HomeMy WebLinkAbout03-30-1993 Special Joint CC/RDA MeetingMINUTES
SPECIAL JOINT CITY COUNCIL/REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MEETING
CITY.OF LARE ELSINORE
3131'S CHANEY STREET
LARE EL3INORE~ CALIFORNIA
TUESDAY~ MARCH 30~ 1993
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CALL TO ORDER
The Special Joint City Council/Redevelopment Agency Meeting was
called to order by Mayor Washburn at 4:10 p.m.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Mayor
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: COUNCILMEMBERS/BOARDMEMBERS:
ABSENT: COUNCILMEMBERS/BOARDMEMBER:
Washburn.
ALONGI, CHERVENY,
DOMINGUEZ, WINKLER,
WASHBURN
NONE
Also present were: City Manager Molendyk, City Attorney Harper,
Administrative Services Director Boone, Public Services Director
Tecca, Manaqer of Special Projects Watenpaugh, Special Projects
Coordinator Wood, City Treasurer Pape and City C1erk Kasad.
BII3INESS ITEM
Lake Transfer Aqreement.(F:68.1)(X:92.1)
Councilman Winkler commented on the ongoing process to obtain the
Lake Transfer Agreement and advised that he had been in Sacramento
negotiating on Friday, March 26 and Monday, March 29, with the
final document faxed this date. He noted that there was a separate
underlying agreement for lake operations. He read the following
memo from Gregory V. Moser, Special Counsel dated March 30, 1993:
The State of California has proposed an agreement to
transfer the Lake Elsinore Recreation Area. It is my
understanding that this proposal is being provided
concurrently to the City and the Elsinore Valley
Municipal Water District.
This memorandum summarizes the most significant features
of this aqreement.
Lake Transfer. The Lake Elsinore Recreation Area would
be transferred to the City of Lake Elsinore as of July 1,
1993. At that time, the City would receive from the
State $1.5 million to be used in connection with the
lake. The City would also accept an assignment of the
concession agreement from the State; however, the State
would remain responsible for the current litigation with
the concessionaire over the payment of certain fees.
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The City will receive title to the lake, the exclusive
right to the use of the surface of the lake, and the
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right to add or remove water from the lake for recreation
aesthetic purposes. This is in precise accord with the
agreement between the City and the Elsinore Valley
Municipal Water District. The City would be obligated to
use these assets for public park and recreation purposes;
if it fails to do so, the State of California could
reenter the property.
Patrol Services and Management. Under a related
agreement, the State will continue to provide the current
level of park patrol and management services through June
30, 1994. Thereafter, the City would gradually increase
its role in lake patrol and management until it becomes
fully responsible in October, 1995. The State would also
provide the equipment currently being used at the lake to
the City.
Water Rights. The State would reserve, for subsequent
grant to the Elsinore Valley Municipal Water District,
its water rights, and an easement to store water in the
lake above the 1240' elevation, and the right to use the
island wells, in precise accordance with the language of
the agreement between the City and District. The
District's easements for water storage, water rights and
the use of the island wells would have to be used in a
manner consistent with the City's use of the Lake
Elsinore Recreation Area for public park and recreation
purposes, or be subject to reversion to the State, just
as the City~s rights are. These property rights would
not include the right to use the surface of the lake,
wh.ich is specifically reserved to the City.
Upon execution of this proposed agreement with the State
by the City, and its approval by the Elsinore Valley
Municipal Water District, the City would have an
obligation to pay $3 million to the District, under the
terms of the City-District agreement.
Councilman Winkler noted that since this was a business item,
public comments were not necessary, but yielded the floor to those
requesting to speak.
Ken Van Vechtan, representing Supervisor Bob Buster read the
following letter to Mayor Washburn from the Supervisor dated March
30, 1993:
It is with grave concern that 2 am writing in reqard to
the pending lake transfer agreement. while I support
=t local control of Lake Elsinore, I am bothered by the
timing of this meeting, the dearth of information
regarding the transfer and the inability of the pubic to
properly review and comment on this particular transfer
agreement.
I am specifically concerned about the following:
* As of 10 a.m. this morning, the City, hence Riverside
County, other local agencies and interested residents,
did not have in its possession a copy of the agreement.
It troubles me that such an 'important decision would be
contemplated without the public and affected agencies
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having the full and complete opportunity to review the
document.
* City staff comments aside, the County and residents of
the unincorporated areas do have a vested interest in the
lake transfer and what transpires in its aftermath.
Land-use in adjoining areas, recreational development and
launch rights are but three areas of concern that are
directly affected by lake ownership.
* Public utterances notwithstandinq, the City appears to
have done little to assuage public fears that launch ,:.
rights will cease when the City assumes control of the
lake. The City has even gone so far as to seek outside
legal counsel's opinion on launch rights, and that
opinion does not bode well for Lakeland Villaqe
residents. i do not advocate a free-for-all on Lake
Elsinore. The City will need to police the lake and
control the use of it. However, I cannot sit idly by and
watch County residents being denied access to the lake.
* When transfer negotiations began, the City was
required to develop a lake use, development and
recreation plan. No such plan exists, nor does it appear
as if one will be required. However, the City is
proceeding with the Lake Edqe Specific Plan. I continue
to be willing to work with the City on Lake Edge, but
only with the continued input of Lakeland Village
residents.
I empathize with the City's desire to secure the lake.
However, a transfer authorized today will prove no more
beneficial to the community than one authorized next
week, or next month. It would be inappropriate.to take
precipitous action on a document few people have seen.
The importance of this issue demands a full public
accountinq. To that end; I hope that you will postpone
a decision on this matter and join with me in co-
sponsoring public hearings on this version of the lake
transfer agreement.
Thank you for your time and best wishes to you and the
Council. I look forward to hearing from you on my
concerns and my offer.
Carol Shackleford, 16022 Grand Avenue, representing Weekend
Paradise R.V. Park, echoed the comments of Supervisor Buster. She
commented on the process which was to include working with the
County. She stressed the rights of the residents to have lake and
beach rights.
Bob Williams, P.O. Box 519, commented that he had not seen the
agreement. He indicated that Councilman Winkler is his attorney
and expressed concern that this agreement would impact his property
holdings and water rights.
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Lela Cardoza, 30o Ellis, questioned the hurry for this meeting.
She commented that she was surprised that Councilman Dominguez
would allow Councilmembers Winkler and Washburn to tell him how to
vote. She suggested more time be taken for this decision.
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B.J. Grant, questioned whether there were side-line agreements to
this contract. He suggested that the Council had not fulfilled its
obligations to the State under AB 1697, to meet and negotiate with
the County residents.
Ken Howard, 17540 Grand Avenue, commented on the Lake Edge Plan and
the 2oning for the south shore. He suggested that the Mayor h.ad
used his authority to do Collier Avenue for the Outlet Center to
draw businesses selling foreign merchandise. He stressed that the
County residents are entitled to their launch rights due to the
high prices paid for their property. He commented on population
estimates for the future and noted that the lake is already too
small for the population.
Helena Holman, addressed Mayor Pro Tem Dominguez suggesting that
the credit deserved is not being given. She noted that if Mayor
Washburn is recalled then Mr. Dominguez will be the Mayor and
receive the feedback and consequences of this agreement.
Marge Rieder, 300 Ellis, questioned the big deal of lake ownership.
She stressed the difficulties in keeping water in the lake and the
concerns with reclaimed water use.
Leon Strigotte, 216 Chaney Street, commented on the County
residents who don't want to be in the City limits, but want to
dictate to the City. He indicated that this agreement is the
result of a long term effort. He noted that he did not hear that
the agreement intended to cut out launch rights. He stressed the
importance of this agreement, in allowing the City to control the
lake and cle.an it up. He stressed that this is the culmination of
13 years of negotiations and discussions. He further stressed that
he had heard no mention of loss of launch rights.
Dick Knapp, 29690 Dwan, indicated that he was uncertain what was
occurring and questioned the receipt of this document. He
questioned the level of planning on this issue and suggested that
the Council wait to approve the contract.
Edith Stafford, commented that this action supports her belief that
the recall is the right action. She hoped for the Council to use
their conscience in voting on this issue. She demanded that the
County residents and the City residents be provided with the
document. She further demanded that she see a copy of the
agreement before action is taken.
Chris Hyland, 15191 Wavecrest, asked why this meeting was being
held. She questioned the remaining town hall meetings on the lake
=R and why the City could not wait for this action. She suggested
that everythinq had occurred behind closed doors.
Daniel Orrey, 150 E. Lakeshore, indicated that he was appalled that
the Council would consider a document of this magnitude without
reviewing it. He stressed the importance of the Lake for the
Community. He asked for consideration of tabling this agreement
for further study.
Peter Dawson, 18010 Grand Avenue, representing Southshore
Homeowners Association, commented on the 500 water front residents
in the County area versus 7 in the City." He stressed the concerns
of the County residents, indicating that the Southshore Homeowners
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Association is not comfortable with this approval without an
agreement on their launch'rights. He requested that the Council
allow time for the inspection of the document.
Councilman winkler commented on proposed agreement indicating that
it does more than transfer the lake from the State to the City; it
incorporates the City/Water District Agreement, which nothing in
this agreement would intend to change. He explained that launch
rights are not an issue of the transfer itself, noting that any
rights held by the State will be acquired. He noted that the Lake
Edge Specific Plan was still being reviewed, and a letter has been
sent to County residents by the Mayor indicatinq that launch rights
should be protected. He indicated that the only other issue in
this agreement is the payment of $1.5 million to the City from a
1986 Bond issue. He noted that this transfer was his goal when he
assumed the Chairmanship of the Redevelopment Agency. He stressed
that his meeting with the State was to wrap up pending issues. He
detailed the levels of service to be provided by the State through
the transfer and equipment to be provided by the State.
MOVED BY ALONGI, SECONDED BY CHERVENY TO POSTPONE THIS AGREEMENT TO
THE NEXT REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY MEETING.
MOVED BY WINKLER, SECONDED BY WASHBURN A SUBSIDIARY MOTION TO
APPROVE THE LAKE OPERATIONS, AUTHORIZE THE MAYOR OR MAYOR PRO TEM
TO SIGN ALL APPROPRIATE DOCUMENTATION RELATING TO THE TRANSFER AND
AUTHORIZE THE CITY/REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY TO PUT INTO ESCROW $3
MILLION AT THE EARLIEST POSSIBLE POINT IN TIME.
Councilman Winkler noted that another issue of urgency is the
recall election being held this date. He suggested that if the
recall is successful the City may close down and he wants to ensure
that the agreements are finalized.
THE SUBSIDIARY MOTION WAS APPROVED BY A VOTE OF 3 TO 0 WITH ALONGI
AND CHERVENY ABSTAINING FROM VOTE.
Councilwoman Cherveny indicated that she had abstained from vote
because the information was not provided in sufficient time for
review.
ADJOURNMENT
THE MEETING WAS ADJOURNED AT 4:50 P.M.
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