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SPECIAL CITY COUNCIL MEETING
C1TY OF LAKE ELSINORE
130 SOUTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA
TUESDAY, JANUARY 6,199S
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The Special City Council Meeting was called to order by Mayor Pape at 2:09 p.m.
ROOM "A to
PRESENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: ALONGI, BRINLEY, METZE, PAPE
ABSENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: KELLEY (Mayor Pro Tem Kelley arrived
at 2:20 p.m.)
Also present were: City Manager Watenpaugh, City Attorney Harper, Administrative Services
Director Boone, Financial Advisors Rod Gunn and Don Hunt, and City Clerk Kasad.
CLOSED SESSION
a. Anticipated Litigation - 1 case.
THE SPECIAL CITY COUNCIL MEETING WAS ADJOURNED TO CLOSED
SESSION FOR THE ABOVE MENTIONED CASE AT 2:10 P.M.
MAYOR PRO TEM KELLEY ARRIVED AT 2:20 P.M.
THE SPECIAL CITY COUNCIL MEETING RECONVENED AT 3:10 P.M. WITH THE
FOLLOWING ACTION:
DIRECTED STAFF TO CONTINUE NEGOTIATIONS WITH REGARD TO THE
ANTICIPATED LITIGATION.
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THE SPECIAL CITY COUNCIL MEETING WAS
AT'1'LST:
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OF LAKE ELSINORE
MINUTES
JOINT STUDY SESSION
LAKE ELSINORE CITY COUNCIL/
LAKE ELSINORE PLANNING COMMISSION
'130 SOUTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA
TUESDAY, JANUARY 6, 1998
Mayor Pape called the Joint Study Session to order at 3:15 p.m.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: COUNCILMEMBERS:
ABSENT: COUNCILMEMBERS:
PRESENT: BOARDMEMBERS:
ABSENT: BOARDMEMBERS:
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None requested.
DISCUSSION ITEMS
1. La Laguna Specific Plan (F: 150.2)
ALONGI, BRINLEY,
KELLEY, METZE, PAPE
NONE
BARNES, SANDS,
SCHIFFNER, WILSEY
MATTHIES
City Manager Watenpaugh noted that there is nothing wrong with this
project, however this meeting was called because there are new members on
the Planning Commission and City Council who have not had a previous
opportunity see to the plan. He noted that La Laguna is a rather large
Specific Plan which is a part of Community Facilities District 88 -3, and is
489 acres consisting of hilly terrain. He further noted that McVicker Canyon
and Rice Canyon will be preserved in this plan as natural enhanced open
space. He explained that this Specific Plan represents 660 units and
represents 480 Single Family- detached homes on 164 acres and 180 Single
Family- attached on 25.5 acres He stated that this project will represent 211
acres of natural open -space and 71 acres of enhanced open- space. City
Manager Watenpaugh explained that it is located right behind McVicker
Park. He gave an overview of the location.
Senior Planner Morita gave an overview of the history of the project and
explained that this project is a little different than most Specific Plans, since
the Development Agreement done in the early 90's entitled the project. He
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noted that the reason this project was scheduled for today's Study Session
was to discuss some of the design issues and design features. He further
noted that this is a residential project and has no commercial development.
Senior Planner Morita noted the location of the project on a map, and
explained that one of the reasons that the project has taken so long is because
of the different issues that have arisen as the plan progressed, which staff is
trying to help resolve. He noted that there will be no apartments in the plan.
Chris Weber, Hunsaker and Associates, explained that they were the Civil
Engineering firm that worked on the Specific Plan. He made note of the land
use plan and addressed the design of the project in which they tried to be
sensitive to the natural features of the site. He gave an overview of the design
of the project and made note of the different planning areas within the site.
Councilwoman Brinley asked how many homes will there be at build -out.
Mr. Weber noted the areas on the Map that Councilwoman Brinley cited and
stated that it would be 480 homes. He explained that they do not have a
product at this time, however the Specific Plan calls for a home of no less
than 1,400 square feet, as well as a provision that 20% of the homes must be
15 % greater than the minimum 1,400.
George Dale, owner, explained that he is just one of many owners of this
project and he felt this was a fairly straight forward project. He noted that it
has been in the works for the last 12 years, and gave an overview of the
history of the project, of the development of the Community Facilities District
and the role that Centex played in this effort. He made note of the problems
they have had with Fish and Wildlife and the amount of time it has cost their
project; as well as the problems that Brighton Homes' actions caused for
other developers. There was general discussion of Brighton Homes and the
failure of their project. Mr. Dale explained that his group is looking to gain
entitlement for their project and they can proceed.
Councilman Alongi questioned the phases of the proposed project and asked
what the net acreage of each phase would be, to give Council an idea of how
many houses per net acre there will be. `Mr. Dale stated that he did not have
that information. Councilman Alongi.ciarified the area dedicated for
condominiums and asked how many net acres are going to be used for this
site, since that will decide the density. Mr. Dale stated that a portion of that
area is going to be dedicatedto landscaping and with exception of the slope
landscaping it will be net acreage. He explained that net does not reflect
streets and sidewalks, manufactured slopes etc., however the pad sizes as
designed are minimum 6,000 square foot pads, however there will be others
that will be larger. There was general discussion in regard to the site.
Chairman Wilsey noted his concerns inregard to design review are the
primary theme of the project; circulation of the trail systems that will have to
be addressed through that area'. the detail of the attached housing; and
spelling out who is responsible for what and when. He noted that several
projects from the past have come back to haunt the City in regard to the
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trails, parks etc. He noted the confusion that has been experienced and
suggested that particular attention should be given to this area to clarify the
different areas and responsibilities. There was general discussion in regard to
detail.
Councilwoman Brinley asked if Mr. Dale has met with the County Trail
people. Mr. Dale stated that he has not, however he will be meeting with
them in the future. Senior Planner Morita gave an overview of the meetings
to date and indicated that the Trails meeting will be latter in the project.
Councilwoman Brinley stated that there has been problems causing this to be
in the works for the last 12 years.
Councilwoman Kelley questioned the guarded gate and questioned the
purpose. Mr. Webber stated that there was some interest from people who
wanted to do a gated community and they tried to address that in the Specific
Plan and it is an option but not a fixed situation. He stated that is why they
showed it on the Specific Plan and other entrance would be a card- reader
gate. He explained that if the area were gated it would be private maintained
streets done by a Home Owners Association.
Councilman Alongi inquired if there was a park in the project. Mr. Webber
explained that it would have a pocket park for the residents, which is more in
line with a private park. Councilman Alongi stated that his concern is the
funding to maintain even a small park. Mr. Webber stated that it would be
maintained by the Home Owners Association.
Councilman Metze questioned the placement of the attached Single - Family
units in conjunction with the Single- Family detached. Mr. Webber explained
the elevation of the property and the placement of the project. Councilman
Metze stated that he would like to see Planning Commission add a condition
to all of their Specific Plans and Tracts to read that the Codes and Ordinances
that exist at the time of development, will be the ones followed and not the
Codes and Ordinances that are in effect at the time the Specific Plan is
approved. He explained that he has found that the codes at the time the
Specific Plan is approved by the time the project goes forward it could be five
years or more and the Codes and Ordinances have been changed, in the
meantime for improvements.
City Attorney Leibold stated that it depends on what the Development
Agreement states. She explained that the Development Agreement is a
vesting document and it vests the right to develop the property based on the
rules as the existed the date of the agreement, unless the agreement
specifically says "any new ordinances subsequently adopted with respect to
fees or development standards will apply ".
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Mr. Webber read the section of the Specific Plan for La Laguna which .
addressed exceptions to note how this addresses the changes in the rules as
the City changes.
City Attorney Leibold addressed the rules of the Specific Plan and how it
applies to the City.
There was general discussion in regard to Development- Standards and how
much they can change between the Specific Plan and development of the site.
Councilman Alongi stated that it is not at the Specific Plan level, but rather at
the Development Agreement level that the type of requirements for the
project are called out. Chairman Wilsey stated that the Development
Agreement only gives vesting rights to develop the property, however the
Specific Plan sets the standards.
City Manager Watenpaugh stated that the Development Agreement specifies
certain specifications for different items. There was general discussion in
regard to standards and when the standards are placed on the project.
Chairman Wilsey stated that the object of this discussion is to give direction
to staff and the developer for the type of standards, product and density that
the Commission and Council would like to see.
Senior Planner Morita stated that a development agreement is a binding
contract between the developer and the City, and explained that the Specific
Plan Document is the next step that provides information and detail regarding
future design, however zoning codes are not addressed in this document and
the Zoning Code is addressed at the time of construction.
Chairman Wilsey stated that is why the Planning Commission and Council
needs to do their homework up front to prevent any problems. He noted that
the Development Agreement should be provided at the time the Planning
Commission and Council look at the Specific Plan to know what the project
needs to have addressed.
Commissioner Schiffner stated that he would like to see sufficient back -up
documents on previous action to better act on current business. He noted that
some of the members of the Planning Commission have not seen some of the
background material.
Commissioner.Sands questioned the upgrades of the zoning for this project.
Senior Planner Morita explained that this was done in the Specific Plan and
addressed the density..: ;
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City Manager Watenpaugh stated that this issue was listed to allow Planning
Commission and City Council to address issues and concerns regarding
General Land Use.
City Attorney Leibold explained the parameters of the topic and what they
could discuss.
Commissioner Schiffner addressed design review for large projects and asked
if Planning Commission and Council should continue to review as has been
done in the past or if it is possible to change this regarding Specific Plans and
turn all of the design review over to staff. He asked Council's opinion.
Councilwoman Brinley stated that she would prefer that the design review
issues be heard by Planning Commission and not staff.
Councilman Alongi stated that he felt that staff was capable of making the
decisions, since the standards have been set and they should not have to go
before the Design Review Committee unless there is a change from the
document.
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THE JOINT STUDY SESSION WAS ADJOURNED AT 4:14 P.M.
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MINUTES
REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
183 NORTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA
TUESDAY, JANUARY 13, 1998
CALL TO ORDER
The Regular City Council Meeting was called to order by Mayor Pape at 7:07
p.m.
The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Councilman Metze.
WLTIMULIM
None.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT COUNCILMEMBERS: ALONGI, BRINLEY,
KELLEY, METZE, PAPE
ABSENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: NONE
Also present were: City Manager Watenpaugh, City Attorney Leibold,
Administrative Services Director Boone, Community Services Director Sapp,
Police Chief Walsh, Fire Chief Seabert, City Engineer O'Connell, Senior
Planner Villa and City Clerk Kasad.
PRESENTATIONS
A. Presentation - Report on Llirraly - Dave Stahovich, LQ=senting Supervisor
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Dave Stahovich, representing Supervisor Buster, advised that he was present
to discuss the progress on the new library facility. He noted that the Board of
Supervisors authorized staff to make an offer for purchase of the Wells Fargo
Bank Building in Lake Elsinore, at there meeting of this date. He explained
that they are now starting the due diligence process, which should take a
couple of weeks, with further information on or about January 26, 1998. He
noted that if the appraisal goes well, it cou'_d close escrow almost
immediately, however if the appraisal is lower there will need to be
negotiation for a lower price. He advised ;hat Supervisor Buster would like
to sit down with Mr. Watenpaugh and Mrs. Kelley to work out the details,
and thanked them for their cooperation on this project. He noted that this was
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a great example of the City and County working together.
Mayor Pro Tem Kelley extended thanks to Supervisor Buster, but announced
the idea was from Mr. Bill Trotter of the Friends of the Library, and
introduced Mr. Trotter.
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Chief Walsh provided a recap on the holiday patrol for the Christmas season
and noted extra patrols in retail areas of town, which started the day after
Thanksgiving and ran through the day after Christmas. He explained that
there were about six extra officers daily, and all holiday shoppers and visitors
to retail centers saw high visibility. He advised that there were no significant
occurrences during the season, and noted that the extra patrols were provided
through a State grant. Mayor Pape commented that this was good news and
offered congratulations to Chief Walsh and the department.
Requests were received to address the following items and deferred to those
discussions:
Item Nos. 7, 8, 31 and 32.
The following items were pulled from the Consent Calendar for further discussion
and consideration:
Item Nos. 5, 6, 7, 8, % 10 and 11.
MOVED BY BRINLEY, SECONDED BY KELLEY AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO APPROVE THE BALANCE OF THE CONSENT
CALENDAR AS PRESENTED.
1. The following Minutes were approved:
a. Special City Council/User Group Meeting - November 17, 1997.
(F:44.4)
b. Special City Council Meeting - November 24, 1997.
C. Regular City Council Meeting - December 9, 1997.
2. Ratified Warrant List for December 30, 1997. (F:12.3)
3. Rejected and referred to Claims Administrator the Claim Against the City
submitted by the County of Riverside (CL #97 -28). (F:52.2)
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Diversified Landscape in the amount of $84,236. (F:95.2)
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City Manager Watenpaugh noted the prior discussions of this item and
explained the requested action for this evening. He explained that it is a
revision of the original plan and detailed the proposed use and location. He
noted that it went back to the Planning Commission and they did not agree
with the proposed findings by staff, so this time the applicant was informed
that they were denying the Zone Change and detailed their discussion. He
recommended that the Council uphold the Planning Commission decision and
further detailed the recommendations.
Mayor Pape opened the public hearing at 7:16 p.m., asking those persons
interested in this item to speak. The following persons spoke:
Dan Kline, representing the property owner, expressed hopes that it was clear
that this proposal was for a rezone from M -1 to C -M zone. He expressed
concern that the recent discussion does not take into account the findings in
November. He explained that after extensive review there were
recommendations to grant the zone change to C -2, but the Board was tied at
2 -2 and it was to be revisited for splitting of the lot and rezoning. He
expressed uncertainty as to how the findings now could be as opposite to
those in November. He indicated that their proposal was consistent with the
General policies and General Plan of the City. He clarified that they are
requesting approval for a restaurant to be allowed with a drive -thru behind it.
He stressed that the drive -thru will not be visible from Collier, as it will be
behind the building. He encouraged the Council to find the zone change to be
consistent, and stressed that this location is a good place for a drive -thru. He
noted comments that a restaurant might become run -down, and encouraged
the Council to visit the existing SS Burger Basket to see the quality
maintained by the owners. He stressed that there are no food establishments
close to the Outlet Center, and suggested the need to keep people in the
Community with their money. He indicated that the Council should uphold
the City's prior promises.
Dan DeSimone, 31985 Machado, spoke in opposition to this proposal. He
indicated that he feels the area needs master planning, and stressed that it is a
window area to Lake Elsinore.
Hearing no additional requests to speak, the public hearing was closed at 7:24
p.m.
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Mayor Pro Tem Kelley concurred with Mr. DeSimone that master planning is
needed and it is a gateway to the City near the Outlet Center. She advised
that she previously supported the project because she feels there is a zoning
problem in that area and it should be addressed prior to development of a
project in the area. She stressed that the General Plan needs to be consistent
with the development. She reiterated that she supported this project the first
time and will do so again. She encouraged consistency with the General Plan
before projects come before the Council
Mayor Pape questioned the current zoning in that area. Senior Planner Villa
advised that it is currently zoned M -1. Mayor Pape inquired whether that
zoning would allow for drive- thrus. Mr. Villa indicated it would not. Mayor
Pape noted that the applicant was aware of that zoning up front.
Councilwoman Brinley noted that the Council was not present for prior
consideration, but her thoughts are that it is not a proper location for a fast
food restaurant. She concurred that a master plan is needed in that area, as
well as more study. She indicated that she would like to address this area and
see it changed to C -M to allow a restaurant, but not a drive -thru. She
clarified that she made no promises to the applicant.
Councilman Alongi indicated that this is an important area, however there is
an applicant who has been here a couple of times and was promised a Study
Session which did not occur. Councilman Alongi indicated that he met with
them and City staff, and at no time was the developer told this project would
not be approved if he did not make those changes. He indicated that he
opposed this project because he did not want to see the zone changes on the
entire site. He noted that the applicant tried to contact him several times, but
stressed that discussion needs to be done at the dias. He suggested that if the
area is developed into an International Center, there will be a lot of people
wanting to eat, and stressed the need for appropriate services if areas are
going to develop. He stressed that this applicant stepped forward and tried to
comply with the requests of the City; and while he doesn't necessarily agree
that is the type of project to go there, it is not fair for the owner to be held up
on building his project. He indicated that this project should go forward and
he would support it, but stressed he would support only a zone change on the
site where the restaurant sits.
Councilman Metze noted the large amount of time spent on this project for
one little fast food development. He addressed the comment regarding
promises being made, and indicated that he doesn't believe staff would make
those promises; and in regard to the findings, staff is saying if the project is
approved these are the recommended findings. He indicated that he has done
a lot of work on this matter, and what concerns him is that up front the
applicant was told about the requirements to be compatible with the General
Plan in that area. He noted the comments at the Planning Commission by the
applicant that he was told he could do the restaurant and bought the property.
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He noted that his understanding was that the applicant had not necessarily
bought the property. He stressed that the Council had not committed to the
project. He reiterated that staff states the applicant was told about the zoning
up front, and noted that the ultimate goal was to have C -M rather than C -2 to
be in line with the existing General Plan.
Mayor Pape noted that this is a situation of person discussing a drive -thru
restaurant, which he was told was not compatible and was advised of the
required steps, but felt he wanted to try anyway. He concurred that there was
no doubt that another restaurant would be nice in that area, but suggested that
a sit -down restaurant is needed. He noted the other fast food restaurants in
the area and stressed that master planning would be appropriate to make this
a nice entry to the Community. He further noted that there is a lot of interest
in this site by other people as well. He stressed that it is appropriate for the
Council to have vision and upscale the types of developments coming to the
Community.
MOVED BY BRINLEY, SECONDED BY PAPE TO UPHOLD THE
RECOMMENDATION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION ON THE
ZONE CHANGE AND COMMERCIAL DESIGN REVIEW; AND UPHOLD
THE ACTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION ON THE
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT REQUEST, BASED ON THE FINDINGS
LISTED BELOW:
Mayor Pro Tem Kelley questioned the need for separate motions. City
Attorney Leibold clarified the need for a separate vote on the Ordinance.
Ms. Leibold indicated that it would be best to have two separate motions in
case the first motion fails.
Councilman Alongi indicated this is a sit -down restaurant and noted that even
sit -down restaurants are putting in drive -up windows. He stressed that the
applicant has done what he was supposed to do. He indicated that people
who have been in the community should receive the same courtesy as is
extended to newcomers are given. He questioned why there are not similar
concerns with other drive -up restaurants. He indicated that this proves that
the Council is not friendly to those who live here and support the community.
Mayor Pape noted that this applicant lives in Fountain Valley; and
commented on prior concerns for safety expressed by Councilman Alongi.
Councilman Alongi noted that the Minutes reflected his concerns for the
safety of a drive up window and knowledge by the applicant of the
requirements by Caltrans.
THE FOREGOING MOTION CARRIED BY A VOTE OF 3 TO 2 WITH
ALONGI AND KELLEY CASTING TH7 DISSENTING VOTE.
MOVED BY BRINLEY, SECONDED BY PAPE TO ADOPT ORDINANCE
NO. 10349 TO REZONE THE ENTIRE PARCEL TO C -M ZONING FOR
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CONSISTENCY WITH THE GENERAL PLAN:
ORDINANCE NO. 1034
AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA, REZONING 3.37 (2.54 NET)
ACRES LOCATED AT THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF THE
INTERSECTION OF RIVERSIDE DRIVE (HWY. 74) AND COLLIER
AVENUE, FROM M-1 (LIMITED MANUFACTURING) TO C -M
(COMMERCIAL MANUFACTURING) ZONING DISTRICT (ZONE
CHANGE NO. 97 -1).
UPON THE FOLLOWING ROLL CALL VOTE:
AYES: COUNCILMEMBERS: BRINLEY, KELLEY,
METZE, PAPE
NOES:
ABSENT:
ABSTAIN:
Fin in
COUNCILMEMBERS:
COUNCILMEMBERS
COUNCILMEMBERS:
ALONGI
NONE
NONE
1. That this proposed use, on its own merits and within the content of its
setting, is not in accordance with the Goals, Objectives and Policies of
the Lake Elsinore General Plan.
2. That the requested use with the drive -thru lane as proposed will be
detrimental to the general health, safety, morals and welfare of the
persons residing in the neighboring area or the City.
22. Tentative Parcel MQ No. 28712, CQuntMidde Mobile Home C
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City Manager Watenpaugh highlighted this request and the location of the
property. He noted the Planning Commission concerns with the conditions
and related revisions recommended and requested.
Mayor Pape opened the public hearing at 7:45 p.m. asking those persons
interested in this item to speak. The following person spoke:
Jim Bolton, 14880 Amorose, representing the applicant, provided background
on the intent of this project. He explained that the property contains mobile
home sales and office building. He further explained that the intent is to
improve the property; but it was necessary to split the property from the
existing office building to allow for financing of this property. He noted the
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conditions discussed at the Planning Commission, and indicated that they
have worked out the wording except for Condition number 35 with regard to
the improvement of the edge of the San Jacinto River. He explained that they
originally requested a waiver of that requirement, but if the waiver is not
granted, they would like to tie the requirement to some future building
permits. He advised that the applicant wants to build a garage structure
which will need a building permit, but he does not believe that is a significant
enough building permit for the work to be tied to. He suggested that if the
property were redeveloped into something different, it might be more
appropriate. He indicated that they would prefer to have the requirement
attached to something that does not impact the current operation.
Hearing no additional requests to speak the Public Hearing was closed at 7:50
p.m.
Mayor Pape noted City Engineer ODonnell's comments at the Planning
Commission meeting regarding the improvement of the channel, and the
discussion of timing the requirement with the building permit. Mr. ODonnell
noted under the ordinance the City has the right to waive the requirements
under the Subdivision Map Act, or it can time the requirement to a building
permit, putting the burden of improvement on the piece of property. He
explained that there are two pieces of property fronting the river and each
would be required to do the improvements at the time of building permits, for
any structure greater than 650 square feet. He reiterated that the Council
does have the option of waiving the requirements, but suggested that if
Condition 35 were changed, there would also need to be a change to
Condition 20, to address bonding for the improvements.
Councilwoman Brinley questioned the ability to tie Conditions 20 and 35 to
building permits. Mr. ODonnell indicated that this would require adding the
verbiage "prior to building permits" to Condition 35 and adding "except for
San Jacinto River Improvements" to Condition 20.
Councilman Metze noted that the staff recommendation is the only way to go
for the requested waiver. Mayor Pape concurred.
MOVED BY BRINLEY, SECONDED BY METZE TO APPROVE
TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP NO. 28712, BASED ON THE
RECOMMENDED FINDINGS, EXHIBIT "A" AND SUBJECT TO THE
CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL, WITH AN AMENDMENT TO
CONDITION 20 TO ADD "EXCEPT THE SAN JACINTO RIVER
IMPROVEMENTS" AND AN AMENDMENT TO CONDITION 35 TO ADD
"AT THE TIME BUILDING PERMITS ARE PULLED ".
Mr. Truax concurred with the recommendation, but stressed that there is a
garage which needs to be built and Could trigger a $500,000 river
improvement requirement. He clarified that he would have no problem if he
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were changing the use to a new shopping center or other use. Councilman
Alongi clarified that a garage would be less than 600 square feet trigger point.
THE FOREGOING MOTION CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE.
1. The proposed subdivision, together with the provisions for its design and
improvement, is consistent with the General Plan. The proposed subdivision
is compatible with the objectives, policies, general land uses and programs
specified in the General Plan (Government Code Section 66473.5).
2. The effects this project is likely to have upon the housing needs of the region,
the public service requirements of its residents and the available fiscal and
environmental resources have been considered and balanced.
3. Subject to the attached conditions of approval, the proposed project is not
anticipated to result in any significant environmental impact.
War, • TI1 1 I a I ' <.i_i_1'
1. Tentative Parcel Map No. 28712 will expire two (2) years from date of
approval unless within that period of time a final map has been filed with the
County Recorder, or an extension of time is granted by the City of Lake
Elsinore City Council in accordance with the Subdivision Map Act.
2. Tentative Tract Map No. 28712 shall comply with the State of California
Subdivision Map Act and shall comply with all applicable requirements of the
Lake Elsinore Municipal Code, Title 16 unless modified by approved
Conditions of Approval.
3. A precise survey with closures for boundaries and all lots shall be provided,
per City Ordinance.
4. Pay all applicable fees including park fees in force at time of issuance of
building permits.
5. Prior to final map approval of Parcel Map No. 28712, the improvements
specified herein and approved by the Planning Commission and the City
Council shall be installed, or agreements for said improvements, shall be
submitted to the City for approval by the City Engineer, and all other stated
conditions shall be complied with. Unless waived by the City Council, all
uncompleted improvements must be bonded for as part of the agreements.
6. All of the improvements shall be designed by developer's Civil Engineer to
the specifications of the City of Lake Elsinore.
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7. Applicant must meet all requirements of Elsinore Valley Municipal Water
District (EVMWD).
8. The applicant shall provide connection to public sewer for each lot within the
subdivision prior to building permit. No service laterals shall cross adjacent
property lines and shall be delineated on engineering sewer plans and profiles
for submittal to the EVMWD.
9. Meet all requirements of Southern California Edison Company.
10. Meet all requirements of Southern California Gas Company.
11. Meet all requirements of General Telephone Company.
12. All Public Works requirements shall be complied with as a condition of
development as specified in the Lake Elsinore Municipal Code (LEMC) prior
to final map approval.
13. Dedicate underground water rights to the City (LEMC 16.52.030).
14. Pay all Capital Improvement and Plan Check fees (LEMC 16.34, Resolution
85 -26).
15. The Parcel Map shall provide an additional 10 ft. dedication on Casino Dr.
along the property frontage. If there is an existing obstruction in the future 10
ft. dedication, then the maximum dedication should be provided for in order
to try to accommodate a 80 ft. curb to curb roadway (40 ft. half section) with
a 5 ft. sidewalk.
16. The applicant shall dedicate the slopes and river bottom along the San Jacinto
River as a drainage easement on the parcel map.
17. Submit a "Will Serve" letter to the City Engineering Department from the
applicable water agency stating that water and sewer arrangements have been
made for this project. Submit this letter prior to final map approval.
18. Construct all public works improvements per approved plans (LEMC
12.04). Plans must be approved and signed by the City Engineer prior to final
map approval (LEMC 16.34).
19. Public improvement plans and specifications shall be prepared by a Civil
Engineer. Improvements shall be designed and constructed to Riverside
County Road Department Standards & Riverside County Flood Control
District Standards, latest edition, and City Codes (LEMC 12.04 and 16.34).
20. Applicant shall enter into an agreement with the City for the construction of
public improvements and shall post the appropriate bonds, except the San
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Jacinto River Improvements.
21. Pay all fees and meet requirements of encroachment permit issued by the
Engineering Department for construction of public works improvements
(LEMC 12.08 and Resolution 83 -78).
22. All compaction reports, grade certifications, monument certifications (with tie
notes delineated on 8 '/2' x 11" Mylar) shall be submitted to the Engineering
Department before final inspection of public works improvements will be
scheduled and approved.
23. Arrangements for relocation of utility company facilities (power poles, vaults,
etc.) out of the roadway shall be the responsibility of the property owner or
his agent.
24. Provide street lighting and show lighting improvements as part of street
improvement plans as required by the City Engineer.
25. Developer shall install blue reflective pavement markers in the street at all fire
hydrant locations.
26. Applicant shall submit a traffic control plan showing all traffic control devices
for the site to be approved prior to final map approval. All traffic control
devices shall be installed prior to final inspection of public improvements.
This includes No Parking and Street Sweeping Signs.
27. All improvement plans and tract maps shall be digitized. Prior to map
recordation, applicant shall submit tapes and/or discs which are compatible
with City's ARC Info /GIS or developer to pay $1,000.00 per sheet for City
digitizing.
28. If grading exceeds 50 cubic yards, grading plans shall be prepared by a Civil
Engineer and approved prior to grading permit issuance. Prior to any
grading, the applicant shall obtain a grading permit and post appropriate
security.
29. Provide soils, geology and seismic report including street design
recommendations. Provide final soils report showing compliance with
recommendations prior to building permit.
30. Individual lot drainage shall be conveyed to a public facility or accepted by
adjacent property owners by a letter of drainage acceptance or conveyed to a
drainage easement.
31. On -site drainage facilities located outside of road right -of -way should be
contained within drainage easements shown on the final map. A note should
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be added to the final map stating: "Drainage easements shall be kept free of
buildings and obstructions ".
32. All natural drainage traversing site shall be conveyed through the site, or shall
be collected and conveyed by a method approved by the City Engineer.
33. Meet all requirements of LEMC 15.64 regarding flood hazard regulations.
34. Meet all requirements of LEMC 15.68 regarding floodplain management.
35. Applicant shall design and construct slope protection along the slopes of the
San Jacinto River in accordance with proper hydraulic & hydrology studies
subject to the approval of the City Engineer, at the time the building permits
are pulled. Applicant shall obtain all environmental permits necessary to do
the construction.
36. Applicant shall record a CC &R which provides for irrevocable reciprocal
parking, circulation and loading in favor of all lots, subject to the approval of
the Director of Community Development.
�ppeal of Planning Commission Decision on a Minor Design Review for 210
Davis Street within Planning Area 6 of the Historic Elsinore District-Q&
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City Manager Watenpaugh highlighted this appeal. Senior Planner Villa
provided a brief summary of what had been discussed to date; and explained
that this is a proposal to add about 1,800 square feet to an existing 1,000
square foot home. He noted that there was concern with floor plan as it did
show a separation between the addition and the existing home and it appeared
to be a duplex. He further noted that there was also concern with the roofing
material, but the applicant has met with staff and agreed to staff
recommendations with regard to floor plan, and has added windows to a side
wall which was of concern to the Planning Commission. He advised that the
applicant has agreed with the materials, the floor plan has been clarified and
the revised plan addresses the concerns.
Councilman Metze questioned if the applicant is aware of what is being
requested on the Davis street side of the property and inquired whether staff
was now comfortable with the project. Mr. Villa confirmed that staff is
satisfied and the Applicant confirmed that he was in concurrence. Mr. Villa
clarified that the revisions to the plans would be approved administratively.
Mr. Metze questioned Mr. Rusher on his concurrence with the changes. Mr.
Rusher confirmed that he has already used the roofing material requested on
the rest of the house. Councilman Alongi questioned why this matter was
being discussed if everything has been resolved. He further questioned the
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anticipated value of the home when the work is complete. Mr. Rusher
indicated that he anticipates about $125,000. Councilman Alongi questioned
the price of existing homes in the area. Mr. Rusher indicated that the prices
range from about $140,000 to $200,000.
MOVED BY BRINLEY, SECONDED BY KELLEY TO OVERTURN THE
PLANNING COMMISSION DECISION AND APPROVE THE MINOR
DESIGN REVIEW FOR 210 DAVIS STREET AS CLARIFIED WITH
STAFF; BASED ON THE FOLLOWING FINDINGS AND SUBJECT TO
THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL.
Councilwoman Brinley requested clarification of her ability to vote on this
item due to the proximity to her home.
City Attorney Leibold noted that Councilwoman Brinley's home is in the
vicinity of this property, exceeding the 300 foot, but not over 1500 feet. She
noted that there would be a prohibition of vote in the case of foreseeable
impact on Mrs. Brinley's property value; and she would be precluded from
voting if it was closer to her home, however that is not the case. Mrs.
Leibold explained that the increase or decrease in the value of her home
would have to be anticipated to be 10% or more to preclude her vote on this
item. She advised that Mrs. Brinley was free to participate in this vote.
THE FOREGOING MOTION CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE.
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1. The project is consistent with the Goals, Objectives and Policies of the
General Plan and Historic Elsinore, Area 6.
2. If the attached conditions are met, the dwelling will meet the Design and
Development Standards of the Historic Elsinore, Area 6.
3. The project complies with the design directives contained in Section
17.82.969 and all other applicable provisions of the Municipal Code.
4. Conditions and safeguards pursuant to Section 17.82.070, including
guarantees and evidence of compliance with the conditions, have been
incorporated into the approval of the subject project to insure development of
the property in accordance with the objectives of this Chapter and the
planning district in which the site is located.
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1. Design Review approval will lapse and be void unless building permits are
issued within one (1) year of the Planning Commission approval date.
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2. Applicant shall meet all Conditions of Approval prior to the issuance of a
Certificate of Occupancy and release of utilities.
3. Structure shall be placed on -site as depicted on the approved plot plan and/or
as modified by the Community Development Director or designee.
4. Building elevations shall be constructed as depicted on plans submitted to the
Planning Department. If additional architectural treatments are proposed (i.e.,
window plant -on treatments, vegetation) they shall be subject to the approval
of the Community Development Director or designee.
5. Applicant is to meet all applicable City Codes and Ordinances.
6. Applicant is to meet all applicable County Fire Department requirements for
fire protection.
7. Applicant shall use roofing materials with a minimum of class "A' fire rating.
If asphalt roofing materials is used on sloped roofs it shall be of the quality of
Presidential Shake three dimensional shingles. Roofing material to be used
shall be subject to the approval of the Community Development Director or
designee, prior to issuance of building permits.
8. The project shall connect to sewer if a sewer line is within 200 feet of the
project boundary unless it is demonstrated to the satisfaction of the Chief
Building Official that this is infeasible. Ifthe project does not connect to
sewer, applicant shall comply with the following:
a) Prior to issuance of building permits, the applicant shall submit a Soils
Report which includes a sewage disposal plan referenced to the
grading plan and approved by the Riverside County Health
Department.
b) Prior to release for occupancy, the developer shall record a notice
entitled "Septic System Disclosure and Restrictions" specifying that the
property is served by a septic system and that no structure or paving
may be placed over the sewage disposal area or the expansion area. A
copy of the approved septic system plot plan shall also be recorded
along with this notice and provided to the City for verification.
c) An acknowledgment of receipt of this notice by the expected occupant
of the property shall also be submitted to the City.
9. All exterior air conditioning units, shall be ground mounted and screened so
that they are not visible from neighboring property or public streets.
10. Applicant shall plant street trees, selected from the City Street Tree List, a
maximum of thirty feet (30) apart and twenty-four -inch (24 ") box in size as to
meet the approval of the Community Development Director or designee prior
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to issuance of building permit.
11. A six -foot (6) high wood fence or masonry wall shall be constructed along
the side and rear property lines and shall conform to Section 17.14.080
(Fences and Walls). Wooden fencing where allowed shall have an
overlapping construction to prevent gaps from forming due to shrinkage and
weathering. All wooden fencing shall be painted or treated to protect against
weatherization and staining from irrigation over - spray. Also galvanized steel
posts set in concrete shall be used for the fence vertical support. Compliance
with this condition is subject to the approval of the Community Development
Director or designee prior to issuance of building permit.
-12. Prior to issuance of building permits, applicant shall provide assurance that all
required fees to the Lake Elsinore Unified School District have been paid.
13. Prior to issuance of building permits, applicant shall pay park -in -lieu fee in
effect at time of building permit issuance.
14. All Conditions of Approval shall be attached or reproduced upon page one of
building plans prior to their acceptance by Building Division.
15. The address (in numerals at least four inches (4 ") high) shall be displayed
near the entrance and be visible from the front of the unit.
16. Prior to issuance of any grading or building permits, the applicant shall sign
and complete an "Acknowledgment of Conditions" and shall return the
executed original to the Community Development Department for inclusion in
the case records.
17. Provide a flat concrete pad or area 3'- 0" by 9'- 0" adjacent to the dwelling for
the storage of the City trash barrels. The storage pad or area shall conceal the
trash barrels from public view.
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18. All Public Works requirements shall be complied with as a condition of
development as specified in the Lake Elsinore Municipal Code (LEMC) prior
to building permit.
19. Dedicate underground water rights to the City (LEMC 16.52.030). The
document can be obtained from the Engineering Department.
20. Pay all Capital Improvement and Plan Check fees (LEMC 16.34, Res. 85-
26).
21. Construct all public works improvements per approved street plans (LEMC
Title 12). Plans must be approved and signed by the City Engineer prior to
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issuance of building permit (LEMC 16.34).
22. Street improvement plans and specifications shall be prepared by a Civil
Engineer. Improvements shall be designed and constructed to Riverside
County Road Department Standards, latest edition, and City Codes (LEMC
12.04 and 16.34).
23. Pay all fees and meet requirements of an encroachment permit issued by the
Engineering Department for construction of off -site public works
improvements (LEMC12.08, Res.83 -78). All fees and requirements for an
encroachment permit shall be fulfilled before Certificate of Occupancy.
24. : All compaction reports and grade certifications shall be submitted to the
Engineering Department before final inspection of off -site improvements will
be scheduled and approved.
25. On -site drainage shall be conveyed to a public facility or accepted by
adjacent property owners by a letter of drainage acceptance or conveyed to a
drainage easement.
26. All natural drainage traversing the site shall be conveyed through the site, or
shall be collected and conveyed by a method approved by the City Engineer.
BUSINESS ITEMS
31. P=osed Revision of Animal Control Ordinance No. 1003 - Ordinance Vo.
1
City Manager Watenpaugh explained the proposed changes to the code with
regard to abusive animals. He advised that this change would allow L.E.A.F.
to deal with noisy animals or barking dogs, and gives them the authority to
deal with these animals before their Board. He noted the exhibits which
explain what constitutes a noisy animal. He advised that a representative of
L.E.A.F. was present for clarification.
Councilman Alongi indicated that this is an important ordinance for animal
control, and noted problem areas where people have no consideration of their
neighbors. He stressed that this ordinance with give the Code some teeth for
enforcement.
Councilman Metze expressed concern with the proposed ordinance, but he
fully supports the efforts by L.E.A.F., and noted that this is apparently a
major concern, based on the complaints being received. He expressed
concern that this could become a situation of neighbors causing each other
grief unnecessarily; and particularly noted the "reasonable person of normal
sensitivity" verbiage.
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Councilwoman Brinley noted that she would think it would take more than
one complaint to initiate the process. Councilman Metze suggested two
complaints followed by a hearing. Councilman Alongi indicated that
L.E.A.F. employs professional people who know what they are doing; and
consideration should be given to the people serving under the contract. He
suggested that this ordinance would support them in their efforts and should
not be questioned.
Cary Grew, representing L.E.A.F., detailed the process for addressing a
barking dog situation and their investigation; including the barking dog letter
process and the continuation of the process. She explained that the third time
a certified letter is sent regarding the complaints, followed by a hearing. She
stressed the inconvenience of a barking dog to the surrounding neighborhood,
and indicated that they are receiving many complaints.
Councilman Metze requested clarification of the ability to "debark" a dog and
whether that is acceptable procedure. Ms. Grew explained the process and
noted that there are a number of other options to address barking.
MOVED BY KELLEY, SECONDED BY METZE TO ADOPT ORDINANCE
NO. 1033 UPON FIRST READING BY TITLE ONLY:
City Attorney Leibold clarified the ordinance as proposed which provides for
a hearing after the second complaint. She indicated that if protocol is to be
three complaints, there needs to be an amendment to the ordinance. Ms.
Grew reclarified the process and the Ordinance was seen as appropriate to
the existing procedure.
ORDINANCE NO. 1033
AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE,
CALIFORNIA, AMENDING CHAPTER 6.04 "ANIMALS AND
ANIMAL CONTROL OFFICERS ", OF THE LAKE ELSINORE
MUNICIPAL CODE.
UPON THE FOLLOWING ROLL CALL VOTE:
AYES: COUNCILMEMBERS: ALONGI, BRINLEY,
KELLEY, METZE, PAPE
NOES: COUNCILMEMBERS: NONE
ABSENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: NONE
ABSTAIN: COUNCILMEMBERS: NONE
32. City Council Policy - Term of Office for Mayor. (FA4.2)
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City Manager Watenpaugh noted that the policy change item was due to
request from Councilman Metze at the December 9, 1997 City Council
Meeting. He explained the proposed change to the term of selected Mayor
to a one year term, clarifying that the Mayor elected by the existing City
Council. He further explained that the change would be from the existing
two year term to a one year term, and noted that the Policy should indicate
November rather than April. Councilman Metze noted that his intent was for
all officers, including the RDA and PFA representatives, and not just the
Mayor. City Attorney Leibold concurred that the clearer the policy, the
better; and if it is to include the Chairman or Vice - Chairman they should be
listed.
Chris Hyland, 15191 Wavecrest Drive, indicated that in her opinion this is a
ridiculous change in City policy. She suggested that it should be handled as
is done in Perris, with the Mayor directly elected by the people. She
indicated that the Council should allow choice by the Community and
encouraged letters of support to the City Council, because she will petition
the Council to allow for a vote on Mayor anyway.
Councilman Alongi expressed surprise that Councilman Metze brought this
item before the Council and questioned why, if he felt that way, he would
vote against Mrs. Kelley for Mayor. He indicated that he would like to see,
and intends to have a Study Session regarding the election of the Mayor,
hopefully before the Council consideration in February. He indicated that if
the proposed policy is to be adopted, there should be the addition of the word
"new" Mayor, every year. He suggested this would allow everyone on the
Council the opportunity to serve as Mayor. He commented that the President
is accused of several things, but that does not discount his ability to serve.
He reiterated that the Councilmembers should have the opportunity to serve.
He noted that the Mayor is mainly a ceremonial title, even though this Mayor
oversteps his bounds. He suggested that the Mayor should be allowed to sit
as long as he doesn't disgrace the City of Lake Elsinore, and stressed that this
is to be a non - partisan Council. He indicated that he agrees with Mr. Metze
about changing, but suggested that it should be something more definite so
there are no gray areas. He indicated if the word "new" is added he will
support the policy.
Councilwoman Brinley requested clarification with regard to the officers for
the Public Finance Authority, Redevelopment Agency, etc., and whether they
should be included in the policy. She indicated that as long as there is a
consensus or majority vote of the Council on the policy she would support it.
She noted that Murrieta just reelected the same mayor for a second term and
stressed that it should be the majority vote of the City Council at the time,
whether it is a new mayor or the same one.
Mayor Pape noted that no one has the "right' to sit as Mayor, it is only a
matter of having enough votes, and the support of colleagues, based on a
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simple democratic process. He suggested that to separately elect the Mayor
would only serve to divide the Council, and will not enhance the ability for
future Councils to cooperate. He indicated that it really was a mostly
ceremonial position and he only signs a few more documents.
Mayor Pro Tern Kelley indicated that she likes the one year term proposal, as
it allows for different people to serve, which is refreshing. She indicated that
with regard to directly electing a Mayor, she has given the matter a lot of
thought. She stressed that the Council is currently equal, and all are voted on
the same way. She indicated that while she would not strongly support or
oppose an elected Mayor, while the intent is to get rid of the politics, it would
inherently cause more politics and give more power to the position. She
noted that campaigning will become more expensive and more cutthroat. She
indicated that the way it is done now, even though political, is less political in
the long run. She strongly cautioned the proponents of this issue, that the
intention is defeated by doing so. She noted that she does support switching
the ceremonial position around to different people, but clarified that was not
to say the Council could not still appoint the same person every year.
Councilwoman Brinley concurred that the direct election would make the
Mayor even more political. She further concurred that the position would
have more authority because it would be given more, and supported the now
equal vote of the Councihmembers for a majority decision.
Councilman Metze concurred that the Mayor should represent the majority of
the Council and noted other cities which do not directly elect the Mayor and
suggested that he does not prefer to emulate the City of Perris. He noted that
he supported Mayor Pape this time, but he might not feel the same way next
time.
MOVED BY METZE, SECONDED BY BRINLEY AND TO APPROVE
THE REQUEST BY COUNCILMAN METZE TO AMEND THE CITY
COUNCIL POLICY REGARDING THE TERM OF OFFICE FOR THE
MAYOR TO A PERIOD OF "ONE YEAR" INSTEAD OF TWO YEARS.
Councilman Alongi addressed Mrs. Brinley with regard to Mr. Van Haaster
in Murrieta, and noted he was out of the position of Mayor for a term. He
indicated that Mrs. Kelley chastised him for withholding his vote in June to
allow for the 50% vote; and now she is saying that the people are not
intelligent enough to elect the Mayor. He indicated that he thinks the
Community has the right to vote for their Mayor, as it will remove the politics
from it. He also noted that more people might have the opportunity to sit on
the Council, and noted that there are some excellent Mayor candidates in the
Community. He indicated that you can never take the politics out of
government, but electing the Mayor would make the position responsible to
the community. He suggested that the only really important office is the
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RDA Chairperson, because it is an independent entity beyond the City. He
further suggested that position could not be shifted around and should not be
included in this action. He stressed that the RDA Chair was completely
different, as the City cannot make a decision for the RDA and has no
jurisdiction over the RDA. He indicated that he did not know if it should
apply to the Finance Authority or Recreation Authority. He noted the existing
Council policy with regard to the Mayor deciding what goes to Study
Session. He indicated if there was not a Study Session set, he was
demanding that the City Manager place the item on the agenda for February.
He stressed that the Council has the right to place items on the agenda, and
let the Council do it properly and vote it down.
Mayor Pro Tem Kelley clarified that she said "inherently "; not
"unintelligently ". She further clarified that she would not support or oppose
the direct election of the Mayor, but strongly warned that by doing so puts
more politics into the situation. She stressed that this a very complex issue,
which people should think through. She reiterated that she did not mean to
imply or state that the people are not intelligent enough to elect the Mayor.
Councilwoman Brinley called for the question.
THE FOREGOING MOTION CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE.
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5. Bids for Demolition of Hazardous Structures - 706 West Graham Avenue -
Environmental Control u s - $9-000
City Manager Watenpaugh explained this item as outlined and detailed the
location and status of the property. He noted that it was vacated in May,
1997, and since has been the focus of transient activity, structure abatement,
fire damage and was recently secured by a chain link fence. He noted that
staff was informed that the property was in escrow, with the intent to
rehabilitate the property. He noted that some of the original units have been
divided further.
Building & Safety Manager Russell indicated that this structure has been a
nuisance for quite a while; and noted the existence of lead paint and the
history of problems with the building. He indicated that staff has not yet
ascertained the intent of the new owners, but will make every attempt to
discuss their intent prior to demolition.
Councilman Alongi questioned the hotel on the corner which has been in
abatement for quite some time and was to be torn down. He stressed that
there are older units than the one being discussed. He indicated that the
RDA has no money for loans, but that is the intent of the RDA. He noted a
for a total of $41,000 to tear down buildings; but this money will be gone and
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no one can say when it will be recouped. He suggested using this money to
tear down the hotel on Main Street. He indicated that he did not understand
why staff was moving on this property and not some others. He stressed that
this property could be rehabilitated into good property.
MOVED BY METZE, SECONDED BY KELLEY AND CARRIED BY A
VOTE OF 4 TO 1 WITH ALONGI CASTING THE DISSENTING VOTE TO
AWARD THE CONTRACT FOR ABATEMENT OF THE PROPERTY AT
706 WEST GRAHAM TO ENVIRONMENTAL CONTROL SYSTEMS IN
THE AMOUNT OF $99000.
THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING WAS,RECESSED AT 8:35 P.M.
THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING RECONVENED AT 8:49 P.M.
City Manager Watenpaugh provided background on this item and the request.
He explained that it deals with oil, paint, etc. and is intended to develop a
public education program for disposal of these chemicals. He pointed out that
Florence Mowrer has coordinated with the City of Canyon Lake for a joint
application; and the maximum award could be up to $300,000 over two years,
which would pay for staff time, education, marketing, etc.
Mayor Pro Tem Kelley indicated that she pulled this item to publicize the
program, and congratulate and thank Florence for her hard work. She also
reminded the Community about the curbside program for pick up of oil and
other chemicals. She stressed that the City doing quite a bit in this area.
MOVED BY KELLEY, SECONDED BY BRINLEY AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO ADOPT RESOLUTION NO. 98-1.
RESOLUTION NO. 98-1
A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF
LAKE ELSINORE, APPROVING AN APPLICATION FOR GRANT
FUNDS FROM THE CALIFORNIA HOUSEHOLD HAZARDOUS
WASTE DISCRETIONARY GRANT - SIXTH CYCLE 1998/2000
PROGRAM TO DEVELOP, MAINTAIN AND ENHANCE A
HOUSEHOLD HAZARDOUS WASTE PROGRAM.
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City Manager Watenpaugh noted the presence of Fire Department personnel
and noted that this year is anticipated to see a savings in costs. He detailed
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the services provided under the contract and the breakdown of money
collected through the fire service district. He advised that there will be a
total cost of $275,479.00 this year, and noted that the original budget
anticipated $315,000, for a savings of about $40,000.. He recommended that
the Council not reallocate those funds at the present time.
Dale Hite, 115 N. Kellogg, questioned plans to get started on the other station
and whether this amount would cover the new station. He also questioned the
number of paid fire fighters and the number of volunteers; and whether funds
could be pulled for the other fire station.
City Manager Watenpaugh indicated that with regard to CFD 88 -3 funds,
they can not be pulled and will be held for the fire station. He detailed the
estimated costs should the City decide to open another fire station. Chief
Seabert advised that there are currently 18 active volunteers at Elsinore
station; with seven full time positions.
Councilman Alongi questioned the percentage of volunteers in the fire
department vs. regulars. Chief Seabert reiterated that there are 18 volunteers
and 7 paid staff. Councilman Alongi indicated that is over 200% volunteers.
He inquired whether 70% of the fire fighters are volunteers in Riverside
County. Chief Seabert indicated that she does not have that figure.
MOVED BY BRINLEY, SECONDED BY KELLEY AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO APPROVE THE FIRE PROTECTION
AGREEMENT AND AUTHORIZE THE MAYOR TO SIGN.
City Manager Watenpaugh noted the recent study session,on this item and
explained the CDBG process for distribution of funds within the County. He
advised that the City is anticipating about $190,395.00 this year; and
explained that there is also a request by the City to use the unused Cap for
community services for the first supervisorial district. He noted that staff
modified the overall proposal following the study session discussion, and
detailed the recommended distribution as follows:
City of Lake Elsinore
Spring Street Reconstruction Project $58,779
Riverside County Fire Station #10
Purchase of Emergency Equipment $22,220
City of Lake Elsinore
Senior Center Services $43,896
Helping our People of Elsinore (HOPE)
Food Program $ 2,500
Assistance League of Temecula
Operation School Bell $ 2,500
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Alternatives to Domestic Violence
Crisis Hotline & Counseling $ 2,500
City of Lake Elsinore
Structure Abatement &
Violation Compliance $30,000
City of Lake Elsinore
Housing Element Study $28,000
Maryann Edwards, representing the Assistance League of Temecula, thanked
the Council the past support of Operation School Bell. She detailed the
program which clothes needy children in Temecula, Munieta and Lake
Elsinore. She advised that they have 64 full time volunteers, who put in over
18,000 hours last year. She further advised that each child referred to the
program receives two complete new outfits and a backpack full of school
supplies; which were distributed to 375 children last year, with 211 from the
Lake Elsinore School District. She also advised that $16,880 was expended
on Elsinore children this year and anticipate doubling that amount this school
year. She expressed understanding that there are many worthy causes and
organizations requesting funds. She noted that their teen auxiliary has also
provided each child with a book of their choice.
Mayor Pro Tern Kelley addressed Ms. Edwards, noting that she is a teacher
and each of last three years have referred children; and noted that they are
teased, self esteem has suffered and she has seen the results of the program in
assisting the children. She expressed her support of this allocation and
wished that it could be more. She stressed the frustration of not having
enough money to go around. She addressed the Senior Center allocation and
questioned whether the proposed reductions will cause the services to suffer.
City Manager Watenpaugh indicated that staff has reviewed the annual costs
and looked at expenditures for last year; and based on that has reduced the
dollar request to allow for reallocation. He indicated that this should not
impact the services at all if the requested County funds are received. Mrs.
Kelley addressed the public works projects and noted that she wished that
money could go to parks, but it can not. She noted the proposed allocations
for the fire department and the Spring street reconstruction. She further noted
the funds for code enforcement; and noted her discussion with Police
Department representatives who believe that any efforts on code enforcement
greatly benefit their ability to serve the community. She noted some of the
pending structure abatements and indicated that the fiords may go even further
than anticipated. She commented that the housing element study needs to be
done to meet State requirements. She supported the staff recommendation for
allocation.
Councilwoman Brinley thanked Ms. Edwards for the work of Operation
School Bell. She noted that she has been to the facility and seen the children
come in and retain their dignity and self esteem. She further noted the
difficulty of peer pressure; and wished for more to give to them and other
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charities, but stressed that there are very limited funds. She commented that
she feels that there is a responsibility to seniors, but the youth are also
important. She indicated that she was glad to see funding for Alternatives to
Domestic Violence and noted everyone has known people impacted by
domestic violence. She commented regarding the public works projects, and
noted that there are many things that need to be addressed, but this is a best
effort to address concerns. She concurred with staff recommendations and
wished for more money to address other needy causes. She offered her
personal support to Ms. Edwards for fundraising efforts or other needs to
benefit the children.
Councilman Alongi concurred that there are a lot of needs in the community
for senior centers and community centers, HOPE, Alternatives to Domestic
Violence, etc. He indicated that all of the programs contribute to fighting
crime in the community. He noted a survey by the Conference of Mayors
regarding requests for emergency food and detailed the statistics with regard
to assistance. He indicated that while he supports seniors, they already have
a lovely building, meals, can play pool, etc. He suggested that a part time
person would save the City about $20,000 a year. He noted the recent
elections and indicated that people do not want to spend any more money on
taxes. He indicated that he would like to see the Center cut another $4,000.
He suggested allocating $5,000 for HOPE, School Bell and ADV, and letting
the county match funds for the Senior Center. He stressed the amount of
Senior Center Funds used for wages. He indicated that while he would not
vote against the allocation as proposed, but stressed that the dollars could be
allocated differently. He commented that all of the programs fight crime in
their own way, but stressed the amount of money structure abatement would
need. He indicated that Mrs. Kelley did not give the fiill information and
detailed the cost to board up and clean currently listed properties, with no
guarantee of repayment. He expressed concern with the negligence of the
owners and the cost of tearing down properties. He further expressed
concern that the Council puts profit over principle. He indicated that the
West End Fire Station should be built, and there will still be time to start
looking for more funds. He suggested taking $20,000 from the Senior Center
by cutting the staff to part time; and stressed that children in bad situations
are for no fault of their own.
Councilman Metze indicated that he would not question the staff
recommendation; and expressed concurrence with that recommendation.
Mayor Pape noted that Spring Street Reconstruction Project will be quite a
bit of work downtown; and noted that downtown is one area where these
funds can be used. He concurred that the dollars for Code Enforcement are
beneficial, and noted the transient activity, fire damage and drug activity. He
further noted that there are definitely buildings to be removed and several
properties with nuisances of weeds, graffiti, trash, etc. He indicated that a lot
of good can be done with these funds, if the program is consistently funded.
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He stressed that this will get the message out to absentee landlords and
encourage people to take care of properties themselves.
Councilwoman Brinley questioned Chief Seabert, and requested a ballpark
figure that 80% of the fire calls are for medical aid. She indicated that she
would not want a volunteer addressing a heart attack or other serious illness.
Chief Seabert noted that Chief Wright does not recommended fully staffing
with volunteers. Chief Seabert clarified that volunteers as trained as well as
full time staff, and stressed the safety hours and training required.
Councilwoman Brinley noted letters received from Chief Wright in the past,
which do not see staffing this station with a majority of volunteers. Chief
Seabert clarified that all volunteer stations are generally in lightly populated
areas. She stressed that because of the volume in Lake Elsinore, volunteers
can not sufficiently staff this station.
Councilman Alongi questioned if people would ask a firefighter if they are a
volunteer when someone is having a heart attack. Chief Seabert reiterated
that all responders are qualified to respond. Councilman Alongi questioned
the bargaining unit of the fire department and whether it would be
counterproductive to support volunteer firefighters over paid firefighters.
Chief Seabert deferred to Chief Brown. Chief Brown responded that Chief
Wright is only going to recommend to each area, the proper level of fire
protection. Councilman Alongi further questioned the standard the
Department would like to keep. He questioned if it would be possible to
operate at a lesser standard and still comply with the needs of the community.
Chief Brown indicated that the level of service is based on needs of the
community, and there is a very high volume, with large wildland areas,
fluctuations in population, heavy industrial and commercial growth in the
City. He indicated that he did not believe that an all volunteer company will
meet the needs of the Community. Councilman Alongi questioned the
amount of volunteers that respond in the City that are not at the fire station
when called. Chief Brown indicated that he does not have that figure, but
could provide it.
MOVED BY METZE, SECONDED BY BRINLEY AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO APPROVE STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS
ALLOCATING THE CDBG FUNDS AS FOLLOWS:
City of Lake Elsinore
Spring Street Reconstruction Project
$589779
Riverside County Fire Station #10
Purchase of Emergency Equipment
$229220
City of Lake Elsinore
Senior Center Services
$439896
Helping our People of Elsinore (HOPE)
Food Program
$ 2,500
Assistance League of Temecula
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Operation School Bell
Alternatives to Domestic Violence
Crisis Hotline & Counseling
City of Lake Elsinore
Structure Abatement &
Violation Compliance
City of Lake Elsinore
Housing Element Study
$ 2,500
$ 2,500
$30,000
$28,000
Mayor Pape indicated that this item was pulled by staff.
City Manager Watenpaugh commented on the staff proposal for a policy to
allow for sale or removal of palm trees identified for topping by the power
company. He noted areas where they have trimmed trees and allowed them
to die; and explained that this policy will allow for removal of trees in the
right of way if they constitute a problem for the power company, as they will
top the tree which will eventually kill it. He fi ffier noted that there has been
a controversy over people stealing palm trees, so this is an effort to put
together a program to benefit the community and possibly generate revenue,
rather than letting them die. He advised that there are approximately 10,000
street trees in the City with about 3,000 palm trees in the powerline easement.
He clarified that the intent is not to go out and dig up all trees in that right of
way, but when notified that the power company intends to top trees, this will
offer an alternative to letting them die. He indicated that staff feels it will be
beneficial to let a contract for relocation or sale to benefit the Community.
He clarified that this policy would be at no cost to the taxpayers, but about
$500 per tree would come to the City.
Mayor Pape noted that the program certainly makes sense, and noted it might
actually be beneficial. He commented that his preference would be to keep
the trees in the community, even if relocated.
Councilman Alongi expressed concern that City Manager Watenpaugh's
comments are contradictory with page three of the report, regarding
relocation of trees. He questioned whether the trees would be relocated at no
cost to the City. Mr. Watenpaugh clarified that different wholesalers are
willing to pay the price for these trees, and if acquired they will relocate them
to another location or a park if that is what is desired. He suggested going
out to bid with landscapers and developers when trees are available for
removal, and clarified that the City would receive the fee and they would
remove the trees at no cost. Councilman Alongi questioned where the trees
would be relocated and suggested that a guarantee is needed that the trees
will be replaced where they are needed. He expressed understanding
PAGE TWENTY -SIX - CITY COUNCIL MINUTES - JANUARY 13, 1998
of the $500 purchase price, but expressed concern that the trees may be
needed in another area and he would like to retain that option.
MOVED BY BRINLEY, SECONDED BY METZE AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO APPROVE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION TO
SELL PALM TREES IN THE CITY'S RIGHT- OF-WAY WHEN
NECESSARY, TO ELIMINATE POTENTIAL SAFETY HAZARDS; AND
DIRECTED STAFF TO SOLICIT BIDS FOR THE PURCHASE OF PALM
TREES BY WHOLESALERS ASSURING THE CITY THE BEST PRICE
AND HAVE THE CITY MANAGER EXECUTE AN AGREEMENT FOR
THE PROVISION OF PALM TREE REMOVAL WITHIN THE CITY'S
RIGHT -OF -WAY.
City Manager Watenpaugh noted the request for the old Methodist Church
pews currently stored in the basement of the Cultural Center (32 of them). He
explained that the Historical Society has proposed renovating some for
display in the museum, with the balance to be used as a fundraiser to generate
revenue for the Society.
Councilman Alongi indicated that he has a couple of problems with the
request. He explained that he does not disagree with some being given as
historical memorabilia, but he does feel that the City should retain a lot of
them, as they have plaques on them designating who donated them, and in
honor of those people the City should retain them and display them in the
Center. He stressed that this would bean opportunity to witness what the
families have done for the Community. He reiterated that he would agree
with a couple for the museum and noted that with the dampness in the
basement they won't last long.
Mayor Pape suggested offering up to four pews for use at the Historical
Society facility.
Mayor Pro Tem Kelley inquired of the City Attorney as to whether this would
be a gift of public funds. City Attorney Leibold indicated that it would not be
a gift of public funds as long as the public benefits. Mayor Pape noted that he
had the same conversation this morning. Mrs. Leibold indicated that if all of
the pews were donated there could be an issue raised with regard to a gift or
favoritism to one entity over another, primarily an issue of favoritism. She
explained that with regard to a few, that would be well within the public
interest with displaying them in the museum.
Councilman Alongi inquired, in that they were originally donated to the
church in name of families, do the families have right to reclaim the property
since they were donated for church use. City Attorney Leibold indicated that
she was not aware of a statute to govern that issue, but clarified that when
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the City acquired the building, the pews were acquired.
MOVED BY BRINLEY, SECONDED BY PAPE AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO AUTHORIZE UP TO FOUR PEWS TO BE
GIVEN TO THE LAKE ELSINORE HISTORICAL SOCIETY FOR USE IN
THEIR MUSEUM.
THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING WAS
AT 9:40 P.M.
THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING RECONVENED AT 9:43 P.M.
1 u u_ WIt y
Donna Franson, 7 Villa Valtelena, announced that the Lakes Chapter of the
California Republican Assembly will be holding their first meeting on Thursday,
January 15, at 7:30 p.m. in the Tuscany Hills Recreation Center, 75 Sumerhill
Drive. She stated that Senator Ray Haynes will be the guest speaker and invited all
Republicans to attend. She gave an historical overview of the California Republican
Assembly and their goals, and noted that the Meeting in February will have
Assemblyman Bruce Thompson as speaker.
Frank Jackson, Chuckles Java Junction, stated his concerns regarding a church
allowed to feed the homeless as approved by the Design Review Committee and
noted the problems for the local businesses when the homeless are encouraged to
gather in an area.
Mayor Pape called on Senior Planner Villa to explain the situation. Senior Planner
Villa stated that the Design Review Committee held a Special Meeting today in
which they considered an expansion of a church at 107 E. Graham. He noted that
the existing church on East Graham wants to expand their existing facility to allow
bible study and administrative functions as well as additional space for church on
Sundays. He noted that the Design Review Committee approved the request.
Mayor Pape asked what the discussion was regarding a soup kitchen. Senior
Planner Villa stated that one of the requests was to utilize the space one Saturday a
month for an outreach program which serves coffee and donuts to encourage people
to come to the church. He noted that the Design Review Committee voted not to
allow that use and the approval was to only utilize the expansion area for Tuesday
evenings,Wednesday evenings and Sunday for church meetings. Mayor Pape asked
how the rumor got started that they were going to have a soup kitchen. Senior
Planner Villa explained that in the initial request they asked to be allowed to utilize
the area for an outreach program one Saturday a month, however the Design
Review Committee did not approve that. Mayor Pape clarified that the church was
told that they could not have a soup kitchen. Senior Planner Villa confirmed and
explained that this addressed the expansion area, however they have been holding
an outreach program in their existing facility for the past five years. He father
explained that the existing facility is a legal non - conforming church and does not
have a Conditional Use Permit. Mayor Pape clarified that they would not be
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changing any of the services they have been providing for the last five years, and the
new facility will be used for classes and administrative uses.
Donna Lucas, Collectors Corral, stated that they have purchased the building at 133
North Main Street, and expressed her objection to an expansion of the church or any
other churches coming to the downtown area. He explained the problems churches
and feeding of the homeless create in a commercial area. She asked that Council
address this issue, and stated that she would far prefer to see commercial rather than
a church and asked that Council consider their position.
F. Starr Bassion, Main Street Florist, concurred with her fellow business persons
and expressed her concern regarding the church and stated that she felt that their
application was less than honest.
Donna Morin, Lake Elsinore Historical Society, thanked the Council for their action
and staff for their hard work. She appealed to the public to assist them in finding
and acquiring a new facility. She asked that the Seniors consider the Historical
Society for any of their memorabilia that would be pertinent to the City. She stated
that they can contact her at (909) 245 -9230 or Carol Pollack at (909) 245 -0421.
Tom Daly, 22031 Village Way, Canyon Lake, made an appeal for the youth in the
City and stated that he is proposing to open a Youth Center in the City. He stated
that he would like to sit down with Council to discuss this issue and noted the
volunteers who have already stepped forward to assist. He noted that his main
concern is the youth and asked Council for their assistance. Mayor Pro Tern Kelley
asked if this was connected with the Teen Center in Canyon Lake. Mr. Daly stated
that it was not. Mayor Pape asked Councilwoman Brinley to meet with Mr. Daly.
Martin Esquada, 29015 Rolando Road, spoke in favor of the youth center proposed
by Mr. Daly, and stated that they want to work with the City to make this happen.
Jann Howard, Memory Lane Antiques, spoke in opposition to the church and
questioned the Council's vision for Main Street. She stated the problem that have
occurred on Main Street and noted that by having churches it is allowing Main
Street to get away from having businesses and merchants. She stated that there is
nothing wrong with churches, however it is not an appropriate use for Main Street.
John Del Regno, Dolphin Football, announced that there is a game this Saturday,
and noted his problems with payment to the City for his football game. He noted
that they need to have the opportunity to play their game on Saturday.
Dale Hite, 115 North Kellogg, addressed the negotiations for the Stadium. He
asked why the City does not have other bids on the Stadium. He questioned what is
happening with the parks. He addressed the problem of building abatement and
stated that removing the building does not remove the people creating the problem
since they just move to the next empty house. He noted that the longer the City
waits to build the fire station the greater the cost, and felt that the City should not
wait.
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Nita Van Heest, 33146 Shoreline Drive, noted that 80% of all fire fighters are
utilized on a volunteer basis throughout the United States. She noted that the only
difference between volunteer fire fighters and volunteer police is that they do not get
a pay check. She noted that they must have the proper training. She stated that the
Red Lion Inn is a myth, and noted the Development Agreement with Inland Pacific
regarding a hotel; and stated that the whole thing was based on fraud.
Chris Hyland, 15191 Wavecrest Drive, stated that the City owns the parks and boat
dock which are closed, as well as 11 City staff members who were laid off that
maintained those facilities. She noted however that the City still employed a Public
Services Director, Manager of Recreation/Tourism and Assistant City Manager
position and noted those salaries and the savings that the City could make if those
persons were not still employed in Departments that do not function. She noted the
City should eliminate those positions in such lean times and turn the Senior Center
into an all volunteer organization. She stated that labor can function without
management, but management cannot function without labor. She suggested that the
management should be cut from the City, the labor force be brought back and the
facilities opened.
City Manager Watenpaugh commented on the following:
1. Responded to Mr. Hite's comment regarding the closure of the parks and
stated that there has been no direction at this time to close the parks, however
Council has directed staff let them know when the funds run out and that has
not yet been addressed. He noted that staff will be bringing this issue to
Council on the 27th of January to consider. He stated that he cannot answer
why there have been no other entities that have come forward to bid for the
Stadium, however he can only speculate that the costs of the Stadium do not
allow for many organizations to offer.
2. Stated that the Assistant City Manager's position is vacant.
No Comments.
Mayor Pro Tem Kelley commented on the following:
1. Commented on her pleasure regarding getting the Wells Fargo Building for
the library. Commended Supervisor Bustertor his hard work in acquiring the
building for the library.
Councilman Alongi commented on the following:
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1. Addressed the Fire Department and stated that he has two brothers who are
retired Firemen and stated that the second highest stress job is being a
fireman, the first being the President. He stated that he does concur with
some of the concerns, however he does disagree with some of the other
points. He stated that he feels that the Fire Department does a great job in the
community both in fire fighting and medical assistance.
2. Stated that his brother -in -law has taken on the responsibility of caring for the
two children who's brother was drowned in the truck in Lake Elsinore and
stated that the children wake up screaming in the night because of what
happened. He asked what is wrong with a newspaper that puts the picture on
the front page. He asked if they didn't have anything else to put on a front
page other than that picture, since the children are old enough to pick up a
paper and look at it.
3. Thanked Carl Love for the article on him. He stated that he does the Santa
Claus because there is a need and he will continue to do it until there is no
need or he drops dead.
4. Addressed the school buses displaying flashing red lights. Noted a public
servant who is more interested in traffic rather than the safety of children. He
noted that it was stated that it was one child that was killed, however he
wondered how that person would feel if it was his child under the wheels of
that bus and the pain of the family. He noted that he has been across the
United States and even in very small towns people do not object to stopping
for a school bus.
5. Stated that it is time for Mr. Alongi to start "Kicking Ass ". He stated that a
document was delivered to his home which was the testimony of the Grand
Jury. He stated that the Sun Tribune felt it necessary to print a story about his
friend Dexter Armstrong and stated that if he could give him his heart and his
life, he would as well as his wife and children. He stated that however, he
went to the paper and told them a bunch of junk about the fact that their
partnership had been dissolved in 1991 and that they were not friends
anymore and the garbage that he has in the report, he will answer to
personally. He stated that whether he goes to court or not and whether he is
convicted or not he will go after him and he will pay for all the lies that he has
told. He stated that his wife and him have loved that man for a lot of years
and they put that man in a convalescent home that he wouldn't put someone
he disliked in, because Dexter Armstrong was a man who prided himself on
perfection. He stated that he wanted perfection for the people that he worked
for and did things for in the churches and other things and he also did it for
the homes that he lived in. He stated that his wife was willing to give their
bedroom to Mr. Armstrong and had ordered a medical bed to bring him home,
because his wife could not take the pressure of caring for him. He stated that
his wife was willing to clean his butt if necessary because they loved him, and
this degenerate has the almighty gaul to say the things that he said in this
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report about his father and his relationship. He stated that it would not go
unanswered, and stated that David Armstrong has judgements against him for
child support, but has the gaul to go before the Grand Jury and testify against
him.
6. Addressed a Notice of Claim that was served on him at his home, which is by
several different lawyers who are representing the BNY, Western Trust
Company, formerly known as the Bank of New York, Indenture of trust for
the Bond Holders. He started to read the claim.
Mayor Pape asked that the City Attorney give an opinion and then Councilman
Alongi could proceed. Mr. Alongi stated that he can read this because he was
named personally in this claim.
City Attorney Leibold stated that no individual is named and there is a list of
individuals who were identified as possible employees during the alleged misdeed.
She further stated that in any event the claim has been filed against the City,
Agency, and Finance Authority and will be processed in the normal course of events
by which the City and Public Agencies deal with claims', no complaint has been
filed yet and is premature to do so. She recommended that Council allow the public
agency to act in its normal course of business and not air the details of the
complaint, which based on preliminary review by our bond counsel has inaccurate
statements. She noted that bond counsel is meeting with the attorneys in question
and she would recommend that it not be read.
Councilman Alongi stated that he has a right to appoint his own attorney to
investigate why these people feel this way. He stated that he will also have
his attorney present when this issue is discussed in Closed Session to make
sure that his rights are not violated. He read from the document a section that
alleging that the City misused the money received from the Bonds and refused
to repay the money. He stated that it also reads that the City also took
$500,000 of the refinance. He further read the charge and stated that they are
very strong words and his attorney will be in contact with them to find out
why they feel that the City did these things. He asked why the District
Attorney feels that they can serve him at the place that he eats and not at City
Hall.
7. He stated that he does not know what this Council feels reserves are for. He
addressed the fire station on the West End and stated that if we did it now we
could do a better job and build it cheaper now and then plan on how the City
could man it. He stated that the people are paying for the building in their
assessments and there are plenty of people in this town that are quite capable
of building it. He stated that he for one could build it.
8. He explained that he does not care what the Mayor says regarding Cal -
Burger, he knew what was said in the City Manager's office and the owner
was told what would satisfy Planning and the concerns of the Council, he
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would be approved. He stated that what should have been done was to tell
the owner a flat "no" when he came to the counter, not to keep moving him
along.
9. He addressed the Senior Center and noted that the City laid off 11 employees
from Public Works because there was no funding to maintain Public Works
and asked why the City could not cut the Senior Center a little bit and lay
someone off there to part time.
10. Addressed Mayor Pro Tem Kelley and stated that no matter what Council
does it will be political because that is the system. It is the Democratic
system to allow people to make choices, however people don't have the right
to make choices here on this Council. He stated that it doesn't make a
difference what any other town is doing and noted that he does not live in
other cities, he lives in Lake Elsinore and he is concerned with Lake Elsinore
politics and not anything else.
11. He questioned the football team and asked if they had the money in their
hand, and as far as he was concerned "plunk it down on the table and play
ball ".
12. He noted that the City makes a big "to do" regarding their accounting. He
stated that it is pony show stuff since we are supposed to do that, however
put in the paper that the City has found $3 million that we can do something
with, that's what should be in the paper; tell him that we are going to take
$300,000 from our reserves to open our parks, that's something good; tell me
that we are going to take the money out of the reserves to open the fire
station, that's something good; but this is bad. He stated that is like giving
our City Attorney a plaque for doing her job, we pay her to do a job and if
she doesn't do her job we get rid of her.
13. He stated that now that he has the document from the Grand Jury and can
make a review of it, the people who said the wrong things are open for
slander suits and are not protected at all. He noted a conversation that the
Mayor had that referred to the fact that he wore a wire and taped a personal
conversation between them pertaining to the CDBG. He stated that in review
of the document it was amazing that the District Attorney didn't mention it at
all and did not bring the tape to the Grand Jury and play it. He stated that it
must not have had anything bad in it. Councilman Alongi stated that they
have filed for a continuance and will be going over the accusations one by
one and will be filing a report. He stated that they will be using every arm of
the system that is available to him since it is his right as a citizen of this
Country. He further stated that it is amazing to him and he sympathizes with
the people on Main Street, and that is why he gets up from his chair and
leaves the room, because there is no way that you can mix man's law with
God's law. He explained that you will either operate on one or the other and
he is a strong believer of the word and the word tells him that we must feed
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the poor and the word tells him that he must help the sick and they will be
among us. He stated that he does not read anything in that book that says
"except if they are on Main Street". He asked where is the compassion of the
people. He stated that he understands fully and that he owned five properties
on Main Street and had to give them up because of the problems that he is
having now. He stated that he thought it was better just to walk away from
them than to face the bull crap that he has to face on Council and he
understands where the merchants are coming from. He stated that he has put
a lot of money on Main Street, but he also has to remember that there are
those people, like Carol that the system itself has failed. He noted that he has
had Carol picked up twice and brought to Riverside and the minute that he is
able to tell them his name and where he lives, he qualifies to place him right
back on the street. He noted Gary who burned his brain out with LSD and is
afraid to step on cracks on sidewalks and is filthy and at one time he taught at
a college. He asked where do we put these people and commented that if the
system won't do a damn thing what do we do. He noted that they are going
to be with us no matter what we say and what we do. He stated that we need
to do something as a society and do something in this community. He stated
that he tried to get a building in this community 3 years ago on Sulphur Street,
which would have housed all the community services and use the extra rooms
to house those people. He stated that this Council won't do it and the
previous Council didn't do it. He stated that the very people we are supposed
to take care of, we don't. He stated that we have the NHABY attitude "not in
my back yard"; send them some place else. Addressed quality housing and
stated that it is a disgrace to the community and he does not give a damn, so
he will continue to fight for that quality housing for every level of income. He
stated that if that means that a Carol has an apartment on Main Street, so be
it. He stated that if that means that Gary lives next door to somebody's
business, so be it. He stated that people should get on their knees and thank
yourselves for what you have that God hasn't put that burden on your
shoulders. That you enjoy good homes and good cars, not saying that you
didn't work for them, however somebody is going to be at that bottom line.
He stated that no one knows where they are going to be on that scale from
year to year and he just wants to see them have an opportunity.
14. Addressed Councilwoman Brinley and stated that he did not give a damn if
she has the place full of police officers, if she rattles him in any way, he will
say what he feels like saying. He stated that it does not make a damn bit of
difference how many officers she has in the auditorium. He stated that he has
a great respect for police officers and thank them every day for the job they
do, but don't you think for a minute that bringing a police officer in this
building is going to curtail what he has to say to the public.
15. He stated that he hopes everyone has a happy and prosperous New Year.
Councilman Metze commented on the following:
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1. Complimented the committee on the Library.
2. Requested a Study Session with the Planning Commission/Design Review
Committee regarding some of the issues on Main Street. He suggested that
the businesses be invited to attend and participate.
3. Noted an article in the newspaper regarding the requests made to the State for
the return of funds. He stated that the cities even have the Howard Jarvis
Taxpayers Association in support of these efforts. He commented that the
article states that $14.3 billion has been shifted from the local governments to
the State since 1991. He noted that the article also states that the we have an
Assembly that has passed it; a Senate that is holding it up; and a Governor
who is making all sorts of promises, yet not a dime has come to the cities. He
asked what the Governor is running for.
4. He commented on the situation tonight and noted the people that sit and clap
and egg the Councilman on, however the document he referred to makes a
statement 17 times "Willful and corrupt misconduct in office in violation of
Government Code" and lists the number. He asked how they sit there and
support this gentleman and he come to the meeting and trashes the rest of
Council. He indicated that "ain't nobody said this about me or anyone else
on Council ". He stated that it is known that four of the charges have already
been tried to be appealed through the FPPC process and failed. He stated
that the newspapers were really kind to the man, because only one paper said
anything about corrupt, however 17 different times it is telling you, the
citizens of this community that this man exhibited willful, corrupt misconduct
in office. What more do you want and who are you going to believe. He
asked who has been honest with you and who has been dishonest. He has the
documents right here and he has the money to fight it. He noted that all the
rest of Council would be out of office, because they don't have the money to
fight. He stated that it is money buying time. He stated that months ago he
announced that it would all come out in the wash and now it has. He stated
that he considers Councilman Alongi the Titanic, going down slowly,
however when it goes down it will show no mercy.
Councilwoman Brinley commented on the following:
1. Stated that the library will be maintained by the County.
2. Noted the comment regarding cutting the Senior Citizen Center and giving the
money to Public Works. She stated that the City cannot do that since the
money does not come from the General Fund and cannot be used for other
purposes. CDBG funding is restricted.
3. Addressed the downtown area and stated that they will meet with the
Planning Commission/DesignReview Committee and she will have a better
idea about what is going on. She stated that it is her understanding that there
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will be no soup kitchen at the church facility. She noted that when she spoke
with Pastor Hilbrant, he assured her that they were going to provide security
to make sure that there was no loitering or problems from their programs.
She stated that she feels that there is a lot of charity on Main Street since she
has seen the local merchants come out in support of different programs. She
stated that she has observed the local merchants giving the homeless money
to go and buy food. She stated that Pastor Hilbrant has been in that location
for the last five years and is growing, and needs the room for his Sunday
School and Bible Study. She noted that past history will show that she has
not been in favor of churches in Business Districts just because of the type of
problems that have occurred. She frther noted that Pastor Hilbrant is
currently negotiating for a church and does not intend to make that site their
permanent home and asked that the community be patient until he can
relocate. She stated that she will be looking into the other issues.
4. Addressed Mr. Daly and his efforts for a Youth Center and stated that she
will work with him to see what can be accomplished. She thanked Mr. Daly
for his efforts for the youth of Lake Elsinore.
5. Commented on the Dolphins and the problems that staff has had with
deadlines and field issues. She stated that one of the issues is rain damage on
the field.
6. Noted that $6 million of Redevelopment Agency money was invested in the
Downtown area to entice businesses to the area and to promote tourism. She
noted the program on Vision and Views and stressed that this Council does
care.
7. Addressed Councilman Alongi and stated that although he has accused the
rest of Council of being stupid and ignorant, they are not being accused of
willful corrupt misconduct and misuse of office. She stated that to her that is
someone who is stupid and ignorant that would go out and do something like
that. She further noted that in the charges he is accused of buying and selling
Redevelopment Agency property and stated that she does not remember him
turning any of that money over to chanty or giving it to Kids on Track or
other favorite charities that he beats Council up about.
Mayor Pape commented on the following:
1. Commented on a recent article in the newspaper about the number of building
permits issues in the first part of 1997 versus the number of building permits
issued during the same period of 1996 and noted that in Lake Elsinore we
nearly doubled the number of permits during that time period. He stated that
this is a possible sign that the recession is finally getting over with.
2. Stated that adding to the presentation by Chief Walsh, there was an article
that talked about crime rate and in Lake Elsinore crime was down almost
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43% from 1994 to 1996. He stated that this is a very significant drop.
3. Noted the mailer in the billings from CR & R regarding the activities in the
City. He hoped that the residents have seen and read this.
4. Stated that he attended the Chamber of Commerce Installation dinner and
noted that they have several projects that they will be bringing to the City in
the future and he felt that by working together a lot more can be
accomplished.
5. Thanked the Temescal Football Team for inviting him to join them for their
banquet. He commended the kids for their accomplishments and noted that
the overall GPA of the football players is 3.15, with 4 straight A students on
the team.
6. Asked that Council consider during their Goals and Objectives Study Session,
that funds saved from the fire department be allocated toward the other public
safety needs and the Police Department.
7. Noted that the wheels of justice move slowly and stated that finally we are
starting to see the results of some of the activities of the District Attorney and
the 19 member Grand Jury. He stated that they took a lot of testimony to
make a decision to come in with the accucations. He commented that he is
sure that Councilman Alongi will do everything he can do to stall, going to
court because once he goes to court and the jury reches a verdict, he is gone.
He stated that he will be off the Council, there is no appeal, there is no more
dragging it on, therefore he needs to do everything he can to prevent it from
going to court. He stated that we will be seeing some desperate actions in the
next few meetings; the time is drawing is near; and he will pat himself on the
back and try to drag down whoever he can with him, but we need to focus on
the positive and the things that have been accomplished in the City and move
forward and put this behind us. He stated that it is a sore eye for the City,
however it is something that we can work through and it won't be long and it
will be over with and we can move forward.
8. Commented on his attendance at Congressman Sonny Bono's funeral as
representative of the City and noted that one of the things that stands out in
his mind is the story of Congressman Bono when he was Mayor of Palm
Springs. He said that he felt like a pinata, because someone was always
beating on him.
a. Anticipated Litigation - 1 Case (Pursuant to Government Code Section .
54956.9b).
THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING WAS ADJOURNED TO CLOSED
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SESSION AT 11:00 P.M.
THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING RECONVENED AT 12:05 A.M. NO
ACTION TAKEN.
MOVED BY METZE, SECONDED BY PAPE AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO ADJOURN THE REGULAR CITY COUNCIL
MEETING AT 12:06 A.M. Al
ATTEST:
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VICK KA" AD, CITY CLERK
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K W. P , MAYOR
OF LAKE ELSINORE
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MINUTES
JOINT CITY COUNCIL/REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
STUDY SESSION
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
130 SOUTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA
TUESDAY, JANUARY 20, 1998
CALL TO ORDER
Mayor Pape called the Joint Study Session to order at 11:02 a.m.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
The Pledge of Allegiance was led by City Manager Watenpaugh.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: COUNCILMEMBERS:
ABSENT: COUNCILMEMBERS:
PUBLIC COMMENTS - AGENDIZED ITEMS
None.
DISCUSSION
ALONGI, BRINLEY,
KELLEY, METZE, PAPE
NONE
1. Goals and Objectives - City, Redevelopment Agency, Departmental.
City Manager Watenpaugh gave an overview of the subjects to be discussed,
and stated that He will address each subject and Council then has the
opportunity to comment on each subject.
I. FINANCIAL PLAN
Restructure the Public Finance Authorities Community Facilities
District's
• Each one is to stand alone and not be pooled with others.
• Move forward with foreclosures.
• Refinance CFD's with Institutional Buyers.
Maintain a Solid Reserve in the General Fund
• Attain 25% of General Fund total in reserve.
Councilman Metze asked what the average amount of the General Fund
placed in reserves is for other cities. City Manager Watenpaugh stated that in
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other cities it varies from no money in reserve to -one third and as much as
one -half of the General Fund. Councilman Metze stated that he has asked
that Mr. Gunn come to a meeting to explain the reserves and CFD's to the
public. City Manager Watenpaugh stated that he has been in contact with
Mr. Gunn and they are trying to set up a date in late February or March.
Correct the Redevelopment Agency's Deficit
• Evaluate all D.D.A.'s, D.A.'s and agreements.
- Terminate agreements in default.
• Develop an Economic Plan for growth.
- New businesses
- Jobs
- Sales tax
- Business retention
Develop Criteria for Use of CFD Financing within the City
• Size of project
• Type of development
• Use of funds
Secure Operator and Long -term Lease on Diamond Stadium
• Complete negotiation with TMC/Diamond Stadium partners.
• Enter into long -term lease.
• Reduce City/RDA subsidy to zero.
• Develop revenue stream for RDA.
Develop and Implement a Watershed Management Plan
• Solicit citizen involvement.
• Develop a task force to address issues.
• Secure funding:
- Sponsors
- Grants, etc.
• Secure involvement from: RCFC &WCD
EVMWD
EMWD
School District
RWQCB
• Elevate San Jacinto River watershed in EPA and State Water
Resources listings.
Mayor Pape asked how much dialogue we have had with the City of Canyon
Lake since their watershed directly affects our City. City Manager
Watenpaugh explained that the City of Canyon Lake is very cooperative and
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will work with us on a Watershed Management Plan, however the City must
also work with the Property Owners Association as well. He explained that
they will be working with the Water District to address these issues and
develop a plan. There was general discussion regarding the Reclaimed Water
Task Force and their findings for filling the Lake. City Manager Watenpaugh
stated that water quality was a question and the there is no rain this winter,
then this summer the Water District will have to start pumping water into the
Lake. He noted the concern of the Water District and the cost of filtering and
treat reclaimed water, therefore it would probably be potable water used. He
stated that the use of reclaimed water would fall on the Water Quality Control
Board and the Riverside County Flood Control/Water Conservation Board.
Mayor Pape questioned the development of a revenue stream for RDA and
asked if City Manager Watenpaugh had something in mind. City Manager
Watenpaugh explained that if the City entered into a long term lease on the
Stadium it would reduce the City's subsidy and would create a revenue
stream.
Update the City's General Plan/Housing Element
• Secure funding for revising element.
• Secure consultant.
• Identify issues.
• Complete by September 1998.
Open City Campground
• Complete RFP.
• Perform maintenance tasks by April 1, 1998.
- Tree trimming
- Fencing
- Clean-up
• Secure RFP's by early March 1998.
• Award concession contract by end of March 1998.
• Award contract by April 1, 1998.
Establish a Task Force to Address Lake Issues
Councilwoman Brinley stated that she felt that there should only be the one
Lake Task Force and not confuse people by forming another. She asked if
the City was going to issue an RFP. City Manager Watenpaugh stated that
the direction the Council has given is to consider no exclusive agreements,
but to go back and discuss with certain individuals the potential for the Lake,
however there has been no direction to seek RFP's.
Mayor Pro Tem Kelley stated that she felt there was a need to establish a
Task Force to address the recreational issues.
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Councilwoman Brinley stated that she does feel that we will need a Task
Force, however until the Council makes final decisions there should be no
Task Force formed. She stated that Council does have the ultimate
responsibility and should choose what should be done.
City Manager Watenpaugh stated that staff felt that there had been
considerable conflict in trying to deal with City, County, public property,
private property, inlet channel for a ski school or open to the general public,
the high speed zone, sailing through the high speed zone, and general issues
and problems on the Lake; and a Task Force would be utilized to give
Council some direction and suggestions as to how they would address those
issues.
Mayor Pro Tem Kelley stated that she would like a Task Force and addressed
the Fill and Operate Agreement. She stated that she would like to see a path
on the levee for bicycles and walkers added to the list.
Mayor Pape stated that a lot of this will boil down to the campground and
Lake issues. He noted that there are a lot of things that Council would like to
see done, however the question is what is practical for the City to do and
what should be done by concessionaires. He stated that the slalom course is
one example of an event that someone else can take on and the City will not
have to deal with it or loose money on. He noted that it would be nice to
have a sand beach, however the City cannot afford it and it might be
something that a campground operator might want to put in.
There was general discussion in regard to recreation on the Lake and the
options available to Council
Councilman Metze asked if the City could utilize volunteer help to clean up
the campground. City Manager Watenpaugh stated that the City will use
volunteers as they can and also court workers to do general cleanup. He
noted that tree trimming will be done out of the City tree trimming contract.
There was general discussion in regarding the cost and maintenance of the
campground, as well as the income generated.
• Hold Lake Study Session to identify issues.
• Solicit task force members.
• Address: Concessions on lake
Ski school
Food concessions
City/County cooperation
• Property issues: Public property vs. private property
City vs. County
• Fill and Operate Agreement:
- Water replenishment
- Water quality
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• Lake rules and regulations:
- High speed zone
- Sailing
- Swimming
Review and Revise the City's Municipal Code
• Each department review appropriate sections and make necessary
changes.
• Clerk to review changes.
• Prepare report to Council for approval.
City Manager Watenpaugh noted that there is a need to update the Municipal
Code and gave an overview of City Clerk Kasad's findings regarding requests
for records. He noted that many cities have a 10 day requirement for turn
around and explained the process for pulling documents. Councilwoman
Brinley stressed the need for a policy to assist the process and prevent staff
from doing multiple tasks, as well as allowing sufficient time to respond. He
stated that some of the issues that have been raised over the last year are: use
of study sessions; use of task forces or committees; placement of items on the
agenda, use of staff for Council support.
Review and Revise the City's Policy Manual
• City Manager and City Clerk review manual and bring forward
necessary corrections.
• Develop policies for:
Mayor and RDA Chair roles and responsibilities
Citizens' requests for information and materials (attached)
Use of Study Sessions
- Use of task forces or committees to address community
issues
Policy for placement of items on Council/RDA agendas
Use of staff for Council support
Mayor Pro Tern Kelley stated that she would like to see a policy set that
would clearly state that each individual Councilmember is exactly equal and
clarify that the Mayorship is a ceremonial position, as well as the
Redevelopment Agency Chair; to prevent any members of Council from
making decisions the rest of the Council or Agency is unaware of. She noted
that within the policy she would like to see it written that any correspondence
will be copied to each member to keep them informed of the actions of
others. She stated that this will prevent one person from feeling that they are
above the others.
Councilman Metze stated that there has been too much independent action
taken by councilmembers. He stated that all members of Council should
work through the City Manager and noted that all correspondence should be
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copied to Council. He indicated that no meeting should take place without
the knowledge of the rest of the Council/Agency.
Councilman Alongi stressed the need to separate the Redevelopment Agency
Chairman because it is not ceremonial and operates under a different
situation. He stressed that the RDA Chairman is not ceremonial and should
be able to make decisions, whereas the Mayor is ceremonial and should not.
He stressed that the RDA Chair must meet with developers.
Councilwoman Brinley explained the actions of the Redevelopment Agency
Chair and the need to act in the interest of Economic Development. She
stated that Council receives a synopsis of the meetings, however if the Chair
were to wait until the entire Board was notified, then no business could be
conducted in a timely manner. Councilman Metze stated that he has never
received a synopsis of the meetings from Special Projects Director Molendyk
and noted that he is Vice Chairman of the Redevelopment Agency. He
further noted that those reports go only to the Chair and City Manager.
There was general discussion regarding the role of the Redevelopment
Agency and the position of Chair.
Councilman Metze stated that there have been two issues that have concerned
him. 1) Reports from Special Projects Director Molendyk are given to
Chairwoman Brinley and City Manager Watenpaugh and no one else; and 2)
independent action is taken without consent of the rest of the Board/Council
and is inappropriate.
Councilman Alongi stated that he feels the same about committees and stated
that the information is not reported back to Council.
Mayor Pape stressed the need for better communication and stated that in the
future all members should make sure to keep the others informed
City Manager Watenpaugh clarified the duties of the Redevelopment Agency
Chair and clarified the request that all members get the same informational
copies. Councilwoman Brinley noted that she will provide more detail
following meetings.
Councilman Alongi suggested that no letter goes out to any organization
without copies to the total Council and approval of the Council. Councilman
Metze concurred if the letter stated a position on something, and stressed that
this is only necessary if the letter takes a position.
Mayor Pro Tem Kelley asked that there be a policy to empower the City
Manager to say "no ", unless the issue is considered by Council.
There was general discussion in regard to the Communities of Interest and it
was noted that Council has taken a stand on that issue, however not the water
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company issue. Councilman Alongi noted that this issue was discussed,
however there was no vote on the item.
There was general discussion in regard to meetings of emergency and what
constitutes an emergency.
There was general discussion regarding the placement of items on the City
Council Agenda and it was noted that there is a policy addressing items that
have not been addressed by Council previously and need to be heard at a
Study Session. Councilman Alongi stressed that Councilmembers still have
the right to place something on the Agenda. Councilwoman Brinley indicated
that if Council wishes to place an item on the Agenda then there must be
flexibility and the item must be submitted in a timely manner to allow staff
time to prepare the item. Councilman Alongi stressed his responsibility to
represent his constituents and that issues should not have to wait six to eight
weeks in order to be considered; and there is a Council Policy that addresses
the Agenda items. There was further general discussion regarding
introducing items for the Agenda.
There was general discussion regarding the election of a Mayor and City
Manager Watenpaugh called for clarification regarding this issue.
Councilman Alongi stated that there was no firm vote on the election for the
position of Mayor and that it should be considered by Council.
Councilwoman Brinley stated that a citizen is in the process of forming a
petition, so it is not necessary for Council to consider this issue now.
Councilman Alongi stated that it would save time and effort if the Council
voted to have an election regarding this matter instead of the citizens having
to circulate a petition to make the position of Mayor elected separately from
the Council positions.
Mayor Pro Tem Kelley indicated her approval of using Task Forces and
Committees on an "as need" basis. Councilman Metze concurred, but
stressed that any Committee must go before the Council for appointment.
Councilman Alongi stated that he would like to see that each Councilmember
has the right to appoint their own member. Councilman Metze concurred.
Mayor Pro Tem Kelley indicated that there is a need to report to the City
Manager and not an individual staff member. Councilman Metze stated that
the City Manager should make it clear to the staff that if they are approached
by a Councilmember, they should report it to the City Manager, since he felt
that no Councilmember had the right to approach staff in order to give
direction.
Develop an Economic Strategic Plan
City Manager Watenpaugh explained that he has outlined a list of topics to
address and noted that the Council could have a study session since there are
other agencies that would like to participate and address Council regarding
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the different issues, and this would include RDA as well. He stressed the
need for a strategic plan. Mayor Pape asked if these agencies would be able
to help formulate specific types of business that the City could market,
spotlighting the different amenities of the Valley. He asked if it would be
possible to develop a target list for mailings, phone calls and promotion of the
community. City Manager Watenpaugh stated that they could be of
assistance in that area and noted the involvement of Special Projects Director
Molendyk and Assistant to the City Manager Best. He explained that they
have been working in this area and are aware of the opportunities. He further
noted the possible areas for marketing and emphasized keeping businesses
and jobs locally. Councilwoman Brinley clarified that this would affect both
entities, Redevelopment as well as City economic development. City
Manager Watenpaugh confirmed. Mayor Pape noted the cost to do business
in Los Angeles and Orange County is so expensive, and questioned if the City
could do some marketing of specific types of businesses to let them know that
the City is here and what we have to offer; we might be able to entice these
businesses to locate in the City. City Manager Watenpaugh agreed and
outlined the opportunities available.
Councilman Alongi concurred and clarified the third item on page 5, and
emphasized that this is setting policy and not negotiating contracts. Mayor
Pro Tem Kelley concurred.
Councilwoman Brinley stated that there needs to be better communication
between staff and Council regarding economic development; not to take an
active role, but rather to be better informed. Councilman Metze stated that it
is up to the City Manager to keep Council informed to prevent micro -
managing. City Manager Watenpaugh concurred with Councilwoman Brinley
and stated that staff needs to find a comfort level or proper time to tell
Council and RDA what is happening. Councilwoman Brinley stressed the
need to know to gain knowledge as to why a business would leave and why.
She noted it is a question of who has looked the City over, given the City a
thought and then walked away. She explained that there might be an issue
that Council or RDA could address to make the City a better place to attract
businesses. Mayor Pro Tem Kelley indicated that it would be best if staff
notifies Council/RDA of viable projects. Councilman Alongi stressed that
this is a management run City and management and staff should have the right
to bring forth what is right for the community. He noted that we have too
many developers dealing with Council and not with staff and this will send a
message for them to deal with staff and not contact Council. Councilwoman
Brinley stressed that when Council is informed, Council can make better
decisions. Councilwoman Brinley clarified why she felt that Council should
be told why developers decided not to come to the City. Mayor Pro Tem
Kelley stated that she only wanted to be informed of viable projects.
Councilmen Alongi and Metze concurred.
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• The program should strive towards a sustainable and diversified
economic base for the City.
• Emphasize a regional approach supporting collaborative efforts of the
Chamber EDC, Southwest Alliance, IEEP, IETC and other regional
activities.
• Realize both economic and redevelopment goals and coordinate both in
a positive plan for economic viability.
• Emphasize and support an economic gardening philosophy to support
existing business, providing an in -depth support network of
demographic, market niche and market share competitive data to
encourage business retention and growth.
• Research and pursue a business friendly government atmosphere,
establishing a streamlined fast - tracked process for permitting,
ombudsman or liaison assistance, one stop center or business
assistance center and customer service philosophy.
• Encourage community stakeholder involvement through EDC efforts,
business surveys and various communications. Accept community
input and utilize in a positive fashion to improve the local economic
climate and image. Encourage public /private partnerships in individual
and overall goals.
• Support a community needs assessment/SWOT analysis to determine
current status of the local economic condition, revisited regularly.
Councilman Metze asked to have SWOT defined. Assistant to the City
Manager Best explained that it is a survey that is done to identify "strengths,
weaknesses, opportunities and threats ". Mayor Pape asked who performs the
survey. Assistant to the City Manager Best noted potential sources for
performing the survey. Councilman Metze asked if the City has ever had one
done. Assistant to the City Manager Best stated to the best of her knowledge
we have not, however there is a subcommittee from the EDC which is trying
to develop one, as well as some outside entities that want to come in and
make suggestions. Mayor Pape questioned why we wouldn't take advantage
of some of the business people at the college. Assistant to the City Manager
Best stated that currently they are working with EDC.
• Establish economic development element in next draft of the General
Plan.
• Develop a better system for tracking business data, licensing, sales tax
revenues, current employee count, SIC code information, product
information and competitive markets, etc.
• Consider economic development impacts when establishing land use
policies and infrastructure requirements.
• Pursue a business attraction program limited to specific target
industries which can improve the inventory of quality jobs in the region
emphasizing manufacturing in high tech and other sectors to support
existing business clusters and the regional tourism orientation.
Participate with other entities as warranted in cooperative marketing
approaches.
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• Attempt to inventory all community impacts of an expansion or
relocation prior to establishing an incentive package. Consider current
economic climate, job growth, quality of jobs, property and sales tax
revenue, potential local or relocated hiring, supported industry sectors,
etc.
• Direct staff to remain abreast of issues which impact local economic
development efforts including housing issues, transportation and other
forms of infrastructure, legislative issues, business support programs,
etc.
• Realize the importance of community image and quality of life issues
on economic development. Consider a new motto for economic
development projecting a stable, positive business environment.
• Encourage involvement of elected officials at appropriate levels of
project development and realize the role of officials in setting policy.
• Allow flexibility in the system to keep pace with changing needs of
business in a demanding and fluidly opportunistic global economy.
• Strive to improve the quality of the local labor force through
coordinated training and education efforts.
• Establish economic development program time lines and benchmarks
coordinated with local and regional efforts.
Councilman Metze asked if a study session had been set between the City
and DBA regarding churches in the Business District. City Manager
Watenpaugh stated that he is trying to coordinate this with the DBA.
Secure Funds to Reopen Parks and Recreation Facilities
• Secure funding source
• Remove fences
• Renovate facilities
• Reestablish crews and contracts for maintenance
Mayor Pape suggested that another bullet be added to state that we
coordinate with the users groups. Mayor Pro Tem Kelley concurred and
stated on her list she has partnership with youth leagues. Councilman Alongi
asked why we would single out the youth groups and not including the rest of
the community. Mayor Pro Tern Kelley stated that it does include the rest of
the community, however the youth group uses are the most affected by field
maintenance. Councilman Alongi asked about the funds available for the
parks. City Manager Watenpaugh stated that by the end of the month the
City will be out of money and on the 27th he will give a final report. Mayor
Pape stated that parks can be further addressed depending on what happens in
Closed Session. He noted that depending on how the agreement for the
Stadium goes, Council may have to deal with the fences, facilities and staffing
as soon as possible. He stated that he does not want to put planning for that
contingency off.
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City Attorney Leibold arrived at 12:16 p.m.
II. ORGANIZATION
• Relocate Engineering to Community Development; Community
Services upstairs; and trailer to Boat Launch/beach area for lake patrol
and visibility.
• Reclassify several positions (closed session item).
City Manager Watenpaugh gave an overview of his suggestion and stated that
he would like to see Engineering moved to the other side of the building to
facilitate public access to that department and move Community Services
Department up stairs to give them more room. Councilman Alongi asked
who would then be located in the old Community Services office. City
Manager Watenpaugh stated that it would be used by the City Attorney. He
explained that he would like to move the trailer that is located behind City
Hall to the Boat Launch area; noted the potential for increased use and
indicated that the Police Department uses the trailer for traffic reconstruction
at night and would give more law enforcement visibility at the launch site.
Councilman Alongi questioned any costs to move the trailer for set -up. City
Manager Watenpaugh gave an overview of the needs. Community Services
Director Sapp stated that it would cost approximately $7,000 for the electrical
panel, however there would be no cost for the physical move. City Manager
Watenpaugh stated that he would bring the costs for the relocation back to
Council.
CITY COUNCIL RECESSED AT 12:21 P.M.
CITY COUNCIL RECONVENED AT 1:42 P.M. WITH ALL MEMBERS IN
ATTENDANCE.
III. DEPARTMENTAL GOALS
City Manager Watenpaugh gave an overview of the process of goals and
objectives and noted that each department has developed a list of projects and
goals. Councilwoman Brinley asked if Redevelopment Agency project were
included as well. City Manager Watenpaugh explained that he will separate
the RDA from the City projects later. Mayor Pape questioned the time frame
for Albertson's groundbreaking. Senior Planner Villa explained that they
anticipated opening by June, however with Cal -Trans requirements he felt
that it would be later than that. There was general discussion in regard to the
opening date. City Manager Watenpaugh indicated staff would contact the
developer and provide an update for Council. He explained the Outlet Center
expansion project has been delayed because of new ownership. Special
Projects Director Molendyk stated that there is still interest in
hotel/restaurants, however since the merger it is taking longer than
anticipated. He stated that he will keep Council informed.
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Mayor Pape questioned the progress on the Raceway. City Manager
Watenpaugh noted that staff is working with them to complete an EIR and he
will keep Council informed. He further noted La Laguna and explained that
they are revising maps and changing mitigation. He stated that North Peak
has submitted and is in the review process on their revised plans. Senior
Planner Villa indicated that they are revising the documents and tentative map
however they have not selected a consultant and the Planning Department is
waiting to move ahead. Councilman Alongi asked if TMC was still on line to
do El Toro and Nichols Road by mid 1998. City Engineer O'Donnell
indicated that Nichols road will be constructed with Phase I. Councilman
Alongi stated that he would like to see El Toro Road done at the same time.
City Manager Watenpaugh stated he would get clarification. Special Projects
Director Molendyk noted documentation regarding North Peak, but indicated
they wanted to turn some dirt in 1998. Councilman Alongi stressed that they
had announced that they were going to do both Nichols and El Toro Road.
City Manager Watenpaugh noted the status of the Eastlake Project. He
addressed the LEA Tentative maps. There was general discussion regarding
the TMC/Liberty project. Councilman Alongi suggested that there be no
discussion in regard to this item since it is to be heard in Closed Session.
City Manager Watenpaugh gave an update on Tuscany Hills.
Councilman Alongi questioned capping of the streets. City Manager
Watenpaugh clarified the road and landscaping issues.
Mayor Pro Tem Kelley questioned Cottonwood Hills. City Manager
Watenpaugh noted that they are doing some permit preservation grading and
there is a possibility that it is on the market for the right price.
Planning Division
• Maintain acceptable pace for reviewing and processing various
development proposals as have and may be submitted. Significant
projects anticipated at this time include:
- Albertson at Four Corners (GPA & Design Review)
- Outlet Center Expansion (Specific Plan and Design
Review)
- Alberhill Raceway (Specific Plan & Environmental)
- La Laguna (600 unit residential Specific Plan at west
end, tentative tract maps)
- North Peak (Revised Specific Plan & Environmental)
East Lake (Revised Specific Plan - TMC)
- LEA Tentative Tract Map(s) in East Lake
- New Tuscany Hills Development
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• Complete proposed antenna and communication tower ordinance.
• Complete Multi - Family Residential Land Use and standards study
relative to moratorium. Formulate recommendations.
• Complete Lake Edge Specific Plan.
City Manager Watenpaugh stated that we need to complete the Lake Edge
Specific Plan. Councilman Alongi questioned how this could be
accomplished without cooperation of the County. City Manager
Watenpaugh noted that it needs to have a final adoption by the City. He
commented that it could be impacted by the Cleveland Ridge COI.
• Start preparing for comprehensive General Plan update (if possibility
of funding available in future), including state certification on
Housing Element.
• Continue to strive to improve customer service to highest level
feasible.
• Improve use and access of GIS and other computer information
systems.
Mayor Pape asked if during customer service training that it be stressed that
all the departments communicate with each other. He noted the frustration of
the public. He noted that Councilwoman Brinley has discussed this with staff
and has stressed one - stop -shop service at the counter. Mayor Pro Tem
Kelley questioned placing a computer in the lobby. City Manager
Watenpaugh stated that there would be one in City Hall for the public and one
at Vons. Councilman Alongi suggested that there should be a list of
employees and their functions placed on the counter to assist people in
knowing who they should speak to. City Manager Watenpaugh stated that
staff is currently working on that project. Councilwoman Brinley stressed the
lack of information being provided and indicated that City rules are not being
provided. Councilman Metze noted the misinformation the public receives.
Councilwoman Brinley stressed the need to provide the correct information.
She noted the desire of the Downtown to have the Design Review Committee
revert back to the way it used to be. Councilman Metze stated that the
Downtown Overlay District should be kept as free of politics as possible and
noted the possible problems with the appeal process. He suggested that it
remain with the Planning Commission since it is the planning staff that
addresses the Downtown. Councilwoman Brinley stressed the fact that the
merchants need a say in the process and reiterated her recommendation for
the consistency of the Board. Councilman Alongi noted the work and money
involved in the criteria for the Historic Downtown District and stressed that
the applicant can appeal to the City Council, however if a Councilmember sits
on the Design Review Committee then it would affect the appeal procedure.
Councilman Metze concurred and noted the difficulty in deciding who should
be placed on the committee. Mayor Pape suggested that Council hold a
workshop to discuss the issues of the Historic Downtown Area. He noted
that it would be a goal for the Downtown to try and maintain some of the
•
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improvements that the City has made in the area, and painting light posts,
trash cans and seats to help keep the up the appearances of the Downtown
would be beneficial. He noted that lighting would require allocation of
money. Councilwoman Brinley stated that there is a need to maintain the
Redevelopment Agency's investments.
Building and Code Enforcement Division
• Maintain an acceptable performance level for building inspections for
the several new commercial projects (Albertson, Lake Chevrolet,
USA Properties Apartments, two ARCO gas stations, World Savings
Bank, El Pollo Loco, etc.). Along with residential tracts (Tuscany
Hills, Elsinore Homes, Jenna Group, Centex Homes, K. Hovnanian,
888 Development, Curtis at Splash, Summerhill, etc.) and other typical
day to day inspection requests.
City Manager Watenpaugh explained that this was included to note that even
though City Hall is closed on Friday, the inspectors will still go out and
perform the necessary inspections if arrangements are made in advance.
• Continue to train and educate staff per AB717 (Inspector certification
and education) requirements.
Mayor Pape questioned the status of the "Splash Project ". City Manager
Watenpaugh explained that there are a number of groups looking at that
development. Senior Planner Villa explained that there is some talk of buying
the project by lot which would obligate the owner for streets and other
improvements.
• Implement proposal for Citation Management System (attached).
City Manager Watenpaugh explained that staff is working to combine vehicle
and Lake citations to generate more revenue for the City and to give City staff
more authority to collect on the citations. Councilman Metze asked if the
County was still receiving a percentage of this program. City Manager
Watenpaugh stated that the County was receiving a piece of the handicap
citations, however they do not get any percentage of the Lake citations. He
noted that the County receives a percentage of Street Sweeping Parking
citations as well. Mayor Pro. Tem. Kelley questioned how the fines are
working on Code Enforcement. Building and Safety Manager Russell stated
that they are having a good collection rate, but some still do not pay. He
noted that the proposed new computer program would be able to track all
citations. Mayor Pape questioned the collection method and asked why it
would not be closer to 100 %. Building and Safety Manager Russell indicated
that only the traffic cites can be actached to the D.M.V., but the Lake and
Administrative citations cannot and must go to a collection agency.
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Councilwoman Brinley asked who we used to do collections. Building and
Safety Manager Russell stated that the City uses Orange Coast Credit.
Mayor Pape emphasized that the concern is to get people to comply with the
law, not generate revenue. Building and Safety Manager Russell stressed that
if they are to administer the program then they need a method to do so.
Mayor Pro Tem Kelley commented on the need for cooperation with the
County on matters that directly affect the appearance of the City and cited the
area near her house. She stressed the need to work with the County to
resolve that type of issue. City Manager Watenpaugh stated that he would be
glad to contact the County. Mayor Pro Tern Kelley noted that at one time it
was discussed that the County would house one of their Code Enforcement
Officers in City Hall. City Manager Watenpaugh indicated that he would
look into the possibility.
• Abate certain sub - standard structures throughout the City, prioritized
on the basis of severity of conditions and resources available.
City Manager Watenpaugh suggested the need for a priority list to address the
largest problems first. Councilman Metze stated that the City should
coordinate with the Sheriffs Department. Mayor Pape suggested that the
City cooperate with the Fire Department and see if they could use some of the
properties as training exercises. He stressed the need to be more cooperative
under the contract and firmer in the resolve in respect to the things that we
wish them to do for us. Councilman Alongi asked who would clean up after
the training exercise. Mayor Pape stated that it would be a lot easier to clean
up ashes than a full demo. City Manager Watenpaugh indicated that he can
ask the Fire Department and find out if there are any problems related to that
action.
• Perform nuisance abatement action on various properties throughout
the city, based on conditions and available resources.
• Perform annual weed abatement activities.
City Manager Watenpaugh explained that there were a few problems with the
program this year and there will be a greater effort for accuracy. Councilman
Alongi stated that he would still like to see a program in the City where
people use our contractor Greg Smith; or put their name on a list to have the
contractor do their property. He indicated that this would allow the public to
get their abatement done without the City having to chase them down.
Councilman Metze asked if this could be included in the first notice.
Councilman Alongi stated that this would just give us the opportunity to allow
the absentee owners to address their weed abatement without a lot of cost.
Mayor Pape questioned how they would pay for it. Councilman Alongi stated
that the City could bill them. City Manager Watenpaugh stated that the City
could provide a list of abatement contractors they could contact, but staff
would have to attach a fee to the cost for handling. Mayor Pape stressed the
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need to be out of the business. City Manager Watenpaugh noted that if the
City can assist in the hiring of a contractor, it is to the benefit of the owner
and the City.
• Continue the Abandoned Vehicle Abatement program.
Engineering Division
• Construction of the following Capital Improvement Projects:
McVicker Canyon Debris Basis
City Engineer O'Donnell explained that McVicker project is behind, however
in another six weeks they should be done. Mayor Pape stated that he has
been following the project and noted that there are a lot of people in that area
who are being required by their lenders to have flood insurance because of
the situation with the Debris Basis. He noted that it will be at least six
months after completion of the project before FEMA will actually change the
maps. He asked that Engineering keep the Council posted, so they can
inform the people.
- Lakeshore Drive at Lakepoint Park Street improvements
- Mission Trial from Diamond Street to Malaga Street Pavement
Rehabilitation
- Spring Street from Lakeshore Drive to Collier Avenue Pavement
Rehabilitation
- Chaney Street from Lakeshore Drive to Collier Avenue
Pavement Rehabilitation
• Develop and implement a capital improvement program for City
improvement projects.
• Review and assist development projects to meet City's development
standards.
• Develop and implement best management practices (BMP's) for the
NPDES Program (Storm Water Pollution Program).
• Develop a better trench paving program for utility companies.
Mayor Pape addressed the problem of the City paving a road and then the
utility companies coming behind and opening the road for their purposes. He
noted that in other cities they are notified of the road work and are given the
opportunity to do their work before the paving is done, however if they
choose to do it later, then they are charged a fee for encroachment and the
money is then provided to do a proper repair. He stated that he would like to
see an ordinance put in place to address that issue. Councilman Metze
concurred and stated that it should be curb to curb. He stressed the need for
the streets to be repaved from curb to curb to prevent the problems that we
are dealing with today. City Manager Watenpaugh noted that the policy that
was presented by Mr. Tecca to Elsinore Valley Municipal Water District was
center line to curb. Councilman Metze noted that is not what has been done.
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City Engineer O'Donnell stated that EVMWD was only required to pave
three feet each side of the trench, and now the requirement is from center line
over. City Manager Watenpaugh stated that Eastern is going center line to
curb. Councilwoman Brinley stated that in the old section of town the
trenches are sinking away. City Engineer O'Donnell explained that if the
trenching has been done within the year, the City can require them to fix it.
City Manager Watenpaugh stated that we can have them inspected.
Councilwoman Brinley stated that Sumner, Townsend, Chaney and Davis
Streets are all terrible. She noted that they had been redone four years ago
and now they look terrible. Councilman Metze concurred that many other
areas as well are affected.
• Develop and implement a computer tracking system for Engineering
plans.
• Develop programs in solid waste management to try to meet the 50%
diversion rate in the year 2000.
• Apply and obtain the fifth cycle funding for the City's used oil
recycling program.
• Develop a more cost effective program for used oil recycling.
• Develop applications for City projects for funding from the
reauthorization of the next ISTEA Federal Funding Program.
Community Services Department
Administration
• Develop and distribute an RFP to secure a concession agreement for
the City Campground.
• Establish a Task Force to address Lake issues. (Study Session)
• Develop a Community Services task force to address parks, recreation,
lake and facilities issues.
• Update the Parks Master Plan and develop a Trails Master Plan.
• Develop a Customer Service policy and training program for all city
employees.
• Maintain an effective working relationship with the Lake Elsinore
STORM Baseball Club.
• Continue to research funding needs and monitor current funding
recipients for the city's CDBG program.
Recreation/Tourism Division
• Develop an annual Tourism program to include promotion of the lake,
stadium, special events, etc.
• Emphasize a regional approach to tourism by supporting collaborative
efforts of the Chamber, private tourist destinations, and other regional
activities (ie: Snowbird conventions, water sports shows.)
Mayor Pro Tem Kelley asked if Goat Brekker has signed another contract.
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City Manager Watenpaugh stated that he has not, however the City does have
seven or eight Lake Activity Permits signed for the coming year. Mayor Pro
Tern Kelley asked if Mr. Brekker is planning on coming back. Community
Services Director Sapp stated that at their last conversation Mr. Brekker had
indicated that he would be returning.
• Become more involved with the Inland Empire Tourism Commission.
• Develop a relationship with production/filming companies throughout
Los Angeles and San Diego.
• Remain active with and supportive of local youth and adult sports
organizations and continue to assist with their needs.
• Research funding opportunities and encourage community assistance to
support recreation programs and community special events.
• Develop a program or programs to utilize the Lake Community Center.
• Continue to work with private promoters to offer large special events
to the community.
• Pursue a relationship with a contractor to develop a program in the
Inlet Channel to allow flexibility of use for the public.
• Continue to work with the Riverside County Office on Aging to insure
that the needs of the senior population are met.
• Participate with local health organizations to provide health services to
the senior population.
Public Services Division
• Develop a Park Ranger Program.
• Develop a Street Tree Inventory Program.
• Establish a 10 year carpet and roof replacement program for city
facilities.
City Manager Watenpaugh explained capital costs and the need to plan for
replacement. He noted that generally during good times cities put aside
money for replacement of capital items, however larger cities do that even in
tight times.
• Establish a 3 year program for interior and exterior painting of city
facilities.
• Hire part time staff to perform right -of -way and city property weed
abatement.
City Manager Watenpaugh noted the high cost of using the Weed Abatement
Contractor to abate weeds on City owned property and explained that this
could be done for much less money if it were done by part time staff.
• Establish a five year buoy replacement program.
City Manager Watenpaugh noted the cost of replacement of buoys and the
problems they have had with damage.
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• Develop a replacement program for city street signs.
• Establish a preventative maintenance program including a 3 -5 year
slurry program, annual striping program and right -of -way maintenance.
• Reestablish a graffiti program.
Mayor Pape asked if there was anything that could be put together for a part
time person to reestablish the graffiti program in addition to painting or
picking up trash. City Manager Watenpaugh stated that he could put together
costs for a part time employees for two or three days a week. Mayor Pape
noted the impact of not doing the graffiti program for the last six months.
Mayor Pro Tem Kelley noted a letter that was received by Council from a
lady who was willing to head up a volunteer program. Councilman Metze
concurred and stated that there may be some way to incorporate volunteers.
Mayor Pape suggested the City organize youth groups and other
organizations for weekend clean-up efforts.
Mayor Pro Tem Kelley addressed tree lights on Main Street and stated that
they should have a category. Councilwoman Brinley stressed that the tree
lights were a part of the aesthetics of the area.
Councilman Metze questioned if the City Manager had enough information
regarding the citation program. City Manager Watenpaugh concurred.
City Manager Watenpaugh addressed the RDA Goals and explained that this
is the first time the RDA has been separated from the City.
• Agency has developed a financial plan to address the deficit through
DDAs, DAs and agreements of which the majority are RDA's.
• Complete the LEA settlement.
• Secure a long term lease on the Diamond Stadium.
• Develop an economic strategic plan.:
• 20% set aside to assure that we have programs that are in compliance.
Councilwoman Brinley asked that the RDA and EDC work together on
economic development. City Manager Watenpaugh stated that he would set
up a meeting with the steering committee of EDC to assure involvement.
Councilwoman Brinley indicated that this should include the Vice Chairman
as well.
City Manager Watenpaugh commented on the variation in roles between the
Mayor and Redevelopment Agency Chairman and clarified the difference.
City Attorney Leibold noted that there is more need to be aware of the
distinction between the City and RDA. She further noted the official name of
the Agency under the Bylaws adopted in 1980, is the "Redevelopment
Agency of the City of Lake Elsinore ". She addressed appointments and noted
that the Bylaws state that the election of officers for the Redevelopment
Agency specifies the position of Chair, Vice Chair and Secretary/Treasurer,
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who shall hold office until reappointed. She noted that a formal policy does
not have to be established, however typically the reappointment could occur
at the same time as the selection of Mayor. Councilwoman Brinley clarified
that appointment can occur the same time as Council appointments.
City Manager Watenpaugh gave a brief summary of the budget and what has
occurred in the first six month of this budget. He noted that the report does
not include police and fire since they were budgeted, but their figures have
not come through yet. He noted that the General Fund and Property Tax will
not exceed the original estimate and sales tax will slightly exceed the original
anticipated amount. He further detailed the economic standing of the City
and stated that it looks good for the first of the year. He noted the budgetary
adjustments needed and departmental estimates from the first of the year are
on target and mid year we have reached about 52% expenditure. He
indicated that there are areas that must be treated with caution to prevent
exceeding projections. Mayor Pape noted the Planning Department numbers.
City Manager Watenpaugh commented on the budget expenditures by each
department to date and summarized the budget for LLMD. He explained the
expenditures on the Stadium and Lake Park enterprise fund; actual
departmental account breakdowns on revenue and noted that the City is
looking very good at this point
City Manager Watenpaugh addressed the Capital Project Schedule for
projects funded in this year's budget. He noted the breakdown on each
project.
City Engineer O'Donnell detailed the projects and their status as follows:
Annual Misc. Street Repair - Various locations in the City.
City Engineer O'Donnell addressed slurry seal in the area off Lake Street and
some of the streets off of Machado. He noted that construction would begin
in May /June. Councilman Alongi questioned if Zieglinde would be done.
City Manager Watenpaugh noted the existing schedule for the maintenance of
streets without having to overlay. Councilman Alongi questioned the money
allocated to slurry and whether it can be used on something else. City
Manager Watenpaugh stated that it would have to be reprogrammed through
RCTC. Councilman Alongi noted streets like Bromley, DeBrask and
McBride which will be impacted by the rains. Councilman Metze included
Shrier. Councilman Alongi noted that the City used rubberized stuff in the
past, and expressed concern with slurrying some and doing nothing with
others. City Engineer O'Donnell stressed preventative maintenance.
Councilman Alongi indicated that Amber Ridge has only had attention paid to
it one time. and there are a lot of people that live in that area. He stated that
he does not object to slurrying street and doing preventive maintenance,
however it must be spread around. Public Works Manager Payne stated that
the listed project are scheduled up to July 1, 1998, however after that date the
streets mentioned could be scheduled. Councilwoman Brinley stated that
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Shrier needs attention now. Councilman Alongi stressed the difficulty during
rains and noted that it seems that we are worrying about pavement which
might go bad versus pavement that has gone bad. Councilman Metze
questioned the discussion of grinding the old asphalt for use in the stressed
areas. City Engineer O'Donnell stated that there would not be that much
material available. He noted that as follow -up to Councilman Along; he
stated that the City has a problem with dirt streets and explained that if a
temporary is placed on an existing grade and then someone wants to build a
house in that area and asks where curb, gutter and sidewalk are required, the
proposed home owner would have to tear up the pavement and make repairs
to make it fit, therefore it would be better to leave them dirt until they can be
done right. He further noted that temporary streets deteriorate rapidly and it
creates another problem with keeping them up. Councilman Alongi
addressed the amount of money slated for Mission Trail and stated that he felt
that there was a greater need for Bromley, DeBrask and McBride since we
accepted an in -lieu fee that was taken from those areas and stressed that
nothing has ever been done there, nor has anything been offered to this area.
City Manager Watenpaugh acknowledged Councilman Alongi's statements
and noted that Council has, through CDBG, allocated funds which will free
up dollars for other areas to at least firm up the streets. He stated that
Strickland will have a barrier placed at the curve for safety. Councilwoman
Brinley suggested a review of the barricade at Davis and noted the impact of
traffic on the other streets. She noted the near accidents on Townsend due to
a visual problem and opening Davis would eliminate that. Councilman y
Alongi concurred with the visual problem especially with trash trucks etc.
City Engineer O'Donnell stated that there would be rehabilitation work on
Mission Trail between Malaga and Diamond Drive. He noted that the City is
working with Cal -Trans on the Traffic Signal at Dexter Ave. Mayor Pape
stated that the traffic signal should be done by the time that school is out.
City Manager Watenpaugh stated that it is the fault of the State. He noted the
traffic signal at Mill and Casino Drive. Mayor Pro Tem Kelley requested
Engineering to Notify the School District when the signal is on line. City
Manager Watenpaugh noted the section on Main Street in the Lake Point
Park area has been completed. He further detailed the rest of the Capital
projects. Mayor Pape questioned that amount of money that will be spent on
streets. City Manager Watenpaugh noted the breakdown in the budget for
Capital Improvement Projects. Councilman Alongi addressed a problem on
Mohr Street and commented that a lady had received a ticket and there is no
signage in that area, and her car was towed away. City Manager Watenpaugh
stated that he would check with the Sheriffs Department. Pubilc Works
Manager Payne gave an overview of the streets that have been or will be
slurry sealed and noted that it has been at least 10 years since any of the
roads have received attention. He fiuther noted the streets that are scheduled
for sidewalks, curbs and gutters. He detailed the maintenance plan for capital
monies. Mayor Pape questioned the calendar plan and asked if some of the
projects could be placed on the next year's calendar and address some of the
major ploblem areas now. He stressed that some of the streets have been
neglected due to lack of funds and shoud not be put off any longer.
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Councilwoman Brinley asked that the Meeting go back to RDA to put some
information forward. She noted that there is a need for a,4 /5ths vote to add
an item to the Closed Session for RDA. City Attorney Leibold advised that
in context of discussions, there were questions which needed clarification,
which have arisen since publication of the Agenda and she will need a vote to
allow consideration.
MOVED BY METZE, SECONDED BY PAPE AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO ADD REAL PROPERTY NEGOTIATION - LEA
SITE TO THE CLOSED SESSION AGENDA UNDER AUTHORITY OF
GOVERNMENT CODE 54956.8.
• Annual Curb /Sidewalk Replacement - Various locations in the City.
• Annual Misc. Street Restoration - Various locations in the City.
• Underground Storage Tank Decontamination - Intersection of Main
St.& Sulphur Street.
• Guard Rail Barricade - Strickland Ave @ Foster St.
• San Jacinto River Mitigation - San Jacinto River (Lakeshore Drive
Bridge).
• Pavement Rehabilitation - Mission Trail - Diamond Drive to Malaga
Road.
• Traffic Signal Dexter Ave. @ Highway 74.
• Traffic Signal - Mill St. @ Casino Drive.
• Street Widening and Drainage Improvements - Lakeshore Drive:
Lakepoint Park to Main Street.
• Bridge deck Restoration - Casino Drive Bridge @ San Jacinto River.
• Pavement Rehabilitation - Chaney Street: Lakeshore Drive to Collier
Ave.
• Pavement Rehabilitation - Spring Street: Limited Ave. To Collier Ave.
• Sidewalk and Access Ramp Improvements - Kellogg St., Sumner Ave.,
Lindsay St.
Mayor Pape questioned if Council should try and prioritize from the
discussion or should leave the priorities as they have been listed.
City Manager Watenpaugh suggested that he be given time to consider the
discussion and he will bring back his recommendations to Council. Mayor
Pape stated that he has two areas that he would like to see addressed: the first
is a stop sign on Mill near Avenue 12, which was brought to his attention by
the residents in that area; and the speed of traffic over in the Terra
Cotta/Lincoln area. City Manager Watenpaugh stated that he would report
back to Council with the findings regarding those areas. Councilman Alongi
questioned a stop sign to control speed, and asked if a traffic study was
necessary. City Manager Watenpaugh stated that he would look into this as
well and he would have the Sheriffs Office patrol the area more frequently.
Mayor Pro Tem Kelley requested an addition of an item to the Special City
Council Meeting by a 4 /5ths vote. She clarified the need to discuss the City
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Council's position on the merger of the Water Districts and the need to
address Council's position with LAFCO on the 22nd. Senior Planner Villa
noted that staff has submitted a report to LAFCO requesting continuance of
Cleveland Ridge because City staff does not have enough time to review the
whole packet, however LAFCO could take action on it anyway. City
Manager Watenpaugh cautioned that in the past it has been recommended to
LAFCO that another unincorporated area be denied and they did not follow
that recommendation and approved the action. Councilwoman Brinley
inquired if staff has requested more time for review, wouldn't they consider
that and continue the item. City Manager Watenpaugh concurred, however
he noted previous actions by LAFCO.
City Attorney Leibold clarified the City's ability to consider the item by 4 /5th
vote since the item did not come before Council prior to the publication of the
Agenda.
Councilwoman Brinley stated that she felt that Mayor Pro Tem Kelley was
asking for a consensus of Council. Councilman Alongi asked why it needed
to be done in Closed Session and suggested that they discuss it prior to going
into Closed Session. City Manager Watenpaugh questioned the potential for
litigation. City Attorney Leibold suggested that the item can be taken to
Closed Session first to determine whether Council has the authority to discuss
the item and then return it to the floor if it is acceptable.
MOVED BY KELLEY, SECONDED BY BRINLEY AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO ADD THE DISCUSSION OF THE CITY
COUNCIL'S POSITION REGARDING THE MERGER OF THE WATER
DISTRICTS TO CLOSED SESSION TO DETERMINE IF IT IS
APPROPRIATE TO DISCUSS THE ISSUE IN OPEN COUNCIL
MEETING.
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THE JOINT CITY COUNCIL/REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY STUDY
SESSION WAS ADJOURNED AT 3:15 P.M.
v W. PAPV, MAYOR
OF LAKE ELSINORE
ATTEST: plo
PAMELA BRI Y,ICHAIR'"
REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
VICKI KASAD, CITY CLERK
MINUTES
REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
183 NORTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA
TUESDAY, JANUARY 27, 1998
CALL TO ORDER
The Regular City Council Meeting was called to order by Mayor Pape at 7:04
p.m.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Presentation of Colors by Pack 30 Cub Scouts,
sponsored by Elks Club, with Assistant Leader Hasal.
INVOCATION
None.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT:
ABSENT:
COUNCILMEMBERS:
COUNCILMEMBERS:
ALONGI, BRINLEY,
KELLEY, METZE,
PAPE
NONE
Also present were: Executive Director Watenpaugh, Legal Counsel Leibold,
Administrative Services Director Boone, Community Development Director
Sapp, Fire Chief Seabert, Police Chief Walsh, City Engineer O'Donnell,
Building and Safety Manager Russell, Senior Planner Villa and Clerk of the
Board Kasad.
Councilwoman Brinley noted that Dave Walsh sits on Transportation Now
Coalition and would be reporting on behalf of that group.
Dave Walsh provided an update on the Transportation Now Coalition and its
accomplishments. He noted specific actions prompted by citizen queries such
as the relocation of the bus stop from the Alamo Market to Graham/Langstaff.
He also noted their success in obtaining a Van for Project HOPE, and the
second season for the Holiday Trolley. He expressed his personal concerns
with the Welfare to Work Programs and stressed the need to reallocate the
dollars.
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Councilwoman Brinley noted that the Committee is working diligently to
reconnect the old Route 28 from Temecula to Corona. She commented on
the responsibility to provide public transportation in support of the Welfare
to Work program. She advised that RTA is initiating a program in the
schools from Kindergarten forward to learn about the bus routes. She further
advised that efforts will be starting at Lake Elsinore High School in the
Leadership Classes. She stressed the concern of the Committee to make
travel through the City more pleasurable and provide better service to the
Community.
She introduced Joan Danfifer from R.T.A. and noted her help and input to the
committee.
Mayor Pape noted the Redevelopment Agency public hearing on the Stadium Lease
Agreement and suggested holding the Redevelopment Agency Meeting first.
City Attorney Leibold noted the need to add a Closed Session item under
Government Code Section 54956.9 regarding a case of Anticipated Litigation upon
which the facts and circumstances arose after the posting of the agenda.
MOVED BY METZE, SECONDED BY BRINLEY AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO ADD THIS CLOSED SESSION MATTER OF
ANTICIPATED LITIGATION TO THE AGENDA.
THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING WAS
AT 7:14 P.M.
THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING RECONVENED AT 7:35 P.M.
None Requested:
Councilman Metze indicated that he would be abstaining from vote on Item No. Lb.
MOVED BY ALONGI, SECONDED BY KELLEY AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR AS
PRESENTED.
1. The following Minutes were approved:
a. City Council Study Session - December 18, 1997.
b. Special City Council Meeting - December 30, 1997. (The vote on this
set of Minutes was an approval by a vote of 4 to 0 with Councilman
Metze abstaining).
C. City Council Study Session - December 30, 1997.
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d. Special City Council Meeting - January 6, 1998.
The following Minutes were received and ordered filed:
e. Planning Commission Meeting - December 17, 1997.
f. Planning Commission Meeting - January 7, 1998.
g. Design Review Committee Meeting - December 17, 1997.
h. Design Review Committee Meeting - January 7, 1998.
2. Ratified Warrant List for January 15, 1998.
3 Received and ordered filed the Investment Report for November, 1997.
4. Approved Conditional Cancellation of Special Tax Lien CFD 88 -3 (Lake
Elsinore Unified School District), and authorized the City Clerk to sign and
record appropriate documentation on behalf of the City.
5. Approved Public Hearing Date of February 10, 1998, for the following:
a. A request to amend the East Lake Specific Plan, for about 784 acres, to
reduce the number of proposed residential uses and reduce the
commercial and mixed uses. Pursuant to the California Environmental
Quality Act, staff will prepare an EIR Addendum to address potential
environmental impacts which may result from the project.
Control.
MOVED BY BRINLEY, SECONDED BY KELLEY TO ADOPT
ORDINANCE NO. 1033 UPON ON SECOND READING BY TITLE ONLY:
ORDINANCE NO. 1033
AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE,
CALIFORNIA, AMENDING CHAPTER 6.04 "ANIMALS AND
ANIMAL CONTROL OFFICERS", OF THE LAKE ELSINORE
MUNICIPAL CODE.
UPON THE FOLLOWING ROLL CALL VOTE:
AYES: COUNCILMEMBERS: ALONGI, BRINLEY, KELLEY,
METZE, PAPE
NOES: COUNCILMEMBERS: NONE
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ABSENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: NONE
ABSTAIN: COUNCILMEMBERS: NONE
32. Second Reading - Ordinance No- 1034 mlatine to Zone Chanee 97-1 -
Riverside Drive/Collier . 'm
MOVED BY BRINLEY, SECONDED BY METZE TO ADOPT
ORDINANCE NO. 1034 UPON SECOND READING BY TITLE ONLY:
ORDINANCE NO. 1034
AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA, REZONING 3.37 (2.54 NET)
ACRES LOCATED AT THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF THE
INTERSECTION OF RIVERSIDE DRIVE (HWY.74) AND COLLIER
AVENUE, FROM M-1 (LIMITED MANUFACTURING) TO C -M
(COMMERCIAL MANUFACTURING) ZONING DISTRICT (ZONE
CHANGE NO. 97-1).
UPON THE FOLLOWING ROLL CALL VOTE:
AYES: COUNCILMEMBERS: BRINLEY, KELLEY, METZE,
PAPE
NOES: COUNCILMEMBERS: ALONGI
ABSENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: NONE
ABSTAIN: COUNCILMEMBERS: NONE
City Manager Watenpaugh noted that this is a summary of the funds collected
to date and a request to continue funding. He reminded Council of the
reallocations following the initial closure of the parks and the authorization
for matching of funds collected. He detailed the contributions and
expenditures to date. He noted the potential for a funding source with
approval of the WC_ Lease_Agreement and the potential for reallocation of
the saved dollars. He suggested that the Council also consider the potential
of funding an additional $30,000 to remove the existing perimeter fencing in
the parks; and another portion to be allocated for the separation of the
Campground to allow it to reopen. He noted other possible uses for the
removed fencing. He suggested that the Council might want to wait until an
agreement is approved before consideration of additional reallocations.
Mayor Pape commented that sometimes the best plans don't always work out,
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as it was originally intended that there would be a funding source to allow
Council to bring the parks back to at least the 50% level. He clarified that
the funding source was to be the savings on operations of the Diamond. He
noted that while the agreement is very close, it is not yet final. He stressed
that both sides want to assure that all of the details are taken care of, and
indicated that the substantive issues have now been dealt with. He explained
that the service level being discussed is a 50% level, which is more than has
been seen recently. He indicated that with regard to plumbing and electrical,
the approval should be on an as needed basis, rather than no allowance for
repairs. He suggested that with regard to irrigation, inspection should be
daily to allow for daily changes in weather and conditions. He indicated that
the other item to consider would be Park Capital Funds paid by the
developers; he noted that this can not be used for park maintenance, but could
be used to address capital items, such as approximately $54,000 for lights.
He suggested replacement of the lights at Lakepoint park, with the remaining
good bulbs being used for Terra Cotta Park.
Mayor Pro Tem Kelley suggested that with the Stadium Agreement continued
to the next meeting, she would also like this item continued; although she
would support the allocation of funds to replace lights and noted the existing
safety issues at Terra Cotta. She noted that the youth leagues have expressed
a desire to add their dollars for maintenance and help out with the parks. She
reiterated her thought that this should be continued to the next meeting.
Mayor Pape suggested that any action be made contingent on the Lease
Agreement being approved.
Councilman Alongi concurred with Mayor Pro Tem Kelley and stressed that
the money will come out of the reserves and open the parks for use. He
suggested that the longer we delay, the more it hurts youth teams and their
ability to make plans. He indicated that this item could be postponed and
whatever the decision on the agreement, the Council could still take another
direction to open the parks. He noted that he does not want to see them
closed permanently. He stressed that developments are still paying
assessments for the parks, and reiterated that this item should be postponed,
offering to second such a motion.
Councilwoman Brinley indicated that she would have no problem with
approval contingent upon the approval of the agreement; and if it does not go
through it will need to come back for further discussion.
MOVED BY BRINLEY, SECONDED BY PAPE TO APPROVE THE /
REALLOCATION OF $132,500 FROM THE STADIUM LEASE SAVINGS
FOR THE OPERATIONS AND MAINTENANCE OF THE CITY'S PARKS
FACILITIES AT A 50% LEVEL FOR THE BALANCE OF FISCAL YEAR
1997 -98, CONTINGENT UPON APPROVAL OF THE CONTRACT WITH
TMC FOR THE STADIUM LEASE; AND ALLOCATE $54,000 TO
REPLACE THE BULBS AT LAKEPOINT PARK, REUSE THE
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REMAINING BULBS AT TERRA COTTA AND ALLOT $5,000 PER
MONTH FOR JULY, AUGUST AND SEPTEMBER FOR ADDITIONAL
WATERING OF THE PARKS.
Councilman Metze requested clarification of the $5,000. Council clarified the
intent.
THE FOREGOING MOTION CARRIED BY A VOTE OF 4 TO 1 WITH
ALONGI CASTING THE DISSENTING VOTE.
Shirley Armstrong, 415 N. Lowell, indicated that she was present to disagree with
the remarks made by Councilman Alongi at the last meeting. She indicated that they
go back many years, and she has seen the good, the bad and the worst in him. She
further indicated that he had no business bringing she and her husband into the
discussion, commenting that it was cruel and unnecessary. She commented that
with regard to loving him like a brother, her husband did at one time; however after
he saw what George was becoming he did not agree. At that time he dissolved the
partnership in 1991, nand from them on Mr. Armstrong watched Mr. Alongi dig
himself deeper into dishonesty. She indicated that she resents the remark that she
put him in a nursing home not fit for sick animals; and questioned whether he ever
thinks before he speaks. She stressed the situation of trying to care for her husband,
and noted the comments that the Alongis were going to take them to their home,
clarifying that they did not have a bed for him. She indicated that Dexter passed
away the same day that he had asked that she not let Mr. Alongi take him to their
house, as he was afraid of what George would do. She commented on decency.
Virginia Rafno, 980 Park Way, noted how the cable TV bill is going up and
indicated it is getting ridiculous. She fiuther noted that her original monthly bill was
$13.36 and it is now $31.92. She suggested that there is a need for competition or a
choice to bring the prices down. She commented that some people can not get TV
reception with an antennae, and she does not like being gouged on the price.
Peter Dawson, 18010 Grand Avenue, indicated that he wanted to speak on Item 5 of
the Agenda which moved to the next meeting; but he would suggest a change to the
plan. He expressed concern with the proposed development and the area below
elevation 1267'. He suggested that before the Levee, no construction was
permissible in the back basin; noting that the project was originally sold on the basis
that the lower areas would be recreation areas. He expressed concern that some of
that recreation has been changed to housing units, and questioned the prudence of
constructing permanent housing units in the flood basin. He noted the potential for
flood events exceeding the 100 year level; and noted that the 100 year level was
reached in 1969, 1980, 1983, 1993 and 1995. He questioned whether there was
certainty that it would be safe and whether the flood channel would provide
adequate protection, particularly if the storms come too rapidly. He noted the
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flooding in Orange County last month and advised that they received seven inches
of rain in an eight hour period, which was deemed greater than a 500 year event and
possibly a 1,000 year event. He suggested if such a storm had come to this area,
this discussion would not be occurring and there would be no development
contemplated in the back basin. He questioned whether the Council was sure they
wanted to take such a risk.
Ace Vallejos, 15231 Cobre, commented that on January 22nd, Cleveland Ridge
was designated an unincorporated community. He noted a letter received on City
letterhead that opposed the project and questioned why tax dollars were used to
oppose the issue with no public discussion.
Chris. Hyland, 15191 Wavecrest informed the Council that each Councilmember
needs a copy of the Brown Act and a supplement; noting that there are many new
definitions as of January 1, 1998.
Leroy Tucker, 3532 Cherry Blossom Lane, noted that he came before the Council
several weeks ago; and later a representative of the Governor's office came out to
take a look at the Lake, during the fish kill. He commented that the squeaky wheel
gets the grease, but seems someone needs to be killed or maimed before action is
taken. He noted the recent death of Sonny Bono and his efforts to assist the Salton
Sea, which was followed by Newt Gingrich announcing that $100 million dollars
had been approved for the restoration of the Salton Sea. He suggested that they
should have held back some of that money for Lake Elsinore. He further suggested
that the City Council let the Governor know that the City is aware of the funding for
the Salton Sea and request funds for the Lake.
K
City Manager Watenpaugh announced to the public that a new Community
Development Director, Robert Brady, will be coming from the City of Cerritos
starting on February 18th. He looked forward to Mr. Brady joining the City team.
City Attorney Leibold announced that from the past Closed Session discussion there
was a settlement in the Spectrum Litigation. She noted that the original demand was
in excess of $2 million; and it has now settled for total of $155,000, with the City
paying $127,500 and the balance being paid by the Insurance Authority.
1e Is) 1110u0 104 9
Councilman Metze commented on the following:
1) Noted his enjoyment of the Auction and Hall of Fame Event and
complimented the Storm Team, Friends of the Library and Grad Night
Committee on a successful event. He looked forward to attending
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again next year.
Councilman Alongi commented on the following:
1) Addressed Mrs. Armstrong and indicated that his prior comments were
to her son, not her; and suggested that her son committed perjury and
he will not let him go.
2) Indicated that a Councilmember placed a news article in his mail and
responded that he will continue to fight until his money runs out or he
dies.
3) Apologized for missing the Student of the Month lunch today.
4) Indicated that with regard to the Mayor sending out letters, there was a
Study Session and concern was expressed by the Council with regard
to those letters. He noted a letter to the Water District and quoted the
letter. He indicated that he thinks the Water District has money and is
not broke. He suggested that the Mayor get consideration of Council
before sending out letters; noting that it was necessary to send a letter
in opposition to his letter on the LAFCO matter. He suggested that he
doesn't want to bother the people if they want a Community of Interest
to prevent being in the City. He indicated that it will be necessary for
the City to make friends in the surrounding area before they would
want to be part of the City. He stressed the need for control on the
County side of the Lake to make that side productive and improve it.
He suggested that the Mayor needed to take a few steps back, and
indicated this was another reason the community should elect the
Mayor directly.
5) Advised that with regard to TMC, he would like to see that project
proceed, but noted the comments by Mr. Dawson and noted the
approvals by other agencies which are still needed. He indicated that it
bothers him that staff time is being taken when there are still a
tremendous number of approvals required, noting the reduced staff and
the value of their time. He further indicated that they do not even have
a will serve letter from EVMWD yet.
6) Indicated that he does not care if there is contract with the ball field or
not; but the parks should be open anyway. He stressed that the
reserves of $2 million belong to the people , and questioned why the
negotiations are being dragged out, either they want the ball field or
not. He commented that it is very complicated wording to decide if
TMC will pick up the $400,000 in costs per year. He suggested that it
was not fair to the staff or the City Manager.
7) Indicated that he is going to put two items on the agenda regardless of
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what the Mayor says, being the West End Fire Station and Voting for
the Mayor. He noted that Mrs. Kelley made a big deal about him not
letting the people vote last June; and stressed that this can still be
placed on the June ballot, and save wasted efforts on collecting petition
signatures. He noted that with regard to the fire station the money is
in the bank, the economy is starting to move and the building costs will
skyrocket soon. He suggested that approval to build will give the City
about 18 months to figure out how to fund the staffing. He noted other
fire stations with volunteer services and suggested that his point was
proven by the other councilmembers insulting the volunteer fire
fighters. He stressed that the only difference is a paycheck.
8) Noted that Councilman Metze made a comment about Mr. Alongi
being the Titanic, but he will not sink. He indicated that he has not
made up his mind who will represent him, has an advisor at the time of
the trial, but noted that there are a lot of constitutional issues to
address. He indicated the he wants an attorney experienced in RDA
law; and noted that Mr. Orr does not understand RDA law.
9) Indicated that from now on he will not be saying anything to the
newspaper. All future statements will be from his Attorney Mr.
Atkinson,
Councilwoman Brinley commented on the following:
1) Thanked the Boy Scouts of Pack 30 for the presentation of colors, and
indicated that is was nice to have them do so.
2) Thanked Mr. Walsh for his report on the Transportation Now
Coalition, and thanked Joan Danfifer, at RTA, for her work.
3) Indicated that regarding COPS, out of the nine created by LAFCO, 5
have impacted Lake Elsinore; and there is a concern on which the
Council should take a position. She stressed that cities create spheres
of influence, and noted the past consensus of the City Council that the
Mayor should take the concerns to the LAFCO board. She indicated
that there are times that the City does need representation and the
Mayor is the one to do it. She stressed that the City still needs to look
at the legal side of the COI issue, and questioned whether COI's are
ever requested to provide a master plan for the Community and what
the timing is for infrastructure. She noted that the City receives a
number of calls from County residents requesting the City to respond
to Code Enforcement and Maintenance issues. She reiterated that she
would like to see them required to come back with a master plan. She
indicated that she appreciates the Mayor and City staff attending the
LAFCO meeting to keep the Council informed.
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4) Concurred that she wants to see all parks open for the community, but
needs to know where the money will come from. She stressed that the
parks need to be operated in a condition that is safe for the residents.
She expressed hopes that with the approval of the contract with TMC,
staff can get to work on the parks right away.
Mayor Pro Tem. Kelley commented on the following:
1) Concurred that the Council took a stand on COI's and the Mayor's
letter was very appropriate based on that action.
2) Indicated that with regard to the parks everyone wants them open, but
it would be fiscally unwise without a funding source.
3) Thanked Pack 30 for the presentation of colors.
4) Noted how wonderful the Hot Stove Event was and noted that the
Storm raised $8,800 at the auction to be divided between the Grad
Night Activities and the Friends of the Library. She commented that
the most expensive item went for $1,200 for a Nolan Ryan signed
baseball shirt. She looked forward to the event next year.
5) Advised that the Albertson's Market at Four Comers anticipates
starting construction the week of February 23rd, with the Grand
Opening in October of 1998.
Mayor Pape commented on the following:
1) Noted that he recently asked about Albertson and was glad for the
updated information.
2) Advised that the ARCO at Four Corners will open by next month, and
noted that they are in the process of moving the traffic signals to
complete the project.
3) Announced that Lake Chevrolet is anticipating opening the week of
February 9th.
4) Indicated that the Council has discussed and voted on a LAFCO
policy, but stressed the need to do what is in the best interest of the
City. He noted the concerns with the Sphere of Influence and noted
that all are welcome to attend the LAFCO meeting and express their
opinions.
5) Concurred with Mr. Tucker's comments on Lake funding. He noted
that it was unfortunate that it took Sonny's death to draw the funds
from the Government, but stressed that they were federal funds, not
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State funds. He indicated that the City is lobbying diligently at the
State level with the local representatives and a representative of the
Governor's Office, and due to the recent visit, they now think of the
problems with water quality and are working to assist the City.
6) Addressed the Water District letter and indicated that it was asking
them to work with the City and appear to be business friendly, to draw
business. He noted that he often receives comments about problems in
working with the Water District; and he had a couple of ideas he
thought he could sit down and discuss with them.
7) Indicated that the LAFCO letter had been addressed fairly well; noting
that Councilman Alongi was factually challenged. He indicated that
the public will hear a number of schemes until the trial is over. He
noted a recent article on fire station which are built and sit empty
because there is no money to staff them. He stressed that even a
volunteer station would cost about $250,000 a year. He commented
that it was not appropriate to play political games with public safety.
He noted Mr. Alongi's statement that the District Attorney does not
know anything about RDA law, the; threats against witnesses and the
treatment of the widow of a friend are not appropriate. He noted that
Mr. Alongi will be back in court next month, but an innocent man
generally tries to get things like this resolved quickly. He stressed that
the public will need to tolerate schemes and nonsense for the next few
meetings.
CLOSED SESSION
a. Conference with Labor Negotiator - LIUNA 777 (Pursuant to Government
Code Section 54957.6).
THE REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING WAS ADJOURNED TO
CLOSED SESSION TO DISCUSS THE ABOVE LISTED ITEMS AT 8:25
P.M.
THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING RECONVENED AT 9:50 P.M. NO
ACTION TAKEN.
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MOVED BY METZE, SECONDED BY PAPS CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO ADJOURN THE R GULAR CITY COUNCIL
MEETING AT 9:50 P.M.
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KEVIN W. P E, MAYOR
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REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
183 NORTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA
TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 10, 1998
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The Regular City Council Meeting was called to order by Mayor Pape at 7:05 p.m.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Councilman Metze.
The Invocation was provided by Father Ben Orozco representing St. Andrews
Episcopal Church.
PRESENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: ALONGI, BRINLEY,
KELLEY, METZE, PAPE
ABSENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: NONE
Also present were: City Manager Watenpaugh, City Attorney Leibold,
Administrative Services Director Boone, Community Services Director Sapp,
Fire Chief Seabert, Police Chief Walsh, City Engineer O'Donnell, Building &
Safety Manager Russell, Senior Planner Villa, Assistant to the City Manager
Best and City Clerk Kasad.
PRESENTATIONS
Mayor Pape noted the presence of Chamber of Commerce representative, Larry
Regis, for a Chamber update. Mr. Regis detailed upcoming meetings for business
development and the "Connections" television show by the Economic Development
Committee. He advised that the next Mixer will be at Chuckles Java Junction on
February 26th. He further advised that on March 1st they will begin anew joint
venture with the Downtown Merchants and City support, being an Open Air
Market. He encouraged public participation. (F:108.4)
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Requests were received to address Item No. 21 and deferred to that public hearing.
Mayor Pape advised that the Council would need to go directly into the
Redevelopment Agency Meeting which would begin with a short Closed Session.
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THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING WAS RECESSED AT 7:40 P.M.
THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING RECONVENED AT 8:31 P.M.
MOVED BY BRINLEY, SECONDED BY KELLEY AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR AS
PRESENTED.
1. The following Minutes were approved:
(FA4.4)
a. Joint City Council/Planning Commission Meeting - January 6, 1998.
b. Regular City Council Meeting - January 13, 1998. (F:44.4)
The following Minutes were received and ordered filed:
C. Planning Commission Meeting - January 21, 1998. (F:60.3)
d. Special Design Review Committee Meeting - January 13, 1998.
e. Design Review Committee Meeting - January 21, 1998. (F:60.4)
2. Ratified Warrant List for January 30, 1998. (F:12.3)
3. Received and ordered filed the following Investment Reports:
a. Corrected for November, 1997.
b. December, 1997. (F:12.5)
21. Amendment No. I to East Lake Specifie, Plan and Addend= EIR - Libaly
(TMIC Communities), Resolution No. 98-3 & QEdinance No. 1031 (F: 150.2)
y City Manager Watenpaugh highlighted the Planning Commission action on
this item, and noted the acreage involved in this amendment.
Mayor Pape opened the public hearing Lt 8:33 p.m., asking those persons
interested in this item to speak. The fo'_'_owing people spoke:
Todd Olson, TMC Communities, expressed happiness at bringing this
Specific Plan Amendment forward to Council. He advised that the consulting
and development team is present for presentations and to respond to
questions. He noted that he is very. prov d of the team assembled and
indicated that they are well sait°d for th—, task at hand. He indicated that they
search nationally to find the best comp anents for the team. He addressed the
financial strength of TMC Properties and noted that they have submitted
letters from two banks showing over $9 million in cash
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assets. He noted comments with regard the Redevelopment Agency
financing this project and indicated that this project does not take any
Redevelopment Agency funds not generated specifically by this project. He
further clarified that the only RDA related funding will be from Tax
Increment or additional property taxes generated by the site. He noted that
they are reimbursing the City for the costs of plan review through the City's
cost recovery program. He further noted that they have had good discussions
with Larry Noggle at the Skylark Airport and are in agreement that Village
One is compatible with the ongoing Skylark Airport use and they will work
closely together to ensure that a compatible situation continues. Mr. Olson
introduced Steve Ross to discuss the substance of the Specific Plan.
Steve Ross, the Planning Center, Newport Beach, indicated that the Specific
Plan was originally approved in 1993 and show a graphic depiction of the
originally approved plan versus the proposed amendment. He emphasized
that the portion being amended is just under 800 acres in the central portion
of the plan. He noted that the key changes are a reduction in development
area and overall unit count reduction of approximately 1,000 homes from
previously approved plan. He also noted that the Stadium is now shown on
the plan. He further noted that the amount of open space has been more than
doubled. He detailed proposed changes to the future alignment of Diamond
Drive and explained that the intent was to provide adequate access to
commercial and residential areas. He emphasized that the proposed
amendment does not modify any of the park policies or regulations of the
original specific plan, including the regional and local trail requirements. Mr.
Ross introduced Allen Swanson to address the flood control issues.
Alan Swanson, John M. Tettemer and Associates, flood control consultants
for the project, clarified that no construction can take place without a detailed
hydraulic analysis. He stressed the need for certain flood storage capacity to
be reserved and cannot impact the 100 year flood level. He fiuther stressed
that the project must receive written approval from the Riverside County
Flood Control District, the Army Corps of Engineers, Elsinore Valley
Municipal Water District and the City of Lake Elsinore. He indicated that
the project has been submitted and it is currently under review. He further
indicated that they are convinced that the development can safely occur and
meet state and federal standards. He reiterated that the amendment as
proposed in no way alters the requirements in the original specific plan with
regard to flood control requirements. Mr. Swanson introduced Susan Hori.
Susan Hori, representing Paone, Callahan, McHohn & Winton, noted the
prior discussion of flood storage issues and advised that the Corps of
Engineers has already issued a 404 permit for the back basin areas. She
noted that there are specific conditions regarding the studies required for
development. She stressed that in addition to City approvals the project must
also comply with 404 permit conditions. She noted a recent letter from the
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Corps of Engineers, regarding a misunderstanding on the status of activity on
this project. She indicated that they are working to clarify that
misunderstanding. She stressed that the actions tonight do not change the
conditions of the 404 permit or the obligations to comply with the
requirements. Ms. Hori introduced Scott Wilson.
Scott Wilson, representing the Keith Companies, addressed traffic for the
project and noted that the Specific Plan Amendment and E.I.R. Addendum
includes a traffic analysis for the project. He reiterated that there are no
additional impacts from this amendment. He also addressed the soils issues
with regard to conditions for grading and the liquefaction potential for the
project; and indicated that the most recent soils information show that the site
has low liquefaction.
Todd Olson thanked his project team and the City staff for their work to take
this amendment through the process. He indicated that everyone has worked
very hard to get to this point, and advised that they will next be submitting a
tentative tract map in two weeks, with City Council review expected to occur
in about April. He noted that during this review process they will also be
working with staff to obtain the required grading permit. He explained that
if all goes well the remaining state and federal issues will be completed
shortly thereafter.
Larry Regis, 148 S. Main Street, representing the Executive Committee of the
Chamber of Commerce, indicated that the Committee has viewed some of the
project materials, met with City staff and arrived at some basic conclusions.
Those conclusions are that it reduces the density of housing in the proposed
area, provides greater open space and recreation, and they are very
comfortable with the concept being employed for development of the areas
within the project. He indicated that it fits with goal to remain an open city
with quaint housing, and draw jobs and economy to the area. He commented
that TMC has done a tremendous job in finding something to fit with the
Community and the long range plans. He indicated that they are impressed
by the professionalism of the TMC staff and their efforts to find the best
consultants for the plan. He advised that the Committee wholeheartedly
supports the plan and amendment.
Chris Hyland, 15191 Wavecrest, indicated that something about this situation
smells like a dead fish, indicating that it has been a dog and pony show since
1990. She noted that 99% of the documents indicate that the project is
within the Redevelopment Agency and questioned why it appears on the City
Council agenda rather than the Redevelopment Agency agenda. She
reiterated her prior comments that the RDA will be abolished in the near
future. She also noted that the City has been targeted for an audit with
regard to improprieties for bond sales; and indicated that she would not be
surprised if the Securities and Exchange Commission steps in for an audit.
She further questioned whether this was Redevelopment Agency or City and
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whether documents have been changed. She further questioned, in the event
this is an RDA project, what would happen if the RDA is abolished under the
McClintock Bill, and whether it would revert to the City. She indicated that
this item did not mention the Water District, and they will not give TMC
water or anything else. She suggested that each Councilmember read
Government Code Section 53600.3, and indicated that they are not infallible.
She inquired whether TMC was paying for RDA staff time.
Peter Dawson, 18010 Grand Avenue, indicated that he stands opposed to the
thoughts of other present tonight, but he is not opposed to development. He
further indicated that he is convinced that construction of housing units in the
back basin is not a good thing, as there are too few safety assurances. He
expressed concern that the 100 year flood protection is based on only 78
years of history. He also expressed concern with the Elsinore Fault zone
running through the area. He noted that the same fault destroyed much of the
town of Whittier just 10 years ago. He fiuther noted that the current plan is
to build on silt, while the original plan call for other material. He requested
that the Council make absolutely sure that this project is safe from flooding
and liquefaction. He further requested the addition of verbiage that under no
condition will the storage capacity be diminished; and future residents will be
notified of these factors.
Carl Johnson, Nearcal Corporation, indicated that he is pro - development
because he is a contractor. He further indicated that he is in favor of the
project because it is the highest and best use for the land, will raise land
values, and most importantly will pull the City toward more of a resort
atmosphere, which is the direction it should go.
Chris McColley, 29072 Palm View, indicated that due to the publicized
controversy, she and others met with TMC to discuss this - project. She
thanked the representatives of the project for their time and indicated that
they have shown a sincere desire to address the residents' concerns. She
commented that Liberty appears to be a high quality master planned
community, which will produce increased income for the City through
property taxes and entertainment facilities. She noted that although originally
approved in 1993, she feels the amendment reflects significant improvements.
She further noted that the R-4 zoned residential areas have been completely
eliminated. She addressed the concern with Liberty building in the back
basin and stressed the required involvement of the Corps of Engineers. She
indicated that with regard to the comments that the City is putting up money
for the project, she has questioned both sides and received a resounding "no"
from each. She noted the losses of revenue in recent years and stressed that
TMC has gathered a team of experts to develop a quality proposal. She
stressed the interest shown by the developer to interact with the residents.
She stressed the fiscal responsibility of this action and expressed support for
the amendment.
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John Langton, 34200 Racquet Club Way, questioned whether the taxpayers
will have to pay when the houses start to sink, and noted a problem in
Anaheim Hills. He express -.d cony -rn 1v'*h the earthquake fault in the area.
Larry Noggle, representing Skyl -k A� x ^rt, indicated that he had a great
meeting with the applicant, and th.y v+ill ;hut together a joint report on the
requirements of Skylark Airport. K-, rt vieed that he feels good in supporting
phase I, even though there is st;1! a lot of -:work to be done before phases two
through four. He stressed that Mr. Olsen is working in good faith to
overcome the obstacles and address his concerns for the airport and skydiving
activities. He noted that h. is trying to draw a world event to the Airport in
2001. He looked forward to working with the TMC staff to prepare the
previously mentioned report. He expressed support for the proposed
amendment.
Hearing no additional requests to speak, the public hearing was closed at 9:05
p.m.
Mayor Pape requested clarification as to why this was being heard by the
City rather than the Redevelopment Agency. City Attorney Leibold clarified
that the City exercises the power on land use actions, and this is strictly a
land use issue. She explained that if the Agency should be abolished, the
City inherits the projects by operation of law. She advised that TMC is
paying City staff and City Attorney costs for processing of this amendment.
She further clarified that there are Redevelopment Agency agreements
relative to this project, but this is the Specific Plan Amendment.
Mayor Pape noted the Water -District issues mentioned by Mrs. Hyland and
indicated that he met with Water District representatives this date and Mr.
Olsen yesterday and both, are now in agreement that there is an existing
contract and the arrangements are per the original Specific Plan: making that
a non - issue.
Mayor Pape noted the concern expressed with regard to houses sinking in silt
or with liquefaction. Scott Wilson, representing the Keith Companies,
stressed that the Specific Plan sets forth conditions based on the soils reports
prepared since 1993. He indicated with regard to liquefaction and fault
zones, the required setbacks will be conditioned and the liquefaction potential
will be determined. He reiterated that the latest reports say that there is a low
liquefaction potential for this project.
Mayor Pape addressed the airport and skydiving, and stressed that it is a part
of the history and charm of the area and a lot of fun to watch.
City Manager Watenpaugh noted the issue of storage capacity in the back
basin and indicated that would be controlled by the flood control agency.
Mr. Swanson, representing John Tettemer & Associates, confirmed that the
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project will be subject to the requirements of the Flood Control District, as
they are the regulator and standard setter for projects such as this. He
clarified that with regard to storage capacity, they will go through all the
required steps and meet all requirements of FEMA as well.
Mayor Pape reiterated that the Specific Plan is already approved and this is
only an amendment to that plan. He clarified that this project seeks to build
a City within a City and stressed the need for good master planning. He
noted that the housing count reduction of 1,000 homes is very positive for the
City and the increase open space is also very positive. He commented that
the concept for phase I is very unique for Southern California, and noted that
this upscale development will draw a great deal of attention.
Councilman Alongi indicated that one thing he learned is that you should not
play in someone's back yard unless you know the rules. He explained that his
concern is not whether they can build the project, but expressed concern for
public safety. He indicated that there is nothing for a fire station and
expressed concern with coverage when the response times to the west end
average 18 minutes. He inquired whether the homes will be built before the
commercial. Mr. Olson indicated that there will be a moderate amount of
commercial in conjunction with the first homes. Mr. Alongi questioned how
many homes will be in the first phase. Mr. Olson indicated they will build
300 -500 homes per year. Mr. Alongi stressed that there is no fire protection
plan for that area. Mr. Olson indicated that the Development Agreement as a
whole does require fire protection. Mr. Ross indicated that the plan
establishes fire, police and other public service requirements, on the per
thousand residents basis. He stressed that the original plan requires
consultation with police, fire and schools at the time of each tract map
consideration. He stressed that the conditions are in place. Mr. Alongi
indicated that there are no provisions in the first phase for any police or fire
services.
Councilman Alongi indicated that the Redevelopment Agency will be
discussing this project, and the RDA is kicking in funds through tax
increment and property taxes in the area. He indicated the comments were
somewhat misleading as the RDA will participate in this project. He inquired
whether the golf course would be included in the first phase. Mr. Olson
confirmed that there is one in the first phase. Mr. Alongi inquired whether it
would go in during or after the construction of the houses. Mr. Olson
indicated that they will be built at the same time.
Mayor Pro Tern Kelley noted that the original plan was not very desirable at
all and this is a lot more desirable. She stressed the cut in residential units
from 2900 to 1800, which is a lot more inviting and desirable. She noted the
mitigations required by the Planning Commission and the conditions placed
on them and detailed the permitting agency approvals required. She
expressed amazement and concern with the number mitigations to be
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satisfied. She advised that she is happy with the conditions, but suggested
the inclusion of verbiage regarding the Airport, noting that she was glad to
see them working together. She stressed the importance of protecting the
airport. She commented that with regard to fire, streets and schools those
will be addressed with the tentative maps, and stressed that this is only the
zoning issue this evening. She reiterated that she is a lot happier with the
amendment plan than the original one.
Mayor Pape commented that it will b; exciting to see tract maps in a couple
of months.
Councilwoman Brinley reiterated that no money from the RDA going into this
project and stressed that the original plan was done several years ago. She
requested clarification of the funding and infrastructure funding. City
Manager Watenpaugh clarified that there are no direct City or RDA dollars
to this project. He indicated that there has been a Development Agreement
in place since 1993 and the tax increment and potential for bonding are
included in that document. Mrs. Erinley questioned who would pay for a
Community Facilities District. Mr. Natenpaugh clarified it would be the
applicant. Mrs. Brinley indicated that she was glad to see that the project
was downsized and reformulated. She expressed excitement in anticipation
of the second phase discussion. ShP indicated that she likes the overall
theme and noted the different streetscanes, canals, islands and estate homes.
She concurred that it would have the feeling of a City within a City, and noted
that it was a progressive apnroaph to Q,)-eific plans. She stressed the
importance of continued communication between the developer and the
airport represcn *atives. Slit in 1;_.^`e . that working with TMC has been
professional to date and loo!:Prl f r ,i2r a ;o continued cooperation.
Mayor Pape expressed app *Pei °tio -_ t- TT.!C for answering the questions.
Councilman Metze concurred vr`- th; ^t`ier Councihnembers that this was an
improvement over what was - pproved. He noted that he has a pet
peeve regarding old developm—mt agrT,=°nts. He expressed concern that
the project could revert to the c!d K2r_, cnd €uggested the addition of verbiage
requiring compliance with the then maircmt City of Lake Elsinore General
Plan. He stressed that he wants to mace sure that the current standards are
being met at build out. He noted that in fivo places there is similar verbiage
and suggested an additional condition using "current" plans, etc. City
Attorney Leibold suggested fiat current could be specified in reference to the
General Plan or Municipal Code, bA sh3,Jd be subject to any provision in the
development agreement reW ring otherwise. Mr. Metze expressed
understanding that this was an old development agreement. Mr. Olson
clarified that the Development Agreement was not being amended by this
action. Mr. Metze reiterated his concerns and intent to require that current
standards at the time of construction are met. -Mr. Olson expressed
understanding of this concern. Ms. Hori clarified that when something is not
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specifically addressed one would look to the current general plan.
MOVED BY BRINLEY, SECONDED BY PAPE TO APPROVE
AMENDMENT NO. 1 TO THE EAST LAKE SPECIFIC PLAN BY
ADOPTION OF ORDINANCE NO. 1035 UPON SECOND READING BY
TITLE ONLY AND APPROVE THE ADDENDUM TO THE 1993 t
CERTIFIED FINAL EIR FOR THE EAST LAKE SPECIFIC PLAN BY
ADOPTION OF RESOLUTION NO. 98-3, BASED ON THE FOLLOWING
FINDINGS AND SUBJECT TO THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS OF
APPROVAL, WITH CONDITION TWO AMENDED BY THE ADDITION
OF "...IN EFFECT AT THE TIME SHALL PREVAIL... "; AND THE
REQUIREMENT THAT THE TMC WILL CONTINUE OPEN
COMMUNICATION WITH SKYLARK AIRPORT.
RESOLUTION NO. 98-3
A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA CERTIFYING THE ADDENDUM,
TO THE FINAL ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT FOR THE
EAST LAKE SPECIFIC PLAN - LIBERTY (TMC COMMUNITIES).
ORDINANCE NO. 1035 -
AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA, ADOPTING THE EAST LAKE
SPECIFIC PLAN AMENDMENT NO. 1.
UPON THE FOLLOWING ROLL CALL VOTE:
AYES: COUNCILMEMBERS: ALONGI, BRINLEY,
KELLEY, METZE, PAPE
NOES: COUNCILMEMBERS: NONE
ABSENT: COUNCILMEMBERS; NONE
ABSTAIN: COUNCILMEMBERS: NONE
1. SPA No. 1 meets the City's Specific Plan criteria for content and required
implementation of the general plan established by Section 65450 et sea. of
the California Government Code and Section 17.99 of the City of Lake
Elsinore Municipal Code.
2. SPA No. 1 is consistent with the Goals, Policies and Objectives of the
General Plan; and Redevelopment Plans, and with other applicable plans or
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policies adopted by the City
3. Development standards and regulations contained in SPA No. 1 supersede
applicable City ordinances and codes, unless specifically stated to the
contrary. Approval of SPA No. 1 shall not be interpreted as waiving
compliance with other Federal or State laws or City Codes.
4. Location of SPA No. 1 allows future development to be well- integrated with
its surroundings.
5. All vehicular traffic generated by future development, either in phased
increments or at full build- out, will be accommodated safely and without
causing undue congestion upon adjoining streets.
6. Except as limited by State law, including SB 1287, SPA NO. 1 provides plans
which allow land uses to be adequately serviced by existing or proposed
public facilities and services.
7. Overall design of SPA NO. 1 will produce attractive, efficient and stable
development.
8. SPA NO. 1 will not be detrimental to the health, safety, comfort or general
welfare of the persons residing or working within the City, nor will it be
injurious to property or improvements in the project area or within the City.
•noMM- a M.
1. The Addendum EIR has been prepared, submitted and reviewed in
accordance with requirements of the California Environmental Quality Act
and the City's CEQA guidelines, and is complete and adequate in its
evaluation of all environmental effects of SPA No. 1 and associated
discretionary approvals.
2. SPA No. 1 will not degrade the quality of the environment, substantially
reduce fish habitat or wildlife species, cause fish or wildlife population to
drop, threaten plant or animal communities, reduce or restrict the range of
rare or endangered plant or animal species, or eliminate important cultural
resources.
3. SPA No. 1 will not have the potential to achieve short-term goals to the
disadvantage of long -term environmental goals.
4. SPA No. 1 will not have impacts which are individually limited by
cumulatively considerable.
5. SPA No. 1 will not have environmental effects which cause substantial
adverse effects on people.
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1. The Draft SPA No. 1 document shall be revised to incorporate any
corrections and revisions required by the Planning Commission and City
Council. A Final Specific Plan Amendment document shall be submitted
for review and approval by the Community Development Director or his
designee within 5 days of approval by the City Council. No permit shall
be issued until the Specific Plan Amendment No. 1 document and any
required revisions are administratively approved by the Community
Development Director or his designee.
2. Those issues, standards, guidelines, etc. not addressed in SPA No. 1 will
revert to the East Lake Specific Plan. In cases where the East Lake
Specific Plan and SPA No. 1 document do not provide appropriate
guidance or discussion, then the City of Lake Elsinore General Plan and
Municipal Code in affect at that time shall prevail.
3. Any development within SPA No. 1 and any other area within the East
Lake area below 1,260 feet MSL shall comply with conditions of the 404
Levee Permit. Conditions of the permit shall require dedications for
conservation purposes, further analyses, and clearances from the Riverside
County Flood Control District, Water Conservation District, U.S. Army
Corps of Engineers, Riverside County, and the City of Lake Elsinore
Engineering Department, all as set forth in the 404 Levee Permit.
Construction within the SPA No. 1 site may also require a Section 401
Water Quality Certification from the Santa Ana Regional Water Quality
Board and issuance of a conditional letter of revision to the existing Flood
Insurance Rate Map (FIRM) from the applicant.
4. Any tentative tract map, which includes proposed Restricted Local Streets
shall be approved by the City Council of the City of Lake Elsinore.
5. The Diamond Drive realignment at Malaga Road shall provide southbound
dual right -turn lanes and eastbound dual left -turn lanes at East Malaga
Road at Diamond Drive; and westbound dual left -turn lanes and
northbound dual right -turn lanes at West Malaga Road at Diamond Drive.
These intersections shall be signalized, or shall incorporate other controls.
6. All public street sections shall have either pedestrian walking area or
sidewalks, with a minimum width of five feet, unless otherwise approved
by the Community Development Director or designee.
7. Prior to first tentative tract map for each phase, the applicant shall provide
the City with a phased circulation plan for onsite and offsite improvements
for that phase.
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8. Applicants shall acquire necessary approvals, clearances, and permits for
future development, including Design Review approval, issuance of
grading and building permits, and other provisions of the City's Municipal
Code.
9. All standards and guidelines pertaining to the project's land use plan,
circulation plan, grading plan, public services and utilities plan, design
guidelines, and phasing plan shall be substantially complied with to the
greatest extent feasible.
10. Applicants shall implement those mitigation measures contained in the
1993 certified Final EIR for the East Lake Specific Plan and the Addendum
EIR for SPA No. 1, Liberty.
11. Prior to issuance of any grading permit, Applicants shall submit a final
grading plan, subject to all requirements of the City Grading Ordinance,
and a geotechnical report to the City Engineer for approval.
12. The SPA No. 1 document shall be revised to indicate that future Design
Review shall be reviewed and approved by the Planning Commission as a
business item and not a public hearing.
13. Concurrent with approval of the first Type "A" Tentative Tract Map for
SPA No. 1, the applicant shall prepare a Conceptual Phasing,
Improvement, and Financing Plan. Said plan shall describe all on -and
offsite roadway and utility improvements necessary to service ultimate
build out of SPA No. 1. Said plan shall also describe when the
improvements will be provided and recommend feasible funding
mechanisms and sources.
22. Public Hearine on Local Law Enforcement Block Grant Pro2rarn
City Manager Watenpaugh highlighted the report and advised that these funds
were received through the efforts of Police Chief Walsh. He explained that a
condition of the grant is to hold a public hearing and an advisory board has
already been appointed. He indicated that the funds are being used for
additional police department overtime.
Mayor Pape opened the public hearing at 9:35 p.m., asking those persons
interested in this item to speak. Hearing no one, the public hearing was
closed at 9:35 p.m.
MOVED BY KELLEY, SECONDED BY BRINLEY AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO APPROVE THE USE OF THE GRANT FUNDS
AS RECOMMENDED BY THE ADVISORY BOARD.
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THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING WAS RECESSED AT 9:36 P.M.
THE CITY COUNCIL RECONVENED AT 9:38 P.M.
PUBLIC COMMENTS - NON-AGENDIZED ITEMS
David Armstrong, 415 N. Lowell, criticized Councilman Alongi for leaving the
table. He made note of Councilman Alongi's threats and his criticism of himself, his
mother and family and stated that it is time for it to stop. He commented that if
Councilman Alongi wants to communicate with them he knows where he lives. He
stated that three weeks ago Councilman Alongi called him an idiot and asked if
Councilman Alongi has a Bachelors Degree. Noted a tape that Councilman Alongi
played which contained foul language and did so with Boy Scouts present. Further
noted that he has six messages from Councilman Alongi on his message machine
that contain foul language and the District Attorney has the tape. Mr. Armstrong
noted the payment of his child support and Councilman Alongi stated that he was
not. He stressed that anyone that testified at the Grand Jury has been threatened by
Councilman Alongi and stated that those persons can go to the Police Department
and file charges. He commented on the 16 counts of the Redevelopment Agency
system and he is not the one that has $13,000 pending against him and now he has
threat charges, and asked "who's the idiot ".
Mayor Pape made note of the fact that Ms. Murray has submitted a letter of
congratulations and appreciation to the Council and has quite a few signatures.
Georgia Lee Murray, President of AARP Chapter 4056, read the letter from the
Seniors to Council. She announced that they will be having a Valentine's Day Party
on the 20th of February and invited all of Council. Announced Church Services at
the Grand Avenue Civic Center. She commented that she has lived and raised her
family in Lake Elsinore for the last 33 years and gave an overview of her children.
Mary Venerable, 27400 3rd Street, addressed a letter in the newspaper from Chris
Hyland and questioned her statements. She stated that she does agree with the
statement in the letter which states that management cannot function without labor
and was one of the reasons that she tries to inform people about Measure BB, unlike
Ms. Hyland who opposed the measure. She addressed the Community Services
Director's position and her approval. She stated that the persons who through that
there was no tourism in the City, were so busy "bad mouthing" the City they did not
look. She noted the contradictory statements in the letter.
John Langdon, 32400 Racquet Club, stated that he is present to represent Serenity
Homeowners regarding the motocross that was approve by the Planning
Commission. He stated the property owners opposition to this project.
Donna Lucas, 132 N. Main Street, announced that the Downtown Merchants, the
Chamber of Commerce and the City of Lake Elsinore invite all of citizens to an
open air market the first Sunday of every month on Main Street, noting that the first
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one will be on March 1, starting at 7 :00 a.m. She gave an overview of the planned
activities. Thanked Vision and Views for the exposure of the Downtown area and
noted that it was a great success.
Mayor Pape stated that he talked with Tom Thomas and noted that 74 spaces were
sold already for the Street Faire.
Chris Hyland, 15191 Wavecrest Drive, address addressed objections to Mary
Venerable's comments. Noted that the parks and community center have been
closed; the boat dock has collapsed; the State Park is closed; a City full of pot holes.
She stated that in her interview with the employees she stated that the workers
should not have been laid off, but rather the management. She stated that she was
sick and tired of Ms. Venerable's comments and she guessed that she would have to
check on her next.
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Thanked Administrative Services Director and Community Services Director for all
their hard work and support of the City Attorney regarding TMC and the Stadium
Contract.
Noted that the Recreation and Tourism Manager Edelbrock has been at a boat show
all week with one of the local boat sales representatives and she was promoting the
community.
Made a request to add one additional item to Closed Session under anticipated
litigation, but deferred until after Council Comments.
Councilman Alongi commented on the following:
1. Noted that the Redevelopment Agency purchased 80 acres in the Eastlake
and for $3,000,000 and asked the public to see what the City sells it for and
then tell him the RDA did not contribute. He commented that City Manager
Watenpaugh said that there would be no direct dollars from the RDA,
however he did not say that there wouldn't be any contribution. There is a
difference.
2. Commented that the Stadium is not out of debt, the Stadium still has
payments of $2.5 million dollars. He stated that Council did make a good
move saving the $500,000, however it is still costing the public $2.5 million
dollars a year, both RDA and City debt.
3. Addressed the Motocross Park and stated that the City must be careful where
we place those activities. He stated that he felt we havei plenty of land and
mountains in the City to place this activity other than next door to a tract. He
noted that they have the airport next to them and that should be enough.
4. Stated that last meeting Council discussed the COI and every Councilperson
said that we voted on it, however in the minutes the motion reads "Moved by
Brinley, Seconded by Metze that the City Council establish a majority
position with respect to the proposed Warm Springs Community of Interest ".
He noted that this motion did not include the other COI's. He stated that
Council has never taken formal action, across the board, for opposing COI's
that are in our Sphere of Influence. He established that he does not
necessarily disagree with it, however if the Mayor chooses to send out letters
to that effect, he needs to be sure that he has formal approval to do so. He
stated that the fact is Council never voted on it.
5. Noted Concern with Fire Station. He stated that talking with Fire Chief in
private and talking with him in public is two different things, and although we
all agree that we would like to have the Station manned 100 %, however that
is not the case since we cannot afford it. He stated that 40% of the time is
better than nothing and to have an ambulance out there housed in the building
would be a great asset to those people out there. He noted that responding
times to that area are really bad and especially if there is a child choking or a
heart attack, every second, every minute counts. He noted that the calls that
come out of those stations for 1996: Station 10, 413 fire calls, 1,757 medical
calls which is almost 4 times the fire calls which says that there are some
children in distress or elderly needing medical attention; Station 11, 173 fire
calls, 1,023 medical calls and the response time of the Lakeland Station is 18
minutes. He asked how someone would feel if their child was choking and it
took 18 minutes to respond. He stressed that it was important to get the Fire
Station built even with 40% or 50% coverage it is more than they have now.
He stated that if Council has to take the money out of the reserves, now that
the Stadium Agreement has been approved, and Council is not going to give it
all to the parks then some of the money could be used for manning the Fire
Station which is important. Now Council needs to sit down as business
people and see how it can be done whether it 40% or more. He commented
that the Chief likes that and although he would like to have all paid fire
personnel it is not possible. He indicated that the fire truck is still available;
rent space in the Fire Station for Goodhue Ambulance. He stated that this is
an issue that should not be kicked around and handled as professional
business men. He noted that the City could use the County's plans for a Fire
Station, and although it is not as fancy as the City would design it would not
require all of the extra costs.
6. Commented that more people worry about his legal problems and want to talk
about them. He further commented than he does not worry about them and
sleeps at night very well. He noted that he did something in his community;
he had the backbone to do it; and you have to pay a price sometimes when
you step out of line. He stated that he is paying the price and he is not
complaining about it however, it bothers him when he picks up the Sun
Tribune and the Press Enterprise as well, an d someone informs him that he is
in the paper again and that the City is going after him for $13,000. He quoted
from the article regarding the City Manager delivering a letter and he talked
to the City Manager and he did not tell this to the paper. He asked where the
newspaper got this information and asked if they had talked to the Mayor or
perhaps Councilman Metze. He asked who had told them that information
and they print what ever in the hell they want to print in the paper, whether it
is true or not. He stated that he has a good idea who did, however the fact is
that they did not even bother to consult the City Attorney and get a legal
opinion prior to sending him that demand. He commented that they should
have checked this out and it will be a cold day in hell before the City collects
a nickel on that. He further commented that if the Mayor wants to spend a
couple of thousand dollars or more he would be more than happy to put him
on the line. He stated that let's see how much the City wants to spend to
collect something they can't get.
7. Addressed the Editorial from the Sun Tribune which gets into people's
personal lives. He stated that it's none of their damn business; his
relationship with anyone in this town; Armstrong's or anyone else. He stated
it is none of their damn business or anyone else's damn business, but his and
the other persons.
8. Indicated that the Council can take the demand and shove it where the sun
don't shine and the rest of the crap they come up with. He stated that is why
they let him go first, that way they can respond.
9. Stated that he was going to go home early, now the City Attorney wants a
Closed Session.
10. Stated that the Stadium is really a white elephant and noted that the Council
really worked hard and its the first time since he has been on Council in the
last six and one half years that they have really worked together to get
something done. He commented that he is happy about that, because that is
the only thing that he has been a part of. He noted that he did not like it,
however it will accomplish something for the City. He stated that he hopes
that TMC lives up to their part of the bargain.
11. He noted an article in the Press Enterprise and stated that it is amazing that
when they don't want to get in touch with him, he is unavailable. He stated
that he is the only guy listed in the book and hell, the D.A. knows where he is
all of the time and they even served papers on him where he has lunch and
noted that the newspaper can't even find him. He stated that his wife would
have told them where he was. He noted that they had the same story about
the demand. He commented that the next day after it appeared in the paper,
he received it in the mail. He stated that it contained a copy of the letter that
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he signed with John Harper. He noted that he has been saying all along that
he doesn't need this City Council or his position on this Council to get
anything done in his private life. He stated that he has been doing it for 42
years and he does not need their help, the City's help, the County, State or
Federal Government's help or any damn bank. He stated that he works his
ass off and accomplish things and he doesn't give a damn what the
Armstrong's have to say at that podium. He stated that he will deal with the
Armstrong's with his attorney, that's how he will do his business.
He addressed Mrs. Armstrong and told her that he left the table at the advise
of his attorney. He stated that he let him handle it. He stressed that is the
first time he has walked away from anyone. Mayor Pape asked Mrs.
Armstrong not to interrupt.
Councilman Alongi stated that we will see who's a coward Shirley. He
further stated that he felt that she was a damn fool to even do this, however
that's your choosing, not mine. He cautioned that she would find another side
of him one day, that I have never exposed for 30 years, but I'm going to do it
here. He noted that his wife will probably divorce him; but, that's it and he
has taken enough shit from all of them.
Mayor Pape cautioned Councilman Alongi to please watch his language.
Councilman Alongi cautioned Mayor Pape to leave him alone. He stated
"you understand Pape ". Mayor Pape stated that he was just asking him for a
little decorum and a little professionalism. Councilman Alongi stated "Bull-
shit "; there I said it again, free speech. He stated if you don't like it get him
recalled; if you don't like it get him off of this Council; you try to do it; in
1999 he is going to run. A member of the audience stated that this is the first
time that he has attended a Council Meeting and he came to the Meeting
because he had a problem; he did not attend to listen to Councilman Alongi's
profanity. Councilman Alongi stated "that is the way it is ". He noted that
when you have to walk in my shoes, then stand up and say what you have to
say. Councilwoman Brinley noted to the audience that the rest of Council
does not conduct themselves in the same way. Councilman Alongi stated
"absolutely not, you are so wonderful". Councilwoman Brinley stated that
Councilman Alongi should be removed. Councilman Alongi stated that
absolutely brother, when you stand in my shoes for the last four years; then
stand up and say what you have to say. Mayor Pape asked for no more
comments from the audience. Councilman Alongi stated that it is absolutely
wrong, and it is wrong and he agrees with the audience. He stated that they
pick on him to go first and he really doesn't give a damn; first, last or
otherwise. He noted that the fact is that they manipulate you out there with
the information that they give you, just like the Liberty program. He stated
that it is a good development and if they can do it, he thought they should do
it; have at it; he would love to see something in our community; but, don't
give him the bull -crap that the City is not giving anything to them. He asked
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that they don't give him the business about the RDA; don't give him the
business about the Fire Station; don't give him the business about schools,
parks and stuff; we are sitting on two million dollars people. He noted that is
your taxes and not theirs. He stated that he was reading an article from a
Mayor of another town that said that in the interest of his reserves; he would
like to have reserves but not at the cost of public services. He stated that
public services come first and then the reserves and if we have any fine, and
if we don't then we will deal with it down the road somehow. He further
stated that services should stay intact; we don't have services in this town;
they kept you and your kids hostage for the money. He noted the deal with
the Stadium and he is glad that they did it and he hopes they will stand by
what they agreed to so the parks can stay open. He further commented that it
is still not a solution; if they fall on their face are they going to close the parks
again. He cautioned that Council has 21 days yet that they can cancel. He
stated lets see what happens in 21 day and he hoped that they stick by it.
12. Addressed Mayor Pape and apologized to him and the City. Mayor Pape
accepted his apology.
COUNCILMAN ALONGI LEFT THE TABLE.
Councilwoman Brinley commented on the following:
1. Stated that she would like to reiterate ... Councilman Alongi interrupted...
Councilwoman Brinley asked the Mayor to remove Councilman Alongi from
the table since it is her turn and he relinquished his turn. Councilman Alongi
stated "then for God's sake take it ... Jesus Councilwoman Brinley asked that
the audience not place the rest of Council in the same category with Mr.
Alongi and how he conducts his personal business here from the podium. He
noted that where Mr. Alongi makes his mistakes is that he takes his personal
grievances and brings them here; and uses them to attack certain people; and
then doesn't want to open them up for public comment. She stated that if you
don't want to do that, then this is not the forum to express that issue; you do it
in your private conversations; you don't take your dirty laundry and throw it
on the front yard for everybody to take a look at. He stated that then you
need to expect what will come back at you; you must take a good as you give
and Mr. Alongi cannot do that; he will leave the podium or whatever it takes.
She noted that the City did send Mr. Alongi a letter and confirmed with the
City Manager. Read a letter from Councilman Alongi that he had personally
signed regarding "Smith vs. Alongi" which indemnified the City and held it
harmless. She noted that the City would not be held responsible and the bill
was for legal fees. She apologized for what the public witnessed this
evening.
2. Thanked staff and the City Attorney for their diligent and hard work on the
Stadium lease agreement that was approved this evening. She gave special
recognition to City Attorney Leibold. Noted that this was a concern of the
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entire Council and they worked diligently to accomplish that. She stated her
appreciation to TMC for stepping up to the plate, and any offer to buy the
stadium will find the Council receptive.
3. Stated that Assistant City Manager Best has encouraged tourism in the City
though her efforts with Goat Breker. Through the efforts of Ms. Best, Mr.
Breker and his event, there was an increase in trade in all of the restaurants
and motels. She noted that tourism is more than just the people, it is an
atmosphere which is created. She stressed that Assistant to the City Manager
Best's job is to draw tourism to the community.
Mayor Pro Tem Kelley commented on the following:
1. Thanked the City's staff for support of the City Attorney and thanked City
Attorney Leibold for her hard work and dedication through a lot of long
nights of work.
2. Stressed expectations of decorum at City Council Meetings and noted that the
residents deserve to be treated appropriately.
3. Addressed the Visions and Views coverage of the Open Air Market which
will be opening on March 1 st and expressed her delight to hear that the
program has brought business and positive comments Downtown which is the
goal of the program. She announced that this month's coverage will cover
romantic spots in Lake Elsinore and the locations will address newlyweds and
oldweds. She commented that she had a great time and enjoyed doing the
program.
4. Wished everyone a Happy Valentines Day.
Councilman Metze commented on the following:
1. Complimented staff and the City Attorney for their hard work. He noted that
Deloitte and Touche were originally hired to talk with the team and they did
give this contract their blessing since they were involved in the process.
Mayor Pape commented on the following:
1. Expressed his curiosity about what her husband says about the amount of
time and nights City Attorney Leibold spent on the Stadium Agreement. He
thanked staff and especially Administrative Services Director Boone and
Community Services Director Sapp.
2. Stated that he was asked to let people know that there is an opportunity for
husbands and wives to make points since there is a special art exhibit and
torch songs on February 13th.
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3. Noted Councilman Alongi's comments regarding the COI's. He stated that
for over two years we have had numerous staff members attend LAFCO
meetings on behalf of the City and representing our disfavor of this action.
4. Addressed Councilman Alongi's comment regarding always going first. He
stated that he make a conscious effort to rotate the order to avoid that
insinuation and his comment has no merit.
5. Explained that chairing a meeting can be very difficult and that there is a fine
line in allowing a person to stay and participate or have them removed which
is a last resort. He stated that he doesn't want to support or condone that
action and is the purpose of him trying to regain order before moving on to
the next step. He noted the impact on the Meeting and stressed that it is often
difficult to draw a line. He further stressed the need for control and with an
apology would allow the comments to continue. He stressed his need to be
sure that he is making the right decisions before he takes action.
Cif MIRIA MAM [IILI
a. Anticipated Litigation - 3 Cases (Pursuant to Government Code Section
54956.9(b))
b. Conference with Labor Negotiator - LIUNA 777 (Pursuant to Government
Code Section 54957.6).
CITY ATTORNEY LEIBOLD NOTED THE NEED FOR AN ADDITIONAL
CASE OF ANTICIPATED LITIGATION PURSUANT TO GOVERNMENT
CODE SECTION 54956.9 (B).
MOVED BY KELLEY, SECONDED BY METZE AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO ADD THE ADDITIONAL
CASE.
THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING WAS ADJOURNED TO CLOSED
SESSION AT 10:22 P.M.
THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING RECONVENED AT 11:04 P.M. WITH
THE FOLLOWING DIRECTION:
1) DIRECTED THE CITY MANAGER TO SEND CORRESPONDENCE
TO EVMWD AND SCHEDULE A MEETING REGARDING
RECLAIMED WATER.
2) AUTHORIZED EXECUTION OF AN INDEMNIFICATION
AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY OF CANYON LAKE REGARDING
RESTRIPING OF RAILROAD CANYON ROAD.
PAGE TWENTY -ONE - CITY COUNCIL MINUTES - FEBRUARY 109 1998
3) DIRECTED LEGAL COUNSEL TO PURSUE A LEGAL ACTION.
4) DIRECTED LEGAL COUNSEL TO SEND FINAL NOTICE OF
DEFAULT AND COMMENCE ACTION TO TERMINATE AN
AGREEMENT IN THE EVENT OF NON - COMPLIANCE.
MOVED BY BRINLEY, SECONDED BY METZE AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO ADJOURN THE REGULAR CITY COUNCIL
MEETING AT 11:06 P.M.
VIN W. P E, MAYOR
ATTEST:
VICKI lCkSAD, C TY CLERK
I
MINUTES
CITY COUNCIL STUDY SESSION
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
183 NORTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA
THURSDAY, FEBRUARY 12, 1998
CALL TO ORDER
The Study Session was called to order by Mayor Pape at 2:40 p.m.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
The Pledge of Allegiance was led by City Clerk Kasad.
PRESENT: COUNCILMEMBERS:
ABSENT: COUNCILMEMBERS:
KELLEY, METZE,
PAPE
ALONGI, BRINLEY
Also present were: City Manager Watenpaugh, Administrative Services Director
Boone, Community Services Director Sapp, Assistant to the City Manager Best and
City Clerk Kasad.
Im
City Manager Watenpaugh noted the recent Goals and Objectives Meeting and
the request that staff come forward with an Economic Development Plan. He
noted that Assistant to the City Manager Best has put together a group of
professionals in Economic Development to explain what Economic Development
is in the 90's and how it has changed. He stressed that the consultant services
for this meeting were being provided free of charge.
Assistant to the City Manager Best noted that the panel is gathered from the
Southern California region and noted their expertise. She introduced Mr.
Michael Beck, Director of the. Office of New Initiatives and Economic
Development for the University of California, Riverside.
Michael Beck provided a background and history of economic development
including changing regional economy, contrasted Economic Development with
Redevelopment and provided a future vision for Lake Elsinore. He noted that
the historical industrial base for the Inland Empire was Aerospace, and the
region also benefited from Agriculture and Transportation. He Rather noted
that the approach in the past has been a rather generic "come one, come all"
attitude. He explained that the main selling point for the Inland Empire was
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low cost labor and land. He projected that the future characteristics of the
economy would be in specified technological clusters including
envirotechnology, transportation/logistics, infotechnology, biotechnic and
tourism. He stressed the importance of stimulating the economy by leveraging
private sector capital. He indicated that an appropriate Economic Development
program should include a marketing program, zoning/specific plans, business
friendly community and investment stimulation.
Mr. Beck clarified that "Redevelopment" includes leadership development,
image relations, land assembly, investment stimulation, and infrastructure
development. He explained that the key difference between Economic
Development and Redevelopment is the reactive component focuses on retail
activity where development should eliminate activity. He indicated that the top
ten location considerations for corporations are: labor supply /quality,
transportation system, permitting process, competitive operating costs, quality
of life, education, good government/business interaction, image, sites available,
and inducement packages. He stressed that the inducement package is not the
number one consideration. He indicated that the best development strategy is
to develop civic entrepreneurs, industrial inventory and strategic community
advantages including the good location and quality of life. He encouraged
continued efforts on the industrial inventory and stressed that the I -15 corridor
is critical for the region. He stressed that a good program manages the future
and improves social and economic conditions of the Community.
Assistant to the City Manager Best requested that Mr. Beck clarify the term
"Civic Entrepreneur ". Mr. Beck indicated that is someone in the community
who creates opportunities within the community, or helps to shape the
community. Ms. Best introduced Chris Del Ross Risher, Associate Director of
Business Attraction and Retention for the Inland Empire Economic Partnership.
Ms. Del Ross Risher discussed I.E.E.P. and the regional efforts underway. She
advised that there is a regional vision for Economic Development and identified
the Inland Empire participants in I.E.E.P. She indicated that I.E.E.P. is a
unifying force for regional business, government and community leaders, which
is advancing a pro -active marketing plan. She noted a handout distributed at this
meeting, detailing the regional strengths; and stressed that it is used on a daily
basis for business retention. She further noted that land availability and cost
is still a very important issue and there is still a large supply of land, at
competitive prices. She indicated that the biggest issue is the work force in the
region, and employers are finding the necessary work force locally; and that is
the area's greatest asset. She further indicated that wage rates are competitive
and people are educated. She noted the college and school systems in the area
and indicated that the housing market is the most active in the region, being rated
fifth in the nation in terms of market intensity. She stressed the affordable
nature of housing in contrast to Orange and San Diego Counties. She indicated
that the area offers incentives which are competitive with other areas of Southern
California. She stressed that the quality of life is a major selling point for the
area. She detailed the I.E.E.P. divisions including the small business
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development division, the Inland Empire Film Commission, and the international
trade division She indicated that the I.E.E.P. has a pro - active public policy
approach with the four main objectives of her job being to attract, retain, expand
and incubate new and existing businesses. She noted the dollars being spent in
other states to attract small businesses from California.
Ms. Best introduced Lee Hanson, Associate Professor of Management at
California State University, San Bernardino.
Mr. Hanson noted that his last job before academia was as a Senior
Administrative Assistant in a City Manager's office. He detailed the federal
IE21 program which is a high tech strategy for the 21st Century; seeking to
convert the region to a technologically sophisticated business base. He noted
the ability to command high wage labor in this area. He explained that the
thrust of IE21 is nurturing high tech entrepreneurship with technology transfer
from the Universities, and the promotion of industry clustering. He explained
that this regional strategy is linked to "Economic Gardening" and explained the
ability of this program to complement local economy efforts. He further
explained that Economic Gardening is shifting toward trying to assist local
companies to grow or expand. He suggested that the City do an industry
inventory, interview local companies to determine their growth needs, conduct
a community assets/liability audit and design and launch a gardening program.
He stressed that the overall thrust is to try and encourage the growth of
companies for higher income jobs, do economic intelligence of companies for
competitor intelligence reports, market identification, identification of foreign
trade possibilities, training programs using local community colleges to address
specific needs, provide professional support, and address quality of life
initiatives.
Assistant to the City Manager Best commented that there has been a number of
questions about "Economic Gardening ", and noted that it was well explained by
Mr. Hanson. She fuuther noted a study of several communities and their efforts
in this area. She introduced Michael Stull, Executive Director of the Inland
Empire Small Business Development Center.
Michael Stull spoke on the value of small business, the needs of the small
business community, explained the Small Business Development Center and
detailed its resources. He noted that Economic Development for small
businesses is many times overlooked, but they too are valuable to the economy
as a whole. He advised that there are twenty two million small businesses in the
Country today; and 50% of the private work force is employed by small
businesses. He noted the high statistics on high business failures and stressed
the number of small businesses in Lake Elsinore. He finther noted that he is a
strong advocate of small business, but the failure rates point to a need for
resources and nurturing. He compared the components of a growing garden and
the needs of the business community. He commented that the SBDC is an
organization that meets the needs of the small business community and maintains
a unique partnership between the Small Business Administration, the State of
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California, I.E.E.P. and a variety of cities, counties and private firms.
COUNCILMAN ALONGI ARRIVED AT 3:20 P.M.
Mr. Stull detailed the locations of their offices and noted that the nearest location
to Lake Elsinore is in Murrieta. He advised that the SBDC provides free
business consulting, low cost training seminars, special programs, and a resource
network. He detailed the business assistance provided in 1997 and stressed the
need to provide adequate support to small businesses. Councilman Metze noted
a past opportunity to interact with the SBDC and indicated that free services
provided were invaluable.
Assistant to the City Manager Best introduced Mr. Jerry Henderson,
representing the Los Angeles Region of the California Trade and Commerce
Agency.
Jerry Henderson commended the Council for having the best possible staff, and
detailed the California Trade and Commerce Agency and its programs. He
detailed the efforts to keep businesses in California and explained the various
divisions of the Agency, including Rural Development, Welfare to Work,
California Film Commission, Office of Permit Assistance, Office of Strategic
Technology, and Office of International Trade.
Ms. Best introduced Kevin Palmer representing the Economic Development
Agency for the County of Riverside.
Kevin Palmer commented on their efforts and economic activity in
unincorporated areas of the County. He noted that even development in the
County areas benefits the City in two ways, by allowing people to find
employment in the vicinity and causing much of the remaining vacant land to be
on the verge of development. He noted that several companies are looking into
the Southwest County area; and detailed efforts to develop a strategic plan. He
further noted that they have been able to identify target industries to market for
relocation to this area. He explained the resources the County has available to
assist cities with their ongoing projects, such as job training recruitment
programs, grant funds to help prevent lay -offs, industrial development bond
programs, etc. He also addressed federal EDA grants and noted the annual
funds for infrastructure.
Aurelio Aguierre, representing Riverside County Economic Development
Agency addressed C.D.B.G. funds and explained that it is his job to see that the
money is handled correctly. He noted that this money can address infrastructure
improvements in eligible areas. He stressed the importance of quality of life and
related issues. He advised that with regard to economic development, there is
a loan program in the County of Riverside, which is competitive for the County
on a whole. He stressed that cities only need to contact them and address the
strategy and they will let us know what can be provided. He stressed their
efforts to create jobs and a better quality of life for the area.
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Ms. Best noted that the speakers have gone from a general description of
Economic Development, to how it has been used successfully in other areas. She
then introduced Fred Francia, Local Region Manager in Public Affairs for the
Edison Company.
Fred Francia shared personal information on economic development in the Lake
Elsinore Valley; and indicated that he is very encouraged by the partnership and
cooperation between the cities of Lake Elsinore and Canyon Lake. He thanked
City Manager Watenpaugh and Assistant to the City Manager Best for their
willingness to work with him on economic development issues. He stressed that
the Edison Company is a stakeholder in the community. He presented a video
on the Goodyear Rubber Company and a successful business retention program.
He stressed the importance of outreach and "gardening" to retain successful
businesses.
Assistant to the City Manager Best reviewed the documents presented including
and Interim report published by UCR in 1996, regarding economic development
policies. She noted the key issues and the ranking of those issues in economic
development promotion. She requested that Council consider directing staff to
come back with a program for action, noting that City staff would like to include
an emphasis on developing small business in the community. She noted past
efforts with Temecula and Murrieta and the Southwest County Manufacturer's
Council, and indicated that staff would like to develop a formal written policy
for business retention programs, and possibly some streamlining of processes
and improvement of the City's business friendly image. She indicated that staff
would also like to include an economic plan in the general plan, and expressed
hopes to find funding to assist with this effort. She also indicated that staff
would like to continue to work with the EDC groups and stressed the importance
of small businesses. She noted that she has recently learned that there are 413
businesses with 5 employees or more between Lake Elsinore and Canyon Lake.
Mayor Pape thanked staff for the group assembled to shed light on economic
development. He noted numbers heard with regard to the recession being over,
and questioned whether there had been a survey of existing businesses in the
region about plans for expansion and the need for larger facilities in the future.
Chris Del Ross Risher indicated that I.E.E.P. does conduct surveys of that type
and are presently resurveying that particular information. She noted that they do
quarterly reports regarding business expansion and retention. Michael Beck
noted that a list is being compiled for the technology and business list, noting
that some are outdated. He noted that they believe they will find 400 to 500
high -tech companies in the region. He indicated that for that group the biggest
problem seems to be in attracting qualified labor. Kevin Palmer noted that
another tool which could assist in this area would be a seed grant pilot program
between the City and the EDC.
Mayor Pape noted that there was an intention to bring some specific
recommendations for action before the Council. Ms. Best confirmed and noted
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that those recommendations will include visionary programming and goal setting
for the community to look at where we should be going. She reiterated hopes
that it would be possible to use grant funds to assist these efforts. Mayor Pape
suggested bringing the program forward as soon as it is ready.
Councilman Metze indicated that he would like to see another study session with
the Chamber of Commerce, and the City of Canyon Lake and their Chamber of
Commerce. He further indicated that he would like to see a more specific
proposal at that time; including information on what we have and what else we
need. He noted positive efforts to gain information on the importance of the
quality of life in business growth and retention. Mr. Metze stressed that he
would want very specific information on exactly what is needed from the City
and from the Chamber to make the program work.
Mayor Pro Tent Kelley concurred with having the policy come back for further
discussion. She noted that a joint study session with the school district and
Canyon Lake was planned and suggested that this issue be on that agenda. She
thanked the consultant panel and stressed the existence of many resources to tap
into, and noted its alignment with the City's policies, goals and objectives.
Mayor Pape expressed appreciation to the Consultant team for their time and the
good information.
THE CITY COUNCIL STUDY SESSION WAS RECESSED AT 4:40 P.M.
THE CITY COUNCIL STUDY SESSION RECONVENED AT 4:50 P.M.
2. West End Fire Station.(F:127.3)
City Manager Watenpaugh noted that consideration of this item was requested
by Councilman Alongi, and was intended to allow for construction of the station
to proceed.
Councilman Alongi stressed the importance of fire service and indicated that 18
minute response times do not constitute protection. He noted a specific fire
which occurred at the west end, took 10 minutes for the fire department to arrive
and resulted in over a $100,000 loss. He discussed the use of volunteer staffing
and detailed the changes which have occurred. He detailed the response times
form each of the area fire stations.
COUNCILWOMAN BRINLEY ?._'.RP7,1D AT 4:55 P.M.
He suggested that by the time tle station is built in approximately 18 months,
the Chief will have had time to train personnel on how to operate the vehicle,
etc. He indicated that the majority of fire departments are all volunteer. He
noted that the City has negotiated a contract with the ball team and are opening
the parks, and there is $2 million in reserves. He suggested that it would build
the confidence in the community if the Council decides to go back and fiilly man
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the West End Station. He fiuther suggested that Goodhew would be interested
in renting space at a new station. He also suggested that another way to save
on operating costs would be for the City to handle the utilities on the station.
He suggested opening the station and then going back to the people for more tax
dollars. He indicated that his main concern as an elected official is to provide
the most important public service, being public safety. He noted that there is no
fire station planned in Eastlake and nothing in Tuscany Hills. He suggested that
the City was exposing the community to danger. He noted that volunteer fire
Fighters are the same as volunteer Sheriff's in that they place their life on the
line, but don't get paid for it.
Mayor Pape reiterated that the concern is not with having the money to build a
station, but with having the money to staff the station. He questioned the cost
of staffing a fire station with full time paid fire fighters year round. City
Manager Watenpaugh indicated that it is just under $500,000 a year for full time
staffing, but stressed that there was no revenue to pay that fee in the foreseeable
future. Mayor Pape noted that the next choice would be all volunteer, which
on the surface is a viable option, however it would still cost about $250,000 a
year to staff with volunteers and provide training, gasoline, electricity, etc. He
stressed that the Fire Chief has repeatedly told us that it is not in the City's best
interest to use all volunteers, as the calls are too numerous and there is a whole
list of reasons it would not be in the City's best interest. He suggested that
politicians going against the recommendations of professional staff would be a
bit pompous. He noted a recent newspaper article about the five fire stations
sittin g empty em because there are no funds to staff them. He indicated that with
regard to AMR ambulance service, they have a long term lease on the facility at
four corners; and are probably not interested in breaking the lease. He further
indicated that there has been some discussions with the County and Supervisor
Buster, and they are looking at moving the station in Lakeland Village , and it
could be relocated to benefit both City and County. He stressed the importance
of working toward common goals, which are logical and feasible.
Mayor Pro Tem Kelley concurred that the Council has repeatedly been told by
the Fire Department that a paid fire staff is needed. She stressed the need to
become solvent and suggested that the station needs to be more feasible with
adequate finding. She further stressed that the City doesn't have the funds right
now. She indicated that there are still 21 days before the Stadium Lease is a
done deal. She noted that there is nothing she would like to do more than build
a fire station and staff it, but it is not feasible and does not fit into the financial
plan.
Councilwoman Brinley concurred with the other Councilmembers because it is
important to do the right due diligence before the station is built, to assure that
we are able to staff and operate it. She indicated that there are no grants
available to fund it, and proceeding at this time would be doing the residents a
disservice. She reminded the Council and Community that the Stadium issue
was only resolved recently. She stressed the importance of making sure the City
has the money to fund staffing before the station is built. She indicated that she
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appreciates the volunteers and knows they are trained to deal with difficult
situation; but stressed that she has heard from the Chief that it is not a good idea
to use only volunteers. She further indicated that it makes sense to have the
money first and do it right.
Councilman Metze concurred with Mrs. Brinley and questioned City Manager
Watenpaugh with regard to whether this station was a priority at this time. Mr.
Watenpaugh indicated that if the fimding was available it would be great to have
the station, but it is not an emergency or priority at this time. Mr. Metze noted
that half of the savings from the ball field have been allocated, but there are other
payments due in eighteen months. He stressed that the reserves would be gone,
if the fire station was funded for four years.
Mayor Pape indicated that there appeared to be a clear consensus to not proceed
on this item. Councilman Alongi reiterated his concern and indicated that the
Council does not have a handle on the Community and missed the point about
vehicles.
Mayor Pape suggested proceeding to Item No. 3. There was debate regarding
the readiness to proceed.
3. Mayoral Election. (F:44.1)
City Manager Watenpaugh indicated that this item was also requested by
Councilman Alongi; and contemplated placement of the selection of Mayor on
a ballot as opposed the to selection by the Council. He noted that the fiscal
impact would be approximately $30,000.
Councilman Alongi indicated that it is time the people choose their Mayor and
take that power away from the Council. He commented that if the City is
trying to encourage other areas to join the City, this would be the first move
indicating that the City is willing to go to the people for a decision and gives the
Council a chance to exchange dollars in different districts. He stressed that the
residents want to elect their Mayor, and the Council should put it on the ballot
and let them make the decision.
After substantial debate, Councilman Alongi was escorted from the meeting.
Councilwoman Brinley indicated the reason Elsinore is not ready for an elected
t Mayor is that the five represent the City as a whole, and when you start breaking
a city into districts, there is a tendency for each to pull for their own district. She
indicated that the City is not ready for that, as it is still growing. She stressed
the importance of having a Mayor and Council all working together and not
setting one person apart from the others. Councilman Alongi reiterated that the
Council should let the people decide. Councilwoman Brinley indicated, at this
point, she would still like to see all members working together because they
were elected by the same people. Councilman Alongi indicated that would not
stop if the Mayor was elected separately. He stressed that the Council should
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give the residents the opportunity to vote on it.
Councilman Metze questioned the comment regarding Annexation and
questioned who would want to annex the other areas. He noted the newspaper
article regarding the Fire Station and this issue and indicated that he has seen no
large group of residents seriously concerned with either issue. He stressed that
all of the Councilnembers were elected and indicated that he is comfortable that
whoever is Mayor has at least been chosen by three Councihmembers.
Councilwoman Brinley indicated that with the current situation the Council is all
working together and all in the same status, with the Mayor chosen by a
consensus of three. She suggested if the residents want to change the system
they can petition the change.
Mayor Pro Tem Kelley commented that when a citizen votes for a Council
candidate they are fully aware that candidate could become Mayor and should
not vote for someone they do not want to see as Mayor. She indicated that
when you start running one position above another, you inherently give the
position more power. She noted what is happening in the City of Perris, as they
are now having a power struggle. She further noted that costs tend to triple for
the separate election and make it even more powerful. She suggested that this
proposal is nonsense.
Councilwoman Brinley concurred that it could create a power struggle.
Mayor Pape noted that the bottom line is trying to divide the City into districts.
He indicated that the reason districts are formed is to create manageable areas
to be represented and there is time to respond to constituent needs. He also
indicated that Districts become somewhat competitive for available dollars, and
representation deteriorates at that point, as the focus becomes on small segments
rather than the entire community.
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The Study Session was adjourned at 5:30 p.m.
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CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
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CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
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MINUTES
REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
183 NORTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA
TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 24, 1998
CALL TO ORDER
The Regular City Council Meeting was called order by Mayor Pape at 7:04 p.m.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Councilwoman Brinley.
INVOCATION
None.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: ALONGI, BRINLEY,
KELLEY, METZE, PAPE
ABSENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: NONE
Also present were: City Manager Watenpaugh, City Attorney Leibold,
Community Development Director Brady, Community Services Director
Sapp, Fire Chief Seabert, Police Chief Walsh, Finance Manager Magee, City
Engineer O'Donnell and City Clerk Kasad.
PRESENTATIONS
Mayor Pape requested an update on any storm related problems over the weekend.
City Manager Watenpaugh indicated that as of this date the Lake is at 1250'
elevation. He detailed recent road closures, but noted that all roads are now
reopened. He advised that two large pepper trees had to be removed in the
downtown area. He detailed the locations where sandbags were provided and
noted that staff is clearing rocks and debris from the roads. He further noted that
Lake crews are removing debris from the Inlet Channel and advised that as of
noon this date, Canyon Lake was flowing at a rate of over two million gallons per
minute, and for every fixture inch of rain there will be an increase of one foot in
Lake Elsinore. (F:92.1)
b. Proclamation - Arbor Day. (F:122.1)
Mayor Pape noted the presence of the students but absence of the Principal.
Mayor Pape read and presented the proclamation to three students of Terra
Cotta Junior High School. The Students noted that trees will be planted on
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their campus as part of the Arbor Day festivities.
a. Presentation - Media One. (F:170.5)
Cheryl Smith, General Manager of Media One, addressed the Council
regarding a topic which she considered awkward, but necessary. She stated
that during the last several Council Meetings, on several occasions profanity
has been used and Media One finds this unacceptable. She noted that they
have a responsibility to their customers to ensure that the content of the
programs aired on Local Cable Channel 3 are free of material which their
customers would deem inappropriate or offensive. She further stated that it
is their opinion that profanity falls into that category. Ms. Smith noted that
additionally the use of profane language can become a problem for the cable
operator, if the use of the language makes the program indecent. She noted
that the Communications Act of 1934 as amended, provides for penalties for
airing incidents and indecent programing. She noted that they take their
responsibilities to their customers very seriously and pride themselves on
providing quality programming via Channel 3 to their customers. She noted
that they believe their customers should never have to tune in to Channel 3
and hear statements that include profanity. She stated that she is requesting
a commitment from the City Council this evening, to discontinue the use of
any type of profanity during the live cable broadcasting of City Council
Meetings. She asked that Council take this request seriously, and indicated
that should there be any future incidents where profanity is used, Media One
will immediately discontinue coverage of the Council Meetings until this
issue is resolved. She stated that she would be willing to answer any
questions the Council might have.
Councilman Alongi stated that the United States Supreme Court has a
problem identifying profane language. He noted that the main word in her
report is "indecent" programming and asked for a definition of profanity.
Ms. Smith stated that she could describe what the law describes as indecent,
being any specific reference to sexual or obligatory actions or organs in an
apparently offensive manner as measured by contemporary community
standards for the cable media. Councilman Alongi asked if she had ever
heard that on this program. Ms. Smith stated that there have been some
words that have been used that could fall into this category. She stated that
Media One is not at this Meeting to get into a debate about what profanity
may or may not be. Councilman Alongi stated that he feels she is when she
stands before Council and makes statements. Ms. Smith stated that Media
One is here to share their concern as it relates to profane language being
used, and potentially being offensive to their customers. She noted that the
most important issue here, is that Channel 3 is their channel; they cablecast
the Meetings live as a courtesy to the City; and they do not want to
jeopardize their programing quality or offend their customers. She further
stated that Media One is not here to make any judgement other than to say
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that they feel the situation has the potential for getting out of control and
they would like to see it getting under control, so that neither the Cable
Company nor the City Council is in a compromising position should a
complaint be filed with the
FCC.
Councilman Alongi stated that he thinks that in all fairness Media One
should come to the Council with a report of what Media One considers
profanity and what the community feels is profanity. Mrs. Smith stated that
she cannot stand at the podium and talk about profanity when she has no
description of profanity. He asked if she considered "hell" and "damn"
profanity. Ms. Smith stated that "hell" is not profanity, however "damn ",
depending on the context can be.
Mayor Pape stated that this is an embarrassing situation for the City, when
we are on the verge of having our City Council Meetings taken off the air
because of swearing and here we are trying to play word games. He stated
that it is ridiculous and asked why anyone would have to ask to have it
explained. He noted that any third grader would know what language is
appropriate and what is inappropriate. He told a story that a parent related
to him of a child in a third grade class at Withrow Elementary during Martin
Luther King's Birthday. He noted that the children were given a project and
that was to complete a sentence "I have a dream ". He stated that it could be
"I have a dream about my community"; "I have a dream about my Country ";
"I have a dream about the world ", and the parent related to him that the vast
majority of the students in the room used the "I have a dream about my
community ". He noted that it wasn't about the parks or schools, but rather
their community and the children's answers were "I have a dream that there
won't be any more bad words ". He further noted that right now and in the
past profanity has been used, there are people watching the Council
Meetings to find out what is going on in their community and the children
are there watching the T.V. with them and they start to hear the cussing and
swearing that is going on at the Council Meeting. He commented that you
know that there is a dialogue going on between the parents and children
explaining to them that it is not a good word; not something that you want
to say. Mayor Pape stated that the children are listening to the discussion
that is going on for it to be that clear and that defined in a third grader's
mind. He stated that it is really embarrassing when someone tries to nit-
pick, when anyone viewing this meeting understands that it is not
appropriate to use that language and ruins the decorum of the meeting. He
gave Ms. Smith his personal assurance that he will do what he can to control
it at the meetings. He stated that anyone that comes to the podium or
anyone at this dais that starts to use those kind of words; he will ask the
officer to escort them away and hopefully they can conduct themselves in a
more professional manner the next time they come to the meeting.
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Councilwoman Brinley stated that she felt that Council received a polite and
professional warning from Media One. She noted that if this conduct does
not stop then the Meetings will be taken off the air. He further stated that
she felt that it was a horrible thing to have happen to the community,
because this is their source to be informed about what is happening in the
City.
Councilwoman Brinley stated that she was sure that Councilman Alongi
knows what swearing is and what is acceptable. She noted that there has
probably been language he has used in Council meetings that he would not
use with his own children, grandchildren or wife. She commented that she
was sure if he conducts himself as a gentleman at home, then he can
conduct himself in the same manner here so our constituents will not suffer
from this point on. She stated her concerns, and noted that her
understanding of this warning, is that Council has been sitting at the dial for
the last three years and received chastisement for things that Councilman
Alongi has done and continues to do. She stated that she will respect Media
One's request and abide by it and conduct herself in a professional manner,
however she feels that the rest of Council should put the shoulder of blame
where it really belongs instead of casting aspersions on the rest of Council
who conduct themselves in a professional manner at all times. She stated
that it is important that the Council conduct themselves well from this point
on because the Council Meetings are the citizens greatest resource to keep
the community informed.
Ms. Smith clarified that Media One's intent is not to chastise the Council as
a whole or as individuals. She stated that her Company sees this as a
Council issue and that is why they felt compelled to approach Council. She
reiterated Media One's responsibility to their customers and their legal
obligations.and exposures. She assured Council that this was not a decision
that was made easily and was discussed many times over within the
organization with the benefit of their Legal Counsel. She explained that
their concern is that there have been instances of profanity used at the
Council Meeting and stated that she felt that things could get out of control
and get worse. She stated that she does not personally think that the City
Council as a body or an individual wants to be in that position. She further
explained that it is not their intent to chastise anyone or pass moral
judgment on anyone as it relates to this issue, however Media One has a
commitment for responsibility as to what goes over the air on Channel 3
which is their community programing channel.
Councilwoman Brinley stated that she respects that and will abide by the
mandate this evening. She further stated that what she was trying to clarify
was where this problem is coming from and not regarding what you said
and how the Meeting should be conducted from this point on.
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Mayor Pro Tem Kelley stated that Council has a policy that directs the
decorum during Council Meetings and at this point she feels that it is
absolutely ludicrous that Council has to reduce themselves down to a debate
on what is appropriate and what is not appropriate regarding single words or
phases, since Council knows what is acceptable. She stressed that this
community deserves respect and she personally takes Media One's warning
very seriously and commented that she understood their fear of legal
exposure.
Mayor Pape stated that the First Amendment doesn't imply that because you
can say something, it is the right thing to say. Ms. Smith confirmed that
just because the First Amendment gives people the right to say what they
wish, doesn't mean that Media One has to retransmit it. She noted that is
the issue and Council can say anything that they want since she is the
biggest supporter of the First Amendment, however she does have an
obligation that she takes very seriously to her 76,000 customers of which
26,000 reside in this area. She explained that they have never faced this
situation before. She stated that she did not want to get involved with
arguing and debating over words, however she can assure Council that if the
language is inappropriate in nature and if it is profanity they will pull the
plug on Council Meetings. Ms. Smith stressed that she is not saying that to
be threatening at all, she is saying this because she means what she said
about Media One's responsibility. She explained that should it happen,
action will be taken immediately and the camera operator will notify
Council that the Meeting is off the air; he will disassemble the equipment;
and Media One will not come back until Council resolves the situation. She
stressed how serious this situation is.
Mayor Pape stated that it is unfortunate that Ms. Smith had to take this
action and stressed how embarrassing it is.
Linda Nanetti, 16293 Cimarron Road, addressed the entire cable
programing and stated that all the channels are viewed by the children,
parents, little league players and coaches. She explained that she has been a
playground supervisor and the language used by the children at age five
through seven was profane. She stressed that the children were hearing this
language at home and not from their teachers; and stated that if the public is
disgruntled from the adults on Council they should examine themselves.
She noted that children are not watching the Council Meetings, the parents
are and perhaps they are using incorrect language as well. Councilman
Alongi suggested that Ms. Nanetti should leave the podium. She stressed
that people should not point the finger at T.V., but rather they should look at
what is being said at home.
Mayor Pape questioned whether the public would like to stoop down into
the gutter like everyone else, or do we want to try and lift them up and
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improve standards. He stressed that just because someone else does it,
doesnitTinake it right. Councilman Metze concurred. Councilwoman
Brinley stressed that Council is supposed to set a standard.
PUBLIC COMMENTS - AGENDIZED ITEMS
Requests were received to address the following items and deferred to those
discussions:
Item Nos. a, 31, 32, 33 and 34.
CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS
The following items were pulled from the Consent Calendar for further discussion
and consideration:
Item Nos. l .a., l.b., 3 and 4.
MOVED BY METZE, SECONDED BY ALONGI AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO APPROVE THE BALANCE OF THE CONSENT
CALENDAR AS PRESENTED.
1. The following Minutes were received and ordered filed:
C. Planning Commission Meeting - February 4, 1998. (17:60.3)
d. Design Review Committee Meeting - February 4, 1998. (F:60.4)
2. Ratified Warrant List for February 13, 1998. (F:12.3)
BUSINESS ITEMS
31. Second Reading - Ordinance No. 1035 - relating to Adoption to the East
T Lake Specific Plan, Amendment No. 1. (17:150.2)
City Manager Watenpaugh highlighted this item.
MOVED BY BRINLEY, SECONDED BY ALONGI TO ADOPT
ORDINANCE NO. 1035, UPON SECOND READING BY TITLE ONLY:
Ken Howard, 17540 Grand Avenue, addressed what was said about bad
language, and questioned what the media would do when they catch the
Council in lies. He indicated that he was looking at one who has lied and
read a letter from the Department of the Interior concerning Eastlake and a
four foot pipeline through the levee. He further indicated that this pipeline
has never been opened up by the City or the Water District. He questioned
what steps will be taken to prevent the potential of flooding. He further
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questioned the increased level of the Lake and the time frame for further
increases. He asked about the outflow channel and what will happen if the
pipeline to the Eastlake floodplain is not opened. He noted that the Water
District has sent out a flier stating that when the water reaches 1255'
elevation, water will flow through Nichols Canyon, and inquired if that was
correct. He noted the impact of the water level on his tennis court and
indicated that lies are being scattered around by the people in charge.
Pete Dawson, 18010 Grand Avenue, noted that he is happy water is coming
into the Lake and we are not paying for it. He noted his past comments on
the floodplain and fault zone in the Eastlake area; and quoted scriptures
regarding the rain and floods.
ORDINANCE NO. 1035
AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA, ADOPTING THE EAST LAKE
SPECIFIC PLAN.
UPON THE FOLLOWING ROLL CALL VOTE:
AYES: COUNCILMEMBERS: ALONGI, BRINLEY, KELLEY,
METZE, PAPE
NOES: COUNCILMEMBERS: NONE
ABSENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: NONE
ABSTAIN: COUNCILMEMBERS: NONE
32. Library Funding & Ownership. (F:98.1)
City Manager Watenpaugh noted that the request before Council is to
formalize the discussions which have been taking place between City and
County staffs in a cooperative effort to purchase and renovate a new library
facility. He explained that the City had discussed with the Supervisor's
office that if the County were willing to front money then the City would be
willing to participate with the library fees that have been collected in a
Capital Fund through development to support repayments and renovations
of the library. He stated that staff recommends Council approval to expend
the Library Funds in the amount of $155,000; hire an architect to develop
the plans and specifications for the interior and removal of doors on vaults;
and clarify ownership of the facility to allow staff to finalize the necessary
agreements with the County.
Mayor Pro Tern Kelley stated that it is a real pleasure to see this item on the
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Agenda and noted that this idea was Mr. Trotter's idea and this offers the
opportunity for a better library in the City. She noted the problems with the
current library and encouraged Council to own the building. She noted that
no one knows what the future will bring and ownership would guarantee
City control of the Library. She suggested if Council wishes to own the
building, they appoint City Manager Watenpaugh as the person to negotiate
with the Council for all future business regarding the Library. She noted the
improvements that must be done before the Wells Fargo Bank Building is
ready for occupancy.
Councilwoman Brinley inquired if the library will allow Wells Fargo Bank
to maintain the A.T.M. at that site. Mayor Pro Tem Kelley stated that it is
her understanding that the walk -up A.T.M. will be maintained on site,
however the drive -thru will not remain on site and those facilities will be
converted into book return drops. She commented on the smaller building
in the back of Wells Fargo that can be utilized for community meetings.
Mayor Pape stated that it would be nice to have a meeting room of medium
size for group use. He noted that is one thing lacking in the community.
James Gray, 15159 Mimosa Drive, noted that at the Meeting held by the
Council they voted to purchase the Wells Fargo Building and now they
want to sell it to the City so we can spend $150,000 to upgrade the building
to meet the American's with Disabilities Act. He stated that moving the
Library is a good thing and having a place for the Detective Bureau right
next to the Riverside County Sub Station is a good thing, however the one
thing that is bad about this action is timing. He noted the fences around the
parks and stressed that there is no West End Fire Station and asked how
Council could consider this action under the circumstances. He stressed
that we should let the County spend the $150,000 and say no -sale, thank
you, however it should be a case of we will rent from you if you rent from
us. He further stressed that it would be a smart thing to do and we would be
ahead of the game for it.
Dick Knapp, City Treasurer, asked why Wells Fargo is pulling the drive -
thru out since it would be very convenient to have a book drop on one side
and an A.T.M. on the other side. He stated that he has reviewed the
requirements of the project and questioned the removal of the formal
entryway and vault doors. He stressed that the City could utilize the vault
and save the extra cost. Mr. Knapp gave a further overview of the items
required and questioned the necessity. He stated that due to the cost he felt
that we should leave it with the County and stated that if this is a staff
recommendation, then we should get rid of this staff and get a new staff. He
stressed that he would like his Wells Fargo rights protected.
Mayor Pape stated that much as the Council would like to, they do not have
control over Wells Fargo and they are private enterprise. Mayor Pape asked
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the City Manager to clarify the expenditure of the money.
City Manager Watenpaugh explained the use of Capital Funds and stressed
that they can only be used for what has been specified. He noted that the
money cannot be used for operations and maintenance. He further
explained that this has been a cooperative effort and the City could not do it
by themselves nor could the County, however by working together it will
make it possible to better serve both the City and the County area residents.
He addressed the requirements and stated that it is a non - discretionary
situation and the City must comply just as everyone else does.
Mayor Pro Tern Kelley explained that this is a win/win for the City and the
County area residents. She stressed that by moving to a larger building it
increases the ability to reach people and provide service. She noted that
there is no loosing side to this issue.
Mayor Pape gave an overview of the positive aspects of the entire situation
and concurred with Mayor Pro Tern Kelley that it is a win/win situation.
Councilwoman Brinley stressed the point that the money cannot be spent on
other project since it was collected for the Library and must be used in that
manner. She stated that the Library will be staffed by L.S.I.
Councilman Alongi stated that he does not disagree that the City needs a
new Library. He asked if the City does not move forward and since the
County has bought the building, will the County then move in and refurbish
the building and put it in the order needed for a Library. City Manager
Watenpaugh stated that it is his understanding that they would not.
Councilman Alongi asked if the City has received a bid on all of the items
and if the $155,000 won't reach it, where will the City get the funds to
complete it. He stressed that it is a very extensive list that is required and
very expensive. He noted that he does not feel that $155,000 will not come
close to doing the work that is required. He suggested that the City utilize
the vault since the City needs another place for archives. He stated that if it
is just venting, it is cheeper to core the vault and utilize the vault for rare
books in case of a fire. He asked why we would not want to use it since
fitting custom doors would cost so much and coring for ventilation would
only be a few hundred dollars. He stated that he is not opposing the
Library, however he is trying to find a way that the City doesn't get
themselves into this and find that there is a need for $200,000 more to
complete the project. City Manager Watenpaugh clarified that staff has
received an estimate from the County for the work and he purposefully did
not put the dollar amounts in the staff report because he did not want that to
be a fixed dollar amount. He gave an overview of the City's obligation and
stated that the City has only committed to the $155,000 for renovations. He
addressed the vaults and stated that the recommendation was to either weld
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the vault doors open or remove them, comes from the L.S.I. staff to address
safety issues and allow them to utilize the area for staff space. He noted
that has not been finalized at this point.
Councilman Metze concurred with Mayor Pro Tern Kelley.
MOVED BY ALONGI, SECONDED BY BRINLEY AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO APPROVE THE EXPENDITURE OF THE
LIBRARY CAPITAL FUNDS TO PREPARE THE NECESSARY PLANS
AND RENOVATIONS TO THE WELLS FARGO BANK FACILITY AS A
NEW LIBRARY FOR THE LAKE ELSINORE RESIDENTS AND
SURROUNDING COMMUNITY AND DIRECT STAFF TO FINALIZE
THE NECESSARY AGREEMENTS WITH THE COUNTY.
33. West End Fire Station - Requested by Councilman Alonei. (F:127.3)
City Manager Watenpaugh gave an overview of the West End Fire Station
and noted that while funds are available to construct the fire station the City
currently has no funds allocated for maintenance and operation of the
facility. He explained that the Council has taken the issue before the voters
twice and though that action it indicated that the voters did not want to be
assessed additional dollars to implement this action. He further explained
that to operate the station on a volunteer basis, it would cost the City
approximately $250,000 per year and to have a manned fully paid staff
would cost approximately $500,000 per year and upon information from the
Riverside County Fire and California Department of Forestry based on the
number of calls in that area it was recommended that there be paid staff
coverage augmented with volunteers. He further noted the City's efforts to
reach financial stability through the financial plan and indicated when the
City reaches a point where the Fire Department tells the City that the
number of calls mandates a fire station on the West End then Council will
be in a position to direct staff to find the money. City Manager Watenpaugh
stated that we have not reached that point as yet. He noted that the Fire
Department has indicated that there is a need for eight staff when the West
End Fire Station is built due to the projected demand for service on a 24
hour basis and not for just the period when volunteers are available.
Riverside County Fire Chief Jim Wright gave an overview of the history of
the West End Fire Station discussions and noted that a fully staffed fire
station entails a staffing standard of two paid persons on duty seven days a
week, twenty -four hours a day, augmented by a volunteer fire company. He
explained that they based that on the knowledge the projected responses that
the West End would have. He noted that the current responses have been
have been handled by the Lake Elsinore and Lakeland Village Fire Stations
and have amounted to 1,200 calls in the last year. He stressed that this
amount of calls would tax a volunteer fire company and create a situation
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where they would not be able to handle a response load of that amount. He
further stressed that once the facility was built that the community would
expect a rapid response from that facility and noted all the difficulties that
would be encountered to implement that expectation. Chief Wright stated
that based on all the information and projected factors it is recommended
that the City staff a West End Fire Station with two fully paid fire fighters
twenty -four hours a day, seven days a week, backed up by a volunteer fire
company. He noted that they have an excellent volunteer fire fighter
program and they are very proud of them.
Mayor Pape called on the persons who have requested to address this issue
as follows:
Chris Hyland, 15191 Wavecrest Drive, noted that this issue has been
addressed for years and there is a need for a fire station on the west end of
the City. She asked if it would not be favorable to build the fire station
since the City has the money and indicated that she would like to see a bank
statement that shows that the City does have the money to show that the
City actually has the money and not just a piece of paper that just says that
you have it in the amount of $776,192.19. He noted that she has a question
about the money since she feels that the City is hedging and noted that
while the cost of building is down, now is when it should be built. She
stressed that the City seems to have money to address the Library and other
projects, but not this facility. She stressed now is the time to address the
Fire Station.
James Gray, 15159 Mimosa Drive, noted the lease of the Diamond Stadium
and the money saved as a result of that action. He stated that he felt that the
money saved has been wasted. He noted that the City has proposed to
address the parks, however if a child is injured while playing who is going
to respond and how long will it take. He noted that the City has the right to
make a choice between the parks and Fire/Emergency protection by
building and staffing the West End Fire Station. He stressed that the City
build the West End Fire Station with the $776,000 that we already have and
staff the station with volunteers. He noted that with the money we save by
staffing with volunteers the City can afford to keep the parks open at the
current operating levels and allow the City to have the best part of both. He
cautioned Council that when they think about the children, really think
about the children and what is really best for them.
Linda Nanetti, 16293 Cimarron Road, produced her CC & R's and noted the
fire protection stated in that document. She noted that when she first moved
to Lake Elsinore she was in the County and then annexed to the City. She
stated that the City wants more, however can give less. She further noted
the proposed Liberty Development and the increased draw it will put on
current services. She asked what is going to happen to the Terra Cotta area
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and how will this impact them. She noted the need for personal first aid
training in order to save lives due to the lack of service. She asked that a
fire station be addressed for the protection needed by the residences in that
area.
Ken Howard, Lakeland Village, noted the traffic at Riverside Drive and
Lincoln and noted the excess amount to time it will take for Fire Trucks to
respond to the Machado area due to that factor. He asked if there are calls
in that area, then what is Lakeland Village going to do if they have a fire.
He urged the Council to build the West End Fire Station and will pay for
itself by not having trucks respond from Lakeland Village in getting from
one end of town to the other.
Ace Vallejos, 15231 Cobre, commented that when he moved to Lake
Elsinore none of the development was in existence and noted that now the
whole west end has developed, fire protection was not mitigated and has
still not been mitigated. He stated that the City is suppose to provide
services, just as well as the County does, and they are suppose to work
cooperatively in order to take care of the people and their safety. He further
noted that the response time is approximately 10 to 15 minutes and if there
were two fires at the same time he felt that it could be a very serious
problem. He stressed that the County Fire resources have had to be shared
with all of the new people that have moved into the City and nothing has
been done to take care of the safety concerns of the all the people. Mr.
Vallejos stressed his concerns for the safety for all the citizens in the
Community. He stated that as far a Volunteer Fire Services are concerned,
he would volunteer and he feels that he is qualified to do so.
Earl Doyle, commented that he has lived in Lake Elsinore 10 years and has
been waiting 8 years for a Fire Station. He noted that he was at the March
30, 1990, meeting where Washburn, Winkler, Molendyk, all the other
Council and a Fire Chief were present that promised that before the first 50
houses were built in Community Facilities District 88 -3 they would start
construction on a Fire Station. He stressed that he is still waiting and all he
has received is B.S. from all the Council except from Councilman Alongi
and he is the only one who has been honest. Mr. Doyle stated that last year
the City spent $1,300,000 on dead beat projects; $500,000 to pay off some
developer on the other side of the free -way which would have staff the Fire
Station for a year; $800,000 on other projects that were out of our General
Fund and the public should not be paying all of these fees out of our
General Fund. He stressed that the City owes the citizens a Fire Station and
noted a survey that was taken of 23 other cities and police, fire, public
works and parks were the first four things that were cited without
assessments. He again stressed that Council owes the residents the Fire
Station and stated that if Council invests in a Library before they build a
Fire Station, then he is going to encourage all the people that live in the
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Community Facilities District 88 -3 to form a class action suit and get the
Fire Station. He stated that he has called Sacramento and received very
good information and feels that this is the road they will have to take.
Mayor Pape asked that Chief Wright address the comments regarding the
number of calls and response times as well as the other questions that were
posed.
Chief Wright indicated that the number of calls that were received in the last
calendar year were 1,200 plus calls and noted that with the inflation of calls
annually the service demand will be increasing. He addressed response
times for the two primary stations that are responding in the area as well as
factoring in the proposed station. He gave an example of times involved as
follows: Cross street of Lincoln and Machado from Station 10 which is 3.7
miles and the response time 3.7 minutes; the Lakeland Village Fire Station
which is 5 miles takes 10 minutes; Nichols and Interstate 15, the Elsinore
Fire Station which is 3.8 miles which takes 7 minutes, Lakeland Village
Fire Station which is 7.7 miles with a 15 minute response time. He noted
that their response times are based on 2 minutes per mile and traffic
congestion is factored in on their response times and this is fairly accurate.
He stressed that they do not only have to provide safety to the public, but
also to the fire fighters who are responding to emergency incidents. Chief
Wright addressed that the utilization of the Fire Station in Lake Elsinore and
Lakeland Village and explained that the Riverside County Fire Department
operates a Regional Integrated Fire Protection System. He explained that
this means that the public has the benefit and luxury of blending several
layers of government, which in this instance include the State of California
Department of Forestry based at the Lake Elsinore Station; County of
Riverside based at the Lakeland Village Station; and the Elsinore Fire
Services providing fire services out of the Lake Elsinore Fire Station. He
noted that this integrated service moves all around and does not worry about
boundaries, City Limits, etc. He indicated that it is one of the best programs
and is a model for fire protection systems in the State. He noted that we are
very fortunate to have this program here. He explained that by adding an
additional Fire Station it will enhance the Regional System for the Elsinore
Valley.
Mayor Pape asked for clarification regarding the ambulance service which
is contracted through the Fire Department. Chief Wright concurred. He
stated that the Paramedic Ambulance Services are provided by American
Medical Response (AMR) which is a private company which provides the
service and they are regulated through the County Emergency Medical
Services /Department of Health. He indicated they have the operating area
of the Southwest Zone as well as throughout the rest of the County.
Councilman Metze clarified that they are located at Riverside Drive and
Lakeshore. Chief Wright concurred.
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Mayor Pape stressed that the dollars allocated for the Library can only be
used for Capital Funds for the Library and cannot be used to staff the Fire
Station.
Councilman Alongi apologized to Chief Wright and stated that it is difficult
to question someone of your authority. He stated that he does know that
Chief Wright would not reach the level of his achievement if he was not
qualified in the area of Fire Protection. He indicated that the City was going
to put a temporary Fire Station at the corner of Machado and Lincoln for a
one engine Fire Station and move an ambulance service there, as well as
moving two men from Station 10. He asked if there was any difference
from moving two personnel from that location to the new site. Chief
Wright noted that currently the City of Lake Elsinore funds a three person
Engine Company out of Station 10, based on the 1990 City of Lake Elsinore
Fire Protection Master Plan study. He noted that one of the
recommendation of the study was for the City to increase, from a two man
Engine Company to a three man Engine Company and the City did that
right after the master plan was received by the City. He explained that since
then, through working with the City to make the West End Fire Station
work, it was recommended that the City reduce the Engine Company
staffing level at Station 10 and redirect the third Fire Fighter position to the
West End and adding an other staff member to make the West End a two
person Engine Company. He stressed that it would not be taking two
people from Station 10, it would rather be taking one person and adding
additional staff to make a two person Engine Company. He noted that it
would drop the cost since the City is already paying for the third person at
Station 10 and would be adding only one new person. Councilman Alongi
asked if the City went to a full staff Fire Station, then the City would only
be looking at one more full time staff person at the West End. Chief Wright
stated that is incorrect since Fire Fighters are paid for a three day shift and
four days off, therefore for seven day a week coverage there is a need for
three bodies. Councilman Alongi asked if Chief Wright has ever
recommended an all volunteer station. Chief Wright noted that in 1992, the
City Council was given information regarding all volunteers and full paid
staff scenarios to allow an appropriate decision. He explained that the City
Council must choose your level for Fire Services. He stated that when he
met with Councilman Alongi recently the statement that he made was that it
was his responsibility to inform Council of all of the professional and
technical information so that if the City went with an all Volunteer Fire
Department that in the event of an emergency incident and Volunteer
response was late or it didn't even cover it, you will have citizens calling
you and myself. He stated that he wanted to be sure that everyone is
informed up front and that there is no expectations and that the community
knows it as well. He explained that if the Fire Station is built and it is all
Volunteer it may not be responding every call. Councilman Alongi stated
that he understands that and he thinks that the constituents understand that
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as well and asked Chief Wright if he opposed a Volunteer Fire Station and
noted that Chief Wright recommends a fully staffed Fire Station and he
respects that. He explained that he would like the best, however he cannot
afford the best so he will take what he can get. He asked if it was an
accurate stated that Chief Wright does not oppose a Volunteer Fire Station
if that is the only thing that the City could provide. Chief Wright concurred.
Councilman Alongi clarified that the Volunteer Fire Fighter would be
trained to operate a new Fire Engine that the County would provide and the
County would also train those persons to run the Station on a Volunteer
basis. Chief Wright concurred. Councilman Alongi stated that he would
not be so adamant in supporting the Fire Station if the pervious Council and
this Council did not spend our tax dollars in areas in which they spent it.
He stressed that public safety is the City's most important asset that the
Council should attain. He noted that it is not providing ball games for out
of town visitors at the tune of $500,000 a year. The ball field itself, over a
four year period has eaten up well over $3 million dollars of the public's
taxes, right out of the General Fund. He stated that during the last couple of
years the City has taken approximately $600,000 to pay some dead beat
contractor's bills which could have gone to man the Fire Station. He noted
that the money was borrowed from the Redevelopment Agency to pay those
bills and that was done to go $5 million dollars deeper in debt. He noted
that it was applied to a $10 million dollar loan that the City borrowed that
could not be paid in the first place, hoping three years down the road that
the City would have the money to make the payment. He further noted that
the City then took $140,000 from the Reserves again and fenced off the
parks; then came back two weeks later and took $50,000 from the General
Fund to put in the parks; then the City came back and matched the $25,000
funds to apply to the parks; then the City came back and took some more
money; then subsidized a movie theater $100,000 a year -plus right out of
your pockets; then subsidize the Lake right out of your pockets.
Councilman Alongi stated that he would not be fighting for that Fire Station
if all that was not done. He stated that the City seems to find money
whether from the Reserves or other sources to provide to do the things other
than to provide public safety and provide services in this community. He
noted that the City has well over $2 million in Reserves and right now is the
best time to build the Fire Station because of building costs. He stressed
that the City does not have to build the Fire Station that was designed for
that area since the County would provide us with their plans and it would
only need to be recertified by an Engineer. He further noted that would be
money saved as well as the Fire Truck being free and it would only cost
$200,000 to man it with volunteers. He stated that he would like to have a
full time Fire Department as well and explained that he came to Lake
Elsinore in 1962 and there were 5,700 people when he moved here and the
only Fire Station was on Graham. He stated that the City has grown to
26,000 and the only other Fire Station which is mostly volunteers, is in
Lakeland Village and that is not keeping up with public safety. He stated
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that parks are important, but if the City can commit half of the $500,000
which the City has not received yet, Council could certainly take part of that
money and put it toward maintaining the Fire Station. He further stated that
the Council could also get the Emergency Services that is contracted to put
an ambulance in that building as well which would address the security of
the building and they would be more than happy to move to that end of the
Lake. Councilman Alongi stated that he has response times from different
stations within our area and asked if the desired response time is 7 minutes.
Chief Wright stated that they would like to see a response time from 5 to 7
minutes which is based on emergency medical care which has a window of
4 to 6 minutes. He explained that it is based on the fact that when breathing
stops. Councilman Alongi stated that when it is a 15 or an 18 minute
response the person is dead. Chief Wright concurred. Councilman Alongi
stated that it is a very dangerous situation that the Council puts the public
in. He noted that it is not the Fire Chief s fault; not the County's fault; not
the policeman's fault; it is the Council's fault. He noted the amount of calls
the area stations receive from 1989 to present in Station 10 are as follows:
1989 - 210 fire calls with 124 false alarms and 1,562 medical aid; 1996 -
413 fire calls with 191 false alarms and 1,757 medical calls; January 1
through August 31, 1997 - 172 fire calls with 105 false alarms and 1,097
medical calls. He stated that at Station 10 in 1996, 74% of the calls were
medical calls and noted that the residents are doing a pretty good job of
preventing fires in our community. He further noted that at Station 11 it
was 76% for medical aids. He noted that in 1997, Station 10 had 76% and
Station 1175% in medical aid. He stressed that it is not just fire that is
being discussed, but medical aid. He stated that what is being discussed is a
child choking or someone having a heat attack. He noted that the
ambulance will respond to those. He read an article which stated that 75%
of Fire Fighters are volunteers in the United States which is a total estimate
of 1,730,600 Volunteer and paid Fire Fighters across this country of which
807,000 are Volunteers. He gave an overview of the article giving listing all
of the various fire services. He noted that it is not unusual to have
Volunteer Fire Stations and in fact one of the Fire Stations in the County
moved from paid personnel to volunteer. Councilman Alongi noted a letter
that he has from a Fireman who is a Lieutenant that he trusts and knows
very well, talking about Volunteer Fire Stations. He indicated that the letter
says that even though the West End Fire Station could first be staffed with
volunteers, that with the current level of the West End local protection
which is "0 ", it is easy to see how 80 %, 70 %, 50% or even 40% would be
better than nothing. Councilman Alongi stated that the Council has now
approved East Lake and there is not a fire station around there, unless there
is one built in the second phase as well as Summer Lake which could start
up again as well as Tuscany Hills with no fire station there as well. He
stated that Council's responsibility is public safety and not the savings
business. He stressed that it is not Council's job to build the City's savings
account. He further stressed that the community wants the Fire Station; the
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City charged them for it; the City collected the fees for a Fire Station which
were added to the cost of the house plus the assessments and the people are
paying for it. He stated that the Fire Station should be built today. He
further stated that it would take 18 months to build it and the Fire Chief 18
months to train the people that will be in that Fire Station. He noted the
people would realize that the people would realize that it is a Volunteer Fire
Station and not be upset about it. Councilman Alongi stated that based on
the figures it is the medical services that is more important in that area. He
noted that in the letter it is stated that approximately 80% of the calls to the
West End Fire Station would be emergency medical calls. He stated that
this is not for him since he has a Fire Station right around the corner and can
be at his home in less than 2 minutes and it is the same with a Police,
however the people at the West End of the Lake will need to take their
children to the hospital because the medical aid will not get there quick
enough. He noted that the letter he has been reading is from a reputable
Volunteer Fireman who has been on the job for the last 18 years. He noted
that the letter stated that it would be logical and efficient to have Good -Hue
Ambulance move into the new station which would provide station security
and a form of station staffing when volunteers are not present. He stressed
that he would not argue with this Council. He noted that he has stated the
facts and appreciates where Chief Wright is coming from. He commented
that he has several members of his family that are firemen and he
understands Chief Wright's concern and the fact that he wants to provide us
with the best type of coverage that we can afford, however in this instance
the City has decided to take it's money and squander it in other areas which
remove us from public safety. He stated that he felt that Council should be
just as concerned about public safety as we are about a library. He stressed
that Council's concern is about playing ball and taking fences down around
parks.
Chief Wright addressed construction costs that Councilman Alongi
mentioned. He stated that in the early days of this project the City was
presented with a fire station design, that after it was looked at and evaluated
that had a construction cost of over $900,000. He noted that when the Fire
Department saw that, they came to the City and offered to help. He further
noted that the County offered their standard fire station design since the
plans were already done. He further stated that they took one of the
Councilmembers to see the fire station and their intent was to help the City
save money in the construction of the station. He stressed that the option is
still out there. He commented on the fire apparatus and noted that the
County's contribution to this project was to make a Fire Engine available
from their fleet to place in this Fire Station since the County knew the
expense on the City to place a Fire Engine in that Station. He noted the
discussion regarding Volunteer Fire Fighters and explained that Volunteers
do go back to the early days of Benjamin Franklin, and it is still volunteer in
the Eastern United States, however in California, especially in Southern
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California there are not many true Volunteer Fire Departments left due to
population levels of demand, etc. Chief Wright stated that Riverside
County Fire Department utilize Volunteer Fire Companies throughout the
County and they have approximately 1,200 Volunteers serving various areas
in the County. He noted that of the 84 Stations, County wide they have a
total of 12 Fire Stations that are Volunteer staff. He noted that those Fire
Stations are located in rural areas such as Rancho Carillo, Rancho
Capistrano, Colorado River, River Bend at Lost Lake and the one that
Councilman Alongi mentioned that converted to all Volunteers is causing a
problem now through time it has become difficult for them to provide
response time for the community. He explained that due to the fall -off in
Volunteers the community had to relay on a neighboring City to provide
service and now that City has informed the County of the impact it has
caused them. He further explained that he is now faced with going to the
County Board of Supervisors to obtain funding to put paid staff back into
that Fire Station due to the demand levels. He stressed that Riverside
County Fire Department is very pleased with their Volunteer Fire
Companies and thank them for the tremendous amount of time and effort
that these individuals give to their community. He explained the amount of
time necessary to go through the required training which is the same in
service training that the paid personnel receive to facilitate interaction on
site is tremendous. He listed the amount of training necessary. He stated
that it is getting harder and harder to maintain that type of personnel
because Volunteers are members of the community and have to work and
provide a living for their families. He explained that there is only so much
time that a person can give.
Mayor Pape thanked Chief Wright for attending the Council Meeting and
noted that this is an emotional issue for a lot of the residents. He noted that
it entails a great deal of money and must be looked at logically to review all
of the options. He noted that the first option is to look at an all paid staff,
seven days a week supplemented by Volunteer and noted that the cost is
approximately $500,000 each and every year to the City. He stated to incur
that additional cost the City then needs to target or ear -mark some
additional or new revenue sources to be able to make that expense every
year. He noted that the City does not have any new revenue source that can
be tapped into to address this. He commented on the suggestion to spend
the money out of reserves, however the City has just over $2 million and is
available for any potential unexpected expense that the City must incur that
is not budgeted for each and every year. Mayor Pape noted that at $500,000
a year, in four years the City's savings is completely wiped out and there
would be no more money, therefore if anything happened that was not
budgeted for such as a big storm and staff is needed to address emergencies
the money would not be there to pay them. He noted that the Council and
community made the effort to create additional revenue sources with
Measure SS and it failed. He stated that the other option is an all Volunteer
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Station and Volunteer does not mean free since it will cost approximately
$150,000 a year to operate the Station and again this would be spending
money without a new revenue source and spending money that the City
does not have. Mayor Pape noted Chief Wright's comments regarding the
fact that Volunteers are a great supplement to the paid full time staff,
however the community will be disappointed if they relay on Volunteers
100 %, because they do have other jobs, families, and other commitments.
He commented that he was sure that there would be a lot of people available
on Saturday and Sunday, however it is going to be very difficult Monday
through Friday to staff an all Volunteer Station. He noted the experience
that the County has had and read an article from the January 23, 1998, Press
Enterprise which states no cash, no staff. He explained that the different
areas had the money to build the Fire Stations, however they had no money
to staff them and now they sit empty. He asked if the citizens of this
community want to duplicate that type of problem. He explained that as the
City starts to see new revenues in the future with the boost in the economy,
the City can then take that money and allocate it to staff a Fire Station. He
stated that Council should learn from the mistakes that have been made
before which is "don't build it until you can pay for it ". He stated that when
the funds become available, then the Fire Station can be built and the City
can staff it properly. He noted the need, however the Fire Department's
professional and technical recommendation is that the City work toward
being able to provide a Station that has full time paid personnel on site. He
stressed that all the Members sitting on Council hear emotional issues,
however when it comes time to make a decision on them they must follow
what the experts advise. He asked if the community wanted them to base
their decisions on the facts that the experts present to them or on a political
basis and that is what Council is faced with right now. He noted that this
issue has been addressed at a Study Session and now it is being brought
back so people can grand stand a little bit, therefore Council must be patient
and go through the process, however this issue does have a benefit to the
community so that everyone can understand what is going on. He noted the
financial situation that the City is in and although it is a priority it must wait
until new revenues become available and then it can be addressed. He
explained that the City's goals are to add more police, do the Fire Station
with staff, bring back the parks, do some repaving on streets. He explained
that there are a lot of things that must be done and the Council will have to
take them one at a time as money allows.
Councilwoman Brinley stated that she felt that Chief Wright made a good
point when he stated that Volunteer Stations are effective when there is a
population of 10,000 or less. She noted that Lake Elsinore has a population
of approximately 28,000. She clarified the response times that were
addressed and asked if this falls within the guidelines that address the health
and safety of a community of 28,000. Chief Wright stated the information
came from a Volunteer Informational Guide and is based on a Nation Wide
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Application average. He further stated that response times are based on 2
minutes a mile and includes all the factors that would influence responding
to an incident. He responded to the questioned regarding criteria and
explained that the County Fire Department in it's Master Plan relies on the
planning levels of heavy urban, urban and rural and out -lying areas. He
noted that based upon those categories is that time responses are set as goals
and in this the City is classified as urban and that is what should be strived
for. He further noted the City's Fire Protection Master Plan also parallels
the County's Master Plan by meeting those criteria. He explained that the
need for that, using the fire response as an example, is that to meet and
urban level of fire protection services the Master Plan will dictate that at a
first alarm assignment would be required to arrive and have suppression
efforts underway within 10 minutes which is the goals that they set.
Councilwoman Brinley asked about the training for volunteers and the cost
that would have to be met by the City. Chief Wright stated that it would
refer to the service delivery cost which would be the $250,000 that is what it
costs the Fire Department to maintain a Volunteer Fire Company which
includes the training, training material and everything that makes the Fire
Station work. He noted that just the required safety for each Volunteer
would cost approximately $1,500 to $1,800 that must be provided. He
further noted the Workers Compensation Coverage that is required,
therefore all of the service delivery costs would cover all of the items
associated with a Volunteer Fire Company operation. Councilwoman
Brinley clarified that the developers building new homes would have to
meet with the Fire Department to mitigate any concerns regarding fire
protection and noted that they cannot build houses without your approval.
Chief Wright concurred. He noted that when a developer come to a city or
county area, the planning process opens up the project for review by all of
the affected agencies. He gave an overview of the review procedure. He
explained that with planning process, an agreement can be entered into to
augment mitigation efforts to meet service level demands. Councilwoman
Brinley noted that the City and County are doing a joint effort to address
operations and maintenance for the West End and explained that since
County has had financial problems they cannot participate and now the City
must try to figure a way to provide the costs of operations and maintenance.
Mayor Pro Tem Kelley stated that she just wanted to emphasize that the
Library dollars only go for the Library and cannot go for a fire station. She
noted that it was mentioned that the City has done many things in the past
that did not have a revenue stream to accommodate and it is a pit that this
Council has been trying to dig it's way out of since day one. She further
noted that the question that has had to be answered is how this Council pays
for the things that are before them and no dollars to answer those demands.
She explained that it means that they have had to close down facilities and
lay -off to answer the financial problems. Mayor Pro Tem Kelley stated that
whether it is $250,000 or $500,000 a year, Council still needs a permanent
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revenue source to pay for them and emphasized that it is yearly and not just
one or two years. She stated that no one can deny that the City needs
another Fire Station, however the Council must make fiscally sound
decisions and noted the financial work out team that developed a financial
strategy and the Council has been cautioned to stick to the strategy so that
the City can be dug out to allow services in the future. She noted the
contract with TMC to take over the Stadium and has not been signed yet
and therefore to commit the funds would be premature. She stressed that
she would like to see Council tackle the issue when they know how they
will be able to pay for it and operate it in the correct manner. She noted that
the professionals have recommended that the City man the Station with a
paid staff and she felt that the City should behoove that recommendation.
He concurred with Councilwoman Kelley regard the funding of a Fire Station and
noted that at this time the City does not have a regular funding source to cover a
Fire Station. He explained that to build it now would place the City in the same
position that it finds itself in with the Stadium. He noted that when he was elected
the voters wanted to have the City pulled out of debt and that is what he is
committed to. He further noted that the temporary station was vetoed by the
people and it has been noted that the voters want a permanent fire station when the
City can afford to do so. He noted that the public wants it to be built and staffed
however they do not want to be assessed for it, therefore the City will have to wait
until funding is available. He stated that what he feels that all this comes down to
is someone was upset over the Stadium and Theater and will do anything that they
can to make this Council look bad, when they are just trying to deal with the
situations that previous Council's had put in motion. If the public wishes to sue
Council he stated that they could since he has an attorney available. Councilman
Alongi stated that Councilman Metze could not use the City Attorney.
Councilman Metze asked that Councilman Alongi not interrupt him by order of
Council Policy and Roberts Rules of Order. He questioned the ambulance service
that the City uses and asked if they were paramedics and what the difference was.
Chief Wright noted that the ambulance provider, American Medical Response,
provides paramedic or advanced life support services. He explained that Fire
Services provides basic life support services by basic first responder level training
or EMT. Councilman Metze stated that each augments the other. Chief Wright
concurred. Councilman Metze noted that the west end has Emergency Medical
Response in a superior time factor than other places in the City. Chief Wright
stated that is only if they are close to home base. He noted that they are in a
Regional Program and could be committed to a traffic accident on the freeway.
Councilman Metze noted that this could also apply to the Fire Trucks as well. He
explained the move -up resources and how each station backs the others.
Councilman Metze noted that due to the location of the ambulance, the response
time is faster in that area. Chief Wright concurred and stressed that it would only
be faster if they were in their home base.
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MOVED BY BRINLEY, SECOND BY METZE TO POSTPONE
INDEFINITELY THE WEST END FIRE STATION ISSUE.
Councilman Alongi stated that Chief Wright stated that the goal is 2
minutes per mile and the Lakeland Fire Station to 115 and Lake Street is 9.1
miles which is 18 minute response time. He noted the following: That
moving an emergency vehicle: from four corners to that area would enhance
the response time and stated that the Fire Department cannot respond in a
proper time from Lakeland Village or from the Elsinore Station; that the
City has never lived up to it's Master Plan for Fire Protection; the only thing
that is discussed at Planning Commission level is fire flow, the Fire
Department has never requested denial on any project, unless there was a
Fire Station within the responding time, however they have responded to
fire flow which addresses the location, number and water flow. He
addressed the Stadium contract and noted that Council directed Little
League to go out and start making plans to start playing ball in their parks.
Councilman Alongi stated that if the contract has not been approved, then
what is Council directing Little League for, yet we cannot do a Fire Station.
He noted that the type of response that is experienced in this area by
Volunteers which is at the Lakeland Village Fire Station is 50 %. He further
noted that the Elsinore Fire Station is all paid personnel and he noted that
50% is better than zero. He further noted the total number of incidents
where Volunteers responded from the Lakeland Village Fire Station which
is primarily staffed by Volunteers is 615 times and is better than nothing.
He stated that we are not talking about the extreme level of Fire Protection
in the Western Area; we are not talking about taking funds from the Library
and spending it on the Fire Station; we are talking about money that was
taken from the residents to build a Fire Station; we are talking about setting
a policy with the Fire Chief that if a decision was made to man the Station
with Volunteers, would work his butt off to try to do that because that's his
job; the Chief would not turn his back on the Fire Station and say "to hell
with it, we ain't gonna put anybody in that Station ". He stated that the Chief
would work his heart out because that's his responsibility as a Fire Chief.
He noted his court cases and stated that he would be on Council long after
the others are gone because he knows the system.
THE FOREGOING MOTION WAS APPROVED BY A VOTE OF 4 TO 1
WITH ALONGI CASTING THE DISSENTING VOTE.
THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING WAS RECESSED AT 9:10 P.M.
THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING RECONVENED AT 9:22 P.M.
34. Mayoral Election - Requested by Councilman Alongi. (FA4.1)
City Manager Watenpaugh stated that Councilman Alongi requested that
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Council consider the position of Mayor be an elected office and be place on
the next available election. He asked for Council direction.
Mayor Pape called upon those persons who wished to address this item.
Chris Hyland, 15191 Wavecrest Drive, stated her support of an elected
Mayor. She suggested that the moveInt to elect a Mayor be delayed until
after the possible recall in May.
James Gray, 15159 Mimosa Drive, stated that if the voters elected a Mayor
there would be no fences around City Parks, and the West End Fire Station
would be open and operating. He further stated that it is time that the City
moved toward the 21 st Century and have an elected Mayor to represent the
City of Lake Elsinore, not a situation of "gee it's my turn to be Mayor ".
Councilman Alongi stated that in his opinion the public should vote for
their own Mayor; that it is time since the Council Policy doesn't work and
noted that a new Mayor should be appointed each year to facilitate everyone
being Mayor; it would be a good thing for the Community to have an
elected Mayor even though the election would cost $30,000; whether the
Council approves this item tonight or not, it would make it easy on the
citizens if it were approve, however if Council does not the citizens will
have to collect signatures to place the item on the ballot. He noted that if
this Council is not afraid of electing a Mayor then they should take this
action. He further noted that this Council feels that they have a good
working relationship and why bring someone else in that they might not be
able to work with. He stated that it might be the case or not, however at this
point and time it seems as though whoever has control of the Council has
control of the position of Mayor and that is not fair. He stated that at the
last appointment the positior, of mayor should have gop_e to Mayor Pro Tem
Kelley since she was next in line, however any person sitting on Council
can be Mayor and it is a matter of politics and it is a matter of selfishness
and shows who has the power, and will do what they want anyway.
Councilman Alongi stated that the public will understand how this Council
feels and they don't want to give you the right to vote for your Mayor.
Councilman Metze addressed Mr. Gray and stated that his friends promised
the citizens the world and were not elected; they promised parks and fire
stations and were not elected. He noted that they did not come close. He
noted that this Council is sitting here and making decisions. He further
stated that he loves people who make promises that don't have a clue how
they are going to deliver. Councilman Metze stressed that this is $30,000
more that these people want to take from the reserves and noted that every
item that is proposed would have to come from the reserves and asked when
the money runs out and things will have to be taken away. He further noted
that these people want to spend all of the reserve money and then what will
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happen when there is a lawsuit with a settlement of $100,000 and no
reserves to pay for it and stated that it would then have to be paid for by
cutting services. He stated that this issue is a dead horse that has beaten to
death. He stated that we are a town of 26,000 and noted what is happening
in Perris which has a real power problem. He encouraged people to read the
papers and then form their opinion. Councilman Metze addressed the issue
of recall and noted that "the group" tried to recall of two Councilmembers
and asked for the resignation of the other two, however they do not say
anything about the Councilman who has been convicted by the FPPC for
four violations of the Fair Political Practices Commission. He noted that
the Grand Jury handed down indictments of 16 different counts that state
willful and corrupt misconduct while in office, and yet they don't say one
word about him since he is their champion. He noted that the actions of the
other members of the Council have not been in question.
Councilwoman Brinley concurred with Councilman Metze regarding an
elected Mayor. She noted that an elected office for Mayor occurs in larger
communities where they are split into districts and need an elected Mayor
and used Los Angeles as an example which needs individual representation.
She further noted that the City of Lake Elsinore has five active City
Council people who are suppose to be working for the best interests of the
community as a whole. She explained that this has been the way that the
majority of Council works. Councilwoman Brinley took exception to Mr.
Gray's comments regarding the appointment of Mayor and made a review of
that meeting. She noted that the conduct of the Council did not lend to his
comments. She stated that if the community wishes to have an elected
Mayor, then the decision should be up to the community and not Council.
She noted that it is their community and their Council and that is what they
choose, then this Council will follow their direction.
Mayor Pro Tern Kelley stated that this is the second discussion in regard to
this issue and explained that when one position is set apart from the others
by separate election, it inherently gives that position more power. She
explained that if a position is made different it becomes more powerful and
is something that is not needed by this City and Council at this time. She
stated that she felt that every voter in the City should be voting for Council
people that they would ultimately envision as being Mayor who will serve
in that position with professionalism and pride. Mayor Pro Tem Kelley
noted that other cities have elected their Mayors and have seen the cost of
running for that position triple and quadruple and the reason is that all of a
sudden that position becomes more powerful. She stated that is the last
thing that this City needs and if that's what you are trying to eliminate by
electing a Mayor you have just defeated your purpose. She stressed that the
voters of this community need to vote for Council people with the idea that
any one of them at any point and time would be serving as Mayor.
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MOVED BY METZE, SECONDED BY BRINLEY TO DENY THE
REQUEST TO PLACE THE ISSUE OF A DIRECT ELECTION OF
MAYOR IN THE NEXT POSSIBLE ELECTION.
Mayor Pape stated that at this time an elected Mayor would create an us
versus them attitude and is not something that builds cohesiveness and helps
the City to move forward. He noted a comment that was made regarding a
separate elected position for Mayor then the Fire Station would be built and
the fences down at the parks and explained that it would still take three
votes on Council to get anything done and it doesn't matter what one person
on Council thinks no matter what the title, it still takes three votes to get
anything done. He explained that it is used in larger cities because of larger
population and that way an individual representative has a better
opportunity to meet and work with his constituents instead of having so
many that it becomes unmanageable. He asked if it made sense to pull
$30,000 from reserves when the money could be used somewhere else. He
noted that the item presented to Council is not sufficient to allow anything
to be placed on the ballot and would have to be brought back before Council
and would not even make the June ballot. He further noted that this item is
more of a political move and in the past the item has been discussed several .
times. Mayor Pape stated that what may appear to be bold and benevolent
could also be very self - serving.
THE FOREGOING MOTION WAS APPROVE BY A 4 TO 1 VOTE WITH
ALONGI CASTING THE DISSENTING VOTE.
ITEMS PULLED FROM THE CONSENT CALENDAR
1. Minutes
a. Regular City Council Meeting - January 27. 1998. (F:44.4)
Mayor Pape noted an error on Page 6 of these Minutes and clarified that the
extra funding for additional water should be for the months of June, July,
August & September.
MOVED BY PAPE, SECONDED BY BRINLEY AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO APPROVE THE MINUTES AS CORRECTED.
b. Regular Cily Council Meeting - February 10, 1998. (F:44.4)
City Attorney Leibold corrected the Closed Session Announcements on the
Minutes of February 10, 1998, indicating that there were actually four
Closed Session items; with the fourth item reading "Directed Legal Counsel
to send a default letter to the lessee of a property, upon non - compliance
with an agreement." She further clarified that on Item Number 3, direction
was for staff to "pursue" legal action, in accordance with the Brown Act;
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and noted that all four items were directed upon unanimous action of the
Council.
MOVED BY METZE, SECONDED BY BRINLEY AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF FEBRUARY 10,
19989 AS CORRECTED.
3. Claims Against the City submitted by Kristopher Martin - CL #98 -3; Anita
Porter - CL #98 -4, Kathie Porter - CL #98 -5; Steven Buchanan - CL 498 -6;
Bridget Louiza - CL #98 -7. (F:52.2)
Councilman Alongi indicated that he pulled this item because all of these
claims are the result of potholes in the Community. He questioned the
interest the City receives on the reserves in the bank; and indicated that
action could have been taken to care for the problem areas. He stressed the
Council's responsibility to the Community.
MOVED BY ALONGI, SECONDED BY BRINLEY AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO REJECT AND REFER THE ABOVE LISTED
CLAIMS AND REFER TO THE CLAIMS ADMINISTRATOR FOR
HANDLING.
4. Proclamation - Mediation Week. (F:122.1)
Councilman Alongi indicated that Mediation is a joke with this Council, and
it is an absolute joke to see it on the agenda.
MOVED BY ALONGI, SECONDED BY BRINLEY AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO APPROVE THE MEDIATION WEEK
PROCLAMATION AND DIRECT STAFF TO FORWARD IT TO THE
REQUESTOR.
THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING WAS RECESSED AT 9:39 P.M.
THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING RECONVENED AT 9:46 P.M.
PUBLIC COMMENTS - NON - AGENDIZED ITEMS
Donna Lucas, announced the first open air market this Sunday, March 1 st and
detailed the event as proposed. She detailed the activities being offered from 7
a.m. to 3 p.m. and noted the street closure for the event. She further noted that the
weather will be good and the street will be full of vendors and entertainment. She
expressed hopes that the Councilmembers would attend.
Ace Vallejos, 15231 Cobre, expressed his disappointment with finding out that the
City filed an appeal on the Community of Interest. He indicated that it reminds
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him of Saddam Hussain, trying to dictate how they will live. He reiterated his
disappointment with the treatment of the Cleveland Ridge COI. He questioned
why the City Attorney did not attend the LAFCO hearing, but the City is spending
money to have her fight it. He stressed the number of registered voter signatures
collected, and suggested that the appeal is a waste of staff time.
Chris Hyland, 15191 Wavecrest Drive, indicated that she has been waiting for this
moment to address Mayor Pape and Mary Venerable. She suggested that in her
opinion they tried to humiliate and slander her. She indicated that the Mayor
showed favoritism to those who cater to him, by letting them speak more than
three minutes. She commented that she doesn't have to address the City Council,
but can address who she chooses. She indicated his problem is that thinks he is a
big wheel, but is really a small spoke. She commented that his hours at City Hall
and rallies is admirable, but it must take time away from his own business. She
addressed Mrs. Venerable who originally came to the Council with a grievance,
was appointed to the Task Force and flip- flopped. She indicated that Mrs.
Venerable has also slandered her and given misinformation. She indicated that if
the information is incorrect then City Hall and other agencies are providing
incorrect documents. She noted that she has videotapes of meetings since 1992.
She noted her rights under the first amendment.
CITY MANAGER COMMENTS
City Manager Watenpaugh introduced Bob Brady the City's new, Community
Development Director and commented that he is a great addition to the
community and staff. He noted the absence of Administrative Services Director
Boone, and indicated that Finance Manager Magee was present to represent
Finance.
CITY ATTORNEY COMMENTS
No Comments.
CITY COUNCIL COMMENTS
Mayor Pro Tem Kelley commented on the following:
1) Reminded the Council and Community about the Chamber of
Commerce Mixer on Thursday, February 26th at Chuckles Java
Junction.
2) Noted the season opening of girls softball, on Saturday, February
28th at 7 a.m.
3) Announced the Author's Tea at Chuckles for the Friends of the
Library.
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4) Noted that Visions and Views will be filmed on Main Street on
March 1 st; and the Historical Society will have an open house on
March 3rd.
Councilwoman Brinley commented on the following:
1) Noted a letter from the Office of Traffic and Safety regarding the
Grant Program for School Pedestrian Safety. She congratulated City
staff on completing the project agreement and congratulated City
Engineer O'Donnell on a job well done.
2) Noted Mrs. Venerable's past concerns which were expressed to the
City Council and indicated that she decided to bet involved in the
Community on the ballot measure issues. She noted that Mrs.
Venerable would rather be part of the solution than part of the
problem.
3) Reiterated that Visions and Views will be filmed on Main Street on
Sunday and include interviews with participants and attendees. She
extended an invitation for residents to write to Council with ideas for
future programs.
4) Indicated that the Wildomar Little League will be holding a Pancake
Breakfast and encouraged participation.
Councilman Metze commented on the following:
1) Indicated that Mrs. Venerable stood to pay more than the average
resident in the community for her business, if the ballot measures
would have passed. He noted that with regard to flip - flopping, Mrs.
Hyland was for and elected Mayor in the newspaper, then against an
elected Mayor and now again in support of the elected Mayor
concept.
Councilman Alongi commented on the following:
1) Responded to Councilman Metze regarding Mrs. Venerable's
business, and indicated that businesses don't pay the bill, the
consumer does.
2) Noted a family trip to Disneyland on Saturday with his
granddaughters and indicated that he came to the conclusion that it
would be a waste to die of high blood pressure because of what he is
doing. He further indicated that he gave it a lot of thought and has
come to the conclusion and made a birthday resolution as he did in
1980, that he doesn't give a damn what the Council has to say. He
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will do what he thinks is right, will bring forward the information he
feels is right; and can afford anything the Council does.
3) Addressed Councilman Metze and indicated that he shows his
ignorance; and needs to go to a law library and look at an accusation
vs. an indictment. He stressed the difference between criminal and
civil matters. He noted that the Council wants to get themselves
involved in his case, but he has decided that something is wrong with
the Government Code and is answering it his way. He suggested that
the Council needs to stop looking ignorant. He indicated with regard
to the FPPC it is a Government Code and has nothing to do with
crime, unless it involves negligence. He stressed that a decision he
made violated that Code, but it is not the business of the Council, and
does not impact his ability to perform as a Councilperson. He
indicated that he is the most successful person sitting on the Council.
He further indicated that he will still be here in 1999 and he will run
for Mayor in 1999. He commented that the City should be divided
into Districts.
4) Addressed Mayor Pro Tern Kelley regarding her concerns about the
Council and voting.
5) Noted that the Mayor says not much thought was given to the item
regarding the Mayor's position discussed; and suggested if he had
placed it on the regular agenda rather than Study Session there would
have been more time for analysis. He indicated that the
Councilmembers use the City Attorney to do things they themselves
know are wrong.
6) Addressed Roberts Rules of Order, and indicated that the Council
only abides by those rules which are beneficial to them. .
7) Addressed the Outflow Channel and noted efforts to buck the system
on Reclaimed Water. He noted the junk being deposited in the Lake
today and suggested that efforts should be focused on trying to find
legislation in Sacramento which would allow for an assessment on
the people dumping junk in the Lake. He stressed that if the rains
continue there will be flooding and questioned why it would not be
appropriate to open the levee and let the water go into the back basin
where it belongs, although it won't look good for Liberty. .
8) Addressed comments regarding the Redevelopment Agency, and
indicated that the problems are from paying someone else's bills. He
noted the sewers in the Amber Ridge Tract and stressed problems in
the Gunnerson/Strickland area with septic. He stressed that the funds
should be used within the Redevelopment Project Areas.
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9) Questioned why is the RDA is representing the Stadium, when the
City has more money invested. He further questioned whether the
City is any less responsible. He inquired where development is
taking place, what happened to the Water Park and the Racetrack; and
where all the taxes are coming from the pay the bills. He indicated
that if development were to start today, it would be three years before
the City would see a dime from any of the taxes. He reiterated that
he is just going to give the information whether people believe it or
not; and he could care less what the rest of the Council has to say. He
indicated that he will beat the accusations one by one. He reiterated
that he will still be on the Council in 1999, but the Council is too
dumb to understand the system; and expressed doubts that Jay Orr
had figured it out either. He indicated that in the future he will get an
"A" in conduct. .
10) Indicated that it is a shame about the fire station, but that is how the
Council justifies putting the residents in danger.
11) Addressed a statement by Councilman Metze, that because ... Mr.
Alongi has money, he will rob you of your rights. He questioned if it
was a crime to have money and rights. He indicated that people
with money who can afford an attorney fight the system; but
Councilman Metze would rob people of their rights because they
have money. He noted that he is willing to invest every dime he has,
but he wants one person to say he has gained from his work in the
community and show him where he did so. He commented that he is
proud of his efforts to provide housing. He reiterated that from here
on, Mr. Alongi will be absolutely wonderful. He thanked staff, for
their efforts on Saturday and Sunday nights in the rain. He indicated
that the City has a great staff out there, and they are dedicated
employees working to keep the roads safe.
Mayor Pape commented on the following:
1) Congratulated Administrative Services Director Boone and his staff
for and award on outstanding financial accounting and offered kudos
to finance staff.
2) Noted for the sake of Mayor Pro Tem Kelley that the term she used
was "inherent ", not intelligent.
3) Noted the comments regarding LAFCO and indicated that there is no
interest in annexing anyone who does not what to be annexed. He
stressed that it is completely up to the residents. He commented that
he has no more authority than any of the other Councilmembers and it
always takes three votes to accomplish anything.
4) Indicated that there is a difference between "indictment" and
"accusation ", but it is easy to confuse the two words, as Councilman
Alongi did during the grand jury discussion. He suggested that when
there is discussion of corruption in office there is no sense in splitting
hairs. He stressed that there has been a violation of the Civil Code,
and Councilman Alongi's admission makes it an easy job for the
District Attorney.
CLOSED SESSION
a. Anticipated Litigation - 1 Case (Pursuant to Government Code Section
54956.9(b))
City Attorney Leibold announced the Closed Session case and the related
authority.
THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING WAS ADJOURNED TO CLOSED
SESSION AT 10:15 P.M..
COUNCILMAN ALONGI LEFT THE MEETING AT 10;17 P.M.
THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING RECONVENED AT 10:34 P.M., WITH
THE FOLLOWING ANNOUNCEMENT:
THE FOUR COUNCILMEMBERS PRESENT UNANIMOUSLY
DIRECTED LEGAL COUNSEL TO RESPOND TO
CORRESPONDENCE IN CONJUNCTION WITH AN ITEM OF
ANTICIPATED LITIGATION.
ADJOURNMENT
MOVED BY BRINLEY, SECONDED BY METZE AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO ADJOURN THE
REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING AT .35 P.M.
VIN W. PA E, MAYOR
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORI
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CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
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MINUTES
REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
183 NORTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA
TUESDAY, MARCH 10, 1998
CALL TO ORDER
The Regular City Council Meeting was called to order by Mayor Pape at 7:04 p.m.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Councilman Metze.
INVOCATION
The Invocation was provided by Pastor Joe Rivera, representing Pressing on Faith
Ministry.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT:
ABSENT:
COUNCILMEMBERS
COUNCILMEMBERS:
ALONGI, BRINLEY,
KELLEY, METZE,
PAPE
NONE
Also present were: City Manager Watenpaugh, City Attorney Leibold,
Administrative Services Director Boone, Community Development Director Brady,
Community Services Director Sapp, Assistant to the City Manager Best, Police
Chief Walsh, City Engineer O'Donnell, Public Works Manager Payne and City
Clerk Kasad.
PRESENTATIONS
None.
PUBLIC COMMENTS - AGENDIZED ITEMS
Requests were received to address the following items and deferred to those
discussions:
Item Nos. 4, 21 and 22.
CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS
The following items were pulled from the Consent Calendar for f4raier discussion
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and consideration:
Item Nos. 4 and 7.
City Manager Watenpaugh noted that Item 7 will probably be back for
consideration on May 24th.
MOVED BY BRINLEY, SECONDED BY KELLEY AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO APPROVE THE BALANCE OF THE CONSENT
CALENDAR AS PRESENTED.
1. The following Minutes were approved:
a. Joint City Council/Redevelopment Agency Study Session - January 20,
1998.
b. City Council Study Session - February 12, 1998. (F:44.4)
The following Minutes were received and ordered filed:
C. Planning Commission Meeting - February 18, 1998. (F:60.3)
d. Design Review Committee Meeting - February 18, 1998.(F:60.4)
2. Ratified Warrant List for February 27, 1998. (F:12.3)
3 Received & Ordered filed the Investment Report for January, 1998. (F:12.5)
5. Authorized Declaration of Weeds, Rubbish, Refuse and Dirt as a Nuisance -
Notification to Property Owners and Adopted Resolution No. 98 -4. (F:166.1)
RESOLUTION NO. 98-4
A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA, ESTABLISHING WEED
ABATEMENT ASSESSMENT LIENS AND DECLARING THAT
CERTAIN WEEDS, RUBBISH, REFUSE AND DIRT AS DEFINED IN
SECTION 14875 OF THE HEALTH AND SAFETY CODE OF THE
STATE OF CALIFORNIA AND CHAPTER 8.32 OF THE LAKE
ELSINORE MUNICIPAL CODE CONSTITUTE A NUISANCE AND
REQUIRE A NOTICE TO BE GIVEN TO THE PROPERTY OWNER
IN ACCORDANCE WITH DIVISION 12, PART 5, CHAPTER 2, OF
THE HEALTH AND SAFETY CODE OF THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA AND CHAPTER 8.32 OF THE LAKE ELSINORE
MUNICIPAL CODE AND PROVIDING FOR A HEARING ON
OBJECTIONS, TOGETHER WITH FILING OF COST REPORTS
AND ASSESSMENTS AGAINST ABUTTING PROPERTY OWNERS.
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6. Approved Final Parcel Map 28712, subject to the City Engineer's acceptance
as being true and correct and acceptance of all dedications at time of
recordation; authorized the City Clerk to sign the map and arrange for
recordation. (F:110.2)
7. (This item was pulled from the agenda, to be scheduled at a later date). Set
Public Hearing date of March 24, 1998, for the following:
a. General Plan Amendment No 98 -1 and Zone Change 98 -1 - Rancon.
A request to change the General Plan Land Use Designation and
Zoning of approximately 9.11 acres (APN 373- 071 -018) from Medium
High Density Residential to General Commercial land use and from R-
3 (High Density Residential) Zoning to C -2 (General Commercial)
Zoning. (F:83.2)(X:172.2)
APPEALS
21. Appeal of Planning Commission Action (Condition #15) Conditional Use
Permit 97 -9 - Golf Driving Range. (F :21.1)
City Manager Watenpaugh noted that this is an appeal of Condition #15, for
which the applicant is requesting a waiver of the fee required for street
improvements. He noted that the Municipal Code would require street
improvements upon renovation of the existing buildings. He suggested that
since this is a temporary use, the fees could be reevaluated at five years. He
recommended approval of the requested waiver.
Dean Patterman, representing the applicant, reiterated that the project is
proposed as a temporary use and they feel that the fees are not necessary at
this time. He noted that the ultimately developer would be responsible for
the required improvements.
Susan Hori, 19100 Von Karman, Irvine, submitted a letter for the record on
behalf of TMC Communities and noted that the purpose of letter was to
ensure that any project would be developed and implemented consistent with
the specific plan.
Leroy Tucker, 3532 Cherry Blossom Lane, noted that he is a golfer and
stressed the need for practice facilities in the area. He indicated that this was
a good area for a driving range and he would like to see it approved.
Councilwoman Brinley noted that since this is just a temporary use, she could
see allowing the applicant to proceed without paying the fees at this time.
She indicated that she would like to see the addition of a condition to replace
the current Condition No. 15, so that when he comes back at the end of five
years, that there is a requirement for half or the total of the fees at that time.
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She indicated that this would be a safety net for the City, and after five years
a project tends to be more permanent.
Councilman Alongi inquired what would happen if this project was approved
for five years and Liberty decided to start this area in three years. He
questioned if this Conditional Use Permit can be voided. City Attorney
Leibold indicated that Condition No. 2 provides that if there is earlier activity
that would conflict with this use, the Community Development Director has
the authority to pull the permit.
Mayor Pro Tem Kelley indicated that she has no problem with this approval
since it is a temporary use.
MOVED BY BRINLEY, SECONDED BY METZE AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO WAIVE THE FEES FOR THE FIRST FIVE
YEARS, WITH THE CAVEAT THAT AT REQUEST FOR EXTENSION
THE FEES WOULD BE WORKED OUT AS APPLICABLE AT THE TIME.
City Attorney Leibold clarified that after the first five years there would be
annual renewals up to a maximum of five years.
22. Appeal of Design Review Committee (DRC) Action on Febru= 4 1998 for
201 N Main Street Change of Sign Face, Request for "Church of Christ".
(F:21.1)
City Manager Watenpaugh highlighted this request and explained the prior
approvals for a church. He noted that the sign was originally approved for
repairs which did not occur and the sign was not grandfathered in. He
indicated that the Planning Commission is recommending that the sign be
brought into compliance rather than allowing the sign face to be removed.
Chris Pederson, Temecula resident, indicated that in the discussion they did
not know what was going on, but it did appear that a major concern of the
Design Review Committee was the disrepair of the existing sign. He
suggested that it was a very unfortunate misunderstanding, but from his
knowledge the sign was always in good repair. He noted that they have
already expended about $1,000 for new sign faces; and indicated that they are
willing to accept any compromise such as a limited time, non - illumination,
etc. He noted discussion by DRC regarding the potential of it being used for
advertising, but that is not the intended use. He advised that they do not
participate in any secular activities, provide food or shelter, or even hold
potlucks in their building. He stressed that they plan to be good neighbors
and requested further consideration.
Councilman Alongi questioned when this group purchased the church and
whether they ever applied to occupy it as a different church. Mr. Pederson
indicated that they did a considerable amount of investigation prior to
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purchasing the building. Councilman Alongi inquired who told them that the
existing permit went with the building. Mr. Pederson indicated that it was
either Senior Planner Villa or another staff member. Councilman Alongi
inquired whether the sign was an issue at that time. Mr. Pederson indicated
that it was not a major issue at that time, but they were told that proper
lettering would be required. Councilman Alongi questioned the timing of
obtaining a permit from DRC. Mr. Pederson indicated they had the sign
made, but did so before they had approval for the new sign. Councilman
Alongi inquired why they felt it necessary to have a sign of that size and why
they need to advertise. Mr. Pederson indicated that it was not viewed as a
particularly large sign, but merely the place for the sign. He stressed that the
sign had the old church's name on it. Councilman Alongi inquired if when
the application was made to DRC, they submitted any drawings of the facade
and sign. Mr. Pederson indicated he didn't believe they did, but there was a
report from a private application which described the landscaping in some
detail. He noted that an application was in file from a prior request.
Councilman Alongi expressed concern that type of sign was not
grandfathered in. Mr. Pederson indicated that he was not certain what
"grandfathered" meant. Councilman Alongi clarified the term.
Councilwoman Brinley questioned Community Development Director Brady
and requested assurance with regard to how the process would proceed. Mr.
Brady indicated that the owner of the sign would be given the opportunity to
remove it, and if it is not removed the City could abate it and have removed.
Councilwoman Brinley indicated that since the sign is not grandfathered, she
would like to see it conform with the Overlay District. She suggested that
the sign appears to be a commercial sign and does not fit with the design for
the area. She concurred with the Design Review Committee comments on
this sign.
Mayor Pape inquired whether the Committee received the same information
provided to Council. Community Development Director Brady confirmed.
Mayor Pro Tent Kelley noted the downtown design standards and stressed
the importance of maintaining those standards and stressed that this was a
non - conforming sign to begin with. She further stressed the need to stick
with the standards as set. Mr. Pederson noted the material provided by staff
which says in the analysis that it was grandfathered in. Councilwoman
Brinley stressed that the sign was never grandfathered in.
City Attorney Leibold noted that as she understands the free - standing sign
was determined to be a legal non - conforming use when the standards were
adopted; however if the face of the sign is changed then the legal non-
conforming status is revoked and the sign must comply with the most up to
date standards. Community D- ,ve ?opment Director Brady confirmed that this
was the case.
Councilman Metze indicated that he would like to see both signs brought into
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conformance with the Overlay District standards. He noted other signs
which should be addressed as well, and stressed the importance of holding
everyone to the set standards. He noted that it would have really helped if a
business license had been obtained, so they could have been advised of the
requirements in advance; and indicated that he believed a letter was in the
mail.
MOVED BY BRINLEY, SECONDED BY METZE AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO DENY THE APPEAL FOR THE CHURCH OF
CHRIST SIGNAGE.
BUSINESS ITEMS
City Manager Watenpaugh noted the City has been involved in this Grant
process for quite some time and has received approval of grant, awarded for
$40,000. He explained that the item before Council is a request to approve
the low bid and authorize staff to expend up to the $40,000 for additional
equipment as necessary. He requested Community Services Director Sapp to
address the item. Community Services Director Sapp introduced Sergeant
Paul Brinkman, the new Sergeant in charge of Lake Patrol and noted that
Sergeant Brinkman is a certified diver with a great deal of experience.
Sergeant Brinkman thanked Council for the opportunity to speak and
presented an overview of what has been done to date. He stated that he
began his career in Lake Elsinore in 1976, on patrol; has been on two target
teams; and detailed his career with the department. He stressed that Lake
Elsinore is home for him and that he has been working with the Coast Guard
Auxiliary to provide more patrol and protection on the Lake. Sergeant
Brinkman stressed the need for volunteer eyes and ears and is also working
with LEMSAR. He stated that it is his hope that all law enforcement will be
scuba qualified in the City to allow for everyone to respond correctly. He
indicated that he is working on another state grant for a large pontoon boat
for use in Search and Rescue, evacuation and Lake maintenance. He noted
that he is also working with State agencies to promote the Lake. Sergeant
Brinkman stated that he is looking forward to working with Council.
MOVED BY METZE, SECONDED BY BRINLEY AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO APPROVE THE BID FROM ALUMAWELD IN
THE AMOUNT OF $329792.00 FOR THE PURCHASE OF A PATROL
BOAT AND AUTHORIZE STAFF TO SPEND UP TO THE GRANT
AMOUNT OF $40,000 ON STATE APPROVED CHANGE ORDERS THAT
MAY OCCUR DURING THE PATROL BOAT'S CONSTRUCTION.
32.
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Mayor Pape noted that the City received a letter requesting that the Council
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appoint a representative to the Committee to discuss issues and options for
the proposed Education Park.
MOVED BY PAPE, SECONDED BY BRINLEY AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO APPOINT MAYOR PRO TEM KELLEY TO THE
TMC EDUCATION PARK COMMITTEE.
Mayor Pro Tern Kelley accepted this appointment.
ITEM PULLED FROM CONSENT CALENDAR
4. Claim Against the City - Fernando & Sandra Frausto - CL #98-8. (F:52.2)
John Seepe, 15631 Half Moon Drive, noted that at the last meeting
Councilman Alongi made a commitment to the community and it was
received with open arms. He noted discussion at the last meeting of public
safety, and suggested that the words fell on deaf ears. He commented that
the Council was "unfortunately" appointed as the guardians of the City, and
noted recent comments by the Mayor to Wildomar and Cleveland Ridge. He
questioned why the City would challenge the COI status and stressed that the
residents expect public safety, pothole repair, etc., but the Council is more
concerned with annexing more property. He indicated that he would like to
see a higher level of services provided for existing residents. He suggested
that the Council take down the fences, fix the roads, belly up to the
responsibilities for the roads and take care of that first.
Mayor Pape indicated that he was not certain how these comments applied to
the agenda item, but stressed that no annexation can occur without resident
approval, the fences are down at the parks and as soon as the rain stops there
will be some major road repairs done through the spring and summer. He
further stressed that permanent road repairs can not be made while it is
raining, noting that every other city also has potholes in the rain.
Councilwoman Brinley questioned the legal procedures with this type of
claim and the process. City Attorney Leibold noted that the standard
procedure is to send Claims to Carl Warren and they make the
recommendation which is presented to the City Council; and the
recommendation stands for the Insurance Authority and Adjuster.
City Manager Watenpaugh noted that a contractor will be out fixing potholes
the next three days, but commented that there can be problems during heavy
rains. He advised that park fences are now down or coming down and being
relocated. He pointed out that the School District required that the fence be
reinstall at Terra Cotta to secure their campus.
MOVED BY METZE, SECONDED BY BRINLEY AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO REJECT AND REFER THE ABOVE LISTED
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CLAIM TO THE CLAIMS ADMINISTRATOR FOR HANDLING.
THE REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING WAS RECESSED AT 7:45
P.M.
THE REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING RECONVENED AT 7:49
P.M.
PUBLIC!COMMENTS - NON - AGENDIZED ITEMS
Chris Hyland, 15191 Wavecrest Drive, questioned why Clairmont Research, which
is TMC's Public Relations firm is involved in our Library. She noted a meeting
which was held in January, hosted by Clairmont Research and the citizens of the
area of TMC Development regarding the telecommunications affects of the Liberty
Project and further noted a letter which addressed a Magnate School System
proposed for the Liberty Project. She read a portion of the letter and asked when
they will be moving into City Hall. She also read portions of a letter from CalTrans
addressing the Liberty Project and the denial of their requests that were presented
and she noted that FEMA is not going to lower the minimum elevation below 1260'.
Ms. Hyland noted that the letter from Cal Trans required submittal of the current
Specific and Grading Plans for the entire back basin to insure that the back basin
storage capacity is maintained. She summarized by saying that she want the public
to know that TMC may be in a little bit of trouble.
Jim Gray, 15159 Mimosa Drive, noted the amount of people at Summer Lake Park
and stated that he felt that the Council has been holding the citizens hostage for the
last seven months to gain higher taxes. He noted that the activity in the parks shows
that there is money for the parks and now that the Agreement has gone in for the
Stadium there is now money for the West End Fire Station. He stated that in his
opinion the Library is not going to have the necessary costs met to move into the
Wells Fargo building for $150,000. He noted that it will cost more line with
$300,000 and cautioned Council to be very careful of the bids and how the project
is handled.
Lee Bowen, 17445 Sunnyslope, noted that he has purchased property in Country
Club Heights and did a lot merger to facilitate building and now find that they are
required to deed a street easement of ten feet and explained that the septic lines
would have to be located in that same ten feet which would prevent them from
building since to relocate the leach lines would place them too close to the proposed
home. He stated that the only way to resolve this issue is to come before Council
and request a waiver which will be placed on City Council Agenda in two weeks
and asked that Council consider approval.
Lauri Breveleri, 32485 Ortega Highway, stated that she has lived in the Lake
Elsinore area for the last three and one -half and feels that she has lost all that she
has had due to lack of cooperation of the law. She further stated that she has a
briefcase full of violations against the City. She explained that she is in serious
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trouble and is tired of being pushed around due to lawlessness. She noted that the
Constitution of the United States, clearly states that when any form of government
fails to do it's job it is the right of one person to abolish or alter the government.
Ms. Breveleri stated that either the City Council will speak to her like a human
being and quit treating her like some low life scum bag or she will take action. She
fiuther stated that the duration of her stay in Lake Elsinore will be spent on
correcting a system gone wrong. She noted the Meeting where Councilman Alongi
was removed from the dias and reminded Council that a house divided is a house
fallen and this should be addressed. She stated that she wants to make Lake
Elsinore a better place for our children and for people like her who did not deserve
the unjustified destruction of herself as a human being. She stated that she expects
one or more of Council to contract her so that she can get her situation straightened
up. She stated that she is putting this in God's hands.
John Langdon, 32400 Racquet Club Way, representing Serenity Housing Tract,
stated that on February 10, 1998, his Father submitted 82 signature, signed by the
residents of Serenity opposing the development of the Motor Cross Park. He stated
that it has come to his attention that the project had already been approved on
February 2, 1998. He asked why they were not notified and told prior to February
10, why this was not passed and clearly shows wrong doing on the part of the City.
He asked if there has been an Environmental Impact Report and asked for a copy.
He noted the future plans of the Liberty Housing Tract and asked how well Council
thinks the homes will sell if they are located near a Motor Cross Park. He asked for
a response to his requests on behalf of Serenity Homes.
CITY MANAGER COMMENTS
City Manager Watenpaugh advised that the Manufacturer's Council will be hosting
their meeting at the Diamond Stadium, March 11, 1998, at 7:00 a.m. He noted that
the Inland Empire is recognizing the corridor in Lake Elsinore and the amount of
activities taking place in our community.
CITY ATTORNEY COMMENTS
City Attorney Leibold commented on the following:
1. Advised that she will be announcing closed session topics at a later
time.
2. Addressed the Moto -Cross project and noted that it is only an interim
use until future development occurs; with the terms being three years or
until the issuance of a building permit for the model homes for the
Liberty Tract.
CITY COUNCIL COMMENT
Mayor Pro Tem Kelley commented on the following:
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1. Noted the Wells Fargo Bank Building was purchased by the County of
Riverside for $310,000; the County is working in partnership with the
City; the City's part is the $150,000 that is in the Library Account
which has been collected through developer's fees specifically for the
Library; the money from the City will be used to bring the building up
to code and to remodel it to facilitate the Library use. She stated that
at this time the City is negotiating with the County since the City would
like to own the building and should the City purchase the building from
the County, the City will use future mitigation fees to make payment.
She stated that if the County retains ownership, then the City will be a
partner with them.
Councilman Metze commented on the following:
1. Requested staff to schedule a Study Session to address the return of the
Water Task Force to deal with water shed and water quality issues. He
stated that at that time goals and objective will be presented to Council
and the Water Task Force. He noted that it is time to address these
issues.
Councilman Alongi commented on the following:
1. Noted that prior to buying property, it is best to check the area to
ascertain the restrictions. He stated that Country Club Heights is a
very difficult area to build in and that is the reason why so few build in
that area. He stated that the restrictions are not necessarily from the
City, but from the County and State as well. He explained that in his
opinion, when the Council starts to approve variances in that area he
feels that it will put the City in a bad position since one variance leads
to another and before you know it there will be substandard building in
Country Club Heights through reducing the minimum requirements.
2. Noted that potholes speak for themselves.
3. Addressed the people who have called him about the Vons Market
going in where the Ortega Market is located. He stated that he has
talked to the City Manager and he has no knowledge of it. He asked
that he not receive anymore calls about the Vons Market.
4. Noted the statements that the City cannot use the Library Funds for
anything but the Library. He stated that the statement is true, however
it is not a statement of truth. He explained that there was well over
$300,000 in that account and the City borrowed $200,000 to balance
the budget. He further explained that there are areas where the City
does shift funds around and this is not saying it was wrong because at
the time the City needed it to balance the budget, however there are
areas where cities, counties and the State do play games with their
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financing. He further stated that it is not wrong, however the
governments should be up -front with the people.
5. Addressed USA Properties and noted the quality of the units that are
being built.
6. Commented on CFD 88 -3 and noted a tax bill that was given to him by
Mr. Davis and of the total amount is $3,200 of which $1,700 is for
CFD 88 -3. He noted that the people that live in the CFD 88 -3 have
paid their share and have paid for that fire station and it should be built.
He stated that it is up to the City to try and figure out how to pay for
the staffing. He further stated that it is the responsibility of the City to
provide services and not to create reserves because we think something
might happen.
7. Noted that there are different ways to interpret laws and stated his
surprise that a General Manager of a Cable Company would come to a
City Council regarding her concerns. He stated that she could have
written a letter to the Mayor or City Manager regarding profanity,
however she came to the Council Meeting and lied to the Council and
public. He noted Media One's agreement with the City and read from
Ordinance 855, page 4, Item T, and stated that in the agreement it does
not mean "unless there is profanity" and does not give the General
Manager the right to censor nor deny the public the right to view the
Council Meeting. He noted that if the public wishes to pay $29 to
Media One then it is O.K. to get a smut movie through their service.
He stated that it does not bother Media One if children see it then. He
stated that he felt that it was irresponsible of the General Manager to
come to the Council Meeting and insult the people, when she herself
does not know the definition of profanity and what everyone thinks
profanity is. He noted that there are certain words that he has never
heard come from the podium or the dias. Councilman Alongi stated
that if the General Manager of Media One has a problem with the
language used at a Council Meeting, then she should use a disclaimer
which warns that the program may not be suitable for youngsters.
8. Addressed the Disposition and Development Agreement for Liberty
Project and noted that the agreement states that they will get no direct
taxes from the City. He noted that all the tax increment from the
Liberty Project goes back to pay for the Capitol Improvements. He
stated that the money would normally come back to the
Redevelopment Agency so that it would relieve the City of it's
liabilities and would also allow the City to build the Redevelopment
Agency for work that our staff does. He noted that the $1.2 million
that the City use to get, we don't get anymore, therefore our parks,
police and fire services suffer because the City can't get reimbursed
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from the RDA. He noted that the RDA doesn't have the money
because we keep giving it away. He noted another area of the DDA
which allows Liberty to use City property to guarantee improvements.
9. Thanked staff for the repair job on the alley behind the Texaco Station.
He stated that he received compliments from the people in the area and
he does appreciate that.
Councilwoman Brinley commented on the following:
1. Addressed Mr. Gray's comments regarding the parks being held
hostage and stated that it was never at any time the intent of Council to
hold the parks hostage to keep our children from playing to raise taxes.
She noted that Council had to look for new sources of revenue due to
the loss of funds from the Lighting and Landscaping District. She
noted the efforts of Council to free up money to reopen the parks and
now Council can implement their plan with the Agreement from the
Stadium. She noted that the parks will not be able to be maintained as
they were in the past, however the City is doing the best that they can
with the funds available.
2. Addressed Ms. Breveleri's comments and stated that the issues that she
presents should be addressed at the County level since the City has no
jurisdiction in her area.
3. Addressed Councilman Alongi's statements regarding the actions of
the General Manager of Media One and noted that it was stated by the
General Manager that Councilman Alongi has the right to free speech,
however Media One reserves the right not to broadcast the program if
it is found to be offensive and profanity is offensive. Councilwoman
Brinley stated that there is nothing in the Franchise that states that any
Member of Council has the right to sit at the dias and swear at the
community or allow that type of language to go to their homes. She
stated that what the General Manager was doing was exercising her
right to deny service to prevent the broadcast of profanity.
4. Thanked the Chamber of Commerce and the Down Town Business
people for the Open Air Market that was held on March 1. She noted
that there were over 2,500 people and noted the sales. She stated that
it was a great day.
5. Stated that the Chamber of Commerce is sponsoring the Circus and
gave an overview of the activities that will be presented. She
encouraged everyone in the community to attend. She stated that for
more information call the Chamber of Commerce for date, time and
price. Mayor Pro Tem Kelley stated that it is on Saturday, April 18,
and the City will be filming Visions and Views.
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6. Announced that the Chamber will be holding a Monte Carlo Night at
the Diamond Stadium on Saturday, March 28, 1998, at 7:00 p.m.,
$15.00 a person which includes 100 free chips and hors d'oeuvres.
Mayor Pape commented on the following:
1. Commented on the Opening Ceremony for Girl's Softball two
weekends ago and Little League Grand Opening last weekend. He
noted that it was a lot of fun and good to see the children on the fields
making memories that will last a lifetime.
2. Noted that it is time for weed abatement and reminded the property
owners in the City that they have until May 4 to clean and abate weeks.
He stated that if the City does the abatement there is an administrative
fee of $250. He further noted that it is less expensive if the property
owners do it themselves. He stated that due to the rains this year the
weed have had a head start and asked that it be addressed as soon as
possible to prevent fire problems.
3. Noted that the Parks are open and in use by the various youth sports
which was made possible by the Stadium Agreement.
4. Commented on the girl injured and noted that when she goes back to
school the parents should feel more secure due to the location of the
ambulance /paramedics to Terra Cotta Middle School and their ability
to respond to that site since they are located near four comers.
5. Responded to comments regarding Media One and the use of profanity
at City Council Meetings. He stated that it is embarrassing and the
public is entitled to have a "G" rated City Council Meeting and
Council.
CLOSED SESSION
a. CONFERENCE WITH LEGAL COUNSEL - ANTICIPAI ED LIThiATI, 1i
(Initiation of litigation pursuant to subdivision ( c ) of Section 54956.9 (1
Case).
b. CONFERENCE WITH LEGAL COUNSEL - EXISTING LITIGATION
(Subdivision ( a ) of Section 54956.9):
Koliber vs. Elsinore Valley MWD, et al - Case #217976
Harvey & Page, et al. vs. Elsinore Valley Municipal Water District, et
al. - Case 215768.
City Attorney Leibold announced the above listed items for discussion in closed
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session..
THE REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING WAS ADJOURNED TO
CLOSED SESSION AT 8:25 P.M.
THE REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING RECONVENED AT 8:55
P.M. WITH THE FOLLOWING ANNOUNCEMENTS:
A. LEGAL COUNSEL REVIEWED THE STATUS OF THE CITY'S
REQUEST FOR RECONSIDERATION OF THE LAFCO
DESIGNATION OF CLEVELAND RIDGE AS AN
UNINCORPORATED COMMUNITY AND COUNCIL DIRECTED
THE CITY ATTORNEY, BY A VOTE OF 4 TO 1, TO ATTEND THE
LAFCO HEARING AT WHICH THE ITEM IS TO BE HEARD.
(F:52.1)
B. SPECIAL LEGAL COUNSEL PROVIDED AN UPDATE ON THE
LITIGATION AND THE COUNCIL UNANIMOUSLY DIRECTED
LEGAL COUNSEL AND THE CITY MANAGER TO PURSUE
SETTLEMENT NEGOTIATIONS.
ADJOURNMENT
MOVED BY KELLEY, SECONDED BY BRINLEY AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO ADJOURN THE REGULAR CITY COUNCIL
MEETING AT 8:58 P.M.
VIN W. PA E, MAYOR
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
ATTEST:
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VICKI KASAD, CITY CLERK
CI'T'Y OF LAKE ELSINORE
MINUTES
CITY COUNCIL STUDY SESSION
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
183 NORTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA
TUESDAY, MARCH 17, 1998
CALL TO ORDER
The City Council Study Session was called to order by Mayor Pape at 3:11 p.m.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Mayor Pro Tem Kelley.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: BRINLEY, KELLEY,
METZE, PAPE
ABSENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: ALONGI
Also present were: Assistant to the City Manager Best, Administrative
Services Director Boone, Community Development Director Brady,
Community Services Director Sapp, Police Chief Walsh, Assistant City
Attorney Mann and City Clerk Kasad.
DISCUSSION ITEM
A. Economic Development Plan. (17:70.1)
Assistant to the City Manager Best noted that staff would like to start with a
very brief overview of the last two hour session on Economic Development.
Lee Hanson, Associate Professor of Management at Cal State University, San
Bernardino, noted his past visits to the area and indicated that Lake Elsinore
reminds him of California in 1955. He addressed a handout on Economic
Gardening and detailed its contents. He compared the definition of Economic
Development in 1942 to the current definition. He stressed the past efforts to
recruit business from outside the Community and contrasted it with the
Economic Gardening approach of assisting existing local businesses and
entrepreneurs. He indicated that the 21st Century will be a world of high
technology, high income entrepreneurship. He fiurther indicated that the
Inland Empire is seeking to pursue Economic Development via technology
transfer from the Universities. He encouraged the City Council to allow the
Community to become a demonstration project for establishment of an
Economic Gardening Program, noting that the larger aim is to launch this
process in other communities as well. He detailed the priorities for an
Economic Gardening Program and presented slides portraying an Economic
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Gardening Strategy for Lake Elsinore. He suggested that the vigorous
pursuit of this program would greatly assist in the promotion of local
businesses.
Assistant to the City Manager Best noted a second handout and indicated that
the Council just received the document, which is a draft agenda report for the
next City Council Meeting should the Council choose to move forward with
the program. She highlighted the definition of Economic Development and
the perspective the staff would like to implement. She next highlighted the
need for change in assisting local industries, and noted the Economic Action
Plan presented in the packet. She indicated that shifts need to occur
statewide and suggested the City address those shifts and participate in them.
She indicated that staff would like to see support of regional efforts in the
Inland Empire, as well as initiation of a grass roots effort through the
Chamber of Commerce. She commented on the impacts of area
demographics on the ability to draw additional services, and encouraged
participation in the process. She advised that staff has become aware of a
number of businesses in the area with a large potential for growth, and
suggested flexibility in the program to make it work better. She indicated
that staff would like to see Council consider a new motto for economic
development purposes. Mayor Pape questioned suggested new mottos. Ms.
Best indicated that there are no proposals yet, as staff is seeking Council
input. She stressed the need to establish a better system for tracking business
activity, to pull together relevant statistics. She indicated that the City of
Temecula is heavily pursuing the ability to have a regional center in their
community, but noted the potential for an "Incubator" site in the City of Lake
Elsinore and detailed the services which could be provided by such a facility.
She suggested that the focus be the quality of life factors and the potential for
drawing services to increase conveniences for the residents. She also
highlighted,an existing business attraction effort in the City of Corona.
Assistant to the City Manager Best stressed the need for coordinated efforts
to get to know the business people. She noted the Redevelopment Agency
goals and applicability of this proposal to those goals. She indicated that
staff would like to reinstitute a Mortgage Assistance Program, and detailed
ongoing efforts to address business vacancies. She commented that
Temecula and Corona both have strong economies and staff would hope to
draw on those; and noted phone calls being received from potential
businesses. She highlighted the grass roots efforts by the Chamber of
Commerce and assistance being requested from the County Board of
Supervisors. She indicated that the City is looking at a $30,000 study, and
expressed hopes for funding from the County. She noted that the City is
nearing funding for the housing element through the C.D.B.G. program.
Mayor Pape questioned whether the survey would be the first step in the
Gardening effort. Ms. Best confirmed and indicated that some of that
information will be used to solicit like businesses from other areas. She
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noted an existing small business cluster who is trying to foster that type of
growth, and stressed the potential for pooled resources to obtain more
opportunities to bid with larger companies.
Councilwoman Brinley indicated that flexibility was fine, but stressed that she
would not want the guidelines to be too loose. She further indicated that she
would be looking for a monitoring system to back up staff. She questioned if
this would be pursued as a Tri- Valley effort with Murrieta to band the valley
together. Ms. Best confirmed that would be the intent. Councilwoman
Brinley further questioned the monitoring system. Ms. Best indicated that
staff hopes to make more people aware of the needs and stimulate support for
the effort.
Councilman Metze noted that he is all for the flexibility, but the majority of
problems has been with the huge projects. He requested clarification of the
efforts of "Lake Elsinore Connections" and the "BDC ". Ms. Best explained
the Committee. Councilman Metze indicated that while it might be narrow-
minded, he wants to see the cities of Lake Elsinore and Canyon Lake band
together and suggested that it is vital that Lake Elsinore Connections do
something similar. He stressed the importance of everyone agreeing to buy
into the same thing. Ms. Best concurred and indicated that the Connections
group traditionally looks at regional efforts in the Lake Elsinore Unified
School District area. Councilman Metze stressed that Canyon Lake would
be vital to the program, as it is a complimentary situation. Councilwoman
Brinley concurred.
Mayor Pro Tem Kelley indicated that a global approach is more powerful,
and noted the potential for workforce training. She further noted the potential
for use of distance learning, but stressed the need for more information on
what materials will be needed in the future. Ms. Best indicated that will be
done, but stressed that it is based on finding out what is needed and what
industries to address.
Councilwoman Brinley addressed the global effect, but stressed the need to
address local issues, suggesting that the Tri- Valley approach will be more
attractive to local residents.
Mr. Hansen addressed the IE -21 program and its applications to this situation;
and stressed the need to get a handle on interested Pacific Rim businesses.
He expressed hopes that within a year or so there will be a more coherent
picture of how to encourage companies to come to the local area. He noted
interest in pushing the export opportunities, and suggested that regret will be
felt with regard to the loss of rail service to the area. Mr. Hansen indicated
that if the valley was an export zone there would be more participants,
making it more powerful.
Mayor Pro Tem Kelley questioned the intent of the survey. Ms. Best clarified
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the initial survey to be presented and noted that pre -calls will be made so
businesses will be expecting it. She provided examples of the types of
questions proposed for the survey including the need for training, types of
businesses and quality of life issues. She indicated that the first intent is
merely to get responses, while future surveys will be more face to face with
more follow through. She stressed the need for a friendly approach with
initial surveys. Councilman Metze suggested follow -up phone calls; and
offered kudos to the Lake Elsinore and Canyon Lake Chambers of Commerce
for their work to date.
Councilwoman Brinley questioned whether staff would be assessing how to
rebuild and revitalize shopping areas. Ms. Best concurred that there was
potential for elimination of blight. Councilwoman Brinley stressed the areas
needing improvement.
Mayor Pape inquired based on the improving economy and being business
friendly if Mr. Hansen would concur that most entrepreneurs just want to
know the requirements and are not so much looking for handouts. Mr.
Hansen confirmed and noted that generally businesspeople will look at a set
of cities and not go too far beyond that set.
Councilman Metze noted the discussion of assisting by having all entities in
the area get together and express what will be expected. He indicated that
he would like to see that followed up. Ms. Best responded that it is already
happening in many of the companies and staff is meeting with them are just
testing the waters; so businesses request a meeting and lay the issues on the
table requesting up front discussion about the areas of flexibility. She
stressed the interest in empowering line and front staff to address specific
projects and detailed the proposed process for up -front review. Mr. Metze
noted the problems which occurred between Lake Chevrolet and the Water
District and stressed the importance of working with all of the agencies to
make the process a reality.
Fred Francia, Regional Manager for The Edison Company, indicated that he
was present to show that Edison will be an active participant in this program.
He noted that they are a common stakeholder via their participation in Lake
Elsinore Connections; and stressed their physical investment and
participation. He complimented the community and City staff for their
efforts. Councilman Metze thanked Mr. Francia for his participation in this
effort.
Larry Regis, Chairman of Lake Elsinore Connections, noted their efforts over
the last six or seven months which came about because people wanted to be
part of what is taking place in Lake Elsinore. He indicated that the
Community must next perceive a change, and the Community as a whole
must see that change is taking place. He suggested that the old guard can not
exist, as there must be a cohesive front. He applauded the Council and Staff
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for the types of things taking place between the Chamber of Commerce, Lake
Elsinore Connections, JEEP and the City. He stressed that he is hearing the
name Lake Elsinore, which was once an unknown, as a forerunner for this
pilot program. He encouraged the Council to approve the plan as presented,
noting that there are 80 volunteers ready to do the follow -up on the survey.
ADJOURNMENT
The City Council Study Session was adjourned at 4:30 p.m.
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The Regular City Council Meeting was called to order by Mayor Pape at 7:09 p.m.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Councilwoman Brinley.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: ALONGI, BRINLEY,
KELLEY, METZE, PAPE
ABSENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: NONE
Also present were: City Manager Watenpaugh, City Attorney Leibold,
Community Development Director Brady, Community Services Director
Sapp, Administrative Services Director Boone, Assistant to the City Manager
Best, Finance Manager Magee, City Engineer O'Donnell, Police Chief Walsh,
and Deputy City Clerk Bryning.
PRESENTATIONS
a. Proclamation - Joe Crognale. (F:120.1)
Mayor Pape read and presented a proclamation to Joe Crognale for his
service to the City and dedication to the community and wished him luck in
his future retirement. Mr. Crognale thanked Council and staff for the
recognition.
PUBLIC COMMENTS - AGENDIZED ITEM
Requests were received to address the following items and deferred to those
discussions:
Item Nos. 32 & Closed Session item c.
CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS
The following item was pulled from the Consent Calendar for further discussion
and consideration:
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Item No. 7
MOVED BY BRINLEY, SECONDED BY KELLEY AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO APPROVE THE BALANCE OF THE CONSENT
CALENDAR AS PRESENTED.
1. The following Minutes were approved:
a. Regular City Council Meeting - February 24, 1998. (F:44.4)
The following Minutes were received and ordered filed:
b. Planning Commission Meeting - March 4, 1998. (F:60.3)
C. Design Review Committee Meeting - March 4, 1998. (F:60.4)
2. Ratified Warrant List for March 13, 1998. (F:12.3)
3. Rejected and referred the Claim of Michael K. Bibbins - CL # 98 -9, to the
Claims Administrator for handling. (F:52.2)
4. Approved the proclamation for National Records and Information
Management Week, and directed staff to transmit to requestor. (F:122.1)
5. Approved the program revisions for the Korn Memorial Scholarship
Program and authorized staff to proceed. (F:56.2)
6. Adopted Resolution No. 98 -5 setting the speed limits on Flint Street,
Lincoln Street, Minthorn Street and Strickland Avenue. (F:152.1)
RESOLUTION NO. 98-5
A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF LAKE
ELSINORE DESIGNATING THE PRIMA FACIE SPEED LIMIT
FOR CERTAIN STREETS.
8. Approved setting a public hearing date of April 14, 1998 for Commercial
Project 9 -3 and Zone Change 98 -2 - Kentucky Fried Chicken/Taco Bell.
(F:58.2)(X:172.2)
BUSINESS ITEMS
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Report on New Library. (17:98.1)
City Manager Watenpaugh noted that the County is moving forward and
Mr. Stahovich of Supervisor Buster's Office would be giving an update and
status of the project at the next meeting.
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32. Economic Development Strategy. (F:70.1)
City Manager Watenpaugh stated that the Council has had several Study
Sessions on Economic Strategy, noting that there have been several minor
changes on the program; and asked Assistant to the City Manager Best to
address the changes. He further noted that the City has a program for the
first time and urged Council to support and adopt this program to be placed
in the General Plan to facilitate a strategic plan for future economic
development.
Assistant to the City Manager Best explained that words have been added
into the document to allow monitoring of the project to insure that details do
not fall through the cracks. She noted that specific language has been added
regarding retail clustering and explained the City's position with regard to
that action. She noted that the City does encourage this type of economic
development.
Mayor Pape recognized Mr. Thomas who requested to address this issue.
Tom Thomas, President of the Lake Elsinore Valley Chamber of
Commerce, spoke in favor of this action and stated that this provides a great
opportunity for local businesses to work with the City, and the advantage of
having outside consultants look at the program. He encouraged Council to
approve the program for the benefit of the whole City.
Councilwoman Brinley asked if the Regional Economic Strategy was
included. City Manager Watenpaugh stated that it was. Councilwoman
Brinley commented that she does support this program and stated that it
insures that our local businesses will thrive; however the point of her
question was to include the Region which will affect the economic
development of the area. She stated that she supports this project one
hundred percent.
Mayor Pape noted that the Council has had a Study Session on this project
and the City has received a lot of positive press on the issue and he felt that
this helps to achieve the projects goal as well.
Mayor Pro Tem Kelley commented that what has been evident during the
two City Council Study Sessions is that this project generated excitement
n and optimism with local businesses. She noted that everyone is excited
about the "gardening" effect which will help our local businesses meet their
needs and ultimately attract more businesses, especially in the higher wage
category. She stated that this is of the utmost importance to the City of
Lake Elsinore. She noted that the policy before Council contains elements
that encourage partnerships; make the job of Council easier; encourage
increased communication; and support of existing and new businesses.
Mayor Pro Tem Kelley stated that she felt that this policy has it all and
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applauded the hard work of the Economic Development Committee and the
Chamber of Commerce. She further stated that she was delighted to support
this project and encouraged the other Councilmembers to embrace and
promote this renewed enthusiasm.
Councilman Metze concurred with Councilwoman Brinley and Mayor Pro
Tern Kelley. He stated that it is important for the community to know that
this is a joint effort with the City of Canyon Lake and both Chambers of
Commerce. He noted that both entities will be striving toward the same
things, but not duplicating. He explained that the effort will be made to pull
together and he fully supports this effort.
MOVED BY BRINLEY, SECONDED BY KELLEY AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO APPROVE THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT
STRATEGY AND DIRECTED STAFF TO IMPLEMENT THE PROCESS.
ITEMS PULLED FROM THE CONSENT CALENDAR
7. Computer Equipment and Software Replacement and Upgrade Request.
(F:65.1)
City Manager Watenpaugh stated that the computer system and equipment
in City Hall is outdated and IBM will no longer service it. He asked that
Finance Manager Magee give an overview of the status of the computer
equipment and her proposal.
Finance Manager Magee noted that in 1991, the City purchased it's first
in -house computer system and explained that the normal life of a computer
system is 3 to 5 years. She further explained that the computer system and
software needs to be upgraded due to changes in the industry. City
Manager Watenpaugh questioned the function of the current AS /400.
Finance Manager Magee stated that the AS /400 runs Finance, Business
License, Payroll, Cash Receipts, Code Enforcement, Land Management,
Building Permits and Planning and Zoning software applications. She
noted that the system is so old that IBM will no longer support it and if it
goes down the City would have real difficulty restoring the data, if at all.
Finance Manager Magee explained that to purchase new software from IBM
will cost approximately $15,000; and after consulting several technical
people it was concluded that to put that amount of money into our current
system is not wise. She noted that the best way to proceed is to purchase a
new AS /400, which will come with a new operating system and would cost
approximately $30,000 and include training, hardware and software. She
further noted that the vendor is willing to provide the equipment at their
cost to assist the City. City Manager Watenpaugh noted the two different
proposals. Finance Manager Magee explained that most of the personal
computers are outdated and at least 5 years old. She noted that a chip can
be purchased to increase the speed of the computers, however considering
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the age of the equipment she felt that it would do nothing to extend the total
life of the computer itself.
Mayor Pape commented on the difference in cost between proposal one and
two and noted that there is only about a $15,000 difference between the two
proposals. He qlarified the one proposal is designed to place a Band -Aid on
the system, and the other proposal is for all new equipment. Finance
Manager Magee concurred. Mayor Pape noted that for a little extra the City
could have equipment that will last another 4 to 6 years. He noted that
although staff could "make -do" with the lesser equipment, he suggested that
Council consider Proposal No. 1, since he felt that it was a much wiser use
of dollars, and amortized over the life of the equipment will be less
expensive and more efficient. He further suggested that instead of pulling
the money from the Reserves the City should wait three months and have
the equipment delivered to City Hall on July 1 st, to allow this item to be in
next year's Fiscal Budget.
Councilwoman Brinley clarified that the City would be saving
approximately $12,000 a year, since if the City keeps the old system it
would require approximately that amount of money for maintenance and
replacement. Finance Manager Magee stated that the recommendation for a
set -aside for $12,000 a year was to replace and up -grade equipment on a
yearly basis. She noted that in the past the City purchased all of the
equipment and then did not do much to change it or do preventative
maintenance, therefore the $12,000 a year allotment is to replace and up-
grade equipment irrespective of which proposal Council chooses. She
stressed the necessity of this action and whether we up -grade existing
equipment or purchase new this will still be a necessary step to allocate
funds in the budget each year. Councilwoman Brinley requested
clarification of the use for the money. Finance Manager Magee stated that
it would buy equipment and maintenance; and will include copiers, printers,
etc.
Mayor Pro Tem Kelley stated that she knows how important the computer
equipment is and staying up with new technology; however at this time she
could not in good faith and conscience approve spending money from
reserves when it was not done for the Parks or the Fire Station. She noted
that she has a difficult time considering this action. She suggested that this
item be held until the next budget period and at that time she would gladly
entertain placing it in the budget.
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Councilman Metze stated that he concurred with Mayor Pape regarding
Proposal No. 1, and asked if the City can wait until July 1st. Finance
Manager Magee stated that it has waited for several months while staff was
putting these proposals together and things might hold together until July 1,
however she is not guaranteeing anything. She suggested the sooner the
better since the City's business functions depend on the AS /400.
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Councilwoman Brinley stated that at this time she supports Proposal No. 1,
however she would like to see this placed in the Fiscal Budget 98/99.
Councilman Alongi commented that it always comes down to money and
stated that he does not see the difference in doing it now or next Budget
Year.
He explained that the money in the budget from Fiscal Year 97/98 is going
to roll over into Fiscal Year 98/99 and the money will have to come out of
the Reserves, no matter when the computers are purchased. He stated that
he does not know anyithing about computers, however if staff is telling us
that we need computers to conduct business in the City and if it goes down
we have a problem, then we are not responding to the need if we do not
purchase these items. He noted that the money is going to come from the
Reserves anyway, therefore if it's necessary and staff needs the computers,
lets get it done before the City has a problem.
Mayor Pape noted that it was mentioned that we could move forward and
allow staff to enter into a contract and have the equipment delivered on July
1 st, as opposed to ordering on July 1 st, and waiting for delivery. He
suggested this as a possibility if Council wishes to speed thing up.
Councilman Alongi agreed. Councilwoman Brinley clarified.
MOVED BY BRINLEY, SECONDED BY METZE AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO APPROVE PROPOSAL NUMBER ONE AT AN
ESTIMATED COST OF $98,706 WITH THE PROGRAM TO BE
ORDERED NOW AND IMPLEMENTED JULY 1; AND APPROVED THE
$12,000 PER BUDGET YEAR FOR EQUIPMENT UPGRADE AND
REPLACEMENT.
THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING WAS RECESSED AT 7:34 P.M.
THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING RECONVENED AT 7:38 P.M.
PUBLIC COMMENTS - NON AGENDIZED ITEMS
Tom Thomas, President of the Lake Elsinore Valley Chamber of Commerce, gave
an update on the Street Fair and announced that the next one will be held on
Sunday, April 5, 1998, opening at 8:00 a.m. He stated that at the last event there
were approximately 2,500 people, the vendors were pleased and the businesses
downtown did well. He noted that there are 70 vendors signed up for the April
5th, Fair.
Chris Hyland 15191 Wavecrest Drive, noted the item on Close Session, item c.,
Title: Special Projects Director, which caused her concern and asked if this met
the criteria of a Closed Session. She stated that she is against using her tax dollar
for this position. She further noted that Ron Molendyk is currently serving in this
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position and in the last couple of month the City has paid him $22,000. She stated
that the former Mayor Gary Washburn, who was the leading proponent of the
Diamond Stadium Deal, works as a consultant for TMC and other projects in the
City and that was the corporation that built the Diamond. She quoted an article
from the newspaper regarding the building and financing of the Stadium. She
further stated that she hopes that every person who lives in the City and is a tax
payer will call City Hall and voice their opinion in regard to this position. Ms.
Hyland stated that the money for this position could have been used to purchase
computers and that is something that should not wait.
John Seepe, 15631 Half Moon Drive, asked if Government is too intrusive and
whether the people pay too many taxes. He expressed concern that the
government does not perform it's basic responsibilities effectively; and questioned
if Social Security will be around; if Medicare \Medicaid and Welfare are working
well. He reminded the Council that the voters in the State of California voted for a
term limit and it was up -held and the only thing that was overturned was the
Federal limits and that was a three term limit on Congress. He noted that our
current Congressman has served three terms and is running for a fourth. He spoke
in support of Joe Khoury who is running against Mr. Calvert and gave Mr.
Khoury's qualifications for the job. He stated that he hopes that people vote on
the qualifications of the individual and their education. Mr. Seepe stated in his
opinion the reason why this position has been so quiet is because we've been
sending a person who is not qualified. He stressed that people should vote for the
person best qualified for the job.
Dick Knapp, 17621 Bromley, City Treasurer, questioned the Closed Session item
regarding the Special Projects Director who is Ron Molendyk and stated that he
hoped that Council was not seriously considering extending his contract. He
noted that in review of the Warrant List for this week he saw $1,200 going to Mr.
Molendyk for Health and Wellness and just two weeks ago there was a payment of
$1,100. He further stated that he thought he was on a no -pay consultant type
basis. He asked for explanation of the $50,000 given to Rod Gunn for a
presentation, when he already gets l% of the $28 million bond that was just issued
a few months ago as well as I% of the $23 million that went a while ago. He
asked if the City has a contract with Rod Gunn. He stated that the people should
know that Ron Molendyk is looking for another contract; and that Rod Gunn is
being paid over and above the loan packages they put together.
John Hunneman, representing the Californian Newspaper, stated that the
Californian would like to go on record that they believe item c., on Closed
Sessions is an item that should be discussed in Open Session and not in Closed
Session. He stated that they feel that discussing the creation of this particular.
position in Closed Session would be a violation of the Brown Act.
Costa Mestos, President of the Lake Elsinore Teenage Republicans Club,
informed the audience that they are active in the community. He noted that they
will be increasing their attendance to the City Council Meetings and invited any
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Member of City Council to come to their club and speak. He further noted that
they have had several important speakers at their Club Meetings and announced
that the Teenage Republican Club will be working for Joe Khoury this weekend.
He noted that Mr. Khoury addressed the Teenage Republicans Club and he was
very impressed with this candidate. He stated that there will be a large group of
people meeting at Elsinore High School, Saturday, 9:00 a.m. to walk precincts for
Mr. Khoury. He invited anyone interested to join them. Mr. Mestos announced
that the Lake Elsinore Teenage Republicans are planning a State Convention here
in Lake Elsinore this year, however it is still in the planning stages.
CITY MANAGER COMMENTS
City Manager Watenpaugh commented on the following:
1. Addressed the commingling of Ron Molendyk with the position of Special
Projects Director. He stated that Ron Molendyk is officially leaving public
employment May 1, 1998, and the intent was to try and stipulate whether
there was a need for such services; since there is no longer an Assistant City
Manager to deal with,projects. He stated that if Council would so desire to
withdraw this item from the Agenda, staff has no objections. He stressed
that this is not a creation of a position, the action was to discuss whether or
not there was a need for such a position. He explained that Mr. Molendyk
has been with the City for 13 years and has been very helpful with the
transition and stressed that he will be leaving public employment on May 1.
He stated that he hoped people would look at the things that Mr. Molendyk
has done, opposed to looking to try and find problems. He stressed that the
City has enough problems and Mr. Molendyk has done a lot of good things.
He further stressed that if Council wishes to pull Closed Session item c.,
from the Agenda, staff has no problem with that action.
2. He explained that Mr. Gunn has been with the City for the last two years
helping with the City's Financial Strategy; there has been two bond
refundings and the money that was forwarded to Mr. Gunn was contracted
for; and the $50,000 that the City fronted will come back to the City either
through Series D Bonds or through the next refunding. He noted that this is
a cash flow situation. He stressed that Mr. Gunn has put in many hours
amounting to almost full time for the City.
MOVED BY ALONGI, SECONDED BY METZE AND CARRIED BY A
VOTE OF 3 -2 WITH BRINLEY AND PAPE CASTING THE DISSENTING
VOTES TO REMOVE ITEM "C" FROM THE CLOSED SESSION
SECTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL AGENDA.
CITY COUNCIL COMMENTS
Councilman Alongi commented on the following:
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1. Stated that he was not going to address the bonds and noted that there is
always a cost for doing business.
2. Noted that he was surprised to read in the newspaper about the gardening
program in support of small businesses. He stated that for five and one -half
years he has been saying that Council should take care of local business
before taking care of big business in our community. He stated that at that
time he suggested low interest loans to assist in keeping them in businesses,
however the Council has to have a man with a Doctor's Degree to convince
them that we need to look at small businesses. He further noted an article in
the newspaper regarding a Low Income Housing and now all of a sudden
Council approves this gardening program that is presented. He noted that
this Council and the previous Council have neglected to do any of the items
found under the RDA section of the program and read some of the items
found in that section. He noted that the City of Lake Elsinore RDA not only
has a $900,000 deficit, but the RDA cannot pay the City of Lake Elsinore
for it's staff time which is an additional $200,000, therefore the RDA is in
worse trouble than anyone is saying.
3. Noted an article in the newspaper which headlines "Elsinore Investors O.K.
City's Promises ". He addressed the statement that there was no cost to the
City in the article, and later on in the article stated that the City is going to
give the developer tax incentives. He noted that this will be done either
through a bond or discount on fees, however this will cost something.
4. Noted the article in the paper that commended Councilman Metze for his
recognition of the need for more aggressive Watershed Management and his
call for a Study Session. Councilman Alongi stated that he conducted a
special test which went from the Lake in Lake Elsinore to the EVMWD
Sewer Plant which is next to the San Jacinto River. He noted that they
measured the water that is being discharge from the Canyon Lake Golf
Course and the reclaimed water that went down the San Jacinto River to the
Lake. He suggested that a program should be designed that can be taken to
the Federal Government to assist the people who are dumping into our Lake
and there was not a line of that in the paper, however Councilman Metze
mentions the subject one time and gets a whole column.
5. Noted the article in the Sun Tribune regarding the use of economic
gardening approach to encourage the growth of small businesses. He stated
that he has been telling the City this for years and it has not been supported,
however now we have someone with a Doctorate presenting this and
everyone is jumping on the bandwagon. He stated "what a joke ". He
further stated that we had the people right here to provide the taxes and they
did not have to be given to Wal -Mart or anybody, since they were already
here.
6. Commented on the article in the paper with the statement by Gary
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Washburn that if he had to do it again, he would do it all over again; that to
put this community in the position that it is in and to put this Council in the
position that it is in, and he would do it all over again. Councilman Alongi
stated that was pretty stupid as far as he was concerned, not to mention
irresponsible. He noted that is why this City is so "up in arms" about what
is happening to our tax dollars, due to actions like this.
7. Commented that the Council has talked about the `City can't afford this and
that'. He noted that when Council says those things, as a Council, we
should be watching every dime and nickel and dollar that the City has. He
stated that he does not see any reason why the Redevelopment Chairperson
had to go to Sacramento about a Lake problem. He further noted that it is
not a Redevelopment Agency problem and the money that is against the
Lake comes from City Bonds and no money was taken from the RDA to put
in the Lake. He further noted that the Lake has nothing to do with removing
blight; RDA funds cannot be used to maintain the Lake; RDA funds cannot
be used for police patrol, therefore why was it necessary for her to go.
Councilman Alongi stated that Senator Haynes requested the Mayor, RDA
Chair, City Manager and the Lake Supervisor attend, however he is not
paying the bill, the taxpayer is. He stressed that it was not necessary for all
four people to go to Sacramento to get the money back for the Lake and
stated that the Mayor and City Manager are qualified enough to handle this
issue and it does not require all four people. He noted that if the City had
the money and all the services in place, he would not complain, however we
do not and if there is no money to provide fire services or as other vital
services, then we do not have the money for excess travel. He stressed that
Council needs to tighten up their belts as well.
8. Commented that the City will be audited on the Bonds, and stated that he
hopes that they do a thorough job.
9. Stated that every person on Council, whether he agrees with them or not,
worked hard and spent money as well as friends money to be elected
because every Councilmember felt they had something to give to the
community. He stressed that when they vote it is for what is good for the
community and not what is good for themselves or someone else. He
stressed that he does not like entities such as the Out Let Center, Mr. Chen,
or members of the Chamber of Commerce pressuring people on Council to
vote for what the hell they want them to vote. He stated that Council is not
up here to vote the way they want them to vote, the Council is there to vote
for the community. The City Manager is hired by Council and does not
need to be pushed by outside interests.
10. Stated that he felt that the Police Department had more important things to
do than to drive behind a street sweeper. He noted that it is necessary to cite
people who violate the Ordinance, however he does not feel that it is
necessary to take a CSO Officer or a sworn Officer and specifically put
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them behind a sweeper. He stated that to him that is a waste of tax dollars.
He further noted that there are plenty of things going on in the City that can
be taken care of and periodically a unit can do a sweep and cite the persons
that do not move their cars.
11. Commented on two letters that were sent to Assemblyman Tom Torlakson
from Mayor Pape and RDA Chairwoman Brinley and read their letters of
opposition. He noted that two years ago he opposed allowing a vote of 50%
+ 1 for the vote on assessments and received a lot of criticism for his stand.
He asked why we are against people voting to tax themselves; why are we
against people having the right to vote if they want their properties
mortgaged. He stated that if the City wanted to set up a Redevelopment
Area then the people should have the right to vote on it. He stressed that the
City has not spent one dime of the $70 or $80 million invested in RDA on
Low Income Housing; not one dime for small businesses, except the small
loans on Main Street; or any infrastructure in those areas that the RDA
money was taken from. He noted that the money was pulled from those
areas for the ball field and yet those people have nothing. Councilman
Alongi stated that the City has done nothing but break the RDA and drain
the General Fund. He stated that he wrote his own letter and told him
exactly what was going on in the City of Lake Elsinore and emphasized that
we should be voting on the RDA. He stated that if these people cannot be
trusted with such a beautiful tool to work with, then it should betaken
away.
12. Noted a letter that he received and stated that if the City is going to enforce
Ordinances and Conditions of Approval, then we need to do it for everyone
and not because we like the business or not like the business. He noted that
the letter was regarding a particular business in town that was trying to do
some entertainment and the condition to the business at the time of approval
stated that there shall be no live entertainment etc., yet the City has a
business on Main Street that every weekend has live music, Karaoke and
live entertainment. He noted that he does not have a license for that, yet the
City allows this, however when another business person wants to do the
same thing, then the City opposes this. He stated that we do not enforce the
Ordinances equally among all people in the community.
13. Noted a letter from the City Manager to Council regarding a complaint. He
suggested that the person has not been in this City long enough to complain
and when she knows the problems of the community, then she can send her
complaint in.
He noted that he has been asked why he spends thousands of dollars protecting a
$300 a month j ob. He stated that it is because of the letters he receives in
thanks for his service and support of the people; therefore he will spend his
thousands defending his position because as long as people appreciate what
he is doing, he will keep doing it, no matter what the
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14. District Attorney has to say in the newspaper. He stated that he will have to
win his case in court and not in the newspapers.
15. Noted that he brought a tax bill that addressed the Fire Station that he spoke
of at the last meeting and stated that the taxes are $3,266 on a $140,000
house. He further noted the total assessments on the property are $1,702.62
and of that $1,615.04 are direct assessments going to CFD 88 -3. He
stressed that those people are paying for that Fire Station and they are still
paying for it through those assessments.
16. He stated that he has never despised anyone in his life, however there is one
gentleman on the dias that he does, the others he puts up with. He stated
that he has been sitting on the dias for six and one -half years and it is not a
coincidence that he has never been called to lead in the salute of the
American Flag and asked if they wondered why he gets ticked off. He
stated that he served his time in the Marines and the Vietnam War and put
14 months in a 4 x 4 x 6 box. He stated that they couldn't break him then
and this Council, the District Attorney and the County of Riverside won't
break him either. He stressed that he just wanted to bring it to his attention.
He stated that he calls on everybody and his brother, but not him.
17. He stated that those are the facts and the others will try and tell you
something else, however he suggested that the residents get off their Sicilian
asses and go to City Hall and look up the facts for themselves.
Councilman Metze commented on the following:
1. Announced that on Saturday, March 28, 1998, the Chamber of Commerce is
having a Monte Carlo Night and encouraged everyone to attend.
2. Announced that tomorrow night; March 25, 1998, there will be a ball game
with The Storm vs The Angels, bar rain.
3. Addressed Mr. Seepe's comments and stated that through all of history
there has always been term limits and that is called an election.
4. Commented that in his opinion there is no comparison between a sleazy bar
versus Chuckles Java Junction.
Councilwoman Brinley commented on the following:
1. Asked City Manager Watenpaugh to address the audit of the Bonds. City
Manager Watenpaugh stated that the City received a letter from the State
Auditor Controller requesting copies of some specific audit documents
relating to the City's audits for our Bond Measures and our Bond issues. He
noted that those documents have been forwarded back to them and we have
heard nothing back from them at this time. Administrative Services
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Director Boone stated that the documents requested were the financial
statements of the Bond issues. Councilwoman Brinley clarified that the
City of Lake Elsinore is not the only city going through this. City Manager
Watenpaugh concurred, and stated that the City of Lake Elsinore has
responded to all questions from the State Auditor Controllers Office and
will continue to do so. He noted that he will be reporting back to Council
with any updates.
2. Asked the City Attorney to address the question of violations of the Brown
Act in regard to Close Session c. City Attorney Leibold stated that the item
has been pulled and will not be discussed tonight in Closed Session and
clarified that it was not an issue with respect to an individual employee; was
not proposed to be a discussion to create a position; but rather an analysis of
whether or not the existing position is one that should be maintained,
continued, or filled in any capacity. She noted that the Brown Act does
permit the City Council to meet in Closed Session to discuss employment
issues. She further noted that she has citations if they are needed.
Councilwoman Brinley stated that she felt that City Attorney Leibold would
not allow Council to meet on anything that was in violation of the Brown
Act.
3. Addressed the issue regarding the Redevelopment Agency Housing
Element. She stated that in December this issue was addressed. She
explained that the City is in the process of review of the Housing Element
and Contracts entered into by the RDA. She noted that these issues take a
considerable amount of time for review and due to the process required for
the TMC Contract, the review of the Housing Element and RDA Contracts
is taking that much longer, however it is in process and is being addressed.
Councilwoman Brinley stated that as RDA Chairwoman she has requested
that in April, on a Saturday at approximately 10:00 a.m., that a presentation
be made by, Mr. Gunn regarding the Bonds to give the public the
opportunity to gain information and participate in the workshop. She noted
that City Attorney Leibold's background is Redevelopment Law and she
was a featured speaker at the CRA Seminar in Long Beach. Councilwoman
Brinley stated that there will be a public notice in the press as well as an
announcement on Channel 3 regarding this meeting.
4. Stated that as Chairwoman of the RDA, she was invited by Senator Haynes
to Sacramento. She noted that the reason she felt it was important to attend
was due to fact that the Redevelopment Agency has projects located near or
on the Lake and the situation regarding the Lake has a direct impact on the
Redevelopment Agency. She stressed that the Lake is the one of the major
Economic Engines of this community and she felt it was important for her
to be involved to encourage the development of tourism. She announced
that today the Bill was presented to the Committee, where it died. She
further stressed that Senator Haynes Office, Mayor Pape and herself will
continue to keep working towards getting money for the Lake and to work
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toward up- stream mitigation and everyone on Council has talked about up-
stream mitigation. She stated that one of the possible solutions is to form a
task force to involve our Sister Cities upstream, the County Supervisors, the
Assemblymen and Congressman. She stressed that it is important to keep
our environmental assets safe. She thanked Councilman Metze for bringing
the issue forward.
5. Commented that last Wednesday she participated in a program, "Principal
for a Day" at David Brown Middle School. She stated that it was a
wonderful experience and commended Principal Vicki Webber for all of her
hard work to make David Brown Middle School such a successful learning
institution. She noted that the students do watch City Council Meetings and
the students have strong opinions. She further noted that her son is a
teacher at David Brown and for one day she was his boss and stressed what
a nice experience it was.
6. Encouraged everyone in the community to attend Casino Night, March
28th, at 7:00 p.m. and reiterated that it is sponsored by the Chamber of
Commerce. She stated that it is $15.00 a couple and will be held at the
Diamond Club and should be a lot of fun.
7. Stated that the Circus is coming to town on April 18th, and noted that it is
one day only and encouraged everyone to attend.
8. Noted that the last Open Air Market was a success and encouraged everyone
to attend the next Market and have a good time.
Mayor Pro Tem Kelley commented on the following:
1. Clarified the issue of live entertainment and noted that the City received a
letter from ABC notifying the City that a local business in the four corners
area had requested previous exemptions including, but not limited to live
entertainment, live dancers, topless entertainment and live music being
lifted from their license. She noted that the City was asked to respond to
that request. She stated that her response was to leave the conditions in
place.
2. Announced that there is a Chamber Mixer this Thursday and asked where it
would be. Chamber President Tom Thomas stated that it will be combined
with the Monte Carlo Night.
3. Announced that the Annual Easter Egg Hunt will be held April 4, 1998, at
the Outlet Center from 9:00 a.m. to 2:00 p.m.
Mayor Pape commented on the following:
1. Reviewed all of the previously announced activities, and encouraged
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everyone to enjoy the activities.
2. Commented on the Jet Ski Races sponsored by the Arizona Aqua Club and
announced that they will be back on May 23, 1998.
3. Announced that on June 27th and 28th, the International Wake Board, Knee
Board and Air Chair Competition in the Inlet Channel and encouraged
everyone to put this on their calendar.
4. Commented on the Study Session that is currently being organized which
will include representatives from the entire 820 square mile watershed area
that flows into Lake Elsinore. He noted that this will include the Cities of
Hemet, San Jacinto, Canyon Lake and Moreno Valley, as well as
representatives from the Dairy Industry, and County. He stated that the
topic of the Study Session will be what is happening to the Lake and
stressing the fact that the actions that are occurring miles away do and will
affect the water quality of the Lake. He stressed that this will start the
education process and allow the different community leaders to be informed
and help solve the problem.
5. Wished Happy Birthday to the City of Lake Elsinore. He stated that the
City of Lake Elsinore will be celebrating it's 110th Birthday on April 9th
and noted that we were incorporated in 1888.
CLOSED SESSION
a. Public Employee Performance Evaluation (Government. Code Section
54957) Title: City Manager.
b. Public Employee Performance Evaluation (Government Code Section
54957) Title: City Attorney.
THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING WAS ADJOURNED TO CLOSED
SESSION AT 8:24 P.M.
THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING RECONVENED AT 9:26 P.M. WITH NO
ACTION TAKEN.
ADJOURNMENT
MOVED BY KELLEY, SECONDED BY METZE AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO ADJOURN THE REGULAR CITY COUNCIL
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MEETING AT 9:26 P.M.
S; W. PAPFWMAYOR
OF LAKE ELSINORE
Respectfully submitted,
Adria L. Bryn' g, Depu City CI k
ATTEST:
VBC.KI KASAD, CITY CLERK
MINUTES
SPECIAL CITY COUNCIL MEETING
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
130 SOUTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA
THURSDAY, APRIL 2, 1998
CALL TO ORDER
The Special City Council Meeting was called to order by Mayor Pape at 1:4:55 a.m.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT:
ABSENT:
COUNCILMEMBERS:
COUNCILMEMBERS:
ALONGI9 BRINLEY;
KELLEY, METZE, TAPE
NONE
Also present were: City Manager Watenpaugh, Assistant City Attorney Van
Blarcom, Community Development Director Brady and City Clerk Kasad.
CLOSED SESSION
CONFERENCE WITH LEGAL COUNSEL - ANTICIPATED LITIGATION
- Initiation of Litigation pursuant to subdivision ( c ) of Government Code
Section 54956.9: 2 potential cases.
Assistant City Attorney Van Blarcom announced the above listed items for
discussion.
THE SPECIAL CITY COUNCIL MEETING WAS ADJOURNED TO
CLOSED SESSION AT 11:56 A.M.
THE SPECIAL CITY COUNCIL MEETING RECONVENED AT 12:40
P.M. WITH THE FOLLOWING ANNOUNCEMENT:
UPON A VOTE OF 3 TO 2, THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVED
INITIATION OF LITIGATION AGAINST THE RIVERSIDE
COUNTY LOCAL AGENCY FORMATION COMMISSION TO
CHALLENGE CEQA COMPLIANCE, THE AMENDMENT OF THE
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE SPHERE OF INFLUENCE AND THE
DESIGNATION OF THE CLEVELAND RIDGE AREA AS AN
UNINCORPORATED COMMUNITY.
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ADJOURNMENT
THE SPECIAL CITY COUNCIL MEETING WAS ADJOURNED AT 12:42
P.M.
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C . PAPE, MAYOR
ITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
183 NORTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA
TUESDAY, APRIL 14, 1998
CALL TO ORDER
The Regular City Council Meeting was called to order by Student Kendall Kelley at
7:05 p.m.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Student Lindsey James.
INVOCATION
The Invocation was provided by Pastor Warford.
PRESENTATIONS
a. Presentation - Student Government Day. (F:142.2)
Hillary Hodges, Sophomore at Temescal Canyon High School and Associated
Student Body Treasurer, indicated that she shadowed Mayor Pape for the
day. She further indicated that she learned a lot today and running a city is
not as easy as she thought. She noted that they had a boat ride and tour of
City Hall.
Renee Tersini, Sophomore at Temescal Canyon High School, indicated that
she shadowed Councilman Metze, and they discussed new building in the
City and events in the Community. She noted her enjoyment of the day and
indicated that she can't wait until next year for a similar opportunity.
Lindsey James, Sophomore at Temescal Canyon High School advised that
she shadowed Councilwoman Brinley and they discussed future plans for
Lake Elsinore and new development which is planned.
Daniel Gonzalez, Senior at Temescal Canyon High School advised that he
shadowed Senior Center Coordinator Tate and stressed the importance of the
services provided by the Senior Center in Lake Elsinore.
Kendall Kelley, Freshman at Temescal Canyon High School indicated that
she shadowed City Clerk Kasad and Deputy City Clerk Bryning. She noted
that they discussed the history of the City and learned a lot about the history
of City in documents.
City Manager Watenpaugh explained to the public that once a year the City
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has this event in cooperation with the School District. He advised that the
format was changed this year and more input was received from the students
for next year's event. He thanked that students for their participation.
b. Presentation - Lake Elsinore Animal Friends. (F:18.2)
Bill Starkey, representing LEAF, commented the students for their
participation in the Community. He noted that LEAF will celebrate 10 years
of service to the Community in October of this year. He detailed their
expansion into the cities of Canyon Lake, Murrieta and Temecula. He noted
new programs such as Pets for Seniors. He noted that every Saturday through
the Spring and Summer the adoption center will be open; and every Tuesday
they are open for senior pet adoptions from 9 a.m. to Noon. He advised that
approximately 20% of the animals in the center are pure bred pets. He also
advised that the third Saturday of every month there is a low cost shot clinic
at City Park which is supported by local veterinarians; and the staff at LEAF
can make arrangements for spay and neuter services. He stressed the success
of LEAF in that animals are not being dumped along the roads. He
announced that LEAF is granting amnesty for licensing from April 1 to May
31 st so there will be no penalty for registering animals. He stressed the
benefits of licensing animals, such as being able to find animals which might
be lost. He advised that May 2nd begins `Be Kind to Weak Animals ". He
fiuther advised that they have leased property for a new shelter, with ground
breaking expected next year. He noted that they will be holding a fundraiser
at the Diamond, and detailed other fundraisers which are being planned. He
requested consideration of a new road for Strickland Avenue and stressed that
over 500 people a week visit LEAF. He encouraged anyone who has not
visited the shelter to do so.
Linda Nanetti, noted the pink notice received in the trash bill regarding
licensing of cats, and explained that the problem is that people move away
and leave adult cats behind, and many kittens are born to roam the
neighborhood. She fiuther noted that in the past, she has assisted LEAF by
gathering kittens from the neighborhoods. She stressed that residents who
move and cannot take animals with them need to take their pets to LEAF.
She expressed hopes that LEAF would not charge people to drop animals off
there, as that would discourage people from dropping them off. She stressed
that the animals become a problem for the other residents, but she does not
agree that all should pay for the irresponsibility of others. She indicated that
she knows that LEAF does a good job.
C. Proclamation - Architecture Week. (F:122.1)
Kendall Kelley read and presented the proclamation to Ron Ishii, representing
the Inland California Chapter of the American Institute of Architects. Mr.
Ishii thanked the Council for this recognition and noted that he is a 10 year
resident of the Community. He noted that it is wonderfid to have the students
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participating in the Community. Mr. Ishii indicated that he has had a firm in
the City for nearly 11 years, and is pleased to be here on behalf of his
colleagues.
d. Presentation - City's Birthday P y.(F:45.1)
Assistant to the City Manager Best noted that this evening is a celebration of
the past, present and future of the Community. She also noted that the
original incorporation date was under San Diego County, and addressed the
Historical Society presentation to the students this date. She indicated that at
the time of incorporation there were only about 1,000 people in the
community, and was listed as a "colony ". She advised that the highlights of
the community were a coal mine, hot mineral springs and the Lake; and the
area also had prominent clay mines and clay pits. She noted similarities
between the original community and the community of today. She reiterated
the positive future potential for the Community with the students present
today. She read a Certificate from the League of California Cities
commending the City on its 110th anniversary.
City Manager Watenpaugh again thanked the students and congratulated them
on their participation.
THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING WAS RECESSED AT 7:25 P.M.
THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING RECONVENED AT 7:32 P.M.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT:
ABSENT:
COUNCILMEMBERS:
COUNCILMEMBERS:
ALONGI, BRINLEY,
KELLEY, METZE,
PAPE
NONE
Also present were: City Manager Watenpaugh, City Attorney Leibold,
Administrative Services Director Boone, Community Development Director
Brady, Community Services Director Sapp, Police Chief Walsh, Fire Chief
Seabert and City Clerk Kasad.
PUBLIC COMMENTS - AGENDIZED ITEMS
None Requested.
M@104041N
The following items were pulled from the Consent Calendar for further discussion
and consideration:
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Item Nos. 9 and 10.
MOVED BY BRINLEY, SECONDED BY KELLEY AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO APPROVE THE BALANCE OF THE CONSENT
CALENDAR AS PRESENTED.
1. The following Minutes were approved:
a. Regular City Council Meeting - March 10, 1998. (F:44.4)
b. City Council Study Session - March 17, 1998.
C. Regular City Council Meeting - March 24, 1998.
d. Special City Council Meeting - April 2, 1998.
The following Minutes were received and ordered filed:
e. Planning Commission Meeting - February 4, 1998.
f. Planning Commission Meeting -March 18, 1998. (F:60.3)
g. Design Review Committee Meeting - February 4, 1998.
h. Design Review Committee Meeting - March 18,1998.(F:60.4)
2. Ratified Warrant List for March 31, 1998. (F:12.3)
3 Received and ordered filed the Investment Report for February, 1998.
(F:12.5)
4. Rejected and referred to Claims Administrator for handling the Claims
Against the City submitted by Kurtis B. Cafaro (CL #98 -10); Mrs. Emery
Simon Jr. (CL #98 -11); Beverly Seeley, Trustee of Francis L. Knierim Trust
(CL #98 -12) and Al Valle (CL #98 -13). (F:52.2)
5. Approved the Agreement Extension with the Department of Boating and
Waterways for the Boat Launch Facility and authorized the City Manager to
execute the Agreement.. (F:68. 1)(X:92.5)
6. Adopted Resolution No. 98 -6 regarding Disaster Relief Funds and the
Designation of the City's Authorized Agent for disaster relief funding
applications. (F:74.1)
RESOLUTION NO. 98-6
A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA, DESIGNATING CERTAIN
OFFICIALS AS INDIVIDUALS AUTHORIZED TO EXECUTE
APPLICATIONS AND DOCUMENTS FOR THE PURPOSE OF
OBTAINING FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE UNDER FEDERAL CIVIL
DEFENSE ACT OF 1950 AS AMENDED (PUBLIC LAW 920, 81ST
CONGRESS, 50 USC APP. 2251- 2297).
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7. Accepted Notice of Completion for the Lakeshore Drive Widening: Main
Street to 600' Beyond Entrance to Lakepoint Park, and authorized
recordation. (F:156.2)
8. Accepted Easement and Grant Deeds for Machado Storage, and authorized
recordation. (F:132.1)
PUBLIC HEARING
21. Zone Change No 98 -2, Commercial Project No C 98 -2 and Negative
Declaration No. 98 -3 for Kentucky Fried Chicken at 31257 Riverside Drive
ajmwy.74) - Ordinance No. 1036. (F:172.2)(X:58.2) .
Mayor Pape noted that Councilman Alongi might need to abstain due to
ownership of applicant's building.
COUNCILMAN ALONGI LEFT THE TABLE AT 7:34 P.M.
City Manager Watenpaugh highlighted this request and detailed the
recommendations. He noted that the project is within RDA Project Area #2
and would need concurrent action by the Redevelopment Agency Board.
Mayor Pape opened the public hearing at 7:35 p.m., asking those persons
interested in this item to speak. The following person spoke:
Kim Quon, 701 W. Graham, representing the applicant, offered to answer
questions, concurred with staff recommendations and thanked staff for their
help in this process. He indicated that the project will beautify the area and
draw more business.
Hearing no additional requests to speak, the public hearing was closed at 7:36
p.m.
Mayor Pro Tem Kelley inquired if when the project is completed, the top of
the building would still have red fencing around the air conditioning; or if it
will be removed. Mr. Quon presented a rendering of the improved building
with a new parapet wall around the building. He stressed enhancements to
be made to the building.
Mayor Pape concurred that the enhancement be a nice finish for the project.
Councilman Metze questioned the fencing between the Laundromat and
Hunny's. Mr. Quon indicated that they are not proposing a fence to divide the
parking lots, but proposing landscaping along that edge. He noted that the
owner of Hunny's has offered to collaborate on the landscaping. Councilman
Metze concurred with the Planning Commission position on condition nos.
15.b. and 36. He indicated that item 36 is a housekeeping item and 15.b must
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have been an oversight. He indicated that he would normally address the
handicapped parking, but it would not matter if 20 of the spaces were 10 feet
deeper, as a person with wheel chair or van would not be able to use the
spaces.
MOVED BY BRINLEY, SECONDED BY KELLEY TO ADOPT
ORDINANCE NO. 1036 UPON FIRST READING BY TITLE ONLY,
APPROVING ZONE CHANGE NO. 98 -2; ADOPT NEGATIVE
DECLARATION NO. 98 -3 AND APPROVE COMMERCIAL PROJECT
NO. C 98 -2, BASED ON THE RECOMMENDED FINDINGS, EXHIBITS
"A" THROUGH "I", AND SUBJECT TO THE FOLLOWING
CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL:
ORDINANCE NO. 1036
AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA, REZONING .62 (.61 NET) ACRES
LOCATED ON RIVERSIDE DRIVE BETWEEN SAINT CHARLES
PLACE AND WALNUT DRIVE, FROM C -P (COMMERCIAL PARK
DISTRICT) TO C -2 (GENERAL COMMERCIAL) ZONING
DISTRICT (ZONE CHANGE NO. 98-2 KENTUCKY FRIED
CHICKEN).
UPON THE FOLLOWING ROLL CALL VOTE:
AYES: COUNCILMEMBERS:
NOES: COUNCILMEMBERS:
ABSENT: COUNCILMEMBERS:
ABSTAIN: COUNCILMEMBERS:
FINDINGS
BRINLEY, KELLEY,
METZE, PAPE
NONE
ALONGI
1. Subject to the attached Conditions of Approval and the findings of the
Mitigated Negative Declaration No. 98 -3, the proposed project is not
anticipated to result in any significant adverse environmental impacts.
2. The Zone Change is consistent with the anticipated zoning district for this site
within the General Plan Land Use Element. The proposed action is,
therefore, consistent with the Goals, Objectives, and Policies of the General
Plan and the standards established in the Municipal Code.
3.
The project, on its own merit and within the context of its setting and as
proposed and conditions, complies with the Goals, Objectives and Policies of
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the General Plan, and the Zoning District in which it will be located.
4. That the requested use, as proposed will not be detrimental to the general
health, safety, morals, and welfare of the persons residing in the neighboring
area of the City.
5. Conditions and safeguards pursuant to Chapter 17.82.070 of the Zoning
Code, including guarantees and evidence of compliance with conditions, have
been incorporated into the approval of the subject project to ensure
development of the property in accordance with the Objectives of Chapter
17.82.
1. Design Review approval for Commercial Project No. 98 -2 will lapse and be
void unless building permits are issued within one (1) year of City Council
approval. An extension of time, up to one (1) year per extension, may be
granted by the Community Development Director prior to the expiration of
the initial Design Review approval upon application by the developer one (1)
month prior to expiration.
2. These Conditions of Approval shall be reproduced upon Page One of
Building Plans prior to their acceptance by the Division of Building and
Safety.
3. All site improvements shall be constructed as indicated on the approved site
plan and elevations. Revisions to approved site plans or building elevations
shall be subject to the discretion of the Community Development Director.
All plans submitted for Building Division Plan Check shall conform with the
submitted plans or as modified by Conditions of Approval, or the Planning
Commission through subsequent action.
4. Materials and colors depicted on the elevations and Materials Board shall be
used unless modified by these conditions, Community Development Director
or his designee.
5. Applicant shall meet all Conditions of Approval prior to the issuance of a
Certificate of Occupancy and release of utilities.
6. Applicant is to meet all applicable City Codes and Ordinances including State
handicap requirements.
7. Meet all Riverside County Health Department requirements.
8. Meet all Riverside County Fire Department requirements.
9. No outdoor storage shall be allowed.
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10. Trash enclosures shall be constructed per City standards as approved by the
Community Development Director or designee, prior to issuance of
Certificate of Occupancy.
11. All roof ladders and electrical panels shall be located within the interior of the
building or in specially designed areas concealed from public right -of -way
view.
12. Applicant shall use roofing materials with Class "A" fire rating.
13. All roof mounted or ground support air conditioning units or other mechanical
equipment incidental to development shall be architecturally screened so that
they are not visible from neighboring property, public streets including
Riverside Drive and Fraser Drive. A screening plan shall be approved by the
Community Development Director or designee, prior to issuance of building
permit.
14. All exterior down- spouts shall be constructed within the interior of the
building or concealed from public right -of -way view.
15. The final landscaping/irrigation plan is to be reviewed and approved by the
City's Landscape Architect Consultant and the Community Development
Director or Designee, prior to issuance of building permit. A Landscape Plan
Check Fee will be charged prior to final landscape approval based on the
Consultant's fee plus forty percent (40 %).
a) All planting areas shall have permanent and automatic sprinkler system
with 100% plant and grass coverage using a combination of drip and
conventional irrigation methods.
b) All planting areas shall be separated from paved areas with a six inch
(6 ") high and six inch (6 ") wide concrete curb.
c) Planting within fifteen feet (15) of ingress /egress points shall be no
higher than thirty -six inches (36 ").
d) Landscape planters shall be planted with an appropriate parking lot
shade tree to provide for 50% parking lot shading in fifteen (15) years.
e) Any transformers and mechanical or electrical equipment shall be
indicated on landscape plan and screened as part of the landscaping
plan.
1) The landscape plan shall provide for ground cover, shrubs, and trees
and meet all requirements of the City's adopted Landscape Guidelines.
Special attention to the use of Xeriscape or drought resistant plantings
with combination drip irrigation system to be used to prevent excessive
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watering.
g) All landscape improvements shall be bonded 120% Faithful
Performance Bond, and released at completion of installation of
landscape requirements approval/acceptance, and bond 100% for
material and labor for one (1) year.
h) All landscaping and irrigation shall be installed within affected portion
of any phase at the time a Certificate of Occupancy is requested for any
building. All planting areas shall include plantings in the Xeriscape
concept, drought tolerant grasses and plants.
i) Final landscape plan must be consistent with approved site plan.
j) Final landscape plans to include planting and irrigation details.
16. All exposed slopes in excess of three feet (3') in height shall have a
permanent irrigation system and erosion control vegetation installed,
approved by the Planning Division.
17. All exterior on -site lighting shall be shielded and directed on -site so as not to
create glare onto neighboring property and streets or allow illumination above
the horizontal plane of the fixture.
18. All loading zones shall be clearly marked with yellow striping and shall meet
City Standards for loading zones.
19. Trailers utilized during construction shall be approved by the Planning
Division.
20. On -site surface drainage shall not cross sidewalks.
21. A stripping plan shall be required to insure safe circulation. Parking stalls
shall be double - striped with four -inch (4 ") lines two -feet (2) apart.
22. Prior to issuance of any building permit, the applicant shall sign and complete
an "Acknowledgment of Conditions" and shall return the executed original to
the Community Development Department for inclusion in the case records.
23. This project shall be subject to all Mitigation Measures contained in the
Mitigated Negative Declaration No. 98 -3.
24. All vending machines, tables, kid's rides, newspaper racks, telephones and
similar devices, if proposed shall be concealed from view with a structure
consistent with the building design. These shall be approved by the
Community Development Director or designee prior to installation.
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25. The applicant shall submit a graffiti removal program. This program shall
include methods for immediate graffiti removal and shall be subject to the
approval of the Community Development Director or Designee.
26. The proposed southwesterly driveway shall be posted as a right turn only /exit
only driveway. A "Do Not Enter" sigh shall be posted for both north and
southbound traffic on Riverside Drive.
ENGINEERING CONDITIONS
27. All Public Works requirements shall be complied with as a condition of
development as specified in the Lake Elsinore Municipal Code (L.E.M.C.)
prior to building permit.
28. Process and meet all parcel merger requirements prior to issuance to building
permit.
29. The applicant shall obtain any necessary Caltrans permits and meet all
Caltrans requirements.
30. The applicant shall obtain all necessary off -site easements for off -site grading
from the adjacent property owners prior to grading permit issuance.
31. If grading exceeds 50 cubic yards, grading plans shall be prepared by a Civil
- Engineer and approved prior to grading permit issuance. Prior to any
grading, the applicant shall obtain a grading permit and post appropriate
security.
32. On -site drainage shall be conveyed to a public facility or accepted by
adjacent property owners by a letter of drainage acceptance or conveyed to a
drainage easement.
33. Applicant shall submit a traffic control plan showing all traffic control devices
for the site to be approved prior to issuance of building permit. All traffic
control devices shall be installed prior to certificate of occupancy.
34. The turning radii out of the proposed drive -thru to the driveway at Riverside
Drive are not large enough and need to be increased.
35. If demand consistently exceeds the storage capacity of the drive -thru during
peak periods, the fast food restaurant shall provide a roving order person in
the drive -thru lane to enhance order taking.
36. The applicant shall cause to be recorded an irrevocable reciprocal parking
and circulation agreement in favor of the lots adjacent to the Kentucky Fried
Chicken site, subject to the approval of the Community Development
Director.
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City Manager Watenpaugh explained that this is part of the existing weed
abatement program and part of the annual requirements. He noted that to
date over 5,000 vacant property owners have been noticed and this is the time
to receive protests or comments. He further noted that the intent is that the
City does not want to do the abatement and that is the reason for the high
administrative fee.
Mayor Pape opened the public hearing at 7:41 p.m. asking those persons
interested in this item to speak. Hearing no one the public hearing was closed
at 7:41 p.m.
MOVED BY BRINLEY, SECONDED BY ALONGI AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO AUTHORIZE STAFF TO PROCEED WITH THE
PROCESS SINCE NO OBJECTIONS WERE PRESENTED.
BUSINESS ITEMS
31. Comm"r ial RMject No. C 98-1 "Chem-on Products Co=any" at 31640
Mission
City Manager Watenpaugh explained that this is a design review request for
construction of a mini- market and remodel of an existing gasoline service
station in accordance with the requirements of the Lake Elsinore Municipal
Code. He noted that the Planning Commission approved the project at their
meeting of April 1, 1998. He stated staff recommends approval of
Commercial Project No. C 98 -2, based on the recommended Findings and
Conditions of Approval. He further noted that the project site is located
within Redevelopment Area No. 1, therefore it is recommended that the RDA
concur with the City Council action.
Councilwoman Brinley asked if the applicant agrees with the Findings and
Conditions of the project. Community Development Director Brady stated
that the applicant concurs.
Councilman Alongi questioned the drainage and noted that all drainage flows
onto Mission Trail and directly into the San Jacinto River. He asked if there
is going to be some type of recapturing system used so that when the pumps
are washed down it can be recaptured, pumped and carried away.
Jim Forgey of RHL Design, 1201 South Beach Blvd., La Habra, architect for
the applicant, stated that the drainage of the site will not be altered, however
there will be no drainage going across the island where fuel is dispensed. He
noted that the drainage will go around the island and flow to a catch basin
which is already on the site and from there into the street.
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Councilman Alongi stated that he is familiar with the area and noted in the
last storm he visited the site with the Water District and there was run off
coming from the station which contained oil and gas. He further noted that it
drained off of the drive way, down to the gutter and into the San Jacinto
River. He stated his concern that when remodeling is done the water should
be captured rather then sending it down the gutter and into the River. He
explained that the City is trying to address a plan for the Lake and every little
bit of waste contributed is hurting the Lake, whether it is Chevron or one of
the other gas stations because in the long run it all adds up to pollution in the
Lake. He stressed that if they are going to enlarge the facility then there are
going to be more vehicles using it and asked if they are going to develop a
program to address the drainage and send it to the sewer rather than the Lake.
Mr. Forgey stated that the run off will be going to the catch basin and then to
the storm drains and will not go to the street.
Mayor Pro Tem noted the additions to the Conditions of Approval which
address prohibiting the sale of alcoholic beverages with the exception of beer
and wine as well as no advertisement displayed and other conditions which
address the sale of beer and wine.
MOVED BY BRINLEY, SECONDED BY KELLEY AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO APPROVE COMMERCIAL PROJECT NO. C 98-
1 "CHEVRON PRODUCTS COMPANY" AT 31640 MISSION TRAIL
WITH THE FOLLOWING FINDINGS AND CONDITIONS.
I,yli:l�]I�[ely
1. Subject to the attached Conditions of Approval, the proposed project is not
anticipated to result in any significant environmental impacts. - -
2. The project, on its own merit and within the context of its setting and as
proposed and conditioned, complies with the Goals, Objectives and Policies
of the General Plan, and the Zoning District in which it will be located.
3. That the requested use, as proposed will not be detrimental to the general
health, safety, morals, and welfare of the persons residing in the neighboring
area of the City.
4. Conditions and safeguards pursuant to Chapter 17.82.070 of the Zoning
Code, including guarantees and evide�ice of compliance with conditions, have
been incorporated into the approval of the subject project to ensure
development of the property in accordance with the objectives of Chapter
17.82.
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PLANNING DIVISION CONDITIONS
1. Design Review approval for Commercial Project No. 98 -1, and Conditional
Use Permit No. 98 -1 will lapse and be void unless building permits are issued
within one (1) year of City Council approval. An extension of time, up to one
(1) year per extension, may be granted by the Community Development
Director prior to the expiration of the initial approval upon application by the
developer one (1) month prior to expiration.
2. These Conditions of Approval shall be reproduced upon Page One of
Building Plans prior to their acceptance by the Division of Building and
Safety.
3. All site improvements shall be constructed as indicated on the approved site
plan and elevations. Revisions to approved site plans or building elevations
shall be subject to the discretion of the Community Development Director or
designee. All plans submitted for Building Division Plan Check shall
conform with the submitted plans or as modified by Conditions of Approval,
or the Planning Commission through subsequent action.
4. A five (5) foot block wall shall be constructed at the northerly and westerly
boundary line.
5. Materials and colors depicted on the elevations shall be used unless modified
by the Community Development Director or designee.
6. The directional sign located at Casino Drive shall be repaired or replaced to
the satisfaction of the Community Development Director or designee.
7. The handicap space shown on the plot plan shall be moved to the west end of
this parking space area in front of the mini- market or to a location agreeable
to the Community Development Director.
8. Applicant shall meet all Conditions of Approval prior to the issuance of a
Certificate of Occupancy and release of utilities.
9. Applicant is to meet all applicable City Codes and Ordinances including State
handicap requirements.
10. Meet all Riverside County Health Department requirements.
11. Meet all Riverside County Fire Department requirements per memorandum
dated March 3, 1998.
12. No outdoor storage shall be allowed.
13. Trash enclosures shall be constructed as illustrated on the approved site plan
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and per City standards as approved by the Community Development Director
or designee, prior to issuance of Certificate of Occupancy.
14. All roof ladders and electrical panels shall be located within the interior of the
building or in specially designed areas concealed from public right -of -way
view.
15. Applicant shall use roofing materials with Class "A' fire rating.
16. All roof mounted or ground support air conditioning units or other mechanical
equipment incidental to development shall be architecturally screened so that
they are not visible from neighboring property, public streets (Mission Trail
or Casino Drive).
17. All exterior down- spouts shall be constructed within the interior of the
building or concealed from public right -of -way view.
18. The final landscaping/inigation plan is to be reviewed and approved by the
City's Landscape Architect Consultant and the Community Development
Director or designee, prior to issuance of building permit. A Landscape Plan
Check Fee will be charged prior to final landscape approval based on the
Consultant's fee plus forty percent (40 %).
a) All planting areas shall have permanent and automatic sprinkler system
with 100% plant and grass coverage using a combination of drip and
conventional irrigation methods.
b) Applicant shall plant street trees, selected from the City's Street Tree
List, a maximum of thirty feet (30) apart and at least twenty- four -inch
(24 ") box size where appropriate. On areas where screening is
necessary, trees shall be at least thirty six -inch (36 ") box size.
Location and size of trees is subject to the Community Development
Director or designee's approval.
c) All planting areas shall be separated from paved areas with a six inch
(6 ") high and six inch (6 ") wide concrete curb.
d) Planting within fifteen feet (15') of ingress /egress points shall be no
higher than thirty-six inches (36 ").
e) Landscape planters shall be planted with an appropriate parking lot
shade tree to provide for 50% parking lot shading in fifteen (15) years.
f) Any transformers and mechanical or electrical equipment shall be
indicated on landscape plan and screened as part of the landscaping
plan.
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g) The landscape plan shall provide for ground cover, shrubs, and trees
and meet all requirements of the City's adopted Landscape Guidelines.
Special attention to the use of Xeriscape or drought resistant plantings
with combination drip irrigation system to be used to prevent excessive
watering.
h) All landscape improvements shall be bonded 120% Faithful
Performance Bond, and released at completion of installation of
landscape requirements approval/acceptance; 20% may be refunded
after acceptance and 100% will be held for one year for material and
labor.
i) All landscaping and irrigation shall be installed within affected portion
of any phase at the time a Certificate of Occupancy is requested for any
building. All planting areas shall include plantings in the Xeriscape
concept, drought tolerant grasses and plants.
j) Final landscape plan must be consistent with approved site plan.
k) Final landscape plans to include planting and irrigation details.
19. All exterior on -site lighting shall be shielded and directed on -site so as not to
create glare onto neighboring property and streets or allow illumination above
the horizontal plane of the fixture.
20. The project shall connect to sewer and meet all requirements of the Elsinore
Valley Municipal Water District ( EVMWD). Applicant shall submit water
and sewer plans to the EVMWD and shall incorporate all district conditions
and standards.
21. Trailers utilized during construction shall be approved by the Planning
Division.
22. On -site surface drainage shall not cross sidewalks.
23. Parking stalls shall be double - striped with four - inches (4 ") lines two -feet (2)
apart.
24. Painted arrows on the asphalt shall be located at all internal one -way drive
aisles.
25. Decorative pavement shall be provided at the entrance of the two (2)
driveways on Mission Trail Road to the satisfaction of the Community
Development Director or designee.
26. Prior to issuance of building permits, the applicant shall sign and complete an
"Acknowledgment of Conditions" and shall return the executed original to the
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Community Development Division for inclusion in the case records.
ENGINEERING DIVISION
27. All Public Works requirements shall be complied with as a condition of
development as specified in the Lake Elsinore Municipal Code at the time a
building permit is issued.
28. Dedicate underground water rights to the City (Municipal Code, Title 16,
Chapter 16.52.030). The document can be obtained from the Engineering
Division.
29. Pay all Capital Improvement and Plan Check fees (Municipal Code, Title 16,
Chapter 16.34; Resolution 85 -26).
30. On -site drainage shall be conveyed to a public facility or accepted by
adjacent property owners by a letter of drainage acceptance or conveyed to a
drainage easement. On -site drainage shall not be directed to flow across the
fueling island.
31. The applicant shall incur all costs to provide a traffic study prepared by a
traffic engineer furnishing mitigation measures if feasible regarding
channelization and striping for the existing driveways on Mission Trail Road
in the vicinity of Chevron prior to building permit. All costs resulting from
mitigations, including restriping along Mission Trail shall be incurred by the
applicant.
32. The approval for the sale of alcohol shall be limited to the sale of beer and
wine only. No general (distilled) alcoholic beverage sales shall be permitted.
33. No beer or wine shall be displayed within five (S) feet of the cash register or
the front door unless it is a permanent affixed cooler.
34. No advertisement of alcohol beverages shall be displayed at motor fuel
islands.
35. No self illuminated advertising for beer or wine shall be located on buildings
and windows.
36. Employees on duty selling beer and wine shall be at least 21 years of age.
37. Window area can not be obscured with posters and advertising to the point
that police patrols will not be able to see into the food -mart.
38. No onsite consumption of alcohol shall be allowed.
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REEF ,_& - I4 ':
City Manager Watenpaugh noted that Mr. Stahovich of Supervisor Buster's
office was expected to be here, but was not present. He noted an error in the
staff report and indicated that the $220,000 figure should have been
$178,000. He advised that this item was intended to bean update on the
status of the project in the Wells Fargo Building, and in that vein it was
moving forward. He further advised that staff was negotiating to own the
building, but since that time staff is recommending that the County own the
building for the first three years; at which time the City could purchase the
building at the current value, less credits for the library fees expended.
Mayor Pro Tem Kelley noted that staff pushed hard to own the library, and
negotiations have gone very well, with extensive discussion of the advantages
and disadvantages of ownership. She expressed understanding of the County
position and stressed the future ability to purchase the library at the rate the
County paid for it. She noted that staff is still working hard to discuss the
existing facility and the potential for future use by the Sheriffs Department.
She urged Council to allow the City Manager to continue to negotiate a
contract subject to the proposed conditions; as they will accept the liability
and today's price is locked in.
Mayor Pape concurred that this would be a win -win situation. He noted that
the City money comes from the developer fees for the library; and he would
not want to lock in at three years, but would agree it should occur when
adequate funds are collected. Mayor Pro Tem Kelley noted that the
operational costs will be equally divided with the County.
Councilman Alongi questioned the advantages and disadvantages of owning
the building. He indicated that he did not see the advantage of owning the
building, but suggested that potentially the dollars could be used to expand
the facility in the future. Mayor Pro Tem Kelley responded that the major
concern was since LSSI has never operated before, and some cities are
pulling out of the system; should the contract fall apart later, the City should
have the option of owning a City library. She concurred that there is no
advantage to owning it now, but she would want to retain the option should
the arrangement change. Councilman Alongi concurred with the Mayor and
suggested a ten year option rather than a three year option, to see what the
community will do in that time frame. Mayor Pro Tem Kelley indicated that
she would be delighted to pursue this fiuther; but noted that the County
mentioned three years because of the ATM agreement and short term
planning.
Councilman Metze concurred with Mayor Pro Tem Kelley that three years
was a minimum length of time, and not a big deal.
MOVED BY METZE, SECONDED BY KELLEY AND CARRIED BY
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UNANIMOUS VOTE TO REAUTHORIZE THE EXPENDITURE OF THE
CITY'S LIBRARY CAPITAL FUNDS FOR THE JOINT CITY /COUNTY
LIBRARY FACILITY; APPROVE THE COUNTY'S OWNERSHIP OF
THE FACILITY AND DIRECT STAFF TO WORK OUT AN AGREEMENT
FOR THE CITY TO PURCHASE THE FACILITY IN THE FUTURE, IF
DESIRED; AND PROCEED WITH DISCUSSIONS ON THE USE OF THE
OLD LIBRARY FACILITY FOR THE SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT AND
COURT.
ITEMS PULLED FROM CONSENT CALENDAR
9. Cooperation Agreement Concerning Stadium Lease. (F: 134.7)(X: 134.10)
Councilman Alongi indicated that he pulled this item so the public could
know about the arrangement of leasing the stadium to TMC. He further
indicated that he voted for it to see what they could do, but the City is still
obligated and not out of the woods. He noted a clause with regard to
advancement of funds and indicated that the City is still involved with money
going there. He stressed that it is not a win -win situation, but it is a very
complex agreement with them. He indicated that it is a gamble because the
City put the money in, hoped for success; but is still holding part of the
problems.
MOVED BY ALONGI, SECONDED BY KELLEY AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO APPROVE THE COOPERATION AGREEMENT,
AUTHORIZE THE MAYOR AND THE RDA CHAIRWOMAN TO
EXECUTE THE AGREEMENT, AND AUTHORIZE THE CITY
MANAGER/ EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR TO TAKE SUCH OTHER
ACTIONS AS MAY BE REQUIRED TO IMPLEMENT THE PURPOSES
OF THE COOPERATION AGREEMENT.
10. App—mal of Quiklaim Deed in Favor of the RedevelQpment Ag?=L
Pursuant d , u 1
Councilman Alongi indicated that he is opposed to this move and indicated
that it is favoring the RDA as the sole owner; and stressed that the funding for
this facility was by the City. He expressed concern with the material
presented regarding the title policy. He indicated that if something happens
to the RDA, he wants the City to have the option to take it back over; and
expressed concern with signing away rights, noting the closures of other City
facilities. He expressed opposition to any kind of a release from the City's
ownership, as the City has a responsibility to hold on to the facility. He
stressed the need to retain a fighting chance and its interest in the Stadium.
He indicated that he understands the intent, but he does not agree with the
verbiage on the grant deed.
City Attorney Leibold clarified that this is a clerical correction for the title
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policy company, as they require no exceptions on the title report. She
clarified that the existing exception relates to a 1994 lease from the PFA to
the City, and that lease is no longer in effect as it was terminated in
connection with the bonds. She explained that this is an effort to expedite
the process and does not release the City of a public interest in the Stadium.
She also noted that in the event the RDA is terminated, all obligations and
assets of the Agency would be inherited and assumed by the City.
Councilman Alongi reiterated that he deals in a lot of property, is not here to
debate, and will only bring the facts. He stressed that the City is still
responsible for a $1.2 million payment on the ball field next year and has a
vested interest. He indicated that he would not vote to allow this move and
stressed that the Public Finance Authority is the City and all agencies are
intertwined.
MOVED BY BRINLEY, SECONDED BY METZE AND CARRIED BY A
VOTE OF 4 TO 1 WITH ALONGI CASTING THE DISSENTING VOTE TO
APPROVE THE QUITCLAIM DEED IN FAVOR OF THE AGENCY, AND
AUTHORIZED RECORDATION.
THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING WAS RECESSED AT 8:05 P.M.
THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING RECONVENED AT 8:10 P.M.
PUBLIC COMMENTS - NON - AGENDIZED ITEMS
Chris Hyland, 15191 Wavecrest Drive, noted article in the Press Enterprise
regarding "Official's Retirement Raises Questions ". She questioned the funds to be
paid for accrued vacation time and sick leave, and indicated that it does not make
sense. She questioned why the Council would not pay him off and let him go on his
way, and suggested an ulterior motive. She read the City policy with regard to
accrual of benefits and addressed negotiations by Councilmembers Pape and
Brinley, and suggested that the information was presented differently. She further
noted the undated memo and indicated that it was never seen by the rest of the
Council. She suggested the existence of a violation of the Brown Act and noted
that proper agencies would be investigating the situation.
Lorre Brevaleri, indicated that she was present to bring up lawlessness; and noted
that she has done her homework about landlords and tenants. She noted the
lawlessness of judges and courts and stated that she is separating herself from the
laws of the land, or God's law. She indicated that the leadership is ridiculous and
not working.
Kay Dowdy, resident of Lake Elsinore for nine years, indicated that she was very
upset to read that Ron Molendyk received $90,000 in vacation and sick leave pay
and still has $60,000 to go. She further indicated that Mr. Molendyk was the
highest paid City Manager in California, making even more than the Governor. She
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noted that State workers have not received a raise in four years and questioned what
the City Manager's job responsibilities are, explaining that she thought they were
supposed to promote the City and draw business. She predicted future business
closures including the Outlet Center, noted the lack of attendance at the Diamond
and noted the low property values. She commented that Mr. Molendyk is working
20 hours a week for the City of Penis for $80,000 and detailed how "regular"
residents are living, based on her personal circumstances. She further express
concern with Mr. Molendyk's ability to hold a gun permit.
Linda Nanetti, resident of Cimmarron Drive, addressed the Sun Tribune article
about the Council suing LAFCO, and expressed concern that the City would
interfere with the Cleveland Ridge community. She indicated that they do not need
the problems associated with the City of Lake Elsinore. She suggested that the
residents in that area are basically self - sufficient, and have no reason to be taken
over by a city with so many problems of its own. She expressed concern with the
Redevelopment Agency that homes are not being cleaned up and suggested that
there needs to be proof that the program is working the way it was intended. She
suggested that the RDA should get away from the use of City funds and keep the
two agencies separate.
Gary Grant, 27068 Jarvis Street, chief proponent for the Meadowbrook Community
of Interest, addressed the LAFCO lawsuit; and indicated that he has no objection to
the action if the City needs to clear the air and ascertain the rights of the citizens.
He stressed that they are neighbors to the City and will continue to be neighbors of
the City and review the acts of the City Council. He indicated that his concerns
with the City are based on the indebtedness and the level of services; and are
nothing against the City or the members of the Council. He indicated that the North
Peak was a prime example of the City stripping people of their financial benefits of
holding property, noting that deannexation of those properties was requested.
CITY MANAGER COMMENTS
No Comments.
CITY ATTORNEY COMMENTS
No Comments.
CITY COUNCIL COMMENT
Councilman Alongi commented on the following:
1. Thanked former Councilman Bill Starkey for his service to LEAF. He noted
that he has served on LEAF's Executive Board and knows how important it is
to spay and neuter the animals to save lives. He noted how important cat
licensing is. He thanked all the people that work at LEAF.
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2. Stated that people do not need a college degree to have property knowledge.
He noted that his family has been involved in property for approximately 100
years. He noted that the Mayor belittles him because he does not have a
college degree, however it is not necessary to know property and he owns
more property than anyone else on Council.
3. Thanked Mr. Trout for his letter stating his concerns, to the Army Corp of
Engineers regarding the Liberty Project.
4. Stated that Mr. Molendyk was a knowledgeable City Manager and did a good
job for the City, however he was paid to do a good job. He noted that he has
nothing against Mr. Molendyk as far a doing a good job for the City of Lake
Elsinore for 13 years. He commented on an article in the Sun Tribune
regarding the Federal Budget and Mr. Molendyk compared this to the City of
Lake Elsinore stating that he left with a balanced budget. He noted that this
is not accurate since the City now has a large debt with payments we cannot
make. He noted that the debt does not make a balanced budget. He stated
his objection to Mr. Molendyk accruing vacation and other benefits while he
was collecting past accrued vacation. He stated that he feels that Mr.
Molendyk is not entitled to accrual of further sick benefits and vacation time
because he was under the same agreement as the other City employees. He
noted the Rules and Regulations of City Employees regarding vacation and
sick leave which Mr. Molendyk's contract calls out. He stated that it is not
the Mayor or City Attorney's job to be sure that everyone is taking their
vacation and it is the City Manager's job to take his vacation. He stated that
he felt it was a breach of contract. He noted that the Mayor and
Councilwoman Brinley entered into an agreement with Mr. Molendyk on a
Memo and not a contract. He further stated that if they wanted the Memo to
be part of the contract then it should have been brought back to Council for
consideration. Councilman Alongi stated that he had no knowledge of the
Memo and neither did Mayor Pro Tern Kelley. He stated that Mr. Molendyk
assured him that this would allow him to contribute his time to the City to
allow the City to pay off what is owed and would cost the City nothing. He
stressed that nothing was said about additional money to be paid to Mr.
Molendyk and he would not have voted for this action. He noted that there
are facilities in the City that are still closed and he could not feel justified in
paying more money while we cannot operate City facilities. He noted that the
extra cost is approximately $30,000. He stated his objection to Mr.
Molendyk working for the City of Perris since he feels that he will be taking
all of the good from Lake Elsinore and giving it to that City.
5. Noted that this Council will not go to the reserves for the Fire Station or
Community Center however they have gone to the reserves for payment of
Bonds from CFD's and related costs. He noted the total cost is over $1
million for CFD's directly paid from the reserves. He noted the cost of the
fencing for the parks and the cost of the parks from the reserves. He stated
that when it benefits someone else Council will use the reserves, however
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when it would benefit the tax payers then they will not pull from the reserves.
He stated that the Community Center should be opened to prevent vandalism.
He stressed that the Council has borrowed from different accounts to balance
the budget and he asked when those account would be paid back.
6. He noted that he goes back to court in June and stated that he will fight and
the only way he will be taken off Council is by the voter. He stated that no
one else will remove him.
7. Stated that he is not in conflict with 107 East Graham. He stated that
approving or disapproving a project does not guarantee his rent.
8. He stated that it was his pleasure to be with the kids on Students in
Government Day. He noted that it is important to tell the truth, since they
need to know that being on Council is not all glitter and glamour. He stated
that there are faults in the City and they need to be corrected and that is not
done by misleading the public or any part of the Council.
9. He stated that the race is coming up in June and Council does not have a race
car. He challenges the Council to put up one month of their salary at $300
each towards purchasing a vehicle and the City could put up the rest of the
money to facilitate the City participating in the car race. He stressed that this
is one of the best things that the Chamber has done to bring people together
and it is a lot of fun.
City Manager Watenpaugh stated that Mr. Molendyk's letter to Council was
a request for them to consider his ability to retire and be retained on payroll
as Special Projects Manager through May 1. He noted that there was nothing
in his letter that stipulated that stated that he was retired on July 1. He noted
that it did state May 1, and was a request for a change in status. He noted
that the City Manager does have the ability to do that since he was on
contract and does not have to comply with all of the rules and regulations that
is in the MOU. He further noted that he does have the ability to negotiate.
He explained that is what he asked of Council and it was discussed and
Council concurred by a 4 -0 vote in Closed Session. He stated that a
severance package was negotiated, which was Mr. Molendyk's right and an
amount of $29,000 was agreed upon. He stated that the question of accrued
benefits is not in question since he was functioning as a Special Projects
Manager. City Manager Watenpaugh explained that yes the City has taken
money over a six year period from the reserves to subsidize the CFD's. He
noted that it was not required, however it was part of a financial strategy that
Council Approved in an effort to reestablish our financial problems. He noted
that the market was not in Lake Elsinore and the City overextended, however
the City has a new financial team and the $500,000 loan and the other loans
will be recovered through our financial strategy. He noted that $300,000 was
borrowed from the Library Fund and $50,000 from the Park Fund and
although there has been no time line set, the monies will be repaid.
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Mayor Pro Tem. Kelley commented on the following:
1. Addressed the issue of the Community of Interest and noted that the process
of the democratic principles.
2. Thanked the students that shadowed her during Students in Government and
noted one of her students is on the Student State Board of Education. She
noted that during the day they had the opportunity to be on the Lake and
almost rescued a skydiver who had fallen in the Lake, however the volunteers
on the Lake got to him first. She stated that the whole Government Day is
wonderful and encourages the youth to take an interest in their community.
She noted that it sparks their enthusiasm for all governmental processes and is
benefit to all of us, as well as defining the future. She stated that she hopes
that they had fun, because she certainly did.
Councilwoman Brinley commented on the following:
1. Addressed the Communities of Interest and stated that if they do not wish to
be annexed into the City, then they will not be annexed, however the City is
defending our Sphere of Influence. She explained that if there was a business
that wished to develop the other side of the City Limits and wishes to annex
and be a part of the City, they should be able to have the right to do so. In
the instance of the COI, it creates more hurdles that a developer must jump
through for approval to develop their property as part of the City. She
stressed that is the only thing that the City is asking to maintain. She further
explained that this gives the right for anyone who wishes to annex into the
City to do so. She noted that the City does not wish to absorb the problems
of Cleveland Ridge, however the City does wish to have the right to allow
annexation if the property owner wishes to do so, therefore that is why the
City is taking legal action. She further noted that of the nine COI's that
LAFCO has approved, five adversely affect Lake Elsinore. She noted that
there are no other LAFCO's in the State that have created COI's and this
LAFCO is setting precedents through their actions, and therefore the City
must take action to secure our Economic Development.
2. Asked the City Attorney to address Mr. Molendyk's contract and noted that
the City was not in violation of the Brown Act.
City Attorney Leibold concurred that there were no Brown Act violations.
She stated that there was a Closed Session, personnel discussion in 1997, that
was appropriately noticed and the scope of the discussion was based on the
parameters of the Brown Act. She noted that there was another item that was
listed for Closed Session and was not discussed, therefore there was no
Brown Act violations.
Councilwoman Brinley stated that she felt that it was necessary to have issues
clarified because there are people in the community making false acquisitions
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and she wanted the entire community to have the facts. She noted that is the
purpose of having a City Attorney present at Council Meetings for both the
Meeting and the Closed Session is to advise Council so they are not in
violation of the Brown Act.
3. Noted that the circus will be in Lake Elsinore on Saturday, the 18th, with
performances at 2:00 p.m. and 6:00 p.m.
4. Stated that if someone in the community has an announcement or event that
they would like to have announced, please let her know and she will be happy
to help.
5. Bob Johnson asked that she announce that Tuscany Hills is having a
Community garage sale on Saturday, April 25, with garages opening their
doors at 7:00 a.m. She noted that 45 homes participated in the last garage
sale and signs will be posted at key intersections throughout the community to
direct the public to the key homes. Each sale will close at the homeowners
discretion.
6. Thanked the students that participated in Students in Government Day and
stated her pleasure in seeing that they are up on current events within the
City. She thanked the parents of the students for doing a good job.
Councilman Metze commented on the following:
1. Noted his enjoyment he experienced working with the students from Students
in Government Days and stated his appreciation of the kids that participate in
Students in Government Day as well as Student of the Month. He stated that
he felt that we are in good hands for the future due to the quality of the kids
that he sees participate in these programs.
2. Noted the amnesty program through LEAF for the licensing of cats and dogs.
He explained that the program will be for the next couple of months and for
those people that have not licensed their cats and dogs, they may do so
without a fine.
3. Commented on the Community of Interests and stated that the City's action
will be through the California Environmental Quality Act because the City
does feel that the Community of Interests are creating an environmental
impact on the City.
Mayor Pape commented on the following:
1. Thanked the students who following him for the day and commended the
program.
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someone has an animal that they cannot care for any longer or a stray, they
can take it to LEAF without charge, however they will gratefully accept any
donations.
None.
1 1 P-3-\ .0
THE REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING WAS ADJOURNED AT 9:00
P.M.
VIN W. PAPS, MAYOR
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
AT EST:
VICKI KASAD, CITY CLERK
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
MINUTES
REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
183 NORTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA
TUESDAY, APRIL 28, 1998
CALL TO ORDER
The Regular City Council Meeting was called to order by Mayor Pape at 7:07 p.m.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
The Pledge of Allegiance was led by City Attorney Leibold.
INVOCATION
None.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: ALONGI, KELLEY,
METZE, PAPE
ABSENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: BRINLEY
Also present were: City Manager Watenpaugh, City Attorney Leibold,
Administrative Services Director Boone, Community Development Director
Brady, Community Services Director Sapp, Fire Chief Seabert, Police Chief
Walsh, City Engineer O'Donnell, Recreation & Tourism Manager Edelbrock,
Senior Planner Villa and City Clerk Kasad.
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a. Proclamation - National Tourism Week. (F:122.1)
Mayor Pape read and presented the National Tourism Week to Recreation &
Tourism Manager Edelbrock. Ms. Edelbrock commented on the importance
of tourism for the City, and noted that Americans in the United States spend
over $1 billion per year on travel and tourism. She noted that the top three
activities for tourists are shopping, outdoor activities and museums &
historical sites; and compared those items to the attributes of Lake Elsinore.
She thanked the Council for the recognition of this event and looked forward
to future special events and activities. Mayor Pape concurred that Tourism is
an important factor for the community.
Linda Nanetti, resident of Cimarron Road, noted the Tourism Week
proclamation, and indicated that she thinks it is great, but if there is going to
be a tour bus it should also show people the negative aspects of the
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community. She concluded that Lake Elsinore is a great town of which she is
an 18 year resident, but it has been mismanaged.
b. Proclamation - Mental Health Month.(F:122.1)
No one present for presentation.
Tammy Fruin, representing the Chamber of Commerce, updated the Council
on upcoming special events being: 1) the Mini -Grand Prix on June 6th, in
connection with the Marketplace on Saturday and Sunday; 2) the pre -race
bar- be -que on June 3rd at Roadrunner R.V. Park. 3) the Street fair on June 3
and 4 with over 100 vendors. 4) the May Mixer at Inland Valley Regional
Medical Center, hosted with Primecare America, May 28th at 5:30 p.m.; 5)
Golf Tournament in August. She further updated the Council on the activities
of the EDC Connections, advising that they received a grant of $35,000 to
conduct a business survey. She noted that the Community Image program on
Channel 3 has been very well received. She indicated that the next show will
start airing on April 29th. She noted that the EDC Connections group
continues to work on business retention and attraction and seminars.
PUBLIC COMMENTS - AGENDIZED ITEMS
Requests were received to address the following items and deferred to those
discussions:
Item Nos. 31 and 32.
CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS
MOVED BY KELLEY, SECONDED BY METZE AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO APPROVE THE
CONSENT CALENDAR AS PRESENTED.
1. The following Minutes were received and ordered filed:
a. Planning Commission Meeting - April 1, 1998. (F:60.3)
b. Design Review Committee Meeting - April 1, 1998. (F:60.4)
2. Ratified Warrant List for April 15, 1998. (F:12.3)
3. Rejected and referred to Claims Administrator for handling, the Claim
Against the City submitted by John Evans ( CL #98 -14).. (F:52.2)
31. Second Reading - Zone Change No. 98 -2 - Kentucky Fried Chicken -
Ordinance No. 1036. (F:172.2)
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City Manager Watenpaugh highlighted this item.
Councilman Alongi indicated that he had checked on this matter and there
was no problem with him voting on it, so he would not be abstaining.
MOVED BY METZE, SECONDED BY KELLEY TO ADOPT
ORDINANCE NO. 1036, UPON SECOND READING BY TITLE ONLY:
ORDINANCE NO. 1036
AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA, REZONING .62 (.61 NET) ACRES
LOCATED ON RIVERSIDE DRIVE BETWEEN SAINT CHARLES
PLACE AND WALNUT DRIVE, FROM C -P (COMMERCIAL PARK
DISTRICT) TO C -2 (GENERAL COMMERCIAL) ZONING
DISTRICT (ZONE CHANGE NO. 98 -2 - KENTUCKY FRIED
CHICKEN).
UPON THE FOLLOWING ROLL CALL VOTE:
AYES: COUNCILMEMBERS: ALONGI, KELLEY,
METZE, PAPE
NOES: COUNCILMEMBERS: NONE
ABSENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: BRINLEY
ABSTAIN: COUNCILMEMBERS: NONE
32. Formation CFD 98 -1 - Summerhill Public Improvements (Overlay District
FD 91-2). (F:22.3)
City Manager Watenpaugh noted that there were representatives of the
finance team present. He noted the previously approved financial strategy for
the CFD's, and explained that this action is to set a public hearing by adoption
of the Resolution of Intent.
Chris Hyland, 15191 Wavecrest Drive, noted a news article regarding the
City refinancing a bankrupt tract. She commented that the public has heard
for the last year that the problems are not the fault of this Council, but the
Council keeps adding more bond issues to the City. She indicated that the
Council keeps taking money out of the General Fund to refinance the bonds.
She finther indicated that this person has never come up with the money and
never will; and she is sick and tired of paying for it.
Don Hunt, Fulbright and Jaworski, bond disclosure counsel, clarified that this
proposal is part of the restructuring plan approved in January of this year. He
stressed that this overlay was requested by the developer as part of the
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settlement; and no financing will occur until the houses are built. He
clarified that none of this is from the City General Fund; and none will be
paid by the City of Lake Elsinore residents, aside from the property owners
within this tract.
Councilman Alongi inquired whether Mr. Kipp has deposited the appropriate
funds. Mr. Hunt indicated that he has not to date. Councilman Alongi
requested confirmation that no bonds will be issued until the complete project
is built, and those who buy the homes will be the only ones responsible for
the payments. Mr. Hunt indicated that there will be no bonds until there is a
3 to 1 value to lien ratio. He reiterated that all payments will be the
obligations of the home buyers in the tract and the City has no obligation to
pay for those bonds.
Councilman Alongi expressed concern that the tract could be half developed
at 3 to 1. Mr. Hunt indicated that it is a statewide standard, but the Council
will ultimately decide if that ratio is sufficient. Councilman Alongi indicated
that, with all due respect, if Mr. Gunn and Mr. Hunt had been here from the
start, he would not be so skeptical. Mr. Hunt clarified that this action is
necessary no matter who the developer or property owner is, and stressed that
this was part of the overall restructuring plan. He reiterated that the final
decision will still be up to the Council at the time of funding.
Mayor Pape clarified that this action will only set the public hearing. Mr.
Hunt concurred and indicated that it may be 3 to 5 years in the future, before
this refinancing is possible. Mr. Pape reiterated that there would be no bonds
until homes are built and people are living there; and only those who purchase
homes within the tract are responsible for these bonds.
Councilman Alongi again questioned if the homes to be built will only be
assessed for their share of the bonds and not be required to absorb the costs
for any unconstricted lots. Mr. Hunt confirmed that they will only be
responsible for their fair share.
MOVED BY KELLEY, SECONDED BY ALONGI TO ADOPT THE
RESOLUTION OF INTENTION NO. 98-7 TO ESTABLISH COMMUNITY
FACILITIES DISTRICT NO. 98-1 AND ADOPT THE RESOLUTION OF
INTENTION NO 98 -8 TO INCUR BONDED INDEBTEDNESS.
Dick Knapp, elected City Treasurer, detailed the history of this property and
the payments which have been made to assist it. He suggested that former
Mayor Washburn and former City Manager Molendyk worked for two years
to put this package together, and questioned what they are getting out of this
deal.
Mayor Pape reiterated that only those people who buy homes, will be
responsible for the bonds, not the rest of the taxpayers.
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Councilman Metze stressed that this is not an additional $20 million.
THE FOREGOING MOTION CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF
THOSE PRESENT.
PUBLIC COMMENTS - NON - AGENDIZED ITEMS
Dean Billings, noted his previous visits to the City Council and his plans for "Lake
Us and More ". He indicated that he would still like to implement the plan, but he
does not have the financial resources. He addressed the need to filter the water
coming down from Canyon Lake and indicated that he is tired of people putting the
City down. He indicated that he would appreciate the Council obtaining complete
knowledge of Hemp farming and wheat juice for filtration. He stressed the potential
uses of Hemp and suggested that people have been mislead by the Marijuana hype.
He suggested that the residents come together as a community.
Chris Hyland, 15191 Wavecrest, noted the upcoming election in June and expressed
support for Judge Vic Saradarian for the Superior Court, Tom Eicherd for District
Attorney and Dr. Wiebe for County Superintendent of Schools.
Dick Knapp, Elected City Treasurer, expanded on his discussion of CFD 98 -1 and
indicated that he did a lot of homework on this topic when he was elected in
November of 1995. He suggested that the property should have been foreclosed on
a long time ago. He stressed the amount of money paid out to assist this District.
Mayor Pape indicated that this has already been discussed on the agenda and voted
upon. Mr. Knapp stressed that there has been a lot of money spent on this property
and a lot of money has been given to the ex -City Manager to work out a deal on this
matter. He further indicated that the ex -Mayor is a consultant for this firm and
people should know about it.
CITY MANAGER COMMENTS
No Comments.
CITY COUNCIL COMMENTS
Mayor Pro Tent Kelley had no comments.
Councilman Alongi commented on the following:
1. Expressed his confusion regarding the responsibility for the bonds and asked
why the matter was on the City Council Agenda and not the Public Finance
Authority's Agenda.
2. Commented on calls he received regarding Weed Abatement and the dust
problem. He stated that there is an ordinance regarding dust and the
contractors are required to wet the lots prior to discing when it is windy. He
noted that the public can call Code Enforcement to visit the sites and see if
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the people mowing or discing have City business licenses. He stated to his
knowledge there is only one contractor licensed to do Weed Abatement and
that is Smith's Tractor Service.
3. Congratulated the County of Riverside for extending their RDA into
Wildomar and Lakeland Village areas. He explained that the County is going
to allow the citizens of those areas to elect their own board. He noted that
the County Supervisors have the final say, however the citizens of the
affected area are going to have input.
4. Reported on a fund raiser that he attended at Terra Cotta School, sponsored
by several local churches for scholarships for the youth. He cautioned the
public that if they do not want a criminal element in the community they
should invest in the youth and the ability for them to gain an education. He
encouraged the citizens in the community to contact one of the participating
churches and send a check.
5. Noted a memo he received regarding slurry sealing. He stressed that the
areas east of Main Street have never been touched; and noted that it is a low
income area and is in desperate need. He stressed that the streets being slurry
sealed are in areas with $100,000 homes; and expressed his disappointment
that none of the older streets are being done. He indicated that it is the City's
responsibility to do them as well.
6. Addressed the article in the newspaper regarding the 29 police officers in the
City of Lake Elsinore and stated that he thought that included the Chief,
sergeants and investigators as well as patrol officers. He noted that Lake
Elsinore still has the highest crime rate in the area.
7. Commented on the Study Session regarding the watershed that impacts the
Lake and noted that the storm - drains drain directly into the Lake. He stated
that it is unfair to target the dairies, since so much of the water comes from
local sources. He stated that we need to clean our own environment before
we start pointing fingers at dairies since they have a hard enough time trying
to make a living.
8. Addressed the CFD and stated that he voted to set the public hearing,
however he is still trying to make up his mind. He noted that he understands
what Mr. Gunn is doing, however he does not trust the developer. He stated
that the developer has not put the money up and it is a waste of staff time.
9. Commented on the RDA and the losses that it is still experiencing.
10. Commented that the only reason that Main Street was done was because of
the location of City Hall. He noted that if the City had built a new facility, it
would have been behind the Community Center and it would have been
Graham Avenue if City Hall had been moved. He noted the Mayor's
comments regarding the Bonding for the Stadium and stated that it is up to
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$30,000,000 and the two payments on those bonds is more than was stated in
the paper.
11. He noted that Lake Elsinore is not in compliance with the law regarding
affordable housing, since the funds in the RDA have been committed until the
year 2005 to pay off the bonds. He stated that in the paper, the Finance
Director stated that the City is keeping track and the amount will eventually
be repaid to the affordable housing account. He noted that in the same
article, the Mayor states that the reason affordable housing was not built was
because there was enough low income housing in the City. He stated that
actually what the City has is slums; like Nashland which contributes 30% of
the crime in the City, as well as Joy Street and East of Main Street, Spring
and Heald Streets. He noted USA Properties and the quality of the project.
12. Submitted documents and a letter from his attorney which addresses Mr.
Molendyk's contract and instructed the City Clerk to have the information
available to the public and made part of the supporting records. He addressed
several issues as follows:
a. Vacation pay not acceptable according to the contract even through
there is a supporting memo, it is still a breech of contract.
b. Written documents do not support the position that Mr. Molendyk has
the right to accumulate more than 24 days of vacation pay. He stated
that Mr. Molendyk does not have any written document giving him this
right.
C. Written documents do not support the position that Mr. Molendyk has
the right to accumulate additional vacation pay because he has
demonstrated a good work attendance record pursuant to Section 3.8 of
the Personnel Rule for employees of the City of Lake Elsinore.
d. In conclusion in his opinion the written documentation supports the
position that Mr. Molendyk was entitled to 24 days of vacation pay, no
days of accrued sick leave and no days of accrued administrative leave
as of March 25, 1997; further, Mr. Molendyk was under a duty to
adequately inform each member of the City Council of all facts
supporting any claim he made for vacation pay, accrued sick leave or
accrued administrative leave in excess to those amounts stated above;
He did not express an opinion as to whether or not the submission of
the letter written by Mr. Molendyk and dated March 25, 1997, and the
discussion that took place by reason of the submission and the
subsequent City Council involvement violated provisions of the Brown
Act; and gave a list of the documents he has submitted to the City
Clerk.
Councilman Alongi stated that Mr. Molendyk had a responsibility to the
Council to keep them informed of the build up of his hours. He noted that
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there have been competent Assistant City Managers on staff and the City
would not have gone without supervision if Mr. Molendyk had taken vacation
when he was supposed to. He further stated that this is a case of borderline,
if not fraud, knowing that his contract did not allow him to accumulate hours.
He stressed that there is no other document allowing Mr. Molendyk to
accumulate more than any other employee of Lake Elsinore can, except for
the Memo that was put together by Mayor Pape and Councilwoman Brinley
and did not expose the other Councilmembers to the additional agreement and
there was no other resolution brought before Council to approve additional
payment to Mr. Molendyk. He noted that not only did he accumulate more
than he should have, he was also going to accumulate more as he went along
and that is wages no matter how it is sliced. He further noted that any other
contract that is done is brought before Council, as was Mr. Molendyk's
contracts in the past and this memo was not. He stated that he will not stand
for the City to be ripped -off by anyone.
13. Noted a comment made by the Mayor regarding the Theater and the fact that
it is not doing as well as expected. He stated that when the theater was
proposed, the bank wrote the City and said it was not the proper place to
locate the theater and stressed the need for a theater to sit in a shopping mall
and act as an anchor in order to be a successful project. He further stated that
is why the City had to subsidize the project.
14. Noted that Richard Knapp is an elected official and should have the right to
stand at the podium and state what he feels is wrong with the CFD's. He
indicated that the Mayor abuses his authority and may some day be sued for
removing someone from the podium, because he has no grounds to take that
action.
15. He noted that if the Council agrees and pays Mr. Molendyk, then they can be
held personally responsible for the funds that are expended.
Councilman Metze commented on the following:
1. Commented on Councilman Alongi asking questions of himself and getting
the answers he wanted to get.
2. Complimented TMC and the Storm regarding the double header at the
Stadium with the local high schools, and stated that it was a very nice
community service.
3. Addressed the Municipal Advisory Committee for Cleveland Ridge and the
statement that County services far surpass City services. He compared City
services to County Services and suggested that in fact City services are
superior. He asked the Advisory Committee to tell him what services are
better. He addressed the comment regarding the people of Cleveland Ridge
not being notified of the Sphere of Influence, however he noted that the
Sphere of Influence has been in place in that area a lot longer than most of the
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people that live there. He noted that Lakeland Village is being set up as a
RDA and they will have to sell bonds and Cleveland Ridge will be in debt.
He asked the Advisory Committee "Who do they think they are ", stressing
that if the City were not cooperating, there would be no County children
playing in City parks; the stop light on Central for the High School which is in
the County. He asked why the MAC in Cleveland Ridge does not raise
money to help support the Lake, since a large portion is in their area, however
they complain and expect City cooperation without investing.
Mayor Pape commented on the following:
1. Stated that the comments regarding the articles in the newspaper were not
quotes and therefore were not comments that he made, but were a part of the
article from the Reporter's view.
2. Stated that Council took a vote and it was 4 -0 to approve the agreement with
Mr. Molendyk; and it was brought back to Council and a majority of Council
continues to support the decision. He stated that in the future, prior to voting
on an issue, maybe the Council should have the City Clerk check to be sure
Councilman Alongi understands what he is voting on.
CITY ATTORNEY COMMENTS
1. Announced that on May 11, 1998, 6:00 p.m. at the Cultural Center, 183
North South Main Street, there will be a scoping Session on the Alberhill
Raceway Environmental Review Process to help prepare an Environmental
Impact Report. She encouraged the public to attend.
2. Reminded Council that there is a Closed Session for the Public Finance
Authority and they will have to adjourn to that Meeting.
CLOSED SESSION
None.
ADJOURNMENT
THE REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING WAS ADJOURNED AT 8:20
P.M.
A EST:
UaJJ
VICKI KASAD, CITY CLERK
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
6J
X W. PAVE, MAYOR
OF LAKE ELSINORE
MINUTES
REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
183 NORTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA
TUESDAY, MAY 269 1998
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CALL TO ORDER
The Regular City Council Meeting was called to order by Mayor Pape at 7:04 p.m.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Councilwoman Brinley.
INVOCATION
None.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: COUNCILMEMBERS:ALONGI, BRINLEY, KELLEY,
METZE, PAPE
ABSENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: NONE
Also present were: City Manager Watenpaugh, City Attorney Leibold,
Administrative Services Director Boone, Community Development Director
Brady, Community Services Director Sapp, Police Chief Walsh, Assistant to
the City Manager Best, Community Services Manager Edelbrock, Public
Works Manager Payne, City Engineer O'Donnell and City Clerk Kasad.
PRESENTATIONS
a. Proclamation - Motorcycle Awareness Month. (F:122.1)
Mayor Pape read and presented the Proclamation to ABATE
representatives. ABATE representatives thanked the Council for the
Proclamation and noted that all cities in California have been asked to
recognize Motorcycle Awareness Month. She noted that they will be
drawing riders from all over Southern California for their annual rally to be
held in Lake Elsinore this weekend. The representatives then presented the
Mayor with a Certificate of Appreciation for the support of Motorcycle
Awareness Month.
b. Presentation - Neighborhood Pride Awards. (F:56.1)
Marls Dennis, representing E.V.M.W.D. explained this locally sponsored
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program which is five years old; and noted that is intended as recognition of
the best in the community. He stressed the intent to encourage superior
property maintenance and the conservation of water resources. Community
Services Manager Edelbrock advised that there were over 20 nominations
this year, and all seven winners were present at this meeting for recognition.
She thanked the judges, Frank Geyer, Rod Kaihara, Melanie Newman and
Tammy Fruin. She noted that the City was divided into sections of like
home within the Community and there are awards in each of those areas.
She presented the award winners as follows:
Area A - Hardscape - James & Zofia Ayers
Area B - Hardscape - Roger & Patricia Miller
Area B - Mixed Use - John & Leigh Ball
Area D - Mixed Use - Carla Tryon & Diana Hughes
Area E - Hardscape - Demetrios & Peggy Tragos
Area E - Mixed Use - Robert & Lois Salchow
Grand Prize - Mike & Susan Mayer
C. Presentation - Skydive Elsinore. (F: 14.1)(X:56.1)
Larry Noggle, noted that he purchased Skydive Elsinore in October of 1996
and has always had a goal of having a business they can be proud of. He
provided an update on their progress to date and noted that the success of
their business is due in part to the cooperation of other area businesses. He
noted . upcoming events being planned and presented a framed plaque from
the Golden Knights. He noted that the area businesses made this group
feel so welcome they plan to return next year. Mr. Noggle presented the
plaque to Mayor Pape and thanked the community for their support. Mayor
Pape noted that the plaque includes a photograph, autographed by all of the
Golden Knights team members.
Mayor Pape noted that staff has been working to put together an awards
program to recognize outstanding businesses in the City, who help create a
positive image for the community. He advised that this will be a quarterly
award, of which the first goes to Skydive Elsinore. He noted that there will
be a perpetual plaque displayed in the lobby of City Hall and presented. an
individual plaque for display at the airport. Mayor Pape noted the efforts of
the airport to improve facilities, and increase the patronage and notoriety of
the airport. Mayor Pape congratulated Mr. Noggle and presented him with
the plaque. Mr. Noggle quoted Chuck Brown from the Golden Knights
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saying "we have found our winter home "; and stressed that they intend to
come back annually as the budget permits.
PUBLIC COMMENTS - AGENDIZED ITEMS
A request was received to address the following item and deferred to that
discussion:
Item No. 32.
CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS
The following items were pulled from the Consent Calendar for further discussion
and consideration:
Items Nos. 5, 61 7 and 8.
MOVED BY BRINLEY, SECONDED BY KELLEY AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO APPROVE THE BALANCE OF THE CONSENT
CALENDAR AS PRESENTED.
I . The following Minutes were approved:
a. City Council Study Session - April 2, 1998. (FA4.4)
b. Regular City Council Meeting -April 14, 1998.
C. Regular City Council Meeting - April 28, 1998.
The following Minutes were received and ordered filed:
d. Planning Commission Meeting - April 15, 1998. (F:60.3)
e. Design Review Committee Meeting - April 15, 1998. (F:60.4)
2. Ratified the following Warrant Lists:
a. April 30, 1998. (F:12.3)
b. May 14, 1998..
3 Received and ordered filed the Investment Report for March, 1998. (17:12.5)
4. Accepted assignment of the Communications Site Lease Agreement with
Pacific Bell Mobile Services for McVicker Canyon Park.
(F:68.1)(X:114.12)
9. Authorized staff to proceed with Notice of Vacancy and Advertisement for
Applications for two Planning Commission seats. (17:60.2)
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BUSINESS ITEMS
31. Amendment to Ordinance, Municipal Code Chapter 9.96 relating to Lake
Regulations - Ordinance No. 1037. (F:92.1)
City Manager Watenpaugh highlighted this item with regard to changes in
the rules on the Lake to comply with the changes to the State code; and
detailed the areas of change in the Harbors and Navigations Code.
Councilman Alongi inquired whether modifications had been made to the
noise ordinance with regard to boats. City Manager Watenpaugh indicated
he was not certain, but would check on it.
Mayor Pro Tem Kelley questioned the age limit for operating a boat.
Community Services Director Sapp indicated that this action would raise it
to 16 years old.
MOVED BY BRINLEY, SECONDED BY ALONGI TO ADOPT
ORDINANCE NO. 1037 UPON FIRST READING BY TITLE ONLY:
ORDINANCE NO. 1037
AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA ADDING SECTIONS 9.96.220
AND 9.96.230 OF THE LAKE ELSINORE MUNICIPAL CODE.
UPON THE FOLLOWING ROLL CALL VOTE:
AYES: COUNCILMEMBERS: ALONGI, BRINLEY,
KELLEY, METZE, PAPE
NOES: COUNCILMEMBERS:NONE
ABSENT: COUNCILMEMBERS:NONE
ABSTAIN: COUNCILMEMBERS:NONE
32. City Council Policy - Palm Tree Removal. (F:120.1)
City Manager Watenpaugh highlighted this item, and explained that the
power lines restrict the height of these trees; so they go out and top the
trees. He further explained that when palm trees are topped, the tree will
die; and this is an attempt to preserve those trees at no added cost to the
power company or City. He noted that offers have been made by
landscapers to come in, remove them and give a token fee to the City and
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turn around and sell them. He explained that the intent of this item is that
when staff is notified that the power company will be topping trees, staff
would have gone out to a request for proposals from developers or
landscapers to remove those trees. He noted that part of the proposal
would require removal and relocation of a tree for the City for every so
many trees removed. He commented that there has been interest expressed
by developers to move the trees and keep them in the community. He noted
that the projected revenue is $50,000 for the coming year, but that figure is
not really known, as it would vary from year to year. He further noted that
this item would incorporate a monitoring program on the private property
tree removal as well. He commented that seven or eight years ago there
were a number of poachers of the trees on both public and private property.
He stressed that this monitoring program would protect the private property
owner as well. He indicated that staff will bring the RFP back to Council
when it is completed.
Dick Knapp, City Treasurer, disagreed with the proposed policy, indicating
that he doesn't think it has gone far enough. He noted the trees which he
believes are in the right -of -way and suggested that the power lines should
be removed instead of the trees. He suggested that with regard to the fiscal
impact the City would spend $50,000 if there were 3,000 trees to sell. He
noted trees which were previously stolen and the money lost in those trees;
and indicated that they have created a hazardous situation for children with
the palm fronds. He indicated that they are not filling the holes properly, as
they should be filled with D.G. and compacted. He suggested that staff
should go back to the drawing board, and indicated that the City can only
account for about 5% of the 3,000 trees and the rest are privately owned.
He noted the need for insurance to cover the City if the contractor screws
up.
City Manager Watenpaugh indicated that those issues will be covered in the
RFP, but the policy should not be a problem.
Councilman Alongi questioned if this was only a matter of trees which
interfere with the power lines. City Manager Watenpaugh clarified that this
also includes sight line obstructions, ingress /egress, and power line right -of-
ways. He questioned if there are two palm trees in front of a residence, in
the right -of -way, can the property owner maintain them and trim them to
prevent removal. City Manager Watenpaugh indicated if it is not a sight
line problem, the City would maintain them. Councilman Alongi stressed
that these trees are expensive, but he is looking for a way that when this
Council is not sitting here, the trees will be protected. He indicated that not
too many trees are interfering with power lines, but stressed that there are a
tremendous amount of trees in the public right -of -way. He noted that Mr.
Knapp brought up an interesting observation, as the City always seems to
get sued. He expressed hopes that when the trees are removed that
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inspectors would be present to ensure that proper compaction takes place
when the trees are removed. He stressed that unless someone is there to
enforce the requirements, there is generally going to be a problem. City
Manager Watenpaugh indicated that he did not see any reason that
stipulation could not be added to the Council Policy to include removal of
palm fronds and filling and compaction of the holes. Community Services
Director Sapp indicated that the RFP will require that a supervisor be on-
site and require compaction of the soil; but offered the alternative of
modifying the policy. Councilman Alongi inquired if there would be a fine
imposed if the work was not properly inspected, and stressed the importance
of assuring compliance to prevent a dangerous situation. City Attorney
Leibold indicated that the contract would require appropriate insurance and
compliance with the specifications of the work. Councilman Alongi
indicated that he would like a fine included in the policy and stressed the
need for an extreme fine, if they do not have it properly inspected. City
Attorney Leibold indicated that it would be possible to include a penalty or
liquidated damage clause in the contract.
Councilwoman Brinley expressed concern that great caution is exercised in
the private property situations; and would want verbiage to assure that staff
would work with the property owners for a reasonable solution.
Community Services Director Sapp indicated that they will have a surveyor
out to verify that the trees are in the public right -of -way. Councilwoman
Brinley stressed that she wants to assure that the City is user friendly.
Mayor Pro Tem Kelley noted that the calls she has received on this item
were based on the articles in the newspaper. She reiterated that the only the
trees in immediate danger of being topped by the Edison Company would
be removed. She stressed that the trees should be kept in the community
wherever possible. She indicated that she felt the RFP would adequately
cover the safety concerns.
Councilwoman Brinley suggested that the motion include the additional
requirements.
Councilman Metze questioned if condition number 3 in the proposed policy
would address the concerns. Councilwoman Brinley indicated that if a tree
is on someone's private property, she doesn't want to see areas for argument.
MOVED BY BRINLEY, SECONDED BY ALONGI TO APPROVE THE
PROPOSED POLICY WITH MODIFIED CONDITIONS AS DISCUSSED.
City Attorney Leibold requested clarification that the modified conditions
involved insurance requirements and specifications for compaction. Mayor
Pro Tern Kelley requested that staff be directed to work to relocate the trees
within the City whenever possible.
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WITH THE CONSENT OF THE SECOND, THE MAKER OF THE
MOTION AMENDED THE MOTION TO INCLUDE INSURANCE
REQUIREMENTS, SPECIFICATIONS FOR COMPACTION AND THE
DIRECTION TO STAFF FOR RELOCATION OF TREES WITHIN THE
CITY WHENEVER POSSIBLE. THE FOREGOING MOTION CARRIED
BY UNANIMOUS VOTE.
ITEMS PULLED FROM CONSENT CALENDAR
CR & R Annual Consumer Price Index (CPI) Increase for Refuse
Collection. (F:68.1)(X:163.1)
City Manager Watenpaugh noted that this is a procedural item, which is part
of the contract in place since 1992. He advised that the 1998 -99 fees would
increase by 20 cents per month. He noted that David Fahrion, President of
CR & R was present to respond to questions.
Councilman Alongi indicated that he pulled this item for a couple of
reasons, one being to note that it was a very small increase. He thanked Mr.
Fahrion and CR & R for doing a great job for the City of Lake Elsinore. He
noted their extra efforts to meet the needs of the community, and thanked
them for that service. He indicated that he would still like to see how they
could make it possible to collect delinquent commercial accounts, in the
same way residential accounts are resolved.
MOVED BY ALONGI, SECONDED BY METZE TO CONFIRM THE
APPLICATION OF NEW RATES FOR REFUSE PICK -UP, RECYCLING
AND DISPOSAL, EFFECTIVE JULY 1, 1998.
Mayor Pape noted that this is a housekeeping item, but indicated that he got
a call with regard to mobile home parks, indicating that they do not have a
lot of green waste. He suggested that a reduced rate be made available to
those residents. He noted that in working with Mr. Fahrion and the City
Manager, it looks like a reduction may be possible.
Mayor Pro Tern Kelley supported the comments of Councilman Alongi; and
noted that CR & R has been very generous with contributions to the FIT
Committee.
Mr. Fahrion noted that a reduced rate has been negotiated in some cases for
mobile home parks; and would be happy to address those issues
individually as they arise. Mayor Pape expressed appreciation for this
consideration.
THE FOREGOING MOTION CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE.
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6. Award of Contract - 1997 -98 Slurry Seal Project - California Pavement
Maintenance - $95,486.83. (F:156.1)
City Manager Watenpaugh noted that the City has not done a lot of street
repairs in the recent past, but is starting that process with this item. He
noted that 17 contractors were contacted within the City and the
surrounding area; 9 bid packages were purchased and three sealed bids were
submitted. He detailed the bids submitted and the related inspection and
contract costs. He noted that efforts are underway to reallocated funds
from past years to get the annual street slurry seal program back on track.
He further noted that staff is out to bid on the Mission Trail project.
Councilman Alongi concurred with the intent of slurry seal, but indicated
that there are streets which would not cause a problem, if they were not
done.
He specifically noted streets such as Gunnerson, Bromley and other dirt
streets in that area. He stressed that there are a lot of streets which could
wait until next year and shift the funds to other areas; and questioned
whether the streets were chosen due to the income level of the people in
those areas.
MOVED BY ALONGI, SECONDED BY BRINLEY TO AWARD THE
CONTRACT TO CALIFORNIA PAVEMENT MAINTENANCE IN THE
AMOUNT OF $95,486.83.
Mayor Pape reiterated that this was only for the slurry seal project, as part
of the routine street maintenance program. He indicated that additional road
repairs will be provided in the next year which could exceed $3 million of
work. He further indicated that the areas chosen this year were felt to be
very much in need of this maintenance, and noted that next year different
streets and areas will be addressed.
Councilman Metze suggested that staff explain how these areas were
chosen. City Manager Watenpaugh indicated that it was part of the program
initiated in 1988. He concurred that many streets are in need of substantial
repairs and indicated that the balance of $30,000, will be rolled into
additional projects.
THE FOREGOING MOTION CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE.
7. Resolution No. 98 -9 - Opposing Proposition 224 on the June 2 1998 State
Ballot. (F:96.1)(X:60.1)
City Manager Watenpaugh apologized for not bringing this item to a study
session, but indicated that there has been a great deal of discussion of this
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item. He explained the changes proposed by this Proposition, and noted
that the area City Manager's are opposed to the State taking control of this
area.
Councilman Alongi indicated that he does not believe the Council should
get involved in these propositions, although it is a good point, as he has
heard the same discussion for six and a half years. He indicated that he is
personally upset with the Proposition, but he is not sure what the real
situation is. He noted that the last meeting was canceled and this would
have been a good issue for discussion at that meeting. He stressed that this
issue belongs to the people and suggested that it was out of place being on
the agenda. HE indicated that he is opposed to the DMV tax issue under
consideration and noted that if the tax is eliminated, it will hurt the City of
Lake Elsinore. He suggested that sometimes we have to vote for things we
don't believe in, and stressed that it is up to the public to decide what goes
where. He indicated that he will not oppose this item, even if the rest of the
Council opposes it, as there is not enough information to make that
decision.
Mayor Pro Tem Kelley indicated that this item is very pertinent for
discussion by the City Council; as the slurry seal project was just approved
by the Council. She stressed that under the Proposition it would have to go
to the State for consideration and approval. She indicated that she was
willing to support the recommendation.
MOVED BY KELLEY, SECONDED BY BRINLEY TO ADOPT
RESOLUTION NO. 98 -9:
RESOLUTION NO. 98 -9
A RESOLUTION OF THE LAKE ELSINORE CITY COUNCIL
OPPOSING PROPOSITION 224 ON THE JUNE 2, 1998 STATE
BALLOT.
Councilwoman Brinley noted that it would be time consuming it this
approval process was the responsibility of the State. Mayor Pape indicated
that this was an example of big government trying to grab a bigger portion
of the pie, but he was uncertain what difference it would make, aside from
harming local projects.
THE FOREGOING MOTION CARRIED BY A VOTE OF 4 TO 1 WITH
ALONGI CASTING THE DISSENTING VOTE.
Tuscany Hills Tract 17413 -7 - Landscaped Slope Easements on Lots 19, 22,
23 and 24. (F:160.2)
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City Manager Watenpaugh explained this item and noted the impact of
Proposition 218, which limited Lighting and Landscape Maintenance
District funding possibilities. He further explained that an agreement has
been worked out wherein several slopes will be dedicated back to the
landscape maintenance corporation for maintenance. He detailed the
location of the lots being considered for dedication; and stressed that this is
a minimal way to have the slopes maintained.
Councilman Alongi indicated that he pulled this item, because he doesn't
see a reason to dedicate the property back to Tuscany Hills; as we have
other properties which belong to the City and the property owners maintain
the landscaping. He noted the potential that the City may want to do
something with that property in the future; and suggested it was not
necessary to turn the property over to someone else to allow them to
maintain it. He indicated that he feels bad that they will have to accept that
expense.
Mayor Pape questioned who owns the property. City Manager Watenpaugh
clarified that the City holds an easement for landscape maintenance, but the
property is owned by the property owners. He noted past discussions
regarding Summerhill Drive and Via Estrada with regard to not accepting
any of those slopes, and stressed that it would not be in the City's
ownership. Mayor Pape stressed that the property is owned by the home
owners and the City cannot afford to fund maintenance. Mayor Pape
indicated that the homeowners are doing a good job now.
MOVED BY PAPE, SECONDED BY KELLEY AND CARRIED BY A
VOTE OF 4 TO 1 WITH ALONGI CASTING THE DISSENTING VOTE
TO DEDICATE THE SLOPE EASEMENTS ON LOTS 199 22, 23, AND 24
OF TRACT 17413 -7 TO THE TUSCANY HILLS LANDSCAPE AND
RECREATION CORPORATION; AND AUTHORIZE THE MAYOR AND
CITY CLERK TO EXECUTE AND RECORD THE DOCUMENTS.
THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING WAS RECESSED AT 8:09 P.M.
THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING RECONVENED AT 8:25 P.M.
PUBLIC COMMENTS - NON- AGENDIZED ITEMS
Frank Papasavas, 30381 Hill Avenue, commented on proposed House Bill 2439,
which is a law to outlaw all two cycle engines on lakes. He recommended to
Council that should this bill come to a vote, that they write a letter in strong
opposition to this action. Mayor Pape asked that Mr. Papasavas give a copy of the
Bill to the City Cleric to allow Council to consider the matter.
Janet Williams, 15231 Washington Avenue, explained that they live in the
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Northlake Tract and Terra Cotta turns into Washington Ave. She noted the
speeding problems that her area is experiencing, and noted the near death that
occurred shortly after they moved into their home. She asked that the problem be
'addressed to make the area safer.
Claude Williams, 15231 Washington Avenue, noted the danger on their street and
asked that some type of method be used to slow traffic down to insure the safety
of the children in the area. He stated that there are no speed signs in the area and
the vehicles travel through the area at speeds reaching approximately 70 miles per
hour. He noted the excuses that the police give, why they cannot address this
issue. Mayor Pape asked that Mr. and Mrs. Williams talk with Chief Walsh
regarding the problem.
Harold Holland, 15610 Lake Terrace Drive, stated his concern regarding the
conduct of Code Enforcement over banners for the First Baptist Church. He noted
a sign that were left up after the last election and Code Enforcement's
unwillingness to have that removed. He stated that Council needs to take a hard
look at Code Enforcement and if Council wishes to enforce the codes, then do it.
He noted the number of banners and illegal signs in the community that Code
Enforcement has not addressed. He suggested that the City review the codes as
they apply to non - profit organizations. He commended the different organizations
in the community who help the poor.
Leroy Tucker, 3532 Cherry Blossom Lane, addressed the proposed race track
andquestioned if there would be work done on Lakeshore or Nichols Road. He
questioned ingress and egress from the proposed race track. He noted the problem
in the past with a proposed development and its failure because of the requirement
for them to build a sewer facility to service their project. He asked if EVMWD
will required the race track to provide a sewer facility. He noted the amount of
people that could be attending events and asked what they will be done about
waste. He asked that the developers have some of the race cars brought to the site
and run their engines to allow the surrounding residents the opportunity to judge
exactly how much noise they will generate. He addressed the problems that the
residents will have with noise.
Dick Knapp, City Treasurer, noted the condition of the State Park. He stated that
there are squatters in the facility as well as weeds and trash. He questioned why
Council and staff have allowed it to get in the condition that it is in.
Donald Ketch, 505 N. Ellis St., questioned the lack of money in the City. He
noted the amount of people using the Lake and the amount of businesses in the
community. He asked that people stop arguing about money and get on with what
should be done.
Chris Hyland, 15191 Wavecrest Drive, read an article from the Perris Press
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regarding the expenditure of their City's funds and the amount that is being paid to
Ron Molendyk the former City Manager. She stated she felt that Perris got off
easy and noted the amount that was paid by this City to Ron Molendyk in the last
year. She asked why his salary was not brought to open Council for vote and who
authorized the checks to be paid. She further asked why a contract was not written
stating the given amounts. She stated that it appears that Mr. Molendyk was kept
on as a regular employee, even though he was suppose to be a contract employee
for certain projects. She further stated that the tax payers of the City should ask
for the resignation of Pape, Brinley and Metze. She stated that in her opinion this
is fraud and someone should be held accountable.
CITY MANAGER COMMENTS
1. Commented on the campground and stated that the City has not been doing
a daily maintenance. He stated that it is going to be abated for weeds and
the trees will be trimmed. He noted that in two weeks a proposal will be
brought before Council to reopen the facility. He gave an overview of what
was previously done to the facility.
2. Commented on the previous City Manager's retirement package that was
agreed to and reaffirmed by Council and explained that it is not an unusual
package that is given to someone who retires from top management.
CITY ATTORNEY COMMENTS
1. Announced that there will be another Scoping Session under CEQA
regarding the Lusk Proposal, Annexation, General Plan Amendment, Zone
Change and Tentative Tract Map. She noted that the meeting will be held at
6:00 p.m., Monday, June 8, 1998, at the Cultural Center. She stated that the
purpose of the Scoping Session is to help establish the parameters of the
Environmental Impact Report in connection with Lusk Project.
2. Asked that an additional item be added to the Closed Session under Existing
Litigation. She noted that the item is Elsinore versus Sportsman Lodge,
Case Number 257164 and is currently in Trial. She stated that there is a
need to up -date which occurred after the time of posting Agenda. She
explained that with four- fifths approval the item can be added.
MOVED BY METZE, SECONDED BY BRINLEY AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO ADD AN ITEM TO THE CLOSED SESSION AS
FOLLOWS: EXISTING LITIGATION - CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
VERSUS SPORTSMAN LODGE - CASE NUMBER 257164.
CITY COUNCIL COMMENTS
Councilman Alongi commented on the following:
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1. Stated that he will not comment on Ron Molendyk, other than he paid for
the investigation and it is up to the public to do as they see fit. He stated
that he has too much respect for City Manager Watenpaugh and the City
Attorney to get personally involved. He explained that he did not agree
with the action and he feels that it is wrong, however it is up to the
community to do something about it.
2. Hoped that Main Street has a good turn out on the first of the month at the
Street Faire.
3. Thanked Public Works for the good job that they did on the alley's in the
City.
4. Noted the calls he received from the people on and around Washington
Street. He stated that Government moves pretty slow, however when the
City makes a decision about that area, Council has to be sure it is the right
one. He noted the Law Suit that the City was in where the lady was under
the influence of PCP and the City was still held responsible for the
damages, therefore we have to be very careful in regard to traffic control.
He stated that he understands where the community is coming from,
however the City still has to be very careful
5. Addressed the lack of money in the City and noted that this occurred
because of some of the investments that Council made that were wrong. He
stated that the City takes millions of their dollars and spends it on investors
in the community that we are not suppose to be responsible for. He noted
the cost
of the Stadium and explained that the lake recreation does not produce the
amount of income necessary to meet the debts that the City must take care
of.
6. Commended staff for the job that they did with the meeting on the race
track. He noted that the people that opposed the project were courteous to
the people that were in favor of the project and vice versa. He criticized Mr.
Foster's opinions and noted that the flier that was distributed was from one
of the largest investors in the City.
7. Commented on an incident that occurred in his neighborhood where two
ladies were taken from their home and shot to death. He stated that it is
appalling. He noted that the reason he gets so angry is because the City
takes it's dollars and spend it on the investors in this City as well as the
Stadium. He further stated that the millions of dollars that the City has
expended could have put a lot of police officers on the street, the police
officers that we have are doing a good job, it could be made better with
more. He noted that the incident could happen anywhere in the City
because the bums know the type of coverage that this City has. He stated
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that this Council needs to recognize that Public Safety is it's number one
duty to the community.
8. Noted that he visited a small town called McCloud in Northern California
and went on a three hour dinner train ride and also went to a Fair in Chico.
He stated that there was not one police officer at the Fair, but rather a bunch
of Seniors who had Tee Shirts on that said "Authority ". He explained that
they informed him that only called the police if there was a problem. He
suggested that Main Street use a similar type of patrol because it would
keep the sheriff's on the street instead of paying an armed officer when it is
not necessary.
9. Announced that next month he will be going to another hearing at the
Riverside Court and he and his attorney will be malting different motions.
He stated that this Council does not control when he goes to court or when
his case comes up. He stated that the Mayor will either be facing a felony
charge or be sued for slander and then he can sit on the hot seat.
Councilwoman Brinley commented on the following:
1. Addressed the crime that Councilman Alongi comment on. She stated that
the case is still under investigation and it is suspected that one of the
persons that was killed knew one of the perpetrators and there are still
things pending that cannot be discussed at this time. She stated that it is a
terrible thing to have happen in any City, however she felt that it is cause to
consider and start treating each other with more respect. She stressed that it
was not a random killing.
2. Addressed Mr. Ketch's comments and stated that the current Council
inherited a lot of problems and as a consequence this Council has hired a
financial team to address the issues and solve the financial problems of the
City. She noted the steps taken by Council.
3. Noted that banners have always been an issue in the City and Planning
Commission and Council have tried to address the issue fairly. She noted
the problems that the City has experienced in the past and the efforts that
Planning Commission and the Council have made to improve the
appearance of the community and bring consistency to the issue, being fair
to all. She noted that in the past there were banners put up in the City which
hung for years which brought about the Code.
4. Commented on the City Campground and agreed that it needs to be
addressed. She explained that we are now setting a new budget and she
hopes that the City will be able to bring the Park back up to standard.
5. Noted the concerns regarding Washington Avenue and spoke in favor of
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traffic control.
6. Invited the citizens to know their community better by visiting City Hall
and researching their questions with information available and staff
assistance.
7. Congratulated the people who participated in Community Pride and
commended them for a job well done.
Announced the Mini Grand Prix, sponsored by the Chamber of Commerce
on June 6, 1998 at 7:00 a.m. She further announced that there will be a
kick -off barbeque on June 3 at the Road Runner, and will cost $10.00 per
person.
Mayor Pro Tern Kelley commented on the following:
Announced the mixer for the Chamber of Commerce, this Thursday at
Inland Valley Hospital at 5:30 p.m.
2. Announced that the Library is still moving forward and the ribbon cutting
will occur sometime in July, with the Grand Opening in September.
Encouraged everyone to attend the Grand Prix.
-.4. Announced the Temescal Canyon High School "Safe and Sober Grad
Night". She stated that it will be inside the new main gym and the theme
will be Grad Knight. The facility will be open to the public on June 12,
1998, 5:00 to 7:00 p.m. to see the sets that were used.
Ask for a consensus from Council to pursue forming an Arts Council. City
Attorney Leibold suggested that Mayor Pro Tern Kelley work with the staff
to place an item on the next agenda for a formal action from Council.
Mayor Pro Tem Kelley agreed. She stated that she is setting small goals for
the beginning and it will start with a concert in the park.
Councilman Metze commented on the following:
1. Assured Mr. Tucker that the race track is a long way from being done and
approved. He noted that there are still many things that need to be
addressed in the Environmental Impact Report. He encouraged the people
to attend the meetings regarding the race track to state their concerns so that
the City has the opportunity to see that they are mitigated.
2. Addressed Horsethief Canyon Homeowners Association and stated that he
did receive their letter and made sure that it was forwarded on to the
appropriate people.
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Noted that he is also tired of the people who want to stop economic growth
in the City, however it seems to be the same three or four people who do the
complaining.
Mayor Pape commented on the following:
Addressed the illegal signs and banners. He noted that Code Enforcement
does try to contract the businesses and organizations to try and get them to
comply, however after their efforts have been exhausted, they will issue a
written warning and if the owner still hasn't complied, then they will cite
them with a ticket. He further noted that the first fine is $100, then the
second time it is $250 and goes up to $500. He stated that Code
Enforcement does try to work with the owners first prior to taking stronger
action. He explained that this situation does tend to get out of hand at this
time of year due to the Weed Abatement program, however Code
Enforcement does try to keep up with the program. He noted that at this
time the City has one full time Code Enforcement Officer and one part time
Code Enforcement. He stated that Council is trying to create two full time
Code Enforcement Officers in the Budget so the City can have someone to
cover on the weekends.
2. Noted that with the new budget, Council is going to attempt to do the clean -
up work at the Campgrounds and partially open it up for camping and as
that generates income we can open up more spaces.
3. Addressed the flier that put out on the race way and noted that the flier was
not signed, so the resident cannot be blamed for not knowing who generated
the flier.
Noted an article in the Press Enterprise regarding the crime rate and further
noted that it has gone down in the last three years by 56 %. He commended
Chief Walsh and all the officers. He encouraged them to keep up the good
work.
4. Commented on former City Manager Molendyk history with the City and
noted that he stated with the City over 13 years ago and when he started
with the City he did not have a contract. He explained that this was done to
give the Council that was seated at that time the opportunity to see if he was
going to work out. Mayor Pape noted that Mr. Molendyk's job was totally
at the will of Council, therefore he made a choice to accrue his sick leave
and vacation to secure his future should Council decide that they did not
require his services. He explained that Mr. Molendyk took his action to be
able to support his family until he could find another position. Mayor Pape
noted that the Council was aware of this action and did not have. a problem
with it. He noted that there was money allocated in the budget each year to
cover the accrual which was approved by the Council's of that time. He
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cited the memo to the Finance Director from the Assistant City Manager
which states that the City Manager is exempt from personnel policies and
works at the will of the Council. Mayor Pape explained that under these
conditions it is not appropriate to deny Mr. Molendyk his hours of vacation
and sick leave. He stated that he is not sure what Councilman Alongi is
hoping to accomplish with this issue, however he felt that perhaps
Councilman Alongi is doing this to cover his own actions. He noted the
FPPC findings on Councilman Alongi and explained that he was found
guilty of four counts of Conflict of Interest which he is appealing. Mayor
Pape noted that Councilman Alongi is now going to trial on 16 Counts
called out by the Grand Jury. He explained that if Councilman Alongi is
found guilty of only one of the charges he cannot serve on a jury and noted
how odd it is that Councilman Alongi's followers do not bring that fact up.
He noted that Councilman Alongi stated to the City Manager and his face
that he did not care about the community, but was going to get what he
wanted. Mayor Pape stated that if it seems that he is upset tonight, he is,
because he is tired of certain people constantly twisting the truth and flat out
lying. He further stated that he would like to think that people elected to
public office are doing thing in the best interest of their community and
when issues come to light that show that it is not true, it is hard to accept.
He stated his opinion of Councilman Alongi's ethics. Mayor Pape
commented that he hoped the issues would be taken care of soon and these
experiences can be placed behind and the community can move on with
more positive things.
CLOSED SESSION
A. CONFERENCE WITH LEGAL COUNSEL - EXISTING LITIGATION
(Subdivision ( a) of Section 54956.9):
Koliber vs. Elsinore Valley MWD, et al - Case #217976
Harvey & Page, et al. vs. Elsinore Valley Municipal Water District, et
al. - Case #215768.
Williams & Hasson vs. City of Lake Elsinore - Case
#257165 /Williams vs. City of Lake Elsinore - Case #257162
Reichard vs. City of Lake Elsinore, et al. - Case #263258
City of Lake Elsinore vs. All Persons Interested (LAFCO) - Case
#311942.
B. CONFERENCE WITH LEGAL COUNSEL - ANTICIPATED
LITIGATION (Initiation of litigation pursuant to subdivision ( b ) of
Section 54956.9 (1 Case).
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C. CONFERENCE WITH LABOR NEGOTIATOR - United Public
Employees of California, LIUNA Local 777.
City Attorney Leibold announced the above listed existing litigation and requested
the addition of Lake Elsinore vs. Sportsman's Lodge; and noted the case of
Anticipated Litigation and Conference with Labor Negotiator.
THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING WAS ADJOURNED TO CLOSED
SESSION AT 9:31 P.M.
THE REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING RECONVENED AT 11:05
P.M. WITH THE FOLLOWING REPORTED ACTIONS.
A. CONFERENCE WITH LEGAL COUNSEL - EXISTING
LITIGATION (Subdivision (a) of Section 54956.9):
Koliber vs. Elsinore Valley MWD, et al - Case #217976
SPECIAL LEGAL COUNSEL PROVIDED A STATUS REPORT TO
THE .CITY COUNCIL AND BY A 5 -0 UNANIMOUS VOTE THE
CITY COUNCIL CONTINUED THIS ITEM TO A SPECIAL
CLOSED SESSION ON JUNE 3,1998.
Harvey & Page, et al. vs. Elsinore Valley Municipal Water District, et
al. - Case #215768.
SPECIAL LEGAL COUNSEL PROVIDED A STATUS REPORT TO
THE CITY COUNCIL AND BY A 5 -0 UNANIMOUS VOTE THE
CITY COUNCIL CONTINUED THIS ITEM TO A SPECIAL
CLOSED SESSION ON JUNE 3,1998.
Williams & Hasson vs. City of Lake Elsinore - Case #257165 /Williams
vs. City of Lake Elsinore - Case #257162.
SPECIAL LEGAL COUNSEL PROVIDED A STATUS REPORT
Reichard vs. City of Lake Elsinore, et al. - Case #263258
City of Lake Elsinore vs. All Persons Interested (LAFCO) - Case
#311942.
SPECIAL LEGAL COUNSEL PROVIDED A STATUS REPORT TO
THE CITY COUNCIL AND BY A 5 -0 UNANIMOUS VOTE
SUPPORTED LEGAL COUNCIL TO RECOMMEND TO THE
JOINT POWERS INSURANCE AUTHORITY TO FILE POST TRIAL
MOTIONS AND APPEAL.
City of Lake Elsinore vs. Sportsman's Lodge.
SPECIAL LEGAL COUNSEL PROVIDED A STATUS REPORT.
B. CONFERENCE WITH LEGAL COUNSEL - ANTICIPATED
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LITIGATION (Initiation of litigation pursuant to subdivision ( b ) of
Section 54956.9 (1 Case). DIRECTED LEGAL COUNSEL TO
PURSUE SETTLEMENT NEGOTIATIONS BY A 5 -0 UNANIMOUS
VOTE OF THE CITY COUNCIL.
C. CONFERENCE WITH LABOR NEGOTIATOR - United Public
Employees of California, LIUNA Local 777. THE CITY COUNCIL
CONTINUED THIS ITEM TO A SPECIAL CLOSED SESSION
MEETING ON JUNE 3,1998, BY A 5 -0 UNANIMOUS VOTE.
ADJOURNMENT
MOVED BY BRINLEY, SECONDED BY METZE AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO ADJOURN THE REGULAR CITY COUNCIL
MEETING AT 11:08 P.M.
EVIN W. PA E, MAYOR
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
ATTEST:
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L
VICKI KASAI), CI Y CLERK
CITY, OF LAKE ELSINORE
MINUTES
ADJOURNED CITY COUNCIL MEETING
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
130 SOUTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA
WEDNESDAY, JUNE 39 1998
The Adjourned City Council Meeting was called to order by Mayor Pape at 4:14
p.m.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: ALONGI, BRINLEY,
KELLEY, METZE, PAPE
ABSENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: NONE
Also present were: City Manager Watenpaugh, City Attorney Leibold and
City Clerk/Human Resources Director Kasad.
THE ADJOURNED CITY COUNCIL MEETING WAS ADJOURNED TO
CLOSED SESSION AT 4:15 P.M. FOR DISCUSSION OF THE
FOLLOWING ITEMS:
A. CONFERENCE WITH LEGAL COUNSEL - EXISTING LITIGATION
(Subdivision (a) of Section 54956.9) (F:52.1)
Koliber vs. Elsinore Valley Municipal Water District, et al - Case
#217976
Harvey & Page, et al. vs. Elsinore Valley Municipal Water District, et
al. - Case #215768.
B. CONFERENCE WITH LABOR NEGOTIATOR - United Public Employees
of California, LIUNA Local 777. (F:116.2)
THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING RECONVENED AT 5 :25 P.M. WITH
THE FOLLOWING ACTIONS REPORTED:
A. THE CITY COUNCIL DIRECTED SPECIAL LEGAL COUNSEL IN
CONNECTION WITH SETTLEMENT NEGOTIATIONS ON THE
IDENTIFIED EXISTING LITIGATION, BY A 5 -0 UNANIMOUS
VOTE.
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B. THE CITY COUNCIL DIRECTED CITY LABOR NEGOTIATOR IN
CONNECTION WITH THE 1997 -99 CONTRACT FOR
REPRESENTED EMPLOYEES, BY A 5-0 UNANIMOUS VOTE.
a
THE ADJOURNED CITY COUNCIL MEETIN WAS ADJOURNED AT
5:26 P.M. / n
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v W. PAPE, MAYOR
OF LAKE ELSINORE
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VICKI KASAD, CITY CLERK
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
MINUTES
CITY COUNCIL STUDY SESSION
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
130 SOUTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA
FRIDAY, JUNE 59 1998
The City Council Study Session was called to order by Mayor Pape at 9:42 a.m.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: BRINLEY, KELLEY,
METZE, PAPE
ABSENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: ALONGI
Also present were: City Manager Watenpaugh, Administrative Services
Director Boone, Community Development Director Brady, Community
Services Director Sapp, Police Chief Walsh, Assistant to the City Manager
Best, City Engineer O'Donnell, Recreation & Tourism Manager Edelbrock,
Public Works Manager and City Clerk Kasad.
A. Budget (F:30.1)
Mayor Pape noted the intent of this meeting and initiated a page by page
review of the proposed budget. He noted the addition of new positions and
additional funding for economic development. He commented on
information received yesterday in a meeting with staff regarding a proposed
retail project, particularly noting the need for new demographic and traffic
count data to facilitate projects. He stressed the need to update those
numbers and prepare brochures to assist businesses interested in coming to
the community. City Manager Watenpaugh concurred and noted that staff is
working on interim numbers to assist the developers. Councilwoman Brinley
stressed that the brochures are out of date. Mayor Pape noted a study paid
for by the developer and stressed the need for accurate numbers. Mayor Pro
Tem Kelley questioned the status of the business survey being done in
conjunction with the Chamber of Commerce and when results can be
anticipated. Larry Regis, representing the Chamber indicated that the surveys
are coming back in and follow -up work is proceeding. Assistant to the City
Manager Best indicated that 25 surveys were returned yesterday alone.
Mayor Pro Tern Kelley questioned the responses received so far. Ms. Best
indicated that there has been only cursory review of the surveys, but a
meeting is scheduled for Monday, June 8th to address them more thoroughly.
She noted that the early responses appear to show a large amount of planned
expansion of existing businesses, and indicated that they are hoping for at
least a 10% response to the 1,200 surveys mailed out.
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Councilwoman Brinley noted that on the positive side there may be some
RDA funds coming in for a positive return pending the results of a lawsuit;
and noted that things are looking very good. Councilman Metze inquired
whether funds were budgeted for sponsorship of the local EDC; and noted
that the City has been approached by neighboring cities for regional efforts in
connection with the economic gardening approach. He expressed support for
the local EDC to participate with Temecula and Murrieta. Councilwoman
Brinley indicated that we are presently on the verge of a joint effort with
those cities to look at development in the I -15 corridor.
City Manager Watenpaugh noted the employee count for the Police
Department and advised that it includes the Chief, Lieutenants and all full
time equivalents. He further noted that the City's violent crime statistics
have dropped 56% in the last three years.
Mayor Pape questioned "transfers in" on page 4. Administrative Services
Director Boone clarified where those funds originate. Councilman Metze
noted that those funds are specific to certain things. Mr. Boone confirmed
that those funds are primarily directed to public works street maintenance.
Mayor Pape noted the small projected sales tax increase and inquired whether
it would include the impacts of the two new gas stations and Lake Chevrolet.
Mr. Boone confirmed that those businesses were factored in for next year.
Councilwoman Brinley inquired whether revenue figures had been received
from Lake Chevrolet yet. City Manager Watenpaugh indicated that those
factors are not known yet, but from a sales perspective it has been better than
anticipated. He advised that the Ford dealership is in the process of closing
on its property adjacent to the Chevrolet site, and staff is working with them
to facilitate opening by March of next year.
Mayor Pro Tern Kelley questioned the "sale of property" on page 7. City
Manager Watenpaugh indicated that property is being accumulated in the
Spyglass Ridge/Ramsgate projects and they have asked to purchase 4 acres
from the City.
Councilwoman Brinley questioned the changes on replacement page 8. City
Manager Watenpaugh clarified that the projections for revenue have been
corrected; and detailed the anticipated budget and adjustments. Mayor Pape
noted that the Police Services portion is about 38% of the City's revenues.
�( He also noted the elimination of the transfer to the Stadium Councilman
Metze noted that the 38% figure does not include the Fire Services funding.
Mayor Pape noted the estimates for 1997 -98 vs. 1998 -99, and questioned the
changes in the City Council, City Clerk and City Manager budgets. City
Manager Watenpaugh indicated that those were a result of one time
expenditures and the lack of an election in this budget year. Mr.
Watenpaugh also noted that the Planning Commission has not done any travel
this year, so the proposed allocation has been reduced. Councilman Metze
noted that a lot of Planning Commission meetings did not occur in the last
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year. City Manager Watenpaugh noted some numerical corrections for Senior
Center, and indicated that the final dollar amount will not match the
replacement page.
Mayor Pape addressed page 9, noting the controversial motor vehicle in -lieu
fee and the projected revenue which could be lost. Councilman Metze noted
that this legislation was moving forward, but that does not mean that the State
will give back money. He noted the surplus amount at the State and the
amount taken away from local governments in recent years; and stressed the
need to find a means to backfill those funds. Councilwoman Brinley noted
that she would like to know why the money is not returned from the surplus.
City Manager Watenpaugh noted that there are ongoing discussions about
backfilling, but no guarantees. Mayor Pape noted that he saw Assemblyman
Rod Pacheco and discussed this matter; and there is an assembly bill that
would make it a constitutional amendment to backfill the money for the cities.
He stressed it was his intent to include that amendment with the other bill.
Councilman Metze stressed if the backfill is not guaranteed, he would want
them to explain to the constituents, why services have been cut. Mayor Pape
indicated that he is working with Assemblyman Haynes to have him come to
the City to provide information on a regional basis. Councilman Metze
stressed that the City is constantly called on the carpet, in spite of the fact that
other levels of government have impacted the City's finances.
Councilwoman Brinley supported the open forum format with State elected
officials. Councilman Metze stressed that residents don't interact with the
State representatives like they do local elected officials.
Mayor Pro Tem Kelley noted that there is nothing budgeted for the Juried
Arts Show, but the Cultural Arts Commission proposal will be on the agenda
for Tuesday.
Mayor Pro Tem Kelley addressed page 14 of the budget relating to the City
Attorney and commended the work she has done for the City. The other
Councilmembers concurred and expressed their appreciation for the City
Attorney's efforts. Councilwoman Brinley stressed the review of existing
contracts which has been done in addition to the Stadium Lease agreement
and ongoing litigation. City Manager Watenpaugh pointed out that a lot of
the pending litigation is now in court and taking a substantial amount of time.
Mayor Pro Tem Kelley questioned the reduction in Community Promotions
on page 15. Staff clarified that the reduction was due to the lack of elections
this fiscal year.
Administrative Services Director Boone noted that insurance on the Stadium
is the biggest increase on page 21, and clarified the increased cost.
Mayor Pape addressed page 23, regarding law enforcement; and inquired if
the proposed budget was adequate to keep pace with the current efforts.
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Police Chief Walsh confirmed.
Councilman Metze questioned page 25 and questioned the increase for
Community Development. City Manager Watenpaugh indicated that the
anticipated increase is because the Director's position will be filled for an
entire year.
Mayor Pape noted an increase in the Code Enforcement budget and
questioned if it was for weekend coverage. City Manager Watenpaugh
confirmed. Councilwoman Brinley indicated that it was a priority of the
Council to have a Code Enforcement Officer available on weekends.
Councilman Metze noted that he constantly heard more about Code
Enforcement and Graffiti removal than any of the other services which have
been cut. Mayor Pape concurred that these were highly visible programs.
Councilwoman Brinley concurred that the graffiti program was sorely missed;
and commended the Chamber of Commerce for their efforts to assist with
graffiti removal. Councilman Metze suggested promoting the Chamber effort
further, as several peop'_e have indicated a willingness to assist.
Councilwoman Brinley indicated that some of the Code Enforcement problem
areas are flower vendors at various locations and ice cream trucks. She
stressed the need to be sure that the ice cream trucks are licensed. Mr. Boone
indicated that there are three licensed in the City.
Councilwoman Brinley questioned page 29 and funding for the web site. City
Manager Watenpaugh indicated that the web site is in transition. Councilman
Metze expressed appreciation for the volunteer efforts going into the web site
to get it up and running. He noted that this puts the City ahead of a number of
larger cities. Councilwoman Brinley expressed appreciation for what is
already in place and the access to information it provides. Mayor Pape
questioned the ability to place the City Council Agendas on the web site.
City Manager Watenpaugh confirmed that this would occur when the site is
operational.
City Manager Watenpaugh noted that page 30 includes the reinstitution of the
engineer position. Mayor Pape questioned the public works increases on
page 31. City Manager Watenpaugh indicated that there are only standard
increases on page 31, but page 32 shows he addition of the maintenance
position.
City Manager Watenpaugh noted that page 33 reflects reimplementation of
the Park program at '/2 operations level. He clarified the level of maintenance
and staff factors, and indicated that staff will try to increase the level of
service during the hot summer months. Mayor Pro Tem Kelley questioned
how operations are working with the user groups. Community Services
Director Sapp indicated that it is working well and they have been very
cooperative. Councilwoman Brinley suggested that the Council publicly
thank the groups for their assistance and work to keep the parks
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looking nice. Councilman Metze indicated that even at a half service level,
the City is in better shape than some cities. Mayor Pro Tem Kelley
questioned the arrangements for the Girls Softball concession stand. Mr.
Sapp indicated that there has been preliminary discussion, but he is not
certain of the present status. City Manager Watenpaugh pointed out that the
one area of complaint relates to keys for use of the restrooms, when the
designated key person does not get there to open them. Councilman Metze
inquired whether the lighting situation has been taken care of. Mr. Sapp
confirmed. Mayor Pro Tem Kelley inquired whether there were any big
tournaments coming up. Mr. Sapp indicated he was not aware of any at this
time.
Mayor Pape noted the replacement for page 39. Mayor Pro Tem Kelley
questioned the increase in employee cost. City Manager Watenpaugh
indicated that the figure presented includes benefits.
Councilman Metze noted that LEAF provides great service to the community,
and indicated that it would be nice if the City could manage to fund more.
Mayor Pape noted the reserve balance by next year as detailed on page 43.
City Manager Watenpaugh clarified the figures for the end of this fiscal year
and the 1999 fiscal year. He noted that the need for services outweighs the
actual services at this time. Councilman Metze further questioned the figures.
Administrative Services Director Boone further clarified the reserves. City
Manager Watenpaugh reminded the Council of the $1.1 million payment due
in the year 2000.
City Manager Watenpaugh noted the goals and objectives for current fiscal
year on page 44; and indicated that staff will return with new goals and
objectives for next fiscal year. Councilman Metze commended the
presentation of the goals and accomplishments. Mayor Pro Tem Kelley noted
the success of the efforts to correct the RDA deficit. Councilman Metze
noted that the City Attorney has already become familiar with existing
contracts and is working to correct problems as they come up. Mayor Pape
noted that the most exciting information on page 44 is the deficit reduction for
the RDA; and suggested with the continuance of the current revenue trend in
the next year it should balance out. Councilwoman Brinley thanked the RDA
Board for the diligent efforts to solve the problems in the RDA. Councilman
Metze pointed out that the numbers do not reflect the sales tax revenue
increases generated by RDA projects, such as the car dealerships. He
stressed that the RDA does generate sales tax. Mayor Pape inquired, with the
projects coming on line next year, whether the account would be balanced out
the next year. Mr. Boone indicated that he sees the RDA increment, as ready
to jump. Councilman Metze noted that there is a lot of new construction in
the RDA areas. Mr. Boone confirmed and noted that the number will be
known for sure in August, and he will bring information to the Council.
Councilwoman Brinley stressed the potential for positive changes to the RDA
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in the coming year, noting that it is beginning to see the light at the end of the
tunnel. Mr. Boone noted that the RDA had lost of $' /z million in tax
increment, but expressed belief that it would come back. Mayor Pape
suggested that it might be appropriate to do a mid -year budget review.
Councilman Metze questioned whether increases in property tax and State
transfers would impact the RDA, and stressed that he would not want to see
the RDA take the hits. Administrative Services Director Boone indicated
that the RDA did in the past, have to fund $1 million to the State. City
Manager Watenpaugh indicated that the budget might need to be reviewed
earlier than mid -year, as Mr. Gunn is nearing completion on some of the
funds. He noted that it will be necessary to look at the RDA rather than the
bond pools. Councilwoman Brinley noted that the RDA inherited a big
problem and is working through it.
Mayor Pro Tem Kelley questioned page 45 with regard to the management
plan for the watershed and questioned the status. City Manager Watenpaugh
indicated that direction has not yet been given to proceed. Mayor Pro Tem
Kelley questioned the campground. City Manager Watenpaugh noted
restructuring the bond debt using the lake as a funding mechanism to pay off
bonds. He clarified the limitations and noted that the City could either pay a
flat rate or run the campground itself. Mayor Pro Tem Kelley questioned the
lake concession issue for the slalom course. City Manager Watenpaugh
indicated that proposals were requested and two were received; Ms. Nanette
indicated that it was not economically feasible, but Mr. Sacks is looking at a
program to provide a slalom course. Councilman Metze expressed concern
for shared use of the channel. Mr. Watenpaugh indicated that sharing the
channel is not a problem, but they must provide insurance to cover the City.
He explained that as concessionaire, Mr. Sacks would cover the City for any
liability on the slalom.
Mayor Pro Tem Kelley questioned efforts to get food concessions for the
Lake. Mr. Watenpaugh indicated that nothing is in place yet. Mayor Pro
Tem Kelley questioned the timing for opening of the levee for pedestrian
access. Mr. Watenpaugh indicated that staff is in the process of purchasing
signs and looking at grants to fund improvements. He indicated that signs
are needed every 300 feet to prevent trespassing on private property. Mrs.
Kelley questioned compliance with the new laws for dust control. Mr.
Watenpaugh indicated that the Water District would be responsible for dust
as they would be using vehicles to make access to the wells. He suggested
that if a grant is obtained, staff might look at using Magnesium Chloride to
bind the dust. Mayor Pro Tem Kelley inquired whether EVMWD would
contribute to this effort. Mr. Watenpaugh indicated that they have no interest
in doing so.
City Manager Watenpaugh noted the Economic Strategy, previously adopted
by the Council and noted the support and assistance provided by the Chamber
of Commerce in this area. He noted that the City of Chino and others are
looking to develop a similar program. Councilman Metze noted that this
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effort is directly responsible for contacts by Murrieta and Temecula. Mr.
Regis noted that the success is due to the tremendous cooperation between
the City, the Chamber of Commerce and the business community.
Mayor Pro Tem Kelley questioned the "park ranger program". City
Manager Watenpaugh noted that there was a desire to move forward on this
program, but the budget was eliminated so it was difficult to proceed.
Councilwoman Brinley suggested finther review of this program. Mr.
Watenpaugh concurred and noted that it is generally good for graffiti
prevention, etc.
Mayor Pape questioned the "note" for which the RDA is responsible. Mr.
Boone confirmed that this was a one time payment, and expressed hopes that
the bonds could be redone prior to this note coming due. Councilwoman
Brinley indicated that she believes it should be done in time. Mayor Pro Tem
Kelley questioned page 52 regarding the Outlet Center infrastructure payment
of $107,000; and questioned how much the Outlet Center generates for the
City coffers. Mr. Boone indicated that it generates about $800,000 per year
in sales tax and $250,000 per year in property tax.. Mayor Pro Tem Kelley
questioned if the expansion was still planned. Mr. Watenpaugh indicated that
the expansion was shelved for assessment of the situation by the new owners.
Mayor Pape questioned page 54 regarding lawsuit settlements, and whether
any excesses would be used for future debts of the RDA or to reduce the
City's contribution. Mr. Boone indicated that it would depend on the figures
which are received in August and any possible offsets.
City Manager Watenpaugh clarified the LLMD and Lake Park and
Recreation Fund budgets. He noted that $200,000 was included for the
campground. He clarified that with the LLMD, the account is a push, in that
what comes in, goes out; but noted the potential for an increase in that fund
with new residential units. Councilman Metze stressed that there would be
no increase to existing homes..
Mayor Pape noted the reference to Mission Trail on page 68. Mr.
Watenpaugh advised that Mission Trail is currently out to bid and should be
awarded the first meeting in July, with work beginning about the end of July.
Mayor Pape questioned the timing for Spring Street. Mr. Watenpaugh
indicated that it would probably begin in September. He noted that the City
Engineer has spent a lot of time in court, so an additional engineer is being
recruited to facilitate projects such as this. Mayor Pape questioned the
potential for packaging multiple projects to obtain better prices. City
Engineer O'Donnell confirmed that lower unit prices could be obtained, but
because of separate funding sources there could be a problem with packaging
them. He noted the potential for use of FEMA funds to improve Spring
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Street, and stressed the limitations of federal requirements and regulations.
Mayor Pape questioned the start date for Spring Street. Mr. O'Donnell
indicated that realistically is would be about October 1st, but noted the
potential problems of the rainy season. City Manager Watenpaugh
suggested that an updated schedule of projects be provided with the final
budget approval. Mayor Pape stressed the importance of keeping the public
advised of pending projects so they can avoid construction areas and keep
advised that the problem areas will be corrected. Councilwoman Brinley
inquired whether utilities would be advised of upcoming street projects so
they can complete any of their projects prior to the improvements by the City.
She indicated that she was tired of the City putting out good money for a job
and the utilities coming through and damaging it. Mayor Pape questioned the
status of ordinance revisions in this area. Mr. Watenpaugh noted that some
problems were encountered in L.A. which are being reviewed, and noted that
they are currently in court, but no decision has been made. Mayor Pape
questioned whether it would be better to require curb to curb improvements.
Mr. Watenpaugh stressed the requirement for establishment of a nexus for
such requirements. Councilman Metze stressed his concern that within a
couple of years the streets are a mess again.
Mayor Pape questioned the timing for Chaney Street improvements. Mr.
Watenpaugh indicated that work is underway on the design now, and right -of-
way review is proceeding.
Mayor Pro Tem. Kelley questioned the Mission Trail status with the County.
Mr. Watenpaugh indicated that discussions for agreements are underway and
staff is currently looking at design and right -of -way.
Councilwoman Brinley questioned the Casino Drive Bridge and whether it
impacts the proposed new car agency. Mr. O'Donnell indicated that the
bridge might be down to one lane in each direction, but should not impact the
dealership.
Mayor Pape questioned the status of the Dexter Avenue traffic signal. City
Engineer O'Donnell indicated that Caltrans approval is nearly complete to
allow the design to move forward; but it is now necessary to work with
Burger King to place the improvements concurrently. Mayor Pro Tem Kelley
inquired if the Burger King project was moving forward. Mr. O'Donnell
indicated that he was trying to set up a meeting with them to focus on how
quickly the work can be done. Mayor Pape inquired if there was in fact a
lack of water for construction. Mr. Watenpaugh clarified that they just need
to pay for a booster pump to get the project going. Mayor Pro Tem. Kelley
stressed the danger of that intersection. Mr. Watenpaugh stressed that the
City has limited control of the project, as Caltrans is the lead agency. Mr.
O'Donnell indicated that staff is nearing agreement on the project, but noted
if the signal was installed today, it would need to be moved. Mayor
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Pape requested a memo updating the status.
Mayor Pro Tem Kelley questioned the plans for a four way stop at Collier /74.
Mr. O'Donnell indicated that there are presently no plans. Mr. Watenpaugh
noted that the new property owners are looking to move forward based on
new demographics and traffic counts. Council discussion ensued with regard
to traffic concerns at this location. Mr. Watenpaugh stressed the need for
new demographics to proceed with development at that location.
City Manager Watenpaugh noted the Measure A fund information on pages
69 and 70. Mayor Pape questioned the status of traffic signal planning for
the intersection of Riverside Drive/Lincoln Street. Mr. O'Donnell indicated
that he was not sure of the status, but there was a question about the entrance
to the Campground, which varies the level of payment the City would be
obligated for. Mayor Pape noted that this signal would be a huge benefit to
that area.
Mayor Pape noted the additional pages regarding the graffiti program and the
Community Center. He inquired whether the roof was leaking at the
Community Center. Staff confirmed that moisture was causing damage to the
flooring and walls. Mayor Pape inquired if there was potential that additional
damage would occur if the roof was not repaired this year. Staff concurred
that this would be helpful in preventing further damage. Mayor Pro Tem
Kelley noted that the air conditioning units are non - existent. Public Works
Manager Payne indicated that if the roof are repaired the air conditioning
units should be replaced at the same time. Community Services Director
Sapp noted that part of the leakage problem is the way the air conditioning
units are situated on the roof. Mr. Watenpaugh suggested removing the air
conditioning units and replacing the roof to prevent further damage.
Councilman Metze noted preliminary discussions with the Sheriff's
Department and inquired if repairs to the Community Center would impact
those plans. He expressed concern with spending the money and finding out
that the Sheriffs Department is ready to proceed with their project. There
was general Council discussion and consensus that the roof should be
replaced to prevent further damage, and air conditioning replaced if adequate
funds are available. .
City Manager Watenpaugh noted the Main Street Program summary page and
indicated that it was incorporated as part of the proposed budget. He noted
that staff would be providing information on ongoing maintenance costs,
aside from the slurry sealing which would be coming out of the annual
program. Council questioned the tree lights and the estimated costs. Mr.
Watenpaugh clarified the costs. Councilwoman Brinley noted the aesthetics
of the lights and the enjoyment by people on Main Street; suggesting that the
City work with local businesses on a fundraising effort with matching funds.
There was general discussion of potential funding sources for the tree lights.
Mayor Pape stressed the need to keep the investment in good repair.
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Councilwoman Brinley noted the importance of replacing the parts of the
package which were originally included. Mayor Pape stressed that this is
work which has not been done for years. There was fir ther discussion of
light replacement and funding sources.
City Manager Watenpaugh noted the Campground budget and recommended
an allocation of $200,000 and noted that volunteer groups are willing to assist
with the park cleanup. Councilman Metze inquired what that allocation of
funds would buy. Community Services Director Sapp indicated that it would
restore 151 camp sites and two group areas. Mayor Pape questioned the
requested $300,000 budget vs. the recommended $200,000 budget and what
would be cut. City Manager Watenpaugh noted that the original request also
considers requested CDBG funds. There was general Council discussion of
the costs and advantages of opening the campground. Councilwoman Brinley
inquired whether the pumping station was working and what repairs would
cost. Mr. Sapp indicated that it has been repaired, permitted and approved.
Councilman Metze indicated that an ADA bar- be -que is absolutely ridiculous,
and expressed frustration with people who use handicapped placards and
don't need them. Mayor Pape questioned the money for cleanup and the
impact of volunteers on that cost. City Manager Watenpaugh indicated that
volunteers will not significantly reduce the cost of the cleanup but will help.
Mayor Pape inquired when the campground could be open to the public.
Staff indicated that with the approval of the budget they would try for the
Labor Day weekend. Mayor Pro Tern Kelley questioned the tree trimming
work and whether it was for interior or exterior trees. City Manager
Watenpaugh indicated that it would include interior and exterior trees.
Mayor Pape noted that the budget should be formally adopted at the second
meeting in June, and suggested that staff gear up for the work to begin upon
approval, so it could be open by the long weekend. He also suggested that
the volunteer groups start work in the meantime. Community Services
Director Sapp indicated that he would be meeting with the scout troops next
week. Councilman Metze indicated that he would see more interest in the
campground than the Community Center. There was Council discussion of
the funds which could be generated and general concurrence was reached that
the campground should take priority over the Community Center.
Mayor Pape noted a request to speak from Chris Hyland. Mrs. Hyland was
not present for comment.
Councilman Metze commended staff on the budget preparation and indicated
they had done a good job of addressing the concerns and giving the most
services possible. Councilwoman Brinley thanked the City Manager for his
efforts to meet with the Council individually and include their requests for
capital projects.
City Manager Molendyk noted that the WRCOG membership of $3,400 is
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anticipated to be increased by 20 %. Council questioned the value of this
membership.
MOVED BY BRINLEY, SECONDED BY METZE AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT A"1:26 P.M.
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CALL TO ORDER
The Regular City Council Meeting was called to order by Mayor Pape at 7:04 p.m.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Councilman Alongi.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: ALONGI, BRINLEY,
KELLEY, METZE, PAPE
ABSENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: NONE
Also present were: City Manager Watenpaugh, City Attorney Leibold,
Administrative Services Director Boone, Community Development Director
Brady, Community Services Director Sapp, Fire Chief Seabert, Police Chief
Walsh, City Engineer O'Donnell and City Clerk Kasad.
PUBLIC COMMENTS - NON - AGENDIZED ITEMS
None Requested
PRESENTATIONS
a. Presentations - Korn Memorial Scholarship. (F:56.2)
Mayor Pape called forward the Korn Memorial Scholarship recipients for
presentation of Certificates being:
Eric Hurtado, Elsinore High School, pursuing a Career in Dentistry at
La Sierra University.
Tricia Nash, Temescal Canyon High School, pursuing a Career in
Dentistry at Brigham Young University in Utah.
Nicole Wilson, Elsinore High School, attending Pepperdine
University, for a major in Biology and later attending Medical
School.
Mary Gray, Temescal Canyon High School, pursing a Career as a
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Neurosurgeon at University of California at San Diego.
Mayor Pape commended them on their high aspirations and wished them all
well in their endeavors.
b. Proclamation - Sheriff's Department. (F:127.2)
Mayor Pape read and presented the Proclamation to Chief Bill Walsh on
behalf of the entire Police Department, noting the crime reductions over the
last three years. Chief Walsh accepted the Proclamation and commended
the efforts of his officers. He also thanked the citizens of Lake Elsinore for
the efforts and involvement in community policing, stressing the impact of
this assistance on the crime statistics. He also thanked the Mayor and City
Council for their continued support and funding. Mayor Pape requested
that Chief Walsh convey the thanks of the entire City Council to the
officers.
Presentation - Officer Ted Hoffman. (F:127.2)
Mayor Pape noted a recent incident involving the beating of a resident. He
explained that Officer Hoffman heard the broadcast over the police radio,
spotted the offending vehicle, pulled them over and made the arrest of the
three suspects. Mayor Pape read and presented the Award of Merit, for
assisting in the apprehension of the suspects in a home invasion robbery.
Officer Hoffman indicated that he was just in the right place at the right
time, and stressed the importance of the good information being provided
by the station.
CONSENT CALENDAR
The following items were pulled from the Consent Calendar for further discussion
and consideration:
Item Nos. 6, 7 and 8.
MOVED BY BRINLEY, SECONDED BY KELLEY AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO APPROVE THE BALANCE OF THE CONSENT
CALENDAR AS PRESENTED.
Received and ordered filed the following Minutes:
a. Planning Commission Meeting - May 6, 1998. (F:60.3)
b. Design Review Committee Meeting - May 6, 1998. (F:60.4)
2. Ratified Warrant List for May 28, 1998. (F:12.3)
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Received and ordered filed the Investment Report for April, 1998. (F:12.5)
4. Rejected and referred to Claims Administrator the Claims submitted by
Kathi Knapp Clough (CL #98 -15) and Manson Williams (CL #98 -16).
(F:52.2)
Adopted Resolution Nos. 98 -11, 98 -12 and 98 -13, setting the Public
Hearing for the City Wide Lighting and Landscaping Maintenance District,
Fiscal Year 1998 -99. (F:22.2)
RESOLUTION NO. 98 -11
A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL ORDERING THE
PREPARATION OF PLANS, SPECIFICATIONS, COST ESTIMATE,
DIAGRAM, ASSESSMENT AND REPORT PURSUANT TO THE
PROVISIONS OF DIVISION 15, PART 2 OF THE STREETS AND
HIGHWAYS CODE OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA, FOR
PROCEEDINGS FOR THE ANNUAL ASSESSMENT LEVY AFTER
FORMATION OF A DISTRICT.
RESOLUTION NO. 98 -12
A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVING THE
ENGINEER'S "REPORT" FOR THE ANNUAL LEVY OF
ASSESSMENTS FOR FISCAL YEAR 1998 -99 IN A DISTRICT
WITHIN SAID CITY.
RESOLUTION NO. 98-13
A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL DECLARING ITS
INTENTION TO PROVIDE FOR AN ANNUAL LEVY AND
COLLECTION OF ASSESSMENTS FOR CERTAIN
MAINTENANCE IN AN EXISTING DISTRICT, PURSUANT TO
THE PROVISIONS OF SECTION 15, PART 2 OF THE STREETS
AND HIGHWAYS CODE OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA, AND
SETTING A TIME AND PLACE FOR THE PUBLIC MEETING AND
PUBLIC HEARING THEREON.
PUBLIC HEARING
21. Public Hearing - CFD 98 -1 Summerhill Improvements (Overlay District
CFD 91-2). (17:22.3)
City Manager Watenpaugh requested that this Public Hearing be continued
to the next regular City Council Meeting on June 23, 1998.
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MOVED BY BRINLEY, SECONDED BY KELLEY AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO CONTINUE THIS ITEM TO JUNE 23,1998.
31. Second Reading Ordinance No. 1037 - Lake Regulations. (F:92.1)
MOVED BY METZE, SECONDED BY ALONGI TO ADOPT ORDINANCE
NO. 1037, UPON SECOND READING BY TITLE ONLY.
ORDINANCE NO. 1037
AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA, ADDING SECTIONS 9.96.220
AND 9.96.230 OF THE LAKE ELSINORE MUNICIPAL CODE
REGARDING LAKE REGULATIONS.
UPON THE FOLLOWING ROLL CALL VOTE:
AYES: COUNCILMEMBERS:ALONGI, BRINLEY, KELLEY,
METZE, PAPE
NOES: COUNCILMEMBERS:NONE
ABSENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: NONE
ABSTAIN: COUNCILMEMBERS:NONE
32. Formation of a Cultural Arts Commission. (F:59.1)
City Manager Watenpaugh noted the comments at the last City Council
meeting for establishment of a Cultural Arts Commission. He explained
the intent for the Commission to serve as a liaison to cultural organizations
and events. He noted that a letter has been drafted for transmittal to local
business people, and advertisement in the local newspaper requesting
participation in a meeting to discuss Commission formation.
Mayor Pro Tem Kelley noted a letter received from the Artists Society and
an interest in promoting the arts in Lake Elsinore. She indicated that she
has met with the Riverside Arts Foundation and they would assist in getting
a Commission started and serve as resources in the future. She suggested
starting with a survey of businesses and community leaders to gain support
of this concept, and when support is gained go to the artists themselves.
She indicated that the intent would be to include both visual and performing
arts. She stressed the number of professional artists in the Community. She
indicated that she would like to see the effort start small with no dollars
allocated to start. She requested Council support of the concept to allow
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staff to support the effort for one meeting a month.
Councilwoman Brinley concurred that there is a lot of talent in the
Community and encouraged participation. Mayor Pape noted an interest in
Concerts in the Park. Mayor Pro Tem Kelley concurred that would bean
idea to start with and she would like to do something in the winter season
with more to be added next year. Councilwoman Brinley noted a tape
received from an artist in a concert band who would be interested in
participating. Mayor Pro Tem Kelley indicated that she has received
several tapes and photos. Councilman Alongi suggested that the use of the
Cultural Center be authorized for this group, without charge. Councilman
Metze concurred.
MOVED BY BRINLEY, SECONDED BY KELLEY AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO AUTHORIZE STAFF TO PROCEED WITH
FORMATION OF A CULTURAL ARTS COMMISSION.
6. Addition of Hazard Elimination Safety (HES) Project to Capital
Improvement List. (F:162.1)(X:30.1)
City Manager Watenpaugh thanked the Council for pulling this item for
discussion. He noted that the intent would be to provide additional lighting
on Casino Drive near Franklin Street. Councilman Alongi indicated that he
pulled this item because, although he understands it is a grant, there is very
little traffic at that location. He suggested that Lakeshore Drive and
Strickland /Gunnerson need lighting more; and stressed the need to look at
higher traffic areas. He indicated that he doesn't disagree with getting
state and federal money, but this is a dead end intersection with no traffic.
He further indicated that even the residents of the USA Properties project
don't use that intersection.
Councilwoman Brinley questioned the ability to use the funds elsewhere.
City Manager Watenpaugh indicated that we would need to move forward
on this site to use these funds, as the grant is site specific. Councilwoman
Brinley suggested that staff keep writing grant applications.
MOVED BY BRINLEY, SECONDED BY KELLEY AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO ADD THE "HES" PROJECT AT THE
INTERSECTION OF CASINO DRIVE AND FRANKLIN STREET TO THE
CITY'S CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS 1997/98 LIST.
7. County Service Area (CSA) 152 Assessment for the NPDES Storm Water
Pollution Prevention Program. (F:22.3)
City Manager Watenpaugh highlighted this item, which is assessed for storm
water pollution prevention, has not increased but has stayed in place.
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He explained that it provides for cleaning and maintenance of catch basins
and channels within the designated area.
Councilman Alongi indicated that he pulled this item, because although the
taxes collected are only $6.62, taxes are collected for a variety of things, but
he felt this should be paid for by the taxes already collected in the
community.
MOVED BY BRINLEY, SECONDED BY METZE AND CARRIED BY A
VOTE OF 4 TO 1 WITH ALONGI CASTING THE DISSENTING VOTE
TO ADOPT RESOLUTION NO. 98-14 ESTABLISHING THE "NPDES"
BUDGET AND SETTING THE ASSESSMENT.
RESOLUTION NO. 98-14
A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF LAKE
ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA, SETTING THE RATES FOR COUNTY
SERVICE AREA 152 - LAKE ELSINORE TO FUND CITY'S
NATIONAL POLLUTANT DISCHARGE ELIMINATION SYSTEM
(NPDES) PERMIT PROGRAM.
8. Investment Policy - Annual Review. (F: 120.1)(X:12.1)
City Manager Watenpaugh noted that a policy was previously adopted
following the financial problems in Orange County; and detailed the
proposed changes to that policy, in most cases relating to the shift of
responsibilities from the City Treasurer to the City Manager.
Councilman Alongi indicated that he pulled this item because of what he
read and noted that the residents elect the City Treasurer. He further noted
that in the next election, anyone who runs for City Treasurer must have a
financial background. He further indicated that a City Treasurer must be
elected and that he did not think it was good policy to remove the duty from
an elected official, as he should have the ability to review and analyze
financial matters. He suggested that this action would be jumping the gun,
as a great deal of legislative change is occurring with regard to the elected
City Treasurer position. He indicated the he did not see the purpose of
transferring responsibility to the City Manager.
City Attorney Leibold clarified that it is not mandatory that the City
Treasurer be an elected official, but it is at the discretion of the voters.
Councilman Alongi reiterated that the Treasurer must be elected and
suggested that it would be inappropriate to take duties away from the City
Treasurer. City Attorney Leibold reiterated that there is no requirement
that the City Treasurer be elected. Councilwoman Brinley noted that the
present discussion is not about elections, but rather about investment policy.
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Mayor Pape suggested that this is almost a moot point anyway, because the
investment fund is managed by the Local Agency Investment Fund (LAIF).
MOVED BY BRINLEY, SECONDED BY METZE AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO APPROVE THE ANNUAL REVIEW AND
RECOMMENDED CHANGES TO THE INVESTMENT POLICY.
THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING WAS RECESSED AT 7:22 P.M.
THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING RECONVENED AT 7:25 P.M.
PUBLIC COMMENTS - NON - AGENDIZED ITEMS
Gary Grant, 27068 Jarvis Avenue, Perris, read a letter from owners of property
requesting detachment from the North Peak area that was presented to Council in
June of 1997. He noted a statement made at LAFCO by a Councilmember that the
City respects personal property rights and would not want anyone to annex that
does not want to come into the City. He respectfully requested that Council
consider the request from the property owners that the property be detached from
North Peak.
Chris Hyland, 15191 Wavecrest, stated that she knows that there are only two or
three people who get up and speak, however the reason more people do not speak
is because they are either demeaned, degraded or humiliated. She read the First
Amendment to the Council to remind them that she has a right to speak even if it
appears to be negative. She commented on the City Campgrounds discussed at the
Budget Study Session last Wednesday and noted that the City must own and
operate the Campgrounds since they used it as collateral for the Bonds. She asked
if that was the reason that the City got rid of Jess Watkins who was the
concessionaire at the Park because the City could not have used the Campgrounds
and Lake as collateral unless Mr. Watkins was gone. She further commented on
the condition of the Campground and asked where the City is going to get the
money to put the Campground back in shape when the City can't even maintain
the City Parks. She cautioned that Council must consider the conditions of the
roads as well as the Community Center and Campgrounds.
CITY MANAGER COMMENTS
Read a letter from the State Compensation Fund commending Public Works
for their outstanding safety report. He noted that staff received an award for
having no accidents on the job and that reflects proper training and caution.
2. Stated that the City can enter into, a concession agreement at the City
Campground. He noted that the problem with a concession agreement is
that the City cannot enter into a profit- sharing concession agreement. He
suggested that the City should have a contract person to run the park so that
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the City can retain control.
He noted that the debt incurred on the Lake had nothing to do with the
previous concessionaire. He noted that the problem was after five years, the
previous concessionaire was unwilling to comply with Federal Mandates,
State Regulations and unwilling to bring the facility up to State Code.
CITY ATTORNEY COMMENTS
No comments.
CITY COUNCIL COMMENTS
Mayor Pro Tern Kelley commented on the following:
Thanked Pro Fiberglass for the use of their Mini Grand Prix car. She noted
that last Saturday Council had a lot of fun competing in the Mini Grand
Prix. She congratulated the Police Department for their award for Best
Outfits and coming in second in the race. She thanked Right -Way for the
use of their helmets.
2. Congratulated the recipients of the Korn Scholarships.
3. Invited the public to attend an open house at Temescal Canyon High
School, Friday, June 12, 1998, at 5:00 p.m. to 7:00 p.m. to see the sets from
Grad night.
Councilwoman Brinley commented on the following:
Thanked the Chamber for the Grand Prix and Tony Ortega for the use of the
Grand Prix car.
2. Congratulated the graduating classes at Temescal and Lake Elsinore High
Schools. She wished them good luck in the future.
3. Commended the Chamber for the Street Faire and noted that it is getting
bigger and better each month. She encouraged the citizens and all their
family and friends to attend the first Sunday of each month.
Councilman Alongi commented on the following:
Commented that he had great fun with the car at the Grand Prix. He stated
he feels this is the greatest event that Lake Elsinore has. He noted with
humor, that the Sheriff s with their red uniforms and police on the side of
their car took advantage of everyone, however it was great to have them
chase him.
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2. He thanked all the police and fire officers for their hard work in the
community and especially thanked Officer Hoffman for his efforts.
3. Announced that on the 3rd Saturday of the Month 8:00 a.m. to 12:00 p.m.,
Hope will be distributing U.S.D.A. commodities. He noted the location is
2985 2nd Street, Rear Unit R. He stated that the people must have a phono
I.D. and current proof of address to qualify.
4. Addressed the flier that was distributed about the race track. He stated that
the flier was distributed by Mr. Murdock and he is not negative about the
community and has invested approximately $1.2 million creating a master
plan for homes which will be located near the proposed race track. He
cautioned that people should be very careful of who they accuse.
Noted an article in the Reader's Digest regarding San Juan Bautista where
the entire staff of their City Hall was laid off and the city was staffed by
volunteers. He noted that within a few years they caught up with their bills
and were able to hire people back. He noted that it is not necessary to have
bureaucrats because the people can do it themselves. He noted that the
citizens are capable of doing the job in a volunteer basis because of their
experience and background.
Commented on the Memo from Phyllis Rogers, former Assistant City
Manager stating that Mr. Molendyk was exempt from standard personnel
rules and stated that there is nothing on record that authorized him to
accumulate vacation and sick leave. He noted that it never came before City
Council for approval.
7. Stated that the Mayor does not know the difference between an accusation
and an indictment; a criminal and civil matter. He noted that they are
handled quite differently. He explained that there are procedures that he can
use if it is a criminal matter and procedures for a civil matter, however they
are not the same. He stated that he is not sorry that he is going through this
and he is willing to put up his money and fight for what he believes in as
long as it doesn't interfere with the health and welfare of other people. He
noted that it is his right as a citizen. He stated that it is nobody's business
but his own.
He stated that because the Mayor called upon him to lead the Pledge of
Allegiance and as a gift to the Mayor for that honor, he will set aside what
he was going to say. He asked that the Mayor allow him to handle his own
business and for Council to stay out of it. He stated that if the Mayor and
Council will comply he will not comment about the Mayor or Councilman
Metze. He stressed that in 1999, he is going to run for reelection.
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Councilman Metze commented on the following:
1. Concurred with City Manager Watenpaugh that the staff deserves a lot of
credit for their dedication to the City and commended Public Works.
2. Complimented the Chamber of Commerce and the Downtown Business
people for a wonderful weekend. He noted that there was a great turn -out.
3. Commended Denise Alexander for her column in the Sun Tribune. He
stated that she is positive about the community and he appreciates that.
Mayor Pape commented on the following:
1. Thanked Tony and Cindy Ortega of Pro Fiberglass for the use of the car so
that the Council could participate in the Mini Grand Prix.
2. Explained that the Council is trying to allocate funds to open the City
Campground. He noted that it is a mess and was left a mess from the
previous operator and needs a lot of work to bring it up to standards. He
noted that it is anticipated that it will be open by Labor Day.
3. He stated that it is hoped that we will have funds to open the Community
Center this summer as well.
4. Announced a new business is opening in town. He noted that it is located
across from Elsinore Middle School and will open on Friday.
5. Stated that North Peak will be breaking ground in January and noted that
from the plans that they have, it should be a nice addition to the City.
6. Stated that the City has been working with Ramsgate and they have signed
an agreement with the Riverside Transit Transportation Commission to
front $1.4 million to design and do the engineering for Highway 74 from I-
15 to Perris. He noted that it will take approximately 18 months to do the
design and engineering work and then in approximately 24 months they will
start widening Highway 74 in it's first phase from I -15 to Wasson Canyon
and will be a four lane highway. He noted that this will start to correct
some of the problems that have been experienced on that roadway.
CLOSED SESSION
a. CONFERENCE WITH LEGAL COUNSEL - ANTICIPATED
LITIGATION (Initiation of litigation pursuant to subdivision (b) of Section
54856.9 (1 case).
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b. CONFERENCE WITH LEGAL COUNSEL - EXISTING LITIGATION
(Subdivision (a) of Section 54956.9):
City of Lake Elsinore vs. All Persons Interested (LAFCO) - Case
#311942.
City Attorney Leibold announced the above listed items for Closed Session
discussion:
THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING WAS ADJOURNED TO CLOSED
SESSION AT 7:55 P.M. FOR DISCUSSION OF THE ABOVE LISTED
ITEMS.
THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING RECONVENED AT 8:30 P.M. WITH
THE FOLLOWING ANNOUNCEMENTS:
WITH REGARD TO ITEM "a ", THE CITY COUNCIL GAVE
DIRECTION TO THE CITY ATTORNEY TO TAKE
ADMINISTRATIVE ACTION IN CONNECTION WITH
ANTICIPATED LITIGATION.
WITH REGARD TO ITEM "b" THE CITY ATTORNEY PROVIDED
A STATUS REPORT TO THE CITY COUNCIL. NO ACTION
TAKEN.
ADJOURNMENT
MOVED BY METZE, SECONDED BY BRINLEY AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO ADJOURN THE REGULAR CITY COUNCIL
MEETING AT 8:31 P.M.
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The Regular City Council Meeting was called to order by Mayor Pape at 7:04 p.m.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
The Pledge of Allegiance was led by City Manager Watenpaugh.
INVOCATION
None.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: COUNCILMEMBERS:
ABSENT: COUNCILMEMBERS
ALONGI, BRINLEY,
KELLEY,PAPE
METZE (Councilman Metze
Arrived at 7:17 p.m.)
Also present were: City Manager Watenpaugh, City Attorney Leibold,
Administrative Services Director Boone, Community Development Director
Brady, Community Services Director Sapp, Fire Chief Seabert, Police chief
Walsh Senior Planner Villa, Assistant to the City Manager Best, City
Engineer O'Donnell, and City Clerk Kasad.
PRESENTATIONS
a. Proclamation - Park & Recreation Month. (F:122.1)
Mayor Pape read and presented the Proclamation to Assistant to the City
Manager Best on behalf of Community Services Director Sapp.
PUBLIC COMMENTS - AGENDIZED ITEMS
Requests were received to address the following items:
Item Nos. 3, 4, 5, 21, 22 and 23.
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CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS
The following items were pulled from the Consent Calendar for further discussion
and consideration:
Item Nos. 3, 4, 5, 7, 8 and 9.
MOVED BY BRINLEY, SECONDED BY KELLEY AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO APPROVE THE BALANCE OF THE CONSENT
CALENDAR AS PRESENTED.
1. The following Minutes were approved:
a. Regular City Council Meeting - May 26, 1998. (17:44.4)
b. Adjourned City Council Meeting - June 3, 1998.
C. City Council Study Session - June 5, 1998.
The following Minutes were received and ordered filed:
d. Planning Commission Meeting - May 6, 1998. (17:60.3)
e. Design Review Committee Meeting - May 6, 1998. (17:60.4)
f. Public Scoping Meeting - June 8, 1998. (F:151.1)
2. Ratified Warrant List for June 15, 1998. (F: 12.3)
6. Accepted Notice of Completion for McVicker Canyon Debris Basin and
Line `B -1" Channel (Stage 4) - Greg Harris Construction; and authorized
staff to record the Notice. (17:22.3)
10. Approved Public Hearing date of July 28, 1998, for the following:
a. Collection of delinquent refuse service fees of customers with unpaid
balances to be collected on the annual property tax roll. (17:163.1)
PUBLIC HEARING
21. Community Facilities District 98 -1 - Summerhill Improvements
(Overlay District CFD 91 -2) - Resolution Nos. 98 -15 and 98 -16. (F:22.3)
City Manager Watenpaugh noted the efforts to develop a financial work out
plan and the relationship of those efforts to this item.
Don Hunt, Bond Counsel, highlighted this item and noted that all of the
land involved is held by Abaccy. He explained that the purpose of this
District is to cover a portion of the delinquent taxes not previously
collected, and that the primary beneficiary of the District will be the
PAGE THREE — CITY COUNCIL MINUTES — JUNE 239 1998
bondholders.
Mayor Pape opened the public hearing at 7:10 p.m., asking those persons
interested in this item to speak. The following person spoke:
Winifred Zieler, 31662 Willow View Place, resident of Summerhill, noted
the paperwork she received from Friedman Homes, and indicated that she
bought the house for cash and ended up with $60,000 in Mello -Roos fees.
She further noted that the covenants for Summerhill run with the land until
2014, with the potential for a 10 year automatic extension. She also noted
water related assessments and suggested that there is a lot of fraud and
dishonesty. She indicated that she does not have the original paperwork or
disclosures on the house, but does have copies of documents from Friedman
Homes. She further indicated that she will end up paying $180,000 for
the house, even though she paid cash. She expressed uncertainty as to
whether her deed is even valid.
Hearing no additional requests to speak, the public hearing was closed at
7:15 p.m.
Mayor Pape stressed that this item would have no impact on the current
homeowners. Mr. Hunt reiterated that this District does not include any of
the existing single - family homes. He also noted that with regard to
receiving documents, the lien for special taxes is recorded with the
Recorder's Office when the tax is levied and recorded on every included lot
as public record. He indicated that State law requires written disclosures
and the title policy will always have a reference with regard to the tax lien.
He further indicated that the City has done everything properly, but there
may be a cause of action against the seller if they did not comply with the
requirements. Mayor Pape noted that Mrs. Zieler has discussed this before,
and the previous City Attorney volunteered time to assist her. He
commented that his has been an ongoing problem for the Zieler Family, but
this action has no impact on the private property owners.
Councilman Alongi inquired whether Mr. Kipp has deposited the required
funds. Mr. Hunt indicated that he had not yet deposited, but this action is to
the benefit of the bondholders, not Mr. Kipp. He stressed that this is an
advantageous action for the bondholders and the City to have the bonds
paid off. Councilman Alongi inquired whether the Lake Elsinore
Management Authority would be the underwriter for these bonds. Mr.
Hunt indicated that the Public Finance Authority would underwrite the
bonds, and noted that there is sufficient value to support the issue. He
clarified that these bonds would be anticipated to be 2 or 3 years down the
road; as they will not be issued on raw land, only on occupied homes. He
indicated that this issuance is being put together differently from the others.
Councilman Alongi addressed Mrs. Zieler and indicated that when people
buy homes a lot of documents are overlooked due to lack of knowledge
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regarding CFD's, but most people who sell homes do not emphasize those
points either. He suggested that while the State law requires disclosures,
people need to stay aware and informed. He concurred that this was a very
confusing and costly situation, which could cause people to loose their
homes. He suggested that the developers need to have the funds up front to
provide necessary improvements. Councilwoman Brinley noted past
discussions of this concern and suggested that future buyers receive better
explanations and disclosures. She suggested requiring that the disclosures
be filed with the City to protect the residents and new homeowners. She
thanked Mr. Hunt for his time and efforts to protect the City's trustees.
Councilman Metze requested clarification of the time frame for this bond
issuance. Mr. Hunt indicated that it would be approximately three years, or
at the time the homes are built. Councilman Metze inquired whether the
matter would be back to Council before there is further action. Mr. Hunt
confirmed, noting that this action creates the District for later use, if bonds
are needed.
MOVED BY BRINLEY, SECONDED BY METZE AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO APPROVE THE BOND COUNSEL REPORT
AND ADOPT RESOLUTION NOS. 98 -15 AND 98 -16. METZE ARRIVED
AT 7:17 P.M.
RESOLUTION NO. 98 -15
A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF LAKE
ELSINORE, DETERMINING THE VALIDITY OF PRIOR
PROCEEDINGS, ESTABLISHING COMMUNITY FACILITIES
DISTRICT NO. 98 -19 AUTHORIZING THE LEVY OF A SPECIAL
TAX WITHIN COMMUNITY FACILITIES DISTRICT NO. 98-1,
AND ESTABLISHING AN APPROPRIATIONS LIMIT.
RESOLUTION NO. 98 -16
A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF LAKE
ELSINORE, ACTING ON BEHALF OF COMMUNITY FACILITIES
DISTRICT NO. 98 -1, CALLING A SPECIAL ELECTION.
22. 1998 -99 City Wide Annual Budget — Resolution No. 98 -17 and RDA
Resolution No. 98 -1. (F:30.1)
City Manager Watenpaugh noted that this item was heard at a Study Session
on June 5, 1998, and the changes presented are the items that have been
modified since the Study Session, as well as services added. He explained
that in the staff report he has listed, page by page, the changes that he
suggests for the Council's Budget. He recommended that the City retain
membership with the organizations the City is presently involved in due to
their contributions to the City and it's economic development. He gave
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overview of the items. listed in the staff report as follows:
Page 12 — City Council
The following general memberships have been included within the City
Council's budget.
WRCOG
WETIP
League of California Cities
CALED
IEEP
IETC
Total
Page 17 —City Manager
City Economic Development
Local EDC
Regional Economic Development
$4,000
1,530
4,500
400
7,000
250
$17,680 ($10,000 increase)
$15,000
5,000
5,000 added per Council request
Page 34 — Public Works Facilities Maintenance
- Transferred from Senior Center $6,500
Page 35 — Vehicle & Equipment Repair
Addition of three leased vehicles for Maintenance — full size 4X4 pickups.
Auction three Celebrity vehicles and three 5 -10 pickups.
Page 37 — Community Center
Addition of operating expenses for
reopening the Community Center $47,000
(Capital funds budgeted in Capital Budget from Park In -Lieu Fees).
Park -in -Lieu Capital Funds — Community
Center Renovation
$121,930 approved by Council
Page 39 — Senior Center
Transferred to Public Works Facility Maintenance $6,500 reduction
Added $20,000 from Park -in -Lieu Capital Funds for tree lighting in
Downtown Core Blocks (Main Street).
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Authorized additional staff, per page 1 summary of Budgets, plus additional
Maintenance Worker I for Campground.
City Manager Watenpaugh gave an overview of the Capital Projects Budget and
explained the proposed projects. City Manager Watenpaugh presented a Summary
of the Budget as follows:
General Fund $9,281,300
New: '/z time Code En£ ( =1 full time)
h time graffiti
1 full time Streets Maint.
1 full time Associate Engineer
Part-time — Community Center
Economic Development
Redevelopment Agency
$6,990,000
Lake Operations
$349,700
TMC 150,000
Campground 50,000
LLMD
CIP
$549,400
$1,157,000
$2,581,930
TOTAL CITY BUDGETS
$20,559,930
$8,836,900 +443,400
$ 24,000
20,000
34,000
68,000
47,000
20,000 2311000
$7,745,500 (775,500)
$516,200
200,000 (166,500)
$716,200
$1,157,000 -0-
$2,581,9301 -0-
Expense
$9,854,900 231,400
7,745,500 (755,500)
716,200 -0-
1 ,157,000
2,581,930
$22,055,530 (690,600)
Revenue
General Fund
$9,281,300
RDA
6,990,000
Lake Operations
& Campground
549,700
LLMD
1,1571000
CIP
2.581.930
$20,559,930
$8,836,900 +443,400
$ 24,000
20,000
34,000
68,000
47,000
20,000 2311000
$7,745,500 (775,500)
$516,200
200,000 (166,500)
$716,200
$1,157,000 -0-
$2,581,9301 -0-
Expense
$9,854,900 231,400
7,745,500 (755,500)
716,200 -0-
1 ,157,000
2,581,930
$22,055,530 (690,600)
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Reserve Fund
Projected Balance June 30 "' 1999 $1,416,400
Items reduced from Reserve Fund 1997/98
-Parks $211,000
- Spectrum Settlement
127,500
- Stadium
108,000
- Attorney's Fees 230,000
-Law Enforcement Contract 150,000
$826,500
Mayor Pape opened the public hearing at 7:37 p.m. and asked those persons
interested in speaking to do so.
Dale Hite, 155 N. Kellogg Street, commented on the improvement in the
budget, but indicated that he felt the Council should spend the money on
Public Safety and less on other things. He stated that Council has the
appropriate funding for a Fire Station and he feels that the City should
proceed. He asked that Council take the safety of the citizens into
consideration first.
Mayor Pape asked if anyone else wished to speak on the issue, hearing no
one, the public hearing was closed at 7:40 p.m.
Mayor Pro Tern Kelley asked what the revenue increase has been for this
year. City Manager Watenpaugh stated that the increase was a little over
$900,000. Mayor Pro Tern Kelley questioned the amount saved with the
lease of the Stadium. City Manager Watenpaugh stated that the City has
eliminated $500,000 in expenditures. Mayor Pro Tem Kelley noted that
there was a Study Session regarding the budget and the Council has gone
through the budget line by line. She further noted that the Capital Projects
are not from the General Funds, but rather from other funding sources. She
stated that she is delighted that because of strict budgeting, Council is able
to add the Community Center to this year's budget. She explained that
there are a lot of positive things in the budget and noted that the City is
bringing back the Graffiti Program, restoring partial use of the Campground
and bringing on another Code Enforcement Officer. She stated that there is
a light at the end of the tunnel and next year she hopes it will be even better.
Councilwoman Brinley concurred with Mayor Pro Tern Kelley and
expressed her pleasure with the additions that were made in the budget. She
noted that the Redevelopment Agency is getting back to the point where it
is possible to bring the Agency back into the black. She made note of the
Redevelopment Agency Main Street Project and the lights that were placed
in the trees to add to the atmosphere of the Downtown Area. She asked that
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Council consider allocation of $20,000 to replace the lights in the trees on
Main Street. She gave an overview of the available funds in the budget and
noted that she felt that this would enhance the area. She further noted that it
is much nicer to approach the budget this year by adding items to the
budget, instead of deleting items. She highlighted the funds that are in the
budget for Public Safety and indicated that she felt that there was
considerable consideration given to that area.
Councilman Alongi stated that there were more important things for RDA
money then putting lights back into the trees on Main Street. He stated that
he felt that the League of California Cities and WRCOG were important to
the City, however he felt that the money allocated for the other
organizations could better be spent for sidewalks. He noted that $20,000
was allocated for EDC, and he felt that this could be cut in half. He further
noted the request for three 4x4 pickups and explained that there is no need
for that type of vehicle in Lake Elsinore. He stressed his opposition to the
previously purchased 4x4 pickup and stated that the City did not need more
than one of that type of vehicle. He indicated that the funds could be better
spent elsewhere. He noted that it appears that the School District will start
charging children to ride the school buses and it is the City's obligation to
have better sidewalks leading to the schools, especially for the lower grades.
He stated his pleasure in reopening the Community Center, but felt that the
money from the Senior Center should be spent on sidewalks and the
$20,000 that Councilwoman Brinley suggested for lighting would be better
applied to sidewalks, as well as handicap ramps. He noted that there are a
lot of areas in the City without sidewalks such as Lakeshore Drive, and
Sumner Avenue to name a few. He explained that sidewalks should come
first and then the Council can look at the "gingerbread" later. Councilman
Alongi stated that he felt staff and City Manager Watenpaugh did a good
job with the budget, considering the handicap that they had to work with
caused from the Lake, _Stadium and other projects that drained City funds.
He noted that the Council should save every dollar they can and put it where
it can do the most good. He further noted problems with potholes, as well
as streets that have not been paved in 25 years or snore. He commented on
the funds that are spent on the Capital Improvement Projects and noted that
the streets in the older part of the City are ignored every time, and indicated
that therefore he would be voting against the page that lists Capital
Improvement Projects.
Councilman Metze thanked staff and the City Manager for listening to
Council and addressing the suggestions. He stressed that what is being
presented is not found money, rather it is due to an aggressive economic
plan. He noted that the businesspersons on Main Street are pleased with the
City and Chamber and the trend in the economy. He stated that he feels that
the tree lights are important to Main Street to add to the effect that is trying
to be maintained and would benefit the businesses, as well as protecting the
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investment in the Downtown area.
Mayor Pape noted the section of the budget that addresses Memberships to
Organizations and explained that although this shows an increase, these are
not new items. He explained that the City has always been a member of the
listed organizations, however they were not itemized in the budget, but were
paid by other sources within the budget. Mayor Pape felt that this should be
addressed as a separate item and the City should continue to be members.
He further explained the allocation for the local EDC, since they have been
very aggressive and contributed to the local economy which is a direct
benefit to the City. He stated that he would like to see the City support
regional economic development because as the economy improves this will
serve to attract more businesses to our City. He noted that the money taken
from the Senior Center and placed in Public Works is a bookkeeping item
and the money will still be spent on the same thing. Mayor Pape addressed
Capital Improvement Projects and noted the roads which will be improved,
as well as signalization in the City. Mayor Pape commented on the trucks
and explained that the old trucks will be taken to auction and offset some of
the cost with the revenue they generate at the sale. He noted that by adding
an additional Code Enforcement Officer it will be possible to have coverage
on weekends and that will help the City as well. He noted that the sales tax
revenue is the largest source of revenue for the City, and explained the
State's past action regarding property taxes and the fact that the majority of
the money is now given to the Schools; therefore the sales tax revenue is
vital to the City.
Councilwoman Brinley explained the use of park fees and the restricted
uses.
MOVED BY BRINLEY, SECONDED BY METZE AND CARRIED BY A
VOTE OF 4 TO 1 WITH ALONGI CASTING THE DISSNTING VOTE, TO
APPROVE THE CITY COUNCIL /REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
BUDGET AS CORRECTED, INCLUDING THE CAPITAL PROJECTS
BUDGET WITH AMENDMENTS TO PARK IN LIEU FEES OF $209000 TO
BE SPENT ON LIGHTS IN THE TREES ON MAIN STREET AND $59000
TO BE ALLOCATED TO REGIONAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT
AND ADOPTION OF RESOLUTION NO. 98-17 AS FOLLOWS:
RESOLUTION NO. 98-17
A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF LAKE
ELSLINORE, CALIFORNIA, APPROVING AND ADOPTING THE
BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR 1998/99 AND APPROPRIATING THE
FUNDS NECESSARY TO MEET THE EXPENDIUTRES SET
FORTH THEREIN.
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RDA RESOLUTION NO. 98 -1
A RESOLUTION OF THE REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY OF THE
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA, APAPROVING TAND
ADOPTING THE BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR 1998/99 AND
APPROPRIATING THE FUNDS NECESSARY TO MEET THE
EXPENDITURES SET FORTH THEREIN.
23. General Plan Amendment No. 98 -1 and Zone Change 98 -1 Assessor's
Parcel Number 373 - 071 -018. (F:83.2)(X:172.2) _
City Manager Watenpaugh highlighted this item.
Mayor Pape opened the Public Hearing at 8:05 p.m., asking those persons
interested in this item to speak. Hearing no one, the Public Hearing was
closed at 8:05 p.m.
Councilman Alongi expressed concern that the City reduces the zoning in
areas such as this, when there is a need for affordable housing. He
indicated that the City is slowly, but surely phasing out any type of multiple
family housing in the City. He concurred that property owners should be
able to use their property as they choose, but stressed that the City has an
obligation to provide housing for all income levels. He expressed
disappointment with the loss of multi- family housing sites; and indicated
that this Council and the previous Council have removed those
opportunities. Mayor Pape indicated that this is a prime area for
commercial development and it will provide jobs for area residents;
resulting in a positive move for the City. Councilwoman Brinley noted the
possibility of an auto dealership, which would be compatible with the other
development in the area, and stressed that this would provide commercial
business and jobs, and create sales tax dollars and property tax dollars. She
stressed the need to go out and aggressively encourage this type of
development to provide jobs. Mayor Pro Tern Kelley indicated that she has
no problem with this request, as Commercial zoning is more compatible
with the surrounding area. She responded positively to the fact that there is
interest in the property by an auto dealership.
MOVED BY METZE, SECONDED BY KELLEY TO APPROVE
MITIGATED NEGATIVE DECLARATION NO. 98 -1, APPROVE
GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT NO. 98 -1, ADOPT RESOLUTION NO.
98 -18, APPROVE ZONE CHANGE NO. 98 -1 AND ADOPT ORDINANCE
NO. 1038 UPON FIRST READING BY TITLE ONLY, BASED ON THE
FOLLOWING FINDINGS:
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Findings — General Plan Amendment 98 -1
The proposed General Plan Amendment will not be: a) detrimental to the
health, safety, comfort or general` welfare of the persons residing or working
within the neighborhood of the proposed amendment or within the City; or
b) injurious to the property or improvements in the neighborhood or within
the City.
2. The proposed General Plan Amendment will permit reasonable
development of the area consistent with its constraints and will make the
area more compatible with adjacent properties.
3. The proposed General Plan Amendment would establish a land use density
and usage more in character with the subject property's location, access and
constraints.
4. The proposed General Plan Amendment will not have a significant effect on
the environment.
Findings —Zone Change 98 -1
The proposed zone change will not be: a) detrimental to the health, safety,
comfort or general welfare of the persons residing or working within the
neighborhood of the proposed amendment or within the City; or b) injurious
to property or improvements in the neighborhood or within the City.
2. The proposed action will be consistent with the Goals, Objectives and
Policies of the General Plan and the standards established in the Municipal
Code.
This project will not have a significant impact on the environment.
RESOLUTION NO. 98-18
A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF LAKE
ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA, RECOMMENDING TO THE CITY
COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE ADOPTION OF
GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT 98 -1 TO CHANGE THE LAND
USE DESIGNATION OF APN 373 - 071 -018 FROM MEDIUM HIGH
DENSITY RESIDENTIAL TO GENERAL COMMERCIAL.
ORDINANCE NO. 1038
AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA, CHANGING THE ZONING OF
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9.11 GROSS ACRES ALONG FRANKLIN STREET FROM R -3
(HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL ZONING) TO C -2 (GENERAL.
COMMERCIAL) - ZONE CHANGE NO. 98 -1.
UPON THE FOLLOWING ROLL CALL VOTE:
AYES: COUNCILMEMBERS: ALONGI, BRINLEY,
KELLEY, METZE, PAPE
NOES:
COUNCILMEMBERS:
NONE
ABSENT:
COUNCILMEMBERS:
NONE
ABSTAIN:
COUNCILMEMBERS:
NONE
BUSINESS ITEMS
31. Lake Elsinore Series A Bonds /Tolling_ Agreement. (F:126.5)
City Manager Watenpaugh highlighted this item and explained the
restructuring of the CFD's to get the current default back in order. He
explained that this action helps to avoid litigation. Mr. Hunt confirmed Mr.
Watenpaugh's explanation and indicated that this agreement is a very
positive sign for the City, as initially the trustee was opposed to this action,
but now supports the proposal and recommended that the bondholders go
along with the agreement. He explained that the agreement protects the
rights of the bondholders and the City, with no one filing litigation while
the restructuring proceeds. He stressed that this is a very positive move
with no down side.
MOVED BY KELLEY, SECONDED_ BY ALONGI AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO APPROVE AND ENTER INTO THE TOLLING
AGREEMENT WITH BNY WESTERN TRUST COMPANY OF
CALIFORNIA.
32. Community Facilities District —Goals and Policy Statement. (F:22.1)
City Manager Watenpaugh explained that the City has not formed a new
Community Facilities District since 1994, however the City has restructured
some existing CFDs. He noted that State Legislation was enacted in
January 1, 1994, which required adoption of local Goals and Policies when
establishing new districts. He noted that as part of the agreement to
restructure a new CFD for the old Summerhill Tract, the City is required to
develop a Goals and Policy Statement for Council's review and
consideration. He explained that the Council can modify or change it
should something not work the way they anticipated it to work.
PAGE THIRTEEN CITY COUNCIL MINUTES — JUNE 239 1998
Don Hunt, representing Fullbright and Jaworski, Bond Counsel, stressed
that tonight or anytime in the future the Council is free at their discretion to
amend or repeal these Goals and Policies and adopt new ones. He noted
that if Council desires to change any item the changes could be made by his
firm.
City Manager Watenpaugh asked Council to disregard pages 11 and 12 of
the report as presented.
Councilman Metze stated that he would like some changes as follow:
Page two — III - Eligible Public Facilities He explained that he would
like to see a second category which discourages the use of bond
money for Parks, Government facilities and Recreation facilities,
including golf courses.
Page 3 —V —Disclosure Requirements He would like to seethe
seller give the buyer the option to add the cost of the Community
Facilities District to the cost of the house or to pay it up front. This
gives the buyer the ability to make a decision and it would be part of
the disclosure.
Councilwoman Brinley asked if this would be the proper time, after the
disclosure is signed, that a copy be given to the City for file. Councilman
Metze stated that rather than having all that paper on file, the City Manager
would be able to acquire a disclosure statement on any given piece of
property upon demand. This would relieve staff from being responsible for
that documentation. He stated that the disclosure statement should define
the purpose of the fee and would clarify that the money would go for the
construction of the facility, not the staffing and maintenance.
Councilman Metze further requested amendment of the policy as follows:
He suggested having the Section that addresses the ability to enact an
annual increase of 2% be changed to 1 % as a preference of the City.
He noted that the State of California allows 2% and the City can set a
tighter limitation on this amount. Mr. Hunt clarified this item.
Councilman Metze explained that the problems the residents have
experienced with Community Facilities Districts are because they were not
handled properly through disclosure.
Councilwoman Brinley stated that she felt the disclosure statements should
be filed with the City so that any problem can be taken care of in a timely
manner and the problem can be addressed immediately instead of making
the homeowner wait.
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Councilman Metze stated that there was a period of time that Community
Facilities Districts were unpopular, however with the economy picking up
they are being formed at a greater rate. He noted that with his suggestions,
it will take special consideration to have anything other than infrastructure
placed into a CFD and that protects the residents.
City Manager Watenpaugh requested clarification of the requirement for the
City to have copies of the signed Disclosure Statements. Councilman
Metze stated that he did not feel this was necessary, however it could
change if the information is not made available in a timely manner.
Mayor Pape stated that he felt it was inappropriate for the City to become
involved in private transactions. He explained that if someone is buying a
house, it is up to the buyer to understand the deal that they are involving
themselves in and the paperwork that they are signing; and if they don't,
they need to consult an attorney. He stated that he doesn't know if the City
should act as big brother and stand looking over someone's shoulder to
question whether the buyer understands what they are signing, serving as a
backup for them.
City Manager Watenpaugh stated that he understands the concern of
Council, however in Section V., first paragraph at the end it states: "Such
disclosure shall include home buyer notifications requiring signature prior
to home purchases, as well as methods to notify subsequent home
purchasers." He stated that he did not know how the City could accomplish
this for subsequent homebuyers.
Mayor Pro Tern Kelley complimented Mr. Hunt for putting together such a
inclusive policy package and agreed with Councilman Metze regarding the
Parks, Governmental facilities, Libraries, Police and fire protection
facilities, and Recreation facilities, including golf courses and placing them
in a separate category. She explained that she found the Disclosure
Requirements on page three very complete and agreed with Mayor Pape that
it is not the City's decision nor burden to collect signed documents for
every household in the community. She stated that this can be handled on a
case by case basis.
Councilman Metze asked how we enforce the statement: "The applicant will
be required to demonstrate, to the satisfaction of the City, that there will be
full disclosure..."
Councilman Alongi stated that it all depends on what is meant by
"demonstrate ". He noted that people are more aware of the meaning of a
Mello -Roos and Community Facilities Districts; and he feels that the
Council is right, that the City has. no business interfering in business
between the buyer and seller. He stated that he would like to see that it is
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fully explained to the buyer what the Mello -Roos is and the assessments on
those properties, however if the City Manager gets a complaint he can get
documentation from the County Hall of Records. He noted that it is hard
enough time keeping track of the City, let alone all the houses that will be
sold in the community. He asked if 1,000 houses were planned and only
300 were built, would the 300 homes share in the total of the assessment of
the Mello -Roos. He asked Mr. Hunt to clarify. Mr. Hunt explained that at
the time the Mello -Roos is established, part of the proceeding is to establish
the maximum special tax that can be levied with respect to the property. He
noted that the 300 homeowners can only share in the overall cost of the
extended maximum special tax. He further explained that normally it's
structured so that public improvements will not be put in at once, but rather
over a period of time as the construction of the District was taking place.
He stated that this is done to protect 300 homes from having to pay the
maximum. Councilman Alongi noted that is the problem that has been
experienced in Tuscany Hills and is the reason why Council is taking this
action. He noted that the reason for placing items listed on page three of the
Policy on a Mello -Roos is because the bank does not recognize those as
debts, as they only look at the selling price. They do not look at the Mello -
Roos or the Community Facilities District, therefore when the City asks the
Developer to withdraw the cost of Parks, Government Facilities, Libraries,
Police and fire protection facilities, Recreation facilities, and golf courses
from the CFD, they won't do it because the Developer must increase the
price of the house to meet the cost and would not be able to sell it easily.
He stated the reason for a CFD is to reduce the cost of the house to enable
the Developer to sell it, however the owner does not realize that the cost
will appear on their taxes. He stated that he feels that Council is getting into
an area where they do not belong and it is buyer beware. He stated that it is
none of his business what the assessments are as long as the facilities are
there. That cost is between the buyer and seller and not the City.
City Manager Watenpaugh clarified the existing CFDs and how they are
structured.
Councilman Metze stated that possibly the Tuscany Hills situation could
have been avoided if the Developer had some of his own money tied up in
the project. He noted that Friedman found it easy to just walk away since
he had none of his own money tied up in the project. He stated that he
would like some way to work with the property owner to help them. He
asked Mr. Hunt if the City would be responsible to prove that the developer
demonstrated to the City the disclosure if a buyer takes the City to court.
Mr. Hall stated that this issue would be addressed at the time of financing
by the developer and the developer would be required to indemnify the
City.
City Manager Watenpaugh stated that staff will do what they can, however
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there are limits to what staff can accomplish.
Councilman Metze stated that the requirement for a down payment insures
that the buyer invests his own money in the home and the same rule applies
if Council requires the developer to assist in providing facilities. He noted
that the Developer will have invested some of his own money and will not
find it easy to file bankruptcy and walls away as they have done with a bond
that they have no money invested in. He stated that it is not that the items
are eliminated, however they are discouraged.
Mr. Hunt explained that the State has laws and enforcement procedures and
he felt that it would be cost prohibitive for the City to try to enforce the
disclosure. He stated that his recommendation would be to contractually
acquire the agreement rather than enforce it.
Mayor Pro Tern Kelley stated that this does not exclude the City from
coming to the aid of someone who didn't understand the situation. She
stated that she felt that the disclosure requirements were quite adequate and
if someone needs some help this does not prevent the City from trying to
help.
Councilwoman Brinley asked how to get the Developer to go out and do
what is needed if it is not part of a CFD. Councilman Metze stated that the
buyer does not have to pay the fees that are discouraged, however the
Developer must see that they are paid. Councilwoman Brinley noted such
things as Police and Fire need to remain on the list because they really do
need to be funded. Councilman Metze stated they would be there, however
what he is saying is just not by a bond.
There was general discussion in regard to how the developer provides
facilities and through what source.
Mayor Pro Tern Kelley explained that Council hears each development on a
case by case basis and it can be decided at that time what will be allowed
and what will not.
Councilwoman Brinley suggested leaving the Goals and Policies as
presented, however when a developer appears before the Planning
Commission, they have the option of using the verbiage the Mayor used.
Councilman Metze stated that if it is not part of the policy, then the City is
singling out one developer over another.
Councilman Alongi stated that if the City involves itself in peoples private
business, it will get into trouble. He explained that the City is not there to
bargain for individual rights. He further explained that the Developer does
have money in a project since when they apply for a construction loan they
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have then made a major investment. He asked what would happen if only
80% of the facilities can be bonded, what happens if the Developer goes
broke and the facilities are not completed. He explained that even though
he disagrees with the use of bonds, at least the City would have the money
up front to construct Government facilities. However if the developer,
without the benefit of bonds, built 400 out of 1000 homes and went broke
there would be no construction of Government facilities and in order to
have Government facilities, the City would have to foot the bill.
Councilman Alongi stated that cities should not get involved in the
construction of any residential or commercial project. He noted that the
City's job is to provide the permits and requirements to build the project.
He stated that the City will receive no more than the property tax which
does not cover the services required for the area. He stated that Mr. Hunt
has done a good job of putting this Goals and Policies together and Council
should listen to them since that is why the City pays them a great deal of
money to guide the Council.
Councilman Metze stated that he spoke with Mr. Hunt prior to the meeting
and clarified that Mr. Hunt felt that the issues he addressed were good
issues. Mr. Hunt stated that he had informed Councilman Metze that it was
not inappropriate for City Council to state that it was their policy to require
a developer to have their own equity in a project and get the support of
financing, but it would be at the discretion of the Council to use all or any
of the policy. He noted that it was prepared for Council consideration and it
is Council's decision to change however they choose.
There was general discussion in regard to the use of Community Facilities
Districts and Mello -Roos.
MOVED BY KELLEY, SECONDED BY BRINLEY TO APPROVE AND
ADOPT THE STATEMENT OF COMMUNITY FACILITIES DISTRICT —
GOALS AND POLICY WITH THE FOLLOWING AMENDMENTS:
Page 2 — III — Eligible Public Facilities.
The addition of a second category that discourages the use of bond
money for Parks, Government facilities, Libraries, Police and Fire
Protection facilities and Recreation facilities, including golf courses.
Page 3 — V — Disclosure Requirements
The seller gives the buyer the option to add the cost of the Community
Facilities to the cost of the house or to pay it up front; giving the buyer
the ability to make a decision.
And add a section that addresses the ability to enact an annual raise of
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2% be changed to 1% as a preference of the City. He noted that the
State of California allows 2% and the City can set a tighter limitation
on this amount.
Mayor Pro Tem Kelley stated that she felt Mr. Hunt's comments about
developer equity are most appropriate and involves the Council as much as
it should be.
Councilwoman Brinley suggested that at some later date a Study Session
should be set to review the Goals and Policy after Council has had the
opportunity to work with them for this Community Facilities District.
Councilman Alongi clarified equity.
THE FOREGOING MOTION WAS APPROVED BY A VOTE OF 4 TO 1
WITH METZE CASTING THE DISSENTING VOTE.
33. Planning Commission Appointments. (F:60.2)
Mayor Pape noted that there are two terms expiring on the Planning
Commission, for which three applications were received. He indicated that
the two current commissioners have submitted applications, in addition to
Robert Magee. He further indicated that he met with Mr. Magee this
morning and his is a very good applicant with good qualifications, however,
the existing Commissioners have_ done a good job for the City. He
recommended the reappointment of Commissioners Al Wilsey and Robert
Schiffner to full terms continuing to June, 2002.
MOVED BY PAPE, SECONDED BY ALONGI AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO REAPPOINT COMMISSIONERS WILSEY AND
SCHIFFNER TO FULL PLANNING COMMISSION TERMS
CONTINUING TO JUNE, 2002.
THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING WAS RECESSED AT 8:50 P.M.
THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING RECONVENED AT 9:00 P.M.
ITEMS PULLED FROM CONSENT CALENDAR
3 Award of Contract - Mission Trail Pavement Rehabilitation Project. - R.J.
Noble Company - $349,645. (F:15.62)
City Manager Watenpaugh explained this item and requested authorization
to award the contract to the low bidder.
Councilman Alongi indicated that he pulled this item to note that this is the
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third time Mission Trail has been done; and while he understands the
location, there have been problems in the past. He noted a past project
where negotiations resulted in the City and EVMWD splitting the cost in
half. He indicated that he did not disagree that work is needed, but there
are other streets which have had no asphalt in 4o years. He noted that with
this project it will total nearly $1 million in expenditures since 1992. He
opposed this expenditure.
Linda Nanetti, Cimarron Road, addressed a newspaper article concerning
the City's debt and the Redevelopment Agency. She questioned the use of
R.J. Noble, and inquired if they would be utilizing local residents to work
on the project. She suggested that a lot of the construction, pavement and
redevelopment improvements could be handled by many of the residents
who are currently out of work.
City Attorney Leibold rioted that State law requires competitive bidding and
acceptance of the lowest responsible bidder. She explained that the City
cannot dictate how the bidders operate their business, but can encourage the
use of local residents.
City Manager Watenpaugh concurred with the City Attorney, and
commented that although there has been past discussion to request local
projects try to hire local people, there is no requirement that they comply.
MOVED BY BRINLEY, SECONDED BY METZE AND CARRIED BY A VOTE OF 4 TO
1 WITH ALONGI CASTING THE DISSENTING VOTE TO ACCEPT THE BID OF R.J.
NOBLE COMPANY AND AWARD THE CONTRACT IN THE AMOUNT OF $349,645
FOR MISSION TRAIL PAVEMENT REHABILITATION.
4. Award of Contract - Fiscal Year 1997 -98 SB821 Sidewalk & Pedestrian
Ramp Improvements - EGN Construction, Inc. - $47,950. (F: 146.2)
City Manager Watenpaugh highlighted this item, and indicated that the
project is located near Elsinore Elementary School and Yarborough Park.
He advised that the Engineer's estimate was $42,000, three bids were
received, and the low bid was from EGN Construction in the amount of
$47,950. He recommended the transfer of Gas Tax funds to assist in
funding the project.
Councilman Alongi indicated that he pulled this item because he didn't have
information as to where the sidewalks were, except in vicinity of the
elementary school. He also indicated that the bids were higher than the
estimate, and noted that this was the first time he had seen that. He stressed
the importance of knowing what streets, sidewalks and ramps are included
in the project; and noted that he would appreciate receiving that information
in his packet next time.
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MOVED BY ALONGI, SECONDED BY METZE AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO AUTHORIZE THE TRANSFER OF $69450.00
FROM THE GAS TAX ACCOUNT TO THE 1997 -98 SB 821 PROJECT
ACCOUNT AND AWARD THE CONTRACT TO E.G.N. CONSTRUCTION
IN THE AMOUNT OF $475950.00.
5. Award of Contract - Strickland Avenue Guard Rail Barricade - Chrisp
Company - $14,020. (F:156.2)
City Manager Watenpaugh highlighted this item, noting that it will protect
three homes on the northerly side of the street. He advised that the
Engineer's estimate for the 330 feet of guardrail was $14,000; and only one
bid was received for $14,020.
Councilman Alongi indicated that if he was correct there were already
arrows in place for the curbs. He questioned the last time any car ran off
the road into the three houses. He noted that this road has been therefor 35
years and there are other areas where the money could be spend on
sidewalks, etc. He stressed that there are arrows indicating that there is a
curve there, and the road was there when the houses were built.
Councilwoman Brinley indicated that there is a public safety issue to
address. Mayor Pro Tern Kelley noted that this was funded in last year's
budget.
MOVED BY BRINLEY, SECONDED BY KELLEY AND CARRIED BY A
VOTE OF 4 TO 1 WITH ALONGI CASTING THE DISSENTING VOTE
TO AWARD THE STRICKLAND AVENUE GUARD RAIL PROJECT TO
CHRISP COMPANY IN THE AMOUNT OF $149020.
7. Lot Line Adjustment between Tract 22912 and City's Future Fire Station
Lot on Lincoln Street. (F: 160.2)(X: 127.3)
City Manager Watenpaugh highlighted this item, and indicated that staff has
recommended the adjustment to transfer the lot line from the bottom of the
slope to the top of the slope, to ensure that the slope will ultimately be
maintained.
Councilman Alongi suggested that this was the City again transferrring the
burden of responsibility from the private property owner to the City. He
indicated that it did not just appear, it was there; and could be assess to the
LLMD to guarantee maintenance of the slope. He stressed that this was
private property agreed to in the tract snap. He expressed concern that the
citizens will pay to maintain the slope when it should be addressed by the
property owners.
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MOVED BY BRINLEY, SECONDED BY METZE AND CARRIED BY A
VOTE OF 4 TO 1 WITH ALONGI CASTING THE DISSENTING VOTE
TO AUTHORIZE THE MAYOR TO EXECUTE THE LOT LINE
ADJUSTMENT AND AUTHORIZE THE CITY CLERK TO RECORD THE
DOCUMENT.
8. Memorandum of Understanding with United Public Employees of
California - LIUNA Local 777 for Fiscal Years 1997 -98 and 1998 -99.
(F:116.3)
City Manager Watenpaugh highlighted this item and noted that the
proposed Memorandum had been negotiated and ratified by the employees.
He advised that the agreement was for a 2 year contract with a 1.8% cost of
living increase and medical and dental insurance increases for a total
package of 2.22% in the first year; and a 2.5% total package for 1998 -99.
Councilman Alongi indicated that he needed to explain his vote on this
item, as he believes that every area should be considered when the City has
financial problems. He concurred that the City has good employees, but it
is important to hit every area to save a dollar. He indicated that there comes
a time when the Council should be unanimous, even when they disagree and
this is one of those times.
MOVED BY ALONGI, SECONDED BY KELLEY AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO APPROVE THE MEMORANDUM OF
UNDERSTANDING WITH UNITED PUBLIC EMPLOYEES OF
CALIFORNIA — LIUNA LOCAL 777 FOR THE PERIOD, 1997 -99, AS
PRESENTED.
9. Closure of Summerhill Drive. (F:156.1)
City Manager Watenpaugh explained this item, and expressed appreciation
to the Council for pulling it from the Consent Calendar, as it should have
been a Business Item to gain direction from the City Council.
Councilman Alongi indicated that Tuscany Hills is within the City of Lake
Elsinore and those are all public streets, and everyone makes sacrifices.
during the year for the benefit of the Community. He noted that some of the
races require complete closure of some areas. He suggested that it was
irresponsible for residents to think there is a need to close off public streets,
as everyone pays taxes to maintain streets; and indicated it was not fair to
close them just because a group has the ear of the Council and receives
special treatment. He indicated that Summerhill Drive should remain open
unless there is a race on it. He further indicated that last year it was
arbitrarily closed, and suggested that it was completely irresponsible to
deny residents a place to watch the fireworks.
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Mayor Pape indicated that while he has not discussed the matter with
Tuscany Hills residents; they are not really equipped to handle large
amounts of traffic or crowds, noting the problems experienced in years
when it was not closed. He specifically noted the lacy of restroom facilities
and potential for hazards on the 4t' of July; and suggested that it seemed like
a reasonable request for any such area.
Councilwoman Brinley noted that this road is subject to closure for races
and this is a time when they are heavily impacted and should be assisted.
She indicated that this closure would be at no cost to the City, and the
homeowners association will pay for the police officer. She concurred that
everyone is impacted by special events in one way or another, but stressed
the past problems which have been encountered in that area. She suggested
that if the residents are willing to pay for expenses, then they should be
allowed to do so.
MOVED BY BRINLEY, SECONDED BY METZE TO APPROVE
CLOSURE OF SUMMERHILL DRIVE FOR THE JULY 4 T HOLIDAY AS
REQUESTED.
Councilman Alongi addressed Councilwoman Brinley and indicated that he
did not disagree, but a few inconsiderate people should not spoil the
celebration for others. He indicated that most people park some distance
from the residences. He suggested that the Council would be wrong to
approve this closure and set themselves up for problems in other areas.
Mayor Pro Tern Kelley requested an estimate as to how many cars try to go
up there and inquired whether there has been problems in the past. Chief
Walsh indicated that there have been problems in years past, including
parking, no restrooms, and the generation of a good deal of traffic. He
indicated that there is a park in the area which could be open to all, but the
road closure prevents other problems.
THE FOREGOING MOTION CARRIED BY A VOTE OF 4 TO 1 WITH
ALONGI CASTING THE DISSENTING VOTE.
THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING WAS RECESSED AT 9:30 P.M.
THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING RECONVENED AT 9:32 P.M.
PUBLIC COMMENTS - NON - AGENDIZED ITEMS
Candy Schmitt, 15227 Washington Avenue, stated that there has been some traffic
enforcement made in her area, however it has been done in a very limited basis.
She noted that after the traffic monitor was removed enforcement was aggressive
for about three or four days, however since that time there has been no
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enforcement at all. She further stated that it is the responsibility of the Council to
see to the safety of the citizens and she felt that some stop signs might assist in
slowing traffic. She further suggested that there are other cities that use speed
bumps in problem neighborhoods and the City could research the possibility of
that use. She invited Council to come and sit in her front yard and watch the traffic
that speeds up and down the street.
Chris Hyland, 15191 Wavecrest Drive, disagreed that the City is in good financial
shape and noted a lawsuit against the City for $2.4 that was recently awarded to a
local citizen. She further noted that there is another lawsuit pending against the
City that may be greater than $2.4 million. She stated that if the City appeals the
interest will continue on the amount. She cautioned the tax payer that this is not
paid by the insurance company, but rather from the General Fund, since the RDA
has no money.
Desiree O'Neill, 15253 Washington Avenue, stated that all of the suggestions that
she has made to resolve the traffic problems on her street have been dismissed as
not possible and she stated her frustration with the entire situation. She noted that
for buyers to move into their homes, the City had to approve the safety of the
streets, therefore why is the,City not taking action to insure the safety of the
children and the residents on Washington Street. She cited a recent incident that
she experienced with racing cars and asked that Council address this issue.
Pat Homes, 2657 Regent Road,, Carlsbad, stated that she is the owner of 96
Eleanor which was rented by a church and has been rezoned residential. She
explained that the property has a building on it and she has a possible renter,
however for him to rent the building he will have to pay a fee of $2,000. She
stated that the cost has made it impossible for her to rent her building and she is
paying taxes for commercial property, however she cannot rent it as such. She
asked for Council assistance. Mayor Pape pointed out Community Development
Director Brady and suggested that Ms. Homes discuss this issue with him.
Harold Boutilier, 15245 Washington Avenue, and addressed the problem with
traffic on his street and the danger that is present to their children caused by
speeding cars. He stated that it the duty of Council to address safety issues and his
neighborhood wants to prevent a serious accident. He suggested that the citizens
be allow to assist the Police Department as other cities have done to do traffic
enforcement for their area.
Linda Nanetti, questioned where the City is going to get the money for the recent
lawsuit. She suggested that the Redevelopment Agency and the Council become
separate entities and not part of the City coffers. She suggested that this would
allow the money from the taxpayer to be utilized for the needs of the City and the
misuse of the RDA funds and lawsuits would not affect the General Fund. She
noted that other cities do not have RDA draining their coffers.
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CITY MANAGER COMMENTS
City Manager Watenpaugh addressed the problems on Washington Avenue and
stated that he will contact Mrs. O'Neill to set a neighborhood meeting.
He also addressed Mrs. Zeiler's comments and stated that he will provide
information for Mrs. Zeiler to pursue. He stated that the City is concerned with
future water and water rates, however it is not something that the City cannot
directly control.
He congratulated the City Attorney on her 7t' Anniversary.
CITY ATTORNEY COMMENTS
No Comments.
CITY COUNCIL COMMENTS
Councilman Metze commented on the following:
Addressed the problems on Washington Street and noted that if the City
places a stop sign on Washington Avenue and it is not warranted, then the
City is held liable should there be an accident. He stated that it is
frustrating, however the problem must be addressed in the proper manner to
protect everyone and he will be happy to meet with the residents to work on
this issue.
Councilman Alongi commented on the following:
Stated that money solves a lot of problems and that is why he feels that it is
important how the City spends the money. He stated that he would like to
see the City take $100,000 and hire a police officer to sit on Washington
Avenue to end the problem. He noted that when people start getting tickets
and pay fines, they pay attention. He stated that he would rather see us
spend the money in that manner rather than on 4X4 trucks.
2. Addressed LEAF and cautioned people to have their pets spayed and
neutered. He noted that the amount of animals being turned into the pound
is growing and people need to be responsible.
3. Addressed HOPE and stated that every Saturday at 12:00p.m., there will be
free lunch bags, groceries and clothing at the Grand Avenue Association
Building, 17400 Grand Avenue.
4. Commented on the Community Center and stated that he felt that too much
money was set aside and there is a lot of work that can be done by
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volunteers. He stated that the City needs volunteers to paint, remove
carpets off of the walls, someone who can lay and repair carpet. He stressed
that the community needs to come to together and show that they have an
interest in their own city by getting the Community Center open. He noted
that the people that are doing the graffiti could contribute by applying their
art to the walls of the Community Center.
Commented on the purchase of computer equipment at City Hall and
explained that the reason the bid was extended was because the closing date
was set on a Friday, and because City Hall is closed it had to be extended.
He further commented on the honesty of the people on Council and staff
and stated that they make mistakes, however they are not trying to favor
anyone.
6. Commented on a meeting with Senator Haynes and stated his surprise
regarding the discussion on Low Income Housing. He noted that in other
communities the Mayors help to build houses and in this community we tear
them down.
7. Stated that he has a problem with changing Multiple Family Zoning because
everytime the City does that we restrict that type of building. He noted that
the General Plan calls for that zoning and the owner of the property had the
opportunity to appear before Council to address the zoning and it should
remain the same now that the General Plan has been adopted. He explained
that the commercial businesses that are coming to the community provide
minimum wage jobs, however the City does not provide minimum wage
housing. He stated that those people are entitled to quality housing the
same as everyone else.
8. Addressed the use of_the. RDA to purchase homes that have been boarded
up, rehabilitate, and sell them to working families that cannot afford new
homes and generate income for RDA. He explained to Ms. Nanetti that the
RDA is a separate entity and asked that she educate herself in regard to
RDA.
Councilwoman Brinley commented on the following:
Thanked Senator Haynes for spending some time on Saturday with Council.
She noted that he touched upon vehicle tax and a breakdown of the
structure. She stated that she felt that the meeting was very valuable.
2. Addressed Washington Avenue and stated that Council has been interested.
She made note of the amount of tickets that have been given over the last
two weeks and stated that it does have some impact. She stated that this is
an important issue and the children of the community are our concern. She
noted the traffic concern in her neighborhood and stressed her
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understanding of their problem.
Asked staff to provide some books to Ms. Nanetti to help her better
understand RDA. She noted that this body of officials have been working
hard to resolve the financial problems of the RDA and hope to completely
resolve all the problems in not too many more years.
4. Congratulate staff and the City Manager on the budget and commented on
what a good job they have done.
Expressed her pleasure with the opening of the Community Center, the
Campground and extra Code Enforcement. She stressed her concern
regarding illegal businesses setting up areas on the weekends and taking
business away from our local merchants.
6. Asked the City Attorney to explain Council's position in regard to lawsuits.
City Attorney Leibold noted the lawsuits that the City is currently working
on and the fact that the majority of them she is currently dealing with are
from eight or more years ago. She explained that the City will be making a
motion for an appeal and she will continue to resolve the problems. She
stated that the paperwork for the lawsuit is public information, however it
will not be discussed.
Mayor Pro Tern Kelley commented on the following:
Concurred with Councilwoman Brinley regarding the good job done on the
budget and noted how easy it is to understand. She explained that Council
was given the opportunity to work with staff and review the budget line by
line and express their opinions and desires. She stated that all areas are
open for discussion and the Council will be glad to meet with the public to
receive their input.
2. Addressed the problem on Washington Avenue and stated that Council is
and will be working on the problem. She stated that Council will be
working with Captain Walsh to see what can be done.
Mayor Pape commented on the following:
Thanked the Board of Realtors, who were painting over graffiti today, for
doing such a good job. He noted that the City has budgeted for a graffiti
program and commented on what a good job everyone has done.
2. Wished everyone a happy 4"' of July.
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City Attorney Leibold addressed the comments regarding litigation and indicated
that all cities are potential parties in litigation and are perceived as deep pockets,
although many such cases are without merit.
CLOSED SESSION
A. CONFERENCE WITH LEGAL COUNSEL - EXISTING LITIGATION
(Subdivision ( a) of Section 54956.9):
Koliber vs. Elsinore Valley Municipal Water District, et al - Case
#217976
Harvey & Page, et al. vs. Elsinore Valley Municipal Water District, et
al. - Case #215768.
Williams & Hasson vs. City of Lake Elsinore - Case
#257165 /Williams vs. City of Lake Elsinore -Case #257162.
B. CONFERENCE WITH LEGAL COUNSEL - ANTICIPATED
LITIGATION (Initiation of litigation pursuant to subdivision ( b ) of
Section 54956.9 (1 Case).
City Attorney Leibold announced the above listed closed session items.
THE REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING WAS ADJOURNED TO CLOSED
SESSION AT 10:15 P.M. FOR DISCUSSION OF THE ABOVE LISTED ITEMS.
THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING RECONVENED AT 10:40 P.M., WITH THE
FOLLOWING ANNOUNCEMENTS:
With regard to the following litigation,
Koliber vs. Elsinore Valley Municipal Water District, et al - Case
#217976
Harvey & Page, et al. vs. Elsinore Valley Municipal Water District, et
al. - Case #215768.
Legal Counsel Leibold provided a Status Report to the City Council and by a vote
of 5 to 0 provided clarification of settlement authority.
With regard to the following litigation,
Williams & Hasson vs. City of Lake Elsinore - Case
4257165 /Williams vs. City of Lake Elsinore - Case #257162.
Legal Counsel Leibold provided a Status Report to the City Council.
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With regard to anticipated litigation, Legal Counsel Leibold reported no action.
ADJOURNMENT
MOVED BY ALONGI, SECONDED BY METZE AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO ADJOURN THE REGULAR CITY COUNCIL
MEETING AT 10:41 P.M.
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CALL TO ORDER
The Regular City Council Meeting was called to order by Mayor Pape at 7:02 p.m.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Councilwoman Brinley.
INVOCATION
The Invocation was provided by Pastor Jack Warford representing the First
Southern Baptist Church.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: ALONGI, BRINLEY,
KELLEY, METZE, PAPE
ABSENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: NONE
Also present were: City Manager Watenpaugh, Acting City Attorney Ron Van
Blarcom, Administrative Services Director Boone, Community Development
Director Brady, Community Services Director Sapp, City Engineer O'Donnell,
Police Lt. Horton, Fire Chief Seabert, Assistant to the City Manager Best and City
Cleric Kasad.
PRESENTATIONS
A. Presentation —Peter Dawson. (F:56.1)
Mayor Pape called Mr. Dawson forward and noted his efforts to promote
the Lake and activities on it. He presented Mr. Dawson with a City Tile
Plaque and thanked him for his efforts. Mr. Dawson thanked the Council
for this recognition, but noted the efforts of others who have worked just as
hard as he without recognition. He stressed that progress takes the efforts of
many people. He noted his personal satisfaction with working for himself
and assisting the Community.
PUBLIC COMMENTS — AGENDIZED ITEMS
Requests were received to address the following items and deferred to those items:
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Item Nos. 32 and 33.
CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS
The following items were pulled from the Consent Calendar for further discussion
and consideration:
Item Nos. 4, 5 and 6.
MOVED BY BRINLEY, SECONDED BY KELLEY AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO APPROVE THE BALANCE OF THE CONSENT
CALENDAR AS PRESENTED.
1. The following Minutes were approve:
Regular City Council Meeting — June 9, 1998. (17:44.4)
The following Minutes were received and ordered filed:
Planning Commission Meeting = June 3, 1998. (17:60.3)
Planning Commission Meeting — June 17, 1998.
Design Review Committee Meeting — June 3, 1998. (F:60.4)
Design Review Committee Meeting —June 17, 1998.
2. Ratified the Warrant List for June 30, 1998. (F:12.3)
3. Rejected and referred to Claims Administrator for handling, the Claim
Against the City submitted by Carlos Gonzales (CL #98 -17). (F:52.2)
PUBLIC HEARING
21. Fiscal Year 1998 -99 Citywide Lighting and Landscape Maintenance
District. (F:22.2)
City Manager Watenpaugh highlighted the program and the budget, which
remains the same as last year. He noted that presence of City Attorney
representatives Ron Van Blarcoin and David Mann to respond to any
questions on this item.
Mayor Pape opened the public hearing at 7:10 p.m. asking those persons
interested in this item to speak. Hearing no one the public hearing was
closed at 7:10 p.m.
Councilwoman Brinley noted that with no increases there was not a lot to
discuss. Mayor Pape concurred, noting that it was strictly a roll over
budget.
MOVED BY BRINLEY, SECONDED BY METZE AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO ADOPT RESOLUTION NO. 98 -19, SETTING
THE FISCAL YEAR 1998 -99 BENEFIT ASSESSMENT.
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BUSINESS ITEMS
31. Second Reading — Ordinance No. 1038 — Zone Change No. 98 -1. (F:172.2)
City Manager Watenpaugh highlighted this item.
MOVED BY KELLEY, SECONDED BY BRINLEY TO ADOPT
ORDINANCE NO. 1038 UPON SECOND READING BY TITLE ONLY.
Councilman Alongi noted the discussion at the last meeting and his support
of the Ordinance, but-expressed concern with the reasons for the zone
change. He noted that the area is all residential and access will still have to
be through the residential area to get to the project.
Linda Nanetti, 16293 Cimarron Road, apologized to the RDA for not
knowing all of the facts before she spoke, but indicated that there is still
lot to do. She expressed concern with people who do not participate in
government or the community. She stressed the need to neighbors to get
active in the community.
ORDINANCE NO. 1038
AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA, CHAGNING THE ZONING OF
9.11 GROSS ACRES ALONG FRANKLIN STREET FROM R -3
(HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL) ZONING TO C -2 GENERAL
COMMERCIAL - ZONE CHANGE 98 -1.
UPON THE FOLLOWING ROLL CALL VOTE:
AYES: COUNCILMEMBERS: ALONGI, BRINLEY,
KELLEY, METZE, PAPE
NOES: COUNCILMEMBERS: NONE
ABSENT: COUNCI LMEMBERS: NONE
ABSTAIN: COUNCILMEMBERS: NONE
32. Community Facilities District 98 -1 Election Results /Ordinance Authorizin
the Levv of a Special Tax — Resolution No. 98 -20 and Ordinance No. 1039.
(F:223)
City Manager Watenpaugh highlighted this item and explained the
formation of Community Facilities District 98 -1. He reminded the Council
that this is not a funding for the developer, but for the trustee and the
bondholders. He stressed that construction will need to occur prior to this
District moving forward.
City Clerk Kasad reported that the property owner's ballot was in support of
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this formation.
Mayor Pro Tem Kelley noted that this action is part of the financial workout
plan carried over from the last meeting
MOVED BY KELLEY, SECONDED BY BRINLEY TO ADOPT
RESOLUTION NO. 98-20 CANVASSING THE RESULTS OF THE
ELECTION, AND ADOPT ORDINANCE NO. 1039 UPON FIRST
READING BY TITLE ONLY.
Mayor Pape noted that there has been good news on this property,
particularly for the residents of Summerhill. He announced that last week
Abaccy sold and closed escrow on 233 lots. He noted that with this
purchase, model homes could go up very quickly. He further noted that the
remaining 189 lots will be purchased by another company and that
announcement should follow within the very near future.
Councilman Alongi stressed that no bonds should be sold or transferred
before the property is sold. He noted that property values can be raised in
many different ways. He expressed concern for the predicament which
could occur and indicated that this information was not what he previously
voted on. Mayor Pape indicated that it was the same information as
previously discussed. Councilman Alongi indicated that homes were
supposed to be sold and occupied prior to bonds being issued.
Council discussion ensued with regard to the 3 to 1 ratio.
Councilman Alongi stressed the verbiage he would like to see in the
agreement. Mayor Pape noted that the bonds have not been sold and the
matter will be required to return to Council for approval prior to selling the
bonds; and if the situation is not satisfactory at that time the Council does
not have to authorize the issuance. Councilman Alongi expressed concern
that the only person voting on this matter is the developer. Mayor Pape
clarified that this action would only impact the property owners and the
developer is currently the only property owner. Councilman Alongi
questioned whether people would buy houses with these assessments on
them and expressed concern that the Council might change and the original
intent of the action would be changed.
ORDINANCE NO. 1039
AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF
LAKE ELSINORE ACTING AS THE LEGISLATIVE BODY OF
COMMUNITY FACILITIES DISTRICT NO. 98-1 AUTHROIZING
THE LEVY OF A SPECIAL TAX.
UPON THE FOLLOWING ROLL CALL VOTE:
AYES: COUNCILMEMBERS: BRINLEY, KELLEY,
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METZE, PAPE
NOES: COUNCILMEMBERS: ALONGI
ABSENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: NONE
ABSTAIN: COUNCILMEMBERS: NONE
33. Stop Sign Controlled Intersection — Washington Avenue and Dijon Street —
Resolution No. 98 -21. (F:162.2)
City Manager Watenpaugh highlighted this item and noted the regulatory
factors limiting placement of traffic controls. He explained that this area
meets the criteria for stop signs on "interior collector streets ". He advised
that staff was proposing that they proceed with installing two stop signs and
striping the streets, at a cost of about $1,500. He noted that Chief Walsh
and staff met with the residents and implemented some additional traffic
enforcement hours in the area. He advised that the police department had
issued 35 citations and made one DUI arrest.
Desiree O'Neal, 15253 Washington Ave., believes the stop signs are a start
although they may not solve the problem. She thanked the Police
Department for the additional patrols and detailed the DUI situation. She
expressed appreciation for the assistance to date and requested continued
patrol for a while longer.
Earl Boutilier, 15245 Washington Avenue, echoed the comments of Ms.
O'Neal and expressed appreciation to the Council and Police Department.
He noted that the number of citations speaks volumes with regard to the
problems. He stressed that this warrants further attention, and suggested
that as the community grows there is a need for the residents to take
responsibility for their neighborhoods. He stressed the importance of
staying focused on this problem and having the residents get involved,
noting that there are also CC & R violations to be addressed.
Sue Schultz, 157 S. Terra Cotta, stressed the importance of this issue and
the importance of coining before the Council to find solutions. She noted
correspondence dating back to July, 1988, relating to closure of the street.
She further noted that she was appalled at comments by City staff with,
regard to the request for speed bumps. She noted that she testified in the
trial for the Reichard claim; and suggested that it might be appropriate to
cul -de -sac the street.
Councilman Alongi noted that when this development went in, it was staff's
recommendation that no houses face Washington Street because it is a
collector street. He suggested that sometimes we create our own problems,
but a stop sign would not stop someone who is going to break the law. He
further suggested that the only way to correct the problem is with high
sheriff visibility in the area, as the stop signs won't solve the problem. He
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indicated that if pressure is applied to staff, the staff will recommend what
the Council wants. He noted that he will vote for the stop sign because the
community wants it, but stressed that it would not solve the problem.
Councilwoman Brinley noted her understanding of this situation, based on
traffic in her neighborhood and concurred that a stop sign is not a speed
control measure. She noted the tragedy of people driving under the
influence of alcohol, and expressed concern with the DUI arrest in the area.
She indicated that she would be voting in support of the stop signs out of
understanding of the concerns for the residents. She commented that she
discussed the citations written with the City Manager and stressed the need
for continued high visibility.
Mayor Pro Tern Kelley expressed support for the stop sign and suggested
that it was a good first step, but it will also be important to continue the
police patrols in the area. She indicated that the Council would need to
direct the Planning Commission and future developers to be aware of traffic
flows; but stressed that the ultimate responsibility lies with the drivers on
Washington Street. She further stressed that the City can try to enforce the
laws, but the citizens have the responsibility for abiding by the laws.
Councilman Metze indicated that this was a small but necessary step and
suggested that Washington and Terra Cotta should be cul- de- saced. He
indicated that when the developer starts work on the Torn Ranch property
he will insist on cul- de- lacing. He concurred that people drive too fast and
this should not be a through street.
MOVED BY BRINLEY, SECONDED BY METZE TO ADOPT
RESOLUTION NO. 98-21 AUTHORIZING ALL WAY STOP SIGN
CONTROL FOR ALL INTERSECTION APPROACHES ON
WASHINGTON AVENUE AND DIJON STREET.
Mayor Pape noted the recent discussions with staff and the residents, and
the increased patrols; and expressed hopes that the effort would change the
pattern. He noted that when going down Lincoln Street it is important to
make a conscious effort to slow down, coming down the hill. He further
noted the recent dramatic reduction in speed on Lincoln Street, and
suggested that most people don't intentionally speed, but they just tend to
go too fast. He indicated that he spoke with the Police Chief and they will
be in the area providing enforcement in addition to the stop sign.
Councilman Metze noted that cul- de- sacing would assist and he did not
know how long the City could allow for increased police patrols.
THE FOREGOING MOTION CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE.
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RESOLUTION NO. 98 -21
A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF LAKE
ELSINORE, DESIGNATING THE LOCATION OF CERTAIN STOP
INTERSECTIONS.
34. Appointment to Riverside County Transportation Commission (RCTC).
(F:140.19)
City Manager Watenpaugh explained that this request is based on the
planned expansion of RCTC.
MOVED BY BRINLEY, SECONDED BY METZE AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO APPOINT MAYOR PAPE TO SERVE AS THE
CITY'S RESPRESENTATIVE TO THE RIVERSIDE COUNTY
TRANSPORATION COMMISSION.
ITEMS PULLED FROM THE CONSENT CALENDAR
4. 24t' Year C.D.B.G. Supplemental Agreement. (F:68.1)(X:84.2)
City Manager Watenpaugh clarified that the funding in this agreement has
already been approved and this item is for ratification of the agreement.
Councilman Alongi indicated that it is difficult to vote against this item
even if some programs don't get funding. He noted the agreement to give
HOPE and Operation School Bell funds was not included in the final
agreement. He noted that this item is tied to item #5 and he has not yet
received information on how many of the seniors at the Center are City
residents vs. County residents. He questioned how much the City should
have to subsidize, noting that the County contributes $30,000, but the City
contributes $50,000. He indicated that while he would support this item, he
is concerned with the CDBG funds being used for the Senior Center.
MOVED BY METZE, SECONDED BY KELLEY AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO APPROVE THE SUPPLEMNTAL AGREEMENT
FOR 24TH YEAR C.D.B.G. FUNDS FOR ALTERNATIVES TO DOMESTIC
VIOLENCE ($2,500); LAKE ELSINORE SENIOR CENTER ($50,000);
OPERATION SCHOOL BELL ($2,500); H.O.P.E. ($2,500); SPRING
STREET RECONSTRUCTION PROJECT ($104,971); CODE
ENFORCEMENT ($34,985); AND AUTHORIZED THE MAYOR AND
STAFF TO EXECUTE THE APPROAPRIATE DOCUMENTS AND
TRANSMIT TO THE COUNTY OF RIVERSIDE ECONOMIC
DEVELOPMENT AGENCY.
CDBG Sponsor's Agreement. (F.68.1)(X:84.2)
MOVED BY METZE, SECONDED BY KELLEY AND CARRIED BY
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UNANIMOUS VOTE TO APPROVE THE SPONSOR'S AGREEMENT
AND DIRECT THE CITY CLERK TO HAVE THE DOCUMENTS
EXECUTED AND FORWARDED.
6. Crane's Boat Docks. (F:92.1)
City Manager Watenpaugh explained this item and noted the proposed
agreement and diagrams. He noted that the docks would extend no more
than 190', and explained that this is a partnership effort with the facility.
He clarified that they are seeking City approval because they will be
extending into the Lake beyond their property. He advised that they are
willing to buy a business license and work with the City on special events.
Councilman Alongi indicated that he pulled this item because the facility is
in the County and they are not required to have a City business license. He
questioned the liability of getting involved in the County area. He
suggested that the applicant should be talking to Supervisor Buster. City
Manager Watenpaugh reiterated that the docks would extend into City
property, and the applicant approached the City; the City did not solicit such
an effort. He detailed the location of the proposed docks and suggested that
staff saw the partnership as a positive move. He further reiterated that they
are willing to buy a business license.
Councilman Alongi stressed the issue of riparian rights which have never
been cleared up, and other legal questions to be answered. He further
stressed the importance of evaluating the liability for the City.
Mayor Pape inquired of City Manager Watenpaugh whether the city has
responsibility for recreation on the surface of the lake. City Manager
Watenpaugh confirm that would be a City responsibility, along with
enforcement factors.
Councilman Metze noted the staff report regarding water surface issues, and
noted that the proposal seems very positive.
Councilwoman Brinley.inquired whether this item had been discussed with
the City Attorney. City Manager Watenpaugh confirmed. Acting City
Attorney Van Blarcom indicated that there will always be increased liability
with increased activity. He commented that the City interests have beep
well considered, but there will still be a matter of liability. Councilwoman
Brinley stressed that there will be responsibility with use of the Lake, but
this is a positive effort.
Mayor Pro Tern Kelley inquired how high the dock would be above the
water level. Assistant to the City Manager Best indicated that it would be
an 18" dock. Mrs. Kelley inquired if there would be sales of advertising
and where it would be.
Mr. Jarret, 481 Sommerset, Corona, indicated that the docks would be 187
high, 16' wide and 60 feet long, with sign sections. He clarified that the
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dock sections would be moved to accommodate variable water levels. Mrs.
Kelley inquired who would be maintaining the signs. Mr. Jarret indicated
that they would maintain the signs. Mrs. Kelley stressed the need to assure
that they are always well maintained and liability is prevented for the City.
She indicated that overall she was supportive of this project.
MOVED BY KELLEY, SECONDED BY BRINLEY TO APPROVE THE
BOAT DOCK SYSTEM AND DIRECT STAFF TO WORK WITH THE
FACILITY AND DEVELOPER TO ENSURE COMPLIANCE WITH ALL
APPLICABLE CITY ORDINANCES , CODES AND REGULATIONS.
Mayor Pape indicated that he would be in favor of anything that promotes
Lake usage.
Councilman Alongi inquired if they would allow overnight mooring. Mr.
Jarrett indicated that they would like to do so in the future. Mr. Alongi
inquired whether they would collect the City's day use fees. Mr. Jarrett
confirmed. Councilman Alongi indicated that he also would support
activity on the Lake. He inquired if the City Manager had received
comments from the JPIA on this matter. Mr. Watenpaugh indicated that he
checked and there would be no increase. Councilman Alongi indicated that
he thinks this is a great idea, but he would like more formal information
from the JPIA, and a feasibility study.
THE FOREGOING MOTION CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE.
THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING WAS RECESSED AT 8:11 P.M.
THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING RECONVENED AT 8:12 P.M.
PUBLIC COMMENTS — NON - AGENDIZED ITEMS
Jeanie Corral, 16410 West Lakeshore Drive, appeared on behalf of the Lake
Elsinore Woman's Club and addressed a citation for signage. Asked that the
ordinance be amended to waive fees for banners that are placed for non -profit
endeavors or placed to support the organization. She stated that her organization
would be happy to pay, however they would like to compromise with the City
since they would like to use a banner to inform the public that the Club House is
for rent to the public. She asked that the City use Code Enforcement to address
the high weed problem across from the Woman's Club as well as address the
residence next door to the Woman's Club House.
Bob Salchow, 9 Villa Valtelena, addressed the closure of Summerhill closure on
the 4t' of July and thanked Council for their support in regard to this matter. He
stated his displeasure of Councilman Alongi's remarks and stated that the
residents of Summerhill have to pay 100% of the slopes maintenance and
landscaping as well as contributing to the rest of the City through their LLMD
fees. He stressed that when the public comes into the area, they would have to
enter private property to view the fireworks and /or park on Summerhill Drive,
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which has no parking at any tune. He noted that they have abused the area in the
past and it is the residents of Summerhill that must pick up the tab to clean up the
area and replace damaged landscaping.
George Cameron, 116 W. Sumner Avenue, thanked the City Manager Watenpaugh
and Councilman Alongi for their assistance when the property on Main and
Sumner was condemned. He noted that through the condemnation he and his
family would have been homeless. He explained that even through the property
should be condemned, the City should have some resources for the families that
are evicted. He noted that although a family is low income does not mean that
they are low life. He explained that even though the extension has been granted,
there are still no resources and on behalf of himself and his fellow neighbors he
wished Council to consider that on August 7, there will still be 13 children who
will be homeless and they do need help.
Chris Hyland, 15191 Wavecrest, responded to the letter from City Manager
Watenpaugh regarding the computers. She stated that she could not understand
why the City will give no business to anyone except the man in Rialto. She
stressed it upsets her to take her tax money and give it to outside vendors, since
there are several vendors in the City who would do as well. She noted the cost of
business cards and objected to the lighting of trees on Main Street.
Rene Cabahug, 27 Corte Madera, addressed his proposal to build a solar electric
generating power plant in the City of Lake Elsinore. He noted the potential
location and the advantages of have a City power plant. He gave a background of
his company and the impact of the deregulation of electricity. He encouraged
Council to consider his proposal.
Pat Lyda, 32810 Keel Drive, stated her concern regarding the $20,000 for lights in
the trees on Main Street. She noted that the money could be better spent
elsewhere. -
Donald Ketch, 505 N. Ellis Street, commented on the lack of fireworks provided
by the City and stated that he would rather have fireworks for his children instead
of lights in trees on Main Street.
Linda Nanetti, 16293 Cimarron Road, stated her pleasure that people are
addressing the issues. She read an article from the Press Enterprise and stated her
agreement about people stepping forward and expressing their opinions.
CITY MANAGER COMMENTS
1. Thanked Ron Van Blarcom and David Mann substituting for the City
Attorney.
2. Thanked Pete Dawson for his recognition of local volunteers. He noted that
a Volunteer Awards Program should be considered on an annual basis.
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Noted that City staff is in process of review of the Banner Ordinance and
explained that staff is limited and camlot address all the illegal banners that
are in the City. He further explained that staff is in the process of
evaluating the ordinance to see if the fees can be waived for non - profit
organizations.
4. Addressed the ability to develop resources for low income. He noted that
this is a priority for the future.
5. Stated that the notices and bids on the computers were distributed at the
same time.
6. Stressed that it is a slow process to return services and asked that the public
be supportive.
CITY ATTORNEY COMMENTS
No Comments.
CITY COUNCIL COMMENTS
Councilman Metze commented on the following:
1. Complimented the Storm and Lake Elsinore Entertainment for the festivities
on the 4"' of July. He noted that there were approximately 12, 000 people in
the Stadium and approximately 5 to 10 thousand people sitting outside. He
further noted that for a City of 27,000 he did not feel that it was a
disappointment.
2. Noted the Special Meeting for the RCHCA that will be held on the 29 ' of
July and he will bring back more information for the Council and public.
Councilman Alongi commented on the following:
Suggested that the residents from Tuscany Hills get the minutes to clarify
the situation with the slopes. He addressed the closure of streets in Tuscany
Hills and stated that they are City streets and there is a public park in
Tuscany Hills and if they wanted it to be private, they should have made the
tract a gated community. He noted that the rich, middle class and poor of
the entire City contribute toward the street sweeping and maintenance as
well as the maintenance of the park. He asked what would happen if his
neighborhood decided to boycott the motorcycle races. He explained that
his neighborhood goes through what they go through during the races and
there are some people that have no consideration and there is nothing that
anyone can do about it, ,because they are the kind of people that they are.
He further explained that we should look at the overall picture of the people
who behave themselves, and we refuse them the one thing that they have to
celebrate which is the 4"' of July fireworks.
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2. Commented on the euthanasia of dogs and cats by LEAF and the high
numbers they are experiencing. He noted the amount of money this costs to
address the problem, which could better be spent on our children and their
needs.
3. He addressed Washington Avenue and stated that if any area requires a
police officer more than others, then the City should address it. There are
various programs that can be designed to control traffic through exposure at
various times.
4. Addressed the housing problem for low income and noted that what the
Mayor views as low income are really slums. He noted the abatement
program and the lack of services provided to the low income. He suggested
that the families that are displaced should be provided with temporary
housing to allow them the opportunity to find another residence and the cost
should be passed on to the owner of the property that had to be abated.
5. Noted that the VFW is asking for donations to replace flags and poles that
have been stolen.
6. Suggested that local citizens drive by the apartments at 283 North Main
Street and see the type of slums that some of the landlords have in this City
and the tenants that are caught in the middle.
7. Noted that the traffic light has taken two years to be installed at Highway 74
and stated his surprise that there has not been a major accident at that site.
8. Noted that if the Council wishes to continue to allow the Mayor and RDA
Chair to attend meetings with our staff they should be required to provide a
report as to what was discussed to inform the rest of Council.
9. Had a great time at the Stadium for the 4t" of July.
( 8. Addressed the issue of TMC that was in the paper and stated that the City
'\ has a professional staff and makes very good decisions.
9. Stated that he feels that there should not be any street closures, however he
does understand the feelings of the people in Tuscany Hills. He stated that
he has a different opinion and does not like to see public streets closed.
Councilwoman Brinley commented on the following:
1. Commended Lake Elsinore Entertainment for the good job that they did for
the 4t" of July.
2. Thanked the Chamber of Commerce for the Street Faire held both Saturday
and Sunday of last weekend. She stated that she heard it was a big success
and has grown each month.
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3. Addressed the Woman's Club and stated her support and agreed that the
Banner Ordinance does need to be reviewed. She explained the purpose of
the Banner Ordinance and past history that caused this ordinance to be
passed.
4. Addressed the resident of the apartments at 283 N. Main Street and
explained that the extension was granted to allow the residents time to
relocate. She explained that the Council is concerned and they do care,
however Council cannot allow people to live in sub - standard conditions.
She noted the responsibility of the landlord to their tenants and explained
that the City would be remiss if they allowed substandard conditions to
continue without taking action. She stated that the Council does care,
however the main responsibility for the care of tenants is with the
owner /landlord and he must be held accountable.
5. Addressed the person who proposed a solar plant. She stated that she read
the portfolio and directed author to make an appointment with City
Manager Watenpaugh. She explained that he will put you in contact with
Todd Olsen, since the project is proposed to be located in the Eastlake
Project area and should be proposed to him prior to presenting it to the City.
6. She asked the City Manager about the article in the newspaper by Todd
Olsen. City Manager Watenpaugh stated that the issue has been resolved.
She stated that TMC is moving forward with the project and the City is
looking forward to a good working relationship with them.
7. Asked City Manager Watenpaugh to explain the funding for the lights in the
tress on Main Street. She gave a history of the lighting of the trees. City
Manager Watenpaugh explained that the funds are Park Capital in Lieu
Funds. He explained that the designated funds cannot be used for other
purposes and cannot be used for maintenance.
8. Stated that the meetings that were attended are reported in the Weekly
Information Memo to update Council.
9. Explained that the only palm trees that will be removed are the ones that
will create a hazard to the electric lines. She noted that there is a relocation
program being formed to take the trees from one area and placed in another.
Mayor Pro Tem Kelley commented on the following:
Thanked Pete Dawson for his contributions to the community and
congratulated him on a job well done.
2. Responded to a Letter to the Editor in the Californian Newspaper regarding
the landscaping around the new library. She clarified County ownership of
the library building and their responsibility for the landscaping. She asked
that the public be patient with the County since they have a lot to
accomplish both on the inside and the outside and will be attending to these
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items as they can.
Invited the public to the Ribbon Cutting Ceremony for the new Library on
Monday, July 20, 1998, at 4:00 p.m. She explained that this will be a soft
opening to get things off the ground. She noted that the Gala Grand
Opening will occur around the 1St of September.
4. She asked that the Library needs volunteers to shelve the books in the new
Library and if anyone is interested they should contact Linda Walsh and she
will delighted to have your help.
Invited the community to attend the 3rd Annual Address to the City
presented by the Mayor. She noted that it is on Wednesday, August 5,
1998, at 7:00 a.m. at the Lake Elsinore Diamond Club, $10.00 a person.
She stated that reservations must be turned into the City by July 28, 1998.
Mayor Pro Tem Kelley commented on the following:
Address to the City presented by the Mayor. She noted that it is on
Wednesday, August 5, 1998, at 7:00 a.m. at the Lake Elsinore Diamond
Club, $10.00 a person. She stated that reservations must be turned into the
City by July 28, 1998.
Mayor Pape commented on the following:
Announced that the U.S. Post Office collected 6,000 pounds of canned
goods to help the less fortunate in the community. Mayor Pape commended
them for their efforts.
2. He noted that the City Manager and City Attorney are working on the
Banner Ordinance, however it must go through the Planning Commission
first prior to being heard and moved on by Council, however, it is in the
works. He explained the proposed rules for non - profit organizations.
Addressed the issues on 283 North Main Street and explained that the
situation is deplorable and explained the conditions that were found in the
apartments. He hoped that the extra amount of time that was awarded
would allow the tenants who reside in those apartments to find other living
accommodations.
CLOSED SESSION
CONFERENCE WITH LEGAL COUNSEL — EXISTING LITIGATION
(Subdivision (a) of Section 54956.9)
City of Lake Elsinore vs. Lytle Creels Partners — Case #213915 and Koliber
vs. Elsinore Valley Municipal Water District, et al — Case #217976 &
217968.
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The Gorham Company vs. Kanayan Construction/City of Lake Elsinore
Case #307401.
CONFERENCE WITH LEGAL COUNSEL — ANTICIPATED LITIGATION
(Significant exposure to litigation pursuant to subdivision (b) of Section
54956.9) — 1 Case.
CONFERENCE WITH LEGAL COUNSEL — ANTICIPATED LITIGATION
(Initiation of litigation pursuant to subdivision (c ) of Section 54956.9) — 1
Case.
Acting City Attorney Van Blarcom requested closed session discussions as
detailed above and noted that there would be an announcement prior to the
adj ournment.
THE CITY COUNCIL ADJOURNED TO A JOINT CLOSED SESSION
WITH THE REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY BOARD AT 9:12 P.M.
THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING RECONVENED AT 9:45 P.M. WITH
THE FOLLOWING ANNOUNCEMENTS:
With regard to City of Lake Elsinore vs. Lytle Creek Partners — Case
#213915 and Koliber vs. Elsinore Valley Municipal Water District, et al —
Case #217976 & 217968; a status report was provided by staff . No action
taken.
With regard to The Gorham Company vs. Kanayan Construction/City of
Lake Elsinore - Case 9307401; the City Council unanimously directed the
City Attorney to go forward with the case.
With regard to Anticipated Litigation under 54956.9 (b) there was no action
taken.
With regard to Anticipated Litigation under 54956.9 ( c ) the City Council
unanimously authorized the City Attorney to proceed.
ADJOURNMENT
MOVED BY BRINLEY, SECONDED BY KELLLEY AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO ADJOURN THE REGULAR C Y COUNCIL
MEETING AT 9:46 P.M.
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CALL TO ORDER
The Regular City Council Meeting was called to order by Mayor Pape
at 7:04 p.m.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
The Pledge of Allegiance was led by City Manager Watenpaugh.
INVOCATION
None.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: ALONGI, BRINLEY,
KELLEY, METZE, PAPE
ABSENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: NONE
Also present were: City Manager Watenpaugh, City Attorney Leibold,
Administrative Services Director Boone, Community Development Director
Brady, Senior Planner Villa, Community Services Director Sapp, Assistant to
the City Manager Best, Fire Chief Seabert, Police Lt. Horton, City Engineer
O'Donnell and City Clerk Kasad.
PRESENTATIONS
None.
PUBLIC COMMENTS — AGENDIZED ITEMS
Requests were received to address the following item and deferred to that
discussion:
Item No. 32.
CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS
The following items were pulled from the Consent Calendar for further discussion
and consideration:
Item Nos. 4, 5, 6 and 8.
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MOVED BY BRINLEY, SECONDED BY METZE AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO APPROVE THE BALANCE OF THE CONSENT
CALENDAR AS PRESENTED.
1. The following Minutes were approved:
a. Regular City Council Meeting — June 23, 1998 (F:44.4)
The following Minutes were received and ordered filed:
b. Planning Commission Meeting — July 1, 1998. (F:60.3)
C. Design Review Committee Meeting — July 1, 1998. (F:60.4)
2. Ratified Warrant List for July 15, 1998. (F:12.3)
3. Received and ordered filed the Investment Report for May, 1998. (F:12.5)
7. Adopted Resolution Nos. 98 -23 to 98 -27 Confirming Fiscal Year 1998 -99
Special Assessments in AD 87 -2,. AD 89 -1, AD 86 -1, AD 90 -1A and AD
93- 1.(F:22.3)
RESOLUTION NO. 98 -23
A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF LAKE
ELSINORE REQUESTING THE TAX COLLECTOR OF THE
COUNTY OF RIVERSIDE TO PLACE ASSESSMENTS ON THE
BILLS OF CERTAIN PROPERTIES. (ASSESSMENT DISTRICT
NO. 87 -2 — SHOPPERS SQUARE).
RESOLUTION NO. 98-24
A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF LAKE
ELSINORE REQUESTING THE TAX COLLECTOR OF THE
COUNTY OF RIVERSIDE TO PLACE ASSESSMENTS ON THE
BILLS OF CERTAIN PROPERTIES. (ASSESSMENT DISTRICT
NO. 89- 1 - SUMMERHILL BRIDGE IMPROVEMENTS).
RESOLUTION NO. 98 -25
A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF LAKE
ELSINORE REQUESTING THE TAX COLLECTOR OF THE
COUNTY OF RIVERSIDE TO PLACE ASSESSMENTS ON THE
BILLS OF CERTAIN PROPERTIES. (ASSESSMENT DISTRICT
NO. 86 -1 — NORTHWEST SEWER DISTRICT).
RESOLUTION NO. 98 -26
A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF LAKE
ELSINORE REQUESTING THE TAX COLLECTOR OF THE
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COUNTY OF RIVERSIDE TO PLACE ASSESSMENTS ON THE
BILLS OF CERTAIN PROPERTIES. (ASSESSMENT DISTRICT NO.
90 -1A — SUMMERHILL PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS).
RESOLUTION NO. 98-27
A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF LAKE
ELSINORE REQUESTING THE TAX COLLECTOR OF THE
COUNTY OF RIVERSIDE TO PLACE ASSESSMENTS ON THE
BILLS OF CERTAIN PROPERTIES. (ASSESSMENT DISTRICT
NO. 93 -1— COTTONWOOD HILLS PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS).
PUBLIC HEARING
21. CR & R, Inc. — Request to Put Refuse Billing on Fiscal Year 1998 -99 Tax
Roll. — Resolution No. 98 -22. (F:163.1)(X:68.1)
City Manager Watenpaugh highlighted this item and noted the original
agreement in June of 1992 to provide waste management and trash
collection in the City. He explained that due to collection problems the City
Council approved putting delinquent bills on the tax rolls in July of 1998.
Mayor Pape noted that for most residents this will have no impact. Mayor
Pape opened the public hearing at 7:06 p.m., asking those persons interested
in this item to speak. The following person spoke:
Dick Knapp City Treasurer, indicated that he would like to establish a
policy that would require only a telephone call to have bills removed from
the tax rolls. He further indicated that he would like to prevent keeping a
bill on the tax rolls indefinitely. He questioned the amount of fees and
charges when bills are placed on the tax roll.
Hearing no additional requests to speak, the public hearing was closed at
7:08 p.m.
Councilman Metze questioned Mr. Fahrion with regard to putting people
back on regular payment plans. Mr. Fahrion confirmed that could occur,
but noted that the policy has been once an account is delinquent and on the
tax roll, it would stay there for the next year. He clarified that there are no
additional fees added when a bill is placed on the tax rolls.
MOVED BY BRINLEY, SECONDED BY METZE AND CARRIED BY,
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO ADOPT RESOLUTION NO. 98 -22 TO PLACE
ALL 120 DAYS DELINQUENT RESIDENTIAL ACCOUNTS AS OF
JULY 19 1998 ON THE PROPERTY TAX ROLLS.
BUSINESS ITEMS
31. Second Reading — Ordinance No. 1039 — Community Facilities District
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98 -1. (F:22.3)
City Manager Watenpaugh explained the intent of this Ordinance.
MOVED BY BRINLEY, SECONDED BY METZE TO ADOPT
ORDINANCE NO. 1039 UPON FIRST READING BY TITLE ONLY.
ORDINANCE NO. 1039
AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF
LAKE ELSINORE ACTING AS THE LEGISLATIVE BODY OF
COMMUNITY FACILITIES DISTRICT NO. 98 -1 AUTHORIZING
THE LEVY OF A SPECIAL TAX.
UPON THE FOLLOWING ROLL CALL VOTE:
AYES: COUNCILMEMBERS: BRINLEY, KELLEY,
METZE, PAPE
NOES:
COUNCILMEMBERS:
ALONGI
ABSENT:
COUNCILMEMBERS:
NONE
ABSTAIN:
COUNCILMEMBERS:
NONE
32. An Agreement to Develop and Operate an Automobile Dealership. (F:68.1)
City Manager Watenpaugh explained that this is a consideration of an
agreement to operate an automobile dealership. He noted that last year the
City did secure an automobile dealership, Lake Chevrolet, which opened
last February. He explained that the item before Council is a consideration
of another automobile dealership by Jim Crowley of North County Ford.
He further explained that the proposed agreement is similar to the
agreement between the City and Lake Chevrolet and would provide
reimbursements for public improvements and public benefits for a
maximum of $300,000 which will come from revenues that the dealership
generates based on a formula of sales -tax. City Manager Watenpaugh
explained that the dealership would have to generate at least $50,000, the
dealer would get the next $150,000 and then the City would split anything
over that amount. He noted that the only other change was the fagade.
City Attorney Leibold noted that the agreement requires that the automobile
dealership comply with certain ongoing covenants that go with the land,
which includes certain maintenance and operations, employment etc. She
explained that in order for the City to have an enforceable mechanism by
which to enforce and be the true beneficiary of these on -going covenants,
the City has to retain some interest in the real property. She further
explained that to facilitate that the City has required a fagade easement
which is an interest in real property that would be owned and held by the
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City in order to enforce these on -going covenants. She further noted that if
there is a failure to comply with any of the covenants there is no payment by
the City under the terms of the agreements.
City Manager Watenpaugh stated that it is staff's recommendation to
approve the Agreement to Development and Operate Auto Dealership and
based on the City Attorney's approval, authorize the Mayor to sign the
Agreement.
Mayor Pape noted that there were two requests to speak and asked the first
person to address the Council.
Dale Hite, 115 N. Kellogg, stated that he heard that the apartment owner
was suing the City for blight caused by the existing auto dealership. He
stated that he is not against bringing auto dealerships into the City, however
he is opposed to zoning changes that will set the City up for civil suits later
on. He stressed that he is against paying them our tax dollars which could
be used to repair our streets, keep our parks green or staff a new fire station.
He noted the amount of civil suits that the City currently has and
questioned the position this could create for the City.
Dick Knapp, City Treasurer, stated that he didn't know that the City was
involved in the landscaping business. He questioned why the City was
getting involved. He further questioned why the City is giving $300,000 to
this dealership, since.the City has already given $300,000 to the Chevrolet
dealership. He questioned the amount of time to pay off the improvements.
He stressed that the dealership should be paying the City.
City Attorney Leibold clarified that part of the benefit to the City and
community is the obligation of the dealer, not only to construct the
dealership in accordance with all permitting requirements that the City
provides and to operate and maintain the dealership in accordance with the
good maintenance standards. She explained that this is for atheistic interest
and in the event the dealer fails to maintain his operation, site, landscaping
or fagade of the building in good condition, then the City has the right to
enforce the obligation. She noted that the City is not undertaking an
obligation, but rather malting requirements that are not in a standard
development agreement.
Councilwoman Brinley stated, that the key issue is what this is going to
bring to our community. She noted that this will increase our tax base and
noted that Lakeside Chevrolet has done better than they expected in the last
two quarters. She noted that this will provide jobs locally and feels that this
is a win/win situation. She stated that this auto dealership will be a real
asset to the community and shows that we are growing.
Councilman Alongi stressed that he was in favor of Lake Chevrolet,
however he was opposed to the separation of the properties. He read an
article he received at the League of California Cities regarding investments.
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He noted that Lake Chevrolet was a good investment and promoted
improvements to the streets as well as providing sewer and water to the
area. He stressed the fact that the City has already spent $300,000 on the
area to make it a prime location and he felt that the City should not spend
any more on improvements as an enticement. He further stressed that the
City should study their values in regard to property and that there is no need
to reinvest in prime locations. Councilman Alongi noted that he did not
receive the Auto Dealership contract until today at 12:00 p.m. and he felt
that the Council should put this item aside and hold a Study Session to
allow opportunity to make proper consideration. He explained that he
would like to see another dealership in the area, however if this one doesn't
work out another one will be along. He commented that the City of Lake
Elsinore has the Whisky Pete's of the I -15. He explained that no other city
on the I -15 has that opportunity. Councilman Alongi noted that on Page 7,
Section 4 does not refer to the $50,000 the City should receive and he does
not see where that fact is mentioned. He stated that the City is entitled to all
of the sales tax and the dealership must conform to all of the City, County,
State and Federal codes in order to build. He noted that the City of Lake
Elsinore has a graffiti program and he is sure that if the dealership moves in
and spends $10,000,000 they will not have graffiti on their walls. He
further noted that a successful dealership must maintain their landscaping to
remain successful and the City does not need to be involved in this. He
stressed that the City should attract the businesses, let them build and then
we collect the money to provide services to the City residents. He further
stressed that he feels that this Agreement is bribery and the City does not
need to operate on that level. He stated that having the landscaping
maintained is not done by putting it in writing, what does make it happen is
the desire to have a successful business. Councilman Alongi stated that the
reason that this is not. a Redevelopment Project is because it is against the
law for the RDA to give away sales tax, therefore the City is stepping in
because they can give away the sales tax. He further stated that the City
does not need to give the Ford Dealership anything, since the City has
already contributed to the area to establish it and the pad is already done,
therefore there is no expense for them to have incentives.
Mayor Pape clarified that the topic of discussion is a proposal for a Ford
Dealership to be built next to the Chevrolet Dealership. He noted that one
of the issues being discussed is in regard to the public improvements. He
noted that if the City had the money we would have already done the
improvements, however due to the City's current fiscal situation, we have
asked that the developer pay for the improvement and the City will
reimbursement them from the money that they generate. He noted that there
is no commitment to give the developer any money from the City's reserve
funds. He stated that if they don't generate the dollars, they don't get any
money back He noted that if their project figures are correct, the City will
be receiving 100% of the sales tax within approximately 2 1/2 years. Mayor
Pape noted that the property tax is not the issue and will be paid in full. He
further noted the increment of property tax, which will benefit the RDA as
well as the jobs that will be generated from this business.
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City Attorney Leibold clarified the first $50,000 of the tax revenues that
will come to the City is found in the Definition of Distributable Sales Tax
Revenues and explained the meaning. She noted that part of the problems
that the community has seen is the failure of the some of the past
agreements to address ongoing maintenance and operation of landscaping.
She noted that by including that item in the current agreement it gives the
City the right to enforce performance. She explained that if the dealer fails
to perform there is no financial assistance provided.
Councilman Metze noted the maximum is five years and then the 100% of
the sales tax will belong to the City. He further noted that it is not currently
on the tax rolls and the property is not generating any money. He explained
that if we want to have another fire station, then the City needs these
businesses to generate the money for staffing. He noted that in the past no
one came to complain about the zone change during the public hearing and
there is not a legal leg to stand if someone decided to file a lawsuit, since no
one protested at the public hearing. Councilman Metze addressed
comments regarding the auto dealerships only generating "low income" jobs
and stated that several of the people who work at auto dealerships make
good money and not just minimum wage. He noted that other cities give tax
incentives and it is not just our community. He stated that we need these
type of businesses for our community.
Mayor Pro Tem Kelley concurred with Councilman Alongi regarding the
need to look at intelligent and prudent investments. She presented some
figures of tax revenue generated by the Chevrolet dealership and explained
that it is a prudent investment by the City.
Councilwoman Brinley asked the City Attorney to clarify Camelot
Properties problem with landscape enforcement and why it was so
important to insure for enforcement in new contracts.
City Attorney Leibold explained that part of the issue was caused by
previous agreements the City entered into which made obligations to
construct, however did not address on -going operations and maintenance of
landscaping. She noted that the current contract before Council insures that
the City has the right to require operations and maintenance of landscaping
and the right to enforce those obligations.
Councilwoman Brinley thanked the City Attorney for the clarification and
stated that she felt that this was a necessary addition to the contracts.
MOVED BY BRINLEY, SECONDED BY METZE TO APPROVE THE
AGREEMENT TO DEVELOP AND OPERATE AUTO DEALERSHIP
WITH JAMES CROWLEY IN SUBSTANTIALLY THE FORM
PRESENTED TO THE CITY COUNCIL AND AUTHORIZE THE MAYOR
TO EXECUTE THE AGREEMENT UPON FINAL APPROVAL BY THE
CITY ATTORNEY.
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Councilman Alongi stated that this issue is a general investment and not
bonds. He does not question the amount of money that the dealership can
generate, however he questions why the City is taking this action at all. He
noted that it could amount to $300,000 that could be put into the parks in
the City or other services. He noted that there are no public improvements
that need to be placed in that area since the curb, gutters, sidewalks, water
line and other utilities are already in place. He stated that the City has
already paid for those things. He noted that there is no guarantee that the
Ford Dealership will do the same volume of business that the Chevrolet
Dealership does. He noted that the incentives have been done and the
company that uses that site will not have to do the off -site improvements,
deal with the Water District, or grade the pad for development since all of
that has been done. Councilman Alongi stated that the City creates
contracts that they do not have any way to enforce. He explained that it
does not put any money in the City's pockets. He noted that the City does
not need to give them $300,000, "since they are welcome to look elsewhere
and he is sure there are other dealerships that would be interested if the Ford
Dealership is not. Lake Chevrolet was a good investment since they were
the first to come into the area and develop as well as the Outlet Center. He
further noted that the City has done their job and created an area for
development and now it is ready and the City should not invest more in the
site since it is now Lip to the business community.
Mayor Pape stated that the anyone who builds on that pad still needs to deal
with EVMWD and meet their requirements. He further stated that the
current situation before Council is a vacant lot that is sitting and pushing up
weeds, or considering someone who is looking to come to this City and
generate income and jobs for the City. He asked which one is going to put
money in the City's coffers to provide services.
THE FOREGOING MOTION WAS APPROVED BY A 4 TO 1 VOTE,
WITH ALONGI CASTING THE DISSENTING VOTE.
Councilman Alongi stated that he opposed the project due to the $300,000.
ITEMS PULLED FROM THE CONSENT CALENDAR
4. Agreement for Consulting Services for Engineering and Financial Services
— Special Districts — Harris & Associates. (F:68.1)
City Manager Watenpaugh explained this item, explaining that the reason
for the request is that the lead individual has changed jobs and relocated;
and staff feels that he has good familiarity with the existing Lighting and
Landscape Maintenance District and the Community Facilities Districts. He
further noted that the proposed contract is about a 10% reduction from the
previous contract.
Councilman Alongi noted that he pulled this item because we do business
with companies before they are good companies with good employees. He
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indicated that the records stay with the company; and he would not see
changing companies. He noted the potential that the costs could be kicked
- up next year. He suggested that this was not a good set of reasons for
changing companies,-as the City has been with the company for quite some
time.
Mayor Pape noted that he had similar questions and discussed them with the
City Manager; and explained that the current company was notified of this
change, did not respond and seemingly had no interest in keeping the City's
business.
Councilwoman Brinley noted item 3.2 with regard to revised rate schedule
and indicated that there was a need for clarification of the time and fashion
for review. She indicated that such adjustment should be effective annually
on the later of 30 days after January. She inquired if 30 days would be
adequate or if 60 days would be better in the event a change is needed. City
Attorney Leibold noted that either party can terminate without cause with
30 days notice.
Councilwoman Brinley suggested modification of the 30 days to 60 days in
Section 3.3.
Mayor Pro Tern Kelley noted that the City has dealt with Mr. Cooper for the
last 10 years and he has done all of the financial services for the CFD's.;
and the City has been happy with the service. She stressed that this was a
reduction and would maintain consistency. Councilwoman Brinley
reiterated that Berryman & Heniger has made no proposal.
MOVED BY BRINLEY, SECONDED BY KELLEY TO APPROVE THE
AGREEMENT WITH MODIFICATIONS TO SECTIONS 3.2 AND 3.3.
Councilman Alongi noted that the discussions with the former firm were not
mentioned in the packet. He suggested if he had known this information
there would have been no need for discussion tonight. He stressed the need
to have all of the information before the City Council.
THE FOREGOING MOTION CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE.
5. Award of Contract - Dexter Avenue & State Route 74 (Central Avenue) —
DBX Company- $112,586.00. (F:162.4)
Mayor Pape noted that this item relates to the new traffic signal at
Dexter /Hwy. 74 near Temescal Canyon High School. City Manager
Watenpaugh noted that he received questions about the funding for this
signal, and advised that it will be funded 50% by Caltrans, 1 /3`a by the City
and 1 /6`x' by the County. He explained that in addition to this bid for
installation, there would be about $3,500 for inspection of the site.
Councilman Alongi indicated that he knows the signal is important, but
questioned why the City was taking the lead on it instead of Caltrans.
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Mayor Pape indicated that it can be processed more quickly if the City leads
the effort. City Manager Watenpaugh explained that 1 -1/2 years ago the
City tools the position that since the Caltrans process was slow, staff was
directed to take the lead in getting the project resolved and funded. He
stressed that the City tools the lead based on complaints by residents and the
School District or the project would have taken longer to get to this point.
MOVED BY ALONGI, SECONDED BY METZE TO AWARD THE
CONTRACT TO DBX COMPANY IN THE AMOUNT OF $112,586.00.
Mayor Pro Tem Kelley inquired, upon approval, how long before the light
would be functional and whether it would be in September. City Engineer
O'Donnell indicated that it would probably be early November of this year.
Councilman Alongi inquired if there was any way the City could expedite
this project by contacting the Board of Supervisors. Mr. O'Donnell
indicated the staff will try to fast track the project, but there are two
outstanding issues to coordinate with Burger King. He noted that another
issue is the ordering of the necessary poles. Councilman Alongi inquired if
there is a program to allow for portable lights if the project doesn't move
quickly enough. Mr. O'Donnell noted that there is a need to place a storm
drain through there and they may have to move poles; and staff is trying to
do the whole project in one shot without additional costs. He further noted
that Burger King should be ready to move forward now and they will work
on it as soon as possible.
THE FOREGOING MOTION CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE.
6. Contract for Water Engineering Services - Psomas & Associates.
(F:68.1)
City Manager Watenpaugh explained that this item was approved in the last
closed session, to pursue research on water rights.
Councilman Alongi indicated that there is no problem with the agreement,
but the Water District has a different agenda for the area; and they don't
care about our development, they only care about the ability to store water.
He indicated that his concern is that life changes and people move on, so he
doesn't feel comfortable putting the responsibility and authority on the City
Manager. He suggested that there should be some form of a Council
committee to oversee this work, and stressed that the Council will be held
responsible if there is a problem. He further suggested that there should
have been a study session on this agreement and noted a past City Manager
quite a few years ago who got the Council into difficult situations. He
requested that the Council add verbiage to have a Council committee with
regard to this issue and change the "City Manager" approve to "Council
Committee ".
Mayor Pape noted that this is a short term contract for a review and
recommendation and concurred that the Water District has a different
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agenda. City Attorney Leibold added that the City Manager, City Attorney,
etc. would have to act at the behest of the majority of the Council anyway.
She suggested that if the Council had an issue with the documentation, the
staff would act appropriately. She noted the potential for problems with a
City Council sub- committee. Councilman Metze concurred that this
contract is only for 60 days. Councilman Alongi concurred that it was
short term, but expressed concern that it could become long term. He
stressed that the Council should make the decisions on City business and
suggested that there would be no notification or approval by the Council for
an extension. He indicated that he was trying not to disagree, but a member
of the Council should be part of the deciding body before moving forward,
and suggested that at least the Mayor should participate in the
decisionmaking process. Mayor Pape suggested that this person would be
working closely with our attorneys and they would return to Council if
further action is necessary. Councilman Metze indicated that if this was to
be a longer term arrangement, he would concur with Councilman Alongi
and appoint a committee, but not under these circumstances. City Attorney
Leibold clarified that if there was a need to extend the contract or the scope
of services, it would require an amendment to the agreement with the
approval by the consultant and the City Council, as that ability is not
delegated to the City Manager. Mayor Pro Tern Kelley added that Mr.
Thornton is very reputable in this field with over 28 years of experience,
and noted that he has experience from reclaimed water to water supply, etc.
MOVED BY BRINLEY, SECONDED BY KELLEY TO APPROVE THE
AGREEMENT WITH PSOMAS AND ASSOCIATES TO PROVIDE
SERVICES RELATED TO THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE WATER
RIGHTS, IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $15,000.
Councilman Alongi indicated that he was not questioning the man's
competence, but stressed the importance of being cautious.
THE FOREGOING MOTION CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE.
8. Resolutions Confirming Fiscal Year 1998 -99 Special Taxes CFD 91 -2
(Summerhill Public Improvements) CFD 88 -3 (West Lake Elsinore Public
Improvements), CFD 90 -3 (North Lake Elsinore Hills Public
Improvements) — Resolution Nos. 98 -28 — 98 -31. (F:22.3)
City Manager Watenpaugh highlighted this item, which is an annual action
to confirm the annual levies of taxes.
Councilman Alongi indicated that he will vote no on anything about CFD
88 -3 until the fire station is built.
MOVED BY METZE, SECONDED BY KELLEY AND CARRIED BY A
VOTE OF 4 T I WITH ALONGI CASTING THE DISSENTING VOTE TO
ADOPT RESOLUTION NOS. 98 -28 THRU 98 -31 CONFIRMING THE,
ANNUAL ASSESSMENTS.
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RESOLUTION NO. 98 -28
A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF LAKE
ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA REQUESTING THE TAX COLLECTOR
OF THE COUNTY OF RIVERSIDE TO PLACE SPECIAL TAXES
ON THE BILLS OF CERTAIN PROPERTIES. (COMMUNITY
FACILITIES DISTRICT NO. 91 -2 — SUMMERHILL PUBLIC
IMPROVEMENTS)
RESOLUTION NO. 98 -29
A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF LAKE
ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA REQUESTING THE TAX COLLECTOR
OF THE COUNTY OF RIVERSIDE TO PLACE SPECIAL TAXES
ON THE BILLS OF CERTAIN PROPERTIES. (COMMUNITY
FACILITIES DISTRICT 88 -3 — WEST LAKE ELSINORE PUBLIC
IMPROVEMENTS)
RESOLUTION NO. 98 -30
A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF LAKE
ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA REQUESTING THE TAX COLLECTOR
OF THE COUNTY OF RIVERSIDE TO PLACE SPECIAL TAXES
ON THE BILLS OF CERTAIN PROPERTIES. (COMMUNITY
FACILITIES DISTRICT NO. 90 -3 — NORTH LAKE ELSINORE
PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS)
RESOLUTION NO. 98 -31
A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF LAKE
ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA REQUESTING THE TAX COLLECTOR
OF THE COUNTY OF RIVERSIDE TO PLACE SPECIAL TAXES
ON THE BILLS OF CERTAIN PROPERTIES. (COMMUNITY
FACILITIES DISTRICT NO. 95 -1— LAKE ELSINORE CITY
CENTER PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS)
THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING WAS RECESSED AT 8:10 P.M.
THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING RECONVENED AT 8:14 P.M.
PUBLIC COMMENTS — NON - AGENDIZED ITEMS
Rene Cabahug, 27 Corte Madera, addressed the potential of Solar Electric Power
Plant in the City of Lake Elsinore and asked that the City issue a permit for him to
build his Power Plant.
Mike Bertetto, 1241 Parkway, stated that he felt that the Building Department
used intimidation when he approached the City to make improvements on his
property. He further stated that he purchased a HUD home and has been making
repairs. He explained that he is an owner /builder and is in the process of
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enclosing a patio and it tools approximately eight visits to the Building
Department to gain his permit. He stated that he wrote Council a letter and asked
that they look into the matter to prevent this type of incident from happening to
other people.
Roger Bloom, 32810 Keel Drive, questioned if there was going to be a fire station
built on the West End of the City and asked that Council explain what the intent
is.
Leroy Tucker, 3532 Cherry Blossom Lane, asked if Council is considering a
Skateboard Park for the youth. He stated that he approached Council last year
regarding this issue and asked if any further thought had gone into this project.
CITY MANAGER COMMENTS
City Manager Watenpaugh commented on the following:
Addressed the Palm Trees and stressed that Council has adopted a policy
regarding the trees and their preservation. He noted that the larger palm
trees are causing a problem and if a palm tree is topped it dies and therefore
it is necessary to remove them. He noted that as many trees as possible will
be relocated to CFD landscape projects and will be kept in the City on City
owned property.
2. Noted the improvements that are to be made on Mission Trail from Malaga
to Corydon through funding allocations from CDBG funds. He explained
that this project is being done in cooperation with the County.
Commented on a meeting with the Interim General Manager Laughlin for
EVMWD and explained that it was a very positive meeting and he hopes
that the Water District and the City can resolve some of the issues that have
affected the City.
4. Addressed the Skate Board Park and stated that there are no funds allocated
to a Skate Park. He noted that due to the current fiscal situation in the City,
it is hard for staff to justify a facility unless it can pay its own way.
5. Confirmed that the City is in the process of opening a portion of the City
Campground by Labor Day. He noted that the City meets the State
Requirements and that as the Campground generates income, further
improvements can be made at Council's direction.
6. Invited Mr. Bloom to come in and discuss the Fire Station on the West End.
He noted that the City does own the property and money to build the Fire
Station, however the money cannot be used to staff the Fire Station and
Council has asked staff to consider funding for staffing the Station. He
explained that it will not be possible for at least a year, however staff is
working on this issue.
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CITY ATTORNEY COMMENTS
City Attorney Leibold advised that there were five Closed Session items
listed, however there Js no need to meet on three of the items, therefore she
announced only two items that Council would be considering as follows:
A. City of Lake Elsinore vs. Lytle Creels Partners and Koliber vs.
Elsinore Valley Municipal District.
B. Conference with Legal Counsel — Anticipated Litigation - One case
under Subdivision (b) of Section 54956.9.
CITY COUNCIL COMMENTS
Councilman Metze had no comments.
Councilman Alongi commented on the following:
Instructed Mr. Cabahug to contract the Water District to see what their plans
are for the area he is proposing to place a solar electric generating power
plant.
2. Commented that the Attorney General recognizes five minutes for public
comments and not three minutes, therefore the Mayor can extend the floor if
he so chooses or any Member of Council can yield the floor according to
the Council Policy.
3. Noted that the City has not given a dime to any small business in our
community and the only money that was given was to businesses on Main
Street and those loans were paid back out of their pockets, not through sales
tax. He stated that if the City is going to give money to the big businesses
then the City needs to do the same for small businesses to keep them in the
community.
4. Commented on the League of Cities Conference and how important it is to
attend because it provides superior training for each of the Council
Members.
Commented on the structure of the San Mateo Redevelopment Agency and
the fact that they invested $5,000,000 in housing and noted that if the City
of Lake Elsinore did the same there would not be a slum anywhere in this
town and the City would be well rid of Slumlords.
6. Stated that after making an observation of the left-turn lane into the 76
Station on Grape Street, he determined that must be closed. He stated that
he wished to go on record that he has advised the City to close that left -turn
lane to avoid being sued.
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7. Wished Kevin Jeffries good luck. He explained that he is running for the
Metropolitan Water District.
- -8. Commented that he had attended the Black Arts Festival last Saturday and
stated that the Gospel Singing was wonderful and the barbecue was great
and suggested that the City might want to get involved in this event next
year.
9. Made a plea for flags and poles to replace the ones that have been stolen.
He noted that the organization to contract is the VFW, Post 1508, (909)
674 -4735.
10. Congratulated LEAF on their annual report. He stated that due to the
cooperation from the community by spaying and neutering their cats and
dogs the euthanization number are way down.
11. Commented on a remark that the Mayor made regarding not being able to
serve on the Grand Jury if he was convicted of a felony. He further
commented that is correct, however what he is going through is a civil
matter and is not a criminal matter. He noted that he was called for Jury
Duty and he responded to the summons with a letter explaining that he is
currently going through a court trial; the Clerk of the Court stated that it
was a civil matter and that he had not been convicted of a crime and
therefore he was ordered to appear August 3, to meet his Jury Duty
obligation.
12. Stressed his understanding of Mr. Bertetto's feelings regarding the Building
Department and stated that he will address this issue with the City Manager.
Councilwoman Brinley commented on the following:
1. Concurred with Councilman Alongi regarding the Solar Electric Power
Plant and agreed that EVMWD should be consulted and then the issue
should be brought back to the City Manager and staff.
2. Stated that staff had informed her that the CAP Conference was very
successful. She noted that the program with the youth and RTA is still
moving forward.
3. Addressed the concerns regarding the Building Department and stated that
she will follow up with this issue.
4. Addressed Mr. Bloom's concern regarding the Fire Station on the West
End. She noted that the City is still looking for ways to generate money for
the operation and maintenance of a Fire Station. She stressed that the
money that has been set aside can only be used for Capital Improvements
and not for operations and maintenance. She explained that his concerns do
not go unheard and appreciates his interest.
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5. Addressed the comment regarding USA Properties suing the City and stated
that it is not true and that she recently met with the property manager an no
mention was made of any legal issues.
Mayor Pro Tem Kelley commented on the following:
1. Congratulated the Lake Elsinore School District for another successful CAP
Conference. She apologized that the Council could not attend since there
was a conflict with the League of California Cities Conference. She is
looking forward to attending next year.
2. Announced that the Library is open at the Wells Fargo site and stated that
the soft Grand Opening was a success and asked the public to watch the
newspaper for the date and time of the official Grand Opening Celebration
and asked that everyone plan to attend.
3. Stated that the City is looking at starting a Cultural Arts Commission and
there will be a meeting on Tuesday, August 4, 3:00 p.m., at the Cultural
Center. She stated that it is a scooping session to see if there is any interest
in the community.
Mayor Pape commented on the following:
1. Reminded the community that the paramedics are located at four corners
and are very close to the West End.
2. Mayor Pape stated that in his last statement to Councilman Alongi he had
said that a conviction of Malfeasance of Office precludes someone from
serving on awry.
CLOSED SESSION
A. CONFERENCE WITH LEGAL COUNSEL — EXISTING LITIGATION
(Subdivision (a) of Section 54956.9)
City of Lake Elsinore vs. Lytle Creels Partners — Case #213915 and Koliber
vs. Elsinore Valley Municipal Water District, et al — Case #217976 &
217968.
City of Lake Elsinore vs. All Persons Interested (LAFCO) — Case 4311942.
B. CONFERENCE WITH LEGAL COUNSEL — ANTICIPATED
LITIGATION (Significant exposure to litigation pursuant to subdivision (b)
of Section 54956.9) — 1 Case.
C. CONFERENCE WITH LEGAL COUNSEL — ANTICIPATED
LITIGATION (Initiation of litigation pursuant to subdivision (c ) of Section
54956.9) — 2 Cases.
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City Attorney Leibold announced the above listed closed session items.
THE REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING WAS ADJOURNED TO
CLOSED SESSION AT 8:45 P.M.
THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING RECONVENED AT 9:08 P.M. WITH
THE FOLLOWING ANNOUNCEMENTS:
A. CONFERENCE WITH LEGAL COUNSEL — EXISTING LITIGATION
(Subdivision (a) of Section 54956.9)
City of Lake Elsinore vs. Lytle Creek Partners — Case #213915 and Koliber
vs. Elsinore Valley Municipal Water District, et al — Case #217976 &
217968.
CITY ATTORNEY PROVIDED A STATUS REPORT AND RECEIVED
SETTLEMENT AUTHORIZATION WITH RESPECT TO THE DAMAGES
PORTION BY UNANIMOUS VOTE.
B. CONFERENCE WITH LEGAL COUNSEL — ANTICIPATED
LITIGATION (Significant exposure to litigation pursuant to subdivision (b)
of Section 54956.9) — 1 Case.
CITY COUNCIL UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED A SETTLEMENT OF
PENDING LITIGATION WITH THOMAS BERG & ASSOCIATES IN
CONNECITON WITH ENGINEERING SERVICES ON THE LAKESHORE
DRIVE BRIDGE, SETTLEMENT AMOUNT $13,000.
ADJOURNMENT
MOVED BY METZE, SECONDED BY BRINLEY AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO ADJOURN THE REGULAR CITY COUNCIL
MEETING AT 9:10 P.M.
6
EVIN W. PA E, MAYOR
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
ATTEST:
CITY LERK
CIT`r'. _OF LAKE ELSINORE
MINUTES
REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
183 NORTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA
TUESDAY, AUGUST 11, 1998
CALL TO ORDER
The Regular City Council Meeting was called to order by Mayor Pape at 7:04 p.m.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Mayor Pro Tem Kelley.
INVOCATION
None.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: COUNCILMEMBERS
ABSENT: COUNCILMEMBERS:
ALONGI, BRINLEY, KELLEY,
METZE, PAPE
NONE.
Also present were: City Manager Watenpaugh, City Attorney Leibold,
Administrative Services Director Boone, Community Development Director Brady,.
Community Services Director Sapp, Chief of Police Walsh, Building and Safety
Manager Russell, Recreation and Tourism Manager Edelbrock and City Clerk
Kasad.
PRESENTATIONS
Proclamation -Transportation Now. (F:122.1)
Mayor Pape asked that Susan Hafner, General Manager of RTA and Bob Salchow,
Committee Member of Transportation Now to come to the podium. Mayor Pape
read and presented a proclamation for Transportation Now. Mr. Salchow thanked
the Mayor and City Council for the recognition and explained that tht the majority of
people do not know that the Committee exists. He explained that the efficiency of
the RTA ten years ago does not work today and that is what the Committee is
working on. He further explained that the Committee has worked hard to meet
today's needs and he personally received an eye- opener when he sat the Committee.
He thanked Councilwoman Brinley, who is the Chairwoman of the Committee for
giving him the chance to serve. Mrs. Hafner stated that under the Chairwoman
Brinley's leadership, this Committee is one of the most active coalitions in the RTA
service area. She commented on the great input that this
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Committee has given to the RTA and noted the advocacy in the School Outreach
Program as well as the Welfare to Work program. She further stated that the
community should be proud of this Committee and the work that they are
accomplishing. Mrs. Hafner noted the double digit increases in RTA travelers and
stated that it is a pleasure to work with the community because of the interested
people that are willing to contribute to the program. Councilwoman Brinley thanked
the entire Committee and recognized all the members who sit the Committee. She
recognized the new representative from the School District and noted the efforts to
assist in the Welfare to Work Program.
PUBLIC COMMENTS - AGENDIZED ITEMS
Requests were received to address the following item and deferred to that item:
Item No. 31.
CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS
The following item was pulled from the Consent Calendar for finther discussion and
consideration:
Item No. 5.
MOVED BY BRINLEY, SECONDED BY KELLEY AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO APPROVE THE BALANCE OF THE CONSENT
CALENDAR AS PRESENTED.
The following Minutes were approved: (F: 44.4)
Regular City Council Meeting -July 14, 1998.
The following Minutes were received and ordered filed:
Planning Commission Meeting - July 15, 1998. (F: 60.3)
Design Review Committee Meeting - July 15, 1998. (F: 60.4)
2. Ratified the Warrant List for July 15, 1998. (F: 12.3)
3. Rejected and referred to Claims Administrator for handling, the Claim
Against the City submitted by Bauer, Inc. (CL #98 -32). (F: 52.2)
4. Approved Resolution 98 -32 confirming placement of weed abatement costs on
Property Tax Roll as follows: (F: 166.1)
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RESOLUTION NO. 98-32
A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA,
CONFIRMING AN ITEMIZED WRITTEN REPORT SHOWING COSTS
OF WEED AND RUBBISH ABATEMENT, CONFIRMING THE
ITEMIZED WRITTEN REPORT FOR EACH SEPARATE PARCEL OF
LAND REQUIRED BY SECTION 39574 OF THE GOVERNMENT CODE
OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA, AND PROVIDING THAT THE COSTS
THEREOF ON EACH PARCEL OF LAND SHALL CONSTITUTE A
SPECIAL ASSESSMENT LIEN AGAINST SAID PARCELS OF LAND
PURSUANT TO SECTION 39574 OF THE GOVERNMENT CODE OF THE
STATE OF CALIFORNIA, AND PROVIDING FOR THE FILING OF SAID
ASSESSMENT LIENS AS PROVIDED IN SAID GOVERNMENT CODE.
BUSINESS ITEMS
31. Cultural Arts Committee. (F: 59.1)
City Manager Watenpaugh noted a meeting that was held and the interest that
was shown at the meeting. He highlighted the recommendations.
Councilwoman Kelley stated that the Scoping Session was well attended and
the outcome was very positive. She noted that there were representatives of
the business community, community organizations and the community at
large. She further stated the consensus was that the Committee would be in
partnership with the City and would require limited staff time and use of the
facilities. She stressed that this Committee would start small and focus on
one event at a time, then move forward and increase in the spring. She
explained that the Riverside Arts Foundation will attend the next meeting to
assist. Councilwoman Kelley stressed the advantages of an Arts Council;
noted the people who would participate in the arts; and the impact it would
have on the whole community. She further stressed the need to bring a
vehicle to the community to facilitate talent. She requested that the Council
move forward to continue formation of a Cultural Arts organization, with
limited staff time and use of the facilities and parks on an event by event
basis. She noted that the next meeting will be on August 18, 1998, at 7:00
p.m. at the Cultural Center and they will be presenting the Organizational By-
laws with the help of the Riverside Arts Foundation.
Chris Hyland, 15191 Wavecrest Drive, stated that she has just returned from
Arizona and questioned the use of the facilities. She asked if this would be
without charge. She commented that this would create a lot of use of the
facilities without charging a fee. She stated that she is not against the group;
however, if everyone else is charged, then in her opinion, the City should
place a charge on the Committee.
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Councilwoman Brinley stated that she understood that it was the intent of
Mayor Pro Tern Kelley to provide the facility without charging a rental fee;
however, there would be a fee for cleanup and staff time. She noted that
Council would probably waive fees for the facility as they have done for
others; however, for staff time and maintenance there would be a charge. She
further stated that she would like to see Mayor Pro Tern Kelley remain
Chairwoman to the Committee for at least a year, until the Committee is up
and running and gains a non -profit status.
Councilman Alongi commented that he does not see why this organization
needs Council approval. He stated that they will be free from the City and
will run their own arts program. He noted that it is up to them to appoint their
own Chairperson based on who they would like to see sit in that position. He
stressed that the City is not sponsoring this in any way and the City is not
donating any funds nor buildings. He stated that he is in favor of this type of
organization and would like to see a lot of the children involved. He noted
that this is a very good idea and he encouraged the community to be involved.
Mayor Pro Tem Kelley stated that the reason that she has come to the
Council is because the Committee is asking for staff time. She explained that
Recreation and Tourism Manager Edelbrock is very knowledgeable with the
Arts Council in Escondido and the Committee would like to use her once a
month to coordinate the meetings.
Councilman Alongi indicated that any Councilmember can go to the City
Manager and request staff for such a meeting. He noted that Visions and
Views never came before the Council. He commented that Mayor Pro Tern
Kelley did a great job on the Library without Council input and felt that the
only time that an item should be brought before Council is if the organization
is requesting subsidies from the City.
Councilman Metze concurred with Councilwoman Brinley and stated that he
believes that in the past Members of Council have been chastised for using
staff time and this should be brought before Council. He stated that he does
feel that this is a positive thing; however, staff time and facilities will be
needed to make it work.
Mayor Pape sated that he is looking forward to some concerts under the stars.
MOVED BY PAPE, SECONDED BY BRINLEY AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO APPROVE THE CONTINUED FORMATION OF
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A CULTURAL ARTS ORGANIZATION WITH LIMITED STAFF TIME
AND USE OF FACILITIES AND PARKS FOR CULTURAL EVENTS
WITH MAYOR PRO TEM KELLEY TO BE CHAIRWOMAN FOR THE
FIRST YEAR.
ITEM PULLED FROM THE CONSENT CALENDAR
5. Cost Recovery for Nuisance and Structure Abatement - Resolution No. 98-
33. (F: 32.4)
City Manager Watenpaugh highlighted this annual function of the Council to
forward to the County the placement of the amounts on the tax rolls for cost
recovery for Nuisance and Structure Abatement.
Councilman Alongi explained that he pulled this item because at the last
meeting he had asked the City Attorney if there was any way that the City
could address the placement of families who are displaced from the City's
action. He noted the situation Monday morning on Main and Sumner Streets.
He stated that there were 8 or 9 police cars, he did not know how many
officers, Animal Control and Code Enforcement, with children involved. He
felt that the owner should have been pulled by his neck to see what he has
caused. He expressed concern that there was no place for these people to go
to. He feels that the property owner should be responsible for their property
and should be made to pay for the relocation of the families. He noted that
the City notifies the owner, but not the tenants and they have no knowledge
of what is happening and in a lot of cases these properties are the only places
these people can afford to live in. He stated that he would not live there;
however, if he was in those people's position and it was a choice of having a
roof over his children's heads, then he would probably live there as well. He
noted that the item that is before Council is a very important issue, however it
is also important that the City aggressively going after these properties and
there are families involved and there must be some sort of protection for the
tenants that live there.
MOVED BY ALONGI, SECONDED BY BRINLEY AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO APPROVE THE COST RECOVERY ACTION
AND AUTHORIZED THE PLACEMENT OF COSTS ON THE TAX BILLS
FOR THE PROPERTIES BY RESOLUTION NO. 98-33 AS FOLLOWS:
RESOLUTION NO. 98-33
A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA,
CONFIRMING AN ITEMIZED WRITTEN REPORT SHOWING COST OF
NUISANCE ABATEMENT, CONFIRMING THE ITEMIZED WRITTEN
REPORT FOR EACH SEPARATE PARCEL OF LAND REQUIRED BY
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SECTION 39574 OF THE GOVERNMENT CODE OF THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA, AND PROVIDING THAT THE COSTS THEREOF ON
EACH PARCEL OF LAND SHALL CONSTITUTE A SPECIAL
ASSESSMENT LIEN AGAINST SIAD PARCELS OF LAND PURSUANT
TO SECTION 39574 OF GOVERNMENT CODE OF THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA, AND PROVIDING FOR THE FILING OF SAID
ASSESSMENT LIENS AS PROVIDED IN SAID GOVERNMENT CODE.
THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING WAS RECESSED AT 7:25 P.M.
THE CITY COUNCIL WAS RECONVENED AT 7:27 P.M.
PUBLIC COMMENTS
Pam Johnson, 15025 Zieglinde, stated that she is present as a member of "Friends of
Frank Silva Bone Marrow Drive ", and made special note of the poster on the easel.
She explained that Mr. Silva was born and raised in Lake Elsinore; worked for
Elsinore High School; was voted Employee of the Year in 1997; and in 1997 the
Elsinore High School Year Book was dedicated to Mr. Silva. She explained that in
1992 Mr. Silva diagnosed with Leukemia and after therapy he went into remission.
A short while ago Frank was scheduled for surgery and it was found that had come
out of remission and therapy without a Bone Marrow transplant would not be
effective. She stated that her group is sponsoring a Bone Marrow Drive on August
29, at Elsinore High School, from 10:00 a.m. to 2:00 p.m. Ms. Johnson explained
the process for a bone marrow match and stated that it is believed that it is
necessary to achieve a long -term remission. She stated that they need as many
persons to test as possible, especially Hispanic persons since it is very hard to find a
match. She noted that they need financial support as well to defray the cost of the
tests for anyone that cannot afford it. She noted that the tests for Hispanics and
other minorities will be free and the American Leukemia Society will also assist
with the cost for non - minorities. Councilman Alongi asked how much the tests cost.
Ms. Johnson stated that it costs $40. Councilwoman Brinley suggested that Ms.
Johnson contact Mr. Fred Dominguez and Mr. Pete Vasquez to reach the Hispanic
community.
Chris Hyland, 15191 Wavecrest Drive, noted a couple of Council Meetings ago, this
closure of public parks and public roads for the 4t' of July, was discussed. She
indicated that the entire community pays for the parks and roads and they have the
right to use those facilities. She stated that she has written to the City Manager
regarding the Lighting and Landscaping fees for her tract. She noted that for years
her tract has paid the highest fees in the City and now Tuscany Hills pays the
highest fees. She stated that the trees and landscaping in her area is dying and she
asked where the Lighting and Landscaping fees are being spent. She asked if it is
going to the new car dealerships. She noted that the landscaping in the Centex Tract
is dying as well. She stated that she is sick of her money going to
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nothing but a bunch of white elephants and she wants an answer. She asked all the
citizens to drive around the City and then write or call the City with their opinion.
She indicated that the letter that she wrote to City Manager Watenpaugh has gone
unanswered.
Mike Bertetto, 1241 Park Way, noted that at the last meeting he was held to three
minutes and ran out of time and indicated that this is a continuation of that
statement. He stated that he has experienced negativism regarding his attempt to
enclose an existing patio. He stated that in his opinion the man that runs the
building department is incompetent and noted the information he was given was
wrong and that he had to have the man in charge look up the information to prove to
him that the request he was making was possible. He noted that it is in the Building
Code of the State of California and that the man in charge should know that
information. Councilman Alongi extended the speaker one - minute of time to
complete his statements. Mr. Bertetto indicated that he would skip the 20 incidents
that are listed his letter, and noted that because he wanted to extend the existing
footing over 20 feet he had it engineered. He explained that he was told that he
could not do this, because the Building Manager was looking at just the post
footing. Mayor Pape suggested that if he wished to pursue this further that he
should meet with the City Manager to try and resolve his concerns. Mr. Bertetto
stated that he feels that due to the type of treatment that the Building Department
gives to people, they create Slum Lords.
Donald Ketch, 505 N. Ellis, stressed that the fences at Lakepoint Park need to be
repaired since it is dangerous for the children. He noted that along the fence there
are holes that children can fall through and the drop is about 10 feet. He further
noted there is a need for a crosswalk on Lakeshore Drive in front of the Senior
Center. He explained that he saw a senior get off a bus on the far side of the street
and had to stop in the middle of the road because of traffic before she could get to
the other side where the Senior Center is located. He asked that Council consider
these problems.
CITY MANAGER COMMENTS
City Manager Watenpaugh commented on the following:
1. Explained that during his meeting with Mr. Bertetto it was clarified that the
Building and Safety Manager had made a mistake on one issue; it has been
corrected; and there is nothing personal in regard to this; however, he is
competent and deals with the City and State Codes on a uniform basis. He
noted that there are exceptions and Mr. Bertetto's understanding of those
exceptions are not what the exceptions are for and the issues have been
resolved. He noted that Mr. Russell checked the calculations with the
Structural Engineer and after verification, the project was passed. He
stressed that what he takes exception to is the fact that staff and himself
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have spent a lot of time to try and resolve the issues and Mr. Bertetto still
feels that staff has something personal against him. He noted that staff is
working hard to be customer oriented and staff is trying to make it easier for
an owner builder to present his project. He stated that he felt that staff has
handled this issue as well as it is possible to be done and that they are
competent and did do their job. He stressed that staff is seeking methods to
improve the process.
2. It is his pleasure to inform Council that the City Campground is in the process
of opening for Labor Day Weekend, September 4, around noon. He stated
that the public can call City Hall at (909) 674 -3124 X 265, for the rates and
information. He noted that R.V.'s are $20.00 and tent camping is $15.00.
3. Commented on a flyer that was brought to his attention from UNWED. He
explained that there are several inaccuracies in the flyer and he wants the
community to know that. He stressed that the CFD 88 -3 does not pay for
maintenance and operation for a Fire Station and the fact that the interest is
not being used for special interests, nor is the City planning on selling
property proposed for the Fire Station. He stated that if Mr. Gray had
contacted him, he would have been glad to give him the correct information.
He explained that the City plans to move forward with the new Fire Station in
the next year and a half, if the budget permits. He noted that even if the City
had the fire station built and was manned by volunteers, it would still cost
approximately $250,000 to operate the Station. He stressed that the flyer is
incorrect.
CITY ATTORNEY COMMENTS
None.
CITY COUNCIL COMMENTS
Councilman Alongi commented on the following:
Stated that he would make no comment about Mr. Bertetto; however, he
wanted to confirm that he does trust the City Manager and if he tells Council
that it will not happen again, then it won't.
Commented that the Fire Station is a sore point and the money is there,
therefore he would like to see it built and be done with it. He noted the
comment by the Mayor on new revenues and suggested that the money be
spent to man the Station.
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3. Addressed a letter from Mr. Hohngren regarding the pews in the Cultural
Center basement. Councilman Alongi stated that he had made a request for
them a few years ago and noted that they are expensive pews and are not
being reproduced today. He stated that if the City is not going to refinish
them and use them, then they should be auctioned off. He stated that he
would like to see Council take action on this issue before the pews are ruined.
4. He appealed to the residents of the City to have their cats and dogs neutered
and spayed. He noted that in the last LEAF report 114 dogs and 87 cats were
put down.
Commented on Gene Vitamendie's column regarding welfare reform. He
questioned why it is acceptable to hand out money and consider the welfare
of big business and not take care of the little guy. He felt the article was very
accurate.
6. Noted that he has been an adversary to Wal Mart, however Wal Mart donated
$2,500 to HOPE and whether they agree or not he wished to thank them for
their contribution. He noted that the County contributed $20,000 to HOPE.
He stated that HOPE needs men to assist in picking up the food.
7. Stated that it is ama2ing how different the Californian and the Press
Enterprise differ in their reporting. He noted that Californian reported on the
same story and it sounded like a completely different development. He
commented to the Editor of the Californian and stated that he should come to
the meeting and listen to what is said before they edit a story. He further
commented that if the writers come to the meetings and write a story, then it
should be printed in its full context and not should be edited to save room in
the paper. He stated that it is a misleading article in the Californian as to why
the Ford Dealership is getting the money.
Stated that when the Mayor called upon him to lead the Pledge of Allegiance
that he thought the Mayor would bury the hatchet and allow him to go on and
defend him self and deal with the District Attorney. He stated that however
because of the statement that the Mayor made at the last meeting, it clearly
indicates that he wants to continue to have conflict. He stated that he loves to
fight and will do so. He indicated that if he thinks something is right, he is
going to fight for what is right no matter how much it costs. He stated that
the Mayor asked why he was wasting his time since he was only going to be
here a couple more weeks and this shows his ignorance of the judicial system
that we have in this country. He noted that there are a lot of opportunities
afforded to him through the courts, and like any other citi -2en who can afford
it, he is going to take the courts up on it. He stated that if he takes 10 years
or 5 years or however long he feels it
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should take to do it, that is what he is going to do. He further stated that he is
in full control of the situation, the District Attorney is not and the court is not.
He stated that the reason that he is in control is because he can resign at any
time and walk away from the issue and they hold an empty bag. He noted the
amount of money he has spent on this fight, he could not be recovered in 100
years in this City. He stated that he is willing to invest those dollars because
he feels that he is right doing what he did or what he is accursed of
9. Noted the Mayor's Address to the City and the Mayor's comment about not
trusting any level of government and that every level was a crook. He
indicated that the Mayor lied to the citizens when he was the City Treasurer
about the Ball Field and the Lake and he has lied on Council about USA
Properties and the Ford and Chevrolet dealership, however that is acceptable
because he is the Mayor.
10. Noted his request during Closed Session to set Parking on Main Street which
would benefit the community, and was set for a Study Session. He stated
however, that it did not take five minutes for the Council can give $300,000
to the Ford Dealership during that same Closed Session; however, parking
must go to a Study Session. He noted the imbalance on Council.
11. Sated that he will be on Council for a while and noted that he is going to a
hearing on the 101 with a tentative court date on August 31'. He commented
that he doesn't know what will occur because they have not brought the
motions forward. He stated that when he is ready to leave he will leave, but
not before he is ready.
Councilman Metae commented on the followine:
Requested that the City Manager look into Lakepoint Park and the crosswalk
issue. He stated that Mr. Ketch made some good points and that it might be
possible to place a stop sign at that location.
Councilwoman Brinley commented on the following:
Congratulated Joyce Tate, the Senior Center Site Coordinator, on an article
that was done in the newspaper. Noted the programs that she has established
over the last 10 years. She commended Joyce for the wonderful job that she
is doing and asked her to keep up the good work.
2. Noted that Visions and Views will carry the Mayor's State of the City
Address and commented on the positive overview this gives the City.
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3. Noted that Mr. Ketch raised some good pints and asked that the City
Manager look into these concerns. She noted that as issues are brought
forward Council does give direction and staff is very responsive. She
addressed Mr. Bertetto's concerns and stated that the City Manager and Staff
did try to resolve his problems and a permit was issued.
4. Commented on the letter from Mr. Hohngren and requested that the City
Manager and City Attorney to look at the possibility of auctioning the pews
to the public. She asked City Manager to get back to Mr. Hohngren.
5. Addressed the Ford and Chevrolet Dealerships and noted that the amount of
sales tax generated from the first quarter from the Chevrolet Dealership. She
stressed the benefit to the community and noted that the Ford Dealership will
probably be in the top 40 as well. She explained that these businesses
generate jobs and not just low paying jobs. She cited the salary that a
mechanic makes at the Dealership.
6. Addressed the Study Session for Parking on Main Street and stated that a
Study Session was called to give the merchants on Main Street the
opportunity to participate.
Mayor Pro Tern Kelley commented on the following:
Commented on an anonymous letter she received regarding the Street Faire.
She noted that she passed it on to the Chamber of Commerce since it is their
function.
2. Thanked LEAF for taking a 3 foot iguana from her front yard.
Mayor Pane commented on the following:
Noted the Bone Marrow Transplant Drive on August 29, 1998 at Elsinore
High School. He encouraged the community to participate.
2. Thanked the family from Tustin who took the time to write a letter regarduy4
the Lake. He stated that they complimented the City on the Lake, staff and
boat launch. He stated his appreciation to people who write in with positive
things to say.
3. Commented that if James Gray had taken a minute to call the City Manager's
Office he would have saved himself the embarrassment of printing a flyer
with incorrect facts.
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4. He stated that the State of the City Address will be televised on Channel three
and commented that he did spend a few minutes on honesty in public office
and how important it is. He stated that he just felt that if someone was not
guilty, then they would want to go to court and get it over with quickly.
CLOSED SESSION
CONFERENCE WITH LEGAL COUNSEL — ANTICIPATED LITIGATION
(Initiation of litigation pursuant to subdivision ( C ) of Section 54956.9) — 1 Case.
City Attorney Leibold announced one case of anticipated litigation.
THE CITY COUNCIL ADJOURNED TO CLOSED SESSION AT 8:10 P.M.
Councilman Alongi noted the loss of Jess Rodrigue ,2.
THE CITY COUNCIL RECONVENED AT 8:15 P.M. WITH THE
FOLLOWING ANNOUNCEMENT:
By a vote of 3 to 2 with Councilman Alongi and Mayor Pro Tern Kelley
casting the dissenting votes. The Council majority directed the City Attorney
to initiate litigation, actions, parties and substance to be identified once
commenced.
ADJOURNMENT
MOVED BY METZE, SECONDED BY KELLEY AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO ADJOURN THE REGULAR CITY COUNCIL
MEETING AT 8:16 P.M.
6&
VIN W. PAPE. MAYOR
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
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CKIASAD, CITY CLERK
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
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MINUTES
REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
183 NORTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA
TUESDAY, AUGUST 25, 1998
CALL TO ORDER
The Regular City Council Meeting was called to order by Mayor Pape at 7:05 p.m.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Mayor Pro Tern Kelley.
INVOCATION
The Invocation was presented by Father George Gonzales representing Saint
Francis of Rome Catholic Church.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: KELLEY, METZE, PAPE
ABSENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: ALONGI, BRINLEY
Also present were: City Manager Watenpaugh, City Attorney Leibold,
Administrative Services Director Boone, Community Development Director Brady,
Assistant to the City Manager Best, Recreation and Tourism Manager Edelbrock,
Public Works Manager Payne, City Engineer O'Donnell, Chief of Police Walsh,
Sergeant Brinkman, Fire Chief Seabert, and Deputy City Clerk Bryning.
PUBLIC COMMENTS - AGENDIZED ITEMS
There was a request to address the following item:
Item Nos. 3 and 32.
CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS
The following item was pulled from the Consent Calendar for further discussion and
consideration:
Item No. 3.
MOVED BY KELLEY, SECONDED BY METZE AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO APPROVE THE
BALANCE OF THE CONSENT CALENDAR AS PRESENTED.
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Councilman Metze stated that he felt that this was a good project and noted
that all the buildings are full even before they are built.
Mayor Pape stated that this is a positive project and noted the size of the
buildings. He explained that some of the businesses that are going into the
buildings are expansions of existing businesses. He noted that Wieland
Precision Machine is adding 10 new jobs and the other businesses will
increase employment by 20 positions. He stressed the need for this type of
positive projects.
Mayor Pro Tem Kelley stated her pleasure at having this type of project come
before Council and welcomed this addition to the Business Park.
MOVED BY METZE, SECONDED BY KELLEY AND CARRIED BY A
UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO APPROVE INDUSTRIAL
PROJECT 98 -2, RE- CERTIFY NEGATIVE DECLARARTION NO. 89 -269
BASED ON FINDINGS AND CONDITIONS AS FOLLOWS:
FINDINGS:
Subject to the attached Conditions of Approval the proposed project is
not anticipated to result in any significant adverse environmental
impacts.
2. The project as proposed complies with the Goals, Objectives, and
policies of the General Plan, and the Zoning District in which it is
located.
3. Conditions and safeguards pursuant to Chapter 17.82.070 of the
Zoning Code, including guarantees and evidence of compliance with
conditions, have been incorporated into the approval of the subject
project to ensure development of the property in accordance with the
Objectives of Chapter 17.82.
CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL
PLANNING DIVISION
Design Review approval for Industrial Project No. 98 -2 will lapse and
be void unless building permits are issued within one (1) year of City
Council approval. An extension of time, up to one (1) year per
extension, may be granted by the Community Development Director
prior to the expiration of the initial Design Review approval upon
application by the developer one (1) month prior to expiration.
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2. Conditions of approval shall be reproduced on page one of building
plans prior to their acceptance by the Building Division. All
Conditions of Approval shall be met prior to the issuance of a
Certificate of Occupancy and release of utilities.
3. All site improvements approved with this request shall be constructed
as indicated on the approved site plan and elevations. Revisions to
approved site plans or building elevations shall be subject to the review
of the Community Development Director. All plans submitted for
Building Division Plan Check shall conform to the submitted plans as
modified by Conditions of Approval, or the Planning Commission/City
Council through subsequent action.
4. All roof mounted or ground support air conditioning units or other
mechanical equipment incidental to development shall be
architecturally screened or shielded by landscaping so that they are not
visible from neighboring property or public streets. Any roof mounted
central swamp coolers shall also be screened, and the Community
Development Director, prior to issuance of building permit shall
approve screening plan.
Applicant shall comply with the requirements of the Elsinore Valley
Municipal Water District. Proof shall be presented to the Chief
Building Official prior to issuance of building permits and final
approval.
6. All exterior on -site lighting shall be shielded and directed on -site so as
not to create glare onto neighboring property and streets or allow
illumination above the horizontal plane of the fixture.
7. All loading zones shall be clearly marked with yellow striping and shall
meet City Standards for loading zones. This project shall be designed
so that every unit is provided with a 12' X 20' (twelve -foot by twenty-
foot) loading space as required by the City Municipal Code.
8. the Planning Division shall approve construction trailers utilized during
construction.
9. All exterior downspouts shall be painted to match the building color.
10. Materials and colors depicted on the materials board shall be used
unless modified by the Community Development Director or designee.
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11. Prior to issuance of building permits, applicant shall pay park -in -lieu
fee in effect at time of building permit issuance.
12. Prior to issuance of building permits, applicant shall provide assurance
that all requirements of Riverside County Fire Department have been
met.
13. Prior to issuance of building permits, applicant shall pay park -in -lieu
fee in effect at time of building permit issuance.
14. The Community Development Director or designee shall approve any
signage in compliance with the approved Sign Program.
15. Prior to issuance of building permits, applicant shall provide a soils
report for approval by the Engineering Department.
ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT
16. Industrial Project I No. 98 -2 shall be required to comply with all
applicable conditions of approval for Parcel Map 24751.
17. The finish floor elevation of all structures shall be minimal of one foot
above the adjacent grade.
18. This project shall contribute a pro -rata share for improvements per
conditions 24, 25, and 35 of PM 24751 as follows:
Signalization
$6,760
Median
$9,153
Drainage
$10,098
Total
$26,011
19. Process and meet all lot line adjustment requirements prior to issuance
of building permit. Provide quick claim grant deed for exchange of
title.
20. Pay all Capital Improvement and Plan Check fees (LEMC 16.34, Res.
85 -26)
21. Submit a "Will Serve" letter to the City Engineering Department form
the applicable water agency stating that water and sewer arrangements
have been made for this project. Submit this letter prior to applying for
a building permit.
22. On -site drainage shall be conveyed to a public facility or accepted by
adjacent property owners by a letter of drainage acceptance or
conveyed to a drainage easement.
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23. All natural drainage traversing the site shall be conveyed through the
site, or shall be collected and conveyed by a method approved by the
City Engineer.
24. The applicant to provide FEMA elevation certificates prior to
certificate of occupancies.
25. Precise grading plans shall be prepared by a Registered State of
California Civil Engineer and approved prior to grading permit
issuance. Prior to any grading, the applicant shall obtain a grading
permit and post appropriate security.
32. BP Racine Event Approval. (F:151.1) (X: 92.1)
City Manager Watenpaugh explained that this is a request by Baja
Promotions to relocate their Salton Sea "300" Endurance Race to Lake
Elsinore. He presented a list of the activities that BP Racing has sponsored.
He stressed that it is a request to have a full lake closure and although staff
has been opposed to that action it was felt that because the activity is
scheduled for December which is the off season it would not be a negative
impact to the local businesses. He stated that it is staff's recommendation to
approve the event with full lake closure and "in water refueling" for Saturday,
December 5, 1998.
Pete Dawson, Pro Marine, 18010 Grand Avenue, stated his approval of
events on the Lake and since it brings much needed revenue to the
community. He noted the ski race which was held on the Lake last weekend
and the problems that occurred because the group did not follow -up on their
condition to inform the different launch sites around the Lake and as a
consequence the Lake had to be closed for public safety. He stressed that
because the Marina's around the Lake did not know about the event they
could not inform their customers and when the Lake was closed, it offended
the customers because they had to be turned away. He asked that this
dilemma be addressed to prevent it from occurring again. He stressed his
opposition to full lake closure and explained that closures hurt local business
and asked that Council try to accommodate the public and the events through
a partial lake closure versus a full lake closer. He further explained that the
community has worked so hard to bring dollars into the community and one
of those ways is through boaters. Mr. Dawson stated that the number of
boaters have increased and we have received positive press about our lake
and he does not want to see that change.
Councilman Metze concurred with Mr. Dawson and stated that under normal
circumstances Council does not want full lake closures, however because this
even is scheduled for December it should not damage local businesses. He
stated his concern regarding the lake closure last weekend
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and stressed that he does not want to see that happen again. He stated that he
would like to see a condition added to require the organizer of the event to
distribute fliers to the local marinas to inform them of the upcoming event.
He asked Mr. Lou Peralta, Baja Promotions (BP Racing) if he would be
willing at their expense to distribute fliers, five weeks in advance, to every
launch around the Lake both in the City and County. He wanted Mr. Peralta
to know that Council welcomed his event, but stressed that during the
summer full lake closure would not be considered, however in the winter he
feels that it is acceptable, due to the type of race proposed, to close the Lake.
He clarified his request for the condition. He asked how many participants
that BP Racing anticipated. Mr. Peralta stated that they anticipate from 120
to 180 participants. Councilman Metze asked how many spectators they
expect. Mr. Peralta stated that because the event has been held at Salton Sea
they had approximately 600 to 800, however Lake Elsinore is closer to major
populations he expects to see quite a few more spectators. He further stated
that he does not have a problem with the fliers and they will be working close
with Community Services for this event. He gave past histories of events that
they held and how they handle traffic and safety situations. He noted that
there are very few places where they request full closure of the facilities and
if they were to schedule other events they would not be opposed to a partial
closure and would be happy to work with the City. He explained that they
produce approximately 24 races a year and noted the problems that they have
faced with water traffic and their rule is that public traffic has right -of -way
and the racers must yield.
Mayor Pro Tem. Kelley questioned if it was necessary to close the Lake for
this race. Mr. Peralta stated that they did not ask for full lake closure,
however after his meeting with Community Services Director Sapp and
Sergeant Brinkman it was felt that for the first time a full lake closure would
be best.
City Manager Watenpaugh asked what the hours the race would be. Mr.
Peralta stated that the race begins at 8:00 a.m. and ends at 2:00 p.m. He
explained that this is a 6 hour race and this would allow 2 hours for
emergencies.
Mayor Pape stated that he does not approve of a full lake closure, however
because this event is scheduled in the winter, which is the Lake's off - season,
he has no problem with the closure. He noted that the City could end up with
a lot more people on and around the Lake for this event, than if it was just a
normal weekend. Mr. Peralta stated that their headquarters will be at the
Lake Elsinore Resort and Casino.
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have spent a lot of time to try and resolve the issues and Mr. Bertetto still
feels that staff has something personal against him. He noted that staff is
working hard to be customer oriented and staff is trying to make it easier for
an owner builder to present his project. He stated that he felt that staff has
handled this issue as well as it is possible to be done and that they are
competent and did do their job. He stressed that staff is seeking methods to
improve the process.
2. It is his pleasure to inform Council that the City Campground is in the process
of opening for Labor Day Weekend, September 4, around noon. He stated
that the public can call City Hall at (909) 674 -3124 X 265, for the rates and
information. He noted that R.V.'s are $20.00 and tent camping is $15.00.
Commented on a flyer that was brought to his attention from UNWED. He
explained that there are several inaccuracies in the flyer and he wants the
community to know that. He stressed that the CFD 88 -3 does not pay for
maintenance and operation for a Fire Station and the fact that the interest is
not being used for special interests, nor is the City planning on selling
property proposed for the Fire Station. He stated that if Mr. Gray had
contacted him, he would have been glad to give him the correct information.
He explained that the City plans to move forward with the new Fire Station in
the next year and a half, if the budget permits. He noted that even if the City
had the fire station built and was manned by volunteers, it would still cost
approximately $250,000 to operate the Station. He stressed that the flyer is
incorrect.
CITY ATTORNEY COMMENTS
None.
CITY COUNCIL COMMENTS
Councilman Alongi commented on the following:
Stated that he would make no comment about Mr. Bertetto; however, he
wanted to confirm that he does trust the City Manager and if he tells Council
that it will not happen again, then it won't.
2. Commented that the Fire Station is a sore point and the money is there,
therefore he would like to see it built and be done with it. He noted the
comment by the Mayor on new revenues and suggested that the money be
spent to man the Station.
PAGE NINE CITY COUNCIL MINUTES — AUGUST 11, 1998
3. Addressed a letter from Mr. Hohngren regarding the pews in the Cultural
Center basement. Councilman Alongi stated that he had made a request for
them a few years ago and noted that they are expensive pews and are not
being reproduced today. He stated that if the City is not going to refinish
them and use them, then they should be auctioned off. He stated that he
would like to see Council take action on this issue before the pews are ruined.
4. He appealed to the residents of the City to have their cats and dogs neutered
and spayed. He noted that in the last LEAF report 114 dogs and 87 cats were
put down.
5. Commented on Gene Vitamendie's column regarding welfare reform. He
questioned why it is acceptable to hand out money and consider the welfare
of big business and not take care of the little guy. He felt the article was very
accurate.
6. Noted that he has been an adversary to Wal Mart, however Wal Mart donated
$2,500 to HOPE and whether they agree or not he wished to thank them for
their contribution. He noted that the County contributed $20,000 to HOPE.
He stated that HOPE needs men to assist in picking up the food.
7. Stated that it is amazing how different the Californian and the Press
Enterprise differ in their reporting. He noted that Californian reported on the
same story and it sounded like a completely different development. He
commented to the Editor of the Californian and stated that he should come to
the meeting and listen to what is said before they edit a story. He further
commented that if the writers come to the meetings and write a story, then it
should be printed in its full context and not should be edited to save room in
the paper. He stated that it is a misleading article in the Californian as to why
the Ford Dealership is getting the money.
8. Stated that when the Mayor called upon him to lead the Pledge of Allegiance
that he thought the Mayor would bury the hatchet and allow him to go on and
defend him self and deal with the District Attorney. He stated that however
because of the statement that the Mayor made at the last meeting, it clearly
indicates that he wants to continue to have conflict. He stated that he loves to
fight and will do so. He indicated that if he thinks something is right, he is
going to fight for what is right no matter how much it costs. He stated that
the Mayor asked why he was wasting his time since he was only going to be
here a couple more weeks and this shows his ignorance of the judicial system
that we have in this country. He noted that there are a lot of opportunities
afforded to him through the courts, and like any other citizen who can afford
it, he is going to take the courts up on it. He stated that if he takes 10 years
or 5 years or however long he feels it
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should take to do it, that is what he is going to do. He fiuther stated that he is
in full control of the situation, the District Attorney is not and the court is not.
He stated that the reason that he is in control is because he can resign at any
time and walk away from the issue and they hold an empty bag. He noted the
amount of money he has spent on this fight, he could not be recovered in 100
years in this City. He stated that he is willing to invest those dollars because
he feels that he is right doing what he did or what he is accursed of
9. Noted the Mayor's Address to the City and the Mayor's comment about not
trusting any level of government and that every level was a crook. He
indicated that the Mayor lied to the citizens when he was the City Treasurer
about the Ball Field and the Lake and he has lied on Council about USA
Properties and the Ford and Chevrolet dealership, however that is acceptable
because he is the Mayor.
10. Noted his request during Closed Session to set Parking on Main Street which
would benefit the community, and was set for a Study Session. He stated
however, that it did not take five minutes for the Council can give $300,000
to the Ford Dealership during that same Closed Session; however, parking
must go to a Study Session. He noted the imbalance on Council.
11. Sated that he will be on Council for a while and noted that he is going to a
hearing on the 14`h with a tentative court date on August 31'. He commented
that he doesn't know what will occur because they have not brought the
motions forward. He stated that when he is ready to leave he will leave, but
not before he is ready.
Councilman Metze commented on the followine:
Requested that the City Manager look into Lakepoint Park and the crosswalk
issue. He stated that Mr. Ketch made some good points and that it might be
possible to place a stop sign at that location.
Councilwoman Brinley commented on the followin¢:
Congratulated Joyce Tate, the Senior Center Site Coordinator, on an article
that was done in the newspaper. Noted the programs that she has established
over the last 10 years. She commended Joyce for the wonderful job that she
is doing and asked her to keep up the good work.
2. Noted that Visions and Views will carry the Mayor's State of the City
Address and commented on the positive overview this gives the City.
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Noted that Mr. Ketch raised some good pints and asked that the City
Manager look into these concerns. She noted that as issues are brought
forward Council does give direction and staff is very responsive. She
addressed Mr. Bertetto's concerns and stated that the City Manager and Staff
did try to resolve his problems and a permit was issued.
4. Commented on the letter from Mr. Hohngren and requested that the City
Manager and City Attorney to look at the possibility of auctioning the pews
to the public. She asked City Manager to get back to Mr. Holmgren.
Addressed the Ford and Chevrolet Dealerships and noted that the amount of
sales tax generated from the first quarter from the Chevrolet Dealership. She
stressed the benefit to the community and noted that the Ford Dealership will
probably be in the top 40 as well. She explained that these businesses
generate jobs and not just low paying jobs. She cited the salary that a
mechanic makes at the Dealership.
6. Addressed the Study Session for Parking on Main Street and stated that a
Study Session was called to give the merchants on Main Street the
opportunity to participate.
Mayor Pro Tern Kelley commented on the following:
Commented on an anonymous letter she received regarding the Street Faire.
She noted that she passed it on to the Chamber of Commerce since it is their
function.
2. Thanked LEAF for taking a 3 foot iguana from her front yard.
Mayor Pape commented on the followine:
Noted the Bone Marrow Transplant Drive on August 29, 1998 at Elsinore
High School. He encouraged the community to participate.
2. Thanked the family from Tustin who took the time to write a letter regarding
the Lake. He stated that they complimented the City on the Lake, staff and
boat launch. He stated his appreciation to people who write in with positive
things to say.
3. Commented that if James Gray had taken a minute to call the City Manager's
Office he would have saved himself the embarrassment of printing a flyer
with incorrect facts.
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4. He stated that the State of the City Address will be televised on Channel three
and commented that he did spend a few minutes on honesty in public office
and how important it is. He stated that he just felt that if someone was not
guilty, then they would want to go to court and get it over with quickly.
CLOSED SESSION
CONFERENCE WITH LEGAL COUNSEL — ANTICIPATED LITIGATION
(Initiation of litigation pursuant to subdivision ( C ) of Section 54956.9) — 1 Case.
City Attorney Leibold announced one case of anticipated litigation.
THE CITY COUNCIL ADJOURNED TO CLOSED SESSION AT 8:10 P.M.
Councilman Alongi noted the loss of Jess Rodriguez.
THE CITY COUNCIL RECONVENED AT 8:15 P.M. WITH THE
FOLLOWING ANNOUNCEMENT:
By a vote of 3 to 2 with Councilman Alongi and Mayor Pro Tem Kelley
casting the dissenting votes. The Council majority directed the City Attorney
to initiate litigation, actions, parties and substance to be identified once
commenced.
ADJOURNMENT
MOVED BY METZE, SECONDED BY KELLEY AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO ADJOURN THE REGULAR CITY COUNCIL
MEETING AT 8:16 P.M.
G(�
VIN W. P E, MAYOR
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
A' TES
I SAD, ITY CLERK
CIfY OF LAKE ELSINORE
MINUTES
CITY COUNCIL STUDY SESSION
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
130 SOUTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA
WEDNESDAY - AUGUST 19,1998 — 3:00 P.M.
CALL TO ORDER
The City Council Study Session was called to order by Mayor Pape at 3:06 p.m.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
City Attorney Leibold led the Pledge of Allegiance.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: COUNCILMEMBERS:ALONGI, BRINLEY, KELLEY, PAPE
ABSENT: COUNCILMEMBERS:METZE
Also present were: City Manager Watenpaugh, City Attorney Leibold,
Administrative Services Director Boone, Community Development Director
Brady, Public Works Manager Payne and Deputy City Clerk Bryning.
PUBLIC COMMENTS - AGENDIZED ITEMS
There were several requests to speak which the Mayor deferred to the time of
discussion of the item.
DISCUSSION ITEM
Main Street Parkine.
City Manager Watenpaugh indicated that Councilman Alongi brought the
issue of parking on Main Street to his attention and noted that several
concerns were expressed by the local businesses. He explained that this
item was set for a Study Session prior to setting on the City Council Agenda
to allow Council to gain the information necessary to form an opinion. City
Manager Watenpaugh stated that included with the Staff Report is a set of
minutes from January 9, 1996, as well as the Staff Report that was presented
at that time.
COUNCILMAN METZE ARRIVED AT 3:11 P.M.
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Paula Maniscalco, Enchanted Treasures, 169 North Main Street, stated her
frustration regarding the parking on Main Street. She stated that she is not
in favor of timed parking on Main Street however, she explained that she
would like to see a volunteer program through the business people on Main
Street if the City cannot do signs or assist in the problem. She stated that
the businesses need the space for their customers.
Joe Zahabi, Elsinore TV & VCR Service, 112 South Main Street, stated that
if his patrons cannot find a parking spot on the street, they give up and go
elsewhere. He asked that the City address this problem though limiting
parking to 2 hours.
Wanda Moore, Collectors Corral, 133 North Main Street, stated something
must be done about the parking problem in the Downtown Area. She noted
that they have tried in vain to talk to the other merchants on the street. She
stressed that everyone that is in attendance is a small business and if a
parking place is available, then it means that someone may come into the
business and shop. She further noted that if there is no parking, the public
would just drive on and find somewhere to shop.
Fred Dominguez, Elsinore Barber and Beauty Shop, 115 N. Main Street,
stated that this issue has been addressed before and he is strictly against
restrictions. He noted that the businesses on Main Street have enough
restrictions by being a Special District. He further noted the difficulty of
getting a Business License if the business is located on Main Street versus
anywhere else in the City. Mr. Dominguez noted the problem that the City
will have with enforcement. He stated that with a two hour parking
restriction, customers would go elsewhere.
Dolores Mayhall, Mayhall Print Shop, 138 North Main Street, stated that
the City has had two hour parking on Main Street and it was successful.
She noted that the average customer spends approximately 20 minutes in
most of the stores and if they can't get a parking place, then they go
elsewhere. She stated that she does not know if timing will be the answer,
however something must be done to correct the current situation. She
further noted that the owners of the different businesses have been
contacted and asked that they no park on Main Street and it has been
ignored.
Allene Hawkins, Venus Printing, 159 North Main Street, stated that she did
not know if a time limit for parking would be an answer. She explained that
she is less impacted by this situation than the other businesses since she is
on the far end of Main Street, however when the City has a function at the
Cultural Center it does impact her business due to a lack of parking. She
stated that if the merchants are not going to park on Main Street, then they
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should be parking in the City Parking Lots and the City should be
responsible for vandalism. She noted incidents that have occurred to her
employees and explained that she feels that there is enough activity on Main
Street to prevent vandalism. She stressed that she would be willing to park
in the City Parking Lot as long as the City is responsible for the vandalism
that is done. She questioned if the amount of handicap spaces on Main
Street was necessary. Council stated that it is an ADA requirement and is
gauged on the amount of spaces.
Jan Howard, Memory Lane Antiques, 117 South Main Street, stated that she
has a severe problem with parking since she does not have high visibility
that the other shops have. She noted that she has a continual parking
problem and if there is a delivery she is forced to go to her neighbors and
ask them to move to get to the front of her own business. She further stated
that she does not know what the answer is and would not like to see her
customers limited to two hour parking, however if she has no parking she
has no customers anyway. She stated that one of her business neighbors
informed her that it is against the law to require her employees to park
elsewhere. She stated that if the merchants and their employees' park in the
Parking Lots then maybe there could be some type of patrol to make it safer.
Larry Regis, N.P. Energy, 148 South Main Street, addressed the economic
development of the area and noted the changes that have occurred within
the City in the last four years. He further noted the success of the open -air
market, however the City does not provide them the privilege of being able
to park the next time they visit the downtown area. He explained that if he
did not have parking on the side of his building, he would be hard pressed to
find a parking place. He noted the fiscal restraints that the City has and the
problems with enforcement of a two -hour parking. He suggested parking
solutions and possible enforcement by the businesses themselves. He
stressed the need to use the City Parking Lots. He noted that the problem is
the parking and asked that the Council address this issue.
Rick Zwiefel, Main Street Antique Emporium, 101 South Main Street,
presented a petition with the signatures of people that would be in favor of
some type of limited parking on Main Street. He read two letters
representing the thoughts of the persons who signed the petition. He noted
that there are twelve or so cars of employees that park on Main Street and
take valuable parking for customers. He explained that the Downtown had
two hour parking in the past and after the streets were remodeled the signs
were removed and then reinstalled; shortly after that the issue went before
Council and the signs were removed. Mr. Zwiefel stated that the only
people that this will directly impact is the business people. He explained
that the restrictions that Mr. Dominguez addressed are part of a package that
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he introduced when Mr. Dominguez was on Council and it was of the
benefit of the Downtown area. He suggested that the merchants that
promote the Open Air Market provide signs indicating public parking in the
back to indicate public parking lots. He stated that when there was two hour
parking in the Downtown Area there was no complaints it was just obeyed,
however now that it is not in effect, the problems are there for the different
merchants. He noted that the majority of the merchants want to have a limit
on parking. He asked that prior to the Council taking the issue to a Council
Meeting that they form a committee to address this issue between the
Council and the merchants to present firm ideas to Council.
Mayor Pape brought the discussion back to the table and opened it to
Council.
Mayor Pro Tem Kelley noted that in the letters, the number one choice is
"customer parking only" signs and the last choice is two -hour parking. She
stated that she would like to find the best possible solution to the most
people possible. She explained that if there were a two -hour parking limit,
it would not be any good if it is not enforced and that is the issue. She
stated that her particular concern is cost and she is looking for a solution
that is not costly and does not pull a policeman off the street to marls tires.
Mayor Pro Tem Kelley stated that the City spent a lot of money on the
parking lots and they are not being utilized. She asked the City Manager if
there is there a possible solution through security to make the parking lots
safer. She asked about cost and the obligations of Guadalajara Restaurant
for security.
City Manager Watenpaugh stated that the cost would depend on the amount
of security that Council wished to have. He noted that at one time the City
was paying to have a Security Officer walk Main Street, which included the
parking lots. He noted that Guadalajara Restaurant by contract is required
to provide some type of security designated by the City for the parking lot
on Poe Street. He further noted that the patrol does not need to be done by a
sworn Police Officer, but rather can be done by a private Security Officer or
a CSO. He explained that it could cost anywhere between $7.00 to $12.00
an hour.
Mayor Pro Tem Kelley questioned stickers in the window of the merchant
and employees cars. Mr. Zwiefel stated that the only problem with that is
making sure that the employees actually use the stickers. There was general
discussion regarding the use of stickers.
Larry Regis stated that there are other opportunities that can be explored
and it is up to the merchants to enforce rules with their employees. He
stressed that the purpose of this meeting is to find solutions that are both
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fiscally sound and something that the City can work in cooperation with the
Downtown merchants. He noted that the majority of the merchants are
willing to work with the City to solve the conflict that is ongoing.
Councilwoman Brinley stated that she does not want to see citations issued
in the Downtown area. She stressed that she would not like to see
limitations set on Main Street because she has spent more than two hours on
Main Street. She noted that she has had lunch and then visited several
shops and it took more than two hours. She explained that the City does not
have enough funds at this time to assign a police officer for the Downtown
area only.
Fred Dominguez stated that the problem is the use of the parking lots and he
feels that the solution is to have someone who can patrol the parking lots to
make it safe for people to leave their cars.
Councilwoman Brinley suggested that a Main Street Parking Committee be
formed to address the issues and find solutions. She stated that she would
not be opposed to the City providing better signage, however she feels that
the City cannot afford to assign a special patrol officer for one area only.
City Manager Watenpaugh commended the merchants for their willingness
to allow Council to assist in this problem. He suggested that a committee
be selected to meet with the Police Chief and staff to further discuss ideas
and solutions to the problem with parking on Main Street and can be
brought back to Council, in a timely manner, with options for Council to
consider. Councilwoman Brinley concurred.
Councilman Alongi stated that this issue has been before Council several
times in the past. He noted that the City built the parking lots and then
bought a motor scooter which was designated for the patrol of Main Street
and other areas of the City where there might be parking problems. He
indicated that he has not seen this vehicle on Main Street for a very long
time. Councilman Alongi stressed that there is no guarantee that a vehicle
will not be vandalized no matter where it is parked and it is not fair to
expect the City to accept the responsibility. He further stressed that the City
has spent a lot of money on the parking lots and they should be utilized and
if they are he feels that the problem will not exist due to increased activity.
He indicated that the Sheriff s Department had promised that if the City
purchased the motor scooter that they would patrol the parking lots and
different areas of the City for parking problems and this has not been done.
He stated that he felt that two -hour parking is a good idea since it would
encourage use of the parking lots. He indicated that there is nothing that
cannot be done in two hours on Main Street and if someone is going to be
longer than two hours they should be parking in the parking lots.
Councilman Alongi stated that he could not understand why the merchants
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would allow their employees to park on Main Street in front of the
businesses because if people don't find a parking space, they drive on to
somewhere else. He explained the purpose of the handicap parking. He
explained that there is plenty of parking on Main Street if it is utilized. He
stated that he would fight any sign that designated "customers only ", since
it is a public street and cannot be confined to customers only. He further
stated that the two -hour parking is a win/win situation, since if it solves the
problem Council gets the credit and if it doesn't work it is the merchants
problem, however he has no objection to appointing a committee.
Councilwoman Brinley stated that she felt that a committee would be a
good answer since the merchants can work with staff and the police and
bring back their suggestions for Council consideration.
Mayor Pape stated that enforcement of a parking area can be set by the
employer and is a part of the employee rules and regulations or at least
explained to them at the time they are hired. He noted that if the lack of
parking is affecting the business and customers are not coming in, then that
person is not going to have a job. He indicated that he feels it is the City's
responsibility to make sure there is a safe place of a car to park in the City
parking lots. He stated Council is able give direction to make sure that the
parking lots are patrolled on a more regular basis. Mayor Pape noted the
cost of enforcement for two -hour parking and the fact that it is just not
feasible. He explained the duties of the Patrol Officer and the Community
Service Officer. He stressed the need to have them continue the current job
rather than mark tires every hour, however if the officers on duty drive
through the parking lots more often and they are used more then it helps to
prevent stalking of the parking lot. He stated if there are people spending
more than three hours on Main Street, then they are spending time and
money and we don't want to chase them away with limited parking.
Councilman Metze stated that he does not feel that stickers or "customer
only" parking will work and he does not want to discourage the person who
is having lunch and then shopping for antiques to have to leave after two
hours. He indicated that he is in favor of signage for the parking lots and
does not oppose forming a committee. He stated that the merchants
providing private security is another option. He questioned that 10% of the
merchants are taking up all of the parking spaces. Members of the audience
confirmed the numbers and explained that it was the merchant and
employees that use the parking spaces in front of other stores and leave only
a few spaces for customers in front of their own establishment. Councilman
Metze noted that some of the merchants that are in favor of two -hour
parking have parked on Main Street for the last six years and he questioned
the available parking spaces if they are guilty as well. He stressed that there
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is a problem and he is in favor of signage for the parking lots as well as the
fact that security would help, however he is opposed to restricted parking.
There was general discussion regarding merchants parking on Main Street.
City Manager Watenpaugh stated that he could ask the Police to be more
visible, however he would need direction from Council to bring a CSO on
board to patrol the parking lot. He explained that the "customer only"
signage would not be possible since it is a public street.
City Attorney Leibold stated concurred and explained that it is a public
street and it would be impossible to enforce.
Councilwoman Brinley noted that she is not always good at keeping track of
time and felt that a two -hour parking situation would not be effective for
business.
Mayor Pape reviewed the actions discussed and stated that if the merchants
would require their own vehicles as well as their employee's vehicles to be
parked in the City's parking lots that would open several more spaces. He
further stated that the City would work with the Police Department to make
sure that there are extra patrols through the parking lots.
Councilwoman Kelley stated that she would like to see a cost breakdown if
the City should decide to hire a CSO or Private Security; see the merchant
responsible for the solution since it is their business; see a committee
formed and decisions made by the merchants themselves prior to Council
review. She noted that the merchants are the ones who will have to live
with the decisions that Council makes, therefore she would like to have
another Study Session to give the opportunity for further review.
Councilwoman Brinley concurred with Mayor Pape's suggestion.
Councilman Alongi noted that if a person were cited for a parking violation
then they would be less inclined to repeat the offense. He noted the Street
Sweeping Program and explained that we don't get everyone one of the
people, however enough people have been cited to cut down on the parking
problem on street cleaning day. He stressed that the two -hour parking
would be the same. He stated that the CSO could work the downtown area
part of the day instead of all day at the Outlet Center. He stressed that it
would make a difference. Councilman Alongi stated that it is not a difficult
decision and should be implemented through two -hour parking.
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Mayor Pape opened the discussion to the general audience and several
suggestions were made as follows: The use of surveillance cameras to
observe the parking lots which would cost approximately $1,500 each for
equipment and operation; Use of parking lot across from the Cultural Center
for City functions instead of parking on the street; Consideration of
Economic Development with City Council commitment; Merchant
contribution to private security for the parking lots; A block captain could
mark tires for two -hour parking and save the cost of an officer; Signage for
parking lots with periodic patrol from the Police Department.
Mayor Pape asked how staff felt about signage for the parking lots. City
Manager Watenpaugh stated that there is no problem with providing
signage, however it appears as though it is an image in security rather than
parking itself. He noted that through the discussion he felt that the people
would feel more comfortable if activity was occurring around the area their
car was parked. He concluded that if there was security in the parking lots
that the majority of merchants and their employees would park there rather
than two -hour parking.
Councilman Alongi stated that Council does not have businesses on Main
Street or on the Street everyday, and therefore cannot know what problems
are occurring. He noted that Council depends on the merchants to keep
them informed what would be best for their businesses. He further noted
that if it is restricted parking, then it is the obligation of Council to
investigate that avenue and try to provide that service. He explained that
the City does not provide 100% services on any of the services that the City
provides, nor does any other City. Councilman Alongi explained that a
Police Officer cannot be at any one place 100% of the time and the only
way anyone can receive 100% service is through private service that the
person or persons pay for themselves. He suggested that a committee be
formed with a member of staff and a small amount of merchants to bring
options back to Council to consider for the Downtown. He stated that he
would not attend another Study Session in regard to this item.
Fred Dominguez summarized the comments made by the audience and
concurred that a committee is the best way to approach this issue.
Councilman Metze stated that the majority of people stated that they were
not in favor of a two -hour parking limit if there was another alternative. He
noted that only two persons were strongly in favor of a two -hour parking
limit. He noted that the overall comment was that the City does something
to assist in solving the problem. He indicated that a committee was the best
solution to address this situation.
Councilwoman Brinley concurred and explained that the City built the
parking lots to encourage business in the Downtown and the City has
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invested in the Economic Development of the Downtown. She suggested
that the Committee look into security for the parking lots to encourage
parking in that area.
Mr. Zwiefel asked about the motor scooter for traffic control. City Manager
Watenpaugh explained that because of the budget cuts the traffic control has
been switched to bicycle patrol and noted that the Mayor suggested that the
officers swing through the parking lots as they leave and return on their
patrol. Mr. Zwiefel noted that if there was an ordinance in place the
merchants and employees would probably follow the rules if there were
signs in place even if there was not consistent enforcement. There was
general discussion in regard to the effectiveness of the signage if there was
little to no enforcement.
Mayor Pape directed the merchants to set up a committee and meet with
City Manager Watenpaugh. He asked that the committee look into the cost
of cameras; the cost of security; and increased patrol by the police.
ADJOURNMENT
The City Council Study Session adj
Respectfully submitted,
ATTEST:
VICKI KASAD, C TY CLERK
'eO` 4:31 p.m.
tea; U094"
W. PAPE, MAYOR
MINUTES
REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
183 NORTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA
TUESDAY, AUGUST 25, 1998
CALL TO ORDER
The Regular City Council Meeting was called to order by Mayor Pape at 7:05 p.m.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Mayor Pro Tern Kelley.
INVOCATION
The Invocation was presented by Father George Gonzales representing Saint
Francis of Rome Catholic Church.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: KELLEY, METZE, PAPE
ABSENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: ALONGI, BRINELY
Also present were: City Manager Watenpaugh, City Attorney Leibold,
Administrative Services Director Boone, Community Development Director
Brady, Assistant to the City Manager Best, Recreation and Tourism Manager
Edelbrock, Public Works Manager Payne, City Engineer O'Donnell, Chief of
Police Walsh, Sergeant Brinkman, Fire Chief Seabert, and Deputy City Clerk
Bryning.
PUBLIC COMMENTS - AGENDIZED ITEMS
There was a request to address the following item:
Item Nos. 3 and 32.
CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS
The following item was pulled from the Consent Calendar for further discussion
and consideration:
Item No. 3.
MOVED BY KELLEY, SECONDED BY METZE AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO APPROVE THE
BALANCE OF THE CONSENT CALENDAR AS PRESENTED.
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The following Minutes were approved: (F: 44.4)
a. Regular City Council Meeting for July 28, 1998.
b. Regular City Council Meeting for August 11, 1998.
The following Minutes were received and filed:
C. Planning Commission Minutes for August 5, 1998. (F: 60.3)
d. Design Review Committee Minutes for August 5, 1998. (F: 60.4)
2. Ratified Warrant List for August 14, 1998. (F: 12.3)
4. Awarded Contract for the modification of the traffic signal at Diamond
Drive and Casino Drive to Transtech Engineering in the amount of $15,000.
(F: 162.4)
5. Approved the Cooperative Agreement with Cal Trans for Traffic Signal
Project at Lincoln Street and State Highway 74 (Riverside Drive); approved
allocation of $98,900 from the Traffic Signal Mitigation Fee Fund for the
installation of the Traffic Signal; and agreed to fund the electrical energy
costs for the Traffic Signal. (F: 162.4)
6. Approved Resolution No. 98 -34, prohibiting parking on the west side of
Dexter Avenue from Central Avenue to 100 feet south of the southerly
driveway. (F: 112.1)
RESOLUTION NO. 98-34
A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF LAKE
ELSINORE, ESTABLISHING NO PARKING ZONES ON CERTAIN
STREETS.
7. Declared the old computer equipment as surplus and donate the same to the
Lake Elsinore School District. (F: 65.1) (X: 142.1)
Approved the Lease Agreement with South Coast Air Quality Management
District for a five -year period for the use of property located on top of the
small hill above Yarborough Park. (F: 68.1) (X: 114.8)
BUSINESS ITEMS
31. Industrial Project No. 98 -2, Phase II of the Central Business Park. (F: 86.1)
City Manager Watenpaugh gave an overview of the project and stated that it
is staffs Recommendation to approve Industrial Project 98 -2, re- certify
Negative Declaration No. 89 -26, based on the recommendation Findings,
Exhibits and subject to the attached Conditions of Approval.
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Councilman Metze stated that he felt that this was a good project and noted
that all the buildings are full even before they are built.
Mayor Pape stated that this is a positive project and noted the size of the
buildings. He explained that some of the businesses that are going into the
buildings are expansions of existing businesses. He noted that Wieland
Precision Machine is adding 10 new jobs and the other businesses will
increase employment by 20 positions. He stressed the need for this type of
positive projects.
Mayor Pro Tern Kelley stated her pleasure at having this type of project
come before Council and welcomed this addition to the Business Park.
MOVED BY METZE, SECONDED BY KELLEY AND CARRIED BY A
UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO APPROVE INDUSTRIAL
PROJECT 98 -2, RE- CERTIFY NEGATIVE DECLARARTION NO. 89 -269
BASED ON FINDINGS AND CONDITIONS AS FOLLOWS:
FINDINGS:
Subject to the attached Conditions of Approval the proposed project
is not anticipated to result in any significant adverse environmental
impacts.
2. The project as proposed complies with the Goals, Objectives, and
policies of the General Plan, and the Zoning District in which it is
located.
3. Conditions and safeguards pursuant to Chapter 17.82.070 of the
Zoning Code, including guarantees and evidence of compliance with
conditions, have been incorporated into the approval of the subject
project to ensure development of the property in accordance with the
Objectives of Chapter 17.82.
CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL
PLANNING DIVISION
Design Review approval for Industrial Project No. 98 -2 will lapse and
be void unless building permits are issued within one (1) year of City
Council approval. An extension of time, up to one (1) year per
extension, may be granted by the Community Development Director
prior to the expiration of the initial Design Review approval upon
application by the developer one (1) month prior to expiration.
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2. Conditions of approval shall be reproduced on page one of building
plans prior to their acceptance by the Building Division. All
Conditions of Approval shall be met prior to the issuance of a
Certificate of Occupancy and release of utilities.
All site improvements approved with this request shall be constructed
as indicated on the approved site plan and elevations. Revisions to
approved site plans or building elevations shall be subject to the
review of the Community Development Director. All plans
submitted for Building Division Plan Check shall conform to the
submitted plans as modified by Conditions of Approval, or the
Planning Commission/City Council through subsequent action.
4. All roof mounted or ground support air conditioning units or other
mechanical equipment incidental to development shall be
architecturally screened or shielded by landscaping so that they are
not visible from neighboring property or public streets. Any roof
mounted central swamp coolers shall also be screened, and the
Community Development Director, prior to issuance of building
permit shall approve screening plan.
5. Applicant shall comply with the requirements of the Elsinore Valley
Municipal Water District. Proof shall be presented to the Chief
Building Official prior to issuance of building permits and final
approval.
6. All exterior on -site lighting shall be shielded and directed on -site so
as not to create glare onto neighboring property and streets or allow
illumination above the horizontal plane of the fixture.
7. All loading zones shall be clearly marked with yellow striping and
shall meet City Standards for loading zones. This project shall be
designed so that every unit is provided with a 12' X 20' (twelve -foot
by twenty -foot) loading space as required by the City Municipal
Code.
8. the Planning Division shall approve construction trailers utilized
during construction.
9. All exterior downspouts shall be painted to match the building color.
10. Materials and colors depicted on the materials board shall be used
unless modified by the Community Development Director or
designee.
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11. Prior to issuance of building permits, applicant shall pay park -in -lieu
fee in effect at time of building permit issuance.
12. Prior to issuance of building permits, applicant shall provide
assurance that all requirements of Riverside County Fire Department
have been met.
13. Prior to issuance of building permits, applicant shall pay park -in -lieu
fee in effect at time of building permit issuance.
14. The Community Development Director or designee shall approve any
signage in compliance with the approved Sign Program.
15. Prior to issuance of building permits, applicant shall provide a soils
report for approval by the Engineering Department.
ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT
16. Industrial Project I No. 98 -2 shall be required to comply with all
applicable conditions of approval for Parcel Map 24751.
17. The finish floor elevation of all structures shall be minimal of one
foot above the adjacent grade.
18. This project shall contribute a pro -rata share for improvements per
conditions 24, 25, and 35 of PM 24751 as follows:
Signalization
$6,760
Median
$9,153
Drainage
$10,098
Total
$26,011
19. Process and meet all lot line adjustment requirements prior to
issuance of building permit. Provide quick claim grant deed for
exchange of title.
20. Pay all Capital Improvement and Plan Check fees (LEMC 16.34, Res.
85 -26)
21. Submit a "Will Serve" letter to the City Engineering Department form
the applicable water agency stating that water and sewer
arrangements have been made for this project. Submit this letter prior
to applying for a building permit.
22. On -site drainage shall be conveyed to a public facility or accepted by
adjacent property owners by a letter of drainage acceptance or
conveyed to a drainage easement.
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23. All natural drainage traversing the site shall be conveyed through the
site, or shall be collected and conveyed by a method approved by the
City Engineer.
24. The applicant to provide FEMA elevation certificates prior to
certificate of occupancies.
25. Precise grading plans shall be prepared by a Registered State of
California Civil Engineer and approved prior to grading permit
issuance. Prior to any grading, the applicant shall obtain a grading
permit and post appropriate security.
32. BP Racing Event Approval. (F:151.1) (X: 92.1)
City Manager Watenpaugh explained that this is a request by Baja
Promotions to relocate their Salton Sea "300" Endurance Race to Lake
Elsinore. He presented a list of the activities that BP Racing has sponsored.
He stressed that it is a request to have a full lake closure and although staff
has been opposed to that action it was felt that because the activity is
scheduled for December which is the off season it would not be a negative
impact to the local businesses. He stated that it is staff's recommendation
to approve the event with full lake closure and "in water refueling" for
Saturday, December 5, 1998.
Pete Dawson, Pro Marine, 18010 Grand Avenue, stated his approval of
events on the Lake and since it brings much needed revenue to the
community. He noted the ski race which was held on the Lake last weekend
and the problems that occurred because the group did not follow -up on their
condition to inform the different launch sites around the Lake and as a
consequence the Lake had to be closed for public safety. He stressed that
because the Marina's around the Lake did not know about the event they
could not inform their customers and when the Lake was closed, it offended
the customers because they had to be turned away. He asked that this
dilemma be addressed to prevent it from occurring again. He stressed his
opposition to full lake closure and explained that closures hurt local
business and asked that Council try to accommodate the public and the
events through a partial lake closure versus a full lake closer. He further
explained that the community has worked so hard to bring dollars into the
community and one of those ways is through boaters. Mr. Dawson stated
that the number of boaters have increased and we have received positive
press about our lake and he does not want to see that change.
Councilman Metze concurred with Mr. Dawson and stated that under
normal circumstances Council does not want full lake closures, however
because this even is scheduled for December it should not damage local
businesses. He stated his concern regarding the lake closure last weekend
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and stressed that he does not want to see that happen again. He stated that
he would like to see a condition added to require the organizer of the event
to distribute fliers to the local marinas to inform them of the upcoming
event. He asked Mr. Lou Peralta, Baja Promotions (BP Racing) if he would
be willing at their expense to distribute fliers, five weeks in advance, to
every launch around the Lake both in the City and County. He wanted Mr.
Peralta to know that Council welcomed his event, but stressed that during
the summer full lake closure would not be considered, however in the
winter he feels that it is acceptable, due to the type of race proposed, to
close the Lake. He clarified his request for the condition. He asked how
many participants that BP Racing anticipated. Mr. Peralta stated that they
anticipate from 120 to 180 participants. Councilman Metze asked how
many spectators they expect. Mr. Peralta stated that because the event has
been held at Salton Sea they had approximately 600 to 800, however Lake
Elsinore is closer to major populations he expects to see quite a few more
spectators. He further stated that he does not have a problem with the fliers
and they will be working close with Community Services for this event. He
gave past histories of events that they held and how they handle traffic and
safety situations. He noted that there are very few places where they request
full closure of the facilities and if they were to schedule other events they
would not be opposed to a partial closure and would be happy to work with
the City. He explained that they produce approximately 24 races a year and
noted the problems that they have faced with water traffic and their rule is
that public traffic has right -of -way and the racers must yield.
Mayor Pro Tern Kelley questioned if it was necessary to close the Lake for
this race. Mr. Peralta stated that they did not ask for full lake closure,
however after his meeting with Community Services Director Sapp and
Sergeant Brinkman it was felt that for the first time a full lake closure would
be best.
City Manager Watenpaugh asked what the hours the race would be. Mr.
Peralta stated that the race begins at 8:00 a.m. and ends at 2:00 p.m. He
explained that this is a 6 hour race and this would allow 2 hours for
emergencies.
Mayor Pape stated that he does not approve of a full lake closure, however
because this event is scheduled in the winter, which is the Lake's off-
season, he has no problem with the closure. He noted that the City could
end up with a lot more people on and around the Lake for this event, than if
it was just a normal weekend. Mr. Peralta stated that their headquarters will
be at the Lake Elsinore Resort and Casino.
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MOVED BY KELLEY TO APPROVE THE "IN WATER REFUELING ";
FLIERS TO BE DISTRIBUTED TO ALL THE MARINAS SURROUNDING
THE LAKE AND FULL LAKE CLOSURE ONLY IF BP RACING MEETS
WITH STAFF TO DETERMINE IF IT IS NECESSARY TO ALLOW FOR
POSSIBLE PARTIAL CLOSURE INSTEAD OF FULL LAKE CLOSURE.
THE MOTION DIED FOR LACK OF A SECOND.
Councilman Metze asked if this event is done in heats. Mr. Peralta stated at
this event everyone starts at the same time. Councilman Metze noted that
with 180 participants on the lake starting at the same time, could cause a
safety problem.
Mayor Pro Tern Kelley asked Sergeant Brinkman to address the safety
issues. City Manager Watenpaugh noted that it would be very hard for 3 or
4 patrol people to pick out which are spectators and which are the racers in
this event. Sergeant Brinkman explained that due to the lack of personnel,
added to the number of persons participating in the event going as fast as
possible, the issue become public safety. He noted that one of the major
violations committed on the Lake is for going the wrong way and under the
circumstances this would create a real public safety hazard.
City Manager Watenpaugh asked if half the Lake would be large enough to
run the race. Mr. Peralta stated that it would not. He stated that the
optimum situation would be a full lake closure and this was discussed with
staff. He explained the nature of the race and the fact that all of the racers
start at the same time and then during the race spread out and the ratio of the
racers from one spot would be one racer every 35 to 45 seconds. He noted
that the key element of this race is a long distance endurance race at high
speed. He explained that a full lake closure would optimum for public
safety and that is one of their major concerns. City Manager Watenpaugh
stated that he has no problem with Mr. Peralta meeting with staff, however
if his Lake Sergeant feels that it is best to close the lake then that is the
recommendation that he would support.
Councilman Metze stated that he concurs with staff's recommendation for
this first race.
Mayor Pape questioned the weather and cold for this event. Mr. Peralta
stated that the racers have the proper equipment to address this issue and are
well prepared.
Mayor Pro Tern Kelley thanked Sergeant Brinkman for his input and stated
that public safety concerns are very important, however she did not want
Mr. Peralta to think that Council was setting a precedent regarding full lake
closure. She noted that the Council does not like to close the lake at all.
She further noted that since this event is scheduled for December 5, she has
no problems with full lake closure.
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MOVED BY METZE, SECONDED BY KELLEY AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO APPROVE THE EVENT
WITH A FULL LAKE CLOSURE AND "IN WATER REFUELING" FOR
DECEMBER 5. 1998. FLIERS TO BE DISTRIBUTED TO ALL THE BOAT
LAUNCHS AROUND THE LAKE FIVE (5) WEEKS IN ADVANCE OF
THE RACE.
33. Lindsay Street Partial Closure. (F: 156.1)
City Manager Watenpaugh explained that the staff report is vague because
the Committee wanted the event to have surprises for the public. He noted
that this is a request to partially close Lindsay Street between the new
Library site and Mr. Bulen's building. He noted that it would extend from
Graham Avenue to the property in back of the Library, which is half of a
block. He noted that it does not impact the apartment building on Lindsay
to allow them ingress and egress. He stated that this action is to facilitate
the Friends of the Library, County, City and Library staff the ability to
present a Grand Opening which includes a reception on Friday night and on
Saturday activities related to the Grand Opening from 10:00 a.m. to 4:00
p.m. City Manager Watenpaugh stated that this is going to be a positive
event and fun for everyone. He noted that staff recommends the approval of
a partial street closure of Lindsay Street from Graham Avenue South to the
alleyway adjacent to the apartment complex; authorize the necessary
overtime expenses to complete the street closure; and direct staff to notify
all businesses and residents affected by the closure.
Mayor Pape stated that he appreciates staff's consideration of the local
businesses and residents by notifying them. He reminded the public that the
event is scheduled for October 17, 1998. He expressed his appreciation of
the Friends of the Library and commended them for all their hard work.
Mayor Pro Tem Kelley stated that there are going to be lots of surprises for
the public. She invited everyone to attend.
MOVED BY KELLEY, SECONDED BY METZE AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO APPROVE THE
PARTIAL STREET CLOSURE OF LINDSAY; AUTHORIZE THE
NECESSARY OVERTIME EXPENSES AND DIRECT STAFF TO NOTIFY
ALL BUSINESSES AND RESIDENTS AFFECTED BY THE CLOSURE.
ITEMS PULLED FROM THE CONSENT CALENDAR
Investment Report - June, 1998. (F: 12.5)
Mayor Pape stated that this item was a request to pull from the Consent
Calendar by Mr. Knapp.
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Dick Knapp, City Treasurer, noted the amount of the Investment Report and
stated that given the amount of money that is in our investments he feels
that there was no need to close the parks.
Mayor Pape called upon City Manager Watenpaugh to respond. City
Manager Watenpaugh stated that the figures presented are correct and staff
would be happy to provide a breakdown if Council wishes further
explanation.
MOVED BY METZE, SECONDED BY KELLEY AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE BY THOSE PRESENT TO RECEIVE AND FILE THE
INVESTMENT REPORT FOR JUNE, 1998.
THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING WAS RECESSED AT 7:35 P.M.
THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING RECONVENED AT 7:37 P.M.
PUBLIC COMMENTS - NON - AGENDIZED ITEMS
Jim King, Southern California Gas Company, stated that he is the new General
Manager for the Gas Company and wished to take this opportunity to introduce
himself to the City Council. He stated that he likes to work with the different
cities in his district and would welcome any input from Council.
Howard Clapman Sr., Elsinore First Assembly of God Church, 19740 Grand
Avenue, stated that they will be taking over the distribution of the USDA
Government Commodities. He noted that H.O.P.E. was unable to continue the
service to the community and wished to announce the change. He stated that the
Food can now be picked up at the First Assembly of God Church on September 1,
from 8:00 a.m. to 12:00 p.m. and again September 29, at the same time. After the
month of September the food can be picked up the last Tuesday of every month
from 8:00 a.m. to 12:00 p.m. He explained that this program is for Low Income
people and they must produce a photo I.D. as well as a current utility bill to
establish their identity and address. He stated that if anyone had questions they
can contract Mary Louisa at (909) 678 -0647.
Pam Johnson, Friends of Frank Silva, gave an overview of the fund drive and the
immediate need for bone marrow. She stated that a testing center is scheduled for
Saturday, August 29, 1998, at Elsinore High School from 10:00 a.m. to 2:00 p.m.
She encouraged everyone to participate and stated that all that is required is a
simple blood test and if a match is found, then the person will be contacted for
further testing. She encouraged everyone to participate.
Anita Guzman, 317 N. Scrivener St., introduced Venessa Silva and stated that on
behalf of all the family and friends of Frank Silva a grateful thanks for all the
support, contribution and assistance that everyone has given to this effort.
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Dick Knapp, City Treasurer, voiced a complaint about a helicopter that has been
flying low over his neighborhood at approximately 12:00 a.m. He stated that it is
very annoying and disturbs their rest and he has seen no activity to merit this
action. He stated that if the pilot is so frustrated he should go elsewhere. He
stated to Chief Walsh that the pilot was not much more then 200 feet in altitude.
CITY MANAGER COMMENTS
None.
CITY ATTORNEY COMMENTS
Stated that she had no comments and there would be no Closed Session.
CITY COUNCIL COMMENTS
Councilman Metze commented on the following:
Questioned the comments Mr. Knapp made about the helicopter patroling
his neighborhood. He stated that there was probably good reason for the
actions of the pilot. He explained that it make him feel a little better to
know that there are eyes in the sky for the citizens protection.
Mayor Pro Tem Kelley commented on the following:
Stated that the helicopter has circled her area, however he had his spot -light
on and it does make her feel safe to have him in the air. She stated that she
appreciates the patrol because she feels that someone is out there looking
after the area.
Mayor Pape commented on the following:
Announced that the Albertson Market at Riverside Drive and Lake Shore
Drive will be opening the end of September or the first of October. He
stated that it is welcome news for the people that live in that area.
ADJOURNMENT
MOVED BY KELLEY, SECONDED BY METZE AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO ADJOURN THE
REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING AT 7:50 P.M.
l4APE, MAYOR
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Respectfully submitted,
ATTEST:
VICKI KASAD, CITY CLERK
MINUTES
REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
183 NORTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA
TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 8, 1998
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CALL TO ORDER
The Regular City Council Meeting was called to order by Mayor Pape at 7:00 p.m.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Mayor Pro Tern Kelley.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: ALONGI, KELLEY, PAPE
ABSENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: BRINLEY, METZE
Also present were: City Manager Watenpaugh, City Attorney Leibold,
Administrative Services Director Boone, Community Development Director
Brady, Community Services Director Sapp, Fire Chief Seabert, Police Chief
Walsh and City Clerk Kasad.
INVOCATION
The Invocation was provided by Pastor Martin Boyd, representing Lakeview
Chapel.
PRESENTATION
A. Presentation - RickxWeston. (17:56.1)
Mayor Pape noted that Mr. Weston could not be present due to his first
meeting on the State School Board, and indicated that the presentation would
be postponed until he could be present.
PUBLIC COMMENTS - AGENDIZED ITEMS
A request was received to address item #32 of this agenda and deferred to that
discussion.
CONSENT CALENDAR
MOVED BY KELLEY, SECONDED BY ALONGI AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO APPROVE THE CONSENT
CALENDAR AS PRESENTED.
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1. The following Minutes were approved:
a. Regular City Council Meeting - August 25, 1998. (F:44.4)
The following Minutes were received and ordered filed:
b. Planning Commission Meeting - August 5, 1998. (F:60.3)
C. Design Review Committee Meeting - August 5, 1998. (F:60.4)
2. Ratified Warrant List for August 31, 1998. (F:12.3)
3. Accepted Demolition Bid of Vision's West for 283 North Main Street.
(F:32.4)
31. Voting Delegate - League of California Cities Annual Conference. (F:108.8)
MOVED BY PAPE, SECONDED BY ALONGI AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO APPOINT MAYOR PRO
TEM KELLEY AS THE VOTING DELEGATE FOR THE LEAGUE OF
CALIFORNIA CITIES ANNUAL CONFERENCE IN LONG BEACH.
32. Main Street Parking. (F:112.1)
Mayor Pape noted the previously held Study Session on this topic.
City Manager Watenpaugh outlined the Council discussion and direction to
staff. He indicated that staff met with a group of seven Main Street business
representatives of diverse opinions with regard to parking solutions. He
noted that the meeting and discussion was very positive, with the largest issue
being where the employees of downtown businesses should park. He further
noted that it was the consensus of the business people to monitor themselves,
assisted by higher Police visibility in the area. He advised that efforts were
underway to reestablish the bicycle patrol team, order new parking signs for
Main Street to direct people to parking lots, and solicit volunteers for parking
lot control. He further advised that surveillance cameras are being
researched for use in public parking lots, and follow -up information will be
provided when available. He noted that Mr. Zwiefel who had attended the
merchants' meeting was present for comment.
Rick Zwiefel indicated that his comments had been covered by Mr.
Watenpaugh.
Mayor Pape noted that this item was intended as an update on the progress to
date.
Mayor Pro Tern Kelley indicated that the study session was very productive
and she was glad to see the progress.
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City Manager Watenpaugh added that the merchants indicated that they
would be willing to provide staff to assist with any surveillance efforts. He
expressed appreciation to the merchants for their willingness to be part of the
solution.
MOVED BY KELLEY, SECONDED BY ALONGI AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO RECEIVE AND FILE THIS
REPORT.
THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING WAS RECESSED AT 7:09 P.M.
THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING RECONVENED AT 7:12 P.M.
PUBLIC COMMENTS - NON - AGENDIZED ITEMS
Chris Hyland, 15191 Wavecrest Drive, noted that she just returned from Arizona to
a number of FAXes with rumors and questions, and asked those questions of the
Council as follow:
1) Is it true that meters for ,gas and lights at the Stadium were never X
changed over to TMC; and is the City strapped with the bill?
2) Rumor has it that the developers of Tuscany Hills and TMC have been
promised the next fire station. She questioned if this was true and
noted that the West End station is already funded. She suggested that
the residents could file with LAFCO for a succession from the City
into a COI, or recall the "big four ".
CITY MANAGER COMMENTS
City Manager Watenpaugh responded to the questions posed by Mrs. Hyland. He
indicated that the meters have been transferred to the Lakeside Sports Group,
although there is still some question with the gas meter, which is in the process of
being corrected. He also indicated that he is not aware of any commitment for a fire
station in Tuscany Hills.
CITY ATTORNEY COMMENTS
City Attorney Leibold report that there would be no need for the listed Closed
Session discussion.
CITY COUNCIL COMMENTS
Mayor Pro Tern Kelley commented on the following:
1) Commended City staff on the opening of the Campground over the weekend.
She noted that it was full on Saturday evening when she participated in
Visions and Views. She stressed that the facility was full on the first
weekend.
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2) Expressed "Get Well" wishes to Councilwoman Brinley.
Councilman Alongi commented on the following:
1) Echoed "Get Well" wishes to Councilwoman Brinley.
2) Noted that he was at an architect's office and was bombarded by questions
about the entrance to the new library. He indicated that a lot of money was
spend to design the bank to draw people to the entrance and he was not sure
why the new entrance was in the back, or why there were "cheap" signs on
the building. He stressed his concern with the closure of the front of the
building.
3) Indicated he was at the campground and was very happy to see it open. He
noted that he would be discussing a couple of items with the City Manager.
4) Advised that he went to an RDA seminar and was questioned as to why the
City sends people to seminars in Monterey. He stressed the volume of
material covered in a day and a half regarding RDA and indicated it was a lot
of work. He indicated that he goes to the seminars because he enjoys learning
and increasing his experience and knowledge of what the RDA can do. He
noted that there is still the potential to make millions for the community. He
commented that the money invested in informing the Councilmembers is
beneficial. He listed legislation pertaining to RDA which is currently
pending and stressed the importance of attending seminars and keeping
informed of changes.
5) Noted that the City gives proclamations to a lot of people and noted two
people lost from the community who never received one, being Jess
Rodriguez and Hilda Barnhart. He stressed the dedication and love for the
Community shown by Mr. Rodriguez and encouraged the Mayor to present
Mr. Rodriguez's family with recognition.
6) Advised that he goes to trial on the 14 ". He commented that this is a
wonderful country with a great judicial system to protect those accused of
crimes. He indicated that the Grand Jury is not interested in the truth, only
information, and they work directly for the District Attorney; suggesting that
this is a lousy system. He indicated that he will exercise every one of his
rights allowed by the Constitution. He expressed concern with comments that
he would not be present at the next meeting, and indicated that he will still be
on the Council in 1999 and run again in 1999. He indicated that he will not
allow a judge or jury to remove him without a fight. He expressed thanks to
God that he could afford to fight for his seat, so he could honor his family and
leave no debts when he leaves the world. He suggested that interested parties
call him at home if they want to know what will happen.
E -CITY COUNCIL MINUTES - SEPTEMBER 8,1998
Mayor Pape commented on the following:
1) Noted the campground opening and indicated that it was good to see it back
open with a lot of people enjoying it. He noted the efforts by Eagle Scout
candidates and expressed appreciation for their assistance.
2) Indicated that the Library entrance is in the back of the building to meet ADA
requirements for a wheelchair ramp. He noted the iron gated area in the
front was designed as a patio area and will be used that way in the future.
City Manager Watenpaugh noted that the downtown business representatives had
requested that people attending meetings at the Cultural Center, park in the lot
across the street instead of in front of the businesses on the street.
CLOSED SESSION
A. CONFERENCE WITH LEGAL COUNSEL - ANTICIPATED LITIGATION
(Initiation of litigation pursuant to subdivision ( c ) of Section 54956.9) - 1
case.
As previously noted, City Attorney Leibold indicated that there was no need for the
above listed discussion.
ADJOURNMENT
THE REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING WAS ADJOURNED AT 7:25
P.M.
VIN W. PAPE, MAYOR
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
ATTEST:
.VICKI;KASAD, CITY CLERK
C ITY'OF LAKE ELSINORE
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REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
183 NORTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA
TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 22, 1998
CALL TO ORDER
The Regular City Council Meeting was called to order by Mayor Pape at 7:05 p.m.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
The Pledge of Allegiance was led by City Manager Watenpaugh.
INVOCATION
The Invocation was provided by Alfred Macias representing 1st Assembly of God
Church.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: ALONGI, KELLEY, PAPE
ABSENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: BRINLEY, METZE
Also present were: City Manager Watenpaugh, City Attorney Leibold,
Administrative Services Director Boone, Community Development Director
Brady, Community Services Director Sapp, Fire Chief Seabert, Police Chief
Walsh, Assistant to the City Manager Best and City Clerk Kasad.
PRESENTATIONS
a. Presentation -Ricky Weston. (F:56.1)
Mayor Pape expressed pride in his Ricky Weston's accomplishment of being
appointed to the State School Board. He read and presented the Award of
Merit and explained that Ricky is the only student in the State to serve on the
School Board for this year. He read and presented the Proclamation to Ricky
and inquired into the difficulty of the process to be appointed to this position.
Ricky explained the year long process for selection and noted his disbelief at
being chosen. Mayor Pape questioned Ricky's plans after graduation from
Temescal Canyon. Ricky indicated that he is investigating college, but has
not decided on one yet; however he will be majoring in chemical engineering.
b. Presentation - Unity in Community Parade. (17:62.1)
Jeannie Corral advised that the Unity in Community Parade is slated for
November 14'i; noting that this is the second attempt at a parade
incorporating all of the Schools. She noted that Ricky Weston will be
honored in the parade, as well as Mr. Quimby of Withrow Elementary
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School. She indicated that last year there were about 2,000 students
participating in the parade, and indicated that there are many things to
celebrate within the Community. She encouraged interested clubs, church
organizations or other groups to contact either Kathy at 67 -8423 or herself at
674 -4228. She stressed the interest in making this a very nice parade and
noted that last year there were 40 entries and there is already in excess of
2,000 young people interested in participating this year. She further stressed
that this parade is intended as a celebration of achievements and
accomplishments. She offered the City council the opportunity to participate
by judging the parade. She advised that the parade will step off at 10:30 a.m.
from the Community center and follow the traditional parade route through
the downtown. She expressed hopes that the parade would exceed last year's
20 minute parade. She noted that both high school bands will be participating
and noted the high quality performance of those bands.
CONSENT CALENDAR
MOVED BY KELLEY, SECONDED BY ALONGI AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO APPROVE THE CONSENT
CALENDAR AS PRESENTED.
1. The following Minutes were approved:
a. Regular City Council Meeting - September 8, 1998. (17:44.)
The following Minutes were received and filed:
b. Planning Commission Meeting - September 2, 1998. (17:60.3)
C. Design Review Committee Meeting - September 2, 1998. (F:60.4)
2. Ratified Warrant List for September 15, 1998. (F:12.3)
3. Received and ordered filed the Investment Report for July, 1998. (F:12.5)
4. Awarded Contract for 1998/99 Traffic Striping and Pavement Marking to PCI
Paving Contractors in the amount of $64,983. (F:156.1)
BUSINESS ITEMS
31. Industrial Project No. 98 -1 located at 571 Birch Street. (17:86.2)
City Manager Watenpaugh highlighted this item and the proposed project.
MOVED BY KELLEY, SECONDED BY ALONGI AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO APPROVE INDUSTRIAL
PROJECT 98 -1 AND APPROVE MITIGATED NEGATIVE DECLARATION
NO. 98 -2, BASED ON THE FOLLOWING FINDINGS AND EXHIBITS 'A'
THROUGH 'D', AND SUBJECT TO THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS OF
APPROVAL.
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FINDINGS
1. Subject to the attached Conditions of Approval the proposed project is not
anticipated to result in any significant adverse environmental impacts.
2. The project as proposed complies with the Goals, Objectives, and Policies
of the General Plan, and the Zoning District in which it is located.
3. Conditions and safeguards pursuant to Chapter 17.82.070 of the Zoning
Code, including guarantees and evidence of compliance with conditions,
have been incorporated into the approval of the subject project to ensure
development of the property in accordance with the Objectives of Chapter
17.82.
PLANNING DIVISION CONDITIONS
1. Design Review approval for Industrial Project No. 98 -1 will lapse and be
void unless building permits are issued within one (1) year of City Council
approval. The Community Development Director may grant an extension
of time of up to one (1) year per extension, prior to the expiration of the
initial Design Review approval. Application for a time extension must be
submitted to the City of Lake Elsinore one (1) month prior to the expiration
date.
2. Conditions of Approval shall be reproduced on page one of building plans
submitted to the Building Division Plan Check. All Conditions of Approval
shall be met prior to the issuance of a Certificate of Occupancy and release
of utilities.
3. All site improvements approved with this request shall be constructed as
indicated on the approved site plan and elevations. Revisions to approved
site plans or building elevations shall be subject to the review of the
Community Development Director. All plans submitted for Building
Division Plan Check shall conform to the submitted plans as modified by
Conditions of Approval, or the Planning Commission/City Council through
subsequent action.
4. All roof mounted or ground support air conditioning units or other
mechanical equipment incidental to development shall be architecturally
screened or shielded by landscaping so that they are not visible from
neighboring property or public streets. Any roof mounted central swamp
coolers shall also be screened, and the Community Development Director,
prior to issuance of building permit shall approve screening plan.
5. Applicant shall comply with the requirements of the Elsinore Valley
Municipal Water District. Proof shall be presented to the Chief Building
Official prior to issuance of building permits and final approval.
6e Applicant shall comply with all Mitigation Measures per Mitigated
Negative Declaration 98 -2.
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7. All exterior on -site lighting shall be shielded and directed on -site so as not
create glare onto neighboring property and streets or allow illumination
above the horizontal plane of the fixture. The light fixture proposed is to
match the architecture of the building.
8. All loading zones shall be clearly marked with yellow striping and shall
meet City Standards for Type `B' loading zones.
9. Applicant shall meet ADA (Americans with Disabilities Act) requirements.
10. Ne ^^ *a^^° storage ska4l wP Allowed. Outdoor storage areas shall be
permitted only in conjunction with the onsite business use. All storage
areas shall be enclosed on all sides with a screen a minimum of six feet (6 )
in height subject to the Community Development Director or Designees
approval.
11. Trash enclosures shall be constructed per City standards as approved by the
Community Development Director.
12. No exterior roof ladders shall be permitted.
13. Applicant shall use roofing materials with Class "A" fire rating.
14. All exterior downspouts shall be painted to match with building exterior
color.
15. The Planning Division shall approve any construction trailers utilized
during construction.
16. Materials and colors depicted on the plans and materials board shall be used
unless modified by the Community Development Director or designee.
17. On -site surface drainage shall not cross sidewalks.
18. Parking stalls shall be double- striped with four -inch (4 ") lines two feet (2')
apart.
19. The Community Development Director or designee shall approve any
signage.
20. The final landscaping/irrigation plan is to be reviewed and approved by the
City's Landscape Architect Consultant and the Community Development
Director or designee, prior to issuance of building permit. A landscape Plan
Check Fee will be charged prior to final landscape approval based on the
Consultant's fee plus forty percent (40 %).
a. All planting areas shall have permanent and automatic sprinkler system
with 100% plant and grass coverage using a combination of drip and
conventional irrigation methods.
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b. All planting areas shall be separated from paved areas with a six -inch
(6 ") high and six -inch (6 ") wide concrete curb.
c. Planting within fifteen feet (15') of ingress /egress points shall be no
higher than thirty -six inches (36 ").
d. Any transformers and mechanical or electrical equipment shall be
indicated on landscape plan and screened as part of the landscaping plan.
e. The landscape plan shall provide for ground cover, shrubs, and trees and
meet all requirements of the City's adopted Landscape Guidelines.
Special attention to the use of Xeriscape or drought resistant plantings
with combination drip irrigation system to be used to prevent excessive
watering.
f. All landscape improvements shall be bonded 120% Faithful Performance
Bond, and released at completion of installation of landscape
requirements approval /acceptance, and bond 100% for material and labor
for one (1) year.
g. Final landscape plan must be consistent with approved site plan.
h. Final landscape plans to include planting and irrigation details.
21. All exposed slopes in excess of three feet (3') in height shall have a
permanent irrigation system and erosion control vegetation installed,
approved by the Planning Division.
22. A six -foot (6') decorative concrete block wall shall be constructed at the
front forty -six feet (46') of the southerly boundary. A four foot, eight inch
(4'8 ") retaining wall with a six -foot (6') wrought iron fence on top, will be
constructed on the remainder of the southerly property line and the westerly
boundary line. The total height of both walls will be ten feet two inches
(10'2 ").
23. Prior to issuance of any grading permit or building permits, the applicant
shall sign and complete an "Acknowledgement of Conditions" form and
shall return the executed original to the Planning Division for inclusion in
the case records.
24. Prior to issuance of building permits, applicant shall provide assurance that
all ,required fees to the Lake Elsinore Unified School District have been
paid.
25. Prior to issuance of building permits, applicant shall provide assurance that
all requirements of the Riverside County Fire Department have been met.
26. Prior to issuance of building permits, applicant shall pay park -in -lieu fee in
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effect at time of building permit issuance.
ENGINEERING DIVISION
27. All Public Works requirements shall be complied with as a condition of
development as specified in the Lake Elsinore Municipal Code (LEMC) prior
to building permit.
28. Pay all Capital Improvement and Plan Check fees (LEMC 16.34, Res. 85 -26).
29. Submit a "Will Serve" letter to the City Engineering Division from the
applicable water agency stating that water and sewer arrangements have been
made for this project. Submit this letter prior to applying for a building
permit.
30. If the existing street improvements are to be modified the existing street plans
on file shall be modified accordingly and approved by the City Engineer prior
to issuance of building permit. An encroachment permit will be required to do
the work.
31. Pay all fees and meet requirements of an encroachment permit issued by the
Engineering Division for construction of off -site public works improvements
(LEMC12.08, Res.83 -78). All fees and requirements for an encroachment
permit shall be fulfilled before Certificate of Occupancy.
32. If grading exceeds 50 cubic yards, grading plans shall be prepared by a Civil
Engineer Registered in the State of California and approved prior to grading
permit issuance. Prior to any grading, the applicant shall obtain a grading
permit and post appropriate security.
33. On -site drainage shall be conveyed to a public facility or accepted by adjacent
property owners by a letter of drainage acceptance or conveyed to a drainage
easement. The entire site should be graded to drain to Birch Street.
34. All natural drainage traversing the site shall be conveyed through the site, or
shall be collected and conveyed by a method approved by the City
Engineer.
35. Roof must drain to a landscaped area.
36. Meet all requirements of LEMC 15.64 regarding flood hazard regulations.
37. Meet all requirements of LEMC 15.68 regarding floodplain management.
38. The project site is in Flood Zone AO and the finished floor elevation of the
building must be one (1) foot above the adjacent grade.
39. The applicant to provide FEMA elevation certificates prior to certificate of
occupancies.
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40. Developer shall contribute $1000 toward the design and construction of a
traffic signal at Collier Ave. and Central Avenue. This development will
increase traffic at the intersection at least 0.5 % and should contribute 0.5 %
toward construction.
32. Map and Area Guide. (F:64.2)
City Manager Watenpaugh gave an overview of a proposal for the
Campgrounds from Southeast Publications. He noted that they are
requesting a 3 -year contract and exclusive rights to sell the ads for
publication of the Campground as well as a letter of introduction, from the
City, to be used when soliciting ads. He stated that staff recommends
approval of the contract between Southeast Publications and the City of
Lake Elsinore to publish a site map and area guide for the Lake Elsinore
Recreation Area.
City Attorney Leibold noted that the agreement by Southeast Publications
calls for an automatic renewal unless the City terminates 90 days prior to
the renewal date. She stated that her preference would be that the term of
the agreement be precise and could be renewed in writing by the City. She
further noted that the staff report provides that the staff would have final
approval over the ads and copy consistent with the standards established by
the agreement and explained that she did not see that in the body of the
agreement. She indicated that this should be clarified. City Attorney
Leibold noted that there is a provision for attorney's fees however it is not
mutual and typically if there are attorney's fees they are mutual. She stated
that in the event that the City enters into some sort of concession agreement
or contracts with another party to assist with the operation of the
Campground, should the agreement have the option to be canceled by the
City if the operator has independent authority to negotiate.
Councilman Alongi asked the City Attorney what difference would it make
in regard to cancellation of the contract if we subleased the Campground to
an independent concessionaire since there is no fiscal impact. He stated that
they could run their own ads and asked why we would want to interfere with
additional advertisement. He noted that he does not know what the
circulation of the magazine will be and he feels that the City would want as
much advertisement as possible to attract people from out of the area and
out of State to our area. He further questioned the letter of introduction,
from the City, to be used when soliciting ads and asked what type of ads
will they be soliciting and does the City of Lake Elsinore agree to use that
letter to solicit ads. He stated that there might be some ads that the City
does not want to be attached to.
City Attorney Leibold stated that it would be a matter of negotiations with a
potential concessionaire. She noted that the operators might want the
freedom to develop their own map and advertising. She noted that if the
City enters into this agreement with Southeast, it provides for an exclusive
right to this type of mapping and advertisement. She indicated that the City
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can enter into negotiations with the concessionaire which require that they
take over the Campground subject to existing agreements, however she
raised the issue in case Council wished to provide greater flexibility to a
potential concessionaire. Councilman Alongi stated that even if the City
enters into a contract with a concessionaire the City does not know what
their performance and if they do a good job then at the end of three years
they can cancel the contract with Southeast and go on from there, however
if they do not do a good job, then the City would have lost a lot of good
time and advertisement for our Campground. He stressed that the City
intends to invest a lot of money into the park and he would like to protect
the advertisement for the Campground since it has no fiscal impact on our
budget and will aid in revenue for the City. City Attorney Leibold noted
that Southeast has not had the opportunity to review her suggestions and
they may not be willing to accept the cancellation clause, however she felt
that this would give fairness to a potential concessionaire. She noted that
the type of advertising that Southeast does is local advertising and would be
soliciting to local businesses that wish to advertise for the people who use
the campground. She stated that is why she wants the City to have final
approval over the ads and the copy. She explained that in the opening
statement of the contract it should be made clear that it is the intent that
Southeast is going to solicit for advertisements within the community.
Mayor Pape displayed the pamphlet to the audience and explained that it
caters to the people who have Recreational Vehicles and has a map as well
as the rules of the Campground. He explained that it is an informational
pamphlet available to the campers to advise them of the Campground and
the businesses available. He indicated that the City will receive 3,000 of the
pamphlets to distribute as we choose and he feels that the comments by the
City Attorney are appropriate and should be considered since it give the
City options for the future to allow adjustments.
Mayor Pro Tem Kelley noted that she was recently in the Campground
filming a segment for Vision and Views and commented that the pamphlet
will provide valuable information. She noted that the contract does provide
for 3,000 pamphlets every 12 months and stated her appreciation of the City
Attorney's comments. Mayor Pro Tem Kelley agreed with the termination
of the contract every 36 months and noted that in the body of the contract
they receive a complimentary site. She stated that as a footnote to her
comments that last weekend the Campground generated revenue of $7,444.
She noted that 250 campsites were occupied.
MOVED BY PAPE, SECONDED BY KELLEY AND CARRIED BY A
UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO APPROVE THE
CONTRACT BETWEEN SOUTHEAST PUBLICATIONS AND THE CITY
TO PUBLISH A SITE MAP AND AREA GUIDE FOR THE LAKE
ELSINORE RECREATION AREA WITH AMENDMENTS TO THE
CONTRACT TO ADDRESS NON - AUTOMATIC RENEWAL, THE RIGHT
TO REVIEW ADS AND MAP COLORS, MUTUAL ATTORNEY FEES
AND THE RIGHT TO CANCEL THE CONTRACT IF THE
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CAMPGROUNDS IS CONTRACTED TO A CONCESSIONAIRE.
33. Riverside County Transportation Commission's Request for Funding
Support of Major Railroad Improvements — Resolution 98 -34. (F:140.19)
City Manager Watenpaugh explained that RCTC is requesting support to
allow the RCTC to secure State and Federal funds to improve the main
railroad corridors of the Burlington Northern Santa Fe and Union Pacific
where they cross at the Colton junction.
Susan Cornelison, Rail Program Manager, gave a background of the rail
system and the problems that are faced between rail freight and passenger
trains. She noted that Colton Junction has been identified as a major choke
point and RCTC is working to streamline the junction along with the
railway companies. She explained that the State has directed Caltrans to
begin a Project Study Report, which will further define the project and assist
preliminary design work.. She gave an overview of the Rail Bond Funding
and how it is being spent.
Mayor Pape clarified that RCTC is looking for the City's support in
obtaining funding from the State. Ms. Cornelison concurred.
Councilman Alongi asked if this action that RCTC is taking would ease the
problem of freight trains taking priority over passenger trains. He
commented that his daughter had taken the train and was hours late due to a
freight train having first right -of -way. Ms. Cornelison explained that
Councilman Alongi's daughter was on a different rail system. Councilman
Alongi asked if this junction would change the Santa Ana to Monterey ride.
Ms. Cornelison stated that it would not since it was the coastal route.
Linda Nanetti, questioned why Council would even consider this action
since there is no rail system through Lake Elsinore. She noted that if more
money is needed it should be put the voters to decide what should be done.
She stated that she could understand this action if this was Colton or San
Bernardino where the problem exists, however she felt that this is the
railway's problem and not the City's problem.
Susan Cornelison stated that is why they are not asking the local cities to
contribute, however they are asking for support to seek Federal and State
funds to support their efforts. She noted that the City of Lake Elsinore
through a resolution helped the RCTC and San Bernardino Associated
Governments form a task force that was successful in getting the California
High Speed Rail Commission to realign the high speed rail line that is
proposed to run along the I -15 and I -215 north. She noted that this would
allow access to Lake Elsinore and Temecula as well as the City of Perris.
She noted that there must be an adequate feeder system of other rail systems
of transit services to be able to make a case for high -speed rail in California.
She noted that if mass rapid transit is to work then they must show that they
have connectivity. Ms. Cornelison explained that although the rail does not
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come directly through Lake Elsinore a large number of its citizens use the
passenger rail system out of the West Corona Station.
Mayor Pape noted that this action will not involve any dollars from the City
and he could not see the down side of government agencies working
together for the betterment of the region.
MOVED BY PAPE, SECONDED BY ALONGI AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO APPROVE THE
REQUEST FOR SUPPORT BY RIVERSIDE COUNTY
TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION FOR MAJOR RAILROAD
IMPROVEMENT BY RESOLUTION NO. 98-34 AS FOLLOWS:
RESOLUTION NO. 98-34
A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF LAKE
ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA, IN SUPPORT OF RAILROAD TO
RAILROAD GRADE SEPARATION PROJECT AT COLTON,
CALIFORNIA.
City Manager Watenpaugh noted for the general information of the Council
and audience that the impact of the crossings has an impact on our air
quality in Lake Elsinore due to traffic congestion caused by trains being
backed up. He noted that this action would have a positive impact directly
on the City.
34. Request for Support of Proposition 9 - Resolution No 98 -35. (F:96.1)
City Manager Watenpaugh explained that this is a request for the City's
support in opposition to Proposition 9.
Mr. Fred Francia, Regional Manager of Southern California Edison,
explained that Southern California Edison and the Southern California Gas
Company are members of a statewide coalition in opposition to Proposition
9, which will be on the ballot in November. He noted the agencies and
organizations that are opposed to the proposition, He further explained that
Proposition 9 would nullify the progress made to date; nullify the rate
reduction bonds; make the taxpayer accountable for a $6 billion dollar
deficit; and nullify the 10% rate reduction. Mr. Francia noted the City
activity in economic development and the impact that Proposition 9 would
have on growth. He asked that the City of Lake Elsinore support opposition
to Proposition 9 through a resolution.
Jim King, Regional Manager of Southern California Gas Company, noted
the cost to the citizens of State of California and explained that it will
impact businesses as well. He asked that the Council vote in favor of the
resolution to oppose Proposition 9.
Mayor Pape then called upon Council for comment.
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Mayor Pro Tem Kelley stressed that VWRCOG did pass a resolution to
oppose Proposition 9. Mayor Pape noted the amount of organization in
opposition to Proposition 9.
MOVED BY KELLEY, SECONDED BY PAPE TO APPROVE ADOPTION OF
RESOLUTION NO. 98 -35 IN OPPOSITION TO THE 1998 ELECTRIC UTILITY
PROPOSITION.
Councilman Alongi stated that he feels that the voters should decide this
issue in November. He explained that each person should weigh both sides
of an issue before it is decided and this should be done on an individual
basis. He stated that he would not approve or disapprove this issue as a
Councilmember because he feels that it send a wrong message to people.
He stressed that people should study the facts before they vote on something
and decide for themselves. He noted that some of the organizations listed in
opposition he does not approve of and feels that they have a special agenda.
He noted that if the Mayor wished to write a letter in opposition to
Proposition 9 he felt that would be appropriate as well as the other
Councilmembers writing letters, however he does not feel that it is
appropriate for elected officials to take a position on propositions. He noted
that he does not want his name to appear on any item and does not want a
letter sent on behalf of the City indicating that Councilman Alongi voted on
the issue one way or the other.
THE FOREGOING MOTION WAS APPROVED BY A 2 -1 VOTE WITH
ALONGI CASTING THE DISSENTING VOTE, AND BRINLEY AND
METZE ABSENT.
RESOLUTION NO. 98 -35
A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF LAKE
ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA, IN OPPOSITION TO THE 1998
ELECTRIC UTILITY PROPOSITION (LOCAL GOVERNMENT).
THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING WAS RECESSED AT 7:58 P.M.
THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING RECONVENED AT 8:20 P.M.
PUBLIC COMMENTS
Linda Nanetti, 16293 Cimarron, suggested that it was convenient that the State
Auditor's Report came out the day after the last Council Meeting. She questioned
why the Council would jeopardize the property owners through their property taxes.
She suggested that this would take money from west end fire station, community
center, and youth activities; and indicated the City can't afford to double up on
things. She expressed concern that the resident are being cut short and stressed the
importance of maintaining financial accountability. She inquired if it would be
possible to establish an independent citizen's committee to review and question
proposed annual funding. She suggested that the committee could support or
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oppose funding as needed. She indicated that it was only fair to have some
community input on the spending, instead of closed session business deals.
Mayor Pape clarified that the bond financing addressed in the Auditor's report has
nothing to do with the General Fund.
James Gray, 15159 Mimosa, noted that he lives in CFD 88 -3 and thanked everyone
for the positive responses he has received. He indicated that there are currently
150 neighbors known as United Neighbors of the West End District. He issued a
warning that there is not adequate fire protection for the area, and stressed that
seconds do matter in response times. He indicated that response times could be cut
in half with the new station, and commented that the Mayor has promised to push
for the station for the last four years. He further indicated that only $250,000 is
needed for operations in the year 2000. He noted that the funding is already on
deposit. He commented that the President should resign and questioned if the
Mayor recognizes when he isn't telling the truth. He suggested that this matter be
placed on the next agenda so the Council will do the right thing.
Chris Hyland, 15191 Wavecrest, indicated she was present to make a big complaint,
and noted that she tried to get a particular office at City Hall and could not get
through or get voice mail. She noted that the City Clerk has multiple jobs and
questioned why there was not a staff member to do menial tasks in the City Clerk's
office. She suggested downsizing of the Community Services office because the
City doesn't have community service. She indicated that she was appalled by recent
raises in salary and questioned the job of the Community Services Manager. She
suggested shifting staff from Community Services to the City Clerk's office.
CITY MANAGER COMMENTS
City Manager Watenpaugh indicated that he would not address what Community
Services does, but stressed that the parks are open and operating. He clarified that
the State Audit stated that the City did nothing illegal, but they did use the word
"questionable ". He noted that the bond process was reviewed within a vacuum and
they did not seek clarification. He stressed that the community needs to understand
the financial program changed two years ago, and the Council has stuck with the
program and resolved several major issues. He further stressed that the audit did
not take into account that it was a work -out program. He indicated that he is proud
of the finance team and the bonds are now selling above par. He stressed that the
audit found no criminal actions. He noted his frustration with the audience and
indicated that it was difficult to remain professional. He indicated that Mr. Gray
was correct that the funds are available for the fire station and it will happen. He
complimented City staff and the City Council on the tough times the City has come
through.
CITY ATTORNEY COMMENTS
City Attorney Leibold announced the two listed Closed Session items and noted that
there was another item which needed to be added after posting of the Agenda under
Government Code Section 54956.9 ( c ) and noted that it would require concurrence
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of the three members present to add it to the agenda.
MOVED BY ALONGI, SECONDED BY KELLEY AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO ADD THE THIRD
CLOSED SESSION ITEM TO THE AGENDA.
CITY COUNCIL COMMENTS
Councilman Alongi commented on the following:
1. Announced that there will be a program at the Elsinore High School for
Carley Black. He noted that former Councilman Fred Dominguez was her
Grandfather. The program will be on Friday, September 25, 1998, at 7:30
a.m. and will be a tree dedication ceremony in her honor. He noted that the
Children of the City of Lake Elsinore are our future and when the City
looses someone like Carley, then it is not only a tragedy for the family, but
also for the community. He expressed his sympathies to the family.
2. He commented that the bonds are very complicated and stated that if there
was going to be a Public Financing Authority, then Council should make
appointments to that Authority of people that are in the area of finance. He
stated that Council is not qualified to make Authority decisions. He noted
Council's lack of qualifications and explained that Council must follow
direction on blind faith. He stated that if Mr. Gunn had been with the City
six and one -half years ago, this City would not be in the predicament that it
finds it self in today. He stated that there might not be a ball field, however
the money would still be in the City. He noted that he still has his
reservations about the bonds, however he does not have enough knowledge
to understand them and explained that the people who are really responsible
for the bonds are the people that buy the homes. He stressed that however,
this is not the case in the City and we took $500,000 from the RDA to bail
out a bond and $50,000 to back the payment of the bond as well as
$1,000,000 for additional fees. He noted that it was not Mr. Gunn's fault,
however it was the fault of the previous Council. Councilman Alongi noted
that the City is in a very precarious position and something has to be done.
He further noted that he does not agree with refinancing, but it was
necessary in this instance. He stated that although he may disagree with
Council, he does support their efforts to try and address the financial issues
of the City.
3. Commented on a report about the Historic Downtown and the statement that
the Downtown Business Association failed with the Street Faire and now it
is a success. He noted that when the Downtown Business Association had
the Faire, they sold out and could not take anymore vendors but the Council
seated at that time interfered and it failed. He stressed that this Council has
stepped out of the picture and the Faire is a success.
4. Noted the activities that occur in Red Bluff, California and the success they
experience. He noted that they have activities almost every weekend and
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this City should be doing the same thing for our Downtown to show the
people that we are proud of our community.
5. Commented again on the bonds and stated that refinancing the bonds over
and over again is not proper and is not illegal, however it is foolish.
6. Responded to the Newspaper and stated that the purpose of the
postponements in his trial are caused by the District Attorney. He noted
that the District Attorney failed to provide a list of witnesses for the first
postponement and the second was also caused by the District Attorney
because he accepted additional evidence after he had submitted from the
Grand Jury and a disclosure was not provided to him or his attorney. He
stated that justice is for the winner and there is no justice for the looser and
there is no truth in the system. He noted that in the system it is reasonable
doubt. He stated that the Californian is the only paper that printed the
continuances and whey he was going to court. He read an article from the
Sun Tribune that noted that he had asked for a retraction of the statement
that it was criminal actions and stressed that it is not a criminal case, but
rather a civil case. He stated that this is a matter him making decisions that
he felt were right and is a matter of Mr. Alongi versus the system. He stated
that it does not have anything to do with another member of the Council just
himself and he is being challenged. He challenged Councilman Metze to go
to the courts to understand the right of postponement. He stated that it is his
right to be sure that he and his attorney have all the available information
prior to going to trial and the jury will make the decision. He stated that the
Mayor does not understand that he controls the situation, not the District
Attorney, the trial nor the judge. He noted that the jury makes the decision
and quoted a song by Dolly Patron "You can take this job and shove it ", and
the minute he does the whole thing goes away. He stressed that it is a moot
point and carries no probation, no fine, and no jail sentence. He further
stressed that it carries nothing except his Council seat. Councilman Alongi
stated that he is willing to spend the $30,000 or $40,000 to protect his seat
of $300. He stated that he is sick and tired of hearing the Mayor and
Councilman Metze with their comments in the newspapers because they are
stupid. He stated that they have no idea what the system is all about; they
have no idea that we have rights as citizens of the United States of America;
we have a right to a fair trial; and know what is against us. He stated that
the Mayor shows his ignorance when he makes comments that he knows
absolutely nothing about and could cause a mistrial through their comments.
He stated that he refused to change venue because he felt that the people in
this community and Riverside County should have the right to know what is
going on in the City of Lake Elsinore and what the previous Council has
done with our RDA money and the rest of it, however if the Mayor and
Councilman Metze keep shooting their mouth off in the newspaper, they
will find that they have made a big mistake. He read an article in a paper
from San Bernardino regarding their RDA and noted that is why he is taking
this legal action. Councilman Alongi explained that RDA is the most
important entity that any City has and this Council and previous Councils
have broke the RDA, it removed any opportunity that the City had to raise
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additional revenues. He presented a list of houses that the City is going to
tear down and noted that all of the houses mentioned are in an RDA and if
the funds were available, the City could have demolished the old houses and
built new ones to take their place. This action would take these areas and
remove slums and turn the area into good low and moderate income housing
for low- income families. He noted that in RDA law it says if RDA funds
are used to take a house down, then it must be replaced. He stated that is
why he is willing to pay the price and go through what he is going through
because he feels that this seat is that important. He stated that there is no
case law for what he is going through. He stated that he did not take
anything from this community nor did he steal anything from this
community. He noted that a former Mayor took a $100,000 loan for his
building and then voted to give that person a $4,500 loan and does not have
to pay it back and then took a $21,000+ loan on a building that he was part
owner in and then did not pay the City back. He stressed that is a criminal
act and all that he received is a small fine from the FPPC. He stated that if
the Mayor and Councilman Metze do not shut their mouths, then they are
going to hear from his every Council Meeting because he is sick of it.
Mayor Pro Tern Kelley commented on the following:
1) Reminded the public about the library re- opening on October 17'x', and noted
that the Council approved a street closure for the event. She noted that the
patio is now enclosed, and cemented with tables and umbrellas.
2) Noted that there were two accidents at the intersection of Dexter /74 and she
has received several questions about the status of the stop light there. Staff
advised that the signal poles are due by mid - November, the controller is due
in November and it should be in operation in December. It was noted that
there are some delays with the Burger King, but staff is doing everything
possible to expedite the installation.
3) Reminded everyone of the National Skydiving Competition, October 15 - 18
and encouraged everyone to attend.
4) Congratulated Ricky Weston on his appointment to the State Board of
Education, and noted that the only other person appointed from this area was
Ricky's brother.
5) Congratulated Bruce Quimby on his recognition as Co- administrator of the
year for the State.
6) Expressed condolences to Carley Black's family, and noted that she would
keep them in her prayers.
7) Advised that she spoke with Councilwoman Brinley and agr&zd to let
everyone know that she is feeling much better. She also noted that Nlrs.
Brinley sent thanks for the cards, notes, flowers and the outpouring of
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generosity.
Mayor Pape commented on the following:
1) Noted that Lake use is up and detailed the activity from April 1 to September
19 of this year. He noted that the income has increased 21% over that of
1997. He stressed the number of events occurring on the Lake and advised
that every dollar generated goes back into the Lake.
2) Advised that the Campground had been open from September 4 thru 18 with
total revenue over $7,400, which will go back into its maintenance.
3) Noted the tragic loss of Carley Black on the Ortega Highway and commented
that the funeral was well attended, but difficult for everyone. He offered
thoughts and prayers to the family.
CLOSED SESSION
A. CONFERENCE WITH LEGAL COUNSEL - ANTICIPATED LITIGATION
(Initiation of litigation pursuant to subdivision ( c ) of Section 54956.9) - 1
Case.
B. CONFERENCE WITH LEGAL COUNSEL - EXISTING LITIGATION -
City of Lake Elsinore vs. Ranel Development Company - Case 4213915.
City Attorney Leibold announced the above listed items and noted the inclusion of
an additional case under Item A.
THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING WAS RECESSED TO CLOSED SESSION AT
8:56 P.M. FOR DISCUSSION OF THE ABOVE LISTED ITEMS.
THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING RECONVENED AT 9:58 P.M. NO ACTION
TAKEN.
ADJOURNMENT
THE REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING
P.M.
V W. PAW, MAYOR
OF LAKE ELSINORE
ATTEST:
VICKI KASAI2,, CITY CLERK
CITY 07 LAIa ELSINORE
ADJOURNED AT 10:00
MINUTES
SPECIAL CITY COUNCIL MEETING
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
130 SOUTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA
TUESDAY, OCTOBER 6, 1998
CALL TO ORDER
The Special City Council Meeting was called to order by Mayor Pape at 4:01 p.m.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: ALONGI, KELLEY, PAPE
ABSENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: BRINLEY, METZE
Also present were: City Manager Watenpaugh, City Attorney Leibold,
Administrative Services Director Boone and Financial Advisor Gunn.
CLOSED SESSION
CONFERENCE WITH LEGAL COUNSEL - EXISTING LITIGATION -
(Pursuant to subdivision (a) of Government Code Section 54956.9) - City of Lake
Elsinore vs. Mago Construction, Inc. & Bee Chu Lee - Case #293828. (F:52.1)
THE SPECIAL CITY COUNCIL MEETING WAS ADJOURNED TO
CLOSED SESSION FOR THE ABOVE LISTED DISCUSSION AT 4:02 P.M.
THE SPECIAL CITY COUNCIL MEETING RECONVENED AT 4:44 P.M.
WITH THE FOLLOWING ACTION REPORTED:
CITY COUNCIL DISCUSSED TERMS AND CONDITIONS OF
PROPOSED SETTLEMENT AND DIRECTED THE CITY
ATTORNEY TO PREPARE THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT.
ADJOURNMENT
THE SPECIAL CITY COUNCIL MEETING W
01%4 /
0146)
v W. PAP , MAYO R
OF LAKE ELSINORE
ATTEST:
VICKISAD, CYTY CLERK
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
ADJOURNED AT 4:45
MINUTES
REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
183 NORTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA
TUESDAY, OCTOBER 13, 1998
CALL TO ORDER
The Regular City Council Meeting was called to order by Mayor Pape at 7:01 p.m.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: ALONGI, KELLEY,
METZE, PAPE
ABSENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: BRINLEY
Also present were: City Manager Watenpaugh, City Attorney Leibold,
Administrative Services Director Boone, Community Development Director
Brady, Community Services Director Sapp, Police Chief Walsh, Fire Chief
Seabert, City Engineer O'Donnell and City Clerk Kasad.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
The Pledge of Allegiance was led by City Manager Watenpaugh.
INVOCATION
None.
PRESENTATIONS
a. Presentation — Business of the Quarte r. (F:56.1)
Mayor Pape announced that this Quarter's winner was Ron Satter, of Four
Corners ARCO. He noted that Four Corners has been a landmark for many
years and indicated that Mr. Satter had owned the old Four Corner Liquor
Store for many years and he has now built the new ARCO station. Mayor
Pape presented Mr. Satter with a plaque to be hung at the station denoting
them as outstanding business of the quarter for Summer, 1998. He also
noted that Four Corner ARCO would be included on the perpetual plaque
on display in City Hall.
Mr. Satter thanked the City and the Council for allowing them to put this
project together, and noted the approval nearly two years ago. He expressed
hopes that they could encourage further enhancement for the area. Mayor
Pape noted that they are now open 24 hours a day and employ fifteen
people.
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b. Presentation - Surface Mining & Reclamation Award. (17:56.1)
Continued to October 27, 1998, as representative of State Board could not
be present.
C. Presentation - Capital Projects Update. (17:30.3)
City Manager Watenpaugh noted that staff would provide an overview of
the project statuses.
Community Development Director Brady provided the project update, and
noted that the projects were approved as part of the budget process. He
detailed the projects including sixteen specific projects and three
miscellaneous projects, representing $2.5 million in improvements. He
advised that the Strickland Avenue Guardrail, Repaving of Mission Trail
and Kellogg Street Sidewalk and Access Ramp Improvements had been
completed. He further advised that the Dexter/Highway 74 Traffic Signal
project is underway and the equipment has been ordered. He noted that the
Casino Drive Bridge, Spring Street Pavement Project, Main Street Paving
Rehabilitation and the Highway 74/Lincoln Traffic Signal, Railroad Canyon
Median Landscaping and Pedestrian Crossing at the Outlet Channel are all
under design at this time. .
Mayor Pape inquired about the Dexter/Highway 74 Traffic Signal and noted
the level of interest in the Community. He asked if it would be safe to say
that it would be in by the time students are back from Christmas break.
Staff confirmed. He also questioned the timing for work to begin on Main
Street. City Engineer O'Donnell indicated that construction should start on
Main Street in the early summer.
Mayor Pro Tem Kelley inquired about the Railroad Canyon Median
Landscaping and what would be included. City Manager Watenpaugh
indicated that a summary of the design was underway. Community
Services Director Sapp indicated that staff is working on a design for
Railroad Canyon Road from Grape Street to the entry to Canyon Lake,
which will utilize a number of palm trees which are in jeopardy of being
destroyed. He further indicated that the project could use as many as 100 of
the palm trees with hardscape and reclaimed water irrigation lines. He
noted that staff is working with Pardee Development, who previously set
money aside for landscaping. Mayor Pape suggested this could be done by
February or March of next year. Mr. Sapp concurred.
Mayor Pro Tem Kelley reiterated that the trees would be relocated only if
they were in jeopardy. She further reiterated the importance of the
Dexter/Highway 74 Traffic Signal.
Mayor Pape questioned the Grand Avenue/Lakeshore Drive Project. Mr.
Sapp clarified the location and indicated that the project is scheduled for
February, 1999.
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Councilman Alongi inquired how much these projects would cost. Mr.
O'Donnell indicated that all of the projects. total about $2.5 million.
Councilman Alongi questioned projects for Bromley, Shrier and other
streets in that area. He expressed concern that other areas get new street,
noting that Mission Trail has been done three times since he has been on the
Council. He stressed the amount of money spent in some areas, while
nothing is spent in other areas. Mr. O'Donnell clarified that the City has not
paved any local streets in several years, as most of the money has been
spent on arterial streets. Mr. O'Donnell noted the recent project on
Gunnerson street to raise it. He noted the number of dirt streets and stressed
the limitations on funding for street improvements. Councilman Alongi
noted his understanding of the Gunnerson project, but stressed he would
like to know when the other streets will be included.
City Manager Watenpaugh suggested that with the next Slurry Seal project
the Council will have an opportunity to prioritize the projects.
PUBLIC COMMENTS — AGENDIZED ITEMS
None Requested.
Mayor Pape requested that the Council move to Item #22 and explained the
volume of documents received today. He suggested that with insufficient time to
review the documents, the issue should be continued to October 27� .
BUSINESS ITEMS
22. La Laguna Estates Specific Plan No. 92 -4 and Environmental Impact Report
No. 92 -2. Ordinance No. 1041 and Resolution No. 98 -37. (F:150.2)
MOVED BY PAPE, SECONDED BY METZE AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO CONTINUE THIS ITEM
TO OCTOBER 27, 1998.
CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS
Councilman Metze indicated that he would be abstaining on item no. La.
The following items were pulled from the Consent Calendar for further discussion
and consideration:
Item Nos. 4, 5 and 7.
MOVED BY KELLEY, SECONDED BY ALONGI AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO APPROVE THE
BALANCE OF THE CONSENT CALENDAR AS PRESENTED.
1. The following Minutes were approved by a vote of 3 to 0 with Brinley
absent and Metze abstaining:
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a. Special City Council Meeting — October 6, 1998 (17:44.4)
The following Minutes were received and ordered filed:
b. Planning Commission Meeting - September 16, 1998. (17:60.3)
C. Design Review Committee Meeting - September 16, 1998. (F:60.4)
2. Received and ordered filed the Investment Report for August, 1998.
(F:12.5)
3. Ratified Warrant List for September 30, 1998. (F:12.3)
6. Approved Renewal of Contract with Berryman & Henigar, Inc. for
Engineering/Plan Checking Services. (17:68.1)
8. Accepted Notice of Completion for the 'Strickland Avenue Guardrail
Improvements and authorized recordation, (F :156.2)
9. Accepted the dedication of the easement for Lennar Homes and approved
Quitclaim of portions of the easement no longer needed in Tuscany Hills
Tract 17413 -6, and authorized recordation. (F:160.2)
10. Approved Proclamation for Colonial Heritage Week and directed staff to
forward to the requestor. (F:122.1)
PUBLIC HEARINGS
31. General Plan Amendment No. 98 -5 and Zone Change 98 -4 - Assessor's
Parcel Numbers 363 -100 -016 and 022.. Resolution No. 98 -36 and
Ordinance No. 1040. (F:83.2)
Community Development Director Brady highlighted this request and its
location, noting the recommendations of the Planning Commission. He
advised that the proposal is consistent with the goals and objectives of the
General Plan.
Mayor Pape opened the public hearing at 7:21 p.m., asking those persons
interested in this item to speak. Hearing no one, the public hearing was
closed at 7:21 p.m:
Councilman Alongi indicated that he had a problem with the zone change as
it is in the middle of residential properties. He suggested that this would be
an ideal spot for multi - family to be developed because of the freeway
access, its proximity to the last such project built and the new traffic signal
in place to control traffic. He indicated that the community only has 8-
1/2% of its total development as multi - family, and only about 2% of the
area has enough ground for 12 units to the acre. He suggested that the more
this zoning is decreased, the more it pushes the minimum wage workers out
of the community. He addressed housing in San Jose, noting that they have
no housing for low income people; and are now starting to develop
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properties for minimum wage residents; He stressed the importance of
keeping young people in the community to spend money, grow and
advance. He indicated that the Mayor has a definite plan to put those people
out of the community and has already gotten sued and lot. He expressed
concern that the City is tearing down buildings, but not replacing them and
stressed that all residents are entitled to safe, quality housing. He
commented that the existing zoning allows for affordable housing and
reiterated that he is opposed to this type of zone change for the same reason
the Council did not want to put multi - family on Casino Drive; as this is
putting a commercial development in a residential area. He questioned how
trucks would access this location and reiterated that this would not be a
proper place to put it.
Councilman Metze indicated that he thinks this is the right thing to do, the
right use and exactly what the Council has been doing. He further indicated
that Railroad Canyon is being used for deliveries now and would continue
to be used. He also noted that there was no one present to speak for or
against the request.
Mayor Pro Tern Kelley noted that the location is surrounded by a mixture of
housing, vacant land and one multi - family development. She indicated that
it would make sense to have commercial development near the freeway.
She indicated that people would use Casino Drive.
Mayor Pape concurred that the proposed change would allow for the highest
and best use of the property. He also noted that if a car dealership was the
ultimate use, it would blend nicely with the existing development.
MOVED BY METZE, SECONDED BY KELLEY AND CARRIED BY A
VOTE OF 3 TO 1 WITH ALONGI CASTING THE DISSENTING VOTE
AND BRINLEY ABSENT TO ADOPT MITIGATED NEGATIVE
DECLARATION NO. 98-6, APPROVE GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT
NO. 98-5, ADOPT RESOLUTION 98 -36, APPROVE ZONE CHANGE NO.
98 -4 AND ADOPTED ORDINANCE NO. 1040 BASED ON THE
FOLLOWING FINDINGS AND SUBJECT TO THE FOLLOWING
CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL.
Findings - General Plan Amendment No. 98 -5
The proposed General Plan Amendment will not be: a) detrimental to the
health, safety, comfort or general welfare of the persons residing or working
within the neighborhood of the proposed amendment or within the City, or
b) injurious to the property or improvements in the neighborhood or within
the City.
2. The proposed General Plan Amendment will permit reasonable
development of the area consistent with its constraints and will make the
area more compatible with adjacent properties.
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The proposed General Plan Amendment would establish a land use density
and usage more in character with the subject property's location, access and
constraints.
4. The proposed General Plan Amendment will not have a significant effect on
the environment.
Findings - Zone Change No. 98 -4
The proposed zone change will not be: a) detrimental to the health, safety,
comfort or general welfare of the persons residing or working within the
neighborhood of the proposed amendment or within the City, or b) injurious
to property or improvements in the neighborhood or within the City.
2. The proposed action will be consistent with the Goals, Objectives and
Policies of the General Plan and the standards established in the Municipal
Code.
3. This project will not have a significant impact on the environment.
CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL FOR GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT NO.
(GPA) 98 -5 AND ZONE CHANGE NO. (ZQ 98 -4 (APN (S) 363 - 100 -016 AND
022).
The applicant shall enter into an acceptable impact mitigation agreement
with the Lake Elsinore School District prior to issuance of building permits
for the project
2. The applicant shall agree to join an Assessment District or contribute a fair
share for the cost of the realignment and improvements of Casino Drive and
Pottery Street extension, subject to the approval of the equitable spread of
the improvement costs.
ORDINANCE NO. 1040
AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA, CHANGING THE ZONING OF
6.26 GROSS ACRES ALONG FRANKLIN STREET (BANKROFT)
AND CASINO DRIVE FROM R -1 (SINGLE - FAMILY)
RESIDIENTIAL ZONING) TO C -2 (GENERAL COMMERICLA) -
ZONE CHANGE 98 -4.
UPON THE FOLLOWING ROLL CALL VOTE:
AYES: COUNCILMEMBERS: KELLEY, METZE, PAPE
NOES: COUNCILMEMBERS: ALONGI
ABSENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: BRINLEY
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ABSTAIN: COUNCILMEMBERS: NONE
BUSINESS ITEMS
31. Multi- Family Housing Development Moratorium Study. (F:87.1)
City Manager Watenpaugh stated that Community Development Director
Brady would be presenting the report, however he noted that during the
summer the City employed a interne that gathered the data to assist in
formulating this report.
Community Development Director Brady noted that several persons in the
Community Development Department formed the report and Senior Planner
Villa did all of the coordination of the project. He noted that the
Moratorium for Multi- Family Housing Development is set to expire on
October 21, 1998. He further noted that the purpose of the Moratorium was
to provide the City with the opportunity to address three issues that were
identified by the City Council in relationship to Multi- Family Housing
within the City. He explained that the first question was how much Multi -
Family land use areas existed within the City and do we have enough or too
much; the second is the locations of the existing land use designations
within the City and the appropriateness of these locations; and the third
question is if the existing development standards and regulations for Multi -
Family zones are adequate to deal with the common problems that are
associated with Multi- Family development. Community Development
Director Brady stated staff surveyed other cities similar to Lake Elsinore to
find mixed Multi - Family Residential that they had addressed. He noted that
it was found that Lake Elsinore compared to some of the other cities had
proportionately more Multi- Family land use area that the average of the
eight other cities combined. He explained that the average percentage for
Multi - Family for the eight cities was 6.22% and the amount for Lake
Elsinore was over 8% or in the top three of the eight cities surveyed. He
noted that the total taken of residential /Multi - Family land use in the eight
cities surveyed showed Lake Elsinore as the 2" highest of the cities with the
City of Perris being the highest. Community Development Director Brady
stated that since the amount of Multi- Family was above the average, certain
areas of the City needed to be looked at to determine if the Multi- Family
designations were appropriate in those areas. He indicated that staff
determined that Multi - Family land use designations along the I -15 corridor
could be considered an area to be changed to Commercial land use
designation. He noted that such uses as auto dealerships could be
considered. He further indicated that staff reviewed the Multi- Family
development standards and concluded that the regulations should be
reviewed and possibly revised, particularly in areas of parking, lighting and
storage requirement as well as the aesthetics and design review for those
projects. Community Development Director Brady indicated that it is
recommended that City Council direct staff to review the General Plan
Multi- Family land use designations and adjust the amount and locations of
the areas designated with the Multi- Family designation; review the
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feasibility of developing the Commercial Corridor Specific Plan area; and
up date the Multi - Family development regulations that are contained in
Chapter 17.14 of the Lake Elsinore Municipal Code. He stressed that the
report presented was a summary of the study and staff feels that a
comprehensive review was conducted.
Councilman Alongi asked if it is fair to compare Norco with the City of
Lake Elsinore concerning Multi- Family zoning. Community Development
Director Brady stated that it was. Councilman Alongi questioned staff
regarding the amount of horse property in Norco. He objected to the use of
Ontario to compare to Lake Elsinore since the majority of land in that
community is farm property. He indicated that a study can be made to
reflect any attitude that the person conducting the survey wishes to convey.
He asked if there was a breakdown of R -2, R -3 and R -4 in the survey or if it
was a combination. Community Development Director Brady stated that
the study was done from General Plan Land Use designations and not
zoning designation. He noted that the Land Use designations were what
were used to do the survey. Councilman Alongi asked that out of the 8 -'h %
that is Multi- Family, 3 % is R -2 and .5 % is R -3 etc. Community
Development Director Brady stated that he would have no way of knowing
exact percentages. Councilman Alongi stated that then the report does not
really signify what kind of Multi- Family that is being address, except that
properties that have a greater value than R -1, therefore the figures that are in
the book are not compatible to what is going to be discussed. He indicated
that Council really doesn't know if the 8 V2% is a true figure on property
that have greater value than 24 units to the acre and asked if there were that
many parcels in the City that Council needs to be concerned with. He
questioned the use of the City of Riverside versus the City of Lake Elsinore.
He noted the percentage of the Cities of Temecula, Murrieta and Corona.
He addressed Table 4 in the report and stated that it does not give a break
down of R -2, R -3 and R -4 and does not address how many parcels are
designated for more than 12 units. He stated his appreciation for staff's
time and efforts, however he supports low and moderate - income housing
and he feels that this is just another systematic approach to kick those
people out of this community.
Councilman Metze stated that a percentage is a percentage no matter what
the population is. He noted that staff looked at eight cities that are in the
general area and asked where it is written that Lake Elsinore has to be the
Multi- Family capitol of this area. He noted that table four compares Single -
Family homes verses Multi- Family Residential homes and noted the
difference between the different cities and Lake Elsinore. He stated that
when the table is examined it shows that the City has done an outstanding
job in providing Multi- Family Residential. He confirmed that this study is
everything above R -1. He stated that he agrees with staff's
recommendations, however he would like to see a map of the actual areas in
a Study Session to determine the exact locations.
Mayor Pape asked if it was Senior Planner Armando Villa that did the
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study. Community Development Director Brady stated that it was. Stated
that he concurred with Councilman Metze. He stated that the location is
more important than the quantity and he would also like to see a map that
would show exactly where the zones are to make sure that it is compatible
with the surrounding areas. He noted that there are numbers that the general
public might be interested in. He indicated that the total General Plan
acreage is just less than 34,000 acres and the City of Murrieta have half of
that amount. He stated that Ontario has less than 20,000 acres; Temecula
has 16,000 acres; Corona has 18,000. He stressed that the City of Lake
Elsinore covers a very large geographic area and the purpose of this action
is to make sure that future development is compatible, not only with the
entire community, but also specifically with the surrounding area on any
future Multi- Family developments. He noted that the City of Lake Elsinore
has set -aside far more area for Multi - Family housing than what is necessary.
Mayor Pape indicated that Council needs to make sure that any
development is compatible with the surrounding area and it might be
necessary to change the land use to address the needs of the community. He
noted that no changes would be make without the concurrence of the
surrounding property owners to best address the concerns and needs of the
residents.
Mayor Pro Tem Kelley stated that Council would be making an error in
assuming that Multi - Family housing is low to moderate income and that is
not always the case. She noted the large amount of acres that the City of
Lake Elsinore has set -aside for Multi- Family housing. She addressed the
finding for the I -15 Corridor and stated that she agreed that it is not suitable
for Multi- Family dwellings and concurred with Councilman Alongi's
previous comments regarding the fact that the City is sitting on a gold -mine
for commercial on the I -15 Corridor. She stated that she would like to see
the Residential Standards tightened up and feel that it is very important to
keep on top of the parking, lighting and storage issues. She concurred with
Mayor Pape and Councilman Metze regarding a map. She stressed that she
would like to see exactly where all the Multi- Family land use areas are
located to best judge what is surrounding that area to make the best logical
decision possible. She indicated that she would like to see a map as soon as
possible.
MOVED BY PAPE AND SECONDED BY METZE TO DIRECT STAFF TO
COME BACK AS SOON AS POSSIBLE WITH A MAP OF THE
LOCATIONS OF ALL THE MULTI - FAMILY LAND USE AREAS IN THE
CITY AND MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR CHANGES; WORK
WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO UP -DATE AND
STRENGTHEN AND OUR CURRENT MULTI - FAMILY DEVELOPMENT
STANDARDS; AND PRESENT A SPECIFIC PLAN FOR THE I -15
CORRIDOR AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
Councilman Alongi stated that again the Council is at the point of a "true
statement" or a "statement of truth ". He noted that when he made the
comment about the I -15 Corridor it was when the City was giving the Ford
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Dealership $300,000 more and not to change any Multi - Family zoning
along the I -15 Corridor. He stressed that it is a known fact that a city place
Multi- Family along side a corridor where they have quick access to a
freeway, rather than bring the residents through the community. He stated
that is proper development. He indicated that this Council has no
experience with development, whereas he has been involved in
development for the last 40 years and does have the knowledge necessary to
make decisions. He noted that the Mayor was quoting acreage and did not
compare population to acreage, which would drive their percentages down
as it does with other cities. He indicated that most low to moderate - income
families live in apartments. Councilman Alongi addressed Mayor Pro Tem
Kelley's comment regarding apartments and stated that the people that
make $60 to $70 thousand dollars a year live in Temecula or in Tuscany
Hills and because she is a teacher she should know better than anyone that
low to moderate income quality housing is needed in this area. He stated
that the low to moderate - income family is forced to live in slums and noted
the structure being torn down at Main and Sumner. He further noted that if
this action were done with RDA funds, then it could be rebuilt and the
displaced families could be placed back in the quality Multi - Family
housing. He stressed that he sees this as a systematic way of reducing the
Multi- Family zoning in the City of Lake Elsinore because the Council feels
that they are better than others. He invited that public to really look at the
report and then make their own judgment.
THE FOREGOING MOTION WAS APPROVED WITH A VOTE OF 3 -1
WITH ALONGI CASTING THE DISSENTING VOTE AND
COUNCILWOMAN BRINLEY ABSENT.
ITEMS PULLED FROM CONSENT CALENDAR
4. Lake Elsinore Historical Society Restoration of Antique Fire Engine.
(F:45.1)
Councilman Metze indicated that he just had a couple of questions and
comments on this time. He stressed the importance of assuring that
qualified people are doing the restoration. He questioned the potential cost
to restore it. He indicated that he feels this is a great idea, but he just
wanted to be sure of the required qualifications and insurance. He also
expressed concern that an unqualified person might leave the truck in parts,
as previously occurred when someone worked on the motor.
Councilman Alongi noted that this truck is unique as there are very few in
the United States. He indicated that he would like to see the $20,000 for
street tree lights used for this restoration. He suggested that there was a
great demand for such a truck and saw this as an opportunity to make
money. He noted that there are people who know where the parts are to put
the truck back together. He commented that he would like to see the City
do a joint venture to provide insurance coverage and have a staff member
oversee the work, rather than putting lights in the trees.
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Councilman Metze suggested if the money for the lights were used on the
fire engine, the Council could go to jail, as those are special funds. City
Manager Watenpaugh confirmed that the lighting is being funded by the
park fund. Councilman Metze stressed that it would be a misuse to use
those funds for the fire truck, noting that certain funds are designated. He
indicated that he would support funds from somewhere else for this
purpose.
MOVED BY METZE, SECONDED BY KELLEY TO AUTHORIZE THE
LAKE ELSINORE HISTORICAL SOCIETY TO RESTORE THE
ANTIQUE FIRE ENGINE AT HTEIR COST AT THE ENGINE'S
PRESENT LOCATION; WITH THE VEHICLE REMAINING IN THE
POSSESSION OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE AND STAFF
WORKING WITH THE CHAMBER FOR THE REMOVAL OF ALL
STORED MATERIALS.
Councilman Alongi noted that $200,000 from the Library Fund was
borrowed and questioned why it was not possible to borrow $20,000 for the
fire truck. He stressed that there are ways to do things.
THE FOREGOING MOTION CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF
THOSE PRESENT.
5. Contract with Norris- Repke, Inc. - Engineering Services for Main Street
Pavement Rehabilitation Project and Graham Street Pavement
Rehabilitation Project. (F:68.1)
Councilman Alongi expressed concern that this item contemplated
approving a contract, but the contract was not included in the packet. City
Attorney Leibold indicated that she had the contract for review and
signature. Councilman Alongi suggested setting this item aside until the
Council can read the agreement. Mayor Pape questioned the City
Attorney's comfort level with the agreement. City Attorney Leibold
indicated that she needs to complete the review but it does include the key
items proposed by her office. She indicated that she would be happy to
provide the Council with copies of the agreement.
MOVED BY PAPE, SECONDED BY KELLEY AND CARRIED BY A
VOTE OF 3 TO 1 WITH ALONGI CASTING THE DISSENTING VOTE
AND BRINLEY ABSENT TO APPROVE THE CONTRACT WITH
NORRIS -REPKE FOR THE MAIN STREET AND GRAHAM STREET
PROJECT, IN THE AMOUNT OF $49,141 AND AUTHORIZED THE CITY
MANAGER TO SIGN THE CONTRACT.
7. Notice of Completion - Fiscal Year 1997 -98 SB821 Sidewalk and
Pedestrian Ramp Improvements. (F:146.1)
Councilman Alongi noted that the budget for this project was $55,000 and
the final cost was $8,600 short due to a misunderstanding with the County.
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budget of 55,000 for design and construction. Community Development
Director Brady indicated that staff was made aware of this after entering
into the agreement; but it was something overlooked by staff. Mayor Pape
indicated that the bottom line has not changed. City Engineer O'Donnell
clarified that the County asked for money after the contract was awarded,
but the amount of matching funds would have been the same. Mayor Pape
questioned whether it actually cost more money. City Manager
Watenpaugh confirmed and noted that there would be a transfer of funds
from another account.
MOVED BY ALONGI, SECONDED BY KELLEY AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO AUTHORIZE THE
TRANSFER OF $8,600 FROM THE GAS TAX ACCOUNT TO THE 1997 -98
SB821 PROJECT ACCOUNT, ACCEPT THE NOTICE OF COMPLETION
AND AUTHORIZE SIGNATURE AND RECORDATION OF THE
NOTICE.
THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING WAS RECESSED AT 8:05 P.M.
THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING RECONVENED AT 8:10 P.M.
PUBLIC COMMENTS — NON - AGENDIZED ITEMS
Chris Hyland, 15191 Wavecrest, complained that the landscaping in her area is not
being taken care of, noting that the maintenance was "crappy ". She noted that
this caused her to start looking into a lot of other things and she discovered that
the City gave certain positions big salary increases. She detailed the current
salaries and raises of the management staff members and reminded the community
of the vehicle and benefit costs. She commented that there is no money for
anything, but salary increases. She suggested that City Hall should go back to five
days a week, and reiterated the need to do something about the landscaping.
CITY MANAGER COMMENTS
City Manager Watenpaugh advised that he gave the raises; noting that the City has
downsized and saved a lot of money, and the staff works hard and deserves what
they get. He indicated that with regard to landscaping it has been mentioned
before and took responsibility for insuring that there would be a change.
CITY ATTORNEY COMMENTS
No Comments.
CITY COUNCIL COMMENTS
Councilman Alongi commented on the following:
Stated that he goes back to court on the 19'h and they are back to square one
again. He explained that he would have to be appointed a judge and that
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judge has to see what is on his calendar. He doesn't know if he will get to
go on vacation or not. He noted that it was the fault of the District
Attorney.
2. He noted that at the last meeting the Council voted to support Proposition 9.
He stated that whether he supported Proposition 9 or not is immaterial since
he feels that this should be an individual matter. He noted the endorsement
of Proposition 5, which was done on an individual basis and stated that is
how it should be done. He that if the Mayor or anyone else on Council
wishes to support an issue then they should write a letter or sign a petition,
however he does feel that it should be done on an individual basis. He
stated that there are people in the City who would vote in favor or in
opposition to and issue simply because Council votes that way and he feels
that is wrong, therefore he will keep his opinions on how he will vote to
himself. He stated that the people should at least read what they are voting
on and make their own decisions.
Noted that La Laguna Estates was continued because of the amount of
reading that Council must do to be educated about the project. He stated
that City Attorneys make mistakes and that is why it is important for
Council to read all information regarding a subject. He stated that he would
not give his vote unless he has something in front of him and that he has
read. He stated that if there was something that he did not understand, then
he could question it. He stressed that the Council did not have the
opportunity to read the contract this evening because it was not in front of
them. He cited a bond issue that Council did not read and it was wrong and
the City got in trouble because of it.
4. Noted that a few months ago a manager of Media One threatened City
Council about profanity and the fact that if there was anymore profanity
they would shut the cable down. He stated that profanity is fine when the
bottom line is profit. He further noted that on Cable 3, our local cable
channel they were showing "R" rated movies with profanity that only
drunken sailors use on their leave. He commented that when it comes to
profit, its o.k. to put that smut on the television on a local channel. He
stated that people do not buy those stations because they don't want to see
those type of movies, yet Media One will televise them on a local channel to
advertise the service, where a small child can turn the channel and listen to
inappropriate language. He stated that in the future, he hopes that Media
One will not raise their head to be self - righteous.
5. He noted the RDA in San Mateo and the program they use for removing
blight in their community.
5. Stated that he has been informed over and over again that the City is not
responsible for the bonds, however in a Close Session he was informed that
if certain decisions were not made that the City could be sued. He asked
how the City could be sued if it is not responsible for the bonds. He noted
that it's the Public Financing Authority that underwrites the bonds that are
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discussed all the time and it the City of Lake Elsinore Public Financing
Authority that must perform and if it does not perform properly and the
bonds go into default the City ends up in trouble. He explained that the City
is indirectly responsible for the bonds. He stressed the need to be careful
with the bonds because they are so complex. Councilman Alongi stated that
the City should not be assisting the developers in any way and if they
perform properly, then the City can come behind them and possibly reward
them. He noted the amount of developers that have gone bankrupt and the
Council has to bail them out and it this action should not happen. He noted
that the City cannot support the services needed and yet, they are allowing
more home to go in. He further noted that the people that move to these
homes do not work here and explained that those people do not necessarily
spend their money here. He stated that Council is more interested in
building car dealerships rather than homes for people who are financially
disadvantaged. He noted the units that were just torn down and the City has
no program to place these people when they are moved out of their homes.
7. Stated that he will keep the public informed and explained that he will be
sitting in his seat for a long time since there is no advantage to this case. He
questioned why they have not talked to him about a settlement, yet they will
plea- bargain with murders to obtain a conviction without going to court. He
noted that the maximum penalty is to take his seat and it will take 12 people
to take that action. He stated that they are wasting the tax - payers dollars.
Councilman Metze had no comments.
Mayor Pro Tem Kelley commented on the following:
1) Announced on behalf of Volunteer Fire Company #10 that Fire Safety
Awareness Day would be this Saturday at Walmart beginning at 10 a.m.
She encouraged community support of this event.
2) Announced the Library Grand Opening on Saturday from 10 a.m. to 3:30
p.m. She noted that local talent would be performing and all would find the
event interesting.
3) Conveyed continuing Get Well wishes for Councilwoman Brinley
Mayor Pape commented on the following:
1) Noted the monthly meeting of the Republican Assembly on Thursday Night
at Tuscany Hills. He advised that they would be sponsoring a debate on
Proposition 5 regarding Indian Gaming.
2) Advised that Dan Lungren would be in Lake Elsinore on Saturday at about
12:30 p.m., at the Republican headquarters on Riverside Drive.
3) Indicated that he was glad the District Attorney was not willing to bargain
with corrupt politicians.
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CLOSED SESSION
A. CONFERENCE WITH LEGAL COUNSEL — EXISTING LITIGATION
(Subdivision (a) of Section 54956.9)
City of Lake Elsinore vs. Lytle Creek Partners, et al. - Case No. 213915.
B. CONFERENCE WITH LEGAL COUNSEL — ANTICIPATED
LITIGATION (Initiation of litigation pursuant to subdivision (c ) of Section
54956.9) — 2 Cases.
City Attorney Leibold announced the above listed Closed Session items.
THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING WAS ADJOURNED TO CLOSED
SESSION FOR DISCUSSION OF THE ABOVE LISTED ITEMS AT 8:26
P.M.
THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING WAS RECONVENED AT 10:05 P.M.
WITH THE FOLLOWING ANNOUNCEMENTS.
WITH REGARD TO ITEM A - LYTLE CREEK PARTNERS, THE
CITY COUNCIL DIRECTED THE CITY ATTORNEY TO
RESEARCH THE STATUS OF CONDEMNATION ACTIONS.
WITH REGARD TO ANTICIPATED LITIGATION ITEMS:
CASE ONE, THE CITY COUNCIL AUTHORIZED LEGAL
COUNSEL TO FILE PROTEST TO EVMWD WATER RIGHTS
APPLICATION.
CASE TWO, NO ACTION TAKEN.
ADJOURNMENT
THE REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING WAS ADJOURNED AT
10:10 P.M.
EVIN W. PAPE, MAYOR
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
ATTEST:
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VICKI _-:ASAD CITY CLERK
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
MINUTES
REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
183 NORTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA
TUESDAY, OCTOBER 27,1998
CALL TO ORDER
The Regular City Council Meeting was called to order by Mayor Pape at 7:00 p.m.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Councilwoman Brinley
INVOCATION
The Invocation was provided by Pastor Don Butensohn.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: ALONGI, BRINLEY,
KELLEY, METZE, PAPE
ABSENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: NONE
Also present were: City Manager Watenpaugh, City Attorney Leibold,
Administrative Services Director Boone, Community Development Director
Brady, Community Services Director Sapp, Fire Chief Seabert, Police Chief
Walsh, City Engineer O'Donnell, Assistant to the City Manager Best, Senior
Planner Morita and City Clerk Kasad.
PRESENTATIONS
a. Brad Sharpe, Manager, Albertsons. (F:122.1)
Mayor Pape read and presented a Proclamation to Mr. Brad Sharpe,
representing the new Albertson °s store on the west end. He noted that
residents have waited many years for another store; and the increasing need
for an additional grocery store on that end of the Lake. Mayor Pape
advised that the second store would open on October 28`t' at 8:00 a.m.
Mr. Sharpe commented that he looked forward to serving the community
and being involved in the Community.
b. Lee Thibadeau, Surface Mining & Reclamation (F:56.1)
Mr. Thibadeau, representing the State Department of Conservation, noted
that this is the second time he has made such a presentation to Lake
Elsinore. He advised that there are 128 lead agencies in California, and
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only 12 of those are receiving the Surface Mining and Reclamation Act
Award. He indicated that it is not an easy task to meet the State
requirements and commented that the staff and City Council had show true
concern for the environment. He congratulated the Council and staff for
their efforts in this area.
PUBLIC COMMENTS — AGENDIZED ITEMS
Requests were received to address Item No. 21 and deferred to that discussion.
CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS
The following item was pulled from the Consent Calendar for further discussion
and consideration:
Item No. 4.
MOVED BY BRINLEY, SECONDED BY KELLEY AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO APPROVE THE BALANCE OF THE CONSENT
CALENDAR AS PRESENTED.
The following Minutes were approved:
a. City Council Study Session — August 19, 1998 (F:44.4)
The following Minutes were received and ordered filed:
b. Planning Commission Meeting - October 7, 1998. (17:60.3)
C. Design Review Committee Meeting - October 7, 1998. (17:60.4)
2. Ratified Warrant List for October 15, 1998. (F:12.3)
3. Rejected and referred to Claims Administrator for handling, the Claim
Against the City submitted by Joyce Anderson (CL #98 -23). (17:52.2)
Approved Proclamation Welcoming the New Albertson's Market. (F:122.1)
PUBLIC HEARING
21. La Laguna Estates Specific Plan No. 92 -4 and Environmental Impact Report
No. 92 -2 - Resolution No. 98 -37 & Ordinance No. 1041. (F:150.2)
City Manager Watenpaugh introduced the project and stated that this item
was continued from the City Council Meeting of October 13, 1998. He
asked Community Development Director Brady to give an overview of the
proj ect.
Community Development Director Brady explained that La Laguna Estate
is a Master Planed Community. He gave an overview of the project and
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outlined the location of La Laguna Estates Specific Plan Area. He noted
that the Specific Plan is a residential project on 489 acres of land adjacent to
the Cleveland National Forest and proposes 480 single - family detached and
180 single- family attached residential units, for a total of 660 residential
units, and 282 total acres of Open Space. He indicated that under the
Specific Plan there would be limited Neighborhood Commercial uses
subject to a Conditional Use Permit, which would have to go to public
hearing with Planning Commission prior to it being allowed. He stated that
Tuscany Hills has similar provisions in their Specific Plan as well. He
noted that the project is in the Community Facilities District 88 -3. He
reminded Council that this is for review and approval of the Specific Plan
and Environmental documents and the Tract Map and Design Review would
have to come back before Planning Commission and City Council at a
public hearing for approval.
Mayor Pape called upon the applicant.
Kris Webber, Hunsaker and Associates, representing the applicant, thanked
City staff for their many years of assistance with this project. He gave a
history of the development of the Specific Plan and stated that he felt that
this was a quality product for the City. He noted that the project has three
distinctive areas based on the topography and offers three different views.
He explained that because of the topography it allows the potential in the
Specific Plan for a gated community and stated that it would not affect
traffic flow since there is no through traffic.
Mayor Pape opened the public hearing at 7:16 p.m. and called upon the
persons who requested to speak.
Marie Locke, 15025 Monte Court, Secretary for the Cleveland Ridge
Community of Interest Committee, stated that she had not received a notice
of the public hearing and stressed that there is a need for open
communication between the City and the Committee. She stated that she
feels that development that occurs within the City will impact the COI and
they need to offer input on behalf of the residents of the COI. She noted
that they held a Town Hall Meeting and a vote was taken to call for the City
to provide a Hillside Ordinance and without this Ordinance development
would affect the Valley at large. She stated that by adopting a Hillside
Development Ordinance it would comply with the City of Lake Elsinore's
General Plan.
Richard Burnett, 29604 Dale Court complimented the developer of the La
Laguna Specific Plan for leaving 140 acres of Open Space, however he and
his wife do have some concerns. He noted that the Rice Canyon
"Disturbed" area is proposed to be given to the Boy or Girl Scouts of
America and he questioned the traffic safety of the ingress and egress of that
site on Dale Court. He stated that in his opinion Dale Court was not
designed for that type of potential traffic and asked that Council consider
that issue. He stated that due to the increase in traffic caused by the
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addition of approximately 1,400 vehicles when La Laguna Estates is
developed there is a need to address the traffic intersection of Grand
Avenue and Broadway. He suggested that a four way stop to mitigate a
potential unsafe condition caused by traffic congestion on that site. Mr.
Burnett noted the area that the project is located in and cited the high risk
flood zone area as well as the fact that we do not have a fire station on the
West End and it is also in a high risk fire area. He asked that Council please
consider the traffic concerns, safety issues and impact on the neighborhood
that a Scout Camp would have.
William Moe, 29609 Dale Court, concurred with Mr. Burnett and stressed
that there is a real need for a fire station with increased population and the
quantity of vegetation near the proposed project. He stated that he would
not like to see Dale Court be an area of ingress and egress for the Scouts.
He noted the traffic hazard that would create. He noted that the proposed
site of the Scouts in an A -1 Flood Zone and is a hazard for them and a
liability for the City.
Daniel Uhlry, 150 E. Lakeshore Drive #80, stated that he has hunted and
hiked in the area and noted the flood hazard in the area proposed for Scouts
and further noted the amount of run -off that will occur due to a reduction in
natural watershed. He noted the problems that the City has had with
Riverside Drive due to the run -off. He stressed that he is favor of
development, however he hopes that the City will allow development in a
controlled manner and not end up with a Laguna Niguel situation with
houses sliding off the mountains.
Mike Aller, Centex Homes, spoke in favor of the project and stated that
with the development of La Laguna Estates will result in lower CFD fees
for all the homes that have been constructed on the West End. He noted
that it would ultimately provide funds that will provide for finishing
McVicker Park. He explained that when the original project was developed,
issues such as traffic and drainage were addressed for future development.
He noted that all the facilities that Centex constructed go right up to the
project and everything is sized to accept that project. He stated that he was
available for questions.
Joseph Minutella, 29608 Dale Court, concurred with Mr. Burnett's
comments and stated his concern regarding the Scout Camp. He stated that
there is a real fire safety factor until such time as there is a Fire Station
located in the West End.
Mayor Pape closed the public hearing at 7:26 p.m.
Mayor Pape asked staff to respond to the questions that were raised by the
speakers. He questioned the mitigation of the run -off from the rain and the
question of the Flood Zone. Community Development Director Brady stated
that he would defer the question about flood and rain mitigation to Senior
Planner Morita. He responded to the question of the Scouts using the
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"disturbed" area, and explained that it would require a Conditional Use
Permit and approval by the City prior to any type of use, however they
included the flexibility in the plan if were suggested as a possible use in the
future. He stressed that before the Scouts could use the "disturbed" area as
a camp they would have to come before the City for approval. Mayor Pape
questioned the use of Dale Court and the traffic impact. Community
Development Director Brady stated that would be part of a Conditional Use
Permit process. He noted that one of the issues that were questioned, was
Hillside Grading. He noted that Hillside Grading is part of the Specific
Plan, under Section 3.3.2. Mayor Pape questioned the intersection of Grand
Avenue and Broadway. Community Development Director Brady stated
that what is being addressed at this time is the Specific Plan, and that issue
would be addressed at the time of the Tentative Tract Map review.
Senior Planner Morita addressed the issue of traffic mitigation. He noted
that as part of the Environmental Impact Report, CEQA requires that
environmental clearance be provided for the entire project. He stressed that
what Community Development Director Brady has stated is correct. He
explained that when the project goes through a subdivision process, staff
would have the opportunity to examine the finite details of the project and
determine the necessary mitigations. He commented that the Environmental
Impact Report has a section on traffic impacts and a mitigation monitoring
program which offers several mitigation measures to reduce traffic impact
levels.
City Manager Watenpaugh noted that separate from this project the City
could examine traffic counts that exist now. He stated that was part of what
was addressed by Mr. Burnett.
Mayor Pape invited Council to address the Specific Plan.
Councilman Metze stated that he saw a lot in the Specific Plan that he liked,
however he does have several things that he would like to see addressed.
He noted that one thing that he learned from sitting on Planning
Commission is that the Specific Plan is a very important document and
noted a statement on page 50, which states that "These development
standards supersede all applicable City ordinances and codes ". He stated
that he went through the Plan with a fine tooth comb as follows:
Page 12 - Electricity is not addressed.
Page 13 — "The disposal company shall provide residential trash
enclosures and waste separation containers when a recycling program
is developed by the company." — There is no agreement that provides
for trash enclosures and this section should be deleted.
City Attorney Leibold stated that the last sentence does not contribute to the
document and may lead to ambiguity and confusion.
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Councilman Metze invited the developer to approach Council and clarify an
issue if they feel that he is wrong.
Councilwoman Brinley stated that the City already has a recycling program.
City Attorney Leibold stated that is why this section should be deleted,
since it is redundant.
Councilman Alongi questioned that if this was going to be a gated
community, does that allow them to establish their own trash collection.
City Attorney Leibold stated that typically the gated community has certain
obligations for their streets, however they do participate in City wide refuse
collection services. She stated that she felt that an independent homeowners
association would have the authority to independently contract or arrange
for trash services. Councilman Alongi noted that in a gated community
they service their own streets and this would be the first gated community in
the City and he was just curious if they could. City Attorney Leibold noted
that the City has a franchise agreement for trash service and she is unaware
of any circumstance, however she will look into the issue.
Mayor Pro Tem Kelley stated that she would like to have the following
addressed:
Page 18 — Neighborhood Commercial — and stated that she is opposed
to Neighborhood commercial . She stated that the last thing that
Council would like to see in that area is a convenience store or a strip
mall.
Mayor Pape concurred. He suggested that this should be deleted from the
document.
Kris Webber stated that they did not envision Neighborhood Commercial as
being throughout the community, but rather had one area in mind, which is
across from the proposed park that is adjacent to McVicker Canyon Park.
Mayor Pape stated that this would not change his mind. Mayor Pro Tem
Kelley stated that it does not change her mind either. Mr. Webber noted the
lack of services on the West End and noted the trip that will have to be
made by the development residents to get any services and this could create
convenience for the residents. Mayor Pape stated that he respectfully
disagrees and stated that the appropriate place to provide services is near the
State Brothers Market and in that area. Councilman Metze noted that
nowhere in any of the maps does it show a commercial site and this will be
a big surprise to anyone that buys in that tract and will ultimately create a
problem for the City. Councilwoman Brinley stated that there have been
problems in the past with commercial in the residential sections of that area
and it is evident that this should be deleted.
Mayor Pro Tem Kelley complimented the developer on the street design.
Councilman Metze addressed the following:
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Page 28 — Section g. — should read "Fence and wall design should be
coordinated with the design of structures within the development and
should be consistent throughout each project in accordance with the
requirements set forth in the Specific Plan, including with out
limitation Sections 4.1.5, 5.2.6 and 5.3.7.3.
Page 30 — Section bb. — Should read "The project's overall drainage
system shall be completed and operational at the earliest practical
time during construction as determined by the City Engineer.
Councilwoman Brinley questioned the Mining Reclamation Plan and
questioned the time that is still involved in the agreement. Mr. Webber
stated that they have taken that into consideration and will be addressed at
the time of construction.
City Attorney Leibold stated that she has a the following should be
changed:
Page 40 — Section 3.4.5.1.1 b. — Should read "The parkland
requirement for La Laguna has been calculated as discussed in
Section 3.8.3. The exact configuration of parkland to satisfy this
requirement will be handled during the subdivision process and shall
be subject to approval by the Planning Commission and City Council.
Councilman Metze addressed the following:
Page 44 — 3.7.1, Plan Description — Delete the section "over a period
of 15 years in ".
City Attorney Leibold stated that the project will be developed in phases
and the Development Agreement expires in 2005. She noted that the
Specific Plan, as the applicable Land Use regulatory instrument would
continue until later amended, if amended at all. She stated that it does not
need to enforce a time restriction.
Councilman Metze addressed the following:
Page 50 — third paragraph, second sentence — Should read "All
subsequent development plans, design review plans, subdivision
maps, grading permits, building permits or any other action requiring
ministerial or discretionary approval will be required to substantially
comply with these development standards. Those standards that are
silent and are not specifically addressed in this document or the
Development Agreement will revert to the City of Lake Elsinore
Zoning and/or Municipal Code in effect at the time future projects are
proposed.
City Attorney Leibold requested a change to the following:
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Page 50 — second paragraph — These development standards
supersede all applicable City ordinances and codes and during the
term of the Development Agreement shall be deemed to be "the
applicable law of the project ".
Mayor Pape addressed the following:
Page 52 — 4.1.3 c — Should read "Real estate signs, flags, future
development signs, and directory signs according to City Code.
Page 52 — 4. 1.1 d — Mayor Pape questioned this section and asked if
the City should allow this use. City Attorney Leibold stated that
there is a need for State License and there are certain restrictions. She
noted that this is not something that the City can prohibit.
Page 53 — 4.1.4 e — Delete this item.
Page 53 — 4.1.3 h — Delete the word Signs.
Councilwoman Brinley questioned the SFD Standards and stated that she
would like to see the garage remain at 22', since if the Council allows the
garages to be downsized people will park on the streets because of a lack of
space. She stated that all of the setbacks should remain the same as the City
Code calls out to avoid reduced size. She stated that if the Council allows
reductions in size then they will be setting a precedent for future projects
and she does not feel that this should be allowed. Mr. Webber stated that it
was the applicants intent to add more variety to the street scene by altering
size and noted that 17' would require a roll -up garage door and would still
allow another car to be parked in the driveway. Councilwoman Brinley
stated that she felt that Hunsaker and Associates could be just a creative
with 22' setbacks as they can with 17'. Mr. Webber stated that the purpose
of this document was because of the design standards and the difference
they can make. He requested that due to their designs they would ask that
no change be made. He noted the amount of open -space that they provided
with this project and stated that the design allows them to provide superior
design as well as causing grading issues. Councilwoman Brinley asked if
the applicant was planning to build this project himself. Mr. Webber stated
that he was not. Councilwoman Brinley stated that she is concerned with
future developers and their concepts, which will require amendments, and
can, change the entire project. She stressed her wish to insure the integrity
of City Codes for the benefit of the City. Councilman Alongi asked how
sure the applicant is that this development will be a gated community. Mr.
Webber stated that they are not sure at all, however the wish to retain the
option for a future buyer to decide if they wish to develop a gated
community. Councilman Alongi stated that if it were a gated community
then it would be a different situation, however if it is open to either type of
development, then he concurs with Councilwoman Brinley.
Page 54 — 4.1.5 — All setbacks should conform to City Code.
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Councilman Metze addressed the following:
Page 55 — parking — Should read " garages required ".
Page 55 — 4.2 — Change 20.0 dwelling units per acre to 8 dwelling
units per acre.
Page 57 — 4.2.3 h — Should read garages.
Page 57 — 4.2.4 c — Delete this item.
Page 58 — 4.2.5 — This must conform to City Zoning Code standards
with open carport deleted.
Page 58 - * - Should read 6,000 square feet per City standards.
Mr. Webber explained that they set a single family detached on a smaller lot
because it would conform to the single family attached that would be near
or adjacent to the single family detached. He gave several examples of
different design standard that use cluster concepts that have smaller lots.
He stated that what they are asking for is less restriction to allow them to
make a less dense project without such stringent standards. He noted that
this allows for an improvement of the dense section rather than total
attached single family.
Councilman Alongi addressed the following:
Page 58 — ( * *) — This entire paragraph should be deleted.
Page 57. 59. 50 - 4.2.5 - Entire Section — Conform to City Codes.
Page 60 — Parking — Delete or carport.
Mayor Pape commented that the project theme is very interesting. He noted
that it is proposed to be Historical California theme.
Councilman Metze addressed the Guard Gate.
Councilwoman Brinley stated that she is opposed to a gated community
since it creates a community within a community. She noted that if there is
a public park within a gated community it is hard for the public to make
access.
Mayor Pape stated that he is neutral to a gated community, however he
would have to examine the project prior to making a decision.
Councilman Alongi concurred with Mayor Pape and he felt that the section
addressing the guard gate should be left in to remind Council that there is
the possibility of a gated community. Councilman Metze stated that it
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would prevent Council from disallowing a gated community. Councilman
Alongi disagreed because he noted that if the developer does not meet all
the requirements of the Planning Department, then a gated community is out
of the question. Councilman Metze noted that this is a binding document
and overrides everything. Mayor Pape asked the City Attorney for her
opinion. City Attorney Leibold explained that as stated it would be subject
to design review, so the City through the design review process would have
the opportunity to evaluate design issues. She further explained that if
Council wishes to have a second opportunity to evaluate this then language
could be added to read upon approval of the Planning Commission and City
Council.
Mayor Pro Tern Kelley stated that she is also neutral, however she feels that
this project lends itself to a gated community better than any other project
she has seen because of its geography.
There was general discussion regard to open space and its use.
Mayor Pape stated that Council agrees that they will not make an opinion
regarding a gated community and it will have to come back to Council for a
decision.
Page 68 — 5.2.2 e — Should read "A guard gate entrance may be
provided at the primary Community Gateway. The Secondary
Community Gateway will utilize a controlled access via card or
remote control limited entrance. Design Review will be required for
both entrances as adequate sight distance, emergency access, stacking
distance and landscape treatment shall be analyzed. Such gates
would only be allowed in conjunction with private streets upon
approval of the Planning Commission and City Council.
Councilman Metze addressed the following:
Page 73 — 5.2.6 c — Should read "Fencing, bracketing and posts
construction shall comply with the UBC and the Lake Elsinore
Municipal Code at time of construction.
Page 88 — 5.3.7.3 — At the end of the paragraph it should read "with
UBC and the Lake Elsinore Municipal Code at the time of
construction."
Mayor Pro Tern Kelley commented that the treatment for the doors and the
windows that are proposed are very nice.
Councilman Metze addressed the following:
Page 91— 6.2.2 — The last sentence of the paragraph should read
"Conditional Use Permits shall be considered by the Planning
Commission."
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Page 91 — 6.2.4 — The first sentence should read "All future
development shall undergo the City's Design Review process in
accordance with the City's Municipal Code at time of development.
Page 92 — 6.3 — The very last of the second paragraph should read
"warrant review and consideration by the Planning Commission and
City Council.
Councilman Metze suggested 6.3a should be deleted. Mr. Webber objected.
City Attorney Leibold clarified this section and explained that changes
should be done through approval of the Community Development Director.
Mr. Webber stated that he would like to have some flexibility from the
developers side for movement of units from one area to another.
Councilman Metze stated that he would be willing to look at a small
percentage, however as Section "a" is written it would allow the developer
to do anything that he wants with any percentage that the developer wants.
City Attorney Leibold stated that a small percentage is find, however the
Council can require administrative overview. Councilman Alongi
suggested that it have upon approval of the Community Development
Director. City Attorney Leibold stated that the way that the section is
written does not require review by the Community Development Director or
the City Council. Mayor Pape suggested that they be allowed a 5% transfer.
Councilman Alongi objected since he felt that this should be under review
by the Community Development Director.
Page 92 — 6.3 a — Should read "Transfer of dwelling units at the
discretion of the Community Development Director.
Page 94 — 7.1 — Delete the first two sentences. The Section should
start with "Given that market demands...."
City Attorney Leibold addressed the following changes:
Page A -5 -1 — 5 — Should read "Developer shall be entitled to develop
the property in accordance with the Development Plan, Development
Parameters.
Page 1 -5 -1 — 9 — The section "(15 years)" should be deleted.
MOVED BY BRINLEY, SECONDED BY METZE AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO CERTIFY THE ENVIRONMENTAL EMPACT
REPORT 92 -2 BY RESOLUTION NO. 98-37 AS FOLLOWS:
RESOLUTION NO. 98-37
A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF LAKE
ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA, CERTIFYING THE LA LAGUNA
ESTATE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT NO. 92-2 —LA
LAGUNA ESTATES
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MOVED BY BRINLEY, SECONDED BY METZE TO APPROVE LA
LAGUNA ESTATES SPECIFIC PLAN NO. 92-4 WITH ALL
MODIFICATIONS DISCUSSED, BASED ON FINDINGS MADE AND THE
CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL AND ADOPT ORDINANCE NO. 1041
UPON FIRST READING BY TITLE ONLY AS FOLLOWS:
ORDINANCE NO. 1041
AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF
LAKE ELSINORE CALIFORNIA, ADOPTING THE LA LAGUNA
ESTATES SPECIFIC PLAN.
UPON THE FOLLOWING ROLL CALL VOTE:
AYES: COUNCILMEMBERS: ALONGI, BRINLEY, KELLEY
METZE, PAPE
NOES: COUNCILMEMBERS: NONE
ABSENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: NONE
ABSTAIN: COUNCILMEMBERS: NONE
CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL:
The Draft La Laguna Specific Plan shall be revised to incorporate any
corrections and changes required by the Planning Commission and City
Council. A Final La Laguna Specific Plan document shall be submitted for
review and approval to the Community Development Director or designee
within 30 days of approval by the City Council. No permit shall be issued
until the La Laguna Specific Plan document and any required revisions are
administratively approved by the Community Development Director.
2. Future development shall comply with those standards and guidelines
continued in the Lake Use Plan, Circulation Plan, Grading Plan, Recreation
and Open Space Plan, Drainage Plan, Water and Sewer Plans, and Public
Service Plan as presented in the La Laguna Specific Plan.
3. Those issues, standards, guidelines, etc. not addressed in the La Laguna
Specific Plan or the Development Agreement will revert to the City
Municipal Code and/or Zoning Code in effect at the time future projects are
proposed.
4. Prior to approval of the Tentative Tract Map for each phase, the Applicant
shall provide the City with a Detailed Phasing, Improvement, and Financing
Plan. Said Plan shall describe all on -and off site roadway and utility
improvements and public services necessary to accommodate buildout of
that particular Tentative Tract Map and phase. Said Plan shall also describe
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when the improvements and public services will be provided, how they will
be maintained, and recommend feasible funding mechanisms and sources.
5. The Applicant shall participate in the City of Lake Elsinore Citywide
Landscaping and Street Lighting District.
6. All open space and slopes outside the public right -of -way shall be owned
and maintained by either a master homeowner's association, private owners,
or other methods found acceptable to the City and Applicant.
7. The applicant shall provide all project - related onsite improvements as
described in the la Laguna Specific Plan.
8. Prior to issuance of building permit, the Applicant shall pay all required
parkland dedication in- lieu -of fees, less any credits for land dedication or
fees previously paid by the Applicant for parkland or park improvements
that have been placed in the McVicker Canyon Park Site Account as stated
in the La Laguna Development Agreement.
9. A conceptual Landscape Plan for the entire La Laguna site shall be provided
prior to approval of the first Tentative Tract map for the project. Said
Conceptual Landscape Plan shall present the overall theme and give special
regard to the streetscape, fencing and walls, entry monumentation, signage
and lighting. Said Conceptual Landscape Plan shall be prepared in
accordance with the Design Guidelines contained in the la Laguna Specific
Plan.
10. Prior to issuance of building permit, a Fuel Modification Plan and Program
shall be approved by the Fire Department. Said Plan and Program shall
show those special treatments necessary to achieve an acceptable level of
risk in regard to the exposure of structures to flammable vegetation and
shall describe the method of removal and installation, and provisions for
maintenance.
11. The La Laguna Specific Plan shall be implemented in accordance with
provisions and conditions contained in the La Laguna Development
Agreement and Funding and Acquisition Agreement.
12. The Applicant shall implement those relevant mitigation measures
identified in the Mitigation Monitoring Program adopted with the La
Laguna Final Environmental Impact Report 92 -2.
13. Future Development shall comply with those mitigation measures contained
in the 1997 Habitat Mitigation Plan, which has been prepared for the La
Laguna Specific Plan.
14. Prior to issuance of grading permit for any future development, the
Applicant shall show proof that a 404 permit and 401 Water Quality
Certificate in accordance with the Clean Water Act have been acquired from
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the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers and Regional Water Quality Board,
respectively; and Sections 1601 -1603 clearances in accordance with the
California Fish and Game Code has been acquired from the California
Department of Fish and Game.
15. The City's Noise Ordinance must be met during all site preparation activity.
16. The Applicant shall obtain all necessary State and Federal permits,
approvals, or other entitlements, where applicable, prior to each phase of
development of the project.
17. Prior to issuance of grading permit for any development adjacent to
McVicker Canyon, a Mining Impact Mitigation Plan for future residential
units shall be submitted to the City Engineer for review and approval. Upon
completion of mining operations at McVicker Canyon, this condition shall
no longer be required.
18. Prior to approval of each tentative tract map, the Applicant shall prepare a
geotechnical report for City Engineer Approval. The geotechnical report
will assess potential soil- related constraints and hazards such as slope
stability, settlement, liquefaction, or related seismic impacts where
determined to be appropriate by the City Engineer. The report will also
include evaluation of potentially expansive soils and recommended
construction procedures and/or design criteria to minimize the effects of
these soils on proposed development.
19. Prior to the issuance of any grading permits, the Applicant shall submit a
final grading plan, subject to all requirements of the City Grading
Ordinance to the City Engineer for approval. Said grading plan shall
address those hillside grading standards and guidelines contained in the la
Laguna Specific Plan.
20. Grading shall not be permitted outside the area of the designated project
boundary unless appropriate approvals have been obtained.
21. Prior to issuance of a grading permit, grading and construction plans shall
incorporate erosion control measures.
22. Design of the La Laguna project shall meet all Riverside County Fire
Department standards for fire protection and any additional requirements
requested by the County Fire Department.
23. The applicant shall ensure adequate utility service prior to occupancy.
24. The applicant shall comply with all applicable measures as specified by the
City including those found in the City programs including the City Source
Reduction and Recycling Element and Household Hazardous Waste
Element, the County Solid Waste Management Plan and Integrated Waste
Management Plan.
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25. Prior to issuance of building permit, the Applicant shall submit a letter of
verification (will -serve letter) to the City Engineer, for all required utility
services.
26. All future development including tentative tract maps shall be consistent
with the design standards and guidelines contained in the la Laguna Specific
Plan.
27. All future development is subject to the City of Lake Elsinore Design
Review process.
28. All future proposals shall be reviewed by the City on a project -by- project
basis. If determined necessary by the Community Development Director or
designee, additional environmental analysis will be required.
29. The applicant shall be permitted to construct smaller permanent
uninhabitable structures within those areas of Rice Canyon that have been
previously disturbed, subject to Conditional Use Permit approval.
ITEMS PULLED FROM THE CONSENT CALENDAR
4. Change of Parking Restriction on Mill Street in front of Railroad Canyon
Elementary School - Resolution No. 98 -38. (F:112.1)
City Manager Watenpaugh noted that this item was pulled at the request of
the School District. He noted that about eight months ago the School
District requested meetings to resolve their bus loading and pickup issues;
and at that time the parking restrictions were changed. He further noted that
now there has been a change in the School's administration and the situation
has been reevaluated. He explained that restriping is needed for the current
request and staff would concur this is the best way to handle it. He further
explained that the current question is who should pay the fees for the
changes and recommended that the District reimburse the City for the
changes, at a cost of about $250.
MOVED BY PAPE, SECONDED BY BRINLEY AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO ADOPT RESOLUTION NO. 98-37 REMOVING
THE PARKING PROHIBITION AND REPLACING IT BY
ESTABLISHING A LOADING ZONE ON MILL STREET IN FRONT OF
RAILROAD CANYON ELEMENTARY SCHOOL, WITH THE SCHOOL
DISTRICT REIMBURSING THE CITY FOR THE CHANGES.
PUBLIC COMMENTS — NON - AGENDIZED ITEMS
Chris Hyland, 15191 Wavecrest, noted that she had a snake at her front door last
Saturday; and indicated that in her opinion it was specifically placed there. She
noted that the Mayor has previously referred to her as a snake and inquired if he
placed the snake there. She indicated that she captured the snake and reported it to
the police department and wanted the public to know that this was a practice in
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Lake Elsinore. She noted a report to the Grand Jury by a local reporter in 1992
and indicated that she has no intention of leaving the area due to intimidation.
CITY MANAGER COMMENTS
City Attorney Leibold indicated that she had no comments and there would be no
Closed Session discussion, as it would be delayed until the next regular meeting.
CITY COUNCIL COMMENTS
Councilman Alongi commented on the following:
1) Reminded everyone to vote on November 3rd.
2) Noted that he went to the Student of the Month luncheon today, which was
quite an honor. He indicated that it was quite enlightening to see the variety
of students receiving recognition. He stressed the number of success stories
that occur with the help of the dedicated professionals at the School District.
He commended the teachers and students on their work.
3) Noted the quilt which was made by the HOPE volunteers and detailed the
planned raffle of the quilt. He explained that the quilt represents the
history of Lake Elsinore with scenes including the Train Depot, Amy's
Castle, Pioneer Lumber, City Hall, the Presbyterian Church, Old Elsinore
High School, the State Park the Armory Building, the Chimes and the
Barnes Real Estate building. He advised that all of the money goes directly
to HOPE and noted that HOPE is almost completely serviced by senior
citizens. He noted that he has purchased tickets and if he wins, he will
donate the quilt to the museum. He advised that the drawing would occur
at the annual dinner in November.
4) Noted that he read in the paper that the First Assembly of God Church on
Grand Avenue has been doing commodities, but because they don't have
enough assistance to pick up the government surplus they will no longer be
able to do so. He stressed the importance of this distribution.
5) Advised that his court hearing was scheduled for tomorrow, and indicated
that he would have more news at the next meeting.
Mayor Pro Tern Kelley commented on the following:
1) Announced that CDBG applications would be available beginning
November 10th at 5:30 at Cultural Center, and advised that interested
parties could call Community Services for further information.
2) Reminded the Community that the GFI races would be returning to the City
on November 7' and 81h. She noted that this is a very exciting event, which
would include the Legends Bar- be -que, jet ski races and a vendor area. She
encouraged community participation.
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3) Thanked the Community for the level of participation in the Library grand
reopening. She also thanked Frank Jackson for assisting with entertainment
and Albertson's for the food donation.
4) Welcomed Councilmembers Brinley and Metze back to the City Council
table.
Councilwoman Brinley commented on the following:
1) Thanked the Community for the support, cards and letters, noting that they
were the light at the end of the tunnel during her recuperation. She franked
the Council for their support during surgery, thanked her family for the
support and the community for the love and caring. She indicated that the
community was her lifeline and kept her going.
Councilman Metze commented on the following:
1) Thanked staff for their help on the La Laguna materials.
Mayor Pape commented on the following:
1) Noted the opening of the new Albertson's at 8 a.m. on October 28"
2) Announced the 6th annual Benefit Dinner for HOPE at 6 p.m. on November
7`h, at the First Presbyterian Church.
3) Indicated that the public will see street striping in next couple of weeks in
the evenings, as part of the City's continuing street maintenance program.
CLOSED SESSION
CONFERENCE WITH LEGAL COUNSEL - EXISTING LITIGATION
(Subdivision (a) of Government Code Section 54956.9) - City of Lake
Elsinore vs. All Persons (Cleveland Ridge) - Case #RIC 311942.
CONFERENCE WITH LEGAL COUNSEL - EXISTING
LITIGATION (Subdivision (a) of Government Code Section 54956.9) -
City of Lake Elsinore vs. All Persons (Meadowbrook) - Case #RIC 317305.
AS ANNOUNCED BY THE CITY ATTORNEY, CLOSED SESSION
DISCUSSION DID NOT OCCUR, BUT WAS CONTINUED TO THE NEXT
REGULAR MEETING.
ADJOURNMENT
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THE REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING WAS ADJOURNED AT 9:05
P.M.
1 uJ
v W. PAPE, MAYOR
OF LAKE ELSINORE
ATTEST:
VICKI KA.SAD, CITY CLERK
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
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MINUTES
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REGULAR CITY COUNCILNEETING
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE '
i83 NORTH MAINSTREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA
TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 10, 1998
....... TO ORDER .............
CALL ...................... ...............................
The Regular City Council Meeting was called to order by Mayor Pape at
7:04 p.m.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Councilman Metze.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: COUNCILMEMBERS
ABSENT: COUNCILMEMBERS:
ALONGI, BRINLEY,
KELLEY, METZE,
PAPE
NONE
Also present were: Executive Director Watenpaugh, Legal Counsel
Leibold, Administrative Services Director Boone, Community Development
Director Brady, City Engineer O'Donnell, Assistant to the City Manager
Best, Public Services Director Sapp, Fire Chief Seabert, Police Chief Walsh,
and Deputy City Clerk Bryning.
PUBLIC COMMENTS — AGENDIZED ITEMS
Requests were received to address item No.'s 4 and 32 of this agenda and
deferred to that discussion.
CONSENT CALENDAR
MOVED BY BRINLEY, SECONDED BY KELLEY AND CARRIED
BY UNANIMOUS VOTE TO APPROVE THE REMAINDER OF THE
CONSENT CALENDAR WITH METZE ABSTAINING ON TIME
"1a".
1. The following Minutes were approved:
a. Regular City Council Meeting — September 22, 1998.
b. Regular City Council Meeting — October 13, 1998. (F:44.4)
2. Ratified Warrant List for October 29, 1998. (F:12.3)
3. Received and filed monthly report on State C.O.P.S. Grant. (F:84.8)
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Approved Amendment to the City's Conflict of Interest Code to
Revise the List of Designated Employees by Resolution No. 98 -39 as
follows:
RESOLUTION NO. 98-39
A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY O F
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA, AMENDING THE CITY'S
CONFLICT OF INTEREST CODE IN ORDER
TO REVISE THE LIST OF DESIGNATED EMPLOYEES. (F:116.5)
31'. Second Reading — Ordinance No. 1040 — Zone Change No. 98 -4.
(F:172.2)
City Manager Watenpaugh gave an overview of the Zone Change and
it's location.
MOVED BY BRINLEY, SECONDED BY KELELY TO ADOPT
ORDINANCE NO. 1040 UPON SECOND READING BY TITLE
ONLY.
ORDINANCE NO. 1040
AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY
OF LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA, CHANGING THE
ZONING OF 6.26 GROSS ACRES ALONG FRANKLIN
STREET (BANKROFT) AND CASINO DRIVE FROM R -1
(SINGLE — FAMILY RESIDENTIAL ZONING) TO C -2
(GENERAL COMMERCIAL) — ZONE CHANGE 98 -4
UPON THE FOLLOWING ROLL CALL VOTE:
AYES: COUNCILMEMBERS: BRINLEY, KELLEY,
METZE, PAPE
NOS: COUNCILMEMBERS: ALONGI
32. Second Reading — Ordinance No. 1041 — La Laguna Specific Plan.
(17:150.2)
Mayor Pape called upon the person who requested to speak.
Mr. Gene Frick, 17205 Monterey Road, stated that he was unable to
address this issue at the first reading and wished to state his opposition
to the development because it represents "sprawl development" which
have high impact on wild areas. He noted that the City would not be
able to supply services, which is a continuing trend in the City of Lake
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Elsinore area. He noted that he responded to the EIR in writing and
stated that he should receive a written response within 10 days of the
certification of the EIR. He commented that in his letter he
recommended that the City should redo the EIR, since it was done in
1991 and a lot has changed since then. He further noted the inability
of the City to build and staff a fire station and supply emergency
response in a timely manner. He explained that an EIR must state the
current circumstances, and this EIR does not. Mr. Frick stated that the
development is in a high -risk fire area and according to CEQA rules
this problem must be mitigated. He recommended that Council take
another good hard look at this project and examine the ability of the
City to provide services, especially safety and the ability to address
emergency situations.
Mayor Pape noted that at the last meeting, Council spent well over an
hour addressing the issues stated by Mr. Frick.
City Attorney Leibold noted that the final EIR does include response
to comments that were received during the comment period. She
explained that the EIR was certified at the last meeting by resolution
and tonight the only action before the City Council is the ordinance
adopting the Specific Plan.
MOVED BY BRINLEY, SECONDED BY KELLEY TO ADOPT
ORDINANCE NO. 1041 UPON SECOND READING BY TITLE
ONLY.
ORDINANCE NO. 1041
AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA,
ADOPTING THE LA LAGUNA ESTATES SPECIFIC PLAN.
UPON THE FOLLOWING ROLL CALL VOTE:
AYES: COUNCILMEMBERS: ALONGI, BRINLEY,
KELLEY, METZE, PAPE
NOS: COUNCILMEMBERS: NONE
ITEM PULLED FROM THE CONSENT CALENDAR
4. Capital Project Revision. (F:30.3)(X:156.2)
City Manager Watenpaugh noted that this item is being presented as a
housekeeping item. He indicated that this was an approved budget
item and were not included in the resolution. He explained that it was
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an oversight and that the items listed needed to be addressed to create
a proper paper trail for the Auditors. He explained that on the Capital
Projects list, includes all the items listed and were approved with the
budget. He gave an overview of each of the projects and their
funding.
Chris Hyland, 15191 Wavecrest Drive, noted that when she read the
paper she was shocked to see that the City had found extra money tc
fund these unnecessary projects. She stated her objections to the
expenditure of the funds and noted the many needs of the City. She
asked where the money was found to do the listed project. She
questioned the source of money to increase staff's pay.
Dick Knapp, City Treasurer, questioned the use of palm trees in the
median on Railroad Canyon Road. He noted the size of the median
and the size of the trees. He stated that there would not be proper
planting room for the palms and could present a danger because of
loss of visibility. He stated that the palms will block the light from
the lampposts and asked how much this project will cost. He
suggested the use of low profile shrubbery.
MOVED BY BRINLEY, SECONDED BY METZE TO APPROVE
CAPITAL PROJECT REVISION.
City Manager Watenpaugh stated that there are no secret funds and
that the money for the listed Capital Improvement Projects was a
budgeted item and the money cannot be used for services. He
addressed the palm trees and noted that if any of the palms are too
large and create a hazard, they will not be used. He noted that none of
the trees that are being located will be coming from private property
and a list of what trees are to be used will be provided for City
Treasurer Knapp.
THE FOREGOING MOTION WAS APPROVED BY UNANIMOUS
VOTE.
THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING RECESSED AT 7:22 P.M.
THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING RECONVENED AT 7:23 P.M.
PUBLIC COMMENTS — NON AGENDIZED ITEMS
Beverly Mumphrey, HOPE, 16430 Monterey Street, presented a quilt
to the Lake Elsinore Historical Society who won the quilt in a raffle.
She noted the amount of work and effort that was invested in this quilt
and thanked everyone that worked on it. The quilt was displayed
which showed several historical scenes in the community.
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Donna Morran, Lake Elsinore Historical Society, thanked H.O.P.E.
for their efforts and stated that the quilt will be displayed at the
Annual Lake Elsinore Historical Society Fashion Show. She thanked
the City Council and staff. She expressed a special thanks to Teri
Edelbrock for all her help and consideration.
Chris Hyland, 15191 Wavecrest Drive, noted an article in the
newspaper regarding a lawsuit against Cleveland Ridge Community
of Interest and Meadowbrook. She stated that they are not opposed to
growth, but rather they are opposed to being a part of the City. She
stated that the $40,000 expended on the lawsuit is a waste of the
taxpayer's money. She suggested that the Mayor revise his opinions
and comments regarding this issue.
Don Foster, 29256 Northpointe, stated that he and his wife watch
every City Council Meeting to keep up with the business of the City.
He stated that week after week he has watched Ms. Hyland berate the
City and Council about everything. He noted the recent comments
about the Lake Elsinore Lighting and Landscaping and stated that he
felt that he should respond to the rest of the citizens of the City. He
noted that the City is not responsible for landscaping on residential
streets, however the City is responsible for the major corridors
through neighborhoods which are landscaped by developers. He
indicated that he and his wife feel that the City is doing a fine job and
it is worth the money to keep the community beautiful. He noted the
landscaping on Grand Avenue and other sites around the City. He
mentioned a problem with landscaping that he called into Public
Works and noted their honest response and attention to the problem.
He stated his appreciation of staff and their efforts.
Dick Knapp, City Treasurer, commented on the landscaping and
stated that Public Works has been repairing sprinklers on Grand
Avenue. He questioned the median on Collier in front of the Outlet
Center. He stated that he felt that Council should address this area.
He noted a low spot on Collier and the problem with collection of rain
in that area. He asked that something be done with the landscaping on
Collier Avenue. He stated that the property owner listed on the
Closed Session is incorrect.
CITY MANAGER COMMENTS
1. Commented that there will be some theme decorating on the
light poles in the downtown area for the holiday season.
2. Winterfest will be held on Friday, December 4, 1998, at 5:15
p.m. which will include the tree lighting.
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3. The Christmas Boat Parade will be held on Saturday, December
5, 1998, at 5:30 p.m. Information for this event can be obtained
from Community Services or Mr. Pete Dawson.
CITY ATTORNEY COMMENTS
She clarified that the Cleveland Ridge lawsuit is not a litigation
that addresses forced annexation. She indicated that it is
litigation addressing the City's Sphere of Influence. She noted
that the purpose of the suit is to challenge LAFCO's decision to
allow the Cleveland Ridge to be removed from the City's
Sphere of Influence. She addressed the costs to date and stated
that the amount of money expended to date is half of what Ms.
Hyland has stated. She explained that there has been no
direction from Council for long term action in connection to
these cases.
CITY COUNCIL COMMENTS
Mayor Pro Tem Kelley commented on the following:
Thanked GFI for the good j ob they did with the races. She
stated that it was very exciting even though it rained on Sunday.
She stated that she thought that the riders had a lot of fun.
2. Thanked Beverly Mumphrey for the dinner at HOPE and
commended all the ladies of the organization for their hard
work on such a beautiful quilt which they donated to the
Historical Society. She encouraged everyone in the City to go
to the Museum and view the quilt.
3. Indicated that during the Winterfest, the Elsinore Valley Arts
Network will be sponsoring entertainment, in the Cultural
Center, from 5:00 p.m. to 9:30 p.m. She noted that it will be
local talent and encouraged everyone to attend.
4. Reminded the public that the City of Lake Elsinore will be
getting a new 28,000 square foot Police Department which is in
cooperation between the County and the City. She noted that it
would be right across the street from the existing Station.
Councilwoman Brinley commented on the following:
Thanked Ms. Mumphrey for donating the quilt to the Historical
Society and concurred with Mayor Pro Tern Kelley regarding
the beauty of the quilt.
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2. Announced that the Historical Society will be presenting their
Third Annual Fashion Show on November 13th and 14th She
noted that the event would be held on Friday at 7:30 p.m. and
on Saturday at 2:00 p.m. She indicated that they will be
featuring fashions from the past and encouraged the community
to attend.
3. Congratulated Gary Kelley and Steve Miller on their election to
the Elsinore Valley Water Municipal District. She stated that
City Council is looking forward to an open communication and
cooperative working condition. She noted her pleasure at the
outcome of the election.
4. Congratulated Ken Calvert, Bruce Thompson and Ray Haynes
on their reelection.
5. Congratulated Goat Breker, GFI, who had a very successful
event. She noted the amount of people who attended the races
and further noted that everyone seemed to have a great time.
Councilman Alongi commented on the following:
1. Noted that he was asked to make a presentation, and stated that
he feels about HOPE, like Mayor Pro Tern Kelley feels about
the library. He stated that one feeds the mind and the other the
body. He stated that without a good nourished body a mind
couldn't function properly. He stated that the people that serve
HOPE show maximum dedication to the community. He
further noted that all of the volunteers are retired and semi-
retired and asked what they can do for their brothers and sisters.
Councilman Alongi commended Ms. Mumphrey for her
donation of the quilt to the Historical Museum. He stated that
he would like to see one more thing added to the quilt and that
is the names of the people who worked the different squares
and the names of the volunteers that are working at HOPE now.
He stated that it was an honor to be asked to present the
wonderful quilt to the City of Lake Elsinore Historical
Museum. He stated that everyone could enjoy the quilt when it
is placed on display in the museum. He stated when there are
people in the community who give so much, they need to be
recognized. He noted that all that is seen in the newspaper is
bad news, and it is important to recognize the heroes in the
community as well. He thanked HOPE for inviting him to do
the presentation of the quilt. He stated that he would make his
comments about the Mayor later.
2. Commented on the dinner that HOPE gave at the Presbyterian
Church and stated that he had a good time.
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3. Commended GFI for a great event. He noted that there was no
trail of beer trucks around the event and he did not see people
drinking. He stated that it is good to see a great organization
like GFI put on an event and not see all the beer stalls. He
stated that it proves that the community can have a good time
without having drinking around our town. He further thanked
the community for their patience they expressed throughout the
events. He noted the impact on the local residents.
4. Compared the length of time for the traffic signal to be installed
at Highway 74 for the school versus the signal at the new
Albertson's signs. He stated that the light should be installed
and the light can be moved when the Fast Food restaurant is
built just as the owner of the new Arco Station at Four Corners
moved the light at that location. He noted that the fact would
be that the light would be up and operating rather than waiting
on someone to make a decision on building. He stated that it
seems that the Mayor places more important on food than the
safety of the children. He noted how quickly the light went up
on Casino Drive for the new Auto Dealership and still can't get
a light up at Highway 74.
Gave an up -date on his court trial and stated that a jury has been
picked. He noted that the 60 potential jurors were asked how
many voted and only 16 people raised their hand. He stated
that in his opinion, other than the 16 people who raised their
hand the others have no right to serve on a jury. He noted that
if they don't have the interest to vote for their Country, State,
County or City then they should not sit in judgment of anyone.
He further stated that those that tools the time to vote and be
active in the system are the people that should judge. He noted
that another interesting thing about the court is that the items
are allegations and in the State of California he is presumed
innocent until proven otherwise. Councilman Alongi stated that
it is a great honor to be in a country where we have so many
rights to protect ourselves. He noted that one of the jurors that
was interviewed and was dismissed, was from a country where
you are guilty until proven innocent and stay in jail until you
produce evidence that you are innocent; however in this country
you still have your freedom until the jury renders a decision one
way or the other.
6. Announced that he would not be sitting in Closed Sessions until
his case is over. He noted that because of the confidentially of
the cases heard by Council and not knowing what the outcome
of the trial will be, he felt that he should not be in a position to
have any further knowledge of the City's legal positions on any
item. He stated that his decision would become effective
tonight.
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7. He- stated,that he will ryontinue to fight in court and noted that
Thursday the attorr ys will gfve their opening statements. He
stated that,the judge stated that it, might take up to December 7,
1998, to conclude the case. He noted that this issue would not
go away in a couple of days. He stated that he and his family
has taken a lot of abuse over his court trial and because of what
has occurred he is going to fight every single acquisition. He
stated that the Mayor is an ignorant man to make the statements
that he has made publicly, not to mention taping a conversation
between himself, the Mayor and City Manager, which is a
felony. He again stated that he would attend the City Council
Meetings, however he would not take part in the Closed
Sessions.
8. Noted that he has a tape on the Medfly and invited the public to
contact him to inform themselves in regard to this serious pest.
9. Thanked Gary Macquinn, an employee of the Department of
Transportation, for his letter of support.
10. Stated that the purpose of creating a Redevelopment Agency is
to remove blight and encourage low to moderate income.
However, the City of Indian Wells created a Redevelopment
Agency and they openly discriminate against low to moderate
income housing. He stated that they take the tax dollars that are
derived from that area and give the money to big business to
build things in the desert. He noted that is the reason why 290
occurred and why the State Senate and Assembly are attacking
Redevelopment Agencies. He stated that the RDA is a good
tool to accomplish goals, however its Indian Wells and other
cities that are causing the actions against Redevelopment
Agencies, and give them a bad name. He indicated that RDA's
divert taxes and can be a very good thing, however they must
be used properly.
Councilman Metze commented on the following:
1. Concurred with Council regarding the donation of the quilt and
thanked the Historical Society for their acceptance and
willingness to share with the community.
2. Thanked Mr. Foster for his positive comments. He stated that it
is refreshing to hear someone comment on things that the City
has done right. He stated that other speakers complain about
"A" and "B" and when they are fixed, they complain that the
City did not fix "X" and "Y ". He indicated that it is a "no win"
situation, however Council does their best.
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Mayor Pape commented on the following:
1. Noted that at the Historical Society Museum has buttons
available which state "I Love Lake Elsinore ". He indicated that
they are a one - dollar donation and encouraged everyone to
purchase one.
2. Announced that this Saturday is the CAP Parade, which will be
on Graham and Main Street.
3. Apologized that he missed the HOPE dinner. He stated that he
did not want to pass on his flu.
CLOSED SESSIONS j
City Attorney Leibold announced that there would only be three
Closed Session Items this evening. Which will be items A, B, and C,
which are listed on the Agenda as follows:
A. CONFERENCE WITH LEGAL COUNSEL — EXISTING
LITIGATION (Subdivision (a) of Section 54956.9)
City of Lake Elsinore vs. All Persons (Cleveland Ridge)
— Case No. RIC 311942.
B. CONFERENCE WITH LEGAL CONSEL — ANTICIPATED
LITIGATION (Significant exposure to litigation pursuant to
subdivision (a) of Section 54956.9)
City of Lake Elsinore vs. All Persons (Meadowbrook) —
Case No. RIC 317305
C. CONFERENCE WITH REAL PROPERTY NEGOTIATIOR —
Property: APN # 389 - 220 -004 — Negotiating parties: City of
Lake Elsinore (Buyer) and Dillingeers' (Seller) Under
negotiation: Price and terms of payment.
THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING WAS ADJOURNED TO CLOSED
SESSION AT 7:58 P.M.
THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING RECONVENED AT 8:30 P.M.
WITH THE )FOLLOWING ACTION TAKEN:
A. CITY ATTORNEY LEIBOLD PROVIDED STATUS REPORT.
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1998
B. CITY ATTORNEY LEIBOLD PROVIDED STATUS REPORT.
C. THE CITY COUNCIL GAVE DIRECTION TO THE CITY
ATTORNEY WITH RESPECT TO PRICE AND TERMS.
ADJOURNMENT
THE REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING WAS ADJOURNED
AT 8:30 P.M.
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KEVIN W. PAPE, MAYOR
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
ATTEST:
ADRIA L. BRYNING, DEFUT ?Y Cl CLERK
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
MINUTES
REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
183 NORTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA
TUESDAY, DECEMBER 8. 1998
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CALL TO ORDER
The Regular City Council Meeting was called to order by Mayor Pape at
7:02 p.m.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
The Pledge of Allegiance was led by City Manager Watenpaugh.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: COUNCILMEMBERS:
ABSENT: COUNCILMEMBERS
ALONGI, BRINLEY,
KELLEY, METZE,
PAPE
NONE
Also present were: Executive Director Watenpaugh, Legal Counsel
Leibold, Administrative Services Director Boone, Community Development
Director Brady, City Engineer O'Donnell, Assistant to the City Manager
Best, Public Services Director Sapp, Police Chief Walsh, and Deputy City
Clerk Bryning.
PUBLIC COMMENTS — AGENDIZED ITEMS
None.
CONSENT CALENDAR
The following items were pulled from the Consent Calendar for further
discussion and consideration:
Item No.'s 4 and 8.
MOVED BY BRINLEY, SECONDED BY KELLEY AND CARRIED
BY UNANIMOUS VOTE TO APPROVE THE REMAINDER OF THE
CONSENT CALENDAR.
The following Minutes were approved:
a. Regular City Council Meeting — October 27, 1998
b. Regular City Council Meeting — November 10, 1998 (F:44.4)
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2. Ratified Warrant Lists for November 12, and November 30, 1998.
(F:12.3)
Received and filed the Monthly Investment Report for September
1998. (17:12.5)
Rejected and referred to Claims Administrator the Claim Against the
City submitted by Peter J. Fenton (CL #98 -21). (F:52.2)
6. Approved the contract with Harris & Associates for Plan Checking
and authorize the City Manager to sign the contract. (17:68.1)
7. Approved the Notice of Completion by R.J. Noble Company for
Mission Trail Rehabilitation Project. (F:156.2)
31. 25th Year CDBG Senior Center Application. (17:84.2)(X:144.3)
City Manager Watenpaugh gave an overview of the item and
explained that the City applies to the County for a portion of the
CDBG Funds to help operate the Senior Citizens Center. He noted
that this is not a portion of the City's local dollars, but rather county
funding to offset part of the cost due to County residents that use the
facility and has been supported in the past by the County Supervisor.
He explained that the Office on Aging has instructed the City to
request $38,000, which is $8,000 more than was requested in the past.
He noted that the increase is because in the past the Office on Aging
funded a part-time position at the Senior Center and they will not be
continuing the funding; therefore, the City is requesting that the
County pick up that portion of the budget for part-time staffing. City
Manager Watenpaugh stated that it is staff s recommendation to
approve the Application for the 25th Year CDBG Senior Center.
Councilman Alongi asked if the increase of $8,000 would be deducted
from the $50,000 that the City currently gives the Senior Center. City
Manager Watenpaugh stated that it would not. He noted that the
increase is being requested from the County of Riverside and the City
will request $50,000 to be budgeted to the Senior Center.
MOVED BY BRINLEY, SECONDED BY METZE AND
CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE TO APPROVE THE
APPLICATION AND SUBMIT TO THE COUNTY OF
RIVERSIDE REQUESTING CONTINUED FUNDING OF THE
OPERATIONS OF THE LAKE ELSINORE SENIOR
ACTIVITY CENTER THROUGH THE COUNTY'S 25TH YEAR
PUBLIC SERVICE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK
GRANT FUNDS IN THE AMOUNT OF $38,000.
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32. Extension of time for Tentative Tract Map No. 25171 and Tentative
Tract Map No. 26459 (TMP Tuscany Oaks, Ltd.). (F:160.2)
City Manager Watenpaugh gave an overview of the project and stated
that staff recommends that City Council grant the last available twelve
month extension of time for Tentative Tract Map No. 25171 and
Tentative Tract Map No. 26459 which shall expire September 24,
1999, based on findings and conditions.
MOVED BY BRINLEY, SECONDED BY METZE, AND CARRIED
BY UNANIMOUS VOTE TO APPROVE THE EXTENSION OF TIME
FOR TENTATIVE TRACT MAP NO. 25171 AND TENTATIVE
TRACT MAP NO. 26459, (TMP TUSCANY OAKS, LTD.) WITH THE
FOLLOWING FINDINGS AND CONDITIONS.
FINDINGS
1. Substantial progress toward the development of this Tract Map
has taken place.
2. Conditions have been added by the Engineering and Planning
Divisions to insure the development will not impact public
health, safety and welfare.
3. The project as proposed and conditioned is consistent with the
Goals, Policies and Objectives of the General Plan.
PLANNING CONDITIONS
Tentative Tract Map No. 25171 Revised and Tentative Tract
Map NO. 26459 are approved subject to the approval of
General Plan Amendment No. 91 -4 and Zone Change No. 91 -6.
2. Tentative Tract Map No. 25171 Revised and Tentative Tract
Map No. 26459 will expire two (2) years from date of approval
unless an extension of time is granted the City of Lake Elsinore
City Council in accordance with the Subdivision Map Act.
Signage for this subdivision shall require City Permits.
4. Prior to the recordation of any final tract map, applicant shall
have entered into a school impact mitigation agreement with the
school district, or prior to recordation of any final tract map the
project shall have been included within the formation of CFD
91 -1 to be formed by School District at its cost, or annexed to
CFD 91 -1 subsequent to its formation. City shall have
considered the adequacy of the school facilities or available
means of financing school facilities to meet the needs and
demand of new development proposed in such tentative map to
be approved.
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5. Street names within the subdivision shall be approved by the
Planning Division.
6. Bicycle lanes and bus turnouts are to be provided subject to the
requirements of the Community Services Director or his
designee.
7. Provide fire buffer zone around entire tract perimeter and
landscape for fire retardant and erosion control as required by
the Riverside County Fire Department and the Planning
Manager.
8. The applicant shall provide connection to public sewer for each
lot within the subdivision. No service laterals shall cross -
adjacent property lines and shall be delineated on engineering
sewer plans and profiles for submittal to the EVMWD.
9. Trailers or mobile homes utilized during the construction phase
of this project shall require a bond and be subject to approval of
the Planning Manager or designee, prior to issuance of grading
permit.
10. The developer shall establish a Homeowners Association prior
to Final Map to manage and impose fees to maintain all slopes,
common areas, open space, private drainage facilities,
firebreaks, habitat areas, private recreational facilities and
grounds, private streets and any other common amenities. This
association shall be established subject to current State laws and
be subject to the approval of the City Attorney and Planning
Manager or designee who shall review all CC & R's and rules
for their adequacy and completeness. The City Attorney shall
review the CC & R's, homeowners' association documents and
all documents to convey title to the Homeowners Association.
11. Subdivider shall record CC & R's for the project prohibiting
on- street storage of boats, motorhomes, trailers and trucks over
one (1) ton capacity. CC & R's shall also include screening any
ground base disk and no roof - mounted or front yard disk shall
be allowed. CC & R's shall be subject to the approval of the
Planning Manager and the City Attorney, prior to recordation of
any deeds or final map. CC & R's shall be recorded prior to
issuance of any Certificate of Occupancy for the units when
developed in the future.
12. House plotting, architectural drawings, floor plans, landscaping
and fences /walls shall require Minor Design Review approval
prior to issuance of building permits. The model complex must
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provide off - street parking and one model must incorporate
xeriscape landscaping with identifying signage. All standards
of development and procedural steps in effect at the Minor
Design Review submittal shall apply for this project.
13. Interim and permanent erosion control measures are required.
The applicant shall bond 120% for material and labor for one
(1) year for erosion control landscaping at the time the site is
rough graded.
14. Prior to issuance of any grading permit or building permit,
subdivider shall sign and complete an "Acknowledgment of
Conditions" and shall return the executed original to the
Community Development Department.
15. All project mitigation measures, as specified by the adopted
EIR and its mitigation monitoring program is required to be
implemented into the project in accordance with the times
specified in the mitigation monitoring program as amended by
these Conditions of Approval.
16. A noise analysis to determine noise impacts of proposed
Elsinore Ridge Road is required prior to Final Map.
17. Developer shall participate in a Mello -Roos financing District
or other financing mechanism for the Railroad Canyon -
Interstate 15 fire station facility. Proof of participation is
required prior to Final Map.
18. Additional environmental review in accordance with the CEQA
guidelines is required prior to Final Map.
19. Prior to final map an agreement between State Fish and Game
and the Army Corps of Engineers for Section 1600 and 404
permits shall be obtained for impacts to the blue line
watercourse and Mulefat Scrub habitat.
20. Prior to issuance of grading permits shall pay any required
Stephen's Kangaroo Rat fees of the species habitat conservation
program.
21. A focuses spring survey to determine sensitive plant species
prior to final map is required. Future mitigation may include
avoidance (site redesign), transplanting, purchase of occupied
habitat, propagation programs etc..., and/or as recommended
by State Fish and Game. If redesign is required it shall come
back to the Planning Commission.
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22. A focus survey for the San Diego Horned Lizard and Orange
Throated Whiptail prior to final map is required. Surveys for
this species shall focus on ridge tops and canyon bottoms.
Mitigation shall be that required by the California Department
of Fish and Game.
23. Developer shall participate in any AB 939 City adopted
ordinance for solid waste reduction. Areas shall be set aside
within the tract for recycling drop off areas prior to issuance of
final map.
DESIGN /AESTHETIC IMPACT MITIGATION
24. Subject to a Geotechnical Report, consideration shall be given
to cut slopes exceeding 2:1 slopes that minimize the number of
30 -foot benches required. All slopes shall be contour graded
subject to the approval of the Community Development
Manager or his designee. All down drains wherever possible
shall be diagonal along the face of slopes or colored concrete
shall be used. A landscaping plan that minimizes stark cuts
shall, as clustered plant groupings of ground cover, shrubs and
trees shall be used. The planting pallet shall be reviewed by a
biologist or native plant horticulturist in conjunction with
Riverside County Fire Department and the City's Landscape
architect for the purpose of incorporating Riversidean Sage
Scrub species. Improvements shall be installed prior to
Certificate of Occupancy.
25. The parkways of Elsinore Hills Drive, Elsinore Ridge Road,
East Cambern Loop and the loop street within Tract 24659 shall
be landscaped in accordance with adopted City Public Right of
way guidelines, and include a combination of ground cover,
shrubs and trees. All street trees shall be a minimum of 24"
box. Improvements shall be installed prior to Certificate of
Occupancy.
26. "Prior to issuance of grading permit, the applicant shall pay
required fees to the City for implementation of the Mitigation
Monitoring Program."
27. All streets with reversing curves shall be separated by a tangent,
length of tangent to be approved by the City Engineer.
28. The minimum horizontal radius for local streets shall be 300
feet including East Cambem Loop.
29. Eliminate "H" Street off site in Tract 26459. Make "B" and
"C" Street loop streets on Tract 26459.
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30. Lots 186,187, and 188 in Tract 26459 shall be better lots.
31. Lots 171,172, 173, 174 and 175 in Tract 25171 shall be lettered
lots.
32. All major manufactured slopes exceeding 30 -feet in height shall
be contour graded.
33. All major manufactured slopes exceeding 30 -feet in height shall
provide room for bench drains.
34. The rear property line for all lots with rear yard slopes shall be
moved two feet (2') away from the top of the slope.
35. A landscape maintenance easement shall be recorded prior to
Final Map for the maintenance of all large sloped areas within
individual lots. The maintenance of these slopes shall be the
responsibility of the HOA. The developer shall install all
landscaping in common areas and in common maintenance
areas.
36. All major slopes outside the right -of -way for Elsinore Hills
Road shall be maintained by HOA. The City may, at its option,
decide to maintain these slopes after reviewing the tract
landscape plans.
37. Lot 17 and 18 on Tract 26459 shall be within the tract
boundary.
ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT
38. All Public Works requirements shall be complied with as a
condition of development as specified in the lake Elsinore
Municipal Code prior to final map approval.
39. Dedicate underground water rights to the City (Municipal Code,
Title 16, and Chapter 16.52.030). Document can be obtained
from the Engineering Department.
40. Pay all Capital Improvement and Plan Check fees (Municipal
Code, Title 16, Chapter 16.34; Resolution 85 -26).
41. Submit a "Will- Serve" letter to the City Engineering
Department, from the applicable water district, stating that
water and sewer arrangements have been made for this project.
Subject this letter prior to final map approval.
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42. Construct all off -site public works improvements per approved
street plans (Municipal Code, Title 12). Plans must be
approved and signed by the City Engineer prior to final map
approval.
43. Pay all fees and meet requirements of encroachment permit
issued by the Engineering Department for construction of
public works improvements (Municipal Code, Title 12, Chapter
12.08 and Resolution 83 -78).
44. Street improvement plans and specifications shall be prepared
by a Civil Engineer. Improvements shall be designed and
constructed to Riverside County Road Department Standards,
latest edition, and City Codes (Lake Elsinore Municipal Code
12.04 and 16.34).
45. Applicant shall obtain all necessary off -site easements for off -
site grading from the adjacent property owners prior to final
map approval.
46. Arrangements for relocation of utility company facilities
(power poles, vaults, etc.) shall be the responsibility of the
property owner or his agent.
47. Provide fire protection facilities as required in writing by
Riverside County Fire Department.
48. Provide street lighting and show lighting improvements on
street improvement plans as required by the City Engineer.
49. Submit Hydrology and hydraulic study for review and approval
by City Engineer prior to approval of final map. Developer
shall mitigate any flooding and or erosion downstream caused
by development of site and diversion of drainage, subject to
City Engineer approval.
50. All drainage facilities in this tract shall be constructed to
Riverside County Flood Control District standards.
51. With the development of this site, all storm facilities shall
provide tract and immediate downstream property owners with
100 -year storm flood protection.
52. Applicant shall enter into an agreement with the City for the
construction of public works improvements and shall post the
appropriate bonds.
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53. Provide soils, Geology and Seismic Reports including street
design recommendations. Provide final Soils Report showing
compliance with preliminary and finish grade certification.
54. All lot drainage shall be conveyed to a public facility or
accepted by adjacent property owners by a letter of darainage
acceptance or conveyed to a drainage easement.
55. Developer shall provide No Parking and Street Sweeping Signs
for streets with tract or pay a fee for installation by the City.
56. Developer shall install blue reflective pavement markers in the
street at Fire hydrant locations.
57. Map shall provide for all local streets to have sixty foot (60')
right -of -way with forty foot (40') curb -to -curb. Restricted local
streets (cul -de -sacs) shall have fifty -foot with a three -foot (3')
utility easement on each side.
58. Desirable grade for local streets is nine percent (9 %). The
maximum grade of fifteen percent (15 %) should only be used
because of design constraints.
59. All utilities except electrical over 12kv shall be placed
underground, as approved by serving utility.
60. Grading for this subdivision shall comply with the grading
objectives and guidelines established in the Lake Elsinore
Municipal Code.
61. Applicant shall obtain off -site drainage acceptance letters from
affected adjacent property owners to be recorded prior to or
with final map.
62. Minimum horizontal curve radius for secondary streets shall be
1,000 feet.
63. Applicant shall participate in an Assessment District for the
design and construction of the Wasson Canyon Road
circulation system prior to final map approval. If an
Assessment District is not formed this applicant will be
responsible for providing two (2) paved access roads to his tract
as approved by the City Engineer.
64. Applicant shall cooperate with developers to the north and east
for the design and construction of Elsinore Ridge Road
connection to Camino Del Norte, Cambern and Ramsgate.
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65. The Geology Report submitted for the subdivision shall
included:
a) Identification of all faults to define potential hazards.
b) Stability of man made slopes under either static or
dynamic conditions.
c) Differential settlement of engineered fills of significant
thickness, as determined by geologist.
66. All existing utility easements through tract, which interfere with
development, shall be relinquished prior to final map approval.
67. If right -of -way or easements are abandoned as part of this
development, then adjacent property affected by the
abandonment must still have access to public maintained right -
of -ways.
68. All open space and slopes except for public parks and schools
and Flood Control District facilities, outside the public right -of-
way will be owned and maintained by either a homeowner's
association or private property owner.
69. Developer shall contribute a pro -rata share for the design and
construction for the proposed traffic circulation improvements
recommended and as shown on Exhibit `S" in Traffic Study
prepared by Kahn, Kain and Associate in October 1990 prior to
Final Map.
70. All improvement plans and tract maps shall be digitized. At
certificate of occupancy applicant shall submit tapes and /or
discs which are compatible with City's ARC Info /GIS or
developer to pay $1,000 per sheet for city digitizing.
71. If public improvements are to be constructed in phases, than a
phasing plan must be approved by the City Engineer prior to
building permits.
72. A National Pollutant Discharge Elimination System permit will
be required of construction activity, underway or commencing
after November 8, 1991, that would disturb five or more acres.
The permit is to be obtained from the Regional Water Quality
Control Board having jurisdiction. The owner shall provide the
City with proof of his having filed a Notice of Intent with the
Regional Board prior to issuance of grading or building
permits.
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73. Eliminate the indication of grading to accommodate stub road,
but retain the easement right on east Camber Road.
74. The owner shall provide the City with Storm Water Pollution
Prevention Plan per the Regional Water Quality Control for
Natural Pollutants Discharge Elimination System (NPDES)
prior to issuance of grading permit.
75. Developer shall be subject to all Master Planned Drainage fees
& will receive credit for all Master Planned Drainage facilities
constructed.
76. Applicant shall submit a traffic control plan showing all traffic
control devices for the tract to be approved prior to final map
approval. All traffic control devices shall be installed prior to
final inspection of public improvements. This includes No
Parking and Street Sweeping Signs for streets within the tract.
77. Storm drain inlet facilities shall be appropriately stenciled to
prevent illegally dumping in the drain system; the wording and
stencil shall be approved by the city engineer.
78. The issuance of further grading permits will require a detailed
phasing plan (including the construction of the Wasson Canyon
crossing) for the grading subject to approval by the City
Engineer. Bonding and erosion control will be required for
each Phase.
80. Intersection site distance shall meet the design criteria of the
CALTRANS Design Manual (particular attention should be
taken for intersections on the inside of curves). If site distance
can be obstructed, a special limited use easement must be
recorded to limit the slope, type of landscaping and wall
placement.
33. Final Action, If Any, concerning closed session item pursuant to
Government Code Section item pursuant to Government Code
Sections 54957 and 54957.6.
Mayor Pape explained that this item would be discussed after Closed
Session.
ITEM PULLED FROM THE CONSENT CALENDAR
4. Proposed Permit - Metricom, Inc. (F:68.1)
City Manager Watenpaugh explained that this is a request to attach
radio mechanisms to City light standards. He explained that
Metricom deals with communications. He noted that the City
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Attorney has reviewed the contract. He further noted the diagrams
attached to the staff report that explain how the mechanism attaches to
the light standard and what they look like. He explained that there is
estimated revenue of $5,000 to $6,000 per year. He further explained
that they have offered 20 subscriptions at 50% off the regular price for
the City. City Manager Watenpaugh explained that Community
Services Director Sapp has been negotiating with Metricom and if
Council has questions he is available to answer.
Mayor Pape asked how long the company has been in business.
Community Services Director Sapp stated that he does not know
exactly, however it has been for some time and their business spreads
from Northern California to this area and is a well - established
business. He noted that if approved, they would have services
available by December of next year. Mayor Pape stated that he felt
that 5% was rather a high number for saturation, however there is no
risk to the City and will generate revenue. He noted that in City Hall
there are some hook -ups to the Internet, and asked that instead of 20
subscriptions at half price, that they provide approximately six
subscriptions at 100 %. Community Services Director Sapp stated that
it is something that can be discussed with Mr. Bartoccini from
Metricom. Mayor Pape stated that it would be far more beneficial to
the City to have just a few at 100% than a whole lot at 50 %, since the
City does not need those many.
MOVED BY BRINLEY, SECONDED BY KELLEY TO APPROVE THE
PERMIT AGREEMENT WITH METRICOM INC. AND AUTHORIZE
THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE ALL DOCUMENTS
NECESSARY TO COMPLETE THE TRANSACTION SUBJECT TO THE
REQUEST BY THE MAYOR FOR SIX AT 100% OF THE COST BY
METRICOM FOR THE NETWORK SERVICE INSTEAD OF 20
NETWORKS AT 50% OF THE COST.
City Manager Watenpaugh clarified the motion and asked that if
Metricom did not wish to award the six networks at 100% of the cost,
then the item would be brought back before Council. Councilwoman
Brinley stated that was the intent of the motion.
THE FOREGOING MOTION WAS APPROVED BY UNANIMOUS
VOTE.
8. Award of Contract for the Chaney Street Pavement Rehabilitation
Project. (F:156.2)
Councilwoman Brinley excused herself from the dais because her
home is close to the project.
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1998
City Manager Watenpaugh explained that one of the benefits of doing
this rehabilitation is that the City will be recycling the asphalt that will
be removed. He explained that the asphalt would be mixed with
emulsion and spread on some of the City's dirt streets. Mayor Pape
stated that the work on Chaney would start in mid January and take
approximately 3 to 4 weeks to complete. He noted that the road
would be accessible to the residents only.
MOVED BY PAPE, SECONDED BY KELLEY AND CARRIED BY A
VOTE OF 4 TO 0 WITH BRINLEY ABSTAINING TO APPROVE
THE AWARD OF CONTRACT
Mayor Pape noted that Business Item No. 33 is left on the Agenda,
however it is necessary to recess to Closed Session before Council can
make a decision, therefore out of courtesy to the person who has
requested to speak for Public Comments he will move to that item.
PUBLIC COMMENTS
Chris Hyland, 15191 Wavecrest Drive, thanked Community Service
Director Sapp and his staff for taking rapid action in addressing the
landscaping around her tract. She noted that there is still a lot that needs to
be done, however she wanted to recognize the efforts that he and his
department have made. She noted an article in the newspaper and stated that
based on the public's first amendment right to speak at a Council Meeting to
express their views on how their tax money is spent her example of speaking
up and asking to have her tract addressed is the right way to approach this
issue. She addressed Mr. Foster's comment in the paper that she was stupid
and stated that it was a big mistake since she has more knowledge in her
little finger than he has in his brain.
CLOSED SESSION
City Attorney Leibold announced that there was one item for Closed
Session this evening which is listed on the Agenda as follows:
A. PUBLIC EMPLOYEE PERFORMANCE EVALUATION/
CONFERENCE WITH LABOR NEGOTIATOR
(Government Code Section 54957, 54957.6) - City Manager
Evaluation.
THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING WAS ADJOURNED TO CLOSED
SESSION AT 7:15 P.M.
THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING RECONVENED AT 8:18 P.M.
WITH THE FOLLOWING ACTION TAKEN.
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CITY ATTORNEY LEIBOLD PROVIDED THE FOLLOWING
ACTION BY COUNCIL FROM CLOSED SESSION:
CITY COUNCIL MET IN CLOSED SESSION WITH THE
CITY MANAGER PURSUANT TO THE AUTHORITY OF THE
BROWN ACT ON LABOR NEGOTIATIONS AND UNDER
THE BROWN ACT FINAL ACTION ON THE CONTRACT
SHOULD BE TAKEN IN PUBLIC AND THAT IS THE
PURPOSE OF ITEM NO. 33. SHE STATED THAT THE CITY
COUNCIL HAS DIRECTED THE CITY ATTORNEY TO
MAKE CERTAIN MODIFICATIONS TO REFLECT THE
MUTUAL CONSENT AND AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE
CITY MANAGER AND THE COUNCIL. SHE NOTED THAT
AS SOON AS THE MODIFICATIONS ARE MADE AND THE
AGREEMENT IS FULLY EXECUTED, IT WOULD BE A
PUBLIC RECORD. SHE STATED THAT UNTIL THAT TIME
IT IS A DRAFT.
33. Final Action, If any, concerning closed session item pursuant to
Government Code Section 54957 and 54957.6. (F:46.1)
MOVED BY METZE, SECONDED BY KELLEY AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO APPROVE THE CONTRACT WITH THE
MODIFICATIONS AS AGREED TO BY BOTH PARTIES.
ADJOURNMENT
THE REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING WAS ADJOURNED
AT 8:20 P.M. r
VIN W. PA E, MAYOR
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
ATTEST:
ADRIA L. BR NING, EPUTY ITY CLERK
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CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
MINUTES
CITY COUNCIL STUDY SESSION
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
130 SOUTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA
TUESDAY, DECEMBER 151998
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CALL TO O
The Regular City Council Meeting was called to order by Mayor Pape at
11:10 a.m.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
Deputy City Clerk Bryning led the Pledge of Allegiance.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: BRINLEY, KELLEY
METZE, PAPE
ABSENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: ALONGI
Also present were: City Manager Watenpaugh, Assistant City
Manager Best, Administrative Services Director Boone, Community
Development Director Brady, City Engineer O'Donnell, Community
Services Director Sapp, Recreation and Tourism Manger Edelbrock, Public
Works Manager Payne, Building and Safety Manager Russell and Deputy
City Clerk Bryning.
PUBLIC COMMENTS — AGENDIZED ITEMS
None.
DISCUSSION ITEM
25th Year /CDBG Allocation Study. (F:84.2)
City Manager Watenpaugh explained that annually City Council has a
Study Session to make a review of the requests for the Community
Development Block Grant Funding. He noted that the City of Lake
Elsinore is not an entitled Agency and therefore gets a portion of the
funding based on population, through the County of Riverside. He
stated that the City would receive $197,000 this year and of that 15%
can be spent of public service programs with the balance on public
works project. City Manager Watenpaugh stated that three years ago
Community Services Director Sapp worked out an arrangement with
the County to allow the City of Lake Elsinore to apply for the extra
cap from other cities that did not utilize their funding for public
service programs, allowing the City to spend $57,130 this year
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and the balance of $140,000 on public works projects. He indicated
that there were six applications submitted amounting to $220,000. He
explained that within the staff report there was a graph, showing what
has been requested, what is suggested and what was funded in the
previous year.
Community Services Director Sapp indicated that Don Butenshon
from HOPE and Marian Edwards from the Assistance League of
Temecula Valley (Operation School Bell) were present.
City Manager Watenpaugh noted that the Lake Elsinore Historical
Society applied for funding, however they do not qualify under the
criteria necessary for CDBG funding.
Mayor Pape questioned the amount of funds for the Senior Center.
He stated that at the last meeting the City requested $30,000 from the
County, but he thought it was $38,000. City Manager Watenpaugh
explained that in previous years the City had requested $30,000,
however this year the City is requesting $38,000.
Councilman Metze commented on Item 1 a, Section B and stated that
he would like to see a Councilmember sitting on the Committee which
will identify the specific locations in the downtown area for curbs,
gutter, sidewalk construction and replacement. He explained that
Council is approached by the citizens to have their areas addressed
more often than staff. Community Services Director Sapp explained
the location being proposed.
Mayor Pape asked if there were specific sites or areas targeted and if
it was for new construction or repairs. Community Services Director
Sapp stated that it is for both. City Manager Watenpaugh explained
that the requirement is for total replacement or new construction and
the funds can not be for repair.
Mayor Pape questioned Item 1 f, and asked if this was going to be for
the structure abatement or general violations, compliance and
structure abatement. Community Services Director Sapp indicated
that this would be for structure abatement.
City Manager Watenpaugh explained the amount of funds used last
year and the need for this program. Councilman Metze asked how
well the program is working. City Manager Watenpaugh indicated
that it is very effective.
Councilwoman Brinley asked how many buildings were abated this
year. Building and Safety Manager Russell stated that Code
Enforcement has demolished 15 units at 283 North Main Street, 2
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buildings and an out building at 801 W. Graham Street and there are
four others waiting in line for funding. Councilwoman Brinley asked
how many were scheduled for demolition this year. Building and
Safety Manager Russell stated that he had four waiting to be
demolished.
Councilwoman Brinley asked if the City recoups the money spent on
these demolitions. Building and Safety Manager Russell explained
that it is done through a cost recovery program and is done through
tax liens. City Manager Watenpaugh asked if the City has recouped
any dollars. Building and Safety Manager Russell stated that the City
has recovered some of the money spent. Councilwoman Brinley
asked how much. Building and Safety Manager Russell indicated that
The City has received $7,000 to date. City Manager Watenpaugh
asked how the budget was doing for structure abatement. Building
and Safety Manager Russell stated that they have been very careful so
it is O.K., and they have been working from CDBG funds to facilitate
more abatement. Councilman Metze asked if the funds would be
sufficient for all four. Building and Safety Manager Russell stated
that he does not have enough funds for all four and gave an overview
of the costs. Councilwoman Brinley asked how much money the City
would recoup from these abatements. Building and Safety Manager
Russell indicated that the City would recoup the entire amount. He
explained the recovery process for the funds and noted that the longest
it would take is 5 years; and then the property would be sold through a
tax lien. He indicated that the most recent properties that have been
demolished have been commercial and because of their value, the
property owners will pay the costs to preserve ownership.
Mayor Pape asked when the money from the CDBG would be
available. Community Services Director Sapp stated that the funds
are available July 1st.
Councilwoman Brinley stated that Operation School Bell and HOPE
are deserving of assistance and noted their efforts for the community.
Councilman Metze stated that he is happy that the City can increase
the amount for these organizations.
Mayor Pro Tern Kelley asked what percentages of the children
receiving services are from the City. Ms. Edwards, Assistance
League of Temecula Valley, explained that the numbers are down for
the Lake Elsinore area. She further explained that they do not have
exact numbers because they cannot ask for addresses in protection of
privacy, however they can use zip codes. She noted the wonderful
cooperation they receive from the schools. Councilwoman Brinley
asked if the program still offers all new clothes. Ms. Edwards
indicated that they offer the children all new clothing, which consists
of 3 full outfits, a backpack and school supplies, underwear and socks,
one
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sweater and one jacket per child. Councilwoman Brinley questioned
the availability of a jacket if they outgrow the one that they are given.
Ms. Edwards stated that they can receive clothes up to two times a
year and they have never turned a child away. Councilwoman Brinley
stated that she felt this was a very good program. Mayor Pro Tern
Kelley stated that being a schoolteacher she has had the opportunity to
see the program in action and noted what a good thing this does for
the students.
Mayor Pape clarified that final consideration would be presented at
the first meeting in January. City Manager Watenpaugh confirmed.
Pastor,Butenshon gave an overview of the functions of HOPE and
explained that poverty has not diminished, but rather grown and the
service level of HOPE has increased. He noted an article in the Press
Enterprise for September 7, of a field poll, which showed a high
number of people who live in poverty in the State of California. He
further noted a study done by the schools and their findings show that
20% of the students come from homes, which live in poverty or just
above the line of poverty. Pastor Butenshon stated that he is being
asked all the time if the Welfare System is doing their job, and he
stated that for those who are low income it does not offer much help.
He stated that it is training that is most needed throughout the State,
and until the State develops better job training there is going to be an
ongoing probleh --with ^poverty:
City Manager Watenpaugh stated that this item would be presented at
the January 12, 1999 City Council Meeting as proposed.
Pastor Butenshon asked what amounts would be awarded this year.
Mayor Pape stated that both HOPE and Operation School Bell would
be receiving $3,565, which is up from last year.
ADJOURNMENT
THE REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING WAS ADJOURNED
AT 12:09 P.M.
VIN W. PAP ,MAYOR
ITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
AT TES
ADRIA L. BRYNIN , DE U
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE