HomeMy WebLinkAbout01-31-1995 City Council Study Session
IUNUTES
CITY COUNCIL STUDY SESSION
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
130 SOUTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA
TUESDAY, JANUARY 31, 1995
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CALL TO ORDER
The City Council study Session was called to order by Mayor
Washburn at 8:35 a.m.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
The Pledge of Allegiance was led by City Clerk Kasad.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT:
COUNCILKEKBERS: ALONGI, BENDER, BRINLEY, PAPE,
WASHBURN
ABSENT:
COUNCILKEKBERS: NONE
Also present were: City Manager Molendyk, Assistant City Manager
Rogers, Community services Director Sapp, Community services
Manager Best, Public Services Director Tecca, City Planner Leslie,
Manager of Special proj ects Watenpaugh, Special proj ects
Coordinator Wood and City Clerk Kasad.
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DISCUSSION ITEMS
1.
Communitv DeveloDment Block Grant
ApDlications. (F:84.2)
ci ty Manager Molendyk explained that this is part of the
annual process for C.D.B.G. fund distribution. He stressed
efforts by staff to identify the most efficient use of the
funds available, and noted the decreasing funds and increasing
needs.
(C.D.B.G. )
Funding
Community Services Director Sapp explained that the annual
allocation is done through H.U.D., based on population. He
noted that it is anticipated that this year's allocation will
be approximately $157,000 of which 15% can be used for public
services. He further noted that the applications received
this year are the same as last year. He detailed the requests
and staff recommendations.
City Manager Molendyk noted that the Swick/Matich Park upgrade
would provide a parking lot which would also service the
permanent boat launch facility.
Mayor Washburn requested a brief report from each organization
requesting a portion of these funds with regard to how much
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Community Services Director Sapp commented that staff, with
Council approval, will also be submitting an application for
a portion of the County allocation to provide improvements at
the Senior Center.
Mayor Pro Tem Bender questioned the anticipated $157,000 and
how to handle the distribution if the total allocation was
ultimately less. He suggested that the various allocations be
a percentage of the total rather than a set dollar amount.
Mr. Sapp indicated that while the County can require a
reallocation of funds, this is generally an accurate figure.
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Councilman Pape noted the portion suggested for retrofit at
the Community Center and inquired whether additional funds
could be taken from the Swick/Matich Upgrade to address other
concerns at the community Center, such as heating & air
conditioning or the roof. City Manager Molendyk clarified the
use of funds and stressed that the retrofit is to comply with
Americans with Disabilities Act requirements which qualify for
funding; however the other improvements would not qualify for
these funds. Mr. Sapp further clarified that the service area
of the Community Center does not qualify for C.D.B.G. funding,
but A.D.A. automatically qualifies.
Councilman Pape inquired why the upgrade at Swick/Matich would
qualify. Mr. Molendyk explained that it is within a
qualifying service area.
Councilman Alongi further questioned the possibility of
providing additional improvements at the Community Center and
stressed the deficiencies of the building. He expressed
concern that the parking lot for the ball field was more
important than saving a building from further deterioration.
Mr. Sapp reiterated the limitations on the use of these funds
and stressed that the Community Center service area does not
meet the Low and Moderate Income criteria. Councilman Alongi ....
questioned who determines the Low and Moderate criteria. Mr.
Molendyk advised that the criteria is set by the Federal
Government. Mr. Sapp detailed the efforts to obtain county
approval for the requested projects so they will support the
funding.
Mayor Washburn requested input from the organizations on the
public service requests. city Manager Molendyk noted that
there are three new Councilmembers since last year and
requested a brief overview and background from the
organizations.
Ben Nobel, Vice President of the Board for Alternative to
Domestic Violence, introduced Ms. Chris Ogawa, Executive
Director.
Chris Ogawa explained that Alternatives to Domestic Violence
has served Riverside County since 1978; cover the entire
county; receive CDBG funds from other cities, the County, and
united Way. She explained the they receive Emergency Shelter
Grant money because ADV provides emergency shelter for
battered women. Ms. Ogawa noted that their organization will
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Lake Elsinore last year, and advised that the program received
$7,000 last year. She thanked the City, and noted that all
money goes directly to the shelters and the clients' needs.
Councilwoman Brinley asked if there is a shelter in the City
of Lake Elsinore. Ms. Ogawa stated that there is not.
Councilwoman Brinley asked if their organization counsels
children in High School as well. Ms. Ogawa stated that their
organization is developing a program for teenagers since they
are finding out that the problems can start there. She
explained that anyone can call the crisis line and their
organization will present a program at the local high school.
Mayor Pro Tem Bender asked what the ADV definition of Lake
Elsinore is. Ms. Ogawa stated that it is defined by Lake
Elsinore City proper, and explained that they work from exact
addresses and have exact figures. She explained that the I-15
Region is along I-15, including Corona, Murrieta, Temecula,
Lake Elsinore and surrounding County areas.
Mayor Pro Tem Bender questioned the 532 calls in 1994, for
Lake Elsinore and stated that compared to the entire County,
there should be no more than 290 calls and asked why there
were 532. She stated that there is no way to keep count of
the duplications of call from the same persons, since they
will make multiple calls before giving exact information,
therefore only the area is known and not the exact address.
Mr. Nobel explained the process and why the number is so
different.
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City Manager Molendyk explained that the victim of domestic
violence are afraid to call for police help and will make a
number to calls to the ADV crisis line to get verbal
assistance. He explained that the City of Lake Elsinore has
a higher statistic of domestic violence since the average age
group is 28.4 and his understanding is that domestic violence
is more prevalent in the 18-32 age group. City Manager
Molendyk stated that the money requested is to support the
services, but he felt that the way to possibly drop the number
of felons caused by domestic violence is through education and
programs presented to the public.
Mayor Washburn asked what education process the organization
takes the person who is a victim of domestic violence through.
Ms. Ogawa stated that the philosophy of the organization is
self sufficiency. She explained that many of the women have
been isolated, have low self esteem and feel that they cannot
take care of themselves and their children. She further
explained that they help them access resources in the
community such as social services, law enforcement, aid in
paper work, housing, food and clothing. She noted that they
provide what the victim is ready for. Ms. Ogawa explained
that the victim often goes back to the abuser, but each time
the organization gives them one more skill and eventually they
will progress to the point that they can have an independent
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Elsinore. He noted that the surrounding areas have a Lake
Elsinore mailing address and yet they are in the County; and
even the police reports have a problem with the difference.
He noted that in their report they gave a number of 950
persons County wide of which 85% were low and moderate income.
He wanted to know how they arrived at this figure. Ms. Ogawa
explained that this is an unduplicated count of 950 persons
who are contacted through the outreach shelter and are actual
cases. She stated that 85% of the 950 are low to moderate
income. Councilman Alongi stated that because of the crime __
reported in the area, with the County and City bulked together
the City has gotten a bad reputation. Ms. Ogawa stated that
since the numbers are so high, it means that this area has a
high reporting record and that is good since the persons in
question are seeking help and the community is doing something
about it. She explained that many cities have a low
percentage of domestic violence crimes reported, and that
means the people do not call, because the city does not do
anything. Councilman Alongi stated that he is more interested
in the cases reported which are actually in the City.
Mayor Washburn questioned the 530 calls from Lake Elsinore and
asked how they geo-code those. Ms. Ogawa stated that it was
through their phone bills. Mayor Washburn stated that the
bills would list Lake Elsinore and they mayor may not be in
the City limits. He asked that they do a little more homework
to better ascertain who is actually in the City Limits.
Mayor Washburn then called on the persons representing
H.O.P.E.
Beverly Mumphrey, Chairman of H.O.P.E., explained that the
area that their organization covers is the Lake Elsinore
Unified School District, including Canyon Lake, Wildomar, -
Meadowbrook, Tuscany Hills, Lakeland Village and Sedco Hills.
She explained that they use a street guide to ascertain
whether it is City or County. Ms. Mumphrey stated that all
persons serviced are low income, with no moderate income. She
noted that if the person collects food stamps, then they make
too much money for their services. She stated that they help
people while their food stamps are pending, and explained that
last year they served 40,000 meals to the same people because
so many of them have to return. Ms. Mumphrey stated that they
have Senior citizens who are on limited incomes and they are
allowed to come once a month to collect a bag of groceries.
She explained that each bag contains 9 meals for each member
of the family. She stated that they do provide bread to those
who do not qualify for other items. She explained that they
had to expand in order to meet the needs of the people and she
pointed out that last year the City funded $8,700 which
purchased two large freezers for storage of food. Ms.
Mumphrey stated that their first priority is rent, then
utilities and then the food. She explained that if there is
no building nor utilities there will be no food. She noted
that the organization is run by an all volunteer staff and
their is no money spent on anything other than the rent,
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City Manager Molendyk asked Ms. Mumphrey if they have fund
raisers during the year to supplement the funds received.
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Councilwoman Brinley asked what portion of the budget the
funds from Lake Elsinore cover. Ms. Mumphrey explained that
their total budget is $39,000. She explained that their rent
is $14,000 a year and that is a must. She stated that they do
hold fundraisers to help support this program. Councilwoman
Brinley asked how many families H.O.P.E. service from the City
of Lake Elsinore. Ms. Mumphrey stated that they serviced 543
people from the City of Lake Elsinore, which they confirm by
street guides to establish the City limits from the County.
Councilwoman Brinley asked if they assist the persons coming
to them to seek other assistance from other organizations and
services. Ms. Mumphrey explained that the first time they
will accept a church or school referral and after that they
send them to DPSS for assistance and after that they must have
a referral from DPSS or they will not be serviced. She noted
that otherwise they would become a free mission and that is
not their purpose.
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Councilwoman Brinley commended the organization for the 35
volunteers that are working for H.O.P.E.
Councilman Alongi commented that the City Council should visit
the facility and see how it is operated.
Jerry Doyle, Department of Community Action, explained that
they are an enabling agency for the homeless. He further
explained that the cold weather shelter is only one of the
services that this department offers. He noted that while the
cold weather shelter is in Corona, it does offer a resource
for the Police Department to aid someone to get into a
shel ter. This program is operated from approximately November
1, through March 31, and allows for persons to get out of the
really bad weather. He explained that they have a very small
budget and the problem of homeless persons are growing. He
explained that there has been a major increase in the number
of women and children on the street. He noted that it has
gone up 45% in the last year. He stated that it is a goal to
get a facility closer to the Lake Elsinore area to better
serve the homeless in this area. Mr. Doyle stated that they
would appreciate the Council's continued support of this
program.
Mayor Washburn then called upon Operation School Bell
representatives.
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Louise Ball, Operation School Bell, stated that they are a
group made up of all volunteers, and explained that they run
a thrift shop to help support the clothing of 600 children a
year. She noted that all the children that their organization
services are referred to them by the schools. Ms. Ball stated
that 47% of the children are from Lake Elsinore, but they do
not keep count of County versus city. She noted that the
$5,000 requested from the City is approximately 10% of the
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Mayor Washburn asked if the clothes are brand new. Ms. Ball
stated that all of the clothes provided to the children are
brand new including a new pair of shoes.
Councilwoman Brinley commended them for all their work and
effort. She stated that both H.O.P.E. and this program leave
the people their integrity and pride. Ms. Ball extended an
invitation to Council to come and inspect the inventory that
they keep to provide clothing to the children.
Mayor Pro Tem Bender stated that he appreciates that the
organization is run by volunteers and asked how many children
are in the School District. Ms. Ball stated that there are
30,000 children enrolled in Elsinore, Temecula and Murrieta.
Mayor Pro Tem Bender asked how many of the 30,000 are in Lake
Elsinore School District. Ms. Ball stated that she did not
have an exact figure, however the 10% that the City of Lake
Elsinore contributes goes directly back to the children in the
City of Lake Elsinore. Ms. Ball stated that they are
currently trying to find a way to apply to the County of
Riverside, since they are sure that many of the children live
in the County areas and not within the different City limits.
She explained that because they are minors, the program cannot
ask for addresses, and this also allows them to retain their
dignity.
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City Manager Molendyk commented that the City appreciates
their efforts, and explained that the County area residents do
pull some resources away from the residents and he stated that
he did feel that the County should contribute to their program
since it does go to support their people as well. Ms. Ba~l
explained their process and how they use and spend the money.
Councilman Alongi stated that in their report it states that __
51% are in the poverty level and he stated that this
substantiates the amount of people that are low income
families. Ms. Ball stated that to qualify for CDBG funding,
51% of the persons serviced must be low income. She explained
that the majority which is approximately 90% to 95% of the
children's families are low income to poverty level. Ms. Ball
stated that the children must qualify for the Federal School
Lunch program before they are referred to this organization.
Councilman Alongi stated that more information is needed in
order to qualify for programs in the low and moderate income
levels; the existing programs give the City an idea of just
how many people are in that level and need assistance.
Community Services Director Sapp explained the type of
programs that qualify for CDBG funding, and clarified that for
the School Bell program they would have to start doing intake
forms to qualify for County money.
Chris Ogawa, Alternatives to Domestic Violence, stated that
when it comes to the homeless, they are presumed at poverty
level, and explained that once a woman breaks from the
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Mayor Washburn thanked the representative of the different
organizations for attending the meeting and explained that at
the meeting today, no formal action will be taken, but will be
presented at the next city council Meeting.
Councilman Alongi stated that H.O.P.E. is planning to do an
emergency blanket supply, and asked if that can be an
additional request for CDBG funds.
Community Services Director Sapp stated that he will have to
check with the County to find out if that would be considered
an eligible service. He asked if the program is eligible,
would H.O.P.E. be submitting another application. Councilman
Alongi stated that probably not this year, but they will ask
for the program to be considered for next year.
Councilman Alongi stated that H.O.P.E. in trying to develop a
program for emergency blankets, because at this time there is
nowhere that a person can go in case of emergency and receive
a blanket, or where the homeless receive a blanket during cold
weather. He stated that he felt that this program is needed.
Councilman Alongi asked why the Library has not applied for
CDBG funds. Community Services Director Sapp stated that the
Library does not qualify for this type of funding, and
explained how the census tract maps set the areas that are
considered for the different funding.
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city Manager Molendyk explained the purpose and noted that it
is easier to group sections for neighborhood centers and their
needs versus community centers which encompass the entire city
area. He noted that they are better identified for their
income levels and can have their needs directly met.
Councilman Alongi asked why it was not possible to call the
Community Center, the Neighborhood community Center in order
to qualify for funds from the CDBG. Community Services
Director Sapp explained that there is no other facility which
is available, and therefore it services not just one area, but
the entire City and does not qualify. He explained that if
there were two libraries and two community centers, then funds
could be requested based on the fact that it is assumed that
the facility services the immediate area which is low to
moderate income.
Councilman Alongi asked why the Senior Center qualifies for
benefits. Community Services Director Sapp explained that
because they are seniors and have a presumed benefit and are
considered low to moderate income and qualify.
Mayor Pro Tem Bender stated that definitions and statistics
are misleading.
Councilman Alongi asked if there was a way to change the
situation, and find the answers to implement the change. He
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2.
Memorandum of Understandinq reqardinq state Route 74.
(F:82.3)
Public Services Director Tecca stated that Cal-Trans requested
that the City enter to an MOU for State Route 74 (Riverside
Drive) between Interstate 15 and Grand Avenue. He pointed out
the width that they are requiring is 134 feet which would
affect several businesses along the stated route. He
explained that retaining the 50 foot take along the west side
and taking 84 feet along the east side would save all the
existing development along the west side and confine damages
to the east side only. Public Services Director Tecca
explained that if we continue to require dedication of 50 feet
on both sides, and the roadway must be widened in the future
to carry future traffic, Caltrans will be forced to buy all
additional right of way and pay damages for all existing
structures. That would be many years in the future; and would
significantly increase the cost of widening, maybe to the
extent that widening would be impossible. He stated that it
is his recommendation that the City adopt a policy that
requires dedication of 50 feet along the west side of
Riverside Drive and 84 feet along the east side, and noted
that this policy would be included in the General Plan.
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Councilman Alongi clarified that Caltrans is proposing a six
lane roadway from 1-15 to Grand and stated that he felt that
this was impractical since it would wipe out so many
businesses.
Mayor Washburn stated that he could see that width being
dedicated in vacant areas, but not in the area already
developed.
City Manager Molendyk questioned if Caltrans is going to ask
that the City require a 134 foot roadway dedication, and they __
are not going to improve the Ortega Highway, then what is the
purpose.
Public Services Director Tecca outlined the area that Highway
74 encompasses.
city Manager Molendyk questioned the study that Caltrans has
done, the existing development and the impact that this will
have.
Public Services Director Tecca stated that this is a far
future plan and would have no immediate impact, but could
happen some day.
Councilman Alongi stated that if we follow Caltrans plan then
the impact will not be in the future, but now. He explained
that when someone wishes to develop, this setback will have to
be met. He noted that even if they do not build the road for
a long time, the set backs will have to be done now if this
plan is adopted. He suggested that the Mayor appoint a
committee to meet with Caltrans to get the full information on
this plan. Councilman Alongi stated that as he reads this MOU
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Mayor Washburn stated that he had just spent all day Saturday
at an WRCOG meeting and one of the topics the meeting dealt
with was SCAG's projections of traffic and how WRCOG is trying
to work with it. He noted from that meeting, all the
different cities' General Plans went to SCAG directly, then to
Cal trans. He explained that Cal trans then came up with a date
of 2010 projection of traffic volumes. He noted that from
their study every roadway is rated E and F and is restricted.
Mayor Washburn stated that all the numbers are inflated and in
the General Plan we are stating the possible maximum. He
explained that what this has created is a situation where
Caltrans is holding up funding for Highway 74 and they are in
no hurry to fund that project. He noted that if Caltrans is
not willing to put funds into upgrading that Highway, then the
City should not worry about the required dedication.
City Manager Molendyk pointed out the distance a store or
building will be setback with the City not being able to
promise when the development of the roadway will occu!:'.
Councilwoman Brinley stated that if they are not going to fix
Highway 74, then to follow this dedication is siJ.~~}..
Public Services Director Tecca stated that there is not nearly
enough money and Highway 74 is on the bottom of the list. He
stated that they are only aSking for the City'S comments.
Mayor Washburn stated that he would like to see Public
Services Director Tecca take this document back to them and
have more dialogue.
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city Manager Molendyk stated that this would open up
discussion for off-ramps from 1-15 to address new commercial
development, and noted that now is the time to talk about it
to have it included in the plan.
Public Services Director Tecca stated that he is still waiting
for answers regarding Ortega Highway and Grand.
Mayor Washburn suggested that staff start pressuring Caltrans
regarding what they are going to do about the agreement that
is already in place.
Councilman Alongi stated that this could injure development
along Riverside Drive.
Councilwoman Brinley asked if there would be another MOU
regarding off-ramps. City Manager Molendyk stated that he is
trying to set up a meeting with the other City Managers to
consider all the issues.
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Councilman Alongi asked if it would be possible to use CDBG
funds to move a family that was displaced from their home due
to abatement. City Manager Molendyk stated that it would be
restricted to the immediate downtown area and would not apply
to Nashland.
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ADJ01JlUD(EHT
MOVED BY WASHBURN, SECONDED BY ALONGI AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE
OF THOSE PRESENT TO ADJOURN THE CITY COUNCIL STUDY SESSION AT 10:10
A.M
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ATTEST:
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