HomeMy WebLinkAbout10-23-2007 SSMINUTES
JOINT CITY COUNCIL/REDEVELOPMEIVT AGENCY
STUDY SESSION
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
183 NORTH MAIN STREET
LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA
TUESDAY, OCTOBER 23, 2007
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CALL TO ORDER
Mayor Magee called the Joint Study Session to order at 4:00 p.m.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: MAYOR MAGEE
COUNCILMEMBER KELLEY
COUNCILMEMBER SCHIFFNER
ABSENT: MAYOR PRO TEM HICKMAN (Arrived at 4:05 p.m.)
COUNCILMEMBERBUCKLEY (Arrived at 4:19 p.m.
Also present were: City Manager Brady, Deputy City Attorney Mann, City Treasurer
Weber, Administrative Services Director Pressey, Community Development Director
Preisendanz, Parks and Recreation Director Gonzales, Building & Safety Manager
Chipman, Information/Communications Manager Dennis, City Engineer Seumalo, Public
Works Manager Payne, Planning Manager Weiner and City Clerk Munson.
DISCUSSION ITEMS
Mayor Magee gave an overview of the presentations and confirmed that the awardees
would be present at the 7:00 p.m. meeting.
PUBLIC COMMENTS
No comments.
CONSENT CALENDAR
(4) Minutes - Various Meetinqs
No comments.
(5) Warrant List Dated October 15. 2007
No comments.
(6) Claims Against the Citv
No comments.
(7) Aareement for Propertv Tax Manaqement Services with HdL Coren & Cone
Mayor Pro Tem Hickman expressed his concerns using HdL. He inquired about
a report due from HdL for the Redevelopment Agency on the John Laing
development.
Administrative Services Director Pressey responded the City has been working
with HdL to complete the project. He stated the City has set deadlines and goals
and has met with Laing Homes and will be meeting with staff and Laing Homes
on the final version of the product.
Mayor Pro Tem Hickman inquired on the amount of money the City paid HdL
over their base salary.
Administrative Services Director Pressey responded HdL has not collected any
incentive money.
(8) Southwest California Economic Alliance
Mayor Pro Tem Hickman inquired why $60,000 was going to Supervisor Stone
Mayor Magee responded Supervisor Stone allows one of his staff members to
serve almost entirely on this effort and is reimbursement for a portion of her time
which Supervisor Stone's Office is covering.
Mayor Magee suggested Southwest California Economic Alliance focus on the
off-road and after-market equipment area to include boating and accessories.
He stated the City needs for them to attract a new dealership like Honda and
work on their revised target audiences, specifically Lake Elsinore.
City Manager Brady indicated Mr. Fields will be present at the Council meeting to
address Council's questions and concerns. He also indicated the City has a hub
zone that provides advantages in locating business that can get government
contracts within the City.
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(9) Safe Candv Niqht Street Closures
Mayor Pro Tem Hickman indicated he was glad the City had this program
because the kids really enjoy it.
(10) Status of the General Plan Update and Environmental Impact Report
Community Development Director Preisendanz reviewed the progress of the
work being done on the General Plan and Environmental Impact Report and
indicated the target date remains at the end of January 2008.
(11)
Levv of a Special Tax within Annexation Area No. 24 (River's Edqe)
Mayor Magee inquired if CFD No. 2003-1 be District 2007-1.
Administrative Services Director Pressey responded the developer was
conditioned in Annexed 2003-1 and through discussions with them, they have
agreed to the 2003-1 and staff thought that was appropriate. All new
developments are conditioned into 2007-1.
(12) Resolution of Intention to Annex Propertv into Communitv Facilities District No
2006-5 (Parks. Open Space and Storm Drain Maintenancel and to Authorize the
Levv of a Special Tax within Annexation Area No 3(River's Edqe)
No comments.
(13) Park Maintenance Contract Extension
Councilmember Kelley requested ciarification on why the contract is being
extended again.
Parks and Recreation Director Gonzales confirmed the contract was extended
once before; however, more time was required to review the Park Landscape
specifications which provided more detailed information to ensure clarity to the
contractor and extended the bid process by 12 weeks. He noted this extension is
a month-to-month extension not to exceed March 315f and the City plans to rap
this contract up in early January or February.
(14) Approval of Contract to Update Drainaqe Master Plan and Storm Drainaqe
Development Impact Fees
Mayor Pro Tem Hickman inquired if this related to the outline of ail of the pipes.
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Public Works Director Seumalo responded this was the clean water runoff and is
just in advance of storm water.
Mayor Magee inquired about the target date for the completion of this project.
Public Works Director Seumalo responded he would have to get back to the
Mayor on a completion date but indicated it would be a longer study to look at the
water shed.
(15) Pine Street - Realiqnment and Paving Contract Award
Councilmember Kelly requested clarification on why the street needed
realignment.
City Manager Brady responded the street alignment went across a residenYs
property and now the City is looking into placing the street where the dedicated
right-of-way exists.
Mayor Pro Tem Hickman inquired if there were six lots that were impacted by
this.
Public Works Director Seumalo confirmed.
Councilmember Buckley inquired if this should be done by piece meal or to figure
out what needs to be done and utilized a larger contract because there wiil be
additional properties to address.
Public Works Director Seumalo responded staff is going case-by-case and at this
time, the City does not have a program or the funds to do this City-wide.
City Manager Brady also responded that doing this on a case-by-case basis is
the best way to do it; however, before any additional streets are paved, the City
is going to have the streets surveyed to ensure the streets are on the right-of-
way.
(16) Reallocate Funds to Alternative Fisherv Enhancements in Lieu of Carp Removal
Councilmember Schiffner stated this was approved by LESJWA and only
required City Councii's action.
Mayor Pro Tem Hickman inquired if the City considered looking into shooting the
carp with bow and arrow.
Lake and Aquatic Resources Director Kilroy responded the City can consider that
process; however, there are safety issues to consider. He stated he would like to
work with the Lake Elsinore Bass Club about doing some type of carp round-up.
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(17) Habitat Prolect Implementation Apreement (Back Basin Inlet Channel Area)
Lake and Aquatic Resources Director Kilroy and John Wolters of VA Consulting,
hired by WatersEdge to perform the engineering work, reviewed the project for
City Council.
Mayor Pro Tem Hickman inquired if this would be used for a fish hatchery.
Lake and Aquatic Resources Director Kilroy responded these are integrated
created wet-lands that happen to have some fish in them and can help in the
need to produce sport fish and with control of the carp off-spring population. He
noted there is another project going in the back basin wet-lands that is less than
five acres.
Mayor Pro Tem Hickman inquired on the cost of the project.
Lake and Aquatic Resources Director Kilroy responded it would be about
$900,000. He also stated the existing back basin wet lands is already set up with
a lot of the drainage and plumbing issues. He indicated this area has to have
water pumped into it and there were flooding issues that would evoke additional
expenses.
Mayor Magee commented the residents will still have pedestrian access on top of
the webbing and will be able to enjoy the habitat and reap the benefits of the
open space that is being created.
Lake and Aquatic Resources Director Kilroy confirmed.
Councilmember Buckley inquired about a creation of a bucket-line to avoid some
Mission Trail issues.
Lake and Aquatic Resources Director Kilroy responded it has been proposed to
build a temporary dike across the entrance of the river during the non-storm
season, subject to approval by a number of other agencies.
City Treasurer Weber had questions and comments regarding grants and credits.
Lake and Aquatic Resources Director Kilroy responded to his inquiry.
PUBLIC HEARINGS
(18) Resolution Approvinq the Annexation of Territorv and the Levv of Assessments
for Lake Elsinore Landscape and Street Liqhtinq District No. 1 as Annexation
Area No. 20 (California Business Condosl Pursuant to the Landscape and
Liqhtinp Act of 1972
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Mayor Pro Tem Hickman inquired if Silver Street could be vacated and the land
be split between them and the City.
City Manager Brady responded it has been discussed and is under consideration
but is not part of this project.
Mayor Magee stated there is a water district or flood control need for access.
City Manager Brady confirmed there is a parcel at the rear and there will have to
be an easement provided.
(19) Text Amendment No. 2007-04, Deletinq and Reservinq Chapter 17.06 of the
Lake Elsinore Municipal Code Reqardinq the Resource Conservation Overlav
District
No comments.
(20) Text Amendment No. 2007-05, Amendinq and Restatinq Section 17.35.020 of the
Lake Elsinore Municipal Code Reqardinq Residential Uses in Open Space
Districts
No comments.
(21) 2007/08 Supplemental Law Enforcement Services Fund (SLESF)
No comments.
(22) Continued Public Hearinq - Amendment to Sections 14.08.090(A) and 14.08.110
of the Lake Elsinore Municipal Code Reqardinq Permittinq of Non-Stormwater
Discharqes and Enforcement of Illeqal Discharqes
Mayor Pro Tem Hickman inquired if nets or screens need to be placed in the
street drains.
Public Works Director Seumalo responded this item was just to amend the City's
ordinance to allow the City to permit non-storm waters discharge and to evaluate
what non-storm waters are being dumped into the storm drains and how the
pollution would be mitigated.
Mayor Pro Tem Hickman inquired if the City had to do something to the storm
drains to catch foreign objects going into the storm drain and when this was
going to occur.
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Public Works Director Seumalo responded the City is utilizing filters to capture
pollutants in the lake and is a state-mandated program. He also stated the City
is a co-permittee with Riverside County.
City Treasurer Weber inquired if the City could put a net in front of lake.
Public Works Director Seumalo responded there was a logistics and huge
maintenance issue. He indicated many of the filters that are in the City's storm
drain are for hydrocarbons. He noted this would cause too much of a
maintenance issue placing only one fiiter at the lake.
(23) Joint Public Hearinca - Resolutions Authorizinq the Issuance of Bonds and
Approvinq Bond Documents for Communitv Facilities District No. 2005-5 (Villaqe
at Wasson Canvon)
City Manager Brady reviewed how the Joint Public Hearing process would occur.
BUSINESS ITEMS
(24) Downtown Master Plan Proposal
Mayor Pro Tem Hickman inquired if this proposal was going to follow the concept
of what they did down in San Diego.
City Manager Brady responded there is no plan or concept and it wili be up to the
City Council to provide direction.
Councilmember Buckley stated he had distributed an outiine to the City Council
(attached).
(25) Commercial Desiqn Review No. 2007-12 "Mission Trail Shoppinq Center,
Buildinq G"
Mayor Pro Tem Hickman inquired if there was enough parking.
City Manager Brady confirmed and indicated this was the location where there
was a fire adjacent to Stater Brothers store.
Mayor Brady inquired if there were potential tenant(s).
Community Development Director Preisendanz responded there was none at this
time and there could be more than one tenant.
(26) Washinqton, D.C. Lobbvina Services Contract Renewal
Mayor Pro Tem Hickman inquired if the City actually received an $800,000 grant.
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City Manager Brady responded this grant was for the outflow channel
landscaping for the City.
City Treasurer Weber expressed his concerns with the other projects on the
City's list for grants.
Mr. Kennett of the Ferguson Group, responded the City has a number of
challenges on the appropriations front. He noted funding is not as robust as it
was and currently, there is more funding going into San Diego County rather than
Riverside County. He indicated the City's Congressional Member of the House
remains supportive of the City's efforts and agenda.
Mayor Magee stated he would like to see the City to take another look at the
items on the City's list to include working with the Water District and add money
for the ultimate improvement of Highway 74 and I-15 and any other
improvements that may be necessary for the proposed takeover of Highway 74.
Mr. Kennett also suggested adding public safety funding in the future year
(27) Second Readinq - Ordinance No. 1232: Authorizinq the Levv of a Services
Special Tax and a Special Tax
No comments.
REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY
CONSENT CALENDAR
(1) Minutes - Various meetinps
No comments.
(2) Warrant List Dated October 15, 2007
No comments.
BUSINESS ITEMS
(3) Commerciai Desiqn Review No. 2007-12 "Mission Trail Shoppinq Center
Buildinp G"
No comments.
PUBLIC FINANCE AUTHORITY
CONSENT CALENDAR
(1) Minutes
No comments.
PUBLIC HEARING
(2)
at Wasson Canvon)
No comments.
ADJOURNMENT
Mayor Magee adjourned the Joint City Council/Redevelo ent Agency Study Session
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To - Lake Elsinore Mayor, City Council, and Staff
From - Thomas Buckley
Subject - Civic Center Alternate Recommendation
Discussion -
For the past 15 months, the people, elected officials, and staff inembers of the City of Lake
Elsinore have been engaged in an open and exciting process designed to both revitalize our
downtown area and construct much-needed public facilities. It appears, however, that this
process now stands at a crossroads and a decision whether to move forward or backwards or
sideways is now at hand.
During this process, the public has been actively involved in shaping the vision of a new vibrant
and eclectic downtown that will both benefit the neighborhood residents and the City as a whole.
This process has included numerous meetings and study sessions, a public survey, and an
internationally-recognized design competition for the new Civic Center, a key aspect to
improving the downtown.
A number of exciting ideas have been discussed and a number of new facts about how the
residents of Lake Elsinore feel about their City have been discovered. For example, the Civic
C~nter, particulazly when tied at least in part directly to the lake, is extremely popular.
So far, a half dozen different potential Civic Center sites have been winnowed down to two, or
even one, it could be argued, if one considers an overall holistic approach to the matter of
downtown redevelopment.
However, since the announcement of the Design Competition Jury's selection of finalists, a
certain amount of unnecessary confusion and misinformation has sadly been injected into the
p cess. This has caused what I believe to be an unnecessary reappraisal of the entire process
tha ould jeopardize the success of one of the most important City and RDA projects in years.
For example, the proposals from the Design Competition finalists are simply that - proposals.
None aze set in stone (or brick or glass or what-have-you) and aze subject to significant
streamlining and increased specificity by the City. Sadly, an effort in August to allow the
finalists to explain their ideas to the residents and to hear from the residents in an open give-and-
take failed. (For example, despite being designated as finalists, none of the designers' siting
proposals were included in the informational packet distributed to the public and the Council.)
While certain elements of the staff recommendation before the Council and Agency board
Tuesday night have merit, the overall effect of approving the entire package of recommendations
would be detrimental to our City. To that end, I will offer the following alternate
recommendation/motion for consideration by the Council and Agency Board during Tuesday's
session.
• That the RDA immediately contact the owners of all existing commercial structures in
the downtown area and coordinate a new facade grant program to improve and renovate
said structures
• That the design firms be given until February, 2008, to complete their work
• That upon selection of a final design/plan, the City and/or Agency shall select an outside
professional project manager to oversee the entire effort. That manager shall be chosen
by the Council and Boazd pending recommendation from a selection sub-committee
consisting of the Mayor, RDA Chair, and CityManager
• After the final design/plan has been chosen, that RDA and City staff present their land-
use and design and planning selections for the remainder of downtown
I have sent you this information as it would probably be a bit much to take in all at once during
the Tuesday meeting itsel£ I hope you have found it helpful
Thomas Buckley