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PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISORY COMMISSION
REGULAR MEETING
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
183 NORTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA
WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 12, 2009
CALL TO ORDER - 6:00 P.M.
Chairman Norkin called the meeting to order at 6:00 p.m.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Commissioner Cummings.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: CHAIRMAN NORKIN
COMMISSIONER CUMMINGS
COMMISSIONER DAILEY
COMMISSIONER FAIRCHILD
COMMISSIONER STEWART
ABSENT: NONE
Also present were: Information/Communications Manager Dennis, Assistant City
Attorney Mann, Police Sergeant Chavez, Police Officer Liebrand, Police Officer Sinz,
Building and Safety/Code Enforcement Manager and Office Specialist Porche.
PUBLIC COMMENTS
Chairman Norkin requested to have the Public Comments regarding the house on
Fir Circle in the Alberhill Ranch development heard after the Business Items.
COMMISSION APPROVES CONSENT CALENDAR ITEM(S)
1. Minutes from the Regular Public Safety Advisory Commission (PSAC) Meeting of
June 10, 2009.
Recommendation: Approve
It was motioned by Commissioner Dailey and seconded by Commissioner Stewart to
approve the June 10, 2009 Public Safety Advisory Meeting Minutes.
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The following vote resulted:
AYES: CHAIRMAN NORKIN
COMMISSIONER CUMMINGS
COMMISSIONER DAILEY
COMMISSIONER FAIRCHILD
COMMISSIONER STEWART
NOES: NONE
ABSTAIN: NONE
ABSENT: NONE
BUSINESS ITEMS
2. Reorganization of Officers
Information/Communications Manager Dennis stated in July of each year the
Commission of the Public Safety and Advisory Commission nominates and selects
new offices to include a Chairman and Vice Chair.
Chairman Norkin requested nominations for Chairman for the new fiscal year.
Commissioner Stewart nominated Chairman Norkin for Chairman for another year.
Commissioner Dailey seconded the nomination.
There being no other nominations for Chairman, Chairman Norkin called for a vote.
The following vote resulted:
AYES: CHAIRMAN NORKIN
COMMISSIONER CUMMINGS
COMMISSIONER DAILEY
COMMISSIONER FAIRCHILD
COMMISSIONER STEWART
NOES: NONE
ABSTAIN: NONE
ABSENT: NONE
Chairman Norkin requested nominations for Vice Chair.
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Commissioner Stewart nominated Commissioner Dailey for Vice Chair for the new
fiscal year.
Chairman Norkin seconded the nomination.
There being no other nominations, Chairman Norkin called for a vote.
The following vote resulted:
AYES: CHAIRMAN NORKIN
COMMISSIONER CUMMINGS
COMMISSIONER DAILEY
COMMISSIONER FAIRCHILD
COMMISSIONER STEWART
NOES: NONE
ABSTAIN: NONE
ABSENT: NONE
3. Neighborhood Outreach Meetings: Alberhill Ranch Request
Information/Communications Manager Dennis provided an overview and stated this
year the City's goal is to recognize and offer an opportunity to arrange a community
meeting in the west end of the City.
Vice-Chair Dailey asked if the Boys & Girls Club would be available to use.
Information/Communications Manager Dennis replied by saying the Boys & Girls
Club has enough floor space, however, he did not know if it is available in the
evening and if they would be able to accommodate a large-group setup by supplying
their chairs and PA/microphone equipment. .
Commissioner Stewart asked if the Boys and Girls Club would only charge for the
use of their Public Address System (PA).
Information/Communications Manager Dennis responded by saying he did not know
about any Boys and Girls Club facilities use fees, though there is a small fee to use
the multipurpose room at schools which covers the cost for the use of the room, AV
equipment and cleaning up after the meeting.
Commissioner Cummings asked if the outreach is limited to the surrounding area of
Alberhill.
Information/Communications Manager Dennis replied by saying it could be
publicized to get other citizens interested who may have neighborhood concerns or
issues.
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Vice-Chair Dailey requested to have the meeting scheduled for 6:00 p.m.
Chairman Norkin requested to have the meeting as soon as possible and called for a
motion.
A motion was made by Vice-Chair Dailey, seconded by Chairman Norkin to have
staff coordinate and schedule a community outreach for the Alberhill Ranch
Community as soon as possible at a nearby facility or at the City's Cultural Center.
The following vote resulted:
AYES: CHAIRMAN NORKIN
COMMISSIONER CUMMINGS
COMMISSIONER DAILEY
COMMISSIONER FAIRCHILD
COMMISSIONER STEWART
NOES: NONE
ABSTAIN: NONE
ABSENT: NONE
4. Crime Free Multi-Housing Program Assessment
Information/Communications Manager Dennis stated Mayor Pro-Tem Melendez has
requested this item be placed on the agenda to form a two-person subcommittee to
meet with staff and Police Department to reestablish the program and ensure
greater program exposure and compliance by leveraging available resources.
Chairman Norkin asked if he knew of how many Crime Free Multi-Housing
establishments there are in the City.
Information/Communications Manager Dennis replied by saying he did not have a
number for Chairman Norkin. He stated that this is an area that the committee could
research.
Chairman Norkin asked Sergeant Chavez if the City's Police Department has a CSO
that would be in charge of the program.
Sergeant Chavez replied by saying one of the issues the Police Department is
having is there currently isn't anyone trained to train an apartment manager because
of the budget cuts. He stated in order for an apartment complex or condo complex
to be designated as a crime-free housing facility, the Police Department would need
to provide additional training.
Chairman Norkin asked if it would be possible to select a date in the future.
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Sergeant Chavez responded by saying a date could be set as long as there is
someone available who could conduct the training. He stated at this time there isn't
anyone available.
Commissioners Stewart and Fairchild volunteered to be on the subcommittee with
Commissioner Cummings as the alternate.
A motion was made by Chairman Norkin and seconded by Vice Chair Dailey to
select Commissioner Stewart and Commissioner Fairchild as the subcommittee and
Commissioner Cummings as the alternate to review the Crime Free Multi-Housing
Program.
The following vote resulted:
AYES: CHAIRMAN NORKIN
COMMISSIONER CUMMINGS
COMMISSIONER DAILEY
COMMISSIONER FAIRCHILD
COMMISSIONER STEWART
NOES: NONE
ABSTAIN: NONE
ABSENT: NONE
4. Annual Inspection Tour of the Lake
Recommendation: Receive and file
Information/Communications Manager Dennis stated one of the goals of the Public
Safety Advisory Commission is to annually inspect the lake safety facilities on and
off the lake. He requested the Commission to discuss a date and time that would
accommodate the entire Commission.
Chairman Norkin suggested meeting August 25 or August 27, 2009 at 7:30 am at
the Seaport Boat Launch.
A motion was made by Chairman Norkin and seconded by Commissioner Stewart to
have the annual inspection of the lake scheduled for either August 25 or August 27,
2009 at 7:30 a.m.
The following vote resulted:
AYES: CHAIRMAN NORKIN
COMMISSIONER CUMMINGS
COMMISSIONER DAILEY
COMMISSIONER FAIRCHILD
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COMMISSIONER STEWART
NOES: NONE
ABSTAIN: NONE
ABSENT: NONE
PUBLIC SAFETY SUBCOMMITTEE REPORTS
Commissioner Daily noted that the Citizen Corps meeting that was scheduled for
August 12, 2009 had been cancelled, however, she provided an overview of what
the Citizen Corps is currently working on.
CITY STAFF COMMENTS
Police Officer Sinz commented on the following:
• He commented on the foreclosed home on Fir Circle and stated they are working
closely with City staff to take the proper enforcement action in coordination with the
City's Code Enforcement Division.
Information/Communications Manager Dennis commented on the following:
He circulated a draft Outlook Newsletter for their review and stated the mailing would
occur the following week to over 22, 500 residents and businesses.
He spoke of the upcoming State of the City which is scheduled for August 20, at
5:00 at the Diamond Club.
He spoke of the upcoming CERT Training and invited the new Commissioners to
take advantage of CERT training when convenient.
PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISORY COMMISSIONERS' COMMENTS
Chairman Norkin commented on the following:
He requested a study session to be scheduled for the week of September 14 for the
purpose of discussing foreclosures and requested a representative from the Water
District, SCE and the City's Code Enforcement Department and Police Department
to attend.
Vice-Chair Dailey commented on the following:
• She welcomed Commissioners Fairchild and Cummings to the Commission.
• She thanked the audience for their participation.
• She stated that the Outlook Newsletter looked great and thanked
Information/Communications Manager Dennis for all his hard work.
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Commissioner Cummings commented on the following:
• No comments.
Commissioner Fairchild commented on the following:
She thanked the City Council for the appointment of serving on the Commission and
stated she is looking forward to serving the City as Commissioner.
Commissioner Stewart commented on the following:
• No comments.
PUBLIC COMMENTS
Pat Dagan, resident of Lake Elsinore spoke to the Commission regarding the
foreclosed home on Fir Circle in Lake Elsinore that is currently being occupied by
"squatters" and has been for two years. She stated she lives next door to the house
and she can smell urine, feces and trash and has concerns for her family. She
stated she has called the City's Code Enforcement Department, the HOA and Fox
11, about the problems with a varying degree of responsiveness. She
acknowledged the efforts of Code Enforcement and the Sheriffs Department, though
she felt the ongoing situation is still a safety concern that has not yet been resolved
the way she and her neighbors would like it to be. She indicated she would continue
to send emails to any that are involved and would attend City Council Meeting until
she gets results.
Chairman Norkin pointed out to the audience that this item was not on the agenda
and therefore the Commission could not take any actions. He stated the
Commission would listen to the concerns of the public and, if necessary, have the
item placed on an upcoming agenda for discussion, if appropriate.
Edward Dagan, resident of Lake Elsinore indicated this has been ongoing for two
years and encourages the Commission on whatever they can do to resolve the
issue.
David Janus, resident of Lake Elsinore stated it is important for the Commission to
be involved with the situation and find a way to coordinate with all involved including
the utility companies, law enforcement and the County of Riverside and to form
some organization that could assist with problem.
Commissioner Fairchild asked how it was possible to identify owner and if there was
a sign posted in the front yard.
Pat Dagan replied by saying she researched the owner of the house by way of the
internet and stated that there is no sign in the front yard.
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Building & Safety/Code Enforcement Manager Chipman was requested to provide to
the Commission a summary of ongoing actions that have taken place. He stated the
house was fraudulently purchased and never lived in by the buyer and the bank took
possession of the property but fell into bankruptcy leaving no one responsible for the
property. He indicated squatters moved into the house and set up accounts for
utility services. He stated the neighbors started filing complaints with the Code
Enforcement but each time the City responded there was little they could do as long
as the occupants had proper utilities. He indicated the City has no jurisdiction to
determine legal occupancy of the property for the purpose of vacating someone. He
stated that process must be followed through by the legal owners of the property or
law enforcement.
Assistant City Attorney Mann asked Building & Safety/Code Enforcement Manager
Chipman if American Mortgage has indicated that the squatters have any legal rights
to the property.
Building & Safety/Code Enforcement Manager Chipman replied by saying that
American Mortgage has indicated that the squatters do not have rights to the
property, however, the legal department for American Mortgage is trying to decipher
and clarify information before they are willing to take any legal action.
Commissioner Cummings asked if there are any animals on the property and if so,
are they contained to the backyard.
Pat Dagan replied by saying there were dogs living in the backyard but have since
been taken away.
Vice-Chair Dailey asked if the City has any legal rights and if they can do anything to
help out with "squatters."
Assistant City Attorney Mann responded by saying he would research to see what
other surrounding cities are doing and report back to the Commission. He stated the
only way the City can evict someone out of a home would be if there were an
emergency or if they were in any immediate danger.
Commissioner Cummings asked Building & Safety/Code Enforcement Manager
Chipman what are the procedures when the bank decides on removing the squatters
from the property.
Building & Safety/Code Enforcement Manager Chipman replied by saying when
American Home Mortgage signs a "No Trespassing" letter and provides it to the
Sheriffs Department, it then gives the right to the Sheriffs Department to enforce
eviction. He stated the City would not be involved.
Commissioner Cummings asked if there were any children currently living on the
premises.
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Pat Dagan replied by saying, sometimes children are seen on the weekends
Commissioner Cummings asked if child protective services need to be notified and
does the City have any legal stand to protect any children living in the home.
Commissioner Stewart stated that there is a moratorium with banks and their
procedures. He stated in Riverside County there are approximately 25,000
foreclosures which could be a reason why it is taking so long to get any action.
Vice-Chair Dailey asked the Police Department if they have increased patrolling the
street where the house is located.
Police Officer Sinz replied by saying all they can do is drive by occasionally and
check the area to make sure all is safe.
Information/Communications Manager Dennis stated that these questions could be
addressed at the staff level and reported back to the residents, since the item is not
presently on the PSAC agenda.
ADJOURNMENT
It was the consensus of the Commission to adjourn to a regular meeting on September
9, 2009, at 6:00 p.m. in the Cultural Center located at 183 North Main Street, Lake
Elsinore, California, CA, 92530.
Chairman Norkin adjourned the meeting at 7:26
MIKE NOW N, CHAIRMAN
PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISORY COMMISSION
RESPECTF,~~UL~/L'/~Y SUBMITTED:
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DANA C. PORCHP
OFFICE SPECIALIST
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