HomeMy WebLinkAbout11-09-1993 City Council MinutesMINIITES
REGOLAR CITY COONCIL MEETING
CITY OF LARE ELSINORE
31315 CHANEY STREE'1°
LARE ELSINORE~ CALIFORNIA
TIIESDAYs NOVEMBER 9~ 1993
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CALL TO ORDER
The Regular City Council ~3eeti~:g v~as called to order by Mayor
Washburn at 7:06 p.m.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANC~
The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Mayor Washburn.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT;
COUNCILMEMBERS:
ALONGI, CHERVENY,
WASHBURN
ABSENTe
COUNCILMEMBERS:
WINKLER (Councilman Winkler arrived
at 7:50 p.m.)
Also present were: City Manager Molendyk, Assistant City Manager
Rogers, City Attorney Harper, Administrative Services Director
Boone, Community Development Manager Shear, City Planner Leslie,
Community Services Director Sapp, Public Services Director Tecca,
Manager of Special Projects Watenpaugh, City Treasurer Pape and
City Clerk Kasad.
PRESENTATIONS/CEREMONIALB
A. Presentation - Lake Elsinore Management AutnoriLV vlaeoLaDe.
(Fe92.3)
Mayor Washburn noted the agencies involved in L.E.M.A. and
explained the purpose of the videotape.
The videotape was shown.
Mayor Washburn advised that the video£ape will be shown a
various time in the future on King 3 and other stations.
B. Announcement - Lake Elsinore Storm. (F:134.10)
City Manager Molendyk advised that the Press Conference
originally scheduled for Wednesday, November 10th had been
rescheduled to Friday, November 12th at 1:00 p.m. He noted
that the purpose of this press conference would be to
introduce the new team logo and colors; and following the
conference, team souvenirs will go on sale.
PIIBLIC COMMENTS - AGENDIZED ITEMS
Requests were received to address item nos. 21, 22, 34 and 35 and
deferred to those discussions.
CONSENT CALENDAR
The following items were pulled from the Consent Calendar for
further discussion and consideration:
Item Nos. l.a.o i.b., 8 and 9.
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MOVED BY CHERVENY, SECONDED BY DOMINGUEZ AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS
VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO APPROVE THE BALANCE OF THE CONSENT
CALENDAR AS PRESENTED.
2. Receivecl and ordered filed the Building Activity Iteport for
October, 1993e (F:32.2)
3. Received ancl ordered filed the Code Enforcement Activity
Report for October, 1993. (F:54.iD
4a Received and ordered filed the Ynvestment Report for
September, 1993. (F:12.5)
5, Ra~ified Warrant List for November i, 1993. (F:12.3)
6. Awarded Maintenance Contract for Traffic Striping & Pavement
Marking to IPS Services in the amount of $28,095.73. (F:156.2)
7. Adopted Resolution No. 93-62, regarding Authorization to Apply
for Grant Funds from the Used Oil Recycling Fund. (F:84.1)
RESOLUTION YJO. 93-62
A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE,
CALIFORNIA~ APPROVING THE APPLICATION FOR GRANT FUNDS FROM THE
USED OIL RECYCLING FUND UNDER THE USED OIL RECYCLING
ENHANCEMENT ACT FOR TIiE WESTERN RIVERSIDE COUNCIL OF
GOVERNMENTS REGIONAL i7SED OIL COLLECTION PROGRAM.
10. Approved public hearing date of December 14, 1993, for the
following:
a. Street Name Change of d2ailroaci Canyon Road to Diamond
Drive from Y,ake Elsinore Diamond to the East City Limits.
(F:158.1)
ITEMS POLLED FROM THE CONSEN'd' CAY.ENDAI2
1. Aiinutes
a. Special City Council Meeting - October 21, 1993. (F:44.4)
b. Reqular City Council Meeting - October 26, 1993.
Councilman Alongi indicated that he would be abstaining on the
Minutes of October 21 and October 26, 1993.
MOVED BY CHERVENY, SECONDED BY DOMINGUEZ AND CARRIED BY A VOTE OF
9 TO 0 WITH WINKLER ABSENT AND ALONGY ABSTAINING TO APPROVE THE
CITY COUNCIL MINUTES AS SUBMITTED.
8. Resolution No. 93-63 - Intention for Citv initiated Zone
Chanue fZC 93-61 - Chanav Rtraot - Channu frnm u_7 t~. v_
(F:172.2)
Councilman Alongi indicated ~hat he would like to see this
ma~ter moved to a Study Session for discussion. xe noted the
annexation of this property in the 1960's with the R-2 zoning
in place. He expressed concern that property owners, other
than the existing homeowners should be compensated in some way
since they purchased the property as R-2.
Mayor Washburn clarified that this resolution was only the
first step and even with its adoption a workshop could be held
prior to further proceedings.
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MOVED BY WASHBURN, SECONDED BY ALONGI AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE
OF THOSE PRESENT TO ADOPT RESOLUTION NO. 92-63.
RESOLUTION NO. 93-63
A RESOLUTION OF INTENTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF
_ LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA~ INITIATING A CHANGE OF ZONE FOR
TERRITORY LOCATED ALONG THE WEST SIDE OF CHANEY STREET BETWEEN
HEALD AVENUE AND HILL AVENUE.
9. LEMA Dues/Budget - Contribution 1994. (F:92.3)
Councilwoman Cherveny noted that $17,500 was budgeted for dues
last year and were not needed. She suggested that the funds
be reallocated for additional paving of streets such as Kansas
Street. She further noted that there is a property owner
willing to pay for the curbs and sidewalks, and it would be
appropriate to provide the paving. She e~cpressed concern with
the upcoming rainy season and the muddy mess this street
becomes.
MOVED BY CHERVENY TO REALLOCATE THE PAST YEARS FUNDS TO PUBLIC
WORKS FOR STREET WORK. THE MOTION DIED FOR LACK OF A SECOND.
Councilman Winkler requested clarification of the $17,500 and
the ability to reallocate it.
Mayor Washburn suggested that the Administrative Services
Director be requested to research these funds and the
potential for reallocating them.
_ MOVED BY WASHBURN, SECONDED BY DOMINGUEZ AND CARRIED BY UNANIM
VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO APPROVE THE LEMA BUDGET AS SUBMITTED.
COUNCILMAN WINKLER ARRIVED AT 7:50 P.M.
POBLIC HEARING
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City Manager Molendyk detailed this request and the staff~s
recommendations.
Councilman Alongi asked that the public hearing be separated
to hear Annexation No. 62 first and then Annexation No. 68,
and vote on each one separately. Mayor Washburn explained
that it would take a motion to separate the item or when it
came to the motion the Annexations could be split.
Mayor Washburn opened the public hearing at 7:30 p.m. and
asked those persons who requested to speak to come forward as
called:
Patricia Lee Nolan, 30620 Plumas, stated her opposition to
Annexation No. 62 and Annexation No. 68. She explained that
she resents being forced to accept a situation that she finds
unacceptable and could alter her way of life.
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%,ea Itoutledge, 14505 Amorose, stated her opposition to
Annexation No. 62 and Annexation No. 68; and cited the
problems the developers are having in selling existing homes.
She further stated her opposition because of the impact on
Public Safety Services and the potential inability to provide
proper services. Mrs. Routledge stated that in an already
crowded school situation there are no provisions for more
schools provided by ~he developer. She cited two lots in Mr.
Chen's project th3t are part of the Brookstone Ranch CC & R°s
and indicated that this needs to be addressed further.
Ace Vallejos, 15231 Cobre Stree~, stated his opposition ~o the
project and explained his objections to the annexations and
developments, stating that he wants to see developments
compatible with ~he area.
Lee Bulen, 14949 Toft Street, stated his opposition to
Annexation Nos. 62 and 68 and e~lained that he feels that the
notices to the public were inadequatee He asked that it be
made part of the record that he opposes Annexation No. 68
because he feels that i~ is an a~.tempt by the City to avoid
the statutory process. Mr. Bulen stated that he feels the
City cannot provide proper fire, police or school services due
~o the increased population. die requested that Council
include Brookstone Ranch in the boundaries of Annexation No.
62, so that their residents can have a vote and voice in their
future.
A,llan Knight, 30510 Broo7cstone, stated his opposition to
Annexation Nos. 62 anci 68, and suggested that the LAFCO
requirement for a fiscal analysis had not been met by the
developer; as he felt that the developer had understated the
fiscal impacts. He noted that the City Manager, at a Study
Session in August of 1992, stated that at 1,200 units, he did
not see how the project could pay for itself. Mr. Knight
questioned, now that it is down to 900 units, how it will pay
for itself. Mr. Knight quoted Section A, paragraph 11, LAFCO
Policies and Standards; ~~Boundaries should seek to include,
rather than split existing identifiable communities,
commercial districtso or other areas having social or economic
in~egri~y1A. He stated ~hat Annexation No. 62, violates this
provision by splitting the southern portion £rom Brookstone
Ranch.
Gary Glotfelty, United States Forest Service, 1147 E. 6th
Street, Corona, stated the Forest Service's opposition to the
annexation of 168 acres of public land to the City its zoning
as open space.
COUNC%LMAAY FIINKLEI2 ANNOLJNCED A POTENTIAL CONFLICT AND REMOVED
HIMSELF FROM THE TABLE.
David Locke, 15025 Monty Court, asked who was paying the fees
for Annexation No. C:8. He stated that if Laguna Heights is
paying ifor the annexa~ion then it is in violation of ~he lawo
and if the Ci~y is paying for the annexation then it is an
expenditure of ta}tpayers dollars and should be the
sesponsibility of the cleveloper. He suggested that it might
be appxopriate to make Annexation 68 part of Annexation No, 62
and it would be the responsibility of the Laguna Heights
developers to fund.
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David Gottlieb, 3546 Carmel, Irvine, representative of the
Western Company, stated that he is appearing before the
Council to ask their approval of Annexation No. 62, the
General Plan Amendment and the Zone Change. He gave an
overview and history of the project and the current intent of
the development. He explained the annexation of 162 acres of
Forest Service land and explained that this is to be zoned
Open Space and will not change the use of the area. Mr.
Gottlieb explained the Environmental Impact Report and stated
that the development area will pay its own way for public
safety services and explained the construction of water
reservoirs on the development to provide for fire safety. He
stated that this project is a Master Planned Community and
will enhance the area. He explained that it will be taken to
a formal vote of the residents involved and they will be given
an opportunity to decide if they wish to be a part of the
City. He asked that Council approve this annexation.
Ted Kramer, 15077 Patrick Court, spoke in opposition to
Annexation Nos. 62 and 68.
Hearing no further comments Mayor Washburn closed the public
hearing at 8:01 p.m.
Councilwoman Cherveny asked why this was split into two
annexations. City Planner Leslie explained that the
applicant, Western Companies, proposed Annexation No. 62. The
City, based on understanding of LAFCO~s policies, then
proposed Annexation No. 68 in order to complete the annexation
of the area. Councilwoman Cherveny then asked why the City is
the applicant for Annexation No. 68. City Planner Leslie
explained that LAFCO does not want to create islands, and it
was staff's feeling that in order not to create an island, the
City should propose Annexation No. 68. Councilwoman Cherveny
stated that it is clear to her that the persons in Annexation
No. 68 do not want to be annexed.
City Planner Leslie explained that when an annexation goes to
LAFCO, if there is 25~ or more written opposition to the
project, then it must go to a vote and in that vote if 50~ or
more of the registered voters, vote against the annexation,
then the area will not be annexed. He noted that LAFCO could
still choose to tie the two annexations together, and then
everyone would be voting on the same annexation.
City Manager Molendyk explained that if Annexation No. 68 is
not approved, then LAFCO could include Annexation No. 68 in
Annexation No. 62, and the people would then have less voice
in the matter.
Councilman Dominguez stated that this issue is now in LAFCO's
hands, but the residents will have the opportunity to vote.
Councilman Alongi explained that he was an advocate of
splitting the annexations in order to give the people a voice
in the annexation process. He further stated that he could
not vote against this Annexation, since all the City
requirements have been met.
Mayor Washburn address the public comments regarding the
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change in lifestyle caused by the annexation and sta~ed that
~he use of horses in ~he area is not in jeopardy and that the
ability to have livestock will be maintained.' !He further
addressed the public safety issue and stated that the solution
is not just the increase in law enforcement officers, but also
the increased participation of the residents in the community.
He s~ated ~hat he fel~ ~hat ~he area seemed to be very
conscious of public safe~y and s~ated that this would assist
in better law enforcement for that area. Mayor Washburn
stated that the fear factor of the area in regard to
annexation is a concern and he stated that Annexation No. 68
does give the residents the opportunity to voteo
MOVED BY ALONGI~ SECONDED BY DOMINGUEZ AND CARRIED BY A 4-0 VOTE
WITH WINKLER ABSTAINING TO ADOPT RESOLUTION 93-64 FOR THE
COMMENCEMENT OF PROCEEDINGS TO ANNEX TO THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
ANNEXATION NO. 62~ APPROVE GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT 93-2 AND ADOPT
RESOLUTION 93-65; AND APPROVE ZONE CHANGE 93-4 AND ADOPT ORDINANCE
367, BASED ON THE FOLLOWYNG FINDYNGS:
RESOLUTION NO. 93-64
A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF LP.KE ELSINORE,
CALIFORNIA, CONSENTING TO THE COMMENCEMENT OF PROCEEDINGS TO
ANNEX 2'O THE'CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE AND CONCURRENT DETACHMENT
FROM THE ORTEGA TRAILS RECREATION AND PARK DISTRICT AND
CERTAIN UNINHABITED TERRITORY DESCRIBED HEREIN AND DESIGNATED
"ANNEXATION NO. 62 - THE WESTERN COMPANY".
RESOLUTION NO. 93-65
A RESOLUTION OF THE CYTY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE,
CALIFORNIA, MAKING AMENDMENT TO THE LAKE ELSINORE GENERAL PLAN
FOR THE THIRD CYCLE OF THE CALENDAR YEAR OF 1993.
ORDINANCE NO. 967
AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE,
CALIFORNIA, PREZONING 199 ACRES TO RURAL RESIDENTIAL AND OPEIJ
SPACE (ZONE CHANGE 93-4), LOCATED ROUGHLY SOUTHWEST OF THE
INTERSECTION OF TOFT DRIVE AND GRAND AVENUEe THE WESTERN
COMPANY/LAGUNA HEIGHTS,
APPROVED UPON FIRST READING BY THE FOLLOWING ROLL CALL VOTE:
AYES: COUNCILMEMBERS: ALONGI, CHERVENY, DOMINGUEZ,
WASHBURN
I~IOES :
e NONE
ABSENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: NONE
ABSTAIN: COUNCILMEMBERS: WINKLER
Findinas Annexation No. 62
le The proposeci annexation area is entirely within the
City~s Sphere of Influence.
2e The proposed annexation area is contiguous to the City of
Lake Elsinore.
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3. The project will not result in any significant adverse
impacts on the environment.
Findinas - General Plan Amendment 93-2
1. The approval of the requested designations permits
development to the highest and best nature within
mitigable means to insure maintenance of the general
public health safety and welfare.
2. Granting of the requested designations will permit
reasonable development of the property consistent with
its constraints and more compatible with adjacent
properties and proposed development.
3. The proposed General Plan Amendment would establish a
land use density and usage more in character with the
subject property's location, access and constraints.
4. The proposed change will not result in any significant
adverse impacts on the environment.
Findinas Zone Change 93-4
1. This project is consistent with the Goals, Policies and
Objectives of the General Plan.
2. This zone change establishes the necessary pre-zoning for
this site.
3. This request will not result in any significant adverse
impacts on the environment.
MOVED BY ALONGI~ SECONDED BY CHERVENY AND FAILED TO CARRY BY A VOTE
OF 2 TO 2 WITH DOMINGUEZ AND WASHBURN CASTING THE DISSENTING VOTES
AND WINKLER ABSTAINING TO DENY ANNEXATION NO. 68, GENERAL PLAN
AMENDMENT 93-3 AND ZONE CHANGE 93-5.
COUNCILMAN WINKLER RETURNED TO THE TABLE.
APPEAL
22.
City Manager Molendyk introduced this item and noted that a
meeting did occur on site to review the request.
Mimi Ryal, representing Lewis Homes, indicated that she
appreciated the opportunity to review the site with the
Council. She further indicated that they are willing to
provide the block walls or combination block wall/wrought iron
fences on top of the large slopes and terraces. She detailed
those locations on a map of the site. She also indicated that
they would still like to use wood fences on side and rear
property lines where they would not be visible. She commented
on the fencing adjacent to Mr. Chen's project at the toe of
the slope and requested that wood fencing also be allowed at
October 26. 1993. (F:21.1)
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this location, as there will be limited view of them and they
would be helpful to drainage,
Mayor Washburn indicated that he had visited the site with
Councilman Winkler. Iie noted that the street to Mr. Chen's
property should not necessarily be considered a major
thoroughfare.
Councilman Winkler requested clarification of fencing
treatment adjacent to the cul-de-sacs. Ms. Ryal clarified.
Councilman Winkler addressed the terraced area near
Spruce Street. Ms. Ryal indicated that property is owned
by Mr. Chen, but their intent would be block wall at the
top of those terraces. She indicated their concern is
for the f.oe of the slope.
Councilman Winkler indicated ~hat he was not sure what this
request was for. City Planner Leslie indicated that ~he
policy has been for block masonry wall on the perimeter of all
projects, however this request is for the perimeter line whicfi
is at the base of the slope. He clarified that this might
assist drainage in that there is a constant 2 or 3 inch space
at the bottom of the fence. He noted that even with block
wall it is possible to taave a series of 1°weep'° rioles in the
fence.
Councilman Winkler commented that in the perfect world block
wall throughout the project would be desirable, but expressed
is understanding of the cost concerns. He indicated ~.hat his
~eintian~~ciergcris~m.ttl~ t~~af~ncaagom~nk~~~ifmsn tdndsta~~, gh~
combination of'fencing.
MOVED $Y WINKLER, SECONDED BY DOMINGUEZ TO REJECT PLANNING
COMMISSYON CONDITION NO. 24 AND APPROVE STAFF RECOMMENDAT%ONS,
Councilman Alongi requested clarification of the block wa11
requirement where visible from the street. Councilman Winkler
clarified that the side fences which are barely visible from
the street would be allowed.
Councilwoman Cherveny inquired whether the wood fencing would
be painted as opposed to bare wood, suggesting that painted
fencing has a better appearancee Ms. Ryal indicated that
they would prefer to treat/seal the bare wood fencing to make
i~ water resistant. She indicated that in her opinion, this
provides more protection than paint.
Councilwoman Cherveny inquired which developmen~ currently has
painted fences. Mr. Leslie indicated that Centex has painted
fencing, , Mrs. Cherveny indicated that those painted fences
really enhance the look of the development. Councilman Alongi
indica~.ed tha~ sealing the fences is less costly and keeps the
fences cleaner longer. He indicated that he would concur that
sealing sounds appropria~e.
Councilman Winkler questioned which would be bet~er for long
term aesthetics. Councilman Alongi indicated that sealing
would be better to -ceep water from permeating the wood. Ms.
Ryal concurred that sealing tends to last a bit longer than
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painting.
Councilman Winkler suggested leaving this decision up to staff
to determine the best alternative. With concurrence of the
second, this matter was added to the motion.
Councilman Alongi noted a letter received from David & Trish
Rupple on this matter.
THE FOREGOING MOTION CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE TO REJECT PLANNING
COMMISSION CONDITION NO. 24 AND APPROVE STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS AND
AMENDMENTS AS FOLLOW: THAT SIX FOOT (6') HIGH MASONRY WALLS SHALL
BE CONSTRUCTED ALONG ALL SIDE AND REAR PROPERTY LINES WITH TAE
FOLLOWING EXCEPTIONSS THAT WOOD FENCES AS PROPOSED BY THE
APPLICANT MAY BE ALLOWED ON ALL INTERIOR SIDE PROPERTY LINES AND ON
THE REAR PROPERTY LINES OF LOTS 4 AND 5 OF TRACT 19750-3 ONLY.
MASONRY OR BLOCK WALLS SHALL BE USED ON ALL EXTERIOR SIDE PROPERTY
LINES ADJACENT TO THE PROPERTY LINES ADJACENT TO A PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-
WAY OR THAT FORM THE TRACT OR PROJECT BOUNDARY~ THAT THE REAR
PROPERTY LINE FENCE FOR LOTS 21, 22, AND 23 OF TRACT 19750-1 (THE
MODEL AREA) MAY BE A COMBINATION BLOCK WALL (BOTTOM PORTION) AND
WROUGHT IRON (TOP PORTION); THAT THE ABOVE EXCEPTIONS ARE ONLY
APPLICABLE TO THE MODEL SITE AND PHASE I, ALL OTHER SUBSEQUENT
PHASES SHALL BE SUBJECT TO SEPARATE REVIEW AND APPROVAL; AND
TREATMENT OF WOOD FENCING, WHETHER PAINTED OR SEALED, SHALL BE
SUBJECT TO REVIEW AND APPROVAL OF THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT
DIRECTOR OR DESIGNEE.
BIISINE88 ITEMS
31. Century Homes Proiect Fencina - Located in the Summerhill
Development at the Northeast Corner of Summerhill Drive &
Canyon Estates Drive. (F:80.1)
City Manager Molendyk noted that Councilman Winkler and Mayor
Washburn had met with staff and Mr. Reinen at the site.
Robert Reinen, representing Century/Crowell Communities, noted
the report submitted to Council detailing fencing costs. He
further noted that the fences being discussed are in the
completed Phase I and currently the second phase is under
construction. He commented that any change in fencing would
represent a change in conditions from those in place when the
homes were purchased.
Mayor Washburn requested clarification of the costs presented.
Mr. Reinen explained that a block wall fence would need to be
eight feet tall with two feet below ground for footings.
Mayor Washburn noted a cost spread from $2,300 to $15,000 per
lot. Mr. Leslie further clarified the lot breakdown and
associated costs.
Mayor Washburn indicated that his understanding was that the
applicant is saying they received the approvals and met the
conditions and any changes would have to be done by the City.
Mr. Leslie clarified that there is some question as to whether
the conditions have been met.
Councilman Winkler noted the action at the previous meeting to
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stop building until the conditions have been me~. He detailed
~lanninq Commission condition #28, and noted that it doesn't
say the Community Development Director can'approVe`wood fences
on the right-of-way. He stressed the visibility of the wood
fencing from ltailroad Canyon Road and noted the Council has
the right to stop construction and demand that the developer
comply. He further noted that the City might have to replace
~he portion that has already been sold at an estimated cost of
$12,000 per lot and indicated he would consider that. He also
noted that if the City formally allowed soraething against
policy to happen, he would not be opposed to considering
action to correct it. He expressed concern that after
discussion of ~his item began, additional fencing appeared to
go up quite quickly. He indicated his gut reaction would be
to continue with the same motion preventing further
construction until conditions are met. He indicated that he
raas not excited about assisting with phase two fencing, but if
necessary he could only see assisting with the excess costs.
Councilman Alongi indicated that he would agree with
Councilman Winkler on this itemp if the Planning Commission
recommendation was to not use wood fencing in the visible
areas He disagreed, however, with the use of taxpayers money
to trespass on private property to correct this. He stressed
that the contractor was conditioned and the work should have
been done in compliance.
Councilwoman Cherveny inquired whether the City Attorney had
seviewed this issue; and suggested that if the condi~ion was
in place, the developer should be held to compliance. She
concurred with Councilman Alongi that she would not agree with
using City funds to correct the fencing. She further
indicated that if the developer had complied the City should
accept it, however, she would question whether the developer
had complied.
City Attorney Harper indicated that he was not certain what
~pproval staff might have given, however, ~he staff has no
legal ability to allow something contrary to the conditions.
Iie noted that there are a number of options to require
compliance including refusal to issue permits or Certifica~es
of Occupancg until compliance is reached. He noted that it is
more difficult to address the properties already soldo
Mr. Reinen concurred with Mr. Harper with regard to the first
phase which,has'been so1d. He noted that the second phase
plans had been submi~ted and reviewed with comments returned
~o them. He further noted that at that ~ime two bloclc walls
were extended by 20 feet. He indicated that he feels they
received review on behalf of the City and he would disagree
that the developer is the guilty partye
Councilman Winkler indicated that they could address the
project by phases, but tYiere is an outstanding motion to stop
construction.
MOVED,BY WINKLER, SECONDED BY CHERVENY TO REAFFIRM THE PRIOR MOTION
TO STOP CONSTRUCTION AND REQUIRE THAT CONDITION #28 BE COMPLIED
WITH BEFORE ADDITIONAL PERMITS OR CERTIFICATES OF OCCUPANCY ARE
ISSUED.
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Councilman Alongi indicated that he would like to see that no
City staff will alter the Planning Commission or City Council
approvals. He stressed that this type of situation should not
happen again.
Mayor Pro Tem Dominguez inquired whether staff understood
Council's direction.
Councilman Winkler indicated that there had been discussions
of block walls and combination fencing for reasons of privacy
and visibility. He noted that another option would need to be
explored for the properties which have already been sold. He
stressed the City's interest in providing a good product.
THE FOREGOING MOTION CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE
Councilman Winkler recommended consideration at a future City
Council meeting, but indicated he would like to have staff
look at the first phase and come back with cost estimates and
alternatives for replacement of the wood fencing.
32. Award of Contract for Lakeshore Drive & Chaney Street
Widenina. (F:156.2)
City Manager Molendyk explained this item, noting that the
residents had approached the City concerning future alignment
of Chaney Street. Ae further explained that as a result
additional concerns were raised that needed to be addressed on
at least a temporary basis. He also e~lained that the
Outflow Channel project will be further impacting Chaney
Street, when it is used as a detour. He noted new information
that the residents would be interested in participating
financially to ensure the project is completed with concrete
curbs and gutterse
Public Services Director Tecca no~ed that three alternatives
were presented to the residents and Council at a work session.
He further noted that this project for major intersection
improvements had been bid and was being recommended for
approval. He also noted that this was being considered as an
interim improvement. He indicated that the same project with
concrete curbs, gutters, etc. would cost about $276,000. He
explained that with an assessment district, spreading the cost
over 20 years, the total cost would be about $600,000, divided
by 20 lots, would be $30,00o per lot over a period of 20
years.
Mayor Washburn indicated that this was not feasible and
questioned the bids received and the extent of the
improvements. Mr. Tecca explained that all of the
improvements will be temporary and would need to be removed
before permanent improvements are done. He further explained
that the minimum is proposed to assist during the detour, and
permanent improvements could not be designed and completed in
time for the detour.
Councilwoman Cherveny inquired whether the use of Townsend was
an alternative for this detour, in that it is already widened
and improved. She stressed that it is only needed for 90
days and it would only require placing the left turn pocket on
Lakeshore.
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Mr. Tecca indicated that it is normally not appropriate to
detour on a local street. He stressed that Chaney is
dedicated as an arterial street, but indicated that legally
Townsend could be used on a temporary basise Yie noted the
number of units on Chaney vs. Townsend and indicated that
~here are nearly the same number of on each. Councilwoman
Cherveny noted that they do not all face Townsend. Mr. Tecca
indicated that the number facing Townsend is comparable to the
nwmber facing Chaney. He noted the severity of the cres~ of
the hill on Townsend and other difficulties with use of that
street. He indicated tha~ it would require more work to
improve Townsend, bu~ it might save $10,000 to 20,000.
Mayor Pro Tem Dominguez noted tha~ the asphalt sidewalks have
been sa~isfactory as installed on Lakeshore. He indicated
that he feels the residents would be happy with themo
Councilman Alongi questioned the potential for straightening
the curve on Chaney Streeto Mr. Tecca indicated that the
pepper trees will be removed and the stop sign will be
relocated to improve the visibility in this area, Mr. Alongi
questioned the potential for traffic backlog on Chaney Stree~e
Mr. Tecca detailed the proposal of Caltrans for detours using
Lake Street and Main Street and divertincy much of the traffic
from Central.
Councilman Alongi requested clarification of the stop sign
relocation. Mr. Tecca advised that it will be moved up the
hill about 50 feet from one leg of Sumner to the other.
Councilraan Alongi expressed concern that this would defeat the
original purpose of the stop sign.
Mayor Washburn concurred with the concern for doing the
project right and indicated that he would also like to see it
done right before the detour, but he would not have a problem
with the temporary improvements. He indicated that in the
long term it is important to do the concrete improvements and
stressed the need to target ~hat area. He further stated that
he would like to see those improvements now, but it is cost
prohibitive.
MOVED BY DOMINGUEZ, SECONDED BY ALONGI AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS
VOTE TO ACCEPT THE LOW BID AF $84,706.60 AND AWARD THE CONTRACT FOR
THE LAKESHORE DRIVE AND CHANEY STREET WIDENING PROJECT TO R.J.
NOBLE COMPANY.
33.
(F:112.1)
City Manager Molendyk indicated that this item was initiated
by'Council, however a number of questions have come up. He
suggested that this matter be continued to a Study Session.
EKOVED BY WASHBURN, SECONDED BY ALONGI TO POSTPONE THIS ITEM TO
ALLOW FOR A WORKSHOP.
City Manager Molendyk indicated that the City Cler~C would
coordinate this item for an upcoming study session.
Councilwoman Cherveny suggested notification ~o downtown
residents<
PAGE THIRTEEN - CITY COONCIL MINIITES - NOVEMBER 9s 1993
THE FOREGOING MOTION CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE.
COUNCILMAN WINKLER LEFT THE MEETING AT 9:00 P.M. DUE TO ILLNESS.
34. Temoorary Runwav - Skvlark Airbort. (F;14.1)
City Manager Molendyk indicated that this request relates to
runway 1/19 which was previously discussed at a special
meeting prior to the Autumnfest events. He explained that
this consideration is for use of that runway on a longer term
basis.
Richard Beckner, 32425 Cape Code Drive, commented that he is
interested in aircraft and that was part of his reason for
moving to the community. He noted that statement he was
required to sign prior to moving in acknowledging his
knowledge of the airport proximity and flight patterns. He
indicated that he has circulated petitions in support of this
runway and has received 100~ support in his neighborhood. He
also noted that the residents like the air activity and like
to see the gliders and parachutists. Mayor Washburn commented
that it was good to hear that the homeowners were aware of the
statement regarding aircraft. Mr. Beckner stressed that he
moved in for that reason. Mayor Washburn noted receipt of the
petitions.
Curly Annis, 33445 Skylark, advised that he is the Operations
Director for the airport and noted the interest in pursuing
additional activities.
Annie Johnson, 37 Silver Saddle Lane, Rolling Hills, advised
that she has gone door to door in the Serenity Tract and
another tract and has heard nothing but positive reqarding
this request. She noted that many of the residents indicated
that they enjoy watching the parachutists and gliders.
George Sedillo, 37 Silver Saddle Lane, Rolling Hills,
expressed appreciation to the Council for hearing their
requests He expressed his interest in holding events and
exposing people to aviation.
Mayor Washburn clarified that
a study session, but placed on
public has been informed.
this had been heard briefly at
this agenda to ensure that the
Councilwoman Cherveny thanked Tony Brogdon for his efforts to
notify the residents and noted that there were approximately
110 signatures of residents in support of the runway. She
detailed the conditions proposed in the staff report and
requested revisions (highlighted) as follow:
1. Skydive California notify the Serenity Development 6 Jean
Hayman School prior to resuming sky diving or gliding at
Skylark Airport.
Skylark Airport/Skydive California, provide the City of
Lake Elsinore with a copy of their insurance, in the
amoun~ of $1 million, showing the City of Lake Elsinore,
as additionally insured.
Skylark Airport/Skydive California, secure a Letter of
PAGE FOIIRTEEN - CITY COIINCIL MINIITE$'- NOVEMBER 9~ 1993"
Approval from the Department of Transportatiorro Division
of Aeronautics to use runway 1/19 as an active runway for
sky diving and glidinge
4. Skylark Airport/Skydive California secure written
approval from the Sheriff°s Department to use runway
1/19.
5. In the event khe ~ates aqain risea, to close 3/19, the
osiginal conditions would remain on runway 3/2t aad ottly
Mr. Perkins, Bkylark Aviation, would be allowed to land
and ~ake off.
6. Runway use is limited fo a Cessna-182 and a Polish Wilga
aircraft aperated bg skydive californiaa No other
aircraft is authosized to use the sunwap, pursuant to the
Departmen~ of Transportation Y.etter dated October 22,
1993.
7. Require that the airport provide a boat for parachutists
that miqht come down in the watea in the back basin, as
a sagety measure.
Councilman Alongi noted previously discussed concerns with the
ability to turn and clarified that although the residents of
Serenity were advised of the airport, the runway went in a
different direction at that time.
Mayor Pro Tem Dominguez indicated that Jean Hayman is
addressed by Caltrans. He commented that he heard nothing but
positive comments about the Autumnfest. He indicated that
this appears to be something f.he community appreciates.
Mayor Washburn inquired whether there would be any problem
with the proposed revisions to the conditionso
Tony Broqdon, Manager of Skylark Airport, advised that Jean
Fiayman School has been notified. Ae further advised that the
condition concerning the return of high waters was
appropriate. He indicated that with regard to the emergency
equipment for parachutists downed in the water, there is no
legal way to put a boat in that water. He further indicated
~hat he would hate ~o see ~his placed as a requirement when
there is no legal way to do it.
CounciYwoman Cherveny xequested clarification that this would
be illegal. Mr. Brogdon.indicated that his understanding is
tha~ it would not be legal to do so. City Attorney Harper
commented that it would most likely not be allowed, but
offered to investigate. Mr. Brogdon indicated that it was his
responsibility to designate wha~ is safe, under his permits
with Caltrans.
Councilwoman Cherveny questioned the let~er of October 22,
1993a ~rom Caltrans limitinq ~he aircraft which will be
allowed. Mr, Brogdon indicated that condition was for the
Autumnfest, particularly the Polish Wilga. He indicated that
his request to Caltrans-was that he be allowed to determine
what is safe. He explained that the Twin Otfier takes off
shorter and turns better than the Cessna. He stressed that
PAGE FIFTEEN - CITY COIINCIL MINDTES - NOVEMBER 9~ 1993
the letter of October 22, 1993, was in reference to the
Autumnfest, based on a call to Caltrans prior to the event.
Councilwoman Cherveny requested that the City receive a copy
of the new lettero
Mayor Washburn suggested issuance of a new letter naming the
appropriate aircraft. Mr. Brogdon indicated that he would
have that clarified.
MOVED BY ALONGI, SECONDED BY DOMINGUEZ AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS
VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO APPROVE THE REQUEST UPON RECEIPT OF THE
LETTER FROM CALTRANS AND SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS PREVIOUSLY
DISCUSSED.
Councilwoman Cherveny stressed the necessity of providing an
insurance certificate to the City.
35. Draft Amended Cardroom Ordinance No. 969. (F:34.1)
City Attorney Harper e~cplained that the City has been
approached by several interested parties for the ability to
license additional card rooms within the City of Lake
Elsinore. He further e~cplained that some years ago, prior
Councils amended the Ordinance to eliminate that possibility.
He clarified that under the current Ordinance there is only
one license allowed, and if it goes out of business then there
will be no card rooms allowed. Mr. Harper stated that the
Ordinance was redrafted to give the Council the ability to
approve additional card rooms if they meet the criteria set by
the Council, such as financial feasibility and the design of
the project. He explained that this provides an option to the
Council.
City Manager Molendyk e~lained that the City has two
potential applicants that would like to introduce their
concepts to the Council and show why they feel that Council
might want to modify the existing Ordinance. He suggested at
the request of Diamond Resorts and Lake Elsinore Hot Springs
that the Council receive presentations regarding their
proposalso
Mayor Washburn called on those persons requesting to speak as
follows:
Greg Block, 320 Oakbranch Drive, Encinitas, representing ERC
Group, Diamond Resort, explained that in the packaqe presented
to Council there are financial projections, economic design
details and the proposed plan, which is designed for a family
oriented designation resort. He explained that at complete
buildout it will be a$20,000,000 project which would provide
300 jobs and generate approximately $750,000 in tax revenue
annually for the City once the project is in full operation.
Mayor Washburn clarified that what Council is addressing
tonight is not the project, but rather changes to the Card
Room Ordinance.
Kim Quan, Studio Seven Architect and Planning, Fullerton,
representing Diamond Resort explained that the project is
PAGE SYZTEEI~Y - CITY COIINCIY, MYNQTES - NOVEMBER 9y 1993
boundecl on the west by Camino Del Norte, on the east and south
by Diamond Way (Elsinore Ridge Road). Yt is a 26 acre site
which is proposed to be developed in two phases. The first
phase would be the resort and conference center and the second
phase would be the hotel project. 34r. Quan gave an overviecs
of the proposed building plans which utilize the architectural
style and theme of the baseball stadium,
Allan Baldwin, 16496 I,ash, commented that he is in favor of
the amendment of the Ordinancee He explained the pxoposed
Lake Elsinore Hot Spxings Resort and the assets it will lend
to the downtown area, as well as encouragement to proceed with
the redevelopment and revitalization. Mr. Baldwin stated that
it would create new jobs and increase tourism to the downtown
area. He ask that Council consider the amendmen~ to the
Ordinance in order to encouraqe new development.
Jun Park, Architect for the Lake Elsinore Hot Sprinqs Resort,
explained the main purpose of the resort is to utilize the
indoor and outdoor activities available to tfie public. He
explained that the resort would offer hot mineral soaks and
mud baths, as well as family oriented water sports.
Mayor 6Tashburn explained that Council is looking at a
modification of the existing Ordinance, which would also
include an increase in gees and a change in the liquor
regulationse
City Attorney Harper explained that the rest of the changes
are to clean up the language of the Ordinance and to change
the section that addresses £he requirement ffor a U.S.
Citizenship to hold a license, which is no longer pertinent.
Mayor Washburn questioned the section that states that "More
than one permit may not be held by a single person.", and
as-ced if this should state corporation. City Attorney Harper
stated that it "person" is defined to cover that issue.
%Iayor Washburn questionecl tlae impact of the new fee structure
on the owners of the existing casino and asked if there might
be some ~ype of provision macie to allow ~hem to work into the
level of fees that the new Ordinance requires. He explained
~hat the City eaorked with ~he past owner to help acquire the
new owners for the casino and he felt that it would not be
fair to hit the new owners with the fees immediately after
~hey acguired ~he Casino and suggested it be phased in.
Ci~y At~orney Harper explained that he felt that it would be
approximately two years before any otrier project would be ora
line, and therefore a phasing in of the fee will not have a
nega~ive impact on the other potential resorts. Iie explained
that this is a draft Ordinance and can be changed to adjust to
tfie Council's desires.
Councilman Alongi commented tha~ his concern is in protecting
the present operator of the Casino, as they are spending a
tremendous amount of money to upgrade the Casino and i~ would
not be right to impose the new fees. He explained that he
feels that the new fees should start when their project i~
complete.
PAGE BEVENTEEN - CITY COIINCIL MIN[TTES - NOVEMgER 9, 1993
Councilman Dominguez commented that,;,,there are ~'different
scenarios that can be used to approach the Casino and an
extension of five years could be awarded to compensate him for
the amount of money and time spe~t to upgxader the current
faeility.
City Attorney Harper asked for clarification and inquired
whether the new fee structure should not be imposed until the
Casino is complete, and indicated that the other question is
whether more casinos should be allowed. He explained that
fees for the Casino have been discussed several times in the
Management, this w 11 cr ate a~ new m kethandtfees~shouldabe
appropriate.
Councilman Alongi explained that right now the new owners do
not have to do the improvements that they are doing and he
wished to encourage this action, not discourage it. He
indicated he would like to see the improvements continuing on
this site and not burden them with increased fees until such
time as the Casino has finished its improvements.
Councilwoman Cherveny suggested that the City Attorney have a
conversation with the current manager of the Casino.
City Attorney Harper stated that there was an alternative,
being if the Council was in general agreement with the
Ordinance, excluding the fees, they could adopt the Ordinance
to give the City the ability to approve other potential
licenses. He indicated that this would give the other
developers a signal as to what the City will do.
Councilwoman Cherveny asked what the basis was for not serving
liquor at~the gaminq tables. City Attorney Harper explained
that the no drinking~~ provision was common to cities with
small operations in the past. Councilwoman Cherveny then
asked if it was acceptable for drinking at, card tables now,
City Attorney Harper stated ~hat as a general rule it was.
She asked if it was common for fees to be collected on a
quarterly basis. City Attorney Harper stated that it was.
Councilwoman Cherveny then asked if the card room was going to
maintain its table count at 30 tables. She stated that she
did not have a problem with the Ordinance, and the only
concern she had was with the liquor, but it should be
consistent with other card rooms.
Larry Regis, Lake Elsinore Resort and Casino, 20903 Malaga
Road, explained that his firm has not had an opportunity to
review the Ordinance and asked that they be given a chance to
study the material prior to the Council taking action.
MOVED BY CHERVENY, SECONDED BY ALONGI, TO CONTINUE THE DRAFT
AMENDED CARDROOM ORDINANCE NO. 969 FOR TWO WEEKS FOR FURTHER
CONSIDERATION AND CHANGES TO BE REVIEWED BY THE CITY ATTORNEY.
Councilman Alongi explained that he does not have a problem
with the Ordinance or fees, but he stated that he feels that
Mr. Regis should be given an opportunity to review the
Ordinance and consideration should be given for the effort
that is being expended to improve an existing business.
PAGE SIGHTEEN - CITY COIINCIL MINOTESI- NOVEMSER 9~,'1943
John Giardinelli inquired why there could not be a first
reading of the Ordinance at this meeting, and if there are
changes to the Ordinance, then it could return for another
first reading. But, if there are no changes to the Ordinance
then it will return for a second reading. He suggested that
this would allow all interested parties to go forward with
their plans.
Councilman Alongi explained that he felt that two weeks was
not going to make any difference to the potentiaL applicants
and that it is a courtesy that should be extended to the
existinq card room owner to give him the opportunity to review
the Ordinance.
Mayor Washburn then called for the vote.
THE FOREGOING MOTION FAILED BY A 2-2 VOTE WITH DOMINGUEZ AND
WASHBURN CASTING THE DISSENTING VOTES.
Mayor Washburn stated that he felt that it should be at the
discretion of the City Attorney and explained that i£ there
are_ changes grom further review then it will return for
another first readinge
MOVED BY DOMINGUEZ, SECONDED BY WASHBURN, TO APPROVE THE DRAFT
AMENDED CARDROOM ORDINANCE EXCLUDING 5.28.060.
Councilwoman Cherveny asked for clarification as to whether
all of the amendments listed in the Ordinance except fees will
stand. Mayor Washburn indicated they would.
ORDINANCE 969
AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE,
CALIFORNIA, AMENDING CHAPTER 5.28 OF THE MUNICIPAL CODE
REGARDING CARD ROOMS AND PROVIDING FOR RULES AND REGULATIONS
CONCERNING EXISTING LICENSES.
AYESs COUNCYLMEMBEItSs
NOESS COUNCILMEMBERS:
ABSENT: COUNCILMEMBERSs
ABSTAIN: COUNCILMEMBERS9
DOMINGUEZ, WASHBURAI
ALONGI, CHERVENH
WINKLER
NONE
MOVED BY WASHBURN, SECONDED BY CHERVENY, AND CARRIED BY VOTE OF 3
TO 1 WITH DOMINGUEZ CASTING THE DISSENTING VOTE TO CONTYNUE THE
DRAFT AMENDED CARDROOM ORDINANCE NO. 969 FOR TWO WEEKS FOR FURTAER
CONSIDERATION AND CHANGES TO BE BROUGHT BACK TO COUNCIL FOR FIRST
READING.
36.
(F:134.10)
Mayor Washburn noted that this was requested by Councilman
Winkler and in his absence would recommend obtaining
additional information and deferring the item for two weeks.
MOVED BY WASHBURN, SECONDED BY DOMINGUEZ TO CONTINUE THIS ITEM FOR
TWO WEEKS.
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Councilman Alongi stressed the need for more information.
THE FOREGOING MOTION CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT.
PIISLIC COMMENTS - NON-AGENDI2ED ITEMS
Deferred to Redevelopment Agency Meeting.
CITY MANAGER COMMENT~
Deferred to Redevelopment Agency Meeting.
CITY CODNCIL COMMENTS
Deferred to Redevelopment Agency Meeting.
CLOSED SESSION
None.
THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING WAS JOURNED AT 10:20 P.M. TO WEDNESDAY~
NOVEMBER 10, 1993, AT 3:00 L~M. FOR DISCUSSION OF THE OAK GROVE
EQUITIES (WALMART) SITE. /~~
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