HomeMy WebLinkAbout08-12-1997 City Council MinutesMINUTES
REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
183 NORTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA
TUESDAY, AUGUST 12, 1997
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The Regular City Council Meeting was called to order by Mayor Pape at 7:03
p.m.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Councilman Metze.
INVOCATION
The Invocation was provided by Pastor Gary Ennis, representing Lamb's Fellowship
of Lake Elsinore.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: ALONGI, BRINLEY,
KELLEY, METZE, PAPE
ABSENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: NONE
Also present were: City Manager Watenpaugh, City Attorney Leibold,
Administrative Services Director Boone, Community Development Director
Leslie, Community Services Director Sapp, Fire Chief Seabert, Police Chief
Walsh, Assistant to the City Manager Best, Community Services Manager
Edelbrock, City Engineer O'Donnell, and City Clerk Kasad.
PRESENTATIONS
None.
PUBLIC COMMENTS - AGENDIZED ITEMS
Requests were received to address the following items and deferred to those
discussions:
Item Nos. 2, 3, 32 and 33.
CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS
Councilman Alongi noted that items 31 and 32 on the Agenda should be reversed.
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Mayor Pape indicated that it was so noted.
Councilman Alongi requested an added item to clarify the motion by the Council
with regard to matching funds for the parks.
The following items were pulled from the Consent Calendar for further discussion
and consideration:
Item Nos. 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 and 8.
MOVED BY BRINLEY, SECONDED BY KELLEY AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE, TO APPROVE THE BALANCE OF THE CONSENT
CALENDAR AS PRESENTED..
1. The following Minutes were approved:
a. Regular City Council Meeting - July 8, 1997. (FA4.4)
The following Minutes were received and ordered filed:
b. Planning Commission Meeting - June 18, 1997.
C. Planning Commission Meeting- July 2, 1997. (F:60.3)
d. Design Review Committee Meeting - June 18, 1997.
e. Design Review Committee Meeting - July 2, 1997. (F:60.4)
PUBLIC HEARINGS
21. Zone Change No 97 -1 and Commercial Project No C97 -4 Cal Burgers
Restaurant at 29301 Riverside Drive -Ordinance 1032. (F: 172.2)(X58.2)
City Manager Watenpaugh noted the location of the proposed project.
Community Development Director Leslie provided an overview of the
proposed project, and detailed the location. He provided parcel acreage
information and explained that the intent would be to leave a portion of the
property vacant. He advised that the zoning change was proposed for the
entire parcel, as the Planning Commission felt the entire site should be zoned
C -2, and the design was appropriate. He also explained that the Planning
Commission approved a Conditional Use Permit. He indicated that staff
worked with the applicant on the design to incorporate factors similar to the
Outlet Center.
Councilman Alongi questioned the C -M zoning areas left in Lake Elsinore,
and expressed concern with reducing the zones which would allow for
manufacturing. Mr. Leslie noted that the applicant is not asking for a General
Plan Amendment, and clarified that the existing M -1 zoning classification was
inconsistent with the General Plan in that area. He clarified the zoning
further as requested by the applicant for the C -2 to accommodate a drive thru
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restaurant. He noted that staff had suggested that only the Restaurant portion
of the site be zoned C -2, with the balance being C -M to allow for some
manufacturing uses. Councilman Alongi noted that the General Plan was
done in 1990 and it seems to be changed frequently, and noted the cost of the
revisions. Mr. Leslie reiterated that the request is more consistent with the
General Plan adopted in 1990 than it was before, and noted that staff has
made zone changes where needed, to make zoning more consistent with the
General Plan. He stressed that in this case, the project would be sticking with
the 1990 General Plan, but changing the zoning on the property to be more
consistent. Councilman Alongi questioned the handicapped parking and
noted concerns for a van pulling in and not being able to get out of the van
side door. He indicated that the proposed space is useless, and stressed that
consideration should be given to full usage of the spaces. 'Community
Development Director Leslie noted that the plan allows for loading or
unloading from either side. Councilman Alongi stressed his concern for
access to a van with side doors. Mr. Leslie noted the potential choices of
parking spaces. Councilman Alongi indicated that by moving one space near
the loading zone, it would prevent someone from being blocked in the
vehicle. Community Development Director Leslie explained the loading zone
and noted the location being discussed by Mr. Alongi. He clarified the
access for side loading vans on the diagram of the site. Councilman Metze
noted that the same problem exists on either side. City Manager
Watenpaugh questioned whether Council was suggesting additional
handicapped spaces. Councilman Alongi indicated that was not the intent,
but he was looking at a space by the loading zone to prevent someone being
blocked. Mr. Watenpaugh indicated that the plan as proposed meets the
handicapped requirements, but staff could review the matter further.
Councilman Alongi stressed his concern for the potential of someone being
blocked in and noted that this is an opportunity to prevent the problem. Mr.
Leslie indicated that staff could do so if the Council wants to suggest that as a
condition for discussion with the applicant. He explained that the spaces
were picked as they were because they are the required size and per the Code
with regard to where they are located. Councilman Alongi indicated that he
is not concerned with where they are located, but stressed that they should
have access wherever they are, noting problems at Albertson's and Vons.
Councilman Metze suggested that the Council condition the applicant to
provide the third space. Mr. Watenpaugh concurred that it could be added.
Mayor Pro Tem Kelley questioned the number of fast food restaurants
approved in the immediate area of this project. Community Development
Director Leslie indicated that there is a pad at Nichols/I -15, and at CentraVI-
15 there is Douglas Burgers and a Burger King. Mayor Pro Tem Kelley
stressed that there are three other fast food restaurants near this site.
Mayor Pape opened the Public Hearing at 7:21 p.m., asking those persons
interested in this item to speak. Hearing no one, the Public Hearing was
closed at 7:21 p.m.
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Councilwoman Brinley expressed concerns with the zone changing, and
indicated that she has a problem with the fast food restaurant and potential for
a strip center. She indicated that she would like to continue this item and
have a chance to review it with the applicant to address other concerns. She
further indicated that she would like to sit down with the entire Council to see
how to best address that location. She stressed that it is a Specific Plan area,
and noted that there are concerns which might need to be addressed with the
applicant. She indicated that she would like to continue the matter for about
4 weeks to allow for a meeting with the applicant. Mayor Pape questioned
the ability to continue this public hearing. City Attorney Leibold indicated
that it would need to be continued to a date certain
MOVED BY BRINLEY, SECONDED BY KELLEY AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO CONTINUE THIS ITEM TO SEPTEMBER 9,
1997.
BUSINESS ITEMS
31. =ointment of Official Community of Interest Representative.
(F:140.8)(X:60.1)(X:154.1)
City Manager Watenpaugh explained that this item is in response to a request
from LAFCO for a specific representative. He advised that staff would
propose the appointment of Community Development Director Leslie as he
will need to do the research and respond to zoning and planning issues. He
suggested that it would be better to have staff than an elected official at this
point.
Councilwoman Brinley indicated that she saw no problem with staff serving
as the City's representative.
MOVED BY BRINLEY, SECONDED BY ALONGI TO APPOINT
COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR LESLIE TO SERVE AS THE
CITY'S COMMUNITIES OF INTEREST REPRESENTATIVE.
Mayor Pape noted that he has dealt with LAFCO a lot over the last year and
Riverside County-;is the only one in the State with COI's. He indicated that
the COI's were formed purely for political reasons; but noted that LAFCO
was implemented to take the political gamesmanship out of the issues. He
stressed that LAFCO was intended to be impartial and make logical
decisions, but that has not been the situation in Riverside County. He
indicated that it has been a situation of land grabs. He suggested that Mr.
Leslie can exchange information, but stressed the importance of
understanding the position of the Council in doing so.
THE FOREGOING MOTION CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE.
32. Seaport Boat Launch Fundin (F:92.5)
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City Manager Watenpaugh explained this item and noted that the facility was
built through funding from State Boating and Waterways. He corrected the
staff report regarding Park Development Fund, and indicated that it should be
Developer Park Fund. He indicated that it has taken the contractor over 100
days to submit a proposal of final costs, and noted that there is considerable
disagreement, but there are additional dollars needed to address the
consultant work, which is requested not to exceed $10,000. Mayor Pape
questioned how many days over schedule the work was. Mr. Watenpaugh
indicated that it is about 110 days over deadline, and the contractor has
requested an additional 113 days.
City Attorney Leibold suggested that this matter be discussed in closed
session. Councilman Alongi suggested postponing this discussion until after
closed session. Mayor Pape noted that there are two issues, one is the
lawsuit, and the other is the fees required to address the project. Mr.
Watenpaugh stressed the fees and potential need for an expert witness.
Mayor Pape noted that this was more of a cash flow issue, as it is possible the
City will get the money back due to nonperformance. Mr. Watenpaugh
concurred.
Councilman Alongi indicated that he has no problem if that is the bill we have
to pay, but does have a problem approving it without discussion with the City
Attorney in closed session. Councilwoman Brinley questioned if there was a
comfort level with the request. City Attorney Leibold suggested that this be
considered in closed session, with the Council coming back out and
approving the item.
MOVED BY ALONGI, SECONDED BY METZE AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO CONTINUE THIS ITEM TO AFTER CLOSED
SESSION.
33. Resolution No. 97 -59 - Ratifvin,g Documents and Actions Related to Special
Tax Refunding Bonds of the City of Lake Elsinore Community Facilities
Duct No. 88 -3 (West Lake Elsinore). (17:22.3)
City Manager Watenpaugh reminded Council that back in December the
Council, based on recommendation by financial team, adopted Resolution
No. 96 -65. He noted that it has been a longer process to address CFD 88 -3
than was anticipated, but as of yesterday it is a done deal and is very positive
for restructuring of the bonds. He further noted that it is favorable that
institutions purchased all of the bonds to assist with restructuring the debt.
He explained that this item is proposed as ratification of past action by the
Council to assure that the action is still in the realm of what was intended to
be done. He noted that "Jones Hall" has left the financial team and "Quint &
Thimmig" has been added. He commented on the ability to save on interest
rates for the bonds, and recommended approval of the proposed Resolution
with the modifications and changes to the CFD 88 -3 bonds.
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Paul Thimmig, Quint & Thimmig, indicated that he was pleased to say a lot
of hard work paid off; the bonds were well accepted into the market and the
team will now start to rework some of the other pending bond issues. He
advised that the deal did close, and there is forward progress, and the
requested action is the cuhnination of the closure to assure that the technical
items in the deal were addressed. Mayor Pape questioned the expense to the
City. Mr. Thimmig indicated that the entire transaction was financed
internally and paid out of the refunding bonds, with no cost for the closure.
Mayor Pape inquired who makes the payments on the bonds. Mr. Thimmig
indicated that they are paid through the special taxes paid by the property
owners. He fiuther explained that this funds will assist in solving other
problems, while the "B" bonds give the extra punch to collect all of the
delinquencies. Mr. Thimmig indicated that it gives the financial team the
tools to work with the projects and get them back on the paying tax rolls.
Councilman Alongi questioned who serves as the P.F.A. Mr. Thimmig
indicated that it is a separate legal entity created in 1989. Councilman
Alongi inquired who sits as the P.F.A. Mr. Thimmig indicated that the
Council sits as the P.F.A. Councilman Alongi indicated that the City is tied
to this by the agreement, and if these go into default again, the City of Lake
Elsinore is on the line now. Mr. Thimmig indicated that the City is linked
with these bonds in the finance community.
Mayor Pro Tern Kelley noted the Council's commitment to long range
financial planning with Mr. Gunn, and the restructuring of the bond pool. She
indicated that she is pleased and we are proceeding as anticipated. Mr.
Thimmig concurred and noted that this is the largest bond tender situation in
the State, but stressed the long range plan. Councilwoman Brinley, as
Chairwoman of the Public Finance Authority, thanked the financial team for
all of the hard work and stressed the reduced risk for the City or the builder.
She noted that some people are very interested in building in this area. She
expressed personal thanks for Mr. Thimmig's work and for keeping the
Council well informed. Mr. Thimmig noted that this success does take away
some of the unknowns.
Dick Knapp, City- Treasurer, indicated that he wanted to find out the interest
rate for the bonds, and noted he was informed that it was a 7.01% bond rate.
He inquired whether the bonds were insured. Mr. Thimmig indicated that
there is no insurance. Mr. Knapp detailed the bonds which were refinance at
70 cents on the dollar and addressed the overall amount of bonds, and his
understanding of the overall cost. He questioned the difference of 10 or 11
million and whether it would be to satisfy the Abaccy Account and the bond
payers who have not been paying.
Mr. Thimmig indicated that the transaction is highly complicated; and
explained that the bonds are not insured, but insurance would not prevent risk
for the City, as it only addresses the bondholders. He clarified that they were
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able to get the bond holders to tender the bonds at 70 cents on the dollar, with
the realization that their investment did not work out. He concurred that the
Bonds are in a greater amount, but clarified that the series B bonds are held
by the City and if the delinquent parcels pay, the City will get cash flow, or
use the bonds for foreclosure sales. He further concurred that additional
bonds were issued which are all held by the City; but explained that they are
not an obligation for the City, but a tool for new development.. He stressed
the complexity of the program and offered to provide sessions in the
Community to help people understand the process. He indicated that the
bonds have received the blessing of the market, in that all of the bonds were
bought by sophisticated financial institutions. He stressed the importance of
the restructuring.
Mayor Pape inquired based on the previous comments, the impact of further
development. Mr. Thimmig indicated that the City is much better off than a
week ago and reiterated the process of bond tender. He clarified that the
bond holders agreed to take a discount on their bonds, which has occurred in
other areas of Riverside County, with one Agency giving only 33 cents on the
dollar to get out of the funding. Mayor Pape indicated that this an interesting
process and noted a conference in Monterey regarding work -outs in Mello -
Roos financing. He noted that this type of action will be. occurring more
frequently throughout the State. Mr. Thimmig concurred.
Councilman Metze inquired if the long term plans of Mr. Gunn and the
Council are working and benefiting the long term financial picture for the
City. Mr. Thimmig indicated that this transaction helped to position the City
much better to move forward.
MOVED BY METZE, SECONDED BY BRINLEY AND CARRIED BY A
VOTE OF 4 TO -1 WITH ALONGI CASTING THE DISSENTING VOTE TO
ADOPT RESOLUTION NO. 97-59 RATIFYING THE MODIFICATIONS
AND CHANGES MADE PURSUANT TO THE SALE AND CLOSING OF
THE REFINANCE OF CFD NO. 88 -3 BONDS:
RESOLUTION NO. 97-59
A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF
LAKE ELSINORE RATIFYING DOCUMENTS AND ACTIONS
RELATED TO SPECIAL TAX REFUNDING BONDS OF THE CITY.
OF LAKE ELSINORE FOR CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
COMMUNITY FACILITIES DISTRICT NO. 88 -3 (WEST LAKE
ELSINORE), AUTHORIZING THE ISSUANCE OF ADDITIONAL
BONDS, AND APPROVING RELATED ACTIONS.
ITEMS PULLED FROM THE CONSENT CALENDAR
2. Warrant Lists (F:12.3)
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a. July 15, 1997.
b. July 31, 1997.
Dick Knapp, City Treasurer, commented on the previous item and questioned
whether the City would be getting its money back. He noted that the
Investment Report for June was not part of this agenda packet, and he would
like to see one. He detailed the funds and expenditures for the month of July
and indicated that there is still over $2 million for July. He indicated that he
still contends that there is plenty of money to keep the parks open and
stressed that he would like to see the Investment Report for June. Mayor
Pape questioned where the money for the parks should come from. Mr.
Knapp indicated that it should come from the reserves and suggested
jockeying the budget, as it is over funded. He indicated that there is over $2
million which could have kept the parks open. Mayor Pape questioned Mr.
Knapp's logic. Mr. Knapp inquired whether the Mayor could definitely say
there were fund commitments for fires and floods of $2 million; and further
questioned why the parks are not open. Mayor Pape questioned whether Mr.
Knapp had a comfort level with the reserves based on $1.3 million balance.
Mr. Knapp indicated that his is talking about June of 1997, not 1998. He
fiuther indicated that it is possible to chop $1 million out of the existing
budget:
MOVED BY BRINLEY, SECONDED BY METZE AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO RATIFY THE ABOVE LISTED WARRANT
LISTS AS PRESENTED.
3. StopSiign Controlled Intersection - Heald Avenue and Graham Avenue -
Resolution No. 97 -57. (F:162.2)
Councilman Metze indicated that he pulled this item to let the citizens know
that this is' for approval of the requested stop sign.
MOVED BY METZE, SECONDED BY BRINLEY TO ADOPT
RESOLUTION NO. 97 -57:
Dick Knapp, City Treasurer, noted that he brought this item up because,
while he knows it is a $150 sign, he was concerned with the expense of the
traffic engineer. He questioned the cost of the City Engineer studying this
location and why a $100,000 Traffic Engineer was necessary.
THE FOREGOING MOTION CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE.
Councilman Alongi called a point of order, and questioned if the Council was
changing policy regarding conversation with people at the podium. Mayor
Pape indicated they were not.
RESOLUTION NO. 97 -57
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A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF
LAKE ELSINORE DESIGNATING THE LOCATION OF CERTAIN
STOP INTERSECTIONS. (GRAHAM AVENUE/HEALD AVENUE)
4. Disaster Relief Funds - DesigLiation of Authorized Agent - Resolution No
97 -58. (F:74.1)
Councilwoman Brinley requested clarification of this action. City Manager
Watenpaugh indicated that it is a housekeeping item to change from past City
Manager Molendyk to himself, on applications for FEMA refunding.
MOVED BY BRINLEY, SECONDED BY KELLEY AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO ADOPT RESOLUTION NO. 97 -58.
RESOLUTION NO. 97 -58
A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA, DESIGNATING CERTAIN
OFFICIALS AS INDIVIDUALS AUTHORIZED TO EXECUTE
APPLICATIONS AND DOCUMENTS FOR THE PURPOSE OF
OBTAINING FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE UNDER FEDERAL CIVIL
DEFENSE ACT OF 1950 AS AMENDED (PUBLIC LAW 920, 81ST
CONGRESS, 50 USC APP.2251- 2297).
5. Request for Overni hg t Camping at Lakepoint Park. (F:114.4)
Councilman Alongi expressed concerns with this issue; noting that R. V.'s
have propane and gas tanks and this would be within a fenced park. He
further noted the potential for problems with motor homes and only one
entrance into the park, with no fire lanes or fire hydrants. , He noted that he
owns a park and has seen fires and the damage they can cause. He suggested
that it was looking for trouble to allow camping in the fenced area; and
indicated that if the Council wants to move the campers to the parking lot, he
would have no problem.
City Manager Watenpaugh responded that the request is for the RV's in the
parking lot on the hard surface; and there will be no fire allowed. He
explained that the campers would need gray containers with no discharge
allowed in the area. He further explained that the event is in the inlet channel
with additional porta - potties, ongoing supervision, CSO's and Lake Patrol.
He also explained that the request is for approximately 20 R. V.'s and 20
tents; with the tents being on the grass area where they will not interfere with
the sprinkler system. Mayor Pape indicated that there was no way the City
would allow R. W s to park on the grass.
Councilwoman Brinley noted her discussion with Mr. Watenpaugh, and
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indicated that the event will be self contained, but expressed concern with
dumping of gray water. She also expressed concern with the tents in the park
area, and cooking on the grounds. She stressed that there would be no
cooking on site. She noted that there will be CSO's there to patrol and
ensure the event has no problems.
Councilman Alongi indicated that if the Council goes by what was written in
the agenda, it states that Lakepoint Park will be used as a staging area for the
participants and use of motor homes as close as possible. He stressed the
number of campers proposed for the park and his understanding that they
would be in the park.
Mayor Pape noted that he met with staff and received additional information.
City Manager Watenpaugh indicated that the point was well taken.
Councilman Alongi questioned why the correct report was not before him.
City Manager Watenpaugh indicated that staff made the assumption that the
R.V.'s would be in the parking area. Mr. Alongi indicated that the tents
should be in the parking lot as well.
Mayor Pro Tem Kelley noted that this is a regional event and detailed the
dates of the event. She indicated that she had her question clarified with
regard to the parking lot.
MOVED BY BRINLEY, SECONDED BY KELLEY AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO WAIVE LAKE ELSINORE MUNICIPAL CODE
SECTION 8.40.040 (G) AND APPROVE THE REQUEST FROM THE
INTERNATIONAL NOVICE TOUR (INT) TO ALLOW OVERNIGHT
CAMPING AT LAKEPOINT PARK, OCTOBER 23 -25, 1997.
Councilman Alongi indicated that he would support this action, as long as
they are on the parking lot.
THE REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING WAS RECESSED AT 8:07
P.M.
THE REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING RECONVENED AT 8:25
P.M.
6. Request for Approval to Close Main Street for a Special Event. (F:62.1)
Mayor Pape noted that there were last minute changes to this request. City
Manager Watenpaugh explained the request for closure on a portion of Peck
Street rather than Main Street from 4 to 10 p.m. for promotion of a local
singer and her new C.D. He advised that the applicants have completed all
of their paperwork, paid the fees and obtained insurance. He reiterated the
change for the Peck Street Closure rather than Main Street. He advised that
the applicants will provide barricades, two police officers for security and
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porta- potties.
Councilman Alongi questioned this item and indicated that the City should
not be closing off streets for a private business. He fiuther indicated that this
business backs up to a parking lot and it would be easier to control the
situation in the parking event. He stressed that this is a private event and he
would prefer to see it in the parking lot.
Marian Smith, 23895 Oak Circle Drive in Wildomar, applicant, indicated
that in checking the available parking, this request would only be using four
to six parking spaces on Peck Street. She further indicated that use of the
parking lot would interfere with the restaurant parking. She clarified that
only the back room of the facility would be used for a private reception, but .
they are expecting 100 -300 professionals from the record industry and 100 -
200 other guests. She stressed how this event would draw business to the
community, and explained the event as planned. She indicated that "Echo"
would be performing on an hourly basis.
Councilwoman Brinley inquired if Echo grew up in Lake Elsinore. She
indicated that she was raised and schooled here. Mayor Pape inquired if the
downtown stores would remain open for the event. Ms. Smith indicated that
it will depend on this approval, but they have not yet canvassed the
businesses. Mayor Pape noted Item 31 in the request which stated plans for
using volunteer youth groups. Ms. Smith indicated that they have access to a
lot of resources, pending Council approval. Mayor Pape questioned whether
they have appropriate insurance for the event. Ms. Smith indicated that it is
lined up. Mayor Pape inquired whether they have the barricades. Ms. Smith
confirmed. Mayor Pape inquired of Community Services Manager
Edelbrock about the procedures in place to assure clean up after the event.
Ms. Edelbrock indicated that the applicant met with the Special Events
Committee yesterday, and while they have not yet made firm plans for the
clean up the options have been discussed. She indicated that they will be
meeting again, following Council approval. Mayor Pape suggested that
verbiage be included in the motion to ensure necessary clean up
arrangements are in place.
Councilwoman Brinley noted Mr. Jackson's work on other events; and
indicated that she has no concerns about someone being present to address
the trash, noting the $1,000 refundable deposit. She indicated that she finds
this to be a positive event, noting that everyone has used Main Street for
events and it appears the right way to go. She inquired if the performance
would be free to the public. Ms. Smith confirmed. Mrs. Brinley reiterated
that this sounds like a wonderful event, and should not be much of a problem
on Peck Street She encouraged businesses to stay open for the event, and
wished Echo luck with her career. Mayor Pape concurred and expressed
hopes that the businesses would take advantage of the increased traffic to the
area.
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Councilman Metze noted that he has heard Echo and she was terrific. He
stressed that this is a positive event and open to the public. He indicated that
with the refundable deposit he sees no problem.
MOVED BY BRINLEY, SECONDED BY METZE TO APPROVE THE
CLOSURE OF PECK STREET BETWEEN MAIN AND THE ALLEY,
DURING THE HOURS OF 4:00 P.M. TO 10:00 P.M. ON AUGUST 23, 1997,
WITH ASSURANCES THAT THE TRASH CONCERNS HAVE BEEN
ADDRESSED.
Councilman Alongi indicated that the restaurant is closed that time. He
stressed that this is a private affair, and has nothing to do with the citizens of
Lake Elsinore; and indicated that it is closed to the public, with the only
allowance being for guests. Ms. Smith clarified that the back room is for
guests only, but the front of the store is open to the public. Councilman
Alongi indicated that the Agenda says the business is closed and he still sees
a problem with closing the street for a private affair.
Mayor Pro Tem Kelley stressed that this she sees this as a positive event, as
she has also heard Echo. She indicated that she has no problem with closing
Peck Street.
THE FOREGOING MOTION CARRIED BY A VOTE OF 4 TO 1 WITH
ALONGI CASTING THE DISSENTING VOTE.
Echo thanked the Council for this approval.
7. Acceptance of Quitclaim Deeds for Water Rights from Various City Proiects
at 31300 Casino Drive 18461 Dexter Avenue and 16851 Lakeshore Drive.
(F:132.1)
Councilman Alongi indicated that he is opposed to the City forcing people to
give up their water rights. He further indicated that valuable consideration
means they received something and he does not consider a building permit a
valuable consideration. He also indicated that the City does not have a water
system to protect and noted that E.V.M.W.D. is not receiving the Deeds
from the City, and questioned the use of the deeds. He reiterated that he
opposes this type of action and the taking of rights for public property.
City Manager Watenpaugh noted that this action is pursuant to City policy in
place since prior to sale of the water district. He advised that the City
continues to accept them to prevent people from drilling wells, but if the
Council wants to change the policy, staff could investigate.
MOVED BY KELLEY, SECONDED BY BRINLEY TO ACCEPT THE
QUIT CLAIM DEEDS FOR WATER RIGHTS FROM 31300 CASINO
DRIVE, 18461 DEXTER AVENUE AND 16851 LAKESHORE DRIVE; AND
AUTHORIZE THE CITY CLERK TO RECORD THE DOCUMENTS.
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Councilman Alongi indicated, not to contradict the City Manager, but this
policy came into being after the sale of the water district; as these were not
collected when the City owned the water district. He expressed concern
with holding up the rights of residents to drill water on their property.
THE FOREGOING MOTION CARRIED BY A VOTE OF 4 TO 1 WITH
ALONGI CASTING THE DISSENTING VOTE.
8. Acceptance of Quitclaim Deeds for Street Right -of -Way from Various City
Projects at 16851 Lakeshore Drive and 31300 Casino Drive. (17:132.1)
MOVED BY KELLEY, SECONDED BY BRINLEY AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO ACCEPT THE GRANT DEEDS FOR STREET
RIGHT -OF -WAY ON 16851 LAKESHORE DRIVE AND 31300 CASINO
DRIVE; AND AUTHORIZE THE CITY CLERK TO RECORD THE
DOCUMENTS.
PUBLIC COMMENTS - NON- AGENDIZED ITEM
Jeannie Corral, CAP Parade Committee, extended an invitation to attend a parade to
celebrate the youth in the community. She explained that this idea was generated
from the CAP Conference and stated that she has submitted a tentative plan to
Community Services for the parade route. She noted that the parade is scheduled
for Saturday, November 1 st at 9:15 beginning and ending at Elsinore Middle
School. She further explained that they hope to put unit back into unity and will be
celebrating the accomplishments of the children. She stated that this will be a foot
parade and they will be using the School Resource Officers to assist with the
policing.
Larry Cossak, School and Community Improvement Committee, stated that the main
purpose of the parade is to celebrate the great things young people have done in the
school and indicated that it will honor the accomplishments of the students both
academically and in the arts. He stated that they would like to give the public the
opportunity to see what they have accomplished and how well the schools are
functioning.
Mariana Mohylyn, 305 W. Sumner commented on the need to have safe sidewalks
and stated the need to open the parks for the children. She stated that she feels that
the water mineral rights belong to the individual property owner.
Nita Van Heist, indicated that no one gets a straight answer from four of the
Councilmembers. She commented on the ownership of the Stadium and indicated
that technically we did not own the land until the grant deed is recorded. She
presented a copy of the contract with the Storm team and commented on the costs of
the stadium. She stated that she has never seen anything so lopsided. She noted the
term of the contract and suggested that we demand fiscal responsibility and hoped
that four of the Council would be gone in November.
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Carol Miller, noted that she has a lot of social contracts with people in Lake
Elsinore and there is a lot of upset people in the City. She asked that the Council
consider doing a simulcast of Council Meetings in Spanish.
Chris Hyland, 15191 Wavecrest, stated that there is money to keep the parks open
and if the Council did not spend money frivolously there would be enough money.
She addressed supplies and services from out of the area and noted a bill for
business cards for Dick Watenpaugh and for Ron Molendyk who is supposed to
have resigned. She stated that she has taken the business card to three printers
detailed the cost quoted by each business. She stated that the printer that the City
used is in Fallbrook and she felt that we should keep the money in town. She
indicated that the City paid Auto Club dues for Mr. Molendyk and purchased a
computer from a company with no address or telephone number and further
indicated that others would have sold it for much less. She noted the electric bill for
the park lighting and stated that something is very wrong and feels that it is unjust
since the City gave paradise Chevrolet $300,000 and they gave the concrete
business to an outside contractor. She stressed that if developers are given money,
they should use local business.
Marian Segletta, commented that it is very difficult for her to speak about things
which she is passionate about such as the children and their rights. She expressed
concern with the funding for fencing and signage and noted that there used to be
places for the children to play, however not anymore. She noted that her
neighborhood is turning into a ghetto and asked that Council find peaceful solutions
to the problems. She stressed that there are a majority of working parents that live
in the City and they need places for the children to go. She stressed that there are
buildings that are empty and suggested that the Council needs to network more with
the community to provide for the children.
Lee Allen, 270 Avenue 9, has been in town almost 30 years and stated that in all .
that time he has seen no improvements in City Councils who feel that they can treat
the public like children and do not provide anything for the public. He stated that
Council should be more in tune with what the public wants, rather than what they
want. He commented that if the Council could find the money to fence the parks,
then they could have found money to keep the parks open. He questioned why the
Council would expect the citizens to give them money, when they do not handle
those funds appropriately. He stressed the need to get out and vote and don't throw
good money after bad.
Linda Nanette, asked if it were possible for the Council to publish in the Sun
Tribune what money has been spent from the City's coffers. She stated that she
understands that a printout is available at City Hall, however many citizens don't
have the opportunity to do so. She stated that she would not like to see the
breakdown mailed because of the cost. She stated that with a monthly financial
report published in the local paper, the people of the City would be more willing to
accept a tax increase because they would know how their money is spent and gives
ordinary people an understanding of necessary expenditures.
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James Grey, Mimosa Drive, noted his long term goals for himself and his family.
He indicated that one of the biggest crisis facing this country today is the breakdown
of the family. He commended the people who have been married for 50 years or .
more and stated that we could all learn something from their example. He noted
that families choose Lake Elsinore with the intent of making this City their long term
home and he feels that if everyone works together, then the right choices will be
made for the common good. He felt that closing the parks was a crime. He stated
that he is running as a fiscal conservative and will promote discipline spending. He
asked that Council not wait until November to start working toward a common goal.
He motioned that the fences come down at all parks and water be restored.
Donna Scharff, addressed parks as serious investments and stressed that people
want funding to open and operate parks as a top priority by this Council tonight.
She indicated that the current funding will be depleted by two Council Meetings
from tonight and she does not doubt that they will be closed. She questioned if the
public realizes that the Council was willing to incur million in public property
damage and asked how the community will pay for it and asked if they were
planning to assess the community or pull it from the reserves. She indicated that
people should not forget the money that was spent on fencing that would have kept
the parks open until November to allow the youth sports. She commented on the,
meeting that was held by her and gave an overview of the comments that were
given. She indicated that the City has great potential, however there are many
people that are offended by Council's actions. She questioned what will happen if a
measure is not approved in November and noted that due to the financial and
political climate of the City, people are just fed up. She stated that no one can win
and all will loose in November. She indicated that there is $1.3 million in reserves
and stated that she has only one question and that is what were they going to do
with the money to fix the parks.
Councilman Alongi called for a point of order. Ms. Scharff indicated that she had
completed her comments.
Dale Hite, noted that his name will not appear on the ballot in November, however.:
this will not prevent him from being heard. He stressed the need for citizens to see,
what is going on in the City. He noted that he had been pulled over by police the
night after he spoke at a Council Meeting and questioned whether it was
coincidence or retribution. He stated that he was appalled at the attitude of the
officers toward concerned citizens. He noted a bike theft at gun point in front of
Circle K and gave an overview of the officers attitude. He suggested the need for a
Police Commission to police the police. He commented that it is time to reinstate
the trust in local government officials and is time for a changing of the guard on the
Council. He suggested a vigilante committee to protect the children. He stated that
he does not believe that Council wants to keep the parks open. He stressed the
communities investment is the future of the City.
Edith Stafford, Elm Street, indicated that the Mayor is very rude. She noted that
some people are give the right to speak up to 15 minutes while he has others
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removed just as soon as their 3 minutes are up. She suggested that the Mayor resign
and get out of the kitchen. She expressed the opinion that the closure of the parks
was used as a campaign tactic which is being used to get the Measures in November
passed. She stated that if the water is turned off long enough the trees and grass
will be dead. She stressed that too many people know the truth and they know that
this Council is holding out to spend the money. She stated that the fencing is a
liability because the children will start climbing them and the parks would be better
off without them. She stressed that the Mayor should not be rude since it is his job
to listen to each speaker whether he likes what they say or not. She stressed that the
parks should be opened to prevent liability for children in the streets.
Ava Swain commented that she is a new homeowner with two questions. She noted
that she pays Mello -Roos and asked the Mayor if support of the parks was placed
back in the General Fund would it be necessary to tax the homeowners. She asked
Councilwoman Brinley that if the Measure does not pass in November, what is the
plan.
Harriet Boyd, asked the City Attorney who was responsible for the Mello-Roos..
She stressed her lack of understanding and noted her emotional concern regarding
the closure of the parks. She asked how she could assist is opening the parks. She
commented on the condition of the parks today in comparison to the past and
commented on the hazard of the fenced parks. She stated that she knows that the
water is on, however it is not enough. She stressed her upset over the parks and
requested consideration of the amount of Mello -Roos she is paying.
Calvin Bob, 806 Napa Court, stated that he is also a new resident of Lake Elsinore
and was at the same meeting as Mrs. Boyd. He stated that he represents the new
citizens of Lake Elsinore and they are very concerned about the parks just as the
long term residents are. He stated that they are willing to do whatever it takes to get
the parks opened. He further stated that parks open on a limited basis are not
enough and will not work for the parents or the children. He noted that quite a few
people are upset with the Council because they feel that Council is holding them
hostage. He asked if Council is willing to work with members of the community
and to look at the budget and work out a resolution to the problem. He stated that
the only other option is to vote in a new Council in November. Mr. Bob stated that
no one in the City is comfortable with the situation and everyone is very emotional.
He noted a neighbor who was out advising the residents of this meeting and was
nearly attacked. He stressed the well being of the people and the parks is a big
issue and advised that he and others are here for the long haul.
CITY MANAGER COMMENTS
City Manager Watenpaugh commented that the newspaper awarded the City with a
rose for finding a nonconfrontational resolution to the outlaw boat races. He noted
that the individuals that were involved were told that if they wished to go through
the processes that the City would be glad to see the races. City Manager
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Watenpaugh stated that in the future he would like to see a section for City Attorney
Comments and he deferred to City Attorney Leibold for her comments.
City Attorney Leibold stated that she had one housekeeping item. She noted that at
the last Council Meeting staff was authorized to proceed with a contract for
janitorial services and this was done through special provisions of the State Public
Contract Code, subsequently she has reviewed those provisions as well as the City
Municipal Code and have found alternative authority to fulfil the same direction of
the City Council without the requirement to come forward with a resolution. She
noted that was the reason why there was not a separate resolution presented for that
issue.
Mayor Pape asked the City Attorney to comment on the ownership of the Diamond
Stadium. City Attorney Leibold clarified that there is more than one way to convey
real property and noted that the conveyance that took place several years ago,
legally vested title in the City. The grant deed that was recently recorded
reconfirms that conveyance and makes the ownership and title of the property a
point of legal record, however title did legally transfer some years ago. Mayor Pape
noted that the City had title insurance on the property and asked what effect that
has. City Attorney Leibold stated that it insures that the City has valid and legal title
to the property. Councilwoman Brinley requested clarification. City Attorney
Leibold stated that title insurance insures that the City has valid title.
CITY COUNCIL COMMENTS
Mayor Pro Tem. Kelley commented on the following:
1. Thanked the School District for the CAP Conference in Palm Springs
and made note of the committees and programs which came from that
conference. She stated that this is the 3rd or 4th year that she has
attended and stressed the benefits of the committees.
2. Asked the City Manager to address the questions regarding the
computer, lights and cement. City Manager Watenpaugh noted that the
computer was purchased following a staff committee which met to
establish an Internet page for the City. He noted that staff went
through a variety of agencies and the Air Quality District provided the
funding to purchase the computer and the software. He noted that the
City wrote the check, however the funding came from outside the City.
He addressed the parks lights and stated that the electrician removed
the magnetic switches due to a problem with groups using the lights.
He explained the required adjustments and costs. He further addressed
the cement and the issue of buying outside the City and noted that we
must follow the required bid process and the City cannot mandate that
it be City businesses only. He further stated that we can suggest and
encourage that developers keep the money in the community and
support local businesses, however we cannot mandate it.
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3. Stated that she felt that putting a financial report in the local paper was
a good idea and will be looked into. She stated that she has already
talked to someone in the Sun Tribune about posting the Agendas and
give the public an idea what will be addressed by Council.
4. Concurred with Mr. Gray regarding the importance of families and
long term marriages.
5. Addressed Mrs. Boyd regarding Mello -Roos and clarified that the fees
are a vehicle for the developer to install infrastructure in the
development. She stated that the money does not come to the City.
She stated that the Mello -Roos is a way to put in the infrastructure and
lower the cost of the homes to assist in qualification for purchase.
Councilman Alongi commented on the following:
L Concurred that bonds are difficult to explain, however it does not lower
the cost of homes. He noted that the cost of the infrastructure
increases the cost of the house, however it does reduce the
qualification requirements. He indicated that the homeowner will pay
about 30% more for infrastructure.
2. Addressed title insurance policies and noted his personal experience
with a lien which took two years in court to clean up. He stated that it
does offer a measure of protection, however it is not absolute.
3. Addressed the boat races and stated that he is tired of the law abiding
citizens going without a service because of those who do not follow the
rules. He stated that the rules should not be changed for the crooks.
4. Addressed the $50,000 for trash collection at the ball field. He stated
that CR & R does not charge the City for the trash collection at the ball
filed, however it does cost CR & R $50,000 a year to collect the trash
at the ball field and that does directly affect the citizens rates due to the
impact that it has on services that could be provided to Senior Citizens
rates or monies donated to parks or some other service instead. He
stated that the ball field needs to pay for trash pick up themselves since
they generate the trash, they should be responsible for it.
5
Commented on the cement from Elsinore Ready Mix. He stated that
the reason that we are supposed to invest in these ventures is to bring
jobs to our community and to give business to the local merchants. He
indicated the advantage since the City also profits from the sales tax
which supports our services. He stated that staff does not suggest that
the developer use local businesses, but rather we tell them to use local
businesses or go on down the road.
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6. Addressed the street closure. He stated that there is a difference
between a public and private venture and noted that closing the streets
for a parade is completely different than closing the streets for a private
venture since a private venture is for their gain and their profit.
7. Stated that he is surprised with the attitude of one of the Council since
her interest is with the development of children's minds. He felt that
she would be concerned about their safety as well.
8.. Addressed the recall efforts and stated that each individual should read
the recall petitions to be sure of what you are signing. He cautioned
the public not to listen to the rhetoric and if the public has a question,
then call the Council and ask, and if the answer you'receive is not in
agreement with your thoughts, then go and sign the petition.
9. Addressed the Sun Tribune and stated that they are whiners. He noted
that he can tell who they will support in November. He stated that if
two of the people who are running for Council are elected, then the
parks will be opened and they will be opened indefinitely. He
indicated that the City Manager does what the Council tells him to do...
He read the editorial and stressed that the paper is responsible for
fractionalizing the community. He indicated that it does make a
difference who sits on Council.
10. Made note of letters he has received regarding the parks and explained
that the Council needs to step back and see what it takes to open the
parks. He noted that the fences can stay up, but now spend the money
to keep the parks open.
11. Commented on the grand plans that are placed before Council and then
when they are placed on an Agenda, we receive a letter requesting a
postponement for 30 days. He stated that before they approach
Council they should put their money where their mouth is.
12. Commented on the point of order at the podium and stated that the City
Council Policy dictates any Councilmember can yield the floor to the
speaker. He stated that if Council doesn't want to abide by the City
Council Policy, then change it. He indicated that the City Treasurer
should have time on the agenda and stressed that we are paying him to
do a job; he is an elected official; and the public is entitled to hear what
he has to say whether it is right or wrong.
13. Announced that "More Than Three Minutes" will be back on the air
Thursday, August 28. He stated that he has had requests for a Spanish
parlor program, however Media One does not have the technology to
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do that but he will arrange for an interpreter.
15. Noted that the City is looking for drivers for water trucks and there will
have to be a test for driving the tank trucks and a California Drivers
License is required. City Manager Watenpaugh stated that the driver
will need to have a tank certification on his drivers license.
Councilman Alongi stated that this is being asked as a community
service to assist with the parks until financing is straightened out.
Councilman Metze commented on the following:
1. Offered to meet with Mrs. Boyd after the Meeting and stated that he
would be glad to talk to her or get information for her.
2. Stated that he felt that it was an outstanding idea to put a financial
report in the newspaper.
3. - Would like to see a Town Hall Meeting to present our financing plan
and would like to see our finance team present this to the public. He
stated that he felt that a Meeting would benefit the public and help
them to understand.
4. Commended Wal -Mart for their efforts to help support the parks. He
stated that they have planned a Carnival on Labor Day Weekend and
buttons as well as all the other activities and businesses that are getting
involved with them. He stated that the City need lots of help with the
parks.
5. Read a memorandum from Senator Ray Haynes he received this week
regarding Proposition 218 and the policy brief on the Education
Revenue Augmentation. He Po*.ed the shift of County and City Funds
to education and indicated that the fiuiding is not enough and 10 years
is too long. He stressed that people need to call their legislators at a
higher level rather than just at the local level. He further stressed the
need to tell them to give our money back. He stated that Council is
taking the heat for the other agencies and stressed the amount of money
that the City is loosing to the State. He noted that they have admitted
that they did take some fiords away from the City.
Councilwoman Brinley commented on the following:
1. Thanked Mr. Glum and Associates for refinancing for the bonds and
stressed this was a tough issue to work out for the financial program.
2. Thanked Jeanie Corral for taking time to discuss the CAP parade to
celebrate the achievements of our children.
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3. Addressed Linda and noted that she has never done anything with spite
or malice toward any children. She noted that in Measure BB as well
as the new Measure she had asked to include an annual financial
statement on how the money is spent. She further noted that it was at
Council's suggestion that the Citizens Task Force be put in place to
oversee the funds as well. She stressed the that there will be a menu of
services that the voter can select from in November. She noted that
when Proposition 218 was passed by the voters there was a lot of
confusion over the impacts that 218 would create and it did not leave
enough time for cities to address the impact and decide what to do.
She explained that not one person wanted to close the parks and that
Council and the community need to work together. She stated that she
would be working hard for the upcoming measure. ; She concurred that
Council should be accountable and stressed that they will keep
working for a solution.
4. Addressed Mello -Roos and stressed that the City was a conduit for the
developer to use and it is the choice of the developer. She fu rther w
stressed the legal right of the developer. She stated that the Mello -
Roos Assessment should have been disclosed at the time of the
purchase of the home. She concurred that it builds the parks, but they
are turned over to the City for maintenance. She pointed out that
Measure BB was for park maintenance, however the measure failed
and that is why Council is now working on a menu for the November
election.
5. Addressed Mr. Gray and indicated that public safety has always been a
priority and the City has never taken away from those services. She
noted crime reduction in recent years and stressed their achievements.
6. Noted that she has listed to Mrs. Scharff and commented on the
meeting in her home. She stated that she takes grave offense to
comments that the Council doesn't care. She explained the reserves for
the coming fiscal year and stressed that it is only $1.3 million. She
noted the pending lawsuits in the courts and explained that if we should
loose or settle we would have to go to the reserves to pay since they
are not budgeted items. She further noted the potential for an
emergency and highlighted past events. She commented on past fires,
and their related costs. She stressed that it is the Council's
responsibility to the community as a whole.
7. Noted that the parks are open right now at a 50% level and that they
are being watered and mowed, however there is no organized sports at
this time. She stated that the children have access to the play
equipment and the only prohibition is against organized sports. She
commented that there is a book available at City hall regarding the
impact of Proposition 218 and noted that the County is just now
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addressing the necessary cut backs. She expressed her understanding
of the frustration and anger of the citizens and noted that her children
played in the same parks. She stressed the need for volunteers to help
with the water trucks and the need for help with the education of the
community regarding the menus of the new measures. She noted that it
is vital that the community know what is going on.
8. Stressed that the citizens be careful when signing recall papers and
stated that they should call for the correct information. She noted that
recalls are based on negative issues no matter who is doing them
9. She pointed out that this Council has had a lot of hard decisions to
make and has had to make some very tough ones to get the City back
on the road of financial stability. She stated that Council needs the
community to work with them.
Mayor Pape commented on the following:
1. Commented on a Cal -Trans news release on the closure of Highway 74
between lake Elsinore and Perris with 30 minute delays, Monday
through Friday, 8:00 a.m. to 4:00 p.m.
2. Addressed the computer system and software that the City received
through a grant awarded by the AQMD. He noted that is interesting
how someone could make it sound like a negative issue. He further
noted a news story on staffs efforts to develop the program.
3. Commented on the Community of Interest issues. He stated that
Wildomar may become a City in the future and there is some logic to
address it, however he noted that a COI is not really necessary to
prevent annexation. -
4. Stated that he was asked to advertise that there are going to be buttons
for "Adopt a Park" this weekend. He stated that a committee was
formed and they have met with staff to address the park issues. He
gave recognition to Don Summers, Rick Kunstel and Sherrie Kunstel,
Venus Printing who put together the effort with the buttons and every
dollar that they raise will go for maintenance of the parks. Mayor Pape
emphasized that the fiill dollar will go to the parks. He stressed the
contributions of those individuals. He further stated that buttons will
be available this weekend for $1 each and detailed the locations to
obtain them. He stressed the need for support of this program and
stated that this is a move toward a solution.
5. Noted the comments in the newspaper from people who do not support
the measures and stated that they do not want a solution, only for the
City to spend money and not solve the major problems that the City
faces.
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6. Commented on the conference session regarding Proposition 218 and
stated that the measures that passed in other cities occurred because
there was a unified Council which said the same things. He noted that
we started out that way, but flip flopped a couple of weeks later. He
cautioned the public to look hard and long at who is providing accurate
information and who is playing politics and expressed his disgust with
the way it happens. He stated that we need to look at solutions and
find a way to solve problems.
7. Stated that it is not necessary to climb over fences since access points
to the parks have been provided. He concurred that it is a difficult
situation and no one likes it, which more than justifies working
together. I _.
8. Expressed his appreciation to Councilman Alongi for his reminder
regarding the need for volunteers for the water trucks. He noted that
there is no cost for the water since it comes from the City's sulphur
water well.
9. Noted the inaccuracies of the fliers being distributed and stressed that it
is vary misleading. He stated that we need to put aside all of the angry
discussion and political rhetoric.
10. Stated that people in the community need to volunteer and get the word
out regarding the election. He Stressed the need for a funding source
for the parks.
11. Expressed his pleasure at seeing the Sun Tribune stand up and lay it on
the line with the editorial on recall and parks problems. He noted that
it has been clearly stated that the City will not be able to bring back the
parks without some other cost to public services. He stated that the
city does not have a finite amount of money and the revenue sources
continue to decline. She stressed the cuts to staff and programs.
CLOSED SESSION
a. Conference with Legal Counsel - Anticipated Litigation.
b. Conference with Real Property Negotiator - Lake Elsinore..Dia none Stadiiun X
- City/TMC /Storm - Discussion of Terms of Proposed Transfer, Including
without limitation Price and Terms of Payment.
City Attorney Leibold advised that there are three potential cases to discuss under
54956.9 and one real case under 54956.8; and noted that at the conclusion of the
Closed Session she would make the necessary announcements and the Council will
still need to address the Seaport Boat Launch.
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THE REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING WAS ADJOURNED TO
CLOSED SESSION AT 10:20 P.M.
THE REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING RECONVENED AT 11:46
P.M., WITH THE FOLLOWING ANNOUNCEMENT.
City Attorney Leibold announced that the City Council gave unanimous
direction to the City Attorney and negotiating team to pursue negotiations on
the Diamond Stadium. She further announced that direction was provided on
two cases of anticipated litigation. She advised that Councilman Alongi was
excused from the Closed Session for the third case, with the remaining four
Councilmembers directing Legal Counsel to proceed with that case of
anticipated litigation.
32. Seaport Boat Launch Fundine.
MOVED BY METZE, SECONDED BY BRINLEY AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO APPROVE THE TRANSFER OF $129289.16
FROM THE DEVELOPER AGREEMENT FEES AND AUTHORIZE
STAFF TO PAY THE OUTSTANDING INVOICES; AUTHORIZE NOBLE
CONSULTANTS TO PROCEED WITH THE RESOLUTION OF THE
CLAIM AND THAT STAFF WILL TRANSFER THE NECESSARY FUNDS
TO PAY FOR THE SERVICE, NOT TO EXCEED $10,000 FROM THE
DEVELOPER AGREEMENT FEES.
ADJOURNMENT
MOVED BY METZE, SECONDED BY PAPE AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO ADJOURN THE REGULAR CITY COUNCIL
MEETING AT 11:48 P.M.