HomeMy WebLinkAbout02-08-1994 City Council MinutesMINOTES
REGIILAR CITY COLTNCIL MEETING
CITY OF LARE ELSINORE
31315 CHANEY STREET
LARE ELSINORE~ CALIFORNIA
TIIESDAY~ FEBRIIARY 8~ 1994
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CALL TO ORDER
The Regular City Council Meeting was called to order by Mayor
Washburn at 7:02 p.m.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
The Pledge of Allegiance was led by City Attorney Harper.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: ALONGI, CHERVENY, DOMINGUEZ, WINKLER,
WASHBURN
ABSENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: NONE
Also present were: City Manager Molendyk, Assistant City Manager
Rogers, City Attorney Harper, Administrative Services Director
Boone, Community Development Manager Shear, City Planner Leslie,
Community Services Director Sapp, Public Services Director Tecca,
Manager of Special Projects Watenpaugh, City Treasurer Pape and
City Clerk Kasad.
PRESENTATIONS/CEREMONIALS
A. Proclamation - Touqhlove Proctrams Aaainst Violence Month.
(F:122.1)
Mayor Washburn read and presented this Proclamation to
Touqhlove Representatives Sandra Fischer and Jody Franz,
Sandra Fischer thanked the City for this recoqnition and
explained that they provide services to all ages. She noted
that they are planning a fundraiser for their (800) telephone
number.
Jody Franz detailed the Fundraiser to be held on February 13
and noted the contributions of local businesses.
B. Presentation - Report on Outflow Channel Project. (F:92.3)
James Lowe, 3 B's Construction, noted that the excavation work
on this project had been temporarily shut down due to the
recent rains. Yie advised that the mitigation pond at Baker
Street is complete. He also noted that Graham Street is
presently 1 to 2 weeks behind schedule due to utility work.
He detailed the anticipated opening dates for the road
currently shut down.
Councilman Alongi noted the existing condition on Minthorn
Street and questioned alternatives for the road. Mr. Lowe
indicated that Minthorn was being used as a detour for Collier
Street and would be used for approximately 45 days. He
indicated that they are currently looking at alternatives with
the Corps of Engineers. Councilman Alongi stressed that the
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road is nearly impassible. Mre Lowe commented briefly on
possible solutions and noted that any of them would increase
the costs of ~he project.
City Manager Molendyk questioned the possible resolutions and
what the City could do to facili~ate a clecision. NIr. Lowe
gndicated that Mro Tecca has aYready done what is neeclede
City Manager Molendyk suggested that if appropriate it miqht
be possible ~o address this in a letter from the City Attorney
to the Corps.
A gentleman in the audience indicated that it was unreasonable
to be writing letters and not taking action on the road. Mre
Lowe stressed that discussions are underway, but all of the
soTutions are costYy. City Manager Molendyle suggested the
possibility of a letter from Emergency Services, in that
public safety services must also negotiate these roadso
Mayor Washburn stressed that efforts are underway, however,
~his is a Corps. of Engineer°s project and the City can take
no action to directly impact it.
PIIBLIC COMMENT~ - AGENDIZED ITEM3
Requests to address the Council ora the following items were
received and deferred to the individual discussions:
Item Nos. i.ao, l.c., 31, 33, 34, 350
CONSEI4'P CAI,ENDAR
The following items were pulled from the Consent Calendar for
further discussion ancl consideratione
Ytem Nos. l.a., i.c., 3 and 4.
MOVED BY CHERVENY, SECONDED BY WINKLER AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS
VOTE 'I'O APPROVE THE BALANCE OF THE CONSENT CALENDAR AS PRESENTED,
1. ~'he £ollowing Minutes were approved:
(F:44.4)
b. City Council Study Session - January 20, 1994.
2. Received and ordered filed trie Ynvestment Report for December,
1993. (F:12.5)
5, Acceptecl Notice of Completion for Grand Avenue & Lincoln
Street, Landscape and Streetscape West Lake Elsinore,
Community Facilities District 88°3 for Lambaren Contrac~ors,
Inc. (F:22.3)
YTEM~ PULLED FROM GONSEN'P CAY,ENDAFZ
le Aiinutes (Fc44o4)
a. Regular City Council Meeting - January li, 1994.
c. Regular City Council Meeting - January 25, 1994.
David Y,ocke, 15025 Monty Court, challenged the above mentioned
Minutes, noting that he had reviewed the videotape. He
expressed concern that the text and title of the ordinance
were not read at the meeting of January 11, 1994. He also
expressed concern that a majority vote had not been received
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on the ordinance as required by State law. He also commented
that Councilman Winkler had moved to approve the ordinance
upon second reading and then abstained from the vote. He
indicated that he was not allowed to speak until after the
roll call vote had been taken.
Mayor Washburn suggested that Mr. Locke direct his comments to
the City Attorney in writing.
MOVED BY CHERVENY, SECONDED BY WINKLER AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS
VOTE TO APPROVE THE MINUTES AS PRESENTED.
3. Warrant List - January 31, 1994. (F:12.3)
Councilwoman Cherveny questioned the warrant issued to First
Trust Bank. Administrative Services Director Boone indicated
that it was a tax deposit, and noted that all accounts have
now been transferred from First Trust Bank to Bank of America.
Councilwoman Cherveny questioned the warrant issued to World
Class Productions. Mr. Boone advised that this was a deposit
for the July 4th entertainment. She further questioned
warrant 40209 in the amount of $693.00. Mr. Boone advised
that this was for seminar registration.
MOVED BY CHERVENY, SECONDED BY ALONGI AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE
TO RATIFY THE WARRANT LIST AS PRESENTED.
4. Claim Aaainst the Citv - James Sanchez (CL #94-1). (F:52.2)
Councilman Alongi noted that this claim was due to dirt on
local streets in relationship to the Outflow Channel project,
and advised that he has received several letters from
residents. He commented that the sweeping being done is not
adequate and stressed the need to keep the area cleaned up.
MOVED BY ALONGI~ SECONDED BY CHERVENY AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE
TO REJECT AND REFER THIS CLAIM TO THE CITY'S CLAIMS ADMINISTRATOR
FOR HANDLING AND DIRECTED THE CITY CLERK TO SO ADVISE THE CLAIMANT.
POBLIC HEARINGS
21.
The City Clerk reported no new written correspondence.
Mayor Washburn opened the public hearing at 7:23 p.m. and
asked those persons in favor of this zone change to speak,
The following person spoke:
City Manager Molendyk explained that this item was presented
to Council at the January 11, 1994, meeting and no action was
taken because the motion to approve failed as a result of a 2
to 2 vote. He noted that the matter has been readvertised to
all the affected property owners within a 300 foot radius.
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Denise Thompkins, 218 Chaney Street, spoke in support of the
zone change and presented several letters from ~he residents
an Chaney Stree~ in favor of the zone change. She stated that
they did not want the area to remain zoned R-2. Ms. Thompkins
explained that because of tfie design and location of Chaney
Street there have been major traffic problems ancl continuing
the R-2 zoning would only add to the current problems. She
asked that Council change the zoning to R-1 and explained that
she and her neighbors were not opposed to rentals, just multi-
family units. She e~lained that there are several single
family homes rented in the area and they do not mind that.
Ms. Thompkins guestioned the status of the request for a
Traffic Radar device and stated that Public Services Director
Tecca had not been in contact with her yet.
Mayor Washburn then asked those persons in opposition to the
matter to speak. The following person spokee
Roy Terrebonne, 215 Chaney Street, spoke in oppositian to the
zone change. He explained that his property would loose value
and that he has been treated unfairly by the Citye He stated
that he should have been informed that the property would nof
remain R-2 prior to acquiring it,
Hearing no further comments, Y+Iayor Washburn closed the public
hearing at 7:29 p.m,
MOVED BY WINKLER, SECONDED BY DOMYNGUEZ TO ADOPT ORDINANCE PIO. 971.
Councilman Alongi responded to Ms. Thompkins and explained
~ha~ when that area was annexed it was zoned R-2 and anyone
f.hat lived on Chaney Street who did not want the area zoned R~
2 should have come before Council at that time. He explained
that anyone raho purchased houses or proper~y after the
annexation should have -cnown that it was R-2 zoning and that
the single-family 2aomes that were built were on R-2 zoned
property at the time of building. Mr. Alongi stated tfiat it
is not fair to punish those who own R-2 property, because of
those persons who choose to build R-1 and did not take
advantage of the R-2 zoning. He stated that the R-2 zoned
property is always ~rea~ed as R-1 since the requirements anci
setbacks are the same. The density called for is 6 per acre
and comes out to 7,200 square foot lots and is not an issuea
&%e stated that fie saw this action as an inverse condemnation
while directTy behind the proposed zone change is more R-2
~roperty and this raould create a cycTe of the persons who
wished to be zonecl R-1 now complaining about the R-2 zoning
behind them and so on. Yie explained that someone has to be
across the street from something and no one can be an island
unto themselves. He stated that this should have been changed
during the annexation and not now since it cioes reduce the
property values in that area and a plan can be developed where
the quality of the product built will appear compatible.
Councilwoman Cherveny stated that she recognized that the trio
was going to have the vote, but wanted to comment that she was
not in favor of down zoning the property and she feels that
the City is loosing integrity through this type of action,
Councilman Winkler stated that the Council needs to look at
building better neighborhoods as the City grows and he felt
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that this had not been done in the past because there are too
many multi-family dwelling units in the City. He explained
that regardless of his personal stand on renting, if there is
an imbalance of types of dwelling units, there is the
potential of more crime and poor maintenance of property. He
stated that he feels that the situation is changing, but that
the Council needs to keep up on this issue to continue to have
a better community. He indicated that the Council should
encourage more and more single-family residences to be built
in the future and encourage a decrease in multi-family
dwelling units until the proper balance is attained. Mr.
Winkler stated that it is the duty of Council to build better
neighborhoods. He stated that crime locates in areas which
are older or run down and in high density areas. He suggested
that the Council should be concerned with the people that live
in single-family homes and the effect on their neighborhoods.
Mr. Winkler noted the gentleman who spoke in opposition to the
zone change and stated that the City had treated him unfairly,
should note that Councilwoman Cherveny did vote against his
project previously. He pointed out that she could change her
mind, but he wanted to note that. He explained that the
history of this area shows that the prior Councils had the
intent of changing this area, but did not follow up on it and
suggested that Council could address this now. Mr. Winkler
commented that Councilman Alongi stated that there is a market
for multi-family dwellings; and explained that there has been
a market, in the past, for high density, substandard dwelling
units and builders have taken advantage of that market. He
stated that in the last several years Council as increased the
quality of building and it is beginning to improve. He cited
the West End of the Community. Mr. Winkler stated that when
other people have built R-1 on R-2 property, perhaps that is
because it is the best use of the area. He explained that
increasing the standards of any buildinq is very difficult and
pointed out that in the past Councilman Alongi has pushed for
a no frills situation. He noted that when he was Mayor and
interviewed Councilman Alongi for Planning Commission his
philosophy was that the City Council and the Government does
not have the authority to ask for anything more than what the
minimum is and his current statements are inconsistent with
what he has stated in the past.
Councilman Alongi strongly disagreed with Councilman Winkler.
He asked if hard working renters, who cannot afford buy a
home, have no integrity; and regarding the statement on no
frills, he was speaking in regard to entry level housing and
not duplexes. He pointed out the problems with drainage and
indicated that the former Councils have approved the areas
which are now slums. He cited the homes built on Lowell
Street he has built and indicated they are better. He stated
his views on air conditioning unit placement. He explained
his stand on a"no frills" philosophy. Mr. Alongi further
explained that if he were to purchase R-2 property, which is
more expensive, he would build R-2.
Mayor Washburn clarified that the Chaney Street area has
developed in an R-1 manner and pointed out the lack of
infrastructure in that area. He stated that because of those
circumstances he feels that it should be developed out with
sinqle-family structures.
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Councilman Dominguez stated that the terrain answers the
question regarding whaf is being built next ~o each other.
THE EOREGOING MOTION WAS APPROVED BY THE FOLLOWING ROLL CALL VOTE:
ORDINANCE NO. 971
AN ORDINANCE OF TAE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE,
CALYFORNYA, REZONING AN AREA ALONG THE WEST SIDE OF CHANEY
STREET BETWEEN HEALD AVENUE TO THE SOUTH, TRELEVEN AVENUE TO
THE NORTH, WITH THE WESTERN BOUNDARY BEING WILSON WAY, ADAM
AVENUE, SUMNER AVENUE, DRISCOLL STREET, MORTON STREET, CALKINS
AVENUE AND GEDGE AVENUE FROM R-2 MEDIUM DENSITY RESIDENTIAL TO
R°1 SINGLE-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL (ZONE CHANGE 93-6: CITY OF Y,AKE
ELS%NOREj.
UPON THE FOLLOWYNG ROLL CALL VOTE:
AYES: COUNCILMEMBERS: DOMINGUEZ, WINKLER, WASHBURN
NOESC COUNCILMEMBERS: ALONGI, CHERVENY
ABSENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: NONE
ABSTAIN: COUNCILMEMBERS: NONE
COiJNCILMAN ALONGI LEFT THE MEETING AT 7:50 P.M.
22. Street Name Chanae - Short Street to Main Street Resolution
No. 94 9e (E.158e1)
City Manager Molendyk explained this item and detailed the
location of Short Streeto
The Ca.ty Clerk reportecl no writ~en comments or protests.
%~Iayox Washburn opened the public hearing at 7:50 p.m. asking
~hose persons interested in this item to spealc. Hearing xzo
one, the public hearing was closed at 7:51 p.m.
MOVED BY WASHBURN, SECONDED BY CHERVENY AND CARRIED BY A VOTE OF 4
TO 0 WITH ALONGI ABSENT TO ADOPT RESOLUTION NO. 94-9.
RESOLUTYON NO. 94-9
A RESOY,UTYOI3 OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF I,AKE ELSINORE,
CALIFORNIA, CHANGING THE NAME OF SHORT STREET TO MAIN STREET.
COUNCIY,MAN ALONGY RETURNED Z'O THE NIEETYNG AT 7:52 P.M.
BUSINESS ITEMS
31.
City Manager Molendyk explained that this item was requested
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by Councilman Winkler. He advised that it is a request for
rezoning of the area from mixed use to residential use only.
City Attorney Aarper stated that adopting this resolution only
accomplishes setting the public hearing at the Planning
Commission level and this is only a start to the public
hearing processo
MOVED BY WINKLER, SECONDED BY DOMINGUEZ TO ADOPT RESOLUTION NO.
94-10.
Mayor Washburn then called on those persons who wished to
speak on the matter as follows:
Jack McColley, 29072 Palm View, stated that the Planning
Department, City Council, School District and the Community
have been very clear in their intentions and desires in regard
to the development of this site. He explained that there are
no strict guidelines governing its development, but the
surrounding property is single-family development and he is
encouraging the Council to rezone this single-family
residential to be compatible with ~he surrounding property.
Lois Knight, 16504 Mango Way, stated she was in favor of the
resolution.
Chris Hyland, 15191 Wavecrest Drive, asked Councilman Winkler
if he was buying votes by appeasing the people in that area.
She stated that the owner paid $4,000,000 for the property and
the Council is taking away his right to develop as he chooses.
She asked why the staff report did not mention the signatures
on the petition which were in favor of the project versus the
persons in opposition to the project.
Diana Gilliham, 16505 Mango Way, stated that the Lewis Homes
directly across the street from the property being discussed
this evening are in bad shape. She stated that if she were
the owner of Lewis Homes she would not build across from a
project that is low quality commercial development. Mrs.
Gilliham stated that she and her neighbors do not want this
property to be commercial.
Mark Manson, a representative of Komerica, stated that his
clients did pay $4,000,000 for the property and they wish to
produce a high quality of product of mixed use on the project
site. He stated that they would like to cooperate with the
City and that this project would bring jobs. Mr. Manson
stated that since 1990 the General Plan has precluded any
development of the subject prior to the adoption of a Specific
Plan. Komerica has tried to satisfy that requirement and has
spent a qreat deal of money doing an EIR to satisfy the
Council's conditions. He stateci that his clients complied
with all the requirements of the General Plan and he stated
that this is clearly an inverse condemnation and litigation is
inevitable if the City proceeds with this and creates a cloud
on the property.
Councilman Alongi commented that this property has been
properly designed and there were 344 residents opposing the
plan, 147 residents partially opposed to the plan and 2,226
residents in favor of the project. He stated that he was
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aware that part of the signatures on the petitions were from
fkae Coun~y, but the City does compete for the ~taxes from the
County and that is why the City built K-Mart to capture their
dollars. Mr. Alongi stated ~hat if the City had sucri a
problem with the first developer, the zoning staould have been
changed then. He stated that now the second property owner,
has invested $4,000,000 and the time and money since ~o
pxoceed with the project and the City is telling him that he
can not proceed. He cited the many residents who live across
from commerciaT development and stated that since this Council
prides itself on quality development they would not let a
product go in that would not meet those standards. He further
stated that there are many documents presented that show the
City was going to allow that development to go in. He cited
the findings and stated that this project should go £orwardo
Councilman Winkler stated that he has been fighting the
concept of commercial in that area for eight years and that it
has never been settled. He explained that the reason the area
was designated Specific Plan was because ~he Council at that
time was not sure wha~ they wanted to go in there; but it was
specified at the time that it could be totally R-1 and was
noted. The Specific Plan does not call for Commercial right
now, and the Specific Plan can be R-1 this is to clarify the
best use for the property. Mr. Winkler stated that his goal
is to promote better neighborhoods and there are far too many
strip centers in the community which should be avoided. He
stated that there are several vacant buildings and noted
locations of other appropriate commercial property. He
explained that he felt that there should be large areas of
single-family residential to provide serenity and beauty. Mr.
E+Tinkler stated that after the first project was denied the neor
property owner should have more thoroughly investigated the
background to understand the area.
Councilwoman Cherveny stated ~hat if tha~ property was to be
R-1 then when the General Plan was formed, then it should have
been zoned R-1. She stated that when the Pease owned the
property and the General P2an was being done the commercial
was retained and areas were split in zoning to accommodate the
school. She stated that she felt that this whole issue was
political and pointed out the number of people in favor of the
project versus the people opposed. She stated that this
undermines the integrity of the City and she felt the person
who purchased the property was within his right to develop
commercial.
Councilman Winkler stated that tkae petitions were cited and
there have been several petitions circulated, but when the
issue was presented to Council the people who appeared to
testify were overwhelmingly apposed to this project and the
cancept og commercial.
CounciTman Alongi stated that the reason that ~Cfiis property
was purchased and the owner pursued development was because
one of the persons on Council was in favor of that cievelopment
and he felt that tfie persons who were in favor of the
development did not come forward because they felt that with
that Councilman's support there would be a majority vote and
the project would proceed. That Councilman changed his mind
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at the meeting. He stated that just as other Councilmen have
said, he also wants a better community. He stated that he is
proud of what he has done in this community and criticized
Councilman Winkler for his attitude regarding R-2 property and
renters. He stated that they are not criminals. He stated
that it is not the property that makes the people bad, it is
the people themselves and it is the City's job to clean them
out of the City. He stated that the City Manager and Council
have noted that the City has a professional staff and he felt
that their quidance and findings should be considered and the
entire community should be represented, not just the few.
Mayor Washburn again reminded Council and the audience that
this is not a zone change, but rather a Resolution of Yntent.
~e e~lained the process and advised that it is up to Council
to consider proper use. He stated that he has mixed feelings
in regard to this issue and stated that he would like to see
this go forward for consideration.
THE FOREGOING MOTION WAS APPROVED WITH A 3 TO 2 VOTE WITH ALONGI
AND CHERVENY CASTING THE DISSENTING VOTES.
RESOLUTION NO. 94-10
A RESOLUTION OF INTENTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF
Y,AKE ELSINORE~ CALIFORNIA~ INITIATING AN AMENDMENT TO THE
GENERAL PLAN AND A CHANGE OF ZONE FOR THE AREA LOCATED ON THE
SOUTHWEST CORNER OF ROBB ROAD AND MOUNTAIN STREET.
32. Chanae in Citv Council Meetina Location - Resolution No. 94-
11. (F:44.1)
MOVED BY WASHBURN, SECONDED BY DOMINGUEZ TO ADOPT RESOLUTION NO.
94-11.
Councilwoman Cherveny expressed concern that no fiscal impact
report was provided for this item. She stressed that dollars
were tight when the mid-year budget review was done and she
would like to know how much this move will cost and where it
is budgeted.
Mayor Washburn indicated that he would have no problem
requesting this information.
Councilwoman Cherveny stressed that there is no cost for the
Water District facility and it is comfortable and a state of
the art facility.
Mayor Washburn indicated that he felt relocating downtown was
a positive move, with no intent to say the District facility
is not positive. He further indicated that many thanks are
due the district for the use of this facility. He stressed
that the heart of the Community is the historic downtown. He
noted that the use of the Water District buildinq was never
intended to be a permanent arrangement.
THE FOREGOING MOTION CARRYED BY A VOTE OF 3 TO 2 WITH ALONGI AND
CHERVENY CASTING THE DISSENTING VOTES.
Councilman Alongi indicated that he had no doubt this issue
would pass. He concurred with Mayor Washburn and Mayor Pro
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7Cem Dominguez that the City needs its own meeting hall, but
stressed that ~he present facility is at no cost.
Mayor Washburn noted that this would allow for savings by the
Water District.
Councilman Alongi further stressed that there is not cost for
the Water District facility and suggested that the citizens
were taking second priority in that there is inadequate
parking, etc. Fie expressed concern with taking residents to
an unsafe place to meet. die indicated that this change was
only occurring because one councilmember wants this move and
two others went along with the recommendation. FIe noted that
the City has strived for quality and professionalism and
indicated that now it is not an issuee
fl2ESOLUTYON NO. 94-i1
33.
City Engineer~s office has conducted a survey.
A RESOLUTION OF THE CYTY COUNCYL OF THE CYTY OF LAKE ELSYNORE,
CALIFORNIA, ESTABLISITYNG THE TIME AND PLACE OF REGULAR CIT%
COUNCIL MEETINGSe
Pe~i~ion Reauestina the Ynstallation of a Disabled Person's
Parkina Space at 154 N Main Street, (F:112.1)
City Manager Y+Iolendylc explainecl that there was a request to
evaluate disabled person parking at 154 N. Main Street and the
Mayor Washburn inquired who had requested the s~udy.
e exp ained that 158 of the persons who signed
~k:e petition eaere persons who live in the City of Lalce
Elsinore and staff surveyed the location and prepared a design
sketch. d3owevero observations of ~he use of Disabled Persons
parlcincy spaces in the downtown area show that more spaces
currently exist than are ne2dedo He stated that staff
approached the petition positively, but after careful
observation, feels that it is not advisable.
Public Services Director Tecca stated that he did not have the
name of the person who requested the study, but he did receive
a petition containinq 226 names requestinq an additional
handicap parking space in front of the hair salon at Main and
Peck Street Fi 1 °
1~%ayor FVashburn stated that the land adjacent to the building
is owned by the same person who owns the building and asked if
it was possible for a handicapped persons to park in the lot
adjacent to the building.
Eublic Services Director Tecca explained that a handicapped or
disabled person can park any place, but a handicap parking
place can only be used by handicapped or disabled persons.
Mayor Washburn agaira asked if the persons wanted to park in
the adjacent lot, would they be able to. Mr. Tecca stated
that they coulde
Councilmara Alongi read his comments from ~he minutes o£
January 25, 1994, and pointed out that tfie handicap ramp was
previously discussed for that address and asked why it is
being brought to City Counci~ at this time, Public Services
Director Tecca explained that after the last City Council
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meeting was when this project became controversial and staff
has tried to take an objective position.
Councilman Alongi asked who had made this item controversial.
Councilman Dominguez stated that he had questioned the
project.
Councilman Alongi stated that even if the handicap parking
spaces are not used all the time, it is important to provide
those for disabled persons, He explained that it is not how
often they are used, but rather the convenience of where they
are located. He criticized the design of the location of the
handicap spaces and indicated that it is the responsibility of
the City to provide convenient parking for the handicapped.
He stated that he felt that it is worth the e~ense to provide
a handicapped space for convenience of the handicapped and
disabled. Mr. Alongi questioned the section of the report
which states that the disabled parking spaces do not serve the
majority of the public, to which he stated that handicapped
parking is not there for the majority, but rather the minority
and that is the purpose of those parking spaces.
Public Services Director Tecca explained that all the parking
spaces in the downtown area were reviewed and there is an
excess number of handicap spaces, and there is more demand to
use the regular spaces than the handicap spaces and it would
not be in anyone's best interest to take out two regular
parking spaces to install one handicap space.
Councilman Alongi questioned the advisability of regulating
the parking by setting times.
Councilman Dominguez stated that the City has spent a lot of
time and a lot of money putting the plan together for the
downtown. He pointed out that the shop which brought this
forward is renting and the property is for sale. He pointed
out that there are three handicap spaces within 150 feet and
explained that if the City permits a special space just for
that shop, then other merchants can request the same.
Councilman Winkler asked if there were handicap spots on that
side of the street. Public Services Director Tecca explained
that there are three handicap spaces within a 150 foot radius,
with one directly across the street located at First Trust
Bank; one directly across Peck Street on the opposite corner
and one down the sidewalk on the same block; and access can be
make from that spot and come directly down the sidewalk
without crossing a street.
Mayor Washburn then called on the person who requested to
speak.
Linda Southard, 154 North Main Street, explained that she is
one of the owners of Main Street Hair and they have been
located there for the last thirteen years; and she stated that
she has no knowledge of the buildinq being for sale, She
stated that they are planning on staying in that location and
explained that they did survive the renovation of the downtown
area and noted that 80% of their clients are elderly people.
Ms. Southerd explained that since the renovation the curb is
very high and she has had one lady try to step up and fall
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backwards. She explained that they do not mind loosing a
parking space to provide a handicap space and the distance of
one full block is very difficult in a wheel chair or with a
walker. She stated that the clients of her salon do bring
business into the downtown area.
MOVED BY DOMINGUEZ, SECONDED BY WINKLER TO ACCEPT STAFF
RECOMMENDATYON TO DENY AId ADDITIONAL DISABLED PERSON~S PARK%NG
SPACE.
Councilman Winkler asked Ms. Southerd how far the existing
space is. She explained that it is at the far end of the
block and a long distance for the handicapped and elderly to
walk.
Mayor Washburn aslced how many are handicapped. Ms. Southerd
stated that she did not know, but at the age of the people
~hat are their clients, ~hey do have heart conditions and
other health related problems and have fear for their personal
well-being due to crime. She stated that the curb fieight
makes it very difficult for her clients to get to the shop or
back to their cars.
MOVED BY ALONGI, SECONDED BY CHERVENY A SUBSIDIARY MOTION TO MOVE
THE HANDICAP PARKING SPACE TO THE CENTER OF THE BLOCK TO PROVIDE
EASY ACCESS TO THE ENTIRE BLOCK.
Councilman Alongi explained the access and stated that if the
handicap parking spot was moved, then there would be no loss
o£ parking and it would provide access for both ends of the
block. He stated that ~he cost is still the same. He pointed
out the handicap parking for tfie Cultural Center.
Councilman Dominguez stated that he felt that this action
would open a can of worms, and it would entitle him to request
handicap parking in the middle of the block where his business
is located,
THE FOREGOING SUBSIDIARY MOTION FAILED TO CARRY BY VOTE OF 2 TO 2
WITH DOMINGUEZ AND WASHBURN CASTING THE DISSENTING VOTES AND
WINKLER ABSTAYNYNG,
THE FOI2EGOING MAYN MOTION FAILED BY VOTE OF 2 TO 2 WITH ALONGY AND
CHERVEPJY CAST%NG THE DISSENT%NG VOTES AND WINKLER ABSTAINING.
Mayor Washburn explained that the matter is stalled and will
have to be reconsideredo
Councilman Winkler explained that he has more questions for
staff and will visit the shop in question to get a better idea
of the request and evaluate the situation.
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City Attorney Harper stated that this is not for
Mayor Washburn questioned the reason that this should be on
the Agenda.
PAGE THIRTEEN - CITY COIINCIL MINIITES - FEBRIIARY 8e 1994
reconsideration of the Ordinance or the vote. He explained
that this is for consideration of the subject in general.
Councilman Alongi stated that he requested that this be on the
Agenda due to several things that have recently taken place.
He explained that when he was on DRC there was considerable
discussion regardinq uses. He further explained that he felt
that the DRC should be made up of private citizens that have
businesses in the Bid District. He stated that he felt that
there was no justice for the applicant when he approaches the
DRC and in his opinion the DRC does not have the authority to
restrict or approve a type of business which is approved in
that area; however, if they do want to take that
responsibility, then the Committee needs to look at its
responsibility and act in a responsible manner. Mr. Alongi
used the actions taken for the application of a Karate School
on Main Street as an example, and questioned the process and
stated that if an item is appealed they are approaching the
same board that denied them the first time and this is not a
proper way to handle this.
Mayor Washburn explained that the DRC is intended to manage
the Historic District and the function is to enhance the
Historic Downtown area. He e~cplained that he participates on
the DRC and in review of the Karate School, he would have
voted against it as well. He explained that the proposed
location is not compatible with the surrounding businesses and
that is the function of the DRC. Mr. Washburn explained that
any Mall that is successful, is managed well and the
management seeks compatible businesses.
Councilman Alongi asked for the right to respond.
Mayor Washburn then called on those persons who wished to
speak as follows:
Nancy Olin, The Enchanted Castle, 133 N. Main Street,
explained that she agreed with Councilman Alongi and stated
that she felt that others should participate on the DRC. She
felt that the Karate School would have been compatible with
her business and stated that over half the businesses in the
Downtown area agree that the School would have been
compatible. Mrs. Olin stated that there is a 30% vacancy
factor and the buildings need to be filled for the benefit of
the community.
Patricia Lovitt-Maier, Granny~s Kitchen, 111 W. Graham, stated
that she felt there is no more crime in the Downtown area than
anywhere else. She asked that Council review the Ordinance
and consider the fact that the owners of the buildings cannot
rent to people that they choose. Mrs. Maier pointed out that
the people who own these buildinqs have Redevelopment Agency
loans and need to fill the buildings in order to pay off the
loans. She asked that the Council cease and desist their
control and place private citizens on the Committee.
Claude Winklepleck, Born Again Enterprises, 136 North Main,
noted the progressive movement in the City of Lake Elsinore,
and stated that the Karate School would have been a good
business for the Downtown area. He stated that the parents of
the students would have been retail customers and pointed out
PAGE FOIIRTEEN ~ CITY COIINCIL MINUTES ~ FEBRUA1tY 80 1994
the positive aspects of the Karate School. He stated that he
felt that Councilman Dominguez had already made up his mind to
say no before the consideration and stated ~hat he did not
think that it was a fair actiono
Lynette Davis, 103 North Main Street, owner of the building,
stated her problems regarding renting the building and
explained that she is having problems getting approvals from
the DRC. She further stated that if the Council wants to
dictate the types of business that are acceptable they should
buy all tfie buildinqs and manage ~hem as they see fit, but not
at the current owners expense of finding a tenant. Mrs. Davis
stated that if she wished to place her own business back into
~.he building, she would not be allowed to since she sells
motorcycle parts and that is prohibited. She stated that she
feels that the Committee should not exist. Mrs. Davis stated
that with the loss of her tenant due to the actions of
Councilman Dominguez and the Design Review Committee, she
would request that rier loan payments be put off until she can
find an acceptable tenante
%%ayor Washburn stated that this item is for informational
review onlya but in his opinion the Downtown has made a
radical positive change and what tYae downtown area has gone
through is not easy, but it is good. He stated that the
downtown area will never be what it was twenty years ago, but
at eara be the up-beat and quaint area which can be
economically healthy. Mayor Nlashburn stated that the City
should take a part in assisting tkae owners of the buildings in
the downtown area, and explained that he felt that these
things could be accomplished taithin the guidelines o£
Ordinance No. 952,
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Mayor Pro Tem Dominguez noted the mid-year budget review and
requested an update on the loans.
City Attorney Harper noted that these issues may potentially
involve litigation and would be more appropriate for Closed
Session discussione He advised that generally all are being
pursued by the City Attorney and Staff.
Mayor Pro Tem Dominguez noted that Councilman Alongi had
previously guaranteed the Western Classic Loano Councilman
Alongi indicated that he had not guaranteed the loan and
suggested review of the minutese
Mayor Pro Tem Dominguez inquired how long it would take to
resolve these loanso City Attorney Harper advised that the
Downtown Business Association Y,oan would be resolved in the
next 30 days or legal action will be taken to recover the
funds. He stressed ghat much depends on the potential for
resolution.
Chris FIyland, 1518]. Wavecrest, questioned this interest in
outstanding loans and questions whether Mayor Washburn's loan
had been paid. She suggested that it was election time and
votes were being bought. She clarified that she did not
initiate the petition regarding the TeePee Ranch project.
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POBLIC COMMENTS - NON-AGENDIZED ITEMS
Peter Dawson, 18010 Grand Avenue, representing the Southshore
Homeowners Association, noted that he has been addressing the
Council for over a year regarding an agreement for launch rights.
He further noted that while it is a slow process it has its
rewards. He looked forward to resolution of the access issues. He
thanked the Council for their unanimous decision to prevent the
opening of the Adult Book Store.
CITY MANAGER COMMENTS
City Manager Molendyk reminded Council that arrangements had been
made for a Study Session on February 15, 1994 at 3:00 p.m. for an
overview of the Updated Brown Act and requested that the City
Attorney attend.
CITY COUNCIL COMMENTS
CITY COUNCIL COMMENTS WERE DEFERRED TO THE REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
MEETING.
THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING WAS RECESSED AT 9:15 P.M.
THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING RECONVENED AT 9:39 P.M.
CLOSED SESSION
THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING WAS ADJOURNED TO A JOINT CLOSED SESSION
WITH THE REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY BOARD AT 9:40 P.M. TO DISCUSS MATTERS
OF POTENTIAL LITIGATION.
THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING WAS RECONVENED AT 10:05 P.M. NO ACTION
TAKEN.
MOVED BY WINKLER, SECONDED BY WASHBURN AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS
VOTE TO ADJOURN THE REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING AT 10:06 P.M.
A TEST:
VICKI KA~Y CLERK
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
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WASHBURN, MAYOR
LAKE ELSINORE