HomeMy WebLinkAboutCC-08/22/2000MINUTES
REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
183 NORTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA
TUESDAY, AUGUST 8, 2000
CALL TO ORDER
The Regular City Council Meeting was called to order by Mayor Brinley at 7:05
p.m.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Community Services Director Sapp
INVOCATION
The Invocation was provided by Dr. Gary Musgrove representing Horizon Church.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: KELLEY, METZE, PAPE,
SCHIFFNER, BRINLEY
ABSENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: NONE
Also present were: City Manager Watenpaugh, Assistant City Manager Best,
City Attorney Leibold, Administrative Services Director Boone, Community
Development Director Brady, Community Services Director Sapp, Fire Chief
Seabert, Police Chief Walsh, Information /Communications Manager Dennis,
City Treasurer Ferro and City Clerk/Human Resources Director Kasad.
PRESENTATIONS
A. Presentation - Economic Development Corporation of Southwest Riverside
County Golf Tournament. (17:56.1)
Diane Sessions, Economic Development Agency representative, noted that
the City is a member of this organization. She also noted that this was the
6' Annual Golf Tournament, but the first municipal contest. She
congratulated the City's Golf team, consisting of Ken Seumalo, Rich Hess,
Robin Chipman and Duane Morita, on their win in the municipal contest.
Mayor Brinley thanked staff for their representation of the City. Ms.
Sessions expressed appreciation for the City's continued support and
complimented the City Council on the recent Main Street improvements.
B. Presentation - Unity in the Community Parade. (17:62.1)
Jeanie Corral, representing the Unity in the Community Parade, noted that
this will be their fourth annual Parade. She also noted that last year there
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were over 3,000 student and adult participants; and detailed the
participating groups. She announced that this year's event will be held on
November 18th at 10 a.m. with the event being over by noon. She requested
community participation and volunteers; and noted that the event is a
product of the Community Action Planning Workshop, intended to work
toward making the community a better place. She noted that it was felt that
a parade was a tangible product which would demonstrate their dedication
to the effort. She offered special thanks to business community
representatives and other community organizations. She invited potential
participants to contact her to participate.
C. Presentation - Planning Commissioner Sands. (F:60.2)
Mayor Brinley noted that former Planning Commissioner Sands was not
able to be present at this meeting. She expressed thanks to him for his
service to the community, expressed appreciation for his work and stressed
that he was an asset to the community. She indicated that she would have
the plaque delivered to his home.
D. Proclamation - State Champion of the Junior Olympic Tae Kwon Do -
Evalee Guerra. (F:122.1)
Mayor Brinley read and presented the Proclamation to Evalee Guerra and
commended her on her success.
E. Proclamation - Riverside County Sheriffs Three Lakes Posse Rodeo.
(F: 127.2)(X: 122.1)
Mayor Brinley read and presented the Proclamation to Gary Brown and Dan
Uhlry on behalf of the Posse. Gary Brown, President of the Three Lakes
Posse organization thanked the Council for this Proclamation and noted that
in the past the Lake Elsinore Valley Rodeo was a landmark event and
looked forward to it gaining that status again in the future. He announced
that this year's event would be dedicated to Dave Vik and the volunteers of
past rodeos.
Dan Uhlry, Treasurer of Three Lakes Posse and Codirector of the Rodeo,
invited Mayor Brinley to participate as a Grand Marshal at the rodeo.
Mayor Brinley thanked the posse for this invitation. Mr. Uhlry announced
that the Rodeo would be held September 1 -3, 2000 at 7:30 p.m., with a
dance to follow.
PUBLIC COMMENTS - AGENDIZED ITEMS
Requests were received to address the following items and deferred to those
discussions:
Item Nos. 31 and 33.
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CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS
The following items were pulled from the Consent Calendar for further discussion
and consideration:
Item Nos. 5, 7, and 8.
MOVED BY PAPE, SECONDED BY KELLEY AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO APPROVE THE BALANCE OF THE CONSENT
CALENDAR AS PRESENTED.
The following Minutes were approved:
a. City Council Study Session - July 13, 2000.
b. City Council/Redevelopment Agency - July 24, 2000.
C. Regular City Council Meeting - July 24, 2000. (17:44.4)
The following Minutes were received and ordered filed:
d. Planning Commission Meeting - July 19, 2000. (F:60.3)
e. Design Review Commission Meeting - July 19, 2000. (F:60.4)
2. Ratified the Warrant List for July 31, 2000. (F:12.3)
3. Approved Contract with Jauregui & Culver, Inc. for the Construction of the
Restroom Renovations at the Community Center in the amount of $31,219;
and authorized the City Manager to execute the contract. (F:64.3)
4. Declared the IBM Photocopier Surplus and authorized disposal at auction.
(F: 48.1)
6. Approved C.D.B.G. Sponsor's Agreement Senior Citizen's Center - Fiscal
Year 2000 -2001, and authorized staff to execute the necessary agreements.
(F:84.2)
PUBLIC HEARINGS
21. Resolution Nos. 2000 -37 and 2000 -38 - Confirming Placement of Weed
Abatement and Nuisance Abatement Costs on the Property Tax Roll.
(F:166.1)(X:32.4)
City Manager Watenpaugh noted that this was an annual housekeeping
item. Community Development Director Brady reiterated that this was a
standard annual procedure for placement of assessments on the tax rolls. He
indicated that staff sent out about 5,000 notices for weed abatement, and the
majority of the property owners abated the property; however the City had
to have about 893 properties cleaned. He further indicated that there were a
total of 8 nuisance abatement properties for placement on the rolls. He
requested Council approval of the required resolutions.
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Mayor Brinley opened the public hearing at 7:29 p.m., asking those persons
interested in this item to speak. Hearing no one, the public hearing was
closed at 7:30 p.m.
Councilwoman Kelley indicated that she had no problem with this action
which is the annual housecleaning to get problem properties abated.
Councilman Metze concurred, noting that this was an annual consideration.
Councilman Schiffner indicated that he was glad to see that there were no
appeals filed in this process.
MOVED BY PAPE, SECONDED BY BRINLEY AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO ADOPT RESOLUTION NOS. 2000 -37 AND 2000-
38; AND DIRECTED STAFF TO PLACE SPECIAL ASSESSMENTS
AGAINST THE PROPERTIES LISTED IN THE ITEMIZED REPORT
FILED IN THE CITY CLEKR'S OFFICE.
RESOLUTION NO. 2000-37
A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE,
CALIFORNIA, CONFIRMING AN ITEMIZED WRITTEN REPORT
SHOWING COST OF WEED AND RUBBISH ABATEMENT,
CONFIRMING THE ITEMIZED WRITTEN REPORT FOR EACH
SEPARATE PARCEL OF LAND REQUIRED BY SECTION 39574 OF
THE GOVERNMENT CODE OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA,
AND PROVIDING THAT THE COSTS THEREOF ON EACH
PARCEL OF LAND SHALL CONSTITUTE A SPECIAL
ASSESSMENT LIEN AGAINST SAID PARCELS OF LAND
PURSUANT TO SECTION 39574 OF GOVERNMENT CODE OF
THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA, AND PROVIDING FOR THE
FILING OF SAID ASSESSMENTS AS PROVIDED IN SAID
GOVERNMENT CODE.
RESOLUTION NO. 2000-38
A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE,
CALIFORNIA, CONFIRMING AN ITEMIZED WRITTEN REPORT
SHOWING COST OF NUISANCE ABATEMENT, CONFIRMING
THE ITEMIZED WRITTEN REPORT FOR EACH SEPARATE
PARCEL OF LAND REQUIRED BY SECTION 39574 OF THE
GOVERNMENT CODE OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA, AND
PROVIDING THAT THE COSTS THEREOF ON EACH PARCEL OF
LAND SHALL CONSTITUTE A SPECIAL ASSESSMENT LIEN
AGAINST SAID PARCELS OF LAND PURSUANT TO SECTION
39574 OF GOVERNMENT CODE OF THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA, AND PROVIDING FOR THE FILING OF SAID
ASSESSMENTS AS PROVIDED IN SAID GOVERNMENT CODE.
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BUSINESS ITEMS
31. Renewal of Animal Control Ap-reement - Animal Friends of the Valleys.
(F:68.1)(X:18.3)
City Manager Watenpaugh stated that this was a request to move forward
with a new contract for Animal Friends of the Valley. He noted that two
weeks ago Council held a Study Session regarding this issue and discussed
a number of related issues, including an increase in the amount of the
contract from $75,000 to $85,000 for Animal Control services,
implementation of an Administrative Citation Program, Feline Registration
Ordinance, service levels and appropriate budget reporting.. He
recommended that Council consider the four suggestions made by staff and
direct staff to implement their decision. He indicated that staff from Animal
Friends of the Valley were present to answer any questions from Council.
Mayor Brinley asked that General Manager Washington and Assistant
Director Bagwell be available for questions.
Dixie Schleiger, 20765 Alameda Del Monte, Wildomar, stated that she was
in support of Animal Friends of the Valley and noted that the importance of
cat licensing was not immediately apparent to the public. She further noted
the number of cats being saved because of the licensing. She commented
on a recent newspaper article regarding the microchips that have been
placed on adopted animals in Los Angeles and indicated that Animal
Friends of the Valley has been using microchips for the last seven years.
She commented that since the first of the year the State of California has
required all adopted animals to be spayed or neutered and Animal Friends
of the Valley implemented that program five years ago. Ms. Schleiger
stated that Lake Elsinore may not be the City that was recognized as the
first to license cats, however she felt that was not as important as cat
licensing being done. She commended the Council for its forward thinking
and saving the lives of cats.
Chris Hyland, 15191 Wavecrest Drive, criticized Council for questioning
Animal Friends of the Valley for requesting a $10,000 increase in their
contract amount. She stated that in her opinion, Animal Friends of the
Valley was saving the City of Lake Elsinore money. She stated that the
City Council had no qualms about the amount of lawsuits pending against
the City of Lake Elsinore, nor the amount of money spent on trips taken by
Council and Management. She commented that Council does not hesitate to
spend money to renovate restrooms at the Community Center and build a
skateboard park, but will not spend money to take care of our animals. She
stated that elected officials have their own agenda and nothing to stop them
from following that agenda. She chastised Council for following a selfish
agenda in regard to such a small increase.
Ann Washington, General Manager of Animal Friends of the Valley, stated
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that LEAF would not have been in existence if not for three
Councilmembers in 1988 that awarded LEAF the contract for Animal
Control services for the City of Lake Elsinore. She noted that five years ago
the Animal Control Contract was reduced by $20,000 due to the City's
financial problems. She noted that LEAF did not reduce their service level
and stuck by the City through a trying financial time. She explained that
they did come back to Council and explained that if they were going to
work with more animals due to an increasing City population, they needed
to take steps to cut down on surplus animal problems by licensing cats. She
noted that there is a $10 fee for an altered cat and a $35 fee for an unaltered
cat for a three -year license. She indicated that most cat owners do not want
kittens and out of the 777 licensed cats in the system, all but five are altered.
She further noted the license fees for altered and unaltered dogs. She noted
that Animal Friends of the Valley offers assistance for spaying and
neutering if the animal owners cannot afford to do so on their own. She
explained that the City of Lake Elsinore was the first to increase the
unaltered license fee to $50, and indicated that many other cities have
followed. Ms. Washington stated that when LEAF began the program, 58%
of the licensed animals were altered and today 85% are altered. She noted
that altering animals reduces the number of strays that exist in the City. She
stated that with the City's assistance, LEAF advertised cat licensing and
gave a 60 -day amnesty period on violation fees and at that time canvassed.
She stated that several Councilmembers had told her that they received
complaints regarding cat licensing and felt uncomfortable regarding the
issue. She explained the number of stray cats that LEAF received and the
number that died in the past versus the thousands of cats that have been
saved through cat licensing. She thanked the City for its proactive
approach. She noted that the City of Lake Elsinore was a model for other
cities because of the reduction in the number of animals received in LEAF's
shelter. She stated that the law worked because LEAF worked the program
and utilized the law, along with the cooperation of the governing body and
the citizens of the community. She noted that in the 1970's feral cats,
which are wild cats abandoned by their owners, overran the City's streets
and alleys. She detailed other specific animal related problems of the past
and provided statistics on the animals taken into the shelter. She stated that
twice as many animals come to the shelter from the unincorporated area
around the City of Lake Elsinore, than all of the four cities put together.
She noted that the County has good ordinances on their books, however
they do not have the staff, resources or will to enforce those ordinances.
She noted that Animal Friends of the Valley had not had an increase in
funding since they lost the $20,000 five years ago, and indicated that they
were now asking for two things. She stated that they were asking for the
contract fee to be increased by $10,000 and authorization to implement an
Administrative Citation Program. She explained that the Administrative
Citation Program would greatly streamline their program and their officers
would not have to return to residences numerous times to resolve an issue.
She noted that several of the cities they service asked that LEAF have a user
fee study done to determine what it costs to cover their expenses for Animal
Control. She stated that they hired DMG to do the study and it has been
provided to Council. She noted the reports of their activities that Animal
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Control provides to the City and felt that the City was kept well informed.
She noted the article in the newspaper that suggested that LEAF had
questionable billing practices and stated that all the members of Animal
Friends of the Valley (LEAF) have integrity; and noted that their
organization has provided a full service Animal Shelter and the statement
really bothered her. Councilman Metze asked if the reporter had spoken to
her directly. Ms. Washington stated that he had not. She further stated that
she hoped that was not how the City felt about Animal Friends of the
Valley. She noted that that the findings of the User Fee Study showed that
it costs $.40 a mile to cover their vehicle expenses which amounts to $7,700
a year as well as a $1,000,000 insurance policy which costs $2,000 per
vehicle a year. She noted the cost of maintenance on the vehicles.
Mayor Brinley stated that her concern was regarding canvassing of
neighborhoods and going door to door. She further noted that she needed to
know the minimum and maximum that the State required for canvassing.
She noted that the City was paying for the personnel to perform this duty
and Council felt their time could be better utilized. She stated that her other
concern was with the way the budget was presented to Council. She stated
that the budget is done on a calendar year, instead of a fiscal year budget.
She stated that she had no problem with the increase of $10,000, however
she was concerned about the canvassing and the method of budget used by
Animal Friends of the Valley. She noted that the City must provide for
increases in_their.budget review and if Friends of the Valley does a year -end
budget, it does not allow the City a proper opportunity to plan for an
increase in contract amount. She noted that to provide for the increase
requested the amount would have to be taken from the City's Reserves. She
stated that the City Council would also like to see a certified audit to allow
Council to see what services each City pays for and receives.
City Attorney Leibold stated that there had been a declaration for Counties
in California for the year 2000, for what is designated as Rabies Areas. She
noted that there had been an increase in sightings of rabies and incidents in
listed areas, of which the City of Lake Elsinore was a part. She stated that
there was a recommendation through the National Association of State
Public Health Veterinarians on how to address Rabies Areas and how to
combat the problem. Mayor Brinley asked if the City of Lake Elsinore is
considered a "High Rabies Area ". City Attorney Leibold stated that every
county in California is considered a Rabies Area for the year 2000, because
of high incidence of rabies. She stated that one of the procedures
recommended by this Association was neighborhood canvassing. She
stated that as she understands this issue, it is not a statutory mandate by the
State Legislature, however it is a recommendation by the Association of
Veterinarians to address the problems associated with the spread of rabies.
Mayor Brinley asked if when the canvassing of Lake Elsinore was done, it
was done on the same basis and ratio as canvassing in Temecula, Canyon
Lake and Murrieta. Ms. Washington stated that they were on the same
basis, however when the Ordinance for cat licensing was implemented,
LEAF did do a special canvassing program in Lake Elsinore. She stated
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that had not been done in several years and the canvassing now done was
from expired license printouts.
Councilman Metze asked if there was supporting recommendations from
anyone besides the Veterinarians Association. He stated that he would
expect nothing more from a bunch of veterinarians in an organization to
say, "more shots, every dog in the world should be vaccinated ". Ms.
Bagwell stated that the Department of Health Services for the State of
California has declared every county in California as rabies areas.
City Attorney Leibold stated that what the State does require is the protocol
to declare a rabies area. She noted that where there is a rabies area there is a
requirement that every dog over the age of 4 months be vaccinated. She
clarified that it was the recommendation of the Veterinarians Association to
canvass. Ms. Bagwell stated the California Health and Safety Code, Section
121690 mandates that the governing body of each city or county shall
maintain or provide a rabies shelter control system and a rabies control
program. She noted that part of the rabies control program was canvassing
to make sure that the dogs are licensed and vaccinated. She stated that it
was Animal Control's best tool.
Mayor Pro Tern Pape noted the exchange of ideas at the Study Session, and
commented °'on the recommendations regarding the mileage on the vans as
well as $11,000 a year to set aside for a new van. He stated that the City was
provided information that stated that the City van logs 20,000 miles a year,
therefore, replacing the van after 60,000 miles does not seem reasonable,
since the City just replaced a vehicle that had 190,000 miles on it. He
suggested that the vans be replaced every 4 years, instead of every three
years. He recommended improving the accounting procedures and stated
that if the accounts are examined, the financial situation of LEAF was not
clear. He stated that there was no clear picture of the assets or liabilities.
He concurred that LEAF should consider auditing their books every year.
He noted that the City, RDA and all other agencies do an audit; and
suggested that now that LEAF represented four cities and the County, a
good set of books was important. He further stated should LEAF try to get
a bank loan, they would be required to produce financial statements that are
audited. He encouraged LEAF to keep their books on the same fiscal year
as their clients; and noted that all the entities start their years on July I". He
stated that it might be easier to coordinate all four cities to conform. Mayor
Pro Tern Pape stated that Lake Elsinore is just over 30,000 people and is
paying just as much or more for Animal Control services as the City of
Temecula, which has a population of over 50,000. He noted that he was
aware that the City of Temecula receives 30 hours of service versus 50
hours that the City of Lake Elsinore receives and wondered if Lake Elsinore
really needed 50 hours. He noted that in the documents received by Council
there was a large hourly increase for the Animal Control Officer, from $31
per hour to $41 per hour, which is a 32% increase. He stated that according
to the report from DMG, the first increase was due to the move to the
interim facility and it will increase to $45 an hour per officer when they
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move into the new facility. He said his main concern was that the cost
would be going up when the move was made to the new facility. He stated
that at some time in the near future Council was going to have to decide
how much the City would spend towards supporting a $4,000,000 Animal
Control facility. He stated that there were 20 cities that issue cat licenses
and there were 475 cities in the State of California. He stated that he was
out and about asking people what they thought about cat licensing. He
noted that one lady stated that she would move before she would license her
cats. He noted that some people have strong feelings about cat licensing
and he had strong feelings about the need to eliminate the neighborhood
canvassing program. He stated that he felt it was just too aggressive to be
out knocking on doors and stating that the person had a dog licensed at the
address, and questioning if they still had, it; seeing a cat in a window and
questioning the owner. He felt it was too heavy handed. He suggested
that language be changed on page four, item (i). He stated that he felt the
City should not adopt the Administrative Citation Program for licensing for
the same reasons he stated regarding canvassing. He explained that going
door to door takes up time and effort that could best be better spent
elsewhere. Mayor Pro Tem Pape stated that LEAF should allow the pet
owner up to 30 days before the time their license expires, to renew the
license for their pet. He stated that especially for people on a fixed income,
whose checks are not coming every week, as this would give them the time
to get the additional money to get the vaccinations and have the money to
send in to renew the license. He noted that currently there was such a large
penalty that he was concerned that a lot of people would rather take the
chance of not getting caught, rather than take the chance of paying such a
large penalty if they missed it by a few days. He stated that he understands
LEAF's concern when they have a problem animal and have to make
frequent visits to resolve an ongoing problem, and agreed that on the first
visit a notice should be left on the door indicating what the problem or
complaint was and who to call to try to resolve the problem. He stated that
hopefully they will take care of it, and if the Animal Control Officer had to
return, then he would support an Administrative Citation being issued at
that time to resolve the problem and keep the Officer from having to make
repeated trips.
Councilman Schiffner stated that he was in favor of the agreement as
presented, with an exception. He stated that he would like to approve the
$10,000 increase for the year 2000/2001 and cut back with some of the
other recommendations that have been made concerning accounting
procedures. He stated that in review of LEAF's accounting procedures he
had difficulty in balancing apples and apples. He stated that it was difficult
to balance the cost of Lake Elsinore and the other cities. He stated that the
City was happy with the services and should pay for its share, however he
would like the services that the City is paying for to be more specific. He
stated that the City should approve the contract for one year only and give
the Council the opportunity to examine the contract after some of the other
suggestions have been met. He addressed cat licensing and stated that he
was sure anyone that owned a cat would be opposed to it, - however from his
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understanding the use of licensing has greatly reduced the number of
animals that have been destroyed, and indicated that was much more
important than the few dollars involved. He stated that before he would be
willing to change the licensing for cats, he would want to hear a lot of
discussion about the probability of how many lives of cats it has saved or
how many cats have been saved by those procedures. He stated that he
would prefer to leave cat licensing alone. He stated that although Lake
Elsinore was one of the very few cities in the State that had cat licensing,
didn't mean it was bad, but rather that the City might be exceptionally good.
He stated that he was in favor of Administrative Citations and stated that it
was not only for the purpose of licensing dogs, but also for the purpose of
handling complaints of barking dogs and vicious dogs, realizing that now
when the owner is cited; they go to court; the court fines them; the court
gets the money; and the owner still doesn't have a license. He stated that if
the process was handled by Administrative Citations the money collected
would go into the City's own Animal Control organization and provide an
opportunity to solve some of the problems. He indicated that when an
Animal Control Officer goes to a residence on a barking dog call and cannot
find the owner, they can issue the citation and resolve the problem. He
stated that there was a lot more to the issuance of Administrative Citations
than just dog licensing. He stated that he was definitely in favor of taking
some action to make the Administrative Citation take force. He stated that
it might be that the City would want to extend the time limit to 30 days,
however he felt that Animal Control needed that program. Mayor Brinley
asked if Councilman Schiffner would like to address any of the other issues.
Councilman Schiffner stated that he would like to see the City approve the
increase of $10,000 for one year and bring it back to Council in 2001 for
further review after LEAF has had the opportunity to address some of
Mayor Pro Tern Pape's suggestions. He stated that in July 2001, LEAF will
have addressed some of the concerns and bring a proposal with figures that
could be assessed to allow the Council to consider what the City's fair share
is for the . operation. Mayor Brinley asked if Councilman Schiffner wished
to address the hours of service. Councilman Schiffner stated that was part
of what should be brought back and considered in the next year. He stated
that he was satisfied that LEAF provided adequate service to account for the
additional hours at this time, however he did not want to make that
perpetual until Council looks into the other questions.
Councilman Metze concurred with Councilman Schiffner that the $10,000
increase should not be in question and should be approved tonight. He
stated he did not want the perception that there was some big problem and
noted that in 1988 three Councilmembers helped to get LEAF off the
ground. He asked if Ms. Washington found the current Council difficult to
deal with. Ms. Washington stated she did not. Councilman Metze stated
that he had someone come up to him and accuse Council of working on
their own agenda; and stated that he wanted the people at home to know that
Council is not attacking LEAF. He asked if Ms. Washington thought that
Council had worked well with LEAF in the past. He noted that some nasty
things were said about Council and their relationship with LEAF. Ms.
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Washington stated she felt this Council had been very forward thinking and
they had always listened to what LEAF had to say. She stated that she felt
that LEAF and the City have had a good partnership. She noted that there
were 5 votes to put the cat licensing into effect and increase the fees for dog
licensing. She indicated that she did have some concerns from the
newspaper article, but that was not the impression that she had from Council
at the Study Session. Councilman Metze concurred with Councilman
Schiffner that the $10,000 increase should be approved, but suggested that
more discussion was needed. He further suggested that a Council
committee of two should sit down with LEAF and address the issues which
have been discussed. He indicated that 14 days was not enough for
licensing, since a large part of the population commutes out of the area; and
questioned what the incentive would be for a person to license their pet after
a $100 fine. He inquired if the 1:30 to 3:30 p.m. time frame is enough to
vaccinate all of the animals. Ms. Washington indicated that it was generally
adequate, but they stay late when necessary. Councilman Metze stated that
he felt that LEAF's accounting system should be compatible with the cities
that they serve, and suggested that there were several questions needing
answers before he would be in favor of the Administrative Citation
Program. He indicated that there were several other issues which need to be
addressed. He further indicated that he has not heard much about the cat
licensing issue, however now that it has been discussed, he anticipated
comments from the public. He suggested that if there was going to be an
Administrative Citation Program it would be best to set it for a 30, 60 or 90
day process. He commended LEAF for the good job they do and indicated
that he would agree to the $10,000 increase, with the Administrative
Citation Program going to a sub - committee.
Councilwoman Kelley commend LEAF for a job well done over the years in
Animal Control. She stated that she felt that the contract for Animal
Control was a good one and she did not have a problem with the $10,000
increase. She indicated that the City is getting a multitude of services and if
Lake Elsinore had to do what its neighbors do and pay per service then it
would far exceed the $85,000. She noted that all of the questions were
hammered out at the Study Session; and indicated that she does favor the
Administrative Citation Program, as it is needed to improve the efficiency
since the Animal Control Officers have to make multiple trips to the same
address to catch the owner at home to gain a signature on the citation. She
stated that Ms. Washington had assured the Council at the Study Session
that when an Administrative Citation is issued, the offense is well founded
and the officers have investigated the issue thoroughly. She noted that there
is an appeal process and reiterated that she is in favor of the Administrative
Citation Program as it will eliminate the multiple trips to a residence. She
stated that there was no need for a committee to study the issue and felt that
the staff from Animal Friends of the Valley and the City staff could work
out an Administrative Citation Program that could be brought before
Council and addressed at that time. She indicated that with staff handling
the issues, the process could move forward in a timely manner. She noted
that Ms. Washington was aware of Council's concerns regarding the 14 day
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time limit and felt that staff was capable of handling the changes that
needed to be made. Councilwoman Kelley stated that she concurred with
Mayor Pro Tem Pape regarding canvassing and felt that it was far too
aggressive, however she felt that when the Administrative Citation program
was in place there would not be much need for canvassing. She stated that
she did not want to see the hours reduced, but asked that they would follow
up with the Fiscal Year issue, revise their form of bookkeeping and allow
the City to plan for increases; and have the staff of Animal Control work
with the City staff to develop an Administrative Citation Program. Mayor
Brinley asked Councilwoman Kelley's opinion regarding the mileage costs.
Councilwoman Kelley stated that it was all part of the contract and she did
not have a problem with it, and indicated that she felt the City was getting a
lot of service that we wouldn't occur if the City had to pay per service.
Councilman Schiffner stated that he would like to have some action that
would move the Administrative Citation Program forward. He stated that it
was his understanding that this could be done through the existing
ordinance and possibly by adding something to the contract. He indicated
that he would like his fellow Councilmembers to state their objections to the
program. He stated that some conditions could be worked out to satisfy
Council's concerns and objections to the program. He suggested that if
those concerns could be met with some conditions, then possibly the
Animal Friends of the Valley could move forward with the program.
Mayor Brinley suggested that some of the verbiage in the contract could be
modified to satisfy all people concerned.
Councilman Metze asked what the rush was and stated that Animal Friends
of the Valley could wait for a committee review.
Mayor Brinley stated that it was her understanding that what was being
proposed was to award a one year contract; the Administrative Citation
clause changed to be more flexible with a 60 day period instead of 14 days;
retaining the 50 hours of service; and an increase in contract funding of
$10,000. She stated that it was the Council consensus that the cat licensing
is to be kept in place since the program is working. She suggested that
rather than Council trying to work through the contract, it would be better to
have both staffs meet and work through the Program. She requested that
the City Attorney assist in this effort. City Attorney Leibold stated that staff
could work together to make modifications per Council direction, but staff
needs clear direction.
Mayor Brinley stated that Council would like to see a Fiscal Year
accounting system; a certified audit to clarify costs; as well as modification
to the Administrative Citation Program.
City Attorney Leibold stated that perhaps the context in which staff could
evaluate the Administrative Citation procedures implemented by the Animal
Control Officers in a broader context. She stated that Community
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Development Director Brady and the Office of the City Attorney have just
started to look at existing Administrative Citation procedures City -wide,
and it might be appropriate for staff to do an overall review and bring it
back to Council. She indicated that in that context it could also be
evaluated with regard to Animal Control Citations.
Mayor Pro Tem Pape stated there was discussion regarding a change in the
verbiage on page 4 addressing canvassing, to clarify what it is and what the
Council wants. He asked if the City Attorney had put the verbiage together.
City Attorney Leibold stated that it depended on what Council wanted. She
stated that the information was not available until this evening.
Councilman Metze stated that there are just too many unanswered issues to
just give Animal Control a blanket approval for the Administrative Citation
Program. He stated that there were too many unknown factors.
Mayor Brinley clarified that what was before Council was the $10,000
increase to the Animal Friends of the Valley contract: She stated that
Council would not be making a decision on the Administrative Citation
Program, but rather providing verbiage to staff for the modification. She
indicated that the verbiage on Page 4, item (i ) and what Council wants it to
say; the verbiage on the Administrative Citations; the Fiscal Year Budget
for Animal Control and the Certified Audit.
Mayor Pro Tem Pape noted that it would be a little like putting the cart
before the horse, if the City was going to put the money up before all the
questions were answered.
Councilman Schiffner stated that was why he suggested that the contract be
for a 1 -year period only. He noted that it could be brought back and
addressed, which would give Animal Friends of the Valley.the opportunity
to answer and confirm the questions and concerns that Council has had. He
stated that this would allow Council the opportunity to consider this issue
properly at budget time.
Councilwoman Kelley stated that as far as she was concerned the contract
should stand as it was proposed. She stated that the $10,000 increase was
fine and takes care of the per mile cost and vehicle. She stated that she did
not see a need for a committee to work on the Administrative Citation
Program and stated that Animal Friends of the Valley and staff heard
Councils' concerns at the Study Session and felt that they were well
equipped to come up with an Administrative Citation Program that Council
could easily support. She stated that it is not a matter of being in a hurry,
but rather there is no need for this issue to continue on and on.
Mayor Brinley stated that the object of the discussion is to give a comfort
level to the total Council. She stated that she was looking for a way to work
through the issues without causing a conflict through adding and modifying
some verbiage and then move on. She stated that the contract would be for
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a one -year period and during that period Animal Friends of the Valley could
work on the other concerns and develop a new contract.
Mayor Pro Tern Pape stated that what was being requested at this point was
to approve the Animal Control services that was being presented in the
Agenda this evening. He noted that item ( i ) addressed inspections and
canvassing issues. He stated that if the document was going to be approved,
Council needed to deal with those issues. He stated that Council, as a whole
did not have a problem dealing with the Administrative Citation Program.
He noted in the contract the canvassing was going door to door and looking
for people with pets that didn't have licenses and there was a need to clarify
that it was not Council's intent to do so. He asked that the City Attorney
develop language that expresses Council's opinion. He addressed the
Administrative Citation program and stated that it was something that
needed to be clarified, since Council supported the program, if there was a
problem animal, but not as part of the canvassing program.
Councilman Schiffner stated that his biggest concern was problem animals.
He noted that Council has had people speak before them that expressed their
frustration with barking dogs.
City Attorney Leibold stated that the Administrative Citation Program was
separate and distinct from canvassing. She stated that the issue of
canvassing could be modified and clarified to Council's intent. She asked
Council for their clear intent regard canvassing. She stated that the Animal
Friends of the Valley have indicated in the last couple of years they canvass
only in the area they have received a call and have been much less
aggressive. She stated that it was her understanding the Council would
support license inspections in the context of other field services. She
clarified that if in the course of a response on a complaint basis, the Animal
Control Officer identifies an unlicensed animal, then it would be
appropriate to cite. She further clarified that if the Animal Control Officer,
in the course of performing their duty utilized the list that identified animals
that had not been renewed, while following up with unlicensed animals that
are stray or outside and visible, without going door to door or on private
property, then it would be appropriate to cite.
Mayor Brinley reiterated that it was her understanding that the consensus of
Council was to see a less aggressive program for canvassing.
City Attorney Leibold again asked Council to clarify if they wished no
canvassing, or canvassing only in the course of field service. She stated that
she did not know how the City would define the scope to be "less
aggressive ".
Councilman Schiffner stated his understanding was that the concern over
the fact that the City was paying mileage and time for the canvassing and
that was what was to be eliminated.
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Ms. Washington stated that Animal Friends of the Valley has not done a
canvassing program since 1996, when the cat licensing first went into effect.
Mayor Brinley stated that a number of residents in the community have said
just the opposite. She asked Council to clarify what they want.
Councilman Schiffner asked if canvassing could be eliminated pertaining to
dog licenses.
City Manager Watenpaugh stated that Council could do whatever they want,
however it would be most helpful if someone on Council would make a
motion to define what Council wants, then staff could have a direction to
follow.
Mayor Pro Tern Pape suggested the subject matter be broken into several
key points and then Council could consider and moved on each item
individually. He suggested that a motion could be made to change the
language in the contract to read: While in field service the animal control
officer does not utilize their list and start knocking on doors of people that
use to have a licensed animal, however if a dog was at large they would deal
with it.
MOVED BY PAPE, SECONDED BY SCHIFFNER TO HAVE SECTION
1(i), READ: THE ANIMAL CONTROL OFFICER, WHILE IN THE FIELD,
WILL NOT KNOCK ON THE DOOR OF RESIDENTS BY UTILIZATION
OF THEIR LIST OF PREVIOUSLY LICENSED DOGS, HOWEVER IF A
DOG WAS AT LARGE THE ANIMAL CONTROL OFFICER COULD
ADDRESS THE LICENSING AT THAT TIME.
Councilwoman Kelley asked if Animal Friends of the Valley does a
notification by mail. Ms. Washington stated that they do send renewal
notices and the people who are contacted personally, are the people that do
not renew their licenses. She stated that if they cannot go to the residents,
then they might as well not send renewal notices and people can just
withdraw from the licensing system if there is no way to enforce the license.
She explained that the renewal notice is sent 30 days prior to expiration and
there is a 30 -day grace period after expiration. She indicated that two
weeks before the penalty period becomes effective a post card is sent to
remind the owner. She stated if the owners knew they did not have to
renew, then they would not.
Councilman Schiffner stated that it was not the intent of Council to keep
Animal Control from pursing renewals. He stated what Council does not
want to see is an Animal Control Officer going door to door to ascertain if
the resident owns an animal and if it is licensed. He stated if the Animal
Control Officer knows that there is a dog and the license has not been
renewed, then they should be allowed to address the issue.
Councilwoman Kelley stated that Mayor Pro Tem Pape's motion prohibited
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Animal Control from using their expired list to contact people that have not
renewed their dog or cat licenses.
Mayor Brinley stated that Animal Control needs a way to approach the
owner's home and advise them that they have not responded to the previous
notices and advise them that they will be fined. She indicated that it should
not be for the purpose of soliciting new dog licenses. She suggested they
could follow up on existing licenses that have expired, however she did not
want to see Animal Control Officers going door to door soliciting.
COUNCILMAN SCHIFFNER WITHDREW HIS SECOND FROM THE
FOREGOING MOTION.
COUNCILMAN METZE SECONDED THE FOREGOING MOTION
THE FOREGOING MOTION FAILED BY A VOTE OF 2 TO 3 WITH
BRINLEY, KELLEY AND SCHIFFNER CASTING THE DISSENTING
VOTES.
MOVED BY KELLEY TO RENEW THE EXISTING CONTRACT WITH
ANIMAL FRIENDS OF THE VALLEY, INCLUDING THE $109000
INCREASE FOR A ONE YEAR PERIOD; THE STAFF OF ANIMAL
FRIENDS OF THE VALLEY TO MEET WITH THE STAFF OF THE CITY
OF LAKE ELSINORE TO DEVELOP THE ADMINISTRATIVE
CITATION PROGRAM.
Mayor Brinley asked that the motion be modified to clearly state that
canvassing was prohibited for soliciting purposes.
MOVED BY KELLEY, SECONDED BY SCHIFFNER TO AMEND THE
MOTION TO RENEW THE CONTRACT WITH ANIMAL FRIENDS OF
THE VALLEY WITH THE AMENDMENT TO SECTION 1 (i) TO
INCLUDE: "CANVASSING IS PROHIBITED FOR THE PURPOSE OF
SOLICITATION OF NEW DOG LICENSES; APPROVING THE $10,000
INCREASE FOR A ONE YEAR PERIOD; AND THE STAFF OF ANIMAL
FRIENDS OF THE VALLEY TO MEET WITH THE STAFF OF THE CITY
OF LAKE ELSINORE TO DEVELOP THE ADMINISTRATIVE
CITATION PROGRAM.
Mayor Pro Tem Pape stated that the motion would be creating two sets of
people, those that have licensed pets in the past and those who are new pet
owners. He noted if the owners have never licensed them, they will not be
visited.
Councilwoman Kelley indicated that they have not gone door to door in
four years and would now have 60 days to renew their license, through mail
notices. She stated that the ones the Animal Control Officers will visit are
the people that have not come through after 60 days. She stated that the
Animal Control Officers hands would be tied otherwise.
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Mayor Brinley concurred with Councilwoman Kelley.
Councilman Schiffner indicated that any other way, Council would be
eliminating dog licenses altogether.
Mayor Pro Tem Pape asked what addressed Section 10 regarding record
keeping.
Councilwoman Kelley stated that the motion was for a one -year renewal
and stated that the requirements were already included in Section 10.
Mayor Brinley stated that the motion should be modified for clarification of
the change for the accounts to be done on a Fiscal Year rather than on a
Calendar Year and a certified audit.
City Attorney Leibold stated that the direction for the Administrative
Citation Program was part of the motion and would be brought back before
Council at a future date.
Councilman Schiffner clarified that all of the other items were to be brought
forward at a later time and that was the purpose of the one -year contract.
Mayor Brinley reiterated that she would like to see the Fiscal Year
addressed.
Councilman Schiffner indicated that it was part of the recommendations that
would be brought back before Council at a later date.
Mayor Brinley clarified the motion and stated that the motion would include
the fiscal year change and the requirement for an audit.
City Attorney Leibold stated that as a point of clarification she was not sure
there is a consensus between those who made and seconded the motion with
respect to the Fiscal Year and the audit of financial statements. She stated
that she heard two things: 1) We don't want to incorporate this into this
agreement; and 2) We want it incorporated into next years' agreement. City
Attorney Leibold indicated that no amendment was made.
Mayor Brinley stated that if the change was made to the Fiscal Year and an
audit is done, the City has a better clarification for next year when Council
makes a decision of where the money is being spent. Councilman Schiffner
asked if this would be included in this contract. Mayor Brinley confirmed
and stated that it would just be the Fiscal Year and audit.
MOVED BY KELLEY, SECONDED BY SCHIFFNER TO AMEND THE
MOTION TO INCLUDE THE CHANGE TO FISCAL YEAR FOR THE
ANIMAL FRIENDS OF THE VALLEY ACCOUNTS AND AN AUDIT TO
BE PERFORMED.
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THE FOREGOING MOTION WAS APPROVED BY A VOTE OF 3 TO 2
WITH METZE AND PAPE CASTING THE DISSENTING VOTES.
Ms. Washington questioned the timing of the discussions regarding the
Administrative Citation Program. Council indicated that it would begin
right away.
32. Designation of Voting Delegate /Alternate for League of California Cities
Annual Conference. (F:108.8)
Mayor Brinley explained this item.
MOVED BY BRINLEY, SECONDED BY PAPE AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO APPOINT COUNCILMAN SCHIFFNER AS THE
VOTING DELEGATE FOR THE LEAGUE OF CALIFORNIA CITIES
ANNUAL CONFERENCE.
MOVED BY BRINLEY, SECONDED BY PAPE AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO APPOINT COUNCILWOMAN KELLEY AS THE
ALTERNATE VOTING DELEGATE FOR THE LEAGUE OF
CALIFORNIA CITIES ANNUAL CONFERENCE.
33. Procedure for Appointing Nuisance Abatement Hearing Officers.
(F:32.4)(X:120.1)
City Manager Watenpaugh noted suggestion that the Planning
Commissioners could be assisted in sitting on the Nuisance Abatement
Board. He indicated that the Community Development Director and the
City Attorney have reviewed the existing ordinances, and determined that if
the Council was interested in appointing two people it could be done in the
current format within the Municipal Code; however the selection of three
members would require an amendment to the Municipal Code. City
Manager Watenpaugh questioned the ability to select an alternate under the
existing Code. City Attorney Leibold confirmed the ability to name an
alternate. City Manager Watenpaugh suggested that the Council make a
recommendation to the City Manager for these appointments.
Mayor Brinley noted that there were a number of well rounded people who
applied for the Planning Commission, who want to really get involved with
the City. She suggested that this approach would give them more
opportunities to participate. She indicated that it would also assist with
future Planning Commission appointments. She clarified that the Planning
Commissioners were currently serving as the Nuisance Abatement Hearing
Officers. Mayor Brinley recommended the appointment of Mr. David
Cheney and Mr. George Rivera, with Mr. Tim Crawford serving as the
alternate.
MOVED BY PAPE, SECONDED BY SCHIFFNER AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO APPOINT DAVID CHENEY AND GEORGE
RIVERA TO SERVE AS THE NUISANCE ABATEMENT HEARING
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OFFICERS, WITH TIM CRAWFORD SERVING AS THEIR ALTERNATE.
34. City/EVMWD Joint Statement of Cooperation. (F:92.6)(X:146.2)
City Manager Watenpaugh provided an overview of the staff report as
presented; and stressed that staff feels that it is very critical that the City and
Water District move forward positively to support the Joint Powers
Authority to ensure the success of the efforts. He noted that this relates to
the JPA's $15 million, as well as a portion of SAWPA's $235 million. He
explained that the cooperative projects will serve as a pilot for future
projects. He stressed the importance of assuring that all alternatives are
evaluated and cooperative efforts occur between the Water District and
City. He highlighted the short term projects which would be necessary and
noted that the City and the Water District are currently funding them
directly. He indicated that staff had put a lot of time into trying to identify
issues to ensure success; but there were still a number of issues to be
resolved; however joint action will be very positive for the community. He
noted the draft presented was prepared by staff had been reviewed by the
City Attorney, was not legally binding; but it was important that both sides
were agreeing.
Mayor Brinley noted that she and Councilman Schiffner had worked with
the staff of the City land Water District to come up with the agreement; and
felt it was a blueprint for cooperative action. She suggested that this was a
door of opportunity for a better relationship between the agencies and a
chance to better the community. She suggested that this agreement was
long overdue and requested comments from the other Councilmembers.
Councilman Metze indicated that City Manager Watenpaugh had stated the
situation well and he couldn't agree more. He suggested that emphasis
needs to be placed on the fact that reclaimed water was not the first choice
and noted the existing Fill and Operate Agreement. He indicated that this
would be allowing work to proceed and agreeing to look at reclaimed water.
He concurred that it was necessary to cooperate with the Water District.
Mayor Brinley stressed that the statements were not prioritized in any way.
Councilman Metze commented that there would still be a number of hoops
to jump through prior to using reclaimed water; and it would be foolish to
not agree with this agreement. City Manager Watenpaugh noted that he
had been working with EVMWD's Assistant General Manager John Rossi
regarding Lake water and a supplemental plan, when the elevation hits the
1240' elevation. He noted that they were setting up a meeting with
Metropolitan Water District and are in the process of looking at options. He
noted that there would be an 18 month process required to allow for
reclaimed water. Councilman Metze noted that money still might not solve
the problems, but stressed the importance of joint efforts to approach the
State and Federal representatives for additional funds. He indicated that he
had no problem with the proposed statement of cooperation.
Councilwoman Kelley commended City and Water District, staff and boards
PAGE TWENTY- CITY COUNCIL MINUTES - AUGUST 8, 2000
on their efforts on this statement. She stressed the importance of finding a
statement that all can embrace. She indicated that this was a very positive
step with a very public document and stressed the importance of this action
for the community. She offered her wholehearted support of the statement.
Mayor Pro Tern Pape noted that the two agencies had come a long way in
the past two years and it was great to see them working closer together to
solve a mutual problem. He indicated that the joint goals were clearly
written. He expressed concern with the need for water and questioned the
evaporation rate. City Manager Watenpaugh indicated that the level will be
at the 1240' level in the next few months. Mayor Pro Tem Pape indicated
that unless there is a very wet winter, water will be necessary and it was
important to be addressing the wells and the water coming over Canyon
Lake dam, as part of the Tilley Agreement." He suggested that it would be
easier to get the wells turned on now to maintain the level; and stressed the
need to lay out an action plan immediately to prevent being caught behind
the curve for next summer. He stressed that the burden of proof for use of
reclaimed water is very high and it will be important to review it
thoroughly.
Councilman Schiffner indicated that the staff and board representatives
have met several times and noted that there are still some disagreements, but
they have attempted to put together a joint statement of cooperation with the
Water Department. He indicated that nothing had been given up in the way
of rights, and although there are still disagreements, it is better to spend
time on the points of agreement. He suggested that this agreement was a
beginning in the right direction.
MOVED BY METZE, SECONDED BY KELLEY AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO APPROVE THE JOINT STATEMENT OF
COOPERATION BETWEEN THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE AND THE
ELSINORE VALLEY' MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT AND DIRECTED
CITY STAFF TO WORK IN CONCERT WITH THE STAFF OF
ELSINROE VALLEY MUNCIPAL WATER DISTRICT AND THE LAKE
ELSINORE AND SAN JACINTO WATERSHEDS AUTHORITY.
35. Amendment to City Ordinance for Towing Service. (F:104.1)
Mayor Brinley noted that a continuance of this item had been requested to a
date not certain.
MOVED BY SCHIFFNER, SECONDED BY KELLEY AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO CONTINUE THIS ITEM AS REQUESTED.
THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING WAS RECESSED AT 9:07 P.M.
THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING RECONVENED AT 9:20 P.M. WITH
ALL MEMBERS PRESENT.
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ITEMS PULLED FORM THE CONSENT CALENDAR
5. Resolution No. 2000 -36 - Supporting the Use of Needle Cricothyroidotomy.
(17:127.1)
City Manager Watenpaugh noted that the City had received a request from
Temecula for support of the Emergency Medical Treatment. He noted that
there was a situation in Temecula which originated this request and
explained that this was a treatment which could have been used. He advised
that medics are trained in this procedure and about 75% of California uses
it. He indicated that the proposed Resolution supports the use of the
method and requests authorization of his type of use in the County of
Riverside.
Mayor Brinley indicated that she pulled this item to bring it to the attention
of the community. Mayor Pro Tem Pape indicated that this procedure is
currently prohibited in this County and suggested that it might be beneficial
to allow for this option. He suggested support of the proposed Resolution.
MOVED BY PAPE, SECONDED BY KELLEY AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO ADOPT RESOLUTION NO. 2000-36:
RESOLUTION NO. 2000-36
A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF LAKE
ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA, SUPPORTING FIELD PARAMEDICS
USE OF NEEDLE CRICOTHYROIDOTOMY WITH JET
INSUFFLATION PROCEDURE.
7. 2000 -2001 C.D.B.G. Supplemental Agreement for 26' Year Funds.
(F: 84.2)
City Manager Watenpaugh noted a typographical error on page 5 of 34,
which should have shown the date under Item # 1 General Agreements at
June 15, 1999; and requested that it be corrected for the record.
MOVED BY KELLEY, SECONDED BY SCHIFFNER AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO APPROVE THE SUPPLEMENTAL
AGREEMENT WITH THE CORRECTION AS NOTED.
8. Mission Trail Property Appraisals. (F:156.2)
City Manager Watenpaugh noted the appraisals needed on three parcels of
land, to facilitate the joint project for Mission Trail between Riverside
County and the City. He indicated that all other right -of -way had been
obtained with the exception of these three parcels. He expressed belief that
the project could move forward in late September or early October. He
indicated that the money is available, and while there are some questions
regarding the timing, the project was still moving forward on schedule.
MOVED BY SCHIFFNER, SECONDED BY METZE AND CARRIED BY
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UNANIMOUS VOTE TO RATIFY THE CITY MANAGER'S
AUTHORIZATION TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE APPRAISALS IN
AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $7,000.
PUBLIC COMMENTS - NON - AGENDIZED ITEMS
Debra Crawford, President of the Elsinore Valley Arts Network, announced that
Poetry Books were now available for sale containing the 26 poems submitted for
this year's Young Poets Contest. She also announced the "Music with a View"
concert series, which will begin on August 12' at 7 p.m. at McVicker Park and
detailed the concerts to be presented. She noted that the concerts would all be
free and encouraged participation. She indicated that persons interested in more
information could contact her at 678 -5924.
Virginia Ruffino, 980 Park Way, indicated that she was present on behalf of the
Lake Point Park early walkers. She thanked the Council for fixing the sprinkler
problem she reported at the last meeting; and indicated that the group was very
grateful for this assistance.
Tammy Alfieri, 29524 Westwind Drive, addressed delayed responses from law
enforcement and lack of patrol. She requested quicker response times to 911 calls
and stressed the number of incidents requiring such service in her neighborhood,
including car burglary and home invasion incidents. She stressed their concern for
response times and suggested that there had been very little investigation of recent
events. She stressed her concern for living in a safe neighborhood and having
crimes investigated more thoroughly. Mayor Brinley thanked Ms. Alfieri for her
input and suggested a follow -up discussion with Chief Walsh.
Bill Tucker, aka Whiskers, 740 Acacia, noted the upcoming newsletter called
Catfish Platter, which will be available throughout the community. He indicated
that the launch ramp repairs were complete and good comments were being
received. He also'announced the formation of a new fishing club and encouraged
interested parties to contact him at 245- 9976..
Ace Vallejos, 15231 Calle Cobre, Cleveland Ridge resident, expressed concern
and support for the current districting initiative petition. He encouraged support
in Spanish and English and encouraged residents to sign the petition.
Chris Hyland, 15191 Wavecrest Drive, noted an article from the July 30'x'
Californian Newspaper. She suggested that the Council intends to continue to
obtain new debt to pay old debts. She suggested and detailed the potential
negative impacts to the public. She encouraged residents to sign the initiative
petition. She also encouraged people to review Elsinore Magazine.com. She
noted an article by Mr. Allen of Wildomar regarding credit card debts and lake
contamination.
CITY MANAGER COMMENTS
City Manager Watenpaugh commented on the following:
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1) Noted that the Public Hearing regarding the Outlet Center
modifications to their specific plan would be on the next agenda.
2) Advised that the Riverside County Integrated Plan, Habitat Study
Session would be held on August 17'" at 2 p.m., in the Cultural
Center; and invited participation.
3) Noted that a tentative date of September 21" at 2:30 p.m. had been
selected to have a presentation by John Husing. He indicated that the
meeting would be open to the general public and be for the purpose of
receiving new demographic information. Council concurred with the
proposed date.
CITY ATTORNEY COMMENTS
City Attorney Leibold noted that four items had been listed on the Agenda for
closed session consideration, however the fourth item was heard by Judge Holmes
last Friday and taken under submission, so no action or direction was need at this
time. She announced items A through C as listed on the agenda.
California Joint Powers Insurance Authority - Councilwoman Kelley indicated
that there was nothing new to report, and thanked Administrative Services
Director Boone for attending on her behalf.
Crime Free Multi- Housing Project - Mayor Brinley indicated that the third
seminar would be presented on August 10'", with nine property manager pre-
registered for the all day session.
Economic Development Corporation of Southwest. Riverside County -
Councilman Schiffaer requested that Assistant City Manager Best provide an
update on this committee, since she was the active member. Assistant City
Manager Best noted the Golf Trophy presented this evening and commended staff
for their participation. She indicated that the last luncheon was held on July 27th
and announced that the next luncheon would be held on September 28' with a
demographic review of the region.
Lake Elsinore and San Jacinto Watersheds Authority - Mayor Brinley
indicated that the JPA passed a budget of $8.2 million for lake projects and
detailed the projects as approved. She indicated that work would begin on the
Lake as soon as the money is received. She announced that the next meeting
would be held on September 6' and encouraged the public to attend.
Lake Elsinore Chamber of Commerce Economic Development Committee -
Councilman Metze. Councilwoman Kelley indicated that she had been attending
these meetings as the alternate to Councilman Metze, and noted that their web
page was up and going.
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Multi - Species Habitat Committee - Councilman Schiffner indicated that this
group was scheduled to meet on August 7', but postponed to August 28� . He
indicated that there was nothing new to report, but the project was shaping up and
there would probably be more reportable action in the near future.
Riverside County Transportation Commission - Mayor Pro Tern Pape advised
that the Board meeting was dark in August, but a budget meeting was scheduled
for the end of the month. He also noted that there was a Highway 74 ad hoc
committee meeting, but there was nothing new to report.
Riverside Transit Agency - Mayor Brinley announced Try Transit Week which is
scheduled for September 13 -18, 2000. She detailed the festivities planned for the
week and announced the new facility opening in Hemet on August 19', and
invited participation.
Satisfy 2020 Committee - Councilwoman Kelley announced that this Committee
would be meeting on Friday, August 11`x' for the first time in about six months.
Western Riverside Council of Governments - Mayor Brinley indicated that she
had nothing to report on this Agency.
CITY COUNCIL COMMENTS
Councilwoman Kelley commented on the following:
1) Noted the "Music with a View" Concert Series and clarified that they
will skip the Labor Day weekend.
2) Indicated that she failed to mention the CAP conference at the last
meeting and highlighted the activities and programs discussed during
the 2 -1/2 day conference.
3) Addressed the Young Poets Contest presented by EVAN for the last
two years and read a winning poem from last year's contest, entitled
"I Am A Rose ", by an 11 year old girl. She noted that the writer had
been killed in a car accident and today had been her funeral. She
indicated that EVAN was establishing a poetry scholarship in her
name to go to one of next year's poetry contestants.
Councilman Metze had no comments.
Councilman Schiffner commented on the following:
1) Indicated that he wanted to come to the support of the Sheriffs
Department. He expressed sympathy of the concerns the public, but
noted that on three instances he had called the Sheriffs Department
for a suspicious car in the neighborhood and the response were in 8
minutes or less and the situation was taken care of He noted the
level of service in Lake Elsinore versus the level in larger cities such
PAGE TWENTY -FIVE - CITY COUNCIL MINUTES - AUGUST S, 2000
as Long Beach.
Mayor Pro Tem Pape commented on the following:
1) Indicated that while attending a Public Safety Policy Committee
meeting in San Francisco he saw a presentation on a program called
"Every 15 Minutes ". He explained that it was part of a 1990 program
which sought to address the one person killed by a drunk driver every
15 minutes. He indicated that the number had been improved to one
every 30 minutes, but stressed the need to reduce the numbers even
further. He noted that there was an education program which focused
on junior and seniors in high school to stress the responsibility for
drinking and driving and stressed the dramatic effects of the program
on its participants. He suggested that this program would be of real
benefit to the young people in Lake Elsinore and requested Council
concurrence to get with the police and schools to put together such a
program for the next school year. He further suggested alternating
the program between the two high schools.
Mayor Brinley commented on the following:
1) Announced the Lake Elsinore Mounted Posse rode which will be held
from September 1 -3, 2000, with tickets on sale starting August 11', at
Circle K locations in Lake Elsinore, Wildomar and Norco. She
indicated that they would be $10 pre -sale and $12 at the gate; with
children ten and under being free. She encouraged public
participation.
2) Announced that she was still working on a fund- raiser for Cops for
Kids, being a Blast from the Past event. She indicated that it was
starting to take shape and anticipated a great event. She thanked the
area businesses for their participation. She announced that the cost of
tickets would be $50 per couple or $25 per person, with more
information following soon. She encouraged everyone to buy tickets
and participate.
CLOSED SESSION
A. CONFERENCE WITH LEGAL COUNSEL -- EXISTING LITIGATION
(Subdivision (a) of Section 54956.9) Williams v. City of Lake Elsinore (4'
Appellate Case # E024487); Williams and Hassan v. City of Lake Elsinore
(4' Appellate District Case # E025201)
B. CONFERENCE WITH LEGAL COUNSEL-- EXISTING LITIGATION
(Subdivision (a) of Section 54956.9) Redevelopment Agency of the City of
Lake Elsinore vs. Sportsman's Lodge (4' Appellate District Case
#E024762/Riverside Superior Court Case #257164).
C. CONFERENCE WITH LEGAL COUNSEL -- EXISTING LITIGATION
PAGE TWENTY -SIX - CITY COUNCIL MINUTES - AUGUST 8, 2000
(Subdivision (a) of section 54956.9) California Bank & Trust v. City of
Lake Elsinore et al (Riverside Co. Superior Court Case #344190)
D. CONFERENCE WITH LEGAL COUNSEL - EXISTING
LITIGATION (Subdivision (a) of Government Code Section
54956.9) City of Lake Elsinore vs. All Persons Interested et al, Riverside
Local Agency Formation Commission (CASE #RIC 311942) (Cleveland
Ridge).
THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING WAS ADJOURNED TO CLOSED
SESSION AT 10:06 P.M. FOR DISCUSSION OF THE ABOVE LISTED
ITEMS A, B AND C.
THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING RECONVENED AT 11:38 P.M., WITH
NO REPORTABLE ACTION.
ADJOURNMENT
MOVED BY PAPE, SECONDED BY METZE AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO ADJOURN THE REGULAR CITY COUNCIL
MEETING AT 11:39 P.M.
PAMELA BRIT4LEYq MAYA
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
ATTEST:
VICKI SA , CMC, CITY CLERK
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
MINUTES
CITY COUNCIL STUDY SESSION
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
183 NORTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA
THURSDAY, AUGUST 17, 2000
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CALL TO ORDER
Mayor Brinley called the City Council Study Session to order at 2:00 p.m.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
Mayor Brinley led the Pledge of Allegiance.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: KELLEY, PAPE,
SCHIFFNER,
BRINLEY
ABSENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: METZE
DISCUSSION
1. Riverside County Integrated Plan — Multi - Species Habitat
Conservation Plan. (F:140.1)
Councilwoman Brinley called upon the person who requested to
speak.
Mary Venerable, 29400 3rd Street, noted she was present to hear more
about the plan; and explained she had heard Councilman Pape identify
problems with ideas of information as conveyed at the presentation at
a Council Meeting. She expressed her concerns regarding the
Riverside County Integrated General Plan, which she felt did not give
clear direction for preservation and development. She stated that she
had a number of questions, however she would wait until the end of
the presentation to ask her questions.
Community Development Director Brady stated that at the July 24,
2000, City Council Meeting there was a brief presentation regarding
the Riverside County Integrated Plan. He indicated that it addressed
three issues being the update of the General Plan; Transportation; and
the Multi- Species Habitat Conservation Plan. He noted that at the
July 24th Meeting the City Council expressed interest in having a
Study Session to review the Plan, particularly the Multi- Species
Habitat Conservation Plan. He explained that the consultants
preparing the Plan were present to provide the information. He
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introduced Al Bell from The Planning Center. He further explained
that Mr. Bell's company was handling the portion of the General Plan
Update which addresses Land Use. He indicated that Mr. Bell would
present his portion of the Plan and then introduce the other consultants
to address the other topics.
Mr. Bell, The Planning Center, indicated that his company is
responsible for the General Plan, and introduced Jim Henderson,
Spear Group Civil, Inc., Managing Consultant over the entire
Integrated Plan; Steve Smith, Transcorp, consultant for the
Transportation portion of the plan; June Collins, Dudek, consultant for
the Multi- Species Habitat Conservation Plan; and Melody Smith,
Planning Center, consultant for Land Planning. Mr. Bell stated that
the project has been in progress for over a year and was led by an
extensive program of public surveys and outreach meetings
throughout the County. He explained that it led to the creation of an
extensive vision statement that provided detail for the General Plan
advisory committee that provided guidelines the consultants were
working from. He noted that a set of principles was provided to the
consultants for guidelines for the Land Use portion of the plan. He
explained that in the presentation of July 24th, three alternatives were
presented to Council and stressed that the Integrated Plan was work in
progress and would continue to change. He presented Alternative
three, which the consultant team and County staff felt was most
responsive to the vision guidance that was established earlier in the
program. He presented an overview of the Land Use for the
unincorporated area of the County that would result in the delineation
of the policy regarding the potential Land Uses in all the
unincorporated areas of the County.
Mayor Pro Tem Pape asked if the Land Uses presented on the map
would be compatible with the zoning, which is already in place. Mr.
Bell clarified that did not occur in all cases, and explained that in
some situations there might be some Land Use designations with
which the existing zoning would not be consistent; and in due course
the existing zoning would have to be changed to comply with the
General Plan. He explained that it was the intent to avoid those
situations as much as possible. Mayor Pro Tern Pape asked if there
were any inconsistencies in the City of Lake Elsinore. Mr. Bell
indicated that this was for the unincorporated area only and explained
that the County Board of Supervisors has no authority regarding Land
Use within City Limit boundaries. He gave an overview of the
process, which was used to compare the County and various cities'
General Plans to ascertain the compatibility of Land Use. He
addressed the Sphere of Influence of the various cities and then
attempted to reflect a similar Land Use. He explained that if cities
have proposed Land Uses for their Sphere of Influences in their
General Plans, which the City of Lake Elsinore has done, then they
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have tried to reflect that in the County's Land Use Plan. He noted that
in some situations there could be a difference and it would have to be
worked out with the jurisdictions. Mayor Pro Tem Pape stated that
at the July 24th presentation a different designation was shown on the
City's open space; Specific Plans; and four major development
projects and asked if that was not the case now. Mr. Bell stated they
would present how the Riverside County Multi- Species Habitat
Conservation Plan affects the County and the cities. He explained
what they were working with proposed uses and if adopted they
would apply to the land; and the Multi - Species Habitat Conservation
Plan (MSHCP) delineation was an overlay to the Land Use. He noted
that Ms. Collins would explain how the overlay works and explained
that it does not change the Land Use designation.
Mayor Brinley asked if before the County were to adopt the presented
plan, would they make sure that the City's Land Uses were
compatible through a review process. Mr. Bell stated that the
consultants are working with the City's staff to.resolve the Land Use
incompatibility issues if there were any. He explained that the whole
process would provide ample opportunity for the staff, consultants,
and County Planning Commission Board to address the issues if the
City feels that the County has not adjusted the Land Use to be
compatible. He further explained that there would be hearings prior to
adoption of the Plan, which would take place throughout the next
year. He noted that prior to the hearing stage, they hoped to have all
the inconsistencies worked out, or if they are not then have them
clearly identified so the affected city or property owner would know
that they exist. He noted the purpose of the presentation was to
inform Council what was occurring and give Council the opportunity
to influence the Plan. He clarified that what the exhibit presents is
the unincorporated area only for intended uses and appropriate zoning.
Mr. Bell addressed the circulation system and noted that there were
two levels of Transportation, Major Transportation corridors; and the
Circulation Element of the County's General Plan. He noted that this
includes integration with adjacent cities' circulation plans for
continuity in the system. He stated that adjustments could be made in
two ways, modification of the circulation system; or modification of
the Land Uses. He noted that this would vary throughout the County.
Mr. Smith of Transcorp, clarified the exhibit of the Circulation
Element. Mr. Bell summarized that the General Plan encompasses the
entire Riverside County unincorporated area and does not involve any
of the existing cities, however does involve the Communities of
Interest. He explained that the Transportation Corridor and the
Habitat Conservation portions of the project were limited to Western
Riverside County and did not include the rest of the County. He
explained that one of the purposes of the Study Session was to
promote understanding regarding the MSHCP and what impact it has
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on the incorporated and unincorporated areas of the City of Lake
Elsinore.
Ms. Collins representing Dudek, consultant for the Multi- Species
Habitat Conservation Plan ( MSHCP), explained that the MSHCP was
an integral component of the County's RCIP process. She noted the
14 cities that were involved in a Planning Agreement for Habitat
Conservation between the local entities and the Wildlife Agencies to
cooperatively work together to prepare a Multi- Species Habitat
Conservation Plan. She explained that it would list the requirements
of both the Federal Endangered Species Act and the State of
California Natural Communities Conservation Planning Act, as well
as the State Endangered Species Act. Ms. Collins noted that the
Agreement would provide a more streamlined way to deal with the
regulatory constraints associated with the 30 listed species and
proposed species in Western Riverside County and in the complete
County Plan they are trying to address up to 164 species which
includes the 30 listed and proposed species, as well as other sensitive
species that might have the potential to be listed in the future. She
explained the idea behind the plan was to streamline both public and
private projects that might be faced with regulatory constraints
associated with the 164 species. She indicated that what her team
from Dudek started with a year ago, was the Go/No Go proposal
which was reviewed by the MSHCP committee. She explained that
the proposal described in narrative terms how many acres and where
in Western Riverside County it might be necessary to develop,
preserve, or conserve up to 164 species and possibly get regulatory
coverage. She stated that there was a web site that presented the maps
of species and vegetation of Western Riverside County and gave an
overview of the process to provide conservation areas.
Mayor Pro Tem Pape asked if a property owner had their land burned,
if they would be allowed to keep the area clear since it is no longer a
habitat. Ms. Collins stated that it would be up to the local jurisdiction
to determine whether the owner would be allowed to brush and clear.
Mayor Pro Tem Pape asked if the City was the local jurisdiction. Ms.
Collins stated that it would be the local jurisdiction if it was the
agency that regulated the brushing and clearing on specific property;
and if that particular action was consistent with the local jurisdiction's
regulations, then the property owner could do that. She indicated that
it would depend on the level of burning and whether the property was
occupied or not. She further indicated that if the property was
occupied by a listed species, the Federal Endangered Species Act
would permit enforcement of that take through brushing and clearing
or through destruction of that habitat, however there are provisions
that do permit brushing and clearing. Mayor Pro Tem Pape asked if
there was a fire and the habitat no longer existed, it the property
owner could then maintain the land as non - habitat area. Ms. Collins
stated that it varies from jurisdiction to jurisdiction.
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Councilman Schiffner asked for clarification of "local jurisdiction".
Ms. Collins stated that it was the City. She clarified that the Fish and
Wildlife does not regulate brushing and clearing.
Ms. Collins noted the areas in Western Riverside County, which were
desirable for conservation. She noted that in September 1999, the
MSHCP Committee approved the Go/No Go proposal for the
consultant to continue the study. Councilwoman Kelley asked how
many acres were included in the study. Ms. Collins stated it consisted
of from 380,000 to 510,000 acres within the 1.2 Million -acre MSHCP
Study area. She noted that of the 380,000 to 510,000 acres, 340,000
acres were already in existing publicly owned land. She indicated that
included National and State Forest lands. She noted the proposal also
described that there might be a range of between 40,000 and 120,000
acres within the 1.2 Million -acre study area of existing private land
that might be considered for additional conservation in order to cover
up to 164 species. Councilwoman Kelley asked how much of that
land area was in the City of Lake Elsinore. Ms. Collins stated that she
did not have that information available, however she did have it in her
office and would be glad to provide it to Councilwoman Kelley.
Councilman Schiffner stated that there were several areas in Lake
Elsinore that were in conflict and he suspected that those would be the
ultimate areas that would be involved. He asked for those specific
areas, what the species were that caused those areas to be considered
and what particular criteria caused those areas to be considered
habitat. He noted that information would give the Council the
opportunity to object or concur with the proposal. Ms. Collins stated
she could provide information in the context of how far they have
gone to date and the future steps that will be taken as more
refinements are made. She stated that the four specific areas of
concern in the City of Lake Elsinore, were Ramsgate Specific Plan
area; North Peak Specific Plan area; Alberhill Specific Plan area; and
the Liberty Specific Plan area. She indicated they had been identified
as being lands desirable for conservation areas. She indicated that in
the early stages of the MSHCP it was recognized that there were
conflicts between approved development plans and areas that were
identified as desirable for conservation. She noted that those conflicts
would need to be worked out or considered through the course of the
MSHCP planning process. Councilwoman Kelley asked what plan
they had to address the conflicts. Ms. Collins noted a map that lists
the species, which are desirable for conservation. She provided a map
providing conservation analysis units. Councilwoman Kelley noted
the Alberhill and Northpeak areas and asked if they were a result of
the studies done by Dudek or the results of the studies done by the
developer when they filed the plans to develop. Ms. Collins stated
that the database was assembled by UCR, and for each dot on the map
there was a data source. Councilwoman Kelley asked if this was done
PAGE SIX — STUDY SESSION — AUGUST 17, 2000
by UCR or if it was information provided by the developer. Ms.
Collins stated that it was a wide mix and gave an overview of the
information and how it was gathered. Councilwoman Kelley stated
that the information could then be taken back to the developer that
submitted plans and could affect the development. Ms. Collins stated
that the study also included information regarding vegetation, slopes,
geological, and wetland information. Councilwoman Kelley stressed
that a lot of the information was generated by the developers and not
by independent studies. Ms. Collins concurred. Mayor Pro Tem Pape
stated that different areas were identified, however looking at the fine
print it needed back -up data to be understandable. Ms. Collins stated
that all of the information was on the web site and was available to the
public. She explained that the web site included a description of the
different areas of concern and what would be desirable for
conservation for the 164 species. Mayor Pro Tem Pape stated the
necessity of having the information available if the exhibits that were
presented were to be understood. He noted that it appeared that a
majority of the land within the City boundaries was in some kind of
area. She gave an overview of the exhibit maps and explained the
purpose of the different boundaries. Mayor Pro Tem Pape stated that
this was certainly a red flag and those persons that own property in the
areas indicated, have seen a substantial devaluation of their property if
the plan becomes final. He noted that with so much of the area within
the City noted as desirable for conservation, it would be impossible to
develop within the City. Ms. Collins stated that the exhibits were just
like any other planning map, and offer alternatives, which are
necessary to try and come up with solutions for a Multi- Species
Habitat Conservation Plan.
Mayor Brinley asked about the S3K designation. Ms. Collins stated
that it was primarily the Alberhill, Sedco to Wildomar Hills, and
South Lake Elsinore area, which were the primary three areas of
conservation.
Councilman Schiffner asked if Ms. Collins would be preparing a
similar map, which would be for the protection of half or two thirds of
the areas proposed. Ms. Collins indicated that would be forthcoming.
Mayor Pro Tem Pape asked if Ms. Collins would provide the entire
Council maps with the underlying documentation. Ms. Collins stated
that all the information was on the web site, and that all the
information had been provided to the City in the past through
WRCOG.
Councilwoman Kelley asked if Ms. Collins had the same map
available that was presented at the July 24th City Council Meeting.
Ms. Collins stated that the same map was on the wall without the zone
colors.
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Mayor Pro Tern Pape noted the high concentration of listed animals
along Alberhill and Sedco Hills next to the freeway, and questioned
the high emphasis next to a freeway. Ms. Collins stated that it was a
combination of species, occurrence, habitat and geographic location.
She explained that all of the factors came together in the
Sedco /Wildomar and Alberhill areas and indicated that the location
adjacent to the freeway, while it somewhat reduces the desirability for
conservation, had enough other positive attributes to outweigh the
negatives. Mayor Pro Tem Pape clarified that it was important to
preserve the land in its natural habitat right next to a freeway. Ms.
Collins stated that in some configurations, it is. She gave an overview
of the decision making process, and indicated that this program was
an information exchange process to help the stakeholders decide what
was in the best interests of their particular constituency with respect to
getting regulatory coverage for the 164 species or not.
Councilmember Schiffner suggested if the 164 species were numbered
in their order of preference and the top third of them were eliminated,
there could be a great deal of area cleared of conservation. He
explained that there was every possibility that all of the 164 species
would not be protected; and suggested that was why it was important
to know exactly what species were causing a conflict and how they
should be addressed. Ms. Collins concurred.
Mayor Brinley stated that there were several members of the audience
that wished to ask questions; and asked if Ms. Collins wished to finish
her presentation, if she wished to answer questions at this time.
A member of the audience asked how long Ms. Collins and the other
members of the team have had to prepare for this meeting and asked
why they did not have the information available for review.
Ms. Collins stated that she was told only 10 minutes earlier that the
MSHCP was the focus of this meeting. Councilwoman Kelley stated
that the focus of this meeting was discussed on July 24th. Mayor
Brinley stated that the team was directed at the Council Meeting to
prepare for this Study Session.
There was general discussion regarding the information provided and
the people presenting the program not being prepared.
Community Development Director Brady noted that the information
being presented by Ms. Collins was not final information, but rather
the process that they have utilized to get to the current information
level. He noted that the purpose of the Study Session was to allow the
public to know what was happening with the plan, specifically the
MSHCP.
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Mayor Pro Tern Pape stated that it was Council's intention to express
their concerns.
Councilwoman Kelley stated she would like to see the map that was
presented at the July 24th City Council Meeting from the overhead
projector, that gave the Land Use designations with an overlay of the
proposed habitat over the top of the Land Use Map. She suggested
that this would give Council the opportunity to see the true status.
She stated that the maps presented to Council appear to show that the
City is giving up the bulk of its acreage, and she wanted to know what
the acreage was within the City Limits, versus the acreage in the
unincorporated area. Mayor Pro Tem Pape stated that it appeared that
the City was putting up more than its fair share. He stated that it was
a calculation that was fairly simple; and noted that it was a total of
how much acreage was in the Specific Plans and how much acreage
that was to be set aside, as well as how much acreage was in the
unincorporated area. He indicated that through that method the
Council could get a clear picture of what percentage of the City would
be taken up by conservation. Mayor Brinley noted that Councilman
Schiffner explained that the plan being presented was just a rough
draft that would be changed as the study progresses.
Mr. Fahmy questioned the plan and questioned the time line.
Mayor Brinley stated that the study will be progressing and it should
still be quite some time before the final plan is fully developed. She
noted that the process would take another eighteen months to two
years.
Mary Venerable expressed her concern with a study that goes on for
eighteen months without public input because it becomes locked in
concrete. She further stated a concern regarding the changes, which
involve the unincorporated area and not the City. She asked why the
City was involved if this plan was primarily for the unincorporated
area. She asked why the meetings were not in Riverside and
questioned who the stakeholders were.
Mayor Brinley stated that the stakeholders are the City of Lake
Elsinore, City of Canyon Lake, City of Murrieta, and City of
Temecula. She noted that the County was trying to put their plan
together and attempting to make it coincide with the City's General
Plan. She further explained this would also give the City the
opportunity to remove some of the desired habitat to allow for
development.
Councilman Schiffner stated that what was for the unincorporated
area was the General Plan and didn't have anything to do with the
City, however the habitat plan does impact the City and that was why
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the Council was holding the Study Session. He stated that the City
had no problem with the County's Integrated Plan Land Use and
Traffic Circulation, however where the City did have a problem was
with the habitat, and that issue covers the entire Western Riverside
County area.
Ms. Venerable stated that she felt this was placing a great burden on
the City by having no clarification.
Mayor Brinley stated that the Council would have liked better
information.
Richard Lashbrook , County of Riverside Integrated Plan Project
Manager, gave an overview of the underlying basis for doing a Multi -
Species Plan. He stated that the decision to be answered was if the
County of Riverside and all the stakeholders should continue to fight
the Endangered Species Act on a one by one basis, or develop a plan
that would address a broad range of species and give a long term
stability and protection from the Endangered Species Act. He further
stated that was the impetus that drove the County to start the presented
project and to propose doing a Multi- Species Habitat Conservation
Plan. He noted that in the end, each City and the County of Riverside
would have to make a decision whether to participate in the plan. He
stated that the City of Lake Elsinore could make the decision not to
participate. He asked that the City consider the impacts of not having
a long -term plan and noted that large areas in Lake Elsinore are
occupied by listed endangered species. He indicated there was
nothing anyone could do about that, and it means that the property
owner will have to deal with the Endangered Species Act. He stated
that they are a long way from the final answer, however he felt that it
was important to keep in mind that it is a decision that the City will
have to make and it is a trade off. He noted that there are some
negatives in doing a Multi- Species Habitat Conservation Plan and he
hopes and believes that in the long run there will be significant
advantages that outweigh those negatives.
A member of the audience noted the Ramsgate site and stated that it
was overrun with motorcyclists and the whole area was affected. She
stated that now the citizens are told that there is an endangered species
in the area and she asked how that could be possible.
Buddy Cox commented on Mr. Lashbrook's statements. He noted
that in San Diego the power company had a cooling tower and the
environmentalists suggested that there was an endangered species in
the lagoon next to the plant. The power company then hired their own
specialists and found that there was no endangered species. He stated
that he would want proof before he would believe there were really
any endangered species in a designated area.
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Mayor Brinley stated that in response to Mr. Cox's concern, what
Mr.Lashbook explained was that it was a Federal Mandate that the
City must comply with. She explained that the City had a choice and
that was the City could be a part of the plan or do something on its
own. She agreed with Mr. Cox that she wished that the Council had
more data. She noted that what Council was trying to do was gain
more information or what the timelines were; and the goals of the
City.
Councilwoman Kelley stated that there was a third choice and that
was the City could go with the plan, but not protect all 164 species.
Dan Voit, D.R. Horton Company, stated that his company was
looking to invest in several parcels in the City of Lake Elsinore. He
noted that although there was considerable debate regarding the plan,
there were still some question as to if California Department of Fish
and game or the Wildlife Services would ultimately agree to whatever
plan was being proposed. He stated that he supports the concept,
however questioned if for the developers in the community, it was fair
to assume that it is status quo until the plan is in place. He noted that
the developers would have to deal with Fish and Game and Wildlife
Services on their own, but are still able to continue forward with their
developments. Mayor Brinley stated that they were and encouraged
them to do so.
Ed Fitzpatrick, Eastbridge Partners, stated that they own Ramsgate
and have done extensive biological surveys on Ramsgate for a number
of years. He noted that the eastern portion of the project currently has
50 to 70 nesting pairs of Gnatcatchers. He noted the high
concentration of Gnatcatchers and questioned their endangerment. He
stated that the project also has Least Bells Vireos as well as a pair of
Cooper's Hawks. He further stated that they have four Vesting
Tentative Maps on the property and noted that when they request
recordation of Final Maps; the City approves; they pull grading
permits; and start to grade, then get stopped cold by the Feds. Mr.
Fitzpatrick stated that it was not because of the City, but rather the
Federal regulatory agencies. He noted that they have other issues that
they were dealing with as well, including the Regional Water Quality
Control Board. He stated that the City could agree that they have a
great plan, however the Federal Agencies will stop them cold. He
indicated that he was looking at the Integrated Plan as a means that all
the developers could jump on the bandwagon and solve the issues. He
noted that it was his understanding that the action proposed was to set
up a situation whereby the regulatory agencies buy -off on a plan and
the negotiations are done and the developer knows where they are
going. He explained that the developer has to deal with the Plan, even
through the property is within the City; and stated that his company
was very interested in the MSHCP because he sees it as a way to deal
with the issues.
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Mr. Fahmy,, stated that since his company owns Alberhill he wishes to
know exactly what the plan will be. He indicated that they have four
years into trying to develop the property and it has been earmarked as
a conservation area. Mayor Brinley stated that the plan was
information and it was the City's option as to what would be done.
Ms. Venerable asked if it was a requirement by law that the studies be
conducted. Mr. Lashbrook stated it was not. Ms. Venerable asked if
it was not a requirement this was being presented. She asked if the
City decides to accept or reject the plan what the long -term impacts
would be. She asked what the City will suffer if it does not approve
the proposed General Plan.
Ms. Collins concurred that it was the City's option whether they
wished to participate or not. She explained that the long term impacts
are dealing with the constraints of the Endangered Species Act on a
project by project basis or in an integrated manner. She stated that as
the process moves forward, each city would be able to decide what is
in their best interests.
Donald Nordine stated that it was his understanding there would be
purchases of land and then it would be banked and traded. He further
stated it was his understanding that if he wished to develop his forty
acres of land, he could buy a different forty acres of land to trade off
for his rights to develop. He asked if that was correct.
Ms. Collins stated that what Mr. Nordine addressed was one of the
potential implementation techniques being considered which was the
Habitat Transaction Method. She noted that was just one of a wide
variety of implementation techniques being considered which merits a
lot more study. She stated they were in an information exchange
process that would determine all the alternatives and options.
Mayor Pro Tern Pape stated there seemed to be a high concentration
of animals at Lake Street and the I -15 Freeway, as well as a high
concentration at Railroad Canyon Road and the I -15 Freeway. He
noted there was a very low concentration of animals in the Santa Rosa
Plateau, which has been set aside for Habitat. He asked if it was
possible to trap the endangered species and relocate them to the
established habitat. Ms. Collins stated that was a consideration. She
noted that part of the study was considering an Adaptive Management
Program, however the program would not work for all species.
Mayor Pro Tern Pape noted that if the land was purchased for habitat
he hoped it was suitable.
Councilwoman Kelley stated she was dismayed that there was not
more information and at least the same information presented at July
24th Council Meeting. She stated she thought it was perfectly clear
that the Study Session was going to
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address the Multi- Species Habitat and the Council would need a lot of
information. She noted that at the Council Meeting it was obvious
that the Council was very upset about the Habitat Map and a Study
Session was needed on that issue. She expressed her dismay at the
lack of private property owners' rights. She indicated she could not
understand that with the stroke of a pen, the entire City can be sucked
up and declared a Habitat, when some people have spent millions of
dollars getting to where they are in their process of development; and
by being in the process of development have triggered themselves
being on the Map and the whole process comes back to bite. She
stated it seemed to be condemnation of private property since they are
told that they can't develop. She asked what financial remedies would
be given to the property owners. Mayor Brinley stated that there was
no fairness or equity and this issue should be taken up at the Federal
level. She noted in her opinion the Federal Government should have
to address the issue in dollars and cents. Councilwoman Kelley noted
that there was a little leeway from the 30 species to 164 species,
however she felt pinched because there was not much room to work.
She noted the lack of equity in the way the maps and charts are done.
She stated that it was a process that must be followed closely and she
would like to hear more about what the City can do to be included in
the process.
Councilman Schiffner stated that in defense of the County and the
Project, it was a Federally Mandated issue and had established species
that they require be protected. He explained that what the County was
trying to do was put together a package that the Federal Agency
would buy. He further explained that the 164 species were projected
to be all the species that the Federal Agency would ever want to
protect, however it does not mean that all of the 164 species would be
included. He noted that the County was trying to develop a package
that the Federal Agency would accept so that the cities could go
forward with the development of the property under specific
guidelines. Councilman Schiffner stated without the Plan, the
developer would have to deal directly with the Federal Agency and
fight every inch of the way. He noted that under the plan there was no
piece of property that was not developable, however it does mean that
if it were a higher habitat area it would take more mitigation. He
stated that all the issues are still under consideration. He stated that he
was not in favor of the Endangered Species Act and felt that it was a
rape of the people by the Federal Government, however what was
trying to be accomplished was to live with what the Government has
mandated and still develop the property.
Mayor Brinley commented that once the County and cities get through
this process, one of the things that needs to be stressed is equity. She
stated that there must be fair equity and the Federal Government
needs to understand that they are dealing with private property
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owners. She noted that she understands that the County is just trying
to bring all the cities into one unit that would allow future
development. She concurred with Councilwoman Kelley regarding
the amount of available information to promote better understanding
of the Plan. She suggested that staff and the County coordinate
another meeting to present a more comprehensive presentation of the
Multi- Species Habitat. She stressed that the Plan was the product of a
Federal Mandate to assist the developers in the future development or
sale of their property. She noted that the key to this problem was
money and being sure that the Federal Government was fair to the
private property owner.
Community Development Director Brady stated that staff has met
with the consultants and it was the goal of staff to be sure that impact
to the City was not greater than to other cities and id not create an
unfair burden. He explained that staff had provided information to the
consultants in terms of existing openspace the City currently has and
this could possibly change some of the configurations, however it was
still the private property owners who were impacted.
Mayor Brinley suggested a Study Session with the County and current
developers to better address the concerns. She stated that Council
needs to better understand the impact or the City.
ADJOURNMENT
The City Council Study Session was adjourned at 3:35 p.m.
CITY OF
ATTEST:
SA, CIT CLERK, CMC
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
u_ If' i-`l l
CITY COUNCIL/REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY STUDY SESSION
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
130 SOUTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA
TUESDAY, AUGUST S, 2000
CALL TO ORDER
The City Council Study Session was called to order by Mayor Brinley at 4:00 p.m.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: KELLEY, SCHIFFNER,
BRINLEY
ABSENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: METZE, PAPE
Also present were: City Manager Watenpaugh, Assistant City Manager Best, City
Attorney Leibold, Community Development Director Brady,
Information/Communications Director Dennis and City Clerk/Human Resources
Director Kasad.
DISCUSSION
a. Agenda Review. (FA4.3)
Presentations
City Manager Watenpaugh noted that the normal procedure is to notice a
public hearing two weeks before the hearing, and noted that the Outlet Center
Public Hearing would be in two weeks, based on their willingness to proceed
at that time.
Mayor Brinley inquired if former Planning Commissioner Sands would be
present for recognition. City Clerk Kasad indicated that he would not be
present. Mayor Brinley indicated that she would offer thanks, even in his
absence and have his plaque delivered to him.
Mayor Brinley noted that Jeanie Corral would be present to discuss the Unity
in the Community parade.
Mayor Brinley requested details on the Economic Development Corporation
award. City Manager Watenpaugh explained that Ken Seumalo, Rich Hess,
Robin Chipman and Duane Morita played on the City team against the cities
of Murrieta and Temecula and the County of Riverside; and won the
tournament. City Manager Watenpaugh noted that Ken Seumalo would be
leaving the City for a better opportunity. Mayor Brinley indicated she was
sorry to receive this information and requested that his personnel file reflect
the City's appreciation of his efforts.
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Consent Calendar
City Manager Watenpaugh noted that there might be someone from the
community present to discuss the plaque for the fire station; and noted a
conversation with a Code Enforcement Officer over the public. Mayor
Brinley indicated that the fire station had already been named and the plaque
information determined. She stressed that this had been in the works for three
or four months, so she would recommend listening and moving on.
Councilwoman Kelley questioned Item #3 regarding the Restroom
Renovation Contract for the Community Center. Councilman Schiffner noted
the wide spread of prices. Councilwoman Kelley noted that the new acoustic
walls had been done and inquired if it was an improvement. City Manager
Watenpaugh confirmed that it was an improvement. Councilwoman Kelley
questioned the source of the grant funds. City Manager Watenpaugh
indicated that they were Community Development Block Grant Funds.
Councilwoman Kelley inquired if the green awnings were being replaced.
Staff confirmed.
Mayor Brinley questioned Item # 5 regarding Needle Cricothyroidotomy.
City Manager Watenpaugh explained the procedure. Councilwoman Kelley
questioned why the procedure was not being done. Councilman Schiffner
noted that the County does not permit the procedure. City Manager
Watenpaugh clarified that Riverside County is not the only area to not allow
the procedures; and noted that EMS personnel in San Diego County are not
allowed to use it either. He further clarified that Riverside County has not
allowed the procedure to date, but indicated that it was possible to ask them to
consider it as an option. He stressed that the County has the authority to
make that decision. Councilman Schiffner suggested that this item be pulled
for explanations. Mayor Brinley stressed that it was just offering another
alternative treatment.
Councilwoman Brinley stressed that this was an alternative procedure.
Councilwoman Kelley noted that this request was prompted by a fatality in
Temecula. City Manager Watenpaugh clarified that he was not certain this
would have saved the person.
Mayor Brinley questioned Item #6. City Manager Watenpaugh indicated that
it was ratification of the funding for the Senior Center, which has already
been approved, but now requires ratification.
Mayor Brinley indicated that she would like to pull Item #8 for an update and
noted a conversation over the weekend with a Wildomar resident, who
suggested that the City was holding up the project. She indicated that she
would like to emphasize the City's willingness to cooperate. City Attorney
Leibold indicated that, as she remembered, the County's time frame was for
the project to start the end of September; and indicated that she believed that
the properties would be acquired in time to prevent delays in the County
plans. Councilman Schiffner suggested that any opportunity to explain what
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was happening on the project would be worthwhile. Councilwoman Kelley
noted that this issue was mentioned in an article on Saturday. Councilman
Schiffner indicated that he met with Mr. Bowen from the top of the hill and
he had questions about a variety of issues, including his understanding of the
palm tree removal issue. He noted that much misunderstanding was coming
from the articles in the newspapers. Mayor Brinley indicated that she would
pull items 5 and 8, to allow City Manager Watenpaugh and City Attorney
Leibold address and clarify them.
Mayor Brinley indicated that she felt there would be significant discussion of
Item #31 regarding Animal Control Services. She expressed particular
concern with determining the requirement for canvassing. City Attorney
Leibold indicated that she was unfamiliar with such a mandate; and
commented that she wished that this information had been shared in advance
of the meeting. She expressed hopes that she could clarify the issue before
the meeting. City Manager Watenpaugh indicated that staff had requested
that they bring the legal documentation on this issue.
Councilman Schiffner noted the cost analysis which shows that the City
receives more services than it pays for. He suggested that it might be
appropriate to approve the increase in funding, but require that they come
back next year with better documentation.
Mayor Brinley indicated that she would like to see them go to a fiscal year
system, so the mid -year budget review could address increased funding
needs; and the Council could plan ahead better without going into the
reserves. , She expressed concern with the mileage factors for a new van and
noted that the City Manager's car far exceeds that mileage factor.
Councilman Schiffner stressed that the costs are exceeding what the City
pays; and noted that he felt the City intended to pay its fair share, but wanted
to be assured of what was occurring. Mayor Brinley stressed the need for a
fiscal year budget. City Manager Watenpaugh added that one of the things
that would be helpful and appropriate based on the size of the agency would
be an annual certified audit.
Mayor Brinley indicated that she had no problem with the $10,000 increase
for everything they provide, but they are becoming a major operation in the
valley. She stressed the importance of getting a good idea of what each city
was paying. There was general discussion of funding issues. City Manager
Watenpaugh noted the proposed actions, but suggested that Council could
propose another motion as well.
Mayor Brinley noted that she spoke with a woman who had an indoor cat and
was approached at her door; and noted that this was to occur in other cities as
well, but the Councils did not agree. Councilman Schiffner suggested that it
might be appropriate to wait for a bigger objection before taking action. He
indicated that he supported licensing as it appears to save the lives of pets.
Councilwoman Kelley suggested not revisiting this issue. Mayor Brinley
indicated that she would not have an issue with it, except that it was pushed
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harder in the City of Lake Elsinore, than in other cities. Councilman
Schiffner questioned the need to open that issue at the Council meeting. City
Manager Watenpaugh clarified that the Council would need to make a motion
to encompass everything they want done. Councilman Schiffner suggested
that if the issue of cat licensing comes up, it should be directed to a study
session to go through it again.
Councilwoman Kelley indicated that she didn't feel that there was a direction
on cat licensing at this time. She further indicated that she didn't mind the
$10,000, but would like to look at the canvassing issue. Mayor Brinley
stressed the need for an official audit, and indicated that she does not like
going back into the reserves.
Councilwoman Kelley suggested that cat licensing was effective.
Councilman Schiffner indicated that unless a lot of people get up and make
heavy requests, the cat licensing issue should be left alone as much as
possible. City Manager Watenpaugh requested clarification that the Council
was looking at the contract as it is proposed, the $10,000 increase and a
review of the canvassing process. Councilman Schiffner concurred and
suggested revisiting the agreement next year based on new accounting
procedures and a certified audit.
City Manager Watenpaugh requested clarification on the canvassing issue.
Councilman Schiffner indicated that he would like justification for this
process. Councilwoman Kelley indicated that she would prefer that they
didn't canvass. City Manager Watenpaugh suggested that canvassing could
be limited to seeing a stray dog in the field, and allowing them to check it out;
but not allow them to go door to door for canvassing. City Attorney Leibold
noted that they were charging the City personnel costs for canvassing as well.
Mayor Brinley noted that the City Attorney was not aware of the canvassing
requirements, and indicated that she would like that issue clarified. She
suggested that they might have been over zealous in pursuing this issue.
Councilman Schiffner stressed the need for justification, and suggested that
otherwise it might be a fund- raising issue. Mayor Brinley stressed that the law
had been requested and not yet received; and indicated at this time she could
not justify the canvassing. Councilman Schiffner indicated that his biggest
concern with canvassing was how it reflected on the overall costs; and
stressed the need for more information next year.
Mayor Brinley indicated that she did not have a problem with cat licensing at
this time, but stressed the need for an audit and budgetary information. City
Attorney Leibold clarified that there was an existing ordinance for cat
licensing, and any action would need to include direction for staff to bring
back appropriate documentation. City Manager Watenpaugh stressed that the
contract being discussed was with the Council and reiterated that the Council
had the authority to provide direction to staff.
Councilwoman Kelley inquired if cat licensing was a hot button for anyone
else on the Council. Councilman Schiffner indicated that he would like to
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hear more discussion of the benefits of cat licensing in order to address it; but
noted that those paying fees would not like it either way.
Mayor Brinley noted that Item #32 dealt with designating the voting delegate
and the flag carrier for the League Annual Conference.
Mayor Brinley indicated that she had discussed Item #33 with the City
Attorney and found that it was possible to appoint two Nuisance Abatement
Hearing Officers at the Council Meeting. She suggested George Rivera and
David Cheney, noting that they both applied for Planning Commission and
did very well, and are very interested in working with the City. Mayor
Brinley noted that the selection of three people would require a revision of the
Municipal Code. Councilwoman Kelley suggested appointment of Tim
Crawford as an alternate officer. Community Development Director Brady
clarified the Code, noting that it reads Planning Commissioners or other
persons as appointed by the City Manager. City Attorney Leibold indicated
that she would like to look at the Code prior to the meeting to be sure of the
requirements. Mayor Brinley questioned the ability to appoint an alternate.
City Manager Watenpaugh indicated that it was not included in the Code, but
indicated that there shouldn't be a problem for him to serve as an alternate.
Councilman Schiffner noted that it might be appropriate to consider changing
the Ordinance in some manner to allow for three representatives; and
suggested that the manner of appointment should be changed when possible.
Mayor Brinley inquired if this appointment was for a period of four years.
Community Development Director Brady indicated that there was no set
term. Mayor Brinley suggested a two year service period. Councilman
Schiffner suggested that the term could be included when the ordinance is
revised. Mayor Brinley suggested that the term be set at two years, with a
review prior to continuing for additional time. City Attorney Leibold
indicated that she would review this issue further and advise the Council of
any problems prior to the Council meeting.
Mayor Brinley indicated that Item #34 regarding the Statement of
Cooperation with EVMWD was a great door of opportunity to build a bridge.
Councilman Schiffner noted that upon review of the proposed statement,
there should be nothing to offend anyone. City Manager Watenpaugh noted,
that staff and Council had reviewed the document and the press was provided
a copy earlier today, due to the sensitivity of issues with EVMWD. He noted
that EVMWD would be considering the same statement on August 9'.
Mayor Brinley noted that Item #35 regarding the towing ordinance was
proposed for continuance for resolution of outstanding issues. Councilman
Schiffner questioned the problems with the ordinance. City Manager
Watenpaugh indicated that staff went back and met with the towing
companies and they had an issue with the franchise fee. He further indicated
that they wanted to see a complete franchise agreement, which had now been
prepared, but another meeting was pending. City Attorney Leibold indicated
that the documents had been prepared and reviewed, but Chief Walsh was
trying to assure that everyone had a chance to comment. She indicated that it
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would come back to Council as soon as possible.
Committee Reports
Councilwoman Kelley noted that she had been attending the Chamber
meetings and could comment on their activities.
Councilwoman Kelley indicated that she was not aware of the Joint Powers
Insurance Authority meetings. Staff clarified that they are quarterly and
Administrative Services Director Boone had been attending on behalf of the
Council.
Councilman Schiffner requested that Assistant City Manager Best comment
on the Economic Development Corporation. Assistant City Manager Best
indicated that she did receive their annual report and could provide an update.
Mayor Brinley noted that the next Crime free multi- housing seminar was
scheduled for Thursday, August 10'i'; and nine property managers were pre-
registered.
Councilwoman Kelley indicated that the Satisfy 2020 Meeting would be on
August 11'. Councilman Schiffner noted that he received a copy of the
agenda for' that meeting, but he was not on the distribution list.
Councilwoman Kelley noted that Community Development Director Brady
also attended these meetings.
Councilman Schiffner noted a meeting at WRCOG yesterday on the multi -
species issue. City Attorney Leibold noted some of the City Attorneys met
last week with County Counsel to address CEQA issues raised by John
McClendon. She advised that Murrieta, Temecula, the County and Lake
Elsinore were present at the meeting; and the legal consensus was that the
regional fee constitutes a project so the CEQA requirements will need to be
satisfied. Councilman Schiffner noted that WRCOG has a variety of
committees with a variety of meetings. Councilwoman Kelley noted that her
committee had not met in six months, but the technical committee had been
meeting regularly. Councilman Schiffner commented that it seemed a
number of groups were studying the Integrated Plan and Multi- species issues.
City Manager Watenpaugh concurred that the County, cities and WRCOG
were all addressing it.
Closed Session
City Manager Watenpaugh indicated that the Closed Session discussion this
evening would be quite long. City Attorney Leibold highlighted the items for
discussion; and noted that the Cleveland Ridge item would be postponed,
unless a ruling was received this afternoon.
Mayor Brinley thanked staff for their participation in the agenda review.
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ADJOURNMENT
The Study Session was adjourned at 4:46 p.m.
PAMELA B EY, MAYC
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
ATTEST:
VICKI KASAD, MC, CITY CLERK
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
I1/Ihl
CITY COUNCIL STUDY SESSION
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
130 SOUTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA
TUESDAY, AUGUST 22, 2000
CALL TO ORDER
The City Council Study Session was called to order by Mayor Brinley at 4:00 p.m.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: KELLEY, SCHIFFNER,
BRINLEY
ABSENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: METZE, PAPE
Also present were: City Manager Watenpaugh, Assistant City Manager Best,
City Attorney Leibold, Community Development Director Brady,
Information /Communications Manager Dennis, City Clerk/Human Resources
Director Kasad.
a. Aeenda Review
Mayor Brinley noted the addition of a Presentation to the agenda and advised
that Chuck Sacks from California Skier would be discussing the upcoming
2000 Flight Worlds Event.
Consent Calendar
Councilman Schiffner indicated that the Minutes on Page 5 of Item Lb.
regarding the contract amount with Animal Friends of the Valley should be
changed from $80,000 to $85,000; and noted the need for the same change on
Page 11.
Mayor Brinley questioned Item 94 regarding the Slurry Seal Program. City
Manager Watenpaugh indicated that this was for slurry sealing in the
Avenues. Mayor Brinley noted that the striping had not been completed on
Main Street, and indicated that the overspray was bad on this project. She
advised that she had been receiving complaints from the downtown
merchants, that the work looks sloppy. Councilman Schiffner noted that they
had used glass beads on the parking stalls and inquired if they would be used
in the stripes. City Manager Watenpaugh indicated that the stripes would
utilize thermaplastics.
Mayor Brinley questioned Item 96 regarding the LAFCO hearing on the Lusk
Annexation. City Manager Watenpaugh indicated that it was approved at
LAFCO with no problems and explained the approval process.
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Public Hearings
Mayor Brinley noted that Item #21 regarding the Outlet Center Specific Plan
includes a new sign program. Councilwoman Kelley indicated that after the
Study Session on this topic, she had no additional questions. Councilman
Schiffner concurred that this project involved a lot of signage, but he had no
problem with it. Councilwoman Kelley questioned the use of logos on the
signs on the Collier side of the center. Community Development Director
Brady clarified this signage. City Manager Watenpaugh addressed Item 13
on page 6 of 37 regarding the message sign; and noted that Councilman
Metze was concerned with having an agreement in place before the signs are
final. He indicated that a copy of the agreement for the 76 Station sign
board, had been forwarded to the Outlet Center for review; and noted that the
existing agreement requires that 15 minutes out of every hour be made
available to the City. He clarified that the sign would not be finalized until
the agreement is complete. Councilwoman Kelley inquired if staff was happy
with the requirements. Community Development Director Brady confirmed.
Councilman Schiffner inquired if there were concerns with the height of the
sign. Mr. Brady confirmed that Planning Commissioner Polk was concerned
with the height. Mayor Brinley inquired how tall the sign would be. Mr.
Brady indicated that it was 82' tall or about 64' above the ramp height.
Councilman Schiffner expressed concern for what the sign will look like. Mr.
Brady presented a diagram and noted the sign color may be varied slightly.
Mayor Brinley indicated that what she saw on the diagram was what she
wanted to see; and stressed that she would want to know the actual color.
Mayor Brinley inquired if there would be any roof mounted equipment. Mr.
Brady indicated there was no request to place roof mounted equipment. City
Manager Watenpaugh noted that Councilman Metze's comment would be
more important for future discussions when the agreement is considered.
Mayor Brinley thanked the Planning Commission for the detailed work and a
goodjob.
Councilwoman Kelley addressed Item #22 the Vesting Tentative Map for
Cottonwood Hills and inquired whether the planned open space was a park or
just landscaping. Community Development Director Brady explained that it
is landscaped slope areas which would be maintained by the Homeowners
Association. Councilwoman Kelley noted her concern that for 254 units
there appeared to be only a tot lot. City Manager Watenpaugh indicated that
the next tract will include a neighborhood park. Councilwoman Kelley
expressed concern for the ultimate number of parks to be included.
Community Development Director Brady clarified that this tract does not
have a park area, but the other tracts will have parks. Councilwoman Kelley
inquired when construction would begin on this tract. Mr. Brady indicated
that it would probably begin in early 2001. City Manager Watenpaugh noted
that they were already grading the site heavily. Councilman Schiffner
inquired if this tract would have the first houses. Mr. Brady indicated that
there were maps which had already been filed, including the 99 lots, which
have final approvals. Councilman Schiffner questioned the conditions and
noted the previously approved list. Mayor Brinley indicated that the project
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had been worked over pretty well by the Planning Commission and inquired
if there were any issues they specifically wanted the Council to address.
Councilwoman Kelley indicated that she likes the traffic zone and signal. Mr.
Brady clarified the placement of the stop sign until it is replaced by a traffic
signal when the 100' unit is occupied. Councilman Schiffner questioned
Condition #74. Mr. Brady clarified that the stop sign would be in place until
the 100' unit is occupied, but the other signal would go in with the
elementary school opening.
Mayor Brinley inquired how many cul -de -sacs were included in this map.
Mr. Brady indicated that there were eight cul -de -sacs. Mayor Brinley
questioned the reason for the cul -de -sacs. Mr. Brady indicated that they were
included due to the topography of the site and marketing issues.
Councilman Schiffner questioned the total number of units in this project.
Mr. Brady indicated that the specific plan included 4,275 units, however it
will ultimately be less than that, since each tract is coming through with a few
less lots than anticipated. Mayor Brinley inquired if there was any estate lots
proposed. Mr. Brady indicated that there were no estate lots proposed, but
suggested that the ultimate buildout will be more like 3,500 units.
Councilman Schiffner inquired at what point a fire station would be required.
City Manager Watenpaugh indicated that there was a stipulation that they
would have to pay for service as required by the Fire Department. Mr. Brady
indicated that something was required with the second phase of the
development. Councilman Schiffner inquired if the count was 2,000
residential units for a fire station. City Manager Watenpaugh indicated that
staff would be working with Pardee to address the requirements; and noted
that Fire Chief Seabert was trying to coordinate a meeting regarding a shared
station between Lake Elsinore and Canyon Lake. Mayor Brinley questioned
the Development Agreement fees for the Fire Department. City Manager
Watenpaugh confirmed that they would be required to pay Development
Agreement fees, they could be requested to provide additional fees as needed,
since it is already part of the Development Agreement.
Councilwoman Kelley addressed Item #23 regarding the Sign Code and
suggested that it was confusing. Mayor Brinley concurred that she had some
real issues with the proposed Ordinance. Councilwoman Kelley inquired
who would track the regulations. Mayor Brinley suggested that the 30 day
limitations were acceptable; and noted her understanding for the advertising,
but stressed the need for regulations. She noted that some banners have been
in place for over a year. Community Development Director Brady indicated
that permits had been previously pulled for the banners, but are generally out
of date. Mayor Brinley inquired how many permits were out of date. City
Manager Watenpaugh clarified that staff s intent was to propose a temporary
program, which would be more merchant friendly. He stressed that this
ordinance was to temporarily address balloons with a full revision of the sign
code to follow. Mayor Brinley indicated that she would like a joint meeting
with the Planning Commission, in about mid - October to discuss the banner
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issue. She noted that she had just been approached by the Casino to see if
the matter was being addressed. City Manager Watenpaugh reiterated that
this was proposed as a temporary measure, since the revision of the entire
Ordinance would take more time. Mayor Brinley reiterated that she would
like to sit down with the Planning Commission to address signage and the
overall Ordinance. Councilman Schiffner suggested the need for a well
advertised study session which will obtain substantial input from the business
community. Mayor Brinley suggested announcing the Study Session at
tonight's meeting with notices on Channel Three and letters to the business
community to get the word out that attendance and input are encouraged.
Councilwoman Kelley noted the need to address the matter in the interim, but
questioned staffs ability to keep up with the enforcement. City Manager
Watenpaugh indicated that it would be a matter of priorities and they are
shifted frequently. Councilman Schiffner inquired if a fine was associated
with this ordinance. City Manager Watenpaugh confirmed, noting that it was
an administrative fine. Mayor Brinley noted that in her discussions with
Code Enforcement, what is really needed is clear language, as the current
code is ambiguous. She suggested a more thorough ordinance would make
enforcement easier and quicker. Councilman Schiffner questioned if every
type of administrative citation would carry the same penalty. City Attorney
Leibold advised that some are statutory with regard to due process, however
other violations are up to the City, as they are not mandated by the State. She
indicated that she was working with staff to look at administrative citation
issues at this time. Mayor Brinley suggested that variable citations don't
work, as it had been tried previously; and stressed the need for uniformity.
City Attorney Leibold indicated that staff had been wanting to address this for
quite some time, but suggested that the first step should be the sign
Ordinance. Mayor Brinley stressed that the regulations being considered
would be temporary until the Study Session with the Planning Commission;
and encouraged staff to development something with "bite ". Councilman
Schiffner noted that everyone should come forward and speak on this matter,
so the finished product is fair and just for everyone. Mayor Brinley
concurred. Councilman Schiffner stressed the importance of listening to
everyone to ensure that their objections are heard. Councilwoman Kelley
suggested that it might be necessary to tighten up on enforcement; and noted
additional concerns with regard the window coverage limitations,
commenting on existing violations. Mayor Brinley concurred and noted that
the situation had gotten out of control. City Attorney Leibold noted that the
Police Department feels strongly with regard to window coverage; and
indicated that it was typical for a City ordinance to regulate the size of a
window sign. Councilman Schiffner inquired if the fines would support
extra Code Enforcement work. City Manager Watenpaugh indicated that it
would not cover the necessary added enforcement, but noted efforts to clean
up problem vehicles, trash, etc.; and noted that it was not possible to cover it
all. Mayor Brinley noted the need to address the historic downtown overlay
district specifically. Community Development Director Brady indicated that
there were different sign regulations in the specific plans and overlays which
would be addressed separately. Mayor Brinley indicated that it was important
to advise the overlay district occupants that the matter will be discussed and
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may impact them. City Attorney Leibold indicated that there was a provision
in the Ordinance that deferred to other regulations or codes; and indicated that
this was more of a general, City -wide issue. She also noted that with regard
to banners, pennants, etc, there is a specific time period for each use; and
clarified the minimum period. Community Development Director Brady
noted that the verbiage in Item E should be changed from Steel to Metal.
City Attorney Leibold indicated that there were three spots where the
verbiage should be changed. Councilman Schiffner indicated that if there is
adequate publicity on the Study Session, it should put everyone on warning
that there will be a general sweep to get everyone in compliance. City
Manager Watenpaugh indicated that staff had been meeting on the street
sweeping issues and noted that modifications would be brought back at a later
date. He explained the potential for hiring City staff rather than Community
Service Officers to address those issues. Mayor Brinley concurred with
Councilman Schiffner that additional Code Enforcement people might be
important for a thorough sweep; and suggested that everything be addressed
at once. She reiterated that some signs have been in place for two years. City
Manager Watenpaugh indicated that the Ordinance revisions will make the
enforcement aspect easier. . Community Development Director Brady
indicated that signs tend to be an emotional issue and staff works with the
Chamber to continually educate the community. Mayor Brinley stressed the
number of tattered balloons and banners; and noted the need for consistent
enforcement. Councilman Schiffner indicated that the press would need to let
everyone know that the City is serious, and when the ordinance is done, it
will be rigidly enforced. Mayor Brinley commented on the importance of
being positive with business people, but stressed the need for consistent
enforcement. Councilman Schiffner noted that the City is a 1% partner with
each business, due to the sales tax they generate.
Mayor Brinley requested that City Manager Watenpaugh provide the staff
report on Item #31 regarding the Blast from the Past; followed by her
providing background information. She detailed the plans thus far, and the
sponsorships obtained to date. She noted the success of past events and
requested City Council support, through allowance for use of the Community
Center. City Manager Watenpaugh advised that the proposed action was
consistent with what had been done in the past for other non -profit uses; and
explained the fees that would still be required of the group.
Councilman Schiffner indicated that he likes the Cops for Kids charity and
would be happy to see this and HOPE as the City's two primary charities in
the City. Mayor Brinley indicated that there was interest in providing this
activity as an annual event to support Cops for Kids in the holiday season.
Councilman Schiffner noted that other charities might not see this as fair, but
indicated he felt it was a good cause to be involved in.
Councilman Schiffner noted that the RDA items are generally the same as the
City Council items.
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Mayor Brinley noted that both Boards would require Closed Sessions. City
Attorney Leibold noted the noticing of a Special Meeting for additional
Closed Session items regarding the Mission Trail right -of -way; and advised
that it was noticed for the conclusion of the regular meeting.
Mayor Brinity thanked staff for their participation in this meeting.
Tom Buckley inquired how many miles of slurry seal would be included
under Item #4 of the agenda. City Manager Watenpaugh indicated that he
would provide that information to Mr. Buckley.
ADJOURNMENT
The City Council Study Session was adjourned at 4:55 p.m.
I1
VICKI KASAD, CMC, CITY CLERK
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
MINUTES
REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
183 NORTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA
TUESDAY, AUGUST 22, 2000
CALL TO ORDER
The Regular City Council Meeting was called to order by Mayor Brinley at 7:04
p.m.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Recreation and Tourism Manager Edelbrock.
INVOCATION
The Invocation was provided Pastor Jack Warford representing First Southern
Baptist Church.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: KELLEY, METZE, PAPE,
SCHIFFNER, BRINLEY
ABSENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: NONE
Also present were: City Manager Watenpaugh, Assistant City Manager Best,
Legal Counsel Leibold, Administrative Services Director Boone, Community
Development Director Brady, Police Chief Walsh, City Engineer O'Donnell,
Information /Communications Manager Dennis, Public Works Manager
Payne, Recreation and Tourism Manager Edelbrock, City Treasurer Ferro
and City Clerk/Human Resources Director Kasad.
PRESENTATIONS
a. Presentation - Lake Elsinore Girls Softball Team.
Mayor called the Lake Elsinore Girls Softball Team forward for
presentation. She read and presented a Proclamation to the Team Coaches
and presented individual Certificates of Achievement to the following team
members:
Rene Finley, Pitcher
Megan Temple, Pitcher
Nichol Sanders, Catcher
Victoria Montez, Catcher
Kelsey Johnson, 1st Base
Laidy Arevalo, 1st Base
Jackie Harris, 2 "d Base
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Casey Cornell, 3' Base
Gloria Newman, 3rd Base
Elizabeth Valdez, left field
Michele Landau, left field
Barbara Alvarado, center field
Melissa Melindez, center field
Alison Lippold, right field
Kim Cornell, Coach
Mike Sanders, Coach.
Mayor Brinley commended the team members, parents and coaches on a job
well done. Coach Mike Sanders noted the community assistance in the
team's success.
b. Presentation - Chuck Sacks - 2000 Flight World Competition.
Chuck Sacks, representing California Skier, thanked the Council for the
opportunity to share recent and upcoming activities in the Inlet Channel and
on the levee. He stressed the increased activity on the Lake over the last
few months and detailed the events held to date. He announced an event to
be held on September 7' - 10`h , being the 2000 Flight World Competition
and an outdoor festival. He indicated that he would anticipate a very good
turnout; and detailed the events which will include hydrofoiling,
wakeboarding and free -style motocross. He looked forward to promoting
more events and making good use of the inlet channel. He invited the
public to come out and participate in the events.
PUBLIC COMMENTS — AGENDIZED ITEMS
None.
CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS
The following item was pulled from the Consent Calendar for further discussion
and consideration:
Item No. Lb.
MOVED BY KELLEY, SECONDED BY PAPE AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO APPROVE THE BALANCE OF THE CONSENT
CALENDAR AS PRESENTED.
The following Minutes were approved:
a. City Council/Redevelopment Agency Study Session - August 8,
2000.
2. Ratified the Warrant List for August 15, 2000.
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Received and ordered filed the Investment Report for June, 2000.
4. Authorized a Change Order to the 1999/2000 slurry seal contract not to
exceed $41,000 to Asphalt Maintenance Company for additional streets and
authorized a purchase order not to exceed $72,000 to Nelson Paving and
Grading for asphalt crack filling and asphalt repair work for the 2000/2001
Slurry Seal Project.
Approved Public Hearing Date of September 12, 2000, for the
following:
a. Final Conducting Authority hearing for Annexation No. 69 and
Sphere of Influence Amendment for Lusk Elsinore, Inc.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
21. Lake Elsinore Outlet Center Specific Plan Amendment No. 3, Zone Change
No 00 -02 Minor Design Review No. 00 -02, and Negative Declaration No.
00 -02 Castle and Cooke California, Inc.) Resolution No. 2000 -39 and
Ordinance Nos. 1066 and 1067.
Community Development Director Brady advised that this item was an
amendment to the Specific Plan which was adopted in 1990. He detailed
the past approvals of this project and advised that this amendment basically
focuses on the sign program improvements. He explained that they would
like to expand their signage to better promote the center, specifically on the
Collier side of the facility. He further advised that as part of the expansion,
a zone change is required for a 3.5 acre portion, which would add about 300
parking spaces to the center. He noted that it would also include minor
design review for the freeway identification sign; and detailed the proposed
sign. He explained that it would include messages and promotions for the
center and community events; and include landscaping and other elements
to soften its appearance. He displayed the color board for the sign and
detailed the actual colors to be used on the sign. He indicated that the
Planning Commission had recommended approval of this request and
detailed one minor change to Condition # 13 being the addition of the
following verbiage:
"Agreement would have to be completed prior to final permit for
installation of the sign."
Mayor Brinley opened the public hearing at 7:31 p.m., asking those persons
in favor of this project to speak. The following person spoke:
Steven DeBranch, representing Castle and Cooke, indicated that he was
present to thank the Council and City staff for their attention to this request.
He advised that they have been working on this project for about a year and
feel that it will enhance the marketability of the center as a destination spot
in Southern California.
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Mayor Brinley asked those persons in opposition to this project to speak.
Hearing no one, the public hearing was closed at 7:35 p.m.
City Clerk Kasad reported no written correspondence on this matter.
Councilman Schiffner indicated that all of the details had been worked out
with staff and it seemed to be generally desirable for the improvement of the
Center. He commented that he was happy to approve the changes.
Councilman Metze noted that he originally requested that this item be
delayed, and thanked Castle and Cooke, and their management team for
their cooperation. He indicated that he met with them because he wanted to
have a comfort level that they would be putting more into the Center, than
in the past; and he now had more of a comfort level that this would occur.
He expressed belief that the new owners and team would do a fantastic job.
He addressed Condition # 13 and indicated that they might not always be the
owner or the management team and questioned if it would be appropriate to
leave the sign matter up to staff. He indicated that he wanted the wording in
the agreement to allot time to the City that would meet or beat the time
received on the existing 76 sign; expressing concern that the City would
hear complaints if this was not the case. Community Development
Director Brady indicated that a copy of the existing agreement had been
sent to the applicant for review. Councilman Metze indicated that he was
satisfied with the time granted on the existing sign and would like to see at
least the same amount of time on this sign, as it would be of more use to the
City. Community Development Director Brady suggested that the
Condition could be amended. Councilman Metze inquired how much time
is allotted on the existing sign. City Manager Watenpaugh indicated that
the City is allotted 25% of the time per hour. Councilman Metze suggested
verbiage that this sign meet or exceed that level. Mr. DeBranch indicated
that the 25% would be an issue; noting that with nearly 100 stores it could
seriously impact the existing tenants at the Center. Councilman Metze and
Mr. DeBranch extensively discussed the 25% issue. Councilman Metze
indicated that it was hard to believe that 25% is a make or break situation;
and suggested that the community deserves that time. Mr. DeBranch
indicated that he could not say how the time would be allotted at this time,
as he is not the marketing expert and the negotiations with the future
operator have not been completed. Councilman Metze expressed concern
for this issue, noting that tax dollars subsidize the center. Mayor Pro Tem
Pape questioned how the time would be divided. Mr. DeBranch indicated
that those decisions have not been reached; but suggested that they would
entertain the use of the sign by the City to promote community events.
Mayor Brinley concurred with Councilman Metze, but concurred that the 76
Station was a different scenario. She stressed the importance of finding a
fair way to allocate the time; and suggested further negotiations with staff.
Councilman Metze questioned the direction to be given to staff on this issue
and complimented staff on the revised conditions of approval. He indicated
that he would prefer that format for all future staff reports, as it makes it
easier to get through the material.
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Councilwoman Kelley thanked City staff and the Planning Commission for
the great job they did on this project. She noted that Mr. Hilstrom who
lived nearby was accommodated by the Planning Commission to address his
concerns. She indicated that she had the opportunity to meet with Castle
and Cooke and had no problem with the expansion or the sign. She
expressed understanding of the difficulty in representing 100 stores; and
indicated that she did not see this as a reason to hold up the project if staff
feels they can come to a reasonable resolution. She suggested having staff
bring the agreement back for further consideration.
Mayor Pro Tem Pape commented that it was obvious that the extra parking
spaces would be a benefit, particularly during the Christmas holiday traffic.
He noted that he had questioned regarding the block wall, but they had been
clarified by staff. He indicated that with regard to the time allotted on the
sign, he had no strong feeling either way, but if it was possible to promote
some activities within the City, it would be a benefit.
Mayor Brinley indicated that her only comments were with regard to the
color of the sign. She addressed the tree in the rendering and questioned the
size to be planted. Mr. DeBranch indicated that they were planning on
planting 48" box Sycamore trees. She indicated that this will be a new and
exciting time for the Outlet Center and noted their contributions in sales tax
dollars. She noted that the total sales tax dollars for the City were up over
14.2% over the last quarter; and noted that much of this was due to the
Outlet Center. She indicated that she would like to see the sign issue
resolved as soon as possible, but it might be possible to let staff resolve the
issues and bring the agreement back for consideration. Councilman Metze
indicated that he would hate to see this sign have to come back to Council,
but he would like the issues resolved prior to the sign being turned on. He
stressed that the Outlet Center has been a going concern for many years and
was doing great until it changed ownership several times. He indicated
that he had been given a comfort level, but there were no guarantees that
this company would be here to proceed with the proposed work. He
stressed that the City is still subsidizing the center and that the sign would
not be a make or break issues. Mayor Brinley clarified the efforts to have
the sign include all of the stores. She suggested that the Council make a
motion to include sending this condition back to staff to find a workable
process and return to the Council. Councilman Metze indicated that he was
not opposed to the sign. Mayor Pro Tern Pape suggested a subcommittee of
two Councilmembers to address it and if agreement can not be reached then
the final agreement would go back to the Council. Mayor Brinley
suggested that Councilmembers Metze and Schiffner address this condition
with Community Development Director Brady.
MOVED BY METZE, SECONDED BY BRINLEY AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO APPROVE CERTIFIED NEGATIVE
DECLARATION NO. 00-02 BY ADOPTING RESOLUTION NO. 2000-39;
AND APPROVE ZONE CHANGE NO. 00-02 BY ADOPTING ORDINANCE
NO. 1066 UPON FIRST READING BY TITLE ONLY:
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RESOLUTION NO. 2000-39
A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF LAKE
ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA, CERTIFYING NEGATIVE
DECLARATION NO. 00-02.
ORDINANCE NO. 1066
AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA, APPROVING ZONE CHANGE
NO. 00-02 TO CHANGE THE ZONING DESIGNATION OF APN 389-
022 -001, FROM M -1 (LIMITED MANUFACTURING DISTRICT) TO
"LAKE ELSINORE OUTLET CENTER SPECIFIC PLAN.
UPON THE FOLLOWING ROLL CALL VOTE:
AYES: COUNCILMEMBERS: KELLEY, METZE, PAPE,
SCHIFFNER, BRINLEY
NOES: COUNCILMEMBERS: NONE
ABSENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: NONE
ABSTAIN: COUNCILMEMBERS: NONE
MOVED BY METZE, SECONDED BY BRINLEY TO APPROVE LAKE
ELSINORE SPECIFIC PLAN AMENDMENT NO.3 BY ADOPTING
ORDINANCE NO. 1067, WITH CONDITION #13 MODIFIED TO
INCLUDE VERBIAGE THAT COUNCILMEMBERS METZE AND
SCHIFFNER WILL WORK WITH CITY STAFF TO COME UP WITH AN
APPROPRIATE ALLOTTMENT OF TIME; AND APPROVED MINOR
DESIGN REVIEW NO. 00-02 BASED ON THE FINDINGS AND
CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL LISTED BELOW:
ORDINANCE NO. 1067
AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFONRIA, APPROVING AMENDMENT NO.
3 TO THE LAKE ELSINORE OUTLET CENTER SPECIFIC PLAN,
TO EXPAND THE OVERALL SPECIFIC PLAN AREA BY 3.5
ACRES TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL PARKING AND AMEND THE
SIGNAGE GUIDELINE3S AND STANDARDS CONTAINED IN THE
SPECIFIC PLAN.
UPON THE FOLLOWING ROLL CALL VOTE:
AYES: COUNCILMEMBERS : KELLEY, METZE, PAPE,
SCHIFFNER, BRINLEY
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NOES: COUNCILMEMBERS: NONE
ABSENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: NONE
ABSTAIN: COUNCILMEMBERS: NONE
FINDINGS — NEGATIVE DECLARATION NO. 00-02
1. Negative Declaration No. 00 -02 has been prepared, submitted and reviewed in
accordance with requirements of the California Environmental Quality Act and
the City's CEQA requirements, and are complete and adequate in their
evaluation of all environmental effects of the Lake Elsinore Outlet Center
Specific Plan Amendment No. 3 and associated discretionary approvals. The
Lake Elsinore Specific Plan Amendment No. 3 and associated discretionary
approvals will not result in any significant and unavoidable impacts.
2. The proposed applications will not have impacts that are individually limited
but cumulatively considerable. Given that project impacts are insignificant,
cumulative impacts are not foreseen.
3. The proposed applications do not have the potential to adversely affect
humans, either directly or indirectly.
FINDINGS — ZONE CHANGE NO. 00-02
1. Zone Change No. 00 -02 will not be: a) detrimental to the health, safety,
comfort or general welfare of persons residing or working within the
neighborhood of the proposed Zone Change area or within the City, or b)
injurious to property or improvements in the neighborhood or within the City.
2. Zone Change No. 00 -02 will be consistent with the Goals, Objectives, and
Policies of the General Plan and standards established in the Municipal Code.
3. Zone Change No. 00 -02 will not have a significant effect on the environment.
FINDINGS — LAKE ELSINORE OUTLET CENTER SPECIFIC PLAN
AMENDMENT NO.3
1. Specific Plan Amendment No. 3 meets the City's Specific Plan criteria for
content and required implementation of the General Plan established by
Section 65450 et sea. of the California Government Code and Section 17.99 of
the City of Lake Elsinore Municipal Code.
2. Specific Plan Amendment No. 3 shall be implemented consistently with the
Goals, Policies and Objectives of the General Plan; and with any other
applicable plans or policies adopted by the City.
3. Those issues, standards, guidelines, etc. not addressed in Specific Plan
Amendment No. 3 will revert to the 1990 Lake Elsinore Outlet Center Specific
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Plan, 1993 Specific Plan Amendment No. 1, 1994 Specific Plan Amendment
No. 2, and/or City Municipal Code in effect at the time future development is
proposed.
4. Development standards and regulations contained in Specific Plan Amendment
No. 3 supersede applicable City ordinances and codes, unless specifically
stated to the contrary. Approval of Specific Plan Amendment No. 3 shall not
be interpreted as waiving compliance with other Federal or State laws or City
Codes.
5. Specific Plan Amendment No. 3 allows future development to be well -
integrated with its surroundings.
6. Specific Plan Amendment No. 3 will be adequately serviced by existing and/or
future public facilities and services.
7. Overall design of Specific Plan Amendment No. 3 will produce attractive,
efficient and stable development.
8. Specific Plan Amendment No. 3 will not be detrimental to the health, safety,
comfort or general welfare of the persons residing or working near the project
area or within the City, nor will it be injurious to property or improvements in
the project area or within the City.
FINDINGS - MINOR DESIGN REVIEW NO. 00-02
1. Subject to the attached Conditions of Approval, Minor Design Review No. 00-
02 is not anticipated to result in any significant adverse environmental impacts.
2. Minor Design Review No. 00 -02 complies with the Goals, Objectives and
policies of the General Plan, and the Lake Elsinore Outlet Center Specific Plan
in which it is located.
3. Minor Design Review No. 00 -02 allows the proposed Freeway Electric
Message Sign to be well- integrated with its surroundings.
4. Minor Design Review No. 00 -02 will allow the proposed Freeway Electric
Message Sign to be attractive and stable.
5. Minor Design Review No. 00 -02 will not be detrimental to the public's health,
safety, or general welfare.
CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL
Planning Division Conditions
Within 30 Days After City Council Approval
1. Draft Lake Elsinore Outlet Center Specific Plan Amendment No. 3 shall be
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revised to incorporate any corrections and/or changes required by the Planning
Commission and /or City Council. Five copies of the Final Lake Elsinore
Outlet Center Specific Plan Amendment No. 3 document shall be submitted in
three- ringed binders for review and approval by the Community Development
Director or designee within 30 days of approval by the City Council. No
permit shall be issued until the Lake Elsinore Outlet Center Specific Plan
Amendment No. 3 document and any required revisions are administratively
approved by the Community Development Director or designee.
Throughout Project Implementation
2. Those issues, standards, guidelines, etc. not addressed in the Lake Elsinore
Outlet Center Specific Plan, as amended by Specific Plan Amendment Nos. 1,
2, and 3, will revert to the City Municipal Code in effect at the time future
development is proposed.
3. Those conditions of approvals established with the Lake Elsinore Outlet Center
Specific Plan and Specific Plan Amendment Nos. 1, 2, and 3 shall continue to
be implemented.
4. The applicant shall continue to implement those mitigation measures identified
in the Mitigation Monitoring Program adopted with the Lake Elsinore Outlet
Center Specific Plan and Specific Plan Amendment No. 1 Mitigated Negative
Declaration.
5. Parking lot sweeping shall not be allowed prior to 7:00 AM within areas closer
than 750 feet of a residential use.
Prior to Issuance of Grading Permit
6. The applicant shall prepare a photometric study for those light standards
located in the proposed 3.5 -acre expansion area parking lot. Said study shall
ensure that parking lights will not disturb neighboring land uses and shall be
approved by the Community Development Director or designee.
7. The applicant shall pay appropriate Stephen's kangaroo rat fees to the City at
an amount of $500 per acre.
8. The applicant shall acquire all necessary approvals and clearances from the
U.S. Army Corps of Engineers and California Department of Fish and Game as
appropriate.
Prior to Issuance of Building Permit
9. The applicant shall obtain all necessary Caltrans clearances and approvals,
prior to construction of the proposed Freeway Electric Message Sign.
10.The applicant shall acquire building permits for the proposed Entrance
Monument Signs, Freeway Electric Message Sign, Internal Site Identification
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Monument Sign, Internal Courtyard Tenant Signs, and Exterior Tenant Signs.
11.The final landscaping/ir,igation plan is to be reviewed and approved by the
City's Landscape Architect Consultant and the Community Development
Director or designee, prior to issuance of building permit. A Landscape Plan
Check Fee will be charged prior to final landscape approval based on the
Consultant's fee plus 40 percent.
• All planting areas shall have permanent and automatic sprinkler system with
100 percent plant and grass coverage using a combination of drip and
conventional irrigation methods.
• Applicant shall plant street trees, selected from the City's Street Tree List, a
maximum of 40 feet apart and at least 24 -inch box in size.
• All planting areas shall be separated from paved areas with a 6 -inch high
and 6 -inch wide concrete curb.
• Planting within 15 feet of ingress /egress points shall be no higher than 36
inches.
• Landscape planters shall be planted with an appropriate parking lot shade
tree to provide for 50 percent parking lot shading in 15 years.
• Any transformers and mechanical or electrical equipment shall be indicated
on landscape plan and screened as part of the landscaping plan.
• The landscape plan shall provide for ground cover, shrubs, and trees and
meet all requirements of the City's adopted Landscape Guidelines. Special
attention to the use of Xeriscape or drought resistant plantings with
combination drip irrigation system to be used to prevent excessive watering.
• All landscape improvements shall be bonded 100 percent for material and
labor for two years from installation sign -off by the City. Release of the
landscaping bond shall be requested by the applicant at the end of the
required two years.
• All landscaping and irrigation shall be installed within affected portion of
any phase at the time a Certificate of Occupancy is requested for any
building. All planting areas shall include plantings in the Xeriscape
concept, drought tolerant grasses and plants.
• Final landscape plan must be consistent with approved site plan.
• Final landscape plan must include planting and irrigation details.
Prior to Issuance of Certificate of Occupancy
12.The applicant shall provide all project - related onsite and offsite improvements
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as described in the Lake Elsinore Specific Plan Amendment No. 3 document.
13.The City and applicant shall enter into an agreement which allows the City to
advertise City- sponsored events on the Freeway Electric Message Sign. The
agreement shall be reviewed and approved by two representatives of the City
Council prior to final permit inspection.
14.All parking spaces shall be double- striped.
15.The applicant shall coordinate with neighboring residence to the southeast to
ensure a six -foot masonry wall is provided to separate the expansion parking
area from said residence. The applicant shall provide the six -foot masonry wall
if an agreement with the neighboring residence can not be reached.
16.The applicant shall install signs within the proposed 3.5 -acre expansion
parking area which prohibit delivery trucks from blowing their horns during
night -time hours. Store tenants shall also notify their delivery truck drivers
that horns shall not be blown during night -time hours.
Prior to Issuance of Slgn Permit
17.The applicant shall acquire sign permits for the proposed Entrance Monument
Signs, Freeway Electric Message Sign, Internal Site Identification Monument
Sign, Internal Courtyard Tenant Signs, Exterior Tenant Signs, and Directories
and Path Finder Signs.
Prior to Issuance of Temporary Sign Permit
18.The applicant shall acquire temporary sign permits for the proposed Interim
Tenant Signs and any banner and /or flag.
Engineering Division Conditions
Prior to Issuance of Grading Permit
19.If grading exceeds 50 cubic yards or the existing flow pattern is substantially
modified, grading plans shall be prepared by a California Registered Civil
Engineer and approved prior to grading permit issuance. Said grading plans
shall also indicate how the proposed 3.5 -acre expansion parking area will be
raised to accommodate entry off of Collier Avenue. Prior to any grading, the
applicant shall obtain a grading permit and post appropriate security.
20.The applicant shall prepare a street improvement plan that requires Community
Development Director and City Engineer approval and which addresses the
following:
• Relocates the street entry to the proposed 3.5 -acre expansion parking area
along Collier Avenue approximately 130 feet to the north, away from
existing residence to the southeast.
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• Redesign parking spaces and aisles to accommodate relocated street entry.
• Describe new median break along Collier Avenue that is required to
accommodate new full- access entry for the proposed expansion parking
area.
• A proposed street monument sign identifying the Outlet Center shall be
installed at the relocated street entry along Collier Avenue.
21.The applicant shall accept and convey offsite drainage flows subject to
approval by the City Engineer. As part of grading plans, the applicant shall
indicate how the existing "V" drainage channel which fronts the 3.5 -acre
expansion parking area along Collier Avenue and neighboring southeastern
parcel will be undergrounded.
Prior to Issuance of Building Permit
22.All City Public Works requirements shall be complied with as a condition of
development as specified in the City Municipal Code.
23.The Collier Avenue Street Improvement Plan must be modified to
accommodate the full entry entrance being proposed for the expansion area
parking lot. Said modification shall be approved by the City Engineer. An
encroachment permit must be issued prior to any construction.
Prior to Issuance of Certificate of Occupancy
24.The applicant shall pay all fees and meet requirements of the encroachment
permit issued by the City Engineering Division that is required for construction
of offsite public works improvements (LEMC 12.08, Resolution 83 -78).
GENERAL CONDITIONS
25.The applicant shall defend (with counsel acceptable to the City), indemnify,
and hold harmless the City, its officials, officers, employees, and agents from
any claim, action, or proceeding against the City, its officials, officers,
employees, or agents to attack, set aside, void, or annul an approval of the City,
its advisory agencies, appeals boards, or legislative body concerning the Lake
Elsinore Outlet Center Specific Plan; Specific Plan Amendment Nos. 1, 2, and
3; Zone Change No. 00 -02; Minor Design Review No. 00 -02; and Negative
Declaration No. 00 -02, which action is brought within the time period provided
for in California Government Code Sections 65009 and/or 66499.37, and
Public Resources Code Section 21167. The City will promptly notify the
applicant of any such claim, action, or proceeding against the City and will
cooperate fully in the defense. If the City fails to promptly notify the applicant
of any such claim, action, or proceeding, the applicant shall not, thereafter, be
responsible to defend, indemnify, or hold harmless the City.
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22. Vesting Tentative Tract Map No 23848 -9 10 and 11 Amendment No. 1
Cottonwood Hills Specific Plan.
Community Development Director Brady noted that this development will
be called Canyon Hills. He detailed the past approvals and explained that
this action will reconfigure 77 acres of the tract map, including the street
layout and the number of lots in the area. He advised that there would be a
total of 252 single - family lots; and provided an overview of the location of
this tract. He advised that only one condition would be amended in this
map, being Condition #74, with regard to when the traffic signal would be
installed. He explained that it was originally to be activated with the 50`t'
home, however the Planning Commission changed it to the 100' home. He
indicated that the Planning Commission reviewed this proposal and
recommended approval. Mayor Pro Tem Pape questioned the traffic signal
issue further, and inquired if it would be operational with the 100`x' home.
Community Development Director Brady confirmed that it must be
operational by the 100' home.
.Mayor Brinley opened the public hearing at 7:55 p.m. asking those persons
in favor of this project to speak. The following person spoke:
Jim Mullins, representing Pardee Construction, explained that this was an
amendment to the Tentative Tract Map approved several years ago; and
noted that it includes some of the nicest property in the specific plan area,
so they want to be sure it is done right. He explained that the design
separates the unit into two distinct lot sizes, and includes other qualitative
improvements with intersections, view lots and the total volume of grading.
He suggested that it was a substantial improvement over the old design.
Mayor Brinley asked those persons in opposition to the project to speak.
Hearing no one, the public hearing was closed at 8:00 p.m.
City Clerk Kasad reported no written correspondence on this matter.
Mayor Pro Tem Pape questioned the view lots and larger lots, and the
related topography. Mr. Mullins pointed out the areas of the highest ground
for development with rather dramatic slopes. He indicated that there was a
tremendous opportunity for views of the valley and toward Menifee. He
also noted the open space which will be beyond the creek, and showed
specific areas above a large slope which would look out over the valley.
Mayor Pro Tem Pape questioned the size of the homes. Mr. Mullins
indicated that they were still considering the sites, but they will allow for
some good sized homes.
Councilwoman Kelley noted that she had questions earlier this afternoon
regarding the tot lot and the open space area; however those concerns were
answered. She noted that she had only seen the tot lot and questioned the
additional open space; so staff clarified the location of other open space.
She indicated that she appreciates the fact that this project has been
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downsized and avoids four way stops.
Councilman Metze indicated that this project includes some definite
improvements, like the cul -de -sac and open space areas; and it should be a
beautiful project. He addressed page 11 of 39 and noted it would reflect
100 instead or 50; and reiterated that he likes to see the changes presented
as they are in this item.
Councilman Schiffner indicated that this was an approval of a change,
which seemed better, reduced density, elimination of four way stops; and
overall it was a big improvement.
Mayor Brinley addressed the signage program and noted that there used to
be a condition that advertising was to include a reference to the City of Lake
Elsinore. Community Development Director Brady requested clarification
of this condition. Mayor Brinley clarified that the intent was to require that
the signs include the City of Lake Elsinore. Mr. Brady indicated that he
would need to review the requirement. Councilman Schiffner questioned
the use of promotional signs during sales. Mr. Brady indicated that those
issues could be addressed in the Design Review process.
Mayor Brinley questioned the fire station requirement. City Manager
Watenpaugh noted that per the Development Agreement and Disposition
and Development Agreement, they are conditioned to pay developer
agreement fees. Mr. Watenpaugh indicated that he would need to review
the requirements, but they are conditioned to meet the requirements of the
fire department.
MOVED BY SCHIFFNER, SECONDED BY KELLEY AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO APPROVE VESTING TENTATIVE TRACT MAP
NO. 23848 -9,10, AND 119 AMENDMENT NO. 1 BASED ON THE
FOLLOWING FINDINGS, EXHIBITS 'A'THROUGH'E', AND SUBJECT
TO THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL:
FINDINGS
1. The proposed subdivision, together with the provisions for its design and
improvements, is consistent with the General Plan. The proposed subdivision is
compatible with the objectives, policies, general land uses and programs
specified in the General Plan (Government Code Section 66473.5).
2. The effects this project is likely to have upon the housing needs of the region,
the public service requirements of its residents and the available fiscal and
environmental resources have been considered and balanced.
3. The design of the subdivision provides to the greatest extent possible, for
future passive or natural heating or cooling opportunities in the subdivision
(Government Code Section 66412.3).
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Planning Division Conditions
1. Vesting Tentative Tract Map No. 23848 -9, 10, & 11, Amendment No. 1 will
expire two (2) years from date of approval unless within that period of time a
final map has been filed with the County Recorder, or an extension of time is
granted by the City of Lake Elsinore City Council in accordance with the
Subdivision Map Act.
2. Vesting Tentative Tract Map No. 23848 -9, 10, & 11, Amendment No. 1 shall
comply with the State of California Subdivision Map Act and shall comply
with all applicable requirements of the Lake Elsinore Municipal Code, Title 16
unless modified by approved Conditions of Approval.
3. Vesting Tentative Tract Map No. 23848 -9, 10, & 11, Amendment No. 1 shall
be subject to all other applicable Conditions of Approval of VTTM No. 23848.
4. The applicant shall defend (with counsel acceptable to the City), indemnify,
and hold harmless the City, its Official, Officers, Employees, and Agents from
any claim, action, or proceeding against the City, its Officials, Officers,
Employees, or Agents to attach, set aside, void, or annul an approval of the
City, its advisory agencies, appeal boards, or legislative body concerning
Vesting Tentative Tract Map No. 23848 -9, 10, & 11, Amendment No. 1, which
action is bought within the time period provided for in California Government
Code Sections 65009 and/or 66499.37, and Public Resources Code Section
21167. The City will promptly notify the Applicant of any such claim, action,
or proceeding against the City and will cooperate fully with the defense. If the
City fails to promptly notify the Applicant of any such claim, or proceeding,
the Applicant shall not, thereafter, be responsible to defend, indemnify, or hold
harmless the City.
5. A precise survey with closures for boundaries and all lots shall be provided, per
City Ordinance.
6. The City's Noise Ordinance shall be met during all site preparation activity.
7. Street names within the subdivision shall be approved by the Community
Development Director or Designee prior to final map approval.
8. Applicant shall bond for all public improvements and grading for subject
development as required by the City Engineer; a) Bonding shall be done by
phases and not by final maps(s) on grading; b)Bonding shall be done by final
map(s) for all other improvements.
9. Pay all applicable fees including park fees as stated in the development
agreement prior to issuance of building permits.
1O.Prior to final map approval of Vesting Tentative Tract Map No. 23848 -9, 10, &
11, Amendment No. 1, the improvements specified herein and approved by the
Planning Commission and the City Council shall be installed, or the bonds and
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agreement for said improvements, shall be submitted to the City for approval
by the City Engineer, and all other stated conditions shall be complied with.
I l.Prior to Final Tract Map approval, provide drainage acceptance letters from
adjacent property owners to be approved by the City Engineer and City
Attorney and recorded.
12.All of the improvements shall be designed by developer's Civil Engineer to the
specifications of the City of Lake Elsinore.
13.Applicant shall comply with all conditions of the Riverside County Fire
Department.
14.Applicant shall meet all requirements of Elsinore Valley Municipal Water
District (EVMWD).
15.The applicant shall provide fire buffer zones around the west, north, and south
portions of the tract boundary and landscape for fire retardant and erosion
control prior to issuance of the first Certificate of Occupancy. Pursuant to
Section 6.2 of the Cottonwood Hills Specific Plan requiring a Fire
Management Plan.
16.The applicant shall submit a Landscape & Irrigation Plan for the entire Phase 1
area prior to recordation of the Final Map.
17.The applicant shall submit a Community Lighting and OS Maintenance District
plan prior to obtain the first building permit for Phase 1.
18.The applicant shall meet all minimum lot frontage requirements per the
Cottonwood Hills Specific Plan. A revised map shall be submitted prior to City
Council Hearing showing compliance with these minimum frontage
requirements.
19.The applicant shall submit a Cottonwood Hills Signage Program prior to
recordation of the Final Map.
20.The applicant shall provide data per Section 9.3e, Residential Monitoring
Program, of the Cottonwood Hills Specific Plan prior to recordation of the
Final Map.
21.The applicant shall comply with the Mitigating Monitoring Program setforth in
the certified Environmental Impact Report.
22.The applicant shall provide connection to public sewer for each lot within the
subdivision. No service laterals shall cross adjacent property lines and shall be
delineated on engineering sewer plans and profiles for submittal to the
EVMWD.
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23.The developer shall submit plans to the electric utility company for a layout of
the street lighting system. The cost of street lighting, installation as well as
energy charges shall be the responsibility of the developer and/or the
association. Said plans shall be approved by the City and shall be installed in
accordance with the City Standards.
24.The applicant shall meet all requirements of the providing electric utility
company.
25.The applicant shall meet all requirements of the providing gas utility company.
26.The applicant shall meet all requirements of the providing telephone utility
company.
27.All trailers used during construction, mailboxes and signage shall be subject to
Planning Division review and approval prior to installation.
28.A Homeowners Association shall be established prior to Final Map approval. It
shall manage and impose fees to maintain all slopes or common areas, open
space, private drainage facilities, firebreaks, habitat areas, private recreational
facilities and grounds, private streets and any other common amenities. This
association shall be established subject to current State laws and be subject to
the approval of the City Attorney and Community Development Director who
shall review all CC & R's and rules for their adequacy and completeness. The
City Attorney shall review CC & R's, homeowners association documents and
all documents to convey title to the Homeowners Association.
29.Any alterations to the topography, ground surface, or any other site preparation
activity will require appropriate grading permits. A Geologic Soils Report with
associated recommendations will be required for grading permit approval, and
all grading must meet the City's Grading Ordinance, subject to the approval of
the City Engineer and the Planning Division. Analysis of impacts of fills and
cuts greater than sixty feet (60') shall be provided. Interim and permanent
erosion control measures are required. The applicant shall bond 100% for
material and labor for one (1) year for erosion control landscaping at the time
the site is rough graded.
30.All future structural development associated with this map requires separate
Design Review approval.
31.Prior to issuance of any grading permit and/or building permit, subdivider shall
sign and complete an "Acknowledgment of Conditions" and shall return the
executed original to the Community Development Department.
32.The applicant shall pay applicable fees and obtain proper clearance from the
Lake Elsinore Unified School District (LEUSD) prior to issuance of building
permits.
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Engineering Division Conditions
33.All Public Works requirements shall be complied with as a condition of
development as specified in the Lake Elsinore Municipal Code (LEMC) prior
to final map approval.
34.Tentative tract 23848 -9, 10, & 11 Amendment # 1 shall be subject to all
applicable conditions of approval of tentative tract 23848 (Cottonwood Hills
Development).
35.Pay all Capital Improvement and Plan Check fees (LEMC 16.34, Resolution
85 -26).
36.Submit a "Will Serve" letter to the City Engineering Division from the
applicable water agency stating that water and sewer arrangements have been
made for this project. Submit this letter prior to final map approval.
37.Construct all public works improvements per approved street plans (LEMC
12.04). Plans must be approved and signed by the City Engineer prior to final
map approval (LEMC 16.34).
38.Street improvement plans and specifications shall be prepared by 'a Calif.
Registered Civil Engineer. Improvements shall be designed and constructed to
Riverside County Road Department Standards, latest edition, and City Codes
(LEMC 12.04 and 16.34).
39.Applicant shall enter into an agreement with the City for the construction of
public works improvements and shall post the appropriate bonds prior to final
map approval.
40.Desirable grade for local streets is 9 %. The maximum grade of 15% should
only be used because of design constraints.
41.Pay all fees and meet requirements of encroachment permit issued by the
Engineering Division for construction of public works improvements (LEMC
12.08 and Resolution 83 -78).
42.All compaction reports, grade certifications, monument certifications (with tie
notes delineated on 8 '' /z" x 11" Mylar) shall be submitted to the Engineering
Division before final inspection of public works improvements will be
scheduled and approved.
43.Applicant shall obtain all necessary off -site easements for off -site grading from
the adjacent property owners prior to final map approval.
44.Provide fire protection facilities as required in writing by Riverside County
Fire.
45.Provide street lighting and show lighting improvements as part of street
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improvement plans as required by the City Engineer.
46.Developer shall install blue reflective pavement markers in the street at all fire
hydrant locations.
47.Applicant shall submit a traffic control plan showing all traffic control devices
for the tract to be approved prior to final map approval. All traffic control
devices shall be installed prior to final inspection of public improvements. This
includes No Parking and Street Sweeping Signs for streets within the tract.
48.All improvement plans and tract maps shall be digitized. At Certificate of
Occupancy applicant shall submit tapes and/or discs which are compatible with
City's ARC Info /GIS or developer to pay $300 per sheet for City digitizing.
49.All utilities except electrical over 12 kV shall be placed underground, as
approved by the serving utility.
50.If grading exceeds 50 cubic yards, grading plans shall be prepared by a Calif.
Registered Civil Engineer and approved prior to grading permit issuance. Prior
to any grading, the applicant shall obtain a grading permit and post appropriate
security.
51.Provide soils, geology and seismic report including street design
recommendations. Provide final soils report showing compliance with
recommendations.
52.All grading shall be done under the supervision of a geotechnical engineer and
he shall certify all slopes steeper than 2 to 1 for stability and proper erosion
control. All manufactured slopes greater than 30 ft. in height shall be
contoured.
53.Individual lot drainage shall be conveyed to a public facility or accepted by
adjacent property owners by a letter of drainage acceptance or conveyed to a
drainage easement.
54.0n -site drainage facilities located outside of road right -of -way should be
contained within drainage easements shown on the final map. A note should
be added to the final map stating "Drainage easements shall be kept free of
buildings and obstructions ".
55.All natural drainage traversing site shall be conveyed through the site, or shall
be collected and conveyed by a method approved by the City Engineer.
56.Submit Hydrology and Hydraulic Reports for review and approval by City
Engineer prior to approval of final map. Developer shall mitigate any flooding
and/or erosion caused by development of site and diversion of drainage.
57.All drainage facilities in this tract shall be constructed to Riverside County
Flood Control District Standards.
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58.Storm drain inlet facilities shall be appropriately stenciled to prevent illegally
dumping in the drain system; the wording and stencil shall be approved by the
City Engineer.
59.10 -year storm runoff should be contained within the curb and the 100 -year
storm runoff should be contained within the street right -of -way. When either of
these criteria are exceeded, drainage facilities should be installed.
60.Roof and yard drains will not be allowed to outlet through cuts in the street
curb.
61.A drainage acceptance letter will be necessary from the downstream property
owners for outletting the proposed stormwater run -off on private property.
62.Developer shall be subject to all Master Planned Drainage fees and will receive
credit for all Master Planned Drainage facilities constructed.
63.Applicant shall provide the city with proof of his having filed a Notice of Intent
with the Regional Water Quality Control Board for the National Pollutant
Discharge Elimination System (NPDES) program with a storm water pollution
prevention plan prior to issuance of grading permits. The applicant shall
provide a SWPPP for post construction which describes BMP's that will be
implemented for landscaping, the application of herbicides, pesticides and
fertilizers.
64.1ntersection site distance shall meet the design criteria of the CALTRANS
Design Manual (particular attention should be taken for intersections on the
inside of curves). If site distance can be obstructed, a special limited use
easement must be recorded to limit the slope, type of landscaping and wall
placement.
65.Intersecting streets on the inside radius of a curve will only be permitted when
adequate sight distance is verified by a registered civil engineer.
66.Cottonwood Hills Rd. from Railroad Canyon Rd. to Lost Rd. and Lost Road
south of Cottonwood Hills Rd. shall be improved as each phase is constructed
as specified in the letter of March 30, 1999 from Project Design Consultants.
67.Loca1 streets shall have a minimum of a sixty (60) ft. right -of -way with forty -
(40) ft. curb -to -curb. Restricted local streets (cul -de -sacs) shall have a
minimum of a fifty- six(56) ft. right -of -way with thirty -six (36) ft. curb -to -curb.
68.Developer shall install two benchmarks in accordance with Riverside County
Standards and at a location to be determined by the City Engineer.
69.No residential lot shall front and access shall be restricted on Lost Road and so
noted on the final map.
70.The applicant shall record CC & R's for the project prohibiting on- street
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storage of boats, motor homes, trailers and trucks over one (1) ton capacity.
The CC & R's shall be subject to the approval of the Community Development
Director, or his designee, prior to recordation of any deeds or final map. CC &
R's shall be recorded prior to issuance of any Certificate of Occupancy for
future units.
71.The residential lots adjacent to large open space lots shall be have an area in
the open space lot designated as a fuel modification zone for a firebreak to be
maintained by a homeowner's association.
72.The developer shall comply with a Cultural Resources Mitigation Program
prior to final map approval or grading permit (whichever occurs first). The
program shall be based on site evaluations by qualified archaeologists and
historians to establish significance of each site and a detailed plan for
appropriate mitigation, subject to the approval of the Community Development
Director. Compensation for disturbances to cultural resources shall be provided
by a program to recover information from sites that shall be monitored by
archaeologists where required by the EIR. In the event significant historic
material is discovered, it shall be removed before grading occurs.
73.All waste material, debris, vegetation and other rubbish generated during
cleaning, demolition, clear and grubbing or other phases of the construction
shall be disposed of at appropriate recycling centers. The, applicant should
contract with CR &R Inc. for recycling and storage container services, but the
applicant may use the services of another recycling vendor. Another recycling
vendor, other than CR &R Inc., cannot charge the applicant for bin rental or
solid waste disposal. If the applicant is not using CR &R Inc. for recycling
services and the recycling material is either sold or donated to another vendor,
the applicant shall supply proof of debris disposal at a recycling center,
including verification of tonnage by certified weighmaster tickets.
74.Applicant shall install a stop sign at the intersection of Lost Road & Cedarhill
Lane when the elementary school opens. The Developer shall install a traffic
signal at the intersection of Lost Road & Cedarhill Lane and the traffic signal
shall be operational at the occupancy of the 50v' unit.
23. Zoning Code Amendment (ZCA) No. 00 -01, Amendment to Sections
17.94.090 and 17.94.150 of the Lake Elsinore Municipal Code. Ordinance
No. 1068.
Community Development Director Brady explained the proposed
amendment to a very specific portion of the City's sign regulations. He
advised that the temporary sign regulations were reviewed by the Planning
Commission and staff with regard to modifications dealing with temporary
types of signs, particularly balloons. He detailed the proposed changes on
weekends and holidays, and noted that pennants and flags were also
addressed. He indicated that banners have been allowed up to four times
per year with a permit, and noted that the Commission wanted to make them
consistent. He explained that there would be an allowance for thirty - .
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consecutive days. He noted the safety concerns which would relate to
window coverage. He identified corrections on page two of the staff report
under Item D, #1, relating to pennants or flags; to read at least 30 days; and
noted that the same wording would apply in Section 4 under "at least 30
days ". He further identified a change in Item E, noting that "steel" should
be changed to "metal ".
Mayor Brinley opened the public hearing at 8:10 p.m. asking those persons
interested in this item to speak. Hearing no one, the public hearing was
closed at 8:11 p.m.
City Clerk Kasad reported no written correspondence on this matter.
Councilwoman Kelley noted that this Ordinance was discussed extensively
at the Study Session, and reiterated that it would be a temporary regulation.
She noted that it was suggested that a joint study session be held with the
Planning Commission; and indicated that under those circumstances, she
had no problem with a temporary ordinance and a Joint Study Session. She
noted that she had questions with regard to the sign coverage of window
areas and suggested monitoring this issue further.
Councilman Schiffner clarified for those listening that this would be a
temporary action to address obvious problems; but stressed that there was
the intent to have a complete study of this Ordinance and encouraged
anyone interested to come in and make their comments known on a speak
now or forever hold your peace basis. He indicated that once the
Ordinance is in place, it will probably take some heavy action toward
enforcement. He commented that it was inappropriate to have heavy
window coverage which limits the police department. He expressed hopes
that everyone would get involved to develop an Ordinance which is
acceptable to all; followed by a sweep to enforce the new Ordinance.
Councilman Metze noted the staff report and complimented the Planning
Commission on their consideration of this item. He expressed curiosity as
to whether a major signage study session would be held. City Manager
Watenpaugh indicated that was the reason for the temporary Ordinance,
which would allow for a little more business friendly stance on inflatable
signage. He explained that it would take a few months to revise the entire
sign Ordinance, but this will allow the process to move forward. Mayor
Brinley noted the Code Enforcement problems in responding to out of
conformance signs and suggested a stronger Ordinance; but also noted the
importance of making the requirements more efficient, versatile and
flexible.
Councilman Metze questioned the problems with the rest of the Sign
Ordinance. City Manager Watenpaugh advised that there was a need to
revise and clean up the entire Ordinance, and noted that staff had no
flexibility to allow some things in any manner. He indicated that it would
also allow for a more immediate response to situations. Councilman Metze
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reiterated that the Planning Commission did a great job on this Ordinance.
Councilman Schiffner stressed that this Ordinance was temporary, because
another change is contemplated.
Mayor Pro Tem Pape inquired with regard to item C regarding a "flashing
sign" and as to why it was included. Community Development Director
Brady indicated that it was a potential safety issue with regard to traffic, but
would still allow signs like the message sign approved for the Outlet Center.
Mayor Pro Tem Pape suggested a more extensive definition of "flashing
signage ". Mr. Brady clarified that this type of signage would have to be
specifically allowed. Mayor Pro Tem Pape questioned page 2, item 2
regarding whether verbiage was required which would not allow banners to
substitute for permanent signs. He also noted that this ordinance would
make the time limitations more restrictive. Community Development
Director Brady indicated that the current ordinance allows a 30 day period
with a permit each time. He noted that there was also some concern for the
aesthetics of the colors, signs, etc., so the Commission wanted to make a
consistency between the time for balloons and banner signs. Mayor Pro
Tem Pape addressed page three, item E and questioned the need for a permit
for sandwich type signs and questioned the cost. Mr. Brady indicated that
he was not certain of the cost, but believed it to be about $50, once a year.
Mayor Brinley noted that several businessmen have had problems with
Code Enforcement on their balloons and noted their usefulness for
marketing. She noted that it was felt that it was time to go back and review
the Sign Ordinance, as it has been 6 or 7 years since it was last reviewed in
its entirety. Councilman Metze suggested that it was more important to
give Code Enforcement a better legal process to clear up the matters more
expeditiously; noting that some take over a year to resolve. Mayor Brinley
inquired if the ordinance would include the Downtown Overlay District.
Community Development Director Brady indicated that the existing sign
regulations are City -wide, but specific plans and overlay districts can carry
additional sign regulations. He clarified the application of additional
regulations for signage in those areas. Mayor Brinley suggested looking at
a study session in the 2nd or 3'd week in October to give staff enough time to
prepare appropriate verbiage. City Attorney Leibold clarified that staff
would anticipate that the administrative citation procedure would be a
separate section of the Code, not specifically related to the sign code.
City Manager Watenpaugh inquired if the Council would prefer to have the
Ordinance revised before the major study session. Mayor Brinley suggested
having a set of ideas together for consideration and a basis from which to
start. She indicated that she would like to see staff notify the business
community of the study session and invite their participation. Councilman
Schiffner suggested a rough draft of the proposed changes.
MOVED BY KELLEY, SECONDED BY SCHIFFNER TO ADOPT
ORDINANCE NO. 1068 UPON FIRST READING BY TITLE ONLY, AS
AMENDED BY COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR BRADY.
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ORDINANCE NO. 1068
AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA, REPEALING EXISTING
CHAPTER 17.94.090 AND 17.94.150 OF THE LAKE ELSINORE
MUNICIPAL CODE IN ITS ENTIRETY AND ADDING A NEW
UPON THE FOLLOWING ROLL CALL VOTE:
AYES: COUNCILMEMBERS: KELLEY, METZE, PAPE,
SCHIFFNER, BRINLEY
NOES:
COUNCILMEMBERS:
NONE
ABSENT:
COUNCILMEMBERS:
NONE
ABSTAIN:
COUNCILMEMBERS:
NONE
BUSINESS ITEMS
31. Blast from the Past.
City Manager Watenpaugh highlighted the staff report on this item and
explained the past procedures for waiver of fees on events such as this. He
explained that this was a request for co- sponsorship of an even to benefit
Cops for Kids. He clarified that the waiver of fees would be for everything
except staff costs and cleaning fees. He detailed the overall costs and the
costs to be waived, being $1,750 total cost, waiver of $1,150, and a balance
of $650 to be paid by the event organizers and sponsors. Mayor Brinley
detailed some of the sponsors who had agreed to participate and announced
that the event would be held on October 28' at the Lake Community Center.
Mayor Brinley commented on the success of the past events and explained
that this would be a fun event with the decor and dress of the 1950's. She
announced that the price would be $25 per person and the event would run
from 8 p.m .to 1 a.m. She advised that light finger foods would be served.
She indicated that they have received a great response from the business
community for assistance and sponsorship and detailed some of the
participants. She requested community and Council support for the event.
City Manager Watenpaugh noted that the staff report requests Council
approval for the sale of alcohol and a partial street closure for the display of
muscle cars.
Councilwoman Kelley indicated that she had no problem with this event
and was pleased to see this type of events in the community.
Councilman Metze commented that the hard costs were being covered, so
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they were only requesting a waiver of building use. He indicated that this
was similar to past actions and said he saw no problem with approving it.
Councilman Schiffner inquired if the hard costs were still paid by the other
sponsors of the event. City Manager Watenpaugh confirmed. Councilman
Schiffner inquired if the City would also be sharing in the costs. Mr.
Watenpaugh indicated that the City would sponsor through waiver of fees,
with no payment of cash.
Mayor Pro Tem Pape indicated that he was in support of the event.
MOVED BY METZE, SECONDED BY KELLEY AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO APPROVE COSPONSORSHIP OF THE 'BLAST
FROM THE PAST" EVENT SCHEDULED FOR OCTOBER 28, 2000 AND
WAIVE ALL FACILITY RENTAL FEES AND DAMAGE DEPOSITS;
APPROVE THE SALE OF ALCOHOL AT THE EVENT AND APPROVE
THE STREET CLOSURE OF GRAHAM AVENEU FROM SPRING
STREET TO LANGSTAFF STREET AS ADDITIONAL PARKING FOR
THE EVENT.
ITEM PULLED FROM THE CONSENT CALENDAR
Minutes
b. Regular City Council Meeting - August 8, 2000.
Councilman Schiffner requested a correction of Pages 5 and 11 in reference
to the Animal Control Contract, noting that the funded amount should be
$85,000, rather than the $80,000 listed in the minutes.
MOVED BY SCHIFFNER, SECONDED BY KELLEY AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO APPROVE THE MINUTES AS CORRECTED.
THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING WAS RECESSED AT 8:34 P.M.
THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING RECONVENED AT 8:40 P.M.
PUBLIC COMMENTS — NON - AGENDIZED ITEMS
Mike Curran, 10462 Russell Ave., Garden Grove, indicated that he owns Integrity
Enterprises, which came to Lake Elsinore in November of 1998 and bought 12 of
20 duplexes on Joy Street. He indicated that they have tried to significantly
upgrade those units and turn them from rentals into low cost housing. He noted
that he had received tremendous support from the Police Department; however
recently received five registered mail citations for his properties, which indicated
that they were Final Notices of Violation. He indicated that upon receipt of the
citations he had to make three trips between City Hall and the Police Department
to address his concerns. He noted that he had problems with trash removal after
some of the residents moved, but a Lake Elsinore gardener is paid to care for the
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properties, so the violation of overgrown weeds was not accurate. He stressed
that they were trying to be good citizens of the community. Mayor Brinley
referred Mr. Curran to Police Chief Walsh and the City Manager.
Ted Garcia, 29042 Stoneridge Terrace, requested a crosswalk on Stoneridge
Terrace at Mountain Street. He noted an accident on August 10`x` when a small
girl was hurt, and stressed that the school bus stops there and there are no signs
requiring that the motorists slow down. He expressed concern for the children of
the neighborhood. Councilman Metze indicated that staff would follow -up on this
request.
Debbie Crawford, 15135 Knollwood Street, President of Elsinore Valley Arts
Network, encouraged attendance at the Music with a View concert series. She
indicated that the first two concerts had great attendance with 500 and 700 people;
and everyone had a fabulous time. She detailed the upcoming concerts, and noted
that there would be no concert on the Labor Day weekend. She stressed that the
concerts are free and detailed the time and location of the concerts.
Leroy Tucker, 3532 Cherry Blossom Lane, noted that the Council approved
having a consultant look at the campground for operations; and expressed hopes
that more than one company was lined up to review it. He suggested that 75
years was too long for a lease and indicated that 15 years should be plenty. He
also noted the meeting regarding the Riverside County Integrated Plan, and agreed
it was time to think about human habitat, rather than wiping out City land, just
because of a rat or a bird. He indicated that the water fowl and animals will find
places to go, where they can obtain food and water. He addressed Councilwoman
Kelley and noted that he was the first to come before the Council and talk about a
skateboard park for the young people, but indicated that he was not sure they
would be able to use the proposed facility.
Ace Vallejos, 15231 Cobre, resident of Cleveland Ridge, addressed the districting
initiative and indicated that he was interested as a resident that was wanted for
annexation. He suggested that the Lake was unique and a natural division for the
area, which makes districting important. He indicated that it was not necessary to
be a City resident in order to circulate a petition and suggested interested parties
call 678 -4049 for petitions.
Chris Hyland, 15191 Wavecrest addressed Councilman Metze and indicated that
she was sick and tired of him trying to humiliate her. She thanked him for
indicating that Lake Elsinore was a blighted City; and suggested that the City was
being investigated by the State because it had not addressed the blighted areas.
She indicated that the Council does not properly address its constituents, and
stressed that she would get the petitions signed and get rid of the Council. She
indicated that the residents of Cleveland Ridge don't want to be in the City, and
questioned why they would, as she wouldn't if she lived in those areas. She
reiterated that the residents of Lakeland Village could help get signatures for the
petitions. She expressed concern that many people in the community are not
registered to vote; but indicated that she was checking every signature and would
get rid of the Council. She indicated that she had enough insults, and suggested
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that the Council did not have the professional ability to decide how to handle the
peoples' money. She indicated that she was not insulted by the Council's
comments, as she knew who she was.
CITY MANAGER COMMENTS
City Manager Watenpaugh commented on the following:
1) Congratulated the Girls Softball team, its coaches and sponsors on
their successes.
2) Thanked Chuck Sacks for his efforts to market the community and
the Lake.
3) Expressed sympathy for the family of the recent drowning victim in
the Lake; and indicated that the City had made efforts to address the
concerns. He expressed hopes for public assistance in encouraging
safe use of the water, particularly with the upcoming Labor Day
weekend. He stressed safe enjoyment of the Lake.
CITY ATTORNEY COMMENTS
City Attorney Leibold announced the Closed Sessions as listed on the agenda and
noted that Item A would not be discussed at this meeting. She further noted the
Special Meeting Notice and indicated that the Council would need to call that
meeting to order separately for consideration of the three additional items.
COMMITTEE REPORTS
California Joint Powers Insurance Authority - Councilwoman Kelley - No
report.
Crime Free Multi- Housing Project - Mayor Brinley - No report.
Economic Development Corporation of Southwest Riverside County -
Councilman Schiffner - No report.
Lake Elsinore and San Jacinto Watersheds Authority - Mayor Brinley - No
report.
Lake Elsinore Chamber of Commerce Economic Development Committee -
Councilman Metze announced that the EDC had extended an invitation to
everyone to attend the 4' arnual appreciation luncheon on September 14' from
11:30 a.m. to 1:30 p.m. at ty_e Sizzler Restaurant. He indicated that the cost was
$25 per person and RSVP's should be made to the Chamber office. He announced
that the keynote speaker would be Sunli Aravelis from the UCR business
marketing program. He slresscd that the EDC is a vital part of the economic
development of the community; and encouraged attendance at the luncheon.
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Multi- Species Habitat Committee - Councilman Schiffner - No report.
Riverside County Transportation Commission - Mayor Pro Tern Pape - No
report.
Riverside Transit Agency - Mayor Brinley indicated that on September 8', the
RTA would be offering a program at Withrow Elementary School to handprint a
40 foot bus and encouraged participation, noting that the bus would be traveling
through the City from September 11' through 15'x'.
Satisfy 2020 Committee - Councilwoman Kelley indicated that the Satisfy 2020
Committee was going to be scheduling a Study Session with the Council in the
near future. She explained that the discussions had reached a point where it was
necessary to bring information back to the Council, before it could proceed
further.
Western Riverside Council of Governments - Mayor Brinley - No report.
CITY COUNCIL COMMENTS
Councilwoman Kelley commented on the following:
1) Reminded the community of the Music with a View concert series.
2) Congratulated the Girls Softball Team on their success.
3) Announced that Coach Birt of Temescal Canyon High School was
recognized as Coach of the Week on Monday night football; and
indicated that it was exciting to see him honored as one of the best
football team coaches in the area.
Mayor Pro Tern Pape commented on the following
1) Congratulated Coach Birt and noted that he was present when the
award was presented. He indicated that the team was very excited
about this recognition and noted they were also recognized for the
academic achievement of the players, whose average gpa's are 3.4.
2) Suggested the inclusion of discussion of Proposition 12 money for
cities be included in an upcoming Study Session. He noted that the
City should received a little over $180,000 and suggested that it
would make sense to look at options and put together ideas for
equipment in existing parks or the development of a tot lot or the
skateboard park. He stressed that it was important to look at costs
and prioritize projects.
Councilman Schiffner commented on the following:
1) Responded to Mr. Tucker concerning the habitat; and agreed with his
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comments, but clarified what he felt was a misunderstanding of the
situation. He explained that there were two agencies in the County
working on a plan to satisfy the Federal Government requirements for
protection of endangered species. He stressed that efforts were being
made to submit a program for their acceptance. He stressed that there
was an interest in protecting some 164 species and noted the types of
requirements which would be imposed. He noted that the City could
ultimately choose not to participate in the plan.
2) Addressed Mr. Vallejos' comments with regard to his concerns with
annexation of Cleveland Ridge. He indicated that he knew of no plan
in the last four years to attempt to annex any part of that property;
noting that he would be totally against annexing that territory. He
stressed that it was absolutely not true that there was an annexation
proposed, however individuals could approach the City for
annexation. He indicated that there was no reason for the City to take
on such a responsibility and stressed that there was no intention of
pursuing an annexation.
Councilman Metze commented on the following:
1) Indicated that he hoped that people could differentiate when he was
responding to a specific statement or an individual, rather than the
entire citizenry. He noted that he was accused of talking to the
constituents inappropriately and stressed that he was merely
responding to an individual in reference to a specific comment.
Mayor Brinley commented on the following:
1) Congratulated the Girls Softball Team, parents and coaches on a job
well done. She noted her son's participation in organized sports and
stressed the cost of participation and dedication required to support
children in these activities. She expressed pride in having the girls
represent the City of Lake Elsinore.
2) Addressed the Blast from the Past event and invited volunteers to
help decorate for the event or help in the kitchen; noting that
volunteers could contact her at City Hall or contact the Chamber of
Commerce office.
3) Noted upcoming special events including the Classic Car Show on
August 26" , the PRCA Rodeo on September 1 - 3, the Open Air
Market on September 3`d, the Flight World event on September 7 -
10, and the Music with a View concert series on September 9' and
16".
CLOSED SESSION
A. CONFERENCE WITH LEGAL COUNSEL -- EXISTING LITIGATION
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(Subdivision (a) of section 54956.9) California Bank & Trust v. City of
Lake Elsinore et al (Riverside Co. Superior Court Case #344190)
B. CONFERENCE WITH LEGAL COUNSEL - EXISTING
LITIGATION (Subdivision (a) of Government Code Section
54956.9) City of Lake Elsinore vs. All Persons Interested et al, Riverside
Local Agency Formation Commission (CASE #RIC 311942) (Cleveland
Ridge).
THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING WAS ADJOURNED TO CLOSED
SESSION AT 9:17 P.M. FOR DISCUSSION OF ITEM B AS LISTED
ABOVE.
THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING RECONVENED AT 10:39 P.M. WITH
NO REPORTABLE ACTION.
ADJOURNMENT
MOVED BY BRINLEY, SECONDED BY PAPE AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO ADJOURN THE REGULAR CITY COUNCIL
MEETING AT 10:40 P.M.
T ST:
�� I KAT--,- A, MC CITY CLERK
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
MINUTES
SPECIAL CITY COUNCIL MEETING
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
183 NORTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA
AUGUST 22, 2000
CALL TO ORDER
The Special City Council Meeting was called to order by Mayor Brinley at 9:15
p.m.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: KELLEY, METZE, PAPE,
SCHIFFNER, BRINLEY
ABSENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: NONE
Also present were: City Manager Watenpaugh, Assistant City Manager Best,
Legal Counsel Leibold, Administrative Services Director Boone, Community
Development Director Brady, Police Chief Walsh, City Engineer O'Donnell,
Information /Communications Manager Dennis, Public Works Manager
Payne, Recreation and Tourism Manager Edelbrock, City Treasurer Ferro
and City Clerk/Human Resources Director Kasad.
CLOSED SESSION
A. CONFERENCE WITH REAL PROPERTY NEGOTIATOR (Government
Code Section 54956.8)
Property: Assessor's Parcel No. 370 - 040 -028
Negotiating Parties: Ely Kass and the City of Lake Elsinore
Under Negotiation: Price and Terms of Payment
B. CONFERENCE WITH REAL PROPERTY NEGOTIATOR (Government
Code Section 54956.8)
Property: Assessor's Parcel No. 370-040-030,370-040-031, AND 370 -040-
001
Negotiating Parties: Saykr Inc. and the City of Lake Elsinore
Under Negotiation: Price and Terms of Payment
C. CONFERENCE WITH REAL PROPERTY NEGOTIATOR (Government
Code Section 54956.8)
Property: Assessor's Parcel No. 365- 030 -001
Negotiating Parties: Denis Trudeau et al. and the City of Lake Elsinore
Under Negotiation: Price and Terms of Payment
City Attorney Leibold announced the Closed Session items as listed above and
explained that they all involved real property acquisitions for Mission Trail Right -
of -way.
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THE SPECIAL CITY COUNCIL MEETING WAS RECESSED TO
CLOSED SESSION AT 9:16 P.M.
THE SPECIAL CITY COUNCIL MEETING RECONVENED AT 10:39 P.M.
WITH NO REPORTABLE ACTION.
ADJOURNMENT
MOVED BY BRINLEY, SECONDED BY PAPE AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO ADJOURN THE REGULAR CITY COUNCIL
MEETING AT 10:40 P.M.
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CITY CLERK
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE