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MINUTES
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
183 NORTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CA 92530
TUESDAY, JUNE 16, 2009
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CALL TO ORDER
Chairman Zanelli called the meeting to order at 6:01 p.m.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
Vice-Chairman Flores led the Pledge of Allegiance.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: CHAIRMAN ZANELLI
VICE-CHAIRMAN FLORES
COMMISSIONER GONZALES
COMMISSIONER MENDOZA
COMMISSIONER O'NEAL
ABSENT: NONE
STAFF PRESENT
Also present were: Acting Community Development Director Weiner, Deputy City
Attorney Winterswyk, Public Works Director/City Engineer Seumalo, Senior Planner
Harris, Planning Consultant Coury, Associate Planner Resendiz, and Office Specialist
Porch6.
PUBLIC COMMENTS
Gerardo Cuadra, resident of Lake Elsinore advised the Commission that he recently
purchased a new home in Lake Elsinore and requested the Commission to advise him
of the correct procedures for installing a septic tank since the sewer line is over 670 feet
away.
Acting Community Development Director Weiner advised Mr. Cuadra that he could
discuss the matter with him in order to provide more information of the location in
question.
CONSENT CALENDAR ITEM(S)
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CONSENT CALENDAR ITEM(S)
1. Minutes for the following Planning Commission Meeting
a. September 18, 2007
Recommendation: approval
A motion was made by Commissioner O'Neal and seconded by Commissioner
Mendoza to approve the September 18, 2007 Regular Planning Commission
Minutes.
The following vote resulted:
AYES: CHAIRMAN ZANELLI
VICE-CHAIRMAN FLORES
COMMISSIONER GONZALES
COMMISSIONER MENDOZA
COMMISSIONER O'NEAL
NOES: NONE
ABSENT: NONE
ABSTAIN: NONE
PUBLIC HEARING(S)
2. Tentative Parcel Map No. 25336, and Tentative Tract Map No. 35337, for the
"Spyglass Ranch Specific Plan" located on the east side of Camino Del Norte at the
intersection with Main Street
Recommendations:
a. Continue to a date to be determined.
Chairman Zanelli opened the Public Hearing at 6:03 p.m.
Acting Community Development Director Weiner introduced Senior Planner Harris
who would provide the reading of the staff report to the Commission.
Senior Planner Harris provided a brief overview of the project to the Commission.
He indicated this project had been continued twice due to the applicant's request in
order to allow time for the engineering staff to evaluate street
improvement/requirements.
Chairman Zanelli requested the applicant to approach the podium.
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Erik Lunde, applicant for the project stated the purpose of the continuance request
is to allow time to work with staff on traffic updates. He requested having the project
heard to a date to be determined rather than taking it off calendar.
Chairman Zanelli requested any comments from the public. There being no further
comments, Chairman Zanelli brought the discussion back to the dais for
Commissioner Comments.
Commissioner O'Neal agreed with staffs recommendations and had no further
comments.
Commissioner Gonzales had no comments.
Commissioner Mendoza concurred with staffs recommendations and had no further
comments.
Vice-Chairman Flores concurred to continue off calendar to an unspecified date in
the future.
Deputy City Attorney Winterswyk spoke of the nature of the continuance. She
indicated if the item would be continued without re-noticing then there must be a
specific date specified.
Erik Lunde suggested having the project heard on July 7, 2009.
A motion was made by Commissioner Gonzales and seconded by Commissioner
O'Neal to continue Tentative Parcel Map No. 35336, and Tentative Tract Map No.
35337, for the "Spyglass Ranch Specific Plan" to the July 7, 2009 Regular Planning
Commission meeting.
The following vote resulted:
AYES: CHAIRMAN ZANELLI
VICE-CHAIRMAN FLORES
COMMISSIONER GONZALES
COMMISSIONER MENDOZA
COMMISSIONER O'NEAL
NOES: NONE
ABSENT: NONE
ABSTAIN: NONE
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3. Conditional Use Permit No. 2009-01 and a Minor Design Review - "Roval Street
Communication" Wireless Monooine Cellular Tower Facility located at 16401
Lakeshore Drive
Chairman Zanelli opened the Public Hearing at 6:07 p.m.
Recommendations:
a. Adopt a resolution recommending Planning Commissioner approval of
!i Conditional Use Permit No. 2009-01, and
b. Adopt a resolution recommending Planning Commission approval of a Minor
Design Review.
Acting Community Development Director Weiner introduced Planning Consultant
Coury who would be providing the Commission with a brief reading of the staff
report.
Planning Consultant Coury provided a brief overview of the project. He indicated the
applicant is requesting a Conditional Use Permit in addition to a Minor Design
Review to enable a co-location of several new telecommunication panels on an
existing 81-foot tall tower. He stated the location is 16401 Lakeshore Drive and
would be designed as a Monopine facility. He stated the applicant is proposing to
include a GPS antenna, a two (2) foot microwave dish on the structure and
equipment cabinets which would match the surrounding fencing. He indicated staff
supports the project, and the applicant is available to answer any questions the
Commission may have.
Chairman Zanelli requested the applicant to approach the podium.
Monica Moretta, representing Royal Street Communications, Inc. indicated that she
agrees to the Conditions of Approval.
Commissioner Gonzales had no comments.
Commissioner Mendoza had no comments.
Vice-Chairman Flores had no comments.
Commissioner O'Neal had no comments.
There being no comment Chairman Zanelli closed the Public Hearing at 6:11 p.m.
and requested a motion.
A motion was made by Vice-Chairman Flores, and seconded by Commissioner
Mendoza to adopt Resolution No. 2009-39, approving Conditional Use Permit No.
2009-01.
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The following vote resulted:
AYES: CHAIRMAN ZANELLI
VICE-CHAIRMAN FLORES
COMMISSIONER GONZALES
COMMISSIONER MENDOZA
COMMISSIONER O'NEAL
NOES: NONE
ABSENT: NONE
ABSTAIN: NONE
A motion was made by Commissioner Mendoza and seconded by Commissioner
Gonzales to adopt Resolution No. 2009-40, approving a Minor Design Review for the
design and construction of a co-located wireless antenna tower facility located at
16401 Lakeshore Drive, Lake Elsinore.
The following vote resulted:
AYES: CHAIRMAN ZANELLI
VICE-CHAIRMAN FLORES I
COMMISSIONER GONZALES
COMMISSIONER MENDOZA
COMMISSIONER O'NEAL
NOES: NONE
ABSENT: NONE
ABSTAIN: NONE
4. Modification of Conditional Use Permit No. 2008-09; A request to legalize a
previously constructed 740 square foot elevated stage within the Sports Bar area of
an existing Bowling and Entertainment Center (Trevi Lanes) located at 32250
Mission Trail, Lake Elsinore, CA 92530
Chairman Zanelli opened the Public Hearing at 6:13 p.m.
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Acting Community Development Director Weiner provided a brief background on the
project. He indicated the request is for a modification to an existing Conditional Use
Permit (CUP) to legalize a previously constructed 700 square foot elevated stage
that is located in the "Sports Bar" area of the facility. He indicated the CUP was
suspended for a period of time (90 days0 which has since ended. He stated the
applicant is presently trying to get formal approval of the stage. He noted some
modified conditions in the staff report. Staff recommends approval of the project and
the applicant is available to answer any questions the Commission may have.
Chairman Zanelli requested any public speakers to speak in favor of the project.
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Councilmember Hickman, representing himself as a resident spoke in favor of the
project. He suggested bringing the situation to closure and letting the owner conduct
his business. He addressed Condition No. 63 where it discusses private events
shall go no later than 3:00 a.m. nor begin before 8:00 a.m. Councilmember
Hickman noted the applicant has graduation parties at his facility and suggested
adding a stipulation in order to hold "Graduation Night." He also spoke of Condition
No. 64 which discusses noise disturbances arising from events occurring on the
Trevi property. He stated he has never heard of any loud disturbing noises coming
from the Trevi Lanes parking lot.
Matthew Ward, legal counsel representing the owner of the Best Western Hotel
adjacent to the Trevi Lanes property. He indicated he has reviewed the Conditions
of Approval paying particularly attention to Condition No. 64 where it discusses the
mitigation of noise disturbances. He pointed out to the Commission the
Memorandum dated January 20, 2009 from Captain Cleary outlining numerous
calls/actions taken since the business opened. He stated his clients have lost
revenue from having to refund money to back customers due to the noise coming
from the entertainment center. He questioned on ways to mitigate issues and feels
there is a lack of communication between the owner of the entertainment center and
the hotel manager. He stated the hotel manager has made several attempts to
contact the entertainment manager regarding the noise, but could not reach him.
Mr. Ward indicated that he sent a certified letter to the project owner advising them
that they would provide at their cost a certified sound technician to conduct a study
to determine the decibel levels that the sound systems are generating and see how
it would impact based upon the distance between the two businesses. He indicated
that as of today he has not received any response from the owner. He asked the
Commission if additional conditions were going to be discussed at the meeting.
Acting Community Development Director Weiner replied by saying at the Hearing
when the suspension was considered, there were new conditions that were
presented. He stated at that time consideration of the new conditions was put on
hold until the item returned to the Commission.
Matthew Ward, continued by saying it is his understanding that CEQA does contain
provisions to environmental impacts involving noise. He stated his clients are in
the audience to answer any questions that the Commission may have.
Deputy City Attorney Winterswyk commented by saying, staff is looking into any
CEQA issues the project may have.
Michel Knight, owner of Trevi Entertainment stated he did receive the letter that Mr.
Ward spoke of. He indicated that the hotels sound engineer is welcome to come
inside and look around. He noted that Councilmember Hickman had addressed that
he had never found any issues with noise. He spoke of complying with the City's
Noise Ordinance and indicated that there is no noise that would affect the hotel.
Deputy City Attorney Winterswyk stated a determination was made in connection
with the original Conditional Use Permit (CUP) that was approved that the project
qualified for an existing facility which is exempt under CEQA.
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Agin Patel, owner of the Best Western Hotel, Lake Elsinore spoke in opposition of
the project. He noted that if anyone is parked in front of their hotel, they would not
hear any noise. He stated that the sound could be heard from the rear of the hotel,
and the rooms that face the entertainment center. He noted in the last three months
there has been no noise due to the suspension of the CUP. He stated he is willing
to work with Mr. Knight.
Michel Knight responded by saying he is available everyday and to have one of his
staff members locate him if they need to speak with him. He stated the owners of
the hotel are welcome to come into his business and conduct inspections if
requested.
Matthew Ward responded by saying Mr. Knight's comments illustrate the need of
external policy to implement ways to mitigate the noise issue. He suggested one
way is to have an engineer look at the roof structure or maybe have a sound
engineer conduct some type of testing.
Commissioner O'Neal asked Mr. Patel why he did not conduct any readings at the
hotel as opposed to taking them at the entertainment center and also how many
days were the decibel levels above the allowed amount.
Mr. Patel replied by saying if he can hear the music from his hotel, then the music is
loud enough. He stated he has not conducted any sound readings from his hotel.
Commissioner O'Neal pointed out that he is not sure if the sound issue has anything
to do with the approval of the stage which is what is before the Commission today.
Chairman Zanelli pointed out the discussion tonight is pertaining to a stage that was
built without any approvals or permits and really doesn't have anything to do with
sound.
Commission Gonzales asked Mr. Knight if there is a decibel reader inside of the
entertainment center.
Michel Knight responded by saying "Yes we do."
Commissioner Gonzales asked if someone monitors the readings during an event.
Michel Knight responded by saying "Yes we do." He stated there are three (3)
decibel readers inside of the center.
Acting Community Development Director Weiner clarified the Noise Ordinance by
F1 saying the readings should be taken at the property line and the decibel levels
should not exceed 65 decibels up to 10:00 p.m. and then goes down to 60 decibels
from 10:00 p.m until 7:00 a.m.
Mr. Patel asked the Commission how could they verify that the readings were taken
correctly.
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Chairman Zanelli suggested for them to also have a decibel reading at the property
line and have it recorded and bring it back to the Commission.
Acting Community Development Director Weiner clarified the Noise Ordinance does
not differentiate between commercial uses. He stated it just states residential,
commercial and industrial. He stated the hotel is considered a commercial use
although Mr. Patel is correct by saying people sleep at the hotel, it is still considered
a commercial use. He stated in regarding the noise level readings, a reading should
be conducted by a licensed acoustical engineer.
Commissioner Mendoza pointed out that the CUP is still under the Planning
Commission and therefore the Commission can make a decision. He stated that Mr.
Knight has met all of the requirements necessary for the approval of the stage. He
indicated from what he has heard, it appears that this is not so much as a stage
issue but rather a lack of communication between the hotel owner and the
entertainment center. He noted the addition of Condition No. 64 which addresses
that issue. He suggested that once this project becomes approved, have the project
come back to the Commission for another review and if there are no further
problems then he stated he does not want to have it come back to the Commission.
Vice-Chairman Flores asked Acting Community Development Director Weiner what
the procedures would be if the project was approved.
Acting Community Development Director Weiner replied by saying if the project is
approved this evening, anyone could appeal the Planning Commissions decision
within 15 days. He stated at the end of the appeal period staff would look at where
the construction level is and the Building Division would then finalize their plan
check, then a building permit would be issued and the inspections would follow. He
stated if an appeal was filed, it would go before the City Council for their review and
the City Council could modify the Conditions.
Vice-Chairman Flores thanked Mr. Patel for bring his concerns to the Planning
Commission. He added that the City has an obligation to determine the accuracy of
the decibel readings and therefore allowing a staff member to be part of the readings
which would provide actual evidence. He spoke of an additional condition which
addresses the review within six (6) months after approval. He asked if that time
period would commence today if approved.
Acting Community Development Director Weiner responded by saying it would begin
today or later if appealed. He stated if an exact date would be established, then that
would be the date the project would need to be reviewed by the Planning
Commission.
Chairman Zanelli suggested using December 15, 2009 as the date for the project to
be reviewed by the Planning Commission which would either amend Condition No.
) 61 or add a new Condition of Approval.
Acting Community Development Director Weiner suggested modifying Condition No.
61 by changing the language to read "reviewed by City Council" to reviewed by
"Planning Commission" and insert the date December 15, 2009.
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Vice-Chairman Flores noted the amount of security officers that are employed at the
~I entertainment center and a fully armed security officer at the center and stated it is a
good sign that the owner of the entertainment center is in full compliance with the
security.
Commissioner O'Neal spoke of Condition No. 63 which discusses events going no
later than 3:00 a.m. and suggested some exceptions should be made for the high
schools that have all night events.
Chairman Zanelli concurred with the suggested and added on a regular basis 2:00
a.m. should be adequate with the exception of Grad Night.
Commissioner Mendoza requested clarification on the wording for Condition No. 61
and asked what the circumstances would be should the proposed Text Amendment
changing the process is approved.
Deputy City Attorney Winterswyk replied by saying that should the proposed Text
Amendment that is coming before the Planning Commission gets approved, it would
not have any effect on this project.
Chairman Zanelli spoke of Condition No. 32 where it discusses the installation of
high quality security surveillance cameras in good operating condition. He
recommended adding Video recordings shall be made available on demand to the
Sheriffs Department and that all recordings shall be kept for a minimum length of
time as prescribed by the Chief of Police."
Chairman Zanelli requested adding a Condition to state "the manager/owner shall
report all incidents regarding victimization of the business or its patrons immediately
to the Sheriffs Department," and "any new violations of the Municipal Code or the
Conditions of Approval would result in the placement of this CUP on the next
available agenda for consideration of revocation or suspension in accordance of the
L. E.M.C."
Vice-Chairman Flores asked if there is an Ordinance in the L.E.M.C. that prohibits
music or entertainment to cease at a certain time.
Acting Community Development Director Weiner replied by saying "No."
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Vice-Chairman Flores asked what time would the music stop playing.
Acting Community Development Director Weiner replied by saying there isn't any
provision that specifically states a time in the L.E.M.C., however the owner would
need to comply with the Noise Ordinance.
Chairman Zanelli responded by saying when a special event has been planned, it
could be addressed on the special event permit and noted on the permit of the Noise
Ordinance. He further added should the special event create problems with loud
music and disturbs the other businesses in the area, and then they would need to be
stopped.
