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MINUTES
PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISORY COMMISSION
REGULAR MEETING
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
183 NORTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA
WEDNESDAY, JANUARY 9, 2008
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CALL TO ORDER - 6:00 P.M.
Chairman Norkin called the Public Safety Advisory Commission meeting to order at 6:03
p.m.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Vice-Chair Bhutta.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT:
CHAIRMAN NORKIN
VICE-CHAIR BHUTTA
COMMISSIONER DAILEY
COMMISSIONER LYONS
COMMISSIONER STEWART
ABSENT:
NONE
Also present were: Information/Communications Manager Dennis, Assistant City
Attorney David Mann, Lake and Aquatic Resources Director Kilroy, Captain Hendershot,
Sergeant Yates, Traffic Engineer Basubas and Clerk of the Board Munson.
PUBLIC COMMENTS
There were no comments from the public.
CONSENT CALENDAR ITEM(S)
1. Minutes of the reoular meetino of November 14. 2007
Recommendation: Approve the minutes of the regular meeting dated November
14,2007.
It was motioned by Vice-Chair Bhutta, and seconded by Commissioner Lyons to
approve the Consent Calendar item.
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The following vote resulted:
AYES: CHAIRMAN NORKIN
VICE-CHAIR BHUTTA
COMMISSIONER DAILEY
COMMISSIONER LYONS
COMMISSIONER STEWART
NOES: NONE
ABSTAIN: NONE
ABSENT: NONE
BUSINESS ITEMS
2. Proposed Life Jacket Loaner Station for Elm Grove Beach Area
Lake & Aquatic Director Kilroy presented the staff report. He indicated the City
would like to install four loaner life jacket stations, based on the shoreline safety
report, at the main beach access at Elm Grove. The signs, as proposed, will be
printed vinyl, on aluminum, 4 ft. high - 6 ft. in length, with life jackets hanging on
six pegs. He stated the signs will be in English and in Spanish.
Chairman Norkin inquired how quickly can these stations be purchased and
installed.
Lake & Aquatic Director Kilroy responded the stations will be installed no later
than April 1 st with some improvements on the graphics on the sign and some
type of roof cover for the stations.
Information/Communications Director Dennis expressed his concerns with regard
to the signage and his idea of placing the words "use and return" and some type
of Fit Guide picture so that size and fit are understandable.
Lake & Aquatic Director Kilroy suggested two Type II life jackets for each size
would be placed at each station; two for a small children, two for a regular sized
child, one large adult and one extra large for an adult.
Commissioner Lyons expressed his concern with the way the jackets will be
displayed and is concerned with the loss factor and feels people are going to
walk off with them, and suggested the City ID be silkscreened on each jacket.
Lake & Aquatic Director Kilroy replied he thought it was worth the try and the cost
because there will not always be a person there for distribution.
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Chairman Norkin suggested placing a small sign at the exits of the beach to
remind people to leave life jackets.
Commissioner Dailey expressed her concern with liability with regard to the
durability of these types of life jackets and would like to see some data on the
durability of the jackets. She also expressed her concerns with the busyness of
the sign and stated certain messages need to be highlighted because people will
not read the whole sign. She also suggested replacing the life jacket picture with
an image with someone putting on a life jacket. She also suggested displaying
the sizes of the vests in location where they pick them up.
Lake & Aquatic Director Kilroy responded the life jackets are Coast Guard
approved. Staff would take on the responsibility to check the jackets for any
types of damages.
Lake & Aquatic Director Kilroy stated he would work the Mr. Dennis to
incorporate the suggestions of the Commission related to the sign.
Deputy City Attorney stated the most important factor, in terms of liability, is for
the City has a comprehensive Lake Safety Program. When the City has fewer
claims you have fewer people injured.
Vice-Chair Bhutta suggested using the terminology of "loaner jacket" and not "the
property of Lake Elsinore" on the jackets because there is a line of clothing that
uses this terminology of "property of', which might encourage youth to keep
them.
Chairman Norkin suggested having a rental program for the life jackets at the
docks and perhaps the other items needed for boat safety.
It was the consensus of the Commission to receive and file report.
3. Mid-Year Operatino Budoet Adiustment. PSAC
Information/Communications Director Dennis presented the staff report. He
stated in response to the City's revenue shortfall and direction to reduce
expenses 5% across the board, staff is recommending a one-time reduction of
$7,250 and a decrease of $17,250 in FY 08-09 which will be recommended to
the City Council during the mid-year budget process.
Chairman Norkin suggested using in-house service and using free services.
Vice-Chair Bhutta stated he did not mind a 5% cut, but a 65% cut and a 40% cut
next year. He also stated what upset him the most was not sending the fire
works post cards out that could save someone's life.
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Information/Communications Director Dennis responded this budget
recommendation and proposal was one of the first drafted, and later was found
that more services could be done in-house this year. However, the use of
consultants would be an area that would reduce costs, for example the use of
consultants for the graffiti program.
Chairman Norkin stated members of the Commission could be helping to find
funds through grant funds.
Commissioner Dailey suggested reaching out to the School District to reach out
to the community and also utilizing the Chamber of Commerce.
Vice-Chair Bhutta recommended not cutting anything at all from PSAC or asking
to only cut 5% and look at other places to cut additional money.
It was motioned by Commissioner Dailey, and seconded by Commissioner Lyons
to concur with staff recommendations of taking an immediate one time PSAC
budget reduction of $27,250 in FY 07-08 and $17,250 in FY 08-09.
The following vote resulted:
AYES: CHAIRMAN NORKIN
COMMISSIONER DAILEY
COMMISSIONER LYONS
COMMISSIONER STEWART
NOES: NONE
ABSTAIN: VICE-CHAIR BHUTTA
ABSENT: NONE
4. Reconsideration of Ordinance Requlatinq Hotel and Motel Reqistration
Information/Communications Manager Dennis presented the staff report. He
stated Chief Fetherolf reviewed the ordinance and together with PSAC's
recommendations from their last meeting have made some additional provisions.
Vice-Chair Bhutta inquired if there is an age limit to rent a room.
Assistant City Attorney responded he was not aware of any laws that would
prevent a minor from renting a hotel room and would look into if any City had this
type of ordinance.
It was motioned by Vice-Chair Bhutta, and seconded by Commissioner Dailey to
recommend adoption by the City Council.
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The following vote resulted:
AYES: CHAIRMAN NORKIN
VICE-CHAIR BHUTTA
COMMISSIONER DAILEY
COMMISSIONER LYONS
COMMISSIONER STEWART
NOES: NONE
ABSTAIN: NONE
ABSENT: NONE
5. Public Safety Advisory Commission Goals and Obiectives for the Year 2008
Commissioner Dailey had the following recommendations:
· Continue to have staff focus on using Aaron Burgin from the Press
Enterprise;
· Find ways for more people to come to our meetings perhaps through the
Neighborhood Watch Programs; and
· To consider ways to mitigate the problems that stem from foreclosures
through Code Enforcement.
Chairman Norkin had the following recommendations:
. Discuss fire prevention
· Utilizing the City web site to communicate and provide staff with these
types of safety issues within the City.
It was motioned by Commissioner Stewart, and seconded by Commissioner
Dailey to concur City Council/PSAC joint study session.
The following vote resulted:
AYES: CHAIRMAN NORKIN
VICE-CHAIR BHUTTA
COMMISSIONER DAILEY
COMMISSIONER LYONS
COMMISSIONER STEWART
NOES: NONE
ABSTAIN: NONE
ABSENT: NONE
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PUBLIC SAFETY SUBCOMMITTEE REPORTS
Commissioner Dailey reported on the activities of the CERT Committee. The next
meeting will be held on January 23rd where goals and objectives will be discussed.
CITY STAFF COMMENTS
Information/Communications Manager Dennis made the following announcements:
1. Reported the City Council approved PSAC recommendations on the regulations
of news racks.
2. The mid-Year Budget Study Session will be held on January 1ih at 5:00 p.m. in
the Cultural Center.
Traffic Engineer Basubas responded to Commissioner Dailey's complaints about her
neighbor debris and suggested she contact the Public Works Department should safety
issues concern public property.
PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISORY COMMISSIONERS' COMMENTS
Commissioner Stewart thanked the City Council for providing the time to discuss the
PSAC goals and objectives and budget issues. He also thanked
Information/Communications Manager Dennis for all of his hard work.
Commissioner Dailey thanked Information/Communications Manager Dennis and
Chairman Norkin for all of their hard work on PSAC's goals and objectives.
Vice-Chair Bhutta stated he feels that PSAC is limiting them on accepting the proposed
cuts in the budget, but will go along with the Commission.
Vice-Chair Bhutta thanked Chairman Norkin and Information/Communications Manager
Dennis for their hard work.
Chairman Norkin requested that he and Traffic Engineer Basubas go out to Canyon Hill
School regarding their parking issues.
Chairman Norkin also suggested creating two more subcommittees; one for traffic
safety and a surveillance subcommittee.
ADJOURNMENT
It was the consensus of the Commission to adjourn to a Regular Meeting on February
13, 2008, in the Cultural Center located at 183 North Main Street, Lake Elsinore,
California, CA, 92530.
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Chairman Norkin adjourned the meeting at 7:40 p.m.
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VI IAN M. MUNSON
CLERK OF THE BOARD
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