HomeMy WebLinkAbout08-13-1992 City Council Study SessionMINUTES
CITY COUNCIL STUDY SESSION
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE .
130 S. MAIN STREET i
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA
THURSDAY, AUGUST 13, 1992
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CALL TO ORDER
Mayor Washburn called the Study Session to order at 3:10 p.m.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: ALONGI, CHERVENY, DOMINGUEZ, WINKLER, WASHBURN
ABSENT: COUNCILMEMBERSt NONE
DI3CUSSION ITEMS
1. Law Enforcement (F:127.2)
City Manager Molendyk introduced Captain Wayne Daniel and Chief Bob Doyle
and detailed the organizational structure of the Sheriff's Department.
Mayor Washburn commented briefly on the recent concerns for service and
local identity.
City Manager Molendyk advised that he had relayed the concerns with
responsiveness, County Procedure vs. City Procedure and crime reporting to
Chief Doyle recently.
Mayor Washburn advised that there is some confusion with the reporting
districts.
Captain Daniel explained that previously there have been only two reporting
districts for the entire City making specific statistics difficult to
pinpoint. He further explained that the City has now been broken into nine
reporting districts to assist in this area. He also explained the
variables by which these districts can be researched with the computer. Ne
detailed the method of assigning "beat" areas with primary and secondary
assignments. Chief Doyle clarified the primary and secondary coverage
assignments and flexibility within those areas.
Mayor Washburn questioned the time element and the ability to allow more
time in an area for recognition between officers and residents. Chief
Doyle emphasized the importance of rotating the officers so they are
familiar wiht the entire City.
Councilwoman Cherveny questioned the number of cars on duty and how the
beats are divided. Captain Daniels detailed the number of cars on duty in
a 24 hour period and the possible coverage areas. He stressed that they
can not staff for possibilities, however do plan the shifts and coverage to
meet the need for coverage based on statistical data. Chief Doyle
commented on the prioritization of calls and stressed the relationship
between priority level and response time.
Councilman Dominguez questioned the type of calls and the timing of calls
between midnight and 2 a.m'. Chief Doyle explained that the incoming calls
peak at approximately 7 p.m. and decline from there. He further explained
that the midnight to 2 a.m. time frame is typically the lightest time for
called for services.
City Treasurer Pape questioned the deployment levels. Captain Daniel
detailed the deployment with 2 officers from 2 a.m. to 10 a.m. and 4
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officers the rest of the day. Mr. Pape inquired whether this is
sufficient. Captain Daniel explained that this depends on the level of
service wanted. Chief Doyle commented on the improvements which have
occurred in this community and the impact on the sheriff's ability to serve
the City.
Councilman Winkler questioned the statistics presented. Chief Doyle
advised that with the latest amendment the City has 20 officers. He
further advised that the current level of service in the County areas in
.90 per 1000, while the City is currently maintianing a level of 1.0 per
1000. He pointed out that a number of cities are backing off of public
safety due to economic constraints.
Councilwoman Cherveny questioned the cuts in other cities. Mr. Doyle
advised that he is aware of 5 officers to date. Councilwoman Cherveny
inquired when the City's two new officers could be expected. Mr. Doyle
explained the recruitment process and training. City Treasurer Pape asked
if this time could be reduced by taking officers from other cities'
cutbacks. Chief Doyle explained that this could potentially help, but he
explained other factors of timing for this type of transfer. City Manager
Molendyk emphasized that the Council would like these officers as soon as
possible. Chief Doyle advised that he would expedite these positions as
much as he could. Mayor Washburn requested as much advance notice as
possible so the Council can announce the increased level of service. City
Manager Molendyk reminded the Council that the timing for new officers is
much quicker through the Sheriff's Department than it would be with an
independant department recruiting on an as needed basis.
Councilman Alongi questioned the impact of the new officers and what
additional visibility could be provided by these positions. He also
questioned the ability to provide more visibility in problem areas.
Councilamn Winkler suggested that Council look at planning ahead at least
months to allow time for obtaining new officers. Chief Doyle clarified
that he needs the letter of intent bef6re he can proceed with recruitment.
Captain Daniel provided statistics on response time with the average for
all called for services being 6.3 minutes. with average investigation time
running about 34 minutes.
Mayor Washburn inquired if the number of officers are increased, what would
be recommended to create more visibility. Captain Daniel suggested bicycle
patrol, etc.
Councilman Alongi questioned the arrangement of beats and whether the
coverage areas are adjacent. He also questioned ways to increase patrol
time.
City Manager Molendyk commented on the abiltiy of Council to provide input
to the Sheriff's Department on use of the target team. He also commented
that it may be necessary to exclude certain types of enforcement. Chief
Doyle clarified the processing and prioritizing of calls. He also
confirmed that based on specific information, the target team can be
utilized in problem areas.
Mayor Pro Tem Dominguez commented on the conference he attended in San Jose
and information presented regarding the use of reserve officers. Chief
Doyle advised that the County now has over 2,000 reserve officers which are
utilized as much as possible; the City currently has approximately 12-14
reserves. Chief Doyle also explained the training levels of reserve
officers.
Mayor Washburn commented on the new 800 mhz system. Chief Doyle offered a
demonstration of this system to the Council. '
Mayo~^ Pro Tem Dominguez further addressed reserve officers and suggested
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that possibility of paying the officers. Captain Daniels advised 'hat this
is already being done in some other areas. Councilwoman Cherveny
questioned recruitment of reserve officers. Captain Daniels advis~d that
there is really an ongoing recruitment.
Councilman Alongi commented on neighborhoods experiencing substantial
increases in crime and questioned options to address this type of
situation.
Councilman Dominguez commented that he would like solution for this as
well, particularly in the downtown area.
2. Downtown Enforcement
Captain Daniel advised that the Downtown area is a Primary beat in which
the officer only leaves if necessary to cover a secondary beat. He
detailed the statistics being noted in this area, and commented that a
decline in drug related problems is being seen.
City Manager Molendyk commented that particular concerns have been noted
with burglaries downtown over other areas. He further commented that an
interest has been expressed in supplemental enforcement through reserves or
private security.
Councilman Dominguez advised that he now believes reserve officers would be
the most appropriate use for the downtown area. Mayor Washburn inquired
what the feasibility of this would be. Captain Daniels advised that last
year approximately 1,450 hours of reserve time were utilized in the City.
City Manager Molendyk inquired if these officers would be appropriate for
working a beat downtown, Captain Daniel advised that level l officers
would be appropriate. Further discussion ensued regarding use of reserves
and the limitations. Councilman Dominguez requested a report on the
possibility of a bicycle program.
3. Truck Routes
City Manager Molendyk addressed specific concerns in the downtown area with
large trucks making deliveries, as well as trucks in residential areas. He
suggested that it might be most appropriate to address this on a City-wide
basis rather than case by case.
Mayor Pro Tem Dominguez stressed that the downtown was intended to be a
primarily pedestrian area; with the alley to be used for deliveries. Mayor
Washburn commented that the call-to-call situation does not allow time for
enforcement of truck routes and related issues. Chief Doyle commented that
parking restrictions need to be used in addition to truck route
designations. He further commented that this some times means amendment of
existing sign codes. Captain Daniel commented that the intent had been for
loading and unloading on side streets or in alleys; however the State Code
allows for loading and unloading.
City Manager Molendyk commented that the biggest pro6lem with trucks on
Main Street is the turning radius. Captain Daniels suggested that
contacting the business owners to have suppliers delivery diffently might
be the best solution. Chief Doyle suggested the possibility of a letter on
Sheriff's Department letterhead on behalf of the City to the business
owners.
Public Services Director Tecca indicated that it is possible to limit the
hours for loading and unloading and suggested that maybe the loading and
unloading could be prohibited completely.
Councilman Alongi questioned the ability to deliver from alleys, as some
stores do not have alley access. Mayor Pro Tem Dominguez stated that
access is available. Mayor Washburn questioned the impact on the
merchants. Chief Doyle advised that the Sheriff's Department would be
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willing to review the situation. Councilman Dominguez expressed concern
that the truck route signs were being ignored.
MAYOR WASHBURN CALLED A RECESS AT 4:40 P.M.
MAYOR WASHBURN CALLED TNE MEETING BACK INTO SESSION AT 4:47 P.M.
City Manager Molendyk stressed the need for an overall master plan. He also
suggested that the street sweeping program be reviewed to determined that
the signs are correct, but reaffirmed that tickets are valid during the
posted hours.
Captain Daniels suggested other parking restrictions which might be helpful
such as height restrictions where visibility is an issue, parking of
trailers, parking of big trucks on private property, permit fees, etc.
City Manager Molendyk added that some cities have no parking between 2 a.m.
and 6 a.m.
Councilman Alongi inquired with regard to street sweeping tickets, whether
code enforcement officers check the signs posted in the area before issuing
a ticket. He particularly addressed Pottery Street. Captain Daniels
commented that some areas may be missing signs, but generally they are
strategically placed in each tract.
4.
Councilman Alongi stressed the need to get the Community to work with the
Sheriff. He commented that he doesn't feel the patrol car should follow
the street sweeper, instead it should proceed it so the street gets clean.
He stressed that it is important to identify areas where signs are missing
and replace them and if necessary increase the number of signs posted.
Public Services Director Tecca advised that the signage had been reviewed
in depth approximately one year ago and adequate signs were in place,
however, it might be good policy to increase the number of signs for
visibility. Councilman Alongi again stressed the need to increase the
number of signs. Captain Daniels added that the every other week sweeping
needs to be clarified. Public Services Director Tecca advised that the
program is currently being revamped and the signs will.be updated soon.
Other
Mayor Washburn commented on planning underway for the new Police Facility
and suggested that the City might need its own 911 system. He inquired if
filing through the Sheriff's Department to f.C.C. would be necessary.
Chief Doyle advised that he would investigate this process. Mayor Washburn
requested an update on the Police Facility. City Manager Molendyk advised
that the architect is working on it and he will need to check on it.
Curfew
City Manager Molendyk questioned the effectiveness of a curfew to curtail
and resolve gang related problems. Chief Doyle advised that curfew is a
difficult issue due to changes in the law in 1989 or 1990. He explained
that they are prohibited from detaining juveniles for certain codes
including curfew. He further commented that actions are also limited in
dealing with runaways.
Councilwoman Cherveny requested clarification as to whether curfew even
exists any more. Chief Doyle clarified that technically it does not exist.
Discussion ensued with regard to the ability to fine for violations and the
ability to collect those fines.
Councilman Alongi questioned the number of juveniles out after curfew.
City Manager Molendyk explained that there are specific problem areas such
as Machado Park, Joy Street, etc. Councilman Alongi questioned the ability
to adopt an ordinance targeting specific areas: City Manager Molendyk
furt~er explained that in the parks and beach areas they are signed for
limi ed hours. Councilman Alongi expressed concern with law abiding
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citizens being cited for violations such as curfew just by their presence.
Discussion followed regarding juveniles sitting in parks and aroun~ town
after 10 p.m. and the reason curfew laws were originally developed. Also
discussed was the new family situations and values. Chief Doyle stressed
the limitation on addressing specific elements of society because of civil
rights issues. He further stressed that specific crimes such as
vandalism/graffiti can be addressed to help curtail some of the problems.
Councilman Alongi questioned the ability of the City to make parents more
responsible, particularly through the use of fines.
Mayor Washburn inquired what alternatives exist for the City/Sheriff to be
more proactive and what programs the Sheriff's Department might be
considering. Chief Doyle commented on the gang identification system and
the associated officers and programs.
Councilman Alongi questioned the cost of Community Services Officers and
suggested that they be considered for an alternate form of security. He
further questioned the ability to use the C.S.O.'s as extra eyes for the
patrol officers. Chief Doyle confirmed that the C.S.O.'s are used in this
way, however he stressed the difference in training, etc. between C.S.O.'s
and Deputies. Councilman Alongi advised that he would like some options at
the next budget review. Chief Doyle commented on the possibility of
expanding the use of the target team as an alternative.
Mayor Pro Tem Dominguez commented on public telephones and the ability to
limit the calls to outgoing calls to prevent some of the drug related
activities. Captain Daniels commented that this sort of prog;nm would
need to be balanced to accommodate emergency situations. Mayor Pro Tem
Dominguez stressed the need for educating the public in regard to this type
of program.
Mayor Pro Tem Dominguez questioned the availability of officers in the
station on weekends and after hours. Captain Daniels advised that there is
no one available, however the phone recordings now provide appropriate
numbers to obtain assistance. Mayor Washburn suggested that there should
be some consideration of staffing the new facility.
City Treasurer Pape questioned jail facilities. Chief Doyle explained
briefly that the existing holding cells in Lake Elsinore are not adequate.
Councilman Winkler questioned the impact of the City's abatement program
and the results the Sheriff's Department is seeing. Captain Daniel advised
that they have noted a positive impact.
City Manager Molendyk stressed that the ability to prioritize the
enforcement is dependent upon money available.
Councilwoman Cherveny questioned the possibility of using reserve officers
to man the telephones.
Mayor Washburn questioned other potential increases the Council could
consider. Chief Doyle advised that they will provide whatever level of
service the City Council wants.
Councilwoman Cherveny questioned the flexibility of reporting within the
new reporting districts and whether there would be summaries available by
district. Captain Daniels advised that they could provide summaries of all
called for services by month. Mayor Washburn suggested the future
potential of tieing in to the City's GIS System to highlight the crime
patterns and direct the target team. Discussion ensued with regard to
particular information which would be helpful. Captain Daniels advised
that he will have a weekly report.
Mayor Washburn commented that in cases of apartment complexes with repeated
problems he would like to see a system for billing the land owner and
encouraging better property management.
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City Manager Molendyk presented information requested by Council on the
background for the new City of Murrieta Police Department. Chief Doyle
commented briefly on the new Murrieta Department and stressed that a
primary concern of any City should be the liability involved in law
enforcement. He further stressed that there are trade-offs for any
situation.
It was the consensus of Council that Captain Daniel prepare recommendations
on the items discussed including associated dollar amounts.
Councilwoman Cherveny requested information that could be considered at
mid-year budget discussions to place an early order for next year.
Councilman Winkler commented that he has received good feedback on Deputy
Rubio. Brief discussion on Neighborhood Watch programs followed.
THE
STUDY SESSION WAS ADJOURNED AT 5~ 9 P.M.
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GARY WASHBURN, MAYOR
CIT F LAKE ELSINORE
CLERK
CITY Of LAKE ~LSINORE
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