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HomeMy WebLinkAbout02-06-2002 NAHMINUTES PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE 183 NORTH MAIN STREET I.AKE ELSINORE, CA 92530 Wednesday February 6, 2002 The Regular Plauning Coxsunission Meeting was called to order at 7:01 PM by Vice ~7airman B2[nes. The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Conuxussioner Polk. ROLL CALL PRESENT: COMMISSIONERS: ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: POLK, MATTHIES, BARNES, AND NASH WILSEY Also present were Community Development Director Brady, Planning Manager Villa, Planning Associate Miller, City Engineer O'Donnell, Community Development Technician Hennings and Community Development Clerk Porche'. PUBLIC COMMENTS None. CONSENT CALENDAR Coimnissioner Polk noted that in the Study Session Minutes, page 2 of 4, second paragraph, second line, there is a spelling error. He requested to have the word "iYa'x~d~l" be changed to "include". ComTnissioner Polk also indicated that on the same page, 3rd paragraph the acroxrym "RHNA" needed to be clarified. Community Development Director Brady indicated that "RHNA" stands for "Regional Housing Needs Assessment". There were no furtlier comments. MOVED BY POLK, SECONDED BY MATTHIES AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDARAS PRESENTED. 1a. Minutes of Public Workshop/Meeting - December 19, 2001 lb. Minutes of Plauning Commission Regular Meeting-December 19, 2001 PUBLIC HEARINGS Public Hearing Vice Chairman Barnes opened the at 7:05 PM. PAGE 2- PLANNING COMMISSION MINiTTES - FEBRUARY 6, 2002 Community Development Director Brady indicated that this is a request for a Design Review of an expansion of an existing self-storage unit, and requested Community Development Technician Heiuungs to review it with the Plumiug Comrnission. Community Development Technician Heiuiiugs stated that this is Design Review of Lake Elsinore Self-Storage located at 29151 Riverside Dr., which is located off of Collier Avenue, located at the corner of Riverside Drive and El Toro Road. She indicated that the e~sting facility is approxiinately 62,891 square feet and sits on a appro~mately 3.32 acres. She commented that the expansion would include a total of 5 buildings on 1-acre site. She stated that there would be a total of 138 units totaling 24,479 of additional storage facility. Communiry Development Technician Hennings indicated that the rear walls of the building, M, I and J will be utilized as exterior walls along El Toro Road and the drainage channel. She stated that similar colors and material would be used as on the earisting facility. She commented that this would include along the esterior walls, a concrete block wall, with a 2- row band of split face block. She stated that along El Toro Road there would be decorative pilasters every 20 feet. Community Development Technician Hennings indicated that this plan is in compliance with development standards of the Lake Elsinore Municipal Code (LEMC~. She indicated that Staff is recommending that the Plauning Comtnission adopt Resolution No. 2002-O1 recommending that the City Council approve Design Review for Industrial Project No. 2001-04 subjea to the Findings, Exhibits, and Conditions of Approval. Community Development Technician Hennings stated that the Applicants Engineer is here to answer any questions. Vice Chairman Barnes requested Community Development Clerk Porche' if there were any requests from the public to speak. Community Development Clerk Porche' indicated that there were no requests submitted. Vice Chairman Barnes requested the applicant to approach the table and introduce lumself. Applicant Doug Goodman with Goodman and Associates indicated that he is the Engineer of the projea, and he is representing the owner. Applicant Gooduia~i stated that he is available to answer any questions that the Cominission, Staff or the Public may have. He stated that the owner is very happy to expand the project. He stated that this would be the third expansion. Applicant Goodman indicated that there is one Condition that he has previously discussed with City Engineer O'Donnell. Applicant Goodman stated that Condition No. 26 discusses the improvements of the drainage channel. Applicant Goodman requested to have the opportunity to discuss the magnitude of those improvements or just how it might be handled subjected to the approval of the City En~neer O'Donnell. He suggested to add a phrase subj~t to the approzrd of the Engirrcer': Applicant Goodman had no further statements. Vice Chairman Barnes requested any comments from City Engineer O'Donell. PAGE 3- PLANNING COMMISSION MIlVLI'fES - FEBRUARY 6, 2002 City Engineer O'Donnell indicated that he did discuss Condiuon No. 26 with the Applicant and indicated that changing the wording to "subject to tlae approcrd of th~ C'uy Engtr~er" would be acceptable without any objections. Vice Chairman Barnes asked the Comcnissioners if they had any comments. Conuxussioner Nash commented that this would be a natural course for the applicant to expand his properry. He had no further comments. Cominissioner Matthies concurred with Commissioner Nash. She also indicated that she concurred with the changing of wording on Condition No. 26. Commissioner Polk requested clarification on the building walls of the project. He wanted to know if that would be a problem with the respect of the securiry of the propeny inside the storage units. Applicant Goodman indicated that the backside of the wall is a benefit versus a lower than standard wall. He noted that this is a 9-foot wall, and generally security is not a problem. Commissioner Polk understood and also had a question regarding Condition No. 9. He wanted to know if it is always necessary to have fees paid to the Lake Elsinore Unified School Districe. Community Development Director Brady indicated that it is a requirement for all Industrial, Commercial and Residential properties to pay fees to the School District at the rates adopted by the School District. Conuiussion Polk had no fiirther questions. Vice Chairman Barnes stated that the project is well maintained, attracuve and well utilized. Vice Chairxnan Barnes had no fiu-ther questions and recommended the reading of the resolution. Communiry Development Director Brady stated that on the Condition No. 26 to add the wording "The drainage channel side slope along the properry line shall be required to be improved to protect the site from erosion, "subject to tl~ approzal of tl~ Ci1y Eng'meer". Communiry Development Director Brady also wanted to correct a typo in the Condition No. 26, which is rading. He stated that the correct word should be gradmg. There being no fizrther comments, Vice Chairman Barnes closed the Public Hearing at 7:14 PM. MOVED BY NASH, SECONDED BY POLK AND PASSED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO ADOPT A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA, RECOMMENDING TO THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF LAI~E ELSINORE APPROVAL OF INDUSTRIAL PROJECT NO. 2001-04 FOR THE CONSTRUCTIN OF FIVE BUILDINGS TOTALING 24,479 SQUARE PAGE 4- PLANNING COMMISSION MINUfES - FEBRUARY 6, 2002 FEET TO BE AN EXPANSION OF THE LAKE ELSINORE SELF STORAGE LOCATED AT 29151 RIVERSIDE DRIVE (APN 377-050-022) General Plan Amendment No. 2000-03 for "Revised-Draft" update to the Housin~ Element of the General Plan (Period 2000-2005~ Vice Chairman Barnes opened a the Pubic Hearing at 7:15 PM Community Development Director Brady indicated that this is the "Revised-Draft" of the Housing Element of the General Plan. He indicated that the Plaiuvug Commission previously had a study session and workshop on the revised update of the Cit}~s General Plan. He indicated that this is a requirement by law to update the General Plan on a regular basis. He requested that Plaiuiuig Manager Villa review the General Plan with the Planning Cominission. Pla.nnuig Manager Villa indicated that he would like to give an overview of what the Housing Elements entails, and then have the consukants go over it as well. He stated that upon conclusion of the overview, it would be brought back to the table for any questions that the Commission might have. Pluuiiiig Manager Villa stated that this Housing Element update is State mandated. He , indicated that the State requires the City to update the Element every five years. He stated '' that we have looked at all our policies and objecuves of our last update, and included all of our updated census information and came up with a comprehensive plan. Planning Manager Villa requested that consultants John Douglas and Collin Drukker of the Planning Center to take over the presentation. Consultant John Douglas stated that he is a consultant to the City, and was joined with his Colleague Collin Drukker. Consultant Douglas commented that the Housing Element is a required part of the Cit}~s General Plan. He stated that the Housing Element is the only Element that must go though the State review process. He indicated that the Housing Element is the Ciry's plan of how to address the needs of the preservation and improvement of the existing housing stock as well as a plan for new housing to address a new range of income needs in the community. Consultant Douglas indicated that there is a term to be referred as Certification. He stated that this is the process that the State reviews and approves local housing elements. He stated that the goal is to adopt a Housing Element that meets the State requirements and gets certification. He stated that this is important, because it maintains the Ciry's eligibility for grant funding and also maintains a legal General Plan. Consultant Douglas stated that the Draft Element was prepared and submitted to the State. He stated that the workshop that was held in December reviewed the comments by the State and the responses to those comments. He stated that since then, we have worked to revise the language. He indicated that the revisions that we have made have addressed all of the State's concerns, and that if the adoption goes thought this evening that the State would issue certification. PAGE 5- PLANNING COMMISSION MINUfES - FEBRUARY 6, 2002 Consultant Dn.ikker approached the table and presented a Power Point Presentation of what is contained in the Housing Element and discussed those specific issues that the State raised. He stated that the State has a goal to maintain descent housing and suitable housing for every California family. The Housing Element addresses this by providing long term pluuiiug to address the Cit}~s housing needs. He indicated that the Housing Element is one part of the plan. He stated that there are sis other elements to be included: Circulation Elements, Open Space Conservation, Noise, Air Quality, Public Safety and Land Use. Consultant Dnikker stated that there are five components to the development of a Housing Element Update. He stated that the first one is the Housing Needs Assessment which addresses the existing needs and the fixture growth needs of the Ciry. He stated that it also discusses the constraints and resources, the non-governmental and governmental constraints. He stated that it also reviews the previous Housing Element. It looks at it goals to see how well it was implemented. He stated that it also looks at the current elements, and looks at the five-year action plan that implements these goals. He stated that the Housing Element process begins with an evaluation of the previous element, and then moves on to an assessment of the eYisting of projected growth needs. He stated that it looks at the constraints of the growth of the City, it refines the goals of the previous element and then it produces a five-year action plan. The significance of having a certified housing element is for the legality. If you have a certified Housing Element, it will insure that you have a legally adequate general plan, and will ensure that the Ciry will be eligible for certain grant programs. Consultant Dnd~lier stated that the growth of the City from 1990 to 2020 ~vould increase appro~cimately 65,000. Riverside County is receiving a great deal more growth due to the lower housing prices. Consultant Drukker commented on the RHNA allocauon, in comparison to the other jurisdictions in the county, Lake Elsinore has a small regional allocation; Lake Elsinore is 4% of Riverside County 93,000. He indicated that when you look at the Regional Housing Needs Assessment, allocation being broken down by income category. He stated that when you consider the income categories, and housing affordability, you could see that the maximuxn housing rent is approximately $600.00 from very low to $1,000.00 low income. He indicated that when you look at the low-income allocation, you have to consider when there is a stigma attached to low income housing. When you look at the salary ranges of the essential people in our sociery you can see that a firefighter can afford sometimes only a low-income house. So it is important to provide low housing for them. He indicated that existing home prices, in the recent survey conducted in 2000 the Lake Elsinore housing prices is relative to the County, slighdy lower and more affordable than Orange County. He stated that when you look at the occupations of the people that are employed m Lake Elsinore, you could see that we are dominated by the services, manufactuiuig and retail trade industries. In 1990 and 2000 the major employers were the Unified School District and the Outlet Center, Wal-Mart, and other service industry. You can see that the trends are continuing in 2000. With the existing need the housing element considers special needs, populations, those overpaying for housing and overcrowded conditions. Special needs are elderly, disabled, large fanulies, the homeless, farm workers, and female head of households. He indicated that looking at constraints, the Housing Element considers land uses, second unit requirements, and development fees. None of these were considered to be a constraint to the development of affordable housing in the PAGE 6- PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES - FEBRUARY 5, 2002 City. He indicated that in a brief review of a previous housing element, its goals were to provide 15,000 units for its RHNA allocation. He stated that what it achieved was over and above that goal, but it fell short in the very low-income category. He stated that when you look at the pluu~iug period allocation, you could see that there is 3,700 units approximately 57% of moderate to above moderate. He stated that the new construction goals would match that. Consultant Drul~lcer then went over the City's responses to the comments made by the State department of the Housing and Community Development. He indicated that they are broken down into three main categories. He stated that the rehabilitauon section considers what proponion of the Ciry housing units are in need of rehabilitation. He stated that the State wanted to see how many units were in the Ciry, at the time we prepared the initial draft element. We looked at the Riverside County consolidated plan and from their comprised data that aloud us to estimate 10% or 12,090 in the City that were in need of rehabilitation or replacement. He stated that in the development fees, the State is looking at this because they aze concerned about what potential barriers aze produced for affordable housing with the City development fees or actions. Consukant Dnikker stated that the Ciry responded by providing information on approxunate fees of single family or mukifamily housing. The Ciry provided 3 tables of hypothetical situations and the State was satisfied with that response. He indicated that the special needs for the elderly it was more of a data issue, we did not break down the number of elderly households by 10 years, so we subsequendy found that there were 952 elderly homeowner house holds and 239 renter households. Consukant Drukker stated that in the housing program, in general the State wanted more coiimutments from the Ciry, specifically in the land use elements/development code. He stated that the Ci~s land inventory showed that we have sufficient medium or high-density vacant land suitable for residential construction. He stated that the State wanted to know how the Ciry was going to insure that this land was going to be used to its maximum use potential. He stated that the City suggested several strategies. He stated one of which is density bonus ordinance. He indicated that the other is land and develogment agreement that required developers to produce concurrendy a certain percentage of affordable housing in each phase of their development. He stated that what this does is it forces developers to praduce affordable housing in conjunction with the style and the development pattern of the entire phase of the project. Consultant Dnd~lcer commented on the Density Bonus Ordinance the State requested information how the Ciry was going to encourage its use. He stated that the City's response was that the City was going to provide incentives such as land right downs, fee waivers or reduced development standards if the developer was going to take advantage of the density bonus ordinance. He indicated with the low income tas credit funds, the State wanted to know how the Ciry was going to help the developer and help produce sites, ?hat can take advantage of these funds. He stated that the Ciry agreed to identify sites that experienced profit and non-profit developers cauld to take advantage of these funds and produce affordable housing. He stated that the 20% set aside, fiznding the State wanted to know specific unencumbered balance of the 20%o set aside funds that would be useable for new construction. The Ciry identified $500,000.00 dollars, $100,000.00 for each plam~iug period for 2000-2005 to be used for constructicn. This is consistent with the Adopted Redevelopment Agency Plan. PAGE 7- PLANNING COMMISSION MINLITES - FEBRUARY 6, 2002 Consultant Dnikker stated that in the area of emergency shekers and transitional housing, the State wanted to make sure that the Ciry's Zoning Code allowed for transitional housing and emergency shelter. He stated that the City decided to update its Zoning Code to allow these uses with a Conditional Use Permit in both the R-2 and R-3 zones medium and high- density zones. He stated that in the equal housing opportututy, the previous draft of the element, that the City was going to produce an equal housing opportunity booklet, but it did not specify a date, so the State wanted a specific time line. He stated that the City agreed to produce this booklet by the end of 2002 and distribute in the public facilities. Consukant Dnikker indicated that in the public participation the State wanted to emphasize that the City should encourage adequate abiliry for the public to provide input on the public housing element. He stated that the City held the Study Session in late December and we are now holding this hearing and a City Council meeting will be held, and the State is satisfied with that. Consultant Drukker concluded his presentation Plamiing Manager Villa stated that, based on the presentation, and implementation plan that would cover the next five years planning period from 2000-2005, he stated that this year we need to develop a density bonus ordinance and amend the zoning codes to allow transitional housing in R-2 and R-3 zones with a Condition Use Pern~it. He stated that we need to work on language for future specific plans and development agreements to entice developers to take advantage of the affordable housing miY in with their plans. He indicated that he felt that the Policies, goals, and objective included in the Updated Element and contained in the previous element could be achieved and were reasonable for the upcoming planning period. Plannuig Manager Villa stated that based on the comments that we received from the State, they were pleased to see that the City is making an effort to comply with the States requirements. He stated that Staff prepared an environmental document, in the form of a Negative Declaration for the housing element and it was sent to the State Clearing House. Plamiuig Manager Villa recommended that the Planning Commission adopt Resolution Number 2002-02 recommending to the City Council approval of the General Plan Amendment No 2000-03 for the adoption of the Draft Update to the Housing Element based on the following Findings, in addition, it is fiirtlier recommended that Resolution No. 2002-03, which would be a recommendation to adopt a Negative Declaration for the Housing Element Update based on the findings of the Staff Report. Vice Chau7nan Barnes indicated that there were no further questions, and brought it back to the table for discussion. Coxnxnissioner Matthies had no comments Commissioner Nash requested clarification on the County un-incorporated azeas as to whether they are going to be required by the State to adopt similar plans. PAGE 8- PLANNING COMMISSION MINLJ'PES - FEBRUARY 6, 2002 Community Development Director Brady indicated that the un-incorporated areas would be required as well. He stated that all Ciry's/Counties within the State are required to abide by the State Law Housing Element. He stated that the County is currently going through a process now where they are updating their General Plan. Commissioner Nash stated that builders and developers are avoiding City's, because the fees and structures are less restrictive and lenient, and not entirely abiding by what should be mandate to them. He continued to say that he doesn't know the enforcement to that as far as the un-incotporated azeas. He felt that that this would be a challenge with this document for Staff to comply as far as fees. He stated that the City does have infill areas that would be ideal for these types of projects. He continued to say that he felt that Staff was doing a great job complying with this task, and looks forward to see it happen. Commissioner Nash had no fixrther comments. Comxnissioner Polk commented on what Staff felt on R-2, R-3 Zoning for emergency shelters, even under Conditional Use Pemut? He continued to ask, did churches fall under that category and is there some way to offer this incentive to e~usting churches to provide that type of housing or emergency shelters? He continued, wouldn't that protect the standards of the other developments by not having emergency shelters within those developments or purposely applied to them? . Plannuig Manager Villa indicated that the Ciry approached this requirement of the State to include those uses in the high-densiry areas with a CUP. We fek that the definition of transitional housing or shelters was a similar use as a congregate facility, and those were included in churches in the Residential areas. He continued to say that there was specific language in the zoning code that would allow either by right or by Conditional Use Permit (CLJI'~. He continued to say that Staff felt that through the CLJP process we would have better control of where these are located. Commissioner Polk understood, however wanted further clarification on whether it is possible to direct those incentives to the churches, such as in basement facilities. Commissioner Polk stated that we were working last year on a major apartment project that was suppose to go up on Grape Street, which has not begun yet. He continued to say that there was some discussion about the developer would pay fees in lieu of putting up affordable apaitment in there in order to protect the standards. He commented as to if that process still apply in lieu of our being in the face of this plan? Community Development Director Brady stated that the project on Grape Street, is a redevelopment area. We are trying to meet inclusionary housing developments under the redevelopment law. Communiry Development Director Brady continue to say that we looked at a way to include those as part of the project, designate affordable uniu or provide them with the opportuuiry in coming up with a way fee structure to provide those units elsewhere within the redevelopment area. Conuxussioner Polk stated that he recalled that. PAGE 9- PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES - FEBRUARY 6, 2002 Community Development Director Brady continued to say that the same could be applied with other projects within the redevelopment plan itself, and so that would still be available. Cominissioner Polk indicated that we did not necessarily want to place a stigxna on these particular areas. He continued to say that yet, doesn't that fee structiue allow that to happen. Lets say everybody in an R-2 or R-3 zone paid the fees in lieu, then that essentially gets us down to building a village of affordable housing. He stated that he wanted to protect the propertyvalues of these areas. Comnussioner Polk requested clarification as to what is the Williamson Act? Pluuiiug Manager Villa stated that the Williaznson Act does not apply to Lake Elsinore, as there is no more agricultural land, however it is essentially a State Law that places certain mandates on City's to preserve the agricultural land. Conuiussioner Polk stated that this is a marvelous plan, and appears to be very well thought out, and congratulated the consukants for doing a great job. Vice Chairxnan Barnes concurred with Polk statements, and did have a question for the Staff, which was on one hand we have the County of Riverside mandating the confiscation of developable privately ozera~l propeny or habitat or species habitat. He continued to say that not knowixig what that is yet, how much it's going to be, and haca~ it is gnazg to vnput our citizens/taz~ payers privately held land, by adopting this, are we going to be in any conflict with what ever happens with that mandated confiscation. Community Development Director Brady stated that the amount of land that the City could be subjected to providing for habitat conservation and the goals that's been set for providing affordable housing as indicated in the RHNA numbers at the low and moderate level, that's a good question. He continued to say that he has his own opinions, comments and concerns as how the numbers are applied to the various jurisdictions through the state. He continue to say that these types of issues, that there is no way to address this issue. Community Development Director Brady stated that the City of Lake Elsinore already provides affordable housing for Orange County. He stated that numbers that have been brought to us are goals, and as such we are required to try to remove the constraints and try to allow this to happen by removing the possible constraints. Vice Chai:man Barnes had no further questions and closed the Public Hearing at 7:50 PM MOVED BY POLK, SECONDED BY MATTHIES AND PASSED BY A UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO ADOPT RESOLUTION NO. 2002-02 A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA RECOMMENDING TO THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE APPROVAL OF GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT NO 2000-03 TO UPDATE TO THE HOUSING ELEMENT OF THE GENERAL PLAN PAGE 10 - PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES - FEBRUARY 6, 2002 MOVED BY NASH, SECONDED BY POLK AND PASSED BY A UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO ADOPT RESOLUTION NO. 2002-03 A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF r.axF. ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA RECOMMENDING TO THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF LAI~E ELSINORE ADOPTION OF THE NEGATIVE DECLARATION FOR THE UPDATE TO THE HOUSING ELEMENT OF THE GENERAL PLAN AND GENERAL PLAN NO. AMENDMENT NO. 2000-03 BUSINESS ITEMS Minor Design review of Miscellaneous Project No. 2001-08 Community Development Director Brady indicated thai this is a request for a Minor Design Review, and requested Associate Planner Miller to review the request with the Pla.nnuig Comrnission. Associate Planner Miller indicated that this is a first co-location at a facility operated by Ne~tel, which is also known as the "monopine site". She stated that the Pluuiing Commission on April 5, 2000 originally approved the site. She indicated that the project includes enclosure of 14 x 15 feet that will house the equipment. She stated that there will be a 6-foot wood fence, with pilaster that would match the current fencing will secure the enclosure. She stated that there would be three panels attached to the eausting monopine at the 63-foot level. She stated that the panels will hold 4 antennas for a total of 12 additional antennas. Associate Planner Miller stated that Staff requested additional branches to conceal the new panels, but was told by an expert Engineer that built the e~usting tower that the maximum nuxnber of branches were built on the tower and that no additional branches could be supported by it. She stated that the applicant submitted a photo simulation showing how the monopine would look with the additional panels and antennas: She stated that after review of the photo simulauon, Staff concluded that the panels would be substanually hidden from view. She stated that Staff is recommending to adopt the resolurion and approve Miscellaneous Project 2001-08, located at 16401 Lakeshore Drive based on the Findings, Conditions and Exhibits of approval. She stated that the applicant is here to answer any questions. Vice ChairmanBarnes asked the Cominissioners if they had any comments. Cominissioner Mattlues requested clarification that there would not be any additional branches, just antennas? Assbciate Planner Miller indicated that was correct. Comnussioner Matthies requested clarification as if it would still look like the photo simulation without the additional branches: PAGE 11 - PLANNING COMMISSION MINLTI'ES - FEBRUARY 6, 2002 Associate Planner Miller indicated that this is what the applicant is guaranteeing. Commissioner Matthies had no fixrther questions. Vice Chairman concurred with Commissioner Matthies quesdon. He requested clarificadon as if that figure was based on structural weight loads? Associate Planner Miller stated that it was based on an Engineers decision that built the original monopine. Vice Chairxnan had no further comments. Cominissioner Nash stated as to whether or not we are going to see more of these "piggyback" type applications. Associated Planner Miller indicated that hopefully. She indicated that the last monopine that was built in the City was up at the watertower, and it is very well concealed with branches. Commissioner Nash requested as if there were enough room for additional antennas in the watertank. Associate Planner Miller stated that they are providing space for one more. Coininissioner Nash asked if that would be sufficient? Associate Planner Miller stated that just one more is what the applicant stated. Com~nissioner Nash stated that if there were to be any others, that they must have an addiuonal site. Associated Planner Miller indicated that was correct. Commissioner Nash had no further questions. Commissioner Polk requested clarificauon as to whether or not Ne~rtel design it structurally, to accommodate the extra panels? Associate Planner Miller indicated that was correct, that they designed for two. Cominissioner Polk asked if Sprint rents part of the pole from Nextel. Associate Planner Miller indicated that was probably true, however the applicant could answer that one. Applicant Shelly Kilbourn approached the table. She indicated that Sprint does in fact pay a certain type of rent to Neartel and also to the underlined landlord. PAGE 12 - PLANNING COMMISSION MINLTTES - FEBRUARY 6, 2002 Comaussioner Polk requested clarification on page 3 of 15 of the Staff report. He indicated that the word "at" appears to be missing. He indicated that he liked the design of the monopine, and is impressed on how good it is. He stated other than that he had no further comments. Vice Cha~rmar, Barnes requested the reading of the resolurion. MOVED BY MATTHIES, SECONDED BY POLK AND PASSED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO ADOPT RESOLUTION NO. 2002-04 RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING CONIMISSION OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA, APPROVING MINOR DESIGN REVIEW OF MISCELLANEOUS PROJECT NO. 2001-OS WHICH ENTAILS REVIEW OF A TELECONIMUNICATIONS FACILITY CO-LOCATING AT AN EXISTING TELECONIMUNICATINS FACILITY LOCATED AT 16401 Lt~I~ESHORE DRIVE. INFORMATIONAL none STAFF COMMENTS Communitv Development Director Bradv: • He indicated that he would not be pxesent duxing the ne~ct Planning Coimnission Meeting, however Planning Manager Villa will be available to answer any questions that the Conunission may have. PLANNING COMMISSIONER'S CONIMENTS Coininissioner Matthies commented on the followine: • She wanted to commend Staff for all the hard work. Commissioner Polk commented on the followine: • He wanted to express to Staff on how well of a job they have done in the Housing Element Plan. • He also wanted to wish Chairman Wilsey the very best, and that he is sorry to here of his illness. PAGE 13 - PLANNING COMMISSION MINU'I'ES - FEBRUARY 6, 2002 Commissioner Nash commented on the followine: • He too wanted to express his well wishes to Chairman V(rilsey, and his family. • He also wanted to thank all Staff and Ciry personnel for their concem to his family, and was greatly appreciated. Vice Chairman Barnes commented on the followine: H e wished the best fox Chaixman Wilsey. He commented on the Ultramax Gas Station still has not been completed, even though it's been approved for re-design and upgrades. He wanted to know what is the status of the project? Pluuiing Manager Villa indicated that this has been an ongoing battle with the applicant, where they had the approval. He stated that the only issue that is remaining is the release for the liquor license, which they state they badly need. He indicated that they still are submitting plans for expansion, and that they purchased the parcel ne~rt to them, and they intend to create more open areas. Vice Chairman Barnes indicated that there has been lengthy discussion as to giving them the liquor license that they have requested. He indicated that they have never finished their landscaping or what the original plans showed. Community Development Director Brady indicated that we would continue to light a fire under them to make any improvements. ADJOURNMENT MOVED BY NASH, SECONDED BY POLK AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO ADJOURN THE REGULAR PLANNING CONIMISSION MEETING AT 8:05 PM. BAItNES, VICE Q~AIIZMAN Respectfully Submitted ~~u~ C,/'~~n.~.~ ` Dana C. Porche' Community Development Clerk PAGE 14 - PLANNING COMMISSION MIlVUTES - FEBRUARY 6, 2002 ATTEST: ~ obert A. Brady, Secr~ Plaiuiuig Commission MINUTES PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE 183 NORTH MAIN STREET LAI~E ELSINORE, CA 92530 WEDNESDAY, FEBRUARY 20, 2002 The Regular Pluu~ing Cominission Meeting was called to order at 7:00 PM by Vice- Chainnau Bames. • The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Cominissioner Nash. ROLL CALL PRESENT: COMMISSIONERS: BARIVES, MATTHIES, POLK, AND NASH ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: WILSEY Also present were Planning Manager Villa, City Engineer O'Donnell, Associate Planner Miller, Community Development Technician Hennings, Community Development Clerk/ Typist Porche' and Deputy Attorney Miles PUBLIC CONIMENTS None. CONSENT CALENDAR Vice Chairman Barnes stated that on the Minutes of Februazy 06, 2002, page 9 of 14, 5th paragraph, the word "oumed" should be between privately and properry. He stated that in the same paragraph, next sentence, the sentence shoulcl include "a~xl G~rx~ it will imj~ct our citizens and tcixpay~rs ". MOVED BY POLK, SECONDED BY MATTHIES AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR WITH THE ADDED MODIFICATIONS AND AS PRESENTED. Minutes a. Plaiuiuig Comrnission Regular Meeting - February 06, 2002 PUBLIC HEARINGS None BUSINESS ITEMS PAGE 2- PLANNING COMNIISSION MINLTTES - FEBRUARY 20, 2002 2. Minor Design Review of a Single Familv Residence located at 408 West Heald Avenue. Plannuig Manager Villa stated that this is a Minor Design Review. He asked Community Development Technician Hennings to review the project with the Comnussion. Communiry Development Technician Hexuiings requested approval for the Minor Design Review of a Single Family Residence that is a 1,616 square foot manufactured home and a 400 square foot garage. She indicated that the project is located at 408 West Heald Avenue, between Poe and Langstaff Street, in area 6 of the Historic District. She stated that Staff and the applicant discussed ways to bring this home in compliance with the Historic Elsinore Design Standards. She indicated that the applicant has agreed to provide wood shutters that will be visible to the public right of way, and to construct a covered porch at the entranceway. She stated that the applicant has also agreed to paint the entire home using colors that are standard in the Overlay District. She indicated that the applicant would be re-roofing the home and porch with a three-dimensional slungle. Community Development Technician Hennings furthermore stated that the project does meet all the necessary requirements of the Lake Elsinore Municipal Code and the Lake Elsinore Historic Design Standards. She is recommending that the Plauniug Commission adopt Resolution No. 2002- 05 to approve the Minor Design Review based on the Findings, Conditions, and Exhibits for the construction of this project. Community Development Technician Hennings indicated that the applicant was present to answer any questions. Vice Chairman Barnes requested that discussion to be brought back to the table for any comments from the Planning Commissioners. Cominissioner Matthies stated that she was glad to see the use of additional treatments for the windows. She stated that as long as the applicant agreed on the conditions, then she was pleased with the project. Conuiussioner Polk had a question regarding whether this home was a 1985 manufactured or mobile home. Community Development Technician Hem~ings indicated that it is a manufactured home. Cominissioner Polk inquired to the history of the home. Applicant Alear Adamek of 27961 Radford Drive, Sun City, stated that he purchased the home appro~mately two years ago from a mobile home park in Sun City. He stated that he purchased the lot and decided to move the manufacture home to this site. Cominissioner Polk stated that he reviewed the plans of the project, and felt that it was very nice. Comnussioner Polk asked the Staff about Condition No. 16 on page 5 of 13. He inquired more information regarding the Galvanized Steel posts. Plazming Manager Villa indicated that the City has designed fence standards that uses a tubular support that is wrapped around wood, which makes the fence last longer. Conurussioner Polk stated that he liked the project, and had no further questions. PAGE 3- PLEINNING COMMISSION MINUfES - FEBRUARY 20, 2002 Commission Nash asked the applicant if this project would be hooked up to sewer? The applicant responded to saying "yes". Conunissioner Nash asked how wide was the bedroom. Community Development Technician Hennings indicated that the bedroom is 8 feet by 26 feet. Comnussioner Nash stated that he felt that the City would be seeing more of these homes being used on the infill lots such as this. Comrnissioner Nash stated that he would like to see that the front of the home dressed with plants, so that the home fits in well with the neighborhood. Cominissioner Nash had no further comments. Vice Chau-man Barnes stated that one of his concerns was that the home was hooked up to sewer. Planning Manager Villa stated that if the home was less than 200 feet away from the sewer connection, that the district requires the applicant to be hooked up to sewer. Furthermore, Villa indicated that these types of homes would have to be set on a permanent foundation, just like a house would, and the home would also be required to have a garage, that would ukimately look like a house. There were no further comments by the Comnussion. MOVED BY NASH, SECONDED BY POLK AND PASSED BY A 4-0 VOTE TO ADOPT RESOLUTION NO. 2002-05 A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA, APPROVING MINOR DESIGN REVIEW OF A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE LOCATED AT 408 WEST HEALD AVENUE. 3. Design Review for Residential Project No. 2001-13. Tract 29304 for Mitchell Development Inc. Pluuiiug Manager Villa requested Associate Planner Miller to review the project with the Plumiug Cominission. Associate Miller indicated that this project is a Residential project consisting of 54 lots located on a vacant parcel off of Ortega Highway. She indicated that this project is also known as Tract No. 29304. She stated that the project consists of Precise Grading Plan for Phase One, a Phasing Plan, Model Home Complex, Floor Plans, Elevauons, Fencing Plan, and Color Boards. She indicated that the 541ots would be developed into three plans. She stated that plan one is a one-story with 1,794 square feet, plan two is a two-story with 2, 048 square feet and plan three is a two-story with 2,340 square feet. She indicated that the elevauons are a mix of Spanish Mediterranean and Tradiuonal Mediterranean that will fit well with the e~cisting homes. She stated that two issues came up while reviewing the project. One, she stated is the block wall that will be built along Ortega Highway. She stated that Staff has been working with the applicant on the height of that wall. Furthermore, she indicated that Cal-Trans has jurisdiction, and they would be the ones who require the height. She stated that the wall was originally going to be 12 feet high, but has been negotiated down to 10 feet. She stated that the other issue was the potential graffiti on the wall along Grandviecv Avenue. She stated that it was suggested to the applicant that they provide a landscape buffer between the wall and the sidewalk. She stated that the homeowner would be responsible for maintaining this area. Associate Planner Miller PAGE 4- PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES - FEBRUARY 20, 2002 indicated that the walls would be required to be coated with a anti-graffiti material. Staff noticed that this Condition would need to be put into the Conditions of Approval. She stated that Staff would like to add that sentence to Condition 17, and would read all~erdls are to l~ requir~l to l~ cazred ~riuh Anti-Gra}~'ui pamz She stated that Staff also found that the small reductions that were attached to the Staff report were mislabeled. She stated that with these changes Staff recommends that the Plamiing Commission adopt Resolution No. 2002-06 and approve Residential Projec[ No. 2001-13, based on the Findings, Exhibits and subjea to the Conditions of Approval. Associate Planner Miller indicated tliat the applicant is present to answer any questions. Vice Chairman Barnes stated that there were two requests to speak regarding this project. Carole Franks, 15611 Lake Terrace Drive, Lake Elsinore addressed the Conuiussioners and Developer regarding the traffic issues. She indicated that Lake Terrace was one of the first streets that would be greatly effected by the traffic. She indicated that even now, she has noticed traffic has considerably increased with the ongoing of construction. She stated that with 54 new homes going in around that location that there would be hundreds of cars traveling daily in that location. She requested that a signal be put in at the intersection of Macy and Grand Avenue. She stated that in addition to a signal at Macy and Grand, she would like to request large yield signs that would say "yield, children playing" or "slow, children playing". She also suggested speed bumps in that area. Vice Chairxnan Barnes introduced the ne.Yt speaker. Harold Holland, 15610 Lake Terrance Drive, Lake Elsinore addressed the Cominissioners and Developer also wanted to comment on the traffic issue. He stated that he has already appealed to the State, and stated that the State has sent Cal-Trans to conduct a traffic study, which concluded that a signal was not warranted in that area. He stated that less than one block down the State put in a lefr turn lane signal. He wanted to know they could not get one in his area. He stated that there are many accidents there and is womed for his safety, as well as for others. Vice Chairman Barnes agreed with the two speakers, and stated that as more development comes to play in that area that the State will eventually have to do something about the traffic issues. He stated at this point, State does not feel that anything is warranted in that area, however City and Staff continue to work with the State on that issue. Vice Chairman Barnes requested that the applicant approach the table. Applicant Brian Tucker, Mitchell Development Inc, 31190 Pleasant Valley Road, Menifee, CA. He stated that he felt that Staff has done a good job with this project. He stated that the developers wanted something that would fit in with the area, or a litde more upscale than what is existing. Vice Chairman Barnes requested comments from the Cominissioners PAGE 5- PLANNING COMMISSION MINLITES - FEBRUARY 20, 2002 Comnussioner Nash stated that he noticed that Staff had set aside lots 24 and 25 for flood control. He asked if that is something that would be monitored? City Engineer O'Donnell indicated that there would be a temporary storm drain easement over those lots. As soon as the development to the south has been completed, then it would not be necessary for the detention basin, and those lots could be developed. Commissioner Nash stated that he liked the lay out of the homes, and that the developer did a good job with the design. He concurred with the traffic issue. He stated that the City tries to do what ever is possible to resolve the issue. He had no further comments. Coimnissioner Polk also concurs with the traffic issue. He stated that he is very concerned with the children playing in that area. He indicated that he too has been dealing with traffic issues in his area, and indicated that over the Super-Bowl weekend, someone was fatally injured due to high speeds of on coming vehicles. He stated that he would support speed bumps or signs in order to reduce the speed of on coming vehicles. Conurussioner Polk requested status of the lefr turn lane at Macy. Ciry Engineer O'Donnell indicated that Cal-Trans has been approached and they responded that at this time that a traffic signal was not warranted at Macy and Grand, and that a left turn pocket as not warranted as well. City Engineer O'Donnell suggested that Staff writes another letter to Cal-Trans, however he felt that it might be pre-mature at that is time. Comnussioner Polk expressed that he felt that it would be a good idea. Conuiussioner Polk had no fiirther questions. Comcnissioner Nash suggested that having a petidon circulated addressing this issue might be a good idea. Commissioner Matthies concm-red with the other Commissioners on the traffic issue. She asked the City Engineer O'Donnell if speed bumps or yielding signals would be allowed in the City? Ciry Engineer O'Donnell indicated that Staff would not endorse speed bumps. He suggested having Police Department monitor the area closely. He stated that in order to have signs placed in the area, the signs would need to be in compliance with the Uniform Sign Code. Comcnissioner Matthies indicated that by having traffic signs that indicating to reduce speed placed in the area, that it might help the situauon. She stated that as traffic does increase in the area, that maybe a left turn pocket could be placed in that area. Comnussioner Matthies requested clarificaaon regarding the block wall along the Highway. She asked if there would be any landscaping between the wall and the sidewalk Associate Planner Miller indicated that there would not be any landscaping in that area. She stated that this is Cal-Trans jurisdiction, and they have decided not to landscape. Comcnissioner Matthies stated that this would be like having a large Billboard to attract PAGE 6- PLANNING CONIMISSION MINLITES - FEBRUARY 20, 2002 potential graffiti. She asked if that wall would have anti-graffiti paint? Associate Planner Miller indicated that anti-graffiti would be painted on all walls and it would be part of the Cit}~s anti-graffiti program to continue to repaint if necessary. Commissioner Matthies requested clarification on the Condition No. 23, which discusses window treatments. She asked if all lots along the public right-of-way would have additional window treatments? Associate Planner Miller indicated yes. Comxnissioner Matthies asked if this would include the back lots as well and the lots that you could see coming down the Ortega Highway? Associate Planner Miller indicated that the homes against the hill would be so below the slope that you would not be able to see those houses. Applicant Tucker stated that he agreed with Commissioner Matthies and that the lots that she was discussing would be visible if coming down from the Ortega Highway. He indicated that when those houses are being built, the developer will re-assess the window dressing on those lots, and will add additional window treatments, if necessary. Commissioner Nash agreed with Comcnissioner Matthies, and wanted to clarify that what we don't want is a"row-house" look. Applicant Tucker concurred. Vice Cha;rman Barnes indicated that at this stage, the Comnussion is approving the project and some of the architectural features. He indicated that as homeowners move into these new homes, and more development occurs that Cal-Trans will soon realize that there is a traffic issue in that area. He stated that it would be the Ciry's responsibility for the maintau~uig the wall on Ortega, and on Grandview. Associated Planner Miller agreed. Vice Chairman Barnes asked if only the rear facing lots on Grandview would have gates to allow homeowners to gain access for maintenance. Associate Miller agreed. Vice Chauman Barnes asked if that would include just landscaping maintenance or graffiti as well. Plauuing Manager Villa stated that the strip of land that is in discussion was so small that it would not be feasible to have a maintenance District for that area. He stated that we have developed a solution that would include a wrought iron or tubular fencing that would blend in with the wall. He stated that this would allow the properry owner to gain access to the small-landscaped area for inaiutenance. He stated that those lots would still be under the graffiti program. Vice Chainnui Barnes wanted to be sure that Code Enforcement would continue to monitor that area. Vice Chau-man Barnes suggested that we look at the simation again in one year's time and see if landscaping that area were financially feasible versus having to constantly repaint. Cominissioner Polk suggested having oleander bushes along that wall, or something that would grow high enough to distract potential graffiti. Plaiu~iug Manager Villa stated that we could make another attempt to get in touch with Cal Trans representative to see if they would be willing to re-assess that area. PAGE 7- PLANNING CONIMISSION MINUTES - FEBRUARY 20, 2002 Vice Chainnan Barnes pointed out that the housing tract just below this development has a wall similar this one on Grandview and is landscaped, and there is curb and gutter there. He suggested that Staff find out who maintains that area. Applicant Tucker stated that landscaping on lots 1 through 4 are the Model Home Complex and will be fully landscaped and maintained by the developer. Vice Chairinan Barnes indicated that there were no further comments from the Conuiussion and requested the reading of the Resolution. MOVED BY NASH, SECONDED BY MATTHIES AND PASSED BY A 4-0 VOTE TO ADOPT RESOLUTION NO. 2002-06 A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA, APPROVING DESIGN REVIEW OF RESIDENTIAL PROJECT NO. R 2001-13, WHICH ENTAILS DESIGN USES AND DEVELOPMENT OF 54 SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL LOTS LOCATED AT ORTEGA HIGHWAY AND LAGUNA AVENUE-TRACT MAP NO. 29304 INFORMATIONAL STAFF COMMENTS NONE PLANNING COMMISSIONER'S COMMENTS Commissioner Nash commented on the followine: • He concurred with Comnussioner Matthies on the importance of keeping our City as clean as possible, especially at the location near the entrance to the Ortega Highway and Grand. • He reminded the Commission and Staff about the EDC meeting/luncheon tomorrow at the Diamond as well as the EVMWD meeting. Commissioner Matthies commented on the followine: • She inquired about the Reflections tract as to whether or not they are going to finish their curbs and gutters and possibly selling homes at another location. Associated Planner Miller indicated that she would need to research this information and get back to her as she felt that this project had been completed. • She wanted to wish A1 Wilsey and his family the best, and to keep him in our hearts and prayers. PAGE 8- PLANNING COMMISSION MINLI'TES - FEBRUARY 20, 2002 Vice Chairman Barnes commented on the followin : • He indicated that he would not be present during the first Plamiiug Conuiussion meeting in April, and therefore will need to have someone appointed to take charge of the meeting in his absence. Commissioner Polk commented on the followin : He wanted to address his concerns on the traffic issues, especially on Lincoln Avenue, where recendy someone was killed due to the speeding of cars. He stated that he has noticed a decrease in motocross bikers in that area and is pleased. He wanted to thank the Police Department for monitoring this area. He suggested that when the City has a new project, that Staff closing look at more ingenious ways to controlling the traffic issues especially motocross bikes. ADJOURNMENT MOVED BY MATTHIES, SECONDED BY POLK AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO ADJOURN THE REGULAR PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING AT 7:50 PM. BARNES,VICE CHAIRMAN Respectfully Submitted ~a.~~.~. ~~r¢~ Dana C. Porche' Community Development Clerk ATTEST: i v" obert A. Brady, Secretaryi o the Plamung Comcnission ~ MINUTES PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING CITY OF LAI~E ELSINORE 183 NORTH MAIN STREET LAI~E ELSINORE, CA 92530 WEDNESDAY, MARCH 06, 2002 The Regular Planning Commission Meeting was called to order at 7:00 PM by Vice- C1lairman $~es. The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Conmussioner Matthies. Vice Chairman Barnes requested a moment of silence for Chairman Wilsey. ROLL CALL PRESENT: CONIMISSIONERS: BARIVES, MATTHIES, POLK, AND NASH ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: WILSEY Also present were, Community Development Director Brady, City Engineer O'Donnell, Senior Planner Morita, Community Development Technician Hennings, and Deputy Attorney Miles PUBLIC COMMENTS None. CONSENT CALENDAR Commissioner Polk indicated that on the Minutes, page 4 of 8, paragraph 6, the word signal should be changed to pocket He stated on the neat sentence over, need to add the word "if" where it states he wanted to know if they could not get one in his area. He also indicated that on page 6 of 8, second to the last pazagraph, the word distract should be changed to clzsmuragaC MOVED BY MATTHIES, SECONDED BY NASH AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO APPROVE THE CONSENT C'AT.ENDAR WITH THE ADDED MODIFICATIbNS AND AS PRESENTED. 1. Minutes a. Planning Corsunission Regular Meeting - February 20, 2002 PAGE 2- PLANNING COMMISSION MINLITES - MARCH 06, 2002 PUBLIC HEARINGS Vice Chairman Barnes opened the Public Hearing at 7:05 2. Community Development Director Brady stated that this is a request for a Design Review for a 6,500 square foot Commercial Building within in Wahnart "Elsinore City Center" Shopping Center and requested Senior Planner Morita to review the project with the Conunission. Senior Planner Morita stated that this proposed project is a 6,500 square foot Commercial/Restaurant building within the City Center, Walmart Shopping Center. He stated that this is the last undeveloped area within the Shopping Center area, and is located along Grape Street, across from Denn}~s Restaurant. Senior Planner Morita indicated that the proposed building would be comprised of five suites ranging in sizes from 1,200 to 1,500 squaze feet. He stated that Starbucks Coffee Shop would occupy the largest suite. He stated that the coffee shop would have outdoor seating, tables, and a drive-through window. He also stated that the applicant would provide 36 lighted parking spaces, including two handicapped spaces, trash enclosures, and adequate landscaping. Senior Planner Morita indicated that the proposed project design would be consistent with other buildings at the shopping center to include colors, architectural materials and styles. He stated that the project should not create any major traffic hazards. He stated that Staff supports this project and recommends that the Planning Cominission adopt a Resolution, which recommends that the City Council approve Commercial Project No. 2001-03, Design Review of a Commercial/Restaurant Building within the City Center Shopping Center and Specific Plan Area based upon the Findings, and subject to the Conditions of Approval. Vice Chaimian Barnes requested that the applicant approach the table. Applicant Glen Daigle, 28991 Front Street, Temecula, CA stated that he is the Architect for the project, and is representing Oak Grove Communities. He stated that he agreed with the Staff Report and Conditions of Approval. Vice Chairman Barnes requested comments from the Comrnissioners. Comcnissioner Nash asked how were the negotiations with Walmart regarding parking? Applicant Daigle indicated that this was not an issue, and was part of the CCR's. Cominissioner Nash asked if there would be restrooms in the Starbucks Restaurant? Applicant Daigle stated "yes". Coinmissioner Nash stated that the project looked great, and had no fiuther questions PAGE 3- PLANNING COMMISSION MINUT'ES - MARCH 06, 2002 Commissioner Matthies requested if the rear of the building faced the freeway? Applicant Daigle stated "yes". Coirunissioner Matthies asked if there could be any architectural enhancements added? Senior Planner Morita stated that the design was originally submitted to the City was different than it is now. Commissioner Matthies stated that she was interested in the view from Grape Street. Applicant Daigle stated that some of the features have been added, such as a tower and arches. Senior Planner Morita stated that Denny's Restaurant was used as a template. Community Development Director Brady stated that the variations in the height would give some depth to this wall as well. Comnussioner Matthies asked about the landscaping? Applicant Daigle stated that there would be landscaping 15 feet between Grape Street and the bounduy. Vice Chairman Barnes indicated that you would not be able to see the building from the street due to the retaining wall, however you will be able to see the building from the freeway. Comnussioner Matthies stated that she likes the looks of the project, especially the drive- through. Comnussioner Polk asked if only Starbucks will use the drive-through lane or will others restaurants are allowed to use this as well? Applicant Daigle stated yes, Starbucks would be the only restaurant to use the drive-through. Commissioner Polk asked about Condition No. 7 on page 9 of 15, were it discusses the operators of the City Center Shopping Center. Senior Planner Morita indicated that this is an error and it should say Walmart Shopping Center. Cominissioner Polk also asked about Condition No. 24, where it discusses kid's rides. Senior Planner Morita stated that this could be deleted. PAGE 4- PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES - MARCH 06, 2002 Cotxunission Polk stated that this is an outstanding project that is well needed in the City. Vice Chairniau Barnes suggested that Starbucks have a signature logo on the freeway side, in addiuon to the parking lot side. Commissioner Matrhies concurred with that suggestion. Vice Cha;,-r„a., Barnes stated that it is a great project, and had no further comment, and closed the Public Hearing at 7:15 p.m. Vice Chairman Barnes requested the reading of the Resolution. MOVED BY POLK, SECONDED BY NASH AND PASSED BY A 4-0 VOTE TO ADOPT RESOLUTION NO. 2002-07, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA, RECOMMENDING THAT THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA APPROVE COMMERCIAL PROJECT NO. 2001-03, DESIGN REVIEW OF A COMMERCIAL/RESTAURANT BUILDING WITHIN THE ELSINORE CITY CENTER SHOPPING CENTER AND SPECIFIC PLAN AREA. BUSINESS ITEMS NONE INFORMATIONAL STAFF COMMENTS Communitv Development Director Bradv • He wanted to express his condolences to the Wilsey family, on behalf of the Ciry Staff, and the Community Development Department. He stated that A1 was a great asset to the community and to the Plaiuiuig Cominission. • He also wanted to advise the Coininission that the Ciry Council held a Study Session on Tuesday, March 05, 2002 on the goals of the City. • He wanted to advise the Comcnission that the Redevelopment Agency is going to hold a meeting at the City Hall on Thursday, March 7, 2002, in conference rooms A&B at 2:00 PM and is open to the public. PAGE 5- PLANNING COMMISSION MINLI'TES - MARCH 06, 2002 PLANNING COMMISSIONER'S COMMENTS Commissioner Nash commented on the followine: • He concurred with Community Development Director Brady on condolences with the Wilsey Family, for the loss of Al. Cominissioner Matthies commented on the followine: • She stated that the Headstart Program building that was dedicated this passed week is now open, and is located near the Elsinore Elementary School. • She stated that she had the pleasure to tour the Middle School located on Graham Street, which is schedule to open this coming fall. • She also wanted to espress her condolences with the Wilsey Family, and how irnich he will be missed at the Planning Commission meetings. She also indicated that he was a wonderful teacher for her, and that she learned so much from him. He will be greatly missed. Vice Chairman Barnes commented on the followin~: • He stated that he too will miss A1 very much, and how much he had learned from Al. Comcnissioner Polk commented on the followine: He concurred with the other Cominissioners on how much A1 will be missed. and expressed his condolences with the Wilsey Family. ADJOURNMENT MOVED BY NASH, SECONDED BY POLK AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO ADJOURN THE REGULAR PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING AT 7:22 PM. BARNES,VICE CHAIRMAN Respectfully Submitted PAGE 6- PLANNING COMMISSION MINLITES - MARCH 06, 2002 ~~ ~ ~~~ ~ Dana C. Porche' Community Development Clerk ATTEST: ~obert A. Brady, Secra Pluuiiiig Cominission MINUTES PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE 183 NORTH MAIN STREET LAI~E ELSINORE, CA 92530 WEDNESDAY, MARCH 20, 2002 The Regular Plamiing Cominission Meeting was called to order at 7:00 PM by Vice- Chairman Barnes. The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Comxnissioner Polk. ROLL CALL PRESENT: COMMISSIONERS: BARNES, MATTHIES, POLK, AND NASH ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE Also present were Community Development Director Brady, City Engineer O'Donnell, Associate Planner Miller, Community Development Technician Hennings, Community Development Clerk Porche' and Deputy City Attorney Miles. SELECTION OF PLANNING COMMISSION CHAIRMAN AND VICE CHAIRMt1N Communiry Development Director Brady declared the Planning Commission Chairman position open and asked for nominations. Coxnxnissioner Polk nominated Comrnissioner Barnes. Coxnxnissioner Matthies seconded this nomination. There being no other nominations, Community Development Director Brady closed the nominations for Chairman. Community Development Director Brady declared the Planning Comnussion Vice- Chairman position open and asked for nominations. Commissioner Nash nominated Comcnissioner Matthies. Commissioner Polk seconded this nomination. There being no other nominations, Community Development Director Brady closed the nominauons for Vice C~lairman. MOVED BY BARNES, SECONDED BY MATTHIES AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO NOMINATE CONIMISSIONER Br1RNES AS THE PLANNING COMMISSION CHAIRMAN AND COMMISSIONER MATTHIES AS THE PLANNING COMMISSION VICE CHAIRMAN. PAGE 2- PLANNING COMMISSION MINLITES - MARCH 20, 2002 PUBLIC COMMENTS None. CONSENT CALENDAR None MOVED BY NASH, SECONDED BY POLK AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR. Minutes a. Pluuiiug Commission Regular Meeting - March 06, 2002 PUBLIC HEARINGS Chainnau Barnes opened the Public Hearing at 7:04 2. Conditi Communiry Development Director Brady stated that this is a request for a C;UP and requested Associate Planner Miller to review the project with the Cominission. Associate Planner Miller stated that the Plazuung Cominission had previously approved a similar temporary interim Conditional Use Permit for this property on August 16, 1995. She stated that the applicants had temporarily occupied this site for about three years, selling only strawbemes. She stated that the current applicant has been there for about three years, selling strawbemes and has expanded their business to include growing and selling a variery of vegetables. She indicated that the applicant intends to construct a 364 square foot vegetable and fruit stand divided into a selling area and storage area. She stated that the applicant intends on painting the stand a barn red, with white trim. She stated that the roof ~ris covered with a dark brown asphalt shingle. Associate Planner Miller stated that the Engineering division requested the parking configuration and the applicant has complied with that. She stated that the interim use is proposed until permanent use is developed at the site. A time limit has been placed on the Condiuonal Use Permit per Condiuon No3. She stated that there is an error in the Staff Report. She indicated that the report states that the time limit is contained in Condition No. 1, however it should read Condition No. 3. She stated that the temporary interun use may be a benefit to the community and therefore recommends that the Planning Comcnission approve and adopt a resolution for Conditional Use pernut No 2001-07 for the interim Fruit and Vegetable Stand located at 805 Collier. She stated that the applicant is present for any comments or questions. Chairman Barnes requested any comments from the public. There being no comments, Chairman Bames brought the discussion back to the table. PAGE 3- PLANNING COMMISSION MINUI'ES - MARCH 20, 2002 Vice Chairman Matthies stated that she likes to see the land being put to use, and felt it was a good projece. Comnussioner Nash concurs with Commissioner Matthies. He stated that he would like to see a Condition added that would provide a public restroom facility for the workers and the public. Vice Cha;,-~„a„ Matthies asked if it could be a portable unit? Commissioner Nash iridicated yes, something that would be serviced on a regular basis. Commissioner Polk asked the applicant if all the vegetable that are to sold there, are grown there on the property, or would some of them be brought in from other areas? Applicant Juan Buenrostro of 22958 Mapes Road, Perris approached the table. He indicated that fruits and vegetables that are to be sold would be grown on the premises as well as from their other farm in Pems. He also stated that there is a public restroom currently on the premises, however it is not serviced, as recommended by Commissioner Nash. Corsunissioner Nash indicated that it would be in the best interest for the public to have a restroom provided that is maurtained on a regular basis, for sanitation reasons. Conunissioner Polk asked if paving the parking lot is necessary. Associate Planner Miller indicated that paving the parking lot is not a requirement. Comnussioner Polk suggested eactending the time to vacate from 30 days to 60 or 90 days, since the applicant will be inakuig improvements. Chairman Barnes concurred with Cominissioner Nash recommendation of the portable public restrooms. He asked if there would be some type of regulations? Community Development Director Brady stated that he wasn't aware of any at this time. He suggested that a Condition of approval be added to include the portable public restroom that would be accessible for handicap as well. Associate Planner Miller indicated that a Condition of Approve would be added. Communiry Development Director suggested modifying Condiuon No. 3 as Commissioner Polk suggested changing the 30 days to be extended 90 days. Cominissioner Nash concurred with that recommendation. Associate Planner Miller indicated that the Ciry Engineer has brought up an issue that has not yet been resolved, regarding Caltrans access approval. PAGE 4- PLANNING CONIMISSION MINLJTES - MARCH 20, 2002 Vice Chairman Matthies asked Associate Planner Miller if there was one conducted previously at this site. Associate Planner Miller indicated that she did not believe so. Conuxussioner Nash indicated that he believed that this procedure was not warranted, since this is a temporary site and not permanent. Cominissioner Polk concurred. Cominissioner Matthies stated that she did not feel that there is enough traffic at this site in order to get Cakrans involved. Community Development Director Brady stated that he understands the Commissions concerns, and that this is being brought to the Commission as a CUI', and that if this is something that the Comnussion would like to add to the Conditions, then it could be done. Comcnissioner Nash stated that he would prefer not to add the condition. Commissioner Polk concurred. Deputy Attorney Miles stated that with a five-year term and the additional Condition he recommended getting the applicants approval for the record. Applicant Buenrostro stated that he understood and agreed to all the Conditions and the adjustments made to Condirion No. 3. Chairman Barnes closed the Public Hearing at 7:18 PM. MOVED BY MATTHIES, SECONDED BY NASH AND PASSED BY A 4-0 VOTE TO ADOPT RESOLUTION NO. 2002-OS, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA, APPROVING CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 2001-07 FOR A TEMPORARY INTERIM USE, A FRUIT AND VEGETABLE STAND LOCATED AT 805 COLLIER AVENUE - A PORTION OF APN 377-120-001 3. Community Development Director Brady indicated that this is a CLJP and requested Community Development Technician Hennings to review it with the Cominission. Communiry Development Technician Hennings indicated that this is a CUP for a water kiosk for the Water Store located at 1112 West Graham Avenue. She stated that this is a PAGE 5- PLANNING COMMISSION MINLT"I'ES - MARCH 20, 2002 freestanding structure of 96 square feet that will house two window type water-vending units as well as the associated equipment. She stated that this structure would be accessible from both sides of the building, with the vehicles entering from Graham Avenue and exiting on to Lakeshore Drive. Community Development Technician Hennings stated that the City's Traffic Engineer reviewed the circulation plan and determined that there would be adequate stacking for this type of facility. She stated that the applicant would be painting the existing and proposed structure using colors that are allowed in the Historic Elsinore Overlay District, and that the applicant will be providing addirional landscaping through out the site. She stated that this is a request for a accessory structure to an e~usting building and an established business. She indicated that the proposed project is in compliance with all aspects of the development standards of the Lake Elsinore Municipal Code. Commtuuty Development Hennings indicated that Staff is recommending that the Pluuiing Cominission adopt a resolution recommending approval of GUP No. 2001-09. Community Development Technician Hennings stated that the applicant is here for any quesdons that the Commission may have. Chairman Barnes opened the Public Hearing at 7:20 PM, and requested if there was anyone who wished to comment regarding this project. Maxine Pancost at 1118 Lakeshore Drive stated that she is womed about the traffic in the area of the project. She stated that she is not against the project, just concerned with the traffic, especially with the school near-by. Chairxnan Bames brought the discussion back to the table for comments from the ComTnission. Commissioner Polk stated that he is concerned with the lighting in the area. He stated that he only knows of one light in the window of the project. He also stated that there seemed to be a group of young locals that like to hang out in the area of the project and indicted thaz this may discourage potential customers. Maxine Pancost concurred with Cominissioner Polk's comments. Vice Chairman Matthies suggested security lights or motion detection lights in the area. Commissioner Polk stated that he felt that it is a good business, and agreed that there could be a traffic issue. He stated that if the area had better lighting, it might help the situation. He also recommended to Staff that this could be an engineering or safety issue that could be lookedinto. Commissioner Nash stated that with addiuonal lighting, it might help the situation. He stated that he did not know how we could modify what was already there. He stated that he felt it was a good idea. Applicant Mary Venerable at 29400 3'~ Street, Lake Elsinore stated that she is the owner of the property. She stated that there is a light over the current vending machine and there will PAGE 6- PLANNING COMMISSION MINLJTES - MARCH 20, 2002 be additional lights added to where the additional machines will be installed. She stated that she has advised the group of young locals who hang out in the area that construction will begin soon, and therefore can no longer hang out in this area. Commissioner Nash recommended that a sign be posted in the area regarding loitering in the area. Vice Chairman Matthies concurred with Conurussioner Nash's recommendations. She indicated that this could help with the traffic situation as well. She stated that other than that, she felt that this is a good project. Chairinan Barnes stated that any problems with loitering really has no bearing on what the Commission is approving. He stated that this project might actually deter loitering in this area. Community Development Director Brady stated that the Engineering Division is working with the situauon. He stated that the speed limit in the area is 25 MPH. He indicated that the crosswalk is to the East of this project. He also indicated that the Sheriffs Department has been enforcing the speed limit in the area. Chairman Bames closed the Public Hearing at 733 MOVED BY POLK, SECONDED BY NASH AND PASSED BY A 4-0 VOTE TO ADOPT RESOLUTION NO. 2002-09 A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA, APPROVING CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 2001-09 FOR A DRIVE- THROUGH WATER KIOSK FOR THE WATER STORE LOCATED AT 1112 WEST GRAHAM AVENUE. BUSINESS ITEMS 4. Adoption of G.I.S. format of Zoning Map as the official Zoning Map for the City of Lake Elsinore. Communiry Development Director Brady indicated that this a Zoning Map developed by the City Staff and that Community Development Technician Heiuiiugs will review it with the Coixuiussion. Community Development Technician Heruiings stated that Staff is very pleased to have this Zoning Map. Community Development Director Brady stated that this is a business item to formally recognize the map. He stated that the City intends on using this map for zoning inforxnation. He stated that the map will be sold over the counter at the City Hall. PAGE 7- PLANNING COMNIISSION MINU'I'ES - MARCH 20, 2002 Cha;rr„an Barnes requested any comments from the Comnussioners. Vice Chairman Matthies stated that the map looked great. Comtnissioner Nash concurred with Vice Chau-man Matthies. Community Development Director Brady stated that the Engineering Division is currently working on a more detailed booklet level format that may eventually be on the City's website. Chairniau Barnes asked for the reading of the resolution. MOVED BY MATTHIES, SECONDED BY POLK AND PASSED BY A 4-0 VOTE TO ADOPT RESOLUTION NO. 2002-10 A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA ADOPTING A G.I.S. FORMAT OF THE ZONING MAl' AS THE OFFICIAL ZONING MAP FOR THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE. INFORMATIONAL NONE STAFF CONIMENTS Community Development Director Bradv • He wanted to congratulate Chairman Barnes and Vice Chairman Matthies. . He indicated that he would not be present at the ne~rt Pluuiing Coxmnission of Apri16`h. PLANNING COMMISSIONER'S CONIMENTS Commissioner Nash commented on the followine: • He stated that there would be the Golf tournament at Menifee Lakes Golf resort on May 10th. • He expressed his congratulauons to Chairman Barnes, and Vice Chairman Matthies. PAGE 8- PLANNING COMMISSION MIlVLTTES - MARCH 20, 2002 Commissioner Matthies commented on the followine: • She stated the Chamber is hosting the Golf tournament on May 10`h, and lunch will follow. • She inquired the status of the water tower project on Graham Avenue. Associate Planner Miller indicated that she has spoken with the City's Staff personnel who handles the pemuts, and it appears that there could be some issues with the structure. Community Development Director Brady indicated that Foamworks will be constructing the tower. • She also stated that Hugh Walker a local Historian died, and that memorial services will be held this coming Saturday, March 23~. She asked whom she needed to contact in order to find a building for the memorial. Community Development Director Brady suggested contacting the Community Services Department at the City Hall. • She also wanted to thank the City for their donation of two $25.00 checks to recycle base science fair projects held by the Lake Elsinore Unified School District Science Fair. Chairman Barnes commented on the followine: • He wished to thank everyone, however wished that it were under different circuxnstances. Comrnissioner Polk commented on the followinQ: He wanted to thank the City's Communiry Service Department for putting up the handrail in the Community Cultural Center. He also wanted to congratulate Chairman Barnes and Vice Chairman Matthies. ADJOURNMENT MOVED BY POLK, SECONDED BY MATTHIES AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO ADJOURN THE REGULAR PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING AT 7:49 PM. PAGE 9- PI.ANNING COMMISSION MINLI'i'ES - Mt1RCH 20, 2002 Respeafully Submitted ~~(~,~.~. l • / ~~ ~ Dana G Parche' Community Development Clerk ATTEST: Robert A. Brady, Secretary Planning Coiimussion ~ MINUTES PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE 183 NORTH MAIN STREET LAI~E ELSINORE, CA 92530 WEDNESDAY, APRIL 17, 2002 The Regular Plauniug Commission Meeting was called to order at 7:00 PM by Chairman Barnes. The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Coxnmissioner Nash. ROLL CALL PRESENT: COMMISSIONERS: BARNES, MATTHIES, POLK, AND NASH ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE Also present were Community Development Director Brady, Community Development Technician Hennings, and Deputy City Attorney Miles. PUBLIC COMMENTS None. CONSENT CALENDAR Cominissioner Polk indicated that on the March 20, 2002 Minutes, page 2 of 9 item #2, second paragraph, ninth line the word zeeth needs to be deleted. MOVED BY POLK, SECONDED BY MATTHIES AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR WITH THE ADDED MODIFICATIONS AND AS PRESENTED. 1. Minutes Plauning Commission Regular Meeting - March 20, 2002 PUBLIC HEARINGS Churmau Barnes opened the Public Hearing at 7:04 2. PAGE 2- PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES - April 17, 2002 Community Development Director Brady stated that this is a request for a CLTP and requested Commutury Development Technician Hennings to review the project with the Commission. Community Development Technician Hennings indicated that this is a request for a CLTI' for the sale of alcoholic beverages & outdoor seating at the Outhouse Campground. She stated that it would be in conjunction with the existing campground, store and barbecue area. She stated that the applicant would sell steaks that can be cooked on the outside barbecue. She indicated that they will also sell prepared side dishes and prepackaged sandwiches. Community Development Technician Hennings stated that there would be seating in the saloon up to 42 people and seating on the outside deck up to 30 people. She indicated that the applicant has applied for a Class 40 liquor license. She stated that this allows that sale of beer for on site consumption or packaged for offsite consumption. She stated that the applicant has indicated that this will be a family orientated environment. She stated that it is anticipated that the majority of the patrons would be camper's staying at the campground. Community Development Technician Hennings indicated that Staff has recommended that the hours of operation be limited to 8AM to midnight. She stated that this is pertauiuig to Condition No. 11. She stated that the request complies with all development requirements of the LEMC. She is recommending that the Plazuung Commission adopt Resolution No. 2002-11 to approve the CUP 2002-O1 based on the Findings, Conditions, and Exhibits for the construction of this project. Chainnan Barnes opened the public hearing at 7:10 PM and requested any comments from the public. There being no comments, Chairman Bames requested that the applicant approach the table for questions. Applicant John Outhuijse introduced luinself, his wife, daughter and son. He indicated that they have purchased The Outhouse in July. He stated that The Outhouse used to be called Kay's Campground. He stated that his daughter Melissa manages the campground along with all of their other properties in the area. He indicated that he would like to see the lake area cleaned up, but does not want to see it changed. He stated that he does not want the look of Temecula or Orange County. He stated that the Plaiuiiug Comnussion has done a good job of keeping Lake Elsinore rural looking. He stated that his family has been working very hard to clean up the area and that he has nouced other fainilies are also starting to clean up their area as well. He mentioned that some of the f2milies in the area are low-income residents. He stated that he has let these families use their water for their lawns and the area is starting to shape up. He stated that they are trying to have the area family oriented. Applicant John Outhuijse indicated that he wishes to sell beer at The Outhouse. Applicant John Outhuijse feels that for safety purposes he would much rather have the campers and residents purchase the beverages at The Outhouse verses having to leave the area. He also stated that in addition to beer, they will be selling packaged steak and soda in cans only, no glass. He stated that he agreed that the hours of operation could be from 8:00 AM until 12:00 AM, however he would prefer that the hours be extended to 2:00 AM, on Fridays and Saturda~s only. He stated that he is willing to work with the Plaiuiing Comnussion on what ever is recommended. PAGE 3- PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES - Apri117, 2002 Chairman Bames requested any comments from the public. Their being no comments from the public, discussion was brought back to the table. Coi7unissioner Nash indicated that the applicant has done a nice job and a definite improvement. He stated that he agrees to the hours of operation, and to the selling of beer on the premises. He stated that ABC might have some concerns, however should there become issues, that the Commission has the right to review it and possible revision to the C.'[JI'. He stated that the Cominission hopes that the business is successful. Vice Chairman Matthies concurred with Cominissioner Nash's comments. She stated that she too has noticed the improvements in the area. She stated that for safery purposes she likes the idea of the selling of beer on the premises. She asked the applicant if wine would also be sold. The Applicant indicated that only beer would be sold at this time. He stated that he has applied for a Class 40 license, which enables him to only sell beer, not wine. Vice Chairman Matthies concurred with the changes of the hours. However indicated that ABC might have some issues. Commissioner Polk concurred with the other Commissioners on the possibility of the ABC issues. He indicated that he likes the idea of steaks being sold. He indicated that he liked the idea of keeping the area a family oriented atmosphere. He stated that he was concerned with the hours of operation being extended, however would not object to the project. Chairman Barnes asked Communiry Development Director Brady how long is the time period for the CLJP. Community Development Director Brady indicated that at the present time, there is not a time limit unless it becomes non-operational for a six-month period, then it becomes revoked. Chairman Barnes asked Community Development Technician Hennings about a ramp for the Handicap access into the building. Community Development Technician Hexuiings indicated that the ramp for the Handicap is located towards to rear of the building. Cha;rn,a„ Barnes stated that he has no objections to the extended hours of operation on Friday and Saturday nights. He agreed that ABC might have some objections to the hours, but othercvise liked the project. Community Development Director Brady wanted to verify that the applicant agreed to the Conditions of Approval and to the modification to Condition No. 11 which extends the hours of operation unti12:00 AM on Friday and Saturday only. Chairman Barnes indicated that was correct PAGE 4- PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES - Apri117, 2002 Chainnan Barnes closed the Public Hearing at 7:20 PM. MOVED BY MATTHIES, SECONDED BY POLK AND PASSED BY A 4-0 VOTE TO ADOPT RESOLUTION NO. 2002-i1, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING CONIMISSION OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA, APPROVING CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 2002-01 ALLOWING OUTDOOR SEATING AND THE SALE OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES AT THE OUTHOUSE, INC. LOCATED AT 32310 RIVERSIDE DRIVE (APN 379-100-016) BUSINESS ITEMS NONE INFORMATIONAL NONE STAFF COMMENTS Communitv Development Director BradX • He wanted to advise the Commission that City Council has started the process of the budget for the upcoming fiscal year. He indicated that City Council had a Study Session on April 16`~, and that City Manager Watenpaugh did present the budget to the City Council. He stated that the Council members would have the opponuniry to go through the budget and will have several other study sessions sometime in May. He stated that the revenues for the Ciry are higher than anticipated. He stated that there are some other issues that need to be dealt with and addressed. He stated that he would announce to the Comxnission when the next study sessions will be held. • He indicated that the dedicauon to the Skate Park went well and the kids seem to enjoy the park and have spoken highly of it. • He also wanted to congratulate Community Development Technician Hennings on her completion of certificate program in Plazu~ing and Environmental through the University of California. PLANNING COMMISSIONER'S COMMENTS Vice Chaiiman Matthies commented on the followine: She wanted status on the Water Tower that is to be located on Graham. She indicated that there are constant delays and wanted some clarification. Community Development Director Brady stated that these types of projects are unique and should be going PAGE 5- PLANNING COMMISSION MINU'I'ES - A~ri117, 2002 through the plan check process. He stated that he would find out the status of the Water Tower's process and let everyone know. Vice Chainnan Matthies indicated that she saw a Water Tower in San Diego County, and really liked the look of it. She stated that these types of cell towers are being used more frequently. • She also wanted to comment on the Reflections project located off of Grand Avenue. She indicated that the builder is building homes in Wddomar yet is not putting up any models, and is having potential home buyers look at the models off of Grand Avenue. She stated that at the last Plaunuig Cotxunission meeting she had mentioned this to the Planner of the project Linda Miller and was waiting to hear a response to the matter. Community Development Director Brady stated that he would have Linda Miller look into this and would get back to her. • She also wanted to comment on the bus service that will be used at the Elsinore Middle School on Graham, which is currently undergoing the final stages of rehabilitation. She indicated that she went to a meeting at the Lake Elsinore Unified School District office where it was decided that the buses would be utilizing the arch driveway. She wanted to express her concerns with a possible traffic issue. Community Development Director Brady stated that there are signs posted of the 25mph zone in the area, which should help elinvuate the potential traffic issues through that area. Chairxnan Barnes stated that the residents in the area will have to realize that during the before and afterschool time their can be a potential traffic issue. Cominissioner Polk commented on the followin : • He concurred with Vice Chairman Matthies on the status of the Water Tower. • He wanted to thank Staff for adding the speed bumps to Lincoln Avenue, just before Rice Canyon Elementary School. • He commented on the Skate Park and how well it is doing and how much it is appreciated. Commissioner Nash commented on the followine• He wanted to congratulate Communiry certificate. He wanted to let everyone know of the Diamond Club at 11:30 Development Technician Hennings on her EDC luncheon to be held on April 18 at the Chairman Barnes commented on the followinQ: He asked what type of electrical work is being conducted on Diamond Drive. Community Development Director Brady stated that he does not feel that this is something that the Ciry is currently working on, as it may be SCE project. He stated that he would find out the status and let the Commission know. He wanted to express his concern on what is noticed over the weekend at the Granite Homes site project. He indicated that he noticed that there were a bunch of motor bikes PAGE 6- PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES - Apri117, 2002 using the landfill area. He indicated that this is a protected area. Communiry Development Director Brady stated that the bigger issue would be the MSHCP of the land. He stated that we could let the Police Department know of this. He commented on the statement that the applicant John Outhuijse had given with regards to the City becoming another Orange County. He wanted to express that the many of our citizens work in Orange County, because that is where the majority of the jobs are. He stated that what would be our ultimate goal would be to have the services that Orange County can provide, so that the citizens of Lake Elsinore could work in their own city. ADJOURNMENT MOVED BY POLK, SECONDED BY NASH AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO ADJOURN THE REGULAR PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING AT 7:38 PM. BARNES, CHAIRMAN Respectfixlly Submitted zX~~ ~ ~~C'~n ~ Dana C. Porche' Community Development Clerk ATTEST: Ylazuiing Commission MINUTES PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE 183 NORTH MAIN STREET LAKE ELSINORE, CA 92530 WEDNESDAY, MAY 01, 2002 The Regular Plam~ing Commission Meeting was called to order at 7:00 PM by Chairman Barnes. The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Commissioner Nash. ROLL CALL PRESENT: CONINIISSIONERS: BARNES, MATTHIES,.AND NASH ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE Also present were Community Development Director Brady, Senior Planner Morita Community Development Clerk Typist Porche', and Deputy City Attorney Miles. PUBLIC COMMENTS None. CONSENT CALENDAR MOVED BY NASH, SECONDED BY MATTHIES AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO APPROVE THE CONSENT rAT ENDAR AS PRESENTED. 1. Minutes Plazuiiiig Cominission Regular Meeting - April 17, 2002 PUBLIC HEARINGS Chairman Bames opened the Public Hearing at 7:04 2. Conditional Use Permit 2001-06 and Minor Design Review M 2001-07 Construction of Wireless Antenna at Caltrans Park and Ride Communiry Development Director Brady stated that this is a request for a CLII' and Minor Design Review and requested Senior Planner to review the project with the Cominission. PAGE 2- PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES - MAY 1, 2002 Senior Planner Morita stated that this project is a Minor Design Review and CUP to allow construction of a wireless antenna faciliry to be located at the existing Cakrans Park and Ride, which is located at the corner of Central Avenue and the I-15 Freeway ramp, near Dexter Avenue. He indicated that the applicant is Verizon Wireless and they will be leasing a 370 square foot area. He stated that the antenna would be 65 feet in height. Senior Planner Morita indicated that there are two applications before the Comnussion. He stated that one is a Minor Design Review to consider the overall design of the project, and the other is a C.'UP, which is required since the proposed 65-foot antenna exceeds the 45-foot height maximum permitted in the G2 zone. He stated that Staff supports the overall review of the project. He indicated that the wireless antenna would be stealthed as a cypress tree, which is also called a mono-cypress. He stated that in addition to the mono-cypress, two live cypress trees would be located ne~rt to the concrete pad area. Senior Planner Morita requested the Coiiunission to refer to Attachment 3. He stated that Attachment 3 is a Xerox copy of the brochure that was provided by Verizon, which shows how the mono-cypress looks. He indicated that Attachment 4 is a computer simulation of how the mono-cypress would look with the two live cypress trees ne~rt to it. Senior Planner Morita stated that Staff believes that the proposed stealthing of the 65-foot wireless antenna as a mono-cypress and planting of two live cypress tress are reasonable solutions to screening the wireless antenna from public view along the freeway. He stated that wrought Iron fencing would be provided within the mono-cypress and five equipment cabinets for safety and securiry purposes. He indicated that the project would not disrupt the day to day activity of the Park and Ride. He stated that the mono-cypress would be located in a presently vacant area, outside the paved surfaces of the Park and Ride. Senior Planner Morita requested the Planning Cominission adopt the attached resoluuons to approve the CUI' 2001-06 and the Minor Design Review 2001-07 based on the Finding, Conditions, and E~ibits far the construction of this project. Chairman Barnes requested any comments from the public. Their being no comments from the public, Chairman Barnes requested the applicant to approach the podium Applicant Jeremy Siegel of Verizon Wireless at 4300 Latham Street, Suite 103, Riverside CA mdicated that the mono-cypress is a new design concept. He indicated that all the antennas are stealth, and are a much better design as opposed to the mono-palms. He stated that one was recently constructed in the Ciry of Oceanside, and was well received. Mr. Siegel had no furlher comments. Commissioner Nash asked the applicant about Condiuon No. 10, if they would agree to have other carries install more cabinets? Mr. Siegel indicated that it would not be an issue, as there are two cavities in the center of the mono-cypress, allowing other carries to attach additional cabinets, if necessary. He indicated that the cabinets would be flush mounted inside the tree, and not as visible as the cabinets on a mono-palms. Community Development Director Brady stated that we would encourage the other carriers to try locate within the existing facility rather than having another antenna placed near the mono-cypress tree. PAGE 3- PLANNiNG COMMISSION MINLJ"fES - MAY 1, 2002 Coirunissioner Nash stated that on Attachment No. 3, one of the trees looked great, however the other tree did not. He stated that the one that is to be used should have a natural look to it, as opposed to the others on the brochure. Senior Planner Morita stated that on Condition No. 10, the applicant is to construct the mono-cypress with tapering to the top, however the design is also subjected to the approval by the Community Development Director. Commissioner Nash asked if that the look of the mono-cypress has the abiliry to be adjusted? Senior Planner Morita stated yes. Vice Chairuiazi Matthies asked about the wrought iron fencing, and how it would look? Senior Planner Morita stated that originally the applicant proposed chain link fencing or barb-wire, however he felt that wrought iron fencing has a nicer look to it. Vice Cha;,-r„a„ Matthies asked if the wrought iron fencing would be black. Mr. Siegel indicated that they use a color that would match the surrounding area. Vice Chairman Matthies stated that the project looked good, however should be well blended with the surrounding area. Chairman Barnes asked if there would be landscaping around the fenced area? Senior Planner Morita stated no. Chairman Barnes asked if the Caltrans antennas would protrude from the foliage? Mr. Siegel stated that it is ut~iown at this time how the design of Cakrans antennas would look. Chairman Barnes asked Senior Planner Morita if there could be an adjustment made to Condition No. 10 that would address the appearance of the Caltrans antennas. Senior Planner Morita stated that it would be possible to change the verbiage of Condition No. 10 to include that the cabinets shall be painted a color matching the surrounding area. Chairman Barnes asked about an agreement for maintenance of the two live cypress trees that surround the mono-cypress. Mr. Siegel indicated that currendy there is no irrigauon around the trees, and that it would be their responsibility to maintain the two live cypress trees. PAGE 4- PLANNING CONIMISSION MINLI'TES - MAY 1, 2002 Comcnissioner Nash stated that the cypress tree is drought resistant. Chairman Barnes asked if the trees should die, would the applicant replace them Communiry Development Director Brady stated that should the trees die, it is the responsibility of the applicant to replace the trees. He suggested that Condition No. 11 be modified to include that should the trees die, that they would be replaced with cypress tress or ones similar in height and shape. Chainnui Barnes had no further quesuons. Their being no fiuther quesuons, Chairman Barnes closed the Public Hearing at 7:18 PM MOVED BY NASH, SECONDED BY MATTHIES AND PASSED BY A 3-0 VOTE TO ADOPT RESOLUTION NO 2002-12, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA APPROVING CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 2001-06, TO ALLOW 65-FOOT VERIZON MONO-CYPRESS AT CALT'RANS PARK AND RIDE. MOVED BY MATTHIES SECONDED BY NASH AND PASSED BY A 3-0 VOTE TO ADOPT RESOLUTION NO 2002-13, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING CONIMISSION OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA APPROVING MINOR DESIGN REVIEW M 2001-07, DESIGN REVIEW OF VERIZON MONO-CYPRESS AND RELATED IMPROVEMENTS AT CALTRANS Pt1RI~AND RIDE BUSINESS ITEMS NONE INFORMATIONAL NONE STAFF CONIMENTS Communitv Development Director BradX • He wanted to remind the Comrnission of the Mayor's Prayer Breakfast on May 2, 2002 at the Diamond Stadium at 8:00 AM. Chairman Barnes stated that he did not receive any notice of this meeting. He advised the Commission that the Plazuiing Cominission Application period is now open and will run through May 29, 2002. He stated for those who are interested, we encourage them to apply. PAGE 5- PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES - MAY 1, 2002 • He also stated that in order for a Plamiiug Cominission meeting to take place, it would be necessary for all three Cominissioners to attend the meeting. Deputy Miles stated that a meeting with only two Cominissioners could take place, however it would be best to have all three. • He wanted to express his gratitude for Cominissioner Polk's work and dedication to the Plauning Coimnission, and wish him well and that his presence would be missed by all. PLANNING COMMISSIONER'S COMMENTS Vice Chairman Matthies commented on the followine: • She stated that she enjoyed working with Commissioner Polk and wished him well. Commissioner Nash commented on the followine: He wanted to wish Conunissioner Polk well on his new ventures, and expressed his gratitude for his service as a Plamiing Cominissioner. He also wanted to remind the Comtnission of the Golf Tournament on May 10, 2002. Chairman Barnes commented on the followine: • He eacpressed his grautude for Commissioner Polk, and wished him well. • He asked Community Development Director Bi-ady the status of Railroad Canyon. Communiry Development Director Brady indicated that currendy there is a SCE sub- contractor doing the work on Railroad Canyon. He stated that the sub-contractor has obtained permits from the City. He stated that the work that is conducted under the bridge is within the Caltrans right-of-way. He stated that the Ciry would require the portion under the bridge to be repaved • He asked Community Development Director Brady if there are any plans of expanding the Park and Ride? Community Development Director Brady stated that his has not heard of any information regarding expansion. ADjOURNMENT MOVED BY NASH SECONDED BY MATTHIES AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO ADJOURN THE REGULAR PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING AT 7.25 PM. BARNES, CHAIRMAN PAGE 6- PLANNING COMMISSION MINLITES - MAY 1, 2002 Respectfizlly Submitted ~~ ~ /~~,~ ~ Dana C. Porche' Community Development Clerk ATTEST: rRobert A. Brady, Secretary~ the Placuung Comnussion MINUTES PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING ' CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE 183 NORTH MAIN STREET LAKE ELSINORE, CA 92530 WEDNESDAY, MAY 15, 2002 The Regular Plamiuig Commission Meeting was called to order at 7:01 PM by Chairniui Barnes. The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Commissioner Nash. ROLL CALL PRESENT: COMMISSIONERS: ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: BARIVES, MATTHIES, AND NASH NONE Also present were Community Development Director Brady, Associate Planner Miller, City Engineer O'Donnell, Community Development Clerk Typist Porche', and Deputy City Attorney Miles. PUBLIC CONIMENTS NONE CONSENT CALENDAR MOVED BY NASH, SECONDED BY MATTHIES AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDARAS PRESENTED. 1. Minutes Plaiuiuig Cominission Regular Meeting - May 1, 2002 PUBLIC HEARINGS NONE BUSINESS ITEMS Minor Design Review of a Single Family Residence Located at 315 North Rilev Street. PAGE 2- PLANNING COMIvIISSION MINLJ`fES - MAY 15, 2002 Community Development Director Brady stated that this is a request for a Minor Design Review of a SFR and requested Associate Miller to review it with the Cominission. Associate Planner Miller stated that this SFR is located at 315 North Riley within the Historic Overlay District. She stated that the project site is on a 9,000 square foot parcel. She indicated that the applicant plans to construct a 1,510 square foot residential dwelling and a 500 square foot garage. Associate Planner Miller stated that the proposed dwelling is a pre-fabricated manufactured home. She indicated that the applicant has incorporated some elements of the Folk Victorian architectural style per the requirements of the Historical Elsinore Architectural Design Standards. She stated that the elements include changing the vertical siding to horizontal siding, adding a porch with cohitxuis, and increasing the size of the shutters. Associate Planner Miller stated that the garage is placed at the rear of the lot to add to the typical historical look. She indicated that the applicant had previously stated that they would construct a 6 foot high block wall, however has since then indicated that they would prefer to construct a City Standard 6 foot wood fence or a 6 foot block wall. She stated that therefore Staff is recommending changing Condirion No. 16 to read either the Ciry's Standard su~-foot wood fence or a six-foot decorauve block wall. She indicated that with that change Staff is recommending that the Pluuiing Cominission adopt the Resolution and approve the Minor Design Review for the construction of the 1,510 square foot residential dwelling and 500 square foot garage to be located at 315 North Riley Street, based on the Findings, E~ibits and Conditions of Approval. Chairman Barnes requested any comments from the public. Their being no comments from the public, Chairman Barnes requested comments from the Commission. Comrnissioner Nash stated that he did have any specific questions. He did mention that the City is starting to see more manufactured homes in the area. Vice Cha;,-r„a., Matthies concurred with Conuiussioner Nash. She stated that she liked the idea of the design. Chairman Barnes concurred with the other Cominissioners on the design and had no specific questions. Cominissioner Nash asked the applicant if they had read the Conditions of Approval and agreed to them. The applicant indicated yes. With no fiirther questions, Chainnan Barnes requested Communiry Development Director Brady to read the resolution. Community Development Director asked the applicant if they agreed to the changes on Condition No. ib. The applicant agreed. PAGE 3- PLANNING COMNIISSION MINLITES - MAY 15, 2002 MOVED BY MATTHIES, SECONDED BY NASH AND PASSED BY A 3-0 VOTE TO ADOPT RESOLUTION NO 2002-14, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF LAI~E ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA APPROVING MINOR DESIGN REVIEW FOR A 1,510 SQUARE FOOT SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE AND A 500 SQUARE FOOT DETACHED GARAGE LOCATED AT 315 NORTH RILEY STREET - APN 374-071-010 INFORMATIONAL NONE STAFF CONIMENTS Community Development Director Bradv • He wanted to remind the Cominission that the City is still accepting applications for the Planning Comrnission. Chairxnan Barnes asked if the City had received any applications yet. Community Development Director indicated that a few have been submitted. • He also wanted to congratulate Deputy Miles for his success at the golf tournament. • He wanted to inform the Cominission of the Study Session for the yearly budget would take place on June 5. He stated that it would be an all day event and would let the Comnussion know of the place and time. • He also wanted to advise the Conuxussion that Staff has initiated the process to prepare the Overlay District for the Country Club Heights. He indicated that this would be a lengthy process and the first in a series of Study Sessions may be scheduled for the June 5, 2002 Planning Coxnxnission Meeting. He also stated that it would be preferable to have a full Conunission to complete the process. PLANNING COMMISSIONER'S COMMENTS Vice Chaii•inui Matthies commented on the followine: She stated that she was glad to hear that the Historical Society is able to use the basement of the Cukural Center. Cominissioner Nash commented on the followine: • He wanted to thank Staff for the great success of the Chamber Tournament. Churmau Barnes commented on the followine: • He had no comments. PAGE 4- PLANNING CONIMISSION MINUTES - MAY 15, 2002 ADTOURNMENT MOVED BY NASH SECONDED BY MATTHIES AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO ADJOURN THE REGULAR PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING AT 7:15 PM. Bt1RNES, CI IAIRMAN Respectfully Submitted ti~~;~. ~ ~~.~ ~ Dana C. Porche' Community Development Clerk ATTEST: ~ obert A. Brady, Secn Plumiug Commission MINUTES PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE 183 NORTH MAIN STREET LAI~E ELSINORE, CA 92530 WEDNESDAY, JLTNE 05, 2002 The Regular Plamzuig Comixussion Meeting was called to order at 7:05 PM by Chairman Barnes. The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Commissioner Nash. ROLL CALL PRESENT: COMMISSIONERS: ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: BARNES, MATTHIES, AND NASH NONE Aiso present were Community Development Director Brady, Planning Manager Villa, Associate Planner Miller, City Engineer O'Donnell, Community Development Technician Hennings, and Deputy City Attorney Miles. PUBLIC COMMENTS NONE CONSENT CALENDAR MOVED BY NASH, SECONDED BY MATTHIES AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDARAS PRESENTED. 1. Minutes Pluuiing Corrunission Regular Meeting - May 15, 2002 PUBLIC HEARINGS Chairman Barnes opened the Public Hearing at 7:05 PM. Libertv SPA No. 3. General Plan Amendment (GPA) No. 2002-02, Zone Chan e~ (zc~ No. 2002-02, Industrial Project No. 2002-01, and Conditional Use Permit (CUP, No. 2002-02. PAGE 2- PLANNING COMMISSION MINLT'I'ES - JLJNE 05, 2002 Community Development Brady indicated that this is a SPA and a GPA to include a ZC for an Industrial Project and CUP in the East Lake Specific Plan area, and requested Plamiing Manager Villa to review it with the Cominission. Plamiiug Manager Villa stated that this item is five applications to include one Negative Declaration. He stated that Liberty (East Lake~ Specific Plan is being amended to remove 12.7 acres of vacant land from the Specific Plan to the Cit~s General Plan designauon with a designation of Limited Industrial with a Zoning designation of Limited Manufacturing. Plazining Manager Villa stated that resulting from this is an Industrial Project No. 2002-O1 to be up for Design Review for the construction of an industrial building approacimately 40,900 square feet on 3.5 acres of the 12.7 acres. He stated that the applicant proposes to include 11,500 square feet of landscaping to include 92 parking spaces. He indicated that Staff has analyzed the proposed land use, the four legislative acnons and has deemed them acceptable. He indicated that the CCJI' application the ability to have outdoor storage and display of materials and structures of Vertigo. He stated that Staff has felt that the design is acceptable and is recommending that the Plauning CoiYUnission adopt the Plauning Commission resolutions to include the Negative Declaration, the Liberty SPA, General Plan amendment, the Zone Change, Industrial Project and CUI' with the recommendation to the City Council for approval and the recommendation to the Plazuiing Corsunission adopt a resolution to the CLIP based on the Findings of Award and the Exhibits A through G. Applicant Alan Young 21010 Ventura Blvd requested clarification on Condidon Number 9 of the Conditions of Approval regarding the block wall. He indicated that the block wall is an option at this point, and may or may not be built. He also wanted clarification on item number 25 of the Conditions which discusses park-in-lieu fee and also item number 27 where it discusses Capital Improvements. He also wanted clarificauon on Condiuon number 39, and item number forry of the Conditions where it discusses the developers contribution of $303,000.00 for traffic improvements to the Specific Plan. Applicant Alan Young stated that $303,000.00 was high. He requested that on Condition number 40 that the dollar amounts be eliminated and changed to, to be determined. He also questioned Condition number 44 where it discusses an Alquis-Priolo study. He stated that he felt that the site was outside of the Alquist-Priolo area and was not necessary. He asked clarification on Condition number 52 where it discusses Hydrology and Hydraulic Reports, prior to issuing a pemut. He asked that the wording be changed to "if necessary" by the Riverside County Flood Control District. Lastly he asked clarification on Condition number fifty-eight, where it discusses FEMA elevation certificates. He asked if that is a surveyor's report or a something from another governmental agency. With no further statements from the Applicant, Chainnui Barnes requested any statements from the public for or against the project. Hearing no further requests to address the Vertigo project, Chairman Barnes called for comments from the Cominission. Plannuig Manager Villa stated that Condition Number 9 is standard for a CCJI'. Vice Chairman Matthies asked if we could add the verbiage, "if used for storage." Plauiung Manager indicated that the applicant applied for a CLTI' for outdoor storage, which would allow the applicant to build a block wall for outdoor storage and display. Chairman Barnes asked what would be the duration of the temporary time limit. He asked that the applicant address that question. PAGE 3- PI..ANNING CONIMISSION MINLJTES - JUNE 05, 2002 Pete Iverson, 29885 Second Street, Lake Elsinore, CA Business Manager of Vertigo stated that there is no intention of storing anythuig outside at this time. He stated that one of the products that Vertigo produces is Air Beam and Air Beam Shelters. He stated that these shelters are lazge and will need to be assembled outside over a period of several days. He stated that this should clarify what the outdoor activiry would be. He stated that they do not e~rtent on storage anything outside. Chairman Barnes asked if the wording could be changed from "displayed" to "testing." Pete Iverson stated that this would be acceptable. Community Development Director Brady stated that the CIIP is for outdoor storage. He stated that if outdoor storage is not going to be used, then the CUP is not necessary and could be eliiniuated. He also stated that should outdoor storage become necessary at a late time, the CLJI' could always be brought back and the applicant would need to come back for a public hearing at that time. Chairmar, Barnes asked if the applicant would be in violation with the City's code regulation regarding the testing of the products. Community Development Director Brady stated that this is temporary and not done on a regular basis, and therefore should not be in any violation of the Ciry's code. Coxnmissioner Nash suggested that the block wall be addressed in one year's ume. Community Development Director Brady also wanted to advise the applicant that if they decide to drop the CLJI' at this time, and late decide to apply for it again, then they would be required to pay the costs for the application of the CC1P. Community Development Director Brady suggested that Condirion Number 9be elimiuated since there would not be any storage yard. Plam~iiig Manager Villa suggested that Condition Number 8 is deleted as well. Community Development Director Brady asked the applicant what the length of time would be necessary for the temporary display. Mr. Iverson stated that the time is determined by the size of the shelter. He stated that the large shelters could be up for two weeks, but normally the smaller ones are up for just several days. Community Development Director Brady suggested that we could have a Condiuon that would address the limit amount of time for the temporuy displays. Comtnissioner Nash felt that we could not control that time issue. Mr. Iverson indicated that they are expanding the business, and moving to the new facility will enable them to increase their product line. Plazuiuig Manager Villa addressed Condition Number 25 where it discusses the applicant would pay for park-in-lieu fees. He stated that it is necessary to include this Condition based on the City's Ordinance for the construction of parks. He believed that the fee is ten cents per square foot. PAGE 4- PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES - JLJNE 05, 2002 Vice Chairman Matthies asked if the applicant was in agreement with this fee. Community Development Director Brady stated that the applicant must agree to this, as it is a Ciry Ordinance. Chairman Barnes asked City Engineer O'Donnell to address Condition Number 27. City Engineer O'Donnell stated that Condition Number 27 is a generic Condition that makes the applicant aware that he has to pay the Capital Improvements Fees and plan check fees. City Engineer O'Donnell stated that Condition Number 39 is necessary since it may be necessary to have a left turn pocket added on to Corydon. He stated that Condiuon Number 40 are part of an existing specific plan that had specific off site improvements designated. He indicated that the $303,000.00 is an estimated cost for the improvements recommended for the development of this specific area. He asked the applicant how many condominium buildings were going to be developed. Applicant Mr. Young said that there would be 21 units constructed ranging from 1,600 to 4,000 square feet for a total of 65,000 square feet. City Engineer O'Donnell stated that the fees as indicated before would be for the entire building and not just the industrial building. He suggested that the City charge the applicant for the traffic mitigation fee at .71 cents per square foot for the industrial site, and pay $832.00 per unit for the condomuuum buildings. Community Development Director Brady stated that the condominiums are industrial condoxsunium s and not residential and should be calculated at the industrial square footage. Comcnission Nash stated that this would reduce the fees from $303,000 to approximately $28,000 in fees. Applicant Young stated that realisucally it would be around $140,000. He stated that this figure would be mare in line with what they normally see, and would agree to this. Chairman Barnes asked Communiry Development Director Brady if this would be allowed. Community Development Director Brady indicated yes. He stated that the $303,000 was just an estunated share amount. He stated that the Condition is still necessary however it can be changed ass discussed. Commissioner Nash stated that there could be some major adjustments to this plan considering to what is happening in this area. Applicant Young stated that he appreciated the changes that were made regarding the industrial traffic mitigation fee however wanted to clarify that in most cases where it mvolves street improvements, they usually get credit for the amount of dollars that are put into the improvements. City Engineer O'Donnell stated that you only got credit for travel lanes, and not for curb, gutter, sidewalk and landscaping. Community Development Brady stated that if they are going to do the improvements to the street that is within the system for the traffic miugation fee, then yes, you would get credit for the travel lanes and the median as well. City Engineer O'Donnell address Condition Number 44 where it discusses the earthquake fault. He indicated that there are some earthquake faults in the area of Palomar, and therefore it may be PAGE 5- PLANNING COMMISSION MINLJTES - JUNE 05, 2002 necessary for a soil engineer to investigate the area. He stated that a soil engineer would be necessary anyway, and it should not be much of a cost to the applicant unless the soil engineer finds a fault in the area of the project site. City Engineer O'Donnell stated that Condiuon Number 52 discusses a Hydrology and Hydraulic Report. He indicated that the wording in this Condition could be changed to "if necessary." Coxrunissioner Nash asked the applicant if he was aware of Conditions Number s 50 and 51 regarding the elevations and fill? Applicant Young indicated that they are aware of the Conditions and no adjustments would be necessary. City Engineer O'Donnell stated that Condition Number 58 discusses the applicant to provide a FEMA elevation certification. He indicated that this is a standard Condition that is used when there is construction in a flood plain. He indicated that it is a form to be completed by a surveyor or registered engineer. He stated that the purpose of the certificate is to determine that the pad is above the base flood elevation. Chairman Barnes asked the CoiYUnission if there were any fiuther comments. Commissioner Nash asked the applicant if he is aware of the elevation and the filling requirements and or restrictions for that parcel. He stated that Staff has done a very good job putting it together and looks like a good projece. Vice Chairman Matthies indicated that she has no further comments. Churman Barnes concurred, and felt that it looked like a good project and closed the Public Hearing at 7:40 PM. Community Development Director indicated that there are several resolutions to read however wanted to remind everyone that Condition Numbers 8t and 9 would be elinunated and that Condition Numbers 25, 27, and 39, the applicant wanted clarification on. He stated that Condition Number 40 would be amended to the wording "the developer shall pay the Ciry adopted Traffic Miugauon Fee". He stated that Condition Number 52 would be amended to say that the Ciry Engmeer "if necessary." MOVED BY NASH, SECONDED BY MATTHIES AND PASSED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO ADOPT A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA, RECOMMENDING TO THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE ADOPTING OF MITIGATED NEGATIVE DECLARATION NO. 2002-01 FOR SPECIFIC PLAN NO. 93-3, AMENDMENT NO. 3, GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT NO. 2002-02, ZONE CHANGE NO. 2002-02 INDUSTRIAL PROJECT NO. 2002-01. PAGE 6- PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES - JUNE 05, 2002 MOVED BY NASH, SECONDED BY MATTHIES AND PASSED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO ADOPT A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA, RECOMMENDING TO THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE APPROVAL OF SPECIFIC PLAN NO. 93-3, AMENDMENT NO. 3 FOR THE REMOVAL OF PARCELS WITHIN APPROVED LIBERTY SPECIFIC PLAN SPECIFICALLY DESCRIBED AS APN 370-030-011, 370-050-002, AND 370-050-012. MOVED BY MATTHIES, SECONDED BY NASH AND PASSED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO ADOPT A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA, RECOMMENDING TO THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE APPROVAL OF GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT NO. 2002-02 TO AMEND THE LAND USE DESIGNATION OF PARCEL SPECIFICALLY DESCRIBED AS APN 270- 030-O11, 370-050-002, AND 370-050-012 FROM RESIDENTIAL-2 DESIGNATION UNDER THE LIBERTY SPECIFIC PLAN TO LIMITED INDUSTRIAL UNDER THE GENERAL PLAN. MOVED BY NASH, SECONDED BY MATTHIES AND PASSED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO ADOPT A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA, RECOMMENDING TO THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE APPROVAL OF ZONE CHANGE NO. 2002-02 CHANGING THE ZONING DESIGNATION OF PARCELS SPECIFICALLY DESCRIBED AS APN 370-030-011, 370- 050-002, AND 370-050-012 FROM RESIDENTIAL -2 DESIGNATION UNDER THE LIBERTY SPECIFIC PLAN TO LIMITED MANUFACTURING UNDER THE ZONING ORDINANCE. MOVED BY MATTHIES, SECONDED BY NASH AND PASSED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO ADOPT A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA, RECOMMENDING TO THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE APPROVAL OF DESIGN REVIEW FOR INDUS'I'RIAL PROJECT NO. 2002-01, TO BE LOCATED ON CEREAL STREET- APN 370-030-011. Chairman Barnes opened the Public Hearing at 7:50 PM. Design Review for Commercial Project No. C 2001-02 and CIJP No. 2001-08, for an Automated and Self Service Car Wash Facility-APN 379-131-010 and 379-131-012. Community Development Director Brady stated that this is a Design Review for a Car Wash facility, and requested the project manager Linda Miller to review it with the Coimivssion. PAGE 7- PLANNIN~ COMMISSION MINLJ'rES - JUNE O5, 2002 Associate Planner Miller stated that this is a Design Review for car wash facility that consists of two separate open structures. She indicated that one would have an automated car wash and seven would be self-services bays. The second structure will have twelve vacuum drying bays. She stated that the main structure would be made of split face concrete block with two smooth face bands used as accents. She indicated that there is a correction on what Staff thought that the applicant was requesting. She indicated that the applicant would like the building to be structured with split face and not smooth face. Associate Planner Miller indicated that the vacuum dry structure would be structured of the split face block coluimis supporting weather treated wood trellis-rype open roof. She stated that the split face block will be a beige color and the accent stripes will be a contrast color of beige. She stated that the roof color would be a red-orange color concrete tile. Associate Planner Miller indicated that the applicant would provide 24,000 plus square feet of landscaping. She stated that the applicant would be required to berm the landscape setback areas along Riverside Drive and Joy Street. She stated that the CLJP is required for all car wash uses due to issues such as traffic impacts. She stated that Staff feels that this issue has been resolved by restricting access off Joy Street, which was a requirement of Caltrans. She stated that another potential issue was the visual impact that the building may have on the surrounding uses. She stated that the applicant has been working with Staff and has agreed to change the colors, and materials. She indicated that with these revisions to the facility, Staff can recommend that the Plaiuiing Comnussion adopt a Resolution recommending that City Council approve C 2001-02 and adopt a Plaiuiiug Commission Resolution approving CUP 2001-08 for a Car Wash facility located at Riverside Drive and Joy Street. Associate Planner Miller indicated that she received a call questioning the issues of ambient light, noise and traffic. She stated that the call was from David Barren, 504 Quail Drive, which is a street near the proposed facility. She stated that Staff feels that Condition No. 5 mitigates the ambient light quesuon. She stated that the traffic is not an issue because of only one access off Joy. She indicated that she spoke with the applicant and the applicant's intentions are to have the facility open 24 hours. She stated that at this time, Staff is not recommending setting any specific hours for operation of the car wash. She stated that she feels that if noise does become an issue, then Staff would have it be brought back to the Plamiuig Commission for a decision on whether to have specific hours for operation. She stated that the applicant is present to answer any questions that the Commission may have. Applicant Ed Konopacki of 1680 Conway Drive, Escondido CA., stated that he has read and agreed to the Conditions. With no further statements from the Applicant, Chairman Barnes requested any statements from the public for or against the project. Hearing no further requests to address the Car Wash project, Chairman Barnes called for comments from the Cominission. Commission Nash asked the applicant if they had discussed the project with the Water District, and discussed fees, and the street improvements. The applicant indicated yes. Vice Chairman Matthies asked about Condition Number 6. She stated that in the Staff report it states that the structure would be coated with an anti-graffiti material per Condition Number 6, yet the Condition did not mention this. She also stated that all wood would be weather treated, yet the same Condition did not mention that as well. PAGE 8- PLANNING COMMISSION MINUfES - JiJNE 05, 2002 Associate Planner Miller stated that there is an error in the Staff report. She stated that the report should have indicated that the anu-graffiti and weather treated materials per Condiuon Number 7 and not 6. Vice Chairman Mattlues also asked if Staff has any recommendation regarding the noise issue. Associate Planner Miller stated that at tlus time the only recommendation would be to allow the applicant to have the facility open 24 hours. She stated that should the noise ever become an issue, then it would be brought back to the Cominission for further actions. Chairman Barnes concurred with Vice Churman Matthies concems with the potential noise issue. He also had concerns with the Staff repon where it discusses the location of the facility. He stated that the Staff report indicates that the only other car wash facility is located at the southern end of the City. He indicated that there is another car wash at Saint Charles. Community Development Director Brady stated that this is correct. Cha;rn,an Barnes asked if there are any concerns that there is another car wash one block away. Community Development Director Brady stated that the Staff report could be amended. Chairn,an Barnes also asked questions regarding Condition Number 7 where it discusses the wood roof should be weather coated. Associate Planner Miller clarified that there ue two buildings. One would have a tile roof, and the other would have weather coated material roof. Chairman Barnes asked the applicant if the restrooms outlined on the plans would be for Staff only. The applicant stated yes. Commission Nash asked the applicant if there would be any attendant. The applicant stated yes, there would be someone there four to six hours a day. Chairman Barnes closed the Public Hearing at 8:05 PM, and requested the readings of the resolurions. MOVED BY MATTHIES, SECONDED BY NASH AND PASSED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO ADOPT A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA, APPROVING CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 2001-08 FOR A CAR WASH FACILITY LOCATED AT RIVERSIDE DRIVE AND JOY STREET APN 379-131-010 & 379-131-012. MOVED BY NASH, SECONDED BY MATTHIES AND PASSED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO ADOPT A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA, RECONIMENDING TO THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE APPROVAL OF COMMERCIAL PROJECT NO 2 2001-02 FOR A CAR WASH FACILITY LOCATED AT RIVERSIDE DRIVE AND JOY STREET APN 379-131-010 & 379-131-012 PAGE 9- PLANNING COMNIISSION MINUTES -,~i TNE 05, 2002 BUSINESS ITEMS Studv Session to Discuss the Prenaration of an Overlay District for the Countv Club Heights Area of the Citv. ~ ~ Community Development Director Brady stated that the item before the Commission was discussed by the City Council on March 5, 2002 to discuss the development issues that are associated with the Country Club Heights area of the City. He indicated that the Zoning Maps before the Commission define the study area. He indicated that Countxy Club Heights is a unique development of the town with history associated with it as well. He stated that the Country Club Heights area was subdivided in the twenties. He stated that the lot sizes were smaller than today's standards. He stated that some of the lots were as small as 25 feet. Communiry Development Director Brady stated that the streets were cut into sides of the steep hills and are narrow and winding. He indicated that there has been an increase of interest of residential development in the area. He stated that people who reside in the area have expressed their concerns with the roads, possibly getting them paved, or providing other standards for the area. He stated that in many cases the lots have to be combined in order to have them buildable. He also indicated that the majority of the area is not on any sewer system, and septic syseems need to be installed. Communiry Development Direaor Brady stated that the Zoning Maps show that the majority of the zoning is a multi family residential, and some secnons are for commercial uses as well. He indicated that the general boundaries of the area identified on the map are Lakeshore, Riverside, Strikland and Chaney Street. He indicated that this is the outline of the study area as Staff has defined it. He indicated that this is the area that has the unique requirements or development standards that may be appropriate to look at developing an overlay district or a specific plan for the area. He stated that currently in the General Plan it is identified as a future Specific Plan. He stated that the Pluuiing Conuiussion has a vital part at looking at the area. Community Development Director Brady stated that he received a letter from a properry owner in the area, and that the Commission should have received a copy of that letter. Communiry Development Director Brady stated that he did respond to the letter as well as Councilman Buckley. He stated that just to give the Coitunission some statistics of the area which is interesting, he stated that the area covers about 502 acres within the study area that we area looking at. He stated that about 102 acres of that is dedicated to road right-of-way. He indicated that there are 3,568 parcels in that area. He stated that the average lot size is about 4,800 square feet. He stated that the Ciry is currently conducting a slope analysis that is not yet available. He stated that the Zoning Map does identify the lot lines. He stated that the aerial map shows the overlay as to where the lots are and the street right-of-ways as well. Community Development Director Brady stated that one of the concerns is the majority of the area does not have sewer service. He stated that the zoning itself needs to be taken a look at as in terms of what kind of development is anticipated. He stated that the area has utility service, and the water district serves a large portion of the area. He indicated that there is some gas service, cable, and electricity and telephone as well. He stated that the area has spectacular views and scenic area. PAGE 10 - PLANNING COMMISSION MINLTTES - JUNE 05, 2002 Community Development Director Brady stated that the intention of this study session is to get ideas of the Commission and answer questions that the Commission may have. Cha~rman Barnes asked if most of the parcels are privately owned. Community Development Brady indicated that the Water District own 136 parcels, and 2 which have been deeded to the Ciry. Staff and the Commission discussed the possibilities of expansion of the roads, where there are slope easements, the imponance of the traffic patterns, what is acceptable to today's standards and the problem areas off Hwy. 74. Community Development Director Brady used examples of other cities with the same situation as Country Club Heights, and indicated that development is allowed on the narrow lots. He was concerned with what would be the legalities, a way to do it, the costs involved and the practicality. Staff and the Cominission discussed the possibilities of making the parcels buildable, desirable, and yet marketable. It was also discussed on the sanitation issues, and the choices that are currently available. Community Development Director Brady indicated that there could be other systems that are available, would they be allowed under the City's codes, and would bonding be allowed. Suggestion was made by Jackie Finerolie, 23663 Peppery Street, Murrieta, CA stated that it appears that the major concern would be the lot size in the Country Club Heights area, not having enough adjacent lot sized to be buildable. She wanted to know if the City could a sponsor a program where owners of the lots could exchange with one and other. Thomas Buckley, Councihnui/resident of Lake Elsinore concurred with the idea of developing a neighbor that is desirable. He stated that the property owners in the Country Club Heights area, have been trying to negotiate deals with one another already. He indicated that a large portion of the parcels are delinquent. He stated that the Counry did a tu~ sale a few years ago. He stated that the sale of the lots were between $1,000 to $1,500.00 and the Spring lots were between 5,000 to 6,000, which he stated surprised everyone. Comxnissioner Nash indicated that might be the general market. Councilman Buckley stated that concerning putting lots together should be made free and simple. He indicated that currently it would cost a few hundred dollars. He stated that it should be just to walk into the City Hall, fill out a form, have your parcel numbers, and to comply with the map act. He stated that it would actually come up as a Council item under the warrant list. Community Development Director Brady stated that currendy it does not need to go to Council. Thomas Buckley stated that this would be a way to get more people to move into the Country Club Heights area. He indicated that people prefer the front side of the hill for the view. He stated that the backside of the hill would be for those who might be interested in getting extra property to put in a house. He indicated that when it comes to design standards, building on pilings, so that you not have to grade, or having house terracing. He indicated that in order to get septic, pernussion be obtain through the Water District, and very expensive. He stated that there are other ways, besides leaching fields, such as individual water treatment plants. Community Development Director Brady indicated that AQNID might have an issue with that. Chairman Barnes concurred with that. Councilman Buckley stated that we want to encourage custom homes. He stated that the house would need to be worth the money that would be spent to build on the land. He stated that the City would need to put in strict design standards. He indicated that the MSHCP is interested in the backside of Country Club Heights. He indicated that the PAGE 11 - PLANNING CONIMISSION MINLI'TES - JLINE 05, 2002 problem might go away. Chairman Barnes asked who was interested. Councilman Buckley stated that the County for habitat purposes. Staff brought up the discussion regarding geology. Could it be possible to identify the percentages of slopes? Staff stated that if that study showed that some slopes and lots are just undevelopable, could the City make that finding, and then create open space areas. Deputy Attomey Steve Miles indicated that if there is an existing lot and it is unbuildable, nothing that the City has done as a regulatory measure, then we could call it what it is. He stated that if it is not buildable, and that would get incentives. He stated that a person who is landlocked has a right to gain access to the properry. He stated that it would be over the adjacent lots. He stated that at the direction of Council, the City could take steps to do the tide work and would be a necessary step. Coxnxsussioner Nash asked if there were a consensus of this study session. Community Development Director Brady stated that he feels that all agree to Single Family is appropriate. He stated that fees should be addressed, in terms of the in-lieu fees, and the combining of the lots. He stated that the Overlay District would be required, if we want design standards. He stated that another option would be a new zone for the area. Councilman Buckley stated that a view-shed ordinance should be included as well, which should be included in Country Club Heights and possibly the entire City. Communiry Development Director Brady stated that problems with a view shed would be difficult to enforce. DeputyMiles concurred. Resident John King stated that he owns lots in the Counry Club Heights area, and would hope to build a home someday. He stated that he is a contractor in Orange County. He stated that the idea of a one way street would be a good idea, and have drive ways go in at an angle, which would help get onto the lots. He stated that it would require a larger lot. Communiry Development Director Brady asked if a consultant could be utilized to develop this, rather than go through the Staff. Chau-mui Barnes stated that it is a big job, and possibly, a consultant would be a good idea. He indicated that it would depend on what Council would want to be done, or what the Cominission would want to recommend to the Council. He stated that the purpose of the study was just to get an idea of what is to be done. Chairman Barnes asked if there were any further comments regarding the study session. No fi.irther comments were made. INFORMATIONAL NONE STAFF COMMENTS PAGE 13 - PLANNING COMIvIISSION MINUTES - JUNE 05, 2002 a~~.c~. ~' . ~~?.~ ` Dana C. Porche' Commurury Development Clerk ATTEST: ~ -/ ~obert A. Brady, Secr~ Planning Comcnission PAGE 12 - PLANNING CONINIISSION MINUTES - JLJNE 05, 2002 Communitv Development Director BradX • He wanted to remind the Conunission that the EDC lunch is on June 13. • He stated that the bids are in for the aaffic signals for Collier, Central and Riverside and the Ciry should be awarding at the Ciry Council meeting June 25. The signal should be operational around September or October of this year. • He stated that there would be a follow up study session regarding the yearly budget for 2002-2003. PLANNING COMMISSIONER'S COMMENTS Vice Chairman Matthies commented on the followinQ: • No Comments Cominissioner Nash commented on the followine: • No Comments. Chairman Barnes commented on the followine: • No Comments. ADJOURNMENT MOVED BY NASH SECONDED BY MATTHIES AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO ADJOURN THE REGULAR PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING AT 9:10 PM. BARNES, CHAIRMAN Respectfully Submitted MINUTES PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE 183 NORTH MAIN STREET LAI~E ELSINORE, CA 92530 WEDNESDAY, jCJNE 26, 2002 Chairman Barnes called the Regular Plauning Conuiussion Meeting of June 19, 2002 to order at 7:02 PM. Due to the lack of Quorum, the meeting was cancelled, and a Special Meeting was held on June 26, 2002. Cha;rn,an $arnes called the Special Planning Comnussion Meeting to order at 7:01 PM. The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Commissioner Barnes. ROLL CALL PRESENT: COMMISSIONERS: ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: BARNES, MATTHIES, AND NASH NONE Also present were: Community Development Director Brady, Plaiu~iug Manager Villa, Associate Planner Miller, City Engineer O'Donnell, Community Development Technician Heiuungs, and Deputy City Attorney Miles. PUBLIC COMMENTS None CONSENT CALENDAR MOVED BY NASH, SECONDED BY MATTHIES AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR AS PRESENTED. 1. Minutes a. Plaiu~iug Comcnission Regular Meeting - June 5, 2002. PUBLIC HEARINGS 2. Design Review for Residential Project No. R 2001-10 Chairman Barnes opened the Public Hearing at 7:06 PM. PAGE 2- PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES - JUNE 26, 2002 Commucuty Development Director Brady indicated that this is a request for Design Review of a Residential Pro~ea consisting of an 8-unit apartment comples. He asked Associate Planner Miller to review the request with the Cominission. Associate Planner Miller stated that this is a Design Review for an 8-unit apartment complex located on Graham Street. She indicated that the applicant intends on operating the facility as a senior only complex. She stated that Staff has conditioned the project as such per Conditions 2 and 3. She indicated that the complex consists of a 6,824 square foot two- story building. She noted that the first floor would contain three two-bedroom units and one three-bedroom unit. She stated that the second floor would have four one-bedroom units. Associate Planner Miller stated that there would be 11 parking spaces for the tenants, and the facility is planned to be gated. She stated that there would be both private and common spaces included in the plan. Associate Planner Miller indicated that the issues were the efficiency of the square footage of the private outdoor space, the deficiency of parking and allowing senior only facility. Staff felt that the deficiency of the Outdoor Open Space has met and exceeds the Common Open Space requirements. She stated that the deficient parking was a concern, however the applicant will operated the facility as a senior only complex and one space of parking per uiut would be acceptable. Associate Planner Miller stated that the last issue was due to the allowance of a senior only facility. She stated that this issue was researched and found that the owners are allowed to designate a project to a seniors only, per the Housing of the Older Persons Act of 1995. Associate Planner Miller stated with these issues resolved Staff recommends that the Plannuig Commission adopt a Resolution to approve Residential No. 2001-10 based on the Findings, E~ibits and subject to the Condiuons of Approval. Chairman Barnes opened the floor for questions pertaining to this matter. Kim Quon, 506 West Graham Avenue, Lake Elsinore is the Architect at Studio 7 Architecture and Plamzuig. He stated that prior to the Plazu~ing Coirurussion meeting he had asked what were the in-lieu fees discussed in Condition No. 25. Community Development Director Brady indicated that Staff would need to establish fees per unit for the in-lieu fees, similar to the fees that were established on the apartments at Grape Street. The applicant agreed. Chainnan Barnes requested any further questions from the public. There being no fiuther requests to speak, Chairinan Barnes brought the discussion back to the table. Comtnissioner Nash stated that the project was very well designed, and a good addition to the Historical Downtown Area. PAGE 3- PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES - JLTNE 26, 2002 Chairman Bames concurs with Comnussioner Nash's comments on the design. He asked the applicant if he had read and agreed to the Conditions of Approval. The applicant stated yes. Cha;rman Barnes asked Community Development Director Brady if the applicant were to provide a written confirmation of their intent to designate the facility as a senior citizen facility before the Corsunission votes on this project. Community Development Director Brady stated no, that this is part of the Conditions of Approval. Cllairman B~es requested to modify Condition No. 6 where it discusses air conditioning units. He requested that the phrase Wall ar Wvafatv be added to the sentence. Chairman Barnes also requested to modify Condition No. 7 where it discusses exterior lighting. He requested that the sentence be changed to read all light fixtures shall match the architectural sryle of the building, and shall l~ ap~iroz¢l by tl,~ CDD. He also requested to modify Condition No. 31 where it discusses security lighting. He requested to add the word exterior to the sentence. Chairman Barnes asked what the purpose was for Condition No. 52 where is discusses Hold Hun~less Agreement, and was it necessary. Associate Planner Miller indicated that this is a standard Condition that is used for Commercial projects. Communiry Development Director Brady indicated that this Condition was developed by the CityAttorney's Office for the apartinents on Grape Street, specifically for projects within the Redevelopment area. Applicant Kim Quon asked the Comxnission if this Condition is necessary for their project. Communiry Development Director Brady asked the Deputy Ciry Attorney if the words if applicable could be added to the Condition. Deputy City Attorney indicated yes. Applicant Kim Quon stated that Condition No. 52 does not seem to identify what sort of lawsuits that this Condition would apply to. Commissioner Nash indicated that he does not recall seeing this Condition on other projects before. Associate Planner Miller indicated that the City has not had that many apartment projects PAGE 4- PLANNING COMMISSION MINUI'ES - JLINE 26, 2002 Community Development Director Brady asked the Deputy Ciry Attorney Miles if we could leave out the Condition. Deputy City Attorney Miles stated yes. Chairinau Barnes concurred with Community Development Director Brady on having this Condition removed under General Conditions. Vice Chairman Matthies concurred with having the Condition removed. She asked the applicant, since this is a senior housing facility would there be an elevator or will there only be stairs as shown on the plans. Applicant Kim Quon indicated that the second floor of the compleac is all 1-bedroom units and the fu-st floor is all 3-bedroom units. He stated that there would not be an elevator in the complex. He stated that the project is geared toward the more active seniors, starting at the age of 55 and over. Vice Chairman Matthies had no further questions. There being no Iiirther comments, Chairman Barnes closed the Public Hearing at 728 PM. MOVED BY BARNES, SECONDED BY MATTHIES AND PASSED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO ADOPT A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF LAI~E ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA, RECOMMENDING TO THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE APPROVING DESIGN REVIEW OF RESIDENTIAL PROJECT NO. 2001-10, AN EIGHT (8) iTNIT APARTMENT COMPLEX LOCATED AT 138 GRAHAM STREET - APN 378-151-028 WITH THE FOLLOWING REVISIONS TO CONDITION NO. 6, NO. 7, NO. 31 AND DELETE NO. 52. 06. ALL ROOF MOUNTED OR GROUND SUPPORT AIR CONDITIONING UNITS OR OTHER ME~HANICAL EQUIPMENT INCIDENTAL TO DEVELOPMENT SHALL BE ARCHITECTURt1LLY SCREENED OR SHIELDED BY LANDSCAPING SO THAT THEY ARE NOT VISIBLE FROM NEIGHBORING PROPERTY OR PUBLIC STREETS INCLUDING GRAHAM AVENUE AND THE REAR ALLEY WAY. ALL SCREENING SHALL BE SUBJECT TO THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR OR DESIGNEES APPROVAL. WALL OR WINDOW AIR CONDITIONERS SHALL NOT BE ALLOWED. PAGE 5- PLANNING CONIMISSION MINL1'TES - JUNE 26, 2002 07. ALL EXTERIOR ON-SITE LIGHTING SHALL BE SHIELDED AND DIRECTED ON-SITE SO AS NOT TO CREATE Gi.ARF. ONTO NEIGHBORING PROPERTY AND STREETS OR ALLOW ILLUMINATION ABOVE THE HORIZONTAL PLANE OF THE FIXTURE. ALL LIGHT FIXTURES SHALL MATCH THE ARCHITECT`URAL STYLE OF THE BUILDING AND SHALL BE APPROVED BY CDD. 31. ANY EXTERIOR LIGHTING LOCATED ON-SITE SHALL BE ORNAMENTAL AND SI-IALL BE SHOWN ON BUILDING PLANS, SUBJECT TO THE APPROVAL OF THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR OR DESIGNEE, PRIOR TO ISSUANCE OF BUILDING PERMIT. 52. ~~TV / '`T AT 1~rT A !`TTl IAT l'1D nDll!` L'L'TTAT!' ~!`ATATC T TL*T' /~rT aj ! ...u ~L'L'T ~~~ia !`T ~ T iv C i~~va L`L` t ~ ' ` ' ) i I y ~+~+ ~... /~+~a + v~Ta ~a+ v vA~ iv TT D C T ~ ,T7)T l1VL C !1D L ~ A! 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I7I~ TTTTCT ~ TATT LICL C[1 l ZSI_I lD LS n ~IC~ I l1T T p ~ 11: IC~ TA ~ ( ~ ~ITJS^1~2DGL iTJ ' ' T ' ` ' ~iZZT~ II\DL. ~ .~.v a ~~v a~aa L va./a DT~TT u ~ CC TL T L / T [/ . 3. Design Review of Residential Project No. 2002-02 for the conshuction of four dunlexes located on Graham Street. Cha;rn,an $~es opened the Public Hearing at 729 PM. Community Development Director Brady indicated that this is a request for Design Review of a Residential Project consisting of four duplexes to be located on Graham Street. He asked Community Development Technician Hennings to review the request with the Commission. PAGE 6- PLANNING COMMISSION MINLJTES - JLTNE 26, 2002 Community Development Technician Hem~ings indicated that this is a Design Review for four duplexes to belocated on Graham Street between Chestnut and Main Street. She stated that the properry is within Area 5 of the Downtown Historical Overlay District. She indicated that each unit is 3 bedrooms with 1,004 square feet. She stated that there would be four covered parking spaces for each duplex. She indicated that Condition No. ll was provided, which states that the applicant agrees to record in the deed a shared access agreement for all lots. She noted that the project meets all minir„um requirements of the Lake Elsinore Municipal Code (LEMC~ and the Lake Elsinore Architectural Design Standards. Community Development Technician Hennings stated that Staff recommends that the Plauning Commission adopt the Resolution for the Residenrial Project No. 2002-02 based on the Findings, Exhibits and the Conditions of Approval. Chaii•inan Barnes asked if anyone wished to speak for or against the projea. Applicant Steven Mann, 23434 Bristol Way, Murrieta, indicated that he represents La Cresta Development. He stated that they have owned the properry for 10 years, and is anxious to get started on this project. Chainnau Barnes requested any further questions from the public. There being no furtlier requests to speak, Chauznui Barnes brought the discussion back to the table. Chairman Barnes asked the applicant if each unit would be individually owned. The applicant stated yes. Chairman Barnes asked the applicant who would be responsible for the maintenance of the y~d~. The applicant indicated that each unit would have their own separate area of yard, which the owner would be responsible for maintaining, to include the planters. Chainnan Barnes indicated that on Condition No. 12 it discusses exterior air conditioning units. He stated that the plot plan did not show where the air conditioners would be. The applicant indicated that there would be air conditioners. Chairman Barnes stated that there are certain Conditions that would apply to air condirion unit, such as being ground mounted, not visible from the streets, and must be screened. The applicant understood. Chan-man Barnes asked Staff if the City standards for fences are galvanized steel posts and concrete for the vertical supports. He stated that on the plans, it shows that they are all wood. The applicant stated that he is aware of the Condition. PAGE 7- PLANNING CONIMISSION MINLJTES - JLJNE 26, 2002 Churman Barnes noted Condition No. 25, where it discusses replacing any damaged concrete curb and sidewalk. He indicated that the curb and sidewalk are already damaged. The applicant indicated that the sidewalk in the front of the project would be removed in order to add the driveways to the units. He stated that the sidewalks would then be replaced once this is completed. Cha;,-r~,a„ Barnes had no further commerns. Vice Chairman Matthies commented on handicap accessibility. She also stated that she prefers not to see blank walls. Corcunissioner Nash stated that he likes to see projects developed at the in-fill lots. He stated that this is a good project. He indicated that he prefers not to see carports with cabinets in them because he knows how they will look after time. He stated that he would prefer seeing closed structures. Cominissioner Nash stated that the applicant is meeting the ininimuxn requirements. Coirunissioner Nash concurred with Vice Chairman Matthies regarding possibly window dressing in the rear and sides of the unit. He stated that the front of the unit looks great. He stated that the project is great for the area. Cosrunissioner Nash had no fiuther comments There being no fiuther comments, Chairman Bames closed the Public Hearing at 7:40 PM. MOVED BY NASH, SECOND BY MATTHIES AND PASSED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO ADOPT A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA, APPROVING DESIGN REVIEW OF RESIDENTIAL PROJECT NO. 2002-02 FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF FOUR DUPLEXES LOCATED ON GRAHAM STREET. (APN 373-024-003, -004, -005, & -006) BUSINESS ITEMS None INFORMATIONAL PAGE 8- PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES - JLTNE 26, 2002 Community Development Director Brady indicated that due to July 4 holiday and the lack of agenda items ready for consideration, the regular scheduled Plauning Cominission Meeting of July 3, 2002, would be cancelled. The next regular Pla.miuig Coirunission Meeting will take place on July 17, 2002. STAFF COMMENTS Community Develooment Director Bradv commented on the followins~ • He noted that there would be a Study Session Held at the City Hall on June 28. • He stated that the Housing Element was approved. • He stated that the City Council approved the Car Wash project and the Industria12001- 02 (Vertigo) project at the meeting of June 25, 2002. • He also advised the Coimnission that the interviews for two new Plannuig Commissioners have begun. He recommended to Chairman Barnes to prepare questions for the applicants. PLANNING COMMISSIONER'S CONIMENTS Vice Chairman Matthies commented on the followine: • She commended staff on a job well done. • She apologized for her delay at the last Pluuiing Cominission Meeting. Commissioner Nash commented on the followinQ: • He thanked staff for doing a great job on all the projects. Cha;,-~„an Barnes commented on the followinQ: • He stated that the City Council Meeting on June 25 did not go as well as he had hoped for. He hopes that all issues will be resolved. ADJOURNMENT MOVED BY NASH SECONDED BY MATTHIES AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO ADJOURN THE REGULAR PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING AT 7:50 PM. PAGE 9- PLANNING COMMISSION MINiJTES - JLTNE 26, 2002 Respectfully Submitted d~'//.'/~1,G~ r ( °~~~'~d Dana C. Porche' Communiry Development Clerk ATTEST: ~ obert A. Brady, Secret o the Plamiuig Conunission MINUTES PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE 183 NORTH MAIN STREET LAI~E ELSINORE, CA 92530 WEDNESDAY, July 17, 2002 The Regular Plaiuiiiig Comtnission Meeting was called to order at 7:01 PM by Chairman Barnes. Chairman Barnes wanted to introduce to the Coimiiission, Staff and Public Dan Uhhy and Ron LaPere. He stated that Dan and Ron have been sworn in as the two new Planning Coimnissioners. The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Vice Chairman Matthies. ROLL CALL PRESENT: COMMISSIONERS: BARNES, MATTHIES, NASH, UHLRY AND LAPERE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE Also present were: Community Development Director Brady, Planning Manager Villa, Associate Planner Miller, City Engineer O'Donnell, and Community Development Clerk Porche' PUBLIC COMMENTS None CONSENT CALENDAR MOVED BY MATTHIES, SECONDED BY NASH AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDARAS PRESENTED. Minutes a. Pla.tu~ing Cominission Regular Meeting - June 19, 2002. PAGE 2- PLANNING COMMISSION MINLJTES - July 17, 2002 PUBLIC HEARINGS 2. Conditional Use Permit (CLJP) 2001-05 Lake Elsinore Motocross and BMX Racin~ and Trainin Tract. Chairman Barnes opened the Public Hearing at 7:05 PM. Community Development Director Brady indicated that this project would be heard at the next regular Plauiung Commission meeting, which is to take place on August 7, 2002. Chairmau Barnes requested that the Staff Repon be available for reviewing a few days prior to the Pluuiing Cominission meeting. MOVED BY NASH, SECONDED BY MATTHIES AND PASSED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO HAVE THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT CONTINUED TO THE NEXT REGULAR PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING ON AUGUST 07, 2002. BUSINESS ITEMS Minor Design Review of two Single Familv Residences located at 389 & 379 Avenue 3. Community Development Director Brady indicated that this is a request for a Minar Design Review of a Residential Project consisting of two Single Family Residences at 389 & 379 Avenue 3. He asked Associate Planner Miller to review the request with the Cominission in the absence of Community Development Technician Heruiings. Associate Planner Miller stated that this is a Design Review for two Single Family Residences located in the southeastern section of the Ciry. She stated that the applicant proposes to construct two 1,250 square foot residences on adjacent lots. She indicated that each elevation would be different. She stated that one of the residences would be stucco siding with cultured stone, while the other would be masonite siding. Associate Planner Miller stated that the residence on 389 Avenue 3 would be 5,875 square feet, and the residence on 379 Avenue 3 would be 5,287 square feet, with 50-foot wide lots. She stated that in order accommodate the foot print of the proposed resident an exception to the side yard set back was made from 15 feet, which would have allowed 10 foot side yard, per section 17.23.080(B~ of the Lake Elsinore Municipal Code (LEMC~. Associate Planner Miller noted the City has the potential of seeing Single Family Residence in the in-fill lots and therefore Staff recommends that the Communiry Development Director could approve these projects administratively. Associate Planner Miller stated that the applicant is proposing four different variations in materials and two different roof styles. She stated that Plan one shows a gable style roof with culture stone, plan two is a gable style roof with stucco and foam trim, plan three has PAGE 3- PLANNING COMMISSION MINLlTES - July 17, 2002 the masonite siding and hip roof and plan four has the stucco and brick siding with hip roof. She stated that all plans would have bay windows. She indicated that Staff finds that the project meets the requirements of the LEMC, and recommends that the Planning Cominission adopt a Resolution to approve a Minor Design Review for the construction of two residential projects at 379 and 389 Avenue 3. Associate Planner Miller indicated that there are a couple of corrections on the Staff Report. She stated that the Exhibit letters were left off. She stated that the letters "A" through "E" would be added. She also indicated that their would be an adjustment made to the Condiuon 23a to include architecttu~al window treatment, when the windows are facing the Public right-of-way, which would read, whez a eleu~'wn fac~s a public rightof-z¢tty, addzzional ~r~nt~cral wmdora~ t~rabrta7t shall l~ requiraG Enha~ua~ arrlntxtural trraimertt shall J~ app~vt~a' by the Cwrmm.mz'ty Derxlo[anenx Ilirxtor Design~. Associate Planner Miller indicated that the applicant is present for any questions. Chairman Barnes opened the floor for questions pertauiuig to this matter. Jay Hattabaugh, 17541 Barkshatt, Lake Elsinore, stated that he is the applicant for the proposed projec[. He indicated that he is a general contractor, and has worked on many refiu-bishing homes in the area. He stated that there is a need for affordable housing in the Downtown area. He stated that this is a new venture and is looking forward to working with the City. Chairman Barnes requested any funher questions from the public. There being no further requests to speak, Chairman Barnes brought the discussion back to the table. Cominission Nash asked if the applicant were going to provide curb, gutter and sidewalks. The applicant indicated yes. Comaussioner Nash stated that he has seen prior work completed by the applicant and indicated that his work is good. He stated that he likes the idea of doing more of in-house approval process, since the Cirywill be seeing more of these infill lot projects. Comtnissioner LaPere concurs with Comrnissioner Nash. Cominissioner LaPere asked if the recommendation of having Single Fainily Residence approved administratively would be a separate resolution. Community Development Director Brady stated that the resolution was just for the approval of the project. He stated that this particular developer may have more projects like this one, and may be bringing this same design back, therefore could possibly be approved administrauvely. Coxnmissioner LaPere had no further questions. Commissioner LJliliy asked if the approval admuustratively also included Single Family Residences in the Downtown Historic Area, in-fill lots. Associate Planner Miller indicated that those lots would be excluded. Coimnissioner Uhlry indicated that he approves these PAGE 4- PLANNING COMMISSIONMINUfES - July 17, 2002 particular projects that are coming into the City, as it would bring in more revenue. ComTnissioner Uhlry had no further questions. Comnussioner Matthies concurred with the other Conuiussioners. She thanked Staff for the recommendation of the enhancements to the window treatments. Coiruiussioner Matthies had no further questions. Chairman Barnes stated that the project was designed well and is a good addition the to infill lots. Chairman Barnes had no fixrther quesuons. There being no fiirther comments, Chairman Barnes asked for the reading of the resolution. MOVED BY NASH, SECONDED BY UHLRY AND PASSED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THESE PRESENT TO ADOPT A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING CONIMISSION OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA, APPROVING MINOR DESIGN REVIEW OF TWO SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES LOCATED AT 389 & 379 AVENiJE 3(APN 373-117-004 & 008) WITH THE FOLLOWING REVISIONS TO CONDITION NO. 23a. 23a. WHEN A ELEVATION FACES A PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAY, ADDITIONAL ARCHITECTURAL WINDOW TREATMENT SHALL BE REQUIRED. ENHANCED ARCHITECTURAL TREATMENT SHALL BE APPROVED BY THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR DESIGNEE. 4. Design Review of Residential Project No. 2002-06. "Shore Point II, Tract No. 19561. Due to conflict of Interest, Chairman Barnes excused himself from discussion of this project. Community Development Director Brady stated that this is a residential project to include 19 Single Funily Residences, and requested Planuiug Manager Villa to review it with the Comcnission. Plaunuig Manager Villa stated that both applicants Joe Killinger and John Previti were present to answer any questions that the Planiung Commission may have regarding this project. He stated that Community Development Technician Hexuiings could not be present, and therefore he would present it to the Planning Comrnission. Planning Manager Villa stated that the applicants have proposed to construct three model homes within 19 lots within an old subdivision called the Masson Specific Plan. He indicated that this subdivision Specific Plan was approved in 1974 and is located off Grand Avenue and Serena Way. He stated that the subdivision originally encompassed 28 lots, seven of which are currendy developed with custom homes. He stated that of the three models that Forecast is proposing, two are one-stoxy, and one is a two-story. He stated that each model has a different elevation. He indicated that plan number one is a 1,871 square PAGE 5- PLANNING CONIMISSION MINUTES - July 17, 2002 foot single family home. He stated plan number two ranges between 2,032 to 2,232 squaze feet, and plan number three ranges from 2,311 to 2,521 square feet. Planning Manager Villa stated that Staff has been working with the applicant to have a product that would fit in with the established area. He stated that the proposed plans would blend in well with the existing homes and meets all the rr~;n;mum requirements of the Lake Elsinore Municipal Code and the Maz~son Specific Plan. He asked that the Plauuing Comcnission adopt a Resolution based on the Findings, E~ibits and Condiuons of Approval. Vice Chairman Matthies opened the floor for questions penaining to this matter. Albia Miller of Wildomar stated that she is against the project due to the unprotected habitat. She stated that the City is not complying with the Multi-species Habitat Conservauon plan. She stated that she did not find a map included with the agenda that would show where the project is being proposed. She indicated that she would discuss this further, later during the meeting. Vice Chairman Matthies requested any fiuther questions from the public. There being no fiuther request to speak Vice Chairinau Matthies brought the discussion back to the table. Commissioner Nash asked the applicants if they have read and agreed to all of the Conditions of Approval. The applicants stated yes. Cominissioner Nash asked if the issues pertaiuiug to the block walls were resolved. The applicants stated yes. Coxnmissioner Nash indicated that the design of the project were compatible and is pleased to see the project move forward. Comnussioner Nash had no fiirther comments. Commissioner LaPere stated that he likes the looks of the project. He asked the applicant if the sidewalks were going to be replaced. The applicant stated yes. Corcunissioner LaPere had no further comments. Cominissioner Uhlry asked the applicants if there were going to be underground electrical utilities. Community Development Director Brady stated that all utilities would be underground. Comxnissioner LTl~lxy stated that he did not see that it was included in the plans or Condirions. He asked on what were the plans for lot number 16. John Previti of 719 Belair Drive, Vista stated that lot 16 and 19 would not be constructed by Forecast Homes. He indicated that a private developer is developing one of the lots. PAGE 6- PLANNING CONIMISSION MINL)'I'ES - July 17, 2002 Planning Manager Villa indicated that lot 19 is currently being developed and, would be presented to the Plaruung Commission within the next few weeks. Commissioner Uhlry stated to Albia Miller that this particular Tract Map was approved in 1984, and several residence in the area are glad to see the area be developed. Comrnissioner Uhlry had no fiuther questions. Vice Chairman Matthies concurred with the other Commissioners on the project. She stated that she likes to design of the project, and is glad to see that development of the area is taking place. Vice Chairman Matthies had no further questions. There being no fmther comments, Vice Chairman Matthies asked for the reading of the resolution. MOVED BY NASH, SECONDED BY LAPERE AND PASSED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THESE PRESENT TO ADOPT A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CIT'Y OF LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA, APPROVING DESIGN REVIEW OF RESIDENTIAL PROJECT NO. 4 2002-06 CONSISTING OF 19 LOTS LOCATED WITHIN TRACT NO. 19561 5. Design Review for Residential Project No. 2002-03 KB Home Coastal Inc. (Town of Lucerne. Due to the conflict of interest, Chairman Barnes and Cominission Nash excused themselves from the discussion of this project. Community Development Director Brady stated that this is a Design Review of a Residential project consisting of 1521ots, and asked that Associate Planner Miller review it with the Commission. Associate Planner Miller stated that this is a 152-1ot project that would include a Model Home Complex. She stated that the project is located within the northern secuon of the Ciry. She indicated that it is part of a Tract Map known as Town of Lucerne, which was recorded in 1888. She stated that the area was revised in 1984, and this is the last piece of development in the area. Associate Planner Miller stated that lots range in size from 6,003 square feet to 9,867 square feet. She stated that the productions units range from 1,582 square feet to 2,762 square feet. She indicated that there are six different floor plans, with three different elevations, 19 different elevations throughout the tract. She stated that the elevations are Spanish style ranch, or Italiante architectural style. Associate Planner Miller stated that the issues were traffic and circulation. She stated that when the project came before the Plaxuiing Cominission in the past, the neighbors claimed PAGE 7- PLANNING COMMISSIONMINUTES - July 17, 2002 that Washington Avenue and Terra Cotta Avenue had been turned into direct routes in order to reach Lakeshore Drive. She noted that Staff has decided that traffic-cahning devises were warranted. Associate Planner Miller indicated that the other issue is the compatibiliry with e~sting residences. She stated that Staff feels that the architectural styles compatible to the area, and will increase the value of homes in the area. She stated that Staff feels that the project meets the requirements of the LEMC. She stated that she did receive a letter from Lawrence Webber of Solona Court, Lake Elsinore indicating that his view would be impaired with the construction of the new homes, and was very concerned. She indicated that she did have a chance to drive out to the area, and did feel that Mr. Webber s view would be impaired. She stated that this is unfortunate, however with infill projects, such as this, sometimes they are unavoidable. She stated that their should be a change in the Condiuons that would add 16a, which would read tlazt the applicmu shall rernarz and replam tlae exzsting zenal fence on lou 10 thrce~gh 14 za~ith a six foot City Standard zenal fencs. The applicunt shall mplace th~e ferne and make the arran~nrnous wuh th~e p~vj~rty arpa~zrs on Sdano Caicix She recommends that the Plauning Cominission adopt a Resolution based on the Findings, Exhibits, and Conditions. Vice Chairman Matthies opened the floor for questions pertaining to this matter. Bob Fallon, of KB Home Coastal San Diego. He stated that he is the applicant for this project Torn Ranch. He stated that the only issues remain are the traffic issues. He stated that he has read and agrees to the Conditions of Approval. He stated that with the regards to the traffic cahiuug Condition, he would ask that their would be an agreement with the Police and the Fire Depaxtment of Lake Elsinore to make sure that KB Home is not doing anything to impede their emergency response time. He also commented on the Condition 16a. He stated that KB Home would be willing to put the fence in, however KB Home would need to work with the eausting homeowners. Should there be any homeowners who opposes the new fence that KB Home has the right to work with Staff on that issue. Comtnissioner LaPere asked the applicant on how he would be willing to work with the homeowners. The applicant stated that he would discuss this with the homeowner and tell them that they have been asked by the City to put in a new fence, based on the City's Standards. He would need to advise the homeowner that the existing fence would need to be removed, and would ask for their cooperation. Commissioner LaPere asked the applicant if there would be any cost to the homeowner. The applicant stated no. Albia Miller of PO Box 1377, Lake Elsinore, CA. stated that she is opposed to the Shore Point II and KB Home Coastal projects. She stated that development of this project in the City would adhere further global warming. She indicated that restoration of e~cisting PAGE 8- PLANNING COMMISSION MINLI'I'ES - July 17, 2002 development is needed verses adding new development. She stated that adding new homes in the area would increase traffic, and cause more air pollution. Ms. Miller stated that with the production of the new homes in the area, it violates the Multi Species Habitat Plan. She stated that with development, it disturbs the natural habitat, causing rodents and insects to invade other rural areas in the neighborhood. Vice Chairman Matthies requested any fiu-ther questions from the public. Their being no further requests to speak, Vice Chairman Matthies brought the discussion back to the table. Commissioner Uhhy stated that he had a chance to review the project over the weekend and approves of the project. He stated that the project blends in well with the surrounding neighborhood, and stated that he does not anucipate any problems with the Fire or Police Department on the traffic calmuig devices. Commissioner Uhlry had no further comments. Commissioner LaPere stated that he could see the entire project from his backyard. He stated that he has no problems with the project at this time. He indicated that the project would benefit the area. Cominissioner LaPere had no further comments. Vice Chairmui Matthies concuned with the other Conuiussioners. She thanked the applicant on working the Commission and Staff on the new fencing Condition Standards and the traffic situation. She indicated that the project "Torn Ranch" was named after the Tom Family. Vice Chairman Matthies had no fiirther comments. Commissioner LaPere asked if Mr. Webber's issue regarding the view was ever resolved. Vice Chairman Matthies asked if it would be possible to have a single story home place on the lot near Mr. Webber lot, verses a two-story. Applicant Bob Fallon stated that he would be will'uig to discuss the issue with the Mr. Webber. He stated that Mr. Webber's home might line up with one of the models. He indicated that the model is a two-story home. Vice Chairman asked if they would consider switching from a two-story model to a single- story modeL Applicant Bob Fallon stated that from a marketing stand point, it would not be feasible to switch models. He indicated that it would only cause the potential problem for other neighbors. Community Development Director Brady stated that the way KB Home has graded their tract is to meet with the existing homes, drainage, and street pattern in the area. He stated that he believes that KB Home would be willing to work with changes as long as it is some of the production models. He stated that even a single story home would obscure some of the view. Applicant Bob Fallon stated that if the switching would not benefit the homeowner, then he would prefer not to do any switching. PAGE 9- PLANNING COMMISSION MINLJTES - July 17, 2002 There being no further comments, Vice Chairman Matthies ask for the reading of the Resolution. MOVED BY LAPERE, SECONDED BY UHLRY r1ND PASSED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THESE PRESENT TO ADOPT A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF LAI~E ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA, APPROVING DESIGN REVIEW OF RESIDENTIAL PROJECT NO. 4 2002-03 CONSISTING OF 152 LOTS WHICH INCLUDES A MODEL HOME COMPLEX, LOCATED BETWEEN ST. CLAIRE AVENUE AND WASHINGTON AVENUE, TOWN OF LUCERNE TRACT, WITH THE FOLLOWING ADDITIONAL CONDITIONS: 16a. THE APPLICANT SHALL REMOVE AND REPLACE THE EXISTING WOOD FENCE ON LOTS 10 THROUGH 14 WITH A SIX FOOT CITY STANDARD WOOD FENCE. THE APPLICANT SHALL REPLACE THE FENCE AND MAKE THE ARRANGEMENTS WITH THE PROPERTY OWNERS ON SOLANO COURT. 6. Consideration of Changin the Regular Meeting Date and Time of the Planning Commission. Chairman Barnes and Cominissioner Nash re-joined the Commission. Chairman Barnes stated that this item is a consideration to have the Planning Comrnission date and time changed from the first and third Wednesday at 7:00 PM to the first and third Tuesday at 6:00 PM. He stated that this would be beneficial to the public, the Cominission, and save money charged to the City for overtime. Churmui Barnes stated that this must be presented to the Comcnission and voted upon. Community Development Director Brady stated that the Plazuiing Cominission sets it own date and time under the laws of regulations, and other operating procedures. He stated that initially it was presented to the City Council, however the City Council did not express any opposition to the proposed changes. Commissioner Nash concurred with the change. Conuiussion LaPere concurred with the change. He indicated that he would be coming from Upland, and there may be a time when he would be a few minutes late. He indicated that he would be willuig to give it a try. Cominission L7hlry concurred with the change. Vice Chairxnan Matthies concurred with the change PAGE 10 - PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES - July 17, 2002 MOVED BY MATTHIES, SECONDED BY UHLRY AND PASSED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THESE PRESENT TO ADOPT A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA, ESTABLISHING THE DATE AND TIME OF REGULAR PLANNING COMMISSION MEETINGS. INFORMATIONAL Community Development Director Brady stated that on August 22nd, there would be a seminar/workshop held by the American Pluuiing Association for Plaiuung Commissioners. He stated that any Plauning Cominissioner wishing to attend this semuiar may do so. He stated that if any of the Commissioners would be interested in attending please advise the office and arrangements would be made. STAFF COMMENTS Communitv Developmern Director Brady commented on the followin~ He wanted to welcome Cominissioner LaPere and Commissioner LJI~y to the Plaxuiing Comnussion. He stated that he looks forward to working cvith the new Coimnissioners on upcoming projects. PLANNING COMMISSIONER'S CONIMENTS Commissioner Nash commented on the followine: • He also wanted to welcome Commissioner LaPere and Conuiussioner Uhlry to the Commission. • He recommended the upcoming seminar to the two new Plannuig Comnussioners. He indicated that they are very informative. • He also wanted to thank Staff for all the hard work. • He stated that the Chamber is having a reverse drawing at the Diamond. He stated that there are a few tickets remainuig. Vice Chairman Matthies commented on the followine: She wanted to welcome the two new Cominissioners. She indicated that she looks forward to working with them She wanted to thank Staff for remembering to add the Condition that discusses the window treatments. PAGE il - PLANNING CONIMISSIONMINLT'I'ES - July 17, 2002 Commissioner Lll~lry commented on the following; • He thanked Staff and the Cominission for the support. He stated that he looks forward to working with the City on upcoming project. Commissioner LaPere commented on the followin~: • He stated that his philosophy is "Keep it simple." He stated that he has known Commissioner Nash for quite some tune, and looks forward to working with all. Chairman Barnes commented on the followinQ: • He too welcomed the two new Commissioners. • He concurs with Cominissioner LaPere on the growth of the Ciry. • He wanted to advise Communiry Development Director Brady that he did in fact receive a copy of the norice of Study Session. Kathy Smith of 15210 Washington Avenue, CA. She stated that she purchased her home five years ago in the Torn Ranch area. She stated that she was under the assumption that five single story homes would be built neart door to her. She stated that she has just learned that her home's view would also be blocked due to the construction of two story homes. She indicated that not only from the first floor but the second floor as well. Vice Chunnau Matthies recommended to Kathy Smith to contact the project manager Associate Planner Miller. She stated that hopefully something could be worked out. Associate Miller advised the Commission that Mrs. Webber has arrived to speak to the Commission. Mrs. Webber 801 Solano Court, Lake Elsinore. She stated that she has a two-story, five-bedroom home in the area of the new project. She stated that she can look out of her master bathroom, and the height of the home that is being buik would be a her back gate. She stated that the privacy of her home would be taken away. She stated that the homeowner who would live in this house would be able to look into her backyard. She stated that the reason she purchased this home was for the view of the lake. She indicated that she would no longer be able to view the lake from her home due to the construction of this house. Mrs. Olga Alvalos, City of Lake Elsinore, concurred with Mrs. Webber's statements on the lost of view and privacy due to this project. Vice Cha;rn,a„ Matthies stated that this had previously been discussed early. She suggested contacting Associate Planner Miller, the project manager for any issues on this project. She stated PAGE 12 - PLANNING CONIMISSION MINUI'ES - July 17, 2002 that Associate Planner Miller is working with the applicant and hopefully can come up with some solution to resolves these issues. ADJOURNMENT MOVED BY MATTHIES SECONDED BY NASH AND CARIZIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO ADJOURN THE REGULAR PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING AT 8:15 PM. BARNES, CI-3AIRMAN Respectfully Submitted a-~~ ~i . / (w~~ Dana C. Porche' Community Development Clerk ATTEST: ~~ obert A. Brady, ecr~ Plannuig Comtnission MINUTES PLANNING CONIMISSION MEETING CITY OF LAI~E ELSINORE 183 NORTH MAIN STREET LAI~E ELSINORE, CA 92530 WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 07, 2002 The Regular Plauiuug Comcnission Meeting was called to order at 7:00 PM by Chairmazi Barnes. The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Cominissioner Uhhy. ROLL CALL PRESENT: COMMISSIONERS: BARNES, MATTHIES, NASH, UHLRY AND LAPERE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE Also present were: Community Development Director Brady, Pl~miuig Manager Villa, Associate Planner Miller, City Engineer O'Donnell, and Community Development Technician Hennings and Depury Attorney Miles. PUBLIC COMMENTS None CONSENT CALENDAR MOVED BY LAPERE, SECONDED BY UHLRY AND CAI2RIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR AS PRESENTED. 1. Minutes a. Plauning Cominission Regular Meeting - July 17, 2002. PAGE 2- PLANNING CONIMISSION MINUTES - August 07, 2002 PUBLIC HEARINGS 2. Conditional Us Chairman Barnes opened the Public Hearing at 7:04 PM Community Development Director Brady indicated that this is a Conditional Use Permit for the Lake Elsinore Motocross. He stated that the item has been continued from the regular Plannuig Cominission Meeting of July 17, 2002, per the request of the applicant. He indicated that there had been a flyer sent out indicating that Staff was going to shut down the facility. He indicated that the recommendation from Staff was to approve the continuance for the Condirional Use Permit. He stated that the Ciry had supported this item as an interim use facility four years ago. He stated that this is a request to renew the application as an interim use in the East Lake Specific Plan area. He requested that Plauuiug Manager Armando Villa review it with the Commission. Planning Manager Villa stated that the City approved this facility in 1998. He stated that the Plaiuiiiig Commission approved the CUP for a term of three years, with the possibly of extensions. He stated that the Plam~iug Coimnission placed limitauons on the facility to allow up to 50 bicycles on the tract. He stated that after that, the applicant requested an additiona125 bikes on the tract. He stated that this request was granted. Planning Manager Villa stated that since then, the permit has expired. He indicated that the purpose of this meeting is to approve the CCJl', which would allow additional time of three years and up to five years, and to add a BMX facility. Plannuig Manager Villa noted that several issues have been raised. He stated that one of the major issues was noise and dust. He stated that two noise studies have been conducted. The study analyzed noises that were generated from the faciliry. He stated that both studies indicated that the noise from the facility were minimal and met the requirements of the noise ordinance. Planniug Manager Villa stated that the other issue is dust generated from the faciliry. He stated that Staff has worked with the applicant and based on the Conditions of Approval, the applicant has agreed to water down the dirt on a periodic basis. Plaxuung Manager Villa indicated that other issues that have been a concern were the emergency services. He stated that the Fire Captain has recommended that the faciliry employ their own EMT personnel. He stated that this request has been implemented into the Conditions of Approval. Plamiing Manager Villa stated that other issues were the need of additional Staff for the facility. He stated that Staff has recommended that they employ a ininiinum of at least 26 people to guarantee the safery of the riders during operation. Plamiiug Manager Villa stated that overall Staff has analyzed the purposed project and found that if the use complies with the Conditions of Approval, that the operation would be an PAGE 3- PLANNING COMMISSION MINiJTES - August 07, 2002 asset to the community. He stated that he is recommending that the Plamiing Commission adopt two Resolutions. He noted that one is for the Mitigated Negative Declarauon and the other is for the CUP for a maxiinum of 128 bicycles and a BMX tract for three years with a possibiliry of yearly extensions up to five years, based on the findings, e~ibits, and Condition of Approval. He stated that the applicant is present for any questions. Dr. Vernon Poole, Optometrist in Murrieta CA. He stated that that he uses that facility for the purpose of exercise and pleasure. He stated that he rides at least 3 days a week for about 1 1/2 hours per session. He indicated that he heard the City of Temecula is setting up a fund to purchase open space for parks. He stated that this facility is not costing as much money as the City of Temecula would be putting aside for the parks. He stated that he is glad to hear that the City of Lake Elsinore is recommending approval for the facility to remain open. Mike Redman- 41775 Hawthorne, Murrieta. He indicated that he runs the BMX tract at the Motocross faciliry in Lake Elsinore. He stated that he manufactures bikes in the Ciry of Lake Elsinore at 311 Minthorne Avenue. He indicated that all ages use the Motocross facility. He stated that he hopes that the lighting at the facility would be approved for the use of the facility in the evening. He stated that most of the kids that use the facility participate with their parent's supervision. He indicated that he would appreciate the City's approval on the facility. Lynn Holzner - 4722 Gurky Street, San Diego CA. He stated that this facility is an excellent use for the military in San Diego due to the accessibility. He indicated that Motocross is one of the fastest growing sports. He stated that the continued use of the faciliry would mean higher revenue for the City of Lake Elsinore and better recreauon for the military. David Masters - 33380 Loquat Street, Wildomar, CA. He stated that he lives approxixnately 1/2 mile from the Motocross facility. He stated that the noise and dust are minimal. He stated that he uses the facility frequently, and would like to use it more. He stated that he has been involved with motorcycles most of his life, and would like to see his son get more involved with the sport as well. He believes that the children in the azea would benefit from the tract, as well as his own. He indicated that he would like to see if the facility could work with low-income families, so they could use the facility as well. He stated that he hopes that the City approves this facility. Greg Burrow - He stated that he attended the Planning Comxnission meeting in 1989. He indicated that so much growth has taken place in the City of Lake Elsinore and community. He stated that in the begixuiing their was just one tract, then two. He stated that Randy Hiner indicated that he wanted to give everyone an oppoituiuty to ride there, no matter what their abilities are. He stated that he is a regular at the tract and he stated that this facility has done so much for the City of Lake Elsinore. He indicated that five different Counties' are using the facility, ranging from all different ages with their families. He stated that Randy Hiner has done a good job nuuiing the operation smoothly. He wanted to thank the City for the recommendation of keeping this facility open. PAGE 4- PLANNING COMMISSION MINLI`fES - August 07, 2002 Gale Webb - Sun City CA. She indicated that she has been in the industry of over 26 years. She stated that she and everyone who uses the facility is continuing to look for places where kids and their funilies can have a good time that is safe and fun. She indicated that the Motocross facility in Lake Elsinore is one of the best that she has ever seen. She stated that she is currently active with a program that helps keeps kids off drugs. She believes that if more kids have a place where they can have fun, such as the Motocross facility then they would be less interested in drugs and helps keep their self-esteem up. She stated that Randy Hiner has the same beliefs. She thanked the City for recommending the approval of keeping the facility open. Carole Feeney - 15611 Lake Terrance, Lake Elsinore, CA. She indicated that she is in favor for keeping the Motocross facility open. She stated that in the past three years she and her family have used the faciliry. She indicated that the facility has something to offer to everyone. She stated that with such a variery of activiries at the facility, she and her family spend most of the day at the facility, when possible. She stated that the City of Lake Elsinore is famous for Motocross, which began in the 1960's. She stated that the City of Lake Elsinore was featured in a movie called "On any Sunday." She stated that she feels that this facility is a family park, and is in favor of keeping the facility open. Matthew Beerer - 31877 Corte Monicito - Temecula CA. He stated that he is a good friend of Randy Hiner. He indicated that Randy presented an oppoitluiity for him to put together a safery program. He indicated that one of the concems of that Randy had was the safery of the children using the facility. He indicated that a program was put together to allow kids to attend a day camp from 9 to 5 where they could learn to use the facility safely. He indicated that all of the equipment is provided free. He stated that at the motocross facility, kids are taught how to use to jumps safely, and how to use the facility when the tract is heavily populated with other riders. He stated that the kids are separated based on their ages, and their abilities to ride and their bike size. He stated that he has had 212 kids use the day camp since May 2002. He stated that the program is working fantastically for the kids. Chairman Barnes indicated that he received a letter from Keith Penny of 32675 Wildomar Road, Lake Elsinore, CA. He indicated that the letter stated that he was against the Motocross facility. He stated that the letter was very lengthy, and therefore would not read the letter, however did want it to go on record that Mr. Keith Penny is against the Motocross faciliry. Chunnau Barnes asked the public of how many were against the Motocross facility. There was no raising of hands. Chairman Barnes asked how xnany were fore the project. Nearly all present raised their hand. Chairman Barnes then requested the public if anyone else would like to speak on behalf of the project. Mark Hu•riugton- lived in Lake Elsinore for over twenty years and currendy has a business in the City of Lake Elsinore. He stated that the faciliry could generate a lot of revenue for the City. He used an example of a super-store of cycle and watercraft sales in the San Bernardino County that brings in 200 million dollars in sales a year. He stated that he enjoys the facility and is a great asset to the City. He wanted to thank the Ciry for the recommendation of approval of the project. PAGE 5- PLANNING COMMISSION MINLIT'ES - August 07, 2002 Churman Bames requested the applicant to approach the table. Applicant Randy Hiner - 3350 Elizabeth Road, Temecula CA. He indicated that really did not need to tell the Commission about the tract, as the public has already taken care of that. He stated that he did however have some concems with a few of the Condiuons and wanted to go over them with Staff and the Comnussion. He asked about Condiuon No. 4 where it discusses noise studies to be conducted every 6 months. He stated that two noise studies have been done so far in concurrent with the amount of bikes used at the tract. He asked Staff if it would be possible to use their noise study consultant, as it was considerably less. He indicated that he paid $1,500.00 for a noise study, verses the City's consukant charged $6,500.00. He stated that both showed the same results. He asked about Condiuon No. 5 where it discusses the AQMD. He stated that there have been three studies conducted and each time they been acceptable. He stated that each day, more than 250 thousand gallon of water is sprayed over the area to maintain the dust levels. He stated that they have two water trucks that start at five in the morning and continue until ten or eleven at night, seven days a week. He stated that there are times that dust has been an issue. He stated that usually it is due to a wind issue. He stated that the airport, which is located near the facility, does not water down their area. He requested that Staff eliminate this Condition. Applicant Randy Hiner also commented on Condition No. 7 He stated that this is a recommendation of relocating the pay booth towards the site entrance. He stated that this would be an inconvenience for them as there is a significant amount of money that come through and for the safety against robbery, it would not be beneficial. He requested Staff let the booth remain where is currently located. He asked about Condition No. 8 where it discusses a$5,000.00 cash bond for removal of structures, artifacts and equipment. He stated that he feels that this is an issue between himself and the landowner and not so much the City's issue. He asked about Condiuon No. 9 where it discussed a$20,000.00 cash bond would be held until the area is put back into it's original state, should the facility be no longer used. He stated that again he feels that this would be a tenant/landlord issue, and that the City should not be concemed. He asked about Condition No. 11 where is discusses no off site advertising would be allowed. He indicated that he would need clarificauon on this Condiuon. He asked about Condition No. 12 where it discusses the use of vending machines. He stated that he would work with Staff on this Condition. PAGE 6- PLANNING COMMISSION M1NLITES - August 07, 2002 He asked about Condition No. 13 where it discusses that the applicant shall prepare a detailed site plan for the 60 x 200-foot pad area. He stated that he did not believe that this was on the existing map. He indicated that he would like to discuss with Staff as well. He asked about Condition No. 16 where it discusses the hours of operation. He stated that he neglected to put in the application for lights. He indicated that having lights would help with dust issues and overcrowding at times. He stated that he is purposing the use of lights on one of the tracts to the North/West of the facility. He stated that they would be using a low density of lights that would not interfere with the habitat near the area. He stated that he would like the hours of operation to be three days per week unti1930 PM. He stated that he would prefer to not go through the Plauuing Cominission but rather have it discussed internal. He asked about Condition No. 24 where it discusses emergency seroices. He stated that this issue has been an on going problem that he has been dealing with. He indicated that the facility runs a very safe track. He indicated that the riders who use the facility are recreauonal riders, between the ages of 25 to 60 years of age. He noted that the ambulance calls have dropped significandy since May of this year. He requested to continue to run the emergency service as it is. He asked about Condition No. 27 which is an Engineering Condition. He would like to discuss this Condition with Staff as well. He wanted to thank Staff for working so well with them in order to have this project e~tended. Chairmau Bames requested any furtlier quesuons from the public. There being no further requests to speak, Chairxnan Barnes brought the discussion back to the table. Conunissioner LJl~lry stated that he was involved with the Saddleback racetrack and indicated that he could understand some of the problems that have been raised, regarding the medical services. He stated that he does have some concerns with conducting dust studies on a small section of land. He also had concerns with the proposed lighting. He had no further questions. Coinmissioner Nash thanked everyone for coming to the meeting and showing his or her support. Cominissioner Nash wanted to point out to the public that this faciliry is a park. He indicated that it is for the use of families and public. He indicated that he feels it is important to keep it a multi tract. He stated that he does have some concerns with the safety issues. He indicated that he realizes the costs involved. Conmussioner Nash stated that as far as the lights issue, he does not have a problem with it as long as it is worked out properly. He stated that the only question that he had for the applicant was the temporaxy issue. He asked the applicant if he had any plans on purchasing the land. Applicant Randy Hiner indicated that he did have plans on purchasing the property from the owner. He stated that he enjoys having this facility and will continue to operate it. He PAGE 7- PLANNING COMMISSION MINU'1'ES - August 07, 2002 stated that it would be beneficial to him to purchase the land, since the price of the land keeps increasing. Corcunissioner Nash also mentioned that the noise and dust studies would need to be conducted. He stated that having them done every 6 months does seem repetitive, however they will need to be conducted. He indicated that he is all for the faciliry. He indicated that all the other issues could be worked out. Plauning Manager Villa stated that the purpose of having bonds implemented is so that the City does not have to re-grade the area, and have it cleaned up to its original way. He stated that the bond would give the City insurance that the area w~71 be resurface to its original state. Comxnissioner Nash had no further comments Commissioner LaPere commented that he too has a military background. He indicated that understood how useful the motocross faciliry could be for kids and theirfaiiulies. He asked the applicant on what type of lights would be used at the facility. The applicant stated that he would prefer to have the question addressed to a lighting specialist. . Chairman Bames stated that the quesuon is irrelevant at this time, since the lighting issue was not in the Conditions. Community Development Director Brady stated that if the applicant wishes to discuss the lighting issue, then the Commission might discuss it at this time. Deputy Attorney Miles stated that there could be discussion on the lighting, and analyzed. Commissioner LaPere withdrew the question. Chairrnan Barnes asked Deputy Attorney Miles if we could approve the resolution as it is, and have the lighting issue be handle intemally, by the Community Development Director. Deputy Attorney Miles stated that we first need to adopt the Mitigated Negative Declarauon. He indicated the document is defined. He stated that the Comnussion could approve the C.'UP and give direction to review the lighting element of the project. Chai,,,,a„ Barnes stated that the Commission could continue as it is, or the applicant could withdraw and resubmit at some other time, after amending the application. The applicant agreed to amend the application for lighting and resubmit later. ComTnissioner LaPere stated that he did visit the site and stated that he did not hear any loud noises. He stated that all the kids using the faciliry impressed him. He stated that he PAGE 8- PLANNING CONIMISSION MINU'fES - August 07, 2002 was shown were there is room to be used for emergency treatment, and was impressed. He stated that he is in favor of the park. He had no further questions. Vice Chairman Matthies stated that she and her family has been a resident in the Ciry for many years. She stated that she recalls when she used to ride her bike through field of dirt that is now filled with home. She indicated that the tracks in the other areas are set up for racing, however this facility would be used for recrearion. She recommended to the applicant that a discount for the students with proof of their student ID, might be a good idea. The applicant stated that they have already implemented a plan to work with the students, and once the project is approved then they would proceed with the plan. Vice Chairman Matthies commented on the dust and noise issue. She stated that if tracts are added to the facility, then she stated that having studies conducted every six months would be feasible. However indicated that that right now she feels that having them done every six months to one year seems a bit much. Chairniui Barnes asked why be the study conducted every si~c months. Community Development Director Brady stated that the purpose of the studies to be conducted every sis months was due to the fact that noise and dust are an issue. He stated that dust and noise could vary due to the conditions of the weather. He stated that the purpose of the study is to measure and compare. He stated that the Comnussion could set the tune, as to when they feel is appropriate. Vice Chairman Mattlues stated that the guard at the gate is necessary, especially with the amount of money that comes through the facility. She asked Staff as to the necessity of having the booth moved. Plaiuung Manager Villa stated that the purpose of moving the booth is due to the fact that the Army Corps regulations that no structure is allowed under the 1,265 elevation. He stated that the booth is currently located under that elevation. Vice Chairman Matthies asked if there is an elevation that is at 1,265 or above. Plamiing Manager Villa indicated yes. Vice Chairman Matthies concurred with Commissioner Nash on the Conditions No. 8 and 9. She also stated that she wants to keep Condition No 10 as is. She stated that on Condition No. 11, which discusses advertising, she asked Staff to define. Pluuiiug Manager Villa stated that there currently is a provision in our municipal code sign ordinance that prohibits off site signage. He stated that through out the course of inspecuons of the project the facility had placed a large amount of signs in the size of b foot by 4 feet along the entrance. The signs were advertising other businesses from in an out of town. PAGE 9- PLANNING COMMISSION MINLITES - August 07, 2002 Vice Chairman Matthies asked Pl~miuig Manager to clarify. Planning Manager Villa stated that an off site advertising meant that the applicant is only allowed to advertise their property. Vice Chau7nan Matthies asked why the ballpark is allowed to advertise other businesses on their properry. Community Development Director Brady stated that just because the signs are out there does not mean that it was approved. Commissioner LaPere asked if there are signs placed within the park, and they are advertising business that could be affiliated with the business, are their fees that the advertiser has to pay to allow the sign to be placed there. The applicant stated yes. Coxsunissioner LaPere commented that most parks that charge admission do that. He asked Staff why is the applicant an exceprion. Chaii•man Barnes recommended that this Condirion be deleted. Vice Chairman Matthies asked about Condition No. 13. where it discusses a pennauent office. She asked if the current office is mobile and not permanent. Ciry Engineer O'Donnell stated that if the applicant could show the regulations in the federal register of the United States that you could put a structure or trailer in a flood plain and have it moved in 72 hours, then you could have one put there. However, he stated that does not believer that there is such a regulation. The applicant asked if he could get approval from the Anny Corps. Ciry Engineer O'Donnell stated that the Corp of Engineers does not regulate the flood plain. He stated that FEMA does. The applicant asked if he could get approval from FEMA, would he be allowed to keep the structure where it is currendy located. City Engineer O'Donnell stated that FEMA would not allow that unless the flood plain was changed. Deputy Attorney Miles stated that the City has multiple jurisdictions in the basin. He stated that the Corps has jurisdiction FEMA also has jurisdiction as well as the City. He stated that the most appropriate decision would be to use the Coirunissions jurisdiction. PAGE 10 - PLANNING COMMISSION MINLI'I'ES - August 07, 2002 Vice Cha;,-r„a„ Matthies asked about the Engineering Condiuons. She asked if this is something that the Conniussion could work out. City Engineer O'Donnell stated that these are the same Conditions that were used in the original GCTI'. Vice Chai:man Matthies stated that with regards to the EMT's used at the park, she indicated that she has seen them and that they are not just sitting in their cars, they are in-fact doing their job. She indicated that should the facility add more tracts, then it may become necessary to add more EMT"s to the facility. She stated that at this time she does not feel that adding more EMT's would be necessary. Vice Chaimian had no further quesuons. Cha;rr„an Barnes pointed out that the Condiuons on the project might seem lengthy, however he stated that these Condiuons are necessary for a C2JP. He stated that as the park has grown from its original permit, it is necessary for more Condiuons to be added in order to protect the City's interest. Cha;rn,ar, Barnes stated that regarding Condition No. 7 where it discusses to relocate the pay booth, he stated that FEMA placed those regulations regarding the flood plain, and that the Commission has no authority to change them. The applicant asked if they could re-grade the area so that the elevation would be higher, would they be allowed to have the pay booth remain where it is. Chairman Barnes indicated that this could be possible if it is worked out with the City Engineer. He stated that on Condiuons No. 8 and 9 it would be necessary for the Cash Bonds since the Ciry granted the CUI', then the landlord would come back to the City and the City would be liable to make sure that everything is flatten to reflect its original condition. He again stated that he would like to strike Condiuon No. 11. He commented with regards to Condiuon No. 24 where it discusses EMT, he asked Community Development Director Brady if the recommendation came from the Fire Department. Communiry Development Director stated that this is one of the major issues that the Fire Chief originally had with the tract. He stated that the facility has done a much better job of reducing the calls that they have had in the past. He stated that the concern with the Fire Department is that so many calls were made for the facility, that it was taking away for the City for other emergencies. Plam~iug Manager Villa stated that the City has not received a letter from the Fire Chief indicating that things have changed and the City must rely on the recommendations. The applicant asked if he could be able to get a letter from Steve Gallagos stating that if the facility continues to run things the way that are then would it be able to delete this Condidon or change the Condition at a later date. PAGE 11- PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES - Augusc 07, 2002 Conunissioner Nash pointed out to the applicant that the letter, which was received, is over a year ago. He stated that it might be possible to have the Fire Department re-assess the area, since it has been more than one year since the letter was written. Chairman Barnes asked if this could be handled internally by the Community Development Director. The applicant agreed. Chairman Barnes asked the applicant on what type of refreshments are sold at the facility The applicant stated that they currendy have a hot dog cart, which also sells drinks as well. He indicated that he does have a pernut for the cart. He stated that the cart is located under a canopy for shade, and is not a permanent structure. Chairman Barnes asked the applicant if he has a business license to run the cart. The applicant stated that he does not operate the business, another business operates the cart. However, he indicated he will check on it. Chairman Barnes asked Staff if they grade over 50 cubic yards, would they need a grading pemut. City Engineer O'Donnell stated that they would not need an Engineering Plan because it is not for structures, it would just be a site plan showing where the hills would be. Chairman Barnes asked if there were any other questions. Community Development Director Brady asked about one other Condition for consideration, which was prepared by out Attorney's office. He stated that Condition No. 44 would read applicmu shall defend za~ith caerncil ma.wnably accessible to City indermufy bdd hanrdess C~ty, it's anpl4}r~s, agazts cr~rd it's of~rcidls fram mry liubiliry darins, suits, aczions, arbizration p~rocredirgs, ar administratice prac~a'mgs, rEgulatory proc~l'mgs, losses, ex~rrses, ar costs of mry kiax~ wl.ether ac[z~al, all~el ar~ actiral attomey f~s of incurn~l by Cily, caairrt costs, interest, defe~ase msts, including ex[~erG zeniness fces, rn cvzy otl~er-msts, ar experises of arzy kind7zdiat so eter, witlaaut res[~zctions ar limitations incurn~l va >rldtion to ar a corrsequ~n~ of, ar riszng out of, rn in mry zwzy attributable, actrrally, illEgibly ar implied in ~le ar in part to appmc~al by the City, iu ad~isory ageru"tes, a~[~eal lax~rds ar legislatice lx~dy mncerrtfng CUP 2001-OS Lake Elsirwre Motzxross, BMX racmg and training tract and or Mitigate Negati~ Daclaration. 2002-02. Deputy Attorney Miles stated that the Condiuon only applies to the approval of the Mitigated Negative Declaration and the CLIP. Cha~rr„ar, Barnes asked if there were any other questions from the Coininissioners. Cominissioner LaPere stated that he still has questions regarding Condition No. 4 and 5 PAGE 12 - PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES - August 07, 2002 Community Development Director Brady requested to go through each Condiuon that was in question, and then get a consensus from each Commission on their opinion. Community Development Director Brady asked about Condition No. 4 where it discusses the noise issue. It was decided by all Cominissioners to have the noise study conducted annually. He noted that the Condiuon would then change from every six months to annually. He asked about Condition No. 5 where it discusses the air quality study to be conducted every sis months. Vice Chairxnan Matthies asked if it was necessary to use the Ciry's analyst or could the applicant use the analyst that was considerably less. Community Development Director Brady stated that it would be the City who would have the study conducted, and it would be the City to select the consultant. Plamiiug Manager Villa pointed out that it is necessary that the City selects a qualified consultant, in the event, the City is ever challenged on the adequacy of the study. Deputy Attorney Miles stated that the consultant could be mandated to conduct the analyst and prepare the documents. He stated that the City has to certify the findings and be comfortable with the decision. It was decided by all Commissioners to have the study conducted annually. Community Development Director Brady asked about Condition No. 7 where it discusses to relocate the pay booth due to the elevation being in a flood plain. He stated that on this Condiuon it would be necessary to re-word the Condiuon to state that it would be necessary to relocate the pay booth to an elevation of 1,267 or above. He continued to say that any additional security booth structure would be required on the tower area. Community Development Director Discussed Condition No 8 where it discusses the $5,000 cash bond for guarantee proper removal of structures, Condition No. 9 discusses the cash bond for $20,000 to guarantee the proper reversal of all grading at the site, and Condition No. 10 discusses that a cash bond of $20,000 shall guazantee the removal of potentially contamuiated soil. He asked the Conunission if they all agreed on these Conditions. Chairman Barnes agreed. Comrnissioner Uhhy agreed. Commissioner Nash stated that he agrees on the bonds, however he feels that they could be reduced. He asked if it could be a general site bond, instead of separate bonds. Community Development Director Brady stated that he would like to see them separate. He stated that if the Cominission decided to change the amount, we would know which one to change. PAGE 13 - PLANNING CONIMISSION MINUTES - August 07, 2002 Deputy Attorney Miles stated that there is a plus and negative side to lumping the cash bonds together. He stated that one would be if their were a call on the cash bond, it might be to the City's disadvantage, because it would be a call on the full face value of the bond. Ciry Engineer stated that he would agree to reduce the cash bond for Condition No 9 from $20,000 to 15,000 however, he recommends on leaving it the way it is. Condition No 8 would remain as is. Community Development Director stated that Condirion No. 11 would be removed. All Commissioners agreed. Comtnission LaPere asked that if Condiuon No. 11 was part of the municipal code, then are we changing that code too. Community Development Director Brady stated that we were not changing the code, we were just eliininating the Condition. Communiry Development Director Brady asked about Condition No. 16 where it discusses the hours of operauon. He indicated that the Condition would be left as is for now. All Commissioners agreed. Community Development Director Brady asked about Condition No. 24 that discusses the use of a private EMT service. He stated that we could add a sentence that would state that modification would be subject to review and approval by the Fire Chief and the Community Development Director. Chairxnan Barnes disagreed. He indicated that he would like to delete the second sentence, which states that 2 EMT personnel will be required dw-ing the week. Comxnissioner Nash asked the applicant if he has any contace with the Fire Chief. The applicant stated yes. Conuiussioner Nash indicated that it might be in his best interest to have the Fire Chief review this situation now, and have his recommendations addressed in a letter, and then reviewed by Staff and the Community Development Director. It was all agreed to have the Condition No. 44 changed to read Ambcdcmce se~v~ice and EMT ~rquirona~ts shall l~ subjat to appm~rl of tl.~ Fire Chief and Can~rnzmzty Dettlo[anent Dzrazrn: There being no Iurther comments, Cha;,,,,a„ Barnes asked for the reading of the resolution and closed the Public Hearing at 8:40 PM. PAGE 14 - PLANNING CONIMISSION MINUTES - August 07, 2002 MOVED BY LAPERE SECONDED BY MATTHIES AND PASSED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO ADOPT RESOLUTION NO. 2002-29 A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA, ADOPTING MITIGATED NEGATIVE DECLARATION NO. 2002-02 FOR THE APPROVAL OF CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 2001-05 MOVED BY NASH, SECONDED BY LAPERE AND PASSED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THESE PRESENT TO ADOPT RESOLUTION NO. 2002-30, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING CONIMISSION OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA, APPROVING CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 2001-05 WHICH ENTAILS ALLOWING CONTINUATION AND EXPANSION OF AN EXISTING INTERIM/TEMPORARY MOTOCROSS PRACTICE AND TRAINING FACILITY AT APN 370-030-012 WITH THE PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED REVISIONS TO CONDITION NO. 44 THE PLANNING CONIMISSION RECESSED AT 8:45 PM THE PLANNING CONIMISSION RECONVENED AT 8:52 PM 3. Conditional Use Permit No. 2002-05. Design Review for Industrial Project No. I 2002-02, and Mitigated Negative Declaration No. 2002-03 - APN 377-130-028. Churmau Barnes opened the Public Hearing at 8:52 PM Community Development Director Brady requested that Associate Planner Miller review the project with the Plazuiiug Cominission. Associate Planner Miller stated that this request is for a Conditional Use Permit for outdoor storage and Design Review for 12 lot industrial buildings. She stated that an associated 12 Parcel Map has also been submitted and will be reviewed this evening. She stated that the Mitigated Negative Declaration has been completed for the Industrial Project as well as the associated Tentative Parcel Map 30181 and neighboring Parcel Maps 30395 and 30396. She stated that Parcel Maps 30395 and 30181 are being reviewed at this time. Associate Planner Miller stated that the development is proposed to be developed in two phases. She stated that the first phase consists of seven parcels. She stated that each parcel includes an industrial building, parking, landscaping, and outdoor storage area. She indicated that the outdoor storage area would be enclosed with wall and rolling opaque gate. She stated that the applicant went over the lot coverage by 2.6% on two lots. She stated that all other lots complied with the code. She indicated that Staff found this slight deviation to be acceptable. She stated that the project meets the requirements of the City's parking requirements, however she indicated that if the applicant intends on adding additional office area, a review from the Community Development Director would be required. PAGE 15 - PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES - August 07, 2002 Associate Planner Miller requested that the Plamiing Cominission adopt a Resolution and approve Conditional Use Permit No. 2002-05, adopt a Resolution recommending the City Council certify Mitigated Negative Declaration No. 2002-03 and approve the Design Review for Industrial Project No. 2002-02. This recommendation is, based on the Finding, Exhibits and Conditions of Approval. Associate Planner Miller stated that the applicant is present to answer any quesuons. Chairman Barnes requested the applicant to approach the table for questions. Carl Johnson, 30500 Caliente, Canyon Lake, CA, read and agreed to the Conditions. The applicant did not have any questions for the Commission. Commissioner Nash stated that Staff had done a great job in preparing the project. He asked the applicant if he had any problems with flood control. The applicant indicated no. Cominissioner Nash indicated that the applicant has also done a good job with the project, and had no further questions. Vice Chairman Matthies concurred with Conurussion Nash on the job well done. She indicated the design of the building. She had no further questions. Cominissioner L7lilry asked the applicant if the handicap parking was large enough to accommodate a van. The applicant indicated that he just follows the rules to meet the code. Cominission Uhlry indicated that the sometime the parking lots for the handicap are tight on one side. Conrad Reiger 4044 Carmexuta Circle, Temecula CA indicated that he is the Architect of the project. He stated that the parking spaces provided are van accessible, and meet all codes. Cominissioner Uhlry had no fixrther questions Comcnissioner LaPere stated that the project looked very nice. He stated that Staff has done an excellent job. He had no furtlier questions. Chairman Barnes concurred with the other Commissioners on the design of the project. He asked Staff about the traffic fees that would be unposed on the project. City Engineer O'Donnell stated that the new traffic fee would supercede any of the other Conditions of the project. He indicated that the applicant would need to pay for the traffic Mitigation fee the Council adopted. Chairman Barnes had no further quesuons and closed the Public Hearing at 9:00 PM PAGE 16 - PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES - August 07, 2002 MOVED BY MATTHIES SECONDED BY UHLRY AND PASSED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THESE PRESENT TO ADOPT RESOLUTION NO. 2002-31, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CIT'Y OF LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA, RECOMMENDING TO THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE CERTIFICATION OF MITIGATED NEGATIVE DECLARATION NO. 2002-03. MOVED BY LAPERE, SECONDED BY UHLRY AND PASSED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THESE PRESENT TO ADOPT RESOLUTION NO. 2002-32, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANIVING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA, APPROVING CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 2002-05 FOR OUTDOOR STORAGE FOR AN INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX (INDUSTRIAL PROJECT NO. 8 2002-02) LOCATED AT PASADENA STREET AND CENTRAL AVENUE - APN 377-130.028. MOVED BY NASH, SECONDED BY MATTHIES AND PASSED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THESE PRESENT TO ADOPT A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA, RECOMMENDING CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL OF DESIGN REVIEW FOR INDUSTRIAL PROJECT NO. I 2002-02, TO BE LOCATED AT PASADENA STREET AND CENTRAL AVENUE - APN 377-130-028. 4. Chau-mazi Barnes opened the Public Hearing at 9:04 PM Community Development Director Brady requested that Associate Planner Miller review the project with the Plazuiuig Commission. Associate Planner Miller stated that this is a Parcel Map to subdivide approximately 6.6 acres of land into twelve industrial parcels. She stated that the parcels range in size from 17, 071 square feet to 29,609 square feet. She stated that the parcels are in the M1 zone, which requires a niiuiinum of 20,000 square feet. She indicated that a Planned Unit Development might have smaller lot areas if the project is master planned and share reciprocal facilities such as parking and access. Associate Planner Miller commented that the applicant has provided the required amount of parking spaces for each parcel. She stated that because of this the applicant has requested that Condiuon No. 17 be revised by removing the word "parking", and the rest would remain the same as shown. Associate Planner Miller requested that the Planning Conuiussion adopt a Resolution recommending City Council certify Mitigated Negative Declaration and adopt a Resolution recommending City Council approve of Tentative Parcel Map No. 30181 based on the Findings, E~ibits, and subject to the Conditions of Approval. PAGE 17 - PLANNING CONIMISSION MINLITES - August 07, 2002 Chairman Barnes requested comments from the Comrnission Vice Chairman Matthies asked Staff on the decision of removing the word "parking" from Condition No. 17. Associate Planner Miller indicated that Staff agreed to the revised Condition. Vice Chairman Matthies stated that she had no further questions. Commissioner Nash had no questions. Comnussioner LaPere had no questions. Coimnissioner Uhlry had no questions. Chainnan Barnes had no questions, and requested the reading of the Resolution, and closed the Public Hearing at 9:06 PM. Associate Planner Miller stated that the City Engineer O'Donnell had just noticed that in the Condiuon No 56, the word "parking" should be removed as well. All Conuiussioners agreed. MOVED BY UHLRY, SECONDED BY NASH AND PASSED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO ADOPT RESOLUTION NO. 2002-34 A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA, RECOMMENDING CIT'Y COUNCIL APPROVAL OF TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP 30181 LOCATED AT PASADENA STREET AND CENTRAL AVENUE - APN 377-180-028 WITH THE FOLLOWING MODIFICATIONS TO CONDITIONS NUMBER 17 AND 56: ll. The applicant shall record a CC&R that provides for irrevocable reciprocal ~g circulation, ingress and egress, loading and landscaping maintenance easements in favor of all lots. It shall also enforce standards of building maintenance and participation on landscape inauitenance. The Community Development Director prior to building permit shall approve the CC&R 56. Applicant shall cause to be recorded a CC&R which provides for irrevocable reciprocal ~g, circulation, loading and landscape maintenance easement in favor of all lots subject to the approval of the Director of Community Development & the City Attorney. The CC&R shall enforce standards of building maintenance, participation in landscape mauitenance, prohibition of outside vehicle or material storage. PAGE 18 - PLANNING COMMISSION MINLITES - August 07, 2002 5. Tentative Parcel Map No. 30395 and Mitigated Ne~ative Declaration No. 2002-03 (APN 377-140-017 and 019~ Chairman Barnes opened the Public Hearing at 9:07 PM Community Development Director Brady requested that Associate Planner Miller review the project with the Plauuiug Comnussion. Associate Planner Miller stated that this project is a Parcel Map that will subdivide 9.7 acres of land into six industrial pucels. She indicated that the sizes range from 20,038 square feet to the largest, which is 190,338 square feet. She stated that this parcel has a history of Conditional Use Permit (C,'[JI'~ that was approved by Plaiuiuig Conuiussion on May 2, 2001 for outdoor storage. She indicated that the storage would be allowed for 10 years to the year 2011. She stated that a requirement on Conditional Use Permit is when street improvements or building pernuts were applied for a constructed 6-foot block wall along Pasadena Street. She stated that because of this, Condition 18 was placed on this map. Associate Planner Miller requested that the Plauning Conmussion adopt a Resolurion recommending City Council approve Tentauve Parcel Map No. 30395 based on the Findings, Exhibits, and subject to the Condiuons of Approval. Chairmau Barnes requested comments from the Planning Comnussion. The Comnussion had no comments, and Chairman Barnes closed the Public Hearing at 9:08 PM. MOVED BY LAPERE, SECONDED BY MATTHIES AND PASSED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THESE PRESENT TO ADOPT RESOLUTION NO. 2002-35 A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA, RECOMMENDING CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL OF TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP 30395 LOCATED AT PASADENA STREET AND CENTRAL AVENUE AND THIRD STREET - APN 377-140-017& 019. 5. Tentative Parcel Map No. 30680 Cha~rman Barnes opened the Public Hearing at 9:10 PM. Community Development Director Brady requested that Pluuiing Manager Villa review the project with the Pla.nning Commission. Pluuiing Manager Villa stated that Alesco is the Developer. He indicated that the applicant is proposing to subdivide 6 acres of vacant land into two parcels pursuant to the requirements of Section 16.24 which is the subdivision ordinance and Section 17.56 which is the Limited Manufachn-ing Zoning of the LEMC. PAGE 19 - PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES - August 07, 2002 Planning Manager Villa stated that the Coimnission acted on several applications in June, which are related to this project. He stated that the projects were an Amendment to the Liberty Specific Plan No. 93-3 and the Amendment to the Land Use Element of the General Plan, a Zone Change and Industrial Project Design Review. He stated that this would actually fiuther subdivide into 2 separate parcels. He stated that Parcel No. 1 is proposed at 2.5 acres and Parcel No. 2 is proposed at 3.5 acres. He stated that both parcels would be required to dedicate addiuonal right of way on Cereal Street and Corydon Street. Planning Manager Villa stated that the subdivision has found that the lots sizes and parcels meet the xninimum requirements under the M-1 Zoning standards. He indicated that the previous Mitigated Negative Declarauon that was prepared for the projects were heard in June cover the aspects of the subdivision as well. Plamiing Manager Villa stated that Staff has found this project to be acceptable and recommends that Plaiuiiug Commission adopt a Resolution that would recommend that Ciry Council approve a Tentative parcel map No. 30680, based on the following Findings, and Exhibits. Chau-man Barnes requested comments from the public. Hearing no comments Chairman Barnes requested comments from the Cominission. There were no comments from the Coimnission, therefore Chairman Bames closed the Public Hearing at 9:12 and requested the reading of the Resolution. MOVED BY NASH, SECONDED BY LAPERE AND PASSED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO ADOPT RESOLUTION NO. 2002-36, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING CONIMISSION OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA, RECOMMENDING CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL OF TENTATIVE PARCEL MAI' 30680. BUSINESS ITEMS 7. Community Development Director Brady stated that this is a Minor Design Review for a Single Faznily Home and requested Plauning Manager Villa review it with the Commission. Planning Manager Villa stated that this is an application for a Minor Design Review for a Single Family home. He stated that the applicant proposes to build a 2,379 square foot home, to include a 903 square foot patio and decking. He stated that the LEMC requires fencing is to be utilized, however Plamiiug Manager Villa requested that the Comit~ission waive the fencing requirements since fencing would serve no purpose. PAGE 20 - PLANNING CONIMISSION MINUTES - August 07, 2002 Plaiuiuig Manager Villa commented that Staff has found this project to be acceptable and requested that the Planning Commission adopt a Resolution approving Minor Design Review far the Construction of a 2,379 square foot residenual located at 17555 Sunnyslope Avenue, based on the Findings, Eachibits and Conditions of Approval. Chairman Barnes requested the applicant approach the table for questions. Gary Jacobs - Lake Elsinore, stated that the lot was very difficult to work with because it is not flat. The applicant had no further questions. Cha;rman Barnes requested comments from the ComTnission. Cominissioner Nash asked the applicant if a perc test had been conducted. The applicant indicated yes. The applicant also indicated that he has obtained his permit for the septic tank, and that there are utilities as well. Conunissioner Nash stated that it is a great design and had no fixrther questions. Comcnissioner Ul~lxy asked the applicant on how he was able to dig the leach pit. The applicant did not approach the table and therefore his comments were not heard for the record. Vice Chairxnan Matthies stated that she is glad to see the different types of homes in the area. She thanked Staff for the good work. There were no further comments from the Comnussion. Chau-man Barnes requested the reading of the Resolution. MOVED BY LAPERE, SECONDED BY NASH AND PASSED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THESE PRESENT TO ADOPT RESOLUTION NO. 2002-37, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING CONIMISSION OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA APPROVING MINOR DESIGN REVIEW FOR A 2,379 SQUARE FOOT SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE LOCATED AT ll555 SUNNYSLOPE AVENUE 8. Minor Design Review of a Single Family Residential Project located at 31701 Can~ Ridge Drive APN 363-272-007. Community Development Director Brady stated that this is Minor Desi~ Review for a Single Family Home, and requested Community Development Technician Hennings to review it with the Pluuiing Comixussion. Communiry Development Technician Hennings stated that this is a Minor Design Review of a Single Family home, located on Canyon Ridge Drive. She stated that this home is located PAGE 21 - PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES - August 07, 2002 in the Revised Canyon Cxeek Specific Plan, also known as Suuitiiexhill. She indicated that the applicantintends on constructing a 2,263 squaxe foot two-stoiy house with a thxee-cax gaxage. She noted that the applicant would urilize Spanish style axchitect~e. She stated that the pxoject meets all the mi.,im~ xequixements of the LEMC and the Specific Plan. She xecommended to the Planning Coimnission to adopt a Resolurion appxoving a Minox Design Review for the construcrion of a signal family xesidence based on the Finding, Exhibits and Condition of Appxoval. Community Development Technician Hennings indicated that the applicant was pxesent howevex had to leave the meeting. Chainnan Baxnes xequested any comments fxom the public. Heaxing no comments, Cha~man Baznes xequested comments from the Coisunissionexs. Thexe wexe no comments fxom the Coisunissionexs, and thexefoxe Chairman Baxnes xequested the xeading of the Resolution. MOVED BY NASH, SECONDED BY LAPERE AND PASSED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THESE PRESENT TO ADOPT RESOLUTION NO. 2002-38 A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA APPROVING MINOR DESIGN REVIEW FOR A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE LOCATED AT 31701 CANYON RIDGE DRIVE, APN 363-272-007 9. Capitol Improvement Program fox Fiscal Year 2002-03. Community Development Dixectox Bxady stated that this item befoxe the Coimziission is fox the constxucrion of the Capital Impxovement Pxogxam, and xequested City Engineex O'Donnell xeview it with the Coimsussion. City Engineex O'Donnell stated that this Capital itnpxovement is consistent with the Genexal Plan. He indicated that the City Council appxoved it on July 9, 2002. He indicated that thexe axe 16 pxojects in all, which would cost in the range of 5 uullion dollaxs. Chaixman Baxnes xequested status on the Bridge on Summexhill. City Engineex O'Donnell indicated that it is completed. Chainnan Baxnes xequested any fuxthex quesrions. Thexe being no fuxthex quesrions, Chaixman Baxnes xequested the xeading of the Resolurion. MOVED BY UHLRY, SECONDED BY NASH AND PASSED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THESE PRESENT TO ADOPT RESOLUTION NO. 2002-39, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF T.AKF: ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA APPROVING THE CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 2002-03. PAGE 22 - PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES - August 07, 2002 INFORMATIONAL STAFF COMMENTS Communitv Development Director Bradv commented on the followin~ • He wanted to advise the Pluuiing Commissioner that there would be EDC luncheon on September 5, 2002 at the Diamond Stadium. • He also wanted to advise the Commission that on future project such as the Single Faziuly Residential projects that they may be approved internally to help expedite these types of project and to help lower costs of these types of projects. Comnussioner LaPere requested that the Coxxunission be provided a summary of the actions taken. Community Development Director Brady indicated that Staff could provide a list of what actions were taken internally. Plamiiug Manger Villa commented on the followin~ He advised the Conuiussion that the ne~t Planning Commission Meeting would take place on Wednesday August 21, 2002. He stated that Staff was hoping to have the meeting on Tuesday August 20, 2002, at 6:00 however due to a conflict of ineetings, it would be necessary to have it on the 21~`. The meetings will be held on Tuesdays, starting on September 3, at 6:00 PM. All Commissioners agreed to start on September. 3, 2002. PLANNING COMMISSIONER'S COMMENTS Commissioner Nash commented on the followin : • No comments. Vice Chairman Matthies commented on the followine: She wanted to Thank Staff for all the hard work and effort put into the Planving Comnussion meetings. Cominissioner L7hhy commented on the following: • No comments. PAGE 23 - PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES - August 07, 2002 Comrnissioner LaPere commented on the followine: • No comments. Chairman Barnes commented on the followine: • No comments. ADJOURNMENT MOVED BY LAPERE SECONDED BY MATTHIES AND Ct1RItIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO ADJOURN THE REGUI.AR PLANNING CONIMISSION MEETING AT 931 PM. Respectfully Submitted ~.-~Q,uo- C ~CU~'~-~¢ Dana C. Porche' Communiry Development Clerk ATTEST: MINUTES PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING CITY OF LAI~E ELSINORE 183 NORTH MAIN STREET LAKE ELSINORE, CA 92530 WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 21, 2002 The Regular Plaiuiing Cominission Meeting was called to order at 7:05 PM by Vice Chairwoman Matthies. The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Comtnissioner Ul~hy. ROLL CALL PRESENT: COMMISSIONERS: MATTHIES, UHLRY, LAPERE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: BARNES AND NASH Also present were Community Development Director Brady, Associate Planner Miller, City Engineer O'Donnell, Community Development Technician Hennings, and Deputy City Attorney Miles. PUBLIC COMMENTS NONE CONSENT CALENDAR MOVED BY NASH, SECONDED BY MATTHIES AND CARIZIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO APPROVE THE CONSENT cnr ENDARAS PRESENTED. la. Planning Commission Meeting Minutes of August 7, 2002 will be considered on the regular Planning Commission Meeting of September 3, 2002. PUBLIC HEARINGS None BUSINESS ITEMS 2. Minor Desien PAGE 2- PLANNING COMMISSION MINLI'i"ES - AUGUST 21, 2002 Communiry Development Director Brady stated that this is a Minor Design Review for two Single Family Residences, and requested that Community Development Technician Hexuiuigs review it with the Cominission. Community Development Technician Heruiings stated that this is a Minor Design Review for two manufactured homes. She indicated that one is located on Townsend Street between Lakeshore Drive and Heald Avenue, and the other is located on Townsend the corner of Pottery Street. She noted that the floor plan of 107 Townsend would have a Spanish Architecture to include a turn in garage, which complies with the Historic Elsinore Architectural Guidelines. Community Development Technician Hennings stated that the applicant has requested to have a block wall with Ple~glas between pflasters, in order to have a view of the lake. She noted that the other home of 320 Townsend will have the garage entry off Townsend. She stated that the main view of the home would be off Pottery. She stated that both homes comply cvith the LEMC and the Historical Elsinore Guidelines and Staff is recommending approval, based on the Findings, Exhibits and Condition of Approval. Community Development Technician Hennings indicated that the applicant is present for questions that the Commission may have. Vice Chairwoman Matthies requested any comments from the public. Delco Hagan, 431 Barham Avenue, San Marco CA is the developer for the project. He indicated that this project is relatively simple and that the homes are being constructed on in fill lots. He had no further questions at this time. Robert stated that he is also working on the project. He stated that he had submitted an alternate plan that shows an entrance off Pottery instead of Townsend. He stated that on Townsend, there is a considerable grade and for safety purposes, it would be more reasonable. Community Development Technician Hem~iugs stated that there had been some discussion of the newly proposed entrance off Pottery with Delco Hagan. She requested that the Ciry Engineer O'Donnell address this issue. Ciry Engineer O'Donnell stated that he would prefer to keep the entrance off Townsend. He stated that he would look at the plans again and address the issue later. The applicant had no further questions. Vice Chairwoman Matthies asked if there were any more comments from the public. Being no fiirther comments, Vice Chairwoman Matthies asked for comments from the Comtnission. PAGE 3- PLANNING CONIMISSION MINU'fES - AUGUST 21, 2002 Cominissioner Uhlry asked the applicant if the lot was large enough to accommodate a pool The applicant indicated that the lot could accommodate a small pool. He stated that the lot is 50 x 150. Commissioner Uhlty stated that his concern is that should a pool be put on the lot, it could create a step for someone to crawl over that additional3 feet. The applicant stated that the grade is seven feet lower than the existing grade. He indicated that should someone attempt to climb the grade to get to the wall, they would have a tough time doing it. Vice Chairwoman Matthies asked if there were any way that the Plexiglas could be flush with the block wall. The applicant stated it would not make any difference if he did that. He stated that the grade is very steep, and you would need a ladder to get up to the wall. He stated that the best part of the lot is the lake. He stated that if he were to put up a sis-foot fence, then it would block the view of the lake. Commissioner LJl~y asked the applicant if the house on the corner has the attached or detached garage. The applicant stated that the house on Townsend would have an attached garage. He stated that the house on Pottery is a detached garage and the hill off Pottery is very steep. The applicant stated that was one of his concerns, and the area has a blind spot, where you cannot see the on coming traffic. Commissioner Uhlry asked if there a way to have the driveway off the corner. The applicant stated that on his original design the driveway was to be off Pottery, but has since changed to come off Townsend. Coinmissioner Ul~liy had no fiirther questions Conunissioner LaPere stated that the Plexiglas is a great idea. He stated that he understands the concerns that Commissioner Uhhy has regarding the possibility of the pool being placed in the yard. He stated that the City Engineer should look at it, and if necessary a CUP would need to be issued if a pool were to be placed in the yard. Coimnissioner LaPere asked the applicant how thick is the Pleaciglas and would much force could the Ple~glas sustain should someone fall against it. The applicant stated that the Pleauglas is very durable. He indicated that you could run into it, and it would not break. He stated that the Plexiglas is 3/16`h of an inch thick Vice Chairwoman Matthies had no questions pertaining to the project. She recommended that Staff look into the issue of the garage entrance. There being no further comments, Vice Chairwoman Matthies requested the reading of the Resolution. PAGE 4- PLANNING COMMISSION MINL)TES - AUGUST 21, 2002 MOVED BY LAPERE, SECONDED BY UHLRY AND PASSED BY A 3-0 VOTE TO ADOPT RESOLUTION NO. 2002-40, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF LAI~E ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA, APPROVING MINOR DESIGN REVIEW FOR TWO SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE LOCATED AT 107 & 320 TOWNSEND STREET (APN 374-202-006 & 374-102-001). 3. Minor Desi~n Review of a Single Familv Residence located at 405 Potterv Street - APN 374-052-018. Community Development Director Brady indicated that this is a Minor Design Review for a Single Family Residence and requested Associate Planner Miller to review the project with the Comxnission. Associate Planner Miller stated that this is a Single Family Residence located in the Historic Overlay District on Pottery Street. She stated that the project site is located on two lots that have been recently merged to create one lot, approximately 16,000 square feet. She indicated that the applicant intends on constructing a 2,627 square foot manufactured home to include a 440 square foot two car garage on the site. She stated that the Historic Overlay District requires that all new construction have elements of various 1920 styles present in the Historic Standards. She indicated that Staff recognizes that it is difficult for offsite manufactured homes to meet these Standards. Therefore, she stated Staff looks for substantial compliance with the code. She stated that in this case, the proposed residence provides a craftsman style porch with pillars and railing of that era. Associate Planner Miller stated that the colors of the project will be beige stucco and the trim will be a dark brown and dark brown asphak shingle roof. She stated that the project is conditioned to provide landscaping and a six-foot City Standard wood fence. Associate Planner Miller noted that there are two unresolved issues. She stated that one is the placement of the garage and the other is the 20-foot right-of- way dedicauon. She stated that the first issue is the garage placement on the lot. She indicated that garage placement is a policy of the Plaiuiiug Division. She indicated that the garage is to be placed at either at the rear of the residence or separated from the residence with a inivimum of 10 feet. She stated that the Historic Standards states that the garage entrances from alleys, corners or sidelots are encourage preventing garage doors from dominating the street scene. Therefore, Staff is recommending adding Condition No. 21a to the Conditions of Approval to read "the applirmu shall ~loaue tlae gara~e to the mur of tl~ residerue or place it at a minnnwn of 10 f~t to the msiderne per the reu~tecvcozd approual of tlae Ccwrorttauiy Detelo[anauDi~tarardesign~„ Associate Planner Miller stated that the second issue is the dedication of the right-of-way. She stated that the right-of way dedication of 20 feet is a requirement of the General Plan. She stated that the set back requirement is also 20 feet. She stated that these two set backs totals 40 feet. She stated that the applicant refused to give the 20-foot dedication and choose a 10-foot right-of-way. She stated that due to this, Staff can not recommend approval for this project and recommends that Plaunuig Coixunission considers the PAGE 5- PLANNING COMMISSION MINCJTES - AUGUST 21, 2002 proposed project. She stated that if Plaxuiuig Conunission fmds that the Conditions of Approval are acceptable as presented Staff recommends Plam~ing Coinnussion adopt Resolution and approve the Minor Design Review for the construction of the 2,627 square foot residence and the 440 square foot garage to be located at 405 Pottery Street. She stated that these recommendations are based on the Findings, E~ibits and attached Conditions of Approval. Associate Planner Miller stated that the applicant is present to answer any questions that the Coxrunission may have. Vice Chauwoman Matthies asked if anyone from the public wished to speak regarding this project. Charles Neal (applicant~ 2017 North Corlett Avenue, Los Angeles. He stated that he was told that the garage could not be place in the front of the home. He indicated that the side entrance that leads into the garage is approximately a 7-foot set back. He stated that the other problem is dedicating 20 feet. He stated that it is not feasible to give up 20 feet to widen the street. He stated that 90% of the houses would have to be torn down. He stated that 20 x 100 is a lot of land to dedicate for a street that will never be widened. He also stated that it would not be safe for the kids to cross a street that wide. Luciano Gomez asked the Commission why the City is going to make the street bigger. He also asked whose idea was to have the street widen. Antonio Arreta stated that he has been living in the City of Lake Elsinore for 30 years. He stated that he has not seen very many improvements to the City. He stated that now the Ciry wants to come in and take 20 feet from all the residences on his street. He stated that his properry is located on the corner of Pottery and Poe. He indicated that should the 20 feet be dedicated, the house would need to be moved in order to allow the dedication. He indicated that he currendy is retired and the expense would be too much. He stated that all the neighbors are all in the same situation. He asked who was responsible for this decision and why were not the neighbors notified until now. Lois Urban, 314 N. Poe Street, Lake Elsinore asked where the 20 feet dedication measured. Jose Garcia has two houses on Pottery Street: He stated that if a 20 feet dedication taken, then that would mean 40 feet from him. He stated that the street does not need to be widen, because drivers already drive fast on that street. Vice Chaitwoman Matthies asked if there were any more questions from the public. Hearing no further questions, Vice Chairwoman Matthies requested comments from the Commission. Cominissioner LaPere asked Antonio Arreta to approach the table for questions. Commissioner LaPere stated that the homeowner is proposing the project. He indicated that the setback is being proposed for his project only. He stated that the two issues were PAGE 6- PLANNING COMMISSION MINLI'rES - t1UGUST 21, 2002 for the garage and for the 20-foot dedication. He indicated that these procedures were developed by the Ciry Standards for the Historic Overlay back in 1992. He stated that the garage which calls for a ininiinum of a 10 foot set back, and the set back from the road is part of the unifornury of the 1920 homes that were built during that time. He stated that the City must comply with these guidelines. Community Development Director Brady stated that the project before the Commission this evening is for the approval of the Single Family Home. He stated that the Comtnission is not gomg to approve the widening of the road. He stated that the City has a General Plan that is required by law. He stated that within that General Plan you have different elements and one of those is a circulation element. He noted that the circulation element was revised in 1995 which identifies the major streets. He stated that Pottery is one of the major streets. He stated that it is not the City intentions of widening the road at this time. He stated that the purpose of the 20-foot dedication is a case by case process, as properties develop along Pottery. He stated that there are not any plans at this time to widen the street. Antonio Arreta stated that he feels that if one person gives in, then the City will start asking everyone to give up the 20 feet. Community Development Director Brady stated that a church located on Pottery has already given up the 20 foot dedication, and the other project tonight as well. Commissioner Ul~liy requested Vice Chairwoman Matthies to call order, Antonio Arreta has had his three minutes to speak. Vice Chairwoman Matthies explained to the public that the Cominission and Staff would try to address each question. Community Development Director Brady also stated that one of the questions presented was where do they start measuring the 20 feet from. He stated that it is measured from the existing properry line. He stated that generally it is behind the sidewalk from the properry line. Associate Planner Miller commented that one of the questions presented was that they did not receive a notice of the projece. She indicated that the Ciry procedures are to send out a notice within the 300 feet radius of the project. She stated that the applicant provided the address labels with all the properties within that radius, so the property owners should have been notified. ComTnissioner LaPere stated that he has read the Zoning Code as it relates to the Historical Area of Lake Elsinore. He stated that the Standards that were approved in 1992 states the area should conform to the 1920's. He stated that Staff has included this as part of the Conditions, and therefore the applicant must comply with this request. PAGE 7- PLANNING CONINIISSION MINUTES - AUGUST 21, 2002 The applicant stated that this property once belonged to his Grandfather. He indicated that the lot once had three houses that had burnt down. He asked why does he now have to dedicate 20 feet of his properry. Commissioner LaPere stated that these criteria were established in 1992, so the Plauning Cotxunission has to follow those criteria. He stated that what the applicant is requesting, does not conform to what is now considered a Standard. He stated that it makes it difficult for the City to agree to allow one person to be an exception. Coxrunissioner LIl~y asked the applicant that the drawings show a 5-foot set back from the back of the house. The applicant stated that it is 5 to 7 feet. Commissioner Uhlry asked the applicant why could he not go back another 3 to accommodate 10 feet. He stated that the advantage that the applicant would have would be that if the garage were moved back 10 feet, it would open that window in the master bedroom. The applicant stated that this is a manufactured home. He stated that once the home is designed and built, they can not make changes. Coxsunissioner Ukilry stated that the plans appear to show window to be in the middle of the garage. The applicant stated that the onlywindow that is in the middle of the garage is the bedroom window, not the master bedroom. Vice Chairwoman Matthies stated that the Comxnission is under the assumption that the garage is along the side of the master bedroom. The applicant stated that the garage is on the other side. Cominissioner Uhlry asked the applicant why could he not move the garage back 3 feet. The applicant stated that the way the manufacture home is made, is that they are put together in three sections. He stated that they could not move that door back. Cominissioner ITl~lry stated that the only other option would be is to have a detached garage. Vice Chairwoman stated that the Historical District is trying to maintain the look of the existing homes in the area. She stated that in the past, the houses had the detached garage in the rear of the home. She stated that this is the look that Staff is following. She stated that this is based on the Standards that the City implemented in 1992. Cominissioner LaPere asked the applicant on how far would he be willuig to move the garage back. The applicant stated that he could not move it back any further PAGE 8- PLANNING COMMISSION MINUfES - AUGUST 21, 2002 Cominissioner Ul~lry stated that all of the new housing that is going up in the Historical area, must meet the 40 foot set back. He stated that Pottery is a major street in the City, and eventually repairs will be necessary. He stated that at that time, the City will consider widening Pottery. He stated that in order for that to happen, the City would need the right- of -way easement in order to put the street. The applicant stated that he has already checked with the utility companies. He stated that it would cost millions of dollars to widen Pottery. He stated that widening the road would not be feasible. Cominissioner Ul~y stated that the applicant must conform to the set back Standards The applicant stated that he would not dedicate the 20 feet. Cominissioner Ul~liy stated that he could not approve this project, if the applicant is not willuig to dedicate the 20 feet. Vice Chairwoman Matthies stated that it sometimes is difficult being a Planning Commissioner, as she said that they have certain rules to follow. She stated that she has lived in the City all her life as well as her Grandmother. She stated that this City has grown so much, and as the City grows, improvements need to be made. She stated that there are certain rules that must be followed. Commissioner LaPere asked the applicant if he would be willing to fiirtlier discuss the two main issues with Staf£ Community Development Director Brady stated that Staff has made the recommendations and Planning Conmussion could recommend approval of this project with the Conditions. He stated that the ordinance that implements the General Plan has been adopted by the Ciry Council, and Plazuiiug Commission can not change that. He stated that if the Planrung Cominission wishes to make a decision as to where the set back would be, we could unplement on what the Coininission approves. Depury Attorney Miles concun-ed with Community Development Direaor Brad~s recommendations. He stated that one of the concerns is that there is a difference of opinion. He stated that the government could take away private properry from private owners under certain circumstances without compensation. He stated that it happens all the time. He indicated the reason is due to building in the present year and what that means in terms of being a member of the public. He noted that the way it is set up as long as it has a basis, and the portion makes sense, then the City can do it. The applicant disagreed with the Deputy Attorney Miles. The applicant stated that he would set his properry back 40 feet, but the Ciry can not ask for 20 feet of his property. Deputy Attorney Miles stated that the City, this is what is happening. He indicated that unfomuiately, government can say, give us that strip of easement. PAGE 9- PLANNING CONIMISSION MINLTTES - AUGUST 21, 2002 The applicant disagreed with the Deputy Attorney Miles. He stated that the government could not say "give it to me," they can say, "we are taking it," but can not ask me to give it to them. He stated that it states no where in the government where it says "give me this," He stated that the government can say "we are taking this 20 feet for improvements," He stated that he received a letter from a City Council member that states that. He stated that he has no problems with having the City taking the 20 feet. Deputy Attorney Miles stated that there is a major distinction there. He stated that the Ciry could at any time chose to take the properry, and give compensation for it. He stated however they can also regulate your propercy. He stated that the City is asking for a Condition of Approval that an easement be granted and it is without compensation, because it is related to an entidement for the properry, and to the existing General Plan for the City. He stated that if the can not be done, then we can not make this specific findings to approve this project. He indicated that the Resolution states that this is consistent to the General Plan. He also indicated that a class three category exempuon, that states that if the City were to deviate from the General Plan we wouldn't be able to rely on a class three exemption under CEQA because it would be granting exemption for which there is an impaa to existing land. He stated that the City would not be able to grant an exemption, and the City would not be able to make the finding. Vice Chauwoman Matthies stated that the Coiiuiussion must comply with the set back, or the project can not proceed. She stated that the applicant does have the choice to make an appeal to the City Council. Community Development Director Brady stated that if the Coimnission wishes to approve the project this evening, with the required Conditions of Approval. He stated that Condition No. 21 a would be deleted. Commissioner LJhlty requested clarification of the set back. He asked if it was 5 feet or 7 feet. Associate Planner Miller stated that the set back is general. She stated that the Condition could read that it align with the side door. Vice Chauwoman Matthies asked for the reading of the Resolution. MOVED BY UHLRY, SECONDED BY LAPERE AND PASSED BY A 3-0 VOTE TO ADOPT RESOLUTION NO 2002-41, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF LAI~E ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA, APPROVING MINOR DESIGN REVIEW FOR A 2,627 SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE LOCATED AT 405 POTTERY STREET - APN 374-052-018. INFORMATIONAL NONE PAGE 10 - PLANNING CONIMISSION MINU'fES - AUGUST 21, 2002 STAFF COMMENTS Communitv Development Director Bradv • He wanted to advise the Commissioner that the next Chamber mi~cer would be held on Thursday, August 23, 2002 at the Lake Elsinore Ford at 530 PM. • He advised the Coimiussion that the League of Cities conference would take place on October 2 through the 5 in Long Beach. • He suggested to Mr. Neal that if he decides to make an appeal to the Ciry Council, then the cost would be $200.00, and an application to the City would need to be submitted. He stated that the statue of limitations is a 10-day period. PLANNING COMMISSIONER'S COMMENTS Vice Chairwoman Matthies commented on the followine: • She wanted to express to the audience on the importance of making the right decisions, and she esplained that sometimes it is a tough decision. Commissioner Uhhv commented on the following; He wanted to thank the audience for the patience and understanding. He stated that as progress is made, there would be changes made. He stated that it is going to take a Communiry effort. He wanted to thank Staff for all the hard work they have accomplished with regards to this project. Comxnissioner LaPere commented on the followinQ: • He concurred on Cominissioner Uhlry's comments on thaiiliuig Staff and the audience on the patience and work regarding the project. ADjOURNMENT MOVED BY UHLRY SECONDED BY LAPERE AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO ADJOURN THE REGULAR PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING AT 8:10 PM. PAGE 11 - PLANNING COMMISSION MINLI'I'ES - AUGUST 21, 2002 VICE CI-IAIRWOMAN MA7TF3IES Respectfully Submitted ~~C~ ~ ~~c.(~ ~ Dana C. Porche' Communiry Development Clerk ATTEST: ,V,rvL/,f~ A. Brady, Secretaryto e Comnussion / MINUTES PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE 183 NORTH MAIN STREET T"AKF ELSINORE, CA 92530 TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 3, 2002 The Regulax Planning Couzrxiission Meeting was called to oxdex at 6:00 PM by Chairman Baxnes. The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Coxmnissionex LaPexe. ROLL C T.T. PRESENT: COMMISSIONERS: BARNES, MATTHIES, UHLRY, LAPERE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NASH Also ptesent were: Community Development Ditectox Bxady, Planning Managex Villa, City Engineex O'Donnell, and Community Development Technician Hennings. PUBLIC COMMENTS NONE CONSENT CALENDAR Couunissionex LaPexe stated that the August 7, 2002 Minutes on page 21 paxag~aph 4, the sentence should have xead, Thexe wexe no furtber comments fxom the Conunissionexs. It was the consensus of the Commission to amend the Minutes as noted. MOVED BY LAPERE, SECONDED BY MATTHIES AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR AS PRESENTED. Minutes 1. a. Planning Cointnission Regulax Meeting - August 7, 2002 b. Planning Coinxnission Regulax Meeting - August 21, 2002 PAGE 2- PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES - SEP'I`EMBER 3, 2002 PUBLIC HEARINGS 2. Tentative Condominium Plan fot Parcel #2 of TPM No. 30680 and Design Review of Industrial No. 2002-03 "Blue Lake Condominium Business Paxk". Chauinan Barnes opened the Public HeaYing at 6:05 PM. Community Development Dixectox Bxady stated that the Tentarive Paxcel Map had come befoxe the Planning Commission pxeviously, and that this is fox furthex subdivision. He xequested that Planning Managex Villa xeview it with the Planning Comnvssion. Planning Managex Villa indicated that this is a two-acrion item. He stated that the applicant is xequesting a Tentarive Condoininium Plan fox Parcel 2 of TPM 30680. He indicated that City CouncIl appxoved the TPM at theix last meeting He stated that the applicant is xequesting a Design Review fox construcrion of thxee industrial buildings fox the industxial building complex. He noted that the thxee building would encompass 63,044 squaxe feet. Planning Managex Villa commented that Paxcel 2 is appxo~cimately 152,302 squaze feet in the axea. He stated that the pxoposal would include common axeas, and about 158 paxking spaces. He indicated that the applicant is pxoposing to pxovide appxo~cimately 30,467 squaxe feet of landscaping which is 20% of the lot. He stated that the site is located at the coxnex of Corydon and Cexeal, appxoxixnately 100 feet from the Skylaxk Aixpoxt. Planning Managex Villa stated that the Industrial Condomiuium concept is a new concept to the City. He stated that Staff has conducted extensive xeseaxch, to see how othex Ciries dealt with this type of pxoject. He stated that a common issue shaxed by all cities was the establishment of CC&R's to xegulate all common axeas, Landscaping xesponsibilities and infrastxuctuxe unpxovements. Planning Managex Villa stated that the pxoject has met all applicable development Standatds of the Municipal Code. He stated that Staff xecommended to the Planning Corcunission to adopt a Resolurion foz the Tentarive Condomiiiium Plan fox Parcel No. 2 of TPM No. 30680. He stated that in addition he xecommended that the Planning Couitnission adopt Resolution fox the Industrial Pxoject I 2002-03 based on the Findings, Exhibits and the pxoposed Condition of Appxoval. Chaixman Baxnes xequested comments fxom the Public. Thexe being no comments, Chairman Baxnes requested the applicant to appxoach the table fox quesrions that the Coxmnission may have. Jeff Sannex, Alesco Development, Woodland Hills stated that he had xead and agxeed to the Conditions of Appxoval. Chaixman Baxnes bxought the discussion back to the table fox Comtiussionexs comments PAGE 3- PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES - SEPTEMBER 3, 2002 Comnvssionex LaPexe stated that the pxoject looks very well put togethex Vice Chainvoman Matthies comxnented on the laxge blank wall on building "C." She indicated that eventually this blank wall would moxe than likely not be an issue once moxe development is added. Howevex, she stated that this is a pet peeve of hexs, and she pxefexs not to see blank walls. Planning Managei Villa stated that the Paxcel adjacent to the axea would be developed with similax structuxe eventually. Vice Chauman Matthies asked if a pattexn could be added to the wall, such as brick. She stated that she xealizes that some day the axea adjacent would be developed, howevex she does not the look of a blank wall. Planning Managex Villa stated that the applicant could xaise the paxapet wall, and make the same similax design as the fxont elevation. The applicant stated that they could make a ledgex band as pxoposed to xaising the p~apets. He stated that the ledgex band is appxo~mately 24 inches wide. He noted that it is detailed when the concxete panel is po~ed. He stated that it adds a diffexent colox band and textare to the building, giving a moxe attxacrive appeaxance. Chauinan Baxnes asked Vice Chaixwoman Matthies if she wished to adjust a Condirion Vice Chaixwoman Matthies asked Staff fox a xecommendarion. Planning Managex Villa noted that a Condition could be added to include the ledgex band. Community Development Dixectox Bxady stated that Staff could add and amend the woxding to Condition No. 19. Vice Chaixwoman Matthies stated that she norices the compact spaces in the pasking lot. The applicant stated that the compact spaces were pxovided fox a xeason. He stated that the pxoject is actually ovex the code paxking xequixements, and could accommodate the laxgex pasking spaces. Vice Chaiiwoman Matthies had no fi~thex questions. Coxxunissionex Uhhy joined the meeting at 6:10 PM. He stated that the compact paxking space has been xesolved. The applicant stated that one of the xequisements of the Condirions of Appxoval was to expand the alleyways. Cominissionex Uhlry had no fuxther comments. PAGE 4- PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES - SEPTEMBER 3, 2002 Chaixman Barnes hearing no furthex comments closed the Public Heaxing at 6:15 PM, and xequested the xeading of the Resolurion. MOVED BY LAPERE SECONDED BY UHLRY AND PASSED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO ADOPT RESOLUTION NO. 2002-42, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA, RECOMMENDING TO THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL FOR TENTATIVE CONDOMINIUM PLAN FOR PARCEL NO. 2 OF TPM NO. 30G80 MOVED BY LAPERE SECONDED BY UHLRY AND PASSED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO ADOPT RESOLUTION NO. 2002-43, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA RECOMMENDING TO THE CITY COUNCIL, APPROVAL OF DESIGN REVIEW FOR INDUSTRIAL PROJECT NO 2002-03, TO BE LOCATED ON CEREAL AND CORYDON STREETS - PARCEL NO. 2 OF TPM NO. 30680 WITH THE FOLLOWING REVISIONS TO CONDITION N0.19: 19. MATERIALS AND COLORS DEPICTED ON THE PLANS AND MATERIALS BOARD SHALL BE USED UNLESS MODIFIED BY THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR OR DESIGNEE. THE APPLICANT SHALL PROVIDE ONE ADDITIONAL ACCENT COLOR TO THE COLORS PROPOSED. THIS COLOR SHALL BE REVIEWED AND APPROVED BY THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR OR DESIGNEE. ADDITIONAL ENHANCEMENTS TO 7'HE REAR OF BUILDING "C" IN THE FORM OF A ELEPATION ENH~NCEMENT SHALL BE MADE SUBJECT TO THE SATISFACTION OF THE COMMUNI7Y DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR. 3. Conditional Use Permit No. 2002-04 and Design Review for Commercial Pcoject No C 2002-02. Chaixman Baxnes opened the Public Hearing at 6:20 PM. Community Development Duectox indicated that this is a xequest fox a Conditional Use Pernut and xequested Community Development Technician Hennings to xeview it with the Commission, in Associate Plannex Miller s absence. Community Development Technician Hennings stated that the CUP is fox a chuxch in a xesidenrial zone, and a Design Review fox the construcrion of the chuxch facility. She stated that the site is a 3.3-acxe paxcel, and is located at the coxnex of Gxape Street and Malaga Road. She stated that the access will be off Malaga Road. PAGE 5- PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES - SEPTEMBER 3, 2002 Community Development Technician Hennings stated that the facility would be a single stoiy 5,892 squaxe foot building, which would include a sanctuasy, two classiooms, a kitchen a pastox office, and othex miscellaneous xooms. She stated that thexe would be a svc-foot decoxarive block wall consteucted on the noxthem/eastexn pxopexty line, with 1 acxe xeseroed fox futare development. Community Development Technician Hennings indicated that the paxking spaces pxovided exceeds the minim~ paxking Lequixements of the LEMC. She stated that the CUP is fox genexal chuxch acriviries. She stated that the tcvo issues that axe c~xendy involved ase the noise and the ~affic in the axea. She stated that Chaptex 17.78 of the LEMC xegulates noise conteol and would covex any issues. She also stated that with regaxds to the tsaffic issue, Staff has analyzed the opexating houxs of the chuxch and has detertnined that the chuxch will opexate at altexnative times, and Olive Street could be used as a alternate street. She noted that the applicant is being xequixed to pay fees fox the fixtuxe associated xight-of-ways. Community Development Technician Hennings stated that Staff has found the pxoposed pxoject complies with the City of Lake Elsinoxe Genesal Plan and Municipal Code and Staff xecommends that Planning Coimnission adopt a Resolution to appxove the Conditional Use Pexmit 2002-04 and adopt a Resolution fox the City CouncIl appxove Design Review fox Commexcial Project No. C 2002-02 based on the Findings, Exhibits and Conditions of Appxoval. Chaixman Baxnes xequested comments from the Public in favox or against the pxoject. Plvl Saenz 23895 Via Delalinda, Muxxieta, Seniox Pastor of the church. He stated that the Bxead of I.ife Fellowship was in 1995 in Lake Elsinoxe, with five families. He stated that the congxegarion has gtown to 280+ and is c~xendy meeting at the Elsinare High School Theatex. He stated that the chuxch has membexs that come from all axound the axea and he feels that the chuxch is a gxeat asset to the Community. He xequested that the Plamiing Comtnission appxove theix xequest fox the building of theix ch~ch. Ronald Feenstra 3629 Lloyd Place, San Diego stated that he is a mobile ch~ch axchitect, and has woxked far the church as an axchitect fox ovex twenty-five yeaxs. He stated that the ch~ch keeps the pxopexty neat and clean up by maintaining the weeds, and xecommends to the Planning Commission appxoval of the pxoject. Chauman Barnes heaxing no fuxthex comments from the Public bxought the discussion back to the table fox comments fxom the Cotntiussion. Vice Chauwoman Matthies asked about the eastern elevarion of the building and wanted to know about the two classxooms. Art Lopez, membex of the Fellowship stated that on the eastside of the ch~ch thexe would be a sis-foot block wall, which is xequixed Staf£ He also stated that the tcvo classxooms would be used fox Sunday school childxen. Planning Managex Villa vexified the si~c-foot block wall PAGE 6- PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES - SEPTEMBER 3, 2002 Vice Chairwoman Matthies asked about the landscaping along the block wall Axt Lopez stated that the axea that would be landscaped would be the asea neax the two duveways, and azound the back of the chuxch. He stated that the axea along the block wall would be gxound covex. Coi7uivssionex LaPexe stated that Staff has done an excellent job, and had no furthex questions. Commissionex Uhlry asked about the south side of the ch~ch whexe the plans show futuxe paxkway and cuxb. City Engineex O'Donnell stated that at this time thexe would not be a cuxb. He stated that steeet impxovements would not be completed at this rime, howevex, the applicant would be xequixed to pay in-lieu fees. He noted that the axea would only be paved. CoiTUZUSSionex Uhlxy asked if thexe wexe plans to build a school in the neaz futuxe. Axt Lopez stated that the ch~ch plans in a few yeazs to develop a laxgex sanctuary ox a day caie centex to serve the community and the ch~ch. He stated that thexe axe no plans fox a school at this time. Coxsuiussionex Uhlry had no fi~thex comments Chaixman Baxnes stated that Staff has done a good job with the pxoject, and asked the applicant if they have xead and agxeed to the Conditions of Appxoval. The applicant stated yes. Chav tnan Barnes had no fixxther comments and closed the Public Heaxing at 635 PM. MOVED BY LAPERE SECONDED BY MATTHIES AND PASSED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO ADOPT RESOLUTION NO. 2002-45, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA, FOR APPROVAL OF CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 2002-04 FOR A CHURCH FACILITY, BREAD OF LIFE FELLOWSHIP CHURCH LOCATED AT GRAPE STREET AND MALAGA ROAD - APN 365-020-011. PAGE 7- PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES - SEPTEMBER 3, 2002 MOVED BY LAPERE SECONDED BY MATTHIES t1ND PASSED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO ADOPT RESOLUTION NO. 2002-44, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNLA, RECOMMENDING TO THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL OF DESIGN REVIEW FOR COMMERCIAL PROJECT NO. C 2002-02 FOR A CHURCH FACILITY, BREAD OF LIFE FELLOWSHIP CHURCH, LOCATED AT GRAPE STREET AND MALAGA ROAD - APN 365- 020-011. BUSINESS ITEMS None INFORMATIONAL None STAFF COMMENTS Community Development Dixectox Bxadv commented on the following p He wanted to advise the CoiTitiussionex that the annual EDC Luncheon will be held on Th~sday Septembex 5 p He stated that the League of the Cities would be held on Octobex 2, 2002 Plamiing Manager Villa commented on the following • He advised the Plannuig Coimnission the status of the Motocxoss and BMX facility. He stated that the Staff has met with the F~e Chief of Lake Elsinoxe and that the Fue Cl~ief xecommends that the Motocxoss facility have two EMT's and no ambulance at the site d~ing business houxs. The ambulance would be a iequ~ement during special events. • He stated that Staff cvill have a meeting with the applicant on Monday, Septembex 9 at the City Hall, and will go ovex the Conditions of Appxoval. PLANNING COMMISSIONER'S COMMENTS PAGE 8- PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES - SEPTEMBER 3, 2002 Chaituian Barnes commented on the following• • Thanked Staff fox making it easiex fox the Planning Commission pxepaxed fox the meetings. Vice Chauwoman Matthies commented on the followinQ~ p She noted that the City's xodeo was a gxeat success and congxatulated Commissionex Uhlxy. She stated that City Council expxessed the~ xecognirion to Commissionex Uhhy fox the excellent job with the xodeo and pxesented to hnn an awazd at the last City Council meeting. Coinuvssionex Uhlry commented on the following • He stated that he is glad to see that the Bxead of Life Fellowship is moving fonvard with the church plans. He noted that the designs of the chuxch look good and looks foicvaxd to seeing it grow with the community. Comnvssionex LaPexe commented on the followina: p He thanked Staff for all the haxd woxk. ADJOURNMENT MOVED BY MATTHIES SECONDED BY LAPERE AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO ADJOURN THE REGULAR PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING AT 7:00 PM. Respectfully Submitted PAGE 9- PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES - SEPTEMBER 3, 2002 y~/~~q// ~ ~l~(.(if/VYIv ~' ~ Dana C. Poxche' Community Development Clexk ATTEST: i~obext A. Bxady, Secretary to Planning Cominission ~ MINUTES PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE 183 NORTH MAIN STREET T.AKF ELSINORE, CA 92530 TITESDAY, SEPTEMBER 17, 2002 The Regulax Planning Commission Meeting was called to oxdex at 6:01 PM by Chaixman Barnes. The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Cointinssionex Uhlry. ROLL C T.T. PRESENT: COMMISSIONERS: BARNES, MATTHIES, NASH, LAPERE, AND UHLRY ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE Also ptesent wexe: Community Development Dixectox Bxady, Associate Plannex Millex, City Engineex O'Donnell, Community Development Technician Henniugs, Community Development Clexk Poxche' and Deputy City Attoxney Steve Miles. PUBLIC COMMENTS NONE CONSENT CALENDAR NONE MOVED BY MATTHIES, SECONDED BY UHLRY AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR AS PRESENTED. Minutes 1. Septembex 3, 2002 PAGE 2- PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES - SEPTEMBER 17, 2002 PUBLIC HEARINGS 2. Conditional Use Petmit No. 2002-OG - Instant Fun for Kids located at 313G1 Riverside Drive (APN 379-160-015~ Chairman Bames opened the Public Heaxing at 6:03 PM, and xequested the Staff Repoxt. Community Development D~ectox Bxady stated that this is a Conditional Use Pexmit fox a family style pizza xestauxant, and xequested that Community Development Technician Hennuigs xeview it with the Cotmnission. Community Development Technician Henning stated that this CUP is fox a pxoject called Instant Fun Fox Kids, which is to be located at 31361 Rivexside Dxive at the comex of Rivexside Drive and Walnut Stxeet in the Patxicia Plaza. She stated that it would be a family style pizza xestaarant that would have maxiinum of 25 electronic azcade games. She indicated that Staff has pxoposed a Condition of Appxoval that would lixnit the numbex of games to no moxe than 25 and that the axcade axea to no moxe than 2000 squaxe feet. She indicated that the pxoposed hours fox the xestai~ant would be fxom 10:00 AM until 10:00 PM, seven days a week. Community Development Technician Henniugs commented that the LEMC does not pxovide paxking standaxds fox axcades. She stated that Staff is pxoposing that 6ne space is pxovided far every 200 squaxe feet of arcade axea. She indicated that the applicant is xequesting fox considerarion of a CUP fox shaxed pasking. She stated that shated paxking is pennissible undex Secrion 17.66.070 of the LEMC. Community Development Technician Hennings stated that all of the xetail uses close aftex 6:00 PM thexefoxe leaving all the paxking spaces available to the pxoposed restauxant. She stated that the xestauxant's peak hours of opexation would be fxom 7:00 PM to 8:00 PM. Community Development Technician Hennings xequested that the Planning Commission adopt a Resolurion to approve the Condirional Use Pexmit based on the Findings, Exhibits, and Conditions of Appxoval. Chaixman Bames xequested comments from the Public in favox ox against the pxoject. Thexe being no comments from the Public, Cha~man Bames xequested the applicant to appxoach the table fox quesrions that the Coininission may have. Applicant Wah Taing, 31361 Rivexside Drive, stated that he has xead and agxeed to the Condirions of Appxoval and looks foxcvaxd woxking with the City and Staff. Chaixinan Bames bxought the discussion back to the table far Commissionexs comments Commissionex LaPexe arrived at 6:07 PM. Conunissionex Uhhy asked the applicant if the landloxd agxeed to Condition Numbex 13. PAGE 3- PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES - SEPTEMBER 17, 2002 Gary Washburn, Lake Elsinoxe, a xepxesentarive fox the applicant appxoached the table and indicated that the applicant is the landloxd. Coimuissioner Uhlxy had no fuxther questions Vice Chaixwoman Matthies stated that she likes the idea of a family style pizza xestauxant and had no fuxthex quesrions. Coxxunissionex Nash stated that he has seen the woxk of the Applicant in the past and he runs a clean business. He stated that he is glad that the applicant puxchased the plaza. He had no fi~thex questions. Commissionex LaPexe asked the applicant if there would be any alcoholic bevexages served at the xestauxant. Applicant Wah Taing stated that in the fixtuxe thexe would be plans for serving alcoholic bevexages, and would apply fox a license latex. Cotxunissionex LaPexe asked if the paxking issue was agxeed to. The applicant stated yes. Commissionex LaPexe had no fuxthex questions. Chaixman Baxnes asked the applicant about Condition Numbex 13, and what would happen should the business be sold latex. Community Development Dixectar Bxady indicated that the agxeement fox shared paxking is xecoxded against the deed, and that it xuns cvith the pxopexty. There being no fuxthez comments, Chauman Bames closed the Public Heaxing at 6:11 PM, and xequested the xeading of the Resolution. MOVED BY LAPERE SECONDED BY MATTHIES AND PASSED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO ADOP'I" RESOLUTION NO. 2002-46, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA, APPROVING THE RESTAURANT AND ARCADE WITH THE PROVISION OF SHARED PARHING AT INSTANT FUN FOR HIDS, WITHIN PATRICIA PLAZA, LOCATED AT 31361 RIVERSIDE DRIVE (APN 379-160-015). 3. Zone Chan~e No. ZC 2002-04 and Design Review for Residential Project No R 2001-12. Multi-family Apartment Complex on Rupard Street & Pottery Street - APN 377-313-013. Chaixman Bames opened the Public Heaxing at 6:12 PM, and xequested Staff's Repoxt PAGE 4- PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES - SEPTEMBER 17, 2002 Community Development Dixectox indicated that this is a xequest Zone Change and Design Review of a Residenrial Pxoject He xequested that Associate Plannex Millex xeview it with the Coinmission. Associate Plamiex Millex stated that this iequest is fox a Zone Change from R-1, Single Family Residential District to R-2, Medium Density and a xequest fox a Design Review of a iesidenrial multi-family pxoject. She stated that the pxoject site is cuxxendy zoned R-1, which is inconsistent with the Genexal Plan Land Use Map designarion of Medium Density. She stated that the Medium Density of the Genexal Plan allows densiries of up to 12 dwelling units pex acxe consistent with the R-2 zoning. She noted that the Genexal Plan supexcedes, thexefore, a zone change fxom R-1, Single Family Residenual District to R-2, Medium Residenrial was xequixed as paxt of the pxocess far considexation of the Design Review. She stated that the xesidential pxoject consists of 24 apaxtment units to be located at the comex of Rupaxd Street and Potteiy Street. Associate Plannex Millex commented that the pxoject is located cvithin Axea 3 of the Redevelopment Plan. She stated that the axea site is 1.7 net acxes ox 74,671 squaxe feet. She indicated that the apaxtment complex consists of tl~ee 6,480 squaxe foot buildings fox a total of 13,837 squaxe feet of building footprint. She noted that the applicant intends to build eight apaxtment units pex building. Associate Plannex Miller stated that one building would include eight, thxee beckoom units, and two buildings would have tcvo bedxoom and thxee bedxoom units. She indicated that all units would have a washer/dtyex so that a sepaxate laundry facility would not be xequixed. Associate Plannex Millex commented that the dwelling unit sized foi the two-beckoom unit would be 700 squaxe feet and 800 squase feet fox the t~ee-bedxoom unit. She stated that each unit would also be pxovided with 95 cubic feet of attached, enclosed stoxage space pex the xequixements of Secrion 17.24.170 of the LEMC. Associate Plannex Millex stated the applicant is pxoviding 24 covexed paxking spaces. She indicated that the paxking struct~e would haoe a gabled, tiled xoof that will match the apaxtrnent buildings. She noted that thexe would be 40 open paxking spaces, which would include fo~ handicap spaces fox a total of 64 paxking spaces and meets with the LEMC. She indicated that the applicant is also pxoposing to pxovide 6,100 squaxe feet of common open space axea that would include a playgxound fox childxen xesiding in the apastment complex. She stated that the playgxound would include a slide and swing set and would be enclosed with a tubulaL steel fence. Associate Plannex Millex stated that the proposed pxoject complies with the LEMC and xecommends that the Planning Coimiussion adopt a Resoluuon recommending City CouncIl appxove Zone Change No. ZC 2002-04, and adopt a Resolution, xecommending City CouncIl approval of Residential Pxoject No. 2001-12 , based on the findings, E~ibits and subject to the Conditions ofAppxoval. Chaixman Baxnes xequested comments fxom the Public. John Reese, Hexmosa Beach Axchitect fox the pxoject stated that the City of Lake Elsinoxe has been suppoxrive of this pxoject. PAGE 5- PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES - SEPTEMBER 17, 2002 Cha~tnan Bames iequested comments fxom the Coinuiissionexs. Commissionex LaPere asked Staff about Condirion Numbex 5 undex the Planning Division. Community Development D~ectox Brady stated that this is a standaxd Condition. Coininissionex LaPexe asked about the tubulax fencing that is to be used. Community Development Dixectox Bxady stated that fencing is not wxought ~on. He stated that the material is made out of tubulax steel and has the appeaxance of wrought ixon. Coimnissionex LaPexe asked about Condirion Numbex 42, whexe it discusses the dedication of a 5-foot wide strip along the right-of way on Rupaxd Street. Community Development D~ectox xefexred the question to the City Engineex. City Engineex O'Donnell stated that this would be paxtial unpxovements. He stated that the full unpxovements have been put on hold due to dxainage issues. Comtnissionex LaPexe had no fi~thex quesrions. Commissionex Uh1ty inquixed about the powex poles in the axea of the pxoject. The applicant indicated that the powex poles would be moved undexgxound. Comtnissionex Uhlxy had no fuxthex quesrions. Commissionex Nash concursed with the stseet unpxovements, and in-lieu fees. He stated that the pxoject looks nice. He indicated that he doesn't have any pxoblems with the extxa nnits, and had no fixxthex questions. Vice Chaixcvoman Matthies noted the playgxound. She asked the applicant if the chil~en in the axea would have to cxoss the paxking lot in oxdeT to get to the playgxound. She also asked if any benches wexe axound the playground axea. The applicant stated that the axea would have sidewalks that would lead to the playgxound. He indicated no pxovisions fox benches at the playgxound. Vice Chauwoman Matthies asked if benches could be added, and that a xevision could be made to the Condirions of Appxoval. She had no fuxthex quesrions. Chavinan Barnes stated that the pxoject looked gxeat. He asked the applicant if the e~sting teees in the axea would need to be moved. The applicant stated yes. PAGE 6- PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES - SEPTEMBER 17, 2002 Chautnan Bames asked if they could be incorpoxated into the axea. The applicant stated that the teees axe in the expanded road asea. He stated that they would try to keep them. Chauman Barnes asked about Condition numbex 49 whexe it discusses stYeet impxovements along Flint Stseet and a poxrion of Rupaxd. He stated that he would like the woxds changed to "Shall be". He also asked Community Development Dixectox Bxady what is Affordable Housing based on. Community Development Directox Bxady stated that it is based on household size. He stated that it vaxies fxom County to County. He indicated that the Housing Element of the Genexal Plan is appxoved. He stated that the Housing Element contains pxovision and a policy that allows density incxeases as a bonus, pxovided the applicant agxees to set aside units as affoxdable units. Thexe being no fuxthex quesrions, Chaixman Bames closed the Public Heaxing at 6:34 PM, and xequested the reading of the Resoluuon. MOVED BY MATTHIES SECONDED BY UHLRY AND PASSED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO ADOPT RESOLUTION NO. 2002-47, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA, RECOMMENDING TO THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE APPROVAL OF ZONE CHANGE NO. 2002-04 CHANGING THE ZONING DESIGNATION OF A PARCEL IDENTIFIED AS APN 377-313-0]3 FROM R-1 (SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL) TO R-2 (MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL). MOVED BY MATTHIES SECONDED BY LAPERE AND PASSED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO ADOPT RESOLUTION NO. 2002-48, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA, RECOMMENDING TO THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE APPROVAL OF THE DESIGN REVIEW OF RESIDENTIAL PROJECT NO. R 2001-12, A TWENTY FOUR (24) UNIT APARTMENT COMPLEX LOCATED AT RUPARD STREET AND POTTERY STREET, APN 377-393-0]3 WITH THE FOLLOWING MODIFICATIONS TO CONDITIONS: K: Sitting benches shall be installed in or adjacent to playground atea. 49. Street improvements shall be .:~°~~~ constructed along Flint Street and along a poxtion of Rupacd Stxeet. PAGE 7- PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES - SEPTEMBER 17, 2002 4. Zone Change Amendment ZCA No. 2002-01 Chavixian Barnes opened the Public Heasing at 635 PM Community Development D~ectox Brady stated that this is an amendment to various Sections of Tide 17, Zoning of the Lake Elsinoxe Municipal Code (LEMC) in accoxdance with Chaptex 17.84, Amendments, to xevise the land use xegularions xelated to chuxches, schools, and othex places of assembTy. He indicated that sevexal zones would be amended. He stated that the pxoposed amendments would be applied City wide and aze not confined to a single location of the City. He commented that it xepxesents about 19% of the City total land axea that this would affect. He noted that it does not include any of the Specific Plan axeas, as those have theix own zoning land use designations development standaxds. Community Development D~ectox Bxady stated that he would answex any quesrions that the Coxnmission may have xegaxding a specific zone asea. Cha~man Baxnes xequested any comments fxom the public. Thexe being no comments, Chautnan Barnes xequested comments from the Coinmission. Coisuzvssionex LaPexe expxessed his concexns if the vexbiage should be changed, whexe it discusses public paxks and playgxound. He also expxessed his concexns with chuxches and whexe they could be located. Community Development Dixectox Bxady indicated that the woxds "and/ox" could be added when discussing public paxks and playgrounds. He also indicated that theix wasn't a specific code that stated whexe churches could ox could not be developed. Thexe being no fuxthex discussion, Chaixman Bames closed the Public Heaxing at 6:55 PM, and xequested the xeading of the Resolution. MOVED BY LAPERE SECONDED BY MATTHIES AND PASSED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO ADOPT RESOLUTION NO. 2002-49, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA, RECOMMENDING APPROVAL TO THE CITY COUNCIL AMENDMENTS TO VARIOUS SECTIONS OF TITLE 17 ZONING, OF THE LAKE ELSINORE MUNICIPAL CODE IN ACCORDANCE WITH CHAI'TER 17.84, AMENDMENTS, TO REVISE THE LAND USE REGULATIONS RELATED TO CHURCHES, SCHOOLS, AND OTHER PLACES OF ASSEMBLY. ZCA 2002-01 WITH MODIFICATIONS TO THE ZCA. PAGE 8- PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES - SEPTEMBER 17, 2002 BUSINESS ITEMS NONE INFORMATIONAL NONE STAFF COMMENTS Community Development D~ectox Bxady commented on the following • He stated that the League of the Cities would be held on Octobex 2, 2002. PI.ANNING COMMISSIONER'S COMMENTS Chainnan Baxnes commented on the followinP: • No comments. Vice_Chairwoman Matthies commented on the followin • She xeceived a call from Susan Reid at the City Hall indicating thexe is a luncheon on Saturday. She indicated that she could not attend the meeting. • She thanked Staff fox a job well done on pxepaxing fox the Planning Coimnission Meetings. Commissionex Uhlry commented on the following • He concuxxed with the Counnission on thanking Staff fox all theix haxd woxk. Comnvssionex LaPexe comtnented on the following~ • He wanted to apologize fox being late fox the Planning Coimnission Meeting. • He also wanted to thank Staff fox their job well done. Commissionex Nash commented on the followin • He wanted to let the Commission know that he is going to be veiy busy in the next few months, and moxe than likely will not be able to attend any othex meetings, othet than the Planuing Coiiunission Meetings. • He thanked the Coimnission fox being parient while he was recupexating from his illness. PAGE 9- PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES - SEPTEMBER 17, 2002 ADJOURNMENT MOVED BY MATTHIES SECONDED BY LAPERE AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO ADJOURN THE REGULAR PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING AT 6:SSPM. BARNES, CHAIRMAN Respectfixlly Submitted ~~~~.~ ~ P~~ ~ Dana C. Poxche' Community Development Clexk ATTEST: ~, I~obext A. Bxady, Secxetary to Planning Coimnission MINUTES PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE 183 NORTH MAIN STREET LAKE ELSINORE, CA 92530 TUESDAY, OCTOBER 01, 2002 The Regulax Plauniiig Cotmnission Meeting was called to oxdex at 6:01 PM by Chaixman Barnes. The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Coimnissionex LaPexe. ROLL CAT.T. PRESENT: COMMISSIONERS: BARNES, MATTHIES, LAPERE, AND UHLRY ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NASH Also present wexe Community Development D~ectox Brady, Plannuzg Managex Villa, City Engineex O'Donnell, Community Development Clexk Poxche' and Deputy City Attorney Steve Miles. PUBLIC COMMENTS NONE CONSENT CALENDAR MOVED BY UHLRY, SECONDED BY LAPERE AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR AS PRESENTED. Minutes 1. Septembex 17, 2002 PAGE 2- PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES - OCTOBER 1, 2002 PUBLIC HEARINGS NONE BUSINESS ITEMS 2. Studv Session to Review and Discuss Amendments to Vacious Development R~nlations. Community Development Dixectox Bxady indicated that the purpose of this Study Session was to discuss in a xound table type of discussion the vaxious Development Regularions with the Planning Commission, and idenrify sevexal axeas that may need to be xevised ox updated. He indicated that the fixst standaxd that he wanted to discuss was the Paxking Standaxds fox commexcial and industrial uses, undex the Paxking Secrion 17.66 of the Zoning Code. He stated that cuxxendy the standaxd is designed fox compact caxs. He noted that today's cass and SW's axe considexably lasgex and paxking in a compact paxking space can be difficult. He indicated that Staff xecommends elimuiating the use compact paxking spaces, and xequiruig the full size paxking space in oux comxnexcial and 'mdustrial development. Commissionex LaPexe asked if theix wexe any Fedexal laws that states compact spaces axe xequixed Community Development D~ectox Bxady stated that he is not awaxe of any. Comxnissioner LaPere stated that a developex might be reluctant to agxee to this standaxd, since it would mean using more land. Cotmnissionex Uhlry indicated that a full size parking space would be a benefit, especially fox emexgency vehicles. Coi7itiussionex LaPere stated that in the 1970's the compact paxking spaces wexe pxovided, since caxs wexe smallex in the 1970's. Howevex, he indicated that today moxe vehicles aze laxgex, and Tequixe moxe space to paxk, and he agxeed to elinvnate the compact paxking spaces. Community Development D'uectox Brady stated that thexe would moxe than likely be some opposirion with this xevision, since it will xequixe the use of more land. Chaixman Baxnes indicated that the compact paxking spaces weie developex motivated, as the developex could meet the~ p~king xequixements using less land. Conunissionex Uhlry suggested the possibility to xeduce the amount of compact pasking spaces. PAGE 3- PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES - OCTOBER 1, 2002 It was unanimously decided to eluninate the compact spaces. Howevex, Community Development Dixectox Bxady indicated that should it evex become an issue then the Coxsunission could amend the code again. Community Development Dixector Bxady stated that anothex element of the paxking lots is the landscape azeas. He commented that pxesendy in the code it states that thexe is to be a minim~ of 5 feet of landscaping. He stated that Staff is xecommending having a fingex type of plantex axea to srick out of the paxking space, evexy 10 spaces. He indicated that the purpose of this xevision would help beaurify the parking axea, help xeduce the heat. He stated that the fingex would be appxo~cixnately 6 feet wide by 18 feet long. Community Development Dixectox Bxady stated that anothex axea of paxking that he would like to addxess is the paxking asea fox gaxages fox single family xesidenrial. He stated that typically the c~xent size fox the pasking azea of the gaxage is 20 x 20 feet. He commented that again with the lasgex types of vehicles of today's standatds, the paxking azea might need to be increased. He stated that anothex idea would be to lengthen the paxking axea fxom 20 feet to 22 feet, which would also accommodate fox xecxeational vehicles as well. Cha~man Barnes asked if we wexe setting minim~ ~ensions. Community Development Directox Bxady stated yes. He stated that there is a development in the City of Muxrieta that is offexing 8-foot gaxage dooxs instead of the 7-foot gaxage dooxs. He stated that they have a 26-foot deep tcvo bay gaxage axea. He indicated that this is useful fox those who have boats, ox RV's. He stated that the developex is using this as a maiketing featuee and they seemed to be selling veiy well. Chairman Baxnes asked what you would base the mir,im~ on. Community Development Directox Bxady stated that a possibility would be having the size of the home, ox amount of beckooms be a deciding factox. He stated an idea would be to look at what othex communities in the asea axe doing. Planning Managex Villa indicated that we might need to cxoss-xeference the building code, to see if thexe axe any niiniinum ox ma~cimum standaxds to make s~e that we axe not violating any othex codes. Coinmissionei Uhlxy asked if low-income housing needs to comply with this xevision. Community Development D~ectox Bxady stated that Staff would need to look at the Housing Element. Chauman Baxnes indicated that we might need to check the State ox Fedexal guidelines. Community Development Dixectox Bxady stated that the next axea to be xeviewed is the Manufactuxed Housing. He stated that the City has seen an incxeasing amount of homes coming into the axea. He stated that he has seen people moving oldex Manufactuxed Homes fxom othex locarions and would like Staff to look into unplementing an age xequixement of PAGE 4- PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES - OCTOBER 1, 2002 the home, such as 5 to 10 yeaxs. He xequested the Deputy City Attorney Miles to addxess this axea of concern. Deputy City Attoxney Miles stated that the City's posirion with xespect to Manufactuxed Homes would be to look at the Planning Code and Law. He stated that the City could not do anything that might pxohibit the use of Manufactuxed Homes as a concept. He commented that Manufactuxed Homes in the Histoxic Ovexlay District would need to comply with all the xequ~ements of the Historic Ovexlay axea. He noted that the same would apply to the building, elecuical and plumbing code. He stated that this would be a benefit to look into. Community Development Dixectoi Bxady stated that the City of Coxona has implemented a code that states, "The manufactuxed home must be cextified undex the Narional MobIle Homes Construction and Safety Standaxds Act of 1974 and must be installed on a foundarion system puxsuant to state law under this chaptex. A manufactuxed home shall not be eligible unless it was constructed within the ten-yeax pexiod pxiox to applicarion fox a building pexmit, was issued an insignia of appxoval by the California Department of Housing and Community Development ox the United States Depaxtment of Housing and Uxban Development, and has not been altexed in violation of applicable law." Community Development D~ectox Bxady indicated that the Manufacri~ed Homes would still need to go tl~ough the Minox Design Review pxocess, howevex the City would like to slighdy righten the xestrictions. Conuxussionex LaPexe concuxs. Comxnissioner Uhhy felt that five yeaxs was not enough. He noted that ten yeazs would be sufficient. All Coimnissionexs concuxxed. Community Development Dixectox Bxady anothex axea to be xeviewed was the wall and fencing matexials used in the City. He noted that Staff would like fox the wall and fencing standasds to be upgxaded. He noted that a possibility would be fox a block wall to be used in lieu of a wooden fence in the fxont of the house. He stated that anothex considexarion would be fox wxought ~on to be used. He also stated that thexe axe some new vinyl matexials that would xeplicate wooden fences and xequested that Planning Managex Villa xeview it with the Coniinission. Planning Managex Villa stated that lately fencing Manufactures have been coming up with new pxoducts fox fencing that ~e moxe duxable and attractive looking, and have xequested Staff and the Coisunission to look it ovex. He stated that these types of materials will last longex, and ate moxe duxable against the weathex elements, and easiex to install. Commissioner Uhlxy asked if this pxoduct would be used in lieu of the wooden fences. PAGE 5- PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES - OCTOBER 1, 2002 Plannuig Managez Villa stated that wooden fencing would still be used in the City, howevex Staff would like the Cominission to considex using the new vinyl fencing material on a uial basis in one teact. Chaixman Baxnes asked how easy it would be fox the homeownex to make any repa~s, do the materials contain any lead, and axe they easily to coxrode. Community Development Dixectox Bxady stated that those axe good quesrions. He stated that Staff could look axound at othex City's that use this type of fencing materials, and see how they look and weax. Coxnnussionex LaPexe asked should the fencing become necessuy to xeplace, would it be the homeownexs xesponsibility ox the buildexs. Community Development D~ectox Bxady stated that it would depend if the fence wexe still undex waxxanty, and then it would be the manufact~es xesponsibility to xeplace. He asked the Cominission if they would be willing to use a tract as an example. Commissionex LaPexe agreed to use it as an example on one txact of homes. Vice Chautnan Matthies axxived to the meeting at 6:50 PM. Community Development D~ectox Bxady stated that anothex axea that needs to be addxessed is the industrial and commexcial development guidelines. He xequested that Plamiing Managex Villa go into the details fi~thex. Planning Managex Villa stated that the guidelines wexe used to cxeate a bettex design. He stated that with the considexarion of updating the guidelines, it would make commexcial ox industrial buildings use moxe than one type of matexial, such as brick ox ~on, making the appeaxance of the building moxe atteacrive. He stated that again, Staff could use othex ciries fox ideas. Community Development Dixector Bxady stated that the last item up fox discussion is to have Design Review foz Single Fatnily homes to be conducted adininistsatively. He stated that the purpose of this would be that it would save money and time to pxocess an application. Commissionex LaPexe agxeed howevex xequested that a monthly repoxt be pxovided to the Comnussion on the status of actions taken. Chaixman Bames concuxxed. Commissionex Uhhy asked what it would take to make that happen. Community Development Dixectox Bxady stated that it would take a code amendment He stated that the CouncIl would decide to approve ox decline. He stated that the Comnussion always has the option to take it back. PAGE 6- PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES - OCTOBER 1, 2002 INFORMATIONAL NONE STAFF COMMENTS Community Development D~ectox Bxady commented on the following • He stated that l~. Neal did appeal to the Council last week, and the appeal was denied. • He stated that the Alesco design went befoxe the City Council last week, and the Council decided to have a joint study session to discuss the design xeview. PLANNING COMMISSIONER'S COMMENTS Chainnan Baxnes commented on the followin : He would like to get the status of the Gas Starion on Main Stxeet, the Watex Stoxe, and Mx. Kipp's iniui-stoxage. He also wanted to know who is maintaining the K-Maxt lot,'as it is ovexgxown with weeds. Mx. Bxady indicated that the Watex Stoxe has withdxawn theix applicarion. He commented that he believes that Mx. I{ipp's muu-stoxage is in plan check. He indicated that the Design Review has exp~ed fox the Ultra-Max Gas Starion and will need to come back with anothex Design Review befoxe pxoceeding. Community Development D~ectox Bxady noted that he would let Code Enfoxcement know of the weed situation at the K-Maxt/Theatex paxking lot axea. Vice Chairwoman Matthies commented on the followin • She noriced that lately at the Lake Theatex, she has seen kids hanging out at axound 10:00 in the evening, unsupervised by paxents. She is concexned fox theix safety and wanted to know what the houxs of the Theatex axe. Community Development D~ectox Bxady stated that he would advise the Community Seroices Depaxtment of this situation. Coimnissionex Uh1ty commented on the following • He stated that he believed that the blank wall of the commexcial building was xesolved. He stated that the comments fxom the City Council meeting reflected otheiwise. Community Development Dixectox Bxady stated that he had menrioned to the City Councfl that the blank wall of the commexcial building had been xesolved, duxing the City Council meeting, as well as the Study Session. ADJOURNMENT PAGE 7- PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES - OCTOBER 1, 2002 MOVED BY UHLRY SECONDED BY MATTHIES AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO ADJOURN THE REGULAR PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING AT 7:23 PM. BARNES, CHAIRMAN Respectfully Subxnitted /~~t~~-- C~- /'C~f'C~ Dana C. Poxche' Community Development Clexk ATTEST: ~ Robext A. Bxady, Secxetaiy to the Planning Commission MINUTES PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE 183 NORTH MAIN STREET LAKE ELSINORE, CA 92530 TUESDAY, OCTOBER 15, 2002 The Regulaz Planning Couiinission Meeting was called to oxdex at 6:01 PM by Chairman Baxnes. The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Commissionex Nash. ROLL CALL PRESENT: COMMISSIONERS: BARNES, MATTHIES, NASH, UHLRY, & T .A PERE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: Also present wete Comxnunity Development Directox Bxady, Planning Managex Villa, City Engineex O'Donnell, Seniox Plannex Morita, Community Development Technician Hennings, Community Development Clexk Poxche' and Deputy City Attoxney Steve Miles. PUBLIC COMMENTS NONE CONSENT CALENDAR MOVED BY MATTHIES, SECONDED BY UHLRY AND CARffiED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR AS PRESENTED. Minutes 1. Octobex 1, 2002 PAGE 2- PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES - OCTOBER 15, 2002 PUBLIC HEARINGS 2. Commercial Pxoject No. 2002-01 Design Review of an Office/Commexcial Building next to the Elsinoce City Centex (Walmatt) sho~pin~ center. Chairwan Barnes opened the public hearing at 6:02 PM, and xequested the xeading of the Staff Repoxt. Community Development Dixectox Bxady indicated that this is a Design Review fox an office/commexcial building and requested Senior Plannex Moxita xeview it will the Comnussion. Seniox Plannex Moxita indicated that this Design Review is fox an 8,000 sf. office/commexcial building which would be located on the outside boundaries of the Waltnaxt Shopping Centex. He stated that the building would consist of 5 suites, xanging in size fxom 2,800 to 1,100 s£ He noted that the applicant would be utilizing the laxgex suite as the~ office, while the othex 4 xemauiing suites would be leased out. Seniox Plannex Moxita stated that the pxoject is consistent with the sites C-2, Genexal Commexcial Zoning, and complies with the appxopriate standaxds in the Zoning Code xelated to setbacks, landscaping, builcling heights, parking, and othex xelated issues. He stated that the pxoject would pxovide 49-lighted paxking spaces, which xepxesents 53% ox 17 moxe paxking spaces than xequixed. Seniox Plannex Moxita stated that the axchitectuxal design is consistent with the othex existing building within the City Centex Shopping Centex, such as the Denny's and Staxbucks. He stated that the pxoposed design would be Spanish Mission-style axchitectare. He noted that the building would have a towex-featuxe. Seniox Plannex Morita indicated that this pxoject would not cxeate txaffic congestion,nox hazaxd condirions within the Walmaxt Shopping Centex ox along Gxape Steeet. Seniox Plannes Moxita xecommended to the Cotntiussion to adopt a Resolution, which would xecommend that the City Council appxove Commercial Pxoject No. 2002-01, based upon the Findings, and subject to the attached Condirions of Appxoval. Chaixman Bames xequested comments fxom the public. Applicant Glen Daigle, Oakgxove Equiries, 28991 Fxont Street in Temecula, CA stated that he has xead and agxeed with the Staff Repart and the Condirions of Appxoval. He thanked Staff fox theix suppoxt on this pxoject, and would answex any quesrions that the Co~unission may have. Cotmnissionex Uhlxy asked the applicant about the gxading in the xeax of the building. He asked while the grading is taking place, how would they pxevent the excess d~t from xolling down Raikoad Canyon Road. PAGE 3- PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES - OCTOBER 15, 2002 The Applicant indicated that along Raikoad Canyon, thexe is a cut, and the equipment is geaxed so that it would be pulliug the d~t back off Railxoad Canyon. Coxmnissionex Uhlxy stated that the xeax of the building is visible to Railxoad Canyon. He asked the applicant if they intend on designing the tower so that it would not look so blank. The applicant stated that they did add an axchitectuxal design to the towex to enhance the look. He stated that thexe would be windows at the xeax of the builcling because one of the suites would use as an office. He stated that the intent was to cxeate a rhythm with the two towexs, which would be help bxeak up a flat look. He indicated that this would give an excellent oppoxtunity fox signage. He stated that the building would also have a coloxed tile to help accent the buildings. Comnussionex Uhlxy had no fuxthex quesrions. Vice Chairwoman Matthies stated that Cotsunissionex Uhlry covexed all the quesrions that she had. She stated that she liked the design of the building. Comnussionex LaPere concuxred. Chaixman Baxnes asked about the signage. Seniox Plannex Moxita stated that because the buildings axe located outside of the City Centex Specific Plan axea, the commexcial/office building would need to comply with the sign standaxds of the Zoning Code. Chaixman Baxnes had no furthex questions, and closed the Public Heaxing at 6:14 PM. MOVED BY LAPERE SECONDED BY NASH AND PASSED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO ADOPT RESOLUTION NO. 2002-50, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF T.AKF ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA, RECOMMENDING THAT THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA APPROVE COMMERCIAL PROJECT NO. 2002-01, DESIGN REVIEW OF AN OFFICE/COMMERCIAL BUILDING ADJACENT TO THE ELSINORE CITY CENTER SHOPPING CENTER. BUSINESS ITEMS 3. Design Review of Residential Pxoject No. 2002-07 - Construction of six single-familg cesidences among 14 vacant lots on Mill Stceet, Avenue G, and Paik Wa~ Community Development D~ectox Bxady stated that this is a Design Review fox siY single- family homes and xequested Community Development Technician Hennuigs to xeview it with the Coininission. PAGE 4- PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES - OCTOBER 15, 2002 Community Development Technician Hennings stated that this pxoject being considexed consists of six single-family xesidences among 14 lots along Avenue 6. She stated that the ent~e pxoject is located on Mill Street and Paxk Way. She noted that the applicant had oxiginally planned to use manufactared homes, howevex has now decided to construct the homes. She stated that because of this change, the applicant has only submitted a design fox one home. She indicated that the home is for plan 3 of the design, and would intxoduce the two othex designs fox the othex homes at a latex time. Community Development Technician Hennuigs stated that plan 3 is a one stoiy home that consists of 1,601 s£, which would be placed on six lots. She stated that the design has three diffexent fxont elevarions schemes. She noted that this is the same floox plan that the Planning Comnussion appxoved at the meeting of Octobex 2001. She stated that the applicant would be constructing a block wall between the school, houses and adjacent to the public right-of -way. She noted that the applicant might be considering on using the vinyl fencing matexial along the interiox side pxopexty line. Community Development Technician Hennings stated that this pxoject meets all of the xequirements of the LEMC, and Staff xecommends that the Coimnission adopt a Resolution appxoving R 2002-06. She indicated that the applicant had to leave the meeting due to pexsonalxeasons. Cha~man Baxnes xequested the Coimiiission fox theix comments. Vice Chaiiwoman Matthies asked Community Development Technician Hennings if the applicant intended to using only foi~ styles of homes. Community Development Technician Hennings stated that there would be tl~ee diffexent designs. Vice Chaixwoman Mattl~ies asked if the applicant had intended on revexsing the plans. Community Development Technician Hennings indicated yes. Vice Chauwoman Matthies asked if they would be all single-story. Community Development Technician Hennings indicated that plan two is a two-stoiy home. Coinmissionex Uhlry asked if the applicant wanted appxoval on all thxee designs ox just fox the plan tl~ee. Community Development Technician Hennings stated that the appxoval is only needed fox plan thxee at this time, and the othex two would need to come back to the Commission latex. Commissionex Uhlry asked about the access to the channel in the xear of the homes. City Engineex O'Donnell stated that the channel is owned and maintained by the school, and they have access to the channel. PAGE 5- PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES - OCTOBER 15, 2002 Corrunissionex LaPexe asked if Staff had the lot nutnbexs that showed which plan would be place whexe. Community Development Technician Hennings stated that the plotting plan shows the diffeTent lots and plans. Commissionex LaPexe asked about the fencing. Community Development Technician Hennings stated that it is xequ~ed that a decorarive wall is to be used along the right-of-way. She stated that it has not been specified as to what type of fencing would be used along the dxainage channel. She indicated that the applicant is considering the use of the new vinyl fencing, howevex the costs axe kughex, and no decision has been made. Coininissionex Nash had no quesrions. Chauman Basnes indicated that he is glad that the applicant decided not to use Pxe- Manufactueed Homes. He asked if the Coininission has con~ol on making the applicant put up money fox the undexgzound utilities. Community Development D'uectox Bxady stated that the cost would be pxohibited, and because of the location, thexe axe no undexgxound utilities. Chavman Baxnes asked if the applicant would considex having gang mailboxes, instead of individual boxes. Community Development Directox Bxady stated that this could be looked izto. Cha~man Baxnes asked if Staff would be xequesting a~ading plan fox the homes along Mill Street. Coxnmunity Development Technician Hennings stated that she akeady has a~ading plan for that site. She indicated that the~ would be a xetaining wall in the xear. Chairman Baxnes xequested the xeading of the Resolurion. MOVED BY NASH SECONDED BY BARNES AND PASSED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO ADOPT RESOLUTION NO. 2002-51, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF T.AKF: ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA, FOR APPROVAL OF DESIGN REVIEW OF RESIDENTIAL PROJECT 2002-07- CONSTRUCTION OF SIX SINGLE FAMILY R~SIDENCES AMONG 14 VACANT LOTS ON MILL STREET, AVENUE 6, AND PARK WAY. PAGE 6- PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES - OCTOBER 15, 2002 4. Minoc Design Review of Miscellaneous Pxoject No. M 2002-02 for the co-location of a Wiceless Telecommunication Facility -APN 377-330-007. Community Development Dixectox Bxady indicated that the applicant has requested that this pxoject be pulled fxom the Agenda due to uuknown xeasons. INFORMATIONAL Community Development Dixectox Bxady stated that the intent of the meeting is to pxovide status to the Coininission of the series of events that have taken place since the meeting of August 7, 2002. He xequested that Planning Managex Villa xeview the status with the Comxnission. Cha~man Barnes stated that if the applicant does not comply with the Conditions of the CUP, then the CUP could be xevolved. Community Development Dixector Bxady concuxxed. He stated that in oxdex to revoke the CUP, a Public Hearing would be necessaxy. Cha~man Barnes stated that the City has given the applicant foi~ times to comply with the Condirions, and the applicant has not complied. He indicated that the applicant still has no insuxance fox the pxoject and still has not complied with the numbex of employee needed fox this pxoject. Plannuig Managex Villa indicated that the applicant has signed the Acknowledgment of Conditions of Approval to accept the Condirions. Coimnissionex Nash stated that this pxoject is moxe like a Club. The majority of the people using the facility aze from out of City. He indicated that if an accident should happen at the facility, and it go into litigarion, then the City would be held xesponsible, not the applicant. He stated that the City is trying to make it woxk fox the applicant, but the applicant is staling. Coimnissioner Uhlry stated that the applicant is still not complying with watering down the facility with the watex txucks as indicated in the Conditions. Chaixman Barnes stated that the City has met with the applicant on foux sepasate occasions, and duxing those occasions, the applicant was told to comply with the Condirions. He stated that during the meeting the applicant stated that he would comply by a cextain time, howevex he still has not. Community Development Dixectox Bxady stated that the Planning Managex Villa did in fact fax the applicant a copy of the Staff Repoxt fox meeting this evening, yet the applicant has not shown up. Comnussionex LaPexe asked fox the status as of today's date. PAGE 7- PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES - OCTOBER 15, 2002 Coxnmunity Development D~ectox Bxady stated that the applicant is in the pxocess of amending the CUP to include night lighting fox night riding. It was decided that should nothing happen between now and the next Planning Commission then it would be necessaxy to have anothex Public Hearing fox the possibility of xevoking the CUP. Deputy Attoxney Miles stated that in oxdex to bring it back to the Commission, it would be necessary to have a Public Hearing, and pxovide a notice pex Section 17.74.110 of the Municipal Code within the next foux days, which would set in motion the foxmal heaxing fox xevocation of the CUP. He suggested to the Commission that the City would view everything as sepaxate items, and addxess them at that same time. He noted that it would be necessaxy fox pxopexly noticing the item, and provide a Staff Repoxt fox the actual item; we could fxame it as a modificarion and a xevocarion. He indicated that we would need to notice them both and then the City could entextain the modification fixst to give the applicant the~ due pxocess in terms of theix status. He stated that then the Conuiussion could make the detexmination of whethex the applicarion is sufficient with xespect to the revocahon issue. All Commissionexs concuxxed. Community Development Dixector stated that should the applicant comply with all that is necessary, then xevoking the CUP would not be necessary. Deputy Attorney Miles suggested that we have a meeting set fox the Novembex 5 as a Business Item to take it foicvaxd fox the possible xevocation fox the Novembex 19 meeting. STAFF COMMENTS Community Development D~ectox Bxady commented on the following • He stated that the Mayox's State of the City bxeakfast would take place on Novembex 5 at the Diamond and that the Commission would be invited. • He indicated that at the last City Council meeting the Council appxoved the Zone Change and the apaxtments along Potteiy and Code Amendment as well. PLANNING COMMISSIONER'S COMMENTS Chavtnan Barnes commented on the followine: • No comments Vice Chaixwoman Matthies commented on the followinQ: • No comments PAGE 8- PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES - OCTOBER 15, 2002 Commissionex Nash commented on the followine: He stated that concerning the Commexcial/Office Building that was discuss tonight, he stated that the xeax side of the buildings would moxe than like be used fox signage. He would pxefex to discouxage this and monitox what types of signs axe to be used, and the amount of tunes. Seniox Plannex Morita indicated that the same developex fox the Walmaxt Shopping Center is being used fox this pxoject. He indicated that the applicant is known fox the good quality that is put out, and will be consistent with the shopping centex. Commissionex LaPexe commented on the followinQ: No comments Commissionex Uhlry commented on the following; No comments ADJOURNMENT MOVED BY UHLRY SECONDED BY MATTHIES AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO ADJOURN THE REGULAR PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING AT 7:00 PM. BARNES, CHAIRMAN Respectfully Submitted ,~~ C p~~ ~ Dana C. Poxche' , Community Development Clerk PAGE 9- PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES - OCTOBER 15, 2002 ATTEST: MINUTES PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE 183 NORTH MAIN STREET T.AKF: ELSINORE, CA 92530 TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 5, 2002 The Regulax Planning Commission Meeting was called to oxdex at 6:01 PM by Vice Chaiiwoman Matthies. The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Commissionex Nash. ROLL CALL PRESENT: COMMISSIONERS: ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: MATTHIES, NASH, UHLRY, & LAPERE BARNES Also present were Community Development Dixectox Bxady, Planning Managex Villa, City Engineex O'Donnell, Associate Plannex Millex, Planning Consultant Donahoe, Community Development Technician Hemungs, Community Development Clexk Poxche' and Deputy City Atrorney Steve Miles. PUBLIC COMMENTS NONE CONSENT CALENDAR MOVED BY NASH, SECONDED BY UHLRY AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR AS PRESENTED. Minutes 1. Octobex 15, 2002 PAGE 2- PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES - NOVEMBER 5, 2002 PUBLIC HEARINGS 2. Zone Chan~e No. 2002-03 and Tentative Paxcel Map No. 30792 - APN 363-550-008 Vice Chauwoman Matthies opened the Public Heaxing at 6:03 PM. Community Development Directox Bxady stated that this is a Public Heasing fox a Zone Change and a Tentative Paxcel Map No. 30792, and xequested Associate Plannex Miller to xeview it with the Commission. Associate Plannex Millex indicated that this Tentarive Pascel Map is fox the intenrion of allowing Weinexschnitzel and Jiffy Lube ownexship of the~ ocvn paxcel. She stated that in oxder fox this to happen, a Zone Change would be necessary. She stated it would be necessary to change the zoning from C-2 (Genexal Commexcial) to C-1 (Neighboxhood Commexcial). Associate Plannex Millex stated that Staff finds that the xequest fox the Zone Change and the Tentative Paxcel Map meet the minim~ xequixements, and zecommends that the Plauuing Cointiussion adopt a xesolution based on the Findings, Exhibits and subject to the Condiuons of Appxoval. Vice Chaiiwoman xequested comments from the Public. Hearing no comments, Vice Chavwoman bxought the discussion back to the table fox comments ~om the Comtrussion. Cotmnissionex Nash asked if the c~rent buildings ase owned by one pexson. Community Development Dixectox Bxadp stated yes. Coxsunissionex Nash asked if they wexe pxesent at the meeting. Associate Plannex Millex indicated no. Cominissionex Nash inquired about the lighting used on the building. He asked if they had the pxopex shielding. Commuxrity Development D~ectox Bxady indicated that the applicant has taken some action to help slveld the lights. He stated that the applicant has had the inside of the light fixtures painted to help dim the light. Commissionex Nash had no fuxthex quesrions. Associate Plannex Millex indicated that the applicant axrived at 6:09 PM. Commissionex LaPexe axxived at 6:09 PM. Coimnissionex Nash asked the applicant to appxoach the table fox quesrions. PAGE 7- PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES - NOVEMBER 5, 2002 Commissionex Nash indicated that ske-he had no furthex comments. Commissionex LaPexe conc~xed with Cotiurussionex Uhhy with the looks of the pxoject. He stated that it would be a benefit to the neighboxhood. He had no fi~thex questions. Vice Chaixwoman Mattlues concu~ed, and had no quesrions. She xequested the xeading of the Resolurion. MOVED BY NASH, SECONDED BY LAPERE AND PASSED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THESE PRESENT TO ADOPT RESOLUTION NO. 2002-56, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA APPROVING MINOR DESIGN REVIEW FOR A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL PROJECT LOCATED AT 32885 SERENA WAY (APN 381-040-016). 5. Review Status of Conditions of Approval for Conditional Use Permit (CUP) No. 2001- O5, Lake Elsinore Motocxoss and BMX Racin~ and Training Tract. Community Development Dixectox Bxady stated that this pxoject is being bxought back to the Commission as a Business Item for the p~pose of xeviewing the pxoject with the Comnvssion. He xequested that Planning Managex Villa go ovex the carxent status with the Comnussion. Planning Managex Villa indicated that at the Planning Coimnission meeting of Octobex 15, 2002, Staff pxesented an Infoxmational Status Repoxt to the Planning Coimnission, outlining the events that have taken place since the Planning Cominission Meeting of August 7, 2002. He indicated that there aze cextain Conditions that have not yet been complied with. He stated that a$2,000,000.00 Ins~ance Cexrificate has been submitted, howevex Staff has not been able to verify the Cextificate, and the Insuxance caxrier has not xetuxned any calls. Planning Managex Villa stated that he has xeceived the signed copy of the Acknowledgement of Conditions from the applicant. Howevex, he indicated that Condition No. 25 is non- compliance as well as Condition No. 6 and 13. He noted that the applicant is pxesent fox any questions that the Cominission may have. He stated that the checks fox $20,000.00 and $5,000.00 to covex the bonds have been xeri~ned by the bank fox insufficient funds. Applicant Randy Hinex, BYIX Motocxoss stated that he has run into some minox pxoblems. He stated that the bank has put a hold on a$20,000.00 AND $5,000.00 check. He xequested the Couunission to hold off on the xequixement fox the cash bonds so that he can xeseroe money in oxdex to purchase the pxopexty. He also xequested that Condition No. 13 be elitninated. It was discussed between the applicant and the Comnussion that putting a hold on the $20,000.00 would be acceptable. It was xecommended that thexe would not be any action taken at this meeting, howevex the pxoject be scheduled fox anothex infoxmarional meeting PAGE 6- PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES - NOVEMBER 5, 2002 Vice Chauwoman Matthies closed the Public Hearing at 635 PM. MOVED BY LAPERE SECONDED BY UHLRY AND PASSED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO ADOPT RESOLUTION NO. 2002-54, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA, RECOMMENDING THAT THE CITY COUNCIL OF LAKE ELSINORE CERTIFICATION OF MITIGATED NEGATIVE DECLARATION NO. 2002-04. MOVED BY UHLRY SECONDED BY LAPERE AND PASSED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO ADOPT RESOLUTION NO. 2002-55, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA, RECOMMENDING THAT THE CITY COUNCIL OF LAKE ELSINORE APPROVAL OF TENTATIVE TRACT MAP NO. 30670 LOCATED ON MACHADO STREET. BUSINESS ITEMS 4. Minor Design Review of a Single-Family Residential Pcoject located at 32885 Serena Wav (APN 381-040-01G~ Community Development Dixectox Bxady stated that this is a Minox Design Review fox a Single Family Residence and xequested Community Development Technician Hemiiugs to xeview it with the Coimnission. Community Development Technician Hennings stated that this is a 2,716 squaxe feet two- stoxy xesidence. She stated that the pxoposed pxoject is utilizing Spanish style axchitectuxe. She noted that the applicant owns two lots, and will mexge the two in oxdei to meet the setback requ~ements. She indicated that the home would have d~ect access to the lake. Community Development Technician Hennings stated that the applicant would be providing a block wall. She stated that this home would be a benefit to the neighboxhood. She indicated that the applicant is pxesent for any quesrions that the Couiuiission may have. Vice Chainvoman Matthies asked if thexe wexe any comments for ox against the pxoject. Hearing no comments, the pxoject was bxought back to the table fox comments fxom the Conunission. Coxmiussionex Uhlxy stated that this pxoject looked gxeat He had no fuxthex comments. Coiumissionex Nash asked the applicant to appxoach the table. Applicant Gloria Jixnenez 33083 Olive Sueet, Lake Elsinoxe CA was asked if she has xead and agxeed to the Condirions of Appxoval. She indicated yes. PAGE 5- PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES - NOVEMBER 5, 2002 in the xear. He noted that unfoxtunately he has no control of the potenrial fixtuxe high school. He stated that the fixtuxe homes to be built are good quality. He commented that all 4 homes would have fxont yazd landscaping, sp~nklexs systems in the front yaxd, and block wall fencing. Community Development D'uectox Bxady explained to the audience that that this pxoject would be coming back to the Commission as a Design Review. Vice Chauinan Matthies asked if thexe wexe any moxe quesrions fxom the Public. Thexe being no furthex quesrions, Vice Chaixwoman Matthies bxought the discussion back to the table. Commissionex LaPexe asked the applicant if block walls and landscaping would be pxovided. The applicant indicated yes. Commissionex LaPexe asked the applicant if a watex system would also be pxovided. The applicant indicated yes. Cotmnissionex LaPeie had no furthex quesuons Cotxusussionex Uhhy noted that thexe would be many houses in the cul-de-sac. He noted that sometimes-emexgency vehicles have a difficult tnne getting in and out of the cul-de-sac. Planning Managei Villa stated that emexgency vehicles have issues such as these when a cul- de-sac is longex than 800 feet. He stated that this cul-de-sac is appxoxitnately 400 feet, so thexe should not be a pxoblem. Coimnissioner Nash noted that traffic did not appeas to be an issue. He stated that the elevations look good. He indicated that a lettex has been sent out discouraging that axea fox a high school. He had no fuxthex comments. Commissionex LaPexe indicated that one of the questions that wexe pxesented this evening fxom Cynthia Paige was the powex pole issue. Conunissionex LaPexe indicated that when powex poles axe moxe than 12,000 volts, tbey are too e.u~enrive to go underground. Vice Chaiswoman Mattl~ies thanked Staff fox all thexe haxd woxk on this pxoject. She liked the idea of the idea of single-story homes. She stated that the axchitectural enhancements look gxeat She had no furthex comments. Community Development Dixectox Bxady stated that the City of Lake Elsinoxe has no conteol as to whexe the schools axe to be located. He stated that signals and access would be discussed latex. He asked Planning Managex Villa as to when the pxoject would be going to City Council. Planning Managex Villa indicated that this pxoject has been scheduled fox the Novembex 26, City CouncIl meeting. PAGE 4- PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES - NOVEMBER 5, 2002 Planning Managex Villa indicated that this is a xequest fox an appxoval to subdivide 12.04 acxes of vacant land into 50 single-family residenrial lots, puxsuant to Chaptex 17.23, and Tide 16 of the Lake Elsinore Municipal Code and the State of Califoxnia Subdivision Map Act. He stated that the pxopexty is located along Machado within the City's jurisdicrion. Planning Managex Villa stated that the avexage lot size is 8,155 squaxe feet. He indicated that the smallest lot is 6,480 squaxe feet, and the ma~muxn lot size is 14,340 squaxe feet. He stated that the ovexall density is 4.2 dwelling units pex acre, which is lowex than the allowed density of si~c dwelling unts pex acxes, pex the LEMC and the Genexal Plan. Planning Managex Villa indicated that impxovements would be made to the primaiy access xoute along Machado Stxeet, incxeasing it to 45 feet right-of-way, which would also include cuxb and sidewalks. He stated that the two issues of concexn axe the gxading of pxoposed lots 1 tl~ough 6. He noted that the oxiginal proposed gxading plan was to be appxoxixnately 5 to 6 feet highex than the adjacent pxopexties along Le Haxve Avenue. He stated that Staff has xequested the applicant to lowex the elevauons pads to 3 feet to pxotect the futuxe concexns of privacy. Planniug Managex Villa indicated that the othex concexn was the landscaping along Machado Stxeet He stated that his concexns wexe that the futuxe maintenance of the Paxkway. He indicated that the applicant has agxeed to paxticipate in a pxogxam that would insure maintenance along Machado Stxeet Paxking. Planning Managex Villa indicated that Staff has pxepaxed a Mirigated Negarive Declaxarion, and the xeview period is fxom Octobex 25 to Novembex 15, 2002. He stated that the subdivision has been found to be consistent with the LEMC. He xecommended that the Planning Coim77ission adopt a Resolurion xecommending to the City Council Cextification of the Mirigated Negarive Declaxation and appxoval the Tentative Txact Map No. 30670 based on the Findings, Exhibits, and subject to the Conditions of Appxoval. Vice Chaixwoman Matthies xequested comments from the public. Cynthia Paige 161 Le Harve Avenue, Lake Elsinoxe mdicated that she has concexns with landscape issues, the block wall facing Machado, and the quality of housing. She indicated that she also has concexns that the single-story homes will lose thexe view. She stated that thexe are concerns with the potential fut~e high school and the txaffic associated with the school, which is planned fox the axea. She indicated that she has quesrions xegaxcling the powex poles and wanted to know who could adckess these quesrions. Brian Scoles 615 Le Harve, Lake Elsinoxe indicated that he has concerns with the maintenance of the buffex and concems with the tsaffic. He stated that thexe is a stop sign at Gxand Avenue and a signal at Lincoln. He indicated that he is concemed with the potential traffic in that axea. Wes Keusdex, Applicant fox the pxoject. He stated that the pxoject would pxobably get staxted sometime in the spring. He noted that the xeax of lots 1 through 6 would be a ma~num of 3 feet. He indicated that this should pxotect the view of the single-stoiy PAGE 3- PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES - NOVEMBER 5, 2002 Applicant David Fried, 301 Sutmnexhill Road, Lake Elsinoxe CA. stated that they have placed shields on the lights. He stated that they fixst had painted the lights, but that didn't seem to woxk, so they went ahead and puxchased the shields. Vice Chairwoman Matthies asked the applicant if he agxeed to the Condirions of Appxoval. The applicant indicated that he has xead and a~eed with the Condirions of Appxoval. Coimnissionex Uhky concuxxed with the changes to the Zone Change, and had no fuxther comments. Coum~issionex LaPexe conc~xed with Coininissionex Uhlry's comments, and had no furthex comments. Vice Chaiiwoman Matthies indicated that she was glad to see that the light issue has been xesolved. Vice Chaixwoman Matthies closed the Public Heasing at 6:10 PM, and xequested the xeading of the Resolutions. MOVED BY LAPERE SECONDED BY UHLRY AND PASSED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO ADOPT RESOLUTION NO. 2002-52, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA, RECOMMENDING THAT THE CITY COUNCIL OF LAKE ELSINORE APPROVE THE ZONE CODE AMENDMENT NO. 2002-03 WHICH PROPOSES TO AMEND A C-2, GENERAI. COMMERCIAL ZONE TO A C-1, NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL ZONE, PER CHAPT'ER 17.84, AMENDMENTS OF THE T.AKF: ELSINORE MUNICIPAL CODE. MOVED BY UHLRY SECONDED BY LAPERE AND PASSED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO ADOPT RESOLUTION NO. 2002-53, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA, RECOMMENDING THAT THE CITY COUNCIL OF LAKE ELSINORE APPROVE THE TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP 30792, LOCATED AT 301 SUMMERHILL DRIVE, APN 363-550-008. 3. Tentative Tiact Map No. 30670 and Mitigated Negative Declaration No. 2002-04. Vice Chaixwoman Matthies opened the Public Hearing at 6:11 PM. Community Development Dixectox Bxady indicated that this is a Public Hearing fox Tentative Txact Map No. 30670, and Mitigated Negative Dedazation No. 2002-04, and xequested that Plam7ing Managex Villa xeview it with the Coxsunission. PAGE 8- PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES - NOVEMBER 5, 2002 to take place on Novembex 19, 2002 in oxdex to give the applicant two weeks moxe to comply with the outlined Conditions. MOVED BY NASH, SECONDED BY MATTHIES AND PASSED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THESE PRESENT TO REVIEW CUP 2001-05 MOTOCROSS AT THE NOVEMBER 19, 2002 PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING. INFORMATIONAL Ann Mowex appxoached the Cominission, advising them that she is new to the City and is available fox consultants that would need computex unaging. Coimnissionex Uhhy indicated that he did xeceive a copy of hex bxochuxe and was vexy unpxessed by hex woxk. STAFF COMMENTS Communitv Develonment Directox Bxadv commented on the followin • He stated that the Mayox's Bxeakfast would be held on Novembex 6. • He noted that thexe would be a Study Session held on Novembex 6 at 10:00 AM at the City Hall. • He introduced Caxole Donahoe, Planning Consultant fox the City of Lake Elsinoxe. He indicated that she would be woxking on a numbex of upcoming pxojects fox the City. PI.ANNING COMMISSIONER'S COMMENTS Vice Chairwoman Matthies commented on the followine: • She xeminded Staff and the Comnussion that the motocxoss would be held tlus weekend. Commissionex Nash commented on the followinQ: • He stated that he appTeciated the hard woxk that Staff has done with the BMX motocxoss. He indicated that it would certainly be in the applicant's best intexest if he could purchase the pxopexty. Commissionex LaPexe commented on the following~ • He welcomed Caxole Donahoe. • He thanked Staff fox all thexe haxd woxk and indicated that sometunes it is necessaiy fox more patience with the applicants. Commissionex Uhlxv commented on the following: PAGE 9- PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES - NOVEMBER 5, 2002 • He asked about the Axmy Cops of Engineexs xegaxding 12.67. Plannuig Managex xecommended that this could be discussed at the Novembex 19~', in oxdex fox the applicant to be pxesent. ADJOURNMENT MOVED BY UHLRY SECONDED BY MATTHIES AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO ADJOURN THE REGULAR PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING AT 7:20 PM. ' ~' W"~' ' ~ ERICKA MATTHIES, CE HAIRWOMAN Respectfully Submitted ~.,~~ ~. ~~' Dana C. Poxche' Community Development Clexk ATTEST: ~ ~~ R ext A. Bxady, Secxetaiy Planning Coinmission / the MINUTES PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE 183 NORTH MAIN STREET LAKE ELSINORE, CA 92530 TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 19, 2002 The Regular Planning Coimnission Meeting was called to oxdex at 6:01 PM by Chaixman Baxnes. The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Cotiuiussionex Uhlry. ROLL CALL PRESENT: COMMISSIONERS: BARNES, MATTHIES, NASH, UHLRY, & LAPERE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: Also pxesent wete Community Development Dixectox Bxady, Planning Managex Villa, City Engineex O'Donnell, Plannuig Consultant Donahoe, , Community Development Clexk Poxche' and Deputy City Attoxney Steve Miles. PUBLIC COMMENTS NONE CONSENT CALENDAR CoiTitivssionex Nash indicated that thexe was a typogtaphical exxox to the minutes on page 7 of 9, f~st paxagxaph. He indicated that the woxd ".rb~' should have xead "he". Cotmnissionex LaPexe indicated that an exxox was made to the minutes on page 5 of 9, paxagxaph 12, the sentence should xead, it ir extremely eapensive to go underground. MOVED BY LAPERE, SECONDED BY UHLRY AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR WITH THE NOTED CORRECTIONS. Minutes 1. Novembex O5, 2002 PAGE 2- PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES - NOVEMBER 19, 2002 PUBLIC HEARINGS 2. Tentative Txact Map No. 30811 Due to a potential conflict of intexest, Chairman Basnes excused himself fxom the meeting at 6:05 PM. Vice Chauwoman Matthies opened the Public Hezsing at 6:05 PM. Community Development D~ectox Bxady stated that this is a Public Heaxing fox a 169-acxe paxcel to be subdivided into 65 single-family xesidenrial lots, and xequested Planning Managex Armando Villa to xeview it with the Coxmnission in Senior Plannex Morita's absence. Planning Managex Villa indicated that this is a xequest to subdivide 169 axeas into 68 total lots that would consist of 65 single-family xesidential lots and 3 open space lots puxsuant to Chaptex 17.23 of the Zoning Code, and Tide 16 of the LEMC. He stated that the location of the axea is along Lake Stxeet between Texxa Cotta Middle School and Mountain Stxeet. Plannuig Managex Villa noted that the lot avexage is 8,700 squaxe feet. He stated that the smallest lot is 6,500 squaxe feet and the laxgest is appxo~cimately 19,000 squaxe feet, fox an ovexall density of 3.84 units pex acxe. He indicated that the lots meet the iivniinum standaxds of the Single-Family Residential Zoning. Planning Managex Villa stated that the issues pertainiug to this pxoject axe the wall and fencing intexface with the e~cisting Lake Texxace Subdivision. He stated that normally the Code would allow constructing a 6-foot high block wall. He stated that some the homeownexs in the axea have e~cisting fencing that varies. He it was xecommended that the developex contact the homeownexs to develop a fencing plan that would mirigate pxoblems, pxeseives the views of the e~cisting homeownexs and yet meet the minim~ standaxds of the Code. Plamung Managex Villa indicated that anothex issue was the potenrial loss of views. He stated that this pxoject would be ~aded appxo~mately 10 feet lowex than the e~sting homes. The applicant has agxeed to consteuct some single-stoiy homes. Lasdy, he noted that dxainage could be an issue along the southern boundaiy. He stated that cuxiendy thexe is a concxete V-ditch that runs along the southem pxopexty line and the school's pxoperty. He indicated that the Applicant is xequesting that the V-ditch remain, and that the axea would be maintained by the Homeownexs Association (HOA). Planning Managex Villa xequested that the Planning Commission adopt a Resolution, which would xecommend that the City Council appxove Tentative Txact Map No. 30811 based on the Findings, Staff Repoxt and subjected to the Condirions of Approval. He noted that the Applicant is pxesent fox questions. PAGE 3- PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES - NOVEMBER 19, 2002 Vice Chauwoman Matthies requested comments fxom the public. Cl~is McColley, 29072 Palm View, Lake Elsmoxe, stated that she is a xesident neax the locarion of the pxoject. She indicated she pxoject has been a subject of discussion foi almost 10 yeaxs. She stated that the pxoject has been tl~ough sevexal phases of commexcial pxoposals howevex, she stated that the City Council voted to have it xe-zoned fox xesidenrial use. She noted that the issues have been adc~essed, and most of the homeownexs in the area axe pleased of the outcome. Vice Chavwoman Matthies asked if anyone else wished to speak on behalf ox against the pxoject. Hearing no comments, Vice Chaircvoman bxought the discussion back to the table fox Commissionex Comments. Coimnissionex Nash stated that he concu~ed with Ms. McColley's comments on the pxogxess of the pxoject. He stated that he was glad to heaz that the pxopexty was zoned fox xesidential and not commexcial. He liked the lay out and noted that the pxoject would blend in well cvith the e~cisting homes and enhance the axea. Commissionex Uhlxy asked the City Engineex about the ditch along Mountain and Lake Stxeet. He indicated that the ditch handles a laxge amount of watex flow, and wanted to how the developex would handle the elevation changes. Applicant Chris Willis, Woodside Homes, stated that the developex intends on having the V- ditch empty into a stoxm dxain. Coixuxussion Uhlty asked the Applicant if the developex intends on cxeating a bank with a retauung wall along Lake and Mountain. Planning Managex Villa stated that most of the watex that ~ains off Mountain would be collected into a stoxxn dxain onto Lake. He indicated that the cu~ent mound on the comex of Lake and Mountain would be gxaded down to appxoxitnately 8 to 10 feet. Coinmissionex Uhlry had no fi7tthex comments Vice Chaixwoman Matthies noted that theze was someone in the audience who wanted to addxess some concerns. Sam Resnick, 1530 San Ponte Road, Coxona, CA stated that he is an Engineex and has pxopexty adjacent to the pxoject. He noted that a civil engineex and himself looked at the axea and detexmined theu could be a pxoblem with flooding. He stated that thexe is a depxession in the stxeet, which does not allow the watex to flow. He stated that cuxxendy thexe is not a stoxm drain in the axea, and could have a potential fox flooding. PAGE 4- PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES - NOVEMBER 19, 2002 City Engineex O'Donnell stated that thexe is a low axea on Mountain Steeet and Lake Stxeet, and he indicated that the developex intends on putting lazge catch basins in the axea, which will have a pipe connected dixecdy to the stoxm dxain. He indicated that this should unpxove the situarion; howevex, thexe still would be some minox flooding during heavy xains in the axea. Coisunissionex LaPexe noted that Lake Texxace homes that axe adjacent to the pxoject have many diffexent types of e~sting fencing. He asked what type of fencing would be used. Planning Managex Villa explained that since thexe wexe sevexal diffexent variarions of fencing in the aeea, the developex would get in contact with the neighboring homeownexs to come up with a solurion that would meet the fencing iequ~ements and please the neighboring pxopexty ownexs. Coinmissionex LaPexe stated that on page 4 of 17-item numbex 2, it states that the Applicant has a~eed to constnxct a masonrp decoxarive wall along the entixe peritnetex of the project site. He asked if this aspect would be undex xeview of the dixectox. Community Development Dixectox Bxady stated that ideally a block wall would be used. Howevex, he stated that the developex would need to woxk with the neighboxing pxopexty ownexs, as some of them have wxought-~on fencing, some have wood, and some have block walls. He mdicated the developer would discuss the oprions with the pxopexty ownexs, and possibly have the e~sting wall zemoved, and xeplaced with block wall as part of that development. He stated that the pxopexty ownexs axe not obligated to have the~ e~sting fence xemoved. Commissionex LaPexe asked the Applicant if the HOA was a mandatory item fox the new home puxchasexs, and would be xequixed to be a membex. The Applicant stated yes. Commissionex LaPexe asked if the HOA would only be xesponsible fox the items listed on page two of 17, fifth paxagraph. The Applicant stated yes. Commissionex LaPexe asked the Applicant if it would txansfex to new ownexship, should thexe be a change. The Applicant stated yes. Commissioner LaPexe told the Applicant that he would like to see decoxarive block wall used. PAGE 5- PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES - NOVEMBER 19, 2002 Community Development Dixectox Bxady stated that typically the developex would use slump stone ox split face. He stated that the developex would try to match what is used in the suxiounding axea. Commissionex LaPexe had no fixxthex questions. Vice Chaixman wanted to commend Staff and the Applicant on theix haxd woxk. She asked the Applicant if he has xead and agxeed to the Condirions of Appxoval. The Applicant stated yes Vice Chairwoman Matthies closed the Public Heaxing at 6:27 PM and asked fox the xeading of the Resolution. MOVED BY LAPERE SECONDED BY UHLRY AND PASSED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO ADOPT RESOLUTION NO. 2002-57, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA, RECOMMENDING THAT THE CITY COUNCIL OF LAKE ELSINORE APPROVAL OF TENTATIVE TRACT MAI' NO. 30811 3. Tentative Paxcel Map No. 30787 Vice Chauwoman Matthies opened the Public Hearing at 6:27 PM. Community Development Dixectox Bxady indicated that this is a Public Hearing fox Tentative Paxcel Map No. 30787 and requested that Planning Consultant Donahoe xeview it with the Coimivssion. Planning Consultant Donahoe stated that this pxoject is to divide 480 acxes of undeveloped pxopexty into tcvo paxcels fox the purpose of sale. She stated that the pxoperiy is located on the westexn edge of the City, noxth of McVickex Paxk and west of Gxand Avenue and Lincoln Stseet. She indicated that the axea is known as the La Laguna Specific Estates Plan, which was appxoved by CouncIl in Novembex 1998. Planning Consultant Donahoe stated that Foxecast Homes plans to develop Paxcel 1 with single-family xesidenrial units. She stated that they would eventually fixxthex subdivide the xemauung Paxcel2. Planning Consultant Donahoe noted that thexe aze tcvo issues of concern. She stated that one is that the applicant agxeed to pxovide an access to the pxopexty noxth of the pxoject. She commented that the second axea of concexn is the design of the Tentative Txact Map, on Paxcel 1. She indicated that the xesidents on Sunswept Drive have concerns with the development of Pazcel 1. She has noted that the adjacent xesidents axe concexned cvith the PAGE 6- PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES - NOVEMBER 19, 2002 pxoposed 'unpxovements to Sunswept Dxive, and with the potenrial small houses on small lots. Planning Consultant Donahoe stated that the Tentarive Paxcel Map is consistent with the appxoved La Laguna Specific Plan. She stated that Staff xecommends that the Planning Commission adopt a Resolurion xecommending to the City Council appxoval of Tentative Paxcel Map No. 30787 based on the Findings, E~ibits, and subject to the Condirions of Appxoval. Planning Consultant Donahoe stated that Staff inet with the applicant priox to the meeting and a~eed with theix xequest to change a few of the Conditions. She stated that Condition numbex 7 should xead "Novembex 15, 2002." She noted that Condirion numbex 11 should say, "final Paxcel Map." She commented that Condirion numbex 13 should add to `join CFD 88-3." She indicated that Condition numbex 16 should be changed to xead, "Applicant shall identify the access." Lasdy, she stated that the last change would be to Condirion numbex 17 whexe it should xead "an access easement from Dale Couxt." Plannuig Consultant Donahoe indicated that both the pxopexty ownex and a xepxesentative from Foxecast Homes wexe pxesent to answex any quesrions that the Couunission may have. Vice Chauwoman Matthies xequested any comments fxom the public. Kevin Manning, applicant fox the pxoject stated that he wanted to thank eveiyone associated with this project for all the hasd woxk. He confixmed that he xead and agxeed to the Condirions of Approval, to include all the changes, additions, and deletions. Woody Woodasd, 29108 Sunswept Dx, Lake Elsinoxe stated that he and his neighboxs met and discussed the potential traffic congestion at the coxnex of Sunswept and Lincoln. He indicated that some of his neighboxs did not know of this meeting. He stated that he has a letter that is signed by all of the xesidents on Sunswept, and xequested to give this issue some sexious thought. Bxad Hollexbach, 29125 Wayfaxex Couxt, Lake Elsinoxe stated that he xesided direcdy in fxont of the pxopexty. He indicate that he would have pxefexxed moxe time of notice xegaxding this meeting, so that he could have pxepazed the neighboTS, and had moxe neighboxs show up fox the meeting. He stated that he has hopes that the homes that Farecast intends on constxucting will be compasable to the e~sting homes in the neighbarhood. He stated that he has concexns with the lot sizes of the pxojected pxoject, and feels that if the lots are going to be small, and it will devaluate the homes in the existing axea. Kaxla Papaco, 29101 Wayfaxex Lane, Lake Elsinoxe concuxxed with the othex speakexs on the tsaffic issues. She asked if lights wexe pxoposed fox the axea. She stated that when she puxchased hei home d~ough Centex, she was told that the asea of discussion would be laxge lots, cvith lasge homes, which would increase the value of hex home. She asked what PAGE 7- PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES - NOVEMBER 19, 2002 xeco~se she has, since now the infoxmation is diffexent. She stated that she is against leveling the axea, and placing smallex homes on the smallex lots. Planning Consultant Donahoe thanked the homeownexs for taking the time to come out to the meeting. She noted that thexe would be a~affic study conducted, to assess the axea. She stated that the safety concerns would need to be addressed by the City Engineex. City Engineex O'Donnell stated that the City could check the site distance on Sunswept and Lincoln. He indicated that he did not xealize that thexe was a pxoblem thexe. Plannuig Consultant Donahoe stated that at this time, the Commission was appxoving the Tentative Paxcel Map, and not the Design Review. She indicated that the project would need to come back to the Coizunission at a latex date fox the Design Review. Vice Chauwoman Matthies concuxxed with Planning Consultant Donahoe that this meeting was just the subdivision of the Pascels and not the Design Review. She xequested comments fxom the Conuivssion. Cominissionex Uhlry stated that he undexstands the concexns of the existing homeownexs in the axea surxounding of the pxoject. He stated that this meeting is just to xeview the splitting of the paxcels. He stated that the Commission will look at how many houses would be placed on the paxcel at a latex date. He had no fi~thez comments Commissionex LaPexe concuxxed with Coimnissionex Uh1ty. He stated that when the pxoject comes back to the Conunission fox Design Review, at that time Staff and the Comnussion would have moxe inforniation on the lot sizes, and homes. Comnussionex Nash concuxxed with the othex Commissionexs. He stated that tsaffic would be an issue. He asked Staff if the stxeet names wexe tentarive. Plazming Consultant Donahoe stated the Specific Plan appxoved the xoadways. She stated that they might be xealigned, howevex the Specific Plan is showing the spine xoad, and whexe they axe located. Commissioner Nash noted that McVickex Paxkway was the main artery, and that Sunswept was an emexgency assess along cvith Sandpipex in the pxoject. He stated that the paxcel meets with all of xequ~ements. Vice Chaixman Matthies thanked all who came out to the meeting to expxess theix concexns. She asked Staff if thexe was a taxget date that this pxoject would be coming back to the Commission, fox the Design Review. Plannuig Consultant Donahoe stated that it would pxobably come back sometime in Spring of 2003. PAGE 8- PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES - NOVEMBER 19, 2002 Conunissionex Nash also wanted to point out to the audience that the City is to notify all xesidences within a 300-foot xadius of the pxoject of a Public Hearing. He stated that thexe would be some people who would not be notified. He suggested that those who xeceive a copy of the norification of the upcoxning Public Hearing, that they staxt spxeading the woxd out. Community Development Dixectox Bxady stated that anyone who would like to receive a norice, that did not akeady xeceive one, could leave theix name and ad~ess with the Planning Consultant, and she would send a notice to you fox the next meeting xegaxcling this pxoject. Vice Chaixwoman Matthies closed the Public Hearing at 6:50 PM and xequested the xeading of the Resolurion. MOVED BY LAPERE SECONDED BY NASH AND PASSED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO ADOPT RESOLUTION NO. 2002-58, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA, RECOMMENDING THAT THE CITY COUNCIL OF LAKE ELSINORE APPROVE TENTATIVE PARCEL MAl' 30787 LOCATED NORTH OF MCVICKER PARK AND WEST OF GRAND AVENUE AND LINCOLN STREET (ASSESSOR'S PARCEL NOS. 391-2G0-040 - 047, - 050, AND - 051), A DIVISION FO 480 ± ACRES OF UNIMPROVED LAND INTO TWO (2) PARCELS WITH THE FOLLOWING MODIFICATIONS TO THE CONDITIONS: (7) The applicant shall comply with all xequixements of the Riverside County Fire Departrnent, as identified in their amended transmittal dated e,.r.,....~__ „ onno November 15, 2002 attached. (13) Developer shall enter into an agteement to join CFD 88-3 Phase 4 improvements included =--''~-~. (16) Applicant shall -'-a~~ identify the access to the fire station on the fvial paccel map. (17) Applicant to provide an access easementftom Dale Couxt to the Bishop properly to the north of Parcel II. *italics indicated addition to text, ~gk indicates removal fcom text. BUSINESS ITEMS 4. Review Status of Conditions of Appxoval for Conditional Use Permit (CUP) No. 2001- 05, Lake Elsinore Motocross and BMX Racing and Ttaining Tract. PAGE 9- PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES - NOVEMBER 19, 2002 Cha.utnan Barnes reconvened the meeting at 6:54 PM. Community Development Dixector Bxady stated that this is status of the Lake Elsinare Motocxoss. He stated on Novembex 5, 2002, status was reviewed with the Coimnission, and the purpose of this meeting is going ovex the latest developments. He xequested Planning Managex Villa to go ovex the status with the Commission. Planning Managex Villa indicated that the Staff xepoxt in fxont of them outlined the status of the CUP. He stated that as of today's date, Staff does not have full compliance. He indicated that today he xeceived a fax fxom an insuxance agent, indicating covexage fox one million dollaxs ($1,OOQ000.00). Howevex, he stated that the Condirion indicated that the covexage should be fox two tiullion dollass ($2,000,000.00). Planning Managex Villa stated that anothex concexn is the cash bond that xemains outstanding. He stated that the applicant had filed fox the cash bonds fox $20,000.00 howevex did not go tl~ough, due to insufficient funds. Planning Manager Villa indicated that the applicant did xetuxn the Acknowledgement of Condirions. Howevex, he stated that the applicant still does not comply with the staffing issue outlined in Condirion #6. He indicated that the applicant has submitted a sheet that outlines theie jusufication of staf£ He commented that thexe axe some jusrificarions that Staff does not agxee with. Plannuig Managex Villa noted that Condition Numbex 13, which calls fox a site plan, is not in compliance. He stated that due to the high level of activity, thexe xeally needs to be an axea fox an office that would include xes~ooms and a place fox the employees to rest. He stated the pxesent time thexe is anything fox the employees. Vice Chairwoman Matthies asked if thexe is a State Law that xequ~es such. Planning Managex Villa indicated no, however Staff feels that due to the size of the facility theie should be accommodarions fox the employees. He stated that the applicant did submit an amended application, howevex due to lack of fees; the application had to be put on hold pending payment. Vice Chairwoman Matthies asked to explain about the negative fees. Plamung Managex Villa stated that the oxiginal applicarion is in a negative balance, due to the high amount of pxocessing and issue xesolurion acuvity that has been occarxing on this pxoject. He indicated that the applicant did subtnit fees; howevex, they wexe used to covex the negarive balance. He stated that the applicant would need to submit new fees fox the atnended application. He did state that the applicant is pxesent fox any questions that the Commission may have. PAGE 10 - PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES - NOVEMBER 19. 2002 Vice Chaiiwoman Matthies asked why we wexe asking fox two nvllion ($2,000,000.00) fox the insuxance cextificate. Plannuig Managex Villa indicated that the Admuiistxarive seroices D~ectox xecommended two million ($2,000,000.00) based on his opinion fox xisk management purposes. Community Development Dixectox Bxady stated that the Conditions of Appxoval that weie appxoved wexe fox two million dollaxs ($2,000,000.00) and unfoxtunately, neithex Staff nox Coizuiussion can go back and amend them unless it is bxought back as an amended CUP. Chav~nan Baxnes indicated the unpoxtance of a cash bond is to pxotect the City fxom potential lawsuit. He indicated that without the cash bond, the City could be held liable fox damages. Coimnissionex Uhky stated that he empathizes with the applicant; howevex, he states that this pxoject has been going xound in cixcles fox months. He stated that the applicant still has not complied. Vice Cha~woman Matthies stated that she too xealizes that the applicant is doing everything to succeed in this community. Howevex, she noted that it is necessaxy fox the insurance covexage. Cha~man Bames asked the applicant if he wished to come up to the table to make a statement. Randy Hinex, 33350 Elizabeth Road, Temecula, stated that he has made numexous calls to the City xegaxding his pxoject to see if the ins~ance cextificate was acceptable, but he commented that he nevex xeceive a call back. He stated that he just found out about the Planning Cominission meeting on Monday, via FedEx. He stated that he was not awaxe that thexe was an issue xegaxding the ins~ance. He indicated that he thought that his cexrification that was submitted was fox two inillion ($2,000,000.00), not one million ($1,000,000.00). Mx. Hinex commented about Condirion numbex 13, where it discusses a site plan fox an office building to house the management and employees. He stated that it is not on the plan and has not' had been since 1999. He stated that c~xendy thexe axe two offices, wl~ich act as an EMT office, and genexal adininistrative offices. He noted that he has been out of town, and thought that the check fox $20,000.00 had been submitted. Chaixman Baxnes stated that a meeting was held on Septembex 9, Septembex 22, and on Octobex 9 of 2002. He stated that each time, the City Managex was pxesent, and the Managex of Planning Division was pxesent. He stated that at every meeting the same issues wexe discussed, and each time the applicant stated that everything would be bxought up to confoTmance fox the next meeting, yet nothing did. He indicated that this pxoject has been PAGE 11 - PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES - NOVEMBER 19, 2002 discussed fox ovex thxee months; it does not comply with the original CUP. He noted that he would be agxeeing cvith Commissionex Uhlxy and xecommend having the CUP xevoked. Deputy City Attoxney Miles indicated that the pxoceduxe to have the CUP xevoked would be to motion a Norice to considex a Public Heaxing to considex a revocation of the CUP. MOVED BY UHLRY, SECONDED BY BARNES AND PASSED WITH A 4-1 VOTE WITH MATTHIES ABSTAINING TO SET A PUBLIC HEARING FOR REVOCATION OF THE CUP NO. 2001-05, LAKE ELSINORE MOTOCROSS AND BMY RACING AND TRAINING TRACT. INFORMATIONAL None STAFF COMMENTS Community Development Dixectox Bxady commented on the following; • He stated that the Txee Lighting Cexemony will take place on Novembex 23, 2002 at the Oudet Centex. • He noted that new F~e Station at McVickex Paxk was dedicated on Fxiday, Novembex 15, and went very well. He stated that the dedicarion fox the Rivenvalk took place today, and also went veiy well. PLANNING COMMISSIONER'S COMMENTS Vice Chairwoman Matthies commented on the following: • She noted that the Tl~otde would take place at the Diamond this coming weekend, and should be lots of fun.. Commissionex Nash commented on the followine: • He commented on the Motocxoss issue. He stated that he empathizes with the application, howevex the applicant was not complying, and thexefoxe the Coisuiussion had no othex altemarive. Commissionex LaPexe commented on the followinQ: PAGE 12 - PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES - NOVEMBER 19, 2002 • He conc~xed with the other Comtnissionexs xegaxding the Motocross. Commissionex Uhlxv commented on the followin • He noted that he would not be pxesent fox the Txee I.ighting Cexemony due to his busy schedule. • He stated that the ho~s of the upcoming T'hxotde would be fxom 10:00 AM to 2:00 AM the following day, and that he would be working that event. • He stated that he attended the Riverwalk dedication and it was gxeat. ADJOURNMENT MOVED BY NASH SECONDED BY MATTHIES AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO ADJOURN THE REGULAR PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING AT 7:30 PM. BARNES, CHAIRMAN Respectfiilly Submitted ti~c~,c.+.a. ~ ~ f c+~(.c. Dana C. Poxche' Community Development Clexk ATTEST: ~obex[ A. Bxady, Secx xy to the Plamung Coimnissi MINUTES PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE 183 NORTH MAIN STREET LAKE ELSINORE, CA 92530 TUESDAY, DECEMBER 3, 2002 The Regulas Plannuig Cormnission Meeting was called to oxdex at 6:01 PM. by ChauYnan Baxnes. The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Commissionex LaPexe. ROLL CALL PRESENT: COMMISSIONERS: BARNES, MATTHIES, NASH, UHLRY, & T.APERE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: Also ptesent wexe: Community Development Disectox Bxady, City Engineex O'Donnell, Community Development Technician Hennings, Community Development Clexk Poxche' and ~ Deputy City Attoxney Steve Miles. PUBLIC COMMENTS NONE CONSENT CALENDAR MOVED BY LAPERE, SECONDED BY UHLRY AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR. Minutes 1. Novembex 19, 2002 PUBLIC HEARINGS NONE PAG~ 2- PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES - DECEMBER 3, 2002 BUSINESS ITEMS 2. Minor Design Review of a Single Familv Residential Project located at 29479 Kalina Avenue (APN 378-191-011~ Community Development Duectox Bxady stated that this is a Minox Design Review of a Single-Family Residence and xequested Community Development Technician Hennings xeview it with the Coxiunission. Community Development Technician Hennings indicated that this pxoject is a Minox Design Review fox a manufactured home to include a detached gaxage. She stated that the house that was thexe previously buxnt down in Apxil 2002. She said that the pxopexty ownex is xeplacing the home that buxnt down with a manufactuxed home. Community Development Technician Hennuigs stated that the manufactured home consists of 3 be~ooms, is 1,883 squaxe feet, and includes a detached gaxage that is 484 squ~e feet. She stated that the home would have a small poxch that would be facing Kalina Avenue and will include shuttexs on the windows. She indicated that the gaxage would have a xeax entry and would have access ~om Axnold Avenue. Community Development Technician Hennings stated that the applicant would pxovide fxont yaxd landscaping and ixxigation, with addirional landscaping pxovided as needed. She stated that the pxopexty c~xently has wooden and chain link fencing. She indicated that the City's policy is to have c~xent development xeplace e~cisting fencing with the City appxoved enhanced wooden fencing. She commented that the applicant has indicated that he does not wish to xeplace the chain link fence. She noted that in oxdex to be consistent with the other developments and to enhance the axea, Staff feels that the chain link fence should be xeplaced. Community Development Technician Hennings indicated that anothex issue of concern is the swimming pool that is located on the adjacent lot. She stated that the applicant also owns this lot but has indicated that he does not wish to mexge these lots. She commented that the Building and Safety division has advised the applicant of the swuntning pool barxiex xequ~ements that must be met priox to cexrificate of occupancy. Community Development Technician Hennings stated that with the attached Conditions of Appxoval, the pxoject meets all minimum requisements of the LEMC, and xecommends that the Planning Coimnission adopt a Resolurion, appxoving the Minox Design Review of the 1,883 squaxe foot manufactuxed home and 484 squaxe foot detached gaxage, to be located at 29479 Kalina Avenue, subject to the Findings, Exhibits and the Condirions of Appxoval. Chaixman Basnes xequested the applicant appxoach the podium fox any questions that the Commission map have. Tom Hensley, 29479 Kalina Avenue, Lake Elsinoxe stated that he has xesided at this xesidence fox the past 29 yeazs. He stated that the home b~nt down in ApxIl of this yeax, PAGE 3- PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES - DECEMBER 3, 2002 and was a total loss. He indicated that he owns 5 lots, which includes a 3-c~ gaxage, a swimmi.,g pool and a swimming pool cabana, all which came thxough the City and was appxoved. He indicated that he does not want to put up a fence between the two lots that sepazate the pool and the house. He stated that Staff has xequested anothex 2-cax gaxage, which he has agxeed to. Howevex, he asked not to have the fencing xemoved and xeplaced cvith the City's enhanced wooden fence. Chairman Baxnes bxought the discussion back to the table fox Commissionex's comments. Cha~man Baxnes indicated that he did not see whexe the pool is located on the infoxmarion that was given to him. Community Development D~ectox Bxady stated that the pool is located on a sepaxate paxcel, which the applicant owns as well. Commissionex Nash stated that the applicant has fencing that goes axound the entixe five paxcels, including a safety fence axound the pool. Coinmissioner Nash conc~xed with the applicant that a fence not be put up betcveen the two pascels that sepaxate the pool from the home. He stated that the applicant would still need to comply with the swimming pool baxriexs, accoxding to the City code, howevex he stated that he concuxxed not to have anothex fence installed that would sepaxate the tcvo lots. He indicated that cuxxendy the applicant has 75% of his pxopexty fenced with chain link. He xequested that the fencing become mare consistent, especially to the front of the pxopexty. Cotnixiissionex Nash stated that his decision is based on the fact that the applicant intends on living at that pxopexty. Chairman Baxnes asked Deputy City Attorney Miles if the house was bumt down, does the City xequire the new home be bxought up to "spec." with the City's cuxxent code. Deputy City Attorney Miles stated that a new home that is xeplacing an e~cisting home, must be bxought up to code, howevex this applies to just the builcling. He stated that an inteLpzetation of what is called the vested rights doc~ine, which is fox a Design Review of a new builcling, is that thexe would be some leeway with xespect to fencing, curxent code as opposed to previously applied code, and would be at the discxerion of the Commission to apply cuxxent standaxds. Community Development Dixectox Bxady stated that when the City has a non-conformuig type of development, and someone is coming in to make an unpxovement to the pxopexty, it has been the City's policy to bxing it in to greatex confoxmance. He stated that Commissionexs might want to considex wxought ixon along the two stxeet fxontages. He stated that Staff has been tsying to eliminate chain link fence in the City. Commissionex Nash stated that because the applicant has lived at this xesidence fox a long period, and the neighboxing house also has the same type of fencing, he concurs with the applicant on not xeplacing the chain link fencing. Vice Chairwoman Matthies concuxred with Cotiuivssionex Nash, on not having the chun link fence xemoved and xeplaced with eithex wooden fencing ox wxought ixon. She also stated that she would like to see some consistency cvith the fencing. PAGE 4- PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES - DECEMBER 3, 2002 Coisunissionex LaPexe also concuxxed with Coxxunissioner Nash on the fencing issue. He asked the applicant if he had Homeownezs Ins~ance. The applicant stated, "Yes". He asked if the Homeownexs Insuxance covexed the sw~mming pool. The applicant stated, "Yes". He explained to the applicant that whethex the pool is full ox empty, that the applicant is still liable fox any injuxy that may occux. The applicant undexstood. Coimnissionex LaPexe indicated that axound the swimming pool, the City xequ~es a 6-foot fence with a self-locking gate. Couunissionex LaPexe asked the applicant if the c~xent fencing axound the pool is tempoxaxy. The applicant stated that he has used the same fencing axound the pool evex since his son was boxn. He stated that he has a 6-foot fence suxxounding his pxoperty, in addition to a 3'/z to 4foot high wxought uon fence suxxounding the pool. The applicant indicated to Cominissionex LaPeie that the e~sting fence axound the pool would be xemoved. Coxsunissionex LaPexe had no fi~thex questions. Commissionex Uhlry stated that he dxove by the pxopexty and indicated that it is a nice piece of land. He stated that he did not undexstand why anothex 2-cax gaxage was being xequested. Community Development D~ectox Bxady stated that the purpose of xequesting anothex 2- cax gaxage was because it is a sepaxate lot. He indicated that should the applicant mexge the two lots, then it would not be necessary. Conunissionex Uhlry stated that he would like to see the applicant pxovide wxought ixon ox a six foot wooden fence to the fxont poxrion of the lot that faces the stseets. Coxrurussionex LaPexe asked Community Development Dixectox Bxady appxo~nately how much money would the applicant save, should he mexge the two lots. Community Development Dixectox Bxady stated that the applicant would save the cost of the gaxage, which is about $40.00 per square foot. He stated that it would cost the applicant about $20,000.00 to build his gaxage. He indicated that the cost to mexge lots is appxo~nately $250.00 to $325.00 pex lot. The applicant again stated that he has no pxoblem having anothex gaxage built. He stated that it would be moxe convenient having the second gaxage. He stated that he xealizes that it would be cost effective to mexge the lots, but not convenient. Comnvssionex Uhlxy had no fi~thex questions. Coininissioner LaPexe had no fixxthex questions. Community Development Technician Hennings stated that modifications could be made to the Conditions of Appxoval that would consist of deleting Condirion numbex 21, and xevising Condirion numbex 20. Community Development Dixector Bxady wanted to expxess to the Commission that noxmally Staff has discouxage the use of chain link fence. PAGE 5- PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES - DECEMBER 3, 2002 Commissionex Nash indicated that the Comuiission does xealize that the City txies to disco~age the use of chain link fence. He stated howevex, in this situarion, the Commission feels that thexe needs to be some levity, and thexefoxe is allowing the applicant to keep the e~cisting chain link fence in the xeax, and have the fencing xeplaced with tubulax fencing along that poxtion which faces the public right-of-way. Chairman Bames xequested the xeading of the Resolution MOVED BY NASH, SECONDED BY BARNES AND PASSED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO ADOPT A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA, APPROVING MINOR DESIGN REVIEW OF A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL PROJECT LOCATED AT 29479 KALINA AVENUE (378-191-011) WITH THE FOLLOWING MODIFICATIONS: 20: A:vrougbt iron fence rhall be j~rovided along the property fronting Kalina Avenue. A chain link fence rhall rej~lace the :vood fence that ir along the frantage an Arnold Avenue. Tbe eazrting gate alang Arnold Avenue zvill remain. 21: . Italics indicates addition to text, ~ indicates xemoval from text. INFORMATIONAL 3. Discussion regardin~ Nuisance Abatement Heaxin~s Community Development Director Bxady stated one of the heaxing officexs has xesigned, which has pxompted Staff to xeview the process and pxoceduxes fox adiTUnistxating nuisance abatement cases. He stated that in the past the City Managex appointed two hearing officexs to xeview and make detertsunarions on nuisance abatement cases. He noted that two membexs of the Commission wexe assigned, until a few yeaxs ago. He stated that at that time, tcvo non-Coxxunission membexs wexe appointed to sexve as the hearing officexs. PAGE 6- PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES - DECEMBER 3, 2002 Community Development Dixectox Bxady stated the puxpose of this meeting is to ask the Commission if they would considex serving as the hearing boasd. He indicated that the meetings are currently held once a month, usually at 9:00 AM. on the second Wednesday. He stated that it would xequixe an amendment to the code, and would xequixe some additional xesponsibility. Chaixman Baxnes stated that in the past, tcvo hearing officexs wexe selected, and the hearings wexe held usually in the moxnings, which often caused some haxdship due to the time of the meeting. Chaixman Baznes felt that it would be best if the Coimiiission did considex serving as the heaxing board, as it would fonnalize Hearingr. Vice Chaixman Matthies asked if it would xequire any addirional Staff time. Community Development Dixectox Bxady stated that Staff tune would involve Code Enfoxcement completing a xepoxt, which would be included in the Planning Coimnissionex's Agenda packet, and having the City Attomey pxesent duxing the meetings. He stated that the biggest unpact would be on the Community Development Clexk typist, in texms of running addirional xepoxts, and typing the minutes. Coinmissionex Nash asked if this would entail structuxe abatement only. Community Development D~ectox Bxady stated that the cases would consist of pxopexty maintenance. He stated that if the Cointnission considexed serving as the heaxing boaxd, then he would dxaft a xepoxt fxom the Cotiuivssion, take action on xecommending Staff to amend the Code Secrion ox to the City CouncIl to take acrion. Comnussionex LaPexe asked if it would be necessary fox the City Council to take an action to appoint the Planning Coininission to handle this. Community Development Dixectox Bxady stated that an oxdinance would be necessary to amend the Code. Commissionex LaPexe asked if the City Council is awaxe of this considexarion. Community Development Directox Bxady stated that the City Council xeceived a Planning Commission Agenda packet that addxesses this item. He stated that the only pexson who is cuxrendy not awaxe is Tom Franron, who cuxxendy seroes on the hearing boaxd. Chairman Bames called fox a morion. MOVED BY LAPERE, SECONDED BY UHLRY AND PASSED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO HAVE THE PLANNING COMMISSION SERVE AS THE NUISANCE ABATEMENT HEARING BOARD. STAFF COMMENTS Community Development D~ectox Bxady commented on the following PAGE 7- PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES - DECEMBER 3, 2002 • He wanted to xemind evexyone that the City's wintex fest is this Fxiday, Decembex 6, which staxts at 5:00 PM. He stated that the teee lighting cexemony would take place at 6:00 PM. • He also wanted to xemind the Commission that at the next Plamung Commission meeting, the CUP fox the Motocxoss would be bxought back, and that a Public Hearing Norice has already been published, and cixculated to pxopexty ownexs wit6in a 300-foot xadius. PI.ANNING COMMISSIONER'S COMMENTS Chaixman Baxnes commented on the followine: • He had no comments. Vice Chaitwoman Matthies commented on the followinQ: • She heaxd of a gxeat idea, that any stoxe who decorated theu windows with Cl~istmas decoxarions xeceive a fxee business license. Community Development D~ectox Bxady stated that this is pxobably offexed tl~ough the Community Seivices Depaxtment fox the Downtown Business Associarion. Commissionex LaPexe comxnented on the followine: • He asked the Community Development D~ectox if the~ would be foimal action taken at the Decembex 17 Planning Comuussion meeting xegaxding the Motocxoss. Community Development Dixectox Bxady indicated "Yes". Coimnissionex Uhlry commented on the following • He had no comments. Coimiussionex Nash commented on the followin¢: • He wanted to expxess to Staff that they axe doing a good job, and the Planning Comnussion appxeciates theix haxd woxk. ADJOURNMENT MOVED BY MATTHIES SECONDED BY UHLRY AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO ADJOURN THE REGULAR PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING AT 7:06 PM. PAGE 8- PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES - DECEMBER 3, 2002 ~~~~~ HN BARNES, CHAIRMAN Respectfully Submitted ti~t~- C~ - ~tr~ ' Dana C. Poxche' Community Development Clexk ATTEST: R6bext A. Bxady, Secxetary to Planning Commission , * Italicr indicates addition to text, st~ilfet~e~gk indicates xemoval from text. MINUTES , PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING CIT`Y OF LAKE ELSINORE 183 NORTH MAIN STREET T.AKF: ELSINORE, CA 92530 TUESDAY, DECEMBER 17, 2002 The Regulax Planning Comixiission Meeting was called to oxdex at 6:01 PM. by Chaixxxian Baxnes. The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Cominissionex LaPexe. ROLL CALL PRESENT: COMMISSIONERS: BARNES, MATTHIES, NASH, UHLRY, & LAPERE ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: Also pxesent were: Community Development Dixectox Bxady, Planning Managex Villa, - Associate Plannex Millex, City Engineex O'Donnell, Community Development Clexk Poxche' and ' Deputy City Attoxney Steve Miles. PUBLIC COMMENTS NONE CONSENT CALENDAR Chairman Bames indicated that thexe is a coxxection to the Decembex 3, 2002 minutes, on page 6, second paxagtaph, the last sentence should xead, "Chairman Baxnes felt that it would be best if the Conusussion did considex serving as the hearing boaxd, as it would foxmalize the hearing.r." Community Development D~ectox Bxady stated that thexe is a coxxection to the same xnuiutes, on page 6, fixst paxagxaph, the sentence should xead, "He indicated that the meetings are currently held once a month, usually at 9:00 AM on the second Wednesday." He also stated that on the same page, paxagxaph 10, the name is Tom Franron. MOVED BY LAPERE, SECONDED BY MATTHIES AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR WITH THE NOTED CORRECTIONS. PAGE 2- PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES - DECEMBER 17, 2002 Minutes 1. Decembex 03, 2002 PUBLIC HEARINGS 2. Revocation Proceedings fox Conditional Use Pexmit No 2001-OS Lake Elsinore Motocxoss and BMX Racing and Training Facilitv Chairman Bames opened the Public Hearing at 6:03 PM, and xequested the xeading of the Staff Repoxt. Community Development D~ectox Brady indicated that the item befoxe the Conuziission is the Revocarion Pxoceedings foz the CUP No. 2001-OS Lake Elsinare Motocross and BMX Racing and Training Facility, and xequested Planning Managex Villa xeview the pxogxess with the Couiuiission. Planning Managex Villa stated that the applicant has sarisfied the 44 Conditions of Appxoval. He indicated that Condition numbex 10 had not been met, which xequixed a submission of $20,000.00 cash bond. He stated that the applicant submitted the $20,000.00 yestexday, and thexefoxe all Conditions have been met. Planning Managex Villa stated that Condirions 4, 5, 6, and 13 xequ~es periodic monitoring. He stated that the applicant has submitted a plot plan, and is acceptable by Staff. He stated that Staff has agxeed to a 45-day extension to unplement this plan. He noted that Condiuon nuxnbex 19 stated that the applicant have 2 inillion dollaxs in covexage foz the pxoject. Plannuzg Managex Villa stated that two insurance bindexs fox one million each have been submitted. Planning Managex Villa stated that the applicant is pxesent to answex any quesrions that the Comnussion may have. He also indicated that he xeceived an email letter of protest fxom Mx. Keith Penny, which a copy of the lettex has been given to each of the Commissioners and entexed into the Public Recoxd. Cha~man Barnes xequested anyone to speak in favox ox against the pxoject. Thexe being no xequests to speak, Cha~man Baxnes xequested comments fxom the Cominission. Comnussionez Nash stated that he is pleased to heax that all Condirions have been met. He stated that if the applicant has any issues that he would like to have resolved, it would need to follow the pxocess of amending the CUP. He stated that any additional impxovements would need to be xeviewed by the Cotrunission. Commissionex LaPexe conc~xed with Couunissionex Nash comments. Commissionex Matthies concuxxed with the othex Couimissionexs. PAGE 3- PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES - DECEMBER 17, 2002 Cotsunissionex Uhhy asked Planning Managex Villa about the enfoxcement. Plaiuiing Managex Villa indicated that Staff has the obligarion to conduct periodic monitoring, to ens~e that the opexation is complying with the Condirions. Cominissionex Uh1ty indicated to the applicant that he too is pleased to see that everything has been xesolved. He had no furthex comments. Chaixman Baxnes stated that the pxoject is a benefit to the City. He asked the applicant if he agxees to all of the Condirions of Appxoval. Randy Hinex, 33350 Elizabeth Road, Temecula, CA indicated that he agxees to the Conditions of Appxoval. Cha~man Baxnes closed the Public Hearing at 6:13 PM and called fox a motion. MOVED BY LAPERE, SECONDED BY MATTHIES AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO TAKE NO ACTION, AND TO RULE THE OPERATION IN FULL COMPLIANCE WITH THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL. 3. Tentative Parcel Map No 30832 Abbacy Holding Corporation Chairman Bames opened the Public Hearing at 6:21 PM, and xequested the xeading of the Staff Repoxt. Community Development Dixector Bxady stated that this pioject is TPM No. 30832 and xequested Planning Managex Villa xeview it with the CoiniTiission. Planning Managex Villa stated that Bill Kipp is the applicant and is xequesting appxoval to subdivide 7.47 acxes of vacant land into 9 commexcial paxcels and two lettex paxcels of the Canyon Cxeek "Suxmnerhill" Specific Plan. He stated that the axea is located at the southwest cornex of the intexsection of Suu7xnexhill Dxive and Canyon Estates Dxive within the Canyon Cxeek Specific Plan. Plannuig Managex Villa indicated that the laigest paxcel is 44,866.8 squaxe feet and the smallest is 22,651.2, just ovex a half of an acxe. He stated that the avexage parcel size is 32,428 squaxe feet appxoxunately '/o of an acxe. He noted that the applicant has gone to ~eat lengths to pxopose a pxoject that is pedestxian oxiented. Planning Manager Villa commented that a pxevious Negative Declaxarion Env~onmental document had been pxepaxed as paxt of the pxevious pxoject which pxovides cleaxance fox this pxoject, and a Mitigarion-Monitoring Pxogxam has been adopted and will be implemented. PAGE 4- PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES - DECEMBER 17, 2002 Planning Managex Villa xecommends that the Planning Commission adopt a Resolution, xecommending the City Council appxoval of Tentarive Paxcel No. 30832, based on the Findings, Exhibits, and subject to the Conditions of Appxoval. Plannuig Managex Villa indicated that the applicant is pxesent fox any quesrions that the Commission may have. Chauman Barnes requested comments fox ox against the project. William Kipp, Abbacy Holding Coxpoiation, 361 Railxoad Canyon, Suite C, Lake Elsinoxe, CA. The applicant stated that he xeceived a comment sheet from Planning Managex Villa, which has been addressed and xetuxned to Planning Managex Villa and City Engineex O'Donnell. He stated that all comments wexe xesolved with the exceprion of Condition No 18. The applicant indicated that he spoke with the City Engineex about Condirion No. 18, and could not make a decision on how it should be handled. The applicant indicated that the City is xequixing the developex to pay a Railxoad Canyon Benefit Assessment Fees at the xecoxding of the map. He stated that he feels that the Railxoad Canyon fees should be divided by 9, and paid by each ownex ox developex of each paxcel. The applicant stated that 45 days ago he pulled a building pexmit and paid the Railxoad Canyon fees. He stated that he spoke with the City Engineex who told him that the K-xat fee would be pxorated. He indicated that his Engineex, John Canty is also pxesent this evening to answex any questions. Cha~man Baxnes xequested comments fxom the Cominission. Cotnmissionex Uhlxy asked about the changes to the Conditions of Appxoval, and wanted some explanation about Paxcel A. The applicant indicated that thexe axe two lettexed lots, A&B. He stated that both have easements flow down to the San Jacinto watex shed. He stated that these lots will be given to Municipality and will txade off fox othex land so they can be maintained. He stated that these lots can not be developed because of the easements. He indicated that xathex than woxking ~ound that, the developex leveled lots A& B. Commissionex Uhlry asked if the easements cxossed that one section. The applicant stated yes, and indicated that it also goes undex the fxeeway at that point. Community Development Dixectox Bxady xequested City Engineex O'Donnell to go d~ough the xevisions of the Condiuons of Appxoval. Planning Managex Villa wanted to advise Community Development Bxady that thexe has been a xevision to Condition No. 8 whexe it stated; The applicant shall pay applicable fees and obtain pxopex cleaxance from the Lake Elsinoxe Unified School District (LEUSD) p~ox to issuance of building pexmits. He stated that the woxd applicant should be changed to ownex. He noted that Staff has accepted tlvs change. PAGE 5- PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES - DECEMBER 17, 2002 City Engineex O'Donnell stated that thexe has been xevisions to several Conditions and xequested to go ovex all of them. He stated that on Condirion 18, the final sentence shall xead, "K-xat fees can be paid at the building pexmit at $415.00 pex lot." The final sentence of Condirion No. 24 shall xead, "To the extent such access is gtanted by the City Engineex." Condition No. 25 shall xead, "The City shall enter into an agxeement with Abbacy Holding Cotp fox xeunbuxsement if the txaffic unpact fee fox the pxoject is less than the total cost fox installing the traffic signal." Condirion No. 32 shall xead, "The centex line of the private stseet shall be offset with the centex line of Bouldex vista Drive no moxe than 10 ft." The fmal sentence of Condirion No. 35 shall xead, "This does not include the txaffic signal." Condition No. 47 shall xead, "A dxunage acceptance letter will be necessary fxom the doums~eam ox dxainage easement ownexs fox outletting the pxoposed starmwatex run-off onto pxopexty offsite." Condition No. 50 shall xead, "Dxiveway access shall be lnnited on Suuunexhill Dxive as noted on the Conceptual Site Plan, but in no case no moxe than 2 driveways will be allowed subjected to the appxoval of the City Engineex." City Engineex O'Donnell stated that Condition No. 53 would be added to xead, "Assessment Distsict 90-1A and 89-1 shall be Teappoxrioned as to the benefit spxead and this shall be paid by the developex." Chautnan Barnes asked the applicant if he agxeed with the xevisions. The applicant stated that he agxees with all of the Conditions with the exception of Condition No. 18, whexe it discusses K-xat fees. Commissionex LaPeTe ask if the fee wexe fox all of the pascels togethex. City Engineex O'Donnell indicated yes. Comnvssionex LaPexe stated that he heaxd the applicant xequest that the Railxoad Canyon Fees be divided among the othex paxcel ownexs. City Engineex O'Donnell stated that is coxxect. He indicated that if the Condition No. 18 changed, the applicant would pay the Railxoad Canyon fees that would be pxoxated fox each paxcel. Commissioner Uhlry asked clarification on the recoxding of the final map. He asked if the fees have to be paid, as the Condirions xead now. PAG~ 6- PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES - DECEMBER 17, 2002 City Engineex O'Donnell stated that is coxxect Comtnissionex Uhlry asked if that was by Oxdinance, ox could the Coiiunission xecommend to the City Council that if the Condition changed to; at building pexmit. City Engineex O'Donnell stated that the xevision to Condition No. 18 would be acceptable. Commissionex Uhlxy asked the applicant if this xevision would be acceptable The applicant indicated yes. Commissionex Matthies asked if the Commission is allowing the K-xat fee to be paid at the time of the building pexmit, then would the Coinmission also accept having the Railxoad Canyon fee paid then as well. City Engineex O'Donnell stated that only City Council could make that xecommendarion, since it was an Oxdinance. Community Development Dixectox Bxady stated that the Commission could make a xecommendarion to the Council, and move fonvaxd fxom thexe. Commissionex Matthies stated that she would like to have City Council revise Condirion No. 18. Coinmissioner Nash asked if the access off of SLUSUnexhill was a pexmanent access fox a left turn. City Engineei O'Donnell stated that thexe would not be any left t~ns. He stated that it would be only right tuxn in and out, and would xestrict the total numbex of access points. CotrunissioneT Nash indicated that he is concexned with the steepness of Summexhill Dxive and the traffic coming down the hill. He asked if the~ would be any lights added to Summexhill Dxive. Chaixman Baxnes explained that in Condition No. 25, it states that thexe would be a traffic signal constructed at Summexhill Drive and Canyon Estates Dxive. Conunissionex Nash stated that he too concuxs to have the Railxoad Canyon fees split between the pascel ownexs. Chaixman Baxnes asked City Engineex O'Donnell if thexe is a conflict between Condition No. 24 and Condition No. 50. City Engineex O'Donnell indicated that thexe is a conflict between the two Condirions, and that was the pucpose of having Condition No. 50 zevised. PAGE 7- PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES - DECEMBER 17, 2002 Chaixman Baxnes xecommended having Condirion No. 24 struck City Engineex O'Donnell stated that in Condition No. 24, it discusses xestricting the driveway movement, not the numbex of driveways. He stated that in Condition No. 50, it discusses the numbex of ~iveways. CommissioneY Nash pointed out that the pxoject would be heaxd by the Cominission later fox Design Review. Chaixman Baxnes suggested xewoxding Condition No. 50 to state that; on Summexhill Drive as noted on the Conceptual Site plan. He stated that he feels that thexe should be just one access, and should be agxeed upon tonight. Applicant Bill Kipp stated that the County F~e Depaztment xequ~es additional access above the~ guidelines for f~e contsol. He stated that the putpose of having the addirional access is fox safety purposes for a latei date. Commissionex LaPexe asked if we had a Condition that covexs that Citp Engineex O'Donnell stated that a second driveway would need the approval of the City Engineex and Txaffic Engineex. Chaixman Baxnes asked the Coxmnission if they had any furthex quesrions. City Attorney Miles wanted to point out that on Condirion No. 24 it could be in conflict with Condirion No. 50 and suggested that at the end of the sentence add; to the extent, such access is authoxized by the City Engineex. Chautxian Baxnes asked the applicant if he agxeed to this xevision. Applicant Bill Kipp stated yes. Chaixtnan Basnes asked if thexe wexe any fiuthex questions. Being none, he requested the xeading of the Resolurion with xevisions to the noted Conditions and closed the Public Hearing at 6:49 PM. MOVED BY NASH, SECONDED BY LAPERE AND PASSED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO ADOPT RESOLUTION NO. 2002-60, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF T.AKF ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA, RECOMMENDING TO THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE APPROVAL OF TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP NO. 30832, WITH THE FOLLOWING MODIFICATIONS: #8 The a~lieatr~ oumershall pay applicable fees and obtain proper clearance from the Lake Elsinore Unified School Distxict (LEUSD) pxior to issuance of building pexmits. PAGE 8- PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES - DECEMBER 17, 2002 #18 Pay all Capital Improvement and Plan Check fees (LEMC 1G.34, Resolution 85-2G). The Railroad Canyon Rd. fee is $20,106. The K-rat fee is $3,735.00. K-rate fees can be paid at buildingpermit at $415.OOperlot. #24 The lots adjacent to Summexhill Dr. shall have theit access restricted to right turn-in and right turn-out only on Summetlull Dxive to the extent such access is granted by the CityEngineer. #25 Developer shall design and construct a traffic signal Summechill Drive, and Canyon Estates Dxive. The City shall enter into an agxeement with Eke-ap~liesrx~Abbacy Holding Corp. foc reimbursement if the traffic impact fee for the project is less than the total cost fot installing the traffic signal. The traffic impact fee will be $3.35 per sq. ft. of building fox commercial and $1.26 pec sq. ft. of building foc of5ce. The traffic signal shall be opexational at the 5cst cextificate of occupancy for any building on Paccel Map 30832. #32 The center line of the private street skenl~ a}igiz shall be offsetwith the center line of Boulder Vista Drive, no more than 10 feet. #35 Applicant shall submit a traffic control plan showing all traffic control devices fox the tract to be apptoved priox to final map appxoval. All traffic control devices shall be installed prior to final inspection of public improvements. This includes No Parldng and Street Sweeping Signs foi stxeets within the tract. This does not include the Traffic Signal. #47 A dxainage acceptance lettet will be necessary ftom the downstream private pcoperty ownexs or drainage easement oumers for oudetting the pxoposed stocmwatex run-off onto properry offsite. #50 "T~ ~~-----~°--:°, ,~~ °'~°„ '~--~ °--' Driveway access shall be limited access skall-~ie resEriete~ on Summethill Dr. a~-se as noted on Conceptual Site Plan, but in no case no more than 2 driveways will be allorved subjected to the approval of the City Engineer. #53 Assessment Districts 90-1A and 89-1 shall be reapportioned as to the benefit spread and tfiis shall be paid by the developer. Italics indicate addition to text, sEeiketkreugk indicates removal fxom text. BUSINESS ITEMS PAG~ 9- PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES - DECEMBER 17, 2002 4. Design Review of Residential Project No. 2002-07 Amendment No 1 Community Development D~ectox Bxady stated that this is a Design Review fox the Plan 1 and Plan 2 fox this xesidenrial pxoject and xequested that Associate Plannex Linda Millex xeview it cvith the Commission in Monika Hennings absence. Associate Plannex Millex indicated that t6is is a xequest fox a pxeviously approved 14 lot single-family pxoject located on Mill Stxeet, Pazkway, and Avenue 6. She stated that the applicant xecendy xeceived appxoval fox Plan 3 of this pxoject at the Octobex 15, 2002 Planning Commission, howevex did not submit all thxee plans. Associate Plannex Millex stated that Plan 1 is a 1,428 sq. ft. single story home with 3 bedxooms and 2 baths and Plan 2 is a 1,515 sq. ft tcvo stoiy home with 3 to 4 bec~ooms and 3 baths. Associate Plannex Millex indicated that since the oiiginal appxoval of this pxoject, it was determined that Avenue 6 is designated as a majox xoad in the Genexal Plan. She stated that cuxxendy the xoad has a 30' half-width. She noted that the applicant has been advised to pxovide a 20' xight-of -way fox all the lots along Avenue 6. She indicated that due to this new development, it has affected lot number 26, and thexefoxe the lot will xemain vacant. Associate Plannex Millex indicated that this pxoject meets the xequixements of the Lake Elsinore Municipal Code (LEMC) and xecommends that the Planning Commission adopt a xesolurion based on the Findings, Exhibits, and Conditions of Appxoval. Chairman Baxnes xequested fox Cotiuiussionexs comments Commissionex Nash asked Associate Plannex Millex if lot numbex 26, would xemain undeveloped. Associate Plannex Millex commented that the pxoject is being handled by Technician Hennings, and could not comment on any pxoposed developments. Howevex, she indicated that moxe than likely the applicant would fmd a way to build anothex home on this lot. Commissionex Nash had no fuxthex comments Comnussion LaPexe asked Community Development D~ectox Bxady if this pxoject and othexs like this could be handled adininistsatively. Community Development D~ectox Bxady indicated to Cominissionex LaPexe that the Corrunission would need to appxoval the models, howevex the individual lots could be appxoval admirustxatively. Comnvssionex LaPexe had no furthex questions. PAGE 10 - PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES - DECEMBER 17, 2002 Vice Chauwoman Matthies asked about Condition No. 26, whexe it discusses the elevation facing the public xight-of-way. She asked if this applied to the right-of-way when backing to the schools. Associate Plannex Millex indicated that Staff could add vexbiage to the Conditions so the rivo-story home that backs the ~ght-of-way to the school pxovides addirional axchitectutal treatments. Vice Chairwoman Matthies had no fuxthex comments. Commissionex Uhlry asked if the lot assigntnents axe going to xemaui the same as pxeviously appxoved, to include the floox plans with the exceprion of lot numbex 26. Associate Plannex Millei stated yes. Chairman Barnes asked about the dedication of the 20 feet, and how it would be handled with the eacisting lot. Community Development Dixectox Bxady stated that the lot that is in discussion is not owned by the applicant, and would be the xesponsibility to the ownex of that lot. Chairman Baxnes had no fuxthex quesuons, and xequested the xeading of the Resolurion. MOVED BY LAPERE, SECONDED BY NASH AND PASSED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO ADOPT RESOLUTION NO. 2002-61, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF T.AKF' ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA, APPROVING DESIGN REVIEW OF RESIDENTIAL PROJECT NO. R 2002-07, AMENDMENT NO. 1 WITH THE FOLLOWING REVISION TO CONDITION NO. 26 #26 When a secorid story elevation faces a public right-of-way or a public facility additional architectucal treatments shall be xequired. Enhanced Architectural treatments shall include suxrounds for windows, shuttets or othei architectuxal featuxes pei the apptoval of the Communiry Development Directoc or designee. Italics indicates addirion to text, ~eagk indicates xemoval fxom text. 5. Minor Design Review of two Single Family Residences located at 31170 and 31172 Wisconsin Street (APN 379-202-005 and 379-202-006~ Community Development Directox Bxady stated that the pxoject befoxe the Coxnnussion is a Minox Design Review fox two Single Family Residences, and xequested that Associate Plannex Millex xeview it with the Cominission. PAGE 11 - PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES - DECEMBER 17. 2002 Associate Plannex Miller stated that this pxoject is fox two single-family units on two adjacent vacant lots. She indicated that each lot is 5,000 squaxe feet and would have a 1,639 sq. foot dwelling, with a 210 sq. ft. covexed patio. She indicated that each unit has 3 bedxooms, 2 bad~oom, and a family xoom. She indicated that Staff feels that each unit meets the minimlun xequixements of the LEMC and xecommends that the Planning Couuxiission adopt a Resolurion, based on the Findings, Exhibits, and Conditions of Appmval. Chairman Baxnes xequested comments fxom the Coimnission. Couuxiissionex Nash indicated that he wished that the applicant wexe present fox this meeting. He stated that he was not pleased with the layout. Othexwise, he indicated that everything else looked fine, and had no fixxthex quesuons. Conunissioner LaPexe had no quesrions Vice Chavwoman Mattlues had no quesrions Cotiuiussionex Uhhy stated that he likes the idea of the layout. He indicated that this development would help enhance the axea, and is looking foxwaxd to seeing it built. Chairman Barnes wanted to point out that this axea is sepric and not sewer. Commissionex Uhlry agxeed and stated that the area of discussion was in the district of Elsinoxe Valley Watex District, and they cuxiendy do not have any sewex sysrem in that axe. Thexe being no f~thex coxnments fxom the Commission, Cha~man Baxnes xequested the xeacling of the Resolurion. MOVED BY NASH, SECONDED BY BARNES AND PASSED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO ADOPT RESOLUTION NO. 2002-62, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA, APPROVING MINOR DESIGN REVIEW FOR TWO SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES LOCATED AT 31170 AND 31172 WISCONSIN STREET - APN 379-202-005 & 379-202-006. INFORMATIONAL ITEMS • Chaixman Barnes asked Community Development Dizector Bxady the status of the City Council appxoving the Planning Commission seroing as the Heaxing Boaxd fox the Nuisance Abatement Hearing. Community Development Dixectox Bxady indicated that a code amendment would need to be completed fust, and then it would go to the City Council fox appxoval. PAGE 12 - PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES - DECEMBER 17, 2002 STAFF COMMENTS Community Development D~ectox Bxad~ commented on the following • He wanted to wish Staff, and the Cominission Happy Holidays. PLANNING COMMISSIONER'S COMMENTS Chaixman Baxnes commented on the followine: • He wished all Happy Holidays. Vice Chainvoman Matthies commented on the following: • She wished all Happy Holidays. Conunissionex LaPere commented on the followin~: • He wished all Happy Holidays. Commissionex Uhlry commented on the following • He wished all Happy Holidays. Commissionex Nash commented on the followine: • He wished all Happy Holidays. ADJOURNMENT MOVED BY MATTHIES SECONDED BY LAPERE AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO ADJOURN THE REGUT.AR PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING AT 7:17 PM. BARNES, CHAIRMAN PAGE 13 - PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES - DECEMBER 17. 2002 Respectfully Submitted ~~C ~~~~~` Dana C. Poxche' Community Development Cleik ATTEST: Robext A. Bxady, Secxe~azy to the Planning Couuiiission * Italicr indicates addirion to text, s~ikt~eagk indicates xemoval from text.