HomeMy WebLinkAbout01-07-1998 NAHMINUTES OF
LAKE ELSINORE PLANNING COMMISSION
JANUARY 7, 1998
THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE LAKE ELSINORE PLANNING COMMISSION
SCHEDULED FOR JANUARY 7,1998, WAS CALLED FOR LACK OF AGENDA ITEMS.
Respectfully submitted,
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Linda Grmdstaff
Recording Secretary
MINUTES
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
JANUARY 21, 1998
The Planning Commission was called to order at 7:00 p.m. by Chairman Wilsey.
The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Commissioner Schiffner.
ROLL CALL:
PRESENT: COMMISSIONERS:
SANDS, SCHIFFNER, MATTHIES AND
WILSEY
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS:
BARNES
Also present were: Senior Planner Villa, City Engineer O'Donnell, City Attorney Leibold and
Deputy City Clerk Bryning.
PUBLIC COMMENTS
Virginia Matino, 980 Parkway, commented on the cost of Media One and the need for
competition.
There being no requests to speak the Public Comment Section was closed.
CONSENT CALENDAR
MOVED BY SCHIFFNER, SECONDED BY SANDS AND CARRIED BY A VOTE OF 3-0
WITH MATTHIES ABSTAINING TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR AS
PRESENTED.
1. Minutes
a. Planning Commission Regular Meeting of -December 17, 1997
b. Planning Commission Regular Meeting -January 7, 1998
PUBLIC HEARINGS
2. Conditional Use Permit 96-8 -Lake Elsinore Championship Motocross (Tony Bro dg on)
Senior Planner Villa explained that the request is to allow the establishment of a
temporary motocross training facility within the Eastlake Specific Plan Area. He noted
that the applicant has requested a continuance to February 4, 1998, due to conflicts in
scheduling, and staff recommends consideration of this request.
MOVED BY SANDS, SECONDED BY MATTHIES AND CARRIED BY A VOTE
OF 4-0 TO CONTINUE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 96-8 TO THE MEETING
OF FEBRUARY 4, 1998.
3. Suecific Plan 93-3 Amendment No. 1 (Liberty) - TMC Communities
Senior Planner Morita provided a brief background on the approval of the original East
Lake Specific Plan in 1993. He stated the plan at that time encompassed 3,000 acres and
proposed a Mixed Use Community consisting of residential, commercial and open space
uses. The Specific Plan Amendment No. 1, Liberty area, comprises the Phase I portion
of that East Lake Plan approved by the City in 1993, and includes 784 acres near the
southwest corner of Malaga Street and Mission Trail. Specific Plan Amendment No. 1
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proposes to consolidate and reconfigure portions of the project azea for purposes of
increasing the amount of open space and reduce the intensity of residential and
commercial uses. This plan would provide 201 acres of residential, 71 acres of
commercial and 22 acres of mixed use and 439 acres of open space. Senior Planner
Morita stated that there have not been many issues because the project is environmentally
sensitive and proposes less intensive development. He stated the conditions of approval
have been revised and distributed to the Commission this evening. He then noted for the
record that a letter has been received and distributed from Chris Kucard regazding the
project. Senior Planner Morita stated that staff believes Specific Plan Amendment No.
1 is an improvement over the previous plan therefore recommends the Planning
Commission recommend to City Council approval of Addendum to the 1993 certified
Final EIR for the East Lake Specific Plan; and approval of Amendment No. 1 to the East
Lake Specific Plan by adoption of Resolution No. 98-1, based on the Findings listed in
the Staff Report and the Revised Condiflons of Approval.
Chairman Wilsey opened the public hearing at 7:08 p.m. asking for those wishing to
speak on the matter.
Todd Olson, President of TMC Communities, 4100 MacArthur Blvd., Newport Beach,
stated this is the first of a number of approvals that will come before the Commission
with respect to the Liberty project. Mr. Olson stated that team members are present this
evening to answer any questions.
Steve Ross, The Planning Center, consultant for Liberty, stated that of the 3,000 acres the
area proposed for amendment is 784 acres. Since 1993 the market demand has changed
and as a way to conform to that mazket and to insure the project's success certain parts
of the first phase is proposed for modification. He stated that to respond to the mazket
the incorporation of a new approach to neighborhood design has been proposed, referred
to as neo-traditional neighborhood design or new urbanism. He stated that a variety
design detail is proposed which will reflect the neo-traditional idea which is intended to
provide smaller scale, pedestrian friendly and attractive neighborhoods. Mr. Ross noted
the refinements proposed to street alignments. He stated the open space within the
amendment is proposed to accommodate an 18-hole championship golf course, a 200-foot
wide multi-species habitat corridor along the alignment of the San Jacinto River, and a
general open space area to the west of the river channel.
Susan Horie, 19100 Von Karmen, Irvine, Counsel for TMC, stated that there are two
documents that are being reviewed, Specific Plan Amendment and the Addendum to the
EIR. Because of the reduction in density and reconfiguration of land uses described
tonight, a number of the environrnental impacts originally anticipated for the proposed
project has been reduced and the analysis of the reduction of the impacts was conducted
as part of the Addendum process. Ms. Horie stated that she wanted to clarify that after
the Commission takes its action that the Addendum with the Final EIR will be forwazded
to City Council for its consideration and that as part of Council deliberation that the City
will readopt the Findings originally made in 1993 for this project and impose the
mitigation measures that were originally adopted by the City Council to insure that the
impacts can be mitigated to the greatest extent feasible, and that those mitigation
measures will be revised in accordance with the changes and modifications that were
described in the Addendum.
Tom Jessup stated that he owns property in the area and in favor of the project. He
stated that TMC contacted him and assured him that with the involvement of his practice,
being relocated possibly, with their plan as it is now to relocate the existing Diamond
Drive to a new location that remedial measures will be taken; so that hopefully the
veterinazian practice will not face disruption. Mr. Jessup stated that he has received
nothing that will insure that these processes will take place in a structural time to allow
relocation, and asked if the Commission could somehow put a tail on this. Mr. Jessup
stated that he supports the project and believes it to be good for the community.
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Chris Hyland stated that she was neither for nor against the project. Asking questions on
behalf of Edith Stafford who could not be here this evening. Ms. Stafford received a
letter that said there were changes in the plan that would be a detriment or not a
detriment to her property and she wanted to know what that was and she lives at the end
of Elm Street. What is the plan for purchasing the property, will it be cash? Has TMC
furnished financial statements to the City? For months TMC has been coming up here
with all of these maps, pictures of Coronado Hotel--do they actually have plans? How
are they going to purchase property? They should not take money from the City.
Peter Dawson, 18010 Grand Avenue, stated that he has not seen the scope of this
particular project, but in Southern California it is difficult to perceive constructing
anything of a permanent nature in a water storage basin. Eastlake is lake and it has been
part of our lake at times, high water times in the past, and it can be built up higher and
resist flood level, but the capacity of the storage basin is diminished. Mr. Dawson stated
that he does not expect to stop the project at the 11th hour and as it proceeds will support
it as he can. For the record, here is one public citizen, and Riverside County Flood
Control Commissioner for this area who says that construction of dwellings in the
floodplain is a bad idea. Mr. Dawson stated that he is grateful that the number of
dwellings is decreased; however, would call to your attention to the reduction of housing
units and acreage decrease and the result is slightly higher density than previously
planned.
Alex Much stated that he owns land in the area, and asked if there has been any thought
about continuing Diamond Way over to Grand Avenue. Mr. Much stated that he does
not know how the ground will be stabilized to hold that many buildings, but not an
engineer, and does not know if he would want to buy a house next to a baseball stadium
believes recreational would be better. Mr. Much stated that not continuing Diamond Way
over to Grand is a big error, and it should be an elevated street with ofF-ramps.
Chairman Wilsey asked for anyone else wishing to speak on the matter. Hearing none,
the public heazing was closed at 7:29 p.m.
Chairman Wilsey requested that TMC's engineers meet with Mr. Dawson and show him
what is being done. With regard to traffic circulation hopefully you will be able to deal
with the local people that have concerns.
Commissioner Schiffner stated his concerns were primarily administrative and the
revisions suggested as part of the revised conditions address these concerns.
Commissioner Sands asked Mr. Ross if the neighborhood design included a guard gated
community. Mr. Ross stated they have not designed guazd gate mechanisms into the plan
at this point, this would occur in conjunction with the tentative mapping for individual
neighborhoods. Commissioner Sands asked if the reduction in density in this project was
due to anticipated future market conditions. Mr. Ross stated that the reduction density
and development acreage generally was accomplished in order to balance or satisfy a
variety of competing objectives including market consideration for housing- as well as golf
in addition to solving some of the concerns expressed in teens of providing for
satisfactory flood storage capacity as well as developable land. Commissioner Sands
referred to the EIR Addendum -short term noise levels -asked if the stadium area was
taken into consideration. Mr. Ross responded in the affirmative, and explained that no
figures were provided in terms of specific noise projections; however, within the Specific
Plan Amendment area there aze no residential parcels abutting the stadium, it is
surrounded by general commercial designations.
Commissioner Matthies inquired about the airport and its relocation. Senior Planner
Morita explained that Skylark Airport is in an area outside Specific Plan Amendment No.
1 and will be addressed at a later phase. Commissioner Matthies referred to Mr. Jessup's
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business and stated that she would like to see something to assure they are treated fairly.
Chairman Wilsey stated that in this document it is premature, there aze concerns with not
only Dr. Jessup but with other businesses that might be affected with the project.
Chairman Wilsey stated this amendment will not affect Dr. Jessup and where TMC and
other developers will have to address thisproblem and work with Dr. Jessup will be when
it is closer to the tract map phase, phasing in off-site improvements.
Senior Planner Morita explained that what is before the Commission this evening is the
basic entitlement for this area. The Specific Plan Amendment is really a zoning level
document that provides guidance and standards for future development. TMC will not
develop the entire site in one phase and this means they will be going through a
subdivision process, filing and approval of future tentative maps, so these issues will be
coming out as we go through the process.
Commissioner Matthies stated she was informed that this would be a public golf course
and referred to the possibility of a gated community and asked how this would affect the
public golf course. Mr. Ross stated the golf course is proposed as an open to the public
facility, more than likely commercially managed, but available to the public on a green
fee basis, it is not proposed as a private or membership facility. Any guazd gate that
might be proposed would be consistent with that goal, in other words would not preclude
access by the general public to the golf course.
Chairman Wilsey commended staff for their work and hopes the TMC group has been
satisfied in working with staff. Chairman Wilsey asked Mr. Olson if he had reviewed the
revised conditions and if there were any questions, problems or concerns. Mr. Olson
stated that he has not personally read them, but confident that his staff has and with the
comments that legal counsel has made on CEQA we are satisfied with the documents.
City Attorney Leibold referred to Resolution 98-1, Section 3, and suggested for
clarification the following verbiage be added: "... and recommends that the City Council
certify the Final EIR and Addendum based upon the facts and findings in the staff report
and presented at the public heazing."
Chairman Wilsey stated that staff and TMC has worked closely together and TMC was
very open with Commission members and met one-on-one appreciates the cooperation.
MOVED BY MATTHIES, SECONDED BY SCHIFFNER AND CARRIED BY A
VOTE OF 4-0 TO RECOMMEND TO CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL OF
ADDENDUM TO THE 1993 CERTIFIED FINAL EIR FOR THE EAST LAKE
SPECIFIC PLAN; AND APPROVAL OF AMENDMENT NO. 1 TO THE EAST
LAKE SPECIFIC PLAN BY ADOPTION OF RESOLUTION N0.98-1, BASED ON
THE FINDINGS LISTED IN THE STAFF REPORT AND THE 13 REVISED
CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL.
Condition 1: The Draft SPA No. 1 document shall be revised to incorporate any
corrections and revisions required by the Planning Commission and City
Council. A Final Specific Plan Amendment document shall be submitted
for review and approval by the Community Development Director or his
designee within 30 5 days of approval by the City Council. No permit
shall be issued until the Specific Plan Amendment No. 1 document and
any required revisions are administratively approved by the Community
Development Director or his designee.
Condition 3: D~~- `~ ~~-••---~ ~` R_°a:.... --~~--~«~ Any development within SPA No. 1
and any other area within the East Lake area below 1,260 feet MSL shall
comply with conditions of the 404 Levee Permit. Conditions of the permit
shall require dedications for conservation purposes, further analyses, and
clearances from the Riverside County Flood Control District, Water
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Conservation District, U.S. Army Corps of Engineers, Riverside County,
and the City of Lake Elsinore Engineering Department, all as set forth in
the 404 Levee Permit. Constmction within the SPA No. 1 site may also
require a Section 401 Water Quality Certification from the Santa Ana
Regional Water Quality Board and issuance of a conditional letter of
revision to the existing Flood Insurance Rate Map (FIRM) €rerr~-the
F':,d:,ra~ °-~-..-_..-_-- ""....,...,.-.-,...« ^ ,.,...,.-, 'L'°*"". from the applicant.
Condition 4: Any ..°.c~u-ictcd ;ice°' ~«_..,.« ........., ,.r _ tentative tract map, which
includes proposed Restricted Local Streets shall be approved by the City
Council of the City of Lake Elsinore.
Condition 5: The Diamond Drive realignment at Malaga Road shall provide southbound
dual right-turn lanes and eastbound dual left-turn lanes at East Malaga
Road at Diamond Drive; and westbound dual left-turn lanes and
northbound dual right-turn lanes at West Malaga Road at Diamond Drive.
These intersections shall be signalized, or shall incorporate other
controls.
Condition 6: All public street sections shall have either pedestrian walking area or
sidewalks, with a minimum width of five feet, unless otherwise approved
by the Community Development Director or designee.
Condition 7: Eac'~~=:e:'.-.., «~..c:. c'.:w'.' : ~c u':c C'« .:ith ., tr:f~,. a ,,
::aF . i..`; ~ ..y ' .zv-vein' axa~
.,...« .....,:,.°'.... «,...«..«:°,. ~...,.* .,,.... Prior to first tentative tract map for
each phase, the applicant shall provide the City with a phased
circulation plan for onsite and offsite improvements for that phase.
Condition 12: The SPA No. 1 document shall be revised to indicate that future
Design Review shall be reviewed and approved by the Planning
Commission as a business item and not a public hearing.
Condition 13: Concurrent with approval of the first Type "A" Tentative Tract Map
for SPA No. 1, the applicant shall prepare a Conceputal Phasing,
Improvement, and Financing Plan. Said plan shall describe all on-and
offsite roadway and utility improvements necessary to service ultimate
buildout of SPA No. 1. Said plan shall also describe when the
improvements will be provided and recommend feasible funding
mechanisms and sources.
RESOLUTION NO. 98-1
A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF
THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA
RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF AMENDMENT NO. 1
TO THE EAST LAKE SPECIFIC PLAN AND ADDENDUM
TO THE FINAL EIR FOR THE EAST LAKE SPECIFIC
PLAN -LIBERTY (TMC COMMUNITIES)
At this time, 7:45 p.m., the Commission recessed.
At this time, 7:50 p.m., the Commission reconvened.
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BUSINESS ITEMS
4. Residential Proiect 97-3 - Linwav Development
Senior Planner Villa explained the request is for Design Review of six model homes for
Tract 20704 and plotting for Phase One. Staff identified several problems related to off-
site construction that the applicant was not aware of and staff is asking for a continuance
to the meeting of February 4, 1998, to give the applicant more defined conditions of
approval on the obligations of the tract.
MOVED BY SCHIFFNER, SECONDED BY MATTHIES AND CARRIED BY A
VOTE OF 4-0 TO CONTINUE RESIDENTIAL PROJECT 97-3 TO THE
MEETING OF FEBRUARY 4, 1998.
ADJOURNED TO DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE
The Planning Commission adjourned to the Design Review Committee at 7:47 p.m.
The Planning Commission reconvened at 7:48 p.m.
PLANNING COMMENTS
Senior Planner Villa informed the Commission that City Council wishes to hold a Joint Study
Session with the Design Review Committee to discuss some issues that have come up.
PLANNING COMMISSIONER'S COMMENTS
Commissioner Matthies
Congratulated staff on the TMC project, did a wonderful job.
Commissioner Sands
Stated concurrence with Commissioner Matthies.
Vice Chairman Schiffner
No comment.
Chairman Wilsev
Requested that the fencing standards be reviewed as they are outdated.
Commissioner Barnes
Absent
ADJOURNMENT
MOVED BY SCHIFFNER, SECONDED BY MATTHIES AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO ADJOURN THE REGULAR PLANNING
COMMISSION MEETING AT 7:55 P.M.
Respectfully Submitted,
MINUTES
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
FEBRUARY 4, 1998
The Planting Commission was called to order at 7:00 p.m. by Chairman Wilsey.
The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Commissioner Barnes.
ROLL CALL:
PRESENT: COMMISSIONERS: SANDS, BARNES, SCHIFFNER, MATTHIES
AND WILSEY
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
Also present were: Senior Planner Villa, Senior Planner Morita, Assistant Planner Miller, City
Engineer O'Donnell and Deputy City Clerk Bryning.
PUBLIC COMMENTS
There being no requests to speak the Public Comment Section was closed.
CONSENT CALENDAR
MOVED BY SANDS, SECONDED BY SCHIFFNER AND CARRIED BY A VOTE OF 4-0
WITH BARNES ABSTAINING TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR AS
PRESENTED.
1. Minutes
a. Planning Commission Regular Meeting -January 21, 1998
PUBLIC HEARINGS
2. Conditional Use Permit 96-8 -Lake Elsinore Championship Motocross (Tony Broedonl
Continued from January 21, 1998
Senior Planner Villa explained the request is to allow the establishment of a temporary
Motocross racing and training facility within the back basin, approximately 90 acres in
the East Lake Specific Plan Area, at Corydon and Cereal Streets adjacent to the existing
Airport. He stated the proposal is being processed as a temporary use as allowed by
Section 7.2.8 of the East Lake Specific Plan and proposes three tracts: apee-wee track,
a mid-size track, an oval tract, and includes visitor parking, temporary viewing azeas,
portable restrooms, picnic azeas, and the perimeter of the site will be enclosed by
chainlink fencing. He explained the proposal will include minor grading along the 1250-
1260 elevation to allow for the placement of temporary office/storage facility.
Senior Planner Villa noted the concern on noise, air quality, traffic, and hours of
operation. He stated the applicant was required to prepaze a noise study that addresses
the noise impacts associated with the operation of the tract. He stated that Air Quality
impacts will be mitigated by requiring the applicant to comply with Rules 401-403 of the
South Coast Air Quality Management District, and traffic issues will be addressed by the
preparation of a Congestion Management Plan, which is to be approved by the City
Engineer. He stated the applicant proposes to operate Tuesdays thrn Saturdays 8:00 a.m.
to 9:00 p.m. and Sundays from 8:00 a.m. to dusk; however, due to the absence of lighting
staff suggests limiting the operations to 8:00 a.m. to dusk daily. For events, the applicant
did not provide enough information to provide an assessment, therefore a condition was
added requiring compliance with Section 5.73 of the Municipal Code.
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Senior Planner Villa refereed to condition number 2 and requested the words "driving
range" be changed to "Motocross", and that condition number 15 be changed to read:
Unless conditions 16, 17, 18, and 19 are satisfied... He then stated that staff recommends
the Commission consider the Motocross as an interim use.
Chairman Wilsey opened the public hearing at 7:08 p.m. asking for those wishing to
speak on the matter.
Mr. Tony Brogdon, 290 Wilson Avenue, Perris, President of Lake Elsinore Championship
Motocross, provided a brief description of the sport, and introduced their Webb site. He
stated that providing a recreational activity such as Motocross has proven to provide an
activity that involves the whole family working together. Mr. Brogdon stated that Lake
Elsinore Championship will be safely designed, professionally ran and safety will be a top
priority. He stated that Lake Elsinore needs to preserve quality recreation as a national
resource. He stated their goal is to establish a professional and safe presence in Lake
Elsinore, with plans to be mobile and as housing begins plans are to move to a permanent
facility and want it to be in Lake Elsinore.
Robert Cantenina, 18400 Grand, stated the Motocross track won't make as much noise
as the Stadium fireworks. Hopes this is approved as the community really needs it and
it will be beneficial for the kids.
Greg Burrow, 309 Date Street, stated that he has been a rider for 30 yeazs and it would
be beneficial for the City to have a facility. He stated Southern California is one of the
biggest areas in the United States for having the number of riders and talent. This facility
would be beneficial financially and economically to the City as well as being family
oriented. In favor of this being approved.
Norma Hamby, 27450 River Road, stated there are a lot of single parents raising kids and
found this a great way to keep kids on track and out of trouble.
Brent Minor, 29140 Melbe Drive, stated that he lives in the Grove and there aze a lot of
bikers that come out there to practice and there have been numerous accidents and it is
becoming more dangerous. Believes this facility will provide a safe place for the young
people and older people. In favor of this project.
Darlene Hamblin, 23083 Trilling Drive, Wildomaz, stated that a lot of the professional
Motocross riders grow up and live in the azea and support the community. This facility
will provide a safe and controlled environment. This is a family sport and in favor of this
project.
Kelly Pitzel, Morango, stated that he has been racing since he was 12 and traveled the
county for the Nationals. He stated there was no legal place in the area to ride and a
place is needed where kids can ride legally. This is a good family sport and hopes this
track is approved.
Jim Pennington, 3110 Sangstron Drive, commented on the excitement created for the kids
when racing. This track will be well managed and ran. This is a good family sport and
hopes this track is approved.
Chairman Wilsey asked for anyone else wishing to speak on the matter. Heazing none,
the public hearing was closed at 7:29 p.m.
Chairman Wilsey asked Mr. Brogdon if he had reviewed the Conditions of Approval and
if there were any questions or concerns. Mr. Brogdon stated he reviewed the Conditions
of Approval and concur.
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Commissioner Schiffner referred to condition number 2 and stated that he would like to
see the revocation of the permit more cleazly defined. Senior Planner Villa explained that
staff does not know when the residential development (Liberty plan) will start so the
condition was left open. Mr. Brogdon stated that it is their intent be long term, but not
necessarily at this property. Commissioner Schiffner asked Mr. Brogdon if he was happy
with the wording of condition number 2. Mr. Brogdon responded in the affirmative.
Commissioner Schiffner stated that he hopes everyone interested in this project realizes
this is a temporary use at this location.
Chairman Wilsey stated concurrence with Commissioner Schiffner on condition number
2 and suggested verbiage be added after the word City "would adversely affect the
Motocross site". Mr. Brogdon stated that they will be relocated once a family moves in.
Senior Planner Villa stated that a sentence can be added to condition 2, to read: If and
when it is determined that a building permit is being issued within the 2,000 foot radius
contour the operation shall cease upon issuance of Certificate of Occupancy for that
home. Commissioner Schiffner stated that he would not like to see this established at a
distance would like it on a time basis--when homes are put up for sale.
Commissioner Matthies stated that as long as the applicant concurs with the Conditions
of Approval she is happy to see such a well planned track go in.
Commissioner Bames stated this is a good plan and asked if there were plans for
concessions on the site, and if additional permits would be required. Mr. Brogdon
responded in the affirmative and stated the concessions would be portable. Senior Planner
Villa stated this area is under FEMA so any structure would be required to be placed
above the 1265 elevation. Commissioner Barnes asked about sanitation facilities. Mr.
Brogdon stated that porta-potties are planned right now. Commissioner Barnes referred
to condition 4 and stated that he would like to see no night operations allowed. Senior
Planner Villa explained that condition 4 covers major events, such as National
Championships and that night operations could be held if proper measures aze taken.
Commissioner Barnes referred to condition 17 and asked if there was a specific time the
City has to obtain the approval from the Corps of Engineers. City Engineer O'Donnell
stated there is no specific time this will get approved but the Corps of Engineers is
already reviewing the map. Commissioner Bames referred to condition 24 and asked if
this facility will be used during rain, because the City will then have the obligation of
cleaning up Corydon Road from all the mud. City Engineer O'Donnell stated that staff
has asked that the parking lot and the road to aggregate gravel.
Commissioner Sands asked if the Conditional Use Permit remains in affect if the
applicant moves. Senior Planner Villa explained that the Conditional Use Permit is only
for this site. Commissioner Sands referred to the Noise Analysis and stated the 70
decibels exceeds the noise limit and asked if this is going to be held down to 50 decibels.
Senior Planner Villa stated that the Noise Analysis indicates for the lazger track that there
needs to be a 2,000 foot radius from the outer limits of the track to maintain the decibel
level to 50, for the mid-size tract a 1,500 foot radius, and for the small track a 800 foot
radius. Commissioner Sands stated the Airport runway is close and asked if the
Skydivers have been considered. Mr. Brogdon responded in the affirmative and stated
when this project was started he was still the lessee of the Airport and there is an
agreement on the entrance way. Commissioner Sands referred to condition number 11
and the number being used only. Senior Planner Villa stated this was an error. Chairman
Wilsey stated that condition 11 should then be deleted. Commissioner Sands asked if
visitor riders would be accommodated and if there would be a waiver for insurance. Mr.
Brogdon responded in the affirmative, and stated that people will be coming from all over
because tracks are being closed.
Chairman Wilsey stated he was looking forwazd to the project coming to town. He then
referred to condition 4 and stated the scheduled events needs to be better defined
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and suggested the word "Major" be added. He referred to condition 7 and stated this
needs to be defined to address temporary office trailers, and suggested the following
verbiage: The pad azea will be allowed to have a temporary trailer in compliance with
FEMA requirements. Chairman Wilsey referred to condition 16 and asked if it was
necessary--does not believe it pertains to a temporary use. City Engineer O'Donnell stated
the conditions of the 404 Permit states any work. Chainnan Wilsey asked how property
not owned by the applicant could be set aside for a wetlands conversation easement. City
Engineer O'Donnell stated this would have to be worked out with the Corps of Engineers.
Chairman Wilsey suggested condition 16 be softened to state the applicant and the
Community Development Director will come to an agreement with the Corps of
Engineers. City Engineer O'Donnell stated that staff does not want to jeopazdize the
conditions listed by the Corps of Engineers and this is an issue that will have to be dealt
with. Chairman Wilsey suggested verbiage be added to the end of condition 16 "that the
applicant will work with the City to resolve this issue". Commissioner Schiffner
suggested condition 16 read: "Wetland mitigation must be arranged to the satisfaction of
the Corps of Engineers".
Commissioner Sands asked about crowd control. Mr. Brogdon stated they would have
people directing traffic from Cereal to the site and when having special event will hire
security. Senior Planner Villa stated the applicant is required to prepare a Congestion
Management Plan which should include traffic control on special events.
Cornrnissioner Schiffner asked about the clean-up of the road and whether this should be
added as a condition. Commissioner Barnes suggested this be added as a condition and
read: "Dust and dirt on local streets to be cleaned up as needed or on a weekly basis".
Senior Planner Morita stated that #7 of the Mitigated Negative Declaration/Mitigation
Program addresses this and a condition is not needed.
MOVED BY MATTHIES, SECONDED BY SANDS AND CARRIED BY A VOTE
OF 5-0 TO APPROVE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 96-8 AND MITIGATED
NEGATIVE DECLARATION 97-8 BASED ON THE FINDINGS AND SUBJECT
TO THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL LISTED IN THE STAFF REPORT WITH
THE FOLLOWING AMENDMENTS:
Condition No. 2: The Conditional Use Permit shall expire three (3) years from the
date of Planning Commission approval. After that time, the
applicant can request that the Community Development Director or
designee extend the CUP on a yeazly basis. Should the
Community Development Director receive any concerns from the
public, the Community Development Director may revoke the CUP
if said public concerns can not be resolved. The Community
Development Director shall also revoke the CUP if or when plans
are submitted to the City proposing residential development for the
project site at issuance of building permit for any of the models
for the Liberty plan. Operations of the dig-re~ge Motocross
will be ceased based upon a schedule acceptable to both the City
and the applicant.
Condition No. 4: For Major scheduled events the applicant shall be required to
comply with Section 5.73 (Special Events) of the Lake Elsinore
Municipal Code. Night Operations may be allowed i€~epe~
Condition No. 7: The applicant shall be required to prepare a detailed site plan for
the 60' X 200' pad area for the office and storage that will be
required to provide temporary landscaping and pazking facilities
subject to the approval of the City's Landscape Architect and the
Community Development Director. A fee for the review and
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approval of the landscaping plan shall be required. The pad area
will be allowed to have a temporary trailer in compliance with
FEMA requirements.
Condition No. 11: Delete, only the number was used
Condition No. 15: Unless conditions number 16, 17, 18, and 19 2, '~ are
satisfied no improvements shall be made upon all lands below the
1265 ft. elevation level in the Lake Elsinore flood plain,
southeasterly of the lake levee and no artificial change in the
topography in the surface of said lands shall be made (except
terracing and soil conservation measures) LEMC 15.68.052.
Condition No. 16: A wetland mitigation site must be set aside by conservation
easement or zoned as permanent open space in perpetuity by the
city prior to any discharge of fill, grading, or excavation, below
elev. 1260 ft. The city shall not approve any grading plans until
the Corps of Engineers has received written evidence of the
conservation easement recordation. City shall work with the
applicant to resolve Corps of Engineers permit requirements.
At this time, 8:00 p.m., the Commission recessed.
At this time, 8:11 p.m., the Commission reconvened.
3. Conditional Use Permit 97-9 -Dean Pattermann
Senior Planner Morita explained the request is to allow a temporary golf driving range
on 9.7-acres at 1800 Lakeshore Drive, within the East Lake Specific Plan Area. Access
to the site is taken from Lakeshore Drive. Mr. Morita stated that staff supports the
project because it will be consistent with the General Plan and East Lake Specific Plan,
and will not result in any unresolvable issues. He then highlighted the issues on road
improvement and neighboring residences which have been resolved.
Chairman Wilsey opened the public hearing at 8:20 p.m. asking for those wishing to
speak on the matter.
Mr. Dean Pattermann gave a brief family history, and stated this will be a family run
business. He then provided an overview of the proposal and improvements to be made.
Mr. Pattermann stated that they have contacted the Tiger Woods Foundation, which is a
program that introduces golf to under privileged kids, about bringing the program to this
facility.
Craig Johns, 30684 Skyterrace Drive, Temecula, stated that he is a driving range
consultant and covers Southern California, Las Vegas and Arizona. He stated that
creation of a clean environment, renovation of existing structure, revenue generator, and
community involvement are a few reasons why the Diamond Drive Golf Center should
be a welcome neighbor to Lake Elsinore. Mr. Johns then referred to the concern on
lighting and explained that lighting can now be directed exactly where they want it to go.
Mike McCabe, 17260 New Hope, Fountain Valley, referred to the concern on lighting and
stated that he has a design from a lighting consultant that illustrates that the lighting will
not impact neighbors. Mr. McCabe stated that disabled kids will be able to use this
facility and this is another reason this will be good for the community.
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Chairman Wilsey asked for anyone else wishing to speak on the matter. Hearing none,
the public hearing was closed at 8:32 p.m.
Commissioner Sands stated all of his questions have been answered, and pleased to have
the golf driving range come into the area.
Commissioner Matthies stated this is a great project.
Commissioner Bames stated concurrence with Commissioners Sands and Matthies, and
stated that a facility like this is needed locally.
Commissioner Schiffner stated he too was in favor of the project. He then asked the City
Engineer for the nature of improvements that would create a hazard. City Engineer
O'Donnell stated that curb and gutter would have to be installed and it is the obstacle of
the curve that is of concern. He explained that when the Lakeshore Bridge was put in
the decision was made to shift the right-of-way towazd the freeway, east. Mr. ODonnell
further explained that Lakeshore is an Arterial Street with 100-foot right-of-way and curb
and gutter must be installed in such a way that future improvement of the street can be
put in and not sure what grade curb and gutter will have to be put in so it matches the
future Arterial Street.
Commissioner Schiffner asked about item 13 "build a small wall to lean golf bags". Mr.
Pattermann referred to the elevation and explained the design and construction of this
wall, so customers can lean their golf bags.
Chairman Wilsey stated that he was looking forward to the aesthetic improvements in the
area. He then asked about the light standards referring to the neighboring residences and
suggested condition 3 be amended to include verbiage: light standards shall be shielded
so as not to reflect on neighbor residences at all. Chairman Wilsey referred to condition
18 and asked if there was any piping in the area that would afford the use of reclaimed
water. Mr. Pattermann stated the use of reclaimed water was his initial request when he
went before EVMWD, but they do not have any piping in the azea at this time. Chairman
Wilsey asked staff what approvals and agencies would be involved for the applicant to
drill a well. City Engineer O'Donnell stated that he believes the applicant and EVMWD
would have to reach an agreement about drilling a well. Chairman Wilsey asked if the
existing structure was on sewer or septic. Mr. Pattermann stated the structure is on septic.
Senior Planner Morita stated the structure is served by septic and that the Building
Department will require, prior to building permit, the applicant to provide certification by
a septic tank contractor or soils engineer that the current septic system is in proper
working order and if not then the applicant must connect to the sewer if a sewer line is
within 200-feet or if a hazdship can be proven as part of the building permit process then
on a case by case basis the building official may allow repair of the septic tank.
Chairman Wilsey suggested condition 18 be amended by adding the standard requirement
for connection to sewer/septic.
Mr. Pattennann stated that he talked with the homeowners and the used car lot business
and explained that the car lot and the first homeowner will be behind the range lighting
so only talking about five residences. Mr. Pattermann stated he talked with four of the
homeowners and got their approval, referred to a letter in his possession signed by these
four Elm Street homeowners.
Commissioner Schiffner asked about the 25-foot barrier behind the tee boxes along the
putting greens. Mr. Pattermann stated this is going to be a chipping azea. Commissioner
Schiffner asked what paving will be in the pazking lot. Mr. Pattermann stated that chip
seal will be placed in the parking lot.
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Mr. Pattermann referred to the $12,200 in-lieu fees that the Engineering department is
requesting for this project, and asked that something be worked out with regazd to the in-
lieu fees, condition 15. City Engineer O'Donnell stated this is a financial burden on this
project, but it is the building pernvt that triggers the ordinance and since the whole
building is being remodeled its like a new building is being built, and the only thing the
applicant can do it take it to City Council. Chairman Wilsey stated the Commission
could recommend negotiation on these improvements, condition 15.
Mr. Pattermann referred to condition 2 and the time limit of 3 years and asked that this
time frame be extended. Chairman Wilsey stated his concern is this is an interim use and
does not know when it will end. Mr. Pattermann stated that he has this property tied up
for the next 10 years, because he owns it and leases the other pazcel. In order for anyone
to develop that property and put it into the Eastlake Specific Plan they would have to buy
it or I would have to develop it. Chairman Wilsey stated the longest approval granted on
a Conditional Use Permit is five yeazs and most can be extended for a yeaz and then they
have to come back before the Commission, and would not have a problem changing the
three yeazs to five years and leave the administrative as on-going as stated.
Commissioner Schiffner stated he would not object to this, but this brings up a question
on the legal status of the East Lake development as it pertains to property like this.
Senior Planner stated that they do not have any rights, and explained that East Lake is
composed of large and small land holdings. This segment along Lakeshore is made up
of a lot of mom/pop ownerships and what happens in this situation is the East Lake Plan
acts as a zoning document and assigns an underlying zoning to the property.
Commissioner Schiffner asked if this project is in confonnance with the Specific Plan if
there indefinitely. Senior Planner Morita stated the applicant would have to get an
administrative review yeazly and could continue the use indefinitely in that way.
Chairman Wilsey asked about the process and costs associated with the administrative
review. Senior Planner Morita explained the process. Senior Planner Villa stated that
there is a charge of $165.00 per extension of time.
Chairman Wilsey commented on the yearly extensions and questioned whether this should
not be changed to every other year or a bi-yearly basis instead of a yearly basis.
Chairman Wilsey asked the Commission for their desire on the time frame, condition 2.
It was the consensus of the Commission to go 5 years with yearly extensions for the next
5 years.
Mr. Pattermann asked about the flood proofing requirements contained in condition 27,
and stated the existing structure is above 1270. City Engineer O'Donnell stated there are
two sets of flood control issues. One is the back basin and one is the front basin and the
structure is in the front basin and the elevation is 1270 for foundations and in the back
basins it is 1265. Also, City Ordinances are more stringent and made it 1270.
MOVED BY SANDS, SECONDED BY MATTHIES AND CARRIED BY A VOTE
OF 5-0 TO APPROVE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT 97-9 BASED ON THE
FINDINGS AND SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL LISTED IN
THE STAFF REPORT WITH THE FOLLOWING AMENDMENTS AND A
RECOMMENDATION BE MADE TO CITY COUNCIL THAT THEY REVIEW
CONDITION NUMBER 15.
Condition No. 2: The Conditional Use Permit shall expire three-(-3j five (~ years
from the date of Planning Commission approval. After that time,
the applicant can request that the Community Development
Director or designee extend the CUP on a yeazly basis for the next
five (5) years. Should the Community Development Director
PAGE EIGHT -PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES -FEBRUARY 4, 1998
receive any concerns from the public, the Community Development
Dtrector may revoke the CUP if said public concerns can not be
resolved. The Community Development Director shall also revoke
the CUP if or when plans are submitted to the City proposing
residential development for the project site. Operations of the
driving range will be ceased based upon a schedule acceptable to
both the City and the applicant.
Condition No. 3: The project will be allowed to operate from 7:00 AM to 10:00 PM
daily. The light poles shall be illuminated duectly toward the
driving area and not towards the residences.
Condition No. 18: Prior to issuance of building permit, the applicant shall submit a
"will serve" letter to the City Engineering Department from the
applicable water agency stating that water and sewer arrangements
have been made for the project. The project shall connect to sewer
if a sewer line is within 200 feet of the project boundary unless it
is demonstrated to the satisfaction of the Chief Building Official
that this is infeasible. If the project does not connect to sewer,
applicant shall comply with the following:
a) Prior to issuance of building permits, the applicant shall
submit a Soils Report which includes a sewage disposal
plan referenced to the grading plan and approved by the
Riverside County Health Department.
b) Prior to release for occupancy, the developer shall record a
notice entitled "Septic System Disclosure and Restrictions"
specifying that the property is served by a septic system
and that no structure or paving may be placed over the
sewage disposal area or the expansion area. A copy of the
approved septic system plot plan shall also be recorded
along with this notice. A copy of this recorded along with
this notice. A copy of this recorded notice shall be
provided to the City for verification.
BUSINESS ITEMS
4. Residential Project 97-3 - Linway Development (Continued from January 21, 1998
Senior Planner Villa stated that staff received a letter from the property owner requesting
a two week continuance.
MOVED BY SANDS, SECONDED BY MATTHIES AND CARRIED BY A VOTE
OF 5-0 TO CONTINUE RESIDENTIAL PROJECT 97-3 TO THE MEETING OF
FEBRUARY 18, 1998.
ADJOURNED TO DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE
The Planning Commission adjourned to the Design Review Committee at 9:11 p.m.
The Planning Commission reconvened at 9:40 p.m.
PAGE NINE -PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES -FEBRUARY 4, 1998
PLANNING COMMENTS
Senior Planner Villa introduced Robert Brady, Community Development Director, who will start
work February 18.
PLANNING COMMISSIONER'S COMMENTS
Commissioner Matthies
Glad to see all the new things coming in. Hope that Linda is doing better.
Commissioner Sands
No comment.
Vice Chairman Schiffner
No comment.
Chairman Wilsev
Referred to the previous minutes and his comment on the fencing standazds.
Commissioner Barnes
No comment.
ADJOURNMENT
MOVED BY SANDS, SECONDED BY MATTHIES AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS
VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO ADJOURN THE REGULAR PLANNING
COMMISSION MEETING AT 9:45 P.M.
Al Wilsey, Chairman
Submitted,
Linda Grindstaff, Recording ~cretary '
Signed by: Adria L. Bryning, Dep y City Clerk
MINUTES
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
MARCH 4,1998
The Planning Commission was called to order at 7:00 p.m. by Chairman Wilsey.
The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Commissioner Barnes
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: COMMISSIONER: BARNES, MATTHIES, SANDS,
SCHIFFNER, WILSEY
ABSENT: COMMISSIONER: NONE
Also Present were: Community Development Director Brady, Senior Planner
Villa and Deputy City Clerk Bryning.
There being no requests to speak the Public Comments Section was closed.
MOVED BY SANDS, SECONDED BY BARNES AND CARRIED BY A
VOTE OF 4 TO 1 WITH MATTHIES ABSTAINING TO APPROVE THE
CONSENT CALENDAR AS PRESENTED.
a. Planning Commission Regulaz Meeting -February 18, 1998
2. General Plan Amendment No. (~P~) 98-1 and Zane Chang No ,7~~ 98-1
Assessor's Parcel Number 373-071-018 - Rancon Current Yield 12 PL
Community Development Director Brady introduced noted that there is only
one item to be heazd tonight and it is a request for a General Plan Amendment
and the first request for this year. He asked the Senior Planner to address the
item.
Senior Planner Villa stated that staff requests a 60 day continuance of the
project. He explained that since advertising the General Plan Amendment to
be heard before the Planning Commission, staffhas discovered that there aze
other possible Amendments to the General Plan being proposed in the neaz
future and rather than use the first of four cycles for one item, staff feels that
it would be best to continue this item. He noted that the applicant has been
contacted and agrees with the recommendation, therefore staff recommends
that Planning Commission consider a continuance to the Mayb,1998,
Regular Meeting of the Planning Commission.
PAGE TWO -PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES -MARCH 4, 1998
Chairman Wilsey opened the public hearing at 7:05 p.m.
MOVED BY SCHIFFNER, SECONDED BY MATTHIES AND CARRIED
BY UNANIMOUS VOTE TO CONTINUE THE GENERAL PLAN
AMENDMENT NO.98-1 AND ZONE CHANGE NO.98-1-ASSESSORS
PARCEL NUMBER 373-071-018 - RANCON CURRENT YIELD 12 PL, TO
THE REGULAR PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING OF MAY 6, 1998.
Deputy City Clerk Bryning clarified the public hearing procedure once the
hearing has been opened for testimony.
The Planning Commission adjourned to the Design Review Committee Meeting at
7:05 p.m.
The Planning Commission reconvened at 7:06 p.m.
Community Development Director Brady made note of the light Agenda for the
Meeting.
Noted that an explanation should be given to a member of the audience as to
the action of the Planning Commission regarding the continuance.
Apologized for missing the last Meeting.
2. Commented on the alley running parallel to Graham Avenue across from the
library. She stated that it has rutted out and has made ingress and egress very
difficult.
Noted the repairs on Kellog Street after his comments at the last meeting.
Stated his concern regarding the speed problem coming down off of the hill
from Grand Avenue towards Machado on Lincoln. He noted that has been
two serious accidents and: noted that it creates a blind spot and should be
addressed to slow people down
PAGE THREE -PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES -MARCH 4,1998
MOVED BY SANDS, SECONDED BY MATTHIES AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO ADJOURN THE REGULAR PLANNING
COMMISSION MEETING AT 7:10 P.M.
ATTEST:
Robert Brady,
to the Plamung
Respectfully submitted,
MINUTES
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
MARCH 18, 1998
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The Planning Commission was called to order at 7:00 p.m. by Chairman Wilsey.
The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Commissioner Sands.
ROLL CALL:
PRESENT: COMMISSIONERS: SANDS, SCHIN~'NER, AND
WILSEY
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: BARNES AND MATTHIES
Also present were: Community Development Director Brady, Assistant Planner Miller, Deputy
City Clerk Bryning, City Engineer O'Donnell and Receptionist Clerk Typist Cortez.
PUBLIC COMMENTS
There being no requests to speak the Public Comment Section was closed.
CONSENT CALENDAR
MOVED BY SCHIFFNER, SECONDED BY SANDS AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS
VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR AS
PRESENTED.
i. Minutes
a. Planning Commission Regular Meeting of -March 4, 1998
PUBLIC HEARINGS
2. Commercial Prc
Fried
Community Development Director Brady noted that this was a modification to the
Kentucky Fried Chicken located at Riverside Drive and presented Assistant Planner Miller
Project Manager will present the proposal.
Assistant Planner Miller noted that this is a Design. Review for a drive thru window and
drive thru lane parking lot improvements for an existing fast food restaurant, a Conditional
Use Permit to operate the drive thru, and a Zone Change on two parcels. The total area
in the project is .62 acres and is located on Riverside Drive between St. Charles Place and
Walnut Drive. The applicant is requesting to add 90 square. feet for the drive thru, add
an additional 11 parking spaces to make a total of 29 parking spaces, improve landscaping,
expand the circulation, add a right turn exit only driveway and 2 signs located above the
new drive thru window area on the southeast wall fronting Riverside Drive. Assistant
Planner Miller furthernoted that Caltrans requested that an acceleration lane be added to
accommodate the right tum exit only in the area off of Riverside Drive, and the applicant
did comply to this request. She stated that Staff has reviewed the applicants plans and
recommends approval of Commercial Project 98-2, Zone Change 98-2, Conditional Use
Permit 98-2 and the Mitigated Negative Declaration 98-3.
Chairman Wilsey opened the public hearing at 7:07 p.m.
PAGE TWO -PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES -MARCH 18, 1998
Kim Quon,. 701 West Graham Avenue. Spoke on behalf of the applicants and thanked Staff
for their efforts. He stated they are in general agreement with the staff report and support
the recommendation to approve the Commercial Project, Zone Change, Conditional Use
Permit and to adopt the Mitigated Negative Declaration. He explained that the only
condition that he would like reviewed would be Planning Division Condition 15b
regarding street trees since there is no area in front of the restaurant to plant a street tree.
He noted a bus stop in front of the restaurant and further explained that the applicant is
proposing to improve the right-of-way to the sidewalk and curb and gutter. He further
noted the trees in the right of way may be so close to the driveway that it may obstruct
your line of sight and that may be a safety issue.
Chairman Wilsey hearing no further requests to speak the public hearing was closed at
7:09 p.m.
Commissioner Sands questioned parking spaces for handicap parking.
Mr. Quon stated that it is a combinedparking lot and is shared with the laundry and
Kentucky Fried Chicken/Taco Bell. He noted that per the Code they are in compliance.
Community Development Director Brady concurred with Mr. Quon.
Commissioner Sands asked whether the applicant had considered to extending a pedestrian
walk way through the drive thru area onto the west parking lot and have it striped through
the drive thru lane?
Mr. Quon stated he does not see a problem with the suggestion and could stripe from the
point where they stop the walk at the drive thru and could continue across and designate
for pedestrians.
Commissioner Sands questioned the landscaping in that location.
Mr. Quon stated that they have shown a door, stoop and stem out of the restaurant on that
side and there is a walk that comes thrn the landscape area, through tite drive that and then
the parking area across on the west side.
Commissioner Sands asked if the proposed site plan has been corrected and reviewed as
well as the acceleration lane? City Engineer O'Donnell stated that it has.
Commissioner Schiffner asked who's requirement was it to have a right turn only? City
Engineer O'Donnell stated that it was a Calttans requirement and that it would not be
feasible to make a left turn out of that location.
Mr. Quon referred to ExhibitE, and noted that there is a specific issue that is the reason
for the right turn only... He explained that Lear: Drive intersects the State Highway of
Riverside Drive from the East, and could create a potential for problems if it were made
a left hand turn: out at the exitfrom the project site. The other drive way further up, does
not have the same problem. And that was the reasoning behind Caltrans decision.
Chairman Wilsey noted the potential for applicants liability .should a cross walk be striped
through the drive thru area, and felt that this would not be wise for the applicant to pursue.
Commissioner Sands stated that it could slow the traffic down.
Chairman Wilsey asked for Staff comment regarding Condition 15b. Assistant Planner
Miller agreed that 15b should be removed since there is no area for street trees and the
setbacks were not required at the time the building was built.
PAGE THREE -PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES -MARCH 18, 1998
Chairman Wilsey asked if there was a need for a shared pazking agreement with the
laundry owners?
Assistant Planner Miller stated it already exists and the same applicant owns both parcels.
She noted the need to continue the reciprocal access agreement.
Chairman Wilsey stated that the Reciprocal Pazking Agreement is so outdated, that they
should have an updated version included in the conditions. He suggested the condition
require they file a Reciprocal Pazking Agreement that would include access for both
parcels, protecting both parties. He directed City Engineer O'Donnell to implement the
agreement and asked if he had reviewed all of the conditions and if all the requirements
been filled?
O'Donnell concurred.
MOVED BY SCHIFFNER, SECONDED BY SANDS AND CARRIED BY. UNANIMOUS
VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO APPROVE COMMERCIAL PROJECT 98-2,
CONDTI`IONAL USE .PERMIT 98-2, ZONE CHANGE 98-2 PER THE CONDITIONS
STATED, WITH THE DELETION OF CONDITION 15B AND ADDITION OF
CONDTTION 36 WHICH STATES: THE APPLICANT SHALL CAUSE TO BE
RECORDED AN IRREVOCABLE RECIPROCAL PARKING AND CIRCULATION
AGREEMENT IN FAVOR OF THE LOTS ADJACENT TO THE KENTUCKY FRIED
CHICKEN SITE, SUBJECT TO THE APPROVAL OF THE COMMUNITY
DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR.
BUSIlVESS ITEMS
None.
ADJOURNED TO DESIGN REVIEW COMI~IITTEE
The Planning Commission adjourned to the Design Review Committee at 7:20 p.m.
The Planning Commission reconvened at 7:21 p.m.
PLANNING COMMENTS
Community Development Director Brady advised Commissioner Wilsey that his concerns
regarding the enforcement of the speed limit on Lincoln Street were forwarded to the Police
Department and Commissioner Matthies's concerns regarding the alleyway were forwazded to the
Public Works Department.
PLANNING COMMISSIONER'S COMMENTS
Commissioner Sands Commented of the Followinft:
Noted that on Franklin Street there is still graffiti on the Cellular Phone block wall and
noted Senior Planner Villa was going to take care of that graffiti removal.
Vice Chairman Schiffner - No Comments.
Chairman Wilsey Commented on the Following:
Brought to Staff s attention to the fact that there is no stop sign at Terra Cotta and Lake
Street.
PAGE FOUR -PLANNING CONIl~IISSION MIlVUTES -MARCH 18, 1998
ADJOURNMENT
MOVED BI' WIISEY, SECONDED BY SANDS AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE
OF THOSE PRESENT TO ADJOURN THE REGULAR PLANNING COMMISSION
MEETING AT 7:24 P.M.
i
AL Y,
ATTEST:
-,~~`~~
Robert A. Brady, Sec to the
Planning Commi~cion
Respectfully Submitted
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Marilyn C. Cortex, Receptionis Clerk Typist
MINUTES
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
APRIL 1, 1998
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The Planning Commission was called to order at 7:02 p.m. by Chairman Wilsey.
The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Vice Chairman Schiffner.
ROLL CALL:
PRESENT:
SANDS, SCHIF'FNER, MATTHIES, BARNES
AND WIISEY
Also present were: Community Development Director Brady, Assistant Planner Miller, Deputy
City Clerk Bryning, City Engineer O'Donnell and Receptionist Clerk Typist Cortez.
PUBLIC COMMENTS
There being no requests to speak the Public Comment Section was closed.
CONSENT CALENDAR
MOVED BY SANDS, SECONDID BY SCHIFFNER AND CARRIED BY A VOTE OF 3-0
WITH BARNES AND MATHIES ABSTAINING TO APPROVE THE CONSENT
CALENDAR.
1. Minutes
a. Planning Commission Regular Meeting of -February 4, 1998 and March 18, 1998
PUBLIC HEARINGS
2.
Community Development Director Brady noted that this was for the construction of a
mini-mart and remodel of the existing gasoline service station and asked Assistant Planner
Miller to present the proposal.
Assistant Planner Miller noted that this project is approximately one acre, located at the
intersection of Mission Trail and Railroad Canyon Road. She explained that this project
in 1994, was approved for a car wash, but it expired in 1997. She said that this project
includes an expansion to their existing cashiers booth with a 2,929 square foot mini-mazket
and the following improvements: anew pump at the location of the cashiers booth; new
landscaping; planters; a five foot. block wall along the northerly and westerly boundary
line; and the addition of sixteen parking spaces, including one handicapped space. She
stated that Staff has concerns regarding the two driveways and the fact that Mission Trait
is considered an urban arterial, which only allows one driveway per business. She
explained that the applicant and the Engineering Division had found that the radius of the
large tanker trucks could not make just that one driveway, so therefore it was decided to
stay with the two driveways. She stated that the other question was whether to allow the
access between McDonald and Chevron and the applicants have said that they have decided
not to proceed because of a safety issue with the ttasit location and a site for cars coming
through that location. She stated the other issue of concern was the location of the
handicapped parking space, therefore staff teoontmends it be moved to the other end of the
parking area. She further stated that the applicant feels that were it stands is a better place.
Ms. Miller stated that staff recommends that Planning Commission recommend that the
City Council approve Commercial Project Number 98-1 and Conditional Use Permit
98-1.
PAGE TWO -PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES -APRIL 1, 1998
Chairman Wilsey opened the public hearing at 7:08 p.m.
Al Norris, Property Development Specialist for Chevron Products Company, La Habra
introduced Jim Forgey of RHL Design. He explained that Chevron has operated a branded
service station at this location for approximately fourteen years and during that entire time
they have been a self serve kiosk format. He noted that the Chevron is now moving into
the convenient store business and through their consumer research has found that the
gasoline customer wants to look for the capability to use credit cards at the pump islands
and would go to a competitive location and pay more per gallon for that capability. He
further explained that the customer would like the capability to buy convenience items in
a clean environment and with those two thoughts in mind Chevron is proposing to build
a retail outlet. He stressed this will be one of the first to be built in Southern California
at an approximate capital cost of nine hundred thousand dollars ($900,000.00) to Chevron.
Mr. Norris explained the benefits that would aooompany this project. He stated he felt that
the enhanced image and increase in business would benefit the Lake Elsinore residence,
commuters, tourists and the business owners. He noted that the project conforms to the
Spanish Colonial and Mission Revival architectural style of the community. He further
stated that they would be incorporating approximately twenty percent {20%) landscaping,
as per Staffs recommendation. He referred to Condition No. 7, and explained that the
handicap parking space shown on the plot plan could be moved to the west end of the
parking space area in front of the food mart. He agreed with Staff that a potential conflict
does exist between the fueling position in front of the store and the last parking stall. He
further explained that the handicapped stall would be used less frequently, therefore it
would be less of a conflict between that stall and that particular fueling island. He felt that
the handicapped stall should be closer to the building front entrance, which it is in that
position. He addressed Condition No. 19B, and asked for further clarification regarding
the installation of trees. He stated he would agree that the McDonald access, if they
moved it approximately sixty five feet, would become a visibility issue with the trash
enclosure on McDonald property and there would be a blind spot coming from the east or
west of the trash enclosure and he asked to have this item removed.
Chairman Wilsey hearing no further requests to speak, Chairman Wilsey closed the public
hearing was closed at 7:14 p.m.
Commissioner Sands referred to Condition No. 33, and asked if they were going to
continue with the driveway and if so it should read sixty five feet (65') to the east.
Chairman Wilsey asked the applicant if this was the driveway that they were proposing not
to use. Mr. Norris stated that it was. Chairman Wilsey suggested deletion of Condition
No. 33.
Commissioner Barnes noted that Condition No. 31, states that the onsite drainage shall not
be directed to flow across the fueling islands and that the fueling islands do exist and he
asked if they were planning to do any changes. City Engineer O'Donnell said that he had
discussed it with the applicant and the applicant will be doing some minor pavement
adjustments to prevent storm water from flowing across the island.
Commissioner Schiffner noted that the north arrow on both sides of the plans are
txxtflicting with one another and further noted that the site plan appears to be correct and
the north arrow on other plan points west. He asked for clarification of the exiting
handicapped parking stall. He stated that he believed that the most common use of a
handicapped parking stall would be for driver who would be in need of the left access from
a handicapped stall rather than a passenger exiting from the right side of a handicapped
stall.
Chairman Wilsey suggested adding the words "or to a location agreeable to the
Community Development Director" under Condition No. 7.
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Chairman Wilsey asked if there was an easement at the driveway that comes out of Casino
Drive? Mr. Norris stated that there was.
Chairman Wilsey stated that Staff had concerns regarding Condition No. 19B. Assistant
Planner Miller noted the condition that states thirty feet (30') apart, and the applicant is
questioning if they would have enough area to comply. She further noted that staff and
the applicant have come to an agreement to add the words "where appropriate" and
"subject to-the Community Development Directors approval."
Community Development Director Brady stated that as part of Condition No. 32, he would
like to add at the end, "the cost of any mitigation measures required in the public right of
way shall be paid by the applicant."
Chaimran Wilsey clarified the changes in Condition No.'s 19B, 32 and 7 and the deletion
of Condition No. 33.
Commissioner Schiffner asked if a document of ingress and egress on this other piece of
property was recorded. Mr. Norris stated that it was.
MOVED BY MATTHIES, SECONDED BY SANDS AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS
VOTE TO APPROVE COMMERCIAL PROJECT NO. 98-1 AND CONDITIONAL USE
PERMIT NO. 98-1, PER THE CONDITIONS STATED, WITH THE DELETION OF
CONDITION N0.33 AND ADDITION OF CONDITION N0.32 WHICH STATES: THE
APPLICANT SHALL INCUR ALL COSTS TO PROVIDE A TRAFFIC STUDY
PREPARED BY A TRAFFIC ENGINEER FURNISHING MITIGATION MEASURES IF
FEASIBLE, REGARDING CHANNELIZATION AND STRIPING FOR THE ERISTING
DRIVEWAYS ON MLSSION TRAIL ROAD IN THE. VICINITY OF CHEVRON PRIOR TO
BUILDING PERMIT; ALL COSTS RESULTING FROM MITIGATION, INCLUDING
RESTRIPING ALONG MLSSION TRAIL SHALL BE INCURRED BY THE APPLICANT.
AN ADDITION OF CONDITION NO. 19B WHICH STATES: APPLICANT SHALL
PLANT STREET TREES, SELECTED FROM THE CITY'S STREET TREE LIST, A
MA%IMUM OF THIItTY FEET APART AND AT LEAST TWENTY FOUR INCH BO%
SIZE WHERE APPROPRIATE; ON AREAS WHERE SCREENING IS NECESSARY
TREES SHALL BE AT LEAST THIRTY SIR INCH BOR SIZE SUBJECT TO THE
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR OR DESIGNEE'S APPROVAL. AN
ADDITION OF CONDITION NU. 7 WHICH STATES: THE HANDICAP SPACE SHOWN
ON THE PLOT PLAN SHALL BE MOVED TO THE WEST END OF THIS PARKING
SPACE AREA IN FRONT OF THE MINI-MARKET OR TO A LOCATION AGREEABLE
TO THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR OR HIS DESIGNEE.
BUSINESS ITEMS
None.
ADJOURNED TO DESIGN REVIEW CObII~IITTEE
The Planning Commission adjourned to the Design Review Committee at 7:23 p.m.
The Planning Commission reconvened at 7:45 p.m.
PLANNING COMMENTS
None.
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PLANNING COMMISSIONER'S COMMENTS
Commissioner Sands - No Comments.
Commissioner Barnes - No Comments.
Commissioner Matthies - No Comments.
Commissioner Schiffner - No Comments.
Chairman Wilsey - No Comments.
ADJOURNMENT
MOVED BY SCHIFFNER, SECONDED BY MATTHIIi5 AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO ADJOURN TAE REGULAR PLANNING COMMISSION
MEETING AT '7:50 P.M.
ATTEST:
Brady, Sectary to
Planning
Respectfully Submitted
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Marilyn C. Cortez, Receptio ' Clerk Typist
bIINUTES
PLANNING COMMLSSION MEETING
APRIL, 15, 1998
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The Planning Commission was called to order at 7:05 p.m. by Chairman Wilsey.
The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Commissioner Schiffner.
ROLL CALL:
PRESENT: COMMLSSIONERS: SANDS, SCHII~ FNER, MATTHIES, BARNES
AND WIISEY
Also present were: Community Development Director Brady, Assistant Planner Miller, Senior
Planner Villa and Receptionist Typist Cortez.
PUBLIC COMMENTS
There being no requests to speak the Public Comment Section was closed.
CONSENT CALENDAR
MOVED BY SANDS, SECONDED BY SCHIFFNER AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS
VOTE TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR AS PRESENTED.
Minutes
a. Planning Commission Regulaz Meeting of -April 1, 1998
PUBLIC HEARINGS
2. Lake Elsinore Gatewav Center Sian Proeram at the Southeast .Corner of Collier and
Community Development Director Brady noted that this was the only public hearing item
before them this evening which is a proposed sign program for the AM/PM Mini-Mart to
be constructed at Nichols and Collier Road and is well under construction at this time. He
asked Senior Planner Villa to present the proposal.
Senior Planner Villa noted that this was a sign program for the Lake Elsinore Gateway
Center located on Nichols Road and Collier Avenue just north of the existing Outlet Center
and the proposed sign program is being made in compliance with Condition No. 24 of
Commercial Project No. 97-1 that was considered by Planning Commission earlier this
year. He said that the applicant is requesting approval for signage for We AM/PM Mini-
Mart currently under t~onstntction. He explained that Condition No. 24 dictates that they
would need to received sign program approval before signage and that they had proceeded
with their sign program which addresses signage for not only the AM/PM Mini-Mart but
for the two additional pads at the site. He further explained that the sign program would
also make provision for the future construction of a center identification sign, pazcel
monument sign for each of the parcels, wall signs, and directional signs. He further noted
that the applicant is requesting approval in cencept only for a freeway identification sign,
which is a 45' high sign, approximately 85 square feet in area and can have up to 99.5
square feet in area. Senior Planner Villa stated that the applicant is also requesting
approval for a monument sign on Nichols Road which will be 5'6" in height and
approximately 42 square feet in area. He stated that staff recommends that Planning
Commission approve the sign program and oonoeptc based on the findings and the exhibits
in the report.
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Chairman Wilsey opened the public hearing at 7:12 p.m.
Pami ltandhawa, RTS Partnership, noted that the architect was unable to attend the
meeting and appreciated all of the support from the City and staff. He further noted that
the architect had a one Dolor drawing with him and that it would be given to the Planning
Division in a couple days.. He stated. that. he would abide by the conditions and
recommendations set forth by the Planning Division.
Hearing no further requests to speak, Chairman Wilsey closed the public hearing at 7:14
p.m.
Commissioner Wilsey noted that there has never been a sign program that did not have
graphic illustrations or concepts of what the signage was going to be. He further noted
that he had before him the sign and information for freeway signage but did not have the
drawings and details for the center identification sign and for the monument signs for the
future project and that this was normally presented with the sign program.
Senior Planner Villa noted that Mr. Randhawa mentioned that the architect had car trouble
and was planning on bringing exhibits showing the freeway identification sign and color
exhibits showing the two signs. Commissioner Wilsey asked Mr. Villa if he had ever
presented a sign program for a center in this community without a wmplete set of plans
and drawings for preview and approval.
Senior Planner Villa noted that the applicant was aware of what needed to be submitted
for planning commission approval but was somewhat pressed to get the .signs for the
AM/PM Mini-Mart approved and they had not made a decision as to what kind, types of
uses or what they anticipated on those two other parcels. He further noted that the
applicant was not ready to commit to a design of a proposed sign and were asking for
approval in concept in writing to have those signs in the future. He stated that the code
states that a monument sign has to be approved by Planning Commission for design
approval.
Commissioner Wilsey noted that under the project description he agreed with the sign
criteria standards because it is using criteria out of the sign program from Title 17 and that
it would be a boiler plate Arco sign.
Commissioner Schiffner asked if they could approve what graphics were presented.
Commissioner Wilsey noted that he would agree to that and asked that a condition of
approval be added that states, "The approval of this sign program only pertains to signage
for .the AM/PM Arco parcel. Subsequent signage for the remaining parcels shall be
considered by the Planning Commission. The applicant shall prepare a design program
for all freestanding and wall signs consistent in design for Planning Commission
consideration prior to approval of any subsequent signs."
Community Development Director Brady noted that as each of the parcels are developed
it would be brought before the Planning Commission and at that time the signs would be
addressed on each of the parcels and he further noted that staff wilt be adding
Commissioner Wilseys condition to the conditions of approval..
A brief discussion was held on the approval of subsequent signage for the remaining
parcels that did not have graphics or concept.
Commissioner Wilsey asked if anyone else wished to speak on the sign proposal and if
Planning Commission had further comments. Hearing none he called for a motion.
PAGE THREE -PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES -APRIL 15, 1998
MOVED BY SCffiFF'NER, SECONDED BY WIISEY AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS
VOTE TO APPROVE THE LAKE ELSINORE GATEWAY CENTER SIGN AT THE
SOUTHEAST CORNER OF COLLIER AND NICHOLS FOR ~AM/PM MIN-MART."
WITH THE ADDITION OF CONDITION NO. 1 WffiCH STATES: THAT THE
APPROVAL OF THLS SIGN PROGRAM ONLY PERTAINS TO SIGNAGE FOR THE
AM/PM ARCO PARCEL; SUBSEQUENT SIGNAGE FOR THE REMAINING PARCELS
SHALL BE CONSIDERED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION; THE APPLICANT
SHALL PREPARE A DESIGN PROGRAM FOR ALL FREESTANDING AND WALL
SIGNS CONSISTENT IN DESIGN FOR PLANNING COMMISSION CONSIDERATION
PRIOR TO APPROVAL OF ANY SUBSEQUENT SIGNS.
BUSINESS ITEMS
None.
ADJOURNED TO DESIGN REVIEW COIV11~H1TEE
The Planning Commission adjourned to the Design Review Committee at 7:23 p.m.
The Planning Commission reconvened at 7:35 p.m.
PLANNING COMMENTS
Community Development Director Brady commented that at the last City Council meeting
the ICFC/Taco Bell and Chevron application was approved and conditions were added to
the Chevron application that dealt with the sale of beer, wine and alcoholic beverages.
PLANNING COMMISSIONER'S COMMENTS
Commissioner Sands - No Comments.
Commissioner Barnes - No Comments.
Commissioner Matthies - No Comments.
Commissioner Schiffner Commented on the Followine:
Commissioner Schiffner asked if staff had reviewed the location of Chevron Stations
handicapped parking. Community Development Director Brady explained that after
talking to Councilman Metze and the applicant regazding ADA requirements, he found that
the pazking area adjacent to the building closest to the fueling islands, as originally
discussed with the applicant would be the best location for the handicapped pazking space.
Chairman Wilsey Commented on the Following:
Commissioner Wilsey asked if staff had resolved the issue regazding the five foot high
fence as opposed to the six foot high fence. Community Development Director Brady
explained that there was not a wall requirement around the site and the six foot fence
requirement was between a commercial and residential development for separation
purposes.
Commissioner Wilsey asked if anyone would be interested in acquiring a pamphlet with
regards to "Conflict of Interests." He noted that the pamphlets were made avail-
able through the State Attorney Generals office.
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ADJOURNMENT
MOVED BY SCHIETNER, SECONDED BY BARNES AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS
VOTE TO ADJOURN THE REGULAR PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING AT 7:40
P.M.
ATTEST:
dtobert A. $rady, Secre~fy to the
Planning Commission
Respectfully Submitted
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Marilyn C. Cortez, Receptio ist
MINUTES
PUBLIC SLOPING MEETING
MAY 11, 1998
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The Public Scoping Meeting commenced at 6:20 p.m. by :Senior Planner Morita.
PRESENT:. Duane Morita, Tony Polo, Glen LaJoie and Robert Brady
Duane Morita, Senior Planner for the City of Lake Elsinore, provided an overview of the
environmental process, discussed purposes of the Scoping Meeting and introduced the speakers.
Tony Polo, Avalon Consultants, the applicants consultant engineer, provided an overview of the
project, its history, and its design features and treatments.
Glen LaJoie, RBF and Associates, the prepazer of the Environmental Impact Report (EIR) for the
project, provided an overview of the environmental process and the various issues to be discussed
and those documents to be included in the EIR.
Alberhill/Lake Elsinore Sports and Entertainment Center
A Public Scoping Meeting has been scheduled to identify issues that should be addressed in the
Environmental Impact Report being prepared for the proposed project. The Scoping Meeting is
not a public hearing on the merits of the proposed project and no decision on the project will be
taken. Public testimony is limited to identifying issues regarding the project's potential
environmental impacts. The project applicant or the City will address any concerns expressed at
the Scoping Meeting through revisions to the proposed project and/or completion of a Final
Environmental Impact Report.
A Notice of Preparation has been prepared for the. Environmental Impact Report and is available
for review at the City of Lake Elsinore City Hall, 130 South Main Street, Lake Elsinore, CA
92530.
Project Location
The proposed project is located within the Alberhill Ranch Specific Plan area, which is located
within the northern portions of the City of Lake Elsinore. The entire Alberhill Ranch Specific
Plan area is 1,853 acres and is bounded generally by I-15 to the north, Terra Cotta Road/Nichols
Road to the South, El Toro Road to the east, and Lake Street to the west.
The Alberhill/Lake Elsinore Sports and Entertainment Center project comprises the middle portion
of the Alberhill Ranch area and is defined by I-15 along the north, Lake Street to the southwest
and Nichols Road to the south. Regional access is from the I-15/Lake Street and I-15/Nichols
Road interchange.
Proposed Project
The project proposes development of a sports and entertainment. center, which includes the
following land uses: hotel, commercial, industrial, amphitheater, residential, golf course and
clubhouse, raceway and viewing areas, pazking azeas, and open space. Development of the
project will commence upon approval of entitlements and the securing of all necessary permits
from local state and federal agencies. Build-out is anticipated by 2015.
PUBLIC COMMENTS
Don Foster, 29256 Northpointe, spoke in favor of the project and noted the following:
- traffic would be on I-15
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- most of the homes and schools are more than two miles from the project
- odors would quickly dissipate with the prevailing winds
- there is no dust from a paved auto race track
- at the Eastshore Campgrounds less than a mile from the drag racing strip one could sleep
with there windows open
- noise, dust and diesel fuel smell from an ERM truck do not seem to create any
complaints
- businesses will benefit from the full hotels and Lake Elsinore will benefit from the taxes
- paved road from Nichols to Lakeshore
Leroy Tucker, 33532 Cherry Blossom Lane, spoke in favor of the project but noted the following
concerns:
- where would the power lines be running
- the need for a sewer plant
- run the race cars on the proposed site and ask the nearby residents if the noise is tolerable
Russell Radford, works at 31315 Chaney Street, noted that the City and citizens would benefit
from the revenue but noted the following concern:
- on and off freeway access, a special light system and added lanes before and after the
event
Scott Auchmoody, 13021 Fesque Court, Corona, noted the following:
- how will the noise level be controlled
- plans for increased traffic on Lake Street and Nichols Street
- signal lights planned for Lake Street and Temescal Canyon
Jerry Kurhn, 26633 Spotted Pony, Corona, noted that he was not against the advancement of man
kind but noted the following concerns:
- traffic conditions after the event
- Horse Thief Canyon is a natural amphitheatre
- concurred with Mr. Tucker to bring in race cars
Richard Stokes, 27157 Echo Canyon Court, Corona, spoke in opposition of the project and noted
the following:
- noise level
- concurred with Mr. Tucker to bring in race cars.
- are the comments .and. findings of the Riverside County Planning Commission included
in the Environment Impact Report
Greg Davis, 29363 Northlake Drive, spoke in favor of the project and noted the following:
- a project that does not request money from the citizens is a good project
-bring in jobs and commercial industry
- the noise that comes from the lake does not annoy me
-worked in the May Ranch Area in Perris and have not heard one complaint regarding
the Perris Race Track
- at the Perris Race Track there is a curfew for the event
Jennifer Fogg, 13066 Gelding Court, Corona, noted that she would like to see Lake Elsinore
succeed but noted the following concerns:
- wanted to raise her children in a rural setting
- see the background of studies that were done that established the market for this project
PAGE THREE -PUBLIC SLOPING MINUTES -MAY 11, 1998
- where has this been done in this magnitude with 300 town homes in close proximity to
a raceway and have the town homes been purchased
- do people like to golf while hearing race cars
- What are the professional backgrounds of the consultants, landowners and developers that
are proposing the project and to what point have they completed a project to this size and
proportion successfully
-property values going down due to bankruptcy of the project
- handling of additional traffic
- in regards to water, sewer, gas and electric; what and when are these needed, at what
stage will each of these be completed, is there a plan that states when which item will be
constructed and how will these items be supported
- to see a scale graphic showing the distance between the project and the schools in the area
- any history in California where you had a project like this in proximity to schools
- amphitheatre would be in direct conflict with the stadium
- in regazds to May Ranch;.are there any environmental impacts and is the community
satisfied with the Perris Race Track
- compromise the Cleveland National Forest in any potential endangered species that might
be affected by air quality
- in Fontana there is a church site that cannot hold meetings on Sunday due to the noise
level, has the history of other race tracks and there close proximity to public forum been
looked into
Randy Haapala, 27560 Lindell Road, spoke in favor of the project and noted the following:
- kids need to be interested in something else besides drugs
- the positive issues would out way the negative issues
- noise level could. be decreased by muffler modification
Booker Wright, 29101 Tradewinds Circle, spoke in opposition of the project and noted the
following:
- we are in a smog free area, around July the smog will increase and so will the smog
inspection fees
Stephen Horner, 13159 Goldrush Drive, Corona, noted the following:
- emergency services in the area and there response time
Suzanne Horner, 13159 Goldrush Drive, Corona, noted that she was for progress but noted the
following concerns:
- traffic level
- emergency services in the azea and there response time
- drag racing outside of the race track
Dana Bingham, 13121 Rich Springs Way, Corona, noted the following wncerns:
- how is the City going to deal with increased traffic on Temescal, Lake and the I-15
freeway
- what kinds of capitol improvements will the City put into place to deal with traffic flow
at Lake and Nichols at the offramp
- how many races are planned for each race track
- what kind and how much noise will be generated from each race and at what distance will
that noise cause problems
- how many and what kinds of concerts aze anticipated
- what will be done to mitigate the noise level
- what kind of infrastructure is being planned to support this project
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- who will be paying for improvements to the surrounding area and how will the City plan
to pay off bonds that they may be selling
- aze there any freeway improvements and who will pay for it
-light pollution from parking and event arenas
- what kind of air pollution will be caused from the increased traffic and race cars
- how will the city maintain a safe environment during the events and if the City police is
not adequate who will pay for increased security
- will the diamond be in direct competition with the amphitheatre and does the City
anticipate a short fall in the diamonds budget
- what kind of traffic flow is expected and what kinds of delays will there be in getting in
and out of the parking areas
- does the City plan for potential lawsuits caused by excessive noise in residential
communities
- due to traffic problems and increased safety hazard from the patrons of this complex
using Temescal Canyon as a short cut during frcewaybackups, how far will the City's
responsibility extend and what do they plan to do to reconcile this
- how will property values be effected in the surrounding communities
- what will be the increased crimes in the secondary areas
Pearl Vasquez, 13419 Green Mountain Drive, Corona, noted that she is submitting a letter from
Bill Wishard in behalf of Horsethief Canyon Association and noted the following concerns:
adverse noise and public nuisance of the project will make it difficult to sell your home
- have you compiled statistics of bus accidents
- have you considered all of the children in the area
- number of events planned for the year
Deborah Russ, 16501 Mountain Street, spoke in opposition of the project and noted the following:
- create noise, air pollution and traffic on Lake Street
- Diamond Stadium was a financial chaos and now you are proposing to build a race track
- propose a nonpolluting project
- property values will decrease
- moved here to be in a rural atmosphere
Al Lyons, 15023 Valencia Way, spoke in favor of the project and noted the following:
- in regards to the noise; there is nothing on the project that suggests that they will be
holding the races at night and the races will not be held 24 hours a day
- in regards to emergency services; every track that I have been to it is the promoters
responsibility to provide ambulance, medical and security service
- this project is a one of a kind facility
- there has not been a traffic problem at the Willow Springs Raceway and there is only one
road going in and out
Avery Angevine, 27429 Fawnridge Court, Corona, spoke in opposition of the project and noted
the following:
- at any sporting event there will always be traffic
- Knotts Berry Farm could not control. the traffic from entering the community
- wanted to live in a peaceful wmmunity
- noise will bounce off of the bean, then off of the hills and finally Horsethief Canyon
Christina Anderson, 13309 Bobcat, Corona, noted the following wncern:
- survey local amphitheatres for the percentage of drug and drunk driving related arrests
before and after the events
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Georgette Piper, 29052 Forest View, spoke in opposition of the project and noted the following:
- moved here to get away from the increasing population and new construction
- charts do not show traffic jams, accidents and roadblocks
- noise from the practice races, trial races and RPM checks
- newly constructed fast food restaurants will take away business from our local restaurants
- hills and trees will be removed
- pollution
- wildlife endangerment
Rick Thron, 27535 Echo Canyon Court, Corona, spoke in opposition of the project and noted the
following:
- moved here for the peace and tranquility
- at night I could hear the freeway
- decimal ratings in the Environment Impact Report
- post a bond for the negative items that have been discussed
- heavy fog during and after the event
- the need for additional law enforcement
- the use of alcohol at the events
- in Fontana I was three miles away from the Fontana Race Track and I could hear the trial
races
Harold Boutilier, 15245 Washington Avenue, noted that he would welcome friendly neighbors and
change that would benefit the people of Lake Elsinore but noted the following concerns:
- if the project should fall through, what assurances are there
- moved here for a calm environment
- where is the money going to go and whats in it for Lake Elsinore
- this is Lake Elsinore not track Elsinore, lets focus on projects around the lake
ADJOURNMENT
The meeting was adjourned at 7:35 p.m.
ATTEST:
obert A. Brady
Community Develop t Director
Respectfully Submitted
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Marilyn Cortez, Receptionist Typist
MINUTES
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
MAY 6, 1998
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The Planning Commission was called to order at 7:00 p.m. by Chairman Wilsey.
The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Commissioner Sands.
ROLL CALL:
PRESENT:
SANDS, SCHIFFNER, BARNES AND WILSEY
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: MATTHIES
Also present were: Community Development Director Brady, Assistant Planner Miller and
Receptionist Typist Cortez.
PUBLIC COMMENTS
There being no requests to speak the Public Comment Section was closed.
MATTHIES JOINED THE MEETING AT 7:04 PM.
CONSENT CALENDAR
MOVED BY SCHIFFNER, SECONDED BY SANDS AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS
VOTE TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR AS PRESENTED WITH THREE
CHANGES. CHANGE ONE: PAGE TWO, PARAGRAPH FOUR, SENTENCE TWO,
WHICH WILL STATE: "COMMLSSIONER WIISEY ASKED MR. VILLA IF HE HAD
EVER PRESENTED A SIGN PROGRAM FOR A CENTER IN THIS CODI114ITNITY
WITHOUT A COMPLETE SET OF PLANS AND DRAWINGS FOR PREVIEW AND
APPROVAL." CHANGE TWO: PAGE TWO, LAST PARAGRAPH, SENTENCE ONE,
WHICH WILL STATE: "COMMLSSIONER WIISEY ASKED TF ANYONE ELSE
WISHED TO SPEAK ON THE SIGN PROPOSAL AND IE' PLANNING COMMISSION
HAD FURTHER CObII~IENTS." CHANGE THREE: PAGE THREE, LAST
PARAGRAPH, SENTENCE TWO, WffiCH WILL STATE: uHE NOTED THAT THE
PAMPHLETS WERE MADE AVAIIJABLE THROUGH THE OFFICE OF THE STATE
ATTORNEY GFNF.RAi S*,
1. Minutes
a. Planning Commission Regular Meeting of -April 15, 1998
PUBLIC HEARINGS
2.
3. Liberty Founders Amendment of Circulation Element -General Plan Amendment No. 98-4
Community Development Director Brady noted that items two and three are related due
to the fact that the General Plan Review process only allows amendment to the General
Plan four rimes a year and when several General Plan Amendments are submitted staff
would work with the applicant to schedule for the same hearing date. He further noted
that Liberty Founders is submitting for a Circulation Element Amendment to the General
Plan and requesting to continue due to concerns that Staff and the applicant had with
regards to circulation issues. He stated that Rancor the applicant for General Plan
PAGE TWO -PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES -MAY 6, 1998
Amendment No. 98-1 agreed to continue to June 3, in order to allow both items to be
considered at the same time.
Chairman Wilsey opened the public hearing at 7:03 p.m.
Chairman Wilsey continued the Public Hearing to June 3, 1998 at 7:00 pm.
MOVED BY SCHIF'FNER, SECONDED BY MATTHIES AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO CONTIN[J1E THE GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT NO. 98-1
AND ZONE CHANGE NO.98-1, ASSESSORS PARCEL NO. 373-071-018 FOR RANCON
CURRENT YIELD AND TO OPEN AND CONTINUE THE AMENDMENT OF THE
CIRCULATION EI.E117ENT, GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT NO.98-4 FOR LIItERTY
FOUNDERS.
BUSIlVESS ITEMS
None.
ADJOURNED TO DESIGN REVIEW COMMIII~E
The Planning Commission adjourned to the Design Review Committee at 7:04 p.m.
The Planning Commission reconvened at 7:30 p.m.
PLANNING COMMENTS
None.
PLANNING COMMISSIONER'S COMMENTS
Commissioner Sands -Commented on the Following:
Commissioner Sands noted that he would be out of town for one week for a vacation
starting May 7, 1998.
Commissioner Barnes - No Comments.
Commissioner Matthies -Commented on the Followin¢:
Commissioner Matthies noted that she did receive a phone call in reference to the ruts in
the alleyway by her home and that Caltrans was informed and nothing has been
done to rectify the problem. Community Development Director noted that he would
follow up on that again.
Commissioner Matthies noted that she was very pleased with the Street Fair and further
noted that at the Antique Finporium there were no handrails for the stairs that went down
into there new addition.
Commissioner Schiffner Commented on the Following:
Commissioner Schiffnet commented that be had difficulty finding a parking space in the
downtown area and was informed by an operator of one of the businesses that a few of the
business owners were parking on Main Street and that the operator will be bringing it up
at the next Downtown Business Association meeting. Mr. Byrd noted that he has had to
park in the front because of lack of parkng in the back of his business and agreed with the
two hour parking regulation.
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Chairman Wilsey Commented on the Following:
Commissioner Wilsey recommended that the two hour parking in the downtown area be
readdressed by Council, in doing so Council may make further consideration regarding the
parking problems in the downtown area.
ADJOURNMENT
MOVED BY SCHIFFNER, SECONDED BY MATTHIES AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO ADJOURN THE REGULAR PLANNING COMMISSION
MEETING AT 7:40 P.M.
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ATTEST:
Planning Commission
Respectfully Submitted
Marilyn Cortez, Receptionist Typist
PUBLIC SLOPING MEETING
JUNE 8, 1998
The Public Scoping Meeting commenced at 6:15 p.m. by Senior Planner Villa.
PRESENT: Armando Villa Senior Project Planner, Duane Morita Senior Planner, Ray
O'Donnell City Engineer, Robert Brady Community Development Director and Wes Lind Project
Engineer.
Armando Villa, Senior Planner for the City of Lake Elsinore, provided an overview of the
project, its history, and its design features and treatments. He provided an overview of the
environmental process, discussed purposes of the Scoping Meeting and introduced the speakers.
Duane Morita, Senior Planner provided an overview of the environmental process and the various
issues to be discussed and those documents to be included in the EIR.
Lusk Elsinore Inc. -Annexation No. 69 General Plan Amendment No 98-3 one Change No
98-3. Environmental Im acct Report No. 98-1 and Tentative Tract Man No. 28751
A Public Scoping Meeting has been scheduled to allow the public to identify issues that should
be addressed by the Environmental hnpact Report (EIR) being prepazed for the proposed project.
The Scoping Meeting is not a public hearing on the merits of the proposed project and no decision
on the project will be taken. Public testimony is limited to identifying issues regarding the
project's potential environmental impacts. The project applicant or the City will address any
concerns expressed at the Scoping Meeting through revisions to the proposed project and/or
completion of a Final Environmental Impact Report (FE1R).
Project Location
The subject site is approximately sixty five (65) acres and is located outside the eastern boundaries
of the Ciry of Lake Elsinore. The site is bounded by the City of Lake Elsinore to the south and
west, adjacent to an azea commonly known as Tuscany Hills, which is a Specific Plan/Master
Planned community. The site is also bounded by the City of Canyon Lake to the north and east.
The site is currently within unincorporated Riverside County.
Proposed Project
The project is a tentative tract map (TTM No. 28751). Said tentative tract map proposes to
subdivide sixty five (65) acres into approximately one hundred and forty eight (148) single family
residential lots. The average lot size for the subdivision is nineteen thousand (19,000) square feet.
Neighboring roadways include Appaloosa Court to the. north, Longhorn Drive to the east
(Appaloosa and Longhorn aze within the Ciry of Canyon Lake and will not have access to the
site), Summerhill Drive and Villa Valtelena to the west, and Via De La Valle to the south.
Given that the project is currently outside the boundaries of the City of Lake Elsinore Sphere of
Influence and Corporate Boundazies, the project requires other approvals, including a General
Plan Amendment, Sphere of Influence Amendment, Pre-Zoning, Annexation into the City of Lake
Elsinore, and Annexation into the service area of the Elsinore Valley Municipal Water District
(EVMWD).
PAGE TWO -PUBLIC SCOPING MEETING -JUNE 8, 1998
PUBLIC COMMENTS
Ray Wellington, Contract City Engineer for the City of Canyon Lake noted that a letter was sent
to Senior Planner Villa dated June 5, 1998 regazding the following concerns:
- grading
- drainage
- aesthetics
ADJOURNMENT
The meeting was adjourned at 6:25 p.m.
ATTEST:
Respectfully Submitted
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Marilyn Cortez, Receptionist pint
MINLPI'ES
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
JUNE 3, 1998
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The Planning Commission was called to order at 7:00 p.m. by Chairman Wilsey.
The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Commissioner Matthies.
ROLL CALL:
PRESENT: COMMISSIONERS: SANDS, SCHIFFNER, BARNES, MATTHIES
AND WILSEY
Also present were: Community Development Director Brady, Senior Planner Villa, Ciry Engineer
O'Donnell and Receptionist Typist Cortez.
PUBLIC COMMENTS
Donald Ketch, 505 North Ellis, asked where Ranson Current Yield project would be
located. Commissioner Schiffner noted that there was a map on the wall. Commissioner
Wilsey noted that the representative for the project will be available after the Planning
Commission Hearing for. any questions that the public may have.
CONSENT CALENDAR
MOVED BY SANDS, SECONDED BY BARNES AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE
TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR AS PRESENTED.
.Minutes
a. Planning Commission Regular Meeting of -.May 6, 1998
PUBLIC HEARINGS
2. Banton Current Yield -General Plan Amendment No. 98-1
Chairman Wilsey opened the pubic hearing at 7:00 p.m.
Larry Markham, 41750 Winchester Road, Ste. H, Temecula, representing the owner
noted that they were in agreement with the conditions and rewmmendations set forth by
the Planning Division and further noted that the existing Code Enforcement issues will be
brought to compliance.
Hearing no further requests to speak, Chairman Wilsey closed the public hearing at 7:03
p.m. and asked the Planning Commission if they had any comments.
It was the consensus of the Commission that they were in agreement with the applicant's
request and looking forward to the prospects that it would bring to the City.
MOVED BY MATTHIES, SECONDED BY SCAIF'FNER AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO APPROVE THE GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT NO. 98-1,
ZONE CHANGE NO. 98-1, MITIGATED NEGATIVE DECLARATION NO. 98-2 AND
RESOLUTION NO. 98-2, ASSESSORS PARCEL NO. 373-071-018 FOR RANCON
CURRENT YIELD 12 PLUS, L.P., PER THE CONDTI'IONS OF APPROVAL.
PAGE TWO -PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES -JUNE 3, 1998
Liberty Founders Amendment of Circulation Element -General Plan Amendment No. 98-4
MOVED BY SCHIFFNER, SECONDED BY MATTHIES AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO CONTINUE THE AMENDMENT OF THE CIRCULATION
ELEMENT, GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT NO. 98-4 FOR LIBERTY FOUNDERS.
BUSINESS ITEMS
None.
ADJOURNED TO DESIGN REVIEW CObII~IITTEE
The Planning Commission adjourned to the Design Review Committee at 7:06 p.m.
The Planning Commission reconvened at 7:08 p.m.
PLANNING COMMENTS
Community Development Director Brady noted that the City attended a LAFCO Hearing
regarding two items: foran Uninwrporated Community Designation for the Meadowbrook
area except for two small portions; and a siz month extension for the Warm Springs area
to allow time for the preparation of the Unincorporated Community Designation and the
Commission granted the Unincorporated Community Designation for the Meadowbrook
area and a one year extension for the Warm Springs area. He further noted that the
Commission had gone against LAFCO Staff s recommendations. Commissioner Wilsey
noted that this will be the third time that LAFCO has gone against City staff's
recommendations.
Senior Planner Villa noted that LAFCO approved the Cleveland Ridge area without a
recommendation from the Planning Division staff.
Commissioner Schiffner asked if the City has taken action against LAFCO on the validity
of their decision. Community Development Director Brady noted that the City has filed
an action against LAFCO with regard. to the procedures taken to remove areas in
Meadowbrook from the City's sphere of influence and LAFCO has not complied with
CEQA requirements.
Community Development Director Brady noted that the Mini Grand Prix and Street Fair
would be this weekend.
PLANNING COMMISSIONER'S COMMENTS
Commissioner Sands - No Comments.
Commissioner Barnes -Commented on the Following:
Commented on the amount of dirt that Albertson's is tracking onto Caltratt's highway.
Commissioner Schiffner concurred with Commissioner Barnes and commented that
Caltran's was lacking in their performance.
Commissioner Matthies -Commented on the Following:
Commented that she would like to withdraw her abstaitunent from the May 6, 1998
Consent Calendar.
PAGE THREE -PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES -JUNE 3, 1998
Commissioner Schiffner Commented on the Followin¢:
Commented on attending the Ground Breaking Ceremony for the Driving Range on
Lakeshore Drive and spoke in favor of the project.
Chairman Wilsey Commented on the Following:
Commented on the unsightly barbecues, truck and trailers in the front of the Barbecue
Restaurant on Riverside Drive and asked if their were Conditions of Approval to prohibit
this unsightly appearance. Senior Planner Villa stated that he would look into it and
contact the current owner.
Commented that there was an automotive barrier on Lakeshore Drive near R & N
Automotive which needed reflection devices in order to be seen at night.
Commented that Elsinore Valley Municipal Water District (EVMWD) may be having a
meeting regarding the limiting of services to projects which would impact the wmmunities
growth. Commissioner Barnes noted that EVMWI) is considering a proposal to have
developers pay a higher fee in order to build a pipeline. Commissioner Schiffner noted
that the burger restaurant at the corner of Central and the other side of the freeway was
unable to open due to EVMWD's unwillingness to provide service. Community
Development Director Brady commented that what was needed to provide water service
would be an auxiliary pump to increase .the fire flow pressure. Mr. Brady further
commented that EVMWD had received a grant to wnstruct the pipeline.
ADJOURNMENT
MOVED BY SCHIF'FIVER, SECONDED BY BARNES AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS
VOTE TO ADJOURN THE REGULAR PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING AT 7:25
P.M.
ATTEST:
Robert A. Brady, ~cretary to
Planning Commission
Respectfully Submitted
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Marilyn Cortez, Receptionist ist
NIINIJTES
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
JUNE 17, 1998
The Planning Commission was called to order at 7:00 p.m. by Chairman Wilsey.
The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Commissioner Matthies.
ROLL CALL:
PRESENT: COMMISSIONERS: SANDS, SCHIFFNER, BARNES, MATTHIES
AND WILSEY
Also present were: Community Development Director Brady, Assistant Planner Miller and
Receptionist Typist Cortez.
PUBLIC COMMENTS
There being no request to speak the Public Comments section was closed.
CONSENT CALENDAR
MOVED BY SANDS, SECONDED BY MATTHIES AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS
VOTE TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR AS PRESENTED.
Minutes
a. Planning Commission Regular Meeting of-June 3, 1998
PUBLIC HEARINGS
None.
Cox Communication PCS L P -Design Review of a Personal Communication S,, stem
~PCSI -Located at Tuscany II Water Tank off of Bella Lucia Assessor's Parcel No 363
080-038
Community Development Director Brady noted that this was the only business item before
them this evening which is a proposed personal communication system for Cox
Communications to be constructed at Tuscany II Water Tank off of Bella Lucia. He asked
Assistant Planner Miller to present the proposal.
Assistant Planner Miller noted that the applicant is Cox Communication which will be
operated by U.S. Sprint, located in the Tuscany Hills Specific Plan and currently
designated OS. She further noted that the facility consists of various transmission
equipment such as a 19'6" pole with 12 antenna and the equipment will be housed in a 263
squaze foot azea, 6' block wall with anti-graffiti coating and a "wrought iron" gate. She
stated that staff recommends that the Planning Commission approve the construction of the
personal communication service facility based on the findings, plans, exhibits and
conditions of approval and. that the proposed project and equipment comply with the City
Municipal Code and the directives established by the Planning Commission.
Chairman Wilsey opened the public hearing at 7:05 p.m.
PAGE TWO -PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES -JUNE 17, 1998
Adan Madrid, 3150 Bristol Street, #250, Costa Mesa, noted that he was the representative
for Cox Communication and clazified that the 19'6" height made reference to the finish
.grade at the bottom of the installation and the 22'6" made reference to the drive aisle that
goes azound the tank. He further noted that Condition of Approval No. 8 should end with
the words "design review" and not "variance" and he requested that Condition of
Approval No. 4 be deleted or reworded in such a way that Cox Communication would
have there input on the upgrading of the facility.
Assistant Planner Miller noted that Condition of Approval No. 8 should end with the
wording "design review" and not "variance" and Condition of Approval No. 4 was
deferred to Community Development Director Brady.
A brief discussion was held on changes for Condition's of Approval No. 4. and No. 5.
Hearing no further requests to speak, Chairman Wilsey closed the public heazing at 7:03
p.m. and asked the Planning Commission if they had any comments.
MOVED BY SCHIFFNER, SECONDED BY MATTHIES AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO APPROVE THE PERSONAL COMMUNICATION SYSTEM AS
PRESENTED WITH TWO CHANGES. CHANGE ONE: CONDITION OF APPROVAL
N0.4 WILL STATE; "DESIGN REVIEW APPROVAL SHALL BE REVIEWED WITIiIN
FIVE (5) YEARS (JUNE 2003) TO INVESTIGATE WHETHER OTHER SMALLER AND
LESS VISUALLY IMPACTING COMMUNICATIONS EQUIPMENT ARE AVAILABLE.
IF THAT IS FOUND TO BE THE CASE, THE APPLICANT AND/OR OPERATOR
SHALL BE REQUIRED TO WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT
DII2ECTOR TO DETERMINE THE FEASIIiILITY OF UPGRADING THE FACILITIES."
CHANGE TWO: CONDITION OF APPROVAL NO. 8 WILL STATE; "ANY
VIOLATION OR NONCOMPLIANCE WITH THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL SHALL
BE CAUSE FOR THE REVOCATION OF THIS DESIGN REVIEW."
ADJOURNED TO DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE
The Planning Commission adjourned to the Design Review Committee at 7:15 p.m.
The Planning Commission reconvened at 7:21 p.m.
PLANNING COMMENT
None.
PLANNING COMMI SIONER' OMMENT
Commissioner Sands - ommented on the Followin
Commented on Chairman Wilsey's vacation and wished him an enjoyable vacation.
Commissioner Barne - No -omments:
Commissioner Matth~es -Commented on the Followin
Commented that she was pleased to heaz that Dr. Jessup and Dr. Small were celebrating
there 25th year in business.
PAGE THREE -PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES -JUNE 17, 1998
Commissioner Schiffner Commented on the Followine:
Commented on two signs that were in disrepair, located at the end of the south bound off
ramp of the freeway at Central and the other one at the northwest comer of Limited and
Spring Street. Community Development Director Brady commented on the sign at
Central Avenue and I-15. He noted that staff had been in contact with the owner regarding
the development of the property and will present the problem to the owner.
Chairman Wilse~Commented on the Following:
Commented on the three bazbecue trailers that aze still in the front parking lot on Riverside
Drive. Community Development Director Brady explained that it has been forwarded
to the Code Enforcement Division and Planning Division is currently working on the
problem.
Commented on staff s ability to quickly place reflectors on the barricades near the
Arco Am/Pm Mini-Mart.
ADJOURNMENT
MOVED BY SCHIFFNER, SECONDED BY BARNES AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS
VOTE TO ADJOURN THE REGULAR PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING AT 7:30
P.M.
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ATTEST:
to the
Planning
Respectfully Submitted
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Marilyn Cortez, Receptionist Typist
MINUTES
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
JULY 1,1998
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The Planning Commission was called to order at 7:00 p.m. by Chairman Wilsey.
The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Commissioner Sands.
ROLL CALL:
PRESENT: COMMISSIONERS: SANDS, SCIIIFF'NER, MATTHIES AND WILSEY
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: BARNES
Also present were: Community Development Director Brady, Assistant Planner Miller and
Receptionist Typist Cortez.
PUBLIC COMMENTS
There being no request to speak, the Public Comments section was closed.
CONSENT CALENDAR
MOVED BY MATTHIES, SECONDED BY SCHIFFNER AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS
VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR AS
PRESENTED.
1. Minutes
a. Planning Commission Regular Meeting of -June 17, 1998
PUBLIC HEARINGS
None.
Cox Communication PCS. L.P. - Desien Review of a Personal Communication Svstem
(PCS) -Located at Lake Street. Assessor's Parcel No. 390-120-007
Community Development Director Brady noted that, this is a proposed personal
communication system for Cox Communications to be constructed at Lake Street. He asked
Assistant Planner Miller to present the proposal.
Assistant Planner Miller noted that this is an application similar to the one that was heazd at
the last Planning Commission meeting which was a personal communication system for Cox
Communications located at the Tuscany II Tank and the proposed personal communication
system is located on Lake Street in the Alberhill Ranch Specific Plan on a fifty (50) acre
pazcel. She further noted that the facility consists of four antennas, associated equipment at
approximately seventeen (17') feet above grade, the pole will be painted a light sky blue, the
equipment will be enclosed in a six foot block wall with anti-graffiti coating and a wrought
iron gate, and the perimeter landscaped. She stated that staff report read nineteen feet (19')
and it should have read seventeen feet (17'). She further stated that staff recommends
.approval of the personal communication system at Lake Street with the conditions attached
to the staff report.
Chairman Wilsey opened the public hearing at 7:05 p.m.
Fred Crowe, 22690 Cactus Avenue, #300, Moreno Valley, noted that he is the representative
of the applicant and asked if anyone had any questions.
PAGE TWO -PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES -JULY 1,1998
Chairman Wilsey asked if Mr. Crowe was in agreement with the Conditions of Approval.
Mr. Crowe stated that he was in agreement with the Conditions of Approval.
Commissioner Sands asked Mr. Crowe if it was feasible for them to co-locate with Air-
Touch. Mr. Crowe noted that Cox Communication preferred to use their own equipment and
that the site would be aesthetically pleasing.
Commissioner Sands asked Mr. Crowe if the company Keith International was receptive to
co-sharing. Mr. Crowe stated that Keith International would be receptive to co-sharing.
Hearing no further requests to speak, Chairman Wilsey closed the public hearing at 7:08
p.m. and asked the Planning Commission if they had any comments.
MOVED BY SCHIFFNER, SECONDED BY MATTHIES AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS
VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO APPROVE THE PERSONAL COMMUNICATION
SYSTEM AT LAKE STREET, ASSESSORS PARCEL NO. 390-120-007 FOR COX
COMMUNICATION PCS, L.P. AS PRESENTED.
ADJOURNED TO DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE
The Planning Commission adjourned to the Design Review Committee at 7:08 p.m.
The Planning Commission reconvened at 7:21 p.m.
PLANNING COMMENTS
Community Development Director Brady congratulated and welcomed the reappointment
of Chairman Wilsey and Vice-Chainnan Schiffner.
Community Development Director Brady noted that the reorganization of Chairman and
Vice-Chairman would be held at the August 5, 1998 meeting.
Community Development Director Brady noted that a letter that was sent to the owner of the
barbecue facility on Riverside Drive to remove the bazbecue trailers and a copy of the letter
was distributed to the commissioners. Mr. Brady further noted that the commissioners were
correct in stating that the portable barbecues may not be allowed in the pazking lot of the
business.
PLANNING COMMISSIONER'S COMMENTS
Commissioner Sands -Commented on the Followin
Commented on looking forward to working with Chairman Wilsey and Commissioner
Schiffner for an extended period of time.
Commissioner Matthies -Commented on the Followin
Commented on looking forwazd to working with Chairman Wilsey and Commissioner
Schiffner for an extended period of time.
Commissioner Schiffner Commented on the Followin
Commented that he was happy to see that the Chimes building was putting on a new roof.
PAGE THREE -PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES -JULY 1,1998
Chainnan Wilsey Commented on the Followine:
Commented that he was pleased to see the sign on Lincoln Street, reading "Watch Excessive
Downhill Speed."
Stated that he was almost involved in a collision and suggested that the City post another
"Watch Excessive Downhill Speed" sign and a 35-MPH sign about halfway down Lincoln
Street. He also suggested that the Police Department utilize radar in that area.
Noted that he would be on a business trip the meeting of July 15, 1998.
ADJOURNMENT
MOVED BY WILSEY, SECONDED BY SANDS AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE
OF THOSE PRESENT TO ADJOURN THE REGULAR PLANNING COMMISSION
MEETING AT 7:28 P.M.
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ATTEST:
obert A. Brady, Secretary e
Planning Commission
Respectfully Submitted
~Q/u1-~.. C... ~--Y
Marilyn Cortez, Receptionist Typist
MINUTES
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
JULY 15,1998
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The Planning Commission was called to order at 7:OOp.m. by Vice Chairman Schiffner.
The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Commissioner Barnes.
ROLL CALL:
PRESENT: COMMISSIONERS: SANDS, SCHIFFNER AND BARNES
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: WILSEY AND MATTHIES
Also present were: Community Development Director Brady, Assistant Planner Miller and
Receptionist Typist Cortez.
PUBLIC COMMENTS
There being no request to speak, the Public Comments section was closed.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
None.
BUSINESS ITEMS
None.
ADJOURNED TO DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE
The Planning Commission adjourned to the Design Review Committee at 7:03 p.m.
COMMISSIONER MATTHIES JOINED THE MEETING AT 7:04 PM.
The Planning Commission reconvened at 7:08 p.m.
CONSENT CALENDAR
MOVED BY MATTHIES, SECONDED BY SANDS AND CARRIED BY A VOTE OF 3-0
WITH BARNES ABSTAINING TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR.
Minutes
a. Planning Commission Regular Meeting of July 1, 1998.
PLANNING COMMENTS
Community Development Director Brady noted that he would not be attending the August
5, 1998 meeting, if approved for a vacation. He further noted that Senior Planner Villa,
Senior Planner Morita and Assistant Planner Miller would be in attendance for that meeting.
Community Development Director Brady noted that this evening after the Planning
Commission meeting, staff will be in attendance for a meeting at Jean Hayman Elementary
School regazding the possible redevelopment expansion in the Lakeland Village, Wildomar,
Cleveland Ridge and Sedco Hills area. He further noted that the County is proposing to
adopt a redevelopment azea, which is adjacent to the City limits.
PAGE TWO -PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES -JULY 15,1998
PLANNING COMMISSIONER'S COMMENTS
Commissioner Barnes -Commented on the Followine:
Commented on looking forwazd to working with Chairman Wilsey and Commissioner
Schiffner for an extended period of time.
Commissioner Matthies -Commented on the Followine:
Noted that she concurred with Commissioner Barnes and apologized for being tazdy.
Commissioner Schiffner - No Comments.
Commissioner Sands - No Comments.
ADJOURNMENT
MOVED BY MATTHIES, SECONDED BY BARNES AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS
VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO ADJOURN THE REGULAR PLANNING COMMISSION
MEETING AT 7:15 P.M.
G~z,~
ATTEST:
1
obert A. Bra y, Secret y to the
Planning Commission
Respectfully Submitted
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Marilyn Cortez, Receptionist Typist
MINUTES
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
August 5,1998
The Planning Commission was called to order at 7:00 p.m. by Chairman Wilsey.
The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Commissioner Matthies.
ROLL CALL:
PRESENT: COMMISSIONERS: SANDS, SCIIIIF"FNER, MATTHIES, WILSEY AND
BARNES
Also present were: Senior Planner Villa, Receptionist Typist Cortez and Assistant Planner Miller
PUBLIC COMMENTS
There being no request to speak, the Public Comments section was closed.
REORGANIZATION
Chairman Wilsey openednominations for Chair of the Planning Commission.
MOVED BY SANDS, SECONDED BY MATTHIES AND CARRIED BY A VOTE OF 4-0 TO
NOMINATE WILSEY AS THE PLANNING COMMISSION CHAIRMAN WITH WILSEY
ABSTAINING.
Chairman Wilsey opened nominations for Vice Chair of the Planning Commission,
Design Review Committee Chair and Design Review Committee Vice Chair.
MOVED BY SANDS, SECONDED BY BARNES AND CARRIED BY A VOTE OF 4-0 TO
NOMINATE SCHIFFNER AS THE PLANNING COMMISSION VICE-CHAIRMAN
WITH SCHIFFNER ABSTAINING.
MOVED BY BARNES, SECONDED BYWILSEY AND CARRIED BY A VOTE OF 4-0
TO NOMINATE SANDS AS THE DESIGN REVIEW CHAIRMAN WITH SANDS
ABSTAINING.
MOVED BY SANDS, SECONDED BY BARNES AND CARRIED BY A VOTE OF 4-0 TO
NOMINATE MATTHIES AS THE DESIGN REVIEW VICE-CHAIRPERSON WITH
MATTHIES ABSTAINING.
CONSENT CALENDAR
MOVED BY MATTHIES, SECONDED BY SANDS AND CARRIED BY A VOTE OF 4-0
WITH WILSEY ABSTAINING TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR
Minutes
a. Planning Commission Regulaz Meeting of July 15, 1998.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
LA Cellular -Variance No. 98 2 and Amendment No. 1 to Desian Review -Located at Top
of Hill at Sunnyslope Avenue. Assessor's Parcel No. 375-224-018.026 and 031
Senior Planner Villa congratulated the Commissioners on there appointments.
Senior Planner Villa noted that this is a proposed Variance and Amendment to a pre-
approved Design Review project for LA Cellular to exceed the maximum height allowed
PAGE TWO -PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES -AUGUST 5,1998
for structures in the R-2 Zoning District, which limits the height to thirty feet (30') and the
Variance would allow a fifty foot (50') monopole, therefore exceeding the maximum height
by twenty feet (20') and the proposal requires the amendment of the already approved
Design review. He further noted that on July lb, 1997 the Planning Commission approved
a Design Review for the construction of a thirty foot (30') monopole antenna for wireless
telecommunications and accessory equipment and since then the applicant has learned that
Elsinore Water District is now constructing a thirty five foot (35') water reservoir, which will
obstruct reception. He stated that to rectify this problem the. applicant is proposing to extend
the height of the existing monopole by adding an additional twenty-foot (20') high extension
and staff has visited the site and found that the site is surrounded by large established
eucalyptus trees that will somewhat conceal the existing monopole and will remain once the
project is completed and the original Design Review approval required additional
landscaping to further minimize the visual impact of the proposed operations. He further
stated that staff recommends approval of Variance No. 98-2 and Amendment No. 1 of
Design Review for the construction of the extension of the steel monopole at Assessor's
Parcel no. 375-224-019, 026 and 031 based on the Findings, Exhibit "A" and the Conditions
of Approval.
Chairman Wilsey opened the public hearing at 7:08 p.m.
David Leonard, David Leonard & Associates representing LA Cellular presented Dan Haze
with LA Cellulaz and thanked staff for an accurate and thorough staff report. He noted that
the owner of the property is now constructing athirty-five foot (35') reservoir, which is why
the applicant had to adapt to the new facility height by proposing a Variance to exceed the
maximum height allowed and Amendment to the already existing site. He fiuther noted that
the applicant is in agreement with the Staff Report and the Conditions of Approval and will
answer any questions.
Hearing no further requests to speak, Chairman Wilsey closed the public hearing at 7:11 p.m.
and asked the Planning Commission if they had any comments.
Commissioner Sands asked if there was cun•ent interference with the tank. Mr. Leonard
noted that the tank has not been built yet.
Commissioner Sands asked the applicant if they were assured that the thirty five-foot (35')
high water reservoir would be built. Mr. Leonard noted that they were assured that the water
tank will be built thirty-five feet (35') high.
Commissioner Barnes asked if they had considered mounting the antennas on the steel water
tanks and if they had discussed it with the Elsinore Water District.
Dan Haze noted that they did come across some problems in doing so and prefer not to place
the antennas on the steel water tanks.
MOVED BY MATTHIES, SECONDED BY BARNES AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS
VOTE TO APPROVE VARIANCE N0.98-2 AND AMENDMENT TO DESIGN REVIEW
FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF A STEEL MONOPOLE CELLULAR ANTENNA AT
ASSESSOR'S PARCEL NO. 375-224-018, 026 AND 031 FOR LA CELLULAR AS
PRESENTED.
None.
ADJOURNED TO DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE
The Planning Commission adjourned to the Design Review Committee at 7:12 p.m.
The Planning Commission reconvened at 7:17 p.m.
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PLANNING COMMENTS
Senior Planner Villa asked for input on the new agenda coversheet. All Commissioners
agreed that it was a great improvement.
PLANNING COMMISSIONER'S COMMENTS
Commissioner Sands -Commented on the Followin
Asked if anyone had seen the chainlink fence with barbwire at the location of Franklin and
Main Street. Senior Planner Villa noted that the Code Enforcement Division brought it to
his attention and the Planning Division and Code Enforcement Division will probably visit
the site tomorrow and send a letter to the owner of the property.
Commissioner Matthies -Commented on the Followin
Congratulated Florence Mowrer's work on the toxic and hazardous station.
Commissioner Sehiffner -Commented on the Followin
Asked if the monument signs height for the Albertsons site been approved through Design
Review.
A brief discussion was held on the height of the monument signs for the Albertsons site.
Senior Planner Villa noted that he had discussed the site distance with the City Engineer and
that the monument signs were approved through Design Review.
Commissioner Sands -Commented on the Followine:
Asked if the signs for the Ford Dealership were to go before the Design Review Committee.
Senior Planner Villa noted that the anticipated date for Design Review would be in
September.
Chairman Wilsey -Commented on the followine:
Noted that he wanted to thank everyone for their confidence in him and will do his best to
serve as Chairman for the Planning Commission.
ADJOURNMENT
MOVED BY SCHIFFNER, SECONDED BY BARNES AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS
VOTE TO ADJOURN THE REGULAR PLANNING COMMISSIO MEETING AT 7:30
P.M.
AL WILSEY, CHAIRMAN
ATTEST:
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Arena o Villa, Acting Secretary to the
Planning Commission
Respectfully Submitted
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Marilyn Cortez, Receptionist Typist
MINUTES
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
August 19,1998
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The Planning Commission was called to order at 7:00 p.m. by Chairman Wilsey.
The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Commissioner Sands.
ROLL CALL:
PRESENT: COMMISSIONERS:
SANDS, SCHIFFNER, WILSEY AND
BARNES
ABSENT: COMMISSIONER:
MATTHIES
Also present were: Community Development Director Brady, City Engineer O'Donnell, Senior
Planner Villa, Receptionist Typist Cortez and Assistant Planner Miller
PUBLIC COMMENTS
There being no request to speak, the Public Comments section was closed.
CONSENT CALENDAR
MOVED BY SCHIFFNER, SECONDED BY SANDS AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS
VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR.
1. Minutes
a. Planning Commission Regulaz Meeting of August 5, 1998.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
None.
BUSINESS ITEMS
2. Diamond Central Investors LLC -Industrial Project No. 98-2. Located at the Central
Business Pazk "Phase II"
Community Development Director Brady noted that this is a large industrial project that will
be an addition to the Central Business Park. He asked Senior Planner Villa to present the
proposal.
Senior Planner Villa noted that this is an industrial project for the construction of four (4)
industrial buildings totaling 44,580 squaze feet pursuant to Section 17.82 and Section
17.54.130 of the Lake Elsinore Municipal Code and the site is located at the northwest comer
of Collier Avenue and Crane Street within the existing Central Business Park which has
access via Collier Avenue and Crane Street. He explained that on August 16, 1989,
Industrial Project No. 89-7 known as the Central Business Pazk was reviewed and approved
by the Planning Commission and subsequently on September 12, 1989 the City Council gave
final approval with fifty seven (57) Conditions of Approval. He noted that the final phase
known as Phase II of the Central Business Pazk encompassed nine (9) buildings totaling
35,812 square feet was never constructed; however the street and landscaping improvements
were completed and Industrial Project No. 98-2 proposes to build out Phase II of the Central
Business Park with four larger buildings totaling 44,580 squaze feet; Parcel Mergers and Lot
Line Adjustments will be necessary to carryout this plan. He indicated that the original
approval in 1989 was for the construction of approximately 152,662 square feet of building
space throughout the Business Park and the proposed change to Phase II will increase the
area by approximately 8,768 square feet; therefore increasing the overall
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complex building space to 161,430 square feet. He noted that the Floor Area Ratio in the
Business Park Land Use Designation pursuant to the Land Use Plan of the General Plan is
.40, the site is approximately 9.67 acres; therefore allowing up to 168,940 square feet of
building space and the increase is in compliance with allowable Business Park Land Use
Designation for the Floor Area Ratio. He further noted that the four buildings will be
consistent in design to the approved existing buildings and staff recommends that the
Planning Commission recommend to the City Council approval of Industrial Project No. 98-
2 based on Exhibits A through. F, Findings and the attached Conditions of Approval.
Marty Smith, 41790 Winchester Road,#G, Temecula, noted that he has a partnership called
Diamond Central Investors, LLC that holds title to the property and he introduced Mr.
Ertsick and Mr. Nunez as his partners. He noted that all four (4) of the buildings are in
escrow with local manufacturers. He further noted that staff has been very helpful in
expediting this project and looks forwazd to doing business in our community.
Chairman Wilsey asked Mr. Smith if he had an opportunity to review the Conditions of
Approval and if he had any questions or comments.
Mr. Smith stated that he had just received the document by mail this morning and did not
have the opportunity to read the document and did not see anything that would lead him to
be overly concerned.
Hearing no further requests to speak, Chairman Wilsey asked the Planning Commission if
they had any comments.
Commissioner Schiffner asked Mr. Smith if he is in agreement with the following Conditions
of Approval. Mr. Smith stated that he is in agreement even though he had not had time to
review the Conditions of Approval.
Commissioner Barnes stated that he would like add to Condition of Approval No. 25 the
phrase after Civil Engineer, "registered in the state of California."
Commissioner Sands asked Mr. O'Donnell if the dollaz amount had been paid in Condition
of Approval No. 18. Mr. O'Donnell stated that it has not been paid and needs to be paid.
Chairman Wilsey asked if Condition of Approval No. 16 will include the original approval.
Senior Planner stated that he had extracted some of the conditions from the original approval
that pertained to this project and that most of the conditons were akeady in compliance.
MOVED BY SCHIFFNER, SECONDED BY BARNES AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS
VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO APPROVE INDUSTRIAL PROJECT NO. 98-2
LOCATED AT THE CENTRAL BUSINESS PARK AT CRANE AND COLLIER "PHASE
II" WITH THE ADDITION OF CONDITION NO. 25 WHICH STATES: "PRECISE
GRADING PLANS SHALL BE PREPARED BY A REGISTERED STATE OF
CALIFORNIA CIVIL ENGINEER AND APPROVED PRIOR TO GRADING PERMIT
ISSUANCE. PRIOR TO ANY GRADING, THE APPLICANT SHALL OBTAIN A
GRADING PERMIT AND POST APPROPRIATE SECURITY."
ADJOURNED TO DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE
The Planning Commission adjourned to the Design Review Committee at 7:13 p.m.
The Planning Commission reconvened at 7:20 p.m.
PLANNING COMMENTS
Community Development Director Brady noted that there was a Study Session held today
regarding pazking on Main Street and the following was discussed; two (2) Hour Parking;
Methods and Ways to Provide Additional Parking on the Street; and staff encouraged to park
PAGE THREE -PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES -AUGUST 19,1998
in the rear pazking area. He further noted that as a result of the meeting a committee will be
formed by the Main Street Operators which will meet with staff to discuss methods and will
be brought back before City Council.
PLANNING COMMISSIONER'S COMMENTS
Commissioner Schiffner -Commented on the Following:
Stated that he was very pleased with the new look of the Chimes.
Stated that the Building and Engineering staff need to make the final approval on all plan
checks and to except the plans just because it was approved by a State Licensed Engineer
was not acceptable.
Community Development Duector Brady noted that the City Engineer reviews the plans.
Commissioner Sands -Commented on the Following:
Asked staff what was the outcome of the fencing on Franklin Street and Main Street.
Senior Planner Villa noted that Code Enforcement and Planning will be drafting a letter to
the property owner.
Chairman Wilsev -Commented on the following:
Noted that in the course of his business a few individuals such as contractors and builders
had stated "that the outsiding of planchecks, etc. had gotten a little carried away" and "that
it was almost at the point of being unjust" and the concern was that the individual was being
charged for everytime the plans had to be sent out to be plan checked. He stated that for the
record in regards to planchecking, there should be an effort not to inconvenience customers
who aze coming into our town.
Community Development Director Brady noted that depending on the quality of the
submittal, it is unfortunate that there are times that the plans will have to be resent for
corrections and he will look into the issue and will strive to provide the best customer service
possible.
Commissioner Barnes noted that the firm that he is employed by charges a flat percentage
based on the estimated construction value.
Community Development Director Brady noted that the City also uses the same fee structure
for plan checking.
Chairman Wilsey noted that several yeazs ago he made a recommendation that staff attend
a Dale Carnegie Course to assist staff in realizing that they have a lot of authority and should
not abuse that authority. He explained that with the excess work we need to learn how to
deal with the public in a positive manner.
Community Development Director Brady noted that in speaking with City Manager
Watenpaugh, they both shazed a philosophy of customer service orientation and staff has
been doing a good job. He further noted that as the budget allows, he will offer training in
customer service orientation which would be beneficial.
ADJOURNMENT
MOVED BY SANDS, SECONDED BY BARNES AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE
OF THOSE PRESENT TO ADJOURN THE REGULAR PLANNING COMMISSION
MEETING AT 7:35 P.M.
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ATTEST:
Respectfully Subnritted
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Marilyn Co t z, Receptionist Typist
MINUTES
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
September 2,1998
The Planning Commission was called to order at 7:00 p.m. by Chairman Wilsey.
The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Commissioner Schiffner.
ROLL CALL:
PRESENT:
SANDS, SCHIFFNER, WILSEY AND BARNES
ABSENT: COMMISSIONER: MATTHIES
Also present were: Community Development Director Brady, Assistant Planner Miller, and
Receptionist Typist Cortez.
PUBLIC COMMENTS
There being no request to speak, the Public Comments section was closed.
CONSENT CALENDAR
Chairman Wilsey referred to Page 2, 9th paragraph, 1st sentence, of the Minutes and stated the
sentence should read "...include the original conditions of approval."
MOVED BY SANDS, SECONDED BY SCHIFFNER AND CARRIED BY A UNANIMOUS
VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR
Minutes
a. Planning Commission Regular Meeting of August 19, 1998.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
None.
BUSINESS ITEMS
2. Industrial No. 98-1- Mitigated Negative Declaration No. 98-2 -Located at 571 Birch Street
- APN 377-151-038
Community Development Director Brady noted that this is a 12,600 square foot industrial
building to be located in the industrial area. He asked Assistant Planner Miller to present the
proposal.
Assistant Planner Miller indicated she would first like to make a few corrections to the staff
report. She noted on page 1, under "Request", the sentence should state "12,600 square
foot" not "12,900 square foot"; the second correction is on page 3, the second paragraph
under "Discussion"; the phrase "relating to" should be removed; the last correction is on
page 3, paragraph 3, and she would like to add the phrase "see exhibit C" at the end of the
paragraph.
Assistant Planner Miller noted this is a Design Review to approve a 12,600 square foot tilt-
up industrial warehouse building. The applicant is Triple 7 Development. She explained that
the project is located in the "Warm Springs Industrial Center" on approximate one-acre site
and the Parcel Map was originally approved in 1986. She fiuther noted the present zoning
is M-1 and the General Plan designation is Business Park and the use is in conformance with
the General Plan. Assistant Planner Miller noted that a Mitigated Negative Declaration was
prepared in compliance with CEQA and found all environmental impacts could be mitigated
PAGE 2 -PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES -SEPTEMBER 2, 1998
to less than a significant level; staff found that all the design standards including the set
backs, fencing, pazking, landscaping, and the building aesthetics had been met and, therefore
recommend that the Planning Commission recommend to the City Council to adopt the
Mitigated Negative Declazation No. 98-2 and approve the Industrial Project No. 98-1 based
on the findings, exhibits, and attached conditions of approval.
Dennis Kim Quon, Studio 7 Architecture and Planning, expressed his appreciation to the
staff, especially Robert Brady, Armando Villa, and Linda Miller. He stated the process has
gone very well. He said they aze in agreement with the staff report and the conditions of
approval.
Commissioner Barnes requested clarification of page 3, pazagraph 5. Community
Development Director Brady said the sentence should read "...twenty-four inch (24")
box....". Commissioner Barnes requested clarification of Conditions of Approval #10.
Community Development Director Brady stated that according to City regulations, all
outdoor storage areas shall be permitted only in conjunction with the onsite business use. He
further explained that all storage yards shall be enclosed on all sides with a screen a
minimum of six feet in height as measured from the highest grade elevation either side of the
screen. Outdoor storage and screening is subject to the Community Development Director
or designee. Commissioner Barnes asked if Condition #12 should read "No exterior roof
ladders." Community Development Director Brady agreed. Commissioner Barnes asked
if the downspouts had to be located within the exterior wall. Community Development
Director Brady noted that Condition #14 is the standazd condition of approval for industrial.
Chairman Wilsey asked if there were any conditions from the Tentative Parcel Map and
earlier approval that needed to be forwarded on this Design Review proposal. Community
Development Director Brady indicated that even if the conditions were not specifically stated
in this proposal, they would still apply.
MOVED BY SCHIFFNER, SECONDED BY BARNES AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO RECOMMEND THAT THE CITY
COUNCIL ADOPT MITIGATED NEGATIVE DECLARATION NO. 98-2 AND
APPROVE INDUSTRIAL PROJECT NO. 98-1 WITH THE AMENDMENT OF
CONDITION OF APPROVAL #12 TO READ "NO EXTERIOR LADDERS SHALL
BE PERMITTED."
ADJOURNED TO DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE
The Planning Commission adjourned to the Design Review Committee at 7:11 p.m.
The Planning Commission reconvened at 7:29 p.m.
PLANNING COMMENTS
Community Development Director Brady stated that one staff member was sent out to the
Juniper Flats fire to assist with inspections. He also stated that the campground is scheduled
to open this weekend and the facilities will be available for overnight camping.
PLANNING COMMISSIONER'S COMMENTS
Commissioner Sands -Commented on the Followine:
Commissioner Sands indicated he will be out of town for a week.
Commissioner Bames -Commented on the Followine:
Commissioner Barnes stated he made the earlier comments because the members of his
Homeowners Association asked to have an adults only swim time. He noted they were sued
PAGE 3 -PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES -SEPTEMBER 2, 1998
due to discrimination. The suit was not dropped until the Association reversed its decision.
Commissioner Schiffner -Commented on the Followine:
Commissioner Schiffner requested afollow-up on some signs in town. Community
Development Director Brady explained staffhas made contact with the owners at Central and
I-15, and the developer has been requested to remove the sign.
Chairman Wilsey -Commented on the Following:
Chairman Wilsey noted that some time ago there was a lengthy discussion about sign
abatement. One of the signs that was mentioned was the Alamo Market sign, especially the
lower portion. He suggested this sign be added to the list of signs to be abated.
Chairman Wilsey indicated he will not be at the September 16, 1998 meeting.
ADJOURNMENT
MOVED BY SANDS, SECONDED BY BARNES AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE
OF THOSE PRESENT TO ADJOURN THE REGULAR PLANNING COMMISSION
MEETING AT 7:37 P.M.
Respectfully Submitted
M i/~ennings, ~ ommunity `
Development Secretary
ATTE~:
L
obert A. Br dy, Secr ary to the
Planning Commissio
MINUTES
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
September 16,1998
The Planning Commission was called to order at 7:00 p.m. by Vice Chairman Schiffner.
The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Commissioner Barnes.
ROLL CALL:
PRESENT: COMMISSIONERS: SCHIFFNER, SAND5, BARNES, MATTHIES
ABSENT: COMMISSIONER: WILSEY
Also present were: Community Development Director Brady, Senior Planner Villa, Senior Planner
Morita, Assistant Planner Miller, City Engineer O'Donnell, Deputy City Clerk Bryning, and
Community Development Secretary Hennings.
PUBLIC COMMENTS
There being no request to speak, the Public Comments section was closed.
CONSENT CALENDAR
MOVED BY SANDS, SECONDED BY BARNES AND CARRIED BY A 3-0 VOTE,
WITH MATTHIES ABSTAINING AND WILSEY ABSENT, TO APPROVE THE
CONSENT CALENDAR.
Minutes
a. Planning Commission Regulaz Meeting of September 2, 1998.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
2. La Laguna Estates Specific Plan No. 92-4 and Environmental Impact Renort No. 92-2: La
Laguna Estates
Community Development Director Brady noted this is for the La Laguna Specific Plan,
which was originally initiated in 1992. He asked Senior Planner Morita to present the
project.
Senior Planner Morita stated the project is located in the westend of the City and covers
approximately 498 acres. He explained the surrounding area and access to the pazcel. He
indicated the Plan proposed to provide 480 Single Family Detached dwelling units, 180
Single Family Attached dwelling units, and approximately 282 acres of open land.
Senior Planner Morita indicated staff believes the project is a benefit to the community and
they are recommending approval for the following reasons: the applicant is a participating
property owner of CFD 88-3; the Specific Plan is designed according to the densities and
provisions according to the La Laguna Development Agreement which was approved by the
City in 1990 and the General Plan which designates the area as Future Specific Plan B; the
project's proposed developable areas aze designed to stay away from sensitive areas; and all
issues relating to design, future grading, trails, and improvements have been resolved and are
acceptable to both staff and the Applicant. Senior Planner Morita further noted there are two
remaining issues that staff and the Applicant can not come to agreement on and staff is
asking the Planning Commission for further guidance regarding these issues. He indicated
at the January 6, 1998 City Council and Planning Commission Joint Study Session it was
deemed that gated communities were not acceptable to the City. Senior Planner Morita
noted the applicant is aware of this decision but they have chosen to continue to propose a
gated community. Senior Planner Morita further stated that at the same Joint Session it was
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suggested that the Specific Plan contain language that would require state-of--the-art
standards and technology for the fencing. He indicated the applicant felt this was too
restrictive and instead chooses to include language which states fencing shall comply with
UBC standards. Senior Planner Morita stated from a planning standpoint, staff does not
believe these issues detract or compromise the quality of the proposed project, and therefore
recommends the Planning Commission recommend the approval of La Laguna Estates
Specific Plan No. 92-4 by Resolution No. 98-4 based on the findings noted below and the
attached conditions of approval subject to recommended revisions to language contained in
the Specific Plan document, especially any revisions relating to the two remaining issues and
recommends certification of the La Laguna Environmental Impact Report No. 92-2.
Mr. Eric Ruby, Stantech Consulting, has been the Project Manager for the Environmental
Consultant for the La Laguna project since the initiation of the planning process in 1991.
Mr. Ruby gave a brief overview of the CEQA process that the project has been through. He
indicated that the conclusion of this process is that all environmental effects associated with
the implementation of the La Laguna Estates project have been reduced to less than a
significant level except for cumulative air quality and aesthetics. Mr. Ruby stated that for
these reasons a Statement of Overriding Considerations will need to be adopted along with
the certification of the EIR. Senior Planner Morita noted that this Statement has been
prepared and is part of the Environmental Record.
Mr. Kris Weber of Hunsaker & Associates, Civil Engineer, indicated he is representing the
applicant. Mr. Weber again went through a description of the project, including type of
dwelling units and surrounding topography. He stated the plan proposes a lot layout that
consists of primarily cul-de-sac streets which gives an intimate feel to the neighborhood. Mr.
Weber noted the applicant wanted to include the option of a gated community to allow the
option to be brought forward to the Tentative Tract Map level. He indicated the applicant
wants to do what the state of the art is for the fencing however, this is an ambiguous term and '
would rather use a term that is standard throughout the industry such as UBC. Mr. Weber
further stated he feels Condition of Approval #17, which references a school agreement, is
in conflict with the development agreement. Mr. Weber stated they would also like to add
"temporary structures" to the list of approved structures within the disturbed area of Rice
Canyon. He indicated there have been preliminary talks of turning these open areas over to
groups such as the Girl or Boy Scouts and they would like to have the option of building
temporary structures within the disturbed areas to support their activities. Mr. George Dale,
representing La Laguna Estates, noted the Specific Plan already allows for temporary
structures in the disturbed areas. He stated what the applicant is asking for is the ability to
build structures that might be of a permanent nature. Mr. Dale stated that although he is
unsure which group may end up with the lands, an example of what the Boy Scouts or Girl
Scouts would like is a first aid shelter or a place to store items such as cots. Mr. Dale noted
this disturbed area is a very minor part of the total open land.
Mr. Mike Aller, Centex Homes, indicated Centex Homes constructed the subdivision that
is adjacent to the La Laguna properly. He noted he has been working with Mr. Dale through
both projects and confirmed Centex Homes supports La Laguna. Mr. Aller stated La Laguna
will help reduce the CFD taxes for all the property owners involved. He indicated the
infrastructure that was built for Centex Homes was sized to handle this level of development.
Shannon Akins, Dale Court, stated when she bought her home there was no fence at the end
of her street and she thought the open land was for the people to hike and enjoy the land.
Ms. Akins indicated she would like to know if the fence will go around the entire community
and allow no one use of the land. Mr. Aller stated he built the fence because there was a lot
of vandalism. He noted the water district was having problems with their gates being torn
down. Mr. Aller indicated there have been discussions with the city to include this in the
regional trail system that passes through that area. Mr. Aller noted Mr. Dale is open to
working with the City on the trails and would be happy to turn the open areas over to the
City; but until that happens the area is private property and there is a liability issue. Mr.
Aller indicated the goal is to have the land be used by as many people as possible. Mr. Dale
PAGE 3 -PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES -SEPTEMBER 16, 1998
stated his major concern is the liability issue; whether it is a fire or someone getting injured.
He noted he has owned the property since 1978 and is not in favor of public use of the land
until there is some control over the land use.
Ms. Marilyn Barnett, Dale Court, noted earlier in the presentation that it was mentioned a
future developer might develop this property. She asked if this is the final plan or is
someone else going to come in and change the plans. Ms. Barnett also mentioned that Rice
Canyon is in the "A" Flood Zone with FEMA. She noted the developer should be careful
giving the property over to the Scouts because they will have expensive flood insurance on
any structures that are built.
Ms. Linda VanDyke, White Sails Court, stated Centex Homes sales people assured her, when
she moved here two yeazs ago, there would be no development behind her property. She
noted she is against this project.
Ms. Linda Silva, Dale Court, indicated she was also told by the Centex Sales People there
would be no development behind her property and the fence was built after she moved in to
her house. Ms. Silva asked for clarification of the location of the disturbed azea as the land
at the end of the court is all natural and includes a stream, oak trees, and other vegetation.
Ms. Silva also asked if the access for the Scouts or the construction traffic will be Dale
Court. Ms. Silva repeated that the land is in the flood zone. She also requested a better
explanation of what "less than significant" means in relation to aesthetics and air quality and
what is a UBC code.
Senior Planner Morita indicated the EIR does note the flood zone. He explained that in 1990
the City approved a development plan for this area that indicates the densities that will be
built in this area. Senior Planner Morita said the Specific Plan is only a zoning document
and indicated the next step is that the applicant or future builders will file a tentative tract
map. He explained the lots that are shown on the maps tonight are just for illustrative
purposes and the actual lots have not yet been defined. Senior Planner Morita indicated the
maintenance road that leads to the water tank defines the disturbed area. Mr. Dale mentioned
that a few yeazs ago there were people living up in Rice Canyon and leveled the land so there
would not be a problem with flooding in that area. Mr. Dale further explained there will not
be much development in the disturbed azea based on the habitat mitigation plan. Senior
Planner Morita noted the UBC is the Uniform Building Code. He stated the Environmental
Consultant has determined air quality and aesthetics impacts will occur. Senior Planner
Morita explained the Statement of Overriding Considerations admits the environmental
impacts but provides benefits of the project that offsets the environmental impacts of the
project. He stated the construction traffic will be addressed during the Tentative Tract Map
process. Senior Planner Morita outlined the process before construction can begin: the
Specific Plan will go to the City Council; there will be a hearing on the Tentative Tract Map
before both the Planning Commission and City Council; then permits will be issued. Mr.
Dale indicated he does not have a timeline for the project at this time.
Senior Planner Morita noted the current Condition of Approval #17 states the applicant is
to meet with the school district and negotiate a mitigation agreement. He stated that this is
standard language however, any agreements aze actually between the school district and
applicant. Senior Planner Morita indicated staff recommends deleting Condition of Approval
#17 as this is also covered under the Development Agreement and State law. He further
stated staff does not feel permanent structures in Rice Canyon will undermine the mitigation
plan. Senior Planner Morita suggested the following condition be included: "The applicant
shall be permitted to construct smaller permanent structures that are not uninhabitable within
those areas of Rice Canyon that have been previously disturbed subject to a Conditional Use
Permit".
Mr. Joseph Minutella, Dale Court, inquired about plans for flood control. City Engineer
O'Donnell stated the Rice Canyon projects are scheduled but are going to require another
bond issue that will not be scheduled for another couple of years. He indicated the flood
control project will not have anything to do with Rice Canyon except for the minor structures
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that maybe constructed. Mr. Minutella noted Centex Homes told him flood control would
be built within the next year and that Centex Homes would pay for the first years flood
insurance.
Ms. Silva asked if La Laguna is asking for a zone change. Senior Planner Morita said it is
not necessary as the underlying zoning is R-1 (Single Family Residential). Community
Development Director Brady noted the Specific Plan will replace the R-1 zoning, and asked
Senior Planner Morita for clarification. Senior Planner Morita indicated the Specific Plan
has four land use designations: Single Family Detached (SFD), Single Family Attached
(SFA), Open space, and Natural Open space. He further explained the Single Family
Attached dwellings may include townhomes or duplexes, but the applicant is aware the City
does not want to see rentals.
Vice Chairman Schiffner stated that the Specific Plan also mentions the possibility of minor
commercial operations opposite the park. Senior Planner Morita indicated the option to
include neighborhood commercial as a Conditional Use was included to provide flexibility.
He further explained the Conditional Use process would require a public hearing and the
residents would be notified. Senior Planner Morita said some examples of residential
commercial uses include a donut shop or a video store. He explained these uses would only
be allowed in those areas across from the park as designated.
There being no further public comment, Vice Chairman Schiffner closed the Public Hearing
at 8:02 pm.
Commissioner Barnes noted the Environmental Laws are set up to curtail random
development and stated the environmental documents related to this project are very
thorough. He recommended the Commission approve the Certification of the
Environmental Impact Report, the Specific Plan and the resolution for this project.
Commissioner Matthies said her concern is regarding the Construction Management Plan.
She asked if the plan would state specific times, days, and accesses. City Engineer
O'Donnell stated this is correct. Commissioner Matthies requested an explanation of the
difference between the UBC and the City Code. She indicated the City spent a lot of time
putting together the City Code. Senior Planner Morita indicated the difference is the type
of materials, not the design. Commissioner Matthies inquired if there is a gated community
and there is a use for the Scouts, where would the Scouts access the land. Mr. Dale stated
that at this time he is unsure. Commissioner Matthies asked if the hikers will have to go
around the property to get to the forest. Mr. Dale stated the only access to the property is the
maintenance road to the water tower and this is a nonexclusive easement. He explained the
road is private property and is not open to the public. Commissioner Matthies indicated she
is not opposed to deleting Condition of Approval #17 and adding #30.
Commissioner Sands noted it appears staff is in temporary agreement in regards to gated
communities. He stated the developer should have to respond to the City Standards in
regards to the fencing. He indicated the designated access roads have been noted in the
Specific Plan and Dale Court will not be among them. Commissioner Sands requested a
response from Centex Homes in regards to the property owners incorrectly being told no
development would occur behind their properties. Mr. Aller responded by saying he was
obviously not in the sales office with them. He indicated all plans in the offices do show the
subject property as future residential and he further indicated the property owners signed a
disclosure stating they understood the proposed use of the property on all sides of their
homes. Commissioner Sands noted he was confident the concerns addressed in the letters
from`both agencies and private individuals will be addressed in future steps and would
recommend approval of the project.
Vice Chairman Schiffner referred to page 6 of the staff report and suggested the 2nd
paragraph under "Construction of Fencing" be changed to read "Fencing, bracketing, and
post construction shall comply with the City of Lake Elsinore standards in place at the time
of construction." Vice Chairman Schiffner also suggested the statement "or are not
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addressed in the Specific Plan." Be stricken from the fourth finding on page 7 and from the
resolution.
Commissioner Sands asked for resolution regarding the fencing. Vice Chairman Schiffner
stated the statements just needs to be amended in the Specific Plan. Senior Planner Morita
indicated it is mentioned on page 73 section 5.2.6 (c) and page 88 section 5.3.7.3 of the
Specific Plan. Community Development Director Brady suggested just eliminating Section
C so the requirement would revert back to the City Code. He said this issue then could be
addressed during the Tentative Tract Map process.
Vice Chairman Schiffner indicated he does not object to a gated community as long as the
public does not maintain the private streets, etc..
MOVED BY MATTHIES, SECONDED BY SANDS AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO APPROVE LA LAGUNA ESTATES
SPECIFIC PLAN N0.92-4 AND ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT N0.92-2
WITH THE DELETION OF CONDITION OF APPROVAL #17 AND THE
ADDITION OF CONDITION OF APPROVAL #30 AND THE REMOVAL OF ALL
REFERENCES TO FENCING STANDARDS.
3. General Plan Amendment No. (GPAI 98-5 and Zone Chan ee No. (ZCl 98-4 -Assessor's
Parcel Numbers 363-010-0016 and 636-010-022
Community Development Director Brady indicated this is a General Plan Amendment to
change a parcel of land from residential to commercial. He asked Senior Planner Villa to
present the proposal.
Senior Planner Villa stated the application is for a land use designation change from Medium
Density and Low Medium Density residential to General Commercial. He noted the
applicant intends to follow the unofficial plan to establish a commercial corridor along
Casino Drive where they would support auto dealer and other related uses. Senior Planner
Villa also indicated the proposal is for a Zone Change from the existing R-1 designation to
a C-2 designation. He stated staff has reviewed the proposal and has no major concerns.
Commissioner Barnes indicated he had no comments.
Commissioner Sands stated this project will complete the other side of Casino Drive and
completes the picture.
Commissioner Barnes asked if there are any future plans for Franklin Street to have
interchange access. Community Development Director Brady indicated it is his
understanding there will be no access as it is too close to the Main Street access according
to Calttans standards.
Commissioner Matthies stated she has no comments.
Vice Chairman Schiffner noted the environmental checklist uses the term "future
development" when speaking of mitigated measures. He commented this wording makes
it sound like the plan is not talking about this project. Senior Planner Villa stated since this
is only a General Plan level document, no plans have been submitted and no one knows what
the impact will be. Vice Chairman Schiffner stated he understands this may be common
language but he would like to go on record that this does not exclude the existing project.
Community Development Director Brady indicated that CEQA requires that any action to
change the General Plan look at the cumulative effects.
Vice Chairman Schiffner opened the public hearing at 8:43 pm. There being no public
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comments, Vice Chairman Schiffner closed the public hearing 8:44 pm.
MOVED BY SANDS, SECONDED BY BARNES AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS
VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO RECOMMEND THAT THE CITY COUNCIL
AND REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY ADOPT MITIGATED NEGATIVE
DECLARATION N0.98-6, AND APPROVE GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT NO.
98-5, ZONE CHANGE N0.98-4 AND ADOPT RESOLUTION N0.98-3 BASED ON
THE PROPOSED CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL, EXHIBIT "A", AND THE
FINDINGS.
BUSINESS ITEMS
None.
ADJOURNED TO DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE
The Planning Commission adjourned to the Design Review Committee at 8:45 p.m.
The Planning Commission reconvened at 8:51 p.m.
PLANNING COMMENTS
Community Development Director Brady introduced Monika Hennings as department
secretary.
PLANNING COMMISSIONER'S COMMENTS
Commissioner Sands -Commented on the Followine:
No comments.
Commissioner Barnes -Commented on the Followine:
Commissioner Barnes inquired if there is anything that can be done about the Alamo Market
sign. Community Development Director Brady said they will look into the abatement
process. Commissioner Barnes also mentioned that it looked like a traffic study was being
conducted at Railroad Canyon / Summerhill intersection. City Engineer O'Donnell indicated
the timing of the intersection is being changed and the crosswalk removed so there is less
back up of traffic. Commissioner Barnes also stated he has used the new driving range and
thinks it is a nice asset to the community.
Commissioner Matthies -Commented on the Followine:
No comments.
Vice Chairman Schiffner -Commented on the Followine:
Vice Chairman Schiffner stated he noticed some curb had been torn out and replaced at
Mission Trail.
ADJOURNMENT
MOVED BY SANDS, SECONDED BY MATTHIES AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS
VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO ADJOURN THE REGULAR PLANNING COMMISSION
MEETING AT 8:55 P.M.
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Respectfully Submitted
onika Hennings Community`
Development Secretary
A
Hobert A. Brady, Secreta to the
Planning Commission
MINUTES
PLANNING
October 7,1998
MEETING
The Planning Commission was called to order at 7:00 p.m. by Chairman Wilsey.
The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Commissioner Sands.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: COMMISSIONERS: WILSEY, SCHIFFNER, SANDS, AND MATTHIES
ABSENT: COMMISSIONER: BARNES
Also present were: Community Development Director Brady, Senior Planner Villa, City Engineer
O'Donnell, and Community Development Secretary Hennings.
PUBLIC COMMENTS
There being no request to speak, the Public Comments section was closed.
CONSENT CALENDAR
MOVED BY SCHIFFNER, SECONDED BY MATTHIES AND CARRIED BY A 3-0
VOTE, WITH WILSEY ABSTAINING AND BARNES ABSENT, TO APPROVE
THE CONSENT CALENDAR.
Minutes
a. Planning Commission Regular Meeting of September 16, 1998.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
2. Variance No. 98-1 for Fencine - 555 Lakeshore Drive - APN 373-175-004 - 373-175-015
Community Development Director Brady noted this is a request for a Variance to a
regulation of the City's fencing requirements based on height and materials. He requested
Senior Planner Villa to review the project with the Commission.
Senior Planner Villa stated the applicant /owner, Mamie Hunt, is requesting a Variance from
Section 17.14.080 of the LEMC which regulates the materials and height of fences and walls
within the front yard to 36" in height with the exception that wrought iron fencing maybe
allowed to be 5' in height. Senior Planner Villa noted the reason for this application is so
the applicant may be able to maintain a 6' high chain link fence that was constructed without
proper permits and clearances from the City. He indicated the applicant was issued a
violation for not obtaining proper permits and the notice went without response;
consequently, the Code Enforcement Division placed the matter to Nuisance Abatement.
Senior Planner Villa stated Nuisance Abatement continued the matter pending the outcome
of the Variance request.
Senior Planner Villa stated staff has evaluated the application and the request, as submitted,
is not permitted under the LEMC. He noted the application states the primary reason for the
fencing is for security; however, the majority of the lots are vacant. Senior Planner Villa
indicated if the fencing is requested for security purposes, then the request should be only
for the parcel of land where the house sits. Senior Planner Villa stated staff is recommending
that the Planning Commission consider the applicant's request for approval of Variance No.
98-1. He further stated if the Planning Commission is of the persuasion to make the findings
that this property suffers from physical hardship and approves the Variance request, staff
would suggest adopting the Findings and Conditions of Approval as stated in the staffreport.
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Chairman Wilsey opened the Public Hearing at 7:06 p.m.
Ms. Allison Hargrave, legal counsel for the owner, stated the owner wanted this fence for
security purposes as the owner was having problems with cars parking, sometimes overnight,
on the corner lot. She stated the owner has been admitted to the hospital for extended
periods of time and after these stays, her neighbors informed her that the houses had been
broken into and there were complaints of the cars being parked on her lot. Ms. Hargrave
indicated the neighbors had signed a petition requesting that Ms. Hunt be allowed to keep
the fence. Ms. Hargrave stated that although the City is in the process of being revitalized,
this is still one of the higher crime areas in the City and the residents are concerned for their
safety due to the recent robberies and the murder.
Ms. Hargrave admitted the fence was constructed without the proper permits, but stated Ms.
Hunt's nephew and ex-daughter-in-law were both told over the phone by counter personnel
that a permit would not be required for chain link fencing, however they were not aware that
they should have mentioned the house is located on Lakeshore Drive. Ms. Hargrave also
indicated that the contractor told Ms. Hunt that permits for fencing were not required in Lake
Elsinore. Ms. Hargrave concluded with the fact that Ms. Hunt is on fixed income and for her
to remove the fence and bring it in on the sides would place a huge economic burden on Ms.
Hunt, in fact this condition would actually cost more than if she were to just reduce the
height of the front fence and bring it into compliance with the code.
Ms. Mamie Hunt stated that when she purchased the property there was a six foot chicken
wire fence around the property. She indicated her dog used to dig under the fence and
vandals were tearing it down. Ms. Hunt stated she decided to install a chain link fence
because of the safety issues. She noted most of the surrounding properties have chain link
fences.
There being no fiirther comments from the public, Chairman Wilsey closed the hearing at
7:15 p.m.
Commissioner Schiffner requested clarification from staff on the allowance of chain link
fencing in the City. Senior Planner Villa said chain link is not allowed. Ms. Hargrave said
there is no prohibition against chain link. She indicated that the information that was given
out previously at the Counter is that the City does not regulate the use of chain link fences.
She further stated she believes it is only along major thoroughfares and front yards where
chain link is not allowed. Senior Planner Villa said the Zoning Code is permissive in nature
- if it states you can do it than it is allowed, if it does not state you can do it than it is not
allowed. He indicated this is how the Code has been interpreted since 1986.
Ms. Hargrave read an except from page 10 of 18 of the staff report:
"Senior Planner Villa stated that when he spoke to Attorney Hargrave it was
agreed to allow the chain link fence as it was and not require the owner to do
a block wall along Lakeshore Drive, however he did not say anything about
allowing the chain link fence to be 6' high in the front yard, where it needs
to be 36"
Ms. Hargrave said it was her understanding from that conversation that with exception of the
fence in the front yard, the rest of the fence could remain. Senior Planner Villa said he
believes this comment goes back to which street the house faced and would be considered
the front. Ms. Hargrave noted there is conflicting testimony about this matter.
Cornrnissioner Schiffner said regardless of what anyone has said prior to tonight; the fact is
that chain link fencing is not allowed anywhere in the City. Commissioner Schiffner asked
what position the City will put itself in if it allows something that is an absolute violation of
the code. Senior Planner Villa stated the City has spent much time on developing fencing
standards and it has been noted that chain link fencing is not considered aesthetically
pleasing and therefore not endorsed. Community Development Director Brady noted that
although it can be shown that historically chain link is not a fencing material that has been
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permitted, it could be argued that this property has special conditions that warrant this type
of Variance; but it would be setting a precedence. Commissioner Schiffner stated the only
finding he could make is his sympathy for Ms. Hunt. Ms. Hargrave stated Ms. Hunt is the
buffer between a Commercial and Residential zone with the majority of the businesses along
Lakeshore Drive having chain link fences. She stated that the law, and LEMC, gives you the
authority to make an exception and allow chain link fencing because this is a unique
situation. She firrther indicated this would not put the Commission under any obligation to
approve all future Variance applications.
Comrissioner Schiffner asked if the Commission could approve the fence under a temporary
hardship. Community Development Director Brady said the Commission may grant the
Variance. He also stated another option may be to record a document which states upon sale
of the property or prior to making any improvements to the property, the fence would have
to be brought up to code.
Commissioner Sands asked what date the permit was requested for the towing company in
relation to the time the fence was constructed. Commissioner Matthies noted the first page
of the staff report said the City noticed the fencing in July 1997 and the business license was
not requested until November 1997. Sands reiterated that the front of the residence is
Lakeshore Drive and the fence was never approved by the Community Development
Director Brady.
Commissioner Matthies stated unique situations create unique variances. She said she
understands the need for safety and would agree to approve this Variance if there was a
condition attached that stated the fencing would have to be brought up to code if the house
was sold or improved.
Chairman Wilsey asked Ms. Hunt how long she has lived in Lake Elsinore. Ms. Hunt said
she has been in the City for 45-50 years. Chairman Wilsey stated he could not visualize a
36" fence down Lakeshore Drive. He noted that Lakeshore Drive maybe the legal address
for the property but it is not the physical address in relation to the layout of the house and
property. Chairman Wilsey indicated he feels the Commission can find for a Variance
because of the very unusual circumstances.
The Commission agreed to the following conditions
1. Upon transfer of ownership, or substantial improvement of the property
(improvement meaning anything requiring a building permit except for routine
maintenance), Variance shall be void and null. Fence shall then be made to comply
with code requirements.
2. Storage of any illegal or inoperable vehicles shall immediately void the Variance
approval.
3. The extensions on the top of the fencing that support the barbed wire shall be
removed immediately, subject to the approval and clearance of the Community
Development Director.
Ms. Hargrave stated Ms. Hunt owns a travel trailer, which is licensed, that is kept on the
property. Chairman Wilsey stated the trailer could remain on the property as long as it is
licensed. Ms. Hargrave noted the roof is in need of repair. Chairman Wilsey stated this
would be considered routine maintenance of the property.
MOVED BY SCHIFFNER, SECONDED BY SANDS AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO APPROVE VARIANCE N0.98-1
SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL AS STATED ABOVE.
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BUSINESS ITEMS
3. Part `A' -Minor Design Review of Residential No. 93-2. Amendment 2 -Design Review
of "South Shore Reflections" Tract No. 26142. Phase One (Elsinore Homes. Inc. /West
Coast Homes. Inc.l
Part `B' -Minor Design Review of 324458 Cane Drive and 32455 Cape Drive within Tract
No. 19344 (Elsinore Homes. Inc. /West Coast Homes
Community Development Director Brady indicated this is a Design Review for a
development of 115 homes, which is located in the southwest portion of the City and will
be named South Shore Reflections. He indicated this is a review of three models that the
City has previously approved and had been constructed in adjacent tracts and one new model.
Community Development Director Brady noted the project will be completed in three
phases. Also as part of this application is an infill prof ect located on two vacant lots in the
Serenity Tract. Community Development Director Brady clarified that the Serenity Tract
is in the East Lake Specific Plan but this is not part of the Liberty Project.
He stated the model home complex shall consist of three homes with the smallest model
offered, plan one, to be included in the literature only. Community Development Director
Brady noted the models range from 1304 square feet to 2346 square feet. He stated model
one is the only single story, the rest are two story plans, and all will have three-car garages.
Community Development Director Brady noted all models will be comparable in
appearance to the homes already in that area.
Wes Keusder indicated that he and his partner originally developed the original 1201ots in
the adjacent tract. He noted that three of the models are similar to the original models and
the last is just a larger design.
Commissioner Sands asked if the two homes in the Serenity Tract will be model homes. Mr.
Keusder said he and his partner bought the two lots and will be selling the two houses.
Commissioner Schiffner stated he had no comments
Commissioner Matthies stated she had no comments.
Chairman Wilsey asked if the City has requested and received the navigation easements on
the original tract map. He stated he realizes this is just Design Review but he strongly
recommends it be included in the CC&R's. Mr. Keusder stated he was sure the conditions
were not included with the tract map because it was recorded in 1989, but the condition is
clearly noted in the EIR and everyone receives a copy of the EIR.
MOVED BY MATTHIES, SECONDED BY SANDS AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO APPROVE PART A.
MOVED BY MATTHIES, SECONDED BY SANDS AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO APPROVE PART B.
ADJOURNED TO DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE
The Planning Commission adjourned to the Design Review Committee at 7:58 p.m.
The Planning Commission reconvened at 7:59 p.m.
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PLANNING COMMENTS
Community Development Director Brady noted, in regards to the sign at the market, staff
is looking into the process for sign abatement and will report back to the Commission with
the information received.
PLANNING COMMISSIONER'S COMMENTS
Commissioner Sands -Commented on the Followin
Commissioner Sands asked staff about the process for revising the fencing standards.
Community Development Director Brady indicated that staff has noted some areas of the
code that need to be reviewed. He stated this issue will be brought back to the Commission
in the near future. The Commission will then send the approved amendments to the City
Council to be adopted.
Chairman Wilsey -Commented on the Following:
Chairman Wilsey said he finds is difficult to believe that staff gave out this kind of
misinformation over the counter. Community Development Director Brady said he is not
sure what actually happened but noted it may have been the way a question was worded. He
stated a fence may not require a building permit but it does require Planning Division
approval. He stated there maybe some confusion depending on who fielded the questions.
Commissioner Schiffner -Commented on the Following:
Commissioner Schiffner noted the billboard at Highway 74 and the Interstate is still
standing. Community Development Director Brady indicated he is aware of the sign and
staff will address this issue once the sign abatement process is clarified.
ADJOURNMENT
MOVED BY SCHIFFNER, SECONDED SANDS AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE
OF THOSE PRESENT TO ADJOURN THE REGULAR PLANNING COMMISSION
MEETING AT 8:05 P.M.
Respectfully Submitted
N~nika Hennings, ommunity
Development Secretary
ATT ST•
i
obert A. rady, Secr ary to the
Planning Commissio
MINUTES
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
October 21,1998
The Planning Commission was called to order at 7:00 p.m. by Chairman Wilsey.
The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Commissioner Schiffner.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: COMMISSIONERS: WILSEY, SCHIFFNER, SANDS, BARNES, AND
MATTHIES
ABSENT: COMMISSIONER:
Also present were: Community Development Director Brady, Senior Planner Villa, Assistant
Planner Miller, City Engineer O'Donnell, and Community Development Secretary Hennings.
PUBLIC COMMENTS
There being no request to speak, the Public Comments section was closed.
CONSENT CALENDAR
MOVED BY SCHIFFNER, SECONDED BY SANDS AND CARRIED BY A 4-0
VOTE, WITH BARNES ABSTAINING, TO APPROVE THE CONSENT
CALENDAR.
Minutes
a. Planning Commission Regular Meeting of October 7, 1998.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
None.
BUSINESS ITEMS
2. Residential Project No. 98-3, (Cornerstone Communities) Minor Design Review of Model
Homes and Production Infill. Proposed Development at Tract Map No. 20704 within the
Canvon Creek Specific Plan aka Summerhill.
Community Development Director Brady noted this is a request for a Minor Design Review
of a Model Home Complex and production infill. He requested Senior Planner Villa to
review the project with the Commission.
Senior Planner Villa stated there will be three models, ranging in size from 1,564 square feet
to 2,015 square feet. He indicated the applicant is requesting consideration of Option "A"
and "B" for the location of the Model Home Complex. Senior Planner Villa explained that
Option "A"proposes to build the Models and parking lot on lots 119 through 122 and Option
"B" proposes the Models and parking lot on lots 32 through 35. Senior Planner Villa noted
the applicant would prefer Option "A" but is still in negotiations with the U.S. Department
of Fish and Wildlife. He stated staff has reviewed both locations and has found both
acceptable. Senior Planner Villa highlighted the Special Project Concerns as stated in the
staff report. He indicated that staff recommends the Planning Commission approve Minor
Design Review of three models for Residential Project No. 98-3 for 89 lots within Tract
20704 subject to the findings of the report, exhibits "A" through "D" and subject to the
conditions of approval.
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Chairman Wilsey asked the representatives of Cornerstone Communities if there are any
conditions that need to be clarified. Jack Robson, Cornerstone Communities, said he has
previously talked to Senior Planner Villa regarding Condition #38, requiring all
improvement plans and tract maps be digitized. Mr. Robson stated this project already has
an approved Tentative and Final Map and it would be a huge financial burden to go back to
approved plans and have them digitized. He stated Cornerstone Communities would like to
have this condition waived. Mr. Robson indicated he also talked to Senior Planner Villa
about the previous conditions to the Tract Map. He stated he would like clarification on
which of these conditions have not yet been met and would be required of Cornerstone
Communities. Mr. Robson said Cornerstone Communities is in agreement with the
remaining Conditions.
Commissioner Barnes asked if the Commission is approving Option "A" or "B" or Option
"A" and "B". Senior Planner Villa stated staff is requesting approval on both options subject
to the response from the Department of Fish and Wildlife. Commissioner Bames asked what
the issues are with the Department of Fish and Wildlife and would a decision made by the
Commission obligate the City in any way. Community Development Director Brady stated
the Department of Fish and Wildlife has not put anything in writing to either the City or the
Applicant. He indicated the City Attorney has instructed him to move ahead with the
approval process. He reiterated that this is a fully approved Tract.
Commissioner Barnes asked if the improvements to Summerhill Drive will be required prior
to the completion of the first model of the Model Home Complex or the first home. Senior
Planner Villa stated the improvements will be required before the Certificate of Occupancy
will be issued for the first model home of the Model Home Complex. Commissioner Barnes
asked if there will be a Home Owners Association or any common areas. Mr. Robson
indicated there will be neither.
Commissioner Matthies stated she had no comments at this time.
Commissioner Sands indicated he has no concerns other than Condition #38. He asked staff
what problems the City would face if the maps were not digitized. City Engineer O'Donnell
stated the tract map is not digitized at this time as the City does not require the maps or plans
to be digitized until build out. City Engineer O'Donnell said it is the responsibility of the
developer. He indicated that the City usually allows the developer to sell a few homes before
he is required to have the maps digitized. Mr. Robson said the final map was approved in
1988. He said this would be comparable to the City digitizing everything in their archives.
Mr. Robson said the plans were hand drawn and it would cost $30,000 (30 sheets at $1000
per sheet) to have the maps digitized. He asked why a project that is already approved, and
the mylars filed, needs to be digitized. Senior Planner Villa asked if this is a condition of the
Tentative Tract Map. City Engineer O'Donnell said this is a condition of the building
permit. He indicated that it can occur for less than $1000 per sheet. Commissioner Schiffner
asked if this condition would have been required in 1988 when the maps were approved.
City Engineer O'Donnell said this requirement was not in place in 1988. Commissioner
Schiffner indicated if the original developer was aware of the condition in 1988 then the
plans would have been prepared in a format that would have made digitizing them easier.
City Engineer O'Donnell indicated this maybe correct.
Commissioner Schiffner asked Mr. Robson if he has received the original conditions. Mr.
Robson said he understands the current conditions but is not sure which conditions from the
Tract Map Cornerstone Communities will still need to meet. Senior Planner Villa said many
of the conditions have already been met, others are not triggered until a building permit is
issued. He suggested the City issue the applicant a letter stating which conditions in regards
to parks need to be met. The Planning Commission approved a parks plan for the
Summerhill Specific Plan but Proposition 218 has limited the funds that will be available for
park maintenance so many of these conditions will not need to be met. The Planning
Commission will need to approve an updated park plan. Chairman Wilsey suggested a new
condition #30a be included stating "The applicant shall meet with the Community
Development Director to review the previous conditions of approval to determine which
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would be appropriate to be brought forward to this project's approval." Community
Development Director suggested the Planning Commission approve the project tonight
subject to the previous conditions and with the above mentioned revisions. If staff and the
applicant can not come to an agreement then the project will be brought back to the Planning
Commission.
Commissioner Schiffner asked if there is any kind of a compromise the City and the
applicant can agree upon regarding the digitizing of the maps. City Engineer O'Donnell
suggested amending Condition #38 to read $100 per sheet. Mr. Robson was in agreement
with this amendment.
MOVED BY SCHIFFNER, SECONDED BY MATTHIES AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO APPROVE RESIDENTIAL
PROJECT NOR 98-3 WITH THE ADDITION OF CONDITION #30a AND THE
REVISION TO CONDITION #38.
3. Residential Project No. 98-4, (Granite Homesl Minor Design Review of Model Homes and
Production Infill. Proposed "Tuscana" Development at Tract Maro No. 20705 within the
Canyon Creek Sroecific Plan aka Summerhill.
Community Development Director Brady indicated this is a Minor Design Review for
approval of a model home complex and production infill. He requested Senior Planner Villa
review this project with the Commission.
Senior Planner Villa stated the applicant is requesting approval for three model homes and
approximately 1251ots within tract 20705. He indicated the models will range in size from
2,051 square feet to 2,644 square feet. Senior Planner Villa stated the Special Project
Concerns are similar to the previous application with the exception that Granite Homes is
proposing a Model Home Complex without a parking lot. Senior Planner Villa noted in the
past, the only time street parking has been approved is when the Model Home Complex is
on a short cul-de-sac. He indicated that although the applicant is proposing to gate the street,
staff feels there will be traffic problems once Phase 1 is released. Senior Planner noted staff
would like the Commission to condition Granite Homes to provide a fully landscaped and
improved parking lot. He indicated that staff recommends the Planning Commission
approve Minor Design Review for Residential Project No. 98-4 for 125 lots within Tract
20705 subject to the findings of the report, exhibits "A" through "C" and subject to the
conditions of approval.
Tom Thornton, Thornton Development, said he is the land development consultant for
Granite Homes. He indicated he would like to incorporate anything that was granted to the
previous applicant regarding digitizing the maps. Mr. Thornton said the only issue they are
in disagreement with is the parking lot. He stated he would be willing to construct a fence
that can not be opened to create a dead end street.
Commissioner Sand stated the applicant should comply with the parking lot requirement.
Commissioner Matthies said she feels the fence would be adequate. She also stated
Condition #37 should read $100 per sheet instead of $1000 per sheet.
Commissioner Schiffner asked if the fence would be up for the duration of the project. Mr.
Thornton said there would only be 7 vacant lots once the fence came down. The remaining
108 lots in the Tract would have a separate Model Home Complex. Senior Planner Villa
stated he is concerned about the parking on the street. Mr. Thornton said this situation has
worked in the past at other subdivisions. He stated the main reason Granite Homes does not
want to build a parking lot is the cost. Commissioner Schiffner said he would rather see a
parking lot with minimized standards than have no lot at all. Commissioner Schiffner said
he is concerned about the residents having to drive through a construction area because the
only other access street is blocked off. Chairman Wilsey asked what the timeframe is for
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buildout. Mr. Thornton said approximately 2 years. Chairman Wilsey said he feels the cost
of building a parking lot to be used for 2 years is not too much to ask. Chairman Wilsey
suggested the applicant provide a parking lotto the standards satisfactory to the Community
Development Director. Community Development Director stated he is not sure what the
City's policy has been in the past. He stated he was not sure the city would want to set a
precedence and lower the standards. Commissioner Barnes suggested the applicant provide
striping in the street and only allow two lots per model. The rest of the street can be marked
"no parking"
Commissioner Barnes asked if there will be a home owners association. Mr. Thornton
indicated there will be no Home Owners Association.
There was further discussion about the parking lot. The consensus was to include a
Condition #29b stating the applicant will provide a parking lot to the satisfaction of the
Community Development Director. Chairman Wilsey said he does not want to minimize the
standards already adopted by the City. Chairman Wilsey also stated there should be a
Condition #29a stating the applicant shall meet with the Community Development Director
to review the previous conditions of approval to determine which would be appropriate to
be brought forward to this project's approval."
MOVED BY MATTHIES, SECONDED BY SANDS AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO APPROVE RESIDENTIAL
PROJECT NOR 98-4 WITH THE ADDITION OF CONDITION #29a AND #29b
AND THE REVISION TO CONDITION #37.
ADJOURNED TO DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE
The Planning Commission adjourned to the Design Review Committee at 8:10 p.m.
The Planning Commission reconvened at 8:25 p.m.
PLANNING COMMENTS
None.
PLANNING COMMISSIONER'S COMMENTS
Commissioner Sands -Commented on the Followine:
Commissioner Sands stated the top of the fence at 555 Lakeshore Drive has not been
removed. He said the conditions of the Variance were that this be taken care of immediately.
He suggested that Ms. Hargrave be contacted.
Commissioner Barnes -Commented on the Followine
None.
Commissioner Schiffner -Commented on the Followine:
Commissioner Schiffner said he agrees the extensions on the fence need to be removed. He
said if these are not removed than the Variance will be voided. Commissioner Schiffner said
the new Albertson's at Four Corners will open on October 28, 1998. He also stated he
enjoyed the opening of the library.
Commissioner Matthies - Commented on the Followine:
Commissioner Matthies said there needs to be 2-hour parking on Main Street. She stated it
may also be a good idea to look into additional security in the area. Commissioner Schiffner
stated that the City Council asked the officers, at the Study Session, to go through the alley
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whenever in the area instead of just driving down Main Street.
Chairman Wilsey -Commented on the Following_
Chairman Wilsey reiterated he feels 2-hour parking is needed on Main Street.
ADJOURNMENT
MOVED BY SCHIFFNER, SECONDED MATTHIES AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS
VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO ADJOURN THE REGULAR PLANNING COMMISSION
MEETING AT 8:33 P.M.
Respectfully Submitted
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MINUTES
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
November 18,1998
The Planning Commission was called to order at 7:00 p.m. by Chairman Wilsey.
The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Commissioner Schiffner.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: COMMISSIONERS: WILSEY, SCHIFFNER, SANDS, BARNES, AND
MATTHIES
ABSENT: COMMISSIONER:
Also present were: Senior Planner Villa, City Engineer O'Donnell, and Community Development
Secretary Hennings.
PUBLIC COMMENTS
There being no request to speak, the Public Comments section was closed.
CONSENT CALENDAR
Commissioner Barnes stated the second to last sentence in the first paragraph on page 4 should read
"...only allow two spaces per model."
MOVED BY SANDS, SECONDED BY MATTHIES AND CARRIED BY A
UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO APPROVE THE CONSENT
CALENDAR.
1. Minutes
a. Planning Commission Regular Meeting of October 21, 1998.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
None.
BUSINESS ITEMS
2. Residential Project No. 98-5, (Granite Homes) Minor Desien Review of Model Homes and
Production Infill. Proposed "Castellina" Development at Tract Mao 20705 within the
Canyon Creek Specific Plan aka Summerhill.
Senior Planner Villa apologized that Community Development Director Brady was unable
to attend. Senior Planner Villa stated Residential Project No. 98-5 was for design review
approval for Granite Homes. The request is for a Model Home Complex and 1081ots within
the upper portion of Tract 20705.
Senior Planner Villa stated there will be three models, ranging in size from 2,362 square feet
to 3,576 square feet. He described the materials and colors to be used. Senior Planner Villa
stated Granite Homes came before the Planning Commission on October 21, 1998 with
Residential Project No. 98-4. At that time, staffpresented the project with four major issues.
The developer was instructed to meet with staff and the adjacent developer. Senior Planner
Villa indicated that meeting took place on October 29, 1998. At that time it was resolved
that the two builders would enter into a construction agreement, to be approved by the
Community Development Director, for the Summerhill Drive improvements and the
construction of the parks.
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Senior Planner Villa noted staff has reviewed the project and recommends the Planning
Commission approve the project based upon the findings, exhibits, and the attached
conditions of approval with the deletion of condition #40 and #31.
Tom Thornton, Thornton Development, indicated he would like clarification of Condition
#24a. Senior Planner Villa noted the Code requires the builder plant a street tree in the
public right-of--way every 30 feet. He stated this does not include the required tree per house.
Mr. Thornton stated this subdivision is unusual in that the sidewalk is adjacent to the curb
and there is no parkway on some of the lots. The Planning Commission discussed the issue.
The Planning Commission agreed to revise Condition #24a to read "Applicant shall plant
street trees, selected from the City's Street Tree List, with the approval of the Community
Development Director." The Planning Commission stated this would allow the Community
Development Director to require a 24 inch box tree as part of the house landscaping in some
cases but still require the street tree along the right of way when possible.
Mr. Thornton stated the staff report mentions that he is required to complete all
improvements on Summerhill Drive prior to the Certificate of Occupancy of the first model.
He stated that in the meeting with staff, it was agreed that landscaping requirements only
would be deferred to the Certificate of Occupancy of the first production unit. He mentioned
the reason for this request is so the landscaping for Summerhill Drive and the pazks can be
done all at once. Senior Planner Villa stated staff feels this is a reasonable request.
Commissioner Barnes disagreed and felt the landscaping requirements should be completed
with the rest of the improvements. Commissioner Schiffner and Matthies stated they have
no objections. Mr. Thornton stated this should be completed within 90 days after the first
Certificate of Occupancy. Further discussion followed regazding this issue. Some of the
concerns expressed were not stating a specific date and the accumulation of garbage in the
areas to be landscaped. The consensus was to have the landscaping on Summerhill Drive be
completed by June 1, 1998. Mr. Thornton also agreed, to the extent allowed by the U.S.
Department of Fish and Wildlife, to cleanup the garbage.
Mr. Thornton stated his other comments was just to concur with this recommendations of
staff to delete Condition #40 and the reference to Franklin Street be deleted in Condition #31.
City Engineer Ray O'Donnell indicated the letter from the City Manager states because of
the agreements between Cornerstone and Granite, the City is going to deal with the issue of
Franklin Street at a later date.
MOVED BY MATTHIES, SECONDED BY BARNES AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO APPROVE DESIGN REVIEW OF
THREE (3) MODELS, RESIDENTIAL PROJECT NO. 98-5, AND SUBSEQUENT
PLOTTINGS CONSISTENT WITH PHASE ONE BASED UPON THE FINDINGS
AND EXHIBITS AND SUBJECT TO THE ATTACHED CONDITIONS WITH THE
REVISION TO CONDITIONS 24A, 31, 38, AND THE DELETION OF CONDITION
#40.
ADJOURNED TO DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE
The Planning Commission adjourned to the Design Review Committee at 7:32 p.m.
The Planning Commission reconvened at 7:35 p.m.
PLANNING COMMENTS
None.
PLANNING COMMISSIONER'S COMMENTS
Commissioner Sands -Commented on the Followine:
Commissioner Sands stated he may have jury duty starting December 7, 1998.
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Commissioner Schiffner -Commented on the Followine:
Commissioner Schiffner stated the traffic conditions in Tuscany Hills is very bad, with blind
intersections, etc. He noted this will just get worse as more houses are built.
Commissioner Matthies -Commented on the Followine:
Commissioner Matthies indicated she was glad of the study session yesterday and thought
a lot was accomplished. She noted she would like to see more study sessions in the future.
Chairman Wilsey -Commented on the Following;
Chairman Wilsey also noted the study session went well. He stressed that more study
sessions will have to be planned with future projects so the Planning Commission is aware
of what is going on before it gets to the meeting stage. He indicated that yesterday there
were projects that the Planning Commission has never discussed and that is not right.
Chairman Wilsey stated that with a large project he would like to see a study session when
an application is received, then again later in the process, and the final documents received
several weeks prior to a meeting.
He also noted the Planning Commission has the right to continue any hearings if the
Planning Commission needs more time to study an issue.
Commissioner Barnes - Commented on the Followine
Commissioner Barnes agreed that documents must be received up front so the Planning
Commission can make informed decisions.
ADJOURNMENT
MOVED BY MATTHIES, SECONDED BY BARNES AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS
VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO ADJOURN THE REGULAR PLANNING COMMISSION
MEETING AT 7:50 P.M.
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Planning Commission
MINUTES
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
December 16,1998
The Planning Commission was called to order at 7:00 p.m. by Chairman Wilsey.
The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Commissioner Barnes.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: COMMISSIONERS: WILSEY, SCHIFFNER, SANDS, BARNES, AND
MATTHIES
ABSENT: COMMISSIONER:
Also present were: Community Development Director Brady, City Engineer O'Donnell, Senior
Planner Villa, Assistant Planner Miller, and Community Development Secretary Hennings.
PUBLIC COMMENTS
There being no request to speak, the Public Comments section was closed.
CONSENT CALENDAR
MOVED BY BARNES, SECONDED BY SCHIFFNER AND CARRIED BY A
UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO APPROVE THE CONSENT
CALENDAR.
1. Minutes
a. Planning Commission Regular Meeting of November 18, 1998.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
2. Industrial Project No. 98-3. Conditional Use Permit No. 98-6. and Ne¢ative Declaration 98-7
- Warehouse and Mini-Storage Facility at the northwest corner of Pasadena Street and
Central Avenue (APN 377-151-058. 9.47 acres]
Community Development Director Brady noted this project is for an industrial warehouse
building and a rnini-storage facility at the corner of Central and Pasadena Streets. He
requested Senior Planner Villa to review the project with the Commission.
Senior Planner Villa indicated this proposal is a request for approval for Design Review and
a Conditional Use Permit. He stated the Design Review approval is for the construction of
atilt-up industrial building totaling 19,750 square feet of which approximately 2,400 square
feet will be used for office space and a proposal for amini-storage facility which includes
approximately 60,860 square feet of storage space and 1,290 square feet for anoffice / care-
taker quarters. He further noted the Conditional Use Permit is for section 17.56.030.F and
17.56.040.A.7 of the LEMC. Senior Planner Villa noted the project is located on
approximately 9.47 gross acres with access for the industrial building off Central Avenue and
Pasadena Street and access for the mini-storage off Central Avenue and Crane Street.
Senior Planner Villa stated the proposal has met all development standards of the LEMC. He
indicated the proposed mini-storage facility and outdoor storage of RV's are uses which have
been determined to have visual impacts from the public right of way, therefore a Conditional
Use Permit was required. He stated that the applicant has volunteered to provide a 9 foot
high decorative block wall to conceal the mini-storage facility and maintain a 45 foot visual
setback for all RV storage that is being proposed.
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Senior Planner Villa mentioned that the project is located is the AE flood zone and that the
applicant is proposing to construct the development one-foot above the flood level. Senior
Planner Villa stated that staff recommends approval of this project.
Chairman Wilsey opened the Public Hearing at 7:05 pm
Mr. John Scofield indicated he is an active 1/3 partner of DGS Development Partners, LLC.
He stated the industrial project will be the new home of Banana Boat Suntan Products which
is re-locating to Lake Elsinore. He noted that along with the industrial project, they are
proposing amini-storage facility.
There being no further comments, Chairman Wilsey closed the Public Hearing at 7:07 pm.
Commissioner Schiffner asked if the developer is satisfied with the Conditions of Approval.
Mr. Vince Dominick, another partner of the project and the developer, indicated that he has
read and is comfortable with the 45 proposed conditions.
Commissioner Barnes indicated he had no comments at this time.
Commissioner Matthies asked if the signage will be brought before the Commission at a later
date. Mr. Scofield indicated that it will. Commissioner Matthies asked if this will be a
manufacturing plant. Mr. Scofield indicated this will be a distribution center only.
Commissioner Sands asked if there will be a dump site area for the RV's. Mr. Scofield
indicated they are proposing a dump site and a wash rack.
Chairman Wilsey clarified with the Commissioners that Condition #14 states the signage will
be approved by the Community Development Director. The Commissioners agreed this was
acceptable.
MOVED BY MATTHIES, SECONDED BY BARNES AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO APPROVE CONDITIONAL USE
PERMIT N0.98-6 AND RECOMMEND TO THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL OF
INDUSTRIAL PROJECT NO. 98-3 AND NEGATIVE DECLARATION NO. 98-7
SUBJECT TO THE ATTACHED CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL.
Chairman Wilsey questioned if a wash rack will need to be consistent with water
management and quality provisions. Community Development Director Brady indicated that
it would. Chairman Wilsey told the applicant to look into this because it would require a re-
circulating system.
Design Review of Commercial Project No. 98-3, Conditional Use Permit No. 98-4, Variance
No. 98-3, and Negative Declaration No. 98-10 for a Gasoline Service Station. Mini-Mart.
and Car Wash located at 200 West Graham Street.
Community Development Director Brady noted this project is for an upgrade to an existing
service station and car wash. He requested Assistant Planner Miller to review the project
with the Commission.
Assistant Planner Miller first indicated a few errors on the staff report which included the
omission of Negative Declazation No. 98-10 from the title of the staff report, the incorrect
heading on pages 8-1 Q, and the term "Engineering Department" should be replaced with the
term "Engineering Division".
Assistant Planner Miller stated this is a Design Review for a remodel of an existing gas
station. She indicated that the project required a Conditional Use Permit because the proposal
indicates there will be the sale of beer and wine at the mini-mart and there is a car wash on
site. She noted the car wash is acoin-operated caz wash which is not expected to raise the
noise levels in the area. Assistant Planner Miller stated the proposal also requests a Variance
PAGE 3 -PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES -DECEMBER 16, 1998
from the minimum requirement of four vehicles stacked at the entrance of the car wash
facility and the setback requirement of fifteen feet between a commercial and residential use.
Assistant Planner Miller noted that the service station has been in operation since 1972 and
has deteriorated in that time. She indicated that the three non-conforming residences that aze
sharing the site with the service station will be removed as part of the project. Assistant
Planner Miller indicated that staff feels the project will be a welcome improvement and
recommends approval.
Chairman Wilsey opened the Public Hearing at 7:15 pm.
Mr. Dave Beulan indicated he has resided in the community for 35 years and owns a
business located at 506 West Graham. He noted he supports this project as it will be a boost
to the community.
Mr. Ali Seyedgavadi indicated he has been the operator of the service station for the last five
years. He noted that the current volume per day is 6500 gallons and stated people come from
all over to purchase gas from him which generates more business for the downtown area.
Mr. Seyedgavadi indicated he is required by law to upgrade the underground tanks by
December 22, 1998. While he is upgrading the tanks, he would like to upgrade the station
and car wash and construct the mini-mart.
Mr. Asik Menachekanian indicated he is the designer for the project. He explained the site
plan to the Commission. He noted he agrees with the conditions of approval.
There being no further comments from the public, Chairman Wilsey closed the Public
Hearing at 7:21 pm.
Commissioner Sands asked if the residential units are vacant. Mr. Seyedgavadi indicated
two of the units are vacant and the other family will be moving. Commission Sands stated
he feels the two vehicle stacking is an improvement and he has no problem with the proposed
setbacks.
Commissioner Matthies stated her only concern was the condition of the tanks which the
applicant has already stated will be upgraded. Community Development Director Brady
indicated all underground tanks are required to be upgraded by December 22, 1998.
Commissioner Matthies asked if the water from the car wash will be recycled. Mr.
Seyedgavadi indicated the water will be recycled.
Comrissioner Schiffner indicated this will be a tremendous improvement. He asked about
the proposed timeline for the project. Mr. Seyedgavadi indicated he will be closing next
Tuesday and will hopefully be able to re-open in two months.
Commissioner Barnes asked if there is anything that can be done to enhance the architecture
to fit in better with the surrounding buildings. Mr. Seyedgavadi stated he has already
upgraded the azchitecture in comparison to other gas stations and his chosen style will match
the chamber and other buildings in the area. Assistant Planner Miller stated that the station
is located in Area 4 of the Downtown Historic District which allows four azchitectural styles
of which Eclectic Spanish is one of the options.
Commissioner Barnes stated he would like to see Condition #16 require an eight or nine foot
wall sepazating the conunercial use from the residential uses. He indicated that this is
required for other similar uses. Community Development Director Brady stated if the
Commission so desires an eight foot wall can be a condition. He indicated he would not
recommend going over eight feet. Mr. Menachekanian indicated there will be trees planted
in front of the wall. In time a wall, no matter the height, will not be seen. Commissioners
Wilsey, Matthies, and Schiffner all agreed a six foot wall would be adequate. Commissioner
Barnes suggested that the southerly property line be considered an area where screening is
necessary and requires 36 inch box size trees. Senior Planner Villa suggested adding the
PAGE 4 -PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES -DECEMBER 16, 1998
following phrase to Condition 24 (b) "...trees shall be at least thirty six-inch (36") box size,
more specifically along the southerly property line."
MOVED BY MATTHIES, SECONDED BY SANDS AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO APPROVE CONDITIONAL USE
PERMIT N0.98-4 AND VARIANCE N0.98-3 AND RECOMMEND TO THE CITY
COUNCIL APPROVAL OF COMMERCIAL PROJECT N0.98-3 AND NEGATIVE
DECLARATION NO. 98-10 SUBJECT TO THE ATTACHED CONDITIONS OF
APPROVAL.
Community Development Director Brady indicated this project is scheduled to be heard by
the City Council on January 12, 1998.
4. Conditional Use Permit No. 98-8 for Pressine On Faith Ministries located at 31733 Riverside
Drive. `B' (APN 379-171-0851.
Community Development Director Brady noted this proj ect is for a Conditional Use permit
for a church located in a commercial /retail shopping center. He requested Assistant Planner
Miller to review the project with the Commission.
Assistant Planner Miller indicated this is a Conditional Use Permit for Pressing On Faith
Ministries within a C-2 zone on Riverside Drive in the Brookstone Landing Shopping
Center. She stated this church has occupied this site since 1997 on a previously approved
Conditional Use Permit that expired on October 18, 1998. Assistant Planner Miller stated
that the two prevailing issues are allowing a church within a commercial zone and the
parking issue. Assistant Planner Miller indicated she found the vacancy rate within the
shopping center was still high at 19% and thus a church use would be acceptable. She then
indicated she recalculated the number of parking spaces required and found that the use
should not impact the existing parking. Assistant Planner Miller noted that the owner of the
shopping center also wrote a letter indicating that he did not have a problem with the church
being located in the center and that parking was not a problem. Assistant Planner Miller
indicated that staff recommends approval of a Conditional Use Permit for two years with a
possible one year extension. Assistant Planner Miller indicated the applicant is not here
tonight.
Chairman Wilsey opened the Public Hearing at 7:39 pm. There being no one present wishing
to speak, Chairman Wilsey closed the Public Hearing at 7:40 pm.
Commissioner Barnes questioned who would decide when and if a re-review of the parking
situation would be required as mentioned in Condition #3. Community Development
Director Brady stated a review would be determined to be necessary by code enforcement
staff, planning staff, or if complaints are received from the public. If after a review, it is
determined the parking situation has changed then it would be scheduled to be brought back
before the Commission.
Commissioner Sands inquired when the Conditional Use Permit expired. Assistant Planner
Miller indicated the Permit expired October 18, 1998 and the applicant did apply at that time.
Commissioner Matthies asked the status of their new building. Assistant Planner Miller
indicated the applicant indicated they will be in the new Church within one year.
Commissioner Schiffner stated he has no problem with a church located in the Center as long
as there are no effects on the surrounding businesses. He suggested that the applicant make
sure the church patrons do not park in the parking lot for the adjacent shopping center and
restaurant.
MOVED BY SCHIFFNER, SECONDED BY SANDS AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO APPROVE CONDITIONAL USE
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PERMIT NO. 98-8 FOR TWO YEARS WITH A POSSIBLE ONE YEAR
EXTENSION SUBJECT TO THE ATTACHED CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL.
BUSINESS ITEMS
None.
ADJOURNED TO DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE
The Planning Commission adjourned to the Design Review Committee at 7:45 p.m.
The Planning Commission reconvened at 7:55 p.m.
PLANNING COMMENTS
Community Development Director Brady reminded the Commissioner's that they have been
invited to the ground breaking for the new industrial buildings on Friday. He also indicated
that the City Council has extended a three year contract to City Manager Watenpaugh and
allowed him to fill the Assistant City Manager position. Community Development Director
indicated the City Manager has placed Marlene Best in this position and Community
Development Director Brady indicated staff is very pleased with these decisions.
PLANNING COMMISSIONER'S COMMENTS
Chairman Wilsey -Commented on the Following:
Chairman Wilsey indicated the community is fortunate to be able to keep Marlene Best. She
was offered a position with another City but choose to remain with the City of Lake Elsinore.
Chairman Wilsey noted he has a note of contention with the water districts. He stated that
it seems after they do repair on any city streets, the streets fall apart. He noted one particular
area of concern is on the corner of Walnut and Frazier. He did commend EVMWD on the
good j ob they did on repairing Lincoln after the line broke. He said he would like to seethe
City get on the water districts and require them to repair the streets back to the high standards
that they were originally built to.
Commissioner Barnes -Commented on the Followine:
Commissioner Barnes noted other cities require curb to curb repaving after repairs are
completed.
Commissioner Matthies -Commented on the Followine:
Commissioner Matthies commended staff on the job they did with the Arco station.
Commissioner Schiffner -Commented on the Followine:
Commissioner Schiffner indicated he was upset with the paving on Riverside Drive. He
noted he is aware this is the responsibility of the state but he wanted it noted he is
disappointed with the repair job that was done.
Commissioner Schiffner also noted he is upset with the curbing at the new Arco station. He
said he realizes this is also a state problem but thought the City maybe able to get something
done about this. He said the curb sticks way out in the street.
Commissioner Sands -Commented on the Following
None.
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The Commissioners' wished everyone a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.
ADJOURNMENT
MOVED BY SCHIFFNER, SECONDED BY BARNES AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS
VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO ADJOURN THE REGULAR PLANNING COMMISSION
MEETING AT 8:00 P.M. /// j''
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ATTEST:
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