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HomeMy WebLinkAbout01-11-2006 PSAC MINUTES PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISORY COMMISSION MEETING CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE 183 NORTH MAIN STREET LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA WEDNESDAY, JANUARY 11, 2006 **************************************************************** CALL TO ORDER Chairman Hewison called the Public Safety Advisory Commission Meeting to order at 6:02 p.m. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Information/Communications Manager Dennis. ROLL CALL PRESENT: COMMISSIONERS: KNIGHT, HEWISON, SUND, ZANELLI ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: ARNOLD Also present were: Information/Communications Manager Dennis and City Clerk Ray. PUBLIC COMMENTS None. BUSINESS ITEMS 21.Shoreline Safety Budget Request. Information/Communications Manager Dennis gave an in-depth overview of the item. He noted that funding would come from unallocated revenues collected. He further noted that the total estimate for the Item, as prepared Agenda Item No. Page_Of_ Page Two - Public Safety Advisory Commission Minutes - January 11,2006 by Lake & Aquatic Resources Director Kilroy, was $105 thousand. He indicated that the recommendation was for a motion to receive and file the staff report. MOVED BY KNIGHT, SECONDED BY ZANELLI AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT, WITH COMMISSIONER ARNOLD ABSENT, TO RECEIVE AND FILE STAFF REPORT. 22. Letter of Appreciation for Ms. Wendy Kolk. Legislative Assistant to First District Supervisor Bob Buster. Riverside County. Information/Communications Manager Dennis gave an in-depth overview of the Item. He noted that Ms. Kolk's efforts generated positive feedback from County officials on the letter. MOVED BY KNIGHT, SECONDED BY ZANELLI AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT, WITH COMMISSIONER ARNOLD ABSENT, TO APPROVE LETTER OF APPRECIATION FOR ASSISTANCE WITH LAKE SHORELINE PROPERTY OWNERS NOTIFICA TION MAILING. 23.Vehicle Parking Ordinance Analysis and Review. Information/Communications Manager Dennis gave an in-depth overview of the Item. He noted that the Ordinance Review Subcommittee had completed an analysis of the vehicle parking ordinance of a neighboring city to compare with the City's existing parking regulations. Information/Communications Manager Dennis indicated that the major concerns of residents and the City Council consisted of enforcement consistency between the Municipal Code, the Vehicle Code as well as private neighboring Codes, Covenants and Restrictions; in addition to parking restrictions for commercial and oversized vehicles on City streets and truck routes, temporary R V parking restrictions and exceptions, boat parking and public outreach. Agenda Item No. Page_Of_ Page Three - Public Safety Advisory Commission Minutes - January 11,2006 Information/Communications Manager Dennis indicated that the Ordinance Review Subcommittee offered written suggestions on how to update the Parking Ordinance. He noted that the recommendation was to consider the suggestions and discuss the Item in order to formulate recommendations that could be developed and passed on to the City Council for further action. Commissioner Zanelli indicated that Commissioner Arnold had previously noted his concern with the consideration of turning some of the enforcement over to the City's Code Enforcement personnel. He stated the information contained in Chapter 10, section 12.020 of the Lake Elsinore Municipal Code gave authorization to Code Enforcement personnel and other people the City Manager may designate to enforce any provisions of the City's parking code. Chairman Hewison noted that the Temecula example that was given referred to stopping, standing and parking. He noted that the before mentioned was covered in Lake Elsinore's Code 10.40. He noted that it seemed as though there were contradictions within the City's Code. Commissioner Zanelli indicated that Section 10.40 of the Code stated that Council may establish parking restrictions on certain streets and portions thereof. He suggested that any and all parking regulations be included in the Enforcement Personnel section. Chairman Hewison suggested combining sections 10.12.020 and 10.40.110. Commissioner Zanelli requested that he would like clarification on specific areas of Commissioner Arnold's analysis. He noted that Lake Elsinore was a recreational city. He further noted that he was concerned with the material Commissioner Arnold brought forth concerning a limited number of City- issued permits to be used for residents preparing for a recreational outing with their trailer or motor home. Commissioner Zanelli indicated that Commercial Vehicles were covered in section 10.40.100 of the Lake Elsinore Municipal Code. He further indicated that section 10.40.110 covered the Seventy-two hour limit. Agenda Item No. Page_Of_ Page Four - Public Safety Advisory Commission Minutes - January 11,2006 Commissioner Sund stated that her and Commissioner Arnold's suggestion for parking had to do with regulation over the Seventy-two hour limit. She noted that there were instances in her neighborhood where vehicles were parked all year long, but moved for the street sweeper or only moved 6 feet every three days to keep up with her neighborhood's CC&R. Information/Communications Manager Dennis noted that the City was not responsible for CC&Rs. Commissioner Zanelli stated that he did not have a problem with the City enforcing parking regulations on the street. He stated that he did not want to become so restrictive that the City would impair someone's ability to use a recreational vehicle. Chairman Hewison noted that he was reluctant to debate the details of Commissioner Arnold's wording without him present. He noted that it would be good to have Code Enforcement present at a meeting to tell the Commission the problems as Code Enforcement perceived them. He noted that the plan for next month's meeting was to have both Commissioner Arnold and Code Enforcement present. Chairman Hewison noted that he would like to see section 10.40 of the Lake Elsinore Municipal Code under Code Enforcement. He stated that since the City was under a contract for Police Services, the City would be paying a higher rate for a Deputy to take care of a vehicle violation rather than Code Enforcement. He noted that Code Enforcement was potentially more efficient since they were under the direct control of the City staff. Commissioner Zanelli requested clarification on the definition of CC&Rs and their enforcement in homeowner areas. Commissioner Hewison indicated that the only way to get enforcement was to have an Association Management Company. He noted that the only way to get an Association Management Company was to pay for it. He further noted that the only way to pay for an Association Management Company was to charge dues. Agenda Item No. Page_Of_ Page Five - Public Safety Advisory Commission Minutes - January 11,2006 MOVED BY ZANELLI, SECONDED BY KNIGHT AND CARRIED BY A UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT, WITH COMMISSIONER ARNOLD ABSENT, TO HAVE ITEM NO. 23 CONTINUED TO THE NEXT REGULARLY SCHEDULED PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISORY MEETING. OLD BUSINESS 1. Large Parties Ordinance. Information/Communications Manager Dennis indicated that he was pleased to report that the recommendations from the PSAC were met with a few questions and an overall positive interest at the City Council Agenda Review Study Session. He noted that Chairman Hewison explained the intent of discussion amongst the Commission regarding more forward language in the Large Parties Ordinance. He further noted that the Item passed unanimously at the City Council Meeting. He stated that the Item would direct the Legal Counsel for the City to begin compiling new language that would be brought back to the City Council. Chairman Hewison inquired if any comments were received by the City Attorney. Information/Communications Manager Dennis indicated that he had not had any discussion with the City Attorney since the City Council Meeting. He noted that he would follow up with the City Attorney. 2. Emergency Preparedness billing insert. Information/Communications Manager Dennis indicated that there had not been much forward movement on the Item. He noted that the date had been set for the inserts to go out in the Spring CR&R bill. 3. PSAC structure and ordinance. Agenda Item No. Page_Of_ Page Six - Public Safety Advisory Commission Minutes - January 11,2006 Information/Communications Manager Dennis indicated that at the last PSAC meeting it had been declared that there was further work and analysis needed to make recommendations that would go along with the previous discussions of inconsistencies in the various chartering pieces of legislation that created the PSAC. He further noted that there were some inconsistencies in the City Council Policy Manual in regard to the terms of office for the PSAC. He noted that the subcommittee for the Item had not had a chance to meet due to the absence of Commissioner Arnold. He stated that the intent would be to create a memorandum that would summarize all of the recommendations. Chairman Hewison noted that the original intent was to try and have a memo to the City Council for the January 24, 2006 City Council meeting. He stated that he would still like to see that happen. Information/Communications Manager Dennis indicated that the deadline to bring that Item to the City Council would be January 18,2006 in order to put that item on the agenda. INFORMATIONAL a. Acknowledgement letter to Deidre Person. Information/Communications Manager Dennis indicated that the letter to be sent to Mrs. Person would summary the interaction that staff had with her, the interaction that she had with the Police Department, as well as commending her for her willingness to raise awareness with her dedication to start a Neighborhood Watch unit in her neighborhood. Commissioner Zanelli indicated that he was happy to see that steps had been taken to encourage Mrs. Person to be involved. He stated that he had hoped that she would see that the City was open to input. Agenda Item No. Page_Of_ Page Seven - Public Safety Advisory Commission Minutes - January 11,2006 b. Citizen Request: Scott Elliot Information/Communications Manger Dennis indicated that the request was concerning a traffic issue in the Canyon Hills neighborhood during pick up and drop off hours at the Cottonwood Elementary School. He noted that traffic was a problem with many schools. He stated that he would contact Mr. Elliot. c. PSAC action log format. Information/Communications Manager Dennis indicated that new software had been obtained to track PSAC activities and citizen requests. He noted that the new software would be used going forward. He further noted that the Action Log would continue to be published on a monthly basis. PUBLIC SAFETY SUBCOMMITTEE REPORTS None. CITY STAFF COMMENTS Information/Communications Manager Dennis commented on the following: 1) Noted that the City Council approved the $2.7 million interim improvements to Railroad Canyon Road. 2) Noted Lieutenant Keopp was moving to the Banning location. 3) Noted Chamber Installation Dinner on January 21, 2006 at 6 p.m. at the Diamond. 4) Noted Youth Safety Summit Breakfast on January 13,2006 at 8 a.m. at the Diamond. COMMISSIONERS COMMENTS Agenda Item No. Page_Of_ Page Eight - Public Safety Advisory Commission Minutes - January 11, 2006 Commissioner Zanelli commented on the following: 1) Noted that Mike Lewis reserved a table for the Commission at Youth Safety Summit Breakfast. 2) Noted that he would like to have a different type of statistic in regard to monthly incidents reports from the Fire Department. 3) Requested a copy of the Conditional Use Permit for the motocross track so it could be reviewed for any safety requirements that were in place and potential additions that may be beneficial to the riders. Commissioner Sund commented on the following: No comments. Vice Chairman Knight commented on the following: 1) Noted that although he would like to, he would not be able to attend the Youth Safety Summit due to a conflict in his schedule with a previous engagement. Chairman Hewison commented on the following: 1) Noted that there were several Action items that came out of the Neighborhood Watch Meeting held October 8, 2005. He indicated that the flier that outlined the legality and use of pocket bikes was not only for the Reflections Home Tract. He noted that he would like to be proactive in distributing those fliers to the HOAs. ADJOURNMENT THE PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISORY COMMISSION MEETING WAS ADJOURNED AT 6:55 P.M. Agenda Item No. Page_Of_ Page Nine - Public Safety Advisory Commission Minutes - January 11, 2006 n () 1\ ~"-^-\. ~'\ ~ / RON HEWISON, CHAIRMAN PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISORY COMMISSION Respectfully submitted, Jliktu !Ntw MICHELLE SOTO, DEPUTY CITY CLERK ATTEST: FRED~lITY CLERK CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE Agenda Item No. Page_Of_ MINUTES PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISORY COMMISSION MEETING CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE 183 NORTH MAIN STREET LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA WEDNESDAY, MARCH 8, 2006 **************************************************************** CALL TO ORDER Chairman Hewison called the Public Safety Advisory Commission Meeting to order at 6:05 p.m. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Commissioner Zanelli. ROLL CALL PRESENT: COMMISSIONERS: ARNOLD, HEWISON, SUND, ZANELLI ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: KNIGHT Also present were: Information/Communications Manager Dennis and City Clerk Ray. PUBLIC COMMENTS Douglas Lanphere, resident, stated that he had addressed the City Council in regard to an agenda item that banned medical marijuana dispensaries. He stated that he advised the City Council of the California Health and Safety Code. He noted that the Council agreed and adopted the language that his group had proposed to Ordinance No. 1173. He noted that the issue of legalized medical marijuana began 10 years ago in, 1996, when the voters of California passed Proposition 215. He noted that the ballot initiative was codified into Health and Safety Code Section 11362.5. He noted that one of the law's provisions was to encourage the federal and state governments to implement a plan to provide for the safe and affordable distribution of marijuana to all patients in medical need Agenda Item No. Page_Of_ Page 2 Public Safety Advisory Commission - March 8, 2006 of marijuana. He noted that the State legislature implemented a plan to provide for safe and affordable access of medical marijuana by passing Senate Bill 420 on September 11, 2003. He further noted that Senate Bill 420 was codified into Health and Safety Code Section 11362.7. He noted that law allowed and provided State ID cards to qualified medical marijuana patients and caregivers. He noted that advocacy groups in Riverside County felt that qualified patients and caregivers should have a safe and affordable place to get their medication. He noted that Collectives and Cooperatives would expect law enforcement's cooperation and protection. He noted that he would be happy to meet with the staff or the Commission regarding further discussion. David Markarian, 44489 Town Center Way, Palm Desert, stated that he was a medical marijuana patient. He noted that he could not afford expensive pain medications, so his doctor prescribed him marijuana for medicinal purposes. Martin Victor, Temecula, stated that he had been working with the District Attorney's Office and other government agencies. He commented on Temecula's Ordinance. He stated that people in need of medical marijuana did not pose a problem to the community. He requested that a dispensary location be provided. La V onne Victor, Temecula, stated that she understood the concerns with Cooperatives and Collectives and the concern on behalf of law enforcement. She noted that the doctor prescribed her marijuana for medicinal purposes as a necessity. She noted that having Cooperative and Collectives allowed for patients to get together and help each other in unity to provide for one another. She noted that she did not like dispensaries because they were not for compassionate use, only for the greed of money. She further noted that dispensaries helped people who could not grow for themselves. She stated that she was not present to support dispensaries, but to support cooperatives and collectives. She noted that she would appreciate the support of law enforcement agencies. CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS 1. Minutes. Agenda Item No. Page_Of_ Page 3 Public Safety Advisory Commission - March 8, 2006 Commissioner Arnold made a correction to the December 14, 2005 minutes on page 5 of 10, 5th paragraph, 2nd sentence, should read "straw man recommendation" . MOVED BY ZANELLI, SECONDED BY SUND AND CARRIED BY A UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR WITH MODIFICATION TO THE DECEMBER 14, 2005 MINUTES. BUSINESS ITEMS 21.2005 PSAC Annual Report. Information/Communications Manager Dennis gave an in-depth overview of the item. Commissioner Arnold noted that the report was very well done and organized. Chairman Hewison noted some minor modifications. MOVED BY ARNOLD, SECONDED BY SUND AND CARRIED BY A UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO APPROVE THE 2005 PSAC ANNUAL REPORT WITH MODIFICATIONS. 22. L.E.M.C. Chapter 1 0.40 Vehicle Parking Ordinance Study Session. Information/Communications Manager Dennis gave a brief overview of the item. He noted that a subcommittee had examined a neighboring city's parking ordinance to use as a template for the City's existing vehicle parking ordinance in the LEMC Chapter 10.40. He noted that the PSAC had adopted goals to better address parking violations and abuses. Commissioner Arnold noted that his analysis was only to provide a basis for Lake Elsinore as a lakeside community with special needs; not to set the legal basis of an ordinance. Chairman Hewison requested that all the Commissioners receive a copy of Commissioner Arnold's analysis, Commissioner Zanelli's comments from Agenda Item No. Page_Of_ Page 4 Public Safety Advisory Commission - March 8, 2006 the January 11,2006 minutes and a copy ofLEMC 10.40 and 10.12 for the study session. Mr. Dennis recommended that the study session be held March 220d at 11 a.m. in the Conference Room at City Hall or on March 23rd. MOVED BY ARNOLD, SECONDED BY ZANELLI AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO HOLD THE L.E.M.C. CHAPTER 10.40 VEHICLE PARKING ORDINANCE STUDY SESSION ON MARCH 22, 2006 AT 11 A.M. AT CITY HALL IN CONFERENCE ROOM A. INFORMATIONAL Information/Communications Manager Dennis noted that Informational Items a-h were provided as a courtesy. He further noted that they were not customary for discussion. He stated that he obtained information from the Lake & Aquatics division that the signs for the shoreline safety plan were awaiting engineering for fabrication purposes. Chairman Hewison noted that the City Attorney had prepared to present something to Council regarding large parties; he requested that it be presented to the Commission before going to Council. Information/Communications Manager Dennis noted that the production schedule fell behind with the Emergency Preparedness Brochure. He further noted that he was not able to get the approval that he needed for Council to approve the budget to produce the brochures. He noted that CR&R would hold a place for the brochure for their July billing. Information/Communications Manager Dennis indicated that he received e- mails from the public for the PSAC. He indicated that once he acknowledged receipt of the e-mail, he would then distribute the e-mail to the various staff members that would appropriately handle the matter. He noted that the e-mails were predominately traffic concerns and questions. Chairman Hewison inquired if the requests from Fabrizio Garcia, Gary Lane and Terry Green had been taken care of. Agenda Item No. Page_Of_ Page 5 Public Safety Advisory Commission - March 8, 2006 Information/Communications Manager Dennis confirmed that they had all been taken care of. PUBLIC SAFETY SUBCOMMITTEE REPORTS None. CITY STAFF COMMENTS Information/Communications Manager Dennis commented on the following: 1) Noted that the Commissioners were invited to the dedication of the new alignment for Newport Road on March 15, 2006 from 4 p.m. to 5 p.m. COMMISSIONERS COMMENTS Commissioner Arnold commented on the following: 1) Noted that drivers had started using the Franklin Street Bridge and there had been complaints of speeding; as well as areas with turns that could not be viewed by the driver. 2) Noted that Franklin Street was not well marked with proper alignment of the street. 3) Noted the recent drowning that had taken place and inquired if there was anything that the PSAC could do. 4) Noted that he felt photos should be taken of the Commissioners so that residents would be able to recognize them in the community. 5) Thanked everyone for the cards he had received for the surgery he had undergone recently. Commissioner Zanelli commented on the following: 1) Thanked the Fire Chief for his reports. 2) Inquired on the amount of medical marijuana to be grown. Agenda Item No. Page_Of_ Page 6 Public Safety Advisory Commission - March 8, 2006 Mr. Lanphere indicated that he expected a commercial/warehouse environment with a square footage between 2,000-5,000 square feet. Commissioner Sund commented on the following: 1) Noted the newspaper article regarding children that have been hit by cars at Machado Elementary. Chairman Hewison commented on the following: 1) The Medical Marijuana Dispensary Ordinance and the action taken by Council. ADJOURNMENT THE PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISORY COMMISSION MEETING WAS ADJOURNED AT 6:50 P.M. u-~~~. ~- RON HEWISON, CHAIRMAN PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISORY COMMISSION Respectfully submitted, J11: / "'_ IUcAi{u &do MICHELLE SOTO, DEPUTY CLERK OF THE BOARD Agenda Item No. Page_Of_ MINUTES PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISORY COMMISSION STUDY SESSION CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE 183 NORTH MAIN STREET LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA WEDNESDAY, MARCH 22, 2006 **************************************************************** CALL TO ORDER Chairman Hewison called the Public Safety Advisory Commission Study Session to order at 11 :00 a.m. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Vice Chairman Knight. ROLL CALL PRESENT: COMMISSIONERS: HEWISON, KNIGHT, SUND, ZANELLI ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: ARNOLD (Commissioner Arnold arrived at 12:25 p.m.) Also present were: Legal Counsel Mann, Information/Communications Manager Dennis, Building & Safety Manager Chipman, Code Enforcement Officer Slater, Sergeant Lujan and Deputy Clerk of the Board Soto. PUBLIC COMMENTS No comments. DISCUSSION ITEM 1. L.E.M.C. Chapter 10.40 Vehicle Parking Ordinance. Page 2 Public Safety Advisory Commission - March 22, 2006 Chairman Hewison introduced the discussion item and deferred to Information/Communications Manager Dennis. Information/Communications Manager Dennis gave an overview of the item and the outline for the discussion. Chairman Hewison requested that Code Enforcement Officer Slater highlight areas within Chapter 10.12 and Chapter 10.40 of the LEMC that were presenting a problem for Code Enforcement's day-to-day work. Code Enforcement Officer Slater indicated that he had spoken with Code Enforcement Officer Scofield who was in charge of parking enforcement. He indicated that they agreed that they did not see any conflicts or problems with what was currently in place. He noted that complaints for commercial vehicles were down to 1 a week. He indicated that the problem that was coming into play were R V s, trailers and boats parked on the streets for months at a time. Code Enforcement Officer Slater indicated that there were currently laws in place that oversee parking enforcement. Chairman Hewison inquired if Code Enforcement Officer Slater had any comments on the California Vehicle Code. He inquired if there was a document that gave Code Enforcement the ability to tow. Code Enforcement Officer Slater indicated that that there were provisions in the California Vehicle Code that the LEMC adopted. He noted that Code Enforcement had the ability to respond to complaints that had to do with towing a vehicle. He further noted that they rely on the Sheriff s Department to take care of towing vehicles since they were equipped to tow and were trained professionals. Commissioner Zanelli inquired on Chapter 10.12.020 of the LEMC. He inquired if the last sentence of "said personnel are authorized to issue citations for all Violations of Chapters. . ." should read "Chapter 1 0.40 of the LEMC". Page 3 Public Safety Advisory Commission - March 22, 2006 Legal Counsel Mann indicated that Code Enforcement officers could enforce any of the provisions of the LEMC and it was not necessary to have "Section 10040 of the LEMC" added to the last sentence in Section 10.12.020. Sergeant Lujan commented on why the Sheriffs Department towed and Code Enforcement did not. He noted that due to procedural and safety reasons, towing should be left up to the Sheriff s Department. Chairman Hewison requested clarification on public and private streets and who appropriately would cover each kind of street. Sergeant Lujan indicated that Law Enforcement would cover public streets. Chairman Hewison inquired if all streets were covered by Law Enforcement. Building & Safety Manager Chipman indicated that all streets were covered by Law Enforcement unless they were considered a private drive. Commissioner Zanelli inquired on the cost for towing and storing a vehicle. Sergeant Lujan indicated that the vehicle cost for the impound recovery fee that was charged by the Department was $150 a day. He noted that towing companies would usually charge an additional $150 hook up fee; and a tow and storage fee from $25-35 a day. Commissioner Zanelli suggested adjusting the City's weight limit for roads to be more in line with the County's weight limit. Legal Counsel Mann agreed that the City's weight limit should reflect the County's weight limit. He noted that it could be easier to deal with length and width rather than weight since it could be easily identified by Law Enforcement. Chairman Hewison inquired if Chapter 10040 and 10.12 of the LEMC were compatible. Commissioner Zanelli indicated that the way the codes were adopted allowed Code Enforcement to enforce all sections of the LEMC. He felt that the 2 chapters were compatible. Page 4 Public Safety Advisory Commission - March 22, 2006 Chairman Hewison inquired if Chapter 10.40 and 10.12 of the LEMC could be merged. Legal Counsel Mann indicated that he did not think the 2 chapters were incompatible with one another. He noted that they could be merged. Chairman Hewison noted the differences between Temecula and Murrieta's vehicle-related Ordinances. Chairman Hewison inquired if the City should take a different stance than Temecula and Murrieta since Lake Elsinore was a recreational city. Sergeant Lujan stated that the Ordinance would greatly impact the residents. He noted that the focus should be placed on specific neighborhoods within the City. Building & Safety Manager Chipman stated that he felt the City needed stricter enforcement on recreational vehicles in the public right-of-way. He further stated that Lake Elsinore was a recreational city. He noted the lack of storage facilities within the City limits for recreational vehicles. He stated that if the City was going to promote stricter enforcement, than resources needed to be provided for residents to store their recreational vehicles. Chairman Hewison inquired if it would be more cost effective and give staff more control if Code Enforcement was able to combine public and private streets as part of their areas they were able to oversee. Code Enforcement Officer Slater indicated that Code Enforcement did possess the capabilities to see to that matter. He further indicated that as a general rule that matter should go to Law Enforcement because of safety issues and resources. Code Enforcement Officer Slater suggested that Code Enforcement work with Law Enforcement in marking and identifying problem vehicles and forwarding them to the Sheriff s Department. Sergeant Lujan indicated that Code Enforcement Officer Slater suggested a very viable option. He noted that the Sheriff s Department had Community Service Officers that could help assist with the matter. Page 5 Public Safety Advisory Commission - March 22, 2006 Legal Counsel Mann inquired if citations were ever issued for 72-hour rules. Code Enforcement Officer Slater indicated that he had issued citations for 72-hour rules. Chairman Hewison addressed the topic of approved future developments and the impact that the Ordinance may have on them. Commissioner Zanelli indicated that the Building and Planning Department needed to look at future developments to help accommodate recreational vehicles to be stored appropriately. Commissioner Zanelli suggested utilizing City owned property to run a facility that was capable of storing personal and recreational vehicles. Commissioner Sund noted that there were several storage facilities that were capable of storing personal and recreational vehicles. Commissioner Zanelli indicated that there were such facilities but most of them were full. Building & Safety Manager Chipman indicated that there were a couple of storage facilities but they offered very limited space for recreational vehicles. Legal Counsel Mann indicated that the City of Temecula had 2 detailed schemes for public parking and private parking. He noted that Temecula's parking ordinances were very restrictive. Commissioner Zanelli indicated that the current Ordinance, in terms of parking on private property, was adequate. Commissioner Knight noted that he had a problem with people parking on private property beyond the front of their fence. Chairman Hewison noted that the majority of the Commission wanted to see some changes to the Ordinance. Page 6 Public Safety Advisory Commission - March 22, 2006 Commissioner Arnold indicated that he was against RVs parking in the driveway. He noted that he believed there should be permits issued for recreational vehicles. Legal Counsel Mann indicated that there was a 72-hour limit under State law. He further indicated that if there was going to be permits issued, it was suggested that the regulatory scheme would provide for something less than 72 hours. Commissioner Zanelli indicated that permitting was cumbersome and would not solve the problem. He further indicated that the attention should be focused on specific violators and not the City as a whole. Chairman Hewison inquired if there was anything in any ordinance that had to do with restrictions with parking on driveways. Legal Counsel Mann confirmed that there was not anything that he knew of in any of the ordinances that restricted parking on driveways. Chairman Hewison requested that the City Attorney write a draft Ordinance based on the Commission's discussion. Code Enforcement Officer Slater stated that he wanted to remind the Commission that Code Enforcement did possess the capability to enforce the current provisions of the LEMC. ADJOURNMENT THE PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISORY COMMISSION STUDY SESSION WAS ADJOURNED AT 1:05 P.M. u. ~lLL. RON HEWISON, CHAIRMAN PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISORY COMMISSION Page 7 Public Safety Advisory Commi sion - March 22, 2006 Respectfully submitted, uudul U 5ftIrJ- MICHELLE SOTO, DEPUTY CLERK F THE BOARD Y, CLERK OF THE B ARD MINUTES PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISORY COMMISSION MEEETING CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE 183 NORTH MAIN STREET LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA WEDNESDAY, APRIL 12,2006 **************************************************************** CALL TO ORDER Chairman Hewison called the Public Safety Advisory Commission Meeting to order at 6:00 p.m. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Commissioner Arnold. ROLL CALL PRESENT: COMMISSIONERS: ARNOLD, HEWISON, KNIGHT, SUND, ZANELLI ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE Also present were: Legal Counsel Mann, Information/Communications Manager Dennis, Sergeant Lujan and Deputy Clerk of the Board Soto. PUBLIC COMMENTS No comments. CONSENT CALENDAR 1. Minutes. No comments. Page 2 Public Safety Advisory Commission - April 12, 2006 MOVED BY KNIGHT, SECONDED BY ARNOLD TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR AS PRESENTED. BUSINESS ITEMS 21.Review proposed revisions to L.E.M.C. Chapter 9.42, Section 9.42.010 et seq. "use of police at large parties". Information/Communications Manager Dennis commented on the Item and deferred to Legal Counsel Mann. Legal Counsel Mann gave an overview of the Item. He noted the uniformity of the other cities with this kind of ordinance. Legal Counsel Mann commented on the "first response notice". He noted that it gave more enforcement. Legal Counsel Mann noted that adding a number to relate to a "large party" was left up to the Commission. Legal Counsel Mann commented on Section 9.42.020 which related to initial police response to large parties. He noted that Section 9.42.030 related to the cost. Lastly, he noted that 9.42.060 was added as a separate section. Commissioner Arnold suggested that 1 0 was an adequate number for a large party. He suggested an escalated fee be added to 9.42.030 which could be called a "second response notice". Commissioner Zanelli concurred with the escalated fee system. He noted that $500 was very steep for the first notice. Commissioner Sund inquired how Sergeant Lujan felt about the matter. Sergeant Lujan commented that the Legal Counsel's proposed Ordinance was a good write up. He suggested a citation similar to what they used for writing up Dills. He noted that some large parties bring traffic control problems and other safety hazards. Page 3 Public Safety Advisory Commission - April 12, 2006 Commissioner Arnold commented on different type of activities and how to different between them. Commissioner Sund requested clarification on the hours for the Ordinance. Legal Counsel Mann noted that the Ordinance did not specify time. Commissioner Sund agreed that 10 was an adequate number for a large party. Vice Chairman Knight commented on 9.42.050. He commented on the appeals process and questioned if that was standard. Legal Counsel Mann commented that the 10 days could be changed. Chairman Hewison suggested changing the heading to reflect "charge for police services" and remove "use of'. Chairman Hewison suggested the Ordinance be made as tough as possible. Chairman Hewison suggested that the Item be reviewed by the Police Chief. Commissioner Arnold commented on loud social gatherings. He noted that criminal behavior might not necessarily be taking place. Commissioner Knight commented that $500 was perfect for the first offense. Sergeant Lujan commented on the third call out. He noted that at that time they encourage everyone to leave. Chairman Hewison gave a breakdown of the charges that the Commission would like to see. MOVED BY ARNOLD, SECONDED BY KNIGHT AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE TO APPROVE THE ORDINANCE WITH CHANGES AND PRESENT TO THE POLICE CHIEF. Page 4 Public Safety Advisory Commission - April 12, 2006 22.Review proposed revisions to L.E.M.C. Chapter 10.40 et aI, "Vehicle Parking Ordinance". Commissioner Arnold commented on vehicle parking. Commissioner Arnold commented that the public needed to be aware of their rights. Legal Counsel Mann gave an overview of the Item. He commented that staff addressed the extension of vehicles on sidewalks. Vice Chairman Knight commended staff on the draft Ordinance. Commissioner Sund inquired on 10.12.130. Legal Counsel Mann commented on 24-hour parking. Commissioner Arnold commented on the 9-6 provision. He noted that 25 feet was too long. Chairman Hewison noted that the intent was to approve the effectiveness of Code Enforcement and Police Enforcement. Legal Counsel Mann stated that he did not do an elaborate permit section. He noted he was looking for direction from the commission. He noted that he stripped the citation procedure out of the Ordinance. Commissioner Arnold commended Legal Counsel Mann on the draft Ordinance. Chairman Hewison noted that permits needed to be discussed. He noted that he would like to get input from Code Enforcement and Law Enforcement before having the draft Ordinance go before Council. Commissioner Zanelli noted that he was not in favor of having a permit process at this time. Page 5 Public Safety Advisory Commission - April 12, 2006 Vice Chairman Knight stated that a permit process was not needed at this time. Chairman Hewison noted that it took a considerable amount of time to monitor permits. He suggested a I-year review. Commissioner Arnold suggested having a 72-hour limitation in the Ordinance. He questioned how it would be monitored. MOVED BY KNIGHT, SECONDED BY ZANELLI AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE TO APPROVE CHANGES TO THE ORDINANCE, REVIEW AND FORWARD RECOMMENDATIONS TO CITY COUNCIL. 23.July 4th Fireworks prohibition publicity plan. Information/Communications Manager Dennis gave an overview of the Item. He noted that staff had recommended an advertising campaign primarily for the purposes of alerting residents that fireworks were illegal within City limits. Commissioner Arnold suggested reaching out to surrounding areas as well as the City to advertise. Vice Chairman Knight inquired if the entire Southwest County was illegal for fireworks. Information/Communications Dennis noted that advertising would be circulated in local newspapers. Chairman Hewison noted that Mayor Magee requested that the PSAC and Police Department work together to prevent illegal fireworks. Commissioner Arnold inquired about addressing lake safety. Page 6 Public Safety Advisory Commission - April 12, 2006 MOVED BY ARNOLD, SECONDED BY KNIGHT AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE TO APPROVE A NEWSPAPER AND CABLE ADVERTISING PLAN AND FORWARD THE RECOMMENDATION TO COUNCIL. PUBLIC SAFETY SUBCOMMITTEE REPORTS None. CITY STAFF COMMENTS Information/Communications Manager Dennis commented on the following: 1) Noted approval of 4-year terms for the PSAC by Council. COMMISSIONERS COMMENTS Commissioner Sund commented on the following: 1) Noted safety issues at Machado Elementary. 2) Commented on vehicles stolen in her neighborhood. Vice Chairman Knight commented on the following: 1) Commended Legal Counsel Mann on the draft Ordinance. Commissioner Arnold commented on the following: 1) Commented on lake safety which was discussed in August. Commissioner Zanelli commented on the following: 1) Thanked Legal Counsel Mann for the draft Ordinance. Chairman Hewison commented on the following: Page 7 Public Safety Advisory Commission - April 12, 2006 1) Noted that L.E.M.C. 2.40.060 was not addressed in the PSAC Ordinance which related to duties of the PSAC. 2) Requested that a presentation be done on shoreline safety at the next regularly scheduled meeting. 3) Commented on public safety grants and requested that one of the Commissioners take the lead. Commissioner Zanelli volunteered to take the lead. 4) Suggested someone help with the shoreline safety Ordinance. Commissioner Arnold volunteered. 5) Thanked staff for their continued support. ADJOURNMENT THE PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISORY COMMISSION MEETING WAS ADJOURNED AT 7:48 P.M. W.lb~G-, RON HEWISON, CHAIRMAN PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISORY COMMISSION Respectfully submitted, L16ckC& sdu MICHELLE SOTO, DEPUTY CLERK OF THE BOARD Page 8 Public Safety Advisory Commission - April 12, 2006 Attest: ~~y, CLERK OF THE BOARD MINUTES PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISORY COMMISSION STUDY SESSION CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE 183 NORTH MAIN STREET LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA WEDNESDAY, MAY 3, 2006 **************************************************************** CALL TO ORDER Chairman Hewison called the Public Safety Advisory Commission Study Session to order at 9:04 a.m. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Commissioner Sund. ROLL CALL PRESENT: COMMISSIONERS: ARNOLD, HEWISON, KNIGHT, SUND, ZANELLI ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE Also present were: Legal Counsel Mann, Information/Communications Manager Dennis, Building & Safety Manager Chipman, Code Enforcement Officer Slater, Sergeant Lujan and Clerk of the Board Ray. PUBLIC COMMENTS No comments. DISCUSSION ITEM A. Proposed revisions to L.E.M.C. Vehicle Parking Ordinance. Page 2 Public Safety Advisory Commission - May 3, 2006 Chairman Hewison introduced the item. He noted that no action would be taken on the item during the Study Session. Chairman Hewison noted that the impact of the Vehicle Parking ordinance on residents should be considered. Building & Safety Manager Chipman indicated that he had reviewed the documents pertaining to the discussion item. He commented that they could move ahead with the proposed revisions. Legal Counsel Mann noted that few changes were made and Section 10.12.130b had added a provision on subparagraph 2. He noted that the possibility of permits had been eliminated. Legal Counsel Mann noted that he had proposed a potential overnight provision for RV parking. Building & Safety Manager Chipman noted that Code Enforcement did not work nights. Legal Counsel Mann noted the effectiveness of enforcing overnight provisions for RV parking. Code Enforcement Office Slater suggested that overnight enforcement could be handled by the Sheriff s department. He noted that having the language in place for the 9-6 provision would allow for enforcement if needed. Commissioner Arnold commented on the distinctions of the 24-hour restriction. Commissioner Arnold commented on Section 10.12.040. He noted that he had a concern with the process for the designation of handicap spaces. Building & Safety Manager Chipman noted that the formula for the designation process of handicap spaces was outlined by the California Code and Regulations. He explained the process behind the designation of handicap spaces. Commissioner Arnold commented on paragraph 10.12.060. Page 3 Public Safety Advisory Commission - May 3, 2006 Commissioner Arnold commented on the differences in Temecula and Murrieta's related ordinances. He noted that they seem to be inclined to tie size to weight for commercial vehicles. Legal Counsel Mann noted that Temecula and Murrieta's ordinances tied into the California Vehicle Code. Commissioner Zanelli commented on Section 10.12.130a. He suggested going with a 24-hour provision. He noted that residents needed to be taken into consideration. He noted that the 9-6 provision would be a burden on residents. Vice Chairman Knight inquired on the language used in Section 10.12.150. Legal Counsel Mann indicated that the current language used was adequate. Code Enforcement Officer Slater indicated that the current language used was good in his opinion. Chairman Hewison noted a change that he had proposed to Section 10.40.065 that had not been added in. Legal Counsel Mann noted that he would add the change to Section 10.40.065. Chairman Hewison inquired if the language for commercial or oversized vehicles could be kept consistent throughout the ordinance. Legal Counsel Mann noted that he would confirm if the language could be consistent throughout the ordinance. He noted that adopting the definition of commercial vehicles for the vehicle would solve a lot of the problem. Chairman Hewison commented on the 24-hour time restriction in Section 10.12.130a. He noted that people should not have to move their RV by 6 a.m. the next morning. Sergeant Lujan noted that the limited timeframe. should only be for weekends. Page 4 Public Safety Advisory Commission - May 3, 2006 Building & Safety Manager Chipman commented that holidays should also be taken into consideration. Commissioner Zanelli noted that not everyone worked the same hours. He noted that he would not agree with trying to put any enforcement on specific days of the week. Vice Chairman Knight noted that he would be in favor of the 24-hour prOVISIon. Commissioner Arnold noted that he would be in favor of the 24-hour prOVISIon. Commissioner Sund noted that she would be in favor of the 9-6 provision. Chairman Hewison inquired what ability the 24':'hour provision of the ordinance gave Code Enforcement that they did not have before. Legal Counsel Mann noted Code Enforcement would only need to refer to 1 section rather than 2. He noted that there was also recognition of oversized vehicles. Chairman Hewison commented on driveway issues. Legal Counsel Mann noted that driveway issues had been addressed. He indicated that there was a provision added about extending into the sidewalk and that a vehicle not be parked to extend on to the sidewalk. Chairman Hewison inquired about the possibility of hiring additional Code Enforcement officers. Building & Safety Manager Chipman indicated that currently he was trying to replace the existing positions that were not filled. He noted that he was not anticipating putting in any additional Code Enforcement officers in the 2006/2007 budget. Commissioner Arnold inquired if there was a way to involve the public with enforcing the 24-hour provision. Page 5 Public Safety Advisory Commission - May 3, 2006 Legal Counsel Mann noted that from a prosecution standpoint it would be difficult to involve the public. He noted if someone challenged the citation, the only person that would typically be called to testify would be the officer. He noted that he was not aware of any city currently doing it that way. Chairman Hewison highlighted the issues that had been discussed. Information/Communications Manager Dennis indicated that the PSAC had the right to make a recommendation to have an additional Code Enforcement officer. B. Proposed revisions to "Larges Parties" Ordinance. Chairman Hewison commented on the item. Legal Counsel Mann noted a change that would be made in the ordinance. He noted that it had been agreed that 10 people created a large party. Sergeant Lujan indicated that he agreed with the ordinance. Commissioner Sund indicated that she had a neighbor that has been having frequent parties. She commented that she called the police several times during the last party that her neighbor had and they never showed up. Sergeant Lujan noted that he would need to look in to why no one showed. Commissioner Zanelli inquired if a party house could be justified as a public nUIsance. Legal Counsel Mann noted that the City had not gone that route. He noted that it was a very aggressive program. Sergeant Lujan commented that the program took a lot of documentation. Vice Chairman Knight commented on the fines. He noted that he was in favor of doubling the fines. Chairman Hewison noted some of the discrepancies he noticed in the proposed revised ordinance. Page 6 Public Safety Advisory Commission - May 3, 2006 Chairman Hewison commented on the overall discussion of the Study Session. ADJOURNMENT THE PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISORY COMMISSION STUDY SESSION WAS ADJOURNED AT 10:51 A.M. U.L;c RON HEWISON, CHAIRMAN PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISORY COMMISSION Respectfully submitted, UU(j~l& ~ MICHELLE SOTO, DEPUTY CLERK OF THE BOARD Attest: ~ F~1fluCK Y, CLERK OF THE BOARD MINUTES PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISORY COMMISSION MEETING CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE 183 NORTH MAIN STREET LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA WEDNESDAY, JUNE 14,2006 **************************************************************** CALL TO ORDER Chairman Hewison called the Public Safety Advisory Commission Meeting to order at 6:00 p.m. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Information/Communications Manager Dennis. ROLL CALL PRESENT: COMMISSIONERS: ARNOLD, KNIGHT, SUND, ZANELLI, HEWISON ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE Also present were: Legal Counsel Mann, Information/Communications Manager Dennis, Lake & Aquatic Resources Director Kilroy, Public Works Manager Payne and Clerk of the Board Ray. PUBLIC COMMENTS No comments. CONSENT CALENDAR Page 2 - Public Safety Advisory Commission - June 14,2006 MOVED BY ARNOLD, SECONDED BY ZANELLI AND CARRIED BY A UNANIMOUS VOTE TO PULL ITEM NO.2 AND TO APPROVE THE BALANCE OF THE CONSENT CALENDAR AS PRESENTED. 1. The following minutes were approved: a. Study Session - May 3, 2006 ITEMS PULLED FROM THE CONSENT CALENDAR 2. Standard Procedures Regarding Recommendations for City Council. Chairman Hewison noted that at the last meeting it was agreed upon to pass the Large Parties Ordinance to City Council at the May 23rd meeting. He noted that did not happen because there was a need for discussion between the City Attorney and the Police Chief. He noted that this prompted the need for a procedural checklist. Information/Communications Manager Dennis noted that the checklist was intended to be an administrative tool. Commissioner Arnold inquired who would maintain and keep record of the checklist. Information/Communications Manager Dennis noted that he would retain the checklists. MOVED BY ARNOLD, SECONDED BY KNIGHT AND CARRIED BY A UNANIMOUS VOTE TO APPROVE THE PROCEDURE CHECKLIST. BUSINESS ITEMS 21.Amendment to L.E.M.C., Chapter 2.20 "Disaster Relief'. Public Works Manager Payne gave a brief overview of the item. He noted Chapter 2.20 of the L.E.M.C. complied with the California Emergency Services Act. He noted that staffwas in the process of updating the City's Emergency Operation Plan. Page 3 - Public Safety Advisory Commission - June 14, 2006 Mr. Payne noted that the revised Ordinance identified the authorities, powers and responsibilities; as well as referred to the Emergency Operation Plan for details regarding emergency response. Legal Counsel Mann noted that he was very limited to making changes on the item. Commissioner Zanelli inquired how far away the City was from having everything in place for the EOC. Public Works Manager Payne commented that he felt confident activating the EOC as of the current date. Commissioner Zanelli inquired if the PSAC could be invited to the next drill exerCIse. Public Works Manager Payne noted that he thought that would be a good idea. MOVED BY KNIGHT, SECONDED BY ZANELLI AND CARRIED BY A UNANIMOUS VOTE TO APPROVE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR CITY COUNCIL CONSIDERATION. 22.Finalize Proposed Revisions to L.E.M.C., Chapter 10.40, et al. "Vehicle Parking Ordinance" incorporating LEPD comments. Legal Counsel Mann commented on the revisions. He noted that comments from the previous meeting and from the Police Chief were incorporated. Legal Counsel Mann noted that there was one open issue that had to do with the length of the vehicles for oversized parking. He inquired if it would be acceptable to clarify the section to except out R V's as provided in subsection 5. Chairman Hewison confirmed that was okay. He inquired on the rest of the Commission's consent. The Commission confirmed. Page 4 - Public Safety Advisory Commission - June 14,2006 Chairman Hewison noted some grammatical errors. MOVED BY KNIGHT, SECONDED BY ARNOLD TO APPROVE RECOMMENDATIONS, WITH MODIFICATIONS, FOR CITY COUNCIL CONSIDERATION. Commissioner Arnold inquired if it was possible to state an effective date in the Ordinance. Legal Counsel Mann indicated that an effective date could be stated as long as it was more than 30 days after the second reading. Chairman Hewison inquired on a date. Information/Communications Manager Dennis noted that the City's quarterly newsletter was a way to circulate the news of the amended Ordinance. Commissioner Arnold suggested setting the effective date of the Ordinance to the 1 st of October. Clerk of the Board Ray noted that Ordinances, ~fter second reading, were published in the legal section of the Press Enterprise. THE FOREGOING MOTION CARRIED BY A UNANIMOUS VOTE. 23.Finalize Proposed Revisions to L.E.M.C., Chapter 9.42, Section 9.41.01 et seq "Use of Police at Large Parties". Legal Counsel Mann commented on the stand-alone provision for the Administrative Appeal, section 9.42.050 of the L.E.M.C. He noted that the proposed revision was not meant to be a fine, but a charge. MOVED BY ARNOLD, SECONDED BY KNIGHT AND CARRIED BY A VOTE TO APPROVE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR CITY COUNCIL CONSIDERATION. 24.Set Study Session to Review Graffiti Ordinance L.E.M.C. Chapter 9.52. Page 5 - Public Safety Advisory Commission - June 14,2006 Information/Communications Manager Dennis noted that the purpose of the study session was to enable the PSAC to gather with Law Enforcement, Code Enforcement and Public Works representatives to review and discuss the City's existing graffiti ordinance. MOVED BY ARNOLD, SECONDED BY ZANELLI AND CARRIED BY A UNANIMOUS VOTE TO HOLD A STUDY SESSION ON JULY 19TH. PUBLIC SAFETY SUBCOMMITTEE REPORTS None. CITY STAFF COMMENTS Information/Communications Manager Dennis commented on the following: 1) Noted the following upcoming events: June 15th - EDC Luncheon at the Diamond Club at 11 :30 a.m. July 4th - City celebration. 2) Commented on the Public Safety mailer. 3) Noted that Commissioner Zanelli was appointed to the Planning Commission. COMMISSIONERS COMMENTS Commissioner Zanelli commented on the following: No comments. Vice Chairman Knight commented on the following: No comments. Commissioner Arnold commented on the following: Page 6 - Public Safety Advisory Commission'- June 14,2006 No comments. Commissioner Sund commented on the following: No comments. Chairman Hewison commented on the following: 1) Commented on the follow-up of previous PSAC items. ADJOURNMENT THE PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISORY COMMISSION MEETING WAS ADJOURNED AT 6:57 P.M. QS.~,\~~. RON HEWISON, CHAIRMAN PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISORY COMMISSION Respectfully submitted, U(Jckih &Ju MICHELLE SOTO, DEPUTY CLERK OF THE BOARD Attest: ~(Y) FREDERIC~ Y, CLERK OF THE BOARD MINUTES PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISORY COMMISSION MEETING CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE 183 NORTH MAIN STREET LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA WEDNESDAY, JULY 12,2006 **************************************************************** CALL TO ORDER Chairman Hewison called the Public Safety Advisory Commission Meeting to order at 6:00 p.m. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Sergeant Lujan. ROLL CALL PRESENT: COMMISSIONERS: ARNOLD, KNIGHT, SUND, HEWISON ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE Also present were: Information/Communications Manager Dennis, Sergeant Lujan and Clerk of the Board Ray. PUBLIC COMMENTS No comments. CONSENT CALENDAR MOVED BY ARNOLD, SECONDED BY KNIGHT AND CARRIED BY A UNANIMOUS VOTE TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR AS PRESENTED. Page 2 - Public Safety Advisory Commission - July 12,2006 1. Minutes. Chairman Hewison noted that there were several items in the minutes that needed follow up. BUSINESS ITEMS 21.Reorganization of Officers and Council Policy 200-5A Update. Information/Communications Manager Dennis commented on the item. He noted the corrections in regard to the terms for the Commissioners. Chairman Hewison noted that Commissioner Arnold brought the issue forward in November 2005. He noted the differences between Council Policy and the PSAC Ordinance in relation to the reorganization of officers. Chairman Hewison requested that Ordinance Nos. 246, 1116, 1137 and 1176 be made available to the Commission. He noted that the issue in regard to the inconsistencies needed to be resolved. Chairman Hewison suggested discussing the item, in further detail, at the July 19th Study Session. MOVED BY KNIGHT, SECONDED BY ARNOLD AND CARRIED BY A UNANIMOUS VOTE TO DEFER THE REORGANIZATION OF OFFICERS UNTIL COUNCIL POLICY 200-5A IS APPROVED BY CITY COUNCIL. 22.0perating Budget Summary for FY 2006-07. Information/Communications Manager Dennis commented on the item. He noted that the summary sheets noted the recommended increases in the PSAC line items. Chairman Hewison commented on the budget summary. He suggested having a copy of the Community Development Budget to be able to review the Code Enforcement portion. Page 3 - Public Safety Advisory Commission - July 12,2006 Chairman Hewison suggested that staff come up with a way for the Commission to be a part of the next budget review at the policy level. Information/Communications Manager Dennis commented on budget issues as they related to Code Enforcement. He noted that the mid-year budget review was the first step along the way of determining the budget actuals. Commissioner Arnold suggested that when the Ordinance would be brought to Council, it should include a budget impact. Information/Communications Manager Dennis noted that all staff reports to Council have a section for budget impact. MOVED BY KNIGHT, SECONDED BY ARNOLD AND CARRIED BY A UNANIMOUS VOTE TO RECEIVE AND FILE THE OPERATING BUDGET SUMMARY FOR FY 2006-07. 23.Goals and Objectives Mid-Year Review. Information/Communications Manager Dennis commented on the item. He noted that the goals and objectives matrix kept tract of the items that have had activity and the items that did not have any activity. Commissioner Arnold commented on the importance of following up on items. Chairman Hewison provided the Commissioners with a memo regarding a 90-day action plan. Chairman Hewison noted that he reviewed the Santa Rosa Graffiti Ordinance. Information/Communications Manager Dennis noted the items that would be discussed at the study session. Commissioner Arnold inquired what graffiti had to do with public safety. Information/Communications Manager Dennis indicated that graffiti impacted the quality of life. Page 4 - Public Safety Advisory Commission - July 12,2006 Chairman Hewison suggested that each Commissioner review a goal and objective before the July 19th Study Session. MOVED BY HEWISON, SECONDED BY SUND AND CARRIED BY A UNANIMOUS VOTE FOR THE COMMISSIONERS TO REVIEW THE GOALS AND OBJECTIVES AND DISCUSS THEIR IDEAS AND OPINIONS FOR FUTURE GOALS AND OBJECTIVES AT THE JULY 19TH STUDY SESSION. PUBLIC SAFETY SUBCOMMITTEE REPORTS None. CITY STAFF COMMENTS Information/Communications Manager Dennis commented on the following: 1) Noted that Mike Norkin was appointed to the PSAC on behalf of Council. 2) Noted that Council approved the Large Party Ordinance. COMMISSIONERS COMMENTS Commissioner Sund commented on the following: No comments. Vice Chairman Knight commented on the following: 1) Commented on fireworks that were set off in his neighborhood on the 4th of July. He indicated that he was anxious to look at the Fireworks Ordinance. Commissioner Arnold commented on the following: 1) Commented on fireworks that were set off in and around his neighborhood on the 4th of July. Page 5 - Public Safety Advisory Commission - July 12,2006 Chairman Hewison commented on the following: 1) Requested that the agenda packet for the July 19th Study Session be distributed earlier than normal in order to allow for proper review by the Commission. 2) Noted that the Vehicle Ordinance was going to Council on July 25th. ADJOURNMENT THE PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISORY COMMISSION MEETING WAS ADJOURNED AT 6:41 P.M. ~~~;~~~ RON HEWISON, CHAIRMAN PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISORY COMMISSION Respectfully submitted, \ r lJCh[ {p &I/o ~ELLE SOTO, DEPUTY CLERK OF THE BOARD Attest: ~ly, CLERK OF THE BOARD MINUTES PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISORY COMMISSION STUDY SESSION CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE 183 NORTH MAIN STREET LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA WEDNESDAY, JULY 19,2006 **************************************************************** CALL TO ORDER Chairman Hewison called the Public Safety Advisory Commission Study Session to order at 9:07 a.m. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Commissioner Sund. ROLL CALL PRESENT: COMMISSIONERS: ARNOLD, KNIGHT, SUND, HEWISON ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NORKIN Also present were: Legal Counsel Mann, Information/Communications Manager Dennis, Community Services Director Sapp, Building & Safety Manager Chipman, Code Enforcement Officer Lopez, Equipment Operator Perez, Sergeant Lujan and Clerk of the Board Ray. PUBLIC COMMENTS No comments. DISCUSSION ITEMS 1. LEMC Graffiti Ordinance (LEMC 9.52). Page 2 - Public Safety Advisory Commission - July 19,2006 Chairman Hewison commented on the numbers provided for graffiti within the City. Community Services Director Sapp noted that he felt the numbers were accurate, but that they were rather low. He noted that he would confirm that the numbers were correct. Chairman Hewison commented on aspects of the Graffiti Ordinance. He noted the areas he felt needed to be addressed. Chairman Hewison commented on the current ordinance in place. He noted a suggestion received by resident Pete Dawson to coordinate with Supervisor Buster's office for the Lakeland Village area. He commented on anti-graffiti material. Commissioner Arnold inquired how graffiti was a public safety issue. Building & Safety Manager Chipman explained that graffiti created blight among the neighborhood. He noted that it promotes other people to do the same activities. Sergeant Lujan indicated that graffiti can be gang related. He noted that graffiti could be controversial among gang members when displayed in certain areas. He noted that graffiti was relative to public safety. Legal Counsel Mann commented that the City's Graffiti Ordinance was last updated in 2000. He highlighted areas of the ordinance. He noted that property owners must remove graffiti within 5 days. He noted that the City needed the consent of private property owners to remove graffiti on private property. He noted that the last section of the ordinance spoke of a reward system. Legal Counsel Mann commented on Santa Rosa's Ordinance. He noted that stores that sold spray cans needed employee assistance in order to unlock the case which held the can. He noted that it was Santa Rosa's requirement to have a 72-hour removal of any graffiti. He commented on penalties of violation. He noted they have a standard for graffiti removal. Page 3 - Public Safety Advisory Commission - July 19,2006 Legal Counsel Mann commented on Corona's Ordinance. He noted they had a very strong Code Enforcement aim toward graffiti. He noted that they have a special notice for their graffiti abatement process, an appeal procedure and a strong city removal procedure. He noted that they added an additional sales tax on certain products that could be used for graffiti. He commented on land use entitlements and graffiti. Legal Counsel Mann commented on Murrieta'sOrdinance. He noted that they built graffiti abatement into land use permitting. He noted that the Murrieta Ordinance and Corona Ordinance mirrored each other. Legal Counsel Mann commented on Temecula's Ordinance. He noted that they had an older ordinance. He indicated that there was nothing unique in their ordinance to review. Legal Counsel Mann commented on San Jose's Ordinance. He noted that San Jose was a large city. He noted that they have an aggressive approach to juveniles being held responsible. He noted that their ordinance was also very aggressive to cost collection. Community Services Director Sapp commented that the City had a very good ordinance. He noted that the ordinance could be amended. He commented on recovery costs and penalties. He noted it was a benefit to have them do community service or to suspend their driver's license. Community Services Director Sapp noted that it was his policy, if the graffiti was on a common wall or in the right-of-way, to remove the graffiti within 24 hours. He noted that there was a graffiti hotline. He commented on Santa Rosa's 72-hour policy. He commented on the City's efforts to prevent graffiti. He noted that land use requirements were a good idea. Commissioner Arnold inquired how the City's Ordinance compared to other city ordinances. Legal Counsel Mann noted that the ordinances were geared toward the different levels of graffiti problems in the other cities. Page 4 - Public Safety Advisory Commission - July 19,2006 Equipment Operator Perez noted his past experience with working for a company that took care of graffiti. He noted that he did not feel graffiti was as bad of a problem in the City as compared to most cities he worked in. Community Services Director Sapp commented on the possibility of making the act of graffiti a felony. He suggested a budget increase as it related to graffiti removal. Information/Communications Manager Dennis commented on different types of graffiti. He also noted that a question was posed if all graffiti should be treated equal, especially if it could be classified as a hate crime. Sergeant Lujan indicated that the level of graffiti is set forth by different representations. Information/Communications Manager Dennis noted the elements of law relating to different types of graffiti. Sergeant Lujan commented that they preserve the criminal act in photographs. Chairman Hewison inquired if there were regular taggers. Sergeant Lujan commented that there were regular taggers and there was a way to identify them. Building & Safety Manager Chipman commented on the sales tax for aerosol cans and other materials used for graffiti. THE PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISORY COMMISSION WAS RECESSED AT 10:17 A.M. THE PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISORY COMMISSION WAS RECONVENED AT 10:27 A.M. ' PUBLIC COMMENT Richard Miller, Wildomar, commented on a system called Tag Back. He commented on the publicity that his system created. He noted that a Page 5 - Public Safety Advisory Commission - July 19,2006 sprinkler system would be activated when a tagger approached a wall. He noted that the cost for this system was inexpensive. 22. Vehicle Parking Ordinance staff report for review. Information/Communications Manager Dennis commented on the item. He noted that he distributed a second draft ordinance to the Commission due to typographical errors. Chairman Hewison inquired if the staff report reflected the fact that the PSAC discussed the possibility of permits. Information/Communications Manager Dennis noted that it was omitted from the staff report. Legal Counsel Mann noted that the Ordinance could not take effect until October 1 st or later. Chairman Hewison inquired about the definition of a commercial vehicle. He expressed his concerns with small commercial vehicles. Legal Counsel Mann noted that the existing Ordinance prohibited commercial vehicles at a gross weight of 6 thousand pounds. 23.Discussion ofPSAC Goals & Objectives (continued from PSAC meeting of 7/12). Vice Chairman Knight noted that he felt the Commission was headed in the right direction. Chairman Hewison commented that he would get together with Information/Communications Manager Dennis to draft a revised goals and objectives to present at the next meeting. 24.Discussion ofLEMC Chapter 2.46 and Ordinances 1116, 1137 and 1176; and City Council Policy 200-5A regarding reorganization of officers and PSAC duties. Page 6 - Public Safety Advisory Commission - July 19,2006 Commissioner Arnold noted that the Chairman and Vice Chairman were not addressed. Legal Counsel Mann noted that the nomination of the Planning Commission was more on the lines of an Ad Hoc basis. He noted that the draft policy would resolve issues. He indicated that the proposed policy would change to July instead of January. Chairman Hewison inquired if the appointment list needed to be changed. Commissioner Arnold commented that he would like to ensure that the dates match. Chairman Hewison clarified that this would be for both the PSAC and PC. Legal Counsel Mann confirmed. CITY STAFF COMMENTS No comments. COMMISSIONERS COMMENTS Commissioner Arnold commented on the following: No comments. Commissioner Sund commented on the following: 1) Noted that she felt the Study Session went well and that a lot got accomplished. Vice Chairman Knight commented on the following: No comments. Chairman Hewison commented on the following: 1) Thanked staff for their support. Page 7 - Public Safety Advisory Commission - July 19,2006 ADJOURNMENT THE PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISORY COMMISSION STUDY SESSION WAS ADJOURNED AT 11:20 A.M. ~2,~;~ " RON HEWISON, CHAIRMAN PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISORY COMMISSION Respectfully submitted, ~CJv)J;r;d. MICHELLE SOTO, DEPUTY CLERK OF THE BOARD Attest: ~ ' F=-~CLERK OF THE BOARD - MINUTES PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISORY COMMISSION STUDY SESSION CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE 183 NORTH MAIN STREET LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 9, 2006 **************************************************************** CALL TO ORDER Chairman Hewison called the Public Safety Advisory Commission Meeting to order at 6:00 p.m. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Commissioner Norkin. ROLL CALL PRESENT: COMMISSIONERS: ARNOLD, KNIGHT, NORKIN, SUND, HEWISON ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE Also present were: Information/Communications Manager Dennis, Sergeant Lujan, Lieutenant Fontneau and Clerk of the Board Ray. PUBLIC COMMENTS Chairman Hewison noted that Sergeant Lujan would no longer be covering the PSAC meetings. He thanked Sergeant Lujan for all that he had done and wished him the best of luck. ' Lieutenant Dave F ontneau introduced himself. He noted that he had recently transferred from Moreno Valley. Page 2 - Public Safety Advisory Commission- August 9, 2006 CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS MOVED BY ARNOLD, SECONDED BY KNIGHT AND CARRIED BY A VOTE OF 4-1, WITH NORKIN ABSTAINING, TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR AS PRESENTED. 1. The following minutes were approved: a) PSAC Meeting - June 14,2006. b) PSAC Meeting - July 12, 2006. c) PSAC Study Session - July 19,2006. Chairman Hewsion commented on Item 1 c. He noted that the minutes reflected that Commissioner Norkin was present instead of absent. He requested that the correction be made. BUSINESS ITEMS 21. Reorganization of Officers. Information/Communications Manager Dennis noted that the Commission deferred action on the reorganization pending the official adoption of a revised City Council Policy, 200-5A which was supposed to be on the City Council agenda for the meeting of August 8th. Mr. Dennis noted that the item would be placed on the City Council agenda for August 22nd. He noted that he felt the reorganization should be deferred. Commissioner Arnold commented on the PSAC efforts over the past year. He commented on the process of electing the Chairman and Vice Chairman. Chairman Hewison noted that the Commission could vote on the item. Page 3 - Public Safety Advisory Commission - August 9, 2006 - MOVED BY ARNOLD, SECONDED BY KNIGHT AND CARRIED BY A VOTE OF 2-2-1, WITH HEWISON AND SUND CASTING THE DISSENTING VOTES AND NORKIN ABSTAINING, TO NOT FOLLOW STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION AND CONDUCT THE REORGANIZATION OF OFFICERS. COMMISSIONER SUND MADE THE FOLLOWING SUBSTITUTE MOTION. MOVED BY SUND TO KEEP THE COMMISSION AS IS, WITH HEWISON AS THE CHAIRMAN AND KNIGHT AS THE VICE CHAIRMAN. THE SUBSTITUTE MOTION DIED DUE TO LACK OF A SECOND. MOVED BY KNIGHT, SECONDED BY ARNOLD AND CARRIED BY A UNANIMOUS VOTE TO NOMINATE HEWISON FOR THE CHAIRMAN. MOVED BY SUND, SECONDED BY NORKIN AND CARRIED BY A UNANIMOUS VOTE TO NOMINATE KNIGHT FOR THE VICE CHAIRMAN. , 22. Graffiti Ordinance Amendments (LEMC Section 9.52). Information/Communications Manager Dennis commented on the item and previous Commission discussions. He noted frequent graffiti problem spots. He noted a request from Pete Dawson which was that the City inform the County of the steps they plan to take in regard to the Graffiti Ordinance. Sergeant Lujan commented on the statistics for vandalism. He noted that there were 19 reports of graffiti within the first 6 months of 2006. Chairman Hewison inquired if graffiti was included on the process checklist. Information/Communications Manager Dennis noted that he would put the item on the checklist. Page 4 - Public Safety Advisory Commission - August 9, 2006 Chairman Hewison noted that the GIS map showed several sites that were normally hit within the City. ' Commissioner Sund inquired if parents were made responsible for minor offenders. Sergeant Lujan indicated that they make offenders that are minors file a juvenile petition. He noted that if the Judge decided that they are guilty, then restitution would be handed down. Commissioner Norkin noted that he had done some research in regard to what other cities had done to prevent graffiti. He noted that he found most cities have a zero tolerance policy for graffiti. He noted that a lot of cities had strict enforcement and kept parents responsible for minors. He further noted that some cities had set fees for minors who committed the offense. Chairman Hewison suggested increasing community awareness to let citizens know that there is a problem. He noted that some families could not afford high fees. Commissioner Norkin commented that $250 for the first offense was fair. Chairman Hewison commented on the current rewards. Commissioner Arnold commented that he was concerned about punishment. Chairman Hewison noted that the message should be more than monetary . Commissioner Sund suggested setting up stings to get minors to buy paint from various store locations. She noted that this might lead to the taggers. Vice Chairman Knight noted that the Commission needed to review a combination of reward and punishment. Page 5 - Public Safety Advisory Commission - August 9, 2006 Commissioner Arnold commented on tracking offenders within the City. Commissioner Norkin noted that he had done some research in regard to ways to approach prevention. He noted that by talking with Developers, the City could inform them of the areas they would like to develop and the issues, if any, the City was having in the area with graffiti. He noted that it could be conditioned as part of their project to use anti-graffiti paint or to use "see-through" fencing that is fashionable instead of block walls. Sergeant Lujan indicated that commercial buildings and block walls were common graffiti locations. Commissioner Arnold inquired if the Sheriff s department did an active job to ensure local retailers were locking up spray paint. Sergeant Lujan indicated that would be the City's Code Enforcement's responsibility. MOVED BY HEWISON, SECONDED BY ARNOLD AND CARRIED BY A UNANIMOUS VOTE TO REQUEST THAT THE CITY ATTORNEY PREPARE A DRAFT ORDINANCE THAT ADDRESSES 1) INCREASING ENFORCEMENT WITHIN THE CITY FOR THE POINT OF SALE, 2) INCREASING THE REWARD ELEMENT OF THE ORDINANCE AND 3) INCREASING THE PUNISHMENT; DIRECT STAFF TO OBTAIN SOME IDEAS FROM THE YOUTH COURT DEPUTY AS TO HOW MANY KIDS YOUTH COURT HAS HAD IN REGARD TO OFFENSES WITH GRAFFITI AND DIRECT STAFF TO SPEAK TO THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT REGARDING THE POSSIBILITY OF CHANGING DEVELOPER CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL TO INCLUDE THAT COMMON WALLS AND/OR UTILITIES BE FINISHED WITH AN ANTI-GRAFFITI OR COMMON COLOR MATERIAL. 23. Goals and Objectives. Information/Communications Manager Dennis commented on the item. He noted that suggestion items were in blue ink. Page 6 - Public Safety Advisory Commission - August 9, 2006 Chairman Hewison commented on the goals and objectives. He noted that he updated the matrix by deleting the items that had been completed and adding items that needed to be addressed. Chairman Hewison noted that Commissioner Norkin wanted the Commission to do some work on lifejackets in regard to the shoreline safety plan. Chairman Hewison requested that the Commissioners review the matrix and bring their comments to the next regularly scheduled meeting. Commissioner Arnold inquired about documenting the accomplishments of the Commission. Information/Communications Manager Dennis noted that staff completes reports which list the accomplishments of the Commission on an annual basis. MOVED BY ARNOLD, SECONDED BY KNIGHT AND CARRIED BY A UNANIMOUS VOTE TO APPROVE THE GOALS AND OBJECTIVES. SUBCOMMITTEE REPORTS None. CITY STAFF COMMENTS Information/Communications Manager Dennis commented on the following: 1) Noted the following upcoming events: August 17th - Noted that the Council would be holding a Feasibility Study for a new City Hall. August 20th - Ground breaking ceremony hosted by the LEUSD for the Earl Warren Elementary School. Page 7 - Public Safety Advisory Commission - August 9, 2006 2) Noted that invitations had been sent out for the Mayor's State of City Address at the Diamond Club on August 31 st at 6 p.m. Sergeant Lujan commented on the following: 1) Thanked the Commission for allowing him to participate over the past 11 months. He noted that the path the Commission was headed in was the right direction. 2) Commented on the recent ordinances that had passed due to the efforts of the Commission. COMMISSIONER COMMENTS Commissioner Sund commented on the following: 1) Commented on Cops for Kids. She noted that she attended the event. She expressed her concern that the PSAC was not invited to the event. She had requested that PSAC be invited to these kinds of functions in the future. 2) Noted that she and Chairman Hewison would be attending a Traffic and Public Safety meeting in Temecula. 3) Noted that Information/Communications Manager Dennis was doing a good job with the website. Vice Chairman Knight commented on the following: 1) Noted that he was happy to see Traffic and Safety as part of the goals and objectives. ' Commissioner Norkin commented on the following: 1) Noted that it was an honor to work with the PSAC. He noted that he looked forward to serving the City. 2) Noted that he was excited to introduce some new ideas and make some changes. Page 8 - Public Safety Advisory Commission - August 9, 2006 Chairman Hewison commented on the following: ' 1) Noted that it was his goal by the next meeting to have the draft Graffiti Ordinance. 2) Noted that he requested to see an update on the Shoreline Safety Plan. 3) Noted that the PSAC pamphlets still had not been distributed to the public. He inquired on the status. Information/Communications Manager Dennis noted the pamphlet was going to be consolidated with the City's quarterly newsletter "The Outlook". He noted that as a result of the branding, they were behind in getting "The Outlook" distributed. 4) Commented on a recent traffic survey. He requested that the Commissioners receive a copy of the traffic study. ADJOURNMENT THE PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISORY COMMISSION MEETING WAS ADJOURNED AT 7:15 P.M. u.~:~, RON HEWISON, CHAIRMAN PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISORY COMMISSION Respectfully submitted, J0ChLC sJ MICHELLE SOTO, DEPUTY CLERK OF THE ,BOARD Attest: FRED~LOFTHEBOARD MINUTES PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISORY COMMISSION MEETING CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE 183 NORTH MAIN STREET LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 11,2006 **************************************************************** CALL TO ORDER Chairman Hewison called the Public Safety Advisory Commission Meeting to order at 6:00 p.m. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Michelle Knight. ROLL CALL PRESENT: COMMISSIONERS: KNIGHT, NORKIN, SUND, HEWISON ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: ARNOLD Also present were: Information/Communications Manager Dennis, Lieutenant Fontneau, Sergeant Yates, Officer Kiner, Fire Chief Gallegos, Fire Chief Hendershaw and Clerk of the Board Ray. PUBLIC COMMENTS Peter Dawson commented on the lake edge clean up. He noted that while he was volunteering to pick up trash along the lake edge, he found dirty diapers. He noted that Councilmember Kelley, who had also volunteered, had promised Mr. Dawson that she would bring the matter to the attention of the PSAC. He inquired if Councilmember Kelley had done so. Chairman Hewison noted that he had heard about the matter. Page 2 - Public Safety Advisory Commission - October 11,2006 Mr. Dawson noted that Lake Perris had similar problems. He noted that Lake Perris had been occasionally shut down due to E-Coli contamination. He commented on the individuals that he believed were responsible for the problem. He suggested implementing an extreme fine to solve the problem. Mr. Dawson commented on emergency preparedness. He noted that he was a member of the US Coastguard Auxiliary and LEMSAR. He noted that both agencies had received paperwork from the City Council agenda and had indicated that they were both prepared to help and want to be put on notice when there are meetings that are appropriate. CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS MOVED BY SUND, SECONDED BY KNIGHT AND CARRIED BY A UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR AS PRESENTED. 1. The following minutes were approved: a. Wednesday, September 13,2006. BUSINESS ITEMS 21. Fire Department Presentation and Update (CDF). Fire Chief Gallegos gave some background about his experience. He noted that Fire Chief Jerry Hendershaw was hired 2 weeks ago and would be assisting him with the department. He introduced Fire Chief Hendershaw. Fire Chief Hendershaw gave some background about himself. He noted that he had been with the department for 24 years. Fire Chief Gallegos gave a brief presentation of his department. He noted how they operate with the cooperation of the California Department of Forestry. He noted the 16 cities they serve in Riverside County. He noted that they serve 1,545,000 residents in an area of 7,004 square miles. He commented on their Mission Statement. He noted that they were a full-risk department. Page 3 - Public Safety Advisory Commission - October 11,2006 Fire Chief Gallegos commented on their Master Plan Process. He commented on land-use categories. He noted Heavy Urban areas were normally a high density area where they would want to have fire stations fairly close. Fire Chief Gallegos commented on the types of incidents that they respond to. He commented on their fire protection goals. He commented on their land use/fire suppression goals. He provided the Commission with a copy of the map for the fire stations zoning for Lake Elsinore. Fire Chief Gallegos commented on truck company coverage. He noted that the stations with the closest coverage were in Menifee and Temecula. He noted that the City was very limited on coverage. Commissioner Norkin thanked the Fire Department for their services. He inquired on the difference between a truck and an engine. Fire Chief Gallegos indicated that an engine carried a 35-foot ground ladder. He commented that a truck is good for rescues for being able to get to the roof of tall buildings. He noted that the county was looking at purchasing a tiller truck. Commissioner Norkin inquired on the amount of personnel at each station. Fire Chief Gallegos commented on the staffing levels. He noted there were typically 11 staff members for the station off of Graham Avenue and typically 3 members for station no. 85, stations no. 95 and the future Rosetta station. Commissioner Norkin inquired on the definition of a flash over. Fire Chief Gallegos indicated that a flash .over is when everything in a room reaches its ignition temperature. Commissioner Sund inquired who she would need to contact at the station to teach children about fire safety. Page 4 - Public Safety Advisory Commission - October 11, 2006 Fire Chief Gallegos noted that local stations were very good for arranging tours. He noted she would need to contact the station that was responsible for the particular area and make an appointment. Commissioner Sund inquired about the types of emergencies that have to do with children. Fire Chief Gallegos noted that fire emergency was mostly related to children playing with fire. Vice Chairman Knight commented that response times were coming down. He noted that he was extremely happy with what he saw. He noted that the department was doing a good job. Chairman Hewison commented on the weekly report. He inquired if there was anyway to get Canyon Lake and the county to assist with surrounding stations. Fire Chief Gallegos noted that surveys had been done about how much a particular station services the county compared to the City. He noted that it all weighed out since some county stations responded to City related calls because they were closer. Chairman Hewison inquired if the motocross track was charged for the department's services. Fire Chief Gallegos noted that they do not charge for their services. Chairman Hewison thanked Fire Chief Gallegos for his presentation. MOVED BY KNIGHT, SECONDED BY NORKIN AND CARRIED BY A UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO RECEIVE AND FILE THE FIRE DEPARTMENT PRESENTATION AND UPDATE. 22. Emergency Preparedness Planning Update. Information/Communications Manager Dennis commented on the item and noted upcoming training scenarios. Page 5 - Public Safety Advisory Commission - October 11,2006 Chairman Hewison commented on coordinating with the school district. He commented that it was his understanding that there was not a clean communication between law enforcement and fire. Commissioner Sund inquired when the Emergency Preparedness Plan would be completed for distribution. Information/Communications Manager Dennis noted that it was an evolving process. He commented on publications that will be issued by the City as an information component. Vice Chairman Knight inquired if police and fire were coordinated at a county level for an emergency situation. Fire Chief Gallegos commented that they were. He noted that they practice various scenarios on a regular basis. Lieutenant F ontneau commented that the 2 departments work together in emergency events. He indicated that in a larger type incident, both agencies would be coordinating side by side in an ICS component. Commissioner Norkin inquired if the top disaster had been identified within the City. Fire Chief Gallegos indicated that they identify possible threats on an annual basis. Commission Sund inquired if there was list of citizens in the community that were bed ridden. Fire Chief Gallegos noted that they did have list of certain care facilities that had those types of challenges. He noted that to identify every individual within the City with those kinds of dynamics would be almost impossible. Chairman Hewison inquired if staff s plan was completed. Information/Communications Manager Dennis noted that staff s plan was not yet complete. Page 6 - Public Safety Advisory Commission - October 11,2006 Vice Chairman Knight commented that when he was a firefighter they had discussed a nuclear disaster. Commissioner Sund commented that her husband worked for a nuclear power plant. She complimented staff on the brochure. Commissioner Norkin inquired if there were designated evacuation routes. Lieutenant F ontneau noted that it depended on the event and the location. He noted that there were not any set parameters. MOVED BY KNIGHT, SECONDED BY NORKIN AND CARRIED BY A UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO RECEIVE AND FILE EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS PLANNING UPDATE. 23. Proposed Lake Safety Issues Study Session. Chairman Hewison commented on the item and noted that the suggestion from staff was to hold a study session on October 26, 2006 at 11 a.m. MOVED BY KNIGHT, SECONDED BY NORKIN AND CARRIED BY A UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO SCHEDULE A STUDY SESSION ON LAKE SAFETY FOR OCTOBER 26, 2006 AT 11 A.M. 24. Action Log. Information/Communications Manager Dennis commented on the item. He noted that he was not able to distribute the summary to the Commissioners until right before the meeting. MOVED BY KNIGHT, SECONDED BY NORKIN AND CARRIED BY A UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO REVIEW THE ITEM AND REPORT BACK AT THE NEXT MEETING. Page 7 - Public Safety Advisory Commission - October 11,2006 INFORMATIONAL ITEMS A. Oversized vehicle parking citation escalating fees per Council Resolution 2006-154 (adopted 9/26/06). Commissioner Sund noted her disappointment with Council's decision for a $30 fine for the first offense. Chairman Hewison recited a memo he had given to Information/Communications Manager Dennis. He noted that PSAC was not advised when the item was placed on Council's agenda. He commented that anything relating to the PSAC should be relayed to the Commission. Information/Communications Manager Dennis noted that Code Enforcement wanted to add a process for the fees which resulted in a resolution. Chairman Hewison noted that staff had plenty of time to review this before the October 1 st date. Chairman Hewison inquired if Lieutenant Fontneau received his notes on Tuscany and Cottonwood. Lieutenant Fontneau noted that he did not received Chairman Hewison's notes. Chairman Hewison noted that there were issues on City streets which impacted kid's safety. He noted that he looked at 2 schools and did a page of notes on each school. He noted that he would give Lieutenant Fontneau copies of his notes. Lieutenant F ontneau noted that any curb issues needed be addressed through the City and not the Police Department. SUBCOMMITTEE REPORTS None. Page 8 - Public Safety Advisory Commission - October 11, 2006 CITY STAFF COMMENTS Information/Communications Manager Dennis commented on the following: 1) Noted the following upcoming events: October Ith - Candidates Forum, Lakeside High School October 17th - Planning Commission Meeting October 19th - EDC Luncheon October 20th - 220d - Home Show, Diamond Stadium October 21 st - Family Safety Expo, Lakeside High School Lieutenant Fontneau commented on the following: 1) Noted that Sergeant Yates would not be able to attend the study session on October 26th. Sergeant Yates noted that he would be out of town on that day. He inquired if the study session could be rescheduled. Sergeant Yates noted that he could work with Information/Communications Manager on when would be a good time to reschedule. COMMISSIONER COMMENTS Vice Chairman Knight commented on the following: 1) Noted that it was good to see the firefighters in attendance of the meeting. Commissioner Sund commented on the following: 1) Noted that she got her CPR and First Aid Certificate. 2) Noted that she attended the Temecula Traffic and Safety Commission meeting. 3) Suggested moving the monthly PSAC meeting to every 3rd Wednesday of the month. Page 9 - Public Safety Advisory Commission - October 11, 2006 Chairman Hewison commented on the following: 1) Noted that he had suggested a joint City Council/PSAC study session to the Council. 2) He noted that the Commission needed to review new goals and objectives. 3) Requested the green "goals and objectives" sheet be included in the PSAC binders each month. 4) He noted that he would be meeting with the City's Traffic Engineer next week to go through the logic on how they arrive at new speed limits. 5) Suggested the Police Department could do a Neighborhood Watch presentation and Gang Team presentation in the coming months. 6) Suggested discussing fireworks at the next meeting. ADJOURNMENT THE PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISORY COMMISSION MEETING WAS ADJOURNED AT 7:30 P.M. "1 n 1\ ~..~\~~, RON HEWISON, CHAIRMAN PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISORY COMMISSION Respectfully submitted, L1L/clc Lie J!J-l MICHELLE SOTO, DEPUTY CLERK OF THE BOARD Page 10 - Public Safety Advisory Commission - October 11,2006 Attest: ~ DERI RAY, CLERK OF THE BOARD MINUTES PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISORY COMMISSION STUDY SESSION CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE 183 NORTH MAIN STREET LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 13,2006 **************************************************************** CALL TO ORDER Chairman Hewison called the Public Safety Advisory Commission Meeting to order at 6:00 p.m. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Commissioner Norkin. ROLL CALL PRESENT: COMMISSIONERS: KNIGHT, NORKIN, SUND, HEWISON ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: ARNOLD Also present were: Information/Communications Manager Dennis, Legal Counsel Mann, Community Development Director Preisendanz, Public Works Manager Payne, Planning Manager Weiner, Traffic Engineer Basubas, Lieutenant Fontneau and Clerk of the Board Ray. PUBLIC COMMENTS CJ Stewart, Lake Elsinore, requested that the PSAC put together a brief Ad Hoc Committee to address the fugitive off-road situations in the City. She noted that she would like for it to follow the "Tread Lightly Pfinciples" and ethics of responsible recreation. CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS Page 2 - Public Safety Advisory Commission - September 13, 2006 1. Minutes. a) PSAC Meeting - August 9,2006. Commissioner Norkin commented on page 5 of the minutes. He noted that the minutes reflected that he spoke to developers, when in fact he had researched what some other cities had done. He noted other cities actions were to talk to developers about ways to prevent graffiti. MOVED BY KNIGHT, SECONDED BY NORKIN AND CARRIED BY A UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO REFLECT COMMISSIONER NORKIN'S COMMENTS UNLESS THE REVIEW OF THE AUDIO REFLECTS THAT THE ORIGINAL STATEMENT IS CORRECT. BUSINESS ITEMS 21. Status Report on Implementation of the Lake Shoreline Safety Plan. Information/Communications Manager Dennis gave an overview of the item. He noted that Lake & Aquatic Resource Director Kilroy would be providing a report updating the PSAC on the status of the implementation objectives and the various stages of the project. Lake & Aquatic Resource Director Kilroy noted that aquatic safety expert Thomas Griffiths commented on t~e shoreline safety issues. He noted that Mr. Griffiths requested that an identification of shoreline zones be put together. Mr. Kilroy noted that he ordered 20 shoreline safety sign poles. He noted that installation of the sign poles was anticipated to be completed by the end of September. He noted that changes were made to the lake pass in regard to safety. Lake & Aquatic Resource Director Kilroy noted that swimming lessons were being offered by the City. He noted that staff had met with County staff to discuss shoreline safety on the County side. Commissioner Sund inquired how graffiti would be handled in regard to the sign poles. Page 3 - Public Safety Advisory Commission.- September 13,2006 Lake & Aquatic Resource Director Kilroy noted that most of the signs were covered in anti-graffiti coating. Commissioner Norkin inquired if people actually read the lake use pass. Lake & Aquatic Resource Director Kilroy noted that he did not have an actual number of how many people read it. Commissioner Norkin recommended revising the lake use pass to ensure that people read it. Lake & Aquatic Resources Director Kilroy noted that staff had done their part to bring the information to the people and it was their responsibility to read it. He noted that he was open to suggestions. Commissioner Norkin suggested a form that boaters would have to sIgn. Vice Chairman Knight commented that he was pleased with what he had seen so far. Chairman Hewison thanked Lake & Aquatic Resource Director Kilroy for the signs. He commented on Elm Grove beach. He suggested working with the RDA Committee to start improving the beach. Chairman Hewison suggested looking at grant funding. MOVED BY KNIGHT, SECONDED BY SUND AND CARRIED BY A UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO RECEIVE AND FILE STATUS REPORT ON IMPLEMENTATION OF THE LAKE SHORELINE SAFETY PLAN. 22. Draft Revisions to Graffiti Ordinance (L.E.M.C. 9.52) Information/Communications Manager Dennis commented on the item. He noted that the City Attorney had provided the Commission with the first draft of the ordinance. Page 4 - Public Safety Advisory Commission - September 13,2006 Legal Counsel Mann commented on the proposed name change of the ordinance. He noted some of the changes. He commented on common school supplies, such as pens. He commented on retailers and the sale aerosol cans. He inquired if the commission wanted additional signage in regard to restrictions. He noted Section "A" of the ordinance was in regard to additional regulation to make it easier to correct graffiti. He noted that the provision on land use entitlements involves including, as a condition of approval, certain graffiti prevention mechanisms. He commented on the reward section and penalty provision. Community Development Director Preisendanz commented that they normally condition projects for anti-graffiti paint. He noted that they could also condition more landscaping against block walls. He commented on issues with anti-graffiti paint. He noted that developers imposed split face walls. Mr. Preisendanz recommended that "City Manager" be replaced by "Community Development Director" for Section 9.52.085, Item No. 1, under Section "B". Chairman Hewison noted that the Mayor suggested involving the anti- gang task force. Chairman Hewison noted that he agreed with the word "accessibility" under the item "Display" in Section 9.52.030. Chairman Hewison commented on graffiti in regard to glass being etched. Chairman Hewison noted that a project should be conditioned with anti-graffiti paint on block walls or to landscape it with vines. Chairman Hewison commented on the need to inform the community that this was a serious issue. Commissioner Norkin inquired what the percentage of graffiti had to do with spray cans. Page 5 - Public Safety Advisory Commission - September 13,2006 Public Works Manager Payne noted that a lot of times, Sharpie markers were used to vandalize signs and other items. Commissioner Sund inquired if anyone had spoken to Lowes and Home Depot regarding their rules for selling to minors. Chairman Hewison noted that staff was to provide a list of graffiti hot spots. Information/Communications Manager Dennis noted that staff had prepared a list that was furnished in the last report of incident hits. Commissioner Norkin noted that there was no reference to parents being held liable and fines. He inquired what the punishment of the fine should be. He noted that the penalty ,needed to escalate with each offense. Vice Chairman Knight noted that he agreed with an award being in place. He noted that he agreed with Norkin on the penalty. Commissions Sund suggested getting parents involved and holding the parents accountable. MOVED BY KNIGHT, SECONDED BY NORKIN AND CARRIED BY A UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO FINALIZE THE DRAFT GRAFFITI ORDINANCE. 23. Final Goals and Objectives Update. Information/Communications Manager Dennis commented on the item. He noted that the matrix of Council approved goals included PSAC additions. He noted that Chairman Hewison was able to narrow down the key changes into 7 final goals. MOVED BY HEWISON, SECONDED BY KNIGHT AND CARRIED BY A UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT THAT THE REVISED GOALS BE PROVIDED TO COUNCIL TO LET THEM KNOW WHAT THE PSAC IS WORKING ON. Page 6 - Public Safety Advisory Commission - September 13,2006 24. Emergency Operation Plan. Information/Communications Manager Dennis commented on the item. He noted that a draft Emergency Operation Plan was distributed to the PSAC for review. He noted that the City Council had approved an update to the plan. Chairman Hewison inquired if the plan had already been sent to the state. Public Works Manager Payne indicated that the plan went to the state a week ago. He noted that he was told that it would be 60 days before the plan was returned. Public Works Manager Payne gave an overview of the plan. Chairman Hewison suggested that the Commissioners review the plan and share their thoughts and ideas at the next meeting. MOVED BY NORKIN, SECONDED BY SU~ AND CARRIED BY A UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO REVIEW THE PLAN AND SHARE THEIR COMMENTS AT THE NEXT REGULARLY SCHEDULED PSAC MEETING. SUBCOMMITTEE REPORTS None. CITY STAFF COMMENTS Information/Communications Manager Dennis commented on the following: 1) Noted that the Parking Ordinance brochure was being distributed throughout neighborhoods by Code Enforcement. 2) Commented on a memo he had received from Traffic Engineer Basubas on speed change. 3) Proposed distributing a Safety Brochure via "The Outlook" newsletter in January. Page 7 - Public Safety Advisory Commission.- September 13, 2006 4) Noted the following upcoming events: September 21 st - EDC Luncheon September 22nd - Cops for Kids GolfToumament Lieutenant Fontneau commented on the following: . 1) Noted that a replacement for Sergeant Lujan had been selected. He noted that Sergeant Mike Yates would be attending future meetings. COMMISSIONER COMMENTS Commissioner Norkin commented on the following: 1) Noted that he wanted to start thinking about next year's lake safety. He noted that there were some items that he thought could be fixed regarding the lake. He noted that he would like to see that item put on the agenda in the coming months. 2) Noted that he would like to see the Graffiti Ordinance as a "zero-tolerance policy" from the City. Commissioner Sund commented on the following: 1) Commented on the involvement of the Neighborhood Watch committee in her neighborhood. She suggested getting the City to fund neighborhood watch signs for neighborhoods. 2) Suggested that Chairman Hewison meet with the new superintendent for the school district to keep the lines of communication open. Vice Chairman Knight commented on the following: 1) Thanked staff for the speed limit changes. 2) Noted that he was especially pleased with the sign poles for the lake. Page 8 - Public Safety Advisory Commission - September 13, 2006 Chairman Hewison commented on the following: 1) Thanked Traffic Engineer Basubas for the speed survey memo. He noted that he would like to set up a meeting to discuss'speed limits further. 2) Suggested holding a study session regarding lake safety. Lieutenant F ontneau noted that there was additional Law Enforcement staff added to the lake on holiday weekends. 3) Commented on the budget. He commented on PSAC's involvement in the mid-year budget review. He requested that PSAC be included in the review. 4) Noted that the Fire Chief would be in attendance for the October meeting. 5) Noted that he had met with the new superintendent for the school district. 6) Commented on CPR course being offered at the Community Center. 7) Commented on October's PSAC agenda. ADJOURNMENT THE PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISORY COMMISSION MEETING WAS ADJOURNED AT 7:25 P.M. "\ 1k : C' ' , ~'-~' ,-.Dl~ RON HEWISON, CHAIRMAN PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISORY COMMISSION Respectfully submitted, r / ~ltJctLCt0 5do MICHELLE SOTO, DEPUTY CLERK OF THE ,BOARD Page 9 - Public Safety Advisory Commission - September 13,2006 Attest: FB Y, CLERK OF THE BOARD MINUTES PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISORY COMMISSION MEETING CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE 183 NORTH MAIN STREET LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA WEDNESDAY, NOVEMBER 8, 2006 **************************************************************** CALL TO ORDER Chairman Hewison called the Public Safety Advisory Commission Meeting to order at 6:00 p.m. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Commissioner Knight. ROLL CALL PRESENT: COMMISSIONERS: KNIGHT, NORKIN, SUND, HEWISON ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE Also present were: Information/Communications Manager Dennis, Legal Counsel Mann, Administrative Services Director Pressey, Code Enforcement Supervisor Romero, Sergeant Yates and Clerk of the Board Ray. PUBLIC COMMENTS Chairman Hewison noted that William Arnold informed him of his immediate wish to resign from the Commission on November 2nd. He wished Mr. Arnold well and thanked him for his service. Legal Counsel Mann explained the application and appointing process. Page 2 - Public Safety Advisory Commission - November 8, 2006 Information/Communications Manager Dennis commented that the appointment may be in January. He noted that there was a fall back date if the subcommittee was not able to complete the recruitment process. CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS Chairman Hewison noted that he would like the City Council to receive a copy of the Commission's minutes. MOVED BY NORKIN, SECONDED BY KNIGHT AND CARRIED BY A UNANIMOUS VOTE TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR AS PRESENTED. 1. The following minutes were approved: a. Wednesday, October 11,2006. BUSINESS ITEMS 21. Mid-Year Budget Process (presenter: Matt Pressey). Administrative Services Director Pressey gave an overview of the budget process. He noted that Council adopts a budget each June. He indicated that there are two study sessions, one in May and one in April. He noted what each study session focused on. He noted that a mid-year budget review takes place in January. Administrative Services Director Pressey suggested that the Commission, prior to the mid-year budget review, come up with a recommendation in writing that would be submitted to the City Manager. He noted that after the recommendation is submitted to the City Manager, the appropriate staff and departments would review and consider the recommendation and then report on it at the study sessions prior to the adoption of the mid-year budget review. Commissioner Norkin commented that he would like to propose to the City Council getting security cameras or a device for the graffiti issue. He clarified the process that the Commission needed to follow in order to get an item funded. Page 3 - Public Safety Advisory Commission - November 8, 2006 Administrative Services Director Pressey commented that all the research that the Commission did would be submitted to the City Manager. He noted that the City Manager would then bring that up at the study session or mid-year budget review. He noted that at that time, staff would acknowledge that they received a written recommendation from the Commission. He noted that staff would do their added analysis and determine the dollar amount. He indicated that Council would then consider funding the item at that time. Chairman Hewison commented that the Commission needed to clarify with the City Council on their role in the budget process. 22. Graffiti Ordinance L.E.M.C. 9.52 Second Draft Revisions. Information/Communications Manager Dennis commented on the item. He noted that the item was the 2nd draft of the graffiti ordinance. He noted that Code Enforcement and the Police Department had reviewed and added to the ordinance. Legal Counsel Mann noted that he had presented a chart of changes to the Commission. He commented on the changes and gave an explanation for each of them. He commented on gang related graffiti. He noted that the reward was changed to $1,000 per incident. He further noted that a provision had been added for community education. Commissioner Norkin noted that he was disappointed that a lot of his thoughts were not put into the ordinance. He noted that graffiti was a problem in the City. He noted that there was no set penalty for vendors selling spray cans to minors. He noted that the State Law had strong verbiage. Commissioner Sund commented on graffiti problems at schools and restaurants. Vice Chairman Knight noted that the draft was a lot better than what the City had before. Page 4 - Public Safety Advisory Commission - November 8, 2006 Chairman Hewison noted that he agreed with the proposal of logging who buys 5 or more cans of spray paint. He commented on penalties for vendors who are caught selling to minors. Information/Communications Manager Dennis commented on Section 050 "A" on page 3 of7. He noted that the grammar allowed for the interpretation to be misread. He suggested removing the last clause. Sergeant Yates commented on the timeframe for graffiti removal. Code Enforcement Supervisor Romero commented on the issue of getting the notice out. Commissioner Norkin inquired if there was any private property owners that did not want their building cleaned. Code Enforcement Supervisor Romero explained the process of nUisance. Legal Counsel Mann noted that he was not aware of any City issuing a felony for graffiti. Commissioner Norkin commented that he had found it in the San Francisco City Code under a Penal Code 594. Commissioner Norkin inquired if there were special penalties for certain incidents. Commissioner Sund commented on animals being victims of graffiti. Chairman Hewison commented on additional punishment for vendors selling cans of spray paint to minors. Chairman Hewison commented on Section 060 "B". Chairman Hewison and the Commission agreed that it should be 3 days. Chairman Hewison gave an overview of what was to be rewritten. The Commission agreed on a $1,000 reward. Page 5 - Public Safety Advisory Commission - November 8, 2006 MOVED BY KNIGHT, SECONDED BY NORKIN AND CARRIED BY A UNANIMOUS VOTE TO RECEIVE THE PROPOSED REVISIONS AND INCLUDE THE RECOMMENDED REVISIONS. 23. Preparation of Joint City Council/PSAC Study Session on November 9,2006 to present PSAC Goals and Objectives. Information/Communications Manager Dennis commented on the item. He noted that the Commission would need to concur with City Council in regard to setting a Joint Meeting. MOVED BY NORKIN, SECONDED BY KNIGHT AND CARRIED BY A UNANIMOUS VOTE TO CONCUR WITH CITY COUNCIL ACTION TO SCHEDULE A JOINT STUDY SESSION ON THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 9, 2006 AT 4:30 P.M. AT THE CULTURAL CENTER. 24. Schedule Joint PSAC/Planning Commission Study Session on December 13,2006. Information/Communications Manager Dennis commented on the item. He noted that staff had proposed the Joint Study Session to tie issues with the General Plan Update to the Lakeshore Drive Overlay District. MOVED BY SUND, SECONDED BY NORKIN AND CARRIED BY A UNANIMOUS VOTE TO SCHEDULE A JOINT PSAC/PLANNING COMMISSION STUDY SESSION ON WEDNESDAY, DECEMBER 13,2006 AT 3:00 P.M. IN THE CULTURAL CENTER TO DISCUSS THE LAKE SHORE DRIVE OVERLAY DISTRICT AND GENERAL PLAN UPDATE. 25. Regular PSAC meeting cancellation: December 13,2006. MOVED BY KNIGHT, SECONDED BY SUND AND CARRIED BY A VOTE OF 3-1, WITH NORKIN CASTING THE DISSENTING VOTE, TO CANCEL THE DECEMBER 13, 2006 MEETING. 26. Action Log. Page 6 - Public Safety Advisory Commission - November 8, 2006 MOVED BY SUND, SECONDED BY KNIGHT AND CARRIED BY A UNANIMOUS VOTE TO RECEIVE AND FILE THE ACTION LOG. INFORMATIONAL ITEMS A. Park Smart Program activity summary for October '06. No comments. SUBCOMMITTEE REPORTS None. CITY STAFF COMMENTS Information/Communications Manager Dennis commented on the following: 1) Noted the following upcoming events: November 10th - City offices closed for the Veteran's Day Holiday November 10th - Veteran's Day Salute Concert at 7 p.m. at the Cultural Center November 11 th -lth - GFI Grand Prix November 16th - Boys & Girls Club Dedication Sergeant Yates commented on the following: 1) Commented that police staff had been tripled for the GFI Grand Prix and there were a.m. and p.m. shifts. COMMISSIONER COMMENTS Commissioner Sund commented on the following: 1) Noted that she had met with a Code Enforcement Officer and was provided a updated Notice of Violation. She commented on motor-homes in the Reflection housing tract. Page 7 - Public Safety Advisory Commission - November 8, 2006 Vice Chairman Knight commented on the following: 1) Noted that he was happy to see the graffiti ordinance moving forward. Chairman Hewison commented on the following: 1) Commented on safety with the GFI event. ADJOURNMENT THE PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISORY COMMISSION MEETING WAS ADJOURNED AT 7:20 P.M. ~ \-\JW)~~ RON HEWISON, CHAIRMAN PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISORY COMMISSION Respectfully submitted, \~U~[G ~ MICHELLE SOTO, DEPUTY CLERK OF THE BOARD ( r --~ .~ . l- FREDERICK~~~~~' OF~ MINUTES PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISORY COMMISSION STUDY SESSION CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE 183 NORTH MAIN STREET LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 9, 2006 **************************************************************** CALL TO ORDER Chairman Hewison called the Public Safety Advisory Commission study session to order at 2:35 p.m. ROLL CALL PRESENT: COMMISSIONERS: KNIGHT, NORKIN, SUND, HEWISON ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE Also present were: Information/Communications Manager Dennis, Lake & Aquatic Resource Director Kilroy, Sergeant Yates and Clerk of the Board Ray. DISCUSSION ITEMS Lake Safety 1. Lake Shoreline Safety Plan Update. Lake & Aquatic Resource Director Kilroy gave a status report on the shoreline safety plan. He noted that 10 of the zone signs were placed on City shoreline property. He commented on shoreline safety signage. He commented on Public Safety Information which included a revised lake use regulation brochure to highlight the "big 5" safety messages and shoreline zone schematics in both English and Spanish. Page 2 - Public Safety Advisory Commission - November 9, 2006 Lake & Aquatic Resource Director Kilroy noted that he revised the daily lake use pass. He commented that Lake Department staff was trained in first aid, CPR, boating skills and seamanship by the U.S. Coast Guard Auxiliary. He noted his staff was trained to do a daily and weekly "inspect and correct" . Lake & Aquatic Resource Director Kilroy noted that Phase 2 would include channeling visitors to controlled access points. He suggested evaluating and developing a strategy to mitigate potential hazards of storm water channels. He suggested also developing water quality signage. He suggested reviewing and revising Lake Ordinances and considering a part-time beach patrol coordinator. He noted that he would like to continue to improve public information. Vice Chairman Knight inquired if the lake condition warning could be done with flags. Lake & Aquatic Resource Director Kilroy noted that he would give it some consideration. Commissioner Norkin noted that the signage idea proposed by Vice Chairman Knight was a good idea. Lake & Aquatic Resource Director Kilroy noted that signs were placed when bacteria levels were high. Chairman Hewison suggested visiting HOA's for community outreach. II. Law Enforcement on Lake. Lake & Aquatic Resource Director Kilroy commented on Lake Elsinore's Master Plan. He noted the daily maximum boating capacity was 1,200 boaters. He noted that the lake use figures in regard to actual daily maximum boats was 700. He noted that staff was projecting to sale over 35,000 lake use passes for 2006. Sergeant Yates commented on law enforcement on the lake. He provided the Commission with a table for Annual Boating Statistics. Page 3 - Public Safety Advisory Commission - November 9, 2006 Sergeant Yates commented on the different type of citations issued on the lake and noted the dollar amount varied with each citation. Commissioner Sund inquired if the Commission could see some citations. Sergeant Yates indicated that the Commission could review some citations. Chairman Hewison commented on the amount of hours a deputy works. Commissioner Norkin inquired how many deputies are on the lake on a holiday weekend. Sergeant Yates indicated that it varied depending upon what he felt was needed. Commissioner Norkin commented on the safety issues with deputies on one sheriff boat and 2 sea-doos. He commented that more deputies were needed on the lake during holiday weekends. Lake & Aquatic Resource Director noted that there were normally 6 deputies on the lake during a holiday weekend. Commissioner Norkin commented on the number of boats sinking. He noted that the number had more than tripled since 2005. Sergeant Yates commented that staff was visiting those issues. Chairman Hewison inquired if the drownings were all boater error. Sergeant Yates confirmed. Commissioner Norkin inquired if the levee was considered a City beach and if drinking was allowed. Lake & Aquatic Resource Director Kilroy confirmed it was a City beach and drinking was not allowed on City beaches. Chairman Hewison commented on Bill's and to what point it is stressed in the Lake Safety brochure. Page 4 - Public Safety Advisory Commission - November 9, 2006 Chairman Hewison suggested issuing fliers with information on Bill's. Commissioner Sund commented on putting tables, chairs and signage on the levee. Lake & Aquatic Resource Director Kilroy commented that he had not considered doing such things on the levee since it was a dam. Commissioner Sund commented on people fishing in the inlet channel. Lake & Aquatic Resource Director Kilroy noted that fishing was not allowed in the inlet channel due to a concessions agreement. Commissioner Norkin commented on getting a trained individual to assist boaters to ensure that individuals have the proper equipment in their boats. III. Safety at public/private launch facilities. Lake & Aquatic Resource Director Kilroy commented on preventative maintenance. He commented on minimum design standards for private boat launch facilities. He noted some private facilities that do not have ramps. Chairman Hewison commented on the concessions agreement. Lake & Aquatic Resource Director Kilroy commented on Commissioner Norkin's suggestion on having boaters sign a form before entering the lake. He provided the Commission with a sample form. Commissioner Norkin commented that the Clerk had mentioned that it was possible to retain the form in some type of file. IV. Standards for Launching. No comments. V. Boater Safety Education/Training. Lake & Aquatic Resource Director Kilroy commented that the City offered classes. He noted that there were Coast Guard Auxiliary classes, first aid Page 5 - Public Safety Advisory Commission - November 9, 2006 and CPR training/certification. He commented on courtesy boat inspections by the Coast Guard Auxiliary. Vice Chairman Knight inquired about the fee for CPR and first aid. Lake & Aquatic Resource Director Kilroy indicated that it was $45 for both. CITY STAFF COMMENTS No comments. COMMISSIONER COMMENTS Commissioner Norkin commented on the following: 1) Thanked Lake & Aquatic Resource Director Kilroy and Sergeant Yates for their time. Commissioner Sund commented on the following: 1) Thanked Lake & Aquatic Resource Director Kilroy and Sergeant Yates for their time. Vice Chairman Knight commented on the following: 1) Thanked Lake & Aquatic Resource Director Kilroy and Sergeant Yates for their time. 2) Commented on BUI's on the lake. Chairman Hewison commented on the following: 1) Requested that the Commission receive a copy of the power point presentation. 2) Commented on the number of BUI's on the lake. ADJOURNMENT Page 6 - Public Safety Advisory Commission - November 9, 2006 THE PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISORY COMMISSION STUDY SESSION WAS ADJOURNED AT 3:45 P.M. ~ ~;S0-.. RON HEWISON, CHAIRMAN PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISORY COMMISSION Respectfully submitted, /1/ , u0~U ~ MICHELLE SOTO, DEPUty CLERK OF THE BOARD TC~~~ ERICK RAY, CMC, CLERK OF THE BOARD MINUTES JOINT CITY COUNCILIPUBLIC SAFETY ADVISORY COMMISSION STUDY SESSION CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE 183 NORTH MAIN STREET LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 9,2006 ****************************************************************** CALL TO ORDER Mayor Magee called the Joint Study Session to order at 4:37 p.m. ROLL CALL CITY COUNCIL PRESENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: BUCKLEY, HICKMAN, KELLEY, SCHIFFNER, MAGEE ABSENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: NONE PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISORY COMMISSION PRESENT: COMMISSIONERS: KNIGHT, NORKIN, SUND, HEWISON ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE Also present were: City Manager Brady, City Attorney Leibold, Lake & Aquatic Resource Director Kilroy, Community Services Director Sapp, Information/Communications Manager Dennis, RDA Analyst McCarty- Snead, Chief of Police Fetherolf and City Clerk Ray. PUBLIC COMMENTS -3 MINUTES None. Page 2 - Joint Study Session - November 9, 2006 DISCUSSION ITEM A. Public Safety Advisory Commission Goals and Objectives. City Manager Brady gave an overview of the item. He noted that the Study Session was requested by the Commission to discuss their goals and objectives. Chairman Hewison commented that the last time PSAC had met with Council was in August 2005. He noted that during that Study Session they reviewed the goals and objectives that were agreed. He noted that the Commission has narrowed the goals and objectives down to 7 key issues. He noted that the Commission was making fairly good progress. He noted that they needed clarification and direction on some of their key issues. Chairman Hewison noted that there was a need for the PSAC to be involved with the budget process. He commented on the PSAC meeting held on November 8, 2006. Commission Norkin commented that his agenda packet for PSAC meetings has been either late, incomplete or missing during the 4 months he had been serving on the Commission. He noted his disappointment. He suggested getting more help from staff. Chairman Hewison commented on the Shoreline Safety Plan. He noted that PSAC had reviewed the initial implementation. He noted that they were making good progress on that item. Chairman Hewison noted that the PSAC had been somewhat involved with Disaster Preparedness. He commented on Disaster Relief Fliers to residents. Chairman Hewison commented on the completion of the Large Party and R V Parking Ordinance. Chairman Hewison noted that the Commission had done well with community outreach and education. He noted the Commission's involvement with traffic safety. City Manager Brady indicated that it took a lot of staff time and commented that Information/Communications Manager Dennis had done an outstanding Page 3 - Joint Study Session - November 9, 2006 job. He commented that additional staff was needed. He commented on a possible reorganization of staff. Mayor Magee noted the positive outcomes from the PSAC. Councilmember Hickman commented that the "gang graffiti" item should be combined with the "FBI". Chairman Hewison noted that the Commission was in the process of reviewing the Graffiti Ordinance. Councilmember Hickman commented on the "day laborers" relocating to different areas. He suggested incorporating that issue into the PSAC's objectives since it was a potential safety issue. Mayor Pro Tern Schiffner commented that he would like to hear comments from the Police Chief on the police budget and traffic safety being investigated by the PSAC. Chief of Police Fetherolf suggested that the PSAC attend the Budget Study Session. Mayor Magee suggested providing the PSAC with the budget packet prior to the Study Sessions to help them be better prepared. Mayor Pro Tern Schiffner suggested that the PSAC's review of the budget should consist of trying to help situations rather than getting involved on how things are enforced. Commissioner Norkin noted that they had a hard working Commission and they need to have support from the City and staff. Mayor Pro Tern Schiffner noted that he was not concerned with the PSAC's progress; he noted that his concerns were in regard to "overloading" the Commission. Commissioner Sund noted the other committees she's involved with. She noted that Information/Communications Manager Dennis was very helpful. She noted it was very easy to work with Information/Communications Manager Dennis and City Attorney Mann. She noted that she would like to Page 4 - Joint Study Session - November 9, 2006 work more with the Sheriff s Department as it related to schools and Neighborhood Watch. Councilmember Kelley thanked the Commission for their time and their hard work. She commented on the items involving the Commission that she was the most interested in. She noted that they were doing a great job. She commented on the Commission's involvement with the budget. She noted that the Commission was never intended to be an oversight on Police Budget Issues. Chairman Hewison indicated that they were seeking input at a policy level. He noted that the last time the PSAC met with Council, the Mayor had suggested that the PSAC get involved in the budget process. Councilmember Kelley noted that she welcomed the PSAC into the budget review and budgetary process. She commented on how the Police Department operated was off limits. Councilmember Buckley commented that as a potential goal for the coming year, it would be a good idea for the PSAC to look at investigating an ordinance to prevent overcrowding of individual homes under the Public Health & Safety Code. Councilmember Buckley commented on the matter of budgetary issues. He noted that the Council did not review the "internal Police budget". He noted the importance that the PSAC review the budget information and make recommendations to Council during the budgetary process. Councilmember Buckley inquired who added the Calabasas concept to the list. Chairman Hewison noted that Calabasas was mentioned when Bill Arnold was on the Commission. He noted that Mr. Arnold suggested that one of the ordinances he would like the Commission to be involved in were in regard to second-hand smoke. He noted that Calabasas was an example. Chairman Hewison commented on Citizen's Patrol. He noted that the Commission had received presentations from out of town Citizen's Patrol. He noted that the amount of work and number of volunteers involved would be about 100+ individuals. He noted that the Commission felt that they Page 5 - Joint Study Session - November 9, 2006 weren't ready to go for a Citizen's Action Patrol. Councilmember Buckley inquired if the PSAC has looked at concepts from other Cities in regard to a Graffiti Ordinance and incorporating provisions from the Building Code to help prevent graffiti. Chairman Hewison noted that the Land-Use Entitlement was a complete section within the Ordinance. Councilmember Buckley inquired about the sign poles around the lake. Chairman Hewison commented that the PSAC held a Study Session earlier in the day in regard to lake safety. He noted that they were shown a power- point presentation. He noted that the Commission was interested in showing the presentation to the public. Commissioner Knight commented on traffic safety. He noted that there were a lot of residents who were concerned with that issue. Mayor Magee commented on the leadership of Chairman Hewison. He suggested that the PSAC receive the same documents, in regard to the budget, that Council receives before a Study Session. He suggested that the Commission review the information and come back to Council in another Study Session to become involved in the budgetary process. Mayor Magee commended Information/Communications Manager Dennis for his work performance and noted that he was an asset to the PSAC. Mayor Magee suggested that the Office Specialist in the City Clerk's office could assist with the administrative side ofPSAC. City Clerk Ray indicated that his office could be of assistance. Mayor Magee commented on the Shoreline Safety Plan. He noted that staff would be coming back to the Commission with Lakeshore enforcement Issues. Mayor Magee noted that the complaint form needed to be online through the City's website. He noted that he received 3 to 5 Code Enforcement Complaints a day via e-mail. He noted that he was happy to deal with them, Page 6 - Joint Study Session - November 9, 2006 but due to policy he has to turn them in directly to the City Manager. Chairman Hewison noted that he has seen Complaint Forms come through the PSAC' s webpage as Informational Items. Information/Communications Manager Dennis noted that there was not a specific Complaint Form to capture Code Enforcement. He noted that the PSAC webpage had a Communication Form. He noted that whenever the Communication Form is used, the Commission gets various complaints. Mayor Magee inquired if a link could be added to the City's website that was specifically for Code Enforcement. Commissioner Sund noted that the City's web site was not user friendly. Information/Communications Manager Dennis noted that the answer had to do with the long-awaited transformation of the City's website. He noted that once he was able to devote more time to the City Manager's office, he would be able to do it. Mayor Magee noted that with the leadership and the goals that the PSAC had accomplished, he sees the value of the organization and supports it. He commented on the City Manager bringing back recommendations at mid- year to provide some sort of staff support. He noted that he wanted to find a way to make that happen. Mayor Pro Tern Schiffner commented that backup support seemed to be an issue with the Commission. He noted there needed to be a balance between staff support and the things that the Commission is asked to do. City Manager Brady noted that staff was doing a great job and commended them for their efforts. He noted that the City Attorney's office was also doing a great job. He noted that in regard to the budget, the information provided to the Council for the mid-year and budget process would also be provided to the PSAC. He suggested providing the information to the Planning Commission also. Page 7 - Joint Study Session - November 9, 2006 The Joint City Council/Public Safety AdViSOry. C()U1~ission Study Session was adjourned at 5:19 p.m. ~}> /,/ 'j2//~~ / / f // /~~ ROBERT 1. MA Et~{ ''--.. CITY OF LAKE ELSINO~R ~ ~,~~~. RON HEWISON, CHAIRMAN PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISORY COMMISSION RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED: l_~1 CJQ- Ui Jdo MICHELLE SOTO, DEPUTY CITY CLERK ATTEST: (~ r,'." r, 'I ~ ,,",- . " . ..",' ..)~ \ ........ '. ~~01.-=F~~ '., "',.- ," V \6)2- FREDERICK RAY, CITY CLERK CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE