HomeMy WebLinkAbout12-09-1997 City Council MinutesMINUTES
REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
183 NORTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA
TUESDAY, DECEMBER 9, 1997
RM Its
The Regular City Council Meeting was called to order by Mayor Pape at 7:07 p.m.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
Colors were presented and the Pledge of Allegiance was led by Boy Scout Troop 99
and Scoutmaster Tony Romero.
INVOCATION
None.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT:
ABSENT:
COUNCILMEMBERS:
COUNCILMEMBERS
ALONGI, BRINLEY,
KELLEY, METZE, PAPE
NONE
Also present were: City Manager Watenpaugh, City Attorney Leibold,
Administrative Services Director Boone, Community Services Director Sapp,
Assistant to the City Manager Best, City Engineer O'Donnell, Senior Planner
Villa, Police Chief Walsh, and City Clerk Kasad
PRESENTATION
Mayor Pape read the Proclamation recognizing Skylark Airport and presented
it to Larry Noggle.
Mr. Noggle thanked the Council for the Proclamation and noted their efforts
to improve the airport and the drop zone. He finther noted that they are also
working with contacts in Hollywood to promote commercials and movies.
He stressed their interest in promoting the City and thanked the City for this
recognition. Councilwoman Brinley thanked Mr. Noggle for their efforts and
assistance with Visions and Views. Mayor Pape noted that it is fun to watch
the skydivers on the weekend and commended the courage of the other
Councilmembers who participated.
PAGE TWO - CITY COUNCIL MINUTES - DECEMBER 9, 1997
Debra Childers, representing the Chamber of Commerce, advised that they
are negotiating with three companies to bring a Circus to Lake Elsinore in
April or May. She announced the 1998 Chamber of Commerce Board of
Directors; and advised that Tom Thomas will be serving as President for
another term. She reminded the Community about the Chamber Installation
at the Diamond Club on January 10th and noted that all are welcome to attend
this Black Tie affair at a cost of $55 per person.
She further discussed the Chamber's Economic Development Program; and
noted that they have been meeting for several months. She further noted the
articles in the Sun Tribune about their efforts: � She also noted that they are
now working cooperatively with representatives from Canyon Lake and
gaining recognition at the regional and State levels for those efforts. She
commented on the enthusiasm of the officials involved in this effort, and
highlighted successful efforts to date. She announced that they are putting
together a Video Program for Channel 3, entitled Lake Elsinore Connections,
which will begin airing at the end of January.
J.1 - 11_11_ i - -
Assistant to the City Manager Best detailed the formation of this Committee
in 1996, and stressed their attempt to establish a web page at no cost to the
City. She highlighted the Internet uses in other communities for tourism
purposes, access to public records, etc. She stressed that the Internet is the
future wave of communication, and staff felt it was imperative that the City
establish a site on the World Wide Web. She explained that the project has
been funded by a grant from the South Coast Air Quality Management
District; due to the potential for trip and pollution reduction. She advised that
the complete program includes an in -house Computer terminal for public
access and staff is currently negotiating a site for a Kiosk with 24 hour a day
access. She noted that the site is still under construction, and introduced the
staff committee including Armando Villa, Bill Payne, Kim Magee, Larry
Russell and Richard Hess. She also noted that Deloise King from Mt. San
Jacinto College was providing the equipment for this presentation; and
thanked her for her assistance.
Armando Villa noted the current access to the Internet and the world, and
provided the City's web site address being: www.lake- elsinore.ca.us. He
indicated that interested individuals can access the primary web page and
noted the information contained on that pate. He acknowledged City staff
member Jill Delaney for her artistic contributions to the web page. He
demonstrated access to the General Information area and showed the Council
photos, meeting information and agenda information areas.
Lang Russell detailed the Community Development Department Web Site for
PAGE THREE - CITY COUNCIL MINUTES - DECEMBER 9, 1997
building, planning and engineering, citation administration and waste
management. He detailed the information available through the Building
Department including access to staff members, information on building
inspections and plan check. He advised that in the future Planning plans to
offer information on planning zoning, development standards, general plan,
design review and mapping. He stressed the 24 hour a day access to the site
and noted that one important factor is the State and Federal codes which need
to be interpreted; and information can be gained within a few hours. He
noted that one main goal is to provide a local site for local access to Riverside
County information.
Bill Payne detailed the web page information for the Community Services
Department; noting the recreation, tourism, area sports, recreation programs,
campground information, guides to dining and hotels. He indicated that for
the Stadium there will be a schedule of all events that will occur, a Storm
Baseball link, lake use regulations, boat launch information, schedule of
launch fees, information on annual launch passes from the City, historical date
about the lake and its ecosystem. He further advised that for public works
there will be on -line maintenance request forms for submittal, standard
drawings for public works construction items such as sidewalks and street
maintenance; as well as information on contracts which are out to bid. He
further detailed information on parks and emergency operations to be
included on the page. He stressed the opportunity to share information on
the City with outside individuals and agencies.
Kim Magee detailed information to be provided by the Administrative
Services Department including business license information and forms for
submittal; and noted the ability to contact the Contractor's State License
Board for verification. She noted that payroll will also benefit, by being able
to access IRS regulations on new rates, annually. She advised that the City
Manager's Office area will include information on economic development and
contacting other governmental agencies. She noted that it will be possible to
supply information via the Internet to potential new developers. She
indicated that the City Clerk/Human Resources /City Council area will have
minutes and agendas, on -line job descriptions and applications for submittal
to the City; and citizens can directly e-mail the Council via the Internet.
Richard Hess noted the services which can be offered via the Internet and
detailed the future goals including, getting the e-mail system up and running,
placing the computer terminal on the counter in Community Development,
providing GIS data and maps, and placing the off -site Kiosk in a commercial
area. He further advised that the longer term goals include the ability to
provide for electronic payments via e-mail.
City Manager Watenpaugh commented for the public that the staff has done
this on own time with no City dollars. He stressed that this was a staff
PAGE FOUR- CITY COUNCIL MINUTES - :DECEMBER 9, 1997
generated idea, presented to management; and an effort which will save a lot
of time. He commended staff on their efforts and Council for their support of
this effort.
Mayor Pape questioned how soon the City Council agenda would be
available. Mrs. Best indicated that it can be scanned in and made available
now. She noted that this presentation was actually on -line. She thanked
Deloise King and Mt. San Jacinto College for their assistance with this
presentation.
1 :4. 15 _
Pete Dawson, noted -the other positive presentations this evening; and
announced the Christmas Boat Parade of Lights to be held on December 13th.
He further noted that this will be the fourth year for the parade with most
events going well, except for last year's windy conditions. He advised that
there will be free launching and lake use for participants, from Elsinore West
Marina. He further advised that there will be a mandatory boat check from 3
to 5 p.m.; a driver's meeting at 4:30 p.m. and departure for the parade at 5:30
p.m. He detailed the route of the parade and gave time lines for viewing. He
encouraged spectators to dress warmly and noted that there will be a large
bonfire on the City beach. He detailed the prizes for winning entries and
advised that the judges are the City Councilmembers and Congressman Ken
Calvert. He noted and thanked the sponsors including Elsinore West Marina,
Costco and Pro Marine.
PUBLIC COMMENTS - AGENDIZED ITEMS
None requested.
CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS
The following item was pulled from the Consent Calendar for firther discussion and
consideration:
Item No. 5.
MOVED BY BRINLEY, SECONDED BY KELLEY AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO APPROVE THE BALANCE OF THE CONSENT
CALENDAR AS PRESENTED.
1. The following Minutes were approved:
a. Regular City Council Meeting - November 25, 1997. (F:44.4)
PAGE FIVE - CITY COUNCIL MINUTES - DECEMBER 9, 1997
3. Ratified Warrant List for November 26, 1997. (17:12.3)
4. Rejected and referred to Claims Administrator the Claim Against the City
submitted by Paul & Sheila Bywater (CL #97 -26). (17:52.2)
I_:__�
21. Revision #1 to ZQT-e-
No. C97-4, pLQosed Cal Burgers Restaurant at 29301 Riverside Drive
AQpeal of Conditi "n Use Permit No. 97-5. Revision #1. (F:58.2)
City Manager Watenpaugh noted a request for continuance of this item
received this date. Mayor Pape noted that this consideration has been
ongoing for about six months and questioned the timing of the request. City
Manager Watenpaugh noted that the applicant requested this delay as he was
bedridden. Councilman Alongi suggested that it would be no problem to
postpone this item.
MOVED BY METZE, SECONDED BY KELLEY AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO CONTINUE THIS PUBLIC HEARING TO
JANUARY 13, 1998.
Councilman Alongi indicated that he pulled this item because it was
discussing school bus zones; and indicated that he would like to see the
Council give consideration to parents driving children to school. He further
indicated that he would like a study session to develop a plan for appropriate
parking areas and signage.
MOVED BY ALONGI, SECONDED BY METZE AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO RESOLUTION NO. 97-69 THROUGH 97 -71.
RESOLUTION NO. 97-69
A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF
LAKE ELSINORE ESTABLISHING NO PARKING ZONES ON
CERTAIN STREETS NEAR ELSINORE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
RESOLUTION NO. 97-70
A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF
LAKE ELSINORE ESTABLISHING LOADING ZONES ON
PAGE SIX - CITY COUNCIL MINUTES — DECEMBER 9, 1997
CERTAIN STREETS NEAR ELSINORE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
RESOLUTION NO. 97-71
A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF
LAKE ELSINORE ESTABLISHING PARKING RESTRICTIONS ON
CERTAIN STREETS NEAR ELSINORE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING WAS RECESSED AT 7:45 P.M.
THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING RECONVENED AT 8:10 P.M.
all ll \ll ill N 513 .�
Peter Dawson, 18010 Grand Avenue, spoke as a flood control representative and
noted that there has been no water coming into the Lake since 1995, and the Lake
level is down. He stressed the area of the watershed area which is the source of the
water and noted the snow in the mountains which will ultimately melt and come into
the Lake. He further noted that as of today, Canyon Lake came up three feet and
will overflow the dam in two and one half feet; which could happen in a couple
more days. He commented that in 1993 the water was coming into the Lake at two
inches an hour, which could be at flood stage in three weeks. He urged waterfront
property owners to remove any potential boating and floating hazards; and to
purchase homeowners' insurance now, noting the 30 day delay for coverage. He
clarified that there could be no flood at all, or it could happen in as little as three
weeks. He noted that he has the name of a surveyor for flood insurance who would
give a discount for any required surveys.
Gary Grant, 27068 Jarvis Avenue, Perris, Chairman of CSA 41, indicated that he
was present to discuss problem with Highway 74 and noted that this has been a hot
potato for quite some time, as there has been many accidents. He stressed the
number of major accidents between Lake Elsinore and Perris. He further stressed
that many residents of Lake Elsinore use that road and they are impacted
tremendously. He indicated that on Saturday, December 13th there will be a rally in
Meadowbrook to place pressure to recognize the problem. He welcomed Lake
Elsinore residents to attend the rally and sign the petitions to show support.
Dean Billings, 15620 Grand Avenue, #12, indicated that he was moved by God to
attend this meeting and present two complete plans for Lake Elsinore to profit He
detailed one plan to renovate trailers for handicapped and disabled residents, which
would cost the City about $2,500 per trailer and allow for profit by the City and the
Community. He detailed a second plan for use of the wetlands as a bird reserve
and provide for an import/export hemp business. He noted the potential uses of
hemp for fuel, clothing textiles, etc. He suggested that with minimal maintenance
and effort the City could purchase the Lake and run its own baseball stadium.
Leroy Tucker, 3532 Cherry Blossom, addressed the Mayor and noted his past
PAGE SEVEN - CITY COUNCIL MINUTES - DECEMBER 99 1997
concerns with traffic on Lakeshore Drive at Inco homes; and advised that he was to
see that it has now been taken care of and looks nice. He noted that the Mayor also
must travel Lake Street and noted it is getting bad, and more rain will impact it
further. He noted that the elections are over and the citizens have spoken. He
expressed hopes of erasing the lines which exist and offered to assist, however he
believes it is possible with town hall meetings and discussions. He stressed the
importance of all getting together and start working for the City. He expressed
concern that at past meetings it has not appeared that the City Manager, Finance
Director and City Treasurer are all on the same page, and suggested that they could
get together prior to Council Meetings to get together. He wished all Happy
Holidays and reiterated his offer of support and assistance.
City Manager Watenpaugh commented on a meeting with the President of the
Chamber of Commerce and noted efforts to put together a committee of downtown
merchants to restart the open air markets on Main Street. He explained that they
intend to proceed at no cost to the City, and have presented an outline for review
which appears to be a good proposal.
City Attorney Leibold noted the Special Meeting of the Council for one closed
session item regarding existing litigation with Y & M, Inc., Spectrum under
Government Code Section 54956.9a; which will occur immediately after the regular
meeting.
Councilman Metze commented on the following:
1) Agreed with Mr. Tucker, and noted that with the consensus of the
Council, on the January 13th meeting he would like an item on agenda
regarding a Council policy change for Mayor appointments to occur
yearly. Council concurred to consider this matter on January 13, 1998.
2) Complimented staff on their Internet effort, and stressed that this is
exciting for the community. He noted the future potential of placing
agenda packets on the Internet as well. He encouraged staff to proceed
with their efforts.
3) Requested that staff contact Rod Gunn for a town hall meeting, at his
convenience, regarding the City's finances, including where we were,
where we are and where we are going.
4) Noted that he missed the last Council Meeting and thanked those who
voted for him and assisted with his campaign. He stressed that his
V.
PAGE EIGHT CITY COUNCIL MINUTES DECEMBER 9, 1997
workers did a tremendous job in assisting him.
5) Wished all a Happy & Safe holiday.
Councilman Alongi commented on the following:
1) Noted that the City has had the Stadium for four years now, and he has
yet to see a City flag fly there. He suggested that the City should show
pride of ownership and he would like to see the City flag flown during
the upcoming season.
2) Thanked everyone for their contributions to the Winterfest festivities.
He also thanked City staff for their great job; and Chief Walsh for the
participation of his deputies.
3) Addressed Councilman Metze regarding the policy on appointment of
the Mayor. He indicated that Council is supposed to have a study
session on Council policy, and the policy in place is very direct on how
.to appoint a Mayor. He indicated that he doesn't think two years is
good, but one year is not enough time. He suggested looking at
electing a Mayor, like the City of Perris did. He stressed the politics
associated with the Mayor's position and suggested that election would
remove the political strength.
4) Noted some recent letters to the editor, and indicated that it was
amazing to him how ignorant people send the letters and the papers
print them. He addressed one letter by David Armstrong which
chastised Judge Micelli because he did not make a decision on the
court date. He stressed that the job of the judge is to go overall the
evidence before making a decision and he did that job.
5) Noted a letter from Sharon Atkins and commented on the self righteous
people who write letters and have no idea how the system works. He
indicated that he believes the recent RDA meeting was a Brown Act
violation; and while the City Attorney has her opinion whether it was
right or wrong; people should let the proper authorities make that
decision. He indicated that he believes all meetings should be public
regardless of who they are with.
6) Expressed sympathy with Mr. Olson, and indicated that he was
absolutely right that people have families and what is said in Council
Meetings is government and has nothing to do with their families. He
indicated that while he may have disagreements with people at the
table, he does not hate them. He thanked the Mayor for praying for
him. He played a tape from his telephone recorded and indicated that
this type of person is not needed in the community. He noted that his
family receives those messages and they have nothing to do with his
family, but with what he believes is right or wrong.
PAGE NINE - CITY COUNCIL MINUTES - DECEMBER 9, 1997
7) Expressed hopes that everyone will have a very blessed holidays and
wished the best for the community. He suggested that hopefiilly next
year the Council can see eye to eye on more things, but he is not sorry
for what he has done over the years. He indicated that he won't
compromise his beliefs, and while most would agree to disagree, he
feels it important to treat others as human beings. He indicated that he
has known Mrs. Brinley for years, and although they disagree, she has
never been disrespectful to him in public.
Councilwoman Brinley commented on the following:
1) Thanked the boy scouts for the Presentation of Colors, and expressed
hopes that they would do the same again in the future.
2) Noted the kickoff for the Tri-City Trolley and this month's Visions and
Views Program. She noted the participation of children from
Butterfield Elementary School and Railroad Canyon School. She
thanked the children for their participation.
3) Thanked Susan Hafner, Debra and Joan from RTA for their efforts on
the Trolley. She noted that the Trolley will run through the month of
December, detailed the route and encouraged ridership. She thanked
this year's sponsors of the Trolley and thanked City Staff for their
efforts on Winterfest. She also thanked Walmart for the snow, Echo
for the entertainment and Chuckles Java Junction for hosting the
dignitaries.
4) Reminded the Community of the upcoming Boat Parade of Lights on
December 13th.
5) Wished her Grandson Adam a Happy Birthday on his first birthday and
noted that he is doing well now and they are very thankful and blessed.
She expressed thanks to all who prayed for him.
6) Thanked City staff for their efforts in a hard year; and noted that they
worked hard, supported the Council, made the necessary budget cuts,
and worked on the measures. She expressed thanks for the support
throughout the year.
7) Addressed Mr. Tucker on his comments with regard to the stadium and
the potential for sale of the stadium. She suggested that anyone who
wishes to place an offer is welcome. She further noted comments by
Mr. Olson regarding Mr. Brown of the Angels organization; indicating
that Mr. Brown also owns a minor league team himself, thereby
bringing much needed expertise. She concurred with Councilman
Alongi that there should be a City flag flying at the Stadium.
PAGE TEN - CITY COUNCIL MINUTES - DECEMBER 9, 1997
8) Wished all a Merry Christmas and a prosperous and healthy New Year.
Mayor Pro Tern Kelley commented on the following:
1) Thanked the boy scouts for the Presentation of Colors and noted that
she can attest that some have been good, as they are students at her
school. She also noted that they are participating to fulfill a portion of
the work on their citizenship badge.
2) Thanked Walmart for the donation of snow and thanked all City staff
involved to make the event a success. She encouraged residents to ride
the Trolley over the Holidays and reiterated the route. She noted that
the Press Enterprise, Readers' Choice Awards chose the Lake Elsinore
Outlet Center as the number one place to shop.
4) Reminded the public about the Chamber installation dinner on January
10th.
5) Wished everyone a Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.
Mayor Pape commented on the following:
1) Noted that the AM/PM at four comers is nearing completion; and the
one at Nichols/I -15 has received grading and plan check approval,
pending Water District approval and should move dirt soon.
2) Noted Mr. Dawson's comments regarding Canyon Lake and concurred
that water would soon be over the dam. He indicated that the Lake is
presently at elevation 1243 -1/2 and outflow begins to work at about
1255'.
3) Apologized to Mr. Armstrong & Ms. Atkins and indicated that it is not
appropriate to call people ignorant. He finther indicated that the tape
played by Councilman Alongi was in poor judgement.
CLOSED SESSION
THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING WAS ADJOURNED TO CLOSED
SESSION AT 8:45 P.M. TO DISCUSS THE FOLLOWING:
a. Pending Litigation - Y & M, Inc.,(Spectrum) pursuant to Government
Code Section 54956.9a
THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING RECONVENED AT 9:19 P.M. NO
ACTION TAKEN.
PAGE ELEVEN - CITY COUNCIL MINUTES - DECEMBER 9, 1997
• 1 1koWli
MOVED BY METZE, SECONDED BY BRINLEY AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO ADJOURN THE REGULAR CITY COUNCIL
MEETING AT 9:21 P.M.
e�N'11. PAPE, MAYOR
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
ATTEST:
1
VICKI KASAD, CITY CLERK
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
u