HomeMy WebLinkAbout01-11-2000 RDAMINUTES
REGULAR REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MEETING
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
183 NORTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA
TiJESDAY, JANUARY 11, 2000
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CALL TO ORDER
The Regular Redevelopment Agency Meeting was called to order by Chairman
Schiffner at 8:25 p.m.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: BOARDMEMBERS: BRINLEY, KELLEY, PAPE,
SCHIFFNER
ABSENT: BOARDMEMBERS: METZE
Also present were: Executive Director Watenpaugh, Legal Counsel Leibold,
Assistant Executive Director Best, Administrative Services Director Boone,
Community Development Director Brady, Community Services Director Sapp,
Police Chief Walsh, City Treasurer Ferro and Clerk of the Board Kasad.
PUBLIC COMMENTS - AGENDIZED ITEMS
None requested.
CONSENT CALENDAR
MOVED BY KELLEY, SECONDED BY PAPE AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO APPROVE THE
CONSENT CALENDAR AS PRESENTED.
The following Minutes were approved:
(F:1343)
a. Regular Redevelopment Agency Meeting - December 14, 1999.
b. Regular Redevelopment Agency Meeting - December 28, 1999.
2. Ratified the following Warrant Lists:
(F:12.3)
a. December 15, 1999.
b. December 30, 1999.
3. Received and ordered filed the Investment Report for November, 1999.
(F:12.5)
4. Concurred with City Council Action to Approve Design Review
Miscellaneous No. 99-6 "Lamb's Fellowship Church" at 21990 Railroad
Canyon Road. (F:60.1)
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PUBLIC HEARING
5. Redevelopment and Housin I~mplementation Plan 2000-2004 - Resolution
No. RDA 2000 - 1. (F:134.1)
Legal Counsel Leibold detailed the Community Redevelopment Agency
Law Reform Act, which became effective in January, 1994; and detailed the
requirements of the Act for adoption of a five year implementation plan.
She detailed the Agency's past actions in compliance with the act; and
explained that this item as presented was a proposed plan for 2000-2004,
which would need to be reviewed mid-term. She further explained that the
plan outlines the history of the Redevelopment Agency, the adoption of the
project areas and the Agency's goals and objectives. She noted that with
regard to the use of RDA funds, the Agency has a significant amount of
debt service and financial obligations. She further noted that many of the
provisions would be best coordinated with the City update of the housing
element; but noted that the housing provisions and a detailed inventory of
residential development in the project areas is included in the report. She
clarified that the plan is intended as a general planning document, not a
mandate of directed actions. She stressed that it is not overly specific with
regard to activities, and is intended to be a general guide to see if the
Agency is on track with the three project areas.
Chairman Schiffner opened the public hearing at 8:32 p.m. asking those
persons interested in this item to speak. Hearing no one, the public hearing
was closed at 8:33 p.m.
Boardmember Kelley commended Legal Counsel Leibold on her
explanation of this process and the thorougluiess of the report. Legal
Counsel Leibold indicated that she would be cleaning up the document and
binding for provision to the Council and the publia
MOVED BY BRINLEY, SECONDED BY KELLEY AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO APPROVE RESOLUTION
NO. 2000-1 WHICH APPROVES AND ADOPTS THE REDEVELOPMENT
AND HOUSING IMPLEMENTATION PLAN 2000-2004 AND DIRECTED
STAFF TO COORDINATE ITS CONTINUED EVALUATION OF
RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT, EXISTING HOUSING STOCK AND
HOUSING NEEDS IN THE PROJECT AREAS TOGETHER WITH THE
PROPOSED UPDATE OF THE CITY'S HOUSING ELEMENT TO THE
GENERAL PLAN.
RESOLUTION NO. RDA 2000-1
A RESOLUTION OF' 'THE REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY OF THE
CITY O~ I,AI~ ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA, ADOPTING THE
REDEVELOPMENT AND HOUSING IMPLEMENTATION PLAN
2000-2004 IN ACCORDANCE WITH CALIFORNIA HEALTH &
SAFETY CODE SECTION 33490.
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PUBLIC COMMENTS - NON-AGENDIZED ITEMS
No comments.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR COMMENTS
No comments.
LEGAL COUNSEL COMMENTS
No comments.
BOARDMEMBER COMMENTS
No comments.
CLOSED SESSION
None.
ADJOURNMENT
MOVED BY PAPE, SECONDED BY BRINLEY AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO ADJOURN THE
REGULAR REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MEETING AT 8:35 P.M.
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ROBERT L. SCHIF R, CHAIRMAN
REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
ATTEST:
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CHI KASAD, CLERK OF THE BOARD
REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
MINUTES
REGULAR REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MEETING
CTTY OF LAKE ELSINORE
183 NORTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA
TiTESDAY, JANUARY 25, 2000
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CALL TO ORDER
The Regular Redevelopment Agency Meeting was called to order by Chairman
Schiffner at 8:10 p.m.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: BOARDMEMBERS: BRINLEY, KELLEY, PAPE,
SCHIFFNER
ABSENT: BOARDMEMBERS: METZE
Also present were: Executive Director Watenpaugh, Legal Counsel Leibold,
Assistant Executive Director Best, Administrative Services Director Boone,
Community Development Director Brady, Community Services Director Sapp,
Fire Chief Seabert, Police Chief Walsh, City Treasurer Ferro and Clerk of the
Board Kasad.
PUBLIC COMMENTS - AGENDIZED ITEMS
None requested.
CONSENT CALENDAR
MOVED BY BRINLEY, SECONDED BY KELLEY AND CARRIED BY
~JNANIMOUS VOTE OF THO5E PRESENT TO APPROVE THE
CONSENT CALENDAR AS PRESENTED.
The following Minutes were approved:
a. Regular Redevelopment Agency Meeting - January 1 l, 2000.
(F:134.3)
2. Ratified Warrant List for January 14, 2000. (F:123)
3. Adopted Resolution No. RDA 2000-2 - Accepting the Assistance of the
City of Lake Elsinore in Financing Public Infrastructure Necessary to
Alleviate Conditions of Blight in the Rancho Laguna Project Area No. 3,
and making certain findings in connection therewith (F:134.1)(X:60.1).
RESOLUTION NO. RDA 2000-2
A RESOLUTION OF THE REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY OF THE
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE ACCEPTING THE ASSISTANCE OF
THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE IN FINANCING PUBLIC
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INFRASTRUCTURE NECESSARY TO ALLEVIA~E CONDITIONS
OF BLIGHT IN THE RANCHO LAGUNA PROJECT AREA NO. 3,
AND MAKING CERTAIN FINDINGS IN CONNECTION
THEREWITH.
PUBLIC COMMENTS - NON-AGENDIZED ITEMS
None.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR COMMENTS
None.
LEGAL COUNSEL COMMENTS
None.
BOARDMEMBER COMMENTS
None.
CLOSED SESSION
None.
ADJOURNMENT
MOVED BY BRINLEY, SECONDED BY PAPE AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO ADJOURN THE
REGULAR REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MEETING AT 8:11 P.M.
G?~~~~~a~
ROBERT SCHIFF R, CHAIRMAN
REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
ATTEST:
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VICHI KASAD LERK OF THE B
, OARD
REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
MINUTES
REGULAR REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MEETING
CITY OF LAKE EL5INORE
183 NORTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA
TiTESDA'Y, FEBRUARY 8, 2000
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CALL TO ORDER
The Regular Redevelopment Agency Meeting was called to order by Chairman
Schiffner at 7:25 p.m.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: BOARDMEMBERS: KELLEY, PAPE, BRINLEY,
SCHIFFNER
ABSENT: BOARDMEMBERS: METZE
Also present were: Executive Director Watenpaugh, Legal Counsel Leibold,
Assistant Executive Director Best, Administrative Services Director Boone,
Community Development Director Brady, Community Services Director
Sapp, Police Chief Walsh, Fire Chief Seabert, City Treasurer Ferro and
Deputy Clerk of the Board Bryning.
PUBLIC COMMENTS
None.
CONSENT CALENDAR
MOVED BY BRINLEY, SECONDED BY KELLEY AND CARRIED BY
UNA1vIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO APPROVE THE
CONSENT CALENDAR AS PRESENTED.
Approved the Regular Redevelopment Agency Minutes of January 25,
2000. (F:134.3)
2. Ratified the Warrant List for January 31, 2000. (F:123)
Received and ordered filed the Investment Report for December, 1999.
(F:12.5)
PUBLIC COMMENTS NON-AGENDIZED ITEMS
None.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR COMMENTS
None.
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CLOSED SESSION
None.
BOARD MEMBER COMMENTS
None
ADJOURNMENT
MOVED BY BRINLEY, SECONDED BY PAPE AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO ADJOURN THE
REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MEETING AT 8:02 P.M.
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ROBERT SCHIFF ER, CHAIRMAN
LAKE ELSINORE REDEVELOPMENT
AGENCY.
Respectfully submitted,
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Adria l,. Bryning, De ty Cler of the Board
OF THE BOARD
LAKE ELSINORE REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
MINUTES
REGULAR REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MEETING
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
183 NORTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA
TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 22, 2000
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CALL TO ORDER
The Redevelopment Agency Meeting was called to order by Chairman Schiffner
at 8:56 p.m.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: BOARDMEMBERS:
BRINLEY, KELLEY, METZE,
PAPE, SCHIFFNER
ABSENT: BOARDMEMBERS:
NONE
Also present were: Executive Director Watenpaugh, Legal Counsel Leibold,
Assistant Executive Director Best, Administrative 5ervices Director Boone,
Community Development Director Brady, Fire Chief Seaber4, Police Chief
Walsh, City Engineer O'Donnell, Public Works Manager Payne, City
Treasurer Ferro and Clerk of the Board Kasad.
PUBLIC COMMENTS - AGENDIZED ITEMS
None requested.
CONSENT CALENDAR
MOVED BY BRINLEY, SECONDED BY KELLEY AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR AS
PRESENTED.
The following Minutes were approved:
a. Regular Redevelopment Agency Meeting - February 8, 2000.
(F:1343)
2. Ratified Warrant List for February 15, 2000. (F:12.3)
PUBLIC COMMENTS - NON-AGENDIZED ITEMS
Chris Hyland, 15191 Wavecrest Drive, noted recent newspaper articles regardin
the claim for damages submitted by TMC/Liberty. She suggested that this claim
would mean considerable costs for the City and requested an overview of the
claim status and potential for settlement.
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EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR COMMENTS
No Comments.
LEGAL COUNSEL COMMENTS
Legal Counsel Leibold advised that the claim as filed addressed a number of
performance documents as detailed in existing agreements. She indicated that ta
date there had been no City or Redevelopment Agency action on the claim, but the
issues enumerated have been under discussion with respect to implementation of
the agreements. She further indicated that it was hoped that the issues would be
resolved through further discussion, but noted that it was not appropriate to
address the individual issues at this time.
BOARDMEMBER COMMENTS
No Comments.
CLOSED SESSION
None.
ADJOURNMENT
IVIOVED BY BRINLEY, SECONDED BY PAPE AND CARRIED BY
iJNANIMOUS VOTE TO ADJOURN THE REGULAR REDEVELOPMENT
AGENCY MEETING AT 9:02 P.M.
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, RMAN
REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
ATTES'Y':
~~ASAD, CL RK OF THE BOARD
ItEDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
MINUTES
REGULAR REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MEETING
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
183 NORTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA
TUESDAY, MARCH 14, 2000
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CALL TO ORDER
The Regular Redevelopment Agency Meeting was called to order Chairman
Schiffner at 8:05 p.m.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT:
BOARDM~MBERS:
KELLEY, METZE,
PAPE, SCHIFFNER
ABSENT:
BOARDMEMBERS:
BRINLEY
Also present were: Executive Director Watenpaugh, Assistant Executive
Director Best, Legal Counsel Leibold, Administrative Services Director
Boone, Community Development Director Brady, Community Services
Director Sapp, Fire Chief Seabert, Police Chief Walsh, City Treasurer Ferro
and Clerk of the Board Kasad.
PUBLIC COMMENTS - AGENDIZED ITEMS
None Requested.
CONSENT CALENDAR
MOVED BY KELLEY, SECONDED BY PAPE AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO APPROVE THE
CONSENT CALENDAR AS PRESENTED.
The following Minutes were approved:
a. Regular Redevelopment Agency Meeting - February 22, 2000.
(F:134.2)
b.
2. Received and ordered filed the Investment Report for January, 2000.
(F:12.5)
3. Ratified Warrant List for February 29, 2000. (F:12.3)
PUBLIC' COMMENTS - NON-AGENDIZED ITEMS
Chris Hyland, 15191 Wavecrest, questioned the status of the TMC claim for
damages; but noted that the answer might have to wait until Legal Counsel
Leibold was present. Boardmember Metze commented on the inability to discuss
matters of pending litigation.
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EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR COMMENTS
No Comments.
LEGAL COUNSEL COMMENTS
No Comments.
BOARDMEMBER COMMENTS
No Comments.
CLOSED SESSION
None.
ADJOURNMENT
1VIOVEID BY METZE, SECONDED BY PAPE AND CARRIED BY
iJNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRE5ENT TO ADJOURN THE
REGULAR REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MEETING AT 8:07 P.M.
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ROBERT SCHIFFNE , CHAIltMAN
REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
AT'I'EST:
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VICKI KASAD, CLERK OF THE BOARD
REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
MINUTES
REGULAR REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MEETING
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
183 NORTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CALII'ORNIA
TUESDAY, MARCH 28, 2000
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CALL TO ORDER
The Regular Redevelopment Agency Meeting was called to order by Chairman
Schiffner at 7:52 p.m.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: BOARDMEMBERS:
BRINLEY, KELLEY, METZE,
PAPE, 5CHII~'FNER
ABSENT: BOARDMEMBERS:
NONE
Also present were: Executive Director Watenpaugh, Assistant Executive
Director Best, Legal Counsel Leibold, Administrative Services Director Boone,
Community Development Director Brady, Fire Chief Seabert, Police Chief
Walsh, City Treasurer Ferro, Engineering Manager O'Donnell, Lake
Operations Manager Kilroy and Clerk of the Board Kasad.
PUBLIC COMMENTS - AGENDIZED ITEMS
No Comments.
CONSENT CALEI~TDAR
MOVED BY BRINLEY, 5ECONDED BY KELLEY AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR AS
PRESENTED.
1. Approved the following Minutes:
a. Regular Redevelopment Agency Meeting - March 14, 2000. (F:134.3)
2. Ratified Warrant List for March 15, 2000. (F:12.3)
PUBLIC COMIVIENTS - NON-AGENDIZED ITEMS
No Comments.
EXECUTIVE DII2ECTOR COMMENTS
No Comments.
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LEGAL COUNSEL COMMENTS
No Comments.
BOARDMEMBER COMMENTS
No Comments.
CLOSED SESSION
None.
ADJOURNMENT
MOVED BY BRINLEY, SECONDED BY KELLEY AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO ADJOLIRN THE REGULAR REDEVELOPMENT
AGENCY MEETING AT 7:54 P.M.
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ROBERT L. SCHIFFNER, CHAIRMAN
REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
ATTEST:
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VICKI KASAD, CLERK OF THE BOARD
REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
MINUTES
REGULAR REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MEETING
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
183 NORTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA
TUESDAY, APRIL 11, 2000
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CALL TO ORDER
The Regular Redevelopment Agency Meeting was called to order by Chairman
Schiffner at 735 p.m.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: BOARDMEMBERS: BRINLEY, KELLEY, METZE,
PAPE, SCHIFFNER
ABSENT: BOARDMEMBERS: NONE
Also present were: Executive Director Watenpaugh, Assistant Executive Director
Best, Legal Counsel Leibold, Administrative Services Director Boone,
Community Development Director Brady, Community Services Director Sapp,
Police Chief Walsh, City Treasurer Ferro, City Engineer O'Donnell and Clerk of
the Board Kasad.
PUBLIC COMMENTS - AGENDIZED ITEMS
None requested.
CONSENT CALENDAR
MOVED BY BRINLEY, SECONDED BY KELLEY AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR AS
PRESENTED.
The following Minutes were approved:
a. Regular Redevelopment Agency Meeting - March 28, 2000. (F:1343)
2. Ratified the Warrant List for March 30, 2000. (F:12.3)
3. Received and ordered filed the Investment Report for February, 2000.
(F:12.5)
PUBLIC COMMENTS - NON-AGENDIZED ITEMS
Chris Hyland, 15191 Wavecrest Drive, contemplated the question of who would
write the first book on conspiracies behind the scenes at City Hall. She noted a
newspaper article and comments by Mr. Boone and the City Council, suggesting
that the City should read the Public Records Act. She suggested that false
infarmation had been provided with regard to the City°s financial solvency. She
expressed concern with the potholes in local streets and commented that she does
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not have to talk to voice mail in other City Clerk's offices. She questioned the
possibility of eliminating the City Manager position and read a list of employee
salaries and benefits. She suggested that Mr. Watenpaugh should lay off the top
five positions; and indicated that she would still be able to say "I told you so".
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR COMMENTS
Executive Director Watenpaugh addressed the article written by Mr. Buckley and
mentioned by Mrs. Hyland. He noted that a complete letter of explanation had
been sent to Ms. Sandy Stokes explaining the issues, but that letter was not
mentioned. He indicated that his last budget projections may haee been low, but
stressed that the financial strategy is working to increase reserves. He noted that
there are still some financial problems, but they are being worked out; and the
City is getting into a better position to provide services and working to do so. He
clarified comments regarding threats of cutting services and staffing with people
who can administer contracts. He stressed that staff was working to improve the
situation and suggested that the City needs the input and assistance of the public to
address the needs. He suggested that anyone with questions contact City Hall for
clarification.
LEGAI, COUNSEL COMMENTS
Legal Counsel Leibold indicated that the Redevelopment Agency and City
received a clean and clear audit report. She noted that there is an audit document
several inches thick which finds the accounts in order and the accounting methods
sound. She explained that the letter being discussed is referred to as a
Management Advisory Letter, in which the auditors confirm that the City and
Agency audit report is clean and clear, but identifies several matters of less than
significant concern as a courtesy to the City. She stressed that it was not a
situation of doom and gloom; and the City's financial situation has improved
through sound financial management.
BOARDMEMBER COMMENTS
Boardmember Metze suggested that Mrs. Hyland should name one city without
road problems. He challenged her to find a city that does not have potholes in the
State. He stressed that she should show him a city that has better conditions.
~oardmember Brinley stressed that anyone with questions should call or write to
City Hall for clarification; and noted that the information was a matter of public
record.
Chairman Schiffner commented that one of the worse pieces of road he had
encountered was a piece of Highway 91, on the first mile west of the 15 freeway;
and stressed that portion was a State highway.
CLOSED SESSION
City Attorney Leibold announced the Closed Session discussion item as listed
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below:
A. CONFERENCE WITH LEGAL COUNSEL - ANTICIPATED
LITIGATION - Significant exposure to litigation pursuant to subdivision
(b) of Section 54956.9 (1 case).
THE REGULAR REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MEETING WAS
RECESSED AT 7:45 P.M.
THE REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MEETING WAS RECONVENED AT
8:05 P.M.
THE REGULAR REDEVELOPMENT MEETING WAS ADJOURNED TO
CLOSED SESSION AT 8:06 P.M.
THE REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MEETING RECONVENED AT 9:05
P.M. WITH NO REPORTABLE ACTION.
ADJOURNMENT
MOVED BY BRINLEY, SECONDED BY KELLEY AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO ADJOURN THE REGULAR REDEVLEOPMENT
AGENCY MEETING AT 9:06 P.M.
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ROBERT L. SCHIFFNER, CHAIRMAN
REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
ATTEST:
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CKl KASAD, CMC, CLERK OF THE BOARD
REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
MINUTES
REGULAR REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MEETING
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
183 NORTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA
TUESDAY, APRIL 25, 2000
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CALL TO ORDER
The Regular Redevelopment Agency Meeting was called to order by
Chairman Schiffner at 8:36 p.m.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT:
BOARDMEMBERS
BRINLEY, KELLEY,
METZE, PAPE,
SCHIFFNER
ABSENT:
BOARDMEMBERS: NONE
Also present were: Executive Director Watenpaugh, Assistant Executive
Director Best, Legal Counsel Leibold, Administrative Services Director
Boone, Community Development Director Brady, Community Services
Director Sapp, Police Lieutenant Mendoza, City Engineer O'Donnell and
Deputy Clerk of the Board Bryning.
PUBLIC COMMENTS - AGENDIZED ITEMS
None requested.
PUBLIC COMMENTS - AGENDIZED ITEMS
None requested.
CONSENT CALENDAR
MOVED BY METZE, SECONDED BY KELLEY AND CARRED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR
AS PRESENTED.
The following Minutes were approved:
a. Regular Redevelopment Agency Meeting - April 11, 2000
(F:1343)
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PUBLIC COMMENTS - NON-AGENDIZED ITEMS
Chris Hyland 15191 Wavecrest Drive, commented on a trip that Mayor
Brinley, Mayor Pro Tem Pape and the City Manager took to Washington
D.C. She stated that the City Manager justified the trip by announcing that
the City would receive $2,000,000 because of ineetings with Congressman
Calvert. She further stated that she found it strange that they had to go to
Washington D.C. since Congressman Calvert was recently in the area to
meet with Temecula and Murrieta about their flood control and they could
have met with him then and saved the City some money. She noted the trip
that Chairman Schiffner and Mayor Brinley took to Colorado and the
amount of money that was spent. She commented that the trip was to tour
the Westion Hotel that had been built by the O'Byrnes and noted that they
had promised to build a Red Lion Inn. She alleged that Red Lion Inn had no
knowledge of any development meetings with the O'Byrnes. She stated that
in her opinion the O'Byrnes could have sent a video to the City and Council
could have seen the same thing for about $5. She noted that the City is
paying $94,000 a year to Camelot (the O'Byrnes) for a boarded up K-Mart,
an unfinished shopping area and a Movie Theater. She asked where the City
was getting all the money.
CLOSEID SESSION
Legal Counsel Leibold announced the Closed Session discussion items as
listed below:
a. CONFERENCE WITH LEGAL COUNSEL - ANTICIPATED
LITIGATION - Significant exposure to litigation pursuant to
subdivision (b) (3) (C) of Section 549569 (1 potential case: Claim
#99-24, Liberty Founders, LLC).
b. CONFERENCE WITH LEGAL COUNSEL - EXISTING
I.I'd'IGATION (Subdivision (a) of Section 54956.9) Robert G.
Williams, et al vs. City of Lake Elsinore - Court of Appeals Case
Nos. E024487 & E025201.
CTTY COUNCIL COMMENTS
Executive Director Watenpaugh stated that Ms. Hyland misunderstood the
amount. He stated that the City has $500,000 in this year's budget due to
support from Congressman Calvert's Office, which can be used as a match
toward the $15,000,000 for the Lake. He noted that the City has been
informed by Congressman Calvert's Assistant and his Area Director that
there is a current proposal of $1,000,000 in the budget for Lake Elsinore. He
noted that the Agreement with the O'Byrnes was for the Red Lion, however
the Corporation was purchased by Doubletree and the advancement of
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the hotel was not possible. He stated that Inland Pacific Inc. (the
O'Byrnes) ha~e completed a Hotel in Westminster, Colorado, and part
of the reason that the Mayor and Redevelopment Agency Chair went
to Colorado, was because of the Agreement and they had the
opportunity to meet with the Westminster Officials to see how the
project was handled. Boardmember Brinley stated that four days after
she retumed, the O'Byrnes were back in town to discuss a future
hotel. She noted that they will be back May 8th, with their group, to
discuss future plans. Chairman Schiffner stated that the hotel was not
a thing of the past.
THE REGULAR REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MEETING WAS
RECESSED AT 8:45 P.M.
THE REGULAR REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY WAS
RECONVENED AT 9:07 P.M.
TAE REGULAR REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MEETING WAS
ADJOURNED TO CLOSED SESSION AT 9:08 P.M.
THE REGULAR REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MEETING WAS
RECONVENED AT 10:34 P.M. WITH NO REPORTABLE ACTION.
AJOURNMENT
MOVED BY BRINLEY, SECONDED BY PAPE AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO ADJOURN THE REGULAR
REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY~A~ETING AT 10:35 P.M.
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ROBERT L. SCHIFFNER, CHAIRMAN
REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
Respectfully submitted,
C~UVZ~t,~ V / `
Adria L. Bryning, Deputy C rk of t Board
Redevelopment Agency
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VICHI KASAD, CLERK OF THE BOARD
REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
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MINUTES
REGULAR REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MEETING
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
183 NORTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA
TUESDAY, MAY 9, 2000
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CALL TO ORDER
The Regular Redevelopment Agency Meeting was called to order by Chairman
Schiffner at 7:58 p.m.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: BOARDMEMBERS: BRINLEY, KELLEY, METZE,
PAPE, SCHIFFNER
ABSENT: BOARDMEMBERS: NONE
Also present were: Executive Director Watenpaugh, Assistant Executive
Director Best, Legal Counsel Leibold, Administrative Services Director
Boone, Community Development Director Brady, Fire Chief Seabert,
Information/Communications Manager Dennis, Recreation & Tourism
Manager Edelbrock, Police Lt. Mendoza, City Planner Villa, City Treasurer
Ferro and Clerk of the Board Kasad.
PUBLIC COMMENTS - AGENDIZED ITEMS
None Requested.
CONSENT CALENDAR
MOVED BY KELLEY, SECONDED BY METZE AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR AS
PRESENTED.
The following Minutes were approved:
a. Regular Redevelopment Agency Meeting -
Apri125, 2000.
2. Ratified the Warrant List for Apri127, 2000.
3. Received and order filed the Investment Report for March, 2000.
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PUBLIC COMMENTS - NON-AGENDIZED ITEMS
George Alongi, 649 Mill Street, suggested that the CouncilBoard was sitting in
conflict serving as both the City Council and the Redevelopment Agency Board.
He indicated that, as discussed for several years, the City owes the Agency $18
million in set-aside money. He indicated that the money has been stolen from the
RDA over several years; noting that the funds should have been spent in the RDA
Project Areas. He noted that some streets downtown were in built in 1929 with no
improvements in the meantime. He expressed concern with utilizing the tax
increment to address "bad debts" of a previous City Council. He suggested that
Chairman Schiffner set policy and put the Agency on the right track. He further
suggested putting 10% aside to provide low cost loans for property owners who
want to upgrade their properties. He noted that many property owners on Main
Street are already upgrading at their own expense. He stressed the need for
Chairman Schiffner to take action.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR COMMENTS
No Comments.
LEGAL COUNSEL COMMENTS
Legal Counsel Leibold announced the Closed Session as listed below.
BOARDMEMBER COMMENTS
No Comments.
THE REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MEETING WAS RECESSED AT 8:02
P.M.
THE REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY RECONVENED AT 8:36 P.M.
CLOSED SESSION
a. CONFERENCE WITH LEGAL COUNSEL - ANTICIPATED
LITIGATION - Significant exposure to litigation pursuant to subdivision
(b) of Section 549569
(1 case)
THE REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MEETING WAS ADJOURNED TO A
JOINT CLOSED SESSION WITH THE CITY COUNCIL AT 8:37 P.M.
THE REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY RECONVENED AT 9:25 P.M. WITH
NO REPORTABLE ACTION.
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ADJOURNMENT
MOVED BY BRINLEY, SECONDED BY KELLEY AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO ADJOURN THE REGULAR REDEVELOPMENT
AGENCY MEETING AT 9:25 P.M.
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ROBERT L. SCHIFFNER, CHAIRMAN
REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
ATTEST:
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VI~'~~I KA AD, CLERK OF THE BOARD
REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
MINUTES
REGULAR REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MEETING
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
183 NORTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA
TUESDAY, MAY 23, 2000
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CALL TO ORDER
The Regular Redevelopment Agency Meeting was called to arder by Chairman
Schiffner at 7:58 p.m.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: BOARDMEMBERS: BRINLEY, KELLEY, METZE
PAPE, SCHIFFNER
ABSENT: BOARDMEMBERS: NONE
Also present were: Executive Director Watenpaugh, Legal Counsel Leibold,
Assistant Executive Director Best, Administrative Services Director Boone,
Community Development Director Brady, Community Services Director
Sapp, Police Chief Walsh, Fire Chief Seabert, Information/Communications
Manager Dennis, City Engineer O'Donnell, City Treasurer Ferro and Deputy
Clerk of the Board Bryning.
PUBLIC COMMENTS
None.
CONSENT CALENDAR
MOVED BY BRINLEY, SECONDED BY KELLEY AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR AS
PRESENTED.
Approved the Regular Redevelopment Agency Minutes of May 9, 2000.
(F: 1343)
2. Ratified the Warrant List for May 15, 2000.(F:123)
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PUBLIC COMMENTS NON-AGENDIZED ITEMS
Chris Hyland, 15191 Wavecrest Drive, asked who offered Mr. Robert Williams
$200,000 for a judgment he won in the amount of $2.2 million in exchange for
halting interest payments on the award during the appeal. She stated that she
could not believe that a competent lawyer would be dumb enough to propose the
idea. She stated that she hoped the taxpayers of the community realized that they
will be paying the $2.2 million plus interest. She suggested that the City just pay
the money and quit taking the case to appeals; which costs the t~payer more in
the long run. She stated that the City would not win this lawsuit.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR COMMENTS
None.
LEGAL COUNSEL COMMENTS
City Attorney Leibold responded to Mrs. Hyland's comments and stated that there
was a tentative ruling; oral arguments for the case have not taken place; and there
was no final judgment at this time. She noted that there was no definitive answer
regarding interest accrual and the case was being handled by special counsel. She
stated that she resented the characterization as stated. She noted that people
should not believe everything exactly as it is printed in the newspaper. She noted
that in pending litigation there are negotiations that take place and the City does
not have a final opinion yet. She further explained that after oral arguments the
options will be known and the Agency will ha~e to evaluate its ne~ step.
Legal Counsel Leibold announced the Closed Session as listed below.
BOARD MEMBER COMMENTS
None
THE REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MEETING WAS RECESSED AT 8:03
P.M.
THE REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY RECONVENED AT 8:20 P.M.
CLOSED SESSION
a. CONFERENCE WITH LEGAL COUNSEL - ANTICIPATED
LITIGATION - Significant exposure to litigation pursuant to subdivision
(b) of Section 54956.9 (1 case).
b. CONFERENCE WITH LEGAL COUNSEL - EXISTING LITIGATION
(Subdivision (a) of Section 54956.9) Redevelopment Agency of the City of
Lake Elsinore v. Sportsman Lodge - 4'~' Appellate District Case #E024762.
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THE REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MEETING WAS ADJOURNED TO A
JOINT CLOSED SESSION WITH THE CITY COUNCIL AT 8:20 P.M.
THE REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY RECONVENED AT 9:15 P.M. WITH
NO REPORTABLE ACTION.
ADJOURNIVIENT
MOVED BY BRINLEY, SECONDED BY KELLEY AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO ADJOURN THE REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
MEETING AT 9:16 P.M.
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ROBERT SCHIF NER, CHAIRMAN
LAKE ELSINORE REDEVELOPMENT
AGENCY.
Respectfully submitted,
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Adria L. Bryrung, Dep ty~the Board
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VICKI KASAD, C'~.ERK OF THE BOARD
LAKE ELSI1~T~tJRE REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
MINUTES
REGULAR REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MEETING
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
183 NORTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA
TUESDAY, JLTNE 13, 2000
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CALL TO ORDER
The Regular Redevelopment Agency Meeting was called to order by Chairman
Schiffner at 8:58 p.m.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: BOARDMEMBERS: BRINLEY, KELLEY, METZE,
PAPE, SCHIFFNER
ABSENT: BOARDMEMBERS: NONE
Also present were: Executive Director Watenpaugh, Assistant Executive Director
Best, Legal Counsel Leibold, Administrative Services Director Boone,
Community Development Director Brady, Community Services Director Sapp,
Fire Chief Seabert, Police Chief Walsh, City Engineer O'Donnell, Information/
Communications Manager Dennis, Public Works Manager Payne and City
Treasurer Ferro and Clerk of the Board Kasad.
PUBLIC COMMENTS - AGENDIZED ITEMS
None requested.
CONSENT CALENDAR
MOVED BY PAPE, SECONDED BY KELLEY AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR AS
PRESENTED.
The following Minutes were approved:
a. Regular Redevelopment Agency Meeting - May 25, 2000. (F:134.3)
2. Received and ordered filed the Investment Report for April, 2000. (F:12.5)
3. Approved Change of Date for regularly scheduled July 25~' Redevelopment
Agency/City Council Meeting to July 24, 2000, at 7 p.m. (F:134.1)
4. Approved Joint Project Funding Agreement by and among the County of
Riverside, the City of Lalce Elsinore and the Redevelopment Agency of the
City of Lake Elsinore regarding the Improvement of Mission Trail; and
aclopted Resolution No. RDA 2000-4. (F:68.1)(X:156.2)
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RESOLUTION NO. RDA 2000-4
A RESOLUTION OF THE REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY OF THE
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA, APPROVING AND
AUTHORIZING THE AGENCY'S EXECUTION OF A JOINT
PROJECT FUNDING AGREEMENT BY AND AMONG THE
AGENCY, THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE, AND THE COUNTY
OF RIVERSIDE AND MAKING CERTAIN FINDINGS IN
CONNECTION THEREWITH.
BUSINESS ITEMS
5. Recreation Authoritv - Bond Refinancin~ - Resolution No. RDA 2000-3.
(F:126.5)
Executive Director Watenpaugh noted that this was further consideration of
the item discussed during the City Council portion of this meeting; and
offered to clarify any questions.
MOVED BY PAPE, SECONDED BY KELLEY AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO ADOPT REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
RESOLUTION NO. RDA 2000-3, APPROVING THE ISSUANCE OF
BONDS AND RELATED DOCUMENTATION.
RESOLUTION NO. RDA 2000-3
A RESOLUTION OF THE REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY OF THE
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE APPROVING A SITE AND FACILITY
LEASE, AMENDED AND RESTATED REIMBURSEMENT
AGREEMETNS AND AN AGREEMENT REGARDING ADVANCES,
AND AUTHORIZING THE TAKING OF CERTAIN OTHER
ACTIONS IN CONNECTION THEREWITH.
THE REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MEETING WAS RECESSED AT 9:00
P.M.
THE REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MEETING RECONVENED AT 9:03
P.M.
6. 2000/O1 Fiscal Year Budget - Resolution No. RDA 2000-05. (F:30.1)
Executive Director Watenpaugh noted that the budget as presented was very
basic. He highlighted the revenues and expenditures, and noted that the
budget was a push with it remaining in the black. He detailed the required
debt payments and obligations of the Agency; and noted that the
Redevelopment Agency was in place to incur debt.
Boardmember Pape indicated that it was nice that the budget was balanced;
and noted the Redevelopment Agency transfers which have been required
the past few years.
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MOVED BY PAPE, SECONDED BY BRINLEY AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO ADOPT RESOLUTION NO. 2000-5, ADOPTING
THE BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR 2000-O1.
RESOLUTION NO. RDA 2000-5
A RESOLUTION OF THE REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY OF THE
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA, APPROVING AND
ADOPTING THE BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR 2000-O1 AND
APPROPRIATING THE FUNDS NECESSARY TO MEET THE
EXPENDITURES SET FORTH THEREIN.
PUBLIC COMMENTS - NON-AGENDIZED ITEMS
No Comments.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR COMMENTS
No Comments.
LEGAL COUNSEL COMMENTS
City Attorney Leibold announced the Closed Session items as listed below.
BOARDMEMBER COMMENTS
No Comments.
THE REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MEETING WAS RECESSED AT 9:09
P.M.
THE REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MEETING RECONVENED AT 10:16
P.M.
CLOSED SESSION
A. CONFERENCE WITH LEGAL COUNSEL--EXISTING LITIGATION
(Subdivision (a) of section 54956.9) Williams v. City of Lake Elsinore (4`~`
Appellate Case # E024487); Williams and Hassan v. City of Lake Elsinore
(4t'' Appellate District Case # E025201)
B. CONFERENCE WITH LEGAL COUNSEL--EXISTING LITIGATION
(Subdivision (a) of Section 54956.9) Redevelopment Agency of the City of
Lake Elsinore v. Sportsman Lodge (4~' Appellate District Case # E024762).
THE REGULAR REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MEETING WAS
ADJOURNED TO CLOSED SESSION AT 10:17 P.M. FOR DISCUSSION
OF THE ABOVE LISTED ITEMS.
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THE REGULAR REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MEETING
RECONVENED AT 10:27 P.M.
Legal Counsel Leibold suggested that due to the volume of Closed Session items,
that they be continued to a Special Meeting to be scheduled for Thursday, June 15,
2000 at 3:30 p.m. or as soon thereafter as possible.
ADJOURNMENT
MOVED BY BRINLEY, SECONDED BY PAPE AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO ADJOURN THE REGULAR REDEVELOPMENT
AGENCY MEETING AT 10:30 P.M.
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ROBERT L. SCHIFFNE , CHAIRMAN
REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
ATTEST:
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VICKI KASAD, C C, CLERK OF THE BOARD
REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
MINUTES
REGULAR REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
130 SOUTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA
TUESDAY, JUNE 27, 2000
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CALL TO ORDER
Chairman Schiffner called the Regular Redevelopment Agency Meeting to
order at 8:20 p.m.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: BOARDMEMBERS: BRINLEY, KELLEY,
PAPE, SCHIFFNER
ABSENT: BOARDMEMBERS: METZE
Also present were: Executive Director Watenpaugh, Assistant
Executive Director Best, Legal Counsel Leibold, Administrative
Services Director Boone, Community Services Director Sapp, Police
Chief Walsh, City Engineer O'Donnell, Information/Communications
Manager Dennis, Planning Manager Villa, City Treasurer Ferro, and
Assistant Clerk of the Board Bryning.
CONSENT CALENDAR
MOVED BY KELLEY, SECONDED BY BRINLEY AND CARRIED
BY UNA1vIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO APPROVE THE
CONSENT CALENDAR AS PRESENTED.
1. The following Minutes were approved:
a. Regular Redevelopment Agency Meeting- June 13, 2000
b. Adjourned Regular Redevelopment Agency Meeting - June 15,
2000. (F:134.3)
2. Ratified the Warrant List for June 15, 2000. (F:123)
PUBLIC COMMENTS - NON AGENDIZED YTEMS
George Alongi, 649 Mill Street, stated his concern regarding the large debt
that the Redevelopment Agency has and the amount of time the Agency
takes for its Meetings. He stated that he would like to have a report on the
debt services, revenues, and how the Agency plans to pay for debt services
for each of the Agency areas. He stated that he felt that the property owners
were entitled to know that information since it was their property that was
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used as collateral for the bonds. He further stated that he did not feel that
going through the motions of a Meeting was meeting the needs of the
property owners. He stated that as a property owner he had the right to have
that information presented, and the Chairman had the obligation to report
that information. He requested that a report be made.
Chris Hyland, 15191 Wavecrest Drive, noted that she had articles from the
newspapers that quoted Mr. Paydar regarding tent camping and the lack of
compatibility between RVs and tent campers. She stated that she can say
anything that she chooses at the podium. She objected to Mayor Brinley°s
comments and felt that they were degrading. She fitrther objected to Mayor
Pro Tem's comments and felt that they were degrading as well and stated
that was not his job. She criticized City Attorney Leibold's facial
expressions and stated that it was not proper. She stated that she pays her
ta~ces and has her first amendment rights as do the other people that speak at
the podium and suggested that the Board and Council take that under
serious consideration.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR COMMENTS
Executive Director Watenpaugh stated that the City welcomes commen`ts
from the "Watch Dog" group and allows them that right. He further stated
that constructive criticism is always welcome, however it is unfortunate that
it gets to a personal basis. He stated that at the Budget Review the budget
debt and revenue were presented to the public and the information is
available to anyone interested.
C'I,OSEID SESSION
Legal Counsel presented the item for closed session as follows:
A. CONFERENCE WITH LEGAL COUNSEL - EXISTING
LITIGATION (Subdivision (a) of Section 54956.9) Williams v. City of
Lake Elsinore (4t'' Appellate Case #E024487); Williams and Hassan v. City
of Lalce Elsinore (4t'' Appellate District Case #E025201).
THE REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY RECESSED AT 8:30 P.M.
THE REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY RECONVENED AT 10:24 P.M.
REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY BOARD DIRECTED SPECIAL
LEGAL COUNSEL TO FILE A PETITION FOR REHEARING
WI'd'H THE 4TH DISTRICT APPELLATE COURT (Chairman
Schiffner, Vice Chairman Kelley, Boardmembers Brinley and Pape
voting in favor; no dissenting votes; Boardmember Metze absent)
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ADJOiTRNMENT
MOVED BY BRINLEY SECONDED BY PAPE AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO ADJOURN THE
REGULAR REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MEETING AT 10:25 P.M.
P.M.
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REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
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1~S~ISTANT CLERK OF THE BOARD
MINUTES
REGULAR REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
183 NORTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA
TUESDAY, JULY 11, 2000
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CALL TO ORDER
Chairman Schiffner called the Regular Redevelopment Agency Meeting to
order at 7:55 p.m.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT
BOARDMEMBERS:
BRINLEY, KELLEY,
PAPE, METZE,
SCHIFFNER
ABSENT:
BOARDMEMBERS:
NONE
Also Present were: Executive Director Watenpaugh, Assistant Executive
Directar Best, Legal Counsel Leibold, Administrative Services Director
Boone, Community Services Director Sapp, Police Chief Walsh, Fire Chief
Seabert, City Engineer O'Donnell, Information/Communications Manager
Dennis, Planning Manager Villa, Engineering Manager O'Donnell, City
Treasurer Ferro and Assistant Clerk of the Board Bryning.
CONSENT CALENDAR
MOVED BY METZE, SECONDED BY BRINLEY AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR
AS PRESENTED.
The following Minutes were approved:
a. Regular Redevelopment Agency Meeting - June 27, 2000. (F:
1343)
b. Redevelopment Agency Study Session - June 27, 2000
2. Ratified the Warrant List for June 30, 2000. (F: 12.3)
Received and filed Investment Report for May, 2000 (F: 12.5)
4. Concurred with Council Action to approve Design Review for
Industrial Project No. I 00-02, Located on Chaney Street (APN # 377-
160-002). (F: 86.2)
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PUBLIC COMMENTS - NON-AGENDIZED ITEMS
George Alongi, 649 Mill Street, stated that he spoke to the Agency before
about the Chairman making a report to the public regarding the Agency. He
noted the liability to the Chairman of not making a report. He stated that he
would not address the issue of whether the bank has a right to come to the
RedevelopmenY Agency for the money or not, however when a
Redevelopment Agency is created it creates an encumbrance on the
properties in the Agency Area. He noted that if default takes place then all
the properties in those areas are assessed for those damages. He asked the
Chairman to report to the property owners at each Redevelopment Agency
Meeting the status of the suit with the California Bank. He stated that he
had the right to know, as it involves his tax dollars that are being used for
other payments of debt; and he was loosing services through this action. He
noted that his title insurance policy cautions him as the property owner, of a
possible liability in the Redevelopment Area that could be an encumbrance
upon his property. He again stated that it was a very important issue and the
property owner had the right to know. He stated that he was not afraid to
spend some money and if he had to get a court order to make the Chairman
disclose the information, then he would. He stated that he would take
Chairman Schiffner to court and sue him personally.
Chris Hyland, 15191 Wavecrest Drive, noted the trip that Mayor Brinley
and Chairman Schiffner took to Colorado at the last Meeting. She noted
that two days after that Meeting, an article in the newspaper reported that
the Agency had a lawsuit filed against them regarding the theater by
California Bank and Trust in the amount of $2.9 million dollars plus interest
and attorney fees. She stated that it was her opinion that the Agency knew
at the time that all was not kosher with Camelot Properties making their
payment due. She stated that it was her understanding that the lawyers of
California Bank had contacted the City when Camelot Properties became
delinquent, and yet the Mayor and RDA Chairman took the residents' tax
moriey to go on a trip to wine and dine and look at the Westin Hotel, which
Camelot people are involved in. She read an article from the newspaper
regarding a loan guarantee. She stated that she would like to share her
documents and tapes with the California Bank's attorneys, however they
will have to give her some time since the evidence is in a vault with another
lawyer. She stated that she has documents from 1991 and tapes from 1992,
and she knows what she is talking about. She stated that it is also her
opinion from watching ihe Meetings that Mayor Brinley is a dictator and
tells staff what to s~y, when to say it and how to say it. She stated that
when someone does not agree with the Mayor she runs them out on a rail,
and she warned Mayor Brinley that her turn was next.
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EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR COMMENTS
1. Executive Director Watenpaugh stated that Camelot Properties
represents the old K-Mart and Theater site. He clarified that the
'' Hotel site is represented by Inland Pacific; and noted that although
they are the same people, they are different business corporations.
2. He stated that the Agency Board and Council do not tell him what to
say and he does not always agree with them, however he will do what
a majority of them ask him to do, as long as it is not illegal or
unethical.
LEGAL COUNSEL COMMENTS
Legal Counsel Leibold responded to the quote taken from the
newspaper. She stated that the City and the Agency maintain
accurate public records and there is no doubt that the record keeping
procedures and protocol are in compliance with all applicable laws
and beyond. She noted that records are retained beyond legal time
frames. She stated that the issue has been misstated and was an issue
for Closed Session. She stated that the Agency and Counsel would
defer further comment until such time as the litigation was further
along or dismissed.
City Attorney Leibold stated that the first item listed on Closed
Session was in regard to the Williams case and the Agency would not
be discussing this since she had no update or action requested.
BOARDMEMBSER COMMENTS
Boardmember Metze commented on the following:
Stated that he would like to see Mrs. Hyland produce the
documents that she has been talking about. He stated that for
seven years he had been hearing about "the documents",
however not once has he seen them. He challenged her to
produce all these documents that she claims to have. He noted
that all the documents that she claims to have are public
documents and there is nothing secret about any of the
documents.
Boardmember Brinley commented on the following:
Asked if the Closed Session had anything to do with the hotel
proposed by Inland Pacific. Legal Counsel Leibold stated that
California Bank and Trust has the First Trust Deed Loan on the
K-Mart Parcel.
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Chairman Schiffner commented on the following:
l. Commented on the default on the theater, and noted that when
there is action taken that would justify a comment or report,
then he would bring it to the public.
Boardmember Pape commented on the following:
1. Stated that at the time Chairman Schiffner makes his report,
there would be an announcement that could get the Agency
Board kudos.
THE REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MEETING RECES5ED AT 8:05
P.M.
THE REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY RECONVENED AT 8:32 P.M.
THE REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MEETING ADJOiIRNED TO
CLOSED SESSION AT 8:32 P.M
CLOSED SESSION
B. CONFERENCE WITH LEGAL COUNSEL - EXISTING
LITIGATION (Subdivision (a) of section 54956.9) California Bank
and Trust v. City of Lake Elsinore et al (Riverside Co. Superior Court
Case #344190)
THE REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MEETING RECONVENED AT
9:00 P.M. WITH NO REPORTABLE ACTION.
ADJOURNMENT
MOVED BY BRINLEY, SECONDED BY METZE AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO ADJOURN THE REGULAR
REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MEETING AT 9:00 P.M.
ROBERT SCHIFFNErR, CHAIRMAN
REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
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Respectfully submitted,
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Adria L. Bryning, Assistant Clerk of the Board
ATTEST:
VICKI KASAD, CLERK OF THE BOARD
MINUTES
REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY STUDY SESSION
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
130 SOUTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA
TUESDAY, JULY 11, 2000
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CALL TO ORDER
Chairman Schiffner called the Redevelopment Agency Study Session to
order at 4:45 p.m.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: BOARDMEMBERS: BRINLEY, KELLEY
SCHIFFNER
ABSENT: BOARDMEMBERS: METZE, PAPE
Also present were: Executive Director Watenpaugh, Assistant Executive
Directar Best, Legal Counsel Leibold, Community Development Director
Brady, Information/Communications Manager Dennis and Assistant Clerk
of the Board Bryning.
Agenda Review for Redevelopment Agency Agenda. (F: 134.1)
There were no questions regarding the Agendized items.
Chairman Schiffner stated that due to requests at the Redevelopment
Agency Meeting he would ask that staff prepare a report on a
quarterly basis presenting the financial status of the Agency.
ADJOiIRNMENT
THE REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY STUDY SESSION WAS
ADJOURNED AT 4:46 P.M.
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ROBERT SCHIFFN , CHAIRMAN
REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
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Respectfully submitted,
G~~~L~~~~~
ria L. Bryning, ~~~y~~~~
Assistant Clerk of the Board
ATTEST:
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VICHI KASAD
CLERK OF THE BOARD
MINUTES
REGULAR REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MEETING
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
183 NORTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA
MONDAY, JULY 24, 2000
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CALL TO ORDER
The Regular Redevelopment Agency Meeting was called to order by Chairman
Schiffner at 8:25 p.m.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: BOARDMEMBERS: BRINLEY, KELLEY, METZE,
PAPE, SCHIFFNER
ABSENT: BOARDMEMBERS: NONE
Also present were: Executive Director Watenpaugh, Assistant Executive
Director Best, Assistant Legal Counsel Mann, Administrative Services
Director Boone, Community Development Director Brady, Community
Services Director Sapp, Fire Chief Seabert, Police Chief Walsh,
Information/Communications Manager Dennis, City Treasurer Ferro and
Clerk of the Board Kasad.
PUBLIC COMMENTS - AGENDIZED ITEMS
None Requested.
CONSENT CALENDAR
MOVED BY BRINLEY, SECONDED BY METZE AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR AS
PRESENTEA
City Manager Watenpaugh inquired if additional action would be required on Item
5 to allow for a loan from the City to the Agency. Assistant Legal Counsel Mann
indicated that all appropriate action was contemplated in the report provided in the
agenda packet.
The following Minutes were approved:
a. Redevelopment Agency Study Session - July 11, 2000. (F:1343)
b. Regular Redevelopment Agency Meeting - July 11, 2000.
2. Ratified the Warrant List for July 14, 2000. (F:12.3)
3. ~` Adopted Resolution No. RDA 2000-6 - Confirxning F/Y 2000-01 Special
Taaces - CFD 90-2 (Tuscany Hills Public Improvements). (F:22.3)
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RESOLUTION NO. RDA 2000-6
A RESOLUTION OF THE REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY OF THE
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA, REQUESTING THE
TAX COLLECTOR OF THE COUNTY OF RIVERSIDE TO PLACE
SPECIAL TAXES ON THE BILLS OF CERTAIN PROPERTIES.
4. Concurred with Council Action to continue the matter of Lake Elsinore
Outlet Center Specific Plan Amendment No. 3, Zone Change No. 00-02,
Minor Design Review No. 00-02, and Negative Declaration No. 00-02
(Castle and Cooke California, Inc.) to August 22, 2000. (F:150.2)(X:172.2)
5. Concurred with Council Action to Conceptually Approve the project of
Century Builders as presented to be funded in the current general fund
budget and directed staff and the City Attorney to draft a conceptual
agreement for execution by the City Manager/Executive Director. (F:87.1)
PUBLIC COMMENTS - NON-AGENDIZED ITEMS
CY7ris Hyland, 15191 Wavecrest, noted that she just returned from Phoenix AZ,
which has been acclaimed as the best managed city in the United States; and
indicated that, in her opinion, Lake Elsinore was the worst managed City in the
U.S. She noted recent lawsuits and settlements against the City and suggested that
in the past 12 yezi•s the leaders have not paid attention to the experts. She quoted
statements by the former City Attorney regarding the theater agreement and
suggested if someone did not agree with the Council they were out the door. She
noted comments that the theater people were different from the hotel people and
indicated that she had checked the documents and the company principles were
the same. She indicated that they were just like TMC with its 29 different
companies. She suggested that the whole hotel fa~ade was a fa~ade, that would
end in a big lawsuit.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR COMMENTS
No Comments.
LEGAL COUNSEL COMMENTS
No Comments.
BOAI2DMEMBER COMMENTS
Vice Chairwoman Kelley clarified that the current Council had not approved the
theater loan; it was a different attorney and a different Council.
CL,OSED SESSIOIV
Assistant I,egal Counsel Mann announced the Closed Session items as listed on
the Agenda.
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A. CONFERENCE WITH LEGAL COUNSEL--EXISTING LITIGATION
(Subdivision (a) of section 54956.9) Williams v. City of Lake Elsinore (4'~'
Appellate Case # E024487); Williams and Hassan v. City of Lake Elsinore
(4"' Appellate District Case # E025201).
B. CONFERENCE WITH LEGAL COUNSEL-- EXISTING LITIGATION
(Subdivision (a) of Section 54956.9) Redevelopment Agency of the City of
Lake Elsinore vs. Sportsman's Lodge (4`~' Appellate District Case
#E024762/Riverside Superiar Court Case #257164).
THE REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MEETING WAS RECESSED AT 8:31
P.M.
THE REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MEETING RECONVENED AT 9:00
P.M.
THE REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MEETING ADJOURNED TO A
JOINT CLOSED SESSION WITH THE CITY COUNCIL FOR
DISCUSSION OF THE ABOVE LISTED MATTERS AT 9:01 P.M.
THE REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MEETING WAS RECONVENED AT
9:30 P.M. NO ACTION TAKEN.
ADJOURNMENT
MOVED BY BRINLEY, SECONDED BY KELLEY AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO ADJOURN THE REGULAR REDEVELOPMENT
AGENCY MEETING AT 9:31 P.M.
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ROBERT L. SCHIFF R, CHAIRMAN
REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
ATTEST:
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VICHI KASAD, CMC, CLERK OF THE BOARD
REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
MINUTES ,
CITY COUNCIL/REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY STUDY SESSION
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
130 SOUTH MAIlV STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA
MONDAY, JULY 24, 2000
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The Gity CounciURede~elopment Agency Study Session was called to order by
Councilman Schiffner at.4:O5 p.m.
RnT,T, rA~.r, : ,
PRESENT: COUNCII,MEMBERS: I~ELLEY, SCHIF'FNER
ABSENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: BRINLEY; METZE, PAPE
Also present: `City Manager. Wat~npaugh; Assistant City Manager Best; Assistant Ciry
Attorney IVIann; Communiry Development Directar Brady,
InformationlCamrriunications :Manager Dennis and . City Clerk/Hurnan Resources
Director Kasad. r : .. - .
A. Agenda Review.
Presentafion - Riverside County Integrated Plan.
Councilwoman Kelley indicated that most of her questions related to the
Integrated Plan presentation. City Managar Watenpaugh indicated that the
presentation would be done with Powerpoint and last about 15 minutes. He
noted that there is the assumption that there may be more questions than could
be accommodated in 15 minutes, so an additional meeting may be necessary for
a. more in-depth discussion. Councilwoman Kelley noted that the maps
provided were very detailed and difficult to interpret; however she was most
interested in the habitat issues. Councilman Schiffner indicated that he did not
believe the County representatives would address the habitat issues. City
Manager Watenpaugh noted that habitat was of the most concern to the Council
and the County representatives know that they need to discuss that issue.
Councihnan Schiffner noted that he recently had the opportunity to tell the
reporter from the Californian what he thought about the habitat plan. City
Manager Watenpaugh concurred that Councilman Schiffner's' comments were
reported in the newspaper: ;
Councilwoman Kelley noted the differences between Figure 1 and Figure 3 and
rndicated that she. was not certain as to the major difFerences between them.
City Manager Watenpaugh indicated that those figures addressed the land uses,
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wiuch are not a concern'for the City.' He stressed the concerns with the habitat
plan.
CounciUman Schiffner noted that he saw an expansion of the maps presented at
a recent meeting; and noted that the Powerpoint presentations are in color which
makes them easier to understand. He further noted that at kus last habitat
meeting they discussed preparation for 164 species, although only 27 are
currently required. He suggested the need for a compromise on this issue and
indicated that he would like to see an overlay of the proposed areas; noting that
it might be possible to eliminate some species in specific areas. Ciry Manager
Watenpaugh clarified that ttie Counry plan will be a new staudard; but very
e~ensive and expensive, with heavy impacts on cities with a lot of remaining
open space. Eouncilrnan Schiffner:noted'that the City of Temecula commented
at the EDC meeting that the County was prepazed to approve development
around the French Ualley airport, even though the study is not done yet.
Councilwoman Kelley `noted that the transportation corridors will clepend on the
T`UNIF fees. City Managet Watenpaugh clarified that the TiJMF fees will
address mare of the major corridors like Highways '74 and '79. iComrnunity
Development Directar Brady clarified the coordination of '1'CJMF fees with
regional issues. Councilwoman Kelley noted that there would be a meeting
regarding 1'iJ1vIF fees on August 11~`. She suggested thatddepending on the`
comments at the Council meeting she felt Council would want a study session
on this issue.
Councilman Schiffner addressed the habitat issues and noted that he was not
sure there was anything the City could do about them, as they are mandated
with no guidelines.
Resolutions Confirming Special Assessments and Special Taxes.
Councilman Schiffner questioned these items to determine whether they were
new taYes or merely housekeeping issues. City Manager Watenpaugh clarified
that these items are renewed anzzually and confirmed that they were
housekeeping iterns:
Agreement for Architectural Services Skatepark Facility.
Councilwoman Kelley indicated that she was glad to see this item on the
agenda. City Manager Watenpaugh explained the design for the park area with
a large concrete slab. He further eaplained that it will be a portable and
moveable facility; which could be reconfigured and changed. Councilwoman
Kelley noted the new more durable materials a~ailable. Councilman Schiffner
questioned the proposed site. Councilwoman Kelley indicated that it was
immediately below the fire station at McVicker park. City Manager
Watenpaugh further clarified the location. Couneilman Schiffner questioned
how much land it would require. City Manager Watenpaugh indicated that it
would be about 1 to 1-1/4 acres. Councilman Schiffner inquired ho~v much
land the fire station would require. Mr. Watenpaugh indicated it would take
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1-1/2 acres. Councilman Schiffner questioned the ability to swap:the two sates.
City Manager Watenpaugh indicated that would make the fire station lower
rather than higher and clarified the fire statioi~ needs. Councilwoman Kelley
noted that this appeared to be for the smaller pian discussed: City Manager
Watenpaugh clarified that tlus would be for the larger plan with concessions,
eta Councilman Schiffner questioned the estirnated cost for the full
improvements: Councilwoman Kelley indicated that there were several dif~erent
designs. Gity Manager Watenpaugh indicated that a facility could costs from
$90,000 to $250,000: Councilwoman Kelley:indicated that the facility would
not be on the high end, as Canyon Lake is very fiscally conservative on this
issue, as is Lake Elsinore. City Managet Watenpaugh noted that $40,000 was
allocated for this design work, but the cost will only be $22,500. Councilman
Schiffner inquired whether with the moveable~improvements the location could
be changed: Councilwoman Kelley confirmed. Ciry Manager Watenpaugh
clarified that the intent would be to allow for adjustment of the layout of the
course.
Report from the Mayor's Fire Station Naming Committee.
Councilman Schii~ner questioned the intent of this item. City Manager
Watenpaugh indicated that the intent was to choose a name; and explained that
the original direcrion was to present the Council with three possible names. He
noted that the Committee would be present at the meeting. He also noted the
recommendation for a separate plaque: Councilman Schiffner inquired if the
City was' iocked in xo a specific spot for the fire station. Ciry Manager
Watenpaugh indicated that it could be relocated, but it would be a matter of the
costs for redesign. Councilwoman Kelley questioned Gouncilman Schiffner's
interest in relocating the starion. Councilman Schiffner indicated that he was
concemed with the money required to raise the grade of the site. Ciry Manager
Watenpaugh indicated that requirement was not yet confiimed: Councilman
Schiffner suggested if it:was a major problem, it could be moved to where it
would be more accessible from Crrand Avenne.
' Lake Elsinore Outlet Center Specifie Plan Ame~dment No- 3, Zone
Change No. 00-02, Minor Design Review No. 00-02 and Negative
Declaration No. 00-02 (Gastle and Cook ~alifornia; Inc. )
Councilwoman Kelley questioned this item and whether there would be a study
session on it. City Manager Watenpaugh ad~ised that a study session is desired,
but no date had yet been set. He also noted that the Outlet Center had requested
a meeting to allow Councii to meet the new representatives.
Agreement with Century Builders.
Councilman Schiffner commented on this item and looked forward to more
details on the proposal:
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Amendment to City Ordinance for Towing Service.
Councilwoman Kelley questioned this item and the status ofdiscussions: City
Manager Watenpaugh indicated that Chief Wa1sh still needed to meet with the
towing companies, so it would come back to the ne~ City Council meeting.
He explained that the main concem was with "rsgard to a franchise fee, and how
much it would be and how it would work; which the Chief was going to
explain. Councilman Schiffiier inquired regarding the urgency of this issue.
Ciry Manager Watenpaugh noted that if a new company were to eome into the
City under the new ordinance, .they would be required to obtain a business
license and have a storage facility imthe City; which would not be required at
this time. He indicated that staff felt it was an important issue. . Councilman
Schiffner concurred and supported the abiliry. to place conditions on the business
license. He questioned the need far additional continuances.. City Manager
Watenpaugh e~ressed. belief that the meeting would occur soon and the matter
should be back at the ne~ meeting.
Agreement with Century Builders.:
City Manager Watenpaugh indicated that staff had been meeting with this
company for neariy a yeaz to discuss low and moderate income in-~'ill hausing,
and both sides were now ready to proceed. He advised that the funds aze
budgeted this year and the main points ha~e been identified in the report, but the
representative will bring details to the Council meeting. He noted that the
developer would hope to address several homes in one locatioq to inswe a
signi~icant impact. He advised that the properties would generally be in the
historic overlay district. Councilwoman Kelley inquired if this program would
: use manufact~ared homes: City Manager Watenpaugh confinned and noted that
theywould be: about 1200 to 1640 square feet and meet the requirements of the
' downtown area. He ftuther advised hat the Ciry will fund the pernut fees up to
about $7,500 perproperty, with a lien on the property.` He explained that when
the property is sold or the properly changes from low/moderate, the owner
would ha~e to repay the fees; the funds would go back into the City funds. He
fiuther expiained that the intent would be for a loan from the:Gity to the RDA
with an agreement for repayment, when there is value in the area.
Councilwoman ; Kelley requ~sted clarification :that .they would be building 12
homes in one area. City Manager Watenpaugh indicated they would like to
build 25 in one area if they can obtain the lots; and noted that there are several
areas with 3 ar 4 homes per block; and some may be torn down.
Councilwoman Kelley mquired if there would be maintenance guidelines for
these properties City Manager Watenpaugh indicated that he was not certain
as to what could be regulated. Councilwoman Kelley noted that the homes are
very small by today's standards and questioned the cost factors, Assistant City
Manager Best indieated that the company was willing to work on long term
maintenance issues, and noted that Mr. Alvarado had been working on this type
of projects for many years. Councilwoman Kelley expressed concern with
creating a problem in the area. Councilman' Schiffner noted that the only
difference between these homes and others in the community, wouid be that the
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Ciry would be subsidizing the permit fees. Community Development Director
: Brady noted that the same property maintenance requirements would apply, as
with a~ry other property in the City. Councilwoman Kelley noted the City's
investtnent in the project and stressed the pubiic perceptions the properiy will
carry if the City is involved. She further stressed that she would want the
program to remain positive for the community in the long term. Councilman
Schiffner noted that; in general; the properties would be significandy upgraded,
since the area is pretty downtrodden at this point and they might aetually wipe
out some of the problem properties. He indicated that he could only see it as a
positive. City Manager Watenpaugh expressed understanding of the concerns
discussed, but noted the need for the City to participate in such a program.
Councilman SchifFner supported building these homes in groups;:'rather than
scattered through the area, in order to make a quality visual statement. He
requested clarification that the intent would be to do 25 homes in the first year.
City Manager Watenpaugh indicated that they would like; to do S0; however it is
a question of what the City can afford. Councilman Schiffner indicated that the
program sounds great, and suggested' that when funds were available the City
would want to do a similar prograxn on its own.
:Committee Reports. : ,
City Manager Watenpaugh noted that he was aware of comments for the Lake
Elsinore and San Jaeinto Watershed Area JPA and an upcoming RTA Program.
Gouncilma~i Schiffiier noted the intent to mention the cooperation arrangement
between the City and Water District. City Manager Watenpaugh confumed and
clarified that the cooperarive agreement is about ready to move forward.
Councilman Schiffiier noted that he has not found anything in the Habitat
meetings that was worthy of reporting, until they come up with a more specific
approach. ' City Manager Watenpaugh noted that ane of the local builders had
their project stopped because of :environmental issues.. There was generai
discussion of habitat and the impact on the overall plan. City Manager
Watenpaugh indicated that the developer had already dedicated just under 60
acres and spent money on the environmental fees: Councilwoman Kelley
questioned the acreage being required in other cities. Gity Manager
Watenpaugh indicated that no numbers were being provided; but the areas were
designated on a map: He estimated that 27% of the City is already in open
space, but at least 20% of what could be classified that way is already open
space. Councilman Schiffner supported the comments of the previous week
and suggested the need far more comments regard'mg the impact on City
development. He stressed the limited amount ofrecourse a~ailable to the City,
and emphasized the amount of land involved. City Manager Watenpaugh noted
that there was an argument that this wauld increase the property values, but
suggested that it would stop development in Lake Elsinore. Councilman
Schiffner concurred and noted that there was no great advantage to have rat
_habiYat next door either: Gity Manager Watenpaugh noted that 27 of the 30
pending Grranite. Homes have already been sold'. Community Development
Director Brady mdicated tliat Granite Homes still had 103 lots left in addition to
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the 30 under construction; with the lots going for from $45,000 to $50,000.
Councilman' Schiffner noted that the Habitat group is valuing properiy at $2,000
per acre.
Redevelopment Agency ltems
Councilxnan Schiffner noted that the RDA:agenda consisted af the same topics
atready discussed.
Closed Session .
City Manager Watenpaugh noted that there were two Closed Session matters for
discussion, being the Williams litigation and the Sportsman's Lodge lirigation.
Pubtic Comments _
Chris Hyland, 15191 Wavecrest Dri~e, qnestioned the public hearing on the
LLMD and whether the rates would be increased. City Manager clarified the
public hearing and indicated that it was not possible to increase the rates. Mrs.
Hyland questioned the agreement with Quantum ~onneci: :~ity Manager
Watenpaugh explained that this was for the placement of fiber optics in the
' streets for telecommunicarions; cable, etc, Chris Hyland inquired if this would
mean that there were two saurces for television. City Manager Watenpaugh
indicated thatthis would allow for negotiation far ~iber oprics in the City. Mrs.
Hyland questioned what was being placed in the' gound right now; City
Manager Watenpaugh indicated that he understood that it was an upscale
copper, not fiber optics; and noted another major project from San Bernardino
to San Diega Councilwoman Keiley inquired if staff was still reviewing the
work being done and indicated that, Crrand Avenue, looked terrible. City
Manager Watenpaugh: indicated that staff would address the portion within the
City.
' Councilma~i Schiff~er inquired why the LLMD required a public ,hearings,
when the other districts did not. City Manager Watenpaugh clarified that the
LL1VID requ'vred annual ratification due to the way it was formed; which was
different from: the CFD's and Assessment District. Assistant City Attorney
Mann noted that it was related to the difference between assessments and taa~es.
Gouncilwoman Kelley requested clarification that the Railroad Canyon
landscaping would begin on September l6~'. :
Councilman Schiffner noted a refi-igerator dumped on Grrand Avenue, north of
Ortega Highway. Ciry Manager Watenpaugh indicated that staff.would notify
the properly owner to clean it up. Assistant Gity Attorney Mann suggested that
a refrigerator might:constitute a hazard. Councilman Schiffner indicated that
the area was very visible and it would be nice to ha~e a quick way to abate the
problem. City Manager Watenpaugh suggested that staff could pick it up,' if he
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could get more specifics on its location. Councilman Schiffner indicated that he
would hate to see a trash pile start.
Councilwoman Kelley questioned the status of the Academy. City Manager
Watenpaugh indicated that the property would be closing escrow in August and
he had put the new property owners in touch with adjacent properiy owners.
The Study Session was adjourned at 4:50 p.m.
ItOBERT L. SCHffFNER, COLTNCILMAN
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
A TEST:
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VICKI KASAD, CMC, CITY CLERK
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
MINUTES
REGULAR REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MEETING
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
183 NORTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA
TUESDAY, AUGUST 8, 2000
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CALL TO ORDER
The Regular Redevelopment Agency Meeting was called to order by Chairman
Schiffner at 9:25 p.m.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: BOARDMEMBERS: BRINLEY, KELLEY, METZE,
PAPE, SCHIFFNER
ABSENT: BOARDMEMBERS: NONE
Also present were: Executive Director Watenpaugh, Assistant Executive Director
Best, Legal Counsel Leibold, Administrative Services Director Boone,
Community Development Director Brady, Community Services Director Sapp,
Fire Chief Seabert, Police Chief Walsh, Information/Communications Manager
Dennis, City Engineer O'Donnell, City Treasurer Ferro and Clerk of the
Board/Human Resources Director Kasad.
PUBLIC COMMENTS - AGENDIZED ITEMS
No Comments.
CONSENT CALENDAR
MOVED BY BRINLEY, SECONDED BY KELLEY AND CARRIED BY
UNAlVIMOUS VOTE TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR AS
PRESENTED.
The following Minutes were approved:
a. City Council/Redevelopment Agency Study Session - July 24, 2000.
b. Regular Redevelopment Agency Meeting - July 24, 2000. (F:134.3)
PUBLIC COMMENTS - NON-AGENDIZED ITEMS
Chris Hyland, 15191 Wavecrest, inquired if there was a report available with
regard to the status of the monies for the Redevelopment Agency, such as the
outstanding debts.
Executive 3~irector Watenpaugh advised that summary sheets had been prepared,
and were available to the public regarding City, Redevelopment Agency, Public
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Finance Authority and Recreation Authority debts on one sheet. He further
advised that budgets for each agency are also available.
LEGAL COUNSEL COMMENTS
Legal Counsel Leibold announced the Closed Session items as listed on the
agenda.
BOARDMEMBER COMMENTS
Chairman Schiffner commented on the finances of the Redevelopment Agency
and noted that the information provided is done so routinely. He indicated that
staff will be providing a quarterly report for the agenda packet, when payments are
received.
THE REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MEETING WAS RECESSED AT 9:29
P.M.
THE REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MEETING RECONVENED AT 10:07
P.M.
CLOSED SESSION
A. CONFERENCE WITH LEGAL COUNSEL--EXISTING LITIGATION
(Subdivision (a) of section 54956.9) Williams v. City of Lake Elsinore (4`i'
Appellate Case E024487); Williams and Hassan v. City of Lake Elsinore
(4~' Appellate District Case # E025201).
B. CONFERENCE WITH LEGAL COUNSEL-- EXISTING LITIGATION
(Subdivision (a) of Section 54956.9) Redevelopment Agency of the City of
Lake Elsinare vs. Sportsman's Lodge (4th Appellate District Case
#E024762/Riverside Superior Court Case #257164).
C. CONFERENCE WITH LEGAL COUNSEL--EXISTING LITIGATION
(Subdivision (a) of section 54956.9) California Bank & Trust v. City of
Lake Elsinore et al (Riverside Co. Superior Court Case #344190)
THE REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MEETING WAS ADJOURNED TO
CLOSED SESSION AT 10:07 P.M. FOR DISCUSSION OF THE ABOVE
LISTED MATTERS.
THE REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MEETING RECONVENED AT 11:38
P.M. WITH NO REPORTABLE ACTION.
ADJOURNMENT
MOVED BX BRINLEY, SECONDED BY PAPE AND CARRIED BY
iJNANYMOUS VOTE TO ADJOURN THE REGULAR REDEVELOPMENT
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AGENCY MEETING AT 11:39 P.M.
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ROBERT L. SCHIFF R, CHAIRMAN
REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
ATTEST:
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VICKI KASAD, CLE OF THE BOARD
REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
MINUTES
REGULAR REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MEETING
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
183 NORTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA
TUESDAY, AUGUST 22, 2000
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CALL TO ORDER
The Redevelopment Agency Meeting was called to order by Chairman Schiffner
at 835 p.m.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: BOARDMEMBERS:
BRINLEY, KELLEY, METZE,
PAPE, SCHIFFNER
ABSENT: BOARDMEMBERS:
NONE
Also present were: Executive Director Watenpaugh, Assistant Executive
Director Best, Legal Counsel Leibold, Administrative Services Director
Boone, Community Development Director Brady, Police Chief Walsh, City
Engineer O'Donnell, Information/Communications Manager Dennis, Public
Works Manager Payne Recreation and Tourism Manager Edelbrock, City
Treasurer Ferro and Clerk of the Board Kasad.
PUBLIC COMMENTS - AGENDIZED ITEMS
None requested.
CONSENT CALENDAR
MOVED BY BRINLEY, SECONDED BY PAPE AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR AS
PRESENTED.
The following Minutes were approved:
a. City CounciURedevelopment Agency Study Session - August 8,
2000.
b. Regular Redevelopment Agency Meeting - August 8, 2000.
2. Ratified Warrant List for July 14, 2000.
3. Received and ordered filed the Investment Report for June, 2000.
4. Concurred with Council Action to approve the Lake Elsinore Outlet Center
Specific Plan Amendment No. 3, Zone Change No. 00-02, Minor Design
Review No. 00-02, and Negative Declaration No. 00-02 (Castle and Cooke
California, Inc.)
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Concurred with Council Action to approve Vesting Tentative Tract Map
No. 23848-9, 10 and 11, Amendment No. 1, Cottonwood Hills Specific
Plan.
PUBLIC COMMENTS - NON-AGENDIZED ITEMS
Chris Hyland, 15191 Wavecrest, noted that she had requested a report on the
financial status of the Redevelopment Agency, at the last meeting. She indicated
that she would expect that copy and pick it up. She expressed concern that the
Redevelopment Agency doesn't spend money in blighted areas, but does a lot of
things like stadiums, theater, etc. She read portions of an article regarding the
Redevelopment Agency in Diamond Bar; which detailed a court decision on the
formation of their Redevelopment District. She cautioned the City with regard to
its Redevelopment Agency. Boardmember Metze responded that he grew up in
Diamond Bar, and indicated that it was a newer community, with no blight. He
concurred with the Court decision, noting that there was no comparison to Lake
Elsinore. He criticized Ms. Hyland for misleading the public.
Boardmember Schiffner advised that the requested financial statement was
available in City Hall; and noted that he would be instituting, on a quarterly basis,
a report on the financial status of the Agency at the regular meetings.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR COMMENTS
No Comments.
LEGAL COUNSEL COMMENTS
Legal Counsel Leibold noted that two items had been advertised for Closed
Session discussion, but indicated that only item B, regarding the initiation of
litigation would be discussed. She announced Item B. as listed below.
BOARDMEMBER COMMENTS
No comments.
THE REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MEETING WAS RECESSED AT 8:39
P.M.
TI3E itEDEVELOPMEN'd' AGENCY MEETING RECONVENED AT 9:16
P.M. '
CLOSED SESSION
A. CONFERENCE WITH LEGAL COUNSEL--EXISTING LITIGATION
(Subdivision (a) of section 54956.9) California Bank & Trust v. City of
Lake Elsinare et al (Riverside Co. Superior Court Case #344190)
B. CONFERENCE WITH LEGAL COLJNSEL -- EXISTING LITIGATION
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Initiation of litigation pursuant to subdivision ( c) of Section 54956.9 (1
case).
THE REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MEETING WAS ADJOURNED TO
CLOSED SESSION AT 9:17 P.M. FOR DISCUSSION OF ITEM B AS
LISTED ABOVE.
THE REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MEETING RECONVENED AT 10:39
P.M. WITH NO REPORTABLE ACTION.
ADJOURNMENT
MOVED BY BRINLEY, SECONDED BY PAPE AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOU5 VOTE TO ADJOURN THE REGULAR REDEVELOPMENT
AGENCY MEETING AT 10:40 P.
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ROBERT L. SCHIFFNE CHAIRMAN
REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
ATTEST:
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VICHI KASAD, CMC, CLERK OF THE BOARD
REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
MINUTES
SPECIAL REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MEETING
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
130 SOUTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA
TUESDAY, AUGUST 29, 2000
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CALL TO ORDER
The Special Redevelopment Agency Meeting was called to order by Chairman Schiffner
at 4:08 p.m.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: BOARDMEMBERS: METZE, PAPE, SCHIFFNER
ABSENT: BOARDMEMBERS: BRINLEY, KELLEY
Also present were: Executive Director Watenpaugh, Assistant Executive Director
Best, Legal Counsel Leibold, Assistant Legal Counsel Mann, Information/
Communications Manager Dennis and Clerk of the Board Kasad.
CLOSED SESSION
CONFERENCE WITH LEGAL COUNSEL - ANTICIPATED LITIGATION -
Initiation of litigation pursuant to subdivision ( c) of Section 54956.9 (1 case).
City Attorney Leibold announced the above listed item for Closed Session discussion.
THE SPECIAL REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MEETING WAS ADJOiIRNED
TO CLOSED SESSION AT 4:09 P.M.
THE SPECIAL REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MEETING WAS
RECONVENED AT 5:29 P.M. WITH NO REPORTABLE ACTION.
ADJOURNMENT
THE 5PECIAL REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MEETING AS ADJOURNED
AT 5:29 P.M.
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ROBERT L. SCHIFFN R, CHAIRMAN
REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
CLERK OF THE BOARD
REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
- 1VIINUTES .
CITY COUNCIL/REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY STUDY SESSION
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
130 SOUTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA
TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 12, 2000
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CALL TO ORDER
Mayor $rinley called the City Council Study Session to order at 4:00 p.m.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: KELLEY,
SCHIFFNER,
, . BRINLEY
ABSENT: = COUNCILMEMBERS: - METZE, PAPE
Aiso present were: City Manager Watenpaugh, Assistant City Manager
Best, Ciry :Attorney Leibold, Gommunity Development Director Brady,
Information/Communications Manager Dennis, and City Clerk/Human
Resources Director Kasad.
DISGUSSION
A. Agenda Review. (F:44:3)
City Clerk Kasad noted that there would be no Invocation at the
Meering. _
Presentations
,Mayor Brinley nated the recognition of the State Legislators in
connection with Proposition 13, She stated that she had invited
the Planning Commissioners to attend and meet with the State
Legislators. She encouraged Council to meet with the
:Legislators prior;to the Meeting.
Mayor Brinley asked if Donna Moran wou~d be ,present for the
presentation, City Clerk Kasad stated that she was not sure;
however there would be a representative from the Historical
Sociery present.
Mayor Brinley stated that John Gonzales will be accepting the
presentation for the Lions Club ~5~' Anniversary recognition.
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Consent Calendar'
City Manager Watenpaugh stated that the purpose of Item No.
6, Settlement - Williams Case; was to a11ow the auditors to
show a paper trail that the Council did take action and that a
settlement was reached and agreed to. He suggested that
Council ratafy their preuious action. Mayor Brinley stated that
she would pull Item No. 6 far Council ratification.
Public Hearings
City Manager Watenpaugh addressed Item No. 21, Refunding
AD 93-1 Bonds - Cottonwood Hills Public Improvement, and
gave an overview of the Bonds and their purpose. He noted that
the Assessment had been in place for a number of years and the
action would allow the release af the funds.
City Manager Watenpaugh addressed Item No. 22, Conducting
Authoriry Hearing for Annexation No. 69, and stated that this '
was to allow for the final Conducting Authority Hearing. He
stated that there were concerns by the residents of Lost Road
regarding the Tract Map, however this issue was regarding the
Annexation. Mayor Brinley asked if LAFCO approved the
annexation with a unanimous vote. City Manager Watenpaugh
stated that they had.
A resident from Tuscany Hills presented his concern regarding
the LUSK Development and stated that he was attending the
meeting to stay informed. He further stated that he felt the
Council was wrong to approve the development. Mayor Brinley
' stated that CounciY made every effort to help resolve the
residents concerns. He noted that some of the residents were
` satisfied, however not all.
Councilman Schiffner stated that it was his understanding that if
everyone signed an agreement, then the conditions that were
' established' would move'forward; however if any one person
does not sign the agreement, then the project'starts a11 over
again.
a,
City Manager Watenpaugh stated that if LUSK could not
negotiate with a11 the property awners to fill upon their properiy,
then there would be no fill and the development would proceed
with different views. He stated that the Annexation has no
bearing upon the concerns of tha residents of Tuscany Hills.
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' Tk~e Tuscany Hills resident stated his concem regarding the
, LUSK" development and stated his disagreement with the
project. He stressed that LUSK was not meeting with the
property owners in Tuscany Hills and he wished Council to be
aware of that fact.
Councilman Schiffner stated that the approval of the Annexation
does not approve the Tract Map.
The Tuscany Hills xesident stated that had they understood the
< process better, they, would:have make a greater effbrt to resist
the development from the very beginning.
Mayor Srinley stressed that the public was welcome to contact
staff at any time and make appointments to discuss their
concerns. :She suggested that the resident from Tus.cany Hills
contact Community Development Director Brady for further
information.
Basiness Items
City Manager Wa"tenpaugh addressed Item:No.' 31 ~ Professional
: Services Agreement - Dangermond Group; and stated that
Council had asked staff to find a consultant that would be able
, to work in Sacramento because of the $2 Billion park bond that
was passed; ,He noted:that Mr. Dangermond was very
knowledgeable about:the park bond funds and the Federal funds
and'grants as well. He noted a meeting that he had with Mr.
: Dangermond and the different projects that they would address
for funding; Mayor Brinley stated that Mr. Dangermond came
highly reeommended due to his experience with bond funding
and gants. Councilman Schiffner stated that the City was
gambling $10,000 in the hopes that Mr: Dangermond would
bring the City more than that amount. City Manager
-- Watenpaugh:stated that it would lae Mr. Dangermond's task to
find the money available that the City would be able to secure.
Mayor Brinley asked if thereason that Mr. Dangermond was
being considered was .because of his experience with the JPIA
and knowledge of the Lake, Gity Manager Watenpaugh stated
that was part of the xeason and also his xeputation and
knowledge of Sacramenta Mayor Brinley- asked if anyone else
had competed For this contract: City Manager Watenpaugh
: stated that Jack Harrison as well;as Mr. Dangermond.
_ Councilkyoman Kelley asked the City Manager to define Phase I
and Phase II. City Manager Watenpaugh stated that Phase I
would i~lude a11 the criteria
PAGE FOUR - STUDY SESSION - SEPTEMBER 12, 2000
for obtaining grant and bond money and Phase II woutd consist
of the preparation of the Crrant Applications. 1Vlayor Brinley
noted that Mr. Dangermond has an e~tensive background in
park;bonds and water issues: and should be an asset to the City.
City Manager Watenpaugh noted that Mr; Dangermond has
suggested that the City of Lake Elsinore might want to consider
beingpart of the legislation in four years: HE noted that if the
City took that action, then the City could becomepart of the
legislation for speci~c funding. Councilwoman Kelley
confumed that Phase I was a'search and discover and asked
when Mr. Dangermond.would: actually provide the Grant
information and when and how to apply.
City Attorney Leiboid gave an.overview of Item No: 32, Tnlake
Projects EnvironmentalReview, and explained that the scope of
service :was`. for, the preparation of the en~ironruental
' documentation to conduct a CEQA: review: Mayor Brinley
stated that she would call upon the City Attorney to clarify this
item for the public. She questioned the appropriation of
$117,160 and asked if the other members of the JPIA will be
sharing costs. Ciry Manager Watenpaugh stated that the City
would iead with the requested funds and seeking reimbursement
from the JPIA. He explained that the only question-was how
' mueh the City would be reimbursed. Mayor Brinley asked the
City Manager to clarify this itemat the Gouncil Meeting.
Councilman Schiffner clatified the resources of the funding. He
. indicated that Section S- JPA Coordination, is critical and
noted that it states that HDR would work with Montgomery
Watson at EVMWD: Mayor Briniley noted the importance of
this item'. Councilman Schiffner questioned the reimbursement.
City lYlanager Watenpaugh stated that he couldn't guarantee that
- the City would get all of the funds back, however it would be
the majority of the money.
City Manager Watenpaugh addressed Item No. 33, General Plan
Housing Element Update, 3electibn of Consultant to Prepare
Update, and noted that staffwas not recommending the lowest
bidder, but rather the lowest quali~ed bidder. Mayor Brinley
! asked why The Plarniing Center was chosen. City Manager
Watenpaugh stated that 7'he Plannmg Center was the best
qualified and had the most experience for the required job.
Mayor Brinley quesrioned if the Gity was obligated by law to
take the lowest bidder. City Attorney Leibold stated that the
City is not bound by the same rules for professional services.
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Mayor Brinley indicated that she would call upon the City
Attorney to explain the difference between a Public Works
contract and a contract for professional services: Gity Manager
Watenpaugh noted the expertise of The Planning Center
regarding the Housing Element, Mayor Brinley cocnmented on
the urgent need for an updateto talce in all the new developrnent.
City Manager Watenpaugh addressed Item Numbers 34 and 35
- Second reading of Ordinance Numbers 1066 and 1067, and
noted that they are housekeeping items for the Outlet Center.
There were no questions regardingthese items.
City Mariager Watenpaugh noted that Item No: 36'was second
reading{of Ordinance 1068 relating to the Sign Ordiriance. He
explained that this'Or.dinance was to address signs.on a
temporary basis to a11ow the City to'.be more business friendly.
He explained that this is temporary, since the entire Sign
Ordinance will be addressed at a later date: There were no
questions regarding this item.
Committee Reports - -
Councilwoman Kelley asked if the Council would address only
the Committees that they had some news about. Mayor Brinley
concurred and asked that the Goinmittee Reports be presented
on the second City Council Meeting Agenda instead of both.
City Manager Watenpaugh suggested that the Mayor asked in
general and if there are no reports, then rnove to the ne~ item.
Mayor Brinley agreed. City manager Watenpaugh, stated that '
there rnight be committees that need to have reports more tt~an
once a morith. Mayor Brinley agreed to call for reports in
general and if there are none move on to the next item.
Councilman Schiffner stated that he would prefer that all the
cornmittees not be listed on the Agenda. City Manager
Watenpaugh stated that a list of all the Cotnmittees and who sits
them could be provided to each Councilmember.
Redevelapment Agency
Chairman Schiffner noted that the items on the Agenda are
housekeeping items and there was nothing on the Agenda that
required discussion. He made note of the Closed Sessions and
stated th~~ they were the same items that Council is considering
as well. '
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£ity Manager Comments
City Manager Watenpaugh stated that he would:address the
_followingc Railroad Canyon Road; Pa1m Tree relocation; and
parking citations.
City Council Comments
Councilwoman Kelley questioned the Stadium Lighting. City
Manager Watenpaugh gave an overview of the lighting at the
Sta~iium and rioted that.if the generator could.not operate the
lights, then school was prepared to play aftemoon.games. He
eaplained that it.wouid be prohibitive to operate the generator 24
hours a day if it is left operating at fi~ll capacity,;however staff
does not expect the generator to run at full capacity to provide
- lighting and riecessary electricity. ° `
Councilwoman Kelley noted the graffiri on the building on
Riverside Drive, City Manager Watenpaugh stated:that the new
owner has just had a loan approved and he would be encouraged
' to address'the problem. :
:Mayor Brinley noted that since there was no pastor a~ailable for
Invocation, the City Attorney suggested that Council observe a
moment of silence far personal prayer.
ADJOURNMENT .
THE CITY COUNCIL,STUDY SESSI WAS ADJOURNED AT
5:10 P.M.
PAME A B E, MAYOR
CITY OF KE ELSINORE
ATTEST: -
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VICKI KA AD, CITY CLERK/
HUMAN RESOURCES DIRECTOR
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
MINUTES
REGULAR REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MEETING
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
183 NORTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA
TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 12, 2000
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CALL TO ORDER
The Regular Redevelopment Agency Meeting was called to order by Chairman
Schiffner at 8:20 p.m.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: BOARDMEMBERS: BRINLEY, KELLEY, PAPE,
SCHIFFNER
ABSENT: BOARDMEMBERS: METZE
Also present were: Executive Director Watenpaugh, Assistant Executive
Director Best, Legal Counsel Leibold, Administrative Services Director
Boone, Community Development Director Brady, Community 5ervices
Director Sapp, Police Chief Walsh, Engineering Manager O'Donnell,
Information/Communications Manager Dennis, and Clerk of the Board
Kasad.
PUBLIC COMMENTS - AGENDIZED ITEMS
None Requested.
CONSENT CALENDAR
MOVED BY PAPE, SECONDED BY KELLEY AND CARRIED BY
UNArTIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO APPROVE THE
CONSENT CALENDAR AS PRESENTED.
The following Minutes were approved:
a. Regular Redevelopment Agency Meeting ^ August 22, 2000.
b. Special Redevelopment Agency Meeting ^ August 29, 2000.
2. Ratified Warrant List for August 31, 2000.
PUBLIC COMMENTS - NON-AGENDIZED ITEMS
Chris Hyland, 15191 Wavecrest, indicated that the Council had been "caught".
She indicated that when the ball stadium contract was passed and signed, she
suggested that the City would have it back within two years; she repeated her "I
Told You So°' chant. She noted a lawsuit in Diamond Bar in which the City lost
and the citizens won, with the City being barred from having a Redevelopment
Agency. She suggested that Lake Elsinore had abused the Redevelopment
PAGE TWO - REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MINUTES
Agency monies on projects which have turned to sawdust and lawsuits; and
predicted that there would be two more in the next year and a half. She addressed
an article o~ the HCD audit and comments by Assistant Executive Director Best
and suggested that the necessary funds could be found by getting rid of high paid
City jobs, stopping the filing of frivolous lawsuits such as Cleveland Ridge and
having the Council resign.
Linda Nanetti, 16293 Cimarron Road, indicated that she thought everything was
going well until the September 8`~' Press Enterprise article regarding the HCD
audit. She suggested that someone did something wrong and expressed concern
for the cost of having to improve or correct an existing situation. She suggested
that results of the various consulting contracts are never seen; and commented on
the potential for misappropriation of funds. She indicated that the residents had a
right t~ knnw if a mistake was made, since the public money was being expended.
She indicated that she was concerned and disappointed by what she had read in the
newspaper.
Boardmember Brinley requested that Legal Counsel address the issues presented
by Ms. Nanetti. She also suggested inviting Ms. Nanetti to City Hall to sit down
with bond counsel and the financial people, so she would have the full background
before making judgements.
Legal Counsel Leibold clarified that the difficulty was with the terminology being
used, which was imprecise and only served to sensationalize the issue. She
reviewed what the HCD audit had concluded, the findings and the consequences
of those conclusions and findings. She indicated that the City was notified by
HCD that it was going to conduct an audit of the housing funds for the years 1994-
95 through 1998-99. They supplied a list of desired information, which staff
provided. She further indicated that staff inet with the Housing and Community
Development Department representatives for a number of hours to answer
questions. She advised that they concluded the audit with high compliments on
the accuracy and precision of the accounting; and with respect to the period of the
audit they made no findings with respect to tfie use of the funds. She fiirther
advised that they deferred to a reliance on a court decision validating the agency
actions. She explained that in the course of the audit the agency indicated that
they would be looking at an additional five years back and evaluate certain
findings during those five yeaxs; and for those years the RDA's were allowed to
make findings that there was not a need to set aside funds into a separate housing
account. She detailed the findings and procedures which were followed; and
noted the Resolution and findings which had been sent to HCD for review,
without challenge. She explained that the passage of time allowed the action
to become valid. She indicated that the HCD had now decided that those findings
were inappropriate after the statute of limitations has already run out. No response
to those findings was forwarded and she indicated that she questioned why the
Council would ask legal counsel to expend resources to review the facts of ten
years ago when the law and the community are now very different. She explained
that the final conclusion was that the Agency should repay the 20% set-aside for
those years. She stressed that there was no diversion of funds, the HCD has no
enforcement authority, and there was no requirement that the City pay the funds.
PAGE THREE-REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MINUTES
She further stressed that the issue has been sensationalized. She indicated that
the Agency has an implementation plan which will coordinate with the housing
element to provide housing to all financial segments of the community. She noted
a recent transaction with Lakeside Apartments, which will provide long term
affordable housing covenants. She stressed that the Agency was currently
satisfying the requirements and commented on her work with agencies all over the
state of California. She also noted that she teaches courses on affordable housing
law and offered to respond to further questions.
Chairman Schiffner indicated that it would be untruthful to say that had he been
here he would have taken different action; and commented that he could not put
himself in the position of the elected officials at that time. He noted that looking
back in retrospect, in light of the problems, it was relatively easy to say he would
have done it differently. He suggested that it was inappropriate for people to
stand at the podium and make accusations and assume that errors were made in the
past.
Boardmember Pape reiterated that the actions were taken in the past and were not
wrong at the time, as all of the findings and exceptions were allowed. He
stressed that a Riverside Superior Court Judge had authorized the actions and
everything was open and above board. He further stressed that the Department of
Housing was asked to review the actions at that time, but remained silent for ten
years; so to decide there is a problem now, is an absolute waste of tax dollars. He
indicated that he would not see it appropriate to waste money by having legal
counsel address it.
EXECUTIVE DIItECTOR COMMENTS
No Comments.
LEGAL COUNSEL COMMENTS
Legal Counsel Leibold announced the Closed Sessions as noticed, but noted that
only the first three would be discussed.
BOARDMEMBER COMMENTS
No Comments.
THE YtEDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MEETING WAS RECESSED AT 8:36
P.M.
THE REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MEETING RECONVENED AT 9:13
P.M.
CLOSED SESSION
A. CONFERENCE VVITH LEGAL COUNSEL--ANTICIPATED
LI'TIGATION Significant exposure to litigation pursuant to subdivision
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(b)(3)(C) of Section 54956.9: (1 potential case: Claim # 99-24, Liberty
Founders LLC)
B. CONFERENCE WITH LEGAL COUNSEL--ANTICIPATED
LITIGATION Initiation of litigation pursuant to subdivision (c) of Section
54956.9: (1 potential case)
C. CONFERENCE WITH LEGAL COUNSEL--EXISTING LITIGATION
(Subdivision (a) of section 54956.9) California Bank & Trust v. City of
Lake Elsinore et al (Riverside Co. Superior Court Case #344190)
D. CONFERENCE WITH LEGAL COUNSEL--EXISTING LITIGATION
(Subdivision (a) of section 54956.9) Williams v. City of Lake Elsinore (4~'
Appellate Case # E024487); Williams and Hassan v. City of Lake Elsinore
(4th Appellate District Case # E025201)
THE REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MEETING WAS ADJOURNED TO A
JOINT CLOSED SESSION WITH THE CITY COUNCIL AT 9:14 P.M.
FOR DISCUSSION OF THE ABOVE LISTED ITEMS A THROUGH C.
THE REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MEETING RECONVENED AT 10:15
P.M. WITH THE FOLLOWING REPORTABLE ACTION:
THE CITY AND REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY REJECTED THE
LIBERTY FOUNDERS LLC CLAIM AND REQUESTED THAT THE
CI~'Y CLERK NOTIFY THE CLAIMANTS OF THE REJECTION.
ADJOURNMENT
MOVED BY BRINLEY, SECONDED BY KELLEY AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO ADJOURN THE
REGULAR REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MEETING AT 10:19 P.M.
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ROBERT L. SCHIFF R, CHAII2MAN
REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
OF THE BOARD
REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
MINUTES
CITY COUNCIL/REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
STUDY SESSION
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
130 SOUTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA
TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 26, 2000
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CALL TO ORDER
Mayor Brinley called the City Council Study Session to Order at 4:05 p.m.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: KELLEY,
SCHIFFNER,
BRINLEY
ABSENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: METZE, PAPE
Also present were: City Manager Watenpaugh, Assistant City Manager
Best, City Attorney Leibold, Community Development Director Brady, and
Deputy City Clerk Bryning.
DISCUSSION
Agenda Review.(F:44.1)
Invocation
Mayor Brinley noted that Pastor Chuck Aden from Shepard of Life
Lutheran Church would present the invocation.
Presentations
Mayor Brinley asked who would be receiving the proclamation for
EVMWD. Deputy City Clerk Bryning indicated that Mary Brown
from EVMWD would be present to receive the proclamation.
Consent Calendar
City Manager Watenpaugh noted that on Item 1 a Minutes, it should
read November 2000; On lb Minutes, Page 3 of 6, it should read $2
Billion for the Park Bond instead of $2 million; on Page 6 of 6 he
corrected the statement regarding the generator and stated that it
should read as follows: If the generator could not operate the lights
then the school was prepared to play their game during the afternoon,
however the generator did work and they were able to play their
football game at night. He stated that the generator's costs are
prohibitive to operate the lights should read that it was prohibitive to
operate the generator 24 hours a day if it is left operating at full
capacity, but it is not running at full capacity even when it is lighting
PAGE TWO - STUDY SESSION - SEPTEMBER 26, 2000
the stadium with all the lights. Mayar Brinley stated that she would
pull this item to make the corrections.
City Attorney Leibold asked that a correction be made to Item No. 7,
Amendment to the City's Conflict of Interest Code, that a correction
be made on Page 4 of 7, Appendix A, which is a list of designated
employees that are required to complete disclosure statements for
purposes of the Political Reform Act and the City's Conflict of
Interest. She asked that Lake Operations Manager be added under
Community Services Department and City Engineer and Public
Works Inspector should be listed under Community Development
Department. Mayor Brinley stated that she would pull this item to
make corrections. City Attorney Leibold stated that the same
corrections would be made to the Redevelopment Agency Code as
well.
Business Items
Mayor Brinley addressed Item No. 32, Nuisance Abatement
Committee, and stated that she had selected Mr. Tom Franson.
Councilwoman Kelley questioned Item No. 33, Appropriation of
Funds for Stadium Operations and Reimbursement Agreement. City
Manager Watenpaugh explained that this action is an appropriation of
funds should Lakeside Entertainment default on their agreement and a
Reimbursement Agreement between the City and the RDA to
reimburse the funds eapended from the General Fund for the
Redevelopment Agency Stadium.
Redevelopment Agency
Chairman Schiffner noted that item No. 4, Conflict of Interest Code
should be pulled to make the same corrections that the City Council
needs to make. Boardmember Brinley stated that she would pull the
item. Legal Counsel Leibold stated that when the item is pulled for
City Council a change to the Redevelopment Agency item could be
made at the same time.
Closed Session - Redevelopment Agency
Legal Counsel Leibold stated that there is no need to discuss Item A,
however there is a necessity for Item B to be discussed.
Closed Sessions - City Council
City Attorney Leibold stated that at this time Council has no occasion
or no reason to request direction from Council and therefore Items A,
PAGE THREE - STUDY SESSION - SEPTEMBER 26, 2000
B and D would not be discussed. She stated that the only items that it
would be necessary for City Council to discuss in Closed Session
were items C and E.
Mayor Brinley asked if there were any further questions.
Councilman Schiffner questioned Item No. 32 regarding the Stadium
and asked if there was any further information regarding what triggers
the default. City Attorney Leibold explained that Lakeside
Entertainment had notified the City and Agency that they do not have
the financial ability to perform their obligations. She indicated that
information was just received that was requested, with respect to
vendors lists, existing reservations, and other statistical information
regarding their status with respect to Stadium operations. She stated
that they were cooperating with respect to trying to work towards an
orderly transition for the Agency to take over the operations,
recognizing that the Agency would be doing so to mitigate damages
and ease the damages. that would otherwise apply or will apply
because of their default of the lease. She further stated that she would
anticipate that once the Agency digests the information they ha~e
provided, there should be a quick transition. She noted that it should
be within the neat few.weeks. She indicated that would be without
waiving any of the Agency'-s rights or relinquishing any rights that the
Agency may wish to pursue against the tenant. Councilman 5chiffner
asked if a correction had been made regarding the water leak that
caused the problems with the boiler. City Manager Watenpaugh
stated that the team had contacted their contractor that is doing the
maintenance for Lakeside Entertainment and they will be out to take
care of the boiler. He stated that it was his understanding that they
were resolving that issue and it would be resolved prior to the
electrical being done. Councilwoman Kelley asked if an inventory of
the Stadium was in progress. City Manager Watenpaugh stated that
an inventory by video tape of the exterior is being done and was
exactly the same process as when the Stadium was turned over to
Lakeside Entertainment. Councilman Schiffner confirmed that there
was no danger of the leaks still occurring. City Manager Watenpaugh
concurred.
Councilwoman Kelley noted the amount of graffiti on a building on
Riverside Drive and noted that it is now completely covered in
graffiti.
Mayor Brinley made note of the Patricia Center on Riverside Drive
and commented that the owner had painted the building three weeks
ago to cover the graffiti that had been painted on the building and two
days later it was hit again. She asked if Chief Walsh could assign a
patrolman to watch that area. She indicated that the minute the
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building is painted, the vandals are back. City Manager Watenpaugh
stated that subject to having private security on site, there was not
much a patrol unit could do. He noted that the minute the unit is out
of sight the same vandals will be at it again. Mayor Brinley stated
that possibly the City could do something proactive for a few weeks
until staff can talk to the manager of the center to look into some type
of private security. She noted the cost of painting the building and
now it is an issue again.
Councilwoman Kelley noted the improvements at Brookstone. Mayor
Brinley stated that she would make a point of inentioning the
improvements that Mr. Berner has made.
ADJOURNMENT
THE CITY COUNCIL/REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY AGENDA
REVIEW STUDY SESSION ~VA~QDJOURNED AT 4:25 P.M.
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CITY OF LA ELSINORE
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R BERT L. SCHIF , CHAIRMAN
REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
ATTEST:
AD L. B ING,
DEPUTY CITY CLERK
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
MINUTES
REGULAR REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MEETING
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
183 NORTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA
TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 26, 2000
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CALL TO ORDER
Chairman Schiffner called the Redevelopment Agency Meeting to order at 7:35
p.m.
ROY.,L, CALL
PRESENT: BOARDMEMBERS
ABSENT: BOARDMEMBERS
BRINLEY, KELLEY, METZE,
PAPE, SCHIFFNER
NONE
Also present were: Executive Director Watenpaugh, Assistant Executive
Director Best, Legal Counsel Leibold, Administrative Services Director
Boone, Community Development Director Brady, Community Services
Director Sapp, Fire Chief Seabert, Police Chief Walsh, City Engineer
O'Donnell, City Treasurer Ferro and Deputy Clerk of the Board Bryning.
PUBLIC COMMENTS - AGENDIZED ITEMS
None requested.
CONSENT CALENDAR
MOVED BY KELLEY, SECONDED BY BRINLEY AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR AS
PRESENTED.
The following Minutes were approved:
a. City Council/Redevelopment Agency Study Session - September 12,
2000.
b. Regular Redevelopment Agency Meeting - September 12, 2000.
2. Ratified Warrant List for September 14, 2000.
Received and ordered filed the Investment Report for July, 2000.
4. Approved the proposed Agency Conflict of Interest Code and adopted
Resolution No. 2000-7 as follows:
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RESOLUTION NO. 2000-7
A RESOLUTION OF THE REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY OF THE
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE ADOPTING THE STANDARD
CONFLICT OF INTEREST CODE.
5. Approved appropriation of funds for approximately $200,000 for operations
and maintenance of the Diamond Stadium for the current fiscal year;
approved appropriation of $300,000 in general fund reserves for
advancement to the Agency for the purpose of making up any shortfall in
Agency funds needed to operate and maintain Diamond Stadium; approved
the Diamond Stadium Operations and Maintenance Reimbursement
Agreement; autharized the Mayor and RDA Chairperson to execute the
Agreement in their respective behalf's; and authorized the City
ManagerBxecutive Director to take such other and further action as may be
required to implement the proposes of the Agreement.
6. Approved the proposed Affordable Housing Development Agreement with
Employment Systems, Inc. and adopted Resolution No. 2000-8 as follows:
RESOLUTION NO. 2000-8
A RESOLUTION OF THE REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY OF
THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE, APPROVING AN
AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT
AND MAKING CERTAIN FINDINGS RELATED THERETO.
PUBLIC COMMENTS - NON-AGENDIZED ITEMS
Councilman Schiffner read and emphasized the City Council Policy as follows:
"A speaker shall limit their remarks to three (3) minutes. All remarks
shall .be addressed to the Council as a body, and not to any member or
the audience. No speaker shall manipulate the speaker or microphone."
Chris Hyland, 15191 Wavecrest Drive, stated that on September 11`i' she received
all the letters, documents and audit from Sacramento on the RDA. She stated that
she read the cover letter that she received with the documents and stated that after
reading the material, she has decided to reproduce the tape with the Legal Counsel
opinion from the last Redevelopment Agency Meeting. She stated that everything
the City of Lake Elsinore Redevelopment Agency does is a farce. She indicated
that she has driven through Lake Elsinore taking pictures and found there are
broken down and boarded-up houses; houses in disrepair; crap all over yards; and
big piles of junk in yards. She further stated that on Dolly Street there are a
number of homes that need repair. She further indicated that she will pursue this
topic and threatened to go to Sacramento to follow-up on Legal Counsel Leibold's
comments.
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Dan iJhlry, 150 E. Lakeshore Drive, questioned the method of appropriation for
Item No. 5 and stated that it was his understanding that the Redevelopment
Agency had no control over General Fund money. Legal Counsel Leibold
explained that the Agency action was to appropriate Agency funds in the amount
of $200,000 and agree to the proposed Cooperation and Loan Agreement, which
would characterize the City's action taken earlier in the Agenda which would
appropriate $300,000 from the General Fund as a loan and obligate the Agency to
repay those funds from future available revenues. She concurred that it was
confusing on the Agenda Summary, however the Council/Agency report made it
clear that the only action that the Agency was taking was appropriation of Agency
funds and approval of the Cooperation and Loan Agreement, which addresses
reimbursement. She thanked Mr. Uhlry for raising the issue for clarification.
George Alongi, 649 Mill Street, noted the announcement that Chairman Schiffner
made at the start of Public Comments and stated that both the Council/Agency and
public should play by the same rules. He commented that if the Board does not
pick on an individual then the individual should not have to come back and relate
what was said about him. He answered Boardmember Pape's comment regarding
his vote for the contract on the Stadium and read the RDA Minutes to support his
position regarding his vote. He stated that he had worked very hard to keep the
parks open, and a he felt that a vote for the contract on the Stadium would keep
the parks open. He stated that he did not agree with the contract, however felt that
it would facilitate the parks and therefore voted yes on the item. He stated that the
newspapers asked him if had agreed with the contract, and he stated that he did not
agree with it, however he did not say that he did not vote for it. He addressed
Boardmember Brinley's comment to Boardmember Pape regarding lying. He
commented that as the Mayor of the City, that action was uncalled for. He stated
that if she were going to call someone a liar, then she should have that person
present so they could defend themselves.
DIRECTOR COMMENTS
No Comments.
LEGAL COUNSEL COMMENTS
Legal Counsel Leibold commented on the following:
1. Stated that under the. terms of the Stadium lease which is Item No. 5, the
question was raised as to why the $500,000 was coming from a combination
of City and Agency funds and why it wasn't their responsibility. She
explained that it was the tenant's responsibility and noted that under the
terms of the lease they have a contractual obligation to operate and maintain
the Stadium as a first class facility far the initial term of 15 years, which
runs through the year 2013. She further explained that the Agency entering
into the contract, obviously did not anticipate that the tenant would
repudiate and abandon their obligations under the lease. She noted that at
this point the Agency and the City, to the extent that the Agency has
insufficient funds available, and in an effort to mitigate damages, and to
keep the facility open has taken this action. She indicated that this did not
PAGE FOUR - RDA MINUTES - SEPTEMBER 26, 2000
mean that this action released the tenant from their obligations; but it did
not mean that the Agency had waived or released the tenant from their
obligations; it also didn't mean that the Agency was not evaluating other
actions.
2. Legal Counsel Leibold noted that two items had been advertised for Closed
Session discussion, but indicated that only item B would be discussed. ~ She
announced Item B as listed below.
BOARDMEMBER COMMENTS
No comments.
THE REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MEETING WAS RECESSED AT 7:47
P.M.
THE REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MEETING RECONVENED AT 8:30
P.M.
CLOSED SESSION
A. CONFERENCE WITH LEGAL COUNSEL--EXISTING LITIGATION
(Subdivision (a) of section 54956.9) California Bank & Trust v. City of
Lake Elsinore et al (Riverside Co. Superior Court Case #344190)
B. CONFERENCE WITH LEGAL COUNSEL - ANTICIPATED
LITIGATION - Initiation of litigation pursuant to subdivision ( c) of
Section 54956.9 (1 case)
THE REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MEETING WAS ADJOURNED TO
CLOSED SESSION AT 8:30 P.M. FOR DISCUSSION OF ITEM B AS
LISTED ABOVE.
THE REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MEETING RECONVENED AT 9:15
P.M. WITH NO REPORTABLE ACTION.
ADJOURNMENT
MOVED BY PAPE, SECONDED BY BRINLEY AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO ADJOURN THE REGULAR REDEVELOPMENT
AGENCY MEETING AT 9:15 P.M.
2
ROBE T . SCHI , HAIRMAN
REDEVELOPMENT ENCY
PAGE FIVE - RDA MINUTES - SEPTEMBER 26, 2000
ATTEST:
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AD A L. BRY ING, DE TY C RK
OF TIIE BOARD
It~DEVELOPMENT AGENCY
MINUTES
REGULAR REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MEETING
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
183 NORTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA
TUESDAY, OCTOBER 10, 2000
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CALL TO ORDER
Chairman Schiffner called the Redevelopment Agency Meeting to order at 735
p.m.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: BOARDMEMBERS: BRINLEY, KELLEY, METZE,
PAPE, SCHIFFNER
ABSENT: BOARDMEMBERS: NONE
Also present were: Assistant Executive D'arector Best, Legal Counsel Leibold,
Administrative Services Director Boone, Community Development Director
Brady, Community Services Director Sapp, Fire Chief Seabert, Police Chief
Walsh, City Treasurer Ferro and Clerk of the Board Kasad.
PUBLIC COMMENTS - AGENDIZED ITEMS
None requested.
CONSENT CALENDAR
MOVED BY METZE, SECONDED BY KELLEY AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR AS
PRESENTED.
The following Minutes were approved:
a. City Council/Redevelopment Agency Study Session - September 26,
2000.(F:134.3)
b. Regular Redevelopment Agency Meeting - September 26, 2000.
PiJBLIC COMMENTS - NON-AGENDIZED ITEMS
Chris Hyland, 15191 Wavecrest Drive, commented on the number of
Administrative Violations that have been issued and stated that she felt that certain
people were being singled out. She presented pictures of various areas of the City,
which have not been addressed, and yet the same people are being issued citations
time after time. She stated that people have been telling her that they are moving
because in the last five years nothing has been cleaned up in the City. She asked
that Council address this issue.
PAGE TWO - R.D.A. MINUTES - OCTOBER 10, 2000
George Alongi, 649 Mill Street, stated his appreciation for the work that was done
on the streets in the "Avenues" and stated that the reason he was addressing the
Redevelopment Agency was because it was in a Redevelopment Agency area. He
read a letter that was sent to the residents notifying them of the upcoming
improvements that were to be done on the "Avenues". He stated that Nelson
Paving started before 7:00 a.m.; slurry sealed on both sides of the street, blocking
residents in; removed the barricades before the seal was dry, causing cars to get tar
on their paint; and then paved both sides of the street at the same time, again
blocking residents in their driveways. He stated that Nelson Paving acted in an
irresponsible manner and that the Redevelopment Agency and City should
monitor the contractors to be sure that they do not inconvenience the residents
unnecessarily. He stressed that the residents in the "Avenues" do appreciate what
was done.
DIRECTOR COMMENTS
No Comments.
LEGAL COUNSEL COMMENTS
Legal Counsel Leibold announced the Closed Session Item A, but noted that Item
B would not be discussed.
BOARDMEMBER COMMENTS
No comments.
THE REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MEETING WAS RECESSED AT 7:40
P.M.
THE REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MEETING RECONVENED AT 8:30
P.M.
CLOSED SESSION
A. CONFERENCE WITH LEGAL COUNSEL--EXISTING LITIGATION
(Subdivision (a) of section 54956.9) California Bank & Trust v. City of
Lake Elsinore et al (Riverside Co. Superior Court Case #344190)
B. CONFERENCE WITH LEGAL COUNSEL - ANTICIPATED
LITIGATION - Initiation of litigation pursuant to subdivision ( c) of
Section 54956.9 (1 case)
THE REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MEETING WAS ADJOURNED TO
CLOSED SESSION AT 8:30 P.M. FOR DISCUSSION OF ITEM A AS
LISTED ABOVE.
THE REDEVEI,OPMENT AGENCY MEETING RECONVENED AT 9:34
P.M. WITH NO REPORTABLE ACTION.
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ADJOURNMENT
MOVED BY PAPE, SECONDED BY BRINLEY AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO ADJOURN THE REGULAR REDEVELOPMENT
AGENCY MEETING AT 9:34 P.M.
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ROBERT L. SCHIFF E C AIRMAN
REDEVELOPMENT AG
ATTEST:
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OF THE BOARD
REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
MINUTES
REGULAR REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MEETING
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
183 NORTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA
TUESDAY, OCTOBER 24, 2000
........................................................................~
CALL TO ORDER
The Regular Redevelopment Agency Meeting was called to order by
Chairman Schiffner at 8:40 p.m.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT:
BOARDMEMBERS:
BRINLEY, KELLEY,
METZE, PAPE,
SCHIFFNER
ABSENT:
BOARDIVYEMBERS:
NONE
Also present were: Assistant Executive Director Best, Legal Counsel
Leibold, Administrative Services Director Boone, Community
Development Director Brady, Community Services Director Sapp, Fire
Chief Seabert, Police Chief Walsh, City Treasurer Ferro and Clerk of
the Board Kasad.
PUBLIC COMMENTS AGENDIZED ITEMS
None requested
CONSENT CALENDAR
MOVED BY BRINLEY, SECONDED BY KELLEY AND MOVED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR
AS PRESENTED.
The following minutes were approved:
a. Regular Redevelopment Agency Meeting - October 24,
2000. (F:1343)
2. Concurred with Council Action to approve Summerhill
(Canyon Creek) Specific Plan No. 85-1, Amendment No. 1,
General Plan Amendment No. 00-01 (Land Use), General Plan
Amendment No. 00-02 (Circulation), and Zone Change No. 00-
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Concurred with Council Action to approve Tentative Parcel
Map No. 29235 "Abaccy Holding Corp. (F:110.2)
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BUSINESS ITEM
4. License Agreement For the Lake Elsinore Diamond Stadium.
(F:134.7)
Legal Counsel Leibold eaplained the agreement between the Agency
and Mandalay Sports Entertainment, LLC for the Lake Elsinore
Diamond Stadium. She noted that due to some additional issues, there
was no proposed agreement prepared. She requested that the
Boardmembers not take action on this item at that time; and allow
staff to place it on the agenda in the near future when there is a
recommendation consideration. She further explained the background
of the lease agreement and the abandonment of the Lease.
MOVED BY BRINLEY, SECONDED BY METZE AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO TAKE NO ACTION AND DIRECTED
STAFF TO PLACE THIS ITEM ON THE CALENDAR AT THE
APPROPRIATE TIME.
PUBLIC COMMENTS - NON AGENDIZED ITEMS
None.
DIRECTOR COMMENTS
None.
LEGAL COUNSEL COMMENTS
Legal Counsel Leibold announced the closed session items as listed below.
BOARDMEMBER COMMENTS
None.
THE REGULAR REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY RECESSED AT 8:45
P.M.
THE REGULAR REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY RECONVENED AT
9:19 P.M.
CLOSED SESSION
A. CONFERENCE WITH LEGAL COUNSEL-EXISTING
LITIGATION (Subdivision (a) of section 54956.9) California Bank &
Trust v. City of Lake Elsinore et al (Riverside Co. Superior Court
Case #344190)
B. CONFERENCE WITH LEGAL COUNSEL-ANTICIPATED
LITIGATION Initiation of litigation pursuant to subdivision O of
Section 54965.9: (1 potential case)
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THE REGULAR REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY RECESSED AT 9:19
P.M.
THE REGULAR REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY RECONVENED AT
10:10 P.M. WITH NO ACTION TAKEN.
ADJOiJRNED
THE REGULAR REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY ADJOURNED AT
10:11 P.M.
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ROBERT L. SCffiFFNER, CHAIRMAN
REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
ATTEST:
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VICKI KASAD, CMC, CLERK OF THE BOARD
REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
MINUTES
CITY COUNCIL/REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
STUDY SESSION
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
130 SOUTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA
TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 14, 2000
.........................................................................
CALL TO ORDER
The City Council Study Session was called to order by Mayor Brinley at
4:00 p.m.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: KELLEY,
SCHIFFNER,
BRINLEY
ABSENT: COUNCILMEMBER5: METZE, PAPE
Also present were: City Manager Watenpaugh, Assistant City Manager
Best, City Attorney Leibold, Community Development Director Brady,
Information/Communications Manager Dennis, and Deputy City Clerk
Bryning.
DISCUSSION
Aeenda Review. (F:44.1)
Presentations
Councilwoman Kelley noted that the person who was going to present
the program for Safety Kids would not be present due to a personal
accident. Mayor Brinley stated that she would continue this item to a
future date.
Mayor Brinley stated that she would ha~e an additional presentation
for Anthony Chairez who had become an Eagle Scout.
Consent Calendar
Councilwoman Kelley addressed Item No. 4, and questioned the
location of Claim No. 2000-17. She asked if it were filed against the
State as well. City Aftorney Leibold indicated that she did not know,
however the Claims Administrator had recommended denial.
Coun~ilman Schiffner questioned the location since Rose Street was
not located within the City Limits.
1Vlayor Brinley stated that she would be pulling Item No. 5 regarding
the Grant Deed and Statement of Disclosure to the Center for Natural
PAGE TWO - STUDY SESSION - NOVEMBER 14, 2000
Lands Management for more information. Councilman Schiffner
stated that he was going to ask to haee this item pulled as well. He
stated that as far as he was concerned, he felt the Fish and Wildlife
was dictatorial and he wanted the public to know that.
City Manager Watenpaugh presented an overview of the item and
eaplained that Granite Homes was required to dedicate open space.
He noted that some time ago Council had agreed to provide the 29-
acre open space to Fish and Wildlife to assist Friedman Homes in
their additional requirements for development as well as shed
responsibility of the cost of maintenance for the open space. He
stated that through this action the City would assure that the area
remained open space.
Councilman Schiffner asked if the 29 acres was a requirement of Fish
and Wildlife. City Manager Watenpaugh stated that it was not a
requirement, however it was an opportunity to relieve the City
taapayer of the responsibility for the maintenance of open space and
still have it remain as open space view corridors and vistas available.
Councilman Schiffner stated that it was mutually beneficial to all
parties. City Manager Watenpaugh concurred.
City Manager Watenpaugh asked that the City Clerk's Office provide
a copy of the Police Report to the City Council for Claim No. 2000-14
(Milstead), which was addressed by Item No. 4.
Mayor Brinley asked the City Manager to eaplain Item No. 7, Rental
Fees for the Diamond Stadium. City Manager Watenpaugh explained
that because of the default of Lakeside Sports Entertainment, the City
must re-implement the fees for the rental of the Diamond Stadium and
Diamond Club. Councilwoman Kelley asked if the fees were the
same as Lakeside's fees. City Manager Watenpaugh stated that it was
a combination of what Lakeside charged and what the City previously
charged. Councilman Schiffner requested clarification that under the
present agreement the only rights the baseball team had to the
Stadium were related to baseball. City Manager Watenpaugh advised
that the team had the rights for several other additional uses outside of
the baseball season, however they must provide the dates and the
activities would all be baseball related. Councilman Schiffner
clarified that the City could do concerts and other activities. City
Manager Watenpaugh stated that the City was currently negotiating
those issues. City Attorney Leibold stated that the City was currently
in negotiations with Mandalay for baseball purposes, however
historically Mandalay gets revenues from baseball events and the
Redevelopment Agency gets revenues from non-baseball events. She
noted that currently there was no binding agreement between
Mandalay and the Agency. Councilman Schiffner requested
confirmation that L,akeside had officially abandoned the Stadium.
City Attorney Zeibold confirmed and explained that on numerous
PAGE THREE - S'I'UDY SESSION - NOVEMBER 14, 2000
occasions Lakeside Entertainment had notified the City that they
could no longer meet their financial obligations under the Stadium
Lease; and the City had repeatedly confirmed that they were
abandoning their obligations and were repudiating the lease in breech
of their obligations. She indicated that as of November 15, they sent a
letter officially abandoning the premises; however they have had no
presence at the Stadium since the end of October and since the end of
October the City took over and began taking an inventory. She stated
that no matter which date is considered, they are no longer officially
involved at a11. She explained that as the owner and landlord of the
facility the City had the obligation to mitigate damages and protect
assets. She noted that Lakeside had been informed of all the measures
the City had to take to mitigate damages. Councilman Schiffner asked
if Lakeside's surrender of the Stadium had any affect on Mandalay.
City Attorney Leibold stated that it did, and noted that Lakeside
repudiated their agreement with Mandalay, just as they did with the
City. She noted that Lakeside had a number of contracts they had
reneged on. Councilman Schiffner asked if that included any
agreements for other monies or concessionaires. City Attorney
Leibold stated that the Concession Agreement was a tri-party
agreement between the concessionaire, Lakeside and Mandalay and
the City was in the process of negotiations. Mayor Brinley asked if
Mandalay owed any money to Lakeside. City Attorney Leibold stated
that she did not know; however the City was not responsible for any
of those types of debts. City Manager Watenpaugh stated that the
City had already paid Lakeside's phone bill and some of the utilities.
He indicated that those monies would be incorporated in any future
action taken against Lakeside. Mayor Brinley asked what the City
had spent to date. City Manager Watenpaugh stated that to date the
only money the City had paid was the phone bill, however the City
would ha~e to pay the water bill as well, since the water was shut off.
He stated that the City was informed that there was a bill of $43,000
for electricity, and the City had contacted the Southern California
Edison and told them that the City would pay the bill to keep from
loosing electricity. Councilwoman Kelley asked if the City had plans
to look for a promoter for the Stadium far activities other than
baseball. City Manager Watenpaugh stated that the City was
currently negotiating the agreement to establish where the City stood
and determine the actual cost to get the Stadium back in shape. He
stated that the City had one group approach the City and requested
four dates to market and promote events. He indicated that they were
very aware of the situation; they tried to approach the previous leased
company; they would not talk to them; they run major events in
Southwest Riverside County and Orange County; and they are very
interested in operating some events at the Stadium. City Attorney
Leibold stated that once a relationship had been defined, and when the
City was comfortable with the estimate of the maintenance and
operating costs; potential revenue and expenses; then a definition
could be finalized.
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Mayor Brinley addressed Item No. 6, regarding Special Counsel for
Stadium matters. City Attorney Leibold noted that Mr. Pistone was a
well-qualified litigator and she had worked with him and knew him
personally. She stated that he comes highly recommended and is
ea~tremely competent. She further noted that he specializes in
Commercial and Real Estate litigation. Councilman Schiffner asked if
this action was to authorize a fee schedule. City Attorney Leibold
clarified that Council was not autharizing Mr. Pistone to do any work
at this time. Councilman Schiffner requested clarification that he
would return with a proposal and anything in excess of $5,000, which
can be approved by the City Manager, would come back to the City
Council for consideration. City Attorney Leibold confirmed. She
explained that he had no autharity to move forward with any action
until directed by the Agency Board. She noted that what was
presented was Mr. Pistone's fee schedule and staff would like to have
him on retainer, so that when there is a plan, he would be authorized
to move forward. Mayor Brinley noted that what he had provided was
a guideline for fees. Councilman Schiffner clarified that the City
would be putting him on retainer, but at a zero dollar retainer. City
Attorney Leibold concurred.
Business Items
Mayor Brinley asked if there were any questions regarding Item No.
33, the Amendment to the Graffiti Ordinance. Councilwoman Kelley
asked which stores in town did not have spray paint behind bars. City
Manager Watenpaugh stated that the Do-It Center and various small
stores in the area did not. Councilman Schiffner stated that he was not
totally satisfied that the action would be a great deterrent, however it
would be a first step. Mayor Brinley stated that at least it tightens
down and cleans up some verbiage in the Ordinance. She thanked
staff for a good job. City Manager Watenpaugh noted that various
cities were compared and the proposed ordinance was a combination
of all the other cities to maintain consistency. Councilwoman Kelley
questioned the markers. Community Development Director Brady
stated that the sizes vary and noted that '/a inch is a fairly common size
used for graffiti. Councilwoman Kelley stated that'/4 inch marker is a
poster marker. She stated that she was concerned that the stores
would have to pull the Crayola Markers and place them in an enclosed
area. Community Development Directar Brady clarified the size and
stated that it would not affect the Crayola Markers for children.
Councilman Schiffner clarified that the list in the Ordinance was what
was commonly prohibited in other cities. He stated that he felt that
graffiti was one of the worst non-violent crimes against the general
public. He further stated that he would be in favor of public flogging
if it were permissible. City Manager Watenpaugh noted that the City
was hit heavily last weekend. Councilwoman Kelley requested
confirmation that the parents could be charged for the cost of removal
if the person were caught. City Manager Watenpaugh confirmed.
PAGE FIVE - STUDY SESSION -NOVEMBER 14, 2000
Councilman Schiffner clarified that the Police Department feels that
they could move forward catching the people. City Attorney Leibold
stated that there were four persons being prosecuted at the present
time. Councilman Schiffner stated that it might not take many being
prosecuted to deter further damage. Councilwoman Kelley noted the
reward listed in the Ordinance. Councilman Schiffner asked if the
clean up on private property, with permission, was going to be a
problem. City Manager Watenpaugh stated that the City must have
permission from the property owner to remove the graffiti. He
explained that the City could remove the graffiti and be reimbursed or
remove the graffiti and not be reimbursed with the victims rights
signed over to the City to allow the City to prosecute for
reimbursement. He explained that the Council would have to decide
in the future how they wish to handle it.
City Manager Watenpaugh addressed Item No. 34, Design Review for
Industrial Project No. I 00-01. He stated that there was a correction
on the square footage of the building on the chart on Page 11. He
noted that the total office space should read 13,725 square feet and the
parking requirement would not be changed; however the applicant
would be providing 40 parking spaces rather than the 29 spaces
required. Councilman Schiffner asked about the required handicap
spaces. Community Development Director Brady stated that out of 29
required spaces only two were required to be handicapped. Mayor
Brinley addressed the outdoor storage area and asked what would be
stored. Community Development Director Brady stated that they did
not have a tenant for the building and it was unknown at this time
what would be stored, however it would be in conformance with the
outdoor storage requirements. Mayor Brinley suggested that outdoor
storage would not be an issue until the applicant applied for a
Conditional Use Permit. Community Development Director Brady
stated that a CUP had already been approved by the Planning
Commission, however the tenant would have to comply. Councilman
Schiffner questioned the wall that was to be built on this property.
Community Development Director Brady noted that as long as the
property develops in two years the wall would not be required. Mayor
Brinley questioned the metal awnings. Community Development
Director Brady noted that the awnings on the other building were the
same and added consistency. Mayor Brinley asked about a Condition
of Approval that would address the maintenance and condition of the
awnings. Community Development Director Brady stated that the
City had a Maintenance Ordinance that required the applicant to
maintain the building at a certain level. Councilman Schiffner noted
that the metal awning would hold up better than the paint on the `
building.
Ytedevelopment Agency
Chairman Schiffner noted that the items on the Redevelopment
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Agency were standard and discussion was not necessary.
City Manager Watenpaugh proposed the following Study Sessions:
City Council Study Session - Raceway - November 30, 2000 at
10:00 a.m. at the Cultural Center.
Special Council Meeting - CDBG Projects and Requirements
and Discussion regarding Lake/Commercial Fees - December
7, 2000, 10:00 a.m. at City Hall.
Study Session regarding Sign Ordinance proposed after the first
of the year.
ADJOURNMENT
THE CITY COUNCIL/REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY AGENDA
REVIEW STUDY SESSION WAS ~TOURNED AT 4:43 P.M.
PAMELA BRII~i'~.EY,'MAYOR
CI~ OF I,,AKE ELSINORE (
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ROBERT L. SCHIFFN , CHAIRMAN
REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
Respectfully Submitted,
Adria L. Bryning, Deputy City Clerk
City of Lake Elsinore
ATTEST:
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VICKI KASAD, CMC, CITY CLERK/
HUMAN RESQURCES DIRECTOR
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
MINUTES
REGULAR REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MEETING
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
183 NORTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA
TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 14, 2000
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CALL TO ORDER
The Regular Redevelopment Agency Meeting was called to order by Chairman
Schiffner at 8:02 p.m.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: BOARDMEMBERS: BRINLEY, KELLEY, METZE,
PAPE, SCHIFFNER
ABSENT: BOARDMEMBERS: NONE
Also present were: Executive Director Watenpaugh, Legal Counsel Leibold,
Administrative Services Director Boone, Community Development Director
Brady, Community Services Director Sapp, Police Chief Walsh, Information/
Communications Manager Dennis and Clerk of the Board Kasad.
PUBLIC COMMENTS - AGENDIZED ITEMS
None Requested.
CONSENT CALENDAR
MOVED BY BRINLEY, SECONDED BY PAPE AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR AS
PRESENTED.
The following Minutes were approved:
(F:1343)
a. Regular Redevelopment Agency Meeting - October 24, 2000.
2. Received and ordered filed the following Investment Reports:
(F:12.5)
a. August, 2000
b. September, 2000
Concurred with City Council Action to Approve a Fee Agreement with
Special Counsel Thomas Pistone regarding Stadium Matters. (F:134.7)
4. Concurred with City Council Action to Approve Design Review for
Industrial Project No. I 00-01, for a 17,325 square foot building with outdoor
storage and associated improvements, located on Chaney Street (APN 377-
160-015), subject to Findings, E~ibits and Conditions of Approval. (F:86.2)
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PUBLIC COMMENTS - NON-AGENDIZED ITEMS
Chris Hyland, 15181 Wa~ecrest Dr., criticized the proposed Hydro-Electric Project
and indicated that the C.L.E.A.N. Committee would be reactivated to pursue this
issue.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR COMMENTS
No Comments.
LEGAL COUNSEL COMMENTS
Legal Counsel Leibold announced the Closed Session as listed on the Agenda.
BOARDMEMBER COMMENTS
No Comments.
THE REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MEETING WAS RECESSED AT 8:05
P.M.
THE REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MEETING RECONVENED AT 8:50
P.M.
CLOSED SESSION
A. CONFERENCE WITH LEGAL COUNSEL - ANTICIPATED
LITIGATION Initiation of litigation pursuant to subdivision ( c) of Section
54956.9: (1 potential case).
THE REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MEETING WAS ADJOURNED TO
CLOSED SESSION AT 8:51 P.M.
THE REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MEETING RECONVENED AT 10:36
P.M. WITH NO REPORTABLE ACTION.
ADJOURNMENT
MOVED BY BRINLEY, SECONDED BY METZE AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO ADJOURN THE REGULAR REDEVELOPMENT
AGENCY MEETING AT 10:37 P.M.
ATTEST:
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CHAIRMAN
VICKI KASAD, CMC; Ci,ERK OF THE BOARD
REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
REDEVEI,OPMENT AGENCY
MINUTES
CITY COUNCIL/REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY STLTDY SESSION
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
130 SOUTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA
TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 28, 2000
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CALL TO ORDER
The City Council/Redevelopment Agency Study Session was called to order by
Mayor Brinley at 4:03 p.m.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Mayor Brinley.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: KELLEY, SCHIFFNER,
BRINLEY
ABSENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: METZE, PAPE
Also present were: Assistant City Manager Best, City Attorney Leibold,
Community Development Director Brady, Information/Communications
Manager Dennis and City CIerWHuman Resources Director Kasad.
A~enda Review~I':44.1~
Mayor Brinley noted the absence of City Manager Watenpaugh at this meeting; but
advised that he would be present for the Council Meeting this evening.
Presentations
Mayor Brinley questioned the Reader's Choice Award. Assistant City Manager Best
indicated that the Mayor would be accepting the award from representatives of the
Press Enterprise.
Assistant City Manager Best indicated that the Business of the Quarter would be My
Buddies Pizza, and Mr. & Mrs. Richardson would be present to accept.
Councilwoman Kelley noted that My Buddies delivered pizzas for three years at
Grad Night festivities for Temescal Canyon High School; and worked Grad Night
after the restaurant closed in the evening. She stressed that they have contributed
heavily for many years.
Mayor Brinley inquired if Information/Communications Manager Dennis would be
providing the Website Demo. Staff confirmed.
Consent Calendar
City Attorney Leibold indicated that she would be pulling item no. 3 for discussion
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after the business items.
Mayor Brinley noted the need to clarify that item no. 8 would consider changing the
street name to Canyon Hills Parkway, rather than Canyon Hills Road.
PUBLIC HEARING
Mayor Brinley suggested that item no. 21 was a housekeeping item. Assistant City
Manager Best concurred, but explained that the grant had already been received, so
this was the procedural requirement of a public hearing. She also noted the list of
programs included in the agenda item. Councilman Schiffner suggested that there
might be some interest in hearing about the item at the meeting.
BUSINESS dTEMS
Councilwoman Kelley noted the level of interest in the appointments to the Enron
Committee requested by item no. 31, and inquired if there would be a need for
alternates or mare appointments. Assistant City Manager Best indicated that she
knew they were not looking for elected officials, but Kathy Russeth would be in the
audience to respond to the need for alternates.
Mayor Brinley questioned the ability to pick a representative from outside the City,
within the County area. City Attorney Leibold indicated that there were no legal
grounds or statutes to regulate this committee or require residency. Councilman
Schiffner suggested this might ease some of the concerns. Mayor Brinley noted that
her choice was from the county area and had been involved in the community for a
long time. City Attorney Leibold noted that Enron had requested a diversified
group of community representatives. Councilman Schiffner noted that he would
have also had several options from the County area. City Attorney Leibold
questioned the balance of the appointments. Councilman Schiffner indicated that
issue had not been resolved as Supervisor Buster was not planning to appoinY
anyone to the Committee. Mayor Brinley noted that it was a City/County issue and
she believed the Committee should be diversified, but wanted to be sure if there was
any legal restriction. Councilman Schiffner noted that it was not necessarily a
bigger issue for the City than the County.
Councilwoman Kelley noted that she would ask about alternates; and indicated that
her appointment would be a City resident, however an alternate would be a County
resident.
City Attorney Leibold advised with regard to the item 32 the report on the Graffiti
Ordinance was not ready now, but analysis was underway. She suggested
modification on Page 3 of the ordinance, moving the last sentence out of paragraph
c. Mayor Brinley indicated that questions might arise on this item at the meeting.
City Attorney Leibold indicated that she would check on the status of the review,
prior to the meeting. Councilwoman Kelley noted that she had several addresses for
graffiti clean-up. Mayar Brinley noted that the Police Department caught a tagger
and suggested that the Police Chief provide an update at the meeting.
PAGE THREE - STUDY SESSION MINUTES - NOVEMBER 28, 2000
Councilwoman Kelley questioned the project location on item no. 34. Community
Development Director Brady clarified the location. Councilman Schiffner noted
that there had been some controversy regarding use of the easement.
Councilwoman Kelley expressed surprised at the inclusion of 101 parking spaces.
Mr. Brady noted that staff desires to obtain more parking than is needed in the case
of churches. Councilwoman Kelley stressed that this sounded like a large parking
area for a residential area.
Community Development Director Brady clarified that churches are allowed in
residential area with a Conditional Use Permit; and noted that this one is located on
a major thoroughfare, so the intent is to get all of the parking off the street, by
putting it on-site. Councilman Schiffner noted that the parking would not be visible
from the street. Council questioned the inclusion of play equipment on-site. Mr.
Brady indicated that there were turf areas, but no play equipment was shown. He
further indicated that the existing house would be an office.
Councilwoman Kelley noted the future intent to take over additional parking and
questioned the notification provided to the properiy owners in the area. Mr. Brady
indicated that the standard notification had been provided and only one property
owner came to the Planning Commission meeting, and the Commission tried to
mitigate her concerns by providing a block wall. Councilman Schiffner questioned
the neighbor's level of concern with the proj ect. Mr. Brady clarified the discussion.
Mayor Brinley questioned how soon they planned to add the school. Community
Development Director Brady indicated that was a future plan, which would need to
come back for further consideration, as there was no formal application for that use
at this time.
Councilman Schiffner inquired how the primary ingress and egress issues would be
controlled. Mr. Brady indicated that the regulation would be through signage to
encourage use of the primary driveways. Mayor Brinley inquired if it was possible
to condition the use of the driveways. Mr. Brady indicated that it became a matter
of enforcement. Councilman Schiffner questioned the ability to close off one
driveway.
Councilwoman Kelley questioned the reason for the barn design. Community
Development Director Brady indicated that the area has a number of larger lots and
some horses in the area; an presented a sample of the colors and materials to be
utilized. He suggested that the project would improve the appearance of the e~sting
property.
Councilman Schiffner inquired if there would be hedges along the driveway. Mr.
Brady indicated that he was not sure of the materials to be used, but plans would be
submitted later in the process.
City Clerk Kasad advised that the Resolution for item 35 should be 2000-51 rather
than 2000-50. Councilwoman Kelley questioned the legality of a two year Council
term, rather than a four year term, and how the terms would roll over. Councilman
PAGE FOUR - STLTDY SESSION MINUTES - NOVEMBER 28, 2000
Schiffner indicated that this was an issue that was not established. Councilwoman
Kelley further questioned how such a change would impact the current elected
terms. City Attorney Leibold addressed the laws for establishment of electoral
districts and staggering of terms; but indicated that those issues are not specified in
the Initiative.
Mayar Brinley noted that there would probably be several questions at the Council
meeting, but if they are asked at this point the City Attorney could be prepared to
answer them.
Councilman Schiffner noted the two options. City Attorney Leibold clarified that
there are three options associated with an Initiative, but under the Government Code
there is a requirement that the people vote on the establishment of districts, so the
Council could not.just enact the Initiative.
Mayor Brinley inquired if the proponents would ha~e an attorney present at the
Council meeting. City Attorney Leibold indicated that she was not certain.
Councilwoman Kelley questioned the two choices. City Attorney Leibold clarified
that the election could be set for November, 2001, or a report could be ordered to
respond to any questions or clarify issues; and noted the type of issues which could
be identified by the Council to be included in the report. She explained the
potential for consideration of fiscal and legal issues, noting that because of the
brevity, there was not the full te~ of an ordinance, as would typically be presented.
She indicated that there were several questions relating to legality, form and
substance, however she had not yet done a substantial analysis. She noted that
Council could utilize her office or independent counsel to review the matter and
provide the report. She noted the experience of the independent counsel she would
be proposing at the Council meeting, noting that the Council could ha~e anyone do
this report, but cautioned that the report must be prepared and presented back to the
Council within 30 days. She stressed the need to act quickly.
Councilman Schiffner inquired if the report is requested and comes back with
problems, whether it would still go to the ballot. City Attorney Leibold noted the
benefit of third party counsel, and eaplained that in addition to an independent
analysis, the report would include recommendations on how to proceed. She
indicated that in the event the report comes back and says there are some
ambiguities, but the statutes can fill in the holes and the issues can be resolved, the
recommendation might be to set the election. However, if the findings are that the
Initiative is not specific enough for clear direction or enforcement, then the matter
could be set for election and those issues discussed in the materials, or decline to set
the election. She stressed that she was not sure what the report would suggest.
Councilwoman Kelley inquired what would happen if the Council set the matter for
the election. City Attorney I,eibold indicated that if the Council chose to set the
matter for election, between now and then, there would be a series of deadlines and
material to be prepared and the lcinds of issues presented would come out in those
materials, but it would not be the same as a thorough analysis.
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Councilman Schiffner inquired if the report would discuss what would happen if the
matter is set for election, as is. City Attorney Leibold indicated that would be fair
information to ask for. Councilman Schiffner asked if it was possible to put the
matter on the ballot at a later date. City Attorney Leibold clarified that if a report is
requested, it must be presented back to the Council within 30 days; and at that time
there would be a recommendation and request to adopt the Resolution calling the
election.
Councilwoman Kelley inquired if the Council had the complete te~ of the Initiative.
City Attorney Leibold confirmed.
Mayor Brinley questioned the City Attorney°s preference with who would prepare
the report. City Attorney Leibold indicated it was up to the Council, however for
appearance sake an independent counsel, with no interest in the City might be
better.
Councilman Schiffner commented that the independent counsel would be a
specialist in that area of law; and noted that the proponents might express concern
with the cost of legal fees, but they were in full agreement with the cost of a special
election. City Attorney Leibold stressed the volume of case law and statutes to be
reviewed in a relatively short period of time.
Redevelopment Agency
RDA Chairman Schiffner noted that most of the Redevelopment Agency items were
concurrent or Minutes, aside from the Closed Session. City Attorney Leibold
confirmed that there would be one Agency Closed Session item for this evening.
Mayor Brinley inquired if staff had any further clarifications. Hearing no additional
comments the Study Session was Adjourned at 4:41 p.m.
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AMELA BRIN EY, MAYOR
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
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R BERT L. S~IFF CHAIRMAN
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REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
ATTEST:
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VICKI KASAD, CMC, CITY CLERK/
CLERK OF THE BOARD
MINUTES
REGULAR REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MEETING
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
183 NORTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA
TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 28, 2000
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CALL TO ORDER
The Regular Redevelopment Agency Meeting was called to order by Chairman
Schiffner at 8:40 p.m.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT; BOARDMEMBERS: BRINLEY, KELLEY, METZE,
PAPE, SCHIFFNER
ABSENT: BOARDMEMBERS: NONE
Also present were: Executive Director Watenpaugh, Assistant Executive Director
Best, Legal Counsel Leibold, Administrative Services Director Boone,
Community Development Director Brady, Community Services Director Sapp,
Police Chief Walsh, Information/Communications Manager Dennis, City
Treasurer Ferro, and Clerk of Board Kasad.
PUBLIC COMMENTS - AGENDIZED ITEMS
None requested.
CONSENT CALENDAR
MOVED BY PAPE, SECONDED BY KELLEY AND CARRIED BY
UNANYMOUS VOTE TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR AS
PRESENTED.
The following Minutes were approved:
a. City Council/Redevelopment Agency Meeting - November 14, 2000.
b. Regular Redevelopment Agency Meeting - November 14, 2000.
(F:1343)
2. Ratified Warrant List for November 15, 2000. (F:12.3)
3. Concurred with Council Action to Approve the Design Review for
Miscellaneous Project No. 00-02 far New Song Calvary Chapel. (F:601)
PUBLIC COMMENTS - NON-AGENDIZED ITEMS
Chris Hyland, 15191 Wavecrest, commented on Legal Counsel's comments and
addressed the Initiative petition. She noted comments by Mr. Hansen of Loyola
Law school and suggested that the City's attorney could not change the law. She
PAGE TWO - REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MINUTES - NOV. 28, 2000
indicated that the matter will be on the ballot and cautioned the attorney not to
scare the people of Lake Elsinare.
No Comments.
LEGAL COUNSEL COMMENTS
Legal Counsel Leibold commented on the following:
1) Clarified that the Initiative was not a Redevelopment Agency matter,
but clarified that she was not saying it wasn't legal, just that some
clarification was needed.
2) Announced the Closed Session Item as listed on the Agenda.
3) Announced the court decision this date regarding the lawsuit filed by
California Bank and Trust, which involved and alleged guarantee in
connection with Camelot Properties. She explained that her office
filed a Demurrer and explained that action. She advised that this date
the Motion for Demurrer had been granted with leave to amend the
complaint. She clarified that this meant that they had not valid
lawsuit against the City at this time, but the bank could amend their
suit in the nea~t 30 days. She stressed the significance of this ruling,
but anticipated the need for further Demurrers with regard to the
underlying substantive issues.
BOARDMEMBER COMMENTS
Chairman Schiffner addressed the comments by Mrs. Hyland regarding the Loyola
Law School professor's comments and suggested that sometimes it was necessary
to be concerned about how questions are asked, when considering the responses
provided.
THE REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MEETING WAS RECESSED AT 8:45
P.M.
~'HE REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MEETING RECONVENED AT 9:15
P.M.
CLOSED SESSION
A. CONFERENCE WITH LEGAL COUNSEL - ANTICIPATED
LITIGATION Initiation of litigation pursuant to subdivision ( c) of Section
54956.9: (1 potential case).
THE REDE~EI.OPMENT AGENCY MEETING WAS ADJOIJRNED TO
CLOSED SESSION AT 9:16 P.Me
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THE REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MEETING RECONVENED AT 9:58
P.M., WITH NO REPORTABLE ACTION.
ADJOURNMENT
MOVED BY BRINLEY, SECONDED BY KELLEY AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO ADJOURN THE REGULAR REDEVELOPMENT
AGENCY MEETING AT 9:59 P.M.
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R BER L. SCHIFFNER, C AI N
REDEVELOPMENT AGEN Y
TEST:
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CKI KASAD, CMC, CLERK OF THE BOARD
REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
MINUTES
SPECIAL CITY COUNCIL/REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MEETING
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
130 SOUTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA
TUESDAY, DECEMBER 5, 2000
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CALL TO ORDER
The Special City Council/Redevelopment Agency Meeting was called to order by
Mayor Brinley at 2:05 p.m.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: COUNCILMEMBERS/ KELLEY, PAPE,
BOARDMEMBERS: SCHIFFNER, BRINLEY
ABSENT: COUNCILMEMBERS/ METZE
BOARDMEMBERS: (Councilman Metze arrived at
2:22 p.m.)
Also present were: City Manager/Executive Director Watenpaugh and City
C1erWClerk of the Board Kasad.
CLOSED SESSION
A. PUBLIC EMPLOYEE PERFORMANCE EVALUATION
Title: City Mana,ger/Executive Director (F:46.1)
THE SPECIAL CITY COUNCIL/REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
MEETING WAS ADJOURNED TO CLOSED SESSION AT 2:06 P.M.
THE SPECIAL CITY COUNCIL/REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
MEETING RECONVENED AT 3:22 P.M., WITH NO REPORTABLE
ACTION.
ADJOURNMENT
THE SPECIAL CITY COUNCIL~~VELOPMENT AGENCY
MEETING WAS ADJOURNED 3:23 .M. „
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ROBERT L. SCHIFF
REDEVELOPMENT
CITY CLERK/
CLERK OF THE BOARD
2, CHAIRMAN
ENCY
MINUTES
SPECIAL CITY COUNCIL/REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MEETING
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
130 SOUTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA
TUESDAY, DECEMBER 5, 2000
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CALL TO ORDER
The Special City Council/Redevelopment Agency Meeting was called to order by
Mayor Brinley at 3:25 p.m.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: COUNCILMEMBERS/
BOARDMEMBERS:
ABSENT: COUNCILMEMBERS/
BOARDMEMBERS:
Also present were: City Attorney/Legal Counsel Leibold and City C1erWClerk
of the Board Kasad.
CLOSED SESSION
A. PUBLIC EMPLOYEE PERFORMANCE EVALUATION
Title: City Attornev/Le~al Counsel (F:40.1)
THE SPECIAL CITY COUNCIL/REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
MEETING WAS ADJOiIRNED TO CLOSED SESSION AT 3:26 P.Ma
THE SPECIAL CITY COUNCIL/REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
MEETING RECONVENED AT 4:50 P.M., WITH NO REPORTABLE
ACTION.
KELLEY, PAPE,
SCHIFFNER, BRINLEY
NONE
ADJOURNMENT
THE SPECIAL CITY COUNCI:
MEETING WAS ADJOURNED
4:51 ~.M.
AGENCY
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ROBERT L. SCHIFFN , CHAIRMAN
REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
CIT~' CI,ERK/
CLERK OF THE BOARI)
MINUTES
CITY COUNCIL/REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
STUDY SESSION
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
130 SOUTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA
TUESDAY, DECEMBER 12, 2000
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CALL TO ORDER
Mayor Brinley called the City Council Study Session to Order at 4:00 p.m.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: KELLEY,
SCHIFFNER,
BRINLEY
ABSENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: METZE, PAPE
Also present were: City Manager Watenpaugh, Assistant City Manager
Best, City Attorney Leibold, Community Development Director Brady,
Information/Communications Manager Dennis and Deputy City Clerk
Bryning.
DISCUSSION
Aeenda Review.
Invocation
Mayor Brinley noted that Bishop Brad Fife of the Church of Latter
Day Saints of Jesus Christ would present the invocation.
Consent Calendar
Councilwoman Kelley questioned Item No. 4, which addresses a
Claim Against the City. She commented that she did not understand
why the Claim was filed against the City since the incident did not
occur within City Limits. City Attorney Leibold explained that
people file claims and lawsuits whether the incident occurred within
the City or not.
Councilman Schiffner stated that he would be pulling Item No. 6,
regarding the Award of Contract for Tuscany Hills Landscaping and
Lighting Project for public information only.
City Manager Watenpaugh stated that Councilman Pape would pull
Item No. 8, regarding the Waiver of Fees for the Lake Elsinore Valley
Chamber of Commerce.
PAGE TWO - STUDY SESSION - DECEMBER 12, 2000
Public Hearing
City Manager Watenpaugh noted that it had been requested to pull
Item No. 21 from the Agenda and now the applicant wishes it to move
forward. City Manager Watenpaugh indicated that the applicant
wishes to have Cottonwood Hills Road changed to Canyon Hills
Road.
Business Items
Councilwoman Kelley addressed Item No. 31, regarding the Auto
Citation Program and questioned the number of citations that will be
issued since the report shows that it would increase 35°/a initially.
City Manager Watenpaugh eaplained that one of the problems that the
City had experienced was the Code Enforcement citing after the street
sweeper is gone because it takes so long for the Code Enforcement to
write all the information on the ticket. He further explained that some
of the cars were on the street and some were not when the sweeper
went by. He noted that it was the intent of Council to cite those cars
that were left in the street when the sweeper goes through and the
proposed method will facilitate that action. City Attorney Leibold
stated that she was suggesting two minor additions as follows:
Section 1.6 Contested Citations, at the end of the section add "in
accordance with applicable law of the Agency, which is defined as
City of Lake Elsinore in the State of California; and Section 6.6 -
Bonding and Other Fees, should read "Any fees for Performance or
Fidelity Bonds, or Errors and Omissions Insurance coverage required
by the Agency and....". She noted that if the City wishes to require
additional insurance, the clarification is necessary. She clarified the
Recommendation in the Staff Report and asked that Council strike
item #3.
Councilwoman Kelley addressed the Item No. 32, addressing Multi
Species Habitat Conservation Plan (MSHCP), and indicated her
frustration with the MSHCP. She stated that they were supposed to
bring more information back to Council and they have failed to do so.
City Manager Watenpaugh noted that Councilman Schiffner as
Council representative, himself, Community Development Director
Brady recently attended a Meeting with MSHCP. He indicated that a
number of issues were addressed and the membership selected
Alternate 1, subject to answering questions from the membership. He
explained that Altemate 1 represents 8,500 to 10,003 acres of land
from the City of Lake Elsinore and represents 27% to 29% of the total
City contributions for land; Beaumont's requirement would be 8,600
to 10,005 acres; Temecual's requirement would be 500 to 600 acres.
I~e further noted that the City of Murrieta does not participate,
however they have been levied with the same amount of acreage as
Lake Elsinore. He detailed the questions that the membership has
regarding the Mitigation plan. He explained that the
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purpose of bringing the item forward was because the City of Hemet
has adopted an interim Mitigation Fee and Temecula will be adopting
an interim Mitigation Fee at their ne~ meeting.
Councilwoman Kelley stated that she understood that a complete
study was never done for Habitat Conservation and what has occurred
was as each independent developer comes on line, the EIR's are
examined and then the County identifies the endangered species on
their project and then designates the amount of land that the developer
must contribute.
Councilman Schiffner indicated that the basic idea was to develop a
plan that Fish and Wildlife would accept however DUDAC from the
County of Riverside created a broad band to address the issue.
Mayor Brinley noted that the County was told in October that the City
was not happy with the situation, since they have not returned with
information that Council asked for. Councilman Schiffner stated that
they do not have the information that the City requested. He noted
that at the Habitat Meeting, what the County was looking for was a
consensus of which alternate to move forward with. He indicated that
at the MSHCP Meeting he made it clear it did not make any
difference which alternate was selected because all the choices were
devastating to the City of Lake Elsinore. He suggested that they
might as well move ahead with Alternate l, however under no
conditions was the City acknowledging that they would accept or
become party to the end result. He noted that no one at the meeting
stated their consent to the plan.
There was general discussion in regard to how Fish and Wildlife
could set the requirements.
City Attorney Leibold stated that the Habitat Land Acquisition
amount was unrealistic and felt the amount was too low.
City Manager Watenpaugh stated that the reason Fish and Wildlife
like the City of Lake Elsinore is because of the large Specific Plans.
He indicated that it allows Fish and Wildlife to negotiate with just one
person at a time to dedicate land.
Mayor Brinley asked how the Habitat Plan would affect the Murdock
area. City Manager Watenpaugh stated he was not sure, however if
the MSHCP were considered as it was presented, it would wipe out
Ramsgate, Alberhill, Liberty and Northpeak. He indicated that the
existing Development Agreements entitle 15,065 units in their
developments, which would result in a loss to the City of sales and
property tax in the amount of $14.5 million dollars annually, plus $45
million dollars in one-time developer fees. Mayor Brinley asked what
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made Lake Elsinore the target. City Manager Watenpaugh explained
that the City of Lake Elsinore was the last to develop and noted that
amount of open space that the City has. He further explained that
other cities, such as the City of Orange and Los Angeles, did not set
aside open space for endangered species. The City of Lake Elsinore
was being placed in the position of providing the areas of Orange and
Los Angeles, with land that they did not dedicate.
Councilman Schiffner stated that Western Riverside County is being
asked to add to the new homes the cost of saving for national
posterity, certain species. He noted that it was a Federal program and
the species happen to be in our County, so they want us to pay for it.
City Manager Watenpaugh stated that only new residents would pay
for the program.
City Attorney Leibold stated that there was no mechanism to collect
on existing homes.
City Manager Watenpaugh stated that all staff was asking Council to
do was to encourage Riverside County to evaluate a more equitable
program; evaluate the economic impacts on the cities; and present a
more finite program. He noted that there are already homes in some
of the 10,000 acres.
Mayor Brinley asked if the meetings were open to the public and if
they were did Ramsgate, Alberhill and Eastlake receive notification.
City Manager Watenpaugh stated that the meetings were open to the
public and that the developers know about the meetings, however they
were not in attendance.
City Manager Watenpaugh stated that the City has concerns and needs
answers'to the questions that were expressed earlier. He indicated that
the City may not participate and it might be more beneficial to the
City not to participate, but rather negotiate for ourselves.
Councilman Schiffner noted that at time of development there is a real
possibility that there would be no endangered species at all. He
presented an overview of how a decision is made to declare a habitat.
There was general discussion regarding the program. Council
expressed real concern. Mayor Brinley suggested that the City wark
with the City of Murrieta to address our concerns.
Mayor Brinley addressed Item No. 33, Southwest Riverside County
Transportation Uniform Mitigation Fee Program and asked how the
fee was figured. City Manager Watenpaugh stated that it was through
the TUMF Fee. He explained that Riverside County had developed a
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plan for infrastructure for Southwest Riverside County. He detailed
the projects that would be addressed. He stated that the request is for
$10,000 to assist in payment of an environmental document. He
stated that staff recommends the City continue to participate in the
Technical Committee and Policy Committee and complete the City's
street improvement fee study prior to the adoption of a regional
TUMF. City Manager Watenpaugh stated that staff needs direction
from Council. Councilwoman Kelley stated that the Council has been
informed of the City's concern regarding the amount of the TUMF
fee; the priority of the projects. She noted that the City of Murrieta
feels that they could collect their own TiJMF fee and accomplish
quite a bit more than the County could. Mayor Brinley asked if the
City was considering that action. Councilwoman Kelley stated that
was why the City was doing a study
There was general discussion regarding the cost of projects done by
the County versus the cost if the City did the same projects.
Community Development Director Brady detailed the various projects
that need to be done and noted the amount that the County has
suggested for each house in TiJMP fees.
Mayar Brinley asked if the City, after the study, found that it would
be more feasible to do our own program would the City be able to
apply for the same grants. City Manager Watenpaugh explained the
grant procedure and stated that the City would be eligible to apply for
grants.
Councilwoman Kelley noted it was her understanding that for cities
that did not join a program, there would be a slow down on
consideration of their grant applications. City Manager Watenpaugh
stated that Mr. Haley indicated that there would probably be an
incentive for cities that participated in a regional fee to get their
projects funded through RCTC State Funds. Mayor Brinley asked
what the incentive would be. City Manager Watenpaugh stated that it
had not been determined. He explained that staff was requesting
Council to allow them to continue to sit at the table, and when the
City has put our fee in place, then an evaluation can be made to
determine if Lake Elsinore needs or wants to participate.
Mayor Brinley addressed Item No. 34, regarding CETAP's request for
additional funding. City Manager Watenpaugh explained that this
was a request far additional funding for studies that proved to be mare
expensive than anticipated. He noted that they are asking each one of
the cities to play $1 per capita spread over a two-year period.
Mayor Brinley asked how far CETAP was into the program. City
Manager Watenpaugh stated that CETAP had originally completed
what had been previously funded, expanded on the plan and now
PAGE SIX - STUDY SESSION - DEC.12, 2000
needed to fund that part of the study. Mayor Brinley asked what
corridors were they funding for study. City Manager Watenpaugh
indicated that it was two east/west corridors; a north/south corridor;
and interior corridors, which connect Hemet, San Jacinto, Lake
Elsinore, Perris and Corona.
Councilwoman Kelley asked if Mayor Pro Tem Pape would be giving
a report on this item. City Manager Watenpaugh stated that since
Mayor Pro Tem Pape was on the committee, he was sure that there
would be more information available at the meeting.
There was general discussion regarding the corridors. Councilman
Schiffner stated that at the Study Session that was held regarding this
subject, the public seemed to be in favor of this project.
Councilwoman Kelley stated that she would like more information
regarding phasing.
Mayor Brinley asked how many members were on the RCTC Board.
City Manager Watenpaugh stated that there were 54 members
representing each city in the County of Riverside.
Mayor Brinley addressed Item No. 35, regarding the Rights-of-way
Use Agreement between the City of Lake Elsinare and Leve13
Communications, LLC. City Manager Watenpaugh noted that Level
3 Communications had purchased the 12 conduits previously installed
by GST Telecom California and under the terms of the Rights-of-way
Agreement, Leve13 is obligated to pay all encroachment permit fees
and charges; return the public rights-of-way to their original
condition; and provide a bond. Councilman Schiffner noted the GST
did a good job of closing the trench when they completed laying the
conduit. City Attorney Leibold noted that GST is going through a
bankruptcy and Time Warner Communication has acquired all of GST
assets. She noted that there would be Leve13 representatives at the
Council Meeting.
Mayor Brinley addressed Item No. 36, regarding the Ordinance for
Towing Services. City Manager Watenpaugh noted that the Towing
Ordinance was developed because there were operators from outside
the area that wished to tow for the City in rotation through the
Sheriff's Department. He explained that the City and Sheriff's
Department needed some type of Ordinance to address regulations.
He further noted that the Franchise Agreement would be used for the
renewal of any existing franchises and any new facilities. He detailed
ihe requirements of the franchise.
Councilmember Schiffner stated that at one time he had a car towed
and noted the difficulty he had in getting his car back.
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Mayor Brinley addressed Item No. 37, regarding Neighborhood
Enhancement Team Program. City Manager Watenpaugh presented
an overview of the program and noted that he had instructed the
Neighborhood Enforcement team to concentrate on one neighborhood
at a time for consistency. He explained that it was impossible to cover
the entire City, therefore it was decided to select areas where the
police gets numerous complaints; provide notice to the residents;
advertise in the newspaper in advance; provide enough time for the
residents to clean up their property; do a first sweep to enforce the
proposed area; and then a second sweep to be sure that the properties
are in compliance. Councilwoman Kelley asked if the program was
patterned after another city's program. City Manager Watenpaugh
stated that it was not, however other cities have similar programs.
Councilwoman Kelley asked who was going to head the program up.
City Manager Watenpaugh stated that it was a joint venture between
Code Enforcement, Community Development and the Sheriffls
Department. He detailed the different people who would be working
on the program. He noted that the program is open to the entire City
and not just the Multi-Family units.
There was general discussion regarding the presentation of item No.
38 and it was decided that Council would adjourn to the
Redevelopment Agency and reconvene to hear item No. 38.
Councilman Schiffner noted that the Redevelopment Agency would
have to adjourn to the Public Finance Authority. City Manager asked
if the Redevelopment Agency, Public Finance Autharity and City
Council could hear the appointment of officers at one time. City
Attorney Leibold stated that the three entities could be concurrently in
session at the same time. She explained that when the Chairman of
the Redevelopment Agency came to the item of appointment they
would stay open, then the City Council would reconvene and the
Public Finance Authority would open their meeting to make the
decisions for appointments concurrently. Mayor Brinley noted that
she would conduct the nominations and the new officers would
assume their seats at the next meeting. City Attorney Leibold asked
when the new appointments would take seat. Mayor Brinley stated
that they would take seat at the City Council Meeting of December
26. She explained that there would be a reception following the
meeting for the new Mayor.
Redevelopment Agency
City Manager presented a brief overview of the Redevelopment
Agency Agenda. Chairman Schiffner stated that he had no questions
regarding the Agenda.
PAGE EIGHT.- STUDY SESSION - DEC. 12, 2000
Public Comments
Dan iJhlry, representing Town and Country Towing, stated that there
was suppose to be some amendments to the Ordinance for Towing.
City Manager Watenpaugh indicated that the Chief of Police had
implemented the amendment into the Ordinance and it was being
presented. Mayor Brinley stated that Chief Walsh would be at the
City Council Meeting and could clarify the amendments. Mr. iJhlry
questioned the implementation of the Franchise Agreement. City
Manager Watenpaugh stated that they should check with the Chief to
make sure that the amendments to the Franchise Agreement were
included and asked if he could define his concerns. Mr. Uhlry stated
that on Page 11 of the Franchise Agreement, Section 13.0, should
include verbiage at the end of the paragraph to read "Should any
additional franchises be granted, the City will show a need for the
additional franchise." Mr. Uhlry stated that it would help to control
the number of Tow Companies in the City and would assure the City's
Police Department the ability to have more companies should the
existing Tow Companies be unable to keep up. City Attorney Leibold
stated that what was being asked for was an exclusive franchise and
what is being presented is a not an exclusive franchise.
Merton Fragoso, owner of LEAR Auto Body & Towing, stated that if
the Police Department and the City were receiving adequate service at
this time, then why would the City wish to change the system. He
stated that it could create a saturation of the area by tow companies.
There was general discussion regarding the conditions and
requirements for another Tow Company to enter into a franchise
agreement.
Mayor Brinley asked if the verbiage were added if it could be
considered discriminatory. City Attorney Leibold stated that a City
could grant an exclusive franchise, however typically it comes with a
higher franchise fee. Mayor Brinley indicated that the Tow
Company's concems could be addressed at the Council Meeting.
Mr. Fragoso noted the problems with storage of School Buses, Motor
Homes and other large vehicles, which should be included in the
Franchise Agreement.
ADJOURNMENT
THE CITY COUNCIL/REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY AGENDA
REVIEW STUDY SESSION WAS ADJOURNED AT 5:15 P.M.
PAMELA BRINLEY, MAYOR
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
PAGE NINE - STUDY SESSION - DEC. 12, 2000
ROBERT L. SCHIFFNER, CHAIRMAN
REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
ATTEST:
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ADRIA L. BRYNING,~~~~~~
DEPUTY CITY CLERK
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
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contract, noting that it reduces City costs. He supported efforts to continue
to work to bring other events into the Stadium; but stressed that this
agreement will relieve some of the burden on the General Fund.
Boardmember Brinley concurred with the other Boardmembers and asked if
the City retained the option to do its own events. Legal Counsel Leibold
confirmed. She congratulated Legal Counsel Leibold on her efforts; and
expressed kudos to the other staff inembers involved in this process of
solving the breach of contract.
Chairman Schiffner congratulated Legal Counsel Leibold and City staff and
the Storm staff on their efforts for this agreement. He concurred that it was
beneficial to both parties.
MOVED BY BRINLEY, SECONDED BY PAPE AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO APPROVE THE BUSINESS POINTS AS SET
FORTH, DIRECT AGENCY COUNSEL TO PREPARE A LICENSE
AGREEMENT AND A STADIUM FIELD AND MAINTENANCE
AGREEMENT CONSISTENT WITH THE APPROVED BUSINESS
POINTS AND AUTHORIZE THE AGENCY CHAIRMAN TO EXECUTE
THE AGREEMENTS IN THE FINAL FORM APPROVED BY THE
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR AND AGENCY COUNSEL.
City Attorney Leibold thanked the Board for their comments and
commended the efforts of Executive Director Watenpaugh, Administrative
Services Director Boone and Community Services Director Sapp on their
efforts to reach this agreement.
6. Citv CouncilBoard/Autharity Reorganizations. (F:134.1)
City Attorney Leibold explained that the City Council/Redevelopment
Agency and Public Finance Authority Meetings were all open concurrently
for this item.
Mayor Brinley opened nominations for Mayor.
MOVED BY KELLEY, SECONDED BY BRINLEY TO NOMINATE
COUNCILMAN SCHIFFNER FOR MAYOR.
Hearing no additional nominations for Mayor, nominations were declared
closed.
COUNCILMAN SCHIFFNER WAS SELECTED AS MAYOR, BY THE
FOLY.OWING ROLL CALI, VOTE:
COUNCILMAN METZE VOTED FOR COUNCILMAN SCHIFFNER.
MAYOR PRO TEM PAPE VOTED FOR COUNCILMAN
PAGE FOUR-REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY - DECEMBER 12, 2000
SCHIFFNER.
COUNCILWOMAN KELLEY VOTED FOR COUNCILMAN
SCHIFFNER.
COUNCILMAN SCHIFFNER VOTED FOR COUNCILMAN
SCHIFFNER.
MAYOR BRINLEY VOTED FOR COUNCILMAN SCHIFFNER.
Nominations were opened for Mayor Pro Tem.
MOVED BY SCHIFFNER, SECONDED BY KELLEY TO NOMINATE
COUNCILWOMAN BRINLEY FOR MAYOR PRO TEM.
Hearing no additional nominations for Mayor Pro Tem, nominations were
declared closed.
COUNCII,WOMAN BRINLEY WAS SELECTED AS MAYOR PRO TEM,
BY THE FOLLOWING ROLL CALL VOTE:
COUNCILMAN METZE VOTED FOR COUNCILWOMAN
BRINLEY.
MAYOR PRO TEM PAPE VOTED FOR COUNCILWOMAN
BRINLEY.
COUNCILWOMAN KELLEY VOTED FOR COUNCILWOMAN
BRINLEY.
MAYOR SCHIFFNER VOTED FOR COUNCILWOMAN BRINLEY.
COUNCILWOMAN BRINLEY VOTED FOR COUNCILWOMAN
BRINLEY.
Nominations were opened for Redevelopment Agency Chair.
MOVED BY BRINLEY, SECONDED BY SCHIFFNER TO NOMINATE
BOARDMEMBER KELLEY FOR REDEVELOPM~NT AGENCY
CHAIRWOMAN.
Hearing no additional nominations for Redevelopment Agency Chair,
nominations were declared closed.
BOARDMEMBER KELLEY WAS SELECTED AS THE
REIDEVELOPMEN~' AGENCX CHAIRWOMAN, BY THE FOLLOWING
I20LI, CALI, VOTE:
~OARIDMEMBER BRINLEY VOTED FOR BOARDMEMBER
MINUTES
REGULAR REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MEETING
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
183 NORTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA
TUESDAY, DECEMBER 12, 2000
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CALL TO ORDER
The Regular Redevelopment Agency Meeting was called to order by Chairxnan
Schiffner at 9:00 p.m.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: BOARDMEMBERS: BRINLEY, KELLEY, METZE,
PAPE, SCHIFFNER
ABSENT: BOARDMEMBERS: NONE
Also present were: Executive Director Watenpaugh, Assistant Executive Director
Best, Legal Counsel Leibold, Administrative Services Director Boone,
Community Development Director Brady, Community Services Director Sapp,
Fire Chief Seabert, Police Chief Walsh, City Treasurer Ferro and Clerk of the
Board Kasad.
PUBLIC COMMENTS - AGENDIZED ITEMS
None Requested.
CONSENT CALENDAR
MOVED BY BRINLEY, SECONDED BY KELLEY AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR AS
PRESENTED.
The following Minutes were approved:
(F:1343)
a. Redevelopment Agency Study Session - November 28, 2000.
b. Regular Redevelopment Agency Meeting - November 28, 2000.
2. Received and ordered filed the Investment Report for October, 2000.
(F:12.5)
3. Received and ordered filed the Fiscal Year 1999-00 Annual Audit &
Financial Report. (F:24.2)
4. Approved the proposed Modifications to the Affordable Housing
Development Agreement with Century Builders, LLC; found that the
revised Agreement complies with and is consistent in all respects with the
findings set forth in Resolution No. 2000-8; authorized the Chairman of the
Agency to execute the Agreement with the approved modifications and in
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such final form as approved by the Agency's Legal Counsel; and directed
the Executive Director to implement the Agreement and prepare or cause to
be prepared the necessary documents to implement the Agreement and the
development of the project. (F:134.7)
BUSINESS ITEM
5. License Agreement with the Storm, LLC Re arding Use Of Diamond
Stadium and Related A~xeement With the Storm. LLC for Maintenance.
(F:134.7)(X:134.10)
Executive Director Watenpaugh noted that staff had been meeting with the
Storm representatives to negotiate an agreement to partner on the Stadium.
He indicated that he believed that the relationship could work very well and
both sides were willing to work together.
Legal Counsel Leibold provided a brief background on the stadium lease,
and the repudiation and abandonment of the agreement. She noted that the
discussions have been focusing on the ongoing use, ongoing maintenance
and operations, and the rights and obligations of both parties. She detailed
the proposed payments and business points as summarized in the staff
report. She indicated that the initial term would be for seven years, with the
option for a five-year extension. She noted that the Storm had an ongoing
relationship with Lakeside to pay $175,000 annually, but that amount had
been significantly increased through the negotiations. She also noted that
there would be some opportunities with regard to naming rights and
sponsorships. She further noted that an agreement had been reached with
regard to electrical costs if they exceed certain limits. She indicated that
this would be a positive step for continued operation of the Stadium
Dave Oster, General Manager, Lake Elsinore Stortn, commented on the
former lease agreement and indicated that he has seen a lot of baseball
facilities, none as nice as the Diamond. He indicated that he was excited
about the proposed agreement in spite of the negative outcome of the
Lakeside Agreement. He indicated that this was a positive solution for both
parties.
Boardmember Metze indicated that this was a good first step which takes a
tremendous burden away from the breach of contract. He indicated that he
did not believe the City was in the Stadium business, but if staff could get it
resolved it would be fine. He noted that while the contract was on the
agenda for tonight it had been negotiated based on closed session
discussions.
Vice Chair Kelley indicated that she was happy with the business points of
the agreement. She commended Legal Counsel Leibold on the final
contract.
Boardmember Pape congratulated Legal Counsel Leibold on the final
PAGE FIVE - REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY - DECEMBER 12, 2000
KELLEY.
BOARDMEMBER KELLEY VOTED FOR BOARDMEMBER
KELLEY.
BOARDMEMBER METZE VOTED FOR BOARDMEMBER
KELLEY.
BOARDMEMBER PAPE VOTED FOR BOARDMEMBER KELLEY.
CHAIRMAN SCHIFFNER VOTED FOR BOARDMEMBER
KELLEY.
Nominations were opened for Redevelopment Agency Vice Chair.
MOVED BY SCHIFFNER, SECONDED BY BRINLEY TO NOMINATE
BOARDMEMBER PAPE FOR REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY VICE
CHAIRMAN.
Hearing no additional nominations for Vice Chairman, nominations were
declared closed.
BOARDMEMBER PAPE WAS SELECTED AS REDEVELOPMENT
AGENCY VICE CHAIRMAN, BY THE FOLLOWING ROLL CALL
VOTE:
BOARDMEMBER BRINLEY VOTED FOR BOARDMEMBER PAPE.
CHAIRWOMAN KELLEY VOTED FOR BOARDMEMBER PAPE.
BOARDMEMBER METZE VOTED FOR BOARDMEMBER PAPE.
BOARDMEMBER PAPE VOTED FOR BOARDMEMBER PAPE.
BOARDMEMBER SCHIFFNER VOTED FOR BOARDMEMBER
PAPE.
Nominations were opened for Public Finance Authority Chair.
MOVED BY BRINLEY, SECONDED BY SCHIFFNER TO NOMINATE
AUTIiOlti'TY MEMBER KELLEY AS PUBLIC FINANCE AUTHORITY
CHAIRWOM?.N.
Hearing no additional nominations for Public Finance Authority Chair,
nominations were declared closed.
AUTHORITY MEMBER KELLEY WAS SELECTED AS PUBLIC
FINANCE AUTHORITY CHAIRWOMAN, BY THE FOLLOWING ROLL
CALL VOTE:
PAGE SIX - REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY - DECEMBER 12, 2000
AUTHORITY MEMBER BRINLEY VOTED FOR AUTHORI'TY
MEMBER KELLEY.
AUTHORITY MEMBER KELLEY VOTED FOR AUTHORITY
MEMBER KELLEY.
AUTHORITY MEMBER METZE VOTED FOR AUTHORITY
MEMBER KELLEY.
AUTHORITY MEMBER PAPE VOTED FOR AUTHORITY
MEMBER KELLEY.
AUTHORITY MEMBER SCHIFFNER VOTED FOR AUTHORITY
MEMBER KELLEY.
Nominations were opened for Public Finance Authority Vice Chair.
MOVED BY SCHIFFNER, SECONDED BY KELLEY TO NOMINATE
A~JTHORITY MEMBER BRINLEY FOR PUBLIC FINANCE
AUTHORITY VICE CHAIRWOMAN.
Hearing no additional nominations far Public Finance Autharity Vice Chair,
nominations were declared closed.
Mayor Brinley restated the above appointments. City Attorney Leibold noted that
these appointments would take effect at this next regular meeting.
PUBLIC COMMENTS - NON-AGENDIZED ITEMS
None.
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR COMMENTS
Executive Director Watenpaugh commented on the following:
1) Clarified that the Lake Elsinore Recreation Authority Chairman and
Vice Chairman are automatically the Mayor and Mayor Pro Tem.
2) Thanked Paul Shaffer and Dave Oster for the cooperative meetings
with City Staff; and indicated that he was pleased to establish this
working relationship.
LEGAL COUNSEL COMMENTS
City Attorney Leibold announced the Closed Session discussion as listed on the
Agenda9 noting that there was only need for discussion on one potential case,
rather than the two listed.
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BOARDMEMBER COMMENTS
No comments.
THE REGULAR REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MEETING WAS
RECESSED AT 9:22 P.M.
THE REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MEETING RECONVENED AT 9:41
P.M.
CLOSED SESSION
A. CONFERENCE WITH LEGAL COUNSEL - ANTICIPATED
LITIGATION Initiation of litigation pursuant to subdivision ( c) of Section
54956.9: (2 potential cases).
THE REGULAR REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MEETING WAS
ADJOURNED TO CLOSED SESSION FOR DISCUS5ION OF ONE CASE
OF ANTICIPATE LITIGATION AT 9:42 P.M.
THE REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MEETING RECONVENED AT 9:50
P.M. WTTH NO REPORTABLE ACTION.
ADJOURNMENT
MOVED BY KELLEY, SECONDED BY METZE AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO ADJOURN THE REGULAR REDEVELOPMENT
AGENCY MEETING AT 9:51 P.M.
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R BERT L. SCHIFFNI
REDEVELOPMENT A~
OF THE BOARD
REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
iVIINUTES
JOINT CTTY COUNCIL/PLANNING COMMISSION STUDY SESSION
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
130 SOUTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA
WEDNESDAY, DECEMBER 20, 2000
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CALL TO ORDER
The Joint Study Session was called to order by Mayor Schiffner at 1:03 p.m.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Planning Commission Chairman Wilsey.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: COUNCILMEMBERS
KELLEY, PAPE,
SCHIFFNER
BARNES, NASH, POLK,
WILSEY
ABSENT: COUNCILMEMBERS
COMMISSIONERS:
BRINLEY, METZE
(Councilman Metze arrived at
1:15 p.m.)
MATTHIES
Also present were: City Manager Watenpaugh, Assistant City Manager Best,
Administrative Services Director Boone, Community Development Director
Brady, Community Services Director Sapp, Engineering Manager O'Donnell,
Information/Communications Manager Dennis and City Clerk/Human
Resources Director Kasad.
LSA Associates Roadwav Fee Studv - Railroad Canyon Road and I-15
Freeway Interchan,~e Improvement Alternative. (F:68.1)(X:82.2)
Mayor Schiffner thanked the Council for the honor of the Mayorship and
noted the team consistency of the City Council and Planning Commission.
He highlighted his goals for the coming year and outlined the format for this
meeting.
City Manager Watenpaugh presented a copy of a newspaper article as
background regarding Railroad Canyon Road; and clarified that this item is
not a fee study, but an effort to correct the traffic situation at Railroad Canyon
Road.
City Engineer O'Donnell introduced the Consultants and provided a brief
overview of the concerns. He noted that the Engineering Division had been
concerned with this intersection far quite some time. He advised that some
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federal funding had been received to address the Project Study Report, which
will be taken to Caltrans for consideration and review, followed by
presentation to the Federal Highway Administration. Councilman Pape
questioned the time line for this effort. Mr. O'Donnell indicated that staff
will narrow the choices to four alternatives and meet with Caltrans to select
one alternative within about six months. He stressed that the numbers
presented at this meeting were preliminary and there would be a lot more
work on the four alternatives to determine the best and most financially sound
alternatives.
Sal Chavez, SC Engineering, indicated that they were hired to do a Caltrans
Study, feasibility study and programming document. He further indicated
that the document will be prepared to present the final recommendations and
detailed the approval process. He detailed the e~sisting traffic volumes and
noted the traffic congestion during peak periods; and explained that the
problem is further compounded by the traffic signals at this intersection. He
explained the projected traffic volumes for 2025 and noted that the designs
are intended to accommodate a 25 year life span, which is why they would
more than double all legs of this intersection. He advised that they had
developed nine alternatives with two having sub-alternatives.
He detailed Alternative 2 which is a straightforward alternative to widen
Railroad Canyon from Casino to Grape to four lanes, and widen the ramps.
He indicated that this was the most traditional design with an approacimate
cost of $6.5 million. He advised that the design costs were based on the
RCTC project on Highway 74.
He explained Alternatives 3-A and 3-B which involve hook ramps and noted
that the one drawback of 3-A is that Caltrans typically does not support hook
ramps or options facing shopping centers. He noted that while 3-B would
not be preferred, Caltrans would support it over the 3-A configuration. He
detailed the costs associated with these alternatives. City Engineer O'Donnell
noted that this altemative eliminates a traffic light, and would widen the
section under the freeway to six lanes. Mr. Chavez explained that much of
the increased cost of this alternative would be due to the e~ensive widening
under the freeway bridge.
Mr. Chavez explained Alternative 4, which would be a partial cloverleaf
interchange. He stressed the movement advantage of this plan.
COUNCILMAN METZE ARRIVED AT 1:15 P.M.
Mr. Chavez further explained that this alternative would add a new ramp, off
of Casino Drive. He noted the cost for this alternative and the substantial
impacts it would have on the sunounding community.
Mr. Chavez detailed Alternative 5, which would be an Urban Interchange,
with one signal at the bridge, double left turns and a free right turn lane. He
indicated that the disadvantage of this alternative would be that for optimum
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success, all traffic volumes would need to be equal, and stressed that the
volumes are unbalanced. He noted that this would require Caltrans review by
and Urban Interchange Committee for rating on the ability of the project to
move forward. Commissioner Barnes requested clarification of the cost
factors on this alternative.
Mr. Chavez indicated that Alternative 6 was a brand new interchange at Olive
Street, which would be treated by Caltrans as a separate project; and require
another study of the interchange.
Mr. Chavez detailed Alternative 7-A and its options for new ramps, including
hook ramps to Casino Drive and Crrape Street. He detailed the costs, noting
that the biggest expense would be in the right-of-way acquisitions; and noted
the existing businesses which would be impacted.
He advised that Alternative 7-B would move the southbound exit ramp to a
new location; and there would be increased costs due to a bridge over the San
Jacinto River. Councilman Pape questioned how one would obtain access to
Tuscany Hills from this ramp. Mr. Chavez clarified the route; and noted
another option would be to split Diamond Drive at Franklin Street.
He explained Alternative 8, which includes hook ramps to Summerhill Drive
and detailed the costs. He indicated that this option would provide the overall
highest level of service, but carries a high cost for right-of-way acquisition
and additional improvements.
He highlighted Alternative 9, which includes hook ramps to Casino Drive and
Summerhill Drive, and detailed the costs.
He summarized the construction costs far each alternative and stressed that
the biggest variable was right-of-way acquisition costs. He also noted the
legal actions which might be necessary to obtain some of the right-of-way.
City Engineer O'Donnell noted that staff s selection of Alternative 2, which is
least expensive, easiest and quickest to build. He indicated that the level of
service from this option might fall short in eight or ten years; and needs to be
addressed to be sure it is done right. He further noted that staff would also
support options 3-A and 3-B, which would need to be addressed with
Caltrans for approvals, but noted the possible problems with these
alternatives. He indicated that staff would also support Alternative 7-C,
however the loop ramps would need to be discussed with Caltrans. He also
indicated that staff would support Altemative 9 because it deals with off-
ramps, which are needed. He stressed the potential stacking problems and
the anticipated heavy traffic movements.
Planning Commission Chairman Wilsey questioned the projections for the
traffic on and off the freeway during peak times and if all possible
alternatives were being considered. City Engineer O'Donnell clarified and
noted that the other advantage of staff s preferred alternatives was that they
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could be built in phases.
Councilman Pape questioned Alternative 9 and the businesses that would be
displaced, which would include the Gas Station, Tire Stores, etc. He stressed
the amount of future traffic at the intersection and the need to pursue the most
feasible option.
Chairman Wilsey questioned the impact of Summerhill Drive. Commissioner
Barnes questioned if the bridge on Summerhill would be widened. Mr.
O'Donnell confirmed and noted the future traffic lights planned for the area.
He stressed that there was no perfect plan for this intersection.
Commissioner Nash questioned the time frames involved in the phasing and
timing. City Manager Watenpaugh indicated that once identified and
approved the City portion of the funding will become a major issue. Mr.
Nash stressed that there was already a problem with the intersection at this
time. He indicated that he did not support taking property from existing
business owners. He suggested pursuing other alternatives to avoid
impacting existing businesses. He indicated that his first choice would be the
first plan for the lowest costs, with his next choices being the use of Olive
Street and Franklin Street. He stressed that he could not see displacing
businesses.
Commissioner Polk questioned why Alternative 4 was not selected, since it
adds up to the highest overall capacity. He also suggested that Alternative 2
would be the best Alternative as it was the most cost effective approach, but
questioned what to do in the interim over the ne~ few years until the project
could be completed. Mr. Chavez indicated that Alternative 4 was dropped
from the overall plan, as a loop exist ramp would not be warranted in the year
2025. Commissioner Polk questioned the loop on the northbound off-ramp.
Mr. Chavez indicated that 329 vehicles per hour would use that ramp. City
Engineer O'Donnell addressed Alternative 9 and noted that it would have a
ramp coming off on to Suminerhill, which would be redirecting the traffic and
loosing a signal. Commissioner Polk questioned the differences between
Alternatives 9 and 4. Mr. O'Donnell clarified. He also noted Alternative 2
would still haee problems with the signals being too close together.
Chairman Wilsey questioned Alternative 9, noting that it will appear to ha~e
the same stacking problems as Summerhill Drive, and create more signal
problems. He indicated that he liked the loop concept in Alternative 9,
because it would take a majority of the traffic off the main ramp.
City Engineer O'Donnell noted the potential of using Canyon Estates to
Franklin and reduce the overall traffia Councilman Metze questioned the use
of Franklin Street for public access; and suggested that it was not a user-
friendly road. Chairman Wilsey noted the diagram of Franklin Street as a
northbound off-ramp, but indicated that he liked the one with the on-ramp on
Grape Street further south.
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Commissioner Barnes addressed Alternative 2 and suggested it was the best
design of all since it has true cloverleaf design; however it requires the
acquisition of a lot of property. He expressed concern that it might take 5, 10
or 15 years to get it done. City Engineer O'Donnell clarified Alternative 2
and indicated basically everything stays the same.
Commissioner Barnes suggested that Item 3-B should be of assistance to
Caltrans; although it is a full cloverleaf, it is important to get rid of the traffic
signal.
Chairman Wilsey indicated that he likes the stacking in Alternative 3-A.
Councilman Pape questioned the timeline further. Mr. Chavez indicated that
much of the work could be concurrent with the Caltrans work, and most of
the information will be in the Project Study Report. He noted that much of
the timing would be driven by the environmental process, but most of the
alternatives could be processed by Caltrans pretty quickly. He stressed that it
would probably take at least a year in the environmental process, and if any
property challenge the City, it would be the City Council's responsibility to
look at the other possible alternatives to avoid impacting a business.
Chairman Wilsey questioned relocation costs and the process for determining
those costs.
Councilman Pape speculated that the overall process could range from six
months to two years, depending on the EIR, and questioned the sources of
revenue available to pursue relocation and acquisition. City Manager
Watenpaugh clarified the funding process. Councilman Pape inquired if
there was a comfort level that a six month project could be addressed by
representatives in Sacramento and Washington; and suggested that it might
be a good idea to pursue them to get the money set aside. He expressed
concern with the potential of having to wait a whole year for funding,
particularly in light of the benefit this project would provide.
Councilman Pape questioned Alternative 2 and what would be included
besides widening the ramps. City Engineer O'Donnell clarified.
Commissioner Barnes noted the potential options for widening the ramps.
Councilman Pape noted that on Saturday, it took six cycles to get through the
traffic signals; and indicated that he was not sure he had a preference among
the alternatives, but e~ressed concern with impacting e~sting businesses.
He inquired why Alternative 6 was not on the proposed final list. Mr. Chavez
indicated it was not included because Caltrans would consider it a separate
and individual project and require a separate Project Study Report.
Councilman Metze commented that it will all be moot without Caltrans
approval. Mr. Chavez indicated that Caltrans it sensitive to the needs, and
likes cloverleaf ramps and looped access ramps, but there is some difficulty
with the existing frontage roads. Councilman Metze suggested that
Alternative 2 would be a good quick fix.
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Councilwoman Kelley concurred with Commissioner Nash that she would
not want to impact e~sting businesses with the right-of-way issues. She
indicated that she would be interested in Alternative 2, in conjunction with
Alternative 6, as something feasible. She questioned the peak traffic levels
that could serve versus the current situation. Mr. Chavez indicated that
scenario had not been specifically evaluated, but during the peak periods, the
intersections operate at the lowest capacity. He detailed the changes as
proposed by each of the alternatives mentioned, and suggested that there
would be an immediate jump in the current level of service and the capacity
far traffic volumes. City Engineer O'Donnell indicated that it would be the
intent to obtain the highest level of service, as soon as possible.
Mayor Schiffner addressed the comparisons between the alternatives for the
year 2025; and suggested that many show a very poor level of service. He
indicated that he would be interested in seeing how much these alternatives
would improve the current situation. He indicated that he liked Altemative 5
because he has seen it to be successful, and noted a similar design at Interstate
10 and the airport; and suggested that it would take a minimum amount of
right-of-way acquisition. He also noted that it shows the same level of
service during afternoon traffia City Engineer O'Donnell indicated that
Alternative 5 was not chosen, because there was an attempt to choose options
which could be phased; and staff was not sure how 5 could be phased, and
there was a question of how to build it without shutting down the ramps and
the access road. He also noted the concern about taking existing business
properties, and commented that only a few of the options would produce an
excellent level of service.
City Manager Watenpaugh commented on some new hook ramps which were
completed in Oceanside. He suggested that it was important to look at the
immediate need as well as the future needs. He reiterated that the on- and
off-ramps at Olive have been identified and would be a viable alternative to
assist the situation. He noted that eventually Franlclin Street will be
connected to Pottery Street; and suggested that the individual projects would
all contribute to the ultimate solution.
Chris Hyland, 15191 Wa~ecrest, indicated that the City never ceases to amaze
her, but it would seem that before the shopping center was built, the traffic
should have been taken into consideration. She expressed concern with fast-
tracking projects and noted that she had gone to RCTC to view the maps and
expressed concern with the expense of palm trees and paving of Railroad
Canyon Road, and noted that it was not half as bad as the other streets in the
area. She also questioned why apartments were fast tracked for this meeting;
and expressed hopes that things would change soon.
Mayor Schiffner clarified that this meeting was called to address the severe
congestion from the existing homes and businesses.
Commissioner Nash indicated that he would stand by first comments and
stressed the need to alleviate the traffic problems as soon as possible. He
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suggested that Alternatives 2, 3-A or 3-B would be the best approaches in
conjunction with connecting Canyon Estates Drive to Main Street. He
indicated that the expansion under the freeway with better lighting and
signaling will help. He concurred that Olive Street should be considered as
part of the long term approach. He indicated that he would never consider
trying to mitigate right-of-way problems with businesses. Mayor Schiffner
requested confirmation that his approach was no right-of-way acquisition.
Commissioner Nash confirmed.
Commissioner Polk recommended Alternative 2 with the future possibility of
Olive Street. He indicated that Alternative 2 was the most affordable and gets
the proj ect going. He indicated that he would rely on staff to design and build
the necessary arteries.
Chairman Wilsey concurred with Commission Polk and City Manager
Watenpaugh that it would be most advantageous to look at Olive Street. He
suggested looking at short term solutions like striping the off-ramp for double .
left turns and signalization improvements.
Commissioner Barnes questioned the Caltrans ratings on the Alternatives
recommended by staff. City Engineer O'Donnell indicated that Caltrans had
not yet been approached. Commissioner Barnes commented that Altemative
2 would be a quick fix, but it would need to be in conjunction with a master
plan for traffic signalization. City Manager Watenpaugh advised that the
signals are timed the best they can be timed, but the problem is the stacking
factor. He stressed that the lights can't be coordinated any better without the
elimination of a light. Commissioner Barnes indicated that Alternative 2
would alleviate the back-up on the freeway; and concurred with City
Manager Watenpaugh that Alternatives 3-B plus 6 and 7-A would be the best
approach. He indicated that the traffic flow is bad and spending money on
the off-ramps won't help.
Councilman Pape indicated that staff had heard the Council's preferences and
the key would be the phasing to get some immediate relief. He noted that a
short term approach would allow more time to pursue the long term solutions.
He indicated that it was ultimately a matter of a decision by Caltrans and the
Federal Highway Administration, and the key is that staff knows the Council
concerns to be pursued at other levels.
Councilman Metze concurred with Councilman Pape and Commissioners
Wilsey, Polk and Nash.
Councilwoman Kelley concurred with the other comments, but stressed that
the most acceptable plan would be the one with the least taking of right-of-
way from businesses and the least amount of displacement. She suggested
Alternative 2, in conjunction with Alternative 6. Councilwoman Kelley
inquired if landscaping had been included in the costs presented. Mr. Chavez
indicated it was not included.
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Mayor Schiffner eapressed understanding of the need to get something done
quickly, but indicated that he did not necessarily like the least e~ensive,
most disruptive solutions. He noted the popularity of Alternative 9 in this
discussion, and noted that it could be done in phases. City Manager
Watenpaugh commented that Alternative 9 involves major taking of right-of-
way. Mayor Schiffner indicated that he liked Alternative 9, if it could be
done in phases over a period of time. He suggested that any part of that
alternative would provide immediate benefits, and each ramp built would
help more. He indicated that he was not sure that one phase would do as
much as the completion of Alternative 2, but indicated that he would be in
favor of a more long range approach.
City Manager Watenpaugh noted the popularity of each Alternative and noted
that the consensus would seem to be Alternatives 2, 3-A or 3-B, 6 and 9. He
suggested that these four options should be identified to Caltrans for
consideration. He questioned the need to narrow the choices to four
decisions, or whether all nine options could be taken forward. City Engineer
O'Donnell indicated that the consultant agreement was for the development of
four options. Mr. Chavez indicated that Caltrans was willing to do the
paperwork and look at three or four alternatives. Mayor Schiffner indicated
that the four alternatives recommended had been supported by the Council in
some format and suggested moving forward with the proposed options. City
Manager Watenpaugh clarified that Alternative 6 would require a completely
different study. Mr. Chavez suggested looking at Alternative 6 for a long
term solution, but choosing four other options to present to Caltrans. He
indicated that there was an effort to act as quickly as possible, and suggested
starting that plan in ne~t year's budget. There was general discussion of the
presentation of options to Caltrans and the final consensus was to look at 2, 3-
A or 3-B, 7-C and 9.
Cl~ris Hyland questioned the Council's ability to choose options at this
meeting. City Manager Watenpaugh indicated that the work was already
authorized by a contract for the study, but this consensus would be to move
forward with four rather than nine, and was only intended to determine if staff
was moving in the right direction.
THE STUDY SESSION WAS RECESSED AT 2:30 P.M.
THE STUDY SESSION RECONVENED AT 2:40 P.M.
2. Elsinore City Center Specific Plan Amendment No. 1- Oak Grove Equities.
(F:150.2)
City Manager Watenpaugh noted that this was an opportunity for the City
Council and Planning Commission to have open dialog on an issue that had
come up and has never happened before with regard to an item tabled when
an application has been filed. He indicated that staff was not certain of how
to move forward. He noted that based on the content of the item, it was
believed that the timing for discussion was right, since there was discussion
of the potential for traffic impacts on Railroad Canyon/I-15.
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Community Development Director Brady advised that the Planning
Commission had reviewed this project at their last meeting on December 6,
with regard to a General Plan Amendment, Site Plan Amendment and Design
Review for an apartment complex. He detailed the location of the 8.2 acre
site for a proposed 141 apartment unit complex in nine buildings. He noted
that the Planning Commission had concerns with the traffic impacts of the
project and they tabled the discussion until more information was available
on the alternatives. He noted that this item was presented to the Council in
March of 1999, at a Study Session and staff has worked with the applicant to
bring an appropriate design. He advised that the matter will be coming back
to the Council at a future noticed public hearing. City Manager Watenpaugh
advised that this meeting was attempt to start an open dialog between the
Council and the Planning Commission and work toward regular meetings on
direction, needs and standards.
Mayor Schiffner commented that it was appropriate for this discussion to
occur today in connection with the traffic discussion and closely following
the Planning Commission discussion.
Commissioner Nash indicated that his concerns at the Commission Meeting
related to the public outcry regarding the Railroad Canyon traffic problems
and he was concerned with adding another 300 plus residents when there was
not enough information on the traffic plan yet. He suggested it would not be
in the community's best interests to approve the project without traffic
alternatives. He commented that he had not seen any other three-story
apartments in the valley and questioned whether the amenities within the
project were sufficient.
Commissioner Polk indicated that he had been concerned about the impact on
traffic, but was reminded by Community Development Director Brady that it
was already zoned commercial. He suggested that with commercial
development the traffic impact would be at least the same as this project. He
noted concerns for lack of commercial space, but indicated that he liked this
project and felt it would be a positive project for the area, if the traffic can be
addressed.
Chairman Wilsey indicated his primary concern was the traffic and today's
meeting showed that efforts were being made to address it. He questioned
the possibility of coordinating the timing of a project like this with the
Caltrans efforts. He indicated that he had a concern with the specific plan for
commercial development, since there were currently limited commercial
applications along the freeway. He stressed the need for every possible
square foot of commercial development to keep tax dollar revenues in the
community.
Commissioner Barnes noted his understanding that commercial development
had already been approved for the site; and commented that the proposal
would ha~e generated up to 2,400 trips a day versus the 1,000 for this project.
He indicated that he was concerned with the traffic study and impacts of other
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projects. He noted comments regarding improvements on Kalmia Street
which is not even in the area.
Councilman Metze questioned why Cottonwood Hills was not being held up
for the same reasons.
Councilman Pape reiterated that this project came to the Council in March,
1999 and he liked the idea and the Council requested that the applicant
proceed with the project. He indicated that he had no problem back than and
he has no problem now. He noted that the site was originally approved for a
theater, but his project looks nice. He suggested that the applicant should be
conditioned to assure that the proj ect looks like the conceptual drawings. He
stressed that this project would generate less traffic than a shopping center;
and if traffic is used as a criteria, all proj ects including Pardee should be
denied. He questioned the proposed amenities. Glen Daigle, Applicant's
representative, indicated that there would be a tennis court, pool, tot lot, with
a fitness center and computer center in the clubhouse. He indicated that they
believed based on studies that the amenities would be sufficient. He also
advised that 81 units would have direct access garages with roll up doors and
remote controlled openers. Councilman Pape questioned the exercise room
and equipment. The Mr. Daigle indicated that it would be the entire second
floor of the clubhouse and gave an overview of the type of equipment which
might be included and noted that the tenants will help them decide on the
equipment.
Councilman Metze questioned the number of units. Mr. Brady advised that it
included 141 units. Councilman Metze indicated that he concurred with the
project in 1999 and supports in now, suggesting it was one of the better
locations for a multi-family development, as long as the amenities are
maintained. He questioned whether one pool would be adequate; but stressed
that he would support it as long as the amenities and standards are
maintained.
Councilwoman Kelley questioned the three story rendering and the views
presented in the original project. Community Development Director Brady
indicated that the three story buildings would be located toward the back of
the parcel. City Manager Watenpaugh noted that at the time the original
project was presented the Council felt that due to the topography they
wouldn't be out of place. Councilwoman Kelley questioned the time line for
development. Mr. Daigle indicated that they were seeking approval, however
the time line has not been determined. She expressed concern for the
impacts on the intersection and noted that they would still be significant. She
indicated that she liked the project.
Councilman Metze noted that there would be some positive benefits of
housing close to commercial.
Mayor Schiffner noted that there had been some discussion of senior housing
at that location: Mr. Daigle indicated that they were talking to the
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neighboring property owner regarding the potential far a joint development of
the project. Mayor Schiffner indicated that he liked this project, as much as
he would hate to loose commercial development, the traffic would be worse
with commercial development.
City Manager Watenpaugh noted that ne~ year there will be an update of the
General Plan, and based on economic development potential, staff will
recommend some new industrial and commercial zoning. He also noted that
this meeting was intended to be information, but the agenda for the Planning
Commission would not be set by this group, but rather the Chairman and the
Community Development Director.
Chris Hyland, 15191 Wavecrest, indicated that she didn't believe there should
be anything built at this location until the traffic problems were solved. She
noted that some people are driving to Target in Murrieta to avoid the traffic at
Walmart or Vons. She indicated that no one is against the apartments, but the
traffic is currently a pain in the neck. She suggested that the City was starting
to loose business due to the traffic problem.
Ace Vallejos, 15231 Cubre, indicated that commercial was being downgraded
to high density apartments, and suggested that made no sense al all.
;~ Councilman Metze suggested that he discuss it with the landowner.
George Alongi, 649 Mill Street, addressed the traffic and noted that even
though commercial development creates more traffic, it is spread over more
hours of the day. He indicated that with apartments there are about one and
one half hours in the morning and the same in the evening. He expressed
concem that these times were during peak traffic times.
Mayor Schiffner thanked everyone for attending.
ADJOURNMENT
MOVED BY METZE, SECONDED BY KELLEY AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO ADJOiJRN THE STUDY
SESSION AT 3:36 P.M.
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ROBERT L. SCHIF R, MAYOR
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
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VICKI SAD, CMC, CITY CLERK
CI'I'Y OF LAKE ELSINORE