HomeMy WebLinkAbout03-04-2003 Special City CouncilMINUTES
SPECIAL CITY COUNCIL MEETING
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
183 NORTH MAIN STREET
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE
THURSDAY, MARCH 4, 2003
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CALL TO ORDER
Mayor Brinley called the City Council Special Meeting to order at 4:02 p.m.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
Mayar Brinley led the Pledge of Allegiance.
ROLL CALL
PRESENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: BUCKLEY, HICKMAN,
KELLEY, SCHIFFNER,
BRINLEY
ABSENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: NONE
Also present were: City Manager Watenpaugh, Assistant City Manager
Best, Deputy City Attorney Mann, Assistant City Attorney Van Blarcom,
Administrative Services Director Boone, Community Development Director
Brady, Community Services Director Sapp, Information/Communications
Manager Dennis, Public Works Manager Payne, Lake Operatiors Manager
Kilroy, Recreation and Tourism Manager Fazzio and Deputy City Clerk
Paredes.
DISCUSSION ITEM
Consideration of recycled water for Lake Elsinore. (F:92.1)(X:164.1)
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City Manager Watenpaugh noted that on February 27, 2003,
EVMWD entered into an agreement with Eastern Municipal Water
District to purchase 600 acre feet of recycled water to complete their
commitment of 1,500 acre feet of water for Lake Elsinore. He
indicated that because of EVMWD's amended agreement with
EMWD there was an opportunity for EVMWD and the City to
purchase an additiona1900-acre foot of recycled water at a 50%
reduced rate. He stated that half the money would come from the
$650,000 that was the city's share of the Agreement for the se~aside.
He stated that staff recommended approval.
Mayor Pro Tem Schiffner indicated his approval of the action.
Councilman Hickman concurred with Mayor Pro Tem Schiffner. He
asked how much it would cost from the City's share. City Manager
Watenpaugh stated that it would be $40,050.
Councilwoman Kelley questionedthe Lake level. City Manager
Watenpaugh stated that it was at 1236.6'. She supported the
recommendation.
Councilman Buckley asked if the City had to do any environmental
testing. City Manager Watenpaugh stated that no testing was
required. Councilman Buckley asked where the water would be
released. City Manager Watenpaugh stated that it would be released
in the location of the Public Works Yard and run down the Outflow
Channel to the Lake. Councilman Buckley stated that he was in favor
of the action.
Mayor Brinley stated that she was in favor of buying the water.
MOVED BY KELLEY, SECONDED BY BUCKLEY AND CARRIED
BY UNANIMOUS VOTE TO APPROVE THE PURCFIASE OF 900
ACRE FEET OF RECYCLED WATER FROM EASTERN
MUNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT AT A COST OF $50,100 TO BE
SHARED BY THE CITY AND ELSINORE VALLEY MUNICIPAL
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WATER DISTRICT; TAE FUNDS WOULD COME FROM THE
CITY'S $650,000 SHARE OF THE LAKE ELSINORE WATER
FIJND.
2. Consideration of Skate Park Operations Subsidy. (F58.1)(X:114.14)
City Manager Watenpaugh presented an overview of the item.
Community Services Director Sapp presented a history of the project
and explained that on November 18, 2002, the Community Services
Department received a proposal from Action Park Alliance to have the
City partner in the operations of the skate park which had sustained a
$37,151 operating loss through its first nine months. The
concessionaire proposed that the City subsidize the staffing expenses
at the facility which would provide a free park and would create
increased interest in the park. He noted that this could vault
merchandise sales at the facility and allow the concessionaire to
generate increased revenue from merchandise and snack concessions
in which the City would then be entitled to all revenues above the
concessionaire's 20% profit margin on gross sales, including
memberships, food, drinks, product sales, sponsorships and subsidies.
He noted that the benefits of subsidizing the operation of the skate
park were as follows:
• Operator provides $S,OOO,OOO liability cushion against claims;
• Operator continues daily maintenance of facility;
• Operator is responsible for all payroll and staffing issues;
• Facility operated by professional people with contracts for
professional assistance, retail, and merchandise procurement and
provides access for special activities for a unique segment of the
population;
• Provides access to marketing within the industry and professional
circuit/activities in promoting and exposing the facility to the
unique skating community.
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Community Services Directar Sapp stated that staff recommended that
Council approve the authorization of expenditures of $25,000 for the
operation of the McVicker Skate Park for the balance of FY 2002-03,
and not to exceed $50,000 for FY 03-04 from the City's operating
budget; direct the City Attorney to amend the contract as necessary to
reflect an "Operator's Agreement" with calculations for revenues
exceeding the 20% profit margin of the operator and implementation
of the "free skate' concept; direct staff to meet with the
concessionaire/operator for the purpose of developing a
comprehensive marketing plan for the facility; and implement an
immediate "free skate" period through June 30, 2003 requiring no
membership fees for the balance of FY 2002-03.
Eric Lee, Action Park Alliance, Inc., indicated that the impact of a
supervised skate park was an asset to the community. He noted that
the number one complaint was the cost and noted that if a child was to
use the park once a week for a three hour session it would cost $186
for one year. He indicated that it would cost a member that used the
park five times a week $810. He indicated that the average age of the
participant at the park was age 7 to 12 and it was difficult for a child
to have access to $810 plus the cost of equipment and transportation.
He noted that skateboarding was the 6`h largest sport in the United
States and female participation had increased 23% in the last year. He
stated that it was his opinion that the increase in female participation
was due to supervision and a safe environment. He presented an
overview of the current promotions they had done and the activities
and promotions they were planning. He indicated that it not only
promoted the Skate Park, but promoted the City as well. He noted an
experiment they did in the City of Lodi and how successful that the
event was.
Councilwoman Kelley indicated that she was in favor of the Skate
Park and had helped to organize it. She felt that it was an asset to the
community and stated that the park was not free since it was important
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to have a supervised park for safety. She commended Action Paxk
Alliance, Inc. for their hard work. She noted that the City of
Temecula had a Park Assessment District and could afford to build
and operate their parks at no cost, however the citizens of Lake
Elsinare did not wish to have a Park Assessment District and it made
it difficult to provide the facilities without charging. She stated that
she felt that it was no different than providing parks for baseball,
softball and soccer. She commented that she wished to see a safe and
supervised activity far the kids. She stated that she felt that the Skate
Park was a quality of life issue which provided service to the children
in the community.
Loraine Watts, 210 N. Scrivener, spoke in favor of assisting the Skate
Park. She stated that it was a safe recreation for the children and the
only concern that she had was the cost. She commented on the burden
to parents with more than one child; and stated that if there were no
fee those children could utilize the facility and spend their money with
the vendor for their equipment, which would come back to the City in
their increment. She asked if there was transportation for the children
to get to the park. Mayor Brinley stated lhat she was working with
RTA to have a bus run up to the Skate Park for the children.
Steve Kirkoff, 50 Bella Donaci, spoke in favor of the Skate Park and
noted that the cost was severe for several of the children, however he
felt that the supervision was a necessary part of the Skate Park and he
knew that there had to be a fee. He commented that there would be
more children using the Skate Park if there was no fee. He
commented that he had been to several other Skate Parks and in his
opinion Lake Elsinore Skate Park was run better than the other parks.
Councilman Hickman asked him what time he used the facility. Mr.
Kirkoff stated that he and his son used the Skate Park from 6 to 9
p.m., 3 times a week.
Marie Smith, 124 S. Torn Ranch Road, spoke in favor of the Skate
Park and stated that she felt that it was necessary to have supervision.
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She stated that by reducing the price or making it free would
encourage the kids to use the Park and keep them off the streets. She
stated that a supervised Park requires safety equipment and a safe
environment. She thanked the City for providing the Skate Park.
Steve Myburger, 28106 Lindell, spoke in favor of the Skate Park and
the possibility of opening it up to the children free. He commented
that his son utilized the park on Friday, Saturday and Sunday every
week and he appreciated the safe environment it provided.
Ryan Smith, 124 S. Torn Ranch Road, stated that he used the Park and
appreciated the efforts of the City to provide a safe environment. He
stated that he was in favor of making the park free, since more kids
would use the park.
Justin Kirkoff, 50 Bella Donaci, spoke in favor of the Skate Park and
agreed that it would receive more use if it was free. He noted that
several kids he knows can't afford to pay for both the sessions and
the necessary safety equipment. He thanked the City for the Skate
Park. Mayor Brinley asked ifit was a free park, would it keep the
children off the sidewalks in front of the businesses. Justin Kirkoff
stated that it would probably provide a place where most of kids
would go and not be in front of businesses.
Councilman Buckley stated that he did not have a problem with Parks
and Skate facilities. He commented that he had received a call from
one of the owners of the motocross park, and they would be happy to
install a skate park at that site. He stated that when activities are
placed close to each other they tend to draw more people. He
commented that he could think of a lot of other things to spend City
money on and stated that $60,000 fills a lot of pot holes; removes a lot
of graffiti; and keeps the dirt roads from being too dusty. He stated
that it was sad that it didn't work out, however the Skate Park had
clearly failed and he felt that there was an option in the near future to
allow a private entity to open a Skate Park, at no cost to the City, that
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would be free to the City residents. He commented that the City was
providing a Park and Recreation service, but by taking this action the
City would be subsidizing a concessionaire and he felt that would not
be appropriate.
Mayor Pro Tem Schiffner stated that the City had spent a great deal of
money building the Skate Park. He indicated that the City had no
experience on how to reasonably establish a fee; and now that the
Park has had time to operate the City can better judge and come up
with a reasonable cost to keep it in q~eration. He noted that the City
had an alternate plan that if the Skate Park failed, the site could be
turned into Tennis Courts; however he was not ready to go to the
alternate plan. He commented that the City did not build the Skate
Park to make money for the City, but rather for a recreational facility,
which the City was obligated to provide. He indicated that he was in
favor of giving it another try. He noted that he felt that keeping the
Park open was a good expenditure of funds to provide recreation for
the kids and would allow Council to see if keeping the Park open
would keep the kids off the streets, and at the end of the budgeted
time Council can reevaluate the Skate Park. He asked if the City
eliminated the fee, would it create the problem of too many kids at the
Park. Mr. Lee stated that the insurance had set guidelines and there
were only 50 allowed to use the facility at a time, however there were
multiple three hour sessions and that would make it available to a
great many more children. He stated that their main goal was safety
and explained that they could keep track of the children at all times.
Mayor Pro Tem Schiffner asked for the web site address. Mr. Lee
stated that it was www.skateparkofelsinore.com. Mayor Pro Tem
Schiffner stated that he was in favor of theSkate Park for the children.
Councilman Hickman questioned the revenues of the Skate Park for
October, November, and December. Mr. Lee stated that in October
they were $2,400; November, $1,784; and December, $1,900.
Councilman Hickman questioned the hours of the Park. Mr. Lee
stated that Monday through Friday they were open 3:00 p.m. to 9:00
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p.m., and 12:00 p.m. to 9:00 p.m. on Saturday and Sunday.
Councilman Hickman questioned the location. Mr. Lee stated that it
was in a beautiful location and the afternoon breeze made it
comfortable in the summer. Councilman Hickman stated that Council
should consider a different location since it was difficult for the kids
to get to it. He suggested Machado Park. He agreed that the Skate
Park did keep the children off the streets, but he felt that it was too
hard for the children to get to the current Skate Park. He stated that he
would be in favor of subsidizing the Skate Park for six months and
then making another consideration at budget review.
Mayor Brinley stated that she had several complaints from businesses
owner regarding skateboarders. She noted that they placed the
patrons of the businesses in danger. She stated that if the Skate Park
were free, then it would encourage the kids to use the facility instead
of skateboarding in front of businesses. She indicated that she was
working on the transportation for the kids. She asked if the BMX at
the Skate Park damaged the equipment. Mr. Lee assured her that it
did not. She commented that if the City provided a free Skate Park it
would boost the sales by the concessionaire and would pay at least a
portion of the cost back to the City. She noted the promotion and
marketing for the Skate Park and the advantages that it could bring to
the kids. She commented on traveling teams and suggested that it
should be marketed by Mr. Lee. She commented that the City
provided parks for Little League, Softball and Soccer and noted that
this was another park providing a different form of recreation. She
stated that she was in favor of giving the park another 11/2 years and
then there could be a better evaluation.
MOVED BY SCffiFFNER, SECONDED BY KELLEY TO
AUTHORIZE EXPENDITURES OF $25,000 FOR THE OPERATION
OF THE MCVICKER SKATE PARK FOR THE BALANCE OF FY
2002-03 AND NOT TO EXCEED $50,000 FOR FY 2003-04 FROM
THE CITY'S OPERATING BUDGET; DIRECT THE CITY
ATTORNEY TO AMEND THE CONTRACT AS NECESSARY TO
REFLECT AN "OPERATOR'S AGREEMENT" WITH
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CALCULATIONS FOR REVENUES EXCEEDING 20% PROFIT
MARGIN OF THE OPERATION - AND IMPLEMENTATION OF
THE "FREE SKATE" CONCEPT; DIRECT STAFF TO MEET WITH
THE CONCESSIONAIRE/OPERATOR FOR THE PURPOSE OF
DEVELOPING A COMPREHENSIVE MARKETING PLAN FOR
THE FACILITY; AND IMPLEMENT AN IlVIlVIEDIATE "FREE
SKATE" PERIOD THROUGH JUNE 30, 2003 REQUIRING NO
MEMBERSHIP FEES FOR THE BALANCE OF FY 2002-03.
Councilman Hickman suggested subsidizing the Skate Park until June,
2003.
THE FOREGOING MOTION WAS APPROVED BY A VOTE OF
THREE TO TWO WITH BUCKLEY AND HICKMAN CASTING
THE DISSENTING VOTES.
ADJOURNMENT
MOVED BY KELLEY, SECONDED BY SCHIFFNER AND
CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE TO ADJOURN THE SPECIAL
CITY COUNCIL MEETING AT 5:00 P.M. _
~'AlC'IELA BR~LEY, MAYQ
CITY OF LA ELSINORE
Respectfully submitted,
Adria L. Paredes, Deputy City Clerk
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, CITY CLERK/
HUMAN RESOURCES DIRECTOR
CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE