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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1995 Design Review Com Minutes I I MINUTES OF LAKE ELSINORE DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE JANUARY 4, 1995 THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE LAKE ELSINORE DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE SCHEDULED FOR JANUARY 4, 1995, WAS CALLED FOR LACK OF AGENDA ITEMS. Respectfully submitted, Linda Grindstaff Recording Secretary i i 1 i i I MINUTES REGULAR DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE WEDNESDAY, JANUARY 18, 1995 The Design Review Committee Meeting was called to order at 9:38 P.m. ROLL CALL PRESENT: COMMITTEE MEMBERS: NEFF, MATTHIES, WILSEY, BULLARD, AND METZE ABSENT: COMMITTEE MEMBERS: NONE Also present were: City Planner Leslie, Associate Planner De Gange and Engineering Manager O'Donnell. MINUTE ACTION Moved by Wilsey to approve Minutes of December 21, 1995. Chairman Metze stated that he had minor corrections for the Minutes of December 21, 1994 . Mr. Wilsey rescinded his motion. Chairman Metze requested the following corrections: Page 2, third paragraph, after the word guidelines add "also in a work shop we received specific direction from City Council" . Page 3, Commissioner/Committee Member Metze Comments #3, add "However, I have never met a staff person that I didn't like" . Commissioner Neff asked that on Page 3 , Commissioner/Committee Member Neff Comments #5, spelling of the name Art Lustberg be corrected. Moved by Metze, Seconded by Wilsey and carried by a vote of 5-0 to approve the Minutes of December 21, 1994, as corrected and to receive and file the Minutes of January 4, 1995. PUBLIC COMMENTS Deferred to end of meeting. DESIGN APPLICATIONS 1. Facade Refurbishment, Awnings and Rear Fencing - 126 North Main Street - Ms. Fabrics - Santos Guiterrez Associate Planner De Gange explained the applicant is propos- ing the following improvements: remove the wood awning and wood facing; install new glass and wood frame store front (windows and doors) ; add a decorative parapet to the top of the building resurface the entire brick facade with icicle white (off-white) stucco; install three awnings over the two upper story windows and the lower portion of the facade covering the front entry way, and; construct an eight-foot high combination wrought iron wall enclosing the rear portion of his lot for security purposes. Chairman Metze noted that the applicant was not present. Ms. Matthies commented on the color sample and inquired about its use, stating it will be pink once applied. Associate Planner De Gange stated the applicant will be painting the building and wall this color. Chairman Metze asked if this color is within the guidelines. Associate Planner De Gange responded in the affirmative. PAGE TWO - DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE MINUTES - JANUARY 18, 1995 Mr. Bullard inquired about signage. Associate Planner De Gange stated the applicant has not proposed signage at this time. A brief discussion ensued on the previous approval for signage at this location, and their now being null and void; whether the applicant had been advised that he can not install signage without approval. Bullard stated it was discussed at the last meeting that signage would be brought forth at the same time as any other alterations. Associate Planner De Gange stated he understood that signage was to be processed concurrently with the business license, and the applicant has not submitted his business license application; however, staff does suggest to the applicant(s) concurrent processing. Chairman Metze commented for the record that the chain link fencing in the back is being replaced with a block wall, and the previous approvals for this location are null and void. MOVED BY NEFF, SECONDED BY BULLARD, AND CARRIED BY A VOTE OF 5-0 TO APPROVE THE PROPOSED FACADE REFURBISHMENT, AWNINGS AND FENCING AT 126 NORTH MAIN STREET (MS. FABRICS AND ALTERATIONS) . BUSINESS LICENSE APPLICATIONS NONE PUBLIC COMMENTS There being no request to speak before the Commission or Design Review Committee the PUBLIC COMMENTS Section was closed. STAFF COMMENTS City Planner Leslie informed the Commission/Committee that the regular meeting scheduled for February 1, 1995, will be called due to lack of agenda items. Associate Planner De Gange informed the Commission/Committee that Sunridge Homes has set up a meeting with the Tuscany Hills Homeowners Association on February 1, 1995, to make a presentation on the homes they are proposing to build in Tuscany. The meeting should be at 7: 00 p.m. at the Tuscany Hills Recreation Center. Staff will be attending and some members of the Planning Commission may wish to attend. Chairman Metze requested that this be confirmed with a memorandum. COMMISSION/COMMITTEE COMMENTS Commissioner Committee Member Matthies Commented on the following: 1. Wished Mr. Bullard a Happy Birthday. 2 . Glad to see Mr. Neff is still here as his perspective is needed. 3 . Thanked staff. PAGE THREE - DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE MINUTES - JANUARY 18, 1995 COMMISSION COMMITTEE COMMENTS CONTINUED Commissioner/Committee Member Wilsey Asked staff if they had anything to report on the 75% rule verbiage for home sizes in the Single-Family Residential Districts. City Planner Leslie responded in the negative, stating that staff is in the process of putting together a report, and contacting other cities to see if they have used something like that in other locations. City Planner Leslie stated that as far as Tuscany Hills the City Attorney has said because of their approved specific plan and development agreement the City cannot affect any changes that would change anything regarding the minimum size of houses allowed without the consent of the signee (or their successor) to the development agreement. Commissioner/Committee Member Neff Commented on the following: 1. Attended the Tuscany Hills Homeowners Association meeting when Colrich Communities presented their project on January 4th. Thought they did a good job, presented all the issues and fielded questions adequately. Understands the residents are going to circulate a petition and submit it to the City to make an amendment to the minimum house size. So we all are aware of it, Homestead Land Development when they did the project originally they did in fact start with a 1,600 square foot house, which was the smallest model built and that was well received at the time. The people in the audience were concerned that this was too small and all the issues that came up with the Shannon project--that is selective plotting so you have the biggest of your 3 or 4 plans next to existing houses, minimizing the number of smaller houses so that you have an overall average downsizing that is relative minimal, believes 13% is what was proposed. The homeowners feel this is a threat and probably don't understand or comprehend what the legal issues are and so perhaps they try to galvanize themselves around that downsizing issue. Commissioner/Committee Member Metze Commented on the following: 1. In regards to Zone Change 94-2 we made a mistake with the C-1. Our responsibility is to the whole community. Reminded everyone that previous Councils approved the bird tract--that doesn't make it right to do it again. Thinks a potential problem is being created there. i i 2 . Wished Mr. Bullard a Happy Birthday, enjoyed the party. Commissioner/Committee Member Bullard Commented on the following: 1. Thanked the people who attended his Birthday party. 2. Thanked staff for the good job they are doing. 3. Informed the Commission/Committee that he had a letter from Commissioner Neff, that he will accept, announcing his resignation effective February 15, 1995. We are really going to miss you, and if there are any changes, please let me know before the 15th. Also, discussed this matter briefly with PAGE FOUR - DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE MINUTES - JANUARY 18, 1995 Mayor Washburn. Mr. Metze stated that he hopes this will not effect the tour. Mr. Neff responded that it would not, so long as Mr. Wilsey volunteers the bus. ADJOURNMENT MOVED BY BULLARD, SECONDED BY METZE AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO ADJOURN THE DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE MEETING AT 10202 P.M. Approved, z_zx'V�- Daniel Metze Chairman Respectfully submitted Linda Grindstaff Recording Secretary ----------- ------------- 1 MINUTES OF LAKE ELSINORE DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE FEBRUARY 1, 1995 THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE LAKE ELSINORE DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE SCHEDULED FOR FEBRUARY 1, 1995, WAS CALLED FOR LACK OF AGENDA ITEMS. Respectfully submitted, Linda Grind staff Recording Secretary i MINUTES REGULAR DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE WEDNESDAY, FEBRUARY 15, 1995 The Design Review Committee Meeting was called to order at 8:31 p.m. ROLL CALL PRESENT: COMMITTEE MEMBERS: NEFF, MATTHIES, WILSEY, BULLARD, AND METZE ABSENT: COMMITTEE MEMBERS: NONE Also present were: City Planner Leslie, Associate Planner De Gange and Engineering Manager O'Donnell. MINUTE ACTION Moved by Bullard, Seconded by Wilsey and carried by a vote of 5-0 to approve the Minutes of January 18, 1995, as submitted and to receive and file the Minutes of February 1, 1995. PUBLIC COMMENTS There being no request to speak, Chairman Metze closed the PUBLIC COMMENTS Section. DESIGN APPLICATIONS 1. Preliminary Wall Sign and Secondary Wall Sign for Main Street Trading Post Antiuues - 141 North Main Street - Ora Brimer Mr. De Gange explained the applicant is proposing a painted wooden auto-oriented facade sign(s) to be placed over the main entry way. The dimension, colors and location are as follows: Primary Wall Sign - 4' by 8' (24 square feet) , painted with yellow gold lettering on a black background. The sign is placed on the upper facade approximately 10 feet above the sidewalk. Secondary Wall Sign - 4' by 8' (24 square feet) , painted with yellow gold lettering and border on a cream colored back- ground. The sign is to be placed on the wall facing Peck Street approximately 10 feet above the sidewalk. These signs meet the Design Standards with respect to size, lettering style and color with the exception of the color proposed for the lettering. The color yellow is a primary color that is prohibited by the Design Standards. Also, these signs are being proposed without a border which is a require- ment of the Design Standards. Chairman Metze noted for the record that the applicant was not present. There being no discussion Chairman Metze called for a motion. MOVED BY MATTHIES, SECONDED BY BULLARD AND CARRIED BY A VOTE OF 5-0 TO APPROVE THE PRIMARY WALL SIGN AND SECONDARY WALL SIGN FOR MAIN STREET TRADING POST AT 141 NORTH MAIN STREET SUBJECT TO THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS: 1. The proposed yellow lettering color be replaced with a color from the approved color palette, subject to the review and approval of the staff liaison. 2. That the applicant place a decorative border around the edge of each sign, subject to the review and approval of the staff liaison. PAGE TWO - DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE MINUTES - FEBRUARY 15, 1995 BUSINESS LICENSE APPLICATIONS 2 . 114 South Main Street - The Book Case - Stipati, Reynolds & TrigAel Mr. De Gange explained this is a request to approve a business license to operate a bookstore, The Book Case. Previously a computer service business was located at this address. This use is consistent with the uses allowed in the C-1 and C-O Districts and is not prohibited by the Historic Elsinore Design Standards. Chairman Metze noted for the record that the applicant was not present. A brief discussion was held on the hours of operation. There being no discussion Chairman Metze called for a motion. MOVED BY WILSEY, SECONDED BY NEFF AND CARRIED BY A VOTE OF 5-0 TO APPROVE A BUSINESS LICENSE FOR THE BOOK CASE AT 114 SOUTH MAIN STREET WITH A CONDITION TO BE PLACED ON THE BUSINESS LICENSE PROHIBITING THE SALE OF USED ARTICLES OTHER THAN BOOKS, SUCH AS : CLOTHING, APPLIANCES, OR ANY OTHER ITEMS NORMALLY FOUND IN A THRIFT STORE. STAFF COMMENTS City Planner Leslie informed the Commission of the following: 1. City Council at their regular meeting on February 14, 1995, accepted Commissioner NefffIs resignation, and appointed James Sands to complete his term. Mr. Sands will take his seat on March 1, 1995. 2 . City Council at their regular meeting on February 14, 1995, adopted Resolution of Intent 95-5, initiating an amendment to Sections 17 . 20.040 and 120 (R-A Development Standards) and established March 15, 1995, as the time for public hearing before the Commission. Mr. Leslie inquired whether the Commission would like to go straight into the public hearing or have a work session prior to the public hearing. It was the consensus of the Commission to have a work session prior to the public hearing and set March 15, 1995, at 7: 00 p.m. , at the Cultural Center, as the time and place for said work session, provided there are no Planning Commission/DRC items listed for the agenda; if so, then this is to be added to the agenda as an informational item. 3 . City Council at their regular meeting on February 14, 1995, tabled the Nuisance Abatement Hearing Process (Ordinance No. 994) , sending it back to staff for further work. Mr. Leslie stated the next scheduled Nuisance Abatement Hearing is scheduled for March 16, 1995, at 9 : 00 a.m. , at City Hall for those wishing to attend. Mr. Bullard suggested a staff member be designated as an alternate. Mr. Wilsey asked if the meetings could be held in the evening. He then commented that it may be more convenient for property owners if these meetings were held in the evening. Mr. Leslie defined the purpose of the Nuisance Abatement Committee highlighting the make-up of the board and the concern with Code Enforcement staff availability if the i i i i PAGE THREE - DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE MINUTES - FEBRUARY 15, 1995 meetings were held in the evening. Associate Planner De Gange stated staff has generated and distributed to each Commissioner a map for Planning Area 1, of the Historic Elsinore Overlay District, from the GIS System. Mr. Bullard commented that the GIS System is a good investment. COMMISSION/COMMITTEE COMMENTS Commissioner/Committee Member Matthies Commented that she has enjoyed working with Commissioner Neff, and looks forward to working with Mr. Sands. Commissioner/Committee Member Wilsey Commented on the following: 1. Commissioner Neff will be missed. 2 . The name for R-A (Residential Agricultural) Zoning is misleading. The intent is to preserve equestrian rights and the large lot sizes. Suggested this be renamed to something more appropriate, such as R-E (Residential Estate) . 3 . It is a good idea to have a study session on the R-A prior to the public hearing. 4. Preliminary discussions with the County Flood Control District regarding use of the multi-purpose trails. Asked that staff touch base with County Flood Control again. Commissioner/Committee Member Metze Commented on the following: 1. Commissioner Neff will be missed, and this evening is a good example of why it has been good working with him. 2. Letter received from Tuscany Hills expressing concern with developers proposing to build smaller homes in Tuscany Hills than what has been previously built. 3. Negativity toward the DRC; would not be opposed to calling a special meeting or just meeting to approve a project or business license in order to streamline the process. 4. Mitigation measures, referring to GPA 94-1, and the creation of a checklist in order to ensure compliance. Commissioner/Committee Member Neff Nothing to report, but looks forward to working with everyone on the other side of the table. Commissioner/Committee Member Bullard Commented on the following: 1. Commissioner Neff will be missed. 2. Ms. Mohylyn°s questions, will continue to work on suggestions. The suggestions presented this evening will go forth to City Council. 3 . Suggested that after adoption of GPA 94-1 by City Council that staff start preparation/work on the revisions for 1996. PAGE FOUR - DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE MINUTES - FEBRUARY 15, 1995 ADJOURNMENT MOVED BY WILSEY, SECONDED BY METZE AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO ADJOURN THE DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE MEETING AT 9: 15 P.M. Approved, 0-G� md��- Daniel Metze Chairman Respectfully submitted Linda Grindstaff Recording Secretary MINUTES REGULAR DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE WEDNESDAY, MARCH 1, 1995 The Design Review Committee Meeting was called to order at 7:30 p.m. ROLL CALL PRESENT: COMMITTEE MEMBERS: SANDS, MATTHIES, WILSEY, BULLARD, AND METZE ABSENT: COMMITTEE MEMBERS: NONE Also present were: City Planner Leslie, Associate Planner De Gange and Engineering Manager O'Donnell. MINUTE ACTION Mr. Wilsey requested the following correction to Page 3, Commission/Committee Wilsey comments #2, change the word "Equestrian" to "Estate". Moved by Wilsey, Seconded by Bullard and carried by a vote of 4-0 with Sands abstaining to approve the Minutes of February 15, 1995, as corrected. PUBLIC COMMENTS Deferred to end of meeting. DESIGN APPLICATIONS NONE BUSINESS LICENSE APPLICATIONS 1. 169 North Main Street - The Enchanted Castle Ronald Olin Mr. De Gange explained this is a request to approve a business license to operate an antique and collectible business, relocation of the current operation from 133 to 169 North Main. Previously the building housed John's Service Center, but has been vacant for three or four years. The use is consistent with the uses allowed in the C-1 and C-0 Districts and is not prohibited by the Historic Elsinore Design Standards. Chairman Metze asked if the applicant was present and would like to address the Committee. Mrs. Nancy Olin stated she would answer any questions that arise. Mr. Bullard commented on reconditioning of the building and stated his only concern is with the storage area between 169 and 183 . Suggested a condition or some other type of enforcement that will ensure this area is kept clean. Mr. Olin, 214 Broadway Street, explained that due to reconditioning of the building there is debris in this area; however, once completed the building will be repainted, coming back before the Committee for approval of colors, the parking lot will be resurfaced and striped including that area and it will be strictly parking and no storage of any kind. MOVED BY WILSEY, SECONDED BY BULLARD AND CARRIED BY A VOTE OF 5-0 TO APPROVE A BUSINESS LICENSE FOR THE ENCHANTED CASTLE AT 169 NORTH MAIN STREET WITH A CONDITION TO BE PLACED ON THE BUSINESS LICENSE PROHIBITING THE SALE OF USED CLOTHING, APPLIANCES (LARGE OR SMALL) OR ANY OTHER ITEMS NORMALLY FOUND IN A THRIFT STORE. i PAGE TWO - DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE MINUTES - MARCH 1, 1995 PUBLIC COMMENTS Joyce Hohenadl, 27 Corte Palazzo, Chairperson City Government liaison Committee for Tuscany Hills and representing the homeowners, stated she was informed by staff that a report would be submitted to the Planning Commission as an informational item this evening on the plans submitted by Colrich and Sunridge Homes, but after talking with Phyllis Rogers and Mr. Leslie was informed that the reports would not be ready until next month. Ms. Hohenadl stated she would like to present a petition signed by the homeowners, and stated that letters and copies of this petition have been hand carried to City Council members, City Manager and staff. Ms. Hohenadl then commented on the number and size of homes being proposed by Colrich and Sunridge. She expressed concern on the 1, 626 and 1, 755 square foot plans proposed by Sunridge, and that Sunridge has not presented to the homeowners or City staff the number of smaller houses they propose to build. Concern is that future developers may want to build even smaller houses based on the current square footage of existing houses. She stated the Master Plan for Tuscany Hills states that each neighborhood should have a distinctive architectural product type and/or style associated with it while keeping within the Tuscany community theme. The theme has been established with large Mediterranean homes. We simply want to protect the overall theme of our community while maintaining the integrity of our neighborhood. We hope that the Commission and staff will help us maintain the integrity of our community and ensure that Tuscany Hills develops as the City originally intended. Hearing no further requests to speak the PUBLIC COMMENTS Section was closed. STAFF COMMENTS City Planner Leslie informed the Commission of the following: 1. City Council at their meeting on February 28, 1995, approved the Nuisance Abatement Hearing Process and introduced Ordinance No. 984 for first reading. Second reading of Ordinance 984 is scheduled for March 14, 1995, and becomes effective 30 days hence, April 13, 1995. April 20, 1995, would be the next scheduled Nuisance Abatement hearing and at this point, it looks like Commissioners Metze and Sands are the ones most available to sit this board. Also, we will be looking at rescheduling the Nuisance Abatement Hearing dates and scheduling an orientation meeting. If any other Commissioners are interested in serving in this capacity, please let us know. 2 . Associate Planner De Gange has prepared and distributed this evening a table illustrating downsizing for homes (75% rule) in the Single-Family Residential Districts. Staff will continue to work on this and bring back additional information in the future and possibly schedule a work session. Associate Planner De Gange stated pursuant to the Commission's request, staff prepared the Residential Downsizing Comparison Tables, which provides a comparison of some of the downsizing of projects. Percentages have been provided as to what the downsizing entails. Mr. Metze asked staff to explain the last column, Mr. De Gange stated the last column is the percentage of the comparable smallest unit and provided an example. Mr. Leslie explained to the audience what was being discussed. PAGE THREE - DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE MINUTES - MARCH 1, 1995 Mr. Wilsey commented that the Specific Plan for Tuscany Hills and other projects set specific criteria for themes--wonders if we as staff could look very closely and make sure the dictates of the specific plan are followed to the letter. Mr. Leslie responded in the affirmative, explaining the Design Review process requires staff to look at what is being proposed in scale and mass with existing homes in the area, compatibility with scale and mass. COMMISSION/COMMITTEE COMMENTS Commissioner/Committee Member Metze Commented on the following: 1. Apologized to Commissioner Sands for calling him by the wrong name. 2 . Would like to hear from staff--believes Ms. Hohenadl indicated that Colrich isn't so much of a contention as what Sunridge is looking to be. Whatever it is going to take--I wouldn't mind if it maintains the same and it seems to be--if there is something at Planning Commission level that I can do, or we can do to make sure that--I know legally it is one thing, but I don't believe, as a Planning Commissioner, I am as concerned with the legalities as what is right for the community. Would like to see it go to a public hearing process. Believes Tuscany Hills was created with a specific concept and idea in mind. Explained his reason for wanting it to go through the hearing process being to maintain what was started and that it is very important for the community to maintain what was started. 3 . Welcomed Commissioner Sands. Commissioner/Committee Member Matthies Commented on the following: 1. Welcomed Commissioner Sands. 2 . The alley that leads through downtown, asked if lighting had been looked into for security purposes, or having property owners expand their property lines to take over the alleyway. Knows there were some property owners in the area that discussed closing the alley off, but the police department was against it for safety purposes. Referred to the problem that occurred this past weekend at the corner of Langstaff and Graham. Commented that lighting would be something to look into or consider and asked staff to check into this and report back. Mr. Leslie stated staff will check with the Engineering department and provide an update. Commissioner/Committee Member Wilsey Commented on the following: 1. Welcomed Commissioner Sands. 2 . Informed the audience that this is an ongoing problem that the Commission is acutely aware of and working on (referring to the downsizing of homes in the Tuscany Hills area) . We have been trying to come up with solutions, not only in your area, but also in other areas of the community. PAGE FOUR - DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE MINUTES - MARCH 1, 1995 COMMISSIONfCOMMITTEE COMMENTS CONTINUED Commissioner/Committee Member Bullard Commented on the following- 1. Reiterated that the Commission is concerned about the down- sizing of homes through out the community and this was one of the reasons staff was directed to look into alternatives. 2 . Welcomed Commissioner Sands. / ,Commissioner Committee Member Sands Commented on the following: 1. The trash problem in the area of I-15 and Casino Drive, this is becoming a trash dump. Requested Code Enforcement be contacted to find out who owns the property. Mr. Bullard commented that you will see some clean-up once the school is established, believes this is part of the playground area. However, along with Mr. Sands would like staff to have this area looked at, as this area was brought up before with a request to have the area checked and the property owner notified. Also, have the vacant property on Casino Drive and the freeway, north of Diamond Drive, looked at for trash clean-up/abatement. 2. Please to be aboard and will do my best. ADJOURNMENT MOVED BY WILSEY, SECONDED BY METZE AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO ADJOURN THE DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE MEETING AT 8 : 04 P.M. Approved, Daniel Metze Chairman Respectfully submitted i � Linda Grin staff G% Recording Secretary MINUTES REGULAR DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE WEDNESDAY, MARCH 15, 1995 The Design Review Committee Meeting was called to order at 8:05 p.m. ROLL CALL PRESENT: COMMITTEE MEMBERS: SANDS, MATTHIES, WILSEY, BULLARD, AND METZE ABSENT: COMMITTEE MEMBERS: NONE Also present were: City Planner Leslie, Associate Planner De Gange and Engineering Manager O'Donnell. MINUTE ACTION Moved by Wilsey, Seconded by Bullard and carried by a vote of 5-0 to approve the Minutes of March 1, 1995, as submitted. At this time, Mr. De Gange requested the Committee consider adding a business license application for 120 North Main to the agenda. Moved by Bullard, Seconded by Matthies and carried by unanimous vote to add a business license application for 120 North Main to the agenda. PUBLIC COMMENTS Deferred to end of meeting. DESIGN APPLICATIONS 1. Signage - 159 North Main - Arlene Venus - Venus Printing Mr. De Gange explained the dimensions, colors and location as follows: Primary Wall Sian- repaint and relocate an existing 6' x 2 .51 (15 square feet) wooden primary wall sign above the main entry way facing Main Street, and will consist of muted blue lettering and border to be painted on a white background. It will be installed on the upper facade in the center of the building. The applicant proposes to repaint a previously approved sign which is currently colored with gold lettering on a burgundy background and is installed above the left portion of the facade. Secondary Wall Sign- paint and install a 4' x 81 (24 square feet) wooden secondary wall sign, which is to be painted with muted blue lettering and border on a white background to match the primary sign. The sign is to be placed on the wall facing Peck Street approximately 15 feet above the sidewalk. Window Signs- paint blue lettering on both display windows on both sides of the right entryway door. The signage on the left display window encompasses approximately 10 square feet and the signage on the right window is approximately 16 square feet. Both signs comprise significantly less than 50% of their respective window faces. Vertical Lettering- muted blue letters painted on a white wood post which extends vertically from the awning at approximately 14 feet high to ground level. Chairman Metze asked if the applicant or a representative was present. Being as the applicant nor a representative was PAGE TWO - DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE MINUTES - MARCH 15, 1995 present Chairman Metze asked for discussion at the table. Mr. Wilsey stated we have a legal nonconforming use and existing signage, the applicant is adding to it. Asked if the applicant would have to come back before the Design Review Committee if he desired to repaint the existing window signage to conform with the new approved window signage. Mr. De Gange stated this would be his understanding. Mr. Wilsey suggested adding a condition or language allowing the applicant to reface the existing signage for uniformity. MOVED BY WILSEY, SECONDED BY MATTHIES AND CARRIED BY A VOTE OF 5-0 TO APPROVE SIGNAGE AT 159 NORTH MAIN STREET WITH A CONDITION ADDED THAT THE BLUE LETTERING PROPOSED FOR WINDOW SIGNS BE REPLACED WITH WHITE, SUBJECT TO THE REVIEW AND APPROVAL OF THE STAFF LIAISON, AND IF IT IS THE APPLICANT'S DESIRE TO REPAINT THE EXISTING WINDOW SIGNAGE TO CONFORM WITH THE NEW APPROVED WINDOW SIGNAGE THIS WOULD BE PERMITTED WITHOUT IT BEING NECESSARY TO GO BACK BEFORE THE DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE FOR APPROVAL AS LONG AS THE SIZE, LETTERING STYLE AND COLOR IS CONSISTENT WITH THE PROPOSED APPROVED SIGNAGE. 2 . Auto Oriented Facade Signage - 118 North Main Street - Born Again Enterprises - Claude F. Winklepleck Mr. De Gange explained the applicant proposes to install a 4' x 8' (32 square feet) wooden auto-oriented facade sign on the upper facade of the building at 118 North Main Street. The original colors proposed were navy blue and black, burnt orange which fades into yellow and varying shades of blue and red. Since the writing of this report, the applicant has submitted a revised exhibit for review. Mr. De Gange then presented the revised exhibit to the Committee, and stated this proposal is more in line with what the standards would allow in terms of coloring. Chairman Metze asked if the applicant or a representative was present. Being as the applicant nor a representative was present Chairman Metze asked for discussion at the table. Chairman Metze stated that red is the only nonconforming color, but this is considered a logo and there are provisions for allowing a business to maintain the colors of their logo. MOVED BY WILSEY, SECONDED BY SANDS AND CARRIED BY A VOTE OF 5- 0 TO APPROVE SIGNAGE AT 118 NORTH MAIN STREET UTILIZING THE REVISED GRAPHICS SUBMITTED TO STAFF. BUSINESS LICENSE APPLICATIONS 3 . Business _License - 118 North_ _ Main Street - Born Again Enterprises - Claude F. Winklepleck Mr. De Gange explained this is a request to approve a business license to operate a ceramics, crafts and gift shop business at 118 N. Main Street (Born Again Enterprises) . This application proposes to relocate a current business located at 103 N. Main to a new location at 118 N. Main. Previously the proposed building housed Nanna's Collectibles (which is also relocating to 120 N. Main) . Chairman Metze noted for the record that the applicant was not present, and asked for discussion. There being no discussion he called for a motion. MOVED BY BULLARD, SECONDED BY MATTHIES AND CARRIED BY A VOTE OF 5-0 TO APPROVE A BUSINESS LICENSE FOR BORN AGAIN ENTERPRISES AT 118 NORTH MAIN STREET. PAGE THREE - DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE MINUTES - MARCH 15, 1995 4 . Business License - 120 North Main Street - Nanna's Collectibles Mr. De Gange explained this is a request to approve a business license for the relocation of a current business located at 103 North Main to a new location at 120 North Main. He informed the Committee that this business license was originally approved prior to the establishment of the standard condition which applies to antique and collectible stores, and recommended the addition of this condition to the business license. Chairman Metze noted for the record that the applicant was not present, and asked for discussion. There being no discussion he called for a motion. MOVED BY WILSEY, SECONDED BY BULLARD AND CARRIED BY A 5-0 VOTE TO APPROVE A BUSINESS LICENSE FOR 120 NORTH MAIN STREET WITH A CONDITION TO BE PLACED ON THE BUSINESS LICENSE PROHIBITING THE SALE OF USED CLOTHING, APPLIANCES (LARGE OR SMALL) OR ANY OTHER ITEMS NORMALLY FOUND IN A THRIFT STORE. PUBLIC COMMENTS Joyce Hohenadl, 27 Corte Palazzo, Chairperson City Government liaison Committee for Tuscany Hills and representing the home- owners, thanked the Commission for defeating the Jack-in-the-Box proposal . Ms. Hohenadl reiterated her concern on the number and size of homes being proposed by Colrich and Sunridge, as raised at the March 1 meeting. Ms. Hohenadl commented on staffs attempt to limit the number of smaller homes (1, 626 and 1, 755 square feet) to 20% of the total project and appreciates staff's endeavors to increase the total square footage of the Sunridge Homes; however, with these percentages 40 houses would be built ranging 1, 626 to 1, 755 out of a total of 104 lots. Ms. Hohenadl stated she hopes the Commission would support them by making a recommendation to City Council and the City Attorney to take a stand that the smaller houses be eliminated from the Sunridge Homes development. She requested the Commission assist them in maintaining the integrity of the community and to ensure that Tuscany Hills develops as originally intended. Ms. Hohenadl inquired about the 75% rule referring to an earlier comment that if the specific plan refers back to the Zoning Code then somehow Tuscany Hills could come under this proposal or are we just out of the picture on this issue. City Planner Leslie informed Ms. Hohenadl that they are somewhat out of the picture. He explained the Tuscany Hills Specific Plan specifically states the minimum dwelling unit size allowed shall be 1, 000 square feet. There are other approved specific plans within the City that do not set a specific dwelling unit size and refers to the Zoning Code. At present, the Zoning Code sets the minimum dwelling unit size at 1, 000 square feet. If the Zoning Code is amended then those specific plans that refer to the Zoning Code would be affected by this amendment. The exception to this is, if there is a development agreement that states the standards shall remain as such, as when the plan was adopted, then any subsequent amendments would not apply. Ms. Hohenadl referred to the favorable outcome from the March 1 meeting and asked whether the Commission could make a stand and recommend to City Council and the City Attorney that the smaller houses be eliminated without them having to take up a law suit. Asked if there was some way to accomplish this without going through a big legal process. PAGE FOUR - DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE MINUTES - MARCH 15, 1995 Mariana Mohylyn, 305 West Sumner, complimented the Commission for their sensitivity and responsiveness to the community, referring to comments made regarding Tuscany Hills. Hearing no further requests to speak the PUBLIC COMMENTS Section was closed. STAFF COMMENTS Nothing to report. COMMISSION/COMMITTEE COMMENTS Commissioner/Committee Member Sands Nothing to report. Commissioner/Committee Member Matthies Nothing to report. Commissioner/Committee Member Wilsey Nothing to report. Commissioner Committee Member Metze Commented on the following: 1. Jack-in-the Box and potential legal problems. Tired of being presented one thing and told this is going to happen and then plans change, referring to Tuscany Hills and the City Center. Believes it is time the City takes a stand, but unsure how to handle. Asked if there is anything that could be done. Commissioner/Committee Member Bullard Commented on the following: 1. Mr. Metze has stated this very well. However, there is a reputation out there that Lake Elsinore is intolerable to work with and very demanding, and developers can't build their products in a timely manner. We have to demand higher standards of ourselves so that we demand higher standards from developers and other people in the community. ADJOURNMENT MOVED BY METZE, SECONDED BY WILSEY AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO ADJOURN THE DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE MEETING AT 8:37 P.M. Approved,} Daniel Metze Chairman Respectfully su'Smitted Linda Grind raff Recording Sbcretary MINUTES SPECIAL DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE MONDAY, MARCH 20, 1995 The Special Design Review Committee Meeting was called to order at 5:28 p.m. Pledge of Allegiance was led by Mr. Bullard. ROLL CALL PRESENT: COMMITTEE MEMBERS: SANDS, BULLARD AND METZE ABSENT: COMMITTEE MEMBERS: WILSEY AND MATTHIES Also present was Associate Planner De Gange. PUBLIC COMMENTS NONE DESIGN APPLICATIONS NONE BUSINESS LICENSE APPLICATIONS 1. Business License - 119 West Peck - GIs Meat Company - Gravland Schuler Mr. De Gange explained this is a request to approve a business license to operate a wholesale frozen food distribution and custom meat packing operation at 119 W. Peck Street. The applicant intends to be a restaurant supplier of U.S.D.A. food products and to provide custom meat cutting, wrapping and storage services. This application proposes to reestablish a use which had previously been in operation as Valley Pride Meats. When Valley Pride Meats was in business, it became a legally non-conforming use, the zoning for the property changed to C-1 (Neighborhood Commercial) and C-1 does not specifically allow this type of use. The City Attorney has ruled; however, that because this operation ceased as a result of the building being placed in foreclosure and the use was , not willingly abandoned during the period of time that this building was vacant is not considered to be an abandonment of the use. Chairman Metze noted for the record that the applicant was not present, and asked for discussion. Discussion occurred regarding where loading is to take place and the fact that the operation needs to be U.S.D.A. inspected. The Committee felt that the proposed conditions would mitigate their concerns. MOVED BY BULLARD, SECONDED BY SANDS AND CARRIED BY A VOTE OF 3-0 TO APPROVE A BUSINESS LICENSE FOR 119 WEST PECK, G'S MEAT COMPANY SUBJECT TO CONDITIONS REQUIRING THE BUSINESS BE U.S. D.A. INSPECTED, AND REQUIRING LOADING TO TAKE PLACE FROM THE REAR OF THE BUILDING UNLESS IT IS DETERMINED INFEASIBLE IN WHICH CASE LOADING SHOULD ONLY TAKE PLACE FROM CURB SIDE PARALLEL TO THE STREET. PUBLIC COMMENTS NONE STAFF COMMENTS NONE PAGE TWO - SPECIAL DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE - MARCH 20, 1995 COMMITTEE- NONE Ab.70NM NT THE IIESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE MEETING ADJOURNED AT 5:36 P.M. Approved, Daniel Metze Chairman Res ctfully ubmitted W� Li da Gri staff Recording Secretary MINUTES REGULAR DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE WEDNESDAY, APRIL 5, 1995 The Design Review Committee Meeting was called to order at 7: 10 P.M. ROLL CALL PRESENT: COMMITTEE MEMBERS: SANDS, MATTHIES, WILSEY, BULLARD, AND METZE ABSENT: COMMITTEE MEMBERS: NONE Also present were: City Planner Leslie, Associate Planner De Gange and Engineering Manager O'Donnell. MINUTE ACTION Moved by Bullard, Seconded by Wilsey and carried by a vote of 5-0 to approve the Minutes of March 15, 1995, as submitted. Moved by Bullard, Seconded by Metze and carried by a vote of 3-0 with Wilsey and Matthies abstaining to approve the Minutes of March 20, 1995, as submitted. At this time, Mr. De Gange requested the Committee consider adding a business license application for 122 West Graham to the agenda. It was the consensus of the Committee to add said business license to the agenda. PUBLIC COMMENTS Deferred to Planning Commission. DESIGN APPLICATIONS 1. Facade Sign - 138 North Main Street - Mayhall Printing (Dolores Mayhall) Mr. De Gange explained the applicant proposes to install a 3' x 10' painted wooden auto-oriented facade sign which will replace an existing sign that currently exists on the upper facade of the building at 138 N. Main Street. Chairman Metze noted that the applicant was present and asked if she would like to address the Committee. Ms. Mayhall stated she would answer any questions that arise. Mr. Bullard asked Ms. Mayhall if she agreed with the condition that the sign be installed flush to the building. Ms. Mayhall responded in the affirmative. MOVED BY BULLARD, SECONDED BY MATTHIES AND CARRIED BY A VOTE OF 5-0 TO APPROVE SIGNAGE AT 138 NORTH MAIN STREET (MAYHALL PRINTING) WITH A CONDITION THAT THE SIGN BE INSTALLED FLUSH TO THE BUILDING. BUSINESS LICENSE APPLICATIONS 2 . Business License - 122 West Graham - Guatemala Products & Variety (Emma LopezfCarlos Franco Silva) Mr. De Gange explained this is a request to approve a business license for Guatemala Products & Variety store. Items to be sold are canned and dry good food products, non-perishable, and gift/tourist oriented items imported from Guatemala. This business meets the standards for the C-1 zone and is not prohibited by the design standards. PAGE TWO - DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE MINUTES -- APRIL 5, 1995 Chairman Metze noted for the record that the applicant was not present. He then asked whether the applicant had been made aware of the signage criteria for the Historic Downtown. Mr. De Gange responded that this information was relayed to Ms. Lopez with the initial inquiry. Mr. Wilsey stated he would like it included in the Minutes and the applicant be informed that Design Review Committee approval is required on signage. Chairman Metze recommended the standard condition which applies to antique and collectible stores be added to the business license. MOVED BY WILSEY, SECONDED BY SANDS AND CARRIED BY A 5-0 VOTE TO APPROVE A BUSINESS LICENSE FOR 122 WEST GRAHAM WITH A CONDITION TO BE PLACED ON THE BUSINESS LICENSE PROHIBITING THE SALE OF USED CLOTHING, APPLIANCES (LARGE OR SMALL) OR ANY OTHER ITEMS NORMALLY FOUND IN A THRIFT STORE, AND THE APPLICANT BEING INFORMED THAT SIGNAGE SHOULD BE IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE DESIGN STANDARDS AND SUBJECT TO APPROVAL OF THE DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE. PUBLIC COMMENTS Deferred to Planning Commission. STAFF COMMENTS Deferred to Planning Commission. COMMISSION COMMITTEE COMMENTS Deferred to Planning Commission. ADJOURNMENT THE DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE ADJOURNED AT 7: 15 P.M. Approved, Daniel Metze Chairman e ectfully"submitted L � rinda Grindstaff G(� Recording Secretary MINUTES REGULAR DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE WEDNESDAY, APRIL 19, 1995 The Design Review Committee Meeting was called to order at 7:24 p.m. by Vice Chairwoman Matthies who conducted the meeting as Chairman Metze was absent. ROLL CALL PRESENT: COMMITTEE MEMBERS: SANDS, MATTHIES, WILSEY AND BULLARD, ABSENT: COMMITTEE MEMBERS: METZE Also present were: Associate Planner De Gange, Associate Planner Villa and Engineering Manager O'Donnell. MINUTE ACTION Moved by Sands, Seconded by Bullard and carried by a vote of 4-0 to approve the Minutes of April 5, 1995, as submitted. At this time, Mr. De Gange requested the Committee consider adding the following business license applications to the agenda: 142 North Main and 161 South Main. Moved by Bullard, Second by Wilsey and carried by a vote of 4-0 to add business license applications for 142 North Main -and 161 South Main to the agenda. PUBLIC COMMENTS Deferred to the end of the meeting. DESIGN APPLICATIONS NONE BUSINESS LICENSE APPLICATIONS 1. Potter's Palace - 144 South Main Street - Robert O. Potter Mr. De Gange explained this is a request to approve a business license to operate an antique and collectibles business. Previously the proposed building housed a doctors office that has relocated to 118 Sulphur Street. This use is consistent with the uses allowed in the C-1 and C-0 zoning districts and is not prohibited by the Historic Elsinore Design Standards. Mr. De Gange suggested the standard conditions regarding antique and collectible stores and signage be added to the business license. Vice Chairwoman Matthies noted for the record that the applicant was not present. MOVED BY WILSEY, SECONDED BY BULLARD AND CARRIED BY A VOTE OF 4-0 TO APPROVE A BUSINESS LICENSE FOR POTTER'S PALACE AT 144 SOUTH MAIN STREET WITH A CONDITION TO BE PLACED ON THE BUSINESS LICENSE PROHIBITING THE SALE OF USED CLOTHING, APPLIANCES (LARGE OR SMALL) OR ANY OTHER ITEMS NORMALLY FOUND IN A THRIFT STORE, AND ALL SIGNAGE MEET THE CRITERIA ESTABLISHED WITH THE DESIGN STANDARDS AND IS SUBJECT TO THE REVIEW AND APPROVAL OF THE DRC. PAGE TWO - DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE MEETING - APRIL 19, 1995 2 . Cherished Memories - 142 North Main Street _- Marylin James Mr. De Gange explained this is a request to approve a business license to relocate an existing antique and collectibles business from 133 North Main Street to 142 North Main Street, due to structural problems at the current location. He then suggested the standard conditions regarding antique and collectible stores and signage be added to the business license. Vice Chairwoman Matthies noted for the record that the applicant was not present. Mr. Wilsey asked if signage would be moved from the existing location to the new location and whether the DRC would need to approve concurrent signage. Mr. De Gange stated there was no previous approval for signage at this location, but will inform the applicant that signage should be in accordance with the Design Standards and subject to approval of the DRC. MOVED BY WILSEY, SECONDED BY SANDS AND CARRIED BY A VOTE OF 4-0 TO APPROVED A BUSINESS LICENSE FOR THE RELOCATION OF CHERISHED MEMORIES FROM 133 NORTH MAIN TO 142 NORTH MAIN WITH A CONDITION TO BE PLACED ON THE BUSINESS LICENSE PROHIBITING THE SALE OF USED CLOTHING, APPLIANCES (LARGE OR SMALL) OR ANY OTHER ITEMS NORMALLY FOUND IN A THRIFT STORE, AND THAT ALL SIGNAGE MEET THE CRITERIA ESTABLISHED WITH THE DESIGN STANDARDS AND IS SUBJECT TO THE REVIEW AND APPROVAL OF THE DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE. 3 . Pressing on_Faith Ministries - 161 South Main Street - Joe and Patricia Rivera Mr. De Gange explained this is a request to approve a business license to operate a religious counseling center at 161 South Main Street. The applicant is proposing a counseling center to provide guidance for drug and alcohol abuse, marriage counseling, and gang prevention. Also, it is the applicant's intent to provide 24-hour telephone services and out-patient counseling. The hours of operation proposed are 8 : 00 a.m. to 5: 00 p.m. Monday through Friday, Wednesday 7 : 00 to 9: 00 p.m. and 10: 00 a.m. to 12: 00 p.m. on Sunday. As proposed, this use is consistent with the uses allowed in the C-1 and C-O zoning districts, and is not prohibited by the Design Standards. He then highlighted staff's concerns regarding the number of people receiving counseling at any one time and the potential of this use becoming a church. Vice Chairwoman Matthies asked whether the applicant or a representative was present. Mr. Joe Rivera, Pastor of Pressing on Faith Ministries, gave a brief history on their training facility located in Perris. He explained the program is for six-months and recognized by the Court, Parole Department and Social Services, and the goal is to meet the needs of the City. Mr. Rivera stated their i primary purpose is not to attract individuals but to bring people into the center and determine their needs and send them to various treatment centers. He stated the primary purpose is not to build a church but to help the community, and by helping the people the City is going to benefit. Mr. Bullard expressed concern with the number, believes 50 is excessive. Asked about the number of people receiving counseling at the Perris facility at any one time. PAGE THREE - DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE MEETING - APRIL 19, 1995 Mr. Rivera explained the Perris facility is a live-in facility with approximately 18 people, and counseling varies. He stated they would look for a different location if it ever got to a point where the number of people became a problem. But to put a limit on how many people would be asking for help would be like limiting the number of people able to go into emergency or intensive care facilities. Our purpose is to send them to treatment centers--different facilities that can meet the needs in a long range term. Mr. Bullard stated this is an old building and inquired why there was no report from the Sheriff's Department or Fire Department on maximum occupancy of the building. Asked about fire suppression needs. Mr. De Gange stated it is his understanding that the Finance Department has certain approval requirements from various agencies or departments based on the type of business and these must be met prior to issuance of the business license. Mr. Bullard stated he is interested in helping and protecting people and reiterated his concern on public safety regarding occupancy of the building and that the Sheriff's Department be kept abreast of activities. Commissioner Wilsey asked if this is a private organization and if public funding is accepted for various programs. Asked whether the Sheriff's Department had been contacted and if there is a working relationship. Mr. Rivera stated they are a non-profit organization and not funded, though entitled to governmental assistance. A working relationship has not been established with the Sheriff's Department, although we do work with the Court, Parole Department and Social Services. Mr. Wilsey stated his concern with the establishment of this use in the Downtown area, or anywhere in the community, would be bringing an undesirable element into a confined area, and this being a potential problem for the neighborhood. For this reason, would recommend a condition be added requiring a work- ing relationship be established with the Sheriff's Department and work closely with them on controlling concerns of the community. Also, suggest the business license be granted for one year and at the end of this period the business license shall be brought back before the DRC for evaluation and reissue. MOVED BY WILSEY TO APPROVE A BUSINESS LICENSE FOR PRESSING ON FAITH MINISTRIES AT 151 SOUTH MAIN STREET SUBJECT TO THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS BEING PLACED ON THE BUSINESS LICENSE. 1. That the maximum number of individuals being counseled at one time shall not exceed 50 persons. 2 . If at any time a church use is established at this location, the operation will be required to cease until the necessary approvals (Conditional Use Permit) are obtained. 3 . This business license is granted for one year. At the end of this period the business license shall be brought back for review and discussion before the Design Review Committee. 4 . The applicant is required to coordinate with the Sheriff's Department (establish a working relationship and keeping them abreast of activities) . SECONDED BY BULLARD WITH DISCUSSION. PAGE FOUR - DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE MEETING - APRIL 19, 1995 Mr. Sands inquired about the Perris facility with regard to size and the number of people housed. Asked if individuals would be housed at the Main Street facility, and the conflict with the 24-hour monitoring system. Mr. Rivera stated at present the Perris facility houses four male clients. He explained this is a six month live-in program recognized by the court, and individuals are sentenced by the Riverside County Court system or referred by Social Services; men, women and children are housed. There is a 24- hour "hot line" so when the facility on Main Street is closed the calls will be forwarded to the training center. The center on Main Street is strictly for counseling and housing will be done at the Perris facility. Vice Chairwoman Matthies reiterated that the center on Main Street is strictly a 24-hour telephone services and out- patient counseling, and housing will be done at the Perris facility. She then asked if anyone would be staying over night at the Main Street facility. Mr. Rivera responded in the negative, and stated there is no reason for anyone to stay there. Vice Chairwoman Matthies stated that she is concerned with the number of people and the weekend hours of operation and the potential of this becoming a church. Mr. Wilsey suggested the occupancy be determined by the Fire Marshall. MR. WILSEY AMENDED HIS MOTION WITH CONCURRENCE OF THE SECOND TO AMEND CONDITION NUMBER 1 TO REFLECT THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF PEOPLE SHALL BE ESTABLISHED BY THE FIRE MARSHALL AND SHALL NOT EXCEED THE MAXIMUM OCCUPANCY LOAD FOR THE BUILDING. 1. The maximum number of individuals being counseled at any one time shall not exceed the maximum occupancy load established by the Fire Marshall (appropriate agencies/departments) . THE FOREGOING MOTION CARRIED BY A VOTE OF 4-0. PUBLIC COMMENTS NONE STAFF COMMENTS Nothing to report. COMMISSION/COMMITTEE COMMENTS Commissioner/Committee Member Sands Stated his heart is very heavy tonight because of the situation in Oklahoma City and his prayers go out to these families. Commissioner Committee Member Wilsey Nothing to report. Commissioner Committee Member Matthies Nothing to report. PAGE FIVE - DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE MEETING - APRIL 19, 1995 Commissioner/Committee Member Bullard Commented on the following: 1. The tragedy in Oklahoma City, agrees with Commissioner Sands. It is unfortunate that the United States has let itself get into this type of situation where we cannot monitor known activities in a more strict way. But it is also good that we have the Constitution that protects our individual rights. 2 . Baseball is back. 3 . The concert scheduled for May 14, 1995, at the Diamond. Commissioner/Committee Member Metze Absent. ADJOURNMENT THE DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE ADJOURNED AT 8: 02 P.M. Approved, Ericka Matthies Vice Chairwoman Resp ctfully bmitted L'n taff da Grin s Recording Secretary I i I i MINUTES SPECIAL DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE MONDAY, MAY 1, 1995 The Special Design Review Committee Meeting was called to order at 4 : 57 p.m. Pledge of Allegiance was led by Mr. Metze. ROLL CALL PRESENT: COMMITTEE MEMBERS: SANDS, WILSEY, BULLARD AND METZE ABSENT: COMMITTEE MEMBERS: MATTHIES Also present was City Planner Leslie and Associate Planner De Gange. PUBLIC COMMENTS NONE DESIGN APPLICATIONS NONE BUSINESS LICENSE APPLICATIONS 1. Business License - 134 North Main Street - California Western Boots - Teodoro and Guadalupe Gomez Mr. De Gange explained this is a request to approve a business license to operate a shoe store at 134 North Main Street. Chairman Metze noted for the record that the applicant was not present, and asked for discussion. Discussion was held on uses associated with a shoe store and permitting shoe repair and the sale of related apparel. MOVED BY SANDS, SECONDED BY WILSEY AND CARRIED BY A 4-0 VOTE TO APPROVE A BUSINESS LICENSE FOR 134 NORTH MAIN STREET WITH A CONDITION TO BE PLACED ON THE BUSINESS LICENSE PROHIBITING THE SALE OF USED CLOTHING, APPLIANCES (LARGE OR SMALL) OR ANY OTHER ITEMS NORMALLY FOUND IN A THRIFT STORE. PUBLIC COMMENTS NONE STAFF COMMENTS Mr. Leslie provided an update on the issuance of the business license for Pressing on Faith Ministries (religious counseling center) at 161 South Main Street. COMMITTEE COMMENTS NONE ADJOURNMENT THE DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE MEETING ADJOURNED AT 5: 13 P.M. Re-pectfulyst 1u,bmitted Approved, Linda Grinff Daniel Metze Recording Secretary Chairman I i I MINUTES OF LAKE ELSINORE DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE MAY 3, 1995 THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE LAKE ELSINORE DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE SCHEDULED FOR MAY 3 , 1995, WAS CALLED FOR LACK OF AGENDA ITEMS. Respectfully submitted, Linda Grin staff Recording Secretary i I i i i I i MINUTES REGULAR DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE WEDNESDAY, MAY 17 , 1995 The Design Review Committee Meeting was called to order at 7:10 p.m. ROLL CALL PRESENT: COMMITTEE MEMBERS: SANDS, MATTHIES, BULLARD AND METZE ABSENT: COMMITTEE MEMBERS: WILSEY Also present were: City Planner Leslie, Associate Planner De Gange, Associate Planner Villa and Engineering Manager O'Donnell. MINUTE ACTION Moved by Bullard, Seconded by Sands and carried by a vote of 3-0 with Metze abstaining to approve Minutes of April 19, 1995, as submitted. Moved by Bullard, Seconded by Metze and carried by a vote of 3-0 with Matthies abstaining to approve Minutes of May 1, 1995, as submitted. Minutes of May 3, 1995, were ordered received and filed. PUBLIC COMMENTS Deferred to the end of the meeting. DESIGN APPLICATIONS NONE BUSINESS LICENSE APPLICATIONS 1. Jeffco Enterprises - 102 South Main Street - Jerome J. Hosenfeld Mr. De Gange explained this is a request to approve a business license for a network marketing brokerage operation that involves telemarketing, small scale conferences/training and retail sales at 102 South Main Street. Currently, this operation is conducted within the applicant's home with a home occupation permit; however, the operation has expanded to the point where the conditions of a home occupation permit can no longer be met and actual office space is required. Chairman Metze noted for the record that the applicant was not present. Mr. Bullard stated it is unfortunate that the applicant is not present, and assumes he agrees with the conditions. Concurs with the signage coming back before the DRC. Chairman Metze asked about the number of seats indicated on the application and parking. Mr. De Gange explained that the businesses on Main Street are not self sufficient in parking and this is one reason the City is and will in the future create public parking areas. Chairman Metze then asked about the type of retail sales proposed. Mr. De Gange stated the applicant did not specify. Ms. Matthies asked about adding the standard condition pertaining to thrift stores. PAGE TWO - DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE MEETING - MAY 17, 1995 Chairman Metze stated he is concerned with the telemarketing, what is being marketed? Mr. Sands stated the applicant is a neighbor and if memory serves this pertains to insurance. Mr. Leslie stated the application could be approved subject to staff's verification of the telemarketing operation. MOVED BY METZE, SECONDED BY MATTHIES AND CARRIED BY A VOTE OF 4-0 TO APPROVE A BUSINESS LICENSE FOR JEFFCO ENTERPRISES AT 102 SOUTH MAIN STREET SUBJECT TO STAFF VERIFYING THE TYPE OF TELEMARKETING OPERATION PROPOSED AND A CONDITION PLACED ON THE BUSINESS LICENSE THAT ALL SIGNAGE MEET THE CRITERIA ESTABLISHED WITH THE DESIGN STANDARDS AND SUBJECT TO THE REVIEW AND APPROVAL OF THE DRC. 2. Fantastic Signs - 161 South Main Street - John Del Regno Mr. De Gange explained this is a request to approve a business license to operate a sign shop at 161 South Main Street. This business entails the printing of small signs, including flags and banners, for retail and mail order sales. The operation involves computer design, production plotting, cutting of vinyl signs and lettering and some silk screening. The use will also include a showroom for walk-in sales and an office area. No manufacturing of sign blanks, boards, painting, or repair will be done on the premises. Chairman Metze asked if the applicant was present and would like to address the Committee. Mr. Del Regno stated he would answer any questions that arise. Mr. Bullard commented on the silk screening aspect, use of inks and chemicals. Asked staff if inks would be considered paint or solvent, concern is safety. Mr. Leslie stated he visited the applicant's current base of operation and observed the silk screening operation and storage of inks, which are stored on a small bookshelf. Mr. Leslie explained that he discussed the operation with the Chief Building Official, after visiting the site, and as part of the business licensing an inspection will be required. They will review the amount of material or inks that are to be stored and depending upon the quantity could require some type of cabinet for storage. Mr. Del Regno, 32369 Valleyview, stated the inks fit into a refrigerator, this is how the inks were stored in the shop operated in Santa Ana. These are the same inks being used by printers and there are a couple of print shops Downtown. Mr. Bullard asked staff to look into the new techniques that are being used today for printing. Maybe revise the Code to allow this type of use without a Conditional Use Permit. MOVED BY BULLARD, SECONDED BY SANDS AND CARRIED BY A VOTE OF 4-0 TO APPROVE A BUSINESS LICENSE FOR FANTASTIC SIGNS AT 161 SOUTH MAIN STREET UTILIZING THE PROVISION WITHIN SECTION 1744 . 020 V. THAT ALLOWS THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR TO MAKE A DETERMINATION THAT A PROPOSED USE IS IN ACCORDANCE THE ZONE IT IS PROPOSED IN, AND WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS PLACED ON THE BUSINESS LICENSE: PROPOSED SIGNAGE SHALL BE SUBMITTED FOR THE REVIEW AND APPROVAL OF THE DRC AND THIS SIGNAGE MUST BE IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE HISTORIC ELSINORE DESIGN STANDARDS; THIS BUSINESS SHALL BE CONFINED TO THOSE PROCESSES (OPERATIONS) SPECIFICALLY INDICATED IN THE SUPPLEMENTAL INFORMATION SUBMITTED WITH THIS BUSINESS LICENSE APPLICATION AND SPECIFIED IN THE STAFF REPORT DATED MAY 17, 1995. PAGE THREE - DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE MEETING - MAY 17, 1995 PUBLIC COMMENTS Jim Boudreau, 29888 Big Range Road, Canyon Lake, new owner of 283 North Main Street, 14 unit apartment building, requested a Special Design Review Committee meeting to process his fencing plan. Mr. Boudreau explained that his intent was to improve the- property and that the building has been refurbished. He stated a large amount of fencing has been purchased to replace the existing fencing and that fencing has been installed along Sumner for security reasons. After the installation of this fencing the need for DRC approval was discovered. Mr. Boudreau stated there may be a problem in that the Code requires the fencing to have metal poles, which is not being used. City Planner Leslie explained that the Design Standards require fencing in Planning Area 1 to be approved by the DRC, and encourages the use of wrought iron, especially if in public view, although the DRC has allowed other materials to be used. The use of metal poles is not a Code requirement but a standard that is being used/required. Mr. Leslie then informed Mr. Boudreau of the processing procedure. STAFF COMMENTS City Planner Leslie stated the property owner, Oak Grove Equities, is requesting another continuance on the appeal before City Council on Jack in-the-Box in order to further look at the issues and research other options. Commissioner Metze stated if there are site plan changes would encourage that it is sent back to the Commission. City Planner Leslie stated this would be at the discretion of City Council. Commissioner Bullard asked if the product is changed for the site would this then make it null and void, and whether they would have to start all over. City Planner Leslie responded in the affirmative and explained that if the use or site is changed then a new application will be required. Mr. Leslie stated the applicant has talked about coming in with a design application for Denny's at another site within this center. COMMISSION/COMMITTEE COMMENTS Commissioner Committee Member Matthies Commented on the following: 1. The various schedules of the Committee Members and the difficulties in scheduling a special meeting and then the applicant not showing up for said meeting. 2 . There is a light on Langstaff by the alley, thank you. But would like to see more lights down the alleys. 3 . Glad to see new businesses coming into the Valley. CommissionerfCommittee Member Sands Asked staff about the three (3) banners on the wrought iron fence at the proposed Jack-in-the Box location, within the Elsinore City Center. Pursuant to the Code, these banners are to be on the building. City Planner Leslie stated these banners were noticed by Code Enforcement and a notice of violation may have already been served or will be served. Also, a number of other notices will be served to businesses in that area. PAGE FOUR - DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE MEETING - MAY 17, 1995 Commissioner/Committee Member Metze Commented on the following: 1. The number of special meetings called and whether any of these businesses are now open. Associate Planner De Gange stated these businesses were not open, and explained there are issues that must be rectified before opening. 2 . Mr. Boudreau has a legitimate case. Suggested staff work with Mr. Boudreau and a special meeting scheduled. 3 . Referred to mitigation measures, policy regarding public safety, and asked if all proposals are reviewed by the Sheriff's Department. Stated he would like to see more input from �the Sheriff's Department in regard to residential and commercial proposals. suggested working closely with the Sheriff's Department and maybe through conditions of approval or ordinances public safety issues can be addressed. City Planner Leslie stated proposals are forwarded to the Sheriff's Department for review. Unfortunately, the Sheriff's Department has a number of duties and sometimes pressed for time. Staff has discussed the creation of a standardized list that can be included as conditions. CommissionerfCommittee Member Bullard Commented on the following: 1. Fencing proposed at 283 North Main Street and directed staff to work with Mr. Boudreau, and stated that he will be available for any special meeting. City Planner Leslie inquired about setting a date and time. It was the consensus of the Committee that staff work with the applicant, prepare a report and notify the Committee Members then a day and time can then be agreed upon. 2 . Safety factors. With the budget cuts that are coming up and growth of the community our police and fire services are going to be stretched. We need to assist every citizen as much as we can and make sure that they are safe. Visibility and lighting are very important and windows should remain clear and afford police vehicles good visibility when cruising the area. Citizens should report to the City any broken lights within their lighting district. In an effort to get this message out citizens are encouraged to make comments during the City Council meetings, since these meetings are televised. Commissioner Committee Member Wilse Absent. ADJOURNMENT THE DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE ADJOURNED AT 7 :50 P.M. Respectfully submitted Approved, Linda Grin staff Daniel Metze Recording Secretary Chairman MINUTES REGULAR DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE WEDNESDAY, JUNE 7 , 1995 The Design Review Committee Meeting was called to order at 7:40 p.m. ROLL CALL PRESENT: COMMITTEE MEMBERS: SANDS, MATTHIES, METZE, WILSEY ABSENT: COMMITTEE MEMBERS: BULLARD Also present were: City Planner Leslie, Associate Planner Villa, Associate Planner De Gange and Engineering Manager O'Donnell. MINUTE ACTION Moved by Sands, Seconded Matthies and carried by a vote of 3-0 with Wilsey abstaining to approve the Minutes of May 17 , 1995. PUBLIC COMMENTS Deferred to end of Meeting. DESIGN APPLICATIONS 1. Fencinct Plan - 283 North Main Street/108 Sumner Avenue - Jim Boudreau. Associate Planner De Gange explained that the applicant is requesting DRC approval of a fencing plan for an apartment complex located at 283 North Main Street/108 Sumner Avenue. He further explained that the applicant is proposing to install and replace 5' high white painted cedar fencing around portions of the perimeter and the interior of the apartment and a 50' length of 3' high white painted "picket" type fencing along a portion of the property facing Main Street. He noted that the installation of the fencing is part of the applicant's efforts to renovate the interior and exteriors, including repairs and repainting, of all the units of the complex. Mr. De Gange noted that the Design Standards, though they encourage the use of wrought iron, block or stucco, do not prohibit wood and since all the units in the complex are made of wood siding, the type of wood being proposed for the fencing is consistent with the architecture of the buildings. He further noted that the applicant intends to repaint all of the structures and the fencing the same color white. He explained that based on the Design Standards statement that all fencing should be combined with landscaping to soften the impact, it is suggested that a condition be added which requires the applicant to submit a plan indicating existing landscaped areas and areas where landscaping should be added for the review and approval of the staff liaison. He explained that the area of the property fronting Sumner Avenue is for the most part weeds as is the rear portion of the property off of Spring Street and at a minimum staff would recommend that the area fronting Sumner Avenue be planted with a combination of ground cover and shrubbery. Mr. De Gange explained that the other problem areas with this property include an accumulation of trash, debris and miscellaneous items in the chain link fenced area at the rear of the property and it appears that two (2) inoperable vehicles are also stored in this area in direct violation of the City Municipal Code. He further explained that the property owner shall be required to clean this area up and the trash bin for the property is stored in the area without a screening enclosure as is required by the Zoning Code. He noted that since the property owner is putting up fencing, it is PAGE TWO - DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE MINUTES - JUNE 7, 1995 recommended that he be required to put a similar fencing enclosure around the trash bin to the minimum dimensions of the code, including an access gate. Mr. De Gange stated that it is the recommendation of staff that the DRC approve the fencing plan for 283 N. Main/108 Sumner Avenue as proposed with the following conditions added: the applicant shall submit to the DRC staff liaison for his review and approval a landscape plan which indicates the areas associated with the proposed fencing where landscaped areas exists and where landscaping will be added especially along the Sumner Street frontage complete with a plant list including size, species and spacing. He further stated staffs recommendation that the applicant shall also be required to build an enclosure around the trash bin storage site to minimum required dimensions, using materials similar to the wood fencing being used elsewhere on the property. Jim Boudreau, 29886 Big Range, Canyon Lake, who is the applicant, stated that he was available for questions. Mr. Sands stated that he has visited the site and noted that Mr. Boudreau is well on the way with the project and asked if the fencing would be painted on the inside as well as the outside. Mr. Boudreau stated that it would be, and both sides will be the same white. Ms. Matthies questioned the abandoned vehicles on the property as well as the trash. Mr. Boudreau stated that the owners of the vehicles have been notified and if they do not remove the vehicles, then they will be towed away. He noted that as of this date most of the weeds and trash have been cleaned up and the clean up efforts will continue. Chairman Metze asked if Mr. Boudreau concurred with the conditions suggested by staff. Mr. Boudreau stated that he did. MOVED BY WILSEY, SECONDED BY SANDS AND CARRIED BY A UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO APPROVE THE FENCING PLAN AT 283 NORTH MAIN STREET/108 SUMNER AVENUE AS PROPOSED WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS ADDED: THE APPLICANT SHALL SUBMIT TO THE DRC STAFF LIAISON FOR HIS REVIEW AND APPROVAL A LANDSCAPE PLAN WHICH INDICATES THE AREAS ASSOCIATED WITH THE PROPOSED FENCING WHERE LANDSCAPED AREAS EXISTS AND WHERE LANDSCAPING WILL BE ADDED, ESPECIALLY ALONG THE SUMNER STREET FRONTAGE COMPLETE WITH A PLANT LIST INCLUDING SIZE, SPECIES AND SPACING. THE APPLICANT SHALL ALSO BE REQUIRED TO BUILD AN ENCLOSURE AROUND THE TRASH BIN STORAGE SITE TO MINIMUM REQUIRED DIMENSIONS, USING MATERIALS SIMILAR TO THE WOOD FENCING BEING USED ELSEWHERE ON THE PROPERTY. BUSINESS LICENSE APPLICATIONS None. PUBLIC COMMENTS None. STAFF COMMENTS City Planner Leslie commented on the followings: 1. Asked Committee/Commissioners for suggestions regarding trash enclosures for security purposes. He noted that there have been numerous incidents of illegal activities occurring as well as the enclosures being used by vagrants. He explained that the enclosures have been locked, but it has been ineffectual and that it has been suggested that barbwire be used to discourage entry. He stated that he also suggests PAGE THREE - DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE MINUTES - JUNE 7, 1995 consideration of wrought iron curved and pointed at the top of the block wall trash enclosures. MR. BULLARD ARRIVED AT THE MEET AT 7 :50 P.M. Chairman Metze asked if staff would do a breakdown in regard to cost for curved wrought iron to install on the top of the enclosures and give the Committee/Commission an idea of what it would cost and if it is at all possible. He stated that with the improvements in the downtown area and the changes that are occurring such as the Red Lion, that he hopes the progress of the future will eliminate the current problems that the downtown is experiencing. Mr. Sands asked about the downtown area and asked if there had been a study done in regard to the improvements made to date and how it has impacted the various incidents that the downtown has experienced. He also stated that he would like to see a study of the cost for wrought iron. Mr. Wilsey stated that he felt that wrought iron was the only type of material that should be used to remain consistent with the downtown design. He further stated that he is not in favor of barbwire. City Planner Leslie stated that he would get a breakdown of costs and bring it back before the Planning Commission. He stated that the City is exempt, but they would still have to bring the issue before the Design Review Committee. Chairman Metze stated that he was in favor of wrought iron. 2. Announced a Study Session, June 8, 1995, 8 : 30 a.m. at City Hall which will address the lease of Gediman Park by Guadalajara Restaurant. He explained that this would eventually be heard by the Design Review Committee and that they might be interested in attending. Mr. Bullard stated that he felt it would be a positive action to have outdoor dining in the downtown. City Planner Leslie stated that the lease of the park would create a cost savings related to maintenance, that Guadalajara would be required to provide the annual Christmas tree and provide security for the Poe Street parking lot as well as the City receiving rent for the property. He pointed out that the other item on the Study Session Agenda was a 100-acre water park proposed by Par Three. He explained that it is proposed to be the size and quality of two lands at Disneyland. COMMISSIONER/COMMITTEE COMMENTS Commissioner/Committee Member Matthies commented on the following: 1. Stated that she was in favor of outdoor dining and suggested that it not only be a consideration regarding the Christmas tree but also the Santa sled that is used each year for the children. Commissioner/Committee Member Sands commented on the following: 1. Asked if the trash enclosures discussed were privately owned or were owned by the City. City Planner Leslie stated that the trash enclosures discussed are the ones owned by the City in the City parking lots. 2. Clarified the location of Gediman Park. i PAGE FOUR - DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE MINUTES - JUNE 7, 1995 Commissioner Committee Member Bullard commented on the following: 1. Thanked Vice Chairman Wilsey for handling the meeting. 2 . Clarified the fact that Guadalajara had rented the building next to the park and asked if the item would be before the DRC. City Planner Leslie stated that they would and gave a brief overview of the possible changes that will be made. 3 . Asked that the City Planner be sure that there is no conflict between the Sports Complex and Entertainment Center and the Water Park. City Planner Leslie stated that one is a water park and the other will have rides and attractions which are totally different and he does not feel that there will be a conflict. Commissioner/Chairman Metze commented on the following: 1. He stated that he felt that the Sports Complex and Entertainment Center and the water park will compliment each other. 2 . Gave a brief report on his visit to the different Main Street merchants and explained that he felt that there were no negative feelings about the DRC and that he was impressed with the different types of business on Main Street. Commissioner Committee Member Wilsey commented on the following: 1. Asked about the time frame for improvements for 888 Development. City Planner Leslie stated that he would have to research this item, but that they are required to build a park at 130 Certificate of occupancies and they are only at 105 and the market is slow at this time. 2 . Asked about the trail system for 888 Development. City Planner Leslie stated that he did not find a condition for a time frame for trails. He stated that the trails will be introduced at the same time as improvements are made to Terra Cotta. There was general discussion regarding continuation of trails throughout the different project. ADJOURNMENT MOVED BY METZE, SECONDED BY SANDS AND APPROVED UNANIMOUSLY TO ADJOURNED THE DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE AT 8:30 P.M. APPROVED, DLC'�—' -Z�m DANIEL METZE CHAIRMAN Respectfully sub fitted, Adria Brynin Depu City erk MINUTES REGULAR DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE WEDNESDAY, JUNE 21, 1995 The Design Review Committee Meeting was called to order at 7 : 01 p.m. TROLL CALL, PRESENT: COMMITTEE MEMBERS: SANDS, MATTHIES, METZE, WILSEY AND BULLARD ABSENT: COMMITTEE MEMBERS: NONE Also present was: Associate Planner De Gange MINUTE ACTION Moved by Wilsey, Seconded Sands and carried by a vote of 4-0 with Bullard abstaining to approve the Minutes of June 7, 1995, as submitted. PUBLIC COMMENTS Deferred to end of Meeting. DESIGN APPLICATIONS 1. Auto-Oriented Facade Sign - 134 North Main Street - California Western Boot - Teodoro and Guadalupe Gomez Associate Planner De Gange explained the applicant is requesting DRC approval to install a 3 ' x 6' 118 square feet) painted wooden auto-oriented facade sign on the front upper facade of the building. He stated the sign has already been painted, referring to the photograph submitted; however, the sign as painted does not meet the standards with respect to coloring, and staff has added a condition requiring the primary lettering to be repainted with an approved color, and that a decorative border be provided. Also, the applicant has utilized four different colors, and the standards stipulate that a sign can be composed of only three different colors. The standards do make provisions for allowing a business to maintain the colors and look of its logo, provided the DRC considers the cowboy to be the applicant's logo. Chairman Metze asked if the applicant was present and would like to address the Committee. Ms. Veronica Verdugo, translator, indicated that Mr. Gomez would prefer to answer any questions. Chairman Metze asked that his appreciation for the sign not being installed prior to DRC approval be relayed to Mr. Gomez. Mr. Wilsey referred to condition number 2, pertaining to the decorative border and asked for suggestions. He stated there is no room for a border on the sign face itself, and suggested some type of wooden scalloped material to frame it. He then questioned whether these improvements would require a professional sign maker, condition number 3. Mr. De Gange explained that the Design Standards require all signage to be fabricated and/or painted by a professional sign maker/painter and this was the reason for inclusion. Mr. Wilsey suggested that condition number 2 be changed to reflect that the sign will utilize a frame type border, subject to the approval of staff. PAGE TWO - DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE MINUTES - JUNE 21, 1995 MOVED BY WILSEY, SECONDED BY MATTHIES TO APPROVE THE GENERAL DESIGN OF THE WOODEN AUTO-ORIENTED FACADE SIGN AT 134 NORTH MAIN STREET (CALIFORNIA WESTERN BOOTS) SUBJECT TO THE THREE CONDITIONS AS AMENDED, AND SUBJECT TO THE APPROVAL OF THE STAFF LIAISON: Condition 1: The applicant shall repaint the primary lettering and the white background with an approved color; Condition 2 : The applicant shall include a decorative border either painted or add to the edge in the form of a wood border; Condition 3 : The applicant shall utilize a professional sign painter/maker for these improvements. Mr. Sands stated he concurs on the border. He stated the sign looks better than what the photograph reflects; however, would asked the applicant to consult with a professional sign maker to tone down the colors. Mr. De Gange stated this is addressed in condition number 1. Mr. Bullard asked for clarification on the motion, and asked whether the motion included amendment to condition number 2 and whether condition number 3 was to remain or be deleted. Mr. Wilsey stated the motion was to approve the sign subject to staff recommendation with amendment to condition number 2, as discussed, and condition number 3 remaining. Chairman Metze asked if the applicant understood the recom- mendation made in regard to the sign, referring to the past communication difficulties. Ms. Verdugo, translator, relayed the action taken to Mr. Gomez. Ms. Verdugo stated that Mr. Gomez has asked if the red lettering is to be changed to a burgundy color and whether the yellow color of the circle (cowboy) is to be changed to a cream color. Mr. Bullard explained that yellow color of the circle could remain if the cowboy is determined to be the logo, and asked the applicant if this was his logo. Ms. Verdugo stated that Mr. Gomez understands and is in agreement with the recommendation. Mr. Sands asked that the words "either painted" be deleted from condition number 2 . Mr. Wilsey stated this was the basis for his motion and intent. There being no further discussion Chairman Metze called for the question. THE FOREGOING MOTION CARRIED BY A VOTE OF 5-0. BUSINESS LICENSE APPLICATIONS 2 . Consignments, Etc. - 102 South Main Street - Jacqueline K. Burch Associate Planner De Gange explained the applicant is requesting DRC approval of a business license to operate an antiques/consignment business (antiques, collectibles including furniture and household items on a consignment basis) . He then highlighted staff's concerns with the consignment aspect, and stated that conditions have been - -- 21 1995 PAGE THREE DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE MINUTES DUNE , prepared to safeguard any concerns dealing with the sale of used merchandise. Chairman Metze asked if the applicant was present and would like to address the Committee. Ms. Jacqueline Burch stated there will be approximately 85-95 percent antiques, but there will be some consignment furniture that will be of very high quality and neatly placed. There will not be any clothing or appliances (large or small) . Ms. Burch then stated the only question she has is on signage and painting the front of the building and these would come later. Mr. Sands asked for a description of the household items. Ms. Burch stated household items could be tables, chairs, armoires, sofas, and whatnots all bordering to the antique or very high quality. These are items that you want to sell but not have a garage sale, so it is brought to us and we sell it. Ms. Burch then explained how consignment works and that there are signed contracts. The contract has a stipulation that merchandise will be picked-up if not sold after two-months, and if the merchandise is not picked-up after notification then it becomes our property to keep or donate to charity. Mr. Wilsey stated his concerns have been addressed. Ms. Matthies stated that after hearing the explanation she has no questions. Mr. Bullard commented on the time period for consignment furniture being 90 days, and at the end this period the merchandise is removed from the store or donated to charity, correct? Ms. Burch responded in the affirmative. MOVED BY BULLARD, SECONDED BY MATTHIES TO APPROVE THE BUSINESS LICENSE AT 102 SOUTH MAIN STREET (CONSIGNMENT ETC. ) WITH CONDITIONS PLACED ON THE BUSINESS LICENSE TO ENSURE THAT NO USED CLOTHING AND APPLIANCES (LARGE OR SMALL) , OR ANY OTHER ITEMS NORMALLY FOUND IN A "THRIFT" STORE (A PROHIBITED USE) BE PERMITTED TO BE SOLD AND THAT ANY USED MERCHANDISE WHICH IS NOT AN ANTIQUE WILL BE OF HIGH, COLLECTIBLE QUALITY. THIS APPROVAL IS SUBJECT TO A SIX MONTH REVIEW BY THE DRC AND IF AT THAT TIME IT IS THE OPINION OF THE DRC THAT THE USED MERCHANDISE (NOT CLASSIFIED AS AN ANTIQUE) BEING SOLD IS NOT OF HIGH QUALITY, THAT THE BUSINESS LICENSE WOULD BECOME NULL AND VOID WITHOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF RENEWAL. ALL SIGNAGE MUST MEET THE CRITERIA ESTABLISHED WITH THE DESIGN STANDARDS AND SHALL BE SUBMITTED TO THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT FOR REVIEW AND APPROVAL BY THE DRC. Chairman Metze asked if the applicant understood the recom- mendations made in the Staff Report and explained that the reason is to maintain the integrity. Ms. Burch stated that she understands the recommendation and this will be first class. Ms. Burch stated sooner or later she will have questions for someone about windows and signage. There being no further discussion Chairman Metze called for the question. THE FOREGOING MOTION CARRIED BY A VOTE OF 5-0. PUBLIC COMMENTS NONE PAGE FOUR - DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE MINUTES - JUNE 21, 1995 STAFF COMMENTS Nothing to report. COMMISSIONER/COMMITTEE COMMENTS Commissioner/Committee Member Wilsey Nothing to report. Commissioner/Committee Member Sands Nothing to report. Commissioner/Committee Member Matthies Commented on signs being made utilizing colors that do not meet the standards and then coming in for approval. Asked what process we are missing in getting the point across. Commissioner/Chairman Metze Nothing to report. Commissioner/Committee Member Bullard Informed the Commission of the memorandum received regarding the Planning Commissioners Orientation Conference scheduled for July 221 1995. He then explained that due to budget constraints we will not be able to send everyone to the League of California Cities Conference, in October. For those desiring to attend please contact myself or Linda and then a decision can be made on who will be sent. Commissioner Wilsey stated the Planning Commissioners Orientation Conference is primarily aimed at newly appointed officials and suggested the newest members might consider attending this conference. ADJOURNMENT MOVED BY WILSEY, SECONDED BY METZE AND APPROVED UNANIMOUSLY TO ADJOURNED THE DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE AT 7 : 28 P.M. APPROVED, JQ-0' Daniel Metze Chairman Respectfully submitted, r Linda Grindstaff Recording Secretary MINUTES OF LAKE ELSINORE DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE JULY 5, 1995 THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE LAKE ELSINORE DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE SCHEDULED FOR JULY 5, 1995, WAS CALLED FOR LACK OF AGENDA ITEMS. Resp ctfully submitted, L nda Grind taff Recording Secretary I f MINUTES SPECIAL DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE WEDNESDAY, JULY 12, 1995 The Special Design Review Committee Meeting was called to order at 4:47 p.m. ROLL CALL PRESENT: COMMITTEE MEMBERS: SANDS, BULLARD AND METZE ABSENT: COMMITTEE MEMBERS: MATTHIES AND WILSEY Also present was Associate Planner De Gange. PUBLIC COMMENTS NONE DESIGN APPLICATIONS 1. Design Approval for an Awnincf and Colors to be Used in Repainting of the Building at 120 North Main - John Williams Mr. De Gange explained the request is for installation of a maroon and/or gray canvas awning along the front facade of the building over the main entryway and main display windows. The applicant is also proposing to repaint the exterior of the building with lavender as the primary wall color and a burgundy accent color. Color scheme approval is generally handled by the staff liaison, however, the colors in this proposal are not from the approved color palette established by the Historic Design Standards which consequently requires Design Review Committee approval. There was general discussion with respect to the awning and colors. The Design Review Committee accepted staff's recommendation with respect to the awning being of a fire retardant material. With respect the colors the applicant agreed to use a gray color to be selected from the color palette and the Design Review Committee approved the use of burgundy as an accent which matches the applicant's awning. MOVED BY SANDS, SECONDED BY BULLARD AND CARRIED BY A VOTE OF 3-0 TO APPROVE THE PROPOSED AWNING USING ANY OF THE THREE COLORS SUBMITTED OR ANY COMBINATION THEREOF, WITH THE ADDED STIPULATION THAT MATERIAL USED IN THE FABRICATION OF THE AWNING BE OF A FIRE RETARDANT MATERIAL, AND APPROVED THE REPAINTING OF THE BUILDING UTILIZING A GRAY COLOR SELECTED FROM THE APPROVED COLOR PALETTE, WITH A BURGUNDY ACCENT COLOR WHICH MATCHES THE APPROVED AWNING, SUBJECT TO THE APPROVAL OF THE STAFF LIAISON. BUSINESS LICENSE APPLICATIONS 2 . Chuckles Java Junction - 123-B North Main Street - Frank and Alice Jackson Mr. De Gange explained the request is for a business license to operate a coffee and tea room. This business entails the sale of pre-made coffee and tea for consumption on the premises and retail sale of coffee, tea products and supplies. Previously operated at this address was an antique and collectible/furniture business. There was general discussion with respect to the hours of operation and the type of accessory items to be sold. PAGE TWO - SPECIAL DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE MEETING - JULY 12, 1995 Mr. Jackson stated he was close to submitting an application for signage and requested clarification as to the requirements for signage. Mr. De Gange informed Mr. Jackson that he would supply him with the information on signage. MOVED BY SANDS, SECONDED BY BULLARD AND CARRIED BY A VOTE OF 3-0 TO APPROVE THE BUSINESS LICENSE FOR CHUCKLES JAVA JUNCTION AT 123-B NORTH MAIN STREET WITH A CONDITION INCLUDED WHICH STIPULATES THAT ALL SIGNAGE BE SUBMITTED FOR THE REVIEW AND APPROVAL OF THE DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE AND THAT THIS SIGNAGE MUST BE IN CONFORMANCE WITH THE HISTORIC ELSINORE DESIGN STANDARDS . ADJOURNMENT THE DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE ADJOURNED AT 5: 05 P.M. APPROVED, ti- n,-I-z , - Daniel Metze Chairman Res ctfully submitted, L nda Grindstaff Recording Secretary MINUTES REGULAR DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE WEDNESDAY, JULY 19, 1995 The Design Review Committee Meeting was called to order at 7:45 p.m. ROLL CALL PRESENT: COMMITTEE MEMBERS: SANDS, MATTHIES, WILSEY AND METZE ABSENT: COMMITTEE MEMBERS: BULLARD Also present were Community Development Director Leslie, Associate Planners De Gange and Villa and Engineering Manager O'Donnell. MINUTE ACTION Moved by Wilsey, Seconded by Sands and carried by a vote of 4-0 to approve the Minutes of June 21, 1995, as submitted, and to receive and file Minutes of July 5, 1995. Moved by Sands, Seconded by Metze and carried by a vote of 2-0 with Matthies and Wilsey abstaining to approve the Minutes of the Special Meeting of July 12, 1995, as submitted. At this time, Mr. De Gange requested the Committee consider adding a business license application for 112 North Main Street to the agenda. It was the consensus of the Committee to add said business license to the agenda. PUBLIC COMMENTS Deferred to end of Meeting. DESIGN APPLICATIONS 1. Rear Fencing - 144 South Main Street - Potter's Palace (Antiques and Collectibles) Mr. De Gange explained the requests is for installation of a six-foot high chainlink fence to enclose the rear portion of the lot at 144 North Main Street. The request stems from the applicant's desire to improve security around his place of business and his upper story residence, having recently been subjected to a break in and numerous individual incidences of trespassing. Chairman Metze noted for the record that the applicant was not present, and asked for discussion from the table. Mr. Wilsey stated he viewed the area, and commented on the existing fencing, square mesh and new chainlink. He stated the fencing is not visible, would prefer wrought iron but not appropriate for this location and would allow chainlink in this situation. Concurs with staff that a landscaping plan be submitted to buffer the rear visibility. He asked for the use of this area, whether for parking or if it is open. Mr. De Gange stated a carport is in this area, and assumes it will be fenced and gated for access. Mr. Sands stated he concurs with Mr. Wilsey on the security aspects of chainlink fence instead of the wrought iron. Chairman Metze commented on the recommendation and stated he would like to add the following wording "subject to the staff liaison approval. " He then asked that the following be entered for the record. Policy for the Historic Design Review PAGE TWO - DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE MEETING - JULY 19, 1995 Standards is not being changed. We have allowed this in the past to accommodate people because of crime and other problems that are occurring in the area. As time goes on, and hope- fully progress is made on Main Street, and as things improve we will not be allowing chainlink regardless, but at this time believes it is in the best interest of the people to allow him this. MOVED BY WILSEY, SECONDED BY SANDS AND CARRIED BY A VOTE OF 4-0 TO WAIVE THE DESIGN STANDARDS WITH REGARDS TO THE CHAIN- LINK FENCE AT 144 SOUTH MAIN STREET WITH A CONDITION ADDED REQUIRING THE APPLICANT TO SUBMIT A LANDSCAPE PLAN FOR THE FENCING, SUBJECT TO THE APPROVAL OF STAFF LIAISON. BUSINESS LICENSE APPLICATIONS 2 . Business License - 122 North Main Street - Rose's Recollections - Rosa and Roger Pollock Mr. De Gange explained the requests is for a business license to operate an antique and collectible business at 122 North Main Street. This building previously housed an antique and collectible business, however, it has been vacant for some time. Chairman Metze noted for the record that the applicant was not present, and asked for discussion from the table. There being no discussion, he called for a motion. MOVED BY WILSEY, SECONDED SANDS BY AND CARRIED BY A VOTE OF 4-0 TO APPROVE THE BUSINESS LICENSE AT 122 NORTH MAIN STREET WITH CONDITIONS PLACED ON THE BUSINESS LICENSE TO ENSURE THAT NO USED CLOTHING AND APPLIANCES (LARGE OR SMALL) , OR ANY OTHER ITEMS NORMALLY FOUND IN A "THRIFT STORE" (A PROHIBITED USE) BE PERMITTED TO BE SOLD, AND THAT ALL SIGNAGE MUST MEET THE CRITERIA ESTABLISHED WITHIN THE DESIGN STANDARDS AND IS SUBJECT TO THE REVIEW AND APPROVAL OF THE DRC. 3 . Business License - 112 North_Main Street -_Hall of Fame Sports Cards and Memorabilia - Douglas Barendregt Mr. De Gange explained the requests is for a business license to operate sports card and memorabilia shop at 112 North Main Street. The use is consistent with the zoning standards. Staff would recommend that the standard condition for signage be added. Mr. Wilsey inquired about the location and surrounding uses. Mr. De Gange provided the exact location. Chairman Metze noted for the record that the applicant was not present. Mr. De Gange stated the applicant was not aware that this would be on the agenda. Mr. Leslie stated an argument could be made that sports cards are second hand items. Concerned that other items could be received in addition to the sports cards, and the Committee may want to consider adding a condition that this business is mainly sports cards and memorabilia and no other type of second hand merchandise will be allowed. Chairman Metze asked staff how descriptive the applicant was with regards to the type of business. Mr. De Gange stated the business license application contains the description. Mr. Sands stated a sports card shop went in on Mission Trail recently and asked if this was so conditioned. Mr. Leslie responded in the negative, and explained that the zoning classification was different and allows second hand stores. PAGE THREE - DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE MEETING - JULY 19, 1995 Mr. Sands suggested placing a six month review on the business license. Chairman Metze referred to the Building and Zoning Compliance Attachment to the Business License, which lists the hours of operation and detailed description of the business. Suggested a condition be added that if the applicant deviates from the submitted detailed description of the business then he would have to come back before the DRC. MOVED BY METZE, SECONDED WILSEY BY AND CARRIED BY A VOTE OF 4-0 TO APPROVE THE BUSINESS LICENSE AT 112 NORTH MAIN STREET WITH CONDITIONS ADDED TO THE BUSINESS LICENSE THAT PRIOR TO ANY DEVIATION FROM WHAT THE APPLICANT HAS EXPLICITLY STATED IN THE APPLICATION, AS FAR AS THE NATURE OF THE BUSINESS, THEY WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK TO DRC FOR FURTHER REVIEW, AND THAT ALL SIGNAGE MUST MEET THE CRITERIA ESTABLISHED WITHIN THE DESIGN STANDARDS AND IS SUBJECT TO THE REVIEW AND APPROVAL OF THE DRC. PUBLIC COMMENTS NONE STAFF COMMENTS Mr. De Gange informed the DRC that he has received two sign applications (Consignment Etc and Java Junction) in which the applicants have stressed an element of urgency and inquired about a Special DRC Meeting. He inquired whether the DRC would consider holding a Special Meeting. A brief discussion was held on the next scheduled meeting being two weeks away, amount of time required for noticing a special meeting, selecting a day and time for said meeting, and availability of Committee members. The Committee suggested the afternoon of Friday, July 21, 1995, or Wednesday, July 26, 1995, for this meeting with staff to notify. COMMISSIONER/COMMITTEE COMMENTS CommissionerfCommittee Member Sands Nothing to report. CommissionerfCommittee Member Matthies Nothing to report. CommissionerfCommittee Member Wilsey Informed the Commission that Richard Bullard has submitted a letter resigning his appointment to the Planning Commission. This letter of resignation has been scheduled for acceptance by City Council on July 25, 1995. In the interim, will be acting as Chairman until Council decides whether to appoint someone to complete his term. He then stated that Richard will be missed and enjoyed working with him. Commissioner/Chairman Metze Referred to the Union 76 project and complimented staff on condi- tion number 13 , with regard to window areas remaining unobscured. This is something that I brought up a couple of months ago regarding mitigation measures and checklist and hoping to hear something back on. PAGE FOUR - DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE MEETING - JULY 19 , 1995 Community Development Director Leslie explained that in putting together condition number 13 staff thought it better to leave it open and say whatever the Police Department was comfortable with rather than trying to go with a percentage. As far as the checklist, the Police Department has informed us that they have such a checklist or information and we are waiting to receive a copy from them, so that we can turn it into a handout, available at the Planning Department counter. Commissioner Metze asked if this would be given to developers and whether they would be notified that this is something we would be looking at. Community Development Director Leslie explained that staff was proposing a handout that would be a suggestion or advisory. In addition, we could bring it to Planning Commission for review and the Commission could consider what items they want to make as standard conditions of approval on residential projects in the future. Commissioner Metze stated this could also be applied to commercial projects, and maybe there is something that can be done at this level to secure certain things and reduce problems. He indicated it was an excellent idea to bring this back before the Commission for consideration of what should be put in as conditions. ADJOURNMENT MOVED BY METZE, SECONDED BY SANDS AND APPROVED UNANIMOUSLY TO ADJOURNED THE DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE AT 8 : 10 P.M. APPROVED, cc-vtl1 '141� 1� Daniel Metze Chairman Respectfully s, bmitted, inda Grinc;staff � Recording Secretary MINUTES SPECIAL DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE WEDNESDAY, JULY 26, 1995 The Special Design Review Committee Meeting was called to order at 4:49 p.m. ROLL CALL PRESENT: COMMITTEE MEMBERS: SANDS, WILSEY AND METZE ABSENT: COMMITTEE MEMBERS: MATTHIES Also present was Associate Planner De Gange. PUBLIC COMMENTS NONE DESIGN APPLICATIONS 1. Window Signage - Consignments, Etc. - 102 South Main Street - Jacqueline K. Burch Mr. De Gange explained the request is to paint two window signs on the right and left main display windows at 102 South Main Street. The signs measure approximately 18 square feet and will occupy between 45 and 50% of the window face. The sign consists of gold, black, and silver lettering; mauve, cranberry and forest green marbled accenting. The unit in which this business is located has 25 feet of linear frontage. The applicant would be entitled to 37. 5 square feet of signage pursuant to the established Design Standards; however, this proposal includes only the window sign, totaling 10 square feet, and does not count against the total allowable signage. Chairman Metze commented on the area of signage for the window face and stressed the importance of the sign maker being reminded to stay within the 50% range. Ms. Burch and Mr. De Gange stated this would be relayed to the sign maker. MOVED BY SANDS, SECONDED BY WILSEY AND CARRIED BY A VOTE OF 3-0 TO APPROVE THE WINDOW SIGN FOR CONSIGNMENT ETC. AT 102 SOUTH MAIN STREET. 2 . Auto-Oriented Facade Sign and Two Window Signs - Chuckles Java Junction - 123-B North Main Street - Frank and Alice Jackson Mr. De Gange explained the request is for installation of an auto-oriented facade sign on the upper facade in the form of 30 inch letters, and two painted window signs at 123-B North Main Street. The signs are described as follows: Auto Oriented Facade Sign: This sign consists of 30 inch individual channel letters spelling out the word "CHUCKLES". The letters are to be burnt orange with black trim and measure 25. 5 square feet. Right Window Sian: This sign consists of burnt orange and black lettering with a cream colored background accenting for one of the rows of lettering, measuring approximately 9 square feet. This sign composes approximately 36% of the window face. Left Window Sign: This sign consists of the business's logo which is a caricature of a large coffee bean dressed in western attire. This figure measures approximately 8 square feet and comprises 32% of the window face. The color scheme for the figure includes gray for the cowboy hat, beige for the face, red for the shirt and mouth, blue for the pants, and brown for the barrel on which the figure sits. PAGE TWO -- SPECIAL DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE MEETING - JULY 25, 1995 The unit in which this business is located has 18 feet of linear frontage. The applicant would be entitled to 27 square feet of signage on the facade pursuant to the established Design Standards, and window signage does not count against the total allowable signage. Mr. De Gange further explained that these signs meet the Design Standards for the Historic Elsinore Overlay District with respect to size, style of lettering and color with the exception the coloring being used for lettering on the right window sign. Also, it is questionable whether the standards would permit the colors proposed for the figure on the left display window. However, there are provisions built into the standards for use of colors secondary to the main lettering, and universally recognized symbols or logos. Mr. Jackson stated he agreed with staff recommendation. There was general discussion on the proposed colors for the left and right window signage. It was the consensus of the Committee that the caricature illustrated on the left window sign is the applicant's logo. The applicant agreed to select an approved color either black, gold, white or silver for the right window signage. MOVED BY SANDS, SECONDED BY WILSEY AND CARRIED BY A VOTE OF 3-0 TO APPROVE THE S I GNAGE FOR CHUCKLES JAVA JUNCTION AT 12 3-B NORTH MAIN STREET WITH A CONDITION THAT THE BURNT ORANGE COLORING BEING PROPOSED FOR THE MAIN LETTERING ON THE RIGHT WINDOW SIGN, BE REPLACED WITH EITHER BLACK, GOLD, SILVER OR WHITE COLOR AS STIPULATED WITHIN THE DESIGN STANDARDS, SUBJECT TO THE APPROVAL OF THE STAFF LIAISON. BUSINESS LICENSE APPLICATIONS NONE ADJOURNMENT THE DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE ADJOURNED AT 5: 09 P.M. A PROVED, Daniel Metze Chairman Res ctfully submitted, Linda Grindstaff Recording Secretary MINUTES REGULAR DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 2, 1995 The Design Review Committee Meeting was called to order at 8: 17 p.m. ROLL CALL PRESENT: COMMITTEE MEMBERS: SANDS, MATTHIES, WILSEY, METZE ABSENT: COMMITTEE MEMBERS: NONE MINUTE ACTION Chairman Metze noted that the two sets of minutes should be acted upon individually. MOVED BY WILSEY, SECONDED BY MATTHIES AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE TO APPROVE THE DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE MEETING OF JULY 19, 1995. MOVED BY SANDS, SECONDED BY WILSEY AND CARRIED BY A 3-0 VOTE WITH MATTHIES ABSTAINING TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF THE SPECIAL DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE MEETING OF JULY 26, 1995. DESIGN APPLICATIONS NONE. BUSINESS APPLICATIONS 1. Enchanted Treasures - 169 North Main Street - Maniscalco Zeoli and Davis. Associate Planner De Gange explained that this is a proposal to review and approve a business license to operate an antiques and collectibles business at 169 N. Main Street (Enchanted Treasures) . He further explained that this building previously housed an antiques and collectible business which was Enchanted Castle and the applicants proposes to take over the lease of the building where they had previously only been renting space. He noted that this use is consistent with those uses allowed in the C-1 and C-O zoning districts and is not prohibited by the Historic Elsinore Design Standards. He stated that there is currently ten other antique and collectible businesses in operation within Planning Area 1 of the Historic Overlay District and the majority of the businesses in the immediate vicinity of this proposed business are retail and service commercial and restaurant oriented uses. Associate Planner De Gange stated that due to the fact that this use is consistent with the zoning and is compatible with the current existing uses within the immediate vicinity, it is recommended that the DRC approve a business license application at 169 N. Main Street. He further stated that however, because this business proposes to sell antiques and collectibles it is also recommended that a condition of approval be placed to ensure that no used clothing and appliances, large or small, or any other items normally found in a "thrift store" be permitted to be sold. He explained that this condition has previously been imposed on other antique and collectible businesses approved in the recent past and it is also recommended that a condition be placed on the license which states that all signage must meet the criteria established within the Design Standards and is subject to the review and approval of the DRC. Chairman Metze noted that the applicant was not present. PAGE TWO - DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE MINUTES - AUGUST 20 1995 MOVED BY WILSEY, SECONDED BY SANDS AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE TO APPROVE THE BUSINESS LICENSE APPLICATION FOR 169 N. MAIN STREET - ENCHANTED TREASURES WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITIONS: CONDITIONS 1. No used clothing and appliances (large or small) , or any other items normally found in a "thrift store" (a prohibited use) be permitted to be sold. 2 . All signage must meet the criteria established within the Design Standards and is subject to the review and approval of the DRC. STAFF COMMENTS Community Development Director Leslie stated that he would be going on vacation during the week of August 7, 1995. COMMISSION/COMMITTEE COMMENTS Commissioner Committee Member Matthies Nothing to report. Commissioner/Committee Member Metze Stated that he would like to see the City have some control over the CUP for alcohol and if there is a continual problem their CUP can be revoked to prevent the further sale of alcohol. Commissioner/Committee Member Matthies asked if that would be stepping on the toes of the police. Mr. Metze stated that it would be assisting the police rather than interfering with their duty. Community Development Director Leslie stated that this could be done through an amendment to the zoning code for the sale of alcohol and not just in conjunction with gas stations, but in any store. He explained that it is common to have this type of ordinance to address the sale of alcohol. Commissioner/Committee Member Metze asked if the Planning staff could obtain information from various cities and the County in regard to their regulation regarding the sale of alcohol. Community Development Director Leslie stated that the Police Department as the appropriate authority can dispute any license for the sale of alcohol due to a high crime rate in the area. Commissioner/Committee Member Wilsey stated that the Planning Commission has the authority to start this type of procedure and he would be interested in other opinions. Commissioner/Committee Member Metze stated that he is also interested in finding out if the City could have the authority to take action if the business is in violation of the sale of alcohol. Community Development Director Leslie stated that he would bring back information to the Planning Commission in regard to this matter. Commissioner/Committee Member Sands stated that in the City where he was a previous Planning Commissioner, they did have control and exercised that control by pulling the license of the business which was in violation and he will get information from that City. Commissioner/Committee Member Wilsey Thanked the board for their confidence in appointing him as Chairman of the Planning Commission. Noted that the Planning Commission wishes to give aid to small businesses and work with them to assist with the development of their business. PAGE THREE - DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE MINUTES - AUGUST 2, 1995 PUBLIC COMMENTS Richard Paul Davenport, 17957 Ryan Ave, explained that he is trying to get a temporary power pole to aid in construction on this site and he is having a problem with the fees. Community Development Director Leslie stated that the installation of a temporary power pole does require a permit and there are fees associated with this and is acquired over the counter in the Building Department. He instructed Mr. Davenport to see the Building Department. ADJOURNMENT MOVED BY MATTHIES, SECONDED BY METZE AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE TO ADJOURN THE DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE AT 8:30 P.M. I APPROVED: DANIEL METZE, CHAIRMAN Re ectfull b ttea aAdria L. B yning, eputy C y Clerk MINUTES REGULAR DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 16, 1995 The Design Review Committee Meeting was called to order at 7:40 p.m. ROLL CALL PRESENT: COMMITTEE MEMBERS: SANDS, MATTHIES, WILSEY, METZE ABSENT: COMMITTEE MEMBERS: NONE MINUTE ACTION MOVED BY WILSEY, SECONDED BY MATTHIES AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE TO APPROVE THE DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE MEETING OF AUGUST 2, 1995. DESIGN APPLICATIONS NONE. BUSINESS APPLICATIONS MOVED BY METZE, SECONDED BY WILSEY AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE TO ADD BUSINESS APPLICATION FOR ROMONO CLASSICS - 100 N. MAIN STREET TO THE DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE AGENDA. 1. Romono Classics - 100 N. Main Street. Associate Planner De Gange explained that this is a proposal to review and approve a business license to operate an antiques and collectibles business at 100 N. Main Street (Romano Classics) . He stated that it is recommended that the standard two conditions be utilized. These conditions are as follows: 1) Any used merchandize, other than what is considered a collectable or antique be prohibited; 2) Signage will be submitted to the Design Review Committee for their review and approval and in conformance with the design standards. Chairman Metze asked for the applicant to address the Committee. Mrs. Barbara Romano, 15004 Vista View, stated that the store has been empty for six months and they now have their memorabilia to place in the store. She explained that their store will feature memorabilia from the 1150's" such as gas pumps, lights, signs, items from old diners, etc. She feels that her store will be done in good taste and offer something different. Chairman Metze asked if Mrs. Romano was aware that she is in a Historical District. Mrs. Romano stated that she was. Committee Member Wilsey asked if they would be doing their restoration work on site. Mrs. Romono stated that they will not be doing restoration work on site, but rather at their home. She explained that all of the items are in original condition and most of the work is cleaning which is done at their home where they have the proper equipment. Committee Member Matthies stated that she was glad to see this business on Main Street. MOVED BY WILSEY, SECONDED BY SANDS AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE TO APPROVE THE BUSINESS LICENSE FOR ROMONO CLASSICS LOCATED AT 100 NORTH MAIN STREET WITH TWO CONDITIONS AS FOUND IN THE MINUTES. PAGE TWO - DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE MINUTES - AUGUST 16, 1995 STAFF COMMENTS None. COMMISSION/COMMITTEE COMMENTS Commissioner/Committee Member Matthies Nothing to report. Commissioner/Committee Member Metze Nothing to report. Commissioner/Committee Member Sands Nothing to report. Commissioner/Committee Member Wilsey Announced that he will be on vacation at the next meeting. PUBLIC COMMENTS None. ADJOURNMENT MOVED BY MATTHIES, SECONDED BY METZE AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE TO ADJOURN THE DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE AT 7: 50 P.M. APPROVED: DANIEL METZE, CHAIRMAN RespecWBrning, bm'tted, Adria put, ty Clerk MINUTES REGULAR DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 6, 1995 The Design Review Committee Meeting was called to order at 7:13 p.m. ROLL CALL PRESENT: COMMITTEE MEMBERS: SANDS, MATTHIES, ALLENBACH, AND METZE ABSENT: COMMITTEE MEMBERS: WILSEY MINUTE ACTION Moved by Sands, Seconded by Matthies and carried by a vote of 3-0 with Allenbach abstaining to approve the Minutes of August 16, 1995, as submitted. PUBLIC COMMENTS Deferred to end of meeting. DESIGN APPLICATIONS 1. 105 North Main Street - Guadalajara Outdoor Seating Area (Facade Refurbishment, Awnings, and Fencing) - Ricardo Solano Associate Planner De Gange explained the request is for the design of an outdoor seating area which includes modification to the building, 103 North Main, installation of awnings and wrought iron fencing which will be located within and near Gediman Park. He then provided a brief history on the lease agreement approved by City Council, and the stipulation that the design of the outdoor seating area (site plan) and modifications be reviewed and approved by the DRC. He explained the proposal includes the following: Fencing: A six foot high wrought iron fence enclosing the majority of Gediman Park. The site plan included in the packet illustrates the exact location. Building Modifications: Construction of a doorway leading from the building at 103 North Main to the outdoor seating area and a window. Awnings: Installation of awnings, replace awning along the front facade of the building at 103 North Main and above the doorway into the outdoor eating area within Gediman Park. Both awnings will be the same style and coloring as the existing awnings at 105 North Main. The color of the existing and proposed awnings is a teal/turquoise with coral or salmon colored stripes. Associate Planner De Gange highlighted staff's concerns with regard to the patio area meeting ADA regulations, limited area for outdoor seating; meeting Building/Fire Codes; potential for outdoor eating, and; items not mentioned in the lease agreement. He then explained the Historic Elsinore Design Standards allow limited "cafe-style seating" as an outright permitted use; however, the Zoning Code requires a Conditional Use Permit for restaurants with outside "eating" areas. However, staff feels this meets the intent of the goals, objectives and permitted uses of the Historic District. Chairman Metze asked if any correspondence was received. The Secretary responded in the negative. Chairman Metze noted for the record that the applicant was not present. PAGE TWO - DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE MINUTES - SEPTEMBER 6, 1995 Committee Member Sands stated since the Historic Elsinore Design Standards allow limited "cafe-style seating" as an outright permitted use, and the applicant has stated their intended use of the patio area, he does not feel the CUP is necessary. He stated that his concern regarding the gate has been addressed, and understands this gate will be an outside key lock, allowing certain individuals access from the outside, and is to remain unlocked during business hours, but access restricted from the outside into the patio area with the key lock which is necessary. Community Development Director Leslie informed the DRC of his discussion with the applicant and the applicant indicated that it was not his intention for this to be a full dinning area-- extension of the dinning room--more of a beverage area where people could order an appetizer, wait for table, relax after a meal, enjoy a smoke (since new laws have prohibited smoking inside) , but to say there will not be any eating outside isn't entirely true. He then explained the applicant indicated to staff, within the last few days, their concern with the Condi- tions of Approval. Condition 4 , maintenance of landscape/ irrigation system, they think they will be able to maintain this, and this may be possible--basic trimming of shrubbery, weeding, keeping the planter areas neat and feeding the plants--but the irrigation is tied into an overall system and the City will control the irrigation. Condition 5, trash enclosure, they are under the impression that the agreement was that they would put it in if it was determined to be needed. The agreement states they will put a trash enclosure in, and if this is not acceptable to them they will have to take this up with City Council if this item is to go to City Council for final action or as an appeal. Condition 9, reimbursement for all park improvements permanently removed. Chairman Metze asked if condition 4 does not allow for this-- not saying anything specific or setting a price, but to be worked out. Community Development Director Leslie stated we could stay true to the condition and work out a compromise. Associate Planner De Gange asked to address condition 9, as he had a conversation with Community Services Director Sapp today, before 5: 00 p.m. , and this condition was included at his request. Mr. Sapp's concern was that if the applicant was to remove improvements then the City should be reimbursed the costs incurred for said improvements. Mr. Sapp has stated; however, that if and when the park is returned to public use and if the applicant resumes or brings the condition of the park back to its original state this would be sufficient. Based on this it is recommended that condition 9 be deleted. Chairman Metze asked if condition 9 relates back to condition 1. Associate Planner De Gange responded that it does and also to condition 11. Community Development Director Leslie stated there has been discussion as to whether this item will go forward to City Council. The City Council Minutes regarding the lease agree- ment seems to indicate that Council is expecting this to come back before them, but unclear if referring to the final agree- ment or the final agreement and the design. Therefore, action taken could be in the form of a recommendation to City Council . This proposal is borderline--not new construction and not what typically falls into substantial alteration, addition or expansion. Chairman Metze inquired whether design review proposals go forward to City Council. Community Development Director Leslie explained that all commercial design review for new construction, significant alteration or expansion go forward to City Council. PAGE THREE - DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE MINUTES - SEPTEMBER 6, 1995 Committee Member Matthies stated she had no comments, every- thing covered. Committee Member Allenbach stated there are no provisions covering sound or music, asked whether this was contemplated. Associate Planner De Gange stated staff had not considered this nor was it requested by the applicant, and suggested adding a condition to address this. Community Development Director Leslie referenced the Noise Ordinance; however, would have to research to see how this applies. Chairman Metze stated this may not go forward to City Council, so it is possible this could be the final action. He then inquired whether any request for music should come back for a pubic hearing. Community Development Director Leslie stated a condition could be added requiring the request for "live/canned music" to be presented to the DRC for approval. He explained that there is nothing in the Code that states this type of activity must have a public hearing. A condition could be added that "live/canned music" would only be allowed on weekends. There was discussion with regard to adding condition 17 to address sound/music and whether the frequency and hours should be limited, volume levels, whether any outside sound system, entertainment or music should receive DRC approval; whether outside canned music and paging should be prohibited. Chairman Metze suggested condition 17 stipulate that any outside sound system or music receive separate DRC approval prior to allowing it. Committee Member Allenbach commented on the elimination of condition 9, as it refers back to condition 1 and 11; however, there is no provision to prevent the applicant from removing the existing plants and replacing them and this could be a concern. He then commented on the park being returned to its original condition and asked whether the applicant's word is taken or whether bonds are required. Community Development Director Leslie stated that the City would require the park to be returned to its original condition if and when the applicant removed the door leading into the park. As long as the door is there the break in the planter will remain. A permit is required to remove the door and staff will not issue the permit unless they agree to replace the planter, therefore it was felt that a cash deposit or bond would be unnecessary. Community Development Director Leslie suggested that condition 4 be amended to include language that there will be no other modification of the landscaping within the planter areas allowed except as specifically allowed in any subsequent agreement regarding maintenance. Chairman Metze stated condition 4 should be amended to include this verbiage. Committee Member Matthies commented that the City provides annual plantings, during Christmas season poinsettias are planted and the Christmas Tree is placed on the far corner. Community Development Director Leslie explained this falls back to the maintenance. Part of the maintenance is what is being discussed, switching annual plants. If the applicant is to take part of the maintenance responsibility staff would insist that it be done under City supervision, and the agreement states that it has to be provided in a size/type acceptable to the City. Chairman Metze stated he feels this is a limited "cafe-style seating" and falls within the Historic Elsinore Design Standards. Agrees with assisting the applicant in meeting target dates for opening, and placing the authority of review and approval of the trash enclosure with the Community PAGE FOUR - DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE MINUTES - SEPTEMBER 6, 1995 Development Director. He then stated that trash enclosures along Main Street have been brought up by businessmen and this is considered a problem and condition 5 should remain. Committee Member Sands asked that proposed condition 17 be reiterated. Chairman Metze responded that proposed condi- ition 17 requires any outside sound system or music to receive DRC approval. Committee Member Sands asked if this could be referred to the Community Development Director rather than back to the DRC. Community Development Director Leslie stated this could be done; however, DRC Members had concern with how often, volume levels, how late this could occur, and would prefer that this come back before the DRC. He also explained that if this goes to City Council the applicant can explain what they intend to do and Council could modify or remove this condition. Committee Member Allenbach commented on cafe-style seating, assumes this means tables and chairs made of metal . Community Development Director Leslie responded in the affirmative. Committee Member Matthies inquired about advertising/signage for the tables in the outdoor seating area. Chairman Metze stated that condition 14 addresses this issue. Community Development Director Leslie explained the plan indicates three tables and umbrellas, and the applicant will have to obtain Building Department approval for fence instal- lation and placement of tables. The Building Department will require a plan showing the placement of tables to ensure that adequate access is provided. At this time, staff will require the number and type of tables to be provided. MOVED BY MATTHIES, SECONDED BY SANDS AND CARRIED BY A VOTE OF 4-0 TO APPROVE THE DESIGN OF THE PROPOSED OUTDOOR SEATING AREA FOR GUADALAJARA'S WITHIN GEDIMAN PARK BASED ON THE FINDINGS THAT THIS PROPOSAL IS IN SUBSTANTIAL CONFORMANCE WITH THE GOALS, OBJECTIVES AND STANDARDS OF THE GENERAL PLAN AND THE HISTORIC ELSINORE DESIGN STANDARDS AND SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL LISTED IN THE STAFF REPORT WITH THE FOLLOWING AMENDMENTS: Condition No. 4 : Since the Gediman Park area is on a Maxicom irrigation system the City shall continue maintenance of the irrigation system including those areas enclosed within the fenced area. Under City supervision (to the satisfaction of the City) it may be possible for the appli- cant to assume maintenance responsibili- ties of the actual landscaping within the planter areas. The City and the appli- cant shall enter into a subsequent agreement which defines the terms for these maintenance responsibilities and which includes all various details. All maintenance retained by the City pursuant to the agreement shall be paid by the applicant in addition to and as part of their lease fee payment. Condition No. 9: The Gity shall be rlfaburs-ed fer all pa imprevements whieh will be permanent! DELETED. Condition No. 17 : DRC approval is required prior to the installation and use of any outside sound system or the allowance of any music in the patio area. PAGE FIVE - DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE MINUTES - SEPTEMBER 6, 1995 BUSINESS APPLICATIONS 2. 119 South Main Street - Lake Elsinore Real Estate Real Estate Consulting) - Daniel De Simone Associate Planner De Gange explained this is a proposal to review and approve a business license for a real estate consulting office at 119 South Main Street. This business involves real estate sales, research, marketing and consulting services. Chairman Metze noted for the record that the applicant was not present. There being no discussion at the table, Chairman Metze called for a motion. MOVED BY SANDS, SECONDED BY MATTHIES AND CARRIED BY A VOTE OF 4-0 TO APPROVE THE BUSINESS LICENSE FOR LAKE ELSINORE REAL ESTATE LOCATED AT 119 SOUTH MAIN STREET WITH A CONDITION PLACED ON THE BUSINESS LICENSE TO ENSURE THAT ALL SIGNAGE MUST MEET THE CRITERIA ESTABLISHED WITHIN THE DESIGN STANDARDS AND IS SUBJECT TO THE REVIEW AND APPROVAL OF THE DRC. 3 . 110 South Main Street - Herencia De Aztlan Foundation (Citizenship Testing and Immigration Services) - Jess Nieto and Lauro Ruiz Associate Planner De Gange explained this is a proposal to review and approve a business license to operate a citizenship testing center and associated immigration facilitation services and classes. The proposed hours of operation are from 9: 00 a.m. to 8:00 p.m. Monday through Friday and 10:00 a.m. to 2 :00 p.m. on Saturday. The applicant has stated that 20 people would be the maximum occupancy during testing or classes, including office personnel, testing proctors and citizenship applicants. He further explained this use is not specifically addressed within the C-1 or C-0 Zoning Districts; however, these districts allow as outright permitted uses schools for dance, music arts, crafts and photography. A more general type of school would require a Conditional Use Permit. Because a significant portion of this business would be consulting services for immigration processing assistance (office use) and the educational portion (classes and testing) is limited to a specific purpose it would appear the proposed use may fall into the type of office/school use that is an outright permitted use. Chairman Metze noted for the record that the applicant was not present. Committee Member Allenbach asked if a floor plan had been submitted, whether people would be waiting inside or outside and about enforcement. Associate Planner De Gange stated a site plan had not been submitted, but is a requirement. Staff will require the applicant to submit a site plan before final approval of the application. Community Development Director Leslie explained that DRC approval is not necessarily the final action. The Building Department has to perform a site inspection and will have to be provided with plans if any modifications are proposed, and they will have to be informed as to the use of the facility. The condition is based on Building/Fire Department occupancy loads. If the occupancy load is exceeded then people would have to be seated outside or leave. Enforcement is always a problem, but the condition does protect the City's liability to some extent. Chairman Metze commented that if complaints were received some type action would be taken. Community Development Director PAGE SIX - DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE MINUTES - SEPTEMBER 6, 1995 Leslie responded in the affirmative, and explained that a Notice of Violation would be served. Chairman Metze stated he concurs with staff that this falls into the category of a office/school use. MOVED BY SANDS, SECONDED BY MATTHIES AND CARRIED BY A 4-0 VOTE TO APPROVE THE BUSINESS LICENSE FOR HERENCIA DE AZTLAN FOUNDATION (CITIZENSHIP TESTING AND IMMIGRATION SERVICES) LOCATED AT 110 NORTH MAIN STREET WITH CONDITIONS PLACED ON THE BUSINESS LICENSE TO ENSURE THAT ALL SIGNAGE MUST MEET THE CRITERIA ESTABLISHED WITHIN THE DESIGN STANDARDS AND SUBJECT TO THE REVIEW AND APPROVAL OF THE DRC, AND THAT THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF PERSONS PERMITTED ON THE PREMISES AT ANY ONE GIVEN TIME INCLUDING OFFICE PERSONNEL, TESTING PROCTORS AND CITIZENSHIP APPLICANTS SHALL BE 20 OR LESS BASED ON BUILDING AND FIRE DEPARTMENT OCCUPANCY LOAD LIMITS. PUBLIC COMMENTS Mariana Mohylyn, 305 West Sumner, commented on the number of vacant stores in the business section downtown and there being too many impositions, restrictions, constrictions and blockades. -She commented on the free enterprise spirit and the opportunity to service people in this area, and signage on Main Street. She then asked that additional information be provided to her on the proposed immigration business. Hearing no further requests to speak the PUBLIC COMMENTS Section was closed. STAFF COMMENTS Community Development Director Leslie stated the Commissioners have received, this evening, a copy of the flyer from Elsinore Valley Municipal Water District regarding the Old Town Waterline Replace- ment Project. He then welcomed Commissioner Allenbach. COMMISSION COMMITTEE COMMENTS Commissioner/Committee Member Sands Welcomed Commissioner Allenbach. Commissioner Committee Member Matthies Welcomed Commissioner Allenbach. Commissioner Committee Member Allenbach Nothing to report. Commissioner/Committee Member Metze Welcomed Commissioner Allenbach. The Historic Elsinore District is a special district and the guidelines were set up by the City, business people and property owners. Also, in my walks down Main Street and talking with business owners, it has be relayed to the Downtown Business Association (DBA) that they can come and talk with the DRC at any time about making changes. Cannot make any promises, but if there is anything that the DBA feel is really hindering them, causing problems, they could bring it to the DRC and it can be discussed and see where it goes with the intent of the Historic District. PAGE SEVEN - DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE MINUTES - SEPTEMBER 6, 1995 Commissioner/Committee_Member Wilsey Absent. ADJOURNMENT MOVED BY SANDS, SECONDED BY MATTHIES AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE TO ADJOURN THE DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE AT 8: 10 P.M. APPROVED Daniel Metze, Chairman Respectfully submitted, Linda Grindstaff Recording Secretary MINUTES REGULAR DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 20, 1995 The Design Review Committee Meeting was called to order at 8 :09 p.m. ROLL CALL PRESENT: COMMITTEE MEMBERS: SANDS, ALLENBACH, METZE AND WILSEY ABSENT: COMMITTEE MEMBERS: MATTHIES MINUTE ACTION Moved by Sands, Seconded by Allenbach and carried by a vote of 3-0 with Wilsey abstaining to approve the Minutes of September 6, 1995, as submitted. PUBLIC COMMENTS Deferred to end of meeting. DESIGN APPLICATIONS NONE BUSINESS APPLICATIONS NONE PUBLIC COMMENTS There being no request to speak the PUBLIC COMMENTS Section was closed. STAFF COMMENTS Community Development Director Leslie provided an update on the following: 1. Air Touch Cellular received approval to erect two cellular antennas back in April. An application from Pacific Bell has been submitted for the erection of three towers, 75 feet in height. Staff will scrutinize this proposal in order to minimize the impact of these antennas. 2 . The action taken by the Design Review Committee on Guadalajara's patio expansion is final . The applicant is preparing plans for submittal to the Building Department. 3 . Summerhill tract, staff is working with various agents/developers to ascertain what is needed to develop this tract. 4 . Staff approved a revision to the plans for Vons, reducing the size of the building to 53, 120 square feet. The original approval was for a 62 , 075 square foot building to be occupied by Expo Market. It was determined the amendment is in substantial conformance with the original approval and considered a minor alteration; therefore, subject to the discretion of the Community Development Manager Director. 5 . The Hall Annexation is scheduled for hearing before LAFCO next Thursday, September 28, 1995. 6 . Staff is trying to schedule a meeting with the County to discuss the Trail System, and will inform the Commission once set. 7 . All items are on order for the handicap lift. PAGE TWO - DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE MINUTES - SEPTEMBER 20, 1995 COMMISSION/COMMITTEE COMMENTS Commissioner/Committee Member, Sands Nothing to report. CommissionerZCommittee Member Allenbach Nothing to report. Commissioner/Committee Member Metze Nothing to report. Commissioner/Committee Member Wilsey Nothing to report. Commissioner Committee Member Matthies Absent. ADJOURNMENT MOVED BY METZE, SECONDED BY ALLENBACH AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE TO ADJOURN THE DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE AT 8:24 P.M. APPROVED r Daniel Metze, Chairman Respectfully submitted, Linda Grindstaff Recording Secretary MINUTES OF LAKE ELSINORE DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE OCTOBER 4 , 1995 THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE LAKE ELSINORE DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE SCHEDULED FOR OCTOBER 4, 1995, WAS CALLED FOR LACK OF AGENDA ITEMS. Respectfully submitted, Linda Grindstaff Recording Secretary MINUTES REGULAR DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE WEDNESDAY, OCTOBER 18 , 1995 The Design Review Committee Meeting was called to order at 7:29 p.m. by Chairman Metze. ROLL CALL PRESENT: COMMITTEE MEMBERS: SANDS, ALLENBACH, MATTHIES, METZE AND WILSEY ABSENT: COMMITTEE MEMBERS: NONE MINUTE ACTION Moved by Wilsey, Seconded by Sands and carried by a vote of 4-0 with Matthies abstaining to approve the Minutes of September 20, 1995 as submitted. The Minutes of October 4, 1995 were received and ordered filed. PUBLIC COMMENTS Deferred to end of meeting. DESIGN APPLICATIONS NONE BUSINESS APPLICATIONS NONE PUBLIC COMMENTS There being no request to speak the PUBLIC COMMENTS Section was closed. STAFF COMMENTS Community Development Director Leslie provided an update on the following: 1. Planning Division has received an application for Design Review of a 126-unit apartment complex on Casino Drive. There has been interest expressed by Council to have a Study Session. A Joint Study Session has been tentatively scheduled for October 31, 1995, at 9:30 a.m. The City Clerk is confirming the Study Session with Council members and once confirmed a notice will be sent. This project is tentatively scheduled for the Planning Commission meeting of December 6th. 2 . Staff had a meeting last week with the County Park Advisory Commission and the County Park Planner to discuss trails within and surrounding the City. One reason for this meeting was to discuss future trail needs in the area of the outlet center expansion on the east side of the freeway. The discussion included trails City-wide and the surrounding County area. The meeting was very productive and it seems like there will be opportunities for cooperation between the City and County in developing this Master Plan of Trails. 3 . Arco AM/PM and Tentative Tract Map 28198 are scheduled for the Planning Commission Meeting of November 1st. 4 . Planning Division has been contacted by the Lake Elsinore Cemetery District regarding expansion of the cemetery on Collier Avenue. PAGE TWO - DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE MINUTES - OCTOBER 18, 1995 5. Planning Division has been contacted by Citation Homes about the necessary approvals to build out 8 vacant lots in the Lake Terrace tract off Mountain and Running Deer. 6. Hall Annexation, this application went before LAFCO on September 28, 1995, and was continued to February 1996. The purpose of the continuance was to allow LAFCO and the County to work with the City in adding more unincorporated territory to the annexation. Meetings are planned with LAFCO staff and Supervisor Buster's office. Chairman Wilsey inquired about the race track and water park. Community Development Director Leslie stated a meeting was held with race track representatives today and they continue to talk with various entities regarding financing and lining up races. Presently, staff is working on the environmental documentation. Plans have not yet been submitted to the Planning Division for the water park and they are still working on financing. Community Development Director Leslie stated the outlet center expansion is moving ahead rapidly and they are working on a specific plan amendment. An agreement for financing assistance was presented to City Council at their last meeting. Commissioner Metze inquired about the status of the Red Lion Inn. Community Development Director Leslie stated that a meeting was held Monday. Red Lion is still interested and they are expanding the project. COMMISSION/COMMITTEE COMMENTS Commissioner Committee Member Sands Nothing to report. Commissioner Committee Member Allenbach Nothing to report. Commissioner/Committee Member Metze Nothing to report. Commissioner Committee Member Matthies Nothing to report. Commissioner Committee Member Wilsey Commented on the following: 1. Suggested the Commissioners make note of the Joint Study Session. 2 . Trail system, there has been much work done in the community over the years with respect to the trail system, primarily the west end. Recommended that City Council consider having staff put together a citizens' advisory committee and work with them and let them handle the plotting and planning rather than hiring outside consultants. This is how the County has handled it and this committee has been operational and successful for many years. We know that we need to coordinate with County trails and this would be a good time to involve interested community members. PAGE THREE - DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE MINUTES - OCTOBER 18, 1995 ADJOURNMENT MOVED BY SANDS, SECONDED BY METZE AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE TO ADJOURN THE DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE AT 7:45 P.M. APPROVED Daniel Metze, Chairman Resp ctfully su mitted, Linda Grin staff Recording Secretary MINUTES REGULAR DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE WEDNESDAY, NOVEMBER 1, 1995 The Design Review Committee Meeting was called to order at 7:20 p.m. by Chairman Metze. ROLL CALL PRESENT: COMMITTEE MEMBERS : SANDS, ALLENBACH, MATTHIES, METZE AND WILSEY ABSENT: COMMITTEE MEMBERS: NONE MINUTE ACTION Moved by Wilsey, Seconded by Sands and carried by a vote of 5-0 to approve the Minutes of October 18, 1995 as submitted. PUBLIC COMMENTS Deferred to end of meeting. DESIGN APPLICATIONS 1. Auto-Oriented Facade Si na e for Enchanted Treasures (Antiques and Collectibles) - 169 North Main - Paul Davis Associate Planner De Gange explained the request is to install four 21 x 81 (16 square feet each, 64 square feet total) painted wooden panels to be placed on the upper facade of the building at 169 North Main Street, and presented a photograph and colored rendering. The lettering and border will be forest green and soft pink for the sign face. This signage meets the Design Standards for the Historic Elsinore Overlay District with respect to size, style of lettering and color. He further explained that vinyl lettering has been adhered to the display windows of the business without DRC approval and recommended this lettering be removed. Chairman Metze noted for the record that the applicant was not present. He then asked for discussion at the table. There being no discussion he called for a motion. MOVED BY WILSEY, SECONDED BY MATTHIES AND CARRIED BY A VOTE OF 5- 0 TO APPROVE THE PROPOSED SIGNAGE AT 169 NORTH MAIN STREET WITH THE STIPULATION THAT ALL OTHER SIGNAGE WHICH DOES NOT HAVE DRC APPROVAL BE REMOVED. 2 . Auto-Oriented Facade Signaae for Ramano Classics - 100 North Main - Barbara and Victor Ramano Associate Planner De Gange explained the request is to install three 1. 3 ' x 6' painted wooden panels (approximately 8 square feet for each panel) . The front elevation will have a total of 16 square feet of signage and the side will have 8 square feet. Two of the panels are to be placed in the recesses of the front facade with the other within the recess on the side of the building. All three signs are to be wooden painted panels, the lettering will be burnt orange with forest green outline, and white for the sign face. The color scheme has been chosen to match the existing awning. This signage meets the Design Standards for the Historic Elsinore Overlay District with respect to size, style of lettering and color. Chairman Metze noted for the record that the applicant was not present. He then asked for discussion at the table. A brief discussion was held on the location for the third sign. MOVED BY MATTHIES, SECONDED BY SANDS AND CARRIED BY A VOTE OF 5-0 TO APPROVE THE SIGNAGE FOR RAMANO CLASSICS AT 100 NORTH MAIN STREET. PAGE TWO - DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE MINUTES - NOVEMBER 1, 1995 BUSINESS LICENSE APPLICATIONS 3 . 136 North Main Street - Rios De Aqua Viva Christian (Christian Book Store and Gifts Associate Planner De Gange explained this is a request for a business license to operate a Christian bookstore and gift shop at 136 North Main Street. Previously this building housed Blue Moon Antiques and Collectibles. The use is consistent with those uses allowed in the C-1 and C-O Zoning Districts and is not prohibited by the Historic Elsinore Design Standards. Currently, no other business of this type is in operation within Planning Area 1 of the Historic Elsinore Overlay District. Chairman Metze noted for the record that the applicant was not present. He then asked for discussion at the table. Committee member Wilsey asked if staff had discussed with the applicant processing signage concurrently. Associate Planner De Gange stated this was discussed and the applicant is still in the early stages, ensuring the lease and approvals before expending funds for signage. MOVED BY WILSEY, SECONDED BY MATTHIES AND CARRIED BY A VOTE OF 5- 0 TO APPROVE THE BUSINESS LICENSE APPLICATION FOR RIOS DE AGUA VIVA-CHRISTIAN BOOKSTORE AND GIFT SHOP AT 136 NORTH MAIN STREET WITH CONDITIONS ADDED TO THE BUSINESS LICENSE TO ENSURE THAT NO USED CLOTHING AND APPLIANCES (LARGE OR SMALL) , OR ANY OTHER ITEMS NORMALLY FOUND IN A THRIFT STORE (A PROHIBITED USE) ARE PERMITTED TO BE SOLD, AND THAT ALL SIGNAGE MUST MEET THE CRITERIA ESTABLISHED WITHIN THE DESIGN STANDARDS AND IS SUBJECT TO THE REVIEW AND APPROVAL OF THE DRC. PUBLIC COMMENTS There being no request to speak the PUBLIC COMMENTS Section was closed. STAFF COMMENTS Community Development Director Leslie stated that tomorrow occupancy for Vanity Fair, anchor for the final phase of the outlet center, should be cleared. Also, we hope to have Certificates of Occupancy issued for a number of other stores so they can open by next weekend. Associate Planner De Gange provided a brief report on the refurbish- ment of the Morton Building. He explained that the unit on top of the building is being removed and the open walkway on the side is being enclosed. These items were felt to be minor and approved administra- tively. COMMISSION/COMMITTEE COMMENTS Commissioner/Committee Member Allenbach Unocal at Grape Street, there are no sandbags for erosion and dirt is coming down onto the sidewalk and going into the gutter. Community Development Director Leslie stated he would defer this to the Engineering Department. Engineering Manager O'Donnell stated they would check into this. Commissioner/Committee Member Matthies Congratulated staff on the agenda. Commissioner/Committee Member Metze Concurred with Commissioner Matthies. Everything has been well done and the applicants have been working well with staff. PAGE THREE - DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE MINUTES - NOVEMBER 1, 1995 Commissioner/Committee Member Sands Thanked Ray O'Donnell for passing on the information about the pothole on Diamond Drive, it has been taken care of. Chairman Wilsey stated the potholes on Robb Road have not been taken care of. Commissioner Committee Member Wilse Nothing to report. ADJOURNMENT MOVED BY METZE, SECONDED BY ALLENBACH AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE TO ADJOURN THE DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE AT 7: 30 P.M. APPROVED Daniel Metze, Chairman Respectfully submitted, Linda Grindstaff Recording Secretary MINUTES OF LAKE ELSINORE DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE NOVEMBER 15, 1995 THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE LAKE ELSINORE DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE SCHEDULED FOR NOVEMBER 15, 1995, WAS CALLED FOR LACK OF AGENDA ITEMS. Respectfully submitted, Linda Grin staff Recording Secretary MINUTES REGULAR DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE WEDNESDAY, DECEMBER 6, 1995 The Design Review Committee Meeting was called to order at 7 :20 p.m. by Vice Chairwoman Matthies. ROLL CALL PRESENT: COMMITTEE MEMBERS: SANDS, ALLENBACH, MATTHIES AND WILSEY ABSENT: COMMITTEE MEMBERS: NONE MINUTE ACTION Moved by Wilsey, Seconded by Sands and carried by a vote of 4-0 to approve the Minutes of November 1, 1995 as submitted. The Minutes of November 15, 1995 were received and ordered filed. PUBLIC COMMENTS Deferred to end of meeting. DESIGN APPLICATIONS NONE BUSINESS LICENSE APPLICATIONS NONE INFORMATIONAL 1. Si_ nage__at105 _North Main Guadalajara's Mexican Restaurant, Associate Planner De Gange explained staff is seeking a consensus from the DRC on the status of this signage. After review of the case file only refurbishment of the facade, installation of awnings and fencing were mentioned. The Conditions of Approval do not address signage. The applicant is under the impression that these signs were granted approval when the expansion was approved at the September 6, 1995 meeting, since signage was indicated on the exhibit included as part of the submittal. However, this exhibit does not show the signage installed on the front elevation and it indicates that the signage is green when it is red, and does not show all the letters that have been installed. Committee Member Allenbach stated he has with him the packet of September 6, 1995, and signage was not included. Based on this would conclude that signage was not approved. Committee Member Wilsey stated we are back to the same old problems. In this instance, we have a neon sign and it came out as quality for the area and is not a negative sign. He said that he did not like the way this happened, but would be reluctant to place a hardship on any small businessman in the community because we are all struggling. He inquired whether there was any miscommunication, and said he would bring up for discussion later some changes that might be considered. At this time, and under these economic conditions, believes the sign should be approved. Committee Member Sands stated he concurs with Committee Member Wilsey. The sign looks good and if this was an oversight on the DRC's part, which I don't think so, then we should go ahead and make the approval . Committee Member Allenbach suggested a letter be sent indicating that the DRC is unhappy with the way this whole thing happened and that any, emphasize the word any, violations in the future will be dealt with in the way this probably should have been dealt with. i PAGE TWO - DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE MINUTES - DECEMBER 6, 1995 There was general discussion regarding the use of the color red for the sign (not a permitted color) , and the red color used found acceptable because of existing signage, and whether an electrical permit was required/obtained for neon signage. Committee Member Allenbach asked about feasibility of the letter. Associate Planner DeGange stated a letter could be sent if the DRC goes forward with approval, it is part of the process. Committee Member Wilsey inquired whether formal action is needed to approve the signage, or whether this would come up at a future meeting. Community Development Director Leslie suggested this item be changed from an Informational Item to a Business Item and action taken if the DRC's feels it is appropriate to approve the signage now, as opposed to finding that it was approved earlier. MOVED BY WILSEY, SECONDED BY SANDS, AND CARRIED BY A 4--0 VOTE TO MOVE THE SIGNAGE AT 105 NORTH MAIN FOR GUADALAJARA'S MEXICAN RESTAURANT FROM AN INFORMATION ITEM TO A BUSINESS ITEM AND TO APPROVE THE SIGNAGE AS INSTALLED WITH A LETTER TO BE SENT INFORMING THE APPLICANT OF THIS APPROVAL AND INDICATING THAT ANY SIGNAGE VIOLATIONS IN THE FUTURE WILL BE DEALT WITH PURSUANT TO SECTION IV, PAGE 66, OF THE HISTORIC ELSINORE DESIGN STANDARDS. PUBLIC COMMENTS There being no request to speak the PUBLIC COMMENTS Section was closed. STAFF COMMENTS Community Development Director Leslie provided an update on the following: 1. Will attend the Local Agency Formation Commission (LAFCO) hearing on December 7 , 1995, regarding the Cleveland Ridge Community of Interest, involving Lakeland Village and other areas off Grand Avenue. The City Manager and Council Members Brinley and Kelley will also be attending this meeting. 2 . Attended a meeting last week at Temescal High School regarding the Hall annexation. The CSA 124 Board voted to oppose this annexation. There were positive comments from County Supervisor Buster who also attended this meeting. Believes the issues will be resolved and the annexation will move forward. The annexation was continued by LAFCO to their meeting in February. 3 . Scheduled for the City Council meeting of December 12 , 1995 is a request by the property owner for the City to initiate a General Plan Amendment and Zone Change for property at the intersection of Grand Avenue and Ortega Highway. At issue is whether the City would initiate this General Plan Amendment/Zone Change or determine not too and the property owner would then have to file an application. Chairman Wilsey stated he believed a General Plan Amendment/Zone Change for this area would require a workshop. Community Development Director Leslie stated it could end up as a workshop item, but it has to be initiated first. Chairman Wilsey stated he understood the race track people will be having a meeting on December 20, and asked if staff had any new information. Community Development Director Leslie said that Planning Staff was gearing up to do the environmental work, but this is on hold. There is a lot going on behind the scenes relative to the major players. COMMISSION COMMITTEE COMMENTS Commissioner/Committee Member Matthies Congratulated Daniel Metze on his appointment to City Council and PAGE THREE - DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE MINUTES - DECEMBER 6, 1995 wished him the best, and stated that he will be missed by the Commission. Commissioner/Committee Member Sands Referred to the article in this evenings edition of Californian on the Community of Interest. According to this article, the LAFCO hearing should be smooth sailing. Commissioner/Committee Member Allenbach Commented that he would be interested in Chairman Wilsey's comments on how to stop signage from being installed/erected prior to its approval. Commissioner Committee Member Wilsey Commented as follows: 1. Announced that Daniel Metze has been appointed to City Council and has resigned his position on the Planning Commission/Design Review Committee. He then congratulated Dan on his appointment to City Council and wished him the best, and said that he will be missed by the Commission. 2 . With regard to DRC and signage. We have run into miscommunica- tions in the past and this has been discussed. Staff tries to get applicants to submit signage concurrently with their applications; however, this is not easily done. Suggested a formal response with regards to DRC and applicants. Formal notice with the application and presentation to the DRC. The application and minutes could reflect that the applicant had been notified that signage is required by separate permit and the applicant has indicated the permit will be brought before the DRC later or it is processed concurrently. Associate Planner De Gange stated this is a good idea. In the past, staff has addressed this through the conditions of approval listed on the business license. 3 . Asked if staff had heard anything from the homeowners within the Ayres track regarding the establishment of a committee to work with the developer (USA Properties) . Commissioner Sands stated that a committee is being formed, and they will be working with the developer and staff. Commissioner Allenbach asked if the developer had provided an outline of management procedures and techniques, as he had requested. Community Development Director Leslie stated the developer indicated that this would be forthcoming. Commissioner Allenbach asked staff if the developer had supplied the information on carports. Chairman Wilsey stated the specifics have not been submitted, but believes information on carports was presented. Associate Planner De Gange stated he would provide Commissioner Allenbach with a copy of the carport information. ADJOURNMENT MOVED BY SANDS, SECONDED BY ALLENBACH AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE TO ADJOURN THE DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE AT 7:40 P.M. APPROVED Ericka Matthies Vice Chairwoman WRectfullyzitted, Linda Grindstaff MINUTES OF LAKE ELSINORE DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE DECEMBER 20, 1995 THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE LAKE ELSINORE DESIGN REVIEW COMMITTEE SCHEDULED FOR DECEMBER 20, 1995, WAS CALLED FOR LACK OF AGENDA ITEMS. Respectfully submitted, Linda Grindstaff�eo Recording Secretary