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CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
JOINT CITY COUNCIL / REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
STUDY SESSION - AGENDA REVIEW
MINUTES
October 13`h, 2009
CITY COUNCIL
CALL TO ORDER - 4:00 PM
Mayor Magee called the regular meeting of the Lake Elsinore Joint City Council /
Redevelopment Agency Agenda Review Study Session to order at 4:00 p.m. on
Tuesday, October 13th, 2009 in the Cultural Center, located at 183 N. Main
Street, Lake Elsinore, CA 92530.
PRESENT: Mayor Magee, Mayor Pro Tern Melendez, Councilmember
Bhutta, Councilmember Hickman.
ABSENT: Councilmember Buckley.
City Clerk Thomsen stated Councilmember Buckley could not attend this
evening's meeting do to a prior commitment to the Northwest Mosquito and
Vector Control District. Councilmember Buckley is the City's representative on
the District's board.
Also present: City Manager Brady, City Attorney Leibold, and City Clerk
Thomsen.
Staff members present included Acting Administrative Services Director Riley,
Acting Community Development Director Weiner, Public Works Director / City
Engineer Seumalo, Information / Communications Manager Dennis, Director of
Lake and Aquatics and Interim Parks and Recreation Director Kilroy, Building
and Safety Manager Chipman.
PRESENTATIONS / CEREMONIALS
City Clerk Thomsen notified Mayor Magee who would be present for each
Presentation:
Business of the Quarter - Tulips, Trophies & Treasures
Kimberly and Harvey Ryan, owners would accept the award.
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Recognize Police Deputy Richard Vrvheid for rescuing a suicidal victim
Police Chief Cleary and Mayor Magee would honor Deputy Vryheid for his heroic
actions.
EVMWD presentation - Lakeshore Trunk Line Project
Mr. Greg Morrison would be present to give the presentations.
Welcome Home Troops
Ms. Susan Rebar, Director of Welcome Home Troops would be present and give
a presentation.
Mayor Magee noted he would announce the EVMWD presentations last, since it
would probably be longer than the others.
PUBLIC COMMENTS - NOWAGENDIZED ITEMS -1 MINUTE
(Please read & complete a Speaker's Form at the podium, prior to the start of the
City Council Meeting)
PUBLIC COMMENTS - AGENDIZED ITEMS - 3 MINUTES
(Please read & complete a Speaker's Form at the podium, prior to the start of the
City Council Meeting. The Mayor will call on you to speak, when your item is
called)
CONSENT CALENDAR
(All matters on the Consent Calendar are approved on one motion, unless a
Councilmember or any member of the public requests separate action on a
specific item)
(2) Approval of City Council Minutes NO COMMENTS / QUESTIONS
Recommendation: Approve the following minute(s):
(a) Regular City Council Meeting Minutes from September 22, 2009.
(3) Warrant List Dated September 30. 2009
Recommendation: Authorize payment of Warrant List dated
September 30, 2009.
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Councilmember Hickman questioned the following items:
Warrant No. 100942 Fulbright & Jaworski, LLP
Acting Administrative Services Director Riley responded, stating these
were our Bond Counsel who had worked on a project the developer had
paid for.
Warrant No. 100944 - 100946 Harris & Associates
Councilmember Hickman questioned if $45,000. was paid for plan check
items when the City is so slow. Acting Administrative Services Director
Riley responded stating Harris & Associates were paid the funds from an
account the developer had set up for them to do specific work for them.
Councilmember Hickman noted we have a vendor listed, Hi-Way Safety;
and questioned if we order our signs from them, such as Neighbor Watch
and what would be the cost. Public Works Manager Bill Payne responded
from the audience stating he would verify and get back to Councilmember
Hickman.
(4) Claims Against the Citv
Recommendation: Reject the claims listed above and direct the City
Clerk's Office to send a letter informing the claimants of the decision.
Councilmember Hickman questioned the damage regarding the claim at
Central Avenue and the 1-15 and off-road work, asking what they hit to ruin
all 4 tires. City Manager Brady responded this was when there was a lip
in the intersection during construction.
(5) Authorization for the City Manager to enter into a Contract with HDR. Inc.
for the Preparation of an Environmental Impact Report for the Central
Recommendation: Authorize the City Manager to enter into a contract
with HDR for an amount estimated at $426-,259 $126,950.
City Clerk Thomsen notified the Council before the meeting began; the
correct dollar amount is $126,950, not $126,250 (due to a typographical
error).
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Acting Community Development Director Weiner gave an overview of this
item.
Questions were then asked by the Council:
Mayor Pro Tern Melendez wanted to know if a Request for Proposal (RFP)
had gone out regarding this project, too which Mr. Weiner responded a
RFP was not done. She verified this work was started and then stopped
and HDR was the original Consultant. She questioned their fees for
services and noted there was not a Not-to-Exceed amount identified;
therefore all costs listed would be an estimate.
Mr. Weiner stated an RFP was not generally done for Developers, but
RFP's are done for CEQA work. He noted an existing qualifications list is
generally used to choose from. Mr. Weiner stated the scope of services
were modified, and stated the contract was set up as the City would have
to approve additional services, therefore the City would be in charge of the
dollar amount.
City Attorney Leibold noted on Page 10 of 11 there were task items listed
which clarified the work to be done.
City Manager Brady stated the developer and the Contractor spoke
together to determine who would be responsible for what and they were in
concurrence including the cost for delivery.
Councilmember Bhutta requested what type of development would be
going into the area and if there was a proposed start date. Mr. Weiner
stated nothing had been specifically identified; there was a tenant,
however it would be commercial-retail. Mr. Weiner stated a start date has
not been revealed.
Councilmember Hickman requested a brief history of the project and
asked who the Developer was.
Mr. Weiner responded, stating the original Developer was Mark Pebbles,
he has been in touch with the person, but could not name the company,
but would get the information.
Mayor Magee noted to the City Manager regarding stockpiling of soil on
the site. Mayor Magee requested if the property owner had been notified.
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City Manager noted the stockpiling had not been permitted and they were
not aware where it was coming from. He also noted he was not aware if
the owner had been notified.
The Mayor also noted he was concerned regarding awarding this contract,
since there were issues that were unresolved, such as illegal dumping, the
square foot the building would be and traffic issues. He noted if these
items were not yet known to us, how could work be authorized and
direction given to the Developer and Contractor.
Mr. Weiner noted he did know the square footage, it is estimated to be
between 90,000 to 130,000 square feet of commercial property.
City Attorney Leibold clarified regarding the cost estimate. In response to
Mayor Pro Tern's previous question, stating we agreed to pay
reimbursable (noting a cost plus would not be allowed such as a 10 to
15 percent fee). A statement would be added to the final form of the
Agreement such as approved by the City's attorney.
(6) Safe Candy Night
Recommendation: Approve street closure on Main Street from Library
Avenue to Peck Street, with traffic detours at Heald Avenue and
Lakeshore Drive on Saturday, October 24, 2009 from 1-9 p.m. for the Safe
Candy Night Event.
Councilmember Hickman questioned why this event was being held
1 week before Halloween and not on Halloween which is on a Saturday.
City Manager Brady responded stating because Halloween fell on a
Saturday, many of the organizations who would normally volunteer their
services had decided to hold their own event. He noted the City simply
could not get the appropriate quantity of help needed to hold the event on
Halloween. He further noted, because of the car show already planned for
the 24th, if the two events were combined, enough volunteers were
available. The City was faced with the choice to either combine the
events or not hold the Safe Candy Night at all.
Mayor Magee questioned if the local businesses had any complaints
regarding the change of date. City Manager Brady responded the
Downtown Business Association (DBA) is the one who had started the
event, but with the City's involvement more volunteers are needed.
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Meeting Minutes of October 13, 2009
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Discussion was held between the Mayor and the City Manager regarding
the DBA and road closures, and City Manager Brady stated he had held
several meetings with the businesses to keep them informed and up to
date.
Councilmember Hickman recommended advertisements including flyers
be given to all of the local elementary schools to notify them early enough
to make their plans.
Director Kilroy stated last year's event held about 3,500 children yet most
of the volunteers did not show up. This year's advertising was the same
as last years.
Mayor Magee recommended the information be given to the Public
Information Officer of the school district to let them handle.
(7)
Recommendation: Approve U.S. Army Corps of Engineers permit and
authorize the City Manager to execute the document.
Director of Lake and Aquatics and Interim Parks and Recreation Director
Kilroy gave a brief overview of this project stating the work was being
completed in phases, noting approval of this item would clear all
environmental hurdles to allow the program to move forward.
Mayor Magee congratulated Director Kilroy for being able to work this
situation out with the other agencies. He felt this type of problem should
have never taken place regarding the boat launch.
(8) Agreement with William J. 'Rusty' Beardsley, RBI Traffic to Provide
General Traffic Engineering Services
Recommendation: Approve the Agreement and direct the Mayor to
execute the documents on behalf of the City.
Public Works Director / City Engineer Seumalo gave an overview of the
item stating a Traffic Engineer was needed, since the previous one just
retired receiving the Golden Handshake. Therefore, we could not hire for
the project directly but could hire a Consultant. He noted currently Plan
Check Services were lower than normal.
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Councilmember Bhutta questioned who was on the selection committee, if
this position was advertised, and how many people did Director Seumalo
make his decision from. Director Seumalo responded he did not
advertise, but had used contacts in this field to determine eligibility of
those available. He stated he had 3 choices to decide between.
Councilmember Hickman question the Consultant cost was $90. per hour
and the position was to be when needed, "on call?" Director Seumalo
confirmed this. Councilmember Hickman questioned if Director Seumalo
was truly happy with this choice. Director Seumalo stated yes, and gave a
brief overview of Mr. Beardsley's history. It was confirmed this item was
not in conjunction with Item No. 9.
(9) Agreement with Bureau Veritas to Provide On-Call Professional
Engineering Services
Recommendation(s):
1. Staff recommends that the City Council approve the Agreement
with Bureau Veritas to provide professional plan check services.
2. Authorize the City Manager to execute the Agreement.
Public Works Director / City Engineer Seumalo gave a brief overview of
the item, noting the City has worked with Bureau Veritas previously and
did not have a problem with their work.
Mayor Pro Tern Melendez confirmed with Director Seumalo the scope of
the Contract. Director Seumalo noted this was a contract renewal and he
was also adding additional services. She questioned why the City was not
being competitive with the Contract, noted their fee schedule was higher
than the City's fee schedule and questioned if the City would be paying
the difference. Director Seumalo stated Bureau Verias's fees were in
accordance with the industry.
Acting Administrative Services Director Riley responded we charge what
the Contractor charges, and confirmed he needed to re-evaluate. City
Manager recommended the fee schedule should probably be revised.
Director Riley noted on the fee schedule, it states it is a recommended
deposit amount, which allows us to have the flexibility to charge what the
contractor charges.
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Mayor Pro Tern Melendez noted our website does not state the fee is an
estimate charge; she did not want to award this contract and would be
pulling the item at the Council meeting.
City Attorney Leibold stated this was the same approach, if the item is
approved, the fee issues could be resolved with final verbiage approved
by the City Attorney.
Councilmember Hickman questioned what our City's fees were in
comparison to other local cities, to which Director Seumalo noted Lake
Elsinore is lower than our surrounding neighbors.
(10) Proposed Road Closures for the Lake Elsinore Grand Prix
Recommendation: Approve the street closures as listed in the discussion
section of this report.
Mayor Pro Tern Melendez questioned if resolution on how the funding
would be spent. City Attorney Leibold stated the Agreement is now being
given to the Storm for signature.
Councilmember Bhutta asked if the property owners have received
notification yet and what type of community outreach was scheduled.
Mr. Dave Oster from Storm Entertainment stated a letter had gone out to
the property owners and to his knowledge, there is only one issue
regarding insurance liability which would be handled tomorrow.
Councilmember Hickman verified if the coverage was over the $300,000
requirement, to which Mr. Riley stated it was not.
(11) Rosetta Canyon Fire Station and Park Project Contract - Change
Order No. 4
Recommendation(s):
1. Approve project Change Order No. 4.
2. Authorize the City Manager to execute the Contract Change Order.
Mayor Pro Tern Melendez questioned why there have been so many
Change Orders regarding this project, and if any of the changes had lower
the costs.
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Director Seumalo noted the changes are because of the changes in the
park. First ball fields were not part of the park, then there was, then other
items, such as improvements regarding valves, etc. He stated none of the
changes have lowered the price.
Councilmember Hickman noted Tuscany Hill's Homeowners Association
dues would be raised to $109.00 monthly and recommended a revaluation
should be done to ensure since the price of water was not out of the
original estimate. Director Seumalo stated he would look into this.
(12) Rosetta Canyon Fire Station and Park- Grant of Easements to EVMWD
Recommendation: Authorize the Mayor to execute the Easement with
EVMWD for Rosetta Canyon Fire Station and Park.
Mayor Pro Tern Melendez questioned when EVMWD needed an
easement, and would there be anything written regarding how and where
and what the result of the work would look like. She noted if the water
company was responsible to pay to access their equipment.
Director Seumalo explained "private rights" and who would be responsible
for what. He noted the City holds the private rights, since it is our park.
Councilmember Hickman questioned
worked out with the electric, gas an(
Seumalo responded positively.
if all of the valves and meters were
Water Company, to which Director
Mayor Pro Tern Melendez asked if this property could be used for a dog
run since it is not large enough for a dog park. She noted if they were not
granted the easement, how could they reach their equipment. She noted
her purpose is to see if they were willing to negotiate for a dog area.
Director Seumalo stated they were asking us for access to their
equipment, and were taking the route we asked them to.
City Attorney Leibold stated the terms of the easement would not allow
them to build or have any other structures. The scope of the easement
only allows for them to access their equipment.
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City Manager Brady stated they could be approached if that is the
direction the Council gives. Director Seumalo stated the City needed a
valve from EVMWD and the City has a good working relationship.
Mayor Magee asked how soon the easement is needed. Director
Seumalo stated since the park is just being built they probably did not
have a time rush for the easement, but needed it in place in the event
something happens.
Mayor Magee requested for the City to see if the water company is
agreeable to consider some type of negotiation to see if they were
agreeable to work with us.
Discussion was then held regarding pulling the item until the water
company could be approached.
PUBLIC HEARING(S)
None.
APPEAL(S)
None.
BUSINESS ITEM(S)
(13) Proposed Installation of Stop Signs at the Intersection of La Strada and
Summerhill Drive
Recommendation: Reject the installation of stop signs at the intersection
of La Strada and Summerhill Drive based on the results of the warrant
study.
Mayor Magee noted he had received information there would be parents
at the City Council meeting tonight to address this item.
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Councilmember Hickman stated he did not want to wait until something
happens for a stop sign.
Councilmember Bhutta concurred with Councilmember Hickman.
Councilmember Hickman noted the traffic may not warren a stop sign, but
stated the danger qualified it.
City Manager Brady noted there are several alternatives that could be
evaluated regarding options, and Council could pull the item tonight and
then continue it.
Mayor Magee noted this item was a Business Item, and up for discussion.
If the public wanted to address this item tonight, they would be allowed to;
the Council would hear them and then determine how to handle.
City Attorney Leibold stated the recommendation is to receive the
information of the study. She recommended the Council could file the
study and continue the item and give direction for further research.
(14) An Ordinance of the City Council of the City of Lake Elsinore. California.
Regarding Regulations of Grading and Hauling
Recommendation: Waive further reading and introduce an Ordinance
amending Chapter 15.72 to the Lake Elsinore Municipal Code (LEMC)
regarding grading and hauling.
Mayor Pro Tern Melendez stated she reviewed the Grading Ordinance,
and asked when the last time the City requested a Hauling Bond from a
Developer. She stated the Ordinance needed to be strengthened.
Director Seumalo stated it may be Spyglass Hill but couldn't state
positively.
City Manager Brady noted the Municipal Code would be revised tonight
with the passing of the proposed Ordinance.
Further discussion was held regarding what other cities are doing, the
scope and purpose of the Grading Bond, damage to public property, and
fees or cash received.
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Mayor Pro Tern Melendez stated she would like to direct staff to
reevaluate a Grading Ordinance.
Councilmember Hickman questioned how much dirt is being moved down
Summerhill Drive, the road has been ruined.
Mayor Magee referred to Page 2 regarding the inspection of truck hauling
trucks, which is a California Highway Patrol (CHP) item.
Page 2 of 6 states Cubic Feet; it was confirmed it should be Cubic Yards.
Also, the verbiage states Building Official and should be changed to City
Engineer.
(15) Urgency Ordinance of the City Council of the City of Lake Elsinore.
California. amending and restating Section 8.40.040 SubpartC of the
Lake Elsinore Municipal Code regarding dogs on leash in City Parks
Recommendation: Approve by a four-fifths vote the attached Ordinance
No. amending and restating Section 8.40.040 Subpart C of the
Lake Elsinore Municipal Code regarding dogs on leash in City Parks.
City Attorney Leibold stated the Urgency Ordinance allows an exception to
off leash areas to be designated by the Council. It is not site specific.
Mayor Magee noted with the absence of Councilmember Buckley he
noted all present Council members would have to vote in favor of this
Ordinance. Mayor Magee stated he would prefer this item be continued
since the Council was not in Agreement with the proposed dog Park.
City Attorney Leibold stated all present Council members did state they
were in favor of a dog park, just not the McVicker Park location. She
noted this Ordinance allowed for a dog park and the current trial location.
She noted if this Ordinance was continued, by the time another Ordinance
was put in place, the trial period would be over.
Mayor Pro Tem Melendez requested to wait until the City Council meeting
to consider any change.
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(16) Recall Petition Certificate of Registrar of Voters
Recommendation: No City Council action is required at this time.
City Clerk Thomsen stated the Riverside County Registrar of Voters
(ROV) did certify the Recall Petition of Councilmember Buckley and a
copy of the Certificate is included in their Agenda Packet.
Mayor Magee noted since this was a "receive and file" item, he would call
City Clerk Thomsen forward to give an overview of the item tonight and
answer any questions.
Councilmember Hickman asked why this was a "receive and file" item, and
asked if an election date could be established tonight.
City Attorney Leibold stated proper protocol and procedures were being
followed by this action of presenting the Certificate tonight.
City Clerk Thomsen referred to the Secretary of State Recall Procedures
and the State of California Election Code, noting the first point is to
present the Certificate to the Council, then the next section of the Election
Code states the Council has up to 14 days to call an election, and, if not
done, then the ROV can call an election. Clerk Thomsen stated she is
following the written protocol and procedures.
Mayor Pro Tem Melendez discussed if the Council has 14 days to call an
election, she asked why they were not given all of the options to do so
tonight.
Mayor Magee confirmed with the Clerk if it was her intent to place another
item on the next Council meeting Agenda which would outline all options
and dates.
City Clerk Thomsen confirmed that was her intent and would prepare and
provide all of the necessary information for the next City Council meeting
and was verbally prepared to answer all questions tonight.
PUBLIC COMMENTS - NON-AGENDIZED ITEMS - 3 MINUTES
None.
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REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
CALL TO ORDER - 4:00 PM
Vice Chair Bhutta opened the Redevelopment Agency portion of the Joint Study
Session at 5:10 p.m.
ROLL CALL
Roll call stood as previously stated for the City Council meeting.
CLOSED SESSION
Agency Counsel Leibold gave an overview of the Redevelopment Agency Closed
Session item.
RDA CLOSED SESSION
1) CONFERENCE WITH LEGAL COUNSEL ANTICIPATED LITIGATION
Initiation of litigation pursuant to subdivision (c) of Gov't Code
Section 54956.9: 2 cases
CONSENT CALENDAR
There was no one who wished to speak regarding a Consent item.
(2) Approval of Redevelopment Agency Minutes
Recommendation: Approve the following minute(s):
(a) Redevelopment Agency Regular Meeting
September 22, 2009.
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(3) Warrant List Dated September 30, 2009
Recommendation: Authorize
September 30, 2009.
payment of Warrant List dated
PUBLIC HEARING(S)
None.
BUSINESS ITEM(S)
None.
PUBLIC COMMENTS - NON-AGENDIZED ITEMS - 3 MINUTES
None.
ADJOURNMENT
The Redevelopment Agency completed the business before them at 5:11 p.m.
and adjourned the meeting back to the City Council to complete their meeting
and adjourn to the Closed Session meeting scheduled to be held at 5:00 p.m.
CITY COUNCIL CLOSED SESSION
City Attorney Leibold gave an overview of the items for the City Council Closed
Session items.
1) CONFERENCE WITH LEGAL COUNSEL-EXISTING LITIGATION
(Subdivision (a) of Gov't Code § 54956.9) Voters Against Lake Street
Market vs City of Lake Elsinore (Riverside Superior Court Case
No. RIC528604)
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2) CONFERENCE WITH LEGAL COUNSEL--ANTICIPATED LITIGATION
Significant exposure to litigation pursuant to subdivision (b) of Gov't Code
Section 54956.9: 1 potential case
ADJOURNMENT
The City Council and the Redevelopment Agency completed the business before
them at 5:11 p.m. and both adjourned to the Closed Session meeting scheduled
to be held at 5:00 p.m.
The Lake Elsinore Redevelopment Agency and the City Council will adjourn to a
regular meeting to be held on Tuesday, October 27, 2009, at 5:00 p.m. to be held
in the Cultural Center located at 183 N. Main Street, Lake Elsinore, CA 92530.
Robert E. Magee,
City of Lake Elsini
Amy Bhutta; RDA Vice Chair
City of Lake Elsinore, California
Attest:
Debora Thomsen, CMC
City Clerk / Redevelopment Agency Secretary
City of Lake Elsinore, California
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