HomeMy WebLinkAbout03-11-1999 City Council Study SessionMINUTES
CITY COUNCIL STUDY SESSION
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
183 NORTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA
THURSDAY, MARCH 11,1999
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CALL TO ORDER
The City Council Study Session was called to order by Mayor Kelley at 3:10 p.m.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Councilman Schiffner.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: METZE, PAPE, SCHIFFNER,
KELLEY
ABSENT: COiJNCILMEMBERS: BRINLEY (Councilwoman
Brinley arrived at 3:30 p.m.)
Also present were: City Manager Watenpaugh, Administrative Services
- Director Boone, Community Development Director Brady, Community
Services Director Sapp, Building & Safety Manager Russell and Public Works
Manager Payne and City Clerk Kasad.
1. Proposal for Multi-familv/Senior Housing. (F:78.1)
City Manager Watenpaugh noted that staff and one Councilmember met with
Mr. Schleuniger regarding this project. He e~lained the proposed apartment
project and the future potential for three levels of senior care. He indicated
that after hearing this information, staff feels there is a need for some multi-
family housing and some senior housing. He further noted that the proposed
site lends itself well to this type of development.
Craig Schleuniger applicant indicated that he wanted to discuss the multi-
family element and noted that the senior units will be at a separate location.
He indicated that this proposal is for about 142 units on approximately eight
acres. He further indicated that these apartments will be at market rate which
is non-assisted and open to anyone. Councilman Pape inquired whether the
senior housing was being proposed at this time. Mr. Schleuniger indicated
that the senior housing was not being proposed at this time as there is still
more investigation to be done. Mayor Kelley requested clarification that the
first phase would be the regular apartments. Mr. Schleuniger confirmed.
Councilman Metze inquired what the count for dwelling units per acre would
be. Mr. Schleuniger indicated that it would be about si~cteen units to the acre,
and noted that they would like to amend the specific plan for this use. He
noted that they will incorporated design elements from the original specific
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plan in this project.
City Manager Watenpaugh indicated that the reason for this proposed
amendment is partially the terrain of the site and partially the retail market.
Mr. Schleuniger confirmed that this parcel is not desirable for retail at this
time, and noted that there is a need for apartments in this area based on a
recent market study. He commented that they have talked with a lot of
retailers and the interest is the area nearest to Walmart.
Mayor Kelley questioned the proposed apartment size. Mr. Schleuniger
indicated that the average unit would be a two bedroom, but they will range
from one to three bedrooms. City Manager Watenpaugh noted the staircasing
of the complex to follow. the existing terrain. Mr. Schleuniger confirmed and
noted the views the staircase effects will afford the residents.
Mayor Pro Tem Metze inquired if Mr. Schleuniger was aware of the quality
desired, based on his meetings with staff. City Manager Watenpaugh
indicated that the proposed project is more on the upscale from any units
currently in the City; noting that about the only concern remaining is the issue
of carports vs. garages. He indicated that the project would accommodate the
City standards, as well as the crime free multi-housing program. Mayor Pro
Tem Metze noted that he is very impressed with the crime free multi-housing
program. He also indicated that he likes the location and if what Mr.
Schleuniger is discussing as quality is something that the Council can buy
into and it falls under the crime free program he would be supportive. Mr.
Schleuniger addressed the crime free multi-housing program and noted that
he lrnew there was something new, but he was not sure of the timing for
implementation. City Manager Watenpaugh provided an overview of the
program and noted that it helps the apartment managers; and commented on
the other cities which .ha~e adopted ordinances. Mayor Pro Tem Metze
stressed the helpful factors of the program. Councilman Pape noted that the
crime free program was generally a lease addendum. Mr. Schleuniger
indicated that he would like to take a look at the program.
Councilman Pape inquired what amenities the project would include.
Glen Dagel, Architect, indicated that it would include two tennis courts, two
swimming pools, extensive landscaping due to the step up of the hill, a club
house and meeting room. He clarified that they have not focused on the
details yet, other than to fit the project into the site. He indicated that it is
designed to comply with the current City standards and the intent and theme
is for something high quality and nice looking. Mayor Kelley inquired if the
project would be gated. Mr. Dagel indicated that it is possible, but that has
not yet been determined.
City Manager Watenpaugh clarified that the study session was requested due
to the considerable past discussion of multi-family housing in the past. He
indicated that staff wanted to get a feel from the Council before the developer
starts spending money on a multi-family project.
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Councilman Pape indicated that the location of this project makes it different.
Mayor Pro Tem Metze stressed the visibility of the site.
Mayar Kelley indicated that she likes the terracing. Councilman Schiffner
noted that there would be a briefing on the multi-family housing program on
March 18~'.
Mayor Pro Tem Metze indicated that it would be a good idea to understand
the concept, and concurred with Councilman Pape about the location.
Councilman Schiffner stressed the advantage for Mr. Schleuniger in attending
the briefing on the program. City Manager Watenpaugh indicated that he can
provide a copy of the program manual to the Council for review.
Councilman Schiffner expressed disappointment that they would not be
proceeding with the senior component of the project, but indicated that he
would support it anyway. Mr. Schleuniger indicated that they are definitely
looking at proceeding with the senior portion of the project at a later date.
There was general Council consensus that the developer should proceed in
working with staff on this project.
COUNCILWOMAN BRINLEY JOINED THE MEETING AT 3:30 P.M.
2. Citv Council PolicyReview & Updates. (F:120.1)
Mayor Kelley noted that the goals and objectives for this year included a
review of the policies and make sure that all are in agreement with them. She
further noted that this consideration was very timely with Councilman
Schiffner joining the Council. City Manager Watenpaugh noted that staff has
gone through and tried to modify the policies for clarity, and made minor
changes such as changing employee titles. He detailed the proposed changes
in the policies regarding selection of the Mayor and use of City credit cards.
Councilman Pape suggested that all officers for the Council and RDA be
included in the policy for selection of Mayor. City Manager Watenpaugh
noted the policies which are still being reviewed by the Attorney.
Mayor Kelley questioned the travel and training policy. City Manager
Watenpaugh noted that since the City has downsized and not bought a lot of
equipment, there are only two pool vehicles remaining and staff would
suggest that Council turn in mileage until additional vehicles are available.
Councilman Pape suggested that it would be a matter of using them at one's
own risk.
Mayor Kelley further addressed travel and training, and eapressed concern for
preventing the overlap of ineetings. Mayor Pro Tem Metze indicated that he
would like to see more coordination of ineetings with the City Clerk,
including special events.
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Councilwoman Brinley concurred it would be a good idea to do this. Mayor
Kelley noted that along with this she would like to allot some time for
Councilmembers to report to each other on their other meetings. She stressed
the complex nature of actions occurring at this time. Councilwoman Brinley
suggested the addition of a section for Committee Reports to the end of the
agenda. City Manager Watenpaugh suggested that Committee Reports be
listed before Council Comments. All Councilmembers concurred this would
be appropriate.
Mayor Pro Tem Metze noted that he hasn't had much time to get involved in
the crime free multi-housing program, but would like to meet with Deputy
Simmons.
City Manager Watenpaugh noted the Press Release policy and suggested the
addition of the City ManagerBxecutive Director to those authorized to issue
releases. He noted that stafF is working on setting up a press table at the
Council meetings and concentrating on issuing press releases on anything
newsworthy. Council express support for these efforts.
Councilman Schiffner asked how the press table would work with the current
configuration. City Manager Watenpaugh e~lained that staff is warking to
relocate the cameras to address the concerns with the new arrangements.
Mayor Pro Tem Metze and Councilwoman Brinley indicated that they are
pleased with the new seating arrangements.
Mayor Kelley noted that part of the Council Policy is the committee
appointments, and highlighted the committees on which individual
councilmembers serve. She inquired if there was any interest in changing
committees and noted the need to appoint someone to the WRCOG habitat
conservation agency. Mayor Pro Tem Metze indicated that he was hoping to
discuss the RCHCA position with Councilman Schiffner, noting that that
agency will stay in existence to finish the K-Rat requirements and maintain
property.
Mayor Kelley indicated that she was ready to rotate out of the WRCOG. City
Manager Watenpaugh noted the timing and location of the WRCOG
meetings.
Councilman Schiffner offered to take the Habitat committees.
Councilwoman Brinley agreed to take the WRCOG. Councilman Schiffner
indicated that he would do his share to help balance these appointments. City
Manager Watenpaugh indicated that he will bring this item forward to the
next meeting for approval and discussion of the committee appointments.
City Manager Watenpaugh announced that the City was notified that the
application submitted to CALED regarding the Economic Gardening
Program had received an award of inerit. He noted that the Assistant City
Manager would be attending their meeting the end of March and speaking on
that program. He also noted that Community Development Director Brady
would be speaking at the Community Development Conference on the same
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topic.
Mayor Pro Tem Metze indicated that he would like to see the multi-family
ordinance on the books as soon as possible.
ADJOURNMENT
THE STUDY SESSION WAS ADJOURNED AT 3:50 P.M.
ATTEST:
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CKI KA AD, CITY CLERK
CITY OF LAI~ ELSINORE
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CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE