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STUDY SESSION
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
183 NORTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA
TUESDAY, MARCH 26, 2002
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CALL TO ORDER
Mayor Kelley called the Study Session to order at 4:02 p.m.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: BUCKLEY, HICKMAN,
SCHIFFNER, KELLEY
ABSENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: BRINLEY
(Councilwoman Brinley arrived at 4:30 p.m.)
Also present were: City Manager Watenpaugh, Assistant City Manager
Best, City Attorney Leibold, Administrative Services Director Boone,
Community Development Director Brady, Community Services
Director Sapp, Information/Communications Manager Dennis and
Deputy City Clerk Paredes.
DISSCUSSION
Ae.endaReview. (F:44.1)
City Manager Watenpaugh indicated that there would be no
presentation.
Councilman Hickman questioned Item No. 4, regarding Disposal of
Surplus Property. City Manager Watenpaugh explained that the City
had a contract for disposal of surplus property and after the City
Council declared items as surplus, they would be sold at public
auction.
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Councilman Hickman addressed Item No. 3, regarding Claims
Against the City, and commented that it seemed that every time
someone had an accident they placed a Claim against the City. Mayor
Kelley explained the claim process.
City Manager Watenpaugh addressed Item No. 31, regarding
Commercial Project No. 2001-03. He indicated that Starbucks Coffee
Shop was the only business that was confirmed and the other four
sites were in the negotiation process. Councilman Hickman inquired
if the RDA would address the item. City Attorney Leibold explained
that the RDA generally concured with City Council action.
City Manager Watenpaugh addressed Item No. 32, regarding
California Department of Boating and Waterways Grant. He
explained that this action was a result of the meeting with the
Concessionaire and Mr. Flood from the Department of Boating and
Waterways. He indicated that Mr. Flood had informed staff that if an
application for a grant was submitted this year, then he would see that
it was placed in the 2002/2003 review for 2003/2004 funding. City
Manager Watenpaugh explained that there were requirements that the
City meet prior to submittal of the application. He indicated that the
City needed to do an Economic Feasibility Study, which would cost
approximately $30,000 and file a Negative Declaration through
CEQA. He indicated that the Grant amount was based on the number
of launches; and for every S,OOO launches it would represent $1
million in grant funding. Councilman Hickman questioned the
amount the City could receive from the Crrant. City Manager
Watenpaugh stated that it could be approximately $4 million.
Councilman Hickman asked if the Campground Launch Facility
would jeopardize the City Launch Facility. City Manager
Watenpaugh indicated that they would both be City facilities and it
was planned to raise the Campground Launch Facility to an elevation
of 1256 feet, which was one foot above the elevation of the Outflow
Channel. He further indicated that the City Launch Facility would not
be operational until the Lake reached an elevation of 1240 feet. He
explained that the Campground Launch Facility would continue to
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provide six lanes for launching, up to elevation 1256 feet if the City
was funded and approved. He further explained that the original
Feasibility Study allowed for 1,500 boats on the Lake and could
handle six different launch locations. Mayor Kelley commented that
what was desirable about the Grant, was that it did not require a
match. City Manager Watenpaugh agreed and stated that the reason
the Department of Boating and Waterways was being lenient was
because the facility was in excess of twenty years old and they did not
originally build the facility.
Mayor Pro Tem Schiffner questioned the grants the City was currently
working on. City Manager Watenpaugh noted that the City was
working on three separate grants through the Wildlife Conservation
Board for acquisition of the Four Corners/Chaney area; development
of the Four Corners/Chaney area; and development of pedestrian
access. Mayor Pro Tem Schiffner questioned the timeline for the
construction of the Campground Boat Launch Facility. City Manager
Watenpaugh stated that fiscal year 2004/OS would be the earliest
construction would begin, provided the grant was approved.
Councilman Hickman questioned the effect on private boat launches.
City Manager Watenpaugh stated that the Lake was capable of
supporting six different launch sites.
There was general discussion regarding the use of private boat
launches around the Lake.
Councilman Hickman questioned if the improvements would help to
prevent drowning in that area. City Manager Watenpaugh stated that
he felt the improvements would provide for a more viable use at a
higher elevation, however it would not address potential danger of
submerged areas that were not visible.
Councilman Buckley inquired if the Boating and Waterways Grant
was a competitive grant process. City Manager Watenpaugh indicated
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that it was, however Mr. Flood had assured staff that the City had an
excellent opportunity to get the project funded if the application was
submitted. He indicated that the Campground Concessionaire had
previously worked with Boating and Waterways and felt that the City
had an excellent opportunity to receive funding. Councilman Buckley
commented that if the City received the grant and the improvements
were made, the Campground would have an increase in use as well as
an increase in operation and maintenance costs. He asked who would
pay for the operation and maintenance and who would receive the
revenue. City Manager Watenpaugh indicated that the concessionaire
would bear the cost of operation and maintenance and the City would
receive the revenue from the Lake Operations, which were launch
passes, day use passes and 7% of the revenue from the Campground.
Mayor Pro Tem Schiffner questioned what percentage of people who
utilize the campground would use annual passes. City Manager
Watenpaugh stated that it would be very small since more residents
that live around the Lake utilize the annual passes for the Lake than
the people from the Campground.
There was general discussion regarding the use of the Lake and
related facilities.
Councilman Buckley addressed the benefits in revenue that the
concessionaire would receive from the proposed improvements. City
Manager Watenpaugh noted that the concessionaire and City were in a
trial and error period, and should the concessionaire e~end, then he
would make a larger investment in the facility. City Attorney Leibold
stated that the grant was for the improvement of the facility and the
concessionaire had aided in the grant process.
Mayor Pro Tem Schiffner commented that he felt that the City should
be competitive with private facilities, since the possible new launch
sites would increase the use of the Campground and generate revenue
for the Lake.
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Councilman Buckley questioned the cost of the Launch Fee and Day
Use Fee. City Manager Watenpaugh stated that the Launch Fee was
$6 a day and the Day Use Pass was $7 a day. Councilman Buckley
noted that the Grant Application stated that there could be a maximum
of $5 for launching fees. City Manager Watenpaugh stated that
Boating and Waterways had approved past fees and the amount would
be part of the Feasibility Study. He noted that the City's launch fee
was currently $6 and was approved by the State. He indicated that the
City and concessionaire would comply with the requirements of the
Department of Boating and Waterways.
City Manager Watenpaugh addressed Item No. 33, regarding Lake
Elsinore Rotary Club Bus Bench Program. He presented an overview
for the placement of bus benches and indicated that it would provide
twenty additional shade. structures.
City Manager Watenpaugh addressed Item No. 34, regarding the
establishment of a Traffic Offenders Fund. He explained that the item
dealt with traffic offenders that would be cited for suspended licenses
and/or drunk driving. He indicated that it would generate a$100
traffic fee that would go directly into a fund for traffic enforcement
and traffic safety. He noted that that the proposed action would be an
e~ension of the $100,000 grant received through the Office of
Transportation Safety and would allow the Police Department to
perpetuate the Traffic Safety Program. Mayor Pro Tem Schiffner
indicated that currently the citations issued for the same offense did
not generate any income for the City. City Manager Watenpaugh
indicated that currently there was no income for a Traffic Safety
Program and if this Ordinance were passed, it would generate income
for Traffic Safety purposes. Councilman Hickman asked if the Police
Department would use a police car or a motorcycle. City Manager
Watenpaugh stated that they could use both. Councilman Buckley
asked if the City had an Anti Drag Racing Ordinance. City Manager
Watenpaugh stated that there was no specific ordinance regarding
drag racing or cruising. Councilman Buckley asked if there were
some way to create a"Special Safety Zone". City Attorney Leibold
stated that there was a State of California Vehicle Code for
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establishing a"Double Fine Zone", however there were a number of
statistical requirements to be satisfied. She stated that she would get
back with Council regarding this issue. Councilman Buckley
specifically addressed Railroad Canyon Road/Diamond Drive and the
congestion. He stated that he would like to see a"Special Safety
Zone" set in that area. City Attorney Leibold explained that State Law
set fines, and there could be a preemption issue. Councilman Buckley
stated that he understood, however he saw that as a way to address the
problems in that area.
Mayor Kelley addressed Item No. 35, regarding McVicker Canyon
Skate Park Concession Contract. She explained that Mr. Johnson of
Beach Life, had to decline execution of the Skate Park Concessionaire
Agreement, due to other personal employment obligations. She
indicated that the second bidder, Spohn Ranch, Inc., had been
contacted and had agreed to become the concessionaire. She noted
that Spohn Ranch, Inc. had 25 years of e~erience in building and
operating skate board parks. She indicated that staff entered into
negotiations with Spohn Ranch and there were a few changes to the
agreement. She noted that Spohn Ranch wished to have a 5 year
contract with a 3 year extension and the previous agreement called for
a 3 year contract with a 5 year e~ension; Spohn Ranch was willing to
reimburse the City of 7%, whereas Beach Life proposed 5%; Beach
Life was going to provide the trailer and Spohn Ranch would not; the
City would provide maintenance and replacement of the pro-light
surface; $1,000,000 insurance policy; and 90 day written notice for
termination for both parties.
Councilman Hickman clarified the 7% of the concession and asked if
that started immediately. Community Services Director Sapp stated
that it would start on January 1, 2003, which was consistent with
Beach Life's contract. Mayar Pro Tem Schiffner questioned the
change to start tlie 7% immediately. City Manager Watenpaugh
stated that staff negotiated the agreement, however what Council had
the fmal decision. He noted that the Concession Agreement did not st
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Start the 7% until January 1, 2003; the City would fund the lights; the
City would fund the trailer and Spohn would maintain the trailer; and
the City would have to replace surfaces on the structures when they
needed replacment. Mayor Pro Tem Schiffner asked for clarification
of the original agreement. City Manager Watenpaugh stated that the
unsigned agreement stated that Beach Life would be responsible for
the lights; provision of the trailer; provision of maintenance; and
rendering of 5%. Mayor Pro Tem Schiffner asked what the 5% would
represent. City Manager Watenpaugh indicated it was anticipated that
the Skate Park would gross between $100,000 and $120,000 a year.
Mayor Pro Tem Schiffner stated that the City would realize
approximately $7,000. City Manager Watenpaugh explained that it
would be approximately $3,500 since it would be for half of the fiscal
year. Mayor Pro Tem Schiffner indicated that it was not a great deal
of money that was being discussed. City Manager Watenpaugh
explained that staff was proposing that the General Fund pay back the
Park Fund. He indicated that the Park Funds would be used to buy the
trailer. He noted the difficulty in trying to finalize the concessionaire
contract.
Councilman Hickman asked why the City had to wait until January to
receive a portion of the revenue. Community Services Director Sapp
explained that the old contract was used as a basis to establish a new
contract with Spohn Ranch. He indicated that Spohn Ranch was
informed of the possibility that since the City had to purchase the
trailer, Council might not be willing to wait until January for the
City's portion of the revenue. Mayor Kelley clarified that the Skate
Park would be ready to go into operation on Monday, April 1, 2002.
Community Services Director Sapp indicated that should the
agreement be approve, Spohn Ranch would be prepared to open the
park and provide safety equipment and snacks. Councilman Hickman
questioned how Spohn Ranch would be able to have the equipment
available for the Opening. City Manager Watenpaugh stated that the
trailer would be placed on site and Spohn Ranch would start
operation.
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Councilwoman Brinley clarified that the City would be providing the
trailer for the concessionaire. Community Services Director Sapp
confirmed.
Councilman Hickman asked for a fiscal breakdown of the project.
Community Services Director Sapp eaplained that $275,000 came
from grants and the balance of the money came from Park Funds
provided by developers for CapiYal Improvements. Councilman
Hickman clarified that the City would be purchasing the trailer.
Community Services Director Sapp confirmed that the City would
purchase the trailer and noted that to date the City has spent $370,000,
which included the hardscape and purchase of the equipment. Mayor
Pro Tem Schiffner asked what was left to build on the site.
Community Services Director Sapp stated that there was nothing left
to build, and the only thing left to do was a picnic structure and the
landscaping, which would become Phase II of the project.
Councilman Hickman inquired if the City's share of the money was
tax dollars. Community Services Director Sapp stated that it was
developer fees, which were used for Park Capital Improvements.
Councilman Hickman questioned the County/resident fee difference.
There was general discussion regarding resident/non-resident fees for
use of the Skate Park and other City facilities. Councilman Hickman
clarified the fees for the Skate Park. City Manager Watenpaugh
explained the monitoring process for verifying addresses. Mayor
Kelley indicated that once they purchased their memberships there
would be a photo I.D. on hand. She noted that the students from the
different schools were planning outings at the Skate Park, such as
Student Government Day, eta
Councilman Buckley questionedthe term of the contract. He stated
that he would rather see the term split into a 4-year contract with a 4-
year renewal, since the City had never done business with this group
of people. Mayor Pro Tem Schiffner stated that the City was willing
to offer the first concessionaire a 3-year contract with a 5-year
renewal and they had never run a park before. He indicated that
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Spohn Ranch presently operated several parks and had been in the
business for a long time.
Councilman Hickman asked if a sunscreen for the facility had been
considered. Community Services Director Sapp explained that at the
park in Escondido the participants wear gloves and misters were
installed. Councilman Hickman asked how many children could
participate at any one time. Community Services Director Sapp
explained that there was a formula and it would amount to
approximately 50 children at a time. He indicated that the park would
be used for skateboards and in-line skaters. He noted the difficulty of
bicycles using the facilities.
There was general discussion regarding vandalism and how it would
be handled at the Skate Park.
Councilman Buckley asked how much it cost to light a ball field at
night. Community Services Sapp stated that Swick/Matich Field cost
$13.00 an hour to light. Councilman Buckley concluded that the ball
field costs approximately $15 to $16 thousand a year to light. He
noted that all the City would receive in revenue would be
approximately $7,000 year. City Manager Watenpaugh indicated that
the Skate Park would use the same amount of electricity as two tennis
courts, which would cost considerably less then a ballpark.
Community Services Director Sapp stated that it would cost
approximately $3.50 to $4.00 an hour to light. Councilman Buckley
stated that the City would not see revenue from the park for at least 5
years. Mayor Pro Tem Schiffner noted that the City did not receive
revenue for graffiti removal or replacement of a damaged tree. Mayor
Kelley stated that if Councilman Buckley wished to break out costs,
then the cost of not replacing items should be taken into consideration
since the children now had an adequate safe place to be instead of
skating in the parks and on the steps of the Chamber of Commerce.
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Councilman Buckley addressed the insurance and stated that he did
not feel it was adequate. City Attorney Leibold stated that the JPIA
did suggest a higher limit, however the concessionaire was unable to
meet that limit and presented an overview of the accidents that have
occurred within 93 cities that have skate parks. There was general
discussion regarding how the insurance functions and covers
liabilities.
Councilwoman Brinley stated that now that the Skate Park was
opening the City could address an ordinance to protect the industrial
areas and local businesses from illegal skateboarding. She suggested
the areas be posted and a small fine set to encourage the kids to use
the Skate Park rather than sidewalks and parking lots.
City Attorney Leibold stated that she had done some research and
there were no ordinances regulating drag racing. She stated that she
would do further investigation.
Redevelopment A~enc~genda Review
No Comments.
ADJOURNMENT
THE CITY COUNCIL/REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY STUDY
SESSION WAS ADJOURNED AT 5:10 P.M.
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E KELLEY, M"AYOR
OF LAKE ELSINOR
Respectfully submitted,
Adria L. Paredes, Deputy City Clerk
A3'TEST:
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VICIi4.I'KASAD, C. .C., CITY CLERK
`HUbrAN RESOURCES DIRECTOR
v 'ITY OF LAKE ELSINORE