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CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY SPECIAL MEETING
MINUTES
November 19 2009
CALL TO ORDER - 5:00 P.M.
Chairman Buckley called the Special Meeting of the Lake Elsinore
Redevelopment Agency held on Tuesday, November 19� 2009 to order at
5:10 p.m. in the Cultural Center, located at 183 N. Main Street, Lake
Elsinore, CA 92530.
ROLL CALL.
PRESENT: Chairman Buckley, Vice Chair Bhutta, Agency member Magee
(5:37), Agency member Melendez.
ABSENT: Agency member Hickman.
Also present: Executive Director Brady, Agency Counsel Leibold, and Agency
Secretary Thomsen.
Staff members present included Acting Community Development Director
Weiner, Public Works Director / City Engineer Seumalo, Director of Lake and
Aquatics and Interim Parks and Recreation Director Kilroy, Treasurer Baldwin
and Police Chief Cleary.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
The Pledge of Allegiance was led by the City Treasurer Baldwin.
PUBLIC COMMENTS
None.
DISCUSSION ITEM
Chairman Buckley gave an overview for the purpose of the Special Meeting
noting multiple proposals had been received by the Agency regarding projects in
relation to affordable housing. Chairman Buckley noted each proposal was
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unique in its own right; the purpose of the meeting was for each business to give
the Agency an overview of their proposal and receive direction, which would
assist them in being able to further their planning process.
It was noted 5 proposals were received from 4 affordable housing corporations:
1) Bridge Housing Corporation (The Avenues & Harbor Grand)
2) Veloce Partners
3) Central Valley Coalition
4) Fast Building Systems, LLC
Chairman Buckley determined each company would present their proposal(s) to
the Agency in the order they were listed on the Agenda.
1. RDA AFFORDABLE HOUSING SITE LOCATIONS
The Avenues: (NOW KNOWN AS THE AYERS)
Bridge Housing
A general overview was given of the project. It was stated the proposed
locations site was on 6.7 acres of vacant land on Lake Shore Drive. The site is
currently zoned as General Commercial, (C-2). It noted in the future, for this plan
to move forward, it would be necessary for a Zone Change and General Plan
Amendment for a change from Commercial to Residential.
The property they had chosen for this project would have to be purchased and
estimated the price to be $4,000,000. Their proposal included two separate
types of housing units, a 40 unit Senior Center in addition to an 85 unit of family
residences. The total of affordable units would be 125 in total.
Possible funding sources were discussed including HUD 202 funds,
Redevelopment Agency (RDA) subsidy in addition to Tax Credit programs with
different percentages depending upon the units. The analysis of scoring via tax
credits was discussed. It was noted this property was competitive because of the
location, it was in close proximity to accommodations, such as grocery stores,
which was a tax-credit plus.
The housing market is determined by the entities surrounding the location and
noted rehabilitation opportunities in the area were also available. He noted the
market is currently flexible, and entrepreneur for both mix-family and senior
dwelling locations. It was further noted this location was scored as "IE" which is
considered a competitive region.
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At this point, the negative possibilities of the location, funding, and project were
addressed by Bridge Housing Corporation:
It was noted the land was currently zoned for Commercial, and the challenge was
convincing the land owner to sell for Residential use instead of Commercial. The
influx of residential use of the property was brought forward, since this property
was at the end of the "Lake Elsinore Auto Retail Row." In addition, the impact of
the percentage of the tax-credit was addressed, Commercial vs. Residential.
The Redevelopment Agency then brought the discussion to the Dias.
Agency Member Melendez noted she was not inclined to consider a zone
change, noting Commercial zoning is just as valuable as Residential. She noted
however important Commercial zoning is, residential is just as valuable,
especially for Senior Citizens.
Vice Chair Bhutta agreed, stating she was not inclined to agree with the specific
location.
Chairman Buckley addressed the proposed Master Plan stating downtown Lake
Elsinore on Main Street would be competitive.
Agency Counsel Leibold stating in the first meeting in December, Senior Housing
funds must equal available fund, noting Lake Elsinore does not have that many
Senior developments.
Bridge stated the smaller the units were the better; they were for qualifying for
HUD 202 funds.
Harbor Grand
Bridge Housing
A general overview of the project was given. It was noted the project consisted
of an existing apartment complex located at 15120 Grand Avenue consisting of
192 apartment units near Riverside Drive. The complex was built in 1986 and
remains in good condition. Originally the asking price was over $18 million and
Bridge Housing Corporation is considered the site. Currently, the property has
gone into foreclosure and is for sale at $65,000. per unit. Currently the site is
zoned as is High Density Resolution (R-3) and has a General Plan designation of
Medium High Density (MHD).
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Due to the drop in economy and property sales, the current selling price is
$12.5 million, which is below the replacement cost of refurbishing the property. If
purchased, then a formal income qualification process can begin for all existing
and future residents. A qualification process to determine rent qualifications can
then begin establishing income qualifications of the affordable rental rates.
Bridge has determined they will not ask current residents to move, however,
when they do, the units will be rented to an income qualified tenant.
The Redevelopment Agency then brought the discussion to the Dias.
Discussion was held and questions were asked regarding the cost to rehabilitate
the units. It was noted the improvements would be made as tenants moved out.
The estimated cost per unit is $10,000. and it was noted with rent being low and
kept stable, there would be little turnover, renters would want to stay. Bridge
stated they did not want to force tenants out, nor did they want to be responsible
for relocation costs. It was noted rent may increase for some after their current
lease expired, it would be a case-by-case basis.
Questions were asked about the housing credit. Agency Counsel Leibold stated
the apartments were within the boundaries of the low income project area and
the majority of the cash flow would be returned to the Agency. It was also
discussed the situation depended upon many factors such as do you relocate
tenants or allow attrition and what do the existing tenants qualify for. It is almost
impossible to give a definite answer with so many variables.
Agency Member Magee noted this complex has many problems including crime.
He suggested rather than subsidize $46,000. to rehabilitate each unit, it would
be better to tear them down and start over.
Lakeview Apartments
Velcoe Partners noted the property is two separate parcels, each owned by a
limited partnership. The existing financing is expiring making acquisition
attractive. Several Agencies such as USDA, CaIHFA, HUD and others were
interested in the complex continue to qualify as affordable housing. The plan is
to purchase the property and renovate. Bonds could be sold and a 4 percent tax
credit would be received. The units would receive a new kitchen and bathroom,
and the apartment complex would receive complete landscaping. The units are
fully occupied and the rent would be based upon 25 to 30 percent of their
income. The funding options were discussed stating the average cost to upgrade
each unit is expected to exceed $30,000.
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The Redevelopment Agency then brought the discussion to the Dias.
Discussion was held regarding the $30,000. cost per uniY being too high.
Questions were raised about who would manage the complex and the Agency
was informed they would use the existing company. It was noted the complex
receives consistent calls regarding crime and problems. The consensus was
why spend $30,000. per unit to inherit the existing problems.
The Agency discussed the funding, stating it may be possible to barrow for
longer than 50 years. Agency Counsel noted the RDA has terms that are
currently for 40 years. Discussion was held regarding the lending being
unreliable, the rents are restrictive there is not enough cash flow. Agency
Counsel stated only 50 percent can be purchased, HUD phase is for a capital
improvement project area of "A2."
Lakeshore Villaae
The applicant, Central Valley Coalition, is proposing to construct 128 affordable
apartments located on Lakeshore Drive between Viscaya and Machado Streets.
Due to unexpected circumstances, no one was able to attend the meeting.
Finances and costs were not discussed and it was noted there are existing car
theft problems in the area.
Potterv Street Affordable Homes
Fast Building Systems, LLC is proposing to construct approximately 15 to
23 single family dwelling units at Rupard and East Pottery Street. The current
zoning is R-1 for single family residential. It was noted the General Plan
designates the area to be Medium Density (MD).
The applicant spoke stating his plan is to build the houses to be 100 percent
green. The house would have no wood except the doors and cabinet framing.
They would be bug free, fire and bullet roof. The material keeps the interior cool,
there is no need for air conditioning or heating. He noted he has built these
exact houses all over the world and they consistently do not have interior or
exterior problems, including no cracks from earthquakes, they have stood firm.
Currently he can build a house in 30 days. It was noted the sale price of the
homes are dependent upon how many homes are built; therefore they need to be
pre-sold before construction. Factors of the selling price are dependent upon the
existing price of the materials, the price of the property and grading costs.
Average price is $125,000 to $145,000. per home. It was noted the material
used is proprietary.
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The Redevelopment Agency then brought the discussion to the Dias.
Discussion was held regarding the materials and the Agency was informed the
units were not modular or prefabricated, they were built on-site. Agency Counsel
stated the selling price is too high to be considered low income housing, yet
qualify as moderate.
REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY COMMENTSI
The Agency clarified their preferences for the proposed projects:
The Avenues
This project was
zoning.
(NOW KNOWN AS AYERS)
not acceptable to the Agency, due to the location and the
Harbor Grand
The Agency is interested in receiving further details regarding the project.
Lakeview Apartments
This project was not acceptable to the Agency. Although the project qualifies as
low income, it needs new management and the cost of $30,000 to rehabilitate
each unit is too much.
Lakeshore VillaQe
The Agency is interested in receiving further details regarding the project, noting
the location and plans would fit.
Pottery Street Affordable Homes
The Agency is interested in receiving further details regarding the project and
expressed concern regarding the square footage of the houses. In addition, it
was noted the use of proprietary materials may be a future issue.
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ADJOURNMENT
There being no
(RDA) Chairman
at 6:22 p.m.
further business to come before the Redevelopment Agency
Buckley adjourned the Redevelopment Agency Special Meeting
The Lake Elsinore Redevelopment Agency adjourned to the next regular meeting
to be held on Tuesday, November 24, 2009, at 5:00 p.m. to be held in the
Cultural Center located at 183 N. Main Street, Lake Elsinore, CA 92530.
.edevelopment ncy Chairman
City of La Isinore, California
Attest:
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Debora Thomsen, CMC
Redevelopment Agency Secretary
City of Lake Elsinore, California
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