HomeMy WebLinkAbout02-14-1995 City Council Minutes
MINUTES
REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
183 NORTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA
TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 14, 1995
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CALL TO ORDER
The Regular city Council Meeting was called to order by Mayor
Washburn at 7:02 p.m.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Channing Corral & Kyle
Constantine, representing Pack 30, Machado Elementary School.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT:
COUNCILMEMBERS: ALONGI, BENDER, BRINLEY, PAPE,
WASHBURN
ABSENT:
COUNCILMEMBERS: NONE
Also present were: City Manager Molendyk, Assistant City Manager
Rogers, City Attorney Harper, City Planner Leslie, Chief Building
Official Russell, Community Services Director Sapp, Public Services
Director Tecca, Manager of Special Projects Watenpaugh,and city
Clerk Kasad.
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PRESENTATIONS/CEREMONIALS
Mayor Washburn noted the death of Raymond Gerlock and wished his
family sincere condolences. He also noted the many school and
community activities in which Raymond participated.
a. Presentation - Machado Elementarv School. (F:142.1)
City Manager Molendyk noted the presence of Machado Elementary
School students in the audience and in the viewing audience
for this meeting. He explained that the Council has
established a goal of fighting crime in the Community, and
noted the recent crime sweeps and the increased Sheriff's
Department staffing to support this effort. He advised that
notification has been received that the City will receive
funding for four additional officers through the National
Crime Bill.
Mr. Molendyk also noted the N.A.P.A. program in the area of
Machado Elementary School and indicated that the cooperation
of 23 agencies will continue in this area, as well as other
neighborhoods. He commented on the involvement of Machado
Elementary School and its staff and students in the acti vi ties
of the N.A.P.A. program. He then introduced Mary Ellen Lewis,
Principal of Machado Elementary School.
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students from Machado presented copies of the book to Deputy
Chief Randall Yankee, Sheriff Larry smith (Deputy Chief Yankee
received on his behalf), and Mayor Washburn. Deputy Chief
Yankee noted that Sheriff Larry smith was not able to attend
this meeting, as he was meeting with President Clinton and the
San Bernardino County Sheriff. He stressed that Sheriff
smith would have preferred to attend this meeting.
Mayor Washburn read a letter from Congressman Calvert,
commending Machado for their efforts and presented
certificates of Appreciation to Mary Ellen Lewis and Teacher __ _
Tina Noriega, who coordinated the. alphabet book with the
students. He thanked the students and staff of Machado for
their efforts and commended them for a job well done.
c. Presentation - captain Randall Yankee. (F:127.2)
Mayor Washburn commented on the accomplishments of Captain
Randall Yankee during his duty in Lake Elsinore and noted the
benefit to the citizens of Lake Elsinore. He presented
Captain Yankee with a City Tile Plague and thanked him for his
efforts in the community.
captain Yankee commented that it was a pleasure to serve the
city of Lake Elsinore and assured the Council that the efforts
will continue under Captain Boyd. He reiterated that Sheriff
Smith really wanted to attend this meeting, but needed to
attend another.
Mayor Washburn noted that Captain Yankee's son recently was
granted entrance to West Point and congratulated him.
b. Proclamation - Enqineer's Week. (F:120.1)
Mayor Washburn read and presented the Engineer's Week __
proclamation to Public Services Director Tecca and Engineering
Manager O'Donnell. He encouraged students to pursue this area
of education and noted the importance of engineering. Public
Services Director Tecca thanked the Council for the
Proclamation and concurred that engineering is an exciting
field. He noted the benefit of seeing the results of your
work.
PUBLIC COMMENTS - AGENDIZED ITEMS
Requests were received to address the following items and deferred
to those discussions:
Item Nos. 21, 22 and 33.
CONSENT CALENDAR
The following items were pulled from the Consent Calendar for
further discussion and consideration:
Item Nos. 3, 5, 7, 11.
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b. Special Joint city Council/Redevelopment Agency Meeting
with Assemblyman Thompson - January 18, 1995.
c. Regular City Council Meeting - January 24, 1995.
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d.
City Council Study Session - January 31, 1995.
2. Received and ordered filed the Building Activity Report for
January, 1995. (F:32.2)
4. Received and ordered filed the Investment Report for December
31, 1994. (F:12.5)
6. Rejected and referred to Claims Administrator for handling the
Claim Against the City submitted by Nancy Vasquez (CL #95-2).
(F:52.2)
8. Adopted Resolution No. 95-6, Adopting Sheriff's Department
Fees. (F: 127.2)
RESOLUTION NO. 95-6
A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE ADOPTING A SCHEDULB
OF FEES FOR SERVICES PROVIDED BY THE RIVERSIDB COUNTY
SHERIFF'S DEPARTMENT.
9. Adopted Resolution No. 95-7, Supporting continued Military
Operations at Southern California Facilities. (F:96.1)
RESOLUTION NO. 95-7
A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF LAKB BLSINORB
SUPPORTING THE CONTINUED OPERATIONS OF THE LONG BEACH NAVAL
SHIPYARD AND OTHER SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA MILITARY FACILITIES.
10. Approved 21st Year Community Development Grant Application to
the County of Riverside, in the amount of $41,857 to further
Senior Center Improvements and directed staff to submit said
applications to the County by the deadline of February 17,
1995. (F:84.2)
12. Approved the fOllowing Cost Recoveries for Abatement and
authorized the placement of special liens against the annual
tax bill through the Riverside County Tax Collectors Office:
(F:32.4)
a. 10150 Mountain View - Ray Schneider - $3,223.64
b. 131 East Graham - Oscar/Frank Montelongo - $434.20.
c. 308 North Langstaff - Joseph Tringale - $434.20.
d. 103 West Flint - Nancy Collier - $847.25.
e. 823 Park Way - Jeannette McKerrihan - $684.20.
f. 3620 Nashland - Consolidated Holdings - $579.85.
g. 3581 Nashland - Hogar Feliz Inc. - $659.98.
h. 3580 Nashland - Sylvia Peretz - $1134.15.
i. 67 Elm Street - Elnora Deyampert - $2424.20.
j. 3581 Nashland - Hogar Feliz Inc. - $809.20
k. 15075 Heather - Robert & Susan Nagel - $1042.60.
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on this list which involve trash. He questioned whether
adequate trash collection was occurring. Chief Building
Official Russell indicated that trash tends to accumulate on
va~ant list and abandoned properties throughout the City. He
stressed the amount of illegal dumping and explained that the
only COUrse of action is to address the property owners.
Councilman Alongi inquired whether it had been established
that trash was to be pick-up whether paid or not. Mr. Russell
indicated that this is true for residential properties, but
not for commercial properties. He clarified that housing
units over three units are considered commercial projects by
CR & R. Councilman Alongi suggested that when there are -
problems with paYment on this type of property the city should
have the trash picked up and bill the owner. Mr. Russell
stressed the policy of the trash collector that if commercial
users to not pay the bill, their trash is not collected.
MOVED BY ALONGI, SECONDED BY PAPE AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE TO
RECEIVE AND ORDER FILED THE CODE ENFORCEMENT ACTIVITY REPORT FOR
JANUARY, 1995.
5. Warrant List - January 31. 1995. (F:12.3)
Councilman Alongi indicated that he had questions on this
item, however in the absence of Administrative Services
Director Boone, he would pass on them.
MOVED BY ALONGI, SECONDED BY PAPE AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE TO
RATIFY THE WARRANT LIST FOR JANUARY 31, 1995.
7. Resolution of Intention to Amend Section 17.20.040 & 17.20.120
(Aqricultural Residential DeveloDment Standards) Zone Code
Amendment 95-1 - Resolution No. 95-5. (F:172.2)
Councilman Alongi inquired whether this item will come back to
the Council following the Planning Commission consideration. __
Staff confirmed that it will.
MOVED BY ALONGI, SECONDED BY BRINLEY AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE
TO ADOPT RESOLUTION NO. 95-5.
RESOLUTION NO. 95-5
A RESOLUTION OF INTENTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA, INITIATING AN AMENDMENT TO SECTION
17.20.040 AND 17.20.120 OF THE ZONING CODE (TYPE AND NUMBER OF
ANIMALS PERMITTED WITHIN THE R-A AGRICULTURAL RESIDENTIAL
ZONING DISTRICT) (ZCA 95-1)
11. AcceDtance of ReDresentation Riverside Countv Habitat
Conservation Aqency Litigation. (F:76.3) (X:52.1)
Councilman Alongi requested and explanation of this item from
the City Attorney. City Attorney Harper explained that this
lawsuit was filed by Thomas Morger, et al. against the
Ri verside County Habitat Conservation Agency. He further
explained that the city is a member of the Conservation Agency
which predominant!~ a?d!~~s~s the regulations governing the
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was some potential. Mr. Alongi inquired whet;her participation
by the city is mandatory. 'Mayor Washburn indicated that while
it was not mandatory, the cities felt it would be a better
forum to expedite the resolution of these issues. Mr. Harper
further commented that while it is not mandatory, it would
have been extremely diff icul t to proceed wi th development
without addressing the habitat issues. He noted a previous
lawsuit brought against the City by Pardee Construction to
gain the needed allocations to proceed with development. He
further noted that the economic situation has made that a less
urgent issue. He also noted that if the Council desires the
City Attorney could represent the city, but would more or less
go along for the ride, and incur substantial fees. Mayor
Washburn commented that Best, Best and Krieger has been
working with the Conservation Agency Board for quite some
time. Councilman Alongi indicated that he did not have a
problem with the representation, but expressed concern for the
potential liability.
MOVED BY ALONGI, SECONDED BY WASHBURN TO ACCEPT THE OFFER OF LEGAL
REPRESENTATION FROM BEST, BEST , KRIEGER.
Mayor Washburn noted that in the last 60 days the R.C.H.C.A.
has finalized the 10.a. plan. He noted that it is being
reviewed with emphasis that if approved, the Board will work
more toward a multi-species program, rather than the
predominant K-Rat approach.
THE FOREGOING MOTION CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
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21. Zone Chanae 94-2 Revised - A Chanae of Zone for Territory
Generallv located South of Lash Avenue: North of Lincoln
Street: West of Machado Street and East of Dryden Street.
Clement Street and the Termini of Ziealinde Drive. Le Gaye
Street and st. pierre Lane - Ordinance No. 991. (F:172.2)
ci ty Planner Leslie gave an overview of the proposed Zone
Change. He pointed out the various streets that the Planning
Commission reaffirmed and noted the one change that they
recommended to City Council involves the properties between
Lakeshore and Lash on one side of the street for which they
suggest R-1 instead of R-2 zoning.
Mayor Washburn opened the Public Hearing at 7:45 p.m. and
called upon those persons who made a request to speak.
city Clerk Kasad stated that there were two pieces of
correspondence; one from Mr. Beebe and one from James Eriser
addressing portions of the zoning.
Cappy Carpenter, representing the owner of the property on the
northwest corner of Machado and Lakeshore Drive. She
explained that they were originally promised that the City
would honor their C-1 zoning and then during the recent
Planning Commission meeting, it was discussed that they would
downzon~ the property to offices, but did decide to honor the
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Gary Peebley, owner of Machado storage, explained that he his
only concern is that his property remain zoned C-1.
Pam Eriser, 15049 Larson Road, asked that her property be
zoned R-A instead of R-1. She pointed out her property on the
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map and stated that some of her nel.ghbors have subml. tted
letters requesting that their property be zoned R-A. She
stated that a grandfather clause would not be enough
protection for their property and they wish to continue the
use of their property as it was prior to the annexation. She
read letters from Jerry McNap, Maria Venegas and Ford Beebe
requesting R-A zoning for their properties. __
Mayor Washburn asked if there were any other persons who
wished to speak on the matter. Hearing no one the public
hearing was closed at 7:52 p.m.
Mayor Washburn asked why the Planning Commission and staff
felt that the R-1 should stay that way since it is sandwiches
between two R-A zones. City Planner Leslie noted that this is
the first time that' this issue has been brought forward and
the reason staff recommended that action to the Planning
Commission is because the General Plan designation does allow
the R-1 and it was assumed that the property owners in the
area would prefer the zoning that was most consistent with the
General Plan designation.
Councilman Alongi asked if the property owners would tell him
why they would like to have R-A instead of R-1 zoning. Pam
Eriser stated that they had purchased the property with the
intent of having horses and raising a few chickens. She
explained that Mr. Beebe grows crops on his land and has
raised a pig for personal use. She stated that if the land is
not in current use for horses and is not in R-A use for a
period of six months, then the property will loose the right
to be used in an R-A manner and would revert to R-1. She __
stated that they wish to retain the choice of having horses
and a few livestock if they choose and not loose that right.
Mayor Pro Tem Bender asked if this was originally zoned R-1
when it was in the County. City Planner Leslie stated that
the zoning as staff proposed it is fairly similar to what the
County had it zoned. Mayor Pro Tem Bender stated that he has
reviewed the testimony from the pUblic at Planning Commission
level and stated that most of the proponents from the R-A want
to have horses and the R-1 to preclude that, but the property
owners can have a horse on 1/2 acre in the R-1, and could be
addressed in that manner. He explained that the potential
problem could be that there would be farms with pigs and cows
in the middle of the City surrounded by R-1 to the north,
south, east and west. Mayor Pro Tem Bender stated that the
current permitted use of animals allows up to 10 cows, pigs or
goats or 60 chickens on a half acre lot and there are some
parcels that are six acres and would cause a problem with
conformity. He explained that his concern is that an R-A
zoning would potentially allow large animal farms in the
middle of a very large, growing residential area. He noted
that the C-1 areas are pretty much the same as when the City
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He explained that only the Council Action should be pertinent
to this decision. Mayor Pro Tem Bender questioned the zoning
displayed on the map and clarified the different types of
uses. City Planner Leslie explained the zoning and the use of
horse trails and how this relates to the annexation.
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Councilman Pape stated that he feels that there are four
issues that the Council is dealing with. He pointed out that
the storage units are a legal non-conforming use and cannot be
expanded and therefore will just be there. Gary Peebley
explained that when this issue was discussed with LAFCO as
well as the question of horses on property, the whole
community was present and they were led to believe that the
property would remain the same as prior to the annexation. He
noted that the statement that if the promises made at LAFCO
are not binding, then there should be a City councilperson
present to represent what the city's intent is. Mr. Peebley
explained that they were promised things by the City and now
the people are told that it is not binding. He stated that
his main concern is to have control of his property without
having a Specific Plan imposed on him, which would then cost
a great deal of money to conform to the Specific Plan. He
stated that if it was not settled at the time of annexation as
they were led to believe, then they would have taken steps to
stop the annexation and the effects it would have upon the
property owners.
Councilman Pape stated that he does not have a problem with
the C-l area. He commented that the person who wished to have
R-A in order to have a Christmas tree farm does not cause a
problem, but the issue is the quantities of animals and this
will be addressed at a future public hearing by Council.
Therefore if they want to have an R-A zone he does not have a
problem with that either. He questioned the section on
Lakeshore Drive which is R-l versus R-2 and asked what was
currently on the property or if it is all vacant. ci ty
Planner Leslie stated that the current use is predominantly
single family homes. Councilman Pape asked why the City would
want to change single family homes to R-2. City Planner
Leslie stated that there is a significant amount of vacant
property and the reason that staff recommended R-2 is in case
of development of vacant parcels or redevelopment of some of
the parcels that have existing single family homes on them.
He explained that staff felt that through good design of a
multi-family project the City could limit the number of
driveways which would be preferred on Lakeshore Drive.
Councilman Pape questioned the increase in traffic with multi-
family dwelling units. city Planner Leslie explained that
there would be greater density and traffic would increase, but
the key thing is the number of driveways as opposed to the
number of cars using the driveways. Councilman Pape pointed
out his concern regarding the parcel which is C-l versus C-O.
He stated that he does not want to see a strip shopping center
and to have the ability to make sure what type of business
would go into that area, he suggested that it would be more
appropriate to see a professional building in that area.
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Councilman Alongi stated that the gentleman who owns the
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He explained that the property annexed from the County, as in
this case is R-A, and the people invest in the property
because it is the style of life that they wish to have it
should be honored since there are zoning requirements that
will protect the R-1 residents. He feels that it is not the
City's job to play "Big Brother" and tell people what they
want. He stressed that it is Council's job to meet a happy
medium between the development of this community the
lifestyles the residents choose, which vary.
Hella Merrill explained that she is the one that owns the
property next to the storage units and that she sold the _
storage units to the Peebley's in 1989 with the promise that
they could purchase the additional acreage on Machado street.
She further explained that the master plan was for the storage
uni ts to go from corner to corner, which would take the
traffic from Lakeshore and move it to Machado. Ms. Merrill
explained that Mr. Peebley is currently in escrow and has
started to develop the additional acreage, and it would place
her in a difficult position if the Council does not allow
consistent zoning which existed prior to the annexation.
Mayor Washburn clarified the fact that the parcels that she
owns adjoin with the parcels owned by Mr. Peebley and had her
point out her parcels on the map.
Councilwoman Brinley asked if there was any benefit to
"grandfathering" these parcels into the city. She stated that
it would remain in current use until the time of sale and then
would conform. City Planner Leslie stated that the Code
provides for existing uses to continue on a legal
nonconforming basis. He explained that there should be no
mix-match of C-1 and c-o. She noted that there could be
problems in the future with this area if it is not addressed.
Mayor Washburn noted that the real estate west of Zieglinde or
the RIA section, are larger lots. He explained that some of _
the concerns the residents had some years ago were that they
wanted to have their horses and that they could not sell their
house and tell the new buyer that they couldn't have their
horses because they would have to go to the City and get a
C. U. P. to keep the horses there. He further explained that he
and Councilman Pape had talked to the property owners and
stated that they do not have a problem with them having horses
or continuing to have horses on their property and suggested
that the zoning be switched to allow for that use so they
would not have to obtain a C.U.P. Mayor Washburn stated that
he supports the R-A zoning in that section since there are
larger lots and there is a trail behind th~ property which
makes it an ideal situation. He stated that if the section
above that area which is R-1 would like to be R-A he would
have no problem with that change. Mayor Washburn stated that
his strongest concern was with the R-2 zoning and he felt that
it should be R-1. He explained that the tier of lots and a
few homes that go along Lakeshore Drive from Machado to beyond
Hursh Street should be R-2 and does not feel that it would be
beneficial to the neighborhood. He further explained that he
felt that there should be R-l along that whole tier. He noted
the traffic circulation problems which R-2 would create and
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Mayor. Pro Tem Bender stated that obligations, verbally by
individuals, no matter who they represent are not binding. He
explained that it is no different than a Congressman coming to
the area and saying that the area will receive a lot of
things, but it doesn't mean that it will pass Congress or that
the issue will not be vetoed. He reiterated that if the C-1
area requested was what it was before, then it has merit on
its own, the distinction that Mr. Pape was drawing in regards
to the storage shed property is a separate issue. He
explained that the storage sheds are a non-conforming use that
was granted by the County for that specific property, however
this does not extend to whether the owner wishes to acquire
more property and expand the non-conforming use. He noted
that there is a difference between what exists and what should
be done with vacant land. Mayor Pro Tem Bender stated that he
agreed with the comments regarding the R-2 zoning along
Lakeshore that are contiguous to R-1 on Hursh, Clement and
Wilson to leave them R-1. He stated that he did not have a
problem with C-1 on Lakeshore. He explained that he did have
a problem with the R-1's being changed to RIA and animal uses.
He noted that it could be considered a problem and he does
have a problem with the current R-A zoning that allows 10 cows
or 10 pigs, or 10 sheep, or 10 goats on a 2 1/2 acre lot.
Mayor Pro Tem Bender stated that until that is changed he
feels the Council would be moving a little too fast to allow
R-A to protect the potential for horses.
Mayor Washburn stated that the Council could approve the
ordinance on a first reading and then hold the ordinance until
the entire Council is happy with the uses in the R-A Zone. He
suggested that the R-A zoning criteria can be changed and both
issues can be brought forward at the same time, or the item
can be continued.
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Councilman Alongi pointed out the reasons residents attend
LAFCO hearings and why they concurred with the annexation. He
noted that the residents thought that the Council would honor
the zoning. He explained that when the storage sheds were
built it was not a non-conforming use, it was a conforming use
and Mr. Peebley agreed to the annexation because he was told
that his zoning would remain the same and the city would honor
that. He stated that he felt that to change it now would be
wrong.
Councilman Pape asked if when the storage shed property was
annexed into the City, the county had established that the
property was already legal non-conforming use. City Planner
Leslie stated that he does not know what the County had set as
zoning on this property. Councilman Pape asked if at this
point any adjoining property would require a special
permitting process to put up any additional storage units.
City Planner Leslie stated that it would take a special permit
under the C-1 or c-o zoning since only the City Council can
allow a non-conforming use. Councilman Pape stated that it
does not matter whether the zoning is C-1 or C-O, they will
still have to come before Council to erect more storage
facilities.
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Councilwoman Brin~ey stated that she concurred with the idea
of approving this:matter~nd holding it until the uses of the
R-A zoning can be reviewed and changed if necessary prior to
a second reading.
Mayor Washburn stated that Mayor Pro Tem Bender made a good
point regarding farm animals in the middle of a residential
area and the problems which could occur.
Mr. Peebley stated that he has a very clean and neat business
and that it is run very clean and neat. He noted that there
is not one vacancy in his facility since it is conforming to __
the needs the people in the area. He explained that there is
a need for storage in that area and the people are using it
and in his view that does constitute conforming use. Mr.
Peebley stated that when he went to LAFCO it was his main
concern that they did not get into something like this due to
changes in Council, and he was promised that his use would
remain the same.
Councilwoman Brinley stated that she would still like to go
over the R-A zoning and expressed her understanding of the
feelings of the persons who went to LAFCO.
Mayor Pro Tem Bender stated that his remarks were not intended
to offend, but he wished to stress the fact that he sought to
follow the rules. He asked if the Council changed the R-A
zoning, would the city then have to notice everyone that is
not in conformance with the requirements of the new R-A. City
Planner Leslie stated that a change in the zoning code would
be published as a Notice of Public Hearing in the newspaper
and that would be the only notice required. He pointed out
that Item #7 of this Consent Calendar does direct staff to
look into the requirements of the R-A zone and staff will be
bringing back an item for Council review. Mayor Pro Tem
Bender asked if this particular area could have an equestrian __
zone which would eliminate the need to change the R-A zoning.
City Planner Leslie explained that in an update of the entire
zoning code, the ci ty is looking to rename some of the
districts. He noted that the agricultural district could be
changed to residential equestrian. He pointed out that the
intent to use animals for commercial purposes and the growing
of crops for commercial purposes is not presently allowed in
the R-A zone and commercial agricultural purposes are only
allowed by C.U.P. in the R-A zone. He stated that what they
will be looking at in regard to the proposed change of the
standards of the R-A zone is reviewing the number and type of
animals that are allowed and seeing if that is appropriate or
not. Mayor Pro Tem Bender asked if the City was getting ahead
of itself in reviewing this zone change prior to making a
decision on the R-A. He suggested that they might consider
doing only half of this zoning and leave the other until the
R-A zoning can be clarified.
Mayor Washburn asked if this project could be split. City
Attorney Harper stated that if they choose to change part of
the property and leave the other as it is, then yes that can
be done. Mayor Washburn ~~ked if the section from Broadway to
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Counpilwoman Brinley requested clarification that if items are
not ~ncluded in the first reading they cannot be placed in the
second reading. City Attorney Harper confirmed.
Councilman Pape stated that this item can be heard at the same
time Item No. 7 is discussed.
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Mayor Washburn made note of the concerns which have been
discussed as follows: Mr. peebley's property; zoning; and the
corner of Lakeshore Drive and Machado being c-o instead of C-
1. He pointed out that he has heard no conflict on the R-1 to
R-A or any other issues.
Councilman Alongi stated that the question is in regard to the
commercial property, and because it was there during the
annexation whether there was anything in writing or not, and
the question of whether the Council should honor the
agreements made by previous Councils. He explained that he
objected to forcing a property owner who had a certain use
prior to annexation being forced to now come to Council for
approval and pay large fees for C.U.P.'s and Variances. He
noted that the City needs to protect that property owner's
investment and give him the option to expand his property or
not. Councilman Alongi stated that the R-1 to R-A is not in
question, but rather the commercial property portion of the
ordinance.
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Councilman Pape stated that he did not have much of a problem
with the adjoining property next to the storage area remaining
C-1 since they will still have to go through the process and
they retain the right to do so.
Councilman Alongi stated that a change could be done through
the ordinance to allow Mr. Peebley to proceed.
Mayor Washburn stated that he did not feel that it should be
done through this ordinance, but can be addressed when it
comes before Council again.
Councilman Alongi stated that Mr. Peebley brought his business
to Lake Elsinore and has kept it neat and clean, just as
Council would wish for all businesses and he felt that Council
should make the effort to address his concerns. He explained
that Council should find a way to protect his particular
property at this time.
Councilman Pape asked if this could be done tonight. City
Attorney Harper stated that the only thing that could be done
is to change Mr. peebley's property and the adjoining property
to a zone that would not require a Conditional Use Permit,
which would be Industrial.
Mayor Washburn stated that there are not a large number of
great concerns regarding most of the ordinance.
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MOVBD BY BBNDBR THAT FROM BROADWAY AND UP BBCOMB R-2; THB CORNBR OF
LAKBSHORB AND MACHADO BB C-1; AT THB BND OF THB HAMMBRHEAD TO THB
RIGHT BB R-l; THB FOUR PARCELS ALONG LAKBSHORB C-l; THB BNTIRB TOP
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1; THE ENTIRE TOP OF THE HAMMERHEAD BE R-A; AND THE PART SOUTH OF
BROADWAY TO BE R-A WITH THE PROVISO THAT THIS COME BACK AT THE SAME
TIME THE COUNCIL HEARS ITEM NO. 7 OF THIS AGENDA, TO ASCERTAIII HOW
R-A ZONING IS DEFINED PRIOR TO A SECOND READING OF THIS ORDINANCE,
FURTHER TO ADOPT ORDINANCE NO. 991 UPON FIRST READING, BASED 011 THB
FOLLOWING FINDINGS:
City Attorney Harper stated that the other alternative that
Council may wish to consider is to continue the public
hearing. He explained that they would not be able to receive
any additional input on the appropriate zoning for any of the
issues. He noted that all they could do is adopt a second __
reading and not make any other considerations. City Attorney
Harper explained that by continuing this item they can make
alterations to the Ordinance and do a first reading at that
time.
Mayor Washburn asked if the motion included all of the items
that Mayor Pro Tem Bender outlined. councilman Pape confirmed
that it did.
THE FOREGOING MOTION WAS APPROVED BY THE FOLLOWING ROLL CALL VOTB:
ORDINANCE NO. 991
AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF LAKB ELSINORB,
CALIFORNIA, ESTABLISHING ZONING FOR 152 ACRES GENERALLY
LOCATED SOUTH OF LASH AVENUE, NORTH OF LINCOLN STREET, WEST OF
MACHADO STREET, EAST OF DRYDEN STREET, CLEMENT STREET AND THB
TERMINI OF ZIEGLINDE DRIVE, LE GAYE STREET AND ST. PIERRB LANB
(COMMONLY REFERRED TO AS THE "HAMMERHEAD" AREA), ZONE CHANGE
94-2 (REVISED: CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE.
UPON THE FOLLOWING ROLL CALL VOTE:
AYES:
COUNCILHEHBERS: ALONGI, BENDER, BRINLEY, PAPE,
WASHBURN
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NOES:
COUNCILHEHBERS: NONE
ABSENT:
COUNCILHEHBERS: NONE
ABSTAIN:
COUNCILHEHBERS: NONE
Findinqs
1. The proposed zone change will not be: a) detrimental to
the health, safety, comfort or general welfare of the
persons residing or working within the neighborhood of
the proposed amendment or within the City, or b)
injurious to property of improvements in the neighborhood
or within the city.
2. The proposed action will be consistent with the Goals,
Objectives and Policies of the General Plan and the
standards established in the Municipal Code.
3. This project will not have a significant impact on the
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grew out of the previous consideration of the Hammerhead Zone
Change. He stated that the Planning Commission considered
this proposed zoning from its current R-1 to an R-A zoning.
Planning Commission recommended that the zone be changed to an
R-A, however one change that Planning Commission made was to
recommend that Council initiate a proposed zone code amendment
changing the regulations addressing the type and number of
animals allowed. City Planner Leslie stated that he has a map
to address the proposed zone changes.
ci ty Clerk Kasad reported that there were three pieces of
correspondence regarding Zone Change 94-3.
Mayor Washburn opened the public hearing at 8:55 p.m. and
asked those persons requesting to speak to come forward.
The following persons spoke:
Harley Webb, 15040 Larson Road, explained that he has owned
his property since 1975 and it was zoned R-1 when it was in
the county, and advised that he is opposed to any changes to
the zoning now that it is in the city. He stated that he does
not want to see a bunch of animals around his home and have it
smelling like Norco. Mr. Webb stated that he has had his home
up for sale three times and explained that no one has asked if
his property is zoned for horses.
Rose Tompkins, 15030 Larson Road, read a letter from the
property owners on Larson Road asking that Council deny Zone
Change 94-3. The letter was from the following persons: Mr.
and Mrs. Lee Tompkins; Francis and Marian Foley; Jim Foley;
Mr. and Mrs. Harley Webb; Mr. Phil Williams; Mr. and Mrs.
Brian stewart; and Mr. Larry Vandervort.
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Mayor Washburn asked if anyone else would like to speak on the
matter. The following persons spoke:
Jim Eriser, 15049 Larson Road, spoke in favor of the Zone
Change 94-3, and stated that there is an enhanced potential
for sale of property for different buyers, as well as the
minimum lot side preserving the country atmosphere, the
minimum size of the dwelling and the minimum set-backs for
adjoining dwelling and housing of animals. He explained
potential problems from R-1 zoning and stated that if the
property is 1/2 acre or greater a C. U. P. must be acquired
prior to having horses or other large animals at a cost of
approximately $3,000, and there is no guarantee that the
permit will be issued. He noted that this will result in a
decreased property value and limits the potential sales to a
limited number of buyers. Mr. Eriser stated that minimum lot
size for R-1 is 6,000 square feet, the minimum dwelling size
is 1,000 square feet and manufactured homes are allowed on R-1
lots. He stated that in his opinion this would relate to a
decreased value of the property.
Ace Vallejos, 15231 Cobre, spoke in favor of the R-A zoning
and stated that where he lives in the County, he does not see
any problems with the animals and feels that it would preserve
the rural en~ironment a~d enhance the property values and be
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94-3, and noted that she is the only property owners on the
street who owns animals out of the five houses on the street.
She explained that portions of the property on Larson Street
cannot be improved because of the extensive flood control
requirements and the cost of road improvement. She noted that
at the time they purchased the property it had been used for
horses. She read a letter from her appraiser explaining the
value of the property if it is zoned R-A versus R-1. She
noted that was the only reason they purchased the property and
that they would never have gone where they were not wanted.
Mrs. Eriser stated that rather than attack the zone change
there is a need to define what can be done in that zone. She __
explained the horse trails in the area and how they connect to
Larson Street. She suggested that if Council does not wish to
zone Larson Road as R-A, then she would suggest it be zoned R-
1E or R-1A to accommodate horses and preserve the rural
atmosphere.
Mariana Mohylyn, 305 W. Sumner, spoke in support of Zone
Change 94-3. She noted how much better the environment is for
raising children when animals are present.
Rose Tompkins, 15030 Larson Road, stated that properties are
more valuable zoned for horses, if the owner is looking to
sell. She explained that she and her neighbors have owned
their properties for a very long time and they have no plans
to sell and asked that Council look at the map and note that
the persons who are opposed to the zone change live above the
creek and the persons who are in favor of the zone change live
below the creek. She asked if Council could compromise and
change the property below the creek to R-A and allow the
property above the creek to remain as R-1 property. She
explained that it was R-1 when Larson Road was annexed from
the County and the Erisers knew that it was, and they are
asking that it remain R-1. She pointed out the area which is
zoned for horse property. __
Hearing no further requests to speak, Mayor Washburn closed
the pUblic hearing at 9:15 p.m.
Councilwoman Brinley asked Mrs. Eriser to point out the
location of her property. Mrs. Eriser pointed out the
location of her property and the location of all the other
properties in support of R-A zoning.
Councilman Alongi asked what the zoning at the corner of
Larson and Machado is. City Planner Leslie stated that it is
currently R-1. Councilman Alongi clarified the fact that all
of the owners that are opposing R-A zoning are south of the
creek and all those in favor are north of the creek. He
inquired if there is a possibility of splitting the area and
satisfying all of the property owners.
Councilwoman Brinley asked if since Mrs. Eriser moved to the
area and she was allowed to have her horses and it is zoned R-
1, then if she were to sell her property is there a problem
with continued use for horses. City Planner Leslie explained
that currently the R-1 zoning states that horses are allowed
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stated that the only difference is that in the R-A zone the
keeping of horses is permitted outright, whereas in R-l it can
only be done through a C.U.P.
Mayor Pro Tem Bender noted the previous item heard and stated
that he felt that when an area was annexed, the zone should
remain the same as it was prior to annexation. He noted that
the persons who wish to have horses, have them and he sees no
reason to change the zoning. Mayor Pro Tem Bender noted that
the surrounding area is R-l and was previously zoned R-l.
Councilman Pape inquired if the property is zoned R-l, whether
the owner could advertise and sell the property as horse
property. City Planner Leslie stated that it could not be
advertised as such without an approved C. U. P. Councilman Pape
requested clarification that the new owners would then be
required to gain approval though the City with a C.U.P. He
stated that this area is appropriate to zoning for horses and
the only way that the City can assure the property owner that
they can have horses is to zone the property R-A.
Councilman Alongi stated that he felt that it was either split
the area in zoning or not change the zoning of any of the
property. He stated that by splitting it, it would not change
the current use and would eliminate the need for acquiring a
C.U.P.
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Mayor Washburn asked what Planning staff felt about the
benefit of R-A versus estate type lots which are R-l. City
Planner Leslie stated that R-A would allow outright use of the
property for horses, whereas R-l would require a C.U.P. and
would require discretionary approval.
City Manager Molendyk stated that this issue comes up all the
time and it is up to Council to decide what is the appropriate
use for the area.
Councilman Alongi asked if Council allowed the area to remain
the same and then brought it back to Council for a special
consideration for a C.U.P. at a very low fee, such as instead
of $3,000 it could be considered for $500. or less; he felt it
would be reasonable to do so.
Councilwoman Brinley stated that during the entire time she
was on Planning Commission, no person in an R-l who met all
the requirements had been denied allowance to have their
horses. She noted that she does agree with the reduced fee
and asked if a new zoning name has been considered besides R-
A.
Mayor Washburn noted that Council has set the tradition of
retaining the same zoning designation as it was previous to
annexation. He pointed out the discussion of the last item.
Mayor Pro Tem Bender noted that the surrounding area is R-l
and the area in question should remain R-l.
MOVED BY BENDER, SECONDED BY ALONGI TO DENY ZONE CHANGE 94-3.
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C.U.P. is not a sure thing and the owner can be denied the
right to have a horse at some later date.
Councilwoman Brinley stated that she wants to see the property
owner keep their horses, and suggested that the fee be made
very economical and addressed by Council sometime soon.
Councilman Alongi clarified the C.U.P. process and the ability
to transfer the C.U.P. to a new owner.
THE FOREGOING MOTION TO DENY ZONE CHANGE 94-3 CARRIED BY A VOTB 01'
4 TO 1 WITH PAPE CASTING THE DISSENTING VOTE.
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23. Zone Code Amendment 94-3 - An Amendment to section 17.20.060
CAqricultural Residential Development Standards) of the Zone
Code -Ordinance No. 993. (F:172.2)
City Planner Leslie offered to answer any questions from
Council.
Mayor Washburn opened the Public Hearing at 9:50 p.m. asking
those persons interested in this item to speak. Hearing no
one, the Public Hearing was closed at 9:51 p.m.
MOVED BY WASHBURN, SECONDED BY ALONGI TO APPROVE ZONB CODB
AMENDMENT 94-2 AND ADOPT ORDINANCE NO. 993, BASED ON THB
RECOMMENDATION OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THE FINDINGS.
Mayor Pro Tem Bender questioned the number of this Zone Code
Amendment and whether it was the same as the previously
rejected Zone Change in item #22. Mr. Leslie clarified that
one was a Zone Code Amendment and one was a Zone Change, but
concurred that with the same numbers there is an area of
confusion.
Findings __
1. As stated in the adopted Environmental Impact Report for
the General Plan, any project consistent with this said
document will not create any significant impacts on the
environment of any potential impacts will be mitigated.
2. The proposed zone change will not be: a) detrimental to
the health, safety, comfort or general welfare of the
persons residing or working within the neighborhood of
the proposed amendment or within the City, or b)
injurious to property or improvements in the neighborhood
or within the city.
3. The proposed action will be consistent with the Goals,
Objectives and Policies of the General Plan and the
standards established in the Municipal Code.
ORDINANCE NO. 993
AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE,
CALIFORNIA, AMENDING SECTION 17.20.060 (LOT AREA WITHIN THE
AGRICULTURAL RESIDENTIAL (R-A) DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS) OF THB
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ABSENT:
COUNCILKEKBERS: NONE
ABSTAIN:
COUNCILKEKBERS: NONE
BUSINESS ITEMS
31.
Nuisance Abatement Hearing Process & Cost Recoverv Resolution
- Ordinance No. 994 & Resolution No. 95-8. (F:32.4)
City Attorney Harper explained that this revision is intended
to make the processing more expeditious.
Councilman Pape questioned the use of the $100 hearing fee.
Chief Building Official Russell indicated that this was to pay
for the time involved for hearings. City Manager Molendyk
clarified that there was to be no pay for Commissioners
serving on this hearing board. Mr. Russell clarified that
this fee is for the administrative actions to facilitate the
hearing.
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Mayor Pro Tem Bender questioned page 2 of 6 in section
8.18.060 of the proposed ordinance where it reads ".....any
other person deemed appropriate". He also inquired whether it
was the intent to have more than one individual on the hearing
board, and how hearing board is to be selected. Mr. Russell
indicated that the board could consist of one or more Planning
Commissioners. Mr. Molendyk clarified that the original
proposal was for a Staff committee out of the City Manager's
Office, however Council decided to utilize the Planning
commission. He clarified that the intent would be to have two
Planning commissioners serve on the hearing board, with staff
as a back-up when two cannot attend. Mr. Russell concurred
noting that two Commissioners will not always be available and
the staff needs to ability to substitute as necessary. City
Attorney Harper indicated that as written, this Ordinance
would eliminate the ability for staff to serve on the hearing
board, and clarified his interpretation of the previous
action.
Councilman Alongi noted that when Council was not available,
staff substituted for them. City Attorney Harper explained
his understanding of the previous procedure and questioned the
ability for staff to serve. Chief Building Official Russell
clarified that staff was used under the previous procedure.
Mr. Harper indicated that staff could be used, depending on
who is citing the nuisances.
MOVED BY WASHBURN, SECONDED BY ALONGI AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE
TO TABLE THIS ITEM FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION BETWEEN THE CITY ATTORNEY
AND THE CITY MANAGER.
32.
Ordinance No. 995 Amendinq MuniciDal Code ChaDter 9.96.193 -
More than One Fishing Pole. (F:92.1)
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City Manager Molendyk explained that this Ordinance will bring
City regulations into conformance with Fish & Game
requirements.
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~UPON THE. FOLLOWING ROLL CALL VOTE:
AYES: COUNCILHEHBERS: ALONGI, BENDER, BRINLEY, PAPB,
WASHBURN
I'~O~S: COUNCILHEHBERS: NONE
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ABSBNT: COUNCILHEHBERS: NONE
ABSTAIN: COUNCILHEHBERS: NONE
33. 21st Year Community Develooment Block Grant Aoolication. __
(F:84.2)
City Manager Molendyk explained this item and clarified that
only a percentage of the funds are available for public
service oriented requests, with the balance for public works
proj ects . He noted the study Session held on January 31st and
detailed the organizations requesting funds and their efforts
in the community. He further detailed the proposed public
works projects.
KOVED BY WASHBURN, SECONDED BY PAPB TO APPROVE THB FUNDING AS
RECOMHENDED BY STAFF AS FOLLOWS:
Alternatives to Domestic Violence
Assistance League of Temecula Valley (School Bell)
Dept. of Community Action (County of Riverside)
Helping our People of Blsinore (H.O.P.E.)
Lake Community Center Rest Room Retro-fit
swick/Katich Bxpansion
$10,000
5,000
1,550
7,000
20,000
113,450
Councilman Alongi suggested a redistribution of the funds with
Operation School Bell receiving $6,500, H.O.P.E. receiving
$8,500 and Alternatives to Domestic Violence receiving $7,000.
He stressed that these organizations all have shown the
ability to serve the community and get the job done. He __
stressed the increased facilities H.O.P.E. has taken on at
extra expense and the increase in services from Operation
School Bell. He noted that A.D.V. receives a total of
approximately $300,000 from governmental agencies.
Mayor Pro Tem Bender concurred with Councilman Alongi, but
noted that his proposal would have been for H.O.P.E. to
receive the $8,750 they received last year, A.D.V. receiving
$8,750 and Operation School Bell remaining at $5,000. He
commented that H.O.P.E. is generally more closely tied to this
Valley. He indicated that he would have no problem with the
distribution proposed by Councilman Alongi. He noted that
this support is based on the assumption that the total amount
projected is received; or else a reduce amount would need to
be prorated based on the portions allocated.
Mayor Washburn commented that this discussion is really, how
the dollars can be used most efficiently. He indicated that
his approach would be to give $7,000 to Operation School Bell
and $8,000 to H.O.P.E, with a reduction to the allocation for
A.D.V.
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MOTION TO ALLOCATE $6,500 TO OPERATION SCHOOL BELL, $8,500 TO
H.O.P.E.,$7,000 TO ALTERNATIVES TO DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, $1,550 TO
THE DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNITY ACTION, $20,000 TO THE LAKE COMMUNITY
CENTER REST ROOM RETRO-FIT PROJECT AND $113,450 TO THE SWICK/MATICH
EXPANSION.
34.
Mariana Mohylyn, 305 W. Sumner, addressed the use of C.D.B.G.
funds and questioned the benefit of the dollars allocated to
the citizens of Lake Elsinore. She indicated that only 5% was
allocated to an organization serving only Lake Elsinore. She
suggested that $13,000 be allocated for her use in
establishing a shelter for homeless women.
Consideration of Initiatina an Amendment to the Historic
Elsinore Overlay District Reauirements regardina Permitted
Uses within Area 1. the Downtown (Section 17.11.030A of the
Lake Elsinore Zonina Code) - Resolution No. 95-9. (F:172.1)
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Councilman Alongi gave a brief overview of the history of the
downtown area, and noted that there are presently 14 vacancies
on Main Street. He stated that he felt that a contributing
factor to that condition is the confusion of the owners
regarding to the uses permitted in their buildings. He stated
that he is not opposed to conforming to the colors and design
to meet the design criteria specifically for the downtown
area, but stated that the city has strayed away from the
original design and noted the existing window signage which is
not in conformance. He stressed that his the main concern is
the fact that the property owners do not know what they can do
with their properties. He noted that another problem is that
it can take as long as three weeks to be heard by the Design
Review Board, which keeps the potential business man from
designing his business cards, setting up his checking account
and advertising. Councilman Alongi stated that what he is
requesting from Council is a direction for compatible use. He
explained that what he has learned at a League of California
cities session was what compatible use means, is what will
bring people to the businesses on Main Street such as a shoe
store or restaurant. He stated that something such as a
pornographic book shop or a use which is not recognized as a
use on Main Street should go before the Planning Commission.
Councilman Alongi stated that he felt that a second hand
clothing store did not belong on Main Street, however he does
not oppose them. He noted that a paralegal wishes to open an
office on Main Street and he questioned why he must make an
application to the Design Review Committee. Mayor Washburn
stated that it would be necessary for signage. Councilman
Alongi stated that he does not oppose review of signage, but
the signage can be applied for after they get their business
license. He questioned the necessity for the applicant, who
is a paralegal, to appear before the DRC and use up valuable
staff time just to occupy an office building. Councilman
Alongi stated that he felt that the parking issue should not
be a problem on Main Street, as that is why the city spent
three quarters of a million dollars in three parking lots. He
submitted to the Council that the uses listed in section
17.11.030A be allowed to proceed without appearing before the
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Councilman Pape asked if what Councilman Alongi was saying was
that the way it is currently handled, the City is driving
business away and lowering property values.
Councilman Alongi stated as an example, if a book store wanted
to go in on Main street and there are currently two other book
stores, then that person would have to appear before the DRC
and what he disagrees with is the fact that the business
person must appear before the DRC to have them tell him it is
a permitted use. He cited the paralegal, explaining that he
can proceed with a business license, get all of his printing
done, have his business cards made without appearing before
the DRC and proceed with his business without loss of time or
money, but on Main street he cannot. Councilman Alongi
clarified that what he is saying is look at the permitted uses
and allow those, if Planning thinks there is something wrong
with a proposed business, then it can be brought before the
DRC.
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Councilman Pape expressed concern that there was a potential
conflict of interest. He asked how many properties Councilman
Alongi owns on Main street. Councilman Alongi stated that he
had control of seven buildings, until the partnership was
divided, and now he has control of one which is the building
right next to City Hall. Councilman Pape asked if he owns the
property across the street from Jo Fay Motel. Councilman
Alongi stated that he does not own those properties. He
pointed out that the Motel is not a commercial building and is
not in the same district. councilman Pape stated that the
property in question is in the District. Councilman Alongi
reiterated that it is not in the Historic Downtown Overlay
District.
Councilwoman Brinley stated that during the time that she sat
on the DRC there was a period of time that the applicant had
to wait for the monthly meetings. She explained that the ....,
purpose of the DRC was to address a unique area that is the
Historical Downtown to make sure that there was compatibility
in the area. Now the DRC is part of the Planning commission's
duties and they meet twice a month which improves the time
frame for consideration. Councilwoman Brinley stated that she
felt that what the DRC does is give the business person the
opportunity to realize what they are entering into. She
explained that there are certain criteria and conditions that
must be met and this gives the business person the opportunity
to be made aware of these issues. She concluded that in order
for the DRC to maintain its credibility and for the Downtown
to maintain its integrity, she feels that it should remain as
it is. She noted that the vacancies on Main street are partly
created by the current economic times. Councilwoman Brinley
commended Planning Commission for working with the people who
are in business in the overlay District and stressed the good
job that they are doing. She stated that she would like to
see the DRC process remain with the Planning commission.
Mayor Pro Tem Bender stated that he felt that the reason for
putting the standards in place are appropriate and are useful
to create an atmosphere of business in the downtown area to
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He noted that each one of those uses has a list of the
businesses that are permitted uses for those zones. He
explained that there is a third list within the District which
has exceptions which are reasonable of which exclude some of
the items which are on the list of permi tted uses. He
suggested that a clearly defined list of the allowable uses be
created for the Downtown District. He made note of the
vacancies on Main street and pointed out that the economy does
have a lot to do with it, since there are other shopping areas
within the City which also have vacancies. Mayor Pro Tem
Bender stated that he does agree with Councilman Alongi in
regard to the fact that it could take two to three weeks to
appear before the Planning commission since it does take time
to develop the report.
Mayor Washburn explained that the Overlay District takes
precedence over the existing Code.
City Attorney Harper explained that the intent for the DRC is
to examine each use to determine whether or not it is
appropriate for downtown. He cited as an example the comment
that Councilman Alongi made regarding too many book stores or
antique shops or whether a particular use, even through it
might generally be approved in the zone, is compatible with
the existing uses. He stated that DRC gets to decide that on
a case by case basis.
Mayor Washburn explained the process of decisions by the
Design Review Committee.
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Mayor Pro Tem Bender read section 17.11.030 of the Lake
Elsinore Municipal Code as follows:
17.11.030 Permitted uses. - Those uses permitted within the
"Historic Downtown Elsinore" Overlay District shall be those
uses otherwise permitted in the underlying zoning.
A. within Area 1 (as defined within the "Historic Elsinore"
Design Standards), no new or changed use shall be
permitted without the specific prior approval as to both
type and location by the Design Review Committee (DRC).
Among the considerations of the Design Review Committee
(DRC) in determining whether a specific use will be
permitted shall be the compatibility with surrounding
uses, number and density of the same or similar existing
uses within Area 1 and the input, if any, from other
businesses in the area.
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Mayor Pro Tem Bender asked if this meant that if the applicant
is looking for a new use that is not permitted in that zoning,
then they would have to appear before the DRC.
City Attorney Harper stated that "new" means the use that is
not presently on-going at that site. He explained that
basically the purpose of that section was to "grandfather" in
those uses currently on Main street that might otherwise be
appropriate and to not require them to go to DRC for the
obvious reason that the City would not tell them to leave. He
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granting the business license for signing the lease, if the
business person knows that he can perform his business on that
site and may not have to go to the DRC. He noted that they
would be subject to the signage and all the other restriction
within the Overlay District, but may not then have to go in
front of the DRC to get permission to put in a use which is
permitted by the zoning.
city Attorney Harper stated that during his discussions with
Councilman Alongi it was his understanding what is being
suggested is the elimination of Sub Paragraph A, which states
that if the applicant has a permitted use, regardless of what --
the DRC might have to say; whether its compatible with
surrounding uses, number density, similar existing uses, that
the use of the applicant would be allowed. He explained that
this would be the elimination of Sub-Section A without
eliminating the other design criteria. City Attorney Harper
stated that there was lengthy debate and several Study
Sessions before the adoption of section A, because that was
the spectrum. He explained that the prevailing position was
that while those who were in the Downtown at that time should
be allowed to remain, any new use in a currently vacant
building or change from a building that is currently being
occupied, needed to be examined in light of the criteria in
terms of compatibility, number and density.
MOVED BY BRINLEY, SECONDED BY WASHBURN TO DENY THE REQUEST POR
CONSIDERATION OF INITIATING AN AMENDMENT TO THE HISTORIC ELSINORE
OVERLAY DISTRICT REQUIREMENTS REGARDING PERMITTED USES WITHIN AREA
I, THE DOWNTOWN SECTION 17.11.030A OF THE LAKE ELSINORE ZONING
CODE.
Councilman Pape stated that the City has spent in excess of
$6,000,000 over the last few years on the Downtown area and he
felt that the city had quite an investment to protect to try
and preserve the Historic Area. He noted that the Downtown --
Area looks nice both day and night, and explained that he does
not feel that making changes on Main Street at this time is
appropriate. Councilman Pape stated that he does not feel
that the vacancies are due to applicants spending a few weeks
going through a review process but rather the economic
situation that the entire area is experiencing. Councilman
Pape reiterated his concern that Councilman Alongi's property
at 313 and 317 North Main Street are in the Historic Overlay
District.
Councilman Alongi
accusing him of
community.
inquired
conflict
whether Councilman Pape
of interest or cheating
was
the
THE POREGOING MOTION CARRIED BY A VOTE OF 3 TO 1 WITH ALONGI
CASTING THE DISSENTING VOTE AND BENDER ABSTAINING.
35. AcceDtance of Planning Commissioner Resianation & ADpointment
of Planning commissioner. (F:60.2)
Mayor Washburn noted the resignation of commissioner Don Neff
and commended him for his service to the Community.
PAGE TWENTY-THREE - CITY COUNCIL MINUTES - FEBRUARY 14, 1995
MOVED BY WASHBURN, SECONDED BY BENDER AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS
VOTE TO APPOINT KR. JAKES SANDS AS PLANNING CODISSIONER TO FULFILL
THE UNEXPIRED TERM OF DON NEFF TO JUNE, 1996.
CLOSED SESSION
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a.
Lake Elsinore Associates vs. city of Lake Elsinore - Case
#200767.
THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING WAS ADJOURNED TO CLOSED SESSION AT 10:40
P.M.
THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING WAS RECONVENED AT 11:50 P.M. NO ACTION
TAlCEN.
THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING WAS RECESSED AT 11:50 P.M.
THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING RECONVENED AT 11:55 P.M.
PUBLIC CODENTS - NON-AGENDIZED ITEMS
Mariana Mohylyn, 305 W. Sumner, expressed concern with the timing
of the Closed Session. She further expressed concern for
homelessness and stressed the need for the City to participate in
the homeless program. She suggested the use of Community
Development Block Grant Funding and offered to provide a shelter
for homeless women in the second unit on her property at 305 W.
Sumner. Mayor Washburn noted the limited amount of C.D.B.G. funds
available for public service requests.
CITY MANAGER COMKENTS
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None.
CITY COUNCIL CODENTS
None.
ADJOURNMENT
MOVED BY ALONGI, SECONDED BY WASHBURN AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTB
Ta ADJOURN THE REGULAR CITY COONCIL~ETING AT 12:01 A.x.
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