HomeMy WebLinkAbout08-08-2000 City Council/RDA Study SessionMINUTES
CITY COUNCIL/REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY STUDY SESSION
CITY OF LAKE ELSIN032E
130 SOUTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA
TUESDAY, AUGUST S, 2000
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CALL TO ORDER
The City Council Study Session was called to order by Mayor Brinley at 4:00 p.m.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: KELLEY, SCHIFFNER,
BRINLEY
ABSENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: METZE, PAPE
Also present were: City Manager Watenpaugh, Assistant City Manager Best, City
Attorney Leibold, Community Development Director Brady,
Information/Communications Director Dennis and City Clerk/Human Resources
Directar Kasad.
DISCUSSION
a. A~enda Review. (F:44.3)
Presentations
City Manager Watenpaugh noted that the normal procedure is to notice a
public hearing two weeks before the hearing, and noted that the Outlet Center
Public Hearing would be in two weeks, based on their willingness to proceed
at that time.
Mayor Brinley inquired if former Planning Commissioner Sands would be
present for recognition. City Clerk Kasad indicated that he would not be
present. Mayor Brinley indicated that she would offer thanks, even in his
absence and have his plaque delivered to him.
Mayor Brinley noted that Jeanie Corral would be present to discuss the Unity
in the Community parade.
Mayor Brinley requested details on the Economic Development Corporation
award. City Manager Watenpaugh explained that Ken Seumalo, Rich Hess,
Robin Chipman and Duane Morita played on the City team against the cities
of Murrieta and Temecula and the County of Riverside; and won the
tournament. City Manager Watenpaugh noted that Ken Seumalo would be
leaeing the City for a better opportunity. Mayor Brinley indicated she was
sorry to receive this information and requested that his personnel file reflect
the City°s appreciation of his efforts.
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Consent Calendar
City Manager Watenpaugh noted that there might be someone from the
community present to discuss the plaque for the fire station; and noted a
conversation with a Code Enforcement Officer over the public. Mayor
Brinley indicated that the fire station had already been named and the plaque
information determined. She stressed that this had been in the works for three
or four months, so she would recommend listening and moving on.
Councilwoman Kelley questioned Item #3 regarding the Restroom
Renovation Contract for the Community Center. Councilman Schiffner noted
the wide spread of prices. Councilwoman Kelley noted that the new acoustic
walls had been done and inquired if it was an improvement. City Manager
Watenpaugh confirmed that it was an improvement. Councilwoman Kelley
questioned the source of the grant funds. City Manager Watenpaugh
indicated that they were Community Development Block Grant Funds.
Councilwoman Kelley inquired if the green awnings were being replaced.
Staff confirmed.
Mayor Brinley questioned Item # 5 regarding Needle Cricothyroidotomy.
City Manager Watenpaugh explained the procedure. Councilwoman Kelley
questioned why the procedure was not being done. Councilman Schiffner
noted that 'the County does not permit the procedure. City Manager
Watenpaugh clarified that Riverside County is not the only area to not allow
the procedures; and noted that EMS personnel in San Diego County are not
allowed to use it either. He further clarified that Riverside County has not
allowed the procedure to date, but indicated that it was possible to ask them to
consider it as an option. He stressed that the County has the authority to
make that decision. Councilman Schiffner suggested that this item be pulled
for explanations. Mayor Brinley stressed that it was just offering another
alternative treatment.
Councilwoman Brinley stressed that this was an alternative procedure.
Councilwoman Kelley noted that this request was prompted by a fatality in
Temecula. City Manager Watenpaugh clarified that he was not certain this
would have saved the person.
Mayor Brinley questioned Item #6. City Manager Watenpaugh indicated that
it was ratification of the funding for the Senior Center, which has already
been approved, but now requires ratification.
Mayor Brinley indicated that she would like to pull Item #8 for an update and
noted a conversation over the weekend with a Wildomar resident, who
suggested that the City was holding up the project. She indicated that she
would like to emphasize the City's willingness to cooperate. City Attorney
Leibold indicated that, as she remembered, the County's time frame was for
the project to start the end of September; and indicated that she believed that
the properties would be acquired in time to prevent delays in the County
plans. Councilman Schiffner suggested that any opportunity to explain what
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was happening on the project would be worthwhile. Councilwoman Kelley
noted that this issue was mentioned in an article on Saturday. Councilman
Schiffner indicated that he met with NIr. Bowen from the top of the hill and
he had questions about a variety of issues, including his understanding of the
palm tree removal issue. He noted that much misunderstanding was coming
from the articles in the newspapers. Mayor Brinley indicated that she would
pull items 5 and 8, to allow City Manager Watenpaugh and City Attorney
Leibold address and clarify them.
Mayor Brinley indicated that she felt there would be significant discussion of
Item #31 regarding Animal Control Services. She expressed particular
concern with determining the requirement for canvassing. City Attomey
Leibold indicated that she was unfamiliar with such a mandate; and
commented that she wished that this information had been shared in advance
of the meeting. She expressed hopes that she could clarify the issue before
the meeting. City Manager Watenpaugh indicated that staff had requested
that they bring the legal documentation on this issue.
Councilman Schiffner noted the cost analysis which shows that the City
receives more services than it pays for. He suggested that it might be
appropriate to approve the increase in funding, but require that they come
back ne~ year with better documentation.
Mayor Brinley indicated that she would like to see them go to a fiscal year
system, so the mid-year budget review could address increased funding
needs; and the Council could plan ahead better without going into the -
reserves. She e~ressed concern with the mileage factors for a new van and
noted that the City Manager's car far exceeds that mileage factor.
Councilman Schiffner stressed that the costs are exceeding what the City
pays; and noted that he felt the City intended to pay its fair share, but wanted
to be assured of what was occurring. Mayor Brinley stressed the need for a
fiscal year budget. City Manager Watenpaugh added that one of the things
that would be helpful and appropriate based on the size of the agency would
be an annual certified audit.
Mayor Brinley indicated that she had no problem with the $10,000 increase
for everything they provide, but they are becoming a major operation in the
valley. She stressed the importance of getting a good idea of what each city
was paying. There was general discussion of funding issues. City Manager
Watenpaugh noted the proposed actions, but suggested that Council could
propose another motion as well.
Mayor Brinley noted that she spoke with a woman who had an indoor cat and
was approached at her door; and noted that this was to occur in other cities as
well, but the Councils did not agree. Councilman Schiffner suggested that it
might be appropriate to wait for a bigger objection before taking action. He
indicated that he supported licensing as it appears to save the lives of pets.
Councilwoman Kelley suggested not revisiting this issue. Mayor Brinley
indicated that she would not have an issue with it, except that it was pushed
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harder in the City of Lake Elsinore, than in other cities. Councilman
Schiffner questioned the need to open that issue at the Council meeting. City
Manager Watenpaugh clarified that the Council would need to make a motion
to encompass everything they want done. Councilman Schiffner suggested
that if the issue of cat licensing comes up, it should be directed to a study
session to go through it again.
Councilwoman Kelley indicated that she didn't feel that there was a direction
on cat licensing at this time. She further indicated that she didn't mind the
$10,000, but would like to look at the canvassing issue. Mayor Brinley
stressed the need far an official audit, and indicated that she does not like
going back into the reserves.
Councilwoman Kelley suggested that cat licensing was effective.
Councilman Schiffner indicated that unless a lot of people get up and make
heavy requests, the cat licensing issue should be left alone as much as
possible. City Manager Watenpaugh requested clarification that the Council
was looking at the contract as it is proposed, the $10,000 increase and a
review of the canvassing process. Councilman Schiffner concurred and
suggested revisiting the agreement ne~ year based on new accounting
procedures and a certified audit.
City Manager Watenpaugh requested clarification on the canvassing issue.
Councilman Schiffner indicated that he would like justification for this
process. Councilwoman Kelley indicated that she would prefer that they
didn't canvass. City Manager Watenpaugh suggested that canvassing could
be limited to seeing a stray dog in the field, and allowing them to check it out;
but not allow them to go door to door for canvassing. City Attorney Leibold
noted that they were charging the City personnel costs for canvassing as well.
Mayor Brinley noted that the City Attorney was not aware of the canvassing
requirements, and indicated that she would like that issue clarified. She
suggested that they might have been over zealous in pursuing this issue.
Councilman Schiffner stressed the need for justification, and suggested that
otherwise it might be a fund-raising issue. Mayor Brinley stressed that the law
had been requested and not yet received; and indicated at this time she could
not justify the canvassing. Councilman Schiffner indicated that his biggest
concern with canvassing was how it reflected on the overall costs; and
stressed the need for more information next year.
Mayor Brinley indicated that she did not have a problem with cat licensing at
this time, but stressed the need for an audit and budgetary information. City
Attorney Leibold clarified that there was an existing ordinance for cat
licensing, and any action would need to include direction far staff to bring
back appropriate documentation. City Manager Watenpaugh stressed that the
contract being discussed was with the Council and reiterated that the Council
had the authority to provide direction to staff.
Councilwoman Kelley inquired if cat licensing was a hot button for anyone
else on the Council. Councilman Schiffner indicated that he would like to
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hear more discussion of the benefits of cat licensing in order to address it; but
noted that those paying fees would not like it either way.
Mayor Brinley noted that Item #32 dealt with designating the voting delegate
and the flag carrier for the League Annual Conference.
Mayor Brinley indicated that she had discussed Item #33 with the City
Attorney and found that it was possible to appoint two Nuisance Abatement
Hearing Officers at the Gouncil Meeting. She suggested George Rivera and
David Cheney, noting that they both applied for Planning Commission and
did very well, and are very interested in working with the City. Mayor
Brinley noted that the selection of three people would require a xevision of the
Municipal Code. Councilwoman Kelley suggested appointment of Tim
Crawford as an alternate officer. Community Development Director Brady
clarified the Code, noting that it reads Planning Commissioners or other
persons as appointed by the City Manager. City Attorney Leibold indicated
that she would like to look at the Code prior to the meeting to be sure of the
requirements. Mayor Brinley questioned the ability to appoint an alternate.
City Manager Watenpaugh indicated that it was not included in the Code, but
indicated that there shouldn't be a problem for him to serve as an alternate.
Councilman Schiffner noted that it might be appropriate to consider changing
the Ordinance in some manner to allow for three representatives; and
suggested that the manner of appointment should be changed when possible.
Mayor Brinley inquired if this appointment was for a period of four years.
Community Development Director Brady indicated that there was no set
term. Mayor Brinley suggested a two year service period. Councilman =
Schiffner suggested that the term could be included when the ordinance is
revised. Mayor Brinley suggested that the term be set at two years, with a
review prior to continuing for additional time. City Attorney Leibold
indicated that she would review this issue further and advise the Council of
any problems prior to the Council meeting.
Mayor Brinley indicated that Item #34 regarding the Statement of
Cooperation with EVMWD was a great door of opportunity to build a bridge.
Councilman Schiffner noted that upon review of the proposed statement,
there should be nothing to offend anyone. City Manager Watenpaugh noted •
that staff and Council had reviewed the document and the press was provided
a copy earlier today, due to the sensitivity of issues with EVMWD. He noted
that EVMWD would be considering the same statement on August 9`~'.
Mayor Brinley noted that Item #35 regarding the towing ordinance was
proposed for continuance for resolution of outstanding issues. Councilman
Schiffner questioned the problems with the ordinance. City Manager
Watenpaugh indicated that staff went back and met with the towing
companies and they had an issue with the franchise fee. He further indicated
that they wanted to see a complete franchise agreement, which had now been
prepared, but another meeting was pending. City Attorney Leibold indicated
that the documents had been prepared and reviewed, but Chief Walsh was
trying to assure that everyone had a chance to comment. She indicated that it
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would come back to Council as soon as possible.
Committee Reports
Councilwoman Kelley noted that she had been attending the Chamber
meetings and could comment on their activities.
Councilwoman Kelley indicated that she was not aware of the Joint Powers
Insurance Authority meetings. Staff clarified that they are quarterly and
Administrative Services Director Boone had been attending on behalf of the
Council.
Councilman Schiffner requested that Assistant City Manager Best comment
on the Economic Development Corporation. Assistant City Manager Best
indicated that she did receive their annual report and could provide an update.
Mayor Brinley noted that the ne~ Crime free multi-housing seminar was
scheduled for Thursday, August 10'i'; and nine property managers were pre-
registered.
Councilwoman Kelley indicated that the Satisfy 2020 Meeting would be on
August 11~'. Councilman Schiffner noted that he received a copy of the
agenda for' that meeting, but he was not on the distribution list.
Councilwoman Kelley noted that Community Development Director Brady
also attended these meetings.
Councilman Schiffner noted a meeting at WRCOG yesterday on the multi-
species issue. City Attorney Leibold noted some of the City Attorneys met
last week with County Counsel to address CEQA issues raised by John
McClendon. She advised that Murrieta, Temecula, the County and Lake
Elsinore were present at the meeting; and the legal consensus was that the
regional fee constitutes a project so the CEQA requirements will need to be
satisfied. Councilman Schiffner noted that WRCOG has a variety of
committees with a variety of ineetings. Councilwoman Kelley noted that her
committee had not met in six months, but the technical committee had been
meeting regularly. Councilman Schiffner commented that it seemed a
number of groups were studying the Integrated Plan and Multi-species issues.
City Manager Watenpaugh concurred that the County, cities and WRCOG
were all addressing it.
Closed Session
City Manager Watenpaugh indicated that the Closed Session discussion this
evening would be quite long. City Attorney Leibold highlighted the items for
discussion; and noted that the Cleveland Ridge item would be postponed,
unless a ruling was received this afternoon.
Mayor Brinley thanked staff for their participation in the agenda review.
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ADJOURNMENT
The Study Session was adjourned at 4:46 p.m.
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PAMELA B EY, MAYa
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
ATTEST:
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VICHI KASAD, MC, CITY CLERK
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE