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HomeMy WebLinkAbout05-27-1997 City Council Minutes-~~_ MINUTES REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE 183 NORTH MAIN STREET ~. LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA , ~ ,, ;, , TUESDAY, MAY 27,1997 *~*~*****~***~*~**~**~~,~~,~~~~,~~~*~~~~*~**~~*~~*,~,**,~*,~**~*,~*,~*** CALL TO ORDER The Regular City Council Meeting was called to order by Mayor Pape at 7:05 p.m. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE The Pledge of Allegiance was led by City Manager Molendyk. ROLL CALL PRESENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: ALONGI, BRINLEY, KELLEY,PAPE ABSENT: COUNGILMEMBERS: METZE Also present were: City Manager Molendyk, Assistant City Manager Watenpaugh, City Attorney Harper, Administrative Services Director Boone, Community Development Director Leslie, Community Services Director Sapp, Police Cluef Walsh, Fire Chief Seabert, Assistant to the City Manager Best, Building & Safety Manager Russell, City Engineer O'Donnell and City Clerk Kasad. PRESENTATION A. Presentation - CREW Team. Representative Not Present. B. Presentation - Volunteers - Hammerhead Area Clean-u~. (F:127.2) Police Cluef Walsh explained this program and the work of the volunteers. He noted that a total of nine dumpsters were filled and taken away. Mayor Pape presented Certificates of Appreciation to the Explorer Scout Volunteers. C. Presentation - Sphere of Influence Adjustment (F:154.1) Community Development Director Leslie delineated the current City limits and sphere of influence. He detailed the recent change in the Sphere of Influence; and explained the overall intent of a sphere of influence and the factors which aze considered. He noted that the sphere of influence is a useful planning tool and stressed that annexations are not automatic. He further noted that there have been no recent applications for annexations. He explained the Local Agency Formation Commission and the geographical PAGE TWO - CITY COUNCIL MINUTES - MAY 27, 1997 divisions. He further explained that the Riverside County LAFCO has recently adopted the designation of "Community of InteresY', which are now in place on certain unincorporated areas in the County. He advised that this designation allows two years with extensions to study themselves and evaluate options; which can be followed by an "Unincorporated Community" designation for at least a five year period. He further advised that there are now five communities of interest surrounding the City. He explained that recenfly Menifee Va11ey and Wildomar have been granted "Unincorporated Community" status. He further explained that both areas partially overlap the City Sphere of Influence; and have removed 1.4 square miles and 16.4 square miles respectively; impacting approximately 27% of the Sphere. - d. Measure BB advertisement. (F:72.2) Diane Samones, representing The Californian, apologized to the City Council, supporters of Measure BB and the citizens of Lake Elsinore, noting the advertisement which stated that it was paid for by the City of La1ce Elsinore, rather than the Yes on BB committee. She advised that the City nor the committee were involved in causing the error or confusion, as it was clearly her error and a misunderstanding. She detailed the events leading to the mispublication, and noted that it is fully documented that a portion of the advertisement was omitted. She again apologized for the confusion and stressed that the paper has no position on the measure and this was no reflection on the opinion of the paper. She indicated that the advertisement would appear correctly tomorrow and include a retraction article stating what occurred and stating that the Californian was responsible. She further indicated that there would also be an editorial providing the details and clarify the misunderstanding. Mayor Pape reiterated the details of the situation as presented; and indicated that it was refreshing to see the situation corrected and resolved. He noted a letter from the Jarvis Crroup and advised that they had been in contact with City Attomey Harper, who responded and they seem satisfied that it was an error on the paper's part. e. U~date on Measure BB.(F:72.2) Assistant to the City Manager Best provided a brief recap of the upcoming election on Measure BB, and an overview of the town ha11 meetings. She responded to questions which have arisen as part of the Town Hall Meetings. She stressed that Proposition 218 changed the ability to collect funds for park maintenance, and detailed the anticipated budget for next year if the measure does not pass. She detailed the cost of Measure BB and the overall increase per household and other types of development. She further detailed the programs to be addressed by the funds. She noted that if the measure does not pass, there has been a request that the City look at what might go on the ballot in November; and in the meantime the parks would be closed and other services would be eliminated or reduced. She also noted the cost to reestablish parks after a closure. She advised that the information line at City PAGE THREE = CITY COUNCIL MINUTES - MAY 27,:1997 Hall is still operating to provide factual information on Measure BB and can be accessed by calling 674-3124 ext. 209. PUBLIC COMMENTS - AGENDIZED ITEMS Requests were received to address the following items and deferred to those discussions: Item Nos. 4, 33 and 34. CON5ENT CALENDAR ITEMS The following items were pulled from the Consent Calendar for further discussion and consideration: Item Nos. 3, 4 and 5. MOVED BY BRINLEY, SEGONDED BY KELLEY AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO APPROVE THE BALANCE OF T~IE CONSENT CALENDAR AS PRESENTED. 1. The following Minutes were approved: a. Regular City Council Meeting - May 6, 1997 (F:44.4) The following Minutes were received and ordered filed: b. Plasuiing Commission Meeting - May 7, 1997 (F:60.3) c. Design Review Coxnmittee Meeting - May 7, 1997 (F:60.4) 2; , Ratified Warrant List - May 15, 1997. (F:12.3) 6. Adopted Resolution No. 97-25 concurring with the proposed Expansion of Riverside County Transportation Commission (RCTC) and supporting the necessary legislation to accommodate the changes. (F:140.19) RESOLUTION NO. 97-25 A RESOLUTION OF T~IE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA, ENDORSING THE REORGANIZATION OF THE MEMBERSHIP OF THE RIVERSIDE COUNTY TRANSPORTATION COMMISSION. 7. Approved letters of support for Continental Cablevision relating to broadcasting via sateliites in lieu of cable; and authorized the Mayor to send the requested letters. , (F:170.5) PAGE FOUR = CITY. COUNCIL MINUTES - MAY 27, 1997 8. Approved Public Hearing date of June 10,' 1997, for the following: a. Snecific Plan 89-2 Amendment No 3- Horizon (F:150.2) A request to amend the Alberhill Ranch Specific Plan to: (1) provide additional phases of oudet center uses as an extension of the e~usting Lake Elsinore Outlet Center located along Collier Avenue across the I- 15 Freeway, (2) continue providing general commercial uses, and (3) continue providing open space. The 202-acre project site is located north of I-15 and is bisected by Nichols Road. b. Tentarive Parcel Man 28552 - MCE Consi~ltants (Pararli~Q C'hevroletl. (F:110.2) ~ ~ A request to subdivide approximately 10 gross acres into two parcels. Parcel 1 will be approximately 6 acres (auto dealership) and Parcel2 will be approximately 4 acres (future commercial). This site is located at 31400 Casino Drive, between Diamond Drive and Franlclin Street, Negative Declaration 96-4 addresses any environmental impacts associated with this proposal. PUBLIC HEARINGS None. APPEALS 21. ~peal of Stn,ch~re Abatement Action at 283 North Mai_n Street. (F:32.4) Mayor Pape noted a request for continuance of this item. Building & Safety Manager Russell noted that this properly was entered into abatement due to substandard conditions on the property: He explained that - the owner is seeking a report by a Structural Engineer on these buildings; and with that report pending he is unable to complete the evaluation at this time. He further explained that this item was an effort to keep the appeal process open to the owner. Mayor Pape noted the eacisting health and safety hazards, and inquired whether there were any problems with waiting to proceed. Mr. Russell indicated that the properly has been in this condition for quite some time, and while he can not be certain of the extent of the problems at this time, there should be no problem waiting. Mayor Pape inquired how many similar problems e~cist around the community at present. Mr. Russell indicated that there are approacimately 15 or 16 around the City pending funding; and a tremendous amount of problem structures not yet - identified. - MOVED BY BRINLEY, SECONDED BY ALONGI AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO CONTINUE THIS PAGE FIVE - CITY COUNCIL MINUTES - MAY 27, 199,7< .: APPEAL TO JUN~ 24, 1997, TO ALLOW TIME TO REVIEW REPORTS, DOCUMENTS AND ANY OTHER PERTINENT INFORMATION ON THIS MATTER. BUSINESS ITEMS 31. Library ZAB A,~~ointment. (F:98.1) Gity Manager Molendyk explained this item relates to a long standing agreement with regard to management of the library system. He noted the ongoing reevaluation of services at present; and the request for a Council representative to serve on the Zone Advisory Board. MOVED BY PAPE, SECONDED BY ALONGI AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO APPOINT MAYOR PRO TEM KELLEY TO THE ZONE ADVISORY BOARD AND DIRECTED STAFF TO NOTIFY THE COUNTY OF HER SELECTION. 32. Televised Cite CouncilMeeting~.(F:44.1) City Manager Molendyk explained that Council Meetings have been televised for a number of years and recently there has been the feeling that they are not being used for the original purpose of passing on information and education for the Community. Mayor Pro Tem Kelley noted that she requested the presence of Cheryl Smith, who is present at this meeting. She noted that this item was requested as a result of the recent profanity experienced during a City Council Meeting. She further noted that this is but one of the problems which have been menrioned recently; and suggested that there would be less grandstanding and the Council meetings would not be used as a campaign platform. She also noted that the Senior Citizens want it to remain on television because they can not always get out to attend the meetings. She indicated that she was not sure of the position her colleagues would take on this matter, but suggested opening a line of discussion on the issue. She suggested that with regard to the interference on the sound system it either needs to be left as it is or have a new system installed. She suggested discussion and requested input from the other Councilmembers. Mayor Pape indicated that he had quesrions of Cheryl Smith; and questioned if similar actions have occurred in other areas and requested information on Viewership: Ms. Smith indicated that they have never been in the posifion of terminating television coverage of Council Meetings and commented that they have no hard data on viewership in Lake Elsinore, although she knows it to be very high in other communities. Councilman Alongi quest}oned the availability of equipment to prevent the ~ ~... ,:-1m PAGE SIX - CITY COUNGIL MINUTES - MAY 27,1997 : interference. Ms. Smith indicated that she did not believe there was equipment to'correct the problems with the current sound system. Councilman Alongi inquired if they could provide a sound system to'prevent the interference. Ms. Smith indicated that she was not swe it was technically possible, but offered to check on the options. Councilwoman Brinley noted that it is sad to have to be concerned for the language and comments which interfere with the broadcast, and concurred that it is worthy of discussion. She further noted that she has received comments indicating that the meetings should be taken offthe air, making the issue a double edged sword. She noted efforts to control the professionalism -~ of the meeting, in contrast with the requests from Senior Citizens that it remain on the air. She commented that the meetings are a way for residents ~ to be kept informe.d, but suggested that the Council consider taldng it off the air temporarily to allow for upgrade of the system or correction of the problem, She indicated that she can see both sides of the issue and suggested that televising of the meetings be discontinued in the short term until the sound system can be replaced. Edith Stafford addressed the Council with regard to the Assistant Manager and the Brown Act. She indicated that there is nothing regarding Measure BB listed on the agenda, and the public was not offered a chance to speak on the issue. Mayor Pape indicated that there is time during public comments. Ms. Stafford suggested that the Council only wants to take the meeting off the - air and is finding every excuse and way to use the Measure BB funds for uses other than the intended uses. She suggested that there was a circumvention of ° the process established by Proposition 218. She indicated that the Council wants to take the meeting off the air so the public will not be informed, that they are giving the t~payers money away. She noted that the law allows individuals to bring videos into public meetings to get the information out. She indicated that videos would be done for the protection of the residents. Chris Hyland noted the comments on grandstanding, and indicated that is -• what the Council does. She indicated that they want to lude what the Council is doing from the public. She noted calls received this date, two of which were from a committee to recall Councilmembers. She suggested that to stop airing the meetings would deny people the right to view the actions of Councilmembers; who make rules and regulations no one can live by and spend the money inappropriately. Cheryl Smith noted that she has had a discussion with the programming " people and they believe the problem is strictly within the sound system. She indicated that they could install theu own mikes, but that would not preclude the problem. She indicated that with regard to the obscenity, the City Attomey might want to investigate the matter as a violation of the Cable Act. ° Mayor Pape noted the allegation with regard to violation of the Brown Act. City Attorney Harper noted that the only requiremenf is that prior to the PAGE SEVEN - CITY COUNCIL MINUTES - MAY 27, 1997 , Council taking action on an item, the public must be given an opportunity to speak. He explained that with regard to matters which are presentations only, the limitation is not applicable. Mayor Pape stressed that the intent of the meeting is for City business, not a forum for polifical beliefs; but the Council is looking for citizens input on this issue. He noted that there is money in Measure BB for Capital Improvements which could be used to address a new sound system or an upgrade to correct the problems. Mayor Pro Tem Kelley suggested that she wDUld like more public input; and suggested that interested citizens write to the City Clerk to advise with regard to what they would prefer. She indicated that she placed the item on the agenda for discussion and direcrion from the Council. She stressed that this matter was raised as a concern for the obscene language. MOVED BY PAPE, S~CQNDED BY BRINLEY TO TABLE THIS ITEM. Councilman Alongi noted two comments by members of the audience, from people that he does not always agree with, that he feels are important. He indicated that he does not consider public comments, grandstanding; and stressed the importance of hearing both sides and allowing the people at home to hear the discussion. He noted that it is amazing that the City can find money for signs; surveys, elections, and debts, but not for the services to the Community. He suggested taking money out of the reserves to correct the problems and stressed that the citizens pay the Council to- do a job and have a right to know how the job is being done. He also noted the Freedom of Information Act. Mayor Pape noted that the potential for use of Measure BB funds was merely a suggestion to correct the problem. THE FOREGOING MOTION CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT. 33. ~IA Directional'Sign a~;e Program. (F:148.1) City Manager Molendyk gave an overview of the Directional Sign age Program and explained the use of the e~cisting kiosks and theu locations. He noted that local builders have experienced a decline in sales of housing stock in recent years, however in the last five months there has been renewed interest in the lo~a1 housing market. He explained that the BIA (Building Industry Association) has requested an amendment and modification in the existing grogram to include larger kiosk structures in key locarions and to change directional anows to a red color. He further noted that the e~sting kiosks would not be changed and they have proposed to do freeway signs to promote residential growth in the City. He gave an overview of the functions ~ ~ ~ ;~=,~t . ~ ~ ~~ r~ ~d~'^ i ' I F, ~ . ~ ~ ~ .i ,~ T%~i . , `~ 1~ 1 ~i . 3 ~ ~ I . . ~ . ~ ~~~~ ~~ . . 1 I ~ .. . . . . . . . PAGE EIGHT C~TY COUNCIL MINUTES - MAY P~7, 1997 ,,. , f ' of the BIA and stated that it is staffs recomm~nd~hon't$at Cpuncil review the apphcants rzquest and if approved direct staff td ~vvofk ~vith'the'BIA tin a program implementation. Jeff Ashton, Building Industry Association, Manager of the off-site sign program, stated that he was present to answer any questions that Council - might have. Councilman Alongi asked if BIA to clarify if what they are proposing is to increase the number of the signs and make some of them bigger. Mr. Ashton stated that they put out signs as the builder needs them, but at the same time ~- some are going out and some are coming down thatare no longer needed and . they are located in _the same areas, therefore the number stays the same, however at times it may appear that there are more. He explained that BIA is proposing to use the larger signs at four locations which are key intersections. Councilman Alongi questioned if they were billboards. Mr. Ashton stated that they were ladder signs. City Manager Molendyk stated that the designs were the same but that the difference is the use of red arrows and currently they are blue. He noted that BIA proposes to rent space on the I-15 and the 91: Councilman Alongi said that he did not have a problem with the ' billboards, but questioned if the BIA wanted to enlazge some of the existing signs in various areas. Mr. Ashton stated that it is proposed to install bigger ladder signs in some of the areas. MayorPape stated that their packet states -^ the size of the sign fo be 60 inches by 96 inches. Mr. Ashton said that the larger signs would be used at the portal entries, and one of the proposed - --locations is Lake Street at the I-15, shown as #1 on the map. Councilman ' Alongi stated that the City has gone through this program once before a few years back and he favored it because it was going to eliminate paper signs, and asked if the builders going to police themselves. He noted that he had ~previously brought this issue up before to the City manager and explained that a bunch of real estate signs had been placed on and off the freeways and on corners and this was not suppose to happen with the program in place. Councilman Alongi asked if Council could be assured that tlus does not happen again if this program is approved once again, with the proposed changes. He further asked if paper signs are seen in these areas over the weekend will the BIA representative guarantee removal. Mr. Ashton stated that once he received a ca11, he would contact the builder to have them removed. Mayor Pape noted on the signs aeen on Lake Street and that some of the signs seen on weekends are not from developments in the City, but the County areas and are not part of the program. He clarified that the larger and wider signs will appear at only major entrances to the City. Mr. Ashton stated that the signs will be at Lake Street at I-15; Diatnond Drive and the I- 15; Corydon and Mission Trail; and Ortega Highway and Lake Street for more visibility. The Mayor stated that the sign location map shows Lake Street and I-15; Lake Grove and Riverside Drive; Grand Avenue and Diamond Drive; Mission Trail and Diamond Drive; Diamond Drive'and I-15; and Corydon and Mission Trail, and noted that there were more than four as PAGE NINE= CITY COLTNCIL MINUTES - MAY 27,1997 originally stated: Councilman Alongi asked if all the sites mentioned will be enlarged. Mr. Ashton stated that the signs would go up at the builders request. He explained that it does not mean that they will be requested to be in use all the time, but rather only as they are needed. Councilman Alongi stated that the whole purpose of Council addressing this issue is to keep the site nice and neat' and compatible with the area that it is place. He commented that he was aware that Council was going to asked to review for approval a few of the big signs, however what he is being presented with now is Sign age that will go through the whole area and implement the installation of larger signs if the builder wants it. Mr. Ashton stated that it would not be the whole area, but only those sites listed. Councilman Alongi stated that the sites listed are the whole area since there are many more sites than he was led to expect. .He expressed his concern with the engineering aspects and questioned if this would cause an obstruction with traf~c in those areas. Mr. Ashton stated that it would not be done if the signs were to create any obstruction and that they wouid not place any signs without approval of the City. Councilman Alongi stated that he has a problem with the builder saying that he wants four signs at a certain location and would then overshadow the other Sign age. He noted that he liked the first proposal, because the signs were small and compatib'le with the area and would lend to neatness, however a sign of this size in the proposed areas would not be compatible, due to the , proposed locations. He stated that he did not see the necessity of having three big signs at a freeway location. Mayor Pape asked if one large sign and iwo smaller ones would be more acceptable. City Manager Molendyk stated that it does noY necessarily mean that there would be three signs, but rather _ that these are the areas identified for consideration of Signage, He noted that it would be only four to six signs total, however there were various locations listed to best address area. Councilman Alongi stated that what Mr. Ashton said is that if the builders want the big signs, then they will put them in, therefore what Council is considering for approval now is to increase the signs to six foot wide by eight foot high in the areas which the Council had previously agreed upon for smaller signs because they were compatible with the areas. He noted that if Mr. Ashton agrees that it should only be four, then he has no problem. He stated that he felt that staff could handle instruction of placement and there is no exact limit as to where they will place the signs and he stated his concern regarding blocking the areas. Mr. Ashton stated that the builder may request that the BIA place signs, but then the BlAgoes to the City for approval; therefore if the City Engineer said that there was a sight distance problem, then they would not put a sign on that sight. Gouncilman Alongi asked that if that was the case, why is it being presented to Council if staff can handle it. He stated that he liked the sign program because it is very neat and presentable. Assistant to the Gity Manager Best explained that in the Council's packets there are hvo maps thatpertain to a consistent program that runs throughont the City which Councilman Alongi has referred to, that was approved by Council previously. She fiuther explained thatBIA is before Council to ~~s~~~~ ~ ':3 I• ~ ~ PAGE TEN - CITY COUNCIL MINUTES -1VIAY 27,1997• ' change the colot of the arrow on the sign in tlie e~chibit. She stated that beyond that item BIA has found that there is ~~ lugh 'volum''e of tr~ffic and people are having a hard time finding their way in those key areas. She noted that what BIA is proposing is additional signs which are found on the Proposed Community Lazge Sign Location Map. She further noted that of the nine sign locations, the builder would have to apply to BIA and pay a higher fee to fund a larger sign at those locations, if Council approves, then one - would be put at those locations only according to the way it is laid out on the map for Council review. Assistant to the City Manager Best explained that the rest of the sign locations on the earlier map (the existing locations) would - not be affected and cannot be approved for a different site unless it is brought - back before Council for change. He furkher explained that the nine signs proposed are the only consideration for staff fo look at for site visibility to be able to approve a larger sign. She noted that the BIA is required to approach the City with a sign, encroachment permit and to pay all necessary fees associated with getting each individual sign posted within the City. Mayor Pape and Mayor Pro Tem Kelley clarified the maps in the Agenda Item and the amount of signs allowed and the number found in each area. Councilwoman Brinley asked if they would be continuously maintained since they will be found in the main portals of the City. Mr: Ashton stated that they have a regular maintenance program and they take care of any graffiti within - 48 hours. Councilwoman Brinley asked if they will be illuminated. Mr. Ashton stated that they would not. Councilwoman Brinley asked if there =- wouid be landscape maintained. Mr. Ashton stated that it is within a five foot radius. - Councilman Alongi asked if Council approves this item, does that approve the -eight large signs in the City. He stated that his concem ismaking the signs twice as large as the current signs and placing them in the same area as the --• smaller ones that were approve previously, especially at Railroad Canyon ~ Road and the Freeway where three large signs are proposed. He further stated that he did not understand why there are three big signs proposed for - just that location. He restated that his question is if this is approved tonight, can BIA go out tomorrow at those eight locations and put the large signs up. City Manager Molendyk stated that they could not because it must come through the Pubiic Works staff. Councilman Alongi asked if it comes back through Council. City Manager Molendyk stated that it does not. Community Development Director Leslie stated that the way he views this is that the locations on the maps are just desired locations, however the ability to place a sign at these locations will have to meet some feasibility requirements: 1. The right of way to put the sign in; 2. If on private property will the owner allow the sign to be erected; and 3. In the right of way they will have to acquire an encroachment pernut and part of the encroachment permit is to review the site distauces and obstructions and if they cannot meet PAGE ELEVEN - CITY COUNCIL MINUTES - MAY 27, 1997 the City`s requirements, then they will not,be allowed to have a sign at that location despite what the map says. Councilman Alongi asked if the only signs that the staff will review are the signs in the public right-of-way. Community Developme~t D'uector Leslie stated that it is signs in the public right-of-way and private property both. MOVED BY BRINLEY, SECONDED BY KELLEY AND BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO APPROVE AN AMENDMENT AND MODIFICATION TO THE EXISTING PROGRAM TO INCLUDE LARGER KIOSK STRUCTURES IN KEY LOGATIONS, CHANGED DIRECTIONAL ARROWS TO RED COLOR , AND DIRECTED STAFF TO WORK WITH THE BIA ON PROGRAM IMPLEMENTATION. 34. Final A~groval of Tax Refunding Bonds CFD 88-3 and A~proval of the Issuance of Local Revenue Bonds. (F:22.3)(X:126.5) City Manager Molendyk gave a brief history of the Tax Refunding Bonds CFD 88-3 and stated that he recommends approval of staff recommendations. Mayor Pape called upon the persons who requested to speak as follows: Chris Hyland, 15191 Wavecrest Drive, asked where the City is going to get the money to buy back the bonds. She stated that she has been coming to the Council Meetings for years and hearing the City Attorney tell the public that they aze not responsible for paying back the bonds and just last year the City paid $500,000 to the bonds that we were not suppose to be responsible for and now the City wants to buy all the bonds back. She again asked where the City is getting the money. She noted that someone in City Ha11 told her that the money would come from the reserves and asked if there was money in the reserves why was the City faced with Measure BB. She stated that every citizen in the community wants to know where they are getting the money and why the City is buying the bonds back in the first place. City Manager Molendyk stated that it would help if she identified the staff member so that they could get up and answer the question. Ms. Hyland stated that she did not identify anyone unless she has a piece of paper from that person to make reference ta Edith Stafford stated that she also wants to laiow where the money is coming from. She fiuther stated that one thing she and Ms. Hyland do not do is reveal their sources, especially City employees. She noted that they know that the minute that they reveal what City employee told them, in your own sneaky way you will get rid of them. She commented thatthe public cannot trust what is said or 'done by this majority Council. Ms. Stafford stated that the publia should use common sense and realize that this majority Council , only wants to give away the public's money and this is not a Socialist country. She commented that tax payers should only be responsible for necessities such as fire protection or better police protection. She stated that there is no , item for'fire' o~i Measure BB and that the ta7c~ay~r is giving more to retain 11 ' positions tfian is to be given to the youth. She noted"the'ciolOred fli'ers for Measure BB. Mayor Pape stated that the flierhas nothing to do with the Bonds and that the City did not generate the flier. Ms. Stafford stated that her comments were in regard to how the majority Council manages the public money. Dick Knapp, City Treasurer, stated for the record that he was totally against this item and noted that it is $30,000,000 to replace $26.900;000 wluch is already in process. He gave a breakdown on the cost thaf will be spent on -- Bond Counsel and asked why the City would do a buy down when they can't - make the payments and getting good money to pay off the bad money; He - stated that he foilows the interest rates on the bonds and the interest is way over what the overall cost of the bonds in California are costing. He suggested that this item be revised and that the,City take this back to the drawing boards and find out how much tlus is really conning the City. He stated that the City can do a better job than this and<get a better percentage rate. . Mayor Pape called on Rod Gunn, Financial Advisor to the Gity, to address this item. - Ron Gunn, Financial Advisor to the City, explained that the of Community Facilities District 88-3 which is located in the west end ofthe City has made three bond issuance over the years with an aggregate principal amount of approximately $26,000,000. He noted that two of the three issues were acquired by the Lake Elsinore Public Financing Authority has four districts and purchased the bonds and spent them on the district. He explained that the bonds aze secured by either assessments orspecial taxes within the disiricts and the bonds issued by the Public Finance Authority aze currently in default. He noted that as of April 1, the Authority did nothave sufficient funds to make an interest payment and the reason why is that each one of the four districts, currently have significant and substanfial delinquencies for payment of the special tax. He explained that he has been asked how to solve the whole problem with the pool bonds wluch were issued by the Authority. He further explained that what is before Council is the fu-st of many steps that will have to be taken to correct that situation. Mr. Gunn explained that the first step has been to send a notice out to the owners of all the authority bonds and what it said is that if a sufficient number of offers we can then acquire bonds from the public and is not a cram down and is a voluntary program. He noted that the owners of the bonds have two decisions to make: 1. Do they want to sell their bonds to the City; and 2. At what price. He further noted that the price that the Authority is willing to pay is twice what the market would be. He gave an overview of the issuance of new bonds from that area. He stated that the current interest rate will be approacimately 6.90 to 7.00. He noted that anything with a very low interest rate have a bond of very short maturity. He further noted tliat a AAA rated bond is 5.7% plus insurance. PAGE TffiRTEEN - CITY COUNCIL MINUTES - MAY 27, 1997 Mayor Pape clarified the fact that the dollars to buy the back the bonds basically means that the City is reissuing new ones and paying off old ones and not increasing new debt, but actually the debt will go down. He noted that none of this is a debt of the City, therefore the City is not financially responsible for coming up with a check every six months to make an interest payment. City Attorney Harper stated that it will also be the source of the recovery of the loans that the City has previously made. Mr. Gunn explained that the reason that the old bonds went down is because they would anticipate buying the old bonds at a discount from what they were originally sold. Mayor Pape stated that using dollars in reserve is not going to happen, since the City is not affected in this. Mayor Pape asked if the bond rate will be lower than what it currently is. Mr. Gunn stated that it would by at least one percent. Mayor Pape asked if tlus would have any affect on the eurrent homeowners. Mr. Gunn explained thaY in the immediate future the homeowners would pay the same taxes that they always have and in an intermediate term we would hope that theu taxes would go down. Councilman Alongi asked if the City was doing $23 million, why is the City borrowing $3D million. Mr. Gunn stated that the City is issuing bonds in the amount of $23 million, additional bonds are secured by pro.perties that are currently not paying. The Gity is able to issue $23 million and pay off the old bonds because of the savings he mentioned earlier. He explained that the differential between the special taxes being paid now and the taxes necessary to service the bonds to b~ sold to the public provides the tax rate that secures the Series B bondS and the size will be whatever that tax rate supports. He noted that its basically the ta~c being paid by the large properly owners that aze delinquent. Councilman Alongi asked if that is why the City is going for $30 million rather than the $23 or $26 million. Mr. Gunn agreed. Councilman Alongi asked if the homeowners that are aff'ected be paying more. Mr.'Gunn stated that they would be paying exactly the same as they are now. Councilman Alongi asked if the bonds will be paid off or just brought current. Mr. Gunn stated that $24 million will be paid off. Gouncilman Al'ongi asked how much more it will cost to do the financing in terms of the reserve. Mr. Gunn stated that it will not require a reserve. He explained that because of buying bonds at a discount we're servicing new debt for less of a tax than is currently being levied in the area. He further explained that the difference between what is necessary to service our new bonds and what is currently being paid will be use to issue the' Series B bonds owned by the authority. He noted that the concept as we go through foreclosure procedure, those large property owners, and money is recovered, that money will go back into solving the problems of the entire pool of the other districts. Councilman Alongi asked what happens to the back taxes; does it get wiped out. Mr. Gunn stated that is the purpose of the Series B bonds is to be sure that the tax does not get wiped out. Councilman Alongi asked if we'are sure thax the property is worth what we are going through because of the debt. ' Mr. Gunn stated that an appraisal was done and several of the major pieces have an appraised value of 0. Councilman Alongi asked what happens to the existing homes in that area. Mr. Gunn stated that for ~ ~ ~ r'~f *5' n h;,,~i'-. ~ ~ . . . . . . . . PAGE FOURT~EN- CITY COUNCIL MINUTES r MAir 27, -1997 the homeowners, everything will remain the sa~ne, and as we bring thbse properties that are not paying, into a paying status tke money goes first to solve the problems of the entire pool and after that is brought current the money will then go to lower taxes for the existing property owners. He noted that the money will never come to the City. Councilmau Alongi stated that they hope that will happen. He asked why the City borrowed the money to -- pay the delinquencies the last time. Mr. Gunn stated that it is hopeful that out of this money that the loan is repaid, and at the time the delinquency was paid by the City was to show the financial market that the City was willing to step up and stand behind bonds issued by this community. He noted that at the time it was expected that the item that is before Council tonight would be - completed by April l; of this year and that loan would have prevented a default. He further noted thaY unfortunately due to unknown factors we are a couple of months past the desired deadline. He stated that he felt that if we had not paid the interest on this item, then the City would not have been able to refinance the Stadium and it did show the financial community that the City does stand behind its own debt and will.work out our financial difficulties that aze facing ttus community. Councilman Alongi stated his coneem regarding these bonds and the fact that the City itself.has no control over the developer and if the developer fails through no fault of the Council or community and it still places the City back to square one if they fail: He stated that he cannot buy into this item because there is still a risk to the community since the Council does not even know the developer; ar if they will make a go of it. He noted the problems regarding the sale of the property and the exact cost on the developer. He commended Mr. Gunn for lus efforts and his expertise. Mr. Gunn stated that perhaps he did not make himself clear in the fact that the new bonds are secured by owner occupied houses and not dependent on developerpayments and that is why it is being done this way. Mayor Pape clarified that the bonds are secured by the owner occupies homes and not by F vacant land and if the land is never built on it will not matter to the bond issue. Mr. Gunn agreed. He stated that the advantage`is that it give the City the ability to negotiate on those properties and place the vacant land into productive use. He further stated that the income from the taxes as those are brought current will create au overall solution. Councilwoman Brinley stated that she felt that this action is to make the bond pool stand on its own in order to secure the entire bond pool. Mr. Gunn Agreed. City Attorney Harper stated that the ultimate strategy is to eliminate the pool altogether. Mayor Pape asked Mr. Gunn to clarify what it will cost the City to do this. Mr. Gunn stated it will cost the City nothing. Mayor Pro Tem Kelley clarified Mr. Gunn's position with the City and commended him-for all his efforts. PAGE FIFTEEN - CITY'COUNCIL MINUTES - MAY 27,.1997 Councilwoman Brinley thanked Mr. Gunn for lus efforts. Councilman Alongi asked for a roll call vote. MOVED BY BRINLEY, SECONDED BY KELLEY TO APPROVE RESOLUTION NO. 97-24; APPROVE THE OFFICIAL STATEMENT; APPROVE THE EXECUTION OF AN AGREEMENT FOR THE PURCHASE OF LOCAL OBLIGATIONS OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE; APPROVE FISCAL AGENT AGREEMENT; AND APPROVE THE SIXTH SUPPLEMENTAL INDENTURE OF TRUST. Councilman Alongi stated that he has never voted yes on a bond issue, but because of lus belief in Mr. Gunn he is going to, however if this issue is raised in the next two years they will hear from him. THE FOREGOING MOTION WAS APPROVED UPON THE FOLLOWING ROLL CALL VOTE: AYES: ALONGI, BRINLEY, KELLEY, PAPE NOES: NONE : ABSENT: METZE. ITEMS PULLED FROM THE CONSENT CAL.ENDAR 3, Claims Against The C~,ty submitted by Randolph P. Busch (CL #97-9 and Erin Hall ,CL #97-101. (F:522) Mayor Pape stated that he has pulled this item to make note of a claim for Tar and Asphalt that flew up on their caz on Grand Avenue. He stated that he felt that they should be informed that it was the Water District that was doing those street repairs. He noted that the Council has been very unhappy with the quality of the repairs'. He furkher stated that he hoped that the City has not signed off on Lakeshore Drive since he feels that driving on that road is like driving on speed bumps. He explained that the other claim shows how we spend Gity resources and staff time for a traffic accident that clearly states it occurred in the unincorporated area and involved a school bus. Mayor Pape stated that the claimant's attorney obviously does not understand that a school bus is not part of the City and includes the City as part of the claim. He pointed out that this type of claim is just a waste of resources and time, but he guessed that there are plenty of shysters out there who will take any case. MOVED BY PAPE, SECONDED BY ALONGI AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO REJECT AND REFER TO CLAIMS ADMINISTRATOR FOR HANDLING, THE CLAIMS OF RANDOLPH P. BUSCH AND ERIN HALL AND DIRECT THE CITY , . , . . . ~ . . ~ CLERK TO S~ND LETTERS IIVFORMING T~IE CLAIM~i1~T11'S OF THIS DECISION. ' ,.. 4. Award of Contract for McVicker Canyon Debris Basin and Line B-1 Channel (Stage 4), CFD 88-3. (F:22.3) Mayor Pape stated that City Treasurer Knapp requested that this item be pulled. City Treasurer Knapp stated that this is more an informational issue than -- anything else. He noted that he was on the General Plan Advisory Committee from 1987 to 1990 and the area where there aze two baseball fields had been designated as a catch basin. He explained that when he sees the combination of costs; both the cost of the ba11 fields and the land for this item upsets him. Mr. Knapp noted that the City is buying land that they are now in the process of improving: He noted the further costs that tlus area has generated. He stated that there must be a stop put to this waste. -. City Attomey Harper stated that these are improvements which were required to be constructed with funds derived from CFD 88-3. He noted that they were funds that were bond proceeds and fall into conditions of improvements in that area since 1988. He pointed out that the funds were not City funds nor costs, but rather developer improvement conditions. City Engineer O'Donnell stated that the debris basin has to be placed to protect McVicker Park and Grand Avenue as well as to keep the sediment out of the Lake. Mayor Pape asked that if the ball parks were not there, then the City would still want to control the flow into the Lake and the channel. City Engineer O'Donnell confinned. Councilman Alongi asked that if the City did not do the-development of the ball field; would the City still have to do the improvement that is before Council. City Engineer O'Donnell stated that in his opinion the City would still have to do the basin. MOVED BY PAPE, SECONDED BY BRINLEY AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF T~IOSE PRESENT TO ACCEPT T~IE BID OF $1,382,279 AND AWARD CONTRACT TO GREG J. HARRIS CONSTRUCTION; ACCEPT PROPOSALS FOR GEOTECHNICAL SERVICES AND AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE • AGREEMENTS FOR SAID SERVICES WITH ZEISER KLING CONSULTANTS INC., FOR THE MC VICKER CANYON DAM AND DEBRIS BASIN IN THE AMOUNT OF $68,409 AND FOR TIiE 24-FEET WIDE HAUL ROAD IN THE AMOUNT OF $25,508. 5. Award Of Contract For Abatement Of Substandard tructure At 106 4rn~th Chestnut Street. (F:32.4) Mayor Pape stated that he asked to have this item pulled because it is similar PAGE SEVENTEEN - CITY COUNCIL MINUTE5 - MAY~27, 1997 . to what Council has reviewed from the Appeals section. He noted that again we have another property in the City that has been allowed to deteriorate to the point it must be boarded up and there are transients breaking as well as activities for gangs and drug problems. He explained that in the past the City had a program to deal with these problems and if the owner did not bring the property to code the City would tear the building down and put a lien on the property until it was sold and then the city would recoup iYs funds. He noted that due to lack of funds the City has not been able to continue the program. He noted that the up coming election does include funds to allow active shucture abatement. Mayor Pape stated that there are a number of properties that need to be addressed and people complain from those neighborhoods that the buildings need to be addressed to eliminate the hazard they cause to those neighborhoods. '" _ MOVED BY PAPE, SECONDED BY BRINLEY AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OFTHOSE PRESENT TO ACCEPT THE BID FROM VISIONS WEST IN TFIE AMOUNT OF $6,450 FOR THE ABATEMENT OF THE SUBSTANDARD STRUCTURES AT 106 SOUTH CHESTNUT STREET. THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING WAS RECESSED AT 8:51 P.M. THE CITY COUNCIL RECONVENED AT 8:54 P.M. PUBLIC COMMENTS - NON AGEIVDIZED ITEM5 Chris Hyland, 15191 Wavecrest Drive, informed Mayor Pro Tem Kelley that she had the right to get on her soap box and grandstand. Commented on an add in the Californian and noted that it cost $922 and regardless of what anyone has said, the information printed in the paper shows that the City of Lake Elsinore paid for tlus advertisement and will be on everyone's mind. She encoi~raged every voter to vote no on Measure BB. She stated that what the public has been told in her opinion is a bunch of lies. Helena Holman, I5062 Danielle Way, stated that she has not be able to attend Council Meetings for the last three years and she depends on the Television to keep informed regarding her local government and their actions. She stated her concern over the Signage at the parks and the fact that if Measure BB does not pass that the Gity will actually close the parks. She explained that she feels intimidated by the sign and feels that it is saying either "you vote yes or the City will do iY' and she can't believe that the City Council that she voted into office, will actually close the parks and she is counting on the Council to find a way to keep the parks open. She stated that the decision on Measure BB should be up to the voter and not forced by signs at the park to make the decision for us. She stated that she would like to see t3}e signs ,come down. Dick IKnapp, City TreaSurer, commented on Mayor Pape's comments at the May 15, City Council Meeting regarding the ownership of the land that the S'tadium sits on. He stated that as of today all the records in the County show that 1VI~r. Lehr and the Diamond Family_are _the le$al-owner. He noted that at the ar1Gf ch 11, 19~7,-~Meeting ~he asked to fiave thiss~~a~to~orrected and it has been three months and there is ~ still no change. He stated that to address the comment that he has given misinformation is a lie, and all he asks is that this be conected. Mr. Knapp stated that the Mayor is the one that is misinforming the publia He stated that there is xnisinformation regarding Measure BB and the amount of reduction to the Lighting - and Landscaping amount. He stated that he would much rather see a Stadium close than the pazks. He stated that the City does have the money to carry us into next year to another vote. Chris McColley, 29072 Palm View, Chauwoman of Yes on BB Committee, announced that there will be one more program on Vision and Views, Monday at 7:30 p.m. She noted the wide spread support of Yes on Measure BB and have received a great deal of contributions towazd this effort. 'She noted that the County residents are important and her committee welcomes their support. She addressed a change in polls and suggested the persons involved should contact the County of Registrars. She commented on the remarks about the citizens of La1ce Elsinore that •- Lake Elsinore would not pass iYs measure because of it's backwards thiuking people and she felt that the remark was unjust and unfounded. . Jack McColley, 29072 Palm View, noted the fact that in one week Measure BB will come to a vote of the people. He noted the misprint in the Californian for the add on Yes on Measure BB. He made note of the people who spend a lot of time tcying to catch the City doing wrong and in regard to the add in the newspaper, it was a mistake, since-the add was paid for by the Yes on Measure BB Committee. He thanked the Californian and Diane Samones for their professional behavior and theu proper response. He urged everyone to get out and vote on MeasureBB. CITY MANAGER COMMENTS - City Manager Molendyk addressed City Treasurer Knapp's comment that the City has money. He noted for the benefit of the Community that the City has lost $3,000,000 over the last three years and explained the shortfalls that have occurred. He stated that he is not aware of any money that would keep park maintenance and operations and noted that he would be open to receiving that information. He explained that because of a lack of hust in the Council the issue was taken to a 2/3rd ballot to insure exactly where the money would be spent and in good faith the Council as well as members of the community, in good faith have made an effort to show where the money will be spent. He pointed out that if the City had the money they would not be laying off eleven people. Announced that the BIA representatives hosted a meeting and asked that the Council be reminded that there is a public hearing at the Water District, tomonow aY 9:00 a.m., to discuss water fees which will have a major impact on economic development within the City. PAGE NINETEEN - CITY COiTNCIL MINUTE5 - MAY 27, 1997 . CITY COUNCIL COMMENTS Mayor Pro Tem Kelley commented on the following: 1. Thanked Helena Holman for her comments regarding the televising the Council Meetings. 2. Thanked the Chamber of Commerce for the Mini Grand Prix and noted that they had a great time. She noted that the car now has some duck tape on it, but they had fun. 3. Invited the public to attend a special event on June 13, 1997, which is the Grand Night Committee's Night After Grad Night party, at Temescal Canyon High School from 6:00 p.m. to 8:00 p.m. She noted that the Grad Night at Temescal Canyon is one of the best in California and they have earned quite a reputation. 4. Encouraged everyone ui the City to vote. 5. If anyone has any questions regarding Measure BB, they should call City Hali to get factual information before deciding. .- 6. Noted the criticism that Council has received regarding the signs at the parks and explained that it was done for public information and prevent anyone from not understanding what Measure BB was all about. She stated that the Council has taken every opporiwuty to educate the public and noted that a 2/3 majority is very hard to reach and people must vote. She noted that Proposition 218 did give the voters the right to decide on their fees and taaces, however it is major responsibility on the voter now to get out and vote to address the needs of theu communities in a global aspect, rather than an individual need. Councilwoman Brinley commented on the following: 1. Thanked the Chamber of Commerce for the Mini Grand Prix and commented on Councilman Alongi's crash in the City's car. She commended the Chamber for all their efforts and hoped that the City and Chamber could keep working together as they have recently. 2. Thanked the Californian for their professional apology. 3. Noted that Mrs. ~Iyland places great pride in her own documentation and yet is unable to accept that the Californian has admitted to making a mistake and has been professional enough to admit it in public and asked what gives her documentation more creditability than someone else. ~ :.;~ ~ ~~ ; PAGE TWENTY - CITY COUNCIL MINUTES - MA~Y 27, 1997 4. Apologized to Ms. Holman for the intimidationregarding the closure;' signs, however they were posed to educate the public in regard'to what Measure BB is all about. She noted that Council does not want to close the parks, however it is up to the voters. 5. Encouraged the public to vote. She noted how important for everyone to express their opinion. She asked that every voter look at what is best for the community and not just for themselves. She noted the items listed on the ballot and the great need of the community to have these services. Gouncilman Alongi commented on the following: 1. Thanked the staff of the City, thanked City Attorney Harper for the car and commented on Mayor Pro Tem Kelley good driving and thanked the Chamber of Commerce for the Grand Prix. He noted that it is a great event for families and he hopes that they are able to keep it up. 2. Addressed the add in the Californian and how upset he was. He stated that the majority of the people who pick up a newspaper and read it, believe it and along with the signs being posted and all the activities regarding Measure BB, puts tremendous pressure on the voter. He pointed out that televising the Meetings is important since it gave the McColley's and the newspaper the opportunity to explain the mistake and without T.V, this would not be possible. 3. Noted that he will not answer Mrs. Sostre's letter because she is wrong, however he stated his surprise at Jan Moffit. He explained that he does not care what the CANT group does, he only cares what they say about him. He commented on Ms. Moffit's letter and stated that he felt that she had received misinformation. He stated that his interest is the parks and he felt that there are a lot of people in the community that do not support Measure BB and that womes him. He stated that they need to sit down prior to the November Election and come up with a plan and explained that Council needs to stop giving misinformation or half information to the community which really bothers him. He addressed revenue received by the City and explained that the reason that the City does not have the money is through mismanagement of funds. He stated his objection to the signs and noted that if the Council moves to close one pazk they should all be recalled. Councilman Alongi stated that the City pays out hundreds of thousands of dollars each year for someone else problems, but do not invest in the community. He noted that the needs of the City such as the sound system should have been taken care of. 4. Addressed the issue of McVicker Park and pointed out that due to grading the project got much larger than it was originally intended and PAGE TWENTY-ONE - CITY COUNCIL MINUTES - MAY 27, 1997 it was suppose to be a catch basin. He noted that when the changes were made in McVicker Pazk that is when the changes occurred to the rest of the development. He commented that the City is spending $5,000,000 on one park and the people in those homes are paying for it. He fiuther noted that the City is not paying for it, but rather the developer is passing the costs on to the homeowner. He explained that the homeowner is paying a$5,000,000 debt and now the City puts a sign up that says that we are going to close it. He stated that fencing the pazks would be cause for civil disobedience in his book and the fences would be ripped down. 5. Addressed Mr. Gunn and noted the tough job that he has in this community. He stated that Mr. Gunn needs the full support of the Council, and not one Councilmember saying no. He commented that it is necessary to recognize Mr. Gunn's hard work and dedication to what he is trying to accomplish for this community. He expressed his hope that it worlcs for the City. 6. Announced that More Than Three Minutes is on next Thursday and will be talking more about the City's budget, parks and the rest of issues that go along with it. 7. Again, thanked, everyone who took part in the Grand Prix and stated what a great day it was. Mayor Pape commented on the following: 1. Commended the Chamber for doing a good job on the event and clean- up after the Grand Prix. He noted that clean-up is just as important as the event itself. . ~,. 2. Addressed the ownership of the Stadium property and clarified that it does belong to the City. 3. Commented on the Town Ha11 Meetings that Council has attended and stated that one of the questions that Council hears the most is whether Proposition 218 i's affecting other cities or is it just affecting the City of _ Lake Elsinore. He stated that it is afPecting all cities that have special assessments:: He cited Temecula, Murrieta, and Claremont to name a few. He noted that the Counties have been drastically affected by Proposition 218 by a reduction in revenues. He stated that the County of Riverside has had $100,000,000 cuts over the last three years and _ they aze still $30,000,000 from balancing their budget for 97/98 and that they are hying to look at different ways to raise revenue. He fiuther stated tliat the County and City are experiencing the very same thing. Mayor Pape noted an article in the newspaper which addressed law enforcement and how they will be affected because of the latest c,uts they will go from one officer per thousand to seyen=tenths per thousand which has an affect on cities. He noted thaf reciprocal agreements will affect the City officers and County officers in back-up situations wluch will affect response time for all the residents. 4. Made note of an article in the Sacramento °B" with a headline reading "Give Back the Money". It reported that the State has surplus money and the article stated that they had received extra money from counties and cities and it should be given back since they need it to operate. He explained that even the newspapers are starting to pick up on the situation and are asking that the money go back to where it came from. 5. He stated that it is important to keep the public informed to assist them in making decisions and the signs posted at the parks were not to intimidate, but rather to educate the public, He stated that their motive was to prevent people from coming to Council and saying that Council knew what the financial situation was in the City and did not inform anyone of the state of the City. He stated that the City finds themselves in the same position as the Gounty and he is sure that the County does not want to reduce police services anymore than the City wants to close the parks. 6. Noted a Letter to the Editor from a lady who addressed taxes and cited the State and School District and taxes in general. He pointed out that the City has no control over what the other entities do. He explained that in her letter she mentioned Measure BB and stated that he hopes that she understands the issue of funding for services, such as graffiti and Senior Center. He explained that the Citizens Gommittee choose the items on the ballot to insure the quality of life in Lake Elsinore. He addressed another letter that was about the signs and explained that Council could not wait until after the election because staff needed tnne to follow direction and acquire authorization. He made note of the fact that Council did vote to close the parks, lay off staff and close the Community Center at the last meeting if Measure BB did not pass. He stated that those actions will be necessary to balance the budget if funding resources are not awarded by the voter. Mayor Pape stated that he feels that Council has an obligation to educate and inform the public about what is going on. He stated that the last thing that Gouncil wants is to be accused of making back room decisions and springing it on the public at the last minute. He outlined Council's actions to educate the public in an efforf to keep everyone informed. He stated that it would be a terrible thing to have to close parks and Council does not want to see this happen and noted the impact that park closures will have on property value. He further noted that the School District cannot maintain the parks and advised the City to close the park. He stated that it is not possible to post the parks with a sign that states "Use at your own risk", because the City is still responsible and ow PAGE TWENTY-THREE - CITY COUNCIL MINUTES - MAY 27, 1997 Joint Powers Insurance Authority would not cover us if we allowed this to happen. He noted a letter that stated that Measure BB did not include street repairs and Mayor Pape explained that the Citizens Committee included only items in Measure BB that they felt were an emergency. He explained that the Committee also suggested that the fire station on the west end go to a vote of the people and did not include it on this measure. 7. He encouraged people to ask questions and call City Hall to gain more information so that when you go to the polls you can make an informed decision He noted that the City is looking at a 30% reduction and explained that it will affect the quality of life as we have known it. CLOSED SE55ION Potential Litigation - L.E.R.A., Inc. 2. Potential Litigation - Suuunerhill. THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING WAS ADJOURNED TO CLOSED SESSION AT 9:32 P.M. FOR DISCUSSION OF THE ABOVE MENTIONED ITEMS. THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING RECONVENED AT 10:37 P.M. NO ACTION TAKEN. ADJOURNMENT MOVED BY PAPE, SECONDED BY KELLEY AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO ADJOURN THE REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING AT 10:38 P.M. A :,:E~T: ~:i C /; ~ yTCKi KA.."_-EL~, CITY CLERK ~L',j~.`~i'S'.C,~i?.I°.A'F~E ELSINORE Ce~ KEVIN W. P E, MAYOR CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE