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CITY COUNCIL STUDY SESSION
CITY OF LADE ELSINORE
130 SOUTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA .
TUESDAY, JUNE 27, 2000
CALL TO ORDER
Mayor Brinley called the Study Session to order at 4:04 p.m.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: COUNCILMEMBERS:
KELLEY, SHIFFNER,
.BRINLEY
ABSENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: METZE, PAPE
Also present, were: City Manager Watenpaugh, Assistant City Manager
Best, City Attorney Leibold, Information /Communications Manager
Dennis, Deputy City Clerk Bryning.
DISCUSSION
a. Agenda Review for City Council A eg nda. (FA4.1)
City Manger Watenpaugh stated that Councilman Metze, called and he
will not be attending the Study Session or the City Council Meeting.
Mayor Brinley confuxned the Pastor for the hivocation.
City Manager Watenpaugh stated that the Business of the Quarter
would be presented to George McDonough, owner of Robbins Pest
Control.
Mayor Brinley stated that Mr. French would be presenting a picture to
the City from our Sister City.
City Manager Watenpaugh stated that Debbie Crawford would be
presenting the winner of the Young Poets Contest to Council.
Deputy City Clerk Bryning stated that ABATE called and they will be
at the next meeting to make a presentation,
Councilwoman Kelley, questioned what, activity was going on at one of
the parks on Riverside Drive. City Manager Watenpaugh stated that
there was a Rave Concert going on at the Roadrunner and the Police
Department responded and wrote in excess of 40 citations.
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Councilwoman Kelley questioned Agenda Item No. 3 - Settlement of
Claim by Darwin Rogers. City Attorney Leibold explained that
Dismissed without Prejudice, means that he cannot come back with
further legal action. She noted that this was regarding an incorrect
billing regarding Weed Abatement. She explained that the TRO for
the Palm Trees was released and the Fleming action was over and the
case was dismissed with all attorneys fees denied.
Councilwoman Brinley questioned Item No. 4 - Federal Surplus
Property Program. City Manager Watenpaugh noted that it is a
renewal of the Application to participate in the program. Councilman
Schiffner asked how the City finds out about the items. City Manager
Watenpaugh explained that the City receives lists of items available as
well as a contact that notifies the City of items.
Councilwoman Kelley questioned Item No. 5 - LSA Associates
Contract to'Establish a Traffic Impact Roadway Fee Program. City
Manger Watenpaugh gave an overview of the programthat LSA
performs. Councilwoman Kelley asked if this item includes special
projects. City Manager Watenpaugh stated that this is for roadway
replacement, improvements, street signs, traffic signals, curbs, gutters''.
and sidewalks. He stated that this includes anything in the right -of-
way. Councilman Schiffner noted that the fees are a large amount of
the cost of a house and it is necessary to have fees equal to the areas
around the City.
Councilwoman Kelley questioned Item No. 6 - CDBG Reprogramming
- Code Enforcement. She asked that staff provide' Council with a list
of the buildings that are in the abatement process.
Councilwoman Kelley questioned Item No. 7 Joint Powers `
Agreement - Tuscany Hills Park. She asked if there was going to be a
concession stand at that site. City Manager Watenpaugh stated that
there would be no concession stand at thatsite. Mayor Brinley
questioned the Joint Powers Agreement. City Manager Watenpaugh
stated that it would be between the City and the School District. He
gave an overview of the agreement and the joint use. Councilwoman
Kelley asked if the user groups still ` pay for the electricity:. City
Manager Watenpaugh stated that they do. Councilwoman Kelley
noted the problems with the light bulbs. She asked if the City was
going to retrofit the fights. City Manager Watenpaugh stated that
Lakepoint Park has been retrofited and new light standards will cost
approximately $74,000 to replace and would be done in phases.
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City Manager Watenpaugh stated that staff suggested that item No. 1I-
Renewal of Animal Control Agreement - 'Animal Friends of the
Valley, be pulled to set for a Study Session. He noted that LEAF
would not be available to answer questions and staff has some
concerns regarding clarification. Councilman Schiffner asked if there
were concerns regarding the Agreement. City Manager Watenpaugh
stated that staff had concerns regarding the breakdown of fees and they
would like to see a breakdown of LEAF's study.
Councilwoman Kelley questioned Item No. 21 - Public Hearing on
Local Law. Enforcement Block Grant Program Award. She requested
clarification of the sweeps mentioned in the Grant. City Manager
Watenpaugh explained that it addresses a tactical team of from 2 to 6
officers and sweep areas that are known to be problem areas. He
noted that this would include bicycle patrols. He stated that the City
should have the new traffic machine in mid July. Mayor Brinley asked
the location of the bicycle patrol City Manager Watenpaugh gave an
overview of the various locations and times of year that they will be
utilized.
Councilwoman Kelley questioned Item No. 31 - Photographic Use
Policy. She asked the City Manager to clarify this item. City Manager
Watenpaugh gave an overview of the item and noted that it is staffs
recommendation that a charge of _$.10 for staff time be added to the
cost of the reproduction of photographs that the public wishes to buy.
Councilman Schiffner stated that $10 would not cover the cost of staff
time.11 City Manager Watenpaugh stated this was on the Agenda to set`
a Policy and staff has suggested a review in six months to see if the
Policy and charges are fair.
Councilwoman Kelley questioned item No. 32 - Ordinance No. 1065 -
Adding Chapter 12.14 to Title 12 of the Lake Elsinore Municipal
Code, Establishing Basic Operation of Towing Service. She asked
how may tow services are in the City. City Manager Watenpaugh
stated that there are 4, however there have been several other towing
services from outside the City that wish to conduct business in Lake
- Elsinore and the purpose of the Ordinance is to regulate the outside
services and if they wish to be in the rotation, then they would have to
conform. Councilman Schiffner questioned the fees. City Manger
Watenpaugh stated that the fees are mandated by the State and
controlled through the Police Department. He gave an overview of the
requirements to be a Tow Service,' which Follows California Highway
Patrol regulgljgns. City Attorney Leibold explained the rotation system
used:
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Councilwoman Kelley questioned Item No. 33 - Campground
Operations Appropriation. She asked for Clarification. City Manger
Watenpaugh explained that it was anticipated that the City would have
an agreement with a concessionaire and the Campground was not
placed in the FY 2000/2001 Budget, therefore staff is requesting
General Fund money to operate and maintain the Campground from
July ls` through September 30'h,2000.
Councilman Schiffner questioned Item No. 34 Right of Entry
Agreement for Potential Campground Concessionaire. He asked for
clarification: City Attorney Leibold stated that the Right of Engry
Agreement is to allow the potential concessionaire to enter the
Campground and perform their due diligence. Councilman Schiffner
questioned the two 30 day extensions. City Attorney Leibold stated
that an extension could only be given upon review of the City
Manager.
City Attorney Leibold stated that there is a need to add an item to the
Agenda due to Councilman Metze absence. She explained that the
Interview Committee for the Planning Commission was set by Council
action and the seat that has been made vacant by Councilman Metze
should be considered by Council. She noted that it would take a 4/5'h
vote to add this item: to the Agenda.
THE CITY COUNCIL STUDY SESSION WAS RECESSED AT 4 :45
P.M. .
THE CITY COUNCIL STUDY SESSION WAS RECONVENED AT
4:47 P.M.
Mayor Brinley recognized Mr. Dan Uhlry who requested to address
Council.
Dan Uhlry, 150 E. Lakeshore Drive, asked that Council consider a
continuance of Item No. 32 - Establishing Basic. Operations of Towing
Service. He stated that the, local towing companies have not had time
to review the Ordinance and he asked that Council allow all of the
Towing Services in the City that opportunity. He stated that the local
Towing Services would like to meet with the City Manager and Chief
of Police to answer any questions they might have. City Manger
Watenpaugh stated that should Council .decide to continue the item he
would be glad to meet with the representatives of the local Towing
Services along with -Chief Walsh and stated that it might be an
advantage to have Lieutenant Mendoza attend as well. Councilman
Schiffner asked if this was an urgent item. City Manager Watenpaugh
stated that it was not.
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ADJOURNMENT
MOVED BY KELLEY, SECONDED BY SCHIF]F'NER AND
CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO
ADJOURN THE CITY COUNCIL STUDY SESSION AT 4:55 P.M.
ATTEST:
DEPUTY CITY CLERK
MINUTES
REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
183 NORTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA
TUESDAY, JUNE 27, 2000
CALL TO ORDER
The Regular City Council Meeting was called to order by Mayor Brinley at
7:02 P.M.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
Police Chief Walsh led the Pledge of Allegiance.
INVOCATION
Pastor Jim Alexander, representing Lake Providence Missionary Baptist
Church provided the Invocation.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: KELLEY, PAPE,
SCHIFFNER,
BRINLEY
ABSENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: METZE
Also present were: City Manager Watenpaugh, Assistant City Manager
Best, City Attorney Leibold, Administrative Services Director Boone,
Community Services Director Sapp, Police Chief Walsh, City Engineer
O'Donnell, Information /Communications Manager Dennis, Planning
Manager Villa, Engineering Manager O'Donnell, City Treasurer Ferro and
Deputy City Clerk Bryning.
PRESENTATIONS
a. Presentation - Elsinore Valley Arts Network.(F:62.1)
Debbie Crawford, President of EVAN, explained that last month the
Young Poets Contest was held. Gabe Rivera, a student at Ortega High
School, won I' Place for his poem called, "Dense Prejudice ". Ms.
Crawford explained that the judges and members of the Arts Network
were so moved by the wisdom of the poem, that they felt it should be
shared with the community. She presented the framed poem to the
City of Lake Elsinore and asked that it be hung in the Cultural Center.
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She then introduced Gabe Rivera and read his poem to the audience.
Mayor Brinley commended Mr. Rivera and stated that the poem
would be displayed in the Cultural Center for the community to enjoy.
b. Presentation - Harvey French - Helsignor Denmark Portrait. (17:45.1)
Mayor Brinley introduced Harvey French and explained that his wife,
who recently passed away, was the first woman Mayor of the City of
Lake Elsinore. Mr. French noted that Cheryl French was elected to
the City Council in 1956 and served as Mayor from 1958 to March
1959. He explained that when his wife was Mayor of the City of Lake
Elsinore she received a picture of Kronberg Castle from Mayor
Sigured Schytz of Helsignor Denmark. He presented the picture to
the City to be hung in the lobby of City Hall. Mayor Brinley thanked
Mr. French and commended him for being willing to share the picture
with the citizens of the community.
C. Presentation - Business of the Quarter - Springy 2000.
(F:56.1)(X:70.1)
Mayor Brinley presented a plaque to George McDonough owner of
Robbins Pest Control, for Business of the Quarter, Spring, 2000. She
commended him for his hard work and contributions to the
community. Mr. McDonough thanked City Staff and Council. He
thanked his customers and stated that he would not have been in
business for the last four years if not for their loyalty.
d. Proclamation - Parks & Recreation Month. (F:122.1)
Mayor Brinley presented the proclamation for Parks and Recreation
Month to Community Services Director Sapp. Mr. Sapp thanked
Mayor Brinley and Council.
Mayor Brinley stated that there was a need to add an item to the Agenda.
She stated that at the last City Council Meeting Council approved the
Committee Members selected to conduct the Planning Commission
Interviews. She noted that since Councilman Metze would not be able to
attend and no alternate was selected, it would be necessary to select another
person to sit the Committee. She suggested that the item be added as item
Number 35 - Interview Committee Member Selection.
MOVED BY PAPE, SECONDED BY SCHIFFNER AND CARRIED
BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO ADD ITEM
NUMBER 35 - INTERVIEW COMMITTEE MEMBER SELECTION
TO THE AGENDA.
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PUBLIC COMMENTS - AGENDIZED ITEMS
Requests were received to address the following items and deferred to those
discussions:
Item Nos. 5
CONSENT CALENDAR
The following items were pulled from the Consent Calendar for further
discussion and consideration:
Item Nos. 11
MOVED BY PAPE, SECONDED BY KELLEY AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO APPROVE THE
BALANCE OF THE CONSENT CALENDAR AS PRESENTED.
The following Minutes were approved:
a. Joint City Council/Planning Commission Study Session - June
8, 2000. (F:44.4)
b. City Council Study Session - June 8, 2000. (F:44.4)
C. Regular City Council Meeting - June 13, 2000. (F:44.4)
d. City Council Study Session - June 15, 2000. (F:44.4)
e. Adjourned Regular City Council Meeting - June 15, 2000.
(F:44.4)
The following Minutes were received and filed:
f. Planning Commission Meeting - May 17, 2000. (F:60.3)
g. Planning Commission Meeting - June 7, 2000. (F:60.3)
h. Design Review Commission Meeting - May 17, 2000. (17:60.4)
i. Design Review Commission Meeting - June 7, 2000. (F:60.4)
2. Ratified Warrant List for June 15, 2000. (F:12.3)
3. Authorized the Director of Administrative Services to issue a warrant
to Darwin Rogers in the amount of $12,250. (F:52.2)
4. Authorized the City Manager to sign the application for Federal
Surplus Property Program and direct the City Clerk to execute the
document. (F:48.1)
6. Approved the reprogramming of $10,475 from FY 1999/2000 to the
FY 2000/2001 Structure Abatement Program; approved the
reprogramming of $163.59 from FY 1997/1998 to the 2000/2001
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Structure Abatement Program; approved the reprogramming of
$242.44 from FY 1996/1997 to 2000/2001 Structure Abatement
Program; and required staff to submit all documentation and minute
excerpts to the County of Riverside Economic Development Agency.
(17:84.2)
7. Approved the Joint Powers Agreement with the Lake Elsinore Unified
School District for use of Tuscany Hills Park; approved increased
maintenance costs associated with the landscape improvements; and
authorized staff to enter into an agreement with Kobata Associates,
Inc. for design and construction documents for the landscape areas at
a cost of $10,200 with Phase I work of proceed only at this time
(F:68.1)(X:142.1)
8. Approved the Joint Powers Agreement between the City of Lake
Elsinore and the Lake Elsinore Unified School District for the City's
maintenance and operation of the fields at Terra Cotta Middle School.
