HomeMy WebLinkAbout07-15-1993 City Council Work SessionMINUTES
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE WORK SESSION
130 SOUTH MAIN STREET
CONFERENCE ROOM "A & B"
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA
THURSDAY, JULY 15, 1993
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CALL TO ORDER
The Work Session of City Council was called to order by Mayor
Washburn at 3:07 p.m.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Mayor Washburn.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: ALONGI, DOMINGUEZ, ~4INKLER, WASHBURN
ABSENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: CHERVENY
Also present were: Lake Advisory Committee Members: Dan Bender,
Robert Schiffner, Peter Dawson, Nick Nash, City Manager Molendyk,
Manager of Special Projects Watenpaugh, Administrative Services
Director Boone, Community Development Manager Shear, Community
Services Manager Best, City Planner Chip Leslie, Public Services
Director Tecca, City Treasurer Pape and Deputy City Clerk Bryning.
DISCUSSION
1. Update On Lake Treatment (F:92.1)
City Manager Molendyk explained that in the last week the
necessary maintenance adjustments were made for the launch
facilities to adjust for the evaporation of the Lake and the
decision was made by Council to use the micro organisms to
clean up the lake and this treatment is in progress.
Manager of Special Projects Watenpaugh explained that today is
the final treatment of the lake and that the remainder of the
culture will be held for spot treatment within the next eight
days. A type of copper sulfite was used around the lake edge
to address that area for immediate use which is a temporary
treatment. Mr. Watenpaugh then introduced Dr. Sutton who has
been doing the analysis of the Lake.
Dr. Sutton explained that it was his recommendation that the
City use the micro organisms to treat the blue green algae.
He further explained that he has seen a marked improvement in
several areas of the Lake and the treatment will take
approximately 60 days to clear the Lake. Dr. Sutton explained
that there will be several different processes that will occur
as the organism work.
City Manager Molendyk questioned the white foam on the La]ce
edge. Dr. Sutton explained that that is the result of the
break down of the blue green algae. The other change noted by
Dr. Sutton is the lack of smell due to the treatments. Dr.
Sutton explained that the spot treatments which will be
administered will be the beginninq of the ongoiing maintenance
program for the Lake.
Peter Dawson, Lake Advisory Committee member expressed concern
regarding the use of copper sulfite in the lake and its effect
on boats. City Manager Molendyk explained that the copper
sulfite will be phased out as the micro organisms take over.
The Copper sulfite was a temnorary treatment only.
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Dr. Sutton explained that the wind and boat action will affect
the areas where there is a heavy concentration of blue qreen
algae will appear heavy in spots and then clear up.
Manager of Special Projects Watenpaugh explained that the
solution of copper sulfite used is very light and that as the
micro-organisms take over, the copper sulfite solution will be
discontinued. He further explained that the copper sulfite
only lasts a short period of time whereas the micro-organisms
are the long term solution to the problem.
Mayor Washburn asked how the Aqua Treat will affect the bottom
of the Lake as far as the algae growth, as he has seen large
patches surfacing recently. Dr. Sutton explained that the
treatment is working and is breakinq loose and the heat will
also affect the growth and could cause another small bloom,
but will be addressed by the micro organisms. Dr. Sutton
pointed out that some forms of algae are necessary for the
health of the Lake and for fish and plant life.
Nick Nash, Lake Advisory Committee Member questioned the level
of the Lake and the amount of algae which will grow; and asked
if the depth of the lake being stabilized will aid in the
retardation of the growth of the algae. Dr. Sutton explained
the depth of water in the lake in which algae grows and
indicated that Lake Stabilization will assist in preventing
further growth of the alqae.
Mayor Washburn pointed out that this treatment is not the sole
answer for the Lake in the lonq term, it will also need to be
addressed through the fish population and control of the lake
level as well as treatment by the micro-organisms. Dr. Sutton
explained that the Lake is unique due to the depth and heat
and the alkaline and this will require further study for the
type of fish which will aid in the health of the Lake.
Dan Bender asked if the micro organisms aid in the production
of oxygen in the Lake which would promote the growth of fish
in the Lake. Dr. Sutton explained that the micro-organisms
eat the algae which chokes off the oxygen and will improve the
environment for the fish.
Mayor Washburn explained that the City must look at not only
the water in the Lake currently, but also the water imported
into the Lake and drainage as well as water received from up-
stream due to heavy rains. Information on the surrounding
area is necessary to maintain the balance of the Lake. Mr.
Washburn asked how the City insures that it is not accepting
problems from up-stream sources. Dr. Sutton explained that it
is not easy, but not impossible. It should include a hot line
from each sewage treatment plant which would alert the City of
an impending problem.
Peter Dawson stated that the primary source of water that the
Lake will be receiving will be the output from the water
treatment plant and is high in phosphate and asked what effect
this will have on the Lake. Dr. Sutton explained that it will
not affect the micro-organisms, but it does aid the growth of
blue green algae; but the treatment plant will be addressing
the amount of phosphate that will be released.
2. Lake Elsinore Master Plan/Economic Feasibility Study (F:92.1)
City Manager Molendyk explained that this is a budgeted item
which will answer the economic questions in regard to the
management of the Lake and the study will include boat
capacity, future launch facilities, and speed on the Lake for
different type of boats. He further explained that what the
study will ascertain is what is best for the economics of
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the Lake. Mr. Molendyk explained that part of the study will
address water access for all activities, the rules and
regulations, the type of concessions/campgrounds, special
events. This study will also include new facilities,
developmental costs, operational costs and revenue generation
that will be feasible for the economy of the Lake. He
explained that there will be future workshops to address the
items that will have to be addressed as the future needs are
recognized.
Manager of Special Projects Watenpaugh explained that a Master
Plan for the Lake is no different than a master plan for a
park or any other facility in terms of how it will be
developed and utilized. Mr. Watenpaugh explained the exhibits
and what the Master Plan of the Lake will entail.
City Manager Molendyk explained that the Master Plan will be
an additional tool in applying for 5tate Waterway Grants and
other recreational grants.
Ron Nobel, Nobel Consultants, Marine Engineer, explained that
his company is a civil engineering firm which deals only in
water front projects and gave a list of the type of projects
he has been involved in the past and explained that he would
be glad to answer any questions.
Dan Bender asked what the time line for this Master Plan would
be. Mr. Nobel explained that it would depend on the
requirements of the City regarding workshops and other
necessary meetinqs.
City Manaqer Molendyk explained that there are on goinq
projects such as the Lake Edge Specific Plan and others that
also affect the study. This will include development by the
City and also development by the private sector.
City Treasurer Pape asked if the Master Plan would go into
what the City would expect to collect on revenue. Mr. Nobel
- explained that there has not been discussion in regard to how
much detail would be expected, but this will be addressed in
the Master Plan.
City Manager Molendyk explained that part of the results of
the Master Plan would be to address the ability to generate
revenue from the Lake year round.
Mayor Washburn asked how we approach the revenue market. Mr.
Nobel explained the object is to attract the market and
develop a plan which will implement support for the different
elements available through the Lake activities.
Mayor Washburn asked how the Lake Edge Specific Plan would
affect the Master Plan of the Lake. Manager of Special
Projects Watenpaugh explained the incorporation of the Lake
Edge Specific Plan in the Master Plan of the Lake and
explained that it would be incorporated in the use and revenue
of the Lake.
City Treasurer Pape asked how closely the State Park would be
examined. Mr. Nobel stated that it would be examined and will
be incorporated in the study.
Peter Dawson stated that access of private residences to the
Lake will have to generate some type of revenue for the Lake
and questioned how much will it cost the private residences
for season passes versus day use and how it will be handled
this year. Community Services Manager Best stated that all
passes that have been issued will be honored and the City will
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be issuing passes at the same rate as the State until December
31, 1993. The amount will be reviewed for 1994.
Mr. Nash questioned the commercial value and private versus
public and how this will be addressed by the City. Mr.
Molendyk stated that this will be incorporated in the Master
Plan and it will be determined how involved in the revenue of
these enterprises.
City Treasurer Pape asked about the swimming areas. Mr. Nobel
stated that the sites will be addressed by the Master Plan and
addressed on a case by case basis.
Councilman Alongi asked where on the Lake a marina wouldbe
proposed. Mr. Nobel stated that there are several potential
sites and Manager of Special Projects Watenpaugh explained
that the State had identified a site next to the Out Flow
Channel as a potential site plus a Marina at the State
Recreational Area as well as the existing marina and a
potential marina in the East Lake area.
Dan Bender stated that it might be a good thinq to_ let the
people know what the City will expect on the Lake, such as
speed limits and rules and regulations and what facilities
will be available. Mr. Molendyk explained that the City will
strive for one development line all around the lake to give
the City jurisdiction over the development of the Lake.
Manager of Special Projects Watenpaugh explained that until
the water is clean it was decided that it would not be wise to
promote the use of the Lake for special events which would
reguire closure of the Lake. It was felt that it would be
preferable to keep the lake open for general use until late
fall or early spring.
Peter Dawson stated that short term, limited events could be
held to utilize the Lake and promote events on a small scale.
Councilman Alongi agreed that small events promoted on the
Lake would be good and help the local economy. But, the clean
up of the Lake is the most important.
City Manager Molendyk explained that until we know how the
clean up of the water is going, we should not promote events,
but in thirty days we will be more able to do the type of
events suggested. He further explained that as soon as the
water is clean, there is a promotional tape to be shown on OCN
in Orange County.
Nick Nash asked if the City could issue an update which could
be placed in the local businesses so that the citizens of the
community can know what is happening with the lake. Such as
the micro-organisms are not dangerous to humans and what is
available and what will be available.
Councilman Alongi stated that Lake information can be printed
in the local newspapers.
Pete Dawson asked if the City had considered rules and
regulations for the Lake, with one set for weekends and one
for during the week or lesser occupied times. Mr. Nobel
stated that this is the first day of discussions and this will
be developed at a later time. Mr. Dawson stated that water
safety needs to be addressed to protect the people and the
City.
Dan Bender stated that the Lake Advisory Committee will work
with the consultants and many of the ideas and plans will be
worked through with the City and the Committee. City Manager
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Molendyk concurred and explained that this would be addressed
in a possible Town Hall Meeting to give the public a chance to
give their input. Mr. Nobel stressed the importance of proper
input and having an idea of what the entire community would
want.
Jack Fry, Lake Elsinore Recreation Area stated that he works
for the concessionaire at the old State Park and would like to
be involved in the planning process.
THE WORK SESSION WAS ADJOURNED AT 4:49/1P.M.
. WASHBURN, MA
Respectfully submitted,
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VICKI KASAD, CITY CLERK