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File Number: ID# 22-103
Agenda Date: 3/8/2022 Status: Approval FinalVersion: 1
File Type: Council Public
Hearing
In Control: City Council / Successor Agency
Agenda Number: 16)
Public Hearing to Review the Demographer’s Analysis, Maps Submitted by the Public and the
City’s Demographer, and Staff’s Presentation of Maps Prepared Using the Discussed Criteria,
Receive Public Input on Communities of Interest and Potential District Boundaries, and
Preliminarily Select a New Map of City Council District Boundaries
Receive a report from staff, conduct a public hearing to receive public input, make a preliminary
selection of a new map of City Council District boundaries, and direct staff to prepare the final map and
Ordinance for first reading to adopt the map at the final public hearing on March 22, 2022.
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REPORT TO CITY COUNCIL
To: Honorable Mayor and Members of the City Council
From: Candice Alvarez, MMC, City Clerk
Date: March 8, 2022
Subject: Public Hearing to Review the Demographer’s Analysis, Maps Submitted by
the Public and the City’s Demographer, and Staff’s Presentation of Maps
Prepared Using the Discussed Criteria, Receive Public Input on
Communities of Interest and Potential District Boundaries, and Preliminarily
Select a New Map of City Council District Boundaries
Recommendation
Receive a report from staff, conduct a public hearing to receive public input, make a preliminary
selection of a new map of City Council District boundaries, and direct staff to prepare the final
map and Ordinance for first reading to adopt the map at the final public hearing on March 22,
2022.
Background
On February 1, 2018, the Lake Elsinore City Council adopted Ordinance No. 2018-1387 amending
Chapter 2.09 Elections, providing for the election of five Members of the City Council by districts,
establishing the boundaries and identification number of each District, and establishing the
election order of each District. At that time, the Council Districts were drawn using the 2010
Census data as was required by law.
Pursuant to Election Code Section 21500 et. seq., each city with district-based election systems
must use new census data as reported in each decennial federal census to review and, if needed,
redraw district lines to reflect how local populations have changed. This process, called
redistricting, ensures all districts have substantially equal population as required by the United
States Constitution.
By law, the City must hold at least four (4) public hearings that enable community members to
provide input on the drawing of district maps. At least one hearing must occur before the city
draws draft maps and at least two public hearings must occur after the drawing of draft maps. The
redistricting process for the City of Lake Elsinore must be completed by April 17, 2022.
Redistricting Public Hearing #3
March 8, 2022
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The first two hearings were held on August 25 and September 14, 2021. Recordings of those
hearings are available at https://lake-elsinore.legistar.com/Calendar.aspx.
The current Council Districts were drawn based on the 2010 census which recorded the City’s
population as 51,821. By comparison, City’s 2020 population was recorded as 72,979 which is a
40.83% increase. During the 10-year period from 2010 to 2020, District 2 and District 3
experienced substantial growth. The districts must now be redrawn using the 2020 census data
and in compliance with the FAIR MAPS Act, which was adopted by the California legislature as
AB 849 and took effect January 1, 2020. Under the Act, the Council shall draw and adopt
boundaries using the following criteria in the listed order of priority in accordance with Elections
Code 21601:
1. Comply with the federal requirements of substantially equal population and the Voting
Rights Act
2. To the extent practicable, geographically contiguous
3. To the extent practicable, undivided neighborhoods and “communities of interest”
(geographic areas that share common social or economic interests) should be kept
together
4. Easily identifiable boundaries
5. To the extent practicable, compact (do not bypass one group of people to get to a more
distant group of people)
6. Shall not favor or discriminate against a political party
Once the prioritized criteria are met, other traditional districting principles can be considered, such
as:
1. Minimize the number of voters delayed from voting in 2022 to 2024
2. Respect voters’ choices / continuity in office
3. Future population growth
Discussion
The purpose of Public Hearing #3 is to:
Review draft maps received from the public to date
Review draft maps that have been developed to date by the demographer
Preliminarily select a Council Districts map
At the hearing, National Demographics Corporation will review maps that have been developed
to date and the four public map submittals. The demographer’s draft maps designated as “Tan”,
“Green” and “Purple” are attached with the associated data attached as Exhibits B, C and D.
Redistricting Public Hearing #3
March 8, 2022
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These draft maps meet the required federal and state criteria. The four maps submitted by the
public are designated 201, 202, 203 and 204 and are attached with the associated data as
Exhibits E, F, G and H.
It is recommended that the City Council preliminarily select a preferred map and direct staff to
prepare the final map and ordinance for first reading and adoption at the final public hearing on
March 22, 2022. Election sequencing shall be in accordance with Lake Elsinore Municipal Code
Section 2.09.025, which in summary provides that elections for the Council seats in Districts 1
and 3 will be held every four years beginning in November 2018, and the elections for Districts 2,
4, and 5 will be held every four years beginning in November 2020. The district numbers in
proposed maps align with the current numbers of districts.
No further public comments have been received since the last hearing date. The public is
encouraged to participate in the hearing. Residents are encouraged to visit www.lake-
elsinore.org/redistricting to follow updates on the redistricting process, review data and materials,
and participate in the process by offering comments.
Next Steps
On March 22, 2022, the City Council will conduct Public Hearing #4 to seek additional public input
regarding district maps and introduce an Ordinance adopting the selected map. If the Ordinance
is introduced, it is anticipated to be adopted at its second reading on Tuesday, April 12, 2022.
Attachments
Exhibit A – Existing District Map
Exhibit B – Demographer’s Draft Map - Tan
Exhibit C – Demographer’s Draft Map - Purple
Exhibit D – Demographer’s Draft Map - Green
Exhibit E – Public Map No. 201
Exhibit F – Public Map No. 202
Exhibit G – Public Map No. 203
Exhibit H – Public Map No. 204
Exhibit I - Presentation
23154Perris Union HighSchool District(9-12)Perris Union HighSchool DistrictLake ElsinoreUnified SchoolDistrictPerrisElementarySchool DistrictMenifee UnionSchool District1515Riverside DrRiverside StLincoln StHerburn StChaney StOakview LnLa StradaE Lakeshore DrDiamond DrCrumpton RdE Hill StN Main St3rd StMcvicker Canyon Park RdRice CanyonGunnerson StLake StSummerhill DrNational Demographics Corporation, February 6, 2022�2021 CALIPER
Existing Districts
District 1
Total Pop 11,785
Deviation from ideal -2,318
% Deviation -16.44%
% Hisp 55.3%
% NH White 31%
% NH Black 5%
% Asian-American 4%
Total 5,766
% Hisp 42%
% NH White 43%
% NH Black 5%
% Asian/Pac.Isl.6%
Total 5,328
% Latino est.44%
% Spanish-Surnamed 40%
% Asian-Surnamed 2%
% Filipino-Surnamed 2%
% NH White est.51%
% NH Black 5%
Total 4,037
% Latino est.41%
% Spanish-Surnamed 37%
% Asian-Surnamed 2%
% Filipino-Surnamed 2%
% NH White est.53%
% NH Black 5%
Total 2,218
% Latino est.33%
% Spanish-Surnamed 30%
% Asian-Surnamed 2%
% Filipino-Surnamed 1%
% NH White est.60%
% NH Black est.5%
ACS Pop. Est.Total 10,225
age0-19 34%
age20-60 53%
age60plus 12%
immigrants 27%
naturalized 41%
english 53%
spanish 40%
asian-lang 5%
other lang 2%
Language Fluency Speaks Eng. "Less than Very Well"16%
hs-grad 61%
bachelor 9%
graduatedegree 4%
Child in Household child-under18 48%
Pct of Pop. Age 16+employed 65%
income 0-25k 16%
income 25-50k 24%
income 50-75k 22%
income 75-200k 36%
income 200k-plus 2%
single family 76%
multi-family 24%
rented 42%
owned 58%
Total population data from the 2020 Decennial Census.
Surname-based Voter Registration and Turnout data from the California Statewide Database.
Latino voter registration and turnout data are Spanish-surname counts adjusted using Census Population Department undercount estimates. NH White and NH Black
registration and turnout counts estimated by NDC. Citizen Voting Age Pop., Age, Immigration, and other demographics from the 2015-2019 American Community Survey and
Special Tabulation 5-year data.
2
15,042
939
6.66%
49%
28%
8%
12%
8,481
42%
41%
5%
11%
7,856
41%
37%
4%
2%
48%
6%
6,176
38%
35%
4%
2%
50%
6%
3,321
34%
32%
3%
2%
55%
7%
14,492
35%
54%
11%
19%
56%
61%
31%
6%
1%
8%
55%
17%
6%
51%
65%
14%
13%
20%
46%
8%
89%
11%
29%
71%
3
17,906
3,803
26.97%
36%
39%
10%
12%
10,132
28%
49%
13%
9%
9,535
29%
26%
3%
2%
57%
10%
7,917
27%
25%
3%
3%
58%
10%
4,593
23%
21%
3%
2%
62%
11%
16,584
32%
56%
13%
16%
54%
71%
20%
5%
3%
9%
52%
18%
10%
48%
67%
8%
16%
14%
56%
6%
94%
6%
18%
82%
4
11,660
-2,443
-17.32%
62%
27%
5%
3%
7,108
52%
39%
4%
3%
5,349
49%
45%
1%
1%
47%
4%
3,998
45%
41%
1%
1%
50%
4%
2,185
36%
34%
1%
1%
57%
4%
12,665
35%
52%
12%
23%
42%
47%
51%
2%
1%
19%
58%
10%
2%
48%
64%
15%
26%
23%
34%
2%
82%
18%
40%
60%
5
14,123
20
0.14%
60%
23%
7%
6%
6,296
53%
29%
11%
6%
5,984
42%
39%
2%
2%
43%
12%
4,494
39%
37%
2%
2%
45%
12%
2,102
34%
33%
2%
1%
47%
12%
12,249
35%
53%
12%
25%
40%
47%
50%
2%
1%
21%
54%
8%
3%
51%
63%
28%
27%
17%
26%
2%
80%
20%
49%
51%
Total
70,516
6,246
44.29%
51%
30%
7%
8%
37,783
42%
41%
8%
7%
34,052
39%
36%
3%
2%
50%
8%
26,622
36%
34%
3%
2%
52%
8%
14,419
31%
29%
2%
1%
57%
8%
66,216
34%
54%
12%
21%
46%
57%
37%
4%
2%
14%
56%
13%
5%
49%
65%
15%
20%
19%
41%
4%
85%
15%
34%
66%
01/14/2022 9:39 Page 1 of 1
Total Pop
Citizen Voting Age Pop
Voter Registration
(Nov 2020)
Voter Turnout
(Nov 2020)
Voter Turnout
(Nov 2018)
Age
Immigration
Language spoken at home
Education
(among those age 25+)
Household Income
Housing Stats
43512Perris Union HighSchool DistrictLake ElsinoreUnified SchoolDistrictPerrisElementarySchool DistrictMenifee UnionSchool District1515Riverside DrRiverside StLincoln StHerburn StChaney StOakview LnLa StradaE Lakeshore DrDiamond DrCrumpton RdE Hill StN Main St3rd StMcvicker Canyon Park RdRice CanyonLakeshore DrLake StSummerhill DrCanyon Hills RdNational Demographics Corporation, March 3, 2022�2021 CALIPER
Category Field 12345 Total
Total Population 13,578 14,167 14,661 14,305 13,805 70,516
Population Deviation -525 64 558 202 -298 1,083
Pct. Deviation -3.72% 0.45% 3.96% 1.43% -2.11%7.68%
Hispanic/Latino 59% 51% 35% 55% 55% 51%
NH White 28% 25% 38% 32% 27% 30%
NH Black 6% 8% 11% 5% 7% 7%
NH Asian/Pac.Isl. 5% 13% 13% 6% 9% 9%
NH Native Amer. 1% 1% 1% 1% 1% 1%
Total 6,867 7,612 8,072 8,727 6,505 37,783
Hisp 49% 49% 27% 43% 44% 42%
NH White 39% 35% 49% 44% 36% 41%
NH Black 7% 4% 14% 4% 10% 8%
Asian/Pac.Isl. 4% 11% 8% 5% 9% 7%
Native Amer. 0% 1% 1% 2% 1% 1%
Total 5,594 7,094 7,571 7,240 6,553 34,052
Latino est. 44% 44% 28% 43% 39% 39%
Spanish-Surnamed 40% 40% 26% 40% 36% 36%
Asian-Surnamed 1% 4% 3% 2% 3% 3%
Filipino-Surnamed 2% 2% 2% 1% 3% 2%
NH White est. 47% 46% 56% 52% 46% 50%
NH Black 8% 6% 11% 5% 10% 8%
Total 4,027 5,445 6,312 5,763 5,075 26,622
Latino est. 40% 42% 27% 40% 36% 36%
Spanish-Surnamed 37% 38% 25% 36% 34% 34%
Asian-Surnamed 1% 3% 3% 2% 3% 3%
Filipino-Surnamed 2% 2% 2% 1% 3% 2%
NH White est. 50% 48% 58% 55% 48% 52%
NH Black 7% 6% 11% 5% 11% 8%
Total 2,116 2,817 3,726 3,342 2,418 14,419
Latino est. 34% 36% 23% 32% 31% 31%
Spanish-Surnamed 33% 34% 21% 30% 29% 29%
Asian-Surnamed 1% 3% 3% 2% 2% 2%
Filipino-Surnamed 1% 2% 2% 1% 1% 1%
NH White est. 53% 53% 61% 60% 53% 57%
NH Black est. 8% 6% 11% 5% 11% 8%
age0-19 36% 36% 32% 33% 33% 34%
age20-60 51% 54% 55% 54% 55% 54%
age60plus 13% 9% 13% 13% 12% 12%
immigrants 27% 19% 15% 22% 24% 21%
naturalized 35% 55% 59% 48% 41% 46%
english 43% 56% 74% 60% 50% 57%
spanish 53% 36% 18% 35% 45% 37%
asian-lang 2% 6% 5% 4% 3% 4%
other lang 1% 2% 3% 2% 1% 2%
Language Fluency Speaks Eng. "Less than
Very Well"22% 12% 7% 11% 19% 14%
hs-grad 56% 54% 51% 61% 55% 56%
bachelor 8% 16% 19% 12% 10% 13%
graduatedegree 3% 6% 10% 4% 5% 5%
Child in Household child-under18 47% 54% 48% 47% 50% 49%
Pct of Pop. Age 16+ employed 63% 67% 66% 64% 64% 65%
income 0-25k 24% 12% 9% 11% 21% 15%
income 25-50k 29% 14% 12% 18% 29% 20%
income 50-75k 21% 20% 15% 21% 18% 19%
income 75-200k 25% 47% 59% 47% 29% 41%
income 200k-plus 1% 7% 6% 3% 3% 4%
single family 73% 86% 95% 89% 83% 85%
multi-family 27% 14% 5% 11% 17% 0%
rented 53% 28% 14% 31% 44% 34%
owned 47% 72% 86% 69% 56% 66%
Household Income
Education (among those
age 25+)
Immigration
Age
Language spoken at
home
Tan
2020 Census
Total Pop.
Citizen Voting Age Pop
Housing Stats
Voter Registration (Nov
2020)
Voter Turnout (Nov
2020)
Total population data from California's adjusted 2020 Census data. Citizen Voting Age Population, Age, Immigration, and other demographics from the 2015-2019
American Community Survey and Special Tabulation 5-year data. Turnout and Registration data from California Statewide Database ("Latino" figures calculated by
NDC using Census Bureau's Latino undercount by surname estimate).
Voter Turnout (Nov
2018)
13452Perris Union HighSchool DistrictLake ElsinoreUnified SchoolDistrictPerrisElementarySchool DistrictMenifee UnionSchool District1515Riverside StLincoln StHerburn StChaney StOakview LnLa StradaE Lakeshore DrDiamond DrCrumpton RdE Hill StN Main St3rd StMcvicker Canyon Park RdRice CanyonLakeshore DrLake StSummerhill DrCanyon Hills RdNational Demographics Corporation, March 3, 2022�2021 CALIPER
Purple
District 1
Total Pop 14,102
Deviation from ideal -1
% Deviation -0.01%
% Hisp 61.7%
% NH White 26%
% NH Black 6%
% Asian-American 4%
Total 7,072
% Hisp 50%
% NH White 36%
% NH Black 7%
% Asian/Pac.Isl.5%
Total 5,568
% Latino est.47%
% Spanish-Surnamed 43%
% Asian-Surnamed 1%
% Filipino-Surnamed 2%
% NH White est.44%
% NH Black 8%
Total 3,955
% Latino est.44%
% Spanish-Surnamed 40%
% Asian-Surnamed 1%
% Filipino-Surnamed 2%
% NH White est.47%
% NH Black 8%
Total 2,102
% Latino est.36%
% Spanish-Surnamed 34%
% Asian-Surnamed 1%
% Filipino-Surnamed 2%
% NH White est.51%
% NH Black est.8%
ACS Pop. Est.Total 13,939
age0-19 37%
age20-60 51%
age60plus 12%
immigrants 28%
naturalized 34%
english 43%
spanish 52%
asian-lang 3%
other lang 2%
Language Fluency Speaks Eng. "Less than Very Well"20%
hs-grad 60%
bachelor 7%
graduatedegree 2%
Child in Household child-under18 50%
Pct of Pop. Age 16+employed 65%
income 0-25k 23%
income 25-50k 29%
income 50-75k 22%
income 75-200k 25%
income 200k-plus 1%
single family 65%
multi-family 35%
rented 57%
owned 43%
Total population data from the 2020 Decennial Census.
Surname-based Voter Registration and Turnout data from the California Statewide Database.
Latino voter registration and turnout data are Spanish-surname counts adjusted using Census Population Department undercount estimates. NH White and NH Black
registration and turnout counts estimated by NDC. Citizen Voting Age Pop., Age, Immigration, and other demographics from the 2015-2019 American Community Survey and
Special Tabulation 5-year data.
2
14,131
28
0.20%
58%
22%
7%
10%
6,999
52%
32%
5%
11%
6,122
47%
43%
3%
2%
43%
6%
4,568
44%
41%
3%
2%
45%
6%
2,325
39%
36%
3%
2%
49%
7%
13,794
37%
53%
9%
19%
50%
50%
43%
5%
1%
15%
53%
13%
5%
56%
65%
19%
19%
20%
36%
6%
83%
17%
39%
61%
3
14,645
542
3.84%
35%
38%
10%
12%
8,066
27%
49%
14%
8%
7,563
28%
26%
3%
2%
56%
11%
6,307
27%
25%
3%
2%
58%
11%
3,722
23%
21%
3%
2%
61%
11%
13,185
32%
55%
13%
15%
59%
74%
18%
5%
3%
7%
51%
19%
10%
48%
66%
9%
12%
15%
59%
6%
95%
5%
14%
86%
4
14,077
-26
-0.18%
55%
33%
4%
5%
8,967
45%
44%
3%
5%
7,426
43%
40%
2%
1%
52%
3%
5,949
39%
36%
2%
1%
55%
4%
3,457
33%
31%
1%
1%
61%
4%
14,293
32%
55%
13%
21%
52%
59%
37%
3%
1%
13%
58%
13%
4%
45%
64%
10%
18%
21%
47%
3%
97%
3%
25%
75%
5
13,561
-542
-3.84%
46%
32%
8%
10%
6,679
37%
43%
10%
9%
7,373
35%
32%
3%
3%
50%
10%
5,843
33%
30%
3%
3%
52%
10%
2,813
27%
26%
2%
1%
57%
10%
11,006
32%
56%
12%
24%
45%
59%
33%
5%
3%
14%
56%
13%
6%
48%
65%
17%
24%
16%
39%
4%
87%
13%
34%
66%
Total
70,516
1,084
7.69%
51%
30%
7%
8%
37,783
42%
41%
8%
7%
34,052
39%
36%
3%
2%
50%
8%
26,622
36%
34%
3%
2%
52%
8%
14,419
31%
29%
2%
1%
57%
8%
66,216
34%
54%
12%
21%
46%
57%
37%
4%
2%
14%
56%
13%
5%
49%
65%
15%
20%
19%
41%
4%
85%
15%
34%
66%
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Total Pop
Citizen Voting Age Pop
Voter Registration
(Nov 2020)
Voter Turnout
(Nov 2020)
Voter Turnout
(Nov 2018)
Age
Immigration
Language spoken at home
Education
(among those age 25+)
Household Income
Housing Stats
13452Perris Union HighSchool District(9-12)Perris Union HighSchool DistrictLake ElsinoreUnified SchoolDistrictPerrisElementarySchool DistrictMenifee UnionSchool District1515Riverside DrRiverside StHerburn StChaney StOakview LnLa StradaE Lakeshore DrDiamond DrCrumpton RdE Hill StN Main St3rd StMcvicker Canyon Park RdRice CanyonLakeshore DrLake StSummerhill DrCanyon Hills RdNational Demographics Corporation, March 3, 2022�2021 CALIPER
Green
District 1
Total Pop 13,772
Deviation from ideal -331
% Deviation -2.35%
% Hisp 59.3%
% NH White 29%
% NH Black 5%
% Asian-American 4%
Total 7,117
% Hisp 45%
% NH White 42%
% NH Black 5%
% Asian/Pac.Isl.5%
Total 5,897
% Latino est.46%
% Spanish-Surnamed 42%
% Asian-Surnamed 1%
% Filipino-Surnamed 2%
% NH White est.49%
% NH Black 5%
Total 4,397
% Latino est.43%
% Spanish-Surnamed 39%
% Asian-Surnamed 1%
% Filipino-Surnamed 2%
% NH White est.51%
% NH Black 5%
Total 2,416
% Latino est.34%
% Spanish-Surnamed 32%
% Asian-Surnamed 1%
% Filipino-Surnamed 1%
% NH White est.58%
% NH Black est.5%
ACS Pop. Est.Total 13,200
age0-19 35%
age20-60 52%
age60plus 13%
immigrants 26%
naturalized 39%
english 48%
spanish 47%
asian-lang 4%
other lang 2%
Language Fluency Speaks Eng. "Less than Very Well"18%
hs-grad 62%
bachelor 8%
graduatedegree 3%
Child in Household child-under18 48%
Pct of Pop. Age 16+employed 64%
income 0-25k 19%
income 25-50k 27%
income 50-75k 21%
income 75-200k 32%
income 200k-plus 2%
single family 73%
multi-family 27%
rented 44%
owned 56%
Total population data from the 2020 Decennial Census.
Surname-based Voter Registration and Turnout data from the California Statewide Database.
Latino voter registration and turnout data are Spanish-surname counts adjusted using Census Population Department undercount estimates. NH White and NH Black
registration and turnout counts estimated by NDC. Citizen Voting Age Pop., Age, Immigration, and other demographics from the 2015-2019 American Community Survey and
Special Tabulation 5-year data.
2
14,144
41
0.29%
59%
21%
7%
9%
7,121
51%
33%
6%
10%
6,152
46%
43%
3%
2%
41%
7%
4,558
44%
41%
3%
2%
43%
7%
2,400
39%
38%
2%
1%
46%
7%
14,224
38%
52%
10%
20%
45%
49%
45%
5%
1%
15%
51%
12%
5%
55%
63%
22%
21%
22%
29%
5%
79%
21%
46%
54%
3
14,342
239
1.69%
36%
38%
11%
12%
7,898
28%
48%
14%
8%
7,404
29%
26%
3%
2%
56%
11%
6,158
27%
25%
3%
3%
57%
11%
3,643
23%
21%
3%
2%
61%
11%
12,637
32%
55%
13%
15%
58%
73%
18%
5%
4%
7%
51%
19%
10%
48%
67%
8%
12%
13%
61%
5%
95%
5%
13%
87%
4
14,169
66
0.47%
54%
31%
5%
6%
8,717
48%
41%
4%
6%
7,325
44%
40%
2%
1%
51%
4%
5,751
39%
36%
2%
1%
54%
4%
3,176
33%
31%
2%
1%
59%
4%
14,131
33%
55%
12%
22%
51%
57%
39%
3%
1%
14%
59%
15%
4%
47%
66%
9%
17%
21%
49%
4%
94%
6%
28%
72%
5
14,089
-14
-0.10%
47%
32%
8%
9%
6,930
38%
42%
10%
8%
7,274
35%
33%
2%
2%
51%
11%
5,758
33%
30%
2%
2%
52%
11%
2,784
27%
26%
2%
1%
57%
11%
12,023
32%
55%
13%
25%
43%
59%
35%
4%
2%
16%
54%
13%
5%
48%
64%
19%
25%
17%
35%
4%
86%
14%
39%
61%
Total
70,516
570
4.04%
51%
30%
7%
8%
37,783
42%
41%
8%
7%
34,052
39%
36%
3%
2%
50%
8%
26,622
36%
34%
3%
2%
52%
8%
14,419
31%
29%
2%
1%
57%
8%
66,216
34%
54%
12%
21%
46%
57%
37%
4%
2%
14%
56%
13%
5%
49%
65%
15%
20%
19%
41%
4%
85%
15%
34%
66%
02/06/2022 10:27 Page 1 of 1
Total Pop
Citizen Voting Age Pop
Voter Registration
(Nov 2020)
Voter Turnout
(Nov 2020)
Voter Turnout
(Nov 2018)
Age
Immigration
Language spoken at home
Education
(among those age 25+)
Household Income
Housing Stats
43152Perris Union HighSchool District(9-12)Perris Union HighSchool DistrictLake ElsinoreUnified SchoolDistrictPerrisElementarySchool DistrictMenifee UnionSchool District1515Riverside DrRiverside StLincoln StHerburn StChaney StOakview LnLa StradaE Lakeshore DrDiamond DrCrumpton RdE Hill StN Main St3rd StMcvicker Canyon Park RdRice CanyonLakeshore DrLake StSummerhill DrCanyon Hills RdNational Demographics Corporation, March 3, 2022�2021 CALIPER
Category Field 12345 Total
Total Population 14,447 13,923 14,152 14,191 13,803 70,516
Population Deviation 344 -180 49 88 -300 644
Pct. Deviation 2.44% -1.28% 0.35% 0.62% -2.13%4.57%
Hispanic/Latino 60% 45% 37% 55% 59% 51%
NH White 28% 29% 38% 31% 24% 30%
NH Black 5% 9% 10% 5% 7% 7%
NH Asian/Pac.Isl. 5% 14% 12% 7% 7% 9%
NH Native Amer. 1% 1% 1% 1% 1% 1%
Total 7,463 8,343 7,126 8,725 6,126 37,783
Hisp 46% 36% 30% 47% 52% 42%
NH White 40% 42% 50% 41% 31% 41%
NH Black 6% 10% 10% 4% 10% 8%
Asian/Pac.Isl. 5% 11% 9% 6% 6% 7%
Native Amer. 2% 0% 1% 1% 1% 1%
Total 6,108 7,275 7,311 7,319 6,039 34,052
Latino est. 46% 37% 30% 44% 42% 39%
Spanish-Surnamed 42% 35% 27% 40% 39% 36%
Asian-Surnamed 1% 5% 3% 2% 2% 3%
Filipino-Surnamed 2% 2% 3% 1% 2% 2%
NH White est. 48% 47% 57% 51% 45% 50%
NH Black 6% 9% 9% 4% 10% 8%
Total 4,539 5,689 6,089 5,739 4,566 26,622
Latino est. 43% 36% 28% 40% 38% 36%
Spanish-Surnamed 39% 33% 26% 36% 36% 34%
Asian-Surnamed 1% 4% 2% 2% 2% 3%
Filipino-Surnamed 2% 2% 3% 1% 2% 2%
NH White est. 50% 49% 58% 54% 47% 52%
NH Black 6% 9% 9% 4% 11% 8%
Total 2,507 3,265 3,398 3,152 2,097 14,419
Latino est. 35% 31% 23% 33% 33% 31%
Spanish-Surnamed 32% 29% 22% 31% 32% 29%
Asian-Surnamed 1% 3% 2% 2% 2% 2%
Filipino-Surnamed 1% 1% 2% 1% 1% 1%
NH White est. 56% 53% 62% 59% 51% 57%
NH Black est. 6% 9% 10% 4% 11% 8%
age0-19 35% 36% 32% 33% 34% 34%
age20-60 52% 54% 56% 54% 54% 54%
age60plus 13% 11% 12% 12% 12% 12%
immigrants 27% 17% 17% 22% 24% 21%
naturalized 38% 53% 52% 52% 41% 46%
english 47% 60% 73% 58% 47% 57%
spanish 48% 32% 19% 38% 49% 37%
asian-lang 3% 6% 5% 3% 2% 4%
other lang 2% 2% 3% 1% 1% 2%
Language Fluency Speaks Eng. "Less than
Very Well"19% 10% 9% 13% 20% 14%
hs-grad 60% 50% 53% 60% 54% 56%
bachelor 7% 17% 17% 15% 9% 13%
graduatedegree 3% 8% 9% 4% 4% 5%
Child in Household child-under18 48% 52% 49% 47% 50% 49%
Pct of Pop. Age 16+ employed 64% 65% 66% 66% 63% 65%
income 0-25k 20% 15% 7% 9% 27% 15%
income 25-50k 27% 15% 18% 17% 27% 20%
income 50-75k 20% 20% 15% 21% 17% 19%
income 75-200k 31% 44% 55% 49% 27% 41%
income 200k-plus 1% 6% 6% 4% 2% 4%
single family 72% 83% 95% 94% 83% 85%
multi-family 28% 17% 5% 6% 17% 0%
rented 46% 31% 18% 28% 45% 34%
owned 54% 69% 82% 72% 55% 66%
Housing Stats
Voter Registration (Nov
2020)
Voter Turnout (Nov
2020)
Total population data from California's adjusted 2020 Census data. Citizen Voting Age Population, Age, Immigration, and other demographics from the 2015-2019
American Community Survey and Special Tabulation 5-year data. Turnout and Registration data from California Statewide Database ("Latino" figures calculated by
NDC using Census Bureau's Latino undercount by surname estimate).
Voter Turnout (Nov
2018)
Household Income
Education (among those
age 25+)
Immigration
Age
Language spoken at
home
Lake Elsinore - Public 201
2020 Census
Total Pop.
Citizen Voting Age Pop
43152Perris Union HighSchool District(9-12)Perris Union HighSchool DistrictLake ElsinoreUnified SchoolDistrictPerrisElementarySchool DistrictMenifee UnionSchool District1515Riverside DrRiverside StLincoln StHerburn StChaney StOakview LnLa StradaE Lakeshore DrDiamond DrCrumpton RdE Hill StN Main St3rd StMcvicker Canyon Park RdRice CanyonLakeshore DrLake StSummerhill DrCanyon Hills RdNational Demographics Corporation, March 3, 2022�2021 CALIPER
Public 202
District 1
Total Pop 14,069
Deviation from ideal -34
% Deviation -0.24%
% Hisp 58.2%
% NH White 29%
% NH Black 5%
% Asian-American 4%
Total 7,281
% Hisp 45%
% NH White 42%
% NH Black 5%
% Asian/Pac.Isl.5%
Total 6,149
% Latino est.45%
% Spanish-Surnamed 41%
% Asian-Surnamed 1%
% Filipino-Surnamed 2%
% NH White est.50%
% NH Black 5%
Total 4,603
% Latino est.42%
% Spanish-Surnamed 38%
% Asian-Surnamed 1%
% Filipino-Surnamed 2%
% NH White est.52%
% NH Black 5%
Total 2,501
% Latino est.33%
% Spanish-Surnamed 31%
% Asian-Surnamed 1%
% Filipino-Surnamed 1%
% NH White est.59%
% NH Black est.5%
ACS Pop. Est.Total 13,387
age0-19 35%
age20-60 53%
age60plus 13%
immigrants 26%
naturalized 39%
english 48%
spanish 47%
asian-lang 4%
other lang 2%
Language Fluency Speaks Eng. "Less than Very Well"18%
hs-grad 61%
bachelor 8%
graduatedegree 3%
Child in Household child-under18 48%
Pct of Pop. Age 16+employed 64%
income 0-25k 19%
income 25-50k 27%
income 50-75k 20%
income 75-200k 32%
income 200k-plus 2%
single family 74%
multi-family 26%
rented 43%
owned 57%
Total population data from the 2020 Decennial Census.
Surname-based Voter Registration and Turnout data from the California Statewide Database.
Latino voter registration and turnout data are Spanish-surname counts adjusted using Census Population Department undercount estimates. NH White and NH Black
registration and turnout counts estimated by NDC. Citizen Voting Age Pop., Age, Immigration, and other demographics from the 2015-2019 American Community Survey and
Special Tabulation 5-year data.
2
13,518
-585
-4.15%
48%
27%
9%
12%
7,778
41%
40%
8%
11%
6,755
39%
36%
4%
2%
47%
8%
5,218
38%
35%
4%
2%
48%
8%
2,918
33%
32%
3%
1%
52%
8%
13,313
35%
54%
10%
18%
51%
58%
34%
6%
2%
11%
51%
16%
7%
52%
65%
14%
16%
20%
44%
6%
84%
16%
32%
68%
3
14,689
586
4.16%
35%
40%
10%
12%
7,750
26%
51%
12%
9%
7,873
29%
26%
3%
3%
57%
10%
6,582
27%
25%
3%
3%
58%
10%
3,760
22%
21%
2%
2%
62%
11%
13,265
32%
55%
13%
17%
53%
74%
19%
5%
3%
8%
52%
18%
9%
49%
66%
8%
16%
16%
54%
6%
94%
6%
18%
82%
4
14,117
14
0.10%
55%
31%
5%
6%
8,678
47%
41%
4%
6%
7,291
44%
40%
2%
1%
51%
4%
5,725
40%
36%
2%
1%
54%
4%
3,138
33%
31%
2%
1%
59%
4%
14,001
33%
54%
12%
22%
52%
58%
37%
3%
1%
13%
60%
15%
4%
47%
66%
9%
16%
21%
49%
4%
94%
6%
28%
72%
5
14,123
20
0.14%
60%
23%
7%
6%
6,296
53%
29%
11%
6%
5,984
42%
39%
2%
2%
43%
12%
4,494
39%
37%
2%
2%
45%
12%
2,102
34%
33%
2%
1%
47%
12%
12,249
35%
53%
12%
25%
40%
47%
50%
2%
1%
21%
54%
8%
3%
51%
63%
28%
27%
17%
26%
2%
80%
20%
49%
51%
Total
70,516
1,171
8.30%
51%
30%
7%
8%
37,783
42%
41%
8%
7%
34,052
39%
36%
3%
2%
50%
8%
26,622
36%
34%
3%
2%
52%
8%
14,419
31%
29%
2%
1%
57%
8%
66,216
34%
54%
12%
21%
46%
57%
37%
4%
2%
14%
56%
13%
5%
49%
65%
15%
20%
19%
41%
4%
85%
15%
34%
66%
03/02/2022 17:36 Page 1 of 1
Total Pop
Citizen Voting Age Pop
Voter Registration
(Nov 2020)
Voter Turnout
(Nov 2020)
Voter Turnout
(Nov 2018)
Age
Immigration
Language spoken at home
Education
(among those age 25+)
Household Income
Housing Stats
31452Perris Union HighSchool District(9-12)Perris Union HighSchool DistrictLake ElsinoreUnified SchoolDistrictPerrisElementarySchool DistrictMenifee UnionSchool District1515Riverside DrRiverside StLincoln StChaney StOakview LnLa StradaE Lakeshore DrDiamond DrCrumpton RdE Hill StN Main St3rd StMcvicker Canyon Park RdRice CanyonWashington AveLakeshore DrLake StSummerhill DrNational Demographics Corporation, March 3, 2022�2021 CALIPER
Public 203
District 1
Total Pop 14,069
Deviation from ideal -34
% Deviation -0.24%
% Hisp 58.2%
% NH White 29%
% NH Black 5%
% Asian-American 4%
Total 7,281
% Hisp 45%
% NH White 42%
% NH Black 5%
% Asian/Pac.Isl.5%
Total 6,149
% Latino est.45%
% Spanish-Surnamed 41%
% Asian-Surnamed 1%
% Filipino-Surnamed 2%
% NH White est.50%
% NH Black 5%
Total 4,603
% Latino est.42%
% Spanish-Surnamed 38%
% Asian-Surnamed 1%
% Filipino-Surnamed 2%
% NH White est.52%
% NH Black 5%
Total 2,501
% Latino est.33%
% Spanish-Surnamed 31%
% Asian-Surnamed 1%
% Filipino-Surnamed 1%
% NH White est.59%
% NH Black est.5%
ACS Pop. Est.Total 13,387
age0-19 35%
age20-60 53%
age60plus 13%
immigrants 26%
naturalized 39%
english 48%
spanish 47%
asian-lang 4%
other lang 2%
Language Fluency Speaks Eng. "Less than Very Well"18%
hs-grad 61%
bachelor 8%
graduatedegree 3%
Child in Household child-under18 48%
Pct of Pop. Age 16+employed 64%
income 0-25k 19%
income 25-50k 27%
income 50-75k 20%
income 75-200k 32%
income 200k-plus 2%
single family 74%
multi-family 26%
rented 43%
owned 57%
Total population data from the 2020 Decennial Census.
Surname-based Voter Registration and Turnout data from the California Statewide Database.
Latino voter registration and turnout data are Spanish-surname counts adjusted using Census Population Department undercount estimates. NH White and NH Black
registration and turnout counts estimated by NDC. Citizen Voting Age Pop., Age, Immigration, and other demographics from the 2015-2019 American Community Survey and
Special Tabulation 5-year data.
2
14,098
-5
-0.04%
47%
27%
9%
13%
8,142
39%
39%
10%
12%
7,198
40%
37%
4%
3%
45%
9%
5,589
38%
35%
4%
3%
47%
10%
3,010
33%
31%
3%
2%
51%
11%
13,568
36%
54%
10%
17%
57%
62%
29%
7%
2%
9%
52%
18%
8%
52%
66%
13%
13%
19%
48%
8%
86%
14%
27%
73%
3
14,819
716
5.08%
36%
39%
10%
12%
7,630
29%
51%
10%
9%
7,869
29%
26%
3%
3%
58%
9%
6,567
27%
25%
3%
3%
60%
9%
3,749
22%
21%
2%
2%
64%
9%
13,214
32%
56%
12%
17%
53%
72%
20%
5%
3%
9%
53%
17%
9%
49%
66%
8%
16%
15%
55%
6%
95%
5%
18%
82%
4
13,462
-641
-4.55%
56%
31%
5%
5%
8,465
47%
42%
4%
5%
6,866
43%
40%
2%
1%
51%
4%
5,377
39%
37%
2%
1%
54%
4%
3,062
33%
31%
1%
1%
59%
4%
13,855
33%
54%
13%
22%
47%
56%
40%
2%
1%
14%
58%
14%
3%
46%
65%
11%
19%
23%
44%
3%
91%
9%
34%
66%
5
14,068
-35
-0.25%
60%
23%
7%
6%
6,265
53%
29%
11%
6%
5,970
42%
39%
2%
2%
43%
12%
4,486
39%
37%
2%
2%
45%
12%
2,097
34%
33%
2%
1%
47%
12%
12,192
35%
53%
12%
25%
40%
47%
50%
2%
1%
21%
54%
8%
3%
51%
63%
28%
27%
17%
26%
2%
81%
19%
49%
51%
Total
70,516
1,357
9.62%
51%
30%
7%
8%
37,783
42%
41%
8%
7%
34,052
39%
36%
3%
2%
50%
8%
26,622
36%
34%
3%
2%
52%
8%
14,419
31%
29%
2%
1%
57%
8%
66,216
34%
54%
12%
21%
46%
57%
37%
4%
2%
14%
56%
13%
5%
49%
65%
15%
20%
19%
41%
4%
85%
15%
34%
66%
03/02/2022 17:35 Page 1 of 1
Total Pop
Citizen Voting Age Pop
Voter Registration
(Nov 2020)
Voter Turnout
(Nov 2020)
Voter Turnout
(Nov 2018)
Age
Immigration
Language spoken at home
Education
(among those age 25+)
Household Income
Housing Stats
43152Perris Union HighSchool District(9-12)Perris Union HighSchool DistrictLake ElsinoreUnified SchoolDistrictPerrisElementarySchool DistrictMenifee UnionSchool District1515Riverside DrRiverside StLincoln StHerburn StChaney StOakview LnLa StradaE Lakeshore DrDiamond DrCrumpton RdE Hill StN Main St3rd StMcvicker Canyon Park RdRice CanyonLakeshore DrLake StSummerhill DrCanyon Hills RdNational Demographics Corporation, March 3, 2022�2021 CALIPER
Public 204
District 1
Total Pop 14,069
Deviation from ideal -34
% Deviation -0.24%
% Hisp 58.2%
% NH White 29%
% NH Black 5%
% Asian-American 4%
Total 7,281
% Hisp 45%
% NH White 42%
% NH Black 5%
% Asian/Pac.Isl.5%
Total 6,149
% Latino est.45%
% Spanish-Surnamed 41%
% Asian-Surnamed 1%
% Filipino-Surnamed 2%
% NH White est.50%
% NH Black 5%
Total 4,603
% Latino est.42%
% Spanish-Surnamed 38%
% Asian-Surnamed 1%
% Filipino-Surnamed 2%
% NH White est.52%
% NH Black 5%
Total 2,501
% Latino est.33%
% Spanish-Surnamed 31%
% Asian-Surnamed 1%
% Filipino-Surnamed 1%
% NH White est.59%
% NH Black est.5%
ACS Pop. Est.Total 13,387
age0-19 35%
age20-60 53%
age60plus 13%
immigrants 26%
naturalized 39%
english 48%
spanish 47%
asian-lang 4%
other lang 2%
Language Fluency Speaks Eng. "Less than Very Well"18%
hs-grad 61%
bachelor 8%
graduatedegree 3%
Child in Household child-under18 48%
Pct of Pop. Age 16+employed 64%
income 0-25k 19%
income 25-50k 27%
income 50-75k 20%
income 75-200k 32%
income 200k-plus 2%
single family 74%
multi-family 26%
rented 43%
owned 57%
Total population data from the 2020 Decennial Census.
Surname-based Voter Registration and Turnout data from the California Statewide Database.
Latino voter registration and turnout data are Spanish-surname counts adjusted using Census Population Department undercount estimates. NH White and NH Black
registration and turnout counts estimated by NDC. Citizen Voting Age Pop., Age, Immigration, and other demographics from the 2015-2019 American Community Survey and
Special Tabulation 5-year data.
2
13,847
-256
-1.82%
47%
28%
9%
12%
8,136
38%
40%
10%
11%
6,920
39%
36%
4%
2%
45%
9%
5,361
37%
35%
4%
2%
47%
9%
3,015
33%
31%
3%
1%
51%
10%
13,780
35%
54%
11%
18%
51%
60%
32%
6%
2%
10%
51%
17%
8%
51%
65%
14%
15%
20%
44%
6%
84%
16%
32%
68%
3
14,341
238
1.69%
36%
40%
10%
11%
7,375
28%
52%
10%
9%
7,694
29%
26%
3%
3%
58%
9%
6,433
27%
25%
3%
3%
60%
9%
3,654
22%
21%
2%
2%
64%
9%
12,772
32%
55%
12%
17%
53%
72%
20%
5%
3%
9%
53%
17%
9%
50%
66%
8%
17%
16%
54%
6%
95%
5%
18%
82%
4
14,191
88
0.62%
55%
31%
5%
6%
8,725
47%
41%
4%
6%
7,319
44%
40%
2%
1%
51%
4%
5,739
40%
36%
2%
1%
54%
4%
3,152
33%
31%
2%
1%
59%
4%
14,084
33%
54%
12%
22%
52%
58%
38%
3%
1%
13%
60%
15%
4%
47%
66%
9%
17%
21%
49%
4%
94%
6%
28%
72%
5
14,068
-35
-0.25%
60%
23%
7%
6%
6,265
53%
29%
11%
6%
5,970
42%
39%
2%
2%
43%
12%
4,486
39%
37%
2%
2%
45%
12%
2,097
34%
33%
2%
1%
47%
12%
12,192
35%
53%
12%
25%
40%
47%
50%
2%
1%
21%
54%
8%
3%
51%
63%
28%
27%
17%
26%
2%
81%
19%
49%
51%
Total
70,516
494
3.50%
51%
30%
7%
8%
37,783
42%
41%
8%
7%
34,052
39%
36%
3%
2%
50%
8%
26,622
36%
34%
3%
2%
52%
8%
14,419
31%
29%
2%
1%
57%
8%
66,216
34%
54%
12%
21%
46%
57%
37%
4%
2%
14%
56%
13%
5%
49%
65%
15%
20%
19%
41%
4%
85%
15%
34%
66%
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Total Pop
Citizen Voting Age Pop
Voter Registration
(Nov 2020)
Voter Turnout
(Nov 2020)
Voter Turnout
(Nov 2018)
Age
Immigration
Language spoken at home
Education
(among those age 25+)
Household Income
Housing Stats
City of Lake ElsinoreRedistricting 2021-20223/8/2021National Demographics Corporation
2Redistricting Process2*SB 594 would explicitly confirm maps may be adopted by resolution.Step DescriptionTwo Initial HearingsAugust 10 & September 14Held prior to release of draft maps. Education and to solicit input on the communities in the Districts.Census Data ReleaseMid/Late AugustCensus Bureau releases official 2020 Census population data.California Data ReleaseEarly October 2021California Statewide Database releases California’s official ‘prisoner-adjusted’ 2020 redistricting data.Two Draft Map HearingsMarch 8 & March 22Two Public Hearings to discuss and revise the draft maps and to discuss the election sequence.Map AdoptionBy April 17, 2022Final map must be posted at least 7 days prior to adoption.Map adopted via ordinance.*
3Equal PopulationFederal Voting Rights ActNo Racial GerrymanderingMinimize voters shifted to different election yearsRespect voters’ choices / continuity in officeFuture population growthPreserving the core of existing districts1. Federal Laws2. California Criteria for Cities (rank ordered)1.Geographically contiguous2.Undivided neighborhoods and “communities of interest” (Socio-economic geographic areas that should be kept together)3.Easily identifiable boundaries4.Compact(Do not bypass one group of people to get to a more distant group of people)Prohibited:“Shall not favor or discriminate against a political party.”3. Other Traditional Redistricting Principles3Redistricting Rules and Goals
4Initial Draft MapsThree initial draft maps have been developed by NDC, and draft maps submitted from the Public.All of the maps created by NDC have a deviation under the required 10%. NDC Map Green has a deviation of 4.04%NDC Map Purple has a deviation of 7.69%NDC Map Tan has a deviation of 7.68%Public Map 201 has a deviation of 4.57%Public Map 202 has a deviation of 8.30%Public Map 203 has a deviation of 9.62%Public Map 204 has a deviation of 3.50% Existing Districts deviation is 44.29%
5Demographic Summary of Existing DistrictsLake Elsinore Existing DistrictsDistrict 1 2 3 4 5 TotalTotal Pop 11,785 15,042 17,906 11,660 14,123 70,516Deviation from ideal -2,318 939 3,803 -2,443 20 6,246% Deviation -16.44% 6.66% 26.97% -17.32% 0.14% 44.29%Total Pop% Hisp 55.3% 49% 36% 62% 60% 51%% NH White 31% 28% 39% 27% 23% 30%% NH Black 5% 8% 10% 5% 7% 7%% Asian-American 4% 12% 12% 3% 6% 8%Citizen Voting Age PopTotal 5,766 8,481 10,132 7,108 6,296 37,783% Hisp 42% 42% 28% 52% 53% 42%% NH White 43% 41% 49% 39% 29% 41%% NH Black 5% 5% 13% 4% 11% 8%% Asian/Pac.Isl. 6% 11% 9% 3% 6% 7%Voter Registration (Nov 2020)Total 5,328 7,856 9,535 5,349 5,984 34,052% Latino est. 44% 41% 29% 49% 42% 39%% Spanish-Surnamed 40% 37% 26% 45% 39% 36%% Asian-Surnamed 2% 4% 3% 1% 2% 3%% Filipino-Surnamed 2% 2% 2% 1% 2% 2%% NH White est. 51% 48% 57% 47% 43% 50%% NH Black 5% 6% 10% 4% 12% 8%Voter Turnout (Nov 2020)Total 4,037 6,176 7,917 3,998 4,494 26,622% Latino est. 41% 38% 27% 45% 39% 36%% Spanish-Surnamed 37% 35% 25% 41% 37% 34%% Asian-Surnamed 2% 4% 3% 1% 2% 3%% Filipino-Surnamed 2% 2% 3% 1% 2% 2%% NH White est. 53% 50% 58% 50% 45% 52%% NH Black 5% 6% 10% 4% 12% 8%
6NDC Draft Map GreenDate
7NDC Draft Map PurpleDate
8NDC Draft Map TanDate
9Public Map 201Date
10Public Map 202Date
11Public Map 203Date
12Public Map 204Date
13Simple Map Review ToolOnline Interactive Review MapESRI’s “ArcGIS Online” – similar to Google Maps in ease of useUsed to review, analyze and compare maps, not to create themIncludes overlays of “community of interest” and other data13
14DiscussionConduct a Public HearingAny questions on the Draft Maps?Provide direction on what map the Council prefers or new map the Council would like see at the next hearing