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HomeMy WebLinkAbout01-06-1999 NAHMINUTES PLANNING January 6,1999 MEETING The Planning Commission was called to order at 7:00 p.m. by Chairman Wilsey. The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Commissioner Matthies. ROLL CALL PRESENT: COMMISSIONERS: WILSEY, SCHIFFNER, SANDS, BARNES, AND MATTHIES ABSENT: COMMISSIONER: Also present were: Community Development Director Brady, City Engineer O'Donnell, Senior Planner Villa, and Community Development Secretary Hennings. PUBLIC COMMENTS There being no request to speak, the Public Comments section was closed. CONSENT CALENDAR MOVED BY MATTHIES, SECONDED BY SCHIFFNER AND CARRIED BY A UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR. Minutes a. Planning Commission Regular Meeting of December 16, 1998. PUBLIC HEARINGS None. BUSINESS ITEMS 2. Consideration of proposed chances to section 14.04 (Surface Minin¢ and Reclamation Cha tamer) of the Lake Elsinore Municipal Code for compliance with the State's Surface Minine and Reclamation (SMARM Act of 1976 Community Development Director Brady indicated this is an update to the Surface Mining and Reclamation Chapter of the Lake Elsinore Municipal Code. He requested Senior Planner Villa to review the proposed changes with the Commission. Senior Planner Villa noted the changes aze required to remain in compliance with SMARA. The changes incorporate guidelines for financial assurances, interim management plans, inspection procedures, and section covering penalties for violations. He stated that staff recommends the Planning Commission review and recommend adoption of the proposed changes to the City Council. Commissioner Matthies indicated on page 6 of 23, in Section 14.04.060 -Vested Rights the second sentence reads "... January 1, 1976, he shall obtain City ...." Commissioner Matthies stated she would like this to be changed to "she/he". Commissioner Barnes noted he believes these mandates should be totally controlled by the State and not put on the cities to manage. He asked how many permits are currently in force. City Engineer O'Donnell indicated there are 4 permits. Commissioner Barnes asked if any of these permits will be expiring soon. City Engineer O'Donnell stated there is no life on PAGE 2 -PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES -JANUARY 6, 1999 a permit, they continue as long as the annual fee is paid. Commissioner Barnes asked if the 10% fee is sufficient to cover City expenses. City Engineer O'Donnell indicated the City bills separately for all actual expense to the City. Commissioner Bames asked if the City has any personnel on staff who has the expertise to manage these permits. City Engineer O'Donnell stated the City contracts with an individual to inspect the sites. Chairman Wilsey asked if these changes with effect any outstanding Reclamation Plans. City Engineer O'Donnell noted most of the changes are administrative. He indicated that staff feels the revisions are good changes. Commissioner Schiffner noted a considerable amount is mentioned about restoring the land after mining is completed. He asked if this will require the Alberhill area to be restored. City Engineer O'Donnell indicated that is an idle mine. He stated the permit was obtained prior to 1976 when the requirements were much more lenient. City Engineer O'Donnell noted there have not been problems with this site with silt runoff so he does not believe the City has the authorization to go in and require any changes. MOVED BY MATTHIES, SECONDED BY SCHIFFNER AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO RECOMMEND THE CITY COUNCIL ADOPT THE PROPOSED CHANGES TO THE SURFACE MINING AND RECLAMATION CHAPTER OF THE LAKE ELSINORE MUNICIPAL CODE WITH THE ONE CHANGE TO SECTION 14.04.060 -VESTED RIGHTS. ADJOURNED TO DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE The Planning Commission adjourned to the Design Review Committee at 7:09 p.m. The Planning Commission reconvened at 7:10 p.m. STAFF COMMENTS Community Development Director Brady indicated that staff has been working with the staff at TMC. He stated there will be a study session scheduled, possibly the week of January 20. PLANNING COMMISSIONER'S COMMENTS Commissioner Matthies -Commented on the Followine: None. Commissioner Schiffner -Commented on the Followine: Commissioner Schiffiner requested that in the future when a documents is being revised that in additional to the revised document that the original is included with the changes shown in italics or bold. Community Development Director indicated that staff will do this when possible. He indicated it was not possible in this instance because there were substantial formatting changes. Commissioner Sands -Commented on the Followine: None. Commissioner Barnes -Commented on the Followine: None. PAGE 3 -PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES -JANUARY 6, 1999 Chairman Wilsey -Commented on the Following Chairman Wilsey indicated there is a Planning Commissioners Orientation Workshop being held on January 22, 1999 in Escondido. He stated he has the information if anyone is interested. ADJOURNMENT MOVED BY SCHIFFNER, SECONDED BY BARNES AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO ADJOURN THE REGULAR PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING AT 7:15 P.M. Respectfully Submitted ~a~ ~~~ mka Hennings, Community Development Secretary ATTEST• ,~ obert A. Brady, S retary to the Planning Commi ion MINUTES PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING January 20,1999 The Planning Commission was called to order at 7:00 p.m. by Chairman Wilsey. The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Commissioner Barnes. ROLL CALL PRESENT: COMMISSIONERS: WILSEY, SCHIFFNER, SANDS, BARNES, AND MATTHIES ABSENT: COMMISSIONER: Also present were: Community Development Director Brady, City Engineer O'Donnell, Senior Planner Villa; Senior Planner Morita, Assistant Planner Miller, and Community Development Secretary Hennings. PUBLIC COMMENTS There being no request to speak, the Public Comments section was closed. CONSENT CALENDAR MOVED BY SCHIFFNER, SECONDED BY BARNES AND CARRIED BY A UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR. Minutes a. Planning Commission Regular Meeting of January 6, 1999. PUBLIC HEARINGS 2. Commercial Project No. 98-6 and Conditional Use Permit No. 98-9 "Lake Elsinore Ford at 31450 Casino Drive" Community Development Director Brady noted this is a request for approval of a Conditional Use Permit and Design Review for a Ford dealership. He indicated this will be directly adjacent to the only other automobile dealership in the City, Lake Chevrolet. He requested Senior Planner Villa to review the project with the Commission. Senior Planner Villa noted this is a Design Review approval and a Conditional Use Permit to allow an auto dealership is a C-2 zone. He stated the project site is approximately six acres and access is provided to the site from two driveways off Casino Drive. He noted the project includes 175 parking spaces which includes customer parking. Senior Planner indicated the building will be approximately 35,680 s.f. with approximately 20 service bays. He stated the project also includes approximately 31,000 s.f. of display area and 29,475 s.f. of landscaping. Senior Planner Villa noted that automobile dealerships haue operational characteristics that may negatively impact surrounding properties and that these potential issues have been mitigated by incorporating Conditions of Approval 6-10. He stated the applicant has requested to use a portion of the front buffer landscaping area for automobile display and has incorporated landscaping with this display to mitigate the visual impact. Senior Planner Villa indicated that staff recommends approval of the Conditional Use Permit and recommend approval of the Commercial Project to the City Council. Chairman Wilsey opened the Public Hearing at 7:08 p.m. PAGE 2 -PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES -JANUARY 20, 1999 Dennis Flynn indicated he is the architect for this project and thanked staff for the tremendous help throughout the process. He indicated that staff has done a good job of delineating the project and would like to make himself available for questions. There being no further comments, Chairman Wilsey closed the Public Hearing at 7:11 p.m. Commissioner Sands noted this project is very well put together. He stated that as long as the lighting is not any brighter than at Lake Chevrolet than he does not see that there will be a problem. He indicated that the applicant must still bring the signage, especially the freeway sign, back to the Commission. Commissioner Barnes congratulated the planning deparhnent on a job well done and indicated that he is excited about this project. Commissioner Schiffner thanked the applicant for the comments about the staff. He questioned what impact the Ford Dealership may have on Lake Chevrolet as far as the elevations and visibility. Mr. Flynn stated the Ford dealership building is taller than the 10- 15 feet difference in elevation between the two sites so the Chevrolet dealership may be partially screened. He indicated that Ford has tried to bring the building as close to the slope as possible to minimize the screening. Mr. Flynn stated they are excited about the Chevrolet dealership being next door as this offers more inventory to attract the potential customer. He indicated that the applicant concurs with the conditions as presented. Commissioner Matthies noted that much of the view is blocked coming southbound on the freeway. Mr. Flynn indicated this is being mitigated by having the service parking against the slope and having the display vehicles further south on the property. Chairman Wilsey indicated he would like to see the Ford Dealership continue the same type of white lighting that is being used at Chevrolet dealership. Mr. Flynn indicated this will happen. The consensus of the Commissioners was that the display of the vehicles along the front landscaping buffer would be acceptable. MOVED BY MATTHIES, SECONDED BY SCHIFFNER AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO APPROVE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 98-9 AND RECOMMEND THAT THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVE COMMERCIAL PROJECT NO.98-6. 3. Residential Project No. 99-1, (Cornerstone Communities) Minor Design Review of Model Homes and Production Infill. Proposed Development at Tract Map No. 20704 within the Canyon Creek Specific Plan aka Summerhill. Community Development Director Brady indicated this is a request for approval of Cornerstone Communities' second Model Home Complex. He requested Senior Planner Villa review the proposed project with the Commission. Senior Planner Villa indicated this is Minor Design Review of Residential Project No. 99-1. He noted the applicant is requesting approval of a three model Model Home Complex with a parking lot. Senior Planner Villa indicated the size of the models range from 2,234 to 3,290 square feet. He stated that since the applicant is still in negotiations with Fish and Wildlife the phasing plan only became available today. Chairman Wilsey noted the entire Tract Map has been approved in the past. How is it that there are still negotiations with Fish and Wildlife? Community Development Director Brady indicated the applicant is still trying to work through this issue. He stated that although it is not clear at this time whether Fish & Wildlife has jurisdiction over this issue, the applicant is still trying to be cooperative. PAGE 3 -PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES -JANUARY 20, 1999 Michael Sabourin, COO of Cornerstone Communities, thanked staff for their assistance with this project. He indicated he has one concern with regards to Condition of Approva123d. He indicated no other municipality requires a bond for landscaping and as a private builder it is both expensive and cumbersome. He indicated he has a great incentive to keep the landscaping at a higher standard than the City requires as this is a major sales tool He suggested that instead proper installation of the landscaping be a condition of receiving a Certificate of Occupancy of the models. Chairman Wilsey indicated this has been a standard of the City for years. He asked why this was not mentioned on the first project. Mr. Sabourin said that was an oversight on his part. Chairman Wilsey said he understood that a bond maybe obtained for $200. Community Development Director Brady stated if the Commission was so inclined they may waive the requirement of the 120% bond for the installation. He indicated the City would not allow the applicant to obtain a Certificate of Occupancy for the models if the landscaping is not installed correctly. Chairman Wilsey stated he would agree to remove this condition for this project as long as the Certificate of Occupancy is not issued until the landscaping is installed. He does not want to see this removed from Commercial or Industrial projects. The Commissioners concurred. Commissioner Barnes asked if the first sentence in the paragraph relating to Summerhill Drive Improvements on page three should be revised to indicate the repairs are required by June 1, 1999, not prior to the Certificate of Occupancy for the first model. Senior Planner Villa indicated the wording should be changed to the same working as used for Granite Homes. MOVED BY SCHIFFNER, SECONDED BY SANDS AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO APPROVE THE DESIGN REVIEW OF RESIDENTIAL PROJECT N0.99-I WITH THE DELETION OF CONDITION #23D AND THE REVISION TO PAGE 3 OF THE STAFF REPORT. Chairman Wilsey called for a recess at 7:53 p.m. Chairman Wilsey reconvened the meeting at 8:00 p.m. ADJOURNED TO DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE The Planning Commission adjourned to the Design Review Committee at 8:00 p.m. The Planning Commission reconvened at 8:12 p.m. INFORMATIONAL 4. Liberty Overview -Rick Coacher. TMC Community Development Director Brady stated this informational item came about from the study session that was held back in November. He indicated the applicant and staff thought it might be helpful to the Commission to give an update as to where the Liberty Project is at at this time and to give a little information about the concept behind the Liberty project. He further noted that this issue will come back as a Joint City Council /Planning Commission Study Session in the future. Rick Goacher, TMC Communities, presented a slide show which addressed the following points: 1. To create a tangible understanding of TND (Traditional Neighborhood Design) 2. To provide comparative illustrations of conventional vs. TND planning principles PAGE 4 -PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES -JANUARY 20, 1999 3. To demonstrate how the TND planning components are joined to create Liberty. 4. To provide an understanding of the Liberty entitlement requirements & TMC's schedule for construction 5. To educate TMC of the Commission's and Council's goals, preferences, and ideas for the implementation of the Liberty Plan. Chairman Wilsey thanked Mr. Goacher for the presentation. He said it was very enlightening and exciting. STAFF COMMENTS Community Development Director Brady indicated the mid year budget review will be held on January 27, 1999 at 1:30 p.m. at City Hall. PLANNING COMMISSIONER'S COMMENTS Chairman Wilsey -Commented on the Following Chairman Wilsey reminded the Commission that there will be a Study Session on Friday, January 29, 1999 from 9:00 am to approximately noon at City Hall. He suggested that the Commission can discuss what was learned over lunch, following the study session. Chairman Wilsey stated there will be another RV sale in the Wal Mart parking lot. He asked if they have obtained a business license. Community Development Director Brady said he is working on making sure that sales tax is credited to the City. Senior Planner Villa indicated they have obtained a Temporary Use Permit and part of that requirement is that they have a business license. Chairman Wilsey indicated the traffic signal on Highway 74 and Dexter is now working. Commissioner Matthies -Commented on the Followine: Commissioner Matthies thanked TMC for the presentation. She also congratulated staff for the presentation of tonight's agendaized items. Commissioner Sands -Commented on the Followine: Commissioner Sands concurred with Commissioner Matthies' comments. Commissioner Barnes -Commented on the Followine Commissioner Barnes said the Liberty concept reminds him of years back. He said it is brings back many happy memories. He also mentioned that there will be a Planning Commissioner's forum on January 23, 1999 in Fontana. Commissioner Schiffner -Commented on the Followine: Commissioner Schiffner again requested that resubmittals be submitted in red lined format. ADJOURNMENT MOVED BY MATTHIES, SECONDED BY SCHIFFNER AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO ADJOURN THE REGULAR PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING AT 9:00 P.M. PAGE 5 -PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES -JANUARY 20, Respectfully Submitted v ~ {--.---^- ~ nika Hennings, ommunity evelopment Secretary ATTEST• obert A. Brady, Secret to the Planning Commission MINUTES PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING February 3,1999 The Planning Commission was called to order at 7:00 p.m. by Chairman Wilsey. The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Commissioner Matthies. ROLL CALL PRESENT: COMMISSIONERS: WILSEY, SCHIFFNER, SANDS, BARNES, AND MATTHIES ABSENT: COMMISSIONER: Also present were: Community Development Director Brady, City Engineer O'Donnell, Senior Planner Villa, and Community Development Secretary Hennings. PUBLIC COMMENTS There being no request to speak, the Public Comments section was closed. CONSENT CALENDAR MOVED BY MATTHIES, SECONDED BY SCHIFFNER AND CARRIED BY A UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR. 1. Minutes a. Planning Commission Regular Meeting of January 20, 1999 PUBLIC HEARINGS None. Discussion of Proposed Single-Family Residential Development Guidelines Community Development Director Brady indicated that in staff's continuing effort to try to improve the development standards and regulations, Senior Planner Villa has put together some design guidelines. Community Development Director Brady stated that staff is looking for Planning Commission input and direction tonight on the proposed guidelines. He explained that staff is looking for a written policy that can be put together into a handout that can be handed out to the public. Senior Planner Villa stated the proposed guidelines will be used in conjunction with the minimum standards contained within Title 16 (Subdivisions) and Title 17 (Zoning Code) of the Lake Elsinore Municipal Code. He stated the proposed guidelines are separated into seven sections: Site Planning, Subdivision Design, Single Family Dwelling Variety, Site Grading, Architectural Design, Landscaping, and Fencing. Senior Planner Villa indicated staff is hoping these guidelines will help design better developments in the City. Community Development Director Brady noted that this is an attempt to be more customer friendly while at the same time improving the aesthetic quality of the developments in the community. These will allow a builder or developer to know what staff is looking for before they submit an application. PAGE 2 -PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES -FEBRUARY 3, 1999 Chairman Wilsey indicated he is very happy to see this document. He indicated that he hoped this would go to single home builders also so that they know what to expect prior to starting the process. The consensus was to review the document by sections. SITE PLANNING: Comrissioner Schiffner indicated he had a comment about the second to last paragraph. He asked if "pair garages..." means that there would be shared driveways. Senior Planner Villa indicated this does not mean putting the driveways together. He noted the setbacks would still have to be maintained between the two houses but by placing the garages on the same sides, a larger front yard is maintained. Commissioner Schiffner stated that his concern about tapering the driveways down to a standazd two-car width (last paragraph) is that the other garages are not accessible. He noted this only works if there is plenty of front set back to still allow access. Community Development Director Brady indicated this encourages more landscaping and limits the amount of concrete in the front yards. Commissioner Sands stated every subdivision he looked at exceeded the recommended 10-12 foot side yard setback as stated in the first paragraph. Senior Planner Villa indicated that the LEMC requires a minimum side yard setback of 5 feet. He stated that by recommending setbacks of 10-12 feet, the residents will have vehicular access to the back yard. Commissioner Sands asked what are garage treatments (paragraph six). The consensus was to change the wording to garage openings or entries. Commissioner Sands asked if these guidelines will be added to the LEMC. Community Development Director Brady indicated that these guidelines would not be part of the LEMC but would be City policy. He explained the LEMC states only the minimum requirements. He indicated the guidelines would be adopted at a policy level and would provide a consistency from one project to the next. He stated that a packet will be put together providing information from all divisions including some sample fees so that all builders would know what to expect through the entire process. SUBDIVISION: Commissioner Barnes what it means to "relate lots and streets to one another to create neighborhoods" (paragraph seven). Senior Planner Villa said the goal is to have adjacent subdivisions be consistent with one another and create an overall feeling of one neighborhood. Commissioner Barnes suggested that more information is included to clarify this statement. Commissioner Barnes asked if the statement in paragraph ten is already code. Senior Planner Villa indicated that this is just a reminder to the builder. Commissioner Barnes asked for clarification of the third from last pazagraph. Senior Planner Villa indicated he is still working on this statement with City Engineer O'Donnell to determine how this should be implemented. Chairman Wilsey suggested that additional explanation can be added to this statement. SINGLE FAMILY: Commissioner Schiffner suggested that reverse footprints be allowed as an additional flooxplan only when five or more floorplans are required (50 or more lots). Commissioner Barnes indicated that the trend is to have the largest house possible on the smallest lot. He asked if the City will be flexible in tune to the changing trend. Commissioner Schiffner indicated that North Peak and Liberty is looking at these types of changes. He suggested that if the idea works in the specific plan areas then the City may look at changing the LEMC. GRADING: Commissioner Barnes stated he agrees wholeheartedly with the third paragraph. He inquired if the items in the fourth paragraph should be prioritized. Senior Planner Villa stated it would be hard to prioritize as each situation would be different. Chairman Wilsey stated this is also addressed in the last paragraph by requiring minimal disruption of existing natural features. PAGE 3 -PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES -FEBRUARY 3, 1999 ARCHITECTURE: Commissioner Bames asked if the City is going to encourage detached garages. He indicated that this would fall in line with the idea of garden alleys. Commissioner Schiffner stated larger side yards would also encourage detached garages. Commissioner Barnes asked if the Commission will have objections to this idea. Chairman Wilsey indicated it would depend on the project. Discussion followed regarding the storage of trash barrels. Senior Planner Villa indicated that staff is discouraging the use of the garage as storage and encouraging developers to provide space outside. The consensus of the Commission was to amend the last paragraph to state the trash barrels must be kept from public view. Commissioner Sands asked for an explanation of "gimmicks" as used in the fourth paragraph. Senior Planner Villa indicated that occasionally builders are going overboard. Community Development Director Brady suggested using "designs" instead. LANDSCAPING: Commissioner Matthies stated that the plans must show the actual size of the landscaping being planted. Senior Planner Villa indicated that the landscaping guidelines requires the plans to show 5-year growth. The consensus was to have this stated in the guidelines. Commissioner Barnes suggested that the phrase "and cold winters" needs to be added to the fourth paragraph. FENCING: Commissioner Barnes stated that if the perimeter (first paragraph) is adjacent to an open space then rod iron may be wanted. Senior Planner Villa suggested adding the phrase "wrought iron fences maybe allowed where adjacent to open space or view". Senior Planner Villa stated the phrase "where allowed" should be used in place of "exposed to public view" in the sixth paragraph. Commissioner Schiffner stated that he is concerned about the requirement that all fencing be treated as some fencing treatments will look worse after a year than if there were no treatments. Commissioner Matthies asked if the type of treatments can be specified. Commissioner Schiffner suggested that the type of treatment be authorized by the Community Development Director. Chairman Wilsey suggested that when the LEMC is amended it be changed to require a type of treatment with a 5 to 10 year life span. Commissioner Barnes suggested deleting the last sentence in the last paragraph as it does not add anything to the meaning. Commissioner Sands stated he has a comment to make on a different matter. He stated there is a small lot between Casino and Avenue 12 that is zoned C-2. He suggested that there needs to be a buffer between the C-2 zone and the residences. Community Development Director Brady stated that these guidelines will be brought back to the Commission for formal adoption. Senior Planner Villa stated that the goal is to keep adding as time goes on. Chairman Wilsey indicated this is a document which will be constantly evolving as situations arise. 3. Goals and Objectives for 1999 Community Development Director Brady indicated this was put together as a tool and to provide direction as to what we would like to accomplish during 1999. Community Development Director Brady summarized the Goals and Objectives for 1999 which included: Revised Zoning Map, Housing Element Update, Sign Regulations, Fencing Regulations, Downtown Business Regulations, Automall Specific Plan, Public Information Packets, Information Articles, and Project Permitting and Tracking. PAGE 4 -PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES -FEBRUARY 3, 1999 Comments were made regarding the Downtown Business Regulations. Community Development Brady indicated that the Historic Downtown area is the only area in the City that requires approval from the DRC Committee. He suggested that this may be handled administratively to streamline the process. Commissioner Schiffner suggested that these items only be brought before the DRC on appeal of the Community Development Director's decision. Chairman Wilsey stated that he can not think of a time that the DRC Committee turned down an application. Community Development Director Brady stated this change would require a code amendment. Commissioner Schiffner stated that two other items are needed: (1) and index map for annexations and (2) a map indicating who owns publicly owned property (i.e. city, county, etc.) with reference to the appropriate deeds. Chairman Wilsey thanked staff for the information provided tonight. ADJOURNED TO DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE The Planning Commission adjourned to the Design Review Committee at 8:20 p.m. The Planning Commission reconvened at 8:22 p.m. INFORMATIONAL STAFF COMMENTS Community Development Director Brady indicated that this will be the last meeting Community Development Secretary Hennings will be attending until the end of April as she will be going on maternity leave. PLANNING COMMISSIONER'S COMMENTS Commissioner Matthies -Commented on the Followine: Commissioner Matthies thanked staff for their hard work. Commissioner Sands -Commented on the Followine: Commissioner Sands inquired whether comments can be given at a later date. Community Development Director Brady indicated that the Commissioner's may call at any time. Chairman Wilsey -Commented on the Followine: Chairman Wilsey asked about sign abatement specifically in reference to the Alamo Market sign. Commissioner Barnes said Code Enforcement was to bring this back to the Nuisance Abatement Committee. Community Development Director Brady stated he will check on the status. Commissioner Barnes -Commented on the Followine None. Commissioner Schiffner -Commented on the Followine: None. PAGE 5 -PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES -FEBRUARY 3, 1999 ADJOURNMENT MOVED BY SANDS, SECONDED BY SCHIFFNER AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO ADJOURN THE REGULAR PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING AT 8:26 P.M. AL WILSEY, CHAIRMAN Respectfully Submitted M nika Hennings, ommunity Development Secretary R ert A. Brady, Secretar the Planning Commission MINUTES PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING February 17,1999 Chairman Wilsey called the. Planning Commission to order at 7:00 p.m. Commissioner Schiffner led the Pledge of Allegiance. ROLL CALL PRESENT: COMMISSIONERS: WILSEY, SCHIFFNER, SANDS, BARNES ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: MATTHIES Also present were: Community Development Director Brady, Senior Planner Villa, City Engineer O'Donnell, Assistant Planner Miller and Deputy City Clerk Bryning. PUBLIC COMMENTS There being no request to speak, the Public Comments section was closed. CONSENT CALENDAR MOVED BY SANDS, SECONDED BY SCHIFFNER AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR AS PRESENTED. Minutes a. Planning Commission Regular Meeting -February 3, 1999. PUBLIC HEARINGS None. BUSINESS ITEMS 2. Proposed Single Family Residential Design Guidelines -Resolution No. 99-1. Community Development Director Brady indicated that this item was presented to the Planning Commission on February 3, and noted the discussion and direction of Planning Commission. He further indicated that the documented presented tonight has been revised by PAGE TWO -PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES -FEBRUARY 17,1999 Senior Planner Villa and noted that the wording in Italics means added wording and the strike-through format means deleted text which reflect the suggested changes and modifications by Planning Commission. Senior Planner Villa gave an overview of the method of changes made to the Design Guidelines. He indicated that it is his hope that the revised Guidelines meet with the Planning Commission's approval. He stated that it is staff s recommendation to adopt Resolution No. 99-1 and adopt the proposed Single-Family Residential Design Guidelines. Chairman Wilsey suggested that each item be addressed and if there are any questions they can be asked as each item is announced. Commissioner Schiffner stated that it appears that all of the suggestions that Planning Commission made at the previous meeting have been addressed. Commissioner Sands questioned No. 7 of the Subdivision Section of the Residential Design Guidelines. Senior Planner Villa explained that the purpose of this condition is to provide consistency between developments to promote compatibility. Commissioner Sands stated that in the last meeting it was suggested that verbiage be added to create an overall feeling of one neighborhood. Senior Planner Villa stated that the suggestion is sound and the verbiage will be added. Chairman Wilsey stated that the verbiage in No. 6 was deleted and No. 7 was assigned to address this issue. Commissioner Sands noted No. 20 of the Subdivision Section and asked if based on street classifications, this is in reference to the design of the streets. Senior Planner Villa stated that this item was based on local and arterial streets as well as classification. Commissioner Schiffner stated that the changes that he had requested have been made in the text for Single Family. Commissioner Barnes noted that the word "gimmicks" as eliminated from the text as requested. Chairman Wilsey noted No. 1 in the Fencing Section reads "Wrought iron fencing may be used where adjacent to Open Space or where views are preserved." He stated that he does not understand "where views are preserved" and asked if we have to worry about open space where tracts or projects are going to be adjacent to Open Space that will be future development. The Commissioners concurred that it should read "dedicated Open Space". Senior Planner Villa stated that the intent was Open Space Zoned. PAGE THREE -PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES - FEBRUARY 17, 1999 Chairman Wilsey noted the amount of interference caused by Citizen Band Radio. Community Development Director Brady asked if "Open Space Zone" would address their concern. The Commission concurred. Commissioner Sands stated that he felt that both sides of the fencing should be oil stained, painted or water sealed. He stated that authority should be given to the Community Development Director or his designee to decide which treatment should be used. Commissioner Schiffner concurred. Commissioner Barnes stated that it should call out "color stained". Commissioner Schiffner stated that it is hard to determine what materials will be available in the future and noted that products do improve as time goes by, therefore it would be better to allow the decision as to what materials should be used with the Community Development Director. There was general discussion regarding the materials available today versus the materials available in the future. Chairman Wilsey called for verbiage to implement as a guideline. Commissioner Barnes stated that he would like to see "water seal" taken out and it to read only color painted or coated. Community Development Director Brady stated that it could be worded "wood fencing allowed to be treated with stain, paint or other appropriate material, subject to the approval of the Community Development Director". The Commissioners concurred. Commissioner Barnes clarified that it was for both sides of the fence and that should be noted in the Guidelines. Commissioner Sands noted that the Introduction portion of the Guidelines does not include the verbiage "minimum standards contained within Title 16" and this should be included in the introduction. Senior Planner Villa stated that this would be included in the final draft in the last paragraph of the Introduction. MOVED BY SCHIFFNER, SECONDED BY BARNES AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO APPROVE RESOLUTION N0.99-1 AND ADOPT THE SINGLE-FAMILY RESH)ENTIAL DESIGN GUIDELINES. RECESSED TO DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE AT 7:17 P.M. RECONVENED AT 7:24 P.M. INFORMATIONAL Community Development Director Brady indicated that each member of the Commission should have received a copy of the North Pealc Revisions to the Specific Plan. He noted that if any of the Commissioners would like to meet individually to review it with staff, staff would be happy to do that. He PAGE FOUR -PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES -FEBRUARY 17,1999 noted that this item will be before Planning Commission in March and the applicant would appreciate any comments that the Commission might have regarding the project. Chairman Wilsey asked if the Commission has had the opportunity to review the documents. It was the consensus of the Commission that they were in process. Chairman Wilsey stated that the document is a lot easier to go through with the new format. Commissioner Barnes stated that the one thing that he has been looking for in the document and has not found is if they are going to privatize the community. He indicated that this should be stated clearly in the document. Community Development Director Brady stated that staff would ask TMC to address this issue. He asked for comments from the Commission by Monday, February 22, so he could pass the comments along to TMC to address. Commissioner Schiffner stated that the document reads "may" in regard to a gated community and he is not sure if TMC has made up their mind how they are going to present this. He noted that he is not sure if the City Council or the developer has made up their mind as to how this will be handled. Chairman Wilsey stated that he agrees, however it was his impression that it will be gated with open hours to the pubic. Commissioner Barnes stated that he would like to see the developer state their intent up front. Commissioner Sands stated that if the project is gated it will place more responsibility upon the developer. Chairman Wilsey stated that because of the location, if it is gated it will take a burden off of the City. PLANNING COMMISSION COMMENTS Commissioner Barnes commented on the following: 1. Stated that the Planning Commission should petition Council through a resolution to get a sound system in the Cultural Center that works. He stated that it would cost a little money, however he feels that it should be spent. He stressed that it should be done this year. 2. Presented some exhibits of camouflage used on cellular antennas. He noted one picture of an antenna that was camouflaged as a palm tree. He noted that the cellular antennas in existence must be reviewed every five years and a form of camouflage can be addressed at that time. Commissioner Schiffner commented on the followin 1. Concurred with Commissioner Barnes and stated that it has gone on far too long. Commissioner Sands - no comments PAGE FIVE -PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES -FEBRUARY 17,1999 Chairman Wilsey - no comments STAFF COMMENTS Assistant Planner Miller announced that it is Community Development Director Brady's one-year anniversary. Community Development Director Brady thanked staff. Chairman Wilsey commended Community Development Director Brady for all of the different issues that have been addressed and the solutions to various problems that have needed attention. He made note of the Single- Family Residential Design Guidelines that were presented this evening as well as other major items and issues that have been addressed. Community Development Director Brady stated that this would not have been accomplished without the efforts and dedication of staff. ADJOURNMENT MOVED BY SANDS, SECONDED BY SCHIFFNER AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO ADJOURN THE REGULAR PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING AT 7:38 P.M. G%'%%~ AL WILSEY, CHAIRMAN Re ectfully subm/intt/ed, ~~ ~ r Adria L. Bryning, Deput ity Cler ATTEST: ~~'/L Robert A. Brady, Secr ary to the Planning Commissi MINUTES PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING March 3,1999 Chairman Wilsey called the Planning Commission to order at 7:02 p.m. Commissioner Schiffner led the Pledge of Allegiance. ROLL CALL PRESENT: COMMISSIONERS: BARNES, MATTHIES, SANDS SCHIFFNER, WILSEY ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE Also present were: Community Development Director Brady, Senior Planner Villa, Senior Planner Morita, City Engineer O'Donnell, Assistant Planner Miller and Deputy City Clerk Bryning. Chairman Wilsey stated that due to the possible length of the meeting Planning Commission should adjourn to the Design Review Committee Meeting to facilitate those applicants. THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING WAS ADJOURNED TO THE DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE MEETING AT 7:03 P.M. THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING RECONVENED AT 7:09 P.M. PUBLIC COMMENTS There being no request to speak, the Public Comments section was closed. CONSENT CALENDAR MOVED BY SCHIFFNER, SECONDED BY BARNES AND CARRIED BY A VOTE OF 4 TO 0 WITH MATTHIES ABSTAINING TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR AS PRESENTED. Minutes a. Planning Commission Regular Meeting -February 3, 1999. PUBLIC HEARINGS 2. Commercial Project No 98-5 Zone Change No 98 6 Conditional Use Permit No. 98-7 and Variance No. 99-2 for "Weinerschnitzel & Jiffv Lube" located on 301 & 311 Summerhill Drive - APN 363 100 081. PAGE TWO -PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES -MARCH 3, 1998 Community Development Director Brady introduced the item and called upon Assistant Planner Miller to give a report on the project. Assistant Planner Miller stated that this is a request for Design review for two separate businesses within the same parcel; a Zone Change from R-1 (Single Family Residential to C-2 (General Commercial District); Conditional Use Permit to operate adrive-thru; and Variance approval to deviate from Sections 17.66.030 of the Lake Elsinore Municipal Code to approve a ten percent (10%) reduction of the required number of parking spaces. She noted that a Variance maybe required for a Freeway Sign if approved by Planning Commission pursuant to Section 17.94.170.I.3.a ofthe Lake Elsinore Municipal Code. She gave an overview of the prof ect location and noted the position of the driveways. She further noted that the Weinerschnitzel Fast Food Restaurant is proposed fo be 3,087 square feet and the Jiffy Lube Automotive Service Facility is proposed to be 3,979 square feet. She noted that the circulation issues have been resolved and there will be a need for a joint reciprocal agreement between KFC, Jiffy Lube and Weinerschnitzel for the driveway. Assistant Planner Miller gave an overview of signage and noted that all of the proposed signs meet the requirements of the Lake Elsinore Municipal Code with the exception of the Freeway Sign. She noted that the proposed oversized Freeway Sign is of concern since there are two other oversized Freeway Signs in close proximity. She noted that the one hundred and fifty square feet (150) is a fifty-eight percent (57.8%) increase in area and is a substantial deviation from the Lake Elsinore Municipal Code. She noted that because there are two businesses sharing the Freeway Sign and feel that a larger Freeway Sign could be warranted, however staff feels that a 58% deviation is - excessive. She stated that staff recommends that Planning Commission considers a maximum increase of 15%. Assistant Planner Miller stated that staff recommends that Planning Commission recommend that City Council approve Commercial Project No. 98-5 and Zone Change No. 98-6; Planning Commission approve Conditional Use Permit No. 98-7; consider Variance No. 99- 2 for the Freeway Sign and approve the Variance for the parking reduction; and approve the Sign Program with findings and conditions. Chairman Wilsey opened the public hearing at 7:15 p.m. and asked for those in favor of the project to speak. Mr. Ernest Ramirez, 5265 State Street, Montclair, stated that they have addressed the concerns of staff and noted that they are asking for a larger Freeway Sign since there will be two businesses sharing the sign and they need the Freeway exposure for their. business. PAGE THREE -PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES -MARCH 3, 1999 Chairman Wilsey asked if the applicant had reviewed the findings and conditions. He asked if there were any concerns. Mr. Ramirez stated that they agree to the findings and conditions and have no further concerns. Wayne Dial, Owner/Applicant, noted the amount of time that has been spent on the project and the amount of work that has gone into the project to meet all the concerns of staff. He noted that they are offering a different variety of foods and that they are looking forward to doing business in the City of Lake Elsinore. Chairman Wilsey asked if Mr. Dial had reviewed the findings and conditions. Mr. Dial stated that he has and had no concerns. Chairman Wilsey asked for anyone else wishing to speak on the matter. Hearing none the public hearing was closed at 7:19 p.m. Commissioner Schiffner questioned the size of the Freeway Sign and agreed with the staff recommendation, however he would like to see a photograph of the site with the proposed sign imposed in the photo get a better idea of what the applicant is proposing. He stated that if the Planning Commission were to consider the larger sign they would have to have a better idea of what it would look like prior to a consideration of approval. He asked if the applicant would agree to a site distance and size analysis. Mr. Dial agreed. Community Development Director Brady stated that the project could go forward with the exception of the Freeway Sign and the Planning Commission could withhold approval on that item until a later date. Commissioner Matthies noted the sign constructed for Union 76 and requested a comparison to the proposed sign and its location. Assistant Planner Miller stated that the San Jacinto River is the natural boundary to that project and the sign would not be adjacent to other property. There was general discussion regarding the topography of the site in relationship to I-15 and the ability to see the sign from I-15. Commissioner Barnes stated that because there are two businesses they have the right to place two signs, therefore the increase of size would be acceptable. Commissioner Schiffner stated that he would have to look at the sign to determine if it would be acceptable. Commissioner Sands clarified the parking Variance. He stated that PAGE FOUR -PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES -MARCH 3, 1999 with KFC and In and Out Burger adjacent to the project there is good exposure and he felt that a 15% increase was acceptable. He questioned the number of restrooms. Mr. Dial stated that the plan calls for the required number of restrooms. He stated that the Freeway Sign alignment would follow the two businesses. Commissioner Matthies commended staff for doing such a good job on this project. Commissioner Wilsey asked staff to provide him with a square footage of "T~F'C" and "In and Out Burger" signs. He commented on the east elevation and stated that it was too plain. He asked if there were any plans for that area. The applicant stated that it would include some landscaping and signage. There was general discussion regarding signage and landscaping on the project. Chairman Wilsey questioned Condition No. 27 and asked the City Engineer to address this. City Engineer O'Donnell stated that Condition No. 27 is adequate. Chairman Wilsey questioned the signage and asked if the whole sign portion should be brought back, since it would holdup all of the signage waiting for the decision regarding the Freeway Sign. Community Development Director Brady stated that the Commission could take action on all items except the Freeway Sign and that can be brought back to Planning Commission for a ruling at a later time. _ Senior Planner Villa clarified the parking and noted the relationship of - the project to the Freeway. MOVED BY SCHIFFNER, SECONDED BY MATTHIES AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF COMMERCIAL PROJECT 98-5 AND ZONE CHANGE NO.98-6; APPROVE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO.98-7, VARIANCE FOR THE PARKING REDUCTION AND SIGN PROGRAM WITH VARIANCE N0.99-2 FOR THE FREEWAY SIGN TO BE BROUGHT BACK BEFORE THE BOARD FOR FUTbRE CONSIDERATION. THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECESSED AT 7:35 P.M. THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECONVENED AT 7:40 P.M. 3. Commercial Proiect No 98-7 Conditional Use Permit No 98 10 and Variance No. 99-3 for "McDonald's Restaurant" located at 18492 Dexter Avenue - APN 377-030-071. PAGE FIVE -PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES -MARCH 3, 1999 Community Development Director Brady introduced the item and called upon Assistant Planner Miller to give a report on the project. Assistant Planner Miller noted a typo on Page 5, under Conditional Use Permit, No. 4, which should read as follows: Conditions and safeguards pursuant to Chapter 17.82.070 of the Zoning Code, including guarantees and evidence of compliance with conditions, have been incorporated into the approval of the subject project to ensure development of the property in accordance with the Objectives of Chapter 17.82. Assistant Planner Miller noted the exhibits, which are examples of other drive-thru fast food restaurants in the City. She explained that these are displayed because there is a question of the architectural design features of the McDonald's restaurant. Assistant Planner Miller gave an overview of the project and explained that this is a design review for a fast food restaurant with an indoor play area located on Dexter Avenue. She noted that the building is 3,314 square feet. She noted that a Variance from the required 15' front set back to a 10' front set back is being requested until Dexter Avenue is realigned and then they will meet the setback. She stated that the sign project has been submitted, with the exception of the Freeway Sign. She further noted that the applicant has been negotiating with the neighbors to do a joint sign. She noted that the Conditional Use Permit for circulation has been met and staff feels that they have submitted a very good design. Assistant Planner Miller noted that the issue with the project is the architectural design of the building. She further noted that originally the applicant submitted plans that did not meet the design directives of the City. She stated that in addition, the elevation with the highest visibility to the freeway appears to receive less architectural treatments especially at the drive-thru window. She further stated that it was suggested to the applicant to incorporate a tower feature with a roof cover at the drive-up window as a means to enhance the design appearance of the elevation and break-up the long expanse of wall. She further stated that it was explained that the Planning Commission had deemed it favorable to incorporate this tower/roof feature, especially when this wall is highly visible. to the public. She explained that with the exception of the architectural design, the project as presented meets all the requirements of the City and staff asks consideration of the Planning Commission of the architectural design. Chairman Wilsey opened the public hearing at 7:45 p.m. and asked those in favor of the project to speak. PAGE SIX -PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES -MARCH 3, 1999 Deborah Kerr, 4655 Cass Street, STE 200, San Diego, a representative of McDonalds, gave an overview of the history of the project and the site plan challenges and noted the amount of footage of frontage that the applicant had to dedicate which will be approximately 6,000 square feet. Mr. Rob Lombardi 11682 El Camino Real, San Diego, a representative of McDonald, introduced Mr. Alex Mestes the operator of this McDonalds restaurant and noted that he operates the existing McDonalds in Lake Elsinore. Mr. Lombardi addressed the staff report and noted that he took issue with two of the conditions which were as follows: 45. Contribute $6,145 for the design and construction of one- half of araised landscaped median along the frontage of Dexter Avenue. Mr. Lombardi stated that this is a standard condition, however he would ask that the City consider left hand access turning in and out of McDonalds be allowed at the time of Median Construction. He noted that access is critical on this site since it is not. right at the intersection. 15. All roof mounted or ground support air conditioning units or other mechanical equipment incidental to development shall be architecturally screened so that they are not visible from neighboring property, public streets and Interstate 15. A screening plan, if determined necessary, shall be approved by the Community Development Director or designee prior to issuance of - building permit. Mr. Lombardi stated his concern is with the Interstate 15 comment. He noted that the way that the site is designed, it is below Interstate 15 by 20 feet or more and the trouble that they will experience would not be proper to the site. He noted that there are Eucalyptus trees next to the site that will provide screening from the Freeway. He asked that Planning Commission consider stating that they could build the restaurant and if the air-conditioning is offensive, subsequent to opening a decision would be reached to address the issue. Mr. Lombardi addressed the Architectural Design and stated that they are working with staff. He noted the challenge of coordinating the indoor play area with the actual building itself, which affects the architectural relief. He gave an overview of the original submittal to the City and stated that they have redone the plans to better address PAGE SEVEN -PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES -MARCH 3, 1999 staff's concerns. He gave an overview of the exhibits that address the architectural changes they have made. He noted the position of the drive through and the covering that is required. He noted that there are two windows and the amount of coverage necessary to address both windows would create a very dark area. He stated that they would be more than happy to do the awnings with the or open trellis. He stated that they feel that it would be more in taste and in style with the building. The new condition 27 requests the applicant to submit a revised plan showing design options for the drive-thru windows. Chairman Wilsey asked for anyone else wishing to speak on the matter. Hearing none the public hearing was closed at 8:00 p.m. Commissioner Sands stated that he had no problem with the -_ temporary Variance. He addressed the new renderings presented and stated that the total concept is very attractive, however he would like to see the on the awnings and that would satisfy his concerns. Commissioner Matthies stated that she saw no problem with the request for a left turn pocket in the median noted in Condition No. 45, as long as it meets safety standards. She addressed Condition No. 15 and asked that the location of the units be pointed out. Mr. Lombardi noted the position of the units. He explained that there is a 4 %z foot well behind the parapet and they conceal 3 units and fans. Commissioner Matthies questioned the facades on the drive-thru and asked if they could be done as two separate items. Mr. Lombardi explained the problem with the two-window shading and the look that they were trying to obtain. Commissioner Barnes clarified that the air-conditioning units would be screened from the street and other properties, just not from I-15. Mr. Lombardi concurred. He stated that he had no problem with a left turn pocket in the median if it is deemed safe to do so. He stated that the new plan is architecturally appealing and that he is glad to see the play area in the interior of the building. He stated that he has no problems with this project as long as the applicant realizes that the left turn pocket mentioned in Condition No. 45 may not work.. Mr. Lombardi stated that they understood and he would like the condition to read that the left turn pocket would apply as long as it does not constitute health or safety issue for the' general public. Community Development Director Brady asked if the City Engineer had any comments on this issue. City Engineer O'Donnell stated that he would not make a guarantee for a left turn pocket because of safety issues. He stressed that safety is above everything for the motoring public. He stated he could be conformable if the condition read "left turn access in and out of the site would be available, provided there are no safety issues for the motoring public". PAGE EIGHT -PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES -MARCH 3, 1999 Commissioner Schiffner asked what the possible time schedule is for construction of the median island. City Engineer O'Donnell stated that if there is more development in the area, it could be sooner than originally anticipated. Commissioner Schiffner asked if the air- conditioning units could be painted the same color as the roof to hide them from view on I-15. He noted other projects where this technique was used. Senior Planner Villa stated that it is staff's concern to avoid problems and painting is one solution, however staff has suggested other considerations and would choose to see those considered before painting is used. Staff requested that the applicant provide a screening plan to determine what impacts are involved and solutions are possible. Commissioner Schiffner stated that it is possible to have lattice over the drive-thru to meet the requirements. Community Development Director Brady stated that he would like to look at other alternatives. Commissioner Schiffner stated that he agreed with the applicant that the area was too big to cover and stated that the applicant should work it out with staff. Chairman Wilsey asked what material the awnings would be made from. Mr. Lombardi stated that they are Kevlar fabrics, which is a very heavy fabric and will provide protection from the weather. Chairman Wilsey stated that the Spanish the element should be added and stated that he felt that a full cover would be too much. Commissioner Barnes asked how large the awnings would be. Mr. Lombardi stated that they would be 4 feet each. Commissioner Schiffner stated that he felt that the final decisions on the awnings should be left to the discretion of staff and the applicant should provide a rendering of the awnings. Chairman Wilsey asked if they would provide a rendering for a lattice treatment. Community Development Director Brady stated that they would work with the applicant to develop solutions to the issues prior to taking this to City Council. MOVED BY SANDS, SECONDED BY BARNES AND CARRIED BY A UNANIMOUS VOTE TO RECOMMEND CITY COUNCIL CONSIDER COMMERCIAL PROJECT NO.98-7; APPROVE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 98-10; APPROVE VARIANCE NO.99-3 BASED ON THE FINDINGS AND CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL WITH CHANGES TO CONDITION NO'S. 15 AND 45 AS FOLLOWS: PAGE NINE -PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES -MARCH 3, 1999 15. All roof mounted or ground support air conditioning units or other mechanical equipment incidental to development shall be architecturally screened so they are not visible from neighboring property and public streets. A screening plan addressing screening from Interstate 15 shall be provided and approved by the Community Development Director or his designee prior to issuance of building permit. 27. The applicant shall submit revised plans showing design options for the drive thru windows. Options may include a trellis covering at these locations or the addition of the on the awnings currently shown on the plans. 45. Contribute $6,145 for the design and construction of one- half of a raised landscaped median along the frontage of Dexter Avenue. Left turn access,. in and out, would be available providing there are no safety issues for the motoring public. THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECESSED AT 8:19 P.M. THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECONVENED AT 8:30 P.M. 4. North Peak Specific Plan Amendment No 2 (SPA No 21 General TMC Communities. Community Development Director Brady gave an overview of the project and noted that the applicant has held two community meetings and has been the subject of three Joint Study Sessions with the Planning Commission and City Council.. He noted that this is the first of many public hearings that will be heard by the Planning Commission and then City Council. He introduced Senior Planner Morita. Senior Planner Morita noted that the item before Planning Commission is for consideration of four applications as follows: 1) Specific Plan Amendment No. 2; 2) General Plan Amendment No. 98- 2; 3) Tentative Tract Map No. 28888; and 4) Certification of Environmental Impact Report No. 98-2. He, explained that the City approved the original North Peak Specific Plan in 1991 and at that time the original North Peak Specific Plan comprised approximately 1,964 acres and included approximately 4,621 residential dwelling units, 300,000 square feet of commercial uses, three schools and 996 acres for parks, recreation and open space uses. He further explained that in 1993 North Peak Specific Plan Amendment No. 1 was PAGE TEN -PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES -MARCH 3, 1999 approved to bring the water and sewer Master Plan into compliance with the Elsinore Valley Municipal Water District Master Plan. Senior Planner Morita stated that the proposed Specific Plan Amendment No. 2 replaces and supersedes the original Specific Plan. He further stated that in general, staff considers the Specific Plan No. 2 a better project because of better response to the changing market demands and provides a development that better integrates with the sites hilly topography and is more environmentally sensitive to onsite biological resources. He noted a comparison chart that he has prepared which is found on page two of the Staff Report and gave an overview of the chart. Senior Planner Morita noted the General Plan Amendment No. 98-2 and drew attention to a Chart on page five of the Staff Report, which itemizes the Circulation Element Amendment. He stated that the City's Traffic Engineer and the project's EIR found the General Plan Amendment acceptable. He further noted that the General Plan Amendment would not resolve any kind of compromise of the regional circulation system for the City. He explained that this means that the City's Circulation Element will still accommodate future development in accordance with the General Plan. Senior Planner Morita noted that the purpose of the Tentative Tract Map is to subdivide the entire North Peak site into large lots for financial purposes. He noted that the "A" map is under consideration tonight, however the "B" map has been submitted and is under review. He explained that it would be brought before Planning Commission and City Council at a latter date. He addressed the Environmental Impact Report No. 98-2 and stated that the EIR has concluded that concerns and impacts have been resolved. Senior Planner Morita noted that some of the unresolved issues with this project are as follows: 1) Acquisition of additional right-of--way along Nichols Road and the maintenance of the roadway, which staff is trying to help work out with the County, possibly through a Joint Powers Agreement; 2) Regional Fire Mitigation which the City and the County are currently working on a Master Plan which will address future Fire Stations and facilities in the City. He stated that staff recommends Planning Commission recommend to City Council the following: Certification of Environmental Impact Report No. 98-2 by adoption of Resolution No. 99-2, based on the Findings and Conditions of Approval Approval of General Plan Amendment No. 98-2 by adoption of Resolution No. 99-2 based on the Findings and Conditions of Approval. Approval of North Peak Specific Plan Amendment No. 2 by adoption of Resolution No. 99-2 based on the Findings and Conditions of Approval. PAGE ELEVEN -PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES -MARCH 3,1999 Approval of "A" Tentative Tract Map No. 28888 by adoption of Resolution No. 99-2, based on Findings and Conditions of Approval. Chairman Wilsey opened the public hearing at 8:40 p.m. and asked the applicant to address the planning commission and audience, noting the Commission received three pieces of correspondence regarding the issue. Jim Resney, representative of TMC, gave an overview of R-1 subdivisions and noted that in most R-1 Subdivisions there is no open space. He presented an overview of the original plan versus the amended plan and asked for consideration for the amount of open space and allow the flexibility due to low density for smaller lots. He noted that no matter what size lots or locations, the project is still limited to 1,200 units. Mr. Resney stated that he felt that Condition No. 6 answered the concerns for smaller lots. He noted that Condition No. 6 as worded is a major problem and asked that it read as follows: 6. 75% of the proposed single-family detached lots that are between 5,000 to 6,000 sf. shall be sited along golf courses, open spaces or elevated pads. Mr. Resney stated that they would like this condition to go away completely and he thinks it is appropriate since they are committed to create as many view lots as possible. He further stated that although TMC does appreciate the City's concern, they feel that this is fair. He noted a letter presented to Planning Commission dated March 2, which addresses Condition No. 6, and why they feel the suggested changes are merited. He then noted a letter presented to the Planning Commission dated March 3, which addresses verbiage changes to other conditions and stated that Condition No. 7 should be addressed since they will be self-sufficient and create no impact on the Lighting and Landscaping. William Flores, 21891 Red Gum Drive, stated his concern regarding the watershed and drainage. He noted further concern regarding phosphates that will intrude into the water table.. He stated a concern regarding the grading of the project, which will expose thousand of yards of new soil, which will expose metals to the elements, and there is no possibility of knowing how that will affect the watershed. He noted the problem with phosphates and nitrates added to the ground water from the golf course. He defined non-potable water and stressed that it is not reclaimed water and suggested that they use reclaimed water instead. He stated concerns for the need of a fire station and traffic circulation was not properly mitigated. PAGE TWELVE -PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES -MARCH 3, 1999 Gary Grant, 27068 Jarvis Street, Perris, noted that as Lake Elsinore grows it could impact their area. He stated that he has one concern and that is the violation of the Quimby Act. He cited the County Resolution regarding building parks on openspace. He further stated that he felt the City had overlooked the Quimby Act and should address this issue. He further noted that a good community has laws of good faith and adheres to those laws. Joe Grumbline, 26521 Hammock Avenue, Perris, stated that he owns property adjacent to the project and that he is concerned how this project will affect the water table and Eco-system of the area. He explained that he has wells on his property and is concerned with the ground water and how it will affect his water. Gene Frick, 17205 Montery Road, stated his opposition to the project. He read a presentation to the Planning Commission and commented that he only had three days to prepare his comments. He requested a continuance of the hearing and failing that, he would make a partial presentation and submit the remainder of his comments to the City's Planning Department prior to the City Council hearing. He addressed Fire Protection, which he felt was not adequate. He further addressed the need to recirculate an EIR when significant new information is added to the EIR after a public notice is given of the availability of the draft EIR for public review. Mark Conavey, 20111 Shorewood, Huntington Beach, commented that he and his partner own multiple sections of acreage around the project and that they are in favor of the project. He stated that the area has been full of garbage and this project will encourage a clean up of the area. He stressed, that this project would improve the area and encourage better future development. He further stated that he is sure the City will provide adequate fire and police protection and noted that anything is better than what is there now. Steve Haney, 8662 Lomead, Huntington Beach, spoke in favor of the project and stated that he owns property next to the project. He noted that this is a first step in upgrading the area and he is glad to see it happen. George Edsel, 29315 Third Street, stated that he lives in the Warm Springs area which is contiguous to the project and stated that he is not in opposition to the project nor in favor of it. He stated that he still feels that he needs more information to make a determination. He commented that the City needs to have a finding from Riverside County Flood Control and the County Transportation Department. He noted the limitation of the ingress and egress of the project as well as PAGE THIRTEEN -PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES - MARCH 3,1999 flood control drainage. He asked that the City makes sure that the water flow is proper and that the traffic be properly mitigated. He further noted that there is a future potential problem with sewage and how waste will be managed Lois Muller, 28462 El Toro Road, indicated that she lives on the small section of paved roadway on El Toro Road. She stated that El Toro Road is the only way to get to Nichols Road and there are 23 children that live in her neighborhood on that section of roadway. She noted that there are no sidewalks and explained that there will be school buses and they will not be able to make the curves in the roadway without crossing the double yellow line. She stated that this should have been picked up in a traffic study and she felt that they have not done their job properly if this was not noted. She explained that there is a section of.Dexter that could be used to go to Nichols road that -_ could be used instead of El Toro Road and it only h.as 3 houses on it instead of 15. She indicated that they already experience a major problem with traffic and the North Peak project will just add to it. She stated that other than the traffic circulation, she has no problem with the project. Chairman Wilsey asked if there were any other persons who wished to speak on the project. Mary Venerable, 29400 Third Street, stated that she is located in the Warm Springs area. She questioned the following: 1. What direction the sewer line will follow to get to EVMWD? 2. What directions will the different sewer lines follow and could it be noted on a map? 3. Are reports available from the Riverside County Flood Control Department of their review of the flood control measures recommended by TMC? Chairman Wilsey asked if anyone from TMC would like to address the speakers concerns. Mr. Resney stated that there have been two previous Study Sessions that have addressed the technological issues in depth. He noted that all of these questions have been answered at previous meetings and in writing as well. He stated that if the Commission would like any of the questions answered this evening, then he will call upon his consultants to do so. Chairman Wilsey stated that there are a lot of people concerned about the water table and flood~control. PAGE FOURTEEN -PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES - MARCH 3, 1999 , Mr. Steve Ross addressed the drainage flows and presented a slide presentation, which illustrated the drainage flow and the catch basins. He addressed the water quality issues and stated that the EIR and the Specific Plan are both clear on the point that the sub surface geology in this area is characterized by shallow bedrock conditions. He noted that while there are pockets of ground water, there is no widespread aquifer therefore, the drainage coming off this project would follow existing or improved drainage channels. He further noted that very little would find its way, because of the impervious rock, into the limited pockets of ground water. Senior Planner Morita explained that the EIR is a response to comment document and in that document. He noted that within the document it shows that the City received two letters from Riverside County Flood Control .and explained that they were in that process early on when the project was first addressed. Mr. Morita read portions of the letter from the Riverside County Flood Control District, which clearly states that the Plan was examined by the County Flood Control, and that most of the previous comments have been addressed. He noted that in the letter from Riverside County Flood Control, their only real concern deals with downstream adverse impacts on downstream properties and existing facilities due to this development and that it was their understanding that it will be mitigated by developing a system of five lakes which are related to the golf course. Commissioner Sands asked if the comments received have also come from the Water Districts as well. Senior Planner Morita explained that these letters are in response to the EIR and are included in the EIR and it is public record. Commissioner Schiffner stated that the maps would not be approved and recorded by the County until the Flood Control District has approved all of the drainage. Senior Planner Morita asked the City Engineer to address this issue. City Engineer O'Donnell stated that the Flood Control would check and approve all the major drainage structures, however they do not approve the internal drainage facilities because the City approves them. Commissioner Schiffner asked if the County would be approving the total drainage pattern. City Engineer O'Donnell stated that the City would be doing that. He stated that the City can have the Riverside County Flood Control District review for approval if the Commission desires the County to do that. Commissioner Matthies stated that she felt that would answer the concern of the different speakers. City Engineer O'Donnell stated that the plans would be sent to the County for review and approval. PAGE FIFTEEN -PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES -MARCH 3,1999 Chairman Wilsey asked if the Fire Response and the Traffic Circulation on Nichols Road could be addressed. Tom Ryan, City of Lake Elsinore Environmental Consultant, noted that there were several meetings with the Fire Department and explained their requirements for mitigation. He stated that the Fire Department determined that the project was not large enough to require a Fire Station in and of it's self. He indicated that the concerns that Mr. Frick stated are addressed in the EIR. He noted that in the draft EIR identified the cumulative impacts on fire and emergency services were potentially significant and they did identify the number of police officers and fire personnel that would be required for cumulative projects for North Peak and other Projects that would come on line at a future time. He further noted that the City is working with the County on a Master Plan for Fire Services. He stated that he does not believe that there are issues with respect to recirculation on the fire services. He stressed that the EIR discussed the fire issues to an adequate level. Chairman Wilsey asked for clarification on the Master Plan of Fire. Community Development Director Brady stated that the County and City are in the process of developing the Master Plan. John King, Traffic Consultant, stated that the specific concern that he identified was the connection related to Dexter/El Toro Road out to Nichols Road. He stressed that it is a tough issue and stated that what is being proposed for the project is an excellent roadway connection all the way down connecting to the freeway ramps and Collier Road and will well serve the project. He explained that it would be 46 feet wide paved two-lane roadway with a stripped median area allowing for left turns. He further explained that it would improve access from the freeway into the Warm Springs area as well as the project. He noted that there will be traffic, however with build-out of the 1200 homes the capacity will case no problems. He noted that it is better to have a direct connection. He indicated that they fully understand the concerns of the local citizens and have met with County and City Staff on this issue. He further noted the traffic related to the High School. He stated that this issue has not totally resolved, however the applicant is willing to work with the County and City to accomplish a solution to this issue.. Chairman Wilsey asked if it would be practical to not allow Dexter to enter Nichols. Mr. King stated that it is a possibility. He noted that it could be disconnected or not make the connection in the first place, however the most efficient method is direct connection. He explained that there has been no clear consensus on how to address this issue and a lot of this issue revolves around the High School. He further PAGE SIXTEEN -PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES -MARCH 3, 1999 noted that when there is traffic on residential fronted roadway there is a nuisance concern for the residents. Commissioner Schiffner asked if this would impact the traffic opposite from the school, to eliminate some traffic that would be put on this connection. Mr. King stated that it would. Chairman Wilsey asked if there was anyone else wishing to speak on the project. The following persons spoke: Doug Heiner, 26215 El Toro Road, stated that he had hoped that sometime in the future there would be a connection to Highway 74. He noted that the only way that access can be made is down El Toro Road. He stated that he is in favor of the project, however he is concerned about the access to Highway 74 if the community is gated. Mr. King stated that it is double-edged sword and gave an overview of the total traffic circulation plan and the concept plan for the plan. Toni Johnson, 47550 Rock Mountain Road, stated that she has property in the area. She noted that she did not know that this was a gated community and she felt that a direct connection to Highway 74 would be an improvement to the whole area and should not be cut off from other residents and property. Lois Muller, 28462 El Toro Road, stated that on some of the older maps show Dexter going straight through to Nichols. She noted that some of the land is owned by the City and some by the County and there seems to be as problem with between the two agencies, however that would be the best answer inputting that roadway straight through. She asked that this roadway position be addressed. Joe Rush, 27530 Lindell Road, indicated that he has children who get off the bus at the proposed roadway and stated that a stop sign and cross walk should be considered during the planning of this roadway. Gary Grant, stated that Perris and Hemet are planning on coming through the area on Ethanac Road to meet with the I-15 and this should be discussed with the County. Chiarman Wilsey closed the public hearing at 10:00 p.m. Commissioner Barnes asked when the EIR was released for public comment. Senior Planner Morita stated that it was available September 8, 1998 through November 3, 1998, which was for a period of 66 days. Commissioner Barnes asked how many requests Planning got for review. Senior Planner Morita stated that he received 11 letters and responded to all of them. He stated that 6 of the letters were from government agencies and 5 letter were from residents. PAGE SEVENTEEN -PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES - MARCH 3,1999 Commissioner Barnes stated that in the hand-outs that were presented to the Commission, Condition No. 10 is not worded correctly and cannot be acted upon as its worded. Commissioner Schiffner asked that staff comment on the changes proposed by TMC on the conditions. Community Developer Brady asked that the Deputy City Attorney address these conditions. Deputy City Attorney McClendon reviewed the conditions from TMC as follows: Condition No. 7 - The wording is not necessary and the - condition should stay as written Condition No.'10 - The condition should read: Prior to issuance of building permit, the Applicant shall dedicate parkland or pay all required parkland in lieu of fees as required by State Law and City requirements. Condition No. 12 - This condition is surplus and should be left alone. This is not necessary. Condition No. 21 - This condition is surplus and should be left alone. This is not necessary. Condition No. 29 - .Prior to issuance of permit, applicant shall enter into an agreement with the City, that requires the project to make the City whole by paying the City in advance year an amount sufficient to off-set the negative fiscal impact which the City projects will result in the up-coming year from the project. Said Agreement may take the form of applicant's participation in a "Annual Special Tax Assessment" or other arrangements. Condition No. 32 - TMC and. City staff will have to work with EVMWD. Condition remains. Senior Planner Morita stated that the purpose of Condition No. 29 was not only to look at project specific issues, but rather the intent was to deal with the issue of fire~from a regional standpoint, public safety, PAGE EIGHTEEN -PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES - MARCH 3,1999 police and also roadway maintenance. He stated that the intent is beyond the project of it's own. He indicated that he is not sure how the condition could be quantified. Commissioner Schiffner asked what kind of action could be taken that will allow staff to work out the verbiage of those conditions. Community Development Director Brady stated that what the Deputy City Attorney pointed out is that if the Commissioners are agreeable with the changes, those could be added tonight. Commissioner Matthies asked that sewage be addressed. Mr. Resney stated the sewer line runs down from NicholslEl Toro Road, to Dexter to Third Street, and crosses the Freeway to the Treatment Plant. Commissioner Matthies questioned the Quimby Laws. Deputy City Attorney McClendon stated that this issue is clarified in Condition 10. Commissioner Matthies questioned the dentition ponds and asked if the man-made ponds are concrete lined or natural. Tom Bronze, consultant for TMC, stated the ponds are for temporary dentition and will drain slowly. He stressed that they are not concrete lined. Commissioner Sands questioned the minimum dwelling unit size and stated that it was his impression that in previous discussion it was determined that the minimum would be 1,200 sf. and 1,500 sf. that were agreed upon. Mr. Resney stated that the smaller units of 1,000 sf. and 1,200 sf. were agreed upon because they will be used as second homes. He noted that this would give a wider range of flexibility for the golf community. Community Development Director Brady stated that the size is consistent with existing requirements. Commissioner Sands addressed the final EIR and noted that on page 96, it states that trash "may" be collected by a licensed waste hauler, and this should read "will". Commissioner Sands stated that he has never seen a proposed project that has received so much scrutiny and commended TMC and City staff for their professional presentation. He indicated would like to see further action taken with the Traffic Circulation. He commented that he hoped the residents of Warm Springs realize that this is a long range product and could take as much as 15 years to total completion. Chairman Wilsey addressed the Specific Plan on Page 12 on the bottom of the page, which addresses the golf course and stated that they will be opened to the public during daylight hours only. He stated that he would like to see verbiage that would change that to PAGE NINETEEN -PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES - MARCH 3, 1999 accommodate special events that might occur after dark. Mr. Resney stated that they would change that since it was always their intention to leave it open for special events. Chairman Wilsey questioned the use of the verbiage "School Site Overlay". He stated that it was his understanding that the School District was not going to place a school within the project. He asked if it was necessary or if it should be removed. Mr. Resney stated that there would be no school, however it does not affect the Specific Plan. Chairman Wilsey stated that it could be left in. Chairman Wilsey questioned Page 33, regarding landscaping requirements. Senior Planner Morita stated that this was flagged for discussion and the language will go back into the Specific Plan. Commissioner Barnes questioned Page 33 and noted that he did not find a B-5. Mr. Resney stated that it is 10-B-5. Chairman Wilsey noted Page 44 and stated that he feels that there needs to be a consistency between the City and the County regarding Nichols Road. He further questioned the fencing standards and clarified that it refers back to the current standards. Commissioner Schiffner clarified that it calls out that the fencing would be at current City standards at the time of permit. Chairman Wilsey addressed Page 87, stated that Cable TV Services refer to Continental Cablevision and the City is serviced. by Media- One and this should be changed. Section 5 on Solid Waste and stated that this should remain with whomever the City contracts with. He noted that CR&R provides the City with street sweeping and questioned if this would apply to the project since they will have private streets. There was general discussion regarding the street sweeping services and the fact that it was part of the cost of the waste management and their streets should be done. Commissioner Schiffner addressed the bottom of Page 88 and stated that it is no longer Goodhew Ambulance, but rather American Ambulance. He addressed Page 113, and stated that the numeral 6' 6" for fencing height has not been crossed out and should be to be consistent. Commissioner Schiffner asked for clarification of Page 140 regarding 2°a paragraph at the top of the page. Mr. Resney stated that during construction phasing, temporary cul-de-sacs will be used to facilitate construction. Commissioner Schiffner clarified that none of the streets would be dedicated to the City. Mr. Resney concurred. PAGE TWENTY -PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES -MARCH 3,1999 Commissioner Sands questioned the verbiage of Section "D" Page 12. Commissioner Schiffner clarified the verbiage. Commissioner Sands clarified the section on Land Use Categories. Commissioner Sands asked if the setbacks on Page 66 are addressed elsewhere in the text. Mr. Ross explained that this verbiage is redundant since it is repeated later on in the document. Commissioner Barnes commended City Staff and TMC for the good job they have done with the project. Chairman Wilsey questioned Condition No. 6. He asked the Senior Planner to address this issue. Senior Planner Morita stated that the suggestion by TMC for Condition No. 6 is fine from a Planning standpoint. Community Development Director Brady stated that he is not opposed to modifying this condition to allow greater flexibility. He stated that the condition was written based on what he understood from the Study Sessions of the Planning Commission and the Council wished it to be written in this manner. Chairman Wilsey stated that what he was looking for on the smaller lot size was an overview of open space and golf course. Mr. Ross stated that there were a lot of different ideas discussed at the Study Sessions to address the smaller lots. He stated that he thought that theyhad addressed this issue by limiting the amount of lots that can be found at that size. He stated that TMC felt that that Condition No. 6 is redundant and not necessary to the project since it is addressed in ~~ other areas. Commissioner Barnes noted a recent project that he visited and the cost of the smaller lots. Commissioner Schiffner stated that he felt that the issue has been addressed by limiting the number of units that can build on the smaller lots. Chairman Wilsey stated that he felt that the verbiage should clarify that it is not just golf course views but also open space views as well. Planning Commission concurred with the alternate wording on Condition No. 6. Mr. Resney concurred with the changes. PAGE TWENTY-ONE -PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES - MARCH 3,1999 Chairman Wilsey questioned the Citywide Lighting and Landscaping District. City Engineer O'Donnell explained that the Citywide Lighting and Landscaping is broken up in three different tiers and one of the parts of that plan pays for our arterial streets landscaping, street lighting and traffic signal lighting. He noted that they would not have to pay for the interior landscaping on their streets, however they would have to contribute to the other. Deputy City Attorney McClendon clarified the stated conditions. Chairman Wilsey asked what should be done with Condition No. 32. Deputy City Attorney McClendon stated that it is his recommendation to leave it a~ it is and allow staff to work with the project applicant and EVMWD. Deputy City Attorney McClendon corrected Resolution No. 99-2, Section 2, Item 1, 1st Paragraph, line 2 delete Habitat Conservation Plan because it is not a requirement of CEQA. Section 2, Item 1, 2"a Paragraph should read as follows: .The North Peak Specific Plan Amendment No. 2 will result in unavoidable impacts relating to construction-related air pollution, traffic-generated air pollution and noise generated by future City-wide traffic. A Statement of Overriding Considerations was prepared to set forth the project's benefits, which offset these unavoidable impacts. The City can approve the Specific Plan Amendment No. 2 even through the Specific Plan Amendment No. 2 will cause significant effects on the environment, as described in Sections 15043 and 15093 of CEQA Guidelines, and Sections 21002 and 21081 of the California Public Resources Code. Section 3 should read as follow: The Planning Commission hereby recommends that the City Council certify Environmental Impact Report No. 98-2 based upon the facts and findings in the staff report and presented at the public hearing and approve General Plan Amendment No. 98-2, North Peak Specific Plan Amendment No. 2, and "A" Tentative Tract Map No. 28888, based upon the findings in the staff report, the conditions of approval, and corrections, documents presented to and noted by the Planning Commission following the public hearing. PAGE TWENTY-TWO -PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES - MARCH 3,1999 MOVED BY MATTHIES, SECONDED BY BARNES AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE TO RECOMMEND TO THE CITY COUNCIL THE FOLLOWING: CERTIFY ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT N0.98-2 BY ADOPTION OF RESOLUTION NO. 99-2, BASED ON THE FINDINGS AND CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL FOUND THE STAFF REPORT; APPROVE GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT N0.98-2 BY ADOPTION OF RESOLUTION NO. 99-2, BASED ON THE FINDING AND CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL FOUND THE STAFF REPORT; APPROVE NORTH PEAK SPECIFIC PLAN AMENDMENT N0.2 BY ADOPTION OF RESOLUTION N0.99-2, BASED ON THE FINDINGS AND CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL FOUND IN THE STAFF REPORT; APPROVAL OF "A" TENTATIVE TRACT MAP NQ. 28888 BY ADOPTION OF RESOLUTION N0.99-2, BASED ON THE FINDINGS AND CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL FOUND IN THE STAFF REPORT, WITH THE FOLLOWING CHANGES: Condition No. 6 - A minimum of 75 percent of the proposed single-family detached lots that are in the 5,000 to 6,000 sf. range must either: • Have their rear yards adjacent to the golf course(s), designated Open Space area, or the Conservation Bank; or • Have the elevation of the lot (at the rear of the lot) be at least 22 feet higher than the adjacent residential lot. It should be noted that per Section 10.B4 of the North Peak Specific Plan Amendment No. 2 document, these are approximate sizes and some of the lots may exceed 6,000 sf. on the final "B" Tentative Tract Map, but none shall be less than 5,000 sf. (Revised by Planning Commission) Condition No. 10 - The condition should read: Prior to issuance of building permit, the Applicant shall dedicate parkland or pay all required parkland in lieu of fees as required by State Law and City requirements. PAGE TWENTY THREE -PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES - MARCH 3,1999 Condition No. 29 - Prior to issuance of first permit, applicant shall enter into an agreement with the .City, that requires the project to make the City whole by paying the City in advance year an amount sufficient to off-set the negative fiscal impact which the City projects will result in the up-coming year from the project. Said Agreement may take the form of applicant's participation in a "Annual Special Tax Assessment" or other arrangements. Resolution No. 99-2, Section 2, Item 1,1st Paragraph, line 2 - delete Habitat Conservation Plan because it is not a requirement of CEQA. Section 2, Item 1, 2"a Paragraph should read as follows: The North Peak Specific Plan Amendment No. 2 will result in unavoidable impacts relating to construction-related air pollution, traffic-generated air pollution and noise generated by future City-wide traffic. A Statement of Overriding Considerations was prepared to set forth the project's benefits, which offset these unavoidable impacts. The City can approve the Specific Plan Amendment No. 2 even through the Specific Plan Amendment No. 2 will cause significant effects on the environment, as described in Sections 15043 and 15093 of CEQA Guidelines, and Sections 21002 and 21081 of the California Public Resources Code. Section 3 should read as follow: The Planning Commission hereby recommends that the City Council certify Environmental Impact Report No. 98-2 based upon the facts and findings in the staff report and presented at the public hearing and approve General Plan Amendment No. 98-2, North Peak Specific Plan Amendment No. 2, and "A" Tentative Tract Map No. 28888, based upon the findings in the staff report, the conditions of approval, and corrections, documents presented to and noted by the Planning Commission following the public hearing. BUSINESS ITEMS None PAGE TWENTY-FOUR -PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES - MARCH 3, 1999 INFORMATIONAL Community Development Director Brady, on behalf of all of the staff, offered congratulations to Commissioner Schiffner on his appointment to the City Council. He stated that he will be missed on the Planning Commission and wished him well. PLANNING COMMISSION COMMENTS Chairman Wilsey congratulated Commissioner Schiffner on his appointment to City Council. Commissioner Barnes asked for City Council to send him back. Commissioner Schiffner stated that it has been a gratifying experience to work with all the members of Planning Commission. He stated that he hoped his experience on Planning Commission will sever him well on City Council. Commissioner Matthies commended TMC and City Staff for the good work they did on such a detailed project. She noted all the time, work and effort that went into this project and thanked them for including the Planning Commission. ADJOURNMENT MOVED BY BARNES, SECONDED BY SANDS AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO ADJOURN THE REGULAR PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING AT 11:00 P.M. _ M j ~~ / C/ A WH,SE , C IRMAN ~'~ Respectfully submitted, ~G~i~C~~ Adria L. Bryning, Deputy Ci Clerk ATTEST: ~~ Robert A. Brady, Se etary to the Planning Commiss' n MINUTES SPECIAL PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING March 31,1999 Chairman Wilsey called the Special Planning Commission Meeting to order at 7:00 p.m. Commissioner Matthies led the Pledge of Allegiance. ROLL CALL PRESENT: COMMISSIONERS: BARNES, MATTHIES, SANDS WILSEY ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: PUBLIC COMMENTS VACANT (Due to appointment to City Council) There being no request to speak, the Public Comments section was closed. CONSENT CALENDAR None PUBLIC HEARING 2. Variance No. 99-1 and Design Review for Industrial Project No 99-1 for Lake Elsinore Self Storage located at 29151 Riverside Drive_(APN 377-050-0781 Community Development Director Brady introduced the project and noted that this is a request to construct three (3) additional buildings of approximately 15,000 square feet. He asked Senior Planner Villa to give an overview of the project. Senior Planner Villa stated that the request before the Planning Commission is for Design Review and a Variance for Lake Elsinore Self-Storage which. is currently located on the North East corner of Collier, Riverside Drive and El Toro Road. He noted that the total site is approximately 3.3 acres and the existing facility is about 2.5 acres with the new facility being .77 acres in size. He explained that the existing building is approximately 47,598 square feet, with the proposed expansion area to be approximately 15,000 square feet. He gave an overview of the locations of the proposed buildings and their PAGE TWO -SPECIAL MEETING -MARCH 31,1999 square footage. He noted that building No. 3 has received special design features because it is adjacent to Collier Avenue and will feature pilasters with cobble stones to minimize the expanse of the wall as well as the incorporation of extensive landscaping improvements along the site frontage. Senior Planner Villa gave an overview for the request for a Variance and explained that the Code calls fora 20-foot set back on the side adjacent to public right-of--way. He further explained that the applicant is requesting 15 feet at this location based on the fact that when Collier was widened, the applicant had to dedicate land and has been asked to dedicate easements for a drainage channel. He stated that the applicant had previously been approved to build two storage buildings totaling approximately 19,860 square feet and the approved application has expired. He explained that now, however the applicant cannot build at that density because of the dedications. He noted that because of the dedications, the applicant is asking fora Variance to have a 15- foot setback. Senior Planner Villa explained that the Commission is also being asked to review the proposed monument or sign for the building. He noted that this request is for design and concept and exceeds maximum height and area required. He explained that he has talked with the applicant and they have agreed to reduce the height of the wall to current standards as well as the size. Senior Planner Villa stated that it is staff's recommendation that the Planning Commission approve Variance No. 99-1 and recommend that the City Council approve Industrial Project No. 99-1 based on Exhibits "A" through "C", the Findings and Conditions of Approval attached to the staff report. Chairman Wilsey opened the public hearing at 7:05 p.m. asking those in favor of the project to speak. The following person spoke: Michael Blasi, Chancellor Group, representing the applicant, stated that they appreciate the efforts of staff and agree with the findings and conditions as presented. Chairman Wilsey asked if anyone else would like to speak on the project. Hearing no further requests, the public hearing was closed at 7:06 p.m. Commissioner Sands asked the distance of the free standing Monument Sign from the screening wall. Mr. Blowzy stated that it is proposed to be 5 feet from the property line. Commissioner Barnes questioned the drawings in his Agenda and asked if there were any missing. Senior Planner Villa stated that all of the necessary drawings are in the packet. Commissioner Barnes asked PAGE TI$REE -SPECIAL MEETING -MARCH 31,1999 if staff is satisfied with the amount of Landscaping on the blank wall. Senior Planner Villa stated that there would be an area of approximately 25 feet from the property line to the block wall with mounds to break the walla He noted. that there would be landscaping between the channel and the sidewalk. Commissioner Barnes stated that he would be in concurrence with the request. Commissioner Matthies questioned the signage. Senior Planner Villa stated that the original proposal exceeded the height and size allowed. He gave an overview of the Municipal Code. He explained that the applicant has agreed to reduce the size of the sign, however they are going to keep the same design concept. He stated that they will be submitting this at a later time. Chairman Wilsey stated that all of his questions have been answered. MOVED BY MATTHIES, SECONDED BY BARNES AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT WITH ONE SEAT VACANT TO APPROVE VARIANCE 99-1 AND RECOMMEND TO THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL OF INDUSTRIAL PROJECT NO. 99-1 BASED ON EXHIBITS, FINDINGS AND CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL FOUND IN THE STAFF REPORT. BUSINESS ITEM 3. Design Review for Industrial Project No 99-2 Carr Patterns Inc Located at the Southwest Corner of Minthorn and Chanev Streets (APN 377-160-014) Community Development Director Brady stated that this is an 89,000 square foot industrial building being proposed to be located in the City. He explained that this would be the largest building in the City of Lake Elsinore. He asked Senior Planner Villa to review the specifics of the project. Senior Planner Villa explained that this project will be located at the southwest corner of Minthorn and Chaney Streets with the project site to be approximately 5 acres in size. He noted that the proposed building is approximately 89,000 square feet in size and would include a mezzanine office area, manufacture area and storage for accessory parts for new automobiles. He further noted that the site proposes 148 parking spaces, on site, along Chaney Street, as well as approximately 31,183 square feet of landscaping which meets the landscaping and parking requirements of the Lake Elsinore Municipal Code. He explained that they meet the standard landscape setbacks. \\ PAGE F©UR -SPECIAL MEETING -MARCH 31,1999 Senior Planner Villa stated that the building will be of tilt-up construction and the elevations that are visible to Chaney Street and Minthorn Streets will incorporate an extensive use of windows on the first floor and mezzanine and wall to break up the expanse of the walls and therefore enhance the aesthetic appearance. He explained that the elevations that are not visible to the street have less treatment, however they are acceptable as well. He further explained that the proposed building exceeds the requirements of the Floor Area Ratio by 1 %, and is not considered significant. Senior Planner Villa stated that staff recommends that the Planning Commission recommend to City Council approval of Industrial Project No. 99-2 based on the Exhibits, Findings and Conditions of Approval attached to the Staff Report. Chairman Wilsey invited the applicant to speak. Jeff Carr, Joint owner of Carr Patterns, Inc., stated that he and his family are very excited to be a part of the City of Lake Elsinore. Chairman Wilsey asked the applicant how long they have been in their present location. Mr. Carr stated that they have been in their present location since 1981. He noted that they have been in business since 1945 and they are a third generation business. Chairman Wilsey stated that coming to Lake Elsinore will be like going back in time, since it will be working in a small town environment versus working in a big city. He asked if the applicant has reviewed the Conditions of Approval. Mr. Can stated that his architect has reviewed the Conditions and will answer any questions that the Commission might have. Commissioner Barnes asked if the architect has any disagreements with the Conditions of Approval. Mr. Tim Lux, Architect for the Applicant, stated that they found the Conditions of Approval acceptable. Commissioner Barnes stated thathe has no other comments and is excited to see this project come forward. Commissioner Matthies stated that the Commission would like to see a signage program as soon as possible. She commented that she loves family businesses, since she is a member of a fourth generation business here in Lake Elsinore. Commissioner Sands asked if the applicant understands Condition Nos. 21 and 44. He noted that Condition No. 21 is the Flood Zone elevation. Mr. Lux stated that he was sure that this condition was taken into consideration. Commissioner Sands questioned the applicant regarding Condition No. 21. Mr. Can stated that there would be no sale of scraps or waste, and all of their business will be PAGE FIVE -SPECIAL MEETING - MARC_T,-I 31,1999 done inside of the building. He explained that they take rawmaterials and make the products that are shipped and trucked to customers. Chairman Wilsey asked for clarification of Condition No. 46. City Engineer O'Donnell explained that the purpose of the condition is to be in compliance with the National Pollution Discharge Elimination System. He explained that the water in Lake Elsinore is monitored when it exits the storm drain system and must meet certain water quality standards. He stated that the City must enforce. the water quality standards within the City. He further explained that is why the City is asking for a Storm Water Pollution Prevention Plan (SWPPP). City Engineer O'Donnell explained that compliance can be accomplished through a pamphlet instructing Landscapers not to over water or put herbicides or pesticides where it might go into the storm drain system. He stated that the purpose of this is to keep pollution out of the storm drains and out of the Lake. He indicated that this condition will be seen more and more, especially on a project of this size. MOVED BY SANDS, SECONDED BY MATTHIES AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT WITH ONE SEAT VACANT TO RECOMMEND CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL OF INDUSTRIAL PROJECT N0.99-2 BASED ON EXHIBITS, FINDINGS AND CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL ATTACHED TO THE STAFF REPORT AND AMENDMENT TO CONDITION N0.21 CHANGING "PUNK" TO JUNK. INFORMATIONAL -None STAFF COMMENTS Community Development Director Brady stated that at the last City Council Meeting, City Council approved the North Peak Specific Plan, the Environmental Documents, Circulation Element Amendment and the Tentative Tract Map. He noted that they also reviewed the McDonalds Project and approved that, with the modification that the drive-thru canopy to be placed as part of the design. Community Development Director Brady stated that last week at the Planners Institute he gave a presentation on one of the panels regarding the City of Lake Elsinore Gardening Program. PLANNING COMMISSION COMMENTS Commissioner Matthies commented on the following: Had a great time with TMC today. She stated that they gave a very nice presentation and the helicopter ride was fun. PAGE SIX -SPECIAL MEETING -MARCH 31,1999 2. Stated that she liked the new table set-up and thanked staff. Commissioner Sands commented on the following: 1. Stated that he had enjoyed the helicopter ride as well. Commissioner Wilsey commented on the following: Stated that he likes Condition No. 46 and feels that the City could addressed this as well. He noted the problem with the Center Island on Old Grand Avenue and the fact that over watering has damaged the inside lane on that roadway. He suggested that the City tell the Landscape Maintenance people to cut the water back. 2. Stated he has seen no improvement regarding the sinkhole. He stated that it is increasing in size. Questioned the driveway problem that was experienced between KFC and Jiffy Lube. Community Development Director Brady stated that KFC was to bring in a letter of agreement. He indicated that if they do, then it would be taken to City Council at the next Meeting. He stated that the agreement would be that the left-had turn lane would be allowed in at the present location and in the future if the City determines that the left-hand turn lane is a danger, it will be eliminated. Chairman Wilsey gave. an overview of the problem. Commissioner Barnes commented on the following: Questioned the status of the driveway of KFC on Riverside Drive. Community Development Director Brady stated that he does not know the current status. Chairman Wilsey stated that it was a problem with the owners of the KFC and their contractor. He noted that they poured the curbing today, so he felt that the project must be proceeding. ADJOURNMENT MOVED BY SANDS, SECONDED BY BARNES AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT WITH ONE SEAT VACANT TO ADJOURN THE SPECIAL PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING AT 7:30 P.M. PAGE SEVEN -SPECIAL MEETING -MARCH 31,1999 ctfully submitted, //g , ~y ` L~.I,B~lry~ning, Deputy ty Clerk Robert A. Brady, Planning to the MINUTES PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING Apri17,1999 Chairman Wilsey called the Special Planning Commission Meeting to order at 7:01 p.m. Commissioner Barnes led the Pledge of Allegiance. ROLL CALL PRESENT: COMMISSIONERS: BARNES, SANDS, WILSEY ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: MATTHIES, VACANT (Due to appointment to City Council) Also present were: Community Development Director Brady, City Engineer O'Donnell, Senior Planner Villa, Assistant Planner Miller and Deputy City Clerk Bryning PUBLIC COMMENTS There being no request to speak, the Public Comments section was closed. CONSENT CALENDAR MOVED BY SANDS, SECONDED BY BARNES AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT WITH ONE ABSENT AND ONE SEAT VACANT TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR AS PRESENTED. Minutes a. Planning Commission Regular Meeting -March 3, 1999 PUBLIC HEARINGS 2. Tentative Parcel Map No. 29241 DGS Development Partners Community Development Director Brady introduced the project and stated that the Banana Boat project was brought before the Planning Commission earlier this year. He asked Senior Planner to present a review of the project. Senior Planner Villa stated that in December 1998, staff presented a proposal for an Industrial Project which entailed development of a PAGE TFVO -PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES -APRIL 7, 1999 building of approximately 19,000 square feet to be occupied by the Banana Boat. He explained that the project also included aself- storage facility adjacent to the development. He noted that Central Avenue, Pasadena Street and Crane Street bound the project. Senior Planner Villa stated that the applicant is now before Planning Commission with a request to subdivide approximately 9.46 acres of vacant land into two (2) parcels. He noted that the first parcel is to be 2.3 acres occupied by Banana Boat;. and the second parcel would be approximately 7.1 acre occupied by aself-storage facility. He noted that staff has reviewed the proposal and found that the proposed subdivision meets all applicable standards of the Title 16 subdivision and Title 17 of the Municipal code. He further explained Staff found the project is exempt under CEQA, pursuant to Section 15315 which prevents the requirement for an environmental clearance for any subdivision of four parcels or less. Senior Planner Villa stated that staff recommends that the Planning Commission recommend to City Council approval of Parcel Map 29241, based on the Findings, Exhibit "A", and Conditions of Approval found in the Staff Report. Chairman Wilsey opened the public hearing at 7:06 p.m. and asked if there was anyone who would like to speak in favor or opposition to the project. Hearing none, Chairman Wilsey closed the public hearing at 7:07 p.m. Commissioner Sands stated that with the exception of a typo in the Environmental Section of the staff report he had no questions. Commissioner Barnes stated that he had no .questions and concurred with the staff recommendation. Chairman Wilsey noted that this is a lot-split that they are proposing before they start the project. MOVED BY BARNES, SECONDED BY SANDS AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT WITH ONE ABSENT AND ONE VACANCY TO RECOMMEND THAT CITY COUNCIL APPROVE TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP 29241, BASED ON THE FINDINGS, EXHIBIT AND CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL ATTACHED TO THE STAFF REPORT. BUSII\'ESS ITEMS 3. Minor Desim Review for R No 99-1 Torn Ranch Builders LLC. Community Development Director Brady explained that this is a minor design review for development of homes in the Torn Ranch PAGE THTiEE -PLANNING CDMMISSIUN MINUTES -APRIL 7, 1999 area, ranging in size from 1746 sf. to 2726 sf. in size. He gave an overview of the background of the project and noted that residents who live on Washington Street appeared before the City Council and expressed their concern regarding the traffic on Washington Street. He further explained that the staff made a review of the traffic conditions on Washington. and stop signs were installed at Dijon and Washington in an attempt to slow down traffic. Community Development Director Brady stated that the Police Department did provide and continues to provide enforcement in the area as well. He explained when this project comes back for further action, City Council can recommend that staff look at traffic mitigation measures and designs that would help to reduce some of the traffic movements that would occur on Washington Street. He stated that staff has been working with the applicant and have come up with some suggestions and recommendations on how to address these concerns. He asked that Assistant Planner Miller, the Project Manager and Ray O'Donnell, City Engineer address the project. Assistant Planner Miller explained that the project would include 4 models, a parking lot, phase 1 plotting of 201ots and a phasing plan of 7 phases on 25 acres. She noted that Torn Ranch is part of Lucerne tract map that was approved in 1888. She stated that an amendment was made in 1994 to the current configuration. She further. explained that the project is located in the northwest part of town, which consists of family homes and the existing neighboring tracts are an average of 1800 sf. Assistant Planner Miller stated that staff feels that the sizes of the units are compatible with the existing homes in the area. She noted that the architectural style is California/Mediterranean type common to the area; colors are earth tone; and the materials are stucco, wood and tile. She further stated that staff feels architecture, color and materialswill blend with existing style. She explained that traffic has been discussed and reviewed with staff and the applicant does not feel this is an issue at this time. She stated that staff recommends approval of the project. City Engineer O'Donnell acknowledged the concern regarding traffic conditions and gave an overview of a plan to address the traffic issues. He noted that the perimeter streets are Lakeshore, Machado, Lincoln and Grand Avenue, with the Torn Ranch tract between Washington and Sinclair. He explained that the residents proposed a double cul- de-sac on Washington Street. He noted that staff does not agree and noted downsides to that proposal. He explained that Mariners way and North Lake Drive, both connect with Washington and right now that is the only street they can exit from. He further noted that people are speeding out of those areas because it is a straight shot. He gave an overview of the solutions and noted the use of a cul-de-sac and choker street to control the speed of traffic. PAGE FOUP. - PLANNli~TG COMMISSIt7N MINUTES -APRIL 7, 1999 Mr. Mike Finley, representative of Torn Ranch Builders, LLC, stated that they have an office on site and noted their involvement in the community will be for about 2-3 yeazs during the build out. He noted that the local residents have much more at stake regazding the traffic than Torn Ranch Builders does and he would like to see the problems resolved and move forward with his project. Chairman Wilsey asked if Mr. Finley had made a review of the conditions and did he have any questions. Mr. Finley stated that he did not receive the conditions until this morning, however staff can address the majority of his concerns. Chairman Wilsey cautioned him to ask any of his questions he might have at this time because the conditions aze being considered for approval at this time. Mr. Finley concurred. Desiree O'Neil, 15253 Washington Avenue, stated that she met with Mr. Robert and City Engineer O'Donnell yesterday and suggested that a 3 way stop be installed at St. Claire Street. She stated that she would like more police patrol until the proposed changes have been made. She noted that a Police Officer worked Washington. Street two weeks ago and gave out 9 tickets for people going over speed limit which was up to 50 mph. She explained that the drivers have no concern for the people on Washington and Terra Cotta Streets. Commissioner Sands asked what the posted speed limit is. Ms. O'Neil stated that it is 25 miles per hour on Washington Street. John Custer, 193 S. Terra Cotta on the corner of St. Claire and Terra Cotta, noted that there is a stop sign at Broadway and one at Washington, however the drivers don't pay attention and it is a literal drag race. He stated that a stop sign at Terra Cotta and St. Claire would help or even some speed bumps would help immensely. He explained that it is not just the residents, it's the. kids flying through there as well. He explained that St. Claire Street has a built in speed control system since every block has a drainage ditch. Sue Schultz, 157 S. Terra Cotta, stated that for the last 10 yeazs she's been telling City about the traffic problem in their area. She asked why the residents on Terra Cotta have to put up with raceway. She stressed that if a police car is not sitting in the area every minute of the day and night the problem still exists. She stated that she does not feel that the choker device will work. She explained that Terra Cotta was adead-end street when she moved in and she is willing to bet that the property values have dropped $20,000 since street was punched through. She made note of the Environmental Impact Report PAGE FIVE -PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES -APRIL 7, 1999 and stated that there would be no impact from the 180 houses if Terra .Cotta were a dead end as it was when she moved in. She stated that she and her family have a very difficult time getting in and out of their ..own driveway due to traffic. Orville Boutilier, 15245 Washington Street, stated that he has lived in Lake Elsinore for 2 1/2 years. He noted that there is no green belt in the development as he had been told there would be when he purchased property. He noted the problem with traffic and stated that they can not ask the Police Department to set up substation on Dijon, which he felt would be the only way to solve the problem. He explained that he is not in opposition to new homes or neighbors, however is opposed to traffic problems. Ed Avalos, 181 S. Terra Cotta Road, stated that he bought his home because the street was closed off and created safe environment for his children to play. He noted that he did file a petition with other neighbors to try to get stop signs in the neighborhood and one was placed at Broadway and Terra Cotta, however no stop sign at St Claire because the City said there was not enough traffic flow. He suggested more stop signs and white reflectors at comers going across the street to try to slow people down. He noted that Broadway has rain gutter dips, so there is no problem there. He noted the need for a park in the development to facilitate the area. Chairman Wilsey requested the City Engineer to step to the podium to answer a few questions. He asked if a stop sign could be placed at St. Claire. City Engineer O'Donnell stated that the purpose of a stop sign is to control traffic and not speed. He explained that the design that he presented was to control speed and stressed that it is not a good idea to use stop signs. for speed control. He noted the suggestion for speed bumps, however the Police and Fire Department do not recommend their use because of response speed and safety issues. He stated that there are other traffic calming devises such asround-abouts and delineators. Commissioner Barnes asked if speed bumps create liability for the City. City Engineer O'Donnell stated that if a driver can prove that a speed bump contributed to an accident, then the City is liable. Chairman Wilsey asked what kind of time frame would we be looking at to get good analysis of the impacts the new housing tract would have. City Engineer O'Donnell stated that Mr. Finley would be better able to answer the potential traffic impacts with build out, however the traffic impacts would be different with each phase as it goes in. He explained that what is being discussed is the current traffic conditions, but what it is going to be will be different in another 2-3 months when the builder goes into his first phase. Chairman Wilsey __ PAGE SIX -PLANNING COMMISSION MIN~ITES -APRIL 7,1999 stated that he would like to see this analyzed and brought back before Planning Commission in possibly six months. He noted that would be after the models have been completed and the staff would be better able to judge the impact this will have on the surrounding neighborhood. City Engineer O'Donnell stated that if the City slows traffic down from Terra Cotta Road the traffic is going to switch to Torn Ranch Road. Desiree O'Neil stated that if the City has liability for car accidents, they should also assume liability for the children on Washington should a car hit them. She stated that if anything should happen to her children, the City will be responsible and liable since they are aware of the problem. She explained that this is her third time bringing this to the City. Commissioner Barnes asked if the conditions for the cul-de-sac and choker style street would be required at the time of issuance of the Certificate of Occupancy for the models. Chairman Wilsey stated that he felt that this would be prudent. City Engineer O'Donnell stated that there has been discussion regarding the models for the tract. He noted that the models will be located on California Street. He explained that the first phase is proposed to be built on both sides of Massachusetts then proceed in construction towards Ralph, Torn Ranch and Pennsylvania. He noted thafthe final phases would be constructed on California, Nebraska and nearby areas. City Engineer O'Donnell noted that he would like cul-de-sac placed with the first phase. Then California will be a free street without any problems. He proposed that the developer should be conditioned to place the cul-de- sac during the first phase and the whole block be built out to allow California to be a free street. Commissioner Barnes asked if the condition would include the revision to the intersection at Dijon. City Engineer O'Donnell stated that it would. Commissioner Barnes asked if Mr. Finley had any comments regarding the possible condition. Mr. Finley stated that Mr. O'Donnell is the Engineer and he stated that he is not. He reiterated that they will be out of the community in the next couple of years, therefore he would like to see issue resolved. He stated that however, his preference would be to put cul-de-sac at Washington and Terra Cotta. He explained that there are a couple of reasons: 1) that seems to be area of speed; 2) with the amount of kids crossing the street in that area there should have crosswalk and cul-de-sac. Mr. Finley stated that they will be constructing 183 homes and there will be several areas that children will be crossing for school. He noted that during Construction the models will be California Street and the best way to bring traffic to the models is on Lincoln then down North Lake. He explained that from a sales point, when people come down Lincoln, \, PAGE SEVEN -PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES -APRIL 7, 1999 they see the body of water of Lake Elsinore and it is a pretty sight to promote a new area. He questioned the condition that prohibits construction traffic on Terra Cotta. or Torn Ranch Road. He clarified the areas on the exhibit map that will have to be used for construction traffic There was general discussion of the placement of the cul-de-sac. Chairman Wilsey stated that he is going to recommend during Commission Comments that the City Engineer work up some traffic control alternatives and take the ideas to Council to address. He noted that the speeding problem needs to be addressed in a timely manner to allow the City to get a handle on it. Commissioner Sands stated that he is torn in his consideration of this matter. He noted that the builder is willing to change his phasing to help these people and the City can't lower speed limit because people ignore it anyway. Sue Schultz, 157 S. Terra Cotta, stated that if a cul-de-sac is placed where the builder proposed she felt that it would contribute to slowing the traffic down. She explained that when her street was not a through street they did not have the speeding problems. Chairman Wilsey stated that at the time that Terra. Cotta was blocked, the other two tracts did not exist. She concurred. Commissioner Sands asked if it would be possible to place a cul-de- sac in both places. City Engineer O'Donnell stated that it is possible to design two cul-de-sacs without too many problems. There was general discussion regarding whether to put up barricades now or once tract has been built. City Engineer O'Donnell reminded Commission. that what is presented for approval tonight up to Pennsylvania Street on, and the rest of the tract is not under consideration. He noted that a cul-de-sac could be planed for the next approval, or the builder could agree to do it at the same time as the originally proposed cul-de-sac. There was discussion regarding placing a K-rail at the end of the street to see if the theory of slowing traffic down works. City Engineer O'Donnell noted that the people that live on Washington would have to go to Lincoln Street to exit their area. Chairman Wilsey concurred. There was general discussion in regardto people using a dirt road area and cutting across a vacant lot. City Engineer O'Donnell explained that the City would assume a large risk of liability if an obstruction were placed in the road. He stated that it is his recommendation not to place a barrier in the street. PAGE EIGHT -PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES -APRIL 7, 1999 Community Development Director Brady stated that once the tract comes back before the City, it would then be appropriate to look at another cul-de-sac at that time. He noted that it is appropriate to impose the cul-de-sac that has been recommended as well as the choker at Dijon. He explained that when the other part of the tract develops, then staff would have the opportunity to take a look at a cul- de-sac at that location. Chairman Wilsey stated that staff could also address speed control devices on Terra Cotta and increased police patrol as well as a fizrther traffic analysis. Commissioner Sands asked if it would be appropriate to place a three way stop sign at Terra Cotta and Sinclair. Community Development Director Brady stated that the Engineering staff does not recommend that action at this time. Chairman Wilsey stated his concern regarding phasing and he further stated that if the City is going to require a cul-de-sac he has a concern regarding the construction traffic. He stated that the home on California should be the first to be completed to prevent traffic problems caused by construction. City Engineer O'Donnell presented a revision of Condition No. 44. Mr. Finley questioned the need to build the whole block and noted that people do not like to live next to model homes due to the traffic. There was general discussion regarding the safety issues regarding construction traffic and obstructions on Washington and California Streets.. Commissioner Barnes stated that Mr. Finley's company would not be able to store any building equipment or materials on the street. iVlr. Finley stated that he did not have a problem with the situation. City Engineer O'Donnell clarified the requirements for conditions. Mr. Finley reminded the Commission that the developer is picking up the tab for a condition that was created before he came on the scene. He stressed that they are willing to put the cul-de-sac in, however he further stressed that his firm did not create the problem. MOVED BY SANDS, SECONDED BY BARNES AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT WITH ONE ABSENT AND ONE VACANCY TO APPROVE MINOR DESIGN REVIEW FOR RESIDENTIAL PROJECT. N0.99-2 FOR THE MODEL HOME COMPLEX, PHASING PLAN AND THE PHASE ONE, TWENTY (20) PAGE NINE -PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES -APRIL 7, 1999 LOT SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT BASED ON THE FINDINGS, EXHIBIT AND CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL ATTACHED TO THE. STAFF REPORT WITH. THE FOLLOWING AMENDMENTS TO CONDITION NOS. 13, 44, 45, 60 AND ADDITION OF CONDITION N0.61: 13. All windows larger than one foot{1') by one foot (1') on all side and rear elevations visible from the right-of--way, with the exceptions of those windows already utilizing treatments such as ledges or mullions such incorporate stucco surrounds and/or mullions. 44. Applicant shall double cul-de-sac Washington Street between California Street and Nebraska Street, prior to the completion of the model complex, subject to the approval of the City Engineer. California Street shall be completed and capped from Washington Street to Saint Claire Avenue at completion of the model complex. California Street shall be opened to traffic at the completion of the model complex. California Street shall be opened to traffic at the completion of the model complex. Full utilities shall be brought to Lots 1, 2, 3, and 4 of Block 45 prior to Model Complex approval. A Traffic calming devise shall be installed on Dijon Street at Washington Street to restrict southbound traffic on Dijon Street at completion of the model complex, subject to the approval of the City Engineer. 45. Construction Traffic shall be prohibited from using Torn Ranch Road, Terra Cotta Road, North Lake Drive, or Mariner's Way to access the construction of Residential Project 99-2. Construction traffic may access the Torn Ranch project from California Street via Grand Avenue. 60. Applicant shall record CC & R's for the tract prohibiting on-street storage of boats, motorhomes, trailer, and trucks over one-ton capacity, roof mounted or front yard microwave satellite antennas. The CC & R's shall be approved by the Community Development Director prior to building permits. 61. No construction equipment or construction material shall be stored or parked on California Street. after completion of the Model Complex or any time during construction of the Torn Ranch project. PAGE TEN -PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES -APRIL 7,1999 THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING RECESSED AT 8:25 P.M. THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING RECONVENED AT 8:35 P.M. THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING ADJOURNED TO THE DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE MEETING AT 8:35 P.M. THE PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING RECONVENED AT 8:40 P.M. STAFF COMMENTS None PLANNING COMMISSIONER'S COMMENTS Commissioner Barnes stated that he would like to recommend that City Council review more thoroughly the traffic situation on Washington Street and Terra Cotta Road and the other streets in that area. Chairman Wilsey stated that he would like the Engineering Department to take their ideas of Traffic Control Devices to Council for consideration to control the speeding problems in that area. He indicated that in the interim he would like to see staff coordinate with Police Service to step up the enforcement in the Washington Street/Terra Cotta Street area. Chairman Wilsey asked City Engineer to explain why he does not recommend speed humps. City Engineer O'Donnell stated that he has read literature in regard to the speed humps as well as the fact that the emergency service providers for the City object to the danger that they present to their vehicles and personnel while responding to emergencies as well as an increase in serious general liability. ADJOURNMENT MOVED BY SANDS, SECONDED BY BARNES AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT WITH ONE ABSENT AND ON VACANCY TO ADJOURN THE REGULAR PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING AT 8:4" °'" PAGE ELEVEN -PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES -APRIL 7, 1999 Respectfully submitted, f ` ~~~~/~° , Adria L. Bryning, Depu City CI k ATTE T: ~ • ~` Robert A. E Planning C ~y, Secretary to the mission MINUTES PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING May 5,1999 The Planning Commission was called to order at 7:00 p.m. by Community Development Director Brady. The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Commissioner Polk. ROLL CALL PRESENT: COMMISSIONERS: SANDS, BARNES, POLK, AND MATTHIES ABSENT: COMMISSIONER: WILSEY Also present were: Community Development Director Brady, Assistant Planner Miller, Deputy City Clerk Bryning, and Community Development Secretary Hennings. Community Development Director Brady announced that he would be Acting Chairman tonight as Wilsey is absent and there is no Vice Chairman at this time. OATH OF OFFICE -ROBERT POLK Deputy City Clerk Bryning gave the Oath of Office to Commissioner Polk. APPOINT VICE CHAIRMAN MOVED BY SANDS TO NOMINATE BARNES FOR PLANNING COMMISSION VICE CHAIRMAN. MOTION FAILED DUE TO NO SECOND. MOVED BY BARNES TO NOMINATE MATTHIES FOR PLANNING COMMISSION VICE CHAIRMAN. MOTION FAILED DUE TO NO SECOND. MOVED BY MATTHIES TO NOMINATE SANDS FOR PLANNING COMMISSION VICE CHAIRMAN. MOTION FAILED DUE TO NO SECOND. MOVED BY BARNES, SECONDED BY SANDS AND CARRIED BY A UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO CONTINUE THE NOMINATION OF VICE CHAIRMAN TO THE MAY 19, 1999 PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING. PUBLIC COMMENTS There being no request to speak, the Public Comments section was closed. CONSENT CALENDAR The minutes from the Planning Commission Regular Meeting of Apri17, 1999 was pulled from the consent calendar and continued until the next meeting as there was not a quorum to vote on this item. MOVED BY SANDS, SECONDED BY BARNES AND CARRIED BY A 3-4 VOTE WITH POLK ABSTAINING TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR. Minutes a. Planning Commission Regular Meeting of March 31, 1999 PAGE 2 -PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES -MAY 5, 1999 PUBLIC HEARINGS None. BUSINESS ITEMS 2. Develonment Status Report Community Development Director Brady indicated that staff put together a report showing the status of all projects since August 1998 to the present. He gave an overview of the report. He stated that there are currently ten residential developments being built by seven different builders. The average price of a single family home is between $180,000 to $190,000 with the average size of 2,400 square feet. Community Development Director Brady noted that there have been five commercial developments approved during that same time including a Ford Auto Dealership. Finally, he indicated that there has been five industrial developments approved totaling approximately a quarter million square feet. He indicated that staff is excited as this is the first year in recent history that there has been any industrial development in the City. Commissioner Barnes asked if there has been any activity with Cottonwood Hills. Community Development Director Brady indicated that they are in the process of reducing the total density. He stated there is a Tract Map- filed with the City and the developer may amend the Specific Plan. Commissioner Sands asked for the status of Ramsgate. Community Development Director Brady indicated that Ramsgate is revising the plans and reducing the total density. He stated they will also be filing an amendment to the Specific Plan and Tract Map. Commissioner Polk asked if there is a City Zoning Map. Community Development Director Brady indicated that staff is currently in the final stages of completing a color zoning map utilizing the GIS system. He indicated that a color copy will be provided to the Commissioners once it is complete. Commissioner Barnes inquired about the application that staff received for another church. Community Development Director Brady indicated that the applicant is looking at a site in the Summerhill Specific Plan on Railroad Canyon. Commissioner Barnes stated that there is a serious traffic problem on Railroad Canyon. Community Development Director Brady indicated that staff is aware of the problem and is looking at possible ways to reduce the congestion. The Commissioners thanked staff for putting together the status report. ADJOURNED TO DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE The Planning Commission adjourned to the Design Review Committee at 7:20 p.m. The Planning Commission reconvened at 7:31 p.m. INFORMATIONAL STAFF COMMENTS Community Development Director Brady indicated that he was glad to have had the opportunity to participate in Student Government Day. He stated that there will be an EDC luncheon at Diamond Stadium and the Commissioners are welcome to attend. PAGE 3 -PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES -MAY 5, 1999 PLANNING COMMISSIONER'S COMMENTS Commissioner Matthies -Commented on the Followine: Commissioner Matthies welcomed Commissioner Polk. She also indicated that she was happy to see new businesses on Main Street. Commissioner Barnes -Commented on the Followine: Commissioner Barnes stated that tonight's report shows a turn around in the economy. He indicated that this is encouraging and welcome. Commissioner Sands -Commented on the Followine: Commissioner Sands indicated that staff will be looking in the possibility of having three persons on the Abatement Committee. Commissioner Sands welcomed Polk to the Commission. ADJOURNMENT MOVED BY SANDS, SECONDED BY BARNES AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO ADJOURN THE REGULAR PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING AT 7:35 P.M. ROBERT A. B Y, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CTOR AND ACTING CHAIRMAN Respectfully Submitted ~~~~ ~ / , nika Hennings, ommunity Development Secretary ATTEST: /~~ t ,Gtr /!~C-~~~ ~'~~ _ Linda M. Miller, Acting Secretary to the Planning Commission MINUTES PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING May 19,1999 The Regular Planning Commission Meeting was called to order at 7:05 p.m. by Chairman Wilsey. The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Commissioner Polk. ROLL CALL PRESENT: COMMISSIONERS: WILSEY, SANDS, BARNES, POLK, AND MATTHIES ABSENT: COMMISSIONER: Also present were: Community Development Director Brady, Senior Planner Villa, Assistant Planner Miller, City Engineer O'Donnell, and Community Development Secretary Hennings. APPOINT VICE CHAIRMAN MOVED BY SANDS, SECONDED BY MATTHIES AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO NOMINATE BARNES AS PLANNING COMMISSION VICE CHAIRMAN. PUBLIC COMMENTS There being no request to speak, the Public Comments section was closed. CONSENT CALENDAR MOVED BY SANDS, SECONDED BY BARNES AND CARRIED BY A 4-5 VOTE, WITH MATTHIES AND POLK ABSTAINING FROM THE VOTE ON THE MINUTES FROM APRIL 7,1999 AND WILSEY ABSTAINING FROM THE VOTE ON THE MINUTES FROM MAY 5,1999, TO APPROVE THE CONSENT Minutes a. Planning Commission Regular Meeting of Apri17, 1999 b. Planning Commission Regular Meeting of May 5, 1999 PUBLIC HEARINGS 2. Variance No. 99-6 for a Freeway Identification Sign for "Weinerschnitzel and Jif , Lube" and approval of a Sign Program for Commercial Project No. 98-5 located at 301 and 311 Summerhill Drive - APN 363-100-081 Community Development Director Brady indicated this was an application for a variance to the sign regulations for the freeway identification sign for the previously approved "Weinerschnitzel and Jiffy Lube" facility on Summerhill Drive. He indicated that this was before the Planning Commission in April and at that time the Commissioners pulled the request for the freeway sign for further review. He asked Assistant Planner Miller to review the project with the Planning Commission. Assistant Planner Miller indicated that the applicant was required to provide a sight distance and size analysis which is shown as Exhibit 'A' of the staff report. She indicated the applicant also provided Exhibit 'B' showing other freeway and freeway type signs in support of his request. Assistant Planner Miller indicated the other signs presented for approval are the four wall signs for the Weinerschnitzel building. She indicated that these four signs are incompliance with LEMC. PAGE 2 -PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES -MAY 19, 1999 Assistant Planner Miller stated that the question is whether to allow the oversized freeway sign which, if approved, would require a variance. She noted that at this time staff can not make a finding to approve a variance. Assistant Planner Miller indicated that she is aware that other oversized freeway signs have been approved in the past. She noted, however, that just because oversized signs have been approved in the past, this is not a reason to continue to approve these signs. Assistant Planner Miller indicated that staff feels the use of a variance has been overused. She read the definition of "variance" as found in Section 17.02.2130 in the LEMC. She indicated that staff does not feel these circumstances fall within the stated definition. Assistant Planner Miller indicated that staff realizes business owners believe that larger signs bring in more business, however, staff feels that the 95 square foot sign that would be allowed has more than equal visibility of the existing KFC and In and Out Burger signs which are both approximately 80 square feet. She noted that although the signs in the photograph may not appear to be equal in size, in reality they are both approximately 80 square feet. Assistant Planner Miller stated that staff is recommending the Planning Commission approve the south and east elevation wall signs that are incompliance with the LEMC and deny the request for Variance No. 99-6 for a freeway identification sign and approve a 95 square foot identification sign based on the findings, exhibits, and conditions of approval. Chairman Wilsey opened the public hearing at 7:10 pm. Wayne Dial, 4605 E. Mills Circle, Ontario Mills, California, indicated he is the CEO of D&W Restaurants which is the developer of the Weinerschnitzel, Jiffy Lube, Hungry Howie's Pizza, and Golden Spoon. He stated that in rebuttal to the staff report he feels that some consideration should be given to the fact that there are two businesses located on the property in question. Mr. Dial noted that freeway signage is an attractant to bring people, and thus more taxes, into the city. He indicated that a 95 square foot sign would only allow approximately 45 square feet per business and that there is no sign along the freeway that is less than approximately 75 square feet. He also indicated that this will be the last commercial business in that vicinity. Mr. Dial stated that the vacant property is currently a blight along the freeway and that he hoped to bring a pleasant look to this area. He noted that Lake Elsinore is a very beautiful City and in no way wants to detract from the view along the hillsides behind this property. Mr. Dial stated that advertising can not be measured. He stated he would like to request approval of at least the 110 square foot sign that was previously recommended. Mr. Dial thanked the City Council, Planning Commission, and staff for the help he has received in the past. Mr. Corey Northcott, 303 W. Main Street, Ontario, California, indicated he represents Ontario Neon Company. He read a sentence from the staff report, "Staff feels that Exhibit 'A' illustrates that both the In & Out and KFC's signs are easily readable at eighty (80) square feet." Mr. Northcott indicated that he agrees with this statement, however, he stated that at half that size the signs would no longer be readable. He indicated that the proposed 150 square feet sign only allows 75 square feet per use which is less than either of the direct neighbors. He read further from the staff report, "Staff believes that the formula for determining the area of Freeway Signs is sufficient and reasonable and should be adhered to more consistently." Mr. Northcott indicated that if that was the case the matrix on page three of the staff report should only have a 38.5 square foot sign. Mr. Northcott stated that they are here tonight to ask for the same size sign that everyone else has along the same freeway corridor. He read the next sentence in the paragraph, "If the Planning Commission finds that the current Sign Ordinance is deficient, it may consider revising the Sign Ordinance specific to the size of Freeway Identification Signs allowed." He indicated that this is the whole reason why they are here tonight. He indicated that the Matrix on page 3 suggests that the Sign Ordinance is deficient. He indicated that the Sign Ordinance is further deficient because there is no mechanism to deal with dual buildings on the same parcel. He sated that they want to be good neighbors but also want to be treated equal. PAGE 3 -PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES -MAY 19, 1999 There being no further requests to speak, Chairman Wilsey closed the public hearing at 7:19 pm. Commissioner Matthies stated that Mr. Northcott had a good point when mentioning that the ordinance does not address dual businesses on the same parcel. She further stated that in looking at the signs in Exhibit 'A', there is no way that both the KFC and In and Out Burger signs can be 80 square feet. Commissioner Matthies indicated that based on the photograph, she does not have a problem with the 150 square foot sign at this time. Commissioner Matthies also requested that the double starred note below the matrix on page 3 be clarified. Commissioner Sands indicated he feels that at some time the decision needs to be made to slow down the cluttering. He stated that the reduction in the size of the freeway sign would be a start in the right direction, however he would like to see the original increase of 15% restored. He also noted that he would recommend approval of the wall signs. Commissioner Polk asked if this was a standard size sign. Mr. Northcott indicated that this is not a standard size as it is a dual use sign. Mr. Northcott also made one last note that if the parcel was split in two to allow one use per lot, then each use would be allowed 45 square feet of signage. He indicated that in his opinion one larger sign is better and is less clutter than two smaller signs. Commissioner Polk indicated that he went out to the sites of all businesses mentioned in the matrix. He stated that the brand name Weinerschnitzel and the brand name Jiffy Lube is very well recognized and thus the name alone will attract customers. Based on this, he would recommend denial of the variance but perhaps recommend approval of a 15% increase. Commissioner Barnes clarified that the 150 square feet was on both sides of the sign. Community Development Director Brady concurred. Chairman Wilsey indicated that as a local businessman he understands that every business wants to get as much signage as possible. He indicated that the Planning Commission has dealt with this issue for a number of years and has always tried to be as helpful to the business community as possible. He indicated that the community is trying to refrain from having a "sea of signs" along the freeway. He said that personally he does not agree with 150 square feet as requested. He stated he would like the sign to be 95 square feet to maintain consistency in the area. MOVED BY SANDS, SECONDED BY POLK AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO APPROVE A VARIANCE FORA 15% INCREASE OVER THE ALLOWED SQUARE FOOTAGE FOR THE FREEWAY IDENTIFICATION SIGN AND APPROVE THE WALL SIGNS FOR THE WEINERSCHNITZEL BASED ON THE FINDINGS, EXHIBITS, AND CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL. Chairman Wilsey indicated that staff may need to review the Sign Ordinance. Community Development Director Brady indicated that this is one of the Goals & Objectives. He indicated that if any changes were suggested, they would first need to be approved by the City Council. 3. Zone Chanee No. 99-1 and Conditional Use Permit No. 99-6 "Pacific Crematorium" at 601 Crane Street Suite `D' Community Development Director Brady indicated that this is an application for a Zone Change from a C-1 zone designation to an M-1 zone designation. He stated that along with this request is a request for a Conditional Use Permit to allow a crematorium use in the M-1 zone. He further noted that the Conditional Use Permit would be subject to the Zone Change being approved by the City Council. He asked that Senior Planner Villa review the project with the Planning Commission. Senior Planner Villa stated that the proposal is to relocate an existing crematorium business to a new building that is currently being constructed within the same industrial complex. He noted the industrial complex is located at the corner of PAGE 4 -PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES -MAY 19, 1999 Collier Avenue and Central Avenue and has split zoning, allowing C-M zoning on the easterly parcels and M-1 to the remaining half. Senior Planner Villa indicated that the existing crematorium is in the M-1 zone. He noted the proposal is to change an adjacent parcel to the M-1 zone, which would just move the M-1 zoning boundary to include the new parcel. Senior Planner Villa indicated that in the past the Planning Commission determined that a crematorium would be an allowed use within the M-1 zone subject to a Conditional Use Permit. Senior Planner Villa indicated that staff has analyzed the project as proposed and has determined the project acceptable as it is just a relocation within the same business park with no increase in use or any increase impact on the surrounding businesses. Senior Planner Villa indicated that staff recommends the Planning Commission recommend to the City Council and Redevelopment Agency approval of Zone Change No. 99-1, with adoption of Negative Declaration 99-2, and also recommends the Planning Commission approve Conditional Use Permit 99-6, with the adoption of Resolution 99-3 which finds the crematorium uses consistent with the M-1 zone subject to a Conditional Use Permit based on the exhibits, findings, and the proposed Conditionals of Approval. Senior Planner Villa indicated that he would like to make a few corrections to the proposed Conditions of Approval. He requested that the first sentence of Condition #5 be changed to read "...10 people at any one time, employees excluded." He also requested that a Condition #12 be added which would read "Approval of this Conditional Use Permit shall be subject to approval of Zone Change No. 99-1 by the City Council and Redevelopment Agency. Chairman Wilsey opened the public hearing at 7:40 pm. Michael Brown, 37421 Cole Creek Ct., Mumeta, California, indicated he is the President of Pacific Crematorium Incorporated and Pacific Crematorium Care Incorporated. He indicated that they have been located at the existing facility since 1991. He noted that the staff report is a complete picture of what is being proposed. Mr. Brown indicated that they will be moving from a 3,200 square foot facility to a 6,000 square foot facility. He noted the reason for the expansion is for administrative purposes and is in no way meant to increase the amount of equipment and that actually the long range goal is to reduce the amount of equipment. Mr. Brown stated that since 1991, his company has been one of the largest providers in the Western United States for the coroner's office, the public administrator's office, and for the North American agencies that deal with cadaver specimens and that they are only one of a few venues for this specific venues. He stated that he has enjoyed being a part of the community since 1991. There being no further comments from the public, Chairman Wilsey closed the public hearing at 7:44 pm. Commissioner Sands asked how long a typical procedure takes. Mr. Brown indicated that it vanes but the average is 1 1/2 hours. Commissioner Sands asked how long it takes for the black smoke to dispel into the atmosphere. Mr. Brown stated that any black smoke that is seen comes from the packaging or container not from any organic matter and that the black smoke dispels quite rapidly and is odorless He indicated that they are strictly regulated from the South Coast Air Quality Management District and indicated there are charts on each piece of equipment that monitors the activity and associated air quality. Commissioner Sands asked if there is any particular time of day that the machines operate. Mr. Brown indicated the proceduers can take place anywhere from 8 am to 8 pm. He indicated that Pacific Crematorium Incorporated processes approximately 300 cases per month. He again indicated that he would like to downsize and concentrate on the contracts with the coroners and public administrator's offices. He further noted that Pacific Crematorium Care Incorporated deals with the families directly and sees approximately 20 to 30 cases per month. Commissioner Barnes asked if the visual stack monitors are part of the requirements of SCAQMD or if it was an internal control. Mr. Brown indicated that the cameras which are mounted on the roof are voluntary and help with internal control so that they can see what PAGE 5 -PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES -MAY 19, 1999 it happening outside of the building with the stacks. He indicated that the equipment will be moved to the new building as it stands and thus the monitoring system will be moved also. Commissioner Barnes asked if staff could elaborate on what Mr. Schofield's, Banana Boat, complaint was regarding Pacific Crematorium. Community Development Director Brady indicated that he talked to Mr. Schofield and that Mr. Schofield was originally in opposition to this type of facility in the Business Park. Community Development Director Brady further indicated that Mr. Schofield was not aware that this business was already in the area and was just relocating. Commissioner Barnes asked if there have been any further complaints. Community Development Director Brady indicated that he is not aware of any complaints. Chairman Wilsey indicated that the only complaints in the past few years have been psychological in nature based on the perception of this type of facility. Commissioner Polk asked if there will be any signs identifying the business. Mr. Brown indicated that they would like to stay unobtrusive, although he indicated that he would like to leave the option of a small sign open for the future so that families can more easily find the business. Commissioner Polk asked what kind of traffic he may anticipate. Mr. Brown indicated that Pacific Crematorium Incorporated will see only employee traffic, as they do not deal with the general public He indicated that Pacific Crematorium Care Incorporated wills see 20 to 30 families per month and is holding firm to no more than 10 family members at each procedure. Mr. Brown stated that if someone walked into the building, they would be hard pressed to identify the type ofbusiness they are since the lobby area has fish tanks and the rear of the building is very clinical looking. He further stated that all vehicles are unmarked. Mr. Brown stated he really wants to stay unobtrusive to keep the emotions down. Commissioner Polk asked why the facility is not located near a cemetery. Mr. Brown stated that historically crematoriums are located near cemeteries. He reiterated that this project is one of a kind in that the main business is with public agencies. Mr. Brown stated he had other oppommities in other cities but would like to continue the relationship he has with the City of Lake Elsinore. Commissioner Matthies indicated all of her questions have been answered. Chairman Wilsey has been aware of this facility since originally approved. He stated the business has been monitored over the years and that the business has been well regarded in the community. He said he is in favor of the project. MOVED BY MATTHIES, SECONDED BY SANDS AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO RECOMMEND TO THE CITY COUNCIL AND REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY APPROVAL OF ZONE CHANGE N0.99-1 AND ADOPT NEGATIVE DECLARATION NO. 99-2 WITH THE CHANGES TO CONDITION #5 AND ADDITION OF CONDITION #12 AND APPROVE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT N0.99-6 AND ADOPT RESOLUTION NO. 99-3 BASED ON THE EXHIBITS, FINDINGS, AND CONDITIONS. 4. Conditional Use Permit No. 99-7 for Canvon Hills Community Church Pre-School & Child Care Center Located at 30001 Riverside Drive - APN 378-158-009 Community Development Director Brady indicated that this is a request for a Conditional Use Permit to open apreschool /day care center on Riverside Drive. He requested that Assistant Planner Miller review the project. Assistant Planner Miller first stated she had some corrections to the staff report. She stated that on page 3, the fourth sentence under "Richards Street" should read "Therefore, forty (40) trips of "dropping off & picking up" could occur twice a day for a total of one hundred and seventy four (174)." She indicated that on page 5, the first sentence in the second paragraph under "Extending Use for Church Activities" should read "...Staff concludes that since child care centers are only "conditionally" permitted uses in the R-3 zone, the additional uses of church related activities..." Assistant Planner Miller stated she would like to withdraw Condition #14 completely based on the responses received from the neighbors. And finally, she noted she PAGE 6 -PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES -MAY 19, 1999 would like to correct the first sentence in Condition #24 to read "The applicant shall prepare a Traffic Study by a registered professional to analyze..." Assistant Planner Miller indicated that this site has operated as a daycare center /preschool on and off since 1985, however the use has been discontinued since 1996. She indicated that there is a converted 1,950 square foot residence with a lawn and patio and a small parking lot. She stated the parking lot provides spaces for 10 cars plus one handicap space and that the structure and grounds are in need of maintenance. Assistant Planner Miller indicated that although the facility has been licensed for 45 children, the parking dictates that only 40 children plus 7 staffbe allowed. She stated the applicant has also requested that the site be used in the evenings and on weekends for church related activities, although staff has rescinded the condition which would allow this use. Assistant Planner Miller indicated the major concerns of the project as traffic safety and large quantities of dust created by the traffic. She stated that staff is questioning the safety of bringing their small children and making left toms from Riverside Drive and right turns from Richards Street. She indicated the posted speed limit is 45 mph but has noticed that most cars are going much faster. Assistant Planner Miller indicated that staff is requesting the applicant provide a traffic study to determine if the access to the project is safe. Assistant Planner Miller indicated the second area of concern is the dust. She noted that the two adjacent neighbors have indicated the dust has caused them to have medical problems. She stated that these neighbors have previously requested that the City pave Richards Street, however, the City does not have the necessary funds. Assistant Planner Miller indicated that staff is requesting the applicant pave Richazds Street from Riverside Drive to the schools northerly driveway with an interim paving of one-tenth of a foot thick. Assistant Planner Miller indicated that the existing fencing and walls surrounding the property is another issue. She noted that when a commercial use is adjacent to a residential use, a six foot block wall is required to protect the residents from the noise and allow for privacy. She stated that currently the walls and fencing around the project are of different heights and materials. Assistant Planner Miller indicated that staff is recommending that the applicant provide a continuous six foot block wall around the perimeter of the site with the exception that the northwest boundary be an eight foot block wall so that the neighboring properties are protected. Assistant Planner Miller indicated that at this time staff can not fmd the project as proposed will not be detrimental to the health, safety, and welfare of those involved and therefore staff is recommending the Planning Commission continue the project until a traffic study is completed. Chairman Wilsey opened the public hearing at 8:07 pm. Pastor Bill Ketts, 121 South Torn Ranch Road, Lake Elsinore, indicated he is the senior pastor of Canyon Hills Community Church. Mr. Ketts indicated that he, as the representative of Canyon Hills Community church, is asking the Planning Commission to allow this usage as it has been allowed in the past. He noted that he and the congregation understand the concerns of the community, however as the church only has a congregation of 100, which meets in an elementary school in Horse Thief Canyon Ranch, it will be a challenge to comply with the conditions. Pastor Ketts did indicated that the church is committed and will do anything necessary to meet the requirements. However, Pastor Ketts asked the Planning Commission to review the conditions and determine if the applicant could complete some conditions over time, and after they occupy the building, in order to help with finances. Ms. Jody Crawford, 17359 Shrier Drive, Lake Elsinore, indicated that she is opposed to this request. She noted that the azea has become much more dangerous over the past few years and many accidents have occurred which does not make it a safe place for a preschool. She further stated that the dust is hard on the children. Ms. Crawford said she is afraid that the church may violate the conditions set by the City as they have no other place to meet. She PAGE 7 -PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES -MAY 19, 1999 stated that the neighbors want their privacy and requested that if the project gets approved the Planning Commission require the majority of the Conditions be met prior to occupancy. Ms. Crawford mentioned that she can see into the windows and doors of the building and requests that an eight foot block wall be built between the properties. She also requested that there is as much pavement as possible, as the traffic causes incredible amounts of dust. Chairman Wilsey asked Ms. Crawford how long she has lived at her address. Ms. Crawford said she has lived there since 1987. Ms. Elena Ray, 17380 Shrier Drive, stated that she has concerns about the safety of the children as the frontage of the preschool is on Riverside Drive. She indicated that she has submitted pictures along with an accident report which states that there have been three accidents in that area, with one car going through the block wall of the preschool. Ms. Ray noted that the neighbors have signed a petition asking that all city codes be met prior to occupancy and further noted that the neighbors are against any activities at night. Ms. Ray also asked what will keep parents from using Shrier or any of the other adjoining streets. She said the extra traffic delays the residents in the area from being able to turn onto Riverside Drive in the mornings as they are trying to get to work. Ms. Ray said that she is happy that staff is asking that Richards be paved, but she would also like to see Shrier paned as it is an easier and safer route for parents and many will use this route. Mr. Johnny Ray, 17380 Shrier Drive, indicated he would like to submit photos that support the report that he submitted to the Planning Commission. He said the preschool will have a tremendous impact on the neighborhood with a probable increase in accidents. He also stated that Shrier needs to be paned as parents will use this as an additional route. Mr. Ray indicated that exhibits submitted by the applicant are not accurate and that the Planning Commission should think twice about approving the project as they are being misled. Mr. Tim Maltby, owner of the property, indicated that there has never been an accident caused by the school and there has never been a child hurt or a client's car damaged. He said Caltrans did not have a problem in the past and even indicated that no changes were to be made to Riverside Drive. He noted that all the roads are dirt and the dust is present whether the school is open or not. He said that he understands the applicant is still willing to pave as long as they are given the time needed. Mr. Maltby also stated that he received a letter from the City indicating that someone was in the building until 10:00 pm. He said that to his knowledge this has never happened, as the building has been vacant since May 1997. He indicated he hoped the project would be approved, as it would be good for the community. Ms. Ray indicated the applicant was at the site on May 8 from 6:45 pm to 9:45 pm. She said this was in addition to the times the City approved the applicant to be on the property to clean the site. Mr. Ray indicated he heard them on that Tuesday talk about getting 18 cars in the parking lot. Mr. Ray indicated he was also uncomfortable with overhearing their hourly prayer meetings and reinforced that more privacy is needed. There being no further comments, Chairman Wilsey closed the public hearing at 8:23 pm. Commissioner Polk asked if the required block wall in the back would be in addition to what is existing. Assistant Planner Miller said the block wall would be eight feet total. Commissioner Polk indicated he has spent some time reading the traffic reports for the area and has also visited the area during different times of the day. He indicated that Gunnerson maybe the preferred route as it was the easier route to take. He said he is concerned that people will get agitated with having to wait for the traffic and become careless. He said that more pavement in the area may be needed. Commissioner Polk noted that any additional uses by the church should be confined to another location. Commissioner Sands asked Pastor Ketts if the church plans on moving to this location. Pastor Ketts said the only reason that the other possible uses were added to the Conditional Use Permit is because he understood that any future possible uses needs to be approved at the same time as the Conditional Use Permit. He said the church is much too large to meet PAGE 8 -PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES -MAY 19, 1999 at the subject property for services. Pastor Ketts indicated that he has actually been at the property twice. He indicated that the reason for these meetings were to look over the property to determine what would be needed to bring it up to code. He said he did not ask permission form the City for these meetings because he thought it was common practice to look at a piece of property before putting in an application. Pastor Ketts stated there have not been any congregation meetings held at the property. Commissioner Sands indicated that the trash enclosures do not meet code and feels the parking lot is quite crowded. He stated he is not comfortable with the fact that Richards and Shrier will not be paved in a reasonable time. He further indicated that he would not be in favor of evening activities. Commissioner Sands noted that there have been a number of letters that were received tonight that the Planning Commission has not had the opportunity to review, and for this reason he would recommend a continuance so staff can obtain a traffic study from the applicant and then bring the project back to the Planning Commission. Commissioner Barnes indicated he has an objection to Condition #27. He said requiring the applicant to pave the street is an unconscionable request as Richards Street is a public street and the City should have paved the street a while back. He further stated that he would agree with Commissioner Sands and request a continuance so that a traffic study may be completed. Commissioner Matthies indicated that no matter where you live there will be accidents however children should be shielded from this danger as much as possible. She said the best solution would be if in the future the church find a location that would support both the church and school. She also indicated that she agrees with Commissioner Barnes in that the applicant should not be required to pave a road that is used by everyone else in the area. Commissioner Matthies said she would like to see a traffic study as the Planning Commission can not make a decision based on the information presented tonight. She indicated she is happy to see that the applicant is agreeable to the removal of Condition #14. Chairman Wilsey stated this is the third Conditional Use Permit that he has seen for this facility. He noted he supported the first two permits but based on the changes in the community and to Riverside Drive he can not support the project at this time. He indicated that previously the Planning Commission has asked Mr. Maltby to work with the neighbors to come up with some kind of solution regarding the dust but nothing ever happened. Chairman Wilsey said his major concern at this time is the increased traffic. He said he personally was almost involved in an accident yesterday because of a car that was trying to turn onto Shrier. He said that because of these concerns, he reluctantly can not support this project at this time. MOVED BY BARNES, SECONDED BY SANDS AND CARRIED BY A 3-2 VOTE WITH WILSEY AND POLK CASTING THE DESCENDING VOTE TO CONTINUE THIS APPLICATION TO A FUTURE MEETING UNTIL AFTER A TRAFFIC STUDY IS COMPLETED. Pastor Ketts indicated that because they are a small church with limited resources, he would like to know if the expenditure for the traffic study will be an expenditure that is warranted based on the situation. He said he has received a quote of $5,000-$8,000 dollars for a traffic study and because of the large sum of money already put out, he would like some assurance that he is being a good steward of the church's money. Chairman Wilsey indicated that he and Commissioner Polk have real concerns about the ingress and egress of the property. He suggested that the Pastor talk with City Engineer O'Donnell or Community Development Director Brady about other possible avenues regarding the traffic study. Community Development Director Brady indicated that since this project will be continued to an unspecified date, it will be noticed again once the information is received. PAGE 9 -PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES -MAY 19, 1999 BUSINESS ITEMS Design Review of Industrial Project No. I 99-3 and Conditional Use Permit No 99-3 for 561 Birch Street - APN 377-151-037 Community Development Director Brady indicated this is a design review for an industrial building 8,160 square feet in size. He mentioned that this is another example of the increase in industrial activity within the city. Community Development Director Brady asked that Assistant Planner Miller review the project. Assistant Planner Miller indicated that she would like to add the following sentence to Condition #10: "No materials shall be stored higher than six (6) feet." Assistant Planner Miller indicated that the project is located on Birch Street in the Warm Spring Industrial Park. She noted this will be a masonry building with 4,556 square feet of office space and 3,550 square foot warehouse. The rear of the property will be used for storage of concrete blocks and assorted building materials. Assistant Planner Miller indicated that staff found the project in compliance with the LEMC and recommends that the Planning Commission approve the project subject to the findings, exhibits, and conditions of approval. Mr. Tom Daniel, 3120 Indian Avenue, Perris, indicated he is the owner and president of JBC Concrete and Masonry which is a mid-size concrete and masonry subcontractor with 120 field employees and 14 office staff. He stated that they have worked on projects in the local area and is also licensed in Nevada, Arizona, and Oregon. Mr. Daniel indicated that he likes the area and is excited about relocating to the community. Commissioner Barnes asked what will be stored outside of the warehouse. Mr. Daniel said that there will be no storage of purchased materials for individual jobs as those materials are always delivered directly to the site. He said what will be stored is masonry plank, scaffolding, a tractor, and other miscellaneous equipment. He said that between the eight foot wall up front and the surrounding businesses that abut the property, there will be limited visibility of the storage yard. He said his goal is to keep the yard empty so that he knows the equipment is out on a job making money. He said tools and equipment will be stored inside the warehouse and that decision is subject to the weather. Commissioner Sands, Polk and Matthies all agreed that the plans look good and are excited about the project. Commissioner Matthies asked ifhe has any concerns over the change in Condition #10. Mr. Daniel indicated that he did not. Commissioner Barnes asked if six foot block walls will be good enough for security. Mr. Daniel stated that with the surrounding buildings and grading necessary he believes he will be protected with any visual impacts. Commissioner Matthies clarified the security issue. Mr. Daniel indicated that security is a difficult issue, but that he feels more secure with this site than at the previous site. MOVED BY MATTHIES, SECONDED BY BARNES AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO RECOMMEND TO THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL OF INDUSTRIAL PROJECT N0.99-3 AND APPROVE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 99-3 BASED ON THE FINDINGS, EXHIBITS, AND CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL. ADJOURNED TO DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE The Planning Commission adjourned to the Design Review Committee at 8:52 p.m. The Planning Commission reconvened at 8:53 p.m. INFORMATIONAL PAGE 10 -PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES -MAY 19, 1999 STAFF COMMENTS None. PLANNING COMMISSIONER'S COMMENTS Commissioner Matthies -Commented on the Followine: Commissioner Matthies congratulated Commissioner Barnes on his appointment to Vice Chairman. Commissioner Barnes -Commented on the Followine: Commissioner Barnes requested that staff have a progress report at the next meeting regarding Granite Homes and Cornerstone landscaping of Summerhill Drive. Commissioner Sands -Commented on the Followine: None. Chairman Wilsey -Commented on the Followine: Chairman Wilsey welcomed Commissioner Polk, as he was not present at the last meeting. ADJOURNMENT MOVED BY SANDS, SECONDED BY MATTHIES AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO ADJOURN THE REGULAR PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING AT 8:55 PM. Respectfully Submitted onika Hennings, Community Development Secretary ATTES Robevt A. Brady, Secretary to Planning Commission ~ MINUTES PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING June 2,1999 The Regular Planning Commission Meeting was called to order at 7:00 p.m. by Chairman Wilsey. The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Commissioner Matthies. ROLL CALL PRESENT: COMMISSIONERS: WILSEY, SANDS, BARNES, POLK, AND MATTHIES ABSENT: COMMISSIONER: NONE Also present were: Community Development Director Brady, Senior Planner Villa, Assistant Planner Miller, City Engineer O'Donnell, and Community Development Secretary Hennings. PUBLIC COMMENTS There being no request to speak, the Public Comments section was closed. CONSENT CALENDAR Community Development Director Brady indicated that there was a change to the minutes from May 19, 1999. On page five, the motion should reference Resolution No. 99-3, not Resolution No. 99-2. MOVED BY SANDS, SECONDED BY MATTHIES AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR WITH THE ABOVE MENTIONED CORRECTION. Minutes a. Planning Commission Regular Meeting of May 19, 1999 PUBLIC HEARINGS 2. Minor Design Review of a Wireless Pa i~ng Facility. Project No. 99-1 and Variance No. 99-4 for "PaeeNet" at 523 Minthorn - APN 377-350-004 Community Development Director Brady indicated this was an application for a minor design review and variance for a wireless paging facility. He asked Assistant Planner Miller to review the project with the Planning Commission. Assistant Planner Miller noted she would first like to make a few corrections to the staff report. She stated that on page 4, the last sent under recommendation should reference Exhibits 'A thru E'. She further noted that Condition #5 should be revised to read as follows: "All site improvements shall be constructed as indicated on the approved site plan, elevations, and engineered plans. Revisions to approved site plans, building elevations, or engineered plans shall be subject to the discretion of the Community Development Director or designee. All plans submitted for Building Division Plan Check shall conform with the submitted plans or as modified by Conditions of Approval, or the Planning Commission through subsequent action." Assistant Planner Miller noted this is a request for a wireless communication facility that is utilizing two existing towers and an existing vacant 450 square foot building. She indicated that the variance is from the maximum allowed height of 30 feet in an R-1 zone. She stated PAGE 2 -PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES -JUNE 2, 1999 that both towers are 45 feet in height. Assistant Planner Miller indicated that the City never approved the existing towers so before staff could proceed with the review, the applicant was required to submit structural engineering calculations and plans. Assistant Planner Miller noted that there was a question of whether the paging facility would require a Conditional Use Pemut, however as a paging facility is considered to be a "public utility distribution and transmission facility", which is a use allowed in the R-1 zone, it was determined that a Conditional Use Permit would not be required. Assistant Planner Miller stated that the existing towers, once approved, are allowed by the current policies and requirements of the Lake Elsinore Municipal Code (LEMC) and would offer an alternative to communication system in the City. She further indicated that staff feels the variance is justified due to the topography and landscaping constraints and to the height of the existing tower. Assistant Planner Miller indicated that staff recommends approval of Minor Design Review No. 99-1 and Variance No. 99-4 based on the Findings, Exhibits, and Conditions of Approval. Chairman Wilsey opened the Public Hearing at 7:04 pm. Pete Arthur, RCC Consultants, 3158 Redhill Ave #260, Costa Mesa, CA, 92626, stated he is representing PageNet and is here to answer any questions. He noted that the applicant is in agreement of all Conditions. Chad Smith, PageNet, also indicated he was available for any questions. There being no firther requests to speak, Chairman Wilsey closed the public hearing at 7:05 pm. Commissioner Polk noted he visited the existing facility. He indicated the concept looked good and that he had no problem with the existing towers. He stated the road was in terrible condition. He asked the applicant if there would be any need to have good access to the towers. Mr. Arthur indicated that it is an unmanned facility that would require maintenance at a maximum of once a month. Commissioner Barnes stated his concern is that the existing facility is unsightly, was constructed without approvals, and that the City is getting too many antennas within the City. He stated that the City needs to have guidelines for the future construction of these facilities. Commissioner Barnes indicated that he is against approving this project. Commissioner Sands stated his only concern is that the existing towers were constructed without permits. He stated that if the applicant is able to get the required approvals, than he would concur with staff. He further noted that he agrees that the topographical constraints justify the variance. Commissioner Matthies asked if there were plans to improve the road. Mr. Arthur stated the road is a private road for the residence. He stated there are no plans to improve the road as the technicians only require access a maximum of once a month and all have trucks. Commissioner Matthies asked staff for clarification on Condition #9. She indicated that the Condition requires the applicant to replace any flora removed on a ratio of 1:1. She asked if the applicant is required to replace all flora to equal size. Assistant Planner Miller indicated that a size is not put in the condition and the applicant is not planning on removing any flora. She did state that if any flora were removed, then staff would require the replacement to be of equivalent size. Commissioner Matthies further stated that she concurs with Commissioner Barnes and feels the City needs to adopt some guidelines for future use. She stated she understands the need for these antennae but feels there needs to be some guidelines in place. Assistant Planner Miller indicated that Senior Planner Villa has drafted some guidelines but that they have not yet been brought before the Planning Commission. Senior Planner Villa stated that an PAGE 3 -PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES -JUNE 2, 1999 ordinance has been drafted using the City of Riverside's ordinance as a guide. He stated that this could be brought before the Planning Commission in the next few months. Commissioner Polk noted that he feels the towers are in an excellent locations. Chairman Wilsey commented on Condition #12. He asked the applicant if the tower will be compatible with other communication operators. Mr. Chad Smith, RCC Consultants, 3158 Redhill Ave, #260, Costa Mesa, CA 92626, indicated that the site is owned by Mr. Manfi-edi who in turn leases the tower space and building to Prime Communications, who is a tower site manager. Mr. Smith stated that Prime Communications leases the tower space out to multiple carriers. He further indicated that Prime Communications promotes co-location as this is how Prime Communication makes their money. Mr. Smith stated that PageNet leases the tower space from Prime Communications. He said there is still space on the tower for several other users. Chairman Wilsey asked if the towers were constructed prior to annexation to the City. Mr. Smith indicated that Prime Communications built the towers over seven yeazs ago. He noted that the tower may have first been constructed for use for ham radio communications which would not have required permits if the site was located in the County. Mr. Smith said there has been a lack of information regarding the site from the beginning. Chairman Wilsey indicated this is a perfect opportunity to have the owners bring the towers into compliance. Assistant Planner Miller stated that this project has been delayed because staff has been working with the applicant to ensure compliance. She indicated that the applicant has provided engineered plans and that the applicant is applying for the necessary building permits. Assistant Planner Miller indicated that the owner has submitted authorization for RCC Consultants to apply for building pemuts. Community Development Director Brady clarified that Prime Communications is just leasing the property. RCC Consultants is acting as the agent in obtaining the proper compliance. Chairman Wilsey also concurred with Commissioner Barnes in regards to the guidelines. He indicated that he would like to see something adopted before another applicant gets submitted. Chairman Wilsey did indicate that he feels this particular site is unobtrusive and would not have an impact on the surrounding area. MOVED BY MATTHIES, SECONDED BY POLK AND CARRIED BY A 4-1 VOTE WITH BARNES CASTING THE DISSENTING VOTE TO APPROVE MINOR DESIGN REVIEW NO. M 99-1 AND VARIANCE NO. 99-4 WITH CORRECTIONS TO PAGE 4 OF THE STAFF REPORT AND CONDITION # 5 BASED ON THE FINDINGS, EXHIBITS, AND CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL. 3. Commercial Project No. 99-1, Variance No. 99-5, Conditional Use Permit No. 99-4. and Conditional Use Permit No. 99-5 - "Ultramaz Gasoline and Service Station" at 301 N. Main Street. Community Development Director Brady indicated that this is an application for the Service Station on Main Street, formerly a Texaco Station, across from the Circle K. He indicated the applicant is proposing some upgrades and improvements to the facility. He asked Senior Planner Villa to review the project with the Planning Commission. Senior Planner Villa indicated that the project entails the complete rehabilitation of an existing gasoline station, which is located at the corner of Main Street and Sumner Avenue. He indicated the project includes an approximate 320 square foot expansion to the existing building, a canopy structure towards the rear of the property, an additional pump island with canopy, additional landscaping, and additional parking. Senior Planner Villa indicated a variance is required due to the reduction in the required landscaping requirements. He indicated the code requires a fifteen foot landscaping buffer along a public right of way. Senior Planner Villa noted that as this is a legally non- conforming use, the applicant was unable to obtain full compliance. Staff recommends that PAGE 4 -PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES -JUNE 2, 1999 the variance be approved as the applicant is in greater compliance with the LEMC. Senior Planner Villa indicated the first Conditional Use Permit is required for the expansion of a legally non-conforming use. He stated that Planning Area 1 of the Lake Elsinore Historic District specifically states that gasoline dispensing establishments are not permitted, however, since this gas station has been in existence prior to the adoption of the Historic Elsinore Overlay Standards, this use is considered to be a legally nonconforming use. He stated that this status allows the applicant to apply for a Conditional Use Permit. Senior Planner Villa indicated that the second Conditional Use Permit is required for the operation of a gas station in conjunction with amini-mart and for the sale of alcoholic beverages in conjunction with the sale of motor vehicle fuel. He noted that staff has worked with the applicant to put together a project which is in greater compliance with the LEMC. Senior Planner Villa indicated that the only issue of concern is the request for an alcohol license. He stated that staff has contacted the Department of Alcoholic Beverage Control (ABC) and the Police Department. Senior Planner Villa stated that the issues of concern that were mentioned included the over saturation of liquor licenses within Census Tract 430, the neighboring residential uses, and the business across the street which is currently approved to sell liquor. He stated that the Police Department has reviewed the request and determined the request acceptable if the site is fully improved and if conditions are placed on the business. Senior Planner Villa indicated that staff has worked closely with the applicant to insure that this request reflects greater compliance with the directives of the Historic Elsinore Design and Development Standards. He said that staff believes the proposed project will be an enhancement to the area and would like to recommend that the Planning Commission recommends to the City Council approval of Commercial Project No. 99-1 and that the Planning Commission approves Conditional Use Permit 99-4, Conditional Use Permit 99-5, and Variance No. 99-5 based on the findings, exhibits, and conditions of approval. Chairman Wilsey opened the public hearing at 7:29 pm. Janie Morales, 126 E. Sumner Avenue, Lake Elsinore, CA, read a petition signed by approximately 60 local residents requesting that the liquor license not be approved. The concerns listed in the petition are the close proximately of a school, residences, and the Circle K which already sells liquor. Ms. Morales stated that there are already too many businesses selling liquor. Ron Vergilio, 508 S. Smith Street, #206, Corona, CA 91720, indicated he is the applicant and that he is trying very hard to improve the appearance of the business. He stated he would like to ask that the Planning Commission remove Condition #7. He said he is concerned that the loading zone will require the loss of regular parking. He said a service station is not like a regular store as staff picks up any parts that are needed. Mr. Vergilio indicated has no problem with any of the other conditions. Mr. Vergilio said that the station would be selling not dispensing liquor and that the alcohol would not be consumed on site. There being no further comments from the public, Chairman Wilsey closed the public hearing at 7:34 pm. Commissioner Barnes stated he has no comments at this time. Commissioner Sands noted he applauds the effort of the applicant to enhance the site. He indicated that the Census Tract is quite large. He does not believe that there is an oversaturation of ABC permits approved based on the increase of population since the 1990 Census. He indicated that he is in favor of the additional landscaping within the public right of way on both Main Street and Sumner Avenue. Commissioner Polk said the only reservation he has is the connotation of "Drive and Drink." He said that the customer purchases the alcohol and gets in their car and that no one knows what happens once he leaves the station. He further indicated that there are so many mini- PAGE 5 -PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES -JUNE 2, 1999 marts now that this is probably a mote point. Commissioner Polk said he admired the work that is being done to improve the business. Mr. Vergilio indicated that a customer can go across the street and purchase alcohol and that will just cause more traffic problems. He noted that if a person wants to purchase alcohol then they would find it. Mr. Vergilio stated that the profit on gasoline is very minimal and that service stations are making their profits on the tune-ups and miscellaneous food items sold in mini-marts. He stated this is why the mini-marts are becoming so popular. Commissioner Matthies addressed the loading zone and asked staff if the applicant loses a parking space will they still be able to meet the parking requirements. Senior Planner Villa indicated the code requires five parking spaces. He stated staff is recommending the applicant provide a loading zone for the deliveries needed for the mini-mart. He indicated that the purpose is to keep the delivery trucks away from the circulation pattern by the gas pumps. Ms. Morales reiterated her concern about the sale of liquor. She indicated she is concerned about the children. Commissioner Matthies said she is in agreement with keeping Condition #7 as long as staff does not think the loss of a parking space is a problem. Commissioner Barnes indicated he is happy to see the renovation of this business. He indicated he has always been against the sale of alcohol at gas stations. He noted he would vote in favor of the project if the sale of alcohol at the station were removed. Commissioner Sands asked if the "Ultramar" color scheme would fit in with the requirements of the Historic Elsinore District. Senior Planner Villa said the only requirement is that the colors be muted. Chairman Wilsey said in the past the Planning Commission has approved the color schemes of national chains. Senior Planner. Villa indicated that the petition submitted by Ms. Morales shows approximately 60 signatures of individuals against the sale of alcohol at this site. He stated the petition would be entered into the file. Chairman Wilsey said this is the second time he has seen this project and hopes this applicant will follow through with the plan. Chairman Wilsey indicated he has a real problem with the sale of alcohol at gas stations. He stated that this is a mute point as basically every gas station being built has amini-mart included in the design. MOVED BY SANDS, SECONDED BY POLK AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO RECOMMEND TO THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL OF COMMERCIAL PROJECT N0.99-1 AND APPROVE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 99-4, CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT N0.99-5, AND VARIANCE N0.99-5 BASED ON THE EXHIBITS, FINDINGS, AND CONDITIONS. Chairman Wilsey recessed the meeting at 7:52 pm. Chairman Wilsey reconvened the Planning Commission Meeting at 7:56 pm. BUSINESS ITEMS 4. Consideration of a Request Submitted by the Lake Elsinore School District Regarding the Acquisition of a Parcel of Land in an Industrial Zone for a School Site Community Development Director Brady stated that the School District submitted a letter to the City indicating the School District's intention to acquire a 6.6 acre parcel of land for the location of a school. He noted that the parcel is located in an industrial district on the northeast corner of Flint Street and Chaney Street. He indicated that the Public Resources PAGE 6 -PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES - JiTNE 2, 1999 Code requires the District to submit a letter to the Planning Commission stating their intentions and that the Planning Commission is to provide a written response within 30 days. Community Development Director Brady noted that if the Planning Commission recommend that the District not purchase the proposed parcel, the District must wait 30 days before moving forward with the purchase of the property. Community Development Director Brady indicated that staff is not recommending support of locating a school in an industrial zone. He noted that the City and staff recognizes that additional school sites aze needed within the City of Lake Elsinore and staff is not opposed to this, however, school uses are not compatible with industrial-manufacturing uses. Community Development Director Brady outlined some reasons why a school should not be located in an M-1 zone. He stated that a school use would not be compatible with the industrial type uses located in an M-1 zone due to the noise, vibration, odors, and truck traffic and possible exposure to materials that could be hazardous. He further indicated that other considerations include economic reasons, as the property would be removed from the tax roles if the School District owns the land. Community Development Director Brady indicated there is already a limited amount of industrially zone property in the City. Community Development Director Brady also mentioned that the School District is a sepazate agency and is not required to comply with the City's building codes and regulations so the City would not be able to enforce items such as setbacks or traffic mitigation. Community Development Director said typically schools are located in residential areas. He stated an addendum to the staff report has been submitted that outlines additional concerns regarding this proposal. Commissioner Matthies excused herself from the meeting and left the room, as she is a teacher in the School District. Kenn Young, Assistant Superintendent of the Lake Elsinore Unified School District, indicated he is here tonight in an attempt to clarify the School District's reasons for choosing this parcel for a future school facility. He indicated that although the District can render the Zoning Ordinance inapplicable, he indicated that the School District would rather not take this approach and in turn work with the City. Mr. Young noted that the project is really three different facilities: a district warehouse building, a maintenance and operations facility, and an alternative education center. He stated the first two uses are in total compliance with the type of uses allowed in an M-1 zone. He noted the current wazehouse is located on commercial property that the District leases behind the District offices. Mr. Young indicated that that parcel would be returned to the tax rolls as soon as the wazehouse is moved to the new facility. He stated that the current maintenance and operation facilities are located on the site of two different schools and the District would like to combine them into one facility. Finally, the alternative education center is currently located on Chaney Street, next to the District offices, and approximately 500 feet from where the new facility is being proposed. Mr. Young said the alternative education center houses students which typically have had challenges with the traditional programs and are looking for a vocational cazeer path. Mr. Young indicated that the state has made funds available for the District to buy land and build a facility, but that funds are not available to purchase an existing facility. Mr. Young said this is an opportunity for the District to get away from having to lease building space. He said the District has looked throughout the area for months before finally settling on the proposed parcel. He said one of the challenges is that the facility must be located close to the I-15 freeway, close to bus routes, and centrally located within the District. He said the District has worked with the City and other Real Estate Brokers and has not located any other parcels that would be workable for this facility. Mr. Young further indicated that the District would be willing to look at the plans the City has for the outflow channel and would try to accommodate these improvements. Chairman Wilsey inquired how many students would be in attendance at the facility. Mr. Young stated that the average daily attendance is 45-50 students. He indicated that this PAGE 7 -PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES - JiJNE 2, 1999 number includes approximately 250 students who are the independent study program and are required to attend sessions once a week. Commissioner Polk asked if the land has been purchased. Mr. Young stated the offer has been put on the property and is currently in escrow. Commissioner Polk asked if this proposal would in anyway effect the Ortega Continuation High School. Mr. Young indicated that that school is being proposed to be moved to a different property on Chaney Street, across the street from the District Office. Commissioner Polk asked which children would be attending the alternative education center. Mr. Young said these are generally students that are suspended or expelled from school. He said these will be the same students are attending classes in the commercial building that the District leases next to the District office on Chaney Street. Commissioner Barnes asked Mr. Young if he was aware of EVMWD's plan to expand the existing water treatment plant which is directly across the street from the proposed facility. Mr. Young indicated he is aware of the expansion and does not feel it will impact the District in anyway. Commissioner Polk indicated his concern is the impacts that will be faced by minors being in attendance in an industrial park. He asked how this may effect the local business and if there would be any additional liability to the businesses. Mr. Young said the proposed site is in the far corner of the industrial park and is fairly isolated. Commissioner Barnes asked how the students get to school. Mr. Young indicated that most students take the bus. Commissioner Barnes and Polk both mentioned that there would be 40-45 students walking through the industrial park everyday. They inquired if there would be a need for the business owners to have increase insurance based on the additional liability. Chairman Wilsey indicated his major concern is that directly behind the proposed site is a large industrial facility that works extensively with fiberglass. He indicated there must be fiberglass dust, etc. in the area. Commissioner Sands also indicated that there is heavy truck traffic as there is a sandpit nearby. Mr. Young indicated that the California Department of Education must approve this site before the deal can close escrow. He indicated that they would look at all of the issues just mentioned. Chairman Wilsey asked about the possible employment opportuuties that the facility would afford the community. Mr. Young noted that the School District is the largest employer in the valley. He indicated the District employees over 1700 people and the student population is currently 15,500 students. Mr. Young indicated the District does not look at the job opportunities offered by any one facility but rather as a whole. Commissioner Sands commented on the economic development program that the City has implemented and commented on the recent commercial /industrial growth. He indicated that he appreciates that the land is reasonably priced but that does not mean that the district should place students near the adverse conditions associated with industrial businesses. He noted he would have no problems with the maintenance or warehouse facility but that he has a problem with placing students in this environment. Mr. Young indicated that the challenge is that they are already just down the street. Commissioner Barnes questioned any possible effects on existing or future businesses in regards to their environmental clearance in relation to Negative Declarations or Environmental Irnpact Reports. He noted he believes certain industrial businesses would not be allowed to be located near a school under the environmental laws. Community Development Brady indicated that under CEQA consideration would have to be given to the fact that a school is located in the vicinity. This may adversely effect a future business and possibly either prevent a business from locating there or place additional mifigation measures on the business. Chainnan Wilsey questioned if this would effect the existing businesses. Community Development Director indicated they are already being regulated but it may be a future problem. Commissioner Barnes asked if the future expansion plans of the Water District's treatment plants would be effected. Community Development Director Brady indicated he did not think EVMWD would be effected. PAGE 8 -PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES -JUNE 2, 1999 The commissioners all expressed concern over the loss of prime industrial /manufacturing real estate and how a nearby school will have on future environmental reviews. Mr. Young indicated the School District has been looking for months and has not found any other suitable sites. Chairman Wilsey indicated that the discussion is not moving forward and called for a recommendation from the Commissioners. MOVED BY SANDS, SECONDED BY BARNES AND CARRIED BY 3-1 VOTE WITH POLK CASTING THE DISSENTING VOTE AND MATTHIES ABSTAINING TO CONCUR WITH THE FINDINGS AND RECOMMENDATIONS AND SUBMITTED BY STAFF. ADJOURNED TO DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE The Planning Commission adjourned to the Design Review Committee at 8:28 p.m. The Planning Commission reconvened at 8:30 p.m. INFORMATIONAL Community Development Director Brady indicated that at the last meeting Commissioner Barnes requested a status report of the improvements along Summerhill Drive. He indicated that a memorandum was submitted to the Commissioners which states the status and probable completion date of Mid July 1999. PLANNING COMMISSIONER'S COMMENTS Commissioner Matthies -Commented on the Followine: Commissioner Matthies thanked staff for the work on tonight's agenda items. Commissioner Polk -Commented on the Followine: Commissioner Polk indicated the need of working as a team with the School District. Commissioner Barnes- Commented on the Followine: Commissioner Barnes noted that the School District has staff who is responsible for finding alternative sites for future facilities and there is a limit on how much City staff can do. Commissioner Barnes asked the status of the gas station on Graham Street. Commissioner Sands -Commented on the Followine: No Comment. Chairman Wilsey -Commented on the Following: Chairman Wilsey noted that there is still a sign on Grand Avenue, near Lincoln and Lakeshore, which states an alternate route for construction traffic. He questioned the continued need for this sign as there is no current construction in this area. Community Development Director Brady indicated he will look into having this sign removed. STAFF COMMENTS Community Development Director Brady indicated staff has had several meetings with the School District. The School District was aware of the City's concerns regarding locating a school in an industrial zone. Community Development Director Brady indicated the City does want to have a good relationship with both the School District, Water District, and all PAGE 9 -PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES -JUNE 2, 1999 other agencies that provide services within the City. He indicated that the School District has their reasons for wanting to locate the facility in the proposed location. Senior Planner Villa indicated that revisions were needed to the plans for the station on Graham. The grading plans were also late in being submitted. He noted that building permits can not be issued until the grading plans are approved. Community Development Director Brady indicated that the Ford Dealership has pulled permits and hopes to be open by November 1999. Community Development Director Brady also indicated that Canyon Hills Community church has withdrawn their application for approval of a preschool and childcare center on Riverside Drive. MOVED BY SANDS, SECONDED BY MATTHIES AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO ADJOURN THE REGULAR PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING AT 8:50 PM. Respectfully Submitted ~~~~~~ , onika Henning ~, Community Development Secretary ATTEST: Rober A. Brady, Secretary the Planning Commission MINUTES PLANNING June 16,1999 MEETING The Regular Planning Commission Meeting was called to order at 7:00 p.m. by Chairman Wilsey. The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Commissioner Barnes. ROLL CALL PRESENT: COMMISSIONERS: WILSEY, SANDS, BARNES, POLK, AND MATTHIES ABSENT: COMMISSIONER: NONE Also present were: Community Development Director Brady, Assistant Planner Miller, City Engineer O'Donnell, and Community Development Secretary Hennings. PUBLIC COMMENTS There being no request to speak, the Public Comments section was closed. CONSENT CALENDAR MOVED BY SANDS, SECONDED BY MATTHIES AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR. Minutes a. Planning Commission Regular Meeting of June 2, 1999 PUBLIC HEARINGS 2. Tentative Tract Map No. 29216, Pardee Construction Community Development Director Brady indicated that the applicant has requested that this item be continued to the next Planning Commission Meeting. MOVED BY SANDS, SECONDED BY POLK AND CARRIED BY A 4-1 VOTE WITH BARNES ABSTAINING TO CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING TO JULY 7,1999. 3. Liberty Specific Plan Amendment No. 2, General Plan Amendment No. 98-4, "A" Tentative Tract Map No. 28766, and Mitieated Negative Declaration No. 99-3 (Liberty Founders, c/o Town Group Inc•l Community Development Director Brady indicated that the applicant is requesting that this item be continued to July 7, 1999. Commissioner Barnes asked if the items that are still being discussed are new items or issues that have been discussed previously. Community Development Director Brady indicated that the issues of concern are related to the conditions and mitigation measure for the Negative Declaration. Chairman Wilsey inquired if a study session is necessary to discus the issues regarding Diamond Drive. Community Development Director Brady indicated that the applicant has filed an application with the city and staff is obligated to bring this item before the Planning Commission. Chairman Wilsey indicated that he strongly suggests that another study session be held. Commissioner Polk indicated that the Hearing must be continued, as he has not received any information regarding this project. PAGE 2 -PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES -JUNE 16, 1999 MOVED BY SANDS, SECONDED BY POLK AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING TO JULY 7,1999. BUSINESS ITEMS 4. Minor Design Review for a Side Familv Residence located at 522 Franklin Street - APN 373-054-008. 009. &010 Community Development Director Brady indicated that this application is for a single family residence to be located at 522 Franklin Street. He asked that Assistant Planner Miller present the project to the Commission. Assistant Planner Miller indicated that first she would like to make a few changes to the staff report. She noted that the owner and applicant names are reversed on the first page. The applicant is Curt Joyner and the owners are Everett and Constance Ashley. She indicated that on page two, the last sentence under "Analysis" should refer to condition #13 not condition #12. Finally, she asked that the "Environmental" and "Recommendations" sections on page 3 be removed as they are duplicate sections. Assistant Planner Miller indicated that this project is in Area 5 of the Historic Elsinore Overlay District. She stated that the project encompasses three parcels that were merged into one 10,790 square foot parcel. Assistant Planner Miller noted that the applicant is proposing to place a 2,329 square foot manufactured home and a 480 square foot two car garage on the site. She then described the floorplan of the home as well as describing the materials and colors to be used. Assistant Planner Miller noted that this area is governed by the Historic Elsinore Architectural Design Standards which includes eight acceptable architectural styles. She indicated that the style most closely related to the proposed residence is the Monterey style. Assistant Planner Miller described the features of the Monterey style emphasizing that a prominent feature is a large front porch. She indicated that staff asked the applicant to include a front porch, but the applicant said the porch would make the project cost prohibitive. Assistant Planner Miller indicated that staff does not want to initiate a trend that could establish a precedent for future development which could sway away from the intent of the Historic Design Standards. She stated that staff is therefore recommending that a porch be required. Assistant Planner Miller indicated that staff is requesting the Planning Commission to consider the project based on the findings, exhibits, and conditions of approval. Bernie Truax, owner of Countrywide Homes and the builder of the home, indicated that the owners agree to all of the conditions except Condition #13 which requires a front porch. Commissioner Sands stated that he is not opposed to the manufactured home, but he did indicate that it is the responsibility of the Planning Commission to follow the guidelines and not sway from their intent. He therefore noted that a front porch should be required. Commissioner Barnes stated that the guidelines are somewhat strict. He noted the product is very nice and feels staff did a good job working within the guidelines. He indicated that he would concur with Condition #13. Commissioner Bames noted that he has a question regarding Condition #9. He indicated that the Condition requires the applicant use a Presidential Shake, a three dimensional shingle, which is not what is presented on the materials boazd. Mr. Truax indicated that the applicant went to City Hall and was never told that the pazcel lies within the Historic District. He described the long process the Ashleys had to go through to get a decent appraisal on the house based on the condition of the neighborhood. He stated that the final appraisal still required the Ashleys to pay the difference between the appraisal and the cost of the home and land He told the Commission a little of the Ashleys background with the main point being that Mrs. Ashley is originally from Lake Elsinore. Mr. Truax stated that the roofing can not PAGE 3 -PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES -JUNE 16, 1999 be changed as the home is already built. He also indicated that the Ashleys do not have any additional money for a porch. Mr. Truax indicated that the project will be an asset to the community and stated that the Commission needs to support new development. Mr. Truax stated that there has only been one house built in the Historic District since the guidelines were adopted. He asked if the guidelines are just too hard and too expensive to follow. Chairman Wilsey asked Assistant Planner Miller if she had any comments to add. Assistant Planner Miller indicated that she has previously met with Mr. Truax. She indicated that staff must follow the guidelines and therefore she must recommend that a porch be included. Commissioner Barnes indicated he is trying to determine when the applicant received the information regarding the Historic Elsinore Guidelines. Assistant Planner Miller indicated that she understands that when Mr. Truax first met with staff members, it was not determined that the parcel lied within the Historic Elsinore District. She indicated that it was not until she started the review and scheduled to meet with Mr. Truax that this was noticed. She indicated that she was not involved in the first meeting. Community Development Director Brady indicated that staff is not opposed to the project and actually several other builders are looking at placing manufactured homes on an infill bases. He stated that he can not confmn what was said at the first meeting although he said there may have been some misconception as to where the parcel was located. He indicated that this is precisely why staff does meet with applicants, so that these issues can be brought out. Commissioner Barnes indicated that he is just trying to determine if this was a true mistake on the City's behalf. He stated that if this is the case, then the Commission must be fair in its ruling. He noted that he feels staff has done a very good job of bending the strict rules of the Historic District to get to this point in the process. Commissioner Polk asked what direction the house faces. Mr. Truax indicated that the house faces north, fronting Franklin Street. He said that the house has box windows and actually has several features that are similar to the Craftsman style house, which is also allowed in the Historic Elsinore District. He questioned if all features must be present or if the style just needs to be similar. He said the roofing would not have been a problem if it would have been brought up at the first meeting, but now it is too late. Chairman Wilsey said the roofing is a city wide standard. He said he would like to see the roofing changed. Commissioner Polk asked what size of porch would be required. Community Development Director Brady indicated that staff will work with the applicant if the Commission so desires. Commissioner Matthies said she understands that a new house is quite a financial burden. She said it may be nice if it was possible to have the Ashleys build the porch sometime in the future although she understands that it is hard to follow up and enforce those kind of conditions. She did say that she would like to find out if the roofing is a citywide requirement. Assistant Planner Miller stated that it is her understanding that this has been the policy that has been established by the Planning Commission for some time. Chairman Wilsey asked Mr. Truax if he has a cost analysis on the porch. Mr. Truax indicated that they have not gone that far as the Ashleys do not want nor can they afford a porch. Chairman Wilsey indicated that they can not compromise the neighborhood by not enforcing the guidelines. Mr. Truax again stated that the house will be an improvement to the neighborhood. Chairman Wilsey asked if the Ashleys would like to address the Commission and give insight as to why they are opposed to the porch. Mrs. Constance Ashley reiterated her family history in relation to the City of Lake Elsinore. She said her dream has always been to come home. She said she talked to Assistant Planner Miller about the requirements. She indicated she has already spent approximately $2000 merging the parcels. She said this house is beautiful as it is and she does not want a porch as it will detract from the architecture of the house. Furthermore, she said the porch would eat up her front yard, as her lot is not very deep. She said she talked to staff at City Hall throughout the entire process and was never told about the requirements of the Historic District. She indicated that the handouts she PAGE 4 -PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES -JUNE 16, 1999 received in relation to manufactured homes do not mention these requirements either. She noted that the standards should not be impossible to meet. She said the house is built to her specifications and she does not want to spend money on something that she does not want. She insisted that there must be some way to compromise. Commissioner Polk indicated that the applicant went forth with good faith. He stated that the intent of the Historic District is mostly satisfied with this design and he indicated he would like to agree with the applicant. Chairman Wilsey and Commissioner Matthies concurred. Commissioner Matthies indicated that the house is beautiful and is an asset to the City. She noted that the features of this house do display characteristics that complies with the intent of the Historic District. Commissioner Barnes indicated that it appears that the house was constructed prior to city approval and this should not sway any opinions, but he indicated that he is letting it sway his. MOVED BY BARNES, SECONDED BY MATTHIES TO APPROVE THE MINOR DESIGN REVIEW FOR A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE LOCATED AT 522 FRANKLIN STREET BASED ON THE FINDINGS, EXHIBITS, AND CONDITIONS WITH THE FOLLOWING CORRECTIONS: DELETE CONDITION #13 AND AMEND CONDITION #9 TO READ "APPLICANT SHALL USE ROOFING MATERIALS WITH A MINIMUM OF CLASS B FIRE RATING." Community Development Director Brady stated that the roofing will still need to meet the building code. He further stated that the requirements for this project may have been missed since this pazcel in on the very fringes of the historic area. He said that this house will have a positive effect to the neighborhood the Commission can use this house as a comparison for future projects in this area. Commissioner Bames asked if the applicant is required to construct sidewallcs. Community Development Director Brady indicated that the applicant has been required to pay in lieu fees. Commissioner Sands indicated he can appreciate Mrs. Ashley's comments. He further noted that is on the very outskirts of the Historic Area. He indicated he would like to rescind his opinion after listening to the applicants comments. Chairman Wilsey indicated that Mr. Truax is very fortunate. He stated that Mr. Truax should have known the City codes. Chairman Wisely indicated that he would have made him reroof the home. THE ABOVE MOTION WAS PASSED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT. 5. Minor Design Review. M 99-2. for a Center Identification Sien located within the Lakeside Center. 16770. 16776. & 16782 Lakeshore Drive - APN 378-290-013 Community Development Director indicated that this is a freestanding Center Identification Sign located at the Lakeside Center. He asked that Assistant Planner Miller review the project with the Commission. Assistant Planner Miller indicated that the applicant is asking for approval of a double sided, illuminated Center Identification Sign. She indicated that the sign is six feet by twelve feet and is approximately 17 feet high and will allow 15 tenant names. Assistant Planner Miller indicated that the applicant will be required to provide a brick planter as well as provide a brick facing on the sign pole. Assistant Planner Miller indicated that staff finds the sign to be in compliance and therefore recommends approval. PAGE 5 -PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES -JUNE 16, 1999 Steve Hurst, 15661 Producer Lane Unit B, Huntington Beach, CA, indicated he is with Blake Sign Company and also represents the owner. He indicated that he would like clarification of Condition #6 as the pole already has a box cover. Assistant Planner Miller indicated staff is asking for a brick veneer over the pole cover. Mr. Hurst indicated he has no other questions. Chairman Wilsey and the Commissioners all agreed that the sign is needed and a good addition to the center. MOVED BY MATTHIES, SECONDED BY BARNES AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO APPROVE THE MINOR DESIGN REVIEW, M 99-2, FOR A CENTER IDENTIFICATION SIGN LOCATED WITHIN THE LAKESIDE CENTER BASED ON THE FINDINGS, EXHH3ITS, AND CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL. ADJOURNED TO DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE The Planning Commission adjourned to the Design Review Committee at 7:55 p.m. The Planning Commission reconvened at 8:57 p.m. INFORMATIONAL STAFF COMMENTS Community Development Director Brady reminded the Planning Commission of the following: • The next City Council meeting has been rescheduled to Monday, June 21, 1999. • The Mayor's Breakfast will be July 1, 1999. • The first Town Hall Meeting will be held at Tuscany Elementary School on June 23, 1999. PLANNING COMMISSIONER'S COMMENTS Commissioner Barnes -Commented on the Followine: Commissioner Bames express appreciation for the work staff did on tonight's projects. He stated the recommendation by staff was fair and appropriate in light of the strictness of the standards. Commissioner Matthies -Commented on the Followine: Commissioner Matthies concurred with Commissioner Barnes. Commissioner Sands -Commented on the Followine: Commissioner Sands indicated he has talked to Carol Gordon regarding the signs for "Food Smart" and the "Wreck". Assistant Planner Miller stated letters will be sent out regarding those signs as well as letters regarding the fencing along Main Street. Commissioner Barnes -Commented on the Following: Commissioner Barnes noted that he understands there is a delay with the landscaping for Granite and Cornerstone. He asked if the developer can at least clean up the weeds and trash once a week. Community Development Director Brady indicated that staff will look at this issue. He indicated that staff is also looking at the landscaping and future maintenance costs and hopes to have the landscaping installed soon. PAGE 6 -PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES - JTJNE 16, 1999 Chairman Wilsey -Commented on the Following_ Chairman Wilsey asked that staff talk to the city landscape contractors regazding the sprinklers along the Hovanian Tract. He indicated that these sprinklers aze not working and some of the plants are dying. Community Development Director Brady indicated he will talk to Public Works about this issue. ADJOURNMENT MOVED BY SANDS, SECONDED BY BARNES AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO ADJOURN THE REGULAR PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING AT 8:07 PM. Respectfully Submitted -mod ~ 1~-----=, onika Henning ,Community Development Secretary A Robert A.Brady, Secre~ry to Planning Commission/ MINUTES PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING July 7,1999 The Regular Planning Commission Meeting was called to order at 7:00 p.m. by Chairman Wilsey. The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Commissioner Polk. ROLL CALL PRESENT: COMMISSIONERS: WILSEY, SANDS, BARNES, POLK, AND MATTHIES ABSENT: COMMISSIONER: NONE Also present were: Community Development Director Brady, City Attorney John McClendon, Senior Planner Morita, Associate Planner Miller, City Engineer O'Donnell, and Community Development Secretary Hennings. PUBLIC COMMENTS There being no request to speak, the Public Comments section was closed. CONSENT CALENDAR MOVED BY SANDS, SECONDED BY MATTHIES AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR. Minutes a. Planning Commission Regular Meeting of June 16, 1999 Chairman Wilsey indicated that it has been suggested, due to the length of the Public Hearing items, that the Business Items are heard first. The Commission concurred with this suggestion. 4. Minor Design Review, M 99-3, for a Revision to the Approved Elevations & an Addition of a Shopping Cart Storaee Area located at Albertsons, 32281 Mission Trail - APN 365-280- 019 Community Development Director Brady indicated that the Albertsons, located on Mission Trail, is proposing to make exterior improvements to the building. Associate Planner Miller indicated that this proposal is to revise the existing elevations and to add a shopping cart storage area. Associate Planner Miller indicated that staff has requested that a rear wall be added to the shopping cart storage area to restrain the carts. Associate Planner Miller indicated that the "Town Center" and most other shopping centers in the City require that the facades throughout the center be substantially the same. She indicated that if Albertsons, one of the major tenants in this center, changes the "hip-roof' style to a "gabled-roof' style than the rest of the center should also make these improvements. Mr. John Lee, Courtney Architects, indicated that the purpose of these revisions is to improve and update the image of this store. He said the color will substantially match the existing color throughout the center, although it will be a shade darker. Mr. Lee stated that he has a verbal commitment from the association of the center that they will repaint the entire center. PAGE 2 -PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES -JULY 7, 1999 Commissioner Sands indicated that he has no comments or questions. He stated that he felt the rendering adequately displays their intent. He noted that he feels that if the improvements will help update the image and bring in more business, than he is for the improvements. Commissioner Matthies asked the applicant if he is in agreement with the Conditions of Approval. Mr. Lee indicated that the paint will not exactly match the existing paint. Commissioner Matthies indicated that the wording can be revised slightly in Condition #7. Mr. Lee also indicated that both ends of the cart storage must be open. He indicated that the carts must be able to be pushed through one end, as there is not enough clearance between the doors and the front of the storage area to swing the carts around through the front of the storage area. Mr. Lee indicated that a removable chain can be placed at the back side of the storage area. Commissioner Matthies asked if a threshold could be added to keep the carts from rolling out of the storage area and hitting parked cars. Mr. Lee felt a chain would be adequate. Commissioner Polk mentioned that the Albertsons on Riverside Drive has an enclosed shopping cart storage area. Mr. Lee reiterated that there is less room to maneuver the carts because of the distance from the storage area to the entrance of the store. Commissioner Barnes indicated that his questions had been answered. Chairman Wilsey asked for staff input in regards to Condition #6. Associate Planner Miller indicated that she still feels that a back wall is the best solution as the chain may not be secured each time that the carts are brought up. Chairman Wilsey indicated that this is one of his concerns also. Chairman Wilsey asked for a revised condition that would allow some flexibility and require the applicant to work with staff. MOVED BY MATTHIES, SECONDED BY BARNES TO APPROVE THE MINOR DESIGN REVIEW, M 99-3, FOR A REVISION TO THE APPROVED ELEVATIONS & AN ADDITION OF A SHOPPING CART STORAGE AREA LOCATED AT ALBERTSONS, 32281 MISSION TRAIL WITH THE FOLLOWING REVISIONS TO THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL: 6. THE APPLICANT SHALL PROVIDE AN ACCEPTABLE MECHANISM OR SYSTEM TO RETAIN SHOPPING CARTS WITHIN THE SHOPPING CART STORAGE AREA. ALL COLORS AND MATERIALS USED SHALL CLOSELY MATCH THE EXISTING COLORS AND MATERLALS OF THE CENTER. 5. General Plan Conformity Determination for Re uest by Liberty Founders. L.L.C. for Conveyance of a Conservation Easement to the Armv Corps of Engineers over Aproroximately 28.42 Acres of Property Owned by the City of Lake Elsinore Community Development Director Brady indicated that this procedure is required by the Government Code when land is going to be conveyed or an interest in a parcel of land is going to be conveyed to find that the property is in conformance with the General Plan. He noted that the item before the Commission tonight is not the actual conveyance of the easement, but only the finding that the land designation of Open Space is consistent with the General Plan. Community Development Director Brady indicated that this issue before the Commission is a conservation easement that will be deeded from the City to the Army Corp of Engineers on a city owned parcel approximately 28 acres in size. He noted that this will help fulfill conditions for the Liberty project area. PAGE 3 -PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES - NLY 7, 1999 MOVED BY MATTHIES, SECONDED BY BARNES AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO CONCUR WITH THE FINDINGS IN THE STAFF REPORT, TO DETERMINE THAT THE CONVEYANCE OF A CONSERVATION EASEMENT DEED OVER THE PARCEL AMOUNTS TO A DISPOSITION OF PROPERTY IN CONFORMITY WITH THE GENERAL PLAN, AND TO DIRECT STAFF TO FORWARD A COPY OF THIS REPORT AS THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S REPORT AND DETERMINATION AS REQUIRED BY SECTION 65402 OF THE GOVERNMENT CODE TO THE CITY COUNCIL. 6. General Plan Conformity Determination fora +2.84 Acre Parcel of Land Located at the Northeast Corner of Limited and Langstaff, Owned by the City of Lake Elsinore, to be Conveyed to the County of Riverside for the Development of a Sheriff Station Community Development Director Brady that this is essentially the same requirement as above. He noted that this is for a parcel of land located on Langstaff and Limited that is currently owned by the City that will be conveyed to the County of Riverside for the construction of a new Sheriff Station. Community Development Director Brady indicated that the Commission must find that the land designation of Public / Institutional is consistent with the proposed use of a Sheriff Station. He again noted that this action does not convey the land, but only finds the parcel in conformance with the General Plan. MOVED BY BARNES, SECONDED BY POLK AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO CONCUR WITH THE FINDINGS IN THE STAFF REPORT, TO DETERMINE THAT THE CONVEYANCE OF THE ± 2.84 PARCEL OF LAND TO THE COUNTY OF RIVERSIDE FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF A SHERIFF STATION AMOUNTS TO A DISPOSITION OF PROPERTY IN CONFORMITY WITH THE GENERAL PLAN, AND TO DIRECT STAFF TO FORWARD A COPY OF THIS REPORT AS THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S REPORT AND DETERMINATION AS REQUHtED BY GOVERNMENT CODE SECTION 65402 TO THE CITY COUNCIL. Chairman Wilsey indicated that he just noticed that Dick Knapp had submitted a request to speak on item #5. Chairman Wilsey apologized for missing his request and invited him to speak at this time. Dick Knapp indicated that he is concerned about giving City property away. Mr. Knapp asked for the location of the property. Community Development Director Brady showed Mr. Knapp the general location on a map. He also reiterated that this is just an easement over the property so that Liberty can meet the required conditions of the Wetland Habitat Enhancement Program. Mr. Knapp indicated that his concern is that by declaring this property Open Space, the City is essentially devaluating the property by making is unbuildable. He noted that people own private property in this area. Mr. Knapp thanked the Commission for allowing him to speak. PUBLIC HEARINGS 2. Tentative Tract Map No. 29216. Pardee Construction (Continued from June 16 1999 MOVED BY MATTHIES, SECONDED BY POLK AND CARRIED BY A 4-1 VOTE WITH BARNES ABSTAINING TO WITHDRAW TTM NO. 29216 FROM THE AGENDA INDEFINITELY. 3. Liberty Specific Plan Amendment No. 2, General Plan Amendment No. 98-4. "A" Tentative Tract Maro No. 28766. and Mitigated Negative Declaration No 99-3 (Liberty Founders c/o Town Group. Inc.l (Continued from June 16 1999) Community Development Director Brady indicated that this is the second Specific Plan Amendment for the East Lake Specific Plan, also known as "Liberty". He said in addition there is a General Plan Amendment for Diamond Drive (Circulation Element), and "A" Tentative Tract Map No. 28766, and consideration of the Negative Declaration. He asked PAGE 4 -PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES -JULY 7, 1999 that Senior Planner Duane Morita review this request with the Planning Commission. Senior Planner Morita again outlined the applications being considered. He gave a background of the original East Lake Specific Plan which was approved in 1993 and the Specific Plan Amendment No. 1 which was approved in 1998. Senior Planner Morita stated that SPA 2 consists of three major components. He indicated that the first component includes land use changes resulting from a new wetland enhancement plan required by the various Federal, State, and Local resource agencies. Senior Planner Morita stated that the second major component describes the revisions to the previous Conditions of Approval which were approved in 1993 and 1998. He noted that these changes are outlined on pages 4 and 5 of the staff report. Senior Planner Morita stated that the third component introduces the Traditional Neighborhood Design (TND) concept. He noted that TND is a new design concept which proposes what staff finds to be some interesting architectural and visual amenities and features. Senior Planner Morita said that in order to make the TND concept workable, the applicant is proposing General Plan Amendment (GPA) No. 98-4, which amends the City's circulation element to redesignate a section of Diamond Drive between Malaga and Bundy Canyon Drive from afour-lane Major Highway to a two-lane Collector Highway. Senior Planner Morita stated that "A" Tentative Tract Map (TTM) 28766 proposes to divide the Phase 1 area into large lots for financial purposes. He stated that staff supports SPA 2 if all the Conditions of Approval contained in the staff report and those Mitigation measures recommended in Subsequent Mitigated Negative Declaration No. 99-3 are satisfied. He indicated that staff believes that SPA 2 is more environmentally sensitive and finds that the TND concept to be visually and aesthetically interesting. He indicated that staff also supports GPA 99-4. He indicated that the City Engineer has found that Phase I will not create any congestion along Diamond Drive, even with the narrowing of Diamond Drive. However, Senior Planner Morita noted that the City Engineer isn't certain if subsequent phases will create any congestion. He indicated that Condition #9 has been recommended which will require further evaluation prior to development of Phase II. Senior Planner Morita indicated that staff also supports "A" TTM 28766, since the map is consistent with SPA 2 and other requirements of the City. Senior Planner Morita indicated that staff worked diligently with the applicant and he indicated that all issues have been resolved. He summarized these issues which are included on pages 6 and 7 of the staff report. Chairman Wilsey opened the Public Hearing at 7:32 pm. Rick Goacher, The Town Group, thank the Commission for granting the continuance. Mr. Goacher presented a brief history of the "Liberty" project. He stated that in November 1998 there was a study session to discuss Diamond Drive. He said that from this study session, The Town Group had to reexamine their proposal. He said in March and April 1999, they reapproached staff with 10 technical points regarding the design of the GPA. Mr. Goacher indicated that when The Town Group presented these 10 points, staff generally concurred although there were still some lingering doubts, so a "fix-it" condition was included which will require additional traffic studies as the future phases are built. Rick Goacher indicated that SPA 2 includes an increased open area due to the wetland habitat enhancement project. He indicated that SPA 2 also introduces the TND scenario, corrects some clerical errors and revises some of the 1993 Conditions of Approval. Rick Goacher stated that the TTM would allow for the creation of the backbone infrastructure, creation of the wetland areas, would allow grading, and would allow financing of some of the large parcels. He indicated that the TTM would not allow any residential development. This development would not be allowed until a "B" map is approved. PAGE 5 -PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES -JULY 7, 1999 Mary Lynn Coffee, The Town Group, introduced the Wetland Habitat Enhancement Project (WHEP). She indicated that this is not a mitigation project, but rather is an enhancement project. She stated that the WHEP provides assistance in complying with the special conditions that governs all work that occurs in the back basin as a result of the Lake Management Project Permit. Mary Lynn Coffee indicated that the WHEP realigns the San Jacinto River to a more central location and makes it larger, wider, and longer. It increases the corridor and surrounding riparian habitat from 26 acres to approximately 112 acres. Ms. Coffee described the enhanced wetland areas. Ms. Coffee indicated that the largest pool in the enhancement area contains endangered species and thus can not be impacted in any way. She stated that this is the property, currently owned by the City, that the Arrny Corps of Engineers has requested a conservation easement. This property is otherwise unusable due to the environrental resources. Ms. Coffee said that the WHEP, in addition to providing environmental benefits, also provides water quality benefits. Ms. Coffee then explained these benefits which included preserving the ground water supply and providing better water circulation. Mary Lyrm Coffee then explained the different layers of jurisdiction that the Army Corp of Engineers has over the project including the special conditions. She briefly went through the requirements of the conditions. She explained how the WHEP helps Liberty Founders achieve the approvals needed under the special conditions. Rick Goacher indicated that The Town Group is asking for some minor revisions to the Conditions of Approval. He indicated that staff and the City Attorney has had an opportunity to review these revisions. Chris Hyland, indicated that she would like to have a comment found in the newspaper explained. She stated that the article stated in part "...requested to redesignate a section of Diamond Drive between Malaga Road and Bundy Canyon Road from a four land major highway to a two land collector highway." Ms. Hyland indicated that she showed this article to Supervisor Buster yesterday and he indicated that this statement was incorrect. She indicated that she faxed additional information to Supervisor Buster today but has not yet heard back from him. She noted that this issue should be addressed. Peter Dawson, 18010 Grand Avenue, Lake Elsinore, indicated that the economic status of the community is directly effected by the health of the lake which in turn is effected by the availability of water. He stated that the Liberty project is a limiting factor on the supply and storage of excess water. He stated that placing any structures where water can be stored is short sited. He further indicated he is adamantly opposed to any building taking place in the flood plain. Eike Hohenadl, 27 Corta Palazzo, indicated is speaking on behalf of Skydive Elsinore. He asked that the Planning Commission pay close attention to all phases of development to make sure that the Liberty project and the airport work together. Mr. Hohenadl stated that the take off and landing patterns go over parts of the Liberty property and he does not want to see the airport and Skydive Elsinore squeezed out of town. Tony Brogdon, 31006 Lakeview Ave, East, Lakeview, CA, has been a businessman and involved with the community for the last 10 years. He said he is impressed with the Liberty project and the way it has been handled. He said this project is good for the long-term benefit of the community and that the City is very fortunate to have such a committed group of people striving to improve the community. Dick Knapp indicated that he has been reviewing the maps and is concerned about the articles that he read in the paper. He read that the property will be elevated to the 1265' elevation and feels that this is too low. He indicated that the levee is at 1265'. His other concerns included the realignment of the San Jacinto River, the reduced width of Diamond Drive, and the reduced setbacks. PAGE 6 -PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES -JULY 7, 1999 Alex Mutch, 15700 Lake Terrace Drive, indicated that he was under the impression that Diamond Drive was going to be extended to Corydon. He said the best planning he has seen in Lake Elsinore is North Shore and Tuscany Hills. He indicated that Diamond Drive needs to be a divided roadway that extends to Corydon with stop lights, block walls and bushes to keep the graffiti off the walls. He further stated that there should be no alleys. He reiterated that it should be exactly like North Shore. Michael Nichols, 3331 Celeste, Riverside, indicated that he is representing the Principals of Highgrove Restaurants, which owns several restaurants in town. He indicated that they believe Liberty is a quality product. He indicated that Oak Grove Equities, owner of Lake Elsinore City Center, was not able to attend but also expressed their support of the project by faxing a letter to City Hall today. Jackson Helton indicated he has been in the Lake Elsinore area since 1967. He said he lost a house on Martin Street during the flood. He said his. concern is the traffic on Diamond Street in front of the stadium. He said he attended the concert on the 4~' of July and it took 1 1/2 hours to get out of the parking lot after the fireworks. He said the traffic control after special events needs to be considered. Tony Vincent, a minor, stated he resides at 24950 Highway 74, Perris. He said that as a young person in the community he has noticed a lack of economic growth in the community. He said there are shopping center that are half empty and that there is not much to do. He indicated that the project will help with the economic growth of the area and will help feed the local shopping centers. He reiterated that the community needs growth. There being no further comments, Chairman Wilsey closed the Public Hearing at 8:19 pm. Chairman Wilsey indicated that the Planning Commission has received a list of revised conditions during the meeting that they have not had the opportunity to review. He indicated that he feels the project should be continued but will first give the Commissioners a chance to speak. Commissioner Barnes said the ideal situation would be to have all roads built and connections made prior to the first house being built. He said he is concerned about the traffic. He indicated that he would like to see a condition added that would monitor the traffic situation throughout the development of Phase I by requiring biannual traffic analysis. He further indicated that he concurs with Chairman Wilsey in the fact that the Planning Commission should have more time in reviewing the revised conditions. Chairman Wilsey asked Rick Goacher to address the concerns about water retention/water quality and traffic mitigation expressed by the public. Chairman Wilsey indicated that previously he had concerns about Diamond Drive but that after talking to Mr. Goacher his concerns were alleviated. Mr. Goacher explained the future planned freeway interchanges and overpasses. He further explained that Liberty will being surrounded by a major arterial with local streets branching through the development. Chairman Wilsey further clarified that Diamond Drive is not meant to be the major arterial. Commissioner Barnes said this is a project that has been in the planning stages for years and is not being pushed through the approval process. Commissioner Barnes indicated it is a well planned and thought out process. He asked Mr. Goacher to explain for the public what he meant by reduced density. Mr. Goacher indicated that approximately 1,200 dwelling units along with some reduction in commercial area were lost because of the increased open space. This has caused a reduction in traffic counts. Commissioner Polk stated that last week he expressed his concern about traffic control in the case of an emergency. Commissioner Polk indicated he did his own study after talking to Mr. Goacher and he was happy to report that the proposed circulation should not pose a liability in an emergency situation. PAGE 7 -PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES -JULY 7, 1999 Mary Lynn Coffee outlined the protections in place that would protect the houses from flooding. These protections are also outlined in the special conditions. She indicated that, as land is build up to accommodate structures, other acreage is dug out so the capacity to store water is the same. She noted that although the waterways may look different, the ability to retain water is the same. Commissioner Barnes asked Rick Goacher about any plans that may affect the airport. Rick Goacher indicated that he does not know of any plans that will effect the airport. Commissioner Matthies asked about the specific plans regarding the continuance of Diamond Drive to Bundy Canyon and the location of the actual roadway. Rick Goacher indicated that this extension has not changed since previously approved. Mary Lynn Coffee indicated that nothing has changed since SPA 1. Commissioner Sands reiterated that the property rights of the 28.4 acres will remain with the City and that the Conservation Easement will only give the Corp of Engineers "visitation rights" Commissioner Sands indicated that he sees no problems with designating Diamond Drive as a collector highway when the circulation pattern for the entire project is taken into consideration. Commissioner Sands felt that Condition #24 should be removed. He indicated that the City Council should have final approval on tract maps, not the Fire District. Commissioner Polk asked if additional parking is being constructed for the Stadium. Chairman Wilsey indicated that the additional lot was graded for fire purposes only, not for additional parking. Mr. Jackson indicated that parking was not the problem, getting out of the parking lot was the issue. Chairman Wilsey noted that parking at the stadium is not part of the project being discussed tonight. Mary Lynn Coffee indicated that Liberty Founders is a managing member of Diamond Stadium and thus has an interest in making sure that there is plenty of parking. Rick Goacher noted that the parking at the stadium was mentioned in the 10 points given to staff. He stated that peak hour for special events are non-peak hours for Diamond Drive. He noted that the Traffic Engineer has included as a condition that traffic control plans be submitted for future major events. Chairman Wilsey indicated that he believes that this meeting should be continued to a future date to discuss the revised conditions. Community Development Director Brady noted that staff and the City Attorney has had a chance to review the amended conditions and staff is prepared to go through the conditions if the Planning Commission so desires. The Commission concurred to continue the meeting after a short break. Chairman Wilsey recessed the meeting at 8:50 pm. Chairman Wilsey reconvened the meting at 9:05 pm. John McClendon, City Attorney, reviewed the amendments to the Conditions of Approval as presented by the applicant and revised by the City Attorney. After going through the previous revisions, Mr. McClendon suggested that the condition requested by Commissioner be inserted as Condition #8. MOVED BY MATTHIES, SECONDED BY POLK AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO RECOMMEND TO THE CITY COUNCIL CERTIFICATION OF SUBSEQUENT MITIGATED NEGATIVE DECLARATION N0.99-3, APPROVAL OF GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT NO. 98-4, LIBERTY SPECIFIC PLAN AMENDMENT N0.2, AND APPROVAL OF "A" TENTATIVE TRACT MAP NO.28766 BY ADOPTION OF RESOLUTION NO 99-4 BASED ON THE FINDINGS WITHIN THE STAFF REPORT AND THE REVISED CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL AS LISTED BELOW: PLANNING DIVISION 1. The Draft Liberty Specific Plan Amendment No. 2 shall be revised to incorporate any corrections and changes required by the Planning Commission and City Council. A PAGE 8 -PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES -JULY 7, 1999 Final Liberty Specific Plan Amendment No. 2 document shall be submitted for review and approval by the Community Development Director or designee within 30 days of approval by the City Council. No buildin permit shall be issued until the Liberty Specific Plan Amendment No. 2 document and any required revisions are administratively approved by the Community Development Director or designee. 2. Those issues, standards, guidelines, etc. not addressed in the East Lake Specific Plan, as amended by Liberty Specific Plan Amendment Nos. 1 and 2, or vested or Txed by the 1993 East Lake Development Agreement (as maybe amendedj, will revert to the City Municipal Code in effect at the time applications for future projects are deemed complete. 3. Those conditions of approvals established with the 1993 East Lake Specific Plan 4and~~ 1998 Liberty Specific Plan Amendment No. 1 4p~ejec~, and Liberty Specific Plan Amendment No. 2, shall continue to be in full force and effect as set forth in the Conditions Matrix attached as Appendix B to the Liberty Specific Plan Amendment No. 2. 4. Prior to approval of each "B" Tentative Tract Map, the Applicant shall provide the City with a Detailed Phasing, Improvement, and Financing Plan. Said Plan shall describe all on- and off-site roadway and utility improvements and public services necessary to accommodate buildout of that particular Tentative Tract Map and phase. Said Plan shall also describe when the improvements and public services will be provided, how they will be maintained, and recommend feasible funding mechanisms and sources. 5. Prior to or concurrent with each "B" Tentative Tract Map application, plans for internal local roadways and accesses shall be submitted to the Community Development Director. The application shall include a site plan showing lot lines, building lines, on- and off-street parking, curb cuts, and parkway landscape plans in sufficient detail to allow the Community Development Director to evaluate the function of the street and to reasonably assure that it will provide acceptable levels of service and risk. The Community Development Director shall review said plans and approve, conditionally approve or disapprove the application prior to the first public hearing on the "B" Tentative Tract Map to which the intemal local roadways and accesses aze proposed to apply. The decision of the Community Development Director shall be fmal ten days from the date of the decision unless an appeal has been filed with the Planning Commission in accordance with the provisions of Section 9.3.4, Appeals, of the 1993 East Lake Specific Plan, or unless the Planning Commission and/or City Council overrule the decision as a part of the review and approval, conditional approval or denial of the "B" Tentative Tract Map application. 6. The Applicant shall provide all project-related onsite and offsite improvements as described in the Liberty Specific Plan Amendment No. 2 document. 7. The Applicant shall implement those mitigation measures identified in the Mitigation Monitoring Program adopted with the Final East Lake Specific Plan Environmental Impact Report No. 98-2, Liberty Specific Plan Amendment No. 1 Addendum, and Liberty Specific Plan Amendment No. 2 Subsequent Mitigated Negative Declazation No. 99-3. >pf.uv n ,. n4,...«..«4:4, ...«..«4.. .. d. e..n n~~,:.. n,n,n ~ ..«4.. ......,. «,....... ..C .,......,..««.....4 .. R4,... L`....4 v¢i , , ~,,° c~,.n;~n D,°~ Throughout the develoament and sale of homes in Phase 1. the Applicant shall conduct bi-annual traffic analyses. subject to the review and approval of the Citv Engineer, in order to monitor traffic impacts of the Liberty Phase 1 project to the existing local streets in the vicinity of Phase 1 and the Diamond Drive/I-15 connection. If an analysis indicates traffic conditions exceeding level of service authorized by the 1993 East Lake Specific Plan EIR. PAGE 9 -PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES -JULY 7, 1999 then the Applicant shall contribute, on a fair share basis, taking into account existing conditions and cumulative background traffic growth, to the construction of the intersection improvements identified as Phase 2 improvements in the 1993 East Lake Specific Plan EIR and determined to be necessary by the additional traffic analysis. 9. Prior to Phase II development of the ELSP, the Applicant shall conduct additional traffic analyses, subject to review and approval of the City Engineer, to evaluate the ELSP circulation system constructed at that time, and to determine if additional design options are warranted. If additional design options are determined to be warranted by the City Engineer, the traffic analyses shall also evaluate the circulation implications of the additional design options. Based upon the additional traffic analyses, the City shall select the most feasible design option based on its ability to offset any potential significant congestion impacts. These design options include abut are not limited toj the following: • Widen Mission Trail to eight lanes from Diamond Drive to Lemon. • Widen or realign other roadways within the ELSP Phase II area to relieve areas identified in the traffic analyses as significantly congested. 10. Future "B" Tentative Tract Maps shall be designed in accordance with the following: • All circulation improvements, including (without limitation) road widths, roundabouts, turning movements, sight distance, and approach widths will be designed to ensure fire safety and emergency access as determined by City staff and City Council in accordance with Section IV.C.3.b. of the East Lake Specific Plan Amendment One and in consultation with the Riverside County Fire Department. Prior to consideration of a tentative tract map application, the City shall consult with the Riverside County Fire Department and the Department shall review the application and provide findings supported by substantial evidence to the City concerning its recommendation of the proposed street design. The City shall deny the tentative tract map application if the County's findings demonstrate substantial adverse environmental impacts with respect to fire safety and emergency access. • Alternative Class II bikeway routes shall be identified on future "B" Tentative Tract Maps. Said alternative bikeway routes are required to offset the elimination of the proposed Class II bikeway along Diamond Drive as a result of the proposed GPA No. 98-4. 11. Taking into account all arrangements between and among the City, the Applicant and the Redevelopment Agency, prior to issuance of the first building permit, the Applicant shall participate in a Cost Recovery Program or make other arrangements with the City to offset the annual negative fiscal impacts of the project on public safety and maintenance issues in the City, including regional improvements and facilities relating to fire and police protection, and maintenance of roadways, etc. 12. Section 5.3.10 of the 1993 East Lake Specific Plan is amended to read as follows: "The operation and maintenance of Fire Station(s) in East Lake shall be provided through the City General Fund or other District/Agency, or through the Applicant's ~~~~'~~~ contractual obligation to contribute its fair share based upon the project's negative fiscal impacts on fire services." 13. Prior to the issuance of any grading permits, the Applicant shall submit a final grading plan, subject to all requirements of the City Grading Ordinance to the City Engineer for approval. Said grading plan shall address those grading standards and guidelines contained in the Liberty Specific Plan Amendment No. 2 document, the Liberty Specific Plan Amendment No. 1, and 1993 East Lake Specific Plan. PAGE 10 -PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES -JULY 7, 1999 14. Prior to issuance of building pemrit, the Applicant shall submit a letter of verification (will-serve letter) to the City Engineer, for all required utility services. 16. All future proposals shall be reviewed by the City on aproject-by-project basis. If determined legallX necessary by the ~Cc :,m•,;:.ity r,n.,,.,,.«-~..„, r,:..,,na,... ,.- desigsee~ City Attorney, additional environmental analysis will be required. 17. Prior to issuance of first building permit, the affected landowner or developer shall be required to demonstrate compliance with State law relating to school impact mitigation. ENGINEERING DIVISION 18. Approval of "A" Tentative Tract Map 28766 is for financing and sale purposes only. No building permit <cr;,;st-••n«:,.„ °n*:°:«.•'° °••«,.,.w.,..,,~ shall be issued for lots established by this "A" Tentative Tract Map<. 1?repert}~ `vim "•n ""~-s until the Applicant has applied for approval of a "B" Tentative Tract Map r.:.,..., ....,, ,,,...,.:..b „ate nn*:.•:«.. ,.« «r.n n,.r,:nn. situ. As part of its review of the "B" Tentative Tract Map, the City can require amendment to the "A" Tentative Tract Map, if the "B" Tentative Tract Map creates design and/or development problems. 19. <$-efS If the proposed alignment of Diamond Drive results in the loss of an rking spaces in Lot C, the Applicant shall ~scq;;irc spa ~~-°~~-•n ° «n..'.:,.,. °:*n n ~..nnti.... n n«4nt.ln iv iiii `:4.. L'«..:«n..r ___ _ ____.____ _=__r._..._ provide replacementparking_of equivalent quality and parking capacity ~cf thn n°'..«:«,. nna_:«.. r ,., ~ ,.:«,. ~ prior to grading permit. Applicant shall take such action as is required ,wag nn~ninc*-i nn_,.....,. «,.,..,:an c w r, r.~,n ni«n,....n«:..n «n_v:,,.. n:.n c _ .w,. Perlein~Iret~~tato satisfy this condition. including (without limitation), acquisition and improvement_of replacement parkins maces for the Lot C arking spaces lost. 20. Street sections on the "A" Tentative Tract Map shall show parking lanes as eight feet wide. 21. H and K Streets as shown on the "A" Tentative Tract Map shall be 38 feet wide curb-to-curb. 22. The acquisition ofright-of--way for the roundabout offsite on Malaga Road shall be in compliance and meet the requirements of the Disposition and Development Agreement between the RDA and the Applicant. 23. Intersection site distance shall meet the design criteria of the CALTRANS Design Manual (particular attention should be taken for intersections on the inside of curves). If site distance is obstructed, a special limited use easement must be recorded to limit the slope, type of landscaping and wall placement. As shown on the "A" Tentative Tract Map, intersections on the inside of curves are F Street and M Street, F Street and C Street, F Street and L Street, and J Street and H Street. 24. ~_~=u.vu4_ ti A_ .... ««A .. Y4 a}.4~ k~ 41.e (':4.. err nl.n L`1..:«..r` v. .w urn:..«... ~b_ µb.. ..._ ~..~ . i....~ i......v u.bu ~. tr nr,rn i c c~ n~m~ prior to recordation of a Final Map Applicant shall comply with the requirements of LEMC 16.52.030. 25. All parcels shall have access to public right-of--way or be provided a minimum 30 ft. ingress-egress easement for public right-of--way purposes to be recorded with the map or by separate instrument. PAGE 11-PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES -JULY 7, 1999 26. Applicant shall provide an appropriate bond for monumentation, unless sufficient survey information exists on filed maps to locate and retrace the exterior boundary lines of the tract map. 27. All open space and slopes except for public parks and schools and flood control district facilities ~ outside the publicright-of--way will be owned and maintained by ~~~''-~« '~~-~~~~~-°«'~~ a homeowners' association, an appropriate conservation agency, or private property owner. GENERAL CONDITIONS 28. The Applicant shall defend (with counsel acceptable to the City), indemnify, and hold harmless the City, its officials, officers, employees, and agents from any claim, action, or proceeding against the City, its officials, officers, employees, or agents to attach, set aside, void, or annul an approval of the City, its advisory agencies, appeals boards, or legislative body concerning the D1°~ "-~~~a-~~~' T,T~ ' ~ Liberty Specific Plan Amendment No. 2, General Plan . , Amendment No. 98-4, "A" Tentative Tract Map No. 28766, T«.~..,.a D,.~..«a F « al... L'....s T ..L., C~,.,.: F. ,. Dl,.~ A .7,7......7....... C .- T ;1....-F.. 0..,...: F.,. D7..,. 0 ^...,.~.,.~..~` T.T~ ' ~ and Mitigated Negative Declaration No. 99-3 for Liberty . , Specific Plan Amendment No. 2, which action is brought within the time period provided for in California Government Code Sections 65009 and/or 66499.37, and Public Resources Code Section 21167. The City will promptly notify the Applicant of any such claim, action, or proceeding against the City and will cooperate fully in the defense. If the City fails to promptly notify the Applicant of any such claim, action, or proceeding, the Applicant shall not, thereafter, be responsible to defend, indemnify, or hold harmless the City. Chairman Wilsey recessed the meeting at 9:25 pm. Chairman Wilsey reconvened the meeting at 9:35 pm. ADJOURNED TO DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE The Planning Commission adjourned to the Design Review Committee at 9:35 p.m. The Planning Commission reconvened at 9:42 p.m. INFORMATIONAL STAFF COMMENTS No comments. PLANNING COMMISSIONER'S COMMENTS Commissioner Matthies -Commented on the Following: Commissioner Matthies indicated that she received a letter from a resident on Kellogg Street. She read the letter to the Commission. The letter described the terrible conditions of the property next door and requested that the City take the necessary steps. Community Development Director Brady indicated that he will refer this matter to Code Enforcement. Commissioner Matthies also congratulated Senior Planner Villa on his new daughter and thanked staff for their years of hard work with the Liberty project. PAGE 12 -PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES -JULY 7, 1999 Commissioner Bames -Commented on the Following: Commissioner Barnes asked the status of the Service Station on Graham. He said it is hard to see if there is any progress taking place. Community Development Director Brady said the project is moving forward, although it is a slow process. Commissioner Sands -Commented on the Following: Commissioner Sands thanked Associate Planner Miller for writing the letters to the owners of property with barbed wire and chain link fencing along Main Street and for writing letters regarding two non-conforming signs within the downtown area. Commissioner Polk -Commented on the Following: Commissioner Polk indicated that he feels the Liberty proj ect will drive the clean-up effort of the Lake. He indicated that the Liberty plan is sound and environmentally sensitive. Chairman Wilsey -Commented on the Following: Chainnan Wilsey asked that staff work on the guidelines for food vending carts for the downtown area. He indicated that he felt if the carts are done properly, they will be a nice addition to the area. ADJOURNMENT MOVED BY BARNES, SECONDED BY POLK AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO ADJOURN THE REGULAR PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING AT 9:50 PM. Respectfully Submitted onika Hennin s, Community Development Secretary ~tobert A. Brady; Secretar~to Planning Commission MINUTES PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING August 4,1999 The Regular Planning Commission Meeting was called to order at 7:00 pm by Chairman Wilsey. The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Commissioner Polk. ROLL CALL PRESENT: COMMISSIONERS: WILSEY, SANDS, BARNES, POLK, AND MATTHIES ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE Also present were: Community Development Director Brady and Community Development Secretary Hennings. PUBLIC COMMENTS There being no request to speak, the Public Comments section was closed. CONSENT CALENDAR Chairman Wilsey indicated that on page 2, the corrected Condition of Approval #6, for Minor Design Review M 99-3, should haue included the following phrase: "subject to agreement by the applicant and the Community Development Director". MOVED BY SANDS, SECONDED BY MATTHIES AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO APPROVE THE CONSENT WITH THE ABOVE CORRECTION. Minutes a. Planning Commission Regular Meeting of July 7, 1999 BUSINESS ITEMS 2. Variance No. 99-7 and Si Program for "Lake Elsinore Ford" at 31450 Casino Drive Community Development Director Brady indicated that this is an application for a Sign Program for Lake Elsinore Ford. He noted that a Variance is needed for the height and size of the Freeway Identification Sign and for the height of the Business Identification Sign on Casino Drive. Community Development Director Brady noted that Lake Chevrolet also required a Variance for their Freeway Identification Sign. He indicated that the additional height is being requested to help compensate for the difference in height between the proposed site and the freeway. Community Development Director Brady continued to explain that the size of the Freeway Identification Sign is similar to the Lake Chevrolet sign, with Lake Chevrolet having a 50% increase over what the Sign Ordinance allows and Ford requesting a 64% increase. Community Development Director outlined the Sign Program including the wall signs and the Business Identification Sign. Community Development Director Brady indicated that Staff fmds the requests acceptable. Chairman Wilsey opened the public hearing at 7:06 pm. There being no request to speak, Chairman Wilsey closed the public hearing at 7:07 pm. Commissioner Matthies indicated that she finds no problem with the Variances and finds the request justifiable. PAGE 2 -PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES -AUGUST 4, 1999 Commissioner Sands indicated that his concern was the illumination and the effect it may have on the neighbors. Mr. Frank Johnson, The Automotive Group, indicated that the orientation of the building is the same as Lake Chevrolet, although Lake Chevrolet sits higher. He further stated that the letters give off a blue hue, not a bright light. Commissioner Barnes indicated he has no comments regarding the application, but he did request that the following corrections be made to the staff report. The first sentence on page 3, under "Environmental", should read "...Categorically Exempt...". The second line on page 3, under "Recommendation", should read "...two freestanding signs and approve the proposed..." Commissioner Polk asked what the height difference was between the Lake Chevrolet Freeway Identification Sign and the Lake Elsinore Ford Sign. Community Development Director Brady indicated that the heights will be very similar. Mr. Johnson indicated that the additional height is needed since the site elevation is lower than the freeway elevation. He further stated that the sign he is proposing is comparable in size to the Lake Chevrolet sign. He indicated that the next smaller sign would be dwazfed. Mr. Johnson explained that the signs must be approved by Ford and they only come in specified sizes. Chairman Wilsey indicated that he has some of the same concerns as the other Commissioners, although he stated he is also thinking about other Variances for Freeway Identification Signs that staff recently opposed. Commissioner Barnes indicated that the Chairman is right and that a maximum Variance should be set. He suggested that Lake Elsinore Ford not exceed the 50% increase that was previously approved for Lake Chevrolet. Mr. Johnson reiterated that the signs are standard Ford signs and he has limited choices in size and only two choices for height. MOVED BY BARNES, SECONDED BY MATTHIES AND APPROVED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE TO LIMIT THE SIZE VARIANCE OF THE FREEWAY IDENTIFICATION SIGN TO A 50% INCREASE AND TO APPROVE THE HEIGHT VARIANCES AND THE SIGN PROGRAM. ADJOURNED TO DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE The Planning Commission adjourned to the Design Review Committee at 7:25 pm. The Planning Commission reconvened at 7:26 pm. INFORMATIONAL STAFF COMMENTS Community Development Director Brady commented on the following_ • He indicated that he was pleased to report that the two signs in the Historic District that were not in compliance have been removed. • He noted that The Town Group had requested that the City Council continue the Public Hearing for the Liberty Specific Plan Amendment No. 2. to August 10, 1999. • He stated that there will be a Joint Study Session with the City Council, Planning Commission, and Elsinore Valley Municipal Water District on August 12, 1999. (Subsequent to the Planning Commission Meeting, the .loin Study Session was rescheduled to September 2, 1999.) • He indicated that the system that ReWater Systems is proposing for Torn Ranch is currently allowed under code, although it must be installed prior to the houses being built. He further explained the system and how it utilizes a houses gray PAGE 3 -PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES -AUGUST 4, 1999 water. He indicated that this type of system will cut down on the homeowners water bill. PLANNING COMMISSIONER'S COMMENTS Chairman Wilsey commented on the following • He indicated that he is excited about the use of recycled water. He stated that more people need to learn to conserve. • He complemented the City on their great job of removing the graffiti throughout the City. Commissioner Matthies commented on the followine: • She stated that the Planning Commission needs to work more closely with the City Council. She indicated that an opportunity to do this is at the League of Cities conference that will be held later this year. • She thanked Carol Gordon for acting on the complaint that she reported at the last meeting. • She indicated that she was told that children are using the vacant K-Mart building for a skateboarding course. Community Development Director Brady stated that he would report this to Code Enforcement. Commissioner Barnes commented on the followine: • He asked for the progress of the AM/PM on Graham Street. Community Development Director Brady stated that the project is slow but it is moving forward. Commissioner Sands commented on the followine: • He complemented Associate Planner Miller on getting the signs removed in the Historic District. ADJOURNMENT MOVED BY SANDS, SECONDED BY BARNES AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO ADJOURN THE REGULAR PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING AT 7:38 PM. Respectfully Submitted J /`~ / ~ onika Henning, Community Development Secretary ATTEST: Robert A. Brady, 5ecretary~o the Planning Commission // MINUTES PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING August 18,1999 The Regular Planning Commission Meeting was called to order at 7:00 pm by Chairman Wilsey. The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Commissioner Barnes. ROLL CALL PRESENT: COMMISSIONERS: WILSEY, SANDS, BARNES, POLK, AND MATTHIES ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE Also present were: Community Development Director Brady, City Engineer O'Donnell, Senior Planner Villa, and Community Development Secretary Hennings. PUBLIC COMMENTS There being no request to speak, the Public Comments section was closed. CONSENT CALENDAR MOVED BY SANDS, SECONDED BY BARNES AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THO5E PRESENT TO APPROVE THE CONSENT WITH THE ABOVE CORRECTION. Minutes a. Planning Commission Regular Meeting of August 4, 1999. PUBLIC HEARINGS 2. Tentative Parcel Maro No. 29325 and Industrial Project No. 99-4, Proposed Collier Avenue Business Park (APN 377-120-016) Community Development Director Brady indicated that this is an application for approval of a Tentative Parcel Map (TPM) and an Industrial Project that is located on the west side of Collier Avenue between Riverside Drive and Central Avenue. He further noted that the Redevelopment Agency has a previous agreement with the property owner for public improvements and the relocation of the power poles and that funds have been budgeted for these improvements. He asked that Senior Planner Villa review the project with the Commission. Senior Planner Villa indicated that the project includes the review of TPM 29325 and Industrial Project No. 99-4. He stated that the applicant is proposing to subdivide approximately 10 acres into 11 parcels ranging in size from approximately one-half acre to approximately two acres. Senior Planner Villa indicated that there will be two letter lots for public right-of--way purposes: one for the eventual widening of Collier Avenue and the other for a future public cul-de-sac street for access to the business park. Senior Planner Villa indicated that the applicant is asking for review and consideration of the site plan for all 11 buildings including the parking lots, landscaping, and construction improvements. He noted that the construction will take place in three phases and that at this time the applicant is requesting Design Review consideration for only Phase 1, which includes buildings 2, 3, and 5. He stated that the applicant would be required to bring the Design Review for the remaining phases back before the Planning Commission. PAGE 2 -PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES -AUGUST 18, 1999 Senior Planner Villa indicated that the proposal generally meets all development regulations of the Zoning Code. The one issue that needs Planning Commission consideration is regarding the Floor Area Ration (FAR). The General Plan allows a maximum of 40% FAR within the Business Park Land Use Classification. Some of the buildings within the proposed project will slightly exceed this limit, although the average FAR for the complex is approximately 37%. Senior Planner Villa indicated that the applicant is requesting consideration to be allowed to exceed the maximum FAR for a few of the buildings in light of the fact that the overall FAR will not be exceeded for the project. Senior Planner Villa stated that Staff is recommending that the Planning Commission recommend to the City Council approval of TPM 29325 and Industrial Project No. 99-4 based on the findings and exhibits and subject to the Conditions of Approval. Chairman Wilsey opened the Pubic Hearing at 7:08 pm. Mr. Dave Wakefield, 42346 Rio Nedo, Suite L, Temecula, CA, indicated that he represents Hunco Development and Dekkon Development. He first thanked staff for their help and indicated that he is very excited about the project. He further explained the phasing and indicated that he concurred with the proposed Conditions of Approval. There being no further comments, Chairman Wilsey closed the Public Hearing at 7:10 pm. Commissioner Polk noted that he had concerns about the relocation of the power poles until Community Development Director Brady explained about the agreement. He commended staff on the quality of the staff report and environmental studies. Commissioner Bames indicated that Condition #30 is vague. He asked is it is known if Collier Avenue will need to be widened for the left-turn pocket. Mr. Wakefield indicated that this still needs to be decided by Caltrans. City Engineer O'Donnell indicated that he is relatively sure that Caltrans will require alert-turn pocket although it is not clear if the street will need to be widened. Commissioner Barnes asked Mr. Wakefield if he would be able to comply with Condition #36. Mr. Wakefield indicated that the Hydrology Study indicated that the drainage will be contained on site, therefore he stated that letters would not be needed from the adjacent property owners. City Engineer O'Donnell stated that Condition #36 related to the individual parcels within the project. City Engineer O'Donnell suggested that Condition #36 be changed to read: "Individual lot drainage within the parcel map shall be conveyed to a public facility or as approved by the City Engineer." Commissioner Barnes noted that the adjacent street should be Enterprise Way not Industrial Center Way as Enterprise Way is the current dedicated street. Senior Planner Villa concurred. Commissioner Matthies indicated that her questions have been addressed. Commissioner Sands indicated that he does not think the request regarding the FAR is out of line as the project as a whole does not exceed the requirements. He asked City Engineer O'Donnell for clarification on Condition #20. City Engineer O'Donnell indicated this strip is on the west side of Collier Avenue and is meant for the ultimate widening of Collier Avenue. Commissioner Sands asked if the widening will effect the Cemetery. City Engineer O'Donnell indicated that any widening will take place within the right-of--way. Community Development Director Brady indicated that on page 13 of the staff report, the two Engineering Division conditions should be numbers 20 and 21. Commissioner Barnes asked if the requirements regarding downspouts have been changed as he was under the impression that downspouts were required to be interior and PAGE 3 -PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES -AUGUST 18, 1999 must discharge into landscaped areas. Senior Planner Villa indicated that staff tries to require this on Commercial buildings, but it is difficult to require interior downspouts on Industrial Projects as many are tilt-up buildings. He indicated staff will try to work with the architect regarding the downspouts. He stated that a Condition will be added to require that downspouts drain into landscaped areas. Chairman Wilsey indicated that the wording "subject to Caltrans approval" should be added to Condition #30. MOVED BY MATTHIES, SECONDED BY BARNES AND APPROVED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE TO RECOMMEND TO THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL OF TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP NO. 29325 AND INDUSTRIAL PROJECT NO. 99-4 BASED ON THE FINDINGS AND EXHIBITS AND SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL WITH THE FOLLOWING CORRECTIONS TO THE CONDITIONS: CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL FOR TPM N0.29325 30. THE APPLICANT SHALL PROVIDE A STRIPED LEFT-TURN POCKET ON COLLIER AVENUE FOR VEHICLES TURNING ONTO THE PROJECT STREET. THE PAVEMENT ON THE EAST SIDE OF COLLIER AVENUE MAY NEED TO BE WIDENED TO ACCOMMODATE THE LEFT-TURN POCKET, SUBJECT TO CALTRANS APPROVAL. 36. INDIVIDUAL LOT DRAINAGE WITHIN THE PARCEL MAP SHALL BE CONVEYED TO A PUBLIC FACILITY OR "n~i,nmcT[ Dv AiTTAnL'ArT i DPD~D~Y !T[[I1~TTi DC~ TJV A T T,TTL~D /[T DD A Tl[T A !'~T' A rrT,DT A 1[T!`~Ti /[D AS APPROVED BY THE CITY ENGINEER. CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL FOR I 99-4 i$. 20. ALL PUBLIC WORKS REQUIREMENTS SHALL BE COMPLIED WITH AS A CONDITION OF DEVELOPMENT AS SPECIFIED IN THE LAKE ELSINORE MUNICIPAL CODE (LEMC) PRIOR TO BUILDING PERMIT. ~9. 21. INDUSTRIAL PROJECT I99-4 SHALL BE REQUIRED TO COMPLY WITH ALL APPLICABLE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL FOR PARCEL MAP 29325 PRIOR TO BUILDING PERMIT ISSUANCE. 22. ALL DOWNSPOUTS SHALL DISCHARGE TO LANDSCAPED AREAS. ADJOURNED TO DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE The Planning Commission adjourned to the Design Review Committee at 7:23 pm. The Planning Commission reconvened at 7:24 pm. INFORMATIONAL STAFF COMMENTS Communi , Development Director Brady commented on the following_ • He indicated that the EDC luncheon will be on September 9, 1999, please RSVP with the City Manager's office. • He noted that the League of Cities conference is on October 10-12, 1999, please RSVP with either the Community Development Secretary or the City Clerk. PLANNING COMMISSIONER'S COMMENTS PAGE 4 -PLANNING COMMISSION MINLITES -AUGUST 18, 1999 Commissioner Barnes commented on the following: • He asked that staff review the downspout requirements. • He noted he was glad to see the streets paved on the north side of Hwy 74 by Strickland. Commissioner Pollc commented on the following: • He asked for clarification regarding the agreement between the property owner and the Redevelopment Agency. Community Development Director indicated that agreement was entered into approximately 10 years ago and is for road improvements and the relocation of the poles directly in front of the subject property. Commissioner Matthies commented on the following: • Commended staff on a job well done. Chairman Wilsey commented on the following: • He indicated the League Conference is an excellent opportunity and encouraged all to attend. • He noted he will be out of town from August 27 to September 20, 1999. ADJOURNMENT MOVED BY POLK, SECONDED BY MATTHIES AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO ADJOURN THE REGULAR PLANNING COMMiSSiON MF.F,TiN(: AT 735 PM_ Respectfully Submitted onika Hennings, Community Development Secretary ATTEST: ~ ~ ~v Brady, ecreta to the Commission MINUTES PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING September 1,1999 The Regular Planning Commission Meeting was called to order at 7:00 pm by Acting Chairman Barnes. The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Commissioner Matthies. ROLL CALL PRESENT: COMMISSIONERS: BARNES, SANDS, POLK, AND MATTHIES ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: WILSEY Also present were: Community Development Director Brady, City Engineer O'Donnell, Associate Planner Miller, and Community Development Secretary Hennings. PUBLIC COMMENTS There being no request to speak, the Public Comments section was closed. CONSENT CALENDAR Commissioner Sands inquired if the Commissioners agreed with the revision to Condition #30 on Page 3. The Cormissioners concurred that the revision is correct. MOVED BY POLK, SECONDED BY MATTHIES AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR. 1. Minutes a. Planning Commission Regular Meeting of August 18, 1999. PUBLIC HEARINGS 2. Tentative Tract Map No. 29304 (APN 387-110-011. 012, 018. 019. & 020 and 387-120- 001 & 386-100-0071 Community Development Director Brady indicated that this is an application for approval of a Tentative Tract Map (TTM) totaling approximately 14.9 acres. The proposal is to subdivide this property into 54 single-family homes. He asked that Associate Planner Miller review the project with the Commission. Associate Planner Miller indicated that there are a few corrections to the Conditions of Approval. She requested that a statement be added to Condition #10 which would prevent construction activity to take place on Saturday, Sunday, or any Legal Holidays. She noted that Condition #17 should reference Highway 74 not Highway 4. Associate Planner Miller also requested that Condition #27 and #28 not reference a specific utility company but rather state the "serving gas utility" or "serving telephone utility". Associate Planner Miller requested that the third sentence of Condition #61 be revised to read "The applicant shall submit a letter..." Lastly she asked that Condition #68 be amended to read as following: "Trabuco Road's southerly terminus in the tract shall end with anoff--set cul-de-sac, if the applicant cannot obtain an agreement with the neighboring property owner for anoff-site cul-de-sac. The off-set cul-de- sac shall be constructed, per Riverside County standards, at the end of Trabuco Avenue using the front portions of Lot 24 and Lot 25, per Engineering Division approval." PAGE 2 -PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES -SEPTEMBER 1, 1999 Associate Planner Miller indicated that the applicant is proposing to subdivide approximately 15 acres into 54 single-family residential lots. She stated that the front 10 acres (APN 386-100-001 & 007 and 387-110-011 & 012) of the proposed tract was originally approved as Tentative Tract Map No. 24618 by the City Council on February 27, 1990. She noted that the map expired on February 27, 1997 after all available Time Extensions were used. Associate Planner Miller indicated that the gross density of the proposed project will be approximately 3.62 dwelling units per acre (du/ac) with the smallest lot being 7,099 s.f. and the largest 13,334 s.f. for an overall gross average lot size of 9,087 s.f. She outlined some of the project concerns that came up during review of the project: grading, fire mitigation plan, noise levels, traffic signal requirements, and secondary access requirements. She noted that all initial. concerns that staff raised have either been resolved by project redesigning or by incorporating Conditions of Approval on the project. Associate Planner Miller indicated that staff is recommending that the Planning Commission recommend to the City Council approval of the proposed prof ect. Acting Chairman Barnes opened the Public Hearing at 7:10 pm. David Smothers, 33140 Trabuco Drive, indicated that he is glad to see that the remainder of the adjoining land will be developed. He noted that he hopes the developer will maintain the general architectural design scheme so that it blends with the existing houses. He further stated that he is glad to see that the developer will not be permitted to work on weekends or holidays. Mr. Smothers stated that his only request is that the developer be required to include a small neighborhood park in the development. He noted that there are no neighborhood parks in the surrounding area and this forces the children to play in the street. The applicant, Don Lohr of Lohr + Associates indicated that he believes that the proposal is a good design. He noted his only concern was the cul-de-sac design and this has been addressed in the revised Condition #68. There being no further public comments, Acting Chairman Barnes closed the Public Hearing at 7:13 pm. Commissioner Sands asked the applicant if he has thought about providing a park. Mr. Lohr indicated that this is a small project for a park. He also mentioned that the City may not want the responsibility of another park. Commissioner Sands questioned the size of the smallest lot in the Map. Mr. Lohr indicated that the Tentative Tract Map has been revised and the smallest lot is now 7,250 s.f. Commissioner Sands confirmed that the project will be entirely surrounded by a block wall. Mr. Lohr concurred. Commissioner Matthies asked for clarification of the issue regarding grading and "downward" slopes. Associate Planner Miller stated that the original submittal had some downward slopes exposed to Highway 74. She noted that staff is against this kind of slope as the fencing will be typically placed at the top of the slope and this leaves an exposed slope that will most likely not be maintained. She stated that staff worked with the project engineer to improve the grading and eliminate these problem areas Commissioner Pollc requested the location of the prior Tract Map No. 24618. Associate Planner Miller indicated that TTM No. 24618 is shown as Exhibit 'A'. Commissioner Polk indicated that he thought Caltrans may still require traffic signals. City Engineer O'Donnell stated that the Signal Warrant Study indicated that a traffic signal is not needed at this time. He fiirther stated that the applicant will pay a pro rata share that will be held until a signal is warranted. Acting Chairman Barnes stated that in Condition #17, he would like to remove the reference to Designee. He stated that the Community Development Director needs to determine the appropriate height of the wall. Acting Chairman Barnes inquired about PAGE 3 -PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES -SEPTEMBER 1, 1999 Condition #37. City Engineer O'Donnell indicated that the applicant will be required to work with Caltrans in regards to the additional right-of--way dedication. He stated he will try to make sure that the extension is a logical continuation of the existing roadway. Commissioner Sands asked if there will be a left turn lane from Macy Street. City Engineer O'Donnell indicated that the developer is not required to make any improvements to Highway 74. Commissioner Matthies clarified for Mr. Smothers that the applicant will be required to bring the project back for Design Review prior to any construction. She stated that it is at that time that the Commission can look at the architectural design of the homes. MOVED BY MATTHIES, SECONDED BY SANDS AND APPROVED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO RECOMMEND TO THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL OF TENTATIVE TRACT MAP NO. 29304 AND MITIGATED NEGATIVE DECLARATION NO. 99-5 BASED ON THE FINDINGS AND EXHIBITS AND SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL WITH THE FOLLOWING CORRECTIONS TO THE CONDITIONS: 10. THE CITY'S NOISE ORDINANCE SHALL BE MET DURING ALL ON SITE PREPARATION ACTIVITY. CONSTRUCTION SHALL NOT COMMENCE BEFORE 7:00 A.M. AND CEASE AT 5:00 P.M., MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY. CONSTRUCTION ACTIVITY SHALL NOT TAKE PLACE ON SATURDAY, SUNDAY, OR ANYLEGAL HOLIDAYS. 17. THE APPLICANTA SHALL CONDUCT A NOISE STUDY FOR THE LOTS ALONG HIGHWAY T 74, ORTEGA HIGHWAY PRIOR TO BUILDING PERMITS. THE OUTCOME OF THAT STUDY WILL DETERMINE THE HEIGHT REQUIREMENT FOR THE WALL ALONG THE ORTEGA HIGHWAY BOUNDARY LINE. THIS WALL HEIGHT WILL REQUIRE APPROVAL BY THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR 9R ~. 27. THE APPLICANT SHALL MEET ALL THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE SERVING GAS UTILITY. 28. THE APPLICANT SHALL MEET ALL THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE SERVING TELEPHONE UTILITY. 61. APPLICANT MUST SUBMIT A CONDITIONAL LETTER OF MAP REVISION (CLOMR) PREPARED BY HIS ENGINEER OF WORK TO FEMA PRIOR TO ISSUANCE OF BUILDING PERMITS. THE CLOMR MUST BE APPROVED BY FEMA PRIOR TO THE TENTH CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY. THE APPLICANT SHALL SH88bB SUBMIT A LETTER OF MAP REVISION (LOMR) PREPARED BY HIS ENGINEER OF WORK TO FEMA IF FEASIBLE PRIOR TO THE LAST CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY OR CONTRIBUTE $4,000 FOR THE PREPARATION OF A LETTER OF MAP REVISION FOR FEMA IN THE FUTURE. 68. TRABUCO ROAD #~ SOUTHERLY TERMINUS IN THE TRACT SHALL END WITH AN OFF-SET CUL-DE-SAC, IF THE APPLICANT CANNOT OBTAIN AN AGREEMENT WITH THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTY OWNER FOR AN OFF-SITE CUL-DE-SAC. THE OFF-SET CUL DE-SAC SHALL BE CONSTRUCTED PER RIVERSIDE COUNTY STANDARDS AT THE END OF TRABUCO AVENUE USING THE FRONT PORTIONS OF LOT 24 AND LOT 25, PER ENGINEERING DIVISIONAPPROVAL. PAGE 4 -PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES -SEPTEMBER 1, 1999 ADJOURNED TO DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE The Planning Commission adjourned to the Design Review Committee at 7:27 pm. The Planning Commission reconvened at 7:30 pm. INFORMATIONAL STAFF COMMENTS Communi Development Director Brady commented on the followine: • He indicated that the Joint Study Session with the City Council /Planning Commission and Elsinore Valley Municipal Water District Board will be tomorrow, September 2, at 10:00 am at the Cultural Center. PLANNING COMMISSIONER'S COMMENTS Commissioner Polk commented on the followine: • He asked that staff look at the possibility of requiring a park in TTM 29304. Commissioner Sands commented on the followine: • No comments. Commissioner Matthies commented on the followine: • She indicated that she was looking forward to the League of Califonua Cities conference. Actine Chairman Barnes commented on the following • No comments. ADJOURNMENT MOVED BY SANDS, SECONDED BY POLK AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO ADJOURN THE REGULAR PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING AT 7:32 PM. Respectfully Submitted ~Ionika Hennin s, Community Development Secretary ATTEST: MINUTES PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING September 15,1999 The Regular Planning Commission Meeting was called to order at 7:00 pm by Acting Chairman Barnes. The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Commissioner Sands. ROLL CALL PRESENT: COMMISSIONERS: BARNES, SANDS, POLK, AND MATTHIES ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: WILSEY Also present were: Community Development Director Brady, City Engineer O'Donnell, Senior Planner Villa, Associate Planner Miller, and Community Development Secretary Hennings. PUBLIC COMMENTS There being no request to speak, the Public Comments section was closed. CONSENT CALENDAR MOVED BY SANDS, SECONDED BY POLK AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR. 1. Minutes a. Planning Commission Regular Meeting of September 1, 1999. PUBLIC HEARINGS 2. Vesting Tentative Tract Man No. 23848-13. Amendment No. 1 and Minor Design Review for Residential Project No. 99-4. Pardee Construction Acting Chairman Barnes excused himself from the deliberations for this agenda item. He turned the Chair over to Commissioner Sands. Acting Chairman Barnes left the room. Community Development Director Brady indicated that this is an application for approval of a Vesting Tentative Tract Map (VTTM) and Minor Design Review for a residential project within the Cottonwood Hills Specific Plan area. He indicated that there are 45 single-family lots on approximately 12 acres. He asked that Senior Planner Villa review the project with the Commission. Senior Planner Villa indicated that Pardee Construction Company is proposing to amend the previously approved Vesting Tentative Tract Map No. 23848-13. He noted that the map was first. approved in October 1989 by the City Council. Senior Planner Villa indicated that the original approval was for one approximately 12-acre parcel of land which would allow up to 216 multi-family units. He stated that the applicant is now requesting an amendment to this map and is proposing to subdivide the approximately 12-acre parcel into 45 single-family residential lots and three lettered lots. Senior Planner Villa indicated that this plan is permissible under the Specific Plan. Senior Planner Villa indicated that the proposed density is approximately 3.75 dwelling units per acre. He noted that the smallest lot is approximately 5,200 square feet and the largest lot is approximately 15,000 square feet. He stated that the Tract Map has an average lot size of approximately 7,200 square feet. Senior Planner Villa stated that the applicant is also requesting Minor Design Review fora 3 unit Model Home Complex and PAGE 2 -PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES -SEPTEMBER 15, 1999 associated residential development. He indicated that the homes will range in size from approximately 2,600 s.f. for Plan 1, 2,780 s.f. for Plan 2, and 3,255 s.f. for Plan 3. Senior Planner Villa indicated that the project meets all applicable Zoning Ordinance standards and is in compliance with the Cottonwood Hills Specific Plan. Senior Planner indicated that staff is recommending the Planning Commission recommend approval of VTTM No. 23848-13, Amendment No. 1 and Residential Project No. 99-4 to the City Council. Senior Planner Villa indicated that the applicant has requested a few changes to the Conditions of Approval. Senior Planner outlined the recommended changes for Conditions 8, 21, 26, 47, 56, 63, 69, 70, 74, and 77. Acting Chairman Sands opened the Public Hearing at 7:11 pm. Mr. Jim Stringer, Pardee Construction Company, indicated that they agree with the Conditions as amended by Senior Planner Villa. There being no further public comments, Acting Chairman Sands closed the Public Hearing at 7:12 pm. Commissioner Matthies asked that Conditions 16, 17, 18, 19, and 76 be amended so that a specific utility company is not named, but rather just the type of public utility. She indicated that this was discussed at the last meeting and asked if some of the above Conditions could be rewritten so as to not name a specific company. Community Development Director Brady indicated that Conditions 17, 18, and 19 could be changed but that 16 and 76 should remain as presented. Commissioner Polk noted that he was concerned about deleting Condition #77. Community Development Director Brady indicated that this issue is covered by the existing Development Agreement. Acting Chairman Sands commented that he wants to be sure the applicant follows through with the requirements as stated in Condition #57. Acting Chairman Sands noted that he counted eight fire hydrants. Mr. Stringer stated that he was not sure of the exact number but that eight hydrants sounded right. Acting Chairman Sands asked the applicant how many phases until complete buildout. Mr. Stringer indicated that Pardee Construction usually builds in increments of 10-20 houses but may have several projects being built at the same time. Mr. Stringer said there might be 30-40 phases with approximately 25-30 separate tracts. He said there will be approximately 3500 dwelling units, primarily single family homes. Acting Chairman Sands said a major concern of his is the landscaping between the sidewalk and the curb within the street right-of--way. He asked who would be responsible to maintain this landscaping. Mr. Stringer indicated that this landscaping will be maintained by either a Lighting and Landscaping Maintenance District or a Homeowners Association. Senior Planner Villa indicated that on local streets, the homeowner will maintain this area of landscaping between the sidewalk and curb. Acting Chairman Sands recommended that the plans be revised showing the sidewalk directly behind the curb and thus eliminating the parkway. City Engineer O'Donnell indicated that this is an allowed street section. Senior Planner Villa indicated that the Specific Plan does allow this street section and he further noted that it enhances the streetscape. MOVED BY MATTHIES, SECONDED BY POLK AND APPROVED BY A 3-1 VOTE WITH BARNES ABSTAINING AND WILSEY ABSENT TO RECOMMEND TO THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL OF VESTING TENTATIVE TRACT MAP NO. 23848-13 AND RESIDENTIAL PROJECT NO. 99-4 BASED ON THE FINDINGS AND EXHIBITS AND SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL WITH THE FOLLOWING CORRECTIONS TO THE CONDITIONS: PAGE 3 -PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES -SEPTEMBER 15, 1999 VESTING TENTATIVE TRACT MAP N0.23848-13, AMENDMENT ONE 8. PAY ALL APPLICABLE FEES INCLUDING PARK FEES TAT ~n~-vRr~r ~ AS STATED IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT PRIOR TO ISSUANCE OF BUILDING PERMITS. 22. IF A HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION IS TO BE ESTABLISHED, IT SHALL MANAGE AND IMPOSE FEES TO MAINTAIN ALL SLOPES OR COMMON AREAS, OPEN SPACE (LETTERED LOTS A, B, AND C), PRIVATE DRAINAGE FACILITIES, FIREBREAKS, HABITAT AREAS, PRIVATE RECREATIONAL FACILITIES AND GROUNDS, PRIVATE STREETS AND ANY OTHER COMMON AMENITIES. THIS ASSOCIATION SHALL BE ESTABLISHED SUBJECT TO CURRENT STATE LAWS AND BE SUBJECT TO THE APPROVAL OF THE CITY ATTORNEY AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR WHO SHALL REVIEW ALL CC & R'S AND RULES FOR THEIR ADEQUACY AND COMPLETENESS. THE CITY ATTORNEY SHALL REVIEW CC & R'S, HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION DOCUMENTS AND ALL DOCUMENTS TO CONVEY TITLE TO THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION. 27. A ROD IRON FENCE, DECORATIVE BLOCK OR MASONRY WALL MINIMUM SIX (6') FEET IN HEIGHT MEASURED AT THE HIGHEST GRADE SHALL BE CONSTRUCTED AROUND THE PERIMETER OF THE SUBDIVISION. PRECISE DESIGN, MATERIALS, AND LOCATION TO BE DETERMINED THROUGH THE DESIGN REVIEW PROCESS. 47. PROVIDE FIRE PROTECTION FACILITIES AS REQUIRED IN WRITING BY RIVERSIDE COUNTY FIRE AND PURSUANT TO THE APPROVED DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. 56. INDIVIDUAL LOT DRAINAGE SHALL BE CONVEYED TO A PUBLIC FACILITY OR ACCEPTED BY ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS BY A LETTER OF DRAINAGE ACCEPTANCE OR CONVEYED TO A DRAINAGE EASEMENT. SURFACE RUNOFF FROM LOT 47 B MUST BE ACCEPTED BY ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNER 63. $~Vt~,~bls DRIVABLE ACCESS SHALL BE PROVIDED FOR MAINTENANCE TO THE DETENTION BASIN ADJACENT TO LOT 15. 69. LOCAL STREETS AND CUL-DE-SACS SHALL HAVE A MINIMUM 8F ~~ .,~.~~ ~ ~.,.,~ ~. ~~..,~.~ ~. Tv inns 1,T nrTDD Tn IIAtJL` A 1~QTATTI~.TTT1~R nt, A FIFTY-5IX (56) FT. RIGHT-OF-WAY WITH THIRTY-SIX (36) FT. CURB-TO-CURB. 70. COTTONWOOD HILLS ROAD SHALL BE IMPROVED AS SPECIFIED IN THE C_A L'Ti TV DDTAD Tn TIITi L~TDCT /'~L`DTTTTl~ A TTi nT n/'~l'~T TD A N!'~~~ LETTER FROM CITY DATED MARCH 30, 1999 WHICH STATES IN PART "THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE WILL REQUIRE THE INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS FOR EACH PHASE TO BE COMPLETED PRIOR TO THE OCCUPANCY OF THE FIRST PRODUCTION UNIT IN THE RESPECTIVE PHASE. THE PHASING OF THE ROAD IMPROVEMENTS FOR COTTONWOOD HILLS ROAD AND LOST ROAD ARE APPROVED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE EXHIBIT ATTACHED TO THE LETTER SENT BY MICHAEL A. MEDOFER OF PROJECT DESIGN CONSULTANTS TO RAY O'DONNELL DATED MARCH 29,1999. " PAGE 4 -PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES -SEPTEMBER 15, 1999 74. THE OPEN SPACE LOTS A, B, AND C OF THE TRACT SHALL BE MAINTAINED BY A HOMEOWNER'S ASSOCIATION. THE OPEN SPACE LOTS ADJACENT TO LARGE OPEN SPACE AREA SHALL BE DESIGNATED AS A FUEL MODIFICATION ZONE FOR A FIREBREAK TO BE MAINTAINED BY A HOMEOWNER'S ASSOCIATION. 77. DELETE. Acting Chairman Barnes returned to meeting. BUSINESS ITEMS None. ADJOURNED TO DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE The Planning Commission adjourned to the Design Review Committee at 7:24 pm. The Planning Commission reconvened at 7:35 pm. INFORMATIONAL Acting Chairman Barnes noted that on October 21 there will be a meeting on the Riverside County Integrated Plan and asked if staff is planning on attending. Community Development Director Brady stated that staff is tentatively scheduled to attend. STAFF COMMENTS Communi Development Director Brady commented on the following; • He noted that the Dekkon Development industrial project was approved by the City Council. • He reminded the Commissioners that the Riverside Philharmonic will be at McVicker Park on Saturday, September 18. PLANNING COMMISSIONER'S COMMENTS Commissioner Matthies commented on the followine: • Thanked staff for a great packet. Commissioner Sands commented on the followine: • No comments. Commissioner Polk commented on the followine: • He complemented staff on the packet and indicated that he was happy to see a new clothing store on Main Street. • He noted that the original Conditions of Approval for Vesting Tentative Tract Map No. 23848 states that the applicant is to provide turn-key public parks. He asked when these would be required. Senior Planner Villa indicated that the applicant does not have to provide the park until the 300`h home although this does not preclude them from providing it earlier. Commissioner Polk indicated that he would like to see developers start providing at least pocket parks, which are virtually maintenance fee, so that the young kids have a place to play. PAGE 5 -PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES -SEPTEMBER 15, 1999 Acting Chairman Barnes commented on the following: • He commented that it would be nice to start seeing service station garage bays toward the reaz so that they are not visible from the street. • He asked for an update on the landscaping for Summerhill Drive. Community Development Director Brady indicated that the design is near completion and it appears that the maintenance may be resolved at least for the near future. ADJOURNMENT MOVED BY SANDS, SECONDED BY POLK AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO ADJOURN THE REGULAR PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING AT 7:45 PM. Respectfully Submitted onika Hennings, ommunity Development Secretary ATTEST: A. Brady, Secretary ~6 the iQ Commission / MINUTES PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING October 6,1999 The Regular Planning Commission Meeting was called to order at 7:00 pm by Chairman Wilsey. The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Commissioner Matthies. ROLL CALL PRESENT: COMMISSIONERS: WILSEY, BARNES, SANDS, AND MATTHIES ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: POLK Also present were: Community Development Director Brady, Associate Planner Miller, and Community Development Secretary Hennings. PUBLIC COMMENTS There being no request to speak, the Public Comments section was closed. CONSENT CALENDAR MOVED BY SANDS, SECONDED BY MATTHIES AND CARRIED BY A 3-1 VOTE WITH WILSEY ABSTAINING AND POLK ABSENT TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR. 1. Minutes a. Planning Commission Regular Meeting of September 15, 1999. PUBLIC HEARINGS 2. Conditional Use Permit No. 99-10 for Lake Elsinore First United Methodist Church located at 31620 Casino Drive. Unit F (APN 363-130-042) Community Development Director Brady indicated that this is an application for approval of a Conditional Use Permit for a church in a commercial retail center located at 31620 Casino Drive. He asked that Associate Planner Miller review the project with the Commission. Associate Planner Miller indicated that she had one minor addition to the staff report. She requested that the Commission make the following correction to the last sentence of page 1: "...32 parking spaces (including 2 handicap spaces) located..." Associate Planner Miller indicated that this is a request for a Conditional Use Permit for a church to be located within a C-2 (General Commercial) zone and to request approval of a Reciprocal Parking and Access Agreement between the Plaza Del Sol center, Travel Inn motel and the Lake Elsinore First United Methodist Church. The applicant is requesting approval of the Conditional Use Permit for 5 years. Associate Planner Miller indicated that the church use will occupy 2,160 square feet of a 9,600 square foot commercial center use. She indicated that there were two issues that came up: Land Use and Parking. Associate Planner Miller indicated that the City has determined that church uses are not the best use for commercial centers because of the economic under-utilization of the center and over-utilization of the parking spaces available. Associate Planner Miller indicated that the center is vacant except for one other use. She stated that staff is requesting that the applicant provide evidence of a Reciprocal Parking and Access Agreement as required by Condition # 3. Associate PAGE 2 -PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES -OCTOBER 6, 1999 Planner Miller further indicated that staff is recommending that the Commission consider approving a Conditional Use Permit for 2 years with three 1 year extensions if the church demonstrates that a new church facility is progressing toward development and an increase in the center's occupancy has not caused a shortage of parking. Chairman Wilsey opened the Public Hearing at 7:05 pm. Mr. David McGlocklin stated that Lake Elsinore First United Methodist Church has been meeting in the City of Lake Elsinore for approximately 115 years. He indicated that the church has an interest in some land on Hwy 74. Mr. McGlocklin indicated that the church is waiting for some growth in that area before building a new facility. There being no further public comments, Chairman Wilsey closed the Public Hearing at 7:10 pm. Commissioner Matthies clarified that there would be no cost when requesting the extensions. Associate Planner Miller indicated that this was correct. Commissioner Matthies asked if the applicant had any problems with the conditions. Mr. McGlocklin indicated that they were fine with the conditions. Commissioner Sands inquired if the applicant had obtained the Reciprocal Access Agreement. Mr. McGlocklin indicated that the agreement has not been signed as the owner of the property is out of the country. He indicated that there should not be a problem with getting it signed. Commissioner Sands inquired if the church will be utilizing the tot lot. Mr. McGlocklin indicated that the adjacent property owner owns that lot. Commissioner Sands requested that staff contact this other owner to clean up this lot. Commissioner Barnes concurred with the other Commissioners. Chairman Wilsey concurred with the other Commissions but suggested that the Conditional Use Permit be approved for a period of 3 years with two 1-year extensions. He indicated that two years is not long enough to build the new facility. The Commissioners concurred with this change. MOVED BY MATTHIES, SECONDED BY BARNES AND APPROVED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO APPROVE CONDITIONS USE PERMIT NO.99-10 WITH THE CHANGE TO CONDITION # 2 BASED ON THE FINDINGS AND EXHIBITS AND SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL. BUSINESS ITEMS 3. Request for uo to Six Additional Short-Term Temporary Use Permits Per Year for Wal- Mart Located at 31700 Graoe Street, M 99-10. Community Development Brady indicated that this is a request for additional temporary uses in relation to a specific use within the community. He asked that Associate Planner Miller review this request with the Commission. Associate Planner Miller indicated that Wal-Mart has requested six additional temporary use permits, which includes used car sales and RV sales. She noted that a percentage of the sales are donated to Wal-Mart's favorite charity, Children's Miracle Network. Associate Planner Miller stated that Wal-Mart's upper parking lot offers a unique location for this type of event. Associate Planner Miller indicated that staff is requesting that the Planning Commission approve Wal-Mart's request of six additional temporary use permits. Commissioner Sands inquired who receives the revenue from the permits. Community Development Director Brady indicated that the City keeps the actual permit fee. In addition to this, a percentage of the sales is donated to a charity and the City receives the sales tax dollars. PAGE 3 -PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES -OCTOBER 6, 1999 Commissioner Barnes asked if Wal-Mart is required to get approval for each sale. Community Development Director indicated that each Temporary Use Permit is approved separately. Associate Planner Miller also commented that the permits have been updated and the City is very restrictive in what it allows. She stated that inflatables are not allowed and that each sale can only have one banner. Chairman Wilsey inquired about the mechanism that assures the City receives the sales tax monies. Community Development Director Brady indicated that a business license is required and thus the City is able to tract that the sales tax is received. Chairman Wilsey noted that the City does benefit as these sales generate quite a bit of sales tax. Community Development Director Brady indicated that this is not a blanket approval and would not effect any business other than Wal-Mart. He stated that Wal-Mart has plenty of parking and there is a minimal impact on the surrounding businesses. He noted that the City also takes into consideration the effect this may have on other businesses elsewhere in the City, such as the auto dealerships. Commissioner Bames asked if sanitation facilities are required at these events. Community Development Brady indicated that this is not a requirement at this time but that staff can look into the issue and discuss it with the applicant. Chairman Wilsey indicated that the city has an opportunity to take advantage of a unique situation. Community Development Director Brady indicated that he would like to look at providing a permanent site for a recreational vehicle sales dealership in the City. MOVED BY SANDS, SECONDED BY MATTHIES AND APPROVED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO APPROVE UP TO SIX ADDITIONAL SHORT TERM TEMPORARY USE PERMITS FOR WAL-MART SUBJECT TO THE ATTACHED CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL. ADJOURNED TO DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE The Planning Commission adjourned to the Design Review Committee at 7:22 pm. The Planning Commission reconvened at 7:23 pm. INFORMATIONAL STAFF COMMENTS Community Development Director Brady commented on the following_ • He noted that the groundbreaking for the new Fire Station will be tomorrow, October 7, 1999 at 3:00 pm at McVicker Park. • He indicated that the next City Council Meeting, scheduled for October 12, 1999, will most likely be canceled due to a lack of quorum. PLANNING COMMISSIONER'S COMMENTS Chairman Wilsey commented on the following_ • He stated that the signal at Riverside is wonderful. • He also noted that Machado Street turned out beautiful. Commissioner Sands commented on the followine: • Requested that Code Enforcement address the Strawberry Stand at Riverside and Collier. He noted that it is covered in graffiti. Community Development Director Brady indicated that Code Enforcement is aware of the situation. PAGE 4 -PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES -OCTOBER 6, 1999 • He asked what the plans are for the vacant lot next to the Travel Inn and Ford dealership. Community Development Director indicated Ford is planning on using it for storage of inventory. He indicated that the lot will be improved with grading and fencing, etc. Commissioner Bames commented on the followine: • He indicated that both gas stations in the downtown area are starting to look good. • He asked the status of the Ford Dealership. Community Development Director indicated that the intent is to be open early 2000. Commissioner Matthies commented on the followine: • She indicated that she will be out of town from December 11, 1999 to January 8, 2000. ADJOURNMENT MOVED BY BARNES, SECONDED BY SANDS AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO ADJOURN THE REGULAR PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING AT 7:32 PM. ~-, ~ O / ~ _ Respectfully Submitted v ~^' ~ ~-------'_, onika Hennings, ommunity Development Secretary ATTEST: U(' "'^i ~ obert A. Brady, Sec etary to the Planning Commissi n MINUTES PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING October 20,1999 The Regular Planning Commission Meeting was called to order at 7:00 pm by Chairman Wilsey. The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Commissioner Polk. ROLL CALL PRESENT: COMMISSIONERS: WILSEY, BARNES, SANDS, MATTHIES, AND POLK ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: Also present were: Community Development Director Brady, City Engineer O'Donnell, Senior Planner Villa, Associate Planner Miller, and Community Development Secretary Hennings. PUBLIC COMMENTS There being no request to speak, the Public Comments section was closed. CONSENT CALENDAR 1. None. PUBLIC HEARINGS 2. Conditional Use Permit No. 98-5 and Design Review Misc. No. 99-6 "Lamb's Fellowship Church" Community Development Director Brady indicated that this is an application for approval of a Conditional Use Permit and Design Review for a church to be located on Railroad Canyon Road. He asked that Senior Planner Villa review the project with the Commission. Senior Planner Villa indicated that this is a request for approval of a Conditional Use Permit and Design Review to construct and operate a church on Railroad Canyon Road within the Canyon Creek Specific Plan Area. He noted that the 10-acre site is located just east of the intersection of Railroad Canyon Road and Grape Street. He noted that the site borders the San Jacinto River and is adjacent to an EVMWD water facility. Senior Planner Villa indicated that the project proposes two phases. He stated that the 6,600 squaze foot education building which houses classrooms, offices, and a multi- purpose room will be constructed during the first phase along with most of the landscaping and street improvements and the second phase will include construction of the 8,710 square foot sanctuary will is designed to seat approximately 420 people. He noted that the proposal also includes a pazking lot with 239 parking spaces, an outdoor amphitheater facility and a ball field. Senior Planner Villa indicated that several issues were identified while reviewing the project. He stated that the most important concern is location of the proposed median turn pocket. He stated that the Traffic Engineer identified potential sight distance problems and the City Engineer has recommended that a traffic signal be required. Senior Planner Villa indicated that the other issues included potential flooding and excess noise. He noted that the applicant obtained a letter from the County Flood Control District, which indicated that the project should not be impacted by any flooding. Senior PAGE 2 -PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES -OCTOBER 20, 1999 Planner Villa indicated that as the site is in the residential zone, staff is recommending that sound amplification devices not be used at the outdoor amphitheater. Senior Planner Villa indicated overall the project has been found acceptable and in compliance with the Canyon Creek Specific Plan. He stated that staff recommends the Planning Commission approve Conditional Use Permit No. 98-5 and recommend to the City Council approval of Miscellaneous Design Review No. 99-6 based on the Findings, Exhibits and subject to the Conditions of Approval. Chairman Wilsey opened the Public Hearing at 7:05 pm. Pastor Jack Warford, First Southern Baptist Church, 32990 Mesa Drive, stated that he is concerned about the restrictions regarding amplification and sound system for the amphitheater. He stated that he hopes that Lamb's Fellowship is given the same consideration as any other business. He noted that there are other facilities in town that make much more noise, such as the Diamond Stadium, motocross, and the proposed racetrack. He stated that a sound system is necessary in an amphitheater that may sit as many as 1,200 people. Pastor Gary Enniss, Lamb's Fellowship, 701 Limited, stated that he is concerned about the condition which does not allow a public address system or any other kind of amplified sound device. He said that the church was hoping to have a community Sunrise Service. He said this would not be possible if a sound system was not allowed. He said other family events that were discussed would be limited if a sound system was not allowed. Pastor Enniss indicated that he was also surprised by the restriction of hours. He said the church occasionally holds all night prayer meetings that would not be allowed under the proposed conditions. Mr. Anthony Polo, Avalon Consultants, PO Box 2497, Temecula, indicated that several years ago, when Tract 20472 was approved, the median break was constructed at the existing location. He stated that he hoped to be able to utilize this same break to save money but the break is in a dangerous location, not at the crest of the hill, and thus the median was relocated. Mr. Polo indicated that Condition #2 indicates the hours of operation. He noted that this is not a requirement of a City ordinance and it would limit the project greatly. He said that Lamb's Fellowship will be a good neighbor but the hours place unnecessary restrictions of them. He asked that Condition #2 be deleted. Mr. Polo stated that Conditions #4 and #8 require that the Youth Barn and Sign Program be brought back before the Commission while Condition #16 allows the Community Development Director to approve the lighting plan. He asked that Conditions #4 and #8 be revised to state that the Community Development Director may approve the Youth Barn and Sign Program. Mr. Polo indicated that Condition #5 address the public address system. He noted that the closest future residence will be approximately 700 feet from the amphitheater. He stated that Condition #17 indicated that the applicant must comply with Section 17.78 of the Noise Ordinance. He asked that Condition #5 be deleted and mentioned that the church will be glad to comply with Condition #17. Mr. Polo mentioned that Condition #21 requires submittal of water and sewer plans to EVMWD. He noted that later in the staff report there is a letter from Riverside County Health Department which indicates a septic system may be permitted. Mr. Polo indicated that he would like to leave the option of a septic system open, as it will be expensive to cross the creek to connect to the sewer. Mr. Polo stated that Condition #30 requires submittal of Landscape Plan Check Fees equal to the Consultant's fee plus 40%. He requested that this fee be based on time and materials as the church is on a tight budget. Mr. Polo also stated that Condition #30 (a) requires the entire site have an automatic sprinkler system. He stated that the church PAGE 3 -PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES -OCTOBER 20, 1999 would like to leave much of the land as native non-irrigated. He stated that it would be very expensive to landscape the entire 10 acres. Mr. Polo stated that Condition #40 deals with the underground water rights. He indicated that he was under the understanding that EVMWD wanted the water rights. Mr. Polo said the last Condition, #64, deals with the traffic signal. He indicated that the cost of the traffic signal, including the relocation of the break in the median, will be approximately $150,000. Mr. Polo stated that the results of the traffic study did not indicate that a signal was necessary. He noted that he has discussed this issue with the City Engineer and agrees with the City Engineer that cars making a left turn into the parking lot will have sight restrictions due to the dips in the road. Mr. Polo stated that there will be acceleration and deceleration lanes for those cars that are arriving and leaving. He stated that the church can not afford a traffic signal at this time, but they would be willing to agree to the restriction that no left turns be allowed into the parking lot. Cars that need to go that direction would need to make a U-turn at the intersection of Grape and Railroad Canyon Road. Mr. Polo stated that there are currently only 70 people who attend Lamb's Fellowship with a total of approximately 23 cars. Mr. Polo said the church would be willing to discuss the traffic signal requirement when they come back for approval of the second phase. Sr. George Garcia indicated he is concerned about the restriction on sound amplification. He asked from what point is the 40-decibel restriction taken. Senior Planner stated the restriction is from the property line. Mr. Garcia indicated that sound dissipates and to say no amplification allowed when no one knows what the sounds levels will be at the property line is wrong. There being no further public comments, Chairman Wilsey closed the Public Hearing at 7:25 pm. Commissioner Barnes asked for the time schedule for the construction of the Youth Barn. Mr. Polo stated that the plans provided in the packets were not the most up to date plans. He said the amphitheater will be in the first phase and the Youth Barn will be in the second or third phase. Commissioner Barnes asked how many events will take place in the amphitheater per year. Mr. Polo stated that there is no set dates or events. He said the purpose of amphitheater is to enjoy a beautiful day and move services outside. He said it will also be used occasionally for Sunrise Services. Commissioner Barnes stated that he is concerned about nighttime use of the amphitheater and the noise generated. He asked Senior Planner Villa how close the nearest house in Cornerstone will be to the amphitheater. Senior Planner Villa stated that at build-out, Cornerstone will be approximately 1,000 feet away up the hill. Commissioner Barnes also stated that the site is surrounded by hills and he is also concerned about the echo factor. Senior Planner Villa stated that staff took the topography of the surrounding area into consideration when making the recommendation to restrict the use of sound amplification devises. He further stated that churches are allowed in the residential zone, but only with a Conditional Use Permit so that the adjacent residences are not disturbed. Commissioner Barnes stated that the difference between this facility and the other facilities mentioned earlier in the meeting is that this facility is located in a residential zone. Commissioner Polk indicated that by design an amphitheater amplifies sound naturally. He indicated that he agreed with the other comments that a sound system in the amphitheater may disturb the surrounding residences. Commissioner Polk also noted that he sees no problem with the Community Development Director approving the Youth Barn and Sign Program (Conditions #4 and #8). Commissioner Polk indicated he understands that money is tight but that the Commission must look forward at the projected population growth and increased traffic along Railroad Canyon Road when considering the traffic signal issue. PAGE 4 -PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES -OCTOBER 20, 1999 Commissioner Matthies asked Community Development Director Brady if it is possible for Conditions #4 and #8 to be brought to the Director. Community Development Director Brady stated that it would be possible but that it would be up to the Planning Commission if they want to forgo a public review. Chairman Wilsey indicated if that is done, a precedent would be set. Commissioner Matthies indicated that she would not like to see the hours of operation limited with the exception of the hours for the amphitheater. She asked if a noise study was done. She said she would like to find out if they would be able to use a small amount of amplification without disturbing the neighbors. Senior Planner Villa indicated that a study has not been done. Commissioner Matthies said she would hate to say no to amplification without knowing the results of a noise study. Chairman Wilsey indicated that this is a major venue amphitheater that could seat 1,200 people. He said that an event could generate 600 cars. He said that he does not want to see the use of amplification in a residential area. Commissioner Matthies asked if a septic system would be allowed. Senior Planner Villa stated that Condition #21 is a standard condition and a letter needs to be obtained from EVMWD. Commissioner Barnes stated that his concern is that the City has been trying to get rid of the existing septic systems. He said he is not comfortable with a septic that close to the river. Chairman Wilsey asked if a sewer lines runs along Raihoad Canyon Road. Commissioner Barnes stated that the church would have to connect on the other side of the river. Chairman Wilsey stated that the applicant needs to get together with EVMWD and discuss the options. Commissioner Matthies stated she wanted to continue to address the applicants concerns. She asked about the requirements of Condition #30 (a). Chairman Wilsey stated that the condition states a landscape plan needs to be submitted to the City's consultant to review. The condition states that the only area that need to be irrigated are the planted areas. Senior Planner Villa stated that there are options, the applicant needs to meet with the City's landscape consultant. Commissioner Sands indicated he would not have a problem with the Youth Bam being reviewed by the Community Development Director but he would like to see the Sign Program brought back before the Planning Commission. Commissioner Sands asked the applicant if he performs baptisms and he does not see this on the plans. Pastor Enniss stated that all baptisms are performed at the lake. Commissioner Sands asked if there will be caretaker quarters on site for the full-time caretaker. Mr. Polo indicated the caretaker would not be housed on site. Commissioner Sands stated that the Signal Warrant Study is outdated and that the traffic counts have increased. He stressed that the recommendations of the City Engineer should be followed and that he feels a traffic signal is a must. Chairman Wilsey indicated that he feels the restricted hours of operation as stated in Condition #2 were intended for full groups. He stated that he felt there could be an exemption for small groups. Senior Planner Villa reiterated that this is a church within a residential zone. He also noted that these are the hours that were submitted by the applicant during the submittal. Mr. Polo indicated that the church has thought of some exemptions since the submittal such as the Sunrise Services and the prayer groups and thought these groups would be limited to approximately 20 persons. Commissioner Polk recommended that the condition be changed to state the hours of normal operations but then state that there maybe exceptions for small groups. Senior Planner Villa suggested the church could obtain a Special Activity Permit for off-hour events. Commissioner Barnes indicated that indoor activities should not be restricted. Mr. Polo stated he has worked on other projects within the city and he is aware of the City's Noise Ordinance. He noted that activities should not be restricted up to the 40- decibel limit. He also stated that if the City receives complaints, they could then limit outside events to no amplification. PAGE 5 -PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES -OCTOBER 20, 1999 Chairman Wilsey stated that he sees a major problem will a 1,200-seat amphitheater sitting in the bottom of a bowl within a residential area using a sound system. He indicated he would like to see a noise study as he is concerned there will be a problem with the surrounding residences within Tuscany Hills. Commissioner Barnes asked for the timeline of the construction of the amphitheater. Mr. Polo indicated that it is planned to be constructed with the first phase. Commissioner Barnes stated he would like to suggest that it be put on hold and brought back before the Commission along with the second phase as he would like to see a noise study and a plan showing where it is to be located. Mr. Polo indicated that a noise study will just state that the church must not go above 40 decibels. Commissioner Barnes indicated that he is concerned 40 decibels may still be objectionable in a residential area. Mr. Polo stated he believes the amphitheater will hold closer to 600 people, not 1,200. He indicated there will only be a large crowd a couple of times a year for a sunrise service. The other times would be just a regular service. There was further discussion relating to the Noise Study. The Commissioners concurred with the idea of having the applicant come back at a later date for approval of the amphitheater after plans are available and a noise study is conducted. Chairman Wilsey asked the City Engineer for his input in regards to the traffic signal. City Engineer O'Donnell indicated that he has discussed this issue in great length with the applicant. He indicated that there is a proposed residential development directly across Railroad Canyon. He noted that this is why the median opening was placed in the existing location. He indicated that it was the applicant's idea to move this opening. City Engineer O'Donnell noted that the traffic signal is not warranted by volume but rather by safety issues. He noted that the applicant just approached staff tonight about restricting traffic to allow right turn in, right turn out only. He stated he needs to go to the site to check if there is a site distance restriction on left turns. City Engineer O'Donnell indicated the other issue is the future development across Railroad Canyon. He said once that is built there will definitely need to be a traffic signal. He indicated he felt the Church should be required to pay half the cost once the signal is warranted. Chairman Wilsey asked if the City Engineer felt Condition #64 could be revised to read what is needed, whether the design the applicant has recommended or the traffic signal. City Engineer O'Donnell indicated he would be able to come up with a revised condition for the City Council. Community Development Director suggested leaving the condition as stated and let the applicant bring up the issue to the City Council. He reiterated that the City Engineer has not had a chance to review the applicant's proposal. There was discussion that the plans the Commission has show two entrances to the church when the new proposal is recommending just one entrance. It seemed that the Commission did not receive the most up to date plans. Commissioner Matthies asked about Condition #40 regarding the water rights. City Engineer O'Donnell noted that the condition should read "City or designee". Commissioner Matthies stated she does not have a problem with the amphitheater if the noise level is not above that allowed by the City. She indicated that she would like to see a noise study and the revised plans. Chairman Wilsey asked Mr. Polo if he would mind putting the amphitheater on hold until phase 2. Mr. Polo said he would not mind except for the fact that the dirt is need for the construction of the church. He mentioned that he would not mind being conditioned to conduct a noise study. Commissioner Barnes stated he would like to continue this hearing to give the applicant time to provide a current set of plans. This will also give staff time to go through these conditions with the applicant. MOVED BY BARNES, SECONDED BY POLK AND APPROVED BY AN UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO CONTINUE THIS HEARING UNTIL THE NOVEMBER 3,1999 PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING. Chairman Wilsey recessed the meeting at 8:30 pm. Chairman Wilsey reconvened the meeting at 8:35 pm. PAGE 6 -PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES -OCTOBER 20; 1999 3. Conditional Use Permit No. 99-8 and Minor Design Review, M 99-4, of a Personal Communication S s~(PCSI Facility at 17425 Baker Street (APN 378-020-0391 Community Development Director Brady indicated this is a request for a Personal Communication Facility. He asked Associate Planner Miller to review this project with the Commission. Associate Planner Miller indicated that this is a proposal for a Wireless Communication Service Facility to be located at 17425 Baker Street in an area of predominately vacant land with some scattered single family homes. The project proposes to share athree-acre parcel with a single family residence. She noted that the applicant was previously approved for a similar project at the EVMWD water tank site just west of this proposed location. This other project was never built, as an access agreement was never established. Associate Planner Miller indicated that the applicant currently has a "dead zone" in service because this facility was never constructed. She explained the coverage diagrams submitted by the applicant. Associate Planner Miller indicated the project proposes a 75' monopole with six ground supports all contained within a 960 square foot area. The area will be enclosed within asix-foot block wall with appropriate landscaping to screen the facility. Associate Planner Miller indicated that staff is aware of the directive by the Planning Commission to establish a monopole ordinance prior to bringing another monopole before the Commission, however since a moratorium was not established staff was required to bring this project before the Commission. Associate Planner Miller indicated that staff did reseazch on the previously approved monopoles and this information is outlined within the staff report. Associate Planner Miller indicated that staff feels the main issue is the height of 75'. She indicated that the M-1 zone allows a maximum height of 40'. She indicated that staff understands that the applicant will have a "dead area" without the proposed facility (along with the facility proposed on Lake Street) and staff further understands that the Telecommunications Act of 1996 stated that the local zoning authority "shall not unreasonably discriminate among providers..." Associate Planner Miller noted that staff is recommending that the Planning Commission consider the request for Conditional Use Permit No. 99-8 and Minor Design Review No. M 99-4 and if the Planning Commission approves the project, staff recommends approval based on the findings, exhibits, and Conditions of Approval. Chairman Wilsey opened the Public Hearing at 8:37 pm. Mr. Andrew Johnson, JNB Telecom, 31315 Chaney Street, Carlsbad, California, further explained the coverage diagrams. He indicated there aze experts available for any technical questions. There being no further public comments, Chairman Wilsey closed the Public Hearing at 8:40 pm. Commissioner Sands indicated the monopole should be screened so that it doesn't look like a sore thumb. Commissioner Bames stated the area is rather rural and feels the height should remain at 45' or below. He further stated that the antenna should be disguised so that it is not so noticeable. He indicated that he feels this should be City policy for all new facilities. Commissioner Polk indicated his only concern is the visibility of the antenna. He inquired if Sprint could co-locate on another facility. Mr. Johnson indicated that is not possible with this facility, as the facility needs to be in a specific location to provide PAGE 7 -PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES -OCTOBER 20, 1999 continuous coverage. Commissioner Polk noted that the facility was previously approved at 75' at the water tower site. Mr. Johnson noted Sprint was never able to get access. Commissioner Matthies asked which sites listed in the staff report as approved where never built. Associate Planner Miller indicated that #1 (Riverside Dr and I-15), #8 (17432 Baker), and #10 (Lake Street and I-15) were never built. Commissioner Matthies indicated that she thought these facilities would be able to co-locate on the same tower. Mr. Johnson indicated that is not possible, as Sprint would not be able to get continuous coverage. Mr. Johnson said the proposed tower will be designed for future co-location. Commissioner Matthies inquired whether the facility would be able to be disguised as a flagpole. Commissioner Bames indicated that the poles are disguised all the time as trees. Chairman Wilsey indicated he understands what Commissioner Barnes is saying but this site would not work as there are no other trees in the area. Chairman Wilsey indicated that this is why he thought it might be able to be used as a flagpole. Mr. Johnson suggested that the pole not be painted light blue as stated in Condition #5 but rather tan. He stated that the hillside will be either green or brown, depending on the time of year and a light blue pole will stick out. Chairman Wilsey asked about the feasibility of the flag pole idea. Mr. Johnson indicated that the flag will make the pole even higher as it will have to go above the antennas. Commissioner Barnes noted the flag will be very expensive to keep the flag in scale with the height of the pole. Community Development Director Brady inquired about the concept of erecting a plastic panel or sign around the antennas. Mr. Tim Lenoioni, Sprint PCS, indicated it would have to be a complete box around the antennas. He stated that it would work better with a rooftop antenna. Mr. Lenoioni stated that the 75' height is needed to reach the next site and still provide coverage along the freeway. He stated that the I-15 corridor is a difficult area because of the mountains on both sides of the freeway and the curves in the freeway. Chairman Wilsey asked what will be visible from I-15. Mr. Johnson indicated a person would see the water tank before they would see the tower. Commissioner Barnes asked if Condition #8 also includes weeds. Associate Planner Miller indicated they mean trees, etc. Chairman Wilsey suggested striking the first word, "any". Commissioner Matthies asked if the color can be changed in Condition #5. Chairran Wilsey suggested striking "light sky blue" and replacing it with "blend with the background colors subject to Community Development Director approval". Commissioner Barnes indicated he can not vote for this project with an undisguised height of 75'. Chairman Wilsey indicated that the flag pole idea will not work. Commissioner Matthies indicated she would rather see the pole painted to blend in with the hillside rather than see a tree in the middle of nowhere. MOVED BY MATTHIES, SECONDED BY POLK AND CARRIED WITH A 4-1 VOTE WITH BARNES CASTING THE DISSENTING VOTE TO APPROVE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 99-8 AND MINOR DESIGN REVIEW NO. 99-4 WITH THE CHANGE TO CONDITIONS NO. 5 AND NO. 8 BASED ON THE FINDINGS AND EXHIBITS AND SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL. 4. Conditional Use Permit No. 99-9 and Minor Design Review, M 99-5, of a Personal Communication System (PCS) Facility at Lake Street (APN 390-120-007) Community Development Director Brady indicated this is a similar requested and asked Associate Planner Miller to review the project with the Commission. Associate Planner Miller indicated this is substantially the same request as just approved with a different height limitation. She noted that the maximum height allowed is 45' thereby making the pole 30' over the allowed height. This project was previously approved for a location in the same general area but at a higher elevation. She indicated that the applicant had difficulties developing that site with the landowner. Associate Planner Miller indicated that staff understands without this facility and the facility just approved, the applicant will have "dead-zones" within their service area. Associate PAGE 8 -PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES -OCTOBER 20, 1999 Planner Miller noted that staff is recommending that the Planning Commission consider the request for Conditional Use Permit No. 99-9 and Minor Design Review No. M 99-5 and if the Planning Commission approves the project, staff recommends approval based on the findings, exhibits, and Conditions of Approval. Chairman Wilsey opened the Public Hearing at 8:56 pm. Mr. Andrew Johnson, JNB Telecom, stated he was unable to get an agreement with Air Touch and so was unable to co-locate. He indicated that the applicant was able to get a lease agreement with EVMWD. He said the height of the proposed tower is higher than the previously approved tower because they had to move to a lower elevation. Chairman Wilsey asked if this tower would be above the horizon line. Mr. Johnson indicated that it would be above the horizon line. Commissioner Barnes stated that this is adjacent to the water district tank. Mr. Johnson stated it was. There being no further comments, Chairman Wilsey closed the Public Hearing at 9:00 pm. Commissioner Sands asked if Air Touch cut the hill down. Mr. Johnson indicated that it was EVMWD that cut the hill down. Mr. Johnson stated the proposed location is between the Air Touch site and the EVMWD water tank. Mr. Johnson stated the base of the pole is at the same height as the base of the water tank. Commissioner Barnes indicated he does not have problems with this site as there are existing antennas in the area. Commissioner Matthies suggested that Condition #5 and #8 are changed to read the same as the project just approved. MOVED BY SANDS, SECONDED BY POLK AND CARRIED WITH A UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO APPROVE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 99-9 AND MINOR DESIGN REVIEW NO. 99-5 WITH THE CHANGE TO CONDITIONS NO. 5 AND NO.8 BASED ON THE FINDINGS AND EXHIBITS AND SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL. BUSINESS ITEMS None. ADJOURNED TO DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE The Planning Commission adjourned to the Design Review Committee at 9:03 pm. The Planning Commission reconvened at 9:11 pm. INFORMATIONAL STAFF COMMENTS Community Development Director Brady commented on the followine• None. PLANNING COMMISSIONER'S COMMENTS Commissioner Matthies commented on the followine: • She stated the League of California Cities conference was great. She indicated one of the ideas that she would like to see in Lake Elsinore is Family Week. She PAGE 9 -PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES -OCTOBER 20, 1999 stated she would like to see the Community Unity Parade extended to encompass the full week. Commissioner Sands commented on the followine: • He stated that the conference was very informative and he had a good time. He noted that there were over 2,000 people at the conference and some sessions were quite full. Commissioner Polk commented on the followine: None. Commissioner Barnes commented on the followine: • He mentioned that the PCS towers in Temecula are not noticeable as they are all disguised. Community Development Director Brady indicated that staff still plans on drafting an ordinance but there just has not been time. Chairman Wilsey commented on the following: • He asked that colored dividers be placed between staff reports in the packets. • He indicated that whoever cleaned the trail systems off Terra Cotta near the Hovanian tract did a great job. He stated that kids are now using these trails to walk to school. • He mentioned that he would still like to see a trail system developed along the flood control channel. • He noted that the BBQ restaurant on Riverside Drive was originally conditioned to remove the old BBQ grill on the property. He stated that the original BBQ has not been removed and they have even added two more to the collection. He asked that staff request they remove these from the property. ADJOURNMENT MOVED BY BARNES, SECONDED BY MATTHIES AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO ADJOURN THE REGULAR PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING AT 9:15 PM. Respectfully Submitted nika Hennings, Community Development Secretary ATTEST: v ~_ obert A. Brady, Secret to the Planning Commission MINUTES PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING November 3,1999 The Regular Planning Commission Meeting was called to order at 7:00 pm by Chairman Wilsey. The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Commissioner Polk. ROLL CALL PRESENT: COMMISSIONERS: WILSEY, BARNES, SANDS, MATTHIES, AND POLK ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: Also present were: Community Development Director Brady, City Engineer O'Donnell, Associate Planner Miller, and Community Development Secretary Hennings. PUBLIC COMMENTS There being no request to speak, the Public Comments section was closed. CONSENT CALENDAR MOVED BY SANDS, SECONDED BY BARNES AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR. 1. Minutes a. Planning Commission Regular Meeting -October 6, 1999 b. Planning Commission Regular Meeting -October 20, 1999 PUBLIC HEARINGS 2. Conditional Use Permit No. 98-5 and Design Review Misc. No. 99-6 "Lamb's Fellowshin Church" Community Development Director Brady indicated that the applicant and staff met and deterrnined additional time was needed to prepare the Noise Study and to resolve the traffic issues. MOVED BY BARNES, SECONDED BY MATTHIES AND APPROVED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO CONTINUE THIS HEARING UNTIL THE NOVEMBER 17,1999 PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING. 3. Conditional Use Permit No. 99-1. Minor Design Review, M 99-7, and Variances No.'s 99-9 through 99-14 for an Addition to First Lutheran Church of Elsinore Located at 600 West Sumner Avenue (APN 374-143-017 & 374-143-001 Community Development Director Brady indicated that this is a request for an addition to a church located at Sumner Avenue and Lindsay Street. He asked that Associate Planner Miller review the project with the Commission. Associate Planner Miller first made the following corrections to the staff report. She noted that the sentence under "Project Request" on page 1 should reference Variances No.'s 99-9 through 99-14. Associate Planner Miller requested that the word "enhancing" be deleted from the third line under "Architecture Design" on page 3. She asked that the following phrase is added to the last sentence on page 4, "until such time as Sumner PAGE 2 -PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES -NOVEMBER 3, 1999 Avenue is widened to its ultimate width of 100 feet." Associate Planner Miller asked that the following sentence be added to the end of the paragraph entitled "Variance No. 99- 14" on page 5: "The applicant requests that the building be setback 7' from the property line." Associate Planner Miller requested that the recommendation, as stated on page 7, be revised to read as follows: "If the applicant and the Planning Commission agree to locate the proposed building 15 feet from the Lindsay Street property line, Staff recommends that Planning Commission approve Conditional Use Permit No. 99-11 to allow the First Lutheran Church of Elsinore to continue church activities. Staff recommends that Planning Commission approve Variances No.'s 99-9 through 99-13 and deny Variance No. 14 and staff recommends that the Planning Commission recommend that City Council approve Minor Design Review M 99-7." Associate Planner Miller requested that the heading for the Conditions of Approval be amended to include "Minor Design Review M 99-7, and Variance No.'s 99-9 through 99- 14." She requested that the word "sanitary" in Condition No. 3 be changed to "Sanctuary" and that the word "northern" in the second line of Condition No. 12 be changed to "western". Associate Planner Miller indicated that the First Lutheran Church of Elsinore was established in 1944, 40 plus years prior to the adoption of both the Lake Elsinore Municipal Code in 1986 and the Historic Elsinore Architectural Design Guidelines in 1993. She noted that the sanctuary building was added to the church complex in 1977 and the classrooms were added in 1984. Associate Planner Miller indicated that the Conditional Use Permit and Variances were required to bring the church into conformance with these codes. Associate Planner Miller then outlined each of the Variances. Associate Planner Miller indicated that the Design Review is fora 1,960 square foot building addition, parking lot, and landscaping. She indicated that the architecture design is in conformance with the Historic Standards and will be a distinctive addition to the neighborhood and the Historic Overlay District. Associate Planner Miller indicated that there are two issues still unresolved: parking and setbacks. She noted that if the applicant and Planning Commission agree to the setbacks as listed by staff, then staff recommends approval. Associate Planner Miller noted that another issue just raised by the applicant was the requirement by the City Engineer of a 10-foot right of way dedication. Chairman Wilsey opened the public hearing at 7:11 pm. Kim Quon, Studio 7 Architecture and Engineering, thanked staff for their help with the application process. He noted that the General Plan shows aright-of--way width of 100 feet but the road is currently 80 feet. He indicated a 10-foot right-of--way dedication would reduce the total parking available and suggested that if the church dedicate the additional right of way, that the City Engineer could approve an Encroachment Permit that would allow the church to use this area until the street is widened. He noted that it is unlikely that the street will be widened in the near future as there are other uses encroaching in the proposed right of way such as the school. He noted that if this issue could not be resolved, then this could kill the entire project. Mr. Quon noted the difference in setback requirements between the Zoning Code and the Historic Standards. He stated that he understands staff is saying the more restrictive code must be followed but offered the following comparisons. He noted that the Zoning Code requires a 15-foot setback and thus an 8-foot variance is required. He suggested that the Historic Standard is used which requires a 10-foot setback and thus only a 3-foot variance is required. He further noted that the only entrance on the Lindsay Street side is an exit door. He indicated the applicant would be willing to make this an exit only door and have it locked PAGE 3 -PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES -NOVEMBER 3, 1999 to the outside. He said the applicant would even be willing to look at removing the door altogether but that he believes the door is needed to comply with fire codes. Mr. Robert D. Mericle, First Lutheran Church, stated he has been the Chairman of the Expansion Committee for the past three yeazs. He stressed that the Committee has looked at other options, such as relocating or building a second story, but that the proposal being presented tonight has been deemed the least costly alternative. Mr. Mericle handed out a letter dated November 3, 1999, addressed to Chairman Wilsey / Lake Elsinore Planning Commission which discusses the Proposed Building Setback on Lindsay Street. Mr. Mericle indicated that the ultimate objective of this project is to be able to seat the entire congregation in a dining mode. He stated that if the proposed addition can only be 1,700 s.f. because of the setback limitations, than the other fee requirements listed in Conditions No. 20, 21, and 30 made the whole project cost prohibitive. Mr. Quon indicated that he would like to have the in-lieu fee, mentioned in Condition No. 20, specified. There being no further comments, Chairman Wilsey closed the Public Hearing at 7:28 pm. Commissioner Barnes asked what the church is currently using in place of the trash enclosure. Associate Planner Miller indicated the applicant currently uses the residential type of can, as opposed to the Commercial type. Mr. Mericle indicated that the cans are stored in an alcove behind the Fellowship court. Commissioner Barnes asked if the applicant would be using a special type of lighting source to protect the bordering residential uses from the glare. Associate Planner Miller indicated that Condition No. 13 addressed the lighting. Commissioner Barnes noted that the staff report indicated that a larger setback is needed for safety reasons. He asked for clarification. Associate Planner Miller indicated that staff is concerned with the side exit being near the street. Commissioner Barnes noted he feels that there is not a safety issue since the exit door is above the street level and the door opens to a retaining wall. Associate Planner Miller noted that staff would like to keep buildings set away from streets and suggested the setback be maintained as stated in the Lake Elsinore Municipal Code. Associate Planner Miller noted that the Historic Standards also state a 15-foot setback is required. She noted it is sometimes difficult to interpret the Historic Standards and in this instance, the Standards direct the reader to another section applying to Commercial structures. Commissioner Polk stated he concurs with Commissioner Barnes and that he does not see a safety issue as Lindsay is not a very busy street. He did question why the applicant did not maintain an 11'6" setback, the same as the existing building. Mr. Quon stated if the same setback was used then there would be a solid brick wall facing Lindsay and he wanted to vary the fapade to make it more azchitecturally pleasing. He further noted the church needs the additional square footage. Commissioner Matthies noted she agrees with staff that it is better to keep the buildings away from the streets but indicated that in this instance she concurs with Commissioner Barnes regarding the safety issue. Commissioner Matthies asked the City Engineer if he could provide the applicant with a figure for the in-lieu fees required in Condition No. 20. City Engineer O'Donnell noted the in-lieu fees would total $70 per linear foot along the entire road frontage. Chairman Wilsey asked the City Engineer his feelings on the right-of--way dedication. City Engineer O'Donnell stated that the applicant will have to dedicate the right-of--way then apply for an Encroachment Permit. He also stated that the applicant will have to provide a Hold Harmless Agreement. He noted that when the street is widened the church would lose some parking. Commissioner Matthies asked if Condition No. 15 refers to the southern boundary. Mr. Quon clarified that the Lot Line Adjustment is required along the western boundary. PAGE 4 -PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES -NOVEMBER 3, 1999 Commissioner Matthies asked if the applicant has contacted the property owner. Mr. Quon indicated that this is just a formality as the church has used the property for 50 years and the adjacent property owner gave up rights to the property long ago. Commissioner Sands indicated he concurs with staff on Variances 99-9 through 99-13. He stated he feels 7 feet is too close for a building to be to a street, but would agree to a setback of 11'6". He also indicated he concurs with staff regarding the fencing. Chairman Wilsey indicated that the Planning Commission must make some concessions since the church has been in the community for 50 years. He noted that additional verbiage could be added to Condition No. 21 allowing the church to encroach into the right-of--way until the street is widened. He noted that the church should look at finding additional parking for the future. Chairman Wilsey noted he understood staffs concerns but felt that concessions need to be made. He indicated he would also be worried about the limited setback if the exit was at street level but in this case he would agree to the requested Variance. Commissioner Matthies noted that it is important to keep the church in the downtown area as many move into outlying areas when they need to expand. Commissioner Barnes noted that this is a good project. Associate Planner Miller stressed that staff also finds the project to be an enhancement to the downtown area. Community Development Director Brady recommended that Condition No. 21 be revised to include the following verbiage: "The applicant may use the dedicated area until Sumner Avenue is widened providing the applicant enters into a Hold Harmless Agreement and obtains an Encroachment Permit." Community Development Director Brady requested the Commission clarify their wishes regarding the Variances. The consensus of the Commission was to approve the Variances as presented with the exception that Variance No. 99-14 will allow a 7-foot setback. MOVED BY MATTHIES, SECONDED BY POLK AND CARRIED WITH UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO APPROVE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 99-11 AND VARIANCE NO.'S 99-9 THROUGH 99-14 AND RECOMMEND THAT THE CITY COUNCIL APPROVE MINOR DESIGN REVIEW M 99-7 WITH THE AMENDMENTS TO CONDITION NO.'S 3, 12 AND 21 AND THE REVISION TO VARIANCE NO.99-14 AS PREVIOUSLY STATED. None. ADJOURNED TO DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE The Planning Commission adjourned to the Design Review Committee at 8:00 pm. The Planning Commission reconvened at 8:02 pm. INFORMATIONAL STAFF COMMENTS Community Development Director Brady commented on the followine: • He noted that the City Council will be adopting a proclamation recognizing World Planning Day at the November 9, 1999 City Council Meeting. He invited the Chairman and Commissioners to this meeting to receive the proclamation. • He indicated that California Planning Law requires that a report on the status and the implementation of the City's General Plan be made to the City Council annually with a copy submitted to the Governor's Office of Planning and PAGE 5 -PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES -NOVEMBER 3, 1999 Research. He gave an overview of the report as well as providing a copy to each Commissioner. He stated that due to the age of the document, staff has recommended that the City's General Plan be updated and revised next year. PLANNING COMMISSIONER'S COMMENTS Chairman Wilsey commented on the following He asked if there will be a major overhaul of the General Plan. Community Development Director Brady indicated that he would not encourage unnecessary meetings but the public and decision-makers would need to be involved and provide direction. He inquired about the School District's project on Chaney. Community Development Director Brady indicated that the School District has requested funds for the school and is moving forward with the project. Commissioner Matthies commented on the followine: She noted that the School District has received grants for Elsinore Middle School. Community Development Director Brady indicated that the School District will relocate the students for approximately one year while the school is rehabilitated. He noted the School District is looking at an interim site within Cottonwood Hills. Commissioner Polk commented on the followine: He asked if the City owns the lake frontage. Community Development Director Brady indicated that the City does not own the frontage but it has been the City's desire to create a walkway around the lake. Commissioner Barnes commented on the followine: He asked if there is a problem with Ramsgate. Community Development Director Brady noted it is experiencing a temporary delay. He noted that he has been impressed with staff. He noted this was a challenging project and felt Associate Planner Miller did a great job. Commissioner Sands commented on the followine: None. ADJOURNMENT MOVED BY BARNES, SECONDED BY POLK AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO ADJOURN THE REGULAR PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING AT 8:15 PM. Respectfully Submitted onika Hennin ,Community Development Secretary PAGE 6 -PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES -NOVEMBER 3, 1999 ATTEST: Hobert A. Brady, Secretary`fo the Planning Commission MINUTES PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING November 17,1999 The Regular Planning Commission Meeting was called to order at 7:00 pm by Chairman Wilsey. The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Commissioner Sands. ROLL CALL PRESENT: COMMISSIONERS: WILSEY, BARNES, SANDS, MATTHIES, AND POLK ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: Also present were: Community Development Director Brady, Associate Planner Miller, and Community Development Secretary Hennings. PUBLIC COMMENTS There being no request to speak, the Public Comments section was closed. CONSENT CALENDAR Commissioner Barnes requested that the seventh line in the fifth paragraph on page 3 be revised to read "...the exit door is below the street level..." He also noted that on page 5 under comments he asked about the Railroad Canyon Landscaping, not Ramsgate. MOVED BY BARNES, SECONDED BY SANDS AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR AS CORRECTED. 1. Minutes a. Planning Commission Regular Meeting -November 3, 1999 PUBLIC HEARINGS 2. Conditional Use Permit No. 98-5 and Design Review Misc. No. 99-6 "Lamb's Fellowship Church" at 21990 Railroad Canvon Road Community Development Director Brady indicated that staff is still waiting for additional information from the applicant. He noted that staff would like to recommend that the Public Hearing be continued indefinitely. The Public Hearing will be re-noticed when it is ready to be brought back before the Planning Commission. MOVED BY MATTHIES, SECONDED BY BARNES AND APPROVED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO CONTINUE THIS HEARING INDEFINITELY. BUSINESS ITEMS None. PAGE 2 -PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES -NOVEMBER 17, 1999 ADJOURNED TO DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE The Planning Commission adjourned to the Design Review Committee at 7:05 pm. The Planning Commission reconvened at 7:20 pm. INFORMATIONAL STAFF COMMENTS Community Develoroment Director Brady commented on the following_ None. PLANNING COMMISSIONER'S COMMENTS Commissioner Matthies commented on the followine: • She stated that the Unity in the Community Parade will be this Saturday morning, November 20, at 10:00 am. • She noted that she will miss the second meeting in December and the first meeting in January. Commissioner Barnes commented on the followine: • He wished everyone a Happy Thanksgiving. Commissioner Polk commented on the followine: None. Commissioner Sands commented on the followine: • He noted that he was honored to have been part of the Committee that accepted the Proclamation of World Town Planning Day at the last City Council Meeting on behalf of staff. Chairman Wilsey commented on the following; • He also stated he was happy to have been part of the Committee. He noted that Commissioner Polk was also present. Chairman Wilsey stated that staff does an admirable job and represents the community well. • He stated that the BBQ restaurant on Riverside Drive is now storing both the old BBQ grills and other unauthorized items in the parking lot. He stated it appears other businesses may be doing the same and requested that Code Enforcement follow up on this issue. ADJOURNMENT MOVED BY SANDS, SECONDED BY POLK AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO ADJOURN THE REGULAR PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING AT 7:32 PM. PAGE 3 -PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES -NOVEMBER 17, 1999 Respectfully Submitted ~~ ~ / ~ -~ onika Hennin ,Community Development Secretary ATTEST: MINUTES PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING December 1, 1999 The Regular Planning Commission Meeting was called to order at 7:00 pm by Chairman Wilsey. The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Commissioner Sands. ROLL CALL PRESENT: COMMISSIONERS: WILSEY, BARNES, SANDS, AND MATTHIES ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: POLK Also present were: Community Development Director Brady, Associate Planner Miller, and Community Development Secretary Hennings. PUBLIC COMMENTS There being no request to speak, the Public Comments section was closed. CONSENT CALENDAR MOVED BY SANDS, SECONDED BY MATTHIES AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR. 1. Minutes a. Planning Commission Regular Meeting -November 17, 1999 PUBLIC HEARINGS 2. Variance No. 99-8 for a Patio Cover at Hunnv's Restaurant Located at 31253 Riverside Drive (APN 379-222-014 Community Development Director Brady indicated that this is a request for a Variance for a patio cover at Hunny's Restaurant. He asked that Associate Planner Miller review the project with the Commission. Associate Planner Miller indicated that this is a request for a Variance for the side setback. She noted that the patio cover was constructed without building permits. Associate Planner Miller stated that the building is legally nonconforming and the lot could be considered narrow. She stated that the Lake Elsinore Municipal Code requires a 15-foot side setback because it is a corner lot. Associate Planner Miller indicated that this project could be considered for a variance because of a special circumstance applicable only to the property to which the Variance pertains. Chairman Wilsey opened the Public Hearing at 7:03 pm. Mr. Lino Lourenco stated that the restaurant originally had a patio cover but it was removed some time ago. He said when they built the new patio cover he was not aware that a building permit would be required. He noted that he was just trying to improve the look of his business. There being no further requests to speak, Chairman Wilsey closed the Public Hearing at 7:04 pm. PAGE 2 -PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES -DECEMBER 1, 1999 Commissioner Sands noted that it does not appear that the patio cover is any closer to the street than the existing building. He stated he had no problem approving this request for a Variance. Commissioner Matthies asked the applicant if he agreed with the proposed conditions of approval. Mr. Lourenco indicated that he did not have a problem with the conditions. Commissioner Matthies indicated that she concurs with Commissioner Sands. Commissioner Barnes asked staff if Building and Safety had any concerns about this structure. Associate Planner Miller indicated that she just found out that the applicant will need to retrofit the patio cover to meet building and safety codes do to the nearness of the roadway. Chairman Wiley indicated that he had no further comments. MOVED BY MATTHIES, SECONDED BY BARNES AND APPROVED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO APPROVE VARIANCE NO. 99- 8 BASED ON THE FINDINGS, CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL, AND EXHIBITS. Community Development Director Brady reminded the applicant that he will still need to pull building permits, call for inspections, and obtain a final building inspection. BUSINESS ITEMS None. ADJOURNED TO DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE The Planning Commission adjourned to the Design Review Committee at 7:05 pm. The Planning Commission reconvened at 7:06 pm. INFORMATIONAL STAFF COMMENTS Community Development Director Bradv commented on the following He reminded those present that the Winterfest will be this Friday starting at 5:00 pm. He also informed the Planning Commission that Mr. Polo submitted the requested Noise Study and that staff will be bring the proposed church located on Railroad Canyon Road back before the Commission on December 15, 1999 PLANNING COMMISSIONER'S COMMENTS Chairman Wilsev commented on the following He asked if the Noise Study was elaborate. Community Development Director Brady indicated that he has not personally reviewed the study. He noted that staff has reviewed the new information and that the Negative Declaration has been updated. Chairman Wilsey asked that the applicant submit a conceptual drawing of the approximate location of future housing in the general vicinity. Commissioner Sands commented on the followine: None. PAGE 3 -PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES -DECEMBER 1, 1999 Commissioner Matthies commented on the following: • She wished everyone a Good Holiday. • She noted that the Unity in the Community Parade had a good turnout. Commissioner Barnes commented on the following: • He stated that Cops for Kids was a success. ADJOURNMENT MOVED BY SANDS, SECONDED BY BARNES AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO ADJOURN THE REGULAR PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING AT 7:13 PM. AL WILSEY, CHAIRMAN Respectfully Submitted ~// ~ N= I I ~---~ onika Hennings, Community Development Secretary ATTEST: MINUTES PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING December 15, 1999 The Regular Planning Commission Meeting was called to order at 7:00 pm by Acting Chairman Barnes. The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Commissioner Sands. ROLL CALL PRESENT: BARNES, SANDS, AND POLK ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: WILSEY AND MATTHIES Also present were: Community Development Director Brady, Senior Planner Villa, and Community Development Secretary Hennings. PUBLIC COMMENTS There being no request to speak, the Public Comments section was closed. CONSENT CALENDAR Acting Chairman Barnes requested that the last sentence of the third paragraph on page 2 read "...safety codes due to the nearness..." MOVED BY SANDS, SECONDED BY BARNES AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR AS CORRECTED. 1. Minutes a. Planning Commission Regular Meeting -December 1, 1999 PUBLIC HEARINGS 2. Conditional Use Permit No. 98-5. Desien Review Misc. No. 99-6 -Lamb's Fellowship Church at 21990 Railroad Canvon Road Community Development Director Brady indicated that this agenda item has been before the Commission previously and has been continued several times while additional information was obtained. He asked that Senior Planner Villa review the project with the Commission. Senior Planner Villa indicated that this project has been continued from the October 20, 1999 Planning Commission Meeting. He gave a brief background of the project. Senior Planner Villa indicated that the project has been continued several times due to the concerns of the Commission regarding the potential noise levels from the amphitheater, the applicants concerns about the recommendation by staff that the applicant provide a traffic signal, and design of the Youth Barn. Senior Planner Villa indicated that staff and the applicant have resolved the issues of funding the traffic signal. He noted that the applicant would provide the traffic signal subject to a reimbursement schedule as outlined in Condition No. 64. Senior Planner Villa indicated that the applicant has provided a Noise Study. He outlined the results of the Noise Study as stated in Section 7.0 of the Noise Study (page 25 of the staff report) prepared by Gordon Bricken & Associates dated November 10, 1999. PAGE 2 -PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES -DECEMBER 15, 1999 Senior Planner Villa indicated that subject to the above guidelines, the applicant would be able to comply with the City's Noise Ordinance. Senior Planner Villa indicated that the applicant submitted plans for the Youth Barn. He noted that the structure is proposed to be 4,800 s.f. in area and will be used for storage and in conjunction with sports and youth activities. Senior Planner Villa stated that staff would like to revise or delete a few conditions. He suggested that Condition No. 2 be revised to allow outdoor activities between the hours of 7:00 AM to 10:00 PM seven days a week, subject to the approval of the Community Development Director and to have no restrictions on indoor activities. Senior Planner Villa requested that Condition No. 4 be deleted. He requested that a period be placed after "Noise Ordinance" in Condition No. 17 and delete the remaining words. He asked that the following phrase be added to the end of the first sentence in Condition No. 21, "...and Section 16.34.040 of the Lake Elsinore Municipal Code." Senior Planner Villa stated that staff recommends approval of the project and that the Planning Commission consider the use of a public address system for the proposed outdoor amphitheater. Commissioner Polk indicated that the phase "as required by" should be deleted from Condition No. 35. He further asked for clarification of the reimbursement for the traffic signal. City Engineer O'Donnell indicated that the traffic signal would be installed with the first phase for safety purposes. Senior Planner Villa indicated that the applicant would not be reimbursed for the cost of the traffic signal until such time as other development takes place. He noted that the applicant would get a percentage of the cost back from any future developer. Acting Chairman Barnes opened the Public Hearing at 7:15 pm. Mr. Tony Polo, applicant, thanked Community Development Director Brady and staff for taking the time to meet with him. He indicated there are still a few more issues that he would like to discuss. Mr. Polo said that Condition #40 requires the applicant to dedicate the underground water rights. He said he does not believe this should pertain to this project as no land is being divided. He noted that Condition No. 29 and 30 (b) require 24" box trees. He said that he understands this is just a policy set up by the Commission. He indicated he would like the Commission to allow 15" box trees as required by the Ordinance since the applicant has already agreed to install the traffic signal. Mr. Polo said that Condition No. 30 (a) requires 100% of the site to have irrigation. He noted he would like to request that some of the landscape be kept native without irrigation. He noted the site is large and it would be expensive to irrigate the entire site. Mr. Polo requested that the curb and gutter along Railroad Canyon be installed in a later phase since the applicant is already putting forth the money for the traffic signal and this portion of Railroad Canyon will not be developed for some time. Mr. Polo said his final concern is that the Traffic Engineer has mentioned that the planting in the medium will grow to five feet or higher. He stated that he is concerned about the line of sight problems because of these plantings. There being no further comments, Acting Chairman Barnes closed the Public Hearing at 7:20 PM. Acting Chairman Barnes asked for staffs comments. Community Development Director Brady indicated that it has been a consistent requirement of the Commission to require 24" box trees. He noted that the City would trim any plantings in the medium if they become a hazard. Community Development Director Brady indicated that Condition No. 40 is a standard condition. He noted that the land was divided at sometime in the past and indicated that staff would recommend that the Commission leave this Condition. Community Development Director Brady indicated that the Commission can not defer the requirement for curb and gutters, as this is a matter for the City Council; although, he noted that the Commission can make a recommendation to the City Council if they so desire. PAGE 3 -PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES -DECEMBER 15, 1999 Commissioner Polk indicated that he feels the curbs and gutters should be installed now. He further stated that the Commission has had a policy for some time to require 24" box trees and he does not believe it should be changed. Commissioner Sands requested that the word "any" be removed from the third line under "Recommendation". He asked staff if Exhibit 14 is the alternative that shows the allowed noise levels. Senior Planner Villa indicated that Exhibit 14 illustrates the only alternative that will keep the noise level in compliance with the Noise Ordinance. Commissioner Sands asked who would monitor the sound levels. Senior Planner Villa indicated that the Noise Ordinance assigns the duty to a Noise Officer /Code Compliance Officer. He stated that in this case, the City will most likely monitor the first couple events. Commissioner Sands noted that he concurs with Commissioner Polk regarding the curbs and gutters and the 24" box trees. Acting Chairman Barnes asked when the Youth Barn would be constructed. Senior Planner Villa indicated it would be part of Phase 1. Acting Chairman Barnes indicated that staff stated the Barn meets the requirements for a storage facility but that the applicant has stated that it will also be for youth activities. Acting Chairman Barnes noted that the building must meet the building codes for public use. Community Development Director Brady indicated that it would meet all applicable codes. Acting Chairman Barnes suggested that the hours of operation for the amphitheater, with sound system, be 7:00 AM to 9:00 PM Monday through Friday and 8:00 AM to 6:00 PM Saturday and Sunday. He indicated that he was not concerned with any athletic events. Commissioner Sands and Polk concurred. Mr. Polo indicated that the applicant must comply with the Noise Ordinance 24 hours a day 365 days a year. He indicated that he would like to leave open the option of having later events on the weekends. Acting Chairman Barnes noted his concern was that the church would be located in a residential district. The Commission further discussed the noise issue. Acting Chairman Barnes suggested that events could be held after 9:00 PM by special permit subject to approval by the Community Development Director. Community Development Director Brady suggested that Condition No. 2 be revised to read as follows: "Hours of operation for outdoor activities with music or using a public address system will be between 7:00 AM to 9:00 PM seven days a week. Operation beyond these designated hours shall be approved by the Community Development Director on a case by case basis. Acting Chairman Barnes suggested that the Commission allow the 15" box trees but require the curbs and gutters. He also noted that the water rights must be deeded so Condition No. 40 needs to be left. MOVED BY BARNES, SECONDED BY SANDS AND APPROVED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO APPROVE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 98-5 AND RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF DESIGN REVIEW NO. M 99-6 TO THE CITY COUNCIL BASED ON THE FINDINGS, CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL, AND EXHIBITS SUBJECT TO THE REVISION OF CONDITIONS NO. 2, 17, 21, 29, 30 (b), AND 35 AND THE DELETION OF CONDITION N0.4. BUSINESS ITEMS 3. Gunnerson Pond Project Community Development Director Brady indicated that this is a request to find the project in conformance with the General Plan designation. He indicated that this action would allow the Riverside Flood Control and Water Conservation District to acquire approximately 200 parcels from private owners in order to construct the project. PAGE 4 -PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES -DECEMBER 15, 1999 MOVED BY POLK, SECONDED BY SANDS AND APPROVED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO FIND THE GUNNERSON POND PROJECT IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE GENERAL PLAN. ADJOURNED TO DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE The Planning Commission adjourned to the Design Review Committee at 7:50 pm. The Planning Commission reconvened at 7:55 pm. INFORMATIONAL STAFF COMMENTS Communi Development Director Brady commented on the following; • He noted that there would be a City Council Study Session tomorrow at 10:00 AM at the Cultural Center to discuss the application received for Community Development Block Grant funds. • He wished all a Happy Holiday and a Happy New Year. PLANNING COMMISSIONER'S COMMENTS Commissioner Sands commented on the followine: • He wished all Happy Holidays. Commissioner Polk commented on the followine• • He wished all, especially staff who do a fantastic job, Happy Holidays. Acting Chairman Barnes commented on the following_ • He noted that this has been a busy year and expressed his satisfaction with the great job done by staff. He expressed Holiday Wishes to all. ADJOURNMENT MOVED BY SANDS, SECONDED BY POLK AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO ADJOURN THE REGULAR PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING AT 8:00 PM. BARNES, ACTING CHAIRMAN Respectfully Submitted Monika Hennings, Community Development Secretary PAGE 5 -PLANNING COMMISSION MINUTES -DECEMBER 15, 1999 ATTEST: kobert A. Brady, Sec~fary to the Planning Commissi