HomeMy WebLinkAbout11-14-2000 City Council/RDA Study SessionMINUTES
CITY COUNCIL/REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
STUDY SESSION
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
130 SOUTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA
TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 14, 2000
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CALL TO ORDER
The City Council Study Session was called to order by Mayor Brinley at
4:00 p.m.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: KELLEY,
SCHIFFNER,
BRINLEY
ABSENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: METZE, PAPE
Also present were: City Manager Watenpaugh, Assistant City Manager
Best, City Attorney Leibold, Community Development Director Brady,
Information/Communications Manager Dennis, and Deputy City Clerk
Bryning.
DISCUSSION
1. AeendaReview. (F:44.1)
Presentations
Councilwoman Kelley noted that the person who was going to present
the program for Safety Kids would not be present due to a personal
accident. Mayor Brinley stated that she would continue this item to a
future date.
Mayor Brinley stated that she would have an additional presentation
for Anthony Chairez who had become an Eagle Scout.
Consent Calendar
Councilwoman Kelley addressed Item No. 4, and questioned the
location of Claim No. 2000-17. She asked if it were filed against the
State as well. City Attorney Leibold indicated that she did not know,
however the Claims Administrator had recommended denial.
Councilman Schiffner questioned the location since Rose Street was
not located within the City Limits.
Mayor Brinley stated that she would be pulling Item No. 5 regarding
the Grant Deed and Statement of Disclosure to the Center for Natural
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Lands Management for more information. Councilman Schiffner
stated that he was going to ask to have this item pulled as well. He
stated that as far as he was concerned, he felt the Fish and Wildlife
was dictatarial and he wanted the public to know that.
City Manager Watenpaugh presented an overview of the item and
explained that Granite Homes was required to dedicate open space.
He noted that some time ago Council had agreed to provide the 29-
acre open space to Fish and Wildlife to assist Friedman Homes in
their additional requirements for development as well as shed
responsibility of the cost of maintenance for the open space. He
stated that through this action the City would assure that the area
remained open space.
Councilman Schiffner asked if the 29 acres was a requirement of Fish
and Wildlife. City Manager Watenpaugh stated that it was not a
requirement, however it was an opportunity to relieve the City
taxpayer of the responsibility for the maintenance of open space and
still have it remain as open space view corridors and vistas available.
Councilman Schiffner stated that it was mutually beneficial to all
parties. City Manager Watenpaugh concurred.
City Manager Watenpaugh asked that the City Clerk's Office provide
a copy of the Police Report to the City Council for Claim No. 2000-14
(Milstead), which was addressed by Item No. 4.
Mayor Brinley asked the City Manager to explain Item No. 7, Rental
Fees for the Diamond Stadium. City 1Vlanager Watenpaugh explained
that because of the default of Lakeside Sports Entertainment, the City
must re-implement the fees for the rental of the Diamond Stadium and
Diamond Club. Councilwoman Kelley asked if the fees were the
same as Lakeside's fees. City Manager Watenpaugh stated that it was
a combination of what Lakeside charged and what the City previously
charged. Councilman Schiffner requested clarification that under the
present agreement the only rights the baseball team had to the
Stadium were related to baseball. City Manager Watenpaugh advised
that the team had the rights for several other additional uses outside of
the baseball season, however they must provide the dates and the
activities would all be baseball related. Councilman Schiffner
clarified that the City could do concerts and other activities. City
Manager Watenpaugh stated that the City was currently negotiating
those issues. City Attorney Leibold stated that the City was currently
in negotiations with Mandalay for baseball purposes, however
historically Mandalay gets revenues from baseball events and the
Redevelopment Agency gets revenues from non-baseball events. She
noted that currently there was no binding agreement between
Mandalay and the Agency. Councilman Schiffner requested
confirmation that Lakeside had officially abandoned the Stadium.
City Attorney Leibold confirmed and explained that on numerous
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occasions Lakeside Entertainment had notified the City that they
could no longer meet their financial obligations under the Stadium
Lease; and the City had repeatedly confirmed that they were
abandoning their obligations and were repudiating the lease in breech
of their obligations. She indicated that as of November 15, they sent a
letter officially abandoning the premises; however they have had no
' presence at the Stadium since the end of October and since the end of
October the City took over and began taking an inventory. She stated
that no matter which date is considered, they are no longer officially
involved at all. She explained that as the owner and landlord of the
facility the City had the obligation to mitigate damages and protect
' assets. She noted that Lakeside had been informed of all the measures
the City had to take to mitigate damages. Councilman Schiffner asked
if Lakeside's surrender of the Stadium had any affect on Mandalay.
City Attorney Leibold stated that it did, and noted that Lakeside
' repudiated their agreement with Mandalay, just as they did with the
City. She noted that Lakeside had a number of contracts they had
reneged on. Councilman Schiffner asked if that included any
agreements for other monies or concessionaires. City Attorney
Leibold stated that the Concession Agreement was a tri-party
agreement between the concessionaire, Lakeside and Mandalay and
the City was in the process of negotiations. Mayor Brinley asked if
Mandalay owed any money to Lakeside. City Attorney Leibold stated
that she did not know; however the City was not responsible for any
of those types of debts. City Manager Watenpaugh stated that the
City had already paid Lakeside's phone bill and some of the utilities.
He indicated that those monies would be incorporated in any future
action taken against Lakeside. Mayor Brinley asked what the City
had spent to date. City Manager Watenpaugh stated that to date the
only money the City had paid was the phone bill, however the City
would have to pay the water bill as well, since the water was shut off.
He stated that the City was informed that there was a bill of $43,000
far electricity, and the City had contacted the Southern California
Edison and told them that the City would pay the bill to keep from
loosing electricity. Councilwoman Kelley asked if the City had plans
to look for a promoter for the Stadium for activities other than
baseball. City Manager Watenpaugh stated that the City was
currently negotiating the agreement to establish where the City stood
and determine the actual cost to get the Stadium back in shape. He
stated that the City had one group approach the City and requested
four dates to market and promote events. He indicated that they were
very aware of the situation; they tried to approach the previous leased
company; they would not talk to them; they run major events in
Southwest Riverside County and Orange County; and they are very
interested in operating some events at the Stadium. City Attorney
Leibold stated that once a relationship had been defined, and when the
City was comfortable with the estimate of the maintenance and
operating costs; potential revenue and expenses; then a definition
could be finalized.
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Mayor Brinley addressed Item No. 6, regarding Special Counsel for
Stadium matters. City Attorney Leibold noted that Mr. Pistone was a
well-qualified litigator and she had worked with him and lrnew him
personally. She stated that he comes highly recommended and is
extremely competent. She further noted that he specializes in
Commercial and Real Estate litigation. Councilman Schiffner asked if
this action was to authorize a fee schedule. City Attarney Leibold
clarified that Council was not authorizing Mr. Pistone to do any work
at this time. Councilman Schiffner requested clarification that he
would return with a proposal and anything in excess of $5,000, which
can be approved by the City Manager, would come back to the City
Council for consideration, City Attorney Leibold confirmed. She
explained that he had no authority to move forward with any action
until directed by the Agency Board. She noted that what was
presented was Mr. Pistone's fee schedule and staff would like to have
him on retainer; so that when there is a plan, he would be authorized
to move forward. Mayor Brinley noted that what he had provided was
a guideline far fees. Councilman Schiffner clarified that the City
would be putting him on retainer, but at a zero dollar retainer. City
Attorney Leibold concurred.
Business Items
Mayor Brinley asked if there were any questions regarding Item No.
33, the Amendment to the Graffiti Ordinance. Councilwoman Kelley
asked which stores in town did not have spray paint behind bars. City
Manager Watenpaugh stated that the Do-It Center and various small
stores in the area did not. Councilman Schiffner stated that he was not
totally satisfied that the action would be a great deterrent, however it
would be a first step. Mayor Brinley stated that at least it tightens
down and cleans up some verbiage in the Ordinance. She thanked
staff for a good job. City Manager Watenpaugh noted that various
cities were compared and the proposed ordinance was a combination
of all the other cities to maintain consistency. Councilwoman Kelley
questioned the markers. Community Development Director Brady
stated that the sizes vary and noted that'/4 inch is a fairly common size
used for graffiti. Councilwoman Kelley stated that'/4 inch marker is a
poster marker. She stated that she was concerned that the stores
would have to pull the Crayola Markers and place them in an enclosed
area. Community Development Director Brady clarified the size and
stated that it would not affect the Crayola Markers for children.
Councilman Schiffner clarified that the list in the Ordinance was what
was commonly prohibited in other cities. He stated that he felt that
graffiti was one of the worst non-violent crimes against the general
public. He further stated that he would be in favor of public flogging
if it were permissible. City Manager Watenpaugh noted that the City
was hit heavily last weekend. Councilwoman Kelley requested
confirmation that the parents could be charged for the cost of removal
if the person were caught. City Manager Watenpaugh confirmed.
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Councilman Schiffner clarified that the Police Department feels that
they could move forward catching the people. City Attorney Leibold
stated that there were four persons being prosecuted at the present
time. Councilman Schiffner stated that it might not take many being
prosecuted to deter further damage. Councilwoman Kelley noted the
reward listed in the Ordinance. Councilman Schiffner asked if the
clean up on private property, with permission, was going to be a
problem. City Manager Watenpaugh stated that the City must have
permission from the property owner to remove the graffiti. He
explained that the City could remove the graffiti and be reimbursed or
remove the graffiti and not be reimbursed with the victims rights
' signed over to the City to allow the City to prosecute for
reimbursement. He explained that the Council would have to decide
in the future how they wish to handle it.
City Manager Watenpaugh addressed Item No. 34, Design Review for
Industrial Project No. I 00-01. He stated that there was a correction
on the square footage of the building on the chart on Page 11. He
, noted that the total office space should read 13,725 square feet and the
parking requirement would not be changed; however the applicant
would be providing 40 parking spaces rather than the 29 spaces
required. Councilman Schiffner asked about the required handicap
~ spaces. Community Development Director Brady stated that out of 29
' required spaces only two were required to be handicapped. Mayor
Brinley addressed the outdoar sforage area and asked what would be
stored. Community Development Director Brady stated that they did
not have a tenant for the building and it was unlcnown at this time
what would be stored, however it would be in conformance with the
outdoor storage requirements. Mayor Brinley suggested that outdoor
starage would not be an issue until the applicant applied for a
Conditional Use Permit. Community Development Director Brady
stated that a CUP had already been approved by the Planning
Commission, however the tenant wou~d have to comply. Councilman
Schiffner questioned the wall that was to be built on this property.
Community Development Director Brady noted that as long as the
property develops in two years the wall would not be required. Mayar
Brinley questioned the metal awnings. Community Development
Director Brady noted that the awnings on the other building were the
same and added consistency. Mayor Brinley asked about a Condition
of Approval that would address the maintenance and condition of the
awnings. Community Development Director Brady stated that the
City had a Maintenance Ordinance that required the applicant to
maintain the building at a certain level. Councilman Schiffner noted
that the metal awning would hold up better than the paint on the
building.
Redevelopment Agency
Chairman Schiffner noted that the items on the Redevelopment
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Agency were standard and discussion was not necessary.
City Manager Watenpaugh proposed the following Study Sessions:
City Council Study Session - Raceway - November 30, 2000 at
10:00 a.m. at the Cultural Center.
Special Council Meeting - CDBG Projects and Requirements
and Discussion regarding Lake/Commercial Fees - December
7, 2000, 10:00 a.m. at City Hall..
Study Session regarding Sign Ordinance proposed after the first
of the year.
ADJOURNMENT
THE CTTY COUNCIL/REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY AGENDA
REVIEW STUDY SESSION WAS ~H~OiTRNED AT 4:43 P.M.