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HomeMy WebLinkAbout02-14-2007 PSAC MINUTES PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISORY COMMISSION MEETING CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE 183 NORTH MAIN STREET LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA WEDNESDAY, FEBRUARY 14,2007 **************************************************************** CALL TO ORDER Chairman Hewison called the Public Safety Advisory Commission Meeting to order at 6:00 p.m. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Commissioner Sund. ROLL CALL PRESENT: COMMISSIONERS: KNIGHT, NORKIN, SUND, HEWISON ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE Also present were: Information/Communications Manager Dennis, Public Works Manager Payne, Code Enforcement Supervisor Romero, Sergeant Yates, Fire Chief Hendershot and Office Specialist Porche. PUBLIC COMMENTS None CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS Chairman Hewison requested to pull item 1 b. Page 2 - Public Safety Advisory Commission - February 14,2007 MOVED BY KNIGHT, SECONDED BY NORKIN AND CARRIED BY A UNANIMOUS VOTE TO APPROVE THE BALANCE OF THE CONSENT CALENDAR AS PRESENTED. 1. The following minutes were approved: a. Wednesday, November 8,2006. c. Thursday, November 9, 2006. d. Wednesday, December 13,2006. 1 b. Thursday, November 9, 2006 Minutes. Commissioner Hewison indicated that the intent of the minutes were to produce a one-page bulletin rather than a narrative minute. He requested to hold the minutes and come back with bullet points of action. MOVED BY KNIGHT, SECONDED BY NORKIN AND CARRIED BY A UNANIMOUS VOTE TO APPROVE ITEM 1B LAKE SHORELINE SAFETY PLAN UPDATE. BUSINESS ITEMS 21. Appointment to joint PSAC/Planning Commission subcommittee on Lakeshore Overlay Districts Chairman Hewison stated that there was a meeting in December 2006. He indicated that it was agreed to form a subcommittee consisting of two members of the Planning Commission and Public Safety Advisory Commission. Commissioners Norkin and Knight volunteered. Chairman Hewison stated that he was not able to attend the meeting of December 2006 however was issued a CD of the contents of the meeting. He suggested that whoever is selected to be on the Committee, that the PSAC commissioner has a chance to look at what the goals are in the safety and land use aspect. Page 3 - Public Safety Advisory Commission - February 14,2007 MOVED BY KNIGHT, SECONDED BY NORKIN AND CARRIED BY A UNANIMOUS VOTE TO APPOINT COMMISSIONER NORKIN AND COMMISSIONER KNIGHT TO PARTICIPATE ON THE SUBCOMMITEE OF THE LAKE SHORE OVERLAY DISTRICTS. 22. Overview of the amendment to County Graffiti Ordinance 733.1 and impacts on proposed City Graffiti Ordinance (LEMC.52). Chairman Hewison requested to move forward with Item No. 23 until Assistant City Attorney Mann was present for the meeting. 23. Strategies on preventing vandalism and graffiti to bundle with proposed mid-year budget recommendations. Information/Communications Manager Dennis noted that the mid- year budget was approved. Commissioner Norkin asked how the money would be spent. Information/Communications Manager Dennis indicated that the money would be used as a placeholder. Chairman Hewison asked what areas should be looked at. Information/Communications Manager Dennis stated that the City would be looking into GIS capabilities. Chairman Hewison asked if it is like the Excel Program. Information/Communications Manager stated that it is far more advanced. Chairman Hewison stated that it should be kept in line with the Ordinance. Commissioner Norkin asked if Staff has had a chance to review it. Sergeant Yates stated "No". Page 4 - Public Safety Advisory Commission - February 14, 2007 Information/Communication Manager Dennis brought a copy of the draft budget for staff to review. Chairman Hewison asked Sergeant Yates if a spike in the graffiti had occurred. Public Works Manager Payne indicated that some spikes occurred around town. Commissioner Sund asked Public Works Manager Payne if she could do a ride along. Public Works Manager Payne indicated that he would need to get the City Manager's approval. MOVED BY NORKIN, SECONDED BY KNIGHT AND CARRIED BY A UNANIMOUS VOTE TO APPROVE THE STRATEGIES ON PREVENTING VANDALISM AND GRAFFITI TO BUNDLE WITH PROPOSED MID-YEAR BUDGET RECOMMENDATIONS. 24. Preparation of the PSAC Annual Report for year 2006. Information/Communications Manager Dennis suggested to staff to include the Annual Report for 2006 in the PSAC Agenda for their consideration. Chairman Hewison concurred. MOVED BY SUND, SECONDED BY NORKIN AND CARRIED BY A UNANIMOUS VOTE TO PREPARE AN ANNUAL REPORT OF THE PSAC FOR THE YEAR 2006. 22. Overview of the Amendment to County Graffiti Ordinance 733.1 and impacts on proposed City Graffiti Ordinance (LEMC 9.52). Information/Communications Manager Dennis indicated that normally they would wait for Assistant City Attorney Mann to discuss this item; however, it appears that he could not attend this meeting. He stated this is an overview to discuss and direct Legal Counsel to Page 5 - Public Safety Advisory Commission - February 14, 2007 incorporate the County and PSAC revisions on the City Graffiti Ordinance. Mr. Louis Davis of Southern California Edison spoke of the possible impact this would have. He indicated that SCE had previously requested a Variance from the City Manager; however, it was denied. He requested that the Ordinance be reviewed again by City Council. Commissioner Norkin stated that the City would continue to take care of the problems. He furthermore indicated that partnership is a good idea. Commissioner Sund asked Mr. Davis how long it normally takes SCE to remove graffiti. Mr. Davis indicated that they do not have a specific crew to remove the graffiti. He stated that it could take weeks or months. Chairman Hewison suggested the following to be proposed: . Increase punishment for graffiti artists . Increase rewards . Limit sales and punish repeat offenders . Include Land Use references . Identify hot-spots . Ensure Public Outreach . Get County suggestions . Continue to work with the utility companies . Address sales tax possibilities . Do not victimize the victim Chairman Hewison asked if there is a City Hotline to report the graffiti. Public Works Manager Payne indicated "Yes". Chairman Hewison recommended to staff to have a red-line copy of the amended graffiti ordinance reviewed by Assistant City Attorney Mann. Page 6 - Public Safety Advisory Commission - February 14, 2007 Commissioner Sund suggested that the City needs to work together with the County and the School District. She suggested purchasing more surveillance cameras. MOVED BY NORKIN, SECONDED BY KNIGHT AND CARRIED BY A UNANIMOUS VOTE TO APPROVE THE OVERVIEW OF AMENDED COUNTY GRAFFITI ORDINANCE 733.1 AND THE IMPACTS ON THE PROPOSED CITY GRAFFITI ORDINANCE (LEMC 9.52). 26. Overview of County Ordinance No. 858 prohibiting Fireworks. Information/Communication Manager Dennis stated that he would like the Commission to direct Legal Counsel to draft an update to the LEMC Chapter 8.52.010, Fireworks incorporating County Ordinance No. 858. Fire Chief Hendershot stated that the County Ordinance can be confusing. He stated that injuries have gone up since 1996 due to the City's growth. He stated that the fireworks are transported from Mexico. He noted that they have no regulations and are more dangerous and cause many injuries. Fire Chief Hendershot stated that this area has a huge problem with fireworks and concurred the adoption of the Fireworks Ordinance along with penalties. Commissioner Knight noted that there is only five months until the Fourth of July. MOVED BY NORKIN, SECONDED BY KNIGHT AND CARRIED BY A UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THE OVERVIEW OF THE COUNTY ORDINANCE NO. 858 PROHIBITING FIREWORKS. INFORMATIONAL ITEMS None. Page 7 - Public Safety Advisory Commission - February 14, 2007 SUBCOMMITTEE REPORTS None. CITY STAFF COMMENTS Information/Communications Manager Dennis commented on the following: 1) Introduced the new Fire Chief, Jerry Hendershot. 2) Indicated that the PSAC Commissioner's vacancy should be filled shortly. 3) Commented on the Law Enforcement budget increase. COMMISSIONER COMMENTS Commissioner Norkin commented on the following: 1) Looking forward to getting everything passed. 2) Suggests a Study Session on the Graffiti. 3) Indicated that the curbs in front of the office are not painted red for the fire hydrant. Commissioner Sund commented on the following: 1) She spoke of a new paint spray called "Simply Spray". 2) She is still looking into a citizen's patrol. 3) She congratulated Chairman Hewison for being nominated for the "Citizen of the Year". Vice-Chairman Knight commented on the following: 1) Indicated that he is now a Great-Grandfather. Chairman Hewison commented on the following: 1) Spoke of the mid-year budget. 2) Would like to see a presentation regarding gangs. 3) Recommended that City Council review the PSAC minutes. 4) Indicated that the sidewalk parking is not being reinforced and continues to see parking near the fire hydrants. Page 8 - Public Safety Advisory Commission - February 14,2007 ADJOURNMENT THE PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISORY COMMISSION MEETING WAS ADJOURNED AT 7:12 P.M. L lk.s.;~ . RON HEWISON, CHAIRMAN PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISORY COMMISSION Respectfully submitted, /) (U f2. ,/J / _ \ xt {lull- r(u'~ DANA PORCHE', OFFICE SPECIALIST MINUTES PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISORY COMMISSION MEETING CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE 183 NORTH MAIN STREET LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA WEDNESDAY, MARCH 14,2007 **************************************************************** CALL TO ORDER Chairman Hewison called the Public Safety Advisory Commission Meeting to order at 6:00 p.m. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Vice Chairman Knight. ROLL CALL PRESENT: COMMISSIONERS: KNIGHT, NORKIN, SUND, BHUTTA, HEWISON ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE Also present were: Information/Communications Manager Dennis, Legal Counsel Mann, Code Enforcement Supervisor Romero, Sergeant Yates, Fire Chief Hendershot and Office Specialist Herrington. PUBLIC COMMENTS None CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS 1. February 14,2007 Public Safety Committee Meeting Minutes. Page 2 - Public Safety Advisory Commission - March 14, 2007 MOVED BY NORKIN SECONDED BY KNIGHT AND CARRIED BY A UNANIMOUS VOTE TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR AS PRESENTED. BUSINESS ITEMS 21. Graffiti Ordinance L.E.M.C. Chapter 9.52 amendments. Information/Communications Manager Dennis indicated that the item was a request to review the draft graffiti ordinance and to address Commission's issues and concerns. Chairman Hewison stated that he would like to recommend a sub- committee to work with staff. He reviewed and discussed the changes that have been made and requested comments from the other departments. Code Enforcement Supervisor Romero discussed the fines for administrative and nuisance and suggested amending Section 8.18 of the ordinance. Commissioner Bhutta discussed the use of a graffiti camp where they educate the youth on graffiti and how everyone can do their part. He also discussed the use of a paint bank and art competition for the youth artist. Commissioner Norkin requested clarification on how many businesses there are in the area that sells paint products. Information/Communications Manager Dennis indicated that staff had not conducted a survey for the area, but it could be added that into the Commission's recommendations. MOVED BY NORKIN, SECONDED BY KNIGHT AND CARRIED BY A UNANIMOUS VOTE TO APPROVE THE GRAFFITI ORDINANCE L.E.M.C. CHAPTER 9.52 AMENDMENTS. 22. Fireworks Ordinance (LEMC 8.52) with final proposed amendment incorporating County Ordinance No. 858. Page 3 - Public Safety Advisory Commission - March 14,2007 Chairman Hewison requested that Legal Counsel Mann review his suggestions with the Commission. Legal Counsel Mann indicated that the ordinance was very well written. He recommended adopting with the exception of a few changes to the liability language. Commissioner Norkin requested an example of what would be a more strict liability. Legal Counsel Mann indicated that strict liability requires the law enforcement agency to use judgment. Commissioner Bhutta inquired how the public could be educated on the amended ordinance. Information/Communications Manager Dennis suggested printing up a marketing brochure. Commissioner Sund suggested advertising on billboards to educate the public. Chairman Hewison asked Legal Counsel Mann if we want to show the changes to a specific year. Legal Counsel Mann suggested using the wording to state "recently". Commissioner Norkin asked Information/Communications Manager Dennis if the information would be published in the quarterly City Outlook. Information/Communications Manager Dennis indicated that in order for the information to get out to the public in an efficient and timely manner, the amended graffiti ordinance and fire works ordinance would be printed in the City Outlook as well as direct mail. Page 4 - Public Safety Advisory Commission - March 14, 2007 MOVED BY BHUTTA, SECOND BY KNIGHT AND APPROVED BY A UNANIMOUS VOTE TO DIRECT LEGAL COUNSEL TO FINALIZE THE CITY COUNCIL STAFF REPORT TO INCLUDE THE COMMENTS FROM THIS MEETING AND PROPOSED ORDINANCE AMENDMENT, L.E.M.C. CHAPTER 8.52.010, FIREWORKS, FOR CITY COUNCIL CONSIDERATION AT THE REGULAR MEETING OF MARCH 27, 2007. 23. Preparation of the PSAC Annual Report for year 2006. Information/Communications Manager Dennis stated that it was the Public Safety Advisory Commissions practice to provide to the City Council a summary of the actions of taken for the calendar year. He indicated that a draft of the summary had been prepared and would be presented to the Council on March 27, 2007. He asked the Commission if they had any comments. Vice Chairman Knight indicated that the Commission had done a good job. Chairman Hewison suggested adding the joint study session count to the report, and to provide Commissioner Bhutta copies of reports on public safety on the lake and shoreline. MOVED BY NORKIN, SECONDED BY KNIGHT AND CARRIED BY A UNANIMOUS VOTE TO DIRECT STAFF TO FINALIZE ANNUAL PSAC REPORT FOR CITY COUNCIL CONSIDERATION AT THE REGULAR MEETING OF MARCH 27, 2007. INFORMATIONAL ITEMS None. SUBCOMMITTEE REPORTS None. Page 5 - Public Safety Advisory Commission - March 14, 2007 CITY STAFF COMMENTS Information/Communications Manager Dennis commented on the following: 1) Advised the Commission on the upcoming schedule for the Sub- Committee. 2) The upcoming PSAC recruiting in July 2007. 3) Live-Scan forms for the Commission. 4) March 27,2007 regular City Council Meeting. 5) Welcomed Dr. Bhutta to the Commission. COMMISSIONER COMMENTS Commissioner Norkin commented on the following: 1) Pleased with the amended graffiti ordinance. 2) Spoke on educating the citizens of the new and revised ordinances. 3) Recommended to put on the April PSAC Agenda a presentation of the lake patrol. Commissioner Sund commented on the following: 1) Welcomed Dr. Bhutta to the Commission. 2) Requested information on when the new shirts with the new City logo would be available. 3) Requested information on when the new City brochures would be available. 4) Spoke of the dedication of Serenity Park. 5) Spoke of the PT A talent show and would be raffling off an electric guitar. Vice-Chairman Knight commented on the following: 1) Spoke of the good work on the ordinances. Commissioner Bhutta commented on the following: 1) Looking forward to working with the PSAC. Page 6 - Public Safety Advisory Commission - March 14, 2007 Chairman Hewison commented on the following: 1) Spoke of the recruitment of the new PSAC members. 2) Indicated that he reduced the minutes of the meeting on the Lake Safety to bullet points. 3) Would like a lake briefing at the next PSAC Meeting. 4 ) Would like the Commission to think about other safety issues for the next month. ADJOURNMENT THE PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISORY COMMISSION MEETING WAS ADJOURNED AT 7:05 P.M. (l \k;~ RON HEWISON, CHAIRMAN PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISORY COMMISSION Respectfully submitted, i. (Clua. (' {/(Q,re ~k ' DANA PORCHE', OFFICE SPECIALIST Attest: ~CU&&dn MICHELLE SOTO, DEPUTY CLERK OF THE BOARD MINUTES PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISORY COMMISSION MEETING CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE 183 NORTH MAIN STREET LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA WEDNESDAY, APRIL 11,2007 **************************************************************** CALL TO ORDER Chairman Hewison called the Public Safety Advisory Commission Meeting to order at 6:03 p.m. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Mrs. Hewison. ROLL CALL PRESENT: COMMISSIONERS: KNIGHT, NORKIN, BHUTTA, SUND, HEWISON ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE Also present were: Information/Communications Manager Dennis, Sergeant Yates, Lieutenant Fontneau, Deputy Menchaca, Deputy Estrada, and Office Specialist Porche. PUBLIC COMMENTS John Treese of 32420 Cape Cod, Lake Elsinore expressed his concerns with the speed of traffic on Palomar. He stated that less than 10% of traffic travels less than 35 MPH. He suggested to the Commission to have speed bumps placed in the road to help reduce the speed. Page 2 - Public Safety Advisory Commission - April 11, 2007 CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS 1. Minutes March 14, 2007 Public Safety Committee Meeting Minutes. MOVED BY KNIGHT, SECONDED BY NORKIN AND CARRIED BY A UNANIMOUS VOTE TO APPROVE THE BALANCE OF THE CONSENT CALENDAR AS PRESENTED. BUSINESS ITEMS 21. Presentation: Anti-Gang Task Force (LEPD) Information/Communications Manager Dennis introduced Deputies Estrada and Menchaca who gave a presentation and briefing on the current efforts related to graffiti, vandalism and general public safety. Deputy Estrada stated that he has been working with Deputy Menchaca for over one year. He indicated that there are four gangs in the area. He stated that most of the gang members are between 16-20 years in age. He stated that most of the gangs come from the County. He noted that the Task Force has done a good job getting control of the gangs in the area. Commissioner Norkin asked the Deputies what type of crimes is the gangs usually responsible for. Deputy Estrada indicated that gangs are usually responsible for vandalism, burglary, vehicle theft and gang murder. Commissioner Norkin asked how many members are in each gang. Deputy Menchaca stated around 100 to 200 members. Commissioner Norkin asked if Murrieta and Temecula were having the same problem. Deputy Estrada stated "Yes". Page 3 - Public Safety Advisory Commission - April 11, 2007 Commissioner Sund indicated that she attended the March 3, 2007 Parent Summit which was very helpful. She asked if the Deputies would consider speaking at the middle school in the area. Deputy Estrada stated "Yes". Commissioner Bhutta indicated that according to Lake Elsinore Supervisor Bob Buster, he puts the blame on the law enforcement leaders not notifying the difficulties in Lake Elsinore. Commissioner Bhutta asked "who is he talking about"? Lieutenant F ontneau stated that he did not read the article and would not be able to comment on the topic. Chairman Hewison asked the Deputies if the problem with gangs are growing or are they it stabilized. Deputy Menchaca stated that the problems with the gangs are stabled as the task force is managing the issues on a daily basis. Chairman Hewison asked the Deputies if they have a dress code. Deputy Menchaca stated that they sometime travel undercover, however most of the time they wear a uniform. Commissioner Norkin asked the Deputies if the parents could be held responsible for the under aged gang members' actions. Deputy Menchaca stated that the parents could be held liable. He stated that most of the time the parents don't even know that their children are involved in a gang. MOVED BY HEWISON, SECONDED BY NORKIN AND CARRIED BY A UNANIMOUS VOTE TO ACCEPT AND FILE THE ANTI-GANG TAKS FORCE REPORT. 24. Presentation: Lake Patrol Update (LEPD) Information/Communications Manager Dennis stated that Sergeant Yates would present to the Commission a briefing by the LEPD about Page 4 - Public Safety Advisory Commission - April 11, 2007 the Lake Patrol and to give status of the current staffing and operating duties. Sergeant Yates gave a brief history of events that took place with the lake to include the first Lake Elsinore Well, the year that the lake went dry, and the training and proposed equipment for 2007. Commissioner Sund asked if she could do a ride-a-Iong. Sergeant Yates stated "yes". Commissioner Norkin asked how many boats are usually on the lake and if a license is needed to drive a boat. Sergeant Yates indicated that it depends on the conditions of the day to determine how many boats they will have on the lake, and that a person does not need a license to drive a boat. Commissioner Norkin asked if boaters are allowed to drink while driving a boat and if the three drownings that happened at the lake were alcohol related. Sergeant Yates stated that you may drink while in the boat but not when you are standing in the water. He indicated that he did not know if the drownings had to do with alcohol, but did know that all three were non swimmers. Commissioner Sund stated that until the City can get a ramp coordinator, would it be possible to spray paint some lines or posting a sign that would explain the procedures for entering the lake. Sergeant Yates stated that it would be an excellent idea and would discuss with Pat Kilroy, the Director of the Lake Department. Commissioner Bhutta asked Sergeant Yates on how the lake patrol keeps track of the warnings issued to the boaters. Sergeant Yates stated that everything gets documented in a log. Page 5 - Public Safety Advisory Commission - April 11, 2007 25. Status Report for Shoreline Zone Identification signage and channeling of visitors to controlled access points. Chairman Hewison gave a brief summary of the progress to date. He indicated that there are some County issues with Perret Park. Other than that he stated, everything is moving along very well. MOVED BY KNIGHT, SECONDED BY NORKIN AND CARRIED BY A UNANIMOUS VOTE TO RECEIVE AND FILE THE SHORELINE ZONE IDENTIFICATION SIGNAGE AND CHANNELING OF VISITORS TO CONTROLLED ACCESS POINTS. 24. Public Outreach Schedule: PSAC Recommended Activities Information/Communications Manager Dennis stated that there are several outreach and education projects that have been recommended by PSAC and are scheduled for production and implementation. He presented to the Commission a handout of a timeline schedule which lists the items that he would be involved with. He stated that he would like to get a PSAC Coordinator to assist with the administrative tasks. Commissioner Sund asked Information/Communications Manager if he had someone in mind to take over as coordinator. Information/Communications Manager Dennis suggested Code Enforcement Supervisor Tony Romero. Commissioner Sund stated that she has worked with Tony Romero in the past and feels that he would be a great asset to the Commission. MOVED BY KNIGHT, SECONDED BY BHUTTA AND CARRIED BY A UNANIMOUS VOTE TO RECEIVE AND FILE PUBLIC OUTREACH SCHEDULE. SUBCOMMITTEE REPORTS Chairman Hewison stated that there are three topics that he would like to discuss. He stated that there is a subcommittee for the Lakeshore Overlay which has not met yet. Page 6 - Public Safety Advisory Commission - April 11, 2007 Information/Communications Manager Dennis stated that the Planning Department will be taking the lead on scheduling the next meeting. Chairman Hewison stated that a second subcommittee to continue to working with staff on the graffiti. Chairman Hewison comprised a list of topics that he would like the PSAC to vision and get direction. They are: . Sex Offenders in the City of Lake Elsinore . The sale of Alcohol to minors . The painting of fire hydrants . Citizen action patrol . Disaster preparation . Budget preparation . Proactive on Dill campaign . Public Safety Profile . Barking dogs . Boat launch rehab . Running red lights CITY STAFF COMMENTS Information/Communications Manager Dennis commented on the following: 1) Spoke of the Storm opening day of April 12, 2007 2) Budget Study Session on April 19 at 5:00 PM 3) Civic Center Study Session April 26 at 5:00 PM 4) General Fund Budget on May 17 at 5:00 PM 5) Introduced Dana Porche COMMISSIONER COMMENTS Commissioner Norkin commented on the following: Page 7 - Public Safety Advisory Commission - April 11, 2007 1) Thanked the presenters for the presentations. Commissioner Bhutta commented on the following: 1) Thanked Lieutenant F ontneau, Sergeant Yates, Deputies Menchaca and Estrada for their presentations. Commissioner Sund commented on the following: 1) She spoke of the emergency awareness program that she attended and highly recommended it to other Commissioners. 2) Spoke of reapplying for the position ofPSAC. 3) She spoke of being invited to Samantha's Pride program in May. 4) She spoke of the ride-a-Iong with the Public Works Department. Vice-Chairman Knight commented on the following: 1) No Comments Chairman Hewison commented on the following: 1) Spoke of Section 8.18 Nuisance Abatement and how PSAC could assist. 2) Spoke of the annual report from WE TIP from 05/06. 3) Spoke of the request for the Franklin and Main stop sign. ADJOURNMENT THE PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISORY COMMISSION MEETING WAS ADJOURNED AT 7:40 P.M. ~~;~ RON HEWISON, CHAIRMAN PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISORY COMMISSION Page 8 - Public Safety Advisory Commission - April 11, 2007 Respectfully submitted, J~{LrA (d. yb{C~' DANA PORCHE', OFFICE SPECIALIST Attest: ~. .lJJolol iff ~ MICHELLE SOTO, ACTING CITY CLERK OF THE BOARD MINUTES PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISORY COMMISSION MEETING CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE 183 NORTH MAIN STREET LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA WEDNESDAY, MAY 9, 2007 **************************************************************** CALL TO ORDER Chairman Hewison called the Public Safety Advisory Commission Meeting to order at 6:01 p.m. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Commissioner Norkin. ROLL CALL PRESENT: COMMISSIONERS: KNIGHT, NORKIN, BHUTTA, SUND, HEWISON ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE Also present were: Information/Communications Manager Dennis, Sergeant Yates, Public Works Manager Payne, Code Enforcement Supervisor Romero and Office Specialist Porche. PUBLIC COMMENTS None CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS MOVED BY NORKIN, SECONDED BY KNIGHT AND CARRIED BY A UNANIMOUS VOTE TO APPROVE THE BALANCE OF THE CONSENT CALENDAR AS PRESENTED. Page 2 - Public Safety Advisory Commission - May 9, 2007 1. The following Minutes were approved: a. Wednesday, April 11, 2007, Regular Meeting BUSINESS ITEMS 21. Presentation: Emergency Preparedness/Citizens Corps. Information/Communications Manager Dennis introduced Public Works Manager Payne. Public Works Manager Payne requested a subcommittee to work with staff to outline a framework to form a Citizens Corps. He introduced Cynthia Quigley with Riverside County Fire Department who would discuss the program in further detail. Cynthia Quigley reviewed the benefits of the Citizens Corps and how it would work with the community. She stated that the program was developed from the aftermath of September 11 th, as well as Hurricane Katrina. She stated that the main goal was to make people become more independent and to take their own responsibility to be prepared in an unlikely event. Ms. Quigley stated that this year, every employee of Lake Elsinore was issued an emergency kit. She noted City has taken a huge step to show that they were promoting individual preparedness. She stated that the Citizens Corps could be anyone such elected official or school representative. She covered their responsibilities such as educate, train and volunteer. She noted that it is a growing program that would benefit the community and build community pride. She requested that the Commission recommend to the City Council that the City adopt the National Citizens Corps. Commissioner Bhutta inquired on what the cost would be per year for training. Ms. Quigley stated that the costs can vary. She indicated that if necessary, the City could apply for grants. Page 3 - Public Safety Advisory Commission - May 9, 2007 Commissioner Norkin asked if any other cities in the area have the Citizens Corps and if so, has it worked. Ms. Quigley indicated that in 2002 a tornado touched down In Temecula and the Citizens Corps was used at that time. Commissioner Norkin inquired how the law enforcement knows that the Citizens Corp are there to help and are not just "lookie-Ioo's". Ms. Quigley stated that the Citizens Corp are issued hard hats, shirts and vests. She stated that they would be assigned to a specific area should an incident occur. Commissioner Norkin asked if the training is continuous. Ms. Quigley confirmed. Commissioner Norkin inquired what type of emergency communication equipment they use. Ms. Quigley stated that they would use a hand-operated radio. Commissioner Knight inquired how it could be prevented from the Citizen's Corps to not be lookie-Ioo's. Ms. Quigley stated that they are trained not to do so. Commissioner Bhutta asked what type of training is offered. Ms. Quigley stated that they would receive some medical training (CPR) and simulated training. Commissioner Sund indicated that it is an excellent idea and indicated that the course would help. Chairman Hewison suggested that a packet be put together to help give clarification. He stated that he likes the fact the School District is getting involved. Commissioner Sund inquired when the next certification class is. Page 4 - Public Safety Advisory Commission - May 9, 2007 Ms. Quigley stated that there would be a class held in May, in the City of Murrieta, and also on July 13th-15th in La Cresta area. She noted that all are funded by grants. MOVED BY HEWISON, SECONDED BY BHUTTA AND CARRIED BY A UNANIMOUS VOTE TO APPOINT A SUBCOMMITTEE TO WORK WITH STAFF TO OUTLINE A PROPOSED "CITIZENS CORPS" FRAMEWORK FOR FURTHER CONSIDERATION BY PSAC IN JUNE, 2007. 22. Citizen Request: Discuss Off-Highway Motor Vehicles (OHMV) Impacts. Information/Communications Manager Dennis stated that this item is brought to the attention of the Commission due to the increase of popularity with off-highway motorized vehicles and the impact of illegal off-roading. He introduced C. J. Stewart who would discuss with the Commission ways to assist the City by educating both the community and off-road enthusiasts about City laws and safety requirements and responsibilities. C. J. Stewart requested the Commission's assistance to request an AdHoc committee to address health and safety issues and to support a billboard program. Chairman Hewison requested clarification on how the Commission could help. Ms. Stewart suggested developing a billboard that would be posted in areas that are popular for off-road users that would show where they can ride and have an 800 number that they could call for further information. Commissioner Bhutta agreed that safety is an issue. He inquired what else could be used besides a billboard. Ms. Stewart suggested that the City could put together a program for off-road users to attend. Page 5 - Public Safety Advisory Commission - May 9, 2007 Commissioner Bhutta asked if other cities use the program. Ms. Stewart stated that the City of Lake Elsinore could be used as a template. Commissioner Sund concurred that the City should become involved. Commissioner Norkin asked Sergeant Yates if he feels that the program would be warranted. Sergeant Yates indicated that off-road users can sometimes be a problem, however he could not comment on if the program IS warranted and would need to have it referred to the Chief of Police. Chairman Hewison indicated that at this time the City does not have off-road funding or any grant funding. He suggested the following: . Get more information before pursuing any further . Identify the difficult areas in town . Identify the current Ordinance that addresses citations issued . Research available funding, including grants Commissioner Sund concurred with getting more information before pursuing any further. Commissioner Norkin made a Motion to have a presentation from the Sheriff's department before the Commission can make a decision. MOVED BY NORKIN, SECONDED BY SUND AND CARRIED BY A UNANIMOUS VOTE TO HAVE A ROAD PRESENTATION BY THE SHERRIF'S DEPARTMENT AT THE JUNE 2007 PSAC MEETING. 23. Fireworks Public Outreach Plan. Information/Communication Manager Dennis stated that staff is working with the Fire Department to develop a billboard that would include a new media campaign to publicize the City's "get tough" stance on illegal fireworks. He stated that the billboard should be put up in June. Page 6 - Public Safety Advisory Commission - May 9, 2007 Chairman Hewison inquired if each resident in the City would receive information on the new fireworks information. Information/Communication Manager Dennis indicated that each homeowner/resident and business residence would receive an oversize postcard that would give web site information on the new City's Ordinance. MOVED BY NORKIN, SECONDED BY KNIGHT AND CARRIED BY A UNANIMOUS VOTE TO RECEIVE AND FILE THE FIREWORKS PUBLIC OUTREACH PLAN. 24. Graffiti Outreach Proposal and Scope of Work. Information/Communication Manager Dennis stated that it would be necessary for staff to contract outside services to administer the outreach portion of the graffiti program. He stated that the goal is to provide notification for businesses to comply with the new display, signage and paint purchase requirement. Chairman Hewison inquired on what the timeline is. Information/Communication Manager Dennis stated that staff has until the end of the year. Chairman Hewison suggested getting with the School District and suggesting assemblies for the students. Information/Communication Manager Dennis also indicated that the hot line would need to be put in place as soon as possible and would be a phase program. Commissioner Sund stated that she attended the Parents Summit in March and met with the Lakeland Village Middle School Principal. She spoke with her about conducting an assembly to discuss gang activity. MOVED BY BHUTTA, SECONDED BY KNIGHT AND CARRIED BY A UNANIMOUS VOTE TO RECEIVE AND FILE PUBLIC GRAFFITI OUTREACH PROPOSAL AND SCOPE OF WORK. Page 7 - Public Safety Advisory Commission - May 9, 2007 SUBCOMMITTEE REPORTS None CITY STAFF COMMENTS Information/Communications Manager Dennis commented on the following: 1) Spoke of the subcommittee to discuss the Lakeshore Overlay District and has scheduled a meeting for May 23, 2007. 2) Spoke of the City Beach dedication which is scheduled for May 31, at 10:00 AM. 3) He noted the Budget Study Session has been rescheduled to May 29, 2007 at 5:00 PM at the Cultural Center. COMMISSIONER COMMENTS Commissioner Norkin commented on the following: 1) Spoke of learning about the meeting that has been scheduled for May 29, 2007 regarding Lakeshore Overlay, and his disappointment that no one checked to see if the date and time would be convenient. He indicated that he would not be able to attend the May 29th meeting. Commissioner Bhutta commented on the following: 1) Spoke of the need of a stop light at Franklin and Main. 2) Spoke of the new parking laws and that they are working well. Commissioner Sund commented on the following: 1) She stated that there have been several break-ins in her neighborhood of the residences mailboxes and how the mailboxes had not been replaced in a timely manner. Page 8 - Public Safety Advisory Commission - May 9, 2007 Vice-Chairman Knight commented on the following: 1) He spoke of the off-road activity located at the end of Mountain Street. Chairman Hewison commented on the following: 1) Spoke of the Minutes from the last PSAC Meeting where it discusses the 11 items that he felt should be discussed and placed on the July Agenda. 2) Spoke of the last City Council Meeting, where there was a recommendation that a member of the PSAC participate on the Lakeshore Safety Team. 3) Spoke of the June meeting and that there would be an update from the Lake Operations Manager Pat Kilroy 4) Would like to see the neighborhood watch placed on the Agenda for August. 5) Discussed the invitations for a training exercise to work with a planned burning home on May 14th. 6) Spoke of the National Food Drive sponsored by the Post Office for Saturday, May 12,2007. ADJOURNMENT THE PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISORY OMMISSION MEETING WAS ADJOURNED AT 7:20 P.M. RON HEWISON, CHAIRMAN PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISORY COMMISSION Respectfully submitted, ~( ()j/vO ('0. p ((1,ryC (C' DANA PORCHE', OFFICE SPECIALIST Page 9 - Public Safety Advisory Commission - May 9, 2007 Attes~.: I .. ~cUtSrllo MICHELLE SOTO, ACTING CITY CLERK OF THE BOARD MINUTES PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISORY COMMISSION MEETING CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE 183 NORTH MAIN STREET LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA WEDNESDAY, JUNE 13, 2007 **************************************************************** CALL TO ORDER Information/Communications Manager Dennis called the Public Safety Advisory Commission Meeting to order at 6:00 p.m. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Administrative Services Director Pressey. ROLL CALL PRESENT: COMMISSIONERS: NORKIN, BHUTTA AND SUND ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE Also present were: Information/Communications Manager Dennis, City Attorney Leibold, Public Works Director Seumalo, Administrative Services Director Pressey, Sergeant Yates, and Office Specialist Porche. NOMINATIONS FOR CHAIRMAN 21. Information/Communications Manager Dennis stated Chairman Hewison and Vice Chairman Knight resigned on May 19, 2007 and May 21 st respectively. He stated that this item would be taken up first because the City Attorney has advised staff to have the Commission appoint an interim Chairman for the June and July meetings. Office Specialist Porche opened the floor for nominations for the position of interim Chairman. Page 2 - Public Safety Advisory Commission - June 13, 2007 Commissioner Sund nominated Commissioner Norkin. Commissioner Norkin nominated himself. Commissioner Bhutta nominated Commissioner Norkin. BY A UNANIMOUS VOTE COMMISSIONER NORKIN WAS VOTED AS THE INTERIM CHAIRMAN OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISORY COMMISSION FOR THE JUNE AND JULY MEETINGS. PUBLIC COMMENTS Mr. John Treese, 32420 Cape Cod Drive, Lake Elsinore spoke regarding the speeding along Palomar and Corydon and gave some recommendations that could help reduce the speeding in this area. Commissioner Sund suggested having a flashing light installed in the area. CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS MOVED BY SUND, SECONDED BY BHUTTA AND CARRIED BY A UNANIMOUS VOTE TO APPROVE THE BALANCE OF THE CONSENT CALENDAR AS PRESENTED. 1. The following Minutes were approved: a. Wednesday, May 9,2007, Regular Meeting BUSINESS ITEMS 22. Overview of Proposed FY 2007-08 Operating and Capital Improvement Budgets. Information/Communications Manager Dennis introduced Administrative Services Director Pressey. Administrative Services Director Pressey presented highlights of the proposed operative and capital budget for the Fiscal Year 2007-08 Page 3 - Public Safety Advisory Commission - June 13, 2007 which was presented to City Council and the RDA Board at the regular meeting of June 12,2007. Administrative Services Director Pressey stated that the largest increase was the Public Safety which is considered to be the City's top priority. He commented on the major revenue sources and indicated that the City is estimating 33.8 million in revenue for the FY 2007-2008. He also discussed the budgeted expenditures in personnel, Parks & Recreation and the Lake & Aquatic Department. Commissioner Bhutta asked what was included with the increase of $600,000 for the Police Department. Administrative Services Director Pressey indicated that it is a loaded rate which includes staff, benefits and vehicles. Commissioner Bhutta asked if this is an estimate or accurate rate. Administrative Services Director Pressey stated that this is an accurate rate. Commissioner Sund requested clarification on the capital improvements (C.I.P Budget) surveillance project. Information/Communications Manager Dennis stated that the purpose of including this in the staff report was to show that the recommendations of the PSAC were approved by City Council. Commissioner Sund asked if any money has been put aside for the new civic center. Administrative Services Director Pressey stated that $700,000 was allocated for the City's new civic center to get the project started. Chairman Norkin asked if the City has met or exceeded the mid-year budget. Page 4 - Public Safety Advisory Commission - June 13, 2007 Administrative Services Director Pressey stated that the City's projections were correct. MOVED BY SUND, SECONDED BY BHUTTA AND CARRIED BY A UNANIMOUS VOTE TO RECEIVE AND FILE THE PROPOSED FY 2007-08 OPERATING AND CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT BUDGETS. 23. Tobacco Retail Licensing Ordinance No. 838 (County of Riverside): Encourage Adoption of Identical Ordinance. Chairman Norkin requested a brief overview of this item. City Attorney Leibold stated that under the state law it is illegal to sell tobacco to anyone under the age of 18. She stated that the law also requires anyone who sells tobacco to check ID of those who look under the age of27. City Attorney Leibold stated that what is being proposed is to adopt an ordinance that would require merchants have an annual license to sell tobacco. She indicated that currently ten cities in the county have adopted identical ordinances at the County's request. It was suggested by the Commission to have this item further reviewed by the Counsel and brought back at the next PSAC meeting when a full Commission can review Legal Counsel's recommended Ordinance language MOVED BY BHUTTA, SECONDED BY SUND AND CARRIED BY A UNANIMOUS VOTE TO TABLE THE TOBACCO RETAIL LICENSING ORDINANCE NO. 838 TO A LATER DATE. 24. Citizen Corps Subcommittee Alternate. Information/Communications Manager Dennis stated that this item is to designate an alternate to fill a vacancy on the Citizen Corps subcommittee. Commissioner Sund recommended having this item brought back to the Commission at a later date. Page 5 - Public Safety Advisory Commission - June 13,2007 MOVED BY SUND, SECOND BY BHUTTA, AND CARRIED BY A UNANIMOUS VOTE TO TABLE THE CITIZEN CORPS SUBCOMMITTEE ALTERNATE TO A LATER DATE. SUBCOMMITTEE REPORTS Chairman Norkin stated that he has been meeting with two Planning Commissioners and Commissioner Bhutta to discuss the Lakeshore Overlay District. Topics included in the discussion are the concerns with docks and fences around the lake. He indicated that the Commission will be taking a tour of the lake within the next month so that everyone can see the challenges that are faced ahead. CITY STAFF COMMENTS Information/Communications Manager Dennis commented on the following: 1) 2) 3) Spoke of the briefing on the Civic Center Design Competition to be held on Saturday June 16th at the Cultural Center. Spoke of the ribbon-cutting ceremony at the Main Street City Park which will be held at 10:00 AM on June 23rd. Spoke of the two City parks dedications on June 30th. One will be at Lincoln Park at 10:00 AM and one at 3:00 PM at Alberhill Community Park. Fireworks mailers have gone out to the City's residents to advise them of the "No Fireworks policy" and the annual fireworks show over Lake Elsinore on July 4th at 9:00 PM. He commented on the issue of speeding along Grand A venue to Corydon. He indicated that a traffic study is currently being conducted by City staff to help alleviate the problems in that area. 4) 5) City Attorney Leibold commented on the following: 1) Spoke of the application period for the applicants for the two available four-year positions of the Public Safety Advisory Commission. She indicated that the interview process will begin tomorrow. However since two members resigned from the Commission, advertising for the two two-year vacant positions will conclude on June 22nd. It is Page 6 - Public Safety Advisory Commission - June 13, 2007 expected that the subcommittee will make its recommendations at the June 26th City Council meeting. COMMISSIONER COMMENTS Chairman Norkin commented on the following: 1) He spoke of appreciation towards Ray Knight and Ron Hewison and how the two of them were a huge asset to the Commission and both will be greatly missed. 2) Commented on the recent drowning at the lake and how well the Sheriff s Department handled the situation. 3) Suggested honoring the family who recently lost one of their family members while trying to save the life of a child in the lake. 4) Thanked everyone for their nominations. Commissioner Bhutta commented on the following: I) He asked Information/Communications Manager Dennis on how often the City uploads the minutes on line. Information/Communications Manager Dennis stated that the city is backlogged on the minutes due to the City Clerk's office being short- staffed. 2) He asked Information/Communications Manager Dennis if staff could arrange to have the agenda packages available sooner in order to allow more time for reviewing. Information/Communications Manager Dennis apologized for the delay on the Commission receiving their packages and indicated that packets are normally distributed the Thursday or Friday preceding the PSAC meeting. Commissioner Sund commented on the following: 1) She spoke of her ride along on the lake and how it was very helpful. 2) She spoke of her trying to get a ride along with the Sheriffs Department. Page 7 - Public Safety Advisory Commission - June 13, 2007 ADJOURNMENT j The Public Safety Advisory Commission meeting was adjo MIKE NORKIN CHAIRMAN ATTEST: [AN~J:N;~ CLERK OF THE BOARD MINUTES PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISORY COMMISSION STUDY SESSION CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE 183 NORTH MAIN STREET LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA WEDNESDAY, JULY 25, 2007 **************************************************************** CALL TO ORDER Chairman Norkin called the Public Safety Advisory Commission Study Session to order at 4:26 p.m. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Commissioner Lyons. ROLL CALL PRESENT: COMMISSIONERS: BHUTTA, DAILEY, L YONS, STEWART, NORKIN ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE Also present were: Information/Communications Manager Dennis, Legal Counsel Leibold and Interim Clerk of the Board Soto. PUBLIC COMMENTS None ORIENTATION FOR COMMISSIONERS Information/Communications Manager Dennis gave an overview of what was going to be discussed during the Study Session. He commented on Preparation for Office. He noted that the required Commissioners had already taken their Oath of Office. He further noted that the Commission Page 2 - PSAC Study Session- July 25, 2007 had already been scheduled for their Live Scan appointments. He noted the timeliness for the distribution of the monthly PSAC agenda packets. He commented on FPPC forms and noted that Legal Counsel Leibold would be discussing that item in further detail. He commented on the E- mail & Internet usage policy and noted that it needed to be reviewed, signed and turned into staff. Information/Communications Manager Dennis addressed the topic of City Government Overview. He noted background information on the City and the PSAC. He noted departments within the City and what they are responsible for. Legal Counsel Leibold addressed the topic of Public Officials and the Law. She gave background on the Open Meeting Law known as the Brown Act. She sited how the Brown Act specifically related to the Commission. Legal Counsel Leibold commented on how the Commissioners should conduct themselves as public officials. She noted that Council Policy No. 200-5A related specifically to Commissions. Legal Counsel Leibold gave some background on the Political Reform Act. She noted who needed to file and what they needed to disclose. She gave examples to the Commission of circumstances where items such as gifts, money or dinner would need to be disclosed. Legal Counsel Leibold noted that the Meeting Rules of Order are addressed in the City Council Policy Manual. She noted that the City currently followed "The Standard Code of Parliamentary Procedure". She instructed the Commission on how to make a motion. She noted that a motion is not required for a "receive and file" recommendation. Chairman Norkin thanked Legal Counsel Leibold for her presentation and noted its value to the Commission. ADJOURNMENT The Public Safety Advisory Commission Study Session was adjourned at 6:01 p.m. Page 3 - PSAC Study Session- July 25, 2007 ATTEST: [ LL~ VIVIAN M. MUNSON CLERK OF THE BOARD - MINUTES PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISORY COMMISSION MEETING CITY OF lAKE ELSINORE 183 NORTH MAIN STREET lAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 8, 2007 ******************************************************************************************************** CAll TO ORDER Chairman Norkin called the Public Safety Advisory Commission Meeting to order at 6:04 p.m. PLEDGE OF AllEGIANCE The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Chairman Norkin. ROll CAll PRESENT: CHAIRMAN NORKIN VICE-CHAIR BHUTTA COMMISSIONER DAILEY COMMISSIONER LYONS COMMISSIONER STEWART ABSENT: NONE Also present were: Information/Communications Manager Dennis, Assistant Legal Counsel Mann, Lake & Aquatic Resources Director Kilroy, Sergeant Yates, Traffic Engineer Basubas and Office Specialist Porche. PUBLIC COMMENTS Ron Hewison of lake Elsinore, commented on recreational vehicles that were illegally parked in streets on street sweeping days. He spoke of notifying Vector control about the stagnant water that is left in swimming pools after a house has foreclosed. He also spoke of the new graffiti ordinance that was recently established and how it needs to be made clear to the residents of Lake Elsinore that graffiti can be removed at no charge by completing a waiver form. Bob Calahnan of lake Elsinore, spoke of the 19 newspaper stands that are blocking pedestrian traffic and the illegally parked cars outside of the Post Office. 1 CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS IT WAS MOVED BY VICE-CHAIR BHUTTA, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER STEWART AND CARRIED BY A UNANIMOUS VOTE TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR AS PRESENTED. 1. The following minutes were approved: a. Wednesday, July 11,2007 regular meeting. BUSINESS ITEMS 21. Citizen Corps Subcommittee Appointment Chairman Norkin indicated the item was for the purpose of appointing a Commissioner to the Citizen Corps Subcommittee. He stated since he is on the Lakeshore Overlay subcommittee, he would like someone to replace him on the Citizen Corps, therefore, making it necessary to appoint two Commissioners. Commissioners Daily and Stewart were appointed and Commissioner Lyons was appointed as the alternate. IT WAS MOVED BY COMMISSIONER DAilEY, SECONDED BY VICE-CHAIR BHUTT A AND CARRIED BY A UNANIMOUS VOTE TO APPOINT COMMISSIONERS DAilEY AND STEWART TO THE CITIZEN CORPS SUBCOMMITTEE AND COMMISSIONER l YONS AS THE ALTERNATE. 22. Establishinq Maximum Speed Limit and Special Event Permit Requirements for Lake Elsinore's Hiqh Speed Zone Lake & Aquatic Resources Director Kilroy stated the Freedom Racing Team recently approached the City about using the lake's High Speed Zone (HSZ). He indicated this type of vehicle can reach speeds up to 150 mph. He stated that currently the center of the lake has no speed limit. He indicated that the purpose of the discussion was to establish a maximum speed limit in the HSZ and to discuss the requirement of a Lake Special Event Permit for boats desiring to exceed the specified maximum speed limit. He suggested establishing a maximum of 80 mph without having a Special Event Permit. He noted speeds of over 80 mph that would require a permit. He also suggested limiting the speed on holidays and weekends when the lake is mostly used by amateur boaters. Pete Dawson supports allowing hydroplane thunder boats at the lake. He indicated that if the City would allow the Freedom Racing Team to use the lake, it would benefit Lake Elsinore and would allow more high speed boats to use the lake. Commissioner Stewart expressed concern for the safety of the citizens. He also inquired about the lake bottom and if high speeds would have any effect on it. 2 Lake & Aquatic Resources Director Kilroy stated that traveling at high speeds would not have any effect on the bottom of the lake. Commissioner Lyons stated he believed the greatest percentages of high speed boaters are in the water very early in the morning before the large crowds appear. Chairman Norkin inquired about the width of the lake. Lake & Aquatic Resources Director Kilroy responded that the lake is about three miles long and two miles wide. Chairman Norkin inquired about the amount of noise these boats generate. Lake & Aquatic Resources Director Kilroy stated that the boaters are subject to the State decibel limits. Commissioner Dailey inquired to the amount of boaters that exceed the 80 mph. Lake & Aquatic Resources Director Kilroy responded the vast majority of boats travel under 80 mph. Commissioner Dailey inquired as to complexity of the permitting process. Lake & Aquatic Resources Director Kilroy responded there will be no permit required for one boat, however, the lake will be closed for a regatta event. Staff is recommending that high speed boats give notice to every boat launch facility, and condition the applicant to produce flyers, control the area he will be running and notify the Sheriff's Office. Commissioner Dailey inquired about the company that approached the City and if they are familiar with the lake. Lake & Aquatic Resources Director Kilroy responded the company is familiar with the lake and requested to use the lake because of its fresh water. Commissioner Stewart indicated that currently there is a maximum speed limit on the lake. He stated by establishing a high speed limit, it would be necessary to adjust the ordinance. He asked Sergeant Yates if the Police Department has the manpower to regulate the high speed boaters. Sergeant Yates responded they definitely had manpower. Vice-Chair Bhutta stated he did not have enough information and would like to hear from the Freedom Racing Team and address the dangers involved. Chairman Norkin suggested having a draft Ordinance prepared for discussion. 3 IT WAS MOVED BY CHAIRMAN NORKIN, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER DAILEY AND CARRIED BY A UNANIMOUS VOTE TO DIRECT STAFF TO DRAFT AN ORDINANCE ESTABLISHING A HIGH SPEED ZONE MAXIMUM SPEED LIMIT OF 80 MPH AND SPECIAL EVENT PERMIT REQUIREMENTS IN EXCESS OF 80 MPH FOR CITY COUNCIL CONSIDERATION 23. Discuss PSAC Role in Traffic Safety and Potential Expansion of Duties Joyce Rivera stated she lived within the community of Canyon Hills. She noted that on July 9th on the corner of Cedar Hill and Poppy, there was a collision between a resident and a vehicle. She stated that on that particular hill, drivers exceed the speed limit. She requested that a stop sign be placed in the area. Chairman Norkin noted that the item was to discuss the potential expansion of duties in having the PSAC address traffic safety concerns. Information/Communications Manager Dennis indicated the agenda topic was in relation to how the PSAC can address traffic safety issues and concerns that are brought to the attention of PSAC by residents. Assistant Legal Counsel Mann inquired on the timeline for the study. Traffic Engineer Basubas responded that due to the seriousness of the situation, he would speculate that the study would be complete within two weeks. Information/Communications Manager Dennis stated the intent of the item was for identifying traffic safety duties which were not presently within PSAC's scope. Commissioner Norkin asked what the scope of duties would include for PSAC. Assistant Legal Counsel Mann replied that part of the scope of duties would consist of listening to citizens' concerns regarding traffic related issues in the City and to report their concerns to City staff. Information/Communications Manager Dennis indicated that the purpose of PSAC is to discuss and identify traffic safety issues within the City and to formalize communications. IT WAS MOVED BY COMMISSIONER LYONS, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER STEWART AND CARRIED BY A UNANIMOUS VOTE TO DIRECT THE ASSISTANT LEGAL COUNSEL TO DRAFT AN ORDINANCE TO SUBMIT TO CITY COUNCIL ADDRESSING CHANGES TO THE PSAC'S ROLE AND DUTIES TO INCLUDE TRAFFIC SAFETY. 4 24. Implementation of Shoreline Safety Plan - Past, Present & Future Lake & Aquatic Resources Director Kilroy noted that back in 2005, under the direction of the City Council, the City hired an aquatic safety expert. He reviewed the near term goals of the Phase I Shoreline Safety Plan. They are as follows: establish shore line zones; improve shoreline signage; modify safety information, commented the various phases and goals for the Shoreline Safety Plan. Lake & Aquatic Resources Director Kilroy noted a phased approach would consist of phasing improvements over the next seven years, with immediate construction of certain elements to improve safety, parking and beach amenities in 2007. He indicated that Phase 2 and 3 implementation of the Shoreline Safety plan consisted of channeling visitors to controlled access points to communicate important safety information posted at specific locations. He indicated some of these safety plans included; 1) prohibition of swimming; 2) publication of warning signs to read: "No swimming/no diving"; "Please watch your children"; "This lake has hidden underwater hazards", and 'Water and Alcohol DO NOT mix"; 3) creating four distinct zones as to reduce conflicts and increase safety between boaters, fishermen and waders; 4) Storm water management; 5) Safety signage; 6) Establishing beach poles to identify lake access points; 7) establishing a drowning prevention program; and 8) establishing an Aquatic Risk Management Program for staff. He also indicated as part of Phase 3 was to review, revise and update the Lake Elsinore Municipal Code related to a large group of policies for the City's beaches. Vice-Chair Bhutta inquired if the lake had any signs in Spanish. Lake & Aquatic Resources Director Kilroy responded the lake did not have any signs in Spanish. He stated the City uses international symbols on its safety signs. Lake & Aquatic Resources Director Kilroy commented on getting three emergency call boxes for the beach area. Sergeant Yates indicated the Police Department was looking further into establishing emergency call boxes on the beach area. Lake & Aquatic Resources Director Kilroy expressed his concerns with the types of calls and vandalism that may occur. Chairman Norkin inquired on the percentage of 911 calls. He expressed his desire to have these call boxes available but to have the calls go directly to City staff for immediate response. Sergeant Yates responded most of the calls are legitimate. He noted that he was unsure if they would all fall under the 911 category. However, he feels that call boxes by the lake would create prank calls. 5 Commissioner Lyons expressed his concerns with vandalism and the misuse of the call boxes. Vice-Chair Bhutta inquired on the cost of the call boxes. Lake & Aquatic Resources Director Kilroy responded each box was about $5,000 a piece. He also indicated he was ready to order three of them with the approval of PSAC. Vice-Chair Bhutta stated he thought the purchase of call boxes was a waste of money when everyone carries cell phones. He stated he agreed with Commissioner Lyons concerns with vandal isms and the problems kids would create by misusing the phones. Lake & Aquatic Resources Director Kilroy recommended at least purchasing three call boxes to start with and felt it was also the consensus of the Commission. Lake & Aquatic Resources Director Kilroy also indicated he wanted to assess storms water channels get GPS locations on every storm water channel, create a ranking system as how the City would consider a degree of hazard to the public so that the City can look at more of the serious ones first. Vice-Chair Bhutta inquired if Director Kilroy needed more money and staff to accomplish all of the items on his task list. Lake & Aquatic Resources Director Kilroy stated with additional funds and staff he could accomplish these tasks much sooner. He also noted he needed to update his task and timeline list. Commissioner Stewart inquired if there has ever been a geological study done over the years of the lake bed that could be on file. Lake & Aquatic Resources Director Kilroy responded there is a bathymetric chart for lakes, however, it is not a very tight mapping and not be worthwhile. He indicated he would need to obtain Council's approval for funding this study. He stated a bathometric chart could be useful to the City as well as GPSing all of the locations of the storm drains. Commissioner Dailey inquired if the Commission could get some direction on where to obtain a grant to assist with all of these endeavors. Lake & Aquatic Resources Director Kilroy responded he would check with the Department of Boating and Waterways. Commissioner Lyons inquired if the signs around the lake could be made larger so that the boaters could read them. 6 Chairman Norkin thought that making the signs larger was a great idea and to possibly utilize colored signs which would be easier to see from the lake. Lake & Aquatic Resources Director Kilroy responded colored signs could be done; however, additional funds would be needed. Commissioner Lyons indicated about three or four months ago, there were some hazardous areas within the five mile an hour zone with poles sticking out of the water. He inquired why these items can't be pulled out instead of just hazard buoys placed in that location. Lake & Aquatic Resources Director Kilroy responded there are a number of hazards around the lake as the lake rises. It is difficult when the hazard is on the Riverside County Flood Control District and not on City property. He also stated he would need direction of removing every obstacle in the lake or create a policy to remove all of these hazards. IT WAS MOVED BY A UNANIMOUS VOTE TO RECEIVE AND FILE REPORT. PUBLIC SAFETY SUBCOMMITTEE REPORTS Vice-Chair Bhutta commented on the Lakeshore Overlay Subcommittee. He indicated they had several key objectives they were working on which included dock standards, camping, fencing, pads & structures, dwelling, public access and the flood plain. CITY STAFF COMMENTS Information/Communications Manager Dennis commented on the following: 1) Noted upcoming City events. LEGAL COUNSEL COMMENTS Assistant Legal Counsel Mann commented on the following: 1) Responded to Mr. Calahnan's earlier comments regarding newsstands. He indicated that the City did not receive revenue from the use of public streets. He stated that public streets were the most public forum for free speech and there were no City regulations for newsstands. COMMISSIONER COMMENTS Vice-Chair Bhutta commented on the following: 1) Thanked the citizens for sharing their comments. 2) Requested that staff place on the next agenda an item addressing vicious dog registry. 7 3) Stated there was a lot of money out there and the City needed to look into obtaining grants. Commissioner Daily commented on the following: 1) Thanked the citizens for sharing their comments and concerns. 2) As growth occurs, the City needs to increase communications about traffic and safety. Commissioner Lyons commented on the following: 1) Thanked the LEMSAR members for attending their meeting. Commissioner Stewart commented on the following: 1) Encouraged citizens to come to the meetings. 2) Thanked Lake & Aquatic Resources Director Kilroy for his presentation. Chairman Norkin commented on the following: 1) Noted that it was important to educate and not just to regulate and to communicate PSAC's existence. ADJOURNMENT Chairman Norkin adjourned the Public Safety Advis p.m. n Meeting at 8:35 rT: L L_ VIVIAN M. MUNSON CLERK OF THE BOARD 8 MINUTES PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISORY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE 183 NORTH MAIN STREET LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 12, 2007 .......................................................................... CALL TO ORDER - 6:00 P.M. Chairman Norkin called the Public Safety Advisory Commission Study Session to order at 6:01 p.m. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Vice-Chair Bhutta. ROLL CALL PRESENT: CHAI RMAN NORKI N VICE-CHAIR BHUTTA COMMISSIONER LYONS COMMISSIONER STEWART ABSENT: COMMISSIONER DAILEY (Arrived at 6:08 p.m.) Also present were: Information/Communications Manager Dennis, Assistant City Attorney David Mann, Lake and Aquatic Resources Director Kilroy, Sergeant Yates, Sherriff's Deputy Young, Clerk of the Board Munson and Deputy City Clerk Soto. PUBLIC COMMENTS Melanie Mosbacher, Lake Elsinore, spoke in opposition of removing the fence at the lake. She indicated the fence does designate her property. Margie Woelich, Lake Elsinore, indicated she would like to see the fence stay up for protection. She also indicated they have had problems with vandalism and the fence will also protect their pets. Mary Frazier, Lake Elsinore, stated she felt the fence was important to keep. She reported on the number of problems her family has had with vandalism and requested to have the fence stay to protect her family and pets. 1 Terry Prijztel, lake Elsinore, expressed her concern with placing speed limits on the lake. She indicated the high speed zone is needed for various reasons and is of vital importance. She also stated fence elevations may be ending at 1255 and stated she was expressing a need to see the fence elevations continue at the end of the person's property. She stated everybody has a right to protect their property and she believes 1255 will not cut it. lou Prijztel, lake Elsinore, also expressed his concern for pets, the amount of vandalism, problems related to the four wheel drivers, the need to secure the City's beaches, and the campgrounds along Grand Avenue. He also stated he would like to keep the high speed zone. Frances Henkel, lake Elsinore, expressed his concerns should the fence be removed, for example the liability he would have as a private property owner. He also would like to see the City keep the high speed zone on the lake. Peter Dawson, lake Elsinore, described the problems related to the lake when the water is down. He stated the history of the fence and any opposition was based on the hazard to property owners when the lake level was down. He stated the further the fence deters vehicles from driving around the lake. John Christiansen, lake Elsinore, expressed his concerns with the speed limit on Gunnerson Street. There are no sidewalks and the speed limit has been raised for 40 mph. He stated the City should change the speed limit back to 25 mph. He also indicated the road was a little deteriorated. Pat Blinn, lake Elsinore, expressed her concerns with people leaving trash on the beach and is a true aggravation. She stated she has taken the bad fencing down and left the poles. She stated people do not care about public property. She stated she would like to see the boundaries left as they are. Chairman Norkin stated currently there is a Lakeshore Overlay District Sub-Committee who together with the Planning Commission and the Public Safety Advisory Commission work on various City issues. Any decisions the sub-committee recommends will go back to their respective Commissions. There will be plenty of opportunities for the public to address their issues before these Commissions and the sub-committee. Information/Communications Manager Dennis indicated these meeting are always opened to the public. Many issues are discussed to include issues both on the City side and County side. CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS There were no items. 2 BUSINESS ITEMS 21. R.O.V.E. Update Riverside County Sheriff Sergeant Yates indicated that he would be happy to address the Commission's questions and concerns. He introduced Deputy Young who will assist in addressing concerns of the Commission. Commissioner Stewart inquired as to how many quad vehicles the Sherriff's Dept. had, how many square miles that these quads patrol and if he felt it was adequate coverage? Deputy Young replied the Department had four quads that cover not only the City but also the County in the Lake Elsinore Station. All of the open space from the Corona city limits, to the Murrieta city limits and from Perris to the Orange County lines have to be covered. He also indicated he felt that it was adequate cover for the areas. Chairman Norkin inquired as to how often ROVE out and about. Deputy Young replied usually out on a weekend basis. Every other weekend they are in the city between the old City dump ground and in the Canyon Hills area which are two main problems areas. Deputy Young responded to various questions and concerns the Commission had related to the laws and enforcement of the use of quads, motorcycles, mini- bikes and A TV's in the Lake Elsinore area. Chairman Norkin inquired if the Deputy felt an ordinance would assist in controlling these various problems. Deputy Young responded that it was just a matter of being in the right place and the right time. 22. Ordinance Addinq Traffic Safety to enumerated PSAC Duties and Responsibilities Assistant Legal Counsel presented the staff report. It was motioned by Vice-Chair Bhutta, and seconded by Commissioner Stewart to direct legal counsel to incorporate the Commission's revisions into the ordinance and submit a revised ordinance to the City Council for consideration. 3 The following vote resulted: AYES: CHAIRMAN NORKIN VICE-CHAIR BHUTTA COMMISSIONER DAILY COMMISSIONER LYONS COMMISSIONER STEWART NOES: NONE ABSTAIN: NONE ABSENT: NONE 23. Draft Amendment to L.E.M.C. Section 9.96.120 (C Reqardinq Boat Speed Limits for Lake Elsinore Establishinq Maximum Sped Limit and Special Event Permit Requirements for Lake Elsinore's Hiqh Speed Zone Peter Dawson, lake Elsinore, indicated he supported the amendment to the Municipal Code. Lake and Aquatic Resources Director Kilroy presented the staff report. Chairman Norkin commented that it was his idea to push this forward. Since then, he has spoken to many people who run their boats on the lake at high speeds. And although he supports 90% of what the ordinance says, he does not support it fully. He does not believe these people are doing anything wrong. He does not agree with requiring a permit to go fast on the lake. Vice-Chair Bhutta concurred with Chairman Norkin. It was motioned by Commissioner Lyons, and seconded by Commissioner Daily to direct staff to schedule a Study Session to discuss the Lake's High Speed Zone. The following vote resulted: AYES: CHAIRMAN NORKIN VICE-CHAIR BHUTTA COMMISSIONER DAILY COMMISSIONER LYONS COMMISSIONER STEWART NOES: NONE 4 ABSTAIN: NONE ABSENT: NONE 24. Safety Requlations for Newsstands in the Public Riqht-Of-Way Information/Communications Manager Dennis presented the staff report. Assistant Legal Counsel Mann indicated the City can imposed reasonable regulations on locations, size, materials, uniformity and consistency. The danger is trying to regulate content. He stated he would discourage this type of regulation. He also indicated having these stands there is a fundamental free speech right for these companies. Chairman Norkin agreed with the concerns of the individual that brought this to the Commissions attention. He would like to see those stands possibly move up against the Post Office building. Vice-Chair Bhutta and Commission Lyons concurred with Chairman Norkin. Frances Henkel, lake Elsinore, also expressed his concerns with the newsstands and their location. It was motioned by Commissioner Lyons, and seconded by Vice-Chair Bhutta to prepare safety regulations governing newsstands that are in a public right-of-way as well as incorporate some basic standards as to what they look like and how they are going to be attached. The following vote resulted: AYES: CHAIRMAN NORKIN VICE-CHAIR BHUTTA COMMISSIONER DAILY COMMISSIONER LYONS COMMISSIONER STEWART NOES: NONE ABSTAIN: NONE PUBLIC SAFETY SUBCOMMITTEE REPORTS None. 5 CITY STAFF COMMENTS Information/Communications Manager Dennis made the following announcements: 1 Introduced the Vivian Munson the new City Clerk to the Commission. He also indicated the City also had a new Director of Parks and Recreation Ray Gonzales. 2. The EDC Luncheon to be held at the Diamond on September 20th at 11 :30 a.m. John Mwsing, an economist will be speaking. Please contact the City Manager's Office to make a reservation. 3. The Lake Elsinore San Jacinto Water Shed Authority SHWA is preparing for a dedication event for Monday, October 1st out at Sea Port Boat Launch at 9:00 a.m. to dedicate the recycled water pipeline and nutrient removal system which helping deliver safe water to our lake and help us maintain our lake. The Lakeshore Overlay Sub-Committee meeting is on September 19th at 4:30 p.m. The next City Council meeting will be held on Tuesday, September 25th. PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISORY COMMISSIONERS' COMMENTS Chairman Norkin thanked those individuals that came out to speak. He stated the Commission will do their best to make sure everyone's interest are considered. ADJOURNMENT It was the consensus of the Commission to adjourn to a Regular Meeting on October 10, 2007, in the Cultural Center located at 183 North Main Street, Lake Elsinore, California, CA, 92530. Chairman Norkin adjourned the meeting at 7:15 p.m. .L~ V IAN M. MUNSON CLERK OF THE BOARD 6 MINUTES PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISORY COMMISSION STUDY SESSION CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE 183 NORTH MAIN STREET LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 26, 2007 ......................................................................... CALL TO ORDER - 6:03 P.M. Chairman Norkin called the Public Safety Advisory Commission Study Session to order at 6:02 p.m. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Chairman Norkin. ROLL CALL PRESENT: CHAIRMAN NORKIN VICE-CHAIR BHUTTA COMMISSIONER DAILEY COMMISSIONER LYONS COMMISSIONER STEWART ABSENT: NONE Also present were: Information/Communications Manager Dennis, Assistant City Attorney David Mann, Lake and Aquatic Resources Director Kilroy, Sergeant Mike Yates, Ed Basubas and Clerk of the Board Munson. PUBLIC COMMENTS There were no public comments. BUSINESS ITEMS 1) Discussion of Proposed Hiqh Sped Zone Maximum Speed Limit and Special Event Permit Recommendation Information/Communications Manager Dennis outlined the purpose of the Study Session. 1 Lake and Aquatic Resources Director Kilroy presented the staff report and provided a Power Point presentation. Skip Stroud of lake Elsinore, expressed his concern to the Commission regarding establishing a speed limit. He stated he is a speed boat owner and periodically takes his boat out in the early morning for testing where he can reach the speeds of over 100 mph with horse power of 980 hp. The other times he is out in the Lake with his boat is occasionally on the weekend and never drives his boat faster than 60 mph. He stated the reason he decided to purchase property in Lake Elsinore was because he enjoyed working on his boat and wanted to live near a lake. He indicated most of the time boat companies take new boats out in the lake to test them before handing them over to the new owner. They are on the lake for about ten minutes and then they are gone. He asked the Commission to reconsider establishing a speed limit on the lake. Lake and Aquatic Resources Director Kilroy read a letter into the record from a Hernando Rodriquez, General Manager of Cobra Performance Boats. The letter stated "Lake Elsinore is an integral part of our product testing. The open speed zone is why we test at Lake Elsinore. If a speed limit was imposed, it would force us to test elsewhere. The heaviest boat traffic on the lake is during the weekend. A Saturday/Sunday speed limit makes sense. Boat traffic is light on the weekdays. The open speed zone should remain in effect on Monday through Friday. The majority of West Coast Performance Boat Manufactures rely on Lake Elsinore for their product testing programs. It would be a shame for the City of Lake Elsinore to lose this business." The Commissioners had the following questions and concerns: Vice-Chair Bhutta 1) Inquired if individuals under the age of 18 were permitted to go into the high speed zone under present rules. Chairman Norkin 1) Inquired if a permit could be permitted for high speed zone testers 2) Inquired about the hours open for testing boats in the lake. 3) He suggested delineating the high speed zone by using buoys. Commissioner Stewart 1) Agreed with age concerns with regards to the individuals driving high speed boats in the lake. 2 Commissioner Dailey 1) Stated the City needs to evaluate and consider the time of day when considering a speed limit. 2) She stated she would like to see some high speed weekend access. 3) She stated that accidents are rare and we should not penalize everyone for one accident. 4) Suggested there be only a hydroplane exclusion. Commissioner Lyons 1) Stated he has been a user of the Lake for 12 years. He stated that late in the day there are not many boat in the high speed zone. It was motioned by Commissioner Dailey, and seconded by Vice-Chair Bhutta to draft an ordinance prohibiting operation of hydroplane vessels on Lake Elsinore, unless authorized pursuant to a special event permit. The following vote resulted: AYES: CHAIRMAN NORKIN VICE-CHAIR BHUTTA COMMISSIONER DAILY COMMISSIONER LYONS COMMISSIONER STEWART NOES: NONE ABSTAIN: NONE ABSENT: NONE ADJOURNMENT It was the consensus of the Commission to adjourn to a Regular Meeting on November 14, 2007, in the Cultural Center located at 183 North Main Street, Lake Elsinore, California, CA, 92530. Chairman Norkin adjourned the meeting at 8:00 p.m. MI E NORKIN, CHAIRMAN PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISORY COMMISSION 3 ATTEST: , l. L~ VI IAN M. MUNSON CLERK OF THE BOARD 4 MINUTES PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISORY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE 183 NORTH MAIN STREET LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 10, 2007 ............................................................................... CALL TO ORDER - 6:00 P.M. Chairman Norkin called the Public Safety Advisory Commission Study Session to order at 6:02 p.m. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Commissioner Lyons. ROLL CALL PRESENT: CHAIRMAN NORKIN VICE-CHAIR BHUTTA COMMISSIONER DAILEY COMMISSIONER LYONS COMMISSIONER STEWART ABSENT: NONE Also present were: Information/Communications Manager Dennis, Assistant City Attorney David Mann, Lake and Aquatic Resources Director Kilroy, Code Enforcement Officer Lopez, Traffic Engineer Basubas and Clerk of the Board Munson. PUBLIC COMMENTS Doug Staggs of Lake Elsinore, addressed the Commission on the traffic and safety concerns in the Canyon Hills Elementary School area, specifically on Cedarhill Lane and Sugarbush Lane. He indicated there were many problems by the back of the school gate, no crossing guards and no cross walks. He referred to a neighborhood petition effort in which he had already gathered 40 signatures. Luz Angel-Paez of Lake Elsinore, addressed the Commission on the speed of which cars travel on Cedarhill Lane and the traffic concerns in the area of Canyon Hill Elementary School. She suggested placing speed reflectors, more Police patrol, and possibly a cross walk at the back school gate. She also thanked Traffic Engineer Basubas for his efforts in working with the residents in the area to address some of the 1 traffic issues. She added that street lights in the vicinity are too dim, which could be hazardous. She suggested adding a new light at the curve, along with flashing caution lights and a "10 mph" sign. CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS 1. Minutes of the reqular meetinq of September 12, 2007 Recommendation: Approve the minutes of the regular meeting dated September 12,2007. It was motioned by Vice-Chair Bhutta, and seconded by Commissioner Dailey to approve the Consent Calendar item. The following vote resulted: AYES: CHAIRMAN NORKIN VICE-CHAIR BHUTTA COMMISSIONER DAILY COMMISSIONER LYONS COMMISSIONER STEWART NOES: NONE ABSTAIN: NONE ABSENT: NONE BUSINESS ITEMS 2. Discussion Reqardinq Barkinq Doqs-Vicious Doqs, L.E.M.C. Code and Enforcement Humane Officers Mo Middleton and Willa Bagwell of the Animal Friends of the Valley, answered the Commission's questions and responded to their concerns regarding barking dogs and other dog-related enforcement problems. Humane Officer Mo Middleton stated the regulations the City has in place are sufficient and have assisted their organization in responding to the City's residents calls. Vice-Chair Bhutta inquired if the Humane Society could place on their Web site dogs that have been identified as dangerous dogs to include photos, sex, age, breed, markings and owner's address. He further inquired about any required identification on vicious dogs, such as specially colored collars and/or tags. 2 Commissioner Dailey inquired if posting dog and owner identification would be lawful. Humane Officer Willa Bagwell stated animal friends does have a vicious dog tag, adding that these were not being used or issued. Humane Officer Mo Middleton responded she would was not certain if they were able to provide the information on their Web site. She noted there are currently 18 dogs that have been classified as "dangerous" and two as vicious in the City of Lake Elsinore. Chairman Norkin inquired about the number of barking dog complaints they receive on a daily basis. Humane Officer Willa Bagwell responded they receive an average of six complaints per day. She also indicated that they receive more dog barking complaints because the new tract homes have wrought iron fences around them and dogs can see through them, which promotes dogs barking. Chairman Norkin inquired how the public can learn of a dangerous dog. Humane Officer Mo Middleton stated compliance procedures address owner's responsibility for public safety. Humane Officer Mo Middleton indicated the City of Lake Elsinore has a very strong ordinance which provides better control of issues in the City than what other cities have. Vice Chairman Bhutta inquired about "leash law" enforcement. Humane Officer Willa Bagwell indicated 165 loose dogs have been caught by Animal Friends this year to date. She noted staffing Animal Friends includes 24- hour response, plus one officer in the City for five hours per day. She indicated Animal Friends has a total of five officers on staff. Chairman Norkin asked if staffing was sufficient. Humane Officer Willa Bagwell responded it was not sufficient to keep up with the patrol needs of the City due to growth. It was motioned by Vice-Chair Bhutta, and seconded by Commissioner Dailey to receive and file the report. 3 The following vote resulted: AYES: CHAIRMAN NORKIN VICE-CHAIR BHUTTA COMMISSIONER DAILY COMMISSIONER LYONS COMMISSIONER STEWART NOES: NONE ABSTAIN: NONE ABSENT: NONE 3. Citizens Corps/Community Emerqency Response Traininq (C.E.R.T.) Overview Bill Payne, Public Works Manager, introduced Cynthia Quigley of the County of Riverside Emergency Services. Ms. Quigley's half hour presentation consisted of establishing goals and objectives, volunteer functions and duties, Council Task Area responsibilities, duties and procedures, funding, staff support and establishing an action plan and implementing a schedule. It was motioned by Commissioner Stewart, and seconded by Commissioner Dailey to receive and file the report. The following vote resulted: AYES: CHAIRMAN NORKIN VICE-CHAIR BHUTTA COMMISSIONER DAILY COMMISSIONER LYONS COMMISSIONER STEWART NOES: NONE ABSTAIN: NONE ABSENT: NONE 4. Review of L.E.M.C. 10.12, Parkinq ReQulations - "Park Smart" Proqram 1st Year Results Information/Communications Manager Dennis presented the staff report. Code Enforcement Officer Lopez reported to the Commission that Code Enforcement Officers and staff effectively use the "Park Smart" regulations and 4 have also helped increase public awareness of the parking restrictions and recreational storage requirements in the City. He indicated the flyer has been very successful. Commissioner Lyons requested the City look into changing the rule for parking your RV in front of your home from 24 hours to 48 hours. It was motioned by Commissioner Dailey, and seconded by Vice-Chair Bhutta to receive and file the report. The following vote resulted: AYES: CHAIRMAN NORKIN VICE-CHAIR BHUTTA COMMISSIONER DAILY COMMISSIONER LYONS COMMISSIONER STEWART NOES: NONE ABSTAIN: NONE ABSENT: NONE 5. Discussion of Sample Ordinance Requlatinq Newsstands in the Public Riqht-Of- Way Information/Communications Manager Dennis presented the staff report. Assistant City Attorney Mann reviewed the three options the Commission could take with regards to newsracks. He stated he had provided the Commission with Diamond Bar, San Leandro and Temecula's ordinance pertaining to regulations of news-racks in the public right-of-way. Mr. Darrell Hemme, Post Office Employee, addressed the problems the news racks were creating in front of the post office. After further discussion, the Commission directed the Assistant City Attorney to draft an ordinance similar to the City of Temecula. It was motioned by Commissioner Dailey, and seconded by Vice-Chair Bhutta to direct the City Attorney's Office to draft an ordinance similar to the City of Temecula regarding newsracks in the public right-of-way. 5 The following vote resulted: AYES: CHAIRMAN NORKIN VICE-CHAIR BHUTTA COMMISSIONER DAilY COMMISSIONER l YONS COMMISSIONER STEWART NOES: NONE ABSTAIN: NONE ABSENT: NONE PUBLIC SAFETY SUBCOMMITTEE REPORTS None. CITY STAFF COMMENTS Information/Communications Manager Dennis made the following announcements: 1. Announced the lake Elsinore Unified School District will be holding a joint meeting with the City Council on October 25th at 4:30 p.m. in the School District Board Room, 545 Chaney Avenue. 2. The next City Council meeting will be held on Tuesday, October 23rd. PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISORY COMMISSIONERS' COMMENTS Commissioner Stewart thanked Public Works Manager Payne and Cynthia Quigley for their CERT presentation. Vice-Chair Bhutta inquired if there was an increase in the crime rate in Lake Elsinore. There being no one from the Police Department to address his question, it was deferred to the next regular PSAC meeting. Chairman Norkin requested staff place graffiti and surveillance on the November agenda. 6 ADJOURNMENT It was the consensus of the Commission to adjourn to a Regular Meeting on November 14, 2007, in the Cultural Center located at 183 North Main Street, Lake Elsinore, California, CA, 92530. Chairman Norkin adjourned the meeting at 8:00 p.m. V IAN M. MUNSON CLERK OF THE BOARD 7 MINUTES PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISORY COMMISSION REGULAR MEETING CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE 183 NORTH MAIN STREET LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA WEDNESDAY, NOVEMBER 14, 2007 ............................................................................... CALL TO ORDER - 6:00 P.M. Chairman Norkin called the Public Safety Advisory Commission Regular Meeting to order at 6:03 p.m. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Commissioner Dailey. ROLL CALL PRESENT: CHAIRMAN NORKIN VICE-CHAIR BHUTTA COMMISSIONER DAILEY COMMISSIONER LYONS COMMISSIONER STEWART ABSENT: NONE Also present were: Information/Communications Manager Dennis, Assistant City Attorney Mann, Lake and Aquatic Resources Director Kilroy, Traffic Engineer Basubas, Deputy Narciso and Clerk of the Board Munson. PUBLIC COMMENTS There were no public comments from the floor. CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS 1. Minutes of the followinQ meetinQs: a) Regular meeting of August 8,2007 b) Study Session of September 26, 2007 c) Regular meeting of October 10, 2007 Recommendation: Approve the minutes as submitted. 1 It was motioned by Commissioner Stewart, and seconded by Commissioner Lyons to approve the Consent Calendar. The following vote resulted: AYES: CHAIRMAN NORKIN VICE-CHAIR BHUTTA COMMISSIONER DAILEY COMMISSIONER LYONS COMMISSIONER STEWART NOES: NONE ABSTAIN: NONE ABSENT: NONE BUSINESS ITEMS 2. Draft Ordinance Establishinq Special Event Permit Requirement for Hvdroplane Vessels Lake & Aquatic Resources Director Kilroy presented the staff report. He noted currently, there is no regulation to prevent hydroplane vessels that can exceed speeds in excess of 150 mph and can become air borne from operating on Lake Elsinore. Vice-Chair Bhutta stated the owner of Freedom Racing Team seemed to be a responsible person. However, he stated this type of boating is incompatible with amateur boaters and is a safety concern. He noted the City should require these types of operators to obtain a special permit; however, not place too many additional conditions. Commissioner Lyons inquired if this ordinance pertained to all vessels that can run over 80 mph. Lake & Aquatic Resources Director Kilroy responded this ordinance only pertained to hydroplane vessels. Chairman Norkin inquired what was covered under a special permit. Lake & Aquatic Resources Director Kilroy responded the special permit is a $200 processing fee, with a $1,000 refundable deposit, based on the event and everything being intact after the event. 2 Commissioner Dailey stated she was glad the Commission visited this issue and would like the Commission to visit this issue every year. She also thanked staff for all of the hard work. Commissioner Lyons inquired what other boats would fall under the category of hydroplane vessels and would this ordinance apply to them. Lake & Aquatic Resources Director Kilroy responded the City would follow the guidelines of the National Jet Boat Racing Association of what qualifies as high end hydroplanes. Commissioner Stewart inquired if this ordinance established a speed limit in the high speed zone. Lake & Aquatic Resources Director Kilroy confirmed it did not. It was motioned by Vice-Chair Bhutta, and seconded by Commissioner Stewart to recommend placing the ordinance on the City Council agenda for consideration. The following vote resulted: AYES: CHAIRMAN NORKIN VICE-CHAIR BHUTTA COMMISSIONER DAILEY COMMISSIONER LYONS COMMISSIONER STEWART NOES: NONE ABSTAIN: NONE ABSENT: NONE 3. Ordinance Requlatinq Hotel and Motel Reqistration Information/Communications Manager Dennis introduced Deputy Narciso who presented the staff report. He stated the Lake Elsinore Police Department is requesting City Council to adopt an ordinance mandating that hotels and motels require guests to provide identification prior to renting a room. He stated the Police Department believes that requiring identification will protect the public from fraudulent credit card use and theft. Vice-Chair Bhutta stated he agreed with the Police Department and stated the City needed this type of ordinance. 3 Chairman Norkin inquired how long the hotels will need to hold onto this information, how it is going to be enforced, and if the City finds the hotels in non- compliance, what are the repercussions. Assistant City Attorney Mann responded the statute does not provide as to how long the hotels would hold onto the information. He stated it could be added to the ordinance. He also stated the Municipal Code has a catch all provision at the front end that allows for the City to impose an infraction or a misdemeanor fine on anyone who violates a Municipal Code section. It was motioned by Commissioner Dailey, and seconded by Vice-Chair Bhutta to recommend adoption by the City Council. The following vote resulted: AYES: CHAIRMAN NORKIN VICE-CHAIR BHUTTA COMMISSIONER DAILEY COMMISSIONER LYONS COMMISSIONER STEWART NOES: NONE ABSTAIN: NONE ABSENT: NONE 4. Status Report Implementation of Shoreline Safety-Life Savino Rinqs and Emerqency Call Boxes Lake & Aquatic Resources Director Kilroy presented the staff report. He noted an error in the staff report indicating that ten Life Saving Rings where purchased when only nine were purchased. He stated nine have been installed and one is on order. He also reported prior to ordering the emergency call boxes, it was determined that the proposed emergency call box system would not work with the County's 911 system. He noted that the call boxes are based upon an "auto dialer" system. He indicated that the Sheriffs Department was concerned about the high frequency of "false 911 phone calls" and may slow the response to actual emergencies. Lake & Aquatic Resources Director Kilroy indicated the City is exploring the screening of calls from the emergency boxes by a private security/alarm monitoring company. However, this raises issues of properly "labeling' the call boxes, as well as City liability for dependable management of the system. 4 Commissioner Dailey recommended the call boxes be raised to keep out of the reach of children. Vice-Chair Bhutta inquired if the City has looked into private monitoring companies. Lake & Aquatic Resources Director Kilroy responded he has not. Vice-Chair Bhutta inquired if there will be signs placed around the boxes, both in English and in Spanish, stating "if there is a 9-1-1 emergency, please use your cell phone." Lake & Aquatic Resources Director Kilroy confirmed signs will be placed near the boxes both in English and in Spanish. Commissioner Stewart inquired if staff knew of any other places where the "Code Blue" boxes have been used, where staff could do a parallel study with their statistic with regard to vandalism and false calls. Lake & Aquatic Resources Director Kilroy responded the vendor did provide the City with different locations where these boxes have been installed. He noted the vendor has not been too helpful and stated he will continue to pursue this. Chairman Norkin inquired if a pilot program can be started well before summertime to determine the usefulness of these boxes. Lake & Aquatic Resources Director Kilroy stated the City is just going to have to work out who is going to screen these calls. Chairman Norkin stated he recommended this be accomplished and these boxes be installed by next summer. It was motioned by Commissioner Dailey, and seconded by Commissioner Stewart to receive and file the report. The following vote resulted: AYES: CHAIRMAN NORKIN VICE-CHAIR BHUTTA COMMISSIONER DAILEY COMMISSIONER LYONS COMMISSIONER STEWART NOES: NONE ABSTAIN: NONE 5 ABSENT: NONE 5. Proqress Report on the Lakeshore Overlav District Subcommittee Information/Communications Manager Dennis presented the staff report. He noted the subcommittee's goals and milestone activities. He reviewed the objectives of the subcommittee. Information/Communications Manager Dennis stated the subcommittee's scope of work is to study the current Lakeshore Overlay District ordinance and make findings and recommendations for the following: 1) Evaluate the appropriateness of new dock and ramp standards; 2) Evaluate camping and RV storage guidelines and enforcement needs; 3) Evaluate building standards for pads, slabs and structures; 4) Assess conditions and constraints affecting new fencing safety standards; 5) Assess conditions and constraints on new dwelling construction; 6) Assess constraints on public access with regard to property owner rights; and 7) Assess constraints posed by floodplain and floodway issues and regulations. Vice-Chair Bhutta inquired what is next on the agenda. Information/Communications Manager Dennis responded the City is waiting for the City Attorney to complete the guidelines. Vice-Chair Bhutta inquired what kind of time frame the City is looking at for Phase III, Public Outreach. Information/Communications Manager Dennis responded Phase III needs to be preceded with the draft ordinance and the material and studies that need to be completed before that process begins. Vice-Chair Bhutta reminded staff that he suggested to get people involved around the lake and a survey be prepared. Chairman Norkin requested staff to provide an outline of the Public Outreach process. Information/Communications Manager Dennis provided the background on the process of the Public Outreach for example: doing a survey, direct mail pieces, and public meetings at the Commissions level. It was motioned by Commissioner Stewart, and seconded by Commissioner Lyons to receive and file the report. The following vote resulted: 6 AYES: CHAIRMAN NORKIN VICE-CHAIR BHUTTA COMMISSIONER DAILEY COMMISSIONER LYONS COMMISSIONER STEWART NOES: NONE ABSTAIN: NONE ABSENT: NONE PUBLIC SAFETY SUBCOMMITTEE REPORTS None. CITY STAFF COMMENTS Information/Communications Manager Dennis made the following announcements: 1. Wished the Commission a Happy Thanksgiving. 2. Announced Elsinore Outlets will be holding their Annual Tree Lighting ceremony on November 16-18th. 3. Announced the Unity in the Community Parade on November 17th at 10:00 a.m. 4. Farmer's Market, Thursday, November 15th, from 4-7:00 p.m. on Main Street and Peck. PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISORY COMMISSIONERS' COMMENTS Commissioner Lyons thanked everyone for attending to include the representative from local boat manufacturers. Commissioner Dailey wished everyone a Happy Thanksgiving. Vice-Chair Bhutta requested the City send a post card out to all residents in both English and in Spanish with regards to the new graffiti laws. Vice-Chair Bhutta requested the City establish a registry for vicious dogs. Vice-Chair Bhutta inquired when Citizens' Corp. will be up and running. Chairman Norkin reminded staff it was about time PSAC has a study session with the City Council. 7 Chairman Norkin stated he agreed with Vice-Chair Bhutta and Commissioner Dailey's comments with regard to following up on PSAC's recommendations and the continuation of monitoring the special permits for hydroplane vessels. Chairman Norkin wished everyone a Happy Thanksgiving. ADJOURNMENT It was the consensus of the Commission to adjourn to a Regular Meeting on December 12, 2007, in the Cultural Center located at 183 North Main Street, Lake Elsinore, California, CA, 92530. Chairman Norkin adjourned the meeting at 7:06 p.m. MIKE OR , CHAIRMAN PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISORY COMMISSION L VI IAN M. MUNSON CLERK OF THE BOARD 8