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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1997 Design Review Com Minutes MINUTES REGULAR DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE MEETING WEDNESDAY, JANUARY 15, 1997 ***************************************************************** The Design Review Committee Meeting was called to order at 8:06 p.m. by Chairman Sands. ROLL CALL PRESENT: COMMITIEE MEMBERS: SANDS, BARNES, SCHIFFNER, MATTHIES AND WILSEY ABSENT: COMMITTEE MEMBERS: NONE Also present were: Also present were: Community Development Director Leslie, Associate Planners De Gange and Villa, and City Engineer O'Donnell. MINUTE ACTION Moved by Committee Member Wilsey, Seconded by Committee Member Schiffner and carried by unanimous vote to approve the Minutes of the Regular Meeting of December 4, 1996, December 18,1996, Special Meeting of December 18, 1996, and the Regular Meeting of January 1, 1997, as submitted. Commissioner Matthies abstained on the Minutes of the Special Meeting of December 18, 1996. PUBLIC COMMENTS There being no request to speak the PUBLIC COMMENTS Section was closed. At this time, Associate Planner De Gange requested the Committee consider adding a business license application for Latino Services/Rios De Agua Viva Christian at 118 North Main Street to the agenda. MOVED BY COMMITTEE MEMBER MATTHIES, SECONDED BY COMMITTEE MEMBER SCHIFFNER AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO ADD THE BUSINESS LICENSE FOR 118 NORTH MAIN STREET TO THE AGENDA. DESIGN APPLICATIONS NONE BUSINESS LICENSE APPLICATIONS 1. 118 North Main Street - Latino Services/Rios De Agua Viva Christian - Rudi Gil Associate Planner De Gange explained the applicant is proposing to relocate two businesses: Latino Services, a travel agency and income tax service located at 104 North Main Street and Rios De Agua Viva Christian, a religious book and gift store located at 136 North Main Street to 118 North Main Street. Staff recommends approval of the relocation of these businesses; however, staff recommends the applicant be reminded that signage must be reviewed and approved by the DRC, and the standard condition on signage be added. MOVED BY COMMITTEE MEMBER SCHIFFNER, SECONDED BY COMMITTEE MEMBER MATTHIES AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE PAGE TWO - DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE MINUTES - JANUARY 15, 1997 OF THOSE PRESENT TO APPROVE THE BUSINESS LICENSE FOR LATINO SERVICESfRlOS DE AGUA VIVA CHRISTIAN AT 118 NORTH MAIN STREET WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITION PLACED ON THE BUSINESS LICENSE: Condition No.1: All signage shall be submitted to the Planning Department for the review and approval of the Design Review Committee (ORC), prior to installation. In addition, this signage shall be in compliance with the criteria established within the Historic Elsinore Design Standards and shall be submitted to the Planning Department for review and approval by the DRC. - STAFF COMMENTS NOTHING TO REPORT. COMMITTEE COMMENTS NOTHING TO REPORT. ADJOURNMENT THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE ADJOURNED AT 8:11 P.M. ~~-- - Respectfully Submitted, - MINUTES REGULAR DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE MEETING WEDNESDAY, FEBRUARY 5, 1997 ***************************************************************** The Design Review Committee Meeting was called to order at 7:17 p.m. by Chairman Sands. ROLL CALL PRESENT: COMMITTEE MEMBERS: SANDS, SCHIFFNER, MATTHIES AND WILSEY ABSENT: COMMITIEE MEMBERS: BARNES Also present were: Also present were: Community Development Director Leslie and Associate Planners De Gange and Villa. MINUTE ACTION Moved by Committee Member Wilsey, Seconded by Committee Member Schiffner and carried by a vote of 4-0 to approve the Minutes of January 15, 1997, as submitted. PUBLIC COMMENTS Ms. Mariana Mohylyn commented on the aesthetics of downtown. There being no further request to speak the PUBLIC COMMENTS Section was closed. DESIGN APPLICATIONS NONE BUSINESS LICENSE APPLICATIONS 1. 120 West Graham Street - Hair & Stuff - Aracely Rincon Associate Planner De Gange explained the applicant is proposing to relocate the hair salon from 124 West Graham Avenue to 120 West Graham Avenue. This use is consistent with the uses allowed in the C-1 and C-O Districts, and staff recommends approval; however, staff recommends the applicant be reminded that signage must be reviewed and approved by the DRC, and the standard condition on signage be added. There being no discussion, Chairman Sands called for a motion. MOVED BY COMMITTEE MEMBER MATTHIES, SECONDED BY COMMITTEE MEMBER WILSEY AND CARRIED BY A VOTE OF 4-0 TO APPROVE THE BUSINESS LICENSE FOR HAIR & STUFF AT 120 WEST GRAHAM AVENUE WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITION PLACED ON THE BUSINESS LICENSE: Condition No.1: All signage shall be submitted to the Planning Department for the review and approval of the Design Review Committee (DRC), prior to installation. In addition, this signage shall be in compliance with the criteria established within the Historic Elsinore Design Standards and shall be submitted to the Planning Department for review and approval by the DRC. STAFF COMMENTS NOTHING TO REPORT. PAGE TWO - DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE MINUTES - FEBRUARY 5, 1997 COMMITTEE COMMENTS NOTHING TO REPORT. ADJOURNMENT THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE ADJOURNED AT 7:21 P.M. ~~ - Respectfully Submitted, ~~ Recording Secretary - - MINUTES REGULAR DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE MEETING WEDNESDAY, FEBRUARY 19, 1997 ***************************************************************** The Design Review Committee Meeting was called to order at 7:21 p.m. by Chairman Sands. ROLL CALL PRESENT: COMMITTEE MEMBERS: SANDS, BARNES SCHIFFNER, MATTHIES AND WILSEY ABSENT: COMMITTEE MEMBERS: NONE Also present were: Also present were: Community Development Director Leslie and Associate Planner De Gange. MINUTE ACTION Moved by Committee Member Schiffner, Seconded by Committee Member Matthies and carried by a vote of 4-0 with Committee Member Barnes abstaining to approve the Minutes of February 5, 1997, as submitted. PUBLIC COMMENTS There being no request to speak the PUBLIC COMMENTS Section was closed. DESIGN APPLICATIONS 1. Freestanding Pole Sign Change of Face - 316 North Main (Elsinore Hot Springs Health Resort) - Han Lee Associate Planner De Gange explained the request is to re-review an application to change the wording on the panels of an existing freestanding pole sign at 316 North Main Street. He provided a brief background and explained an application was denied at a Special DRC meeting on December 18, 1996, based on noncompliance with previous conditions and the applicant was instructed to comply with the previous conditions and then submit a new application. He further explained the Historic Elsinore Architectural Design Standards and Zoning Ordinance requirements pertaining to legal nonconforming signs. He explained the change of face entails a change in the name of the business and a change in lettering to meet the Design Standards, and staff recommends the DRC consider the applicant's request. Chairman Sands noted for the record that the applicant was not present, and asked for discussion. Committee Member Barnes stated there has been damage from the winds; however, earlier comments that the sign needs to be brought into conformance still stand. The mass type sign is not in keeping with the Downtown area and it should be replaced with a monument entry type sign. Committee Member Wilsey commented on the economic conditions in the community and believes it would be a hardship for the applicant to bring the sign into conformance with the new standards. He stated this type of signage was indicative of the community and represents what we are trying to revitalize to, and for these reasons should rehabilitate the SIgn. Committee Member Schiffner stated he understands the desirability of placing this in conformance, but to require this would mean nothing is done and the sign would stay in an unrepaired condition and be an eyesore. If there is one side of the sign missing because of damage then that is sufficient reason to allow the change, irrespective of the PAGE TWO - DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE MINUTES - FEBRUARY 19, 1997 electrical. Asked staff if the sign was damaged or taken down in preparation of changing the name. Associate Planner De Gange stated he did not have a direct answer and could only speculate that the panel was taken down to repair the electrical. Committee Member Schiffner stated since we are going to use deterioration of electrical for sufficient reason to allow replacement of the sign that the permit approval includes reconstruction of electrical and subsequent to this the lettering can be changed. Associate Planner De Gange stated he believes the electrical has been repaired. Committee Member Schiffner stated if this is what has been done or is to be done then would approve the rehabilitation of this sign. - Committee Member Matthies stated concurrence with Committee Members Schiffner and Wilsey. She then stated she believes the electrical has been repaired. She commented on the change of color to comply with the standards. Chairman Sands stated with the grandfather clause in effect not totally opposed to allowing the sign face change, because businesses need all the help they can get these days. Feels it would be a hardship for the applicant bring the sign into conformance with the new standards. Suggested repairs to the electrical components be made prior to approving the change of face, to eliminate fire hazard if nothing else. MOVED BY COMMITTEE MEMBER WILSEY, SECONDED BY COMMITTEE MEMBER MATTHIES AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO APPROVE THE CHANGE IN THE SIGN TO BRING IT INTO WORKING ORDER, BOTH SIGN FACE AND ELECTRICAL. BUSINESS LICENSE APPLICATIONS NONE - STAFF COMMENTS NOTHING TO REPORT. COMMITTEE COMMENTS NOTHING TO REPORT. ADJOURNMENT THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE ADJOURNED AT 7:36 P.M. ~ ~~J~k----- -V--J"AME"SSANDS, CHAIRMAN Respectfully Submitted, ~~#F Recording Secretary - MINUTES SPECIAL DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE MEETING WEDNESDAY, MARCH 5,1997 ***************************************************************** The Design Review Committee Meeting was called to order at 10:00 a.m. by Chairman Sands. The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Committee Member Wilsey. ROLL CALL PRESENT: COMMITTEE MEMBERS: BARNES, WILSEY, SANDS ABSENT: COMMITTEE MEMBERS: MA TTHIES, SCHIFFNER Also present was Associate Planner John De Gange. AT TIDS TIME, ASSOCIATE PLANNER DEGANGE REQUESTED THE COMMITTEE CONSIDER ADDING A REQUEST FROM LOS COMPADRES MEAT MARKET FOR SIGNAGE AT 161 SOUTH MAIN STREET. MOVED BY WILSEY, SECONDED BY BARNES AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO ADD 161 SOUTH MAIN STREET TO THE AGENDA AS ITEM 5. DESIGN APPLICATIONS 1. Window Signage - 120 South Main - Marilyn's Memories - Marilyn Hougan Associate Planner De Gange asked that this item be withdrawn and presented at a future date. He explained that the appropriate information for review of the sign was not submitted at the printing of the agenda. MOTION BY WILSEY SECONDED BY BARNES AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO WITHDRAW FROM THE AGENDA WINDOW SIGNAGE FOR 120 SOUTH MAIN STREET. BUSINESS LICENSE APPLICATIONS 2. 120 South Main Street (relocation of business from 117-B South Main Street) - Marilyn's Memories - Marilyn Hougan Associate Planner De Gange explained the request is to operate an antique, collectible and gifts store. This application represents a relocation of this business from its current location at 117-B South Main Street, which received DRC approval on November 20, 1996. This use is consistent with the uses allowed in the C-l and c-o zoning districts and is not prohibited by the Historic Elsinore Design Standards. Staff recommends approval with the standard condition prohibiting the sale of thrift store type items. MOVED BY BARNES, SECONDED BY WILSEY AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO APPROVE THE BUSINESS LICENSE FOR MARILYN'S MEMORIES AT 120 SOUTH MAIN STREET WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITION PLACED ON THE BUSINESS LICENSE: Condition No. 1. No used clothing and appliances (large or small), or any other items normally found in a "thrift" store (a prohibited use) shall be permitted to be sold. Any used merchandise which is not an antique shall be of high, collectible quality. PAGE TWO - SPECIAL DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE MEETING - MARCH 5,1997 3. 113 South Main Street - Inland Valley Women's Clinic - Karle Nelson Associate Planner De Gange explained the request is to operate a prenatal medical clinic, providing prenatal medical services and pregnancy testing. This use is to co-locate with the existing Inland Valley Pregnancy Counseling Center, which was approved by the DRC in 1994. This type of operation is consistent with the C-l and c-o zoning districts and is not prohibited by the Historic Elsinore Design Standards. Staff recommends approval with the standard condition regarding signage. Committee Member Barnes asked if this is a medical clinic with doctors and staff. - Associate Planner De Gange responded in the affirmative Committee Member Wilsey commented on the disposal of medical waste (bio-hazard) and records being kept, and suggested a condition be added to address the disposal of this material. MOVED BY WILSEY, SECONDED BY BARNES AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO APPROVE THE BUSINESS LICENSE FOR INLAND VALLEY WOMEN'S CLINIC AT 113 SOUTH MAIN STREET WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS PLACED ON THE BUSINESS LICENSE: Condition No.1. All signage shall be submitted to the Planning Department for the review and approval of the Design Review Committee (ORC), prior to installation. In addition, this signage shall be in compliance with the criteria established within the Historic Elsinore Desigu Standards and shall be submitted to the Planning Department for review and approval by the DRC. Condition No.2: All bio-hazard waste, such as needles, shall be disposed at a hospital or equivalent facility licensed and willing to accept this waste and the operator of the clinic shall keep receipts showing proof of this appropriate disposal. Also, any applicable hazardous material requirements shall be met. - 4. 136 North Main Street - Evelyn's Jewelry & Accessory Store - Luz Evelia Pelayo Associate Planner De Gange explained the request is to operate a jewelry store. This use is consistent with the uses allowed in the C-1 and c-o zoning districts and is not prohibited by the Historic Elsinore Design Standards. Staff recommends approval with the standard condition prohibiting the sale of thrift store type items and the standard condition regarding signage. Chairman Sands asked if they currently have signage. Associate Planner De Gange responded in the negative. Committee Member Wilsey asked if the jewelry to be sold was new, used or a combination and whether there was a potential to veer toward a pawn shop type operation, concern is pawning of jewelry. Associate Planner De Gange stated it is his understanding that the jewelry is new and sees nothing to preclude the sale of used jewelry, and explained that if the use were to change, in terms of becoming a pawn shop, then it would have to come back before the DRC. Committee Member Wilsey suggested - this be noted on the business license. MOVED BY WILSEY, SECONDED BY BARNES AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO APPROVE THE BUSINESS LICENSE FOR EVELYN'S JEWELRY & ACCESSORY STORE AT 136 NORTH MAIN STREET WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITION PLACED ON THE BUSINESS LICENSE AND A NOTATION PLACED ON THE BUSINESS LICENSE THAT SHOULD THE PAGE THREE - SPECIAL DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE MEETING - MARCH 5, 1997 USE CHANGE IT WILL REQUIRE DRC APPROVAL. Condition No.1. No used clothing and appliances (large or small), or any other items normally found in a "thrift" store (a prohibited use) shall be permitted to be sold. Any used merchandise which is not an antique shall be of high, collectible quality. Condition No.2. All signage shall be submitted to the Planning Department for the review and approval of the Design Review Committee (DRC), prior to installation. In addition, this signage shall be in compliance with the criteria established within the Historic Elsinore Design Standards and shall be submitted to the Planning Department for review and approval by the DRC. 5. Signage - 161 South Main Street - Los ComDadres Meat Market - Carolina Casillas. Marleny Merino & Angelina Bayona Associate Planner De Gange explained the request is to install a wall sign. Originally, this submittal came in as a signage package; however, it was determined that the sign proposed for the roof facade was prohibited by Code, so it is not being considered at this time, but staff continues to work with the applicant. The sign proposed will be prefabricated vinyl lettering attached to an existing sign board on the side of the building. The sign reads "Carniceria & Super Mercado" Los Compadres, which translates to "Meat Market and Supermarket" and Los Compadres means "The two Buddies". Colors proposed for the lettering is green and garnet with a white background and a black 6" border. This sign meets the Design Standards with respect to size, lettering style and color, and staff recommends approval. Chairman Sands asked staff to clarify the applicant's original request. Associate Planner De Gange explained the original request was for two signs, one on the wall facing Prospect Street and one on the front canopy above the eave line, which is considered a roof sign. The sign proposed on the front canopy is prohibited by Code and staff is working with the applicant to find a solution which would meet the Code yet provide the visibility needed. So as not to stall the applicant's ability to put signage on their building staff decided to separate and bring the smaller sign forward, and come back with the other sign at a future date. Chairman Sands asked if the color schemes were consistent with standards for the Historic District. Associate Planner De Gange responded in the affirmative. Chairman Sands then recommended that the missing roof tiles be replaced. Committee Member Barnes commented on lighting and asked if the sign was back lit. Associate Planner De Gange responded in the negative. Committee Member Wilsey asked whether a site plan for the sign was submitted. Associate Planner De Gange responded in the negative and explained the sign will be placed in the existing sign frame attached to the building, left comer of the building adjacent to Prospect. Committee Member Wilsey asked if a sign permit and costs would be required for the second sign. Associate Planner De Gange responded in the affirmative and explained the reason a sign permit is not required for the proposed sign is the sign face is already attached to the building and the approval serves as the permit. Committee Member Wilsey then commented on the amount of window space available for signage and asked if this had been discussed with the applicant. Associate Planner De Gange stated this is being discussed with the applicant. MOVED BY WILSEY, SECONDED BY BARNES AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO APPROVE THE WALL SIGN ON THE SIDE OF THE BUILDING FACING PROSPECT STREET FOR LOS COMPADRES AT 161 SOUTH MAIN STREET. STAFF COMMENTS NONE PAGE FOUR - SPECIAL DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE MEETING - MARCH 5,1997 COMMITTEE COMMENTS Committee Member Barnes No comment. Committee Member Wilsey Commented on the following: 1. Costs involved with small businesses having to go through the DRC process and businesses relocating and reapplying for sign permits and business license, what kind of permit fees are involved with these changes? Associate Planner De Gange explained the policy for Planning Area 1 is not to charge fees for permits for signage, and to encourage businesses to comply with the strict Historic Design Standards the policy has been not to charge any permit fees unless working on modification to the building. There is a charge for a business license; however, if relocating and the business license is current believes the business license can be transferred without any additional charge. - 2. Inquired about cost and process for businesses throughout the City, not within the DRC area, with regard to sign permits and business licenses. Associate Planner De Gange explained the process and fee rates for sign permits, building permit and business license for areas outside Planning Area 1. Committee Member Sands Commented on the video store on Mission Trail and asked if a business license for a change in ownership could be fast tracked. Also, there is a small neon sign in the window. Associate Planner De Gange stated it depends on the type of use and explained the business license process and stated a business license can be processed one day and an inspection requested for the next. Committee Member Barnes inquired about the business license fee for a change in ownership. Associate Planner De Gange explained the business license processing/inspection fees and stated this is about $100.00 for the year, but it can be done in six month increments. - Committee Member Schiffner Absent Committee Member Matthies Absent. ADJOURNMENT THE SPECIAL MEETING OF THE DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE ADJOURNED AT 10:26 A.M. MOTION BY COMMITTEE MEMBER WILSEY, SECONDED BY COMMITTEE MEMBER BARNES. Approved ~es ectfully Submitted~ ~ ..--- - ----- --~ da Grind ff #~ Recording Secretary ~ - MINUTES OF LAKE ELSINORE DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE MARCH 5, 1997 THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE LAKE ELSINORE DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE SCHEDULED FOR MARCH 5, 1997, WAS CALLED FOR LACK OF AGENDA ITEMS. Respectfully submitted, ~~~ Linda Grindstaff Recording Secretary - - - MINUTES OF LAKE ELSINORE DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE MARCH 19, 1997 THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE LAKE ELSINORE DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE SCHEDULED FOR MARCH 19, 1997, WAS CALLED FOR LACK OF A QUORUM. Respectfully submitted, ~~~ Linda Grindstaff Recording Secretary - - - MINUTES SPECIAL DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE MEETING WEDNESDAY, MARCH 26,1997 ***************************************************************** The Design Review Committee Meeting was called to order at 8:39 p.m. by Chairman Sands. ROLL CALL PRESENT: COMMITTEE MEMBERS: SANDS, BARNES SCHll'~'NER,MATTHIESAND WILSEY ABSENT: COMMITTEE MEMBERS: NONE Also present were: Also present were: Community Development Director Leslie and Associate Planners De Gange and Villa, and City Engineer O'Donnell. MINUTE ACTION Moved by Committee Member Wilsey, Se~nded by Committee Member Barnes and carried by unanimous vote to approve the Minutes of February 19, 1997, March 5, 1997 and March 19, 1997, as submitted. Moved by Committee Member Wilsey, Seconded by Committee Member Barnes and carried by a vote of 3-0 with Commissioners Schiffner and Matthies abstaining to approve the Minutes of the Special Meeting of March 5, 1997, as submitted. PUBLIC COMMENTS There being no request to speak the PUBLIC COMMENTS Section was closed. AT THIS TIME, ASSOCIATE PLANNER DE GANGE ASKED THE COMMITTEE TO CONSIDER TAKING THE AGENDA ITEMS OUT OF SEQUENCE AND CONSIDER THE BUSINESS LICENSE FOR 114 SOUTH MAIN FIRST. IT WAS THE CONSENSUS OF THE DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE TO CONSIDER THE BUSINESS LICENSE FOR 114 SOUTH MAIN STREET FIRST. BUSINESS LICENSE APPLICATIONS 3. 114 South Main - C & V Floors - Chris & Valerie Matteson Associate Planner De Gange explained the request is for a business license to operate a floor and window covering business. He explained this use is more closely associated with the C-2 Zoning District and Planning Area 1 is within the C-l and C-O Districts. Therefore, the item has been brought before the DRC for consideration. Staff recommends the DRC consider this proposal and determine if this use is compatible and consistent with the uses existing and anticipated in Planning Area 1 of the Historic Overlay District. - Committee Member Barnes commented on the sales and installation components of the business. Committee Member Wilsey asked about storage. Mr. Matteson stated they have operated at Central Avenue for approximately two years and there is no storage facility within this compleL Primarily, we run a decorator service through the show room, and utilize an off-site warehouse with trash disposal available. Mr. Matteson stated he will continue to use the off-site warehouse facility so there will not be an excessive amount of truck traffic and will dispose of trash at the warehouse facility. PAGE TWO~DESfGN REVIEW COMMITTEE MINUTES - MARCH 26, 1997 MOVED BY COMMITTEE MEMBER WILSEY, SECONDED BY COMMITTEE M.EM~ER MATTHIES AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO APPROVE THE BUSINESS LICENSE FOR 114 SOUTH MAIN STREET WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS PLACED ON THE BUSINESS LICENSE: Condition No. 1. The applicant shall provide for adequate waste pick-up service which may include the provision of a separate trash enclosure and dumpster, subject to the determination and approval of the Community Development Director or designee. - Condition No.2. Outdoor storage is prohibited. Condition No.3. All signage shall be su~mitted to the Planning Depar;tment for the review and approval of the Design Review Committee (DRC), prior to installation. In addition, this signage shall be in compliance with the criteria established within the Historic Elsinore Design Standards and shall be submitted to the Planning Department for review and approval by the DRC. DESIGN APPLICATIONS 1. Si2na2e - 120 West Graham Avenue - Aracelv Rincon Associate Planner De Gange explained the request is for three windows signs and an auto-oriented facade sign for Hair N Stuff. Sign 1, is 4.7 square feet and occupies 25% of the window face; Sign 2, is 4.9 square feet and occupies 24% of the window face; Sign 3, is 5.0 square feet window and occupies 27% of the window face, all to be painted with black lettering. Sign 4, is 20.0 square feet (2' by 10') wooden auto- oriented facade sign; to be painted with burnt orange background and black lettering; and to be placed within an indentation in the building's upper facade. The signage proposed meets the Design Standards with respect to size, style of lettering, coloring, and staff recommends approval. - There being no discussion, Chairman Sands called for a motion. MOVED BY COMMITTEE MEMBER MA1THJES, SECONDED BY COMMITTEE MEMBER BARNES AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO APPROVE SIGNAGE AT 120 WEST GRAHAM A VENUE. 2. Temporarv Banner - 183 North Main Street (Lake Elsinore Cultural Center) - The Lamb's Fellowship (Gary Enniss) Associate Planner De Gange explained that Lamb's Fellowship Church is leasing the Cultural Center and asking that they be allowed to display a banner outside the building on a weekly basis during church operations (Sunday only). This issue comes before the DRC because the Design Standards provide for banners; however, the provisions do not meet their needs as the standards stipulate that banners are allowed only four times a year for a duration of30 days. Staff would point out that the location for the banner is of concern, and recommends consideration of the request. - Committee Member Matthies commented on the location for display of the banner, and whether a freestanding post with a base could be utilized. Committee Member Schiffner asked if the banner would be displayed parallel to the building. Associate Planner De Gange stated this would be best. PAGE THREE - DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE MINUTES - MARCH 26, 1997 Committee Member Barnes asked if the banner could be draped from the mansard. Community Development Director Leslie stated this is a possibility, but not sure Community Services would want to encourage tenants to be on the roof. Committee Member Wilsey stated he does not like banners, particularly on a weekly basis and inquired about a more permanent sign and whether there was room for storage. He suggested a sign similar to the one at the museum. Committee Member Barnes suggested a permanent changeable marquee that can be shared, and the cost for the sign shared between the applicant and City. Discussion ensued on signage with regard to the type of sign and the materials that could be used, and that staff work with the applicant on a more permanent type sign. Committee Member Schiffner suggested the Design Review Committee take action on the project and let the applicant and staff work out the details for a more permanent sign. MOVED BY COMMITTEE MEMBER SCHIFFNER, SECONDED BY CO~EMEMBERMATTHmSANDC~DBYUNAmMOUSVOTEOF THOSE PRESENT TO APPROVE A SIGN FOR THE LAMB'S FELLOWSHIP WITH THE APPLICANT AND STAFF TO WORK OUT THE DETAILS FOR A MORE PERMANENT SIGN, KEEPING IN MIND THE COMMENTS MADE THIS EVENING, AND SAID SIGN SUBJECT TO THE APPROVAL OF THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR OR DESIGNEE. STAFF COMMENTS NOTHING TO REPORT. COMMITTEE COMMENTS NOTHING TO REPORT. ADJOURNMENT THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE ADJOURNED AT 9:00 P.M. ~ CZ.A ~ JAMES SANDS, CHAIRMAN Respectfully Submitted, ~dM~~ Recording Secretary - - - MINUTES OF LAKE ELSINORE DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE APRIL 2, 1997 THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE LAKE ELSINORE DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE SCHEDULED FOR APRIL 2, 1997, WAS CALLED FOR LACK OF AGENDA ITEMS. Respectfully submitted, ~~~ Linda Grindstaff Recording Secretary - - - MINUTES OF LAKE ELSINORE DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE APRIL 16, 1997 THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE LAKE ELSINORE DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE SCHEDULED FOR APRIL 16, 1997, WAS CALLED. Respectfully submitted, ~d~~ Recording Secretary - - - MINUTES SPECIAL DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE MEETING WEDNESDAY, APRIL 16, 1997 ***************************************************************** The Design Review Committee Meeting was called to order at 9:05 a.m. by Chairman Sands. The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Committee Member Matthies. ROLL CALL PRESENT: COMMITTEE MEMBERS: MATTHIES, SCHIFFNER, SANDS ABSENT: COMMITTEE MEMBERS: BARNES, WILSEY Also present was Associate Planner Armando Villa. PUBLIC COMMENTS None AT THIS TIME, ASSOCIATE PLANNER VILLA ASKED THE COMMITTEE TO CONSIDER ADDING A BUSINESS LICENSE AND SIGNAGE APPLICATION FOR PALETERIA "LA MICHOACANA" AT 122 W. GRAHAM AVENUE TO THE AGENDA. MOTION BY COMMITTEE MEMBER MATTHIES, SECONDED BY COMMITTEE MEMBER SCHIFFNER AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO ADD THE BUSINESS LICENSE AND SIGNAGE APPLICATION FOR P ALETERIA "LA MICHOACANA" AT 122 W. GRAHAM AVENUE TO THE AGENDA. DESIGN APPLICATIONS 1. Auto-Oriented Facade Sign - 120-1/2 North Main Street - RaIford Hutchins Associate Planner Villa explained the request is to install an 8' x 2' 2" (17.36 square feet) painted wooden auto-oriented facade sign on the upper facade of the building. The color scheme proposed is off-white for the sign face, navy blue vinyl letters and teal colored vinyl material for the border. This sign meets the Design Standards for the Historic Elsinore Overlay District for signage with respect to architecture, style of lettering, color and size, and staff recommends approval. A brief discussion was held on the sign with regard to the verbiage: new, used and software. MOTION BY COMMITTEE MEMBER MATTHIES SECONDED BY COMMITTEE MEMBER SCHIFFNER AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO APPROVE THE AUTO-ORIENTED FACADE SIGN FOR COMPUTER DYNAMICS AT 120-1/2 NORTH MAIN STREET. BUSINESS LICENSE APPLICATIONS 2. 201 North Main Street - Bread of Life Fellowship Associate Planner Villa explained the request is for a business license to operate a church at 201 North Main Street (previously First Trust Bank). The Zoning for Planning Area 1 of the Historic Downtown Overlay District allows uses permitted within the C-l PAGE TWO - SPECIAL DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE MEETING - APRIL 16, 1997 District. The Zoning Ordinance states that churches within C-1 are allowed subject to a conditional use permit, Section 17.44.030.C. Upon review and approval by the Design Review Committee the applicant will be required to apply for a conditional use permit. He stated the issues related to parking and compatibility with surrounding uses will be reviewed during the conditional use permit process, and staff recommends approval. Committee Member Schiffuer asked for clarification on the action to be taken. Associate Planner Villa explained the Historic Elsinore Overlay District requires the DRC to determine _ whether the use would be allowed in Planning Area 1, and approve the business license. Committee Member Schiffner stated he believes the use would be proper for the area. Committee Member Matthies stated concurrence with Committee Member Schiffner, and then inquired about signage. Mr. Saenz stated that signage has been submitted and asked whether the DRC can take action on said signage. Associate Planner Villa stated the signage can be processed with the conditional use permit. MOTION BY COMMITTEE MEMBER SCHIFFNER SECONDED BY COMMITTEE MEMBER MATTHIES AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO APPROVE THE BUSINESS LICENSE FOR BREAD OF LIFE FELLOWSHIP AT 201 NORTH MAIN STREET SUBJECT TO THE FOLLOWING CONDITION OF APPRO V AL: Condition No.1: Applicant shall apply for a conditional use permit. Condition No.2: All signage shall be submitted to the Planning Department for the review and approval of the Design Review Committee (DRC), prior to installation. In addition, this signage shall be in compliance with the criteria established within the Historic Elsinore Design Standards and shall be submitted to the Planning Department for review and approval by the DRC. - 3. Business License and Signage for Paleteria "La Michoacana" at 122 W. Graham Avenue Associate Planner Villa explained the request is for a business license to operate a fruit popsicle store (prepackaged popsicles and snacks), and a wooden auto oriented facade sign, ten foot by two foot. The sign is to be painted with antique white background and burgundy and black lettering, and will be placed within an indentation in the building's upper facade designed for signage. This sign meets the Design Standards of the Historic Elsinore Overlay District for signage with respect to architecture, style of lettering, color and size, and staff recommends approval. Committee Member Matthies asked whether the business would occupy both units of the building. Associate Planner Villa explained the business would only occupy one unit. Committee Member Matthies asked if they would be limited to the sale of popsicles and snacks, no alcoholic beverages. Associate Planner Villa responded in the affirmative. MOTION BY COMMITTEE MEMBER MATTHIES SECONDED BY COMMITTEE MEMBER SCHIFFNER AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO APPROVE THE BUSINESS LICENSE AND SIGNAGE FOR P ALETERIA - "LA MICHOACANA" AT 122 WEST GRAHAM AVENUE. STAFF COMMENTS NONE PAGE THREE - SPECIAL DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE MEETING - APRIL 16, 1997 COMMITTEE COMMENTS Committee Member Schiffner Asked staff about the sign at the corner of Graham, Arco station. Associate Planner Villa explained this sign is out of Planning Area 1 and was approved by the Community Development Director. Committee Member Matthies No comment. Committee Member Sands No comment. Committee Member Barnes Absent Committee Member Wilsey Absent ADJOURNMENT THE SPECIAL MEETING OF THE DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE ADJOURNED AT 9:20 A.M. MOTION BY COMMITTEE MEMBER SCHIFFNER, SECONDED BY COMMITTEE MEMBER MATTHIES. Approved ffo-rr<.2-0 a. fLA/YlA"W James Sands, ChaIrman Respectfully Submitted, 1!:i:d~ Recording Secretary - - - MINUTES DESIGN REVIEW COMMITfEE MEETING WEDNESDAY, MAY 7, 1997 ***************************************************************** The Design Review Committee Meeting was called to order at 7:05 p.m. by Chairman Sands. ROLL CALL PRESENT: COMMITfEE MEMBERS: SANDS, SCHUfji'NER AND WILSEY ABSENT: COMMITfEE MEMBERS: BARNES AND MATflDES Also present were: Community Development Director Leslie and Associate Planner Villa. PUBLIC COMMENTS There being no request to speak the PUBLIC COMMENTS Section was closed. CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS Moved by Committee Member Schiffner, Seconded by Committee Member WIlsey and carried by a vote of 3-0 with Committee Members Bames and Matthies absent to approve the Consent Calendar as presented. 1. The following Minutes were approved. a. Design Review Committee Special Meeting - March 26, 1997 b. Design Review Committee Regular Meeting - April 02, 1997 c. Design Review Committee Regular Meeting - April 16, 1997 d. Design Review Committee Special Meeting - April 16, 1997 2. Concurred with Commission Action to Approve Conditional Use Permit 97-4 - to allow Bread of Life Fellowship Church to operate religious operations at 201 North Main Street. DESIGN APPLICATIONS 3. Si(!ll32e - 201 North Main Street - Bread of Life Fellowship (Philip Saenz) Associate Planner VIlla explained the request is for a change of face for two signs including a freestanding pole sign and a primary wall sign to read "Bread of Life Fellowship Apostolic Assembly" at 201 North Main Street. Both signs are considered legal non-conforming. The proposal for the freestanding pole sign entails the replacement of 3' x 8' oval panels, approximately 24 square feet. The proposal for the existing wall sign entails replacement of a single 3' x 8', 24 square feet, oval panel encased within an existing sign can. All sign panels will have a teal green background with white lettering and black borders. Staff recommends the DRC consider the applicant's request. Committee Member WIlsey stated he has no problem with the signs as submitted. He then stated that findings have been made in the past when signs are in need of repair and believes the same findings and recommendation can be made. Committee Member Schiffner stated that he had no objection to the signs and believes any repairs will be made. Chairman Sands stated concurrence with the statements made. PAGE TWO - DESIGN REVIEW COMMITrEE MINUTES - MAY 7, 1997 MOVED BY COMMITrEE MEMBER WILSEY, SECONDED BY COMMITrEE MEMBER SCHIJI'J4'NER AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF mOSE PRESENT TO APPROVE mE SIGN AGE FOR BREAD OF LIFE FELLOWSHIP CHURCH AT 201 NORm MAIN STREET. BUSINESS UCENSE APPLICADONS 4. 133 North Main Street - Collector's Corral - Donna Lucas/Wanda Moore Associate Planner Villa explained the request is for a business license to operate an antique, collectible, gifts, and consignment clothing store at 133 North Main Street. This use is consistent with the uses allowed in the C-l and C-O zoning districts and is not prohibited by the Historic Elsinore Design Standards. Staff recommends approval of the business license with consideration on the consignment clothing sale. - Ms. Lucas defined consignment clothing and stated "gently used clothing" is a better definition. Ms. Lucas showed examples of the consignment merchandise and stated that everything is clean and fresh, and will make it look like a boutique. Ms. Lucas then stated that with permission from the City they would like to do this and it could be reviewed in six-months or a year and if not satisfied they would disable that portion of the business. Committee Member Wilsey expressed concern with this use and stated this type of use or uses similar have been discouraged in the downtown area. Concerned with setting a precedence for used clothing stores in the downtown area. Asked how to difl'erentiate between up scale used clothing and regular used clothing. Committee Member Schiffner stated he has the same concerns as Committee Member WIlsey. Although, the proposal may be a fine operation, the Committee would have to set criteria that we do not have. Ms. Moore, 3494 Bluff Street, Norco, stated the store would be set up in the same manner as a department store and that everything would be clean and fresh. Ms. Moore then explained the type of merchandise intended for sale. - Chairman Sands asked if a condition could not be added to alleviate concerns. Committee Member Wilsey asked if there were not criteria in the Design Standards that prohibited this type of use. Community Development Director Leslie responded in the negative and explained the Standards simply state thrift stores are not a permitted use downtown, and provided an explanation of thrift store merchandise. Community Development Director Leslie stated the standard condition placed on all antique stores stipulates that no used clothing is permitted to be sold. Community Development Director Leslie suggested it be called boutique resale designer label clothing and that it has to be displayed in a retail clothing outlet manner, not a manner common to a thrift store, and it has to be done in conjunction with an antique and collectible store. Discussion ensued on the consignment clothing aspect and each item having a dry_ cleaning tag, having a minimum price, and pursuing the boutique line. Community Development Director Leslie suggested the following condition: The sale of consignment clothing as proposed must be of a quality that is considered boutique designer label style and no items less than five dollars. All items to be cleaned and fresh and displayed in a retail boutique atmosphere and not in a thrift store atmosphere and must be done in conjunction with the sale of period collectible type clothing and antique and collectible items in general. The use will be subject to review in six-months time and if found to not be operated in the manner that was the intent of the Design Review Committee all used clothing other than period style clothing will have to be removed and returned to the consignor within three-months time. - PAGE THREE - DESIGN REVIEW COMMITfEE MINUTES - MAY 7, 1997 Discussion ensued on the consignment aspect and the standard condition pertaining to store merchandise, whether the proposed condition should replace the standard condition and the standard condition remaining. MOVED BY COMMITfEE MEMBER WILSEY, SECONDED BY COMMITfEE MEMBER SCHD'J4'NER AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO APPROVE THE BUSINESS LICENSE FOR COLLECTOR'S CORAL AT 133 NORTH MAIN STREET WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDmONS PLACED ON THE BUSINESS LICENSE: Condition No.1: No used clothing and appliances (large or small), or any other items normally found in a "thrift" store (a prohibited use) shall be permitted to be sold. Any used merchandise which is not an antique shall be of high, collectible quality. Condition No.2: Any signage proposed by the applicant shall be submitted to the Planning Department for the review and approval of the Design Review Committee (DRC), prior to installation. In addition, this signage shall be in compliance with the criteria established within the ffistoric Elsinore Design Standards and shall be consistent with the signage approved for the other units within the building. Condition No.3: The sale of consignment clothing as proposed must be of a quality that is considered boutique designer label style and no items less than five dollars. All items to be cleaned and fresh and displayed in a retail boutique atmosphere and not in a thrift store atmosphere and must be done in conjunction with the sale of period collectible type clothing and antique and collectible items in general. The use will be subject to review in six-months time and if found to not be operated in the manner that was the intent of the Design Review Committee all used clothing other than period style clothing will have to be removed and returned to the consignor within three-months time. 5. 106 North Main Street - Macarena Imports - Mabel Prats Associate Planner Villa explained the request is for a business license to operate a home crafted outdoor or patio accessories store at 106 North Main Street. This use is consistent with the uses allowed in the C-l and C-O zoning districts and is not prohibited by the ffistoric Elsinore Design Standards. Staff recommends approval. A brief discussion was held on the home crafted outdoor patio accessories. MOVED BY COMMITfEE MEMBER WILSEY, SECONDED BY COMMITfEE MEMBER SCHIFFNER AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO APPROVE THE BUSINESS LICENSE FOR MACARENA IMPORTS AT 106 NORTH MAIN STREET WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDmONS PLACED ON THE BUSINESS LICENSE: Condition No.1: No used clothing and appliances (large or small), or any other items normally found in a "thrift" store (a prohibited use) shall be permitted to be sold. Any used merchandise which is not an antique shall be of high, collectible quality. Condition No.2: Any signage proposed by the applicant shall be submitted to the Planning Department for the review and approval of the Design Review Committee (DRC), prior to installation. In addition, this signage shall be in compliance with the criteria established within the ffistoric Elsinore Design Standards and shall be consistent with the signage approved for the other units within the building. PAGE FOUR - DESIGN REVIEW COMMlTfEE MINUTES - MAY 7, 1997 STAFF COMMENTS NOTIDNG TO REPORT. COMMlTfEE COMMENTS NOTHING TO REPORT. - ADJOURNMENT THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE DESIGN REVIEW COMMlTfEE ADJOURNED AT 7:36 P.M. ~~a.~~ JAMES SANDS, CHAIRMAN Respectfully Submitted, ~~~ Recording Secretary - - MINUTES DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE MEETING WEDNESDAY, MAY 21, 1997 ***************************************************************** The Design Review Committee Meeting was called to order at 7:39 p.m. by Chairman Sands. ROLL CALL PRESENT: COMMITTEE MEMBERS: SANDS, BARNES, SCHIFFNER, AND WILSEY ABSENT: COMMITTEE MEMBERS: MA TTHIES Also present were: Community Development Director Leslie, Associate Planner Villa and City Engineer O'Donnell. PUBLIC COMMENTS There being no request to speak the PUBLIC COMMENTS Section was closed. CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS Moved by Committee Member Wilsey, Seconded by Committee Member Schiffner and carried by a vote of 3-0 with Committee Member Barnes abstaining and Committee Member Matthies absent to approve the Consent Calendar as presented. 1. The following Minutes were approved. a. Design Review Committee Regular Meeting - May 7, 1997 DESIGN APPLICATIONS 2. Signage - 133 North Main Street - Collector's Corral - Donna Lucas Associate Planner Villa explained the request is to install a 16 x 4 (64 square feet) auto oriented facade sign that will be attached to an existing front wood canopy overhang. The sign will be constructed of Styrofoam board coated with urethane and painted using a combination of muted colors. The sign will have a rounded foam molding as a border and painted light off-whitefbrown. The lettering will be foam 3-D popouts painted using a combination of black and light brown. The graphic display will be handpainted with a tree, a barn house, a wind mill and a corral. This sign meets the Design Standards for the Historic Elsinore Overlay District with respect to size, style of lettering, colors and architecture, and staff recommends approval. Ms. Donna Lucas stated she believes the sign will be an enhancement to the community and the street. A brief discussion was held on the proposed sign. MOVED BY COMMITTEE MEMBER SCHIFFNER, SECONDED BY COMMITTEE MEMBER BARNES AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO APPROVE THE SIGNAGE FOR COLLECTOR'S CORRAL AT 133 NORTH MAIN STREET AS PRESENTED. 3. Signage - 106 North Main Street - Macarena Imports - Mabel Prats Associate Planner Villa explained the request is to place a window sign manufactured of foam and hung from the window. The sign measure approximately 8.37 square feet and will occupy approximately 21 % of the window face. The sign consist of black letters with a golden outline and will have a hand-painted design of a woman crossing her PAGE TWO - DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE MINUTES - MAY 21, 1997 hands. The sign will have a decorative olivefburgundy border. This sign meets the Design Standards for the Historic Elsinore Overlay District with respect to size (including the percentage of window allowed to covered by signage), style of lettering and coloring, and staff recommends approval. A brief discussion was held on the colors to be utilized for the sign and the use. MOVED BY COMMITTEE MEMBER WILSEY, SECONDED BY COMMITTEE MEMBER SCHIFFNER AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO APPROVE THE SIGN AGE FOR MACARENA IMPORTS AT 106 NORTH MAIN STREET. - 4. Signage - 117-B South Main Street - Marilyn's Memories - Marilyn Hougan Associate Planner Villa explained that insufficient information was submitted with the application and staff contacted the applicant; however, the applicant failed to return staffs telephone calls. Staff prepared an exhibit that illustrated the applicant's idea for the sign and would meet the Design Standards. The sign measure approximately 11 square feet and will occupy approximately 24 % of the window face on the wall sign and 3 square feet on the door sign. The sign consists of white letters with black outlining. This sign meets the Design Standards for the Historic Elsinore Overlay District with respect to size, style of lettering, colors and architecture, and staff recommends approval. A brief discussion was held on the colors to be utilized for the sign. MOVED BY COMMITTEE MEMBER BARNES, SECONDED BY COMMITTEE MEMBER SCHIFFNER AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO APPROVE THE SIGNAGE FOR MARILYN'S MEMORIES AT 117- B SOUTH MAIN STREET. - BUSINESS LICENSE APPLICATIONS 5. Business License (Relocation) 117-B South Main Street - Marilyn's Memories - Marilyn Hougan Associate Planner Villa explained the request is for a business license to operate an antique and collectable store at 117-B South Main Street. This business was previously approved by the DRC to locate at 117-B South Main Street and later at 120 North Main Street. The applicant now wishes to return to the previous location. This use is consistent with the uses allowed in the C-l and C-O zoning districts and is not prohibited by the Historic Elsinore Design Standards, and staff recommends approval. A brief discussion was held on the condition pertaining to signage, and whether a new business license and fee is required or if the business license and fee is transferred. MOVED BY COMMITTEE MEMBER SCHIFFNER, SECONDED BY COMMITTEE MEMBER BARNES AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO APPROVE THE BUSINESS LICENSE FOR MARILYN'S MEMORIES AT 117-B SOUTH MAIN STREET WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS PLACED ON THE BUSINESS LICENSE. Condition No.1: No used clothing and appliances (large or small), or any other items normally found in a "thrift" store (a prohibited use) shall be permitted to be sold. Any used merchandise which is not an antique shall be of high, collectible quality. - Condition No.2: Any signage proposed by the applicant shall be submitted to the Planning Department for the review and approval of the Design Review Committee (DRC), prior to installation. In addition, this signage shall be in compliance with the criteria established within the Historic Elsinore Design Standards. PAGE THREE - DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE MINUTES - MAY 21,1997 6. 124 West Graham Avenue - Mos Video No.2 - Marcelino Osorio Sotelo Associate Planner Villa explained the request is for a business license to operate a video rentals store at 124 West Graham Avenue. The proposal is within Planning Area 1 of the Historic Elsinore Overlay District and the Neighborhood Commercial District. The Neighborhood Commercial District allows uses within the C-1 and c-o Zoning. The C-1 Zoning allows video rental outright, and the proposed use is not in conflict with the Historic Elsinore Design Standards, and staff recommends approval. Chairman Sands asked if tenant improvements are under construction. Associate Planner Villa stated shelves to hold the videos are being constructed. Community Development Director Leslie explained that business license approval is not needed for tenant improvements and a permit can be issued for these improvements; however, it is done at their own risk. Chairman Sands suggested that adult videos be separated since it is not known what videos will be offered to the public for rental. Community Development Director Leslie stated that pursuant to the Adult Business Ordinance the applicant cannot have adult videos because they are in a zoning district that prohibits this. MOVED BY COMMITTEE MEMBER BARNES, SECONDED BY COMMITTEE MEMBER WILSEY AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO APPROVE THE BUSINESS LICENSE FOR MOS VIDEO NO.2 AT 124 WEST GRAHAM AVENUE WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITION PLACED ON THE BUSINESS LICENSE: Condition No.1: Any signage proposed by the applicant shall be submitted to the Planning Department for the review and approval of the Design Review Committee (DRC), prior to installation. In addition, this signage shall be in compliance with the criteria established within the Historic Elsinore Design Standards. STAFF COMMENTS NOTHING TO REPORT. COMMITTEE COMMENTS NOTHING TO REPORT. ADJOURNMENT THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE ADJOURNED AT 8:00 P.M. ~~~~ Respectfully Submitted, ~~ Lmda Grindstaff If/tI Recording Secretary - - MINUTES OF LAKE ELSINORE DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE JUNE 4, 1997 THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE LAKE ELSINORE DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE SCHEDULED FOR JUNE 4,1997, WAS CALLED FOR LACK OF A QUORUM. Respectfully submitted, ~~~ Linda Grindstaff Recording Secretary - - MINUTES DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE MEETING WEDNESDAY, JUNE 18,1997 ***************************************************************** The Design Review Committee Meeting was called to order at 8:55 p.m. by Chairman Sands. ROLL CALL PRESENT: COMMITTEE MEMBERS: SANDS, BARNES, SCHIFFNER, MATTHIES, AND WILSEY ABSENT: COMMITTEE MEMBERS: NONE Also present were: Community Development Director Leslie, Associate Planner Villa and City Engineer O'Donnell. PUBLIC COMMENTS There being no request to speak the PUBLIC COMMENTS Section was closed. CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS Moved by Committee Member Barnes, Seconded by Committee Member Wilsey and carried by a vote of 4-0 with Committee Member Matthies abstaining to approve the Consent Calendar as presented. 1. The following Minutes were approved. a. Design Review Committee Regular Meeting - May 21, 1997 b. Design Review Committee Regular Meeting - June 4, 1997 DESIGN APPLICATIONS NONE BUSINESS LICENSE APPLICATIONS 2. Business License Application - 158 N. Main Street - Antiques -n- Beyond Associate Planner Villa explained the request is for a business license to operate an antique and collectible shop at 158 N. Main Street in Planning Area 1 of the Historic Elsinore Overlay District. This use is consistent with the uses allowed in the C-l and C- O zoning districts and is not prohibited by the Historic Elsinore Design Standards, and staff recommends approval. A brief discussion was held on signage. MOVED BY COMMITTEE MEMBER WILSEY, SECONDED BY COMMITTEE MEMBER BARNES AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO APPROVE THE BUSINESS LICENSE FOR ANTIQUES-N- BEYOND AT 158 NORTH MAIN STREET WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS PLACED ON THE BUSINESS LICENSE. Condition No.1: No used clothing and appliances (large or small), or any other items normally found in a "thrift" store (a prohibited use) shall be permitted to be sold. Any used merchandise which is not an antique shall be of high, collectible quality. PAGE TWO - DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE MINUTES _ JUNE 18, 1997 Condition No.2: Any signage proposed by the applicant shall be submitted to the Planning Department for the review and approval of the Design Review Committee (DRC), prior to installation. In addition, this signage shall be in compliance with the criteria established within the Historic Elsinore Design Standards. STAFF COMMENTS NOTHING TO REPORT. - COMMITTEE COMMENTS NOTHING TO REPORT. ADJOURNMENT THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE ADJOURNED AT 8:59 P.M. -~kdY_ (/ JAMES SANDS, CHAIRMAN Respectfully Submitted, ~~~ Recording Secretary - - MINUTES OF LAKE ELSINORE DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE JULY 2, 1997 THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE LAKE ELSINORE DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE SCHEDULED FOR JULY 2, 1997, WAS CALLED FOR LACK OF A QUORUM. Respectfully submitted, ~~~ Linda Grindstaff Recording Secretary - - MINUTES DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE MEETING WEDNESDAY, JULY 16, 1997 ***************************************************************** The Design Review Committee Meeting was called to order at 7:38 p.m. by Chairman Sands. ROLL CALL PRESENT: COMMITTEE MEMBERS: SANDS, BARNES, SCHIFFNER, AND MA TTHIES ABSENT: COMMITTEE MEMBERS: WILSEY Also present were: Community Development Director Leslie, Associate Planner Villa and City Engineer O'Donnell. PUBLIC COMMENTS There being no request to speak the PUBLIC COMMENTS Section was closed. CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS Moved by Committee Member Schiffner, Seconded by Committee Member Matthies and carried by unanimous vote of those present to approve the Consent Calendar as presented. 1. The following Minutes were approved. a. Design Review Committee Regular Meeting - June 18, 1997 b. Design Review Committee Regular Meeting - July 2, 1997 DESIGN APPLICATIONS It was the consensus of the DRC to consider the Business License and Signage for Living Waters Bible Center at 137 North Main Street concurrently. Business License and Signage - 137 North Main Street - Living Waters Bible Center - Pastor Bert Hakansson Associate Planner Villa explained the request is for a business license to operate a non- denomination school for ministers, and for the placement of an auto-oriented facade sign at 137 North Main Street. He explained that the site is within Planning Area 1 of the Historic Elsinore Overlay District which allows uses found as permitted in the C-l or C-O Districts; however, the proposed school is not specifically listed as permitted within the C-l or C-O District. However, based on the submitted letter its (the school) operational characteristics are similar to permitted uses found in the C-l and c-o such as schools, studios for arts, crafts, photography, music and dance. He further explained the request entails the placement of a 32" x 16' (42.66 square feet), painted wooden auto-oriented facade sign on the upper facade of the building, and based on the Design Standards the applicant is entitled to 39 square feet of signage and the proposed sign exceeds the maximum allowed by 3.66 square feet. Staff recommends the DRC consider deeming this use compatible and similar to uses allowed in the C-l Zone, with a condition added that the use shall not conduct church related services, and if the use is deemed compatible approve the proposed auto-oriented facade sign subject to the applicant reducing the sign by 3.66 square feet in area. Chairman Sands asked if there was anyone present wishing to speak on the matter. Ms. Mary Kirk, Coldwell Banker, representing the principals in the acquisition of the property at 137 North Main Street, stated that one of the things everyone is looking forward to is the growth and development of the Main Street area. She commented on the guidelines having gone PAGE TWO - DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE MINUTES - mLY 16, 1997 toward antique stores although there have been several other uses permitted. She commented on the uses permitted in the C-l designation and stated it would not appear that this type of organization is contrary to those uses. Ms. Kirk stated the principals are present this evening and will answer any questions that arise. She stated that this is a non-denomination school made up of several different churches in the area, training and education of eventual ordination of ministers, and that there will be approximately 20 students and the school offers both classroom facilities and correspondence courses that will not impact the traffic pattern. Ms. Kirk then introduced Pastor Hakansson. - Pastor Hakansson stated that previously they had a school for ministers in the Canary Islands. He explained that the school is a non-profit organization and that two classes and correspondence courses are planned. The main course will be held Thursday evening, a youth leading training course is planned, and everyone attending the class will practice their preaching Sunday mornings. Committee Member Matthies stated the proposed sign exceeds the maximum allowed space and asked the applicant if they had been informed of this. Pastor Hakansson responded in the negative and explained that the measurements were taken from the existing sign, but will reduce the sign to conform. Committee Member Matthies asked if this sign would be grandfathered in. Community Development Director Leslie responded in the negative and explained that with the change to the sign face it must be brought into conformance. Committee Member Matthies asked how the school was financially supported. Pastor Hakansson stated they receive donations, but donations mostly from the students. Committee Member Schiffner stated that he had no problem with the use as long as it is not prohibited, and would like to see it come in. Committee Member Barnes asked about the hours of operation. Pastor Hakansson stated the hours of operation are 9:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m., to receive applications and answer questions, classes would be conducted from 7:00-9:00 p.m., and 10:00 a.m. to 12:30 p.m. Sunday morning. Committee Member Barnes asked if this was seven days a week. Pastor Hakansson stated that it would be four days a week, Monday, Tuesday, Thursday and Sunday, but this could change depending on the need. Committee Member Barnes asked if parking would be on Main Street. Associate Planner Villa stated the City lot on Peck Street behind the building would be utilized for parking. - MOVED BY COMMITTEE MEMBER MATTHIES, SECONDED BY COMMITTEE MEMBER SCHIFFNER AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO DEEM TillS USE COMPATIBLE AND SIMILAR TO USES ALLOWED IN THE C-l OR C-O ZONING DISTRICTS AND APPROVE THE BUSINESS LICENSE FOR LIVING WATERS BIBLE CENTER AT 137 NORTH MAIN STREET WITH THE CONDITION THAT CHURCH SERVICES SHALL NOT BE ALLOWED AND THE USE AS APPROVED SHALL BE CONDUCTED IN STRICT ADHERENCE TO THE LETTER FROM THE APPLICANT DATED JULY 7,1997, AND APPROVE THE PROPOSED AUTO-ORIENTED FACADE SIGN FOR LIVING WATERS BIBLE CENTER SUBJECT TO THE APPLICANT REDUCING THE SIGN BY 3.66 SQUARE FEET IN AREA. BUSINESS LICENSE APPLICATIONS Business License Application - 137 North Main Street - Living Waters Bible Center - Pastor Bert Hakansson - Considered concurrently with the Signage for Living Waters Bible Center. STAFF COMMENTS NOTHING TO REPORT. COMMITTEE COMMENTS NOTHING TO REPORT. PAGE THREE - DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE MINUTES - JULY 16, 1997 ADJOURNMENT THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE ADJOURNED AT 7:54 P.M. ~~~~ Respectfully Submitted, ~~r- Recording Secretary - - MINUTES OF LAKE ELSINORE DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE AUGUST 6, 1997 THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE LAKE ELSINORE DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE SCHEDULED FOR AUGUST 6, 1997, WAS CALLED FOR LACK OF AGENDA ITEMS. Respectfully submitted, F~~ Linda Grindstaff Recording Secretary - - - MINUTES DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE MEETING WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 20, 1997 ***************************************************************** The Design Review Committee Meeting was called to order at 7:07 p.m. by Chairman Sands. ROLL CALL PRESENT: COMMITTEE MEMBERS: SANDS, BARNES, SCHIFFNER, MATTHIES AND WILSEY ABSENT: COMMITTEE MEMBERS: NONE Also present were: Community Development Director Leslie and Associate Planner Villa. PUBLIC COMMENTS There being no request to speak the PUBLIC COMMENTS Section was closed. CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS Moved by Committee Member Matthies, Seconded by Committee Member Barnes and carried by a vote of 4-0 with Committee Member Wilsey abstaining to approve the Consent Calendar as presented. 1. The following Minutes were approved. a. Design Review Committee Regular Meeting - July 16, 1997 b. Design Review Committee Regular Meeting - August 6, 1997 DESIGN APPLICATIONS 2. Outdoor Seating and Live Entertainment at 141 North Main Street - Frank and Alice Jackson (Chuckles Java Junction) Associate Planner Villa explained the request is for outdoor seating and indoor/outdoor live entertainment at 141 North Main Street. The outdoor seating entails placement of portable tables and chairs (5 small tables with chairs and 3 larger tables with chairs) along the frontage of the building and adjacent to the planter area in the public right-of- way. The live entertainment entails 1 to 3 performers using electrical and amplified musical instruments on a regular basis. He explained the Zoning Code allows live entertainment in the C-2 Zone subject to a Conditional Use Permit and in the C-P Zone when associated with a hotel/motel. Staff request the DRC consider the request and if the DRC considers these requests appropriate for the Downtown area, staff recommends approval subject to Exhibit "B" and the six conditions contained in the report. Chairman Sands noted the letter received from Mr. & Mrs. Frame, 118 Heald Avenue, expressing concern on the noise associated with live music provided by Chuckles Java Junction. Chairman Sands asked Mr. Jackson if he had received a copy of the letter. Mr. Jackson responded in the affirmative. Chairman Sands asked Mr. Jackson if he would like to provide some insight on his request. Mr. Jackson stated that he was in agreement with the letter received from Mr. & Mrs. Frame regarding the noise and this has been included in the requirements not to exceed 60 decibels. Mr. Jackson stated their objective is to keep the music down to a listening level, and this will be controlled. Mr. Jackson commented on the number of people brought into the Downtown area by the music and they are walking the streets looking into the stores and wanting to buy; however, the stores won't stay open. Mr. Jackson stated that staying open is a stay-over from the past and the shop owners don't won't to be there after dark and trying to show people that it is safe. PAGE TWO - DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE MINUTES - AUGUST 20, 1997 Committee Member Barnes asked if this would be seven days a week year-round. Mr. Jackson stated that it would be Friday, Saturday and Sunday, year-round. Mr. Jackson stated that some of the entertainers will not perform outside because of fear factors, but never had any difficulty. Committee Member Barnes inquired about the hours of operation. Mr. Jackson stated the hours on Friday and Saturday are from 7:00 p.m. to 10:00 p.m. and Sunday from 4:00 p.m. to 10:00 p.m. Committee Member Wilsey commented on the dimensions of the comer area, Exhibit "B". Associate Planner Villa explained that Exhibit "B" illustrates the seating area that staff would recommend and allows proper pedestrian traffic on Main Street and Peck Street. Committee Member Wilsey asked Mr. Jackson if he had seen Exhibit "B" and - whether he had any comments. Mr. Jackson stated that he had seen Exhibit "B" and that it is fine. Committee Member Wilsey referred to the letter of complaint and inquired about the use of acoustics rather than amplification. Mr. Jackson stated that they tried this, but the traffic on the street was so loud that it over powered the singers. Mr. Jackson stated that he has informed all of the performers that if they do not abide by the requirements they are out and will get people who will. Committee Member Barnes asked Mr. Jackson if he realized that he would be responsible for crowd control. Mr. Jackson responded in the affirmative. Committee Member Wilsey stated that carriage rides would go great with this type use and liven up the Downtown area and change the element. He stated the City could not financially assist, but maybe the Downtown Business Association would want to help and get some night tourism going. Mr. Jackson stated this is a favorable idea and would check it out. Mr. Jackson stated that they do carry insurance and the City is named as additional insured. Committee Member Schiffner asked when security has to be provided, referring to the number of people and type of event. Mr. Jackson stated that it is moved inside when it gets too crowded. Community Development Director Leslie stated that at this point, the only thing governing the crowds are: 1) capacity of the building; and 2) the outdoor area _ is limited to the number of seats provided. Committee Member Matthies stated that all of her questions have been answered and has no problem as long as the applicant is in agreement with the conditions. Chairman Sands stated that he had no problem with the concept, but concerned with the complaint on noise. Chairman Sands stated that he was on Main Street today and received two favorable comments on the music from other merchants. MOVED BY COMMITTEE MEMBER WILSEY, SECONDED BY COMMITTEE MEMBER MATTHIES TO APPROVE THE OUTDOOR SEATING AND LIVE ENTERTAINMENT AT 141 NORTH MAIN STREET SUBJECT TO EXHIBIT "B" AND 6 CONDITIONS OF APPROV AL. Condition 1: The applicant shall comply with the general seating areas sketched on Exhibit "B". a. Outdoor seating shall not extend further than 3 feet from the furthest projection of the face of the subject building. b. Outdoor seating areas shall not impede on pedestrian circulation on both Main Street and Peck Street. - Condition 2: Public benches shall remain open and available to the general public at all times. Condition 3: The applicant shall execute an indemnity agreement releasing the City of Lake Elsinore from any liability. PAGE THREE - DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE MINUTES - AUGUST 20,1997 Condition 4: The applicant shall maintain the general seating areas clean from any trash, debris, and stains on the pavement at all times. Condition 5: All entertainment held in conjunction with the business shall abide by the applicable restrictions set forth in Chapter 17.78 (Noise Control) of the Lake Elsinore Municipal Code. Condition 6: The applicant shall sign and complete an "Acknowledgment of Conditions" and shall return the executed original to the Community Development Department for inclusion in the case records. Committee Member Barnes asked Mr. Jackson if the entertainers were paid by him, whether they solicit or pay for play. Mr. Jackson stated that he pays the entertainers and pays them all the same so there is no favoritism or solicitation to get more money, and they get advertisement--write up in the newspapers. THE FOREGOING MOTION CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT. Community Development Director Leslie informed Mr. Jackson that there is a ten-day appeal period, and has received no indication that anyone will file an appeal. Also, an indemnity agreement will need to be executed as required by condition number 3, and the Engineering Department has examples. AT THIS TIME, ASSOCIATE PLANNER VILLA ASKED THE COMMITTEE TO CONSIDER ADDING TO THE AGENDA A SIGNAGE APPLICATION FOR DISCOUNT VIDEO AT 124 WEST GRAHAM AVENUE. MOVED BY COMMITTEE MEMBER WILSEY, SECONDED BY COMMITTEE MEMBER SCHIFFNER AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO ADD THE SIGNAGE APPLICATION FOR DISCOUNT VIDEO AT 124 WEST GRAHAM AVENUE TO THE AGENDA. 3. Sign for Discount Video - 124 West Graham - Robert Ferry Associate Planner Villa explained the request is for a change of face for an existing (double faced) projecting sign on the upper facade of the building, as required by Condition #1 of DRC approval on May 21, 1997 for a Video Store. The Standards state that Projecting Signs are recommended where it is not possible to use a freestanding sign and that the sign area not exceed 10 square feet. The proposed sign is 20 square feet. The Committee is asked to consider allowing this non-conforming sign. Committee Member Wilsey stated that with the exception of square footage the sign is in compliance, correct? Community Development Director Leslie stated that all other aspects of the sign meets the Standards. Chairman Sands asked whether a variance of ten-feet was being asked for. Committee Member Barnes stated it is his understanding that the sign is existing and modifying the sign face. Community Development Director Leslie stated there is a provision in the Code that states with a change in sign face the sign can be made to be brought into conformance. Committee Member Schiffner inquired about the ten-foot limitation. Community Development Director Leslie stated that when the Standards were prepared various downtowns were visited and signs looked at and ten-foot came out as a common size. MOTION BY COMMITTEE MEMBER MATTHIES, SECONDED BY COMMITTEE MEMBER SCHIFFNER AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO APPROVE THE PROJECTING SIGN FOR DISCOUNT VIDEO AT 124 WEST GRAHAM AVENUE. PAGE FOUR - DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE MINUTES - AUGUST 20 1997 , BUSINESS LICENSE APPLICATIONS 3. 112 North Main Street - Joe's T.V. - Joe Zahabi Associate Planner Villa explained the request is for a business license to operate a television repair shop at 112 North Main Street. Previously, a T.V. repair shop was next door. Staff has made a finding that the use is consistent with the service establishment use that includes appliance repair. Staff recommends approval subject to the conditions contained in the report. Committee Member Matthies asked if the applicant was aware that the sale of new/used - appliance was prohibited. Associate Planner Villa responded in the affirmative. Discussion ensued on whether unclaimed appliances could be sold or whether this would be prohibited. Committee Member Schiffner stated that he would not have any objection with an occasional sale happening, but since the Standards have such a restriction would not want the applicant to get into trouble. Community Development Director Leslie stated that if the applicant was bringing in used or new appliances for the specific purpose of resale then there would be a problem, but does not believe the occasional sale of unclaimed appliances would be a problem. MOTION BY COMMITTEE MEMBER MATTHIES, SECONDED BY COMMITTEE MEMBER BARNES AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO APPROVE THE BUSINESS LICENSE FOR JOE'S TELEVISION REPAIR AT 112 NORTH MAIN STREET SUBJECT TO THE FOLLOWING 2 CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL. Condition 1: No appliance sales (new or used) will be allowed in compliance with the Design Standards. - Condition 2: Any signage shall be submitted to the Planning Department for the review and approval of the Design Review Committee (DRC), prior to installation. In addition, this signage shall be in compliance with the criteria established within the Historic Elsinore Design Standards and shall be submitted to the Planning Department for review and approval by the DRC. STAFF COMMENTS NOTHING TO REPORT. COMMITTEE COMMENTS NOTHING TO REPORT. ADJOURNMENT THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE ADJOURNED AT 7:38 P.M. ~a.~ JAMES SANDS, CHAIRMAN - Respectfully Submitted, MINUTES OF LAKE ELSINORE DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE SEPTEMBER 3, 1997 THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE LAKE ELSINORE DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE SCHEDULED FOR SEPTEMBER 3, 1997, WAS CALLED FOR LACK OF AGENDA ITEMS. Respectfully submitted, ~~~ Linda Grindstaff ~ Recording Secretary - MINUTES SPECIAL DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE MEETING WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 11, 1997 ***************************************************************** The Design Review Committee Meeting was called to order at 3:00 p.m. by Vice Chairwoman Matthies. The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Committee Member Barnes. ROLL CALL PRESENT: COMMITTEE MEMBERS: BARNES, SCHIFFNER AND MATTHIES ABSENT: COMMITTEE MEMBERS: SANDS AND WILSEY Also present was: Community Development Director Leslie PUBLIC COMMENTS There being no request to speak the PUBLIC COMMENTS Section was closed. DESIGN APPLICATIONS NONE BUSINESS LICENSE APPLICATIONS 1. Carousel Carriage - DRC Consideration of Business License Approval for Operation of For Hire Horse Drawn Carriages in Planning Area 1 of Historic Elsinore District - Roy & Chris Comstock Community Development Director Leslie stated that Mr. Jackson will explain the proposed use and address parking of vehicles to load/unload the carriages and horses and the passenger waiting area. Mr. Leslie reported that this proposal was discussed with the Fire and Police Departments. Fire Chief Seabert indicated her only concern was that a description of the route and hours of operation be provided. However, the Police Department expressed more concern--they want to ensure that the drivers of the carriage know what to do when they hear a siren, due to the proximity of the Fire Department and Police Department; noted that the police get called down to the area of Peck and Main frequently; noted that the hours of operation Sunday evening is also a shift change and a busy time for them, and of major concern was the handling of money and it was suggested that the carriage operator not carry cash and that they not handle cash at curb side. Mr. Jackson, 141 North Main Street, stated they will use tickets and collect all monies inside. He explained the reason the police come down to Main and Peck a lot is because they are trying to keep the City parking lot clean of vagrants and other unsavory soles, which it has been for the last 2-3 weeks. Mr. Jackson stated that the horses are fully trained with regard to the sirens. Community Development Director Leslie stated that Mr. Comstock informed him that they are currently operating in Temecula and there is a fire station on the route, Old Town Temecula. Mr. Jackson stated the owners are looking for a home and wanting to get away from Temecula. Mr. Jackson stated the first time they will have one carriage and see how it goes and the second time may have two. Mr. Jackson noted the restriction on hours of operation, and stated they have activities that will take place--like certain meetings at City Hall where the carriage would be available. Mr. Jackson referred to the Grand Prix and stated they PAGE TWO-SPECIAL DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE MINUTES-SEPTEMBER 11,1997 are going to try to shut down Main and Peck and have bands and the carriage rides, but doesn't know if a special permit will be needed. Community Development Director Leslie stated that condition number 3 also addresses special events, and the intent of this condition is to note that the carriage can be used at other times, special events that are not necessarily happening on a regular basis. For events such as the Grand Prix, the use of the carriage, if possible, can be included in organizing the event overall with mention that it is part of it. Mr. Jackson stated that there may be times when they want to take the carriage ride over to the ballpark and work with the people at the ballgame, and tie the two pieces of the City together. - Mr. Jackson asked if everyone had seen the carriage. He then stated that they also have trollies and various carriages, but chose the black carriage with a white horse. Once in a while we would like to bring a trolley over for larger events. Mr. Jackson submitted a letter from Enchanted Treasures authorizing the use of their parking lot for unloading of equipment. Community Development Director Leslie asked if there was sufficient room. Mr. Jackson stated they will not try to unload in that parking lot and explained that they will pull in down by the lumber yard, unload everything and then pull the machinery in and then be able to pull the carriages out. Community Development Director Leslie stated that Mr. Comstock indicated that it takes approximately 20 minutes to unload. Mr. Jackson stated that Sunday afternoon they have Kerokoe and have 75-100 people and feel that they will ride the unit, but we have to integrate other times into it to get other people. Vice Chairwoman Matthies asked Mr. Jackson if he was trying for different hours other than Sundays. Mr. Jackson responded in the affirmative and stated that he felt he could just call and inform the Community Development Director of the event taking place. Community Development Director Leslie stated that he would only need to be informed if the carriage was proposed on a regular basis or making some change so that the emergency services can be notified as well. Committee Member Schiffner stated this should be done anytime there is an event other than the scheduled event. - Committee Member Schiffner asked if an alternate route was allowed for. Community Development Director Leslie explained that Mr. Comstock will be pulling a City Business License that would allow him to operate any where within the City. Committee Member Schiffner commented that this operation would not be restricted to the route submitted. Community Development Director Leslie stated that he is restricted to this route as his regular Sunday route. Mr. Jackson stated that he is carrying insurance and that Mr. Comstock is carrying insurance naming the City as additional insured. Committee Member Schiffner asked about the fee for the carriage ride. Mr. Jackson responded the fee will be $5.00 per person. Vice Chairman Matthies asked if the Downtown Business Association was involved. Mr. Jackson responded in the negative and stated the participants are merchants that will benefit from this operation. Committee Member Barnes referred to the letter from the adjacent property owner and asked if they were aware that there would be horses in the equipment and if there was any problem with that. Mr. Jackson responded in the negative and stated that they are contacting the people across the street to see if arrangements can also be made with them, we are trying to get 2-3 places as we do not want to be restricted. Also, funerals and weddings can be done as he is versatile and believes the City could really use this. Mr. Jackson asked for the next scheduled City Council meeting stating that he would like to bring the carriage out and park in front of the Cultural Center and take the Council members for a carriage ride. Committee Member Schiffner asked if handicap accessibility and children were taken into consideration. Mr. Jackson responded in the affirmative. Committee Member Schiffner asked Mr. Jackson if he had a problem with this being approved on a limited basis with the potential for extension. Mr. Jackson stated this is up to the DRC and something the City needs. Committee Member Schiffner stated that he likes the idea, but since there is a possibility that it can be done on a limited PAGE THREE-SPECIAL DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE MINUTES-SEPTEMBER 11, 1997 basis and see how it works before making a permanent commitment. Committee Member Barnes stated the license would have to be permanently qualified. Mr. Jackson stated this has a license for three years, and each Sunday is covered as each Sunday comes up, so I could say there will be no rides this Sunday because it is too hot. Committee Member Schiffner referred to the statement in the Staff Report "may want to consider approving this use on a trail basis pursuant to a limited duration with the potential for extension" and asked for clarification. Community Development Director Leslie explained that Mr. Comstock suggested a 4-6 month trial period as he has run into this in other cities that he operates in on a regular basis. Community Development Director Leslie further explained that it is possible to get a business license for less than a year, if so conditioned. Mr. Jackson stated that Mr. Comstock was prepared to pay for the full license and that a lot of the winter will be lost and may not be able to run it for months on end, and will have to look at each Sunday. Mr. Jackson stated the reason for the push is that there will be a big write up in the paper on Main Street within the next couple of weeks, interviewing shop owners and taking pictures and wanted to put the horse in there too. Committee Member Schiffner reiterated that he was in favor, but if there is a possibility to do it on a limited basis, approve without obligating ourselves too far ahead. Mr. Jackson asked Committee Member Schiffner if he was concerned with a year. Committee Member Schiffner responded in the negative. Committee Member Barnes stated the business license could be revoked if there are too many violations. MOVED BY COMMITTEE MEMBER SCHIFFNER, SECONDED BY COMMITTEE MEMBER BARNES AND CARRIED BY A VOTE OF 3-0 TO APPROVE THE BUSINESS LICENSE FOR OPERATION OF FOR HIRE HORSE DRAWN CARRIAGES (CAROUSEL CARRIAGE) IN PLANNING AREA 1 OF HISTORIC ELSINORE DISTRICT AT 141 NORTH MAIN STREET SUBJECT TO THE 6 CONDITIONS OF APPROV AL. 1. The operation shall be conducted in substantial conformance with the information submitted with the Business License Application, as outlined in the Staff Report to the DRC dated September 11, 1997, and with these Conditions of Approval. 2. Provide evidence of insurance in amount not less than one million dollars naming the City as an additionally insured party. 3. The portion of the business involving the selling of rides in the Downtown Area shall be limited to the route identified in the initial application and to Sundays between the hours of 5:30 p.m. and 9:00 p.m.. Future modification of these conditions may be possible upon request subject to review and approval by the Community Development Director or DRC if necessary. 4. All horses used in the operation shall be fitted with diaper bags. After each operation, the operator will be required to check the route and clean-up any debris or waste left by the operation. The operator will haul off all waste generated. 5. The operator prior to the start of operation must identify a location where transporting vehicles will be parked and unloaded and loaded. Prior to start of operation this location(s) must obtain the approval of the Community Development Department, if private property is proposed for use evidence of the owner's permission must be first provided to the Community Development Department in addition to obtaining their approval. 6. The operators may not restrict parking on Peck Street, as currently posted. If parking restrictions are desired for benefit of the carriages a separate application as well as City Council approval will be required as required by the Municipal Code. PAGE FOUR-SPECIAL DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE MINUTES-SEPTEMBER 11, 1997 STAFF COMMENTS NOTHING TO REPORT. COMMITTEE COMMENTS NOTHING TO REPORT. - ADJOURNMENT THE SPECIAL MEETING OF THE DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE ADJOURNED AT 3:25 P.M. ~~vyl.l~ Ericka Matthies, Vice Chairwoman Respectfully Submitted, ~~~ Recording Secretary - - MINUTES DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE MEETING SEPTEMBER 17, 1997 ******************************************************************* CALL TO ORDER The Design Review Committee Meeting was called to order by Chairman Sands at 7:20 p.m. ROLL CALL PRESENT: COMMISSIONERS: SANDS, SCHIFFNER, MATT IDES AND WILSEY ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: BARNES PUBLIC COMMENTS There being no request to speak the Public Comments section was closed. MOVED BY WILSEY, SECONDED BY SCHIFFNER AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE TO ADD CAROUSEL CARRIAGE FROM THE SPECIAL DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE MEETING OF SEPTEMBER 11, 1997 TO THE AGENDA AS AN INFORMATIONAL ITEM. CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS MOVED BY WILSEY, SECONDED BY SCIDFFNER AND CARRIED BY VOTE OF 3 TO 0 WITH SANDS ABSTAINING AND BARNES ABSENT TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR AS PRESENTED. 1. Minutes: a. Design Review Committee Regular Meeting - August 20, 1997 b. Design Review Committee Regular Meeting - September 3, 1997 DESIGN APPLICATIONS None. BUSINESS LICENSE APPLICATIONS 2. 110 South Main Street - Soccer Supplies Store - Carlos Godina (Relocation from 112 S. Main Street). Associate Planner Villa explained that this is a request for approval of a business license for 110 S. Main Street for a Soccer Supply Store. He explained that this business was allowed at 112 S. Main Street and the owner now wishes to relocate at an adjacent building. He noted that this is a use consistent with the C-1 and previously approved, staff recommends that this use be allowed. He further stated that the owner is posing new signage and staff further recommends that this be brought back for DRC approval. Committee Member Wilsey stated that he was glad to see a little diversity in the businesses downtown. MOVED BY MATTIDES, SECONDED BY SCHIFFNER AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO APPROVE A BUSINESS LICENSE FOR 110 SOUTH MAIN STREET, FOR THE SOCCER SUPPLY STORE WHICH IS BEING RELOCATED FROM 112 SOUTH MAIN STREET PAGE TWO - DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE MINUTES - SEPTEMBER 17, 1997 SUBJECT TO THE FOLLOWING CONDITION OF APPROVAL. Condition No.1: All signage shall be submitted to the Planning Department for the review and approval of the Design Review Committee (DRC), prior to installation. In addition, this signage shall be in compliance with the criteria established within the Historic Elsinore Design Standards and shall be submitted to the Planning Department for review and approval by the DRC. - 3. 100 North Main Street - Tom and Jerry's Antiaues and Collectibles - Robert and Dolores Solis. Associate Planner Villa explained that this is a request for a business license to operate an antique and collectibles store at 100 N. Main Street. He noted that this site was formerly Romano's Classics and the proposed use is consistent with the C-1 and c-o zoning district. He stated that Staff recommends conditions as listed in the report. Committee Member Matthies stated that she did not have any problems with this request and that she is always glad to see new businesses come into the City. Committee Member Schiffner stated that he was glad to see the property occupied and noted that he was in favor of this business. Committee Member Wilsey stated that the project and it's use is fine, however he noticed that the previous business license item and this one did not have the signage application with them. He asked if staff was still notifying them that when they submit their application for business license they can apply for their signage at the same time to stream line the permit process. Associate Planner Villa stated that the applicants are notified, however due to the design standards they feel that they require more time to consider what they will use for signage. Committee Member Wilsey asked if they wait to see if they get the business license approval before they proceed with signage. Associate Planner Villa concurred. - MOVED BY WILSEY, SECONDED BY MATTHIES AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO APPROVE THE BUSINESS LICENSE FOR 100 NORTH MAIN STREET "TOM AND JERRY'S ANTIQUES AND COLLECTIBLES" SUBJECT TO THE FOLLOWING 2 CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL. Condition No.1: No used clothing and appliances (large or small), or any other items normally found in a "thrift" store (a prohibited use) shall be permitted to be sold. Any used merchandise which is not an antique shall be of high, collectible quality. Condition No.2: All additional signage shall be submitted to the Planning Department for the review and approval of the Design Review Committee (ORC), prior to installation. In addition, this signage shall be in compliance with the criteria established within the Historic Elsinore Design Standards and shall be submitted to the Planning Department for review and approval by the DRC. - 4. 112 & 114 North Main Street - Main Street Florist and Candy Shoo - Faith Starr Bassion. Associate Planner Villa explained that this is a request for a business license to operate a flower shop and candy store at 112 and 114 North main Street. He further explained that the proposed uses are compatible with the C-1 and C-O Zoning District, therefore staff recommends approval. PAGE THREE - DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE MINUTES - SEPTEMBER 17, 1997 Committee Member Wilsey stated that it is nice to see diversity down town and noted that this is a new and different business. Committee Member Schiffner stated that he is glad to see a business of this kind come to the down town area. Committee Member Matthies stated that it is always nice to see something new. Chairman Sands concurred with the Committee Members as welcomed the business to the area as well as all the other businesses and wished them well. MOVED BY MATTHIES, SECONDED BY SCHIFFNER AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO APPROVE THE BUSINESS LICENSE FOR 112 & 114 NORTH MAIN STREET - "MAIN STREET FLORIST AND CANDY STORE" SUBJECT TO THE FOLLOWING CONDITION OF APPROVAL. Condition No.1: All signage shall be submitted to the Planning Department for the review and approval of the Design Review Committee (DRC), prior to installation. In addition, this signage shall be in compliance with the criteria established within the Historic Elsinore Design Standards and shall be submitted to the Planning Department for review and approval by the DRC. INFORMATIONAL Carousel Carriaee Chairman Sands stated that he had talked to Jan Howard from Memory Lane Antiques and she requested that the route be extended to encompass all the businesses on Main Street. He stated that he does not know how this could be accomplished and asked that staff handle this. He further stated that he was told that someone was asking the merchants to support the Carriage Ride and asked staff how this project was to be supported. Community Developer Director Leslie stated that the carriage ride has contracted with Chuckles Java Junction who in turn has guaranteed a certain amount of money for each time the carriage is here. He eXplained that the owner of Chuckles Java Junction approached other businesses down town to see if they would be willing to help defray that guarantee. There was general discussion in regard to the [mandaI process of the carriage ride. Community Development Director Leslie stated that because this ride is being done in conjunction with Chuckles Java Junction, the pick-up and drop-off is next to the establishment on Peck Street and gave an overview of the route. Chairman Sands clarified the map that was on the flier provided at Chuckles Java Junction. Community Development Director Leslie noted the problem of extending the route to Heald Street due to the pick-up and drop-off of passengers as well as the fact that the Police Department has suggested that the driver carry no money, therefore all the money transactions will be conducted inside of Chuckles Java Junction. There was general discussion regarding the parking on Peck Street and it was noted that the carriage cannot block off spaces since they will have to approach City Council to have a designated parking area. Committee Member Schiffner stated that it would not pose too much of a problem if they wished to extend the route by using a "figure eight" route then they could tour both sides of the street. Community Development Director Leslie stated that it is a good idea and can be suggested and if it is something that they would like to do, then they would need to come to Planning Department and present a new route so that he could provide it to police and fire. Committee Member Matthies noted that the only problem she could see with a figure eight is that if they turn left there is no stop sign at the intersection and this could pose a traffic problem. PAGE FOUR - DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE MINUTES - SEPTEMBER 17, 1997 Committee Member Wilsey stated that these types of activities have caused more people to come to the down town area and the businesses might like to extend their hours to take advantage of foot traffic on Main Street. STAFF COMMENTS None. COMMITTEE COMMENTS - None. ADJOURNMENT The Regular Design Review Committee Meeting was adjourned at 7:40 p.m. ~~= Respectfully submitted, - MINUTES DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE MEETING OCTOBER 1,1997 ****************************************************** CALL TO ORDER The Design Review Committee Meeting was called to order by Chairman Sands at 7 :26 p.m. ROLL CALL PRESENT: COMMISSIONERS: SANDS, SCHIFFNER AND WILSEY ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: BARNES AND MATT IDES PUBLIC COMMENTS There being no request to speak the Public Comments section was closed. CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS 1. Minutes: a. Design Review Committee Special Meeting - September 11, 1997 MOVED BY WILSEY, SECONDED BY SCIDFFNER AND CARRIED BY VOTE OF 2 TO 0 WITH SANDS ABSTAINING AND BARNS AND MATTIDES ABSENT TO APPROVE THE DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE SPECIAL MEETING MINUTES OF SEPTEMBER 11, 1997. b. Design Review Committee Regular Meeting - September 17, 1997 MOVED BY SANDS, SECONDED BY SCHIFFNER AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO APPROVE THE DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE REGULAR MEETING MINUTES OF SEPTEMBER 17, 1997. DESIGN APPLICATIONS 2. Sign - 112 & 114 North Main Street - Main Street Florist and Candy Shop - Faith Starr Bassion. Associate Planner Villa explained that this is a proposal for a facade sign 4 foot by 9 foot for a total of 37 square feet in sign area. He noted that the proposed sign will be located at 112 and 114 North Main Street. He further explained that the applicant also wished to obtain approval for installation of an awning for future installation which would conform to the color standards. Mr. Villa noted that the awning will be similar to awnings used along Main Street. He stated that staff recommends that the Design Review Committee approve the proposed signage at 112 and 114 North Main Street. Committee Member Wilsey asked if the Committee could condition this item for approval of the awning. Staff stated that he could. Committee Member Wilsey stated that he would like to see Condition No. 1 to read as follows: The awning will be allowed as long as it meets the color and design standards of the Design Review Committee and approved by staff. PAGE TWO - DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE MINUTES - OCTOBER 1, 1997 Committee Member Schiffner clarified that both items would be approved at this time. He stated that he has no problem with approving this item as long as there is a condition regarding the awning. Chairman Sands stated that he has no objection and feels that it will be a beautiful sign. MOVED BY WILSEY, SECONDED BY SCHIFFNER AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO APPROVE SIGNAGE AT 112 AND 114 NORTH MAIN STREET WITH CONDITION NO.1 TO READ AS FOLLOWS: - 1. The applicant shall be allowed to place an awning as shown on the approved exhibit provided colors and design meet the directives of the Historic Elsinore Design Standards and subject to the approval of the Community Development Director or designee. Community Development Director Leslie informed the Design Review Committee that before the applicant can install the awning they must obtain a building permit. He explained that it is to insure proper attachment to the building. He noted that the Building Department will not allow a permit to be pulled until the Planning Department signs off on the project. BUSINESS LICENSE APPLICATIONS None. INFORMATIONAL None. STAFF COMMENTS - None. COMMITTEE COMMENTS None. ADJOURNMENT The Regular Design Review Committee Meeting was adjourned at 7:31 p.m. ~LA~L~d~ ~AMESSANDS, CHAIRMAN Respectfully submitted, - MINUTES DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE MEETING OCTOBER 15, 1997 ****************************************************** CALL TO ORDER The Design Review Committee Meeting was called to order by Chairman Sands at 7:36 p.m. ROLL CALL PRESENT: COMMISSIONERS: SANDS, BARNES, SCHIFFNER AND WILSEY ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: MATTHIES PUBLIC COMMENTS There being no request to speak the Public Comments section was closed. CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS MOVED BY WILSEY, SECONDED BY SCHIFFNER AND CARRIED BY VOTE OF 3-0 TO WITH BARNES ABSTAINING AND MATTHIES ABSENT TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR AS PRESENTED. 1. Minutes: a. Design Review Committee Regular Meeting - October 1, 1997 DESIGN APPLICATIONS None. BUSINESS LICENSE APPLICATIONS None. INFORMATIONAL None. STAFF COMMENTS None. COMMITTEE COMMENTS None. ADJOURNMENT The Regular Design Review Committee Meeting was adjourned at 7:38 p.m. _~A~ ~ (JAMES SANDS, tWAIRMAN ~2>e~tfullY suh!Jilued, _ ~~ Recording Secretary - - - MINUTES DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE MEETING NOVEMBER 5, 1997 ****************************************************************************** CALL TO ORDER The Design Review Committee Meeting was called to order by Chairman Sands at 7:23 p.m. ROLL CALL PRESENT: COMMISSIONERS: SANDS, BARNES, SCHIFFNER ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: MATTHIES, WILSEY PUBLIC COMMENTS There being no request to speak the Public Comments section was closed. CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS MOVED BY SCHIFFNER, SECONDED BY BARNES AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR AS PRESENTED. 1. Minutes a. Design Review Committee Regular Meeting Minutes of October 15, 1997. BUSINESS LICENSE APPLICATIONS Chairman Sands stated that items 2 and 3 will be heard together. 2. 123-A North Main Street (Relocation from 106 N. Main Street)-Macarena Imports-Mable Prats. Senior Planner Villa explained that this is a request for approval of a business license to operate a home crafted outdoor or patio accessories store at 123 North Main Street. He noted that the business is relocating from 106 North Main Street and they wish to use the same signage. He stated that staff recommends approval. MOVED BY SCHIFFNER, SECONDED BY BARNES AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO APPROVE A BUSINESS LICENSE APPLICATION AT 123-A NORTH MAIN STREET WITH THE CONDITION THAT NO USED CLOTHING AND APPLIANCE (LARGE OR SMALL), OR ANY OTHER ITEMS NORMALL Y FOUND IN A "THRIFT STORE" (A PROHIBITED USE) BE PERMITTED TO BE SOLD; APPROVED THE SIGNAGE FOR 123 NORTH MAIN STREET FOR MACARENA IMPORTS. DESIGN APPLICATIONS 3. Window Signage for 123-A North Main Street - Macarena Imports - Mable Prats. (This item combined with item 2.) PAGE TWO - DESIGN REVIEW MINUTES - NOVEMBER 5, 1997 4. Window Signage for 100 North Main Street - Tom & Jerry's - Tom Solis. Senior Planner Villa explained that due to a late submittal, he recommends that this item be continued to the next Regular Meeting. MOVED BY SCHIFFNER, SECONDED BY BARNES AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE TO CONTINUE THE REQUEST FOR WINDOW SIGN AGE FOR 100 NORTH MAIN STREET - TOM & JERRY'S TO THE MEETING OF NOVEMBER 19, 1997. - INFORMATIONAL ST AFF/COMMITTEE COMMENTS None ADJOURNMENT THE DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE MEETING WAS ADJOURNED AT 7:28 P.M. Q.-~ ~m~~DS, CHAIRMAN - - MINUTES DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE MEETING NOVEMBER 19, 1997 ************************************************************************ CALL TO ORDER The Design Review Committee Meeting was called to order by Chairman Sands at 7:43 p.m. ROLL CALL PRESENT: COMMISSIONERS: SANDS, MATTHIES AND SCHIFFNER ****** ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: BARNES AND WILSEY PUBLIC COMMENTS There being no request to speak the Public Comments section was closed. CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS MOVED BY SCHIFFNER, SECONDED BY SANDS WITH MATTHIES ABSTAINING ON THE MINUTES OF NOVEMBER 5, TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR. 1. Minutes a. Design Review Committee Regular Meeting of November 5, 1997. 2. Conditional Use Permit 97-7, Lake Elsinore Baptist Church - Concurred with Planning Commission action to continue to a future date. BUSINESS LICENSE APPLICATIONS 3. 123-B North Main Street - Rhonda's Country Cottage - Rhonda Cusumaus Senior Planner Villa explained the request is for a business license to operate an antique and craft store at 123-B North Main Street. The building in which this business is proposed previously housed Chuckles Java Junction. Previous to that time the business space was occupied by an antique co-op, a furniture store and a restaurant. This use is consistent with the underlying C-l and c-o zoning districts, and staff recommends approval. Chairman Sands asked if anyone wished to speak on the matter. Receiving no response, he asked for discussion at the table. There being no discussion he called for a motion. MOVED BY MATTHIES, SECONDED BY SCHIFFNER AND CARRIED BY A VOTE OF 3-0 TO APPROVE A BUSINESS LICENSE APPLICATION AT 123-B NORTH MAIN STREET FOR RHONDA'S COUNTRY COTTAGE SUBJECT TO THE FOLLOWING 2 CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL: Condition 1: No used clothing and appliances (large or small), or any other items normally found in a "thrift" store (a prohibited use) shall be permitted to be sold. Any used merchandise which is not an antique shall be of high, collectible quality. Condition 2: All additional signage shall be submitted to the Planning Department for the review and approval of the Design Review Committee (DRC), prior to installation. In addition, this signage shall be in compliance with the PAGE TWO - DESIGN REVIEW MINUTES - NOVEMBER 19, 1997 criteria established within the Historic Elsinore Design Standards and shall be submitted to the Planning Department for review and approval by the DRC. 4. 112 South Main Street - Elsinore TV - Gasan Zahabi Senior Planner Villa explained the request is for a business license to operate a television and VCR repair shop at 112 South Main Street. Currently the building is vacant. The zoning for Planning Area 1 of the Historic Downtown Overlay District allow uses within the C-1 and c-o districts. Since, this use could be considered consistent with the C-1 and c-o districts and compatible with the current existing uses within the immediate vicinity, staff recommends approval. - Chairman Sands asked if anyone wished to speak on the matter. Receiving no response, he asked for discussion at the table. Committee Member Matthies stated that televisions are being displayed in the front window of the building and are those not for sale. Committee Member Schiffner commented on the sale of unclaimed appliances and feels this would be restrictive to tell the applicant that he cannot do this. Discussion ensued on how to prohibit the sale/display of appliances and whether the sale of appliances could be limited to no displays. MOVED BY MATTHIES, SECONDED BY SCHIFFNER AND CARRIED BY A VOTE OF 3-0 TO APPROVE A BUSINESS LICENSE APPLICATION AT 112 SOUTH MAIN STREET FOR ELSINORE TV SUBJECT TO THE FOLLOWING 2 CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL: - Condition 1: No appliance sales (new or used) will be allowed in compliance with the Design Standards. Condition 2: Any signage shall be submitted to the Planning Department for the review and approval of the Design Review Committee (DRC), prior to installation. In addition, this signage shall be in compliance with the criteria established within the Historic Elsinore Design Standards and shall be submitted to the Planning Department for review and approval by the DRC. DESIGN APPLICATIONS 5. Window Signage for 100 North Main Street - Tom & Jerry's - Tom Solis Senior Planner Villa explained request is for a window sign to be painted on the inside glass of the front display window fronting Main Street. This sign, as proposed, meets the Design Standards for the Historic Elsinore Overlay District for window signs with respect to size, style of lettering and coloring. Chairman Sands asked if anyone wished to speak on the matter. Receiving no response, he asked for discussion at the table. There being no discussion he called for a motion. MOVED BY SCHIFFNER, SECONDED BY MATTHIES AND CARRIED BY A VOTE OF 3-0 TO APPROVE THE WINDOW SIGNAGE AT 100 NORTH MAIN STREET FOR TOM & JERRY'S ANTIQUES AND COLLECTIBLES. PAGE THREE - DESIGN REVIEW MINUTES - NOVEMBER 19, 1997 INFORMATIONAL ST AFF/COMMITTEE COMMENTS None ADJOURNMENT THE DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE MEETING WAS ADJOURNED AT 7:53 P.M. 2i~ () ',~QAf');~ ~------------------------- JMmes Sands, Chairman Respectfully submitted, ~~- - - - MINUTES OF LAKE ELSINORE DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE DECEMBER 3, 1997 THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE LAKE ELSINORE DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE SCHEDULED FOR DECEMBER 3, 1997, WAS CALLED FOR LACK OF AGENDA ITEMS. Respectfully submitted, ~ ~~Jr Linda Grindstaff Recording Secretary - - - MINUTES DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE MEETING DECEMBER 17, 1997 ****************************************************************************** CALL TO ORDER The Design Review Committee Meeting was called to order by Chairman Sands at 8:01 p.m. ROLL CALL PRESENT: COMMISSIONERS: SANDS, BARNES, SCHIFFNER AND WILSEY ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: MATTHIES PUBLIC COMMENTS There being no request to speak the Public Comments section was closed. CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS 1. Minutes MOVED BY SCHIFFNER, SECONDED BY SANDS WITH BARNES AND WILSEY ABSTAINING TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF NOVEMBER 19, 1997, AND DECEMBER 3,1997. 2. Minor Design Review of Addition to a Single-Family Residence at 210 Davis Street - MOVED BY SCHIFFNER, SECONDED BY WILSEY AND CARRIED BY A VOTE OF 4-0 TO DENY THE ADDITION TO A SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENCE AT 210 DA VIS STREET DUE TO AESTHETIC CONCERNS. BUSINESS LICENSE APPLICATIONS NONE DESIGN APPLICATIONS NONE INFORMATIONAL STAFF/COMMITTEE COMMENTS NONE ADJOURNMENT THE DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE MEETING WAS ADJOURM'D AT 8:03 P.M. ~ a, ~~h 0";~~;-s;;cls~-ch;i-;;;~-------- Respectfully submitted, ~ - - -