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HomeMy WebLinkAbout05-12-2004 PSAC - MINUTES PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISORY COMMISSION MEETING CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE 183 NORTH MAIN STREET LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA WEDNESDAY, MAY 12, 2004 ****************************************************************** CALL TO ORDER The Regular Public Safety Advisory Commission Meeting was called to order by Chairman Uhlry at 6:00 p.m. 1. Oath of Office - Newlv Elected Officers. Deputy City Clerk Ray administered the Oath of Office to Commissioner Hewison, Commissioner Knight, Commissioner Lewis, and Commissioner Moon. Commissioner Uhlry was previously sworn in by City Clerk Kasad on May 11,2004. Commissioner Hewison, Commissioner Knight, Commissioner Lewis, and Commissioner Moon took their places at the dais. ROLL CALL PRESENT: COMMISSIONERS: HEWISON, KNIGHT, LEWIS, MOON, UHLRY ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE Also present were: City Manager Watenpaugh, Assistant City Manager Best, Chief of Police Fetherolf and Deputy City Clerk/Clerk of the Board Ray. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Commissioner Moon. Page Two - Public Safety Advisory Commission Minutes - May 12, 2004 PUBLIC COMMENTS No comments. CONSENT CALENDAR 1. City Manager Watenpaugh gave an overview of the process. He gave an overview of the Brown Act. He explained that the agendas and staff reports would be prepared in advanced and ready for pick up either the Thursday or Friday before the second Wednesday of each month. He noted that there were non-agendized and agendized speaker forms for public comment with a limit of 3 minutes; however the Commission had the authority to change the time by a majority vote. He explained the Consent Calendar and the process for pulling Consent Items for discussion. He explained Business Items and noted that there were no Public Hearing Items. City Manager Watenpaugh explained what items would be included in the Public Safety Advisory Commission Agenda notebooks. He recommended that after each meeting the Commissioners remove the agenda from their notebooks and file them for future reference. BUSINESS ITEMS 21. City Manager Watenpaugh noted that Chapter 2.46 (Ordinance No. 1116); included the revisions that Council had adopted in modifying the Public Safety Advisory Commission. He noted that the Ordinance explained the areas of duty and responsibilities of the Commission. He noted that the intent of the Commission was to provide another set of eyes, ears and research, and provide information and recommendations to the City Council. He clarified that Council mayor may not act on a recommendation of the Public Safety Advisory Commission. He explained that the City Manager's Office was tasked with providing staff for the Commission. City Manager Watenpaugh explained that all information or e-mai1s done on the computer were public information. He commented that Chairman Uh1ry had suggested meeting the second Wednesday of each month at 6 p.m. He noted that the Commission would not have a key to City Hall, but would receive a City ID card. He Page Three - Public Safety Advisory Commission Minutes - May 12, 2004 advised that it was City Policy that City staff would not give out the home phone numbers and addresses of any officials to the public unless otherwise instructed by the individual Commissioners. 22. Selection of Vice Chairman. Chairman Uhlry opened nominations for the position of Vice Chairman. MOVED BY HEWISON, SECOND BY MOON AND APPROVED BY UNANIMOUS DECISION OF THOSE PRESENT TO NOMINATE COMMISSIONER LEWIS AS VICE CHAIRMAN. MOVED BY UHLRY, AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO CONFIRM COMMISSIONER LEWIS AS VICE CHAIRMAN. Commissioner Lewis accepted the position of Vice Chairman. 23. Funding. Chairman Uhlry deferred to City Manager Watenpaugh for an overview of funding. City Manager Watenpaugh commented that the Ordinance indicated the Commission should establish a web site that would link to the City's website. He suggested a line item to bring back to the Council for travel, training and public information. He indicated that he had discussed with Chairman Uhlry the possibility of a public safety brochure for informational purposes. Chairman Uhlry indicated that his intention was to have the consensus of the Commission to approve travel for anyone of the Commissioners. He noted the web site was mandated by the Ordinance. Vice Chairman Lewis inquired if the Commission was allowed to solicit sponsorship dollars from local businesses or other agencies. City Manager Page Four - Public Safety Advisory Commission Minutes - May 12, 2004 Watenpaugh noted that according to the Ordinance the Commission was to seek and aggressively go after grant funding, but the Commission was allowed to solicit donations from local businesses. Chairman Uhlry commented that he did not think the Advisory Commission to the Council would be directly responsible for soliciting donations. City Manager Watenpaugh clarified that if individuals on the Commission chose to solicit funds for a project that had been approved by the Council or a project in the works, it was their choice. He noted if the Commission chose to appoint a subcommittee to find funds for different projects they also had that right. Vice Chairman Lewis inquired if the City was a 501( c ) 3. City Manager Watenpaugh indicated that the City was not a 501( c ) 3. He indicated that currently the City was looking to finalize a foundation for Parks & Recreation services that would be a 50 I ( c ) 3. He noted that a 50 I ( c ) 3 foundation for Public Safety might be a recommendation that the Commission could research. Vice Chairman Lewis suggested using media sources to promote safety. Chairman Uhlry reiterated that this Commission was an Advisory Commission to the City Council so everything they recommended would need Council approval. He commented that their job was not to be a fundraising committee but to look at public safety as it affects the City and assist the public safety departments within the City organization. Vice Chairman Lewis indicated that he put together a short list of issues that the Commission should be involved in that went beyond the Neighborhood Watch. City Manager Watenpaugh inquired if the Commission wanted a public safety mast head on their agenda as opposed to just having Public Safety Commission across the top. He also mentioned verbiage for the Public Safety letterhead. He noted that would be an item that would need to be funded. Vice Chairman Lewis indicated that it would be nice to have something that reflected the goals of the Commission. MOVED BY LEWIS, SECONDED BY MOON AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO APPROVE A MAST HEAD THAT REFLECTED THE NAME OF THE COMMITTEE. Page Five - Public Safety Advisory Commission Minutes - May 12, 2004 City Manager Watenpaugh indicated that staff would bring back a staff report with options for the Commission to review. Chairman Uhlry inquired if Chief Fetherolf had any input regarding goals or funding. Chief Fetherolf indicated that the Commission might want to have an idea of some issues they would like to discuss at the next meeting. 24. June 9th Agenda Chairman Uhlry inquired if there was anything the Commission would like to see on the next agenda besides the items discussed during this meeting. Commissioner Hewison agreed with Chief Fetherolf and indicated that each member should write down some issues and bring them back at the next meeting. City Manager Watenpaugh also agreed that it was more effective if the Commission would take time to think about issues and bring them back at the next meeting. Commissioner Hewison asked City Manager Watenpaugh to list the four issues that would be brought back at the next meeting. City Manager Watenpaugh indicated that the four staff reports were as follows: 1. Cost of Training/Travel. 2. Website. 3. Public Safety Brochure. 4. Public Safety Mast Head. City Manager Watenpaugh explained the deadline for staff reports. He noted that emergency items could only be added to the agenda with 4 out of 5 votes; and it had to be an emergency after the agenda was distributed. Vice Chairman Lewis suggested that on every agenda special events should be listed so the Commission could address safety issues. He also suggested that the Commission receive any printed material of events taking place in the City. He noted the brochure for the McVicker Skateboard Park reflected a youth on a skateboard with no helmet. Chairman Uhlry offered the public an opportunity to make comments. Page Six - Public Safety Advisory Commission Minutes - May 12, 2004 Edith Stafford, 29700 Hursh, suggested that the Commission take the opportunity to take advantage of everything that could be given to them on approval from the City Council. She commented that she would like to see a committee that had a vision. She noted that the citizens needed to be more aware of the terrorist issues and homeland security. Sam Romero, 18860 Dexter Avenue, indicated that Councilman Magee requested his presence for this meeting. He noted that where he lived there were several vehicle windows broken. He noted that he would like to get information for the Crime Watch program for his neighbors. City Manager Watenpaugh indicated that the Police Department had a Neighborhood Watch program and gave Deputy Beth Decou as a point of contact. Commissioner Hewison gave his daytime number for the record. He commented that he had some detailed notes relative to his neighborhood. He also commented that he would like to have that on the next agenda because of the approach to neighborhoods. He noted that safety near the schools and speeding on side streets was an issue. He commented that he would like to do a ride along and meet with Danny Lingo and Beth Decou. Chief Fetherolf suggested having members of the Police Department come to the next meeting to discuss what they do and the programs they have set up. Commissioner Moon commented that he agreed with Commissioner Hewison, and the Commission needed to take a look at what programs were available now and try to improve them from a citizen's point of view. He further commented that from conversations with people, Lake Elsinore has a huge Hispanic community and a lot of them do not trust the Police. He noted that they come from cultures where abuse of power is normal. He suggested finding a way to create a better relationship between the Hispanic community and law enforcement. He also noted traffic issues that needed to be addressed. He commented that there were great people in Lake Elsinore. Page Seven - Public Safety Advisory Commission Minutes - May 12, 2004 Chairman Uhlry commented on the communication with citizens. He indicated that the traffic issue was a budget issue. Commissioner Knight commented that he was a retired Captain from the Anaheim Fire Department. He commented that his daughter had become Chairman of the Board of Education for the State of California. He indicated that he has been connected to education; and noted that he would guide his vote on what was best for the citizens of Lake Elsinore. Vice Chairman Lewis commented that his goal what to help as many kids as possible. He also commented that his goal was to explore new avenues for education and help provide safety equipment to residents of Lake Elsinore. He commented that he would do everything possible to make Lake Elsinore a better place to live. Chairman Uhlry commented that he had a list of five priorities that Council had given to them for their goals. He noted some were long range and some were short range goals. He indicated that he did not want the Commission to overburden themselves by doing too much at once and not getting anything done. He suggested bringing the items back at the next meeting. City Manager Watenpaugh indicated that he would meet with Chairman Uhlry and put a staff report together. Chief Fetherolf suggested the Commission meet with him for a tour of the Police Station and Fire Department. ADJOURNMENT THE REGULAR PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISORY COMMISSION MEETING WAS ADJOURNED AT 7:00 P.M. Page Eight - Public Safety Advisory Commission Minutes - May 12, 2004 DAN UHLRY, CHAIRMAN PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISORY COMMISSION Respectfully submitted, ~r/ FREDERIC-.{./r1A Y, DEPUTY CITY CLERK! CLERK OF THE BOARD PUBLIC SAFETY COMMISSION L~ VICKI KASAD, CITY CLERK! HUMAN RESOURCES DIRECTOR CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE MINUTES PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISORY COMMISSION MEETING CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE 183 NORTH MAIN STREET LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA WEDNESDAY, JUNE 9,2004 ****************************************************************** CALL TO ORDER The Regular Public Safety Advisory Commission Meeting was called to order by Chairman Uhlry at 6:00 p.m. ROLL CALL PRESENT: COMMISSIONERS: HEWISON, KNIGHT, LEWIS, MOON, UHLRY ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE Also present were: City Manager Watenpaugh, Assistant City Manager Best, Information/Communication Manager Dennis, Chief of Police Fetherolf, Deputy DeCou and Deputy City Clerk/Clerk of the Board Ray. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Commissioner Knight. PUBLIC COMMENTS No comments. Page Two - Public Safety Advisory Commission Minutes - June 9, 2004 CONSENT CALENDAR The following item was pulled from the Consent Calendar for further discussion and consideration: Item No.2. MOVED BY KNIGHT, SECONDED BY LEWIS AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO APPROVE THE BALANCE OF THE CONSENT CALENDAR AS PRESENTED. BUSINESS ITEMS 21. Budget for Fiscal Year 2004-05. City Manager Watenpaugh gave an overview of the item. He noted that the $20,000 budget was presented as part of the General Budget at the June 8th Council Meeting. He also noted that the intent of this budget was to have a line item for Public Safety and other commissions and committees that the Council would appoint. Commissioner Hewison inquired if the budget covered the web page. City Manager Watenpaugh explained that the web page would be done internally; if Information/Communication Manager Dennis requested a consultant than the funds would be from this particular budget. Chairman Uhlry inquired if the budget also included the Planning Commission. City Manager Watenpaugh clarified that the Planning Commission had a separate budget. Page Three - Public Safety Advisory Commission Minutes - June 9, 2004 MOVED BY HEWISON, SECONDED BY LEWIS AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO APPROVE THE BUDGET AS PRESENTED FOR RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL. 22. Web Site for Public Safety Advisory Commission. City Manager Watenpaugh deferred to Information/Communication Manager Dennis. Mr. Dennis explained the approach he felt was necessary in designing a web page. He noted that he did use an outside contractor for the web design and work. Chairman Uhlry inquired if the funds for the professional and technical support would be from the Commissions budget or the Public Relations Budget. Assistant City Manager Best clarified that the funds for the web site would be from the Public Safety Commission Budget. Commissioner Moon inquired if the cost was an estimated cost. Mr. Dennis confirmed. Chairman Uhlry commented on the notation of Megan's Law and inquired if it would be on the web site due to the restriction of usage at the Police Department. Mr. Dennis explained that there would be a link to the Sheriff Department web page. Police Chief Fetherolf explained the process for usage of the database for the public. Chief Fetherolf commented that the public would not have direct access to the database. Mr. Dennis noted that the web site would only have information regarding Megan's Law. Commissioner Hewison commented that the County Sheriff Bob Doyle web page also had a Megan's Law Link. Commissioner Hewison indicated that he had worked with Mr. Dennis on a Page Four - Public Safety Advisory Commission Minutes - June 9, 2004 similar project as an RDA Committee member. He indicated that if the 12 objectives were achieved the Commission would be well ahead of most cities in the valley. He noted that he had reviewed Murrieta and Temecula and they did not hold in comparison to what the Lake Elsinore Public Safety Commission was proposing. MOVED BY KNIGHT, SECOND BY MOON AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE TO APPROVE WEB SITE RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL. 23. Neighborhood Safety Programs. City Manager Watenpaugh deferred to Chief Fetherolf. Chief Fetherolf indicated that Deputy DeCou had prepared a PowerPoint presentation. Chief Fetherolf explained the purpose and primary functions of a Problem Oriented Policing (P.O.P) Officer. He explained that the general idea of a P.O.P Officer was a problem solver. He noted that Corporal Dan Lingo was the P.O.P Officer for the City of Lake Elsinore. He also explained the responsibilities of the City P.O.P Officer. He noted the P.O.P Officer was involved in homeless intervention, assisted in DUI Checkpoints and Juvenile Programs; and assist City Code Enforcement. Officer DeCou explained the purpose of the NET Program. Commissioner Moon inquired if there were any recourse against someone who was seen dumping illegally. Chief Fetherolf commented that was a misdemeanor to dump trash; and if it was hazardous material it could possibly be tied into a felony violation. Chief Fetherolf deferred to Officer DeCou to give an overview of the City Crime Prevention. Officer DeCou explained the Crime Free Multi-Housing Program (CFMHP). She indicated that it was targeted towards mulit-family dwelling complexes within the City. She noted that the first phase was an 8 hour certification course for managers and owners. She noted the idea was for the managers/owners to be able to weed out the criminals before they come into the property which was at the application process. She noted that there was not only a credit check; but also a criminal background check that Page Five - Public Safety Advisory Commission Minutes - June 9, 2004 managers/owners could conduct. She indicated that another part of the course was Crime Prevention through Environmental Design (C.P.T.E.D). Officer DeCou explained the two different Neighborhood Watch programs in the City. She further explained that there was Neighborhood Watch that was proactive and Neighborhood Watch 911. Officer DeCou continued to list and discuss the different programs for crime prevention, she noted that this information was in the agenda packets issued to the Commissioners. Commissioner Moon inquired about the number of officers in the Elsinore Station. Chief Fetherolf explained there were a total of90 sworn peace officers including himself. Commissioner Moon inquired how many officers on any particular shift in the City. Chief Fetherolf explained that the County Sheriff Department provided the City with 95 hours of patrol time by contract; and 19 'li deputies that were being paid for by the City to accomplish the 95 hours. City Manager Watenpaugh noted that in the budget they were adding I 'li officers plus 2 motor officers for nine months. Commissioner Hewison requested clarification of the 95 hours. City Manager Watenpaugh explained that it was service hours over a 24 hour period. Chief Fetherolf noted that last year 99% of the contract was filled. 24. Public Safety Brochure. City Manager Watenpaugh deferred to Assistant City Manager Best. Assistant City Manager Best gave an overview of the item. She noted that the proposal was for approximately $5,000 to $7,000. She indicated that the proposal was an authorization for budgetary issue so staff could make a recommendation to the City Council. She noted that the discussion at the last meeting regarding a brochure that combined various programs in the City for easy reference for residents. MOVED BY MOON, SECONDED BY HEWISON AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO APPROVE STAFF RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL. Page Six - Public Safety Advisory Commission Minutes - June 9, 2004 25. Public Safety Masthead. City Manager Watenpaugh deferred to Assistant City Manager Best. Assistant City Manager Best gave an overview of the item. She indicated that at the previous meeting there were discussion regarding a Masthead; and staff was asked to bring a staff report back to discuss the issue. She noted that after researching, it was discovered that the Planning Commission did not have their own Masthead and uses the general letterhead that was page 3 of 4 of the agenda item. She noted that it could serve the same as it does for the current Planning Commission. She also noted that if the Commission chose their own Masthead it could be easily be reproduced on the laser printer at City Hall. MOVED BY LEWIS, SECONDED BY MOON AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO APPROVE DRAFT MASTHEAD FOR RECOMMENDATION TO CITY COUNCIL. ITEM PULLED FROM CONSENT CALENDAR 2. Vehicle Impound Cost Recovery Fee. Chairman Uhlry indicated that the Vehicle Impound Cost Recovery Fee for the past several years for the City of Lake Elsinore had been $45.00 and the Sheriff $50.00. He noted that recently the fee for the County was raised to $64.00 and was raised again within a week to $68.00. He noted that the City was still at $45.00. City Manager Watenpaugh commented that under Municipal Code Section 12.14.090 the rate was reviewed annually and updated and approved by the Riverside County Board of Supervisors, which was an automatic increase. He indicated that he would send this information to the City's Finance Department for their update. MOVED BY UHLRY, SECONDED BY KNIGHT AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO RECEIVE AND FILE. Page Seven - Public Safety Advisory Commission Minutes - June 9, 2004 SPECIAL EVENTS City Manager Watenpaugh noted that the list of events was in the agenda. CITY MANAGER COMMENTS City Manager Watenpaugh thanked Officer DeCou for her presentation. CHIEF OF POLICE COMMENTS Chief Fetherolf commented that he would like to schedule a tour of the Police Station and a patrol ride on the Lake. COMMISSIONER COMMENTS Commissioner Knight commented that he was impressed with staff and their willingness and efforts to accomplish the goals set forth. He noted that there was a new fire station being planned in the general budget. He suggested allowing the public name the fire station. Commissioner Lewis commented that he was excited about the progress and thanked the City Manager for the calendar of events. He complimented Officer DeCou on her presentation. He commented on an article he read relating to graffiti and crime increase in areas that had graffiti. He noted that he would not be able to attend the next Commission meeting due to a prior engagement. He commented that he was noticing a lot of children riding bicycles without helmets. Commissioner Hewison commented that he was impressed with the presentation. He indicated that he would like to have Officer DeCou do a presentation in Tuscany Hills. He noted that he would be interested in working with HOA's and Neighborhood Watch and he was interested in getting more information about the Youth Court. Page Eight - Public Safety Advisory Commission Minutes - June 9, 2004 Commissioner Moon commented that he would also be absent for the next meeting due to a prior engagement. He indicated that he noticed that in neighborhoods where crime had decreased there were vines and crawlers on the block walls to prevent graffiti. He inquired if the City had a program to help prevent graffiti. City Manager Watenpaugh indicated that the first step would be to require a condition on new development, any new block walls would be part of the landscape requirement. City Manager Watenpaugh noted that the City did have a Graffiti Technician that went out and removed a lot of graffiti from public property and private property with permission of the property owner. Chairman Uhlry thanked Officer DeCou for the presentation. He commented on the importance of citizen patrol and that it might reduce the number of accidents in the City. ADJOURNMENT THE REGULAR PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISORY COMMISSION MEETING WAS ADJOURNED AT 8:00 P.M. ~ DAN UHLRY, CHAIRMAN PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISORY COMMISSION Page Nine - Public Safety Advisory Commission Minutes - June 9, 2004 Respectfully submitted, MI/ ~ERicf' RAY, DEPUTY CITY CLERK! CLERK OF THE BOARD PUBLIC SAFETY COMMISSION A~j~ r~ VICKI KASAD, CITY CLERK! HUMAN RESOURCES DIRECTOR CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE MINUTES PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISORY COMMISSION MEETING CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE 183 NORTH MAIN STREET LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA WEDNESDAY, JULY 14, 2004 ************************************************************* CALL TO ORDER Chairman Uhlry called the Public Safety Advisory Commission Meeting to order at 6:00 p.m. ROLL CALL PRESENT: COMMISSIONERS: HEWISON, KNIGHT, UHLRY ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: LEWIS, MOON Also present were: Assistant City Manager Best, Lake & Aquatic Resources Director Kilroy, Information/Communications Manager Dennis, Chief of Police Fetherolf, and Clerk of the Board Ray. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Commissioner Knight. PUBLIC COMMENTS No comments. CONSENT ITEMS MOVED BY HEWISON, SECONDED BY KNIGHT AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR AS PRESENTED. 1. The following Minutes were received and ordered filed: Page Two - Public Safety Advisory Commission Minutes - July 14, 2004 a. Public Safety Advisory Commission - July 14, 2004. BUSINESS ITEMS 21. Status Update on Public Relations Materials. Assistant City Manager Best gave an overview of the item. She deferred to Information/Communications Manager Dennis for a more detailed review. Mr. Dennis indicated that the letterhead had been completed; and the brochure was in the beginning stages. Mr. Dennis commented that he had reviewed other cities, existing Public Safety Advisory Commission web pages. He indicated that Lake Elsinore was in fact going beyond what other cities were currently doing. He noted many of them did not have any type of interactive feed back portion. He noted that the Long Beach Commission had an annual report on their web page that summarized their major accomplishments. He further noted that the Long Beach Commission had a good purpose statement that helped to explain what the Commission did and did not do. He also noted that he felt these were just a few examples that this Commission could consider. He commented that the cost might be much lower than what was originally estimated. Commissioner Hewison indicated that the staff report listed cities outside the Southwestern Riverside area and questioned if there were any in the local area. Mr. Dennis explained that when he conducted the web search he used keywords which would have listed all the cities that had this type of Commission. He noted that the City of Lake Elsinore came up in the search. Commissioner Hewison advised if the Commission continued to institute some of the objectives they have listed, then the Commission would be well ahead of other cities in the area. Mr. Dennis concurred. Assistant City Manager Best noted that the City of Temecula had a Traffic Safety Commission, but she was not aware if they dealt with public safety issues or only traffic safety relative to roadway issues; and the City of Murrieta had other types of Commissions, but she did not believe they had one labeled Public Safety. Page Three - Public Safety Advisory Commission Minutes - July 14, 2004 Chairman Uhlry commented that any report that might go onto the website should have a link. He suggested a web page that was user friendly. Police Chief Fetherolf suggested a positive graphic that illustrated, or at a minimum related to the subject matter being discussed. He noted that it would need to be reviewed from a design perspective and a content perspective. Commissioner Knight commented that Mr. Dennis covered a number of perspectives from other cities; and he was confident in Mr. Dennis to bring back at terrific web design. 22. Operational Safety Design and Costs for LERA Boat Launch. Assistant City Manager Best gave an overview of the item. She deferred to Lake & Aquatic Resources Director Kilroy for a more detailed review. Mr. Kilroy advised that the City needed to take advantage of the $3 million multi year grant from the Department of Boating and Waterways. Mr. Kilroy gave a detailed report of the history of the boat launch, and provided a copy of the original layout for the redesign of the boat launch. Mr. Kilroy explained the layout, and noted that it was a 6 lane launch with 3 boarding floats. He indicated that it was always functional down to a 1228 feet elevation down to the boat ramp, but was now only functional at the 1240 foot as, there was slope up to 1256. Mr. Kilroy indicated that the Boating and Waterways grant would only cover rehabilitation of the boat launch and had nothing to do with the peninsula or the marina area. He noted that staff went back and reviewed operational safety of those two features and came up with a new design. He indicated that the new design reflected some removal of the peninsula and retention of a breakwater ending near the horseshoe marina; with the fill material being used to raise the elevation of the parking lot, restroom facilities, and all other associated boat launch facilities; and gently grading from the higher elevation to the lower elevation. Mr. Kilroy indicated that the cost to complete this version was $7.5 million. He advised that anything over the $3 million grant was a burden to the City. Page Four - Public Safety Advisory Commission Minutes - July 14, 2004 Commissioner Knight requested clarification of the amount the City would need to fund. Mr. Kilroy clarified it would be $4.5 million. Assistant City Manager Best noted that there were capital improvement projects in the general fund at about $900,000 which were allocated to help complete the original version of the design for the campground and boat launch. Commissioner Hewison questioned how the grant would be disbursed. Mr. Kilroy explained that the phase 1 allocation was $817,000, and it would be similar amount for the next 2 years. Commissioner Hewison inquired if the $3 million would cover the boat launch rehab. Mr. Kilroy explained it would take $4 million. Commissioner Hewison inquired where the significant cost for the project came into play. Mr. Kilroy explained that the significant cost was in the dredging, extra fill and the cost of the sheet pile. Commissioner Hewison inquired if the rehabilitation of the marina was part of the $7.5 million. Mr. Kilroy noted it was not and the actual cost for the marina would be $14 million. Assistant City Manager Best noted that staff was researching additional grant funds from Boating & Waterways given the fiscal condition of the State. She further noted that Mr. Kilroy had been doing significant work on that possibility of having the concessionaire contribute funds to go toward the project with a correlation and extension of the concession lease. Commissioner Hewison commented on a marina that Hamilton was possibly going to build. Chairman Uhlry requested brief background on Hamilton so the other Commissioners were also aware of this project. Assistant City Manager Best explained that the project was for the inflow channel of the lake, it was not a public marina; but it was a marina that had slips that would allow for a retail boat outlet, which would allow people to pull up to the slips and eat at the restaurants, shop and get back in their boat and head back out to the lake. Commissioner Hewison inquired if it was possible for the City to partner with a private business to make the project work. Mr. Kilroy indicated that could be a possibility. Commissioner Knight commented that from a safety stand point the breakwater should be the first issue. He indicated that if the breakwater issue could not be solved then forget the marina. Mr. Kilroy reiterated that the marina was not part of this discussion, but the concept to do away with the breakwater all together, and away with the peninsula as much of it as Page Five - Public Safety Advisory Commission Minutes - July 14, 2004 possible. He indicated that the current boating channel went down to an elevation of 1226 feet. Chairman Uhlry requested clarification that the marina was not being discussed. Mr. Kilroy confirmed and reiterated that this was the breakwater and boat launch. Chairman Uhlry advised that the Commission and Council needed to solve the whole problem in that area. Chairman Uhlry noted that he agreed with the idea of having steel plates. He indicated that with the current lake elevation it might be possible to begin a portion of this process and possibly include the steel plates within the next two years depending on the availability of funds. Commissioner Knight indicated that he saw no consideration for prevailing winds from the west and currents in the lake. He inquired if there was any safeguard against higher winds and waves. Mr. Kilroy indicated that the purpose of the breakwater was to attenuate some of that current wave action. Commissioner Hewison inquired if Mr. Kilroy felt the rock solution was the cheapest. Mr. Kilroy suggested that the best idea would be to bring a number of ideas to a marine engineer. Mr. Kilroy indicated that the cost for the engineer to go through this process was estimated at $15,000; and he felt it would be worth the expenditure to explore some lower cost alternatives that would fit the City's design criteria of operational safety. Commissioner Hewison indicated that he was reluctant to recommend to the Council that they spend $15,000 and still find out the project could not move forward due to the funding involved. Chairman Uhlry indicated that he was concerned with the costs of the dredging in the three alternatives presented to the Commission in their packet. Chairman Uhlry indicated that whatever was done to solve the immediate problem would be helpful for the overall construction. Chairman Uhlry commented on the work Noble Consultants had done regarding issues with the lake and his familiarity with the lake and its inherent problems; and noted that very few lakes have the problems that our lake encounters. Chairman Uhlry indicated that he was hesitant about bringing in Page Six - Public Safety Advisory Commission Minutes - July 14, 2004 an out of state consultant. Assistant City Manager Best suggested completing Item No. 22 before discussing Item No. 23. Commissioner Knight indicated that he would like to see the project built. He further indicated that he had faith in the City of Lake Elsinore that the project would be here. MOVED BY KNIGHT TO APPROVE RECOMMENDATION TO THE COUNCIL TO MOVE FORWARD. Chairman Uhlry indicated that there was a motion on the table and if it was not seconded the motion would die. MOTION DIED FOR LACK OF A SECOND. Commissioner Hewison indicated that he was reluctant to support a motion that was for the full $7.5 million without giving guidance to potential bidders not to submit a bid that was at $7.5 million because there were not enough funds available. He commented that he would rather have something happen now in solution terms rather than nothing. He questioned the ability to get a proposal on the table that would enable Mr. Kilroy to request Council approval to receiving funding for only a portion of the dollar amount actually needed. Mr. Kilroy commented that the final cost was unknown until we got to that point. He suggested going back to the drawing board if the Commission wanted an even lower cost alternative than was in their packet. Commissioner Hewison inquired if it was possible to receive a phased implementation. Mr. Kilroy advised that the only portion that could definitely be phased was the marina area, as the boat launch and peninsula had to be done as one. Assistant City Manager Best commented that Mr. Kilroy was hopeful of getting a recommendation from the Commission that would allow for staff to get Mr. Noble and his staff to come back and review those alternatives, some which he had already done. Page Seven - Public Safety Advisory Commission Minutes - July 14, 2004 MOVED BY HEWISON, SECONDED BY KNIGHT AND CARRIED BY UNANMIOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO APPROVE A $15,000 CONSULTANT FEE TO NOBLE CONSULTANTS THAT WOULD ENABLE THE CITY CONTRIBUTION AND GRANT FUNDS TO MOVE FORWARD ON A PROPOSAL TO IMPROVE THE SAFETY IN THE BOAT LAUNCH AREA THAT WILL ALLOW BREAKWATER DEVELOPMENT AND AN IMPROVEMENT ON THE PENNISULA ON A PHASED BASIS THAT WOULD COME IN AT A COST BELOW $7.5 MILLION. 23. Scope of Services for Lake Safety Assessment. Assistant City Manager Best gave an overview of the item. Lake & Aquatic Resources Director Kilroy gave a detailed briefing of the item. Mr. Kilroy indicated that after speaking with the JPA they had recommended Mr. Tom Ebros. Mr. Kilroy commented that it was apparent from his curriculum vitae that he was a qualified aquatic safety expert to review a number of issues related to lake safety. Mr. Kilroy referred to the outline given to the Commissioners and reviewed a few of the items the Aquatic Safety expert would be asked to research. Commissioner Hewison indicated that he was a recruiter and his job was to review resumes. He noted that he compared the skill against the scope of the job. He also noted that Mr. Ebros was weak in a lot of areas. He indicated from reviewing his background there was no indication that he ever worked on a lake. He noted that if we needed someone to look at City swimming pools Mr. Ebros would be a front runner. Commissioner Hewison commented on a few details listed in Mr. Ebros resume. Commissioner Hewison inquired to what extent Mr. Kilroy could do an initial analysis. Mr. Kilroy indicated that he could put together a report on all the issues he believed affected lake safety. Commissioner Hewison questioned the need to hire an outside company or individual to complete this study. Assistant City Manager Best commented that it was the Council belief that staff needed to go outside and have this study done. Page Eight - Public Safety Advisory Commission Minutes - July 14, 2004 Chairman Uhlry noted that Mr. Ebros had worked for Los Angeles County. Commissioner Hewison indicated that he did not believe that L.A. County had a 24 year old individual as their Senior Safety Official. Commissioner Hewison commented that there was a little creative embellishment in the resume. Police Chief Fetherolf agreed with Commissioner Hewison. Chief Fetherolf indicated that the resume reflected highly inflated and elaborate language discussing his lack of specific expertise. Chief Fetherolf indicated that this concerned him. Commissioner Knight indicated that if Council had decided to hire an outside consultant, no matter what the Advisory Commission recommendation was, then the Advisory Commission did not have to give a recommendation to someone they did not feel was qualified. Assistant City Manager Best noted that the lake assessment was in the current budget. She indicated that she agreed with the Commission that Mr. Ebros had as much ability combined with a couple of the past lake sergeants to look at lake safety issues on the lake and put together a fairly complete report that would protect the public and the City and allow for a positive use of our lake; although this Commission might not choose to like the individual the JPIA had recommended. She believed that there was still the opportunity for the Commission to look at the outline before them as to what issues should be considered and offer Mr. Kilroy some recommendations as to how to expand or modify that particular outline. Chairman Uhlry agreed and noted that the selection of the individual was not the decision of the Commission. Chairman Uhlry indicated that the slow no wake zone and the hazard markers were already set by the Coastguard. He indicated that he was not sure why the Commission was reviewing a standardized marking system that was already in place nationally. Assistant City Manager Best suggested including Mr. Kilroy, Sergeant Sharpa, LEMSAR Representative, and a Coastguard Representative as a small committee that the JPIA could look at as being a committee of experts that could provide the services listed and go through the list per their Page Nine - Public Safety Advisory Commission Minutes - July 14, 2004 recommendation of what should be analyzed; and could possibly meet the needs of the lake assessment. Chairman Uhlry indicated that he agreed with Assistant City Manager Best. He indicated that might be better than hiring a consultant that was half qualified. Police Chief Fetherolf questioned if the Commission was trying to second guess the Council, or if the Council asked staff to go outside for expertise because they felt staff did not have the expertise in house. He noted if staff felt we had the expertise within than developing the committee as suggested would be the appropriate way to go, if the answer was in a negative, then he would recommend to the Commission to table the item to the next month and do some research to find out who really had the expertise. Assistant City Manager Best noted that whoever was entitled to do this analysis and study would need to be approved by the JPIA. Commissioner Hewison inquired who and when this came before Council. Mrs. Best indicated that this had been an issue for the