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REPORT TO REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
TO: HONORABLE CHAIRMAN
AND MEMBERS OF THE REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
FROM: ROBERT A. BRADY
EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR
DATE: JUNE 23, 2009
SUBJECT: APPROVAL OF MINUTES
Discussion
The following Redevelopment Agency SPECIAL Joint Study Session meeting
minutes for the Lake Elsinore Downtown Master Plan are submitted for approval:
a) Redevelopment Agency / City Council / Planning Commission /
Public Safety Advisory Commission SPECIAL Joint Study Session
Meeting Minutes from May 6th, 2009.
Recommendation
Approve the Minutes as submitted.
Prepared by: Debora Thomsen
Agency Secretary
Approved by: Robert A. Brady
Executive Director
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CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
JOINT CITY COUNCIL / REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
PLANNING COMMISSION / PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISORY COMMISSION
STUDY SESSION MEETING MINUTES
May 6th, 2009
CALL TO ORDER - 5:00 PM
Redevelopment Agency Chairman Buckley called joint study session of the Lake
Elsinore City Council, Redevelopment Agency, Planning Commission, and Public Safety
Advisory Commission to order at 5:00 p.m. on Wednesday, May 6m, 2009 in the Cultural
Center, located at 183 N. Main Street, Lake Elsinore, CA 92530.
ROLL CALL:
City Manager Brady, City Attorney Leibold, and City Clerk Thomsen. Staff members'
present included Acting Administrative Services Director Riley, Acting Community
Development Director Weiner, Public Works Director / City. Engineer Seumalo, Director
of Lake and Aquatics Kilroy, Parks and Recreation Director Gonzales, Police Chief
Cleary, Fire Chief Hendershot, and Information / Communications Manager Dennis. In
addition the following Council., Agency, and Commissions were present:
Consultants present were Richard Flierl and Sarah Wilkinson from Cooper Carry and
Tom Merrell from Downtown Solutions.
REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
THOMAS BUCKLEY, RDA CHAIRMAN
AMY BHUTTA, RDA VICE CHAIRMAN
ROBERT MAGEE, RDA BOARDMEMBER
MELISSA MELENDEZ, RDA BOARDMEMBER
DARYL HICKMAN, RDA BOARDMEMBER
ROBERT A. BRADY. EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR
CITY COUNCIL
ROBERT MAGEE, MAYOR
MELISSA MELENDEZ, MAYOR PRO TEM
THOMAS BUCKLEY, COUNCILMEMBER
AMY BHUTTA, COUNCILMEMBER
DARYL HICKMAN, COUNCILMEMBER
ROBERT A. BRADY, CITY MANAGER
PLANNING COMMISSION
AXEL ZANELLI, CHAIRMAN
JIMMY FLORES, VICE CHAIRMAN
MICHAEL O'NEAL, COMMISSIONER
JOHN GONZALES, COMMISSIONER
PHIL MENDOZA, COMMISSIONER
TOM WEINER, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT
ACTING DIRECTOR
PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISORY
COMMISSION
MIKE NORKIN, CHAIRMAN
NICOLE DAILEY, COMMISSIONER
AL LYONS, COMMISSIONER
DENNIS "JAY" STEWART, COMMISSIONER
ROBERT BRADY, CITY MANAGER
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Lake Elsinore Joint City Council / Redevelopment Agency
Planning Commission / Public Safety Advisory Commission
Joint Study Session Meeting Minutes of May 6t", 2009
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Redevelopment Agency Chairman Buckley welcomed all City Council members,
Planning Commissioners, Public Safety Advisory Commissioners (PSAC), the City
Treasure and various Consultants. He stated Acting Community Development Director
Weiner would start the meeting off by providing a brief background of the Downtown
Master Plan. Next, Rick Fierl from Cooper Cary will describe a walk from Main Street to
the lake and then back to the center. Once the background and overview is completed,
there will be time for comments from the public, then receive comments from the Public!
Safety Advisory Commission, the Planning Commission, and comments the treasurer
may have, and then to the City Council / Redevelopment Agency.
Acting Community Development Director Weiner thanked the City Council, PSAC,
Planning Commission and the City Treasure for attending the meeting. He reminded'
everyone of the prior meetings held in December 2008 and January 2009, stating many
members of the community attended and gave valuable feedback regarding the
progress the City was making creating the Downtown Master Plan. He indicated!
although there is much work to be completed, the documents are 'beginning to take
shape. Mr. Weiner stated staff had made a commitment in May / June 2009 to bring the
final product to the Redevelopment Agency. He introduced Rick Flierl with Cooper
Cary, the consultant working on the project.
Rich Flied, stated he is thrilled to be part of this process. He spoke how Main Street is
the heart of Downtown although it does not go through to the lake. He mentioned dollar
investments would include a pier, street improvements such as street lights,;
landscaping and sidewalks. Mr. Flied stated the City should purchase land to create a
boardwalk at the lake and a build a new City Hall. He stated the purpose of the board
vision is to continue Main Street to the lake, to create a vibrant and sustainable
downtown, to create a civic identity which focuses around public buildings, improve
walk-ability and develop urban design framework guidelines. He recommended the
area be divided up and known as districts as follows:
1) Gateway District would be from Main Street to the 1-15 which is the gateway for
contemporary office development to occur
2) Garden District would give an opportunity for large multi-housing units that would
have the look of large homes
3) Cultural District is where the City would have an opportunity to put cultural uses
together with some housing to create a core of the heart to include a library,
several museums and the relationship to performing arts
4) Historic District which would be protect and maintain the historic character and
add infill development
5) Waterfront District where the street reaches the water curves off and goes over
to Lakeshore Drive.
Chairman Buckley discussed the maps, the layout of the proposed new City Hall,
housing and retail. He spoke of eliminating angled parking along Main Street to
become parallel parking with cafe-width sidewalks and spoke of funding.
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Lake Elsinore Joint City Council / Redevelopment Agency
Planning Commission / Public Safety Advisory Commission
Joint Study Session Meeting Minutes of May 6th, 2009
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PUBLIC COMMENTS
DISCUSSION ITEM No. 1:
Lake Elsinore Downtown Master Plan
Chairman Buckley opened the floor for questions from the public.
Dick Knapp, resident of Lake Elsinore asked if the entrance to the 1-15 would be
widened to be more than one lane. (Microphone was not used and therefore comments
were not recorded).
Rich Flied replied there would be a street cross section that would allow advancement
of the lanes.
Dick Knapp asked where the proposed City Hall would be located.
Rich Flied stated the new City Hall would anchor the existing city park. He stated the
parcel on the corner of Spring Street and Limited would be a private development
opportunity.
Dick Knapp suggested elevating the pad since it is under a flood plain.
Rich Flied stated the site would require engineering.
Dick Knapp questioned the location of the boardwalk and what would be on the pier.
Rich Flied replied stating the boardwalk would edge the lake along Lakeshore and
possibly provide a connection to the outlet channel. The pier could have an opportunity
for a hotel development, restaurants and entertainment.
Linda Richtgower spoke of her concerns with providing the audience. with copies of the
handouts including maps in order for them to follow along with the discussion.
Chairman Buckley informed everyone information (including the reports) is available on
the City's Website.
Linda Richtgower reminded everyone this is public meeting and requested a copy of the
Environmental Impact Report including the 4 attachments and would like to know if the
Historical Society needs to sign off on the PEA.
Chairman Buckley responded stating the EIR is part of the General Plan.
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Planning Commission / Public Safety Advisory Commission
Joint Study Session Meeting Minutes of May 6th, 2009
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Mr. Weiner stated a copy of the existing EIR is available at City Hall and the EIR is
under revision to incorporate changes including the Downtown. Once completed the
EIR will be in the review for 1'/z months and available to the public.
Ruth Atkins, resident of Lake Elsinore noted this is her fourth meeting regarding the
plans and overall the basic plan is good and moves the City forward and utilizes the
natural lake. She suggested the lake should be identified and promoted just as much
as the new downtown. She asked if there are plans to connect River-Walk to the lake.
Chairman Buckley stated the plans propose the outlet channel is part of the plan and
there would be a connection at the proposed amphitheater.
PSAC Chairman Norkin concurred with Ruth Atkins however; felt the proposed project
wouldn't happen too soon. He questioned the funds which would provide the proposed
improvements. He mentioned increased taxes to business owners and / or residents,
but requested a realistic answer.
Rich Flied replied stating the market study notes this is a thirty-year process. He stated
what is currently needed is to determine what would get this project moving today. He
noted there are public investments available for housing.
PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISORY COMMISSION /
PUBLIC COMMENTS
PSAC Commissioner Stewart responded noting this proposal is very exciting to the City.
He suggested thoroughly researching ways to mitigate traffic, specifically since the plan
calls for new business. He also requested information on how far the road
improvements would continue throughout the City to the existing residents around the
City.
Rich Flied responded stating the quality of the connectivity of the streets have been a
concern of the citizens who have attended prior meetings. He stated, the plan is
creating a place to live, work, shop, and in reality, what should occur is the traffic
volumes should become less, because more residents are living in the downtown area
of the City.
PSAC Commissioner Stewart asked what measures are being taken to mitigate the
conditions of the roads while the improvements take place.
Chairman Buckley replied stating the Districts do not phase by time but rather when
they become economically feasible.
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Planning Commission / Public Safety Advisory Commission
Joint Study Session Meeting Minutes of May 6th, 2009
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PSAC Commissioner Lyons stated the overall plan is great. He indicated his main
concern would be the pier and the water level particularly with a drought and the winds
off the lake. He also spoke of the parallel parking and stated the City would lose 50% of
existing downtown parking.
Rich Flierl replied stating the parking strategy is park once and then walk. He noted the
City would have to create pools of parking in adequate locations and numbers in order
to have ease of access.
PLANNING COMMISSION COMMENTS /
PUBLIC COMMENTS
PSAC Commissioner Dailey stated the plan is more of a concept and concurred with the
parking and traffic issues. She spoke of concerns regarding funding and suggested
private partnerships would be valuable.
Planning Commission Chairman Zanelli stated overall it is a great framework for the
future and likes the idea of sidewalk seating which adds to the Downtown area. He
spoke of the parallel parking along Main Street suggesting to eliminate the parking in
front of the sidewalk seating.
Planning Commission Vice-Chairman Flores spoke of how well Mr. Flierl presented the
plan to the Council and Commissions. He suggested the first step should be building
the City Hall. He spoke of public land uses such as the City Park which would include
the Civic Center. He requested information regarding the plan for purchasing the land
for the City's use and the funds.
Rich Flierl stated the land values recommended have to do with long term escalation as
property values rise through the construction.
Chairman Buckley concurred some of the land needs to be purchased. He stated one
of the ideas is to enter into joint projects with existing land owners.
Planning Commissioner Gonzales stated the Performing Arts should be at three high
schools and should develop into partnerships with the School Districts especially during
the summer time. He spoke of the empty gas station tanks under the City's parking lot
noting this job may bring surprises similar to the clean up of the Animal Shelter site.
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Planning Commission / Public Safety Advisory Commission
Joint Study Session Meeting Minutes of May 6'h, 2009
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Planning Commissioner O'Neal commended staff for their effort and time spent on the
preparation and execution of the Lake Elsinore Downtown Master Plan. He stated there
are many positive items with the market study; however he noted the document itself
has problems. He spoke of the realization of selling City property, high speed rail, and
questioned the location of the Pottery Street Bridge. He also addressed the opposition
of some to place the City Hall near the lake.
CITY TREASURES COMMENTS:
Treasure Baldwin spoke of the City's past history, noting there was only one high school
between the City of Corona and San Diego and only one grocery store in Corona. He
stated things change rapidly. He noted with the population in Southern California, there
is more pressure for change and development and indicated the plan is trying to create'
a dream and a vision and some certainty for development to encourage those investors
to come into the community. He noted this plan is timely. He complimented the leaders
and Agencies of the City. He stated this plan will assist to increase the population, it is
fast-paced. Although today's economy is slow, this may be the best timing to start to
implement the plan to work to the City's advantage. He noted although there are a lot of
"if's', the City as a whole would be strengthened.
Councilmember Hickman stated the City is in transition and the Council has a'
responsibility to the Citizens of the community. He requested a breakdown of funds per
year per cost, and a feasibility study noting where funds would generate. He stated
Main Street should be like the Gas Lamp District in San Diego where citizens can come
to enjoy themselves. He addressed crime in the downtown area and noted half of the
citizen's downtown do not have high school diplomas and are in poverty. Drugs and
prostitution all contribute to demise the demand for Downtown project. He noted the
City needs to work on these issues and then determine what will be the priority for
downtown.
Mayor Pro Tern Melendez noted the plan is great however she is concerned with the
amount of money it would take and questioned how businesses would come to Lake
Elsinore. She indicated a civic center would not bring revenue into the City and should
be built after everything else has been established.
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Planning Commission / Public Safety Advisory Commission
Joint Study Session Meeting Minutes of May 6th, 2009
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Mayor Magee spoke of all the information received and commended staff and Cooper
Carey for their hard work including Redevelopment Agency Chairman Buckley. He
stated he is more conservative and preferred to see market driven verses government
driven. He asked if the land use and the circulation changes would be addressed in the
current General Plan revision with Urban Crossroads.
Acting Community Development Director Weiner responded by stating "Yes."
Mayor Magee spoke of the Financing District and questioned if property owners would
be required to vote.
Chairman Buckley responded stating it would depend on how the development would'
be constructed.
Mayor Magee stated this plan shows ambition, and is visionary, yet cautioned we
should also be conservative. He addressed the land use changes, and questioned if
the financing district would be required to have a boat. He indicated his concern is the
commercial elements would be taxed too much to carry the institutional uses. He stated
the public / private partnership could exist with housing funds the City could put into
use. He spoke of the funding. for the business incubator and how it would come forward
as well as the affordable housing project known as Potter Court. The Mayor noted the
drive behind the plan should be the investment.
Councilmember Bhutta concurred with Mayor Magee. She indicated she has the same
concern with the funding and the importance on public outreach in keeping the residents
involved in this project. She spoke of promoting how the area would be utilized such as
walking paths and parking.
Chairman Buckley spoke of the parallel parking next to the restaurant and suggested'
sporadic parallel parking. He indicated the next step would be to take all of the
questions and comments that were discussed and work through the issues. He stated
the plan would then come back to the RDA board with details. Should the RDA approve
the plan it would become part of the General Plan.
Mayor Pro-Tem Melendez spoke of the Downtown Code and how it would supersede
the General Plan and requested clarification. She questioned how specific the
Downtown Zoning Codes would need to be to include the proposed civic center or
amphitheater.
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Planning Commission / Public Safety Advisory Commission
Joint Study Session Meeting Minutes of May 61h 2009
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CITY ATTORNEY:
City Attorney Leibold stated a Specific Plan takes the place of Zoning but it does not
supersede the General Plan.and must be consistent with the underlying General Plan,
the General Plan and the Specific Plan become equivalent.
CITY MANAGER:
City Manager Brady stated he appreciates Cooper Cary's staff and their work. He
spoke of his background as a planner and the need to have a plan, vision and direction;
He noted there is a lot of interest in the plan and the future stating this is a good starting
point.
CITY STAFF
Mr. Weiner stated staff was looking for flexibility in terms of permitted land uses. He
stated the zoning is broken down to Gateway Commercial, Commercial, and
Commercial Mixed Use, in the Downtown Recreation area.
CONSULTANTS:
Rich Flierl introduced Tom Merrell who is drafting the Form Base Code with the
company Downtown. Solutions
Tom Merrell stated a Form Base Code is an approach to explain to citizens how they,
would develop their land in more of a graphical or pictorial form. It has diagrams
showing what part of the parcel could be developed with information on how close it
could be built. He stated the Downtown Code is a combination of pure Form Base
which would be all diagrams and more traditional zoning as compatibility of uses after
the projects are built and includes the traditional ideas you would find in a zoning code.
It will define what the rules and the standards are for the land use, including
commercial, residential, and mixed use. The Code will physically show by parcel what
is allowed.
Rich Flierl thanked everyone for all of the comments; notes were taken and will be
addressed.
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Planning Commission / Public Safety Advisory Commission
Joint Study Session Meeting Minutes of May 6`h, 2009
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Chairman Buckley stated the purpose of the meeting was met, it was important to
understand what direction to take. He thanked everyone for attending and their input .
ADJOURNMENT
There being no further business to come before the multiple Agencies, Chairman
Buckley adjourned the meeting at 6:39 p.m.
Debora lhomsen
Debora Thomsen, CIVIC
City Clerk, City of Lake Elsinore, California
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