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MINUTES
PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISORY COMMISSION
REGULAR MEETING
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
183 NORTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA
WEDNESDAY. MAY 13, 2009
CALL TO ORDER - 6:00 P.M.
Chairman Norkin called the meeting to order at 6:02 p.m.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Commissioner Stewart.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: CHAIRMAN NORKIN
VICE-CHAIRMAN BHUTTA
COMMISSIONER DAILEY
F1 COMMISSIONER LYONS
COMMISSIONER STEWART
ABSENT: NONE
Also present were: Information/Communications Manager Dennis, Assistant City
Attorney Mann, Public Works Manager Payne, Fire Chief Hendershot, Police Sergeant
Chavez, and Office Specialist Porche.
PUBLIC COMMENTS
Rochelle Ceballos, representative from the Cottonwood Canyon Hills Homeowners
Association, spoke of Ordinance No. 1252 which addresses abandoned residential
properties. She stated she's been working with City employee Scott Burns with the
up-keeping of the abandoned homes. She asked who imposes the penalties for
homes that are not register within the 10-day time period, and what happens if a
home is not registered. She wanted to be assured that all of the abandoned homes
are being addressed and to get a better understanding of the process.
She requested the Commission to look into proposing a four (4) way stop sign at the
rrr intersection of Cedarhill Lane and Poppy. She stated currently there is only a one
way stop; however, lately there have been many accidents including one fatality.
John Treese, resident of Lake Elsinore, provided a follow up on the status of
Palomar Road. He stated he spoke with engineering staff and the surrounding
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neighbors. He stated no one had any major concerns with any three designs that
engineering proposed. He stated his next step is to meet with the neighbors in the
Fairfield and Madison community and go over the designs that engineering has
proposed. He stated he would know in two (2) weeks if he would have enough
information to bring it back to the Commission for discussion.
COMMISSION APPROVES CONSENT CALENDAR ITEM(S)
1. Minutes from the Regular Public Safety Advisory Commission Meeting of April 22,
2009.
Recommendation: Approve
Commissioner Stewart noted a correction to the April 22, 2009 Minutes under the
heading Commissioner Stewart comments on page 7 of 7 where it states he
apologized for not attending the outreach program in Tuscany Hills. He advised the
Commission that he did attend the meeting and to have the minutes reflect the
change.
It was motioned by Commissioner Lyons and seconded by Commissioner Dailey to
approve the March 11, 2009 Public Safety Advisory Commission Meeting Minutes
with the noted corrections.
The following vote resulted:
AYES: CHAIRMAN NORKIN
VICE-CHAIRMAN BHUTTA
COMMISSIONER DAILEY
COMMISSIONER LYONS
COMMISSIONER STEWART
NOES: NONE
ABSTAIN: NONE
ABSENT: NONE
BUSINESS ITEMS
1. Wildland/Urban Interface-Defensible Space Update
Recommendation: Discuss fire season issues related to recent laws and building
code changes updating Wildland/urban interface risk analysis and defensible space
requirements affecting new residential construction and homeowner improvements.
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Fire Chief Hendershot stated on March 12, 2008 he spoke to the Commission
addressing the new State Laws for State Responsibility Areas (SRA) and Local
Responsibility Areas (LRA). He provided a map that shows the high fire danger
zone which was provided to the Commission by the IT/GIS Department. He stated
the City has adopted Uniform Building Codes for higher resistant building codes
which has jurisdiction over defensible space. He stated this means removing all
flammable vegetation within a prescribed distance from all structures. He noted last
year's fires across California was one of the worst fire seasons in recorded history.
He stated this year the fire potential could be just as bad or even worse. He
indicated that CAL FIRE is mandated by the Public Resource Code that identifies
the fire hazard severity zones statewide which are significant fire hazards based on
fuels, terrain weather and other relevant factors. He stated in areas, CAL FIRE has
mapped three hazard ranges from moderate, high and very high. He indicated the
statute arose out of legislation following the large, catastrophic urban conflagrations
and is designed to implement mitigations to reduce damages from wildfires. He
noted the new Wildland-Urban Interface Building Codes would increase the cost for
new construction on an average of $1,800 per home. He advised the Commission
the best way to view what is available is to go to the Cal Fire Web site.
Vice-Chairman Bhutta suggested having the links uploaded onto the City's Web site
and having a tracking device on how many viewed the web page.
Chairman Norkin asked when the last major fire in Lake Elsinore was.
Chief Hendershot replied by saying around 1991.
Chairman Norkin asked if there is anything that the Code Enforcement can regulate
the overgrown or brush in the public's yard.
Robin Chipman stated Code Enforcement can provide assistance with regulating the
cleaning of the weeds and brush but not regulating the clearance of brush distance
or bushes.
Chief Hendershot spoke of the new development in the City and the types of
fuel/vegetation that grows. He stated the best defense is education and suggested
to the public to view the Riverside County Fire prevention Web site and suggested
making the City's Fire Department's Web site more user-friendly.
Chairman Norkin asked if the City is doing enough for fire protection.
Chief Hendershot responded by saying "yes", once the map has been adopted by
Ordinance.
Commissioner Lyons spoke of a major fire in 1995 and how fixed wing aircraft
assisted with putting the fire out. He stated he was concerned with all the new
development in the City particularly with the homes in the Lincoln neighborhood
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which only has two exits. He suggested posting an evacuation route for the public
viewing.
Commissioner Dailey asked how much responsibility does the Homeowners
Associations (HOA) have and if they assume any of the responsibility.
Chief Hendershot replied by saying he doesn't know what the responsibility the HOA
has.
Commissioner Dailey suggested educating the HOA's in the City and asked if Cal
Fire has a budget to allow education.
Chief Hendershot replied by saying, no they do not have the funds for educating the
public.
Commissioner Dailey suggested a media tour or press release and tour of a high
risk area which could possibly create an article for the paper. She also suggested
posting an announcement at the Storm Stadium and on the City's Web site which all
is inexpensive.
Vice-Chairman Bhutta asked if there is any more money left in the City's budget.
Information/Communications Manager Dennis replied by stating most of the money
was used for the graffiti program.
Vice-Chairman Bhutta suggested on having information printed onto HOA new
leaflets that discusses the fire danger and have the Web site address listed for
further information.
Chairman Norkin suggested cross-training City staff particularly in the Code
Enforcement Department to identify areas that are potentially dangerous with
overgrown vegetation.
Chief Hendershot asked the Building Official if there is anything in the Municipal
Code that mandates property owners from clearing their land.
Building Official Chipman responded by saying, no, not that he is aware of.
Chairman Norkin asked Assistant City Attorney Mann if the Commission could
request implementing an Ordinance that would give the City the authority to require
homeowners to clean up their overgrown weeds/vegetation.
r Assistant City Attorney Mann replied by saying he would look into it.
Chief Hendershot stated once the map has been approved by Sacramento, it would
then come to the City for adoption.
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F1 Assistant City Attorney Mann commented in order for the City to regulate conduct
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the City must show a need and the map identifying particular areas with high risks
associated with the property.
Commissioner Stewart concurred with Vice-Chairman Bhutta on utilizing the City's
HOA's to post valuable information regarding fire safety. He also suggested posting
the information on utility bills such as CR&R trash bills.
Chief Hendershot showed a video to the audience and Commission regarding a new
program being adopted by FIRESCOPE called Ready, Set, Go, which would also be
on the Riverside County Fire Department's Web site.
There being no further discussion, Chairman Norkin called for a Motion.
It was motioned by Commissioner Dailey and seconded by Chairman Norkin to
recommend to the City to assist the Fire Department to create an education
opportunity such as partnering with Homeowner Associations within the City and
identifying media opportunities, spending collateral material for distribution and for
advertisement opportunities and to instruct the City Attorney to research information
that would require homeowners to clean up their overgrown weeds/vegetation.
The following vote resulted:
AYES: CHAIRMAN NORKIN
VICE-CHAIRMAN BHUTTA
COMMISSIONER DAILEY
COMMISSIONER LYONS
COMMISSIONER STEWART
NOES: NONE
ABSTAIN: NONE
ABSENT: NONE
3. Annual Fireworks Prohibition Campaign
Recommendation: Discussion and direction on publicity tactics.
Information/Communications Manager Dennis stated because this project is so
closely related to the last item discussed, it is recommended that staff shows that
staff has put together a key message that "Fireworks and Fire Season Don't Mix."
F1 He stated in the past, staff has put the messages on billboards and sent direct
mailings. However, this year is constrained due to the City's current budget. He
suggested utilizing CR&R trash bill mailings for a fireworks prohibition insert.
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Chairman Norkin asked Police Sgt. Chavez if the Police Department has a task force
that could control the use of illegal fireworks.
Police Sgt. Chavez replied by saying the Fire Department and the Bomb Squad
have selected Deputies that make sure no one is firing off illegal fireworks. He
stated last year CALFIRE had a few of their prevention officers driving around the
City and County to assist the Deputies if needed. He stated illegal fireworks have a
zero tolerance policy within the Riverside County.
Commissioner Dailey suggested the LCD display at the Storm Stadium which would
include graffiti and fire issues as well as a way to introduce it to the community. She
also suggested using the Penny Saver newspaper or possibly the City's Web site
and having it in English and Spanish. She suggested using the water bill as many
citizens do not get a trash bill and suggested asking EVMWD for assistance.
Commissioner Stewart spoke of having a video presentation regarding fireworks on
CALFIRE's Web site or on the City's Web site.
Fire Chief Hendershot replied by saying he wasn't sure if there was a video
presentation on their Web site. However it could possibly be on the US Fire
Administration's Web site.
Vice Chairman Bhutta suggested having a video presentation regarding fireworks
just before the City Council meetings.
Commissioner Stewart concurred with Commissioner's Dailey's suggestions and
stated it would capture many residents' attention at one time.
A motion was made by Commissioner Dailey and seconded by Commissioner
Stewart to consider outreach opportunities recommended by the Public Safety
Advisory Commission such as publishing notices in the local Pennysaver, water bill,
HOA's, Storm Stadium and prior to the City Council meetings.
The following vote resulted:
AYES: CHAIRMAN NORKIN
VICE-CHAIRMAN BHUTTA
COMMISSIONER DAILEY
COMMISSIONER LYONS
COMMISSIONER STEWART
NOES: NONE
ABSTAIN: NONE
ABSENT: NONE
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4. Update on Recruitment Process for Three PSAC Commission Openings in June
Recommendation: Receive and file
Information/Communications Manager Dennis advised the Commission three
Commissioners' terms would expire in June (Norkin, Lyons, & Bhutta). He indicated
the City has published the volunteer opportunity on the City's Web site and in the
local newspaper. He indicated the application period would close on May 27th and
be presented to the City Council on June 9th.
A motion was made by Chairman Norkin and seconded by Commissioner Dailey to
receive and file the Public Safety Advisory Commission recruitment process.
The following vote resulted:
AYES: CHAIRMAN NORKIN
VICE-CHAIRMAN BHUTTA
COMMISSIONER DAILEY
COMMISSIONER LYONS
COMMISSIONER STEWART
i NOES: NONE
ABSTAIN: NONE
ABSENT: NONE
PUBLIC SAFETY SUBCOMMITTEE REPORTS
Public Works Manager Payne provided the Commission with the status of the last
Citizen's Corp meeting which was held on May 13, 2009. He stated 160 citizens have
expressed their interest in volunteering for the program. He stated the next meeting
would be held on June 10, 2009 at 4:00 at the City's Cultural Center.
Chairman Norkin stated he heard some of the residents requesting the CERT Training
to be held on weekends. He suggested using the Storm Stadium for practicing the
drills.
Public Works Manager Payne concurred with Chairman Norkin's recommendations of
using the Storm Stadium and stated there have been discussions of weekend training
which may be considered.
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CITY STAFF COMMENTS
Fire Chief Hendershot commented on the following:
• He spoke of the upcoming fire season and advised the Commission due to the
increase of the fire activity and dryness of the vegetation, the second state engine
would be coming to the City on May 25, 2009.
Information/Communications Manager Dennis commented on the following:
• He advised the Commission that it is Public Works` Week.
• He spoke of the upcoming Budget Study Session to be held on May 21, 2009 at 5:00
p.m. at the City's Cultural Center.
• He spoke of the success of the Outreach meetings and reviewed with the
Commission suggested areas that could be targeted for the next meeting.
PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISORY COMMISSIONER'S COMMENTS
Chairman Norkin commented on the following:
(-I • He requested information from the Assistant City Attorney if commercial property
owners could establish their own rules on curfew.
• He thanked the Fire Chief for his presentation.
Vice-Chairman Bhutta commented on the following:
• He thanked Public Works Manager Payne for the report on the Citizen's Corp
meeting.
• He thanked Fire Chief Hendershot for the great presentation on fire safety.
Commissioner Dailey commented on the following:
• She spoke of the education opportunities available for the public regarding fire safety
and ways of protection.
• She requested an update regarding the City's budget for the Public Safety Advisory
Commission.
Commissioner Stewart commented on the following:
• He thanked the Canyon Hills HOA for attending the meeting and hopes to continue a
r great working relationship.
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I Commissioner Lyons commented on the following:
• He spoke of the highly qualified Sherrill Deputies that patrol the lake and stated they
are a pleasure to work with.
PUBLIC COMMENTS
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None
ADJOURNMENT
It was the consensus of the Commission to adjourn to a regular meeting on June 10,
2009, at 6:00 p.m. in the Cultural Center located at 183 North Main Street, Lake
Elsinore, California, CA, 92530.
Vice-Chairman Bhutta adjourned the meeting at 7:50 p.m.
VICE CHAIRMAN BHUTTA
PUBLIC SAFETY ADVISORY COMMISSION
RESPECTFULLY SUBMITTED:
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DANA C. PORCHE
OFFICE SPECIALIST