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Tuesday, July 21, 2015
CALL TO ORDER
City of Lake Elsinore
1:Ieeting Minutes
Planning Commission
SHELLY JORDAN, CHAIR
ADAM ARMIT, VICE CHAIR
JOHN GRAY, COMMISSIONER
LANCE RAY, COMMISSIONER
GRANT TAYLOR, COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR
JUSTIN KIRK, PRINCIPAL PLANNER
6:00 PM
Chairman Jordan called the Planning Commission Meeting to order at 6:03p.m.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
Chairman Jordan led the Pledge of Allegiance.
ROLL CALL
LAKE-ELSINORE.ORG
(951) 674-3124 PHONE
CULTURAL CENTER
183 N. MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CA
92530
Present: Chairman Jordan, Commissioner Gray, Commissioner Fleming and Commissioner
Ray
Also Present: City Attorney Mann, Community Development Director Taylor, Planning
Manager MacHott and Office Specialist Wells
PUBLIC COMMENTS — NON AGENDIZED ITEMS — 3 MINUTES
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CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS) - None
PUBLIC HEARING ITEM(S)
Cultural Center
1) ID# 15-680 Minor Design Review - A Request to Allow Development of a 3,800
Square -foot GaragerWorkshop at the Rear of an Existing Residence
Located at 518 North Spring Street.
Staff recommends that the Planning Commission:
1. Take testimony from any interested parties in attendance.
2. Continue the subject project off calendar.
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This Public Heating has been continued off calendar.
No members of the public spoke regarding this project.
Motion by Commissioner Fleming, second by Commissioner Gray to continue this matter until
further notice.
AYES: Chairman Gray, Vice Chair Jordan, Commissioner Armit, Commissioner Fleming,
Commissioner Ray
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAIN: None
2) ID# 15-681 Residential Des iq n Review 2015-02 - A Reg uest for App rovaI of
Building Design Pians for 456 Residential Units located in SixJ61-
Planning Areas in the Canyon Hills Specific Plan Phase 8
Westrid a at Canyon Hills).
Staff recommends that the Planning Commission:
1. Adopt Resolution No. 2015-_, A Resolution of the Planning Commission of
the City of Lake Elsinore, California Adopting Findings that Residential Design
Review No. 2015-02 is Exempt from the Western Riverside County Multiple
Species Habitat Conservation Plan.
2. Adopt Resolution No. 2015-_ A Resolution of the Planning Commission of
the City of Lake Elsinore, California, Approving Residential Design Review No.
2015-02 for Vesting Tentative Tract Map No. 36117 and 36118.
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Senior Planner Justin Kirk gave a thorough presentation of the project He explained the
applicant had proposed a Development Plan for a total build out of Phase VIII totaling 456
units multi -family residential units with a proposed density of approximately 6.5 dwelling units
per acre. He gave a description of architectural theme and elevations of each area. He
finalized his presentation and said that this Residential Design Review is not something that is
recommended approval to the City Council, approval by the Planning Commission is final
action and staff is recommending adoption of Resolutions. He asked Planning Commission if
they had any questions.
Chairman Jordan thanked Planner Kirk and said his presentation was very thorough and she
had no questions at this time. Chairman Jordan asked if any of the Commissioners had any
questions for staff.
Commissioner Fleming agreed with Chairman Jordan and stated presentation was very
thorough and thanked Kirk. He also thanked applicant Ron Nugroho and complimented him
on the presentation as far as color selection and detail of the Illustrations presented in Kirk's
demonstration of project. Fleming said it was professionally done. He wished Nugroho the
best with the design element.
Applicant Ron Nugroho thanked Planner Kirk for putting this presentation together and it
makes the review and approval of this project much easier.
Commissioner Ray questioned, once Phase VIII is completed is the Canyon Hills Specific
Plan finished or are there more phases or other outline areas that are associated with the
Canyon Hills Specific Plan. Kirk replied, once Phase VIII is approved that will be the final
Residential Design Review.
Chairman Jordan said she was really impressed with this product and she is excited to see it
go in.
Commissioner Fleming said he was impressed that grading of this project was done so
quickly.
Commissioner Gray thanked applicant a excellent project and cooperation with the City.
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Motion by Commissioner Fleming, second by Commissioner Gray to Adopt Resolution No.
2015-56, A Resolution of the Planning Commission of the City of Lake Elsinore, California
Adopting Findings that Residential Design Review No. 2015-02 is Exempt from the Western
Riverside County Multiple Species Habitat Conservation Plan.
AYES: Chairman Jordan, Commissioner Gray, Commissioner Fleming, Commissioner
Ray
NOES: None
ABSENT: Vice Chair Armit
ABSTAIN: None
Motion by Chairman Jordan, second by Commissioner Fleming to Adopt Resolution No.
2015-57 A Resolution of the Planning Commission of the City of Lake Elsinore, California,
Approving Residential Design Review No. 2015-02 for Vesting Tentative Tract Map No. 36117
and 36118.
AYES: Chairman Jordan, Commissioner Gray, Commissioner Fleming, Commissioner
Ray
NOES: None
ABSENT: Vice Chair Armit
ABSTAIN: None
3) ID# 15-682 Conditional Use Permit No. 2014-05 and Minor Design Review - A
Request BV Spectrum Services Inc. dba Verizon Wireless to
Develop a New 50 -Foot Tall Monopalm Unmanned Wireless
Antenna Equipment Facilit and Associated Improvements on a
Vacant lot Located Approximately 400 Feet South of the
Intersection of Diamond Drive and Mission Trail.
Staff recommends that the Planning Commission:
1. Adopt Resolution No. 2015- ; A Resolution of the Planning Commission
of the City of Lake Elsinore, California, Approving Conditional Use Permit No.
2014-05 for Development of a New 50 -foot Tall Monopalm Unmanned
Wireless Telecommunications Facility on a Vacant Lot Located Approximately
400 feet South of the Intersection of Diamond Drive and Mission Trail.
2. Adopt Resolution No. 2015-_; A Resolution of the Planning Commission of
the City of Lake Elsinore, California, Approving a Minor Design Review for
Development of a New 50 -Foot Tall Monopalm Unmanned Wireless
Antenna and Equipment Facility on a Vacant Lot Located Approximately 400
Feet South of the Intersection of Diamond Drive And Mission Trail.
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*Planning Manager MacHott announced Vice Chair Armit arrival at 6:40pm
Associate Planner Agustin Resendiz presented his staff report for Planning Commission
regarding Conditional Use Permit 2014-05 and related Minor Design Review. He explained to
Planning Commission that this project was first heard on June 2, 2015 but it was continued to
July 7, 2015. Additional time was requested by the applicant to make all the required revisions
to the plans. Resendiz said the applicant has revised the plans to address the Commission's
concerns regarding the revision or relocation of the parking space for the maintenance vehicle
and the accurate presentation of the existing slope at the rear of the property related,
adjacent to the structure. The revised plans have also substituted Date Palm Trees for the
originally proposed Canary Palms. He completed his presentation and asked Planning
Commission for any questions or concerns regarding this project.
Applicant Mike Hayes with Spectrum Services, Inc., on behalf of Verizon Wireless was
available for any questions or concerns from staff or Planning Commission.
Commissioner Fleming told Mr. Jones, property owner that he would like to see a wall on the
back of this property for aesthetic purpose and for erosion. Mr. Jones stated that they will do
what is requested and construct a wall.
Motion by Commissioner Fleming, second by Commissioner Ray to Adopt Resolution No.
2015-58; A Resolution of the Planning Commission of the City of Lake Elsinore, California,
Approving Conditional Use Permit No. 2014-05 for Development of a New 50 -foot Tall
Monopalm Unmanned Wireless Telecommunications Facility on a Vacant Lot Located
Approximately 400 Feet South of the intersection of Diamond Drive and Mission Trail with a
new Condition No. 17, to require a three-foot high retaining wall along the rear of the property
line.
AYES: Chairman Jordan, Vice Chair Armit, Commissioner Gray,
Commissioner Fleming, Commissioner Ray
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAIN: None
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Motion by Commissioner Fleming, second by Vice Chair Armit to Adopt Resolution No.
2015-59; A Resolution of the Planning Commission of the City of Lake Elsinore, California,
Approving a Minor Design Review for Development of a New 50 -Foot Tall Monopalm
Unmanned Wireless Antenna and Equipment Facility on a Vacant Lot Located Approximately
400 Feet South of the Intersection of Diamond Drive And Mission Trail with the addition of a
new Condition of Approval No. 17 requiring a three-foot high retaining wall along the rear of
the property line to be built by the owner.
AYES: Chairman Jordan, Vice Chair Armit, Commissioner Gray,
Commissioner Fleming, Commissioner Ray
NOES: None
ABSENT: None
ABSTAIN: None
4) ID# 15-683 Conditional Use Permit No. 2014-08 and Commercial Desicin
Review No. 2014-12 - A Request to Demolish the ExistingGas
Station and Convenience Store at 301 N. Main Street and to
Relocate the Admacent Sin-gle-Family Dwelling Unit to Another Lot
within the Historic District; In Order to Construct a New 4,009
Square -Foot Convenience Store with a 4,365 Square -Foot Fueling_
Station.
J Staff recommends that the Planning Commission:
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1. Adopt Resolution No. 2015-_; A Resolution of the Planning Commission of
the City of Lake Elsinore, California, Approving Conditional Use Permit No.
2014-08; for the Development of a Freestanding 4,365 Square Foot Gasoline
Station with Six Gasoline Dispensers for the Proposed Project Located at 301 N.
Main Street.
2. Adopt Resolution No. 2015-_; A Resolution of the Planning Commission of
the City of Lake Elsinore, California, Recommending to the City Council of the
City of Lake Elsinore Approval of Commercial Design Review No. 2014-12.
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Planner Resendiz presented his staff report before the Planning Commission. He explained
that this Public Hearing was continued on June 16, 2015 due to Planning Commission's
concerns regarding the project design and the project's consistency with the General Plan.
Resendiz addressed the PC's concerns from previous meeting and made corrections.
Vice Chair Armit said the existing sidewalks show some signs of wear and he didn't think they
were pedestrian friendly. He didn't believe that it was a issue but questioned if the sidewalk
would be improved. He mentioned the oak tree on the property, he stated it was a beautiful
tree and hoped that it would still exist.
Interim Public Works Director Jim Smith made comments regarding Armit's concerns
regarding sidewalks. Smith explained that communities typically look at raised concrete
panels and they get replaced. So if there is trip and fall or lack of pedestrian access, one
thought is the applicant should be replacing those raised panels. Smith suggested that it be
read into the record that the Condition read that the applicant shall make sure that there is no
raised panels, that the width shall be a minimum width.
Commissioner Fleming commented that this was a much better project the second time
around and more thorough.
Commissioner Ray did not believe project meets code requirements and gave his thoughts
and recommendation for project.
Applicant/Owner Ahmed Kumar and Dave Bolin the architect of this project got up and
answered questions and addressed concerns Planning Commission had regarding this
project.
Commissioner Ray questioned applicant to explain why the decision to not further investigate
some of recommendations he had made at last Public Hearing regarding this manner. Ray
advised applicant that more investigation needs to occur with how things are laying out.
Architect Dave Bolin responded that they came as close as they could with requirements and
understands Ray's concerns and are willing to do what is needed of them.
Commissioner Armit asked Bolin what type of architecture design would this project
considered. Bolin replied that their direction was to go back towards the 1930's era.
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Commissioner Ray questioned Bolin about why they choose to stick with brick. Bolin replied,
most of the store fronts on Main St. were brick and they wanted to keep with the same theme
that was on Main St. now. Ray reminded Bolin of what he told him at the previous Public
Hearing regarding the architecture options he recommended and advised him that he was not
tethered to an exclusive brick facade.
Resident Rudy Lacayo got up and spoke regarding this project. He started by saying that he
was not opposed to this project but does have some issues with the oak tree in the back. He
wanted to know what studies were done to protect the oak tree. He said, it's a shame to see
something that old cut down. He believes something could be done to save this tree and
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questioned if the tree was endangered.
Commissioner Fleming spoke to Mr. Lacayo and explained that a few years ago this tree was
going to be cut down and he was the one who prevented that. Fleming explained when he did
research on that tree at that time, he discovered if a California Oak is on five acres or more in
a development, it is a endangered tree. Anything on private property or anything less then five
acres,the tree is not protected and the owner can do whatever they want with the tree. Lacayo
questioned if the oak was a state protected tree. Fleming replied yes, if it's on five acres or
more. Mr Lacayo expressed his concern for the birds in that tree and what would be done
regarding that. Mr Fleming explained, there are studies and inspections to protect birds.
Planning Manager MacHott added that law was called the Migratory Birds Treaty Act. It
protects song birds, and other species. MacHott explained, a Condition could be added that
the tree couldn't be disturbed unless a survey was done to make sure no nesting birds or it's
outside of the nesting season.
Planning Commission deliberated on this project and discussed the changes they would like
to make on this project. They talked about how the tree could be saved without redesigning
the project. They would like a Condition to be added that upon a arborist report, that the tree
be preserved if it could sustain the redesign of this project. Commissioner's agreed that
landscape plans reflect the increased planter at the corner of Main St. and Sumner. All the
glass windows on building will be between 12 and 16 feet in height. The six-foot perimeter
block wall adjacent to the residential side will be brick pilasters with stucco faced walls. The
six-foot block wall along the alley will be eliminated. The applicant will work with the
Community Development Director regarding the facade of the building. The trees along
Sumner and Main St. shall be Magnolias and along the alley way and residential street would
be Oak trees. Also, add a standard Condition regarding construction near trees when there
are nesting birds. Condition No. 24 - delete the title Zoning reference and delete Condition
No. 37. Finally, add a Condition that subject to the approval of the Public Works Director that
the sidewalks will be repaired to City standards and ADA requirement.
Motion by Commissioner Gray, second by Commissioner Fleming to Adopt Resolution No.
2015-60; A Resolution of the Planning Commission of the City of Lake Elsinore, California,
Approving Conditional Use Permit No. 2014-08; for the Development of a Freestanding 4,365
Square Foot Gasoline Station with Six Gasoline Dispensers for the Proposed Project Located
at 301 N. Main Street subject to all the Conditions of Approval that have been amended.
AYES: Chairman Jordan, Vice Chairman Armit, Commissioner Gray,
Commissioner Fleming
NOES: Commissioner Ray
ABSENT: None
ABSTAIN: None
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Motion by Chairman Jordan, second by Commission Fleming to Adopt Resolution No.
2015-61; A Resolution of the Planning Commission of the City of Lake Elsinore, California,
Recommending to the City Council of the City of Lake Elsinore Approval of Commercial
Design Review No. 2014-12 subject to all the Conditions of Approval that have been
amended.
AYES- Chairman Jordan, Vice Chairman Armit, Commissioner Gray,
Commissioner Fleming
NOES: Commissioner Ray
ABSENT: None
ABSTAIN None
BUSINESS ITEM(S) - None
STAFF COMMENTS
Community Development Director Grant Taylor thanked the Planning Commission for a good
deliberation tonight, very thoughtful and good comments.
Planning Manager Richard MacHott updated PC on City Council approvals regarding the
Terracina Specific Plan project.
COMMISSIONERS' COMMENTS
Commissioner Ray stated he is looking for a day where the Planning Commission feels more
empowered to direct their design intentions to the applicant.
Commissioner Fleming said thank you and goodnight.
Commissioner Gray said that he is encouraged by the progress. He stated he appreciates
working with City staff, applicants as well as the public and how Commission is evolving.
Vice Chair Armit said that he would really like to see staff bring forward a Historical Tree
Ordinance that can be presented to City Council.
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ADJOURNMENT
Chairman Jordan adjourned this meeting at 9:20p.m. to the next regularly scheduled meeting
of Tuesday, August 4, 2015 at the Cultural Center, 183 N. Main Street, Lake Elsinore, CA
92530.
f&A—Shel Jord n, Chairman
City Lak Elsinore
Attest:
Richard J. acHott, LEED Green Associate
Planning Manager
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