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MINUTES
FI PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
183 NORTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CA 92530
TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 18. 2007
CALL TO ORDER - 6:00 P.M.
Vice-Chairman Gonzales called the meeting to order at 6:00 p.m.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
Commissioner Flores led the Pledge of Allegiance.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: VICE-CHAIRMAN GONZALES
COMMISSIONER FLORES
COMMISSIONER MENDOZA
COMMISSIONER ZANELLI
ABSENT: CHAIRMAN O'NEAL
STAFF PRESENT
Also present were Community Development Director Preisendanz, Planning Manager
Weiner, Deputy City Attorney Santana, Planning Consultant Donahoe, Planning
Consultant Coury, Associate Planner Carlson, Public Works Director/City Engineer
Seumalo, and Office Specialist Herrington.
PUBLIC COMMENTS
None
THE PLANNING COMMISSION PULLED FROM THE CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS
1-3 FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION
1. Minor Design Review of a Single-Family Residence located at 703 Pottery Street
(APN: 374-041-017).
I Recommendation: Approval
Vice-Chairman Gonzales requested the applicant to approach the podium.
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Hector Zubieta, applicant for the project indicated his client has read and agrees
r with the Conditions of Approval.
A motion was made by Commissioner Mendoza and seconded by Commissioner
Zanelli to adopt Resolution No. 2007-157 approving Minor Design Review for a
conventionally built Single-Story Single-Family dwelling unit located at 703 Pottery
Street.
The following vote resulted:
AYES : VICE-CHAIRMAN GONZALES
COMMISSIONER FLORES
COMMISSIONER MENDOZA
COMMISSIONER ZANELLI
NOES: NONE
ABSENT: CHAIRMAN O'NEAL
ABSTAIN: NONE
2. Minor Design Review of a Single-Family Residence located at 16781 Holborow
Avenue (APN: 378-262-004)
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Recommendation: Denial
Vice-Chairman Gonzales excused himself from the item due to the proximity of the
project to his residence.
Commissioner Zanelli requested the applicant to approach the podium.
Scott Vasquez, applicant for the project as well as item number three stated he
would like to have the opportunity to work with staff in order to work out the issues
with the height of the garage.
Commissioner Zanelli asked the applicant if he is requesting a continuance.
Scott Vasquez, confirmed by saying he feels that their have been some
miscommunication between him and staff and requested more time to resolve the
issues.
Commissioner Flores requested a point of order. He indicated staff is
recommending a denial for the project yet the applicant is requesting a continuance
for both this project as well as item number three.
Deputy City Attorney Santana confirmed that the Commission could continue off
calendar Item's two and three with one motion.
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3. Minor Design Review of a Single-family Residence located at 415 Adobe Street
(APN.377-312-020)
Recommendation: Denial
A motion was made by Commissioner Flores and seconded by Commissioner
Mendoza to continue off calendar the Minor Design Review of a Single-Family
dwelling unit located at 16781 Holborow Avenue and at 415 Adobe Street.
The following vote resulted:
AYES : COMMISSIONER FLORES
COMMISSIONER MENDOZA
COMMISSIONER ZANELLI
NOES: NONE
ABSENT: CHAIRMAN O'NEAL
ABSTAIN: VICE-CHAIRMAN GONZALES
Vice-Chairman Gonzales reconvened the meeting at 6:10 p.m.
PUBLIC HEARING ITEM(S)
4. Annexation No. 81 - Third Street Annexation
Recommendation: Approval
Vice-Chairman Gonzales opened the Public Hearing at 6:11 p.m.
Project Planner Donahoe provided a brief overview of the project to the Commission.
She indicated the project is known as the Third Street Annexation Area. She stated
the project is bordered by Dexter Avenue and Camino Del Norte to the west,
Waterford Street to the east and Highway 74 to the north all which is currently in the
County of Riverside. She noted the General Plan Update adoption process is not
anticipated to begin until the first quarter of 2008 and LAFCO takes a minimum of six
(6) months in which the City desires to submit the annexation to LAFCO. She stated
this would give staff enough time to get the application ready. She stated LAFCO is
willing to accept the annexation application, but would not be taking any action on
the annexation until such time that the City pre-zones the property. She indicated
staff recommends approval of the project. She advised the Commission that she
received a memo from a property owner and provided a copy to the Commission.
Vice-Chairman Gonzales requested speakers to speak either for or against the
project.
Mike Matthews, resident of the unincorporated area of Lake Elsinore spoke neutral
of the project. He addressed the Commission on how the City did not accurately
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inform the residents regarding the past meeting on the Third Street Annexation. He
stated four key questions that the residents of the Third Street Annexation wanted
FI straight forward honest answers and did not receive. The first most important is the
zoning and quality of life issue. He indicated without a commitment from the City to
keep the Residential Agriculture (RA) zoning, he stated it would impact his quality of
life by taking away the many freedoms that he moved there to enjoy. He feels he
can classify his home as horse property which would keep the value of the homes at
the level equal to surrounding housing in the area. He added that he asks for an
action plan for the flooding and water issues that he has experienced since
construction has began in Wasson Canyon. He indicated a response was never
given until the residents had to plead with many of the City, County and State
Officials.
George Edsel, stated he was involved in a proposed annexation about thirteen
years ago and indicated he does not understand the costs. Everyone should take a
look at the benefits for the residents and suggested having it placed on a ballot for
the City to vote on.
Bernard Rockwood, requested the zoning to remain as is. He spoke of the
potential speeding on Welch Street, the sewer lines and drainage issues and how it
could impact the residents.
Eddie Henosa, spoke of the water draining off Allen Street and the proposed zoning
for the annexed property. He requested the water issues be handled as soon as
possible.
Elsinore Hills RV Park (name not entered into the record) stated his concerns were
with zoning and expressed that should the zoning be changed to Hillside Housing, it
would reduce the property value.
Vice-Chairman Gonzales closed the Public Hearing at 6:27 p.m.
Vice-Chairman Gonzales advised the audience the sewer lines are controlled by
Lake Elsinore Municipal Water District (EVMWD) and not the City. He requested
comments from staff addressing the comments made by the public.
Project Planner Donahoe pointed out to the Commission the action that is before the
Commission is to request LAFCO to commence proceedings to annex the territory
designated and not the land uses. She noted many property owners wish to keep
1 horses on their property and staff would research to determine if it is feasible to zone
the area allowing horses.
Deputy City Attorney Santana replied by saying the City would take a look at the
zoning when staff is considering the prezoning application. She stated it would be
coming forward at the same time as the General Plan Update.
Commissioner Flores spoke of a letter from David McLane which was entered into
the record. He stated the issues in the letter spoke of land uses and asked if the
Commission could discuss the matter.
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r Deputy City Attorney Santana replied by saying the request before the Commission
I is a request for a boundary change only. The prezoning portion of the request
comes forward in the future and is likely that staff would be better prepared to
answer any questions so that we do not send out any mixed messages to the public.
Commissioner Flores asked when would the public have their questions answered
regarding the zoning issues. He stated, although it is a preliminary hearing staff is
requesting the process to be continued without the property owners having their
questions answered.
Director of Community Development Preisendanz replied by saying staff is in the
process of answering the questions the public presented regarding zoning.
Kirt Munio, resident of Lake Elsinore stated the questions presented are important
issues that would have an effect on whether he should use his land as he is
currently using it.
Commissioner Flores replied by saying as long as he is a Commissioner for the City
he would assure to address all issues. He pointed out that the supervisor for the
County or a representative should have attended the meeting. He stated he
believes the County and the City has not put their best foot forward and suggested
the public call the County Supervisor and express their concerns.
Public Works Director/City Engineer Seumalo indicated that he met with
Commissioner Zanelli and Commissioner Flores on the drainage issues on Allen
Street. He stated that he is working with CalTrans and confirmed that they are
moving forward to diverting the water.
Mike Matthews stated he is looking for an answer to his questions as it has been
over a year. He stated he would like to see the drainage issues resolved and stated
the County Supervisor is also aware of the issues.
Commissioner Flores stated should the annexation proceedings continue, the City
would be able to provide needed services. He stated he would like to see the
Annexation move forward so the City could assist the property owners further.
Commissioner Mendoza thanked the audience for expressing their concerns to the
Commission. He stated he symphonizes with the homeowners who have had to
deal with the drainage issues and indicated that as long as the land remains in the
County, the City can't help the situation.
Eddie Henosa stated the drainage issues are a result from water coming from an
area that a developer commenced grading on.
Commissioner Zanelli concurred with the Commission. He pointed out that the City
is making every effort to improve the area. He stated the improvement may take
some time to resolve and stated he is in favor of approving the Annexation.
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Vice-Chairman Gonzales concurred with the Commission. He asked the Community
n Development Director at what point do the citizens have a chance to vote.
Community Development Director Preisendanz replied by saying the citizens would
receive a notice regarding the annexation, prezoning and entitlements and would
have a chance to vote.
Commissioner Zanelli suggested to Community Development Director to provide the
audience an explanation of the fees that would incur once they are part of the City.
A motion was made by Commissioner Zanelli and seconded by Commissioner
Mendoza to adopt Resolution No. 2007-158, recommending to the City Council that
a request be made to the Riverside County Local Agency Formation Commission
(LAFCO) to commence proceedings to annex the territory designated as Annexation
No. 81 into the corporate boundaries of the City of Lake Elsinore.
The following vote resulted:
AYES : VICE-CHAIRMAN GONZALES
COMMISSIONER FLORES
COMMISSIONER MENDOZA
COMMISSIONER ZANELLI
NOES: NONE
ABSENT: CHAIRMAN O'NEAL
ABSTAIN: NONE
Vice-Chairman Gonzales requested a recess at 7:02 p.m. and reconvened the
meeting at 7:05 p.m.
Vice-Chairman Gonzales indicated that items 5 & 6 would be discussed together but
voting on them separately
5. Conditional Use Permit No. 2006-15, Tentative Parcel Map No. 34978 (for
condominium purposes), and Residential Design Review No. 2006-09 for Hunter's
Ridoe.
Recommendation: Approval
6. Conditional Use Permit No. 2006-16, Tentative Parcel Map No. 34979 (for
condominium purposes), and Residential Design Review No. 2006-10 for Hidden
Oaks.
Recommendation: Approval
Vice-Chairman Gonzales opened the Public Hearing at 7:06 p.m.
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Project Planner Coury stated the project areas for items number 5 & 6 are located
immediately adjacent from each other. He indicated for the purposes of the
Conditions and Resolutions, separate staff reports have been prepared. He stated
the items were continued from the August 21, 2007 Planning Commission meeting
at the request of the applicant. He indicated all issues have been resolved and the
applicant agrees to the Conditions of Approval.
He indicated the projects are pertaining to two individually-owned condominium units
with an associated common area within the Canyon Hills Specific Plan. He stated
i both projects are located off Railroad Canyon Road, across from the existing fire
Station. The architectural style would include Craftsman, Mediterranean and Tuscan
and both would be maintained by the Home Owner's Association (HOA). He noted
handicap parking would be provided for both projects allowing for disabled access to
the Recreation Center areas. He advised the Commission that the applicant for both
projects is available to answer any questions the Commission may have.
David Dunham, representing Pardee Homes thanked staff for their presentation of
the two projects.
Jim Stringer, representing Pardee Homes also thanked staff for all their help and
indicated that they agree to the Conditions of Approval.
Vice-Chairman Gonzales requested comments from the public. There being no
further comments, Vice-Chairman Gonzales closed the Public Hearing at 7:13 p.m.
Commissioner Mendoza spoke of the Conditions of Approval and requested
Condition No. 21 be modified to include days and times. He mentioned the driveway
nearest to the Fire Department and asked if there would be a deceleration lane for
the second entrance.
Project Planner Coury responded by saying there would not be a deceleration lane
at this time.
Public Works Director/City Engineer Seumalo noted that a traffic study was
conducted and the deceleration lane was not identified as a mitigation tool. He
stated staff could further review and added it if the Commission felt is was
necessary.
Commissioner Mendoza stated the project would be a welcomed sight to the parcel
and had no further comments.
Project Planner Coury clarified Condition No. 21 to read the days and hours of
construction.
r Commissioner Mendoza concurred.
Commissioner Zanelli asked if the Recreation Center would be completed prior to
occupancy.
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David Dunham concurred that the Recreation Center would be completed along
with the model prior to the production units.
Commissioner Zanelli had no further comments.
Commissioner Flores stated he is very proud that Pardee Homes has chosen Lake
Elsinore for this project. He asked if there is going to be a park proposed.
Jim Stringer replied by saying the reason there isn't any park is because of the two
proposed recreation centers and stated there are parks on the other side of Railroad
Canyon Road that satisfied the entire park requirements for the Canyon Hills project.
Project Planner Coury noted there are two recreation centers within both projects
including common areas and open field play areas.
Commissioner Flores asked if he knew of the acreage of the open field play areas.
David Dunham replied by saying the recreation facilities are strictly for the residents
which include a steam room, sauna, exercise equipment, a racquet ball court and
swimming pool. He stated in addition to the recreation facility, both projects include
Tot lots and picnic areas including barbeques.
Vice-Chairman Gonzales asked if re-claimed water would be used for watering the
trees.
Jim Stringer stated if the water were to be available then they would like to use it,
however he stated the majority of the time the water is not available. He stated they
are also using energy smart buildings which include extra installation, dual pane
windows and e-glass, all which is energy efficient.
Vice-Chairman Gonzales had no further comments and called for a motion.
It was motioned by Commissioner Flores and seconded by Commissioner Zanelli to
adopt Resolution No. 2007-159 and adopt Findings that the project is exempt from
the Multiple Species Habitat Conservation Plan (MSHCP).
The following vote resulted:
AYES : VICE-CHAIRMAN GONZALES
i COMMISSIONER FLORES
COMMISSIONER MENDOZA
COMMISSIONER ZANELLI
NOES: NONE
ABSENT: CHAIRMAN O'NEAL
ABSTAIN: NONE
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It was motioned by Commissioner Flores and seconded by Commissioner Zanelli to
adopt Resolution No. 2007-160, approving Conditional Use Permit No. 2006-15.
The following vote resulted:
AYES : VICE-CHAIRMAN GONZALES
COMMISSIONER FLORES
COMMISSIONER MENDOZA
COMMISSIONER ZANELLI
i NOES: NONE
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ABSENT: CHAIRMAN O'NEAL
ABSTAIN: NONE
It was motioned by Commissioner Flores and seconded by Commissioner Mendoza
to adopt Resolution No. 2007-161, recommending to City Council approval of
Vesting Tentative Parcel Map No. 34978.
The following vote resulted:
AYES : VICE-CHAIRMAN GONZALES
COMMISSIONER FLORES
COMMISSIONER MENDOZA
COMMISSIONER ZANELLI
NOES: NONE
ABSENT: CHAIRMAN O'NEAL
ABSTAIN: NONE
It was motioned by Commissioner Zanelli and seconded by Commissioner Mendoza
to adopt Resolution No. 2007-162, approving Residential Design Review No. 2006-
09.
The following vote resulted:
AYES : VICE-CHAIRMAN GONZALES
COMMISSIONER FLORES
COMMISSIONER MENDOZA
COMMISSIONER ZANELLI
NOES: NONE
ABSENT: CHAIRMAN O'NEAL
ABSTAIN: NONE
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It was motioned by Commissioner Zanelli and seconded by Commissioner Flores to
adopt Resolution No. 2007-163, adopting Findings that the project is exempt from
the Multiple Species Habitat Conservation Plan (MSHCP).
The following vote resulted:
AYES : VICE-CHAIRMAN GONZALES
COMMISSIONER FLORES
COMMISSIONER MENDOZA
! COMMISSIONER ZANELLI
NOES: NONE
ABSENT: CHAIRMAN O'NEAL
ABSTAIN: NONE
It was motioned by Commissioner Mendoza and seconded by Commissioner Zanelli
to adopt Resolution No. 2007-164, approving Conditional Use Permit No. 2006-16.
The following vote resulted:
I! AYES : VICE-CHAIRMAN GONZALES
COMMISSIONER FLORES
COMMISSIONER MENDOZA
COMMISSIONER ZANELLI
NOES: NONE
ABSENT: CHAIRMAN O'NEAL
ABSTAIN: NONE
It was motioned by Commissioner Mendoza and seconded by Commissioner Zanelli
to adopt Resolution No. 2007-165, recommending to the City Council approval of
Vesting Tentative Parcel Map No. 34979.
The following vote resulted:
AYES : VICE-CHAIRMAN GONZALES
COMMISSIONER FLORES
COMMISSIONER MENDOZA
COMMISSIONER ZANELLI
NOES: NONE
ABSENT: CHAIRMAN O'NEAL
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ABSTAIN: NONE
It was motioned by Commissioner Mendoza and seconded by Commissioner Zanelli
to adopt Resolution No. 2007-166, approving Residential Design Review No. 2006-
10.
The following vote resulted:
AYES : VICE-CHAIRMAN GONZALES
COMMISSIONER FLORES
COMMISSIONER MENDOZA
i COMMISSIONER ZANELLI
NOES: NONE
ABSENT: CHAIRMAN O'NEAL
ABSTAIN: NONE
BUSINESS ITEMS
7. Discussion related to Septic System Monitoring in the Country Club Heights Area
and Advance Treatment Units.
Planning Manager Weiner stated the presented item is to discuss related to septic
monitoring in the Country Club Heights area, Santa Ana River Basin as well as
Advanced Treatment Units. He stated the Commission is aware of some information
already. He indicated that related to the report is an offer from Elsinore Valley
Municipal Water District (EVMWD) to present at the next Planning Commission
Meeting where some of the items can be discussed more at length.
Commissioner Zanelli responded by saying he would like to see a presentation
provided to the Commission by EVMWD at the next meeting. He stated as staff
receives more information he would like to look into changing the Municipal Code to
require any septic go to an advance treatment unit which means any water would be
clean as what EVMWD is currently pumping into the lake. He stated if that option
would not work then the other route to take is to either put a moratorium in the area
or try to gain funding for development of septic systems.
i Commissioner Flores stated septic systems in the Country Club Heights area have
been a concern of his and recommended to also look at percolation testing. He
suggested having the Water District attend the meeting as well.
Commissioner Zanelli concurred with the recommendations and suggested having a
representative from Riverside Health Department available to answer any questions
that the Commission may have regarding the processing.
Deputy City Attorney Santana suggested that the City Council should be involved as
well and proposed a Joint Study Session with Council and Planning Commission.
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Commissioner Mendoza suggested having a presentation first with EVMWD and
then a Joint Study Session including City Council.
STAFF COMMENTS
Public Works Director/City Engineer Seumalo commented on the following:
• He spoke of the Capitol Improvement Project on Franklin Street which is going to
City Council for award.
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PLANNING COMMISSIONER'S COMMENTS
Chairman O'Neal commented on the following:
• Absent
Vice-Chairman Gonzales commented on the following:
• He spoke of Canyon Hills Club House and how beautiful it is.
Commissioner Mendoza commented on the following:
• He spoke of the improvements to the shopping center on Mission Trail and how
great it looks.
Commissioner Flores commented on the following:
• He commented on how fortunate the City is having the new bowling alley and enjoys
watching the activities that takes place there. However, he stated he does not like
the minimal landscaping. He requested staff to move forward and ask the applicant
to enhance the landscaping according to the City's standards. Director of
Community Development Preisendanz replied by saying the owner promised the
City that he would landscape however has not followed though. He stated he would
discuss the situation with the City's Code Enforcement Department.
Commissioner Zanelli commented on the following:
He spoke of the graffiti on the walls at Trevi Lanes Bowling Alley and stated that the
suspects were caught. He stated City staff contacted the local newspaper hoping
they would publish an article about the incident however refused to do so. He
indicated that he was disappointed to learn the newspaper would not support the
r City.
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j ADJOURNMENT
It was the consensus of the Commission to adjourn to the October 02, 2007, Regular
Planning Commission meeting at 6:00 p.m. located at 183 N. Main Street, Lake
Elsinore, CA. 92530.
Vice-Chairman Gonzales adjourned the meeting at 7:52 p.m.
HN GONZAL VI, -CHAIRMAN
PLANNING COMMI ION
Re ectfully Submi e ,
DA PORCH
OFFICE SPECIALIST III
ATTEST:
TO WEINER
ACTING DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT
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