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CITY COUNCIL
REGULAR MEETING
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
EVMWD BOARDROOM, 31315 CHANEY STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA
TUESDAY, AUGUST 13, 2013
CITY COUNCIL CLOSED SESSION
None
CALL TO ORDER - 7:00 P.M.
Mayor Magee called the meeting to order at 7:02 p.m.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
Council Member Manos led the pledge of allegiance.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: Mayor Magee
Mayor Pro Tern Johnson
Council Member Manos
Council Member Tisdale
ABSENT: Council Member Hickman
Also present: City Manager Yates, City Attorney Leibold, City Clerk Bloom, Administrative
Services Director Riley, Community Development Director Taylor, Planning Manager
MacHott, Lake, Parks, and Recreation Director Kilroy, Public Works Director Seumalo,
Police Chief Kennedy- Smith, Fire Chief Barr, Management Analyst Dailey, and Deputy City
Clerk Gutierrez.
CLOSED SESSION REPORT
None
PRESENTATIONS / CEREMONIALS
Update on Falls Fire by City Fire Chief
Introduction of new City Police Lt. David Knudson
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Fire Chief Barr provided a chronology of the Fall Fire, an overview of the resource
management and assignments, and costs incurred. Chief Barr also gave an account of the
evacuations and resources for structure defense at Lakeland Village.
Mayor Magee expressed his gratitude to Chief Barr and all firefighters on behalf of the
citizens of the valley.
Peter Lent, Deputy Director of OES (Office of Emergency Services), informed Council that
geologists from Caltrans, Riverside County and the National Forest will assess the flood
areas for debris flow during the rainy season and keep the City informed of their findings.
Council Member Manos expressed his concerns of how the mud flow would affect the
quality of the lake water and asked if that is something that can be mitigated. Mr. Lent
responded that the water district will also be part of the team to look at what mitigations can
be implemented.
Mayor Magee recognized the efforts and good work of Caltrans and Director Basem
Muallen for their prompt response to the Falls Fire before the fire was contained and for
opening the Ortega Road within a week of the fire.
Chief Kennedy -Smith introduced new City Police Lieutenants Knudson and Hall to the
Council and the community.
PUBLIC COMMENTS — NON- AGENDIZED ITEMS — 1 MINUTE
Lindsey Collin introduced Gravity X Dance Studio in the City of Lake Elsinore and
announced their enrollment for classes and workshops offered at the dance studio.
Mayor Magee announced Consent Item Nos. 3, 5, 7, and 9 to be pulled from the Consent
Calendar for discussion.
CONSENT CALENDAR
(1) Approval of Minutes
Recommendation: It is recommended that the City Council approve the Minutes of
the Regular City Council Meeting of July 23, 2013.
(2) Warrant List dated July 25 2013
Recommendation: It is recommended that the City Council receive and file the
Warrant list dated July 25, 2013.
(4) Residential Design Review No 2013 -03 - A Request by Ryland Homes for Approval
of Building Designs for 106 Single - Family Detached Residential Units Including a
Model Home Complex and Related Improvements for a Housing Project Located
Within the Summerly Development of the East Lake Specific Plan
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Recommendation: It is recommended that the City Council:
(A)Adopt Resolution No. 2013 -050 A Resolution of the City Council of the City of
Lake Elsinore Adopting Findings that the Project is consistent with the Multiple
Species Habitat Conservation Plan (MSHCP); and
(B)Adopt Resolution No. 2013 -051 A Resolution of the City Council of the City of
Lake Elsinore Approving Residential Design Review No. 2013 -03, based on the
Findings and Exhibits, and subject to the attached Conditions of Approval.
(6) Location of Country Club Heights Survey Benchmarks Contract Award
Recommendation: It is recommended that the City Council:
(A) Award the professional contract to KDM Meridian in the amount of $35,000 for
the replacement of survey benchmarks in Country Club Heights area; and
(B)Authorize the Mayor to execute the contract with KDM Meridian.
(8) City Protect No 4375 Speed Reader /Feedback Signs Program Supplement
Agreement No N007 to Administering Agency -State Agreement No. 08 -5074R for
Federal Aid Proiects
Recommendation: It is recommended that the City Council:
(A) Adopt Resolution No. 2013 -053 approving and authorizing execution of the
Federal Safe Routes to School (SRTSL- 5074(014)) Program Supplement
Agreement No.N007 to Administering Agency -State Agreement No. 08 -5074R and
all subsequent SRTSL- 5074(014) project specific Program Supplements;
(B) Authorize the City Manager to sign SRTSL- 5074(014) Program Supplement No.
N007 and all subsequent SRTSL- 5074(014) project specific Program Supplement
Agreements; and
(C) Authorize the City Clerk to return the signed agreement, in duplicate, to Caltrans
Office of Local Programs for execution.
Motion by Council Member Manos, seconded by Mayor Pro Tern Johnson to approve the
Consent Calendar, less Agenda Item Nos. 3, 5, 7, and 9; passed by unanimous vote.
CONSENT ITEMS PULLED
(3) Industrial Design Review No. 2013 -01 — A Request for a 7,500 Square foot
Warehouse /Manufacturing Building Addition and Associated Improvements to an
Existing Industrial Building Located at 403 Minthorn Street.
Recommendation: It is recommended that the City Council adopt Resolution No.
2013 -049 A Resolution of the City Council of the City of Lake Elsinore, California.
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Approving Industrial Design Review No. 2013 -01; A Request to Add a 7,500 Square -
Foot Addition to the Existing Thermal Electronics, Inc. Industrial Building Located at
403 Minthorn Street.
Council Member Manos asked regarding the amendment of the word "shall" to "may" for
Condition of Approval No. 69. Planning Manager MacHott explained that the applicant had an
option of either constructing the improvements on Collier Avenue or may pay in lieu fees.
Council Member Manos asked if there would be any street closures during the curb and
sidewalk improvements. Public Works Director Seumalo responded that Collier Avenue will
have significant traffic control to allow two -way traffic. Council Member Manos asked if the
applicant is going to provide jobs. City Manager Yates responded that the business is an aero
defense contractor that has back orders and will be hiring new employees. City Manager Yates
also advised that staff will be taking the City's Economic Development subcommittee on a
business retention visit to better understand if the company will be hiring short or long term.
Motion by Council Member Manos, seconded by Council Member Tisdale, to adopt Resolution
No. 2013 -049 a Resolution of the City Council of the City of Lake Elsinore, California
approving Industrial Design Review No. 2013 -01; a Request to add a 7,500 square -foot
addition to the existing Thermal Electronics, Inc. industrial building located at 403 Minthorn
Street; passed by unanimous vote.
(5) Community Facilities District No. 2005 -2 (Alberhill Ranch) Improvement Area B:
Altering the Rate and Method of Apportionment of Special Taxes and Reducing
Maximum Bond Authorization
Recommendation: It is recommended that the City Council adopt Resolution No.
2013 -052 of Consideration to alter the rate and method of apportionment of an
existing special tax relating to Improvement Area B of City of Lake Elsinore
Community Facilities District No. 2005 -2 (Alberhill Ranch).
Administrative Director Riley provided an overview to Council. City Clerk Bloom read for the
record email correspondence received on this item from Ms. Gallina and Ms. Tehrani.
Sharon Gallina, resident, stated that she bought her home in 2005 in Alberhill Ranch and that
on August 9th it was brought to her attention that Castle & Cooke were requesting a bond to
reduce the Community Facilities District taxes for Area B. She stated that Alberhill residents
are upset because their commitment to purchase a home in the Alberhill Ranch CFD extends
back to 2005. Ms. Gallina stated the tax assessment disclosure states that all perspective
purchases in CFD 2005 A, B, and C would have to pay the same Mello -Roos taxes. She
offered that if the taxes in area B are reduced, then who is going to want to buy her home.
Paulie Tehrani, resident, stated that she lives on Ash Street in CFD 2005 -A and would like to
see Council wait on this matter since the housing market is climbing. She stated that houses
are selling and the values of their homes are increasing therefore, if the City waits the bonds
will be higher and closer to what they are presently paying for CFD 2005 -A which is 2.86 %.
Ms. Tehrani stated that the proposed lower assessments will be a 62% less from what she is
currently paying and the new homeowners will have full access to the same facilities. She
asked if there will be money to complete the improvements they were promised when she
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purchased her home. Ms. Tehrani implored Council to table Agenda Item No. 5 to a later date
and take into consideration what Council can do to help home owners that will be affected.
Mayor Magee asked if this was a discretionary action. Danny Kim, Bond Counsel with Norton,
Rose, and Fulbright, responded that action on this item is discretionary. Mayor Magee stated
Council could deny, table, or approve the Resolution. Mr. Kim concurred with Mayor Magee.
Tom Tomlinson, representative of Castle & Cooke stated that he did not understand how
lowering the tax rate would devalue the homeowner's house. He stated Castle & Cooke is
trying to get the tax rate aligned with the current housing market and with what people can
afford. Mr. Tomlinson stated if the property values go up there will be more bond capital
available. He also stated that by lowering the bond rate they have more money for the
improvements from the home and lot sales. Mr. Tomlinson said that Castle & Cooke feels it is
a better situation to have a lower tax rate.
Mayor Magee asked about Castle & Cooke's existing customers that have already purchased
homes. There is a reduction table that shows that new home buyers would be paying
significantly less tax rate. Mr. Tomlinson concurred with Mayor Magee and offered that homes
that were bought in a different market and time, and the values did dropped. The portion that
goes against the CFD is fixed and so the overall percentage is higher. Mayor Magee stated
that as a decision Council struggles with what they see as a potential penalty to Castle &
Cooke's existing customers and City constituents. Mayor Magee pointed out that Lake Elsinore
is the fastest growing city in the county and third fastest growing city in the state and yet Castle
& Cooke is not building anything. Mr. Tomlinson stated that there is a different philosophy at.
Castle & Cooke's corporate office on whether or not they will be building or selling lots. Mayor
Magee stated that the City does not have an answer from Castle & Cooke regarding the
schedule of improvements which are significant to the community and those that are 5 to 10
years away. Mr. Tomlinson stated that it depends on how quickly the projects are built out.
Mayor Pro Tem Johnson stated that the tax rate in Area B is being reduced to make it in line to
be affordable. Mr. Tomlinson stated that there is an industry-wide move to try to reduce CFD
taxes on developments. He stated that there is a change in their industry that has changed
how things are approved and what builders can actually pay for. Mayor Pro Tem Johnson
stated she heard Mr. Tomlinson say that Ryland Homes are selling at the same tax rate. Mr.
Tomlinson responded in affirmative. Mayor Pro Tem Johnson asked what is the purpose of
lower the tax rate if they are selling at the higher tax rate. He answered that Castle & Cooke
want to lower the overall tax rate on the development. Mayor Pro Tem Johnson stated that
Council heard from constituents that this would decrease the value of their homes, and asked
why would we lower the tax rate in Area B and keep Area A at a higher tax rate; and asked
what benefit does it have for the homeowners to stay. Mr. Tomlinson replied that the existing
property owners bought at a certain price and tax rate, however no one would have anticipated
house values being cut in half.
Council Member Manos stated the perception is that there is a win or loss for the developer,
however the improvements don't change, just the method of how they are financed. Council
Member Manos expressed his dislike for CFDs because they mask the true cost of home
ownerships. It is his opinion that this is a solid request by the developer because it creates
transparency for the true cost of homeownership for future homebuyers in that area.
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Council Member Manos expressed that if there is a way to reduce the CFD tax rates for the
new homeowners, he is in favor of it.
Council Member Tisdale asked why Area C was not included in this request. Mr. Tomlinson
responded that it was the consultant's suggestion to look at Area C at a later time. Council
Member Tisdale stated that by lowering the tax rate, does this mean there is potential to build
there. Mr. Tomlinson replied by lowering the tax rate it encourages builders to come and build.
Council Member Tisdale stated that this item requires a public hearing and participation of the
property owners and asked who the property owners are. Administrative Services Director
Riley responded that Castle & Cooke is the only property owner. Council Member Tisdale
asked Administrative Director Riley where Area A falls in review of the
City's CFDs for refunding. Director Riley responded that he asked Mr. Gunn, the City's
financial consultant, and unfortunately because of the change in bond rates in recent months
the homeowners are actually paying a better rate now as opposed to a refunding.
Council Member Manos asked if there was a disproportion to allocations for improvements in
Area A. Administrative Director Riley stated that it was his understanding that homeowners in
Area A did not pay more as it was equally split over the three (3) areas and the maximum
special taxes and bonded indebtedness was established for each improvement area at that
time. Council Member Manos asked if by reducing the tax rate in Area A, does it not create a
burden or potential increase in cost in Area A. Director Riley responded in the affirmative and
stated that it is separate bond issue for that area.
Mayor Magee, expressed his concern that he did not understand the impacts on the existing
homeowners and the roadway improvement that the City was promised. He asked why Area
A can't be added to this refinance. Danny Kim explained that Area A has already issued bonds
and so there are bond owners that were promised that the CFD would be levying taxes at a
certain rate. He added that once you start reducing that security for the bond holder then you
are subjecting yourself to an action by the bond holders for impairing their rights under the
bond documents. That is the reason why they are hamstrung from being able to modify the
improvement Area A taxes.
Motion by Council Member Tisdale, seconded by Mayor Magee, to table this item to February
2014 with direction to staff to address the impacts on the existing homeowners and the timing
of the significant infrastructure of the entire area; passed by a vote of 3 -1 with Council Member
Manos opposing.
(7) Annual Slurry Seal Program Summerhill Drive from Canyon Estates to Via De La
Valle Project No. 4391
Recommendation: It is recommended that the City Council Award the Annual Slurry
Seal Program for Summerhill Drive (Canyon Estates Drive to Via De La Valle) to
Pavement Coating Company in the amount of $213,932.00 with a 10% contingency.
Council Member Tisdale stated that the original cost for this project is $470,000 and the bid
came in at $213,932. Public Works Director Seumalo affirmed. Council Member Tisdale asked
what the City is going do with the savings. Public Works Director Seumalo responded that
there are several requests for road improvements that staff is currently evaluating. Council
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Member Tisdale stated it is good news when the City saves money and the costs of projects
are less than anticipated.
Motion by Council Member Tisdale, seconded by Council Member Manos, to award the Annual
Slurry Seal Program for Summerhill Drive (Canyon Estates Drive to Via De La Valle) to
Pavement Coating Company in the amount of $213,932.00 with a 10% contingency; passed
by a unanimous vote.
(9) Award of Contract to Bucknam & Associates for Pavement Management Program
Recommendation: It is recommended that the City Council authorize the City
Manager to execute a three year service contract (including annual reviews by staff
and approval by City Council) with Bucknam & Associates for pavement condition
and preservation recommendations.
Council Member Manos stated that this company has had a contract with the City for three (3)
years and he has never seen a report. Council Member Manos asked what type of service the
company provided. Public Works Director Seumalo responded that they provide a status report
of street conditions and maintenance recommendations. He added that the lack of funding and
the deferring of maintenance only expands the costs. Council Member Manos asked for a copy
of the report.
City Manager Yates pointed out that staff has been focusing on paving dirt roads for the last
five (5) years and that it is planned to bring a detailed plan on all the slurry seals and road
improvement programs in the next few months.
Motion by Council Member Manos, seconded by Council Member Tisdale, to authorize the City
Manager to execute a three year service contract (including annual reviews by staff and
approval by City Council) with Bucknam & Associates for pavement condition and preservation
recommendations; passed by a unanimous vote.
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(10) Specific Plan Amendment No 2013 -02 — The Tenth Amendment to the East Lake
Specific Plan to (1) Change the Land Use Designation of Planning Area 46 From
Open Space to Residential -1 Which Allows Up to 6 Dwelling Units Per Acre. The
Total Number of Residential Units in the Approved East Lake Specific Plan Will Not
Change: and (2) to Amend the Design Review Process to Designate the Planning
Commission as the Final Decision -Maker on Residential Design Review Projects.
Revision to Tentative Tract Map No. 31920 — Consistent With the Proposed Specific
Plan Amendment change in the Land Use Designation of Planning Area 46 from
Open Space to Residential -1 which allows up to 6 Dwelling Units Per Acre: a
Revision to Tentative Tract Map No 31920 is Proposed to Create 17 Single - Familv
Residential Lots. Environmental Clearance for the Protects are Provided by the Final
EIR for the East Lake Specific Plan, in Conformance with the California
Environmental Quality Act (CEQA
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Recommendation: It is recommended that the City Council:
(A) Waive further reading and introduce by title only Ordinance No. 2013- 1316AN
ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
APPROVING SPECIFIC PLAN AMENDMENT NO. 2013 -02, AMENDMENT NO. 10,
TO THE EAST LAKE SPECIFIC PLAN, by roll call vote;
(B) Adopt Resolution No. 2013 -055 Resolution of the City Council of the City of
Lake Elsinore Approving a Revision to Tentative Tract Map No. 31920, subject to
the recommended Conditions of Approval.
Mayor Magee opened public hearing at 8:06 p.m. Planning Manager MacHott provided an
overview to Council. There being no speakers, Mayor Magee closed the public hearing at
8:11 p.m.
Council Member Tisdale moved staffs recommendation, which was seconded by Council
Member Manos.
Mayor Magee expressed his concern about designating the Planning Commission as the
final decision -maker of the Residential Design Review process. He asked City Attorney
Leibold if the City could implement a mechanism that advises the City Council that an
action has been taken by the Planning Commission and that Council have an opportunity of
appeal. City Attorney Leibold responded that there are a number of ways Council could go
about it; Council could impose a provision that allows for.the Planning Commission to take
action and then City Council have a 'receive and file" on its Consent Calendar and in the
event that Council wants to hear the item it would schedule the item for a hearing for the
following Council meeting. Another option is that Council can keep the existing process
where design review comes to Council or it could adopt a ministerial administrative process
where staff notifies the Council after every Planning Commission meeting of the actions
taken.
Council Member Manos noted that all utilities to be placed underground except for power
lines over 12,000 KV. Public Works Director Seumalo responded that the limit of 34.5 KV is
not permitted underground.
Mayor Magee stated that he still did not have resolution on the safeguard of having staff
advise Council and that it has not worked in the past. He asked if having the Design
Review come to the Council as a 'receive and file' would delay the applicant an extra two
or three weeks. City Attorney Leibold responded that it could delay the applicant and
although the item would be presented as a Consent Calendar item and not a public
hearing, the 'receive and file' process would allow for a second meeting to 'consider" the
matter if the Council requested review. The process has the potential to cause further delay
and does not provide for final action by the Planning Commission which is what the
applicant has requested.
Mayor Magee stated that the City has an excellent Planning Commission at the present
time, but it does not mean that the Planning Commission will always stay the same. Mayor
Magee stated that he would feel more comfortable with safeguards in place and asked to
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amend the motion to include all items approved by the Planning Commission to come as a
"receive and file" to the City Council and the City Council can appeal for the Design
Review.
Council Member Tisdale moved, and Council Member Manos seconded, to waive further
reading and introduce by title only Ordinance No. 2013 -1316; and to include all items
approved by the Planning Commission to come as "received and file" to the City Council
and the City Council can appeal the Design Review. City Clerk Bloom read Ordinance No
2013 -1316 by title and upon a roll call vote, the motion passed unanimously.
Council Member Manos moved, and seconded by Mayor Pro Tem Johnson, to adopt
Resolution No. 2013 -055 a Resolution of the City Council of the City of Lake Elsinore
approving a revision to Tentative Tract Map No. 31920, subject to the recommended
Conditions of Approval; passed by a unanimous vote.
(11) Resolution of the City Council of the City of Lake Elsinore, California, Establishing
Underground Utility District No 3 Lakeshore Drive from Mohr Street to Chanev
Street
Recommendation: It is recommended that the City Council adopt the Resolution No.
2013 -054 Resolution of the City Council of the City of Lake Elsinore, California,
declaring the formation of Underground Utility District No. 3, Lakeshore Drive from
Mohr Street to Chaney Street, and ordering removal and undergrounding of poles,
overhead wires, and associated overhead structures.
Mayor Magee opened the public hearing at 8:17 p.m. Public Works Director Seumalo
presented an overview to City Council. There being no speakers, Mayor Magee closed the
public hearing at 8:19 p.m.
Council Member Manos moved, seconded by Council Member Tisdale, to adopt Resolution
No. 2013 -054; motion passed by a unanimous vote.
Mayor Pro Tern Johnson stated that the staff report provides an estimated cost of the
project however the project will not start until 2015, does staff anticipate there being
enough money for the project. Public Works Director Seumalo responded that staff has had
this discussion with the City's Edison representative and feels confident.
APPEAL(S)
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BUSINESS ITEMS)
(12) Lake Use Fees for Motorized and Non - Motorized Vessels
Recommendation: It is recommended that the City Council authorize a temporary
waiver of Lake Use fees for non - motorized vessels that are not required to be
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registered by the Department of Motor Vehicles, effective immediately and
terminating December 31, 2013.
Lake, Parks, and Recreation Director Kilroy provided an overview to City Council.
Council Member Manos asked if the City could eliminate the fee permanently. Director
Kilroy responded that it may come to that when the rest of the lake use fees are presented
to Council, however this is the quickest way to grant relief while staff conducts research on
fees.
Mayor Pro Tern Johnson stated that the residents need to be informed that the non -
motorized vessels can be launched for free from the public beach.
Council Member Tisdale stated that he was fine with the City residents using the lake for
free, but that a lot of people that do not live in the City or pay taxes visit the lake. He stated
there should be special consideration for City residents.
Mayor Magee thanked Director Kilroy for his work. Mayor Magee also stated that he has
received a number of complaints this season from people that just want to use a paddle
board and were charged a fee and that he did not see that as reasonable. He shared the
concerns that visitors should pay a fee, so that the City can maintain its lake and parks.
Mayor Magee stated that one way might be to have staff look into what it takes for the City
to permit its own gas dock as there is no place to legally fuel up anywhere within the lake
perimeter. If staff we could find a way to permit a gas dock, the City could capture that
revenue.
Council Member Manos moved, seconded by Mayor Pro Tern Johnson, to authorize a
temporary waiver of Lake Use fees for non - motorized vessels that are not required to be
registered by the Department of Motor Vehicles, effective immediately and terminating
December 31, 2013; passed by a unanimous vote.
(13) Ordinance Amending Chapter 2.46 of the Lake Elsinore Municipal Code Regarding
Public Safety Advisory Commission; and Recruitment for the Public Safety Advisory
Commission
Recommendation: It is recommended that the City Council take the following actions
in regards to the Public Safety Advisory Commission:
(A) Waive further reading and introduce by title only Ordinance No. 2013 -
1317AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF LAKE
ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA, AMENDING TITLE 2, CHAPTER 2.46 PUBLIC SAFETY
ADVISORY COMMISSION; and
(B) Review the proposed timeline and direct staff to complete the recruitment to
fill existing vacancies on the Commission.
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City Manager Yates presented an overview to City Council. Management Analyst Dailey
provided an overview of the proposed recruitment and timeline for the appointments to the
Public Safety Advisory Commission.
Mayor Magee asked if the applicants who have already applied will continue to be
considered during this recruitment process. Management Assistant Dailey responded in the
affirmative.
Chris Hyland, resident, questioned the objective and need for the Public Safety Advisory
Commission. She also questioned the Commission Members' education and training to
address public safety issues and felt that those issues should be overseen by the
Engineering Department or Police Department. Ms. Hyland also stated that none of her
public safety concerns have been brought forth for the betterment of the citizens in Lake
Elsinore. Lastly, Ms. Hyland expressed her opinion to disband the Public Safety Advisory
Commission.
Council Member Manos stated that it was good for the community to access ways to
improve City committees and commissions. He noticed in the revised ordinance Section
2.46.060 (b) and (c) was no mention of lake safety; however, under section (d) PSAC is
being asked to reach out to organizations. Council Member Manos asked to add lake
safety to the scope for PSAC. He commented that PSAC has been fairly productive during
the past eight (8) years and noted good ideas that were implemented. Council Member
Manos liked the regular casual dialog between the public and PSAC which was conducive
to good ideas such as CERT; the Life Jacket Program, See Click Fix, High Speed Zone
Ordinance; loud party ordinance; restricted RV; hotel age check ordinance; panhandling
ordinance; newspaper box ordinance; traffic, graffiti ordinance; vicious dog ordinance, and
helped reestablished the multi - family crime free housing. Council Member Manos stated
that the Commission is valuable and productive and is in favor of maintaining the
Commission. He asked that lake safety and CERT oversight be added to the Ordinance.
Council Member Tisdale stated that when he came on the Council in 2010 the PSAC was
on hiatus for 18 months and Council brought the Commission back. There were some boat
dock issues. Council Member Tisdale stated that when he went to Lakeland Village to
address the boat dock issues however he did not remember any PSAC Commissioners
present to address safety issues on the Lake while he took a tongue lashing from Lakeland
Village residents. Council Member Tisdale noted inconsistencies, grammatical errors, and
conflicting verbiage throughout the ordinance. He had a problem with the recommendation
regarding the PSAC's role in the disaster plan preparedness and crisis management and
stated that these functions require special training and that Commissioners who are not
trained and certified in or understand NIMS, shouldn't be providing recommendations to
disaster preparedness. This function should be addressed by experts and presented to the
City Council. Lastly, he asked the City Manager to evaluate whether he believes that PSAC
can really serve a purpose. Council Member Tisdale stated that he attended PSAC
meetings and saw Commissioners badger staff by trying to test law enforcement, Fire
safety, and direct Parks and Lake personnel to do things. That is not the purpose of the
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PSAC and he is glad that this ordinance will more clearly define the Commissioners' roles.
He does not want another Commission that is going to take more time away from limited
staff or too much time at meetings. During the time of the PSAC hiatus, he did not receive a
lot of emails that indicated there were any problems in the City. He pointed out speeding
issues on Lake Street, but that issue was addressed by Public Works Director Seumalo.
He wants a commission that makes sense and not to cause hate and discontent.
Mayor Pro Tern Johnson pointed out a statement in Section 2.46.060 (i) as confusing
because it talks about hearing the citizens' complaints but then it relates to traffic. She
thinks that the City Council members have addressed that there should be more areas
within the scope of the PSAC and that if the PSAC is going to hear from our citizens it
should not just be traffic related concerns. She wants to underscore the bottom line to staff
to make sure that the section regarding citizen complaints should say "designated by the
City Manager or report back to citizens within a reasonable time period." She thinks that is
the key element to what citizens have expressed to Council. Mayor Pro Tern Johnson
asked for clarification of Section 2. Lastly, she asked that consistent language be added to
2.46.060 (A) and throughout the entire ordinance.
Mayor Magee recommended that this item be continued off calendar. He agreed with
Council Members Manos' suggestion to add lake safety as part of the PSAC oversight.
Mayor Magee expressed that he did not want CERT oversight by the Commission. He also
agreed with Council Member Tisdale and Mayor Pro Tern Johnson. A year and half ago
there was a study session where Council mandated that PSAC report quarterly to the City
Council and they failed to do that; that mandate also needs to be included in the
Ordinance. Regardless of whether it is a written or verbal presentation, there needs to be
accountability and the Commission needs to come in front of the Council to explain what it
is doing and why. When PSAC was approved in 2004 there was a feeling of
disenfranchisement between certain elements in the community and law enforcement.
Mayor Magee spoke about a shooting on his street that his son witnessed and that it took
40 minutes for a police officer to show up at the scene. Mayor Magee stated that the City
has dedicated resources to improve public safety and has driven down every category of
criminal behavior over the last decade. Council has made public safety its number one
priority. The PSAC has been on the books for 20 years through 2010 and it did some
outstanding work. This is the opportunity to refocus and give clear direction.
Mayor Magee moved, which was seconded by Council Member Tisdale, that staff consider
all the input received tonight, continue this item off calendar and bring this item back to
Council when the document is ready to be approved by this Council.
Mayor Pro Tern Johnson is concerned that by taking this item off calendar would delay the
recruitment process and asked how much longer the process be delayed. City Manager
Yates responded that staff can have this item back in 30 days, and the Commission can
still start in November or December of this year. Staff has clear direction to rewrite the
Ordinance and will rewrite the correct Ordinance with all of Council's comments
incorporated.
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Meeting of August 13, 2013
The motion passed by unanimous vote.
PUBLIC COMMENTS — NON - AGENDIZED ITEMS — 3 MINUTES
Julian Suarez addressed Council on behalf of the residents on Larson Road regarding a
gate located at the end of a trail on Larson Road. Mr. Suarez reported that this past year
there have been various incidents of loitering and pedestrian traffic on their street and there
has been an increase of graffiti and theft. He also spoke about a murder in which the
suspect escaped through the gate because it has public access. The residents are
requesting that the gate be closed by the City.
CITY MANAGER COMMENTS
None.
CITY ATTORNEY COMMENTS
None
CITY COUNCIL COMMENTS
Council Member Manos thanked the Commissioners that served on the PSAC for the past
eight (8) years. They are volunteers that gave their time and he appreciates what they have
done for the City. Council Member Manos stated that he had the opportunity to survey
damages caused by the Fall Fire and thanked Cal Fire, police, Forestry Service, American
Red Cross, Supervisor Kevin Jeffries, City staff, and colleges. Lastly, he thanked the
construction crew that worked on getting the Ortega Road open a week ahead of time.
Council Member Manos also acknowledged City of Temecula, Mayor Naggar and City of
Canyon Lake, City Manager Harrington for offering their support. He reminded the public
to stay vigilant about fire safety and disaster preparedness.
Council Member Tisdale welcomed the new police Lieutenants Knudson and Hall. He
stated that Cal Fire always does an excellent job and makes sure that the residents are
well protected. He also thanked Police Chief Kennedy -Smith and staff.
Mayor Pro Tern Johnson congratulated both Lieutenants Knudson and Hall and
congratulated Lieutenant Anne on his new assignment. She announced a Franchise
workshop on Thursday, August 15th at Storm Stadium from 11:30 a.m. to 1:30 p.m. She
also spoke about the emails that she received from an animal advocate petition for
"California Stop the Great Bull Run." She offered that there is no special event permit on
file. She offered that communication should be filtered through Bruce Keeton who will help
the public understand where the Lake Elsinore motor cross stands and where the event is
scheduled to be held. Mayor Pro Tern Johnson announced Jersey Mike's ribbon cutting
ceremony. That franchise was a collaboration between the Chamber of Commerce and
City of Lake Elsinore. She invited the public to visit the Jersey Mikes. Mayor Pro Tem
Johnson spoke about the Fall Fire and was impressed by how rapidly staff responded and
activated the Emergency Operation Center (EOC) activated. She reminded the public to
have their families prepared for these types of situations.
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Meeting of August 13, 2013
Mayor Magee thanked CERT team members; Trauma Intervention Counseling staff that
worked with people who were evacuated; and Animal Friends of the Valley for opening an
emergency animal shelter. He also stated that a local business owner showed up with 100
cheese burgers for the volunteers. Mayor Magee also spoke about the verbal and written
abuse received from the public for not being aggressive enough with Caltrans in getting the
roadway open. Staff will debrief from this emergency and improve. This Council recently
approved an insurance policy to covers the City's wild land fire areas, so the City is
covered. Mayor Magee also reported that the City has added three (3) fire stations over
the course of ten (10) years. Any thought of reducing fire protection services capabilities in
this county is not a prudent course of action and urged everyone to stay the course.
ADJOURNMENT
Mayor Magee adjourned this meeting at 9:04 p.m. to the next regularly scheduled meeting
to be held on Tuesday, August 27, 2013. The regular Closed Session meeting will be held
at 5:00 p.m. at City Hall and the regular Public meeting will be held at 7:00 p.m. at the
Elsinore Valley Municipal Water District (EVMWDI Boardroom located at 31315 Chaney
Street, Lake Elsinore, CA.
E. Magee,
Virginia JJBloonJ,JCity Clerk