HomeMy WebLinkAbout06-11-2002 City Council MinutesMINUTES
REGULAR CiTY COITNCIL MEETiNG
CiTY OF LAKE ELSiNORE
183 NORTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CALiFORN1A
TUESDAY, JUNE 11, 2002
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CALL TO ORDER
The Regular City Couneil Meeting was called to order by Mayor Pro Tem Schiffner
at 5:00 p.m.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: COUNCILMEMBERS:
ABSENT: COUNCILMEMBERS:
BUCKL,EY, HICKMAN,
SCHIFFNER
BRINLEY, KELLEY
(Councilwoman Brinley
arrived at 5:20 p.m.)
(Mayor Kelley arrived at 7:53
p.m.)
Also present were: Assistant City Manager Best, City Attorney Leibold,
Administrative Services Director Boone, Community Development Director
Brady, Community Services Director Sapp, Information/Communications
Manager Dennis, and Deputy City Clerk Paredes.
City Manager Watenpaugh arrived at 5:30 p.m.
CLOSED SESSION
A. CONFERENCE WiTH LABOR NEGOTiATOR (Pursuant to
Government Code Section 54957.8} - United Public Employees of California,
LNNA Loca1 777.
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B. CONFERENCE WITH LEGAL COUNSEL EXISTING LITIGATION
(Subdivision (a) of Gov't Code §54956.9) City of Lake Elsinore v. Elsinore
Valley Municipal Water District (Riverside Superior Court Case #35961).
City Attorney Leibold announced that the Council would only be discussing Item
B, as listed above, in Closed Session.
TNE REGULAR C1TY COUNCIL NIEETING WAS RECESSED TO
CLOSED SESSION AT 5:01 P.M.
RECONVENE PUBLiC SESSION (7:00 p.m.)
Mayar Rro Tem Schiffner reconvened the Regular Ciry Council Meeting in Public
Session at 7:01 p.m.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGiANCE
The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Councilman Buckley.
iNVOCATiON
The Invocation was provided by Arno1d Estrella, Director, representing Foursquare
Church; Victory Life Training Center.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: COI7NCiLMEMBERS: BRINLEY, BiJCKi,EY,
AiCKMAN, SCFIiFFNER
ABSENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: KELLEY
(Mayor Kelley arrived at ?:53
p.m.)
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Also present were: City Manager Watenpaugh, Assistant City Manager Best,
City Attorney Leibold, Administrative Services Director Boone, Community
Development Director Brady, Community Services Director Sapp, Police Lt.
Snodgra;ss; City Engineer O'Donnelt; Informxtion/Communications Manager
Dennis, City Treasurer Ferro and City Clerk/Fiuman Resources Director
Kasad.
PRESENTATIONS
a. Presentation - Korn Memorial Scholarshibs.
Tnfiormation/Communications Manager Dennis explarned the Korn Memorial
Scholarship program, which was established to provide scholarships to
students interested in medicine and health care studies.
He introduced each recipient and highlighted their backgrounds and goals.
He presented Certi~cates of Achievement to Monique C. Shipp, Jonathan
Walsten and Kathryn E. Pitts, and noted that each student received a$1,000
scholarship. Nicholas M. Coburn was noted preserit for presentation, but his
award and background was also noted. Each student extended thanks to
those helping them to achieve this award.
b. Proclamation - Amateur Radio Week.
Mayor Pro Tem Schiffner read and presented the Amateur Radio Week
Proclamation to Don Foster. Mr. Foster thanked the Council for this
recognition and explained their work in support of the Riverside County Fire
Department, Emergency Services Division. He further explained their area
of coverage and their abiliry to provide emergency communications in the
event of an emergency.
a Presentation - Lake Elsinore/San Jacinto Watershed Authorit~pdate.
Mark Norton provided a status report ou the Watershed Authority, and
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highlighted ongoing projects such as the Carp & Shad Removal, Island Well
Retrofit, Addition of Recycled Water; Aeration System, Galcium :
Application, Program to address upstream watershed areas, eta He noted
the fund'mg source and the additional funds which could be e~ended in
dealing with Lake-issues. _ ,
Councilman Hickman noted that he would like to see the wark move more
quickly. Mr. Norton expressed understanding of the sense of urgency, but
noted the State approval process for project.
Councilwoman Brinley inquired if there had been thought to filing for an
extension before 2003, noting the requirement to use the money by that time.
Mr. Norton indicated that they had talked with the State, and while the
original guidelines were for three years, it was hoped that they wouldbe able
to extend the deadline to July, 2004 to get al} the contracts in to the State;
however that had not yet been confirmed: Councilwoman Brinley stressed
the need to pursue that extension with the Board, so nothing is lost to the
` State's fmancial crunch.
Cauncilman Buckley had not questions or comments.
Mayor Pro Tem Schiffner thanked Mr. Norton for his update.
d. Presentation - Chamber of Commerce Update.
Chris McColley, Executive Director; Chamber of Commerce; noted the
upcoming Chamber activities. She noted the first annual scholarship night
and congratulated their six winnersof $1,000 scholarships. She indicated
that they were already raising funds for neat year's event. She announced the
EDC Lunch planned for June 13~', at the Diamond Stadium; with the
Association of Realtors providing information on area demographics and real
estate statistics, and Community Development Director Brady presenting
information on new construction andmajor projects. She
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announced the June Mixer to be co-sponsored byAmerican Printing and
Wildomar Heating and Cooling on June 27~' at American Printing. She also
announced the Chamber's first Reverse Drawing scheduled for July 18t'' at
the Diamond. She advised that information on all of the above-mentioned
events was a~ailable on their website at ~w.~e~~.~om or by calling the
Chamber of#ice. She also announced the Business Expo to be held
September 14`" at the Walrnart Center, and detailed the Expo. She noted that
the Chamber Website received 200,000 hits a month. She congratulated
Highgrove Restaurants on their Business of the Month recognition.
CLOSED SESSlON REPORT
City Attomey Leibold announced that two items were listed on the agenda, but only
discussed Item B. She advised that this item would be discussed further as part of
item 35 on this agenda.
PUSLIC COMMENTS - AGENDIZED ITEMS
Requests.:were recerved to address the following items and deferred to those
discussions:
3tem I~Ios: 4; 34 and 36.
CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS
The following item was pulled from the Consent Calendar for further discussion
and consideration:
Item No. 4.
MOVED BY BUCKLEY, SECONDED BY BRiNLEY AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE OF TIiOSE PRESENT TO APPROVE T13E
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BALANCE OF THE CONSENT CALENDAR AS PRESENTED.
1. The following Minutes were received and ordered filed:
a. Planning Gommission Meeting - May 15, 2002.
2. Rati~ed Warrant List for May 31, 2002.
3. Rejected and referred to Claims Administrator for handling the Claim
Against the City submitted by Rafael Avatos (CL #2002-12)
PUBLIC HEARING
None.
BUSINESS ITEMS
31. Master Plan of Draina~e - Annual Increase of Fees - Resolution No. 2002-24.
City Manager Watenpaugh noted the Budget process was underway and staff
was reviewing annual fees for updates. Community Development Director
Brady explained this item and noted that the original plan was adopted in
1991, and established various districts in the Ciry to establish the cost of
putting in the storm drains for those areas. He advised that the fee was based
on a per acre basis, and was last adjusted in June, 2000. He further advised
that this year's recommended increase was 4.5%, and clarified that it was
only rmposed on new developments. He noted that the new fee would be in
effect on Ju1y 11, 2002.
Councilman Hickman indicated that he had no questions, but noted his
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understanding that these were fees paid a the'time of development and
represented future business:
Counciiwoman Brinley had no problems or comments on this item.
Councilman Buckley had no questions or comments on this item.
MOVED BY BRINLEY, SECONDED BY FiICKMAN AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE OF THOSE PRESENT TO APPROVE RESOLUTION
NO. 2002-24 INCREASING THE MASTER PLAN OF DRAINAGE FEES.
RESOLUTION NO. 2002-24
A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCII, OF THE CITY OF
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA, INCREASiNG THE DRAINAGE
FEES OF THE MASTER PLAN fJF DRAINAGE.
32. Adoption of Resolurions Extending the Abandoned Vehicle Abatement
Program (A.V.A.). - Resolution No. 2002-25.
City Manager Watenpaugh highlighted this item. Community Development
Director Brady explained that this item was based on auYhority established in
1994, setting a$1 fee to assist with removal of abandoned vehicies from
pubtic or private property. He advised that Code Enforcement had used it as
a tool and it assisted with the NET program. He advised that in the first half
of this year 83 vehicles had been removed and the City had received over
$8,500 from the program: He explained that the current program will expire
in May of 2004, and it was being considered early because the County had
requested a show of support for a continued program so they can lobby the
State.
Councilman Hickman inquired where the cars go when they are removed.
Community Development Director Brady indicated that he wasn't certain
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bnt believed they were sold or auctioned, and offered to confirm the process.
Councilman Hickman commented that if they were good quality vehicles,
possibly they could be obtained for assistance organizations. City Manager
Watenpaugh indicated that when the_tow companies remove these vehicles,
they tow them for free, so the companies are given the vehicles to recoup
costs. Councilman Hickman noted that he was hoping to help area
organizations.
Councilwoman Brinley expressed support.`
Councilman Buckley had no comments.
MOVED BY BRINLEY, SECONDED BY HICKMAN AND CARRIED BY
UNANiMOUS VOTE OF TAOSE PRESENT TO ADOPT RESOLIJTION
NO. 2002 2.5'FOR TAE EXTENSiON OF TAE ABANDONED VEHiCLE
ABATE]ViENT PROGRAM UNTTL MAY 3~, 2014.
33. Second Reading - Ordinance No. 1081 - relating to Traffic lm~act Fees.
Ciry Manager Watenpaugh highiighted this item noting that it would go into
effect 60 days after this reading.
Councilman Hickman inquired how builderswith pads established would be
impacted by this Ordinance: City Manager Watenpaugh noted that the
effective date had been delayed 60 days to give them a longer period to
complete projects and gain occupancy before it begins. Community
Developrr-ent Director Brady clarified the impact of the delay. Councilman
Hickman inquired if a letter had gone to the developers. Community
Development Director Brady confirmed.
Councilwoman Brinley also asked if a letter had gone out to the developers.
Community Development Directar-Brady confirtned.
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Councilman Buckley had no comments.
Mayor Pro Tem Schiffner expressed support.
MOVED BY BRINLEY, SECONDED BY BUCKLEY TO ADOPT
ORDINANCE NO. 1081 UPON SECOND ItEADING BY TITLE ONLY:
ORDINANCE NO. 1081
AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSYNORE,
CALTFORNiA, ADDTNG CAAPTER 16.74 TO TiTLE l6 OF TF[E
LAKE ELSINORE MIJ1vICIPAL CODE ESTABLISHING ~EES ON
DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS.
AYES: COUNCILMEMBER5:
BRiNLEY, BUCKLEY,
HICKMAN, SCHIF'FNER
NOES: COITNCILMEMBERS:
ABSENT: COUNCILMEMBERS:
NONE
KELLEY
ABSTAiN: COIJNGILMENTBERS: NONE
34. Second Readin~ - Ordinance No. 1082 - relating to Animals and Animal
Control Officers.
City Manager Watenpaugh highlighted this item:
MAYOR KELLEY ARRTVED AT 7:53 PM. AND APOLOGIZ~D FOR FIER
LATENESS iN ARRiV[NG DITE TO AER SCHOOL OPEN HOIJSE.
Councilman Buckley had no comments.
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Councilman Hickman expressed support.
Councilwoman Brinley had no comments.
Mayor Fro Tem Schiffner had no comments.
Mayor Kelley had no comments.
MOVED BY BRINLEY, SECONDED BY BUCKLEY TO ADOPT
ORDINANCE NO. 1082, UPON SECOND READING BY TITLE ONLY:
` ORDINANCE NO. 1082
AN ORDINANCE OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSiNORE,
CALIFORNIA, ADDINC, AMENDING AND DELETING
DESIGNATED SECTIONS OF CAAPTER 6.04 OF TI~E LAKE
ELSINORE MUNICIPAL CODE REGARDING ANIMALS AND
ANIMAL CONTROL OFFICERS.
UPON TAE FOLLOWING ROLL CALL VOTE:
AYES: COUNCILMEMBERS: BRINLEY, BUCKLEY,
HICKMAN, SC1i1FFNER;
KELLEY
NOES: COUNCILMEMBERS: NONE
ABSENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: NONE
ABSTAIN: COUNCILMEIVIBERS: NONE
35. Letter of A~reement with Elsinore Vallev Municipal Water District re~ing
Island Wells.
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City Manager Watenpaugh noted that this item:was addxessed in Closed
Session and the City Attorney would provide a.~synopsis.
City Attorney Leibold stated that several months ago the City and EVMWD
agreed to stand down from the pending lawsuit filed by the City in favor of
working together toward a mutually agreeable comprehensive settlement.
She eaplained that The City:and EVMWD had engaged in settlement
discussions and attorneys representing the parties had prepared a working
draft Comprehensive Water Management Agreement. She indicated that the
agreement incorporates certain ageements in connection with the Island
Wells, namely funding by the Lake Elsinore and San Jacinto Watershed
Authority from State grant funds for the rehabilitation of the wells and a
50/50 cost sharing by and between the City and EVNIWD of operation and
Maintenance. She further indicated that on May 23; EVMWD approved a
Crrant Funding Contract between EVMWD and the LESJWA to fmance
refurbishrnent of the Island Welis. She explained that Section 8 of the
Coniract requires EVMWD to operate and maintain the Island Wells for 20
years. City Attomey Leibold stated that the EVMWD Board approval was
conditioned on the City "acknowledging for purpose of the Grant Funding
Contract only that all costs associated with operation and mainteuance of the
Island Wells Project will be shared equally by the Ciry and EVMWD, except
as otherwise madified by later agreement between the City and EVMWD."
She noted that during the City Attoxney comments at the May 28, 2002 City
Council Meeting, EVMWD delivered a letter to the City requesting
unrnediate consideration of certain issues involving the Isiand Wells. She
indicated that EVMWD delivered a letter to the City requesting immediate
consideration of certain issues involving the Island Wells: She explained that
unfortunately, the letter was delivered during the Councii's closed sessian
discussions on other matters and the City did not ha~e the oppofianity to
review the letter or evaluate the requests. City Attorney Leibold indicated
that the May 28~' letter from EVMWD counset was presented to and
discussed by the Ciry Council earlier this evening in closed session. She
stated that she would summarize the discussions and requested that the
Council take action on the issue this evening under Agenda ltem
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No. 35. She noted that the Ciry Gouncil was optimistic about settlement and
has directed her to continue. these negotiations with an eye:toward resolution
as soon as possible. She indicated that the City Council approved the "pay
one halP' concept`forpurposes of the Grant Funding Agreement outlined in
the May 28`h letter from EVMWI) subject to the following conditions:
L EVMWD and the: City will enter into a comprehensive
settlement agreement which specifically defines eligible
operation and maintenance costs; and
2. The City's action to approve the cost sharing concept for
purposes of the Grant Funding Agreement does not waive any
claim or cause of action in the pending lawsuit, and cannot be
used by EVMWD against the City in the lawsuit should
settlement efforts fail.
City Attorney Leibold indicated that upon approval and execution bg
EVMWD and the City of a Settlement Agreement the lawsuit would be
dismissed and the Agreement would serve as the governing document
defining the rights and responsibilities of the City and EVMWD against the
City m the lawsuit should settlement efforts fail.
Councilman Buckley indieated that he supported moving forward as soon as
possible, but he would like the word "responsibility" included with regard to
the City's payment for operarion and maintenance costs. He commented that
he was in favor of coming to this agreement topay 1/2 the costs, as he felt
they were a City responsibility to the entire community.
City Manager Watenpaugh commented for the public that it was the
Council's direction as part of the budget process to allocate $650,000 to
purchase water for the Lake and $150,000 for potential operating costs of the
wells, as line items in the budget.
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Councilwoman Brinley noted her comments were the same as Mr.
Watenpaugh's and noted that the breakdown of the shared costs for the wells
was provided in Closed Session.
Councilman Hickman commented that the public waned the City to work
with the Water Department and to see the water flow. He noted that hurdles
had been jumped to get to this point, and stressed that the ultimate goal was
to get water in the Lake.
Mayor Pro Tem Schiffiier indicated that he was in favor of this agreement, as
a necessary step in the concept of the division of costs, as stated by the City
Attorney: He indicated that he was in favor of including those conditions
and approving the project as a whole.
Mayor Kelley noted that the City had worked with EVMWD over the past 2-
1/Z years to settle the disputes, and were getting close to resolution. She
comrnented that this approval should take the discussion over the fuush line
for settlement, as long as the disputed items are not waived and the City
rights are protected.
MOVED BY BRINLEY, SECONDED BY BiJCKLEY AND CARRiED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO APPROVE TFIE LETTER OF AGREElVIENT
WITH EVMWD REGARDING ISLAND WELLS WITH THE
FOLLOWING COND1T10NS.
L EVMWD and the. City will enter into:a comprehensive
settlement agreement which specifically de~nes eligible
operation and maintenance costs; and
2. The City's astion to approve the cost sharing concept for
purposes of the Grant Funding Agreement does not waive
any claim or cause of action in the pending lawsuit, and
cannot be used by EVMWD against the City in the lawsuit
should settlement efforts fail.
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36. Formation of Citv Council Subcommittee for Plannin~Commission
Apnointments.
Mayor Kelley explained that she had requested that this item be placed on the
,Agenda as a placeholder, noting that she fargot to appoint the committee at
the last meeting. She requested a volunteer to join in interviewing the 12
applicants for Planning Commissiorr.
Chris Hyland, 15181 Wavecrest, indicated that in her opinion, only the
applicants supporting the City Council would be appointed. She questioned
how many puppets the Council could afford to appoint. She commented on
the cost of management, litigation and City Attorney fees, and stressed the
need for change to the makeup of City government. She urged the Councii
majority vote to fight for the appointment of those applicants who were
"against the grain".
Gity Manager Watenpaugh clarified that there were actually 13 applicants,
and it would be helpfui to have a subcommittee to review them. Mayor
Kelley clarified that this was a Mayor's appointment, subject to approval by
the Council. She expressed her preference that a couple of representatives
interview the applicants and make recommendations. She noted that she had
no personal Planning Commission e~cperience and would welcome mput.
She listed the applicants and noted that there were some new narnes and
some familiar ones.
Councilmembers Brinley and Hickman expressed an. interest in participating.
Mayor Pro Tem Schiffner suggested that the Chairman of the Planning
Commission could assist with the interviews. He noted that he would be glad
to participate, but felt it would be more patatable if someone else was
involved, and reiterated that Chairman Barnes would be a good choice.
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Mayor Kelley suggested Commissioner Barnes and Councilmembers Brinley
and Hickman participate. Councilwoinan Brinley questioned the date. City
Attorr-ey Leibold expressed concern with the involvement of three
Councilmernbers. Mayor Kelley noted that there were 13 people and not a11
of them cauld be interviewed at once. Councilwoman Brinley suggested that
Cornmission Barnes and Councilman Hickman set.on the subcommittee and
offered to serve as the alternate.
Councilman Buclciey questioned the agenda packet and suggested that an
item be provided for each agenda item listed. He suggested that it was
disconcerting to not have backup information.
Mayor Pro Tem Schiffner commented that Planning Comrnission
appointments occurred once every two years and this was merely a place
holder. City Manager Watenpaugh indicated that a report could be prepared
similar to Item 35 of this agenda.
ITEMS PULLED FROM THE CONSENT CALENDAR
4. CR & R Annual CPT Increase - Reiizse Collection, Rec.~g
& Disposal.
Chris Hyland, 15191 Wavecrest, indicated that this had been a pet peeve of
hers for a long time. She noted that she had looked for her ~les, but could
not locate them. She expressed concern that the fees were higher than in other
cities, as the Cities of Canyon Lake and Temecula take only 8% in Franchise
Fees. She suggested that Lake Elsinore chose to be greedy as the Franchise
Fee was 20%. She indicated that CR & R does a great job of cleaning the
streets and picking up trash, but suggested that the City lower the fee to allow
for a reduced fee to the residents.
Councilman Hickman noted that he discovered when readrng the contract
that the contract rolls over every year for a ten year extension. He indicated
while he liked the service, he wished they would sweep a little
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more often. He further indicated that he.would like to reconsider the 20%
after studying the budget to see what aid they provide. He addressed placing
this bill on the t~ roll and suggested further review of the contract. He
indicated that he wished he could put his bill on the tax rolls to write it off.
Councilwoman Brinley commented that individuals could request that it be
placed on the tax'roll. Councilman Hickman quesrioned the ability to do so.
David Fahrion, President, CR & R, confirmed that residents could request
placement of their bills on the tax rolls. He also noted that delinquent
accounts were placed on the roils for non-payment, but CR & R continues to
collect the trash. He reiterated the ability to request placement af bills on the
tax rolls.
Councilwoman Brinley had no problem with this item.
Councilman Buckley reiterated concerns far the term of the contract, noting
that he had no problem with the services provided. He suggested bringing
the contact back to a study session to: address the length of the 'contract,
expressing concern for a 10 year contract with automatic extensions forever.
He noted that his concern was not with CR & R or the service; but it was an
early 90's contract which was inappropriate.
Mayor Pro Tem Schiffner noted far the benefit of the City Manager and
Mayor, at the earlier study session, Council directed the Assistant City
Manager to arrange a study sessionto discuss this matter and the contract, as
it was considered undesirable by some members of the Council.
Mayor Kelley noted the request far study session, and suggested moving
forward with item in the meantime.
MOVED BY SCHIFFNER, SECONDED BY BUCKI.EY AND CARRIED
BY UNANIMOUS VOTE-TO APPROVE THE CPi iNCREASE IN RATES
FOR REFIJSE COLLECTiON,RECYCLiNG AND DiSPOSAL 1N
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ACCORDANCE WITH THE CITY'S CONTRACT WITH CR&R AND
MAKiNG THE NEW RATES EFFECTIVE JIJLY l, 2002.
TAC REGULAR CiTY COUNCiL MEETING WAS RECESSED AT $:l8
P.M.
THE CiTY COUNCiL MEETING RECONVENED AT 8:31 P.M.
PUBLIC CONIlV~NTS - NON-AGENDIZED ITEMS
Chris Hyland, 15191 Wa~ecrest; thanked all of thepeople who supported Citizens
Against New Taxes, and noted that the ballot submittal deadline, with a"no" vote
was June 25`~'._ She thanked the supporters for passing out flyers and providing
fmancial assistance. She encouraged a"no" vote on the assessment.
Pete Dawson, 18010 Grand Auenue, provided the LEMSAR Report for May, 2002,
noting that it was a relatively uneventful month with assistance provided to the :
usual stranded boaters. He;noted the.positive impact of law enforcement in
mamtaining a safe lake. He commented as a member of the Southshore
Homeowners Association, and expressed concern regarding the agreement beiween
the City and Water District. -He noted the riparian owners access rights to the Lake
and the potential thatthey would be impacted by the introduction of foreign waters
into the Lake, to the exclusion,of other waters. He commented that he believed the
intent was not to hurt the property owners and suggested language be added to the
agreement that there was no intent to change private properry owners riparian
rights. He expressed support for LESJWA's efforts to ciean up the Lake, but
expressed concern with funds being spent on Canyon Lake. He stressed that
Canyon Lake was a private lake and noted the need to show benefit of the
improvements to the public at large. He commented that the Carp removal efforts
were too sma11 to be effective and suggested that at the current rate they would
completed the project in 120 yeazs.
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Edith Stafford., 29700 Hursh, commented regarding logic, and expressed hopes that
the Council would use logic in selecting Plan~ing Commissioners. She noted that
she had been around a long time and hadn't seen a lot of logic, as the Council
seemed to vote toward self interest. She indicated that she can read between the
lines and things don't seem kosher, but she hasn't pinpointed the problem yet: She
indicated that the latest unpropriety had her dander up, and suggested not giving her
a reason to "burn" the Council. She stressed that she would be persistent in
pursuing inconsistencies. She indicated that if Ca1PERS did not send the check,
there would probably be a civil lawsuit.
Gany Crrant, 27068 Jarvis Street, indicated that he spoke at the last meeting in good
faith. Ne noted comments by the City Manager in relationship to Lake problems,
that the Lake could not be given back as the State was broke or in debt. He
suggested that keeping the Lake was going to cost every man, woman and child in
the City $1S0 per year for the next 20 years: He commented that the water that
lea~es the lake has to be paid for, and stressed that the burden and cost of the Lake
was too great for the people of Lake Elsinore and EVMWI) clients. He addressed
improvements to the Lake since 1984, and stressed the cost of 20 years of
maintenance, and suggested that the residents would be taxed for iY either directly or
indirectly.
Ron LaPere, 16867 Wells Street, advised that he had reviewed the brochure for the
Park Assessment and commended its developer on an excelient job. He noted that
it raised some questions for concerned senior citizens in is area and'he was having a
meeting to discuss the issues prior to the June 25`~' meeting to better understand the
information. He announced a meeting at his home on June 22°d at 1 p.m. and
expressed hopes that staff would be able to attend and answer sorne of the
questions.
Lonaine Watts, 210 N. Scrivener, invited everyone to attend the Juneteenth Picnic
being sponsored by the African American Outreach Committee and the NAACP.
She explained the origins of Juneteenth, commemorating the end of sla~ery in
Texas. She announced that the event would be held at Murrieta Elementary School
Park on B Street in Murrieta, and presented flyers providing details. She noted that
they wanted to hold the event in Lake Elsinore, but they couldn't fmd an
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available park. She noted that theyloaked at Lakepoint Park, but the event would
conflict with the soccer players. She further detailed the Juneteenth event and
encouraged participation.
Jim Morris, 15220 Golden Sands, thanked Council for the opportunity to speak and
noted that he wanted to talk about rubbish and street sweeping. He suggested
cutting the budget to ha~e the streets swept once a month on some streets. He noted
that he had not seen anything on his street that needed sweeping, except in the fa11.
He suggested time and money could be save in this area. He commented that the
street sweeping on Erankiin Street was removing the remairung pavement. He
suggested renegotiating the sweeping schedule. He noted that while he appreciated
the service, there might be a way to cut some expenses.
Ace Vallejos, 15231 Cobre, addressed the Park Assessmentand read excerpts of
the ballot in Spanish.
CITY MANAGER COMMENTS
City Manager Watenpaugh commented on the following:
: 1) Congratulated the students on their Korn Memorial Scholarships.
2) Thanked Mr. Foster far the Amateur Radio efforts.
CiTY ATTORNEY COMMENTS
No Comments.
COMNi[TTEE REPORTS
No Reports. .
CiTY COiJNCiL COMMENTS
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Councilman Buckley commented on the following:
I) Indicated that he was glad that negotiations were moving forward with
the Water District and LESJWA was spending money on projects.
2) Indicated that whether he was for or against the park tax, the most
troubling issue was the execution of the process. He noted that there
appeared to be a number of problems, the latest being the translation
issue of °ticket" vs. "ballot°. He indicated that he had hoped a
professional firm would be more cautious. He expressed concern with
those who did not receive a ballot, such as Councilwoman Brinley's
neighborhood. He indicated that he was troubled but the format, as it
was known going in that the results woulfl be flawed. He suggested
that the consistent drip of little probiems made the process look really
sloppy He encouraged everyone to vote.
3) Noted that he attended the Plasuiing Commission Study Session last
Wednesday regazding the Country Club Heights Overlay District and
indicated that he appreciated the comments by Commissioner Barnes,
that it was an"eclectic" neighborhood. He noted that the Commission
seemed to want to encourage development and concurred with hiring a
consultant to get the process rnoving as soon as possible.
4) Advised that everyone's e-mail was working at City Hall, and provided
the address.
5) Noted his office hours in City Ha11 on Tuesdays from Noon to 4 p.m.
Councilman Hickman commented on the following:
1) Congratulated the Chamber of Commerce and Sally Meyers for the six
scholarships provided to students. He indicated that it was very
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2) reassuring to see the quality of kids receiving the awards. He
suggested that it help balance' concerns about the future.
3) Congratulated the NAACP on providing two scholarships.
4) Indicated that the people in "Tuscana" were due an apology, as the kids
participating on the Soccer field did not have authorization ot use the
park.
5) Indicated that NAACP was due an apology as well for not being :able
to use Citypark for picnics.
6) Announced the Wornen's Ciub trip to the Laguna Arts Festival on June
17~` .
7) Commented on the Reverse Raffle presented by the Chamber, and
noted that it would be very exciting to attend.
8) Advised that he attended the Rod Run and it was excellent, with cars
most only dream about
9) Announced a play and dinner being presented by First Presbyterian
Chuxch.
10) Announced that the Beach Boys would be in town on September 215Y
at the Stadium.
11) Encouraged everyone to vote.
Councilwoman Brintey commented on the following:
1) Congratulated the Korm Memorial Scholarship recipients, and
expressed pride in the students of Lake Elsinore:
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2) Congratulated Don Foster on his time and effort invested in the
Community and wished his wife Kay a speedy recovery from surgery.
3) Commented on the park assessment ballots and reiterated that people
with no ballots should contact City Hall; and noted that Council
wanted residents to vote. She stressed that voting was a right and a
privilege.
4) Addressed Mr. LaPere and commented him for inviting his neighbozs
to get more information, and expressed hopes that staff would be
a~ailable to assist him. She noted questions on the three mile radius
and requested that the City Manager clarify that issue. City Manager
Watenpaugh explained that this was based on the national standard,
and people outside the three mile radius could not vote. He noted that
a small portion of the Serenity Tract was not within the radius, so they
would not be assessed at this time; as well as a sma11 area in the North
Peak Specific Plan area. Councilwoman Brinley reannounced the
meeting at Mr. La Pere's house on June 22~ and provided his address
and phone number.
5) Noted that her three grandchildren Steven, Maddy and Lucy were with
her this month.
Mayor Pro Tem Schiffner commented on the following:
1) Congratulated the Korn Memorial winners on their awards.
2) Congratulated the Students of the Year on their awazds.
3) Indicated that he was extremely proud of all of the siudents in Lake
Elsinore and noted that he had attended a lot of awards programs. He
noted that he was extremely impressed by the quality of Lake
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4) Elsinore young people. He also expressed pride in the business people
who help to provide the recognition programs.
5) Noted comments about greed by the Council relating to trash collection
and indicated that he did not understand that comment, since the
money pays for services.
6) Noted that while netting fish might take a while, it took less time than
~shing derbies trying to catch them.
7) Noted that he received an e-mail from a very upset individual,
suggesting he:had to pay the park assessment when others didn't. He
noted that except for a few exceptions, everyone was being assessed.
8) Addressed the election and the related problems, noting that any
technical problems were not intentional. He commented that other
elections such as presidential elections had intentional discrepancies,
but in general, elections were done by people and there was always the
potential for mistakes.
9) Addressed comments by Mr. Gil Rasmussen who had singled him out
_ at the last meeting for unfair comrnents, noting that he had not
responded as he felt the City Manager had adequately addressed it. He
noted that he had been accused of taking money far insurance he did
not get. He clarified that he had applied for insurance and shortly after
that found out that it would conflict with his existing insurance and
caricelled' if. He noted that he was not sure if it was reflected on a bill,
but he had never received any money for it and had no coverage. He
e~ressed resentment at the implication and noted that he felt Mr.
Rasmussen knew the truth on this matter, making his comments even
worse. He indicated that they anything he had done as a Ciry
representative was open to scrutiny by anybody, and suggested that
they could look all they wanted and won't find anything wrong.
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Mayor Kelley commented on the following:
1) Thanked and congratulated the Chamber on the Student of the Year
event last week, noting that there were many wonderful students and a
wonderful ceremony. She noted that the City was well represented
with Councilmembers Hiclrnian, Schiffner and herself present. She
thanked the Chamber and all ofi the participating businesses.
2) Congratulated the Graduates of the two high schools and wished them
well.
3) Announced the Composting workshop on June 15th at the Seniar
Center at 10 a.m.
4) Announced the Little League Tournament of Champions.
ADJOiJRNMENT
MOVED BY BUCKLEY, SECONDED BY BRINLEY AND CARRI.ED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO ADJOURN THE REGULAR CITY COUNCIL
MEETING AT 9:13 P.M.
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G KELLEY, MA~~~
Y OF LAKE ELSINORE
CITY CLERK/
A[JMAN RESOURCES DIRECTOR