HomeMy WebLinkAbout09-10-1996 City Council MinutesNIINUTES
REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
183 NORTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFO1iNIA
TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 10,1996
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CALL TO ORDER
The Regular City Council Meeting was called to order by Mayor Pape at 7:02 p.m.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
The Pledge of Allegiance was led by City Manager Molendyk.
INVOCATION
The Invocation was provided by Pastor Joe Rivera, representing Pressing On Faith Ministries.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: COUNCILMEMBER5: ALONGI, BRINLEY, KELLEY,
METZE, PAPE
ABSENT: COUNCILMEMBER5: NONE
Also present were: City Manager Molendyk, Assistant City Manager Watenpaugh, City Attorney
_ Harper, Administrative Services Director Boone, Community Development Director Leslie,
Community Services Director Sapp, Manager of Special Projects Best, City Engineer ODonnell
and City Clerk Kasad.
A. ~resentation - Art in Public Transit Pro,gram - R.T.A. (F:140.12)
Councilwoman Brinley introduced R.T.A. General Manager Susan Hafner, and noted that
September is Lake Elsinore Month, with a Lake Elsinore bus pass designed for the City.
Ms. Hafner presented the City with a framed version of the bus pass and explained the Art
in Public Transit Program. She detailed the routes serving the City of Lake Elsinore, and
innovations being reviewed to be used in the future. She also noted that discussions are
underway with the School District to provide services fro the secondary school students.
Ms. Hafner expressed appreciation to the Council for their support and to Councilmember
Brinley and Metze for their participation on the R.T.A. Board. Mrs. Brinley thanked Ms.
Hafner and introduced the Transportation Now Coalition members present in the audience
and thanked them for their participation.
Ms. Hafner noted the benefits of the input by the Transportation Now Coalition, and
presented copies of the September Bus Passes to the City Council.
B. Proclamation - National Pollution Prevention Week. (F:122.1)
Mayor Pape read and presented the National Pollution Prevention Week proclamaton to
Ben Irwin of Oricom. Mr. Irwin presented the Council with gifts from ORICOM, being a
bottle of refined waste oil which has been refined into "America's Choice" oil.
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C. Presentation - CAP Committee Re~ort. (F:142.1)
Mayor Pro Tem Kelley introduced Steve Wallace for this presentation. Mr. Wallace
commented on his participation in the Community Action Planning Conference. He
detailed the conference attendees, the sponsorship of the conference, and the purpose of
the conference to improve the image of the community. He detailed the FIT program Fix
it Together which is fashioned after a similar program in Anaheim. He explained that the
objective is to give facelifts to houses in Lake Elsinore, owned by senior citizens unable to
make the improvements. He explained that the program is intended to improve the image
and develop understanding. He detailed the requirements for participation in the program,
and presented a brief video on the Anaheim program. He detailed the need for volunteers.
Mayor Pro Tem Kelley noted the similarity to the Paint Your Heart Out Program in
Anaheim. Mr. Wallace indicated that interested parties can contact him at 244-3252 for
information and applications. Setting up the application and liability processes. Mrs.
Kelley clarified that the intent for the first year is to work on 1 to 3 houses.
D. Presentation - Su~port the Lake Committee Project. (F:92.1)(X:108.4)
Bob Schiffner, explained the fund raising campaign he has undertaken on behalf of the
Chamber of Commerce, for the sunset lake cruises. Ae presented a packet of information
and detailed the Sunset Cruise which are intended to turn around the negative attitude
about the Lake, and improve its nnage. He detailed the cost of this area which is being
borne by Pro Marine and area marinas. He noted that the waiting list for the cruises is
now ten weeks. He advised that more information can be obtained by calling 678-4028.
He commented that there are businesses that will benefit from the improved image of the
lake and the City. Mr. Schiffner introduced Pete Dawson ofPro Marine. Mr. Dawson
stressed the contributions of the marinas who are assisting in making the cruises a success.
E. Presentation - AQMD Projects. (F:36.2)
Larry Rhinehart, SCAQMD, indicated that he was present as part of the local government
outreach program. He commended the Council on their recognition of Pollution
Prevention Week. He noted the launch of a regulatory reform initiative to reduce staff,
and an on-line computer pernutting program. He indicated that the District's most
significant current activity is updating the 1994 Air Quality Management Plan. He
detailed the review process underway and the dates of the upcoming public hearings. He
commented on the availability of his office to assist with the requirements of AB2766,
and noted the potential for financial benefit of this program for the City.
PUBLIC COMMENTS - AGENDIZED I7'EMS
Requests were received to address the following items and deferred to those discussions:
Item Nos. 5 and 7.
CONSENT CALENDAR
The following items were pulled from the Consent Calendar for further discussion and
consideration:
ItemNos. 4, 5, 6 and 7.
MOVED BY BRINLEY, SECONDED BY METZE AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS
VOTE TO APPROVE THE BALANCE OF THE CONSENT CALENDAR AS
PRESENTED.
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The following Minutes were approved:
a. Regular City Council Meeting - August 27, 1996. (F:44.4)
2. Ratified Warrant List for August 29, 1996. (F:12.3)
Received and ordered filed the Investment Report for July 31, 1996. (F:12.5)
BU5INESS ITEMS
31. Withdrawal from the Lake Elsinore Management Authority - Resolution No. 96-52.
(F:92.3)
City Manager Molendyk provided a brief history of the City's participation in the
Authority; and explained the plan to withdraw from the Authority. He noted that this
would include both the City and RDA representation on the Authority.
Mayor Pape noted that he is the City representative, explained that the Authority is now
down to three agencies and it is only logical that with the completion of the initial goals, it
should be dissolved for now. He furhter noted that it is possible to form another
organization later, but suggessted that it is best to conserve funds at this time.
Councilwoman Brinley concurred with Mayor Pape and noted the potential for a newer
more current program in the future.
MOVED BY BRINLEY, SECONDED BY METZE TO ADOPT RESOLUTION NO. 96-
52:
Councilman Alongi questioned the pending lawsuits and whether they would continue.
City Attorney Harper indicated that it would now be a moot point.
THE FOREGOING MOTION CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE.
RESOLUTION NO. 96-52
A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE, AUTHORIZING TH~
WITHDRAWAL OF ITS MEMBERSHIP IN THE LAKE ELSINORE
MANAGEMENT AUTHORITY AND THE DISSOLUTION THEREOF.
32. Four Corners Storm Drain at Lakeshore Drive and Riverside Drive.(F:155.1)
City Manager Molendyk provided an overview of the original Four Corners Storm Drain
project and the related delays. He detailed the recent discussions and the proposed
agreement for the City to participate in the amount of $7,800 and noted that it is a fair and
equitable arrangement. He noted that the City funds would come from Gas Taxes.
MOVED BY BRINLEY, SECONDED BY ALONGI AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS
VOTE TO APPROVE THE PROPOSED AGREEMENT.
Councilman Alongi noted that this was a very good job of negotiation by staff.
33. Visions & Views/T.V. Program.(F:102.1)
City Manager Molendyk explained that this item came out of a Study Session as a means
to provide more information to the general public. He recommended approval of the
Community TV program which would give an overview of the Community far the
residents, and noted the potential for more in-depth information to be provided. He
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suggested that this would be a way to provide a more positive outlook and image for the
residents, and serve as a vehicle for acknowledging accomplishments in the Community.
Councilwoman Brinley explained that she and Mayor Pro Tem Kelley met with Cheryl
Smith from Continental Cablevision to develop the format for the program. She noted
that the proposed logo and program title were developed by Kazen Snyder. She further
noted that the TV moderator and host will be Tom Thomas, who was chosen for his well
rounded working knowledge of the Commuinty. She advised that the program is being
provided at no cost to the Community, but by Mr. Thomas and Continental Cable are
providing the program. She detailed the programs being planned for the first few months;
including a preview of the open air market, a tour of City Aall and introduction of the City
staff, a series on the boat launch constructioq and a program regarding the possible tri-
city trolley car under discussion.
Mayor Pro Tem Kelley introduced Tom Thomas and Cheryl Smith and commended their
efforts and thanked them for their assistance. She explained that the program is being
designed to highlight and update the community on on-going projects, and suggested that
anyone with ideas can contact she or Councilwoman Brinley. She looked forwazd to first
airing on October 7th.
Councilwoman Brinley added that they will be going in to homes and holding discussions
with home owners regarding the City, and stressed that the program is intended to be done
on a positive note. She thanked Mr. Thomas, Mrs. Snyder and Ms. Smith for their
contributions.
Councilman Alongi expressed respect for Iv1r. Thomas, but suggested that because of his
political involvement in the Community, he would like to see someone non-political, and
suggested Allen Baldwin as an alternate. Ae noted that the City is entering a difficult
financial period and quesitoned the amount oftime that staffwill be asked to spend on this
project. He expresssed support of the program, but questioned the time commitment. He
suggested that if staffis being asked to do things for the program, it should be live with
the calls not being censored. He stressed that all residents should have a right to call in.
He expressed hope that this program would have no conflict with his which will be
starting in November. He requested that the Council consider this item further and not
approve it yet.
Councilwoman Brinley commented on Mr. Thomas and noted his expertise in Cable
Television, and stressed that it is difficult to find someone in the community who is non-
political. She indicated that the City is fortunate to have Mr. Thomas's participation. She
indicated that some of the shows will be live shows with call ins by residents and panel
members to respond. She indicated tha the only staff time will be for a once a month
meeting in which Mr. Sapp would be participating, with the exception of the tour of City
Hall, during which staffwould be interviewed. Mrs. Kelley noted that the taped shows
will be so that events can be covered live for later broadcast. Ms. Smith indicated that this
would be primarily an in field production with little input from staff, and stressed that
there is no cost to the City. She stressed that the purpose of doing the show in the
Commuinty is to address what is happening in the Community and what it has to offer.
She noted the difficulty of doing so within the confines of the studio.
Councilman Alongi noted out of the four times the Open Air Market he understands, the
tour of City Hall o.k., but questioned the location for the Trolley & the intent in showing
the Boat Launch Facility. Councilwoman Brinley explained the trolley concept which
would include a ride on the trolley and interviews of those involved in the trolley.
Councilman Alongi questioned where the information will come from for the program, and
stressed that he does not want to overload the staffwith the program. Councilwoman
Brinley explained that it would be information provided by herself and RTA
representatives. Ms. Smith indicated that the production staff and Mr. Thomas will be
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coordinating the information and go into the community to find the information. She
stressed the work to be done, would be done by the production staff. Councilman Alongi
noted the potential for a need to meet with staffto get the information. Ms. 5mith
reiterated that there would be a meeting once a month. Councilman Alongi stressed the
need for staff input on the topics. Ms. Smith noted the that this would be assisted by the
participation of the Councilmembers. Mayor Pape questioned the potential problem of
producers approaching staff before air time. City Manager Molendyk indicated that it
was his understanding that Continental would be an extension of City Staff. He indicated
that with only periodic shows, there would be a minimal amount of time commitment by
staff. He suggested that if that coxnmitment become overburdening, he would share that
information with the committee.
Councilman Alongi questioned page 4 of 4, and the discussion of the format. He noted a
statement with regard to "taping for control purposes and the potential for editing the
phone calls which are received". Councilwoman Brinley stressed the, format as proposed,
and noted the potential for calls at some of the later programs. Mayor Pape noted that
this was intended to be a positive effort to keep the public informed, and different formats
may occur.
MOVED BY PAPE, SECONDED BY BRINLEY AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS
VOTE TO APPROVE THE FORMAT AND PROGRAMMING A5 PRESENTED.
ITEMS PULLED FROM CONSENT CALENDAR
4. Claims Against the City submitted by Robert Smith~Kathleen Smith & 7uanita Collins (CL
#96-15a-cl. Billie B. Hobart {;CL #96-17~ Frank Vasquez (CL #96-181 Joseph N. Grasso
(CL #96-191. (F:52.2)
Councilman Alongi indicated that he pulled this item because he would like the Council to
remove this and add the 7oseph N. Grasso Claim to the Closed Session discussion.
MOVED BY BRINLEY, SECONDED BY METZE AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS
VOTE TO DEFER THE GRASSO CLAIM TO CLOSED SESSION FOR DISCUS5ION.
MOVED BY ALONGI, SECONDED BY BRIlVLEY AND CARRIED BY UANIMOUS
VOTE TO REJECT AND REFER TO THE CLAIMS ADMINISTRATOR FOR
HANDLING, THE CLAIMS SUBNIITTED BY ROBERT SNIITH, KATHLEEN SNIITH,
JUAIVITA COLLINS, BILLIE B. HOBART AND FRANK VASQUEZ.
Adoption of a Resolution Ugdating the Disadvantaged Business Enterprise Program
BE . (F:84.3)
City Manager Molendyk explained this item and the prior consideration.
Mariana Mohylyn, 305 W. Sumner, questioned the funding of this program and the intent
of the program. She questioned the minority groups involved, noted special
considerations given to certain groups and suggested equal treatment for all. She stressed
the need for consideration to be given to women.
Chris Hyland, 15191 Wavecrest, noted a recent article in the newspaper and indicated that
it was disgusting that the Mayor indicated that he would vote against the program. She
noted businesses owned by women, which are not used by the City. She noted that there
are parties available to do landscaping int he City, who employ minorities. She noted that
the Chamber of Commerce even has their printing done in Mumeta, when there are
several printers in the community. She indicated that she could care less about the
Mayor's Republican stance on Affirmative Action. She indicated that she hoped that the
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Federal Goverment would place sanctions against the City to prevent it receiving the
money.
Mary Venerable, 29400 3rd 5treet, requested pernussion to speak beyond the limit of
time, as her presentation was approximately seven minutes. Mayor Pape indicated that
she would need to scale down her comments to three minutes. Mrs. Venerable indicated
that she is a business woman in the Lake Elsinore Area and a retired federal worker, and
detailed her employment history in affirmative action and federal compliance. She
expressed concern with the Council's failure to pass the updates to this program; and
stressed that this is merely an update of the regulations in place since 1991.
Councilman Alongi indicated that he has always fought for the small businesses, minority
or otherwise. He clarified his beliefthat all businesses should be on an even plane in
applying for the projects; and indicated that this was a discriminatory act of tying the
governments hands. He stressed that he does not like the requirement which causes an
unfair or special treatment in the competitions for jobs. He indicated that it was a disgrace
to say that small businesses cannot exist without government aid. He explained his reason
for voting no at the last meeting, but stressed that Council cannot jeopardize the funds
available to the community.
Mayor Pape concurred with Councilman Alongi, and noted his understanding of the law,
the requirements and the strings attached. He commented that the Council needs to do
what is best for the community; and if the Council plans to continue accepting fiznds, they
will need to play by their rules.
Councilman Metze indicated that he would not vote against this item, but questioned
whether the program would work. He noted the problems he encountered as a disabled
person; and expressed concern that the program is not working. He indicated that he
would not take the funds away from the Community.
MOVED BY METZE, SECONDED BY KELLEY AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS
VOTE TO ADOPT RESOLUTION NO. 96-50:
RESOLUTION NO. 96-50
A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE UPDATING THE
DISADVANTAGED BUSINESS ENTERPRISE (DBE) PROGRAM AND
APPOINTING A DBE LLAISON OFFICER AND ESTABLISHING DBE GOALS.
6. 1996/97 M.O.U. (F:116.2)
City Manager Molendyk explained that this this item has been negotiated with the United
Public Employees of California. He explained the role of the Union and the discussions
which occuned at budget time. He further explained that the document reflects a 3%
cost of living for this budget year and the funds have been set aside, pursuant to Council
guidelines.
Councilman Alongi noted that this is one of those items which is distasteful to discuss as it
relates to the employees. He indicated that all of the employees are at the top of the list,
but Council is still dealing with the budget. He further indicated that while he does not
oppose the M.O.U., he does question the future plans for the finances of the City. He
noted that the air conditioning units at the Community Center are broken, and it is difficult
to keep equipment working properly. He suggested that this item be postponed until after
the financing has been discussed. He detailed his concerns and indicated that this matter
should be postponed until after the Council discussion on September 12th.
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Councilwoman Brinley reiterated that the funds were allocated in the approved budget,
and stressed taht the staff is doing double duty.
MOVED BY BRINLEY, SECONDED BY METZE AND CARRIED BY A VOTE OF 4 TO
1 WTTH ALONGI CASTING THE DISSENTING VOTE TO APPROVE THE
MEMORANDUM WTTH THE UIVITED PUBLIC EMPLOYEES OF CALIFORN7A,
LIUNA LOCAL 777 AS PRESENTED.
Councilman Alongi expressed apologies to the employees.
C,~gnlemental Agreement - 22nd Year C.D.B.G.(F:84.2)
MarianaMohylyn, 305 W. Sumner, questioned how much money the City will be getting
and for what purpose it will be used. She noted previous approvals and quesitoned why
work has not yet been completed. She expressed concem with the funds being used for
Code Enforcement.
Councilman Alongi indicated that he pulled this item because of the way the money is
being allocated, and expressed concern with amount for Swick Pazk vs. Code
Enforcement. He suggested shifting the fixnds to better address Code Enforcement. He
wished for more for the Senior Center and e~cpressed concern with the amount allocated to
Crune Prevention. He questioned how a pazk can be put ahead of the code enforcement
and crime prevention; and how to clean up the town if the money is a11 spent for parks.
Mayor Pape noted earlier discussions of this item; and explained that this was the best
matching between what was wanted and what was available. He concurred with need to
fix the air conditioning at the Community Center, but clarified that it does not qualify for
use of these funds. He stressed the parameters of the funding eligibility. Community
Services Director Sapp concurred with Mayor and detailed the limitations and guidelines
of the program. He indicated that the only funds which could be transfemed for Code
Enforcement would be those allocated to HOPE.
Councilman Alongi questioned how the staff arrived at the numbers for Swick Pazk and
Code Enforcement. Community Services Director Sapp clarified the funding for a public
works project vs. public service project dollazs. Councilman Alongi further questioned the
percentages and suggested that the Council could increase code enforcement and crime
prevention. He stressed that a park is not important, but Code Enforcement is important.
He stressed the need to remove crime and problems from the Community.
MOVED BY BRINLEY, SECONDED BY KELLEY AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS
VOTE TO APPROVE THE SUPPLEMENTAL AGREEMENT FOR THE 22ND YEAR
C.D.B.G. FUNDS FOR SWICK/MATICH PARK EXPANSION PROJECT/ PHASE II
($149,100), CODE ENFORCEMENT ($14,000), LAKE ELSINORE SEIVIOR SERVICES
($40,784), CRIME PREVENTION ($6,564) AND H.O.P.E. ($5,000); AND AUTHORiZED
THE MAYOR AND CTTY CLERK TO SIGN THE AGREEMENT.
THE CITY COUNCIL MEETIlVG WAS RECESSED AT 8:30 P.M.
THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING RECONVENED AT 8:32 P.M.
PUBLIC COMMENTS - NON-AGENDIZED TTEMS
Mariana Mohylyn, 305 W. Sumner, expressed concern for Lake Elsinore. She expressed sorrow
that most of the people don't come and listen to the meeting. She expressed concern with the lack
of sidewalks and Sunday bus transportation. She requested the opportunity to participate in the
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RTA meetings to which Councilwoman Brinley is the liaison.
Mary Venerable, 29400 3rd Street, further addressed the DBE Program Resolution. She
expressed concern that with what she perceived as difficiencies int eh program and suggested that
the appointment of the City Engineer as the liaison is a conflict of interest. She noted the list of
contractors provided by CALTRANS, and questioned how often the Council is made aware of
the number of contractors contacted. She further questioned the provision of periodic reports on
program compliance. She requested that the Council investigate the requests for bids and noted
that there are a number of hispanic business owners in the area who do landscaping. She
suggested that the Council form a committe of minority individuals to review this program and
others.
Chris Hyland, 15191 Wavecrest, reiterated the concerns of Ms. Venerable; and concurred that the
appointment of the City Engineer is a conflict. She requested a list from the City of all businesses
owned by women who could be contracting for work, and a list of minorities in City Hall and
those contacted for bids.
Peter Dawson, Pro Marine, noted that additional water ski races will be held on September 21 st
and 22nd. He noted the need for patrol boats to assist during the event, and requested that
interested parties call Pro Marine. He encouraged spectators to attend on Poe Street at
Lakeshore. He noted that the Lake has been especially nice this year, most people have left and
the conditions are still ideal.
CITY MANAGER COMMENTS
City Manager Molendyk noted that the Do It Center announced that it will be opening on
November lst.
He recognized Chief Seabert for her efforts on fires throughout the State.
~ITY COUNCIL COMMENTS
Mayor Pape called upon Councilman Alongi to make his comments. Councilman Alongi declined
and stated that he was not ready to comment. Mayor Pape stated that if he did not speak now he
would pass his chance to make comment. Councilman Alongi continued to decline to speak.
Councilman Metze commented on the following:
1. Commented that for quite some time he has had some personal feelings, and noted
that the article that was printed in the San Diego Union Tribune last Sunday and
brought all his feeling into focus. He stated that he felt that Councilman Alongi
and Chris Hyland are working against the City in regard to bonding . He quoted a
portion of the paper and pointed out that he did not understand what they wanted
through printing this type of negativity. He stated that this article was probably
fa~ced to the Bank of Sumitomo the next day. He pointed out that just because
they happened to find a reporter in San Diego who was ignorant and gullible
enough to print this without talking to the Mayor or staff. Councilman Metze
noted that we need to keep an eye on this type of situation. He pointed out that
the City is being sabotaged and he does not know why. He asked if it were an
issue of a couple of Council seats or so you can say "I told you so". He pointed
out that the article was full of lies and amazes him that this would happen. He
pointed out that this just firrns the feelings that he has had.
Councilman Alongi stated that this was the purpose of him being asked to go first so he cannot
rebut.
Councilwoman Brinley commented on the following:
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She explained that Sunday started out to be a good and positive day until she
received a disturbing phone call from the City Manager about an article in the San
Diego Union Tribune which appeared on the front page. She noted that what
bothered her the most was that the staffwriter Mr. Bloom, appazently made no
effort to contact her. She stated that as Chairman of the Redevelopment Agency
and a Council person she should have been contacted or the Mayor should have
been contacted to gain their input regarding the Stadium and the efforts that they
aze making to work toward a positive resolution of the Stadium. She pointed out
that in the news article it quotes Councilman Alongi stating that he was censured
and barred from City Hall because of the way he voted on the Stadium. He stated
that it is an untruth and misleading. She noted that in 7une,1995, Mayor Pape and
herself wrote the censure procedure to address Councilman Alongi and it had
nothing to do with his vote. Councilwoman Brinley pointed out that the censure
was in support of the employees of the City of Lake Elsinore to confirm their trust
in Council giving them the right to work in a harassment free environment; to send
a message to the Employee's Association of Riverside County that the Council did
not condone abusive behavior upon the employees; and finally to reduce the
liability of the City being sued by separating the actions of one Councilmember
from the body as a whole; to censure Councilman Alongi's activities to reduce the
chance of an attack on any employee of occurring again; and City Council giving
the City Manager the authority to remove Councilman Alongi from City Hall for
any of the above mentioned actions, violations or foregoing which would
constitute a trespass and may be enforced, if necessary through the Riverside
County Sheriffs Department. She noted that the censure had nothing to do with
his vote regarding the Stadium, however, his comment in the paper stated that City
Council censured him for his vote. Councilwoman Brinley stated that these are
misleading falsehoods. She stated that she takes afl'ront to another statement
which was: "the lack of response does not surprise Councilman Alongi, Ms.
Mayhall, Ms. Lovett or Mrs. Hyland who says City officials do not want people to
know the truth about their City Government"
Councilman Alongi stated that the statement was true.
Councflwoman Brinley stated that this new City Council has been forthright in
providing information. She noted that everything is public record For public
knowledge. She pointed out that the public has the freedom to walk down to City
Hall, between the hours of 9:00 a.m. and 4:00 p.m. on any given day, Monday
through Thursday and pick up a copy of the budget and anything thing else you
would wish to see. She noted that there is not anything hidden from the public.
She further pointed out that Lake Elsinore is not the only City experiencing money
problems. She noted that Lake Elsinore is not the only city experiencing money
problems. Councilwoman Brinley pointed out that the City of Moreno Valley, ~
City of Perris, Riverside County, City of Murrieta aze experiencing money ~
problems and they don't have a Stadium to blame it on. She explained that no
one on City Council when they had to make the drastic cuts in the budget, that the
City was not having problems, no one has said that the Stadium did not have
problems. She pointed out that hind site is 20/20, Council knows what is wrong
and it is Council's resolution to be part of the solution; to save the Stadium; to
work toward a positive production. She noted that another untruth that is in the
article is the fact that the Wynona 7udd Special was placed before the Kids-On-
Track program. She pointed out that the Wynona 7udd Special was a 4th of 7uly
Concert that was presented in 1994 and $100,000 was set aside in the budget to
promote the show and had nothing to do with the Kids-On-Track program. She
noted that when the Kids-On-Track program came up in 1995 for cuts, she had
approached Council for $35,000 one time seed money to save the program. She
noted ihat to this time she and Mayor Pro Tem Kelley are working with the school
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to acquire grants to help continue the program. Councilwoman Brinley addressed
Mrs. Lovett, owner of Granny's Kitchen, statements regarding her statements and
pointed out that she is open for breal~'ast and lunch and explained that there is no
way that the Stadium could affect her business, since she doesn't serve dinner. She
noted that she and her husband eat at the different restaurants around the Stadium
and observed that they aze busy, and that the Stadium has not hurt their business.
Mrs. Lovett who is also the President of the D.B.A. stated that the Stadium has
done nothing except cost them a ton a money. Councilwoman Brinley disagreed
and stated that the Stadium had iYs 1,000,000 fan on July 24.
Councilman Alongi interrupted and asked how much the City has lost. He pointed out that if the
Mayor won't allow him to speak he will interrupt.
Mayor Pape called Councilman Alongi to order, and stated that Councilman Alongi needed to
control himself.
Councilman Alongi continued to disrupt the meeting.
Mayor Pape stated that Councilman Alongi had a choice; he could either sit quietly and act like a
professional or he can get up and leave on his own, or the deputy would be instructed to remove
him. He stated that those are the choices and he can choose.
Councilman Alongi stated that the Mayor would have to have the Deputy come up and remove
him because he was not going.
Mayor Pape stated that Councilwoman Brinley had the floor and asked that Councilman Alongi
allow her to continue.
Councilman Alongi stated that the Mayor refused him the right to comment and the reason that he
was refused the right was because of what was being said. He noted that the Mayor could have
allowed him to speak after everyone spoke, because he knew exactly what was going to happen
this evening. He further stated that they do not have the backbone to have Councilman Alongi
rebut what was being said, because Council is still lying to the people of the City of Lake
Elsinore.
Mayor Pape stated that he feels that what was occurring was a rebuttal to what had already been
said.
Councilman Alongi agreed and stated that what they are telling the people is a lie. He stated that
what he has told the people is the truth.
Councilwoman Brinley commented that if only one third of the people that have
used that Stadium stopped and used a restaurant, gas station, one of the local
grocery stores, or one ofthe local service stores then it represents tu~ dollazs that
were spent in the City. She addressed Ms. Lovett and pointed out how important
the tax dollar is to the City. She noted 7ane and Howazd Barnes of the Lakeview
Inn have informed her of the occupancy of their Inn which has occuned because of
the Stadium as well as what the restaurant owners in town say about the stadium
and the business it has generated for them. Councilwoman Brinley addressed the
statement by Mrs. Mayhall that the City stopped giving her business three years
ago because she opposed the project and explained that she has known Mrs.
Mayhall for appro~cimately 18 years and noted that Mrs. Mayhall has been an
outspoken person in the community whether she is for or against an issue and she
does not feel that any member of Council has anything against Mrs. Mayhall. She
noted that anyone can get up to the podium and express their opinion and felt that
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the City has gone from one extreme to the other with Mrs. Mayhall accusing us of
this type of action. Mrs. Brinley stated that she can remember people going to
previous Councilmembers and questioned Mrs. Mayhall getting all the printing jobs
because Linda Strigotte, a former Mayor and Councilmembers wife, worked for
Mrs. Mayhall. Councilwoman Brinley stated that Council knows that just because
Linda Strigotte worked for her was not the reason why she got the print jobs. She
again addressed Mrs. Lovett concem that the local politicians will boycott her
restaurant and noted that as far as she knew Councilman Alongi is the only
Councilmember who frequents her restaurant and since she shares his views, she
felt that Mrs. LovetYs fears are pointless. Councilwoman Brinley speaking for the
RDA pointed out that the 5tadium did not cost $25,000,000 but rather
$22,000,000 and it is not a$25,000,000 loan to the Bank of Sumitomo, but rather
$10,000,000. She pointed out that the City pays $1,000,000 a yeaz, with an
annual operations and maintenance costs are $750,000 a year without Spectrum.
She addressed the audience and stated that there is nothing that the public does not
haue the right to see and know and there is nothing that the City Council has ever
kept from the public. Councilwoman Brinley stated that she is getting tired of ~
reading articles about her City, the Stadium and sitting on Council and having to ~
defend it to a person who didn't do his homework and did not take the time to i
seek out staff and make the effort to go 100% of the way to talk to other
Councilmembers. She noted that the reporter took the opinion of a few negative
people within our community. Councilwoman Brinley stated that it is her
obligation and professional duty to conduct herself in a professional manner. She
further stated that she does not go out in the community and talk down or bash her
City. She explained that there have been mistakes and errors, but it is things that
Council can correct and resolve and there is not one person of the four on the City
Council that isn't working daily to help the Stadium. Councilwoman Brinley stated
that she had lunch with Mr. Zed Buffman, who is the developer who is doing a
major development of approximately $140,000,000 in Temecula. She explained
that she had met with Mr. Buffman to ask for help and direction for the City and
came away from the meeting with a positive feeling about what can be done and
Mr. Buffrnan's vision of two cities working together to allow both to prosper, and
then she picks up something like this article which shows her that there is a
Councilman sitting on this board trying to work against a Council that is trying to
deal with the cunent problems. She noted that it is sad that Councilman Alongi's
obsessive vindictiveness for the past Council, because he wants to be able to say "I
told you so" will bring the City down at any cost. Councilwoman Brinley stated
that Council cannot allow that to happen.
Mayor Pro Tem Kelley commented on the following:
Stated that she had read the news article also, and she was very saddened by it.
She explained that what saddens her in reading this article is not the specifics, but
rather the fact that at the beginning of this new Council it was agreed that what is
the past is the past; and that we need to put our heads together to solve problems
and get solutions. She asked when are we going to start solving problems and not
creating them. She further explained that Council agreed to cooperate with each
other; work hazd with each other; we need to look to our financial advisors; and
we needed to come up with solutions and not keep beating a dead horse, especially
with misinformation. She noted that Council agreed that the budget with both the
long term and short term solutions were their major goals. She stated that she
thought all of Council agreed that was what they were going to work on, now an
article like this divides and prevents cooperative solutions. 5he noted that it
creates problems where there shouldn't have been a problem created; it creates
animosity where we don't need it; it alienates people on the Council where we
don't need to be alienated. She stated that the Diamond is here and we need to
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make it work. Mayor Pro Tem Kelley stated Yhat the only way that Council can
make it work is to work together and articles like this do nothing but create
problems that we don't need. She stated that it is even more appalling when it
comes from one ofyour own.
Mayor Pape commented on the following:
1. Stated that he always felt that a City Councilman should be an ambassador for the
City, out in the public promoting the benefits of the City, not only to iYs residents,
but to people outside the area. He noted that especially with Lake Elsinore where
a major element of our revenue comes from tourism. He pointed out that to the
communities to the south of us who saw this article, I think that we have been
damaged. He noted that they will have a very different opinion of what they haue
had of Lake Elsinore than what they haue had previously. He further noted that
the efforts of the member of the community to promote the Lake and tourism in
the City could be affected by the general opinion of the people who read this piece
of yellow journalism done by a lazy reporter who didn't make any real effort to get
the full story. Mayor Pape stated that going through the article there were so
many lies and misinformation that it is hard to point them all out, but a few of the
key ones can be pointed out. He noted that the numbers used for the Stadium
were incorrect. He further noted the part the addressed the Downtown is inconect
and slanted. E~Ie stated that he doesn't know if our powntown is different from
anyone else, but he does feel that the downtown has improve quite a bit in the last
year, with less vacancies and stores and restaurants expanding. He pointed out
that the City spent $6,000,000 fixing up the downtown area, to make it look nicer
to attract people into the area. He pointed out that there is a major hotel that is
planning to develop at the end of Main Street. Mayor Pape noted the statement by
Pat Lovett about local politicians boycotting her restaurant, and yet there is only
one Councilman, Mr. Alongi, that eats there regularly and maybe she was
concerned that if she didn't speak up on his behalf that he would end up boycotting
her restaurant, since not of the others go there. Mayor Pape pointed out the
section of the article that states that Councilman Alongi was censured and batted
from City Ha11 for voting against financing the Baseball Park. He stated that a
censure is an official reprimand, and was issued because of an assault on a City
staff member.
Councilman Alongi stated that allegation has not been proven yet.
Mayor Pape cautioned Councilman Alongi that he has been spoken to.
CounciLnan Alongi stated that he doesn't caze if he has been spoken to or not, that Mayor Pape
should state the truth or don't say anything.
Mayor Pape asked Councilman Alongi if he was ready to leave.
Councilman Alongi stated that no he was not, but to get his Sheriff ready.
Mayor Pape continued and stated that the censure occurred because of an attack
on a staff member
Councilman Alongi interrupted and stated that it is alleged.
Mayor Pape went on to say that Council had a concern that it might occur again
and so Council took action to prevent that to other staff members.
Councilman Alongi interrupted and stated that this is without due process.
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Mayor Pape stated that there is no possible way a reporter could even confuse it.
He stated that he is the first one to give the benefit of the doubt on a quote in the
news paper. He explained that he has been quoted enough times that he knows
that things can be taken out of contea~t, things can be changed and not necessarily
by the reporter, but by the editor, so that what is said is not exactly what is printed.
He noted however, if there is a discussion about the Stadium and discussion
regarding a censure which occurred in City Hall relates to the Stadium discussion,
leads to the conclusion that it would not be reported unless it was brought up.
Councilman Alongi stated that this should tell you that he would not say that.
Mayor Pape noted that in the article it states that "These people should be lined up
against the wa11 and shot for what they did".
CouncIlman Alongi interrupted and stated that was right and Mr. Winkler and Mr. Washburn
should haue gone to jail.
Mayor Pape asked for the Sheriffs Officer to remove Councilman Alongi since he
was tired of being interrupted. Mayor Pape called for a two minute recess.
THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING WAS RECESSED AT 9:04 P.M.
THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING RECONVENED AT 9:05 P.M.
Mayor Pape stated that Councilman Alongi's conduct was absolutely rude
continually interrupted. He noted the statement in the article that states that the
people should be lined up against the wall and shot for what they did, somebody
needs to go to jail. He further noted that he did not know who he wants to shoot,
but there have been allegations in the past and a report was filed with the Sheriff s
Office by former Mayor Strigotte because Councilman Alongi threatened to shoot
him in the head. Fie noted that there was also a threat against Charlie Hand. He
explained that he does not know if the reference was in regard to one of these
gentlemen or one of the past Councilmembers. Mayor Pape pointed out that he is
the only one cunently on Council that had anything to do with the construction on ~
the Stadium and voting of the financing of the Stadium. Mayor Pape stated that he
hopes that he is not talking about shooting anyone that is currently on the Council
since they did not have anything to do with the financing of the Stadium. Mayor
Pape commented on the cost to operate the Stadium and noted that there was no
mention that the City is negotiating a new contract with the Team to raise the
revenue to the City to pay for the Maintenance. He explained that Council has
taken action to handle the Stadium ourselves. He commented on Councilman
Alongi's response on how the City will get out of the situation, and Councilman
Alongi stated that we would not. Mayor Pape stated that it is clear to him that
Councilman Alongi does not want to be a part of the solution, but rather
contribute to the problem. He pointed out that there is five people on Council who
are suppose to be working together as a team to solve the problem. He made note
of the comments on the City's Lighting and Landscaping District comments made
by Councilman Alongi and stated that the information was incorrect. He further
noted the difference in information regarding the cost to convert the Stadium for
special events, cost of concerts, funding for the Stadium, the Kids-on-Track
Program, and commented on Councilman Alongi's remark about the fact that
Council would not talk to the reporter because the Council wants to calm down
the bankers and the bond-holders and they want to stop the negative publicity.
Mayor Pape asked who "they" was since he thought we were all suppose to help
solve the problems. He noted that Council should be focusing on tomorrow and
trying to make the future better, instead of continuing to dig up the past. He asked
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if anything in the article contributed to the solution. He pointed out that the
Stadium is there and the challenge before us now is to make it work. Mayor Pape
pointed out that continuing to try and degrade the Stadium, financing and previous
Council is non-productive and sad. He made note of the letter in the Californian
by Mr. 7acobs that Councilman Alongi criticize for being negative about the City
of Lake Elsinore and then turned around and did just the same thing. Mayor Pape
stated that he felt that it was important to address this news article because ofthe
misinformation and lies that appeared in this article and wished to see them
corrected.
CLOSED SESSION
Potential Litigation - L.E.R.A., Inc.
2. Potential Litigation - Lou°s Lakeshore Lounge.
Pending Litigation - USA Properties.
4. Potential Litigation - Tattoo Parlor.
THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING WAS ADJOURNED TO CLOSED SESSION AT 9:11
P.M. TO DI5CUSS THE ABOVE LISTED TTEMS AND THE CLAIM OF JOSEPH
GRAS50.
THE CITY COUNCILMEETING RECONVENED AT 10:15 P.M.
MOVED BY PAPE, SECONDED BY BRINLEY AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS
VOTE TO REJECT AND REFER TO CLAIMS ADMIlVISTRATOR THE CLAIM
SUBMITTED BY JOSEPH N. GRASSO, AND DIl2ECTED THE CITY CLERK TO
SEND A LETTER INFORNIING MR. GRASSO OF TffiS ACTION.
ADJOURNMENT
MOVED BY BRINLEY, SECONDED BY PAPE AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS
VOTE TO ADJOURN THE REGULAR CLPYF CIL MEETING AT 10:16 P.M.
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/KEVIN W. FAPE, MAYOR
/ CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
CY CLERK
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE