HomeMy WebLinkAbout11-23-1993 City Council MinutesMINOTEB
REGIILAR CITY COIINCIL MEETING
CITY OF LARE ELSINORE
31315 CHANEY BTREET
LARE ELSINORE~ CALIFORNIA
TIIESDAY~ NOVEMBER 23~ 1993
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CALL TO ORDER
The Regular City Council Meeting was called to order by Mayor
Washburn at 7:02 p.m.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Mayor Washburn.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: ALONGI, CHERVENY, DOMINGUEZ, WINKLER,
WASHBURN
ABSENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: NONE
Also present were: City Manager Molendyk, Assistant City Manager
Rogers, City Attorney Harper, Administrative Services Director
Boone, Community Development Manager Shear, City Planner Leslie,
Community Services Manager Best, Public Services Director Tecca,
Manager of Special Projects Watenpaugh, City Treasurer Pape and
City Clerk Kasad.
PRESENTATIONS/CEREMONIALS
ae Ubdate on Baseball Club. (F:134.10)
Kevin Haughian, General Manager, Lake Elsinore Baseball Club,
announced that to date 1,326 season tickets and all of the
luxury suites have been sold. He noted that the club's
initial goal was for 1,000 season tickets, but based on
xesponse this has been revised to 2,000. He also noted that
of those tickets sold, nearly 1,000 were purchased by Lake
El~inore residents. He presented the proposed "home" and
"away" team jerseys, and noted that the game hat is being
reworked.
b. Undate on Outflow Channel Proiect. (F:92.2)
James Lowe, 3 B's Construction, detailed the progress to date
on this project. He noted that 75,000 cubic yards of dirt
will be trucked to the stadium site for that project. He
detailed the upcoming road closures and alternate solutions,
should the rains or flooding become a problem. He also noted
that all is progressing well and they are currently awaiting
approval from Caltrans for the bridge on Highway 74. He
reminded the community that the project administrator for this
job is the Riverside County Flood Control District. He
further noted value engineering efforts to find ways to reduce
the cost of this project.
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c. Winterfest, 1993. (F:64.2)
Mayor Washburn announced that Winterfest will run from 4 p.m.
to 9 p.m. with the Christmas Tree Lighting at 5:00 p.m. and
Santa's arrival at 5:30 p.m. He detailed the proposed
activities for this evento
PUBLIC COMMENTS - RGENDIZED ITEMS
Requests were received to address the following items and deferred
to those discussionss
Item Nos. 32 and 34.
The following items were pulled from the Consent Calendar for
further discussion and considerationo
Ytem Nos. 3, 4, 6, 10, 11, 13, 14 and 15.
MOVED BY ALONGI, SECONDED BY CHERVENY AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE
TO APPROVE THE BALANCE OF THE CONSENT CALENDAR AS PRESENTED.
1. The following Minutes were approved:
a. City Council Study Session - October 21, 1993. (F:44.4)
b. Regular City Council Meeting - November 9, 1993.
The following Minutes were received and ordered filed:
ce Planning Commission Meeting - October 21, 1993. (F:60.3)
d. Planning Commission Meeting - November 3, 1993.
2. Received and ordered filed the Investment Report for October,
1993. (F:12.5)
5. Approve Agreement for Administration of the General
Maintenance for the Library Facili~y. (F:68.1)
7. Approved Change order No. 3- Country Club Heights Trunk Sewer
By-Pass Phase II Sewer Improvements in Community Facilities
District No. 88-3 for Riverside Pipeline Ync. for a reduction
of $36~239.43. (F:22.3)
8. Adopted Resolution of Intention to Change the Street Name of
Sylvester Street to Ydalaga Road - Resolution No. 93-69e
(F:158.1)
RESOLUTION NO. 93-69
A RESOLUTION OF INTENTION OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE,
CALIFORNIA, CHANGING THE NAME OF SYLVESTER STREET.
9. Adopted Resolution No. 93-70 Establishing Additional Parking
Citation Enforcement Penalties, (F;112.1)
RESOLUTION NO. 93-70
A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE,
CALIFORNIA, AMENDING THE ESTABLISHED PARKING ENFORCEMENT
SCEiEDULES AND PENALTIESe
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12. Accepted Grant Deeds for the Purpose of Easement
Dedications for Various City Projects at ~he following
locations:
(F:132.1)
Lot 125, Unit B of Country Club Heights for a 10' Slope
Easement.
Lots 95 & 97 in Book 16, Pages 59 to 61 for a 10' Slope
Easement.
Zot 20 in Block 2 of Elsinore Heights Unit #1 for a 7.5'
Right-of-Way.
Lot 17 in Block 2 of Elsinore Heights Unit #1 for a.5'
Right-of-Way.
outlet Center Phase II for a Drainage Easement.
ITEMS PIILLED FROM CONSENT CALENDAR
3. j+Tarrant List - November 15. 1993. (F:12.3)
Councilman Alongi requested that items on the Warrant List
such as weed abatement rebates be designated as such. He
suggested that the entry for Rasmussen's should be noted as an
expense for Halloween. He noted that the check for the Great
Main Street Antique Store was for a chair for Santa at the
Winterfest; he questioned why the equipment for Santa r,~as not
requested from the Downtown Business Associatzon.
MOVED BY ALONGI, SECONDED BY CHERVENY AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE
TO RATIFY THE WARRANT LIST AS PRESENTEDe
4.
. (F:52.2
City Manager Molendyk requested deferral of the claim from BSY
Consultants and recommended that the Claim of Steven Dobihal
be rejected and referred to claims administrator for handling.
MOVED BY ALONG2, SECONDED BY CHERVENY AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE
TO DEFER THE CLAIM SUBMITTED BY BSI CONSULTANTS AND TO REJECT AND
REFER TO CLAIMS ADMINISTRATOR THE CLAIM SUBMITTED BY STE~IEN
DOBIHAL.
6.
. (F:144.3)
Councilman Alongi inquired what work will be done as part of
this project. He indicated that he did not believe it would
include the horseshoe pits and questioned why they were not
being done at this time. Community Services Manager Best
advised that the horseshoe pit is include as are all other
alternatives. Councilman Alongi expressed concern that there
is no mention of the horseshoe pits, only gradinq and
retaining walls. Ms. Best indicated that the bids received
did include the horseshoe pits and detailed the specifics
included in this bid package. Councilman Alongi indicated
that he still did not see that mentioned in the staff report
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and inquired whether it would be one contract or two. Ms.
Best indicated it would be only one contract. She further
e~cplained that the low bid was rejected because of non-
complianceo
MOVED BY ALONGI, SECONDED BY CHERVENY TO POSTPONE THIS ITEM UNTIL
ALL INFORMATION IS RECEIVED.
Councilwoman Cherveny requested clarification of a"non-
responsive" bid. Community Services Manager Best deferred to
the City Attorney for this clarification. She noted that
Kevin Palmer of the Community Development Agency concurred
with the reasons for rejecting the low bidder, in compliance
with the C.D.B.G. regulations, as well as approving the
contractor proposed as eligible for C.D.B.G. funds.
Mayor Washburn indicated that he would not be against this
award of contract because he has adequate information.
THE FOREGOING MOTION FAILED TO CARRY BY A VOTE OF 2 TO 3 WITH
DOMINGUEZ, WASHBURN AND WINKLER CASTING THE DISSENTING VOTES.
MOVED BY WASHBURN, SECONDED BY DOMINGUEZ TO AWARD THIS CONTRACT TO
MODCRAFT, INC. IN THE AMOUNT OF $89,386.OOo
Mayor Washburn announced that the Senior Center has developed
a cookbook for sale at a cost of $8 for the first copy and $5
for each additional copy. He commended staff for this effort
and a nice finished product,
THE FOREGOING MOTION CARRIED BY A VOTE OF 4 TO 1 WITH ALONGY
CASTING THE DISSENTING VOTEo
10. Authorization for CR & R to place Trash Receotacles for the
Lake Edae Clean up on December 11, 1993. (F:163.1)
Councilman Alongi indicated that he would like to see this
date moved later in the month ~o allow for holiday trash and
Christmas tree disposal.
Mayor Washburn indicated that while he understood the request,
he would question it because CR & R picks up trees anyway. Iie
explained that it is felt that a stancl alone event would be
more successful.
Mayor Pro Tem Dominguez indicated that several days had been
considered.
NIOVED BY WASHBURN, SECONDED BY DOMYNGUEZ TO AUTHORIZE CR & 12 TO
PLACE TRASH RECEPTACLES FOR THE LAKE EDGE CLEAN UP ON DECEMBER 11,
i993.
Councilwoman Cherveny inquired whether this would include the
County side of the Lake. City Manager Molendyk indicated that
they would only be placed in the City, but anyone could
utilize the bins. He explained ~hat ~he City can only
authorize use within the City limi~s pursuant to f.he contract.
Councilwoman Cherveny further questioned the access for County
residents. Mayor Washburn indicated that with legitimate lake
clean up items there would probably be no probleme City
Attorney Harper furtrier clarified that the City can only
address City uses under the contract.
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THE FOREGOING MOTION CARRYED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE.
11.
. (F:132.1
Councilman Alongi stated his ongoing opposition to this type
of action.
MOVED BY WASABURN, SECONDED BY CHERVENY AND CARRIED BY A VOTE OF 4
TO 1 WITH ALONGI CASTING THE DISSENTING VOTE TO ACCEPT THE QUIT
CLAIM DEEDS FOR WATER RIGHTS FOR VARIOUS CITY PROJECTS AT THE
FOLLOWING LOCATIONS:
Southwest one-half of lots 95 & 97 , Unit A of Country
Club Heights.
Lot 20 in Block 2 of Elsinore Heights Unit ~1.
Lot 34 in Block 12 of Elsinore Heights Tract Unit #2.
Lot 17 in Block 2 of Elsinore Heights Tract Unit #1.
13. Demolition of 103 North Scrivener Street. (F:32.4j
Councilman Alongi reiterated his previous concerns with this
expenditure of funds without any time element for repayment.
He stressed that he has no problem with tearing the buildings
down, but he does have a problem with the unlimited period for
reimbursement. He further addressed this site with regard to
a trash bin on site for over a year, without being addressed
by Code Enforcement.
MOVED BY DOMINGUEZ, SECONDED BY ALONGI TO APPROVE THIS DEMOLITION
AND THAT IN ITEM ~14 WITH REPAYMENT TO OCCUR WITHIN 24 MONTHS.
City Attorney Harper noted that if the property changes hands
in the meantime, repayment would occur at that time.
Councilman Winkler noted that it might not be beneficial to
sue for the money at 23 months, and suggested that this
evaluation be left up to the City Attorney. Mayor Washburn
indicated that it was possible to approve the demolitions and
condition them to meet the cost recovery policy in place at
that time. City Attorney Harper indicated that this could be
reviewed and he would not interpret this motion as direction
to foreclose.
THE FOREGOING MOTION CARRIED BY UNP,iJIMOUS VOTE.
14. Demolition of 207 East Potterv Street. (F:32.4)
MOVED BY DOMINGUEZ~ SECONDED BY ALONGI AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS
VOTE TO APPROVE THIS DEMOLITION WITH REPAYMENT TO OCCUR WITHIN 24
MONTHS.
15e Phase II Clean Lakes 314 Granto (F:83.1)
Councilwoman Cherveny noted comments in the report that the
there is no notable change in the water quality since the
aqua-treat program. She suggested that this program should be
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halted to allow LEMA to do their part and if possible find a
solution. She expressed concern with the money spent to date
on treatment.
MOVED BY CHERVENY, SECONDED BY ALONGI AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE
TO ENDORSE THE PHASE II PROJECT AND DESIGNATE $25,000 IN THE CITY'S
1994-95 FISCAL YEAR BUDGET FOR THE PROPOSED PHASE II CLEAN LAKES
314 PROGRAM.
BIISINESS ETEMS
Councilman Winkler requested that item ~37 be considered at this
time. Mayor Washburn indicated that with unanimous consent it
would be moved. Councilman Alonqi questioned this action.
Councilman Winkler explained that he would request that this item
be heard next following a quick closed session regarding
acquisition of property.
THE CITY COUNCIL MEETYNG WAS ADJOURNED TO CLOSED SESSION AT 7:40
P.M.
THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING WAS RECONVENED AT 7:50 P.M.
37.
(F:134.10
- varnai Kannrr -
MOVED BY WINKLER, SECONDED BY WASHBURN TO ACQUIRE THE BUILDYNGS
BEHIND THE METHODIST CHURCH AT 110, 118 AND 126 W. HEALDp FIRST
THROUGH A GOOD FAITH EFFORT TO PURCHASE THEM OR SUBSEQUENTLY
EMINENT DOMAINo
Councilwoman Cherveny clarified that this money would be from
the General Fund Reservese
Councilman Winkler indicated that he would next pursue action
on the next RDA agenda to authorize the purchase of this
property from the City, because the Redevelopment Agency
cannot use eminent domain. Ae noted that in the long term the
reserves would be maintained.
THE FOREGOING MOTION CARRIED BY A VOTE OF 3 TO 2 WITH ALONGI AND
CHERVENY CASTING THE DISSENTING VOTES.
31. Second Readina - Ordinance No 967 - Zone Change 93-4 -
Western Companv/Laguna Heights. (F:150.2)
MOVED BY WASHBURN, SECONDED BY AY,ONGI TO ADOPT ORDINANCE NO.
967:
NO. 967
AN ORDINANCE OF THE CYTY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE,
CALIFORNIA, PREZONING 199 ACRES TO RURAL RESIDENTIAL AND OPEN
SPACE (ZONE CHANGE 93-4), LOCATED ROUGHLY SOUTHWEST OF THE
YNTERSECTION OF TOFT DRIVE AND GRAND AVENUE: THE WESTERI~P
COMPANY/LAGUNA HEIGHTS.
UPON TIiE FOLLOWING ROLL CALL VOTE:
AYES: COUNCYLMEMBERS: ALONGY, CHERVENY, DOMINGUEZ, WASHBURN
NOESe COUNCILMEMBERS: NONE
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ABSENT:
ABSTAIN:
NONE
WINKLER
32. Proposition 172 - Public Safety - Reauested by Councilwoman
Chervenv. (F:126.1)
City Manager Molendyk explained that on August 24, 1993, the
Council considered the use of private security to supplement
the services of the Sheriff's Department. Councilwoman
Cherveny has requested reconsideration of this matter.
Councilwoman Cherveny stated that Proposition 172 was approved
by the voters on the November ballot and there is
approximately $108,000 for public services.
MOVED BY CHERVENY, SECONDED BY ALONGI TO APPROVE THE ALLOCATION OF
THE APPROXIMATELY $108,000 FOR SECURITY OFFICERS TO SUPPLEMENT THE
SHERIFF~S SERVICES.
Mayor Washburn then called upon the persons who requested to
speak on this item:
Leon Strigotte, 216 Chaney Street, stated that the voters
passed Proposition 172 specifically for Law Enforcement and
Public Safety Officers as defined under Penal Code 830 and
Private Security does not qualify. He explained that
Proposition 172 not only deals with police, but also fire
services. Mr. Strigotte quoted an article from the Press
Enterprise, November 21, 1993, which is entitled "Take Back
Your Neighborhood10. He explained that solving the crime
problem is not done just by hiring more police officers, it is
the responsibility of the citizens as well. Iie further
explained that the taxpayer will not receive the same level of
service from a security officer. Mr. Strigotte stated that
he felt that the $108,000 should be spent to open up a fire
station at the wes~ end of the City, and encouraged the
Council to promote a City Reserve Force which would not cost
$108,000 and would get people out who really wan~ to make a
difference in the community. He explained that this would
have an immediate impact in the community and would aid law
enforcement in a positive way. He stated that at next year~s
budget is when the increase in law enforcement should be
considered, but not private security. He commented on the
fact that he has not seen the ~wo bicycle patrol officers
patrol more than the outlet center and there is a need for
them in other arease
Chris Hyland, 15191 Wavecrest, stated that the $108,000 needs
to be used to put more law enforcement on the streets. She
commented on a recent incident which occurred in her
neighborhood and stated that she welcomes more law
enforcement.
Councilman Dominguez indicated that he feels that the Council
needs the recommendation of professional staff to allow
Council to ma]ce an informed decision.
Councilman Winkler commented on article in the Press
Enterprise in regard to "How To Take Back Your Neighborhood"
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and he explained that it was through Neighborhood Watch, Crime
Watch and caring citizens that this effort succeecled. He
indicated that it must be approached neighborhood by
neighborhood, block by block and child by child. He stated
that with dwindling resources it is necessary for the citizens
to take control. He explained the problems within the
judicial system and suggested that there should be a City
staff position, such as a liaison to work in the judicial
system and follow up on all arrests and repeat offenders. He
further suggested the same position could be present at the
arraignment level to confirm the City's position and follow-up
on the trials. He stated that a list of all arrests, criminal
convictions and housing evictions should be available to ~he
Council, Crime Watch Committee, Apartment Owners and Managers
to aid in their effectiveness to keep out the criminal element
and prevent problems before they begin. He also indicated
that the local cable channel can be used to aid in the control
of crime and he suggested that the City continue to pursue
drug abatement litigatione
MOVED BY WINKLER, SECONDED BY WASHBURN A SUBSIDIARY MOTYON TO
DIRECT STAFF TO REORGANIZE AND CONSIDER ALTERNATIVES SUCH OVERTIME
FOR SWORN OFFICERS, MORE AID TO PATROL, A LIAISON OFFICER FOR CRIME
PREVENTION AND COORDINATION WITH THE JUDYCIAL SYSTEM~ AND REQUESTED
THAT THIS ITEM RETURN TO COUNCIL IN TWO WEEKS.
Mayor Washburn stated ~ha~ to address crime there is a need
for manpower and to have manpower there is a need for money.
He explained that there is an Anti-Crime Bill which is in
progress and he has been in contact with Congressman Calvert
~o raork on ~his issue to support more funds for the City's
needs. He commented that it doesn't matter who you are in the
community. Hispanic or other, crime is crime and no one in
any walk of life wants crime in their neighborhood. Mayor
Washburn explained that every year the Council has increased
the law enforcemen~ manpower and will continue to do so. He
coaamented that the FBI Crime Report is incorrect and it is not
151 crimes per thousand, but rather 93 crimes per 1000. He
stated that there is still a crime problem and it must be
acldressed, but it is not as bad as what the report statedo
Councilman Winkler explained that there are high crime areas
in the City and one of them is behind the Methodist Church in
the downtown area. He stated that abatement is one way to
address this and aggressive action in following up on
incidents.
Councilman Alongi commented that crime is crime and in the
City of Lake Elsinore crime is increasinq. He stated in the
State Constitution, Amendment No. 1, Chapter No. 41, does not
indicate that armed and sworn officers are required; it states
that the protection of Public Safety is the first
responsibility of the local government or local officials and
they have an obligation to give priority to the provisions of
adequate public safety service. He explained ~ha~ this
affects all areas of public safety. I~Ie stated that he agreed
with Councilman Winkler, but that he is addressing crimes
already committed and he would like to see crime prevented.
Councilman Alongi asked Captain Daniel if the officers did not
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have to write reports on the recent 52 cars that were stolen,
how much sworn officer time would be saved. He stated that he
is not opposed to Mr. Winkler's ideas, but he feels that the
needs of the community are more immediate. He emphasized
crime is crime and defined that responsibilities of the
homeowner, in regard to who rents and lives in their homes.
He further explained that it does not matter where the City is
on the list of crime, it is just not acceptable. Councilman
Alonqi stated that he wants to see the crime ratio back to
what it was in 1968 and 1969. There were no drive-by
shootings or violent crimes like there are today and the City
was safe then. He stated that 93 crimes per 1000 is still too
much and he wants to see it reduced.
Councilwoman Cherveny questioned the program that Councilman
Winkler is proposing, and asked if it was meant to be done
instead of adding officers. She explained that crime-watch is
necessary but the City needs more sworn officers. She pointed
out that when security officers were used in the downtown
area, and there was a major decline in crime. She concurred
that the Crime-watch is an aid to the community, but that
security officers would offer a deterrent to crime. She
explained that the sworn officers are going call to call and
do not have the time to patrol. She stated it would be pro-
active and not reactive. Councilwoman Cherveny explained that
the security officers can be placed in neighborhoods and in
high crime areas to help to prevent crime.
City Manager Molendyk explained that he has heard several
different ways to address the crime in the community, and he
had just received a memo from Captain Daniel of a fax from the
Department of Justice; that President Clinton has just
announced that $150 Billion Dollars be available for
assistance to law enforcement agencies. He explained that it
is broken down into increments and would supplement up to 75~
for salary and benefits for each police officer. These
figures can be utilized by staff for further suggestions to
the Council by the next meeting. He will distribute this to
Council.
Councilman Alongi asked that staff consider security quards in
their evaluation and suggestions.
Mr. Strigotte explained that Riverside Police Department has
a full time grant writer and stated that this would expand the
ability to acquire more funds and equipment. It is their job
to research and apply for monies available for more and better
programs and would benefit the program.
THE FOREGOING SUBSIDIARY MOTION WAS APPROVED BY A 3-2 VOTE WITH
ALONGI AND CHERVENY CASTING THE DISSENTING VOTES.
Councilwoman Cherveny called for a vote on the first motion.
Mayor Washburn explained that a vote on the first motion was
a moot point since the subsidiary motion took precedence.
33. Use of Communitv Center - Non-Profit Organizations -
by Councilman Alongi. (F:64.4)
Councilman Alongi indicated that he would like this to address
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organizations which beneEit the total community and would like
to use the Community Center, but find it cost prohibitive.
MOVED BY ALONGI TO OFFER THE COMMUNITY CENTER ONE TIME PER YEAR FOR
NON-PROFIT GROUPS LOCATED IN THE CITY LYMITS, WITH THE CITY MANAGER
AUTHORIZED TO DETERMINE WHICH GROUPS ARE QUALIFIED. MOTION DIED
FOR LACK OF A SECOND.
Mayor Washburn noted that a cooperative program is already in
existence.
MOVED BY WASHBURN, SECONDED BY WINKLER TO TABLE THIS ITEM
INDEFINITELY.
Councilman Alongi noted that groups are still asked to pay a
deposit, and indicated that this is not uniforntly carried out.
MOVED BY CHERVENY, SECONDED BY ALONGI AND FAILED TO CARRY BY A VOTE
OF 2 TO 3 WITH DOMINGUEZ, WASHBURN AND WINKLER CASTING THE
DISSENTING VOTES FOR A SUBSIDIARY MOTION TO OFFER THE NON-PROFIT
GROUPS THE OPPORTUNITY TO USE THE COMMUNITY CENTER ONE TIME PER
YEAR.
THE FOREGOING MAIN MOTION TO TABLE THIS ITEM CARRIED BY A VOTE OF
3 TO 2 WITH ALONGI AND CHERVENY CASTING THE DISSENTING VOTES.
34. Proposed Cardroom Ordinance No. 969. (F:34.1)
Mayor Washburn commented on the fact that he had received
several phone calls and letters regarding this ordinance.
MOVED BY WASHBURN, SECONDED BY WINKLER TO RETAIN THE EXISTING
ORDINANCE AND APPROVE ONLY THE FEE SECTION OF ORDINANCE NO. 969.
MOVED BY CHERVENY A SUBSIDIARY MOTION TO SEPARATE THE ORDINANCE AND
CREATE TWO ORDINANCES TO ADDRESS THE FEE STRUCTURE AS A SEPARATE
YSSUE. MOTION DIED FOR LACK OF A SECOND.
Mayor Washburn explained that his motion is doing what
Councilwoman Cherveny is suggesting.
City Attorney Harper clarigied the motion and stated that the
Original Cardroom Ordinance would remain in effect and the new
ordinance would amend fees only. I+Iayor Washburn concurred.
Councilman Alongi asked i£ this would increase the fees.
Mayor Washburn stated that i~ would.
Mayor Washburn called on those persons who had submitted a
request to speak as follows:
Jack McColley, 29072 Palm View, stated his opposition to more
card rooms in the City. He explained that he felt that it
would place a strain on public services and that he is not
opposed to gambling, but he is opposed to what more card rooms
can crea+ce.
Chris McColley, 29072 Palm View, stated her opposition to an
increase in gambling facilities. She stated tha~ it woulcl
create problems for public safety and she felt that the monies
made in revenue would have to pay for the increase in law
enforcement for the casino's and would not truly benefit the
public.
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Jeannine Martineau, 29042 Mango Court, stated her opposition
to more cardrooms in the City and explained that she felt that
it would be a bad image for the community as well as create
stress on Public Safetye
Jeanie Corral, 16410 W. Lakeshore Dr., stated her opposition
to an increase in cardrooms and stated that a potential of
more problems in the community were not needed. She stated
that the current casino is an eyesore.
Raymond Corral, 16410 W. Lakeshore Dr., submitted a letter of
opposition in regard to the cardroom.
Sue Bowen, 167 N. Torn Ranch Road, stated her opposition to
more cardrooms.
Denise Tompkins, 218 Chaney Street, thanked Council for their
efforts in the community and stated opposition to the proposed
increase in cardrooms. She thanked Council for their
cooperation and the improvements on Chaney Street.
Leon Strigotte, 216 Chaney Street, spoke in opposition to
cardrooms and stated that he felt that the newspapers did not
do a good job of reporting the past history of the casino and
the problems they have had. He stated that he felt that
gambling casino's affect the quality of life in the community
and that the public should vote in a public election to decide
if they wish to have gambling in Lake Elsinore. He called for
proper policing on the existing casino.
Charles Cook, 16282 Grand Avenue, spoke in opposition to an
increase in cardrooms and stated that he felt that it would
create an undesirable environment. He commented that the City
should encourage developers to do more things for the kids as
they should be the City's primary priority.
Will Buck, 29610 Hague, spoke in favor of more cardrooms in
the City and qave a brief history of the existing cardroom and
the increase in fees. He explained the reasons why it would
profit the City and stated that the City of Bell Gardens has
its entire budget for police and public works supported by the
cardrooms. He asked that Council consider passage of the
existing Ordinance No. 969.
Larry Regis, 20930 Malaga Road, explained that the casino is
not owned by professional casino owners, and that the new
owners are in the process of improving the existing cardroom,
hotel, restaurant and party center, but it will take time. He
explained that they are not trying to avoid paying their fair
share but the new fees would stress the owners and he asked
that Council consider qraduating the fees.
Councilman Alongi stated that he felt that the card room is a
quality facility and that the new owner and management is
improving the existing facility to the highest quality and he
stated that Council might want to contact Captain Daniel and
check to see how many call's the Sheriff's Department receives
from the casino. Mr. Alongi commented that he enjoys the
sport of cards and feels there is nothing wrong with it. He
e~cplained that the owners are working on the interior and will
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address improvements for the exterior next.
Councilman Dominguez stated that the casino is good recreation
and there have been very few problems. He commented that when
he moved to Lake Elsinore there were three cardrooms and that
it was his choice to live here. He felt that it was the same
for anyone else, they had the right to move here or not, since
there was a cardroom in existence when they bought. He stated
that in 1960 the issue was taken to the voters and they choose
to keep the cardrooms.
Councilwoman Cherveny stated her concern in regard to ~he fees
and explained that the owners of the casino are investing a
lot of money to make improvements and have a quality business
in the City and she would like ~o see Council graduate the
fees and not create a burden on ~he owner.
Councilman winkler pointed aut that Council has set2046Xhigh
standrds on any business who builds in the City and he felt
that it was only fair that this apply to all businesses. Yf
the Council made an exception for one, then the other
businesses would have the right to expect the same.
City Attorney Harper explained that the motion was to exclude
everything but the fee structurea
THE FOREGOING MOTION WAS APPROVED BY TAE FOLLOWING ROLL CALL VOTE
ORDINANCE NO. 969
AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE,
CALIFORNIA, AMENDING CHAPTER 5.28.060 OF THE MUNICIPAL CODE
REGARDING FEES FOR CARD ROOMS.
AYES: COUNCILMII~IBERS. ALONGI, CHERVENY, DOMINGUEZ, WINKLER,
WASHBURN
NOES: COUNCILMEMBERS: NONE
ABSENTs COUNCILMEMBERSe NONE
ABSTAIN: COUNCILMEMBERS: NONE
35. Discussion of City Election Data & Ballot Measures
Reoort - Requested by Councilwoman Cherven.y. (Fe72.1
Councilwoman Cherveny commented on the prior approval to move
~he Municipal Election dates, based on the projection that it
would be a better turnout. She inquired whether the Board of
Supervisors had yet approved this change.
City Clerk Kasad reported that basecl on a conversation this
date, the matter would be going before the Board of
Supervisors in approximately two weeks. She further noted
that the consensus of April Election cities appeared to be to
accept this change.
MOVED BY CHERVENY, SECONDED BY ALONGY TO TABLE THIS ITEM FOR TWO
WEEKS.
Mayor Washburn offered the floor to City Treasurer Pape, who
initiated this change. Mr. Pape deferred to the next
discussion in fwo weeks.
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THE FOREGOING MOTION CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE.
36. Discussion of Council Comments - Verbal Report - Requested by
Councilman Alonai. (F:44.1)
Councilman Alongi expressed concern with the recent actions to
defer Council Comments until the end of the Redevelopment
Agency Meeting, denying the Council t.v. time. He indicated
that he would like to see the Council comments remain as
scheduled on the agenda so the Council can get important items
out to the viewing audience. He indicated that this shift
causes an unfair balance of Council time. He stressed that he
does not like to see Council Comments put off until after the
t.v. shuts off. He suggested that if all Councilmembers limit
their comments, they can all get their points across.
Mayor Washburn indicated that this discussion has no substance
in that it is a procedural matter detailed in Roberts Rules of
Order. He clarified that movement of items is acceptable with
no objections being stated. He noted that any Councilmember
has the ability to object such a shift. He stressed that
Roberts Rules is clear on this issue.
Councilman Alongi indicated that the Council does not follow
Roberts Rules because they are not required to. He stressed
the Council~s right to discussion.
Mayor Washburn stressed the procedure, apologized for
Councilman Alongi and declared him to be out of order.
38. Urgencv Ordinance No. 970. (F:76.2~
Mayor Washburn proposed additional of Urgency Ordinance No.
970 relating to fire clearance in spite of K-Rat habitat, be
added to this agenda.
MOVED BY DOMINGUEZ, SECONDED BY WASHBURN AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS
VOTE TO ADD THIS ITEM TO THE AGENDA.
Mayor Washburn indicated that the Riverside County Habitat
Conservation Agency had requested that this ordinance be
brought forward to all impacted agencies for approval. He
e~lained that it would allow for fire clearance arounci
structures to prevent concerns which arose during the recent
fires.
MOVED BY CHERVENY, SECONDED BY ALONGI TO ADOPT ORDINANCE NO. 970
AND DIRECT THE CITY CLERK TO TRANSMIT TO BRIAN LOEW AT THE RCHCA:
NO. 970
AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE,
CALIFORNIA, PERMITTING CLEARING OF BRUSH FOR FIRE PROTECTION
PURPOSES.
UPON THE FOLLOWING ROLL CALL VOTE:
AYES: COUNCILMEMBERS: ALONGI, CHERVENY, DOMINGUEZ, WINKLER,
WASHBURN
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NOESe COUNCILMEMBERS: NONE
ABSENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: NONE
ABSTAINs COUNCILMEMBERS: NONE
PIIBLIC COMMENTS - NON-AGENDIZED ITEMS
Catherine Creech, 29880 Hursh, commented on law enforcement and a
xecent occurrence of shots being fired at her home. She e3cpressed
concern with the response time of approximately 20 minutes, and
noted a previous occurrence for which the response time was one
hour and 40 minutes. She indicated that she was pleased with the
passage of Proposition 172 and supported its use of additional law
enforcemen~>
Ray Creech, 29880 Hursh, further commented on the inciden~t which
occurred at his home and stressed the importance of residents being
aware of and prepared for this type of incident. He stressed the
need for a few more officerso
Mayor Washburn expressed his condolences and understanding of this
situation.
Chris Hyland, 15191 Wavecrest, indicated that while she is happy
the Stadium has sold over 1,000 seats, but questioned why the City
had reserved 100 seats and other comments relating to the sale of
tickets. She indicated that based on the comments she has heard,
she would be expecting her ~wo fron~ row, ~eam side tickets for the
cost of sales tax only. She indicated that based on the responses
she has received from the Baseball Team General Manager and the
City Manager, someone is lying.
Nido Ryal, 223 Chaney Street, commented on the proposed Chaney
Street improvements. He expressed concern that they are being done
based on cost rather than safety. He further expressed concern
with the proposed removal of the guard rail adjacent to his home
anci reminded the Council of the accident that occurred there in
1989.
Itichard Bullard, representing Classic Western Productions,
commented on the recent Sierra Circuit Rodeo presented by that
organization. He thanked the City, fihe Chamber of Commerce, the
F'ire Department, the School District, the Elks and all other
volunteers for their support,of this event. He noted the increased
revenues the event drew to the community through its restaurants,
hotels and stores. Iie stressed the organizations efforts to bring
a positive name to the community and expressed concern that not
more of the community was present to suppor~ the event.
CITY MANAGER COMMENTS
City Manager Molendyk commented on pending workshop topics and
indicated that the School District would also like a joint workshop
~o look at goals and projects.
CZTY COtINCIL COMMENTS
Councilwoman Cherveny commented on the following:
1) Announced that S.S. Burger Basket would again be serving
PAGB FIFTEEN - CITY COIINCIL MINUTES - NOVEMBER 23~ 1993
Turkey Dinner for the needy on Thanksgiving Day from 11
a.m. to 4 p.m.
2) Would like more information on the Citizen's Crime Watch
Committee; is curious based on t.v. advertisement.
3) Winterfest event, children will have an opportunity to
see Santa at this event as well as at Albertsons, Stater
Bros., etc.
4) Receipt of copy of M.R.C. report on the sales tax audit;
they found $11,865 in new taxes, projected to reach
$41,250 next quarter.
5) Attendance at Senior Center Bazaar; many groups were
participating. Advised that despite a flier distributed
the Golden Spectrum organization is alive and well.
6) Noted letter from Debbie Kramer regarding Little League
boundaries. Suggested that the issue be researched to
prevent children being excluded.
7) Received a call from a gentleman furious with City Hall,
because the parents of soccer players at Terra Cotta Park
received parking tickets. Need to look at providing
adequate parking. Councilman Winkler stressed the danger
of parking on the street in this areao
8) Noted letter from Debbie Renfrow regarding cancellation
of the Christmas Parade. She indicated that she would
like to see this budgeted and scheduled again next year.
9) Announced the H.O.P.E. food and toy drive for Christmas,
as well as the Christmas party scheduled for December
17th.
10) Delinquent trash bills, expressed concern with the letter
sent out through the City. CR & R should be handling
billing. She e3cpressed concern with the City harassing
the residents for payment and indicated that CR & R
should be obligated to handle it.
11) Noted that she attended the Sierra Circuit Rodeo.
Councilman Winkler commented on the following:
1) Soccer field use and parking at Terra Cotta; noting that
there is additional adequate parking in the school
parking lot. He stressed the danger caused by limited
visibility for cars turning left on to Grand Avenue and
children in the area of the cars parked along the curb.
He requested that the City Manager contact the School
Board representatives to address this issue, noting that
informal discussions have already occurred with
Boardmembers.
2) McVicker Park, when will construction begin? City
Manager Molendyk indicated that the Council would be
receiving a memo on this item, but the project is
underway.
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3) Amber Ridge is close to seceiving sewers. Bids are out
and e~ected to be opened soon.
4) Noted that he bought season tickets for the Stadium at
full price. Questioned the comments about special deals
being given.
Councilman Alongi commen~ed on the followinge
1) Will reserve some comments for Councilman Winkler, the
Sun Tribune and the Chamber of Commerce because the
meeting is not being televised.
2) Sierra Circuit Rodeo, stressed tfie importance of non-
profit organizations working together. He stressed the
existence of Rodeo Grounds and expressed concern with the
non-cooperation of the chamber. He noted that this Rodeo
could have made a profit if the Rodeo Grounds had been
made available.
3) Mr. Creech, indicated ~hat this incident possibly could
have been prevented. He stressed the need to listen to
the experts and go forward.
Mayor Pro Tem Dominguez commented on the following:
1) Reminded the Community to participate in Winterfest.
2) Noted that he also bought season tickets.
Mayor Washburn commented on the gollowing:
1) Efforts of S.S. Burger Basket to serve Thanksgiving
Dinnere Requested recognition of them at the next
meeting.
2) Announced that Miss Lake Elsinore, Shannon Hughes was
named Princess at the Yndio Date Festival.
3) Concerns with the media. 3ndicated that he is disturbed
with Councilman Alongi's press conference. Mr, Alongi
indicated that ~his was an interview requested by the
press. Mayor Washburn expressed further concern with
the press and their comments regarding the locations
where crimes occur. He stressed that many incidents
reported in the Cfty actually occur in Sedco Hills,
Wildomar or other unincorporated areas. He expressed
concern with the impact of these items on the economics
of the community.
4) Classic Western Productions Rodeo, concurred it is an
important event to draw people to the community, but
expressed concern with the comments that it was the
Chamber's fault they lost money. He stated that Classic
Western was offered the use of the facility for $5,000.
He suggested that possibly a compromise could have been
reached.
5) Requested that the City Attorney draft a policy for
agendizing items. Yie indicated tha~ he feels a misuse is
occurring and the existing policy is not sufficient.
PAGE
CLOSED SESSION
None.
- CITY COIINCZL MZNQTES - NOVEMBER 23~ 1993
MOVED BY WASHBURN, SECONDED BY ALONGI AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE
TO ADJOURN THE REGULAR CITY COUNCII~MEETING AT 10:09 P.M.
~'J~' `~~~~-
GARY M ~'WASHBURN, MAYOR
CITY O~~/LAKE ELSINORE
CLERK
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE