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REGULAR CiTY COUNCiL MEETTNG
CTTY OF LAKE ELSINORE
183 NORTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CALlFORNLA
TUESDAY, MAY 28, 2002
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CALL TO ORDER
The Regular City Council Meeting was called to order by Mayor Kelley at 5:09 p.m.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: COiTNCILMEMBERS:
BRINLEY, BUCKLEY,
ffiCKMAN, SCHIFFNER,
KELLEY
ABSENT: COUNCILMEMBERS:
NONE
Aiso present were: City Manager Watenpaugh, Assistant City Manager Best,
City Attorney Leibold, Administrative Services Director Boone, Community
Development Director Brady, Community Services Director Sapp,
Engineering Manager O'Donnell, Information/Communications Manager
Dennis, Deputy City Clerk Paredes, and City CIerWHuman Resources
Director Kasad.
CLOSED SESSION
A. CONFERENCE WITH LABOR NEGOTIATOR (Pursuant to Government
Code Section 54957.8) - United Public Ernpioyees of California, LIIJNA
Local 777.
City Attorney Leibold announced the Closed Session discussion itern as listed
above.
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TFIE REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING WAS RECESSED TO
CLOSED SESSION AT 5:10 P.M.
The Closed Session discussion was completed at 6:55 p.m.
RECONVENE PUBLIC SESSION
Mayor Kelley reconvened the Regular City Council Meeting 'vn public session at
7:06 p.m.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
The Pledge of Allegiance wasled by City Clerk/Human Resources Director Kasad.
INVOCATION
The Invocation was provided by Father Robert Guerrero; representing St. Francis of
Rome Church.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT;
COI1NCiLMEMBERS:
BRINLEY, BUCKLEY,
HiCKMAN, SCHiFFNER,
KELLEY
ABSENT:
COUNCILMEMBERS:
NONE
Also present were: City Manager Watenpaugh, Assistant City Manager Best,
City Attorney Leibold, Administrative Services Director Boone, Community
Development Director Brady, Community Services Director Sapp, Fire Chief
Gallegos, Police Chief W~lsh, Information/Communications Manager Dennis,
City Clerk/Human Resources IDirector Kasad.
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PRESENTATIONS
A. Presentation -Business of the Ouarter - Winter 2002.
Mayor Kelly called Dennis & Carmen Malone from Highgrove Restaurants
forward for presentation. She noted that they represented both Coco's and
Denny's restaurants, and detailed their participation in the Chamber of
Commerce, Cops far Kids, Student of the Month Program, and Concerts in
the Park. She presented Mr. Malone with his plaque and noted the perpetual
plaque which, hangs in City Ha11.
B. Proclamation - Outreach Team.
Mayor Kelley called Francis Charles and Robert Patrick forward for
presentation. She read and presented them with a Proclamation recognizing
the Outreach Team and their cooperation+with the Ciry's Code Enforcement
Division. Mr. Patrick thanked the City Council for this recognition and
noted their work with the Police Department, HOPE, Code Enforcement,
etc. He noted that Mr. Steve Milton was unable to attend, but important to
the program.
PUBLIC COMN~NTS - AGENDIZED ITEMS
Requests were received to address the following items and deferred to those
discussions:
Item Nos. 7, 31, 32 and 33.
CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS
The following items were pulled from the Consent Calendar for further discussion
and consideration:
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Item Nos. 5 and 7.
MOVED BY BRINI,EY, SECONDED BY BUGKLEY AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOITS VOTE TO APPROVE THE BALANCE OF THE CONSENT
CALENDAR AS PRESENTED.
1. The following Minutes were approved:
a. Joint Study Session with Lake Elsinore Unified School District - April
30, 2002.
b. Special City Council Meeting - Apri130, 2002.
a Regular City Council Meeting - May 14, 2002.
The following Minutes were received and ordered ~led'.
d. Planning Commission Meeting - May l; 2002.
2. Ratified Warrant List for May 16, 2002.
3. Received and ordered ~led the Investment Report for April, 2002.
4. Authorized Harris & Associates to perform engineering work necessary to
complete the Casino Drive Bridge at San Jacinto River Seismic Retro~t.
6. Adopted Resolution No. 2002-21 Authorizing Stop Sign Controlled
Intersection at Elena Drive and Roya1 Oa1c Lane.
RESOLUTION NO. 2002-21
A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CTTY OF
LAKE ELSINORE DESIGNATING TAE LOCATION OF CERTAIN
STOP iNTERSECTiONS.
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PUBLIC HEARING
21. Ordinance No. 1081 & Resolution No. 2002-22 - Establishin D~ evelopment
Impact Fee for the Traffic Infrastructure.
Ciry Manager Watenpaugh explained this item and noted that staff had been
working on the program for over a year; and while it was being presented at
this meeting, it would not be in effect unti160 days after the 2°d reading of
the Ordinance. Community Development Director Brady noted that the City
was in a growth spurt and seeing the related increases in traffic. He
explained that the City entered an agreement with LSA Associates to develop
a Traffic Impact Mitigation Fee; and they had done an extensive study and
prepared the proposed fee schedule. He advised that a Study Session was
held on Apri12, 2002, and with members of the public in attendance; it was
reviewed, and the program was further refined to the current proposed fee
schedule. He explained that the fee was based on the expectations by the
year 2025, from the proposed land uses and the needs for road construction
and expansion. He advised that the total cost forthe program would be
about $115 million, for all of the improvements: He noted that a review of
the proposed fee schedule was made and a proposal was made to reduce it
appro~mately 30% for commercial, industrial and office uses, based on the
generatron of jobs and tax revenues for the Gity. He indicated that the
proposed fees were in:line with those chazged by adjacent communities to the
south. He detailed the costs by category being $1,197 per single family
home; $838 multi-fasnily unit, $3,35 per square foot of commercial building,
$1.26 per square foot of office building, and $.'71 per square foot of
industrial development. He reiterated that this Ordinance would be effective
on August 10'~ with it being applied starting August 12`~. He noted
cornments during the Agenda Review of this date, requesting that staff notify
the development community of the acrion taken by the Council on this item.
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Councilman Hickman requested clarification that the builders with projects '
under construction would not be impacted. Community Development
Director Brady clarified that they would not be impacted if their projects
were signed off by August 10`~, however if they did not have Certificates of
Occupancy they would be charged the fee.
Mayor Kelley opened the public hearing at 7:22 p.m., asking those persons
interested in this item to speak. Hearing no one, the public hearing was
closed at 7:23 p.m.
Councilman Hickrnan noted for the public that the residential fee had gone
from $.03 per square foot to $197.00 per square foot, so additional funds
would be generated.
Councilman Buckley indicated that he thought this fee was reasonable,
appropriate, necessary and long overdue. He noted that several developers
were present at the study session and they too were fine with it. He
compared the fees to those of Murrieta, Temecula, Corona and the County,
and suggested that it would not place the Ciry at a competitive disadvantage.
He indicated that he was in support of the fee.
Mayor Pro Tern Schiffner questioned the effective date, and noted his
understanding that it would be charged at the issuance of the building permit,
however it sounded like it would be with the Certificate of Occupancy.
Communiry Development Director Brady confirmed that for now, residential
would be at the Certificate of Occupancy, but Office, Commercial and
Industrial development would pay at the issuance of the building permit.
Councilwoman Brinley noted that the proposed fees were comparable to the
other cities, but requested that a letter be sent to inform the development
community of the changes and the effective dates.
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Mayor Kelley noted that this fee had been considered for several years and
had taken quite a while to study. She comrnented that the current population
was over 30,000; with the projection of 80,000 by 2025, further impacting
" traffic. She reiterated that.this fee strucfure was for new construction only, to
mitigate their contribution to traffic; and would not irnpact e~sting houses.
MOVED BY BRINI.EY, SECONDED BY BUCKLEY TO ADOPT
ORDINANCE NO. 1081 UPON FIl2ST READING BY TITLE ONLY:
ORDINANCE NO. 1081
AN ORDINANCE OF TI3E CITY GOUNCIL OF THE CITY OF
LAKE; ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA, ADDING CHAPTER 16.74 TO
TITLE 16 OF THE LAKE ELSINORE MUNICIPAL CODE
ESTABLiSHiNG FEES ON DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS.
UPON THE FOLLOWING ROLL CALL VOTE:
AYES: COUNCILMEMBERS: BRiNLEY, BUCKLEY,
HICKMAN, SCHIFFNER,
KELLEY
NOES: GOUNCILMEMBERS: NONE
ABSENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: NONE
ABSTAIN: COUNCILMEMBERS: NONE
THE MAIN MOTION WAS AMENDED TO ADOPT RESOLUTION NO.
2002-22, AND ELIMINATE THE STREET CAPITAL FEE.
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RESOLUTlON NO. 2002-22
A RESOLUTlON OF THE C1TY GOUNCIL OF THE C1TY OF
LAKE ELSINORE, SETTING TI3E FINES FOR VIOLATIONS OF
CHAPTER 6.04 OF THE LAKE ELSINORE MCTNICIPAL CODE.
BUSINESS ITEMS
31. Councilman Bucklev's Request for SalarY/Benetits Survey.
City Manager Watenpaugh explained this request, following clarification of a
request from Mr. Buckley. He advised that staff was requesting a parity
study, per a request by the.Union, as there had:not been one completed since
1987. He explained that the study would allow for parity between job
responsibility and salary; and could be authorized now or at budget time.
Editli Stafford, 29700 Hursh Street, commented that she supported having
the benefits survey on salaries.
Chris Hyland, 15141 Wa~ecrest, noted discussion of this item at the study
session and agreed with Councilman Buckley because she had been pounding
on salaries for many years. She suggested that the salaries were ludicrous,
based on her research in Southern and Northern California. She further
suggested that something was being hidden, and commented that when the
hourly staff got a raise, management got a raise. She indicated that this
would change, when they succeeded at getting a new Council.
Councilman Buckley indicated ihat this item came about because he
requested a comparison of information for Ciry staff to other cities, for
department heads and managers. He commented that it was not an attempt to
micromanage, but an attempt to get information. He suggested that there
was a miscommunication, and this was more complex than he had intended.
He noted a sheet that was FAXed to other cities regarding salary and benefit
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costs, which he wanted before getting into budget discussions. He indicated
that he understood that while the jobs were not aH the same, without job
descriptions, it would provide a snapshot of general salary trends and
significant differences from other cities. He commented that while parity
was different he would support it.
Councilman Hickman concurred with Councilman Buckley, but expressed
concern with being able to compare appies to apples. He noted that the City
was currently in negotiations with the Union, and siressed his fiduciary
responsibility. He expressed concern with the potential State impacts causing
a deficit. He suggested a few more positions should be added to the list, but
expressedsupport for the study.
Councilwoman Brinley noted that this item was clarified at the Study
Session, and a few more things would be added and sent out to simplify the
information. She commented that the parity study was in the budget for
2002-2003, and suggested adding and deleting a few cities and proceeding.
Councilman Hickman noted that a parity study would take months.
Mayor Pro Tem Schiffner indicated that he was in favor of a study to see
where the City was, as the proposed survey would be like comparing apples
to oranges. He indicated that while he did not thinlc the survey would be
worthwhile, it was o.k. if the Manager wanted to send out questionaires, and
complete the study in the next budget year. He indicated that he would like
to see the study initiated as soon as possible. He e~lained the types of
issues to be compared and indicated that it would cover everyone,
management and general employees.
Mayor Kelley indicated that she was in fa~or of the parity studg as requested
by the Union and Managernent. She explained that the study would look at
job descriptions, and noted that many people were doubling responsibilities.
She indicated that it was important to ha~e a valid and eomplete study and
the parity study was the only way to do that. She
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indicated that there had been a lot of miscommunication about the request,
but it appeared to be a very time consuming request and one the entire
Council should address: She stressed the lnnited nature of the survey the
City Manager would FAX out, and reiterated that the parity study wouid
compare every job description, across the board, with other cities.
MOVED BY BUCKLEY, SECONDED BY SCHIFFNER AND CARRIED
BY UNANiMOUS VOTE TO LAUNCH THE PARITY STUDY
IMMEDIATELY, IN THIS BUDGET YEAR AND CLARIFY THE
SURVEY AS STATED EARLIER.
32. Amendin~ Ordinance for Animal Control• Resolution Setting Fines for
Violations of Chapter 6.04 of the Lake Elsinore Municinal Code~ and First
Amendment To the Aexeement for Anunal Control Services.
Ciry Manager Watenpaugh noted that many hours had been spent to revised
and prepare the proposed Code. He also noted that a minor modification of
verbiage had been discussed at the Study Session earlier that day.
Community Services Director Sapp provided an overview of the services
provided by LEAF/Ani~nat Friends since 1987. He explained that changes
had been needed for quite a while, and the issues had now been warked out
and the fines revised.
City Manager Watenpaugh reminded the Council that this item would require
consideration of three separate actions.
Bill Tucker, 740 Acacia, questioned the potential for door to door
canvassing. City Manager Watenpaugh indicated that the proposed materials
would allow for canvassing or soliciting. Mr. Tucker indicated that he was
against canvassing, because Animal Friends did not have time to address the
dogs on the street, although they did a fantastic job. He stressed
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his concern with going door to door, and noted that they did not open until 10
a.m., and could not provide service until then.
Willa Bagwell; representing Animal Friends, clarified that State law required
that all animals be licensed, and noted a recent exposure to rabies in the area.
She stressed that all animals four months old and older must be vaccinated
and licensed: She indicated that Animal Friends trucks were in the field at 8
a.m., butthe shelter did not open untiI 10 a.m.; to allow for cleaning.
Councilman Hickman expressed snpport, noting that all animals should be
licensed. He apologized for this process taking so ]ang.
Councilwoman Brinley indicated that she had no problem with this item, as
they were capable of answering the concerns addressed at the study session.
Councilman Buckley addressed the door-to-door canvassing and concerns
fliat they would be demanding money on the spot. He clarified that Animal
Friends would first issue a warning, before demanding money. He concurred
that all dogs, cats and other animals should be licensed.
Mayor Pro Tem Schiffner noted that the biggest issue was the canvassing,
and it had been turned down once before, but he had decided this time that it
was the best way to go. He indicated that it was a fund-raising operation in
tt~at getting a majority of the animals licensed as required, would hel~
support ttie efforts in taking care af the aiumals: He stressed that the Iaw
required that animals be iicensect; aithougti manypeopte ttiink it is not
neeessary i€the animals st~yed in ~he yard. He ft~tYter st~essed tliat it also
rela~ec~ ta vaee~atio~s and saf€ty. He noted tliat wildlif~ sueh as squirrels in
the axea could carry illnesses and stressed the necessity of vaccinations. He
requested that sfaff clarity the primary changes in the proposed action. City
Attorney Leibold explained the revisions, which were generally clerical. She
noted that the only comments reeeived ftom Aiiimal Fr~ends
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were that they would like to see modi~cation of the definition to include
"potentially dangerous or vicious confinement/dog", making it a more
comprehensive term. She advised that the new ordinance established a new
fee schedule far licenses and detailed the fees, noting a discount for senior
citizen pet owners and schedule for cat licenses. She indicated that it
included an allawance for animal control to conduct inspections, an
obligation to keep all catteries and kennels safe and sanitary, and comply
with State law requirements. She noted that the Resolution established a fine
schedule for $100, $200 and $250 for progressive offenses, which was less
than the State tines of $100, $200 and $540. She also note a claritication of
revenues generated and how the revenues would be paid to Aniinal Friends
for services provided.
Mayar Kelley noted that this was discussed again at today's study session,
and concurred that canvassing was stili the main issue; but it appeared to be
worked out.
MOVED BY SCHIFFNER, SECONDED BY BRINLEY TO ADOPT
ORDINANCE NO. 1082 UPON FIRST READING BY TITLE ONLY:
ORDINANCE NO. 1082
AN ORDiNANG'E OF TAE CiTY OF LAKE ELSINORE;
CALIFORNIA, ADDING, AMENDING AND DELETING
DESIGNATED SECTIONS OF CHAPTER 6.04 OF TFIE LAKE
ELSINORE MLJNICIPAL CODE REGARDING ANIMALS AND
ANiMAL CONTROL OFFICERS.
UPON THE FOLLOWING ROLL CALL VOTE:
AYES: COUNCILMEMBERS: BRINLEY, BUCKLEY,
AICKMAN, SCFIIF'FNER,
KELLEY
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NOES: COUNCILMEMBERS: NON~
ABSENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: NONE
~BSTAIN: COUNCILMEMBERS: NONE
MOVED BY BRINI,EY, SECONDED BY SCHIFFNER AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO ADOPT RESOLUTION N0. 2002-23, AND
AUTHORIZED THE MAYOR TO EXECUTE THE PROPOSED FIRST
AMENDMENT TO AGREEMENT FOR ANIMAL CONTROL SERVICES.
RESOLUTION NO. 2002-23
A RESOLUTiON OF TAE CiTY COUNCiL OF TAE CiTY OF
LAKE ELSINORE, SETTiNG TflE FiNES FOR ViOLATiONS OF
CHAPTER 6.04 OF THE LAKE ELSINORE MUlvICIPAL CODE.
33. Park & Recreation Maintenance District Assessment Ballots.
City Manager Watenpaugh explained that this was a discussion regarding
the casting of ballots for City-owned properties. He explained that there
were 76 ballots for $3,172.14 dollarslvotes. He noted a question from the
earlier study session regarding the Stadium, and clarified that the Stadium
and Parking Lot were part of the parks, which were exempt. He explained
that only City Hall and the Gultural Center were being assessed under this.
He advised that Council could change this arrangement, if theg chose to do
so.
Chris Hyland, 15191 Wavecrest, expressed hopes that homeowners had sent
back assessment ballot with "no° votes. She noted that the Committee was
working hard to put out flyers and noted the points of contact for
participation. She indicated that every no vote counted, and begged the
residents to get iheir votes in. She, further indicated that if the assessment
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passed, it would be rescinded; as they are working with the Jarvis Taxpayers
Association. She questioned why the Stadium was considered exempt.
City Manager Watenpaugh clari~ed that it showed as a park under the
General Plan. Mrs. Hyland questioned that status, since the facility was
leased to someone else. City Manager Watenpaugh clarified further.
Councilman Buckley commented that the Stadium was listed as part of the
Parks Department and suggasted that based on the Assessment Report it was
not; and was not being assessed. City Manager Watenpaugh clarified
further and noted that a supplemental ballot could be obtained to a11ow the
City/RDA to vote. City Attorney Leibold claritied that the Stadium would
be considered by the Agency. She noted that the Engineer's Report listed a
schedule of exempt facilities and did not identify the Stadium as ane of
those facilities. City Manager Watenpaugh indicated that this was a
problem in the Engineer's Report to be clarified. City Attorney Leibold
confirmed that this needed to be clarified.
Jim Morris, 15220 Golden Sands, indicated that this item was important,
because the Council had the right to cast over 100 ballots. He suggested
that the Council had every opportunity to decline to vote on this issue; and
commented that the votes should be left to the voters. He noted the
redundancy of this issue, but suggested that declining to vote would gain the
trust of the people and serve as a unifying force.
Edith Stafford, 29700 Hursh Street, expressed hope that her questions
would be answered, but were not. She questioned how the Council could
vote on this item and avoid a conflict of interest. She questioned if there
was a benefit to a Councilmember owning property and being assessed; and
asked how the Cultural Center was classified. City Manager Watenpaugh
indicated that there were recreation programs housed in the burlding, so
while it was listed as a City owned facility, it was not a park facility.
City Attorney Leibold explained the ability of the City Council Members
and Redevelopment Agency Board Members to cast ballots on City and
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Redevelopment Agency owned properties; and clarified that it would not be
a conflict of interest to the Rolirical Reform Act; as they were simply
representatives of the CityfAgency.
Ace Vallejos, 15231 Cobre Street, commented that as the conducting
authority, the Council was responsible for the ballots, which were a11 to be
mailed in by the June 25"' deadline. He noted that the City Gouncil voted 3
to 2 and questioned the fairness of this situation when the residents only got
one vote.
David Cheney, noted that as most ha~e already said, the vote if cast would
again be 3 to 2. He appealedto Mayor Kelley, as the most honorable of the
"old school Council", to avoid what appeared to be a very manipulative
situation_ He suggested that since staff was handling the ballots, voting by
the Council should be precluded. He commented that husband and wife
could ha~e different opinions, but oniy one vote; however the Council was
not limiting themselves.'
City Manager Watenpaugh explained that the mailed ballot process was
included in the initiative, and Gouncil could orily proceed in the way it was.
He fiuther explained that the ballots were being brought into City Ha11 and
placed into a locked box. He stressed that the ballot count would be open to
the public, but ballots must be received by 5 p.m. in the mail or at the public
hearing. He noted that private property owners could get a provision ballot
to a11ow them to split then- batlot; however the Council could only vate as a
block.
City Attorney Leiboid clarified that it was the right of the Council to vote
on non-exempted propertaes because they served as the elected
representatives of each agency. She indicated that they were allowzd to
vote, but not required to vote; so the first question was, did they want to cast
their ballots, and second how they would vote. She stressed that there was
no individual fmancial interest and no conflict of interest.
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Councilman Hickman noted the Stud.y Session earlier today, and suggested
that those members of the Council who did not pay taxes should recluse
themselves from this vate. He indicated that he was against the assessment
and didn't like the City voting on it, He suggested that the only way to
resolve this issue would be to split the 76 votes so the City Council actually
had its say. He noted that this was approved by a 3 to 2 vote originally, and
suggested that the perception of that vote said a lot about the Ciry. :
Councilman Buckley addressed the process, and indicated that there was a
point before the ballots were mailed that if the Council had decided they
should have mailed ballots to every public agency to see if they believed
their property to be exempt, which would have prevented this issue. He
explained that most public agency property did not pay property taY, so
independent invoices would be required, and the Ciry wouid ha~e to hope
they would pay. He indicated that another problem was whether the
Stadiuxn was included, and how it was classified by the Assessor and the
Engineer. He indicated that he asked about the Stadium in the beginning;
but if the Stadium was a park and not included in the budget, it couldn't be
back filled because the budget was already set. He noted that it was his first
year to participate in the budget process, but he was in favor of cutting first
and taxing second. He agreed that it wouldlook bad if the City voted and
eapressed concern with issues of double t~ation. He indicaYed that the City
was different from other public agencies; as the Water District should vote
if it has to pay, however they were not voting to give themselves more
money. He indicated that °legally defensible" was not enough for Lake
Elsinore, and it needed to be better. He expressed concern for the potential
of the City Council voting 3,700 votes and having the measure pass by
3,500 votes, as it would negate the will of the residents.
Councilwoman Brittley inquirad if the Ciry Clerk had received any written
correspondence on the issue being discussed tonight: City Clerk/Human
Resources Director Kasad reported no written conespondence.
Councilwoman Brinley questioned the City Attorney with regard to conflict
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on the part of non-property owners on the Council. City Attorney Leibold
clarified that the Council sat as elected representatives of the City/Agency,
and would not be votixig on individual property rights. She stressed that the
CounciUAgency served as the representatives designated to cast votes on
behalf of their enrities. She reiterated that they were not obligated to cast a
vote, but could vote. Councilwoman Brinley indicated that this process was
a way far the community to ha~e input via their ballot, and commented that
in no way did the Council think of closing the parks if the assessment fauiled
She noted rumors of closure, but indicated that the Council had not
entertained the notion of ciosing parks. She stressed that the assessment
was suggested in working with User Groups to determine how the
community at large felt about it. She cornmented that in light of current
State issues, the City needed to be sure it could support the parks. She
stressed the need for safety; and green fields to play on. She noted that she
lived in the City and pays a lot of other taYes, but she was willing to pay
that share for her grandchildren and other children in the area.
Mayor Kelley indicated that she had personally worked with the User
Crroups and they had been very supportive of this issue. She stressed the
quality of life issue of parks, and indicated that she knew the City would
take budget cuts from the State, although the timing and how much were not
yet known. She indicated that she never wanted to close the parks again,
but the City was looking at protecting the parks and upgrading the
maintenance of the parks.
Mayor Pro Tem Schiffner noted that his comments would surprise
some people, noting that during his tenure he had been insulted by many
people, most of them opposed to the bond issue. He noted that he had
considered, with pride, that if that group was opposed to what he did, he
must be doing it right. He indicated that it was difficult to agree with them
at this time, but he agreed that he didn't want to be the one to swing the
issue. He further indicated if the matter couldn'fipass by more votes than
the City's property he would not be rn favor of it passing. He commented
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that he would probably vote to not cast the ballot.
MOVED BY BUCKLEY, SECONDED BY HICKMAN AND CARRIED BY
A VOTE OF 3 TO 2 WITH BRINLEY AND KELLEY CASTING THE
DISSENTING VOTES TO NOT CAST TFIE BALLOTS ON CITY OWNED
PROPERTY.
ITEMS PULLED FROM C~NSENT CALENDAR
5. Sigais of Su~port License A~reement.
Ciry Manager Watenpaugh explained that this was a request to consider an
agreement with Signs of Support, and noted that representaYives were
present to make a presentation. Assistant Ciry Manager Best noted that Mr.
Missett of Signs of Support had approached the City to place signs on the
rear of City vehicles in support of community issues. She explained
the program and noted that 50% of the gross revenues would be donated
back to the City. She advised fhat the Ciry had fmal approval of all signs
and noted the samples of signs used in other communities. She explained
that the agreement would aliow all work to be done at the City Yard. She
noted the limitations on the types of businesses which would be allowed to
advertise:
Councilman Buckley indicated that he pulled this item from the Consent
Calendar because the packet only had a one page brief outline, and the
balance of the information was provided at 7 p.m. He indicated that he had
not had enough time to make a decision. He expressed concern with the
perceptions of the Gity endorsing a product or service; and requested that
this item be tabled until the next meeting.
Councilman Hickman noted the packet presented this evening, indicating
that it sounded like a good deal and he saw nothing wrong with it. He
suggested moving forward, as it would benefit the Ciry.
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Councilwoman Brinley indicated that she saw no problems with the
proposal and only benefits.
Mayor Pro Tem Schiffner inquired what type of advertising would be
provided.
Tom Missett, representing Signs of Support, explained that this was a
retirement project for hitn, after running a newspaper for 32 years. He
indicated that they had implemented the program in several other
communities; and noted that they were unanimously approved by the 8oard
of Supervisors in San Diego County. He explained that the program was
intended to help kids, making them abie to participate in sporting events,
like Litt1e League or Pop Warner FootbalL He indicated that there was no
outlay by the City and no work would be required by the City. He further
indicated that there would be no downtime for the trucks as the work is
done on weekends. He advised that the gross revenues would be split 50-
50, and offered to answer .any additional questions.
Mayor Pro Tem Schiffner questioned a typical list of advertisers. Mr.
Missett noted that he ran a family newspaper for many years; and was
bound by confract not to accept ads from bail bondsmen, or far sex, alcohol
or tobacco products. He indicated that he had only seen one sign not
accepted, but he would not put anything up for consideration that would not
be acceptable: Mayor Pro Tem Schiffner inquired if there would be a
different sign on every vehicle. Mr. Missett indicated that the one in the
packet would be seen on six vehicles initially, but they would explare other
vehicles to provide additional funding to assist the kids. Mayor Pro Tem
Schiffner indicated that it sounded like a good idea, but he would like the
ability to designate where the money went. Mr. Missett confirmed that
there would be that opporlunity.
Mayor Kelley questioned who would get the scholazships far the sports.
Mr. Missett indicated that a list of signs would be provided every month
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with a check to the Ciry, so the City could decide how to use it. City
Manager Watenpaugh con~rmed that the Councii could direct staff to spend
that money any way it was needed. Mayor Kelley indicated that it was
difficult to visualize the signage on City vehicles, making them a billboard
in motion. She commented that the only selling point was that the money
was going to the youth. She inquired how much would usually be
contributed back to the community. Mr. Missett indicated that it was $50 to
$100 per month/per truck, initially it would generate about $3,600 to $4,000
per year for six trucks. Mayor Kelley inquired if advertisers could be
anywhere. Mr. Missett indicated that would be up to each City as to what
they would accept. Mayor Kelley noted that there were some very nice
designs, but some of the more elaborate ones would be hard to get used to;
however in the interest of the youth of the community, she would not
prevent someone from participating in sports.
Mayor Pro Tem Schiffner noted the Cops for Kids program and inquired if
it would be a satisfactory charity for the progratn, although it is not totally a
youth sports thing. Councilwoman Briniey suggested consideration for
each arganization. Mayor Kelley suggested that it would provide the
ability to assist with youth soccer, etc:, and she would prefer.to see it go to
youth sports activities. Councilnlan Hickn7an suggested allowing the
Council to judge or approve where the money went.
MOVED BY BRINLEY, SECONDED BY AiCKMAN AND CARRiED BY
A VOTE OF 4 TO 1 WITH BUCKLEY CASTING THE DISSENTING
VOTE TO APPROVE THE LICENSE AGREEMENT WITH SIGNS OF
SUPPORT FOR A THREE-YEAR PER10D AND DIRECT THE C1TY
ATTORNEY AND STAFF TO DRAFT THE AGR~EMENT FOR THE
CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE.
7. Release and Indemnity A~eement with K S. Chen and Reconveyance of
Deed of Trust.
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Chris Hyland, 15191 Wavecrest, questioned tlus item and indicated that it
bothered her that when a cruciai thing like lawsuits, deeds or transfers came
up, the documents always came up lost. She noted that she had signed
documents that the City did not have, and questioned why this was needed all
of a sudden. She also noted missing health msurance documents, particularly
one signed under penalty of perjury to make changes to forms. She stressed
the process for making changes to insurance.
Councilman Hicl~nan commented that this action was to protect the City
and clear the books. '
Councilwoman Brinley indicated that she had no problem with this item.
Mayor Pro Tem Schiffner indicated that he had not problem with cleaning
up documents, however whether they were lost or not; he could not address.
Councilman Buckley indicated that the comment was a little too obscure,
but a good point; and noted that there were surprising gaps in the City's
recordkeeping ability. He indicated that he was fine with this particular
item.
Mayor Keliey indicated that she had no problems with this action:
MOVED BY BRINLEY, SECONDED BY KELLEY AND CARRTED 8Y
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO AUTHORIZE THE EXECUTION OF THE
RELEASE AND INDEMNITY AGREEMENT AND THE
RECONVEYANCE OF THE DEED OF TRUST.
THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING WAS RECESSED AT 8:39 P.M.
THE C1TY COUNCll, MEETING RECONVENED AT 8:57 P.M.
PAGE TWENTY-TWO - CITY COUNCIL NIINi7TES - MAY 28, 2002
PUBLIC COMMENTS - NON-AGENDiZED 1TEMS
Gil Rasmussen, 22912 Paula Court, Wildomar, representing Elsinore
Magazine.com., addressed Councilwoman Brinley regarding economically
dependent children, and indicated that Elsinore Magazine did not believe that the
child was ever qualified under the Ca1PERS policy. He indicated that she would
have had to be the legal guardian to obtain coverage. He suggested that it was time
to put to rest the issue of fraud against the citizens of Lake Elsinore, and suggested
that she speak up and advise the community that the child was qualified and that
she had the documents. He also addressed Mayor Pro Tem Schiffner and
questioned where medical premiums in the amount of $898.00/month had gone. He
suggested that Mr. Schiffner inquire of the City Manager or City Clerk as to where
the money went. He inquired if the money had been received for his own personal
use. He noted that there was no requirement that the officials respond to Elsinore
Magazine, which they had called vulgaz and vicious recently; and noted the rights
of elected officials.
Barbara Anderson, 304 N. Lewis Street, expressed concern with the form of the
park assessment ballot. She indicated that she had voted in every election since she
was able to do so and stressed the process for a registered voter etection. She
expressed concern that the ballots required signatures on the ballot, and indicated
that she didn't understand why the residents were being asked to pay additional
money for parks. She indicated that she already paid enough taxes and there were
already goodparks which should be kept open.
Edith Stafford passed on the opportunity to speak.
Michael O'1~Teal, 1403 W. Heald, apologized in advance for his manner and
questioned why criticism upsets Mayor Pro Tem Schiffner. He suggested that the
sad lament was always the same with regard to malcontents. He further suggested
that an understanding of policy making and Robert's Rules of Order did not exist.
He indicated that the Council took an oath to uphold the Constitution including the
first amendment, with regard to free speech and petitioning government. He
PAGE TWENTY-THREE - CITY COUNCIL 1VIINUTES - MAY 28,'2002
also indicated that the ability to oversee City management had brought the City to
the brink of insolvency. He suggested that history indicated that the Council
would close the parks.
Gary Crrant, 27068 Jarvis Street, Perris, expressed concern with regard to good faith
government and indicated it was time for him to speak up. He addressed the Lake
and noted the 1984 agreement with EVMWD to allow them federal funding to
reshape the Lake: He noted that the $26 million was to be paid back by the City
and EVMWD; then they took over the Lake in 1993, based on a 1991 agreement.
He indicated that Meadowbrook and other were now having to pay for a Lake with
no benefits for them. He suggested giving the Lake back and sa~ing costs.
Jim Morris, 15220 Goiden Sands, thanked the Council for the opportunity to speak
and commended Mayor Pro Tem Schiffner for his stand on the Parks Assessment
Ballots, as a step in the right direction. He expressed hopes that the vote on the
Redevelopment Agency ballots would be changed and the ballots left unmarked as
well: He noted that while there would always be disagreements, it was a chance to
keep the Ciry operation clean.
Chris Hyland; 15191 Wavecrest, expressed hopes that everyone would send the
ballots in marked "no". She indicated that she was determined that it would not
pass, and would work to rescind it if it does pass. She advised that she was fighting
back room deals; and working to clean house in City Hall.
CITY MANAGER COMMENTS
City Manager Watenpaugh commented on the following:
1) Advised that no payments had been forwarded to Ca1PERS for Mayor
Pro Tem Schiffner's insurance and he received no benefit from the
City lnsurance.
PAGE TWENTY-FOUR - CITY COUNCIL MINUTES - MAY 28, 2002
2) Noted the letter from Councilwoman Brinley submitted in 1994,
stating that she was financially supporting her grandson, was
forwarded to Ca1 PERS, and the decision was their's not the City's.
3) Addressed Mr. O'Nea1's coxnments on the commitment to parks, and
indicated that staff had made it very clear that if the City received
reductions from the State, which had not happened, there was no intent
to close parks, however the level of service could be reduced.
4) Addressed Mr. Grant and confirmed that some times he was not sure
he would disagree, however the State was worse off than the City and
the Water District at this point. He expressed hopes for improvernent
of the Lake in the next year, which would make the community a
better place to live.
5) Noted Mr. Morris's commented on the vote by elected officials, and
indicated that if the votes were in fa~ar of the measure Council could
proceed, but if there was not enough to warrant approval, the Council
would not have to approve the assessment He stressed that they
would have to further formal action on the matter; and they would
have one more opportunity to respond.
6) Thanked Highgrove Restaurants/Denrus & Carmen Malone for fheir
work in the commuruty; and commended them on their award as
Business of the Quarter.
'7) Noted that the ballots mailed out were based on Proposition 218,
which stipulated the form for mail-out ballots. He requested
clarification that once counted the ballots became publia Crty
Attorney Leibold and City Clerk Kasad confirmed.
PAGE TWENTY-FIVE - CITY COUNCIL MINUTES - MAY 28, 2002
C1TY ATTORNEY COMMENTS
City Attorney Leibold comrnented on the following:
1) Announced that the Closed Session discussion was held as listed on
the agenda, and there was no reportable action.
2) Commented that during Closed Session the City Council and RDA
Board received a request from EVMWD Legal Counsel for immediate
consideration of a letter consenting to issues on island wells. She
aclrnowledged receipt of the letter, but indicated that there was no time
to review or give adequate consideration or comments. She noted that
the City continued to work with EVMWD on Lake issues including
the island wells: She expressed hopes for comprehensive resolution of
the issues; but the letter would be reviewed and presented to Council
for consideration.
CITY COUNCIL COMNIENTS
Councilman Buckley commented on the following:
1) Provided a Committee Report on WRCOG, andreminded the Council
of the June 14~' General Assembly meeting to be held in Riverside. He
noted that he was appointed by WRCOG to the "Borders Committee",
and they would be talking about electrical power issues.
2) Announced that he had held oftice hours twice, thanked Mr. Morris
for the inspiration and reiterated the hours. He indicated that he had
met with eleven people in two weeks, discussing many different issues.
He suggested that anyone interested in meeting with him call City Hall
for an appointment.
PAGE TWENTY-5IX - CITY COITNCIL MINUTES - MAY 28, 2002
3) Inquired if e-mail for the Council was working. Staff indicated that it
was not yet impiemented through the website.
4) Addressed the Park T~ and reiterated that there was no threat
menrioned about closing the parks. He indicated that was not an issue,
but for the tax there were clearly serious issues regarding why public
agencies were not exempted and where the Stadium falls in the
process. He encouraged everyane to vote and attend study sessions.
5) Noted the upcoming Budget Study Session on June 5`~' from 10 a.rn. to
4 p.rn., and indicated that he was looking forward to the event.
6} Addressed Mr. Grant regarding the Lake and agreed that it had cost too
much money, and suggested he would consider an offer if someone
was willing to take it. He commented that an empty Lake would
absalutely damage property values in the entire area including
Meadowbrook; and everyone would benefit from a clean and full
Lake.
Councilman Hickman cornmented on the fallowing:
1) Noted and read a letter received from Palrna Johnson regarding the
street racing on Lincoln Street and incident involving her son-in-law.
The letter expressed outrage with the Sheriffs comments regarding the
racing issue and the recent town hall meeting. It explained that the
situation involved severe injuries, and now involved constant care in a
rehabilitation center foras much as the next two years. It advised that
the family was seeking assistance to a11ow his daughter to participate
in cheerleading at the high schooL
2) Noted that cement was being placed on the Riverwalk, and work was
underway.
PAGE TWENTY-SEVEN - CITY COUNCII, MINUTES - MAY 28, 2002
3) Congratulated Pat Cleary, on her election as President of the Tuscany
Hills Homeowners Association; and congratulated other Board
Members.
4) Suggested that if anyone had not received a ballot they should contact
the City Clerk's Office:
Sj Announced the Ghamber of Commerce Reverse Raffle to be heid on
July 18~` and noted the prizes.
6) Announced that the Lake Elsinore Women's CTub was offering a trip to
the ~,aguna Arts Festival and Pageant af tlie Masters; far ~54 per
person. ~e s~tgges~ed ~hat it~te~estec~ pa~ttes con~aeE Atny Htckma~ at
245-?Z29.
7j fnquir~d kow the Carp.netting went, while he was away.
Co~c~iwa~na~ Brinley ca~m~ted an.the-following:
lj - Noted Chat the issue regarding i~er insurance came up at tihe iast
meeting, advised that iri the fail of 1994, s~e listed i~er Gra~dson on
her insurance because he was economicall~-dependent or~ l~er. Sl~e
noted that the letter stating that fact was submitted to PERS with the
application. She furtlier advised that in the fa11 of 1995, she requested
that he be removed, and he was. She indicated that she had followed
the procedures as directed by the then Human Resources
representative. She indicated that in her opinion she was acting in
good faith, and a copy was on file with the City Clerk. She further
indicated that anyone requesting a copy had been provided one, and
Eisinare Magazine had received a copy this date, as did Councilman
Hickman. She reiterated that there was a statement-regarding her
responsibility for her Crrandson and stressed that proper procedures
were followed.
PAGE TWENTY-EIGHT - CITY COUNCIL MINUTES - MAY 28, 2002
2) Congratulated Coco's and noted they did wonderful things for the
community, being good participants and good donators to Cops for
Kids.
3) Thanked staff for their efforts.
Mayor Pro Tem Schiffner commented on the following:
1) Congrariilated Dennis Malone on his recognition and noted that Coco's
rebated to members of severai churches, 10% on their purchases. He
personally thanked them for that program and noted that it was
working well fior everyone. He stressed that they were very involved in
the community.
2) Explained his opposition on the voting tonight, indicating that he
wanted it to pass, but didn't want it to pass based on the Council's
votes being cast. He stressed that he gave up 76 ballots,.some worth
over 100 votes. He commented that there was not always an
opportunity to vote both sides, but he felt giving up that many votes
was sufficient in voting against his beliefs, even though he supported
the RDA votes. He indicated that he felt this concession was
adequate.
3) Noted that he too received a copy of the letter regarding street racing,
and had read the article, but could not find the enraging comments by
the Sheriffs Of~ce. He indicated that he also attended the meeting at
Rice Canyon School and did not hear any enraging comments there
either. He indicated that it was a very sad event and offered
condolences for the accident, but suggested that it sounded more like
an assault with a deadly weapon than an accident. He expressed
certainty that the Police Department was working that possibility. He
indicated that with regard to donations, it was a great idea if someone
was so inclined. He reiterated that he did not see anythnig the Sheriffs
department did to be enraging or untrue.
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4) Commented that with regard to criticism; he is only-concerned with
that criticizing the City, not himself. He indicated that there were
beautiful homes in the area and it was no different than other
communities. He commented that while downtown xnight not be one
to be proud of, it was over 100 years old and built without plamliug;
and so far it had not all been rehabilitated, however that would
probably require condemnation. He indicated that he thought Lake
Elsinore was a beautiful City and it •irritated him tio hear it run down.
He clarified that criticism of himself he was willing to accept if it was
correct or ignore if it was not correct.
Mayor Kelley commented on the following:
1) Noted the following upcoming events:
Household Hazardous Waste Collection on June lst from 9 a.m.
to 2 p.m.
Kids Fishing Derby on June 8`i' from 7 a.m. to Noon
Rod Run on June 8`" from 9 a.rn. to 4 p:m.
Composting Workshop on June 15~'.
2) Congratulated the Business of the Quarter.
3) Announced the upcoming Concert in the Park Series at McVicker Pazk
begiuning August 17`t` and noted the need for additional donations to
cover the concerts and sound people.
4) Indicated that she also received the letter from Palma Johnson and
would be drafting a response to her. She noted that Mrs. Johnson
spoke at the meeting held at Rice Canyon and she heard her
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comments. She indicated that Chief Wa1sh took the matter to heart
and was looking into it. She noted that the suggestion of speed bumps
was illegal and additional street lights were not warranted, but
solutions were being investigated.
ADJOURNIVfENT
MOVED BY BRINLEY, SECONDED BY BUCKLEY AND CARRIED BY
UNANIMOUS VOTE TO ADJOURN THE REGULAR CITY COUNCIL
MEETING AT 9:3.5 P.M.
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ENlE KELLEY, MA OR
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
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VICHI KA AD, CMC, CITY CLERK/
HLTMAN RESOITRCES DTRECTOR
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE