HomeMy WebLinkAbout01-13-2004 RDAMINUTES
REGULAR REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MEETING
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
183 NORTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA
TUESDAY, JANUARY 13, 2004
CALL TO ORDER
The Regular Redevelopment Agency Meeting was called to order by Chairman Hickman at 5:00
p.m.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: BOARDMEMBERS: BUCKLEY, KELLEY, MAGEE,
SCHIFFNER, HICKMAN
ABSENT: BOARDMEMBERS: NONE
Also present were: Executive Director Watenpaugh, Assistant Executive Director Best,
Legal Counsel Leibold, Assistant Legal Counsel Miles, Community Development Director
Brady and Clerk of the Board Kasad.
CLOSED SESSION
A. CONFERENCE WITH REAL PROPERTY NEGOTIATOR
(Government Code § 54965.8)
Property: A.P.N. 373-210-040 & 371-030-021 (Lake
Elsinore Diamond Stadium and parking lot)
Negotiating Parties: Impact Capital consulting, L.L.C. and
The Redevelopment Agency of the City of Lake Elsinore
Under Negotiation: Price and Terms (17:40.1)(X:134.10)
Legal Counsel Leibold announced the Closed Session discussion as listed above.
THE REGULAR REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MEETING WAS RECESSED TO
CLOSED SESSION AT 5:01 P.M.
The Closed Session discussion was completed at 6:55 p.m.
RECONVENE IN PUBLIC SESSION (7:00 P.M.)
Chairman Hickman reconvened the Regular Redevelopment Agency Meeting in Public Session
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at 9:25 p.m.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: BOARDMEMBERS: BUCKLEY, KELLEY, MAGEE,
SCHIFFNER, HICKMAN
ABSENT: BOARDMEMBERS: NONE
Also present were: Executive Director Watenpaugh, Assistant Executive Director Best,
Legal Counsel Leibold, Assistant Legal Counsel Miles, Administrative Services Director
Pressey, Community Development Director Brady, Community Services Director Sapp,
Lake & Aquatic Resources Director Kilroy, Police Chief Walsh, Information/
Communications Manager Dennis, City Treasurer Weber and Clerk of the Board Kasad.
CLOSED SESSION REPORT
Legal Counsel Leibold announced that the Redevelopment Agency Board met in Closed Session
regarding Real Property Negotiations as listed above, with no reportable action.
PUBLIC COMMENTS — NON - AGENDIZED ITEMS —1 MINUTE
No Comments.
CONSENT CALENDAR
Boardmember Magee indicated that he would be abstaining from vote in Items 1. a. and 1. b. as
they preceded his seating on the Board.
MOVED BY SCHIFFNER, SECONDED BY KELLEY AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR AS PRESENTED.
The following Minutes were approved:
a. Joint City Council /Redevelopment Agency Study Session — November 25, 2003.
b. Regular Redevelopment Agency Meeting — November 25, 2003.
C. Regular Redevelopment Agency Meeting — December 9, 2003. (F:134.3)
2. Received and ordered filed the Investment Report for November, 2003. (F:12.3)
Concurred with Council Action to Approve the Design Review for Industrial Project No.
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I- 2003 -01, "Pasadena Business Park IP'. (F:86.2)
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PUBLIC COMMENTS — NON - AGENDIZED ITEMS — 3 MINUTES
No Comments.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR COMMENTS
No Comments.
LEGAL COUNSEL COMMENTS
No Comments.
BOARDMEMBER COMMENTS
No Comments.
ADJOURNMENT
THE REGULAR REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MEETING WAS ADJOURNED AT
9:26 P.M.
C__---DrARYL HICKMAN, CHAIRMAN
REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
AT EST:
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VICKI KASAD, CMC, CLERK OF THE BOARD
REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
MINUTES
JOINT CITY COUNCIL/REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
STUDY SESSION
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
183 NORTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA
TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 10, 2004
CALL TO ORDER
Mayor Buckley called the Joint Study Session to order at 4:05 p.m.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT:
ABSENT:
COUNCILMEMBERS
HICKMAN, KELLEY,
MAGEE, SCHIFFNER,
BUCKLEY
COUNCILMEMBERS: NONE
Also present were: City Manager Watenpaugh, Assistant City Manager
Best, City Attorney Leibold, Administrative Services Director Pressey,
Community Development Director Brady, Community Services Director
Sapp, Information /Communications Manager Dennis, Lake & Aquatic
Resources Director Kilroy, Public Works Manager Payne, Parks & Open
Space Manager Fazzio and Deputy City Clerk Ray.
DISCUSSION ITEMS
City Attorney Leibold indicated there were three items for closed session.
1. Anticipated litigation (2 cases).
2. Public employee performance evaluation (City Manager).
Consent Calendar
1. Minutes — Councilman Magee commented on Item 1 a page 8 that
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he was listed as the Liaison to the Downtown Merchants Association.
Councilman Hickman indicated that City Treasurer Weber was the Liaison.
Councilman Magee requested making that change in the record. He also
commented on Item lb page 3, fourth paragraph, John Tavaglione's name
was spelled incorrectly and the last paragraph of that same page last
sentence it was a TAKE permit not TANK permit.
2. Warrant List — Councilman Hickman requested clarification for various
checks issued from Item No. 2, the Warrant List. Staff clarified the checks
in question.
Councilman Magee requested clarification for various checks issued from
Item No. 2, the Warrant List. Staff clarified the checks in question.
Mayor Buckley inquired why the City was paying for the gas leak on
Main and Sulpher, and if it was because of the right -of -way.
City Manager Watenpaugh confirmed that was correct.
Mayor Buckley asked if the tanks were approved to build in the right -of-
way.
City Manager Watenpaugh explained the tanks that were removed had been
in place years ago, and when the City did a renovation 10 years ago to the
downtown area, the tanks were found; thus the City got to remove and abate
the tanks.
Mayor Buckley inquired if there was any potential that the original owner
would remove the tanks.
City Manager Watenpaugh explained the property had changed hands
multiple times. He commented that the City was liable for the removal of
the tanks.
3. Approval of Final Map 30492 — Pardee Homes, Inc.
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Councilman Magee commented he would be abstaining from Items 3, 4, and
5 since the projects were all approved before he was seated on the Council.
4. Approval of Final Map 30492 -4- Pardee Homes, Inc.
No comments.
5. Approval of Final 30754 — Pardee Homes, Inc.
No comments.
PUBLIC HEARING
21. Tentative Tract Map 31917 — K. Hovnanian Forecast Homes —
Mayor Buckley inquired about Condition #16 (allow work on Saturday). He
commented he had concerns about that Condition; and he noted that there
were homes nearby although he had not received a lot of complaints
recently, the past actions of the builder concerning their hours of operations
and keeping the dust down was in his opinion awarding inappropriate
behavior.
Councilman Magee recalled in July of 2003, while attending a Council
Meeting, listening to residents in the site area explaining the reasons why
they were displeased with the way the grading operation had occurred and
the hours of operation with respect to this particular builder. He indicated
based on their past performance the complaints that were received from that
particular housing group and page 4 of a City Manager's memo dated 2/6/04
"Forecast Homes had not been willing to work with Staff and will receive
daily citations, beginning Monday, February 91h until compliant with their
conditions of approval ". He commented he was not interested in rewarding
a developer whose bad behavior continued seven months hence.
Mayor Pro Tern Kelley inquired if they were currently in compliance with
CR &R.
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City Manager Watenpaugh confirmed they were currently in compliance
with CR &R. He indicated another issue that might come up was regarding a
signal light.
Councilman Magee asked City Manager Watenpaugh to explain.
City Attorney Leibold joined the Study Session.
City Manager Watenpaugh explained that Staff was working with the
builder to require that they put up a cash bond or letter of credit; he
explained that the condition in their existing plan allowed them nine more
houses they could pull, but they reached the nine houses they could not pull
anymore permits until the signal was in place. He noted unless the builder
complied with a letter of credit or cash bond they would not be able to pull
more than nine permits.
Councilman Schiffner inquired if the builder had given an explanation of
why they had not moved forward with the signal.
City Manager Watenpaugh indicated the builder had ordered the controller
prior to getting the signalization approved, but the controller received was
not to the specifications the City uses, so they had to reorder.
Councilman Hickman indicated that Horton in the Tuscany area was
working seven days a week, and their sign stated until dusk they were
allowed to work. He noted daylight savings would be upon us soon and they
should be working 7:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m. like everyone else and they were
working that past Sunday.
Mayor Buckley commented that in a number of other cities that failure to
comply with hours of operations and dust remediation, not only meant the
work had to end that day, but they also did not get to work the entire next
day. He also commented as a City we should have far more strict penalties
for failing to comply with work hours. He deferred to City Attorney Leibold
inquiring how strict the City could become.
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City Attorney Leibold noted the City could establish hours of operation or
construction activity as deemed appropriate. She indicated the noise
ordinance specified that construction or grading activity had a specified time
frame.
Mayor Buckley inquired if to put in a penalty, the Council would need to
change the L.E.M.C.
City Manager Watenpaugh inquired if rather than penalizing all of the
developers, was it possible to add something similar to Mayor Buckley's
suggestion into the cost recovery program, so if the City charged it, then it
became an issue of enforcement.
City Attorney Leibold indicated it was possible for Council to impose a
more restrictive condition than what was specified in the LEMC with
discussion and a finding as to why a more restrictive condition was imposed.
Mayor Buckley inquired if past bad behavior would qualify.
City Attorney Leibold commented certainly with respect to a cost recovery
concept suggested by the City Manager, because the City had historically
incurred cost in the enforcement of that condition. She was not sure that
past bad behavior justified a more restrictive time of operation, but felt
Council could specified exactly what the consequences of violating the
condition were.
Councilman Schiffner indicated there must have been a reason why the time
was extended to include Saturday and had to have been discussed at the
Planning Commission and there must have been some comments.
Community Development Director Brady indicated the applicant had
requested additional time and the intent was the location of the tract was
removed from the existing homes and the noise would not be as great.
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Councilman Schiffner commented that the tract was further back and was
not as close as the first tract. He indicated it should be conditioned upon
there being no complaints; and in the event complaints were received the
Council would eliminate Saturdays.
Councilman Magee inquired about the lot sizes in the tract.
Community Development Director Brady indicated the lots ranged in size
from 6,000 sq. ft. to 27,000 sq. ft. and the average size was 10,114 sq.ft.
Councilman Magee indicated on Condition #57 staff had discussed slopes
greater than 2:1 and inquired if there were a significant amount of slopes
greater than 2:1 in the tract.
Community Development Director Brady indicated the City standard was
2:1.
Councilman Magee indicated Condition #79 the last sentence read — "Signal
shall be funded by CID monies and in accordance with the development
agreement associated with the La Laguna Estates Specific Plan." He
inquired if there was money in that fund right now or was it something that
would be created in this particular phase.
Community Development Director Brady indicated he was not sure of the
amount of the balance of that CFD at that time. He would need to research
that information.
Councilman Hickman asked if Staff was requesting drip irrigation for the
landscaping and possibly fertilization units.
Community Services Director Brady indicated the landscape plan had not
been submitted, but the HOA would maintain all the common open space
areas. Slope areas that were in a lot would be the responsibility of the
property owner.
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Councilman Hickman indicated they had won an award at the State level in
Tuscany Hills for their drip irrigation program. He suggested in the future
Staff should consider drip irrigation instead of sprinklers, as it would
conserve water and save money.
Councilman Schiffner suggested adding into the Conditions of Approval — In
the event of excessive number of complaints, Saturday work would be
eliminated.
22. Tentative Parcel Map No. 29996, Mitigated Negative Declaration No. 2003-
04 and Design Review of Industrial Project No. I 2003 -05- Southwest of
Collier Avenue on Hunco Way within the Collier Avenue Business Park.
City Manager Watenpaugh gave an overview of the item.
Councilman Magee noted on the bottom of page 1 there was discussion of
when building permits could be pulled and on the next page the sentence
began- "Buildings G and H as shown on the plans ", it was possible Staff
dropped a sentence.
Community Development Director Brady clarified in the staff report the
condition was modified to allow the buildings to be constructed and the
certificate of occupancy would not be granted until the storm drain was in
place, so the last sentence on page 1 should read "Complete construction of
the storm drain prior to issuance of any certificates of occupancy ". The
Buildings G and H should not have been included.
Councilman Magee inquired if there was a design of the storm drain
available.
Community Development Director Brady explained the drainage would go
from Collier, take the drainage off the Home Depot site, take it through
Hunco Way across Pasadena and into the Outflow Channel, which was
under design.
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Councilman Magee noted in the plans that were submitted to him, the upper
right hand corner of the Tentative Parcel Map Engineer Dennis C.
Fonsworth's license expired in the year 2000 and hoped he had an updated
stamp and license before he submitted the plan.
Business Items
City Manager Watenpaugh commented that there was a request by the Water
District to pull Item No. 33, the LEAPS Project. He noted Mayor Buckley
had requested a written project in the packet that was given to Council, but
the Water District would like to make a presentation.
Councilman Schiffner explained they would need to agendize the matter
because they would have more than two Director's at the Council Meeting.
Mayor Pro Tern Kelley indicated that she would like to see a presentation on
the issue.
Councilman Magee echoed Mayor Pro Tern Kelley and commented that he
was not comfortable with seeing the item on the agenda without receiving an
update as a Councilmember.
Mayor Buckley commented that the sudden arrival on the agenda was
extremely inappropriate and he found it interesting that they decided to pull
the item. He indicated at the last meeting Council was looking for a timeline
and some sort of informational direction whether the City had to get
involved or if the City could get involved, and what were the consequences
if the City did get involved, which were basic questions. He noted if the
City was a permitting agency it would absolutely inappropriate for the
Council to consider a resolution of support as that could be conceived as
predecisional in the permitting concept.
Councilman Schiffner explained that the Water Department requested
LESJWA to give the approval supporting the LEAPS Project, and he gave
the approval of the City on the condition the City Council would approve it,
so LESJWA could not approve the support until the Lake Elsinore City
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Council had given their support, so he requested it be put on the Agenda and
the Water District requested the opportunity to give a presentation.
31. July 4 "' Fireworks.
Mayor Buckley commented it was a great idea to have the fireworks over the
Lake.
City Manager Watenpaugh deferred to Community Services Director Sapp.
Community Services Director Sapp explained there were only two
pyrotechnic companies available, the third company (San Diego Fireworks)
was booked for that day. He explained that Fireworks America was located
in Lakeside and provided a bid at $15,000 and $20,000. Pyro Spectaculars
was located in Rialto and provided a bid at $17,000, $20,000 and $25,000.
He noted for comparison purposes he used the $20,000 bid. He indicated
Pyro Spectaculars could do a simulcast over the radio "Sky Concert" with
music and last 20 minutes. Fireworks America could also provided the same
simulcast over the radio, but since they were located in Lakeside the radio
stations they work with were San Diego based and might not have the range
to reach Lake Elsinore. Pyro Spectacular networked through KOLA Radio
99.9, which reached Lake Elsinore. He went on to say that the price tag was
broken down to the number of shells that each bid would provide. Pyro
Spectacular provided 1,136 or approximately one shell per second.
Fireworks America was 694 or one shell per 1.7 seconds, both shows were
20 minutes in length for $20,000.
Mayor Pro Tem Kelley inquired about Staff coordinating a boat parade.
Community Services Director Sapp indicated that it was discussed if there
were an activity on the Lake with fireworks it would be a great opportunity
to have a boat parade. The Staff cost for preparation and event operation
was estimated at $9,417 and would be part of the 2004 -2005 FY Budget.
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Councilman Hickman inquired why the boats already on the lake need to
come off the lake instead of being out there with their green and white lights
on and let the boats for the parade go about the exterior of the lake.
Lake & Aquatic Resources Director Kilroy explained that during the first
year the Lake Department would like to see where the fall -out zone would
be and there was concern of heavy drinking on the 4th of July and wild
boaters, so it may be difficult to control the area.
Councilman Hickman commented that he would go with the first year of
having the boats come off the water, but the second year he would like to see
the lake open for all boaters.
Community Services Director Sapp commented that there was normally one
or two arrests while boating under the influence. He noted it was illegal to
drink on the beach and illegal to be drunk while driving a boat, but it was not
against State law to drink in a boat on the Lake.
City Manager Watenpaugh expressed his concern with the unlimited speed
zone on the Lake; and there would need to be enforcement out there all night
or until patrol was able to get everyone off the Lake.
Mayor Pro Tern Kelley inquired about possible parking issues. She
commented that along Lakeshore Drive cars would stop to watch the
fireworks. She asked if staff would try to have citizens go to other areas to
park.
Community Services Director Sapp indicated that Staff would encourage
citizens to park at the Stadium and walk out in the levee and view the
fireworks show. Staff was recommending that Council exempt Staff from
Chapter 3.08.070 LEMC (the formal bidding process).
Councilman Magee was concerned with the dollar amount for the event. He
thought the idea with the Lake was great and encouraged Staff to work with
Pete Dawson and L.E.M.S.A.R. He agreed with Mayor Buckley regarding
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free parking at the stadium and at the boat launch facilities if a flyer was to
be prepared that not only discussed where the fireworks were, but gave the
details of participating in the boat parade.
32. Consideration of State Proposition 57- Economic Recovery Bond Act; and
Proposition 58 California Balanced Budget Act.
Mayor Buckley suggested Resolutions of support.
City Manager Watenpaugh indicated Staff had drafted letters of support,
but could revise them into resolutions of support.
Mayor Buckley indicated letters of support would be fine.
City Manager Watenpaugh indicated that Assistant City Manager Best had
attended a meeting with neighboring cities and chambers and they were in
favor of 57 and 58, but it was a Council decision to support the propositions.
33. Resolution of Support for EVMWD's LEAPS Project.
The item was pulled from the Agenda.
34. Annual Financial Reports for Fiscal Year ended June 30, 2003.
City Manager Watenpaugh gave an overview of the item.
35. General Plan Update.
Mayor Pro Tern Kelley indicated this was long overdue.
City Manager Watenpaugh gave an overview of the item. He noted that it
could be costly. Staff was proposing to Council to do an RFP or RFQ to
receive quotes and then break down into elements. The first would be the
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land use and second would be traffic circulation; this would be a multi -year
project, so it could be funded in multiple years. He deferred to Community
Development Director Brady.
Community Development Director Brady indicated that in the Staff reports
the housing element would need to be updated and that was an issue Council
might want to consider as part of this particular process, it was required by
law to be updated on a regular basis. The addition of an economic element
or lake element or tourist recreation element could also be part of the plan.
He noted the Council might want to consider revising the zoning ordinance,
which was the implementing tool of the General Plan.
Councilman Schiffner commented that a portion of the General Plan would
need to be revised to be in conformance with the MSHCP.
Community Development Director Brady indicated the key elements would
be both the circulation and the land use.
Councilman Magee indicated the process could go astray rather quickly and
become extremely time consuming. He commended Mr. Brady on the RFP
document. He noted that under Item 5.0 with respect to the sphere of
influence, it was important to stress whether in writing or during the
interview process that we had some very unique and sensitive issues with
respect to our sphere of influence. Item 7.0 was well worded. Item 5c under
cost of services, he suggested adding "a periodic budget review of these
tasks as they met threshholds ", this would allow Council to monitor the
dollars so that it did not spiral out of hand. He indicated page 9 of 13 Item
C4, the last sentence — "A total not to exceed the cost of each of the tasks for
the entire scope of work must be included." He asked how the City intended
to handle change orders. He noted this could be answered later. He
indicated the City of Riverside was on track to complete theirs in 18 months.
Mayor Buckley wanted to ensure that the potential bidders for this project
understood public participation through numerous townhall type meetings
through an active engaged advisory committee and something similar to the
SCAG compass or what SANDAG had done to drive the process. He
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suggested "Public participation shall be an integral and key component from
the outset of the process."
REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
Chairman Hickman gave an overview of the RDA Agenda.
Legal Counsel Leibold indicated there was one item for closed session.
Conference with Real Property Negotiator with respect to the Stadium and
Impact Consulting. The price and terms were under discussion.
Consent Calendar
No comments.
BUSINESS ITEMS
3. Establishment of Joint Study Session with RDA Committee.
Chairman Hickman commented he would like to schedule it in March and
suggested the RDA Committee set the agenda.
ADJOURNMENT
THE JOINT CITY COUNCIL/REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
MEETING WAS ADJOURNED AT 5:15 P.M.
,MAYOR
CITY OF
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YL HICKMAN, CHAIRMAN
REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
Respectfully submitted,
rederick Ray, Deputy City Clerk
ATTEST:
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VICKI KASAD, CMC, CITY CLERK/
HUMAN RESOURCES DIRECTOR
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
MINUTES
REGULAR REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MEETING
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
183 NORTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA
TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 10, 2004
CALL TO ORDER
The Regular Redevelopment Agency Meeting was called to order by
Chairman Hickman at 5:00 p.m.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: BOARDMEMBERS: BUCKLEY, KELLEY,
MAGEE, SCHIFFNER,
HICKMAN
ABSENT: BOARDMEMBERS: NONE
Also present were: Executive Director Watenpaugh, Assistant Executive
Director Best, Legal Counsel Leibold, Community Development
Director Brady, Community Services Director Sapp, Administrative
Services Director Pressey, Director of Lake & Aquatic Resources
Kilroy, Information /Communications Manager Dennis, Public Works
Manager Payne, Parks & Open Space Manager Fazzio, City Treasurer
Weber and Deputy City Clerk Ray.
CLOSED SESSION
a. CONFERENCE WITH REAL PROPERTY NEGOTIATOR
(Government Code Section 54965.8) (FA0. 1)(X: 134. 10)
Property: APN 373 - 210 -040 & 371 - 030 -021 (Lake Elsinore
Diamond Stadium and parking lot)
Negotiating Parties: Impact Capital Consulting L.L.C. and The
Redevelopment Agency of the City of Lake Elsinore
Under Negotiation: Price and Terms
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Legal Counsel Leibold announced the Closed Session discussion topic as
listed above.
THE REGULAR REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MEETING WAS
RECESSED TO CLOSED SESSION AT 5:01 P.M.
THE CLOSED SESSION DISCUSSION WAS COMPLETED AT 7:00
P.M.
RECONVENE PUBLIC SESSION (7:00 P.M.)
Chairman Hickman reconvened the Regular Redevelopment Agency
Meeting in public session at 9:00 p.m.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT:
ABSENT:
BOARDMEMBERS:
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BUCKLEY,KELLEY,
MAGEE, SCHIFFNER,
HICKMAN
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Also present were: Executive Director Watenpaugh, Assistant Executive
Director Best, Legal Counsel Leibold, Community Development
Director Brady, Community Services Director Sapp, Administrative
Services Director Pressey, Director of Lake & Aquatic Resources
Kilroy, Information /Communications Manager Dennis, Public Works
Manager Payne, Parks & Open Space Manager Fazzio, City Treasurer
Weber and Deputy City Clerk Ray.
CLOSED SESSION REPORT
Legal Counsel Leibold announced that the Redevelopment Agency Board
met in Closed Session for discussion of the Real Property Negotiations as
listed on the Agenda, but at the conclusion of the meeting they would recess
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back into Closed Session for more discussion. She indicated that there was
no reportable action at this time and she did not anticipate any tonight.
PUBLIC COMMENTS — AGENDIZED ITEMS
No comments.
CONSENT CALENDAR
MOVED BY KELLEY, SECONDED BY BUCKLEY AND CARRIED
BY UNANIMOUS VOTE TO APPROVE THE CONSENT
CALENDAR AS PRESENTED.
The following Minutes were approved:
(F:134.3)
a. City Council/Redevelopment Agency Study Session — December
9, 2004.
b. City Council/Redevelopment Agency Study Session — January 27,
2004.
c. Regular Redevelopment Agency Meeting — January 27, 2004.
2. Concurred with Council Action to Approve Tentative Parcel Map No.
29996, Mitigated Negative Declaration No. 2003 -04 and Design
Review of Industrial Project No. 12003-05. (F:110.2)
BUSINESS ITEMS
3. Establishment of Joint Study Session with RDA Committee.
(F:134.1)(X:44.1)
Chairman Hickman noted that it was discussed at the Study Session and the
Joint Study Session was scheduled for April 8, 2004 at 4:15 p.m. in City
Hall Conference Room A &B.
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MOVED BY KELLEY, SECONDED BY BUCKLEY AND CARRIED
BY UNANIMOUS VOTE TO CONDUCT A JOINT STUDY SESSION
IN CONFERENCE ROOM A &B AT CITY HALL AT 4:15 P.M. ON
APRIL 8, 2004.
PUBLIC COMMENTS — NON - AGENDIZED ITEMS — 3 MINUTES
No comments.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR COMMENTS
No comments.
LEGAL COUNSEL COMMENTS
No comments.
BOARDMEMBER COMMENTS
No comments.
ADJOURNMENT
MOVED BY SCHIFFNER, SECONDED BY BUCKLEY AND
CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE TO ADJOURN THE REGULAR
REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MEETING AT 9:15 P.M.
YL HICKMAN, CHAIRMAN
REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
Respectfully submitted,
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Frederick Ray, Deputy City Clerk
AT EST:
VICKI KASAD, CLERK OF THE BOARD
REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
MINUTES
JOINT CITY COUNCIL/REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
STUDY SESSION
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
183 NORTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA
TUESDAY, MARCH 9, 2004
CALL TO ORDER
Mayor Buckley called the Joint Study Session to order at 4:00 p.m.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: HICKMAN, KELLEY,
MAGEE, SCHIFFNER,
BUCKLEY
ABSENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: NONE
Also present were: City Manager Watenpaugh, Assistant City Manager
Best, City Attorney Leibold, Administrative Services Director Pressey,
Community Development Director Brady, Community Services Director
Sapp, Lake & Aquatic Resources Director Kilroy, Information/
Communications Manager Dennis, Public Works Manager Payne and
Deputy City Clerk Ray.
DISCUSSION ITEMS
City Attorney Leibold indicated there were two items for closed session.
Real Property Negotiations with properties involved in the Wasson Canyon
Investments Agreement; participating parties were Wasson Canyon
Investments, Southshore, and City of Lake Elsinore.
2. Anticipated litigation under section 54956.9 (1 case).
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Consent Calendar
Minutes — Councilman Magee commented on Item 1 d page 4 of 16 that
Donna Lucas indicated she had a petition that had been signed by 80% of the
merchants, noting they had a different vision for the downtown district. He
inquired about the whereabouts of that petition.
City Manager Watenpaugh commented that the petition had not been
presented to the City Manager's Office and asked Deputy City Clerk Ray if
it had been presented to the City Clerk's Office.
Deputy City Clerk Ray commented he would follow up with the City Clerk.
Councilman Magee noted that the minutes stated clearly she indicated she
had a petition and he did not remember her saying those words exactly. So
he marveled if the minutes were recorded correctly or if she had misspoken,
but if there was a petition it needed to be given to the Council.
Councilman Schiffner agreed with Councilman Magee that if there was a
petition it needed to be presented to Council.
City Manager Watenpaugh commented that Staff would review the audio
tape of the minutes and if there was a petition, staff would request it from
Mrs. Lucas.
2. Warrant List — Councilman Hickman requested clarification for various
checks issued from Item No. 2, the Warrant List. Staff clarified the checks
in question.
Councilman Magee requested clarification on check #76814 issued from
Item No. 2, the Warrant List. Staff clarified the check in question. He also
inquired about a settlement with Mr. Molendyk (former City Manager),
noting that he had not seen that check.
City Manager Watenpaugh commented that the check had been issued to the
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City and Staff had provided copies for individuals that had requested copies
of the check.
Councilman Magee informed Staff that he would like a copy of that check.
City Manager Watenpaugh indicated a copy would be provided to
Councilman Magee.
Mayor Buckley requested clarification on check #76803 issued from Item
No. 2, the Warrant List. Staff clarified the check in question.
3. Investment Report- January, 2004 — No comments.
4. Resolution No. 2004 -15 — Supporting the United States Troops &
Commander -in- Chief.
No comments.
5. Deposit & Reimbursement Agreement between the City and Laing -CP Lake
Elsinore, LLC.
No comments.
6. Bid Award for Motor Control Centers — Brewster Electric - $65,292.
Mayor Buckley asked if the price was in the ball park of what Staff had
wanted.
Lake & Aquatic Resources Director Kilroy confirmed it was in range.
Councilman Hickman inquired regarding the budget for the Lake Project.
Lake & Aquatic Resources Director Kilroy indicated the total budget was
$1.2 million for reimbursement and the City had accumulated $850,000, in
expenses.
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Councilman Magee inquired on an estimated time of deliver for this item.
Lake & Aquatic Resources Director Kilroy explained that the axial flow
pump module frames would probably be completed by March 19, 2004, after
the frames were completed they would need to conduct a test of the floats,
the decking, and the gear box pump; which should be available by mid
April. The submarine power cables will be delivered in mid - April. He
indicated there may be a delay due to the shop drawing which was not
exactly correct on the docking stations, so two weeks were lost on that issue,
and the estimated operation time was the end of June 2004.
7. Service Agreement for Pest Control of City Facilities — Robbins Pest
Management $2,640 /year.
City Manager Watenpaugh inquired if Morton Pest Control would be
attending the 7:00 p.m. Council Meeting.
Public Works Manager Payne indicated he was not sure, but Mr. Morton
indicated to him last week that he would probably contest the low bid and he
would be attending the meeting. The reason for challenge was based on his
interpretation of the specifications as outlined in the staff report, page 7 of
15 (scope of work) Item 1. Mr. Payne commented that Morton Pest Control
bid using a truck mounted gas sprayer. He indicated he met with the low
bidder and walked the stadium, who guaranteed him he could do it for the
price he bid. He would be using power spray backpack units to spray the
stadium. Staff recommendation was to award the bid to Robbins Pest
Control.
8. 2003/2004 Equipment Replacement Program- Tractors -Cook Equipment -
$3,251.50 monthly lease.
City Manager Watenpaugh deferred to Public Works Manager Payne.
Public Works Manager Payne explained the equipment was for the weed
abatement program. He noted there was a bid opening and three companies
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submitted bid packages (Johnson Machinery, Cook Equipment, and
Powerland Equipment). He noted Johnson Machinery had the lowest bid,
but did not meet the specifications. Cook Equipment had the second lowest
bid and they did not request any exceptions to the bid. Powerland
Equipment had the third lowest bid and was requesting that Cook Equipment
be disqualified based on them not meeting the bid specifications. They had
four issues which Staff reviewed and felt the issues were not significant
enough to disqualify the bid.
Councilman Magee complimented Public Works Manager Payne on his
thoroughness in reviewing this bid award. He noted he was comfortable
with accepting Staff's recommendation. He inquired on the deliver time for
the tractors.
Public Works Manager Payne indicated the maximum deliver time was three
months, but he was informed by all three bidders, that if they could locate a
tractor at another dealership, the deliver time would be sooner.
Mayor Pro Tem Kelley asked Public Works Manager Payne to explain the
disagreement Powerland Equipment had regarding the specifications.
Public Works Manager Payne indicated the four issues Powerland had were
the gear range of the tractor, hydraulic system, mower, and the weight of the
mower. He confirmed that these issues were insignificant.
Councilman Schiffner asked if Powerland Equipment met the specifications.
Public Works Manager Payne confirmed they met the specifications.
Councilman Schiffner indicated that it seemed as though Powerland might
have some legal grounds.
City Manager Watenpaugh indicated that if Council was more comfortable
with going with a higher price that was a decision for the Council, however
Staffs recommendation was the middle bid that would meet all of the
requirements at a lower cost and would be much more effective and efficient
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then just spending the extra dollars; as there were no significant difference in
terms of the performance. He also indicated that he spoke with Assistant
City Attorney Mann and Community Services Director Sapp and they were
comfortable with accepting the middle bid.
City Attorney Leibold explained that the standard was whether or not the
discrepancies were material or nonmaterial. Material variation from the
specification would disqualify the bid. Nonmaterial or insignificant
variations would not. It was Staff's opinion that the differences Powerland
pinpointed were nonmaterial to the performance requested.
Councilman Schiffner expressed his concern that Powerland would respond;
and if they had bid equipment at the lower ratios, they could have bid lower.
City Attorney Leibold noted there was a small variation between the prices.
City Manager Watenpaugh noted that the bid specifications stipulated if
there were any questions to contact the Public Works Department.
9. Bid Award — Asphalt Maintenance — Hardy & Harper - $72,000.
Mayor Buckley inquired if Hardy & Harper had ever done any paving for
the City in the past or if any of the other bidders had done so in the past.
Public Works Manager Payne indicated that Hardy & Harper had not done
any work for the City in the past, but indicated that Nelson Paving &
Grading had the City's last contract and for the past two years had been
performing the pavement maintenance.
City Manager Watenpaugh confirmed with Public Works Manager Payne
that all of the bid packages were semi - overseen by finance through the new
purchasing process and reviewed by the City Attorney.
Public Works Manager Payne confirmed that was correct.
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Councilman Hickman requested clarification that they would be on call for
the City.
Public Works Manager Payne confirmed that was correct. He explained it
was on a work order basis for maintenance activities. He noted that the
contract was a one year contract with the option to rebid after one year.
10. Bid Award — Contract for Curb, Gutter & Sidewalk Maintenance — NPG
Corporation - $6,750.
No comments.
11. Bid Award — Contract for Unpaved Road Maintenance — Hardy & Harper -
$5,920.
Councilman Hickman inquired if unpaved roads were the processed by
grading them.
Public Works Manager Payne confirmed that was correct.
PUBLIC HEARING
21. Tentative Tract Map 32008 — Lakeshore Village Specific Plan — Corman
Leigh Communities.
No Comments.
22. Tentative Parcel Map No. 31963, "Pasadena Business Park II" — Triple J
Development.
Mayor Pro Tem Kelley inquired on the leases within the business park.
City Manager Watenpaugh indicated that most of the spaces were leased
prior to them finishing each section.
23. General Plan Amendment No. 2003 -03, Zone Change No. 1003 -02,
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Tentative Condominium Map No. 31532, Residential Design Review No. R
2003 -15 and Mitigated Negative Declaration No. 2004 -01 for the "Lake
Elsinore City Center Townhomes" Phase II — Resolution No. 2004 -16 &
Ordinance No. 1117.
City Attorney Leibold indicated there had been ongoing discussion with the
developer and their attorneys and there were a couple of outstanding issues
with respect to the conditions; staff and the developer both requested a
continuance to the next regularly scheduled meeting.
Business Items
31. Second Reading - Ordinance No. 1115 - CFD 2003 -1 Annexations 5 and 6.
No comments.
32. Request from Volunteer Fire Department — Thermal Imaging Camera.
No comments.
33. Public Safety Advisory Commission — Ordinance No. 1116.
Bill Titto, indicated that he had read the ordinance and wanted to inquire
on the Police, Fire, and Code Enforcement. He questioned if the Code
Enforcement would be the Police Department and/or Code Enforcement.
He indicated that Lake Elsinore's Code Enforcement was different than
other cities.
City Manager Watenpaugh explained that the Mayor and Council had
requested during the Public Safety Study Session that Staff include Public
Safety, Police, and Fire as well as City Code Enforcement in terms of
recommendations.
Mr. Titto asked who would be taking care of traffic.
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City Manager Watenpaugh explained the traffic would be through the
Police Department and parking would be through Code Enforcement.
Mr. Titto indicated there were problems with speed control on Machado
Street. He noted that it was low priority for the Police Department. He
further indicated from Lincoln Street to Grand Avenue there were no stop
signs or signals.
City Manager Watenpaugh explained that the City Council held a Study
Session on the issue, and appointed a subcommittee of Councilman Magee,
Mayor Buckley and City Manager Watenpaugh to review the existing
Municipal Code Section: He indicated Mayor Buckley and Councilman
Magee had some modifications to the duties and responsibilities that would
be discussed later at the evening session and subject to Council ratification
of those duties it would change the existing Municipal Code and Council
would appoint five members for the first term.
Councilman Magee commented that hopefully the Commission would be
an additional set of eyes and ears not only for Council but for the citizens
to focus more attention on public safety.
Councilman Hickman suggested eliminating 42 of Section 2.46.030
(membership). He did not think the owner of a business or an owner's
"designee" that was establish or currently licensed within the City should
be added, it should only include residents of the City.
Councilman Schiffner noted that there were many business owners in the
City that did not reside in the City; that had a much bigger interest in
public safety than some individuals that resided in the City. He felt that it
was very important to involve business owners.
Councilman Hickman suggested forming a district and reiterated
eliminating the business owners.
Mayor Buckley commented that another issue the Commission would
work on was disaster preparedness.
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Mayor Pro Tern Kelley noted that Lieutenant Featherolf, at a previous
Study Session, made the comment that in disasters, citizen committees
often became a problem for the emergency personnel and she appreciated
the way Item F was written.
Councilman Magee commented that he hoped the Commission would
review the current procedures, in terms of disaster preparedness and if
changes or additions needed to be made they could make
recommendations.
City Manager Watenpaugh requested clarification that under Section
2.46.030 (membership) the business owner or business owner "designee"
had to be a registered voter in the City.
Mayor Buckley discussed the issue with Councilmembers and agreed to
remove being a registered voter in the City as a requirement.
Mayor Pro Tem Kelley inquired about the background check on selected
individuals. She suggested speaking with Police Chief Walsh regarding
what type of background check should be done.
Councilman Magee noted the importance of a background check, but
questioned involving Police Chief Walsh who had indicated at a July,
2002, Council Meeting, that he did not want this Commission and did not
think it was necessary. He noted he was not comfortable with doing so.
He suggested including the following statement: Applicants may be
subject to a background check by the local Police Department and subject
to approval by the City Council.
City Manager Watenpaugh suggested Council might want each applicant
to submit a short resume or some type of background of their experience.
He noted there was more information on the Planning Commission than on
Councilmembers. He noted there was no biography on Councilmembers.
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Councilman Schiffner indicated he was concerned with the Mayor
selecting the Chairman and Vice Chairman. He felt those seats should be
chosen by the group after they had been selected.
Mayor Buckley indicated he was going to select the Chairman.
Mayor Pro Tern Kelley indicated that she heard the Chairperson had
already been selected before the Agenda Review. She commented that
before the Council had the opportunity to consider what they were
forming, she was approached and told this was already a "done deal ". She
reminded everyone it was not a "done deal" until the 7 p.m. Council
Meeting when three of the five members voted, but if the Chairperson had
already been appointed and told they were appointed that was not a good
thing for the community and that was not the way Council operated.
Councilman Schiffner commented the Public Safety Commission was a
permanent committee like the Planning Commission and should be
handled that way. He indicated the Public Safety Commission was not a
Mayor's Committee it was a permanent committee and should be handled
as such.
Councilman Hickman commented they would need guidance in the
beginning and suggested the commission select their own Chairman after
one year.
Mayor Buckley indicated the point was to help get things started.
Councilman Magee mentioned the membership issue, he requested adding,
appointees shall be subject to a background check administered by the
Lake Elsinore Police Department and approved by the City Council.
34. Mayor's Committee /Country Club Heights.
Mayor Buckley commented that the February 19, 2004, Study Session for
Country Club Heights went extremely well with a turnout of 219 property
owners and residents of the Country Club Heights area.
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Mayor Pro Tern Kelley indicated due to the complexity of the issues in the
area, she would suggest involving the same consultants since they have
already studied the area.
Councilman Schiffner commented that Council needed to establish what
they wanted the committee to do. He further commented that Council
should ask the committee what they wanted to accomplish, not how it was
done; and bring it back to Council, then Staff and consultants could put
together a plan that would accomplish what the residents and land owners
in that area wanted.
City Manager Watenpaugh indicated that Council needed to set tasks and
review and extend if they wished, but Council needed to give the
committee that guidance.
35. Draft Goals for City Manager.
City Manager Watenpaugh indicated that he had redone the form and it
was pointed out to him when he had asked Staff to retype the goals, Staff
pulled one extra paragraph; he put that extra paragraph back in. He further
indicated that it was a combination of Council preamble and Councilman
Magee's post statement. He distributed the information to Council.
Councilman Magee indicated that at some point the paragraph needed to be
read into the record.
36. Status Report- Western Riverside County MSHCP.
City Attorney Leibold commented that she would be giving a verbal
report. She indicated there was some new information and preferred to
give the report at the 7:00 p.m. Council Meeting. She noted that the City
of Lake Elsinore Representative (Councilman Schiffner) was denied a vote
at the RCA meeting held the day before.
Councilman Schiffner confirmed he was denied the right to vote. He
indicated that particular board was the board which made the decision in
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accepting the City's exception to the MSHCP. He indicated they had not
given it any consideration and had not answered any correspondence from
the City. He noted that the City was considered nonconforming at this
time.
Councilman Magee inquired if all members of the Board of Supervisors
were at the meeting.
Councilman Schiffner confirmed they were all present.
REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
Chairman Hickman gave an overview of the RDA Agenda.
Legal Counsel Leibold indicated there was one item of Closed Session, Real
Property Negotiations for the Stadium.
Consent Calendar
No comments.
BUSINESS ITEMS
No comments.
ADJOURNMENT
THE JOINT CITY COUNCIL/REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
MEETING WAS ADJOURNED AT 5:15 P.M.
THOMAS BUC)KLEY, MAYOR
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
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ARYL HICKMAN, CHAIRMAN
REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
Respectfully submitted,
mac/
Frederick R y, Deputy City Clerk
T:
7
VICKI KASAD, CMC, CITY CLERK/
HUMAN RESOURCES DIRECTOR
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
MINUTES
REGULAR REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MEETING
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
183 NORTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA
TUESDAY, MARCH 9, 2004
................................................ ..............................I
CALL TO ORDER
The Regular Redevelopment Agency Meeting was called to order by Chairman
Hickman at 5:16 p.m.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: BOARDMEMBERS: BUCKLEY, KELLEY,
MAGEE, SCHIFFNER,
HICKMAN
ABSENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: NONE
Also present were: Executive Director Watenpaugh, Assistant Executive
Director Best, Legal Counsel Leibold, Administrative Services Director
Pressey, Community Development Director Brady, Community Services
Director Sapp, Lake & Aquatic Resources Director Kilroy, Information/
Communications Manager Dennis, Public Works Manager Payne, City
Treasurer Weber and Clerk of the Board Kasad
CLOSED SESSION
A. CONFERENCE WITH REAL PROPERTY NEGOTIATOR
(Government Code § 54965.8)
Property: A.P.N. 373-210-040 & 371-030-021 (Lake
Elsinore Diamond Stadium and parking lot)
Negotiating Parties: Impact Capital consulting, L.L.C. and
The Redevelopment Agency of the City of Lake Elsinore
Under Negotiation: Price and Terms
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Legal Counsel Leibold announced the Closed Session discussion item as listed
above.
THE REGULAR REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MEETING WAS
RECESSED TO CLOSED SESSION AT 5:18 P.M.
The Closed Session discussion was completed at 6:55 p.m.
RECONVENE IN PUBLIC SESSION (7:00 P.M.)
Chairman Hickman reconvened the Regular Redevelopment Agency Meeting in
Public Session at 10:01 p.m.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: BOARDMEMBERS:
ABSENT: COUNCILMEMBERS:
BUCKLEY,KELLEY,
MAGEE, SCHIFFNER,
HICKMAN
NONE
Also present were: Executive Director Watenpaugh, Assistant Executive
Director Best, Legal Counsel Leibold, Administrative Services Director
Pressey, Community Development Director Brady, Community Services
Director Sapp, Lake & Aquatic Resources Director Kilroy, Police Chief
Walsh, Engineering Manager Seumalo, Information /Communications
Manager Dennis, Planning Manager Villa, Public Works Manager Payne,
City Treasurer Weber and Clerk of the Board Kasad
CLOSED SESSION REPORT
Legal Counsel Leibold announced that the Redevelopment Agency Board met in
Closed Session, and while there was no reportable action, there was a draft
agreement on which Impact was commented, which would be presented in Closed
Session at the next regular meeting.
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PUBLIC COMMENTS — NON - AGENDIZED ITEMS —1 MINUTE
No Comments.
CONSENT CALENDAR
MOVED BY SCHIFFNER, SECONDED BY MAGEE AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR AS
PRESENTED, WITH THE EXCEPTION THAT BOARDMEMBER
BUCKLEY ABSTAINED FROM VOTE IN ITEM NO.4 TO BE
CONSISTENT WITH HIS VOTE ON THE CITY COUNCIL AGENDA.
The following Minutes were approved:
a. Regular Redevelopment Agency Meeting — February 24, 2004.
(F:134.3)
2. Ratified the Warrant List for February 26, 2004. (F:12.3)
Received and ordered filed the Investment Report for January, 2004.
(F:12.5)
4. Concurred with Council Action to approve Tentative Tract Map No. 32008
for the Lakeshore Village Specific Plan. (This item carried by a vote of 4 to
0 with Boardmember Buckley abstaining from vote.) (F:160.2)
Concurred with Council Action to approve Tentative Parcel Map No. 31963
for Pasadena Business Park II. (F:110.2)
BUSINESS ITEMS
None.
PUBLIC COMMENTS — NON - AGENDIZED ITEMS — 3 MINUTES
No Comments.
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EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR COMMENTS
No Comments.
LEGAL COUNSEL COMMENTS
No Comments.
BOARDMEMBER COMMENTS
No Comments.
ADJOURNMENT
THE REGULAR REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MEETING WAS
ADJOURNED AT 10:04 P.M.
L HICKMAN, CHAIRMAN
REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
ATTEST:
CKI KASAD, CLERK OF THE BOARD
REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
MINUTES
JOINT CITY COUNCIL/REDEVELOPMENT
AGENCY/PUBLIC FINANCE AUTHORITY
STUDY SESSION
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
183 NORTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA
TUESDAY, MARCH 23, 2004
CALL TO ORDER
Mayor Buckley called the Joint Study Session to order at 4:00 p.m.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: HICKMAN, KELLEY,
MAGEE, SCHIFFNER,
BUCKLEY
ABSENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: NONE
Also present were: City Manager Watenpaugh, Assistant City Manager
Best, City Attorney Leibold, Administrative Services Director Pressey,
Community Development Director Brady, Community Services Director
Sapp, Lake & Aquatic Resources Director Kilroy, Information/
Communications Manager Dennis, Parks & Open Space Manager Fazzio
and Deputy City Clerk Ray.
DISCUSSION ITEMS
City Attorney Leibold indicated there was one item for closed session.
1. Real Property Negotiations with properties involved in the Wasson Canyon
Investments Agreement; participating parties were Wasson Canyon
Investments, Southshore, and City of Lake Elsinore.
She indicated that a Special Notice had been issued for 5:00 pm, to discuss
Elsinore Christian Center in closed session.
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Consent Calendar
1. Minutes — Councilman Hickman commented on Item lb page 16 of 23 that
there was a typo.
Mayor Buckley commented on Item lc page 32 of 65 item 23 at the bottom
of the page to add the statement — "a continuance of this item ".
He also indicated there was a typo on page 46 of 65 second paragraph eighth
line down. He noted that on page 48 of 65 the first line that he was not
questioning if the City was run better than it use to be, the question was, if it
was run well enough.
2. Warrant List — Councilman Magee requested clarification for various checks
issued from Item No. 2, the Warrant List. Staff clarified the checks in
question.
Councilman Magee requested clarification on check #77067 Powerland
Equipment for $14,990. Lake & Aquatic Resources Director Kilroy
explained that was for the mowing of the back basin levee slope. He
commented they had problems for years trying to have that mowed and the
brush was very heavy. Councilman Magee inquired if the equipment was
actually purchased. Mr. Kilroy indicated the equipment was not purchased
the fee was just for the mowing on the steep slope. Councilman Schiffner
inquired how often that slope would need to be mowed. Mr. Kilroy
explained that in the 90's there was difficulty maintaining that slope; and
there were bids of over $40,000 to do it by hand. He commented there was
test cutting this year to ensure the equipment used would work. City
Manager Watenpaugh noted this item was presented to Council at a previous
Council Meeting for authorization to fund and contract the item. Mr. Kilroy
indicated that it was part of the mid -year budget review.
Councilman Hickman requested clarification for various checks issued from
Item No. 2, the Warrant List. Staff clarified the checks in question.
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Mayor Buckley requested clarification for various checks issued from Item
No. 2, the Warrant List. Staff clarified the checks in question.
3. Resolution initiating proceedings and approving the Engineer's Report for
the annexation of certain Territory known as the Amended Pepper Grove
Tract into the City of Lake Elsinore Landscape and Street Lighting District
No. 1, as LLMD Annexation No.2.
Administrative Services Director Pressey commented that the developer
came in after the Engineer's Report had been published and adjusted the
square footage of the Landscaped area that was to be assessed; there were
some numbers that had changed. Mr. Pressey offered to read the numbers or
provide Council with a revised copy. He noted they were adding 360 sq.ft.
at 32 cents a square foot and increased by $300. The first number change
was on page 13 of 20 from 22,300 sq.ft. to 22,560 sq.ft.
Mayor Buckley inquired if the item needed to be pulled from the consent
calendar.
City Attorney Leibold explained that the change could be noted in the
motion on consent, but it did not need to be pulled.
4. Resolution of Intention to Establish CFD No. 2004 -1 (City Center
Townhomes).
Councilman Hickman requested clarification that they were asking for a $5
million CFD. Administrative Services Director Pressey explained that it was
not to exceed $5 million. Mayor Buckley requested clarification that it was
for phase 1 and 2. Mr. Pressey confirmed that it was for phase 1 and 2.
Councilman Hickman suggested a $ 2 million CFD. Mr. Pressey
commented that the $5 million gave "wiggle" room. Mr. Pressey indicated
that it would be issued for $2 million, but the not to exceed amount was
normally rounded a lot higher than was actually needed.
Councilman Magee indicated that Phase 1 had been approved and Phase 2
was going before Council that evening and also the CFD, it seemed as
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though Council and Staff was handling this project different than Laing
Homes and requested clarification as to why. He was told that policy was
the CFD could go first and he was more comfortable with items coming
either at the same time or land use decisions being made before those types
of decisions were made. City Manager Watenpaugh indicated that there was
discussion about possibly pulling this item and bringing it all back at one
time. The intent was partly because the developer apparently was moving to
finance and sell the project. Councilman Magee reiterated that he needed
clarification as to why this project was being handled differently than Laing
two weeks ago. Administrative Services Director Pressey explained that two
weeks ago for Laing Homes it was a Deposit and Reimbursement
Agreement; the developer provided $50,000 towards the cost of researching
the feasibility. He explained for the City Center Townhomes Project that
was approved by Council around the beginning of February, 2004.
Councilman Magee noted according to the staff report it was January, 2004,
but Phase 1 of this project would have been approved before January, 2004.
Mr. Pressey confirmed. Councilman Magee reiterated the land use approval
came first before any action on the CFD. City Manager Watenpaugh
commented that part of that was driven by the developer. Councilman
Magee explained that he brought up the issue because two weeks ago he was
told there was a specific policy. City Attorney Leibold explained the policy
as she recalled dealt with CFD's and what needed to be in place prior to
bonds being issued and the maximum amount of the special tax.
5. CEQA Compliance Documents.
Councilman Magee commented that Albert Webb & Associates had an
outstanding reputation in the County.
City Manager Watenpaugh commented that the normal process was
that staff went ahead and brought in a consultant, but due to the amount of
money and the questions in terms of spending, staff thought it was important
to bring it forward to Council to review.
Councilman Magee inquired about the time schedule and if the process had
already started. Community Development Director Brady commented that
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since it was a cost recovery, the City controlled it rather than having the
applicant control the consultant to prepare the environmental document,
which was a City document and they then deposited the money with the
City and the City reviews and controls the documents. He noted under the
new policy staff brought it back to the City Council for approval due to the
amount, so the schedule would be revised.
6. Assignment and Assumption of Development Agreement from Como at
Tuscany Hills Corporation to Pulte Home Corporation.
Councilman Magee commented that there was a typographical error in the
staff report regarding the tract number.
PUBLIC HEARING
21. General Plan Amendment No. 2003 -03
Mayor Buckley commented he was driving by the townhomes built near the
Lowe's in Murrieta and indicated that they were on top of each other.
Mayor Pro Tern Kelley commented that they were originally supposed to
had been apartments that turned into townhomes, so basically you really
have an apartment product. She also commented that across the freeway in
Murrieta some of the others were built specifically for condos and the layout
was different. Community Development Director Brady commented that the
topography variation on the site would also break up the clustering effect.
Councilman Hickman inquired if the City charged on the formula for low
and moderate income houses. City Attorney Leibold explained that
redevelopment law required the Agency to produce affordable housing
within the redevelopment project area boundaries equal to 15% of all newly
constructed dwelling units. It did not mean that each project had to put 15%
aside. She noted what she had encouraged and worked with the Community
Development Department to do was for residential projects that were within
redevelopment project area boundaries to include a requirement so there
was a fair share of participation being contributed to the Agency for low and
moderate income housing fund. Councilman Hickman inquired about the
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$1.30 per square foot. City Attorney Leibold explained it was a negotiated
number, because there was no City Ordinance at this time to address the
issue. Councilman Hickman suggested something more standardized. City
Attorney Leibold concurred.
BUSINESS ITEMS
31. Second Reading- Ordinance No. 1116 — Public Safety Advisory
Commission.
Councilman Magee noted there was a typographical error under Section
2.46.030 last sentence. He indicated there was an issue with the language in
2.46.040 and 2.46.050 relative to the term of office and deferred to City
Attorney Leibold. City Attorney Leibold indicated staff needed
clarification, the item as it was presented in the agenda packet provided for
the Mayor to designate the initial Chairman and Vice Chairman and the
terms would run through July 1, 2005; through discussion at the Council
Meeting the provision in 2.46.040 was revised so the Mayor was selecting
only the initial Chairman and the Vice Chair would be selected from a
majority of the membership of the Commission. She believed what the
Council intended was the office of the initial Chair would run through
December 31, 2004, but what they failed to do when making the revision to
2.46.040 was to pick up the revision necessary in 2.46.050 for it to make
sense.
Councilman Schiffner indicated that there was a paragraph that was left out
indicating they would make their recommendations in writing to the City
Council. Mayor Buckley noted that 2.46.060 E, stated the Commission
should report to the Council on a regular basis. Councilman Schiffner
indicated that was the only part that indicated the Council was involved. He
commented any report the Commission had should come to the Council.
Section E. only stated they would report to Council on a regular basis.
Councilman Magee suggested including: The Commission may report to
Council at any time, but not less than once per quarter. Councilman
Schiffner agreed with including the statement.
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32. Acceptance of Planning Commission Resignation -John Barnes.
Councilman Magee indicated that he was told last week that Mr. Barnes had
already moved out of town and requested clarification. City Manager
Watenpaugh commented that he would be a resident until April 7, 2004.
Councilman Magee noted Mr. Barnes' letter stated he would continue
through the April 6, 2004 Planning Commission Hearing. Councilman
Magee commented if he had already moved, he did not feel it was
appropriate for Mr. Barnes to be a Commissioner for a vote on anything; and
he was told last night the Laing Project would be on the April 6, 2004,
agenda. Community Development Director Brady indicated Mr. Barnes was
in City Hall earlier and he understood Mr. Barnes to still be living at his
home. He noted Mr. Barnes had been one of the most ethical and
outstanding Commissioners and did not think he would sit on a Commission
if he was not still living in the City. Mayor Pro Tern Kelley commented that
the letter indicated "as of April 9, 2004 ".
33. Ordinance No. 1118 - Amending LEMC Section 6.04.020.
Mayor Buckley indicated there was a representative from Animal Friends of
the Valley that would like to speak on the item.
Anne Washington, Animal Friends of the Valley, indicated that they were
requesting the Council increase the dog license by five dollars. She noted
during meeting that was held between the four cities it was suggested that all
the cities had the same fee structures for their licenses. The City of Lake
Elsinore was the schedule they chose to follow with the exception that the
altered animal license be raised from ten dollars to fifteen dollars for one
year. She noted from January until now the City would have had an increase
of $8,500 in revenue; the revenue offsets the dollar amount the City pays
for animal services.
Councilman Schiffner inquired about the fees for seniors. Mrs. Washington
noted the fee for seniors would not change.
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34. Ten Year Extension for Tree Trimming Agreement.
Councilman Hickman inquired about the ten year extension.
Parks & Open Space Manager Fazzio explained that the City would be able
to keep the prices for ten years with no increase at $41.00 per tree.
City Manager Watenpaugh noted page 7 of 13 Item 11, gave the City the
opportunity to terminate if they were not meeting the needs and the contract
would come back annually for Council review.
Councilman Magee requested clarification that the contract could be
cancelled by the City Manager or majority of the Council at anytime. Mr.
Fazzio confirmed.
Councilman Magee clarified that work was going to be authorized by staff,
budget approved by Council annually and an annual review of the
performance. City Manager Watenpaugh confirmed.
35. Records Access /Copy Expense.
No comments.
36. Memorial Honoring Bill "Whiskers" Tucker.
City Manager Watenpaugh indicated the family should be attending the
evening Council Meeting. He indicated that the Council had not decided
what type of memorial. Mayor Buckley inquired if the family wanted the
Cove or the Beach. City Manager Watenpaugh indicated that staff had not
discussed the issue with the family, they had requested in the petition the
north fishing beach. City Manager Watenpaugh suggested a bronze plaque
similar to the one given to Mr. Vasquez. Councilman Schiffner suggested
including a small catfish head on the plaque, since Mr. Tucker received so
much prominence from that. Councilman Magee suggested clearing that
idea with the family so as not to offend anyone.
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Councilman Hickman suggested putting the memorial plaque in the park
where the City had more control to prevent graffiti. Councilman Magee
reiterated the family requested the location.
37. Amendment to Land Development Agreement, Temporary Land Transfer
Agreement and Irrevocable Escrow Instructions with Wasson Canyon
Investments, L.P.
City Attorney Leibold indicated that this was the agreement Council
approved in November that was discussed under real property negotiations
in the past couple of meetings. She noted this was one of the last troubled
CFD's and the temporary transfer of the title to the City to allow the County
to release certain property tax, penalties and interest and the security of the
City to ensure it was paid under the terms of the agreement.
38. Lake Elsinore Management Plan.
City Manager Watenpaugh indicated he had a written request from John
Laing Homes to have the item deferred and brought back at the time
Council reviewed the entire project.
Michael Filler, John Laing Homes, indicated that they had worked out some
mitigation measures to modify the existing permit and reissue the permit.
The Army Corps of Engineers requested the three copermitees be on the
same page with the items per the mitigation plan and that was the purpose
for the request that letters were sent out.
39. Multi- Species Habitat Conservation Plan Update.
Mayor Buckley commented on April 12, 2004 at 2 p.m. at the County
Counsel's Office they were making two Supervisors and their staff available
to meet with himself, Councilman Schiffner and Staff. He indicated that the
first letter page 5 of 35 of the staff report second paragraph second sentence
he wanted out of the letter. City Attorney Leibold noted that the following
sentence would not coincide with the letter. Mayor Buckley continued to the
second letter page 35 of 35 of the staff report second paragraph, third line
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would need to be removed. He also indicated that in the fifth paragraph, last
sentence needed to be reworded.
Councilman Schiffher indicated that the last meeting the RCA had they
violated the Brown Act by making changes in their direction after the
meeting and included it on the next agenda; and noted he was not happy with
the way they were doing things.
Councilman Magee indicated that the development community had a
problem now that the City Council approved the MSHCP. He noted for two
months the County had done nothing and ignored the City of Lake Elsinore.
He commented that the reason Supervisor Tavaglione and Supervisor Ashley
were involved was due to lack of assistance from the First District. He
commented Mr. Sauls who represented 15 developers in the area could not
move forward. He indicated the County stated they would help calculate
and move forward and for two months had done nothing and told our City
Attorney they were not going to do anything. He noted the City was now in
a tight spot along with Mr. Sauls and his clients and City staff. He
commented the Council needed to provide direction.
Councilman Schiffner commented that the County indicated to him they had
no intentions of answering the City; it was not their job anymore. City
Manager Watenpaugh clarified that was told to the RCA Board.
Councilman Schiffner indicated that at the last meeting Supervisor Buster
made a motion to have the issue put on next month's agenda.
REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
Chairman Hickman gave an overview of the RDA Agenda.
Legal Counsel Leibold indicated there was one item of Closed Session, Real
Property Negotiations for the Stadium.
Consent Calendar
No comments.
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BUSINESS ITEMS
No comments.
PUBLIC FINANCE AUTHORITY
Chairman Magee gave an overview of the PFA Agenda.
Consent Calendar
No comments.
ADJOURNMENT
THE JOINT CITY COUNCIL/REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY/PUBLIC
FINANCE AUTHORITY MEETING WAS ADJOURNED AT 5:30 P.M.
,MAYOR
CITY OF
?ARYL HICKMAN, CHAIRMAN
REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
PAGE TWELVE -STUDY SESSION -MARCH 23, 2004
Respectfully submitted,
Frederick Ray, Deputy City Clerk
ATTEST:
VICKI KASAD, CMC, CITY CLERK/
HUMAN RESOURCES DIRECTOR
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
MINUTES
REGULAR REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MEETING
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
183 NORTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA
TUESDAY, MARCH 23, 2004
CALL TO ORDER
The Regular Redevelopment Agency Meeting was called to order by Chairman
Hickman at 5:40 p.m.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: BOARDMEMBERS: BUCKLEY, KELLEY,
MAGEE, SCHIFFNER,
HICKMAN
ABSENT: BOARDMEMBERS: NONE
Also present were: Executive Director Watenpaugh, Assistant Executive
Director Best, Legal Counsel Leibold, Administrative Services Director
Pressey, Community Development Director Brady, Community Services
Director Sapp, Lake /Aquatic Resources Director Kilroy, Information/
Communications Manager Dennis, Parks & Open Space Manager Fazzio,
Recreation and Tourism Manager Fazzio, City Treasurer Weber and Clerk of
the Board Kasad.
CLOSED SESSION
A. CONFERENCE WITH REAL PROPERTY NEGOTIATOR
(Government Code § 54965.8) (17:40.1)(X:134.10)
Property: A.P.N. 373-210-040 & 371-030-021 (Lake
Elsinore Diamond Stadium and parking lot)
Negotiating Parties: Impact Stadium L.L.C. and
The Redevelopment Agency of the City of Lake Elsinore
Under Negotiation: Price and Terms
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Legal Counsel Leibold announced the Closed Session discussion item as listed
above.
THE REGULAR REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MEETING WAS
RECESSED TO CLOSED SESSION AT 5:41 P.M.
The Closed Session discussion was completed at 6:50 p.m.
RECONVENE IN PUBLIC SESSION (7:00 P.M.)
Chairman Hickman reconvened the Regular Redevelopment Agency Meeting in
public session at 9:40 p.m.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: BOARDMEMBERS: BUCKLEY, KELLEY,
MAGEE, SCHIFFNER,
HICKMAN
ABSENT: BOARDMEMBERS: NONE
Also present were: Executive Director Watenpaugh, Assistant Executive
Director Best, Legal Counsel Leibold, Administrative Services Director
Pressey, Community Development Director Brady, Community Services
Director Sapp, Fire Chief Gallegos, Lake /Aquatic Resources Director Kilroy,
Police Chief Walsh, Engineering Manager Seumalo, Information/
Communications Manager Dennis, Parks & Open Space Manager Fazzio,
Recreation and Tourism Manager Fazzio, City Treasurer Weber and Clerk of
the Board Kasad.
CLOSED SESSION REPORT
Legal Counsel Leibold reported that the Redevelopment Agency Board met in
Closed Session as listed on the agenda, with no reportable action.
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PUBLIC COMMENTS — NON - AGENDIZED ITEMS —1 MINUTE
No Comments.
CONSENT CALENDAR
The following item was pulled from the Consent Calendar for further discussion
and consideration:
Item No. 4.
MOVED BY KELLEY, SECONDED BY SCHIFFNER AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO APPROVE THE BALANCE OF THE CONSENT
CALENDAR AS PRESENTED.
The following Minutes were approved:
a. Regular Redevelopment Agency Meeting — March 9, 2004. (F:134.3)
2. Ratified Warrant List for March 15, 2004. (F:12.3)
Concurred with Council Action to Approve General Plan Amendment No.
2003 -03, Zone Change No. 2003 -02, Tentative Condominium Map No.
31532, Residential Design Review No. R 2003 -15 and Mitigated
Negative Declaration No. 2004 -01 for the "Lake Elsinore City Center
Townhomes" Phase II which was continued from March 9, 2004. (F:83.2)
ITEM PULLED FROM THE CONSENT CALENDAR
4. Affordable Housing Fee ee Agreement.(F:134.7)
Chairman Hickman noted that this item would work toward a program for
the Redevelopment Project Areas to provide for consistency among the
areas. Legal Counsel Leibold indicated that she would prepare that item for
consideration.
MOVED BY BUCKLEY, SECONDED BY SCHIFFNER AND CARRIED BY
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UNANIMOUS VOTE TO APPROVE THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING FEE
AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE OAK GROVE EQUITIES II AND THE
REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY.
BUSINESS ITEMS
None.
PUBLIC COMMENTS — NON - AGENDIZED ITEMS — 3 MINUTES
No Comments.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR COMMENTS
No Comments.
LEGAL COUNSEL COMMENTS
No Comments.
BOARDMEMBER COMMENTS
No Comments.
ADJOURNMENT
THE REGULAR REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MEETING WAS
ADJOURNED AT 9:41 P.M.
A TEST:
DARYL HICKMAN, CHAIRMAN
REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
VICKI KA AD, CMC, CLERK OF THE BOARD
REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
MINUTES
JOINT CITY COUNCIL/REDEVELOPMENT
AGENCY /PUBLIC FINANCE AUTHORITY
STUDY SESSION
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
183 NORTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA
TUESDAY, APRIL 13, 2004
CALL TO ORDER
Mayor Pro Tem Kelley called the Joint Study Session to order at 4:10 p.m.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: HICKMAN, KELLEY,
MAGEE, SCHIFFNER,
ABSENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: BUCKLEY
(Mayor Buckley arrived at
4:40 p.m.)
Also present were: City Manager Watenpaugh, Assistant City Manager
Best, City Attorney Leibold, Administrative Services Director Pressey,
Community Development Director Brady, Community Services Director
Sapp, Lake & Aquatic Resources Director Kilroy, Information/
Communications Manager Dennis, Public Works Manager Payne,
Recreation/Tourism Manager Fazzio, Parks & Open Space Manager
Fazzio and Deputy City Clerk Ray.
DISCUSSION ITEMS
City Attorney Leibold indicated there was one item for closed session.
1. Conference with Legal Counsel - Anticipated litigation (1 case).
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Presentations /Ceremonials
City Manager Watenpaugh noted that the Mayor would also be presenting Sav-
On Drug Store with Business of the Quarter.
Councilman Magee inquired on the Economic Development Presentation.
City Manager Watenpaugh explained that the Riverside County Economic
Development Agency took over sponsorship from the Riverside County School
District and was going to give a brief presentation of the types of services and
programs they offer.
Community Services Director Sapp noted Jerry Craig would be present for the
presentation.
Consent Calendar
Minutes — Councilman Hickman inquired if the RDA received the Lehr
Option. He indicated he had requested it be given to the RDA Committee.
City Manager Watenpaugh explained the RDA did not hold the option with the
Lehr's.
City Attorney Leibold explained that the Agency had no contractual interest in
the Lehr agreement at this point.
Councilman Hickman inquired on item If page 60 of 69 last paragraph, he
suggested using "bored" instead of "awed ".
Councilman Magee indicated on item lc page 6 of 54 there was a typo.
He also indicated item I page 2 of 14 there was discussion regarding the
Molendyk check and the minutes reflected that a copy of the check was
provided for individuals that requested a copy. He commented to the best of his
knowledge, no one received a copy of that check; he understood
PAGE THREE -STUDY SESSION -APRIL 13, 2004
the minutes reflected what was said at that time, but indicated he had not
received a copy of the check.
City Manager Watenpaugh indicated that in talking with Finance Manager
Magee, a copy of the check was made before it was deposited and given to
Edith Stafford; once the check was deposited staff did not have a copy. He
noted there was no copy of the check at City Hall, but he could provide
Councilman Magee with a copy of everything that staff had regarding the
deposit; he reiterated there was no copy of the actual check at City Hall.
Councilman Magee noted there was a typo on item 1 f page 65 of 69.
2. Warrant List — Councilman Magee requested clarification for various checks
issued from Item No. 2, the Warrant List. Staff clarified the checks in
question.
Councilman Hickman requested clarification for various checks issued from
Item No. 2, the Warrant List. Staff clarified the checks in question.
3. Proclamation -Crime Victims' Week.
No comments.
4. Claim against the City.
No comments.
5. CFD for City Center Townhomes Phase II.
No comments.
6. CEQA compliance documents for Home Depot.
Councilman Magee inquired if staff policy or procedure was to allow the
developer to select their own environmental consultant; and then the City
PAGE FOUR -STUDY SESSION -APRIL 13, 2004
issue the request for proposal and review that company's response or did the
City have a list of preferred vendors.
City Manager Watenpaugh explained that through Duane Morita, contract
Environmental Coordinator, HDR had done most of the City in house work
as a contractor. The applicant paid the fee and staff was in control as
opposed to having the developer actually use their own environmental
specialist.
Community Development Director Brady commented that the applicant
might have someone review the report.
Councilman Magee clarified that on any particular project, Mr. Morita
selected based on his experience; which consultant was appropriate for this
particular type of project and then he request they prepare a proposal and if
he deemed it acceptable it then came to Council for approval.
Community Development Director Brady confirmed that was basically
correct.
Councilman Magee indicated that he had reviewed Mr. Morita's contract
and it seemed as though the City had placed a lot of authority; and felt that
was something Council and staff might want to review again. He indicated
that he preferred to keep the money in the City or in Riverside County
before sending opportunities to other Counties.
Community Development Director Brady clarified that it was other City
staff as well, Mr. Morita did not make the sole decision.
Councilman Magee indicated his contract stated he was responsible for it
and there was no listing of oversight.
Community Development Director Brady indicated that ultimately he was
responsible since it would come through his department.
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City Manager Watenpaugh indicated that extra steps would be added to give
that control.
7. Amendment to the License Agreement of the Old Library Building.
Mayor Pro Tem Kelley inquired if it would be the same program or if there
were changes.
City Manager Watenpaugh explained the School District dropped their
sponsorship of the program and Riverside County EDA took it over.
Councilman Magee inquired if staff had inspected the facility and if they
were in compliance.
Community Services Director Sapp confirmed.
8. Deposit & Reimbursement Agreement between the City and Corman Leigh.
Councilman Hickman inquired what the dollar amount was on their CFD.
Administrative Services Director Pressey indicated it was $5 million.
Councilman Hickman inquired if this had anything to do with dollars to
come back for the RDA.
City Attorney Leibold indicated that she would need to do some research.
PUBLIC HEARING
21. Design Review of Canyon Hills Fire Station.
No comments.
PAGE SIX -STUDY SESSION -APRIL 13, 2004
22. Resolution for LLMD No. 1 as Annexation Area No. 2.
No comments.
23. Consideration of objections to the City's Weed Abatement Program.
Mayor Pro Tern Kelley indicated that she received an email from a property
owner which she had given to the City Manager to handle.
City Manager Watenpaugh commented that he had spoken with that
property owner and her property was located behind City Hall; her concern
was whether or not she could get the property abated by the deadline. He
noted she was going to call him tomorrow.
31. Second Reading - Ordinance No. 1117 — Zone Change No. 2003 -02
Daigle Homes.
No comments.
32. Second Reading - Ordinance No. 1118 - Animal Control Fee Schedule.
No comments.
33. Industrial Project No. 2003- 06 - "D &D Cattle Industrial ".
No comments.
34. Nuisance Abatement Hearing Board.
Councilman Magee indicated that there was a typo in the staff report. He
commented City Clerk Kasad took care of his other questions earlier.
35. Easement and Public Park Improvement Agreement.
PAGE SEVEN -STUDY SESSION -APRIL 13, 2004
Mayor Pro Tem Kelley indicated that there was no design in the staff report.
City Manager Watenpaugh explained that there was not an actual design of
the park completed and approved at this time.
Community Services Director Sapp explained that it was part of the park
plan which would be reviewed by staff.
Mayor Pro Tem Kelley inquired if they would be required to put in play
equipment.
Mr. Sapp explained that it would be based on the evaluation of the property,
as far as what the financial investment would be in the property.
Mayor Pro Tem Kelley indicated that there was a lot of interest in that
community.
Councilman Magee indicated that there was no deadline for the Water
District. He commented. he was not comfortable with no deadline, and
suggested a deadline of February 1, 2005.
City Manager Watenpaugh commented that staff would send the report back
with the suggested modifications.
36. City Hall Remodel.
Councilman Hickman inquired if there was a deadline.
City Manager Watenpaugh indicated that if Council wanted to give a 6
month deadline that was fine, but the project should be done earlier than 6
months. He noted that the vendors had not given him a timeline yet, but his
anticipation was to have this project completed before his goals and
objectives were due.
PAGE EIGHT -STUDY SESSION -APRIL 13, 2004
Councilman Magee commented that the cost had gone up significantly.
Councilman Magee suggested an oval conference table in the new Council
Office.
Mayor Buckley arrived at 4:40 p.m.
City Treasurer Weber commented that the cost to have the wall removed to
extend the counter top was expensive.
37. Amendment to Land Development Agreement with South Shore Properties.
No comments.
38. Electoral Reform Committee.
Mayor Buckley indicated that he would like the committee to look at this in
a short time frame, possibly within three months and report back to Council.
Councilman Magee requested that the committee receive input from the
Registrar of Voters Office in terms of cost and their work load. He also
requested the committee review the election of the Treasurer; whether or not
to continue with an elected Treasurer position.
39. LEAPS
City Attorney Leibold explained that the City Attorney's Office needed
direction as to whether or not the Council wanted her office to assist the City
staff in preparing a response to the application prior to the expiration of the
comment period; and for the Council to understand that direction would
involve a considerable amount of time and resources from her office and
staff as well.
Mayor Pro Tern Kelley indicated that she had read the City Attorney's email
and was going to request to have the item pulled.
PAGE NINE -STUDY SESSION -APRIL 13, 2004
City Attorney Leibold commented that the public item was to provide them
with some direction to prepare comments to present to Council prior to the
expiration of the comment period. Comments were due May 11, 2004. City
Attorney Leibold indicated that at this point there was nothing about the
LEAPS Project that would provide them an opportunity to discuss the issue
in closed session. She indicated that she could provide Council with what
her office and staff believed the appropriate comments would be.
Councilman Schiffner commented that the City Council needed to respond.
City Attorney Leibold indicated that it had potentially significant impacts on
the Lake. She noted the Council and staff had worked hard to preserve and
enhance the Lake as part of the community, and the City should be a
participant in this process.
Councilman Schiffner commented that almost anything to do with the Lake
when the story is heard from the Water District, was like the Council did not
exist.
City Attorney Leibold indicated that at this point the proceedings suggested
exactly that.
REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
Chairman Hickman gave an overview of the RDA Agenda.
Legal Counsel Leibold indicated there was one item of Closed Session, Real
Property Negotiations for the Stadium.
Consent Calendar
No comments.
No comments.
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PUBLIC FINANCE AUTHORITY
Chairman Magee,gave an overview of the PFA Agenda.
Consent Calendar
No comments.
ADJOURNMENT
THE JOINT CITY COUNCIL/REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY/PUBLIC
FINANCE AUTHORITY MEETING WAS ADJOURNED AT 5:00 P.M.
THOMAS BUEY, MAYOR
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
[AIRMAN
REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
/,6
R. E. MAGEE,
PUBLIC FINA
AUTHORITY
PAGE ELEVEN -STUDY SESSION -APRIL 13, 2004
Respectfully submitted,
rederick Ra , eputy City Clerk
AT ST:
VICKI KASAD, CMC, CITY CLERK/
HUMAN RESOURCES DIRECTOR
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
1►yMNL11L -M-1
REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY STUDY SESSION
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
183 NORTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA
Thursday, April 8, 2004
CALL TO ORDER
The Redevelopment Agency Study Session was called to order by Chairman
Hickman at 4:20 p.m.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: BOARDMEMBERS: BUCKLEY, KELLEY,
SCHIFFNER, HICKMAN
COMMITTEE MEMBERS: CROWE, HEWISON,
McCANN, RYAN,
WILSEY
ABSENT: BOARDMEMBERS: BUCKLEY, MAGEE
(Boardmember Buckley
arrived at 4:25 p.m.)
COMMITTEE MEMBERS: NONE
Also present were: Executive Director Watenpaugh, Assistant Executive
Director Best, Assistant Legal Counsel McClendon, Administrative Services
Director Pressey, Information /Communications Manager Dennis, Public
Works Manager Payne, and Clerk of the Board Kasad.
DISCUSSION ITEM
Joint Discussion with RDA Task Force. (F:134.1)
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Chairman Hickman requested introductions by the Task Force. The Task
Force did self introductions. Executive Director Watenpaugh deferred to
Assistant Executive Director Best for an overview. Assistant Executive
Director Best noted that the Committee had gone through a long review and
information gaining process regarding the Redevelopment Agency and the
purposes of Redevelopment, noting the goals of the Task Force. She noted
that the Committee had changed with the election of Mr. Magee to the
Council, and his replacement by Ron Hewison. She indicated that a variety
of topics had been reviewed relative to the goals and objectives and
congratulated the Committee members on their efforts. She thanked the
Committee members for their commitment and work on behalfof the City
and community.
Committee Chairman Ryan indicated that they took the top five goals they
were tasked with and developed recommendations, which were not
necessarily prioritized. He addressed the first recommendation, with regard
to raising the cap in Project Area No. 1. He noted that Project Area No. 1
was the most urgent of the objectives, due to timing to recover the money as
quickly as possible. He explained that it was too late to recover the money
in 2004, but encouraged action to assure it was recovered for the next fiscal
year. He stressed that this needed to be implemented very soon to complete
the process by June of the fiscal year, for the tax increment to come back
from the County. He indicated that it was a substantial amount of money
and up to $2 million could be lost next year. Chairman Hickman inquired
when work should start on this project. Mr. Ryan suggested that it start as
soon as possible, if there is money available to get the City Attorney
involved. He indicated that while he was not sure of the process, there was
an outline in the materials presented, including a sample time line. He
noted that it could be a lengthy process with a lot of steps involved, and
stressed that it was important to start right away. Chairman Hickman
commented that the County could come back and take the $3 million, or
more away, and questioned the ability to start the process before the budget.
Executive Director Watenpaugh indicated that he would need to put it on
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the Agenda for direction on the 27`h; and noted that he should have cost
estimates from the Attorney's office by then.
Committee Member Hewison noted that when they met with the City
Attorney, they found that there was a slim chance of getting the funds for
the current year, as the schedule was very tight. He suggested that it would
be worthwhile to get a final determination on the ability to change the cap
this year. Executive Director Watenpaugh responded that he spoke with
City Attorney Leibold and her general comment on this item was that if it
moved forward it should include the tax increment financing and minor
cleanups, which would take six or seven months. Assistant Executive
Director Best noted that she had heard it could take up to twelve months.
Vice Chairman Schiffner inquired if the process was started and not
completed this year, if the work would still be effective for next year.
Committee Member Hewison commented that there was a long form and a
short form, and suggested that doing it piecemeal might get it done earlier.
Vice Chairman Schiffner concurred that an absolute legal opinion was
needed. Assistant Legal Counsel McClendon indicated that it depended on
whether the issues were long form or short form, noting that the short form
could be used for language cleanup, etc, but the long form would be
triggered by moving the cap.
Committee Chairman Ryan indicated that their second recommendation was
regarding a public information campaign to be publicized for the benefit of
the community; and they felt that it was important for the community to
know what redevelopment had done for the City and what it could
potentially do. He noted that it was not costing them money, but coming
back from the tax increment. He commented that the proposed brochure
was drafted as a stand alone item; and indicated that Information/
Communications Manager Dennis had done an outstanding job of putting
the brochure together. Chairman Hickman questioned the $70,000 cost
factor. Executive Director Watenpaugh indicated that the $70,000 was
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for the base program. Assistant Executive Director Best added that the
flyer itself was much less expensive.
Information/Communications Manager Dennis presented a Powerpoint
presentation on the public relations goals and recommendation; noting that
it had been a pleasure working with the committee. He detailed the overall
conclusions, highlighted the public relations goals, provided an overview of
the information strategies, including polling, and highlighted the tactics for
public relations. He indicated that the brochure was a good place to start
and highlighted the components of the brochure, which showed the key
messages about redevelopment and highlighted the funding and laws
relative to redevelopment. He detailed the project schedule and the
estimated budget for the overall campaign.
Vice Chairman Schiffner inquired if this was a one year budget.
Information/Communications Manager Dennis indicated that the idea was to
show it in terms of staff time and efforts, the hard costs for publication,
mailing, consultation and production, but did not include staff time, so it
could go up or down. Vice Chairman Schiffner indicated that it would
require considerable staff time, but the costs might go down in future years.
Information/Communications Manager Dennis clarified the start up costs
vs. assistance to a future ballot measure, etc. He indicated that they wanted
to be realistic that outside help was part of the need; but noted that the
Redevelopment Agency had not often gone outside for that type of
consultation, but it could be beneficial.
Boardmember Buckley noted that the elements were included for the
general information campaign, and questioned the square miles on Slide 14
of the presentation. He suggested that the numbers were missing decimal
points. Information/Communications Manager Dennis concurred that
might be the case. Boardmember Buckley indicated that one goal had to be
to honestly explain the past redevelopment agency actions that were
perceived as failures. He noted that this meeting was occurring because the
Redevelopment Agency had gained a reputation of fascinating practices.
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He addressed page 20 of the report, and indicated that was about a minimum
budget for a general information campaign. He commented that it could be
used to provide public education to the voters on ballot issues, and indicated
that it was a really good idea. He noted discussions of a whole new logo
for the City's re- imaging, and questioned the timing. Executive Director
Watenpaugh indicated that he was looking to set a study session to discuss
that issue. Boardmember Buckley inquired if the RDA should have a
distinct logo, or follow the City format; as this might impact the timing of
the campaign. Committee Member Hewison indicated that they were
looking to make it a family of documents, with only the banner changing.
Boardmember Buckley noted consistency of form, but noted possibly a
change in color could show the difference. Committee Member Wilsey
noted that was not an aspect that was thoroughly discussed. Boardmember
Buckley inquired of the Board how distinct a public image the RDA
should have. Committee Chairman Ryan indicated that the RDA should be
a little different from the City and noted that there was a lot of confusion
about the RDA, with some people thinking it had nothing to do with the
City. He noted that people related it to an entirely different organization,
outside the City, with the City having limited input. Boardmember Buckley
indicated that there should be some consistency in form. Committee
Member McCann suggested that a different presentation was probably
valuable, but they would want to look at the final decision on the City side
to see if it was viable for the Redevelopment Agency. He indicated that he
was not sure they wanted to make a formal decision today, but suggested
keeping the documents similar with a variation in color or style. Vice
Chairman Schiffner indicated that it was worthwhile to think about, but
suggested that it was important to first educate the people on what the RDA
is. Committee Chairman Ryan indicated that the time line was important
depending on what they were trying to affect, being information/education
on the cap in Area I, or eminent domain, or the Redevelopment Agency
budget.
Committee Chairman Ryan commented that Mr. McCann met with
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representatives from Corona, as they have an extensive education program,
due to the reinstatement of eminent domain, and noted a significant change
made by their Redevelopment Agency near the 91 freeway. Committee
Member McCann indicated that Corona's campaign, as far as eminent
domain, included advertising in a defined area within the Grand Avenue
circle. He noted that it included the older section of town and they were
able to focus their needs on eminent domain and focus the advertising on a
specific targeted area. He suggested that, depending on the focus, the
approach could be shotgun or specific, depending on the plans. He noted
they had identified specific issues in a large general advertising plan. He
deferred to Assistant Executive Director Best on the structure used in
Corona. Assistant Executive Director Best indicated that the City went
through a plan update to include eminent domain in areas not previously
included. She advised that it took about 18 months for them to process the
long form. She indicated that they used a series of letters to the community
members and property owners; and asked members of the public to
participate. She explained that they did tours and provided a variety of
media based information to implement the review and amendment of the
project areas. She noted that in the case of Lake Elsinore, the logos for the
City and Redevelopment Agency were currently quite different. Chairman
Hickman inquired which was more important the cap or the brochure. The
Committee indicated that the cap was the most important factor.
Committee Chairman Ryan addressed the third recommendation relating to
the budget; and recommended that the funds be repaid to the City on a
schedule as proposed. He commented that if there were affordable housing
projects, they would be funded by the monies being deposited into the
housing funds, and repay the loan from the fund. He indicated that the
funds would not necessarily be earmarked for new projects, but any portion
of them could be. He suggested that there would be the flexibility to either
use them or not for new housing. Committee Member McCann indicated
that another concern with the housing fund, was that it could be recaptured
by the County, to use for other purposes. He indicated that they suggested
splitting the funding to make sure it was clear, and provided the most
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opportunity for the use of the funds. Chairman Hickman indicated that he
would rather see it for housing than infrastructure, and contrasted that use
with the Amber Ridge Sewer. He stressed the need for low income or
senior housing, and indicated that he would like to see the committee work
with the City to eliminate debt. Vice Chairman Schiffner clarified that
they were discussing future income, and noted that the properties the RDA
owned would likely be sold, putting a chunk of money into that fund. He
noted that the piece he was thinking of might sell for $4 million and he
would like to see each agency get half of that money. He noted that the
City was behind in low income housing, but he would hate to see the City
receive such a small percentage. Committee Member Hewison clarified
that the percentages proposed were for use of money from the increment and
not from individual land sales. Boardmember Kelley inquired if the
Committee had discussed the possibility of low interest loans for
rehabilitating buildings or first time buyers; and questioned if the housing
credits would apply to rehabilitation. Assistant Legal Counsel McClendon
indicated that the statute says "newly constructed or substantially
rehabilitated ". Executive Director Watenpaugh questioned the need for
some type of covenant, noting that a lot of residences in the downtown area,
already meet the price ranges. Assistant Legal Counsel McClendon
indicated that there was already a 45 year covenant. Committee Member
Hewison indicated that they discussed apartments such as Joy Street and the
Bird Tract. Committee Member McCann indicated that their focus was
more toward the City needing to be repaid, and there was no payment plan
in place. He explained that the intent was to accomplish both by repaying
the City and doing some RDA project. He indicated that they did not spend
a lot of time deciding what to do with their 70 %, but it might be something
they could address later. Chairman Hickman indicated that they had
established a foundation to be built on. Boardmember Buckley questioned
the debt of the Agency to the City and if there was any thought on defining
that debt, or thought that the City should stop charging interest, penalties
and fees. Committee Member McCann indicated that they did not get that
deep into the matter. He commented that he would be more than willing to
have the Committee take on that task and address it. Chairman Hickman
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indicated that they should look at the $9 million in debt. Committee
Chairman Ryan indicated that they were focusing on affordable housing, but
the 70% could be used for anything. He indicated that they did not want to
allocate anything directly to affordable housing, but it could be used for
that. He noted the need for some flexibility. Committee Member Hewison
indicated that in practical terms, the pass -thru would be set aside and they
were looking at splitting the surplus on the increment. Committee
Chairman Ryan clarified that this would provide unallocated funds to satisfy
the debt. Committee Member Crowe noted that although it was not much,
it was a concern expressed by most of the Committee that the interest on the
debt was breaking the back of the other programs. Vice Chairman
Schiffner addressed the debt to the City, and indicated that all of the money
would be spent for the benefit of the City and its citizens, and suggested that
it might be that the City funds could be used with less restrictions. He noted
that they might be used for curbs and sidewalks in an area that might not be
addressed by RDA funding. He indicated that he did not see a difference in
the money. Chairman Hickman indicated that it did concern him, as in his
mind the citizens had not been helped out; and questioned how far behind
the City was on the housing requirements. Assistant Legal Counsel
McClendon indicated that they believed the way some bond issues were
structured, the Agency had borrowed the 20% portion on the refunding and
there was an obligation to back fill. He indicated that he believed the
number was large and noted some of the tools that could be used, such as a
square footage based in -lieu affordable housing fee. He suggested that
would go a long way to fulfill the exclusionary housing requirements, and
noted that there were several options. Executive Director Watenpaugh
indicated that staff could pull those numbers for the staff report to come
back on the 27`h. Chairman Hickman indicated that he was concerned that
with the new construction, rents were increasing and he was seeing seniors
forced out of rentals. He indicated that he would rather see it help the
people, than a sidewalk or a curb. He commented that the Agency owned
three lots on Franklin and Ellis, which they gave to the developer to build
on. Executive Director Watenpaugh clarified that the developer would
purchase the lots from the RDA and the City would subsidize each
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development for permits and infrastructure. He stressed that was the
subsidy, with him purchasing the lots and the City underwriting some of the
development costs. He indicated that the City could give the lots away and
have someone build on them. Chairman Hickman questioned who held the
title to the parcels. Assistant Executive Director Best indicated that the
Agency held title to those parcels; and noted that the Committee spent a lot
of time on that matter and there were private issues regarding the property.
Boardmember Buckley addressed the square footage instead of actual units,
noting that he would like to hear if the Board should negotiate project by
project, or if there should be a set square footage price. Committee
Member Hewison indicated that matter was not discussed as a committee,
but he had looked at it. He indicated that in broad terms on the Grape Street
project, if one took 15% of the units going in and calculated, it came out to
about 10% of what the gross would have been. He indicated that Tuesday
night's meeting there was a $700 million project, and the low /moderate
requirements were about 300 units. He commented that he felt 15% was
$100 million, and detailed the possible breakdown of costs, and indicated
that the project came in with about 5% low /moderate housing. Chairman
Hickman indicated that it might be something that should be negotiated, but
maybe it should be a little higher. He noted that the project did not pay
library, TUMF or road fees, so it was a win -win for the developer; and
suggested that Laing might defer to the next builder. He addressed the
dollars that would be spent in the City, by living here, and indicated that he
didn't want to get taken. He suggested that the City was in a position to
make some demands, but concurred with Mr. Hewison that the City was
getting short changed. Executive Director Watenpaugh indicated that the
Board had given the staff direction to come back with a program, since the
apartments were the first situation negotiated; so staff would be coming
back with a program for Board review. Chairman Hickman indicated that
the Planning Commission had eliminated low income homes. Executive
Director Watenpaugh clarified that they could eliminate the homes, but the
developer would still be required to fund 318 units, per the requirements.
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Boardmember Buckley indicated that the issue was with Grape Street, and if
they were required to fund construction of the units, but were being charged
a reduced rate. He commented that the RDA still had to provide the units
and if they were not charged enough they would not have the money to
provide the housing. Chairman Hickman indicated that this was a step in
the right direction.
Vice Chairman Schiffner suggested keeping in mind that the homes were
really not very cheap and would not help most of the people in need. He
further suggested that people will not want a low income house next door or
in their neighborhood, so if the City demands units of any developer, it
would seriously affect the sales of the homes. He commented that while he
had sympathy, he did not believe anyone would volunteer to have the units
next door to them. He indicated that while he had sympathy, he did not
believe anyone would volunteer to have the house next door. He stressed
that it was not possible to legislate where people are going to live; and if
undesirable things are legislated they will seriously impact what happens
with the housing. Boardmember Buckley indicated that when the Agency
was established it was agreed to legislate; but he had no problem with
getting funds to build somewhere else. Executive Director Watenpaugh
indicated that everyone agreed, but the key was to put together programs to
meet that need. He noted that there might be other programs to follow. He
indicated that staff was trying to figure out which steps to take first, since
the Board wanted to see that happen. He indicated that the Committee had
come a long way. Chairman Hickman indicated that the last thing he
wanted to do was to build a future ghetto. Committee Member Crowe
indicated that other communities were building the same houses at a
reduced value, and they carried that financial arrangement forever, so when
people go to sell the houses, they can't sell them for the same price as the
neighbors. He questioned the term of that covenant. Assistant Legal
Counsel McClendon indicated there was one situation with affordable
housing, but the interest was in low and very low income houses. He
explained that the subsidy was so the project could not be purchased by the
very low income people. Vice Chairman Schiffner noted a discussion with
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a representative from Coronado, where they are building low income
apartments by refurbishing and upgrading the area; but he suspected that
they would find the same slum they had in the beginning.
Committee Chairman Ryan addressed the recommendation no. 4, and noted
that this was the most sensitive and spirited of their discussions, which
finished yesterday afternoon. He explained the finding and compared it to
the Corona situation, noting that if the Agency decides to reinstate eminent
domain, the public education program will need to be in place far in
advance of the processes beginning. He indicated that originally he was not
in favor of eminent domain, but he did not think development could move
forward otherwise, due to the City's unique nature as an older city that is a
bit chopped up. He indicated that eminent domain would benefit Lake
Elsinore more than other cities. Chairman Hickman questioned its use for
vacant property and if they were considering its use in Country Club
Heights. Committee Member McCann indicated that this item was a
volatile topic, but he felt that some owner occupied housing would need to
be incorporated. He commented that some areas of the community in 12 to
20 years, will not have changed, but some areas adjacent to commercial
areas will need to be addressed. He indicated that eminent domain on
houses was topical, so the committee should look at the General Plan and
decide where the areas of confrontation were, and check to see if owner
occupied housing was preferred. He addressed Project Area 1 and
indicated that everyone in the area would have to be notified, so if the areas
could be narrowed down, the costs to the City and RDA would be less and
limit confusion. He stressed that this would allow the Agency to deal with
the people most affected; and suggested that Country Club Heights could be
an area. He stressed the need to look at it very closely before making the
recommendation. Boardmember Buckley requested clarification that it was
possible to address specific neighborhoods rather than the whole area.
Committee Member McCann indicated that it could go down to the block
unit. Chairman Hickman questioned the life cycle of eminent domain.
Assistant Legal Counsel McClendon indicated that it was a twelve year
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term. Vice Chairman Schiffner suggested considering a limitation based on
the purpose, such as accumulating small lots into larger lots, without
pinning down specific locations. He commented that restricting to purpose
would help to prevent some fears. Committee Member McCann indicated
that was addressed and when it moved forward it had to include specific
areas. He expressed concern with the potential expense of notification and
indicated that he didn't want anyone kicked out of their homes. He
indicated that eminent domain could be a valuable tool for those property
owners as well. Committee Member Hewison noted that Temecula had
rehabilitated apartments, but did not use eminent domain. Chairman
Hickman addressed eminent domain and suggested trying to force people to
clean up their property. Boardmember Kelley indicated that was not the
point at all, but rather it was a tool in the tool box and there were areas of
the City that would never move forward without it. She stressed the need
to do the General Plan Update before specifying areas, and stressed that it
was needed in spite of the potential for controversy. She indicated that the
last thing she wanted to do was say that they were using it to try to have
people clean up their houses. Chairman Hickman clarified his comments.
Boardmember Buckley indicated that it was probably good to build from the
ground up, with the General Plan or Country Club Heights planning results.
He indicated that he was still unsure as to whether to include any occupied
housing at all. He questioned the ability to use eminent domain for the
purchase of lots for resale to the public. Assistant Legal Counsel
McClendon indicated that the RDA eminent domain is completely different.
Vice Chairman Schiffner indicated that was a very common use.
Boardmember Kelley indicated that eminent domain was something to work
with and implement with the General Plan update, but if it is taken with the
20% set aside, it is perfectly logical that using those fees, it would need to
include owner occupied homes in the program. She thought that was a really
good resource that would be needed as the City tried to update and come
into conformance. She noted that the only way to clean up some areas is to
raise the areas and start from scratch. She also noted that if there were
focuses on different areas and applications, the process would get too
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bogged down. Chairman Hickman indicated that it was up to the
Committee to establish a guideline. Committee Member Wilsey indicated
that one thing discussed related to developers of single family residences.
She noted that they were more interested in developing if there were
residents living in the area and they were part of the project. She explained
that the developers under those circumstances felt more confident that work
could proceed. Committee Chairman Ryan noted that eminent domain was
a process that protected the individual through the court, and it was an
expensive process. Vice Chairman Schiffner concurred that it protected the
land owner, but noted that there was a considerable difference of opinion on
how the land in the back basin should be used; so nothing could be done in
that area without eminent domain. Executive Director Watenpaugh
requested clarification if the matters about multi - family or single family
would require a project area committee. Assistant Legal Counsel
McClendon indicated that the potential for displacement of low income
residents would trigger the project area committee. Executive Director
Watenpaugh noted that the other item in play, was at what point to look at
eminent domain, as opposed to doing the education during the General Plan
process. He suggested that eminent domain might be pushed off until the
education process. Boardmember Kelley concurred that the General Plan
had to be done first. Committee Member Crowe noted the concerns with
area 1. Boardmember Buckley noted that with regard to the General Plan
and Public Information, the Southern California Association of
Governments (SCAG) was making huge grants available for General Plan
work.
Committee Chairman Ryan addressed recommendation no. 5, and reviewed
the locations for the best benefit. He noted that there was a list of areas in
the City, which could serve as potential areas. He indicated that they were
leaving it up to the Board to prioritize the projects as the General Plan and
funds were available. Boardmember Kelley noted that she had read the list
and was prioritizing the locations in her mind. She agreed that the biggest
areas of importance were the lakefront area and beach property, as that
would benefit the most people; and the older areas of town that have fallen
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into ruin and need redevelopment. She indicated that rehabilitation and
changing densities would go a long way to provide senior and low income
housing. She commented that she thought Joy Street was an important area;
and noted that funding for some other areas could come from other places.
Boardmember Buckley questioned the Bellheumer property location.
Committee Member McCann clarified the location. Executive Director
Watenpaugh suggested if the other issues were coming back on the 27th, he
could give an update on the current activity. Chairman Hickman suggested
that Council set its own priorities: and noted that Franklin and Ellis was his.
Boardmember Kelley stressed the lakefront/beach improvement, noting that
the City has a plan for the area. Executive Director Watenpaugh confirmed
that there was a Lake Master Plan for the City portion of the lakefront.
Boardmember Kelley noted that it included designs for trails. Executive
Director Watenpaugh confirmed and noted that would be part of the General
Plan update. He noted that he met with the prior County Supervisor on a
Lake Edge Specific Plan, however when the Supervisor changed, the
discussions ended. He commented that there were existing designs and
standards which could come forward again. Boardmember Buckley
questioned the location of the Civic Center site. Committee Chairman Ryan
indicated that it would be adjacent to the old Courthouse. Vice Chairman
Schiffner indicated that they were all good recommendation, but until there
was money and the Agency started to budget, they could not prioritize. He
stressed that they were all good ideas. Boardmember Buckley noted the
Civic Center possibilities, suggesting that if the City/RDA was able to build
it with room for the library, city hall, etc., it would be possible to tap a
variety of funds. Assistant Legal Counsel McClendon noted that a
prohibition was passed in 1994 to prevent the use of RDA fund to build City
Halls. Vice Chairman Schiffner noted that there were still negotiations to
try to trade a piece of City property for the courthouse property. Chairman
Hickman suggested management's update on the 27th would expedite the
consideration. Executive Director Watenpaugh indicated that staff was
happy to draft a report for the committee's review and bring it forward to
the Board.
Chairman Hickman commented that the Committee was doing an excellent
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job. Committee Chairman Ryan questioned their next task. Chairman
Hickman noted that there would be the report on the 27th, followed by a
push to work on the cap and the brochure as proposed. He indicated that he
would also like them to look at the statement of the redevelopment agency
and the balance sheet to see if they can work with the City to allocate a little
more money. Executive Director Watenpaugh suggested that staff prepare
the draft report, have the committee review it and get formal direction or
funding at the meeting on the 27th, before the Committee meets again. He
stressed the need for direction and funding to proceed. Chairman Hickman
inquired if it would come before the City Council. Executive Director
Watenpaugh indicated that the Agency Board could expend the dollars.
Assistant Legal Counsel McClendon confirmed. Executive Director
Watenpaugh indicated that the Agency Board needed to give formal
direction to expend the funds and move forward on the education program.
Boardmember Buckley inquired if the Committee's work was complete.
Chairman Hickman indicated they were not. Executive Director
Watenpaugh indicated that they would proceed if the Board agrees, but they
would not go any further until they reviewed a copy of the report and
received formal direction by the Board on funding and where to go next.
Committee Chairman Ryan inquired if they should be looking at the
potential for the tax increment for the coming year. Executive Director
Watenpaugh indicated that could be prepared based on the anticipated
number of units. Vice Chairman Schiffner indicated that he was convinced
that there was a need to move ahead as quickly as possible.
Boardmember Schiffner thanked the Committee for their time, work and
presentation; and indicated that he was sure the continuation of their work
would be of the same quality.
Committee Chairman Ryan thanked everyone for their assistance and
indicated that it worked very well; and while they had heated discussions,
that was the value of their involvement. He indicated that at the end of
their meetings they have had spirited discussions, and there is a good mix of
people. He noted that Mr. Crowe was awesome and brought them back to
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the Constitution. He indicated that he likes working with them and City
staff had been of great support and assistance, and helped make sense of the
options.
Chairman Hickman thanked the Committee and noted that they worked well
together based on the results. Committee Member Crowe noted that if the
Board wanted to move forward with the cap, there would be a need for more
direction from the Manager or the Attorney on how to move it ahead
quickly. He noted that would be the issue that took the most time.
Executive Director Watenpaugh indicated that would be part of the
direction requested on the 27th. Committee Member McCann suggested
consideration of the issue of the cap, in coordination with adjusting the
other project areas and housekeeping issues. He indicated that doing
eminent domain at the same time would allow for some cost savings.
Boardmember Kelley thanked the Committee for their work.
ADJOURNMENT
The Redevelopment Agency Study Session was adjourned at 5:55 p.m.
L HICKMAN, CHAIRMAN
REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
ATTEST:
VICKI KASAD, CMC, CLERK OF THE BOARD
REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
MINUTES
REGULAR REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MEETING
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
183 NORTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA
TUESDAY, APRIL 13, 2004
CALL TO ORDER
The Regular Redevelopment Agency Meeting was called to order by Chairman
Hickman at 11:12 p.m.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: BOARDMEMBERS: BUCKLEY, KELLEY, MAGEE,
SCHIFFNER, HICKMAN
ABSENT: BOARDMEMBERS: NONE
Also present were: Executive Director Watenpaugh, Assistant Executive
Director Best, Legal Counsel Leibold, Administrative Services Director
Pressey, Community Development Director Brady, Community Services
Director Sapp, Lake & Aquatic Resources Director Kilroy, Information/
Communications Manager Dennis, Parks & Open Space Manager Fazzio and
Clerk of the Board Kasad.
CLOSED SESSION
None.
CLOSED SESSION REPORT
No items to report.
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PUBLIC COMMENTS — NON - AGENDIZED ITEMS —1 MINUTE
No Comments.
CONSENT CALENDAR
MOVED BY BUCKLEY, SECONDED BY KELLEY AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR AS
PRESENTED.
1. The following Minutes were approved:
a. Joint City Council/Redevelopment Agency Study Session — February
10, 2004.
b. Regular Redevelopment Agency Meeting — February 10, 2004.
C. Joint City Council/Redevelopment Agency Study Session — March 9,
2004.
d. Regular Redevelopment Agency Meeting — March 23, 2004. (F:134.3)
2. Ratified Warrant List for March 31, 2004. (F:12.3)
3. Concurred with Council Action to Approve Industrial Project No. 2003 -06 —
"D & D Cattle Industrial" (F:86.2)
BUSINESS ITEMS
None.
PUBLIC COMMENTS — NON - AGENDIZED ITEMS — 3 MINUTES
No Comments.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR COMMENTS
No Comments.
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LEGAL COUNSEL COMMENTS
No Comments.
BOARDMEMBER COMMENTS
No Comments.
ADJOURNMENT
THE REGULAR REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MEETING WAS
ADJOURNED AT 11:13 P.M.
l
DARYL HICKMAN, CHAIRMAN
REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
JERK OF THE BOARD
REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
MINUTES
REGULAR REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MEETING
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
183 NORTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA
TUESDAY, APRIL 27, 2004
CALL TO ORDER
The Regular Redevelopment Agency Meeting was called to order by Chairman
Hickman at 5:20 p.m.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT:
ABSENT:
BOARDMEMBERS
BOARDMEMBERS:
BUCKLEY,KELLEY,
MAGEE, SCHIFFNER,
HICKMAN
1\OXIM
Also present were: Executive Director Watenpaugh, Assistant Executive
Director Best, Legal Counsel Leibold, Administrative Services Director
Pressey, Community Development Director Brady, Community Services
Director Sapp, Lake & Aquatic Resources Director Kilroy, Parks & Open
Space Manager Fazzio, Public Works Manager Payne, Recreation & Tourism
Manager Fazzio, City Treasurer Weber and Clerk of the Board Kasad.
CLOSED SESSION
CONFERENCE WITH REAL PROPERTY NEGOTIATOR (Gov't Code
54956.8) (17:40.1)(X:134.10)
Property: A.P.N. 373 - 210 -040 & 371 - 030 -021 (Lake Elsinore Diamond Stadium
and parking lot)
Negotiating Parties: Impact Stadium L.L.C. and the Redevelopment Agency of the
City of Lake Elsinore
Under Negotiation: Price and Terms.
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Legal Counsel Leibold announced the Closed Session discussion item as listed
above.
THE REGULAR REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MEETING WAS
RECESSED TO CLOSED SESSION AT 5:21 P.M.
The Closed Session discussion was completed at 6:40 p.m.
RECONVENE IN PUBLIC SESSION (7:00 P.M.)
Chairman Hickman reconvened the Regular Redevelopment Agency meeting in
Public Session at 9:50 p.m.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT:
ABSENT:
BOARDMEMBERS:
BOARDMEMBERS:
BUCKLEY, KELLEY,
MAGEE, SCHIFFNER,
HICKMAN
NONE
Also present were: Executive Director Watenpaugh, Assistant Executive
Director Best, Legal Counsel Leibold, Administrative Services Director
Pressey, Community Development Director Brady, Community Services
Director Sapp, Lake & Aquatic Resources Director Kilroy, Parks & Open
Space Manager Fazzio, Public Works Manager Payne, Recreation & Tourism
Manager Fazzio, City Treasurer Weber and Clerk of the Board Kasad.
CLOSED SESSION REPORT
Legal Counsel Leibold reported that the Redevelopment Agency Board met in
Closed Session for discussion of the above listed item. She advised that the Board
directed her to complete the negotiations and have a lease document available and
noticed for the regular meeting on June 8, 2004.
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CONSENT CALENDAR
MOVED BY BUCKLEY, SECONDED BY KELLEY AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR AS
PRESENTED.
The following Minutes were approved:
a. Joint City Council /Redevelopment Agency Study Session — March 23,
2004.(F:134.3)
b. Joint City Council/Redevelopment Agency Study Session — April 13,
2004.
C. Regular Redevelopment Agency Meeting — April 13, 2004.
2. Ratified Warrant List —April 15, 2004. (F:12.3)
BUSINESS ITEMS
3. Recommendations from RDA Committee. (F:134.1)
Committee Members Ryan, Crowe & Hewison approached the Council.
Committee Chairman Ryan detailed the five recommendations as follow:
Increase the cap in Project Area #1. He explained that this was a high
priority, and a problem if it was not addressed right away.
2. Implementation of a public education program by the Agency.
3. Establish budget ratios for loan repayments. He suggested
percentages be allocated to the City loan and to new projects; and
placement of new project money through the housing fund to create
low and moderate housing for the community.
4. Reimplementation of eminent domain for future development. He
explained that the committee recognized that as the City grows, that
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tool will be necessary for use in development.
5. Establishment of a list of target areas and potential projects. He noted
that they felt the Lake was a high priority for the RDA to be involved
in.
Chairman Hickman thanked the Committee for their work, but noted that
their work was not done. He noted the concerns expressed by Mr. Estrada,
regarding low income senior citizens housing. He indicated that he would
like the task force to continue and lay the foundations for other things.
Committee Chairman Ryan indicated that if they are to continue, they would
want direction from the Board regarding priorities. He noted that staff was
preparing the fiscal impact information for raising the cap in Area #1. He
indicated that the other priority was some type of public information
program. He commented that he didn't know what money would be
available, but if the budget is there, the cap in Area #1 needed to be the
priority; with the public information program being the second priority.
Boardmember Magee thanked the committee for their work, and concurred
that the cap and the education programs were necessities. He indicated that
he liked the repayment schedule as well. He noted that he met with Mr.
Hewison to review the issues and while he understands the value of
reinstating eminent domain, he can't go along with it, particularly for owner-
occupied single family homes. He commented that the public involvement
efforts were beginning to pay off, as new ideas were brought to the table.
He indicated that he would like to see the committee continue their work.
Boardmember Kelley thanked the committee for their hard work and efforts,
and noted that they were tasked with a lot of items and had done a great job.
She concurred with the cap and the public information program; and
indicated that with regard to the target projects, she would support the
lakefront/beach area as well. She noted that this would have an impact on a
greater number of people in the community. She reiterated her thanks to the
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committee members.
Vice Chairman Schiffner thanked the committee and noted the hard work
they had completed. He noted that there were a lot more meetings than the
Board required of the committee and there was a lot of information
provided. He suggested it would be unfair to ask them to continue unless
there were additional tasks for them to do. He expressed hopes that they
would stick around until the Board came up with additional tasks.
Boardmember Buckley indicated that he pretty much agreed with
Boardmember Magee; and noted that he was very concerned with eminent
domain on owner occupied single family homes. He addressed tasks for the
committee and suggested making sure there was a consistent system for
determining how much low and moderate housing gets built or a
requirement is established for a developer to pay an in -lieu fee. He
questioned the legality of requiring that developers receiving RDA
assistance follow the conditions, such as working hours or have the money
withheld. He questioned the ability to set policy on that issue. Legal
Counsel Leibold indicated that if a developer was receiving RDA assistance,
the Agency could require that the owner - participant comply with the
conditions of approval or the money could be withheld.
Boardmember Kelley addressed tasking the committee, and noted that
getting through the cap and doing the education were huge projects.
Committee Member Crowe concurred that the cap had already run out, and it
was important to hurry or another year would be lost. Boardmember Kelley
expressed concern with over tasking the committee. Committee Member
Crowe indicated that the timing made a difference on how to attack the tasks
ahead, but he stressed that it was important to know how the Board wanted
them to proceed. He noted that while there are a lot of ways to generate
RDA funds, the Agency is not blessed with a lot of funds. He suggested
that in spite of limited funding there is a lot that can be done by working
with members of the community. He indicated that it was hard to pick just
one project, and noted that it was hard to know what the development
community would push for first. He commented that it was important to
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educate the development community. He noted that there were several
things on the list that did not seem to be redevelopment projects, such as
roads; but there was a need to provide a way to configure land for use by the
developer. He indicated that there was also a need to work with the funds to
develop infrastructure for low income housing. He stressed the importance
of knowing where the Board wants to go on this issue. He reiterated the
need to address the cap as quickly as possible. Boardmember Kelley
indicated that it would be the Attorney's job to work with the committee.
Legal Counsel Leibold clarified that the direction was to initiate proceedings
to increase the cap in Area #1, and any other modifications to that plan.
Boardmember Buckley indicated that he liked all of the suggestions and staff
could proceed; and noted that was why he would like to assign new tasks to
the Committee. Chairman Hickman indicated that he was concerned with
thanking the Committee and stressing that their work is not done.
Vice Chairman Schiffner questioned the time and forum in which the Board
would give direction to begin on raising the cap. Legal Counsel Leibold
indicated that the Board was at liberty to give direction as it saw fit.
MOVED BY SCHIFFNER TO DIRECT LEGAL COUNSEL TO PROCEED
WITH THE LEGAL STEPS TO RAISE THE CAP IN AREA #1 AND
OTHER AREAS.
Legal Counsel Leibold clarified that there was no need to increase the cap in
areas two or three, but there were other provisions in the RDA plan for Area
#1 that should be updated.
Boardmember Buckley indicated that he would second the motion, if it was
possible to amend the motion to except 4.e. and further task the committee to
embark on a set system of in -lieu funding for low and moderate income
housing; as well as developing language for a standard condition of approval
for RDA funded projects to lose a portion of their funding. Legal Counsel
Leibold questioned if the funds would be withheld until the problem was
cured. Vice Chairman Schiffner indicated that he would amend the motion
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if the direction to Legal Counsel was priority number one. Boardmember
Magee requested an additional task to look at the amount of money the City
charges the RDA in interest against the loans.
BOARDMEMBER SCHIFFNER AMENDED HIS MOTION AS
REQUESTED, BOARDMEMBER BUCKLEY SECONDED THE MOTION.
Legal Counsel Leibold noted that there would be other opportunities to
discuss the matter, but for clarification she would anticipate the plan
amendment would include some eminent domain, unless the Board chose to
defer that decision until later. Boardmember Buckley questioned the long
term and the amendment process. Legal Counsel Leibold noted that there
might be reasons to take the two issues separately, but that could be part of
the initial evaluation.
THE FOREGOING MOTION CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE.
Chairman Hickman stressed that the Committee's work was not done.
Executive Director Watenpaugh suggested asking the Committee to wait for
the draft education program before their first meeting. Chairman Hickman
asked the Committee about their preference. The Committee Members
concurred that they would wait for the draft.
ADJOURNMENT
THE REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MEETING WAS ADJOURNED AT
10:10 P.M.
[ICKMAN, CHAIRMAN
REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
CLERK OF THE BOARD
REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
MINUTES
REGULAR REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MEETING
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
183 NORTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA
TUESDAY, MAY 25, 2004
CALL TO ORDER
The Regular Redevelopment Agency Meeting was called to order by
Chairman Hickman at 5:00 p.m.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: BOARDMEMBERS: BUCKLEY, KELLEY,
MAGEE, SCHIFFNER,
HICKMAN
ABSENT: BOARDMEMBERS: NONE
Also present were: Executive Director Watenpaugh, Assistant Executive
Director Best, Legal Counsel Leibold, Community Development
Director Brady, Community Services Director Sapp, Administrative
Services Director Pressey, Director of Lake & Aquatic Resources
Kilroy, Information/Communications Manager Dennis, Public Works
Manager Payne, Parks & Open Space Manager Fazzio, City Treasurer
Weber and Deputy Clerk of the Ray.
CLOSED SESSION
a. CONFERENCE WITH REAL PROPERTY NEGOTIATOR
(Government Code Section 54965.8) (17:40.1)(X:134.10)
Property: APN 373 - 210 -040 & 371 - 030 -021 (Lake Elsinore
Diamond Stadium and parking lot)
Negotiating Parties: Impact Capital Consulting L.L.C. and The
Redevelopment Agency of the City of Lake Elsinore
Under Negotiation: Price and Terms
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Legal Counsel Leibold announced the Closed Session discussion topic as
listed above.
THE REGULAR REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MEETING WAS
RECESSED TO CLOSED SESSION AT 5:01 P.M.
THE CLOSED SESSION DISCUSSION WAS COMPLETED AT 7:00
P.M.
RECONVENE PUBLIC SESSION (7:00 P.M.)
Chairman Hickman reconvened the Regular Redevelopment Agency
Meeting in public session at 9:00 p.m.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: BOARDMEMBERS: BUCKLEY, KELLEY,
MAGEE, SCHIFFNER,
HICKMAN
ABSENT: BOARDMEMBERS: NONE
Also present were: Executive Director Watenpaugh, Assistant Executive
Director Best, Legal Counsel Leibold, Community Development
Director Brady, Community Services Director Sapp, Administrative
Services Director Pressey, Director of Lake & Aquatic Resources
Kilroy, Information/Communications Manager Dennis, Public Works
Manager Payne, Parks & Open Space Manager Fazzio, City Treasurer
Weber and Deputy Clerk of the Ray.
CLOSED SESSION REPORT
Legal Counsel Leibold announced that the Redevelopment Agency Board
met in Closed Session for discussion of the Real Property Negotiations as
listed on the Agenda. She indicated that there was no reportable action at
this time. She noted that there was a public notice for a public hearing for
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Agency Board consideration of a proposed lease with option to purchase
scheduled for June 8, 2004.
PUBLIC COMMENTS — AGENDIZED ITEMS
No comments.
CONSENT CALENDAR
MOVED BY KELLEY, SECONDED BY BUCKLEY AND CARRIED
BY UNANIMOUS VOTE TO APPROVE THE CONSENT
CALENDAR AS PRESENTED.
The following Minutes were approved:
(F:134.3)
a. Joint Study Session — April 27, 2004.
b. Regular Redevelopment Agency Meeting — April 27, 2004.
c. Joint Study Session — May 11, 2004.
d. Regular Redevelopment Agency Meeting — May 11, 2004.
2. Ratified the Warrant List of May 14, 2004.
3. Concurred with Council Action to approve Final EIR No. 2004 -03;
General Plan Amendment No. 2004 -01; Tentative Parcel Map No.
32369; Commercial Design Review No. 2003 -13; and Conditional
Use Permit No(s). 2004 -04 through 2004 -11 and 2004 -17 through
2004 -19. (F:110.2)
4. Concurred with Council Action to approve General Plan Amendment
No. 2004 -03; Zone Change No. 2004 -03; Commercial Design Review
No. 2004 -01; and Mitigated Negative Declaration No. 2004 -04 for
"Lake Chevrolet ". (F:58.2)
Concurred with Council Action to approve Mitigated Negative
Declaration No. 2004 -03; Specific Plan Amendment No. 93 -3
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(Amendment #7), General Plan Amendment No. 2004 -04, Zone
Change No. 2004 -05, Industrial Design Review No. 2004 -01, and
Conditional Use Permit No. 2004 -02 for "Quality Foam Packaging,
Inc. (F:86.2)
6. Approved agreement with HDL Companies, subject to Minor
Modifications approved by Legal Counsel, for Professional Services
regarding the Redevelopment Agency's Tax Increment Projections.
(F: 134.7)(X:134.1)
BUSINESS ITEMS
None.
PUBLIC COMMENTS — NON- AGENDIZED ITEMS — 3 MINUTES
No comments.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR COMMENTS
No comments.
LEGAL COUNSEL COMMENTS
No comments.
No comments.
DARYL HICKMAN, CHAIRMAN
REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
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Respectfully submitted,
/e' ck Ra , puty Clerk of the Board
AT EST:
VICKI KA�SAD. CL UK OF THE BOARD
REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
MINUTES
REGULAR REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MEETING
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
183 NORTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA
TUESDAY, JUNE 22, 2004
CALL TO ORDER
The Regular Redevelopment Agency Meeting was called to order by Chairman
Hickman at 5:22 p.m.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT:
ABSENT:
BOARDMEMBERS:
BOARDMEMBERS:
BUCKLEY,KELLEY,
MAGEE, SCHIFFNER,
111 to] C4u /_1101
NONE
Also present were: Executive Director Watenpaugh, Assistant Executive
Director Best, Assistant Legal Counsel McClendon, Administrative Services
Director Pressey, Community Development Director Brady, Lake & Aquatic
Resources Director Kilroy, Police Chief Fetherolf, Engineering Manager
Seumalo, Parks & Open Space Manager Fazzio, Planning Manager Villa,
Public Works Manager Payne, Recreation & Tourism Manager Fazzio, City
Treasurer Weber and Clerk of the Board/Human Resources Director Kasad.
CLOSED SESSION
a. CONFERENCE WITH LEGAL COUNSEL - EXISTING
LITIGATION (Subdivision (a) of Gov't Code §54946.9) Elsinore
Christian Center v. City of Lake Elsinore, Redevelopment Agency of the
City of Lake Elsinore (United States District Court Case No. CV 01- 04842).
(F:40.1)(X:52.2)
Assistant Legal Counsel McClendon announced the Closed Session as listed
above.
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THE REGULAR REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MEETING WAS
RECESSED TO CLOSED SESSION AT 5:25 P.M.
The Closed Session discussion was completed at 6:10 p.m.
RECONVENE IN PUBLIC SESSION (7:00 P.M.)
Chairman Hickman reconvened the Regular Redevelopment Agency Meeting in
public session at 8:30 p.m.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT:
ABSENT:
BOARDMEMBERS:
BOARDMEMBERS:
BUCKLEY,KELLEY,
MAGEE, SCHIFFNER,
HICKMAN
NONE
Also present were: Executive Director Watenpaugh, Assistant Executive
Director Best, Assistant Legal Counsel McClendon, Administrative Services
Director Pressey, Community Development Director Brady, Fire Chief
Gallegos, Lake & Aquatic Resources Director Kilroy, Police Chief Fetherolf
Engineering Manager Seumalo, Parks & Open Space Manager Fazzio,
Planning Manager Villa, Public Works Manager Payne, Recreation &
Tourism Manager Fazzio, City Treasurer Weber and Clerk of the
Board/Human Resources Director Kasad.
CLOSED SESSION REPORT
Assistant Legal Counsel McClendon announced that the Redevelopment Agency
Board met in Closed Session as listed on the agenda, with no reportable action.
PUBLIC COMMENTS — NON - AGENDIZED ITEMS —1 MINUTE
No Comments.
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PUBLIC COMMENTS — AGENDIZED ITEMS — 3 MINUTES
No Comments.
CONSENT CALENDAR
The following item was pulled from the Consent Calendar for separate
consideration:
Item No. 2.
MOVED BY BUCKLEY, SECONDED BY KELLEY TO APPROVE THE
BALANCE OF THE CONSENT CALENDAR AS PRESENTED.
1. The following Minutes were approved:
a. Joint Study Session —May 25, 2004. (F:134.3)
ITEM PULLED FROM THE CONSENT CALENDAR
2. Tentative Tract Map 31779 and Tentative Parcel Map No. 31967 — Abbacy
Holding Corp. (F:160.2)
Boardmember Buckley indicated that he had pulled this item for separate
consideration, so the vote could be consistent with the City Council vote.
MOVED BY KELLEY, SECONDED BY SCHIFFNER AND CARRIED BY
A VOTE OF 3 TO 2 WITH BOARDMEMBERS BUCKLEY AND MAGEE
CASTING THE DISSENTING VOTES TO CONCUR WITH COUNCIL
ACTION TO APPROVE TENTATIVE TRACT MAP 31779 AND
TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP NO. 31967 FOR ABBACY HOLDING CORP.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
None.
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BUSINESS ITEMS
None.
PUBLIC COMMENTS — NON - AGENDIZED ITEMS — 3 MINUTES
No Comments.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR COMMENTS
No Comments.
LEGAL COUNSEL COMMENTS
No Comments.
BOARDMEMBER COMMENTS
No Comments.
ADJOURNMENT
THE REGULAR REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MEETING WAS
ADJOURNED AT 8:31 P.M.
RMAN
REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
A EST: /
VICKI KASAD, CMC, CLERK OF THE BOARD
REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
MINUTES
REGULAR REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MEETING
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
183 NORTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA
TUESDAY, JULY 139 2004
CALL TO ORDER
The Regular Redevelopment Agency Meeting was called to order by Chairman
Hickman at 5:30 p.m.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: BOARDMEMBERS: BUCKLEY, KELLEY, MAGEE,
SCHIFFNER, HICKMAN
ABSENT: BOARDMEMBERS: NONE
Also present were: Executive Director Watenpaugh, Assistant Executive
Director Best, Legal Counsel Leibold, Administrative Services Director
Pressey, Community Development Director Brady, Community Services
Director Sapp, Lake & Aquatic Resources Director Kilroy, Police Chief
Fetherolf, Finance Manager Magee, Information /Communications Manager
Dennis, Parks & Open Space Manager Fazzio, Public Works Manager Payne,
Recreation & Tourism. Manager Fazzio, City Treasurer Weber and Clerk of
the Board/Human Resources Director Kasad
CLOSED SESSION
a. , CONFERENCE WITH REAL PROPERTY NEGOTIATOR
(Government Code § 54965.8)(F:40. 1)(X: 134. 10)
Property: A.P.N. 373- 210 -040 & 371 - 030 -021 (Lake
Elsinore Diamond Stadium and parking lot)
Negotiating Parties: Impact Stadium L.L.C. and
The Redevelopment Agency of the City of Lake Elsinore
Under Negotiation: Price and Terms
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Legal Counsel Leibold announced the Closed Session discussion as listed above.
THE REGULAR REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MEETING WAS
RECESSED TO CLOSED SESSION AT 5:31 P.M.
RECONVENE IN PUBLIC SESSION (7:00 P.M.)
Chairman Hickman reconvened the Regular Redevelopment Agency Meeting in
public session at 8:55 p.m.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: COUNCILMEMBERS:
ABSENT: COUNCILMEMBERS:
HICKMAN, KELLEY,
MAGEE, SCHIFFNER,
BUCKLEY
NONE
Also present were: Executive Director Watenpaugh, Assistant Executive
Director Best, Legal Counsel Leibold, Administrative Services Director
Pressey, Community Development Director Brady, Community Services
Director Sapp, Lake & Aquatic Resources Director Kilroy, Police Chief
Fetherolf, Finance Manager Magee, Information /Communications Manager
Dennis, City Treasurer Weber, and Clerk of the Board/Human Resources
Director Kasad.
CLOSED SESSION REPORT
Legal Counsel Leibold reported that the Redevelopment Agency Board met in
Closed Session for discussion of the matter as listed on the Agenda, with no
reportable action.
PUBLIC COMMENTS — NON - AGENDIZED ITEMS —1 MINUTE
No Comments.
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PUBLIC COMMENTS — AGENDIZED ITEMS — 3 MINUTES
Requests were received to address the following item and deferred to that
discussion:
Item No. 5
CONSENT CALENDAR
MOVED BY BUCKLEY, SECONDED BY KELLEY AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR AS
PRESENTED.
1. The following Minutes were approved:
a. Regular Redevelopment Agency Meeting — May 25, 2004. (F:134.3)
b. Regular Redevelopment Agency Meeting — June 8, 2004.
C. Regular Redevelopment Agency Meeting — June 22, 2004.
2. Ratified Warrant List for June 15, 2004. (F:12.3)
3. Concurred with Council Action to Approve the Final Environmental Impact
Report No. 2004 -05, State Clearinghouse No. 2004031090; Tentative Parcel
Map No. 31983; Commercial Design Review Nos. 2003 -12 and 2004 -05;
and Conditional Use Permit Nos. 2003 -17 and 2004 -20 thru 2004 -23 for the
Lake Elsinore Square. (F:58.2)
PUBLIC HEARINGS
None.
BUSINESS ITEMS
4. General Fund Advance Payback Plan from the Agency. (F: 134.1)(X:30.1)
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Administrative Services Director Pressey explained the recommendations
from the RDA Committee for the payback plan for the RDA to pay back the
General Fund. He explained the outstanding balances for 2003; and
detailed the plan proposed by the Committee with an interest rate to be
calculated each July for the previous year plus one percent. He noted that
the average rate of 1.58% would be 2.58% and the amortization would
reflect the payback amount. He explained the reductions this would
produce in interest. He advised that the payback would be amortized over
the remaining life of the last area to sunset in 2037, with the amortization
schedule being recalculated.
MOVED BY BUCKLEY, SECONDED BY MAGEE TO APPROVE THE
PAYBACK RECOMMENDATIONS AND THANK THE RDA
COMMITTEE FOR THEIR WORK.
Boardmember Buckley noted that there would now be a process in place for
staff to proceed.
Boardmember Magee thanked the Committee for a path and roadway to
success.
MOVED BY SCHIFFNER, AN ALTERNATE MOTION TO APPROVE
THE PAYBACK PLAN, BUT NOT PRECLUDE ANY ADDITIONAL
PAYMENTS, SUCH AS SALES OF PROPERTY.
Chairman Hickman noted that with any windfalls, the RDA could accelerate
payments. Administrative Services Director Pressey clarified that the 30%
proposed by the RDA Committee would be on top of this payback plan.
Chairman Hickman stressed that this was an acknowledgement of the debt
and a plan to pay it back. City Treasurer Weber noted that with regard to
taking sales from existing RDA properties and putting it against the loans, it
was important to look at the loans remaining against the things being sold.
He suggested that this was a good plan in the right direction, noting the
payment plan and payment amounts. He indicated that everyone was
thinking the right way to get rid of debt.
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Boardmember Kelley requested clarification of the motion.
THE ORIGINAL MOTION WAS AMENDED WITH CONSENT OF THE
SECOND TO INCLUDE THE ABILITY TO MAKE ADDITIONAL
PAYMENTS FOR UNANTICIPATED SOURCES.
Mayor Buckley left the meeting at 9:03 p.m.
THE MOTION CARRIED BY A VOTE OF 4 TO 0 WITH
BOARDMEMBER BUCKLEY ABSENT.
5. Senior Assisted Living Project. (F:134.10)(X:87.1)
Frank Estrada, 31036 Nebraska Street, indicated that he was not aware of
this Senior Assisted Living project, nor what it would consist of. He
expressed fear that there was a misunderstanding of the problems for low
income seniors; and suggested that Senior Housing did not necessarily mean
low income. He requested a letter of explanation on this project. Chairman
Hickman indicated that staff could provide a report, and noted that the
facility was for people who needed assistance and nursing care, but it was
not for low income housing, Mr. Estrada noted that it could be
misinterpreted. He indicated that it was important to make sure correct
information was provided to people like himself. Executive Director
Watenpaugh concurred that staff could provide a brief presentation, and the
applicant was present to explain what was provided.
Assistant Executive Director Best noted that there had been some
controversy on this project in the discussion earlier today. She advised that
this proposal was provided for general information at a study session in
May, and the Board requested that the RDA Committee review it. She
indicated that the Committee had some financial questions on the financial
plan. She explained that this project was a Senior Assisted Living project,
located at 138 East Graham, in the center of downtown. She detailed the
facility which would include apartments, as well as a care facility. She
indicated that all of the units were intended to be low, low to moderate or
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moderate income standards, but currently they were only moderate, and
efforts were underway to address the other levels. She detailed the services
to be pr ovided for the seniors including transportation and meals. She
indicated that the only requirement would be that they would be at least 62
years of age. She noted that the applicant already had a building permit,
with an extension, so if they choose to proceed, they were ready to do so.
She advised that staff suggested a presentation and the opportunity to
provide a letter of intent in connection with a Small Business Administration
loan; and noted that this was required in the loan approval process. She
indicated that staff could bring more information to the Committee to help
them gain a comfort level with the project. She indicated that it would meet
some of the desire and mandates for the Agency.
Boardmember Buckley returned to the meeting at 9:08 p.m.
Harvey Ryan, Chairman, RDA Committee, indicated that they had looked at
this concept and felt it was a great project; however they needed to know a
little more. He commented that, in concept, it was an answer to a lot of
issues in Lake Elsinore, for low and moderate income housing. He
suggested that it was necessary to figure out a way to make this facility
work, as the seniors would benefit from it and the RDA would also benefit.
He noted that they had questions regarding the business plan and suggested
that the Board roll up their sleeves and make it work. He stressed that there
was a need to move quickly, since it had already been delayed. He further
stressed that the Board needed to try to make this work, and noted that a lot
of people had wanted to do things with the RDA, but this was the one
applicant going through the processes and making presentations. He
suggested making it work quickly.
Ron Hewison, RDA Committee, indicated that he was in favor of the project
conceptually, but it needed to pencil it out and make sure it works. He
stressed the Board's duty to make sure it was fiscally sound. He noted that
the Committee did discuss the matter on July 7th and noted the concerns
expressed in the Minutes. He indicated that he would recommend moving
forward. He indicated that the RDA was looking at a project in Area 1, so
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the benefits might not be immediately available. He addressed the
discussion of affordable living, and noted that the fees would be $2,700 for a
single and $4,500 for a couple. He noted that for a 7,000 square foot
building, it was costing over $1 million; and indicated that he had not seen a
market analysis on the proposed fees. He commented that the agenda
suggested approving $150,000 in financing. He suggested that he should
stand up and recommend support of the project, but indicated that it still
needed more work.
City Treasurer Weber commented that more senior housing was needed and
it was good that a citizen came forward wanting to build it, but there was not
much known about the family. He suggested that the Board was going to be
like a bank, giving out money to people with good ideas, it needed to act like
a bank and determine that the project was fiscally sound. He commented on
the variance between good and bad developers, and suggested this was just a
smaller scale, so it was important to be sure that the person was fiscally
responsible. He suggested that a more well thought out business plan was
needed. He questioned who was certified to do that, and suggested that the
Board should think twice before giving money to the project. He indicated
that there should be a plan to get more affordable senior housing.
Assistant Executive Director Best indicated that staff supports the City
Treasurer's position, so they were recommending support of the Letter of
Intent. She noted that they were not looking for a check, but they were
interested in pursuing a letter of intent at this time to see and allow for
an investigation to make sure it makes financial sense to move forward.
MOVED BY BUCKLEY, SECONDED BY KELLEY TO APPROVE A
LETTER OF INTENT, AND REQUEST THAT THE RDA COMMITTEE
DISCUSS IT AS SOON AFTER THAT AS POSSIBLE.
Boardmember Kelley requested clarification from Mr. Bradley, that the
applicant had qualified for a SBA Loan for over $900,000. Mr. Bradley
explained that the SBA program provides business assistance to business
people with cash to obtain a standard business loan. He clarified that the
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applicant has a good background, records and a plan. He noted that his
bank would be guaranteeing 75% of the loan; and explained the income
limits and revenue limits. He stressed that this applicant was within the
qualifications, and had a business plan worked on by the SBC. He indicated
that the reason they were present was that when they did the debt to value
analysis they realized there was not enough cash planned for the project.
He further indicated that there was housing assistance money set aside for
projects such as this. He advised that the business plan was available and
they would be happy to share it with the Committee, Agency Members, City
Treasurer or anyone else. Assistant Executive Director Best noted that it
had been provided in the packet. Mr. Bradley noted that it was based on
cash flow, and the schedule was dependent on rental rates for low, very low
and moderate levels. He stressed that the facility was intended for people
in need of assistance. He noted that they were working with the City
Attorney, but would commit to maintaining the lower levels.
Boardmember Kelley addressed the City Attorney regarding the Letter of
Intent, and questioned the legal obligation beyond that. Legal Counsel
Leibold indicated that as she understood there was general support of the
commitment, up to $150,000, subject to final approval with covenants.
Boardmember Kelley questioned if there was any legal recourse from that
approval. City Attorney Leibold indicated that the Letter of Intent would be
clear that there was no formal commitment, until the final documents were
approved.
Boardmember Magee clarified that staff would be directed to prepare a letter
of intent to allow for loan documents to begin processing; with the final
package to the RDA Committee before it came back to the RDA Board.
Vice Chairman Schiffner indicated that he hated to see the project drag on
that long, and suggested that there was not an adequate assurance.
Chairman Hickman commented that it had been on the drawing board for
five years.
Mr. Ryan indicated that the Committee would be willing to meet sooner than
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scheduled to accommodate the Board for a decision. He suggested the
possibility of meeting next week. Vice Chairman Schiffner stressed that he
was concerned about the wasted time. Executive Director Watenpaugh
indicated that staff would be happy to work on scheduling a time for the
Committee. Chairman Hickman stressed that he wanted the Committee to
evaluate both the program and the business plan.
THE FOREGOING MOTION CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE.
PUBLIC COMMENTS — NON - AGENDIZED ITEMS — 3 MINUTES
No Comments.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR COMMENTS
No Comments.
LEGAL COUNSEL COMMENTS
No Comments.
BOARDMEMBER COMMENTS
No Comments.
ADJOURNMENT
THE REGULAR REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MEETING WAS
ADJOURNED AT 9:25 P.M.
D H CKMAN, CHAIRMAN
REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
CLERK OF THE BOARD/
HUMAN RESOURCES DIRECTOR
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
MINUTES
REGULAR REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MEETING
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
183 NORTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA
TUESDAY, JULY 27, 2004
CALL TO ORDER
The Regular Redevelopment Agency Meeting was called to order by Chairman
Hickman at 5:40 p.m.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: BOARDMEMBERS: BUCKLEY, KELLEY, MAGEE,
SCHIFFNER, HICKMAN
ABSENT: BOARDMEMBERS: NONE
Also present were: Executive Director Watenpaugh, Assistant Executive
Director Best, Legal Counsel Leibold, Administrative Services Director
Pressey, Community Development Director Brady, Lake & Aquatic
Resources Director Kilroy, Information /Communications Manager Dennis,
Parks & Open Space Manager Fazzio, Public Works Manager Payne,
Recreation & Tourism Manager Fazzio, and Clerk of the Board/Human
Resources Director Kasad.
CLOSED SESSION
a. CONFERENCE WITH REAL PROPERTY NEGOTIATOR
(Government Code § 54965.8) (17:40.1)(X:134.10)
Property: A.P.N. 373 - 210 -040 & 371 - 030 -021 (Lake
Elsinore Diamond Stadium and parking lot)
Negotiating Parties: Impact Stadium L.L.C. and
The Redevelopment Agency of the City of Lake Elsinore
Under Negotiation: Price and Terms
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Legal Counsel Leibold announced the Closed Session discussion item as listed
above.
THE REGULAR REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MEETING WAS
TO CLOSED SESSION AT 5:41 P.M.
The Closed Session discussion was completed at 6:15 p.m.
RECONVENE IN PUBLIC SESSION (7:00 P.M.1
Chairman Hickman reconvened the Regular Redevelopment Agency Meeting in
public session at 11:26 p.m.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: BOARDMEMBERS: BUCKLEY, KELLEY, MAGEE,
SCHIFFNER, HICKMAN
ABSENT: BOARDMEMBERS: NONE
Also present were: Executive Director Watenpaugh, Assistant Executive
Director Best, Legal Counsel Leibold, Administrative Services Director
Pressey, Community Development Director Brady, Fire Chief Gallegos, Lake
& Aquatic Resources Director Kilroy, Police Chief Fetherolf, Engineering
Manager Seumalo, Information /Communications Manager Dennis, Parks &
Open Space Manager Fazzio, Planning Manager Villa, Associate Planner
Morita, and City Clerk/Human Resources Director Kasad.
CLOSED SESSION REPORT
Legal Counsel Leibold reported that the Redevelopment Agency Board met in
Closed Session as listed on the agenda, with no reportable action.
PUBLIC COMMENTS — NON - AGENDIZED ITEMS —1 MINUTE
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No Comments.
PUBLIC COMMENTS — AGENDIZED ITEMS — 3 MINUTES
No Comments.
CONSENT CALENDAR
MOVED BY BUCKLEY, SECONDED BY KELLEY AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR AS
PRESENTED. (It was noted that this approval would include the
concurrent votes as previously cast regarding Agenda Item No. 4.)
1. Ratified Warrant List for July 15, 2004. (F:12.3)
2. Received & ordered filed the Investment Reports for the following items:
a. May, 2004.
b. June, 2004. (F:12.5)
3. Adopted Resolution No. 2004 -1, Confirming Fiscal Year 2004 -05 Special
Taxes — CFD 90 -2 (Tuscany Hills Public Improvements). (F:22.3)
RESOLUTION NO. 2004-1
A RESOLUTION OF THE REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY OF THE
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA, REQUESTING THE
TAX COLLECTOR OF THE COUNTY OF RIVERSIDE TO PLACE
SPECIAL TAXES ON THE BILLS OF CERTAIN PROPERTIES FOR
CFD 90 -2 (TUSCANY HILLS PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS).
4. Concurred with City Council vote to Approve the East Lake Specific Plan
Amendment No. 6, General Plan Amendment No. 2003 -04, Tentative Tract
Map No. 31920, First Amended and Restated Development Agreement, and
Supplemental Environmental Impact Report for East Lake Specific Plan
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Amendment No. 6, subject to modified and additional conditions. The
votes on these items were:
Supplemental Environmental Impact Report — 3 ayes — Buckley &
Hickman casting the dissenting votes.
General Plan Amendment — 3 ayes, Buckley & Hickman casting the
dissenting votes.
Specific Plan Amendment No. 6 — 4 ayes, Buckley casting the
dissenting vote.
Tentative Tract Map 31920 — 4 ayes, Buckley casting the dissenting
vote.
First Amended and Restated Development Agreement — 3 ayes,
Buckley & Hickman casting the dissenting votes. (F:150.2)
PUBLIC HEARINGS
None.
BUSINESS ITEMS
None.
PUBLIC COMMENTS — NON - AGENDIZED ITEMS — 3 MINUTES
No Comments.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR COMMENTS
No Comments.
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LEGAL COUNSEL COMMENTS
No Comments.
BOARDMEMBER COMMENTS
No Comments.
ADJOURNMENT
THE REGULAR REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MEETING WAS
ADJOURNED AT 11:27 P.M.
DARYL HICKMAN, CHAIRMAN
REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
CLERK OF THE BOARD/
HUMAN RESOURCES DIRECTOR
MINUTES
REGULAR REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MEETING
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
183 NORTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA
TUESDAY, AUGUST 10, 2004
CALL TO ORDER
The Regular Redevelopment Agency Meeting was called to order by Chairman
Hickman at 5:25 p.m.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: BOARDMEMBERS: BUCKLEY, MAGEE,
SCHIFFNER, HICKMAN
ABSENT: BOARDMEMBERS: KELLEY
Also present were: Executive Director Watenpaugh, Assistant Executive
Director Best, Legal Counsel Leibold, Administrative Services Director
Pressey, Community Development Director Brady, Community Services
Director Sapp, Lake & Aquatic Resources Director Kilroy, Police Chief
Fetherolf, Information /Communications Manager Dennis, Public Works
Manager Payne, City Treasurer Weber and City Clerk/Human Resources
Director Kasad.
CLOSED SESSION
a. CONFERENCE WITH REAL PROPERTY NEGOTIATOR
(Government Code § 54965.8) (17:40.1)(X:134.10)
Property: A.P.N. 373-210-040 & 371-030-021 (Lake
Elsinore Diamond Stadium and parking lot)
Negotiating Parties: Impact Stadium L.L.C. and
The Redevelopment Agency of the City of Lake Elsinore
Under Negotiation: Price and Terms
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City Attorney Leibold announced the Closed Session discussion item as listed
above.
THE REGULAR REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MEETING WAS
RECESSED AT 5:26 P.M.
THE CLOSED SESSION DISCUSSION WAS COMPLETED AT 6:50 P.M.
RECONVENE IN PUBLIC SESSION (7:00 P.M.)
Chairman Hickman reconvened the Regular Redevelopment Agency in public
session at 8:25 p.m.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: BOARDMEMBERS: BUCKLEY, MAGEE,
SCHIFFNER, HICKMAN
ABSENT: BOARDMEMBERS: KELLEY
Also present were: Executive Director Watenpaugh, Assistant Executive
Director Best, Legal Counsel Leibold, Administrative Services Director
Pressey, Community Development Director Brady, Community Services
Director Sapp, Lake & Aquatic Resources Director Kilroy, Police Chief
Fetherolf, Information /Communications Manager Dennis, Public Works
Manager Payne, City Treasurer Weber and City Clerk/Human Resources
Director Kasad.
CLOSED SESSION REPORT
Legal Counsel Leibold announced that the Closed Session items as listed on the
agenda were discussed, with no reportable action. She noted that there was a fully
executed agreement in place on the Stadium and the due diligence period was
underway.
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PUBLIC COMMENTS — NON - AGENDIZED ITEMS —1 MINUTE
No Comments.
PUBLIC COMMENTS — AGENDIZED ITEMS — 3 MINUTES
No Comments.
CONSENT CALENDAR
MOVED BY BUCKLEY, SECONDED BY MAGEE AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO APPROVE THE
CONSENT CALENDAR AS PRESENTED.
1. The following Minutes were approved:
a. Joint Study Session — June 22, 2004. (F:134.3)
b. Regular Redevelopment Agency Meeting — July 27, 2004.
C. Regular Redevelopment Agency Meeting — July 13, 2004.
2. Ratified Warrant List for July 29, 2004. (F:12.3)
3. Concurred with Council Action to Approve Tentative Parcel Map No. 32611
and Industrial Project No. 2004 -03 "C & C Collier Street Development
Partners Industrial Complex ". (F:110.2)
PUBLIC HEARINGS
None.
BUSINESS ITEMS
None.
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PUBLIC COMMENTS — NON - AGENDIZED ITEMS — 3 MINUTES
No Comments.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR COMMENTS
No Comments.
LEGAL COUNSEL COMMENTS
No Comments.
BOARDMEMBER COMMENTS
No Comments.
ADJOURNMENT
THE REGULAR REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MEETING WAS
ADJOURNED AT 8:26 P.M.
JRMAN
REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
AtiEST: --
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VICKI KASAD, CMC, CLERK OF THE BOARD
REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
MINUTES
REGULAR REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MEETING
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
183 NORTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA
TUESDAY, AUGUST 24, 2004
CALL TO ORDER
The Regular Redevelopment Agency Meeting was called to order by Chairman
Hickman 5:00 p.m.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: COUNCILMEMBERS:
ABSENT: COUNCILMEMBERS:
BUCKLEY,KELLEY,
MAGEE, SCHIFFNER,
HICKMAN
NONE
Also present were: Assistant Executive Director Best, Legal Counsel Leibold,
Administrative Services Director Pressey, Community Development Director
Brady, Community Services Director Sapp, Fire Chief Gallegos, Lake &
Aquatic Resources Director Kilroy, Police Chief Fetherolf, Engineering
Manager Seumalo, Information /Communications Manager Dennis, Public
Works Manager Payne, City Treasurer Weber and Clerk of the Board/
Human Resources Director Kasad.
CLOSED SESSION
A. CONFERENCE WITH REAL PROPERTY NEGOTIATOR
(Government Code § 54965.8) (17:40.1)(X:134.10)
Property: A.P.N. 373-210-040 & 371-030-021 (Lake
Elsinore Diamond Stadium and parking lot)
Negotiating Parties: Impact Stadium L.L.C. and
The Redevelopment Agency of the City of Lake Elsinore
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Under Negotiation: Price and Terms
Legal Counsel Leibold announced the Closed Session discussion item as listed
above.
THE REGULAR REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MEETING WAS
RECESSED TO CLOSED SESSION AT 5:01 P.M.
The Closed Session discussion was completed at 6:30 p.m.
RECONVENE IN PUBLIC SESSION (7:00 P.M.)
Chairman Hickman reconvened the Regular Redevelopment Agency Meeting in
regular session at 9:29 p.m.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: COUNCILMEMBERS:
ABSENT: COUNCILMEMBERS:
BUCKLEY, KELLEY,
MAGEE, SCHIFFNER,
HICKMAN
NONE
Also present were: Assistant Executive Director Best, Legal Counsel Leibold,
Administrative Services Director Pressey, Community Development Director
Brady, Community Services Director Sapp, Fire Chief Gallegos, Lake &
Aquatic Resources Director Kilroy, Police Chief Fetherolf, Engineering
Manager Seumalo, Information /Communications Manager Dennis, Public
Works Manager Payne, City Treasurer Weber and Clerk of the Board/
Human Resources Director Kasad.
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CLOSED SESSION REPORT
Legal Counsel Leibold reported that the Redevelopment Agency Board met in
Closed Session for one item of discussion as listed on the Agenda, with no
reportable action.
PUBLIC COMMENTS — NON - AGENDIZED ITEMS —1 MINUTE
No comments.
PUBLIC COMMENTS — AGENDIZED ITEMS — 3 MINUTES
No comments.
CONSENT CALENDAR
MOVED BY BUCKLEY, SECONDED BY SCHIFFNER AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR AS
PRESENTED.
Chairman Hickman noted that future Warrant Lists would increase the reporting of
income and expenses, for a more full reporting.
Ratified Warrant List for August 16, 2004. (F:12.3)
PUBLIC HEARINGS
None.
BUSINESS ITEMS
None.
PUBLIC COMMENTS — NON - AGENDIZED ITEMS — 3 MINUTES
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No comments.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR COMMENTS
No comments.
LEGAL COUNSEL COMMENTS
No comments.
BOARDMEMBER COMMENTS
No comments.
ADJOURNMENT
THE REGULAR REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MEETING WAS
ADJOURNED AT 9:30 P.M.
YL HICKMAN, CHAIRMAN
REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
ATT ST
VICKI KASAD, CMC, CLERK OF THE BOARD
REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
MINUTES
JOINT CITY COUNCIL/REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
STUDY SESSION
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
183 NORTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA
TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 23, 2003
CALL TO ORDER
Mayor Brinley called the Joint Study Session to order at 4:10 p.m.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT:
ABSENT:
COUNCILMEMBERS:
BUCKLEY, HICKMAN
KELLEY, SCHIFFNER,
BRINLEY
COUNCILMEMBERS: NONE
Also present were: City Manager Watenpaugh, Assistant City Manager
Best, City Attorney Leibold, Administrative Services Director Pressey,
Community Development Director Brady, Community Services
Director Sapp, Lake & Aquatic Resources Director Kilroy,
Information/Communications Manager Dennis, Planning Manager
Villa and Deputy City Clerk Ray.
DISCUSSION ITEMS
City Attorney Leibold indicated there was a closed session item on the
agenda that the City Manager had requested to be continued until he was
able to meet with one of the council members. She indicated that City
Manager Watenpaugh and Councilman Hickman would arrange to meet at
the soonest possible opportunity.
PAGE TWO -STUDY SESSION - SEPTEMBER 23, 2003
Councilman Buckley requested clarification on Item No. 2, No. 74953 of the
Warrant List. Administrative Services Director Pressey was going to
research the purpose of the check and get an answer back to Council before
the 7 p.m. Council Meeting.
Councilman Hickman requested clarification for various checks issued from
Item No. 2, the Warrant List. Staff clarified the checks in question.
Councilman Buckley questioned Item No. 4 re: the Claim against the City
with Philip Estrada Jr./Philip Estrada III. Clarification was given on this
matter by City Manager Watenpaugh.
City Manager Watenpaugh gave an overview of Consent Item No. 5.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
21. Tentative Parcel Man No. 31051- Cornerstone Group.
City Manager Watenpaugh gave an overview of Item No. 21 and
deferred to Planning Manager Villa for further clarification and an
explanation.
Planning Manager Villa indicated that the purpose of this project was to
subdivide 20 acres of vacant land into 24 parcels. He reiterated that it
was a subdivision proposal. The smallest parcel would be .30 of an
acre and the largest would be 5 acres.
Councilman Hickman asked if any of the lots were up to Collier
Avenue or if they were back away from Collier Avenue.
Planning Manager Villa explained that lot 24 which is a 5 acre parcel
was up to Collier, but that lot was not being developed at that rime.
22. Development Agreement with Centex Homes — Ordinance No. 1106.
City Manager Watenpaugh gave an overview of Item No. 22.
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Councilman Hickman questioned the $50,000 amount involved.
City Attorney Leibold explained the fees involved and how they broke
down with the developers. She noted the developer had agreed to
dedicate to the City, a Park, not less than 5 acres with two improved
Little League fields and a fire engine.
Councilman Hickman questioned if a lake would be included in the
project.
City Attorney Leibold explained the preexisting tentative tract maps
and development agreements that had governed the property were
expired, and the existing development agreement did not vest any
specific number of units or any specific development it simply freezes
the applicable land use controls that govern the project. The City
retains all of its regular discretionary authority in reviewing those
entitlements.
Councilman Buckley questioned the wording of No. 3.11 (Park
Improvement Reimbursement Agreement, page 13 of 37) he asked Staff
to explain Section 3.11.
City Attorney Leibold explained that it was a 1996 agreement on the
2728 Holding Corporation there was an offset with respect to monies
owed by the City. She indicated there was an outstanding obligation for
the City.
City Manager Watenpaugh explained it was part of the settlement with
the original property owner. He noted the City had settled their
agreement with the TT Group.
City Attorney Leibold explained that Centex had an equitable interest in
the property they had not closed escrow, nor would they until they
completed the entitlement process; as an equitable owner they had a
legal right to enter into a development agreement approved by the City,
the offset relates the agreement with the existing owner.
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Councilman Buckley asked if it meant that the City had to pay the
equitable owner $1,029,536.
City Attorney Leibold commented Staff would clarify prior to the
second reading that there was no obligation for out of pocket expenses
that it was simply an offset against DAG fees.
Councilman Hickman asked how it would affect existing homeowners
in the Tuscany Hills area.
City Manager Watenpaugh explained that there would be a new CFD
layover for the entire site and there will be separate fees established on
the north end and each home built will reduce the overall debt.
Councilman Buckley requested a change in some verbiage on 8.2
(Subsequent Actions and Approvals) to include: Parties agree that the
MSHCP was not applicable to the property, however parties understand
and expect per discussion with the perspective regulatory agencies, that
a sufficient amount of land was to be set aside that would in fact satisfy
the conditions of the MSHCP.
Mr. Mark Brail, agreed to the change to verbiage.
City Attorney Leibold suggested that she research language from the
proposed implementing agreement and review it to ensure the verbiage
change was correct.
23. Preannexation and Development Agreement with Pacific Clay Products
Inc. - Ordinance No. 1107.
City Manager Watenpaugh deferred to City Attorney Leibold.
City Attorney Leibold indicated that the agreement was similar to the
Centex Agreement, but there were a couple of distinctions that involved
property that was currently within the City's sphere of influence, but
not part of the jurisdictional boundaries. The development agreement
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statute of state law that governed development agreements allowed for
this type of agreement to vest the land use regulation, but it did not vest
any particular development. It required in the event the property was
annexed, that the City evaluate any application for development in
accordance with today's rules and regulations, and the developer would
be required to apply in the normal course of business and in accordance
with the City's procedures for any entitlements. She noted the
development agreement fee under this agreement was $50,000 upon
execution. The initial single family DAG fee in the event single family
occurs on the property was $4,500 per unit for the first five years; in the
event the agreement was extended in accordance with certain
performance criteria the DAG fee increases at the rate of 3.5 % per
year. The distinction between the Centex Agreement at $3,500 and the
Pacific Clay at $4,500 was the off -set for the park Little League Fields
and fire engine at Centex. The Multi Family DAG fee was $3,200 fixed
for five years if the agreement was extended it would increase at the
rate of 3.5% per year. The City also provided for a Commercial and
Industrial DAG fee that would be deferred for 20 years. She explained
that it did not vest any particular development, it simply provided
certainty in the entitlement process.
BUSINESS ITEMS
31. Design Review of Industrial Project No. 2002 -04 and Mitigated
Negative Declaration No. 2003 -02 — located at Pasadena and Central
Streets.
City Manager Watenpaugh deferred to Planning Manager Villa.
Planning Manager Villa explained it was for 21 buildings
approximately 183,000 sq ft. of industrial space and had five building
designs; essentially they were consistent with the industrial park look of
the area. The buildings would range from 5,000 sq ft. to 38,000 sq ft.
Councilwoman Kelley asked if there were any concerns from the
Planning Commission.
PAGE SIX -STUDY SESSION - SEPTEMBER 23, 2003
Mr. Villa indicated that the Planning Commission was concerned with
the Conditions of Approval. He indicated there was a mutual
agreement to change Condition No. 38. Mr. Villa deferred to City
Attorney Leibold.
City Attorney Leibold explained that the existing condition stated: The
applicant shall be required to place the final AC pavement overlay on
the entire width of Central Avenue. She indicated the recommendation
was to add: The existing curb and gutter for Central Avenue shall
remain in place. She indicated the applicant was required to dedicate an
additional 12 ft. of right -of -way to the already existing 88 ft right -of-
way to provide the full 100 feet right -of -way, but will leave the existing
curb and gutter in place the applicant would be required to pave the
existing 72 feet curb to curb.
Councilman Buckley asked if there would be an HOA to maintain the
property.
Mr. Villa indicated that they were going to utilize a C.U.P concept were
they are allowed to sell individual lots, but must require CC &R's to
ensure the whole development is maintained by one entity.
Mayor Pro Tem Schiffner asked if the new signal on that particular
corner, would be located in accordance with the existing curb.
Community Development Director Brady stated that the signal may
need to be relocated.
32. Commercial Project No. 2003 -03- Manufactured Home Sales Lot at
31631 Auto Center Drive.
City Manager Watenpaugh gave an overview of the item.
Mr. Villa explained that it was a design review for a commercial
project, to establish five pre - manufactured homes for sale lot.
PAGE SEVEN -STUDY SESSION - SEPTEMBER 23, 2003
Councilman Hickman indicated he had seen a few more manufactured
homes in the city area. He asked if there was a way to prevent
manufactured homes in Lake Elsinore. He noted he did not see a lot of
manufactured homes in Murrieta and Temecula.
City Manager Watenpaugh indicated the planning staff had upgraded
the standards and requiring additional landscaping. He further
indicated the City could not prevent manufactured homes.
City Attorney Leibold indicated the City could not prohibit a
manufactured home. The City could only impose design requirements.
Councilman Hickman asked if Staff could make stucco a requirement.
City Attorney Leibold indicated the City would need to provide
uniform design requirements in the same zones.
33. Request for Waiver of Fees - Elsinore Valley Friends Church/PrUer
Forces, Inc.
City Manager Watenpaugh indicated the item was pulled off the
agenda.
34. Consultant contract Award for Machado Street Pavement Rehabilitation.
City Manager Watenpaugh gave an overview of the item. He indicated
Staff had evaluated three major areas to do slurry and overlays; after
evaluating Machado it was concluded it needed some reconstruction.
He deferred to City Engineer O'Donnell.
City Engineer O'Donnell indicated that three streets were evaluated and
Harris & Associates had done an estimate of all three streets and it was
over budget so it was paired down to one street; and Staff agreed
Machado would be a good candidate to repair. Harris & Associates had
given a proposal of $29,000.
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Mayor Brinley asked about Franklin Avenue.
City Engineer O'Donnell indicated that it was eliminated this year. He
indicated that there was more traffic on Machado than Franklin. He
explained Franklin Street had concrete under the pavement and it would
be expensive once staff starts removing the pavement.
35. City Manager's Contract.
Mayor Brinley indicated there would be a motion at the 7 p.m. meeting
to continue the item.
REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
Chairwoman Kelley gave an overview of the RDA Agenda. She stated there
were no items.
City Attorney Leibold stated there was one item on the closed session for the
RDA for ongoing negotiation on real property between ICC and the Agency
in connection with the Lake Elsinore Diamond Stadium.
ADJOURNMENT
THE JOINT CITY COUNCIL/REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
MEETING WAS ADJOURNED AT 5:10 P.M.
PAMELA BRINLEY, MAYOR
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
PAGE NINE -STUDY SESSION - SEPTEMBER 23, 2003
KELLEY CHAIRWO�
'ELOPMENT AGENCY
Respectfully submitted,
Frederick Ray, Deputy City Clerk
ATTEST:
CKI KASAD, CMC, CITY CLERK/
HUMAN RESOURCES DIRECTOR
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
MINUTES
REGULAR REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MEETING
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
183 NORTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA
TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 14, 2004
CALL TO ORDER
The Regular Redevelopment Agency Meeting was called to order by Chairman
Hickman at 5:05 p.m.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: BOARDMEMBERS: BUCKLEY, KELLEY, MAGEE,
SCHIFFNER, HICKMAN
ABSENT: BOARDMEMBERS: NONE
Also present were: Executive Director Watenpaugh, Assistant Executive
Director Best, Legal Counsel Leibold, Administrative Services Director
Pressey, Community Development Director Brady, Community Services
Director Sapp, Lake & Aquatic Resources Director Kilroy, Engineering
Manager Seumalo, Information /Communications Manager Dennis, Parks &
Open Space Manager Fazzio, Planning Manager Villa, Public Works
Manager Payne, Recreation & Tourism Manager Fazzio, City Treasurer
Weber and City Clerk/Human Resources Director Kasad.
CLOSED SESSION
a. CONFERENCE WITH REAL PROPERTY NEGOTIATOR
(Government Code § 54965.8) (17:40.1)(X:134.10)
Property: A.P.N. 373- 210 -040 & 371- 030 -021 (Lake
Elsinore Diamond Stadium and parking lot)
Negotiating Parties: Impact Stadium L.L.C. and
The Redevelopment Agency of the City of Lake Elsinore
Under Negotiation: Price and Terms
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Legal Counsel Leibold announced the Closed Session discussion item as listed
above.
THE REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING WAS RECESSED TO
CLOSED SESSION AT 5:07 P.M.
The Closed Session discussion was completed at 7:05 p.m.
RECONVENE IN PUBLIC SESSION (7:00 P.M.)
Chairman Hickman reconvened the Regular Redevelopment Agency Meeting at
7:57 p.m.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: BOARDMEMBERS: BUCKLEY, KELLEY, MAGEE,
SCHIFFNER, HICKMAN
ABSENT: BOARDMEMBERS: NONE
Also present were: Executive Director Watenpaugh, Assistant Executive
Director Best, Legal Counsel Leibold, Administrative Services Director
Pressey, Community Development Director Brady, Community Services
Director Sapp, Lake & Aquatic Resources Director Kilroy, Police chief
Fetherolf, Engineering Manager Seumalo, Finance Manager Magee,
Information /Communications Manager Dennis, Parks & Open Space
Manager Fazzio, Planning Manager Villa, Police Lt. Anderson, Public Works
Manager Payne, Recreation & Tourism Manager Fazzio, City Treasurer
Weber and City Clerk/Human Resources Director Kasad.
CLOSED SESSION REPORT
City Attorney Leibold announced that the Redevelopment Agency Board met in
Closed Session regarding the ongoing discussions as listed on the Agenda; and
under the terms of the Lease Agreement there was a 30 day due diligence period
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which had expired. She indicated that the RDA Board had directed her to send
Notice of Termination to Impact Stadium, as they have not satisfied the RDA
Board in the due diligence process. She advised that upon receipt of the letter,
Impact would have 15 days to provide information to satisfy the Board; and noted
that she looked forward to reviewing their information.
PUBLIC COMMENTS — NON- AGENDIZED ITEMS —1 MINUTE
No Comments.
PUBLIC COMMENTS — AGENDIZED ITEMS — 3 MINUTES
No Comments.
CONSENT CALENDAR
MOVED BY KELLEY, SECONDED BY BUCKLEY AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR AS
PRESENTED.
The following Minutes were approved:
a. Joint Study Session — July 13, 2004. (F:134.3)
b. Joint Study Session — July 27, 2004.
C. Regular Redevelopment Agency Meeting — July 27, 2004.
d. Regular Redevelopment Agency Meeting — August 10, 2004.
e. Regular Redevelopment Agency Meeting — August 24, 2004.
2. Ratified Warrant List for August 31, 2004. (F:12.3)
Concurred with Council Action to remove the Rescheduling of September
28`h Meeting item from the agenda. (F: 134.1)(X:44.1)
4. Concurred with Council Action to Approve Industrial Project No. 2004 -02
for the Vanderhoek Industrial Buildings. (F:86.2)
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PUBLIC HEARINGS
None.
BUSINESS ITEMS
None.
PUBLIC COMMENTS — NON - AGENDIZED ITEMS — 3 MINUTES
Donald Ash, 1131 Mill Street, addressed the salaries of employees of the City. He
indicated that he was outraged by the amount of salaries paid to the employees of
the City. He advised that he was a retired school teacher on a pension in the
poverty range, but he was helping to pay the City salaries. He questioned how the
salaries got to this point without him knowing about it. He noted that Mayor Pro
Tem Kelley was a school teacher, and inquired if her salary was near the staff
salaries. He questioned how these salaries were justified, in comparison to hers,
as her job was one of the most important. He commented that he could not even
go to the Senior Center and get a cup of coffee. He indicated that he would lay it
at the feet of the City Manager, and commented that he does not call back, as he is
only interested in talking to developers. He indicated that the rest of the people
had a right to be heard in the City. He suggested that the Council needed to
address the issue of salaries, as the community was not getting the services they
deserved. He commended the Public Works Department and Mr. Payne, noting
their attitude of service to the community. He indicated that they either helped
right away or told people why they could not; and noted that people don't get calls
back from other departments. He commented that the City was not trying to get
ahead of Temecula as far as development, and stressed that he was upset by the
attitude of the City.
City Manager Watenpaugh commented that the City staff would be serving coffee
at the Senior Center until 11 a.m.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR COMMENTS
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No Comments.
LEGAL COUNSEL COMMENTS
No Comments.
BOARDMEMBER COMMENTS
No Comments.
ADJOURNMENT
THE REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING WAS ADJOURNED AT 8:02
P.M.
DARYL HICKMAN, CHAIRMAN
REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
CLERK OF THE BOARD
REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
MINUTES
REGULAR REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MEETING
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
183 NORTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA
TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 28, 2004
CALL TO ORDER
The Regular Redevelopment Agency Meeting was called to order at 5:00 p.m. by
Chairman Hickman.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: BOARDMEMBERS: KELLEY, MAGEE, SCHIFFNER,
HICKMAN
ABSENT: BOARDMEMBERS: BUCKLEY
Also present were: Assistant Executive Director Best, Legal Counsel Leibold,
Administrative Services Director Pressey, Community Development Director
Brady, Community Services Director Sapp, Lake & Aquatic Resources
Director Kilroy, Engineering Manager Seumalo, Information/
Communications Manager Dennis, Parks & Open Space Manager Fazzio,
Planning Manager Villa, Recreation & Tourism Manager Fazzio, City
Treasurer Weber and Clerk of the Board/Human Resources Director Kasad.
CLOSED SESSION
a. CONFERENCE WITH REAL PROPERTY NEGOTIATOR
(Government Code § 54965.8) (17:40.1)(X:134.10)
Property: A.P.N. 373 -210 -040 & 371 - 030 -021 (Lake
Elsinore Diamond Stadium and parking lot)
Negotiating Parties: Impact Stadium L.L.C. and
The Redevelopment Agency of the City of Lake Elsinore
Under Negotiation: Price and Terms
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Legal Counsel Leibold announced the Closed Session discussion item as listed
above.
THE REGULAR REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MEETING WAS
RECESSED AT 5:01 P.M.
The Closed Session discussion was completed at 6:10 p.m.
RECONVENE IN PUBLIC SESSION (7:00 P.M.1
Chairman Hickman reconvened the Regular Redevelopment Agency Meeting in
Public Session at 8:09 p.m.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: BOARDMEMBERS: KELLEY, MAGEE, SCHIFFNER,
HICKMAN
ABSENT: BOARDMEMBERS: BUCKLEY
Also present were: Assistant Executive Director Best, Legal Counsel Leibold,
Administrative Services Director Pressey, Community Development Director
Brady, Community Services Director Sapp, Lake & Aquatic Resources
Director Kilroy, Police Chief Fetherolf, Engineering Manager Seumalo,
Information /Communications Manager Dennis, Parks & Open Space
Manager Fazzio, Planning Manager Villa, Recreation & Tourism Manager
Fazzio, City Treasurer Weber and Clerk of the Board/Human Resources
Director Kasad.
CLOSED SESSION REPORT
City Attorney Leibold advised that the Redevelopment Agency Board met in
Closed Session as listed on the agenda; and unanimously approved a Termination
Agreement on the Lease and Purchase Option, previously approved with Impact
Stadium LLC. She indicated that the agreement provided for a joint press release
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between the RDA and Impact, which would be available from Information/
Communications Manager Dennis to the press.
PUBLIC COMMENTS — NON - AGENDIZED ITEMS —1 MINUTE
Donald Ash, 1131 Mill Street, commended the Boy Scouts on their achievements,
and stressed that Eagle Scout was a high rank to reach and not too many boys
achieve it. He further commended Mayor Pro Tern Kelley, noting that she was
instrumental in bringing the philharmonic to the community. He noted that he
loves classical music and the Philharmonic is a great organization. He commented
that on other issues he could not commend Mrs. Kelley's efforts, noting that she
and the Board had not objected to anything. He indicated that the administration
of the City needed to be reminded that the Council was in control of the City, not
the City Manager. He further noted Mrs. Kelley's past bankruptcy.
PUBLIC COMMENTS — AGENDIZED ITEMS — 3 MINUTES
Requests were received to address Item No. 5 and deferred to that discussion.
CONSENT CALENDAR
The following item was pulled from the Consent Calendar for further discussion
and consideration:
Item No. 5.
MOVED BY MAGEE, SECONDED BY KELLEY AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO APPROVE THE BALANCE OF THE CONSENT
CALENDAR AS PRESENTED.
The following Minutes were approved:
a. Joint Study Session — August 10, 2004. (F:134.3)
b. Joint Study Session — August 24, 2004.
C. Regular Redevelopment Agency Meeting — September 14, 2004.
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2. Ratified the Warrant List for September 15, 2004. (F:12.3)
3. Concurred with Council Action to Approve Tentative Condominium Map
No. 32670 & Residential Design Review No. 2004 -10. (F:138.2)
4. Concurred with Council Action to process the Biennial Review of the
Conflict of Interest Code for the City of Lake Elsinore and the
Redevelopment Agency of the City of Lake Elsinore, as required by law.
(F:116.5)
ITEM PULLED FROM THE CONSENT CALENDAR
5. Request to Proceed — Laing; — C.P. Lake Elsinore, L.L.C. (F:150.2)
Donald Ash, 1131 Mill Street, noted that he brought this matter up last time
and reiterated that he and Mr. Kelley were on the Water District at the same
time. He indicated that they were on opposite sides and also indicated that
Boardmember Schiffner would consider him a naysayer. He commented
that a lot had been done wrong in the City, and he wanted to be sure the
dollars were going to the right places. He indicated that money talks and
many things get done that shouldn't and vice versa. He commented that
there was a promise that there would be no houses built in the floodplain if
the Water District accepted a loan for the levee, but the City Council
approved building houses in the floodplain. He indicated that if there was a
flood the levee would not stop flooding in the back basin, but the customers
of the Water District are paying for it. He noted that Mr. Kelley approved
of the levee, and the political power pushed it through. He stressed the
immediate agreement that they would not put houses there. He questioned
the honesty of that action, and stressed that the citizens should expect
honesty from the City Council. He indicated that it was a bad operation,
and the City did not have the money to pay big salaries to the staff. He
noted that Boardmember Kelley is a teacher and questioned why she
approved of people making so much more money than she makes.
Chris Hyland, 15191 Wavecrest, addressed Mr. Ash confirming his
comments. She indicated that she attended the 4 p.m. meeting and was
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concerned when Chairman Hickman asked about the $68 million CFD for
Laing Homes. She indicated that it was misconstrued, and noted that it had
been a topic of conversation for the last month, throughout the City. She
indicated that people were discussing it, and the taxpayers were owed the
opportunity to say how much they want to front on the CFD. She
questioned who Legal Counsel Leibold served, the City or the Developers.
She suggested that Ms. Leibold had a close relationship with the developers.
Legal Counsel Leibold indicated that to her knowledge Laing had submitted
a very initial request for CFD and provided the deposit to study the scope.
She further indicated that to her knowledge there had been no number
discussed on the size of the proposed CFD. She noted that in response to
City Council concerns, the discussion of CFD's had been postponed entirely.
She suggested that the discussion was about misinformation, as there was no
present request for a particular size CFD, but only the indication that they
will be requesting one. She commented that with regard to Mrs. Hyland's
second comment, she took great offense. She stressed that her commitment
to serve the City was uncompromised, and she represents the City and the
RDA to the best of her ability. She noted that there was also a team of
professional managers serving the Council. She indicated that if she had a
conversation with developer's counsel or the development team, it was a by-
product of ongoing negotiations. She apologized for impressions, but noted
that she was deeply saddened if that was the perception of the community.
Assistant Executive Director Best indicated that there was a rumor on the
$68 million CFD, and noted that the Agency had approved forming a CFD at
some point, but the development team had forestalled the discussion
completely at this point so there was no exact amount being discussed. She
stressed that there were only some initial conversations months ago.
Boardmember Magee addressed this item and requested a report from
Council. Legal Counsel Leibold detailed the item for consideration of a
request from Laing Homes for a Notice to Proceed. She explained that in
accordance with the Disposition and Development Agreement, the developer
is to request a Notice to Proceed, when they believe they have the ability to
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proceed with the acquisition of the Agency property. She advised that the
request included all required information for the D.D.A. She indicated that
the Agency could not unreasonably withhold the approval. She noted that
there was a purchase price of $4 million to be paid out over time and
recommended authorization of the Notice of Proceed.
City Treasurer Weber indicated that with regard to the lawsuit, he would ask
that any approvals be set aside. Legal Counsel Leibold indicated that the
Notice to Proceed is to be provided if certain conditions have been met,
including City Council approval, which had already occurred. She clarified
that the lawsuit did not unravel the existing entitlements. City Treasurer
Weber questioned the lawsuit ordering that all approvals of the specific plan
be set aside. Legal Counsel Leibold indicated that it was a petition which
did not impact this request. City Treasurer Weber inquired if there was
value in preserving the spirit of good will with the County. He suggested
that this action would only make them more angry. Legal Counsel Leibold
indicated that she would defer to the Boardmembers with regard to working
with the County, but the pending litigation would not preclude this
authorization to proceed. Chairman Hickman noted his earlier questions,
but clarified that this action related to the D.D.A. He indicated that he had
asked Mr. Filler about the CFD for $68 million, and was informed that they
were still working on that issue; so he was not sure where the discussion
came from, but it carried no weight.
MOVED BY KELLEY, SECONDED BY SCHIFFNER AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO AUTHORIZE THE
AGENCY COUNSEL TO PREPARE AND DELIVER A NOTICE TO
PROCEED TO LAING -CP, PURSUANT TO SECTION 306 OF THE DDA.
BUSINESS ITEMS
6. Request for Proposals — Professional Redevelopment Consultants. (F:134.1)
Legal Counsel Leibold noted that the RDA Advisory Committee and Board
had asked preparation of a Request for Proposals for an amendment to the
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RDA Plan to increase the tax increment plan cap on Project Area 1. She
noted that it was to include possible additional amendments to Project Areas
2 and 3. She explained that the intent was to solicit proposals for
redevelopment consultants for each scope of services. She indicated that the
final scope had not yet been determined. She explained that the driving
force was the proposed increase in the Project Area 1 cap. She indicated that
there was a list of RDA consultants which she would propose to send the
RFP to. She noted that there was a fairly short response time until October
18"`. She commented that the anticipation was that the RDA Committee
would review the proposals and make a recommendation at the second
meeting in October, so the process can be commenced to address the cap.
Chairman Hickman noted that the main objective was to correct the situation
where the increment was over the cap, and this would allow the increase to
capture additional dollars. He indicated that it would also address Project
Areas 2 and 3 and bring them into compliance. He commented that there
was also the potential for looking at eminent domain, but there were
arguments on either side. He indicated that he did not think he would accept
eminent domain on a home, but he would for vacant property.
MOVED BY MAGEE, SECONDED BY SCHIFFNER AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO AUTHORIZE THE
DISTRIBUTION OF THE RFP TO PROFESSIONAL REDEVELOPMENT
CONSULTANTS AND ANY OTHER INTERESTED PARTIES AND THAT
AGENCY STAFF AND THE REDEVELOPMENT ADVISORY
COMMITTEE REVIEW THE RFP RESPONSES AND PROVIDE A
RECOMMENDATION TO THE AGENCY BOARD FOR SELECTION OF
A QUALIFIED CONSULTANT.
PUBLIC COMMENTS — NON - AGENDIZED ITEMS — 3 MINUTES
No Comments.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR COMMENTS
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No Comments.
LEGAL COUNSEL COMMENTS
No Comments.
BOARDMEMBER COMMENTS
No Comments.
ADJOURNMENT
THE REGULAR REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MEETING WAS
ADJOURNED AT 8:31 P.M.
fl'
DARYL HICKMAN, CHAIRMAN
REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
OF THE BOARD/
HUMAN RESOURCES DIRECTOR
MINUTES
REGULAR REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MEETING
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
183 NORTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA
TUESDAY, OCTOBER 26, 2004
CALL TO ORDER
The Regular Redevelopment Agency Meeting was called to order by Chairman
Hickman at 8:06 p.m.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT:
ABSENT:
BOARDMEMBERS:
BOARDMEMBERS:
BUCKLEY,KELLEY,
MAGEE, SCHIFFNER,
HICKMAN
NONE
Also present were: Assistant Executive Director Best, Legal Counsel Leibold,
Administrative Services Director Pressey, Community Development Director
Brady, Community Services Director Sapp, Lake & Aquatic Resources
Director Kilroy, Police Chief Fetherolf, Engineering Manager Seumalo,
Planning Manager Villa, Public Works Manager Payne, Recreation &
Tourism Manager Fazzio, City Treasurer Weber, Clerk of the Board Kasad.
PUBLIC COMMENTS — NON - AGENDIZED ITEMS —1 MINUTE
No Comments.
PUBLIC COMMENTS — AGENDIZED ITEMS — 3 MINUTES
No Comments.
CONSENT CALENDAR
MOVED BY KELLEY, SECONDED BY BUCKLEY AND CARRIED BY
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UNANIMOUS VOTE TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR AS
PRESENTED.
1. The following Minutes were approved:
a. Joint Study Session — September 28, 2004. (F:134.3)
b. Regular Redevelopment Agency Meeting — October 12, 2004.
2. Ratified Warrant List for October 14, 2004. (F:12.3)
3. Concurred with Council Action to Approve the Design Review of
Residential Project No. R 2004 -06. (F:138.2)
BUSINESS ITEM
4. RDA Committee Appointment. (F:134.1)
Boardmember Schiffner noted that his appointee to this Committee, Rita
Wilsey, had found that her business obligations were too heavy to allow her
participation, so she had submitted her resignation. He appointed Donald
Lower to fill this vacancy.
PUBLIC COMMENTS — NON - AGENDIZED ITEMS — 3 MINUTES
No Comments.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR COMMENTS
No Comments.
LEGAL COUNSEL COMMENTS
No Comments.
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BOARDMEMBER COMMENTS
Boardmember Hickman noted that he had requested a Street Sweeping Study
Session, which had been cancelled. He indicated that he met with the management
at CR & R and found that their objective was to clean streets, not issue tickets. He
further indicated that Code Enforcement Officers would not return to an area after
the street sweeper had gone through. He explained that the importance of street
sweeping was to keep the Lake and the City clean.
ADJOURNMENT
THE REGULAR REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MEETING WAS
ADJOURNED AT 8:10 P.M.
Az�
DARYL HICKMAN, CHAIRMAN
REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
"CMC, CLERK OF THE BOARD
REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
MINUTES
REGULAR REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MEETING
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
183 NORTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA
TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 9, 2004
CALL TO ORDER
The Regular Redevelopment Agency Meeting was called to order by Chairman
Hickman at 5:15 p.m.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: COUNCILMEMBERS:
ABSENT: COUNCILMEMBERS
HICKMAN, KELLEY,
MAGEE, SCHIFFNER,
BUCKLEY
PLOW "
Also present were: Executive Director Watenpaugh, Assistant Executive
Director Best, Legal Counsel Leibold, Administrative Services Director
Pressey, Community Development Director Brady, Community Services
Director Sapp, Lake & Aquatic Resources Director Kilroy, Building & Safety
Manager Chipman, Engineering Manager Seumalo, Finance Manager Magee,
Parks & Open Space Manager Fazzio, Planning Manager Villa, Public Works
Manager Payne, City Treasurer Weber and Clerk of the Board Kasad.
CLOSED SESSION
a. CONFERENCE WITH LEGAL COUNSEL — EXISTING
LITIGATION (Subdivision (a) of Gov't Code § 54956.9)
Camelot Property Counselors, Inc. v. City of Lake Elsinore /Redevelopment
Agency of the City of Lake Elsinore (U.S. Bankruptcy Court Case No.
RS01- 14823DN)(F:52.2)(X:40.1)
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RECONVENE IN PUBLIC SESSION (7:00 P.M.)
Chairman Hickman reconvened the Regular Redevelopment Agency Meeting in
public session at 8:19 p.m.
CLOSED SESSION REPORT
Legal Counsel Leibold announced that the Camelot Litigation was discussed as
listed on the agenda, and a final settlement had been reached, with the
Redevelopment Agency receiving about $15,000.
PUBLIC COMMENTS — NON - AGENDIZED ITEMS —1 MINUTE
No Comments.
PUBLIC COMMENTS — AGENDIZED ITEMS — 3 MINUTES
No Comments.
CONSENT CALENDAR
MOVED BY BUCKLEY, SECONDED BY KELLEY AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR AS
PRESENTED.
The following Minutes were approved:
a. Joint City Council/Redevelopment Agency Study Session — October
12, 2004.
b. Regular Redevelopment Agency Meeting - October 26, 2004.
(F:134.3)
2. Ratified Warrant List for October 28, 2004. (F:12.3)
Concurred with City Council Action to hold the regular Meetings of
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November 23 and December 28, 2004 as scheduled. (F: 134.1)(X:44.1)
4. Concurred with City Council Action to Approve Zone Change No. 2004 -11
and Commercial Design Review No. 2004 -06 for the Best Western Hotel.
(17:58.2)
BUSINESS ITEM
Selection of Redevelopment Plan Consultant for Proposed Plan Amendment.
(17:134.1)
Chairman Hickman deferred to RDA Committee Chairman Harvey Ryan to
address this item.
RDA Committee Chairman Ryan indicated that the City Attorney prepared
the bid package for distribution, with the primary intent to look at raising the
cap in Project Area No. 1. He advised that two proposals were received and
reviewed by the Committee, and Keyser Marston's was determined to be the
most comprehensive. He highlighted the options to the proposal, but
stressed the importance of getting the work done by June. He noted that the
City Attorney was going to go back to the people on the proposals to clarity
the costs. He indicated that the amount of money being spent was miniscule
compared to the amount that could be lost.
MOVED BY BUCKLEY, SECONDED BY MAGEE AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO APPROVE THE SELECTION OF KEYSER
MARSTON AND AUTHORIZE THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR TO
EXECUTE A PROFESSIONAL SERVICES CONTRACT, SUBJECT TO
THE APPROVAL OF THE CONTRACT FORM NEGOTIATED BY THE
CITY ATTORNEY.
PUBLIC COMMENTS — NON - AGENDIZED ITEMS — 3 MINUTES
No Comments.
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No Comments.
LEGAL COUNSEL COMMENTS
No Comments.
BOARDMEMBER COMMENTS
No Comments.
ADJOURNMENT
The Regular Redevelopment Agency Meeting was adjourned at 8:25 p.m.
RYL HICKMAN, CHAIRMAN
REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
CLERK/
HUMAN RESOURCES DIRECTOR
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
MINUTES
JOINT CITY COUNCIL/REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
STUDY SESSION
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
183 NORTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA
TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 23, 2004
CALL TO ORDER
Mayor Pro Tern Kelley called the Joint Study Session to order at 4:05 p.m.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: HICKMAN, KELLEY,
MAGEE, SCHIFFNER,
ABSENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: BUCKLEY(Mayor Buckley
arrived at 4:15 p.m.)
Also present were: City Manager Watenpaugh, Assistant City Manager Best,
City Attorney Leibold, Administrative Services Director Pressey, Community
Development Director Brady, Community Services Director Sapp, Lake &
Aquatic Resources Director Kilroy, Public Works Manager Payne,
Recreation/Tourism Manager Fazzio, Parks & Open Space Manager Fazzio,
Building & Safety Manager Chipman, Engineering Manager Seumalo, City
Treasurer Weber, and Deputy City Clerk Ray.
DISCUSSION ITEMS
Mayor Pro Tern Kelley started the meeting in the absence of Mayor Buckley.
PUBLIC COMMENTS
Bill Tiitto questioned when staff would be fixing the flooding on Lakeshore Drive
between Chaney Street and Riverside Drive. Mayor Pro Tern Kelley indicated that
either City Manager Watenpaugh or Public Works Manager Payne would respond
to his question.
PAGE TWO STUDY SESSION MINUTES — NOVEMBER 23, 2004
CONSENT CALENDAR
1. Minutes.
Ron Hewison, 35 Villa Valtelena, commented on item lc. He indicated that the
Planning Commission Meeting for November 2, 2004, at the Planning
Commission level approved the October 19, 2004, Planning Commission
Minutes, at the October 19th meeting the Lusk, Brehm, Pulte issue was
discussed and agreed. He indicated that the developer agreed to some flip flops
on some lots, during the presentation there were some misstatements made, that
were corrected during the October 19d' meeting. He indicated that the minutes
were not presented at the November 2 "d meeting. He indicated that the minutes
for the November 2 n meeting were not posted on the internet, therefore he did
not attend the November 2nd meeting, the October 19th were agendized for the
November 16th meeting. He indicated that he attended that meeting to point out
the minutes were inaccurate. He further indicated that the Planning staff had
since reviewed the tape and confirmed that the October 19th minutes were
inaccurate. He indicated that the Planning Department was working with the
developer to change the site plan; and he thought that everything agreed upon
during the October 19`h Meeting were being adhered to. Mr. Hewison indicated
that he was reluctant to allow the Council the November 2 "d minutes which by
implication approved the October 19th minutes, which were being amended. He
indicated that he wanted to make sure that when Council approved the
November 2 "d minutes, Council should not be approving the October 19th
minutes within that. He suggested holding the approval of the October 19th
minutes until the issues that were agreed upon were in writing.
Mayor Buckley arrived at the Council meeting at 4:15 p.m.
2. Warrant List: November 23, 2004.
Councilman Hickman requested clarification on various checks issued on the
warrant list; and staff clarified.
PAGE THREE STUDY SESSION MINUTES — NOVEMBER 23, 2004
3. Investment Report — July — September, 2004.
No comments.
4. Disposal of Surplus Electronics as scrap.
No comments.
5. Digital Conversion of microfiche records — Bid America - $17,500.
No comments.
6. Authorization to prepare CEQA Compliance Documents — Lakeview Villas.
No comments.
7. Amend the contract for CEQA Compliance -North Tuscany Hills.
No comments.
8. Fire Engine Purchase for Canyon Hiss Fire Station - $350,000.
No comments.
9. Four Corners Paving Project -Lehr Dr, Illinois St, Kansas St, Nebraska St and
. Wisconsin St - $76,878.
Bill Tiitto, 32296 Machado Street, inquired when there would be work
completed at the four corners intersection (Lakeshore Drive and Riverside
Drive). City Manager Watenpaugh indicated that the circulation plan was to be
addressed later at the 7 p.m. Council Meeting.
Public Works Manager Payne indicated that in regard to the drainage issue near
Chaney, the Engineer Staff was addressing designing larger piping through the
area that would carry the flow coming through the Country Club Heights area;
and that would possibly be addressed in the next year's budget. City
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Manager Watenpaugh clarified it would be addressed and prioritized by
Council.
10. 2004/05 Vehicle Replacement Program — Four Pickup Trucks- $72,932.28.
Councilman Magee questioned the age of the existing vehicles being replaced.
Public Works Manager Payne indicated that the S l Os and 1 full size would be
rotated down into the Public Works Fleet and some older vehicles would be
sold. He indicated that 10 years or 100,000 miles was the standard and the
vehicles were rotated out of the fleet and the newer vehicles were rotated
down. Councilman Magee clarified that the older vehicles drop out. Public
Works Manager Payne confirmed and indicated that the dropped out vehicles
were sold at auctions and the money put back into the General Fund.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
21. Amended Tentative Tract Map No. 30493 (Canyon Hills Specific Plan).
No comments.
22. Amendment No. 1 to Tentative Parcel Map No. 30395 located on Pasadena
Street from Central Avenue to Third Street.
No comments.
BUSINESS ITEMS
31. Second Reading — Ordinance No. 1131.
No comments.
32. Second Reading —Ordinance No. 1132.
No comments.
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33. Request by City Treasurer Weber to Approve a Financial Audit of 2003 Series
H Bond, Issued on October 1, 2003 - $10,000.
Mayor Buckley deferred to City Treasurer Weber for comments. City
Treasurer Weber indicated that Administrative Services Director Pressey
assisted him in writing the report. He indicated that they were going to follow
the money trail. He indicated that he received a letter from Citibank stating
that they were in favor of the audit and they thought it should be done.
Bill Tiitto, commented on the stadium bonds and questioned the placement of
the funds. Mayor Buckley indicated that the money went to construction and a
series of refinancing.
34. 211 Referral System - $3,761.
Mayor Buckley indicated the item came before WRCOG and other cities and
the County was in the process of helping to fund the item.
35. First reading —Ordinance N0. 1133.
No comments.
36. Resolution No. 2004 -66.
Councilman Magee referred to the language. He indicated the language was
listed as "relating to the elimination of the office." He suggested rewording it
to say "offering voters a choice as to selection of the Treasurer either by
election of appointment." He also commented on the Ordinance. He suggested
the wording be changed to "shall the office of the Treasurer continue to be
elected ?"
City Attorney Leibold indicated that the language of the measure was dictated
by the Government Code.
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Mayor Buckley questioned the ability to change the word "elimination ". City
Attorney Leibold indicated that it could be changed, as it was an item for
identification for the agenda it had no legislative affect. Mayor Buckley
indicated that it was stated in the Resolution.
Mayor Buckley inquired if Councilman Magee had a suggestion for wording
regarding the language using the word elimination.
Councilman Magee suggested the following — "Offering the voters a choice as
to the selection of the Treasurer either by election or by appointment."
37. Application for Planning Commission.
City Manager Watenpaugh gave an overview of the item. He indicated that Mr.
Ryan was elected to the Water Board.
Councilman Magee indicated that the new process required a letter of
resignation. City Attorney Leibold clarified that the new process required that
the office be vacated and the office was vacated when the member could no
longer serve or was disqualified to serve; and in Mr. Ryan's case he would be
disqualified to serve once he had taken the oath of office for the Water Board
position.
REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
CONSENT CALENDAR
1. Minutes.
No comments.
2. Warrant List — November 15, 2004.
No comments.
PAGE SEVEN STUDY SESSION MINUTES — NOVEMBER 23, 2004
3. Investment Report — July- September, 2004.
No comments.
4. Amendment No.l Tentative Parcel Map No. 30395.
No comments.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
None.
BUSINESS ITEMS
None.
PUBLIC COMMENTS
Steve Thomson, Los Angeles, commented that he had property in Lake Elsinore.
He indicated that there were a lot of investment opportunities in Lake Elsinore and
he was not speaking of roof tops. He indicated that from the outside looking in the
function of the City seemed to be on a personal level. He indicated that there was
not a collective view from the Council; and they were not working together. He
indicated that City staff had always assisted him when he needed help. He
suggested holding back the vote on the City Manager until the results of the audit.
ADJOURNMENT
THE JOINT CITY COUNCIL/REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY STUDY
SESSION WAS ADJOURNED AT 5:00 P.M.
THOMAS BUCKLEY, MAYOR
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
PAGE EIGHT STUDY SESSION MINUTES — NOVEMBER 23, 2004
Respectfully
�--DARYL HICKMAN, CHAIRMAN
REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
i
RAY, DUTY CITY CLERK
AT EST:
VICKI KASAD, CMC, CITY CLERK/
HUMAN RESOURCES DIRECTOR
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
MINUTES
REGULAR REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MEETING
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
183 NORTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA
TUESDAY, DECEMBER 14, 2004
CALL TO ORDER
The Regular Redevelopment Agency Meeting was called to order by Chairman
Hickman at 8:10 p.m.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT:
ABSENT:
BOARDMEMBERS:
I1\71 u u t wtu
BUCKLEY, KELLEY,
MAGEE, SCHIFFNER,
HICKMAN
NONE
Also present were: Executive Director Watenpaugh, Assistant Executive
Director Best, Legal Counsel Leibold, Administrative Services Director
Pressey, Community Development Director Brady, Community Services
Director Sapp, Fire Chief Gallegos, Lake /Aquatic Resources Director Kilroy,
Police Chief Fetherolf, Engineering Manager Seumalo, Finance Manager
Magee, Information /Communications Manager Dennis, Parks & Open Space
Manager Fazzio, Planning Manager Villa, Recreation & Tourism Manager
Fazzio, City Treasurer Weber and Clerk of the Board/Human Resources
Director Kasad.
CLOSED SESSION
None.
CLOSED SESSION REPORT
None.
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PUBLIC COMMENTS — NON - AGENDIZED ITEMS —1 MINUTE
No Comments.
PUBLIC COMMENTS — AGENDIZED ITEMS — 3 MINUTES
No Comments.
CONSENT CALENDAR
MOVED BY BUCKLEY, SECONDED BY KELLEY AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR AS
PRESENTED.
The following Minutes were approved:
a. Joint Study Session — November 9, 2004. (F:134.3)
b. Regular Redevelopment Agency Meeting — November 9, 2004.
C. Regular Redevelopment Agency Meeting — November 23, 2004.
PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS
None.
BUSINESS ITEMS
2. Concurred with Council Action to hold the Meeting of December 28, 2004.
(F:134.1)
3. Request for Direction on Stadium. (F:134.10)
Boardmember Buckley suggested the issuance of three separate RFP's for 1)
sale, 2) lease or 3) operation of the facility. He suggested that they would
all be based on the final arrangement with Impact. He noted that it would be
a complex document to create, but it would put everyone on a level playing
field.
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Chairman Hickman expressed concern that the audit would be coming back
on the bonds. City Treasurer Weber inquired if Boardmember Buckley was
suggesting the same deal that was reached with Impact. Boardmember
Buckley clarified that the Impact deal should be used as a baseline. City
Treasurer Weber suggested that the Impact deal would have to be massaged
quite a bit due to the $30 million in debt. Boardmember Buckley suggested
that the best arrangement might be from someone who wants to operate it
and not buy it. City Treasurer Weber indicated that as far as bond debts and
payments, he had only seen something from low income housing that was
paying the debt. He suggested that the money should be going to low
income housing. Chairman, Hickman indicated that it was two parallel
lines, with the audit and the RFP's. City Treasurer Weber indicated that his
audit does not deal with the stadium; but the bottom line is to look at the
numbers and start with $20 million instead of $7 million. Boardmember
Buckley commented that he was discussing profit and loss; and noted that it
was built for too much money and that money would not be recouped.
Boardmember Schiffner seconded the creation of a series of RFP's as
suggested by Boardmember Buckley. Legal Counsel Leibold suggested a
single RFP, which could permit interested parties to submit proposals on one
or more of the alternatives. Chairman Hickman suggested the inclusion of a
footnote in reference to the Lehr Agreement and property.
MOVED BY BUCKLEY, SECONDED BY SCHIFFNER AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO PROCEED WITH A SERIES OF RFP'S FOR
SALE, LEASE OF OPERATION OF THE DIAMOND STADIUM.
4. Redevelopment Agency Board Reorganization. (F:134.1)
MOVED BY MAGEE, SECONDED BY BUCKLEY AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO SELECT BOARDMEMBER HICKMAN AS
CHAIRMAN OF THE REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY.
MOVED BY SCHIFFNER, SECONDED BY BUCKLEY AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO SELECT BOARDMEMBER KEL tEYAS -VIcCE
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CHAIR OF THE REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY.
PUBLIC COMMENTS — NON - AGENDIZED ITEMS — 3 MINUTES
No Comments.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR COMMENTS
No Comments.
LEGAL COUNSEL COMMENTS
No Comments.
BOARDMEMBER COMMENTS
No Comments.
ADJOURNMENT
THE REGULAR REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MEETING WAS
ADJOURNED AT 8:17 P.M.
DARYL HICKMAN, CHAIRMAN
REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
AT EST:
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VICKIXASA , CMC, CLERK OF THE BOARD/
HUNIAN RESGURCES DIRECTOR