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I Acting Community Development Director Weiner pointed out to the Commission that
currently special events such as Grad Nights are not required to have a special or
temporary permit.
Chairman Zanelli replied by saying he preferred having the events end at 2:00 a.m.
and he would not have a problem with Grad Nights, however those should be
reviewed in a manner which would be allowed to take place without being a
nuisance to the surrounding businesses.
Deputy City Attorney Winterswyk suggested adding "Any High School supervised
lock-down type of event must comply with the City's Noise Ordinance."
Chairman Zanelli replied by saying he did not think that it would be adequate if an
event caused disturbance to the Best Western Hotel or any other business in the
area.
Acting Community Development Director Weiner recommended the language to
Condition No. 63 to read, "Private events shall go no later than 2:00 a.m. nor begin
before 8:00 a.m. with the exception of adult supervised high school events in which
the Community Development Director shall approve such an event on a case by
case basis"
Deputy City Attorney Winterswyk asked the applicant if he would approve the added
language to the Condition.
Michel Knight replied by saying "Yes." He added he did not approve of the idea
that he would need to come back to the Commission every time someone would
make a complaint.
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Chairman Zanelli replied by saying, should the Code Enforcement, Building & Safety
or the Sheriffs Department continue to find problems, and they are under the
owner's control, then it should be brought to the Planning Commission's attention.
Chairman Zanelli closed the Public Hearing at 7:19 p.m. and requested a motion.
A motion was made by Commissioner Mendoza and seconded by Commissioner
Gonzales to adopt Resolution No. 2009-41, approving modifications to the
Conditional Use Permit No. 2008-09 including the additional Conditions of Approval
and the modification to the existing Conditions.
The following vote resulted:
AYES: CHAIRMAN ZANELLI
VICE-CHAIRMAN FLORES
F1 COMMISSIONER GONZALES
COMMISSIONER MENDOZA
COMMISSIONER O'NEAL
NOES: NONE
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ABSENT: NONE
ABSTAIN: NONE
BUSINESS ITEM(S)
None
STAFF COMMENTS
Public Works Director/City Engineer Seumalo commented on the following:
• He brought the Commission up to date on the CIP program where he discussed
Central Avenue at the 1-15 Freeway and how it is moving forward and staff expects
the be project to completed by next month.
• He stated the Dexter Avenue CIP project has been completed, however there are
still signs missing, but would get posted.
• He spoke of the median islands at the Center of Grape Street and how the turf would
be removed and weeded as well as the medians along Mission Trail and Lincoln.
He stated Grape Street would have bark and a drought plant material added in order
to have a low-flow irrigation installed in order to save water. Mission Trail & Lincoln
would have to wait until the Weed Abatement program is over.
PLANNING COMMISSIONER'S COMMENTS
Commissioner O'Neal commented on the following:
• No comments.
Commissioner Gonzales commented on the following:
• He spoke of campaign signs that are stilt remaining and suggested to having them
removed.
Commissioner Mendoza commented on the following:
• He spoke of the grading at the end of La Strada and asked if traffic is an issue and
was ingress/egress ever discussed. Public Works Director/City Engineer Seumalo
stated there was some discussion with the developer using a trail from north
Tuscany to Greenwald. Commissioner Mendoza pointed out to Public Works
Director/City Engineer Seumalo that there are trucks using a road known as
Belavista that leads to a dirt road down to Greenwald. Public Works Director/City
Engineer Seumalo replied by saying he would speak to the City's Traffic Engineer
and the Inspectors.
• He spoke of the Mine off Nicolas Road and how they are not in compliance with the
Conditions of Approval that states "all signs must be in Spanish and English."
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Vice-Chairman Flores commented on the following:
• He spoke to a person in the audience regarding a home purchase on Lash Street,
however the individual did not come up to the podium and therefore did not get
recorded.
Chairman Zanelli commented on the following:
• No comments.
ADJOURNMENT
It was the consensus of the Commission to adjourn to the July 7, 2009, Regular
Planning Commission meeting at 6:00 p.m. located at 183 N. Main Street, Lake
Elsinore, CA. 92530.
Chairman Zanelli adjourned the meeting at 7:29 p.m.
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