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HomeMy WebLinkAbout01-28-2003 City Council Minutes_ ._ , MINUTES - REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE 183 NORTH MAIN STREET LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA TUESDAY, JANUARY 28, 2003 *:~~*:~~~~~~:~~~~:~:~~:~:~~:~:~~:~~~:~*~:~x:~~*****~~:~**~~:~~~~~~:~~~~:~~*~~:~~~~:~~ CALL TO ORDER The Regular City Council Meeting was called to order by Mayor Brinley at 5:00 p.m. ROLL CALL PRESENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: ABSENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: BUCKLEY, HICKMAN, KELLEY, SCHIFFNER, BRINLEY NONE Also present were: City Manager Watenpaugh, Assistant City Manager Best, City Attorney Leibold, Administrative Services Director Boone, Community Development Director Brady, Information/Communications Manager Dennis, Recreation/Tourism Manager Fazzio and Deputy City Clerk Paredes. CLOSED SESSION A. CONFERENCE WITH LEGAL COUNSEL-ANTICIPATED - Signi~cant exposure to litigation pursuant to subdivision (b) of Section 54956.9 (1 case). (F:52.1)(X:40.1) City Attorney Leibold announced the Closed Session discussion item as listed above. THE REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING WAS RECESSED TO CLOSED SESSION AT 5:01 P.M. PAGE TWO - CITY COUNCIL MINUTES - JANUARY 28, 2003 The Closed Session discussion was completed at 5:35 p.m. RECONVENE PUBLIC SESSION (7:00 p.m.) Mayor Brinley reconvened the Regular City Council Meeting in public session at 7:00 p.m. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE The Pledge of Allegiance was led by Information/Communications Manager Dennis. INVOCATION Mayor Brinley led the meeting in a moment of silent reflection. ROLL CALL PRESENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: BUCKLEY, HICKMAN, KELLEY, SCHIFFNER, BRINLEY ABSENT: COUNCILMEMBERS: NONE Also present were: City Manager Watenpaugh, Assistant City Manager Best, City Attorney Leibold, Administrative Services Director Boone, Community Development Director Brady, Community Services Director Sapp, Acting Fire Chief Shymanski, Police Chief Walsh, Information/Communications Manager Dennis and City C1erWHuman Resources Director Kasad. PRESENTATIONS Mayor Brinley noted that there were actually two presentations; item A as listed on PAGE THREE - CITY COUNCIL MINUTES - JANUARY 28, 2003 the Agency and a presentation from Mr. Kipp/Abaccy Holding Company to the Lake Elsinore Historical Society. A. Presentation - Unity in the Community - SK Walk/Run Committee. (F:62.1) Mayor Brinley provided an overview of the Unity in the Community event and noted that it was conceived from the CAP Conference a few years ago. She noted the donations and sponsorships for the event and commended the Committee on their efforts. Jana Kaas commented that the idea for the event began three years ago, but did not become a reality until the City agreed to participate. She thanked the City and Water District for their participation. She noted that the biggest sponsors were all local businesses. She also noted that they have kept the registration costs low so everyone could participate. She indicated that the event was not originally intended to be a fundraiser, but this year, due to the community support, they were able to donate $500 to six different organizations, including the after school programs at the community center. The committee was identified as Nancy Crouse, Ruth Taylor, Chris Facundo, Mary Brown, Roy Southwick, Kenny Kaas, Janna Kaas, David Bundy, Brittany Valdez, Ashley Landeros and Teri Fazzio; and presented each of those present with a plaque. Mayor Brinley congratulated the Committee on a job well done. B. Presentation - Historical Society. (F:108.1) Mayor Brinley called Donna Moran, representing the Histarical Society, and Bill Kipp, representing Abaccy Holding Company forward for this presentation. She indicated that this was a great evening for the Historical Society, as they were in the process of restoring the Cultural Center Basement and they would be receiving a contribution to that effort. She also noted Mr. & Mrs. Kipp's donations to the Community and indicated that they would be presenting the Historical Society with a check. Bill and PAGE FOUR - CTTY COUNCIL MINUTES - JANUARY 28, 2003 Cassandra Kipp presented the Historical Society with at check for $5,000 to assist them in 2003. Mr. Kipp also presented the Historical Society with a plaque dedicated to one of the founding families and requested that it be replaced at the appropriate playground. Ms. Moran indicated thaf she was speechless; and noted that they had begun work on the basement and were well on their way. She further indicated that the generous check from Mr. & Mrs. Kipp was 1/3`d of the money they needed for the second phase of their project in the basement. She invited the community to see their ongoing wark. She thanked Mr. & Mrs. Kipp for their contribution and indicated that the Society would find a home for the plaque. Mayor Brinley further thanked Mr. & Mrs. Kipp for their generous donations to the City. CLOSED SESSION REPORT City Attorney Leibold reported that the City Council met in Closed Session as listed on the agenda, with no reportable action. PUBLIC COMMENTS - AGENDIZED ITEMS Requests were received to address the following items and deferred to those discussions: Item Nos. 5, 34 and 36. CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS The following item was pulled from the Consent Calendar for further discussion and consideration: Item Nos. 5. MOVED BY KELLEY, SECONDED BY SCHIFFNER AND CARRIED BY PAGE FIVE - CITY COUNCIL MINUTES - JANUARY 28, 2003 UNANIMOUS VOTE TO APPROVE THE BALANCE OF THE CONSENT CALENDAR AS PRESENTED. The following Minutes were received and ordered filed: a. Planning Commission Meeting - December 19, 2002. (F:60.3) 2. Ratified Warrant List for January 15, 2003. (F:12.3) 3. Received and ordered filed the Investment Report for December, 2002. (F:12.5) 4. Approved Final Tract Map 29637, subject to the City Engineer's acceptance as being true and correct, and accepting all dedications at the time of recordation; authorized the City Clerk to sign the map and arrange for recordation; and autharized the City Clerk to obtain the required signatures on the Agreement for Construction of Public Improvements. (F:160.2) BUSINESS ITEMS 31. Resolution of SupportNLF. (F36.1)(X:96.1) City Manager Watenpaugh explained the Vehicle License Fees (VLF) which comes back to local government to support general fund services. He advised that this year the State, in balancing the budget, was looking to take those dollars and not backfill them; however this resolution would support the triggering mechanism to backfill for local entities and guarantee VLF to the cities. He indicated that for Lake Elsinore this would mean $500,000 in February and $1.2 million in 2003-2004, or the current cost for fire service. He advised that the League of California Cities was lobbying in Sacramento, and that the Assembly had moved forward this afternoon in support of this backfill. He recommended letters be sent to the Government and the local representatives for reinstatement of the VLF for local government. PAGE SIX - CITY COiTNCIL MINUTES - JANUARY 28, 2003 Councilwoman Kelley expressed support for this Resolution. Councilman Buckley requested clarification that this was not the car tax, but rather one of two components. City Manager Watenpaugh clarified the triggering mechanism approved in 1998, which would reinstate $115 of the license fee. He advised that final verbiage would be obtained tomorrow, however the League was asking for support of the existing legislation adopted in 1998. Councilman Buckley inquired if everyone would pay the $115 next year. City Manager Watenpaugh further clarified that the VLF was reduced by a percentage, but it would reinstate $115 of the fee. Councilman Buckley indicated that it was clearly important that the State make good on what it owed the cities, he was hesitant to support an increase in the fees to allow the cities to make up the difference. He indicated that he would like to have the State find the money somewhere else. He further indicated that the Resolution suggested that the State keep their word and give the cities the money, which is fine, but he would have a problem if it increased the fees. City Attorney Leibold clarified that the prior reduction was due to a surplus of funds in the State budget, but the agreement with the reduction was that the funds were to be made up to the cities; and if the budget did not allow for assistance to the cities the State would reinstate the license fee. Councilman Buckley inquired if this was separate from the fee based on the value of the vehicle. City Manager Watenpaugh detailed the history of the VLF up to the reduction in 1998; and reiterated that per the 1998 legislation the trigger had been reached for reimplementation of the fee and backfill of the dollars to local government. He noted that the proposed resolution was as presented by the League, but indicated that the Council could alter the Resolution as they saw fit, noting that a City to the south suggested backfill without reinstating the fees. Mayor Pro Tem Schiffner indicated that he was not suggesting how the State got the money to reimburse the cities, but supported the recommended resolution to insure continued payments. ~ ~.•:F ~ . ~~.a . Councilman Hickman mdicated that Govemor Davis had proposed to raid local revenues ~or the State deficit. ',He commented ihaY he did not thirik this action would matter much, but it worked to protect the things the City was entitled to. Mayor Brinley indicated that all cities needed their VLF fees, but noted that the proposed budget also took money from the Redevelopment Agency. She stressed if it was possible to gain a few extra pennies, it was worth this action. MOVED BY SCHIFFNER, SECONDED BY KELLEY AND CARRIED BY A VOTE OF 4 TO 1 WITH BUCKLEY CASTING THE DISSENTING VOTE TO ADOPT RESOLUTION NO. 2003-04 AND AUTHORIZE TRANSMITTAL OF RESOLUTION AND LETTERS OF SUPPORT TO ELECTED STATE REPRESENTATIVES AND LEAGUE OF CALIFORNIA CITIES REPRESENTATIVES. RESOLUTION NO. 2003-04 A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNGIL OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA, URGING THE CALIFORNIA LEGISLATURE TO REJECT THE GOVERNOR'S PROPOSED SHIFT OF LOCAL VLF REVENUES AND TO HONOR THE 1998 COMMITMENT TO RESTORE THE VLF. 32. Support CETAP Southern Corridor. (F:82.1) City Manager Watenpaugh noted discussions in the recent newspapers regarding a coalition in support of Cajalco route, as a portion of the Riverside County Integrated Plan for interior corridors. He explained that the Plan identified major transportation corridars to ensure a clear and effective system within the County. He indicated that staff was recommending consideration of the corridor using Highway 74 with an - - .'~ ! 4 ' 7 w3'~.,.,w R Ay Y i,~ 4a3 yt ?~.,... 9. :; ~ . . ._._. _.. . _ _ . 1`, `r ;' ," .. a : ~ ~; b '~' (~ , ~ _.3'~, • t' ~~ _ ~ . . `f,v" ` . " _ _ . ~ ~ . ~ I R; .., ~ .~ - :. . ~- ~ rraA ~.~rn~ ' r r it' : ~~ f ~: ~~ ~~~irne z~'~ ~~;~C',,,r~`~~` i~s~~r~ ~~~j~y ~`~ ~at ; c ~ ~"",~'~ ~~~;.~s `~,s} ~ 1"~ t'akt~v ~:~ PAGE ~I~H'F - CITY. ~OT.FI~TCIL~VIINi7TES -:TA1~UA~Y 2$,#200~ 1 ~~"' , _ , ,~ _ ~ . - x , -~ ~,; a~tert~te to El ~'oro Road and Niehols Road; He explained that a gr~up of citi~~'~o ~'he riorth was interesti~i~ in the Ca~~lco corridor whicli would come ,out ~ust nortl'i of Eagle C~lzn. ~I~` advised that`iri staff s qpiniori, Yne . improvement of Highway 74 would be more desirable as the habitat had been addressed and there were less impacts for the southern route. He noted that EPA had not bought off on the northern route, and reduced costs would be possible for the southern route. He further indicated that internallythe southern corridor would provide better east/west transportation for thenew residents; and requested Council consideration of a letter of support for the southern route. Mayor Pro Tem Schiffner noted that he recently attended a CETAP $earing at Eagle Glen; and indicated thaf the comments there were pretty evenly split on the two alignments and there was really no consensus of those present. He commented with regard to the City, the closest route would be of the most benefit in the long run. He indicated that one important factor was where the access road to Orange County would be placed. He suggested it might be good to put this off to see where the Orange County route would be. He expressed support for the southern route. Councilman Hickman noted the amount of growth in the area, and concurred with Mayor Pro Tem Schiffner that with this road should come the east/west tunnel to Orange County. He suggested that utilizing Nichols Road would eliminate some traffic on Collier. Councilwoman Kelley indicated that the southern route was definitely needed; and it would be less costly, close to the growth and the habitat issues would be easier to solve. Councilman Buckley indicated that without a question, the southern route would be better for Lake Elsinore and better in the long term for everyone. He noted that this route was originally recommended by Riverside County Transportation Commission, but after that other cities went into action to form for Cajalco corridor. He detailed the proposed northern route, vs. the PAGE NINE - CITY COUNCIL MINUTES - JANUARY 28, 2003 southern route on a map. He concurred that the chosen route would ultimately play a part in where the new road to Orange County was placed. He stressed the importance of that road for the City, but noted that nearly 70% of the new growth would be much better served by the southern route. He recommended that every resident watch the papers and attend CETAP meetings to support this route. He also suggested writing letters of support. Mayor Brinley concurred that this issue had been a long time in the planning and discussion phases, and agreed with the RCTC recommendation to use the Highway 74 conidor. She noted that she wasn't surprised by the alternate recommendation, but concurred with Councilman Buckley that residents should send letter to RCTC and voice their opinions. MOVED BY KELLEY, SECONDED BY SCHIFFNER AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE TO AUTHORIZE THE MAYOR TO SIGN THE PROPOSED LETTER OF SUPPORT FOR THE SOUTHERLY CETAP CORRIDOR, SC; AND DIRECTED STAFF TO CONTACT NEIGHBORING CITIES FOR SUPPORT. 33. Facility Use Fee. (F:64.1) City Manager Watenpaugh deferred to Recreation/Tourism Manager Fazzio for an overview of this item. Recreation/Tourism Manager Fazzio noted that all City facilities were available for rent to the public, and the last time fees were adopted was 1989. She indicated that based on an informal survey, the rental fees were o.k., but the cleaning fee and staff costs were not being covered. She noted that since 1989 there had been improvements to the Community Center, the Cultural Center and Senior Center. She further noted that the use had doubled atthe Community Center, and the majority of the events served alcohol. She explained the need to clean the facilities after weekend parties. She also explained that staff costs had increased because most of the staff was long term and were in the higher pay ranges. She noted that there PAGE TEN - CITY COUNCIL MINUTES - JANUARY 28, 2003 had been a 25% administrative fee at the Diamond Club and the Stadium, which had been added to the other facilities to make the fees consistent. City Manager Watenpaugh noted that this was part of the offset for staff time in Finance to handling billings. Recreation/Tourism Manager Fazzio detailed the current fees vs. the proposed fees, and clarified that they were actual costs. City Manager Watenpaugh noted that the cleaning deposit fees were only for larger group events. Councilman Hickman indicated this was fine, as long as it covered the costs. He expressed hopes that the increases would not interfere with rentals. Councilman Buckley inquired if the staff costs were because staff had to be there during the event. He noted that the rental fees were the same. Councilman Buckley indicated that direct fees were fine, as was the imposition of the administrative fee. Councilwoman Kelley questioned the Lake Community Center cleaning fee and refundable deposit. She inquired if a party could clean up and prevent staff having to do it. Recreation/Tourism Manager Fazzio indicated that was not possible because the floors would have to be professionally cleaned. City Manager Watenpaugh noted that in past years, people were allowed to clean up themselves, but generally with a large party they didn't clean up. Councilwoman Kelley clarified that there was no increase in the cost for field lights. She noted that the non-profit groups used the facilities, and they always had the right to request waivers. She stressed that this addressed larger rental parties for wedding receptions, etc. Mayor Pro Tem Schiffner inquired if the fee schedule was different for local residents vs. out-of-town residents. Recreation/Tourism Manager Fazzio indicated that there was no difference at this time. Mayor Pro Tem Schiffner indicated that it would be nice if these facilities could be provided as a service, but stressed that due to finances, it had to be on a user fee basis. PAGE ELEVEN - CITY COUNCIL MINUTES - JANUARY 28, 2003 City Manager Watenpaugh noted the difference was in ordinance for local non-profits. Mayor Brinley noted that the fees had not changed in thirteen years, and it was time to review the fees. She concurred that non-profits had been treated generously.with waivers. MOVED BY BUCKLEY, SECONDED BY HICKMAN AND FAILED TO CARRY BY A VOTE TO 2 TO 3 WITH BRINLEY, KELLEY AND SCHIFFNER CASTING THE DISSENTING VOTES TO ADOPT THE NEW FEES MINUS THE ADMINISTRATIVE FEE FOR LOCAL GROUPS. MOVED BY KELLEY, SECONDED BY SCHIFFNER TO ADOPT RESOLUTION NO. 2003-OS AS WRITTEN. Councilwoman Kelley indicated that she had no problem making the motion, because it addressed wedding receptions and parties. THE FOREGOING MOTION CARRIED BY A VOTE OF 3 TO 2 WITH BUCKLEY AND HICKMAN CASTING THE DISSENTING VOTES. RESOLUTION NO. 2003-05 A RESOLUTION OF THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CTTY OF LAKE ELSINORE, CALIFORNIA, AMENDING FACILITY USE FEES FOR THE USE OF ALL CITY RECREATION FACILITIES AND REPEALING RESOLUTION NO. 94-57. 34. Hotel Reimbursement Agreement. (F:68.1) City Manager Watenpaugh explained that this item was to determine if the Council was interested in pursuing negotiations for a flagship hotel. He noted that the lack of a flagship hotel was preventing special event people PAGE TWELVE - CITY COUNCIL MINUTES - JANUARY 28, 2003 from coming to the City. He further noted that the City currently had a 10% Transient Occupancy Tax, and all new hotels would be required to pay that tax; however this group was requesting a reimbursement agreement for public infrastructure and a portion of their TOT which they would generate for a period of time. He indicated that before staff worked to negotiate an agreement, direction was needed from Council if they were interested in that type of agreement. He commented that at this point he couldn't say who the hotelier was, but he was happy to take Council direction to move forward. He noted that staff felt this type of agreement was what subsidies were to be used for, as it would be beneficial for the City and the business community. Councilwoman Kelley indicated that she had no problem with the public infrastructure portion, as it has been done befare on other projects; however she did have a problem with giving a percentage of the TOT tax. She stressed that TOT was revenue for the City and that was not done for other hotels in the City. Councilman Hickman concurred with Councilwoman Kelley, in that he believed that it would be possible to help with infrastructure costs; but since there was no idea what the future held in the State budget, he was not in support of letting them have the TOT tax. Councilman Buckley addressed the $600,000 to $700,000, and questioned how the money would come back. City Manager Watenpaugh indicated that it could either be a reimbursement through the TOT tax or as a formula for reimbursement in which they would get a portion of the revenue they generated until it was paid back for infrastructure improvements. Councilman Buckley expressed concern with discussing this request a little in the dark, as the name of the company and proposed location were unknown. He questioned the amount of infrastructure improvements that would be required. City Manager Watenpaugh clarified that they would only be reimbursed for the infrastructure they put in, and for which they submit invoices. Councilman Buckley indicated that he was still nervous that they _ _ _; , PAGE THIRTEEN - CITY COUNCIL MINUTES - J~N CTARY 28, 2003 were willing to ask for public money and not disclose their identity. City Manager Watenpaugh indicated that when they were willing to discuss it, everything would come back to Council for approval. Mayar Brinley commented that they were in the exploratory phase. City Manager Watenpaugh noted a major development a few years ago that was sold as a wonderful project, before they owned the project and the cost of the land escalated, making the project impossible. He stressed that this group wanted to be sure they had closed on the project. Councilman Buckley reiterated that he was concerned that they were asking for money before they even owned the property. He commented that the City desperately needed hotel space, and he was not necessarily opposed to reimbursement for infrastructure from TOT, but beyond that he would not see use of TOT. He reiterated that he was uncomfortable even voting on this item if they had not even bought the property yet. Mayor Pro Tem Schiffner agreed that hotel space was sorely needed, as there were many worthwhile projects which could have happened, but didn't because people had no place to stay. He commented that the City was not being asked to commit anything, aside from allowing staff to negotiate to see if an agreement would be possible. He indicated that he didn't care if they had bought the property or where it was, but when someone came in willing to spend their money with the return for the cost of public improvements, it could only be a good deal. He indicated that he was emphatically in favor of moving this request forward; and expressed hopes that staff would work out something and bring back definite information. Mayor Brinley suggested that the requested arrangement would be similar to the Fard or Chevrolet dealerships. Mayor Pro Tem Schiffner concurred and noted that it was also like Walmart. Dan Uhlry, 103 W. Flint, indicated he understood what the Council was saying, but indicated he didn't want to see another Walmart, with taxes going on forever. He concurred that it was necessary to reimburse far the infrastructure, and noted the benefits of the Railroad Canyon improvements, PAGE FOURTEEN - CITY COUNCIL MINUTES - JANUARY 28, 2003 provided by Pardee Construction. He indicated for Councilman Buckley that everyone checks the situation before they get involved; and concurred that it could impact property costs. He noted that the Council was on the right track, but should not give TOT after the infrastructure was paid for. Mayor Brinley concurred with Council, but stressed that this was an exploratory effort. She suggested letting staff go out and negotiate. She noted that there had been the suggestion that two Councilmembers participate on a committee to work with staf£ City Manager Watenpaugh explained that there was the possibilify of appointing two Councilmembers to participate in negotiations; however the Council had been quite clear on their direction. Mayor Brinley inquired if the Council would like a committee or if staff should be allowed to proceed. Mayor Pro Tem Schiffner suggested that two Councilmembers attend the negotiations and maintain silence on the issues. Council concurred. Mayor Brinley indicated that it was the Council's job to attract businesses and provide things desired by the community for tourism, such as hotels. She noted that it was sad to see them staying elsewhere. She suggested that the Mayor be allowed to have two Councilmembers sit in on negotiations. Mayor Pro Tem Schiffner concurred with the recommendation for two Councilmembers to sit in on negotiations. Councilwoman Kelley inquired if the direction would be to take the TOT off the table. City Manager Watenpaugh clarified that it would be limited to infrastructure reimbursements. Mayor Pro Tem Schiffner requested clarification of the appropriate motion. City Manager Watenpaugh clarified further that the recommendation should be to support reimbursement from TOT to the limit of the public infrastructure, but no additional percentage of TOT beyond that time. City Attorney Leibold indicated that generally the performance of the project was a measure of revenues by which they were reimbursed. PAGE FIFTEEN - CITY COUNCIL MINUTES - JANUARY 28, 2003 MOVED BY SCHIFFNER, SECONDED BY KELLEY AND CARRIED BY A VOTE OF 4 TO 0 WITH BUCKLEY ABSTAINING FROM VOTE TO DIRECT STAFF TO CONTINUE TO NEGOTIATE WITH THE DEVELOPER TOWARDS AN AGREEMENT TO BE RETURNED FOR COUNCIL CONSIDERATION WITH THE POSSIBILITY OF REIMBURSEMENT OF PUBLIC IMPROVEMENTS FROM THE TRANSIENT OCCUPANCY TAX, BUT NO FURTHER CONSIDERATION OF FUTURE TOT TAXES. City Manager Watenpaugh questioned the appointment of the Councilmembers to participate in negotiations. Mayor Brinley appointed Mayor Pro Tem Schiffner and herself to participate. 35. City Council Committee Appointments. (F:44.1)(X:59.1) Mayor Brinley noted that every year the Councilmembers serve on a variety of committees, and noted that there would be a few minor changes in those appointments this year. She recommended the following appointments: Committee Appointee Alternate California JPIA Kelley Brinley Habitat Conservation Agency Schiffner Buckley Chamber of Commerce Hickman Kelley RTA Brinley Kelley RCTC Schiffner Buckley WRCOG Buckley Kelley LESJWA Schiffner Brinley Crime Free Housing Brinley Hickman Eliminate Task Force 2002 EVAN Kelley Hickman PAGE SIXTEEN - CITY COUNCIL MINUTES - JANUARY 28, 2003 Mayor Brinley questioned if the I-15 IRP would be part of the RCTC. City Manager Watenpaugh indicated he did not believe so, but suggested that those organizations mentioned during Agenda Review should be verified with the organizations to formally establish relationships. There was general discussion of other committees and staff indicated they would verify where formal relationships were desired. MOVED BY SCHIFFNER, SECONDED BY BUCKLEY AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE TO APPROVE THE APPOINTMENTS AS RECOMMENDED. 36. Country Club Heights Studv Area.(F:60.1) City Manager Watenpaugh explained that the City Council had previously agreed to fund and look at an overlay district for Country Club Heights and noted the original boundaries. He further explained that after the Consultant got started an interest arose in seeing that area expanded from Riverside to Dryden and Gunnerson to Lakeshore. He indicated that the cost for the additional area was almost identical to the first, so it would double the cost. He inquired if the Council wanted to authorize the additional money to proceed. Michael Lewis, 29431 Kalina, resident of Country Club Heights area, and noted that most of the prior surveys were taken in the 20's and 40's. He stressed the smaller streets in the area and noted the size of lots along the dirt roads. He questioned who would pay for this study, and suggested it would be money better spent to survey the area first. Dan Uhlry, 103 W. Flint, noted that a lot of the problems were inherently the same due to similar topography and old road. He stressed that in some areas 60 foot wide streets were not possible. He indicated that it made sense to do the whole area in one study and prevent future costs for studies. _ _ . _ _ _._:.f i _ ~ PAGE SEVENTEEN - CTTY COUNCIL MINUTES - JANUARY 28, 2003 Ij Ron La Pere, 16867 Wells, strongly requested that the Council consider making this study a complete study. He indicated that he spoke with some constituents today about the issue and they questioned why the whole area was not being included. He commented that while it might seem like a lot of money, in the long run, fees and costs go up all the time and consideration should be giving to doing it now. John Pitt, 17561 Sunnyslope Drive, indicated that he was an 18 year resident, and suggested that it was very important to include the whole area in the study. He indicated that guidance was needed in the area because of the narrow roads and hillside development. He stressed that this guidance was needed for people to build and develop in the area. He indicated that the full area made the most sense, and thanked the Council for their consideration. Councilman Hickman requested an explanation of this overlay. City Manager Watenpaugh noted Mr. Pitt's comments when Council met with residents and the concerns for a 60 foot road. He explained that the Council agreed to put a 25 foot strip of asphalt and indicated that different standards were needed from those in the general plan. He further explained that consideration was needed for narrower streets, one-way streets, septic tank systems, etc. He concurred that there were similar issues in the two areas, but a specific plan was needed with standards and land uses that would allow the residents to consolidate lots affordably. Councilman Hickman clarified that the study would run from Chaney Street, all the way out to Dryden, with deviations from the existing flat land building requirements. He concurred that the whole area should be done now. Ron LePere indicated that the study should seriously consider one-way streets, east of Riverside Drive, as a means of preventing safety concerns and collision potential, particularly in areas with deep slopes. Councilwoman Kelley noted that this proposal originally came for one area PAGE EIGHTEEN - CITY COUNCIL MINUTES - JANUARY 28, 2003 of Country Club Heights, but Council felt that the entire area should be done at the same time. She addressed Mr. Lewis and indicated that the Council was looking to spend the money to do the entire area as both portions should be done at the same study. She detailed the areas it would address including infrashucture, flood plains, seismic, fire service, etc. She reiterated that the City would pick up the tab far the study, which would include a public meeting with the residents and a joint study session with the Planning Commission. She indicated that she strongly supported this study to address the many unique problems due to the terrain. Mayor Pro Tem Schiffner indicated that this consideration was only to authorize additional funds to expand the area of the study. He commented that he definitely felt it was impossible to develop under the present standards, and stressed the need to see what fit and what didn't fit with the present zoning and standards. He concurred that there were similar problems on both sides of Riverside Drive. He indicated that he was in favor of spending the extra money to include the entire area, and concurred that one- way streets may be the only solution in some cases. He indicated that for this amount of money it would be beneficial if it made any of the land more developable. He suggested that the area could be the Palos Verdes of the area. Councilman Buckley addressed Mr. Lewis question about the map. Mr. Lewis requested clarification of the area covered by the study. Mr. Buckley clarified the map and noted the very small lots and their location, and detailed the balance of the area to be addressed. Mayor Brinley indicated that would be clearer, once the study was underway, but the intent was to include all of Country Club Heights. There was general discussion of the map and the boundaries of the area. Councilman Buckley noted that the point of the overlay district was to make it easier for people to build custom and semi-custom homes and preserve the existing appeal of Country Club Heights. He concurred that smaller streets made a lot of sense. He indicated that surveying and data collection would be done to look at the lots and _ _. _ __ _ : PAGE NINETEEN - CITY COUNCIL MINUTES - JANUARY 28, 2003 figure out a way to align them. He noted that the process would include a lot of public input and assistance in putting lots together, improved design standards and possibly a viewshed ordinance. He concurred that Palos Verdes was a good example and would make the area a wonderful addition to the City. Mayor Brinley indicated that this study was something that had been needed for a long time and stressed the difficulties with infrastructure, lot mergers, septic, sewers, etc. She detailed the scope of the study and suggested that this was the first Council willing to take this project on and use the dollars to properly plan the area. MOVED BY BUCKLEY, SECONDED BY KELLEY AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE TO AUTHORIZE THE EXPANDED PROJECT AREA AND ALLOCATE THE ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR A TOTAL OF $49,813. Mayor Pro Tem Schiffner suggested that staff investigate the property to the north of Gunnerson and look at the costs to include that area. ITEMS PULLED FROM THE CONSENT CALENDAR Resolution Regarding Lake Elsinore Comprehensive Water Management Agreement. (F:92.1)(X:68.1)(X:134.7) Councilwoman Kelley indicated that she had pulled this item to publicly state that this action would wrap up the agreement with EVMWD. She noted that the Council promised the property owners at the last meeting that they would support their riparian rights as landowners. She indicated that Mr. Dawson had requested some verbiage changes on page 2 of 5, Section 1. to read "......the rights riparian land owners may have.........." Pete Dawson, 18010 Grand Avenue, representing Southshore Homeowners PAGE TWENTY - CITY COUNCIL MINUTES - JANUARY 28, 2003 Association, indicated that they remained very concerned, but appreciated the protection of rights of the riparian property owners. He indicated this resolution would help them and make their residents feel solid about it. He noted that they had been fighting this issue since 1988 when the Lake was still owned by the State. He stressed that the issue of private property owners' access to the Lake had constantly been of concern. He expressed hopes that this was the permanent solution. Mayor Brinley indicated that she was glad to be accommodating, and expressed hopes that the City would now be successfizl in their efforts to seek water for the Lake and get extra funding to assist in that endeavor. Mayor Pro Tem Schiffner commented on his opinion that this was not giving anything away or taking anything away; as he always felt there was no authority over that land. He indicated that he was glad that this action would give the residents a good feeling. MOVED BY KELLEY, SECONDED BY BUCKLEY AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE TO ADOPT RESOLUTION NO. 2003-03 WITH THE VERBIAGE CHANGES AS PROPOSED. RESOLUTION NO. 2003-03 A RESOLUTION OF THE CTTY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE CONFIRMING THAT THE CITY COUNCIL'S APPROVAL OF THE LAKE ELSINORE COMPREHENSIVE WATER MANAGEMENT AGREEMENT BY AND AMONG THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE, THE REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY OF THE CITY OF LAKE ELSINORE AND THE ELSINORE VALI.EY MiJNICIPAL WATER DISTRICT WAS NOT INTENDED TO AFFECT ANY EXISTING RIGHTS OF RIPARIAN LANDOWNERS. PAGE TWENTY-ONE - CITY COUNCIL MINUTES - JANUARY 28, 2003 PUBLIC COMMENTS - NON-AGENDIZED ITEMS Lorrie Brevaleri, no address, commented on a new group for wanderers and homeless people, which was intended as a resource program to help people help themselves. She indicated that they had come up with some simple housing solutions that would make life affordable for them. She thanked Wendy Colk from Supervisor Buster's office and the Police Officers for checking on them. She indicated that she was still "squatting" in front of the Police Department. Bob Magee, 32400 Beechwood Lane, indicated that his neighborhood was adjacent to Eastlake Specific Plan area. He commended the superior work of law enforcement, and noted that Officer poug Monte had completed his term in the area. He detailed the gang-related problems they had encountered in his neighborhood and the related arrests. He stressed that while much had been accomplished, there were still significant problems, and expressed hopes that next year's budget would shift more money to local law enforcement. Lori Holland, 32086 Beecher Street, Wildomar, representing the Tahiti-California Cultural Program. She indicated that she has lived here over 30 years, and been involved with this program for 7-8 years. She indicated that she had been to Tahiti four times and was ashamed and embarrassed by the Lake Elsinore citizens in the newspaper and on the Internet. She indicated that the people were not barbaric, but rather a loving and giving society. She stressed that the attitudes expressed in the newspaper were embarrassing and those people were talking about people they had no knowledge of. Bill Tucker, 740 Acacia, indicated that he had hoped to come to the Council with good news, and while he could say there would be an RV/Boat show at the Recreation Area, they would not be doing the kids fishing derby. He indicated that he had been talking with fish and game, but the bureaucracy would probably prevent the kids fishing derby. Chris Hyland, 15191 Wavecrest, noted that she was a Member of the Jarvis PAGE TWENTY-TWO - CITY COUNCIL MINUTES - JANUARY 28, 2003 Taxpayers Association, and indicated that she was concerned with how money was spent. She addressed an article regarding the Skateboard Park, and indicated that the operators did not put one penny into the project they were rumiing; and they had an extended time before they had to pay their 7% interest. She questioned when the City Council voted on extending their time, and expressed concern with the use of taxpayers' money. CITY MANAGER COMMENTS City Manager Watenpaugh commented on the following: 1) Thanked Lori Holland for attending regarding Tahiti, and noted that staff had met with the students for the last two years. He noted the increasing interest in international trade and sister cities programs in cultural exchange and economic development. He stressed that there was no discussion of spending City dollars to go to Tahiti, and if Council wished to go, it would be a surprise to staf£ He further stressed that this was an opportunity for them to learn about the area, learn the language and shop the outlet center. He commented that this was generally a very positive program and thanked Ms. Hollard for her efforts. 2) Thanked Bob Magee for his comments about the Police Department. He indicated that there was an interest in supporting them in a bigger way financially, but that would depend on the budget. 3) Indicated to Bill Tucker that he was sorry that Fish and Game was not cooperating with the fish. He noted that some of this was due to difficulties caused by law water levels. 4) Indicated to Mrs. Hyland that the skatepark matter would be on the agenda for February 11`h. He clarified that the concessionaire had provided all of the equipment, but the City paid for the facility. He PAGE TWENTY-THREE-CITY COUNCIL MINUTES JANUARY 28, 2003 noted that there were alternatives if the park did not operate as anticipated. He also clarified that if the City had received $1.2 million from the State, a swimming pool would have been contemplated; but expressed concern with the annual cost to maintain a pool. 5) Announced the Special Council Meeting for this Thursday, when Mr. Hayhurst would be presenting the Process Audit and Classification Study for input and direction on the salary survey. He indicated that it would be at 130, at the Cultural Center. 6) Addressed the Wildomar Sphere of Influence and the related discussions with the City of Murrieta. He indicated that the City's intent in saying it had concerns, was not looking at taking away the independence of the Wildomar residents, or looking to annex them. He explained that the interest was in preserving the buffer area to benefit from the off-ramps which feed the western portion of Wildomar. He indicated that staff would be meeting with both sides and the City of Murrieta over the next couple of weeks. CITY ATTORNEY COMMENTS No Comments. COMMITTEE REPORTS No Reports. CITY COUNCIL COMMENTS Mayor Pro Tem Schiffner commented on the following: 1) Addressed the exchange program with young people from Tahiti, and PAGE TWENTY-FOUR-CITY COUNCIL MINUTES-JANUARY 28, 2003 indicated that it might be good to absorb some culture from the students. Councilman Hickman commented on the following: 1) Announced that the Lake Elsinore Historical Downtown Group will hold its general meeting on February 12~' at 530 p.m. He noted that the group spends about $35,000 annually to advertise events and the City. He indicated that they wanted public input and encouraged attendance. He noted the new Board with Gene Barber as president. 2) Indicated that he worked with the Veterans of Foreign Wars on Friday Night, as they had sponsored an essay contest. He advised that the winners were all from Elsinore High School. He requested recognition of the winners, including Holly Fraser, Eric Lee and Katherine McKensie and suggested that the Council hear the first place winner. He noted that they also had an eighth grade winner, Tracy Blanchard. 3) Concurred that the Council was not looking to annex Wildomar, as they should determine their own future. 4) Commented on insurance and encouraged participation in AARP. 5) Indicated that if there was rain, Elsinore Valley Rentals would provide sand and sand bags. 6) Indicated that Elsinare Ready Mix was now looking for payment on the fire station. He noted that they finally got paid for the skatepark on January 13~', but now they would have to go to the bond company for the fire station. 7) Noted that the next RDA meeting would include nomination of people PAGE TWENTY-FIVE-CITY COUNCIL MINUTES-JANUARY 28, 2003 for the Task Force. He indicated that there were a lot of good people, so it would be a difficult decision. He stressed that there were old buildings which would be excellent for rehabilitation to provide lower rents and distinguish the City from other areas. Councilwoman Kelley had no comments. Councilman Buckley commented on the following: 1) Reiterated that the City had no interest in annexing Wildomar, but simply supporting their right to self-determination. 2) Addressed the skatepark, and indicated that he wanted it to succeed and he wanted to know how a staff inember could waive the money due the City. He indicated that he was looking forward to a report at the neat City Council meeting. He stressed that he would like the staff member questioned on how it was not paid. 3) Noted that he voted in favor of the Sister City Relationship, but suggested that the reason it was raising eyebrows was the exotic nature of Tahiti. He noted the public impression that there was a possibility of people going to Tahiti on government money. He suggested that this was a standard reaction when people heard government and tropical paradise together. 4) Praised Officer Monte and thanked Bob Magee for attending the meeting. Mayor Brinley commented on the following: 1) Addressed Tahiti and indicated that she found it quite an honor that they requested a Sister City relationship. She stressed that this was a cultural exchange and a form of goodwill, and they were wanting to be PAGE TWENTY-SIX - CITY COUNCIL MINUTES - JANUARY 28, 2003 friends of the City and exchange ideas. She noted that other cities had Sister Cities, and she was sorry that the program encountered such a reaction. She indicated that the Council was aware of its fiscal responsibilities, but were willing to accept the hand of good will. She stressed that the City was honored, pleased and proud to be asked to be a sister city. 2) Indicated that the Country Club Heights study would be a good experience for everyone, as the new plan will have full input from both sides. 3) Announced the following upcoming events: February 2°d - Open Air Market, Downtown February 8~" at 6 p.m. - Chamber Installation Dinner at the Diamond Club. February 7-9 - RVBoat Festival at the Lake Elsinore Recreation Area. February 3`a _ ls` Assembly of God Groundbreaking for their new Church. ADJOURNMENT MOVED BY BUCKLEY, SECONDED BY KELLEY, AND CARRIED BY UNANIMOUS VOTE TO ADJ~RN THE REGULAR CITY COUNCIL MEETING AT 9:10 P.M. / \ ~ AT ST: P~AIGIELA CITY OF ~ ~~~ CKI KASAD, CMC, CITY CLERK/ HUMAN RESOURCES DIRECTOR