HomeMy WebLinkAbout03-20-2003 City Council Study SessionMINUTES
CITY COUNCIL STUDY SESSION
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
183 NORTA MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA
TUESDAY, MARCH 20, 2003
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CALL TO ORDER
Mayor Brinley called the Study Session to order at 3:07 p.m.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: BUCKLEY, HICKMAN,
SCHIFFNER, BRINLEY
ABSENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: KELLEY
Also present were: City Manager Watenpaugh, Assistant City Manager
Best, City Attorney Leibold, Community Development Director Brady,
Community Services Director Sapp, Information/Communications Manager
Dennis, Lake Operations Manager Kilroy, Director of Administrative
Services Boone, and Deputy City Clerk Gibbons.
TRANSPORTATION UNIFORM MITIGATION FEE - TUMF
(F:140.1)
City Manager Watenpaugh introduced Rick Bishop, Executive Director of
WRCOG. He presented an overview of the TUMF and the ways it could
affect the City. Councilman Hickman questioned whether the TUMF could
be separate from the Habitat Fees. Mr. Bishop stated that the approval
would include both. Mayor Brinley inquired into the possibility of a lawsuit
with the City for MSHCP. Mr. Bishop stated that TUMF litigation would be
defended by WRCOG, however MSHCP was a separate issue. There was
further discussion regarding the issues involving potential lawsuits and the
funding shortfalls. Mayor Pro Tem Schiffner indicated that he could see the
benefits to the TUMF however, he would like a commitment from WRCOG
for legal protection. Mr. Bishop referred to the Nexus Study and noted how
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it provided support in the event of litigation. Mayor Pro Tem Schiffner
requested clarification as to whether the defense covered losses and Mr.
Bishop could not clarify. Ciry Attorney Leibold noted her doubts as to
WRCOG's strong legal standing. City Attorney Leibold addressed the issue
of funds running out prior to the completion of a project. Mr. Bishop stated
that if that occurred they could use State and Federal funds. There was
discussion regarding the long term effects if they chose not to participate.
There was further discussion regarding when the fees would be imposed.
Mr. Bishop indicated that they would be imposed at the issuance of a
building permit or as the law allowed. He noted that many jurisdictions
adopted ordinances to approve the TUMF fee. City Manager Watenpaugh
gave a brief overview of the voting structure in the TUMF. There was
discussion regarding the voting structure.
Frans Bigelow, Castle & Cooke (Murdock Properties), questioned what the
impact would be to Lake Elsinore if they did not adopt the TUMF. He noted
that Riverside County had adopted the TUMF.
MULTI-SPECIES HABITAT CONSERVATION PLAN - MSHCP
City Manager Watenpaugh addressed where Riverside County was in the
process.
Mr. Lashbrook, Executive Director for the Riverside County MSHCP, stated
that the County closed the service comment period on March 14, 2003 and a
tentative Public Hearing was scheduled for late April or early May. He
noted that the Nexus Study was under review and if the numbers were
consistent, it would be ready for review in three to four weeks.
There was discussion regarding the loss of land to the City as well as the
potential loss of LLMD revenues and property values. Mayor Brinley
inquired why the MSHCP was tied to Measure A. Mr. Lashbrook noted that
Measure A was approved by RCTC and they set the ground rules for
Measure A. There was discussion regarding the loss of potential sales tax
revenues and lack of development. There was further
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discussion on the fiscal impact to the City. Mr. Lashbrook compared the
open space uses with those of the Santa Rosa Plateau.
Councilman Buckley left the meeting at 4:24 p.m.
Mayor Brinley noted her concern for legal issues if other agencies had
control of the community. She further indicated that agencies had more
influence and jurisdiction than Council.
Councilman Buckley returned to the table at 4:25 p.m.
City Manager Watenpaugh addressed the impact if the City Council did not
adopt the MSHCP Plan. Mr. Lashbrook stated that the plan would be re-
evaluated. He further noted that the goal was to give the City control, not
take the control away.
PUBLIC COMMENTS
Frans Bigelow, representing Castle & Cooke noted the impact of the
MSHCP on commercial property. He further noted the property owners'
potential loss of control.
Bill Kennedy, Barratt Homes, stated that the only benefits outlined in the
Nexus Study were in favor of Riverside County. He addressed the potential
lawsuits and where the funds would come from if a judge ordered a refund.
Don Summers, Realty Center, noted his opposition to the MSHCP due to the
growth issues.
Glen Dagle, Oak Grove Equities, addressed the land use issues and
Riverside County's policy for steep elevation areas
City Manager Watenpaugh provided an overview of the Nexus Study and
the cells.
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Mayor Brinley thanked Mr. Bishop and Mr. Lashbrook for attending the
meeting and for the information they provided.
City Manager Watenpaugh thanked Mr. Bishop and Mr. Lashbrook for
attending the meeting and far the information they provided.
ADJOURNMENT
THE CITY COUNCIL STUD; SION WAS ADJOURNED AT 5:40
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CITY OF LAKE
Respectfully submitted,
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Lisa Gibbons, City Clerk's Office
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CHI KASAD, CMC, CITY CLERK/
HUMAN RESOURCES DIRECTOR
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE