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CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
JOINT CITY COUNCIL / REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
STUDY SESSION - AGENDA REVIEW
MINUTES
October 27`h, 2009
CITY COUNCIL
CALL TO ORDER - 4:00 PM
Mayor Magee called the regular meeting of the Lake Elsinore Joint City Council /
Redevelopment Agency Agenda Review Study Session to order at 4:00 p.m. on
Tuesday, October 27th, 2009 in the Cultural Center, located at 183 N. Main
Street, Lake Elsinore, CA 92530.
PRESENT: Mayor Magee, Mayor Pro Tern Melendez, Councilmember
Bhutta, Councilmember Hickman.
ABSENT: Councilmember Buckley.
Also present: City Manager Brady, City Attorney Leibold, and City Clerk
Thomsen.
Staff members present included Acting Administrative Services Director Riley,
Acting Community Development Director Weiner, Public Works Director / City
Engineer Seumalo, Information / Communications Manager Dennis, Director of
Lake and Aquatics and Interim Parks and Recreation Director Kilroy, Building
and Safety Manager Chipman.
PRESENTATIONS / CEREMONIALS
City Clerk Thomsen notified Mayor Magee Mr. Ron Hewison would be present for
the meeting. Mr. Hewison requested to address the Council for the Study
Session as well.
HOPE Quarterly Update (Helping Our People in Elsinore)
Mr. Hewison stated he had two versions for the meetings; he wanted to give the
Council a detailed version now so they could truly know the needs of HOPE and
tonight at the City Council meeting, he would just give an overview.
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Joint Study Session for Agenda Review
Meeting Minutes of October 27, 2009
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He noted that HOPE was pledging food to distribute. Due to the economic status
today, more people than ever, including families are in need due to loss of
income and homes. Mr. Hewison noted currently HOPE is feeding 1,300 families
and 4,000 people per month. He stated they need volunteers to help distribute
food. He commented that so many people arrive in vehicles safety became a
concern. He thanked the City for safety signs to help provide directions for
drivers. Mr. Hewison stated everyone has been impacted by the decline in the
economy, which has also impacted the amount of donations HOPE is receiving.
Mr. Hewison continued stating they have been able to add a "Fresh Rescue"
program in addition to their "Pantry" and "Commodities" programs. Year by Year
comparisons are given for all programs and for just the "Pantry" program.
Mr. Hewison noted it is time for charities to apply for funding from Cities and
Counties, and he has been diligently involved with the County to apply for any
possible funds. He spoke regarding receiving funding from the cities of Murrieta
and Temecula, noting Community Development Block Grants (CDBG) will soon
be available and asked the Council to consider HOPE when they divide their
funding.
Mr. Hewison stated there are two schedules; 1) Pantry only by quarter (showing
an increase of 46 percent); and 2) All other programs compared by year. He
noted in 2004, HOPE was distributing approximately 40,000 meals a year in
comparison to the 42,000 meals which will be served this month alone. He
further stated historically, the first quarter, (Q1) has been 18 - 23 percent of the
year which equates to approximately 475,000 pantry meals this year.
He noted there are three food programs (Pantry, Commodities, and Fresh
Rescue) which result in helping over 1,350 families which is equivalent to
approximately 4,000 people each month. He further stated those who receive
Pantry items have their income verified, 99 percent of the people are in extremely
low income levels.
Mr. Hewison provided further details of the Pantry Program, stating their new
database enables them to oversee and identify their growth. He commented
HOPE has always been viewed as a "Senior Program" however, with the new
growth during this economic decline; seniors currently are only 20 percent of
those in need. Mr. Hewison noted children make up 50 percent which equates to
approximately 600 children a month. He further noted, if you include their
parents, the percentage is around 60 percent for families with children. He
commented this huge growth in the Pantry Program includes seniors,
grandparents, disabled, single parents and also churches, schools and some
categories of the Department of Public Social Services (DPSS).
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Meeting Minutes of October 27, 2009
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Mr. Hewison stated in 2006, HOPE was able to become the distributor for USDA
commodities in the Valley. He noted in the beginning days, maybe 100 families
needed commodity assistance, now 600 families or approximately 2,500+ people
use this service. Mr. Hewison noted people are currently lining up 8 hours in
advance of distribution, parking is impossible. Mr. Hewison stated satellite sites
are now being utilized, locations are EFA, Vineyard; Gracepoint, yet they are still
not enough. Mr. Hewison commented HOPE is still reviewing how to improve
this need.
Beginning in 2008, HOPE was fortunate to receive Fresh Rescue items which
enable them to supplement pantry meals during the week and to assist an
additional 80 families on Friday and Saturdays. Again, lines began forming hours
ahead causing the distribution point to be moved to Gracepoint and NewSong.
In addition, HOPE is now delivering directly to trailer parks.
Mr. Hewison commented keeping up with the increase is becoming difficult, even
with approximately 50 core volunteers every week, three volunteers are now
stepping up as Executive Directors for Pantry Services; Senior Services and
Administration.
Mr. Hewison noted there is a great need for a larger facility. Accommodation
needs to be at least 2,500 square feet plus a ground floor, a mezzanine as small
as 4,000 square feet up to 7,000 or 8,000 square feet. This facility is needed as
soon as possible. Mr. Hewison stated he has been looking to see how other
pantries around the country had approached their rapid growth and discovered
they used approximately 85 percent from CDBG funds to expand. He noted
Temecula is creating a Community Center which will house the pantry and
SAFE. Mr. Hewison requested Lake Elsinore to consider the possibility of using
the Lake Elsinore Senior Center or Community Center and possibly using CDBG
funds.
Mr. Hewison commented he has initiated brief discussions with Riverside County
which seem positive. Their preference favors a rehabilitated structure rather than
a new building, and may provide CDBG funds in addition to what is already
received.
Mr. Hewison suggested creating an exploratory working group consisting of
HOPE, the City and the County to focus on finding a new location. He hopes
someone will come forward who has this type of knowledge and / or experience,
since he is not familiar with this field.
Handouts for the City Council giving details of the numbers for each program and
annual comparisons was given to the City Clerk for the record.
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Joint Study Session for Agenda Review
Meeting Minutes of October 27, 2009
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PANTRY MEALS DISTRIBUTED
YEAR ON YEAR COMPARISON
2005/06 - 2006/07 - 2007/08 - 2008/09 - 2009/10
2005-06
2006-07
2007-08
2008-09 2009-10
Q1
12216
18180
41904
75132 110052
Q2
13695
22824
61628
88056
Q3
17226
27144
55296
83232
Q4
18684
35460
66653
86281
TOTALS
61821
103608
225481
332701
Mayor Magee asked if Mr. Hewison would consider the Big Lots building since
they are moving from Lakeshore Drive to Mission Trail. He noted this was a
large building which HOPE could grow into, and stated this building is next door
to another County program, for Women, Infants, and Children. Mayor Magee
wanted to know if Mr. Hewison had thought of this building and / or has reached
out to the County or the Economic Development Agency (EDA) for their support.
Mr. Hewison responded stating he has been in touch with the EDA but not in
regards to this particular building. He stated EDA's first response was to ask if
HOPE had been in contact with the City.
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Meeting Minutes of October 27, 2009
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PUBLIC COMMENTS - NOWAGENDIZED ITEMS -1 MINUTE
None.
PUBLIC COMMENTS - AGENDIZED ITEMS - 3 MINUTES
None.
CONSENT CALENDAR
(2) Approval of City Council Minutes NO QUESTIONS / COMMENTS
Recommendation: Approve the following minute(s):
(a) Joint Study Session City Council / Redevelopment Agency from
September 22, 2009.
(3) Warrant List Dated October 15, 2009
Recommendation: Authorize payment of Warrant List dated
October 15, 2009.
Councilmember Bhutta had the following questions:
Expenditure Approval List Temecula Motorcycle Sales & Service
Page 15
Director Riley stated this is for the Police Motorcycles repairs when
needed
Expenditure Approval List Temecula Valley Pipe & Irrigation &
Page 15 Supply
Director Riley responded this was in relation to irrigation needs.
Councilmember Bhutta questioned if there was anyone in town who could
provide this work?
Director Kilroy stated regarding irrigation items, depending upon what was
needed and for which location such as valves impacts where the items are
purchased from. He noted no one in town can provide this service.
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Joint Study Session for Agenda Review
Meeting Minutes of October 27, 2009
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(4)
Director Seumalo responded regarding the motorcycle repair shop, stating
the City's Chief Mechanic shops around for deals and noted the City
receives reduced rates from this shop, but they can check to see if there is
someone local.
Mayor Magee stated the City only has 1 motorcycle shop and noted they
do not provide the type of service the Police motors need.
City Manager noted the City does try to keep all business and sales tax in
town whenever they can.
Investment Report- September 2009 NO QUESTIONS/ COMMENTS
Recommendation:
Receive and file.
(5)
Testing Consultants
Meridian.
Recommendation:
1. Approve Change Order No. 2 in the amount of $28,520.75 for City
and County Soil Engineering and Testing.
2. Approve Change Order No. 1 in the amount of $23,901.25 for KDM
3. Authorize the City Manager to execute the Contract Change
Orders.
Mayor Pro Tern Melendez questioned who identified the work needed.
Director Seumalo responded the City wanted a different earthwork
contractor.
Mayor Magee gave credit to Director Seumalo for finding dirt at a reduced
rate and saving the City money and thanked him for this effort. He stated
however, he noted the job was going into the 55th week. The Mayor
stated landscaping was still needed and asked why straw was acceptable
at the 1-15 and SR 74 interchange. Director Seumalo noted the straw may
have been in part of the erosion prevention.
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Meeting Minutes of October 27, 2009
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(6) Annual Software Maintenance Aoreement Renewal with SunGard Public
Sector
Recommendation: Authorize the City Manager to renew the annual
software maintenance agreement with SunGard Public Sector. This is a
sole source vendor and as long as we use the software we must continue
to use SunGard Public Sector for the maintenance of this software.
Councilmember Bhutta stated we had been using this vendor and
software since 1990 and asked if it was still valid. Manager Dennis stated
it sill worked sufficiently for our needs and to replace it would be costly.
He noted it is not a windows product or a enterprise product.
Councilmember Bhutta noted approximately $750,000 has been spent.
(7) A Resolution Approving the Form of and Authorizing the Execution and
Delivery of a Purchase and Sale Agreement and Related Documents with
Respect to the Sale of the Seller's Proposition 1A Receivable from the
State; and Directing and Authorizing Certain other Actions in Connection
Therewith
Recommendation: Adopt Resolution No. 2009-_ and authorize the
Mayor to execute the Purchase and Sale Agreement along with the
related documents.
City Attorney Leibold gave an overview of the item and the relationship to
Proposition 1A.
Councilmember Hickman requested City Attorney Leibold to give an
overview and to clarify his questions.
City Attorney Leibold noted this is in form of statewide Bond Counsel, the
proposal is to participate in the Bond receipt to mitigate the impact for the
loss of the funds. A portion will be distributed back to those Cities who
participate.
PUBLIC HEARING(S)
None.
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Meeting Minutes of October 27, 2009
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APPEAL(S)
None.
BUSINESS ITEM(S)
(8) Graffiti Action Plan Update
Recommendation: Receive and file
Manager Dennis gave an overview of the progress of implementing the
Graffiti Action Plan and the testing and instillation of the T.A.G.R.S.
software. He gave an update of the graffiti hotline, the WeTip hotline and
future plans to move the cameras to various locations to catch violators
unaware. Manager Dennis noted the best deterrent is the restoration and
the prosecution of the crimes.
Councilmember Hickman requested information regarding who should be
called if they see graffiti in action. Manager Dennis stated the Police has
requested if someone sees a crime in action they want 911 to be called.
He noted during the day to call the Graffiti hotline.
Mayor Pro Tern Melendez asked for information regarding a dedicated line
at the Police Department for graffiti. Manager Dennis noted currently the
WeTip line and program is being looked at.
City Manager Brady stated at the Rio Car Wash taggers were caught by
the Police. Councilmember Hickman stated perhaps Code Enforcement
could have a number during the day; they were probably the best option to
actually catch someone in the act.
(9) Extension of Time for Tentative Tract Map No. 31593
Recommendation: Adopt a Resolution approving the request for an
Extension of Time for Tentative Tract Map No. 31593 for twenty four
(24) months or until November 8, 2009.
Acting Community Development Director Weiner gave an overview of the
request of the Developer Eric Lunde regarding the current Conditions of
Approval (COA) originally established with Tentative Tract Map
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No. 31593. Mr. Lunde is requesting amendments to COA Items No. 5, 6,
and 9. The individual requests were addressed:
Item No. 5
Original COA calls for the Developer to transfer title to the City of a
3.5 acre park and the City is to be free and clear of all financial
encumbrances. In addition, a 1.5 acre park with a Community
Homeowners Association, Community Pool and Clubhouse be available
for the subdivision.
Mr. Lunde would like to dedicate the full 5 acre park to the City (however
the free and clear of all financial encumbrances is not offered) meaning
the City would be responsible for all costs including maintenance. He
does not feel a Homeowners Association, the Clubhouse and a private
park are needed especially due to the economic climate.
Discussion was held by the Council, City Staff and the Developer who
would be responsible for the payment of the dedicated park maintenance.
It was determined the City should not have to fund park maintenance;
therefore the original COA could be kept. Discussion was held regarding
the need for a Homeowners Association, a private park, or Clubhouse.
Item No. 6
Current COA states the Applicant shall submit a preliminary concept plan
of the proposed recreation facilities and amenities for review and approval
and shall post a Performance Bond in the amount of $2 million
guaranteeing the construction of the park as provided until the completion
of the park. Mr. Lunde would like to have the cost reduced due to the
economic climate. He does not like the specific dollar amount which is
currently stated.
Discussion was held by the Council, City Staff and the Developer
regarding the cost of the Performance Bond. It was determined actual
building will not happen until at least 3 years from now, therefore the cost
could remain as it currently states, the price of a Lump-sum Bond not tied
to a specific improvement.
Mayor Magee clarified with staff how the $2 million amount came about.
Mr. Weiner responded.
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Meeting Minutes of October 27, 2009
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Item No. 9
Current COA states the Applicant is responsible to have the Park built and
ready for use when the 15t residence is sold. Mr. Lunde would like to
propose that this number be changed to when the 250 residence is sold,
due to the large amount of up-front money required to be spent.
(10) Resolutions Setting Date of Recall Election. Regulation of Candidate
Recommendation:
1) Choose one of the proposed dates and adopt a Resolution to Order
a date for a Recall Special Municipal Election.
2) Adopt a Resolution to establish Candidate Rules and Regulations
specific only to this Recall Special Municipal Election and
automatically rescind this adopted Resolution once the election has
taken place.
3) Decline to adopt a Resolution to hold a Special Runoff Election if
the election results are tied.
4) Adopt a Resolution requesting the Riverside County Board of
Supervisors to authorize the Registrar of Voter's office to render
services for this Recall Special Municipal Election and automatically
rescind this adopted Resolution once the election has taken place
5) Direct the City Manager which financial funds to use from the Fiscal
Year 2009/10 budget to cover the Recall Special Municipal
Election's expenses. City management recommends transferring
funds from the Unallocated Fund Balance to the General Fund to
cover all costs associated with the Recall Special Municipal
Election.
There was a public speaker who wished to address this item, Ms. Susan
Rebar and asked approval to read a statement into the record. Mayor
Magee granted approval.
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Joint Study Session for Agenda Review
Meeting Minutes of October 27, 2009
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BEGINNING OF STATEMENT READ FOR THE RECORD:
City Clerk
Lake Elsinore, City Council
Meeting October 27, 2009
Letter / submission into the official record regarding John Burkett signature
collector, in the recall against Thomas Buckley.
Dear City Council;
My name is Susan Rebar I am a resident of the City of Lake Elsinore for
more than 21 years. I have seen phenomenal changes in our community.
I moved here in 1988, when the 15 freeway killer was on the loose, there
was a meth lab across the parking lot of the Jr. High, that my son
attended, and the fish kill was front page news.
I am grateful for the amazing changes that have occurred in our city and
the challenges that our leaders have overcome.
Our City is now faced with an economic crisis that is not of our own
making, so the wise use of city resources is an imperative.
This is why I am here today, regarding the recall of Thomas Buckley; the
expenditure of resources to finance the recall is simply a waste of money,
in our already stretched economy. The estimated costs of 30,000 to
50,000 to potentially shorten Mr. Buckley's term by 10 months, is not the
best use of city funds. Mr. Buckley is required to call for a count and vote
for any actions taken by the Redevelopment Committee of which he
chairs. He would have been required to do that for any land purchase. If
the checks and balances are in place then it is easy enough to see that
this recall is unfounded.
I would suggest rather that a full investigation of John Burkett, be
launched to investigate his signature collection practices, prior to calling
for any special election.
I have personal knowledge that Mr. Burkett from his own admission does
not live within the city limits. When Mr. Burkett came to my door to ask,
for my signature, I was more interested in why he was motivated to gather
signatures. As I had not previously met Mr. Burkett, I asked him several
questions, to determine his motivation.
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1. Did he live in the City?
a. Response yes over by the Casino
2. How long had he lived in the City?
a. 18 years
His responses were funny to me I that there are no city residences by the
Casino those homes are Sedco Hills / Wildomar.
I asked several other questions, to which he became impatient and said
that if I didn't want to sign then he had better things to do and he huffed
off.
The reason that I am standing on this issue is simply that this could be an
assault against any City Council Member, and there are no protections
against such harassment. It is really an assault against our city not just
our City Leaders. If Mr. Burkett can do this for some personal motivation,
anyone can do it.
I would suggest that the City Council consider some form of protection
against such actions by placing a stipulation with full disclosure requiring
that all Signature Collectors, be required to show proof of residency at the
onset of a recall or other type of petition consideration within the city limits.
Those limitations are placed on the candidates, why not those who want to
challenge our city and its leaders.
I could easily disqualify Mr. Burkett as a man with motivation other than
the good of our City and its Citizens, but I don't know how many other
residents would be able to do the same based on Mr. Burkett's sales style
and tactics. He was very friendly and jovial until I asked too many
questions, then he was angry and frustrated, a bit intimidating I would say.
I live in an amazing city and often in my travels refer to myself as a
Grandma fro Lake Elsinore' as our city has developed into a beauty
nestled between the mountains, beside a lake with a fare climate.
I don't like to use the word proud much as the implications are strong, and
somewhat boastful, so today I use the word to describe those things I am
proud of: My Husband, My Son, By Grandbaby, My Country and My City.
Let us not be harmed by the interests of an outsider; I respectfully request
that you preserve our beauty, and not let someone take away anymore of
resources or even our staff jobs, by this frivolity.
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Meeting Minutes of October 27, 2009
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Respectfully submitted for the Record,
Susan Rebar, Resident
END OF STATEMENT READ FOR THE RECORD:
Mayor Magee requested City Attorney Leibold to respond to Ms. Rebar
regarding her statement.
City Attorney Leibold stated the course of action taken tonight was neither
in support of the recall nor against it; the City is required to follow the letter
of the law of the California Elections Code. There is no choice in calling
an election, if the City Council does not do this, then the Riverside County
Registrar of Voters must do so within 5 days.
Mayor Magee stated barring another authority who has the power to stop
this, the date must be set. City Attorney Leibold confirmed this.
PUBLIC COMMENTS - NOWAGENDIZED ITEMS - 3 MINUTES
None.
REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
CALL TO ORDER - 4:00 PM
Vice Chair Bhutta opened the Redevelopment Agency portion of the Joint Study
Session at 4:35 p.m.
ROLL CALL
Roll call stood as previously stated for the City Council meeting.
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Meeting Minutes of October 27, 2009
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CONSENT CALENDAR
There was no one who wished to speak regarding a Consent item.
(2) Approval of Redevelopment Agency Minutes
NO QUESTIONS / COMMENTS
Recommendation: Approve the following minute(s):
(a) Joint Study Session City Council / Redevelopment Agency
September 22, 2009
(b) Redevelopment Agency Regular Meeting
October 13, 2009
(3) Warrant List Dated October 15. 2009 NO QUESTIONS / COMMENTS
Recommendation: Authorize payment of Warrant List dated
October 15, 2009.
(4) Investment Report -September 2009 NO QUESTIONS/ COMMENTS
Recommendation: Receive and file.
PUBLIC HEARING(S)
None.
BUSINESS ITEM(S)
None.
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PUBLIC COMMENTS - NON-AGENDIZED ITEMS - 3 MINUTES
None.
CLOSED SESSION
There was no one who wished to speak to a RDA Closed Session item.
Agency Counsel Leibold gave an overview of the Redevelopment Agency Closed
Session item.
RDA CLOSED SESSION
1) CONFERENCE WITH LEGAL COUNSEL--ANTICIPATED LITIGATION
Significant exposure to litigation pursuant to subdivision (b) of Gov't Code
Section 54956.9: 1 potential case
2) CONFERENCE WITH LEGAL COUNSEL --ANTICIPATED LITIGATION
Initiation of litigation pursuant to subdivision (c) of Gov't Code
Section 54956.9: 2 cases
ADJOURNMENT
The Redevelopment Agency completed the business before them at 4:36 p.m.
and adjourned the meeting back to the City Council to complete their meeting
and adjourn to the Closed Session meeting scheduled to be held at 5:00 p.m.
CITY COUNCIL CLOSED SESSION
There was no one who wished to speak to a City Council Closed Session item.
City Attorney Leibold gave an overview of the City Council Closed Session item.
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Meeting Minutes of October 27, 2009
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1) CONFERENCE WITH LEGAL COUNSEL-EXISTING LITIGATION
(Subdivision (a) of Gov't Code § 54956.9) Voters Against Lake Street
Market vs. City of Lake Elsinore (Riverside Superior Court Case
No.RIC528604)
ADJOURNMENT
The City Council and the Redevelopment Agency completed the business before
them at 4:37 p.m. and both adjourned to the Closed Session meeting scheduled
to be held at 5:00 p.m.
The Lake Elsinore Redevelopment Agency and the City Council will adjourn to a
regular meeting to be held on Tuesday, November 10, 2009, at 5:00 p.m. in the
Cult ter located at 183 N. Main Street, Lake Elsinore, CA 92530.
Robert E. Mage
City of Lake Elsi
Amy-fffiutta, RD Vice Chair
City of Lake Elsinore, California
Debora Thomsen, CMC
City Clerk / Redevelopment Agency Secretary
Lake Elsinore, California
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