HomeMy WebLinkAbout04-04-2006 NAHMINUTES
PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
183 NORTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CA 92530
TUESDAY, APRIL 4, 2006
CALL TO ORDER:
Chairman O'Neal called the Regular Planning Commission Meeting to order at 6:00 PM.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE:
Leonard Leichnitz led the Pledge of Allegiance.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: COMMISSIONERS: O'NEAL, GONZALES, FLORES &
LARIMER
ABSENT: COMMISSIONERS: NONE
Also present were: Community Development Director Preisendanz, City Engineer
Seumalo, Deputy City Attorney Santana, Senior Planner Harris, Project Planner Miller,
Associate Planner Resendiz, Associate Planner Carlson, and City Clerk Ray.
OATH OF OFFICE
City Clerk Ray administered Oath of Office to Jimmy Flores as the new Planning
Commissioner.
PUBLIC COMMENTS INon-A¢endized items)
Chairman O'Neal introduced Deputy City Attorney Santana and indicated that she would be
replacing Deputy City Attorney Miles.
Agenda Item No.
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CONSENT CALENDAR
1. Minutes
a. Regular Planning Commission Minutes of March 7, 2006
Chairman O'Neal pulled Item's No. 2, 3, and 4 of the Consent Calendaz. He indicated that
there were only a few questions that the Commission has, and therefore would not be
necessary for Staff to read their reports.
2. Minor Desien Review of a Sinele-Family Residence located at 31118 Wisconsin
Street (APN: 379-202-0171.
Commissioner Flores asked Staff if fire hydrants would be within 500 foot radius of the
project.
Associate Planner Carlson indicated that there is a will-serve letter that applicant received
from the EVMWD. He also stated that Condition No. 15 of the Conditions of Approval state
that the applicant must meet the requirements of the Count? Fire Department for the fire
protecfion.
Community Development Director Preisendanz indicated that EVMWD and the Fire
Department reviews the plans as to the location of the fire hydrants and feels that there is
adequate fire protection.
4. Minor Desien Review of a Sinele-Family Residence located at 418 East Hill Street
(APN: 377-312-0041.
Commissioner Flores noted that the residence at 418 E. Hill Street has the same issues.
Community Development Director Preisendanz indicated that this project belongs to Project
Planner Miller and referred the question to her.
Project Planner Miller stated that it is the same answer as the previous project. She stated
that the Water and Fire Department feel that this house has adequate fire protection.
Commission Flores asked about the sewer facilities in the azea.
Agenda Item No.
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Josh Edwards, the applicant for the project stated that the sewer would be located in the alley
way at the rear of the project.
Commissioner Gonzales requested the percentage of the driveway.
Josh Edwards stated that the driveway would be less than 12%. He indicated that at the
lower section would almost be level.
Commissioner Gonzales asked Community Development Director Preisendanz if all new
houses must have fire sprinklers.
Community Development Director Preisendanz stated "No", they must have fire protection
such as a fire hydrant, but not fire sprinklers. He stated that all new single-family home
projects are reviewed by the Fire Department.
Chairman O'Neal stated that before he can request for a Motion, he wanted to point out that
the drawings barely meet minimum standards.
There being no further discussion, Chairman O'Neal requested a Motion.
MOVED BY LARIMER, SECONDED BY FLORES
AND PASSED BY A VOTE OF 4-0 TO APPROVE
THE CONSENT CALENDAR.
PUBLIC HEARING ITEMS
4. Tentative Condominium Mau No. 33820, Conditional Use Permit No. 2005-10 and
Residential Design Review No. 2005-11 for "Marina Village".
6:11:41 PM Chairman O'Neal opened the Public Hearing.
Community Development Director Preisendanz indicated that this project is a request to
approve Tentative Condominium Map No. 33820, Conditional Use Permit No. 2005-10 and
Residential Design Review No. 2005-11 for Marina Village. He requested Senior Planner
Harris to review the project with the Commission, and answer any questions that they may
have.
Senior Planner Harris states that the item before the Commission is request for 46
condominium buildings and 92 individually owned condominium units with related
Agenda I[em No.
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Chairman O'Neal asked Mr. Gord if he has read and agrees to the Condifions of Approval
include the amended Condition No. 32.
Mr. Gord stated "Yes".
Mr. Gord gave a brief overview of the project and indicated that they would be available for
any questions that the Commission may have.
6:29:13 PM Chairman O'Neal closed the Public Heazing.
Commissioner Gonzales asked if this is a gated Community.
Mr. Gord stated "No".
Commissioner Gonzales asked if these homes were on the market right now, what they
would sell for.
Mr. Gord stated "Around $250,000 - $300,000 range, but that is speculative".
Commissioner Gonzales asked Staff, what a tech room is.
Mr. Gord indicated that it is a desk area that would accommodate computers and is equipped
for an Internet service.
Commissioner Gonzales had no further comments.
Vice Chairman Larimer stated that she liked the idea of the courtyazds, bridges, trails and the
recreational center. She also liked the idea that the developer likes to promote a
neighborhood feeling, which is important. She asked the azchitect if he has incorporated the
universal design into this project.
Mr. Gord stated that the project meets the ADA requirements.
Gary Cunningham. Architect, stated that the project does not have all of the elements
however it could accommodate some of the elements, such as anti-scalding devices, and
wider hallways. He stated that this is a three (3) story project that could have grab-bars
installed at the buyer request.
Mr. Gord stated that they do have options available for the individual customer, those
particular ideas could be selected.
Vice Chairman Larimer stated that it would be easier to accommodate items at the building
process rather than at a later date.
Agenda Item No.
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Vice Chairman Larimer asked about the current mazket value.
Gary Cunningham stated that mixing land uses is very complicated. He stated that given the
proximity location of this property next to the lake, it is set some distance from the
Commercial core. He stated that the area is a Residential Community. He stated that
interjecting a mixed use comes with certain problems, such as increased traffic. He stated
that D.R. Horton did not feel that this was a compatible use.
Vice Chairman Larimer asked Chairman O'Neal if this project was ever discussed at a
General Plan Advisory Meeting.
Chairman O'Neal stated "Yes".
Vice Chairman Larimer asked if this area was the same area that the committee wanted
something more substantial.
Chairman O'Neal stated that there was some concern expressed by the General Plan
Committee about this particular use. He stated that his personal opinion is that this
particular project is an exceptional project. He stated that this project was discussed with
Mayor Magee and both of them felt that this was a bird in the hand, and needs to be
developed now. He stated that this project would allow perhaps more foot traffic along Main
Street, which would be welcomed by the Commercial projects in that area.
Vice Chairman Larimer asked Community Development Director Preisendanz about the
Universal Design.
Community Development Director Preisendanz stated that the Universal Design must have a
Condition of Approval that would require a certain detail of construction techniques like
blocking in the walls. He stated that the City always looks at the building plans, but not
necessarily at the walls. He stated that it may slip through the cracks, if it is not conditioned.
He stated that typically the Planning Commission does not condition the project for interior
design or accommodation. He indicated that the Building Official would require addressing
ADA issues.
Vice Chairman Larimer expressed that she feels that the City should be leaders and not
followers, instead of saying, "Well, it's not required".
Commissioner Flores asked the applicant if curbs, gutters, and a sidewalk would be placed on
the opposite side where the two existing homes are.
Mr. Gord stated "Yes".
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Community Development Director Preisendanz stated that the General Plan cross-section
calls for both sides to have sidewalks.
Commissioner Flores noted that the existing sidewalk on Spring Street is cracked. He asked
if that area was included in the Conditions.
Mr. Gord stated "Yes".
Commissioner Flores asked if the repairs would also include Limited Street.
Community Development Director Preisendanz stated only up to the Center line plus 12 feet
Commissioner Flores noted that the sidewalk and crosswalk is not handicap accessible.
City Engineer Seumalo stated that the City has met with the project team and the intersection
was discussed. He stated that the City's Traffic Engineer has similar concerns about
handicap access. He stated that they did discuss on having asphalt access ramps. He stated
that it is not a requirement, however it has not been ruled out.
Mr. Gord stated that he would agree to have handicap accessibility put in as long as it is
behind the curb and not into the street without any right-of--way issue.
Community Development Director Preisendanz stated that he was sure if this could be
accomplished.
Mr. Gord stated that if this becomes a problem, then they would meet with Staff to discuss
further.
Mr. Seumalo stated that the main concern would be the ramp.
Mr. Gord stated that they would need to look at the ADA requirements to make sure that
there are no violations.
Commissioner Flores asked what the time factor is.
Mr. Gord stated that it would be complete prior to occupancy.
Commissioner Flores had no further comments.
Chairman O'Neal informed Staff and the audience that he would need to re-open the Public
Hearing to allow the Public to comment for this project.
6:55:46 PM Chairman O'Neal opened the Public Hearing.
Agenda Item No.
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Mr. Hinkle, Grand Avenue, Lake Elsinore asked the projected time on construction.
Mr. Gord stated that the construction schedule (pending on City Council's approval) would
take between 8 to 10 months from today date.
Mr. Compose, Lake Elsinore asked if the view for the existing homes along Spring Street
would be jeopardized.
Mr. Gord stated that the elevations on Spring Street are a combination. He indicated that the
site would be lowered; however, there is no guarantee that you would still be able to see the
lake along Spring Street.
6:59:04 PM Chairman O'Neal closed the Public Hearing.
Chairman O'Neal stated that what ever happens in the future shouldn't have any effect on
what happens to the plan today.
Vice Chairman Lazimer asked the applicant if they have other projects like this one.
Mr. Gord stated "Yes, we have a total of three". In fact, he stated "I live in one".
Vice Chairman Larimer stated that this is a beautiful project. She stated that she can tell that
they have worked very hard. She stated that she would like to see more of a landmark in that
area, and therefore would not be in support of the project, but feels it would pass anyway.
MOVED BY GONZALES, SECONDED BY FLORES
AND PASSED BY A VOTE OF 3-1 WITH LARIMER
OPPOSING, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING
COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE,
CALIFORNIA APPROVING CONDITIONAL USE
PERMIT NO. 2005-10 FOR THE ESTABLISHMENT
OF "MARINA VILLAGE" A RESIDENTIAL
CONDOMINIUM COMMUNITY, TO BE LOCATED
AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF LAKESHORE
DRIVE AND SPRING STREET, ASSESSOR PARCEL
NUMBER(S) 374-271-003, 004, 007, 013, 015 AND 016.
MOVED BY GONZALES, SECONDED BY FLORES
AND PASSED BY A 3-1 VOTE WITH LARIMER
OPPOSING, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING
COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE,
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CALIFORNIA, RECOMMENDING TO THE CITY
COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE,
APPROVAL OF MITIGATED NEGATIVE
DECLARATION NO. 2005-11 FOR MARINA
VILLAGE RESIDENTIAL CONDOMINIUM
PROJECT.
MOVED BY GONZALES, SECONDED BY FLORES
AND PASSED BY A 3-1 VOTE WITH LARIMER
OPPOSING, A RESOLUTION OF THE PLANNING
COMMISSION OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE,
CALIFORNIA, RECOMMENDING CITY COUNCIL
APPROVAL OF TENTATIVE CONDOMINIUM MAP
NO. 33820 FOR "MARINA VILLAGE" A
RESIDENTIAL CONDOMINIUM COMM[JNITY TO
BE LOCATED AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF
LAKESHORE DRIVE AND SPRING STREET,
ASSESSOR PARCEL NUMBER(S) 374-271-003, 004,
007,013, 015 AND 016.
None
INFORMATIONAL
None
STAFF COMMENTS
Community Develobment Dixectox Pxesendanz commented on the followin
• He wished Commissioner Larimer farewell and stated it was a pleasure working with
her. He noted that he would take all of her comments seriously.
• He thanked City Clerk Ray for taking the Minutes of the meeting.
• He welcomed Commissioner Flores to the Planning Commission.
City Engineer Seumalo commented on the followingz
• He welcomed Commissioner Flores to the Commission.
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• He also bid fazewell to Commissioner Larimer, indicated that he had a good time while
she served as the Commissioner.
• He welcomed Deputy City Attorney Santana.
PLANNING COMMISSIONER COMMENTS
Commissioner Flores commented on the followine:
• He enjoyed working with Commissioner Larimer.
• He also thanked those who gave him the opportunity to become a Planning
Commissioner as well as the City Staff.
• He thanked Mr. Gord for the review of his project and those who gave their public
comments. He stated that his door is always open for any future construction that
needs to be discussed.
Vice Chairman Lazimer commented on the followine:
• She welcomed Mr. Flores to the Planning Commission.
• She welcomed Deputy City Attorney Santana.
• She stated that she has truly enjoyed working as a Commissioner and thanked
everyone for allowing her to be outspoken. She stated that she did her best serving as
a Commissioner and will miss the community but would still be available for
discussing any project, as would only be an hour away.
Commissioner Gonzales commented on the followine:
• He welcomed Commissioner Flores to the Commission.
• He welcomed Deputy City Attorney Santana.
• He gave a brief report from the League of City's meeting that he attended. He stated
that the main concern with the League is the conservation of water.
Chairman O'Neal commented on the followine:
• He welcomed Commissioner Flores to the Commission. He stated that he has known
Commissioner Flores for many years, and agrees that he does in fact have anopen-
doorpolicy.
• He welcomed Deputy City Attorney Santana to the meetings, and looks forwazd to
working with her.
• He wished Commissioner Larimer farewell. He stated that she has made a strong
contribution to the City and has represented herself very well.
Agenda Item No.
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ADJOURNMENT
THERE BEING NO FURTHER BUSINESS, CHAIRMAN O'NEAL
THE MEETING AT 7:14:14 PM ON APRIL 4,~fIQ(i. /
Respectfully Submitted,
Dana C. Porche'
Office Specialist III
ATTEST:
Rolfe Preisendanz,
Director of Community Development
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