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MINUTES
REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
183 N. MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA
TUESDAY, AUGUST 22, 1995
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CALL TO ORDER
The Regular City Council Meeting was called to order by Mayor
Washburn at 7:01 p.m.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Councilman Pape.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT:
COUNCILMEMBERS:
ALONGI, BENDER, PAPE, WASHBURN
ABSENT:
COUNCILMEMBERS:
BRINLEY
Also present were: City Manager Molendyk, Assistant City Manager
Watenpaugh, City Attorney Harper, Administrative Services
Director Boone, community Development Director LeSlie, commmunity
services Director Sapp, Public Services Director Tecca and City
Clerk Kasad.
PRESENTATIONS/CEREMONIALS
a. Presentation - Lake Elsinore West Marina Piratefest.
(F:151.1)
A representative of Lake Elsinore West Marina presented
Mayor Washburn a certificate of Recognition and a Pirate
Flag for his participation in the Piratefest Event.
Joe Crognale, Manager, Lake Elsinore West Marina, commented
that upon his arrival to this community he heard much
negativism. He indicated that he has seen nothing but
cooperation and assistance from all City staff he has dealt
with. He expressed his appreciation to the City Council and
staff for the support he has received. He noted the the
Piratefest Event netted approximately 75-100 cans of food
for H.O.P.E.
Mayor Washburn commented on the event and suggested that
future Mayors should participate in this event and lend
support.
b.
Proclamation - project Care. (F:122.1)
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Mayor Washburn read and presented the Proclamation to
Postmistress Claudia Goldberg. Mrs. Goldberg commented on
the Project Care Program which is a joint effort between the
Post Office and Southern California Edison: and indicated
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CONSENT CALENDAR
The following items were pulled from the Consent Calendar for
further discussion and consideration:
Item Nos. 3, 6, 7, 8 and 9.
MOVED BY ALONGI, SECONDED BY PAPE AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE
OF THOSE PRESENT TO APPROVE THE BALANCE OF THE CONSENT CALENDAR
AS PRESENTED.
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1. The following Minutes were received and ordered filed:
a. Planning commission Meeting - August 2, 1995.
(F:60.3)
b. Design Review Committee Meeting - August 2, 1995.
(F:60.4)
2. Ratified Warrant List for August 15, 1995. (F:12.3)
4. Adopted Resolution No. 95-59 designating stop Sign
Controlled Intersections - Various Locations. (F:162.2)
RESOLUTION NO. 95-59
A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF LAKE
ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA, DESIGNATING THE LOCATION OF CERTAIN
STOP INTERSECTIONS.
5. Approved an Agreement between the city of Lake Elsinore and
the County of Riverside for Administration of County Service
Area (CSA) 152. (F:22.3)
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ITEMS PULLED FROM CONSENT CALENDAR
3. Reiection of Claims Aqainst the city - Pat Lovitt Maier (CL
#95-7) and Lake Elsinore Recreation Area (CL #95-12).
(F:52.2)
Councilman Alongi questioned the Claim of Pat Lovitt Maier
and indicated that he understood this matter had been
resolved; and suggested that it be set aside from this
consideration.
Public Services Director Tecca indicated that the problem
has been identified and will be corrected. City Attorney
Harper clarified the claims process and explained that the
rejection date is helpful in the event of future litigation.
He recommended that the Council deny the claim.
MOVED BY ALONGI, SECONDED BY BENDER AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE
OF THOSE PRESENT TO REJECT THE ABOVE LISTED CLAIMS AND REFER THEM
TO THE CITY'S CLAIMS ADMINISTRATOR FOR HANDLING.
6. city Manaqer Contract Extension. (F:68.1) (X:46.1)
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deems that no annual review is necessary, the overall term
of this aqreement shall be rolled over and remain a three
year aqreement, commencinq on Auqust 1st of each year.
Councilman Alongi stressed the importance of keeping this
review period away from the political arena during election
time.
MOVED BY WASHBURN, SECONDED BY ALONGI AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS
VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO APPROVE THE CITY MANAGER'S CONTRACT
EXTENSION, AMENDED AS RECOMMENDED BY THE CITY ATTORNEY.
7. Change Order No.2 for Illinois street Imnrovements and
Yarborouqh Park Alley Imnrovements.
8. Notice of Comnletion for Illinois street Improvements and
Yarborouqh Park Allev Imnrovements. (F:156.2)
Councilman Alongi stated that the work in this change order
has been done, and questioned if the Council does not
approve it, where does the City go from there. He stated
that change Order No. 2 should have been in line with Change
Order No.1, since the project was opened up and was there;
he questioned how it was missed.
Public Services Director Tecca explained that this is a
typical case of trying to bring a Change Order before the
Council before the work is done. He noted that in this case
the City got an estimate from the contractor on what it
would cost to relocate 50 feet of the water line. He stated
that the estimated amount was brought before Council, was
approved and the contractor was authorized to proceed. He
further explained that when the contractor got into the
ground and started to replace the pipe, he found that it was
too high and that the Water District wanted the pipe pushed
lower to provide protection. Public Services Director Tecca
stated that this is a case where the project was different
than first thought and created an amendment to the original
Change Order.
Councilman Alongi inquired since the City knew the line was
old and that the Water District wanted it replaced, would it
not have been better to dig it up first, even if the City
had to pay for the dig, to ascertain exactly what would need
to be done rather than bringing it to the Council in the
manner of a Change Order. He stated that he felt that the
city might be able to get it done for less if it were done
in that manner, instead of bringing it back over and over
again and adding to the project.
Public Services Director Tecca indicated that was what made
the call so difficult. He explained that it is either a
case of investigating it entirely and putting all the costs
together, and then waiting a week or two to bring it to
Council, and by then the work would be done or in progress.
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Mayor Washburn asked if staff felt The Contractor would
charge the City for such investigation, or if it would be
done by City staff on our time and still cost the City.
Public Services Director Tecca explained that RBF, the
Designer of the project and Elsinore Water District met on
site and pot-holed the site. He indicated that by so doing
the Water District determined that the pipe should be capped
since they do not serve any other sites down the hill, and
remove the portion that is conflicting and that is how the
job was designed. He further explained that when the
Contractor dug up the site, he found that the water came
from Lakeshore Drive, rather than the top of the hill which
is not what the Water bistrict told the Designer and
resulted in the first Change Order and then after the entire
site was dug it was found that there was a need for the
additional two parts to lower the pipe.
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Councilman Pape asked what the consequences would be if the
city were to not approve the Change Order.
city Attorney Harper stated that the contractor has done the
work and if the City does not pay for that, Council can
imagine what the consequences would be.
Councilman Pape stated that he also had a problem with the
Change Order since it is a much greater amount than first
anticipated. He explained that he feels that the
contractors know that Change Orders are an easy way to make
a profit on a project and he stated that there must be a
better way to handle the procedure.
city Attorney Harper stated that a Change Order is for __
additional work, other than what was in the contract and
does not mean that he is making any larger profit than he
would with the original contract. He explained Change
Orders and causes of Change Orders.
Councilman Alongi compared the first and second Change Order
and stated that the need for the work done on the second
Change Order should have been identified when the first
Change Order was done. He stated that the perception is
that the City is not doing it's job when we keep getting
these Change Orders back. He stated that staff should make
sure that the contractor is doing his job properly.
City Attorney Harper stated that this is an engineering call
and the Engineering Department has had enough denied Change
Orders that they take this issue very seriously and they
would not bring these before Council if they were not
warranted.
Mayor Washburn stated that it is too bad that we can not
require Water Districts or other agencies to guarantee their
information in order to avoid this type of situation.
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Public Services Director Tecca stated that the specification
were written by the city's Landscape Architect and the bid
was done on a lump sum principle rather than a unit price
and the sum was paid on the lump sum without an
identification of what was paid for each item, and when it
became necessary to do a change order, which was cutting the
street and putting in a pipe the contractor was able to save
cost in one area and expend additional costs in another
area. He explained that the lump sum bid which was the
bottom line of the savings plus the extra expenses ended up
with a plus of $5,000.
councilman Pape questioned that the extra parts that the
contractor had to purchase exceeded the cost of not having
to dig up the street by $5,700. Public Services Director
Tecca stated that is how he understands it. He explained
that generally when the City has a unit cost a list is done
on the Change Order of all the plus and minus items, but
this project was not set up to be bid on unit cost.
City Manager Molendyk explained that this project was
designed with the understanding that the developer had put
in a 2" water line and it was in reality a 1 1/2" water
line, and in order to save the cost of ripping up the street
it was decided to install the additional valves. He further
explained that $5,000 was considered cheeper than ripping up
the street for the extra 1/2" line.
Councilman Pape stated that it is always better not to rip
up the street since it can never be restored to exactly the
way that it was. He asked if there was a problem with the
developer who did not put in the proper size pipe. Public
Services Director Tecca explained that he did not know why
the developer installed the pipe in the first place since it
is completely outside of the Centex Development and outside
CFD 88-3. He noted that it might have been done in
conjunction with the local sub-division in that area.
MOVED BY PAPE, SECONDED BY BENDER AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE
OF THOSE PRESENT TO APPROVE THE NOTICE OF COMPLETION FOR LAKE
STREET MEDIAN LANDSCAPE.
APPEAL
21. Appeal of Commercial proiect 95-1 (Jack-in-the-Box).
(F:21.1)
Mayor Washburn noted the recommendation that this item be
withdrawn. City Manager Molendyk concurred, noting that
this Appeal has been carried on agendas for quite some time.
MOVED BY ALONGI, SECONDED BY BENDER AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE
OF THOSE PRESENT TO WITHDRAW THIS ITEM FROM THE AGENDA.
BUSINESS ITEMS
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UPON THE FOLLOWING ROLL CALL VOTE:
AYES:
COUNCILHEHBERS:
ALONGI, BENDER, PAPE, WASHBURN
NOES:
COUNCILHEHBERS:
NONE
ABSENT:
COUNCILHEHBERS:
BRINLEY
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ABSTAIN:
COUNCILHEHBERS:
NONE
32. Boat Launch Construction Manaqement. (F:92.5)
city Manager Molendyk explained that the city was awarded an
$800,000 grant, by the California Department of Boating and
Waterways, to construct a new pUblic boat launch facility on
the Lake. He further explained that by policy they allow
only a percentage of the grant to be used for contract
management and consultant fees to be changed against a
project. He noted that this resulted in an overage on this
part of the budget and staff recommends that $76,000 be
appropriated from the Park Development Funds, since this is
a Park and Recreation area.
Ron Noble, Noble Consultants, gave an overview of the
project and explained the change in the parking and how the
ramp will function in high and low water situations.
city Manager Molendyk stated that the city has received all
necessary permits from other agencies and that it is still
scheduled to be open next spring.
Councilman Alongi asked if the $76,000 being taken from the
Park Development Fund is the same fund used for construction --
of parks. Assistant City Manager Watenpaugh confirmed.
Councilman Alongi asked if the Lake Fund would have funds
for this. Assistant city Manager Watenpaugh stated that the
Lake Operations Fund is for operations and there is enough
to fund the rest of the season. Councilman Alongi asked if
the Park Fund will be repaid. Assistant City Manager
Watenpaugh stated that the intent is that the Beaches and
Parks are part of the park system and the funds are deemed
appropriate for this use. Councilman Alongi stated that he
does not feel that the Launch Ramp benefits the whole
community and the parks do. He explained that he does not
mind taking money from the Fund if there are plans to put it
back; however to take it out and use it for this purpose and
not put it back he finds unacceptable and not fair to the
whole community.
Councilman Bender asked if the 15 week construction period
is reasonable. Mr. Noble stated that in the contract
documents there will be a time limit given to construct the
project. He stated that the Management fees would not
necessarily increase. Councilman Bender stated that he does
feel that this will benefit all the citizens of the
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TO APPROVE THE PROPOSAL WITH NOBLE CONSULTANTS FOR CONSTRUCTION
MANAGEMENT OF THE BOAT LAUNCH FACILITY AND APPROPRIATE THE
$76,900 FROM THE PARK DEVELOPMENT FUND TO FINANCE THE SERVICES.
33. Appointment of Planninq Commissioner. (F:60.2)
Mayor Washburn noted that there are still several
applications on file from previous recruitments from which
he has chosen a new Planning Commissioner. He recommended
the appointment of Daniel Allenbach to fill the unexpired
term of Richard Bullard.
MOVED BY WASHBURN, SECONDED BY PAPE AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE
OF THOSE PRESENT TO APPOINT DANIEL ALLENBACH FOR AN UNEXPIRED
TERM CONTINUING UNTIL JUNE 30, 1996.
THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING WAS RECESSED AT 7:38 P.M.
THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING RECONVENED AT 7:45 P.M.
PUBLIC COMMENTS - NON-AGENDIZED ITEMS
Mariana Mohylyn, 305 W. Sumner, announced her write-in candidacy
for the November Election and suggested that the City consider a
full-time Mayor with increased compensation.
CITY MANAGER COMMENTS
City Manager Molendyk commented on the following:
1) Noted the nationally televised Silver Bullets Game at
the Diamond Stadium on Saturday, August 19th. He
advised that there were approximately 5,300 in
attendance.
2) Advised that the City has been contacted by the newly
formed United Baseball League regarding a proposal for
use of the Diamond and McVicker Park as spring Training
camps for the Los Angeles team.
CITY COUNCIL COMMENTS
Mayor Pro Tem Bender commented on the following:
1) Thanked the Golden Spectrum representatives for the
photographs they gave him of the Chili Cook-off
activities.
2) Applauded the use of the Diamond by the Silver Bullets
and supported the possible use by the United Baseball
League.
Councilman Pape commented on the following:
1) Congratulated Councilwoman Brinley on her new
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4) Requested that staff bring the Council information on
current standards for apartment complexes, particularly
the larger complexes. He specifically requested
information of security, lighting, off-street parking,
etc.
5)
He suggested that Council consider scheduling
discussion of curfew laws. He stressed that they need
to be tough enough for them to be enforceable. He felt
this would be particularly helpful in the reduction of
grafitti. He also suggested use of the Community
Center as a central place to take curfew violators
until their parents retrieve them.
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Councilman Alongi commented on the following:
1) Commented that many of the people doing grafitti are
adults.
2) Indicated that he will address the sales tax issue on
his next program.
3) Indicated that the boat launch/Lake is not non-profit.
He further indicated that it should not be subsidized
by park fees. He stressed that only select individuals
can use the boat launch. He further stressed that the
Lake needs to be self-sufficient.
4) Expressed surprise with the Council action on low-
income housing. He indicated that Mr. Bender's
comments were contrary to his previous comments.
5)
Announced that he would be meeting with a District
Attorney's investigator stockwell to discuss the
Redevelopment Agency statutes.
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Mayor Washburn commented on the following:
1) Expressed pride in the program aired on Prime Ticket,
and indicated that it was a nice representation of the
community. He stressed that this type of event is good
for the recreation focus.
2) stressed that the Lake is a source of tourism and
serves as a profit center. He further stressed that it
can generate a profit and generate services for the
community. He indicated that he has supported anything
having to do with Lake water quality or services.
CLOSED SESSION
a. Lake Elsinore Associates vs. city - Case #200767.
b. Palmer vs. City - Case #267394.