last couple of years. She indicated that there was discussion at the time the City entered into the Concession with Pyramid that there would be an assessment done. She noted that they had done an assessment of the beach area, but they did not do an entire lake safety assessment nor was there anticipation that they should; and this item was mentioned at some of budget study sessions by Councilmembers. Commissioner Hewison indicated that he agreed with Police Chief Fetherolf. Mr. Kilroy suggested narrowing the scope of focus. Commissioner Knight commented that as far as he was concerned the City had an expert (Mr. Kilroy). MOVED BY HEWISON, SECONDED BY KNIGHT AND APPROVED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO RECOMMEND THAT STAFF SPEND THE NEXT MONTH IDENTIFING A LAKE SAFETY EXPERT AND IN IDENTIFYING THE CANDIDATES THAT THE SCOPE BE REDUCED TO BE SPECIFICALLY LINKED TO SAFETY ALONG LAKE SHORE AND IF A COMPETENT EXPERT IS NOT IDENTIFIED THEN THE PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISORY COMMISSION SHOULD REDISCUSS HOW THIS ISSUE SHOULD BE HANDLED. Page Ten - Public Safety Advisory Commission Minutes - July 14, 2004 ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER COMMENTS Assistant City Manager Best commented that staff appreciated the service the Commission provided to the community and reminded everyone of Lake Elsinore's first Sister City event with a community in Tahiti that wished to be the Sister City to Lake Elsinore. CHIEF OF POLICE COMMENTS Police Chief Fetherolf commented that in the month of September the Police Department would be prepared to instruct the Commission on the gang issues in Lake Elsinore and how his office intended to handle them. COMMISSIONERS COMMENTS Commissioner Hewison commented that he would like to remind the Commission they were appointed to serve as a conduit of information from the residents and businesses. He commented that he was concerned that sometimes the Commission was inward looking and not outward enough. He noted the memo that was given to the Commission from residents in past months and there were some concerns that they believed the Commission was addressing those issues and the Commission had not addressed the memo. He suggested getting a system in place so those issues could be addressed and a response given to the residents. Police Chief Fetherolf suggested making the memo an agendized item for the next meeting. Commissioner Hewison further commented that by addressing issues the residents were concerned with would probably get residents to attend the Public Safety Advisory Commission Meetings. Assistant City Manager Best commented that a couple of the items on the memo were issues for some of the operational divisions in the City that could handle those items and staff could provide a memo to the Commissioners without waiting until the next meeting. Commissioner Hewison commented that at the first meeting it was indicated by staff that any complaints received would be distributed to the Commission members and to City Hall. He noted that Vita Boyce sent an email to the City questioning the role of the Public Safety Advisory Commission. He noted that he had received a phone call at home from Mrs. Boyce asking him what happened, but the Commissioners had not received a copy of this email and Page Eleven - Public Safety Advisory Commission Minutes - July 14, 2004 he had received one today from a Councilmember. He requested that if any issue arose from the public relative to public safety, it be distributed to the Commission so that they were aware. Assistant City Manager Best commented that she was not aware of an email. Chairman Uhlry also indicated that he was not aware of this email. Commissioner Hewison noted that the City Manager copied Assistant City Manager Best on his response. Mrs. Best indicated that she would need to go back and check her emails. Police Chief Fetherolf noted that the City put a weekly report together each week and suggested something similar to that for the Commission of items of concern that was raised by residents Commissioner Knight commented that he appreciated staff and thanked staff for the work they do. Chairman Uhlry commented that he picked up a copy of a presentation regarding racial violence which was becoming a problem in some of the schools and inquired if the Commission wanted to take a look at this issue on the next agenda. ADJOURNMENT THE PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISORY COMMISSION WAS ADJOURNED AT 8:00 P.M. 2J~ DANIEL UHLRY, CHAIRMAN PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISORY COMMISSION Page Twelve - Public Safety Advisory Commission Minutes - July 14, 2004 Respectfully submitted, ~~Y' CLERK OF THE BOARD PUBLIC SAFETY COMMISSION A T'E ST: ~ )/ II VIC~ ~~, CITY CLERK! HUMAN RESOURCES DIRECTOR CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE MINUTES PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISORY COMMISSION MEETING CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE 183 NORTH MAIN STREET LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 8, 2004 ************************************************************* CALL TO ORDER Chairman Uhlry called the Public Safety Advisory Commission Meeting to order at 6:00 p.m. ROLL CALL PRESENT: COMMISSIONERS: HEWISON, KNIGHT, LEWIS, MOON, UHLRY ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE Also present were: City Manager Watenpaugh, Assistant City Manager Best, Information! Communications Manager Dennis, Chief of Police Fetherolf, and Clerk of the Board Kasad. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Commissioner Lewis. PUBLIC COMMENTS No comments. CONSENT ITEMS MOVED BY KNIGHT, SECONDED BY HEWISON AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR AS PRESENTED. Page Two - Public Safety Advisory Commission Minutes - September 8, 2004 1. The following Minutes were received and ordered filed: a. Public Safety Advisory Commission - July 14, 2004. City Manager Watenpaugh commented that he and the City Clerk had been in discussion in regards to the quantum of minutes going through with the Public Safety Commission, Task Force Committees, and long Council Meetings. He further commented that the Clerk was going to be looking into a stenographer to actually transcribe minutes, so they could be brought back quicker. He indicated the Council minutes from the last meeting were nearly a hundred pages. BUSINESS ITEMS 21. Report from Lake Elsinore Police Department Gang Team. Chairman Uhlry deferred to Police Chief Fetherolf. Police Chief Fetherolf explained that the discussion would explain the Gang Unit, staffing of the Gang Unit and give an idea of gang enforcement and some education about what gangs were in the City. He introduced Deputy Robert Kwan and Deputy Justino Flores. Deputy Flores gave some background on his career. He indicated that he was appointed to the Gang Unit two years ago. Deputy Kwan gave some background on his career. He indicated that he was appointed to the Gang Unit three years ago. Deputy K wan indicated that on a monthly basis they attended different meetings and attended different associations; and noted that some were hard to get into. He noted that he would feel comfortable going to any part of Riverside County and testifying as an expert on gangs. He noted that gangs were setup in suppression and intelligence. He noted that intelligence was gathering information about the gang members and suppression was physically going after the gang members. Page Three-Public Safety Advisory Commission Minutes - September 8, 2004 Police Chief Fetherolf commented that to be a Peace Officer and testify in Court went hand in hand; but to be a Peace Officer and testify as an expert witness was another story and both deputies were considered expert witnesses on the issues of gangs. Deputy Kwan indicated that there were two major gangs in Lake Elsinore which were Elsinore Young Classics (EYC) and Elsinore Vato Locos (EVL) which were predominantly Hispanic in both gangs. He commented on some of the smaller gangs in the area. He gave the definition of "gang". He indicated that gangs were not of African American, Asian, Hispanic, or Caucasian culture, but part of a criminal culture, and it was a nature of criminals to band together. He noted that gangs were formed in defense. He noted the Gang EYC was a truck club in the mid-80's and was soon fighting between EVL gang members and the 4 Comers Hustler Crips and as a car club they had to band together to protect themselves, so eventually they evolved into this gang. He indicated gangs multiply by dividing. He noted that the three R's of gang culture were Respect, Reputation, and Retaliation. He indicated that Respect and Retaliation were the biggest. He noted that murder would put a gangmember at the top of the ladder. He noted that majority of the EYC members come from single parent homes barely making it, or not making it at all. He noted that kids were growing up by themselves due to the cost of living. He indicated that graffiti was a clear marking of territory boundaries. He indicated that the EYC and EVL were different than gangs in other cities. He further indicated that most gangs claim a street or a certain area, but EYC and EVL claim the whole City of Lake Elsinore. He indicated that the current age range was 11 to 14. He indicated that last year a lot of the Original Gangster guys were incarcerated and would be serving a lot of time. He indicated that a gangmember would receive a higher sentencing in Riverside County for a stolen vehicle than a gang member in Los Angeles County that committed murders. Police Chief Fetherolf clarified that if they were known gangmembers with previous offenses and they stole a car, the theft of the car would not qualify for that kind of extreme sentencing, but because of gang affiliation and previous history, and if the experts can prove they were gangmembers that would be the reasoning for the increased sentencing. He indicated that more Page Four - Public Safety Advisory Commission Minutes - September 8, 2004 gangmembers were dressing like ordinary people, and using hand signs less than in the past due to gang enhancements. He indicated that everything that happened in the street was dictated by what happened in the State prison system. He indicated that one of the big Hispanic issues in the prison system was that there were no more drive by shootings. The way it was explained was that there were no brown on brown drive by shootings, which was put out by the Mexican Mafia. Deputy K wan explained that he and Deputy Flores attended classes and belonged to associations that covered the issue of tattoos. He noted that a tattoo would tell you everything about a person. He indicated that when gangmembers were in court they grew their hair out and put on a suit to hide the tattoos; and it was his job to prove the individual was a gangmember, and that was the reason for taking photos or confiscating photos for evidence. Deputy K wan noted that the main prison gangs were the MMA, Nuestra Familia, Arien Brotherhood, Black Gorilla Family, and the Nazi Lowriders. He reiterated that whatever these five gangs said was conducted in the street. He indicated that these groups were in almost fulllockdown in the prison system, as they were locked down for 23 'li a day and received 'li hour to do exercise, but they still managed to control the streets. Deputy Kwan commented that Murrieta and Temecula did not have a Gang Unit, but they had gangs. He also commented that when the gangs start to grow within the next two years they will be about ten years behind. He explained that the Lake Elsinore Gang Unit was educated in the different races of gangs. He indicated that Murrieta had a lot of Asian gangmembers, but most cities would not admit they have a gang problem. Vice Chairman Lewis inquired if there was a hotline for citizens to call regarding gang issues. Deputy K wan indicated that they could call the front desk and the call would be transferred to the Gang Unit desk. He commented that they give their cards out at a lot of places. Mr. Lewis suggested putting contact information on the Public Safety Commission website. Deputy K wan indicated that they would prefer to speak with Page Five - Public Safety Advisory Commission Minutes - September 8, 2004 citizens directly. He indicated that anyone could leave information on emails. He further indicated that the information they gather is also used in court cases. Vice Chairman Lewis suggested the possibility of changing the Lake and areas around the Lake to make them less desirable for gangmembers that currently reside in the area and for those from outside the area. Deputy Flores indicated that he did not have an answer. He commented that people would travel during the holiday weekends. Deputy K wan indicated that the majority of the gangmembers that come from other areas did not do crimes out here; and our local gangs do not go into the campgrounds looking for trouble. He noted that on holiday weekends there was extra patrol for the campgrounds. Police Chief Fetherolf commented that the gangs in the LA area were much more territorial than the gangs currently in Lake Elsinore. City Manager Watenpaugh offered a response to the desirableness of the Lake area. He indicated that the City was currently working with the concessionaire on a new concession agreement, which they were looking to spend almost $17 million to upgrade the facility. He indicated that would change the clientele of the facility. He noted that individuals would not be able to ride in on a motorcycle or car and spend the night, if they did not have an upscale motor home. He noted that there would still be a tent area. He commented that from the police reports he heard, there were more problems with normal citizens at the campground getting drunk and fighting than gangmembers. Vice Chairman Lewis commented that he had heard the most deadly gangmembers in Lake Elsinore were fourteen years of age. Deputy K wan indicated that currently the ages were from 9 to 17. Vice Chairman Lewis questioned the gang issues at school and if the Gang Unit did any type of gang awareness at the schools. Deputy Kwan indicated that upon request by the schools they do go to the schools and do a presentation. Deputy Flores added that the older gangmembers recruit the younger kids because the punishment is less if they commit the crime. Page Six - Public Safety Advisory Commission Minutes - September 8, 2004 City Manager Watenpaugh inquired if the gangmembers were afraid of taking out a police officer. Deputy Kwan commented they were not afraid to take out a police officer. Deputy K wan indicated that the parents needed to know their kids friends and pay more attention to the clothing their children were wearing and any tattoos they might have. Commissioner Moon inquired if the City took pictures of the graffiti before it was removed. Commissioner Hewison inquired how severe the punishment was, when the gangmember was 10 or 11 years of age. Deputy K wan indicated that the punishment was through the Juvenile Department. Police Chief Fetherolf indicated that it was not much prevention and it was many factors that impacted the equation. Mr. Hewison asked Deputy K wan to explain the definition of street crime. Deputy Kwan explained that the crimes referred to the assault with deadly weapons, attempted murders, possession of handguns or any type of weapons. Commissioner Hewison commented that the stats for Lake Elsinore were well documented because of the Gang Unit and it was possible that Murrieta and Temecula problem might be worst than what it seemed. City Manager Watenpaugh commented that Lake Elsinore crime stats were high because of the Lake Elsinore Police Department and the Gang Unit. Deputy Kwan indicated that a lot of the gangmembers have migrated out of Lake Elsinore to other surrounding cities. Police Chief Fetherolf indicated that constant pressure was the key. Deputy K wan indicated that under Penal Code 18622 every charge under this penal code was a strike. He also commented that 18622A allowed them to charge an individual for being a gangmember. Chairman Uhlry commented that the Deputy K wan and Deputy Flores in his opinion the most knowledgeable in Riverside County if not all of Southern California. Page Seven- Public Safety Advisory Commission Minutes- September 8, 2004 MOVED BY ULHRY AND SECONDED BY MOON AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO RECEIVE AND FILE THE REPORT ON THE GANG TEAM. 22. Citizens Volunteer Safety Patrol. City Manager Watenpaugh gave an overview of the item. Mr. Watenpaugh indicated that the staff report before the Commission included information on the Citizen Patrol Units for Moreno Valley and Temecula. He indicated that staff was requesting direction from the Commission. He suggested a presentation. Commissioner Hewison suggested including neighborhood watch presentations as an ongoing item. Chairman Uhlry indicated that he viewed neighborhood watch and citizens patrol as different entities. Commissioner Hewison commented that he understood the two were separate, but he was concerned with not knowing where in the City neighborhood watch was been utilized. City Manager Watenpaugh commented that Deputy DeCou had that information and staff could provide it. Commissioner Hewison commented that this issue was brought to his attention numerous times while out in the community. Police Chief Fetherolf suggested gathering more information and getting some costs from the other agencies. Vice Chairman Lewis made a motion that the Commission review the possibility of creating the patrol, finding a funding source and locating the other areas that had done this and had been successful. Chairman Uhlry indicated that the motion died for lack of a second. Chairman Uhlry commented that he agreed with Police Chief Fetherolf that information should be collected. City Manager Watenpaugh indicated that the information could be gathered from other counties if the Commission so desired and bring back complete packets along with the budgets and the staffing information. Chairman Uhlry suggested once the information was gathered, Police Chief Fetherolf could give his recommendation. PAGE EIGHT - PUBLIC SAFETY MINUTES - SEPTEMBER 08,2004 Commissioner Hewison indicated that Temecula was able to get a lot of their program funding by homeland security grants. Chairman Uhlry indicated that the Lake Elsinore City Council was willing to put this into the budget. Police Chief Fetherolf indicated that this was a big project. CITY MANAGER COMMENTS City Manager Watenpaugh commented that the Identification cards issued to the Commissioners were for ID purposes only and carried no authority. He noted that he had received phone calls from citizens. He thanked the Commission for their support of staff. He indicated that he would be out of the office for the next 4 to 6 weeks. CHIEF OF POLICE COMMENTS Police Chief Fetherolf commented that in the month of September the Police Department would be prepared to instruct the Commission on the gang issues in Lake Elsinore and how his office intended to handle them. COMMISSIONERS COMMENTS Commissioner Knight commented that he appreciated the work of Deputy K wan and Deputy Flores. Commissioner Lewis thanked the Deputies for their presentation. He commented that he would like the Deputies to come visit one of the Youth Court sessions. Commissioner Moon thanked the Deputies for their presentation. He further commented that they were appreciated in the community. Commissioner Hewison thanked the Deputies for their presentation. He indicated that per the Minutes of the last meeting there were items that were due to be on the agenda that were not on the agenda. He commented that he had attended Youth Court and more volunteers were needed. He indicated that he was approached by Jim Rails; and he was asked as part of the punishment, could the kids deliver fliers. He indicated that he had spoken to the Tuscany Hills Page Nine - Public Safety Advisory Commission Minutes - September 8, 2004 Board and they welcomed Jim to make a presentation on September 22nd. He indicated that the Commission agreed in June, 2004, that staff was working on a 90 day web site time line and wanted to ensure everyone was on track. He also indicated that the Commission agreed in July, 2004, that Lake & Aquatic Resources Director Kilroy would report back in the 30 days with some additional resume qualifications or some additional individuals that he identified that could complete the work and neither of these issues was discussed this evening. He also indicated that his memo that had been floating around for some months would not have to wait until the next meeting, but a memo would be issued before this meeting. He commented that he would like to get a brief outline of the fire and code enforcement programs, which were part of the overall briefing. City Manager Watenpaugh indicated that the RFP was out for the Lake & Aquatic Resources Department. Assistant City Manager Best indicated that at the last meeting in July there was a copy Commissioner Hewison's memo provided to the Commission. She further indicated that if there were items they would like added to the agenda as a Commission they go through the comment process, three of the Commission together have the opportunity together if they would like to have an item added to the next agenda they could take that action. Commissioner Hewison recited a section of the July 14, 2004, Public Safety Commission Minutes. Chairman Uhlry commented that some of the memos or contacts that they receive and forward on to the City Manager and Police Chief are then sent out for a deputy to handle, so there were lor 2 that the Commission was not aware of. He suggested a memo in the Commissioners packet so they would be aware of what transpired. He suggested a brief summary, nothing detailed. City Manager Watenpaugh suggested giving the Commission a copy of the weekly memorandum. Page Ten - Public Safety Advisory Commission Minutes - September 8, 2004 ADJOURNMENT THE PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISORY COMMISSION WAS ADJOURNED AT 8:00 P.M. oJ:6~ DANIEL UHLRY, CHAIRMAN PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISORY COMMISSION Respectfully submitted, ~j)/ FREDERIcl( RAY CLERK OF THE BOARD A TT ST: ti J/ \ VICKI KAS~, CITY CLERK! HUMAN RESOURCES DIRECTOR CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE MINUTES PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISORY COMMISSION MEETING CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE 183 NORTH MAIN STREET LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 13, 2004 ************************************************************* CALL TO ORDER Chairman Uhlry called the Public Safety Advisory Commission Meeting to order at 6:00 p.m. ROLL CALL PRESENT: COMMISSIONERS: HEWISON, KNIGHT LEWIS, UHLRY ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE Also present were: Assistant City Manager Best, Information/Communication Manager Dennis, Chief of Police Fetherolf, Fire Chief Gallegos, Planning/Code Enforcement Manager Villa, Senior Code Enforcement Officer Gordon, Code Enforcement Officer Scofield, Code Enforcement Officer Slater, and Clerk of the Board Ray. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Commissioner Knight. OATH OF OFFICE Deputy City Clerk Ray administered the Oath of Office to Commissioner Arnold. Commissioner Arnold took his place at the dais. PUBLIC COMMENTS Edith Stafford, 29700 Hursh, Lake Elsinore congratulated Commissioner Arnold and wished the Commission luck. Page Two - Public Safety Advisory Commission Minutes - October 13, 2004 CONSENT ITEMS MOVED BY KNIGHT, SECONDED BY LEWIS AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR AS PRESENTED. Commissioner Hewison indicated that there was a grammatical error on page 8. 1. The following Minutes were received and ordered filed: a. Public Safety Advisory Commission - September 8, 2004. BUSINESS ITEMS 21. Presentation by Lake Elsinore Fire Department. Fire Chief Gallegos introduced himself and gave some background information about his career. He then gave a brief overview of the presentation. He indicated there was a large number of city contracts that the Fire Department maintained. He indicated that they served 1,545,000 residents in the area. He indicated that there were 1,500 career and volunteer personnel in Riverside County and last year they responded to 102,000 incidents and was increasing 10,000 to 12,000 each year. He indicated that they operated 93 fire stations soon to be 94 with the Railroad Canyon Station. He indicated that Medical responses were almost 75% of the work in the Fire Department, hazardous material was a small percentage, and fire was about 14.5%. He indicated that service goals were to provide basic emergency medical services and facilitate transportation within one hour. He advised that the response time goals were 5 to 7 minutes. He indicated that the goals were to aggressively attack fires and hold losses to a minimum. Fire Chief Gallegos commented that the City and County assisted each other on fires. He showed a diagram which reflected the City Page Three - Public Safety Advisory Commission Minutes - October 13, 2004 boundaries. He indicated that there was a significant hole between Station 9, Station 10, and Station 60 located in the Rosetta Canyon area. He indicated that they were in the process of trying to identify a station in that area that would adequately cover that gap. He indicated that there were some overlap areas in particular the Highway 74 Station overlapped with the Cottonwood Station and Station 10 definitely overlapped. Fire Chief Gallegos commented that all the engines had a paramedic onboard, 24 hours a day 7 days a week. He indicated that a lot of cities were starting to do the same thing. He suggested scheduling a time to take all of the Commissioners on a tour of the Fire Department. Commissioner Lewis inquired if there was a breakdown of the medical emergencies. Chief Gallegos indicated that he did not have that readily available. Commissioner Lewis indicated that he would like the Commission to get that list from the Fire Department. Commissioner Lewis also requested having a representative from the Fire Department attend the meetings. Fire Chief Gallegos advised that members of the Fire Department were always on call and he did not have an administrative body that would regularly be available to attend the meetings. He indicated that he would work on providing an individual, but if the individual was called they would need to leave. Commissioner Lewis suggested that Fire Chief Gallegos provide a list of 10 issues that would be most beneficial to the Fire Department over the next 12 months. Commissioner Hewison requested a copy of the presentation. He inquired if the ratio of 1,500 firefighters to 1.5 million residents was a standard ratio. Fire Chief Gallegos explained that the ratio was not conducted the same as law enforcement, with a standard, of officer to citizen. Fire Chief Gallegos further explained that they reviewed the response times and building stations; and stations were not always staffed at the same levels Commissioner Arnold commented on the fires in Southern California and inquired about a mechanism to link to other fire fighting capability outside of the local area. Fire Chief Gallegos explained there were Northern Ops and Southern Ops and part of Southern Operations was an ordering point, so if Page Four - Public Safety Advisory Commission Minutes - October 13, 2004 you have a fire in San Diego or Lake Elsinore they would go to the command center and request resources and those requests were put through to Southern Ops, which would allow them the whole State from which to pull resources. He indicated that the further north you went the longer the response time for those resources. He indicated that there were capabilities to go anywhere in the country for resources, which was controlled by the Federal Government. Commissioner Hewison requested that Fire Chief Gallegos describe a truck, engine, and squad in Fire Department terminology. Fire Chief Gallegos explained that the truck companies required a 75 foot or larger ladder, they carried 110 feet of base ladders, 4 personnel along with a lot of specialized equipment. An engine carries 3 personnel and has 60 feet of ground ladders, and 500 gallons of water. A squad is usually volunteer owned equipment and carries specialized rescue equipment and does not carry any hose or water. Commissioner Lewis inquired if the Fire Department had any specialized training for handling terrorist threats. Fire Chief Gallegos indicated that there was no standard response plan, but there were guidelines related to terrorist threats. He indicated that they would work closely with law enforcement. Assistant City Manager Best commented that the City was currently working on the construction of Station 94. She also commented that all City staff goes through the EMS training program which is done annually. Commissioner Knight commented that he spent 34 years in the Fire Service and the hiring process was stringent and those guys could handle anything thrown in front of them. Chairman Uhlry suggested naming Station 94 in honor of Chief Harvey French for his years of service to the City of Lake Elsinore. Chairman Uhlry indicated that he also had 15 years in Fire Service. Page Five - Public Safety Advisory Commission Minutes - October 13, 2004 Commissioner Arnold inquired about arson investigations. Fire Chief Gallegos indicated that they have a prevention staff. He indicated that there were seven investigators through the County and their office was located in Perris. 22. Presentation by Lake Elsinore Code Enforcement Division Assistant City Manager Best gave an overview of the item. Mrs. Best introduced Planning/Code Enforcement Manager Villa. Planning/Code Enforcement Manager Villa introduced the Code Enforcement Officers to the Commission. He indicated that the presentation would outline the duties, responsibilities, mission statement, goals and the authority issued by the City Council for Code Enforcement to enforce and maintain compliance with all the laws and ordinances adopted to date. He indicated that throughout their daily activities they investigated a number of cases. Planning/Code Enforcement Manager Villa indicated that the Code Enforcement Division was made up of the Division Manager, 3 Code Enforcement Officers, 2 Primary Officers for nuisances and Citywide investigations, and 1 Officer that deals with enforcing the traffic program and 1 Office Specialist. He indicated that this division deals with 1,800 to 2,000 proactive and reactive investigations and complaints per year. Mr. Villa indicated that some of their duties and responsibilities were to provide Municipal Code compliance and enforcement services to the citizens of Lake Elsinore. He indicated that the overall approach was to achieve code compliance by drawing the property owner attention to any existing code violation, which could have a negative impact on their property, their neighborhood, and the City as a whole. He advised that Code Enforcement did have the authority to enforce through monetary penalties in the event of noncompliance. Mr. Villa recited Lake Elsinore Municipal Code (LEMC) Section 1.200.15; and he reference Section 1.6 regarding the ability to arrest. He also noted Page Six - Public Safety Advisory Commission Minutes - October 13, 2004 Resolution No.2003-07, which outlined the fines for infractions. He indicated that there was a Senate Bill that passed recently that offered legal protection for Code Enforcement Officers, which gave them the same protection as a Peace Officer. Mr. Villa showed a diagram that reflected the five working programs they had developed to achieve the duties and tasks that were placed upon this Division. He introduced Senior Code Enforcement Officer Gordon and indicated that she would be giving an overview of the Nuisance Abatement and Structure Abatement Programs. Senior Code Enforcement Officer Gordon indicated that the Nuisance Abatement Program was set up to address the maintenance standards the Council would like to see in the various neighborhoods. She indicated that the process normally included a complaint received by Code Enforcement or viewed by a Code Enforcement Officer; and once the complaint was received it would be logged in and prioritized; and then assigned to a Code Enforcement Officer who then goes to the location and inspects. She indicated that at the time of inspection if there was a violation then the property owner would be given a citation. She further indicated that the property owner would be given a period of time to correct the problem and a re-inspection would be given at a later date if the problem still existed the property owner would be given a 5 day warning notice; and after reviewing the property for the third time if the problem still existed they would issue a $100 citation to the property owner and Code Enforcement would continue citing up to $500 if the violation was not corrected and Code Enforcement did have the option of placing the property in a Nuisance Abatement hearing; and if declared a nuisance then the City could obtain an abatement warrant and go onto the property and remove the violation. She indicated that they could also pursue criminal prosecution. Senior Code Enforcement Officer Gordon indicated that the Structure Abatement Program was set up to help identify structures that were so unsafe that they could not be occupied. She indicated that in some cases the structures were being occupied and Code Enforcement would need to vacate the people or if vacant, Code Enforcement must make sure no one moves Page Seven-Public Safety Advisory Commission Minutes - October 13, 2004 back into the structures. She advised that the owner or interested parties in the property were notified. She indicated that if the property was not brought into compliance then the City would obtain an abatement warrant, have an asbestos inspection, demolish the building, and proceed with the abatement of the property. She advised that all costs would be placed as a lien on the property. Planning/Code Enforcement Manager Villa introduced Code Enforcement Officer Sean Slater and indicated that he would be giving an overview of the Abandoned Vehicle Abatement Program. Code Enforcement Officer Slater indicated that abandoned vehicles were normally vehicles that were left on the street or on private property. He indicated that Code Enforcement reviewed the information and decide if the vehicle was abandoned. He indicated that they notified the local law enforcement to verify if the vehicle has been stolen, if determined to be stolen the case is turned over to the local law enforcement and Code Enforcement withdraws completely; and if the vehicle was abandoned and not stolen Code Enforcement notify the property owner if the vehicle was on private property. If the vehicle was on public property the City would contact a towing agency and notifies the DMV and the registered owner of the vehicle; and the lien holder. He advised that the State would reimburse for the cost. Planning/Code Enforcement Manager Villa introduced Code Enforcement Officer Brian Scofield and indicated that he would be giving an overview of the Parking Enforcement Program. Code Enforcement Officer Scofield indicated that Parking Enforcement was comprised of various sections of the California Vehicle Code and the Lake Elsinore Traffic Code. He indicated that the proactive and reactive approach was utilized in the program. He indicated that Street Sweeping enforcement, vehicles posted for sale, and commercial vehicles unlawfully parked in residential zones were the most common from LEMC. He indicated that vehicles parked blocking the sidewalk, vehicles parked on the street facing the wrong direction, and vehicles unlawfully parked in disabled parking Page Eight- Public Safety Advisory Commission Minutes - October 13, 2004 stalls were the most common from the California Vehicle Code. Code Enforcement Officer Scofield commented on the devices used to issue parking citations and noted that once the information was issued he did not have the authority to void the ticket. He advised that once a citation was issue the registered owner of the vehicle could request an administrative review and if the individual did not agree with the outcome of the administrative review they could then request a formal hearing which was conducted at City Hall. Mr. Villa indicated that Senior Code Enforcement Officer Gordon would be giving an overview of the Neighborhood Enhancement Team NET Program. Senior Code Enforcement Officer Gordon indicated that all individuals that filed complaints names and information were kept confidential to prevent neighborhood disturbances. She indicated that the NET Program was collaboration between Lake Elsinore Code Enforcement and the local Police Department. She explained that it was a proactive approach that the City paid for to go into a targeted area and clean up a number of houses at one time. She indicated that flyers were sent to at least 300 homes in a targeted area; and then two weeks later there was a big clean up and all the property owner needed to do was bring the items out to the curb; and then CR&R disposed of the items. She indicated that after the clean up the Sheriff Department and Code Enforcement went back to the neighborhood and checked to see if the violations of property owners had been taken care of; and if not the property owner would receive a full page of a notice of violation giving them an additional week to correct the violations. She indicated that the first project there were 127 flyers distributed, 71 tons of trash were hauled off with a cost to the City estimated at $8,800. She indicated during the re-inspection of this project they issued 67 violation corrections; and when they returned a week later they issued 6 citations. She indicated that the statistics were incredible. Chairman Uhlry inquired if the cleanup reduced the crime activity in those particular areas. Police Chief Fetherolf explained it was the "Broken Windows" theory. He indicated this theory went back to the 1970's, the theory was that if you went into a neighborhood and there were a lot of Page Nine - Public Safety Advisory Commission Minutes - October 13, 2004 broken windows; if the windows were repaired and properties were cleaned up the properties were less apt to be vandalized. Planning/Code Enforcement Manager Villa commented that all of the Code Enforcement Officers received training on a regular basis. He indicated that they were well trained in professional conduct. Commissioner Hewison commented that he had noticed the Officers out conducting business. Commissioner Hewison inquired about the lot next to the Calvary Church on Graham Avenue. Mr. Villa indicated that the property owner did go before the Nuisance Abatement Board and was declared a nuisance, the Board gave them 30 days to cleanup and the time had expired. He indicated that a letter would be sent out allowing the property owner an additional 15 days. Chairman Uhlry advised that the presentation was on Code Enforcement and their duties, not specific problems within the City. Vice Chairman Lewis complimented Code Enforcement on the work and their uniforms. He inquired who was responsible for parking problems at the school sites. Chairman Uhlry reiterated that those were specific problem areas and needed to be addressed during the Commission comments portion of the meeting. Assistant City Manager Best indicated that the School District was operated independently from the City. Police Chief Fetherolf indicated that there were now two motor officers in the City and they were working Mon - Fri. He further indicated that one of his responsibilities was taking complaint and making his presence known. Vice Chairman Lewis inquired if Code Enforcement was responsible for street vendors. Mr. Villa indicated that most street vendors come in on the weekends; and that was part of Code Enforcement responsibilities. Vice Chairman Lewis inquired if there was an ongoing list of what the most frequent calls were. Senior Code Enforcement Officer Gordon indicated that dumping was big on the list and inoperable vehicles. Vice Chairman Lewis indicated that in the neighborhood clean up, there might be elderly and disabled citizens that needed help getting items to the curbs. He suggested Page Ten - Public Safety Advisory Commission Minutes - October 13, 2004 allowing the kids in the Youth Court Program that were looking for community service hours to help. Chairman Uhlry inquired if Code Enforcement because of the right of entry for inspection of property, saw a felony violation, gave them probable cause legally to bring in the Sheriffs Department. Mr. Villa indicated that the warrant they received for inspection was very specific. Police Chief Fetherolf indicated that Code Enforcement were not to be the eyes and ears of the Police Department. He indicated that it was a very delicate situation. Assistant City Manager Best commented on the wealth of experience in the Code Enforcement Division. Chairman Uhlry inquired about the ongoing complaints he had been receiving regarding street sweeping. Assistant City Manager Best indicated that the Council had called a Study Session specifically on that issue. She indicated that it was scheduled for October 28,2004. Chairman Uhlry requested Mr. Villa address the current policy and the way it was handled and why. Mr. Villa explained that it was an Ordinance that essentially had signs posted in neighborhoods. He indicated there was no parking from 8 a.m. to 2 p.m. He further indicated that they sometimes ended up redoing the street. Chairman Uhlry indicated that the training of employees especially those involved in code enforcement and law enforcement were not only necessary, but mandatory for them to be current on the new laws and procedures. He advised that all training available to Lake Elsinore Code Enforcement personnel when possible financially be taken advantage of. MOVED BY UHLRY AND SECONDED BY LEWIS WITH A VOTE OF 4 TO 1 WITH HEWISON ABSTAINING THAT THE EMPLOYEES, ESPECIALLY THOSE INVOLVED IN CODE ENFORCEMENT, AND LAW ENFORCEMENT WHEN POSSIBLE, TAKE ADVANTAGE OF ALL TRAINING AVAILABLE. Community Development Director Brady complimented Planning/Code Enforcement Manager Villa and his division on the excellent work they have Page Eleven-Public Safety Advisory Commission Minutes- October 13, 2004 been doing in the community. He also thanked the City Council for expanding the funding for the program to allow for the additional officer and the Office Specialist position. INFORMATION ITEMS 31. Neighborhood Watch/Crime Free Housing Map. Assistant City Manager Best gave an overview of the item. She indicated that the Map consisted of all neighborhood Watch Programs that were monitored through the Police Department. Vice Chairman Lewis thanked staff for the map and requested the location name of the different tracts. Assistant City Manager Best indicated that staff could identify those particular tracts. Commissioner Hewison thanked staff for the report. 32. Citizen Volunteer Safety Patrol. Police Chief Fetherolf gave an overview of the item. He indicated that the report included the programs in Riverside County. Chairman Uhlry suggested having some type of guidelines at the November meeting to start working on the issue. Police Chief Fetherolf suggested that as the Commissioners reviewed the information that they list some ideas, and put something together at the next meeting. Assistant City Manager Best gave the option of emailing their ideas to Susan Reid in the City Manager's Office she would put the ideas in a packet. Vice Chairman Lewis indicated that there was a Deputy at the Sheriffs Department that was conducting Neighborhood Watch Meetings and questioned if it would be beneficial that the Commissioner attended the meetings. Page Twelve-Public Safety Advisory Commission Minutes- October 13, 2004 33. Response to Commissioner Hewison's Memo. Assistant City Manager Best gave an overview of the item. Commissioner Hewison thanked staff for putting this item on the agenda. CITY MANAGER COMMENTS Assistant City Manager Best welcomed the new Commissioner. She reminded everyone of the Street Sweeping Study Session. She thanked the staff of both the Fire Department and Code Enforcement Division for their presentation. CHIEF OF POLICE COMMENTS Police Chief Fetherolf commented on the prostitution arrest made by the Police Department. He welcomed the new Commissioner and invited him on a tour of the Police Department. COMMISSIONERS COMMENTS Commissioner Knight inquired if there was a connection between the Code Enforcement and Fire Department to complete the triangle between Code Enforcement, Fire Department and Sheriff Department. Fire Chief Gallegos commented that it was complete and his department works well with Code Enforcement. Vice Chairman Lewis thanked Fire Chief Gallegos and the Code Enforcement Division for their presentations. He also complimented Assistant City Manager Best on her performance while acting as City Manager. Vice Chairman Lewis again commented on the Neighborhood Watch meetings held at the Police Department and inquired if the Commission should attend a few of the meetings. Police Chief Fetherolf commented that the Commission was welcome to sit in on the meetings. Vice Chairman Lewis commented that he would like to meet with Senior Code Enforcement Officer Gordon to possibly schedule something with Youth Court. Police Chief Fetherolf gave a brief description of the Youth Court Program. _ Page Thirteen-Public Safety Advisory Commission Minutes- October 13, 2004 Commissioner Arnold thanked everyone for the warm welcome. He indicated that it was good to see a community instead of devouring itself, was attempting to reinvent itself, by taking the resources and children and other aspects of life here in Lake Elsinore and turning it into something positive rather than throwing their hands up in despair. Commissioner Hewison welcomed Commissioner Arnold. He clarified that the Nuisance Abatement hearing was the third Tuesday at 5 p.m. He indicated that there were two outstanding items. He indicated that the Lake Department was due to identify a Lake expert within 30 days and was currently running almost 90 days on that issue; and he requested an update at the November meeting. He requested an update on the brochure from Information/Communications Manager Dennis at the November meeting. He indicated that he would be at the Street Sweeping Study Session, it was clearly posted and tough. He indicated that he abstained on the training issue because he did not feel as though he knew enough. He indicated that conceptually he supported training. He suggested a section in Outlook to keep the community more informed on issues they felt were frustrating. Chairman Uhlry commented that he attended the League of Cities and spoke with officials of Los Angeles County. He indicated that Los Angeles had 461 gangs. He indicated that he attended a Weed and Seed Program, which was a grant program. He indicated the concept was to go into an area with learning disabled children. He indicated the reason they found for some of the disabilities were that they could not afford eyeglasses, the cities involved spend $5,000 - $6,000 on each family involved. Chairman Uhlry indicated that he was informed that there was a speeding problem developing on Heald between Lindsey and Chaney. He welcomed the new Commissioner. _ Page Fourteen-Public Safety Advisory Commission Minutes- October 13, 2004 ADJOURNMENT THE PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISORY COMMISSION WAS ADJOURNED AT 8:30 P.M. (/JJA DANIEL UHLRY, CHAIRMAN PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISORY COMMISSION Respectfully submitted, ~II FREDERKIf RAY CLERK OF THE BOARD ATT ST: ULD VICKI KASAl), CMC, CITY CLERK! HUMAN RESOURCES DIRECTOR CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE MINUTES PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISORY COMMISSION MEETING CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE 183 NORTH MAIN STREET LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA WEDNESDAY, NOVEMBER 10, 2004 ************************************************************* CALL TO ORDER Chairman Uhlry called the Public Safety Advisory Commission Meeting to order at 6:00 p.m. ROLL CALL PRESENT: COMMISSIONERS: ARNOLD, HEWISON, KNIGHT, UHLRY ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: LEWIS Also present were: Chief of Police Fetherolf, and Clerk of the Board Ray. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Commissioner Arnold. PUBLIC COMMENTS None. CONSENT ITEMS MOVED BY HEWISON, SECONDED BY KNIGHT AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR AS PRESENTED. 1. The following Minutes were received and ordered filed: Agenda Item No. Page of _ Page Two - Public Safety Advisory Commission Minutes - November 10,2004 a. Public Safety Advisory Commission - October 13,2004. BUSINESS ITEMS 21. Citizen Volunteer Safety Patrol. Chairman Uhlry introduced the item. Police Chief Fetherolf gave an overview of the item. He gave some background information on the Harvest Valley Citizens Patrol, which was a private entity that worked throughout Riverside County. He introduced Harvest Valley Citizens Patrol President Robert Gibbons. Mr. Gibbons, Harvest Valley Citizens Patrol President, thanked the Commission for allowing him to give the presentation. He gave the history of the formation of the Citizen Patrol. He indicated that one of the main issues of forming the organization was due to the fact of not being able to get the Sheriff s Department to their location when needed. He indicated that the vehicles were donated by the Sheriff s Department. He indicated that presently there were 162 members, 58 that were Sheriff trained and qualified to drive a patrol car to do what was necessary to help the community. He indicated that the Citizen Patrol help in other areas such as blocking off crowds at crime scenes or traffic accidents. He indicated that they were also utilized to help the Fire Department. He indicated that they were an asset to the community. Mr. Gibbons indicated that he had never been in law enforcement. He also indicated that he would be willing to help organize a Citizen Patrol for Lake Elsinore. He noted that he wrote the by-laws and the Operations Manual for the Harvest Valley Citizens Patrol. He indicated that each qualified individual must go through a Sheriff background check. Commissioner Arnold inquired about some of the problems that initiated the need for a Citizen Patrol. Mr. Gibbons indicated that speeding along Highway 74 was an issue. He further indicated that there were a lot of drug related issues in their community. He also indicated that the Citizen Patrol could be a witness but could not get involved; and he stressed that was something that each volunteer needed to understand. He indicated that they Agenda Item No. Page of _ Page Three - Public Safety Advisory Commission Minutes - November 10,2004 did not carry any type of weapon. He indicated that was the reason for uniformed Sheriff Deputies. He indicated that they have a set phone number that allowed them to have communication with a Deputy right away. He indicated that they were covered under worker's compensation. He gave an overview of the daily functions which involved a driver passenger combination and a Watch Commander. He indicated that the patrol was required to report to the Watch Commander every half hour. He indicated that they document unsafe homes and code enforcement issues. He further indicated that they take pictures of these issues and turn them over to Code Enforcement. He indicated that they have a form for families that go on vacations to complete and turn in to the Citizens Patrol. He noted the patrol monitor the home until the family returns from vacation. He advised that they were the eyes and ears of the Sheriff s Department and they were not to get involved. Commissioner Hewison questioned if there was an optimum population range when a community should consider a citizen patrol. Mr. Gibbons indicated they patrolled 45 square miles before including Nuevo, now with Nuevo it was an additional 15 square miles. He indicated that there was discussion of including Winchester. He indicated that Nuevo has their own patrol, but was umbrellaed under Harvest Valley. Mr. Gibbons indicated that the cars were provided by the Sheriff Department. Chairman Uhlry inquired about the population of the 45 square miles area currently being patrolled. Mr. Gibbons indicated that the Harvest Valley population was approximately 10,000 to 12,000; and Nuevo was approximately 2,800 in population. He indicated that the growth in the Harvest Valley area was going to be tremendous next year. Police Chief Fetherolf questioned the funding source. Mr. Gibbons indicated that when the County asked his organization to pick up Nuevo and Winchester, he inquired about a funding source. He indicated that the Citizens Patrol pays for the gas, maintenance and painting of the vehicles. Agenda Item No. Page of _ Page Four - Public Safety Advisory Commission Minutes - November 10, 2004 He indicated that he was told the organization would receive a grant. He further indicated that the organization applied for the grant and received a $10,000 (CDBG) grant from the County. He indicated that they have conducted yard sales and Bingo. He indicated that the organization paid for all radios in the vehicles and the monthly bill. He indicated that the Sheriffs Department paid for the insurance on the vehicles. Police Chief Fetherolf inquired if there was a certification for training. Mr. Gibbons indicated that they were required to give 40 hours of training to every volunteer, not including CPR and first aid. He indicated that they provided their own classes for CPR and first aid certification. He indicated that the initial training was provided by the Sheriff s Department; and now the training was conducted internally. He indicated liability insurance was covered for the board members; and the others were paid for through the Sheriffs Department. Mr. Gibbons reiterated that this was an all volunteer organization. Police Chief Fetherolf questioned the accessibility of Sheriff Facilities. Mr. Gibbons advised they did not have access to those facilities. Chairman Uhlry inquired who determined the areas that needed to be patrolled. Mr. Gibbons indicated that the current requirement was to cover every area the vehicle could go into. Commissioner Arnold questioned if there were other groups that existed in the area and if so, what kind of coordination was in place to deal with territorial issues. Mr. Gibbons indicated that there was a good communication level that existed among the organizations. Commissioner Hewison inquired if it was an on call system or shift system. Mr. Gibbons indicated that it was shift system. Commissioner Arnold inquired if there were HAM operators on the patrol staff. Mr. Gibbons confirmed there were. Police Chief Fetherolf inquired if there was any oversight provided by the Sheriffs Department. Mr. Gibbons indicated there was none. Chief Fetherolf inquired about the organizations role in regards to the disaster Agenda Item No. Page of _ Page Five - Public Safety Advisory Commission Minutes - November 10,2004 preparedness response. Mr. Gibbons indicated that his organization had been instructed by the Fire Department and Police Department on what they would be requested to do and how. Chief Fetherolf inquired if the organization had participated in any DR T training with the Fire Department or Sheriffs Department. Mr. Gibbons indicated they had not at this time, but anticipated doing so in the future. Commissioner Arnold inquired if anyone in the organization had been to the California Specialized Training Institute or worked with hazmat. Mr. Gibbons indicated not that he was aware of. Chairman Uhlry deferred to the Commission to offer suggestions for direction to Police Chief Fetherolf. Commissioner Hewison suggested a Study Session. Police Chief Fetherolf indicated that historically policing the 1960' s, 1970' s, and 1980' s police departments typically were not interested in what the public thought. He indicated their relationship with the public was strained at best and not very productive. He indicated with the introduction of the community policing concept starting in the early 80's, police departments had become more open. He indicated that more eyes and ears were needed in the community, but they did not need individuals trying to be Police Officers when they were not. He indicated if a group was formed then there would need to be a very strict oversight of that group by some entity. Chairman Uhlry indicated that the Sheriff s Posse was an organized volunteer group in the Sheriff s Department; and that they wore the same uniforms as a Sheriffs, but he did not envision the Citizens Patrol wearing a Sheriff uniform. He inquired if Police Chief Fetherolf had envisioned an organization similar as far as control of activities. Chief Fetherolf indicated he preferred the model Mr. Gibbons patrol was structured under, because they were identified with the Sheriffs Department by virtue of their patch; and it was in the best interest of the City to keep the Citizens Patrol separate from the Police/Sheriff Department. Agenda Item No. Page of Page Six - Public Safety Advisory Commission Minutes-November 10,2004 The Commission agreed unanimously to have a Study Session, at I :30 p.m., Tuesday, November 30, 2004, at the Sheriffs Station in the Community Room. CITY MANAGER COMMENTS None. CHIEF OF POLICE COMMENTS Police Chief Fetherolf commented on the tour of the Lake given to Commissioner Arnold. COMMISSIONERS COMMENTS Commissioner Hewison commented that December was the completion of the six months in which the Commission would submit a report to Council and suggested using the December meeting to prepare a report; and give a presentation at the first January Council Meeting. Commissioner Arnold commented that he had inquired about business cards at City Hall. He indicated that he spoke with City Manager Watenpaugh and was told that he would put a request into the Mayor to consider the issue. Commissioner Knight commented that he would be out of town for the January meeting. Chairman Uhlry commented that the issue with the expert on the Lake was to be brought back in 30 days and now it was 120 days, but staff was not present to comment. He indicated that he would pursue the issue. Commissioner Hewison indicated that it would be good to get a monthly update on the items. Chairman Uhlry indicated that he did speak with Information/Communications Manager Dennis regarding the brochure. He indicated that Council had just approved the new computer which was essentially the brain for City Hall's computer system and he was waiting for that to be installed. He indicated Mr. Dennis would bring Agenda Item No. Page of _ Page Seven - Public Safety Advisory Commission Minutes - November 10,2004 something back at the December meeting. Chairman Uhlry indicated that he had been getting some complaints about speeding on Heald Street between Limited Avenue and Chaney Street. Police Chief Fetherolf indicated that the radar trailer was in the location today. ADJOURNMENT THE PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISORY COMMISSION MEETING WAS ADJOURNED AT 8:00 P.M. @~~.. .., Ie' !rp DANIEL UHLRY, CHAIRMAN PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISORY COMMISSION Respectfully submitted, ~/./ FREDERiCK RAY CLERK OF THE BOARD A TTE T: 8- r~LJ VICKI ~AD' CMC, CITY CLERK! HUMAN RESOURCES DIRECTOR CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE Agenda Item No. Page of MINUTES PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISORY COMMISSION MEETING CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE 183 NORTH MAIN STREET LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA WEDNESDAY, DECEMBER 8,2004 ************************************************************* CALL TO ORDER Chairman Uhlry called the Public Safety Advisory Commission Meeting to order at 6:00 p.m. ROLL CALL PRESENT: COMMISSIONERS: ARNOLD, HEWISON, LEWIS, KNIGHT, UHLRY ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE Also present were: City Manager Watenpaugh, Assistant City Manager Best, Information/Communications Manager Dennis and Clerk of the Board Ray. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Vice Chairman Lewis. PUBLIC COMMENTS None. CONSENT ITEMS None. Agenda Item No. Page Of _ Page Two - Public Safety Advisory Commission Minutes - December 8, 2004 BUSINESS ITEMS 21. Citizen's Volunteer Safety Patrol. City Manager Watenpaugh indicated that Chief Fetherolf had formalized the items on the board during the Study Session. He indicated that the staff report included an outline. He indicated that there were issues that needed to be researched ranging from structure to legal issues. He indicated that the Advisory Commission first needed to determine if the City should have a Citizen's Safety Patrol Program. Chairman Uhlry requested feedback from the Commission on the idea of a Citizen's Safety Patrol. Chairman Uhlry indicated that he had a problem with the list. He questioned how the Commission could determine what the City wanted to do, if they did not know what they wanted to do. City Manager Watenpaugh commented that staff proposed the question, does the Commission wish to pursue researching the pros and cons of a Public Safety Patrol. Commissioner Knight indicated that after reviewing the questions he felt that the program might fail due to lack of volunteer and other issues. He questioned the pursuit of something that might fail. Vice Chairman Lewis indicated that he was opposed to the idea initially, but after reading some of the promotional brochures supplied by some of the Cities that had implemented the Citizen Patrol he felt it was an issue the Commission should spend more time researching. Commissioner Arnold indicated that it was appropriate to continue the study of a Safety Patrol. He suggested studying the idea from a useful perspective. Chairman Uhlry indicated that he had already been approached by citizens that wanted to be involved. Agenda Item No. Page Of _ Page Three - Public Safety Advisory Commission Minutes - December 8, 2004 Commission Hewison indicated that he agreed with the comments made from Commissioner Arnold. He suggested moving forward and evaluating the value of the volunteer force. He commented that H.O.P.E. would not exist if not for volunteers. He also commented that he was aware of the difficulty of recruiting good volunteers. City Manager Watenpaugh indicated that there was a deadline approaching regarding Homeland Security Grants, which could help fund this kind of a program; but he was not sure of the actual deadline. City Manager Watenpaugh suggested staff putting together a program and presenting it to the Commission. He indicated that it would take less time if staff presented a draft program that the Commission could pick apart. Chairman Uhlry agreed with City Manager Watenpaugh. Commissioner Hewison indicated that he had done some research; and had gathered some information from the National Association of Citizens on Patrol, which he would provide to each Commissioner and staff on how to start a Citizen Patrol Organization. He suggested a draft proposal from staff aligned with the information from the Association. Chairman Uhlry commented that there were Citizen Patrols throughout the State and there was no need to reinvent the wheel. Commissioner Knight inquired if this were active, if members of the Commission would be willing to volunteer. Three members of the Commission commented that they would. Commissioner Arnold commented that it made sense to go along in the beginning for a period of time, to make sure it was operating properly. Commissioner Knight indicated that the information he reviewed led him to believe that most of the volunteers were elderly and retired individuals. Chairman Uhlry indicated that most inquiries he had received were from middle aged citizens. Commissioner Arnold indicated that he believed there was considerable interest in the community. Agenda Item No. Page Of _ Page Four - Public Safety Advisory Commission Minutes - December 8, 2004 MOVED BY LEWIS, SECONDED BY ARNOLD AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE, TO HAVE CITY STAFF PUT TOGETHER A DRAFT REPORT FOR A CITIZEN PATROL TO BE REVIEWED AND DISCUSSED AT THE JANUARY 12TH MEETING. 22. Public Safety Advisory Commission Update. City Manager Watenpaugh gave an overview of the item. He indicated that Commissioner Hewison had put together a status report. He indicated that staff was prepared to give an update on the items Commissioner Hewison had referenced. City Manager Watenpaugh indicated that there was some brief information on the web page. He indicated the follow up had come in from the consultant earlier today. He indicated that the brochure was in the final draft stage, but there were some blanks; and the next portion was the directory which had not been finalized. City Manager Watenpaugh indicated that the Lake Elsinore Boat Launch Safety Design cost would be on the Council Agenda for December 14th to approve the $3 million grant from Boating & Waterways and as a part of that the City had just received the study that the Commission had authorized for the additional work on the boat launch area for safety. City Manager Watenpaugh indicated that in regard to the Lake Safety Assessment, Lake & Aquatic Resources Director Kilroy had indicated to him that he had found someone with water safety experience. Assistant City Manager Best indicated that the Commission did act to request that the Safety Study focus primarily on Lakeshore Drive and the area around the boat launch, but she believed that Mr. Kilroy after following up with the City's IPIA and other sources, had found that the City needed a broader scope for a Safety Study. She indicated that it might not be funneled in the smaller focus that the Commission had requested. Chairman Uhlry indicated that he believed the intent of the Commission was the area where the five deaths had occurred. He indicated that area was the primary area and had to Agenda Item No. Page Of _ Page Five - Public Safety Advisory Commission Minutes - December 8, 2004 be looked at hard; and that was the whole idea of the marina/boat launch fix. City Manager Watenpaugh indicated that he would qualify for the minutes that staff was improving the boat launch facility and making additional improvements for upgraded services and safety. Chairman Uhlry indicated that the Commission was looking at a long term fix for the problem. City Manager Watenpaugh indicated that the report Mr. Noble completed would provide all of those safety issues the Commission was concerned about in the boat launch/marina area; and Assistant City Manager Best was qualify in that the JP A was still looking at a broader safety issue. Commissioner Hewison clarified that it was the shoreline and not Lakeshore Drive that was being discussed. City Manager Watenpaugh corrected himself and clarified that it was the shoreline that was being discussed. Information/Communications Manager Dennis indicated that the Commission had received a draft of the brochure with some gaps which allowed some freedom to play with the contents that they might want to include. He included that staff was trying to do a lot with this and it was taking a little more time than originally budgeted. CITY MANAGER COMMENTS City Manager Watenpaugh indicated that he would be placing an order for business cards for the Commissions after the first meeting in January. He indicated that there might be an item brought back to the Commission regarding weekend transportation for the youth. COMMISSIONERS COMMENTS Commissioner Hewison commented that he had attended the Planning Commission Meeting the night before and he was concerned to hear that one of the developers was looking to put pools in the model homes. He indicated that kids were not with parents at the model home tours. Chairman Uhlry indicated that he spoke with the developer after the meeting and they were very concerned. He indicated that it was a thought the developer had and they had done it in other developments. Commissioner Hewison suggested that staff give an update on Agenda Item No. Page Of _ Page Six - Public Safety Advisory Commission Minutes - December 8, 2004 Homeland Security Grants. He complimented Information/Communication Manager Dennis on the numerous community outreach resources on the Lake Elsinore web site. Commissioner Arnold had no comments. Commissioner Lewis commented that the volunteer program had a lot of mixed messages. He indicated that he was interested in the City's marketing and promotion plan. Commissioner Knight commented that he would be out of town for the January meeting. Chairman Uhlry commented on the confusion regarding the appointments of the Public Safety Advisory Commissioners. ADJOURNMENT THE PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISORY COMMISSION MEETING WAS ADJOURNED AT 7:00 P.M. DANIEL UHLRY, CHAIRMAN PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISORY COMMISSION Agenda Item No. Page Of _ Page Seven - Public Safety Advisory Commission Minutes - December 8, 2004 Respectfully submitted, ~'7 / ~' REDEiUc~ Y, CLERK OF THE BOARD A TT ST: IJt Y J VICKI~~C, CITY CLERK! HUMAN RESOURCES DIRECTOR CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE Agenda Item No. Page Of