(F:68.1)(X:142.1)
9. Approved the annual review of the Investment Policy of the City of
Lake Elsinore. (F:120.1)
10. Approved a Public Hearing date of July 24, 2000 for the purpose of
hearing City Wide Lighting and Landscape Maintenance District
Fiscal Year 2000/2001; and adopting Resolution No. 2000 -20, 2000-
21, AND 2000 -22. (17:22.2)
RESOLUTION NO. 2000-20
A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL ORDERING
THE PREPARATION OF PLANS, SPECIFICATIONS,
COST ESTIMATE, DIAGRAM, ASSESSMENT AND
REPORT PURSUANT TO THE PROVISIONS OF
DIVISION 15, PART 2 OF THE STREETS AND
HIGHWAYS CODE OF THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA,
FOR PROCEEDINGS FOR THE ANNUAL
ASSESSMENT LEVY AFTER FORMATION OF A
DISTRICT.
RESOLUTION NO. 2000-21
A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVING
THE ENGINEER'S "REPORT" FOR THE ANNUAL
LEVY OF ASSESSMENTS FOR FISCAL YEAR 2000 -01
IN A DISTRICT WITHIN SAID CITY.
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RESOLUTION NO. 2000-22
A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL
DECLARING ITS INTENTION TO PROVIDE FOR AN
ANNUAL LEVY AND COLLECTION OF
ASSESSMENTS FOR CERTAIN MAINTENANCE IN AN
EXISTING DISTRICT, PURSUANT TO THE
PROVISIONS OF DIVISION 15, PART 2 OF THE
STREETS AND HIGHWAYS CODE OF THE STATE OF
CALIFORNIA, AND SETTING A TIME AND PLACE
FOR THE PUBLIC MEETING AND PUBLIC HEARING
THEREON.
PUBLIC HEARING
21. Public Hearing on Local Law Enforcement Block Grant Program
Award. (F:84.8)
City Manager Watenpaugh explained that this was a Grant Program
that the Police Department had applied for. He further explained that
the grant was in the amount $78,716 with a match from the City in the
amount of $8,746. He noted that the money would be used for
increased law enforcement services for the City and gave an overview
of the programs activities. He noted that the match money was
budgeted for July 1. He stated that it was staffs recommendation that
the Mayor and City Council approve use of the grant funds as
recommended by the Advisory Board.
Mayor Brinley opened the public hearing at 7:18 p.m. and asked for
anyone one who wished to speak on the project. Hearing no one the
public hearing was closed at 7:19 p.m.
Mayor Pro Tern Pape stated that the City has applied for this grant in
the past and noted that the City gains a great deal from the Grant
Program and he felt that it made a lot of sense.
Councilman Schiffner stated that the Police Department has
established the program and he would not try to second -guess them in
the application. He stated his approval of the program.
Councilwoman Kelley stated her support of the program.
MOVED BY KELLEY, SECONDED BY SCHIFFNER AND
CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO
APPROVE THE USE OF THE GRANT FUNDS AS
RECOMMENDED BY THE ADVISORY BOARD.
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BUSINESS ITEMS
31. Photographic Use Polic . (F:120.1)
City Manager Watenpaugh stated that staff has received several
requests for photographs and photo items that the City has taken or
hired done. He further stated that there is no policy or fees that
consistently addresses this issue. He noted that the purpose of this
item is to request a general policy that would allow staff to respond to
public requests and provide for private usage, copies of photographs
that the City has the rights to. He explained that the purpose was to
establish a method for community residents, organizations and
businesses to utilize photographic images belonging to the City of
Lake Elsinore. He indicated that there would be an application
process with restrictions and a fee that would include the cost of the
reproduction and a $10 application fee. He further explained that the
$10 would be for staff time.
Councilwoman Kelley noted that the item would be up for review in 6
month, and she did not object to the Policy.
Mayor Pro Tem. Pape stated that he was in favor of the policy.
Councilman Schiffner stated that the City needs to have control of the
photos and he felt that this was a good way to manage the situation.
He noted that there would be a review in 6 months to consider the fee
and stated that he was in favor of the project.
Mayor Brinley stated that she had no problem with the policy.
MOVED BY SCHIFFNER, SECONDED BY KELLEY AND
CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO
APPROVE THE PHOTOGRAPHIC USE POLICY, WITH AN
ADMINISTRATIVE REVIEW OF FEES AND PRACTICES AFTER
SIX MONTHS.
32. Ordinance No. 1065 - Adding Chapter 12.14 to Title 12 of the Lake
Elsinore Municipal Code Establishing Basic Operations of Towing
Service. (F:112.1)(X:162.1)
City Manager Watenpaugh stated that at the Agenda Review Study
Session a request was received to continue this item, until the local
Towing Services have had an opportunity to review the Ordinance.
He noted that the intent of the Towing Ordinance was to create some
type of regulation to address any new towing companies that wish to
move into the area. He noted that there were three existing contracts
with local Towing Companies and this action will not affect those
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contracts until such time as the contracts expire. He noted that the
intent was to address the requests from outside Tow Companies who
wish to do business in the City. He stated that without the Ordinance
it would not be possible to regulate or control the outside services. He
stated that the Ordinance would require that the Tow Company would
submit an application to be reviewed by the City Manager or his
designee and the Police Department. He further stated that the
Ordinance also requires bonding, a City Business License, a
compound for storage as well as covered storage within City Limits,
and the ability to respond to requests for release of vehicles that have
been towed. He noted that Chief Walsh is present to answer
questions.
Dan Uhlry, Town and Country Towing Company, stated that he had
talked to Chief Walsh and noted that he does not have a problem with
continuing the item for a two -week period. He stated that he has been
in communication with the other two Towing Companies in the City
and they would also like the opportunity to study the Ordinance to
determine how it will affect their businesses. He stated that all three
Towing Companies were not against the Ordinance, however they
would like to have the extra time to study it. He stated that all three
companies would like to meet with the City Manager and Chief Walsh
to discuss the Ordinance.
Patti Robinson, LEAR Auto Body and Towing concurred with Mr.
Uhlry's comments and encouraged a meeting with the City Manager
and Chief of Police to discuss the effects the Ordinance will have on
existing businesses.
George Alongi, 649 Mill Street, stated that the only comment he had
regarding the Ordinance was the franchise fee. He noted that the local
Towing Company's vehicles and offices are located in the City, their
employees live locally, and they spend their dollars locally, which
generate revenue for the City. He stated that he does not have a
problem with a franchise fee for a company from outside City, since
they take their income back to where they are located. He stated that
he does not think it would be fair to change the local companies
franchise fees, since they were contributing to the community by
being here.
Police Chief Walsh stated that he has spoken with Mr. Uhlry and
some of the other companies and he has no problem with a
continuance of the Ordinance. He stated that he would be glad to
meet with all the Tow Companies and review the Ordinance.
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Councilman Schiffner stated that since there is no urgency on the
Ordinance, it would be acceptable to continue the item for two weeks
to accommodate the local companies.
Councilwoman Kelley stated that she had no problem with a
continuance to allow the local Tow Companies time to review the
Ordinance and meet with Captain Walsh. She stated that she felt it
was in the best interests of the City.
Mayor Pro Tem Pape stated that he would ask questions when the
item returned to Council.
MOVED BY SCHIFFNER, SECONDED BY KELLEY AND
CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO
CONTINUE CONSIDERATION OF ORDINANCE NO. 1065 ADDING
CHAPTER 12.14 TO TITLE 12 OF THE LAKE ELSINORE
MUNICIPAL CODE, ESTABLISHING BASIC OPERATION OF
TOWING SERVICE TO THE JULY 119 2000, CITY COUNCIL
MEETING.
33. Campground Operations Appropriation. (17:92.1)(X:30.1)
City Manager Watenpaugh explained that during the adoption of the
2000/2001 Budget it was noted that there were no funds set aside for
the Campground Operation with the expectation of having a
concession agreement by July 1. He noted that the proposed
concessionaire has asked for a 60 day due diligence to perform a
feasibility study. He further explained that in order to keep the
Campground open staff is requesting an appropriation of $83,990 for
operation of the campground facility July 1 through September 30,
2000. He noted staff estimates a revenue adjustment of $75,725. City
Manager Watenpaugh stated that subject to a successful negotiated
agreement with the concessionaire, it might be sooner and if the
negotiation is not successful staff will return for further direction.
Dick Knapp, 16450 Monterey Street, stated that the City would be
giving the Campground away and noted that in the past he had asked
the City Manager "Why they didn't get some management in there"
and stated that the Campground has never been managed properly,
since doesn't make money and it should. He stated that years ago
there were 700,000 people that visited the Lake and stated that the
City should have made the park pay -off. He stated that he wished that
staff could find someone to manage the Campground properly.
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City Manager Watenpaugh indicated that years ago the Campground
did make money and it went to the concessionaire, however when it
was generating large amounts of money there were no fish kills or
algae blooms. He explained that it has taken five years of decent
water quality to get back to the point where people are coming back to
the Lake. He indicated that the people that utilize the Lake have told
staff that it has taken a long time for them to return because of the
algae and fish kills. He stated that the City and the Water District
have been working very hard to come to common ground on the water
quality issue and it was the focal point of development of the Lake.
City Manager Watenpaugh stated he felt that trying to find a
competent and qualified concessionaire to operate the Campground
was the way to get good management.
Councilwoman Kelley stated that the issue before Council is for
funding of the Campground for operation and the item that Mr. Knapp
addressed is next on the Agenda. She stated that the City has been
going through the process of finding a competent concessionaire for
the Campground. She indicated that she had no problem with
allocating the money to keep the Campground open.
Councilman Schiffner stated that there has been a misunderstanding
regarding the issue before Council, however the item before Council
is an issue that needs to be addressed and he agrees with the
recommendation.
Mayor Pro Tem Pape stated that he agrees with the speaker and stated
that there is a need for proper management and that is why the City is
in negotiations with a concessionaire. He commented on the
management of the previous concessionaire and noted the unsafe
condition of the park that prompted the City to take the Campground
over. He stated that the City does not want to be in the business of
managing a Campground, and is better left to people that manage
campgrounds on a full time basis. He noted that both the City and the
concessionaire would be going through a due diligence and he felt that
the Campground should remain open.
City Manager Watenpaugh stated that the City is not giving away the
Park. He stated that the Park and Campground would remain in
public ownership and will be open and available to the public.
MOVED BY PAPE, SECONDED BY SCHIFFNER AND CARRIED
BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO APPROPRIATE
$849000 FOR OPERATION OF THE CAMPGROUND FOR JULY 1
THROUGH SEPTEMBER 30, 2000 AS A BUDGET ADJUSTMENT
TO THE 2000 -2001 FISCAL YEAR BUDGET.
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34. Right of Entry Agreement for Potential Campground Concessionaire.
(F:68.1)(X:92.1)
City Manager Watenpaugh stated that during the Campground Study
Session the City received information for a proposal from Reza
Paydar of Sunland RV, a potential concessionaire, it was stated that
they were seeking a 60 day due diligence. He explained that the City
Attorney felt that it would be appropriate to have an agreement for a
Right of Entry. He noted that the City Attorney has prepared a Right
Of Entry Agreement, which does not grant a concession franchise to
Sunland, but does provide entry to the site and the exchange of
information concerning the Lake, for due diligence.
City Attorney Leibold stated that she was available for questions and
noted that this item is for a 60 day due diligence Right of Entry
Agreement to allow the potential concessionaire entry to the site and
protect the City from any interference; damage to the property; and
requires that any work product, feasibility studies, soils studies or
what ever they produce will be copied and provided to the City.
Chris Hyland, 15191 Wavecrest Drive, stated that she was not against
a concessionaire, however she expressed her disfavor of the actions of
the current Council and the previous Councils regarding the
Campground. She stated that they ousted the previous concessionaire
to acquire the Campground to use the Lake to acquire a bond to pay
off the Stadium and stated that she felt that they have ruined the lives
of others to gain possession of the Campground and now the City
cannot even manage it. She criticized the plans of the potential
concessionaire and noted that it was also stated at the Study Session
that the potential concessionaire wished to lease the campground for
75 years, and in real- estate law after 55 years it is considered
purchased property. She read a letter from the State of California
Parks and Recreation referencing the Campground and its uses. She
stated that Council should start thinking about the people in the
community before giving away parks.
Dick Knapp, 16450 Monterey Street, stated that he was concerned
because the City took over the park and then could not manage it. He
stated that this whole process was a give -away including $100,000.
He questioned why, out of all the concessionaires that asked for
information, only one has come forward. He stated that the park
should not be given to anyone for more than five years at best, to
allow the opportunity to see if they could perform. Any longer would
be ridiculous. He noted the necessary traffic report and the waste of
money since it has already been done. He stated that it burns his
behind that Council is giving away the major asset of the City. He
asked if the ex -Mayor was involved in the project; is there a financial
report on the concessionaire; and is Council selling their souls giving
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away the Lake and the Campground. He asked if they wanted to go to
jail, because he was going to fight tooth and nail.
City Manager Watenpaugh noted that it was a shame that people jump
out in front of the City's due diligence and the concessionaire's due
diligence. He noted that it has been said that Council was giving
away the Campground and $100,000. He indicated that there has
been no negotiation with the potential concessionaire for what kind of
a percentage, flat rate, or fee. He further indicated that there has been
no negotiation with the potential concessionaire regarding specific
development that would go into the Campground. He stated that it
was premature to even consider that action until the City and
concessionaire have performed their due diligence. He stated that the
City is fully aware of the Master Plan in 1984 and noted that there are
clauses for the Master Plan to be modified with State approval. He
further stated that there has been no discussion of elimination of any
portion of the Campground. City Manager Watenpaugh stated that it
was amazing to him that anyone could walk down the street and make
a comment and it was gospel. He noted that this entire
misunderstanding occurred because of a discussion of assuring the
Cub Scouts and Boy Scouts would have a place to camp, and from
that it was purported that the City had kicked them out. He stated that
the City has not taken that action and will not. He stated that the ex-
Mayor was not, nor will be involved in this proposal. He noted that
checking the financial background on the proposed concessionaire is
the City's due diligence and until that is done along with several other
fact findings, and there was some type of negotiated agreement, he did
not know if it was public information. He stated that he would agree
with Mayor Pro Tern Pape that management of the Campground has
not been up to par, and indicated that the previous operation of the
Campground was less than adequate and has created the problem
faced by the City. He firmly indicated that the Campground was not
collateral for the bonds and was in black and white.
City Attorney Leibold stated that this is a case of shouting fire in a
crowded theater. She indicated that the document under consideration
is nothing more than 60 -day Right of Entry, to allow a potential
concessionaire access to the Campground to conduct some feasibility
studies and their own due diligence. She stated that the City was well
aware of the conditions when the City accepted the Campgrounds and
parks and stressed that there was no intention to deny public access to
the park or beach. She stated that the City has solicited for others that
may see a vision that the City has for the Campground. She
commented that the Campground is a jewel in the rough and the City's
intent is to provide maximum public access.
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Mayor Brinley asked the City Attorney to explain the difference
between a contract and due diligence.
City Attorney Leibold stated that there is no present action being
considered, nor discussion of terms. She noted that the Campground
was previously improved and then allowed to fall into incredible
disrepair. She indicated that the scope of the project that was
contemplated initially was to bring it back up to allow for more public
use and a better campground facility. She stated that the only item
before City Council was the Right of Entry and License Agreement to
protect the City as the potential concessionaire enters onto the
property to conduct feasibility studies. She explained that at the end
of the 60 -day period if both parties are interested, then negotiations
would begin. She noted that at that time, terms and conditions of
some type of concession agreement would be negotiated. She
explained that a concessionaire had previously operated the
Campground and the City has taken over that role on an interim basis.
She stated that it was the City's long term goal to maximizing
someone's expertise and experience and financial where - with -all to
make an investment in the City to maximize the benefits of the
Campground. She stated that there was nothing negative about the
action of Council.
Mayor Pro Tem stated that he was not sure why people felt compelled
to come to the podium and mislead people, or possibly they just don't
understand the action that Council is considering. He stated that there
was no contract for operation, but rather due diligence for both the
City and the potential concessionaire. He further stated that the issue
regarding the Lake and Campground being used for collateral for the
City to issue bonds, was a lie. He indicated that it is getting old
having people perpetuate that lie. He stated that when Mr. Rassmusen
reports information in the newspaper he has a responsibility, and
when he misleads people, it was also his responsibility to make
corrections in his next article with a public apology. Mayor Pro Tem
Pape stated that the campground has tremendous potential. He noted
that it would be wonderful for people from all over Southern
California, to come to the Campground, in their RVs and campers and
stay in a large facility next to the Lake. He noted that the City's
expectations would incur a lot up -front costs that a concessionaire
would have to provide which would include each campsite having
hook -ups for water, sewer, electrical, phone, and cable T.V.; a club
house with an exercise room; and laundry facilities. He stated that it
would be the type of a place that would encourage snowbirds to
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come to Lake Elsinore and spend months at a time because there
would be facilities and amities to attract them. He further indicated
that in the summer, families could come for a week at a time to enjoy
the Lake and facilities. He stated that it is visualized that the
Campground would again have a boat launch with slips to leave boats
in the water. He commented on how nice it would be to have boats in
the water and not have to launch them daily and he felt this would
enhance the desirability of the Campground. He stated that was what
was suppose to be provided by the previous concessionaire and what
he felt was provided was a campground slum -lord who was milking
the Campground since he only had a few years left on his contract and
he was letting it deteriorate. He noted that the City was trying to
bring the Campground up to a higher standard that the whole
community would be proud of He stated that if the City does have
someone interested in seeing the same vision that they have, they
should have the opportunity for the next 60 days to perform their due
diligence.
Councilwoman Kelley stated that what was before Council was the
Right of Entry to allow the people interested in pursing a concession,
entry to the Campground. She stated that at the Study Session, she
was the one that raised the issue of day campers and she would
continue to address the day camper issue. She stated that Council will
go through the process and if the concessionaire has a proposal, it will
be looked at, at that time. She stated that if day camping was not
possible at the Campground, then she would make it her responsibility
to have another location where those needs would be met. She
indicated that she took exception to Mr. Knapp's comment about an
ex- Mayor. She stated that there are two ex- Mayors sitting on current
Council and countless others off the dais. She further stated that if
Mr. Knapp was going to make a comment about a former Mayor, to
be fair, he should be more specific.
Councilman Schiffner stated that he concurred with Council
comments. He stated that out of all the concessionaires that expressed
interest, only one was in a financial position to move forward. He
noted that the City intends to require quite a lot of money to be
invested, and Sunland has apparently been quite successful in this
type of an operation and has come forward to investigate further. He
noted that they have several other large parks, and noted the one that
they own and operate was in Hemet.
Mayor Brinley stated that when the issue of Day Camping was raised
at the Study Session, Mr. Paydar assured Council that he wished to be
a good community member and would work with Council if they are
able to move forward with the projet. She stated that the investment
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would take approximately $10,000,000 to restore the Campground
and provide extra improvements. She noted that it was always the
same people reminding Council of City's image and now that the
Council is doing something positive by addressing a Campground that
was poorly taken care of by a previous concessionaire, all they can do
was criticize. She explained that the City has already made an
investment to improve the Campground, however it needs a larger
investment to make a success. She noted that was why Council was
seeking a concessionaire that would be willing to invest in the
Campground and make it much better for the public. She stated that
Council wants to make the Campground better, usable and create a
better image for the City. She noted that there are very nice
campgrounds surrounding the City Campground and it should be as
nice or better for the benefits of the Campground's neighbors. She
noted the excitement of the local businesses. Mayor Brinley noted the
amount of people that utilized the Campground years ago and the
campers the City lost when the Campground went downhill. She
stated that it was Council's goal to bring those people back and boost
the local economy to benefit the taxpayer and the local businesses.
She stated that this is a wonderful opportunity for the City and that
she was pleased to have Mr. Paydar show an interest in our City.
MOVED BY SCHIFFNER, SECONDED BY PAPE AND CARRIED
BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO AUTHORIZE
THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE A RIGHT OF ENTRY
AGREEMENT.
35. Interview Committee Member Selection. (17:60.1)
City Manager Watenpaugh stated that it had come to his attention that
Councilman Metze, due to a conflict of schedule, would not be able to
participate in the Planning Commission Interviews. The original
members set for the Interview Committee were Mayor Brinley,
Councilman Metze and Chairman of the Planning Commission
Wilsey. Because of his absence, staff recommends that another
person be appointed to the Committee, or conduct the Interviews with
the two remaining members.
Mayor Brinley stated that she would like to appoint Councilman
Schiffner to the Committee.
City Attorney Leibold explained that this item had been brought to
Council at the Agenda Review at 4:00 p.m. today and Council was
advised that this should be added to the Agenda with a 4 /5ths vote as
an urgency item. She noted that the procedure has been properly
followed to appoint a replacement in the absence of Councilman
Metze.
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MOVE BY KELLEY, SECONDED BY PAPE AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO APPOINT
COUNCILMAN SCHIFFNER TO THE INTERVIEW COMMITTEE
IN PLACE OF COUNCILMAN METZE.
Mayor Brinley stated that the interviews begin at 9:50 a.m., June 28,
2000.
ITEMS PULLED FROM THE CONSENT CALENDAR
5. Approved the contract with LSA Associates to establish a Traffic
Impact/Roadway Fee Program in the amount of $210,000 and
authorize the City Manager to execute the contract. (F: 68.1)(X:162.1)
City Manger Watenpaugh stated that the item is a proposed contract
with LSA Associates to establish a Traffic Impact/Roadway Fee
Program. He explained that the project was funded in the 1999 /2000
Budget in the amount of $150,000 to go back and review a previous
Impact Study that was done several years ago. He stated that the
purpose was to ascertain if the information could be used as a
background support for AB 1600 and having done that, it was
necessary to return to Council for additional funding to complete the
program. City Manager Watenpaugh noted that the entire project was
bid at $210,000 and staff is requesting the remaining $60,000 be
allocated from the 2000/2001 Budget to return to Council with a
Uniform Traffic Mitigation Fee for consideration.
Dick Knapp, 16450 Monterey, stated that he felt that the action before
Council was a travesty and a waste of money. He stated that money
would be spent on something that has been done previously.
City Manager Watenpaugh noted that the City of Lake Elsinore is the
only City or portion of the County that does not have an
Impact/Traffic Mitigation Fee which would pay for street
improvements, signs, and some capital projects. He further noted that
currently the City does have a Mitigation Fee that is $.03 a square foot
for dwelling unit. He indicated that if a person is building a 2,000
square foot home it amounts to $60 to pay for new streets in the City.
He addressed the image of the City and noted our problems with street
repair. He noted a comparison with other cities and stated that the
neighboring city has an $830 Mitigation Fee that includes street
repair, signage, signalization, curbs, gutters and sidewalks. He
indicated that there have been discussions by that municipality to
increase the amount $500 plus, per home, which would be in excess of
$1,100 per home for capital improvements for streets. He stated that
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all the cities in Western Riverside County, including the County have
adopted a Uiform Traffic Mitigation Fee. He indicated that only the
City of Lake Elsinore does not have one. He stated that if the City
does not have a Uniform Traffic Mitigation Fee, the City would not be
able to improve the streets. City Manager Watenpaugh stated that
staff is striving to be equal to the areas around the City, so that there
would not be potholes in the streets.
Councilwoman Kelley stated that she has no problem with the
proposed action.
Mayor Pro Tem. Pape stated that he had problems with this action,
however he would probably vote in favor of the Agreement. He
stated that he was not in favor of imposing additional fees, however in
comparison to other communities it appears that we are way behind.
He indicated that prior to this item returning to Council, he would
want to know exactly what Murrieta, Temecula, Corona and the
County of Riverside charge in the way of the proposed fee and how
we relate to them. He stated that he would also like input from the
local builders and the Building Industry Association.
Councilman Schiffner clarified that what is being discussed was a
one -time fee and is imposed at the time building permits are issued.
He noted that the City currently imposes a fee of $60 for a 2,000 -sq.
ft. house and a neighboring city collects over $800 for the same size
house with a proposal of a substantial increase. He noted that the
action proposed would not be made on the General Taxpayer, but
rather a one time fee, much the same as for schools and the library.
Mayor Brinley indicated that when Council receives the Study for
review, it would then be possible to make a better evaluation of the
situation. She concurred with Mayor Pro Tern Pape and stated that
the builders and the Business Industry Association should be
contacted prior to any decision being made.
MOVED BY SCHIFFNER, SECONDED BY KELLEY AND
CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO
APPROVE THE CONTRACT WITH LSA ASSOCIATES FOR
$210,000 AND AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE
THE CONTRACT.
11. Renewal of Animal Control Agreement - Animal Friends of the
Valleys. (F:68.1)
City Manager Watenpaugh requested that this item be pulled and set
for a Study Session. He indicated that this would give Animal Friends
of the Valley the opportunity to discuss their level of service,
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methodology in assessing their fees, and collection of fees. He stated
that Council has not had a review of this matter, and explained that
rather than going forward and adopting a small increase at this time, it
would be beneficial for Council to fully understand how the fees are
charged and how enforcement is dictated in the community. He stated
that he did not feel that a two -week delay would create a problem and
would give AFV the opportunity to address Council's concerns.
Mayor Pro Tem Pape stated that he had pulled the item because he
had several questions regarding discrepancies and stated that he
lacked information to be able to make a decision to move forward
with the agreement. He stated that he did not know if Council wished
to have a Study Session or have AFV come forward at the Council
Meeting to answer questions. He indicated that a few years ago, it
was brought before Council to license cats and Lake Elsinore is the
only City that does that in Western Riverside County. He questioned
if the City wished to continue to license cats. He noted that Animal
Control Officers canvas door to door and solicit licenses and issued
citations. He questioned that action as well as other actions of Animal
Control that are being billed to the City. He compared the billing for
the City to other areas.
Councilwoman Kelley stated that she felt that there was a need for a
Study Session. She stated that there are complex issues that need to
be examined and discussed.
Mayor Brinley stated that she had issues with the charges billed to the
City.
Mayor Pro Tem Pape noted the cost of their new facility and what
they will assess the City annually. He stated that it will be
approximately $80,000 a year and will double the amount that the
City currently pays. He noted that the new Dog Pound will cost
approximately the same as the new Police Station. He further noted
that the cost of the facility is $4,000,000.
Councilman Schiffner stated that there are special conditions in an
animal shelter that must be considered. He stated that a Study Session
would allow Council to state their concerns and get answers to their
questions.
City Attorney Leibold explained that the item could be continued to a
date specific or it can be deferred to a Study Session to be noticed in a
timely manner.
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MOVED BY PAPE, SECONDED BY SCHIFFNER AND CARRIED
BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO DEFER THE
RENEWAL OF ANIMAL CONTROL AGREEMENT WITH ANIMAL
FRIENDS OF THE VALLEYS TO A STUDY SESSION.
THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING WAS RECESSED AT 8:20 P.M.
THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING RECONVENED AT 8:30 P.M.
PUBLIC COMMENTS - NON AGENDIZED
George Alongi, 649 Mill Street, stated that he would like to have comments
from the Redevelopment Agency Chairman and not the Executive Director.
He stated his agreement with Mayor Pro Tem Pape regarding the cost of the
building for Lake Elsinore Animal Friends and felt that it was too expensive.
He stated that he does not care what they choose to change their name to,
they were funded and started in Lake Elsinore and it was the City's tax
dollars that gave them their start. He indicated that at the last City Council
Meeting Mayor Pro Tem Pape stated that there was no down side on the
financing of the bond, however Mr. Gunn and Mr. Hunt made false
statements to the community and felt that Council did not read any of the
agreements. He objected to the weekly interest adjustment on the bonds and
stated that he did not feel that was wise. He noted that the only thing that
was accomplished was to lower the monthly payment. He indicated that the
way to pay debt was to increase revenue and reduce overhead, not by
refinancing. He noted that no payment has been made to date on the
$14,000,000. He asked where the refinancing will end. He noted the
amount of money spent on staff and studies and questioned the amount of
time that has gone by without a Traffic Mitigation Fee and questioned why it
has not been done before this.
City Manager Watenpaugh stated that staff has brought the Traffic
Mitigation Fee before Council in the past and Council choose not to act on
it.
Dan Uhlry, 150 E. Lakeshore Drive, suggested that the fees for Animal
Control in Temecula was because they do not license cats. He stated that on
July 22, 2000 is the Lake Elsinore Law Enforcement Appreciation Night.
He noted that tickets were on sale for $5 each, and the event was being
sponsored by the Lake Elsinore Posse.
Bill Tucker, AKA "Whiskers ", 740 Acacia, noted a coloring contest and
announced the winners. He noted that it was a good turn out and brought
more awareness to Whiskers and the Lake.
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Becky Nelson, submitted photographs to the Clerk for the City Council and
stated her objection to allowing electricity to vacant property on Lakeshore
Drive. She noted the problems that will be generated and the cost to the tax
payers are fire hazards, traffic hazards, pedestrian problems, shore erosion,
hazard to wildlife and drainage of sewage. She noted the danger to the
environment and most especially the Lake.
Denise Reese- Fleming, 17970 Lakeshore Drive, stated her concern
regarding issuing electrical permits to vacant property owners. She noted
that over the last six years she has witnessed a total disrespect for the land by
the non - resident property owners that have Lakefront property. She noted
that along the Lakefront there are portapotties, storage containers, mounds of
concrete, delapitated docks, crude fencing and junk. She noted the problems
that would occur if vacant property owners gain electricity. She noted the
campground environment it would promote if there are no firm regulations.
She stated that she was not opposed to people having power on their
property, but rather the abuse of the power. She stated that there are areas
around the Lake that are embarrassing and asked why the City cannot
control the Lakefront areas. She asked, once the people get electricity, what
would prevent them from long term residence. She asked why the City
allows permits for electricity without asking "what and how" the electricity
will be used. She stated that the Lake area should be cleaned up, not adding
insult to injury. She stated that she felt that that people are encouraged to do
anything they want in Lake Elsinore because nothing will happen to them.
She stated that as a community the citizens and City could pull together and
embellish the land and improve Lakeshore Drive. She asked that everyone
work together to improve the Jewel of the Desert and make a better Lake
Elsinore.
Tim Fleming, 17970 Lakeshore Drive, commented on electrical hook -up on
vacant land. He stated that there are many desirable view lots in the City
that would make great camping sites, however it would not be appropriate
use in most cases. He further stated that he felt that electric hook -ups on
vacant land would lead to mobile residency and explained that it could lead
to camping with trailers and RVs which create sanitation issues, vagrancy, a
total variety of camping vehicles and equipment, storage units. He noted the
traffic and Code Enforcement problems that would occur. He stated that
there would be little economic value to allowing the electrical hook -up and
would do nothing but continue the bad reputation that Lake Elsinore has had.
He further stated that without existing restrictions pertaining to electricity on
vacant land he asked that the City Council impose a moratorium until the
issues are addressed.
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Dan Stinson, 17886 Lakeshore Drive, stated his objection to Temporary
Electric Service Permits for vacant property on Lakeshore Drive. He stated
that he is not opposed to people making use of their property, however he
does object to trailers, RVs and campers parking on the property with no
time limit. He commented that he feels that it detracts from the appeal of the
whole community as well as the property owners along Lakeshore. He
noted that in his opinion, in the long run unrestricted camping would bring
down property values. He requested that Council allow further
consideration of this matter, and not issue any permits until they have had
the opportunity to review the issues.
Chris Hyland, 15191 Wavecrest Drive, noted that the Committee for
Districts is still circulating a petition. She stated that the Committee would
ask for a Special Election. She invited the public to call her if they needed a
location where signatures are being collected. She noted the scare tactics
that Mayor Pro Tern Pape and Councilman Metze used by saying that the
petition would betaken to a judge to review. She noted that the Committee
has been working very hard. She noted that Council has stated that it would
cost a lot of money for an election, however if the public added up the cost
of the various trips taken by the Mayor, City Manager and other
Councilmembers it would amount to a great deal of money. She stated that
Council does not have the right to dictate how the taxpayer wants to spend
money and an election is the taxpayer's privilege. She invited Council to
resign if they did not like it.
CITY MANAGER COMMENTS
City Manager Watenpaugh commented on the following:
1. Thanked the Flemings, Mr. Stinson, and Ms. Nelson for their
comments. He stated that they have contacted staff and staff was in
the process of working with the City Attorney's office to try to tighten
the regulations for uses on Lakefront property without infringing on
personal property rights. He stated that staff agrees that the Lake is a
Jewel and there is a need to improve the water's edge as well as water
quality. He stated that Mr. Fleming notified the City of illegal
dumping that occurred over a weekend on the Beach side of
Lakeshore Drive and that property has been dealt with. He noted the
constructive and positive way the community can help Council and
staff resolve some of the issues and he stated his appreciation.
CITY ATTORNEY COMMENTS
Announced the five matters of Closed Session discussion as listed on the
Agenda.
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COMMITTEE REPORTS
None.
CITY COUNCIL COMMENTS
Councilman Schiffner commented on the
Commented that he had no intention of getting into an argument with
anyone in the audience and he would not try to explain anything to
someone that he does not believe would understand or believe his
explanation. He stated that he would respond to anyone who poses a
question that he believes justifies a response.
2. Noted the Fleming's comments and stated that he too was appalled by
some of the things that were happening along the Lakefront. He
indicated that the City Manager and staff would move forward and try
to establish regulations that would not infringe on people rights. He
stated his confidence in staff s ability to work out some type of
regulation that would satisfy both the City and the property owner.
He stated that the ultimate intention is for the City to own the
Lakefront properties.
Mayor Pro Tem Pape commented on the following:
Congratulated Serena Sostre, a student at Terra Cotta Middle School
for her achievement as State Champion of History Day. He noted that
she has just returned from Washington D.C. where she competed and
placed second in the Nationals. He suggested that the City invite
Serena to the next Council Meeting to share some of her adventures.
2. Thanked Mr. French for his donation and noted that Elsinore is
spelled Helsignor in Denmark.
3. Stated to prevent misinformation, he explained the bond process and
explained that the total bond payments have to be less than the ones
that were being replaced. He stated that this was a law.
4. Noted the comments by Mr. Fleming. He stated that staff is working
on the problem and explained that hopefully there will be something
to present at the next meeting.
5. Stated that there were inquires regarding the old T.P. Ranch and stated
that the City has been working with the property owner clear the
unsafe building on the property as well as the old metal building. He
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indicated that Council would like to give the property owner the
opportunity to take care of the matter. He noted that if the property
has not been abated by the middle of July, then the City would
proceed with abatement.
6. Noted that at the Riverside County Transportation Commission
Budget Meeting, it was approved to add to the next meeting's Consent
Calendar Grant Money to install sidewalks near Railroad Canyon
Elementary School. He stated that the total project cost would be
approximately $80,000 and the Grant is for $72,000. He noted that it
would be well worth the $8,000 to gain new sidewalks in that area.
7. Addressed the District issue and noted that there have been articles in
the newspapers. He stated that the population of Lake Elsinore is
approximately 30,000 and in neighboring area there are no Districts.
He stated that it was usually something that was reserved for very
large cities because the population was so large that it would be hard
for one person to interact with hundreds of thousands of people. He
noted that the City of Lake Elsinore does not have that problem and
explained the negative of dividing the City and causing a problem
with Capital Improvements and the ineffectiveness of bringing politics
into projects that should be considered City Wide. He stated that it
was this Council's goal to improve the City and by splitting into
Districts it would undermine the effectiveness of the Council. He
noted that in the last City Council Election 2,741 people voted and
divide the number by four districts, it would create a situation where
250 to 300 votes would elect someone and does not make sense. He
noted that the City is not large enough to split and all of Council is
available to the public. He reminded the public that it would still
require 3 votes to pass an issue no matter how the Council was
selected. Mayor Pro Tem Pape noted the concern expressed by the
District Committee regarding the Council seeking legal advice or an
opinion from a judge. He stated that he felt that would be the prudent
to seek an expert opinion to find out if an initiative would stand -up to
a legal challenge. He stated that it was Council's fiduciary
responsibility to make sure that it will meet legal requirements since it
must go to a vote of the people. He noted that the problem with the
initiative is that it does not have proposed boundaries and asked how
this will be accomplished; noted State Law sets Council terms at 4
years, and the Committee is proposing to change it to 2 years and is in
conflict with State Law; and the Single Subject issue which requires
that when a proposition is placed on the ballot it must address one
issue at a time and not lump all the issues together. He further noted
that Council does have concerns and he wished to make the public
aware of what Council's concerns were.
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Mayor Brinley commented on the following:
Congratulated Serena Sostre for her accomplishment of being first in
the State for History Day and second in Nationals. She asked that the
City Clerk provide a proclamation for the next meeting.
2. Commended Harvey French and his late wife for being such good
members of the community and thanked him for the donation of the
picture of Kronberg Castle in Helsignor, Denmark. She stated that the
picture will be hung in City Hall for the entire community to enjoy.
Thanked Mr. Flemming for sharing his concerns and stated that the
City must be sensitive to the property owners rights, however she
agreed that something should be done to assure the proper use and
care of the City's Lakefront property. She stated that it has been a
concern of the City as well.
4. Stated that the play "Oliver" from Butterfield Elementary School was
wonderful and noted that the play was done in a very professional
manner. She stated that the entire cast gave each part their all. She
noted that it could be viewed on Visions and Views each Monday at
7:30 p.m., for the month of July and congratulated each and every
person that worked on the play and well as the actors for a job well
done.
Stated that the Car Classic last Saturday was great. She noted that
there were at least 300+ people that enjoyed the event.
6. Again congratulated George McDonough for Business of the Quarter.
She noted that he does the graffiti program for the City as well and
does a great job.
7. Announced the upcoming events.
1. Open Air Market - July 2, 2000 - 8:00 a.m. to 3:00 p.m. on Main
Street.
2. Annual Chili Cook off will be at the Open Air Market.
3. 4th of July entertainment will be at the Diamond Stadium on
Tuesday, July 4, 2000, 5:30 p.m. to 9:30 p.m., $4 admission and
children under 3 are free.
4. Canyon Lake Wakeboard Competition, July 8th, on the Inlet
Channel.
5. INT Wakeboard, Kneeboard and Waterski Races, July 22nd and
23rd, on the Inlet Channel
6. Canyon Lake Wakeboard Competition, August 12th, on the Inlet
Channel.
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7. INT Wakeboard, Kneeboard and Waterski Races, August 19th and
20th, on
the Inlet Channel.
8. 2000 Flight Worlds of Hydrofoiling, September 6th - 10`x', on the
Inlet Channel.
9. Canyon Lake Wakeboard Competition, September 16th, on the
Inlet Channel.
10. National Waterski Racing Association Circle Race, September
23`d and 24th.
11. Vans WWA Wakeboard and World Championships, October 5th -
8th, on the Inlet Channel.
12. Canyon Lake Wakeboard Competition, October 14th, on the Inlet
Channel.
8. Thanked and congratulated Gabe Rivera for his poem.
9. Addressed the Districts and stated that she wished to speak on behalf
of the City Attorney and City Clerk, who have worked very hard on
this initiative. She indicated that they have told the Committee
several times that they needed to seek legal counsel to assist in writing
the initiative for the ballot and noted that the initiative that appeared
on the March ballot was found invalid for some of the same reasons
that were noted this evening.
10. Wished everyone a safe and wonderful 4th of July.
CLOSED SESSION
A. CONFERENCE WITH LEGAL COUNSEL -- EXISTING
LITIGATION (Subdivision (a) of section 54956.9) Williams v. City
of Lake Elsinore (4th Appellate Case # E024487); Williams and
Hassan v. City of Lake.Elsinore (4th Appellate District Case #
E025201)
B. CONFERENCE WITH LEGAL COUNSEL -- ANTICIPATED
LITIGATION Significant exposure to litigation pursuant to
subdivision (b) of section 54956.9: (1 potential cases)
C. CONFERENCE WITH REAL PROPERTY NEGOTIATOR ( Gov't
Code §54956.8)
Property: Assessor's Parcel No. 370 - 040 -028
Negotiating parties: Ely Kass and the City of Lake Elsinore
Under negotiation: price and terms of payment.
D. CONFERENCE WITH REAL PROPERTY NEGOTIATOR ( Gov't
Code §54956.8)
Property: Assessor's Parcel Nos. 370 - 040 -030, 370 - 040 -031, 370-
040 -001
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Negotiating parties: Saykr Inc. and the City of Lake Elsinore
Under negotiation: price and terms of payment
E. CONFERENCE WITH REAL PROPERTY NEGOTIATOR ( Gov't
Code §54956.8)
Property: Assessor's Parcel No. 365- 030 -001
Negotiating parties: Denis Trudeau et al. and the City of Lake
Elsinore
Under negotiation: price and terms of payment
THE CITY COUNCIL WAS RECESSED AT 9:15 P.M.
THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING RECONVENED AT 10:24 P.M.
CITY COUNCIL DIRECTED SPECIAL LEGAL COUNSEL TO FILE
A PETITION FOR REHEARING WITH THE 4TH DISTRICT
APPELLATE COURT (Mayor Brinley, Mayor Pro Tem Pape,
Councilmembers Kelley and Schiffner voting in favor; No dissenting
votes; Councilman Metze absent).
ADJOURNMENT
MOVED BY BRINLEY, SECONDED BY PAPE AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO ADJOURN THE
REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETDW -,AT 10:25 P.M.
PAMELA/BRIM
CITY OF LAKE
ATTEST:
A L. BRY ING, PUTY Y CLERK
CT_CY OF LAKE ELSINORE