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PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
aTY OF LAKE ELSINORE
183 NORTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CA 92530
TUESDAY, JANUARY 4, 2005
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CALL TO ORDER:
Chairman LaPere called the Regular Planning CDmmission Meeting to order at 6:05 PM
CDmmunity Development Director Brady led the Pledge of Allegiance.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: COMMISSIONERS:
LAPERE, LARIMER, UHLRY
O'NEAL
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS:
Also present were: CDmmunity Development Director Brady, Planning/CDde Enforcement
Manager Villa, Engineering Manager Setunalo, Senior Planner Morita, Deputy Gty Attorney Miles
and Rental Housing Oerk Alexen.
PUBLIC COMMENTS
Donna Franson, 7 Villa Valtena, Lake Elsinore, noted that the second issue of the Gtizen's
CDmmittee Newsletter would be out the following week. She further noted that the first general
meeting of the Gtizen's CDmmittee would be held on January 27th at 7:00 p.m. She indicated that
she had received 250 interest cards and that it was their intention to encourage positive growth and
support for the Gty of Lake Elsinore and invited all interested parties to attend.
CONSENT CALENDAR
1. Minutes
a. December 21, 2004 - Regular Planning Commission Meeting Minutes.
CDmmissioner Larimer requested clarification that the date reflected on the Minutes was correct and
stated that she thought the Minutes were from December.
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Commissioner Uhlry explained to Commissioner Larimer that the Minutes that were approved at
the last meeting were the November 16th meeting and the Minutes to be approved presently were
the December 21,2004 meeting.
MOVED BY LARIMER, SECONDED BY UHLRY AND PASSED BY A VOTE OF 3-0
TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR.
BUSINESS ITEMS
2. Residential Project No. 2004-16. Design Review of Model Homes and Production
Units for Tract Map No. 30493 (Crosscreek) and Residential Project No. 2004-17.
Design Review of Model Homes and Production Units for Tract Map No. 31706
(Briarcliff) Within Canyon Hills Specific Plan
Community Development Director Brady gave a brief ovezview of the project and requested the
project planner review it with the Planning Commission.
Senior Planner Morita noted that the project consisted of two residential design reviews and an
eight-unit model home complex. He explained that R2004-16 proposed 127 Single Family Units
and R2004-19 proposed 111 Single Family Units. He indicated the location of these projects in the
Canyon Hills area using the exhibits.
He provided an ovezviewof the design of the eight-unit model home complex and parking lot,
including landscaping and enhancements. He stated that staff supported the proposed project and
recommended approval.
He noted a correction on page four of 74 of the staff report under "b" it should read" ... Spanish,
ltalianarrl Craftsmm lma[!!... "
Ron Nugroho, 10880 WIlshire Blvd, LA, Pardee Homes agreed with and accepted the staff report
and conditions of approval as presented.
Commissioner Larimer stated that she had a few questions and comments for clarification. She
indicated that on page 2 of 72, item lb, she read that "treatments are being offered" and requested
clarification of "offered" and whether the home owners chose the design of the outside of their
homes or if the features were added to the homes as something standard.
Mr. Nugroho explained that the three different exterior elevations were pre-ploned, so the home
owner selected the plan they desired and the exterior elevation had been previously assigned to the
house. '
Commissioner Larimer stated that a problem she had encountered was that the homes are built
close together and her master bath looked into her neighbor's master bath and she wanted to make
sure that would not be a continuos problem.
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Mr. Nugroho confirmed that the problem did not exist due to the plotting of each house. He
indicated that on the floor plan included in the staff report, the windows in the master bath were
located in the rear of the house to give the home owner more privacy.
CDmmissioner Larimer indicated that was good to know. She further indicated that she enjoyed the
bottom left window in the Italian Architectural Style. He noted that on some of the homes there
was an oval shaped window on the bottom floor, but there were no other windows that were oval.
She asked if it was hard to make oval windows on the upstairs for consistency.
Mr. Nugroho stated that it did not make any difference as to the shape of the window as it relates to
the cost of installation. He explained that it was more appropriate in the Italian elevation to put the
half round window on the first floor instead of the second floor.
CDmmissioner Larimer stated that she loved the double-sided fireplace in the Italian elevation. She
further stated that she was glad to see single-story homes. She asked if he worked in the Ladera
Ranch project.
Mr. Nugroho stated that he worked in the Inland Empire region and that there was another division
for the Ladera Ranch project.
CDmmissioner Larimer stated that she loved that project that Pardee Homes did in Ladera Ranch.
CDmmissioner Uhlry stated that, as usual Pardee had done an excellent job. He inquired as to the
time frame for the completion of the bridge in Canyon Hills.
There was brief discussion regarding the completion schedule of the bridge in Canyon Hills.
Chainnan LaPere stated that Mr. Stringer had maintained the excellence that Pardee has been
known for and the he was pleased with the location of the master bath rooms as well as the lot
sizes. He further clarified the placement of the different architectural styles on the plot plan. He
stated that Pardee did an excellent job and noted his excitement as to the completion of the bridge.
There were no additional requests to speak on the project.
Chainnan LaPere requested the reading of the resolutions by CDmmunity Development Director
Brady.
MOVED BY LARIMER, SECONDED BY UHLRY AND PASSED BY A VOTE OF 3-0
TO ADOPT RESOLUTION NO. 2005-1, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING
COMMISSION OF THE aTY OF LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA, APPROVING
RESIDENTIAL PROJECT NO. 2004-16 ,WHICH ENTAILS DESIGN REVIEW OF A
FOUR-PLAN MODEL HOME COMPLEX AND PRODUCTION UNITS WHICH WILL
BE CONSTRUCTED THROUGHOUT U7 SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL LOTS
WITHIN TRACT MAP NO. 30493
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MOVED BY UHLRY, SECONDED BY LARIMER AND PASSED BY A VOTE OF 3-0
TO ADOPT RESOLUTION NO. 2005-2, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING
COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA, APPROVING
RESIDENTIAL PROJECT NO. 2004-17, WHICH ENTAILS DESIGN REVIEW OF A
FOUR-PLAN MODEL HOME COMPLEX AND PRODUCTION UNITS WHICH WILL
BE CONSTRUCTED THROUGHOUT 111 SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL LOTS
WITHIN TRACT MAP NO. 31706
INFORMATIONAL
Community Development Director Brady announced a Study Session scheduled for Thursday,
January 06, 2005 for the mBG allocation at the Cultural Center and a Mid-year Budget Review
scheduled for Thursday, January 20th at 5:00 p.m.
STAFF COMMENTS
NONE
PLANNING COMMISSIONER COMMENTS
Commissioner Uhlry commented on the following:
. Congratulated Community Development Director Brady on his appointment as Interim Gty
Manager and stated that he should have been made permanent Gty Manager;
. He noted a letter the Planning Commission and staff received from Mr. and Mrs. Maisel
regarding the proposed project on Dexter Ave. He noted that the Maisel's had failed to
consider what the Planning Commission wanted to accomplish in the Gty. He further noted
that the Commission had given the Maisel's several recommendations and tried to be
accommodating, however they were proposing an eye-sore.
Commissioner Larimer commented on the following:
. Concurred with Commissioner Uhlrys comments regarding the Maisel's;
. Wtshed everyone Happy New Year.
Chairman LaPere commented on the following:
. Concurred with Commissioner Uhlrys comments regarding the Maisel's letter and noted the
misstatemens contained in the letter. He noted that the applicant inappropriately blamed the
Gty after staffs numerous attempts of accommodating them;
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· Stated that in his humble opinion there was nobody more qualified to run the Gty as Interim
Gty Manager as CDmmunity Development Director Brady and he was hopeful that he
would submit an application for the permanent position;
· Stated that CDmmunity Development Director Brady speaks well for his department and has
a high regard for staff;
· Stated that CDmmunity Development Director Brady was an exceptional leader and the he
could looked forward to that leadership in 2005 and beyond;
· Thanked CDmmunity Development Director Brady for the leadership and the effort he
provided to staff and the Planning CDmmission.
Planning/ CDde Enforcement Manager Villa indicated that the Planning CDmmission would have the
opportunity to address the letter and project submitted by Mr. and Mrs. Maisel at the next Planning
CDmmission Meeting when it is brought back for consideration.
CDmmissioner Larimer asked what the mBG was.
CDmmunity Development Director Brady provided an explanation of the mBG program and what
those funds were used for in the past. He further explained the process for allocation of the funds.
- ADJOURNMENT
THERE BEING NO FURTHER BUSINESS, a-IAIRMAN LAPERE ADJOURNED
THE MEETING AT 6:37 PM ON JANUARY 4,200
Respectfully Submitted,
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Lisa C Alexen r
Rental Housing Oerk
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PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
183 NORTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CA 92530
TUESDAY, JANUARY 18, 2005
CALL TO ORDER:
Chainnan LaPere called the Regular Planning Q)mmission Meeting to order at 6:03 PM
Q)mmissioner Uhlry led the Pledge of Allegiance.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: COMMISSIONERS:
LAPERE, LARIMER, O'NEAL, UHLRY
ABSENT:
COMMISSIONERS:
Also present were: Gty Manager Brady, Planning/ Q)de Enforcement Manager Villa,
Engineering Manager Seumalo, Senior Planner Preisendanz, Associate Planner Q)ury, Planning
Technician Hennings, Deputy Gty Attorney Miles and Rental Housing derk Alexen.
PUBLIC COMMENTS
None.
CONSENT CALENDAR
1. Minutes
a. January 4,2005 - Regular Planning Commission Meeting Minutes.
MOVED BY UHLRY, SECONDED BY LARIMER AND PASSED BY A VOTE OF 4-0
TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR.
PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS
2. General Plan Amendment No. 2004-06. Zone Change No. 2004-07. Tentative Parcel
Map No. 32127: Residential Design Review No. 2004-05. Conditional Use Permit No.
2004-14. and Mitigated Negative Declaration No. 2004-10 for the "Lakeview Villas".
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Chairman LaPere opened the Public Hearing at 6:04 pm.
Gty Manager Brady provided a brief overview of the project and requested the project planner
review it with the Planning Commission.
Senior Planner Preisendanz noted that due to the need for compliance from various outside
agencies, staff recommended that the project be continued until the February 1, 2005 Planning
Commission Meeting.
He noted that he needed to respond to comment letters received by the Pechanga Band of Indians
Riverside County Transportation Commission and Lake Elsinore Unified School District (LEUSD).
Chairman LaPere asked if the applicant was present.
Senior Planner Preisendanz indicated that the applicant was not present; however, he did consent to
the continuance.
Vice Chairman O'Neal requested clarification as to whether the Planning Commissioners received
copies of the above referenced letters.
Senior Planner Preisendanz stated that the letters would be included with the staff report at the
February 1 st meeting as part of the record.
There being no further business, Chairman LaPere closed the Public Hearing at 6:06 pm.
MOVED BY UHLRY, SECONDED BY O'NEAL AND PASSED BY UNANIMOUS
VOTE OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE aTY OF LAKE ELSINORE,
CALIFORNIA TO CONTINUE GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT NO. 2004-06, ZONE
CHANGE NO. 2004-07, TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP NO. 32U7; RESIDENTIAL
DESIGN REVIEW NO. 2004-05, CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 2004-14, AND
MITIGATED NEGATIVE DECLARATION NO. 2004-10 FOR THE "LAKEVIEW
VILLAS" TO THE FEBRUARY 1, 2005 PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING.
3. Zone Change No. 2004-10 and Conditional Use Permit No. 2004-16 (APN 377-110-
052 and -053). (Continued from November 2.2004)
Chainnan LaPere opened the Public Hearing at 6:07 pm
Gty Manager Brady provided a brief overview of the project and requested that the project planner
review it with the Commission.
Planning Technician Hennings provided background infonnation as to the project. She indicated
that staff had received a letter from the applicant on December 26,2004. She further indicated that
the letter was a statement of non-acceptance of the conditions of approval.
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Planning Technician Hennings stated that staff was reconunending denial of Zone Change No.
2004-10 and G:mditional Use Permit No. 2004-16. She noted that the applicant was not present.
Vice Chairman O'Neal requested clarification as to M-1 zoning and how it affected the project.
Planning Technician explained that M-I zoning required a CUP for any outdoor storage or display of
any type material or vehicles.
Conunissioner Larimer asked if staff had any conununication with the applicant since receipt of the
letter.
Planning Technician Hennings indicated that she had not conununicated with the applicant prior to
ra::eipt if the letter, however another planner had. She further indicated that the applicant did not
attempt to speak to her. She noted that the applicant had received all notices and reports pertaining
to this project.
There was discussion addressing staff's attempts at acconunodating the applicant, and the applicant's
unwillingness to comply with the standards set by the Gtyand Planning Conunission for the
project; however fdlawups are ckn to keep atr citizens happy.
Deputy Gty Attorney Miles indicated that in order to reconunend denial of the project, the CUP
would be denied by the Planning Conunission; however, the Planning Conunission would
reconunend denial of the Zone Change to the Gty Council.
There being no further business, Chairman LaPere closed the Public Hearing at 6:20 pm.
MOVED BY UHLRY, SECONDED BY LARIMER AND PASSED BY UNANIMOUS
VOTE TO ADOPT RESOLUTION NO. 2005-3, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING
COMMISSION OF THE OTY OF LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA,
RECOMMENDING TO THE OTY COUNOL OF THE OTY OF LAKE ELSINORE,
CALIFORNIA, DENIAL OF ZONE CHANGE NO. 2004-10 CHANGE OF ZONING
DESIGNATION OF A PARCEL SPEOFICALL Y DESCRIBED IN APN 377-110-025
AND 053 FROM M-1 TO G2.
MOVED BY UHLRY, SECONDED BY LARIMER AND PASSED BY UNANIMOUS
VOTE TO ADOPT RESOLUTION NO. 2005-4, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING
COMMISSION OF THE OTY OF LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA DENYING
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 2004-16 FOR RECREATION VEHICLE SALES
LOT AT 18791 DEXTER AVENUE.
4. Tentative Tract Map No. 33191
Chairman LaPere opened the Public Hearing at 6:21 pm
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Gty Manager Brady provided a brief overview of the proposed project and requested that the
project planner review it with the Commission.
Associate Planner Coury provided an overview of the proposed project. He noted that the applicant
was present and available for questions. He further noted a correction of page seven of 12,
condition no. 14 to read, "The Multiple Species Habitat Conservation Fee (MSHCP) will be due
upon issuance of eadJ building permit."
Evan Mai, 1895 Hunt Canyon Rd., Corona, agreed with the conditions and had no questions or
additions to the staff report as presented.
Commissioner Uhlry commended the applicant for the improvements made to half of the street on
Shrier Dr. The applicant indicated the location of the proposed street and sewer improvements on
Shrier Dr. up to Riverside Dr.
Vice Chairman O'Neal noted his concern with water pressure and fire issues in the Country dub
Heights area. He further noted that his concern should not be construed as unenthusiastic support
for the project.
Commissioner Larimer had no comments.
Chairman LaPere noted his approval for the project. He further noted his concern with the Water
Districts ability to provide service to the homes in the project. He indicated that a week ago,
Monday, a break in the water line at Gunnerson and Ulmer had occurred and the water flowed,
which resulted in potholes on Gunnerson and Ulmer. He stated that he reported the leak to the
District, but to date, the leak had not been fixed. He noted that the potholes were patched by Gty
staff. He noted that these conditions resulting from the leak posed a threat to the safety of the
residents of Country dub Heights.
Chairman LaPere stated that these concerns were no reflection on the applicant or the proposed
project. He requested a study session with the Gty Council to discuss the issues surrounding
Elsinore Water District's inability to provide adequate service to the area residents.
Commissioner Uhlry indicated that Elsinore Water District had problems providing service to their
customers. He further indicated that anyone could approach Elsinore Water District and Elsinore
Valley Municipal Water District with concerns, but that it should be done from the perspective of a
private citizen, not a Planning Commissioner.
Commissioner Uhlry stated that the proposed project should not suffer because of fighting between
two water districts and the lack of water. He further stated that the applicant had a Will-Serve letter,
so the battle should remain between the water districts.
Vice Chairman O'Neal noted that as public officials, they had a higher responsibility to make the
problem known. He noted his concern with water pressure, fire issues and insurance.
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There was further discussion regarding the responsibilities of the Planning Commissioners to
address the Water Districts ability to service the residents, and the safety concerns.
There was discussion regarding the Planning Commission requesting the Gty Council to verify the
adequacy of the utilities service to the residents.
Deputy Gty Attorney Miles indicated that the Will-Serve Letter issued by Elsinore Water District
verified their ability to service the proposed project, however it was the prerogative of the Planning
Commission to request additional documentation from the District.
There being no further business, Chairman LaPere closed the Public Hearing at 6:42 pm.
MOVED BY O'NEAL, SECONDED BY UHLRY AND PASSED BY UNANIMOUS
VOTE TO ADOPT RESOLUTION NO. 2005-5, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING
COMMISSION OF THE OTY OF LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA,
RECOMMENDING TO THE OTY COUNOL OF THE OTY OF LAKE ELSINORE
APPROVAL OF TENTATIVE TRACT MAP NO. 33191.
INFORMATIONAL
Gty Manager Brady reminded the Planning Commissioners that a Mid- Year Budget Review Study
Session was scheduled by the Gty Council for Thursday, January 20th, 2005, and the Chamber
Installation Dinner was scheduled for Saturday, January 220d at 6:00 pm at the Diamond Gub.
Chairman LaPere noted his appreciation to Evan Mai for his patience concerning the discussion
about the water districts. He further noted that Mr. Mai did not cause the Planning Commissioner's
concern with the issues surrounding with the water districts.
STAFF COMMENTS
City Manaw Brady irxiKatai that he umld talk to the City Manaw ctbaJt setting up a mfting uith the'imter
distrias.
PLANNING COMMISSIONER COMMENTS
Commissioner Larimer commented on the following:
. Stated that she would miss Dick and Marlene;
. Stated that the reason she joined the Planning Commission was to get answers to her
questions and making the community more beautiful;
. She read a notice from the County of Riverside requesting volunteers for Homeless Census
Project;
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. Said to "keep hope alive."
Commissioner Uhlry commented on the follmving:
. Stated that Elsinore Water District had a sore spot with the Commission for some time and
pressure from the Commissioners could bring them to an agreement to service the
community better;
. Congratulated Gty Manager Brady;
. Stated he would miss Dick and Marlene;
. Thanked Mr. Mai for bringing the project forward and allowing the discussion regarding
Elsinore Water District.
Commissioner Larimer noted that prior to her appointment to the Planning Commission, her
experience with Gty staff was positive and she received the best customer service. She further
requested that Gty Manager Brady and Gty staff go the extra mile. She congratulated Mr. Brady.
Commissioner O'Neal commented on the following:
. Stated that his record was 22-1 due to the fact that he missed the previous Planning
Commission Meeting;
. Congratulated Gty Manager Brady stated that he would do an effective and cool job;
. Requested the timeline for the new Planning Commissioner
Gty Manager Brady stated that the interviews were scheduled for Friday, January 28th and the
recommendation would be made to the Gty Council on February? He noted that the swearing in
could be done at the following Planning Commission Meeting.
. Stated that a group of people in the Country dub Heights area lost $3000.00 to $5000.00
per day during the debacle the prior month as a result of Elsinore Water District;
. Stated that residents were joining to petition to get rid of Elsinore Water District.
Chairman LaPere commented on the following:
. Stated that anyone who wanted to review the record relating to the denial of Mr. Maisel and
the fire safety issues in the Country dub Heights area;
. Thanked staff for their efforts in preparing materials for the Planning Conunission Meeting
and noted that it was detailed and not easy;
. Stated that the petitioners in the Country dub Heights area could have a positive effect in
raising concerns to Elsinore Water District, which could lead to a resolution;
. Stated that safety was a major concern to the Planning Commissioners and the Gty Council
and they had a responsibility to the residents of the community.
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ADJOURNMENT
THERE BEING NO FURTHER BUSINESS, CHAIRMAN LAPERE ADJOURNED
THE MEETING AT 6:53 PM ON JANUARY 18, roO
Respectfully Submitted,
7f~tJ. -/ { rJ hpfiJ
Lisa C Alexen
Rental Housing Oerk
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MINUTES
PLANNING COMMISSION MEE TING
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
183 NORTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CA 92530
TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 1, 2005
CALL TO ORDER:
Chairman LaPere called the Regular Planning Commission Meeting to order at 6:10 PM
OATH OF OFFICE:
GtyOerk/Human Resource Director Kasad administered the Oath of Office to John Gonzales.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE:
Commissioner Gonzales led the Pledge of Allegiance.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: COMMISSIONERS:
LAPERE, GONZALES, LARIMER, O'NEAL
UHLRY
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS:
Also present were: Gty Manager Brady, Planning/ Code Enforcement Manager Villa,
Engineering Manager Seumalo, Senior Planner Preisendanz, Associate Planner Miller, Associate
Planner Coury, Planning Technician Hennings, Deputy Gty Attorney Miles.
PUBLIC COMMENTS
None.
CONSENT CALENDAR
1. Minutes
a. January 18, 2005 - Regular Planning Commission Meeting Minutes.
Commissioner Larimer requested that on page three of seven, paragraph five the words prior to rwipt
if the letter be added. She asked to include that fdlowups are m to krep our citizens happy in paragraph
six of the same page. She indicated that the appointment date for Commissioner Gonzales needed
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to be changed to February 2nd from February 7th. She addressed comments made by Chairman
LaPere and requested clarification.
Chairman LaPere explained he had a discussion with Mr. Maisel after Vice Chairman O'Neal had
spent about four hours with him. He noted his concern with the inappropriateness of the letter Mr.
Maisel sent reflecting the efforts staff had made. He further noted his concern with the fire safety
issues in the Country dub Heights area as it relates to the Water District and the Will-Serve Letter.
Commissioner Larimer asked that the minutes reflect more accurately what was said at the Planning
Commission Meetings.
Vice Chairman O'Neal had no comment.
Commissioner Gonzales had no comment.
Chairman LaPere stated that he had no further comments.
MOVED BY O'NEAL, SECONDED BY GONZALES AND PASSED BY A VOTE OF 3-1,
WITH LARIMER CASTING THE OPPOSING VOTE TO APPROVE THE JANUARY
18,2005 PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING MINUTES AS AMENDED.
PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS
2. Mitigated Negative Declaration No. 2004-10. General Plan Amendment No. 2004-06.
Zone Change No. 200+07. Tentative Condominium Map No. 32U7: Residential
Design Review No. 2004-05. and Conditional Use Permit No. 2004-14. for the
"Lakeview Villas".
Chairman LaPere opened the Public Hearing at 6:18 pm.
Gty Manager Brady gave an overview of the proposed project and requested that Senior Planner
Preisendanz review the item with the Commission and answer any questions.
Senior Planner Preisendanz noted the project title of Lakeview Villas. He noted that the project
included 155 attached condominium units located east of 1-15 and south of the Railroad Canyon Rd.
/ Grape St interchange. He noted the six applications submitted and provided a brief overview of
each application. He noted that the project would result in significant environmental impacts and
that the applicant was requesting certification of the attached mitigation monitoring program.
Senior Planner Preisendanz noted that project and all associated improvements exceeded the
requirements of the Lake Elsinore Municipal Code. He indicated that staff, the city attorney and
environmental consultants have been working arduously to meet the requirements of the Multiple
Species Habitat Conservation Plan (MSHCP). He noted that this project was the first to make it
through the Lake Elsinore Acquisition Process and to the Regional Conservation Authority for Joint
Project Review. He further noted the support from the Regional Conservation Authority, however
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it had not completed its fonnal process through the Joint Project Review. He indicated that
Condition No. 32 addresses the Gtis requirement that the applicant provide sufficient evidence to
the Gty for the conservation area identified. Senior Planner Preisendanz noted that the applicant
was present and disagreed with Condition No. 32.
Scott Woodward, Woodward Investments, 41391 Kalmia St., Murrieta. Noted his most recent
project was Sycamore Oeek at Indian Truck Trail off I -15. He further noted a pending application
for a project at Lake St. & I -15, known as The Village that needed to be annexed by the Gty. He
noted that the project before the Commission was on 28 acres and included several applications. He
presented a PowerPoint Presentation to the Commission detailing the project.
Mr. Woodward noted that 1/100th of an acre would be considered jurisdictional and they may be
required to go under the Army Corp. 404 Permit under a nationwide application. He noted the
positive relationship he had with staff as it related to the project. He addressed Condition No. 32
and stated that they were in compliance with the MSHCP. He noted that the cell criteria was 70% -
80% of the total cell to be conserved and 20% - 30% to be developed. He further noted that the
location of the conservation area was required to be in the northern portion which would put the
development in the southern portion of the area. He noted that the conservation would consist of
73% under the plan which would leave 117 acres outside of the development to be conserved under
MSHCP. He noted the LEAPS application submitted to the ReA. He stated that they did not agree
with the requirement to go offsite and purchase property to comply with MSHCP. He noted that
their obligation to the Gtywas to meet the cell criteria and pay the necessary fees. He stated that his
company had met with the Gty Attorney and they are at an impasse; however it was his intention to
work something out relative to the condition, and thanked the Commission for their time.
Ed Sauls, Conservation Management, Inc., 742 Summit Dr., Laguna Beach. He stated his position
as an expert on the Multi Species Plan and explained his background with the MSHCP. He noted
that Condition No. 32 was inappropriate. He stated that there were no requirements in the MSHCP
which obligate Mr. Woodward's project to conserve his neighbor's property. He further stated that
the project was consistent with the MSHCP as stated by staff and the ReA, although no fonnal
written approval had been completed by the ReA. He indicated that there was no reason to delay
the project while waiting for the fonnal Joint Project Review. He noted that the adjacent property
owner requested that the Gty or the RCA purchase his property and was in negotiations regarding
the purchase price. He further noted that the property owner was supportive of the project and the
related issues. He asked that Condition No. 32 be removed and the project approved.
Chainnan LaPere confirmed that the applicant agreed with the staff report and remaining
conditions, other than Condition No. 32.
COMMISSIONER COMMENTS
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Vice Chairman O'Neal requested clarification as to the traffic impact on the Grape St/Railroad
Canyon Rd. interchange. Engineering Manager Seumalo stated that the impacts were mitigated
through the conditions. Vice Chairman O'Neal requested that Deputy Gty Attorney Miles interpret
Omdition No. 32.
Commissioner Larimer asked Engineering Manager Seumalo about traffic and what was happening
in 2025. Engineering Manager Seumalo stated that 2025 was the build out for the interchange at
Railroad Canyon Rd. He provided an overview of the improvements scheduled for the area.
Commissioner Larimer asked why it took 20 years to do improvements. Engineering Manager
Seumalo provided an overview of the process and the time table for the proposed improvements.
He indicated that the Gty had completed the first stage of the improvements when the requirements
changed; therefore the Gty lost 18 months of time spent on the improvement project. He further
indicated that 2025 was the date of the projected traffic volumes, as per Cal- Trans, and the
improvements would be built to accommodate the traffic for that date.
Commissioner Larimer requested clarification for the letter written regarding the Indian remains.
Mr. Woodward stated that it was a standard routine letter sent throughout the area influenced by the
Pechanga Tribe. Senior Planner Preisendanz stated that Pechanga always commented on mitigation
monitoring programs. There was discussion regarding the process for notification when artifacts
were discovered, and the tribal monitor.
Wendy Worthy, HDR Environmental Consultants, provided an explanation of the process to
include comments from Pechanga and the tribal monitor's position in the development projects.
Vice Chairman O'Neal noted a tribal burial ground near Canyon Hills.
Commissioner Gonzales stated that Grape St. was a dangerous spot due to the limited visibility.
Engineering Manager Seumalo noted that the topic was discussed and would be addressed.
Commissioner Gonzales requested clarification as to the security of the gated community. Senior
Planner Preisendanz noted that the topography provided some security and the gate was for vehicle
traffic. He acknowledged that although the back of the site was not monitored, the police and fire
departments would assist in providing adequate security. Commissioner Gonzales addressed weed
abatement and the HOA's responsibility to maintain the area. He confirmed that the HOA would
be formed prior to first occupancy.
Mr. Woodward stated that legal formation of the HOA took place upon closing of escrow. He
explained that the Department of Real Estate required the HOA fees to be paid by the homeowners
of the first phase with an additional a requirement to have a property management company in
place. He noted that the developer holds three seats on the HOA Board and the other two seats are
held by members of the community.
Commissioner LaPere addressed page 8 of 111 and 9 of 111 regarding affordable housing
requirements. Mr. Woodward indicated that the homes in the project were not in the moderate or
affordable price range. Chairman LaPere clarified that the average cost of the homes was between
$250,000 and $350,000. He further asked how in-lieu fees were calculated.
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Gty Manager Brady explained the lnclusionary Housing Ordinance for the Redevelopment Agency
and how the fees were calculated. He explained that the intent of the affordable housing clause was
to close the gap in affordability, not necessarily to provide the units at a reduced rate.
Chainnan LaPere clarified the cost per unit and the amount the developer would pay on the 15% of
fees in lieu of building affordable housing. Gty Manager Brady noted that the fee was based on the
total square footage of the project. Chainnan LaPere addressed page 11 of 111 regarding compact
parking. He noted that the project was beautiful and very well laid out.
DEPUfYOTY ATTORNEY COMMENTS
Deputy Gty Anomey Miles provided a background of the project. He noted that the property had
been known as the Zuckerman property, which was entirely an MSHCP cell. When the property
was sold to Mr. Woodward it became a challenge for the Gty to maintain consistency and
compliance with the MSHCP. He indicated that the most developable portion of the cell was sold
to Mr. Woodward which left the remaining area for conservation. He stated that the two steps to
the analysis are that the Commission wants to ensure compliance with the criteria area with respect
to the project; the second is that the Commission needed to ensure compliance with the MSHCP's
conservation goals. He noted the need to look at the cell and analyze the end result of the project
without Condition No. 32, which would result in zero acres of conservation. He further noted the
possibility of an assurance that the remainder property would go through an acquisition process;
however the entidement within the cell being requested for approval drafted without Condition No.
32 would result in zero acres of conservation in the cell.
He stated that Condition No. 32 was drafted largely by the RCA after much discussion, and it
became clear that in concept it would not work He noted that after meeting with the applicant and
the ReA, the Gtydecided to use an MSHCP fee credit to be used to specifically acquire a portion of
the Zuckerman property in the cell in order to assure that there would be definite conservation
inside the cell.
Deputy Gty Anomey Miles noted that it was the decision of the Planning Commission to send the
project to the Gty Council; however he had additional conditions of approval for the record and a
modification to the Mitigated Negative Declaration.
Senior Planner Preisendanz indicated that the applicant was not aware of the additional conditions
proposed. He stated that the additional Condition No. 31 would read: "In aa:ardarKE Wth the atrrent
LEAP prwss, awidarKE nitigaion 11'R1Sure5 am cJ:her suitable nitigaion 11'R1Sure5 shall be ag;m:l to by the
applit:ant upon final detemination if existingjurisdictional waers subjoct to city Oxmil apprm.nl" and New
Condition No. 32 would read, "Inaa:ardarKE Wth the atrrent LEAP prwss, cunsenution if onsite Riwsidean
Saw Scmb shall be ag;m:l to by the applit:ant in acreaW arramts to be detemimi by the City Oxmil. "
Deputy Gty Anomey Miles clarified that there were 21.3 acres of Riversidean Sage Scrub on the
project site as well as 0.01 acres of potential jurisdictional waters. He referred to page 34 of the
Mitigated Negative Declaration that described the jurisdictional area. He advised the Gty to include
a Condition of Approval which would address what mitigation may be required under 404
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processes, 1602 processes, and Riverean Riparian processes under the MSHCP. He noted that the
first condition of approval was a place saver measure that would allow mitigation upon
determination of the extent of jurisdictional water on site. He further noted that the second
condition allows review of the project while there is no mitigation. He recommended striking the
last sentence from the mitigation measure as, "If the applicant is required to provide on-site or off-
site mitigation for impacts to critical habitat or sensitive habitat required under state, union, or
federal regulations, and the applicants obligation for such MSHCP mitigation fees shall be credited
for the cost to acquire and preserve such onsite and/or offsite mitigation." He noted the
uncertainty as to the right the Gty had to grant fee credits. He noted recent RCA policy efforts to
approve fee credit considerations where if the Gty granted an unauthorized fee credit, the Gty
would be responsible to make up the difference.
Deputy Gty Attorney Miles addressed comments made by Mr. Sauls. He noted that under the
MSHCP, the verbal ok from the RCA was not relevant. He further noted that the Joint Project
Review process initiated a timing problem because that process allowed the RCA to formally
comment on the Commissions determination. He indicated that the County had control over the
MSHCP Board and that he hoped that Ms. Lowe would work with the Gty. He addressed Mr.
Saul's comment regarding the Zuckerman acquisition process under way. He noted that under the
MSHCP any acquisition of the Zuckerman property would go through the Gty's LEAP process, so
there was no conceptual acquisition for the remainder of that cell. He indicated that the project was
going forward for entitlement with a density increase, and there was zero acreage to be conserved.
He further indicated that the Gtywould inherit Mr. Zuckerman and his acquisition efforts. He
further noted that this could be ok, however he wanted to minimize having to tell the "second
property owner to the well" that they had no options. He noted that staff worked with the applicant
to come up with an alternative that would apply their MSHCP fees to acquisition in the cell and that
was difficult due to coordination with the ReA. He agreed that Condition No. 32 was not the
appropriate condition to go with, because was unrealistic. He noted that he offered two alternative
conditions of approval and offered to answer any questions.
Ed Sauls thanked the Deputy Gty Attorney for his input. He stated that in order for a project to be
acquired, it must go through the LEAPS process. He noted that there were other processes to allow
for acquisition. He suggested that the project move forward to Gty Council for consideration and
continue to work out the differences. He noted that the Gty had the authority to make the
interpretation of the MSHCP, and RCA advised the Gty; therefore the Gty could move the project
forward without the Joint Project Review. He noted that the verbal support came from Senior
Planner Preisendanz reflecting his discussion with the RCA staff. He stated that he would like the
opportunity to work out the differences with staff.
Scott Woodward noted that only 400 square feet of the property was considered jurisdictional water
while the overall project exceeded a million square feet. He noted that his consultant contacted the
Army Corp. of Engineers to inspect the site for jurisdictional waters. He further noted that if the
Corp. deemed it jurisdictional, they would comply with their requirements. He indicated that the
applicant agreed to mitigation measures to be determined by Gty Council related to the Sage Scrub.
He noted that the habitat on the site is disturbed and there was no occupation, therefore nothing on
the Endangered Species List required preservation unless it occupied the area, and the property was
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not occupied. He stated that he did not agree to Deputy Gty Miles' second comment relating to
further mitigation pertaining to fees and on-site conservation.
Chairman LaPere requested clarification as to ownership of the property.
Deputy Gty Attorney Miles stated that Mr. Woodward owned 27 acres.
Chairman LaPere asked how the MSH~ requirements related to each cell and setting aside of the
conservatIon area.
Deputy Gty Attorney Miles indicated that the quantitative criteria conservation requirement is 70% -
80%, so the conservation goals for that cell have been met. He further indicated that the difference
in opinion was that there is no assurance that 73% had been conserved.
Chairman LaPere stated that the owner of the remaining portion of the cell could conserve.
Deputy Gty Attorney Miles concurred, however the struggle came from Mr. Woodward not looking
at the site versus the cell. The various government agencies can utilize their traditional land use and
police powers to require mitigation rather than automatically go to acquisition.
Chairman LaPere clarified that if Mr. Zuckennan provided written assurance of his awareness that
he cannot develop his property due to the MSH~, the developers could go forward with their
project.
Deputy Gty Attorney Miles noted that if control of the conveyance of the Z uckennan property was
in place with an enforceable agreement, there would be no impediment to the development going
forward.
Chairman LaPere stated that conservation area in the project was close to 80%.
Deputy Gty Attorney Miles confirmed that the remainder portion of the property in the cell could
not be developed as it would be required for conservation in accordance with the cell criteria.
Chairman LaPere recessed the Planning Commission Meeting at 7:47 pm for five minutes and
reconvened at 7:54 pm.
Chairman LaPere asked if it would be appropriate to ask the applicant for a document to assure that
the remaining property in the cell would be dedicated to habitat.
Mr. Woodward stated that the applicant should not be burdened with the agreement. He reiterated
that the cell criteria had been met and the conservation area was described. He indicated that Mr.
Zuckennan had submitted a letter to the Oty regarding his desire to sell the property. He further
stated that it was the Oty's responsibility to contact Mr. Zuckennan about this matter, not the
applicants.
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Chairman LaPere clarified that the new conditions, No. 31 and 32, written by Deputy Gty Attorney
Miles would replace Condition No. 32.
Deputy Gty Attorney Miles concurred.
Chairman LaPere asked the applicant if he understood new Condition 31 and 32.
Mr. Woodward agreed with Condition No. 31; however he objected to new Condition No. 32 and
referred to Mr. Sauls for the explanation.
Mr. Sauls referred to the MSHCP HANS process. He noted that the project was either consistent
or inconsistent. He further noted that staff was in agreement that the project was consistent with
the MSHCP. He noted the Gty's desire to add inappropriate conditions, and when staff was in
agreement that the project was consistent with the MSHCP. He read from HANS process to clarify
that the development of the property in the cell could proceed without acquirement. He further
clarified that Mr. Zuckennan understood that his propertywas to be conserved under MSHCP. Mr.
Sauls stated that he had submitted a proposed purchase agreement to staff and the Gty Attorney for
acquisition of the Zuckennan property. He indicated that Mr. Zuckennan had offered his property
for sale to the Riverside County Economic Development Agency and the agreements had been
submitted to the Regional Conservation Agency for purchase of the property. He noted that putting
a condition on the project that addressed the adjacent property was inappropriate.
Deputy Gty Attorney Miles stated that in the event that the property was owned by one property
owner, dedication would be required for conservation. He indicated that the Gty could consider
future problems arising from the fact that there was no developable portion of the cell remaining.
He further noted that to assure some conservation, a condition needed to be in place to at least
allow for consideration of habitat conservation on site. He stated that the location of the 400 square
feet of conservation was yet to be determined. He further noted that payment of the MSHCP fee is
not the "beginning and end" of mitigation for project specific impacts.
Chairman LaPere requested clarification of new Condition No. 32.
Deputy Gty Attorney Miles explained that the new condition served as a place-saver whereby the
Gty Council could determine that, if mitigation was needed, a certain amount of mitigation would
be required of the project. Condition No. 31 addressed mitigation for potential impacts to
jurisdictional waters and Omdition No. 32 addressed mitigation for potential impacts to Riversidean
Sage Scrub. He noted that it would allow the applicant to go forward to Gty Council.
Vice Chairman O'Neal clarified that the project could move forward with two exceptions to be
worked out prior to taking it to Gty Council.
Mr. Sauls stated that the 26 acres was mitigated by the MSHCP fee payment. He further noted that
there was no further obligation to consider the 26 acres.
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Chainnan LaPere stated that in order for the project to move forward, the applicant and the Gty
Anorney needed to work out their differences pertaining to new G:mdition No.'s 31 and 32.
Mr. Woodward concurred with Chainnan LaPere and noted his concerns with new Condition No.
32 as stated by Mr. Sauls. He further noted his support in alternatives being brought forward,
consideration, and the progress being made with regards to an agreement
COMMISSIONER COMMENTS
Vice Chainnan O'Neal stated his support for the project and the funds at stake for the applicant;
however he noted his allegiance with Deputy Gty Anorney Miles' advice. He noted that he
supported moving the project forward to Gty Council using the new conditions and resolving the
issues prior to the Gty Council meeting. He stated that it was a fair compromise and if the issues
could not be resolved the project would not go the Gt y Council for consideration. He stated that it
was a great project and the applicant deserved to move forward.
Commissioner Larimer noted her concerns for pushing the project through. She indicated that the
Commission should be dealing with the issues prior to the Gty Council, because they have enough
to deal with.
Chainnan LaPere clarified that the motion was to recommend approval to the Gty Council provided
that the issues with new Condition No.'s 31 and 32 were resolved, and if those issues were not
resolved, the project would not go to Gty Council.
Commissioner Larimer stated that the focus had been on the MSHCP, but not the concerns of real
citizens who do not care about the MSHCP; the citizen's care more about traffic and the Indians
care about human remains. She stated that there was a lot of jargon going on and that the Gty
Anorney said a lot of good things and the applicant said a lot of good things, but that she made
decisions for herself. She stated that this stuff was not clear. She stated that the Commission
needed to take everything that had been said, think about it, do research and come to a conclusion.
She stated that there were two different opinions and she did not know the applicant; they were all
adults that needed to make their own decisions. She stated that moving the project forward was not
the best thing and that she needed two more weeks to think about it.
Gt Manager Brady noted his understanding of Commissioner Larimer's concerns and concurred
with the complexity of the project. He noted the time spent by staff and the applicant. He indicated
that the only issue not in agreement was the new Condition No. 32. He further indicated that
questions addressing the zone change or the general plan amendment could be brought forward,
however there were no requests to address the Planning Commission submined by any residents.
He stated that staff had worked to resolve all issues prior to bringing the project before the
Commission and the only issue remaining was the MSHCP.
Commissioner Larimer concurred with Gty Manager Brady regarding the work done by staff on the
project. She noted that she got the agenda on Friday and was expected to make a decision by
Tuesday. She further noted that staff had the project for a year and expected her to make a wise
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decision, but it was not enough time for her. She stated that maybe she agreed with the applicant
and maybe she agreed with the attorney, but she did not know. She asked why she did not have two
weeks to review the project, but only a weekend. She did not agree with pushing things along, and
what would two weeks hurt? She stated that she may be out voted but at least she had her say.
MOVED BY O'NEAL, SECONDED BY GONZALES AND PASSED WITH BY A VOTE
OF 3-1 WITH LARIMER CASTING THE OPPOSING VOTE THAT THE PLANNING
COMMISSION OF THE OTY OF LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA, RECOMMEND
TO THE OTY COUNOL OF THE OTY OF LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA,
APPROVAL OF MITIGATED NEGATIVE DECLARATION NO. 2004-10, GENERAL
PLAN AMENDMENT NO. 2004-06, ZONE CHANGE NO. 2004-07, TENTATIVE
CONDOMINIUM MAP NO. 32U7; RESIDENTIAL DESIGN REVIEW NO. 2004-05,
AND CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 2004-14, FOR THE "LAKEVIEWVILLAS",
REMOVING CONDITION NO. 32 AND ADDING NE W CONDITION NO.'S 31 AND
32.
There being no further business, Chairman LaPere closed the Public Hearing at 8:18 pm.
Gty Manager Brady indicated that there were a number of Resolutions before the Q)llunission
which would include any modifications to the Conditions.
MOVED BY O'NEAL, SECONDED BY GONZALES AND PASSED BY A
VOTE OF 3-1 WITH LARIMER CASTING THE OPPOSING VOTE TO
ADOPT RESOLUTION NO. 2005-6, A RESOLUTION OF THE
PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE OTY OF LAKE ELSINORE,
CALIFORNIA, RECOMMENDING TO THE OTY COUNOL
ADOPTION OF MITIGATED NEGATIVE DECLARATION 2004-10 FOR
THE PROJECf KNOWN AS GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT NO. 2004-
06; ZONE CHANGE 2004-07; TENTATIVE CONDOMIMIUM MAP NO.
32U7; RESIDENTIAL DESIGN REVIEW NO. 2004-05; AND
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 2004-14 LOCATED WITHIN
ASSESSOR PARCEL NUMBER(S) 363-240-005 THRU 007, 363-240-010
THRU 015, and 363-250-001 THRU OU.
MOVED BY O'NEAL, SECONDED BY GONZALES AND PASSED BY A
VOTE OF 3-1 WITH LARIMER CASTING THE OPPOSING VOTE TO
ADOPT RESOLUTION NO. 2005-7, A RESOLUTION OF THE
PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE OTY OF LAKE ELSINORE,
CALIFORNIA, RECOMMENDING TO THE OTY COUNOL OF THE
OTY OF LAKE ELSINORE APPROVAL OF GENERAL PLAN
AMENDMENT NO. 2004-06 AMENDING THE LAND USE
DESIGNATION OF THE PARCELS IDENTIFIED AS ASSESSOR
PARCEL NUMBER(S) 363-240-005 THRU 007, 363-240-010 THRU 015, 363-
250-001 THRU OU, FROM VERY LOW DENSITY (VLD) RESIDENTIAL
TO MEDIUM DENSITY (MD) RESIDENTIAL.
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MOVED BY O'NEAL, SECONDED BY GONZALES AND PASSED BY A
VOTE OF 3-1 WITH LARIMER CASTING THE OPPOSING VOTE TO
ADOPT RESOLUTION NO. 2005-8, A RESOLUTION OF THE
PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE OTY OF LAKE ELSINORE,
CALIFORNIA, RECOMMENDING TO THE OTY COUNOL OF THE
OTY OF LAKE ELSINORE APPROVAL OF ZONE CHANGE NO. 2004-
07 CHANGING THE ZONING DESIGNATION OF THE P ARCEL(S)
SPEOFICALL Y DESCRIBED AS ASSESSOR PARCEL NUMBER(S) 363-
240-005 THRU 007,363-240-010 THRU 015,363-250-001 THRU 012 FROM R-
1 SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT TO R-2 MEDIUM
DENSITY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT UNDER THE ZONING
ORDINANCE.
MOVED BY GONZALES, SECONDED BY O'NEAL AND PASSED BY A
VOTE OF 3-1 WITH LARIMER CASTING THE OPPOSING VOTE TO
ADOPT RESOLUTION NO. 2005-9, A RESOLUTION OF THE
PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE OTY OF LAKE ELSINORE,
CALIFORNIA, RECOMMENDING OTY COUNOL APPROVAL OF
TENTATIVE CONDOMINIUM MAP NO. 32127 FOR THE "LAKEVIEW
VILLAS" LOCATED ON THE EAST SIDE OF GRAPE STREET AND
SOUTH OF THE RAILROAD CANYON ROAD/GRAPE STREET
INTERSECTION, ASSESSOR PARCEL NUMBER (S) 363-240-005 THRU
007,363-240-010 THRU 015,363-250-001 THRU 012.
MOVED BY GONZALES, SECONDED BY O'NEAL AND PASSED BY A
VOTE OF 3-1 WITH LARIMER CASTING THE OPPOSING VOTE TO
ADOPT RESOLUTION NO. 2005-10, A RESOLUTION OF THE
PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE OTY OF LAKE ELSINORE,
CALIFORNIA, RECOMMENDING OTY COUNOL APPROVAL OF
RESIDENTIAL DESIGN REVIEW NO. 2004-05 FOR THE DESIGN,
CONSTRUCTION AND ESTABLISHMENT OF THE "LAKEVIEW
VILLAS" LOCATED ON THE EAST SIDE OF GRAPE STREET AND
SOUTH OF THE RAILROAD CANYON ROAD/GRAPE STREET
INTERSECTION, ASSESSOR PARCEL NUMBER(S) 363-240-005 THRU
007,363-240-010 THRU 015,363-250-001 THRU 012.
MOVED BY GONZALES, SECONDED BY O'NEAL AND PASSED BY A
VOTE OF 3-1 WITH LARIMER CASTING THE OPPOSING VOTE TO
ADOPT RESOLUfION NO. 2005-11, A RESOLUfION OF THE
PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE OTY OF LAKE ELSINORE,
CALIFORNIA, APPROVING CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 2004-14
FOR THE ESTABLISHMENT OF THE "LAKEVIEW VILLAS",
LOCATED ON THE EAST SIDE OF GRAPE STREET AND SOUfH OF
THE RAILROAD CANYON ROAD/GRAPE STREET INTERSECTION,
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ASSESSOR PARCEL NUMBER(S) 363-240-005 THRU 007, 363-240-010
THRU 015, 363-250-001 THRU OU.
MOVED BY GONZALES, SECONDED BY O'NEAL AND PASSED BY A
VOTE OF 3-1 WITH LARIMER CASTING THE OPPOSING VOTE TO
ADOPT RESOLUTION NO. 2005- U, A RESOLUTION OF THE
PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE OTY OF LAKE ELSINORE,
CALIFORNIA, RECOMMENDING TO THE OTY COUNOL
ADOPTION OF FINDINGS OF CONSISTENCY WITH THE
MULTIPLE SPEOES HABITAT CONSERVATION PLAN (MSHCP)
CONTAINED WITHIN LEAP NO. 2005-01 FOR THE PROJECT
KNOWN AS "LAKEVIEWVILLAS".
3. Tentative Partel Map No. 31901
Chairman LaPere opened the Public Hearing at 8:24 pm.
Gty Manager Brady requested Associate Planner Gmry review the project with the Commission and
answer any queStIons.
Associate Planner Coury provided a brief overview of the proposed project and the location.
Gordon Duncan, D & D Cattle 31566 Railroad Cyn. Rd. Canyon Lake, stated that he read and
agreed with the staff report and Conditions of Approval.
COMMISSIONER COMMENTS
Vice Chairman O'Neal concurred with staff's recommendation on the project.
Commissioner Larimer stated that the project looked good.
Commissioner Gonzales requested clarification as to the purpose of the buildings.
Mr. Duncan indicated that the buildings were designed for light manufacturing or warehouse
purposes.
Commissioner Gonzales stated that they looked good.
Chairman LaPere concurred with the Commission and staff's recommendation.
There being no further business, Chairman LaPere closed the Public Hearing at 8:28 pm.
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MOVED BY GONZALES, SECONDED BY LARIMER AND PASSED BY
UNANIMOUS TO ADOPT RESOLUTION NO. 2005-13, A RESOLUTION
OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE OTY OF LAKE
ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA, RECOMMENDING TO THE OTY
COUNOL OF THE OTY OF LAKE ELSINORE APPROVAL OF
TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP NO. 31901.
BUSINESS ITEMS
4. Commercial Project No. C 2004-11. Kentucky Fried Chicken/Taco Bell
Gty Manager Brady requested that Associate Planner Miller review the project with the Corrunission
and answer any questions.
Associate Planner Miller provided a background and description of the proposed project. She noted
that the proposed changes to the sign were more festive; however the changes were part of the
corporate image.
Chairman LaPere noted his appreciation of the applicant's patience while waiting for their project to
be brought forward.
Brian Bowles, G.unmings Signs, 1495 Columbia Avenue, Riverside, noted that G.unmings Signs
applied for the permit. He read and agreed with the staff report and Conditions of Approval.
Corrunissioner Larimer stated that she did not like many signs, but she liked "The Colonel". She
noted her concern with the red and white roof.
Corrunissioner O'Neal asked Mr. May how many operating days he lost due to water issues.
Mr. May indicated that the business was closed two and one half days due to water issues.
Corrunissioner O'Neal stated his support for the project and the red and white stripes on the roof.
Corrunissioner Gonzales noted that Mr. May had been one of his students. He stated his support
for the project.
Chainnan LaPere stated his support for the project. He requested an estimate of lost revenues due
to the water issues.
Mr. May indicated that the loss was approximately $1500.00 in profit.
Chairman LaPere inquired as to the number of employees he paid for the period of time the water
was shut off.
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Mr. May provided a summary of the employees he paid during that time noted the total loss at
$8,000.00 to $9,000.00.
Mr. Brady noted that this discussion was off of the subject of the proposed project and should not
be discussed.
Chainnan LaPere concurred.
MOVED BY LARIMER, SECONDED BY GONZALES AND PASSED BY
UNANIMOUS TO ADOPT RESOLUTION NO. 2005-14, A RESOLUTION
OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE OTY OF LAKE
ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA, APPROVING MINOR DESIGN REVIEW
FOR COMMEROAL PROJECf NO. C 2004-11, A REMODEL OF
KENTUCKY FRIED CHICKEN/TACO BELL RESTAURANT LOCATED
AT 3U57 RIVERSIDE DRIVE -APN 379-222-023 & 024.
INFORMATIONAL
STAFF COMMENTS
Gt)" Manager Brady commented on the following:
. Welcomed John Gonzales as the newly appointed Planning Commissioner;
. Stated that he appreciated all of the Commissioner's review of the reports and the questions
brought forward;
. Noted that staff worked diligently to bring complete projects to the Commission to make
their jobs easier.
Planning/ Code Enforcement Manager Villa commented on the following:
. Welcomed Commissioner John Gonzales to the team.
PLANNING COMMISSIONER COMMENTS
Commissioner Larimer commented on the following:
. Welcomed Commissioner Gonzales;
. Stated that she did not attend the Gtizen's Committee Meeting, and asked that anyone who
attended the meeting let her know what happened;
. Congratulated Dan Uhlry for winning Gtizen of the Year;
. Stated that she will miss Dana Porche';
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. Addressed the signs for the public storage facility and the flea market at Washington Mutual
Bank;
Gty Manager Brady provided an explanation for the signs and the flea market term.
. Mentioned the second base at McVicker Park;
Gty Manager Brady stated that the matter had been addressed.
. O:mgratulated Chairman LaPere as the best dancer at the Chamber Installation Dinner;
. Thanked the people for allowing her be her.
Commissioner O'Neal commented on the following:
. Welcomed Commissioner Gonzales and noted the coincidence that three of the
Commissioners lived about 100 feet from each other;
. Noted his sensitivity to the amount of information included in the reports presented by staff
and the amount of time it took to review and understand the material;
. Stated that he reads the entire agenda prior to the meeting.
Commissioner Gonzales commented on the following:
. Stated that he enjoyed his first Planning Commission meeting;
. Concurred with Commissioner Larimer regarding larger projects and the possibility of
receiving the larger reports earlier in the week
Gt.)' Attorney Miles commented on the following:
. Thanked everyone for their patience with the time spent on the first project;
. Noted that the MSHa will make some future projects more difficult;
. Welcomed Mr. Gonzales to the Planning Commission and noted that he typically did not
speak much at the meetings.
Chairman LaPere commented on the following:
. Noted that Deputy Gty Attorney Miles spoke when it was important to the subject matter;
. Welcomed Mr. John Gonzales to the Commission;
. Noted that Mr. Gonzales will find that the Commission could not do the job without the
help and the materials prepared by staff, although it could sometimes be overbearing,
thanked staff for their hard work;
. Noted the upcoming Planners Institute Exposition at the Pasadena Convention Center,
Apri113th - 15th, and noted that the information provided at the Institute would benefit
Commissioners interested in attending.
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Vice Chairman O'Neal concurred that the Institute was a positive event to attend.
ADJOURNMENT
THERE BEING NO FURTHER BUSINESS, CHAIRMAN LAPERE ADJOURNED
THE MEETING AT 8:45 PM ON FEBRUARY 1, 2005.
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Ron LaPere, Chairman
Respectfully Submitted,
cj;&f~c. ~/
Lisa C. Alexen
Rental Housing derk
ATTEST:
obert A Brady, Secret
Planning Commission
MINUTES
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
aTY OF LAKE ELSINORE
183 NORTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CA 92530
TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 15, 2005
CALL TO ORDER:
Chainnan LaPere called the Regular Planning Conunission Meeting to order at 6:02 PM
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE:
Conunissioner Uhhy led the Pledge of Allegiance.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: COMMISSIONERS:
LAPERE, GONZALES, LARIMER, UHLRY
O'NEAL
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS:
Chainnan LaPere noted that Vice Chainnan O'Neal was excused from the meeting as a result of an
accident in which he sustained injury.
Also present were: Gty Manager Brady, Planning/ Code Enforcement Manager Villa,
Engineering Manager Seumalo, Associate Planner Miller, Planning Technician Hennings, Rental
Housing derk Alexen, and Deputy Gty Attorney Miles.
PUBLIC COMMENTS
Donna Franson, 7 Villa Valtalena, Lake Elsinore, thanked Chainnan LaPere for attending the
Gtizens Committee Meeting. She noted that the Gty Council members were present as well as
many guests. She further noted the next meeting scheduled for April 21, 2005 and the newsletter to
be released in mid April.
Kim Cousins, President, Lake Elsinore Chamber of Commerce, 132 W. Graham, Lake Elsinore,
noted that Dan Uhhy was named Gtizen of the Year at the Annual Chamber Installation Dinner
and presented him with Certificates of Recognition from Senator Hollingsworth, Assemblyman Ray
Haynes and Assemblyman John Benoit.
Conunissioner Uhhy thanked Mr. Cousins for the recognition.
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Chainnan LaPere noted that the minutes from the previous meeting were not submitted for
approval due to the extended review of the content of said minutes.
CONSENT CALENDAR
1. Minor Design Review of a Single Family Residence located at 1011 Mill Street
MOVED BY UHLRY, SECONDED BY LARIMER AND PASSED BY UNANIMOUS
VOTE TO APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR, WI-IICH INCLUDES
RESOLUTION NO. 2005-15, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION
OF THE aTY OF LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA, APPROVING MINOR DESIGN
REVIEW FOR A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE LOCATED AT 1011 MILL STREET-
APN 373-093-013.
BUSINESS ITEM
2. Design Review of Residential Project No. 2004-19 - Four (4) manufactured homes to
be located at 316 N. Lewis Street. UU W. Pottery Street. U03 and U05 W. Sumner
Avenue.
uty Manager Brady provided a brief overview of the proposed project and requested Planning
Technician Hennings review the project with the Commission.
Planning Technician Hennings provided an overview of the proposed project summarizing the
location and features of the homes. She indicated that the project was located in the Lake Elsinore
Historic Overlay District, which discourages the garage from being the prominent feature of the
home. She indicated that staff recommended that the long driveway in Plan 2 not be allowed due to
the location and aesthetics.
Mike Casmire, 32726 Wesley, Wlldomar, stated that the homes in the proposed project were nice
and affordable, and that the applicant did good work
Commissioner Uhlry noted his concern with the driveway. He clarified the price range of $300,000
and $350,000.
Commissioner Gonzales clarified that the driveway was not recommended by staff and asked if it
would be removed from the plan.
Deleo Hagan, 280 Walnut Hill, San Marcos, stated that issue regarding the driveway was recently
presented to him and moving it would hinder the sale of the property.
Commissioner Gonzales noted that there was concern regarding the driveway as presented in the
plan.
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There was discussion regarding the layout of the property and the driveway condition. There was
further discussion regarding the future impacts the driveway would have on the property and the
future widening of Pottery St.
Conunissioner Larimer had no questions.
Chairman LaPere concurred with Conunissioner Uhlry's comments and staff's recommendation.
He noted the General Plan Update was in process to address future issues regarding street widening,
open spaces, recreation, etc. He further noted that the driveway presented potential safety concerns.
He indicated that the Gty would be asking for trouble if they did not consider the future widening
of Pottery St. and the effects it would have on the driveway and the property owner. He agreed with
staff's recommendation.
Chairman LaPere addressed page 3 of 42, paragraph one, and requested clarification for the term
"... residences generally comply with the Historic Elsinore Design Guidelines." Planning Technician
Hennings provided clarification as it related to the location of the garage.
There was discussion regarding general compliance with the Historic Elsinore Design Guidelines.
Chairman LaPere reiterated his agreement with staff's recommendation as to the modification of the
driveway on Plan 2.
Planning/ Code Enforcement Manager Villa noted that upon review of the Conditions of Approval,
it was determined that a condition requiring the MSHCP fee was absent. He recommended adding
Condition No. 32 to each of the Plans to read" The applicant shall pay the Multi Sp0cU3 Habitat
Consero:ttion Pl4n Fee (MSHCP) L ro:d Deuloprrmt M itigttian Fee if $1,651. 00 (fee for density U3S than 8
du/ ac) for etUh boose prior to dJtainirrg buildirrt,pernits. "
Mr. Hagan agreed to the additional Condition of Approval.
There was brief discussion regarding the fees required from all public agencies with new
construction.
MOVED BY GONZALES, SECONDED BY UHLRY AND PASSED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO ADOPT RESOLUTION NO. 2005-16 AS
AMENDED, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF
THE aTY OF LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA, APPROVING
RESIDENTIAL DESIGN REVIEW NO. 2004-19 FOUR
MANUFACtURED HOMES TO BE LOCATED AT 316 N. LEWIS
STREET, 1212 W. POTTERY STREET, 1203 AND 1205 W. SUMNER
AVENUE. (APN 374-082-003, 374-092-001, 374-092-019, AND 374-092-020).
INFORMATIONAL
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Cty Manager Brady noted the upcoming Planner's Institute and indicated that it would be
worthwhile for new Conunissioner to attend.
STAFF COMMENTS
NONE
PLANNING COMMISSIONER COMMENTS
Conunissioner Uhh:y commented on the following:
. Stated that he appreciated the Ctizen of the Year Award
. Apologized for missing the previous meeting due to illness
Conunissioner Gonzales commented on the following:
. Congratulated Commissioner Uhlry for the award
Chairman LaPere commented on the following:
. Noted the appreciation the Cty, Chamber and the Conunission had for Conunissioner
Uhlry and all he contributed to the community;
. Thanked staff for all of their hard work
. Requested an update as to the larger projects
Cty Manager Brady stated that this was the calm before the storm and many of the proposed
projects were being prepared for Planning Conunission.
Conunissioner Larimer commented on the following:
. Asked Cty Manager Brady if the Conunission could receive the proposed project reports
seven days prior to the Planning Commission Meeting.
Cty Manager Brady indicated that due to work load and staffing levels, it was impossible to have the
reports ready for review any sooner than the five days prior to the Planning CDmmission Meeting.
He explained that postponing the projects for additional review would delay the projects and create
a hardship for the applicants.
There was discussion regarding the time involved with preparation of the projects for Planning
CDmmission meetings.
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Gty Manager Brady noted appreciation to the Planning Q)1Iunission for the time and effort they put
forward for the community in reviewing the projects for the meetings.
Chairman LaPere thanked staff and noted that he was looking forward to reviewing the minutes
from the February 1st Planning O>mmission meeting.
ADJOURNMENT
THERE BEING NO FURTHER BUSINESS, CHAIRMAN LAPERE ADJOURNED
THE MEETING AT 6:35 PM ON FEBRUARY 15, 2005.
~
Ron LaPere, Chairman
Respectfully Submitted,
Yur'C ~/
Lisa C Alexen
Rental Housing derk
ATTEST:
MINUTES
PLANNING COMMISSION MEE TING
aTY OF LAKE ELSINORE
183 NORTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CA 92530
TUESDAY, MARCH 1, 2005
CALL TO ORDER:
Chairman LaPere called the Regular Planning Conunission Meeting to order at 6:07 PM
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE:
Gty Manager Brady led the Pledge of Allegiance.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: COMMISSIONERS:
LAPERE, GONZALES, LARIMER, UHLRY
O'NEAL
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS:
Chairman LaPere noted that Vice Chairman O'Neal was excused from the meeting as a result of
surgery on his leg.
Also present were: Gty Manager Brady, Planning/ Code Enforcement Manager Villa, Deputy
Gty Attorney Miles, Engineering Manager Seumalo, Senior Planner Preisendanz, Planning
Consultant Donahoe, Associate Planner Coury, Assistant Planner Resendiz, and Rental Housing
Oerk Alexen
PUBLIC COMMENTS
NONE
CONSENT CALENDAR
Chairman LaPere pulled items 2 and 3 from the Consent Calendar for discussion.
Conunissioner Larimer noted a correction to the February 15, 2005 minutes, page 1 of 5, to reflect
"Franson."
Agenda Item No.
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MOVED BY UHLRY, SECONDED BY LARIMER AND PASSED BY UNANIMOUS
VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO APPROVE THE BALANCE OF THE CONSENT
CALENDAR AS PRESENTED.
2. Minor Design Review of a Single- Family Residence located at 16899 Wells Avenue -
APN 378-255-009 & 010
3. Minor Design Review of a Single-Family Residence located at 16915 Wells Avenue -
APN 378-255-011 & OU
Gty Manager Brady introduced the item and requested Associate Planner Resendiz to present the
item to the Commission.
Associate Planner Resendiz provided an overview of the projects. He noted the location and square
footage of the units and indicated that the plans were the same; however the architectural features
were different.
Commissioner Uhlry requested clarification as to consideration of Item No.'s 2 and 3 together as
opposed to individually.
Chairman LaPere stated that they would be considered together, but the Resolutions would be voted
on individually.
Arturo Cambron, 13532 Laford St. Whittier; Maria Espinosa and Emesto Robles, 13626 Frazier,
Baldwin Park identified themselves as the applicants and agreed with the staff report and conditions
of approval as presented.
Commissioner Uhlry had no questions.
Commissioner Gonzales clarified the water district for the project as Elsinore Water District (EWD)
and clarified as to whether the septic issues resolved.
The applicant concurred.
Commissioner Larimer addressed item no. 3 regarding the address on the Conditions of Approval to
be changed from 16915 Wells Ave. to 16866 Wells Ave.
Chairman LaPere addressed page 11 of 16, Condition No. 35 on both projects regarding the "will
serve" letter and the water district's ability to service the properties. He requested additional
documentation from the water districts ability to serve the units.
Gty Manager Brady indicated that since the water district is providing the water, they are responsible
for issuing a "will serve" letter to be in compliance with the requirements as set forth by the Gty.
Agenda Item No.
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Deputy Cty Attorney Miles confirmed, and noted that the Cty could request annual water plan data
from the district with respect to net water.
There was further discussion regarding the conditions addressing water capacity and fire hydrants in
the Country dub Heights area.
MOVED BY LARIMER, SECONDED BY GONZALES AND PASSED BY UNANIMOUS
VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO ADOPT RESOLUTION NO. 2005-17, A
RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE OTY OF LAKE
ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA, APPROVING MINOR DESIGN REVIEW FOR A SINGLE
FAMILY RESIDENCE LOCATED AT 16899 WELLS AVENUE - APN 38-255-009 & 010.
MOVED BY LARIMER, SECONDED BY UHLRY AND PASSED BY UNANIMOUS
VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO ADOPT RESOLUTION NO. 2005-18
A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE OTY OF LAKE
ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA, APPROVING MINOR DESIGN REVIE W FOR A SINGLE
FAMILY RESIDENCE LOCATED AT 16915 WELLS AVENUE - APN 38-255-011 & OU.
PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS
4. Draft Environmental Impact Report. State dearinghouse (SCH) No. 2004111053.
General Plan Amendment No. 2004-02: Zone Change No. 2004-02. Tentative Parcel
Map No. 33056: Commercial Design Review No. 2004- U: Conditional Use Permit
No. 2004-38. Variance No. 2004-05 and Uniform Sign Program No. 2004-09 for the
Oak Grove Crossing Shopping Center.
Chairman LaPere opened the Public Hearing at 6:27 pm.
Cty Manager Brady introduced the item and requested Senior Planner Preisendanz review the
project with the Commission.
Senior Planner Preisendanz provided an overview of the project titled Oak Grove Oossing. He
indicated that this type of project required a layer of entitlements. He provided a brief overview of
each entitlement pertaining to the project
He noted that Variance No. 2004-05 addressed the sign program for the freeway sign which would
allow Target to be placed on the Home Depot sign.
He pointed out that pads A and C on the site plan would require additional entitlements and would
return to the Planning Commission for design review consideration in the future.
Agenda Item No.
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He noted an additional finding on page 17 of 76 to read: According to the Multiple Species
Habitat Conservation Plan (MSHCP), "Within identified Narrow Endemic Plant Species survey
areas [NEPSSA], site-specificfocused surveysfor Narrow Endemic Plant Species shall be
required for all public and private projects where appropriate habitat is present". In keeping
with the Biological Survey Report prepared by L & L Environmental Inc. on July 2, 200, since no
appropriate habitat for Narrow Endemic Plant Species is present on site focused surveys are not
required.
He addressed the Draft Environmental Impact Report (EIR) regarding air quality and noted the
need to adopt a statement of overriding consideration.
Glen Daigle, 28991 Front St., Temecula stated that he read and agreed with the Gmditions of
Approval as presented.
Commissioner Uhhyaddressed page 14 of 76; and page 48 of 76 addressing CC&R's as they relate
to the design of future additions to the shopping center.
Mr. Daigle confirmed that Target and Daigle Development are parties to the CC&R's which would
review and approve the designs of future developments in the shopping center.
Commissioner Uhhy addressed item no. 6 on page 48 of 76 as it relates to improvements on Collier
Ave.
Deputy City Attorney Miles noted that the final sentence of that condition referenced a bonding
schedule to ensure final completion of the street improvements.
There was discussion pertaining to the potential of traffic congestion of Collier.
Engineering Manager Seumalo indicated that condition no. 55 on page 53 of 76 could be altered to
read "priOftO occupancy."
Commissioner Uhhyrequested additional verbiage to Condition No. 112 on page 58 of 76, and
Senior Planner Preisendanz revised the Condition to read Subject to the approval of the Home
Depot Sign Progr.lm, Variance No. 2004-05 shall lapse and become void one (1) year following
the date on which the Variance became effective, unless prior to the expiration of one (1) year, a
building permit related to the Variance is issued and construction commenced and diligently pursued
toward completion. The effective date of the Variance is subject to the instaUation of the
most southerly freeway pylon pursuant to Sign Progr.lm No. 2005-01.
Commissioner Larimer asked when Target would open and the applicant noted that it was based on
City Council approval. She further addressed traffic issues. Mr. Daigle provided an explanation as
to the widening of Central and Collier as well as the signal upgrade at the same location. She stated
her support for the design of the project.
Agenda Item No.
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Omunissioner Gonzales stated that the project looked great.
Chairman LaPere noted his support for the design and the potential for enhancement to the area.
He closed the Public Hearing at 6:50 pm
MOVED BY GONZALES, SECONDED BY UHLRY AND PASSED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO ADOPT RESOLUTION
NO. 2005-19, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF
THE OTY OF LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA, RECOMMENDING
TO THE OTY COUNOL ADOPTION OF FINDINGS OF
CONSISTENCY WITH SECTION 6.1.2 OF THE MULTIPLE SPEOES
HABITAT CONSERVATION PLAN (MSHCP) FOR THE PROJECT
KNOWN AS "OAK GROVE CROSSING".
MOVED BY UHLRY, SECONDED BY LARIMER AND PASSED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO ADOPT RESOLUTION
NO. 2005-20, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF
THE OTY OF LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA, RECOMMENDING
OTY COUNOL ADOPTION OF DRAFT ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT
REPORT (SCH NO. 2004111053) FOR THE PROJECT KNOWN AS OAK
GROVE CROSSING LOCATED AT ASSESSOR PARCEL No(s) 377-120-007
& A PORTION OF 008.
MOVED BY LARIMER, SECONDED BY UHLRY AND PASSED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO ADOPT RESOLUTION
NO. 2005-21, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF
THE OTY OF LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA, RECOMMENDING
TO THE OTY COUNOL OF THE OTY OF LAKE ELSINORE FOR
THE SECOND CYCLE OF THE CALENDAR YEAR 2005 APPROVAL OF
GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT NO. 2004-02 AMENDING THE
GENERAL PLAN LAND USE MAP OF THE PROPERTY LOCATED
WITHIN THE BOUNDARIES OF TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP NO.
33056, ASSESSOR PARCEL NO(s) 377-120-007 & A PORTION OF 008
FROM BUSINESS PARK. AND LIMITED INDUSTRIAL TO GENERAL
COMMEROAL.
MOVED BY GONZALES, SECONDED BY LARIMER AND PASSED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO ADOPT RESOLUTION
NO. 2005-22, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF
THE OTY OF LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA, RECOMMENDING
TO THE OTY COUNOL OF THE OTY OF LAKE ELSINORE
APPROVAL OF ZONE CHANGE NO. 2004-02 CHANGING THE
Agenda Item No.
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ZONING DESIGNATION OF THE PROPERTY CONTAINED WITHIN
TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP NO. 33056 ASSESSOR PARCEL NO(s) 377-
UO-007 & A PORTION OF 008 FROM M-1 (LIMITED
MANUFACTURING) TO G2 (GENERAL COMMEROAL) UNDER THE
ZONING ORDINANCE
MOVED BY UHLRY, SECONDED BY GONZALES AND PASSED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO ADOPT RESOLUTION
NO. 2005-23, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF
THE OTY OF LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA, RECOMMENDING
OTY COUNOL APPROVAL OF TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP NO. 33056
FOR THE "OAK GROVE CROSSING' SHOPPING CENTER TO BE
LOCATED ON THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF COLLIER AND
CENTRAL AVENUES, ASSESSOR PARCEL NO(s) 377-UO-007 & A
PORTION OF 008.
MOVED BY GONZALES, SECONDED BY LARIMER AND PASSED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO ADOPT RESOLUTION
NO. 2005-24, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF
THE OTY OF LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA, RECOMMENDING
TO THE OTY COUNOL OF THE OTY OF LAKE ELSINORE
APPROVAL OF COMMEROAL DESIGN REVIEW NO. 2004-U TO
ALLOW FOR THE DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT OF A 160,960
SQUARE FOOT COMMEROAL RETAIL CENTER KNOWN AS OAK
GROVE CROSSING LOCATED ON 14.43 NET ACRES ASSESSOR
PARCEL NO(S) 377-UO-007 & A PORTION OF 008.
MOVED BY GONZALES, SECONDED BY LARIMER AND PASSED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO ADOPT RESOLUTION
NO. 2005-25, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF
THE OTY OF LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA, APPROVING
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 2004-38 FOR THE
ESTABLISHMENT OF A DRIVE THROUGH ESTABLISHMENT
PROPOSED ON PAD "B" OF THE SHOPPING CENTER KNOWN AS
OAK GROVE CROSSING PARCEL 4 OF TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP
NO. 33056 ASSESSOR PARCEL No( s) 377- UO-007 & A PORTION OF 008
MOVED BY UHLRY, SECONDED BY GONZALES LARIMER AND
PASSED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO ADOPT
RESOLUTION NO. 2005-26 AS AMENDED, A RESOLUTION OF THE
PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE OTY OF LAKE ELSINORE,
CALIFORNIA, APPROVING VARIANCE NO. 2004-05 FOR VARIOUS
SIGNAGE PROPOSED WITHIN THE SIGN PROGRAM FOR THE
Agenda Item No.
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PROJECT KNOWN AS THE OAK GROVE CROSSING SHOPPING
CENTER LOCATED ON 14.43 ACRES ASSESSOR PARCEL No(s) 377-UO-
007 & A PORTION OF 008.
MOVED BY GONZALES, SECONDED BY LARIMER AND PASSED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO ADOPT RESOLUTION
NO. 2005-27, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF
THE OTY OF LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA, APPROVING
UNIFORM SIGN PROGRAM NO. 2004-09 FOR THE COMMEROAL
RE TAIL CENTER KNOWN AS OAK GROVE CROSSING LOCATED ON
14.43 ACRES ASSESSOR PARCEL No(s) 377-UO-007 & A PORTION OF
008.
5. Subsequent Environmental Impact Report. SCH# 2004071082 General Plan
Amendment No. 2004-05. Zone Change No. 2004-06. Amendment No.1 to the
Tuscany Hills Specific Plan No. 89-3. Tentative Tract Map No. 31370
Chairman LaPere opened the public hearing at 6:55 pm.
Gty Manager Brady introduced the item and requested Planning Gmsultant Donahoe review the
item with the Commission.
Planning Consultant Donahoe provided an overview of the project and indicated that the location
of the project was in the Tuscany Hills Specific Plan. She highlighted the applicant's goals and
objectives, including additional enhancements to the project.
Planning Consultant Donahoe noted that the Gty Attorney determined that the project was exempt
from MSHCJ> fees and process due to a development agreement executed between the Gty and
Centex Homes on December 2,2003. She noted that the applicant had agreed to provide signage in
the conservation areas for educational purposes to identify the plant and animal species that were in
the conservation area.
She referenced a letter written by the Tuscany Hills HOA Board of Directors stating their concern
about the developer joining their existing HOA
She further referenced the environmental documents, the Findings of Fact, and Statement Of
Overriding Considerations packet which included some social benefits to the project that were not
included in the staff report and asked that these items be included in the Resolution.
She added Condition No. 36d to read, Grremmld A 'W1Ue shall rermin cpen during cunstruction. A Traffic
0Jntrd Plan shall be subrrittaJ far retiewam apprmd by the City E ~ prior to 7mYk being m on Grremmld
Agenda Item No.
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She recommended a correction to the second sentence in Condition No. 85 to read, this raptireJ1Frlt
shall rK1: re a~ uitJ:xX4t the redewam appruud if the Comrrnnity Serria3 Dimtar.
Chris Hohnquist, Centex Homes, 2080 Wardlow 0., Corona, requested clarification to mitigation
measures for 3.13-2 and strike the words "fair share" because those fees were covered in the TIF
and TUMF fee programs.
Engineering Manager Seumalo concurred.
There was discussion regarding the future traffic and roadway improvements. It was determined
that the TIF fee would satisfythe mitigation measure.
Mr. Hohnquist clarified that change is made to the staff report on page 5 of 58 item b-l to read, The
prrjoct Wll rontribute fet5 or in lieu ammities in aa:ordarKE Wth the Derelopmmt Ag;wrm bero.een Cenux am the
city rr:rordtrl De:enb:r 8, 2003, tmmrd sdxxi fad/itie;, park fad/itie;, fire serria3, pdire serria3, Wlter fad/itie;
am seuer fad/itks.
He commended staff for a great job in being firm yet fair in the development plan. He addressed
Condition No. 15 which allows Centex the option of forming a Home Owner's Association or
joining the existing HOA He noted that Centex had met with the Tuscany Hills HOA Board of
Directors and Centex opted to form their own HOA and change the name of the project to
Tuscano Heights. He provided an overview of the recreation facilities and design of the project
which was intended to compliment the Tuscany Hills design, but with different materials and colors
so that the homeowners know which association they belong to. He indicated that Centex chose to
form their own HOA rather than join the Tuscany Hills HOA because Centex wanted to protect
their investment in the project through normal procedures not available in the current HOA, which
include:
. Having developer representatives on the Board of the current HOA
. Having 3 to 1 voting rights
. Running the architectural control committee to be sure that the homeowners are keeping
within the design standards set by Centex;
. Centex had a::J!fc R's that their corporate lawyers had reviewed and improved;
. Selection of their own management company;
. Be assured that the HOA facilities remain in good order throughout the sale program;
. Be sure that the water quality measures are maintained throughout the sale program;
. Be sure that the MSHry area is managed and cared for properly throughout the sale
program.
PUBLIC COMMENTS
Vida and Joe Boice, 17 Ponte Negra, stated their opposition to Centex forming their own HOA
Asked if the project was part of the overlay plan. Noted that other builders in the area joined the
Agenda Item No.
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Tuscany Hills HOA Requested clarification as to the location of the conservation area, density,
added open space and traffic study.
Debbie DeFrates, 14 Ponte Fiera, stated that her backyard would face Toscano Heights. Addressed
traffic issues in the area. Requested clarification as to who keeps the preserved corridor clean.
Donna Franson, 7 Villa Valtelena, asked that the decision on the project be postponed.
Bob Hanson, 18 Del Fiore, indicated that builders had conformed to the Tuscany Hills Specific Plan
in the past.
James Hunt, 1 ante Estraza, President of the Tuscany Hills Board of Directors, provided an
overview of notification they received from the City pertaining to the proposed project. He
referenced the Tuscany Hills Specific Plan.
Dave Lewis, 29 CDrte Madera, stated his support for Centex joining the existing HOA
Phil Mendoza, 4 Ponte Fiera, stated his support for Centex joining the existing HOA and his
concerns for the Summerhill Dr. extension.
Darren Stroud - Centex Homes, 18101 Von Karman Ave. Ste. 1800 Irvine, thanked the community
and City staff for their efforts on the proposed project. He noted that the issue of concern was the
annexation into the Tuscany Hills HOA He suggested that the project was good and should not be
postponed. He noted that Centex was open to continuing negotiations with the Tuscany Hills HOA
and that the City could not legally require Centex to join the HOA He suggested a Joint Use
Agreement to allow residents to use all facilities. He indicated that they all could work together
towards a solution.
Chris Holmquist, Centex Homes, indicated that the proposed project is in the CFD and would
benefit the current residents in the Tuscany Hills area. He stated that the density had been
decreased. He noted that a traffic study had been done and on-site improvements would be made.
He indicated that he wanted to come to an amicable solution with the Tuscany Hills HOA
PLANNING COMMISSIONER COMMENTS
CDmmissioner Uhlry addressed issues pertaining to the Tuscany Hills Specific Plan and the HOA
He noted that Centex should work with the current HOA He noted that he was in favor of the
proposed project, and keeping one HOA in the area.
Chris Holmquist, Centex Homes, stated that Centex would commit to meeting with the Tuscany
Hills Board of Directors prior to the project going to the City CDuncil.
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Commissioner Gonzales stated that he would like to see the HOA work together as one
organization. He indicated that he liked the project and the environmental area and the signs. He
addressed the issue of the holding tanks and requested clarification as to where the water would go.
Chris Holmquist, Centex Homes, explained that the water would go into Canyon Lake with four
detention basins. He further explained that the developer and the HOA monitored the water, and
noted that the park would be a public facility to be accessible by all residents.
Commissioner Larimer requested clarification as to Railroad Cyn. Rd. improvements.
Engineering Manager Seumalo noted that the Gtywas waiting for a response from CalTrans. He
explained the plan check process and the time involved with that process.
Gty Manager Brady provided an overview of the process for the General Plan Update and noted
that the entire Gtywas included in the process. He further noted that there would be no changes to
the Tuscany Hills Specific Plan.
Commissioner Larimer addressed the HOA issue and concurred with the residents. She indicated
that it was a control issue with Centex. She requested clarification as to the reason for the desired
control over the architecture and design of the project.
Chris Holmquist explained that Centex cared about the appearance of the project and it was a
quality control issue.
Commissioner Larimer stated that she was in favor of a single HOA and hoped for a resolution.
Chairman LaPere stated that he was in favor of a single HOA so that people felt at home. He
requested that a Condition of the project was annexation into the existing HOA
There was discussion regarding the Tuscany Hills HOA architectural review committee.
Chris Holmquist, Centex Homes, stated that Centex would join the Tuscany Hills HOA
Commissioner Larimer stated that she lived in Tuscany Hills and was happy about the decision to
annex into the existing HOA
There being no further business, Chairman LaPere closed the Public Hearing at 8:22 pm.
MOVED BY GONZALES, SECONDED BY LARIMER AND PASSED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO ADOPT RESOLUTION
NO. 2005-28, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF
THE OTY OF LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA, RECOMMENDING
TO THE OTY COUNOL OF THE OTY OF LAKE ELSINORE
Agenda Item No.
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APPROVAL OF GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT NO. 2004-05,
AMENDING THE DESIGNATION FROM "LOW MEDIUM DENSITY
RESIDIENTIAL, 6 DWELLING UNITS PER ACRE" TO "TUSCANY
HILLS SPEOFIC PLAN," ON APPROXIMATELY 37.12+ ACRES
LOCATED WEST OF GREENWALD AVENUE, APPROXIMATELY 3.12
MILES SOUTH OF STATE HIGHWAY 74, EAST OF MARELLI ROAD
AND NORTH OF PONTE RUSSO, AND KNOWN AS ASSESSOR'S
PARCEL NOS. 349-390-001 THRU -004, -015 AND -016.
MOVED BY UHLRY, SECONDED BY LARIMER AND PASSED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO ADOPT RESOLUTION
NO. 2005-29, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF
THE OTY OF LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA, RECOMMENDING
TO THE OTY COUNOL OF THE OTY OF LAKE ELSINORE
APPROVAL OF ZONE CHANGE NO. 2004-06, CHANGING THE
ZONING FROM "Rl - SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL" TO
"TUSCANY HILLS SPEOFIC PLAN," ON APPROXIMATELY 37.12+
ACRES LOCATED WEST OF GREENWALD AVENUE,
APPROXIMATELY 3.12 MILES SOUTH OF STATE HIGHWAY 74, EAST
OF MARELLI ROAD AND NORTH OF PONTE RUSSO, AND KNOWN
AS ASSESSOR'S PARCEL NOS. 347-390-001 THRU -004, -015, AND -016.
MOVED BY LARIMER, SECONDED BY GONZALES AND PASSED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO ADOPT RESOLUTION
NO. 2005-30, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF
THE OTY OF LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA, RECOMMENDING
TO THE OTY COUNOL OF THE OTY OF LAKE ELSINORE
APPROVAL OF AMENDMENT NO.1 TO THE TUSCANY HILLS
SPEOFIC PLAN NO. 89-3, LOCATED CONTIGUOUS TO THE
WESTERN BOUNDARY OF THE CANYON LAKE COMMUNITY, THE
NORTHERN BOUNDARY OF THE EXISTING TUSCANY HILLS
COMMUNITY, SOUTH OF GREENWALD AVENUE, AND EAST OF
UNDEVELOPED LAND WITHIN THE RAMSGATE SPEOFIC PLAN
(ASSESSOR'S PARCEL NOS. 349-280-017, -019, -021, -024 THRU -029, -034;
349-290-004, -017 THRU -021; 349-390-001 THRU -004, -015 AND -016).
MOVED BY UHLRY, SECONDED BY LARIMER AND PASSED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO ADOPT RESOLUTION
NO. 2005-31, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF
THE OTY OF LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA, RECOMMENDING
TO THE OTY COUNOL OF THE aTY OF LAKE ELSINORE,
APPROVAL OF TENTATIVE TRACT MAP NO. 31370, A SUBDIVISION
OF 807 SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL LOTS, COMMUNITY AND
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NEIGHBORHOOD PARKS, A RECREATIONAL F AOLITY, AND
APPROXIMATELY 130 ACRES OF OPEN SPACE, ON
APPROXIMATELY 368.4+ ACRES LOCATED WEST OF THE CANYON
LAKE COMMUNITY, NORTH OF THE EXISTING TUSCANY HILLS
COMMUNITY, SOUTH OF GREENWALD AVENUE, AND EAST OF
UNDEVELOPED LAND WITHIN THE RAMSGATE SPEOFIC PLAN,
AND KNOWN AS ASSESSOR'S PARCEL NOS. 349-280-017, -019, -021, -024
THRU -029, -034; 347-290-004, -017 THRU -021; 349-390-001 THRU -004, -015
AND -016
MOVED BY UHLRY, SECONDED BY LARIMER AND PASSED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO ADOPT RESOLUTION
NO. 2005-32 A RESOLUTION OF THE OTY COUNOL OF THE OTY
OF LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA, CERTIFYING THE FINAL
SUBSEQUENT ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT, SCH #
2004071082, ADOPTING THE MITIGATION MONITORING AND
REPORTING PROGRAM THERETO, AND ADOPTING THE
FINDINGS OF FACT AND STATEMENT OF OVERRIDING
CONSIDERATIONS, FOR GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT NO. 2004-
05, ZONE CHANGE NO. 2004-06, AMENDMENT NO. 1 TO THE
TUSCANY HILLS SPEOFIC PLAN NO. 89-3, AND TENTATIVE TRACT
MAP NO. 31370
Deputy Gty Anomey Miles requested clarification as to the amendments made to the conditions
addressing the HOA He addressed Condition No. 15 on page 34 of 58 and indicated that the Gty
could not legally require the applicant to annex into the existing HOA
Chris Holmquist indicated that they would meet with the HOA Board and review their bylaws and
CC&R.'s and that the existing HOA would not have input into the project until the after the
homeowners move in and the area is annexed into the existing HOA
Commissioner Uhlry stated that when the project goes before Council, Mr. Holmquist could clarify
the HOA annexation at that time.
Deputy Gty Anomey Miles concurred and noted that there would be a cooperative effort between
the Tuscany Hills HOA and Centex Homes prior to Gty Council review. He further noted that the
annexation was not mandated by the Gty.
Chairman LaPere recessed the Planning Commission at 8:32 p.m.
The Planning Commission Meeting reconvened at 8:40 p.m.
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6. Proposed Vacation of a Portion of 3m Street.
Chairman LaPere opened the Public Hearing at 8:40 p.rn.
Gty Manager Brady provided a brief overview of the project and requested Engineering Manager
Seumalo review it with the Planning O:munission.
Engineering Manager Seumalo provided an overview of the project.
Chris Holmquist, Centex Homes, 3090 Wardlow a., Corona, noted that there was not enough water
on the east side of the 1-15 Fwy to adequately service the projects underway. He stated that the
proposed vacation would allow for a pump station to accommodate future development.
Commissioner Gonzales clarified the location of the water line under the freeway.
Engineering Manager Seumalo detailed the proposed water line.
Chairman LaPere closed the Public Hearing at 8:47 p.rn.
MOVED BY UHLRY, SECONDED BY GONZALES AND PASSED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO ADOPT RESOLUTION
NO. 2005-33, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF
THE OTYOF LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA RECOMMENDING TO
THE OTY COUNOL OF THE OTY OF LAKE ELSINORE APPROVAL
OF A VACATION OF A PORTION OF 3RD STREET IN FAVOR OF
ELSINORE VALLEY MINIOPAL WATER SIDTRICT TO ALLOW FOR
THE CONSTRUCTION OF A WATER AND SEWER PUMP STATION.
7. Variance No. 2005-01 and Minor Design Review for a new 1.636 square foot Single
Family home located at 1311 Park Way at the located at the northeast comer of Park
Way and Avenue 6. Assessor Parcel Number 373-194-001.
Chairman LaPere opened the Public Hearing at 8:48 p.rn.
Gty Manager Brady provided an overview of the proposed project and requested Associate Planner
Coury review it with the Corrnnission.
Associate Planner Coury provided an overview of the project site location and architecture. He
noted a correction to page 5 of 21, Item No.4 to read, rr... applU:able to the subjea property uith do rKJt
apply fPX!Y'ally to a:her prrperties... " which would also reflect in the Resolution. He stated that the
applicant was not present.
There was brief discussion addressing the wall and fence plans.
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Chairman LaPere noted his support for the project. He closed the Public Hearing at 8:55 p.rn.
MOVED BY UHLRY, SECONDED BY LARIMER AND PASSED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO ADOPT RESOLUTION
NO. 2005-34, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF
THE aTY OF LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA APPROVING
VARIANCE 2005-01 FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1311 PARK WAY,
ASSESSOR PARCEL NUMBER 373-194-001.
MOVED BY UHLRY, SECONDED BY LARIMER AND PASSED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO ADOPT RESOLUTION
NO. 2005-35, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF
THE aTY OF LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA, APPROVING A
MINOR DESIGN REVIEW OF A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE
LOCATED AT 1311 PARK WAY, ASSESSOR PARCEL NUMBER 373-194-
001.
BUSINESS ITEM
8. Industrial Project No. 2004-05 - Faruk Warehouse Building. Assessor Parcel Number
377-151-063.
City Manager Brady provided a brief overview of the project and requested Associate Planner Gmry
review the project with the Corrunission.
Associate Planner Coury reviewed the proposed project with the Planning Corrunission.
Kim Quon, Studio 7, 506 West Graham, represented the applicant and noted his appreciation to
Engineering Manager Seumalo and Associate Planner Coury for the modifications to Condition
No.'s 33 and 49.
Engineering Manager Seumalo noted his concern with modifying or removing Condition No. 49.
He suggested that the condition remain, however cash in lieu be considered a possibility.
Associate Planner Coury addressed several Conditions of Approval and amended them as follovvs:
. Condition No. 33 to read, "Strret irrprmerrmts shalJ b? ronpleur:l or cash in-lieu shalJ b? submitud
prior to certijU:ate if aruparx:y. >>
. Condition No. 38 to read "00. prior to certijU:ate if aruparx:y.>>
. Condition No. 44 to be omitted.
. Condition No. 49 to read, "A rrarwrrnts for rela:ation or pat s0curitU5 if utili1:y rorrpany... >>
. Condition No. 53 to remove the last sentence.
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. Condition No. 67, first sentence to read, "5ubnit H)drrlagy am Hyiraulic Reports for redewam
apprawl by city E rtgjrm- prim to buildingpemit. "
Kim Quon, Studio 7, West Graham Ave. Lake Elsinore, agreed with the staff report and Conditions
of Approval as amended.
Commissioner Larimer noted her support for the Design Review.
Commissioner Gonzales noted his concern with the entrance on Chaney and the potential safety
hazards due to the road design.
Engineering Manager Seumalo indicated that the striping could be modified to allow for a site
distance for exiting vehicles.
Chairman LaPere stated his support for the design.
Commissioner Uhlry stated his support for Mr. Quon and his work
MOVED BY GONZALES, SECONDED BY LARIMER AND PASSED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO ADOPT RESOLUTION
NO. 2005-36 A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF
THE OTY OF LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA, RECOMMENDING
OTY COUNOL APPROVAL OF DESIGN REVIEW FOR INDUSTRIAL
PROJECT NO. 2004-05, TO BE LOCATED ON THE NORTHWEST
CORNER OF COLLIER AVENUE AND rnANEY STREET- APN 377-
151-063
INFORMATIONAL
Gty Manager Brady noted that Planning/ Code Enforcement Manager Villa had taken an
employment position elsewhere. He further noted that the Gtywould miss him and wished him
well.
STAFF COMMENTS
Planning/ Code Enforcement Manager Villa provided a brief summary of his new position in the
pnvate sector.
Engineering Manager Seumalo noted that he and his department would miss Planning/Code
Enforcement Manager Villa.
Agenda Item No.
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PLANNING COMMISSIONER COMMENTS
CDrnmissioner Gonzales commented on the following:
. Stated that he enjoyed working with Planning/ CDde Enforcement Manager Villa.
CDrnmissioner Larimer commented on the following:
. Stated that she would miss Planning/ CDde Enforcement Manager Villa.
. Thanked Rental Housing Oerk Alexen for the minutes.
CDrnmissioner Uhh:y commented on the following:
. Stated that he would miss Planning/ CDde Enforcement Manager Villa.
. Thanked the Tuscany Hills residents for their patience.
. Thanked staff for a wonderful job on two complex projects.
. WIShed CDrnmissioner ONeal the best.
Chairman LaPere commented on the following:
. Noted his working relationship with Planning/ CDde Enforcement Manager Villa and
thanked his for his work.
. Thanked the community for participating in the meeting.
. Thanked staff for their hard work.
. Noted the great example that Gty Manager Brady provided to their staff.
ADJOURNMENT
THERE BEING NO FURTHER BUSINESS, rnAIRMAN LAPERE ADJOURNED
THE MEETING AT 9:25 PM ON MARCH 1,200 .
Agenda Item No.
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Respectfully Submitted,
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Lisa C Alexen
Rental Housing Oerk
ATTEST:
Agenda Item No.
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MINUTES
PLANNING COMMISSION MEE TING
aTY OF LAKE ELSINORE
183 NORTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CA 92530
TUESDAY, MARUI 15,2005
CALL TO ORDER:
Chairman LaPere called the Regular Planning Conunission Meeting to order at 6:03 PM
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE:
Conunissioner Gonzales led the Pledge of Allegiance.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: COMMISSIONERS:
LAPERE, GONZALES, LARIMER
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS:
O'NEAL, UHLRY
Chairman LaPere noted that Vice Chairman O'Neal was excused from the meeting as a result of his
injured leg.
Also present were: City Manager Brady, Planning Manager Preisendanz, Deputy City Attorney
Miles, Engineering Manager Seumalo, Associate Planner Miller, and Rental Housing derk Alexen
PUBLIC COMMENTS
NONE
CONSENT CALENDAR
NONE
PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS
1. Conditional Use Permit No. 2004-40 and Design Review for Industrial Project No. I 2004-06 - APN
377-140-019
Chairman LaPere opened the Public Hearing at 6:05 pm.
Agenda Item No.
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Gty Manager Brady introduced the item and requested Associate Planner Miller review the project
with the Commission.
Associate Planner Miller noted the following corrections to the Conditions of Approval., which were
provided to the Commission as an attachment to the agenda:
. 36. Pay all Capital Improvement and Plan Check fees (LEMC 16.34, Resolution 85-26),
mitigation fees, area drainage fee, traffic impact fee (TIF), encroachment permit fees and
inspection fees associated with the project and its development as applicable.
. 58. The existing catch basin at the end of the Central Avenue cul-de-sac drains directly to
Elsinore Channel Oeek the adjlawdxt:l1J'l:?i and appears to have a questionable hydraulic grade
line. Due to the standing water elevation in Elsinore Char.nel the adjlaw dJaruxl, the catch
basin outlet pipe was approximately 80% submerged
. 66. Applicant shall obtain approval from Santa Ana Regional Water Quality Control Board for
their storm water pollution prevention plan including approval of erosion control for the
grading plan prior to issuance of grading permits. The applicant shall provide a S'X'PPP
WQ\1P for post construction which describes BMP's that will be implemented for the
development and including maintenance responsibilities.
She provided an overview of the proposed project, the design and location.
Harold Johnson, 30743 Joy St., Menifee, Treasurer of Triple J Development confirmed agreement
with the staff report and Conditions of Approval.
Commissioner Gonzales clarified the location of the project on Pasadena St. He questioned the
purpose of seven handicapped parking spaces.
Mr. Johnson stated that he automatically includes seven handicapped spaces in all of his projects.
Conrad Reiger, Architect, 40440 Carlita d. Tern. Noted that in the past, he had been requested to
add handicapped spaces even though they are not required.
Commissioner Larimer noted her approval of the project.
Chairman LaPere noted his approval of the project.
There being no further business, Chairman LaPere closed the Public Hearing at 6:12 p.rn.
MOVED BY GONZALES SECONDED BY LARIMER AND
PASSED BY A UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT
TO ADOPT RESOLUTION NO. 2005-37, A RESOLUTION
Agenda Item No.
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OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE OTY OF
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA, RECOMMENDING
OTY COUNOL ADOPTION OF FINDINGS OF
CONSISTENCY WITH SECfION 6.1.2 OF THE
MULTIPLE SPEOES HABITAT CONSERVATION PLAN
(MSHCP) FOR THE PROjCf KNOWN AS INDUSTRIAL
PROjECf NO. I 2004-06 TO BE LOCATED ON PASADENA
STREET AND CENTRAL AVENUE - APN 377-140-019
MOVED BY GONZALES SECONDED BY LARIMER AND
PASSED BY A UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT
TO ADOPT RESOLUTION NO. 2005-38, A RESOLUTION
OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE OTY OF
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA, APPROVING
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 2004-40 FOR
OUTDOOR STORAGE FOR INDUSTRIAL PROjECf NO. I
2004-06, TO BE LOCATED ON PASADENA STREET AND
CENTRAL AVENUE - APN 377-140-019.
MOVED BY GONZALES SECONDED BY LARIMER AND
PASSED BY A UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT
TO ADOPT RESOLUTION NO. 2005-39, A RESOLUTION
OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE OTY OF
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA, RECOMMENDING
OTY COUNOL APPROVAL OF DESIGN REVIEW FOR
INDUSTRIAL PROjECf NO. I 2004-06, TO BE LOCATED
ON PASADENA STREET AND CENTRAL AVENUE -APN
377-140-019
2. Commercial Design Review No. 2004-13 for Abbacy Holding Parcel No.4
Retail/ Office Building.
Chainnan LaPere opened the public hearing at 6:15 pm.
Gty Manager Brady introduced the item and requested Planning Manager Preisendanz review the
item with the Commission.
Planning Manager Preisendanz provided an overview of the project location and design. He noted
that the project was located in an MSHQ> cell; however it was exempt from the LEAP and Joint
Project Review because of common law vesting rights. He noted that the parking lot was lacking
two parking spaces and indicated that the lot would include compact parking spaces.
Agenda Item No.
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He noted a correction to Condition No. 27 on page of 13 of 24, to read"... unless otherwise
approved by Gty Engineer."
He indicated that residents on the east side of Canyon Estates Dr., outside of the required 300 foot
radius were given notification of the proposed project as a courtesy.
Lon Bike, 23905 Clinton Keith Rd., Architect agreed with the staff report and conditions of
approval.
Commissioner Larimer requested clarification as the type of business would use the building and the
reason the applicant was using compact parking spaces.
Mr. Bike indicated that he was not aware of the type of business would use the building, but the
retail would be on the ground floor. He indicated that compact parking would be appropriate for
this type of project. He indicated that he would look into the parking lot options as it related to
parking spaces.
Commissioner Gonzales noted his approval of the project.
Chairman LaPere addressed the parking lot issues related to spacing. He noted his approval of the
project.
There being no further business, Chairman LaPere closed the Public Hearing at 6:27 p.rn.
MOVED BY GONZALES SECONDED BY LARIMER AND
PASSED BY A UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT
TO ADOPT RESOLUTION NO. 2005-40, A RESOLUTION
OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE OTY OF
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA, RECOMMENDING
OTY COUNOL APPROVAL OF COMMEROAL DESIGN
REVIEW NO. 2004-13 FOR THE DESIGN,
CONSTRUCTION AND ESTABLISHMENT OF A
RETAIL/OFFICE BUILDING LOCATED ON PARCEL 4
OF PARCEL MAP 30832, CANYON CREEK
"SUMMERHILL" SPEOFIC PLAN, ASSESSOR PARCEL
NUMBER 363-670-004.
INFORMATIONAL
NONE
Agenda Item No.
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STAFF COMMENTS
Gt)'" Manager Brady commented on the following:
. Congratulated Rolfe Preisendanz on his position of Planning Manager;
. Noted that the EDC Luncheon was on Thursday, March 1?
Planning Manager Preisendanz commented on the following:
. Thanked Chairman LaPere for the letter of commendation to staff.
PLANNING COMMISSIONER COMMENTS
Commissioner Larimer commented on the following:
. Requested clarification as to the status of the lighting storage area;
. Congratulated Planning Manager Preisendanz on his new position.
Commissioner Gonzales commented on the following:
. Congratulated Planning Manager Preisendanz on his new position.
Chairman LaPere commented on the following:
. Thanked staff for their hard work
ADJOURNMENT
THERE BEING NO FURTHER BUSINESS, CHAIRMAN LAPERE ADJOURNED
THE MEETING AT 6:30 PM ON MARCH 15,2005.
Agenda Item No.
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Respectfully Submitted,
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Lisa C Alexen
Rental Housing derk
ATTEST:
Agenda Item No.
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MINUTES
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
aTY OF LAKE ELSINORE
183 NORTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CA 92530
TUESDAY, APRIL 5, 2005
CALL TO ORDER:
Chairman LaPere called the Regular Planning Commission Meeting to order at 6:01 PM
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE:
Commissioner Larimer led the Pledge of Allegiance.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: COMMISSIONERS:
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS:
LAPERE, GONZALES, LARIMER
O'NEAL, UHLRY
Chairman LaPere noted that Vice Chairman O'Neal was excused from the meeting as a result of his
injured leg.
Also present were: City Manager Brady, Planning Manager Preisendanz, Deputy City Attorney
Miles, Engineering Manager Seumalo, Associate Planner Coury, Assistant Planner Hennings and
Administrative Assistant Alexen
PUBLIC COMMENTS
Donna Franson, 7 Villa Valtelena, informed the Commission of a Transportation Committee
Meeting scheduled for April 14th, from 6:00 pm to 10:00 pm to address transportation problems; and
a Lake Elsinore Citizens Committee Meeting on April 21 st at 7:00 pm with the GP AC Consultant,
(Mooney, Jones & Stokes) hired by the City to do the General Plan Update, and invited the
Omunissioners to attend.
Agenda Item No.
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CONSENT CALENDAR
1. Minutes
a. Regular Planning Commission Minutes of March 1,2005;
b. Regular Planning Commission Minutes of March 15,2005.
2. Minor Desie:n Review of a Sine:le Familv Residence located at 29520 La Shell
Street (APN 378-162-033)
3. Minor Desie:n Review for a Sine:le-Familv Residence located at 505 Adobe Avenue.
Assessor Parcel Number 377-274-026.
MOVED BY GONZALES, SECONDED BY LARIMER AND
PASSED BY A VOTE OF 3-0 TO APPROVE THE
CONSENT CALENDAR, AMENDED TO RECOMMEND
CONTINUANCE OF ITEM NO.3, MINOR DESIGN
REVIEW FOR A SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENCE
LOCATED AT 505 ADOBE AVENUE, ASSESSOR
PARCEL NUMBER 377-274-026.
PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS
4. Desie:n Review for Residential Proiect No. 2004-20. located between Baum Avenue
and Gutkaes Avenue and adiacent to Chaney Street - APN 375-322-008 throue:h
019.
Chairman LaPere opened the Public Hearing at 6:05 pm.
Gty Manager Brady introduced the item and requested Planning Manager Preisendanz review it with
the G)lnmission and answer any questions.
Planning Manager Preisendanz provided an overview of the proposed project in place of Assistant
Planner Resendiz who was not present. He noted that the design review was exempt from CEQA
because of the infill status of the project. He further noted that utilites were available, as indiciated
by the Will-Serve letters in the project file. He noted that the applicant was available to answer
questiOns.
Michael Kazmier, 37726 Wesley St. Wlldomar, expressed his support the project which will spur
growth for the area.
Commissioner Gonzales requested clarification as to the water district which will service the project.
Agenda Item No.
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Deleo Hagan, Hagan Investments 280 Walnut Hills Dr. San Marcos, noted that Elsinore Water
District services the project. He further noted that he had spent extensive time with the
representative s of Elsinore Water District to address water pressure, availability, and sewer.
Qmunissioner Gonzales addressed the paving of the street and confirmed the areas which will be
paved.
Conunissioner Larimer noted her support for the project.
Chairman LaPere noted his concern with Elsinore Water District's ability to provide service to the
proposed project. He noted his support for the proposed project.
There being no further business, Chairman LaPere closed the Public Hearing at 6:12 p.m.
MOVED BY GONZALES SECONDED BY LARIMER AND
PASSED BY A UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT
TO ADOPT RESOLUTION NO. 2005-41, A RESOLUTION
OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE aTY OF
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA, APPROVING DESIGN
REVIEW OF RESIDENTIAL PROJECT NO. R2004-20, FOR
THE CONSTRUCTION OF SIX (6) SINGLE-FAMILY
RESIDENCES, TO BE LOCATED BETWEEN BAUM
AVENUE AND GUTKAES AVENUE AND ADJACENT TO
CHANEY STREET. APN: 375-322-008 THROUGH 019.
5. Tentative Parcel Map No. 32911 "For Condominium PUq1oses". and Industrial
Design Review No. I 2004-07 for "Collier Avenue Business Park"
Chairman LaPere opened the Public Hearing at 6:13 pm.
City Manager Brady provided a brief overview of the proposed project and requested Assistant
Planner Coury review the project with the Conunission and answer questions.
Assistant Planner Coury provided an overview of the proposed project. He noted that there were
two parcels included in this project and that the applicant would donate parcel no. 1 to the Riverside
Conservation Authority for conservation efforts. He described the development that would take
place on parcel no. 2. He noted that parking for the site would include 166 spaces although 165
spaces were required. He detailed the landscaping and architecture of the project.
Jeff Johnston, Collier Development, 12040 E. Florence Ave. Santa Fe Springs, stated that he had
read and agreed with the staff report and conditions of approval as presented to the Conunission. He indicated that he appreciated the help staff provided and he was looking forward to developing
in the City.
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Q)rrunissioner Larimer stated her support for the project. She asked if local residents would be
employed by the applicant.
Mr. Johnston confirmed that some employees would be local residents.
Q)rrunissioner Gonzales addressed the potential for flooding in the future.
Mr. Johnston explained their methods of grading and raised elevation, and stated that flooding issues
had been discussed with the Anny Q)rp. of Engineering.
Q)rrunissioner Gonzales stated his support for the project.
Chairman LaPere requested clarification as to the future plan of parcel no. 1.
Mr. Johnston noted that he was in process of locating a conservation agency to dedicate the land to.
Chairman LaPere stated his support for the project and noted his desire for the applicant to employ
local residents.
MOVED BY GONZALES, SECONDED BY LARIMER
AND PASSED BY A VOTE OF 3-0 TO APPROVE
RESOLUTION NO. 2005-42, A RESOLUTION OF THE
PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE OTY OF LAKE
ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA, RECOMMENDING TO
THE OTY COUNOL ADOPTION OF FINDINGS OF
CONSISTENCY WITH SECtION 6.1.2 OF THE
MULTIPLE SPEOES HABITAT CONSERVATION
PLAN (MSHCP) FOR THE PROJECt KNOWN AS
"COLLIER AVENUE BUSINESS PARK".
MOVED BY LARIMER, SECONDED BY GONZALES AND
PASSED BY A VOTE OF 3-0 TO APPROVE RESOLUTION
NO. 2005-43, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING
COMMISSION OF THE OTY OF LAKE ELSINORE,
CALIFORNIA, RECOMMENDING TO THE OTY
COUNOL OF THE OTY OF LAKE ELSINORE
APPROVAL OF TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP NO. 32911
"FOR CONDOMINIUM PURPOSES"
MOVED BY LARIMER, SECONDED BY GONZALES AND
PASSED BY A VOTE OF 3-0 TO APPROVE RESOLUTION
NO. 2005-44, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING
COMMISSION OF THE OTY OF LAKE ELSINORE,
Agenda Item No.
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CALIFORNIA, RECOMMENDING OTY COUNOL
APPROVAL OF DESIGN REVIEW FOR INDUSTRIAL
PROJECT NO. 2004-07, TO BE LOCATED ON COLLIER
AVENUE, NORTH OF RIVERSIDE DRIVE FOR A
PROJECT KNOWN AS COLLIER AVENUE BUSINESS
P ARK- APN 378-030-014
6. Sign Program No. 2005-01 and Variance No. 2005-02
MOVED BY GONZALES, SECONDED BY LARIMER AND
PASSED BY A VOTE OF 3-0 TO CONTINUE ITEM NO.6,
SIGN PROGRAM NO. 2005-01 AND VARIANCE NO. 2005-02
TO PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING ON APRIL 19,
2005.
INFORMATIONAL
Gty Manager Brady stated that Planning Commissioner Uhhy resigned from the Planning
Commission and the GtyCouncil would consider it at their next meeting on April 12, 2005.
STAFF COMMENTS
Planning Manager Preisendanz commented on the following:
. Stated that Assistant Planner Monika Hennings had resigned to relocate to Washington State
and noted that the Gty would miss her.
Gty Manager Brady commented on the following:
. Congratulated Assistant Planner Hennings on her new job and stated that she was the first
of many good people he had hired in the department and that she would be missed.
Assistant Planner Hennings commented on the following:
. Thanked Gty Manager Brady and Planning Manager Preisendanz for the opportunities they
had given her, but the pull of family was strong.
PLANNING COMMISSIONER COMMENTS
Commissioner Larimer commented on the following:
. WIShed Assistant Planner Hennings well;
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· Stated that she wants the minutes to reflect exactly what is said at the Planning Conunission
meetings, except for her jokes;
. Stated that she would miss Conunissioner Uhlry.
Conunissioner Gonzales commented on the following:
. Stated that he would miss Commissioner Uhlry;
· Stated that he was sorry to see Monika leave and that she did an outstanding job at the front
counter;
. Stated that he was looking forward to the upcoming Planner's Institute Conference in the
next week
Chainnan LaPere commented on the following:
. Noted that he would like a verbal report of the Conunissioner's experiences at the upcoming
Planner's Institute Conference;
. Stated that he wished Assistant Planner Hennings well and noted that she had been as asset
to the Gty of Lake Elsinore;
. Thanked staff for their efforts and clarified that the continued items would be presented at
the Planning Conunission meeting on April 19th.
. Oarified that three employees needed to be replaced in the Planning Department.
THERE BEING NO FURTHER BUSINESS, CHAIRMAN LAPERE ADJOURNED
THE MEETING AT 6:31 PM ON APRIL 5, 2005.
Chainnan LaPere re-opened the Planning Commission Meeting at 6:31 pm to answer questions
from Corona resident John Oswald.
Mr. Oswald requested explanation of the procedure for project approval on the Consent
Calendar.
There was discussion addressing the method of approval for projects placed on the Consent
Calendar.
City Manager Brady stated that the approval process for Minor Design Review projects had been
changed within the last 6 or more months to include them on the Consent Calendar for the
Planning Commission Agenda.
There was discussion as to the procedure for addressing items on the Consent Calendar.
Donna Bowen, 29523 LaShell St, Lake Elsinore requested infonnation on Item No.2 on the
Consent Calendar.
Agenda Item No.
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Assistant Planner Hennings and Deputy Gty Attorney Miles provided Ms. Bowen and Mr.
Oswald with additional information related to Item No.2.
ADJOURNMENT
THERE BEING NO FURTHER BUSINESS, CHAIRMAN LAPERE ADJOURNED
THE MEETING AT 6:41 PM ON APRIL 5, 2005.
Respectfully Submitted,
~.J~~, ~
Lisa C Alexen
Office Specialist III
ATTEST:
Agenda Item No.
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MINUTES
PLANNING COMMISSION MEE TING
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
183 NORTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CA 92530
TUESDAY, APRIL 19, 2005
CALL TO ORDER:
Chairman LaPere called the Regular Planning Commission Meeting to order at 6:02 PM
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE:
Donna Franson led the Pledge of Allegiance.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: COMMISSIONERS:
LAPERE, GONZALES, LARIMER
O'NEAL
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS:
Chairman LaPere noted that Vice Chairman O'Neal was excused from the meeting as a result of his
injured leg.
Also present were: Gty Manager Brady, Planning Manager Preisendanz, Deputy Gty Attorney
Miles, Engineering Manager Seumalo, Associate Planner Coury, Associate Planner Miller and Office
Specialist Alexen.
PUBLIC COMMENTS (Non-agendized items)
Donna Franson, 7 Villa Valtelena, informed the Commission that there was a Transportation
Committee Meeting on April 14th, from 6:00 pm to 10:00 pm which addressed transportation
problems; and invited the Commissioners to attend a Lake Elsinore Gtizens Committee Meeting on
April21't at 7:00 pm with the GP AC Consultant, (Mooney, Jones & Stokes) hired by the Gty to do
the General Plan Update.
CONSENT CALENDAR
1. Minutes
a. Regular Planning Commission Minutes of AprilS, 200S;
Agenda Item No.
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CONSENT CALENDAR CONTINUED
2. Minor Design Review of a Single Family Residence located at 408 Franklin Street
MOVED BY GONZALES, SECONDED BY LARIMER AND
PASSED BY A VOTE OF 3-0 TO APPROVE THE
CONSENT CALENDAR AS PRESENTED.
PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS
3. Sign Program No. 2005-01 and Variance No. 2005-02
Chairman LaPere opened the Public Hearing at 6:05 p.m.
Gty Manager Brady provided a brief overview of the proposed project and requested Associate
Planner Coury review the proposed project with the Planning Commission and answer questions.
Associate Planner Coury indicated that due to unforeseen circumstances, the applicant and staff
requested to continue the item to the May yu Planning Commission meeting.
MOVED BY LARIMER, SECONDED BY GONBZALES AND
PASSED BY A VOTE OF 3-0 TO CONTINUE ITEM NO.3, SIGN
PROGRAM NO. 2005-01 AND VARIANCE NO. 2005-02 TO THE
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING ON MAY 3,2005.
There being no further business, Chairman LaPere closed the Public Hearing at 6:06 p.m.
4. Creation of a New M-3 Zoning District
Chairman LaPere opened the Public Hearing at 6:06 pm.
Gty Manager Brady provided a brief overview of the proposed project and requested Planning
Manager Preisendanz review the project with the Planning Commission and answer questions.
Planning Manager Preisendanz indicated that the Gty was initiating a new chapter in the Municipal
Code tided M- 3 Mineral Resources and Related Manufacturing District. He noted that the new
zoning would regulate large scale mining operations. He noted that the proposed code was
emulated after the County of Riverside's Mining Ordinance. He further noted that the intent was to
establish a new section of the Municipal and not to change the zoning of any property. He noted
Deputy Gty Attorney Miles' involvement in the project.
Chairman LaPere clarified the owner of the property to be affected by the change in designation.
Agenda Item No.
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Ken Benson, Castle & Cooke, 17600 Collier Ave. noted that the project was consistent with the
annexation intention of Pacific day.
Conunissioner Gonzales clarified the intent of the zone change and the location of the affected area.
He further clarified as to the distance between the affected area and any homes.
Deputy Gty Attorney Miles indicated that the reason the item was brought before the Planning
Conunission, is the requirement of a legislative action by the Conunission to enact a new zone. He
noted that the property within the new zone did not have any applications pending. He further
noted the potential for parcels to be annexed into the city in the future.
Conunissioner Larimer stated that she had no questions.
Chairman LaPere noted his support for the zone change. He further noted Conunissioner O'Neal's
support for the zone change.
There being no further business, Chairman LaPere closed the Public Hearing at 6:12 pm.
MOVED BY GONZALES, SECONDED BY LARIMER AND
PASSED BY A VOTE OF 3-0 TO APPROVE RESOLUTION
NO. 2005-46, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING
COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE,
CALIFORNIA RECOMMENDING TO THE CITY
COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE THE
COMMENCEMENT OF PROCEDINGS TO AMEND THE
CITY'S ZONING CODE TO INCLUDE "M-3" ZONING
DISTRICT.
BUSINESS ITEMS
5. Residential Design Review No. 2005-03 located within Vesting Tract Map No. 28214-
2 (Alberhill Ranch)
Gty Manager Brady provided a brief overview of the proposed project and requested that Associate
Planner Coury review the item with the Commission and answer questions.
Associate Planner Coury provided an overview of the project location, lot sizes, the model home
complex and landscaping.
Agenda Item No.
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Ken Benson, Castle & Cooke, 17600 Collier Ave., Ste. e120, Lake Elsinore, noted the additional
enhancements and architectural features. He stated that he read and understood the staff report and
conditions of approval.
Commissioner Larimer noted her approval of the details and enhanced architecture of the project.
Commissioner Gonzales clarified the nearest school site and parks in the project.
Ken Benson indicated that there was an elementary school and a sports park in the Master Plan. He
further noted that there would be additional parks and recreation facilities with the Home Owners
Association.
There was brief discussion regarding the Nichols Road street improvements.
Chairman LaPere noted that he was pleased to see the added architectural enhancements to the
homes. He noted his appreciation of the developer's efforts to continuing with the phases in the
development.
Ken Benson invited Commissioner Gonzales to his office to view the Alberhill Ranch Specific Plan.
Evelyn Tomlin, 3628 Ash St., addressed erosion and clarified as to who was responsible any future
erosion in the proposed development.
Engineering Manager Seumalo stated that the Gty had worked with the applicant to provide erosion
controL He referenced slopes adjacent to Lake St. and noted the materials used to stabilize the
slopes.
Deputy Gty Attorney Miles indicated that construction liabilities were between the home owner and
developer. He noted that there were Federal programs available in the event of a natural disaster,
however homeowners insurance or litigation would be the alternative.
MOVED BY GONZALES, SECONDED BY LARIMER AND
PASSED BY A VOTE OF 3-0 TO ADOPT RESOLUTION
NO. 2005-47, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING
COMMISSION OF THE aTY OF LAKE ELSINORE,
CALIFORNIA, APPROVING RESIDENTIAL PROJECT
NO. 2005-03 WHICH ENTAILS DESIGN REVIEW OF A
FOUR-PLAN MODEL HOME COMPLEX AND
PRODUCTION UNITS WHICH WILL BE CONSTRUCTED
THROUGHOUT 104 SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL
LOTS WITHIN TRACT MAP NO. 28214-2
Chairman LaPere thanked the developer for installing signs at the project location which provided a
contact number for residents who are negatively affected by dust resulting from construction.
Agenda Item No.
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6. Residential Design Review No. 2004-25. Design Review for "Bridgegate" located
within the Canyon Hills Specific Plan
Gty Manager Brady provided a brief overview of the proposed project and requested Associate
Planner Coury review the item with the Commission and answer questions.
Associate Planner Coury provided an overview of the project location, lot sizes and building designs.
He noted that Bridgegate was located in the Canyon Hills vicinity and was a gated community. He
further noted that, as an additional enhancement, the developer agreed to provide scored driveways
as a standard feature.
Ron Nugroho, Pardee Homes, 6335 Capricorn Ave. Agoura Hills, stated that he was pleased to
work with Kirt Coury. He agreed with the staff report and Conditions of Approval as presented.
He noted the additional enhancements and the location of the lots which would be affected.
Commissioner Gonzales clarified whether the entire development would be completely fenced; a
separate Home Owners Association; and the selling prices.
Ron Nugroho confirmed that the community would be completely gated, have it's own HOA and
the selling price would be in the mid $500,000's.
Commissioner Larimer requested clarification as to the meaning of scored driveways.
Associate Planner Coury clarified that scoring the driveway referred to the pattern cut into the
concrete to make different geometric designs.
Commissioner Larimer stated that the Master Plan for Pardee homes was beautiful, however the
previous projects for Pardee had more enhancements than this project.
Chairman LaPere stated his support for the project, and noted that additional enhancements were
always encouraged and welcomed.
Ron Nugroho concurred and further noted additional enhancements to the project were now
standard features.
MOVED BY GONZALES, SECONDED BY LARIMER AND
PASSED BY A VOTE OF 3-0 TO ADOPT RESOLUTION
NO. 2005-48, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING
COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE,
CALIFORNIA, APPROVING RESIDENTIAL DESIGN
REVIEW NO. 2004-25 WHICH ENTAILS DESIGN REVIEW
OF A FOUR-PLAN MODEL HOME COMPLEX AND
PRODUCTION UNITS WHICH WILL BE CONSTRUCTED
THROUGHOUT 147 SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL
Agenda Item No.
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LOTS WITHIN TRACT MAP NO. 31706
INFORMATIONAL / PLANNING COMMISSIONER COMMENTS
1. Summary of League of California Cities Planners Institute Conference in Pasadena.
April 13th - 1Stli attended by Commissioner's Gonzales and Larimer.
Commissioner Larimer provided an overview of the Conference she attended with Commissioner
Gonzales. She noted that she learned a lot about the roles and responsibilities of a Planning
Commissioner. She described the sessions she attended and stated that she had a better
understanding and sensitivity for what the developers go through to bring forward a project. She
further emphasized the lack of understanding between staff, the public and the Commission. She
noted that she would try to be clear about what she wants, in order to help ensure better
understanding. She further encouraged audience participation and communication at the Planning
Commission Meeting.
Commissioner Gonzales thanked Office Specialist Alexen for her efforts in scheduling and
arranging for his attendance at the Conference. He provided an overview of the role of a Planning
Commissioner in a community and how to determine what is best for the Gty. He noted a
Resolution from the Gty of Santa Rosa which arranged for an annual meeting between Gty
Commissions, Committees and Councils in order to address goals for the Gty. He further noted the
changes that take place in a rapidly growing Gty and the need to determine the direction the Gty is
gomg.
Chainnan LaPere noted that Commissioners were charged with a great responsibility for the growth
and development in the Gty, in which they rely on staff to do the research necessary to ensure that
the Commissioners can make an educated decision on the projects presented for approval. He
further noted that the changes in a community in the course of 15 years are enormous, and that the
General Plan Update in process would address those growth and development issues. He noted the
importance of education in the development process and stressed the importance of taking the time
to attend conferences to learn the various processes involved in Gty development.
STAFF COMMENTS
Gty Manager Brady commented on the following:
. Noted that the Budget Study Session was scheduled for Thursday, April 21 st.
. Noted that the EDC Luncheon was scheduled for Thursday, April2rt at 11:30.
Deputy Gty Attorney Miles commented on the following:
Noted that he would be absent on the next Planning Commission Meeting on May yu.
Agenda Item No.
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Chainnan LaPere commented on the following:
. Thanked the residents for attending the meeting.
ADJOURNMENT
THERE BEING NO FURTHER BUSINESS, CHAIRMAN LAPERE ADJOURNED
THE MEETING AT 6:52 PM ON APRIL 19,2005.
Respectfully Submitted,
7f(J~ C !2h~UL
Lisa C Alexen
Office Specialist III
ATTEST:
Agenda Item No.
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MINUTES
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
aTY OF LAKE ELSINORE
183 NORTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CA 92530
TUESDAY, MAY 3,2005
CALL TO ORDER:
Chainnan LaPere called the Regular Planning Commission Meeting to order at 6:02 PM
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE:
Gty Manager Brady led the Pledge of Allegiance.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: COMMISSIONERS:
LAPERE, GONZALES, LARIMER
O'NEAL
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS:
Chainnan LaPere noted that Vice Chainnan O'Neal was excused from the meeting as a
result of knee surgery.
.Also present were: Gty Manager Brady, Planning Manager Preisendanz, Deputy Gty
Attorney Mann, Engineering Manager Seumalo, Associate Planner Coury, Associate Planner
Miller, Associate Planner Resendiz, Associate Planner Reiner and Office Specialist .Alexen.
PUBLIC COMMENTS (Non-agendized items)
Tim Fleming, 17970 Lakeshore Dr., noted his concern for manufactured homes placed on
small lots within the Gty. He requested clarification as to the Code allowing this type of
housing.
CONSENT CALENDAR
Chainnan LaPere pulled Item No.2, Minor Design Review of a two-story, Single-Family
manufactured home for a property located at 16852 Ulmer Street from the Consent
Calendar for further discussion.
Commissioner Gonzales pulled Item No.3, Minor Design Review of a Single Family
Residence located at 214 Davis Street from the Consent Calendar for further discussion.
Agenda Item No.
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1. Minutes
a. Regular Planning Commission Minutes of April 19 , 2005
MOVED BY LARIMER, SECONDED BY
GONZALES AND PASSED BY A VOTE OF 3-0 TO
APPROVE THE BALANCE OF CONSENT
CALENDAR.
2. Minor Design Review of a two-story_ Single-Family manufactured home for a
property located at 16852 Ulmer Street
City Manager Brady provided a brief overview of the proposed project and requested
Associate Planner Resendiz review it with the Commission and answer questions.
Associate Planner Resendiz provided an overview of the project.
Marc Aursterlitz, 10046 Corte Dr. La Mesa, stated that he read and understood the staff
report and conditions of approval.
Commissioner Gonzales requested clarification as to the type of foundation used for the
house.
Daniel Lopez, 136 San Marcos Place, Chula Vista, indicated that the foundation was a stem-
wall perimeter with a steel frame base.
Commissioner Gonzales requested clarification as to park-in-lieu fees.
City Manager Brady noted that a park- in-lieu fee was a fee for parks assessed to single family
homes.
Commissioner Gonzales noted that Condition No. 33 referenced the incorrect water district
and corrected it to reflect Elsinore Water District. He further clarified Condition No. 50
addressing the frontage fee for off-site improvement and asked where the fee went after it
was collected.
City Manager Brady indicated that the fee went into a fund for future street improvements,
and the City determined where the street would be installed.
Engineering Manager Seumalo noted that density level was a factor in the determination of
where the street improvements would be. He further noted that the Country dub Heights
area had a challenging terrain which required the City to develop an alternate guideline for
that area.
Agenda Item No.
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Commissioner Larimer noted her support for the elevations.
Chairman LaPere noted the General Plan Update currendy in process and the direction it
gave the Planning Commissioners when projects were being considered. He addressed the
law allowing manufactured homes in the area, and stated that the Commission was in favor
of manufactured homes which were built to the same standard as stick-built homes. He
encouraged enhancements to the structures as staff recommended. He requested supporting
documentation from Elsinore Water District indicating that they could serve the area in the
event of a fire.
MOVED BY GONZALES, SECONDED BY
LARIMER AND PASSED BY A VOTE OF 3-0 TO
APPROVE RESOLUTION NO. 2005-50, A
RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION
OF THE aTY OF LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA,
APPROVING A MINOR DESIGN REVIEW OF A
TWO. STORY SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENCE
LOCATED AT 16852 ULMER STREET, ASSESSOR
PARCEL NUMBER 378-181-70
3. Minor Design Review of a Single Family Residence located at 214 Davis Street
Gty Manager Brady provided a brief overview of the proposed project and requested
Associate Planner Miller review it with the Commission and answer questions.
Associate Planner Miller provided an overview of the project.
Carlo Sampson, 43261 Modena Dr., Temecula, stated that he read and understood the staff
report and conditions of approval.
Commissioner Larimer had no comment.
Commissioner Gonzales confinued that the framework was the same as the home in Item
No.2.
Ch.ainnan LaPere stated that he supported staff's recommendation and the rendering.
MOVED BY GONZALES, SECONDED BY
LARIMER AND PASSED BY A VOTE OF 3-0 TO
APPROVE RESOLUTION NO. 2005-51, A
RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION
OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA,
APPROVING MINOR DESIGN REVIEW FOR A
SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE LOCATED AT 214
Agenda Item No.
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DAVIS STREET - APN 374-121-008
Carlo Sampson noted the challenges with architectural standards as they relate to
manufactured homes. He invited the Commissioners to visit the manufacturer in order to
see the quality and workmanship that is associated with the manufactured homes produced.
He . f~er noted that the City staff needed support to assist with the high number of
projects ill process.
PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS
4. Sign Progrnm No. 2005-01 and Variance No. 2005-02
Chairman LaPere opened the Public Hearing at 6:27 pm.
City Manager Brady provided a brief overview of the project and requested Associate
Planner Coury review it with the Commission and answer questions.
Associate Planner Coury provided an overview and background of the proposed sign
program and variance. He noted that the variance was in relation to the overall height,
number, and square footage ofthe freeway pylon signs. He indicated that the freeway
elevation and the pad elevation differed by 25 feet, and the applicant was requesting the
increase in height due to the addition of the Target sign to the pylon sign. The intent of
the variance was to allow the Target sign to be included on the Home Depot sign in order
to decrease the total number of signs on the project site.
Frank Coda, 408 60 St., Huntington Beach stated that he understood the staff report and
conditions of approval; and he had no questions.
Tim Fleming, Lake Elsinore, addressed the signage and requested that the Commission
consider the appearance of the 1-15 freeway in the future as it relates to signage. He
noted that he was not opposed to the proposed signage.
Craig Olsen, 15226 Lakeview Cl., requested clarification as to the height of the proposed
SIgn.
Associate Planner Coury provided clarification as to the location and the heights of the
signs. He noted that Freeway Pylon sign #1 was located at the north-east corner of the
sight and was proposed to be 73'; and Pylon Sign #2 located at the south-east portion of
the sight was proposed to be 88'.
Commissioner Gonzales addressed the height of the sign and indicated that 88' was eight
stories high.
Agenda Item No.
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City Manager Brady noted that the Outlet Center sign is 81' high and there was a seven
foot difference between that and the proposed Home Depot sign.
Associate Planner Coury further noted that the difference between the freeway elevation
and the Outlet Center freeway sign is 12 feet, so the Outlet Center sign would be
approximately 7 feet taller.
Commissioner Gonzales clarified the location of the signs and number of signs proposed.
Associate Planner Coury noted that the height of the signs was necessary to inform traffic
on the north-bound side of the 1-15 freeway was to indicate to the traffic that the offramp
was approaching and allow enough time to exit.
Commissioner Gonzales suggested that smaller freeway signs would be nicer.
Engineering Manager Seumalo noted that the freeway signs would be 1200 feet apart.
Commissioner Gonzales noted that one sign was sufficient and one sign out of four
would have Target on it.
Commissioner Larimer indicated that she voted no for SOS signs and that sign was a
disaster. She further noted her concern for the image of the City. She stated that the
signs were too tall, there were too many and they were too big. She stated that she could
not support the variance, but the design was nice.
Chairman LaPere requested a motion to continue the item to a future date to allow for
refinement of the proposed sign program. He requested a comparison of this sign to the
Costco/Lowe's sign.
Associate Planner Coury stated that Costco had two freeway pylon signs that were 61 feet
high and a twelve foot difference between pad and freeway elevation. There was
discussion regarding the differences and similarities between the Costco/Lowe's and
Home Depot signs.
Mr. Coda indicated that ifthey used only one sign for Home Depot, it would not have a
place for Target. He indicated that the height of the signs was negotiable and clarified
the purpose for the proposed heights.
There being no further business, Chairman LaPere closed the Public Hearing at 6:45 pm.
MOVED BY LARIMER, SECONDED BY GONZALES AND
PASSED BY A VOTE OF 3-0 TO CONTINUE SIGN PROGRAM
Agenda Item No.
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NO. 2005-01 AND VARIANCE NO. 2005-02 TO PLANNING
COMMISSION MEETING ON MAY 17, 2005.
5. Conditional Use Permit No. 2005-05 and Finding of Public Convenience and
Necessity for the sale of alcoholic (beer and wine) beverages at the
approved Gas Station. Mini- Mart and Automated Car Wash located on the
southwest comer of Canyon Estates and Summerltill Drive ( s ).
Chainnan LaPere opened the Public Hearing at 6:46 pm.
Gty Manager Brady provided a brief overview of the proposed project and requested
Planning Manager Preisendanz review the item with the Commission and answer questions.
Planning Manager Preisendanz introduced Associate Planner Reiner as a new addition to the
Planning Division and noted that the project before them was her project. He provided an
overview of the Conditional Use Pennit issued previously and noted the additional
conditions of approval. He indicated that the applicant, who was interested in purchasing
the property had applied to the ABC Board for a license, which was pending. He provided a
description of the location of the establishment. He further indicated that the ABC Board
had requested a Finding of Public Convenience and Necessity from the Gty prior to issuing
of the license to the applicant. He indicated that the Chief of Police submitted a letter
stating his objection to the alcohol license, however if ABC issued the license, then he would
support the Type 20 license. He noted that the applicant was willing to provide a barrier
between the store and street frontage to enhance prohibition. He noted that hours of
operation would be 5 a.m. to 11 p.m.
Chainnan LaPere requested clarification as to the number of licenses ABC had issued in the
area.
Planning Manager Preisendanz indicated that there were three licenses issued per census
tract and two had been issued in this census tract, so a third is available to this applicant.
Nader Rabban, 2681 Hidden Trail Dr., Jamul, Ca., addressed the traffic issue in the
intersection and indicated that this business would relieve traffic in the area. He provided an
overview of his other businesses, all family owned and operated.
Vida Boice, 17 Pulte Negra, Lake Elsinore, stated her opposition to the project.
Commissioner Gonzales clarified that the project had already been approved, but without
the alcoholic beverage sales option. He stated his opposition to the location being near a
public park
Commissioner Larimer noted her concern with liquor in the neighborhood.
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Mr. Rabban stated that alcohol was everywhere and the location of his establishment would
reduce traffic issues. He noted the barrier would discourage people from crossing the street
into the park
Commissioner Larimer noted that she heard him say that if he sold alcohol at the comer it
would solve traffic issues.
Mr. Rabban clarified that the convenience of the establishment would relieve traffic.
Commissioner Larimer stated that the project had been previously approved without alcohol
sales permitted.
Michael Mead, 361-C Railroad Cyn Rd. provided a brief overview of the background of the
previously approved project, which did not allow alcohol sales. He indicated that the
purpose of this request to allow alcohol sales would encourage the business owner to make
additional improvements to the establishment.
Commissioner Larimer stated that what she heard Mr. Mead encourage was drinking and
driving. She stated that what she heard Mr. Mead say was that there was under age kids, a
park and alcohol. She asked Mr. Mead to make her hear something different.
There was discussion as to the different facets of the proposed business.
Joe Boice, Tuscany Hills, stated his concern for the local park and children attempting to
cross the street for snacks.
Chairman LaPere requested clarification as to ABCs requirement relative to residents.
Planning Manager Preisendanz stated that ABC had requested the Gty to make a Finding of
Convenience and Necessity. He noted that the project met the requirements for the
establishment to be 100 feet from residents and 600 feet from a park He further noted the
additional enhancements to the convenience store and the willingness of the applicant to
work with staff.
Chairman LaPere clarified that the project had been approved prior to this meeting, but
without the beer and wine sales. There was discussion regarding the impact that the sales of
beer and wine would have on the success of the convenience store.
Commissioner Gonzales asked if the sale of the business would terminate if the request for
alcohol sales was denied.
Mr. Raddan confirmed.
There being no further business, Chairman LaPere closed the Public Hearing at 7:22 p.m.
Agenda Item No.
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Chairman LaPere asked if the Cmnmission could take a position as it relates to the Gty
Council.
Gty Manager Brady stated that a Conditional Use Permit was final at the Planning
Commission, but the applicant may file an appeal to Gty Council in the event of a denial.
MOVED BY LAPERE, BUT THE ITEM FAILED DUE TO LACK.
OF A SECOND TO APPROVE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO.
2005-05 AND FINDING OF PUBLIC CONVENIENCE AND
NECESSITY FOR THE SALE OF ALCOHOLIC (BEER AND
WINE) BEVERAGES AT THE APPROVED GAS STATION,
MINI-MART AND AUTOMATED CAR. WASH LOCATED ON
THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF CANYON ESTATES AND
SUMMERHILL DRIVE(S).
Chairman LaPere noted that the applicant had ten days to appeal the denial to the Gty
Council.
BUSINESS ITEMS
NONE
INFORMATIONAL
NONE
STAFF COMMENTS
Gt.)' Manager Brady commented on the following:
. Welcomed] enifer Reiner to the Planning Division staff.
PLANNING COMMISSIONER COMMENTS
Commissioner Larimer commented on the following:
. Welcomed ]enifer Reiner to staff;
. Stated that her decision was not personal.
Commissioner Gonzales commented on the following:
. Stated that he hoped that the applicant went forward with his car wash project;
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. Welcomed Jenifer Reiner to the Planning staff.
Chairman LaPere commented on the following:
. Thanked the residents for attending the meeting.
. Thanked staff for their efforts in providing the Commission with thorough and
complete infonnation so that they could make a strong decision on proposed
projects;
. Welcomed Jenifer Reiner and wished her good luck;
. Suggested that the applicant go forward with item to the Gty Council and not get
discouraged with the lack of approval from the Planning Commission.
ADJOURNMENT
THERE BEING NO FURTHER BUSINESS, CHAIRMAN LAPERE
ADJOURNED THE MEETING AT 7:28 PM ON MAY 3,2005.
~
Ron LaPere, Chairman
Respectfully Submitted,
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Lisa C Alexen
Office Specialist III
Agenda Item No.
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MINUTES
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
aTY OF LAKE ELSINORE
183 NORTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CA 92530
TUESDAY, MAY 17, 2005
CALL TO ORDER:
Chairman LaPere called the Regular Planning Gmunission Meeting to order at 6:05 PM
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE:
Gty Manager Brady led the Pledge of Allegiance.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: COMMISSIONERS:
LAPERE, O'NEAL, GONZALES,
LARIMER
ABSENT:
COMMISSIONERS:
Also present were: Gty Manager Brady, Planning Manager Preisendanz, Deputy Gty
Attorney Miles, Engineering Manager Seumalo, Associate Planner Coury and Office
Specialist Alexen.
PUBLIC COMMENTS (Non-agendized items)
NONE
CONSENT CALENDAR
1. Minutes
a. Regular Planning Commission Minutes of April 19 , 2005
MOVED BY LARIMER, SECONDED BY
GONZALES AND PASSED BY A VOTE OF 4-0 TO
APPROVE THE CONSENT CALENDAR.
Agenda Item No.
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PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS
2. Sign Program No. 2005-01 and Variance No. 2005-02
Chairman LaPere opened the Public Hearing at 6:10 pm.
City Manager Brady provided a brief overview of the project and requested Associate
Planner Coury review it with the Commission and answer questions.
Associate Planner Coury provided an overview and background of the proposed sign
program and variance. He noted that the item had been continued from the previous
Planning Commission Meeting and it was being brought forward with modifications. He
noted that the original height of the Home Depot sign was 88 feet and the applicant had
modified it to 79 feet. He noted a modification to the Target sign from a square shape to a
rectangular shape. He noted that the center identification sign was reduced to 32 feet and
the pylon sign remained 73 feet. He further noted that the two parcels which abut the
freeway were approved for one pylon sign per parcel.
Associate Planner Coury noted that the Costco/Lowe's sign located on the opposite side of
the freewaywas approved to stand 49 feet above the freeway and the Home Depot sign
would stand 48 feet above the freeway.
Frank Coda, 408 60th St., Huntington Beach stated that he understood the staff report and
conditions of approval; and he had no questions.
Commissioner Gonzales addressed the area of the Target sign and stated that he supported
the reduction.
Commissioner O'Neal stated that the sign was appropriate and that the variance was
consistent with the overall design of the project. He noted his support for the sign.
Commissioner Larimer had no comment.
Chairman LaPere stated that the reduction was a positive modification to the size of the sign
and stated that it was well done. He commended staff for their effort.
There being no further business, Chairman LaPere closed the Public Hearing at 6:15 p.rn.
MOVED BY GONZALES, SECONDED BY
LARIMER AND PASSED BY A VOTE OF 4-0 TO
ADOPT RESOLUTION NO. 2005-52, A
RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION
OF THE aTY OF LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA,
APPROVING VARIANCE NO. 2005-02 FOR
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VARIOUS SIGNAGE PROPOSED WITHIN THE
SIGN PROGRAM FOR THE PROJECT KNOWN AS
THE LAKE ELSINORE SQUARE LOCATED ON
20.93 ACRES AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF
CENTRAL AND COLLIER AVENUES.
MOVED BY GONZALES, SECONDED BY
LARIMER AND PASSED BY A VOTE OF 4-0 TO
ADOPT RESOLUTION NO. 2005-53, A
RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION
OF THE OTY OF LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA,
APPROVING SIGN PROGRAM NO. 2005-01 FOR
THE COMMEROAL RETAIL CENTER KNOWN AS
LAKE ELSINORE SQUARE LOCATED ON 20.93
ACRES AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF
CENTRAL AND COLLIER AVENUES
BUSINESS ITEMS
NONE
INFORMATIONAL
. Gty Manager Brady welcomed Vice Chairman O'Neal back to the Planning
Commission meeting since his injury;
. Indicated that the Appeal to Gty Conncll for Conditional Use Pennit No. 2005-05
and Finding of Public Convenience and Necessity for the sale of alcoholic (beer and
wine) beverages at the approved Gas Station, Mini- Mart and Automated Car
Wash located on the southwest comer of Canyon Estates and Summerhill Drive(s)
would be heard at the next GtyConncll Meeting scheduled for May 24th.
STAFF COMMENTS
Planning Manager Preisendanz commented on the following:
. Welcomed Gndy Schmidt to the Planning Division staff.
PLANNING COMMISSIONER COMMENTS
Commissioner Gonzales commented on the following:
. Addressed emergency access issues facing the gated communities in the Gty;
· Welcomed Vice Chairman O'Neal back to the Planning Commission meeting.
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. Welcomed Gndy Sclunidt to the Planning Division staff.
V ire OJairrrun aN ea1 CXJrm1!Yl1Hi on the fdl~
. Stated that it W1S g:xxi to le Imk to the Planning OJrnnissionMeet~;
. Nmrl that the OJrnnissiarm rmied to exercise caution uhen ra approring rBJUl'Sts far liquor
salts, uhen it had lren appruu:rl by the A Be as it W1S related to the Conlitional Use Pemit N a
2005- 05 am F irxling if Public Comenierx:e am N ocessiry far the sale if alaixlic (lxfl- am 'liirx?)
ber.era[!5 at the appruu:rl Gas Station, Mini-Mart arxlA utormted Gtr Wash la:ated on the
sa/tJm.est rorrx:r if Gtrrpn E statfs arxl S W11I11?Ihill Driu(s), uhUh had lren J>>Watsly appruu:rl
Commissioner Larimer commented on the following:
. Welcomed Vice Chainnan O'Neal back to the Planning Commission meetings;
. Welcomed Gndy Sclunidt to the Planning Division staff;
. Addressed the removal of SOS Storage banners.
Chainnan LaPere commented on the following:
. Thanked staff and Kirt for their efforts in comparing the Home Depot sign with the
Costco/Lowe's signs;
. Noted that the newsletter for the atizen's Committee would be in the mail;
. Welcomed Vice Chairman O'Neal back to the Planning Commission meetings.
Deputy aty Attorney Miles commented on the following:
. Welcomed Vice Chainnan O'Neal back to the Planning Commission meetings.
ADJOURNMENT
THERE BEING NO FURTHER BUSINESS, CHAIRMAN LAPERE
ADJOURNED THE MEETING AT 6:27 PM ON MAY 17, 2005.
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Respectfully Submitted,
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Lisa Alexen
Office Specialist III
MINUTES
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PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
183 NORTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CA 92530
TUESDAY, JUNE 21, 2005
CALL TO ORDER:
Chairman LaPere called the Regular Planning Commission Meeting to order at 6:02 PM.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE:
Vice Chairman O'Neal led the Pledge Of Allegiance.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: COMMISSIONERS:
LAPERE, O'NEAL, GONZALES,
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS:
LARIMER
Also present were: City Manager Brady, Planning Manager Preisendanz, Deputy City
Attorney Miles, Engineering Manager Moehling, Associate Planner Coury, Associate Planner
Donahoe, Associate Planner Miller and Office Specialist Alexen.
PUBLIC COMMENTS (Non-A!!endized items)
NONE
CONSENT CALENDAR
1. Minutes
a. Regular Planning Commission Minutes of June 7, 2005
MOVED BY O'NEAL, SECONDED BY GONZALES AND
PASSED BY A VOTE OF 3-0 TO APPROVE THE CONSENT
CALENDAR.
Agenda Item No.
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PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS
2. Mithmted Ne2:ative Declaration MND 2005-02 Cotta2:e Lane Specific Plan
Proiect No. SP 2004-01. Tentative Tract Map No. 32996. Residential Desi2:n
Review No. R 2005-06
Chairman LaPere opened the Public Hearing at 6:05 p.m.
City Manager Brady provided a brief overview of the proposed project and requested Associate
Planner Coury review it with the Commission and answer questions.
Associate Planner Coury provided an overview of the project and noted that it was located
between Machado and Riverside Drives on Una Lane. He further noted that the density was low
to medium residential and that there were four architectural styles proposed in the project. He
indicated that there would be a Community Park and a Home Owners Association. He stated
that the outstanding issue in the initial study for this project was the question as to whether Una
Lane was a private or public street. He referred to an exhibit which identified Una Lane offered
as a street dedication that the City had not yet accepted, but could accept in the future. He noted
that a neighborhood meeting had been conducted.
David Leonard, Wesco Homes, stated that he had nothing to add or change in the staff report.
He requested a change in Condition No. 74, page 31 of99 to read "In the event that downstream
flood control facilities will not accept increased runoff, the applicant shall provide for detention
of storm water run off greater than the existing unimproved condition. Outlet of detention
facility shall be consistent with volume, direction and character of the historic flow." He
addressed condition no. 51 on page 29 of 99, to eliminate "project streets" from the condition.
He thanked staff for the long hours and effort spent on this project. He noted efforts made to
maintain contact with the residents and address various issues.
Gloria Cyguan, Una Lane Association, read a letter she had submitted to the Planning
Department and the City Council Members which addressed several traffic, street and
maintenance issues.
Chris Hyland, Wavecrest Dr. Lake Elsinore, noted that the map used for this project was
fictitious and further noted her concerns with traffic issues.
Pat Kilroy, 3940 Ulla Lane, noted that he was an employee of the City of Lake Elsinore as well
as a concerned citizen. He commended staff for their efforts in the proposed project. He noted
the general plan was the City's Constitution and it should be amended with great care. He
provided an overview of the current zoning in the project area and the requirements of the
current General Plan. He addressed his concerns with public safety on page 3 of 99, Item No.5
and noted that Una Lane was a rural street with no sidewalks or streetlights. He requested that
Agenda Item No.
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the Planning Commission reject the proposed project and continue the Public Hearing to a later
date.
Mary Lewis, 3820 Ulla Lane, addressed the quality of life on Ulla Lane and noted it was quaint
and peaceful with virtually no traffic. She stated her opposition to the proposed project. She
stated that the street was private.
Mark McDorman, 3740 Ulla Lane, noted his concern for the proposed project. He addressed the
issue of the public or private status of the street and traffic issues. He indicated that a gate could
be installed at the end of the street for emergency access purposes.
Robert Sedlak, 3760 Ulla Lane, stated his opposition to the proposed project and that he would
be forced to relocate if the project was approved. He addressed fire safety issues associated with
the project.
Chairman LaPere clarified ifUlla Lane was a private street.
Assistant City Attorney Miles provided an explanation about the offer of dedication that was
made on Ulla Lane and rejected by the City. He further explained that the street would remain
private until the City accepted the offer of dedication. He noted that the City can accept the
dedication and make it a public street. He clarified that under Code 710 of the Subdivision Map
Act, in the event the offer of dedication was rejected by the City, Ulla Lane was technically a
public street until such time as the City accepted the dedication because the road had been used
for the duration of time since the City's rejection of the dedication.
Commissioner Gonzales noted that Ulla Lane was a lovely street. He addressed the widening of
the street and emergency access issues. He requested clarification as to what would be done
first, the streets would be widened or the homes built.
John Canty, Canty Engineering Group noted that Tiller would be widened first.
There was discussion as to what would be affected by the widening ofUlla Lane and the Right of
Way.
Vice Chairman O'Neal addressed the number of homes in the project and clarified if reducing
the number of homes would be more acceptable. He stated that he understood the concerns of
the residents; however no alternatives had been presented by those residents. He noted that the
project may not be good for the neighborhood, but for different reasons than those presented by
the residents.
Chairman LaPere addressed traffic and safety issues.
Agenda Item No.
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Associate Planner Coury confirmed that staff was comfortable with the traffic analysis conducted
by the City.
Chairman LaPere noted that the City of Lake Elsinore General Plan was in the process of being
updated, however until the City Council acted on the update, Planning Commission actions
would be based on the current General Plan. He further noted safety concerns as a main issue of
the Commission. He addressed the issue regarding the public vs. private street, and noted that
the City could accept the dedication and make the necessary improvements. Chairman LaPere
addressed the possibility of an emergency gate located at the end ofUlla Lane.
Associate Planner Coury noted that the Fire Department would require the gate to be an exit
only, which would restrict the use of the gate to Collage Lane property owners only.
Dave Leonard, Leonard & Associates stated that his position was neutral regarding the gate on
Ulla Lane and stated that he would work with staff to resolve the issue.
Associate Planner Coury addressed Condition No, 59 on page 29 of99.
Vice Chairman O'Neal noted that the R-I standard should be applied.
Planning Manager Preisendanz noted that the next Planning Commission meeting had a large
number of items to be considered and suggested continuing the item to July 19th.
Associate Planner Coury clarified if Vice Chairman O'Neal had requested that the project be
redesigned according to R-1 standards
Vice Chairman O'Neal stated that he felt there should be a higher development standard for the
homes in that area.
MOVED BY O'NEAL, SECONDED BY LAPERE AND
PASSED BY A VOTE OF 3-0 TO CONTINUE MITIGATED
NEGATIVE DECLARATION MND 2005-02 COTTAGE
LANE SPECIFIC PLAN PROJECT NO. SP 2004-01,
TENTATIVE TRACT MAP NO. 32996, RESIDENTIAL
DESIGN REVIEW NO. R 2005-06 TO THE PLANNING
COMMISSION MEETING ON JULY 19, 2005 FOR
FURTHER CONSIDERATION.
Due to the continuance, the Public Hearing remains open until the item is acted on by the
Planning Commission on July 19,2005.
Agenda Item No.
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3. General Plan Amendment No. 2005-01. Amendment No.3 to the Canyon Creek
Specific Plan No. 85-1 Tentative Tract Map No. 32077 and Mitie:ated Nee:ative
Declaration No. 2005-01
Chairman LaPere opened the Public Hearing at 7:25 pm.
City Manager Brady provided a brief overview of the project and requested Associate Planner
Donahoe review it with the Commission and answer questions.
Associate Planner Donahoe provided an overview of the project and location. She noted the
design elements and stated that it consisted of 140 acres with 74.4 acres donated as open-space.
She indicated that the project was a gated community of 134 units with "Great Neighborhood"
design elements. She noted that the environmental impacts required mitigation.
Rick Shedore, La Strada Partners, 1901 W. Collins, Orange stated that he read and agreed with
the staff report and conditions of approval as presented. He thanked the Commissioners, City
Manager Brady and staff for their efforts and assistance. He reiterated that there would be 74.4
acres donated as open-space. He further noted the traffic issues and suggested a CFD to assist
with the cost of improvements.
Patty Anders, 16274-E Avenida Venusto, San Diego, applicant said she was available for
questions.
Larry D. Hall, 23 Vista Toscana, thanked staff and elected officials for their time. He addressed
his concern with insufficient information arriving on short notice. He further noted his concern
with traffic, visibility, and the General Plan.
City Manager Brady provided an overview of the interim and long term improvements to the
circulation on Railroad Canyon Road. He noted that ultimate improvements would begin this
summer.
Vice Chairman O'Neal noted his support for the project. He further noted that it was an
improvement to the area.
Commissioner Gonzales stated that he supported waterless urinals and saving the existing
cottonwoods. He requested clarification as to the access gates using remote control for
emergency access issues. He further clarified that the distance between the houses was 9 feet.
Patty Anders stated that most of the homes had more than nine feet; however a variety of
setbacks was encouraged.
There was further discussion regarding the minimum setback requirements.
Agenda Item No.
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Chairman LaPere noted his support for the project.
City Manager Brady noted that the applicant was required to pay all of the Traffic Uniform
Mitigation Fees and the Transportation Impact Fee adopted by the City as called for in Condition
No. 69.
There being no further business, Chairman LaPere closed the Public Hearing at 7:42 p.m.
MOVED BY O'NEAL, SECONDED BY GONZALES AND
PASSED BY A VOTE OF 3-0 TO ADOPT RESOLUTION
NO. 2005-58, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING
COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE,
CALIFORNIA, RECOMMENDING TO THE CITY
COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
ADOPTION OF MITIGATED NEGATIVE DECLARATION
NO. 2005-01 AND THE MITIGATION MONITORING
PROGRAM THERETO, FOR GENERAL PLAN
AMENDMENT NO. 2005-01, AMENDMENT NO.3 TO THE
CANYON CREEK SPECIFIC PLAN NO. 85-1, AND
TENTATIVE TRACT MAP NO. 32077, ON
APPROXIMATELY 140j: ACRES LOCATED NORTHEAST
OF INTERSTATE 15, APPROXIMATELY ONE MILE
WEST OF CANYON LAKE, WEST OF SUMMERHILL
DRIVE, SOUTH OF GREENWALD, AND SOUTH OF THE
EXTENSION OF LA STRADA ROAD, ADJACENT TO THE
EXISTING TUSCANY HILLS COMMUNITY TO THE
EAST, AND KNOWN AS ASSESSOR'S PARCEL NO. 363-
020-008.
MOVED BY GONZALES, SECONDED BY O'NEAL AND
PASSED BY A VOTE OF 3-0 TO ADOPT RESOLUTION
NO. 2005-59, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING
COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE,
CALIFORNIA, RECOMMENDING TO THE CITY
COUNCIL ADOPTION OF FINDINGS OF CONSISTENCY
WITH THE MULTI-SPECIES HABITAT CONSERVATION
PLAN (MSHCP) FOR THE PROJECT KNOWN AS
GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT NO. 2005-01,
AMENDMENT NO.3 TO THE CANYON CREEK SPECIFIC
PLAN NO. 85-1, AND TENTATIVE TRACT MAP NO. 32077,
LOCATED AT APN 363-020-008.
Agenda Item No.
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MOVED BY O'NEAL, SECONDED BY GONZALES AND
PASSED BY A VOTE OF 3-0 TO ADOPT RESOLUTION
NO. 2005-60, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING
COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE,
CALIFORNIA, RECOMMENDING TO THE CITY
COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
APPROVAL OF GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT NO. 2005-
01, CHANGING THE CLASSIFICATION OF LA STRADA
ROAD ON THE GENERAL PLAN CIRCULATION
ELEMENT, FROM "MAJOR ROADWAY" TO "MODIFIED
SECONDARY ROADWAY" FROM SUMMERHILL DRIVE
TO FRANKLIN STREET.
MOVED BY GONZALES, SECONDED BY O'NEAL AND
PASSED BY A VOTE OF 3-0 TO ADOPT RESOLUTION
NO. 2005-61, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING
COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE,
CALIFORNIA, RECOMMENDING TO THE CITY
COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
APPROVAL OF AMENDMENT NO.3 TO THE CANYON
CREEK SPECIFIC PLAN NO. 85-1, LOCATED
NORTHEAST OF INTERSTATE 15, APPROXIMATELY
ONE MILE WEST OF CANYON LAKE, WEST OF
SUMMERHILL DRIVE, SOUTH OF GREENWALD, AND
SOUTH OF THE EXTENSION OF LA STRADA ROAD,
ADJACENT TO THE EXISTING TUSCANY HILLS
COMMUNITY TO THE EAST, (ASSESSOR'S PARCEL NO.
363-020-008).
MOVED BY O'NEAL, SECONDED BY GONZALES AND
PASSED BY A VOTE OF 3-0 TO ADOPT RESOLUTION
NO. 2005-62, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING
COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE,
CALIFORNIA, RECOMMENDING TO THE CITY
COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
APPROVAL OF TENTATIVE TRACT MAP NO. 32077, A
SUBDIVISION OF 134 RESIDENTIAL LOTS, A
NEIGHBORHOOD PARK! RECREATIONAL FACILITY,
WATER RESERVOIR AND BASIN SITES, AND SEVEN (7)
OPEN SPACE LOTS, ON APPROXIMATELY 140:!: ACRES
LOCATED NORTHEAST OF INTERSTATE 15,
APPROXIMATELY ONE MILE WEST OF CANYON
LAKE, WEST OF SUMMERHILL DRIVE, SOUTH OF
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GREENWALD, AND SOUTH OF THE EXTENSION OF LA
STRADA ROAD, ADJACENT TO THE EXISTING
TUSCANY HILLS COMMUNITY TO THE EAST, AND
KNOWN AS ASSESSOR'S PARCEL NO. 363-020-008.
4. Conditional Use Permit No. 2004-41 and Industrial Desi!!n Review No. 2004-04 -
APN 370-080-017 & 370-080-018
Chairman LaPere opened the Public Hearing at 7:45 p.m.
City Manager Brady provided a brief overview of the project and requested Associate Planner
Miller review the project with the Commission and answer questions.
Associate Planner Miller provided an overview of the project details and location.
Leonard Leichnitz, Lumos Communities, Riverside Dr., noted that he had been working on the
project for a year and a half. He indicated that he had concern with the vision of the residents of
the City and the Specific Plan in the back basin. He further indicated that he had concern with
industrial storm water bleeding into the back basin. He requested a condition to be added to state
that if approved, the storm water runoff does not affect the volume, velocity and vector of the
storm water as in enters onto the subject property.
Commissioner Gonzales clarified as to what would be in the building.
Peter DelaTorre, thanked staff and noted that he would occupy the building with 12 employees.
He provided a description of the business. He stated that the pad would be at an elevation of
1267 feet.
Vice Chairman O'Neal had no comments.
Chairman LaPere had no comments. There being no further business, Chairman LaPere closed
the Public Hearing at 7:55 p.m.
MOVED BY GONZALES, SECONDED BY O'NEAL AND
PASSED BY A VOTE OF 3-0 TO ADOPT RESOLUTION
NO. 2005-63, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING
COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE,
CALIFORNIA, RECOMMENDING CITY COUNCIL
ADOPTION OF FINDINGS OF CONSISTENCY WITH
SECTION 6.0 OF THE MULTIPLE SPECIES HABITAT
CONSERVATION PLAN (MSHCP) FOR THE PROJCT
KNOWN AS INDUSTRIAL DESIGN REVIEW NO. 2004-04
Agenda Item No.
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TO BE LOCATED AT 32081 CORYDON STREET (APN 370-
080-017 & 018)
MOVED BY GONZALES, SECONDED BY O'NEAL AND
PASSED BY A VOTE OF 3-0 TO ADOPT RESOLUTION
NO. 2005-64 A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING
COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE,
CALIFORNIA, APPROVING CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT
NO. 2004-41 FOR INDUSTRIAL DESIGN REVIEW NO.
2004-04, TO BE LOCATED AT 32081 CORYDON STREET-
APN 370-080-017 & 018
MOVED BY GONZALES, SECONDED BY O'NEAL AND
PASSED BY A VOTE OF 3-0 TO ADOPT RESOLUTION
NO. 2005-65, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING
COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE,
CALIFORNIA, RECOMMENDING CITY COUNCIL
APPROV AL OF INDUSTRIAL DESIGN REVIEW NO. 2004-
04, TO BE LOCATED AT 32081 CORYDON STREET- APN
370-080-017 & 018
5. Tentative Parcel Map No. 33635 (For Condominium Purposes). Residential Desie:n
Review No. 2004-23 and Conditional Use Permit No. 2004-24 for Brookside Terrace.
Chairman LaPere opened the Public Hearing at 7:55 p.m.
Associate Planner Coury provided an overview of the proposed project. He noted that Brookside
Terrace was a condominium community located in the Canyon Hills Specific Plan Area No.5.
David Dunham, Pardee Homes, reviewed the exhibit book provided to the Commissioners. He
addressed Condition No. 37, on page 24 of30 and Condition No. 15, on page 21 of30 pertaining
to affordable housing. He agreed with the staff report and remaining Conditions of Approval.
Commissioner Gonzales addressed access into gated communities and waterless urinals.
Vice Chairman O'Neal concurred with staffs recommendation.
Chairman LaPere concurred with staffs recommendation and thanked the applicant
There being no further business, Chairman LaPere closed the Public Hearing at 8:05 p.m.
MOVED BY GONZALES, SECONDED BY O'NEAL AND
PASSED BY A VOTE OF 3-0 TO ADOPT RESOLUTION
Agenda Item No.
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NO. 2005-66, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING
COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE,
CALIFORNIA, RECOMMENDING CITY COUNCIL
APPROVAL OF TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP NO. 33635
FOR BROOKSIDE TERRACE A RESIDENTIAL
CONDOMINIUM COMPLEX TO BE LOCATED WITHIN
PLANNING AREA 5 OF THE CANYON HILLS SPECIFIC
PLAN.
MOVED BY O'NEAL, SECONDED BY GONZALES AND
PASSED BY A VOTE OF 3-0 TO ADOPT RESOLUTION
NO. 2005-67, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING
COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE,
CALIFORNIA, RECOMMENDING CITY COUNCIL
APPROVAL OF RESIDENTIAL DESIGN REVIEW NO.
2004-23 FOR THE DESIGN, CONSTRUCTION AND
ESTABLISHMENT OF "BROOKSIDE TERRACE" A
RESIDENTIAL CONDOMINIUM COMPLEX, TO BE
LOCATED WITHIN PLANNING AREA 5 OF THE
CANYON HILLS SPECIFIC PLAN
MOVED BY GONZALES, SECONDED BY O'NEAL AND
PASSED BY A VOTE OF 3-0 TO ADOPT RESOLUTION
NO. 2005-68, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING
COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE,
CALIFORNIA, APPROVING CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT
NO. 2005-08 FOR THE ESTABLISHMENT OF
"BROOKSIDE TERRACE" A RESIDENTIAL
CONDOMINIUM COMPLEX, TO BE LOCATED WITHIN
PLANNING AREA 5 OF THE CANYON HILLS SPECIFIC
PLAN.
6. Pacific Clay Annexation
Chainnan LaPere opened the Public Hearing at 8:06 p.m.
City Manager Brady provided a brief overview of the project and requested Associate Planner
Donahoe review the proposed project with the Commission.
Associate Planner Donahoe noted that the project was a City initiated annexation and pre-zoning
for the Pacific Clay project. She provided an overview of the project location and background
infonnation on the mining operation. She noted that it was an uncontested annexation because it
had the owner's support.
Agenda Item No.
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Tom Tomlinson, Castle & Cooke, 17600 Collier Ave, indicated that Castle & Cooke were
committed to working in the City of Lake Elsinore.
Chairman LaPere commended Castle & Cooke for saving three oak trees on Lake Street.
Vice Chairman O'Neal stated his support for the project.
Commissioner Gonzales requested clarification as to the activity near the annexation area.
Chairman LaPere noted his support for the project.
There being no further business, Chairman LaPere closed the Public Hearing at 8: 12 p.m.
MOVED BY GONZALES, SECONDED BY O'NEAL AND
PASSED BY A VOTE OF 3-0 TO ADOPT RESOLUTION
NO. 2005-69, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING
COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE,
CALIFORNIA, RECOMMENDING TO THE CITY
COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
APPROVAL OF ZONE CHANGE (PRE-ZONE) NO. 2005-05
TO CHANGE THE ZONING DESIGNATION OF THE
PARCELS SPECIFICALLY DESCRIBED AS (APN(S) 391-
170-005, 007, 391-200-003, 004, 007, 391-230-002, 003, 004, 005,
007, 009, 010, 390-130-006, 015, 016, 020, 021, 024, 390-160-
001, 002, 011, 012, 391-240-011, 012, 391-240-001, 390-170-001,
391-260-001, 389-020-032, 390-190-011, 012, 013, 389-080-037,
and 389-020-036 TO M-3 MINERAL RESOURCES AND
RELATED MANUFACTURING SUBJECT TO
COMPLETION OF THE ANNEXATION NO. 72.
MOVED BY O'NEAL, SECONDED BY GONZALES AND
PASSED BY A VOTE OF 3-0 TO ADOPT RESOLUTION
NO. 2005-70, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING
COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE,
CALIFORNIA, RECOMMENDING TO THE CITY
COUNCIL THE COMMENCEMENT OF PROCEEDINGS
TO ANNEX THE TERRITORY DESIGNATED AS
ANNEXATION 72 (APN(S) 391-170-005, 007, 391-200-003,
004, 007, 391-230-002, 003, 004, 005, 007, 009, 010, 390-130-
006, 015, 016, 020, 021, 024, 390-160-001, 002, 011, 012, 391-
240-011, 012, 391-240-001, 390-170-001, 391-260-001, 389-020-
032, 390-190-011, 012, 013, 389-080-037, and 389-020-036
Agenda Item No.
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INTO THE CORPORATE BOUNDARIES OF THE CITY OF
LAKE ELSINORE.
BUSINESS ITEMS
None
INFORMATIONAL
. Stated that the Chamber Mixer was sponsored by the City on Thursday, June 23rd at
6:30;
. Stated that Saturday was the first General Plan Update Workshop with 75 people in
attendance and noted the schedule for future workshops
STAFF COMMENTS
City Manager Brady commented on the following:
. Welcomed Ken Seumalo back for the meeting;
. Welcomed Bob Moeling as interim Engineering Manager;
Associate Planner Coury commented on the following:
. Congratulated City Manager Brady for his appointment of City Manager
PLANNING COMMISSIONER COMMENTS
Vice Chairman O'Neal commented on the following:
. Congratulated City Manager Brady on his position;
Commissioner Gonzales commented on the following:
. Congratulated City Manager Brady on his position;
Chairman LaPere commented on the following:
. Congratulated City Manager Brady on his position;
. Commended City Manager Brady for his efforts his achievements.
City Manager Brady reminded the Commission that the Planning Commission and Public Safety
Advisory Committee application process closed on June 30th.
Agenda Item No.
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ADJOURNMENT
THERE BEING NO FURTHER BUSINESS, CHAIRMAN LAPERE ADJOURNED
THE MEETING AT 8:10 PM ON JUNE 21, 2005.
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MINUTES
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
183 NORTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CA 92530
TUESDAY, JULY 5, 2005
CALL TO ORDER:
Chairman LaPere called the Regular Planning Commission Meeting to order at 6:07 PM.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE:
City Manager Brady led the Pledge Of Allegiance.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: COMMISSIONERS:
LAPERE, O'NEAL, GONZALES,
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS:
LARIMER
Also present were: City Manager Brady, Planning Manager Preisendanz, Deputy City
Attorney Miles, Engineering Manager Moehling, Associate Planner Coury, Associate
Planner Resendiz, Associate Planner Reiner, Associate Planner Miller and Office
Specialist Alexen.
PUBLIC COMMENTS (Non-A2endized items)
NONE
CONSENT CALENDAR
1. Minor Desi2n Review for a Sin2le-Familv Residence located at 407 Franklin
Street. Assessor Parcel Number 373-032-009.
Chairman LaPere noted a correction to the address on the page 7 of 18 of the staff
report to read 407 Franklin St.
2. Minor Desi2n Review for a Sin2le Familv Residence located at 505 Adobe
Street (APN 377-274-026).
Agenda Item No.
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3. Minor Desie:n Review for a Sine:le-Familv Residence located at 31190 Kansas
Street. Assessor Parcel Number 379-204-008.
Chairman LaPere pulled Item No.4 for further discussion.
MOVED BY O'NEAL, SECONDED BY GONZALES
AND PASSED BY A VOTE OF 3-0 TO APPROVE
THE BALANCE OF THE CONSENT CALENDAR
WITH THE NOTED CORRECTION TO ITEM NO.1.
4. Minor Desie:n Review of a Sine:le Familv Residence located at 29360 Kalina
Street and Variance No. 2005-05. Assessor Parcel Number(s) 378-233-004
and 005.
City Manager Brady provided a brief overview of the proposed project and requested
Associate Planner Reiner review it with the Commission and answer questions.
Associate Planner Reiner provided an overview of the proposed project location and
design. She noted that the parcel consisted of two small lots to form one pie-shaped lot.
She indicated that a variance was requested to address set back requirements.
Jim Wilson, 4107 Center Ave., Norco, stated that he read and agreed with the staff report
and Conditions of Approval.
James Cifu, 16721 McPherson Ave., Lake Elsinore, addressed the condition of the lots
and stated that he was opposed to the project.
Rebecca Conner, 29401 Pierce Ave., Lake Elsinore, addressed overcrowding in the
neighborhood and her concerns with drainage.
C. Brett Fletcher, 29356 Kalina Ave, Lake Elsinore, noted his concern with setbacks and
fire safety.
Willeta Graves, 16748 Gunnerson Ave., Lake Elsinore, noted her opposition to the
project.
Michael Lewis, 29431 Kalina Ave., Lake Elsinore, noted his concern with manufactured
homes, flooding, water issues and fire safety.
William Limebrook, 19444 Kalina Ave., Lake Elsinore, stated that the Country Club
Heights area had inadequate water for the project and noted his opposition to
manufactured homes.
Agenda Item No.
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Lauren St. Vincent, 29444 Kalina Ave., Lake Elsinore, stated her opposition to the
project.
City Manager Brady stated that California State Law prohibited restriction of
manufactured homes from approval. He indicated that the combination of the two lots
exceeded the R-l zoning requirements. He further indicated that a perk test had been
done on the subject property prior to the issuance of a building permit. He addressed
issues with water and noted the letter from Elsinore Water District which confirmed their
ability to service the proposed residence.
Chairman LaPere noted that the City of Lake Elsinore General Plan was in the process of
being updated, so the proposed projects were reviewed as per the current General Plan.
He further noted that manufactured homes could not be prohibited under State Law. He
indicated that the Design Review process would ensure that the appearance of the home
met the design standards of the City of Lake Elsinore.
Vice Chairman O'Neal noted that he was a resident of Country Club Heights. He
concurred with concerns regarding water and fire flow. He stated that his responsibility
as a Planning Commissioner was to review the entire project package and vote for or
against it.
Commissioner Gonzales noted that he was a resident of County Club Heights and
addressed the variance for the setbacks.
Jim Wilson stated that the garage was a side entrance, which the code allowed with a 15
foot setback requirement.
Chairman LaPere noted that he was a resident of Country Club Heights and stated that he
understood the resident's concerns. He addressed the issues with Elsinore Water District;
however there was nothing the Commission could do about the District. He stated that
the property owner had the right to develop their property. He further stated that the staff
report was thorough.
Associate Planner Reiner addressed the variance for setback requirements of the house.
She noted that the garage met the setback requirements; therefore it was not included in
the request for the variance. She addressed drainage concerns and provided an overview
of the drainage plan.
Chairman LaPere stated that his main concern was water pressure and fire safety as it
related to Elsinore Water District and the Country Club Heights area.
Agenda Item No.
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City Manager Brady stated that the Lake Elsinore Municipal Code allowed development
of legally subdivided lots, if they met the requirements.
Planning Manager Preisendanz indicated that the variance was reviewed by staff and all
issues had been considered. He noted that the calculation letter provided by Elsinore
Water District was the only documentation they would provide, other than the Will Serve
Letter.
Assistant City Attorney Miles addressed the variance and corrected page 11 of27, No.2
to read, "applicable to the subject property which do not apply generally..."
Commissioner Gonzales requested clarification as to the location of the septic tank.
Mr. Wilson noted the location of the septic tank as shown on the site plan. He further
noted that a perk test was done as per Riverside County Health Dept. requirements.
MOVED BY GONZALES, SECONDED BY O'NEAL
AND PASSED BY A VOTE OF 3-0 TO APPROVE
RESOLUTION NO. 2005-74, A RESOLUTION OF
THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA, APPROVING A
MINOR DESIGN REVIEW OF A SINGLE FAMILY
RESIDENCE LOCATED AT 29360 KALINA
AVENUE, ASSESSOR PARCEL NUMBER(S) 378-
233-004 & -005.
MOVED BY O'NEAL, SECONDED BY GONZALES
AND PASSED BY A VOTE OF 3-0 TO APPROVE
RESOLUTION NO. 2005-75, A RESOLUTION OF
THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA, APPROVING
VARIANCE NO. 2005-05 FOR A REDUCTION IN
FRONT AND REAR YARD REQUIREMENTS FOR A
SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE LOCATED ON
ASSESSOR PARCEL NUMBER(S) 378-233-004 & -
005.
Chairman LaPere recessed the Regular Planning Commission Meeting at 6:55 p.m.
The Regular Planning Commission Meeting reconvened at 7:00 p.m.
Agenda Item No.
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PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS
5. General Plan Amendment No. 2005-05 and Zone Chane:e No. 2005-06
Chairman LaPere opened the Public Hearing at 7:00 p.m.
City Manager Brady provided a brief overview of the item and requested Planning
Manager Preisendanz review it with the Commission and answer questions.
Planning Manager Preisendanz noted that it was a clean-up item with regards to a
previous zone change. He provided an overview of the project and location. He
indicated that the applications were a response to a Resolution approved for Lake
Chevrolet which did not include a lot line adjustment previously approved. He indicated
that the City was requesting to change the zoning from General Commercial to Medium-
High Density. He stated that Associated Builders intended to build town homes on the
site and that it would be a positive addition to the neighborhood.
Tom Leonard, 1589 Mill St., Lake Elsinore, addressed the zoning and stated his
opposition to the project.
Commissioner Gonzales requested clarification as to the number of units per acre at the
site.
Planning Manager Preisendanz stated that the applicant was proposing a lower density
project than was allowed.
Commissioner Gonzales noted his concern with the number of units allowed in the direct
vicinity of a school.
Planning Manager Preisendanz noted that those issues would be addressed at the Design
Review through a Mitigated Negative Declaration or an environmental evaluation. He
noted the buffer between the school and the commercial property.
Vice Chairman O'Neal had no comment.
Chairman LaPere addressed the future of Franklin Street.
Planning Manager Preisendanz stated that the General Plan Update Committee was
looking at the traffic flow on Franklin St. He noted that this project did not consider
Franklin Street.
There was discussion regarding the Circulation Element in the City and the General Plan
Update.
Agenda Item No.
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There being no further business, Chairman LaPere closed the Public Hearing at 7:08 p.m.
MOVED BY O'NEAL, SECONDED BY LAPERE,
THE RESOLUTION FAILED BY A VOTE OF 2-1
WITH GONZALES CASTING THE DISSENTING
VOTE FOR A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING
COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE,
CALIFORNIA, RECOMMENDING TO THE CITY
COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
APPROVAL OF GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT
NO. 2005-05 FOR THE THIRD CYCLE OF
CALENDAR YEAR 2005 AMENDING THE LAND
USE DESIGNATION OF THE PARCELS
SPECIFICALLY DESCRIBED AS PARCEL NO(S) 2,
3 AND 4 ON EXHIBIT "A" OF LOT LINE
ADJUSTMENT NO. 2004-08 FROM GENERAL
COMMERCIAL (GC) TO MEDIUM HIGH DENSITY
(MHD) RESIDENTIAL.
Assistant City Attorney Miles stated that the measure failed for lack of a majority vote of
the entire Planning Commission. He explained that in order for the measure to pass a
General Plan Amendment, a vote with at least 3 in favor is required. He indicated that
the measure would proceed to City Council for review.
Vice Chairman O'Neal requested that Chairman LaPere call for another motion to
approve.
MOVED BY O'NEAL, SECONDED BY LAPERE,
THE RESOLUTION FAILED BY A VOTE OF 2-1
WITH GONZALES CASTING THE DISSENTING
VOTE FOR A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING
COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE,
CALIFORNIA, RECOMMENDING TO THE CITY
COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
APPROVAL OF GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT
NO. 2005-05 FOR THE THIRD CYCLE OF
CALENDAR YEAR 2005 AMENDING THE LAND
USE DESIGNATION OF THE PARCELS
SPECIFICALLY DESCRIBED AS PARCEL NO(S) 2,
3 AND 4 ON EXHIBIT "A" OF LOT LINE
ADJUSTMENT NO. 2004-08 FROM GENERAL
Agenda Item No.
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-
COMMERCIAL (GC) TO MEDIUM HIGH DENSITY
(MHD) RESIDENTIAL.
MOVED BY O'NEAL, SECONDED BY LAPERE,
THE RESOLUTION FAILED BY A VOTE OF 2-1
WITH GONZALES CASTING THE DISSENTING
VOTE FOR A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING
COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE,
CALIFORNIA, RECOMMENDING TO THE CITY
COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
APPROV AL OF ZONE CHANGE NO. 2005-06
CHANGING THE ZONING DESIGNATION OF THE
PARCELS SPECIFICALLY DESCRIBED AS
PARCEL NO(S) 2, 3 AND 4 ON EXHIBIT "A" OF
LOT LINE ADJUSTMENT NO. 2004-08 FROM C-2
(GENERAL COMMERCIAL DISTRICT) TO R-3
(HIGH DENSITY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT)
UNDER THE ZONING ORDINANCE
6. Draft Mitie:ated Nee:ative Declaration No. 2005-03/Mitie:ation Monitorine:
and Reportine: Proe:ram. General Plan Amendment No. 2005-02: Zone
Chane:e No. 2005-03 - APN 373-071-018
Chairman LaPere opened the Public Hearing at 7: 12 p.m.
City Manager Brady provided a brief overview of the proposed project and requested
Associate Planner Miller review the project with the Commission and answer questions.
Associate Planner Miller provided an overview of the proposed project.
Leonard Leichnitz, Lumos Communities, 30713 Riverside Dr., Lake Elsinore, addressed
the zoning and past issues as they relate to the property. He stated that he read and
agreed with the staff report and Conditions of Approval.
Vice Chairman O'Neal stated that it was a good project which would lead to positive
development in the area.
Commissioner Gonzales noted his concern with the condition of Franklin Street. He
asked if the street would be improved with the proposed project.
Agenda Item No.
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Leonard Leichnitz referenced the City Circulation Plan which detailed the streets in the
vicinity of the proposed project and how they would connect in the future.
Chairman LaPere noted his support for the proposed project and traffic concerns.
There being no further business, Chairman LaPere closed the Public Hearing at 7:20 p.m.
MOVED BY GONZALES, SECONDED BY O'NEAL
AND PASSED BY A VOTE OF 3-0 TO APPROVE
RESOLUTION NO. 2005-76, A RESOLUTION OF
THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA,
RECOMMENDING TO THE CITY COUNCIL
ADOPTION OF MITIGATED NEGATIVE
DECLARATION 2005-03 AND MITIGATION
MONITORING AND REPORTING PROGRAM FOR
THE PROJECT KNOWN AS GENERAL PLAN
AMENDMENT NO. 2005-02 AND ZONE CHANGE
NO. 2005-03 LOCATED AT APN 373-071-018.
MOVED BY O'NEAL, SECONDED BY GONZALES
AND PASSED BY A VOTE OF 3-0 TO APPROVE
RESOLUTION NO. 2005-77, A RESOLUTION OF
THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA,
RECOMMENDING TO THE CITY COUNCIL OF
THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE APPROVAL OF
GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT NO. 2005-02
AMENDING THE LAND USE DESIGNATION OF
THE PARCELS IDENTIFIED AS ASSESSOR
PARCEL NUMBER 373-071-013 FROM GENERAL
COMMERCIAL (GC) TO MEDIUM HIGH DENSITY
(MHD) RESIDENTIAL
MOVED BY GONZALES, SECONDED BY O'NEAL
AND PASSED BY A VOTE OF 3-0 TO APPROVE
RESOLUTION NO. 2005-78, A RESOLUTION OF
THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA,
RECOMMENDING TO THE CITY COUNCIL OF
THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE APPROVAL OF
ZONE CHANGE NO. 2005-03 CHANGING THE
ZONING DESIGNA TION OF THE P ARCEL(S)
Agenda Item No.
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SPECIFICALL Y DESCRIBED AS ASSESSOR
PARCEL NUMBER 373-071-018 FROM (C-2)
GENERAL COMMERCIAL TO (R-3) HIGH
DENSITY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT UNDER THE
ZONING ORDINANCE
7. Draft Mitie:ated Nee:ative Declaration No. 2005-04. General Plan Amendment
No. 2004-10: Tentative Parcel Map (For Condominium Purposes) No. 32674.
Conditional Use Permit No. 2004-27. and Residential Desie:n Review No.
2004-11- APN 379-315-033
Chairman LaPere opened the Public Hearing at 7:22 p.m.
City Manager Brady provided a brief overview of the proposed project and requested
Associate Planner Miller review the project with the Commission and answer questions.
Associate Planner Miller provided an overview of the proposed project. She noted the
problem with illegal residents and high crime in the area. She indicated that the proposed
project was a gated community. She noted that the project had been conditioned to have
a Right-in/Right-out access only and a deceleration/acceleration lane for an added safety
measure.
Teddy Hanui, 4995 Murphy Canyon Rd. #402, San Diego, stated that he read and
understood the report. He addressed condition No. 56 on page 33 of 60 and stated that a
median in the street at the project location would be unreasonable since that median
would not stretch the length of Riverside Drive. He indicated that the plans were
prepared with a striping and signal plan and that he was opposed to constructing a
median.
Engineering Manager Moehling stated that Traffic Engineer Mackey was adamant that a
barrier median needed to be placed to avoid left turn access. He also noted that the
applicant would be responsible for a cash in lieu fee for future installation of the median.
Chairman LaPere clarified that a four foot median would be acceptable on Riverside
Drive.
Engineering Manager Moehling confirmed.
Teddy Hanui noted his objection to the median because it would create emergency access
issues. He further noted that he was unclear as to how the median would be constructed
on the remaining portion of Riverside Drive.
Agenda Item No.
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Engineering Manager Moehling stated that eventually the entire street would have a 14
foot barrier median as per the General Plan and the Circulation Element.
Commissioner Gonzales noted his support for the project and clarified as to where the U-
Turn would be in the median.
Teddy Hanui stated that currently a left turn can be made out of the project and they
would persevere with CalTrans to create a left turn access.
Commissioner O'Neal concurred with staffs recommendation.
Chairman LaPere addressed Condition No. 56.
City Manager Brady stated that the City Traffic Engineer Mackey recommended the
median and that recommendation would go before the City Council.
Chairman LaPere concurred with staffs recommendation and noted his support for the
project.
Engineering Manager Moehling addressed Condition No. 56 and stated that the applicant
would be responsible to pay cash in lieu for future improvements of the median
installation.
There being no further business, Chairman LaPere closed the Public Hearing at 7:35 p.m.
MOVED BY GONZALES, SECONDED BY O'NEAL
AND PASSED BY A VOTE OF 3-0 TO APPROVE
AMENDED RESOLUTION NO. 2005-79, A
RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION
OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA,
RECOMMENDING TO THE CITY COUNCIL
ADOPTION OF MITIGATED NEGATIVE
DECLARATION 2005-04 FOR THE PROJECT
KNOWN AS GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT NO.
2004-10; TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP (FOR
CONDOMIMIUM PURPOSES) MAP NO. 32674;
RESIDENTIAL DESIGN REVIEW NO. 2004-11; AND
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 2004-27
LOCATED AT 32281 RIVERSIDE DRIVE - APN 379-
315-033.
MOVED BY GONZALES, SECONDED BY O'NEAL
AND PASSED BY A VOTE OF 3-0 TO APPROVE
Agenda Item No.
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AMENDED RESOLUTION NO. 2005-80, A
RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION
OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA,
RECOMMENDING TO THE CITY COUNCIL OF
THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE APPROVAL OF
GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT NO. 2004-10
AMENDING THE LAND USE DESIGNATION OF
THE PARCEL IDENTIFIED AS ASSESSOR PARCEL
NUMBER 379-315-033
MOVED BY GONZALES, SECONDED BY O'NEAL
AND PASSED BY A VOTE OF 3-0 TO APPROVE
AMENDED RESOLUTION NO. 2005-81, A
RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION
OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA,
RECOMMENDING CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL OF
TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP (FOR CONDOMINIUM
PURPOSES) NO. 32674 FOR THE "RIVERLAKE
VILLAS" LOCATED AT 32281 RIVERSIDE DRIVE-
APN 379-315-033)
MOVED BY GONZALES, SECONDED BY O'NEAL
AND PASSED BY A VOTE OF 3-0 TO APPROVE
AMENDED RESOLUTION NO. 2005-82, A
RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION
OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA,
RECOMMENDING CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL OF
RESIDENTIAL DESIGN REVIEW NO. 2004-11 FOR
THE DESIGN, CONSTRUCTION AND
ESTABLISHMENT OF THE "RIVERLAKE VILLAS"
LOCATED AT 32281 RIVERSIDE DRIVE - APN 379-
315-033
MOVED BY GONZALES, SECONDED BY O'NEAL
AND PASSED BY A VOTE OF 3-0 TO APPROVE
AMENDED RESOLUTION NO. 2005-83, A
RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION
OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA,
APPROVING CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO.
2004-27 FOR THE ESTABLISHMENT OF THE
"RIVERLAKE VILLAS", LOCATED AT 32281
RIVERSIDE DRIVE - APN 379-315-033
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8. EZ Lube at Lake Elsinore Market Place: Commercial Desil!n Review No.
2005-04 andConditional Use Permit No. 2005-04 on Assessor Parcel
Number(s) 377-040-027
Chairman LaPere opened the Public Hearing at 7:38 p.m.
City Manager Brady provided a brief overview of the proposed project and requested
Associate Planner Reiner review the project with the Commission and answer questions.
Associate Planner Reiner provided an overview of the proposed project. She further
noted prior approval of the general layout for the type of use proposed. She described the
change in the layout of the project.
B.P. Hanrath, W.D. Partners, 2582 Kelvin, Irvine, thanked staff for their cooperation. He
stated that he read and agreed with the Conditions of Approval
Vice Chairman O'Neal concurred with staffs recommendation and stated it was a good
project.
Commissioner Gonzales stated he had no problem with the project.
Chairman LaPere concurred with staffs recommendation.
There being no further business, Chairman LaPere closed the Public Hearing at 7:48 p.m.
MOVED BY GONZALES, SECONDED BY O'NEAL
AND PASSED BY A VOTE OF 3-0 TO APPROVE
RESOLUTION NO. 2005-84, A RESOLUTION OF
THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA,
RECOMMENDING TO THE CITY COUNCIL OF
THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE APPROVAL OF
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 2005-04 FOR
THE ESTABLISHMENT OF AN "EXPRESS
AUTOMOTIVE LUBRICATION FACILITY"
LOCATED ON PAD "T" OF THE LAKE ELSINORE
MARKET PLACE, ASSESSOR PARCEL NO. 377-
040-027 ON TPM NO. 23269
MOVED BY GONZALES, SECONDED BY O'NEAL
AND PASSED BY A VOTE OF 3-0 TO APPROVE
RESOLUTION NO. 2005-85, A RESOLUTION OF
THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF
Agenda Item No.
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LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA,
RECOMMENDING TO THE CITY COUNCIL OF
THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE APPROVAL OF
COMMERCIAL DESIGN REVIEW NO. 2005-04 TO
ALLOW FOR THE DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT
OF A 1,854 SQUARE FOOT EXPRESS
AUTOMOTIVE LUBRICATION FACILITY
LOCATED ON PAD "T" OF THE LAKE ELSINORE
MARKET PLACE, ASSESSOR PARCEL NO. 377-
040-027 ON TPM NO. 23269.
9. Residential Desie:n Review No. 2004-14. located at the northwest corner of
Mountain Avenue and Raveta Lane. approximately ~ mile northwest of the
intersection of Mountain Street and Lake Street
Chairman LaPere opened the Public Hearing at 7:45 p.m.
City Manager Brady provided a brief overview of the project and requested Associate
Planner Coury review the project with the Commission and answer questions.
Associate Planner Coury provided an overview of the proposed project. He noted the
location and the design of the project.
Sam Rizk, 1530 San Ponte Rd., Corona, stated that he read and agreed with the staff
report and Conditions of Approval.
Associate Planner Coury noted that Condition No. 55 needed to be added to the project to
read, "Provide a reciprocal access easement that will serve as vehicular and utility
access to all parcels created to the satisfaction of the City Engineer; easement shall be
recorded as part of the final map approval process (Amended at the July 5, 2005
Planning Commission Meeting). "
Vice Chairman O'Neal noted his support for the project.
Commissioner Gonzales noted his support for the project.
Chairman LaPere thanked the applicant and noted his support for the project.
There being no further business, Chairman LaPere closed the Public Hearing at 7:50 p.m.
MOVED BY GONZALES, SECONDED BY O'NEAL
AND PASSED BY A VOTE OF 3-0 TO APPROVE
RESOLUTION NO. 2005-86, A RESOLUTION OF
Agenda Item No.
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THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA,
RECOMMENDING TO THE CITY COUNCIL
APPROVAL OF RESIDENTIAL DESIGN REVIEW
NO. 2004-14 LOCATED IN TENTATIVE PARCEL
MAP NO(s) 31357 AND 31685.
BUSINESS ITEMS
None
INFORMATIONAL
. City Manager Brady noted that there was a Study Session on Thursday, July
ih at the Cultural Center at 3 :00 p.m.
STAFF COMMENTS
City Manager Brady commented on the followin~:
. Stated that Jenifer would be leaving the staff and that she had done a good job.
Planning Manager Preisendanz commented on the following:
. Thanked staff for their hard work;
. Stated his appreciation for the Commission;
. Stated his appreciation for City Manager Brady.
PLANNING COMMISSIONER COMMENTS
Vice Chairman O'Neal commented on the following:
. Apologized for being tardy for the meeting;
. Stated that he would not vote for a gate or a public street on the Ulla Lane project.
Commissioner Gonzales commented on the following:
. Stated that he would hate to see the trees on Ulla Lane lost;
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. Stated that he wanted to know what would be going into the project he voted
against before he would vote to approve it.
Chairman O'Neal stated that the problem with denying the zone change was that it made
it difficult for a developer to invest in a new project. He noted that the Commissioner
could address the proposed project at design review after the zone change was granted.
. Thanked the City for the 4th of July Fireworks display;
. Wished Jenifer good luck.
Chairman LaPere commented on the following:
. Wished Jenifer good luck;
. Thanked staff for their efforts.
ADJOURNMENT
THERE BEING NO FURTHER BUSINESS, C AIRMAN LAPERE
ADJOURNED THE MEETING AT 7:55 PM N
Ron LaPere, Chairman
Respectfully Submitted,
r.fiu~ c. ~
Lisa C. Alexen
Office Specialist III
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MINUTES
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PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
183 NORTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CA 92530
TUESDAY, JULY 19, 2005
CALL TO ORDER:
Chairman LaPere called the Regular Planning Commission Meeting to order at 6:05 PM.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE:
Commissioner Larimer led the Pledge Of Allegiance.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: COMMISSIONERS:
LAPERE, O'NEAL, GONZALES,
LARIMER
ABSENT:
COMMISSIONERS:
Also present were: City Manager Brady, Planning Manager Preisendanz, Deputy City
Attorney Miles, Engineering Manager Moehling, Associate Planner Coury, and Office
Specialist Alexen.
PUBLIC COMMENTS (Non-Af!endized items)
Donna Franson, 7 Villa Valtelena, Lake Elsinore Magazine, stated that the meeting of the
Tuscany Hills Lake Elsinore Citizens Committee would have Mr. Morrison of EVMWD
and Officer Beth DeCou of the Lake Elsinore Police Dept. as guest speakers.
CONSENT CALENDAR
1. Minutes
a. Regular Planning Commission Minutes of June 21, 2005;
b. Regular Planning Commission Minutes of July 5, 2005;
Vice Chairman O'Neal amended page 4 of 13 in Item No. 1a. to replace the words
needed to with should.
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Commissioner Larimer stated that she would abstain from voting to approve the Consent
Calendar due to her absence at the previous two meetings.
MOVED BY O'NEAL, SECONDED BY GONZALES
AND PASSED BY A VOTE OF 3-0, WITH LARIMER
ABSTAINING TO APPROVE THE CONSENT
CALENDAR AS AMENDED.
Chairman LaPere requested that all cell phones were turned of during the meeting.
PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS
2. Cotta1!:e Lane Specific Plan
Chairman LaPere opened the Public Hearing at 6: 10 p.m.
City Manager Brady provided a brief overview of the item and requested Associate
Planner Coury review it with the Commission and answer questions.
Associate Planner Coury noted that the item had been before the Planning Commission
on June 21, 2005. He further noted the concerns local neighborhood residents had with
access and circulation as it related to the proposed project. He noted that staff had met
with the applicant who was proposing a gated system to address those issues. He stated
that staff supported the project with unrestricted access, however staff did not support the
gated system proposed by the applicant.
Dave Leonard, Wesco Homes, described the gate system functions and operation. He
indicated that the gate would be triggered by a sensor on the street to allow for traffic to
exit the tract and would allow access of emergency vehicles with the use of a knox box.
He stated that Wesco Homes would support the project with or without the gate, and that
they would take direction from the Commission. He requested modification to Condition
No.'s 60 and 61 ifthe gate was to be installed due to on-site improvements. He noted the
resident's opposition to the park and the proposed modifications to the area if the park
was eliminated from the project. He noted that the average lot size without the park
would be 6,371 square feet and the Tiller Lane lots were 6,000 square feet as per R-l
requirements. He stated that the current average lot size for the project was 5,441 square
feet. He requested that Condition No. 74 on page 34 of 105 be amended to clarify the
language of the filtration basin design. He stated that he had no further question and
understood and accepted the staff report and Conditions of Approval with the requested
amendments.
Chairman LaPere requested that the public comments were limited to three minutes.
Agenda Item No.
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Chris Hyland, Wavecrest St., stated her opposition to the project. She stated that the map
presented by the builder was fictitious. She described the surrounding area of the project
and the potential traffic issues.
Pat Kilroy, 3940 Ulla Ln., Lake Elsinore City employee, stated that Ulla Lane was a
private street, but Wavecrest and Tiller Ln. were public streets. He indicated that he did
not fully understand the operation of the proposed gate; however he supported the egress
gate, private park and Ulla Ln. remaining a private street.
Mary Lewis, 3820 Ulla Ln., noted that staff had not met with the residents since the last
Planning Commission Meeting. She stated that the issues mentioned at that meeting were
not addressed. She stated her opposition to the widening ofUlla Ln. She indicated that
the developer brought revised plans to the McDorman home. She detailed her concerns
with the project and traffic impacts. She requested a meeting with the developer, city
staff and residents and that the item was continued until a later date.
Mark McDorman, 3740 Ulla Ln., noted his opposition to the project. He noted his desire
to meet with staff to address the resident's concerns. He indicated that the new high
school backs up to his backyard fence.
Vice Chairman O'Neal stated that he received the letters from Ms. Lewis and The Law
Offices of Wood and Delgado. He indicated that he would not vote for the proposed
gate. He addressed the dedication ofUlla Lane and concurred with the City Attorney's
recommendation. He noted his support for the development.
Commissioner Gonzales stated that he visited the street and spoke with staff about the
project. He indicated that he would like the park to remain in the proposed location. He
addressed traffic and the seismic setback zone.
Commissioner Larimer stated that she did not attend the previous meeting; however she
listened to the tape to assist in familiarizing herself with the project and the concerns of
the residents. She requested confirmation from Associate Planner Coury that staffhad
accommodated the residents.
Associate Planner Coury confirmed.
Commissioner Larimer identified the residents who voiced their concerns. She indicated
that she was in favor of the park, but she was not sure if the gate was a good idea. She
stated that everybody was right from their own perspective, but they had to work
together. She addressed property owner's rights to develop their property.
Chairman LaPere concurred with Vice Chairman O'Neal as it relates to the gate. He
stated that the park should remain in the plan and that the City should not accept the
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street dedication. He stated his opposition to the egress gate because it pushed traffic in
different directions. He further stated his support of the park because taking it out of the
plan would take it away from the neighborhood kids. He addressed the possibility of a
Neighborhood Watch system to take care of park situations. He noted that the residents
were responsible people who cared about their surroundings; therefore they were apt to
take care of it. He stated that the City may not accept dedication of the street for some
time in the future. He indicated that this project would not be a win-win for everyone,
but any property owner has a right to develop their property. He further indicated that the
Commission intended to accommodate as many people as they could, but some failure to
do that is inevitable. He noted that he was trying to make the best of the present
situation.
Commissioner Gonzales clarified as to the location of the model homes.
Dave Leonard stated that lots 44 through 46 would be the model home lots with access
through Tiller Lane. He reiterated his request for modified conditions.
Chairman LaPere addressed Condition No. 74.
Dave Leonard clarified Condition No. 74 to read In the event that downstream flood
control facilities will not accept increased run off, then the applicant shall provide for
detention of storm water run off greater than the existing unimproved condition. Outlet
of detention facility shall be consistent with volume, direction and character of the
historicflow. (Amended 7/19/2005)
Engineering Manager Moehling confirmed acceptance of the amended condition.
Associate Planner Coury confirmed that the condition would be amended for the City
Council Meeting.
Commissioner Larimer requested that Associate Planner Coury address the concerns
presented by Chris Hyland.
Associate Planner Coury stated that Chris Hyland wanted there to be more discussion
about the manner is which her tract would be affected by the proposed project.
Chris Hyland stated that from the beginning, the attention was focused on Ulla Lane and
not her tract. She expressed her frustration that her tract was not discussed during the
process of the project.
Commissioner Larimer requested confirmation that Chris Hyland's concerns had been
addressed.
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Chris Hyland stated that her concerns were not addressed since the traffic would impact
her tract. She provided an overview of the traffic impact on her tract.
Associate Planner Coury indicated that the applicant had done a traffic assessment to
identify the circulation and access. He stated that staff was confident that the project, as
presented, served the entire area better without a gate system.
There being no further business, Chairman LaPere closed the Public Hearing at 6:45 p.m.
MOVED BY O'NEAL, SECONDED BY
GONZALES AND PASSED BY A VOTE OF 4-0
APPROVING RESOLUTION NO. 2005-87, A
RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING
COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF LAKE
ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA, RECOMMENDING
TO THE CITY COUNCIL ADOPTION OF
FINDINGS OF CONSISTENCY WITH SECTION
6.1.2 OF THE MULTIPLE SPECIES HABITAT
CONSERVATION PLAN (MSHCP) FOR THE
PROJECT KNOWN AS THE COTTAGE LANE
SPECIFIC PLAN.
MOVED BY GONZALES, SECONDED BY O'NEAL
AND PASSED BY A VOTE OF 4-0 APPROVING
RESOLUTION NO. 2005-88, A RESOLUTION OF
THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA,
RECOMMENDING TO THE CITY COUNCIL OF
THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE APPROVAL OF
MITIGATED NEGATIVE DECLARATION NO. 2005-
02.
MOVED BY O'NEAL, SECONDED BY GONZALES
AND PASSED BY A VOTE OF 4-0 APPROVING
RESOLUTION NO. 2005-89, A RESOLUTION OF
THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA,
RECOMMENDING TO THE CITY COUNCIL OF
THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE APPROVAL OF
SPECIFIC PLAN NO. 2004-01 CHANGING THE
ZONING DESIGNATION OF THE PROPERTY
LOCATED NORTHWEST OF RIVERSIDE AVENUE,
SOUTHEAST OF MACHADO STREET AND NORTH
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OF GRAND AVENUE, BETWEEN ULLA AND
TILLER LANES, FROM R-l SINGLE FAMILY
RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT AND R-2 MEDIUM
DENSITY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT TO THE
COTTAGE LANE SPECIFIC PLAN UNDER THE
ZONING ORDINANCE.
MOVED BY GONZALES, SECONDED BY O'NEAL
AND PASSED BY A VOTE OF 4-0 APPROVING
RESOLUTION NO. 2005-90, A RESOLUTION OF
THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA,
RECOMMENDING TO THE CITY COUNCIL OF
THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE APPROVAL OF
TENTATIVE TRACT MAP NO. 32996 WHICH
SUBDIVIDES 12.04 ACRES OF THE COTTAGE
LANE SPECIFIC PLAN AREA INTO 48
RESIDENTIAL LOTS.
MOVED BY GONZALES, SECONDED BY
LARIMER AND PASSED BY A VOTE OF 4-0
APPROVING RESOLUTION NO. 2005-91, A
RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION
OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA,
RECOMMENDING TO THE CITY COUNCIL OF
THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE APPROVAL OF
RESIDENTIAL DESIGN REVIEW NO. 2005-06 FOR
THE COTTAGE LANE SPECIFIC PLAN
3. Conditional Use Permit No. 2005-07: and Commercial Deshm Review No.
2005-05 - Bank of America (Canvon Hills Market Place).
Chairman LaPere opened the Public Hearing at 6:47 p.m.
City Manager Brady provided a brief overview of the item and requested Associate
Planner Coury review it with the Commission and answer questions.
Associate Planner Coury provided an overview of the project location of the Bank of
American building in the Canyon Hills Marketplace. He noted that the applicant had
responded to staffs concerns with the location of the project and the architectural design
and agreed to enhance the exterior architectural features with stonework and awnings.
Agenda Item No.
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Noli Calingo, Gensler Architects, 4675 MacArthur Ct., Ste. 350, Newport Beach, stated
that he had worked with staff in order to address their concerns. He indicated that he
followed staffs recommendation regarding the additional enhancements. He noted that
he understood and agreed with the staff report and conditions of approval as presented.
Commissioner Gonzales asked if the bank was a drive-thru with inside banking.
Noli Calingo confirmed.
Vice Chairman O'Neal concurred with staffs recommendation.
Commissioner Larimer stated that it was beautiful but she wished there was a teller in the
drive-thru.
Chairman LaPere concurred with staffs recommendation.
There being no further business, Chairman LaPere closed the public hearing at 6:52 pm.
MOVED BY GONZALES, SECONDED BY
LARIMER AND PASSED BY A VOTE OF 4-0
APPROVING RESOLUTION NO. 2005-92, A
RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION
OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA,
APPROVING CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO.
2005-07 FOR THE ESTABLISHMENT OF A "DRIVE-
THROUGH FACILITY" LOCATED ON PAD "12"
OF PLANNING AREA 4, OF THE CANYON HILLS
MARKET PLACE.
MOVED BY GONZALES, SECONDED BY
LARIMER AND PASSED BY A VOTE OF 4-0
APPROVING RESOLUTION NO. 2005-93, A
RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION
OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA,
RECOMMENDING CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL OF
COMMERCIAL DESIGN REVIEW NO. 2005-05, FOR
A "DRIVE-THROUGH FACILITY" LOCATED ON
PAD "12" OF PLANNING AREA 4, OF THE
CANYON HILLS MARKET PLACE
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4. Industrial Desie:n Review No. 2004-08 for the proiect known as "Alesco Skv
Park Business Park".
Chairman LaPere opened the Public Hearing at 6:55 p.m.
City Manager Brady provided a brief overview of the item and requested Planning
Manager Preisendanz review it with the Commission and answer questions. He indicated
that staff received a letter via faxed and that it was presented to the Commission for
reVIew.
Planning Manager Preisendanz indicated that there were three buildings at Corydon in the
Eastlake Specific Plan. He provided an overview of the architectural design and noted
staffs support for the project.
Alan Young, Alesco Development, 21 021 Ventura Blvd, Woodland Hills, noted his
appreciation of staff and the community; and he was looking forward to future
development in the City. He requested a modification to Condition No. 56.
Planning Manager Preisendanz noted the modification to Condition No. 56 to read,
Applicant shall protect all downstream properties from damages caused by alteration of
the drainage patterns, i.e., concentrations or diversions offlow. Protection shall be
provided by constructing adequate drainage facilities including enlarging existing
facilities and/or by securing a drainage easement. A drainage study prepared by a civil
engineer shall be provided, identifY existing and proposed on-site and off-site runoff
water quantities and propose public and/or private drainage facilities. Drainage flows
and facilities shall be shown on the grading plan. (Amended Planning Commission
Meeting 7/19/2005)
He further addressed Condition No. 59 and eliminated the last sentence from the
condition for modification.
Alan Young stated that he had agreed with the staff report and Conditions of Approval.
Commissioner Gonzales addressed the letter from Mr. Dejong and how the project
affected his property.
City Manager Brady stated that the letter addressed the alignment of Bundy Canyon Rd.
and the connection into the East Lake Specific Plan. He indicated that the City had been
working with Riverside County to determine the alignment; however the County was
noncommittal about the location of the street. He provided a brief explanation of the
issues surrounding the location of the street and the alignment as it affected the Dejong
property. He referenced a letter to Riverside County Transportation and Land
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Management Agency addressing the alignment of Bundy Canyon Rd, written by then
City Engineer Seumalo. He stated that if the alignment went through the Dejong
property, it would eliminate any development on the property referenced in this project.
Commissioner Gonzales clarified the location of the alignment.
City Manager Brady stated that if they bring the street through the property at a point that
staff is not recommending, it would not be in alignment and it would be crossing the
Dejong property. He indicated that the City would be responsible for purchasing the
Dejong property if the road was not in alignment, thereby crossing the Dejong property.
He indicated that a recommendation was brought to the County with the recommendation
of an alignment designed that would require some property to be acquired as part of this
project. Property owners who want to develop the property need the City to recommend
where the connection from the East Lake Specific Plan to Bundy Canyon would be,
which is near Cereal.
Vice Chairman O'Neal stated that it was his understanding that Mr. Dejong would not
mind selling his property for that street alignment. He stated his support for the design of
the project. He noted his concern with the County's lack of input to solve this problem.
He proposed continuing the item until all agencies involved could meet and resolve the
issues surrounding the project.
Commissioner Larimer stated her support for the design.
Chairman LaPere noted his concern with the alignment of Bundy Canyon and how it
relates to costs and sale of land in order to make the connection at Cereal St. He noted
his support for the project. He further noted his concern with Mr. Dejong's desire to
work with the City to sell his property to the City in order to make the connection at
Cereal St. He stated that it could affect the applicant as well as other property owners.
He suggested continuing the item until all agencies could meet in order to address the
issues regarding the proposed alignment and connection.
Vice Chairman O'Neal noted that the decision to delay was difficult to make, however
there were long term benefits to establishing the answers prior to approval of the project.
Alan Young clarified that if the alignment was with Cereal St, it would not require
property from Mr. Dejong. He eXplained why the alignment with Cereal St. was
preferable to him. He noted that it would be more optimal from a traffic perspective. He
noted that Lumos Communities also preferred alignment with Cereal St. He stated that
the proposed project was consistent with the City's best interest. He indicated that there
would be a benefit to Mr. Dejong, because the alignment would offer his property
extensive frontage on the future Bundy Canyon Rd.
Agenda Item No.
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Vice Chairman O'Neal addressed the potential for litigation with the County at the last
minute, as with the Laing Homes project.
Alan Young indicated that the County had been completely non-committal in the
numerous meetings they have attended to address this project. He reiterated that the
County was solicited, but did not take action on this project so the City went forward
with what would be best for all parties involved.
Planning Manager Preisendanz stated that Traffic Engineer Mackey attended several
meetings with the County. He further indicated that there was support expressed by the
County at some meeting and non-support at other meetings. He noted that staff
supported the alignment with Cereal St. He reference the letter sent to the County by
then Engineering Manager Seumalo requesting their feedback, with no response from the
County. He stated that staff supported the alignment location as presented and in
Specific Plan Amendment No.8. He noted other projects which would be positively
impacted by the proposed alignment.
Chairman LaPere stated that the County may feel pressured to commit to a decision if the
project was continued. He noted that delaying the project due to the County's hesitation
may encourage them to decide on the alignment.
Alan Young stated that if the project were approved, it would encourage the County to
make a decision.
Chairman LaPere stated that it would cause the opposite.
Vice Chairman O'Neal concurred with Mr. Young that an approval may push the County
to make a decision. He suggested that the parties involved meet over the course of a
couple of weeks to further discuss it, however if the consensus was that time would be
wasted by a continuance, he would support the project moving forward.
Alan Young concurred.
City Manager Brady clarified that the County did not comment on the project.
Planning Manager Preisendanz confirmed that the County did not respond. He noted the
several meetings with the County in which they flipped their support and non-support.
There was further discussion regarding the factors involved with the decision to approve
or delay the project to a future date.
Agenda Item No.
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City Manager Brady stated that the County may sue the City; however the staff did their
due diligence in working with the County. He indicated that the County did not have the
right to dictate the City's land uses.
Planning Manager Preisendanz indicated that two weeks would not change the status of
the County's lack of response to the proposed alignment.
Chairman LaPere asked City Manager Brady ifhe believed that the County would
respond in the next two weeks.
City Manager Brady stated that since the project would move forward to the City
Council, it would be unfair to the applicant to delay the project the additional time. He
noted that the City had the right to develop their properties without the County's
permission.
Vice Chairman O'Neal concurred with City Manager Brady. He reiterated that he had
suggested a two week delay in order to assist in solving the problem with the County.
Alan Young provided a brief history of the inception of the project from December, 2004.
He stated that meetings with the County have delayed the project up until the present
time and he was concerned that the County would delay it further if they were given more
time to respond.
Chairman LaPere clarified that the applicant had been meeting with the County for this
project since December.
Alan Young confirmed.
Chairman LaPere clarified if it was appropriate to approve the project pending a response
from the County.
City Attorney Miles confirmed that it would be appropriate and recommended that the
Commissioners entertain approval of the project in accordance with staffs
recommendation, with direction to see what could be accomplished. He stated that the
time between this meeting and the next City Council meeting should be sufficient time to
allow for a response from the County.
There being no further business, Chairman LaPere closed the public hearing at 7:25 p.m.
MOVED BY GONZALES, SECONDED BY
LARIMER AND PASSED BY A VOTE OF 4-
o APPROVING RESOLUTION NO. 2005-94,
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A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING
COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF LAKE
ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA,
RECOMMENDING TO THE CITY
COUNCIL ADOPTION OF FINDINGS OF
CONSISTENCY WITH SECTION 6.1.2 OF
THE MULTIPLE SPECIES HABITAT
CONSERVATION PLAN (MSHCP) FOR
THE PROJECT KNOWN AS "ALESCO
SKY PARK BUSINESS PARK".
MOVED BY GONZALES, SECONDED BY
LARIMER AND PASSED BY A VOTE OF 4-0
APPROVING RESOLUTION NO. 2005-95, A
RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION
OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA,
RECOMMENDING TO THE CITY COUNCIL OF
THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE APPROVAL OF
INDUSTRIAL DESIGN REVIEW NO. 2004-08 FOR
AN INDUSTRIAL BUSINESS PARK LOCATED AT
APN 370-050-013.
Chairman LaPere clarified that the City would meet with the County to address the issues
with the alignment between now and the next City Council Meeting.
City Manager Brady confirmed and noted that the project may not go to the next City
Council Meeting, which would allow for more time to meet with the County, which
would allow for flexibility.
BUSINESS ITEMS
None
INFORMA TIONAL
· City Manager Brady noted that there was an EDC luncheon on Thursday, July
21 st at the Diamond Club.
STAFF COMMENTS
Planning Manager Preisendanz commented on the following:
· Stated that the new Senior Planner, Matthew Harris would begin his new position
with the City on Thursday;
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· Stated that the Assistant Planner interviews were under way;
· Stated that the Community Development Technician would begin soon.
PLANNING COMMISSIONER COMMENTS
Vice Chairman O'Neal commented on the following:
· Stated that he would like to see the sign program reviewed and revised
· Requested clarification as to which projects came before the Planning
Commission for approval
Planning Manager Preisendanz stated that it was the City's policy that projects already
approved at a specific location would be approved at another location over-the-counter if
those plans had prior architectural approval of the Planning Commission.
Vice Chairman O'Neal addressed trees on a parcel that were removed.
City Manager Brady noted the City's awareness of tree preservation. There was
discussion regarding tree preservation and the right of a property owner to remove the
trees on their property.
Commissioner Larimer commented on the following:
· Concurred with Vice Chairman O'Neal's comment;
· Stated that Cottage Lane was a difficult decision but the approval benefited the
entire community;
Commissioner Gonzales commented on the following:
· Noted his desire to keep the trees in tact on Tiller and Ulla Lanes
Chairman LaPere commented on the following:
· Thanked staff for their efforts;
· Stated that the decision on Ulla Lane was a difficult one to make.
ADJOURNMENT
THERE BEING NO FURTHER BUSINESS, CHAIRMAN LAPERE
ADJOURNED THE MEETING AT 7:35 PM ON JULY 19, 2005.
Agenda Item No.
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Respectfully Submitted,
~dtf!t'/ C. tUrfY'F(
Lisa C. Alexen
Office Specialist III
ATTEST:
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MINUTES
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
183 NORTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CA 92530
TUESDAY, AUGUST 2, 2005
OATH OF OFFICE
Interim City Clerk Ray administered the Oath of Office to Commissioner Fred Francia.
CALL TO ORDER:
Chairman LaPere called the Regular Planning Commission Meeting to order at 6:00 PM.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE:
Commissioner Francia led the Pledge Of Allegiance.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: COMMISSIONERS:
LAPERE, O'NEAL, GONZALES,
FRANCIA, LARIMER
ABSENT:
COMMISSIONERS:
Also present were: City Manager Brady, Planning Manager Preisendanz, Deputy City
Attorney Miles, Engineering Manager Moehling, Associate Planner Coury, Associate
Planner Resendiz and Office Specialist Alexen.
PUBLIC COMMENTS (Non-Ae:endized items)
NONE
CONSENT CALENDAR
Chairman LaPere pulled Item No.4 from the Consent Calendar.
Commissioner Francia pulled Item No.2 from the Consent Calendar.
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1. Minutes
a. Regular Planning Commission Minutes of July 19,2005;
3. Minor Deshm Review for two (2) Sine:le-Familv Residences located at 16766
and 16772 Jov Avenue. Assessor Parcel Number(s) 379-191-007 & 008.
MOVED BY O'NEAL, SECONDED BY LARIMER
AND PASSED BY A VOTE OF 5-0, TO APPROVE
THE BALANCE OF THE CONSENT CALENDAR.
2. Minor Desie:n Review for a Sine:le-Familv Residence located at 403 Pottery
Street. Assessor Parcel Number 374-052-019.
City Manager Brady provided a brief overview of the proposed project and requested
Associate Planner Resendiz review the project with the Commission and answer
questions.
Associate Planner Resendiz indicated that the project was a manufactured home located
in the historic overlay district. He noted the craftsman style architecture and added
amenities to the dwelling. He noted that the applicant had worked well with staff to
exceed to the requirements and conditions of the planning staff.
Commissioner Francia addressed the projects conformance to the historic overlay district
and requested clarification as to the design of the garage.
Associate Planner Resendiz stated that all materials used on the primary building will be
used on the garage, so that the garage is also in compliance with the historic overlay
district design standards
Commissioner O'Neal had no comment.
Commissioner Gonzales had no comment.
Commissioner Larimer asked if the historic district was regulated by an association. She
also asked what was being done to improve the appearance of the historic overlay district.
City Manager Brady provided an overview of the downtown historic overlay district. He
indicated that there was not a home owner's association in that district, however there
were specific design guidelines and requirements associated with that district and in the
General Plan.
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Chairman LaPere confirmed that the garage would match the design of the home. He
stated his support of the project design.
Associate Planner Resendiz noted that the applicant confirmed that the garage would
match the design of the home; however it was not reflected on the elevations. He further
noted that it was a Condition of Approval, which the applicant agreed to.
MOVED BY GONZALES, SECONDED BY
LARIMER AND PASSED BY A VOTE OF 5-0, TO
APPROVE RESOLUTION NO. 2005-96, A
RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION
OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA,
APPROVING MINOR DESIGN REVIEW FOR A
SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE LOCATED AT 403
POTTERY STREET - APN 374-072-019.
4. Minor Desie:n Review for a Sine:le-Familv Residence located at 110 Mannine:
Street. Assessor Parcel Number(s) 375-084-021. 022 and 023.
City Manager Brady provided a brief overview of the proposed project and requested
Associate Planner Resendiz review the project with the Commission and answer
questions.
Associate Planner Resendiz provided an overview of the project location and design. He
addressed documentation provided by Elsinore Water District indicating sufficient water
service and a fire hydrant on the comer of the subject property. He noted that the
applicant attempted to obtain additional documentation from EWD indicating water
pressure, but EWD did not respond to the request.
Chairman LaPere addressed the letters from EWD on pages 23 and 23 of23. He clarified
as to whether there was a contradiction in terms stated in the letters.
Associate Planner Resendiz confirmed contact with EWD to address the contradiction.
He stated that EWD responded to the request for clarification with the letter shown on
page 22 of23 and later with page 23 of23. He further noted that neither letter addressed
the issue of water pressure for the project. He stated that the applicant was aware that the
Commission would require additional verification of water pressure.
City Manager Brady stated that each letter addressed separate issues. Page 22 of 23
confirmed that domestic water service was adequate and page 23 of 23 confirmed fire
flow.
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Planning Manager Preisendanz stated that page 22 of 23 indicated that there was a
hydrant with 500 feet of the home. He noted that the letter on page 23 of 23 was the first
document EWD provided and staff requested the document on page 22 of 23 as
clarification.
Vice Chairman O'Neal stated that the verbiage on page 22 of23, paragraph I should be
changed to read "Minimum fire flow is 500 GPM..."
Chairman LaPere addressed the fire flow statement and its importance to the service area.
Planning Manager Preisendanz noted that the environmental review that was done
addressed and confirmed full water service as per CEQA.
Deputy City Attorney Miles stated that the letters on pages 22 and 23 of 23 were intended
as traditional will-serve. He noted that the statement of fire flow pressure for a two hour
duration was associated with a fire flow test conducted by the fire department which was
absent from the record. He further noted that, based on the information provided, the fire
flow for the subject property was neither confirmed nor denied.
There was further discussion regarding water pressure in Country Club Heights.
City Manager Brady clarified if the Commission wanted proof or a guarantee of water
pressure and duration prior to issuance of a building permit.
Planning Manager Preisendanz stated that all projects were sent to Riverside County Fire
Department for review and they provided comments and input.
Chairman LaPere asked if a condition of approval could be added to clarify if the water
met the requirement of 500 GPM for two-hour duration.
Commissioner Francia clarified that Fire Department reviewed the condition.
Planning Manager Preisendanz stated that the Fire Department had reviewed and
commented on the project; however they did not address the water pressure.
Chairman LaPere requested a motion to require the condition for a test to ensure
minimum fire flow.
Deputy City Attorney Miles addressed Condition No. 36 on page 11 of23 to read,
"Provide fire protection facilities and meet minimum fire flow or alternative means as
required by Riverside County Fire standards."
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Planning Manager Preisendanz emphasized that part of CEQA clearance was
confirmation that adequate water service was provided to the development. He stated
that clearance included issues with fire safety.
MOVED BY GONZALES, SECONDED BY FRANCIA
AND PASSED BY A VOTE OF 5-0, TO APPROVE
RESOLUTION NO. 2005-98, A RESOLUTION OF
THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA, APPROVING
MINOR DESIGN REVIEW FOR A SINGLE FAMILY
RESIDENCE LOCATED AT 403 POTTERY STREET
- APN 374-072-019.
PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS
5. Tentative Parcel Map No. 33525 "For Condominium Purposes" and
Industrial Desie:n Review No. I 2005-02 for "J&S Development Business
Park"
Chairman LaPere opened the Public Hearing at 6:29 p.m.
City Manager Brady provided a brief overview of the proposed project and requested
Associate Planner Coury review it with the Commission and answer questions.
Associate Planner Coury provided an overview ofthe proposed project. He indicated that
the project would allow for the subdivision of the property into 10 lots for condominium
purposes of a business park. He noted that the architectural designs were consistent with
the area. He stated that the location of the project was at Minthom and Chaney.
Julius Esqura, J&S Development, 31401 Camino Capistrano, San Juan Capistrano, stated
that he did not read the report and conditions of approval.
Anthony Molina, 19923 Grettand, Cerritos, Ca, stated that he did not read the report or
conditions of approval. He stated that he agreed with the report and conditions of
approval.
Commissioner O'Neal concurred with staffs recommendation of approval. He noted that
it would be a handsome addition to the City.
Commissioner Gonzales stated that it completed the block.
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Commissioner Larimer stated that she was pleased with the project.
Commissioner Francia clarified the modified compact parking spaces were increased in
width by one foot.
Chairman LaPere stated that the project completed the area and it was a job well done.
There being no further business, Chairman LaPere closed the Public Hearing at 6:34 p.m.
MOVED BY LARIMER, SECONDED BY
GONZALES AND PASSED BY A VOTE OF 5-0, TO
APPROVE RESOLUTION NO. 2005-99, A
RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION
OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA,
RECOMMENDING TO THE CITY COUNCIL OF
THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE APPROVAL OF
TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP NO. 33525 "FOR
CONDOMINIUM PURPOSES"
MOVED BY LARIMER, SECONDED BY
GONZALES AND PASSED BY A VOTE OF 5-0, TO
APPROVE RESOLUTION NO. 2005-100, A
RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION
OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA,
RECOMMENDING CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL OF
INDUSTRIAL DESIGN REVIEW NO. 2005-02, TO BE
LOCATED AT THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF
MINTHORN AND CHANEY STREETS FOR A
PROJECT KNOWN AS J&S DEVELOPMENT
BUSINESS PARK
6. Tentative Tract MaD No. 31957
Chairman LaPere opened the Public Hearing at 6:36 p.m.
City Manager Brady provided a brief overview of the proposed project and requested
Associate Planner Coury review it with the Commission and answer questions.
Associate Planner Coury noted that staff requested to continue the item to the August 16th
Planning Commission meeting due to last minute items to address with the applicant. He
further noted that the applicant agreed with the continuance.
Agenda Item No.
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There being no further business, Chairman LaPere closed the Public Hearing at 6:39 p.m.
MOVED BY O'NEAL, SECONDED BY LARIMER
AND PASSED BY A VOTE OF 5-0, TO CONTINUE
TENTATIVE TRACT MAP NO. 31957 TO THE
REGULAR PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
ON AUGUST 16,2005
BUSINESS ITEMS
None
INFORMATIONAL
None
STAFF COMMENTS
Planning Manager Preisendanz commented on the following:
· Stated that Agi apologized for his cell phone ring, it was due to his wife being
in labor.
PLANNING COMMISSIONER COMMENTS
Commissioner Francia commented on the following:
· Stated that he enjoyed the meeting;
. Thanked everyone for the welcome.
Vice Chairman O'Neal commented on the following:
· Welcomed Commissioner Francia to the Planning Commission and stated that
he will make a great Planning Commissioner;
· Requested clarification as to the state law dealing with manufactured homes
and asked if the law could be overridden by a General Plan.
City Manager Brady stated that it was not possible under State Housing, the City was
required to allow manufactured housing if it met the requirements of the residential
development standards.
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Vice Chairman O'Neal indicated that he was approached by a member of the GPAC who
stated that Brian Mooney of Mooney, Jones and Stokes confirmed to the GPAC that the
City could incorporate that restriction into a General Plan.
City Manager Brady stated that he would contact the Consultant regarding the comment.
There was discussion regarding manufactured homes and residential design standards.
. Asked for status of the sign review.
City Manager Brady stated that staff was in the process of working on the sign ordinance
and regulations.
Commissioner Gonzales commented on the following:
. Welcomed Commissioner Francia;
· Asked about the future for Riverside Drive as it relates to CalTrans, Grand Ave.
and future developments.
Engineering Manager Moehling stated that he would look into the proposed
improvements for Riverside Drive.
Planning Manager Preisendanz noted that there was a specific plan in process for a
condominium project, which would require input from CalTrans. He stated that the
zoning was residential and circulation was a main concern.
Commissioner Larimer commented on the following:
· Welcomed Commissioner Francia to the Planning Commission;
· Stated that she was glad to see that SOS signs were removed;
· Apologized for not attending the Citizens Committee and the EDC luncheon.
Chairman LaPere commented on the following:
· Thanked staff for their efforts;
· Asked to bring a discussion to the Planning Commission pertaining to a specific
plan for Country Club Heights to include zoning and construction guidelines.
City Manager Brady noted that the Country Club Heights Committee brought a
recommendation to the City Council which addressed the zoning designation and other
issues in the area. He further noted that would be brought back to the Commission for
further consideration. He stated that copies of the recommendation would be provided to
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the Commission. He stated that the recommendation of the Country Club Heights
Committee was presented to the City Council, who directed staff to bring it through a
formal zone change.
There was discussion as to the most effective way in which to discuss the
recommendation the Country Club Heights Committee presented to the City Council.
ADJOURNMENT
THERE BEING NO FURTHER BUSINESS, CHAIRMAN LAPERE
ADJOURNED mE MEETING AT 6:53 PM ON A~~
Ron LaPere, Chairman
Respectfully Submitted,
0utc C ~/0
Lisa C. Alexen
Office Specialist III
Agenda Item No.
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MINUTES
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
183 NORTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CA 92530
TUESDAY, AUGUST 16, 2005
CALL TO ORDER:
Chairman LaPere called the Regular Planning Commission Meeting to order at 6:02 PM.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE:
Commissioner Larimer led the Pledge Of Allegiance.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: COMMISSIONERS:
LAPERE, O'NEAL, GONZALES,
FRANCIA, LARIMER
ABSENT:
COMMISSIONERS:
Also present were: City Manager Brady, Planning Manager Preisendanz, Deputy City
Attorney Miles, Engineering Manager Moehling, Senior Planner Harris, Associate
Planner Coury, Associate Planner Resendiz, Associate Planner Miller and Office
Specialist Alexen.
PUBLIC COMMENTS (Non-A2endized items)
NONE
CONSENT CALENDAR
Chairman LaPere pulled Item No.2 from the Consent Calendar.
Commissioner Francia pulled Item No.3 from the Consent Calendar.
1. Minutes
a. Regular Planning Commission Minutes of August 2, 2005;
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MOVED BY O'NEAL, SECONDED BY LARIMER
AND PASSED BY A VOTE OF 5-0, TO APPROVE
THE BALANCE OF THE CONSENT CALENDAR.
2. Minor Deshm Review for a sinl!le storv Sinl!le-Familv Residence located at
16611 McPherson Avenue (APN: 378-203-057).
City Manager Brady provided a brief overview of the proposed project and requested
Planning Manager Preisendanz review the project with the Commission and answer
questions.
Planning Manager Preisendanz provided an overview ofthe project location and
architectural design.
Suzanne Rupnow, 16520 McPherson Cl., Lake Elsinore, addressed manufactured homes
in general in Country Club Heights. She requested an explanation of the approval
process for single family residences. She addressed various homes placed in the Country
Club Heights neighborhood.
Vice Chairman O'Neal noted the copy ofa draft letter from Elsinore Water District
(EWD) to the Department of Health Service outlining minimum fire protection standards
not being met by the current water pressure. He stated that the families and homes in
Country Club Heights were not safe from fire. He noted that the water system evaluation
report was prepared in response to the California Department of Health Services inquiry
to address a series of main breaks that occurred in October and November of 1994,
however not to address the concerns of current residents of Country Club Heights. He
further noted that EWD continued to provide "Will Serve" letters when no service is
available. He stated that he would not vote to approve any project in Country Club
Heights until he is satisfied that the homes and families are reasonably safe.
Commissioner Gonzales stated his support for the design; however he had concerns about
the water pressure. He noted that the report from EWD raised doubts that they could
provide adequate service to additional homes in the area. He indicated that more houses
would make it harder to combat fire in that area.
Commissioner Francia thanked staff for providing him with a copy of the staff report to
City Council outlining the recommendation of the Country Club Heights Committee. He
noted that water supply for fire service in the area was extremely limited. He further
noted that additional hydrants were recommended by the Fire Department (CDF). He
stated that he had the same concerns with fire safety and inadequate water pressure from
EWD.
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Commissioner Larimer asked City Manager Brady to address the homeowners concern
about manufactured homes in Country Club Heights.
City Manager Brady stated that manufactured homes were allowed throughout the City
and could not be prohibited. He provided an overview of the requirements for approval.
He addressed the homes that Suzanne Rupnow mentioned and indicated that siding would
be placed on those homes.
Planning Manager Preisendanz indicated that there was a problem with the seepage pit
for homes on Gunnerson. He indicated that the project was on hold due to the water
found in the perk test. He stated that the County of Riverside was addressing the
problem.
Commissioner Larimer stated that she was not happy with the design, but she was not
sure why. She stated that it was lacking something for curb appeal.
Jorge Torres, 22065 Margarth St., Perris, stated that he read and agreed with the report
and conditions of approval and he had nothing to add.
Chairman LaPere indicated that information had come forward recently that raised
concern with the Commission regarding inadequate water pressure for the new
construction as well as the existing structures in the area. He stated that at this time he
was inclined to ask for a continuation of the project due to the issues of water and fire
safety. He noted that the Commission was responsible to consider new projects and the
affects new construction had on the citizens of the City. He indicated to the applicant
that the item may be continued to another time to address and resolve water and fire
safety issues.
Jorge Torres stated that he understood, however when the water report was given to him,
the pressure was low, but fire hydrants and fire water pressure were not an issue.
Chairman LaPere reiterated the concern the Commission had with the water pressure and
fire safety issues. He asked for the applicant to be patient and allow staff to further
investigate these issues more thoroughly. He provided an overview of the State Law
allowing manufactured homes.
Deputy City Attorney Miles noted the filing and receipt of Draft Elsinore Water District
Capital Improvement Program Development dated August 9, 2005 approximately 9 pages
with Appendixes A & B; and a page entitled Elsinore Water District Preliminary CIP
Schedule.
MOVED BY O'NEAL, SECONDED BY GONZALES
AND PASSED BY A VOTE OF 5-0, TO CONTINUE
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MINOR DESIGN REVIEW FOR A SINGLE STORY
SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENCE LOCATED AT 16611
MCPHERSON AVENUE (APN: 378-203-057) TO THE
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING ON
SEPTEMBER 20, 2005.
Chairman LaPere thanked the applicant for his understanding of the purpose of the
continuance.
3. Minor Desie:n Review of Two Sine:le Familv Attached Dwelline: Units located
at 137 East Prospect Street (APN 373-151-009)
City Manager Brady provided a brief overview of the proposed project and requested
Associate Planner Miller review the project with the Commission and answer questions.
Associate Planner Miller noted that this project consisted of two units and provided an
overview of the design and architecture.
Hector Zubieta, 253 Peck St., Lake Elsinore stated that he read and agreed with the staff
report and conditions of approval. He noted an error on page 2 of 17 and noted that the
roofing material should be changed from Asphalt Shingle to Concrete Tile. He noted that
he was a resident of the downtown area and supported the changes taking place in the
City. He further noted that he had done several projects in the historic area and he
resided in the historic area.
Commissioner Francia stated that the elevations showed tile roofing, which conformed to
the historical guidelines. He requested a copy of the Historical Design Guidelines. He
addressed the brick veneer being in conformance with the historical architectural design
standards.
Associate Planner Miller provided an overview of the design review process encouraging
enhancements to the architectural style.
Vice Chairman O'Neal noted that there were several types of historic standards and that
there were specific design elements within each standard.
Commissioner Gonzales noted his support for the project.
Vice Chairman O'Neal had no comment.
Commissioner Larimer noted her support for the project.
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Chairman LaPere addressed page 2 of 17 and clarified that two units were going to be
placed on 8,500 square foot lot.
Associate Planner Miller confirmed that the historical district required that the dwelling
not exceed 35% of the lot coverage
MOVED BY GONZALES, SECONDED BY FRANCIA
AND PASSED BY A VOTE OF 5-0, TO APPROVE
RESOLUTION NO. 2005-101, A RESOLUTION OF
THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA, APPROVING
MINOR DESIGN REVIEW FOR TWO (2) SINGLE-
FAMILY ATTACHED DWELLINGS LOCATED AT
137 PROSPECT STREET - APN 373-151-009
PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS
4. Tentative Tract MaD No. 31957
Chairman LaPere opened the Public Hearing at 6:35 p.m.
City Manager Brady provided a brief overview of the proposed project and requested
Associate Planner Coury review it with the Commission and answer questions.
Associate Planner Coury provided an overview of the proposed project location. He
noted that 34 acres would be subdivided into 101 single family lots ranging from 6,000
square feet to over 20,000 square feet. He noted that the applicant conducted a
neighborhood meeting to discuss interfacing issues. He further noted that the issues
discussed were traffic and design layout. He indicated that the 30 day review period of
the Mitigated Negative Declaration ended September 3rd, prior to the City Council
meeting on September 13th. He addressed a 2 page letter with an attached staff report for
a project identified as Alberhill Ranch. He further addressed Condition No. 27 regarding
traffic improvements in the immediate area that were placed on this project.
John Ford, Fortland Inc., 6753 Brocton Ave., Riverside, agreed with the staff report and
conditions of approval.
Associate Planner Coury confirmed that the condition in question by the applicant was
Condition No. 28, which addressed a traffic signal installation after the 50th certificate of
occupancy was issued.
Vice Chairman O'Neal requested a recommendation for Condition No. 28.
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Associate Planner Coury stated that staff recommended that Condition No. 28 remain as
written.
Engineering Manager Moehling concurred.
Vice Chairman O'Neal asked the applicant to clarify his disagreement with Condition
No. 28. He confirmed that the critical issue involved the cost incurred by the Condition.
John Ford noted that the issue was with timing. He indicated that when a project is
delayed there was also an issue with cost. He stated that several projects would offset the
cost of the street signal. He noted that the larger Alberhill projects were conditioned for a
signal after 600 certificates of occupancy were issued.
Engineering Manager Moehling noted that the Alberhill Ranch project was conditioned
to install traffic signals at the 100th and 120th certificate of occupancy. He provided an
overview of the improvements conditioned prior to 120th occupancy. He indicated that
the City was working to avoid increased traffic at an intersection without traffic signals
improvements. He confirmed that Alberhill Ranch was in process of installing traffic
signals and they would be installed prior to this project coming forward with
improvements, but it was a timing issue. The signals may be installed by the Alberhill
Ranch project or by this developer.
Vice Chairman O'Neal stated that the difference between the two projects was substantial
and the Alberhill Ranch had already been conditioned to install the traffic signal at the
subject intersection.
Engineering Manager Moehling confirmed and indicated although Alberhill was
conditioned for the signal, the subject project may be developed prior to Alberhill Ranch,
therefore the condition should remain for both projects to ensure a timely installation of
the traffic signal.
John Ford addressed the number of units. He requested consideration of alternatives to
Condition No. 28.
Commissioner Gonzales stated that he visited the site and confirmed the expansion of
Lincoln 81. He addressed the oak trees on the subject property.
John Ford stated that the project was designed to avoid biological issues and areas. He
clarified that the oak trees were not be in the developed area. He noted that the issues to
be addressed were the existing rock storage, trash, and a motorcycle track on the
property .
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Commissioner Francia addressed page 2 of 19 under DISCUSSION, the neighborhood
meeting participation.
John Ford noted a high level of participation at the three meetings at Rice Canyon.
Commissioner Francia asked if the project changed in between those meetings.
John Ford stated that there were no changes to the layout of the development.
Commissioner Francia clarified the term "generally satisfied."
John Ford noted that a complaint was received concerning traffic on Mountain. He stated
that a new map was created to redesign the street to a cul-de-sac.
Commissioner Francia requested confirmation that staff attended the meetings and
changed the map.
Associate Planner Coury confirmed.
Commissioner Larimer thanked the applicant for conducting neighborhood meetings.
She stated that she had not read the information provided so she would abstain.
Chairman LaPere addressed Condition No. 28. He asked the applicant to state how he
would like the Condition to read.
John Ford stated that he would change the occupancy number from 50 to 80.
Engineering Manager Moehling agreed to change the occupancy number to 75.
John Ford concurred.
Deputy City Attorney Miles offered to add a performance bond or surety provision until
the 75th certificate of occupancy based on a reasonable cost of the installation of the
traffic signal.
John Ford clarified as to if this bond was in addition to the developmental impact fees
with regard to the traffic signal.
Deputy City Attorney Miles stated that it was an additional surety that the improvement
would be done before build-out. He noted that this was a fair compromise.
John Ford clarified as to whether Alberhill Ranch had a surety bond in place. He
retracted the question and stated that Alberhill would probably be further along in their
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development and in turn install the subject traffic signal. He confirmed acceptance to the
surety bond.
Deputy City Attorney Miles amended Condition No. 28 to read as follows:
28. Applicant shall adhere to memorandum from City Traffic Engineer dated June 28,
2004 as it relates to his recommendations per the project traffic study. As per his
direction, the project should not proceed past the 75th Certificate of Occupancy
prior to the installation and full operation of traffic signals at the following
intersections:
a. Lake Street and Temescal Canyon Road, Lake Street and the 1-15
southbound ramps and Lake Street and the 1-15 northbound ramps.
Prior to issuance of the first Certificate of Occupancy, applicant
shall post a performance bond or other reasonable surety in a
form approved by the City Attorney's office, in an amount
sufficient to cover traffic signals at the referenced intersection(s).
The project shall either install the signals or not proceed past the
75th Certificate of Occupancy until those traffic signal
improvements are installed and operational. "
The applicant concurred.
Commissioner Gonzales addressed the traffic and dust affecting Rice Canyon Elementary
School.
John Ford noted that a traffic plan would be submitted to the City.
MOVED BY O'NEAL, SECONDED BY
GONZALES AND PASSED BY A VOTE OF 4-1,
WITH LARIMER ABSTAINING, TO APPROVE
RESOLUTION NO. 2005-102, A RESOLUTION
OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA,
RECOMMENDING TO THE CITY COUNCIL
ADOPTION OF FINDINGS OF CONSISTENCY
WITH SECTION 6.1.2 OF THE MULTIPLE
SPECIES HABITAT CONSERVATION PLAN
(MSHCP) FOR THE PROJECT IDENTIFIED AS
TENTATIVE TRACT MAP NO. 31957
MOVED BY GONZALES, SECONDED BY O'NEAL
AND PASSED BY A VOTE OF 4-1, WITH LARIMER
Agenda Item No.
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ABSTAINING, TO APPROVE RESOLUTION NO.
2005-103, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING
COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE,
CALIFORNIA, RECOMMENDING TO THE CITY
COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
APPROVAL OF MITIGATED NEGATIVE
DECLARATION NO. 2005-06
MOVED BY O'NEAL, SECONDED BY GONZALES
AND PASSED BY A VOTE OF 4-1, WITH LARIMER
ABSTAINING, TO APPROVE RESOLUTION NO.
2005-104, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING
COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE,
CALIFORNIA, RECOMMENDING TO THE CITY
COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
APPROVAL OF TENTATIVE TRACT MAP NO.
31957 WHICH SUBDIVIDES 34.2 ACRES OF LAND
INTO 101 RESIDENTIAL LOTS.
There being no further business, Chairman LaPere closed the Public Hearing at 6:55 p.m.
BUSINESS ITEMS
None
INFORMATIONAL
City Manager Brady provided the following information:
. Study Session scheduled for August 17th, 4:00 pm for an Aquatic Safety Study;
. EDC Luncheon on August 18th
. The Mayor's State of the City Program scheduled for September Znd at the
Diamond Stadium at 5 :00 p.m.
STAFF COMMENTS
Planning Manager Preisendanz commented on the following:
Introduced Matthew Harris as the new Senior Planner
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Senior Planner Harris commented on the following:
. Stated that he was excited about the opportunity and looked forward to making a
positive difference in the City.
PLANNING COMMISSIONER COMMENTS
Chairman LaPere stated that there was a meeting scheduled for Tuesday, August 30th at
4:00 p.m. at the Cultural Center with the City Council, Planning Commission and Public
Safety Commission. He requested topics from each Commissioner to add to the agenda
for discussion at that meeting.
Vice Chairman O'Neal commented on the following:
. Stated that he would be interested in the dissolution of Elsinore Water District;
. Noted his interest in a solar project in the high desert and his desire to be more
"green friendly" in Lake Elsinore;
. Welcomed Senior Planner Matt Harris
Commissioner Gonzales commented on the following:
. Noted that side streets are in deplorable condition;
. Stated his interest in conserving water by using artificial turf or rock instead of a
traditional lawn.
Commissioner Francia commented on the following:
. Requested an update on Capital Improvement Plan projections and progress
made;
City Manager Brady noted that an update to the Capital Improvement Projects was
included in the Weekly Memo. He indicated that staff would provide a copy of the
Capital Projects approved in the budget.
. Requested a map identifying the locations of various projects and a two-year time
table;
. Requested a time table on the General Plan Update.
. Thanked staff for the City Council Staff Report outlining the Country Club
Heights Committee recommendation.
. Confirmed his attendance for the upcoming events and meetings.
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Commissioner Larimer commented on the following:
· Requested a sign policy;
· Addressed the reputation of Lake Elsinore;
· Stated that she would be offended if the sign policy was not discussed;
· Commended Commissioner Francia for his commitment;
· Stated that she was not happy with the design of the McPherson project.
City Manager Brady noted that the City Council had retained a consultant to create a new
marketing program for the City.
Chairman LaPere commented on the following:
· Stated that he would like to discuss ways to improve the level of design criteria
for residential projects.
· Noted that the Mayor will choose specific items to discuss at the Joint Study
Session which may result in the removal of some items the Commissioners
suggested.
· Stated that the EDC Luncheon guest speaker would discuss small business loans;
· Stated that the Historical Society Grand Opening was scheduled for September
1 st.
,
· Invited the public to attend the Joint City Council Study Session on August 30th;
· Welcomed Senior Planner Matt Harris;
· Noted his appreciation of staff;
· Reminded the Commissioners to be prepared for the Joint City Council Study
Session on August 30th and read the information.
· Thanked Deputy City Attorney Miles for the Amendment to Condition No. 28 for
TTM 31957
. Thanked everyone for their participation.
City Manager Brady noted a Redevelopment Agency Study Session to review the three
proposals for the Diamond Stadium on August 24th at 4:00 p.m. at the Cultural Center.
ADJOURNMENT
THERE BEING NO FURTHER BUSIN
ADJOURNED THE MEETING AT 7:20 PM
LAPERE
Agenda Item No.
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Respectfully Submitted,
/' /1
7;uJ~ C Uf~/J
Lisa C. Alexen
Office Specialist III
Agenda Item No.
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MINUTES
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
183 NORTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CA 92530
TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 6, 2005
CALL TO ORDER:
Chairman LaPere called the Regular Planning Commission Meeting to order at 6:00 PM.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE:
Chairman LaPere led the Pledge Of Allegiance.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: COMMISSIONERS:
LAPERE, O'NEAL, GONZALES,
FRANCIA,
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS:
LARIMER
Also present were: City Manager Brady, Planning Manager Preisendanz, Deputy City
Attorney Miles, Engineering Manager Moehling, Associate Planner Coury, Associate
Planner Resendiz and Office Specialist Alexen.
PUBLIC COMMENTS (Non-Al!endized items)
NONE
CONSENT CALENDAR
1. Minutes
a. Regular Planning Commission Minutes of August 16,2005;
MOVED BY O'NEAL, SECONDED BY GONZALES
AND PASSED BY A VOTE OF 4-0, TO APPROVE
THE CONSENT CALENDAR.
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PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS
2. Tentative Tract Map No. 31593
Chairman LaPere opened the Public Hearing at 6:02 p.m.
City Manager Brady provided a brief overview of the proposed project and requested
Associate Planner Coury review the project with the Commission and answer questions.
Associate Planner Coury noted that staff requested a continuance of the item due to
unresolved issues. He further noted that the applicant was aware of the issues and that
they were hoping to bring the project back to the Commission for consideration on
September 20,2005.
MOVED BY O'NEAL, SECONDED BY FRANCIA
AND PASSED BY A VOTE OF 4-0, TO CONTINUE
TENTATIVE TRACT MAP NO. 31593 TO THE
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING ON
SEPTEMBER 20, 2005.
There being no further business, Chairman LaPere closed the Public Hearing at 6:03 p.m.
3. Residential Desi2n Review No. 2005-14 for two (2) new duplexes located at
219 Heald Ave
Chairman LaPere opened the Public Hearing at 6:05 p.m.
City Manager Brady provided a brief overview of the proposed project and requested
Associate Planner Resendiz review the project with the Commission and answer
questions.
Associate Planner Resendiz noted a correction to page 1 of 2 of the staff report to read
219 Heald Ave. He provided an overview of the proposed project and architectural
design. He noted that the duplexes were meant to be rented and subject to CC&R's.
Hector Zubieta, 253 Peck St., Lake Elsinore stated that he read and agreed with the staff
report and conditions of approval. He noted that he was a resident of the downtown area
and supported the changes taking place in the City. He further noted that he had done
several projects in the historic area and he resided in the historic area. He thanked the
Commission and staff for their assistance with the project.
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Vice Chairman O'Neal requested clarification as to whether the applicant intended to
reside, rent or sell the dwellings.
Mr. Zubieta stated his intent to sell the property.
Vice Chairman O'Neal requested the sale price.
Mr. Zubieta stated that he did not know yet.
Vice Chairman O'Neal concurred with staffs recommendation.
Commissioner Gonzales stated his concern with the poor condition of the street and the
need for paving.
Mr. Zubieta provided an overview of the progress in the area.
Commissioner Francia addressed the parking provisions in the CC&R's. He requested
clarification as to the guest parking and standard parking requirements.
Associate Planner Resendiz noted that the project met the covered parking required in the
Municipal Code.
Planning Manager Preisendanz stated that the Code required a minimum of one space per
unit plus 1.33 open spaces per unit. He indicated that the parking met the minimum
requirement.
Chairman LaPere stated his support for the design of the project. He concurred with
staffs recommendation.
There being no further business, Chairman LaPere closed the Public Hearing at 6: 10 p.m.
MOVED BY GONZALES, SECONDED BY FRANCIA
AND PASSED BY A VOTE OF 4-0, TO APPROVE
RESOLUTION NO. 2005-105, A RESOLUTION OF
THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA,
RECOMMENDING CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL OF
RESIDENTIAL DESIGN REVIEW NO. 2005-14 FOR
THE DESIGN, CONSTRUCTION AND
ESTABLISHMENT OF A TWO (2) STORY
ATTACHED RESIDENTIAL DUPLEX AND
ASSOCIATED IMPROVEMENTS, WITHIN THE
HISTORIC DOWNTOWN AREA
Agenda Item No.
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BUSINESS ITEMS
None
INFORMATIONAL
City Manager Brady provided the following information:
. Study Session scheduled for September 22nd, 4:00 pm for the CFD's and Mello
Roos funding;
. Study Session scheduled for September 29th at 4:00 to discuss City policies.
STAFF COMMENTS
Planning Manager Preisendanz commented on the following:
. Stated that a new planner would be starting next Monday.
PLANNING COMMISSIONER COMMENTS
Commissioner Francia commented on the following:
. Stated that he attended the Mayor's State of the City Address and complemented
staff and the Mayor for the efforts;
. Stated that the he was impressed with the attendance and presentation of the
event;
. Stated that he would attend the EDC Lunch.
Vice Chairman O'Neal commented on the following:
. Stated that he attended the Mayor's State of the City Address.
Commissioner Gonzales commented on the following:
. Stated that he attended the Mayor's State of the City Address;
. Thanked the City for their assistance with the Grand Opening of the Historical
Society.
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Chairman LaPere commented on the following:
. Stated that he attended the Mayor's State of the City Address and he was
impressed with the encouraging presentation.
City Manger Brady noted the efforts of Information/Communications Manager Dennis
and Mayor Magee in the creation of the presentation at the Mayor's State of the City
Address. He indicated that copies of the presentation would be distributed in the form of
a CD and the video would be shown on the cable network. He thanked staff for their
efforts involving the State of the City.
Chairman LaPere commended staff s efforts in the materials presented at the Planning
Commission meetings. He noted that the EDC Anniversary Luncheon was scheduled for
September 15th.
ADJOURNMENT
THERE BEING NO FURTHER BUSINESS, CHAIRMAN LAPERE
ADJOURNED THE MEETING AT 6:18 PM ON BE TEMBE
Ron LaPere, Chairman
Respectfully Submitted,
Lis!1~ (!, ~
Office Specialist III
Agenda Item No.
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MINUTES
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
183 NORTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CA 92530
TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 20,2005
CALL TO ORDER:
Chairman LaPere called the Regular Planning Commission Meeting to order at 6: 16 PM.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE:
Chairman LaPere led the Pledge Of Allegiance.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: COMMISSIONERS:
LAPERE, O'NEAL, GONZALES,
FRANCIA, LARIMER
ABSENT:
COMMISSIONERS:
Also present were: City Manager Brady, Planning Manager Preisendanz, Deputy City
Attorney Miles, Engineering Manager Moehling, Associate Planner Coury, Associate
Planner Resendiz, Associate Planner Miller and Office Specialist Alexen.
PUBLIC COMMENTS (Non-Al!endized items)
Tim Fleming, 17970 Lakeshore Dr., presented the Commission with copies of consumer
information with regard to manufactured homes. A copy of the information was not
provided to the clerk for the record.
CONSENT CALENDAR
Chairman LaPere pulled Item No.'s 2, 3,4 and 5 from the Consent Calendar for further
discussion.
1. Minutes
a. Regular Planning Commission Minutes of September 6, 2005;
Agenda Item No.
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MOVED BY LARIMER, SECONDED BY FRANCIA
AND PASSED BY A VOTE OF 5-0, TO APPROVE
THE BALANCE OF THE CONSENT CALENDAR.
2. Minor Deshm Review for a Sin2:le-Familv Residence located at 30521 Adam.
Assessor Parcel Number. (APN) 375-342-009.
City Manager Brady provided a brief overview of the proposed project and requested
Associate Planner Resendiz review it with the Commission and answer questions.
Associate Planner Resendiz provided an overview of the proposed project. He noted that
the architectural design included a porched-in entry and additional amenities to represent
the 1920's era. He further noted that the project was not in the historic district. He stated
that the applicant was not present.
Tim Fleming, 17970 Lakeshore Dr., clarified that the Commission would be deciding on
the approval of the project. Stated that he was in favor of the project. He noted that this
was the first residence to be built in the area for 20 years and described the challenging
issues property owners face in that area. He stated that the notice posted on the site was
positioned incorrectly. He requested that Adam and Wilson Streets to be curbed and
guttered. He noted issues with road alignments, curbs and gutters in various streets in the
area.
Arthur Garcia, 30521 Wilson Way, stated his support for new construction and
emphasized his desire for regular houses as opposed to manufactured homes.
Douglas Norfolk, 18035 Lakeshore Dr., noted his concerns with inconsistent curbs and
gutters.
Vice Chairman O'Neal concurred with staffs recommendation.
Commissioner Gonzales concurred with staffs recommendation and noted his support
for curbs and gutters. He clarified that the project was not a manufactured home. He
addressed the alignment ofthe streets and confirmed that it would be aligned properly.
City Manager Brady confirmed.
Commissioner Francia stated that curbs and gutters would be appropriate. He requested
clarification as to the TUMF fees and how they contributed to infrastructure
improvements to curbs and gutters.
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City Manager Brady stated that the TUMF fee only applied to the regional system, and
did not apply to this project. He provided an explanation ofthe in-lieu fee. He stated that
due to potential drainage issues, the City did not require the applicants to install curbs and
gutters; however an in-lieu fee was collected by the City for future installation of the
curbs and gutters.
Commissioner Larimer had no comments. She thanked the residents for their attendance
and encouraged the residents to attend future meetings.
Chairman LaPere addressed the street alignment. He addressed pages 9 and 10 of 18,
Condition No.'s 30 and 32. He clarified that the fire department was going to test the
pressure to ensure adequate fire protection.
City Manager Brady stated that the City discussed the test with the water district. He
stated that the water district was going to provide the City with a letter to confirm
adequate water pressure.
Chairman LaPere stated that Elsinore Water District had not provided that letter to the
City.
Associate Planner Resendiz stated that the City received a letter from Elsinore Water
District; however it was not signed by the District Engineer. He indicated that the project
would be approved upon receipt of the Engineer's signature on the Will-Serve Letter.
Commissioner Francia noted his earlier conversation with Planning Manager
Preisendanz. He indicated that it may be appropriate to approve the project with the
condition that proof of adequate pressure was submitted by Elsinore Water District.
Commissioner LaPere requested a modification to the Conditions of Approval to include
subject to written approval from the Engineer regarding the water pressure for safety
reasons.
Associate Planner Resendiz addressed Condition No. 50 requesting in-lieu fees for curbs
and gutters.
There was discussion regarding the fund for in-lieu fees and the manner in which they are
collected.
Commissioner Gonzales clarified that the in-lieu fees collected may not be applied to this
project.
City Manager Brady confirmed.
Agenda Item No.
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MOVED BY O'NEAL, SECONDED BY LAPERE
AND PASSED BY A VOTE OF 5-0 APPROVING
RESOLUTION NO. 2005-106, A RESOLUTION OF
THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE aTY OF
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA, APPROVING A
MINOR DESIGN REVIEW OF A SINGLE FAMILY
RESIDENCE LOCATED AT 30521 ADAM AVENUE,
ASSESSOR PARCEL NUMBER 375-342-009.
Commissioner Larimer clarified what would happen with the curbs and gutters.
Chairman LaPere stated that an in-lieu fee would be paid to the City and the curbs and
gutters would be installed at an unspecified future date.
Commissioner Larimer clarified that the improvements may not be done in the project
area at all.
City Manager Brady provided an explanation of the street improvement process with
regard to in-lieu fees.
There was discussion regarding the installation of curbs and gutters on Adam St. and
Wilson Way.
3. Minor Deshm Review for a Sin2:le-Familv Residence located at 244 East
Heald Avenue. Assessor Parcel Number 373-041-027.
City Manager Brady provided a brief overview of the proposed project and requested
Associate Planner Resendiz review it with the Commission and answer questions.
Associate Planner Resendiz provided an overview of the proposed project. He noted that
the project was located in the Historic District and had a Craftsman architectural design.
Commissioner Francia noted that he had requested this item pulled from the Consent
Calendar. He addressed the architectural design standard required and requested
clarification that the roof material would be asphalt shingles or tile. He stated that the
shingles were not consisted with the design required by the Historic District.
Associate Planner Resendiz stated that the applicant was not present.
Vice Chairman O'Neal clarified that the Craftsman Style did not mean the reproduction
of Craftsman Homes. He concurred with staffs recommendation.
Agenda Item No.
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Commissioner Gonzales requested clarification as to the property address and concurred
with staffs recommendation.
Commissioner Larimer had no comment.
Chairman LaPere concurred with staffs recommendation. He addressed page 10 of 18,
Condition No. 32 and stated that the condition was specific and well written.
MOVED BY GONZALES, SECONDED BY
LARIMER AND PASSED BY A VOTE OF 4-0-1,
WITH FRANOA ABSTAINING, APPROVING
RESOLUTION NO. 2005-107, A RESOLUTION OF
THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE OTY OF
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA, APPROVING
MINOR DESIGN REVIEW FOR A SINGLE FAMILY
RESIDENCE LOCATED AT 244 EAST HEALD
AVENUE - APN 373-041-027.
4. Minor Deshm Review of a Sim!le Familv Residence located at 16611
McPherson Avenue. Assessor Parcel Number 378-203-057.
City Manager Brady provided a brief overview of the proposed project and requested
Associate Planner Resendiz review it with the Commission and answer questions.
Associate Planner Resendiz indicated that the project was set to be continued due to the
absence of the letter from Elsinore Water District confirming adequate service. He stated
that the applicant was present.
Jorge Torres, 22065 Margarth St., Perris, stated that he had attended a previous Planning
Commission meeting for this project. He noted the ongoing issue with the Water District.
He indicated that the Water District had written a letter to the City regarding those issues.
He stated that he agreed with the staff report and conditions of approval as presented.
Vice Chairman O'Neal addressed the absence of the Will-Serve letter for this project and
the complaints of the other McPherson Avenue residents.
Commissioner Gonzales clarified that the applicant did not have the letter from EWD that
the Commission requested for consideration of this project.
The applicant stated that EWD had submitted a letter to the City to confirm adequate
servIce.
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Associate Planner Resendiz noted that the letter referenced by the applicant was the same
one pending the Engineer's signature. He stated that EWD had been contacted regarding
the need for the signature and the City was waiting for a response. He noted that this was
the same situation as the project on Adam Ave.
Commissioner Francia stated that he had spoken to Rolfe regarding the letter. He
indicated that the letter was forth coming and recommended approving the project with a
condition that a satisfactory report was received from EWD confirming adequate water
servIce.
Deputy City Attorney Miles suggested a modification to Condition No. 34 integrating a
suitable Will-Serve Letter will be approved by City Engineering Division prior to
issuance of a building permit.
Commissioner Larimer noted her concerns with the design of the project and asked if any
changes had been made.
Jorge Torres stated that no changes had been made.
Chairman LaPere noted the concerns the Commission had with the safety of the Country
Club Heights area.
Vice Chairman O'Neal requested copies of all correspondence from EWD.
Chairman LaPere requested copies of all correspondence from EWD for all
Commissioners.
Associate Planner Resendiz confirmed.
MOVED BY FRANaA, SECONDED BY GONZALES
AND PASSED BY A VOTE OF 4-1, WITH LARIMER
CASTING THE DISSENTING VOTE, APPROVING
RESOLUTION NO. 2005-108, A RESOLUTION OF
THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA, APPROVING A
MINOR DESIGN REVIEW OF A SINGLE FAMILY
RESIDENCE LOCATED AT 16611 McPHERSON
AVENUE, ASSESSOR PARCEL NUMBER 378-203-
058.
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5. Minor Deshm Review of two (2) Sinele Familv Detached Pre-manufactured
Dwelline Units located at 316 and 318 Townsend Street (APN 374-102-024)
City Manager Brady provided a brief overview of the proposed project and requested
Associate Planner Miller review it with the Commission and answer questions.
Associate Planner Miller provided an overview of the proposed project. She noted that
the architectural style did not match the styles required in the Historic Elsinore District
design standards. She indicated that the applicant had not complied with staffs request
for additional architectural features. She stated that the applicant was aware that staff did
not support the project as presented and recommended that the Planning Commission
deny the project.
Solomon Mishkanina, 39 Giotto, Aliso Viejo, provided an overview of the design of the
project and noted the additional covered patio. He stated that the other manufactured
homes in the area were not as nice as the proposed project. He stated that he was
confused by the denial. He stated that he could attach the patio to the home for
improvement.
Commissioner Francia stated that he read the staff report and noted his disappointment in
the applicants' confusion. He noted staffs effort to bring the project in compliance. He
suggested that the applicant do further research in order to bring the project in
compliance with the guidelines. He stated that the time spent on this project could have
been used productively on other projects that were in accordance with the code
requirements.
Commissioner Gonzales stated his dislike of the box-like pattern of the project. He noted
that the applicant needed to do further research.
Solomon Mishkanina noted additional features.
Vice Chairman O'Neal concurred with staff and stated that the project must meet the
design standards applicable to the Historic Elsinore District.
Commissioner Larimer clarified if the applicant intended to reside in one of the homes in
the proposed project.
Solomon Miskanina stated that he didn't know.
Commissioner Larimer asked if the properties in Aliso Viejo were like the one he
proposed for Lake Elsinore.
Agenda Item No.
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Solomon Miskanina stated that this area was different from Aliso Viejo and the
properties there were different. He stated that the proposed building for Lake Elsinore
was more elegant than the other ones in Lake Elsinore.
Commissioner Larimer clarified that the project was an investment for the applicant for
right now. She stated that the residents were proud of the City and this project had
received negative review.
Solomon Miskanina stated that the inside was better than the homes in Aliso Viejo.
Chairman LaPere noted the General Plan Update in process. He indicated that it was the
City's intention to maintain the historical design standard. He suggested that the
applicant work with staff and do further research.
MOVED BY O'NEAL, SECONDED BY GONZALES
AND PASSED WITH A VOTE OF 5-0 TO APPROVE
RESOLUTION NO. 2005-109, A RESOLUTION OF
THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA, DENYING
MINOR DESIGN REVIEW OF TWO SINGLE
FAMILY RESIDENCES LOCATED AT 316 AND 318
TOWNSEND STREET.
PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS
6. Tentative Tract Map No. 31593
City Manager Brady provided a brief overview of the proposed project and noted that
staff recommended continuing the project to an unspecified date.
MOVED BY O'NEAL, SECONDED BY LARIMER
AND PASSED WITH A VOTE OF 5-0 TO CONTINUE
TENTATIVE TRACT MAP NO. 31593 TO AN
UNSPECIFIED DATE
7. Tentative Tract Map No. 32786
Chairman LaPere opened the Public Hearing at 7:24 p.m.
City Manager Brady provided a brief overview of the proposed project and requested
Associate Planner Coury review the project with the Commission and answer questions.
Agenda Item No.
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Associate Planner Coury provided an overview of the proposed project. He indicated that
the applicant had proposed to construct a 12,300 square foot community park or tot lot.
He further noted that the applicant intended to pay all applicable park fees to support park
construction in the immediate area. He noted changes in the following conditions:
· Condition No. 60, page 19 of24 eliminate (from V street to Arnold Avenue)
· Condition No. 61, page 20 of24 change the word "full" to half
· Condition No. 63, page 20 of24 change "Arnold Avenue" to project frontage
· Condition No. 72, page 20 of 24 change "prior to building permit issuance" to as
part of final map
· Move Condition No. 72 to Condition No. 65 because it is prior to approval of
final map
· Condition No. 76, on page 21 of 24, strike last sentence and replace with Per
Condition No. 83
Associate Planner Coury noted that he had been contacted by four property owners in the
area who had concerns with traffic circulation and related issues, including drainage.
John Neu, Centex Homes, 2280 Wardlow Circle, Ste. 150, noted that he was proud to be
a part of the growth the City was experiencing. He addressed the drainage issues and
noted their intention to maintain the historic flow of water in the area. He noted the
addition of the tot lot based on negotiations with Community Services. He stated that
Centex was in agreement with the modified Conditions of Approval presented by
Associate Planner Coury. He thanked staff and Wendy Worthy for their efforts.
Danny Perez, 19615 Grand Ave., addressed the drainage from the project. He stated that
the existing storm drain system from the track of homes near his property had damaged
his property. He noted improvements he made to his property to accommodate the
additional water runoff. He requested assurance that this project would not damage his
property in the event of a heavy rain. He addressed his concern with access to his
property disrupted by the existing storm drain system.
Leandro Perez 16663 Lash St. requested consideration of new storm drains to allow for
access to his property without flooding.
Wally Sage, 3515 Cherry Blossom Lane, addressed the roads and traffic. He addressed
the eucalyptus trees on Lakeshore. He also addressed safety issues and the large boulders
that could cause damage or injury if they are not contained. He noted his concern with
the dust caused by the project.
Agenda Item No.
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Leroy Tucker, 3532 Cherry Blossom Lane, addressed the intention of the applicant to cut
the hill on Terra Cotta to use for fill. He requested dust control and a barrier along Terra
Cotta to block loose boulders.
There being no further business, Chairman LaPere closed the Public Hearing at 7:37 p.m.
Vice Chairman O'Neal addressed Mr. Perez's concerns.
Engineering Manager Moehling stated that he had met with Mr. Perez and discussed the
existing problem. He stated that there were no grading or street improvement plans
available for review at this time.
Vice Chairman O'Neal asked if cut and fill method would be used.
John Neu confirmed and stated that Centex would create an obstruction to contain loose
boulders. He addressed Mr. Perez's concerns and stated that they would work towards a
solution.
Commissioner O'Neal concurred with staffs recommendation.
Commissioner Gonzales addressed the expansion of Nichols Road.
John Neu addressed the Murdock Alberhill Bridge. He noted the future street and signal
improvements at the loath Certificate of Occupancy. He indicated that there would be
dust control in place.
Commissioner Francia addressed Mr. Perez's concerns.
Engineering Manager Moehling stated that the property owner had re-designed the site.
John Neu stated that it was against the law for Centex to disrupt the historic flow of
water, however they would work together to avoid damage to Mr. Perez's property.
Commissioner Larimer confirmed that Mr. Perez's concerns had been addressed
Chairman LaPere indicated that the City and Centex would work to resolve Mr. Perez's
concerns.
John Neu provided an overview of the law that addressed the historic flow.
There being no further business, Chairman LaPere closed the Public Hearing at 7:37 p.m.
Agenda Item No.
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MOVED BY O'NEAL, SECONDED BY LARIMER
AND PASSED WITH A VOTE OF 5-0 TO
APPROVE RESOLUTION NO. 2005-110, A
RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING
COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF LAKE
ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA, RECOMMENDING
TO THE CITY COUNCIL ADOPTION OF
FINDINGS OF CONSISTENCY WITH SECTION
6.1.2 OF THE MULTIPLE SPECIES HABITAT
CONSERVATION PLAN (MSHCP) FOR THE
PROJECT IDENTIFIED AS TENTATIVE TRACT
MAP NO. 32786
MOVED BY LARIMER, SECONDED BY
GONZALES AND PASSED WITH A VOTE OF 5-0
TO APPROVE RESOLUTION NO. 2005-111, A
RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION
OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA,
RECOMMENDING TO THE CITY COUNCIL OF
THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE APPROVAL OF
MITIGATED NEGATIVE DECLARATION NO. 2005-
09
MOVED BY FRANCIA, SECONDED BY LARIMER
AND PASSED WITH A VOTE OF 5-0 TO APPROVE
RESOLUTION NO. 2005-112, A RESOLUTION OF
THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA,
RECOMMENDING TO THE CITY COUNCIL OF
THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE APPROVAL OF
TENTATIVE TRACT MAP NO. 32786 WHICH
SUBDIVIDES 151.78 ACRES OF LAND INTO 386
LOTS
BUSINESS ITEMS
None
INFORMATIONAL
None.
Agenda Item No.
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STAFF COMMENTS
None
PLANNING COMMISSIONER COMMENTS
Vice Chairman O'Neal commented on the following:
. No comment
Commissioner Francia commented on the following:
. No comment
Commissioner Gonzales commented on the following:
. No comment
Commissioner Larimer commented on the following:
. No comment
Chairman LaPere commented on the following:
. Thanked staff for their efforts.
ADJOURNMENT
THERE BEING NO FURTHER BUSIN SS, CHAIRMAN LAPERE
ADJOURNED THE MEETING AT 8:00 PM N EPTE
Agenda Item No.
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Respectfully Submitted,
{/ud {! ~
Lisa C. Alexen
Office Specialist III
Agenda Item No.
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MINUTES
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
183 NORTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CA 92530
TUESDAY, OCTOBER 4, 2005
CALL TO ORDER:
Chairman LaPere called the Regular Planning Commission Meeting to order at 6:02 PM.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE:
Chairman Francia led the Pledge Of Allegiance.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: COMMISSIONERS:
LAPERE, O'NEAL, GONZALES,
FRANCIA, LARIMER
ABSENT:
COMMISSIONERS:
Also present were: Planning Manager Preisendanz, Deputy City Attorney Miles,
Engineering Manager Seumalo, Associate Planner Coury, Associate Planner Resendiz,
Associate Planner Miller and Office Specialist Alexen.
PUBLIC COMMENTS (Non-Al!:endized items)
NONE
CONSENT CALENDAR
Chairman LaPere pulled Item No.'s 2 and 3 from the Consent Calendar for further
discussion.
1. Minutes
a. Regular Planning Commission Minutes of September 20,2005;
MOVED BY O'NEAL, SECONDED BY GONZALES
AND PASSED BY A VOTE OF 5-0, TO APPROVE
THE BALANCE OF THE CONSENT CALENDAR.
Agenda Item No.
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2. Minor Deshm Review for a Sin2:le-Familv Residence located at 17765 Sunnv
Slope Avenue. Assessor Parcel Number. (APN) 375-225-027.
Planning Manager Preisendanz provided a brief overview of the proposed project and
requested Associate Planner Resendiz review it with the Commission and answer
questions.
Associate Planner Resendiz provided an overview of the proposed project. He indicated
that the building area would cover approximately 32% of the lot and the architectural
style was California Contemporary Style. He noted that the detached garage included a
utility room which was conditioned not to be occupied as a second dwelling unit in the
near future. He stated that the applicant was aware of the condition.
Commissioner Francia addressed the utility room in the detached garage and clarified that
it would not be used for living quarters. He asked if there was a provision prohibiting the
utility room being used as living quarters in the future.
Associate Planner Resendiz stated that there was no provision prohibiting the structure to
be used as living quarters, however if they intended to use it in the future, the applicant
would be required to comply with the off-street parking requirements. He stated that
there were no shower or cooking facilities, however it was insulated. He stated that the
applicant was aware of additional fees associated with the conversion of the utility room
in the amount of $23,000.00 to $25,000.00.
Vice Chairman O'Neal addressed the Will Serve Letter.
Associate Planner Resendiz stated that there was no Will Serve Letter.
Commissioner Gonzales had no comment.
Commissioner Larimer had no comment.
Chairman LaPere addressed page 13 of 24, paragraph 3, last sentence, "The EWD Board
will consider the project completion timeframe and related financial plan this month. "
He indicated that improvements of the new water storage reservoir, pump station and
connecting pipelines would not be completed until 2007.
Vice Chairman O'Neal stated that the project was slated to finish at the end of2006.
Michael Bennet 33264 Mackay Drive, Lake Elsinore stated that he had no questions, and
requested approval of the project so that he could begin the planning stages of the project.
He stated that he was aware of the water issue and he had a Will Serve Letter which he
provided to the Clerk for the record.
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Vice Chairman O'Neal clarified if the applicant intended to reside at this residence.
Michael Bennett stated that he planned to retire at the residence.
Chairman LaPere requested that Office Specialist Alexen read the Will-Serve Letter to
the Commission.
Office Specialist Alexen read the letter, which indicated that there was a fire hydrant
located 225 feet from the project site. It further stated that the minimum flow shall be
500 GPM for a 2-hour duration at a 20-PSI residual.
MOVED BY FRANCIA, SECONDED BY LARIMER
AND PASSED BY A VOTE OF 5-0 APPROVING
RESOLUTION NO. 2005-113, A RESOLUTION OF
THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA, APPROVING A
MINOR DESIGN REVIEW OF A SINGLE FAMILY
RESIDENCE LOCATED AT 17765 SUNNY SLOPE
A VENUE.
3. Minor Deshm Review for a Sine:le-Familv Residence located at 30265 Hill
Avenue. Assessor Parcel Number. (APN) 375-313-040 & 041.
Planning Manager Preisendanz provided a brief overview of the proposed project and
requested Associate Planner Resendiz review it with the Commission and answer
questions.
Associate Planner Resendiz provided an overview of the proposed project. He noted that
the architectural style was Spanish Colonial with additional amenities.
Commissioner Larimer stated that she liked the design. She requested confirmation of
the size of the dwelling. She addressed access and future road improvements in the area.
Associate Planner Resendiz stated that the streets were currently undeveloped and the
street improvements were conditioned to be paid in-lieu of.
Engineering Manager Seumalo indicated that the City's General Plan Update identified
the access road as a special area to be addressed. He further indicated that the
determination for the road widths and alignments had not been made at this time.
Commissioner Larimer thanked Engineering Manager Seumalo and welcomed him back
to the City staff.
Agenda Item No.
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Commissioner Francia had no comment.
Vice Chairman O'Neal confirmed ifthe applicant was present.
Associate Planner Resendiz stated that he was not present.
Vice Chairman O'Neal stated that the project looked nice.
Commissioner Gonzales stated that the access road was bad and had potential for
washing out. He stated that the design was nice.
Chairman LaPere clarified that a Will Serve Letter was provided.
Associate Planner Resendiz stated that the secretary of EWD had requested that the
applicant to contact them to request a letter to be reviewed by the Water District
Engineer.
Chairman LaPere confirmed that the City was anticipating a Will Serve Letter
Associate Planner Resendiz confirmed.
MOVED BY LARIMER, SECONDED BY LAPERE
AND PASSED BY A VOTE OF 5-0, APPROVING
RESOLUTION NO. 2005-114, A RESOLUTION OF
THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA, APPROVING A
MINOR DESIGN REVIEW OF A SINGLE FAMILY
RESIDENCE LOCATED AT 30265 HILL AVENUE.
5. Tentative Tract Map No. 30494
Chairman LaPere opened the Public Hearing at 6:21 p.m.
Planning Manager Preisendanz provided a brief overview of the proposed project and
requested Associate Planner Coury review it with the Commission and answer questions.
Associate Planner Coury provided an overview of the proposed project. He indicated that
it was located at the northeast corner of Canyon Hills Road and Cottonwood Canyon
Road. He noted that the applicant worked with staff to resolve all issues related to the
proposed tract map. He noted the following modifications to the Conditions of Approval:
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· Page 10 of 23, # 32 to read Show that a decorative masonry wall or fence will be
constructed along the entire tract boundary;
· Page 15 of 23, strike condition no. 86;
· Page 17 of23, #11 renumber last two conditions numbers to 114 and 115;
· Page 17 of 23, new number 115 to read, Developer shall pay drainage fees of the
cottonwood Drainage District, in accordance with the terms of the applicable
development agreement.
Jim Stringer, Pardee Homes, 20 Executive Park, Irvine agreed with the report and
modifications to the Conditions of Approval.
Commissioner Gonzales stated that the project looked good. He addressed low cost
housing.
Associate Planner Coury indicated that he was not aware of any low cost housing
associated with the project.
Commissioner Gonzales addressed the relocation of an oak tree.
Jim Stringer stated that four oak trees had been relocated and identified the new
locations.
Commissioner Francia had no comment.
Commissioner Larimer had no comment.
Vice Chairman O'Neal addressed the maintenance debris basin activity and requested an
update.
Jim Stringer noted that the existing debris basin was in process of being cleaned out.
Vice Chairman O'Neal requested average lot size.
Russ Rider, BV Engineering, 1181 California Ave., Corona, stated that there were three
building areas with an average of 6,800 square feet.
Vice Chairman O'Neal stated his support for projects developed by Pardee Homes.
Chairman LaPere agreed with staffs recommendation and supported the effort of Pardee
Homes.
There being no further business, Chairman LaPere closed the Public Hearing at 6:29 p.m.
Agenda Item No.
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MOVED BY GONZALES, SECONDED BY
LARIMER AND PASSED BY A VOTE OF 5-0,
APPROVING RESOLUTION NO. 2005-115, A
RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION
OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA,
RECOMMENDING TO THE CITY COUNCIL OF
THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE APPROVAL OF
TENTATIVE TRACT MAP NO. 30494 WHICH
SUBDIVIDES 191 ACRES OF LAND INTO 484
TOTAL LOTS IN THE CANYON HULLS SPECIFIC
PLAN AREA, TO INCLUDE THE MODIFIED
CONDITIONS OF APPROVAL
6. Draft Mitie:ated Nee:ative Declaration No. 2005-07. Tentative Tract Map No.
33370 (For Condominium Purposes). Conditional Use Permit No. 2005-01.
and Residential Desie:n Review No. 2005-02 - APN 373-071-018
Chairman LaPere opened the Public Hearing at 6:30 p.m.
Planning Manager Preisendanz provided a brief overview of the proposed project and
requested Associate Planner Miller review it with the Commission and answer questions.
Associate Planner Miller provided an overview of the proposed project. She indicated
that the project consisted of 90 single family detached condominiums. She further
indicated that the design was a cluster plan consisting of six units per cluster with
attached two-car garages.
Leonard Leichnitz, Lumos Communities, 30713 Riverside Dr., Lake Elsinore, agreed
with the staff report and Conditions of Approval. He provided an overview of the
proposed project. He noted that the property consisted of nine acres, zoned R-3, allowing
18 units per acre. He noted the detached feature to the town homes to allow for
backyards and some driveways. He addressed traffic and noted that a traffic signal would
be installed on Main St.
Commissioner Larimer stated that she spoke with the architect and Mr. Leichnitz
regarding the design of Plan lA and the enhancement to the entry. She requested
clarification as to a detached condominium.
Leonard Leichnitz provided an explanation of the difference between a single family
residence and a detached condominium. He noted that a cluster of six homes was owned
in common, but a single family residence had specific lot lines and boundaries to identify
each parcel. He indicated that those boundaries were not present in a cluster. He further
Agenda Item No.
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indicated that the Home Owners Association would maintain the landscaping in the front
yards and the motor court.
Vice Chairman O'Neal concurred with staffs recommendation and stated that he was
enthusiastic about the concept of detached condominiums. He stated that it was a
beautiful project. He noted his disappointment with the potential loss of views in the area
due to the project.
Leonard Leichnitz identified the area which would have some view of the lake.
Commissioner Francia addressed the views of the property owners and the surrounding
residents to be affected. He noted his support of the project. He addressed the parking in
proximity of Franklin and the condition of the roads. He stated his concern with traffic at
Franklin and the 1-15 Freeway. He also addressed the perimeter landscape maintenance.
Leonard Leichnitz noted that the City would annex the outside perimeter into the LLMD
and therefore maintain the area. He addressed traffic on Franklin and the future
circulation in the area.
Commissioner Francia addressed the future construction in the area and the impacts to
the traffic control. He stated his support for the project.
Commissioner Gonzales requested clarification of a project denied by the City Council in
July, 2005 due to traffic impacts. He noted his concern for the same problem affecting
this project. He addressed page 30 of 41, # 34 regarding low income housing.
Leonard Leichnitz stated that the outcome of the low income housing requirement was
yet to be determined.
Chairman LaPere noted his support for the design and concept of the project. He
confirmed that the HOA would maintain the streets.
There being no further business, Chairman LaPere closed the Public Hearing at 6:50 p.m.
MOVED BY O'NEAL, SECONDED BY GONZALES
AND PASSED BY A VOTE OF 5-0, APPROVING
RESOLUTION NO. 2005-116, A RESOLUTION OF
THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA,
RECOMMENDING TO THE CITY COUNCIL
ADOPTION OF MITIGATED NEGATIVE
DECLARATION 2005-07 FOR THE PROJECT
KNOWN AS TENTATIVE TRACT MAP NO. 33370
Agenda Item No.
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(FOR CONDOMINIUM PURPOSES); RESIDENTIAL
DESIGN REVIEW NO. 2005-02; AND
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 2005-01
LOCATED SOUTHEAST OF 1-15 FREEWAY AND
SOUTH OF FRANKLIN STREET.
MOVED BY FRANCIA, SECONDED BY O'NEAL
AND PASSED BY A VOTE OF 5-0, APPROVING
RESOLUTION NO. 2005-117, A RESOLUTION OF
THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA,
RECOMMENDING CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL OF
TENTATIVE TRACT MAP NO. 33370 (FOR
CONDOMINIUM PURPOSES) FOR THE
"TESSERA" PROJECT LOCATED SOUTHEAST OF
1-15 FREEWAY AND SOUTH OF FRANKLIN
STREET.
MOVED BY GONZALES, SECONDED BY FRANCIA
AND PASSED BY A VOTE OF 5-0, APPROVING
RESOLUTION NO. 2005-118, A RESOLUTION OF
THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA, APPROVING
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 2005-01 FOR
THE ESTABLISHMENT OF A CONDOMINIUM
PROJECT KNOWN AS "TESSERA" LOCATED
SOUTHEAST OF 1-15 FREEWAY AND SOUTH OF
FRANKLIN STREET
MOVED BY GONZALES, SECONDED BY
LARIMER AND PASSED BY A VOTE OF 5-0,
APPROVING RESOLUTION NO. 2005-119, A
RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION
OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA,
RECOMMENDING CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL OF
RESIDENTIAL DESIGN REVIEW NO. 2005-02 FOR
THE DESIGN, CONSTRUCTION AND
ESTABLISHMENT OF THE CONDOMINIUM
PROJECT KNOWN AS "TESSERA" LOCATED
SOUTHEAST OF 1-15 FREEWAY AND SOUTH OF
FRANKLIN STREET.
Agenda Item No.
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. Welcomed Engineering Manager Seumalo back to the City of Lake Elsinore
staff.
. Stated that Engineering Manager Seumalo donated art to the Senior Center
when he departed.
Commissioner Larimer commented on the following:
. Welcomed Engineering Manager Seumalo back to the City of Lake Elsinore
staff.
. Thanked everyone who attended the Planning Commission Meeting
. Thanked the Commissioners for their comments regarding her speech.
Chairman LaPere commented on the following:
. Thanked staff for their efforts.
. Welcomed Engineering Manager Seumalo back to the City of Lake Elsinore
staff.
. Stated that Commissioner Larimer's speech was refreshing to hear.
ADJOURNMENT
THERE BEING NO FURTHER BUSINESS, CHAIRMAN LAPERE
ADJOURNED THE MEETING AT 7:26 PM ON TOBER 4, 005.
Respectfully Submitted,
~ ; ')
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Lisa C. Alexen
Office Specialist III
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ATTEST:
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Rolfe Preisendanz, Secretary to the
Planning Commission
Agenda Item No.
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7. Residential Desie:n Review No. 2005-10 for two (2) detached duplex
developments located (tV, APN # 377-231-013 and 014.
Chairman LaPere opened the Public Hearing at 6:53 p.m.
Planning Manager Preisendanz provided a brief overview of the proposed project. He
indicated that the project would be rental units.
Jacqueline and Ernest Gibson, 307 N. Lowell St., Lake Elsinore stated that they owned
the cabinetry business at 522 N. Poe St. Jacqueline stated that six or seven years ago the
Planning Commission re-zoned the area from M-l to R-3 and they were not notified. She
provided an overview of the area. She indicated that she was concerned with the noise
and commercial traffic from their cabinetry business disturbing the renters living in the
proposed project. She provided photos of the area for the Commissioners. She requested
that the Commission put this project on hold until the General Plan is updated.
Ernest Gibson noted that about 20 years ago the City assured him that his property would
remain zoned M -1. He provided an overview of the reasons for keeping the area zoned
M-l.
Shawn McElvogue, M4 Development, 21141 Cedar Lane, Mission Viejo, agreed with the
staff report and Conditions of Approval.
Commissioner Francia requested clarification as to the zoning of the property near a
cabinet shop and City Public Works Yard. He asked Deputy City Attorney Miles if the
residents could complain about the noise and hours of operation, and potentially restrict
the business activity.
Deputy City Attorney Miles stated that there was a zone change from M-l to R-3 for the
subject property. Related to the zone change were findings that compatibility for
adjacent property existed. He stated that the residents could complain. He provided an
overview of adjoining land and surrounding land use compatibility.
Planning Manager Preisendanz clarified that the density was consistent with the General
Plan. He noted the General Plan Update currently in process and recommended that the
Gibson's attend the next GPAC meeting.
Commissioner Francia further noted his concerned and his support for local businesses.
He thanked Rolfe for encouraging the residents to attend the GP AC meeting.
Jacqueline Gibson stated that restrictions made on businesses by new area residents were
common and she stated her concern.
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Deputy City Attorney Miles noted that the Commission could research the zone change
in the area for further clarification prior to moving forward with the project. He further
noted that he could not speculate future complaints.
Planning Manager Preisendanz noted that the City had considered the zoning which was
approved for the area.
Vice Chairman O'Neal concurred with staffs recommendation.
Commissioner Gonzales clarified the zoning in the area.
Planning Manager Preisendanz stated that it was Medium-High Density and provided an
overview of the surrounding area.
There was discussion as to the future development in the area and access issues.
Commissioner Gonzales clarified the hours of operation for the cabinetry shop.
Ernest Gibson provided an explanation of his regular business hours and number of
employees. He noted potential parking and delivery issues.
Commissioner Larimer addressed the applicant's consideration of the residents.
Shawn McElvogue stated that he was not aware of any problems with the area. He said
that it was the developer's responsibility to pave Poe St. up to the property line. He
addressed the zoning and stated that sound was not an issue in the area.
Chairman LaPere encouraged the Gibson's to attend the GPAC. He concurred with
staff s recommendation.
Commissioner Larimer stated that the developer would have more problems with
complaints than the local business owners.
Planning Manager Preisendanz offered to meet with the Gibson's and address their
concerns.
There being no further business, Chairman LaPere closed the Public Hearing at 7: 19 p.m.
MOVED BY GONZALES, SECONDED BY FRANCIA
AND PASSED BY A VOTE OF 5-0, APPROVING
RESOLUTION NO. 2005-120, A RESOLUTION OF
THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA, APPROVING
Agenda Item No.
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RESIDENTIAL DESIGN REVIEW NO. 2005-10 FOR
THE DESIGN, CONSTRUCTION AND
ESTABLISHMENT OF TWO (2) NEW RESIDENTIAL
DUPLEX DEVELOPMENTS AND ASSOCIATED
IMPROVEMENTS LOCATED WITHIN THE
HISTORIC DOWNTOWN SPECIFIC PLAN
DISTRICT.
BUSINESS ITEMS
None
INFORMATIONAL
Planning Manager Preisendanz stated that the General Plan Advisory Committee would
be meeting on Wednesday, Oct. 5th at 3:00 p.m. to discuss the Historic District and there
would be weekly meetings until the Joint Planning Commission/City Council meeting on
November 17th.
STAFF COMMENTS
Planning Manager Preisendanz stated that he was glad to welcome Engineering Manager
Ken Seumalo back to staff.
Engineering Manager Seumalo stated that he appreciated the opportunity to come back to
work at the City of Lake Elsinore.
PLANNING COMMISSIONER COMMENTS
Vice Chairman O'Neal commented on the following:
. Stated that the he attended a meeting with residents in the Country Club
Heights area regarding water pressure issues.
. Stated that everyone at the Lion's Club Anniversary Party enjoyed
Commissioner Larimer's speech.
Commissioner Gonzales commented on the following:
. Stated that the Lion's Club Anniversary Party was a success and
Commissioner Larimer gave nice speech.
Commissioner Francia commented on the following:
Agenda Item No.
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MINUTES
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
183 NORTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CA 92530
TUESDAY, OCTOBER 18, 2005
CALL TO ORDER:
Chairman LaPere called the Regular Planning Commission Meeting to order at 6:00 PM.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE:
Commissioner Gonzales led the Pledge Of Allegiance.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: COMMISSIONERS:
LAPERE, O'NEAL, GONZALES, FRANCIA,
LARIMER
ABSENT:
COMMISSIONERS:
Also present were: Community Development Director Preisendanz, Deputy City Attorney
Miles, Engineering Manager Seumalo, Associate Planner Coury, Associate Planner Resendiz,
Associate Planner Miller and Office Specialist Alexen.
PUBLIC COMMENTS (Non-Aeendized items)
NONE
CONSENT CALENDAR
Chairman LaPere pulled Item No.4 from the Consent Calendar for further discussion.
1. Minutes
a. Regular Planning Commission Minutes of October 4, 2005
Commissioner Larimer clarified her statement on page 6 of 12 of the October 4th minutes to note
that she spoke with the architect before to the Planning Commission meeting.
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MOVED BY GONZALES, SECONDED BY O'NEAL AND
PASSED BY A VOTE OF 5-0, TO APPROVE THE
BALANCE OF THE CONSENT CALENDAR.
Since Commissioner Gonzales resides in direct proximity to the project in Item No.4, he
removed himself from the meeting at 6:03 p.m.
4.
Minor Deshm Review of a Sin!!le Familv Residence located at 16678 Lash
Assessor Parcel Numbers 378-263-025.
Street.
Community Development Director Preisendanz provided an overview of the project and
requested Associate Planner Resendiz review it with the Commission and answer questions.
Associate Planner Resendiz provided an overview of the proposed project design and location.
He noted that the applicant was not present.
David Bertoldo, stated that he was there to represent his son who resided at 16769 Hunt Ave. He
stated his concern for the rodents in the area and the effect the construction would have on the
displacement of said rodents. He requested that the builder mitigate rodent control. He further
addressed the slope and his concern with the stability of the parcel due to erosion.
City Engineer Seumalo stated that Condition No. 41 required a soils report which would reveal
any requirement for structural stability, including a retaining wall requirement. He explained the
City's approval process of the grading plans to the Commission.
Vice Chairman O'Neal addressed the issue of rodents.
David Bartolo stated his concern with rodent migration to higher ground during construction and
the effect it would have on his son's property.
Commissioner Larimer addressed palm tree protection.
Commissioner Francia addressed noted Condition No. 22 on page 10 of 18 regarding vegetation
for long term preventative measures for erosion.
Engineering Manager Seumalo explained the responsibility of both property owners to plant the
common slopes for erosion control.
Chairman LaPere concurred with staffs recommendation. He further addressed rodent control.
MOVED BY O'NEAL, SECONDED BY LARIMER AND
PASSED BY A VOTE OF 5-0 APPROVING RESOLUTION
NO. 2005-121, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING
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Chairman LaPere addressed the safety issue for children crossing an area where vehicles would
be present.
Community Development Director Preisendanz noted that the City had met with RCA regarding
the road connection to ensure access to the park site. He stated that they were working with the
applicant to determine if access to the park would be vehicular or pedestrian.
Chairman LaPere stated his support for the project.
There being no further business, Chairman LaPere closed the Public Hearing at 6:30 p.m.
MOVED BY GONZALES, SECONDED BY LARIMER
AND PASSED BY A VOTE OF 5-0, APPROVING
RESOLUTION NO. 2005-122, A RESOLUTION OF THE
PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF LAKE
ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA, RECOMMENDING TO THE
CITY COUNCIL ADOPTION OF FINDINGS OF
CONSISTENCY WITH SECTIONS 6.1.2 AND 6.1.4 OF
THE MULTIPLE SPECIES HABITAT CONSERVATION
PLAN (MSHCP) FOR THE PROJECT IDENTIFIED AS
TENTATIVE TRACT MAP NO. 31593.
MOVED BY O'NEAL, SECONDED BY FRANCIA AND
PASSED BY A VOTE OF 5-0, APPROVING RESOLUTION
NO. 2005-123, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING
COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE,
CALIFORNIA, RECOMMENDING TO THE CITY
COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
APPROVAL OF MITIGATED NEGATIVE DECLARATION
NO. 2005-08
MOVED BY FRANCIA, SECONDED BY GONZALES AND
PASSED BY A VOTE OF 5-0, APPROVING RESOLUTION
NO. 2005-124, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING
COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE,
CALIFORNIA, RECOMMENDING TO THE CITY
COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
APPROVAL OF TENTATIVE TRACT MAP NO. 31593
WHICH SUBDIVIDES 234.0 ACRES OF LAND INTO 521
RESIDENTIAL LOTS
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COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE,
CALIFORNIA, APPROVING A MINOR DESIGN REVIEW
OF A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE LOCATED AT 16778
LASH STREET.
Commissioner Gonzales returned to the meeting at 6:20 p.m.
5. Tentative Tract Map No. 31593
Chairman LaPere opened the Public Hearing at 6:21 p.m.
Community Development Director Preisendanz provided a brief overview of the proposed
project and requested Associate Planner Coury review it with the Commission and answer
questions.
Associate Planner Coury provided an overview of the proposed project. He noted that the lots
ranged in size from 6,000 to 10,000 square feet. He detailed the peaks and ridges included in the
development. He noted that the applicant had proposed to provide five pocket parks and ten
usable acres for a park off site to be used by residents of this project and the residents of a future
project in the adjacent area. He stated that the parks were conditioned to be fully constructed by
the first certificate of occupancy associated with this project. He indicated that the applicant had
requested a minor modification to a condition related to providing water to the future park.
Bob Krause, Southshore Properties, 6600 W. Charleston Blvd. Ste. 124, Las Vegas, Nv., thanked
staff for their efforts. He suggested a modification to Condition No. 9 on page 19 of 28 to
include language to clarify future water and sewer service. He agreed with the staff report and
remaining Conditions of Approval.
Commissioner Francia addressed a sunset clause on temporary water and sewer facilities.
City Engineer Seumalo stated that the temporary facilities are semi permanent until the new
project is completed and the improvements were installed.
Vice Chairman O'Neal noted his support for the project.
Commissioner Gonzales noted his support for the project.
Commissioner Larimer stated that the project was consistent with the development standards in
the City and stated her support.
Chairman LaPere addressed access to the parks.
Mr. Krause detailed the MSHCP requirement for access to the area for public use.
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6. Residential Desie:n Review No. 2005-01
Chairman LaPere opened the Public Hearing at 6:37p.m.
Community Development Director Preisendanz provided a brief overview of the proposed
project and requested Associate Planner Miller review it with the Commission and answer
questions.
Associate Planner Miller noted that the project consisted of four units on a 50,000 square foot
lot. She provided a detail of the architectural design and landscape plan.
Daniel Lopez, 358 E. San Ysidro Blvd., San Ysidro, agreed with the staff report and Conditions
of Approval.
Commissioner Francia addressed the design of the project as per the Historic District Design
Standards.
Commissioner Larimer noted her support for the project.
Commissioner Gonzales addressed the location of the garages.
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Mr. Lopez explained that the access to the property was through the rear of the lot.
Vice Chairman O'Neal noted his support for the project.
Chairman LaPere stated his support for the uniqueness of the project.
There being no further business, Chairman LaPere closed the Public Hearing at 6:43 p.m.
MOVED BY LARIMER, SECONDED BY FRANCIA AND
PASSED BY A VOTE OF 5-0, APPROVING RESOLUTION
NO. 2005-125, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING
COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE,
CALIFORNIA, RECOMMENDING CITY COUNCIL
APPROVAL OF RESIDENTIAL DESIGN REVIEW NO.
2005-01 FOR THE DESIGN, CONSTRUCTION AND
ESTABLISHMENT OF A TWO (2) DUPLEXES LOCATED
AT 110 AND 118 CHESTNUT STREET
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7. Tentative Parcel Map No. 34023
Chairman LaPere opened the Public Hearing at 6:44 p.m.
Community Development Director Preisendanz provided a brief overview of the proposed
project and requested Associate Planner Resendiz review it with the Commission and answer
questions.
Associate Planner Resendiz provided an overview of the subdivision located at Heald at Mohr
Ave. He detailed the requirements for the subdivision and indicated that the project had met
and/or exceeded those requirements.
Vice Chairman O'Neal stated his support for the project.
Commissioner Gonzales stated his support for the project.
Commissioner Larimer stated her support for the project.
Commissioner Francia stated his support for the project.
Chairman LaPere concurred with the staffs recommendation.
There being no further business, Chairman LaPere closed the Public Hearing at 6:46 p.m.
MOVED BY GONZALES, SECONDED BY LARIMER AND
PASSED BY A VOTE OF 5-0, APPROVING RESOLUTION
NO. 2005-126, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING
COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE,
CALIFORNIA, RECOMMENDING TO THE CITY
COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
APPROVAL OF TENTATIVE PARCEL MAP NO. 34023.
8. Residential Desi2n Review No. 2005-17. Desi2n Review of Model Homes and
Production Units For Vestin2 Tract Map No. 28214-3 (Alberhill Ranch)
Chairman LaPere opened the Public Hearing at 6:47 p.m.
Community Development Director Preisendanz provided a brief overview of the proposed
project and requested Associate Planner Coury review it with the Commission and answer
questions.
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Chairman LaPere clarified that construction for the project would commence in
November, 2005.
9. CUP 2005-17 Pet Crematory Facilitv
Chairman LaPere opened the Public Hearing at 7:01 p.m.
Community Development Director Preisendanz provided a brief overview of the proposed
project and requested Associate Planner Resendiz review it with the Commission and answer
questions.
Associate Planner Resendiz provided an overview of the project location. He indicated that the
use was consistent with the existing uses in the Collier Ave. Businesspark. He stated that the
services provided by the facility would be indoors and exclusively for veterinary clinics. He
detailed the equipment to be used in the facility. He indicated that staff had conducted an initial
study to verify that the operation would be less than significant to the environment.
Tim McNally, 18231 Irvine Blvd, Tustin, Vista Real Investors, owner to adjacent property at
29380 Hunco read a statement of objection to the project.
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Jeff Rawlins, CTP/Waijan Products, 29360 Hunco Way, Lake Elsinore, stated his objection to
the project and noted the surrounding business.
Louis Reyes, 31829 Feather Creek Dr., Menifee noted his experience in the environmental
industry and his awareness of environmental implications of various businesses. He stated that
the operation of the crematory was a non-hazardous operation. He provided an overview of the
various locations of pet crematories. He presented a comparison of emissions from various
industries. He stated that there were no hazardous implications to this business. He noted that
Lake Elsinore was an ideal location for this business due to the surrounding cities. He agreed
with the staff report and conditions of approval. He indicated that there was an animal surgeon
and an expert in pet marketing present.
Vice Chairman O'Neal clarified the process in which a pet crematory operated.
Sarik Dupak, San Marcos, stated that the crematory process was done only to dogs and cats
which were pets. He stated that it was dignified, small operation. He detailed the manner in
which the transporting and cremation process would be conducted.
Commissioner Gonzales clarified that Sarik would not be an on-site surgeon. He further
clarified that the pet would come from a veterinarian and not a private party.
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Community Development Director Preisendanz added a condition to page 12 of 12, Condition
No. 11 to include, the facility would serve veterinary clinics only with the operating hours of
8:00 a.m. to 8:00 p.m. Monday through Sunday.
Commissioner Francia addressed signage and marketing activity. He clarified that there would
not be any advertising or signs to identify the business in the proposed location.
Commissioner Larimer addressed the process for pet cremation. She requested to view the
documentation prior to voting for this item.
Chairman LaPere addressed the CEQA findings and noted that the project was in compliance
with CEQA requirements. He stated that it was not difficult to rescind an action taken by the
Planning Commission. He addressed the hours of operation. He further clarified that there
would be no outside signage.
CDD Preisendanz confirmed.
MOVED BY O'NEAL, SECONDED BY FRANCIA AND
PASSED BY A VOTE OF 4-0-1, WITH LARIMER
ABSTAINING, APPROVING RESOLUTION NO. 2005-128,
A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF
THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA,
APPROVING CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 2005-17
FOR A PET CREMATORIUM TO BE LOCATED AT 29360
HUNCO WAY, SUITE "A".
There being no further business, Chairman LaPere closed the Public Hearing at 7:35 p.m.
BUSINESS ITEMS
None
INFORMATIONAL
Community Development Director Preisendanz stated that the General Plan Advisory Committee
would be meeting on Monday, Oct. 24th at 3:00 p.m. and noted that the Joint Planning
Commission/City Council GPAC meeting would be held on November 1 tho
STAFF COMMENTS
City Manager Brady introduced Rolfe Preisendanz as the new Community Development
Director and offered his congratulations. He stated that he was proud and pleased with his
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ability to lead the department. He noted that he would miss being a part of the Planning
Commission meetings.
Engineering Manager Seumalo stated his support for Mr. Preisendanz.
Associate Planner Resendiz offered his congratulations to Mr. Preisendanz.
Community Development Director Preisendanz thanked City Manager Brady for the opportunity
and thanked staff for their efforts.
PLANNING COMMISSIONER COMMENTS
Commissioner Francia commented on the following:
. Congratulated Rolfe on his appointment of Community Development Director;
· Stated his support for the opportunity given to staff to advance their careers and noted
that the team was an "A" Team with great accomplishments coming forth in the
future.
Commissioner Larimer commented on the following:
. Concurred with Commissioner Francia;
· Congratulated Rolfe on his appointment of Community Development Director;
. Requested the Weekly Memo to be emailed to her.
City Manager Brady noted that it was not possible to email the Weekly Memo due to the
attachments.
Commissioner Gonzales commented on the following:
. Congratulated Rolfe on his appointment of Community Development Director;
. Addressed the Cabinet Shop owners and the meeting with staff
. Requested maps for a class at Lakeside High School.
CDD Preisendanz confirmed the meeting with the Cabinet Shop owners and provided an
overview of the discussion.
Vice Chairman O'Neal commented on the following:
. Stated that the he was supportive of staff's efforts and accommodation;
. Stated his support for Rolfe as Community Development Director.
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Chairman LaPere commented on the following:
· Noted the Joint Planning Commission/City Council GP AC Study Session on
November 1 ih and requested that the Commissioners attend;
· Congratulated Rolfe on his appointment of Community Development Director;
. Stated his support for promoting employees within the business.
ADJOURNMENT
THERE BEING NO FURTHER BUSINESS, CHAIRMAN LAPERE ADJOURNED
THE MEETING AT 7:48 PM ON OCTOBER 18,
Respectfully Submitted,
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Lisa C. Alexen
Office Specialist III
ATTEST:
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Rolfe Preisendanz, Secretary to the
Planning Commission
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MINUTES
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
183 NORTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CA 92530
TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 1, 2005
CALL TO ORDER:
Chairman LaPere called the Regular Planning Commission Meeting to order at 6:00 PM.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE:
Vice Chairman O'Neal led the Pledge Of Allegiance.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: COMMISSIONERS:
LAPERE, O'NEAL, GONZALES, FRANCIA,
LARIMER
ABSENT:
COMMISSIONERS:
Also present were: Community Development Director Preisendanz, Deputy City Attorney
Miles, Engineering Manager Seumalo, Associate Planner Coury, Associate Planner Resendiz and
Office Specialist Alexen.
PUBLIC COMMENTS (Non-Aeendized items)
NONE
CONSENT CALENDAR
Chairman LaPere noted clerical corrections to the minutes on pages 3 and 9 of 11.
1. Minutes
a. Regular Planning Commission Minutes of October 18, 2005
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2. Minor Deshm Review of a Sinele Family Residence located at 16935 Pierrott Avenue.
Assessors Parcel Numbers 378-253-164. 017. 018 and 019.
MOVED BY FRANCIA, SECONDED BY LARIMER AND
PASSED BY A VOTE OF 5-0, TO APPROVE THE
CONSENT CALENDAR WITH NOTED CORRECTIONS
TO THE MINUTES.
PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS
3. Conditional Use Permit No. 2004-42 and Industrial Desien Review No. 2004-09 for
the proiect know as "Self-Storaee Facility"
Chairman LaPere opened the Public Hearing at 6:02 p.m.
Community Development Director Preisendanz provided an overview of the proposed project
and requested Senior Planner Harris review it with the Commission and answer questions.
Senior Planner Harris noted that the project consisted of a two-story, self mini-storage facility
with a total of 360 units. He stated that M-l zoning was consistent with the City's Municipal
Code requirements and the hours of operation would be Monday through Friday from 8 a.m. to 7
p.m. He provided an overview of the parking and architecture. He noted a correction to
Condition No. 13 on page 16 of 16 to include three.
Wayne Haaland, 7106 E. Columbus Dr., Anaheim Hills, thanked the Commission for their
consideration. He noted his meetings with City staff to avoid controversy. He thanked Senior
Planner Harris for his encouragement to improve the appearance of the project. He requested use
of the buildings prior to project completion, with building inspector approval. He noted that the
Planning Division was concerned with an incomplete project; however the building department
agreed to allow use prior to completion. He agreed with the remaining Conditions of Approval.
Senior Planner Harris indicated that a phasing plan had been recently proposed by the applicant
and needed to be implemented to ensure efficient operation.
Vice Chairman O'Neal questioned the time involved to complete the project.
Mr. Haaland stated that he did not consider a phasing plan necessary and that he would finish the
project in about a year. He stated that the safety issues would be addressed.
Vice Chairman O'Neal requested a timeline for completion.
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Mr. Haaland stated that it would take four months to complete the first two buildings and one
year to complete the project. He indicated that the issue was presented to the City less than a
month ago. He further noted that it was not an issue of phasing, but having the ability to rent the
completed units while continuing construction on the remainder of the project.
Vice Chairman O'Neal addressed the timing of the applicants request to conduct business during
construction.
Senior Planner Harris indicated that the request was presented within the last two weeks.
Vice Chairman O'Neal indicated that if safety issues were addressed and a date certain was
determined, he would have no problem with the project completion. He stated it was a good
project and noted the extra efforts taken regarding the design consideration. He indicated that
with staffs support he would have no problem with a phasing plan to include a date certain.
Commissioner Gonzales stated that he had no problem with the business. He addressed the
method of security with regards to explosives and security.
Mr. Haaland noted that the security cameras would be in place.
Commissioner Gonzales clarified that the applicant would have the ability to check the contents
of the units. He addressed graffiti prevention on the back wall of the building. He further
addressed signage.
Mr. Haaland provided an overview of the proposed signs.
Commissioner Francia noted his concerns with sign control. He addressed the nature of a project
phasing plan. He noted the need for an exit provision and fire control. He further noted that if
staff was satisfied with an adequate plan to include a schedule, he would not have a problem with
it.
Senior Planner Harris stated that no phasing plan had been prepared.
Engineering Manager Seumalo noted provisions in the project and addressed the clarifying basin
for NPDES compliance that needed to be functioning, and the location construction traffic would
enter the business. He noted his concern with the location of the sign in the right-of-way on
Dexter, which is not permitted.
Mr. Haaland stated that the sign would be on the project property, not on the right-of-way. He
noted a secondary gate in place for construction access. He reiterated that the project did not
need a phasing plan.
Commissioner Francia indicated that a plan was necessary for fire safety in the event of an
emergency.
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Community Development Director Preisendanz stated that the fire department did not review the
project with a phasing plan. He noted that the project would need to be adequately conditioned
as a partial project. He stated that staff was willing to work with the applicant to address critical
fire issues.
Commissioner Larimer noted her support for the signage. She indicated that the project needed a
plan. She stated her support for the landscaping chosen and requested that a plan is put into
place.
Chairman LaPere agreed with the Commissioner's comments and noted his concern with safety.
He clarified that the applicant would address the plan with staff with a condition of approval.
Deputy City Attorney Miles noted that the adjudicated matter required guidance from the
Commission and the Certificates of Occupancy were issued in two phases consecutively where
two Certificates of Occupancy were issued initially and five Certificates of Occupancy were
issued in the second phase so that the applicant could use two buildings until the second phase is
complete. He proposed two additional conditions to provide two phases for the Certificates of
Occupancy and direction to staff to work out the details for the timing for the NPDES
compliance, construction traffic patterns, signage at Dexter Rd., site distance and access issues.
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There being no further business, Chairman LaPere closed the Public Hearing at 6:32 p.m.
MOVED BY O'NEAL, SECONDED BY GONZALES AND
PASSED BY A VOTE OF 5-0 APPROVING AMENDED
RESOLUTION NO. 2005-132, A RESOLUTION OF THE
PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF LAKE
ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA, APPROVING CONDITIONAL
USE PERMIT NO. 2004-42 FOR THE ESTABLISHMENT
OF A "SELF-STORAGE FACILITY" LOCATED AT 18801
DEXTER AVENUE, APN 377-110-055.
MOVED BY O'NEAL, SECONDED BY LARIMER AND
PASSED BY A VOTE OF 5-0 APPROVING RESOLUTION
NO. 2005-133, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING
COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE,
CALIFORNIA, RECOMMENDING TO THE CITY
COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
APPROVAL OF INDUSTRIAL DESIGN REVIEW NO. 2004-
09 FOR A SELF-STORAGE FACILITY LOCATED AT
18801 DEXTER AVENUE, APN 377-110-055.
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4. Industrial Desi n Review No. 20 5-03 - Vanderhoek Industrial BuUdin s Assessor
Parcel Number 377-151-045.
Chairman LaPere opened the Public Hear ng at 6:35 P.M.
Community Development Director Prei endanz provided a brief overview of the proposed
project and requested Associate Planner Resendiz review it with the Commission and answer
questions.
Associate Planner Resendiz indicated tha the proposed project consisted of the design review of
three industrial buildings on Minthorn nd Third Street. He provided a description of the
architectural design of the buildings and I ndscaping.
Carl Vanderhoek, Vanderhoek Architect, Inc. 4109 E. Fernwood Ave., Orange agreed with the
staff report and Conditions of Approval a presented.
Hugh Mosebacher, 600 Third St, Lake E sinore indicated that he was the owner of the building
adjacent to the proposed project. He n ted his concerns with the negative effects this project
would have on his landscaping. He not d his opposition to the height of the buildings and his
concerns with the setbacks and landscapi g.
Mr. Vanderhoek noted that the buildin s were one-story with a six inch setback from the
property line. He indicated that his lands ape architect would address landscaping issues.
Commissioner Francia stated his support or the project and the additional business. He clarified
the warehouse use.
Associate Planner Resendiz clarified that he use would be office, mezzanine and manufacturing,
not warehousing.
Commissioner Larimer requested to revie the colored elevations.
Commissioner Gonzales clarified the I cation of the building in relation to the trees and
confirmed that the trees would not be cut own.
Vice Chairman O'Neal concurred with st ffs recommendation.
Commissioner Larimer stated her support for the project.
Chairman LaPere concurred with staffs r commendation.
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Mr. Mosebaker questioned the method 0 maintaining the proposed building if he did not allow
the applicant on his property to access i. He clarified that the building height was 23 feet 6
inches. He stated that he would work wit the applicant.
There being no further business, Chairma LaPere closed the Public Hearing at 6:50 p.m.
MOVED BY GONZALE , SECONDED BY LARIMER AND
PASSED BY A VOTE 0 5-0, APPROVING RESOLUTION
NO. 2005-134, A RES LUTION OF THE PLANNING
COMMISSION OF TH CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE,
CALIFORNIA, RECO MENDING CITY COUNCIL
APPROVAL OF INDUST AL DESIGN REVIEW NO. 2005-
03
5. Lake Elsinore Ford. Commercial
No. 2005-06 Variance No. 2005-0
Chairman LaPere noted that the applicant equested to continue this item.
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Community Development Director Preise danz indicated that the item would be continued until
the December 6th Planning Commission eeting.
MOVED BY LARIMER, SECONDED BY GONZALES AND
PASSED BY A VOTE OF 5-0, TO CONTINUE LAKE
ELSINORE FORD; CO MERCIAL DESIGN REVIEW NO.
2005-02, CONDITIONA USE PERMIT NO. 2005-06,
VARIANCE NO. 2005-0 , AND MITIGATED NEGATIVE
DECLARATION NO. 200 -06 TO DECEMBER 6, 2005
6. Residential Desi n Review No. 20 5-07
Chairman LaPere opened the Public Hear"ng at 6:52 p.m.
Community Development Director Prei endanz provided a brief overview of the proposed
project and requested Associate Planner Resendiz review it with the Commission and answer
questions.
Associate Planner Resendiz noted that t e project consisted of a one-story attached duplex on
Graham St. He noted that a similar proj ct was approved adjacent to this project in which the
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applicant was to provide a different color scheme. He stated that the project consisted of a
craftsman style architectural design with added amenities.
Daniel Lopez, 136 San Marcos Pl., Chula Vista, stated that read the report and addressed the
color of the project and noted that the adjacent project faced a different direction. He stated that
he had no problem painting this project a different color. He stated that he agreed with the
Conditions of Approval.
Vice Chairman O'Neal addressed the elevations and stated that the project looked nice.
Commissioner Gonzales clarified that the units would be rentals and addressed the rental price.
Mr. Lopez stated that he had no idea at this point.
Commissioner Francia clarified that the project complied with the Historic Elsinore Design
Standards.
Associate Planner Resendiz confirmed.
Commissioner Larimer had no comment.
Chairman LaPere agreed with staffs report and recommendation.
There being no further business, Chairman LaPere closed the Public Hearing at 6:58 p.m.
MOVED BY GONZALES, SECONDED BY LARIMER AND
PASSED BY A VOTE OF 5-0, APPROVING RESOLUTION
NO. 2005-135, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING
COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE,
CALIFORNIA, APPROVING RESIDENTIAL DESIGN
REVIEW NO. 2005-07; FOR THE ESTABLISHMENT OF A
MANUFACTURED DUPLEX DEVELOPMENT
7. Residential Deshm Review No. 2005-13. for "Weatherlv" within the Canyon Hills
Specific Plan
Chairman LaPere opened the Public Hearing at 7:00 p.m.
Community Development Director Preisendanz provided a brief overview of the proposed
project and requested Associate Planner Coury review it with the Commission and answer
questions.
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Associate Planner Coury noted that the project was identified as Weatherly and located in
Planning Area 21B of the Canyon Hills Specific Plan Area. He noted that the project proposed
three single family detached residential plans and elevations with a model home complex. He
indicated that the units proposed were two story homes ranging in size from less than 2,000
square feet to 2,300 square feet.
Thomas Houska, Pulte Homes, 2 Technology Dr., Irvine stated that he read and agreed with the
staff report and Conditions of Approval.
Commissioner Gonzales stated his support for the project.
Vice Chairman O'Neal stated that it was a nice project.
Commissioner Larimer stated her support for the architecture and color scheme.
Commissioner Francia stated his support for the project.
Chairman LaPere concurred with staffs recommendation.
There being no further business, Chairman LaPere closed the Public Hearing at 7:03 p.m.
MOVED BY O'NEAL, SECONDED BY LARIMER AND
PASSED BY A VOTE OF 5-0, APPROVING RESOLUTION
NO. 2005-136, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING
COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE,
CALIFORNIA, APPROVING RESIDENTIAL DESIGN
REVIEW NO. 2005-13 WHICH ENTAILS DESIGN REVIEW
OF A THREE-PLAN MODEL HOME COMPLEX AND
PRODUCTION UNITS WHICH WILL BE CONSTRUCTED
THROUGHOUT 131 SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL
LOTS WITHIN TRACT MAP NO. 30493
8. Conditional Use Permit No. 2005-09: for the desie:n and development of Mono-"Faux
Boulder" Unmanned Wireless Antenna Facility located on the "Canyon Hills" water
tank site.
Chairman LaPere opened the Public Hearing at 7:05 p.m.
Community Development Director Preisendanz provided a brief overview of the proposed
project and requested Associate Planner Resendiz review it with the Commission and answer
questions.
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Associate Planner Resendiz provided an overview of the proposed project. He noted the design
of the facility to include faux boulders. He further noted that there was no viable source of water
near the facility and the site was an arid environment, therefore landscaping was no proposed.
Kerri Simmons, Cingular Wireless, 12900 Park Plaza Dr., Cerritos, stated that she read and
agreed with the staff report and Conditions of Approval.
Commissioner Francia noted his support for the innovative design.
Ms. Simmons stated that the design influence was the surrounding area.
Commissioner Larimer had no comment.
Vice Chairman O'Neal stated his support for the project.
Commissioner Gonzales stated his support for the project and addressed graffiti.
Ms. Simmons noted that the location was remote and surrounded by rod iron fencing.
Chairman LaPere addressed the distance between the entrance and the facility and noted his
support for the project.
Gene Urdalis, 31884 Cedar Hill Ln., Lake Elsinore noted the location of his property and
addressed access to the project. He indicated that the vehicles using the access road had a
difficult time reaching the site due to the size of the gate. He noted that the vehicles using the
access road had caused damage to his view fence. He further addressed the maintenance of the
access road.
Ms. Simmons stated that Cingular had a lease agreement with EVMWD for street maintenance.
She suggested a Condition of Approval to address timely graffiti removal.
Deputy City Attorney Miles amended Condition No. 9 on page 11 of 21 to include graffiti
removal within 48 hours of notification.
Engineering. Manager Seumalo addressed the access road for the maintenance vehicles and the
manner in which damage to the fence would be avoided.
Ms. Simmons indicated that the gate would be removed for better access and noted the size of
the maintenance vehicles.
There being no further business, Chairman LaPere closed the Public Hearing at 7:22 p.m.
Agenda Item No.
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MOVED BY O'NEAL, SECONDED BY GONZALES AND
PASSED BY A VOTE OF 5-0 APPROVING RESOLUTION
NO. 2005-137, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING
COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE,
CALIFORNIA, APPROVING CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT
NO 2005-09 FOR THE INSTALLATION OF AN
UNMANNED WIRELESS FACILTIY FOR CINGULAR
WIRELESS LOCATED AT THE CANYON HILLS WATER
TANK SITE.
BUSINESS ITEMS
None
INFORMATIONAL
NONE
STAFF COMMENTS
NONE
PLANNING COMMISSIONER COMMENTS
Commissioner Francia commented on the following:
. Welcomed Senior Planner Matt Harris to the meeting.
Commissioner Larimer commented on the following:
. Stated that she supported the Pet Crematory brought before the Commission on
October 18,2005;
. Stated her frustration with the designs presented and requested that staff encourage
developers to bring forward projects which exceed the minimum design standard
requirements in order to draw people to the City.
Community Development Director Preisendanz noted that staff had raised the bar by asking for
better designs from the applicants and developers. He noted that the General Plan Update was
considering the City's freeway orientation and working with CalTrans to improve the
landscaping.
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Vice Chairman O'Neal commented on the following:
· Stated that the Home Depot project showed an effort to implement significant
changes which show improvement and suggested that Commissioner Larimer visit the
site;
· Noted that steps were being taken to improve the quality of the projects and the
efforts of staff to continue the positive changes in the projects;
· Stated that the City could not force the developers to exceed the minimum standard of
design.
Commissioner Larimer clarified her statements to assure staff that they were doing well.
Commissioner Gonzales commented on the following:
. Noted the new home with nine gables under construction near Commissioner
O'Neal's home;
· Stated that the graffiti near the Costco site could be painted by the Titans;
. Stated that Safe Candy Night was successful and fun.
Chairman LaPere commented on the following:
. Stated that he was a judge for the costume contest at Safe Candy Night and thanked
staff for a nice evening for the kids;
· Noted that the boards of directors of corporations set policies and standards the way
the City Council does for the City and they dictate what their staff must do to ensure a
return on their investment;
· Stated that the Joint City Council/Planning Commission Study Session for the
General Plan Update was scheduled for November 17th at 4:00 p.m.;
. Thanked staff for their efforts.
ADJOURNMENT
THERE BEING NO FURTHER BUSINES ,
THE MEETING AT 7:37 PM ON NOVEM
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Respectfully Submitted,
~t/1a' -' C. ~P.rl
Lisa C. Alexen
Office Specialist III
ATTEST:
/Mt
Rolfe Preisendanz,
Director of Community Development
Agenda Item No.
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MINUTES
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
183 NORTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CA 92530
TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 15, 2005
CALL TO ORDER:
Chairman LaPere called the Regular Planning Commission Meeting to order at 6:00 PM.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE:
Chairman LaPere led the Pledge Of Allegiance.
ROLL CALL
~
PRESENT: COMMISSIONERS:
LAPERE, O'NEAL, GONZALES, FRANCIA,
LARIMER
ABSENT:
COMMISSIONERS:
Also present were: Community Development Director Preisendanz, Deputy City Attorney
Miles, Engineering Manager Seumalo, Senior Planner Harris and Office Specialist Alexen.
PUBLIC COMMENTS (Non-A2endized items)
NONE
CONSENT CALENDAR
Office Specialist Alexen noted clerical corrections to the minutes on page 11 of 12.
1. Minutes
a. Regular Planning Commission Minutes of November 1,2005
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MOVED BY LARIMER, SECONDED BY GONZALES AND
PASSED BY A VOTE OF 5-0, TO APPROVE THE
CONSENT CALENDAR WITH NOTED CORRECTIONS
TO THE MINUTES.
PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS
2. Minor Desie:n Review for two (2) detached Sine:le Familv Residences located at
16380 & 16382 Lakeshore Avenue and Variance No. 2005~06 to deviate from front
and rear setback reauirements at APN Nos. 378-312-004. 005
Chairman LaPere opened the Public Hearing at 6:01p.m.
Community Development Director Preisendanz provided a brief overview of the project and
requested Senior Planner Harris review it with the Commission and answer questions.
Senior Planner Harris noted the location of the proposed project and provided description of the
floor plan and architecture. He noted an additional condition to address the east elevation of the
house on the corner lot to include additional ornamentation. He addressed the landscaping and
noted the decorative masonry wall to be constructed along Clement St. He stated that in order to
achieve the two houses, a variance would be required to deviate from the front and rear yard
setbacks from 20 feet to 15 feet, 6 inches. He stated that the Engineering Department required a
dedication and right-of-way on the front and rear of the property, which would significantly
reduce the size of the lot.
Hector Zubieta, 253 Peck St., Lake Elsinore, noted the additional windows on the corner of the
house for added ornamentation. He stated that he agreed with the staff report and Conditions of
Approval.
Commissioner Gonzales noted his concern with the future widening of Lakeshore Drive and
clarified that the house would be 20 feet from the curb after the road is widened.
Mr. Zubieta confirmed and noted that the access was from the alley at the rear ofthe property.
Commissioner Gonzales stated that he had no problem with the project.
Commissioner Francia clarified if staff concurred with the future street improvement to include
curb, gutter and sidewalk.
Engineering Manager Seumalo confirmed and noted that the anticipated need for a change of the
right-of-way on Lakeshore Dr.
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Vice Chairman O'Neal concurred with staffs recommendation.
Commissioner Larimer requested to view the new east elevation including the additional
windows. She stated her concern with the noise potential at the site location.
Mr. Zubieta stated that Lakeshore was becoming a busy street and nothing could be done about
the noise. He stated that a six foot high fence in the front of the house for noise control was not
allowed.
Senior Planner Harris noted that the building was attenuated to achieve noise control inside the
house.
Chairman LaPere agreed with staff and the Commissioners.
Deputy City Attorney Miles noted a correction to the Resolution Finding No.2 to include".. .do
not apply. . ."
There being no further business, Chairman LaPere closed the Public Hearing at 6: 12 p.m.
MOVED BY LARIMER, SECONDED BY O'NEAL AND
PASSED BY A VOTE OF 5-0 APPROVING AMENDED
RESOLUTION NO. 2005-139, A RESOLUTION OF THE
PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF LAKE
ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA, APPROVING A MINOR
DESIGN REVIEW OF TWO SINGLE FAMILY
RESIDENCES LOCATED AT 16380 AND 16382
LAKE SHORE AVENUE, ASSESSOR PARCEL NUMBER(S)
378-312-004 & -005.
MOVED BY LARIMER, SECONDED BY FRANCIA AND
PASSED BY A VOTE OF 5-0 APPROVING RESOLUTION
NO. 2005-140, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING
COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE,
CALIFORNIA, APPROVING VARIANCE NO. 2005-06 FOR
A REDUCTION IN FRONT AND REAR YARD SETBACK
REQUIREMENTS FOR TWO DETACHED SINGLE
FAMILY RESIDENCES LOCATED AT 16380 AND 16382
LAKE SHORE AVENUE, ASSESSOR PARCEL NUMBER(S)
378-312-004 & -005.
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3. Conditional Use Permit No(s). 2005-15 & 2005-22 & Commercial Deshm
Review No. 2005-06.
Chairman LaPere opened the Public Hearing at 6: 15 p.m.
Community Development Director Preisendanz provided a brief overview of the project and
requested Senior Planner Harris review it with the Commission and answer questions.
Senior Planner Harris provided an overview of the proposed project. He noted that the project
consisted of a three story Holiday Inn Express hotel with 76 rooms on 1.42 acres located on the
west side of Canyon Estates Drive, referred to in the staff report as Site One. He noted that the
property owner requested that various development standards be modified on a site directly to
the north of the project site to allow for the possible future development of a hotel. He noted that
the property owner and applicant were seeking improvements to sites one and two. He provided
a description of the improvements requested. He noted staffs support for the hotel use on the
subject property. He addressed the FAR (Floor Area Ratio) increase of 30% to achieve a
specific number of hotel rooms in order to make the project viable. He stated that this increase
would not impact the surrounding properties. He stated that the increase in the building height
would allow for non-habitable architectural elements to be incorporated into the design, thereby
enhancing the esthetics of the facility. He noted that the Conditions of Approval for Site One
would ensure that the site operates in an appropriate manner and would not result in any
incompatibility issues. He stated that the hotel was a limited service facility with three stories,
73 rooms, a public meeting room and an indoor pool. He addressed parking to accommodate the
rooms and employees. He indicated that in order to accommodate parking for the meeting room,
staff recommended a condition to state that the meeting room would be used between the hours
of 9:00 a.m. and 7:00 p.m., Monday through Friday. He detailed the architectural style to
include a fountain and decorative arts. He requested a modification to Condition No. 26 to read
The Railroad Canyon Roadfee is $40,336.00 as approved in Conditions of Approvalfor Parcel
Map 30832. He further requested deleting Condition No. 54.
Sachin Trivedi, agreed with the staff report and the Conditions of Approval as amended.
Lon Bike, 23975 Clinton Keith Rd. #114, Murrieta, stated that he represented the architectural
firm for the project and he was available to answer questions.
Tim Fleming 17970 Lakeshore Dr., Lake Elsinore stated that the date on the Public Hearing sign
was incorrect. He noted his support for more hotels in the area. He further noted his concern for
the location of the proposed project due to traffic and access issues. He stated that the proposed
project had no parking to accommodate recreational vehicles and semi trucks.
Jason Leinen, 31520 Sagecrest Dr. Lake Elsinore, stated his opposition to the project and noted
that the Public Hearing sign on the project site had the wrong meeting date posted. He indicated
that the proposed project would obstruct his view. He stated that the project would diminish the
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residential atmosphere of the immediate area. He requested that the size of the hotel remain
limited.
David Moon, 31605 Ridgecrest Dr., Lake Elsinore, stated that he lived across the street from the
proposed project and noted his concern with overflow parking impacting his residence. He
stated his concern for additional traffic in the area. He stated his concern with the project
negatively affecting the value of his property.
Thomas Saltarelli, Abbacy Holding Co., 4695 MacArthur Ct. #310, Newport Beach, stated that
he represented the owner of the property. He stated that he was proud that the hotel was seeking
the area to develop. He stated that the project would not attract large trucks due to the lack of a
restaurant and it would minimize traffic in the area. He stated that the staff report was very well
done.
Sachin Trivedi stated that he was the lead of the project and provided a brief background of his
experience and development team. He provided an overview of the hotel facility and the
clientele it would attract. He stated that the peak hours of the hotel were 7:00 a.m. to 9:00 p.m.
which would mitigate traffic. He addressed parking and stated that the ratio of car per room is
less than one. He noted the security of the property. He further noted his desire to enter the
community with a high quality facility.
David Wilensky, 37777 Sky High Dr., Murrieta, stated his support for the development team and
the high standards of Intercontinental Hotels.
Commissioner Francia noted his concern with traffic circulation in the surrounding project area.
He noted the parking issues with Washington Mutual employees parking across the street from
the bank due to limited parking availability. He noted his concerns with traffic, parking and the
additional residents on Franklin St. from a future residential project. He stated that emergency
vehicles would not have the ability to access a situation in the area because of the traffic issues.
He addressed his concerns with the proposed variances. He confirmed that if the Commission
did not approve the proposed increase in the floor area ratio, the project would not have enough
room.
Mr. Trivedi confirmed that the project would not be feasible without the variance.
Commissioner Francia confirmed that there would be enough parking spaces to allow one
parking space per room and approximately eight employees. He noted the additional people
using a conference room and stated that parking for the additional people would be inadequate.
He requested an explanation as to the method the developer proposed to avoid disrupting the
surrounding residents with the additional parking needs.
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Mr. Trivedi stated that the parking lot occupancy would be minimal during the day which would
allow for the employee parking and meeting room parking. He stated that the meeting room
capacity would be 25 people.
Commissioner Francia addressed the additional height request for 10 feet.
Mr. Bike noted that the additional height request was for architectural towers, which were non
habitable space. He stated that the main roof line was within the current zoning requirements.
Commissioner Francia addressed parking accommodations for truckers.
Mr. Bike stated that the intent of the business to accommodate family and business guests and
that there was no room for large trucks.
Mr. Wolinsky stated that it was not realistic for truckers to seek accommodations in the hotel
because it was too expensive. He invited the Committee to visit the Temecula facility to observe
the parking lot.
Commissioner Francia addressed the floor space and parking provlSlons for the hotels III
Victorville and San Diego.
Mr. Trivedi stated that they were more or less the same.
Commissioner Gonzales stated his concern with parking for recreational vehicles and boats. He
noted his support for the variance for the increased height.
Commissioner Larimer stated her support for the project. She stated that the staff report was
well done. She noted the issues the residents presented and thanked them for attending the
meeting. She stated her support for the project design and the addition to the area.
Vice Chairman O'Neal stated that he had no problem with the hotel in that area. He noted
concerns with traffic and building placement with respect to the 1-15 CalTrans offramp.
Engineering Manager Seumalo detailed the interim improvements to the interchange slated for
next week. He indicated that the ultimate improvements were scheduled some time in the future.
He stated that there would be significant traffic until the ultimate improvements were made.
Vice Chairman O'Neal addressed the possibility of a hook ramp.
Engineering Manager Seumalo confirmed that possibility and noted that staff supported a
variation of the hook ramp. He noted that the ultimate decision regarding the improvements
would be with CalTrans and Federal Highway Administration.
Vice Chairman O'Neal noted the impact it could have on the businesses in the immediate area.
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Chairman LaPere addressed ownership of the hotel.
Mr. Trivedi stated that the hotel was a franchise. He stated that his development team had done
several studies to address the impacts the hotel would have on the area. He stated that the project
would benefit the City and the residents.
Chairman LaPere noted his support for the design of the project. He addressed the traffic
generated from usage of the meeting room. He indicated that he had not experienced truckers
utilizing the Holiday Inn Express, and if there were trucks parked in the area Code Enforcement
would take care of it. He acknowledged the concerns of the residents and stated that the zone
was Commercial, which allowed the proposed use. He stated that the project would be an asset
to the community.
Commissioner Gonzales addressed the pillars and asked if they were intended for the sign.
Mr. Bike stated that they were for the sign.
Chairman LaPere reiterated that the action taken by the Commission was for Site 1 only, not to
include Site 2.
There being no further business, Chairman LaPere closed the Public Hearing at 7:02 p.m.
Community Development Director Preisendanz requested a ten minute recess.
Chairman LaPere recessed the meeting at 7:03 p.m.
Chairman LaPere reconvened the meeting at 7: 13 p.m.
MOVED BY O'NEAL, SECONDED BY LAPERE AND
PASSED BY A VOTE OF 3-2, WITH FRANCIA AND
GONZALES VOTING AGAINST, APPROVING
RESOLUTION NO. 2005-141, A RESOLUTION OF THE
PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF LAKE
ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA, APPROVING CONDITIONAL
USE PERMIT NO. 2005-15 FOR THE ALLOWANCE OF
HOTELS AS A CONDITIONALLY PERMITTED USE ON
TWO PARCELS AND TO ESTABLISH AND OPERATE A
HOTEL FACILITY ON ONE PARCEL WITHIN THE
NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL (C-lISP) ZONING
DISTRICT OF THE CANYON CREEK "SUMMERHILL"
SPECIFIC PLAN.
MOVED BY O'NEAL, SECONDED BY LARIMER AND
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PASSED BY A VOTE OF 3-2, WITH FRANCIA AND
GONZALES VOTING AGAINST, APPROVING
RESOLUTION NO. 2005-142, A RESOLUTION OF THE
PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF LAKE
ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA, APPROVING CONDITIONAL
USE PERMIT NO. 2005-22 TO INCREASE THE MAXIMUM
ALLOWABLE FLOOR AREA RATIO AND THE
MAXIMUM BUILDING HEIGHT ON TWO SITES WITHIN
THE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL (C-l/SP) ZONING
DISTRICT OF THE CANYON CREEK "SUMMERHILL"
SPECIFIC PLAN.
MOVED BY O'NEAL, SECONDED BY LARIMER AND
PASSED BY A VOTE OF 3-2, WITH FRANCIA AND
GONZALES VOTING AGAINST, APPROVING
RESOLUTION NO. 2005-143, A RESOLUTION OF THE
PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF LAKE
ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA, RECOMMENDING TO THE
CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
APPROVAL OF COMMERCIAL DESIGN REVIEW NO.
2005-06 FOR A HOLIDAY INN EXPRESS HOTEL
FACILITY LOCATED AT 31573 CANYON ESTATES
DRIVE WITHIN THE CANYON CREEK "SUMMERHILL"
SPECIFIC PLAN, APN's 363-670-006,007.
BUSINESS ITEMS
None
INFORMATIONAL
NONE
STAFF COMMENTS
Community Development Director Preisendanz announced the Joint Study Session with the City
Council, Planning Commission and Mooney Jones & Stokes to present the land use plan
alternatives for the General Plan Update. He indicated that the discussion would include the
proposed land use and traffic analysis. He stated that a Notice of Preparation was sent to various
agencies announcing the General Plan Update.
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PLANNING COMMISSIONER COMMENTS
Commissioner Francia commented on the following:
. Commended the graffiti removal team for their expeditious removal of graffiti on
Canyon Estates Drive;
. Thanked staff for their efforts.
Commissioner Larimer commented on the following:
. Wished everyone a Happy Thanksgiving;
· Stated that she was proud to be a member of a diverse Planning Commission.
Commissioner Gonzales commented on the following:
. Stated that he liked the Hotel, and acknowledged the issues
Vice Chairman O'Neal commented on the following:
. No comment.
Chairman LaPere commented on the following:
. Thanked staff for their efforts
. Wished everyone a Happy Thanksgiving.
ADJOURNMENT
THERE BEING NO FURTHER BUSINESS, CH IRMAN LAPERE ADJOURNED
THE MEETING AT 7:25 PM ON NOVEMBER ,2 05.
Respectfully Submitted,
~lJt,' C. (}J-f ~.r;
Lisa C. Alexen
Office Specialist III
Agenda Item No.
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ATTEST:
f)n11-
Rolfe Preisendanz,
Director of Community Development
Agenda Item No.
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-
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
183 NORTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CA 92530
TUESDAY, DECEMBER 6, 2005
CALL TO ORDER:
Chairman LaPere called the Regular Planning Commission Meeting to order at 6:05 PM.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE:
Vice Chairman O'Neal led the Pledge Of Allegiance.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: COMMISSIONERS:
LAPERE,
LARIMER
O'NEAL,
GONZALES,
ABSENT:
COMMISSIONERS:
FRANCIA
Also present were: Community Development Director Preisendanz, Deputy City
Attorney Miles, Engineering Manager Seumalo, Associate Planner Coury, Associate Planner
Miller, Associate Planner Resendiz, Planning Consultant Donahoe and Office Specialist
Alexen.
PUBLIC COMMENTS (Non-Al!endized items)
Tim Fleming, 17970 Lakeshore Dr., provided the Commissioners with a Lake Stabilization
and Land Use Plan map of the flood plain to address flooding issues. He noted the proposed
development in the back basin and stated his concerns with future flooding.
Donna Franson, Lake Elsinore Citizens Committee, 7 Villa Valtelena, noted her quarterly
newsletter reaches 6100 residents in Lake Elsinore. She provided an overview of the
contents of the newsletter.
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CONSENT CALENDAR
Chairman LaPere pulled Item No.3 from the Consent Calendar for further discussion.
1. Minutes
a. Regular Planning Commission Minutes of November 15,2005
MOVED BY O'NEAL, SECONDED BY GONZALES
AND PASSED BY A VOTE OF 4-0, TO APPROVE THE
BALANCE OF THE CONSENT CALENDAR.
Chairman LaPere requested Deputy City Attorney Miles inform the Commissioners of the
potential conflicts associated with Item NO.3, Minor Design Review of a Single Family
Residence located at 16772 Holborow.
Deputy City Attorney Miles noted that due to a conflict of interest in a political format, in
accordance with Title 2 of the California Code of Regulations, Section 18.700, due to a
potential material financial interest due to real property, Chairman LaPere, Vice Chairman
O'Neal and Commissioner Gonzales must recuse themselves from taking action on the
matter. He further noted that the Political Reform Act states that a conflict of interest is
disqualifying if the public officials participation is not legally required. He stated that the
absent and recused Commissioners left only one Commissioner to vote on the item, however
at least three Commissioners constitute a quorum. He entertained a motion to continue the
item to a future date certain. He explained that the next meeting will most likely have two
non-conflicting Commissioners and will remain with three conflicted Commissioners, at
which point in time, the rule of necessity will apply and will draw lots from the conflicted
Commissioners to get the third vote to constitute a quorum.
MOVED BY O'NEAL, SECONDED BY GONZALES
AND PASSED BY A VOTE OF 4-0, TO CONTINUE
MINOR DESIGN REVIEW OF A SINGLE FAMILY
RESIDENCE LOCATED AT 16772 HOLBOROW TO
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING ON DECEMBER
20, 2005.
Chairman LaPere stated that during a Joint Study Session with the City Council and the
General Plan Consultant Mooney, Jones & Stokes, it was suggested that new projects be
included in future GP AC meetings to keep all parties informed.
Community Development Director Preisendanz Preisendanz confirmed.
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PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS
5. General Plan Amendment No. 2005-07.Amendment No.8 to the East Lake
Specific Plan No. 93-3. Supplemental Environmental Impact Report (SCH No.
2005061033). and Vestine: Tentative Tract Map No. 34017
Chairman LaPere opened the Public Hearing at 6: 15 p.m.
Community Development Director Preisendanz provided a brief overview of the project and
requested Planning Consultant Donahoe review it with the Commission and answer
questions.
Planning Consultant Donahoe stated that Lumos Communities was proposing the Waterbury
project. She indicated that it was part of the Eastlake Specific Plan originally approved in
1993. She noted that the Eastlake Specific Plan had been amended several times and this
was Amendment No.8. She noted the John Laing Homes project brought before the
Commission recently, which was Eastlake Specific Plan Amendment (SPA) No.6. She
noted that the approval of SPA No.6 changed many things in the recreation village district.
She indicated that approval of SPA 8 would extend the alignment of Diamond Drive to
Corydon and Interstate 15 through Bundy Canyon Rd., as indicated in SPA 7. She noted that
SPA 8 proposed to reduce the number of dwelling units from 2,255 units to 1796; eliminate
the four acres of commercial uses and increase the amount of open space acreage from 87.8
to 197.8 acres. She indicated that the applicant intended to use the additional open space as
active recreation and has allowed, by CUP, the possibility of Skylark to continue their
operations at that location and the motocross park to possibly apply for a CUP and continue
their operation.
She addressed the alignment of Bundy Canyon Rd. and stated that staff met with Riverside
County several times. She indicated that the County emphasized that Dejong Dairy Farm
was not a possible route to 1-15. She noted the alternative plan incorporated into the project.
She stated that staff received a letter from the County at 5:00 p.m. today asking that the
offsite improvements in the County be constructed, which were included in the mitigation
measures applied in the supplemental EIR. She addressed a second letter staff received late
today from Mr. Slavick requesting that the project approval wait until after the General Plan
Update.
Leonard Leichnitz, Lumos Communities, thanked staff and noted the issues pertaining to the
proposed project. He provided a brief overview ofthe history ofthe proposed project. He
stated that over the course of the planning of the project, he met with the members of the
community several times in order to consider their concerns with the project. He provided an
overview of the layout design of the project and additional amenities. He addressed a letter
he received from the Pechanga Tribe stating their requirement for Lumos to sign a pre-
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excavation agreement. He indicated that the agreement will be signed by all parties. He
addressed Condition No.'s 7 and 51 which required Lumos to comply with all conditions of
approval for all of the amendments of the Eastlake Specific Plan. He stated that those
specific plans do not pertain to the subject property. He requested striking the word
"amendment" from those conditions.
Chairman LaPere clarified if a condition was included addressing the agreement with the
Pechanga Tribe.
Carole stated that the City did not require the applicant to enter into an agreement with the
Pechanga Tribe. She stated that the mitigation measure adequately mitigates cultural
resources.
Deputy City Attorney Miles provided an overview of the requirement of the condition
regarding the cultural monitor. He noted that the agreement was similar to the subsequent
regulatory permits achieved by the developer; therefore it would not be appropriate to build
in a pre-excavation agreement into the Conditions of Approval.
Chairman LaPere addressed Condition No.'s 7 and 51. He clarified that if the condition did
not pertain to the site, it would not affect the project, therefore the language should remain.
Mr. Leichnitz agreed to the staff report and remaining conditions of approval.
Tim Fleming, 17970 Lakeshore Dr. noted his concerns with residential housing in the flood
plain and the road width.
Carl Gulledge, 20201 Cereal St., representative of Skylark Airport noted his support of the
project and stated that his meetings with Mr. Leichnitz were positive.
Randy Hiner, 43355 San Fermin, Temecula, representative of Lake Elsinore Motocross noted
his support for the project.
Chris Hyland, Wavecrest Dr., stated that she did not support the project due to the potential
for flooding.
Kris Kakkar, 41196 Van Tu Lane, Temecula, noted his support for the project.
Michael Odegaard, 20401 SW Birch St. #200, Costa Mesa, stated he was the architect for the
project.
Michael Slavick, 12646 Sora Way, San Diego, property owner of lake edge area. He
requested that the Commission delay approval of the project until after the General Plan
Update.
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Leonard Leichnitz addressed the comments made by the residents.
Commissioner Gonzales noted his support for the project design, but did not approve of the
location in the flood plain, due to historical flooding. He addressed traffic and stated that the
school district would not place a school in the flood plain. He addressed the noise factor at
the location.
Commissioner Larimer stated her support for the recreational opportunities provided. She
noted her support for the design and amenities ofthe project. She agreed with Commissioner
Gonzales regarding the noise potential and the flooding issue.
Vice Chairman O'Neal addressed the flooding issue and clarified that the building would be
done above the flood plain.
Mr. Leichnitz provided an explanation as to the grading plan and the effects it had on the
land. He indicated that the area would be built up to 1,267 feet and 1,265 feet for the
recreational areas, which would accommodate the flooding. He noted a letter required from
the jurisdictional agencies confirming that the property is no longer considered a flood plain.
At that time he can start building. He noted his desire to balance residential and recreational
uses.
Vice Chairman O'Neal addressed the architecture and noted that the styles shown are
examples of styles, however may not be the same style presented at design review. He stated
his support for the styles presented and expressed his desire to see the same design style at
design review. He noted his desire for a density of 14 rather than 16 units per acre for the
benefit of traffic mitigation. He stated his support for the engineering of the project to avoid
flooding issues.
Commissioner Gonzales clarified if the land would be raised to 1,267 feet. He addressed the
natural flow of the water down Grape St.
Mr. Leichnitz noted the flood storage area engineered by the proposed underground storm
drain system.
Vice Chairman O'Neal addressed reducing the density to 14 units per acre.
Chairman LaPere noted his support for the relocation of the recreation facilities, the
increased open space area and the architectural designs. He further supported the storage
capacity for flood waters. He stated his support for the project.
Mr. Leichnitz agreed to reduce the density with a condition of approval to state 1,669 target
dwelling units.
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Commissioner Larimer addressed the architecture and garage placement.
Mr. Odegaard stated that would be addressed at design review.
There was further discussion addressing the architectural style.
Mr. Leichnitz provided an explanation as to the method in which the target dwelling units
would be reduced.
Chairman LaPere addressed condition no.'s 7 and 51 regarding the conditions of approval for
past amendments of the Eastlake Specific Plan.
Deputy City Attorney Miles suggested that since there are a large number of conditions to be
considered in the previous amendments, the City would determine if and when certain
conditions apply to this project. He read Condition No.7 to read, "Conditions of Approval
for Amendment No.8 to the East Lake Specific Plan No. 93-3, and Conditions of Approval
for previous amendments and the original specific plan that pertain to this site, as
determined by the Community Development Director, shall apply to Vesting Tentative Tract
Map No. 34017."
Mr. Leichnitz agreed to the Condition as read by Mr. Miles.
There being no further business, Chairman LaPere closed the Public Hearing at 7:26 p.m.
MOVED BY O'NEAL, SECONDED BY LAPERE, AND
VOTED 2 - 2, NO ACTION WAS TAKEN ON
RESOLUTION NO. 2005-146, A RESOLUTION OF THE
PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF LAKE
ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA, RECOMMENDING TO THE
CITY COUNCIL ADOPTION OF FINDINGS OF
CONSISTENCY WITH THE MUL TI-SPECIES
HABITAT CONSERVATION PLAN (MSHCP) FOR THE
PROJECT KNOWN AS GENERAL PLAN
AMENDMENT NO. 2005-07, AMENDMENT NO. 8 TO
THE EAST LAKE SPECIFIC PLAN NO. 93-3, AND
VESTING TENTATIVE TRACT MAP NO. 34017,
LOCATED SOUTH OF MISSION TRAIL, WEST OF
CORYDON STREET, NORTH OF COMO STREET AND
EAST OF THE PROPOSED JOHN LAING HOMES
PROJECT, AND KNOWN AS ASSESSOR'S PARCEL
NOS. 370-020-003; 370-030-004, -006, AND -012; 370-040-
036 THRU -038; 370-0700-001, -002, -004 THRU -006,
AND -010; 370-080-009 AND -010.
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MOVED BY O'NEAL, SECONDED BY LAPERE, AND
VOTED 2 - 2, NO ACTION WAS TAKEN ON
RESOLUTION NO. 2005-147, A RESOLUTION OF THE
PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF LAKE
ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA, RECOMMENDING TO THE
CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
CERTIFICATION OF THE FINAL SUPPLEMENTAL
ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT REPORT FOR GENERAL
PLAN AMENDMENT NO. 2005-07 AND AMENDMENT
NO.8 TO THE EAST LAKE SPECIFIC PLAN NO. 93-3
(SCH#2005061033).
MOVED BY O'NEAL, SECONDED BY LAPERE, AND
VOTED 2 - 2, NO ACTION WAS TAKEN ON
RESOLUTION NO. 2005-148, A RESOLUTION OF THE
PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF LAKE
ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA, RECOMMENDING TO THE
CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
APPROVAL OF GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT NO.
2005-07, CHANGING THE GENERAL PLAN
CIRCULATION ELEMENT ALIGNMENT OF BUNDY
CANYON ROAD AND THE CLASSIFICATION OF
BUNDY CANYON ROAD, FROM "URBAN ARTERIAL"
TO "MODIFIED MAJOR" THROUGH THE EAST
LAKE SPECIFIC PLAN AMENDMENT #8 AREA.
MOVED BY O'NEAL, SECONDED BY LAPERE AND
PASSED BY A VOTE OF 4-0, TO APPROVE
RESOLUTION NO. 2005-150, A RESOLUTION OF THE
PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF LAKE
ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA, RECOMMENDING TO THE
CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
APPROVAL OF VESTING TENTATIVE TRACT MAP
NO. 34017, A SUBDIVISION OF 611 SINGLE FAMILY
RESIDENTIAL LOTS, FOUR LOTS FOR R-3
RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT, A RECREATION
CENTER, AND SIX OPEN SPACE LOTS, ON
APPROXIMATELY 396.4:t ACRES LOCATED SOUTH
OF MISSION TRAIL, WEST OF CORYDON STREET,
NORTH OF COMO STREET AND EAST OF THE
PROPOSED JOHN LAING HOMES PROJECT, AND
KNOWN AS ASSESSOR'S PARCEL NOS. 370-020-003;
370-030-004, -006, AND -012; 370-040-036 THRU -038;
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370-0700-001, -002, -004 THRU -006, AND -010; 370-080-
009 AND -010.
Chairman LaPere recessed the meeting at 7:45 p.m.
Chairman LaPere reconvened the meeting at 7:50 p.m.
3. Conditional Use Permit No(s). 2005-15 & 2005-22 & Commercial Desie:n
Review No. 2005-06.
Chairman LaPere opened the Public Hearing at 7:50 p.m.
Community Development Director Preisendanz provided a brief overview of the project and
requested Associate Planner Coury review it with the Commission and answer questions.
Associate Planner Coury provided an overview of the proposed project. He noted that the
project had been continued from the November 1 st Planning Commission Meeting in order to
address issues due to the possible negative impacts of the Conditional Use Permit. He
provided a description of the project design and layout. He noted that a lighting plan was
required from the applicant prior to issuance of a building permit. He further addressed
additional negative impacts due to noise and traffic. He referenced the site plan to identify
the measures taken to address those issues. He addressed the variance requested to allow for
the reduction of the 25' average and 15' minimum parking and landscaping setback
requirements along Auto Center Drive and Avenue 12. He detailed the existing setbacks for
the project and noted that an existing slope restricts the building pad location.
Erik Marcussen, Ground Floor Design, 18025 Sky Park Cl. Ste. K, Irvine, architect for Lake
Elsinore Ford, acknowledged staffs efforts with regard to the project. He noted the previous
location of Lake Elsinore Ford and stated that due to the success of the dealership, the growth
needs to be accommodated with a larger facility. He addressed the lighting and the impacts
to the surrounding properties. He stated his desire to be consistent with the commercial
properties in the area. He agreed with the staff report and Conditions of Approval.
Tim Fleming, 17970 Lakeshore Dr., addressed the proposed variance.
Vice Chairman O'Neal addressed employee parking.
Mr. Marcussen indicated that there would be adequate parking for employees and the public.
Vice Chairman O'Neal clarified ifthe storage would remain in the present location
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Jeff Freestead, Del Mar, President of Lake Elsinore Ford, stated that the storage would
remain at the present location.
Vice Chairman O'Neal stated his support for the project.
Commissioner Gonzales noted his concern with the variance and addressed the number of
lanes on Auto Center Drive.
Engineering Manager stated that Auto Center Driver consisted of two lanes. He detailed the
curb line and road width of Auto Center Drive.
Commissioner Larimer noted her concern with the variance. She stated her support for the
project.
Chairman LaPere confirmed adequate parking.
Associate Planner Coury noted that the code required the project to provide 365 parking
spaces, and the proposed project site included 687 parking spaces.
MOVED BY O'NEAL, SECONDED BY GONZALES
AND PASSED BY A VOTE OF 4-0, TO APPROVE
RESOLUTION NO. 2005-151, A RESOLUTION OF THE
PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF LAKE
ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA, RECOMMENDING TO THE
CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
APPROVAL OF MITIGATED NEGATIVE
DECLARATION NO. 2005-06
MOVED BY GONZALES, SECONDED BY
LARIMER AND PASSED BY A VOTE OF 4-0, TO
APPROVE RESOLUTION NO. 2005-152, A
RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION
OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA,
RECOMMENDING TO THE CITY COUNCIL
ADOPTION OF FINDINGS OF CONSISTENCY
WITH SECTION 6.1.2 OF THE MULTIPLE SPECIES
HABITAT CONSERVATION PLAN (MSHCP) FOR
THE PROJECT IDENTIFIED AS LAKE ELSINORE
FORD
MOVED BY GONZALES, SECONDED BY LARIMER
AND PASSED BY A VOTE OF 4-0, TO APPROVE
RESOLUTION NO. 2005-153, A RESOLUTION OF THE
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PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF LAKE
ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA, RECOMMENDING CITY
COUNCIL APPROVAL OF COMMERCIAL DESIGN
REVIEW NO. 2005-02 FOR THE DESIGN,
CONSTRUCTION AND ESTABLISHMENT OF THE
"LAKE ELSINORE FORD" AUTOMOBILE
DEALERSHIP, TO BE LOCATED AT THE
SOUTHWEST CORNER OF AUTO CENTER DRIVE
AND AVENUE 12
MOVED BY GONZALES, SECONDED BY O'NEAL
AND PASSED BY A VOTE OF 4-0, TO APPROVE
RESOLUTION NO. 2005-154, A RESOLUTION OF THE
PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF LAKE
ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA, APPROVING
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 2005-06 FOR THE
ESTABLISHMENT OF THE "LAKE ELSINORE FORD"
AUTOMOBILE DEALERSHIP TO BE LOCATED AT
THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF AUTO CENTER
DRIVE AND AVENUE 12.
MOVED BY O'NEAL, SECONDED BY GONZALES
AND PASSED BY A VOTE OF 4-0, TO APPROVE
RESOLUTION NO. 2005-155, A RESOLUTION OF THE
PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF LAKE
ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA, APPROVING VARIANCE
NO. 2005-03 FOR PROPERTY LOCATED AT THE
SOUTHWEST CORNER OF AUTO CENTER DRIVE
AND AVENUE 12
BUSINESS ITEMS
None
INFORMATIONAL
Community Development Director Preisendanz announced a GP AC meeting scheduled for
December 19th, 3:00 p.m. at the Cultural Center.
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STAFF COMMENTS
Community Development Director Preisendanz introduced Community Development
Technician Sonia Salazar.
PLANNING COMMISSIONER COMMENTS
Vice Chairman O'Neal commented on the following:
. Welcomed Community Development Technician Sonia Salazar;
. Addressed the mobile home on wheels located on Bond and Sannelle;
. Addressed two mobile homes on Gunnerson.
Community Development Director Preisendanz indicated that he would follow up on the
homes and noted perk problems.
Commissioner Gonzales commented on the following:
. Stated that he enjoyed the City Christmas Party;
. Welcomed Community Development Technician Sonia Salazar.
Commissioner Larimer commented on the following:
. Requested a quarterly report for approved projects.
There was discussion regarding the development on Hwy. 74 and the comer ofHwy 74 and
Collier Ave. There was further discussion regarding completed project notification.
Chairman LaPere commented on the following:
. Welcomed Community Development Technician Sonia Salazar;
. Thanked staff for their efforts.
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ADJOURNMENT
THERE BEING NO FURTHER BUSINESS, CHAIRMAN LAPERE
ADJOURNED THE MEETING AT 8:25 PM ON DECEMBER 6,2005.
Ron LaPere, Chfi: ~-
Respectfully Submitted,
L~~e~ ~
Office Specialist III
ATTEST:
(mJL
Rolfe Preisendanz,
Director of Community Development
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MINUTES
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
183 NORTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CA 92530
TUESDAY, DECEMBER 20, 2005
CALL TO ORDER:
Chairman LaPere called the Regular Planning Commission Meeting to order at 6:05 PM.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE:
Engineering Manager Seumalo led the Pledge Of Allegiance.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: COMMISSIONERS:
LAPERE,
LARIMER
O'NEAL,
GONZALES,
ABSENT:
COMMISSIONERS:
Also present were: Engineering Manager Seumalo, Deputy City Attorney Miles, Project
Planner Miller, Associate Planner Resendiz, and Office Specialist Alexen.
NOMINATIONS FOR CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR
Chairman LaPere stated that he did not wish to be considered for Chairman of the Planning
Commission because it could conflict with his campaign for City Councilman in the
upcoming City Council Election.
MOVED BY LAPERE, SECONDED BY LARIMER
AND PASSED BY A VOTE OF 4-0 TO ELECT
O'NEAL AS CHAIRMAN OF THE PLANNING
COMMISSION.
MOVED BY GONZALES, SECONDED BY O'NEAL
AND PASSED BY A VOTE OF 4-0 TO ELECT
LARIMER AS VICE CHAIRMAN OF THE
PLANNING COMMISSION.
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PUBLIC COMMENTS (Non-Al!endized items)
Bill Dixon, Kimberly Court, presented information to the Commissioners regarding the Lake
Elsinore Municipal Code for pubic hearing notices and California Code Section No. 65091 to
65094 addressing noticing requirements. He addressed the Holiday Inn Express project and
the posted notice on the project site.
Tim Fleming, 17970 Lakeshore Dr., Lake Elsinore, requested that Items 4, 5, 6 and 7 pulled
from the agenda due to the absence of the address or parcel numbers on the agenda cover
sheet.
CONSENT CALENDAR
Chairman O'Neal pulled Items 2, 4 and 5.
Vice Chairman Larimer requested a correction in the minutes on page 11 of 12 to reflect
completed projects; and added the word completed to her comments on page 11 of 12.
3. Minor Desil!n Review of a Sinl!le Familv Residence located at 17157 Shrier
Drive: (APN 378-157-001 & 002)
MOVED BY LAPERE, SECONDED BY LARIMER
AND PASSED BY A VOTE OF 4-0 TO APPROVE
THE BALANCE OF THE CONSENT CALENDAR
AND THE MODIFICATION TO THE MINUTES.
2. Minor Desil!n Review of a Sinl!le Familv Residence located at 16772 Holborow-
APN 378-261-035
Deputy City Attorney Miles stated that the Commission could not establish a quorum due to
requirements of the Political Reform Act. He indicated that the Commissioners would draw
straws in order to remove a conflicted Commissioner from the vote. He noted that due to the
resignation of a Planning Commissioner, the number of conflicted Commissioners is three
out of four. He presented four straws and proceeded to allow the Commissioners to draw
straws. Chairman O'Neal drew the shortest straw and recused himself from the room to
allow the remaining Commissioners to vote.
Commissioner Gonzales clarified that the conflict was that three of the Commissioners
resided within five hundred feet of the proposed project.
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Engineering Manager Seumalo provided a brief overview of the proposed project and
requested Project Planner Miller review it with the Commission and answer questions.
Project Planner Miller provided a description of the project location and architecture of the
proposed single family residence.
Corey Roberts, Structural Consultants, 3240 Wickham Dr, Riverside, agreed with the
Conditions of Approval.
Commissioner Gonzales noted his support for the project.
Commissioner LaPere stated his support for the project and addressed landscaping.
Vice Chairman Larimer stated that she had no problem with the project and no questions.
MOVED BY GONZALES, SECONDED BY LAPERE
AND PASSED BY A VOTE OF 3-0, TO APPROVE
RESOLUTION NO. 2005-156, A RESOLUTION OF THE
PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF LAKE
ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA, APPROVING MINOR
DESIGN REVIEW FOR A SINGLE FAMILY
RESIDENCE LOCATED ON HOLBOROW AVENUE -
APN 378-261-035
Chairman O'Neal returned to the meeting at 6:22 p.m.
4. Minor Deshm Review for the develooment of a conventionally built 2 story sine:le-
family residence and a detached one stOry. second unit.
Engineering Manager Seumalo provided a brief overview of the proposed project and
requested Associate Planner Resendiz review it with the Commission and answer questions.
Associate Planner Resendiz provided an overview of the design and architecture of the
project.
Phil McElroy, 16109 Grand Ave., agreed with the Conditions of Approval.
Roger Owen, 15060 Lagaye St., requested clarification of the use of the proposed second
unit.
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Mike Priske, 15015 Lagaye St., indicated that he had attempted to add a second unit on his
property in the past and was denied. He requested that the City require the applicant attach
the second unit to the existing residence.
Lelanda Reagan, 15061 Lagaye St. indicated that she had attempted to add a second unit to
her property in 2003 and was required by the City to attach it to the existing residence. She
stated her opposition to the project.
Nancy Roberts, 15049 Lagaye St., noted that the site was zoned to allow one dwelling unit
per acre when she purchased it in 1980. She noted her opposition to the proposed project.
Deputy City Attorney Miles noted that Assembly Bill 1866 required the City to adopt an
Ordinance in 2003 to allow a second dwelling unit in a residentially zoned area. He
indicated that the City could not conflict with that law.
Commissioner LaPere requested clarification ofthe non-rental covenant.
Deputy City Attorney Miles addressed the area residents concern that rental properties could
change the characteristics of the property. He stated that enforcing a non-rental covenant
was the exception to the rule that a property owner has the right to rent their property. He
indicated that AB 1866 did not include a prohibition on renting. He noted that the
predominant unit on the property was required to be occupied by the record owner of the
parcel.
Commissioner LaPere addressed the occupancy of the second unit.
Mr. McElroy stated that his parents intended to occupy the second unit. He stated that he had
no plan to rent it out.
There was discussion regarding the possibility of attaching the unit.
Vice Chairman Larimer addressed the ability of the area residents building a detached second
unit.
City Attorney Miles stated that every unit in a residential zone has the right to build a second
unit if it met with the code requirements.
Vice Chairman Larimer clarified the lot sizes on Lagaye S1. She noted that it was
unfortunate that the area residents were denied the ability to construct a second unit on their
property in the past. She stated her support for the project.
Commissioner Gonzales noted that a second unit could be attached on the opposite side of
the garage.
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Chairman O'Neal addressed private property rights.
MOVED BY GONZALES, SECONDED BY LARIMER
AND PASSED BY A VOTE OF 3-1, WITH LAPERE
CASTING THE OPPOSING VOTE, TO APPROVE
RESOLUTION NO. 2005-157, A RESOLUTION OF THE
PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF LAKE
ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA, APPROVING A MINOR
DESIGN REVIEW OF A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE
LOCATED ON LAGAYE STREET, REFRRED AS APN
379-140-084.
5. Minor Desie:n Review No. 2005-08
Engineering Manager Seumalo provided a brief overview of the proposed project and
requested Project Planner Miller review it with the Commission and answer questions.
Project Planner Miller provided an overview of the location and architectural design of the
proposed duplex.
Daniel Lopez, Tulia Properties, LLC, 136 San Marcos Place, Chula Vista, stated that he read
and agreed with the Conditions of Approval.
Vice Chairman Larimer had no comment.
Project Planner Miller noted that a letter submitted by a resident addressing noise and safety
concerns was received earlier in the day and copies were given to the Commissioners prior to
the Call to Order.
Commissioner Gonzales addressed the noise. He noted his concern with the building area
using two percent over the maximum allowable building area.
Daniel Lopez indicated that the oversized garage caused the building area to exceed the
maximum allowable. He stated that the larger garage would provide storage area.
Commissioner LaPere agreed with staff's recommendation.
Chairman O'Neal stated that he did Hot support the Sfllit. Chairman O'Neal stated that he did
not like the split (Corrected at the Planning Commission Meeting on January 17, 2006)
MOVED BY LAPERE, SECONDED BY LARIMER AND
PASSED BY A VOTE OF 3-1, WITH GONZALES
CASTING THE OPPOSING VOTE, TO APPROVE
Agenda Item No.
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RESOLUTION NO. 2005-158, A RESOLUTION OF THE
PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF LAKE
ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA, APPROVING OF MINOR
DESIGN REVIEW FOR THE CONSTRUCTION AND
ESTABLISHMENT OF A DUPLEX (2 UNITS)
LOCATED ON HEALD STREET
PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS
6. Mitie:ated Nee:ative Declaration No. 2005-05. Zone Chane:e No. 2005-02. and
Tentative Tract Map No. 33486
Chairman O'Neal opened the Public Hearing at 6:57 p.m.
Engineering Manager Seumalo provided a brief overview of the proposed project and
requested Project Planner Miller review it with the Commission and answer questions.
Project Planner Miller stated that staff recommended continuing the item to January I ih, to
complete the mandatory Mitigated Negative Declaration.
MOVED BY LAPERE, SECONDED BY GONZALES
AND PASSED BY A VOTE OF 4-0 TO CONTINUE
MITIGATED NEGATIVE DECLARATION NO. 2005-
05, ZONE CHANGE NO. 2005-02, AND TENTATIVE
TRACT MAP NO. 33486 TO JANUARY 17, 2006.
There being no further business, Chairman O'Neal closed the Public Hearing at 6:58 p.m.
7. Industrial Desie:n Review No. 2005-01
Chairman O'Neal opened the Public Hearing at 6:58:15 p.m.
Engineering Manager Seumalo provided a brief overview of the proposed project and
requested Project Planner Miller review it with the Commission and answer questions.
Project Planner Miller provided a description of the project location and building sizes. She
noted that the applicant provided a general biological resource assessment to comply with the
requirements of the MSHCP, which reported no habitat in the area
Mike Mueller, 2606 Viodar Circle, Pasadena, addressed Condition No. 11 regarding walls
and fences. He requested clarification of Condition No. 22 on page 14 of 35 regarding the
SIgn program.
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Commissioner Gonzales indicated that the site was next to the Outlet Channel.
Engineering Manager Seumalo indicated that FEMA maps were reviewed for the hundred
year flood elevation.
Commissioner Gonzales suggested waterless urinals for water conservation.
Vice Chairman Larimer had no problem with the design of the project.
Commissioner LaPere addressed Condition No. 22. He clarified the sign program approval
prior to issuance of building permit.
There was discussion regarding the sign program approval prior to Certificate of Occupancy.
Deputy City Attorney Miles revised Condition No. 22 to read, The applicant shall submit a
Sing Program for Planning Commission approval and record a Notice of Completion prior
to the issuance of the first building permit. Prior to the issuance of a Certificate of
Occupancy, the Planning Commission shall approve the sign program.
Commissioner LaPere stated his support for the project.
There being no further business, Chairman O'Neal closed the Public Hearing at 7:09 p.m.
MOVED BY LAPERE, SECONDED BY GONZALES
AND PASSED BY A VOTE OF 4-0, TO APPROVE
RESOLUTION NO. 2005-159, A RESOLUTION OF
THE PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA,
RECOMMENDING CITY COUNCIL ADOPTION OF
FINDINGS OF CONSISTENCY WITH SECTION 6.0
OF THE MULTIPLE SPECIES HABITAT
CONSERVATION PLAN (MSHCP) FOR THE
PROJCT KNOWN AS INDUSTRIAL DESIGN
REVIEW NO. 2005-01 TO BE LOCATED ON
PASADENA STREET
MOVED BY GONZALES, SECONDED BY LARIMER
AND PASSED BY A VOTE OF 4-0, TO APPROVE
RESOLUTION NO. 2005-160, A RESOLUTION OF THE
PLANNING COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF LAKE
ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA, RECOMMENDING CITY
COUNCIL APPROVAL OF INDUSTRIAL DESIGN
REVIEW NO. 2005-01, TO BE LOCATED ON
PASADENA STREET
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BUSINESS ITEMS
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INFORMATIONAL
Engineering Manager Seumalo announced the following:
. GPAC meeting was scheduled on January 9, 2006 at 3:00 p.m. at the Cultural Center;
. Joint Study Session on January 19, 2006 at 4:00 p.m. for GPAC at the Cultural
Center.
STAFF COMMENTS
Engineering Manager Seumalo commented on the following:
. Traffic Engineer Chuck Mackey's retirement lunch
. Ed Basubas will assume Chuck's responsibilities;
. Thanked LaPere for his leadership as prior Chairman
. Congratulated O'Neal and Larimer for their appointments
. Wished everyone a Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.
PLANNING COMMISSIONER COMMENTS
Vice Chairman Larimer commented on the following:
. Sorry to see Francia resign;
. Commended LaPere for the job he did as Chairman;
. Thanked the Commission for the Vice Chairman appointment;
. Congratulated O'Neal as Chairman;
. Encouraged the Commission to attend a forum at Riverside County Office on Aging
on February 22nd;
. Addressed housing for special needs;
. Wished everyone a Merry Christmas.
Commissioner Gonzales commented on the following:
. Thanked the Commission for an enjoyable first year as Commissioner;
. Addressed the projects presented at the most recent GP AC meeting.
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Commissioner LaPere commented on the following:
. Congratulated O'Neal and Larimer on their appointments;
. Stated that he was running for City Council and asked for support;
. Thanked staff;
. Wished everyone a Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.
Chairman O'Neal commented on the following:
. Commended LaPere as Chairman;
. Requested an agenda item to allow infill projects to be approved administratively,
except commercial and Country Club Heights projects;
. Requested a report on the manufactured homes mentioned at the prior meeting;
. Addressed the addresses on the agenda cover sheet;
. Wished everyone a Happy Holiday.
ADJOURNMENT
THERE BEING NO FURTHER BUSINESS, CHAIRMAN O'NEAL ADJOURNED
THE MEETING AT 7:22 PM ON DECEMBER 6,2005.
Respectfully Submitted,
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Lisa C. Alexen
Office Specialist III
ATTEST:
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Rolfe Preisendanz,
Director of Community Development
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